John Hayward on our loathsome elites [Buck Throckmorton]

This is a great essay tweeted out by John Hayward about our loathsome elites.

Privileged elites always want to assert their status by indulging in pleasures denied to the lower classes. This often leads them into immoral, deranged, and even criminal behavior. They're desperate to flaunt their power by doing what lesser folk are forbidden to do.

This is one of the reasons for the wave of sexual harassment, sexual assault, and pedophilia among the richest and most powerful. They indulge increasingly depraved appetites to savor the sweet, sweet high of doing what ordinary people cannot, feasting on the food of the gods.

It's also one of the reasons high-living elites are drawn to puritanical secular pseudo-religions, like the Church of Global Warming and now the Church of Covid. They have a deep appetite for making aspects of modern life forbidden to the Little People, but not to themselves.

You'll notice that high acolytes of the Church of Global Warming have absolutely no intention of compromising THEIR extravagant lifestyles. They jet set, they have yachts and huge cars, they buy beachfront mansions on property they claim to believe will be underwater soon.

But they have a deep desire to make planes, cars, and accoutrements of the First World lifestyle forbidden to the proletariat. They love how their ideology elevates them into a superior overclass, reaffirming their importance by asserting they "need" or "deserve" so much more.

These elite appetites are useful to the Left because they fold neatly into its endless war against the hated middle class. The perversions of the elite inspire them to attack the morality that would otherwise help lower and middle class people improve their station in life.

Meanwhile, the fanatical puritan and luddite ideologies of the elite inspire them to restrict the resources and technologies that improve middle-class life and help people become more productive, which helps them earn more money and amass more capital.

Thus we have a culture that teaches young people to reject time-tested moral codes that would help them build better lives, instead making clumsy efforts to imitate the debauchery of the elites in ways that lead them to misery and ruin.

And our young people are taught to hate their own ambitions, to hate themselves for desiring lives that have big carbon footprints, to hate and distrust everything that could bring them prosperity and narrow the gap between their lifestyles and those of the elite.

Take a broad look at pop culture, political culture, and increasingly corporate culture as we head into 2021. Almost every bit of it has been crafted to make middle class people abandon their ambitions and program their children to fail... making Mount Olympus ever higher.

And then the political elite will demand even more control over our lives, to "fix" the ever-widening "inequality" gap their own policies and cultural programming made worse!

It's no wonder that some who dwell on the highest slopes of Mount Olympus are tempted to go even further, to indulge in dark appetites that would land lesser men in jail - a temptation that seems especially acute for male members of the extreme upper class.

They reach for the fruit that no other hand could pick, to remind one another that they are gods, even while loudly posturing as champions of socialism, feminism, and the Little Guy. The difference between what they DO and what they SAY is part of the rush.

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1 Whoa

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 27, 2020 04:51 PM (Do5/p)

2 This is all true. And a lot of people have noticed.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 27, 2020 04:53 PM (6XLoz)

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I might get matching sets for my 2 girls,

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 27, 2020 04:53 PM (7Fj9P)

4 Love Doc Zero!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at November 27, 2020 04:53 PM (SRRAx)

5 Limosine commies.

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 27, 2020 04:53 PM (w7KSn)

6 Top something

Posted by: Shoeless Guy (occasionally non-lurking) at November 27, 2020 04:54 PM (3r2w8)

7 ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: Zod at November 27, 2020 04:54 PM (xK9An)

8 Privileged elites deserve some lead poisoning.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 27, 2020 04:55 PM (pw+jk)

9 I'm waiting for the Closed Blogger post.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 27, 2020 04:55 PM (siY0G)

10 Limosine commies just want to return to the time of monarchies, serfdom, royal families and the divine right of kings...

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 27, 2020 04:56 PM (w7KSn)

11 Loathsome they are.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 27, 2020 04:56 PM (8B6Ng)

12 Could we please nuke-OX4lc troll?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2020 04:56 PM (WkPC9)

13 The dragging death, of just a few of the elites, would destroy the illusion that the elites had rights that the rest of us don't.

Posted by: gastorgrab at November 27, 2020 04:57 PM (u6OFe)

14 add a dash of White intra-race competition and you've got it down pat!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 27, 2020 04:57 PM (j9HX3)

15 I hate those privileged elites.

They're so privileged. And elitist.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2020 04:57 PM (hku12)

16 Ok weird. I am getting 403 Forbidden on the classicfirearms site all of a sudden.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 27, 2020 04:58 PM (siY0G)

17 There is a very good Quillette article about this. Veblen had his theory of the leisure class, that they signalled through conspicuous consumption - expensive and flashy goods. Today, the elite traffic in luxury beliefs to signal their status - like the trans supremacy movement.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at November 27, 2020 04:58 PM (RXBGW)

18 (Sabres off cork of 1947 Clos Du Bobbly)

>>Privileged elites deserve some lead poisoning.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 27, 2020 04:55 PM (pw+jk)

Arrest him. Arrest his wife, too. Have sex with her, and then sell them both. No, not to the Russians. To the, what's it, Indochinese.

(insert chuckle, Marlene Dietrich, long shot of riotous dance-club)

Posted by: Zod at November 27, 2020 04:58 PM (xK9An)

19 In before someone blames this on JackStraw

Posted by: President-Select Hands at November 27, 2020 04:59 PM (786Ro)

20 How many angeles dance on the head of a man made climate chainged pin? WE MUST KNOW

Posted by: Banned at November 27, 2020 04:59 PM (q4iKf)

21 Also: In before chique tries to steer thread into math

Posted by: President-Select Hands at November 27, 2020 04:59 PM (786Ro)

22 You dirty, ungrateful plebes. The reason we get to have nice things and you don't is due to all the sacrifices we make for the betterment of the world.

- Your betters

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 27, 2020 05:00 PM (iWCRg)

23 Mount Olympus?

We need a Kratos

Posted by: Methos at November 27, 2020 05:00 PM (kOpft)

24 >>21 In before someone blames this on JackStraw
Posted by: President-Select Hands at November 27, 2020 04:59 PM (786Ro)

He's a resident of "Rhode Island."

Rhode Island is a penal colony operated by Connecticut.

This is known.

Posted by: Zod at November 27, 2020 05:00 PM (xK9An)

25 Honestly, it's mostly just because I like coke and underaged girls.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at November 27, 2020 05:01 PM (jOcSX)

26 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 27, 2020 04:53 PM (7Fj9P)

Joys of living in CA.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 27, 2020 05:01 PM (8B6Ng)

27 John Hayward? Which John is he?

John Solomon
John Sexton
John Hayward
Steve Hayward
Steve Hayes

Can't keep em straight

Posted by: President-Select Hands at November 27, 2020 05:01 PM (786Ro)

28 In before someone blames this on JackStraw
Posted by: President-Select Hands at November 27, 2020 04:59 PM (786Ro)

He's a resident of "Rhode Island."

Rhode Island is a penal colony operated by Connecticut.

This is known.
Posted by: Zod at November 27, 2020 05:00 PM (xK9An)


If I told you it was a plantation, up until the election 3 weeks ago, would that shock you?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2020 05:02 PM (hku12)

29 Not to mention Mark Halperin vs Mark Helprin

Posted by: President-Select Hands at November 27, 2020 05:02 PM (786Ro)

30 Sadly Mark Halperin, the #metoo dude from one of the alphabet channels made it on to Newsmax. Can't stand him.

Posted by: squeakywheel at November 27, 2020 05:03 PM (/Pc8P)

31 Honestly, it's mostly just because I like coke and underaged girls.
Posted by: Hunter Biden at November 27, 2020 05:01 PM (jOcSX)


And unlike some other people we could mention (like your dad), at least you have the decency to keep it all in the family.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2020 05:03 PM (hku12)

32 Our political elite can bleed out from sudden onset lead poisoning, just like andy tifa does.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at November 27, 2020 05:04 PM (VcFUs)

33 >>If I told you it was a plantation, up until the election 3 weeks ago, would that shock you?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2020 05:02 PM (hku12)

No. No, not really.

If you told me that it was not, in fact, infested with wealthy homosexuals, though, that would shock me.

Posted by: Zod at November 27, 2020 05:04 PM (xK9An)

34 Thus we have a culture that teaches young people to reject time-tested moral codes that would help them build better lives

There was a right-wing sociology journal years ago (back when there were right-wing sociology journals), which noted that if a young woman did three things:

1) graduate from high school
2) didn't get pregnant in high school, and
3) waited until she was married to have a kid,

her chances of living in poverty were approximately zero.

That was it.

Of course, left-wing governments want dependency, so they do everything possible to discourage young women from doing those three things.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 27, 2020 05:05 PM (I2/tG)

35 I should've added: In before the scatalogical troll

(OX4lc) Needs the banhammer. Or a good flushing.

Posted by: President-Select Hands at November 27, 2020 05:05 PM (786Ro)

36 Chique!

What are your thoughts on the mathematical significance of 403 pages? Assume a perfectly spherical, black-body 403 page.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at November 27, 2020 05:05 PM (9IdCK)

37 For the first time, I am understanding the why of the French Revolution for the broader public.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 05:05 PM (u82oZ)

38 President-Select Hands and FenelonSpoke,

Looks to be bannhammered and gone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 05:07 PM (u82oZ)

39 For the first time, I am understanding the why of the French Revolution for the broader public.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 05:05 PM (u82oZ)

I always said when shit hit the fan it was going to have elements of the American revolution, the french revolution, and the American civil war. Nothing I have seen so far changes my mind.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 27, 2020 05:07 PM (9Om/r)

40 41 IS FUNNY BECAUSE, NO WAIT, IT'S NOT.

Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger at November 27, 2020 05:08 PM (rDq8D)

41 I always thought a similar impulse was at play when "elites' decried McMansions as soon as hard working people began to be able to afford them. popular.

Ditto for when SUV's started to become more popular.

When the upper crust was tooling around with Range Rovers, there was nothing wrong with them.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 27, 2020 05:08 PM (HrMC1)

42 Geez, the quality of trolls has really declined.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at November 27, 2020 05:09 PM (nxdel)

43 31 Not to mention Mark Halperin vs Mark Helprin
Posted by: President-Select Hands at November 27, 2020 05:02 PM (786Ro)


Mark Helprin >>>>>>>>>> Mark Halperin

Posted by: banana Dream at November 27, 2020 05:09 PM (l6b3d)

44 2 This is all true. And a lot of people have noticed.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 27, 2020 04:53 PM (6XLoz)

Thing is, is it enough to reach the tipping point, and considering the hard globalist left's consolidation of institutions, can it ever be enough at this point? It disgusts me, but when they can rig the votes, indoctrinate the masses and write the rules, while they control the flow of cash, the exercise of power and determine the narrative, there doesn't seem to be much of anything that I can do. You can stand athwart the Tiananmen tanks, but in the end, it is but a symbolic action with no input on the actual outcome.

Posted by: Average Loser at November 27, 2020 05:09 PM (8aO2d)

45 @TheSharpEdge1

"Hold it...I think we've got some BREAKING NEWS here...You're saying you're gonna get a joint resolution...to basically take the power back from the Sec of State and put it in the State Legislature to put forward the Electors?"

@SenMastriano
"That is exactly what we're gonna do"

Video at the link.

https://tinyurl.com/y3mxlaam

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:09 PM (ZLI7S)

46 Donnie Two Scoops does not tolerate trolls well.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at November 27, 2020 05:09 PM (9IdCK)

47 >>I always said when shit hit the fan it was going to have elements of the American revolution, the french revolution, and the American civil war. Nothing I have seen so far changes my mind.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 27, 2020 05:07 PM (9Om/r)

There have been plenty of opportunities for Rittenhousing.

There has been one.

Posted by: Zod at November 27, 2020 05:09 PM (xK9An)

48 Be back after the content

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 05:09 PM (9sWOw)

49 I reject the whole elite premise. They believe their own pr bullshit.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 27, 2020 05:10 PM (WN6IH)

50 For the first time, I am understanding the why of the French Revolution for the broader public.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 05:05 PM (u82oZ)


Amazing, right?

Maybe people just have a built-in hatred for the elites, whether right, left or Commie.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 27, 2020 05:10 PM (HrMC1)

51 Looks to be bannhammered and gone.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 05:07 PM (u82oZ)



it's right above you

Posted by: President-Select Hands at November 27, 2020 05:10 PM (786Ro)

52 I always said when shit hit the fan it was going to have elements of the American revolution, the french revolution, and the American civil war. Nothing I have seen so far changes my mind.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 27, 2020 05:07 PM (9Om/r)

Yeah, it's gonna get fugly real quick like. Working my arse off to get away from my bp meds. Prolly won't be available too much longer.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at November 27, 2020 05:11 PM (VcFUs)

53 Seeing in all the tin pot dictators demanding Covid-19 orders then do whatever they please and did before.

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 05:12 PM (9sWOw)

54 Not to mention Mark Halperin vs Mark Helprin
Posted by: President-Select Hands at November 27, 2020 05:02 PM (786Ro)


Helprin wrote a few long-winded but readable novels.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 27, 2020 05:12 PM (HrMC1)

55 Yeah, as someone else mentioned earlier, Joe must have shit his pants recently. The messaging that DJT has continence concerns is, as usual, too coordinated. Don't they know yet it's a "tell"?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 27, 2020 05:12 PM (evxBY)

56 >Working my arse off to get away from my bp meds. Prolly won't be available too much longer.
Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at November 27, 2020 05:11 PM (VcFUs)

Save a pill a week.

Posted by: Zod at November 27, 2020 05:12 PM (xK9An)

57 Will Hillary get a position in the 'new' WH? I'd guess consultant to Gramp's.

Posted by: Colin at November 27, 2020 05:13 PM (/7pK0)

58 >>I always said when shit hit the fan it was going to have elements of the American revolution, the french revolution, and the American civil war. Nothing I have seen so far changes my mind.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 27, 2020 05:07 PM (9Om/r)


I still think it'll look a lot like the Thirty Years War.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at November 27, 2020 05:14 PM (jOcSX)

59 55 Yeah, as someone else mentioned earlier, Joe must have shit his pants recently. The messaging that DJT has continence concerns is, as usual, too coordinated. Don't they know yet it's a "tell"?
Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 27, 2020 05:12 PM (evxBY)

Around these parts, we call that a "Nadler."

Posted by: Average Loser at November 27, 2020 05:14 PM (8aO2d)

60 I'm hopeful about CP lawsuit but not very.

Posted by: weirdflunky at November 27, 2020 05:14 PM (cknjq)

61 >>61 Will Hillary get a position in the 'new' WH? I'd guess consultant to Gramp's.
Posted by: Colin at November 27, 2020 05:13 PM (/7pK0)

Hillary = Edgar Bergen.

Posted by: Zod at November 27, 2020 05:14 PM (xK9An)

62 instead making clumsy efforts to imitate the debauchery of the elites

But the elites are very selective in their debauchery.

They are less likely to get divorced (no matter how they behave privately), and make sure that their kids get a first-rate education.

If the lower classes are dissolute, that's less competition for their kids.

One of the amusing things about the Hunter Biden document dump was that there was a succession of e-mails about Hunter's problems paying child support (big surprise), which included tuition for Hunter's kids at Sidwell Friends in Washington.

First things first.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 27, 2020 05:14 PM (I2/tG)

63 @57...Rumor is HRC wants SECDEF. Control over special forces, and some of the nukes. Great.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 27, 2020 05:15 PM (evxBY)

64
Maybe people just have a built-in hatred for the elites, whether right, left or Commie.
Posted by: JoeF.


The "elites" say we are jealous of them. I know that's Bill Maher's response.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2020 05:15 PM (63Dwl)

65 "Take a broad look at pop culture, political culture, and increasingly corporate culture as we head into 2021. Almost every bit of it has been crafted to make middle class people abandonIs their ambitions and program their children to fail... making Mount Olympus ever higher."

Along these lines, Netflix has a show about the making of Hot Chocolate Nutcracker? What's that you ask? It's The Nutcracker but with only POC dancers and only "modern" dances. In other words, take a classic and make it woke.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 27, 2020 05:15 PM (22mNy)

66 This is why i have warmed up to the idea of a wealth tax. If we can print a trillion dollars at will, we dont need any income tax. But we do need a 10% annual wealth tax. 10% of any net worth over $10 million annually. Excluding net worth of a single family farm operation or privately owned small business with under 50 employees.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:16 PM (dNzKv)

67 "It's The Nutcracker but with only POC dancers and only "modern" dances. In other words, take a classic and make it woke."

The Twerk Of The Wooden Soldiers?

Posted by: f'd at November 27, 2020 05:17 PM (+y8uL)

68 41 I always thought a similar impulse was at play when "elites' decried McMansions as soon as hard working people began to be able to afford them. popular.

Ditto for when SUV's started to become more popular.

When the upper crust was tooling around with Range Rovers, there was nothing wrong with them.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 27, 2020 05:08 PM (HrMC1)

___

Good obversation.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 27, 2020 05:17 PM (22mNy)

69 65 "Take a broad look at pop culture, political culture, and increasingly corporate culture as we head into 2021. Almost every bit of it has been crafted to make middle class people abandonIs their ambitions and program their children to fail... making Mount Olympus ever higher."

Along these lines, Netflix has a show about the making of Hot Chocolate Nutcracker? What's that you ask? It's The Nutcracker but with only POC dancers and only "modern" dances. In other words, take a classic and make it woke.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 27, 2020 05:15 PM (22mNy)

Isn't that cultural appropriation?

Posted by: Marybeth - TRUMP WON BIGLY! at November 27, 2020 05:17 PM (4pK1/)

70 That's nice, what to do about it?

Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at November 27, 2020 05:18 PM (cMXNt)

71 >>> Helprin wrote a few long-winded but readable novels.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 27, 2020 05:12 PM (HrMC1)

They're somewhat long. Not aging fantasy writer long certainly, but there is meat to them. However, they are paced well, beautifully written, and I've always been captivated through to the end.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 27, 2020 05:18 PM (l6b3d)

72 Rumor is HRC wants SECDEF. Control over special forces, and some of the nukes. Great.

ALL of the nukes.

Any nuclear strike order goes through the Secretary of Defense.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 27, 2020 05:18 PM (I2/tG)

73
Here's how evil and manipulative the Fake News and "social" media are:

The "Trump lost all his court cases" Narrative began before the president lost a lawsuit in the courts.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 27, 2020 05:18 PM (tfMsm)

74 Lizzo will be the Sugar Plum Fairy.

Posted by: f'd at November 27, 2020 05:19 PM (+y8uL)

75
Save a pill a week.
Posted by: Zod at November 27, 2020 05:12 PM (xK9An)

I am already off two of them. Dieting and exercising to get off the last two.

