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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 12-05-2020 [Hosted By: Moviegique]
Freaky (2020)
Pickings, as noted, have been slim, though they were much fatter a few weeks ago before The Tyrant Newsom capriciously shut everything down again, and we had a chance to trek out and see a double-feature. The first feature was John Wick which the kids actually hadn't seen (I couldn't get them to go with me the first time). There was an interesting movie from the people who did Secret of the Kells and Song of the Sea, but with 6 of 30 seats already taken, the three of us couldn't get tickets because that would exceed 25% capacity. But The Flower (and to a lesser extent The Boy) was semi-intrigued by this horror remake of Freaky Friday. As she said, "It's not like it's a classic that they're screwing up, Dad." It's a fair point: Her version of the movie is the cute-but-not-classic Jamie Lee Curtis/Lindsay Lohan, whereas mine is the also cute-but-not-classic Barbara Harris/Jodie Foster version. The premise, if you don't know, is that a mother and daughter, frustrated with their impressions of how easy the other's life is, end up swapping places. Body swapping in the movies goes back at least to the Thorne Smith story Turnabout (which Hal Roach made into a cute movie with Adolphe Menjou and Carole Landis), where it's a frustrated husband/wife swap.
Carole Landis manspreads in "Turnabout".
But in this case, instead of swapping with her mother, our teen heroine Millie (Kathryn Newton, Three Billboards Outside of Billings, Montana and Lady Bird) swaps with the crazed slasher who is trying to kill her, thanks to his recent acquisition of a Zuni doll or a totem or whatever. Where the usual playbook is for the swapped characters to struggle comically being a fish-out-of-water in their unfamiliar surroundings, in this case—well, it's exactly the same here, just one's a psycho.
Now, really, this is pretty much an actor's storyline. It had a lot more "bite" back in 1940, but seeing Adolphe Menjou flounce around while Carole Landis "manspread" in Turnabout is that movie's primary entertainment value. I don't remember the '70s version well enough to say much about the acting, but I remember being disappointed by the '00s version, because Jamie Lee Curtis' has so many easily imitable mannerisms, and the "swap" doesn't change either hers or Lohan's at all. (Annette Benning dropped out of the role just six days earlier, which may account for this.)
This "Freaky" is about a psycho whereas most are about teen girls and stressed moms and I probably better stop right there.
Vaughn, 50, is still pretty convincing as a maniac.
TFW you convince your friends you're not a slasher on a spree.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2020 07:45 PM (Rvt88)
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Posted by: Red, Lady, Cluck Cluck ... at December 05, 2020 07:47 PM (LPnfS)
Posted by: attila the irritable at December 05, 2020 07:47 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 07:47 PM (ztzef)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2020 07:48 PM (Rvt88)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 05, 2020 07:48 PM (iTXRQ)
I'd find that very interesting.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 05, 2020 07:48 PM (lgiXo)
Disney will likely be providing the second tap this week in order to counter WB moving all their stuff to HBO Max, and Disney will likely launch Disney+ 18 to counter that, but also finish theaters as a mainstream thing.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 07:49 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 07:49 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 05, 2020 07:49 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 05, 2020 07:49 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Zeera I should be writing right now at December 05, 2020 07:49 PM (zUdXR)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2020 07:49 PM (9sWOw)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at December 05, 2020 07:50 PM (OssQ4)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2020 07:50 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Zeera I should be writing right now at December 05, 2020 07:50 PM (zUdXR)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 07:50 PM (zr5Kq)
I was surprised that the movie captured the essence of Robert Parker's Jesse Stone series.
Posted by: Ladyl at December 05, 2020 07:50 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at December 05, 2020 07:51 PM (icI8A)
autistic forensic investigator chasing
serial killer
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 07:51 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: browndog at December 05, 2020 07:52 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2020 07:52 PM (l9m7l)
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 07:52 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at December 05, 2020 07:53 PM (icI8A)
Posted by: WOPR at December 05, 2020 07:53 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 07:53 PM (Dc2NZ)
fun
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 07:53 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2020 07:53 PM (l9m7l)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2020 07:50 PM (axyOa)
They all detoured to Pron Hub?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2020 07:53 PM (d9rwJ)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2020 07:55 PM (9sWOw)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 05, 2020 07:55 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 07:55 PM (Dc2NZ)
Anita Ekberg's part in that movie ends relatively early, but she does make an impression.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at December 05, 2020 07:55 PM (2RBkF)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 05, 2020 07:56 PM (lgiXo)
Posted by: Zeera I should be writing right now at December 05, 2020 07:49 PM (zUdXR)
It is really not. FvF was all about passion, AA is all about suppressing passion to a Leonard Nimoy as Spock level, but also dousing any charisma.
Not a fan.
Feels like it would have been really good as a book to explore the inner dynamics better. All the film has going for it are the top notch effects/scenery.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 07:56 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 07:56 PM (
Interstellar was better. So was Cloud Atlas.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at December 05, 2020 07:58 PM (OssQ4)
It was horrible.
And there was no need for it to be science-fiction. It could have been about a guy sailing around the Pacific looking for his father, telling the same essential story.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 05, 2020 07:58 PM (7DzWP)
Turns out his fathers a homicidal cyborg.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 07:58 PM (ztzef)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2020 07:58 PM (9sWOw)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 07:58 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 08:00 PM (nUhF0)
C'mon, man.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at December 05, 2020 08:00 PM (OssQ4)
And there was no need for it to be science-fiction. It could have
been about a guy sailing around the Pacific looking for his father,
telling the same essential story.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 05, 2020 07:58 PM (7DzWP)
Moon pirates, space monkeys, and horrible science made it brutal. Most sci-fi stories don't need to be sci-fi stories.
I don't know how historically accurate it was, but Ford vs. Ferrari was good.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:00 PM (J70i0)
One of Celentano's daughters, Rosalinda, played Satan in Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma, Queen of Sheba Elect or Cleopatra Elect, depends which way the wind blows at December 05, 2020 08:00 PM (8/7u2)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2020 07:52 PM (l9m7l)
One of the trade papers online said WB is likely scrambling to try to appease the big actors in the 17 direct to Max (with a side of theater, but come on, really) who have box office results linked to their contract.
So Whoreywood accounting may have to work in some actors favor for a change to keep them from going to work for the competition (which at this point is mostly The Mouse really). Needless to say, I am hoping for both actual blood and lots and lots of red ink to be spilled.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:00 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: klaftern at December 05, 2020 08:00 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Zeera I should be writing right now at December 05, 2020 08:01 PM (zUdXR)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 05, 2020 08:01 PM (H5knJ)
One episode had the trio of vampires on trial by the Vampire Tribunal, which featured Tilda Swinton, Paul Ruben, Wesley Snipes, and other actors famous for playing vampires. Unfortunately, "Tom and Brad weren't available".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 08:01 PM (Dc2NZ)
I ordered 3 different versions of the Baron Munchausen genre, and have only ever seen the Terry Gilliam version. Which was fun enough.
There's a silent version, I think. I'll have to figure out how to find it. I'm interested in how, over the years, the technology changes create opportunity to show the more fantastic elements. And of course, newer isn't always better, as practical effects are sometimes MUCH better than CGI, no matter how "good" the CGI is.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:01 PM (hku12)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 05, 2020 08:01 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: SFGoth at December 05, 2020 08:01 PM (KAi1n)
Mary Anne / Ginger protocol engaged...
MM here!
Posted by: browndog at December 05, 2020 08:03 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker
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Bollywood?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2020 08:03 PM (AytXr)
actors favor for a change to keep them from going to work for the
competition (which at this point is mostly The Mouse really). Needless
to say, I am hoping for both actual blood and lots and lots of red ink
to be spilled.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:00 PM (Ojki1)
Streaming may bring back the studio system. That's the only way to make it work. You have the actors under contract, standard sets, etc. The model of an actor being a draw has been generally dead for a couple of decades.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:03 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:04 PM (ztzef)
I was surprised that the movie captured the essence of Robert Parker's Jesse Stone series.
Posted by: Ladyl at December 05, 2020 07:50 PM (TdMsT)
I have only seen the adaptations, but your comment inspires me to buy the books. The last time that happened was with Colin Dexter/Inspector Morse, and although the books and the adaptations were different, they were similar enough that I enjoyed both. I have enjoyed all of the Jesse Stone "movies" (really, movies made for TV). Sort of doubt they will make another (Tom Selleck appears to be focused on the increasingly tired and preachy Blue Bloods instead), but there's always hope.
Posted by: HTL at December 05, 2020 08:04 PM (2gvcB)
Turns out his fathers a homicidal cyborg.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 07:58 PM (ztzef)
It is even darker when you realize the biggest punch to this was that Luke's mentor, the man who gave Luke purpose in his life after his Uncle and Aunt were killed and trained him in the cult of Jedi flat out lied to Luke about this.
Suddenly the Luke in The Last Jedi makes a lot of sense.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:04 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Infidel at December 05, 2020 08:04 PM (QoPXA)
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2020 08:05 PM (l3+k2)
And there was no need for it to be science-fiction. It could have
been about a guy sailing around the Pacific looking for his father,
telling the same essential story.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 05, 2020 07:58 PM (7DzWP)
Moon pirates, space monkeys, and horrible science made it brutal. Most sci-fi stories don't need to be sci-fi stories.
I don't know how historically accurate it was, but Ford vs. Ferrari was good.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:00 PM (J70i0)
Classic Sci Fi had two basic themes.
1. How will Technology change Society.
2. Will technology change Man (and are those positive or negative changes).
So, yes, you see a Space Cowboy out there... because its just new technology, Man didn't change.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2020 08:06 PM (d9rwJ)
practical effects are sometimes MUCH better than CGI, no matter how
"good" the CGI is.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:01 PM (hku12)
CGI has a place. But, you can't beat practical effects. Even with a model, you know it is real. A bus blows up in a pre-2000's movie, you know it blew up. Now the bus blows up and in a manner that you know isn't possible.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:07 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: Infidel
Hey!!
Posted by: Michelle Fields at December 05, 2020 08:07 PM (Rvt88)
Thinking of starting watching my Hitchcock flicks tonight, starting with The Lady Vanishes.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:07 PM (L2ZTs)
It took 30 years to try to find a way to make that film not a dismal shadow of the previous two. I wonder if they pulled it off, though I have my doubts.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:07 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: havelhavolim at December 05, 2020 08:08 PM (fLpTX)
Posted by: SFGoth
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My sole recollection of Mad was the 'Rockhead' issue, and the character 'Appalling Greed'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2020 08:08 PM (pbStR)
It took 30 years to try to find a way to make that film not a dismal shadow of the previous two. I wonder if they pulled it off, though I have my doubts.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:07 PM (Ojki1)
Saw this movie on the big screen as kid. Did not understand a single thing.
Posted by: havelhavolim at December 05, 2020 08:09 PM (fLpTX)
It's on my Christmas list.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:09 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: havelhavolim at December 05, 2020 08:08 PM (fLpTX)
Soon to be a "New to Streaming" thread.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:09 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:07 PM (L2ZTs)
I know that one ! It's good. British actors I think.
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:09 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2020 07:50 PM (axyOa)
They all detoured to Pron Hub?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2020 07:53 PM (d9rwJ)
Detoured?
Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2020 08:09 PM (nakwk)
Suddenly the Luke in The Last Jedi makes a lot of sense.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:04 PM (Ojki1)
Which almost makes it tragic that Roundhead Rian Johnson took that story, and turned Luke into a cartoon buffoon.
He was there on that island precisely because he was damaged by that whole experience. Not the loss of his hand, but by the loss of this idea that there are people you can trust completely.
It was momentarily explored, and I have to think Lucasfilm gave Johnson the outline, said THIS is where Luke is at this point, but Johnson couldn't resist destroying Luke as a character.
Jerk.
If movies survive, somebody in the very near future has to redo these sequels. All three of them.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:10 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2020 07:58 PM (9sWO
According to Warner Bros this week, that would be never.
Posted by: havelhavolim at December 05, 2020 08:10 PM (fLpTX)
Posted by: Miklosian Holistic Calmings at December 05, 2020 08:10 PM (QzkSJ)
Yeah, the last round of movies need to go the way of 'Highlander 2'.
ie, never to be seen or spoken of in polite company.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2020 08:10 PM (d9rwJ)
Am right now packing up the copy they sent me of Body Heat. At least returns are easy (thank God for Kohls.)
Posted by: qdpsteve (not a paid endorser or being bribed by Jeff Bezos, honest!) at December 05, 2020 08:11 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 05, 2020 08:11 PM (3H9h1)
I have only seen the adaptations, but your comment inspires me to buy the books. The last time that happened was with Colin Dexter/Inspector Morse, and although the books and the adaptations were different, they were similar enough that I enjoyed both. I have enjoyed all of the Jesse Stone "movies" (really, movies made for TV). Sort of doubt they will make another (Tom Selleck appears to be focused on the increasingly tired and preachy Blue Bloods instead), but there's always hope.
Posted by: HTL at December 05, 2020 08:04 PM (2gvcB)
Robert Parker began writing in the 1960s, I believe, so it's important to understand his writing and story lines in the context of the decade.
He was an excellent writer. He truly had the gift of words.
Posted by: Ladyl at December 05, 2020 08:11 PM (TdMsT)
It's on my Christmas list.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:09 PM (L2ZTs)
Or 3 days.
I believe I saw Dec 8th as the date.
I may someday see it, but I still haven't watched the Godfather 3 disc I got in the Godfather trilogy Bluray set I got years ago. I just was bored to tears by it when I watched it...20ish years ago? and haven't felt the desire to revisit it.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:12 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Miklos thinks Godzilla is required right about now at December 05, 2020 08:12 PM (QzkSJ)
Trump-the Valdosta Fightback
Posted by: Miklosian Holistic Calmings at December 05, 2020 08:10 PM (QzkSJ)
Two thumbs up!
Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 05, 2020 08:12 PM (5FCda)
It's a wasteland out there.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 05, 2020 08:11 PM (3H9h1)
2000 channels and there's nothing on.
Posted by: DR.WTF at December 05, 2020 08:12 PM (AiZBA)
Their search feature is crap, though, so I end up just scrolling through the categories like Westerns.
Found some of the James Stuart westerns like Bend of the River, Man from Laramie, and The Naked Spur ( mediocre ) .
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 05, 2020 08:12 PM (VsHYs)
From what I'm hearing it's not bad, and Ron Howard actually fleshed out the characters, rather than treat them as PDT-supporting stick figures.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:12 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2020 07:58 PM (9sWO
According to Warner Bros this week, that would be never.
Posted by: havelhavolim at December 05, 2020 08:10 PM (fLpTX)
Wow... did you see the video in the sidebar of the Restaurant owner?
Yeah... I'd be really pissed off too.
F'n Politicians and Hollywood.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2020 08:13 PM (d9rwJ)
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 05, 2020 08:13 PM (3H9h1)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:13 PM (gtJ22)
Yeah, the last round of movies need to go the way of 'Highlander 2'.
ie, never to be seen or spoken of in polite company.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2020 08:10 PM (d9rwJ)
Looks at the disc literally sitting in the PS3 in the bedroom.
Hides PS3 under a blanket.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:13 PM (Ojki1)
Which reminds me that I need to watch it soon. Always fun to see Gwyneth Paltrow die. ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:13 PM (L2ZTs)
practical effects are sometimes MUCH better than CGI, no matter how
"good" the CGI is.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:01 PM (hku12)
CGI has a place. But, you can't beat practical effects. Even with a model, you know it is real. A bus blows up in a pre-2000's movie, you know it blew up. Now the bus blows up and in a manner that you know isn't possible.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:07 PM (J70i0)
I'm even a fan of miniatures. And matte paintings.
These days you can see them clearly in most situations, and a part of me really appreciates how they incorporate both into a larger set, cutting back and forth between the miniatures and the live action. If it's well done, it's nice having the eyes noticing the effects, much better than "seamless" CGI.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:14 PM (hku12)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:14 PM (L2ZTs)
He turned out better than average. Today is his 30th bday.
Posted by: Beatgirl at December 05, 2020 08:15 PM (a1s18)
Yeah, the last round of movies need to go the way of 'Highlander 2'.
ie, never to be seen or spoken of in polite company.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2020 08:10 PM (d9rwJ)
I don't know from Highlander, but the Star Wars sequels, it's probably going to have to wait until Dinsey sells off the property.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:16 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 08:16 PM (dKiJG)
Was looking at the final scene (spoiler alerts!)...
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.
.
... when John Cusack is visiting Ione Skye's dad in jail, to (among other things) tell him he's going to Europe with his daughter, and said dad throws a tantrum.
John is awful calm during the scene. I wonder if it would or could have been made better, if his character threw a tantrum back at Dad, saying in effect "I'm the man your daughter loves. You need to get used to it."
Instead, he just says "I'm the distraction that's going to Europe with her, sir."
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:16 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:13 PM (gtJ22)
Never liked The Maltese Falcon.
Then again, I don't like Noir either.
Posted by: browndog at December 05, 2020 08:17 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 05, 2020 08:17 PM (iTXRQ)
Johnson and Abrams as well deserve to get their asses kicked for squandering a once in a lifetime opportunity to reunite the original trio and send them off heroically.
They could have used them to set up a new generation of interesting and compelling hero's, instead they killed them all off unceremoniously and unheroiclly.
Both those dudes need a well deserved beat down.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:17 PM (ztzef)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:14 PM (L2ZTs)
Without a doubt. Whoreywood made the Mr Rogers film (sort of) A Beautiful Day (It is alright, Tom Hanks was a bad choice for lead as he is too well known, but on the other hand without him the film is likely never made) and also a documentary that I think set new highs for docs.
Plus, big lib from what I read so they love to lionize their own.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:17 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:17 PM (gtJ22)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:14 PM (L2ZTs)
I sure hope not. I don't want to find out what Trebek's kink was.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:18 PM (hku12)
Trump-the Valdosta Fightback
Posted by: Miklosian Holistic Calmings
#1 Blockbuster
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 08:18 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:10 PM (hku12)
The only thing they can do is pretend they were never made. They are an nonredeemable disaster. The only thing enjoyable about them is watching Roundhead destroy everything from the first sequel, and JarJar Abrams attempt to roll everything back in three. Jar Jar is the Destroyer of Franchises. His Star Trek films failed the more he made.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:18 PM (J70i0)
I always had the impression Alex himself was actually a centrist but was vocal about lefty support, to help his career.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:18 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: JT at December 05, 2020 08:18 PM (arJlL)
Oh, my, yes.
https://moviegique.com/2008/04/mammoth-ries/
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 08:18 PM (dhFCT)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:19 PM (L2ZTs)
Then again, I don't like Noir either.
Posted by: browndog
A character you are, Sir, quite a character.
Also rayciss
Posted by: Sidney Miklos-Greenstreet at December 05, 2020 08:20 PM (QzkSJ)
He turned out better than average. Today is his 30th bday.
Posted by: Beatgirl at December 05, 2020 08:15 PM (a1s1
That is doing it right.
Even if I have trouble watching They Live right now thanks to Carpenter sprouting off on how it is mostly just an anti-Reaganomics film.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:20 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:20 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: qdpsteve
Carly and Lucy Simon could produce it!
Posted by: Michelle Fields at December 05, 2020 08:21 PM (Rvt88)
Every review of "Hillbilly Elegy" I've seen hated it. And it wasn't just the SJW reviewers, even conservatives hated it. Howard might have been trying to make a character piece for Amy Adams and Glenn Close but everyone says that Howard forgot to give them a story. Just a movie in flashbacks of three unlikable people with nothing that explains why they are what they are.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2020 08:21 PM (4thlk)
Then again, I don't like Noir either.
Posted by: browndog
A character you are, Sir, quite a character.
Also rayciss
Posted by: Sidney Miklos-Greenstreet at December 05, 2020 08:20 PM (QzkSJ)
Did Sidney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre have an arrangement to star in Bogies best films?
Posted by: browndog at December 05, 2020 08:21 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: Unkaren at December 05, 2020 08:21 PM (vGJY7)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 05, 2020 08:21 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 08:22 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2020 08:22 PM (Rvt88)
Posted by: Zeera I should be writing right now at December 05, 2020 08:22 PM (zUdXR)
Posted by: DR.WTF at December 05, 2020 08:12 PM (AiZBA)
Sounds like the Pink Floyd song Nobody Home:
I got thirteen channels of shit on the T.V. to choose from
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 05, 2020 08:22 PM (yISI5)
Posted by: attila the irritable at December
Nagasaki didn't se him coming.
Posted by: Fox2! at December 05, 2020 08:22 PM (qyH+l)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 05, 2020 08:22 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:16 PM (hku12)
Highlander 1 set the stage.
Highlander 2 went berserk, and we suddenly had Alien Immortals.
Highlander the series, ignored Highlander 2, like it never existed.
Later movies continues that trend.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2020 08:23 PM (d9rwJ)
Posted by: WOPR
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Two cases in point: Bombing scene in 'The Train', they had to get right, no second chance.. https://tinyurl.com/yxjcvc4a
Also, the derailment scene in 'The Fugitive'. One shot at it:
https://tinyurl.com/y3fxkzbl
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2020 08:23 PM (ELgVT)
Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 05, 2020 08:23 PM (5FCda)
Posted by: browndog
Warner Bothers was run by smart people.
Posted by: Miklos, the leetle friend at December 05, 2020 08:24 PM (QzkSJ)
I'm not good with movies where almost all of the characters are unpleasant a-holes.
On the other hand, I thought the same team's "Spring" was great.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2020 08:25 PM (l9m7l)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:25 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:10 PM (hku12)
The only thing they can do is pretend they were never made. They are an nonredeemable disaster. The only thing enjoyable about them is watching Roundhead destroy everything from the first sequel, and JarJar Abrams attempt to roll everything back in three. Jar Jar is the Destroyer of Franchises. His Star Trek films failed the more he made.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:18 PM (J70i0)
As noted above, the crime of it is having wasted the original actors, killing them off to get them out of the way.
So... any redo is going to have that dilemma. Do you keep the characters, and plug in new actors, or do you scrap the characters, trying to create a new generation that isn't in any way related to Rey and Kylo Ren and Rose Tiko and all that garbage.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:25 PM (hku12)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 05, 2020 08:25 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: attila the irritable at December
Nagasaki didn't se him coming.
Posted by: Fox2!
Shoulda hired Jake.
