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Was the Corporate Parent of Dominion Voting Systems Bought By... China?
And Just in October?

Plus: New whistleblowers allege first-hand witness of voter fraud.

Including this allegation of 388,000 ballots, either improperly counted or improperly not counted, in Wisconsin.

Several whistleblowers on Tuesday cast new uncertainty on the 2020 election process, claiming up to 288,000 ballots disappeared, another 100,000 were improperly backdated, and mail promoting President Trump was junked while mail for Joe Biden was delivered.

In the most extraordinary report, a U.S. Postal Service contractor said his trailer full of 144,000-288,000 completed mail-in ballots, which he drove between New York and Pennsylvania, disappeared after he delivered it to a Lancaster, Pennsylvania, depot.

Another claimed that ballots were backdated by postal workers, and in Traverse City, Michigan, Trump campaign mail was put in bins labeled “Undeliverable Bulk Business Mail” while the same type of mail for Joe Biden was ordered to be delivered on time.

And a third raised new issues about the integrity of Dominion voting machines.

The claims were unveiled by the Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society, which has mounted an independent investigation of voting and voter registration in several key battleground states. It recently made headlines by revealing that the FBI has requested the findings of its Voter Integrity Project.

Corporate-sponsored Democrat webzine National Review is calling for a surrender to voter fraud, because, well, they're aligned with the party that defrauded the election, and increasingly funded by that party:

Meanwhile, Sydney Powell is retweeting people demanding that Trump impose martial law, and Lin Wood is talking about a civil war.

And I don't disagree with them.

I don't think these things are likely -- but they are morally justified.

The Democrats, the media, the tech monoplists and mind-controllers, and their allies on the corporate pseudoright have ended democracy.

I don't see any need to pretend it still exists myself.

YOLO.

Posted by: Ace at 05:15 PM




Comments

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1 At least we know their game... call the software Dominion.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at December 01, 2020 05:15 PM (gtatv)

2 But AG Barr said "NO FRAUD, YOU RUBES!"

Posted by: Iblis at December 01, 2020 05:15 PM (abOpZ)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:15 PM (Zz0t1)

4 Number TWO!!

Posted by: Your Big Wet President at December 01, 2020 05:16 PM (P4sqS)

5 I find no fraud!!!

Posted by: Bagpipes Bill Barr at December 01, 2020 05:17 PM (Zmnko)

6 No evidence, conspiracy theorists........

this'll never see the light of day except amongst us.

Posted by: JROD at December 01, 2020 05:17 PM (0jZnq)

7

This thread is going to give BiNO the vapors.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2020 05:17 PM (aQqRN)

8 Hey, no fraud that will totally never happen in the future. So give us money, rubes...er, we meant Republicans, or the Dems will rule everything.

Posted by: GOP at December 01, 2020 05:17 PM (Ojki1)

9 Nothing to see here folks, move along.

/MSM and DNC

Posted by: Shibumi, praying for America at December 01, 2020 05:18 PM (ZCiJZ)

10 Gosh, those whistle blowers are brave and patriotic.

Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect at December 01, 2020 05:18 PM (a0IVu)

11 9 Nothing to see here folks, move along.

/MSM and DNC
Posted by: Shibumi, praying for America at December 01, 2020 05:18 PM (ZCiJZ)

Don't leave us out.

Posted by: Fox News and GOP at December 01, 2020 05:19 PM (Ojki1)

12 I've been assured by, um, one moron here that this is a crazy conspiracy theory.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:19 PM (ifmtJ)

13 Talk about target rich environment.

Posted by: Iblis at December 01, 2020 05:19 PM (abOpZ)

14 7. Groovy

Posted by: CN at December 01, 2020 05:19 PM (ONvIw)

15 Durham will come!

Posted by: blaster at December 01, 2020 05:19 PM (ZfRYq)

16 I've been told that this is just bullshit like what they used to connect Trump to Putin and that all banks are owned by China anyway so this means nothing.



Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 05:19 PM (JWCyv)

17 This is so unbelievably sad and disgusting. The Dems truly only care about power and control.

And almost 1/2 of the country is totally OK with this.

Posted by: Czech Chick at December 01, 2020 05:19 PM (haWye)

18 The evidence seems OVERWHELMING.

If this actually is allowed to stand, we'll never have a free and fair election (like we have in a long time, but) ever again.

We're done.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:19 PM (Zz0t1)

19 9 Nothing to see here folks, move along.

/MSM and DNC

Yeah.. The media is all ready running with "DOJ finds no fraud."

Posted by: It's me donna at December 01, 2020 05:19 PM (Zmnko)

20 On the Sirius Patriot channel the Mark Levin is on. the 4pm news guy said Trump wont concede and even though he has no evidence of voter fraud. Even the Patriot channel is doing it.

Posted by: Big Alfredo at December 01, 2020 05:20 PM (Vdukr)

21 15 enough of that shit. Rudy should have been AG

Posted by: CN at December 01, 2020 05:20 PM (ONvIw)

22 I'm making a list.
You should all do the same.

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at December 01, 2020 05:20 PM (w7KSn)

23 It's 2020, man. Anything is plausible at this point.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 01, 2020 05:20 PM (IewtT)

24 GOPe: "Hey rubes, don't forget to give money to the GOPe senators in Georgia. It's important."

Posted by: Eddie Baby at December 01, 2020 05:20 PM (wpJDK)

25 I'll say again, if this fraud is allowed to stand, then we have an Oligarchy, not a Republic.

And our options will be to fight against those who stole the election, and who allowed it to be stolen, or to kneel in submission forever.

The time is coming. Two weeks until the Electoral College meets.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:20 PM (ifmtJ)

26 Is the media still call it all "unverified?" Or are they simply ignoring it entirely?

I don't know, because I stopped watching them back in April. But I am moderately curious as to how the Lester Holt / Chuck Todd / Andrea Mitchell gang is spinning this.

Posted by: reason, no longer part of the Trump legal team, at December 01, 2020 05:20 PM (CGjum)

27 You know, if there was only one whistle blower you could say, nah, all made up. Okay, even if there was only two or three. But when you have so many testimonies from people in different states, ordinary people, surely you must start to wonder..wait a minute..all these people cannot be lying.

Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect at December 01, 2020 05:20 PM (a0IVu)

28 At least we know their game... call the software Dominion.
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at December 01, 2020 05:15 PM (gtatv)

Well, the Chinese CAN say it without butchering it too bad.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:21 PM (Zz0t1)

29 Willowed:

It's false. UBS brokered an investment transaction in Staple Street Capital, that's why they're listed on the Form D. But hey, Gateway Pundit got another click!
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 01, 2020 04:07 PM (CQ3Qb)

By the way, as broker dealer, and filling out the form D exemption, you are telling the SEC that the securities are real, you know or represent that the securities as real, that the company is not some illegal entity and is properly represented as legal (ie not some secret shell organization for a communist country, in other words). Its not as everyday as some might think, there are consequences if Dominion turns out to be wholly owned by a communist country and that was not represented to the buyer in the transaction. So, it might be fine, it might be problematic depending on where these allegations against Dominion go in the next year or two.

Posted by: Boswell at December 01, 2020 05:21 PM (w2LAm)

30 24 GOPe: "Hey rubes, don't forget to give money to the GOPe senators in Georgia. It's important."

Why?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 01, 2020 05:21 PM (Zmnko)

31 Not even a smidgen.

Posted by: wth at December 01, 2020 05:21 PM (v0R5T)

32 The time is coming. Two weeks until the Electoral College meets.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:20 PM (ifmtJ)

But only one week until the safe harbor date.

Tick tock.

Posted by: blaster at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (ZfRYq)

33


Hmm, those tweets seem to be not coming up for me, but his page does.

He just mentioned it.

How odd!

LMAO

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (lg/F7)

34 30 not one dime

Posted by: CN at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (ONvIw)

35 I don't know, because I stopped watching them back in April. But I am moderately curious as to how the Lester Holt / Chuck Todd / Andrea Mitchell gang is spinning this.

Posted by: reason, no longer part of the Trump legal team, at December 01, 2020 05:20 PM (CGjum)

Andre Mitchell is being attacked for daring to question the transparency of Biden's incoming administration. I had a good laugh. Old bat is being put out to pasture.

Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (a0IVu)

36 I agree with ace here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (/DVkD)

37 As much as I want to be "One of the good ones" and not be one of these conservatives that jumps into every fever swamp, I really can't dismiss that it sure looks like fraud way above and beyond what we're used to and an overarching conspiracy.

I guess what's disappointing is the legal and PR effort from Trump's camp just seems very amateur and everyone is not on the same page.

Also, if Dominion really is the source of this fraud, why has Trump basically farmed it out and not made that his center piece?

Posted by: Blago at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (gkdnV)

38
WTF?

GA already has 1 Million Absentee Ballot requests for the Runoff.

Unfuckingbelievable.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (/xqqO)

39 Sorry to reveal it to you all on this site, but Barr's meeting with your Trump was just to inform him that the "sting" didn't work, for China knew in advance and was too smart.

Posted by: Ping from Guoanbu > Bob from NSA at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (BBWrU)

40 One quick note - a purchase of Dominion in October likely had little immediate effect on what happened. Fraud on this scale would be planned out well in advance, and not be a spur of the moment thing.

Posted by: junior at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (t7M1v)

41 Slightly incorrect. So the $400M commitment is for Staple Street Capital's second fund. The Chinese government owned branch of UBS is likely not the investor but representing unknown Chinese investors. Whoever funded their second fund, without any apparent fundraise, also presumably funded their first fund, which is the fund that owns Dominion.

Afaik Dominion was not sold by the fund that Staple Street Capital is running.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 01, 2020 05:23 PM (Zm+LZ)

42 Yeah.. The media is all ready running with "DOJ finds no fraud."
Posted by: It's me donna

What did I read about Barr's statements?
There was some fraud.
There wasn't *enough* fraud to change the outcome.

What happened to 'one man one vote'?
If fraud was found in AZ then I (in AZ) have been denied representation by this fraud.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at December 01, 2020 05:23 PM (gtatv)

43 I've taken the oath, like many here, a couple of times, "enemies foreign and domestic"

I don't owe the institutions anything--my oath was to the Constitution.
Not the offices seized by a hostile enemy.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 01, 2020 05:23 PM (aO8Gd)

44 Many of us knows what needs to be done but we just can't say it.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 01, 2020 05:23 PM (Ywny1)

45 All votes tabulated by Dominion should be thrown out and their board of directors should stand trial in the US.
It's that simple.

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at December 01, 2020 05:23 PM (w7KSn)

46 7 This thread is going to give BiNO the vapors.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2020 05:17 PM (aQqRN)


Why? I've said all along that I'm open to evidence.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 01, 2020 05:23 PM (CQ3Qb)

47 There is no doubt that Republicans have been in on this from the beginning. That said, why is the conservative blogosphere still telling us to buck up and keep voting Republican because you have no choice.

You always have choices.

Posted by: csmats at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (X5VFN)

48 Hey!

which one of you fucks stole my bag of dicks!?!?!?!?

Posted by: mitt romney at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (GIeIM)

49 Give us the real truth BINO

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (/6GbT)

50 So, you're saying I should have bought that gun I saw today? And more ammo..of course.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (nxdel)

51 And the wind cried, "Dominion."

Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (hku12)

52
Unless you're stupid (like a "Republican"), you'll recognize that literally everyone and their brother, from everywhere, is requesting an Absentee Ballot for the GA Runoff.

How many will be accepted?
Why, 100%, of course. No questions asked.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (/xqqO)

53 40 So they planned it, then wrote the check. Timing isn't anything here. Besides they had loaned plenty of cash to Dominion using the security programs as collateral

Posted by: CN at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (ONvIw)

54 WTF?

GA already has 1 Million Absentee Ballot requests for the Runoff.

Unfuckingbelievable.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (/xqqO)

And the address is to the Georgia Dome for the "fill out your ballot party," probably.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (Zz0t1)

55 This is so unbelievably sad and disgusting. The Dems truly only care about power and control.

And almost 1/2 of the country is totally OK with this.
Posted by: Czech Chick at December 01, 2020 05:19 PM (haWye)


I honestly think that the population's sheep-like obedience to these arbitrary COVID edicts taught the Democrats they could get away with anything.

And they are.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (guGkK)

56 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy and Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (22mNy)

57 Wouldn't doubt it if you told me it was.
Heard on radio ( before it konked out and wont play or pick up my phone) a Dominion employee, and a employee of Kameltoe was working ballots and computer in Georgia election day.and was not a county employee.

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (9sWOw)

58 "Fill out A ballot Party."

My bad.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:25 PM (Zz0t1)

59 I said before the election that the dems had 4 years to get ready for this and I knew it would be massive cheating and was worried. But I never dreamed how massive it became.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2020 05:25 PM (r+sAi)

60 GOPe: "Hey rubes, don't forget to give money to the GOPe senators in Georgia. It's important."


It's important to make sure that the China-owned candidates get elected instead of the China-owned candidates.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 05:25 PM (JWCyv)

61
There is no doubt that Republicans have been in on this from the beginning. That said, why is the conservative blogosphere still telling us to buck up and keep voting Republican because you have no choice.

You always have choices.
Posted by: csmats at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (X5VFN)

--------

Indeed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2020 05:25 PM (BvLWD)

62
I'm tempted to request a GA absentee ballot just to see what happens.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 01, 2020 05:25 PM (/xqqO)

63 WTF?



GA already has 1 Million Absentee Ballot requests for the Runoff.



Unfuckingbelievable.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (/xqqO)


Tank Abrams:It's all legit. Trust me.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2020 05:25 PM (aQqRN)

64 Joe Stalin has voted himself President and his little band of Mao children mean to make us kneel to them.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (aO8Gd)

65 Remember those days when an oblique reference to the Tree of Liberty would draw an instant banhammer?

Times change.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (guGkK)

66 Let's fill Gitmo. And Leavenworth. And San Quentin.

Maybe an Atoll in the pacific would be nice as well.

Posted by: clutch cargo now with 12% more FUCKITOL at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (8B6Ng)

67 50 So, you're saying I should have bought that gun I saw today? And more ammo..of course.
Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (nxdel)

Yes'm

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (ifmtJ)

68 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against
everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy
and Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Asshoes

heh

Posted by: Officer Paddy O'Irony at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (JWCyv)

69 Easiest way to break the FoxNews habit and cut the cord is with Pluto.TV.

Pluto.TV (which is free) has:
NewsMax, channel 236
Blaze: Channel 238
The First: Channel 244
There are multiple right-wing sites now that provide live TV news during the day. You can go to their site or watch them on a Roku or other streaming device. You can watch them on your computer or TV or phone. You don't need FoxNews to get live breaking TV news. There's NewsMax, Blaze, The First, InfoWars, One America News and more.
OANN is the only one that doesn't provide some kind of free streaming service. The rest you can usually find an easy way to watch them for free.

Posted by: BoycottFoxNews at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (WabP6)

70 And China could fuck up a wet dream

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (ifmtJ)

71 A "Gaylord" box?

Did SCOAMF get in there?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (wGxSf)

72 One quick note - a purchase of Dominion in October likely had little immediate effect on what happened. Fraud on this scale would be planned out well in advance, and not be a spur of the moment thing.
Posted by: junior at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (t7M1v)


You know, if I'm going to rob a bank, and I don't purchase the getaway car, a zippy sportscar that'll let me outmaneuver the cops, until the day before the heist is to happen, it wouldn't be true to say the car had little to do with the operation.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:27 PM (hku12)

73 65 Remember those days when an oblique reference to the Tree of Liberty would draw an instant banhammer?

Times change.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (guGkK)

*pours one out for D-Lamp*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:27 PM (ifmtJ)

74 Fuhgettaboutit

Posted by: Don Minion at December 01, 2020 05:27 PM (MIsHM)

75

56 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy and Sidney Powell.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (22mNy)

Sadly, this is all too true...he cut his own fucking throat, and that's not forgivable.

Also, why did he never do anything about the destruction of the cities, that continues...I know, rules legalities etc, but they are still part of the US. He did jackshit about it.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 01, 2020 05:27 PM (lg/F7)

76 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against
everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy
and Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Asshoes

Yeah.....because being a nutless, spine free squish has gotten us SO FUCKING FAR.

We ELECTED him to be Donald Fucking Trump and that's what we got.

It's not his fault the rest of the GOP sucks donkey dicks.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:28 PM (Zz0t1)

77 Saying Dominion is like saying Betelgeuse 3 times, say it and BEANO shows up to defend them.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2020 05:28 PM (r+sAi)

78 The only way my MI legislature seats R electors is if a bunch of us, and I mean thousands, show up armed. It seems that intimidation is the only thing that works.
I did not see one thing today about tossing out the Wayne County votes. Their bullshit has gone on way too long.

Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2020 05:28 PM (9UmRs)

79 Is there any authentic Chinese food in New Orleans?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 01, 2020 05:28 PM (wGxSf)

80 UBS Sec LTD (that Chinese connection) acted as a broker dealer here, they owned the securities only briefly (actually simultaneously) prior to selling them under their license...but they'd be in defiance of the license if they knew that Dominion was owned or being controlled by entities not listed in the form D filing.

Other than that discovery - the transaction looks normal - well, other than Dominion picking this firm to buy/sell their securities...they're not really a fit, one would suggest, for a South Asia BD.

Posted by: Boswell at December 01, 2020 05:28 PM (w2LAm)

81 The time is coming. Two weeks until the Electoral College meets.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:20 PM (ifmtJ)

But only one week until the safe harbor date.

Tick tock.
Posted by: blaster at December 01, 2020 05:22 PM (ZfR


Laws, policies, and traditional schedules can be overlooked. And I believe Trump intends to do just that until this fraud can be resolved.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 01, 2020 05:29 PM (Ywny1)

82

this is not the hill to die on

Posted by: Paul Ryan at December 01, 2020 05:29 PM (GIeIM)

83 Dear Rube, errr I mean super patriotic freedom loving American,

Please send $100 ASAP in order to fight for (insert cause) here. Time is running out we only have (insert number here) days left before Democrats take away your right to (insert cause here).