But saving some of those, oh hell yes. That is a very good suggestion. Thank you for that.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at November 27, 2020 05:19 PM (VcFUs)

76 hmmmmm

Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page has filed a lawsuit against James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page, the FBI, the DOJ, and others over his treatment leading up to Robert Mueller's Russia investigation.

He's reportedly seeking $75 million in damages.


hat tip: twitchy ...

Posted by: Adriane the Cornbread are Square, Pie are Round Critic ... at November 27, 2020 05:20 PM (LPnfS)

77 Let's try again.

@KDKA

#BREAKING NEWS: Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania have introduced a resolution intending to dispute the 2020 election results. https://cbsloc.al/3q6Qht4

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:20 PM (ZLI7S)

78
"It's The Nutcracker but with only POC dancers and only "modern" dances. In other words, take a classic and make it woke."

The Twerk Of The Wooden Soldiers?
Posted by: f'd


Do You Smell What I Smell?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2020 05:20 PM (63Dwl)

79 I shame the progressive healthcare professionals I work with on a daily basis for driving their single occupancy vehicles to work every day.

They always have an excuse. Now, of course, it's COVID.

I don't let them get away with it.

If Mother Earth isn't important enough for them to modify their own lifestyle, why the fuck should I?

But, I ride public transport every day and walk.

And I'm the evil earth destroying conservative.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 27, 2020 05:20 PM (U2p+3)

80 Explains Epstein's appeal

Posted by: Iblis at November 27, 2020 05:20 PM (abOpZ)

81 The Left only understands violence.

Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at November 27, 2020 05:20 PM (cMXNt)

82 great essay

exhibit A
Hunter's laptop

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 27, 2020 05:21 PM (nUhF0)

83 Trump is back to trolling

Biden can only enter the White House as President if he can prove that his ridiculous 80,000,000 votes were not fraudulently or illegally obtained.
-----
Seems to me its straight up trolling because Biden doesn't have the burden to prove anything, its Trumps burden of proof. But what the hell, let him say Biden must prove before he can be president. It makes me kind of laugh.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at November 27, 2020 05:21 PM (buTO7)

84 45 @TheSharpEdge1

"Hold it...I think we've got some BREAKING NEWS here...You're saying you're gonna get a joint resolution...to basically take the power back from the Sec of State and put it in the State Legislature to put forward the Electors?"

@SenMastriano
"That is exactly what we're gonna do"

Video at the link.

https://tinyurl.com/y3mxlaam

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:09 PM (ZLI7S)


Just watched a little while ago.

I'm very impressed with Sen Mastriano. Fearless leader.

And I agree with Bannon. If one state does this, others will have the courage to do it.

Posted by: Marybeth - TRUMP WON BIGLY! at November 27, 2020 05:22 PM (4pK1/)

85 Pressers will become civil again. None of this screaming questions at the President like they did Trump....Please Mr. President can I ask you a question. Hows your dog adapting to living in the WH.

Posted by: Colin at November 27, 2020 05:22 PM (/7pK0)

86 Ben Had

♪ ♫ Good morning! ♫ ♬

My sister is as elite as they come. Just ask her.

She does not believe in any election fraud, and thinks all the CV-19 restrictions are great public health measures.

I'm the loony for mentioning it to. her. **Le Sigh**

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 05:22 PM (u82oZ)

87 _ The "elites" say we are jealous of them. I know that's Bill Maher's response.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2020 05:15 PM (63Dwl)
-------------------------

If the elites would mind their own business I wouldn't know they existed. However they are intent on fouling my life.

Turn about's fair play.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 27, 2020 05:22 PM (CZm2G)

88 The difference between what they DO and what they SAY is part of the rush.

__________


And as somebody wise once said, the shame is part of the kink.

Posted by: ShainS at November 27, 2020 05:23 PM (uCYAx)

89
Any nuclear strike order goes through the Secretary of Defense.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 27, 2020 05:18 PM (I2/tG)

I used to work nuclear surety on active duty. There is no fooking way those troops will let her do anything. It's staffed and run predominantly with e7 and below and 04 and below.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at November 27, 2020 05:23 PM (VcFUs)

90 74 Lizzo will be the Sugar Plum Fairy.
Posted by: f'd at November 27, 2020 05:19 PM (+y8uL)

On the plus side, that should finally set off the San Andreas fault .

Posted by: josephistan at November 27, 2020 05:23 PM (Izzlo)

91 There's nothing that PO's an elite more than seeing the cleaning lady shopping for artisanal cheeses and breads at the same open air, trendy farmer's market he/she is shopping at.

Posted by: DaveD at November 27, 2020 05:24 PM (P5fqQ)

92 Meanwhile, the fanatical puritan and luddite ideologies of the elite inspire them to restrict the resources and technologies that improve middle-class life and help people become more productive, which helps them earn more money and amass more capital.

Thus we have a culture that teaches young people to reject time-tested moral codes that would help them build better lives, instead making clumsy efforts to imitate the debauchery of the elites in ways that lead them to misery and ruin.

And our young people are taught to hate their own ambitions, to hate themselves for desiring lives that have big carbon footprints, to hate and distrust everything that could bring them prosperity and narrow the gap between their lifestyles and those of the elite.

It's a fascinating dynamic to observe - the whole pulling the ladder up after you phenomenon. It's not just this setting, but in businesses and social groups too. The people who reaped the benefit of mobility got theirs and now don't want anyone else to. It's like a little kid who would rather smash his or her toy than share it.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2020 05:24 PM (nakwk)

93
Seems to me its straight up trolling because Biden doesn't have the burden to prove anything, its Trumps burden of proof.

According to who?
The Law? The courts?

Fuck the Law. Fuck the courts.

When you steal an election, the "rules" are out the window.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 27, 2020 05:24 PM (tfMsm)

94 37 For the first time, I am understanding the why of the French Revolution for the broader public.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

Caesar's wife must be above reproach

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 27, 2020 05:25 PM (nUhF0)

95 "Lt. Gov. John Fetterman told KDKA last week
that if the votes are not certified in Pennsylvania by Monday, Nov. 30,
there will be no members of the state House and half the state Senate
will not be in office as that is when their terms expire."

Huh? How does that work?

Posted by: f'd at November 27, 2020 05:25 PM (+y8uL)

96 I think back to when Pelosi tore up Trump's State of the Union Address for our country and the whole world to see. It was not like breaking plates in the kitchen, as her daughter laughingly said. It was a dare. It was a call to arms. It was a call to war. We witnessed not a slight offense to a political foe, but rather an overt charge to her faithful to do whatever it takes, by whatever means to get rid of the President. She is a monster.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 27, 2020 05:25 PM (66BnU)

97 I mean, do you know how hard it is on a person to jet all over the world to luxury resorts and discuss how to lower you plebes standard of living? Or the nights of empty, meaningless sex with supermodels and underage kids? Or trying to determine which country full of people of color needs to be bombed? It weighs on one's soul. And what thanks do we get? People call us hypocrits. They grumble about the path we have chosen for the world. They give us envious looks as we drive by in our limousines. They question our authority. They refuse to acknowledge our greatness.

The effort of having to explain this to you sub-retards has me almost spent. Tonight I will need two hookers to ease my suffering. Even though you aren't really worth all my efforts at remaking the world into a better place, you are welcome you thankless dolts.

- Your betters, the global elite.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 27, 2020 05:26 PM (iWCRg)

98 But, I ride public transport every day and walk.

And I'm the evil earth destroying conservative.
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 27, 2020 05:20 PM (U2p+3)

____

Minor quibble but I hate the term public transport. That is a Euro phrase that the left appropriated in America. We say public transporATION in 'murica damn it.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 27, 2020 05:26 PM (22mNy)

99 The "elites" say we are jealous of them. I know that's Bill Maher's response.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2020 05:15 PM (63Dwl)

I'm not a degenerate POS, so they need to try another line to get me to shuck my undies and bend over.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at November 27, 2020 05:27 PM (VcFUs)

100 Video at the link.

https://tinyurl.com/y3mxlaam

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:09 PM (ZLI7S)
----------------

He's going to tell them the law is coming like white on rice. Do you want to get this over with or do you want the law all up in you business? It's your call.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 27, 2020 05:27 PM (CZm2G)

101 OT but can someone provide the email for the prayer list? Thanks.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at November 27, 2020 05:27 PM (nxdel)

102 The thing about the elites is that Bill Maher is far, far from the worst of them. IMO, he's among the least objectionable.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 27, 2020 05:27 PM (KAi1n)

103 I used to work nuclear surety on active duty. There is no fooking way those troops will let her do anything. It's staffed and run predominantly with e7 and below and 04 and below.

You mean nuking Mar-A-Lago isn't going to be an option?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 27, 2020 05:27 PM (I2/tG)

104 He's Making a listHe's checking it twiceGonna find out who's naughty or nice

Sniper's Song 2020

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 27, 2020 05:28 PM (aG51M)

105 102 The thing about the elites is that Bill Maher is far, far from the worst of them. IMO, he's among the least objectionable.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 27, 2020 05:27 PM (KAi1n)

___

Is he even really part of the elite? Elite doesn't mean just rich. It means rich and powerful. Not sure how much power Maher has outside the Hollywood circle jerk.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 27, 2020 05:29 PM (22mNy)

106 https://tinyurl.com/yygm5gxs

KRAKEN.