Posted by: Miklos, former Little Boy at December 05, 2020 08:26 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:26 PM (gtJ22)
Posted by: attila the irritable at December
Nagasaki didn't se him coming.
Posted by: Fox2!
Yeah, it Bombed.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2020 08:26 PM (Rvt88)
Every review of "Hillbilly Elegy" I've seen hated it. And it wasn't just the SJW reviewers, even conservatives hated it. Howard might have been trying to make a character piece for Amy Adams and Glenn Close but everyone says that Howard forgot to give them a story. Just a movie in flashbacks of three unlikable people with nothing that explains why they are what they are.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2020 08:21 PM (4thlk)
The Hollywood in Toto guy didn't hate it from what I read. And Ron Howard gave an interview stating most of the hate he got was from libs pissed he had made the film and not given them the leftist circle jerk of mocking the characters that they wanted (Howard apparently removed all the Trump stuff).
I have come to recognize almost all mainstream "reviewers" are just people who read everything through their church of leftism, and by and large I don't bother with their opinions though on a few occasions I do agree with them when the review isn't filtered through their scriptures. But that is getting rarer and rarer.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:27 PM (Ojki1)
John Hubbard played the husband.
I only mention this b/c the mental image of Menjou flouncing is giving me the willies.
It is a cute switch movie. Look for it on TCM.
Posted by: Sal at December 05, 2020 08:27 PM (KTdeA)
But CV19 has blown up and destroyed Hollywood's old, classic and frankly grossly outdated distribution system like crazy.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:27 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Miklos, watching the watchers at December 05, 2020 08:27 PM (QzkSJ)
>>The Lady Vanishes
I can't recommend the book that is based on enough. Maybe the greatest thriller I've ever read, all taking place on a train trip.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 08:27 PM (dhFCT)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:27 PM (gtJ22)
Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 05, 2020 08:27 PM (qDSku)
Impressions ?
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:26 PM (gtJ22)
It's not over yet.
Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 05, 2020 08:27 PM (5FCda)
I was very pleasantly surprised to see Ron Howard push back on the critics.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:28 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:28 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Miklos, watching the watchers at December 05, 2020 08:27 PM (QzkSJ)
OK on it on RSBN
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:28 PM (gtJ22)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:28 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 08:28 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: attila the irritable at December
Nagasaki didn't se him coming.
Posted by: Fox2!
Yeah, it Bombed.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2020 08:26 PM (Rvt88
It was over in a flash.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2020 08:28 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2020 07:49 PM (9sWOw)
He was great in Swingers. I think the first time I started liking him was with his appearance on The Larry Sanders show. I know he has been in some other good indie stuff but also had some stinkers. I like the guy though. If i recall correctly, he is conservative by Hollyweird standards. He used to call himself a libertarian i believe. That used to be code for not being a leftist but also not wanting to draw too much fire in certain industries.
Posted by: Quint at December 05, 2020 08:28 PM (bPvlX)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 07:58 PM (zr5Kq)
The Kingdom is really good. I would suggest checking out DETECTIVE K, RAMPANT and BLOOD RAIN
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 08:29 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:29 PM (gtJ22)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:16 PM (hku12)
Highlander 1 set the stage.
Highlander 2 went berserk, and we suddenly had Alien Immortals.
Highlander the series, ignored Highlander 2, like it never existed.
Later movies continues that trend.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2020 08:23 PM (d9rwJ)
Ah, I see.
Sorta like with Logan, they basically did a story that almost acts like most of the sequels don't exist, basically taking these two specific characters and letting us see how their stories play out. And then sorta create an opportunity for a next generation... if anyone wants it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:29 PM (hku12)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 05, 2020 08:29 PM (TqblR)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:29 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 08:29 PM (dKiJG)
what are those ??
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:30 PM (zr5Kq)
My wife and I watched it a couple nights ago. So, she's from Appalachia, and has some very opinionated thoughts on this movie.
The two lead women, Close and Adams, are "shallow" and not particularly well fleshed out. That being said, Close has a pretty good take on the Appalachian mamaw. I know, I've seen it. I get that the majority of the story is in Ohio, and Kentucky... but both are near enough to the Appalachian's to be cromulent.
The story is pretty true to life regardless what Ron Howard did to it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 05, 2020 08:30 PM (3H9h1)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:17 PM (ztzef)
Neither were competent, from a writing standpoint, to do Star Wars movies. Add in KK as "leadership" and it was doomed to fail. Today's Hollywood writers, sadly a lot from my Gen-X generation, seem incapable of putting together a coherent story. A lot of it is a lack of a literary education. Add in SJW signalling needs and you end up with trash. Ace wrote a more coherent TFA story than JJ put together.
They could have had a story (ht: Ace) where Rey ends up as a child stuck on a planet with a Stormtrooper, Fin, who raises her. (Parents on archaeological expedition for Empire and everyone dies during Rebel attack) Rey learns Force powers from a nearby Jedi/Sith/? temple. Explains her powers and also makes her more of a wildcard (good/evil/gray). Fin trains her in discipline.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:30 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: Antifa Ate My Homework at December 05, 2020 08:28 PM (+g+g3)
Go fuck your sorry ass with a barbed jackhammer.
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:30 PM (gtJ22)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 08:28 PM (Dc2NZ)
Yep. As RLM's Rich Evens has said "Star Wars is creatively bankrupt."
Which is a real shame as there was 25 years worth of additional material showing what could be done in the universe, but everyone kept running back to building off stuff in the 1st trilogy.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:31 PM (Ojki1)
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y39xbbj3
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2020 08:31 PM (7bcfy)
*shakes head
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:32 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 08:28 PM (Dc2NZ)
That's basically George's fault, his silly notion that there needed to be a rhyme, a symmetry between the original three films, and the subsequent prequels and sequels.
I'm really not the target audience for what comes next, but I think that's why people overpraise the Mandelorian thing.
It's in the universe, and creates a story that is free from the tight grip of Lucas' trilogy.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:32 PM (hku12)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 05, 2020 08:32 PM (TqblR)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:32 PM (Nyumu)
I think Ron Howard was trying to make himself seem fair and trying to appeal to a wider audience from the right/left and the Heartland but he just isn't that good of a movie maker anymore. Be honest, what was his last good movie?
Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2020 08:32 PM (4thlk)
"Mask of Demetrios" is one of the best.
Posted by: Sal at December 05, 2020 08:32 PM (KTdeA)
Posted by: browndog
Warner Bothers was run by smart people.
Posted by: Miklos, the leetle friend at December 05, 2020 08:24 PM (QzkSJ)
Oh yeah, the "studio" system...I fo'got!
Posted by: browndog at December 05, 2020 08:32 PM (BgMrQ)
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y39xbbj3
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2020 08:31 PM (7bcfy)
And a damn good ditchdigger,too.
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:33 PM (gtJ22)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:30 PM (zr5Kq)
Movies and I reread what you said, LAST KINGDOM, not Kingdom which is a Korean Zombie series that doesn't suck
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 08:33 PM (dKiJG)
And a damn good ditchdigger,too.
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:33 PM (gtJ22)
Well played
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 05, 2020 08:34 PM (7bcfy)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:34 PM (gtJ22)
Posted by: davidt at December 05, 2020 08:34 PM (l3+k2)
True, but they didn't make that film either.
The amazing thing is that it is obvious that they just winged it and didn't have a coherent or even semi-coherent plan.
Which is amazing in and of itself.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:34 PM (ztzef)
I need to go back and read the whole thing.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 05, 2020 08:34 PM (x8Wzq)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 08:28 PM (Dc2NZ)
The Mandalorian is good.
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:34 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:32 PM (Nyumu)
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Why would we hate you for that? "Buffy" and "Angel" were some of the best TV ever made.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 08:34 PM (Dc2NZ)
Still, I give Ron a lot of credit for trying to make a flick that didn't just appeal to the left, which would have been so easy for him to do. Apparently he's not as crazy a lefty as some have claimed he is.
And I just took a peek at his filmography, and not sure which one of his most recent was the best, but he does have some good stuff in there.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:34 PM (L2ZTs)
Am right now packing up the copy they sent me of Body Heat. At least returns are easy (thank God for Kohls.)
Posted by: qdpsteve (not a paid endorser or being bribed by Jeff Bezos, honest!) at December 05, 2020 08:11 PM (L2ZTs)
I got not one but TWO empty Blu-ray cases from vendors on Amazon. Unfortunately one was bought too long ago.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 05, 2020 08:35 PM (/+bwe)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 05, 2020 08:35 PM (TqblR)
Like Fargo, or something.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 05, 2020 08:36 PM (x8Wzq)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:36 PM (ztzef)
I don't know what your specific situation was, but IMHO when something comes from Amazon, it should be inspected ASAP just in case something is missing, damaged or defective.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:36 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 08:33 PM (dKiJG)
Oh, so not dramas based on exciting history of pre-Norman invasion England ?
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:36 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:36 PM (Nyumu)
Posted by: The Troll's Jerk Sock at December 05, 2020 08:36 PM (l3+k2)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:36 PM (gtJ22)
Trump is showing the GA video
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 08:36 PM (nUhF0)
you keep the characters, and plug in new actors, or do you scrap the
characters, trying to create a new generation that isn't in any way
related to Rey and Kylo Ren and Rose Tiko and all that garbage.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:25 PM (hku12)
They have to start fresh. The old actors are gone or soon to be gone. It was a horribly missed opportunity. There is no going back to that well. The new characters are so unmemorable and laughable that there is no use for them.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:36 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2020 08:36 PM (9sWOw)
Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 05, 2020 08:37 PM (5FCda)
That's basically George's fault, his silly notion that there needed to be a rhyme, a symmetry between the original three films, and the subsequent prequels and sequels.
I'm really not the target audience for what comes next, but I think that's why people overpraise the Mandelorian thing.
It's in the universe, and creates a story that is free from the tight grip of Lucas' trilogy.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:32 PM (hku12)
I think the Force Awakens was the fault of
Lawrence Kasdan recognizing he could basically re-write his Star Wars script and Abrams adding in a bunch of "mystery box with no planned payoff" shit that he is famous for to blend in a healthy bit of nostalgia for the original film.
For people who felt the film needed to be just a update for a new generation it seemed to go over great. For people wanting something else...no so much.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:37 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 05, 2020 08:35 PM (TqblR)
A surprisingly good movie. I like it a lot. I have the book too, but it has not come up on my list of Stuff I Gotta Read.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 05, 2020 08:38 PM (x8Wzq)
I would love of some fearless filmmaker were to do a big-screen treatment of Married With Children.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:38 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: TeeJ at December 05, 2020 08:38 PM (H8mJH)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:38 PM (gtJ22)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (ztzef)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (Nyumu)
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 05, 2020 08:35 PM (TqblR)
No offense, ladies, but even with zombies it still sounds like a chick flick.
I've never seen it, and probably never will.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (hku12)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:38 PM (gtJ22)
You almost have to.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (mGvAY)
Too much beer, signing off now. Be great, everyone!
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (l9m7l)
Posted by: katya the designated driver
that was a fun movie!
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 08:40 PM (nUhF0)
Al... Vince Vaughn
Peg... Christina Hendricks
Kelly... not sure. Maybe (please don't hate me) Miley Cyrus?
Bud... Josh Gad
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:40 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (Nyumu)
They have homos now, according to Mom.