Act now. And if you donate before midnight tonight we will match your donation by 500%.

Your truly,
(Insert conservative name here)

Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:29 PM (22mNy)

84 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against
everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy
and Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Asshoes

heh
Posted by: Officer Paddy O'Irony at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (JWCyv)


No really, it's true. Trump could have gave a big fat F You to the people who voted for him, slipped into bed with the corrupt pricks who run bartertown, and they surely would have let him keep his job.

What an idiot he was.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (hku12)

85 BUt, but Kristin Fischer says there's no fraud

Posted by: Avi at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (dHrq/)

86 At this point, comrade, what difference does it make?
Once the fist is in, what's the difference between wrist and elbow?

Posted by: Commisar of Diversity and Crisco at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (2+XF3)

87
If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against everyone, maybe he'd
have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy and Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (22mNy)


(looks at all of the RINO knives in Trump's back) Yeah it was Trump.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (aQqRN)

88 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against everyone, maybe he'd
have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy and Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (22mNy)



Sadly, this is all too true...he cut his own fucking throat, and that's not forgivable.



Also, why did he never do anything about the destruction of the
cities, that continues...I know, rules legalities etc, but they are
still part of the US. He did jackshit about it.



No matter what Trump did he was wrong. If he tried to stop the destruction of the cities, the mayors/governors/senators/ congresscritters would have screamed even louder. NOTHING he could do was right in their eyes. That is the case today as well.

As for allies... EVERYONE was against him. His own party hates him. How can you forge alliances with people who hate you? If he aligned himself with the Deep State, he would have screwed over the people who voted for him.

Posted by: Shibumi, praying for America at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (ZCiJZ)

89 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy and Sidney Powell.
Posted by: Asshoes

______________

Unfortunately, this is true.

Like I distinctly remember the Gov of GA opening things up a bit early from Covid and Trump decided to blast him and call him reckless to score points.

That absolutely played into why the Governor has barely lifted a finger to help.

Trump seemed to know how to cut deals with the base, but never fellow lawmakers.

Posted by: Blago at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (gkdnV)

90 When dr balsey ford created her bold face lies.... the whole world stopped, rapt with her brave story of go gurrl. But scores of people come out and say I saw it with my own eyes and here is the proof.... oh you destroyed the ballots.........I think that admiral guy who says "this is gonna get out of control and we'll be lucky to get out of this alive"might need to say his piece.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (9dzlp)

91 Laws, policies, and traditional schedules can be overlooked. And I believe Trump intends to do just that until this fraud can be resolved.
Posted by: Justsayin' at December 01, 2020 05:29 PM (Ywny1)

Well if the laws don't matter and all...

Posted by: blaster at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (ZfRYq)

92 If this is true, it is a game changer.


However, this is the first thing I have seen about china owning the voting machine company. And the tweet contains the words "we believe".


2 week rule invoked.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (JUOKG)

93 Why do you write to President Trump, Mr. Asshoes, because I doubt he reads here, and you are more and more sounding either like an Eeyore or a troll-and really-who uses "Asshoes" as their nic if they want to be taken seriously?
I have yet to read anything positive you have said about Trump. Maybe I missed that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (WkPC9)

94 Trump's executive order action expires on 12-18. What are his lawyers doing besides failure theater hearings? I'm ready to take to the streets.

Posted by: Valiant at December 01, 2020 05:31 PM (3MiF8)

95
LOL, who the fuck was Trump supposed to leave the earth unscorched around? Who are these "secret white hats" to whom he should have endeared himself?

If I have a single serious complaint against the man, it's that he didn't see the score in 2017 and just go nuclear on everyone around him. Fire everything with a pulse, and nominate horses and cows and chickens to replace them. Make the Senate vote on it.

They're all self-dealing statists with no guts and fewer principles. If he'd recognized early on that the fix was in, he might have been able to make it more of a "statement" Presidency.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2020 05:31 PM (BvLWD)

96 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy and Sidney Powell.
Posted by: Asshoes

Interesting perspective... I see he was dumped rather than being the person who ran 'scorched' earth.
Take another look at 2016-18... House, Senate, and Trump and they didn't get a *damn* thing done.

But the GOP shoved McCain down AZ's throats again.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at December 01, 2020 05:31 PM (gtatv)

97 @38
And Stacey Abrams group has over 750k of them banked and counting.


Hey you know what's illegal in GA?

Vote harvesting.

You know what Stacey Abrams group is doing?

I look forward to all of the shocked faces when I tell you she's vote harvesting and the GA GOP is doing nothing to stop her.

Maybe Barr can add this to Durhams work load.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 01, 2020 05:31 PM (htI5H)

98 Where is Brian in NO to guide us?

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at December 01, 2020 05:31 PM (IYHxL)

99 Yeah it's Trump's fault that Georgia GOP is bought and paid for by the fucking ChiComs.


Go with that.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 05:31 PM (JWCyv)

100 93-Meant "Why DON'T you write.."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 01, 2020 05:32 PM (WkPC9)

101
But the GOP shoved McCain down AZ's throats again.
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at December 01, 2020 05:31 PM (gtatv)

I hope that scumbags GBM was slowly painful

Posted by: Avi at December 01, 2020 05:32 PM (dHrq/)

102 Once the fist is in, what's the difference between wrist and elbow?
Posted by: Commisar of Diversity and Crisco at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (2+XF3)

About 12 to 18 inches, depending.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:32 PM (Zz0t1)

103 Hope the Senate stays Republican. At least they do block a lot of nonsense. They're still almost worthless.

Maybe a complete Democrat regime at this point in history might finally make people realize how really bad they are and all their ideas.

But probably not. Because some of the things they're going to try are going to be deadly. If they make laws about guns that require registration or similar they're going to have the same thing CT and NY and NJ have already which is people disobeying the law and not registering.

The states have let it go. They know they can't do much without stirring up a real sh*tstorm. But with Biden in? Who knows what they'll do.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 01, 2020 05:32 PM (z0px1)

104 Where are the nude Chinese girls?

Posted by: Max Power at December 01, 2020 05:32 PM (q177U)

105
The only way my MI legislature seats R electors is if a bunch of us, and
I mean thousands, show up armed. It seems that intimidation is the
only thing that works.

I did not see one thing today about tossing out the Wayne County votes. Their bullshit has gone on way too long.

Is there such a thing as "Bikers for Trump?" Or "Gun Owners for Trump?" How about "MI Militia Guys for Trump?" These are all people that should be invited to a get together in MI on a Friday, when everyone is in session.
/just saying

Posted by: Shibumi, praying for America at December 01, 2020 05:33 PM (ZCiJZ)

106
I look forward to all of the shocked faces when I tell you she's vote harvesting and the GA GOP is doing nothing to stop her.

See? Trump should have cut deals with Tank to make the fraud less visible and more efficient. Trump's fault.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 05:33 PM (JWCyv)

107 94 Trump's executive order action expires on 12-18. What are his lawyers doing besides failure theater hearings? I'm ready to take to the streets.
Posted by: Valiant at December 01, 2020 05:31 PM (3MiF

The hearings serve the purpose of putting before the public that the election was fraudulently stolen by the DNC.

Separate from the legal cases, it puts out the moral case for taking to the streets and more.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:33 PM (ifmtJ)

108 Where is Brian in NO to guide us?
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at December 01, 2020 05:31 PM (IYHxL)

Give it a minute......

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:34 PM (Zz0t1)

109 56 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy and Sidney Powell.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (22mNy)

No. The minute he pursued an America First policy he had no allies in this or any fight. Trump is an existential threat to trillions of dollars, tremendous power and control that has been solidifying for the past 30 years and inhabits all of DC and our major corporate institutions (and many private ones).

Posted by: Keith at December 01, 2020 05:34 PM (jdGlx)

110
No matter what Trump did he was wrong. If he tried to stop the destruction of the cities, the mayors/governors/senators/ congresscritters would have screamed even louder. NOTHING he could do was right in their eyes. That is the case today as well.

As for allies... EVERYONE was against him. His own party hates him. How can you forge alliances with people who hate you? If he aligned himself with the Deep State, he would have screwed over the people who voted for him.
Posted by: Shibumi, praying for America at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (ZCiJZ)

The Antifa types wanted a Kent State

Posted by: Avi at December 01, 2020 05:34 PM (dHrq/)

111 56 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy and Sidney Powell.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (22mNy)

Sadly, this is all too true...he cut his own fucking throat, and that's not forgivable.

Also, why did he never do anything about the destruction of the cities, that continues...I know, rules legalities etc, but they are still part of the US. He did jackshit about it.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 01, 2020 05:27 PM (lg/F7)


Seriously people, how dense are you.

He didn't "do anything" about the cities because he was told straight up, if he ordered the military to go in, he was going to have the military tell him to go fuck himself.

You seem to think the man was going to just snap his fingers and get things done, without even remotely considering that FOR THE PAST FOUR FUCKING YEARS he's been in a war against establishment Washington.

Grow up or shut up.

Either way, stop saying stupid things.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:34 PM (hku12)

112 The only way Trump could have made allies in Washington is by making deals and compromises that we would have hated him for. I can't say I fault him for not doing that.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 01, 2020 05:34 PM (H5knJ)

113 Deep Sate: "Know your place, serf!"

Me: "Keep it up, and I'll acquaint you people with rule .308."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:34 PM (WEBkv)

114 @72
You know, if I'm going to rob a bank, and I don't purchase the
getaway car, a zippy sportscar that'll let me outmaneuver the cops,
until the day before the heist is to happen, it wouldn't be true to say
the car had little to do with the operation.
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A better comparison would be if it were a high performance sports car that needed a specially configured engine that you just "coincidentally" happened to buy the day of the heist.
My point is that the Chinese didn't buy Dominion in October, and then set the machines to throw the election. The purchase is effectively irrelevant to what happened, as everything - including the voting software - was probably prepped at least a year ago. And the same thing would have happened even if the $400,000,000 transaction were set to take place tommorrow instead of in October as it actually did.

Posted by: junior at December 01, 2020 05:34 PM (t7M1v)

115 That truck driver loved his trailer. I hope he didn't name it Brad.

Posted by: f'd at December 01, 2020 05:35 PM (+y8uL)

116 Deep Sate?

Deep State

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:35 PM (WEBkv)

117 Are you saying that National Topsider (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII, Pub.) is calling for a surrender to the Democrats?


(It probably sounded great in the original French).

Posted by: Mikey NTH - See The Outrage Outlet for A Piece of Mind! at December 01, 2020 05:36 PM (0QYMt)

118 I did not see one thing today about tossing out the Wayne County votes. Their bullshit has gone on way too long.
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That's the other reason I gave up watching

The one fat-head white guy was all thundering about how they can only pass laws, that these people need to turn their evidence over to the police.

And then the rest acting like this is the first time anyone has heard of fraud in Detroit and how very shocked they are.

Testimony over and over: "They broke the laws"
MI GOP: "What laws can we pass so they won't break the law again?!"

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 01, 2020 05:36 PM (aO8Gd)

119 I don't blame Trump, I blame all the traitorous shitstains that infest all levels of government

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 01, 2020 05:36 PM (/6GbT)

120 This should be easy to answer right? Ask Dominion, on the record for the top 5 stakeholders, and compare that to IRS records from those individuals so if this is crazy bananas conspiracy stuff you can quash it getting an official answer.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 01, 2020 05:36 PM (qlFIA)

121 Slightly incorrect. So the $400M commitment is for Staple Street Capital's second fund. The Chinese government owned branch of UBS is likely not the investor but representing unknown Chinese investors. Whoever funded their second fund, without any apparent fundraise, also presumably funded their first fund, which is the fund that owns Dominion.

Afaik Dominion was not sold by the fund that Staple Street Capital is running.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 01, 2020 05:23 PM (Zm+LZ)

This seems right given what we know - UBS placed the securities to the fund and filed the form D - it wasn't selling Dominion or investing it. Whether all these transactions are nefarious is not something I think anyone here on this blog can ascertain given the limited things we know.

Posted by: Boswell at December 01, 2020 05:36 PM (w2LAm)

122 Seriously people, how dense are you.

He didn't "do anything" about the cities because he was told straight up, if he ordered the military to go in, he was going to have the military tell him to go fuck himself.

Well, that and it would've been political suicide for him.

Ordering American troops to attack Americans would've lead to the DICTATOR label a bit more firmly.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:36 PM (Zz0t1)

123
Is the rally in GA still a go?
Where will it be?

Will attendance be limited?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 01, 2020 05:36 PM (/xqqO)

124 The Antifa types wanted a Kent State
Posted by: Avi at December 01, 2020 05:34 PM (dHrq/)

In fairness, I wanted that too. Or something....bigger

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:37 PM (ifmtJ)

125 Over 100, so, reference to last thread:

"If history is any guide, the audience will gradually 'come home', in the words of one Fox executive"


Sure, keep thinking that.

Posted by: Sears & Roebuck at December 01, 2020 05:37 PM (1vynn)

126 I'll say again, if this fraud is allowed to stand, then we have an Oligarchy, not a Republic.

And our options will be to fight against those who stole the election, and who allowed it to be stolen, or to kneel in submission forever.
The time is coming. Two weeks until the Electoral College meets.Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns

We are being invaded. This is war.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 05:37 PM (JWCyv)

127 I'm all for free expression, but there are a couple here who are down right nasty constantly saying things against the President and those who think this is all a fraudulent mess.. My suggestion is to go to another sight where like minded "people." are...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 01, 2020 05:37 PM (Zmnko)

128 I don't fault Trump for anything other than trusting that some people in the swamp were patriots instead of backstabbers. Also he allowed things to be dragged out instead of insisting they be wrapped up or at a minimum be partially produced. But still I think the greatest prez in my lifetime.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2020 05:37 PM (r+sAi)

129 Posted by: Shibumi, praying for America at December 01, 2020 05:33 PM (ZCiJZ)

Hi there Shi boom boom, there are various militia groups in the state, I think they came under media scrutiny around Tim McViegh time, right?

Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2020 05:37 PM (9UmRs)

130 56 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy and Sidney Powell.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (22mNy)
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Arguably, Paul Ryan started the ball rolling, by not working with President Trump when he had the chance.

President Trump went into Washington with no friends, and that probably includes VP Pence.

That's not to say that VP Pence hasn't changed since, but, going in, I think there was a good chance.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:38 PM (WEBkv)

131 Where is Brian in NO to guide us?
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at December 01, 2020 05:31 PM (IYHxL)

Give it a minute......
Posted by: Sponge - Office of t

So I guess Im not the only one who really dislikes that guy.

Posted by: President-elect LASue at December 01, 2020 05:38 PM (wc6R6)

132 I have yet to read anything positive you have said about Trump. Maybe I missed that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (WkPC9)


No, you haven't missed anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:38 PM (hku12)

133 I should ask for an absentee ballot from Georgia - wonder if they would send me one.

Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect at December 01, 2020 05:38 PM (a0IVu)

134 Tell me if any of this sounds familiar:
'I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States'and then he said 'So help me GOD'.

He was the first one in a long time to mean what he said. I'm still behind him.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (XhWtx)

135 130 56 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy and Sidney Powell.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (22mNy)
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Arguably, Paul Ryan started the ball rolling, by not working with President Trump when he had the chance.

President Trump went into Washington with no friends, and that probably includes VP Pence.

That's not to say that VP Pence hasn't changed since, but, going in, I think there was a good chance.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:38 PM (WEBkv)


That fuck was instrumental in convincing over 50 incumbents to not seek reelection in the 2018 midterms. That was a giant torpedo in the agenda.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (s2VJv)

136 I prefer Tucker Law.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (9MUJR)

137
So I guess Im not the only one who really dislikes that guy.
Posted by: President-elect LASue at December 01, 2020 05:38 PM (wc6R6)

The line is long and distinguished.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (Zz0t1)

138 https://doi.org/10.1093/cid/ciaa1785

Methods
To determine if SARS-CoV-2 reactive antibodies were present in sera prior to the first identified case in the U.S. on January 19, 2020, residual archived samples from 7,389 routine blood donations collected by the American Red Cross from December 13, 2019 to January 17, 2020, from donors resident in nine states (CA, CT, IA, MA, MI, OR, RI, WA, WI) were tested at CDC for anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies.

Results
Of the 7,389 samples, 106 were reactive by pan Ig. Of these 106 specimens, 90 were available for further testing. Eighty four of 90 had neutralizing activity, 1 had S1 binding activity, and 1 had receptor binding domain / Ace2 blocking activity >50%, suggesting the presence of anti-SARS-CoV-2-reactive antibodies. Donations with reactivity occurred in all nine states.

Conclusions
These findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 may have been introduced into the United States prior to January 19, 2020.

Posted by: Deadly killer virus that no one knew about! at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (BBWrU)

139 I twitter ranted about the NRO thread yesterday. Look, fine, Orange Man Bad I get it.

Might we possibly have anyone in the supposed conservative press give anything other than lip service to the serious issues with voting that have been proven so far?

I'm not even talking about the allegations at the various hearings. I'm not even mentioning Dominion.

I'm talking about the stuff that is uncontroverted.

All those suddenly appearing USB drives.

All the votes "found" on the USB drives.

The 60,000 votes in Georgia that people "forgot" to upload.

Now there's this:

"WOW: An attorney from Chenango County drops a bombshell with the court-- 55 uncounted early votes were just found, having never been seen before.

In a congressional race separated by just 12 votes, these newly discovered early votes could make the difference"

https://twitter.com/JRosenblattTV/status/1333852927090417665

The tweet has the link to the letter. 55 ballots were mislaid and were never counted. Just oopsie forgot those ballots over there.

These are all things that actually happened and no one is disputing. But it won't flip the vote and Trump is awful and we totes mentioned voter fraud is bad, m'kay!

Oh shut up. NRO does not really mean it that it cares about voter fraud. It's insulting to even hand wave that it does.

*throws things*

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (GbPPJ)

140 "Dominion." The creepy fucks are rubbing our noses in it.

Posted by: flounder at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (KnJdm)

141
Posted by: Eromero
Yep.

Count me in .