"We've got pictures of the check stubs paid to people to ballot harvest."

Uh oh. It looks like
@SidneyPowell1
got the *RECEIPTS* (video)

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 05:29 PM (83bQb)

107 Wtf is with the courts saying no evidence? Rudy must be bringing something. Or does the court simply have a predetermined outcome?

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 27, 2020 05:29 PM (HCeRP)

108 And Pelosi will probably get to lay in state in the capital rotunda; hopefully dead. With lots of melted choc ice cream.

Posted by: Colin at November 27, 2020 05:30 PM (/7pK0)

109 Someone once said that WWI was caused by too much nationalism and the American civil war was caused by not enough nationalism.

Before the civil war, Americans were divided by state. Meaning each person identified by their state, i.e. they were Virginians or Texans, or even Hoosiers. Their citizenship and loyalty were to the state rather than the country.

Now, Americans are no longer divided by state loyalties. They are divided by other categories. Race, sex, orientation, political affiliation, religious beliefs, even belief in science. But also by social class. The haves vs the have nots. The elites vs the proles. The wealthy, privileged, ruling class vs. anyone who doesn't agree with them.

These divisions were created deliberately. "A house divided cannot stand". The leftist, communists, progressives did this. They did it deliberately because they want that house to fall.

More people, and not necessarily people like us political junkies, are seeing what is being done to our country. They see the media lying about one political side and hiding any information about the other. They don't trust the media. They don't believe the old standard democrats good republican bad narrative. They understand that they are being lied to and manipulated. They voted for Trump in record numbers. And even more would have if the media hadn't hidden info about Biden family depravity and corruption. These people are just as outraged as we are. They want their voices heard while the democrats cheat to silence them.

The left lit the candle. We are sitting on a powder keg and if someone kicks that candle... It will be bloody.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 27, 2020 05:30 PM (Vxu+H)

110 Throck bringing the content.

Is there a formal COB nominating process? Does he get a reserved parking spot at the HQ?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:31 PM (dNzKv)

111 Let's try again.



@KDKA



#BREAKING NEWS: Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania have introduced
a resolution intending to dispute the 2020 election results.
https://cbsloc.al/3q6Qht4

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:20 PM (ZLI7S)


This is what we need. I don't think the courts will do anything. Boris Epshteyn was on Bannon's War Room. He thinks the Wisconsin recounts will be wrapping up this weekend. There could be 100,000 to as many as 200,000 ballots to get tossed because they are fraudulent. Bannon keeps saying we just need one state to fall to open the flood gates on this.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2020 05:31 PM (H3p6x)

112 I think the FNM is the immediate foe. They aren't as effective as then there was only the big 3 TV networks but they are still too good at smothering facts that interfere with their preferred fairy tales.

Not sure what can be done about it. Maybe volunteer to be the guy on the street interview for any live coverage of something and then sneak in btw "why don't you to any investigations of where the extra 10, 20, etc percent of voters came from? that is an interesting story, how did our SoS or ??? motivate so many people to engage this year? Are you afraid you'll find shenanigans?"

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 27, 2020 05:32 PM (Aashi)

113 Wtf is with the courts saying no evidence? Rudy must be bringing something. Or does the court simply have a predetermined outcome?
Posted by: JM in Florida at November 27, 2020 05:29 PM (HCeRP)

You haven't experienced these lawless courts for yourself, have you?

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 05:32 PM (83bQb)

114 These divisions were created deliberately. "A house divided cannot stand". The leftist, communists, progressives did this. They did it deliberately because they want that house to fall.

They had to break the state loyalties, and make people loyal to the federal government in as much as the left needs people to identify with and depend on a strong federal government, but at the same time not be so nationalistic that they reject globalism.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:33 PM (dNzKv)

115 When the upper crust was tooling around with Range Rovers, there was nothing wrong with them.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 27, 2020 05:08 PM (HrMC1)

___

Good obversation.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 27, 2020 05:17 PM (22mNy)
---------------------------------

It started with Hummers, the civilian side of the HummVee. Guy in my neighborhood had one, but ended up getting rid of it. They were flashpoints, and would be vandalized because:

1)military origin,
2)gaia destroying monsters

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 27, 2020 05:33 PM (oGBso)

116 Jewells..

Prayerlist address

Annie, at


apaslo@hotmail.com

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 27, 2020 05:34 PM (3D/fK)

117 95
"Lt. Gov. John Fetterman told KDKA last week

that if the votes are not certified in Pennsylvania by Monday, Nov. 30,

there will be no members of the state House and half the state Senate

will not be in office as that is when their terms expire."

Huh? How does that work?


Posted by: f'd

This is the kind of thing I've been bleating myself senseless shouting for *two weeks*. There are ginormous practical problems with "let the state legislatures" decide and one of those problems is this. The state have already decided, and that decision was to hold a popular votes with (ostensibly) safeguards and fair procedures to ensure a legitimate vote. Some people did something so now SCOTUS has to decide what the remedy is under these circumstances.

It's not necessarily a 5-4 split. The 4 dissenters (in PA's 4-4) may have hoped that PA would do the right thing and that Biden would win easily (i.e., legitimately obtain more votes than Trump despite additional shenanigans). When it turns out they were suckered by the "polls" as much as everyone but the Horde, it may not end up being 5-4; the 4 vote concurrence basically stating that Dems and NT should try again, without cheating, in 2024.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 27, 2020 05:35 PM (KAi1n)

118 @SenMastriano

"That is exactly what we're gonna do"



Video at the link.



https://tinyurl.com/y3mxlaam





Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:09 PM (ZLI7S)

I love that Mastriano guy.

Mastriano 2024.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at November 27, 2020 05:35 PM (ufFY8)

119 I think the 3rd circuit understands that the PA case is going to SCOTUS no matter what, so just reject it on whatever grounds and get it moving.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:35 PM (dNzKv)

120
The left lit the candle. We are sitting on a powder keg and if someone kicks that candle... It will be bloody.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 27, 2020 05:30 PM (Vxu+H)


I remember where the twenty or thirty Donks live in my neihborhood. No enemies behind the lines in my book.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at November 27, 2020 05:35 PM (VcFUs)

121 102 The thing about the elites is that Bill Maher is far, far from the worst of them. IMO, he's among the least objectionable.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 27, 2020 05:27 PM (KAi1n)

Maher is a loathsome creature to put it mildly, but even so, among the cadre of the upper echelon, he's more forthright than the bulk of them when it comes to his opinions.

He might be the single one of them who seems to have some logical consistency seep into his viewpoints at times, even if I am almost diametrically opposed to the underpinning foundation, I can respect that he does not automatically sway with the wind of conventional wisdom like the rest. That is not to say that he lacks an immensely punchable face or doesn't radiate an aura of utter contempt for the average person at all times. I'd certainly not want to spend a single second in his presence. But compared to the rest of his bunch, he's at least recognizable in where he stands, and that counts for something, I think.

Posted by: Average Loser at November 27, 2020 05:36 PM (8aO2d)

122 Or does the court simply have a predetermined outcome?
Posted by: JM in Florida at November 27, 2020 05:29 PM (HCeRP)

nonsense!

Posted by: Judge Sullivan the Fair and Impartial at November 27, 2020 05:36 PM (nUhF0)

123 I would hope that even many Democrats in government would not want deranged, rageaholic Hillary Clinton in charge of nukes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2020 05:36 PM (WkPC9)

124 Bill Maher is a douche but he's an honest douche.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 27, 2020 05:37 PM (22mNy)

125 @57...Rumor is HRC wants SECDEF. Control over special forces, and some of the nukes. Great.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 27, 2020 05:15 PM (evxBY)

Not only no but HELL NO... that woman is a traitor in need of a firing squad.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 27, 2020 05:37 PM (946rW)

126 96 I think back to when Pelosi tore up Trump's State of the Union Address for our country and the whole world to see. It was not like breaking plates in the kitchen, as her daughter laughingly said. It was a dare. It was a call to arms. It was a call to war. We witnessed not a slight offense to a political foe, but rather an overt charge to her faithful to do whatever it takes, by whatever means to get rid of the President. She is a monster.
Posted by: washrivergal at November 27, 2020 05:25 PM (66BnU)


Very well stated.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 27, 2020 05:37 PM (TdMsT)

127
>>This is the kind of thing I've been bleating myself senseless shouting for *two weeks*. There are ginormous practical problems with "let the state legislatures" decide and one of those problems is this. The state have already decided, and that decision was to hold a popular votes with (ostensibly) safeguards and fair procedures to ensure a legitimate vote. Some people did something so now SCOTUS has to decide what the remedy is under these circumstances.

But the weight of evidence is piling up against Democrats. It's so severe that the legislature in PA is in open revolt.

Every single bit of evidence is useful.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:38 PM (ZLI7S)

128 Wtf is with the courts saying no evidence? Rudy must be bringing something. Or does the court simply have a predetermined outcome?
Posted by: JM in Florida at November 27, 2020 05:29 PM (HCeRP)
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The first judge wouldn't allow the evidence. This appeal judge says well, you didn't present evidence. (Because it wasn't allowed). Hopefully SCOTUS doesn't fall back on that bs

Posted by: Jimco Industries at November 27, 2020 05:39 PM (buTO7)

129 FenelonSpoke...I think your right, Hillary only might get appointed to one of those blue ribbon commissions that do nothing, and the report collects dust.

