Time's Up -- the #MeToo Organization Which Raised Money, Supposedly to Pay the Legal Expenses of Women Making Accusations -- Spent Almost No Money on Their Legal Fund But Spent a <i>Lot</i> of Money on Salaries for Themselves

Time's Up -- the #MeToo Organization Which Raised Money, Supposedly to Pay the Legal Expenses of Women Making Accusations -- Spent Almost No Money on Their Legal Fund But Spent a Lot of Money on Salaries for Themselves

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Time's Up, the anti-sexual harassment organization created by Hollywood celebrities in the wake of the Harvey Weinstein scandal, has spent big bucks on executive salaries but has skimped on helping actual victims, according to a new report.
The group raised an impressive $3,670,219 during its founding year of 2018, but spent $1,407,032 on salaries and just $312,001 on the Time’s Up Legal Defense Fund for victims of sexual harassment, the New York Post reported, citing tax filings.
In addition, the group reportedly spent tens of thousands of dollars on advertising, and $940,328 on "legal" costs, with the bulk of that figure going to Arnold & Porter Kaye Scholer, the multinational law firm.

Tina Tchen, who served as an assistant to former President Obama and chief of staff for Michelle Obama, is currently Time's Up president and chief executive officer. She is also co-founder of the Time's Up Legal Defense Fund.

She's also the corrupt apparatchik who dialed up Kim Foxx to let her know that, as a Friend of Michelle Obama's, she would sure appreciate it if Foxx went easy on Jussie Smollett for his criminal race hoax.

The charity-rating watchdog Charity Navigator has a rule of thumb that a good charity -- not a scam organization -- should spend 75% of its donations on its actual mission, and only 25% on administration and salaries.

Time's Up spent 38% of donations on salaries alone. That doesn't include their big-spending on travel for their pampered graft-queens.

Democrats have a saying to excuse their graft: "We're doing well by doing good." That is, we're doing financially well for ourselves by doing political good for... whoever they're supposedly helping these days.

Democrat politicians really supercharged their thirst for lucre under Clinton -- my, how large the Clintons lived -- and now again since the Obamas.

The grift must end.

All of the DC grifter class must be destroyed. The perpetual welfare queens sucking the teat off the generosity, and credulousness, of people outside the DC grifter class must be forced out of their sinecures and actually work for the living for once, just to get some sense of what life is like in non-DC-Welfare-Queen America.

From Time's Up to National Review to Heritage: The endless grift must end.

Posted by: Ace at 03:48 PM

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Posted by: Eli Cash at December 02, 2020 03:48 PM (SScvq)

2 WHo could have seen this grift coming? Where is COokie Puss Milano now?

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 02, 2020 03:48 PM (SScvq)

3 Hopefully Trump unleashes that list of all the congress critters who have been sued for #MeToo BS and have been having their settlements paid out for years.

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 02, 2020 03:49 PM (SScvq)

4 Is any foundation NOT corrupt these days?

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 02, 2020 03:50 PM (83bQb)

5 It's like my very own blog in here.

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 02, 2020 03:50 PM (SScvq)

6 Rule of Thumb: If an Obamanite is involved, it's a grift.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 03:50 PM (WEBkv)

7 Oy! you scumbags ...

Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days ... at December 02, 2020 03:50 PM (LPnfS)

8 Tina Tchen is like that scummy lawyer Jamie Gorelick. When you hear a story so slimy with DC grift and scumbaggery, all you have to do is read a few paragraphs down adn you see their name pop up.

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 02, 2020 03:51 PM (SScvq)

9 >>>4 Is any foundation NOT corrupt these days?

Well, there's always The Human Fund (Money For People)

Posted by: George Costanza, philanthropist, architect, civil war buff at December 02, 2020 03:51 PM (nuqdl)

10 Taking a cue from Biden's cancer fund.

Posted by: Fortune Cookie Editor at December 02, 2020 03:51 PM (FsgBK)

11 From Time's Up to National Review to Heritage: The endless grift must end.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. 99% of both parties, as well as most political organizations make their living off of grift, and they're not going to let that go away.

Case in point: President Elect Biden.

Posted by: Shibumi, praying for America at December 02, 2020 03:51 PM (ZCiJZ)

12
Sorry, I can't spare anything for #MeToo. I gave it all to the RNC, where I know it will be spent wisely.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 02, 2020 03:51 PM (AO1Li)

13 Add the trolls to that bonfire.

Posted by: B. Frank at December 02, 2020 03:52 PM (VpIIl)

14
someone on the other thread wanted Michigan hearing info.

Here is Dr. Linda Lee Tarver testifying:

https://tinyurl.com/y345qffk

Posted by: kallisto at December 02, 2020 03:52 PM (DJFLF)

15 So is DoJ going to send a platoon of FBI goons to literally drag these people out of their homes like did to that one limbed veteran who "skimmed" a massive 5-10% from his 'build the wall' fund?
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I thought not.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 02, 2020 03:52 PM (/Dgcm)

16 Time's Up will take the money they've accumulated and use it to buy Epstein's Pedo Island. It can serve as the ironic remote island laundering site.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 02, 2020 03:52 PM (ch6++)

17

Jerry Lewis MDA telethon did it better.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 02, 2020 03:52 PM (s2VJv)

18 13 Add the trolls to that bonfire.
Posted by: B. Frank at December 02, 2020 03:52 PM (VpIIl)

The bonfire of the manatees...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 02, 2020 03:53 PM (s2VJv)

19 Grifters gonna grift and Deep State gonna Deep State.

Is there realistically anything that can be done? Donnie 2 Scoops has tried to drain the swamp -- only to reveal that said swamp has tributaries and estuaries beneath it. And all of the swamp creatures are no longer even giving the illusion of playing by the rules.

Posted by: Doof at December 02, 2020 03:53 PM (mZUr4)

20 I agree completely. The grift must end.

But...

Were I to get a little taste of said grift, my outlook might change.

Just puttin that out herr.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 03:53 PM (1ISKN)

21 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 02, 2020 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

22 The group raised an impressive $3,670,219 during its founding year of
2018, but spent $1,407,032 on salaries and just $312,001 on the Times
Up Legal Defense Fund for victims of sexual harassment, the New York
Post reported, citing tax filings.
To be fair, most of that $312,000 was spent on Tara Reid's claim against Joe Biden.

...WHAT?

Posted by: kallisto at December 02, 2020 03:54 PM (DJFLF)

23 Tourette's Ace is best Ace

Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 03:54 PM (786Ro)

24 State AG's can go after any charity registered in their state. Just ask the President.

Oh, sorry.. This involves Democrats. Let me pull out the special rule book.

Posted by: B. Frank at December 02, 2020 03:54 PM (VpIIl)

25 Terminate all non profits and the nation benefits.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 02, 2020 03:54 PM (y7DUB)

26 The endless grift will not end as it is part of the cycle of life: foundation/think tank, academic posting, deputy under secretary, and repeat.

The ci-i-i-i-rcle of l-i-i-i-i-ife!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - See The Outrage Outlet for A Piece of Mind! at December 02, 2020 03:54 PM (0QYMt)

27 Don't forget the book deal grifting. Isn't it actually a kind of money laundering? Is that illegal? Or would you have to show proof of actual quid pro quo? and not just beneficence of the "in-crowd"?

Posted by: President-elect Iris at December 02, 2020 03:55 PM (0MnEQ)

28 There's a term for outfits like these: "fake charity."

Charities that don't do anything but pay huge salaries to their board members are fake charities. Charities that are primarily funded with taxpayer money are fake charities.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 03:55 PM (hYcqw)

29 Grifters gotta grift.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 02, 2020 03:55 PM (NpAcC)

30 Raising awareness is a nice gig if you can get it.

Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 03:55 PM (786Ro)

31 EVERYTHING the left does is money laundering.

Everything.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 02, 2020 03:55 PM (Zz0t1)

32 Honestly, the number of charities which do NOT take most of the money for themselves and their workers is much smaller than the ones who are honest.

Its hardly even news these days to find out a charity rips off its donors.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 02, 2020 03:55 PM (KZzsI)

33 I'm a little surprised and impressed that almost 10% actually slipped through their greedy fingers and wen to the people they say they want to help. It is a far higher percentage that the 2% or so of the Clinton Foundation, the model liberal NGO.

Posted by: Ripley at December 02, 2020 03:55 PM (MxEKc)

34 20 I agree completely. The grift must end.

But...

Were I to get a little taste of said grift, my outlook might change.

Just puttin that out herr.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 03:53 PM (1ISKN)
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You joke - but that's exactly how new grifters are introduced to the grift. Then they become full blown addicts very quickly

Posted by: Doof at December 02, 2020 03:55 PM (mZUr4)

35 I'm confident that most / all of "our" groups (national tea party votes, legal defense funds, etc.) are doing the exact. same. thing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 03:55 PM (UPoLF)

36

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (YX5sd)

37 Also, on the topic of *real* charities, it is Christmastime and if you have a few bucks you're looking to give away, I like the Salvation Army. They are one of the few outfits to which I'll still donate money.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (hYcqw)

38 Nice work if you can get it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (dNzKv)

39 When an organization makes the federal government look like an efficient, well-oiled machine you know they have deep problems rooted in corruption.

Posted by: Fortune Cookie Editor at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (FsgBK)

40
Just $200 a day can provide these unfortunate, abandoned political consultants with the hors d'oeuvres and vintage wine they need to sneer at you flyover types. Give today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (AO1Li)

41 The left is nothing but a soulless force of graft, corruption, hypocrisy and projection.

Gov. Evers in WI accusing Trump of trying to "seize" the electors. The gall of this scumbag to even say that. We are, I fear, running out of time before someone has had enough of the gaslight lies and bullshit and puts one of these scumbag commies to the ground.

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (SScvq)

42 Hey fellow conservatives, enough with the election fraud stuff and shutting down grifters talk! Can't we just get back to the finest principles of conservatism ... by that I mean giving my think tank's corporate donors whatever they want.

I'll pump out a couple of columns a week about how it's really awful that Biden won't give "us" what we want re: social conservative icky stuff and populist anti-China tripe, but say we should still take his olive branch regarding increasing illegal immigration and a corporate tax cut.

And you guys will go back to buying my books filled with my old columns and watching me on Fox News. Ok?

Posted by: TruConster at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (dYe5S)

43 Democrats have a saying to excuse their graft: "We're doing well by
doing good." That is, we're doing financially well for ourselves by
doing political good for... whoever they're supposedly helping these
days.

Also known as the Prosperity Gospel. Joel Osteen would agree. This particular grift is as old as time.

It does make me reflect back to being drug to Baptist Church every Sunday. It didn't take - but I recall a deep mistrust of wealth, even while they pursued it. I get it, to a point.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (/LX46)

44 A good overview of the attitudes most charities have for people, watch the movie, Death To Smoochie.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (tFE3t)

45 I'm a little surprised and impressed that almost 10% actually slipped through their greedy fingers and wen to the people they say they want to help. It is a far higher percentage that the 2% or so of the Clinton Foundation, the model liberal NGO.
Posted by: Ripley at December 02, 2020 03:55 PM (MxEKc)
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10% isn't bad overhead for money laundering. To do a lot better than that, you have to operate at truly titanic scale.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (hYcqw)

46 This pales in comparison to the Wounded Warrior Project grift.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 02, 2020 03:57 PM (dNzKv)

47 Is any foundation NOT corrupt these days?

Well, there's always The Human Fund (Money For People)
Posted by: George Costanza, philanthropist, architect, civil war buff at December 02, 2020 03:51 PM (nuqdl)
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"Can you prove your religion exists?"

"If I have to..."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 03:57 PM (WEBkv)

48 All of the DC grifter class must be destroyed.

__________

"Despite still being useful to us, that usefulness will be coming to an end. #Soon, comrade, let not your fart be troubled!" -- Your New Chinese Communist Party Overlords

Posted by: ShainS at December 02, 2020 03:57 PM (kfXhP)

49 The charity-rating watchdog Charity Navigator has a rule of thumb that a good charity -- not a scam organization -- should spend 75% of its donations on its actual mission, and only 25% on administration and salaries.

"This standard is absurd and unrealistic!"
--The Clinton Foundation

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 02, 2020 03:57 PM (KZzsI)

50 Please give to the Duke Lowell Fund for Starving Otters.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 02, 2020 03:57 PM (kTF2Z)

51 There's big money in grifting. Just look at the Lincoln Project.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 02, 2020 03:57 PM (NpAcC)

52 This is one of my favorite subjects these days.

I got tired of saying "everyone in Hollowwood is a pedo," and started looking into it.

So yeah, no. Not everyone is a pedo.

Some of them are just straight up sharks, banging adult women and/or men, whenever they can get their hands on them.

All the names with credible accusations of rape and/or child molestation/rape. Any time you think you've reached the bottom, it goes deeper.

So my guess is #metoo is part of the coverup.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 03:57 PM (hku12)

53 This is my surprised face.

This is my F.U. face. See any difference?

Posted by: Lump the Chump at December 02, 2020 03:58 PM (ng9b/)

54 I saw Pampered Graft Queens open for The Pussycat Dolls at a private party on John McAfee's estate in Belize in '12

Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 03:58 PM (786Ro)

55 Didn't Biden have a big charity foundation that had no expenditures for the stated goal?

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at December 02, 2020 03:58 PM (9nhoD)

56 State AG's can go after any charity registered in their state. Just ask the President.

Oh, sorry.. This involves Democrats. Let me pull out the special rule book.
Posted by: B. Frank

Anyone who donated should be able to file a civil lawsuit ...

If we can not depend on state AGs, then we have to do it ourselves.

Maybe I'll start a Sue the Bustards Foundation.

hmmmm ...

Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days ... at December 02, 2020 03:58 PM (LPnfS)

57 Is there realistically anything that can be done? Donnie 2 Scoops has tried to drain the swamp -- only to reveal that said swamp has tributaries and estuaries beneath it. And all of the swamp creatures are no longer even giving the illusion of playing by the rules.

Posted by: Doof at December 02, 2020 03:53 PM (mZUr4)

I don't know.

Probably not.

When everyone in power is in on it, no ones going to try to stop it.

And if someone does come along who makes even a small effort at stopping it, the entire apparatus of power in this country will turn on him. (see: Donald Trump)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 03:58 PM (UPoLF)

58 The only thing that gets my money now is St. Judes.

Posted by: jsg at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (irzmA)

59 Other things that come to mind are the Haiti Earthquake fund and that very famous Band Aid. None of those donations got anywhere near a needy person. It was all a scam.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (r+sAi)

60 So my guess is #metoo is part of the coverup.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 03:57 PM (hku12)
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That I doubt. But they're suppressing it hard to avoid people realizing that they *all* do it. I think #MeToo is what I thought it was at the beginning: the Left trying to get Trump but instead stepping on a rake.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (hYcqw)

61 23 Tourette's Ace is best Ace
Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 03:54 PM (786Ro)

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Snarky Ace > Pissed Off Ace > Tourette's Ace

Posted by: Doof at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (mZUr4)

62 Doing well by conning their own rubes.

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (V6GAy)

63 #MeToo == #WIIFM

Posted by: motionview at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (pYQR/)

64 55 Didn't Biden have a big charity foundation that had no expenditures for the stated goal?

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at December 02, 2020 03:58 PM (9nhoD)

The real question is would it matter if he did?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (1ISKN)

65 I saw Pampered Graft Queens open for The Pussycat Dolls at a private party on John McAfee's estate in Belize in '12
Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 03:58 PM (786Ro)
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Now *that* sounds like a party.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (hYcqw)

66 So my guess is #metoo is part of the coverup.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 03:57 PM (hku12)

Always has been a cover up of that and human trafficking.