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (JWCyv)

142 90
When dr balsey ford created her bold face lies.... the whole world
stopped, rapt with her brave story of go gurrl. But scores of people
come out and say I saw it with my own eyes and here is the proof.... oh
you destroyed the ballots.........I think that admiral guy who says
"this is gonna get out of control and we'll be lucky to get out of this
alive"might need to say his piece.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (9dzlp)

++++++
This is so true. To this day, she has an army of followers who really believe all of the vague recalls, faulty remembrances, fill-in-the-blank memories. And now, we have scores of eyewitnesses to voter fraud coming forward stating facts of what they saw, in real time just a few weeks ago, and they are called to question as if unreliable.

Posted by: washrivergal at December 01, 2020 05:40 PM (66BnU)

143 Stop ace, you're embarrassing Brian.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 01, 2020 05:40 PM (L106N)

144 This seems right given what we know - UBS placed the securities to the fund and filed the form D - it wasn't selling Dominion or investing it. Whether all these transactions are nefarious is not something I think anyone here on this blog can ascertain given the limited things we know.
Posted by:




guess it is time for another above top secret uber delta team to raid somebody.

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 01, 2020 05:40 PM (4Jold)

145 For those that missed this, like me, the woman who testified in Michigan is a must see. She's a 30 year worker for the SOS's office, now retired.

At the link, start the video around the 1:12:00 mark.

https://tinyurl.com/y5gbyakp

OMG...she was fire!

Posted by: Tami at December 01, 2020 05:40 PM (cF8AT)

146 "Is there any authentic Chinese food in New Orleans?"

QUICK BRIAN WHO WON THE 1939 WORLD SERIES?

Posted by: The mob at December 01, 2020 05:41 PM (+y8uL)

147 116 Deep Sate?

Deep State
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:35 PM (WEBkv)


Jen Paki sez there ain't no such animal...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 01, 2020 05:41 PM (s2VJv)

148 @95
A couple things...

- Trump was largely boxed in and constrained by the coup, the GOP and external actors inflicting a thousand cuts.

- He was surrounded by a panopticon of traitors from within and without the administration, Sessions and Barr from the inside, Graham and McConnell from the outside.

- Trump was simply not ruthless when he needed to be ruthless, he was tough and that toughness allowed him to muscle through but also gave him false confidence that he could over come any Op thrown at him, he was wrong.


And the thing is, that once he loses the cloak of protection the presidency affords on him, the Deep State will move on him with great dispatch and there is nothing that can be done about any of this.

And the truly sad thing is that Trump did not need to do any of this, he did not need to be President, he did this for truly honorable and noble reasons.

And this is what he got.

He did not deserve this.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 01, 2020 05:41 PM (htI5H)

149 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against
everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy
and Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Asshoes

-----------

I know, right? If only he'd acted more like W.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 01, 2020 05:41 PM (kTF2Z)

150 I love that I can read an AtC post and hear her voice in my mind as if she's reading it.

Subscribe to the podcast.

And I'm not a creepy stalker.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 01, 2020 05:41 PM (wGxSf)

151 121 Slightly incorrect. So the $400M commitment is for Staple Street Capital's second fund. The Chinese government owned branch of UBS is likely not the investor but representing unknown Chinese investors. Whoever funded their second fund, without any apparent fundraise, also presumably funded their first fund, which is the fund that owns Dominion.

Afaik Dominion was not sold by the fund that Staple Street Capital is running.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 01, 2020 05:23 PM (Zm+LZ)

This seems right given what we know - UBS placed the securities to the fund and filed the form D - it wasn't selling Dominion or investing it. Whether all these transactions are nefarious is not something I think anyone here on this blog can ascertain given the limited things we know.
Posted by: Boswell at December 01, 2020 05:36 PM (w2LAm)

We can basically infer that the investors in the new fund are Chinese with connections to the government(given the broker they aren't moving money overseas without Chicom approval). A further inference we can make is that the likely owners of the fund that owns Dominion, which is not the fund that just received a capital commitment, is the same group of people. The basis for this inference is the lack of apparent investors from normal sources, and given the timing of the commitment this is almost certainly what we call a re-up(investors in a prior fund investing in the new fund).

In short, it is highly probable that Chinese people or institutions with ties to the Chinese government are the ultimate owners of Dominion.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 01, 2020 05:41 PM (Zm+LZ)

152 How is the weather now in NV?
Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2020 05:17 PM (9UmRs)

Perfect. 55 degrees, sunny, beautiful view of snow on the mountains, slight breeze.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (YkawN)

153 Do we owe ANY loyalty to a government that takes over via coup? Hard to see how we do.

Posted by: Mookie at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (3vIkC)

154
Conclusions
These findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 may have been introduced into the United States prior to January 19, 2020.
Posted by: Deadly killer virus that no one knew about! at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (BBWrU)

Well, duh.......

I know a few people who believe they had it BEFORE 2020, including myself.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (Zz0t1)

155 Tell me if any of this sounds familiar:
'I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States'and then he said 'So help me GOD'.

He was the first one in a long time to mean what he said. I'm still behind him.
Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (XhWtx)


Absolutely.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (wkJeZ)

156 "Lin Wood is talking about a civil war".

To the people that criticize some of us that have been commenting about fighting; yeah, we don't want war, we know how awful it will be. No sane rational person wants this. However we are not dealing with sane rational people on the other side. They're the problem, not us that are on the same team as you.

I have no delusions thinking if shit hits the fan that I'm going to be running around like Rambo and John Wick seeking my glory doing ninja flips and superhero landings. I have three kids and take this shit seriously.
I dont think this will be glorious and I don't think movies starring George C. Scott types will be playing me in a war movie.
Can't speak for everyone here that thinks CWII is inevitable, but I don't think everyone here hasn't thought this through and realizes the consequences.

When I say stuff about it, I'm not just pulling shit out of my ass and venting. I'm scared shitless with what these a-holes on the left are doing and saying and it's not in a curled up in a corner pissing myself kind of way scared.

Posted by: JROD at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (0jZnq)

157 Smells more like a payout than a buyout. And if it was in October, then that was likely too late to make anything bad actually happen - it takes a while to develop and activate new stuff.

What makes October make sense, though? A second payment. I'll bet that if they go back far enough - sometime after 2016 but well before October - they'll find a similar amount from similar sources. Half upfront, half on delivery. Just like getting a roof put in.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (hYcqw)

158 That fuck was instrumental in convincing over 50 incumbents to not seek reelection in the 2018 midterms. That was a giant torpedo in the agenda.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (s2VJv)
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And, Ryan was stupid enough to raise his head a few days ago and remind people he's still not on our side.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (WEBkv)

159 This is so true. To this day, she has an army of followers who really believe all of the vague recalls, faulty remembrances, fill-in-the-blank memories. And now, we have scores of eyewitnesses to voter fraud coming forward stating facts of what they saw, in real time just a few weeks ago, and they are called to question as if unreliable.
Posted by: w




in fairness, it might have happened

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 01, 2020 05:43 PM (4Jold)

160
You know how we fucked up?

We didn't draw fcking NOOSES on all our ballots on election day.

Because if we did, FBI would be examining every single ballot right now!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 01, 2020 05:43 PM (/xqqO)

161 Seriously people, how dense are you.

He didn't "do anything" about the cities because he was told straight up, if he ordered the military to go in, he was going to have the military tell him to go fuck himself.

Well, that and it would've been political suicide for him.
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Ordering American troops to attack Americans would've lead to the DICTATOR label a bit more firmly.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:36 PM (Zz0t1)


I guess we'll never know.

It seems to me you don't have to "attack" Americans to restore order from chaos. You can easily sweep the streets every night for a week, and it's basically over.

Or you can let it run month after month, and then all the scared suburbanites look at you like you're impotent.

As if we haven't had enough evidence to show this was the year of safety over freedom. His initial instinct, way back in early June, was to restore order, and I think nice and quiet city streets would have been a much better sell in November than perpetual unrest.

But what do I know.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:43 PM (hku12)

162 These are all things that actually happened and no one is disputing. But it won't flip the vote and Trump is awful and we totes mentioned voter fraud is bad, m'kay!

Oh shut up. NRO does not really mean it that it cares about voter fraud. It's insulting to even hand wave that it does.

*throws things*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (GbPPJ)

*hands Alex more things*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:44 PM (ifmtJ)

163 JROD is right. War sucks. Bigly. It's the last resort for a reason.



Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 01, 2020 05:44 PM (wGxSf)

164 QUICK BRIAN WHO WON THE 1939 WORLD SERIES?
Posted by: The mob at December 01, 2020 05:41 PM (+y8uL)

Shanghai? SHIT!

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 01, 2020 05:44 PM (CQ3Qb)

165 >>> A "Gaylord" box?

Did SCOAMF get in there?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (wGxSf)

======

I worked fulfillment at a company. We used gaylords for shipping. Always figured that was just a name they made up for them.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 01, 2020 05:44 PM (4+gTH)

166 - "Meanwhile, Sydney Powell is retweeting people demanding that Trump impose martial law, and Lin Wood is talking about a civil war."


The legal beagles are simply taking the facts, applying law to them, and stating stating some remedies in plain English.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 05:44 PM (CZm2G)

167
On election night, we should have called the FBI and reported "nooses" seen in Philadelphia and Atlanta polling stations.

Hundreds of agents would've been at the polling stations in two minutes.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 01, 2020 05:45 PM (/xqqO)

168 142 90
When dr balsey ford created her bold face lies.... the whole world
stopped, rapt with her brave story of go gurrl. But scores of people
come out and say I saw it with my own eyes and here is the proof.... oh
you destroyed the ballots.........I think that admiral guy who says
"this is gonna get out of control and we'll be lucky to get out of this
alive"might need to say his piece.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (9dzlp)

++++++
This is so true. To this day, she has an army of followers who really believe all of the vague recalls, faulty remembrances, fill-in-the-blank memories. And now, we have scores of eyewitnesses to voter fraud coming forward stating facts of what they saw, in real time just a few weeks ago, and they are called to question as if unreliable.
Posted by: washrivergal
____________

Back when Professor Babytalk was making crap up, didn't the left lecture us about how we should only care about the seriousness of the charge?

Yeah, about that . . .

Posted by: Furious George at December 01, 2020 05:45 PM (9vQJW)

169 *throws things*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (GbPPJ)

*hands Alex more things*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:44 PM (ifmtJ)

*hands Alex a pillow to fight with*

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:45 PM (Zz0t1)

170 I worked fulfillment at a company. We used gaylords for shipping. Always figured that was just a name they made up for them.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 01, 2020 05:44 PM (4+gTH)

No, I have heard it to for a type of container.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 01, 2020 05:45 PM (/DVkD)

171
Conclusions
These findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 may have been introduced into the United States prior to January 19, 2020.


I got sick on Jan. 18.

"But no, it's the flu," they said. BS.

'Experts.' If nothing else, 2020 should be the year 'experts' are shown as the fools they are.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 01, 2020 05:45 PM (oVJmc)

172 Editors of the well-known conservative magazine National Review write a piece titled 'Trump's Disgraceful Endgame' criticizing the outgoing president for his post election behavior and the 'petulant refusal of one man 80+ million patriots to accept the verdict of the American people promised fraud from the Left and their Chinese Communist Party masters'

___________


Fixed for National Cuckview ...

Posted by: ShainS at December 01, 2020 05:46 PM (svs9j)

173
When I say stuff about it, I'm not just pulling shit out of my ass
and venting. I'm scared shitless with what these a-holes on the left are
doing and saying and it's not in a curled up in a corner pissing myself
kind of way scared.

If you're like me the fear is the contemplation of where this road leads, what you will be able to do in order to protect your family, and what you might be ultimately FORCED to do.

I haven't slept in weeks.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 05:46 PM (JWCyv)

174
As if we haven't had enough evidence to show this was the year of safety over freedom. His initial instinct, way back in early June, was to restore order, and I think nice and quiet city streets would have been a much better sell in November than perpetual unrest.

But what do I know.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:43 PM (hku12)

Serious question.

How did the LA Riots end? I don't remember. Was much younger and didn't pay too close attention.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:46 PM (Zz0t1)

175
In short, it is highly probable that Chinese people or institutions with ties to the Chinese government are the ultimate owners of Dominion.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 01, 2020 05:41 PM (Zm+LZ)

Can Kemp and his buddies be convicted of something? or maybe we should bring back Weissman and his crew to investigate for a couple of years. Taking kickbacks from Chinese government owned companies is illegal for Republicans not raised by Teresa Heinz and step fathered by the odious John Kerry.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 05:46 PM (YkawN)

176 guess it is time for another above top secret uber delta team to raid somebody.
Posted by: confederatefifth at December 01, 2020 05:40 PM (4Jold)

The reason Dominion deserves the scrutiny its getting is that it isn't acting at all like they suggest in their self-serving defense in the WSJ. Almost all innocent software tabulation companies like this would submit to a complete audit of the vote tabulations by the suing candidates to clear their good name and preserve their viability in the market, as long as their contracts for non-disclosure of confidential and proprietary materials is adhered to. And Dominion has shown to inclination for that - even as serious national accusations damaging their brand swirl...its not a good look.

Posted by: Boswell at December 01, 2020 05:46 PM (w2LAm)

177 The only way my MI legislature seats R electors is if a bunch of us, and
I mean thousands, show up armed. It seems that intimidation is the
only thing that works.

I did not see one thing today about tossing out the Wayne County votes. Their bullshit has gone on way too long.

Is there such a thing as "Bikers for Trump?" Or "Gun Owners for Trump?" How about "MI Militia Guys for Trump?" These are all people that should be invited to a get together in MI on a Friday, when everyone is in session.
/just saying
Posted by: Shibumi, praying for America at December 01, 2020 05:33 PM (ZCiJZ)

Shibumi, it's a Tuesday and most conservatives are working if they aren't shut down from Whitmer's Covid Coven. It's snowing with a wind chill of 19 degrees, the hearing was closed and we didn't even know where it was. Trump was told by the two leaders of the GOP in MI that they will not override a certified vote in Michigan by instructing electors for vote for him. That would change if the SC decertifies the vote because of the massive fraud. But that is were we are right now. You can bet that there will be thousands demanding electors be appropriately appointed if the SC decertifies. I"ve spent many hours in the past working with the Michigan GOP and the Michigan Dem. party on legislation my professional organization wanted passed and you cannot imagine how dumb, ignorant, and short sighted most politicians are. They are only interested in what could help them get reelected or what their major donors want done because they can't get reelected without their money. I"m talking about the career or long term politicians, they morph into that mold out of necessity and because they forget what the people they represent are actually about. They sit in fricking committee meetings all day when they are not being smoothed by donors. It's all a chess game .

I believe this is what Paul Ryan was talking about when he said Trump had no idea how government works. Trump's work and style has worked for us, but it hasn't helped him at all in the political arena. We are seeing the fruits of that now, when Republican politicians won't use their own power their job gives them, to right a fraud election unless a court forces them and gives them cover.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2020 05:46 PM (CGdWK)

178 Meanwhile, Sydney Powell is retweeting people demanding that Trump impose martial law, and Lin Wood is talking about a civil war.

And I don't disagree with them.

I don't think these things are likely -- but they are morally justified.

The Democrats, the media, the tech monoplists and mind-controllers, and their allies on the corporate pseudoright have ended democracy.

I don't see any need to pretend it still exists myself.



If indeed true, and I believe it is, now is the time to not only buy ammo, but to plan. You've heard me say it before. This is the time to organize.
Who leads the resistance?
What are the enemy's centers of gravity?
Where is the enemy weakest?
How do we best fight back initially and then later.
Acts of civil disobedience? Riots?
Who are the leaders?
Do we, and if so, how, do we create linkages to potential allied nations?
Think back on all the crap the Founders had to do. Where are we in this process and how do we engage?




Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2020 05:47 PM (axyOa)

179 War is here, we just haven't come to grips with the reality of it yet.

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at December 01, 2020 05:47 PM (w7KSn)

180 "The Democrats, the media, the tech monoplists and mind-controllers, and
their allies on the corporate pseudoright have ended democracy."

The Soviets allegedly spent much more on their PsyOp Warfare than hot war military. The scheming and lies and crimes of the leftist groups, acting in harmony, is War. Whether it is addressed as insurrection or racketeering or sedition ... idk.


As Dr. Epstein showed, the actions of Google alone could sway 10% (whatever) of the vote, and they sent out vote notices only to Democrats. Their censorship adds even more ... then add in FB and the other BigTech leftists making billions in Dem campaign donations by their full press Hate for Trump, love for all things Biden, with no regard for truth. The full press propaganda media was even funded by our own government, it seems.


Why are Barr, Haspel, Wray still in office to slow walk, obstruct, bury evidence? Maybe they found their kompromat on Trump or have threatened his kids ... it all just seems so absurd that no action is taken (except on Pandemic, then insane action is taken headed by Gates' boy Fauci).

Posted by: illiniwek at December 01, 2020 05:47 PM (Cus5s)

181 I feel surprisingly OK with PDT declaring martial law, locking up the demonrat leadership nationwide, and holding a new election with paper ballots under joint military / civilian supervision.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 01, 2020 05:47 PM (/On2j)

182 Conclusions
These findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 may have been introduced into the United States prior to January 19, 2020.
Posted by: Deadly killer virus that no one knew about! at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (BBWrU)

Well, duh.......

I know a few people who believe they had it BEFORE 2020, including myself.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (Zz0t1)
........

Count me in. Sick as a dog in late November and early December 2019. Full on lung fu hack.

Posted by: wth at December 01, 2020 05:47 PM (v0R5T)

183 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE NEIL GORSUCH at December 01, 2020 05:47 PM (Pzzpr)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at December 01, 2020 05:48 PM (Zz0t1)

184 84 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against
everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy
and Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Asshoes

heh
Posted by: Officer Paddy O'Irony at December 01, 2020 05:26 PM (JWCyv)


No really, it's true. Trump could have gave a big fat F You to the people who voted for him, slipped into bed with the corrupt pricks who run bartertown, and they surely would have let him keep his job.