Posted by: Colin at November 27, 2020 05:39 PM (/7pK0)

130 @TheSharpEdge1



"Hold it...I think we've got some BREAKING NEWS here...You're saying
you're gonna get a joint resolution...to basically take the power back
from the Sec of State and put it in the State Legislature to put forward
the Electors?"



@SenMastriano

"That is exactly what we're gonna do"



Video at the link.



https://tinyurl.com/y3mxlaam





Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:09 PM (ZLI7S)


I'm watching that now. Bannon's War Room episode 542 on Rumble. It's same one that Boris Epshteyn said they think they'd IDed at least 100,000 fraudulent ballots in Wisconsin.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2020 05:39 PM (H3p6x)

131 The left lit the candle. We are sitting on a powder keg and if someone kicks that candle... It will be bloody.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 27, 2020 05:30 PM (Vxu+H)


I remember where the twenty or thirty Donks live in my neihborhood. No enemies behind the lines in my book.
Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at November 27, 2020 05:35 PM (VcFUs)

I'm surrounded by the enemy. I don't have enough ammo to engage.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 27, 2020 05:39 PM (oAY8z)

132 NextDoor has a PSA out for me today. Did you know you should keep 6 feet away from people to slow down Covid? Thank you ND for providing me with the valuable piece of info......that I haven't heard 1000 trillion times already.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 27, 2020 05:40 PM (22mNy)

133 Now we just need the GA, MI, WI, NV, and AZ legislatures to grow a pair.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:40 PM (dNzKv)

134 Hillary won't get SecDef. No one will want her trying to maneuver behind the scenes.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 05:40 PM (jOcSX)

135 Nobody wants the FAB anywhere near Washingtin DC. The left hates her also at this point and just wants her to disappear...the ONLY one who wants her in DC is Bill so he can parteee in Chapaqua

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2020 05:42 PM (85Gof)

136 Now we just need the GA, MI, WI, NV, and AZ legislatures to grow a pair.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:40 PM (dNzKv)


PA, MI, WI, and AZ should all agree to give their votes to Jo Jorgenson. That ensures that this mess gets thrown to the House, while allowing the legislators in those states to avoid the blame for throwing the election to either Trump or Biden.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 05:42 PM (jOcSX)

137 I think if HRC was secdef, there would be a mass exodus of troops.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:42 PM (dNzKv)

138 Fauci's Gilead medical commercial for Biktarvy.

Two bearded faggots kissing. Then Amazon's celebrate tran, fem, freak commercial.

Then Warnock -Ossoff-Warnock -Ossoff-Warnock -Ossoff-Warnock -Ossoff.
Not really liking this Pluto TV.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 27, 2020 05:42 PM (siY0G)

139 134 Hillary won't get SecDef. No one will want her trying to maneuver behind the scenes.

Biden's "proposed" Cabinet will look like a geriatric ward

Posted by: It's me donna at November 27, 2020 05:42 PM (Zmnko)

140 95 "Lt. Gov. John Fetterman told KDKA last week
that if the votes are not certified in Pennsylvania by Monday, Nov. 30, there will be no members of the state House and half the state Senate will not be in office as that is when their terms expire."

Huh? How does that work?
Posted by: f'd at November 27, 2020 05:25 PM (+y8uL)

Article II, Section 2 (PA Constitution)
Members of the General Assembly shall be chosen at the general election every second year. Their term of service shall begin on the first day of December next after their election.
Section 3: Senators shall be elected for the term of four years and Representatives for the term of two years.

Posted by: Short time frame at November 27, 2020 05:42 PM (BBWrU)

141 You haven't experienced these lawless courts for yourself, have you?

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 05:32 PM (83bQb)

I have. Judges can be f-ing asshoes.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at November 27, 2020 05:42 PM (ufFY8)

142 I can't see Kankles accepting any job in a Biden admin. After losing the big enchilada, which was after losing the primary to Obama....that's a humiliation move.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 27, 2020 05:42 PM (22mNy)

143 They are not elite.

Posted by: davidt at November 27, 2020 05:44 PM (l3+k2)

144 Article II, Section 2 (PA Constitution)
Members of the General Assembly shall be chosen at the general election every second year. Their term of service shall begin on the first day of December next after their election.
Section 3: Senators shall be elected for the term of four years and Representatives for the term of two years.
Posted by: Short time frame at November 27, 2020 05:42 PM (BBWrU)


So then whomever was elected will take over and they can vote.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 05:44 PM (jOcSX)

145 while allowing the legislators in those states to avoid the blame for throwing the election to either Trump or Biden.


The only blame goes to the election commissions who ran elections contrary to the law. It would have been easy for philly to allow the poll watchers in, and make everything look up-and-up while the watchers walked around. By excluding them and playing games, they ran an illegal election. Those votes getting thrown out is their fault, not the legislature, not Trump.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:44 PM (dNzKv)

146 Mastriano said they are looking to pass a joint resolution to go around the governor and SoS. Pretty much because they can't be trusted. He also said his twitter following went from 5,000 to 112,000 after Twatter shut down is private account down.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2020 05:44 PM (H3p6x)

147
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 27, 2020 05:45 PM (WO+ia)

148 North Carolina and Notre Dame are tied at 17 halfway through the third quarter. Neither team at this point has been declared winner-elect.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 27, 2020 05:45 PM (sWM8x)

149 I can't see Kankles accepting any job in a Biden admin.

There never will be a "Biden Adminstration".
There will be a Trump second term or there will be war.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 27, 2020 05:45 PM (siY0G)

150 142 I can't see Kankles accepting any job in a Biden admin. After losing the big enchilada, which was after losing the primary to Obama....that's a humiliation move.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 27, 2020 05:42 PM

You underestimate her shamelessness.

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 27, 2020 05:45 PM (qe5CM)

151
I'm surrounded by the enemy. I don't have enough ammo to engage.
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 27, 2020 05:39 PM (oAY8z)

You need to move to 'bama or Texas if you can.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at November 27, 2020 05:45 PM (VcFUs)

152 So then whomever was elected will take over and they can vote.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 05:44 PM (jOcSX)

Assuming the election was legit.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at November 27, 2020 05:45 PM (ufFY8)

153 "Lt. Gov. John Fetterman told KDKA last week


that if the votes are not certified in Pennsylvania by Monday, Nov. 30,


there will be no members of the state House and half the state Senate


will not be in office as that is when their terms expire."

Huh? How does that work?



-------


That is not true. The current terms of these people run until January (at the very least). If the local vote is as fraudulent as the presidential race, I am betting the courts will intervene. If they local races are not frauded up, then that part of the election can be certified separately.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (946rW)

154 85 Pressers will become civil again

Sure they will, no one will ask Sundowner anything substantial as they will be afraid of getting scrambled eggs for a answer.

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (9sWOw)

155 So then whomever was elected will take over and they can vote.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 05:44 PM (jOcSX)


They are trying to say the election certification is all or none.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (dNzKv)

156 "We've got pictures of the check stubs paid to people to ballot harvest."

Huh? Did they put Jussie Smollet in charge of the project or something?

Posted by: Untraceable means at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (BBWrU)

157 >>So then whomever was elected will take over and they can vote.

How would someone be elected if the election isn't certified?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (ZLI7S)

158 The only blame goes to the election commissions who
ran elections contrary to the law. It would have been easy for philly to
allow the poll watchers in, and make everything look up-and-up while
the watchers walked around. By excluding them and playing games, they
ran an illegal election. Those votes getting thrown out is their fault,
not the legislature, not Trump.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:44 PM (dNzKv)

THIS.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (ufFY8)

159 @83...why is it Joe B's burdn of proof? Because the AP said so?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (evxBY)

160 Those who make peaceful revolutions impossible make violent revolutions inevitable. - JFK.

The more obviously they rig the system to a "heads I win, tails you lose" game... which is becoming more apparent by the day... the more they ensure that the next revolution will not be a repeat of the American, but rather, of the French.

I will not weep to see them fed to the guillotines.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (Msrhc)

161 North Carolina and Notre Dame are tied at 17 halfway through the third quarter.
I started to watch then turned it off after seeing the "Equality" and "Black Lives Matter " jerseys.


Hope the NFL goes broke the day that these thugs are eligible for the draft.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (siY0G)

162 You underestimate her shamelessness.
Posted by: Moonbeam at November 27, 2020 05:45 PM (qe5CM)


And the greed motivating yet another year or two of that sweet sweet graft, stolen from the deplorable taxpayer scum she hates!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 27, 2020 05:47 PM (87oRe)

163 144- So then whomever was elected will take over and they can vote.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 05:44 PM

Does anyone know what percentage of the Republican incumbents won their races?

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 27, 2020 05:47 PM (qe5CM)

164 132. Apparently Coloradans have big time 'pandemic fatigue' The FNM are damn near hoarse trying to get people to go back to cowering at home. Last night its was "OMG, Oh muy gawd OMG the morgue is FULL 11!" and " 1 in every 5 people in horspital is a COVID case 11!+."