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (83bQb)

67 "this is only how women who have been preyed upon by abusive and manipulative predators would expect and be used to being treated!"
--Kim Tchen

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (KZzsI)

68 Gov. Evers in WI accusing Trump of trying to "seize" the electors.

remember in 2016 when all the celebutards posted those videos to convince the electors to switch to hellary?

Also, Evers gained his governorship through a classic dem fraud tactic. Keep counting til he wins.

Posted by: kallisto at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (DJFLF)

69 Easily predictable, day 1.

Abolish non-profit tax status and tax exempt status in toto.

Mosques, churches, foundations, universities, political parties: erbody pays based on gross receipts.

Posted by: Gilded at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (yexjH)

70
I give money to my parish. That's it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (AO1Li)

71 Other things that come to mind are the Haiti Earthquake fund and that very famous Band Aid. None of those donations got anywhere near a needy person. It was all a scam.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (r+sAi)
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If memory serves, the Haitians tried to make a stink about the Clinton Foundation ripping them off, but, MSM covered it up.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (WEBkv)

72 37 Also, on the topic of *real* charities, it is Christmastime and if you have a few bucks you're looking to give away, I like the Salvation Army. They are one of the few outfits to which I'll still donate money.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (hYcqw)
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Great choice! Also, if you have never rung a bell for the Salvation Army, do it. I've done it many times and it's a lot of fun. Sign up to do a couple hours if you can - they need it.

Posted by: 496 at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (U1eOr)

73 "I'm confident that most / all of "our" groups
(national tea party votes, legal defense funds, etc.) are doing the
exact. same. thing.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes"

I'm pretty sure the NRA spends 98% of any money left over after salaries on mailings and trinkets to get me to renew.

Posted by: Ripley at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (MxEKc)

74 This is where my bag of fucks seems empty. Any shithead that threw money their direction deserves what they got.

Now, if tax dollars were involved, then people need to be fed to the gulls.

Posted by: clutch cargo now with 12% more FUCKITOL at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (8B6Ng)

75 and that very famous Band Aid.

To be fair, Band Aid did send a bunch of wheat and rice to Ethiopia, where the dictator who was deliberately starving people took what he wanted and left the rest to rot on the docks

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (KZzsI)

76 Send money to me for the Human Fund.

It goes to a good cause. Humans.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (NWM+b)

77 Great choice! Also, if you have never rung a bell for the Salvation Army, do it. I've done it many times and it's a lot of fun. Sign up to do a couple hours if you can - they need it.
Posted by: 496 at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (U1eOr)
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Honest question, however stupid: do they allow Jews to do so? I know they are a Christian organization and I don't know if they like heathen interlopers

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (hYcqw)

78 Abolish non-profit tax status and tax exempt status in toto.

Mosques, churches, foundations, universities, political parties: erbody pays based on gross receipts.
Posted by: Gilded at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (yexjH)

I was always under the impression that the big deal for churches being tax-exempt was property taxes. The land under a old church in a busy downtown can be valued at millions.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (jOcSX)

79 Trump speech on election fraud and legal challenges

https://tinyurl.com/y6py56lo

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (ZR7kf)

80 All of the DC grifter class must be destroyed. The perpetual welfare queens sucking the teat off the generosity, and credulousness, of people outside the DC grifter class must be forced out of their sinecures and actually work for the living for once, just to get some sense of what life is like in non-DC-Welfare-Queen America.

From Time's Up to National Review to Heritage: The endless grift must end.

I banshee screeched yesterday about how if your answer to my question of what do you want me to do to help win the Senate seats in Georgia is to send you money, then I'm not listening to a word you say about those elections.

Billions of dollars have flown to the GOP professional politician class over the last few decades. I want to know where it all went.

I want to know the names of the consultants. I want the names of the ad agencies hired to create ads. I want the names of the ad buyers who placed those ads.

And I truly want to see the yarn wall of connections between them all.

The spiderweb of connections between K Street, NGOs, government positions, and elected politicians make the plot of Ulysses by James Joyce look comprehensible.

It's all this intertwined, incestuous class of people who think they are smarter than the plebes because they have the right credentials and think they know how to manipulate symbols.

At least mandarins had to pass a test to prove they could memorize stuff.

Posted by: alexthechick - Did all y'all forget just how must of a fagette I am? at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (GbPPJ)

81 This pales in comparison to the Wounded Warrior Project grift.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 02, 2020 03:57 PM (dNzKv)

I got some buds that were Marines and they HATE the WWP. Say they're a complete farce and wouldn't support them if they were the last org on Earth.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (Zz0t1)

82 The whole cause was always a scam to divert attention from the tribe of rapists and pedophiles that drinks this country's blood like a vampire.

Really, the relatively light corruption of their fake charity won't even be a footnote at Tchen's tribunal.

Posted by: trev006 at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (bEzlA)

83 I'm pretty sure the NRA spends 98% of any money left over after salaries on mailings and trinkets to get me to renew.
Posted by: Ripley at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (MxEKc)

And lobbying efforts at the state level to pass laws that include the phrase "NRA- certified firearms instructor."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (UPoLF)

84 The only charity organization that spends all of its donations on the needy are the Shriners. And they are the only ones I will donate to.

Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (mpXpK)

85
At least when you send $5000US via Western Union to cover all modalities, you know you have a shot at getting the $25 million from Saddam's secret stash...

AND, you remain blessed!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (s2VJv)

86 The Human Fund: Money for people

Posted by: josephistan at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (Izzlo)

87 All of the DC grifter class must be destroyed. The perpetual welfare queens sucking the teat off the generosity, and credulousness, of people outside the DC grifter class must be forced out of their sinecures and actually work for the living for once, just to get some sense of what life is like in non-DC-Welfare-Queen America.

Get real. The only way to do that is with a 10 megaton nuclear warhead, and I admit that I am now at the point where I would cheer at the news. If Trump had stayed in office, we had a chance. But they've taken over the entire government now. It's never going to end.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (Kpl3J)

88 Membeh Move On?

Started as a way to suck up money to "defend" President Clinton against that young woman Miss Lewinsky.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (EZebt)

89 There's a term for outfits like these: "fake charity."

Charities that don't do anything but pay huge salaries to their board members are fake charities. Charities that are primarily funded with taxpayer money are fake charities.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Charity Navigator is a good place to do some research before donating.

Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days ... at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (LPnfS)

90 So my guess is #metoo is part of the coverup.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 03:57 PM (hku12)
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That I doubt. But they're suppressing it hard to avoid people realizing that they *all* do it. I think #MeToo is what I thought it was at the beginning: the Left trying to get Trump but instead stepping on a rake.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 03:59 PM (hYcqw)

What I see are, after some gal manages to break through the wall of silence, only THEN is she joined by her fellow Hollowwood actresses, who say how stunning and brave she is.

Then throw more cash into the kitty.

If it's not a straight up hush fund, then it's at least a fund specifically for virtue signaling.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (hku12)

91 Fraud. Embezzlement. More fraud. Tax Evasion.

FBI? IRS? Hello? Bueller?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (K5agK)

92 Scumbag Georgia SecState criminals are mad at us.

https://tinyurl.com/y5hbvo8o

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (szqvX)

93 Who can be surprised be the leaders taking all of this graft? How did that #metoo (pound me too) work out for all the schmucks who sent money to them?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 02, 2020 04:03 PM (N39Ws)

94
Abolish non-profit tax status and tax exempt status in toto.

Mosques, churches, foundations, universities, political parties: erbody pays based on gross receipts.
Posted by: Gilded at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (yexjH)
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Taxing churches is a clear violation of the First Amendment, so, no.

Believe me, the IRS and government do not want to open up that can of worms.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 04:03 PM (WEBkv)

95 Hey, those lunches and dinners at swanky restaurants to discuss womenz issues don't pay for themselves haters!

Posted by: Cheri at December 02, 2020 04:03 PM (oiNtH)

96 I'm pretty sure the NRA spends 98% of any money left over after salaries on mailings and trinkets to get me to renew.

Posted by: Ripley at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (MxEKc)

I didn't renew with the NRA this year. That place needs a serious housecleaning.

Posted by: Mark1971 at December 02, 2020 04:03 PM (xPl2J)

97
I'm pretty sure the NRA spends 98% of any money left over after salaries on mailings and trinkets to get me to renew.
Posted by: Ripley at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (MxEKc)

And they're all made in China.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 02, 2020 04:03 PM (Zz0t1)

98
Wetting ones beak while technically illegal, I can tolerate.

Sitting in the bath tub then shitting in it for profit is a way over the line however.

Posted by: fixeruppper at December 02, 2020 04:03 PM (8XRCm)

99 I was always under the impression that the big deal for churches being tax-exempt was property taxes. The land under a old church in a busy downtown can be valued at millions.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (jOcSX)

Oh, I'm sure they like their collections being exempt from income tax as well.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:03 PM (UPoLF)

100 82 The whole cause was always a scam to divert attention from the tribe of rapists and pedophiles that drinks this country's blood like a vampire.

Really, the relatively light corruption of their fake charity won't even be a footnote at Tchen's tribunal.
Posted by: trev006 at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (bEzlA)

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It was about wealthy women in middle management in Hollywood demanding positions in upper management.

That's it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:03 PM (NWM+b)

101 86 The Human Fund: Money for people
Posted by: josephistan at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (Izzlo)

Next year it'll be the Hunan Fund...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 02, 2020 04:04 PM (s2VJv)

102 85
At least when you send $5000US via Western Union to cover all modalities, you know you have a shot at getting the $25 million from Saddam's secret stash...

AND, you remain blessed!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (s2VJv)

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I get that by going to Chick-Fil-A.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:04 PM (NWM+b)

103 Wasn't Metoo created as a means of going after Trump and conservatives in the first place? It backfired because all of the complainants filed against...wait for it...Dems. I haven't heard much about it since R Kelly, Weinstein and Kevin Spacey, so I think when those were the names that kept popping up, the founders said "Screw it. We can't get the R's, so let's make bank while we can."

Posted by: Moki at December 02, 2020 04:04 PM (+X9Vs)

104 Honest question, however stupid: do they allow Jews to do so? I know they are a Christian organization and I don't know if they like heathen interlopers
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (hYcqw)

Dress up as Hanukkah Harry

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 02, 2020 04:04 PM (iXQKd)

105 I'm a lazy sort who won't go looking for who donates to these do-gooder grifts.
I'm also a cynical sort who figures that it's just a pass-through to make a lucky few wealthy and not actually do any good.

So far it seems my laziness has no downside. Everything is a racket, and most people are shit with shoes on.

Posted by: Ben Dover at December 02, 2020 04:04 PM (z79tQ)

106 Most non-profits in general are just fiefdoms where the insiders take care of themselves.

Why people write the checks, I'll never understand.

I'd love it if the tax code no longer gave any sort of "write off" for donations across the board.

Posted by: Blago at December 02, 2020 04:04 PM (gkdnV)

107 Oh, I'm sure they like their collections being exempt from income tax as well.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:03 PM (UPoLF)

No one pays income tax except people. Every organization only pays profit tax.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:04 PM (1ISKN)

108 Also, on the topic of *real* charities, it is Christmastime and if you have a few bucks you're looking to give away, I like the Salvation Army. They are one of the few outfits to which I'll still donate money.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 03:56 PM (hYcqw)
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Great choice! Also, if you have never rung a bell for the Salvation Army, do it. I've done it many times and it's a lot of fun. Sign up to do a couple hours if you can - they need it.
Posted by: 496 at December 02, 2020 04:00 PM (U1eOr)

100%. Salvation Army is the one charity that has stuck to their roots since inception. They actually do good, and have saved many a soul. They don't judge, they just roll up their sleeves and get what needs doing done.

Posted by: clutch cargo now with 12% more FUCKITOL at December 02, 2020 04:04 PM (8B6Ng)

109 Brian Kemp's campaign manager is (or was) a paid Dominion lobbyist, claims Emerald Robinson.

https://tinyurl.com/y2dsgkva

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:05 PM (szqvX)

110 The only charity organization that spends all of its donations on the needy are the Shriners. And they are the only ones I will donate to.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (mpXpK)
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I like the Shriners, too, for the big ones.

It takes a lot of homework to not get rooked, but your area also probably has a legitimate "meals on wheels" program, and those are also worth supporting. Getting shut-ins a decent meal and some human contact is a good work, in my opinion.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:05 PM (hYcqw)

111 Taxing churches is a clear violation of the First Amendment, so, no.

Believe me, the IRS and government do not want to open up that can of worms.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 04:03 PM (WEBkv)

How so? We have no problem taxing, say, the media.

Or firearms.

Or the incomes of lawyers.

Or... any number of things that are mentioned in the bill of rights.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:05 PM (UPoLF)

112 Fuckit, I should give up on honest work and just grift the Left. That's where the money is, after all.

Posted by: Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (OUMaO)

113 I imagine there are some entertaining Tweets to pull from Rose McGowan directed at Alyssa Milano about all this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (NWM+b)

114 @jakeirlpark 43m

My proposal:

A degree buyback program. Students can "sell" their ineffectual degrees back to the Universities that issued them. Universities are then responsible for the debt accrued. Credentials would be forfeit. Engagement in program optional.

Posted by: Heh (Sayer of) at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (BBWrU)

115 Money it's what I want.
Words of wisdom from the Flying Lizards

Posted by: Archer at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (gmo/4)

116 84 The only charity organization that spends all of its donations on the needy are the Shriners. And they are the only ones I will donate to.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (mpXpK)

Vic! How are you?

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (ONvIw)

117 Tina Tchen

*eyes teleprompter nervously*

Posted by: Dementia Joe at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (h5TKJ)

118 To be fair, Band Aid did send a bunch of wheat and rice to Ethiopia, where the dictator who was deliberately starving people took what he wanted and left the rest to rot on the docks
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

The slit yer wrist of it all was that small groups that had boots on the ground told them that's exactly what was going to happen.

iirc. It might have been We Are the World.

Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days ... at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (LPnfS)

119 Honest question, however stupid: do they allow Jews to do so? I know they are a Christian organization and I don't know if they like heathen interlopers
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (hYcqw)

The Salvation Army accepts help from any source, they may be a Christian inspired organization, but they have no requirements as to who may volunteer for them. (Outside of health and safety issues, etc.) I've known several people who worked for the organization in various capacities; none of them would dream of asking the question you raised.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (Kpl3J)

120 The grift must end.

All of the DC grifter class must be destroyed. The perpetual welfare queens sucking the teat off the generosity, and credulousness, of people outside the DC grifter class must be forced out of their sinecures and actually work for the living for once, just to get some sense of what life is like in non-DC-Welfare-Queen America.

This.
Someone's got to dig those canals.

Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (786Ro)

121
New York State.

Family member or pal sets up 501c3 organization.

Legislator funnels tax dollars to said organization.

Profit!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (AO1Li)

122 Is there realistically anything that can be done? Donnie 2 Scoops has
tried to drain the swamp -- only to reveal that said swamp has
tributaries and estuaries beneath it. And all of the swamp creatures are
no longer even giving the illusion of playing by the rules.
Posted by: Doof at December 02, 2020 03:53 PM (mZUr4)

There is - but it's painful. Peaceful, but still too painful for the thought leaders and opinion shapers here to embrace. It starts with an acceptance that all things DC are our personal enemy. That would include all things Federal - including the military.

Like I said - it's still too painful for most here. But hear me out. I want you to consider how often Conservatives willingly contribute to this cause, or gladly comply with that edict, and constantly send their kids of to duty with a firm and hearty handshake, and do all the work necessary to keep this all running.