What an idiot he was.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:30 PM (hku12)

___

You can't win in politics by pissing off everyone. Trump learned that the hard way.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:48 PM (22mNy)

185 The Yellow pages and Sears want their audiences back

Posted by: REDACTED at December 01, 2020 05:48 PM (MIsHM)

186 Big News!!1!

Major Development! Jaw-Dropping Report due in Two Weeks!

So? Nothing will be done about it. No it will not. Not a fucking goddammed thing. Forget it. Our rights are erased and we are ruled over by tyrants. Happy now? You pussies.
There are reasons for revolt and this is on the edge of one of them. Unless the fraud is admitted to or proven. And if you think the LEO, those fine men in blue you so steadfastly support, will follow the lead of patriots you'd better think again.

Posted by: Clear Eyed Killer at December 01, 2020 05:48 PM (aBBMN)

187 Oh, man, great post. There was so much election fraud news today -- good news for Trump -- that it was hard to keep up.

Posted by: Oblivious at December 01, 2020 05:48 PM (Astxw)

188 Conclusions
These findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 may have been introduced into the United States prior to January 19, 2020.
Posted by: Deadly killer virus that no one knew about! at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (BBWrU)

Well, duh.......

I know a few people who believe they had it BEFORE 2020, including myself.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (Zz0t1)
........

Count me in. Sick as a dog in late November and early December 2019. Full on lung fu hack.
Posted by: wth


Wife & I last week of December.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2020 05:49 PM (UYkjZ)

189 Defund the USPS, bitches! Yo!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 01, 2020 05:49 PM (WOYcU)

190 Thank you, MAE.

*throws the more things*

I've had a very difficult day, caused by my own actions which makes it worse, and this shit is not making me feel better.

Here's the thing, there's nothing, utterly nothing, that will convince the people who are determined not to be convinced that there was any level of voter fraud that occurred at all.

Half of this country does not care if there was fraud because the Bad Orange Man needed to go.

Of the other half, a good, what, 25% think that it's just unseemly to question Democracy and the Republic.

Look, I still do not know if there was fraud sufficient to flip the election (don't yell at me). But I sure as shit know there's more evidence and testimony by named and identified people about fraud then there was by Stacey Abrams about how she's truly governor of Georgia.

Anyway, my Chinese better get here soon. The emotions won't eat themselves.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 05:49 PM (GbPPJ)

191 As if we haven't had enough evidence to show this was the year of safety over freedom. His initial instinct, way back in early June, was to restore order, and I think nice and quiet city streets would have been a much better sell in November than perpetual unrest.

But what do I know.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:43 PM (hku12)

Serious question.

How did the LA Riots end? I don't remember. Was much younger and didn't pay too close attention.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:46 PM (Zz0t1)


The National Guard came in.

It's what has happened with most riots in recent years.

Just not this one.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:49 PM (hku12)

192
Count me in. Sick as a dog in late November and early December 2019. Full on lung fu hack.
Posted by: wth at December 01, 2020 05:47 PM (v0R5T)

Yep.

Late November. Worst fever I've ever had for about 24 hours. Cough that wouldn't quit.

Cough didn't go away until mid January.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:49 PM (Zz0t1)

193 You can't win in politics by pissing off everyone. Trump learned that the hard way.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:48 PM (22mNy)
----------------

Really?

Wow, yeah, that tax cut sure died on the shelf.

Along with all of the judges that weren't appointed.

Too bad about that last minute SCOTUS appointment, too!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:49 PM (WEBkv)

194 My hibachi steak has veggies that comes with it, that counts as healthy, right?

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (GbPPJ)

195 Best we'll be able to get from the Dems/GOPe is a promise not to steal any future elections. They wouldn't keep it if push came to Trump again, but it would at least be nice if they'd commit to some sort of future election integrity in theory rather than their present maximalist demands for the right to steal any election they please without even feeling a little bit bad about it.

Posted by: All Just Part of the Plan at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (dYe5S)

196 I agree w the truck driver: why would a couple hundred thousand ballots be arriving in PA via NY? The fact the USPS Supervisor refused to accept at that facility, but they "disappeared" later at another, just adds to the belief that USPS was a major player in the fraud.

Posted by: EveR at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (DsGxB)

197 As if we haven't had enough evidence to show this was the year of safety over freedom. His initial instinct, way back in early June, was to restore order, and I think nice and quiet city streets would have been a much better sell in November than perpetual unrest.

But what do I know.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:43 PM (hku12)


I disagree. Remember there was massive unrest planned for DC beginning in September that was supposed to lead up to the election but the Left called it off because their polling was so bad after the summer riot season. Trump did the right thing by forcing Governors to own the damage and ask for him to bring in the Nat'l Guard.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (CQ3Qb)

198 Count me in. Sick as a dog in late November and early December 2019. Full on lung fu hack.
Posted by: wth


Wife & I last week of December.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2020 05:49 PM (UYkjZ)

Me, first week of January - could not get out of bed for about 1.5 days, no appetite and fever. I thought it was the flu.

Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (a0IVu)

199 No, but really, Krebs said it was the most secure election ever in the universe.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (buTO7)

200
You can't win in politics by pissing off everyone. Trump learned that the hard way.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:48 PM (22mNy)

Mental note.

Be Bush if you want to succeed as a Republican in politics.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (Zz0t1)

201 Allahpundit is calling for "reconciliation" and "obedience to our new lords and masters".


#Sad

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (9MUJR)

202 *throws things*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (GbPPJ)

NRO waves away voter fraud using their smug disdain for risible Trump behavior as if it were some secret incantation against the devil...it has about as much effect on their skeptical readers as you'd surmise - none.

Posted by: Boswell at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (w2LAm)

203 I don't see any need to pretend it still exists myself.
==========
Wow.

Posted by: Oblivious at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (Astxw)

204 "I believe this is what Paul Ryan was talking about when he said Trump
had no idea how government works. Trump's work and style has worked for
us, but it hasn't helped him at all in the political arena. We are
seeing the fruits of that now, when Republican politicians won't use
their own power their job gives them, to right a fraud election unless a
court forces them and gives them cover."


And this is why I believe rather than Civil War II, we need American Revolution II. Do we want to shed blood and treasure, do we want to pledge a lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor defending THIS crap?

Time to go back to pre-1913. Add the 19th Amendment, the Civil Rights act, a few others. But this monstrosity is not worth fighting for.

Posted by: Mookie at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (3vIkC)

205 I can't help but think all these "hearings," if that's what they really are, are nothing more than "the reading of grievances."

Nobody seems to be taking them seriously who should be.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (3H9h1)

206 JROD @ 156- I hear you bro. I don't expect to live through this, but I won't go cheap.
Romans 8:28-30

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (XhWtx)

207 201 Allahpundit is calling for "reconciliation" and "obedience to our new lords and masters".


#Sad
Posted by: Dr Spank at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (9MUJR)

Allahpundit is a kneeler. And a taint licker.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (ifmtJ)

208 We are the jury

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (nUhF0)

209
The National Guard came in.

It's what has happened with most riots in recent years.

Just not this one.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:49 PM (hku12)

Don't the states have to REQUEST federal assistance? DC can't just fling troops around where they see fit, no?

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (Zz0t1)

210 I don't want my party making deals for things we don't want. We have lived under that since before time. It doesn't work. It's just guaranteed losing.

What I wanted was for my party to use the authority and power the voters gave it from 2016 to 2018 and do things to promote this country, its citizens, the cause for freedom and rule of law. Had they built the whole fence, a tyrant Biden admin couldn't just open the border. Had they gotten rid of Obamacare, they could have implemented better options that would make our citizens more prosperous and, maybe, even healthier. Did anyone think for one second that maybe they would earn more money and power by actually bettering the lives of the citizens they allegedly represent?

All of this is happening because commie scumbags like Mitt ROmney, Paul Ryan, Lindsey Graham and others put dirty chinese (spit) money, petty bullshit and presumed power ahead of the good of the country.

And now, in the throes of the death of this great country, we have less than 10 reliable patriots and supporters in congress willing to stand up. Entire states see their votes trashed and their cities burned and not only do nothing, they tell us nothing bad is happening. Not an honest or moral soul among hundreds of thousands of people involved in this fraud election. Those who do come forward are mocked, harrassed and now, even beaten. This isn't America anymore. It's tragic.

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (SScvq)

211 My hibachi steak has veggies that comes with it, that counts as healthy, right?
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (GbPPJ)
--------------

Actually, whether or not something is healthy should be a binary decision.

Not eating: Unhealthy
Eating: Healthy

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (WEBkv)

212 >>> There is no doubt that Republicans have been in on this from the beginning. That said, why is the conservative blogosphere still telling us to buck up and keep voting Republican because you have no choice.
You always have choices. Posted by: csmats at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (X5VFN)

It's a Kobiyashi Maru scenario in the GA runoff.

1) Vote GOP and somehow despite fraud they get in. Will be treacherous GOPe pig at the trough backstabbers.

2) Don't vote GOP, the dems get both seats, the senate goes scorched earth installing all their progressive dream legislation, and changes the SCOTUS rules.

3) Neither 1 or 2 matter, Abrams has arranged the fix to be in. The dems win and invoke everything in #2.

All 3 scenarious are poisonous.


Posted by: LizLem at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (Rbfr/)

213 My hibachi steak has veggies that comes with it, that counts as healthy, right?

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM



Should be easy to use your fork and pick them out. If not, just cover them with gravy.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (axyOa)

214 As if we haven't had enough evidence to show this was the year of safety over freedom. His initial instinct, way back in early June, was to restore order, and I think nice and quiet city streets would have been a much better sell in November than perpetual unrest.

But what do I know.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:43 PM (hku12)

People in Minneapolis saw the violence, saw it end when the National Guard came in, saw that their mayor and governor are worthless, and still voted for Biden. That's not Trump's fault.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (YkawN)

215 Mental note.



Be Bush if you want to succeed as a Republican in politics.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (Zz0t1)

I'm stealing this.






















Posted by: Nikki Haley at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (2N7oZ)

216 Dominion is not a software tabulation company

Dominion is a software calculation company

Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (CZm2G)

217 Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2020 05:47 PM (axyOa)

Solzhenitsyn:
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

Substitute nanny-state licensing official closing down a business or church or school.

Posted by: motionview at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (pYQR/)

218 207 IF SCOTUS DOES NOT BAIL US OUT IT'S EITHER CIVIL WAR OR MARTIAL LAW.
Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE NEIL GORSUCH at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (Pzzpr)

Sorry for the quote, but he's right.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (ifmtJ)

219 I read several cryptic stories in the MSM in the weeks before election day, that Trump may well have a sizeable lead in the Great Lakes states on election night, but it would not hold. Our media betters knew the fix was in and wanted to assure their voters not to panic based on actual ballots cast.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (d9Cw3)

220 Nah, I gotta laugh at the idea that it's Trump's fault that the entire GOPe stabbed him in the fucking back and he didn't just sit there and take it like a servile cvck. I only ever saw him play a tit-for-tat strategy. It's just that almost everyone took a shot at him.

He was basically fighting an insurgency with a tiny loyal cadre against the entire government from inside the WH. It's amazing he accomplished what he did. What would never have worked was the typical GOPe template of go along to get along.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (L106N)

221 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE NEIL GORSUCH at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (Pzzpr)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (Zz0t1)

222 Several whistleblowers on Tuesday cast new uncertainty on the 2020 election process, claiming up to 288,000 ballots disappeared, another 100,000 were improperly backdated, and mail promoting President Trump was junked while mail for Joe Biden was delivered.



388,000 individual mistakes which individually would not change the outcome of the election.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (dNzKv)

223 This thread is going to give BiNO the vapors.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2020 05:17 PM (aQqRN)

He'll ignore all the video testimony and nitpick some "rabbit-hole" angle on Dominion, remaining vigilant to dodge the actual issue of whether votes were changed.

Posted by: Gilded at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (3VCGm)

224 MUNG is right!

Wait, what did I say?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (/DVkD)

225
Can Kemp and his buddies be convicted of something? or maybe we should bring back Weissman and his crew to investigate for a couple of years. Taking kickbacks from Chinese government owned companies is illegal for Republicans not raised by Teresa Heinz and step fathered by the odious John Kerry.
Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 05:46 PM (YkawN)

That's a pretty specialized legal questions. I know this other stuff because it ties into my job and I have access to databases that aggregate this sort of information. I don't know in any detail what laws might prohibit or limit foreign ownership of voting infrastructure.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (Zm+LZ)

226 >>>Meanwhile, Sydney Powell is retweeting people demanding that Trump impose martial law, and Lin Wood is talking about a civil war.

And I don't disagree with them.


Well, that escalated quickly.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (UPoLF)

227 That little Rick Wilson fellow seems a touched unhinged in his new Daily Beast column.

Apparently, they're still unhappy.

Posted by: lizabth at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (L3Rsz)

228 Trump has reason per the 2018 EO to start seizing assets...if he can't even do this don't even think about marshall law, just go home and call it done.
If he wants to make an impact he should start with the $$$ and big, that means ccp, fb, twitter, utube, ga and az govs.....etc etc etc. Make them bleed hard!

Posted by: Ward at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (nzKWW)

229 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (arJlL)

230 That fuck was instrumental in convincing over 50 incumbents to not seek reelection in the 2018 midterms. That was a giant torpedo in the agenda.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (s2VJv)
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And, Ryan was stupid enough to raise his head a few days ago and remind people he's still not on our side.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (WEBkv)
************
I wish McCarthy has been the leader from he beginning.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2020 05:53 PM (NpAcC)

231 My hibachi steak has veggies that comes with it, that counts as healthy, right?

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM



My scotch is made with grain soooo....

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2020 05:53 PM (axyOa)

232 Considering all the forces arrayed against him and level.of destruction wrought to defeat him, Trump did a tremendous job. He could have bailed or gone GOPe but he has fought for us every step of the way. I am saddened for my 6 y/o daughter who will never know the freedom of thought, association and livelihood that i had. I have no shame or humiliation, just an empty saddness as if she has died.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 01, 2020 05:53 PM (4vNgL)

233 The Chinese Bat Flu was probably sling shotting around the world as early as September of 2019.

At this point it doesn't really matter when the Op started.
In the words of a very evil man...

"Well, it worked, didn't it?"
-- Harry Reid.



Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 01, 2020 05:53 PM (htI5H)

234 Hiya Bawk !

Posted by: JT at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (arJlL)

235 219 I read several cryptic stories in the MSM in the weeks before election day, that Trump may well have a sizeable lead in the Great Lakes states on election night, but it would not hold. Our media betters knew the fix was in and wanted to assure their voters not to panic based on actual ballots cast.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (d9Cw3)

I am not even sure we need to look at the tea leaves that closely: Biden openly said he had the biggest fraud organization in history and 'did not need your vote' to win Michigan, was it?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (/DVkD)

236 >> Is there any authentic Chinese food in New Orleans?
Posted by: WitchDoktor

Dicks
Lots of little tiny dicks.

Posted by: Aviator at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (0FTCx)

237
Sorry for the quote, but he's right.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (ifmtJ)

Still a dick, but has been making a LOT more sense of late.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (Zz0t1)

238 Can Kemp and his buddies be convicted of something? or maybe we should bring back Weissman and his crew to investigate for a couple of years. Taking kickbacks from Chinese government owned companies is illegal for Republicans not raised by Teresa Heinz and step fathered by the odious John Kerry.
Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 05:46 PM (YkawN)

That's a pretty specialized legal questions. I know this other stuff because it ties into my job and I have access to databases that aggregate this sort of information. I don't know in any detail what laws might prohibit or limit foreign ownership of voting infrastructure.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (Zm+LZ)

Well, if there was some proof that he received kickbacks (bribes), then yes, there are laws against that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (UPoLF)

239 232 Considering all the forces arrayed against him and level.of destruction wrought to defeat him, Trump did a tremendous job. He could have bailed or gone GOPe but he has fought for us every step of the way. I am saddened for my 6 y/o daughter who will never know the freedom of thought, association and livelihood that i had. I have no shame or humiliation, just an empty saddness as if she has died.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at December 01, 2020 05:53 PM (4vNgL)

This. So much this.

Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (a0IVu)

240 Those of us who have seen war don't want to see it again. We also know that there are some things worth fighting for. Last time, I was sent thousands of miles away to make other people free. If I have to fight again, it will be for my own family and my own patch of ground. I don't want it, but I won't run from it either.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (kTF2Z)

241 196 I agree w the truck driver: why would a couple hundred thousand ballots be arriving in PA via NY? The fact the USPS Supervisor refused to accept at that facility, but they "disappeared" later at another, just adds to the belief that USPS was a major player in the fraud.
Posted by: EveR at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (DsGxB)
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Number of ballots transferred would swing the election result in PA.

Any chance Barr will "see" it?

Posted by: Oblivious at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (Astxw)

242 Allahpundit is calling for "reconciliation" and "obedience to our new lords and masters".


#Sad
Posted by: Dr Spank at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (9MUJR)

He can start by outing himself and bowing before the tolerant group whose god's name he took in vain.

Or he can be doxxed.

Wonder how long "unity" will last for him.

And by unity I mean his head with his neck.

Posted by: Bete at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (Ojki1)

243 148 @95
A couple things...

- Trump was largely boxed in and constrained by the coup, the GOP and external actors inflicting a thousand cuts.

- He was surrounded by a panopticon of traitors from within and without the administration, Sessions and Barr from the inside, Graham and McConnell from the outside.

- Trump was simply not ruthless when he needed to be ruthless, he was tough and that toughness allowed him to muscle through but also gave him false confidence that he could over come any Op thrown at him, he was wrong.


And the thing is, that once he loses the cloak of protection the presidency affords on him, the Deep State will move on him with great dispatch and there is nothing that can be done about any of this.

And the truly sad thing is that Trump did not need to do any of this, he did not need to be President, he did this for truly honorable and noble reasons.

And this is what he got.

He did not deserve this.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 01, 2020 05:41 PM (htI5H)

THIS.

He is, by far, the cleanest national-level politician that we've had in my lifetime. He's been a public figure for 40 years; if there was any hint of corruption around the guy, hundreds of people could have dropped a dime on him; they didn't, because there was none.