Me "yawn, hmm, wonder why the morgue is full, do they have to do an autopsy to get the Covid payout vs. a lot of death certificates used to just get written by the doc after someone died in hospital" and also "what only 1 in 5 is a COVID case? I thought to hospitals were overflowing with nothing but COVID cases"

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 27, 2020 05:47 PM (Aashi)

165 The only blame goes to the election commissions who ran elections contrary to the law. It would have been easy for philly to allow the poll watchers in, and make everything look up-and-up while the watchers walked around. By excluding them and playing games, they ran an illegal election. Those votes getting thrown out is their fault, not the legislature, not Trump.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:44 PM (dNzKv)


I know that, but you have to remember that politicians are cowards by nature. The legislators are terrified that either way they're going to get the blame. The whole point of elections was to give them an out by shifting responsibility to the electorate. "We didn't choose to give the electoral votes to Biden, it was the voters!"

Voting for Jorgenson would give them a fig leaf to hide behind.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 05:48 PM (jOcSX)

166 "Why isn't it Joe B's burden of proof", I should have writtten @159 above.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 27, 2020 05:48 PM (evxBY)

167 I will not weep to see them fed to the guillotines.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (Msrhc)


Let's be honest, there is a LOT of room on the National Mall!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 27, 2020 05:48 PM (87oRe)

168 I love that Mastriano guy.

Mastriano 2024.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at November 27, 2020 05:35 PM (ufFY

He'll be on Bannon's War Room in a little while with an update.

Posted by: Marybeth - TRUMP WON BIGLY! at November 27, 2020 05:48 PM (4pK1/)

169

You shall be like God...

Something some snake said.

Posted by: TeeJ at November 27, 2020 05:48 PM (p/F+I)

170 >>> Helprin wrote a few long-winded but readable novels.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 27, 2020 05:12 PM (HrMC1)

They're somewhat long. Not aging fantasy writer long certainly, but there is meat to them. However, they are paced well, beautifully written, and I've always been captivated through to the end.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 27, 2020 05:18 PM (l6b3d)

Hello, Mr. Helprin.
Nice we have a real name to go with the nic.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 27, 2020 05:49 PM (z79tQ)

171 "We've got pictures of the check stubs paid to people to ballot harvest."

Huh? Did they put Jussie Smollet in charge of the project or something?

Posted by: Untraceable means at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (BBWrU)
-------------------------------------------

They sell ballot harvesters at Crafty Beaver? Who knew??

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 27, 2020 05:49 PM (oGBso)

172 Quick, certify the fraudulent vote because the state government will fall apart.

Actually the US Constitution puts it on the state legislature to pick electors

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 05:49 PM (9sWOw)

173 They are trying to say the election certification is all or none.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (dNzKv)


Ah, ok.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 05:49 PM (jOcSX)

174 You haven't experienced these lawless courts for yourself, have you?
Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 05:32 PM (83bQb)

Actually I have, lawless even in a trivial thing. I brought a small claims case (kept security deposit) against a landlord, with documents signed by the landlord himself describing the pre-existing damage. Open and shut But we had to pester the judge for SIX months to render a decision in a small claims, $500 case. Finally, she said, you lose.

Students don't win cases against landlords in a college towns like Champain-Urbana.

I heard a rumor that the landlord had to replace a number windows due to BB holes.

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 27, 2020 05:49 PM (HCeRP)

175 I missed out on the previous thread and just saw Brennan's lamentations and Julie Kelly's "Sorry about your fren" tweet. Still laughing and may for a while.

Posted by: President Elect Decaf at November 27, 2020 05:49 PM (nL4fk)

176 161 North Carolina and Notre Dame are tied at 17 halfway through the third quarter.
I started to watch then turned it off after seeing the "Equality" and "Black Lives Matter " jerseys.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM

UNC is my alma mater and ND is undefeated, so I'm bearing the distaste of the whole thing. They played basketball the other day and had the word "UNITY" under their numbers on the backs of their shirts. No escape!

Posted by: Moonbeam at November 27, 2020 05:50 PM (qe5CM)

177 Thank VIA.

Posted by: Jewells45TRUMPWON! at November 27, 2020 05:50 PM (nxdel)

178 113
Wtf is with the courts saying no evidence? Rudy must be bringing
something. Or does the court simply have a predetermined outcome?

Posted by: JM in Florida

That is the best way to lose. That means SCOTUS looks at everything. The last thing you want is a judge making specific rulings on the evidence. BTW, you do not normally plead evidence in a complaint. You plead the effect of the evidence. You plead the evidence when you want to make it abundantly clear that this is not Schrodinger's Box.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 27, 2020 05:50 PM (KAi1n)

179
I will not weep to see them fed to the guillotines.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (Msrhc)

I want them to suffer.

Feet first into an industrial recycling shredder capable of eating v8 long blocks.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at November 27, 2020 05:51 PM (VcFUs)

180 "Lt. Gov. John Fetterman told KDKA last week

that if the votes are not certified in Pennsylvania by Monday, Nov.
30, there will be no members of the state House and half the state
Senate will not be in office as that is when their terms expire."



Huh? How does that work?

Posted by: f'd at November 27, 2020 05:25 PM (+y8uL)




Senator Mastriano said they can swear in the newly elected officials at the end of this session and work through December. They are going to have to some things they never expected to do but the examples of voter fraud in PA needs to be addressed.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2020 05:51 PM (H3p6x)

181 They are trying to say the election certification is all or none.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (dNzKv)



Ah, ok.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 05:49 PM (jOcSX)

They can say that... it does not make it true (as illustrated by Clark County NV trying to certify the presidential vote but not a local race where the Dem candidate was not happy with the outcome.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 27, 2020 05:51 PM (946rW)

182 I will not weep to see them fed to the guillotines.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 27, 2020 05:46 PM (Msrhc)

Let's be honest, there is a LOT of room on the National Mall!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 27, 2020 05:48 PM (87oRe)
--------------------------------

Make Knitting Great Again!

Posted by: President-Elect Madame Defarge at November 27, 2020 05:51 PM (oGBso)

183 My guess is Republicans easily held the state House so virtually every one of them will be there in February

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 05:51 PM (9sWOw)

184 172 Quick, certify the fraudulent vote because the state government will fall apart.

Actually the US Constitution puts it on the state legislature to pick electors
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 05:49 PM (9sWOw)

Exactly.

In 2016, PA didn't certify until mid Dec. Why the rush?

Posted by: Marybeth - TRUMP WON BIGLY! at November 27, 2020 05:52 PM (4pK1/)

185 Troll quality - sub whale shit.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at November 27, 2020 05:53 PM (ufFY8)

186 Privileged elites always want to assert their status by indulging in
pleasures denied to the lower classes. This often leads them into
immoral, deranged, and even criminal behavior. They're desperate to
flaunt their power by doing what lesser folk are forbidden to do.


Let me stop you right there, Buck. Let's get all these words right.

Privilege has nothing to do with being a scold. And plenty of folks love to scold. They'll scold over pronouns now, or a mask - but they'll also scold over that hat you left on while eating your own food at your own table. They'll scold over White and Labor Day. That last one is important. Making up shit ot scold about is a time honored tradition.

Asserting your dominance, via scolding, is no monopoly of the Left or the Rich. It is a stronger province of the NorthEast - and more lately the West Coast - but the SouthEast is only lacking in the trend because religion is on the down-slope. Back in the day, Religion was a means to status in Southern towns both rich and poor. Scolding crosses all class, religious, and political lines. It must - scolding is how some make themselves feel better by bitching at others without personal consequence. Kinda' like looking down their nose at anyone that doesn't wear a sport coat when going to the airport.


We are living in the Era of the Scold. It's as simple as that. As simple as the scold that can tell you to just don't be a dick and give the girl at the door your bona fides. That's got nothing to do with covid - and everything to do with Apartment Patty. Which - back in her day not very long ago at all - was another power play by the usual scolds.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 27, 2020 05:53 PM (O3do3)

187 Doc Zero is a good writer. An occasional posting on the HQ might be enjoyed by the morons.

Posted by: The Neon Madman at November 27, 2020 05:54 PM (KSXRc)

188 Hillory for Secretary of Defense?

What next, Bill gets Sec of the VA? Jimmah at HUD? Fritz Mondale for Treasury? Dukakis get's State?

Is Adlai Stevenson still around? We could give him Energy. He's a real go-getter, vim and vigor type.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2020 05:54 PM (hku12)

189 Quick, certify the fraudulent vote because the state government will fall apart.

----

The media ("President-Elect Joe Biden!"), big tech ("AP called the election for Biden; see more at Google"), and all the crooked state governments ("Enough of this talk about 600,000 fake votes; we're gonna certify!") look like a football team that just had a seriously hinky catch and are running to line up and hike the ball before the opposing coach can take the red flag out of his pocket.

Their panic is palpable.


Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2020 05:55 PM (YX2ZS)

190 He's not talking about scolding.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 27, 2020 05:55 PM (Zm+LZ)

191 Oh we have a troll what knows how to use VPN and change its hash. And yet cannot think of a single clever thing to say. Whats the term? Idiot Savant?

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 27, 2020 05:55 PM (Aashi)

192 AZ legislatures to grow a pair.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:40 PM (dNzKv)

Monday Giuliani and Ellis get to make the same presentation to a select AZ legislature committee that they did in PA (just for the major AZ vote problems we had). From there they will make the determination as to call for an immediate special session.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacam, Pac Bellum) at November 27, 2020 05:55 PM (l7Kbv)

193 I am getting a lot more discouraged about Trump's chances of overturning even one state to be honest. In real life, honesty doesn't pay and good guys don't win it appears.