Now - what if that all stopped ? I'm not suggesting anyone revolt - that's too much for most. I'm not even suggesting anyone go on strike. But what if all our willful, and even enthusiastic, compliance to all this simply stopped on a dime ? What if we made the powers that be actually work a little damn bit to enforce our cooperation ?

I'm suggesting that the swamp can't be drained. But it'll dry up on its own if we'd just quit constantly watering it. It can't sustain itself - and it can't make us all irrigate it. Right now - we still line up to pump it full without being told. Every damn day.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (/LX46)

123 118 To be fair, Band Aid did send a bunch of wheat and rice to Ethiopia, where the dictator who was deliberately starving people took what he wanted and left the rest to rot on the docks
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

The slit yer wrist of it all was that small groups that had boots on the ground told them that's exactly what was going to happen.

iirc. It might have been We Are the World.
Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days ... at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (LPnfS)

==========

What did those little people know that the experts didn't? Nothing, that's what.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:07 PM (NWM+b)

124 Tina Tchen

*eyes teleprompter nervously*
Posted by: Dementia Joe at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (h5TKJ)

EENA TEN!!!!

- Dumb Joe

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 02, 2020 04:07 PM (Zz0t1)

125 The Salvation Army accepts help from any source, they may be a Christian inspired organization, but they have no requirements as to who may volunteer for them. (Outside of health and safety issues, etc.) I've known several people who worked for the organization in various capacities; none of them would dream of asking the question you raised.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (Kpl3J)
+++++++++++
Cool. I'll see about doing so. It is an organization I really like. They do extremely good work. When I grew up in wildfire zones, the difference between the Salvation Army and the Red Cross was staggering.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:07 PM (hYcqw)

126 118 To be fair, Band Aid did send a bunch of wheat and rice to Ethiopia, where the dictator who was deliberately starving people took what he wanted and left the rest to rot on the docks
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

The slit yer wrist of it all was that small groups that had boots on the ground told them that's exactly what was going to happen.

iirc. It might have been We Are the World.
Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days ... at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (LPnfS)

Bob Geldof donated the money from "Do They Know It's Christmas" BUT... he kept all the royalties from the B side of the single.

Sneaky bastard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 02, 2020 04:07 PM (s2VJv)

127 They are one of the few outfits to which I'll still donate money.

Agreed and I believe I read the CEO's salary is only like $15,000 per year plus expenses. I just get tired of the constant bell ringers planted in front of every establishment. I know they raise a lot of money but sheeshh... can ya take a break from ringing the damn bell already?

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 02, 2020 04:07 PM (nxdel)

128 This pales in comparison to the Wounded Warrior Project grift.

Can you point me to something on that? This is the first I've heard of them being a problem.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (ZGrMX)

129 A degree buyback program. Students can "sell" their ineffectual degrees back to the Universities that issued them. Universities are then responsible for the debt accrued. Credentials would be forfeit. Engagement in program optional.
Posted by: Heh (Sayer of) at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (BBWrU)

The punchline to the joke - those credentials are already worthless the day a graduate walks off campus.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (Kpl3J)

130 The whole cause was always a scam to divert attention from the tribe of rapists and pedophiles that drinks this country's blood like a vampire.

Really, the relatively light corruption of their fake charity won't even be a footnote at Tchen's tribunal.
Posted by: trev006 at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (bEzlA)

People often think the term "blood suckers" is meant figuratively. And since there's some rather unpleasant accusations against certain religious groups in this way, people don't want to talk about it.

However... there is some real evidence that the blood sucking may not be figurative. That the sacrifice of children, so they can drink the blood, that it's really happening.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (hku12)

131 A degree buyback program. Students can "sell" their ineffectual degrees back to the Universities that issued them. Universities are then responsible for the debt accrued. Credentials would be forfeit. Engagement in program optional.
Posted by: Heh (Sayer of) at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (BBWrU)

+++++++

That's fucking brilliant.

Too bad universities would never go for it. They know what they're selling and it's not worth the paper it's printed on.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (ZR7kf)

132 Old style charity: People giving their money away.

New style charity: People getting rich off of the charity.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (I2/tG)

133 How do these politicians know how to grift so well? is there some secret course they take?

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (a0IVu)

134 Agreed and I believe I read the CEO's salary is only like $15,000 per year plus expenses. I just get tired of the constant bell ringers planted in front of every establishment. I know they raise a lot of money but sheeshh... can ya take a break from ringing the damn bell already?
Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 02, 2020 04:07 PM (nxdel)
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LOL! I kinda like the bell-ringers. They're festive, usually pleasant and a nice reminder that it's Christmastime and that a little can go a long way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (hYcqw)

135 No one pays income tax except people. Every organization only pays profit tax.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:04 PM (1ISKN)

They pay an income tax.

We just calculate income differently for businesses vs. w2 income, regardless of the entities form.

For example, if you open "sniffybigtoe's bait and ammo emporium," and you make $150,000, you can still deduct your $125,000 or whatever in expenses, even if you're set up as a sole proprietorship (ie: no "business" paperwork with the state). I believe its on Schedule C of your 1040.

It's also why you're allowed to, in your individual capacity, deduct business expenses, even if you are a w2 or 1099 employee.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:09 PM (UPoLF)

136 America needs new elites. Different elites. Out with the old...

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:09 PM (szqvX)

137 To be fair, Band Aid did send a bunch of wheat and rice to Ethiopia, where the dictator who was deliberately starving people took what he wanted and left the rest to rot on the docks

Ahh, the same thing that happened in Puerto Rico and caused them to finally elect a Republican governor.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2020 04:09 PM (ZGrMX)

138 132 Old style charity: People giving their money away.

New style charity: People getting rich off of the charity.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (I2/tG)

==========

Vanderbilt built a school.

Zuckerberg builds connections.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:09 PM (NWM+b)

139 OT but I saw that Fox News had the highest rated November ever. How can that be after what we've been hearing about viewers leaving in droves.

Posted by: Jaimo at December 02, 2020 04:09 PM (/Kt3K)

140 Over a hundred comments on "charities" and no one's mentioned 1-877-Kars-4-Kids yet?

It's like I don't even know you people.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2020 04:09 PM (ejd/p)

141 The only charity organization that spends all of its donations on the needy are the Shriners.

The LDS Church is almost entirely volunteer and pays most of their overhead through tithing. Charitable donations are well managed and almost all of it goes to the needy.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2020 04:09 PM (UW2ZS)

142 Over a hundred comments on "charities" and no one's mentioned 1-877-Kars-4-Kids yet?

It's like I don't even know you people.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2020 04:09 PM (ejd/p)
++++++++++++
Zod isn't here and I was hoping against hope that no one would fill his shoes...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:10 PM (hYcqw)

143 14

someone on the other thread wanted Michigan hearing info.

Here is Dr. Linda Lee Tarver testifying:

https://tinyurl.com/y345qffk

Posted by: kallisto

Holy Cow! (No pun intended.) I'm watching her now. The first thing I have to say is that, look at her. There is no way that is a woman who is oppressed by society. That woman is pure chutzpah in the good sense. Then *listen* to her. She is educated, articulate, sincere, and knowledgeable *about the details of what she's talking about*. Systemic racism, my Hebrew ass. This woman should be in charge of election security.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2020 04:10 PM (KAi1n)

144 How so? We have no problem taxing, say, the media.

Or firearms.

Or the incomes of lawyers.

Or... any number of things that are mentioned in the bill of rights.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:05 PM (UPoLF)
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Well, the First Amendment clearly states that "Congress shall make no law...."

Taxation of churches clearly violates that, but, Congress got around that through tax exempt status.

A few years ago, the drunken mayor of Houston almost forced that issue and I believe she was told, in no uncertain terms, she needed to back off.

My take, but, not a lawyer, and, due to COVID, haven't had the chance to sleep at a Holiday Inn Express.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 04:10 PM (WEBkv)

145 @AZGOP 5h
In today's update, Chairwoman @kelliwardaz announces the findings from our investigation of 100 duplicate ballots, in which TWO votes were discovered to have been altered and removed from President @realDonaldTrump's total.

@merissahamilton 3h
ALARMING

Since 2018 when I worked as an adjudicator and saw votes were being flipped in this process, I have WARNED this system has little oversight and is wide open for fraud

Thanks to @kelliwardaz we now have proof this is indeed occurring

Posted by: 2% is a lot in AZ at December 02, 2020 04:10 PM (BBWrU)

146 142 Over a hundred comments on "charities" and no one's mentioned 1-877-Kars-4-Kids yet?

It's like I don't even know you people.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2020 04:09 PM (ejd/p)
++++++++++++
Zod isn't here and I was hoping against hope that no one would fill his shoes...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:10 PM (hYcqw)

==========

Is there a jingle?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:10 PM (NWM+b)

147 134 Agreed and I believe I read the CEO's salary is only like $15,000 per year plus expenses. I just get tired of the constant bell ringers planted in front of every establishment. I know they raise a lot of money but sheeshh... can ya take a break from ringing the damn bell already?
Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 02, 2020 04:07 PM (nxdel)
++++++++++++
LOL! I kinda like the bell-ringers. They're festive, usually pleasant and a nice reminder that it's Christmastime and that a little can go a long way.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (hYcqw)

the thing is some of them look so darn sad ringing that bell. I mean, let's have a little dance ringing that bell, a twirl or shake yer hips ringing that bell.

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 02, 2020 04:10 PM (a0IVu)

148 Honest question, however stupid: do they allow Jews to do so? I know they are a Christian organization and I don't know if they like heathen interlopers
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (hYcqw)
______________________________
My gut says yes - they serve everyone (love the sinner, etc...). If you call them to ask if you can do it, I can't imagine they'd ask.

I used to like picking up a box or 2 of those mini candy canes and when someone put money in they got one. It was a lot of fun, and you saw the good in a lot of people at a time of year that you don't always see a lot of good in a lot of people.

Plus I met Miss Vermont. I got to ring the bell with her a couple years in a row. Now this is a Christian charity and I am married... I didn't ring HER bell. They were both really good kids though.

Posted by: 496 at December 02, 2020 04:10 PM (U1eOr)

149 Posted by: Moki at December 02, 2020 04:04 PM (+X9Vs)

Metoo started with some lady like 13-14 years ago and a hollyweird lawsuit IIRC. It mostly centered around hollyweird casting couch, but then a bunch of hollyweirds turned it around into a global movement - probably as deflection (Alyssa Milano?). I think that's where the irony that Weinstein was involved after all of that.

No doubt they hoped to drag republicans into it - and certainly did when they railroaded Roy Moore. But they'd just as easily turn a blind eye to creeps like Al Franken, who had actual photographic evidence against him.

Like every movement that starts as a grassroots effort, it gets hijacked by the left. Especially if sex, race or social status can be used as a wedge.

Posted by: clutch cargo now with 12% more FUCKITOL at December 02, 2020 04:10 PM (8B6Ng)

150 I'm enjoying the Krazy Komedy League game on NBC.
A constant cacophonous crowd din is heard in the background as they show the stadium with a crowd total of about fifteen people

Posted by: President Elect Lebron Horowitz at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (UFgOG)

151 My father did planned giving and fund raising for religious institutions nearly my entire life. As a result, I know a lot about the administrative and financial side to running those organizations. Most of the people involved are true believers who could make more money in the secular world but consider what they are doing to be a ministry. Most. Like anything else involving money, rats come to feast on the grain.

The best advice I can give is to keep your spending as local as possible. You'll probably know the people involved, or know people who know them, and accountability is higher.

Posted by: alexthechick - Did all y'all forget just how must of a fagette I am? at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (GbPPJ)

152 How's that? Somebody scamming a bunch of celebutards? (checks pockets) Gosh, I appear to be all out of F*cks. I'll get back to them when I have any extra I can give.

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (48RE5)

153 I know they raise a lot of money but sheeshh... can ya take a break from ringing the damn bell already?

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 02, 2020 04:07 PM (nxdel)

++++++++++++

LOL! I kinda like the bell-ringers. They're festive, usually
pleasant and a nice reminder that it's Christmastime and that a little
can go a long way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (hYcqw)

Talked to one today walking out of Kroger - that little bell even warms the empty spot I've got where most people have a heart.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (/LX46)

154 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:09 PM (UPoLF)

So the business is taxed on profit and the individual is the only one that is taxed the income from labor without deduction the cost or value of the labor.

Meaning the government is saying your time and labor have no value.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (1ISKN)

155 I was always under the impression that the big deal
for churches being tax-exempt was property taxes. The land under a old
church in a busy downtown can be valued at millions.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (jOcSX)

Oh, I'm sure they like their collections being exempt from income tax as well.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:03 PM (UPoLF)

Churches are tax exempt because they exist in a separate realm of authority, and government has no legitimate say over them. As churches are direct servants of God, government is fact an inferior form of authority.

Posted by: Methos at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (kOpft)

156 Is everyone watching Trump's speech today.

So clean and simple. The media will block it at every turn but it needs to be seen and shared.

Honestly, he should take over the airwaves for an emergency broadcast with it.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (ZR7kf)

157 116 84 The only charity organization that spends all of its donations on the needy are the Shriners. And they are the only ones I will donate to.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (mpXpK)

Vic! How are you?
Posted by: CN at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (ONvIw)

Just got out of the hospital yesterday. Fell in the kitchen and broke my hip

Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (mpXpK)

158 Over a hundred comments on "charities" and no one's mentioned 1-877-Kars-4-Kids yet?

What's the problem with them? Last I heard, the complaints were from people who didn't like the fact the money went to Jewish schools. Is there a different complaint about cars for kids?

Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (UW2ZS)

159 Trump making what he says is his most important speech. Homie Carr playing two minutes of it.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (ptqGC)

160
It's all this intertwined, incestuous class of people who think they are smarter than the plebes because they have the right credentials and think they know how to manipulate symbols.

At least mandarins had to pass a test to prove they could memorize stuff.

Posted by: alexthechick - Did all y'all forget just how must of a fagette I am? at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (GbPPJ)

I wouldn't mind seeing a breakdown of expenses by the GOP either. But as you said, they think we are stupid, and they are very happy to ask for money from us rubes so they can go rub elbows at chic Georgetown parties with the cool kids, and they all laugh their asses off at us.

Until Trump. They figured out the rubes were tired of them and wanted them to go out and get real jobs, and they had to stop that at all costs.

Posted by: Moki at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (+X9Vs)

161 This is pretty epic. A fool and his money...

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (IHRQq)

162 111 Taxing churches is a clear violation of the First Amendment, so, no.

No, it is not.