He hasn't broken any law in his professional life. He won't be breaking any laws now. He breaks norms, not laws.

I never thought I would live to see a president that surpassed RWR. It's been a pleasure to be proved wrong in DJT.

I pray that he gets the four more years he so richly deserves. In fact, he should get a do-over on the last four, because he never had the chance to be recognized as President the first time.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (6xA3t)

244 Editors of the well-known conservative magazine National Review write a
piece titled 'Trump's Disgraceful Endgame' criticizing the outgoing
president for his post election behavior and the 'petulant refusal of one man 80+ million patriots to accept the verdict of the American people promised fraud from the Left and their Chinese Communist Party masters'





Cuck Morrisey has a piece in Lukewarm Gas that concludes it's better for the Georgia GOP to surrender like they are than to embarrass themselves like Rudy is doing at these hearings. Oh please save us cucks from having to really fight. Let's go back to surrendering like nice guys


Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (aQqRN)

245 78 The only way my MI legislature seats R electors is if a bunch of us, and I mean thousands, show up armed. It seems that intimidation is the only thing that works.
I did not see one thing today about tossing out the Wayne County votes. Their bullshit has gone on way too long.
Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2020 05:28 PM (9UmRs)

++++++

Yeah I watched every pathetic minute of it and for the most part all I saw were a bunch of disinterested elected officials who, by virtue of being elected by the people, felt too entitled to listen to the people tell them that votes are no longer worth shit if they don't do anything.

Now think about this, I'm going to outline it:

1. elected republicans feel entitled over and superior to the people who elected them

2. the people who elected them warn them that, if they do not act, voting will no longer matter

3. in response, these elected officials sit bored and half-asleep, checking their phones, and hurrying witnesses along after their three minute buzzer goes off, after which they bang the gavel, say meeting adjourned, and will do jack shit about any of it.

So what comes next? Work it backwards...

1. elected republicans do nothing about election stealing
2. voting no longer matters so the people no longer vote
3. elected republicans quickly become defeated republicans

And they will go home, unelected, back to live amongst the people they looked down on and did nothing to help with the power vested to them.

I don't see it ending well for them, but if that's the way they want it to go, alright then...

Posted by: pmurT at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (ojwvu)

246 Best we'll be able to get from the Dems/GOPe is a
promise not to steal any future elections. They wouldn't keep it if
push came to Trump again, but it would at least be nice if they'd commit
to some sort of future election integrity in theory rather than their
present maximalist demands for the right to steal any election they
please without even feeling a little bit bad about it.

Posted by: All Just Part of the Plan at December 01, 2020 05:50 PM (dYe5S)

That's.....cringe worthy. It would be nice if they wouldn't cheat so much. Yeah, that sort of begging is going to work.

Posted by: WOPR - Over the top lads, this time it will be differnt at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (J70i0)

247 Martial Law?

How would we know the difference over the Kung Flu Freakout going on now?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (/Dgcm)

248 193 You can't win in politics by pissing off everyone. Trump learned that the hard way.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:48 PM (22mNy)
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Really?

Wow, yeah, that tax cut sure died on the shelf.

Along with all of the judges that weren't appointed.

Too bad about that last minute SCOTUS appointment, too!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:49 PM (WEBkv)

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Yes tax cuts and judges are great examples where his interests aligned with other interests and things got done. There should have been more of that.

The irony of Trump is he demanded loyalty but gave none back. How many people did he not just fire, but publicly fired and then humiliated? You think that builds trust between other members of the cabinet? You think this makes quality people want to work in his admin?

The end result is when he needed allies the most - to fight the fraud - he had nobody.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (22mNy)

249 Hope the Senate stays Republican. At least they do block a lot of nonsense.
---

Explain how keeping the Senate stops:
1) Executive Orders that make Obama look restrained
2) new agency rules
3) sue and settle consent decrees
4) discretionary enforcement and non-enforcement

Then follow up with an analysis on why the Republican Senate:
1) will not approve 100% of Biden's judicial nominees
2) will not approve 100% of Biden's Executive nominees
3) will not approve 99.5% of Biden's spending requests
4) will not pass Biden's comprehensive immigration reform

Oh, and did you miss that the FCC chairman is resigning?

Guess what else we get under Biden-- that the Senate will be helpless to stop:
Net neutrality
Fairness doctrine
Licensing of news dissemination entities and individuals to prevent fake news
Comment registration on all websites to prevent speading fake news

Nope.
This game here is for it all.
There is no firewall.
There is no retreat.
There is no regroup.
This is literally worse than you can imagine--if Trump loses.

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (aO8Gd)

250 MUNG is right!

Wait, what did I say?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (/DVkD)

I haven't disagreed with a single one of his fleeting posts that I've seen in the past month at least.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (t+qrx)

251
Well, that escalated quickly.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (UPoLF)

Well, so did the full court press to destroy The United States of America and it's Constitution.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (Zz0t1)

252 Hiya JT.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (d9Cw3)

253 209 and where was Barr, dropped a few coy hints about elites, then scuttled off to the smorgasbord

Posted by: CN at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (ONvIw)

254 the thing is is everybody discussing war is a bit naive if they think russians or chinese or others are going to sit by and watch it happen. if they think for a min that the chain of command for our strategic forces is compromised, they are going to hit us hard and then the glory of civil war is going to be glowing.

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (4Jold)

255 213 >>> There is no doubt that Republicans have been in on this from the beginning. That said, why is the conservative blogosphere still telling us to buck up and keep voting Republican because you have no choice.
You always have choices. Posted by: csmats at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (X5VFN)

If you live in GA, show up in person to vote and vote for Purdue and Loeffler. Make the dems and Kemp fire up the cheating machine again, if for no other reason than to make them work. Best case scenario, Kemp arrested, GA elects a better republican governor who chooses better replacement Senators after Loeffler and maybe Perdue get popped for insider trading along with Burr.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 05:56 PM (YkawN)

256 My hibachi steak has veggies that comes with it, that counts as healthy, right?
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery

Yep.

Hold back a stringbean and put it next to your dessert plate.

That's healthy too !

Posted by: JT at December 01, 2020 05:56 PM (arJlL)

257 Posted by: BurtTC at December 01, 2020 05:43 PM (hku12)..... I think nice and quiet city streets would have been a much better sell in November than perpetual unrest.

A better sell to who? All those fake voters took time to consider the issues before dumping hundreds of thousands of fake votes?

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 01, 2020 05:56 PM (SScvq)

258 That said, why is the conservative blogosphere still telling us to buck
up and keep voting Republican because you have no choice.

You always have choices.

Hell, Don Jr. is out there promoting voting for Loeffler and Perdue.

Fuck that noise, Jr.

Neither Perdue nor Kelly Loeffler's Twitter feeds contain the word "fraud". Neither one has said a word about supporting Trump or fixing the fraud as they are too fucking busy saving their own seats at the trough.


Better no firewall than a Chinese-owned firewall.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 05:56 PM (JWCyv)

259 230 That fuck was instrumental in convincing over 50 incumbents to not seek reelection in the 2018 midterms. That was a giant torpedo in the agenda.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (s2VJv)
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And, Ryan was stupid enough to raise his head a few days ago and remind people he's still not on our side.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (WEBkv)
************
I wish McCarthy has been the leader from he beginning.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2020 05:53 PM (NpAcC)

I get the sense that McCarthy is just Failure Theater II: Electric Boogaloo.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 01, 2020 05:56 PM (6xA3t)

260 Trump firing people wasn't the problem. Trump not firing enough people was a huge problem

Posted by: Nckate at December 01, 2020 05:56 PM (rEqap)

261
Fair election would have had the gop in control of house and senate and a Trump win. Instead we are getting a fraud result with dems in control of house and likely senate and a tapioca joe puppet.

Yeah its war and we have lost a major battle as big as D-Day.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2020 05:56 PM (r+sAi)

262 Don't the states have to REQUEST federal assistance? DC can't just fling troops around where they see fit, no?
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (Zz0t1)

Federal troops cannot be used for domestic law enforcement under the posse comitatus act. Coast guard is exempt from that.

National guard, if called up by the state governor, can be used for law enforcement (as far as federal law is concerned, state law may vary), but not if called up by the president.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 01, 2020 05:57 PM (UPoLF)

263 Okay, maybe it is worth keeping the Senate just in order to make little Ricky Wilson MORE angry.

Amusement is all we have for now.

Posted by: lizabth at December 01, 2020 05:57 PM (L3Rsz)

264 Those of us who have seen war don't want to see it again. We also know that there are some things worth fighting for. Last time, I was sent thousands of miles away to make other people free. If I have to fight again, it will be for my own family and my own patch of ground. I don't want it, but I won't run from it either.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM


Ditto.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2020 05:57 PM (axyOa)

265 Better no firewall than a Chinese-owned firewall.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 05:56 PM (JWCyv)
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Romney will sell out, effectively making the Senate a 50 50 split, with Kamela being the tie breaker, even if the GOP gets to 51 seats.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:57 PM (WEBkv)

266 Yes tax cuts and judges are great examples where his interests aligned with other interests and things got done. There should have been more of that.

The irony of Trump is he demanded loyalty but gave none back. How many people did he not just fire, but publicly fired and then humiliated? You think that builds trust between other members of the cabinet? You think this makes quality people want to work in his admin?

The end result is when he needed allies the most - to fight the fraud - he had nobody.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (22mNy)

Mental note #2.

Don't hurt feelings of those that fail to assist with your agenda and stab you in the back at every opportunity after you rightfully fire them.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 05:58 PM (Zz0t1)

267 This site is left wing, over 50%. When I need to know what Krystal is up to I can find it here. If I need some doom, I can come here. Barr hate, Sessions hate, Wray hate. Everything a growing lefty needs.






Posted by: nip at December 01, 2020 05:58 PM (yoqcZ)

268 260 Trump firing people wasn't the problem. Trump not firing enough people was a huge problem
Posted by: Nckate at December 01, 2020 05:56 PM (rEqap)

___

Yeah true. He should have fired 1000 people on Day 1. What he shouldn't have done is hire and fire people seemingly at random. I mean fuck, The Mooch? Bolton? Da Fuq?

Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:58 PM (22mNy)

269 Loeffler and Perdue won't even recognize the fraud that is about to have them lose. Amazing when you think about it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2020 05:58 PM (r+sAi)

270
The 2018 midterms really fucked us.
All the blame for that goes to the "Republicans" and Jeff Sessions.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 01, 2020 05:58 PM (/xqqO)

271 > If indeed true, and I believe it is, now is the time to not only buy ammo, but to plan. You've heard me say it before. This is the time to organize.

Be prepared to fight a propaganda war as much as anything else.

Posted by: False false-flag at December 01, 2020 05:58 PM (BBWrU)

272 February 2021:

Under a new Biden/Harris initiative all "carry out" stores where the customer is permitted to load their vehicle with their purchases will be required to have a BLM/Antifa "Security Guide" to escort them to their vehicle. Payment will be rendered upon delivery, price to be determined by the service.

bow down

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (3H9h1)

273 And now, in the throes of the death of this great country, we have less than 10 reliable patriots and supporters in congress willing to stand up. Entire states see their votes trashed and their cities burned and not only do nothing, they tell us nothing bad is happening. Not an honest or moral soul among hundreds of thousands of people involved in this fraud election. Those who do come forward are mocked, harrassed and now, even beaten. This isn't America anymore. It's tragic.
Posted by: Eli Cash at December 01, 2020 05:51 PM (SScvq)

Well said.

*sprays whipped cream directly into maw*

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (GbPPJ)

274 Romney will sell out, effectively making the Senate a 50 50 split, with Kamela being the tie breaker, even if the GOP gets to 51 seats.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:57 PM (WEBkv)

Maybe if AOC pisses off Manchin enough, he might vote with the GOP..nah..who am I kidding.

Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (a0IVu)

275 254
the thing is is everybody discussing war is a bit naive if they think
russians or chinese or others are going to sit by and watch it happen.
if they think for a min that the chain of command for our strategic
forces is compromised, they are going to hit us hard and then the glory
of civil war is going to be glowing.

Posted by: confederatefifth at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (4Jold)

"glory", or "horror". More likely the latter. Still preferable to living under a tyrannical regime where our votes do not matter, we bow to health "experts" as if they are gods, and we are forced to lock ourselves into our homes for years on end in order to be safe.

Live Free or Die. Period.

Posted by: Mookie at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (3vIkC)

276 So when may we expect the FBI to tell us there was no "wide" spread fraud?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (Zmnko)

277 Yes tax cuts and judges are great examples where his interests aligned with other interests and things got done. There should have been more of that.

The irony of Trump is he demanded loyalty but gave none back. How many people did he not just fire, but publicly fired and then humiliated? You think that builds trust between other members of the cabinet? You think this makes quality people want to work in his admin?

The end result is when he needed allies the most - to fight the fraud - he had nobody.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (22mNy)


Yer nic is looking more and more like the truth.

He fires people who don't deliver. Should he keep them, while the ignore his directions and fuck everything up?

Asshoe, indeed.

Posted by: tcn in AK at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (okGHj)

278 Perdue is a blithering idiot. Chances are very high he'll lose on 1/5, but if he'd demandEd the signature verification, there'd be no runoff in his race. He has a family full of GOPe connections that could force Kemp to move w the proper "incentive." But, instead, he whimpered away and let the fraud rule.

Posted by: EveR at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (DsGxB)

279 FOIA emails between rafsbarger, kemp, and Abrams.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (dNzKv)

280 The 2018 midterms really fucked us.
All the blame for that goes to the "Republicans" and Jeff Sessions.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue

Well, GOPe, Sessions and lots of 'special' votes.

Posted by: lizabth at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (L3Rsz)

281 you people don't get it. It's about humiliation and control. They don't care that you know the election was stolen. They did it right in everyone's view and we can't do a fucking thing about it.It's not enough for them to be corrupt - they want to be in your face with their corruption.

Posted by: steve at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (TTy55)

282 226 >>>Meanwhile, Sydney Powell is retweeting people demanding that Trump impose martial law, and Lin Wood is talking about a civil war.

And I don't disagree with them.


Well, that escalated quickly.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (UPoLF)

Slowly at first, then all at once. Like most shooting wars.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (ifmtJ)

283 223 This thread is going to give BiNO the vapors.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2020 05:17 PM (aQqRN)

He'll ignore all the video testimony and nitpick some "rabbit-hole" angle on Dominion, remaining vigilant to dodge the actual issue of whether votes were changed.
Posted by: Gilded at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (3VCGm)


For the 100th time, fraud almost certainly occurred via mail-in ballots. It is possible to believe that while also realizing that centering your legal strategy on ludicrous QAnon rumors is a bad idea (at best).

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (CQ3Qb)

284 Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2020 05:46 PM (CGdWK)

I figured you have worked with MI state government in the past based on your posts, and I mean that in a good way.
Other than shaking hands with my Reps, I've not been involved. And the result of that is to be governed by my inferiors, as Plato said.

Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (9UmRs)

285
Federal troops cannot be used for domestic law enforcement under the posse comitatus act. Coast guard is exempt from that.

National guard, if called up by the state governor, can be used for law enforcement (as far as federal law is concerned, state law may vary), but not if called up by the president.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 01, 2020 05:57 PM (UPoLF)

So, blaming Trump for the destruction of the liberal shitholes is, well, off base.........

What I thought.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (Zz0t1)

286
Posted by: Asshoes

You know nothing about President Trump or the last 5 years. Nothing.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (/xqqO)

287 Ace had National Review's number for years.

I foolishly held out hope that they weren't 100% hopeless.

I was wrong.

I won't be distracted anymore by any "conservative" outlet that holds out the red meat of social issues and outrageous progressive proposals -- while running crying to the corner of the playground and sucking their thumbs when push comes to shove.

Posted by: Oblivious at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (Astxw)

288 Even if SCOTUS came out and told the state legislatures that they need to select their own own elector's I wouldn't hold my breath.

I see states taking the same route the MLB did regarding the Astros. "Yeah, we know they cheated. But w've never had a situation like this before, and if we take away their win we are just admitting how corrupt our system is, and that will make us look bad. Besides, it's over and done with. Time to move on."

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (4+gTH)

289 >> That fuck was instrumental in convincing over 50 incumbents to not seek reelection in the 2018 midterms. That was a giant torpedo in the agenda.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 01, 2020 05:39 PM (s2VJv)
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Exactly.

In effect, the Republican Party donor class orchestrated the fake impeachment. And ran the click out for two years until they could support the steal.

Posted by: Gilded at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (3VCGm)

290 198 Count me in. Sick as a dog in late November and early December 2019. Full on lung fu hack.
Posted by: wth

Wife & I last week of December.
Posted by: rickb223

Me, first week of January - could not get out of bed for about 1.5 days, no appetite and fever. I thought it was the flu.
Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect

The Mrs and I in Feb 2020 - no sense of smell or taste and just an inkling of feeling under the weather for three days.

Then gone.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (Rvt88)

291 Romney skews right if Trump is gone. Back to his 'severe' conservativism. He'll save the country!

Posted by: lizabth at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (L3Rsz)

292
OK, so I think I've got it straight... a bunch of crooked pols run around screwing everyone over for decades while providing each other their precious "cover," so I vote for an outsider, who isn't part of this scam, and doesn't give or get the precious "cover," just like I asked for.

So then I'm supposed to be mad that he didn't play the game, and go back to those guys who do play it, and so then they'll have the "cover" they need to keep fucking me raw?

Sweet. Sounds awesome.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (BvLWD)

293 I don't have an extended attention period to find this. Can one of you guys tell me how the whistleblower(s) claim to know that there were ballots in their trailers? Was that what they were told by someone else, did they see them with their own eyes, or what?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (L106N)

294 matter

3. in response, these elected officials sit bored and half-asleep, checking their phones, and hurrying witnesses along after their three minute buzzer goes off, after which they bang the gavel, say meeting adjourned, and will do jack shit about any of it.