She stopped watching Hallmark because of it.
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:40 PM (gtJ22)
I have the book and have tried to read it but haven't gotten far and the movie is much more fun.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 05, 2020 08:40 PM (TqblR)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (ztzef)
Now what's Pritzker doing?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 05, 2020 08:41 PM (yISI5)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:41 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (mGvAY)
This. It's the law, I think.
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:41 PM (gtJ22)
Docking because your gay . . .
Posted by: Homo For The Holidays - Now Playing on Hallmark at December 05, 2020 08:42 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:42 PM (Nyumu)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:42 PM (ztzef)
The amazing thing is that it is obvious that they just winged it and didn't have a coherent or even semi-coherent plan.
Which is amazing in and of itself.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:34 PM (ztzef)
Hiring JJ was a mistake. He's never shown the ability to create a story with a beginning, middle, and end. He starts out by throwing all sorts of mysteries that he has no idea how to resolve.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:42 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:42 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (Nyumu)
Oddly enough I like the occasional cheesy Christmas movie that gets me weepy.
Where do I put my man card?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 05, 2020 08:43 PM (lgiXo)
Posted by: dartist at December 05, 2020 08:43 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 08:43 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Hallmark at December 05, 2020 08:43 PM (gtJ22)
True, but they didn't make that film either.
The amazing thing is that it is obvious that they just winged it and didn't have a coherent or even semi-coherent plan.
Which is amazing in and of itself.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:34 PM (ztzef)
Until you see that that is the pattern of JJ Abrams career. He imagines himself to be the next Spielberg, and to be fair he is a better than average director. He just has no idea why things work like they do in film/TV and that throwing out cool teases with no thought into payoff rarely works, and once people have figured out that is your gimmick, like Shamalan and twists, it looses its effect and becomes a punch line.
And yet Bad Robot has the ability to acquire and destroy so much because current Whoreywood is such a garbage fire.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:43 PM (Ojki1)
good luck with that
Im familiar with this rock climbing thingy, they want to go change the 1990s
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 05, 2020 08:43 PM (GIeIM)
Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 05, 2020 08:44 PM (5FCda)
The Mandolorian is spaghetti western meets Lone Wolf and Cub set in the Star Wars universe.
Helmed by someone who loves the source material.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:44 PM (ztzef)
Men don't care as long as we aren't roped into watching them. We like our tropes in war and action movies.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:45 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:42 PM (L2ZTs)
OK, what's going on qdpsteve ??
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:45 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (Nyumu)
You might like this... or hate it. I'm not sure.
Jacksfilms, whose videos are some of the funniest stuff on Youtube, talks about how much he loves Hallmark Christmas movies:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EK8OE8Svm4
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:45 PM (hku12)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:41 PM (zr5Kq)
he is in Prospect
underrated low budget gritty scifi movie
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 08:45 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: havelhavolim at December 05, 2020 08:45 PM (fLpTX)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (gtJ22)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (Nyumu)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (dKiJG)
This whole "COVID: do you or don't you have it, or are you, or are you not contagious if you are asymptomatic?" bullshit reminds me of my impression of D&D games I saw our kids playing years ago in which it seemed to me that the Dungeonmaster could pull whatever bullshit he/she wanted out of their ass in order to continue to make the other players' lives miserable.
Maybe a "COVID & Commies" game is what is now called for.
Player: "My test was negative!"
CommieMaster: "But you might be asymptomatic! Roll!"
Player:
** belts CM in the mouth and leaves the game **
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:43 PM (Ojki1)
I might hire JJ to direct a film. I would also state he will film the story as scripted and all changes to the script run through me.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:47 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (gtJ22)
I agree.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 05, 2020 08:47 PM (lgiXo)
They have to start fresh. The old actors are gone or soon to be gone. It was a horribly missed opportunity. There is no going back to that well. The new characters are so unmemorable and laughable that there is no use for them.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:36 PM (J70i0)
Apparently the rumor is that the new films are so bad most of the new actors can't even get much work (granted today the Rona is probably not helping).
Though in John Boyega's case I imagine Pacific Rim: Uprising isn't exactly a resume shining moment either.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:47 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:42 PM (L2ZTs)
Panty Griffith ?
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:47 PM (gtJ22)
Normally, I'd consider that to be a recommendation, but I'm kind of on the "meh" as far as Little Ronny Howard. His Beatles documentary was okay, and I liked "Frost/Nixon" but primarily because Langella plays Nixon like he's King Lear. Everybody else looks like ankle-biters.
Before that, he did "Cindarella Man" which pissed me off and really put me off him. He slurred Max Baer horribly, and Baer's family was reasonably upset.
Oh, also, "A Beautiful Mind" also kind of pissed me off because the real game theory didn't support their leftist views, so they just changed it.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 08:47 PM (dhFCT)
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 08:48 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (gtJ22)
Nope, George C. Scott version.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:48 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (gtJ22)
I agree.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 05, 2020 08:47 PM (lgiXo)
*fistbump*
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:48 PM (gtJ22)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (dKiJG)
Watch Bone Tomahawk if you want the exact opposite. Not his fault.
I don't think I've ever been so traumatized by a movie. Ever.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 05, 2020 08:48 PM (x8Wzq)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:49 PM (L2ZTs)
I don't think we are "post-Covid" anywhere. Seems more like the fuckheads are just getting warmed up with their fascistic new world order and Covid is their intended delivery vehicle.
More like we are in the Covid era.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at December 05, 2020 08:49 PM (8Bfiv)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 08:50 PM (2DOZq)
Was looking in my stack for a movie I hadn't watched in a long time.
There, almost at the bottom of a stack. Couldn't even remember what it was about it had been so long and only watched once.
The reason I couldn't remember it was I probably didn't get all the way through it the first time.
The Snows of Kilimanjaro
Don't waste your time.
Posted by: TeeJ at December 05, 2020 08:50 PM (H8mJH)
Posted by: Blacksheep at December 05, 2020 08:50 PM (6mvRv)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:50 PM (Nyumu)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 05, 2020 08:50 PM (H5knJ)
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Hmmmm...it could be a single solar system with dozens of planets and hundreds of moons...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 05, 2020 08:50 PM (Uhu8A)
Any flicks that might have appeal to a conservative audience, they give a 2 or 2.5 star rating to... but then write a review that's a bit more objective and sounds like it belongs to a 3-star film.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:50 PM (L2ZTs)
Cowboys & Aliens also in the queue. Daniel Craig, meh
Posted by: Zeera I should be writing right now
That was among the last three movies that I ever watched in a movie theater. I was impressed, and not favorably.
Don't ask me to name what might have been the other two movies, as I have no idea, although I think "Anchorman 2" might have been one of them.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2020 08:50 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:49 PM (L2ZTs)
Yes. Yes, you did.
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:51 PM (gtJ22)
Helmed by someone who loves the source material.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:44 PM (ztzef)
There was a little of that Japanese form in the last installment. I am not familiar with manga, made me think of Kill Bill when I watched. Wonder if Jon Favreau is a fan of Tarantino.
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:51 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (Nyumu)
Be careful though, Jack is addictive. You can end up getting lost watching all his back catalog of videos... literally hours and hours worth.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:52 PM (hku12)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:52 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:41 PM (zr5Kq)
Except he thinks we are all Nazis.
Course he is brave to say that, but not brave enough to leave the tweet up.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:52 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 08:53 PM (Nyumu)
He slurred Max Baer horribly, and Baer's family was reasonably upset
I'd be upset if he dissed Jethro, too.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2020 08:53 PM (pNxlR)
underrated low budget gritty scifi movie
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 08:45 PM (nUhF0)
*makes a note to watch Prospect
Liked him since GoT.
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:53 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 05, 2020 08:54 PM (H5knJ)
Course he is brave to say that, but not brave enough to leave the tweet up.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:52 PM (Ojki1)
does not show in his work. yet. when it does I won't watch.
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:55 PM (zr5Kq)
with Jim Cavaziek is better than Cowboys & Aliens Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 08:55 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 08:55 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (gtJ22)
It was a good one and had a young Patrick Macnee in it. The one with Reginald Owen from 1938 was good too.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 05, 2020 08:55 PM (yISI5)
Posted by: JROD at December 05, 2020 08:56 PM (0jZnq)
Though in John Boyega's case I imagine Pacific Rim: Uprising isn't exactly a resume shining moment either.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:47 PM (Ojki1)
I think Boyega has committed the crime of expressing his opinion about how they pissed away his character on stupid nonsense. Which of course is true.
That being said, the only actors on the set that are going to have careers are the ones who already had careers. Mainly Adam Driver and Oscar Isaac.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:56 PM (hku12)
This one of those public domain films you can pick up anywhere...like, you can download from Internet Archive.
qdpsteve --
Yeah, it's a terrible cliche but the critical class is exactly who and what you think it is. When I was a kid I talked my dad into seeing "Under The Volcano" because of the critical praise, and afterwards he said something to the effect of "If all the critics love it, that's a good sign it's awful."
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 08:57 PM (dhFCT)
I also love Cowboys vs Aliens. Everyone else seems to hate it but I think it's one of those movies that big stars are in because sometimes they just want to have fun. Sort of like Big Trouble In Little China.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 05, 2020 08:57 PM (TqblR)
underrated low budget gritty scifi movie
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 08:45 PM (nUhF0)
I liked the Fact the Director made a point that everyone wore a different Space suit, He felt that in the Future Space suits would be like clothes and people would personalize them.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 08:57 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: jsg
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Fact Check: Absolutely Correct. George C. Scott tried, but he knew it was futile.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2020 08:58 PM (CTJwJ)
Posted by: Eisenhorn at December 05, 2020 08:58 PM (F6tBH)
Tomatoes it has almost a double-Jesus-split. (A Jesus split is a 40
point hit that a movie takes with critics over the popular vote because
it mentions Jesus.)
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 08:47 PM (dhFCT)
I have a problem with people who leave small hometown X and then proceed to trash nearly everyone they left behind. I have hill billy relatives. I know there are cultural problems. Going to an Ivy league college and writing a book isn't going to solve them.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:58 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 05, 2020 08:50 PM (H5knJ)
He hadn't had all the praise that movie got go to his head then would be my guess.
Then again, I tuned out of the movie at the very beginning where they did the "cute" wink and a nod of the kid with the camera explaining how they put kids in danger to rope the audience in just before JJ does the same thing with the film. Meta can be good, but it was like a magician explaining how the illusion is performed and then expecting me to feel a sense of wonder when he performed the same illusion one moment later.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:58 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 05, 2020 08:50 PM (H5knJ)
He basically remade E.T., only the alien wasn't cute and cuddly.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:58 PM (hku12)
Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2020 08:59 PM (4thlk)
I think most directers like and respect Tarantino but only Tarantino can do Tarantino, the dude is love with his words because he puts a nearly endless stream of words in his characters mouths.
The only guy who tried to apprxximate Tarantino was Guy Richie, he was only able to pull it off for two films.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:59 PM (ztzef)
Posted by: t-bird at December 05, 2020 08:59 PM (9Fwwf)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (gtJ22)
This is known!
Posted by: browndog at December 05, 2020 08:59 PM (BgMrQ)
Yes, but they'll make him a black lesbian.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 05, 2020 09:00 PM (7DzWP)
It was, in fact, Max Baer, Jr who objected most loudly to this portrayal of his father and I totally had this view of this gentle giant being sad because people were mean to his dad.