Posted by: Gilded at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (yexjH)

163 I am trying to think of a charity scam that would work to get in on the grift since we are apparently not the USA anymore. Maybe I can get a non-profit to save the whale owl turtle. Its like a jackalope, but more of a big white turtle with feathers and a blowhole. Send me a dollar.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (r+sAi)

164 >Scumbag Georgia SecState criminals are mad at us.

https://tinyurl.com/y5hbvo8o
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (szqvX)

That's the one that's the child of Jane D'ohs friends? Yeah dude, you're lucky that all you're getting is empty threats right now.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (L106N)

165 Speaking of bell-ringers, I'll mention to anyone who might be looking for a singularly good episode of TV to watch one of the finest episodes of The Twilight Zone: "Eight Characters in Search of an Exit." It is top quality.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (hYcqw)

166 There was a small win over insanity today.
DOT banned emotional support animals from the airlines.

Posted by: Downcast, well acted troll, pretending to be a moron, here to push a demoralizing narrative at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (PgXZQ)

167 mengistu, the marxist leader of ethiopia, was a real life version of killmonger, he was trained by the us, but switched sides. see idi amin, for the brits and the israelis, and bokassa (the cannibal) for the French,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (hMlTh)

168 I'm suggesting that the swamp can't be drained. But it'll dry up on its own if we'd just quit constantly watering it. It can't sustain itself - and it can't make us all irrigate it. Right now - we still line up to pump it full without being told. Every damn day.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (/LX46)

So...let it dry and THEN let it burn? Works for me.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (5FCda)

169 Spending giving look I'm not that bright.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (GbPPJ)

170 Hiya Vic, good to see you!

Posted by: dartist at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (+ya+t)

171 Just got out of the hospital yesterday. Fell in the kitchen and broke my hip
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (mpXpK)

Bless you Vic. Heal quickly.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (ptqGC)

172 What percentage of post-2000 American culture (media / arts / entertainment / education, etc. ) is just a straight-up grift? 80%? Higher?
(I think it's higher)

Posted by: Revenant at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (+nZa8)

173 Heck yeah Vic posted!

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (9nhoD)

174 Don't forget cocksuckers like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett who use 'foundations' to shelter money from taxes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (oVJmc)

175 LOL! I kinda like the bell-ringers. They're festive, usually pleasant and a nice reminder that it's Christmastime and that a little can go a long way.

There's a guy in front of Hobby Lobby here that dances around and sings rather than ring the bell. He's pretty funny. He bumped into me the other day as I was leaving and almost knocked me to the ground.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (nxdel)

176 I don't see how this doesn't go to the House if SCOTUS has any sense of what is going on. The states are the Republic, if they want to keep it. IF the country really wants to go left after Trump, it'll go left. If it goes left now even if it doesn't want to, it'll never return.

"You'll never, ever return" (from the edge of the world as we watch it all burn) - Eric Bloom, Blue Oyster Cult ("Edge of the World")

Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (KAi1n)

177 These days my charitable donations mostly go toward helping animals.

I haven't yet given up on animals.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (hku12)

178
Just got out of the hospital yesterday. Fell in the kitchen and broke my hip
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (mpXpK)

I hope you're following directions and getting better, hips are a tricky thing.
But it's great to see you back.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (ONvIw)

179 A degree buyback program. Students can "sell" their ineffectual degrees back to the Universities that issued them. Universities are then responsible for the debt accrued. Credentials would be forfeit. Engagement in program optional.
Posted by: Heh (Sayer of) at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (BBWrU)

Mine is simpler.

Allow Lemon Laws to be applied to the universities.

College degrees were sold to teenagers via high pressure sales tactics that grossly misrepresented their utility and value. Why should that be allowed to stand unchallenged?

Since no repair can make the useless degrees usable, anyone who spent money on one (loaned or out of pocket) should be able to sue for damages.

Lawyers would be all over that like Hollywood on half-off day at Epstein Island. The endowments would be plundered and armies of surplus administrators and teachers of less-than-sounf subjects would get the boot. Many universities would go under.

The survivors would get an object lesson in good business practice that would stick with them for decades.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (TOCce)

180 Just got out of the hospital yesterday. Fell in the kitchen and broke my hip
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (mpXpK)
+++++++++
Oh no! That is a serious injury! I am glad you're *out* of the hospital, at least, and I hope you have a speedy convalescence!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (hYcqw)

181 Taxing churches is a clear violation of the First Amendment, so, no.

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No, it is not.
Posted by: Gilded at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (yexjH)

You know - taxing me for owning my homestead doesn't seem much different than taxing them for owning an assembly hall. Then again - I think both arrangements are horse shit.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:14 PM (/LX46)

182
No, it is not.
Posted by: Gilded at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (yexjH)
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Okay, I see an assertion, but, no argument to back up your statement.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 04:14 PM (WEBkv)

183 No one pays income tax except people. Every organization only pays profit tax.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:04 PM (1ISKN)

They pay an income tax.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:09 PM (UPoLF)

==============
You guys are arguing semantics obviously. But on a real level "income" is an accounting term only, as you know. It's a number calculated according to GAAP. The real point is profit is either invested back into the business, used to fatten executive leaders comp, or handed over to shareholders. If it's one of the latter two categories, the money presumably gets taxed at the individual level.

But, no. The government dips its beak first, like the corrupt enterprise it is.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:14 PM (szqvX)

184 Vic!!! Good to see you here!

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 02, 2020 04:14 PM (nxdel)

185 Get real. The only way to do that is with a 10 megaton nuclear warhead, and I admit that I am now at the point where I would cheer at the news. If Trump had stayed in office, we had a chance. But they've taken over the entire government now. It's never going to end.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (Kpl3J)

Trump *is* in office.

Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 04:14 PM (786Ro)

186 OT but I saw that Fox News had the highest rated November ever. How can that be after what we've been hearing about viewers leaving in droves.

All depends on the fine print behind the assertion "highest rated".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 02, 2020 04:14 PM (I2/tG)

187 A degree buyback program. Students can "sell" their ineffectual degrees back to the Universities that issued them. Universities are then responsible for the debt accrued. Credentials would be forfeit. Engagement in program optional.
Posted by: Heh (Sayer of) at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (BBWrU)

+++++++

That's fucking brilliant.

Too bad universities would never go for it. They know what they're selling and it's not worth the paper it's printed on.
Posted by: Shenanigans

Hahvhad and Yale, maybe not ... But I'm planning a petition for AZ's 3 state schools. I need a local co-signer though ...

Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days ... at December 02, 2020 04:14 PM (LPnfS)

188 What's the problem with them? Last I heard, the complaints were from people who didn't like the fact the money went to Jewish schools. Is there a different complaint about cars for kids?
Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (UW2ZS)
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Their jingle.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:14 PM (hYcqw)

189 The only charity organization that spends all of its donations on the
needy are the Shriners. And they are the only ones I will donate to.

Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (mpXpK)

Vic!! -Glad to see you back. Hope you are healing up well.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 02, 2020 04:14 PM (N39Ws)

190 YOU DON'T SAY

Posted by: ghost of kari at December 02, 2020 04:14 PM (Z4LGO)

191 Hope you feel better, Vic.

Same to Anna.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (iXQKd)

192 Howie says it sounds like PDT is resigned to conceding, while saying the fraud is rampant. Said "See you in 2024."

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (ptqGC)

193 Good to see you here, Vic.

Posted by: SMH at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (RU4sa)

194 177 These days my charitable donations mostly go toward helping animals.

I haven't yet given up on animals.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (hku12)

I give to rescues, especially the ones I've used to adopt puppers, but I also like the Jewish War Veterans. CEO takes no salary which I find refreshing.

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (ONvIw)

195 25 and 26 you guys are correct, and very nice timing

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (YkawN)

196
The Faustian bargain churches made was in exchange for 501c3 status they can't endorse candidates. I wonder what would happen if churches freed themselves to speak out freely.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (AO1Li)

197 Get real. The only way to do that is with a 10 megaton nuclear warhead, and I admit that I am now at the point where I would cheer at the news. If Trump had stayed in office, we had a chance. But they've taken over the entire government now. It's never going to end.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (Kpl3J)
_______________________________________

But we don't have any nukes. Only Eric Swalwell has Nukes

Posted by: 496 at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (U1eOr)

198 ace's ex gf, Pamela Geller, has been doing some solid research and reporting post election. Drop by her twitter feed. She has the goods on Dominion and money to Georgia and Illinois.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PamelaGeller/ status/1334155993295491072

GA Mobile on demand ballot printing:

Dominion brags to Georgia about their capabilities

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (83bQb)

199 My god, this woman's testimony is an utter indictment of this country. Seriously, governance is what happens when American urban governance uses English comedy as its model paradigm. Seriously, it's an absolutely ridiculous farce.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (KAi1n)

200 @162 111
"Taxing churches is a clear violation of the First Amendment, so, no."
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Yeah, not. It's a tradition and a tribute to the fact that churches are supposed to be non-profit.

That being said, if a pastor is making millions and has a private jet and there's a Starbucks in the lobby, go ahead and tax them into oblivion.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (IHRQq)

201 Spending giving look I'm not that bright.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (GbPPJ)

You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

202 So the business is taxed on profit and the individual is the only one that is taxed the income from labor without deduction the cost or value of the labor.

Meaning the government is saying your time and labor have no value.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (1ISKN)

Huh. Interesting POV. Never thought of it exactly like that.

Posted by: Ben Dover at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (z79tQ)

203 Don't forget cocksuckers like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett who use 'foundations' to shelter money from taxes.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (oVJmc)

Not just tax sheltering. They funnel tons of cash to the Globalist Agenda, through various groups, all of whom seem to have the same basic lineup of Elites.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (hku12)

204 WILLOWED:

Wayne Allyn Root on Seb Gorka's radio show was in Las Vegas and bettng on the election Tuesday night. Trump started out the evening as a 2:1 underdog and knowing Trump was going to win in a landslide, he made a big bet on him.

As the results continued coming in that night, Trump eventually became a 7:1 favorite and crushing it in all the swing states... and then Fox News called AZ for Biden, at which point he said millions and millions of dollars suddenly flooded in for Biden, dropping Trump's odds and telling him that the fix was in and many in-the-know were profiting from it.

Posted by: ShainS at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (b7QJ9)

205
So the business is taxed on profit and the individual is the only one that is taxed the income from labor without deduction the cost or value of the labor.

Meaning the government is saying your time and labor have no value.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (1ISKN)

heh, well, that's one way of looking at it.

The IRS would say "we tax your profits, not your income either. You can deduct any legitimate business expense at the end of the year, as like a business can. (aka: your income is entirely profits).

Businesses just work on much thinner margins then you do (your margins are nearly 100%!). And we want to encourage commerce in this country, in any form, and the tax code reflects that."

But, yes, you are not wrong. Being a w2 employee has a lot of draw backs in how you can structure things.

But if you become super rich, you can forgo most of the w2 income and structure it so that you, too, can deduct your hair cuts, clothes, personal staff, private jet travel, etc. as business expenses. So you have that going for you.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (UPoLF)

206 200 @162 111
"Taxing churches is a clear violation of the First Amendment, so, no."
-
Yeah, not. It's a tradition and a tribute to the fact that churches are supposed to be non-profit.

That being said, if a pastor is making millions and has a private jet and there's a Starbucks in the lobby, go ahead and tax them into oblivion.
Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (IHRQq)

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If it's a Subway he's fine, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (NWM+b)

207 Went to the nail salon today and it was like going to a mini Trump rally. Never heard so many angry Vietnamese women (they hate China) and customers voicing their opinion on the stolen election.

All the Vietnamese women there voted for Trump same with the customers.

Patriots encouraging people to make phone calls write letters. Sharing who to watch etc.

It just made my day.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (NpAcC)

208
Dress up as Hanukkah Harry
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

https://tinyurl.com/y3v5m9vj

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (63Dwl)

209 At least mandarins had to pass a test to prove they could memorize stuff.
Posted by: alexthechick - Did all y'all forget just how must of a fagette I am? at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (GbPPJ)

heh!

Posted by: Gilded - don't care at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (yexjH)

210 Not apropos of this thread however I must rant:

Get Joe Namath off of the damn Medicare commercials!! I used to admire him and when a lot younger, had a crush on him. Now, every time I see him hawking for some Medicare referral service on TV, I want to throw a football at the screen!

Rant off.

Posted by: Cheri at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (oiNtH)

211 There are a disturbing number of people who have jobs that never translate to an actual product. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it does mean that they are lacking perspective.

And sometimes, it is a very bad thing.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (rWZ8Y)

212 Faustian bargain churches made was in exchange for 501c3 status they can't endorse candidates.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

-

Hahaha
(snort)
Hahahah

- Black churches errywhere

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (9nhoD)

213 Anyone with student loans should be able to apply to have their loans reduced by 50%, and the remainder capped at $60k. However, in exchange they forfeit the right to take the standard deduction, either individually or jointly, for twenty years.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (jOcSX)

214 You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

Yo fukkinA right, beesh!

Posted by: Cardi B at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (z79tQ)

215 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (arJlL)

216
Just got out of the hospital yesterday. Fell in the kitchen and broke my hip
Posted by: Vic

Vic - prayers for your Health and Healing in this downbeat and lonely time ...

Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days ... at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (LPnfS)

217 Yeah, not. It's a tradition and a tribute to the fact that churches are supposed to be non-profit.

That being said, if a pastor is making millions and has a private jet and there's a Starbucks in the lobby, go ahead and tax them into oblivion.
Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (IHRQq)
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I'm seeing plenty of assertion, but, no backing argument.

The whole "Congress shall make no law" part of the First Amendment seems pretty clear to me.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (WEBkv)

218 Send money to me for the Human Fund.

It goes to a good cause. Humans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (NWM+b)

YOu can make Junior one chairman of the board and Junior two CEO.

Posted by: runner at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (zr5Kq)

219 Businesses just work on much thinner margins then you do (your margins are nearly 100%!).

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (UPoLF)

You've obviously never seen me work.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (1ISKN)

220 I'm suggesting that the swamp can't be drained. But
it'll dry up on its own if we'd just quit constantly watering it. It
can't sustain itself - and it can't make us all irrigate it. Right now -
we still line up to pump it full without being told. Every damn day.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (/LX46)

So...let it dry and THEN let it burn? Works for me.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (5FCda)

Yeah - you said it better than I did. This takes me back a few years - when I was a troll for saying that all this new police equipment, MRAPs and such - would bite us in the ass. And that a couple less Army Divisions wouldn't be such a bad thing. Its ironic that all the tools the Left wants to use against us were bought at paid for by us, and we insisted on writing the check.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:18 PM (/LX46)

221 Dr. Tarver's speech/speaking is on youtube.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2020 04:18 PM (KAi1n)

222

Me Too. Wasn't that a sister station of Me TV?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 02, 2020 04:18 PM (Un9AW)

223 I was always under the impression that the big deal
for churches being tax-exempt was property taxes. The land under a old church in a busy downtown can be valued at millions.

If Canada ever decided to tax property, the Catholic Church would go bankrupt in Canada. Others would too, but them especially. They have beautiful, spacious sanctuaries all over downtown Montreal, Toronto, Calgary, Ottawa, Edmonton, etc that each have about five ancient parishioners who visit regularly.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2020 04:18 PM (UW2ZS)

224 I haven't yet given up on animals. <<<<<<<
Have you considered giving to the Whale Owl Turtle fund? They are endangered you know. Make your check out to WOT Fund (pronounced what fund).

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 02, 2020 04:18 PM (r+sAi)

225 I imagine a room where people sit around waiting for a new hot outrage they can use to scam gullible people. It's a large room filled with unsavory charaters.

Posted by: iandeal at December 02, 2020 04:18 PM (vgGyZ)

226 @206 TheJamesMadison
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Eat Fresh like Jesus ate.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:18 PM (IHRQq)

227 But if you become super rich, you can forgo most of the w2 income and structure it so that you, too, can deduct your hair cuts, clothes, personal staff, private jet travel, etc. as business expenses. So you have that going for you.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (UPoLF)

That is also a big point. If you really want to get rich, you need to start or corporation.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (1ISKN)

228 I'm pretty much at the 'don't give money to anyone I don't know' for charities.

I do give to the Salvation Army, since it pisses off the Progs at work, though. So that's money well spent.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (ifmtJ)

229 That being said, if a pastor is making millions and has a private jet and there's a Starbucks in the lobby, go ahead and tax them into oblivion.
Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (IHRQq)

I can make millions and have a jet plane?. Could somebody point me where to send my resume for that church?

We don't need a Starbucks; We just rattle along with the old coffee maker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (WkPC9)

230 218 Send money to me for the Human Fund.