Posted by: pmurT at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (ojwvu)
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You didn't watch the same hearings I did.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (CZm2G)

295 The 2018 midterms really fucked us. <<<<<<<<<
To be fair, nobody really knows who was actually elected in that one either.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (r+sAi)

296 The irony of Trump is he demanded loyalty but gave none back. How many people did he not just fire, but publicly fired and then humiliated? You think that builds trust between other members of the cabinet? You think this makes quality people want to work in his admin?

The end result is when he needed allies the most - to fight the fraud - he had nobody.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (22mNy)

horse shit. chicken shit. you're a BINO sock, right?

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (YkawN)

297

"They don't care that you know the election was stolen. "

THEY RAN A DROOLING PEDO RAPIST OLD SENILE IMBECILE WHO HAD TO DROP OUT IN 88 BECAUSE HE IS AN INSANE LIAR.

Just had to get that off my chest.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (lg/F7)

298 This Michigan Dominion -Trained IT Contractor
talking about ballot re-scanning and ballots being counted 8-10 times- was mind-blowing to say the least:

https://tinyurl.com/yxeo85t8

Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (NpAcC)

299
Live Free or Die. Period.
Posted by: Mookie at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (3vIkC)

The Prometheus of the Die Hard franchise.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (Zz0t1)

300 Federal troops cannot be used for domestic law enforcement under the posse comitatus act. Coast guard is exempt from that.

National guard, if called up by the state governor, can be used for law enforcement (as far as federal law is concerned, state law may vary), but not if called up by the president.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes




Unless you are Eisenhower and you send the 101st Airborne into Little Rock.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (UYkjZ)

301 Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (d9Cw3)

We were being groomed. The decision had been made Trump would not be allowed a second term regardless of the election outcome. We haven't been offered a good explanation as to why the counting stopped simultaneously in Detroit, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Atlanta because there is no good explanation other than what happened, and that will not be admitted.

The furious blowback against the Evil Empire II has caught them a bit off guard, though. It is hilarious that this run-off is underway in Georgia. Otherwise, the GOPe would have demanded we all be arrested already. As Fox goes, the GOPe goes. And watch: the election in Georgia very well may be stolen and the GOPe will roll right over.

Ace is right. This is post-electoral politics now. Throw sand into the gears BAMN and denounce this government to the rest of the world.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (puu6v)

302 The irony of Trump is he demanded loyalty but gave none back. How many people did he not just fire, but publicly fired and then humiliated? You think that builds trust between other members of the cabinet? You think this makes quality people want to work in his admin?

The end result is when he needed allies the most - to fight the fraud - he had nobody.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (22mNy)

Well, I think what happened is that he somehow didn't realize that no one in DC would listen to him no matter what he did, hired a bunch of swamp creatures, and grew increasingly frustrated as they all worked against his policy objectives from day one.

It wasn't so much that he demanded loyalty and didn't show it back, it's that he had an entire government actively working to thwart him the entire time.

Which I'm sure was incredibly frustrating.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 01, 2020 06:02 PM (UPoLF)

303 This is the hill to die on, by end of January that old fuk Scrambled braijns will have us 11 or 12 million new voters, and that's the start. Mail voting will be the law for the whole country being such a winner for the Democrats.

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2020 06:02 PM (9sWOw)

304 Exactly.

In effect, the Republican Party donor class orchestrated the fake impeachment. And ran the click out for two years until they could support the steal.
Posted by: Gilded at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (3VCGm)
--------------

Mark Levin warned the GOP was going to get PDT impeached. I didn't see how it would happen, but, he was dead on the money.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 06:02 PM (WEBkv)

305 you people don't get it. It's about humiliation and control. They don't care that you know the election was stolen. They did it right in everyone's view and we can't do a fucking thing about it.It's not enough for them to be corrupt - they want to be in your face with their corruption.
Posted by: steve at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (TTy55)

It's like everything else. It's not enough to merely have the wealth, power, and luxury. They have to deny it to you, rub it in your face, and make you dance to their tune.

It's sadism, pure and simple.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 01, 2020 06:02 PM (Msrhc)

306 281
you people don't get it. It's about humiliation and control. They don't
care that you know the election was stolen. They did it right in
everyone's view and we can't do a fucking thing about it.It's not enough
for them to be corrupt - they want to be in your face with their
corruption.


Posted by: steve at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (TTy55)

I agree, but my guess is the majority of people don't care enough to be humiliated. If they do, they have a piss poor way of showing it!

Posted by: Mookie at December 01, 2020 06:02 PM (3vIkC)

307 Every time I tweet a link from here or another conservative website Twitter is making me re-log in, weird.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 01, 2020 06:02 PM (9MUJR)

308 Not on topic, but if I was a restaurant owner being charged with malicious occupancy and reckless enfoodening, I would confess and roll over on my elected government bosses who said it was perfectly ok since I was serving the right sort of people.

Posted by: Downcast at December 01, 2020 06:02 PM (Z7wGT)

309 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against
everyone, maybe he'd have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy
and Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (22mNy)

China's servants weren't, and aren't, going to become unbought by kindness.

Posted by: Methos at December 01, 2020 06:02 PM (kOpft)

310

The irony of Trump being a good President while at the same time delivering the country right into the hans of the scumsucking Commies...

A human tragedy.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 01, 2020 06:02 PM (lg/F7)

311 *sprays whipped cream directly into maw*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery

What about Paw ?

Posted by: JT at December 01, 2020 06:03 PM (arJlL)

312 Of all of the many potential terrible things in the future, I dread losing americasvoice.news and OANN . Okay even occasionally Newsmax.


Seems like a real alternative information source just got started. I don't to see them strangled in the cradle.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 06:03 PM (JWCyv)

313 alex, what are your thoughts on Powell?

Posted by: Nckate at December 01, 2020 06:03 PM (rEqap)

314 "Meanwhile, Sydney Powell is retweeting people demanding that Trump impose martial law, and Lin Wood is talking about a civil war.

And I don't disagree with them."

Careful now! Talk like that could get you banned!

Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2020 06:03 PM (nakwk)

315 ou can't win in politics by pissing off everyone. Trump learned that the hard way.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:48 PM (22mNy)

Two ways this could have been dealt with - go along with DC and the entrenched government there where building allies would have prevented alot of this but mean little progress, or torch it all down in the first month, banishing the EPA, FBI, CIA and DOJ headquarters out into America's hinterlands and dumping all of Obama's political appointees.

I'd vote for the latter.

Posted by: Boswell at December 01, 2020 06:03 PM (w2LAm)

316 Well, if Trump is playing to win, he needs to do something bold and unexpected, outside the box and he has to do it now.

Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect at December 01, 2020 06:04 PM (a0IVu)

317
Be Bush if you want to succeed as a Republican in politics.
Posted by: Sponge

I'm stealing this.
Posted by: Nikki Haley

Be Bush Better
Be Better Bush

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2020 06:04 PM (63Dwl)

318 in response, these elected officials sit bored and half-asleep, checking their phones, and hurrying witnesses along after their three minute buzzer goes off, after which they bang the gavel, say meeting adjourned, and will do jack shit about any of it.


Posted by: pmurT at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (ojwvu)
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You didn't watch the same hearings I did.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (CZm2G)
**************
I thought it was eye-opening and
It got a lot better as the hearing went on.
If you didn't watch it to the end you missed a lot.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2020 06:04 PM (NpAcC)

319 Civil War I too do not want...

I want -
SCOTUS to hand the election to Trump on a silver platter.
AntifaBLM will lose their shit and make their best try at civil war.
It is incidental to what I want.
It will be on them.

I will settle for -
The martial law thing...
Again, AntifaBLM will lose their shit and make their best try at civil war...

I will get a hundred years under the boot with ever increasing pressure. These despots are just practicing under Kung Flu lockdown and are chomping at the bit to stuffing ballot boxes without recourse, forever. In the end more will be lost than under the two above.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 01, 2020 06:04 PM (/Dgcm)

320 Romney will sell out, effectively making the Senate a 50 50 split, with Kamela being the tie breaker, even if the GOP gets to 51 seats.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 05:57 PM (WEBkv)

If the Dems get 50 in the Senate, Romney will flip parties. I mean officially.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 06:04 PM (GbPPJ)

321 >>>The end result is when he needed allies the most - to fight the fraud - he had nobody.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (22mNy)

======

Trump seemed to be always to give you the benefit of the doubt. He'e rather work with you than against you. But if your burn him, he will burn you back. It was that simple. I didn't see him burn any bridges first.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 01, 2020 06:04 PM (4+gTH)

322 Sometimes the only law that's left is martial.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 01, 2020 06:04 PM (oVJmc)

323 I wish McCarthy has been the leader from he beginning.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2020 05:53 PM (NpAcC)

McCarthy is just another wanker.

Posted by: Persona Non Grata at December 01, 2020 06:04 PM (w+Ped)

324 So do we know if Trump actually met with Barr today?

Posted by: It's me donna at December 01, 2020 06:05 PM (Zmnko)

325 alex, what are your thoughts on Powell?
Posted by: Nckate

NO whipped cream !

Posted by: JT at December 01, 2020 06:05 PM (arJlL)

326 95 ... If I have a single serious complaint against the man, it's that he didn't see the score in 2017 and just go nuclear on everyone around him. Fire everything with a pulse, and nominate horses and cows and chickens to replace them. Make the Senate vote on it.

They're all self-dealing statists with no guts and fewer principles. If he'd recognized early on that the fix was in, he might have been able to make it more of a "statement" Presidency.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2020 05:31 PM (BvLWD)

Outstanding.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey, now with an M1A and a shitload of .308 at December 01, 2020 06:05 PM (GlmxK)

327 Well, Dominion DID sell a lot of its Patents through a Canadian Front, to the Chinese.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 01, 2020 06:05 PM (d9rwJ)

328 So, blaming Trump for the destruction of the liberal shitholes is, well, off base.........

What I thought.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (Zz0t1)

Agreed.

There isn't a whole lot a president can do in that situation. He sent in US Marshalls and other federal law enforcement, who are limited in scope to enforcing federal laws (like protecting federal buildings).
But if local law enforcement doesn't want to cooperate with them, it gets ... tricky from both a legal and logistical standpoint.

See: ICE agents and "sanctuary cities"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 01, 2020 06:05 PM (UPoLF)

329 282 226 >>>Meanwhile, Sydney Powell is retweeting people demanding that Trump impose martial law, and Lin Wood is talking about a civil war.


Tweets are not for us.
Those tweets are meant to be seen by judges and and *normal*Dems so that they may reflect on the path that they choose.


Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 06:05 PM (CZm2G)

330 >>> "I believe this is what Paul Ryan was talking about when he said Trump had no idea how government works."

I always hated Sherman's March to the Sea, and the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but growing up and getting wiser, I get it. You have to go scorched earth sometimes so your demoralized enemies cannot rise again.

Trump needed to go Sherman in 2016, but he tried to play nice with the swamp, thinking they would play nice with him. Like Ned Stark, he is getting his head fitted for a pike from the left. And also from the turncoat GOP.

It was so dumb that Obama was obsessed with GoT, but it is clear he learned a LOT from how the Lannisters run things. And to not run things like Ned, idealistic but doomed.

Praying everyday to God, to save us form this madness, and for what is right to prevail.

Posted by: LizLem at December 01, 2020 06:06 PM (Rbfr/)

331 I read several cryptic stories in the MSM in the weeks before election day, that Trump may well have a sizeable lead in the Great Lakes states on election night, but it would not hold. Our media betters knew the fix was in and wanted to assure their voters not to panic based on actual ballots cast.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (d9Cw3)

Yes, they even had a cute name for it, the "red mirage". There was a video about it put out in late September, if memory serves. On top of that, the notices from Google, Twitter, FB, DDHQ for many months before the election that we wouldn't know the winner for weeks. This has never been the case in any of our lifetimes, so what did they know that everyone else didn't?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 01, 2020 06:06 PM (L106N)

332 1. elected republicans do nothing about election stealing
2. voting no longer matters so the people no longer vote
3. elected republicans quickly become defeated republicans

And they will go home, unelected, back to live amongst the people they looked down on and did nothing to help with the power vested to them.

I don't see it ending well for them, but if that's the way they want it to go, alright then...
Posted by: pmurT at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (ojwvu)

Doesn't the consultant class do well, as long as the rubes keep donating?

Posted by: The Grift never ends at December 01, 2020 06:06 PM (BBWrU)

333 *sprays whipped cream directly into maw*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery

That's hot.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 06:06 PM (Zz0t1)

334 NRO is acting like the Repubes who told Nixon not to contest.
Had he did and won, he'd never have gotten us into Nam by knocking off President Diem/
58,000 dead boys later.
yeah, lets lose with dignity.

Posted by: Avi at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (dHrq/)

335 Sen. Ed McBroom
( R ) 38th District - Vulcan
Chair


McBroom doesn't look like a Vulcan name.

Posted by: President-Elect Hands at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (786Ro)

336
If the Dems get 50 in the Senate, Romney will flip parties. I mean officially.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 06:04 PM (GbPPJ)
-----------------

Do you think Romney is stupid, vain or just completely oblivious to how much he is reviled by GOP voters?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (WEBkv)

337 For the 100th time, fraud almost certainly occurred via mail-in ballots. It is possible to believe that while also realizing that centering your legal strategy on ludicrous QAnon rumors is a bad idea (at best).
============================
Show us on the dolly where Qanon touched you, sugar.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (7Fj9P)

338 I felt the urge to watch Tucker
and then I said 'Bye

I had a yen for Maria
and then I got high

Posted by: JM in Florida at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (HCeRP)

339 328. Agreed.

Posted by: Rusty at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (+SloN)

340 I won't be distracted anymore by any "conservative" outlet that holds out the red meat of social issues and outrageous progressive proposals -- while running crying to the corner of the playground and sucking their thumbs when push comes to shove.
Posted by: Oblivious at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (Astxw)

Social issues are the boob bait they used to get you to sit up and clap like seals for the gutting of the American economy. Patriotism to get you to support sending our best kids to get maimed or die fighting to try to civilize middle east sh*tholes. Religion and charity to support unsustainable birth rates in Africa and other places. Sorry if that's harsh.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (YkawN)

341 It's about humiliation and control. They don't care that you know the election was stolen. They did it right in everyone's view and we can't do a fucking thing about it.It's not enough for them to be corrupt - they want to be in your face with their corruption.
Posted by: steve at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (TTy55)

Correct, but the very public outrage has them a bit surprised. Just as the Left sees Twitter as reality, the Left sees the controlled opposition of the GOPe as completely representative of people right-of-center. They are governing a very hostile population at this point. I don't know how this will end, but it will end. Even if the Left prevails, it will not be as cost-free as expected. Not at all.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (puu6v)

342
Be Bush Better
Be Better Bush
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 01, 2020 06:04 PM (63Dwl)

Be Better Bush.
Spare Feewings.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (Zz0t1)

343 333 *sprays whipped cream directly into maw*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery

That's hot.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 06:06 PM (Zz0t1)

Better than when Andrew Yang did it

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 06:08 PM (ifmtJ)

344 Planning.

OPSEC.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 01, 2020 06:08 PM (u82oZ)

345 If we go to martial law, I've got my uniform dry cleaned and ready:

https://tinyurl.com/y3pbnmoc

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 01, 2020 06:08 PM (Dc2NZ)

346 Doesn't the consultant class do well, as long as the rubes keep donating?
Posted by: The Grift never ends at December 01, 2020 06:06 PM (BBWrU)
------------------

If the country burns down, won't be much to consult, will there?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 06:08 PM (WEBkv)

347 Sorry, I mean 318. Agreed

Posted by: Rusty at December 01, 2020 06:08 PM (+SloN)

348 "Meanwhile, Sydney Powell is retweeting people demanding that Trump impose martial law, and Lin Wood is talking about a civil war.

And I don't disagree with them."

Careful now! Talk like that could get you banned!
Posted by: Insomniac at December 01, 2020 06:03 PM (nakwk)

=====

Just don't be using the r word.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 01, 2020 06:08 PM (4+gTH)

349 They are going to foist Jeb Bush and Nikki Hailey on us in 2024, aren't they...and they will lose oh so gracefully about 30 mins after the first polling station closes.

Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect at December 01, 2020 06:09 PM (a0IVu)

350 alex, what are your thoughts on Powell?
Posted by: Nckate at December 01, 2020 06:03 PM (rEqap)

Sidney Powell?

One of the very best appellate attorneys in this country and that is very rarefied air indeed. She knows her stuff, she knows how to craft cases to be in the best posture on appeal (which is NOT easy), and she has been there and done that with uncovering massive government malfeasance.

That said, it is possible that she is out over her skis. There's a reason that lawyers are told over and over and over again to never fall in love with your case.

But anyone who thinks that she is a crazed conspiracy theorist is so lacking in basic cognizance of empirical reality as to make all their other statements risible.

And that goes for NRO's passive aggressive Mean Girl bitchery in that editorial where NRO takes shots at her and Lin Wood and Rudy but refuses to use their name because they are pathetic little 13 year old girls who just got their first period.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at December 01, 2020 06:09 PM (GbPPJ)

351 If the Dems get 50 in the Senate, Romney will flip parties. I mean officially.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery

heck yeah he will


they already promised him unlimited bags of dicks

Posted by: Paul Ryan at December 01, 2020 06:09 PM (GIeIM)

352
Better than when Andrew Yang did it
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 06:08 PM (ifmtJ)

And it turtled.....

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 01, 2020 06:09 PM (Zz0t1)

353 #TwoWeeks

Posted by: andycanuck at December 01, 2020 06:09 PM (UDapT)

354 If we go to martial law, I've got my uniform dry cleaned and ready:

https://tinyurl.com/y3pbnmoc
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mac

!

Posted by: JT at December 01, 2020 06:09 PM (arJlL)

355 @TracyLConnors 4h
These 15,515 inactive voters in GA were so inspired by the extremely active Joe Biden, that they decided to vote for him in 2020!

29% moved out of state, 50% contact by county officials failed, 21% undeliverable mail

Posted by: What was the GA margin again? at December 01, 2020 06:10 PM (BBWrU)

356 Praying everyday to God, to save us form this madness, and for what is right to prevail.
Posted by: LizLem at December 01, 2020 06:06 PM (Rbfr/)

This too.