Posted by: IC at November 27, 2020 05:56 PM (Nyumu)

194 Oh we have a troll what knows how to use VPN and change its hash. And yet cannot think of a single clever thing to say. Whats the term? Idiot Savant?



Shithead.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍗 at November 27, 2020 05:56 PM (ZSK0i)

195 Hillory for Secretary of Defense?

----

Don't you just love her cackle when she murders the leader of a country we're not at war with?

She's a delight.

Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2020 05:56 PM (YX2ZS)

196 66
This is why i have warmed up to the idea of a wealth tax. If we can
print a trillion dollars at will, we don't need any income tax. But we do
need a 10% annual wealth tax. 10% of any net worth over $10 million
annually. Excluding net worth of a single family farm operation or
privately owned small business with under 50 employees.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:16 PM (dNzKv)


Every man a King!



Posted by: Huey P Long at November 27, 2020 05:57 PM (aUAch)

197 Oh we have a troll what knows how to use VPN and change its hash. And yet cannot think of a single clever thing to say. Whats the term? Idiot Savant?

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable

----

No, I think that's an idiot-idiot.

Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2020 05:57 PM (YX2ZS)

198 I see Scogg Dog appears to be back, unless I am mistaken

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2020 05:57 PM (WkPC9)

199 20 years ago, the Supreme Court left open the question as to whether the courts and the county election boards could change the counting manner and deadlines set by the FL legislature.

The 9-0 manner in which they told the FL supreme court, who had said that they could, to go back and address Article II tells how they intended to rule.

PA has gone far beyond what the judges and county boards did in FL.
They completely rewrote election law. Which, 20 years ago, the supreme court noted was the sole, plenary power of the legislature.

Part one will be a 7-2 decision-- the law must be followed as written by the legislature.
Part two is where it gets 4-4, is the remedy:
1)throw out only the votes that were counted improperly, and, if unable to determine, assume they were counted properly.
Or
2) throw out all votes they cannot show were counted properly

#1 allows most illegal votes mixed with legal votes to be counted; this is the liberal solution
#2 throws out the whole batch; I don't know which of the 4 are here.

One Justice is going to decide.

Team Trump, I'm sure, has gamed this out.
#1 is the easy, lazy, do-nothing but look tough type of decision we would expect. It pretends to uphold the law but guts it in practice.
#2 is the harsh remedy that is the only possible way to prevent fraud, because it punishes those who commit the fraud now.

PS: The district court and the 3rd Circuit are playing a cute game with the Supreme Court. They're trying to get the case tossed under discretionary review standard, saying the evidence is insufficient to show fraud. A discretion decision much harder to overcome on appeal.
But the 3rd might have gone to far in their zeal, by tossing in that Trump had not only no evidence, he also failed to make a claim, well, that's a matter of law, and a de novo review.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 27, 2020 05:58 PM (aO8Gd)

200 193 I am getting a lot more discouraged about Trump's chances of overturning even one state to be honest. In real life, honesty doesn't pay and good guys don't win it appears.
Posted by: IC at November 27, 2020 05:56 PM (Nyumu)

Of course you are. It's hard to hang in there.

Might it be a good idea for you to withdraw completely from the news until it's all over?

Posted by: Marybeth - TRUMP WON BIGLY! at November 27, 2020 05:58 PM (4pK1/)

201 Hillory for Secretary of Defense?

----

Don't you just love her cackle when she murders the leader of a country we're not at war with?

She's a delight.
Posted by: RKae at November 27, 2020 05:56 PM (YX2ZS)


Sadly, with all the brain trust Team Bobamabiden is willing to bring out, there's still no room for Algore.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2020 05:59 PM (hku12)

202 Apparently the 3rd circuit judge who wrote the opinion was a Trump appointee.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:59 PM (dNzKv)

203 This treats as a general rule, things that are contingent to our time. If you look at the elites who ran America from JFK to GHWB, you find something rather different. I am not enamored of their competence, but it cannot be denied that they

(a) Actually believed they had a duty to serve, especially in the military. This has been standard, going back a long time. And is now dead.

(b) Knew enough to avoid conspicuous consumption. They clearly knew better than to rub their position in others' faces.

The Boomers killed that. But it's not the historic norm.

Again, I don't think much of the country's rulers from 1960 on, with a few exceptions. But the generalized rules cited above pretty much miss the mark.

There is one thing common, though. That is the belief in their intellectual superiority, and dates rather further back. It's a Prog thing, and was always unjustified.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 27, 2020 05:59 PM (7X3UV)

204 I am getting a lot more discouraged about Trump's chances of overturning
even one state to be honest. In real life, honesty doesn't pay and good
guys don't win it appears.
Posted by: IC at November 27, 2020 05:56 PM (Nyumu)










"If we lived in a State where virtue was profitable, common sense
would make us good, and greed would make us saintly. And we'd live like
animals or angels in the happy land that /needs/ no heroes. But since in
fact we see that avarice, anger, envy, pride, sloth, lust and stupidity
commonly profit far beyond humility, chastity, fortitude, justice and
thought, and have to choose, to be human at all... why then perhaps we
/must/ stand fast a little --even at the risk of being heroes."


-- A Man for All Seasons

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2020 05:59 PM (H3p6x)

205 >>Monday Giuliani and Ellis get to make the same presentation to a select AZ legislature committee that they did in PA (just for the major AZ vote problems we had). From there they will make the determination as to call for an immediate special session.

And they are bringing along this guy.

https://tinyurl.com/yy4roydz

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:59 PM (ZLI7S)

206 Idiot Savant?

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 27, 2020 05:55 PM (Aashi)


Most definitely not. "Savant" implies a level of knowledge/understanding about some arcane specific topic.

In this case "Idiot Vegetable" is a better fit!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 27, 2020 06:00 PM (87oRe)

207 Whats the term? Idiot Savant?





Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 27, 2020 05:55 PM (Aashi)

No, just idiot.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at November 27, 2020 06:00 PM (ufFY8)

208 Apparently the 3rd circuit judge who wrote the opinion was a Trump appointee.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:59 PM (dNzKv)

I "Thought" I heard they all were

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2020 06:00 PM (85Gof)

209 Speaking of privilege, I'm not doing any black Friday sales BS. 40% off??? BOGO???
PPpfftt.
I'm waiting for the next riot where the deals are even better. Free!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 27, 2020 06:00 PM (axyOa)

210 I must try to reverse my near food coma with some outside air. So posting and running but not with any troll intent. Catch you later Horde.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 27, 2020 06:01 PM (Aashi)

211 Flaming Skull?

https://tinyurl.com/y3xefls7

FYI Wisconsin Update

Notice MSM blackout re WI?

-Trump team challenging every questionable ballot.
-Number of ballots which allegedly don't meet state standards = 200k.
-Third party teams scouring net and gathering IDs of persons who broke law.
-WI deadline for cert 12/1.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 06:01 PM (83bQb)

212 - A Man for All Seasons
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2020 05:59 PM (H3p6x)

Great play and fine movie with Paul Scofield.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2020 06:02 PM (WkPC9)

213

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 06:01 PM (83bQb)

Tweet listed as not available.
Twitter Bolsheviks working overtime, I see

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 27, 2020 06:02 PM (j7uQs)

214 He's not talking about scolding.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 27, 2020 05:55 PM (Zm+LZ)


Of course he is - from the other side of the table. That's the point. The "elite class" is scolding. They're discussing a set of values that they believe are "right". They have no interest in seeing those beliefs succeed or fail in the marketplace of ideas. They've simply said "this is how it must be" - without any real world test.

The exact same as those people that loved to scold about "take your cap off" at the dinner table. The guy that made your meal wore a paper hat. That cap keeps hair off the table. Yet - more often than not - some moral busybody always wanted to say "take your hat off" - even from the other side of the restaurant.

What Buck describes is EXACTLY the Pavlovian response of the busy-body. And that personality type crosses all political, gender, and economic boundaries. Scolds occupy all classes.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 27, 2020 06:02 PM (O3do3)

215 #2 is the harsh remedy that is the only possible way to prevent fraud, because it punishes those who commit the fraud now.



Yes, and when all of the Philly, Chester, and Shitsburg votes are tossed, the blame lies solely on the election commissioners who couldn't be bothered to even fake a legitimate count.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 06:02 PM (dNzKv)

216 Huh... it's working now
Nevermind me o.O I don't know what was going on

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 27, 2020 06:03 PM (j7uQs)

217 (a) Actually believed they had a duty to serve, especially in the military. This has been standard, going back a long time. And is now dead.

(b) Knew enough to avoid conspicuous consumption. They clearly knew better than to rub their position in others' faces.

The Boomers killed that. But it's not the historic norm.

Again, I don't think much of the country's rulers from 1960 on, with a few exceptions. But the generalized rules cited above pretty much miss the mark.