It goes to a good cause. Humans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (NWM+b)

YOu can make Junior one chairman of the board and Junior two CEO.
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (zr5Kq)

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Nepotism.

It's why I wake up in the morning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (NWM+b)

231 Vic !
Good to see you back !

Hope your recovery is swift and smooth !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (/On2j)

232 to Make Charity Honest Again:

government should give $0 to charity.

charitable donations should have no effect on taxable income.

Posted by: x at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (0tE/i)

233 All the Vietnamese women there voted for Trump same with the customers.

Patriots encouraging people to make phone calls write letters. Sharing who to watch etc.

It just made my day.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (NpAcC)

I obviously need to meet more Vietnamese women.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (TOCce)

234
Heritage Foundation sent me a "second warning" mailing today concerning why haven't I caved to their grift for the past two years ... oh, noes!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (pNxlR)

235 Taxing churches is a clear violation of the First Amendment, so, no.

Every single gun law in the US is a clear violation of the Second Amendment, but here we are.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (UW2ZS)

236 230 218 Send money to me for the Human Fund.

It goes to a good cause. Humans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (NWM+b)

YOu can make Junior one chairman of the board and Junior two CEO.
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2020 04:17 PM (zr5Kq)

=========

Nepotism.

It's why I wake up in the morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (NWM+b)

That and you sleep next to a hawt ginger.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (ifmtJ)

237 229 That being said, if a pastor is making millions and has a private jet and there's a Starbucks in the lobby, go ahead and tax them into oblivion.
Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (IHRQq)

I can make millions and have a jet plane?. Could somebody point me where to send my resume for that church?

We don't need a Starbucks; We just rattle along with the old coffee maker.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (WkPC9)

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Yeah, just pretend to cure miracles and be really flashy about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (NWM+b)

238 I can make millions and have a jet plane?. Could somebody point me where to send my resume for that church?

We don't need a Starbucks; We just rattle along with the old coffee maker.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (WkPC9)

Step 1: Write a blatantly heretical "Christian Self-Help" book...

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (jOcSX)

239 Churches can choose to not be tax exempt, and by doing so can ignore government requirements for tax exemption. Many of the more conservative and less government-trusting smaller denominations do so.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (KZzsI)

240 Churches are tax exempt because they exist in a separate realm of authority, and government has no legitimate say over them. As churches are direct servants of God, government is fact an inferior form of authority.
Posted by: Methos at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (kOpft)

Well, the sovereign citizens tried that argument for individuals, and so far, haven't had a lot of luck in our realm of authority here on earth, in the US court systems.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (UPoLF)

241
If it's a Subway he's fine, though.

Ah, Jared, you were ahead of your time....if you'd gotten caught today you could just invoke 'white privilege' or some other bullshit, send money to BLM, and the powers-that-be would cover the whole thing over for you as long as you bashed Republicans.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (oVJmc)

242 I obviously need to meet more Vietnamese women.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (TOCce)
+++++++++++
Careful. In my limited experience, they're ... feisty.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (hYcqw)

243 236 Nepotism.

It's why I wake up in the morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (NWM+b)

That and you sleep next to a hawt ginger.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (ifmtJ)

=========

True.

My soul's already gone. I might as well get into the fake charity game.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (NWM+b)

244 MeToo = Gold Diggers

Posted by: Desultory joe at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (L9P9s)

245 @FenelonSpoke

There was some guy down here in Louisiana who was pushing for a second plane and haranguing his congregation about it.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc7q9fyt

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (IHRQq)

246 Allow Lemon Laws to be applied to the universities.

College degrees were sold to teenagers via high pressure sales tactics that grossly misrepresented their utility and value. Why should that be allowed to stand unchallenged?

Since no repair can make the useless degrees usable, anyone who spent money on one (loaned or out of pocket) should be able to sue for damages.

Lawyers would be all over that like Hollywood on half-off day at Epstein Island. The endowments would be plundered and armies of surplus administrators and teachers of less-than-sounf subjects would get the boot. Many universities would go under.

The survivors would get an object lesson in good business practice that would stick with them for decades.
Posted by: Cato

An 18 yr old kid that hustles, with a great work ethic and a solid business plan wants a $100,000 loan and no bank will talk to him.

An 18 yr old slacker, that want a useless degree, wants nothing more than getting stoned and partying, banks will line up to loan them $100,000.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (UYkjZ)

247 Guess y'all don't care about the starving otters, huh? Ok, fine.

Please donate to the Duke Lowell Home for Wayward Porcupines.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (kTF2Z)

248 233 All the Vietnamese women there voted for Trump same with the customers.

Patriots encouraging people to make phone calls write letters. Sharing who to watch etc.

It just made my day.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (NpAcC)

I obviously need to meet more Vietnamese women.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (TOCce)

They're small, but quick.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (ifmtJ)

249 You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

*nods vigourously*

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (GbPPJ)

250 I can make millions and have a jet plane?. Could somebody point me where to send my resume for that church? We don't need a Starbucks; We just rattle along with the old coffee maker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (WkPC9)

Of course. Just follow the tried and true teaching of Brother L. Ron. He knew the score.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (/LX46)

251

The grift will only get worse now, under the guise of CARING MOAR.

The Democrat party is a criminal organization.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (lg/F7)

252 249 You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

*nods vigourously*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (GbPPJ)

===========

*nods sagaciously*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (NWM+b)

253 >Wayne Allyn Root on Seb Gorka's radio show was in Las Vegas and bettng on the election Tuesday night. Trump started out the evening as a 2:1 underdog and knowing Trump was going to win in a landslide, he made a big bet on him.

As the results continued coming in that night, Trump eventually became a 7:1 favorite and crushing it in all the swing states... and then Fox News called AZ for Biden, at which point he said millions and millions of dollars suddenly flooded in for Biden, dropping Trump's odds and telling him that the fix was in and many in-the-know were profiting from it.
Posted by: ShainS at December 02, 2020 04:16 PM (b7QJ9)

Root is pretty goofy and I take what he says with a lot of salt, but I'm sure he's right about this. Hell, I remember the NYT "needles" for the three swing states all being 98-99% Trump before they declared "SHUT IT DOWN" that evening.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 02, 2020 04:22 PM (L106N)

254 Fen, you can send your resume to the Summit* here in Houston...but I suspect actually knowing the Bible will disqualify you!

*look, it was called the Summit my whole childhood, and I can't even remember what they're calling it now. See also Battleground Road.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at December 02, 2020 04:22 PM (rWZ8Y)

255 An 18 yr old kid that hustles, with a great work ethic and a solid business plan wants a $100,000 loan and no bank will talk to him.

An 18 yr old slacker, that want a useless degree, wants nothing more than getting stoned and partying, banks will line up to loan them $100,000.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (UYkjZ)

Because you HAVE to pay back student loans. Free money for the bank. Can't default on it unless you die...and even then the banks will hassle your family.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 02, 2020 04:22 PM (ifmtJ)

256 Cheri.. lol.. I agree. Guy was such a stud. Sad to see him hawking Medicaire plans. Did you ever read his book I Can't Wait Until Tomorrow Because I Get Better Looking Everday? I didn't know a thing about football but I knew Joe Namath was a big deal. I think I read it in high school. I laughed my ass off.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 02, 2020 04:22 PM (nxdel)

257 An 18 yr old kid that hustles, with a great work ethic and a solid business plan wants a $100,000 loan and no bank will talk to him.

An 18 yr old slacker, that want a useless degree, wants nothing more than getting stoned and partying, banks will line up to loan them $100,000.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (UYkjZ)
+++++++++++
Of course. The slacker can't discharge the student loan in bankruptcy and the bank can garnish his wages for life, including into social security payments.

Get rid of the bankruptcy shelters and the slacker won't be able to get that money anymore - at least, not an interest rate below about 30%.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:22 PM (hYcqw)

258 Caring nurturers, devoted to love.

Fuckin scumbags.

Posted by: Mike Hunt, FBI at December 02, 2020 04:22 PM (uc+oy)

259 That is also a big point. If you really want to get rich, you need to start or corporation.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (1ISKN)

You'd probably want to structure as an LLC, using pass through taxation.

Unless you're looking to fundraise, then a DE C-Corp is the way to go.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (UPoLF)

260 You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

*nods vigourously*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (GbPPJ)

I don't care who ya are.

That shit's FUNNY right there......

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (Zz0t1)

261 Is Summit a chain of churches?

Seems like they're errywhere.

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (9nhoD)

262 Think of where all that 9/11 charity money went. I'd be surprised if more than 50% made it to the victims or their families.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (2DOZq)

263 You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

*nods vigourously*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria

lol

Posted by: JT at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (arJlL)

264 249 You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

*nods vigourously*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (GbPPJ)

Something else... vigorously!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (s2VJv)

265 260 You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

*nods vigourously*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (GbPPJ)

I don't care who ya are.

That shit's FUNNY right there......
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (Zz0t1)

Looks like I picked the right day to not wear pants.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (ifmtJ)

266 I'm suggesting that the swamp can't be drained. But it'll dry up on its own if we'd just quit constantly watering it. It can't sustain itself - and it can't make us all irrigate it. Right now - we still line up to pump it full without being told. Every damn day.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:06 PM (/LX46)

I'm not sure that's true. Just by taking Google money, most of these groups can stay in business forever. And launder the money as lobbyists to influence the Washington elite.

But that's not blackpilling. To the contrary. The main battle is won. No one takes Conservative Inc seriously anymore. Even Fox News is feeling the pinch. Perfect conditions, in fact, for major social disruption.

Posted by: trev006 at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (bEzlA)

267 >Scumbag Georgia SecState criminals are mad at us.

https://tinyurl.com/y5hbvo8o
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (szqvX)

My, isn't he indignantly flouncy!

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (V6GAy)

268 You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

Now THAT's a newsletter.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (oVJmc)

269 Still looking for some profit on this star wars debacle

Posted by: George Lucas at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (/6GbT)

270
*nods vigourously*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (GbPPJ)

===========

*nods sagaciously*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (NWM+b)

*drools*

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (Zz0t1)

271 mengistu, the marxist leader of ethiopia, was a real life version of killmonger, he was trained by the us, but switched sides. see idi amin, for the brits and the israelis, and bokassa (the cannibal) for the French,
Posted by: bolivar de gris at December 02, 2020 04:12 PM (hMlTh)

I liked Emperor Bokassa the First. He had a certain style, even for Africa.

Wonder if he is still vertical.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (K5agK)

272 Of course. The slacker can't discharge the student loan in bankruptcy and the bank can garnish his wages for life, including into social security payments.

Get rid of the bankruptcy shelters and the slacker won't be able to get that money anymore - at least, not an interest rate below about 30%.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 02, 2020 04:22 PM (hYcqw)

Not to be selfish, but what about me? a 30-something not really slacker with 2 advanced degrees, nearly 6 figures in debt, most at 10% or so interest, and a job that does not pay anywhere near enough for me to ever make any meaningful progress on that debt?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (UPoLF)

273 249 You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

Alexandria Titty Caca. QED. Sadly.

I mean AOC.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (s2VJv)

274 fb.watch/27KawkLq3E/

The President just released a video statement on how things are going with the election fraud investigations and legal action

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (j9HX3)

275 @239 Christopher R. Taylor
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My understanding is that losing your tax exempt status at church just means your congregation can't claim it on their taxes. Is there more to it? I can't imagine it being that punitive, although I haven't ever had to deal with it so I don't know the details.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (IHRQq)

276 An 18 yr old slacker, that want a useless degree, wants nothing more than getting stoned and partying, banks will line up to loan them $100,000.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (UYkjZ)

Because you HAVE to pay back student loans. Free money for the bank. Can't default on it unless you die...and even then the banks will hassle your family.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 02, 2020 04:22 PM (ifmtJ)

The US government took over the student loan business in 2010.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (GbPPJ)

277 Donald J. Trump gives short talk saying "I am in the fight!"

fb.watch/27KawkLq3E/

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (szqvX)

278 Every single gun law in the US is a clear violation of the Second Amendment, but here we are.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2020 04:20 PM (UW2ZS)
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Are you arguing that we should allow another infringement because we're already infringing on the Second?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (WEBkv)

279 Okay, I see an assertion, but, no argument to back up your statement.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 04:14 PM (WEBkv)

You or somebody else said taxing churches would violate the 1st amendment. I have never understood where people get that idea.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (YkawN)

280 272 Not to be selfish, but what about me? a 30-something not really slacker with 2 advanced degrees, nearly 6 figures in debt, most at 10% or so interest, and a job that does not pay anywhere near enough for me to ever make any meaningful progress on that debt?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (UPoLF)

==========

There's always faking your death.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (NWM+b)

281 So the business is taxed on profit and the individual is the only one that is taxed the income from labor without deduction the cost or value of the labor.

Meaning the government is saying your time and labor have no value.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:11 PM (1ISKN)
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Exactly how it works. Shafting the rubes 101.

Posted by: Gilded at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (yexjH)

282 The whole "Congress shall make no law" part of the First Amendment seems pretty clear to me.

"Shall not be infringed." Is even clearer. They didn't limit infringement to Congress, they left it open to any actor, public or private; yet here we are.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (UW2ZS)

283 No, the Summit is where the Rockets used to play basketball. Joel Osteen bought it and renamed it, but I don't know what he calls it, so I still call it the Summit. (And now that I think about it, I don't know where the Rockets play basketball now...)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (rWZ8Y)

284 Hooray! I'm now first in the bread line at Waea

Posted by: Josephistan at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (6OJDh)

285 Student loans should be backed by the university's endowment. It should be part of the acceptance criteria of the school that, if the student wishes to obtain loan financing from a bank, the university will need to underwrite the student's prospective performance / future ability to repay the loan and issue a guarantee to the bank (with their endowment as collateral) that the loan will be repaid.
This would fix many of the problems that plague the American education system overnight.

Posted by: Revenant at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (+nZa8)

286 We must sympathize with their plight. They're just doing the jobs that working Americans won't do.

Posted by: Furious George at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (9vQJW)

287 You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

Alexandria Titty Caca. QED. Sady.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

I'll see your Titty Caca and raise you an AtC.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (UYkjZ)

288 The supply of victims did not meet the demand.To the hoaxmobiles!

Posted by: steevy at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (HwiWi)

289 Come on. Subway sandwiches don't grow on trees you know!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 02, 2020 04:26 PM (UDapT)

290 The US government took over the student loan business in 2010.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (GbPPJ)

FedGov owns the debt, but there are private companies who service it (I'm sure for a cut of the amount of money they are "managing.")

Like I don't make my student loan payments to the government, I make them to Nelnet or whatever it's called.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:26 PM (UPoLF)

291 Scumbag Georgia SecState criminals are mad at us.

https://tinyurl.com/y5hbvo8o
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (szqvX)

Awww... poor widdle baby. People are calling you out for the corrupt POS that you are.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 02, 2020 04:26 PM (kw5n8)

292 Hooray! I'm now first in the bread line at Waea
Posted by: Josephistan

Is that a new store ?

Must not be Welsh.....too many vowels.

Posted by: JT at December 02, 2020 04:26 PM (arJlL)

293 Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (IHRQq)

I don't why I think that's funny, but I do; I guess because it's so awful.