Lots of ways to fight a war.

If you can't pull a trigger, you can drive, load, spray paint, put up signs, fog cameras, or just pray. A LOT.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 06:10 PM (ifmtJ)

357 Do you think Romney is stupid, vain or just completely oblivious to how much he is reviled by GOP voters?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (WEBkv)

He is a horrible human being. Vulture capitalist. Took over companies, forced them into debt, ran away with the assets they bought with the debt, and the companies died. Paul Singer is the same.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 06:10 PM (YkawN)

358 The end result is when he needed allies the most - to fight the fraud - he had nobody.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:55 PM (22mNy)

You are off your rocker on this. The establishment was never going to deal with him no matter what he did. And Kemp isn't helping Trump because he's mad at him. He just want's Trump gone to continue to grift.

Posted by: WOPR - Over the top lads, this time it will be differnt at December 01, 2020 06:10 PM (J70i0)

359 Levin is with me I think, everything is on the line.

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2020 06:10 PM (9sWOw)

360 Martial Martial Martial

Posted by: Jan Law at December 01, 2020 06:10 PM (63Dwl)

361 What do we really think the likelihood of a Civil War is, realistically? The only chance would be where, exactly??

Posted by: tubal at December 01, 2020 06:10 PM (bCLt0)

362 @292 Yudishthira's Dice-I see you're reading the same thing I am and I can't believe it either.

Posted by: JROD at December 01, 2020 06:11 PM (0jZnq)

363 Sometimes the only law that's left is martial.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles




Sometimes the only law that's left is marital.

Don't cross the Mrs.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 01, 2020 06:11 PM (UYkjZ)

364

oh, and this is not the hill to die on

Posted by: Paul Ryan at December 01, 2020 06:11 PM (GIeIM)

365 Yes, they even had a cute name for it, the "red mirage". There was a video about it put out in late September, if memory serves. On top of that, the notices from Google, Twitter, FB, DDHQ for many months before the election that we wouldn't know the winner for weeks. This has never been the case in any of our lifetimes, so what did they know that everyone else didn't?
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 01, 2020 06:06 PM (L106N)

I agree. I've found that highly suspicious. They were saying things like "on election night, it'll look like Trumps ahead, but by the next week, it'll be clear Biden won." while they were also saying that Biden was leading by healthy margins in every swing state in the polls, with some polls even showing double digit national leads for Biden.

And don't forget, there were several media run "war gaming" scenarios that involved SCOTUS and Generals (I think Toobin was playing a SCOTUS justice when he got caught Toobinin') which seemed VERY odd to me at the time.

It's like they knew something we didn't know.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 01, 2020 06:11 PM (UPoLF)

366 >you people don't get it. It's about humiliation and control. They don't care that you know the election was stolen. They did it right in everyone's view and we can't do a fucking thing about it.It's not enough for them to be corrupt - they want to be in your face with their corruption.
Posted by: steve at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (TTy55)

Uh, quite a few of us have pointed that out in the last few weeks.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 01, 2020 06:11 PM (L106N)

367 That said, why is the conservative blogosphere still telling us to buck
up and keep voting Republican because you have no choice.

You always have choices.

Hell, Don Jr. is out there promoting voting for Loeffler and Perdue.

Fuck that noise, Jr.

Neither Perdue nor Kelly Loeffler's Twitter feeds contain the word "fraud". Neither one has said a word about supporting Trump or fixing the fraud as they are too fucking busy saving their own seats at the trough.


Better no firewall than a Chinese-owned firewall.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 05:56 PM (JWCyv)


Don't be so stupid. Seriously.

Even if Trump wins the White House,

if the Dims win both the House and the Senate, then-

Trump is impeached and gets the boot.

Game over.

And Pence will get impeached as well.

Then Nancy Pelosi is Preezy.


For fuck's sake, think like one step ahead.

A GA senatorial win is just as important as a Trump win.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 01, 2020 06:11 PM (dWwl8)

368 Social issues are the boob bait they used to get you to sit up and clap like seals for the gutting of the American economy. Patriotism to get you to support sending our best kids to get maimed or die fighting to try to civilize middle east sh*tholes. Religion and charity to support unsustainable birth rates in Africa and other places. Sorry if that's harsh.
Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (YkawN)


Which Rush album are those lyrics from, again?

Posted by: President-Elect Hands at December 01, 2020 06:12 PM (786Ro)

369 292
OK, so I think I've got it straight... a bunch of crooked pols run around screwing everyone over for decades while providing each other their precious "cover," so I vote for an outsider, who isn't part of this scam, and doesn't give or get the precious "cover," just like I asked for.

So then I'm supposed to be mad that he didn't play the game, and go back to those guys who do play it, and so then they'll have the "cover" they need to keep fucking me raw?

Sweet. Sounds awesome.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (BvLWD)
-------------

Well put.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 01, 2020 06:12 PM (WEBkv)

370 Social issues are the boob bait they used to get you to sit up and clap like seals for the gutting of the American economy. Patriotism to get you to support sending our best kids to get maimed or die fighting to try to civilize middle east sh*tholes. Religion and charity to support unsustainable birth rates in Africa and other places. Sorry if that's harsh.
Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (YkawN)

Harsh or not, it is true. Purported pro-lifers such as the fat fuck Erickson mentioned in the sidebar knew there was an open USSC seat and still went Never Trump in 2016. These types are all frauds.

Disengage from the system and treat it as the illegitimate train wreck it truly is. Mock it. Throw sands in the gears. Don't get sucked into their next shallow trick such as a False Flag terror attack in a Red area to get the rubes to rally 'round the flag. Know the enemy is in D.C. and respond accordingly if you decide to respond at all.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 01, 2020 06:12 PM (puu6v)

371 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at December 01, 2020 06:08 PM (Dc2NZ)


I like your crop

Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 06:13 PM (CZm2G)

372 I'm afraid:
It don't mean nothing. Not a thing, not a thing...

Posted by: Archer at December 01, 2020 06:13 PM (gmo/4)

373 And don't forget, there were several media run "war gaming" scenarios ...
And the one they ran with a "pandemic" was called "dark winter".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2020 06:13 PM (r+sAi)

374 I do not think they care, at all, what we think about their actions. They believe we are powerless, so we can be ignored, unless we get too uppity.

Posted by: tubal at December 01, 2020 06:14 PM (bCLt0)

375 I see states taking the same route the MLB did regarding the Astros. "Yeah, we know they cheated. But w've never had a situation like this before, and if we take away their win we are just admitting how corrupt our system is, and that will make us look bad. Besides, it's over and done with. Time to move on."
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 01, 2020 06:00 PM (4+gTH)

======

"America is too big to fail." will be the justification, in that scenario.

Funny, if you told that to Thomas Jefferson he'd raise his eyebrows and staunchly disagree. I bet he would have been surprised to see the union last a hundred years, let alone 250. Power is too easily corruptive by the few and freedom too irresistible by the many. The tree of liberty trimmed with the blood of patriots and tyrants must be the result.

Posted by: pmurT at December 01, 2020 06:14 PM (ojwvu)

376
The oath is still paramount. I fight again, it will be in fulfillment of that oath, with an addendum--my family's well being.

Don't expect to survive it, but I WILL make my presence known, and more than a few will regret that.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 01, 2020 06:14 PM (KATBx)

377 For the 100th time, fraud almost certainly occurred via mail-in ballots.
It is possible to believe that while also realizing that centering your
legal strategy on ludicrous QAnon rumors is a bad idea (at best).

I don't care about the legal strategy. Any legal system that allows this fraud to stand is illegitimate to me - no better than whatever system the Soviets lived under. Any government that allows this to stand is equally as oppressive in my view.

I'm incapable of leading a one man crusade against such a sham. I simply don't know how and lack the means. But I can sure as Hell no longer support it. I understand some here take great pride at singing the songs, waving the banners, and saying the pledges of our current government. Well - I'm not wedded to such notions. Unless and until this fraud of an election if rectified - count me out. Keep your flags and fireworks. This is simply the regime I live under, nothing more. Uncle Sam need no longer apply for my willing support.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 01, 2020 06:14 PM (kwJM2)

378
If we go to martial law, I've got my uniform dry cleaned and ready:



https://tinyurl.com/y3pbnmoc

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mac




Are you going with the Totenkopf or Picklehaube?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2020 06:14 PM (aQqRN)

379 You didn't watch the same hearings I did.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (CZm2G)

Did you see any of my elected reps in MI say one damn thing about not seating Democrat electors due to the blatant cheating? I sure didn't.

Posted by: clutch at December 01, 2020 06:14 PM (9UmRs)

380 what little I saw of it

I really hated HS

and now

everything is HS

JFC on Friday

Posted by: REDACTED at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (MIsHM)

381 if the Dims win both the House and the Senate, then-

Trump is impeached and gets the boot.



Two-thirds needed in the Senate for conviction. Trump stays.

Posted by: Mookie at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (3vIkC)

382 Did you commit election fraud to assist Joe Biden in the 2020 election?

No.

Do you know of anybody who committed election fraud to help Joe Biden win the 2020 election?

No

Whelp, we tried! We are at an investigative impasse!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (dNzKv)

383 361 What do we really think the likelihood of a Civil War is, realistically? The only chance would be where, exactly??
Posted by: tubal at December 01, 2020 06:10 PM (bCLt0)

If the Kneelers are the majority?
You'll still see shooting come Electoral College results/Inauguration day. But it will be sporadic and probably suppressible by local LE.

If Fighters are the majority, it'll be like The Troubles, nation wide. DNC offices firebombed. Election officials shotgunned. Police chiefs sniped. City Councilmen ambushed in their cars by riflemen on motorbikes. Everywhere, all at once, with no center and no co-ordination, I'd guess.

I can't tell you the odds though, of one way or another.

But if Trump wins...same deal. BLM and ANTIFA will burn cities and the local PD will let them.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (ifmtJ)

384 Do you think it just might be time to cross the streams?

Posted by: Archer at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (gmo/4)

385 The fix was in. The Left was telling us it would be. The Wuflu hysteria was used to fraudulently steal the election. If the fraud is allowed to stand I will consider the contract to be null and void.

Posted by: f'd at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (yTykr)

386 What do we really think the likelihood of a Civil War is, realistically?

I asked this earlier - is this a Civil War? With all the focus on the political and legal stuff the 800 lb gorilla in the room gets ignored.
If China did all this , including buying our election infrastructure in order to manipulate our elections then it seems to me that this in a invasion by a foreign enemy. The bought political and Big Tech puppets are all Communist collaborators and should be dealt with as such.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (JWCyv)

387 unless we get too uppity.
Posted by: tubal at December 01, 2020 06:14 PM (bCLt0)


we are getting uppity. '
Those Michiganers were getting mighty uppity today

Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (CZm2G)

388
Sweet. Sounds awesome.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (BvLWD)

Nailed it. The United States is irreparably damaged. It is a combination of delusion and infantilism to think the GOP is even about to try CPR let alone hope the corpse twitches.

Trump represented the worst case scenario because he forced his purported political party to produce its death certificate.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (puu6v)

389 McBroom doesn't look like a Vulcan name.
Posted by: President-Elect Hands at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (786Ro)

Maybe his first name is Surak?

Posted by: Boswell at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (w2LAm)

390 They believe we are powerless, so we can be ignored, unless we get too uppity. <<<<<<<<<<<
Well, keith olbermann already said Trump supporters should be rounded up and shot.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2020 06:16 PM (r+sAi)

391 384 Do you think it just might be time to cross the streams?
Posted by: Archer at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (gmo/4)


Just mix them.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 06:16 PM (CZm2G)

392 If the Dems get 50 in the Senate, Romney will flip parties. I mean officially.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery

heck yeah he will


they already promised him unlimited bags of dicks
Posted by: Paul Ryan at December 01, 2020 06:09 PM (GIeIM)


I think he's gonna flip even if Perdue and Mrs. NYSE miraculously win their Senate runoffs. Maybe even get Murkowski to go along with him. And Sasse? If not party switch, at least go Independent.

Posted by: President-Elect Hands at December 01, 2020 06:16 PM (786Ro)

393 "281 you people don't get it. It's about humiliation and control. They don't care that you know the election was stolen. They did it right in everyone's view and we can't do a fucking thing about it.It's not enough for them to be corrupt - they want to be in your face with their corruption.

Posted by: steve at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (TTy55) "



yup, that's part of the kink.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 01, 2020 06:16 PM (/On2j)

394 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 06:10 PM (ifmtJ)

Thanks, Mark, for the encouragement, because I don't have a gun or ammo, but I certainly do and can pray-A LOT, and can do the other things you mention.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 01, 2020 06:16 PM (WkPC9)

395 well..biden cheated...so we should probably fight back. At least push our legal challenges, when's that safe harbor date? where's our SCOTUS appeal? Are we getting the House State delegations in order?

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 01, 2020 06:17 PM (Zo5aG)

396 I don't have an extended attention period to find this. Can one of you guys tell me how the whistleblower(s) claim to know that there were ballots in their trailers? Was that what they were told by someone else, did they see them with their own eyes, or what?
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (L106N)


Any OTR driver here?

I have have a little experience... loading...
Maybe they witnessed the loading. Had a manifest?

Here it is on the manifest -
- 100,000 forged ballots for Biden.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 01, 2020 06:17 PM (/Dgcm)

397 I saw Marshall Law open for Sue Vide at the Palladium, 1971

Posted by: REDACTED at December 01, 2020 06:17 PM (MIsHM)

398 Nood

Posted by: Furious George at December 01, 2020 06:17 PM (9vQJW)

399 NOOD Shatner

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 01, 2020 06:17 PM (Do5/p)

400 What do we really think the likelihood of a Civil War is, realistically?

How much Leftism will you take being stuffed down your throat?

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2020 06:18 PM (9sWOw)

401 Even if the gop gets 51, romney will vote with dems on the important stuff. Let's not kid ourselves about who these people are.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2020 06:18 PM (r+sAi)

402 Trump represented the worst case scenario because he forced his purported political party to produce its death certificate.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat

---> the GOP is supposed to "lose with dignity" not fight like yucky people

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at December 01, 2020 06:18 PM (Zo5aG)

403 >Social issues are the boob bait they used to get you to sit up and clap like seals for the gutting of the American economy. Patriotism to get you to support sending our best kids to get maimed or die fighting to try to civilize middle east sh*tholes. Religion and charity to support unsustainable birth rates in Africa and other places. Sorry if that's harsh.
Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 06:07 PM (YkawN)

You're not wrong. I've had my fill of Cryin' Eagle Trucon media for quite a few years now.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 01, 2020 06:18 PM (L106N)

404 NOOD Kirk

Posted by: josephistan at December 01, 2020 06:19 PM (Izzlo)

405 I crossed streams with a tank roosting skank

Greenville Ave Bar and Grill

1978

Posted by: REDACTED at December 01, 2020 06:19 PM (MIsHM)

406 I'm incapable of leading a one man crusade against such a sham. I simply don't know how and lack the means. But I can sure as Hell no longer support it. I understand some here take great pride at singing the songs, waving the banners, and saying the pledges of our current government. Well - I'm not wedded to such notions. Unless and until this fraud of an election if rectified - count me out. Keep your flags and fireworks. This is simply the regime I live under, nothing more. Uncle Sam need no longer apply for my willing support.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 01, 2020 06:14 PM (kwJM2)

For me, the break point is inauguration. The moment Biden becomes President, the US government is no longer legitimate. Legitimacy only comes from the consent of the governed, it cannot come from a stolen election.

Any government emplaced by the results of a fraudulent election is illegitimate.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 01, 2020 06:19 PM (Msrhc)

407 283 223 This thread is going to give BiNO the vapors.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 01, 2020 05:17 PM (aQqRN)

He'll ignore all the video testimony and nitpick some "rabbit-hole" angle on Dominion, remaining vigilant to dodge the actual issue of whether votes were changed.
Posted by: Gilded at December 01, 2020 05:52 PM (3VCGm)


For the 100th time, fraud almost certainly occurred via mail-in ballots. It is possible to believe that while also realizing that centering your legal strategy on ludicrous QAnon rumors is a bad idea (at best).
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 01, 2020 05:59 PM (CQ3Qb)

For the 100th time, the data indicates fraud of the sort that Sidney alleges also occurred, and was likely the main cause. That is there was systematic fraud on a small scale going on in R districts in favor of Biden.

Conventional human-touch fraud appears to only account for around 3-5 million fraudulent votes.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 01, 2020 06:19 PM (Zm+LZ)

408 Gotta have a manifest

Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 06:19 PM (CZm2G)

409 like menelaus in the corolianus play, of course we got his comeuppance,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at December 01, 2020 06:20 PM (hMlTh)

410 There's no realistic chance of civil war or even civil disobedience. Not from the right. If there was, some on the right would already be threatening the well being of legislators and their families. Hell, ordinary folks have been having their livelihoods destroyed for months. Violence? Nope. I'm not saying that with any judgment. It just is what it is.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 01, 2020 06:20 PM (H5knJ)

411 Nailed it. The United States is irreparably damaged. It is a combination of delusion and infantilism to think the GOP is even about to try CPR let alone hope the corpse twitches.

Trump represented the worst case scenario because he forced his purported political party to produce its death certificate.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (puu6v)


I don't think many people here really took the "uniparty" stuff that some of us have been talking about for like 10 years to heart.

I don't understand why ANYONE is surprised that the GOP is not fighting to try to help Trump. He wasn't part of their plan. Everyone in DC, regardless of party, wanted him out from the moment it became clear he got elected.

In other words -- there really isn't a difference between someone with an "R" or a "D" after their name -- they are all just playing a big game, and are getting rich in the process.

Oh -- and they're not the real power in DC, either.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 01, 2020 06:20 PM (UPoLF)

412 3. in response, these elected officials sit bored and half-asleep, checking their phones, and hurrying witnesses along after their three minute buzzer goes off, after which they bang the gavel, say meeting adjourned, and will do jack shit about any of it.