And it could've been a MUCH better movie if they treated Baer, Sr. fairly. Instead turning him into a cartoon villain, treat him as someone who was so gentle, he genuinely felt BAD about hurting people in the ring, and was doubtless conflicted about the match.
No, no, make him Mr. T's character from Rocky III, that's how you get the Oscars.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:00 PM (dhFCT)
Posted by: Miklos, with last, best hope at December 05, 2020 09:00 PM (QzkSJ)
I liked the Fact the Director made a point that everyone wore a different Space suit, He felt that in the Future Space suits would be like clothes and people would personalize them.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
I felt like a lot of thought went into that movie
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 09:00 PM (nUhF0)
It really had a Stranger Things vibe going on.
Being a kid in the '80s might add to just how much I love those shows.
Ask me about Freaks and Geeks.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 05, 2020 09:01 PM (x8Wzq)
Don't hate me but I'm thinking of re-watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer tv series
Stop watching when Willow goes gey.
Posted by: Beatgirl at December 05, 2020 09:01 PM (a1s18)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:59 PM (ztzef)
I thought he did a good job with Sherlock Holmes
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 09:01 PM (dKiJG)
Where do I put my man card?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 05, 2020
My Dad loves the Hallmark Christmas movies. I think it helps w/ his loss of my Mom.
Posted by: Farmer at December 05, 2020 09:01 PM (uEauf)
Yes, but they'll make him a black lesbian.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
I decline the role.
Posted by: Miklos, with the moustache at December 05, 2020 09:01 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:58 PM (hku12)
Ever try to watch ET without Williams score to carry it?
It leaves a much different impression.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:02 PM (Ojki1)
If your tapes of Dr. Demento shows haven't won her over yet, she really doesn't deserve Weird Al.
Posted by: t-bird at December 05, 2020 09:03 PM (pbStR)
trope: Military bad, aliens good. But it's fun, well acted and the kids
act the way kids do when there are no adults around.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 05, 2020 08:57 PM (TqblR)
The only part I found good about Super 8 was the kids making their film. That was good. It was a JJ attempt at a Spielberg film.
BTW, the "let's have the kids swear like sailors" is tired and painful. Even the kids who swore a decent amount in the 80's never swore as much as they do in these movies and shows.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 09:03 PM (J70i0)
The greatest Hollywood tribute to country life is (well, excluding Ma & Pa Kettle) "Holiday Inn".
Broken-hearted Bing Crosby retires from the grueling life of a Broadway star to live the simple country life on a farm. He of course gets his ass kicked and opts to open an in instead--and one that's only open on holidays.
They knew what was what in the '40s.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:03 PM (dhFCT)
I probably picked it up from a $3 bin at wallyworld 10 or 15 years ago, Steve.
Probably saw Peck and Gardner and figured what the heck.
Posted by: TeeJ at December 05, 2020 09:03 PM (H8mJH)
Posted by: t-bird at December 05, 2020 09:04 PM (pbStR)
Don't hate me but I'm thinking of re-watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer tv series
Stop watching when Willow goes gey.
Posted by: Beatgirl
And the whole Buffy and Spike bullshit.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2020 09:04 PM (U2p+3)
He's a decent to good director, it's just early in his career he tried to be the next Tarantino with Lock Stock and Snatch, then he married Madonna and started making crap, he divorced here and
slowly started to claw his way back.
He's very uneven.
Moral of the story, don't marry Madonna.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 09:05 PM (ztzef)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 05, 2020 08:58 PM (CTJwJ)
It was a bit out of character when Scott said, "Dickens, you magnificent bastard. I read your book!!!"
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 05, 2020 09:05 PM (yISI5)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 09:05 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:05 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Beatgirl at December 05, 2020 09:05 PM (a1s18)
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 09:05 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 08:59 PM (ztzef)
I thought he did a good job with Sherlock Holmes
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 09:01 PM (dKiJG)
The first one is fun.
The second one...yeah.
Have no real expectations of the 3rd that they are working on (not sure where they were when Rona hit).
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:05 PM (Ojki1)
My Dad loves the Hallmark Christmas movies. I think it helps w/ his loss of my Mom.
Posted by: Farmer at December 05, 2020 09:01 PM (uEauf)
Makes sense to me.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 05, 2020 09:05 PM (lgiXo)
Posted by: t-bird at December 05, 2020 09:05 PM (pbStR)
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 09:00 PM (nUhF0)
Yeah, I think he asked Cosplayers for costumes designs for the Space suits and it showed.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 09:05 PM (dKiJG)
Don't hate me but I'm thinking of re-watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer tv series
Stop watching when Willow goes gey.
Posted by: Beatgirl
And the whole Buffy and Spike bullshit.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2020 09:04 PM (U2p+3)
I could go for a re-watch of Cruel Intentions.
Lordy I had impure thoughts about Sarah...
Posted by: browndog at December 05, 2020 09:06 PM (BgMrQ)
But I remember a lot of the "it's like poetry, it rhymes" crap and what I heard was, "I have no new ideas, which was apparent when 'Return' rehashed the plot of the first movie." And the only thing I can say in Lucas' defense is that that seems to have been true of the Disney sequels, too.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:06 PM (dhFCT)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 09:06 PM (ztzef)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 09:06 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: nurse ratched
Spike was hilarious when he was pining after her in season 4? whenever...before her jump
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 09:07 PM (nUhF0)
(BTW, the good Doctor himself lives in my hometown.)
Moviegique, agreed. I don't trust many critics anymore either.
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 09:07 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:08 PM (Nyumu)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 09:08 PM (zr5Kq)
Stop watching when Willow goes gey.
Posted by: Beatgirl
I remember people making fun of me because I thought the musical episode was one of the best in the series.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2020 09:09 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2020 09:09 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 09:10 PM (J70i0)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2020 09:10 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:08 PM (Nyumu)
Even in the series, one of the bad guys mocked him for being a Billy Idol wannabe.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2020 09:11 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 09:11 PM (ztzef)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 09:11 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2020 09:13 PM (9sWOw)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 09:11 PM (dKiJG)
Spielberg is still a better director than most of Hollywood. RPO was fine. But, Spielberg no longer has the magic touch.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 09:13 PM (J70i0)
Stop watching when Willow goes gey.
Posted by: Beatgirl
I remember people making fun of me because I thought the musical episode was one of the best in the series.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2020 09:09 PM (V2Yro)
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That episode is great! I've actually got the piano music to it.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:13 PM (CAJOC)
Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2020 09:13 PM (9sWOw)
Just for Karen Allen and Buster Poindexter alone...
Posted by: browndog at December 05, 2020 09:14 PM (BgMrQ)
I have the book and have tried to read it but haven't gotten far and the movie is much more fun.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 05, 2020 08:40 PM (TqblR)
The first movie was really good.
Oh...
According to Mrs D.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2020 09:14 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Beatgirl at December 05, 2020 09:14 PM (a1s18)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2020 09:10 PM (U2p+3)
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I seem to recall that Whedon wrote that one because he was sick of everybody always commenting on his dialogue. So he basically wrote an episode with no dialogue (well, minimal, anyway). And yes, it's one of the best.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:14 PM (CAJOC)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:15 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 09:11 PM (dKiJG)
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I know we're talking movies, but I saw there's a sequel to the book - Ready Player Two.
Reviews on Amazon are not good.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:16 PM (CAJOC)
Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 05, 2020 09:16 PM (evxBY)
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 08:41 PM (zr5Kq)
I enjoy the newest episode because it brought back a character that was underused in the prequels.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 05, 2020 09:16 PM (/+bwe)
The Alistair Sims version is the One True A Christmas Carol.
Posted by: jsg
Nope, George C. Scott version.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue
You have to make the other poor dumb bastard put HIS coin in the bell ringer's kettle!
Posted by: General Scrooge at December 05, 2020 09:16 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 05, 2020 09:17 PM (/+bwe)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:15 PM (2DOZq)
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The last season was a tough slog. But we got six seasons, so now waiting on the movie.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:17 PM (CAJOC)
But I remember a lot of the "it's like poetry, it rhymes" crap and what I heard was, "I have no new ideas, which was apparent when 'Return' rehashed the plot of the first movie." And the only thing I can say in Lucas' defense is that that seems to have been true of the Disney sequels, too.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:06 PM (dhFCT)
It is hilarious to watch the interview where Lucas touches on Star Treks The Motion Pictures over reliance on effects to carry a picture and then see Jedi (not to mention the prequel trilogy...in fact, lets pretend it wasn't mentioned).
Add in that he clearly had figured out just how much money merch would make him and Jedi really played into that.
I'm 29 enough to remember how quickly after Jedi came out Star Wars was being clearanced and forgotten, even as Lucasfilm tried to push the 2 Ewok TV films and the Ewok and Droids cartoon.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:17 PM (Ojki1)
Oh no, LOL. Lady YD is studying to be a nurse's assistant, and has to make a video demonstrating some of her skills in caring for elderly patients. This one is "washing the old guy's feet."
She made the mistake of asking me to model for this. I immediately kicked out at her, and said "Is this why I fought in Vietnam? For some uppity youngster to manhandle my feet?!"
I was going for verisimilitude. Showing the challenges that a CNA faces... but, nooooo. "The Director" fired me and replaced me with the boy.
Now, he's giving her hell, too... He's the patient for whom the water temperature is NEVER right.
When she has to do this for real, we'll shape up, but this is fun for now.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2020 09:17 PM (BvLWD)
I, nor Miley, have been around here for the past few days or so, and I had a chance to drop in and update. We've completed the move, and Miley is thus ensconced in her new house. I haven't gotten stinking Charter/Spectrum in to hook up the cable and internet yet -- distance to the house is 550' from the road, way longer than max passive drop distance, so they're gonna have to put in a powered line with a repeater someway, and they're being assholes about that.
But I'll get it done. Miley loves the house and I do too -- but it's made me have to work the last week. Spread 15 cu. yds of mulch, just hung a damned chandelier over the dining area today, and other stuff. I'll be working on a proper driveway next week.
I'll be back regularly when I get internet down there, or when I get back up at the folks house.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 05, 2020 09:17 PM (f1Vqw)
I seem to recall that Whedon wrote that one because he was sick of everybody always commenting on his dialogue. So he basically wrote an episode with no dialogue (well, minimal, anyway). And yes, it's one of the best.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:14 PM (CAJOC)
before he became dead to me, I thought he was about the best dialogue writer working. Don't even get me started on how horrific Lucas' dialogue is. Anyone who uses "younglings" needs to be shot.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2020 09:18 PM (V2Yro)
Reviews on Amazon are not good.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:16 PM (CAJOC)
Yeah, some books don't need a sequel, same goes with Movies.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 09:18 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at December 05, 2020 09:18 PM (Zl/sG)
The Mandalorian is a spaghetti western.
It sounds like a delicious dish at a fancy Italican restaurant.
Posted by: Beatgirl at December 05, 2020 09:19 PM (a1s18)
Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2020 09:19 PM (4thlk)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 05, 2020 09:19 PM (LxTcq)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:05 PM (2DOZq)
I haven't seen either of those but if it's the same way he talked in RIPD, it sounds like his dentures don't fit right.
Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at December 05, 2020 09:20 PM (zNpyh)
He was an excellent writer. He truly had the gift of words.
Posted by: Ladyl at December 05, 2020 08:11 PM (TdMsT)
I do understand that concept, so I won't have any problems. I also have read that the Jesse Stone character in the books is much younger than the character Tom Selleck plays on TV. But that's OK. Timeframe, context, etc.
My favorite authors, in terms of sheer excellence, are Washington Irving and Charles Dickens, with a nod to P.G. Wodehouse and C.S. Forester as runners-up. And an honorable mention to Patrick O'Brian. So no problem with understanding writers in terms of historical context.
Which Jesse Stone did you watch, by the way?
Posted by: HTL at December 05, 2020 09:20 PM (2gvcB)
I'm glad for you and Miley, publius.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 05, 2020 09:20 PM (3+UMw)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:21 PM (Nyumu)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:08 PM (Nyumu)
Even in the series, one of the bad guys mocked him for being a Billy Idol wannabe.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2020 09:11 PM (V2Yro)
According to Spike, Billy Idol got the look from him.
As for Buffy and Spike, I think viewers were SUPPOSED to hate the pairing. That was the point. You bring a person back from the dead, and even if she's not "evil," she's still going to have her doubts. And make bad choices.
The one true genius of the show was NOT trying to make Buffy into a character who could do no wrong. She had to grow the F up. Which she did.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 09:21 PM (hku12)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 05, 2020 09:21 PM (H5knJ)
The Mandalorian is for children. And it is mostly pointless.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 05, 2020 09:21 PM (3+UMw)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 09:06 PM (ztzef)
Close Encounters made Spielberg millions from Star Wars.
His friend Lucas had come to the set and George was certain CE would bury SW cause everything about it was better, so Spielberg made a bet that SW would make more, and the two traded "stock" of 2.5% of the others return on the films.
Now if only Spielberg made merch sales part of that bet.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:22 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 05, 2020 09:17 PM (/+bwe)
okay...
I think I know who you mean...
Posted by: runner at December 05, 2020 09:22 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (gtJ22)
Nope, George C. Scott version.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 05, 2020 08:48 PM (J70i0)
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Haven't seen the Alistair Sim version. George C Scott version is one of my favorites, along with the Muppets version.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:22 PM (CAJOC)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 05, 2020 09:22 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at December 05, 2020 09:18 PM (Zl/sG)
did you see the story about the Texas high school player targeting the referee? I found a picture of him and it sure looks like Roid Rage to me. The kid is 18 and he looks like a 30 year old body builder. And a gang banger.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2020 09:22 PM (V2Yro)
Looks like I can rent that sci-fy Prospect movie from Amazon Prime for 2 bucks, might do that. If it sucks I'm blaming you guys.
I never blame you assholes for all the shitty books I bought.Caveat Emptor.
Posted by: Beatgirl at December 05, 2020 09:23 PM (a1s18)
Posted by: jsg
Nope, George C. Scott version.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue
You have to make the other poor dumb bastard put HIS coin in the bell ringer's kettle!
Posted by: General Scrooge at December 05, 2020 09:16 PM (63Dwl)
Now I know you are worried about how you will do in caroling. Well don't be.
When you look over at your friend's wretched face that a moment ago was ready to throw a buck into the kettle...don't worry. You'll know what to do.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2020 09:23 PM (axyOa)
Ad Astra....wasted opportunity. And being a weak cover of Heart of Darkness doesnt help.
Posted by: redchief at December 05, 2020 09:23 PM (Kab4E)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:08 PM (Nyumu)
I think the actor once commented he was lucky the character had a British accent, otherwise he'd have been killed off after one season
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 09:23 PM (nUhF0)
Too close for comfort by the post WWII COMMIE PINKO FAmosisa's infecting the film industry...
yeah call me wrong...double dare ya...
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 05, 2020 09:25 PM (u1WYs)
I never blame you assholes for all the shitty books I bought.Caveat Emptor.
Posted by: Beatgirl at December 05, 2020 09:23 PM (a1s1
it's a Western in space
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 09:25 PM (nUhF0)
And whatever both directors paid John Willams, it probably was not what he deserved to get.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 05, 2020 09:25 PM (ztzef)
Posted by: redchief at December 05, 2020 09:25 PM (Kab4E)
Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at December 05, 2020 09:20 PM (zNpyh)
Come to think of it yes that is how he talked in those two movies. Again I thought in RIPD he was putting on the same old west accent as True Grit.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:25 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Chance99 at December 05, 2020 09:25 PM (KGxGi)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:08 PM (Nyumu)
I think the actor once commented he was lucky the character had a British accent, otherwise he'd have been killed off after one season
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 09:23 PM (nUhF0)
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I think he was orignally only supposed to have a short arc (maybe 4 episodes). But fans liked him, so he got to stay.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:26 PM (CAJOC)
Did you ever wonder why George Orwell's "Animal Farm" was never made into a movie by Hollywood?"
Too close for comfort by the post WWII COMMIE PINKO FAmosisa's infecting the film industry...
yeah call me wrong...double dare ya...
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 05, 2020 09:25 PM (u1WYs)
----------------------------------------TNT did a version of Animal Farm about 20 years ago. It's like they took borrrowed all the animals from Babe....
Posted by: redchief at December 05, 2020 09:26 PM (Kab4E)
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 09:26 PM (nUhF0)
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Come to think of it yes that is how he talked in those two movies. Again I thought in RIPD he was putting on the same old west accent as True Grit.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:25 PM (2DOZq)
I really don't care for that mouth full of marbles affectation he's taken on.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2020 09:27 PM (nakwk)
>>It is hilarious to watch the interview where Lucas touches on Star Treks The Motion Pictures over reliance on effects
I believe that Wise was trying to create the sense of wonder that the original show always aspired to but never could afford. I think ST:TMP's real failing is in the cowardly rehashing of the two TV show scripts, not in the FX.
>> Jedi
Basically, Lucas wanted to be a toymaker 'cause that's where the money is. But see literally all of his subsequent efforts.
He's a good, even great, producer. Beyond that, he drank his own PR kool-aid which was creatively fatal.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:27 PM (dhFCT)
Posted by: redchief at December 05, 2020 09:23 PM (Kab4E)
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Yeah. His movies are really pretty; the effects are carefully done and nice.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2020 09:28 PM (BvLWD)
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at December 05, 2020 09:28 PM (icI8A)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2020 09:28 PM (/0HPZ)
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (gtJ22)
The Alastair Sim version may be my favorite, but it is one of the furthest from the text. His "redemption" scene is particularly excellent, yet not as written. The Patrick Stewart version is closer to the original story, at least in my opinion after comparing all of the productions that I have been able to find (at least five, and maybe six or seven if I think hard and try to remember).
Posted by: HTL at December 05, 2020 09:28 PM (2gvcB)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:08 PM (Nyumu)
I think the actor once commented he was lucky the character had a British accent, otherwise he'd have been killed off after one season
Posted by: vmom Mobile Autonomous Zone at December 05, 2020 09:23 PM (nUhF0)
And of course Marsters is American.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 09:28 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:29 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at December 05, 2020 09:29 PM (icI8A)
No hatred here. Watch it while you still can - Spike's speech in the Thanksgiving episode about how white Americans should stop with the "boo hoo about the bloody Indians" and "We came, we conquered, now we feel bad about it" is basically a hate crime now.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2020 09:30 PM (6XLoz)
The Alistair Sims version is the One True A Christmas Carol.
Posted by: jsg at December 05, 2020 08:46 PM (gtJ22)
The
Alastair Sim version may be my favorite, but it is one of the furthest
from the text. His "redemption" scene is particularly excellent, yet not
as written. The Patrick Stewart version is closer to the original
story, at least in my opinion after comparing all of the productions
that I have been able to find (at least five, and maybe six or seven if I
think hard and try to remember).
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I have a soft spot for Scrooged. Also, didnt Patrick Stewart do Christmas Carol as a one-man play on stage?
Posted by: redchief at December 05, 2020 09:30 PM (Kab4E)
Come to think of it yes that is how he talked in those two movies. Again I thought in RIPD he was putting on the same old west accent as True Grit.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:25 PM (2DOZq)
I figured his accent in RIPD was him figuring out the movie was gonna blow and to just do whatever he wanted in it.
Man Ryan Renyolds has been in some of the worst comic book movies ever. If Deadpool hadn't worked they would have had to CGI him into Howard the Duck by now to finish off his fondness for the genre.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:30 PM (Ojki1)
He's a good, even great, producer. Beyond that, he drank his own PR kool-aid which was creatively fatal.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:27 PM (dhFCT)
Like you, I'm not really a Star Wars fan. I'm more interested in the cultural phenomenon at this point, but since we're making things up as we go, like Lucas, if you had to pick someone to remake the sequels, someone working right now, who would it be?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 09:30 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2020 09:22 PM (V2Yro
I saw that and was genuinely shocked to see he was arrested. (But I still fully expect the cops to slap him REALLY hard on the wrist and then turn him over to the HS football coaching staff who will make him stand in the corner for five minutes.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2020 09:31 PM (/0HPZ)
Basically, Lucas wanted to be a toymaker 'cause that's where the money is. But see literally all of his subsequent efforts.
He's a good, even great, producer. Beyond that, he drank his own PR kool-aid which was creatively fatal.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:27 PM (dhFCT)
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And that's why there were no toys from Spaceballs. Lucas didn't want it interfering with his merchandising. To be fair, though, it gave us the great scene in Yogurt's temple.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:31 PM (CAJOC)
Don't hate me but I'm thinking of re-watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer tv series again.
No hatred here. Watch it while you still can - Spike's speech in
the Thanksgiving episode about how white Americans should stop with the
"boo hoo about the bloody Indians" and "We came, we conquered, now we
feel bad about it" is basically a hate crime now.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 05, 2020 09:30 PM (6XLoz)
---------------------------------------I saw the movie and could never touch the TV series. The movie was a wast of Rutger Hauer....(RIP)
Posted by: redchief at December 05, 2020 09:32 PM (Kab4E)
Posted by: lowandslow at December 05, 2020 09:32 PM (4thlk)
Man Ryan Renyolds has been in some of the worst comic book movies ever. If Deadpool hadn't worked they would have had to CGI him into Howard the Duck by now to finish off his fondness for the genre.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:30 PM (Ojki1)
I liked Deadpool. And I thought it was pretty funny that they took shots at the godawful production of Green Lantern Reynolds had been in.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2020 09:32 PM (nakwk)
Did you ever wonder why George Orwell's "Animal Farm" was never made into a movie by Hollywood?"
Too close for comfort by the post WWII COMMIE PINKO FAmosisa's infecting the film industry...
yeah call me wrong...double dare ya...
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 05, 2020 09:25 PM (u1WYs)
----------------------------------------TNT did a version of Animal Farm about 20 years ago. It's like they took borrrowed all the animals from Babe....
Posted by: redchief at December 05, 2020 09:26 PM (Kab4E)
Wasn't there an animated version? From WAY back?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2020 09:32 PM (/0HPZ)
The Mandalorian is for children. And it is mostly pointless.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 05, 2020 09:21 PM
No kidding. It's the only reason to watch TV: pointless fun. When I watch any "serious" or "adult" programs, the inaccuracies and Joseph Campbell-compliant scripts drive me crazy. But a muppet throwing adults around with magical powers? Fun.