The fact that my reimbursable expense account-which I never use much anyway; I just absorb the loss-was just reduced to $500.00 ought to tell you that I need to make millions. And if we did have a Starbucks, FenelonSpouse would not have to make coffee Sunday morning. I will ask for one next time the Admin Council meets.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:26 PM (WkPC9)

294 289 Come on. Subway sandwiches don't grow on trees you know!
Posted by: andycanuck at December 02, 2020 04:26 PM (UDapT)

=========

That's because they grow in sugar cane fields.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:26 PM (NWM+b)

295
Ah, Jared, you were ahead of your time....if you'd gotten caught today you could just invoke 'white privilege' or some other bullshit, send money to BLM, and the powers-that-be would cover the whole thing over for you as long as you bashed Republicans.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

He should have said "love is love"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (63Dwl)

296 276 An 18 yr old slacker, that want a useless degree, wants nothing more than getting stoned and partying, banks will line up to loan them $100,000.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (UYkjZ)

Because you HAVE to pay back student loans. Free money for the bank. Can't default on it unless you die...and even then the banks will hassle your family.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 02, 2020 04:22 PM (ifmtJ)

The US government took over the student loan business in 2010.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (GbPPJ)

Ah?

I did not know that.

Well it used to be the reason getting a huge student loan was easy as pie.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (ifmtJ)

297 Below market rate loans = an increase in demand

People who couldn't afford college when it was cheaper are now paying a higher price with debt.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (Zm+LZ)

298 Political grifters and scam artists are their version of megachurches and magic water salesmen.

Posted by: Wodun at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (knKQ1)

299 There's always faking your death.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (NWM+b)

I could try that... hm....

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (UPoLF)

300 All of that Prosperity Gospel bullshit sets me teeth on edge. Talk about shamelessly grifting from the vulnerable and un-worldly.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (L106N)

301 No, the Summit is where the Rockets used to play basketball. Joel Osteen bought it and renamed it, but I don't know what he calls it, so I still call it the Summit

-

I'm not joking when I say that I think there are modern churches named the Summit throughout major cities in the south.

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (9nhoD)

302 You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:15 PM (jOcSX)

*nods vigourously*

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:21 PM (GbPPJ)

Now add some brains to that - and you got your secret sauce. It's like that part in Road House where Sam Elliot is talking about how unfair it is that a woman with that many brains has an ass like that.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (/LX46)

303 Did anyone in the last thread mention the reason that FBI prick Somma used an alias with Carter Page is that Somma was Stephan Halper's handler, and didn't want Page to get suspicious in case he knew the name.

Posted by: SSBN656 (G) at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (5AVMW)

304 These days my charitable donations mostly go toward helping animals.

I haven't yet given up on animals.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 04:13 PM (hku12)

I support Associated Humane Societies Popcorn Park.

Based in NJ, they rescue lots of dogs used for fighting and then abandoned on the streets. But they also rescue all kinds of other animals, including exotics from roadside zoos, injured wild animals and farm animals.

They work with vets who volunteer their services, never advertise on TV, and adopt out as many rescues as possible in addition to housing unwanted ones in no-kill shelters.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (5FCda)

305 259 That is also a big point. If you really want to get rich, you need to start or corporation.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:19 PM (1ISKN)

You'd probably want to structure as an LLC, using pass through taxation.

Unless you're looking to fundraise, then a DE C-Corp is the way to go.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:23 PM (UPoLF)
__________________________________________

yeah, but then I'd have to incorporate in Delaware and for some reason Delaware is not high on my list these days.

Posted by: 496 at December 02, 2020 04:28 PM (U1eOr)

306 Tina Tchen, who served as an assistant to former President Obama and
chief of staff for Michelle Obama, is currently Time's Up president and
chief executive officer. She is also co-founder of the Time's Up Legal
Defense Fund.

Well, then that explains it!

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (EgshT)

307 @293 FenelonSpoke
-
It is funny, but it also makes me seething angry. I don't know how you can do that to a church and not have any fear of what's coming. And what is wrong with those people. The first time it was submitted to the church to buy a jet would be my last service there.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (IHRQq)

308 One of the dumbest guys we hung out with in high school was well on his way to being a mutli-millionaire before the rest of us even graduated collage. He started a business servicing work trucks for the oil and gas industry and then branched into all sorts of other things.

We thought he almost retarded in HS, like just barely made the cut.

Of course, he lost it all and ended up in jail, but that's not the point. He hustled and didn't go to collage and was a huge success for a while. His ex-wife is still rich.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (xfb67)

309 >> You can get further in the world with a foul mouth and big tits than you can with brains.

A Girl can go a LOT further without a Gag Reflex.

...and that little girl was me.

Posted by: Kamala Harris at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (84H1w)

310 285 Student loans should be backed by the university's endowment. It should be part of the acceptance criteria of the school that, if the student wishes to obtain loan financing from a bank, the university will need to underwrite the student's prospective performance / future ability to repay the loan and issue a guarantee to the bank (with their endowment as collateral) that the loan will be repaid.
This would fix many of the problems that plague the American education system overnight.
Posted by: Revenant
____________

Oh please, this ^^^^^

Posted by: Furious George at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (9vQJW)

311 Come on. Subway sandwiches don't grow on trees you know!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 02, 2020 04:26 PM (UDapT)

They're the only thing to get in Chicago at 2am when it's 25 below out.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (kw5n8)

312 yeah, but then I'd have to incorporate in Delaware and for some reason Delaware is not high on my list these days.
Posted by: 496 at December 02, 2020 04:28 PM (U1eOr)

You don't have to be based there. Or ever go there. Or pay any taxes there or anything. You just incorporate there. Use a filing service. Couple hundred bucks, no big deal.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (UPoLF)

313 Cheri.. lol.. I agree. Guy was such a stud. Sad to see him hawking Medicaire plans. Did you ever read his book I Can't Wait Until Tomorrow Because I Get Better Looking Everday? I didn't know a thing about football but I knew Joe Namath was a big deal. I think I read it in high school. I laughed my ass off.
Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON!

Never read his book. I do remember seeing a video in 2003 of him drunk hitting on a ESPN reporter on TV. He later said that this incident turned his life around and he quit drinking. Good for him.

Posted by: Cheri at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (oiNtH)

314 Are you arguing that we should allow another infringement because we're already infringing on the Second?

Nope. I'm arguing that the Bill of Rights backstop you're saying protects your rights is nothing but wet paper mache. As soon as the left decides it doesn't want to protect the 1st anymore, it'll be trampled as thoroughly as the 2nd.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (UW2ZS)

315 These days my charitable donations mostly go toward helping animals.

I haven't yet given up on animals.
Posted by: BurtTC

*fistbump

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (UYkjZ)

316 Addendum: you'll often see stickers on the back windows of SUVs that are tailgating and weaving through traffic advertising the churches.

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (9nhoD)

317
Not to be selfish, but what about me? a 30-something not really slacker with 2 advanced degrees, nearly 6 figures in debt, most at 10% or so interest, and a job that does not pay anywhere near enough for me to ever make any meaningful progress on that debt?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (UPoLF)

==========

There's always faking your death.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (NWM+b)

-----------

1.) knock all your teeth out with a brick.

2.) burn a hobo beyond recognition, and throw his teeth in the river

3.) replace them with your pre-charred teeth, Official Harry Paratestes State ID, and copy of "Modern Deviant Magazine."

I think I see a profitable business idea, here.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2020 04:30 PM (BvLWD)

318 ace you're right as you usually are on this stuff, but prospects, eh, not so good.

Look back all the way, 4 months or so even, to when BLM and affiliated racist-totalitarian forces in society shook down the country for hundreds of $millions. Even worse, not much "shaking" required.

Based on .... a couple of police encounters where the police were at worst negligent, "race" had nothing to do with anything, and the "victims" were criminal scum who either tried or succeeded in committing suicide-by-cop, even in inadvertently, with their own behavior.

And "Republican" senators were rushing to microphones to talk about subbing in Juneteenth for Columbus Day, and renaming southern Army bases. Even Trump, the Glorious Black Swan, never managed anything as clear and on-point as effing *Macron* in terms of rhetorical/political push-back.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2020 04:30 PM (OTzUX)

319 >>Come on. Subway sandwiches don't grow on trees you know!
Posted by: andycanuck

That's because they grow in sugar cane fields.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Nope. Foam seat-cushion factory.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 02, 2020 04:30 PM (VsHYs)

320 I support Associated Humane Societies Popcorn Park.

Ditto. I like that you can sponsor a specific animal, and you get updates on them about 4 times a year. I sponsor several birds there.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2020 04:30 PM (ZGrMX)

321 How dare ye mock the mighty labors what hath the female hand doth wrought!

Posted by: Rachel Levine's Ovaries at December 02, 2020 04:31 PM (ktqLp)

322 Forget the swamp, my diaper needs draining!

Posted by: Your Big Wet President at December 02, 2020 04:31 PM (P4sqS)

323 317 1.) knock all your teeth out with a brick.

2.) burn a hobo beyond recognition, and throw his teeth in the river

3.) replace them with your pre-charred teeth, Official Harry Paratestes State ID, and copy of "Modern Deviant Magazine."

I think I see a profitable business idea, here.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 02, 2020 04:30 PM (BvLWD)

=========

Almost Zod worthy.

Feels too compassionate for the bum, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:31 PM (NWM+b)

324 It is funny, but it also makes me seething angry. I don't know how you can do that to a church and not have any fear of what's coming. And what is wrong with those people. The first time it was submitted to the church to buy a jet would be my last service there.
Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (IHRQq)
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Joel Osteen says hi!

But yeah, I'm with you on that.

Remember the PTL scandal? Huge black eye for Christian denominations, though, PTL was anything but.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 04:31 PM (WEBkv)

325 Not to be selfish, but what about me? a 30-something
not really slacker with 2 advanced degrees, nearly 6 figures in debt,
most at 10% or so interest, and a job that does not pay anywhere near
enough for me to ever make any meaningful progress on that debt?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

One advanced degree on borrowed money was enough. The second one you should have paid for with the earnings from the first. I am debt free and the earnings my JD enabled me have enabled me to attain a degree in on-line Moron pop psychology analysis. And now you are better for it!

Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2020 04:31 PM (KAi1n)

326 Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (IHRQq)

I understand; It is upsetting. I was just looking for things to laugh at. I am not an advocate of the Prosperity Gospel or the lifestyle that goes along with it for the pastors.

But a new car instead of the beat up on from 2004 would be nice.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:31 PM (WkPC9)

327 yeah, but then I'd have to incorporate in Delaware and for some reason Delaware is not high on my list these days.
Posted by: 496 at December 02, 2020 04:28 PM (U1eOr)

You don't have to be based there. Or ever go there. Or pay any taxes there or anything. You just incorporate there. Use a filing service. Couple hundred bucks, no big deal.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

All of this.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM (UYkjZ)

328 322 Forget the swamp, my diaper needs draining!
Posted by: Your Big Wet President at December 02, 2020 04:31 PM (P4sqS)
_______________________________________
that's so funny, let's all laugh at the count of three
1,
2,
Ha ha

damn, I couldn't even wait til 3

Posted by: 496 at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM (U1eOr)

329 regulate student loans under CFPB and apply the Ability To Repay underwriting rules that everyone else has to comply with and useless degrees would not exist for long at all.

Posted by: x at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM (0tE/i)

330 Not to be selfish, but what about me? a 30-something not really slacker with 2 advanced degrees, nearly 6 figures in debt, most at 10% or so interest, and a job that does not pay anywhere near enough for me to ever make any meaningful progress on that debt?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (UPoLF)

you went 100K in debt to get two advanced degrees in low paying fields of employment? and you continue to live in NYC, the most expensive place in the US. you could pay off that loan in one year working as a long haul trucker or in 2 years working the rigs in west TX.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM (YkawN)

331 My understanding is that losing your tax exempt status at church just means your congregation can't claim it on their taxes. Is there more to it? I can't imagine it being that punitive, although I haven't ever had to deal with it so I don't know the details.
Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (IHRQq)

Yes, any income to the church now is taxable to the church itself. Most 501c3 non profits also receive benefits at banks, stores, etc in the form of reduced or free services( which the entity giving can deduct from their own taxes, once that is gone, most businesses will not give free services or items).

Posted by: Jen the original at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM (CGdWK)

332 Testing.....

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM (sjdRT)

333 I can't get too worked up about Lefty scumbags stealing money from Lefty retards. The best part is that not a single one of these Lefty retards will learn a thing. You could start up another Fake Organization/Charity/Go Fund Me and the same idiots who got ripped off in this one will donate again. In fact, I bet some Lefty retards will still give money to this fake organization.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM (lRrON)

334 Alexandria Titty Caca. QED. Sady.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

I'll see your Titty Caca and raise you an AtC.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:25 PM (UYkjZ)

How much does it take to raise AtC?

Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM (786Ro)

335 Why are the AoSHQ trolls such stupid, brain damaged, vile, hell bound scum?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM (37KL6)

336 Not to be selfish, but what about me? a 30-something not really slacker with 2 advanced degrees, nearly 6 figures in debt, most at 10% or so interest, and a job that does not pay anywhere near enough for me to ever make any meaningful progress on that debt?

No kidding! I bought a brand new Mercedes Benz G 63 AMG to support my job delivering pizza. And while I have six figures in debt, and my fuel bill is through the roof, my income and tips aren't making any meaningful progress on that debt!

Posted by: Pedro the Uber Eats Driver at December 02, 2020 04:33 PM (C+evo)

337 Not to be selfish, but what about me? a 30-something
not really slacker with 2 advanced degrees, nearly 6 figures in debt,
most at 10% or so interest, and a job that does not pay anywhere near
enough for me to ever make any meaningful progress on that debt?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Are you good looking? sexy? If so, you could hang out in Montecito, CA and snag yourself a rich sugar mama.

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 02, 2020 04:33 PM (a0IVu)

338 We interrupt this thread to remind everyone that people are apparently beginning to realize that Biden relies on adult diapers and is frequently sh*tting himself around staff.

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at December 02, 2020 04:33 PM (9nhoD)

339 One advanced degree on borrowed money was enough. The second one you should have paid for with the earnings from the first. I am debt free and the earnings my JD enabled me have enabled me to attain a degree in on-line Moron pop psychology analysis. And now you are better for it!
Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2020 04:31 PM (KAi1n)

Well, the degrees kind of worked in tandem, but yeah -- you're not wrong. JD would have sufficed.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 02, 2020 04:33 PM (UPoLF)

340 >>>"We're doing well by doing good."

"Truly, I say to you, they have their reward. "

Really simple biblical concept you cannot "do good" while expecting temporal profit from the action regardless what form it takes.

Posted by: mikethemoose at December 02, 2020 04:33 PM (Y6UV7)

341 Nope. I'm arguing that the Bill of Rights backstop you're saying protects your rights is nothing but wet paper mache. As soon as the left decides it doesn't want to protect the 1st anymore, it'll be trampled as thoroughly as the 2nd.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (UW2ZS)
---------------

Eh, the reality is: It's already happening.

MSM is moving to become the credentialed purveyor of truth. Though it'll require an end run around the 1st, I'm sure it will happen.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 04:33 PM (WEBkv)

342 Must not be Welsh.....too many vowels.
Posted by: JT at December 02, 2020 04:26 PM

Y sy tht lk t's Bd Thng.

Posted by: Cymru Moronau at December 02, 2020 04:33 PM (DMUuz)

343 The Root: "Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People"

Posted by: Let's do some Madlibs on this one at December 02, 2020 04:34 PM (BBWrU)

344 Of course, he lost it all and ended up in jail, but that's not the point. He hustled and didn't go to collage and was a huge success for a while. His ex-wife is still rich.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (xfb67)

That's funny but also kind of sad

Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 04:34 PM (786Ro)

345 >How much does it take to raise AtC?

Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM (786Ro)

18 years and X missed doses of human growth hormone.