Posted by: pmurT at December 01, 2020 05:54 PM (ojwvu)
----------------

You didn't watch the same hearings I did.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (CZm2G)

++++++++

I admit my disappointment might have skewed my conclusion, but I'll say this.

The most outspoken voice in the room was Sen. Lucido and, despite how clearly frustrated he was by the evidence of fraud, the most telling thing he said was "did you turn this in to the atty general of our state?"

You mean the liberal lesbian democrat atty general of Michigan? Yeah, I'm sure she'll get right on prosecuting all this fraud.

The second most telling thing was "we're legislators. we're policy makers. What can we do about it?"

Not a one of them wants to seat their own electors. They have completely set aside that responsibility. Without that, they're playing chess without a queen.

I just can't get over these lawmakers asking ordinary citizens "what are we supposed to do?" and "what's the solution here?"

Like, what the fuck did the people vote for you for? Do your job, that's the solution.

These state legs have the national spotlight on them for the first time in their lives. Before this no one in America cared about their small town hick policies and laws about road conditions and Sunday alcohol bans.

But now that the Republic hangs in the balance, these dweebs have the queen mother of all spotlights on them and they are withering like a flower on the sun. They can't wait to punt this ball and get out of the light.

That's my take, sorry it's cynical.

And yet, despite that, I still maintain that this will be solved by SCOTUS telling these states "your shit stinks, seat your own electors."

And then, THEN, these state houses (Michigan included) will have the political cover to do what they should have done already.

Posted by: pmurT at December 01, 2020 06:22 PM (ojwvu)

413 These hearings have been great for getting evidence and info out to the public. But, has it done anything to sway these legislators to do their proper constitutional duty? Sure does not feel like it.

On top of everything, this feels like a psy-op where as soon as anything positive happens (or should happen), there is someone on the right to come out and shit all over the news.

Barr today was a prime example. Like magic, everyone in the media is quoting him about "no evidence" and literally all the evidence we just heard about in MI is disappeared.

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 01, 2020 06:22 PM (SScvq)

414 >>> If the Dems get 50 in the Senate, Romney will flip parties. I mean officially
---
Not unlikely. But EVERY Republican works for the same donor class that the Dems work for. They audition for the donors just like Sandy the bartender did.

True, GOP donor class only blows the cover of its agents as needed. But, if needed, they are all owned.

A few designated bad guys helps to conceal the reality from the base. But there is not a single one who has stood by POTUS.

Posted by: Gilded at December 01, 2020 06:22 PM (n+vgX)

415 The GOP had its best national electoral showing since Reagan on Nov 3, and is poised to lose the House, Senate and White House because its leadership is some combination of weak and corrupt. The GOP deserves to die. If conservatives are interested in having some polutical influence for the next 50 years, they should join the Democratic party and fight from within.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at December 01, 2020 06:22 PM (evxBY)

416 What do you think will happen if in the morning the GA gov and SOS wake up and find all their assets have been seized? They can't even buy a fucking coffee.

I dunno I think that would raise some eyebrows. You don't need martial law yet. Squeeze them where it hurts and they will bow. Start with those jagoffs and work up from there.

Posted by: Ward at December 01, 2020 06:23 PM (nzKWW)

417 if the Dims win both the House and the Senate, then-

Trump is impeached and gets the boot.



Two-thirds needed in the Senate for conviction. Trump stays.
Posted by: Mookie at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (3vIkC)
*************
And nothing gets done.
If Trump does not win then it's still about saving the Republic.
Make DC a state, reparations, pack the court, good bye 1st & 2nd Amendment.
Do you really think they won't come after this blog for hate speech?

Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2020 06:23 PM (NpAcC)

418 Lord, I hope you are right, pmurT.

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 01, 2020 06:23 PM (SScvq)

419 If the Kneelers are the majority?
You'll still see shooting come Electoral College results/Inauguration day. But it will be sporadic and probably suppressible by local LE.

If Fighters are the majority, it'll be like The Troubles, nation wide. DNC offices firebombed. Election officials shotgunned. Police chiefs sniped. City Councilmen ambushed in their cars by riflemen on motorbikes. Everywhere, all at once, with no center and no co-ordination, I'd guess.

I can't tell you the odds though, of one way or another.

But if Trump wins...same deal. BLM and ANTIFA will burn cities and the local PD will let them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 01, 2020 06:15 PM (ifmtJThe f


First shooting related to Biden being inaugurated will lead to gun confiscation on his first full day. Then the real shooting starts. 150yrs from now people will still argue over the root cause, just like CW1.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 01, 2020 06:23 PM (CQ3Qb)

420 >And don't forget, there were several media run "war gaming" scenarios that involved SCOTUS and Generals (I think Toobin was playing a SCOTUS justice when he got caught Toobinin') which seemed VERY odd to me at the time.

It's like they knew something we didn't know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 01, 2020 06:11 PM (UPoLF)

Exactly. And why was the media involved in post-election wargaming with political orgs that mostly involved gaming out a bunch of martial law-type scenarios? Rhetorical question of course.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 01, 2020 06:24 PM (L106N)

421 I like the way you think, Ward. Start with GA and WI - those seem like the closest places to a win.

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 01, 2020 06:24 PM (SScvq)

422 For the 100th time, the data indicates fraud of the sort that Sidney alleges also occurred, and was likely the main cause. That is there was systematic fraud on a small scale going on in R districts in favor of Biden.

Conventional human-touch fraud appears to only account for around 3-5 million fraudulent votes.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 01, 2020 06:19 PM (Zm+LZ)


I've looked high and low for such data to indicate the voting machines were hacked to switch votes and cannot find it.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 01, 2020 06:25 PM (CQ3Qb)

423 282 226 >>>Meanwhile, Sydney Powell is retweeting people demanding that Trump impose martial law, and Lin Wood is talking about a civil war.


Tweets are not for us.
Those tweets are meant to be seen by judges and and *normal*Dems so that they may reflect on the path that they choose.


Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 06:05 PM (CZm2G)

Exactly. The SC judges read, see the news, follow blogs, and know of the evidence being presented in these hearings. These hearings are two fold purposed. To get this info out to the court now, and to open up the publics eyes to know that their legislators have also been presented this info.

Jack Straw might be shocked by this statement, but I want Trump to fire Barr right now. Immediately. That crap he said today about not substantiating any evidence of fraud is now being parroted all over the news and internet. All he had to say was that the FBI was currently not involved in evaluating fraud. He said what he said on purpose. He knew the media would run with that. There is no reason to not have an interim AG, Barr is going to be fired as soon as Biden is inaugurated anyway. Barr has to know this, why he is deliberately sabotaging Trump is beyond me.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2020 06:25 PM (CGdWK)

424 So sorry you all picked up my mood and thoughts last night.

Try not to lose it, keep quiet about your thought and plans.

I was unsuccessful, you guys shouldn't be unsuccessful with me.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at December 01, 2020 06:26 PM (VcFUs)

425 413 These hearings have been great for getting evidence and info out to the public. But, has it done anything to sway these legislators to do their proper constitutional duty? Sure does not feel like it.

On top of everything, this feels like a psy-op where as soon as anything positive happens (or should happen), there is someone on the right to come out and shit all over the news.

Barr today was a prime example. Like magic, everyone in the media is quoting him about "no evidence" and literally all the evidence we just heard about in MI is disappeared.
Posted by: Eli Cash at December 01, 2020 06:22 PM (SScvq)


Phone calls must continue. If the phone calls continue they will do something positive. to protect their job
--

I'm eager to hear JackStraw's defense or interpretation of Barr.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 01, 2020 06:27 PM (CZm2G)

426 157 Smells more like a payout than a buyout. And if it was in October, then that was likely too late to make anything bad actually happen - it takes a while to develop and activate new stuff.

What makes October make sense, though? A second payment. I'll bet that if they go back far enough - sometime after 2016 but well before October - they'll find a similar amount from similar sources. Half upfront, half on delivery. Just like getting a roof put in.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 01, 2020 05:42 PM (hYcqw)

I'm late to the thread.. but a transaction like this doesn't start and end in the month the cash changed hands... for real purchases of this magnatude there are months of due diligence and negotiations... months. That is for purchases on the up and up... there is no reason to believe there wasn't months of here is what we can do if you buy us for 5 times what we are worth and it closed in October to seal it. Sure.. I don't know if it happened.. I don't have that info.. but it would have started WAY befor October.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 01, 2020 06:27 PM (+2xjH)

427 If Fighters are the majority, it'll be like The Troubles, nation wide.
------------------------------
I understand TV news crews usually drive around in clearly-marked vans and the like too.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 01, 2020 06:28 PM (UDapT)

428 THEY RAN A DROOLING PEDO RAPIST OLD SENILE IMBECILE WHO HAD TO DROP OUT IN 88 BECAUSE HE IS AN INSANE LIAR.

Just had to get that off my chest.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (lg/F7)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. WAIT... THAT'S NOT FUNNY.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBURGER at December 01, 2020 06:33 PM (v0R5T)

429 I've looked high and low for such data to indicate the voting machines were hacked to switch votes and cannot find it.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 01, 2020 06:25 PM (CQ3Qb)

there are affidavits out there showing vote totals doing weird things.

Like total number of votes counted going DOWN.

There are also 4 Counties where they were suddenly counting mail in ballots MUCH faster than the machines in those locations COULD possibly count votes.

To the tune of more than 100K votes.

There are also places where vote totals were being sent to a central location on unsecure thumb drives, with no chain of custody. There are affidavits saying they just 'kept finding' more thumb drives with votes on them.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 01, 2020 06:34 PM (d9rwJ)

430 428 THEY RAN A DROOLING PEDO RAPIST OLD SENILE IMBECILE WHO HAD TO DROP OUT IN 88 BECAUSE HE IS AN INSANE LIAR.

Just had to get that off my chest.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 01, 2020 06:01 PM (lg/F7)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. WAIT... THAT'S NOT FUNNY.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBURGER at December 01, 2020 06:33 PM (v0R5T)

And yet somehow, people were so enthusiastic about him, that he had a HISTORIC number of votes.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 01, 2020 06:35 PM (d9rwJ)

431 Exactly. The SC judges read, see the news, follow blogs, and know of the evidence being presented in these hearings. These hearings are two fold purposed. To get this info out to the court now, and to open up the publics eyes to know that their legislators have also been presented this info.

Jack Straw might be shocked by this statement, but I want Trump to fire Barr right now. Immediately. That crap he said today about not substantiating any evidence of fraud is now being parroted all over the news and internet. All he had to say was that the FBI was currently not involved in evaluating fraud. He said what he said on purpose. He knew the media would run with that. There is no reason to not have an interim AG, Barr is going to be fired as soon as Biden is inaugurated anyway. Barr has to know this, why he is deliberately sabotaging Trump is beyond me.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2020 06:25 PM (CGdWK)
************
Barr went to the WH today and I hoped Trump would have put him in a rom turned on OANN played the MI hearings and said, "what do you have to say about this, Bill?"

Posted by: redridinghood at December 01, 2020 06:36 PM (NpAcC)

432 I want Trump to fire Barr right now. Immediately. That crap he said today about not substantiating any evidence of fraud is now being parroted all over the news and internet. All he had to say was that the FBI was currently not involved in evaluating fraud. He said what he said on purpose. He knew the media would run with that. There is no reason to not have an interim AG, Barr is going to be fired as soon as Biden is inaugurated anyway. Barr has to know this, why he is deliberately sabotaging Trump is beyond me.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 01, 2020 06:25 PM (CGdWK)

It is CYA/insurance for Barr with those not in on his grift, an attempt to fend off some uninformed left-wing loon running around D.C. thinking Billy Bagpipes needs to be offed. When it emerged early this year that Barr was the sweeper who covered up for FBI sniper/murderer Lon Horiuchi, it became glaringly obvious nothing would be done about the coup attempt. It would be nice if POTUS told us who recommended Barr, though.

So, yes, you are one hundred percent correct. Fire Barr. Or do something Trumpy like give him the option either to resign or tell the world he will declassify the Trump/Russia collusion hoax at the end of a bayonet if necessary (no doubt he will resign; the appointment of Durham as SC was to give a pretext to not declassifying these documents).

Trump has been the most important president of our lifetimes, largely inadvertently, because he forced the system to reveal how utterly corrupted and unsalvageable it is now.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 01, 2020 06:37 PM (puu6v)

433 416 What do you think will happen if in the morning the GA gov and SOS wake up and find all their assets have been seized? They can't even buy a fucking coffee.

I dunno I think that would raise some eyebrows. You don't need martial law yet. Squeeze them where it hurts and they will bow. Start with those jagoffs and work up from there.
Posted by: Ward at December 01, 2020 06:23 PM (nzKWW)

Amen, this would be a good place to start.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 06:40 PM (YkawN)

434 One thing remains true: these GOP Quislings are not enviable. Everyone sees through them. Everyone reviles them. Especially their donor/owners.

Posted by: Gilded at December 01, 2020 06:40 PM (n+vgX)

435 I remember when the Russia Hoax proof was an internet Q rumor.

Good times.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at December 01, 2020 06:41 PM (ySQBZ)

436 If Trump manages to pull this out, blue cities will burn. I don't care. I hope every one of them burn to the ground. I don't care about the people that live there. They were warned and if they were too stupid to leave, then too bad. If they start burning red cities, we will fight. We have to because we won't let our families die. We will fight back and take as many of them with us as possible.

Posted by: megthered at December 01, 2020 06:42 PM (SM/op)

437 Well, keith olbermann already said Trump supporters should be rounded up and shot.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 01, 2020 06:16 PM (r+sAi)

Keith Olberman strikes me as all talk, a "Let's you and him fight" kind of wimp

Posted by: JM in Florida at December 01, 2020 06:47 PM (HCeRP)

438 >>>That crap he said today about not substantiating any evidence of fraud is now being parroted all over the news and internet.
---

That was the point.

Pairs well with: Even (GOP) Fox News admitted...

Posted by: Gilded at December 01, 2020 06:48 PM (n+vgX)

439 435 I remember when the Russia Hoax proof was an internet Q rumor.

Good times.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at December 01, 2020 06:41 PM (ySQBZ)

BiNo the RiNo could prove it!!!!

Posted by: Gilded at December 01, 2020 06:53 PM (n+vgX)

440 Posted by: megthered at December 01, 2020 06:42 PM (SM/op)

I don't see a whole lot of folks rioting for dementia Joe and Kopmala. Maybe a few blocks of selected blue cities get the burn loot murder treatment, but who cares?

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 01, 2020 06:54 PM (YkawN)

441 But Billy Barr doesn't see any evidence of election fraud!

Antifa & BLM would gain a helluva lot more supporters if they dragged Bill Barr out of his house and executed the fat piece of shit right in the streets. People across America would finally be unified.

One of the main reasons we are losing America is because we no longer have the rule of law, at least when it comes to Democrat crimes.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at December 01, 2020 06:54 PM (lRrON)

442 I saw woke AoS commenters earlier saying that calling for extreme measures to combat an electoral coup that it means the lawsuits don't have any merit.

I think in order to prove that there was voter fraud on a massive scale, we must allow Biden to take the Oval Office or else we look bad.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 01, 2020 06:55 PM (aI2NW)

443 The only way we avoid Civil War is if Biden is prevented from stealing the election.

Though, I suppose if only a few of us have the guts to stand up in that event, then we'll get mowed down pretty quickly, and the rest of you pathetic limp-wrists will shackle yourselves, or maybe each other. F you, Ace.

Posted by: Andy Stern at December 01, 2020 06:56 PM (vnze2)

444 If only Trump hadn't gone scorched earth against everyone, maybe he'd
have some allies in this fight. Instead he has Rudy and Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 01, 2020 05:24 PM (22mNy)


Asshoes this is idiot talk.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 01, 2020 07:17 PM (946rW)

445 You Morons can find BOC Marshall plan yourselves.

Posted by: DaveA at December 01, 2020 08:03 PM (FhXTo)

446 Did Trump exit Barr out the same door B+try used to exit the Dalai Lama?

Posted by: torabora at December 01, 2020 09:12 PM (Y274z)

447 But Ballsy Two Front Doors Ford was almost RAPED

How can she remembers?

Posted by: torabora at December 01, 2020 10:11 PM (Y274z)

448


The Supreme Court has a clear path to reverse the 2020 election theft
without disenfranchising a single vote. Yes, you read that right.
Obviously
there is a mountain of uncontested evidence for SCOTUS to rule that
Constitutionally protected State laws were methodically violated on an
immense scale. The following remedy is fully within its power:

The
mail-in ballot counts of each law-breaking county are voided due to
massive ballot spoilage caused by that county's grossly unconstitutional
actions. SCOTUS further rules that any county which mixed its invalid
mail-in ballots with its valid ballots chose to undertake an unnecessary
and easily avoidable action which instantly tainted and nullified that
county's entire ballot count. (That is the county's law-breaking fault;
not the High Court's.)
Note that this does NOT void the millions of
valid ballots legally cast elsewhere in that State. However it does void
that State's current certification of its election results. SCOTUS can
clarify that the State is perfectly free to re-tabulate its vote total
(excluding the illegal mail-in ballots) and then recertify its election
results. If, however, the Governor and Secretary of State prefer to do
nothing and effectively disenfranchise the millions of legal voters in
their State, that is entirely on them.

By virtue of SCOTUS's
remedy, the millions of valid votes which were cast in each of these
contested States remain perfectly legal and eligible for State
recertification. Moreover, none of these millions of legal votes are
cancelled or diluted by hundreds of thousands of illegal ballots which
the law-breaking counties tried to dump into the State's vote total. So
rather than SCOTUS disenfranchising even one legal vote: it protects
_all_ legal votes from being ruinously diluted by a clearly coordinated
and illegal scheme to include hundreds of thousands of unlawful ballots.

SCOTUS simply puts the responsibility of legally and
Constitutionally recertifying that State's election results squarely
back on the State itself.

Under Article II Section 1 Clause 2 of the US Constitution, the Supreme Court has the authority to implement this remedy.

Posted by: cold civil war at December 02, 2020 01:32 AM (Z2PYk)

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