Same way that I enjoyed the series Justified because it wore its absurdities well.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 05, 2020 09:32 PM (/+bwe)
TED????
GAWAFFFFFHAAAAHHHHAAAA...choke choke ....gasp...gasp
yeah right.....Figure Jane left him because he not be COMMIE enough...pound granite...hurt yourself.
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 05, 2020 09:32 PM (u1WYs)
Wasn't there an animated version? From WAY back?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2020 09:32 PM (/0HPZ)
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Yep....funded by the CIA.
Posted by: redchief at December 05, 2020 09:34 PM (Kab4E)
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Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at December 05, 2020 09:35 PM (icI8A)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2020 09:32 PM (nakwk)
I liked both Deadpool 1 and 2 and I don't like comic book movies. I guess they have to be mostly humorous. That's why I also liked GotG .
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:35 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at December 05, 2020 09:28 PM (icI8A)
You know you are in trouble from a casting standpoint when the actual Scottish actor does a more convincing job of being Spanish than your French actor does with being Scottish...or American, or frankly any accent. But he has made a career of it and largely not changed, so eh.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:35 PM (Ojki1)
He took his accent from the watcher dude, who actually talks like that irl.The guy from the coffee commercial.
Posted by: Beatgirl at December 05, 2020 09:35 PM (a1s18)
The Mandalorian is for children. And it is mostly pointless.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 05, 2020 09:21 PM
No kidding. It's the only reason to watch TV: pointless fun. When I watch any "serious" or "adult" programs, the inaccuracies and Joseph Campbell-compliant scripts drive me crazy. But a muppet throwing adults around with magical powers? Fun.
Same way that I enjoyed the series Justified because it wore its absurdities well.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 05, 2020 09:32 PM (/+bwe)
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Someone needs to calculate the average number of deaths per episode of Justified. I still contend that the town should have been pretty much empty after the first season.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:35 PM (CAJOC)
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:30 PM (Ojki1)
But he's funny as hell.
And his particular talent is in being totally serious in a role yet we all know he's having fun.
And his gin (Aviation) isn't bad.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2020 09:36 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:15 PM (2DOZq)
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Some of the most consistently funny writing ever, with constant callbacks to old seasons and jokes. The "alternate timelines" episode was terrific.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 09:36 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 05, 2020 09:36 PM (/+bwe)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2020 09:36 PM (nakwk)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2020 09:22 PM (V2Yro
I saw that and was genuinely shocked to see he was arrested. (But I still fully expect the cops to slap him REALLY hard on the wrist and then turn him over to the HS football coaching staff who will make him stand in the corner for five minutes.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2020 09:31 PM (/0HPZ)
The team was booted from the playoffs because of him.
I don't think the coaches or the rest of the team are going to be all that inclined to go easy on him.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 09:37 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 05, 2020 09:37 PM (u1WYs)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at December 05, 2020 09:37 PM (OssQ4)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 09:36 PM (Dc2NZ)
That's Dan Harmon's writing. You can see a lot of that in Rick and Morty.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:37 PM (2DOZq)
https://tinyurl.com/yd5zpufm
Came out in 1954.
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 05, 2020 09:37 PM (XrFbO)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:38 PM (Nyumu)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at December 05, 2020 09:17
Congrats on the new house, sounds awesome.
Posted by: Farmer at December 05, 2020 09:38 PM (uEauf)
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I found it really bleak.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 05, 2020 09:38 PM (lgiXo)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:38 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:15 PM (2DOZq)
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Some of the most consistently funny writing ever, with constant callbacks to old seasons and jokes. The "alternate timelines" episode was terrific.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 09:36 PM (Dc2NZ)
It's the thing of legends now, but Dan Harmon was booted off the show, I think after Season 3, and Season 4 is then a dumpster fire.
I don't remember now, if the show was cancelled after that (and picked up by Yahoo??), but it was never really the same after those first few seasons.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 09:39 PM (hku12)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:39 PM (Nyumu)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 05, 2020 09:22 PM (V2Yro
I saw that and was genuinely shocked to see he was arrested. (But I still fully expect the cops to slap him REALLY hard on the wrist and then turn him over to the HS football coaching staff who will make him stand in the corner for five minutes.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2020 09:31 PM (/0HPZ)
The team was booted from the playoffs because of him.
I don't think the coaches or the rest of the team are going to be all that inclined to go easy on him.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 09:37 PM (hku12)
Evidently he has played soccer as well, and pulled the same bullshit there.
I'd say the boy has some anger management issues!
Posted by: browndog at December 05, 2020 09:39 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:38 PM (Nyumu)
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But the music...
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:39 PM (CAJOC)
Yeah, Empire was the peak. The Ewoks killed it for me. It became a children's show. They fooled me twice with Jar-Jar and that all she wrote.
Posted by: t-bird at December 05, 2020 09:39 PM (AytXr)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:38 PM (Nyumu)
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But the music...
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:39 PM (CAJOC)
Right? The oh-so-80s synth soundtrack was jarring and totally out of place.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2020 09:40 PM (nakwk)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 05, 2020 09:38 PM (lgiXo)
The location or the show?
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Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:40 PM (Nyumu)
I don't remember now, if the show was cancelled after that (and picked up by Yahoo??), but it was never really the same after those first few seasons.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 09:39 PM (hku12)
He came back to the show and it got its luster back.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 09:40 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 05, 2020 09:36 PM (/+bwe)
They want $40 bucks for the 4K steelbook version of the original film at Bestbuy.
After saying they were done releasing 4K versions of their older films cause they just weren't selling enough.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:41 PM (Ojki1)
Watching The Maltese Falcon right now.
I'm looking at our 7 Maltese Falcons. One is a movie prop, *shifty eyes*
Posted by: Beatgirl at December 05, 2020 09:41 PM (a1s18)
Whereas I think some of the best Seinfeld was seasons 8 and 9 even though Larry David is certainly terrific.
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at December 05, 2020 09:41 PM (icI8A)
Working now? Man, I used to know all the up-and-coming directors and who was good or promising but there aren't many these days that stand out. The volume's too high.
That said, I hear good thing about Favreau's work on "The Mandalorian" and I've been a fan of his and, uh, Peter Berg's for a while. They probably have the most feel for the material. Or maybe Michael Bay? I don't like most of his movies but at least he comprehends good vs. evil.
If you wanted someone to helm it to get =me= going to see it, I'd pick John Carpenter. "Star Wars" is basically a Western and Carpenter has the right aesthetic for that...but I'm not sure he could pull off the "good" in "good vs. evil". Heh. But I go see it.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:42 PM (dhFCT)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:15 PM (2DOZq)
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Some of the most consistently funny writing ever, with constant callbacks to old seasons and jokes. The "alternate timelines" episode was terrific.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 09:36 PM (Dc2NZ)
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In the episode where Shirley gives birth, Abed mentions he had previously helped a woman give birth in the parking lot. And sure enough, in a previous episode, you see him doing just that, but it's off in the background, and never even mentioned until this episode.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:42 PM (CAJOC)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 05, 2020 09:38 PM (lgiXo)
The location or the show?
Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
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The show
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 05, 2020 09:42 PM (lgiXo)
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It's the beautiful location. It's 'Meh' otherwise. It's like watching a Travel Special but with murder. I doubt The Shetlands have, at best, 4 murders a year. If that show is accurate, nobody is left on that island. They've all killed each other.
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 05, 2020 09:43 PM (XrFbO)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 07:55 PM (Dc2NZ)
I get why people gripe about theaters, but consider me agreeing about the movie theater experience. When watching trailers, I determine which are worthy for a theater experience and I act accordingly. (As soon as I saw the trailers for MCMXVII I knew I wanted to see that in the theater and I am glad I did.) I'd hate to not have that experience anymore.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2020 09:43 PM (/0HPZ)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 09:43 PM (Dc2NZ)
Fired prior to 4th season and rehired for the 5th. It went for one more season .
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:43 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 05, 2020 09:43 PM (XrFbO)
Heh. This last episode I watched, I thought to myself, "why does this place need so many cops?"
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Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 09:45 PM (Dc2NZ)
That is so obvious it has probably already been done to death. So much for original thoughts.
You are now returned to your regular programming.
Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at December 05, 2020 09:45 PM (YwPJG)
Posted by: IC at December 05, 2020 09:38 PM (Nyumu)
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But the music...
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:39 PM (CAJOC)
Right? The oh-so-80s synth soundtrack was jarring and totally out of place.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 05, 2020 09:40 PM (nakwk)
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I never cared for the horse, either. The Tennessee Walking Horse has such a distinctive gait, it didn't really work as a soldier's horse.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at December 05, 2020 09:45 PM (CAJOC)
First - it's absurd to do *any* of this radical (and failed) experimental "mitigation" for a bug with an IFR of below 0.1% for most of the population.
Second - there is something to seeing certain movies in person, with a crowd - thrillers and comedies come to mind, mostly.
Third - I forget my last reason, but there was one. Maybe epics - yeah, they're not making anything like that now, but even seeing the old ones is great.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2020 09:46 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 07:55 PM (Dc2NZ)
I get why people gripe about theaters, but consider me agreeing about the movie theater experience. When watching trailers, I determine which are worthy for a theater experience and I act accordingly. (As soon as I saw the trailers for MCMXVII I knew I wanted to see that in the theater and I am glad I did.) I'd hate to not have that experience anymore.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2020 09:43 PM (/0HPZ)
Count me in, too. I like going to the movies.
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I'm in the minority, I guess, but of the prequels, "The Phantom Menace" was...the least awful? That is, it was squarely a kid's movie and (without hashing RLM's epic review) reasonably entertaining.
Five minutes into "Clone Wars" and I wanted to claw my eyes out. And "Sith" was just a loud, perfunctory mess. I stood in the doorway for about 45 seconds of "Skywalker" and saw the same horrible why-would-I-subject-myself-to-this-now-that-my-kids-are-grown sensory overload.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:46 PM (dhFCT)
Third - I forget my last reason, but there was one. Maybe epics - yeah, they're not making anything like that now, but even seeing the old ones is great.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2020 09:46 PM (OTzUX)
Imagine seeing The Exorcist for the first time, by yourself, and not in a movie theater.
Completely different experience...
Posted by: browndog at December 05, 2020 09:48 PM (BgMrQ)
Prison probably in his future.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:38 PM (2DOZq)
No, not this good yute what is just about to turn his life around by going to college and being a rap star.
They will ruing his life! Have him spend time with a social worker and don't give him a criminal sheet that will haunt him forever for one bad action. It isn't like anyone was killed.
Everyone, we must march for 88!
Posted by: The Left at December 05, 2020 09:48 PM (Ojki1)
I'm wracking what's left of my mind for movies, or TV series, to search for at the local library. The DVD thing is quite nice - don't have to buy it, get to enjoy it anyway.
My subject is pretty narrow - WWII documentary, or very select fictional. The obvious ones I either own or have thought of already (Patton, Das Boot, etc). Just ordered the Victory at Sea series.
Anyway, reminders/ideas welcome.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2020 09:48 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:49 PM (2DOZq)
>>Yeah, Empire was the peak. The Ewoks killed it for me. It became
a children's show. They fooled me twice with Jar-Jar and that all she
wrote.