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 02, 2020 04:34 PM (sjdRT)

346 he was fired, because he was gambling in mob hangouts, isn't that right, dan moldea's book interference, brought that point up,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at December 02, 2020 04:34 PM (hMlTh)

347 I understand; It is upsetting. I was just looking
for things to laugh at. I am not an advocate of the Prosperity Gospel
or the lifestyle that goes along with it for the pastors.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:31 PM (WkPC9)

I believe that. You and I disagree on a great many things - but I would not hesitate to have you hold a large amount of cash on my behalf for safekeeping. You can be trusted.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:34 PM (/LX46)

348 Moar Emerald Robinson!

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 02, 2020 04:34 PM (83bQb)

349 I do remember seeing a video in 2003 of him drunk hitting on a ESPN reporter on TV. He later said that this incident turned his life around and he quit drinking. Good for him.
Posted by: Cheri at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM

Howie Carr plays that clip about "the team struggling" frequently.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2020 04:34 PM (ejd/p)

350 Did that Smollett thing ever get prosecuted? Weren't the feds involved, or some other state-level outfit took over?

Yeah, I crack myself up, but I really don't know.

Didn't follow that head-shakingly comical pathetic bit of corruption and race-baiting closely, and it was soon overtaken and overshadowed by a much more massive and pernicious campaign of the same.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 02, 2020 04:35 PM (OTzUX)

351 I love everyone.How about you?

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 04:35 PM (Ir6jC)

352 343 The Root: "Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People"
Posted by: Let's do some Madlibs on this one at December 02, 2020 04:34 PM (BBWrU)

++++++++++++++++++++

Yes. Good. More of this. Decloak yourselves leftists. Expose how unnormal and out of the mainstream all your views are.

If we can clean up voter integrity there's a whole generation of normal black voters just waiting to join the Trump train.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 02, 2020 04:35 PM (ZR7kf)

353 you went 100K in debt to get two advanced degrees in low paying fields of employment? and you continue to live in NYC, the most expensive place in the US. you could pay off that loan in one year working as a long haul trucker or in 2 years working the rigs in west TX.

Or even less time if you could weld pipe.

Posted by: Pedro the Uber Eats Driver at December 02, 2020 04:35 PM (C+evo)

354 I understand; It is upsetting. I was just looking for things to laugh at. I am not an advocate of the Prosperity Gospel or the lifestyle that goes along with it for the pastors.

But a new car instead of the beat up on from 2004 would be nice.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:31 PM (WkPC9)
------------

Blab and grab

Name and claim

These are a few of my favorite things!

When the bills are due, when car don't run, I just say a few of my favorite give me prayers and then I don't feel so sad....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 02, 2020 04:35 PM (WEBkv)

355 My understanding is that losing your tax exempt status at church just means your congregation can't claim it on their taxes. Is there more to it? I can't imagine it being that punitive, although I haven't ever had to deal with it so I don't know the details.
Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (IHRQq)

Yes, any income to the church now is taxable to the church itself. Most 501c3 non profits also receive benefits at banks, stores, etc in the form of reduced or free services( which the entity giving can deduct from their own taxes, once that is gone, most businesses will not give free services or items).
Posted by: Jen the original

Land is now taxable, as well as the building.
Some old churches are sitting on prime real estate.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:35 PM (UYkjZ)

356 >>> The US government took over the student loan business in 2010.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (GbPPJ)

One of the anthropomorphic Federal acronyms Sallie Mae. But now they're a private corporation that swims in government money. Kind of like the racket it would be if the US Postal Service got "privatized" but with guaranteed government funding.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2020 04:35 PM (l6b3d)

357 >>How much does it take to raise AtC?

*Sings*

You raise me uuup...

Posted by: Josh Grobin at December 02, 2020 04:36 PM (84H1w)

358 352 343 The Root: "Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People"
Posted by: Let's do some Madlibs on this one at December 02, 2020 04:34 PM (BBWrU)

++++++++++++++++++++

Yes. Good. More of this. Decloak yourselves leftists. Expose how unnormal and out of the mainstream all your views are.

If we can clean up voter integrity there's a whole generation of normal black voters just waiting to join the Trump train.
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 02, 2020 04:35 PM (ZR7kf)

==========

The next fight will be state level directed at election integrity.

If your state representative isn't interested in it, do everything to get them out of that seat.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 02, 2020 04:36 PM (NWM+b)

359 Matt Braynard provides actual evidence, names, addresses and SocSecurity numbers of a large enough group of actual voters that, if these names are investigated, can prove Biden did not win.
(sorry, the link goes to a FoxBusiness video clip, but at least it's Lou Dobbs)

https://tinyurl.com/yxj4twem

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:36 PM (szqvX)

360 Jewsus will provide. Just Pray.

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 04:36 PM (Ir6jC)

361 Are you good looking? sexy? If so, you could hang out in Montecito, CA and snag yourself a rich sugar mama.
Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 02, 2020 04:33 PM

And if you're really good, you could, how you say, snag quite a few.

Posted by: Paolo at December 02, 2020 04:36 PM (DMUuz)

362 If Tchen were Bannon, and the cause was We Build the Wall, Tchen would be under indictment already.

Posted by: flounder at December 02, 2020 04:36 PM (KnJdm)

363 has there been any good news for us today on the legal front?

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 02, 2020 04:36 PM (a0IVu)

364 >>> Scumbag Georgia SecState criminals are mad at us. https://tinyurl.com/y5hbvo8o Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:02 PM (szqvX)

Wah wah, so sad. Did the GA SoS have naked pictures of dead women sent to his phone, implying that was what would happen to his daughter? After having his daughter's school doxxed? Like what the BLM/SJW crowd did to the vote certifiers?

Then he can go whine quietly in a corner. He should be GRATEFUL we do not play like the left does.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2020 04:36 PM (Rbfr/)

365 AoSHQ is the best site on the web but the trolls are the worst.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 02, 2020 04:36 PM (37KL6)

366 I've seen a variation on the Gadsden Flag that has the motto "Time's Up", instead of the usual one ... seems apropos right now, for some reason.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 02, 2020 04:37 PM (/On2j)

367 248
They're small, but quick.

hmm. seems like you'd need to lead them *more* rather than less, as hollywood told me.

once again, hollywood fails me.

Posted by: Anachronda at December 02, 2020 04:37 PM (sGtp+)

368 340 >>>"We're doing well by doing good."

"Truly, I say to you, they have their reward. "

Really simple biblical concept you cannot "do good" while expecting temporal profit from the action regardless what form it takes.
Posted by: mikethemoose at December 02, 2020 04:33 PM (Y6UV7)
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Exactly. Tax exemption is temporal reward.

Posted by: Gilded at December 02, 2020 04:37 PM (yexjH)

369 I refuse to sign the defense bill unless 230 is repealed and the words "diaper" and "don" are never placed next to each other again!

Posted by: Your Big Wet President at December 02, 2020 04:37 PM (P4sqS)

370 So many people are getting flame thrown so much.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:37 PM (GbPPJ)

371 Guess y'all don't care about the starving otters, huh? Ok, fine.

Please donate to the Duke Lowell Home for Wayward Porcupines.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

I pledge 1000 Peruvian Pakas !!!

Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days ... at December 02, 2020 04:37 PM (LPnfS)

372 285 Student loans should be backed by the university's endowment. It should be part of the acceptance criteria of the school that, if the student wishes to obtain loan financing from a bank, the university will need to underwrite the student's prospective performance / future ability to repay the loan and issue a guarantee to the bank (with their endowment as collateral) that the loan will be repaid.
This would fix many of the problems that plague the American education system overnight.
Posted by: Revenant
____________

Oh please, this ^^^^^
Posted by: Furious George at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM (9vQJW)

Endowments are given with strict guidelines as to what they can be used for. You can't simply underwrite student loans with them, there are myriad IRS regulations regarding the tax deductiblity and benefits of giving an endowment to a university( which , lets face it, that is why most endowment monies are given). The donor stipulates exactly what it is to be used for such as a new building, or an athletic facility or scholarships for transgender women seeking to become law students. The university can't ignore those stipulations, which is why so many univeristies have these major endowments despite having to lay off staff, borrow, etc.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 02, 2020 04:38 PM (CGdWK)

373 No, no no, I love you all. Think about it.

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 04:38 PM (Ir6jC)

374 Guess y'all don't care about the starving otters, huh? Ok, fine.

Please donate to the Duke Lowell Home for Wayward Porcupines.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

I pledge 1000 Peruvian Pakas !!!
Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days

I pledge 2000 Australian quokkas.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:38 PM (UYkjZ)

375 nearly 6 figures in debt,

most at 10% or so interest, and a job that does not pay anywhere near

enough for me to ever make any meaningful progress on that debt?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

================
refinance. right now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:38 PM (szqvX)

376 370
So many people are getting flame thrown so much.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:37 PM (GbPPJ)

It's at this moment that I would like to point out that I just got here.

Posted by: flounder at December 02, 2020 04:39 PM (KnJdm)

377 >>> The Root: "Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People" Posted by: Let's do some Madlibs on this one at December 02, 2020 04:34 PM (BBWrU) ++++++++++++++++++++
Yes. Good. More of this. Decloak yourselves leftists. Expose how unnormal and out of the mainstream all your views are.

Live by intersectionality, die by it too.

I think some of this nonsense is why Trump got 80 million votes this election...stolen from him, but he got them. People are tired of this.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2020 04:39 PM (Rbfr/)

378 Pumpernickel, havarti, and lox. FTW

Posted by: SFGoth at December 02, 2020 04:39 PM (KAi1n)

379 How much does it take to raise AtC?
Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM

* raises hand *

Posted by: Booster chair at December 02, 2020 04:39 PM (DMUuz)

380 So many people are getting flame thrown so much.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria

Lady, you ain't kiddn'.

Posted by: Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 02, 2020 04:39 PM (OUMaO)

381 Our culture has become predatory, preying upon the innocent, gullible and just plain stupid. It's a libertarian paradise.

Posted by: DFCtomm at December 02, 2020 04:39 PM (50gG9)

382 The US government took over the student loan business in 2010.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (GbPPJ)

Ah?

I did not know that.

Well it used to be the reason getting a huge student loan was easy as pie.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (ifmtJ)

Part of the Affordable Care Act budget reconciliation process (2011)

Posted by: Now that is passed, you can read it at December 02, 2020 04:39 PM (BBWrU)

383 I do remember seeing a video in 2003 of him drunk hitting on a ESPN reporter on TV. He later said that this incident turned his life around and he quit drinking. Good for him.
Posted by: Cheri at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM

I vaguely remember that. He was quite the hound dog.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 02, 2020 04:39 PM (nxdel)

384 AoSHQ is the best site on the web but the trolls are the worst.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 02, 2020 04:36 PM (37KL6)

Meh. The current crop of trolls can't hold a candle to the doozies we used to get. Those guys had rage-inducing down to a science.

Then Soros got cheap and replaced the Russian mercenaries with China's 50 cent army. Made in China, y'know?

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (TOCce)

385 french fries are probably the best food on the planet. home made ones in particular.

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (Ir6jC)

386 Scumbag Georgia SecState criminals are mad at us.

Let's hope that doubles the vitriol he's receiving.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (oVJmc)

387 How much does it take to raise AtC?
Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM

As many has as can fit on her ass?

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (jOcSX)

388 >It's at this moment that I would like to point out that I just got here.

Posted by: flounder at December 02, 2020 04:39 PM (KnJdm)

** stands behind flounder**

I'd like to go on the record that flame broiled flounder is delish.

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (sjdRT)

389 Guess y'all don't care about the starving otters, huh? Ok, fine.

Please donate to the Duke Lowell Home for Wayward Porcupines.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

I pledge 1000 Peruvian Pakas !!!
Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days

I pledge 2000 Australian quokkas.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:38 PM

I'll kick in 4 calling birds, 3 French hens, 2 turtledoves and a partridge in a pear tree.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (ejd/p)

390 343 The Root: "Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People"

Grievance Bingo is the Left's National Pastime.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (oVJmc)

391 The "love Jesus" troll bot is back again ( Ir6jC )

Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (786Ro)

392 I try to be sensitive to talk around money as everyone has personal situations...
The student loan thing, I don't have much stomach for nor fuks to give.
I worked 2 jobs in my 20's to lower 30's to pay mine.. 2, because I wanted them gone and I also wanted stuff.
I know to be able to do both, one job wasn't going to cut it, because math.
I'm not some special unique snowflake.. if I can do it, it can be done so pay your loans.
That being said, the inflation rate for college is as high as it is because of the easy loans so something should change there, I'm also on board with the college being somewhat on the hook. That would be going forward though, if you took a loan.. you signed by the terms, you pay the loan.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (+2xjH)

393 Drudge tells me to bring out yer dead.

Posted by: wth at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (v0R5T)

394 AoSHQ is the best site on the web but the trolls are the worst.

I agree, they are horrible. They aren't even trying. Sad.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at December 02, 2020 04:41 PM (nxdel)

395 Get ready for a false nood

Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 04:41 PM (786Ro)

396 Yeah... I don't want to be mean, Harry, but that was your choice. I went to state school because I couldn't afford MIT. I don't regret it as I'm very satisfied with my career path, and I definitely don't regret graduating with zero education debt thanks to scholarships and working, but I'd very likely have had opportunities at MIT I didn't have at A&M. I forwent those opportunities because of money. Other people probably felt the opportunities were worth the cost (there was certainly no shortage of people telling me it was a waste for me not to go to MIT), so they took on the debt. Some of them probably regret it, and others probably don't. C'est la vie.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at December 02, 2020 04:41 PM (rWZ8Y)

397 Part of the Affordable Care Act budget reconciliation process (2011)

Because Health Care.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 02, 2020 04:41 PM (oVJmc)

398 Ditto. I like that you can sponsor a specific animal, and you get updates on them about 4 times a year. I sponsor several birds there.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2020 04:30 PM (ZGrMX)

Awesome!

Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 02, 2020 04:41 PM (5FCda)

399 nood !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at December 02, 2020 04:41 PM (/On2j)

400 >>> 370 So many people are getting flame thrown so much.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 02, 2020 04:37 PM (GbPPJ)

putting marshmallows on all the sticks

Posted by: banana Dream at December 02, 2020 04:42 PM (l6b3d)

401 I'll kick in 4 calling birds, 3 French hens, 2 turtledoves and a partridge in a pear tree.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (ejd/p)

What IS a calling bird? Is that a chirping bird or a variety of bird?

Posted by: CN at December 02, 2020 04:42 PM (ONvIw)

402 285 Student loans should be backed by the university's endowment. It should be part of the acceptance criteria of the school that, if the student wishes to obtain loan financing from a bank, the university will need to underwrite the student's prospective performance / future ability to repay the loan and issue a guarantee to the bank (with their endowment as collateral) that the loan will be repaid.
This would fix many of the problems that plague the American education system overnight.
Posted by: Revenant

Well stated position

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 02, 2020 04:42 PM (+2xjH)

403 You mean Time's Up, a creation of Hollywood, was all just an act? That they were insincere, dishonest, and hypocritical?

That's so unusual of them. Trump must've made 'em not do anything.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at December 02, 2020 04:42 PM (HhXSr)

404 NOOD Chris Wray to stay

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at December 02, 2020 04:42 PM (48RE5)

405 How much does it take to raise AtC?
Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 04:32 PM

*scratches on pad*

let's see, add the circumference of The Rack, add pie, divide by her height...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2020 04:42 PM (ejd/p)

406 303 Did anyone in the last thread mention the reason that FBI prick Somma used an alias with Carter Page is that Somma was Stephan Halper's handler, and didn't want Page to get suspicious in case he knew the name.
Posted by: SSBN656 (G) at December 02, 2020 04:27 PM (5AVMW)

Halper was used by GHWB in 1979-1980 to sneak around behind Jimmy Carter's back, definitely involved in keeping those hostages in Iran longer than necessary, and I wonder about who tipped them off about the rescue attempt.

Bush family crimes are as bad, or worse, than Cllinton family crimes.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at December 02, 2020 04:42 PM (YkawN)

407 Of course Biden is having "accidents". He's the Pee-resident Elect now!

Posted by: andycanuck at December 02, 2020 04:42 PM (UDapT)

408 >It's at this moment that I would like to point out that I just got here.

Posted by: flounder at December 02, 2020 04:39 PM (KnJdm)
.........

Been busy writing fan mail?

Posted by: Bullwinkle at December 02, 2020 04:43 PM (v0R5T)

409 I'll kick in 4 calling birds, 3 French hens, 2 turtledoves and a partridge in a pear tree.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Dang! I wanted those pears for baking ...

Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days ... at December 02, 2020 04:43 PM (LPnfS)

410 This reminds me of "American Outlaws" they set up an organization where Chapters join and give money so Help Supporters of American Soccer, they Money that's raised is used for travel and Tickets for the 3 People that run American Outlaws. So they get other people to pay for all their travel around the World, Pay for their Tickets and Flights. Also 2 of the people are married to each other.

I just wish I thought of a scam like this

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at December 02, 2020 04:43 PM (dKiJG)

411 355 My understanding is that losing your tax exempt status at church just means your congregation can't claim it on their taxes. Is there more to it? I can't imagine it being that punitive, although I haven't ever had to deal with it so I don't know the details.
Posted by: squid_hunt at December 02, 2020 04:24 PM (IHRQq)

Yes, any income to the church now is taxable to the church itself. Most 501c3 non profits also receive benefits at banks, stores, etc in the form of reduced or free services( which the entity giving can deduct from their own taxes, once that is gone, most businesses will not give free services or items).
Posted by: Jen the original

Land is now taxable, as well as the building.
Some old churches are sitting on prime real estate.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 02, 2020 04:35 PM (UYkjZ)

...

When all the church's income is taxed at corporate rates it's crushing, and yes the property tax stuff is also un-survivable for many churches.

There is no shortage of municipalities that are keeping churches out by not approving the tax-exempt status of their land when they apply. Just refusing to remove anything from the property tax rolls. Presto--no new churches in your area.

Posted by: Day Old Babies at December 02, 2020 04:43 PM (yL25O)

412 I want to be a social media star!

*....maybe a cookbook?*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob -- try my Cowboy Tea! Its brewed on the range! at December 02, 2020 04:43 PM (WekKK)

413 Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:34 PM (/LX46)

Thanks, ABL; I appreciate that.

We might not disagree on that many things. We're both on a conservative site-not "swinging leftists"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:43 PM (WkPC9)

414 Real nood came, so the troll can't call a false one. Heh

Posted by: Hands at December 02, 2020 04:43 PM (786Ro)

415 Exactly. Tax exemption is temporal reward.

Posted by: Gilded at December 02, 2020 04:37 PM (yexjH)

That reminds me I heard a commercial for a "temporal thermometer" and I had to think about it for a min. Temporal - related to time but also to the region of the temples on your head.

Why only have one word for 2 unrelated things?

Or bow (verb, like 2 the king) vs bow (noun, crossbow). WTF is wrong with English?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 02, 2020 04:44 PM (xfb67)

416 >>>The Root: "Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People"

When they came for The CisHetWhiteMan I said nothing because I wasn't white.....

News flash, anyone who puts individual rights ahead of the collective agenda is their enemy, and will be targeted eventually.

That includes LGBTQ+, eventually you will be the target too.

Pro choice, folks the day the left realizes their population goals (which to be fair is long in the future) there won't be a choice. The left sees women as sex objects, political pawns, and brood mares as necessary to forward their goals. It's just a current goal to reduce the global population. Conversely if they decide that population drop needs to be a bit more aggressive don't expect a "choice" about birth control or abortion.

Posted by: mikethemoose at December 02, 2020 04:44 PM (Y6UV7)

417 >>> Scumbag Georgia SecState criminals are mad at us.

Let's hope that doubles the vitriol he's receiving.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 02, 2020 04:40 PM (oVJmc)

Seriously. Listen to your consituents and do your dang job, and all these pesky deplorable hobbits will stop harassing you. It's not rocket surgery.

Posted by: LizLem at December 02, 2020 04:44 PM (Rbfr/)

418 can we all agree we all love jesus? i do love him.

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 04:45 PM (Ir6jC)

419 Dang! I wanted those pears for baking ...
Posted by: Adriane Wot Sez 'Oy!' A Lot These Days ... at December 02, 2020 04:43 PM

Leave the bird. Take the pears.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 02, 2020 04:45 PM (ejd/p)

420 re: Mrs. Peel at December 02, 2020 04:41 PM (rWZ8Y)
------------------
Not me... I went to an expensive private college I couldn't afford and paid student loans for years. I wouldn't do it again. Never. After about 4 years, nobody cares where you went to school... they just care if you can do the job they want you to do.

Posted by: 496 at December 02, 2020 04:45 PM (U1eOr)

421 However... there is some real evidence that the blood sucking may not be figurative. That the sacrifice of children, so they can drink the blood, that it's really happening.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (hku12)

Absolutely. Even the most sadistic inquisitor of olden days would balk at accusations that a number of rich Jews were secretly abducting and molesting children. They'd be incredibly worried that their congregations would go berserk and murder every single Hebrew they could find, as opposed to "merely" driving the population from the country.

Now the accusations of rape and murder may actually be softball. Mass blackmail of the political and business elite, which was the Epstein business model, is tantamount to seditious behavior, if not open treason when performed on behalf of a foreign influence.

Posted by: trev006 at December 02, 2020 04:45 PM (bEzlA)

422 Our culture has become predatory, preying upon the innocent, gullible and just plain stupid. It's a libertarian paradise.
Posted by: DFCtomm at December 02, 2020 04:39 PM (50gG9)

I've always thought myself more "old school" libertarian than anything else. I don't think it's my duty to support the innocent, gullible, or stupid. But its sure as shit not my place to rob them, either. I can outwork them. I can out-produce them. And I should out-earn them when I do. But flat ass taking from them is still theft. And that's still shit.

Now - knowing that life's been good to me so far - I don't mind throwing a few sheckles into the pot to help those innocent, gullible, and stupid folk that are trying to help themselves. And that doesn't get me extra social credit points or a cooler spot in Hell - I just choose to.

It irritates me - the constant bagging on Libertarians. And I get it - they've turned into the open borders and free pot party. But it wasn't always that way. And I'm still not.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 02, 2020 04:45 PM (/LX46)

423 Endowments are given with strict guidelines as to what they can be used for. You can't simply underwrite student loans with them, there are myriad IRS regulations regarding the tax deductiblity and benefits of giving an endowment to a university( which , lets face it, that is why most endowment monies are given). The donor stipulates exactly what it is to be used for such as a new building, or an athletic facility or scholarships for transgender women seeking to become law students. The university can't ignore those stipulations, which is why so many univeristies have these major endowments despite having to lay off staff, borrow, etc.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 02, 2020 04:38 PM (CGdWK)

But whenever the Government decides that those rules are Inconvenient, that can all go out the window. What we need is something along the lines of Henry VIII's Dissolution of the Monasteries, which was actually quite a popular move when he made it, since the religious organizations had come to control much of England's wealth. Their land and money holdings were the 100 Billion dollar endowments of their day.

Fun trivia as to how Henry VIII financed his reign - after the Dissolution of the Monasteries, Henry transferred all of their silver holdings to the Tower in London, which was also the location of the Royal Mint. (Silver was much more in use than Gold in those days, gold being just too scarce to be used much) It was recorded that it took the Royal Mint 12 YEARS to melt down all the silver they collected and turn it into coinage, and that was with 24 hour shifts!

the real point is that it's been done before.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2020 04:46 PM (Kpl3J)

424 No, I love him. I love the jeebus.Call me a liar if you will.

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 04:46 PM (Ir6jC)

425 We might not disagree on that many things. We're both on a conservative site-not "swinging leftists"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:43 PM (WkPC9)

Wait... was that an option?

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:46 PM (jOcSX)

426 >AoSHQ is the best site on the web but the trolls are the worst.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 02, 2020 04:36 PM (37KL6)

Eh, they're a bunch of low-effort retards babbling about pee-pee and poo-poo. Sad!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 02, 2020 04:47 PM (L106N)

427 Every new Progressive "charity" or BLM-type outfit goes to the racket stage right away. None of the "begin with good intentions and end up as a racket a long time later" mode of operation for that crowd. They get to the scamming ASAP.

Posted by: Gref at December 02, 2020 04:47 PM (AMIL/)

428 Posted by: Mrs. Peel at December 02, 2020 04:41 PM (rWZ8Y)

I don't think you boomers understand exactly how much the cost of tuition has inflated since the government got involved. There are pictures of Hillary working her way through college by working in a fish canning plant in Alaska. Today those jobs are being worked by immigrants, legal and illegal, and they probably don't pay much more today than they did then. What you did in the summer of 68 means nothing today.

Posted by: DFCtomm at December 02, 2020 04:47 PM (50gG9)

429 refinance. right now.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 02, 2020 04:38 PM (szqvX)

SoFi says in the fine print that fixed refinance loan rates are between 2.28% and 6.98%. Might be worth checking out .

Posted by: Jen the original at December 02, 2020 04:47 PM (CGdWK)

430 (L106N), bigly sad and truer

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 04:48 PM (Ir6jC)

431 383 I do remember seeing a video in 2003 of him drunk hitting on a ESPN reporter on TV. He later said that this incident turned his life around and he quit drinking. Good for him.
Posted by: Cheri at December 02, 2020 04:29 PM

Suzi Kolber. Very cute but I don't think guys are her type.

Posted by: clutch at December 02, 2020 04:48 PM (9UmRs)

432 79 Trump speech on election fraud and legal challenges

https://tinyurl.com/y6py56lo
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 02, 2020 04:01 PM (ZR7kf)

Yes!

Posted by: Gilded at December 02, 2020 04:48 PM (yexjH)

433 Wait... was that an option?
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 04:46 PM (jOcSX)

I would imagine there IS a swinging leftist site. I'm a conservative: I don't swing; Holding onto the rope while moving makes me dizzy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:49 PM (WkPC9)

434 So, is Ace the ... gay? I don't really care ... but curious.

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 04:49 PM (Ir6jC)

435 What you did in the summer of 68 means nothing today.
Posted by: DFCtomm at December 02, 2020 04:47 PM

It was The Summer of '69.

Posted by: Bryan Highland at December 02, 2020 04:50 PM (DMUuz)

436 So, is Ace the ... gay? I don't really care ... but curious.

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 04:49 PM (Ir6jC)

Sure, he will fuck you up the ass, but no kissing.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at December 02, 2020 04:52 PM (yQpMk)

437 I know Biden's brain is fried because if I was him I'd take $2 million of my Hunter grift and put it on Trump to win at 35-1. Then the next day I'd concede.

Posted by: President_Elect Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at December 02, 2020 04:52 PM (LBiyC)

438 However... there is some real evidence that the blood sucking may not be figurative. That the sacrifice of children, so they can drink the blood, that it's really happening.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2020 04:08 PM (hku12)

There is something to that, and I suspect that is a thriving underground business somewhere, but it's not drinking the blood of the young. They did an experiment where they gave an old, cow I believe, regular infusions of blood from a young cow, and the old cow got younger.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5836258/

Posted by: DFCtomm at December 02, 2020 04:53 PM (50gG9)

439 > What we need is something along the lines of Henry VIII's Dissolution of the Monasteries, which was actually quite a popular move when he made it, since the religious organizations had come to control much of England's wealth.

I might point out that the nobles (politicians) of the day all did quite well for their approval therein.

Posted by: It's like history repeats itself at December 02, 2020 04:54 PM (BBWrU)

440 "Why are the AoSHQ trolls such stupid, brain damaged, vile, hell bound scum?"

If the lousy wankers would pay their dues, we would help.

Posted by: Stoopid, vile, dain bramaged hell bound scum trolls, Local 538 at December 02, 2020 04:54 PM (uxUoN)

441 >>> Plus I met Miss Vermont. I got to ring the bell with her
---

That's what I'm talking about!

Posted by: Donna Summer, sitting in for Gilded at December 02, 2020 04:55 PM (yexjH)

442 I didn't renew with the NRA this year. That place needs a serious housecleaning.

#metoo And I had just started paying for a Life membership on the installment plan when all the stuff about LaPierre's grifting came out.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 02, 2020 04:56 PM (qc+VF)

443 I almost did a lifetime payment to the NRA. It was cheap, and now....

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 05:00 PM (Ir6jC)

444 Gabriel Sterling from the GA SOS office is typical GOPe grifter. Appears the last 25 years he's been moving from Republican-this to Republican-that, going up the easy money ladder w his self-professed "conservative values."

Posted by: EveR at December 02, 2020 05:00 PM (DsGxB)

445 What is the NRA good for?

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 05:01 PM (Ir6jC)

446 I would imagine there IS a swinging leftist site. I'm a conservative: I don't swing; Holding onto the rope while moving makes me dizzy.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 04:49 PM (WkPC9)

From what I've read, swingers tend more conservative. Leftists are more into BDSM.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 05:02 PM (jOcSX)

447 I don't care if you all are gay, can't we all just get along?

Posted by: Love at December 02, 2020 05:04 PM (Ir6jC)

448 Vic,

Heal!

And I'm sure hope the real story about "the fall in the kitchen" was more fun. And involved busty Scandinavians from Palma de Majorca.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2020 05:33 PM (u82oZ)

449 Colorado Alex in Exile

You are most informative. I need to read more.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2020 05:33 PM (u82oZ)

450 Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 02, 2020 05:02 PM (jOcSX)

This conservative doesn't tend either way.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 02, 2020 05:42 PM (WkPC9)

451 How's this for a Constitutional amendment? Any federal employee convicted of using his position in the government as a means to enrich themselves (beyond their federal salary) shall be publicly executed by being drawn and quartered.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 02, 2020 05:45 PM (G2qBp)

452 From what I've read, swingers tend more conservative. Leftists are more into BDSM.
From my interactions with porn stars while I was a bouncer, most porn actresses and actors are politically right wing.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 02, 2020 05:49 PM (G2qBp)

453 From my interactions with porn stars while I was a bouncer, most porn actresses and actors are politically right wing.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 02, 2020 05:49 PM (G2qBp)

And by that you mean Libertarians. I doubt there were many practicing Baptists or even Muslims. You know the people who are conservative.

Posted by: DFCtomm at December 02, 2020 06:03 PM (50gG9)

454 Fact is, all that grift is borrowed. Congress figured out about 25 years ago that all that lucre could just be manufactured out of whole cloth. The grift will end only when it becomes too expensive to roll over. This will only happen when either (1) the Fed stops monetizing it and praying to God that the most regressive of all taxes (inflation) doesn't rip this country apart or (2) the rest of the world, including China, decides we're not a good credit risk anymore. That day is a long way away, and there's a whole lotta Lambos that are going to be needed for that 9am commute from Falls Church to K Street in the meantime.

Posted by: trappedmnsotan at December 02, 2020 06:38 PM (N7TnO)

455 how does it end, save for (deleted fed post)?

Posted by: DJ3Way at December 02, 2020 06:51 PM (bhPL1)

456 Great post and right to the point. I am not sure if
this is truly the best place to ask but do you guys have
any ideea where to get some professional writers?
Thanks in advance

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