I'm in the minority, I guess, but of the prequels, "The Phantom
Menace" was...the least awful? That is, it was squarely a kid's movie
and (without hashing RLM's epic review) reasonably entertaining.
Five minutes into "Clone Wars" and I wanted to claw my eyes out. And
"Sith" was just a loud, perfunctory mess. I stood in the doorway for
about 45 seconds of "Skywalker" and saw the same horrible
why-would-I-subject-myself-to-this-now-that-my-kids-are-grown sensory
overload.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:46 PM (dhFCT)
------------------------------------------------------The Clone Wars series....it gets really good by the 3rd season. The 6th season has a story arc about a clone finding out about the bio-chips in there heads that program them to turn against the jedi. It takes a hitchcockian turn.
Posted by: redchief at December 05, 2020 09:50 PM (Kab4E)
Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2020 09:50 PM (OTzUX)
I know Ace had a rant about how the theater experience doesn't give you anything but I find that EVERY movie is better in the theater, no matter how small-screened, small-minded, small-budgeted.
How much better is a matter of degrees. Horror movies are about 50-100% better. Light drama, romcoms, maybe only 15%. Broad comedies are probably up there with horror in terms of improvement.
Size matters. I can be alone in a theater and I'll get more out of it than I will watching on TV. Going out matters. Making that decision "I'm going to watch this come hell or high water" means you gotta commit.
Meh. I hate what they're doing to the world.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:51 PM (dhFCT)
Posted by: JROD at December 05, 2020 09:51 PM (0jZnq)
Of course movies like Rocky and the original Star Wars were best seen in a theater.
Posted by: Quint at December 05, 2020 09:51 PM (bPvlX)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 09:43 PM (Dc2NZ)
They did. From what I heard (and the sources were mocking so it could be wrong), Rey traveled to the past to teach characters like Luke how to use the Force.
Because really, why not try to outshout people calling her a Mary Sue by making her the most Mary Sue of all time?
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:52 PM (Ojki1)
Yeah, I've heard great things about Clone Wars. If it's Genndy Tartakovsky, I'd probably love it, but I watch very little TV.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:52 PM (dhFCT)
Made life easy.
Posted by: From that time at December 05, 2020 09:53 PM (aAQRl)
Second - there is something to seeing certain movies in person, with a crowd - thrillers and comedies come to mind, mostly.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2020 09:46 PM (OTzUX)
I get this. Years ago, my husband and I saw Men In Black when it first opened in theaters (yeah, get off my lawn)
We watched in NoVA, with a bunch of other government types, and were crying at the digs at government types - we all got it, we all experienced it, we all probably did it at some point. It was a wonderful time.
Now that I am 29, theater sound systems hurt my ears, so I don't enjoy them as much. But I mourn them for the entry level jobs for kids trying to earn a buck.
And the popcorn. Movie popcorn is unique.
Posted by: Moki at December 05, 2020 09:53 PM (+X9Vs)
Rocky Horror, too, but that's kind of in its own category.
Posted by: t-bird at December 05, 2020 09:54 PM (l0Lgi)
Posted by: Quint at December 05, 2020 09:54 PM (bPvlX)
Posted by: Rusty at December 05, 2020 09:54 PM (MrsVx)
Yeah, I've heard great things about Clone Wars. If it's Genndy Tartakovsky, I'd probably love it, but I watch very little TV.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:52 PM (dhFCT)
He's a hell of a lot better than Titti Watitti or whatever his fucking name is who fucked up the last episode of Season 1 of the Mandalorian.
Ahem.
I mean, yes, the Clone Wars are pretty good. They at least don't treat storm, er, clone troopers as idiots.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at December 05, 2020 09:54 PM (d1uFV)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:55 PM (2DOZq)
The Boy and I wandered into what was essentially a cast & crew showing of a Lifetime movie and enjoyed it. There's no way we'd sit through five minutes on TV.
https://moviegique.com/2014/08/expecting-amish/
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:56 PM (dhFCT)
Posted by: Moki at December 05, 2020 09:53 PM (+X9Vs)
Movie theater popcorn is the one food I have absolutely no self-control around. I will literally eat it until I get sick.
Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at December 05, 2020 09:57 PM (zNpyh)
Be back for ONT.
Posted by: Beatgirl at December 05, 2020 09:57 PM (a1s18)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 09:15 PM (2DOZq)
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Some of the most consistently funny writing ever, with constant callbacks to old seasons and jokes. The "alternate timelines" episode was terrific.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 09:36 PM (Dc2NZ)
^^Yes, my daughter and I binged Community and really enjoyed it. Agree - the writing was excellent.
Posted by: President-elect Iris at December 05, 2020 09:57 PM (6lKe4)
Movie theater popcorn is the one food I have absolutely no self-control around. I will literally eat it until I get sick.
Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at December 05, 2020 09:57 PM (zNpyh)
Fist bump.
Posted by: Moki at December 05, 2020 09:58 PM (+X9Vs)
Posted by: Quint at December 05, 2020 09:58 PM (bPvlX)
WTF kinda name is that?
Even spell check thinks it sucks.
Baby Yoda is what I'll go with for now.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2020 09:58 PM (axyOa)
Need to even stop thinking about this.
It's so infuriating - and scary.
A county (populace, institutions) that will inflict so much needless harm on itself based on no real science or data will ..... be very vulnerable to efforts to impose catastrophic damage for "climate" purposes.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2020 09:58 PM (OTzUX)
Working now? Man, I used to know all the up-and-coming directors and who was good or promising but there aren't many these days that stand out. The volume's too high.
That said, I hear good thing about Favreau's work on "The Mandalorian" and I've been a fan of his and, uh, Peter Berg's for a while. They probably have the most feel for the material. Or maybe Michael Bay? I don't like most of his movies but at least he comprehends good vs. evil.
If you wanted someone to helm it to get =me= going to see it, I'd pick John Carpenter. "Star Wars" is basically a Western and Carpenter has the right aesthetic for that...but I'm not sure he could pull off the "good" in "good vs. evil". Heh. But I go see it.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:42 PM (dhFCT)
I wonder if someone like Denis Villeneuve could pull it off.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 09:58 PM (hku12)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 09:58 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: Moki at December 05, 2020 09:53 PM (+X9Vs)
Movie theater popcorn is the one food I have absolutely no self-control around. I will literally eat it until I get sick.
Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at December 05, 2020 09:57 PM (zNpyh)
Lucky or not, this is one of the tastes chemo killed for me and that has not returned.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:59 PM (Ojki1)
Now they're doing RP2. It's hilarious. Even more so for me, since after reading RP1 I felt I never needed to read anything by Ernest Cline ever again, so I get all of the podcast-y goodness and none of the craptacular writing.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 09:59 PM (dhFCT)
I really like the 'tall ships' movies- Master and Commander, The Bounty, Moby Dick...
there must always be a 'going 'round the Horn' scene, of course
Posted by: DB- just DB. at December 05, 2020 09:59 PM (iTXRQ)
Popcorn - coconut oil and good butter, right?
Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2020 10:00 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 10:01 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: Jim S. at December 05, 2020 10:01 PM (ynUnH)
Lucky or not, this is one of the tastes chemo killed for me and that has not returned.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:59 PM (Ojki1)
Bete, I am really sorry about the chemo. I hope it worked and you are in complete remission and can enjoy other things besides movie popcorn. Prayers if you need 'em.
Posted by: Moki at December 05, 2020 10:01 PM (+X9Vs)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 05, 2020 10:02 PM (Dc2NZ)
Oh, that's a great choice, at least in terms of getting something watchable and even sort of thoughtful.
But the thing is, "Star Wars" was what it was because we were coming out of that "everything is shades of gray" era of filmmaking. There were ONLY antiheroes and despair and trivialities (scatalogical stuff).
Then here comes of a movie with bad guys storming around doing evil and heroes trying to stop them and even the antihero is more a lovable rogue than a bad guy and blammo! People start going to the movies again.
So Villaneuve is incredibly talented but could he pull off a genuine, comic-book good vs evil struggle? I look at movies like the DC universe ones and they just seem to force something that is definitionally black-and-white into a shades of gray mold.
And I really don't care for it. As someone who sees a shitton of "gray" art movies, I hate that I have to go to effin' Korea to see a fun "good vs evil" storyline.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 10:03 PM (dhFCT)
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 05, 2020 10:04 PM (2DOZq)
I've never seen it, and probably never will.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 05, 2020 08:39 PM (hku12)
It's an action movie with some hot chicks. I don't think chicks necessarily would be drawn to it as much as guys.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 05, 2020 10:05 PM (l6b3d)
Movie popcorn: I of course gorge on the stuff. I once lost 20 pounds by NOT eating it for a month. lol
At home, I use lard. So good.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 10:05 PM (dhFCT)
It seems like most of the beauties were: Landis, Gene Tierny, Lupe Velez, Veronica Lake, Rita Hayworth, etc. etc. etc.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 10:06 PM (dhFCT)
I will escape of course...
Posted by: Nightwatch at December 05, 2020 10:08 PM (u1WYs)
Lawrence Kasdan recognizing he could basically re-write his Star Wars script and Abrams adding in a bunch of "mystery box with no planned payoff" shit that he is famous for to blend in a healthy bit of nostalgia for the original film.
For people who felt the film needed to be just a update for a new generation it seemed to go over great. For people wanting something else...no so much.
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 08:37 PM (Ojki1)
Mr. Abrams is all glitz, zero substance.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2020 10:13 PM (/0HPZ)
I miss the movies. I hate politicians for ruining everything good and fun. I hope Hollywood goes broke and most of the celebrities are ruined for life. The celebs have been willful participants of this idiocy and they deserve every bad thing that comes to them.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 05, 2020 10:13 PM (FzYC+)
I'm sure I'll be back in the middle of the night. Be well.
Posted by: Farmer at December 05, 2020 10:15 PM (uEauf)
Before that, he did "Cindarella Man" which pissed me off and really put me off him. He slurred Max Baer horribly, and Baer's family was reasonably upset.
Oh, also, "A Beautiful Mind" also kind of pissed me off because the real game theory didn't support their leftist views, so they just changed it.
Posted by: moviegique at December 05, 2020 08:47 PM (dhFCT)
I did rather like Opie's work on Apollo 13.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2020 10:18 PM (/0HPZ)
Posted by: Bete at December 05, 2020 09:17 PM (Ojki1)
Quickly? I remember seeing that dreadful cartoon in February 1986!
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 05, 2020 10:26 PM (/0HPZ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at December 05, 2020 08:29 PM
I've seen references to it here and around and some clips, but I didn't have any context for the story, and now I do.
I've basically decided to do rentals from Amazon, so I can see if I like a movie enough to buy a copy.
I couldn't get the DVD drive to read the "The Natural" DVD, so no movie tonight. Alas.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at December 05, 2020 10:44 PM (qDSku)
(bet no one finds reads this, oh well
) Posted by: ziggggyeeee at December 05, 2020 11:28 PM (AsMdZ)
Can I get a title for this? Or did I miss it in the article?
Thanks!
Posted by: MW at December 06, 2020 12:08 AM (gWtVa)
I did see this and you're absolutely right! Menjou was the big name and he's actually a fairly minor part of the film.
Posted by: moviegique at December 06, 2020 11:34 AM (dhFCT)
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