There is one thing common, though. That is the belief in their intellectual superiority, and dates rather further back. It's a Prog thing, and was always unjustified.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 27, 2020 05:59 PM (7X3UV)


There was an article about this recently which argued that the rise of the "meritocracy" killed it, because the people who were successful assumed that they were morally superior because they had obviously risen by their own hard work. A lot of the old traditions of elite behavior were based on the idea that you were often the beneficiary of good fortune beyond your control, and that your position was precarious, and so it was best not to flaunt one's wealth and status openly.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 06:03 PM (jOcSX)

218 I "Thought" I heard they all were


no. 2x W appointees.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 06:03 PM (dNzKv)

219 Multiple Video confirmation in Milwaukee WI!

https://tinyurl.com/y2p25fv8

@TMJ4Stephanie
More and more boxes of ballots to the courthouse. Workers say five more elevator rides.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 06:03 PM (83bQb)

220 Why the rush?
Posted by: Marybeth - TRUMP WON BIGLY! at November 27, 2020 05:52 PM

The Lt Governor is another Leftist thats why

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 06:04 PM (9sWOw)

221 People need to swing for this.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2020 06:04 PM (aqmAd)

222 213

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 06:01 PM (83bQb)

Tweet listed as not available.
Twitter Bolsheviks working overtime, I see
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 27, 2020 06:02 PM (j7uQs)

Worked for me again...

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 06:04 PM (83bQb)

223 I "Thought" I heard they all were


no. 2x W appointees.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 06:03 PM (dNzKv)

So one PDT appointee and 2 bush family failures?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2020 06:05 PM (85Gof)

224 Notice MSM blackout re WI?

-Trump team challenging every questionable ballot.
-Number of ballots which allegedly don't meet state standards = 200k.
-Third party teams scouring net and gathering IDs of persons who broke law.
-WI deadline for cert 12/1.
Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 06:01 PM (83bQb)


Stephanie Haines has been posting video after video of them wheeling carts of ballots into a holding area.

Trump is going to flip WI.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 27, 2020 06:05 PM (8B6Ng)

225 .

Actually the US Constitution puts it on the state legislature to pick electors
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 05:49 PM (9sWOw)
------------------

Yes, let's do this quick. Keep the investigators away.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 27, 2020 06:05 PM (CZm2G)

226
Flaming Skull?



https://tinyurl.com/y3xefls7



FYI Wisconsin Update



Notice MSM blackout re WI?



-Trump team challenging every questionable ballot.

-Number of ballots which allegedly don't meet state standards = 200k.

-Third party teams scouring net and gathering IDs of persons who broke law.

-WI deadline for cert 12/1.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 06:01 PM (83bQb)



Boris Epshteyn was talking about this on Bannon's show today. Hopefully things start to break Trump's way. He/we need a big win to overcome the cheating commie bastards.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2020 06:05 PM (H3p6x)

227 And they are bringing along this guy.
https://tinyurl.com/yy4roydz
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:59 PM (ZLI7S)
~~~~~

He's brilliant. And I read that he cancelled his vacation for this.

By the way, did you happen to see Kristi Noem's tweet announcing that she will soon be a grandmother?

Posted by: IrishEi at November 27, 2020 06:06 PM (sGotD)

228 Whoops! See a post about Steph's videos further up.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 27, 2020 06:06 PM (8B6Ng)

229 Heard on radio this morning Kathy Barnette's team is looking into votes in MontCo, 119 dead people voted, Norristown had more new registered voters than past voters voting.

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 06:06 PM (9sWOw)

230 Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 06:01 PM (83bQb)

Tweet listed as not available.
Twitter Bolsheviks working overtime, I see


Posted by: Kinley Ardal at November 27, 2020 06:02 PM (j7uQs)


It was there. Try refreshing the page.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2020 06:06 PM (H3p6x)

231 214 He's not talking about scolding.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 27, 2020 05:55 PM (Zm+LZ)

Of course he is - from the other side of the table. That's the point. The "elite class" is scolding. They're discussing a set of values that they believe are "right". They have no interest in seeing those beliefs succeed or fail in the marketplace of ideas. They've simply said "this is how it must be" - without any real world test.

The exact same as those people that loved to scold about "take your cap off" at the dinner table. The guy that made your meal wore a paper hat. That cap keeps hair off the table. Yet - more often than not - some moral busybody always wanted to say "take your hat off" - even from the other side of the restaurant.

What Buck describes is EXACTLY the Pavlovian response of the busy-body. And that personality type crosses all political, gender, and economic boundaries. Scolds occupy all classes.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 27, 2020 06:02 PM (O3do3)

Pedophilia and scolding are two different ills. He's not talking about Bloomberg nanny-statism.

1. A variety of vices are pursued by the elite precisely because they're not available to non-elites. In our society this is some pretty dark stuff.
2. Wealth is experienced in relative, not absolute terms(this is noted in economics), so they want everyone else to be poorer to be feel better about themselves.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 27, 2020 06:06 PM (Zm+LZ)

232 By the way, did you happen to see Kristi Noem's tweet announcing that she will soon be a grandmother?
Posted by: IrishEi at November 27, 2020 06:06 PM (sGotD)


GILF.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2020 06:06 PM (aqmAd)

233 By the way, did you happen to see Kristi Noem's tweet announcing that she will soon be a grandmother?
Posted by: IrishEi at November 27, 2020 06:06 PM (sGotD)


GILFy.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 06:06 PM (jOcSX)

234
Trump is going to flip WI.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 27, 2020 06:05 PM (8B6Ng)

Dominos.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 06:07 PM (83bQb)

235 >>> Helprin wrote a few long-winded but readable novels.
Posted by: JoeF. at November 27, 2020 05:12 PM (HrMC1)
---

I read Winter, Soldier, and Antproof when I was young and dumb. The fact that most everything these days is shitty made his books look less bad than they are. I regret that I didn't rather spend the time rereading something deservedly classic. But then I might have remained susceptible to the carnie hype of publishers and friend-reviewers claiming, as they always do, that whatever they happen to have on hand to sell at any given moment is "great."

Posted by: Lincoln at November 27, 2020 06:07 PM (eAoQR)

236 According to who?
The Law? The courts?

Fuck the Law. Fuck the courts.

When you steal an election, the "rules" are out the window.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 27, 2020 05:24 PM

Indeed. Similar to rules of engagement when one side does not abide by the Geneva convention. You don't get to ignore the law, the social contract itself, and then use the same contract to hobble your enemies.

"That's just retarded, sir." -- R. Jeantal

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 27, 2020 06:07 PM (OssQ4)

237 To Our President, Donald J. Trump; to Ace, the cob-loggers and the Moron Horde, long life, good health, prosperity, and VICTORY !
Confusion to our enemies !

*tosses back shot*
*chases with long swog of ice-cold beer*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 TRUMP WON! at November 27, 2020 06:07 PM (/On2j)

238 Horde mind is great

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2020 06:07 PM (aqmAd)

239 Looking forward to auntie tifa falling in blizzard riots.

Posted by: DaveA at November 27, 2020 06:08 PM (FhXTo)

240 Willowed:
383 Hosses in panorama city! Just saw two lapd on horseback clip clopping thru the 60s strip mall parking lot. Gave em a hearty "good to see ya!" and a nice how'dya do in return! Never seen em outside of parades years ago. Some result of "defunding"???

Posted by: Banned at November 27, 2020 06:08 PM (qu92F)

241 The woke-scolds are mostly shock troops, they're nobody important.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 27, 2020 06:08 PM (Zm+LZ)

242 And they are bringing along this guy.

https://tinyurl.com/yy4roydz
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 05:59 PM (ZLI7S)

That's what they need to do. Bring the people that can point to the exact data point and say "See this? There is no freaking way this is a non-fraud event. No chance at all its an accident. Someone cheated RIGHT HERE!"

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacam, Pac Bellum) at November 27, 2020 06:08 PM (l7Kbv)

243
It was there. Try refreshing the page.

-

It's funny how sports, entertainment, and Democrats don't require refreshing to see the posts.

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 27, 2020 06:08 PM (/i8CN)

244 Apparently the 3rd circuit judge who wrote the opinion was a Trump appointee.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 27, 2020 05:59 PM (dNzKv)

If he is or if he isn't a Trump appointee, he sucks at both the law and not being a deep state slime.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 27, 2020 06:08 PM (946rW)

245 ahem

Posted by: Gilded at November 27, 2020 06:08 PM (eAoQR)

246 >>By the way, did you happen to see Kristi Noem's tweet announcing that she will soon be a grandmother?

I should call and congratulate her.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 06:08 PM (ZLI7S)

247 At some stage, the courts are going to be deferential to any state's mechanisms designed to cure illegal voting or "problems" and so far we're seeing this. The Trump team's efforts to suggest that they have exhausted those means or that they are unable or willing participants (ie the SOS's and election officials violated state laws) has fallen on deaf ears. As everyone predicted they would - courts hate to make rulings that other political bodies are built supposedly to make.

The SCOTUS is configured, at least currently, to think differently and seem to be pre-disposed to be favorable toward the argument that there has been the disenfranchisement or severe violation of Equal Protection and that these states have made that possible - it's a hope, I have. The cure they suggest is really a different matter and I can only hope it means returning the elector selection to the legislature of these states entirely...

Posted by: Boswell at November 27, 2020 06:09 PM (w2LAm)

248 I think I know what I want for Christmas. Just have to wait and see if I get it.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2020 06:09 PM (nakwk)

249 We kill God so we can be gods.

Posted by: iandeal at November 27, 2020 06:09 PM (vgGyZ)

250 Ok weird. I am getting 403 Forbidden on the classicfirearms site all of a sudden.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 27, 2020 04:58 PM


Soon it won't just be you!

Bwahahahahahahah!

Posted by: Beto! at November 27, 2020 06:09 PM (DMUuz)

251
Trump is going to flip WI.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 27, 2020 06:05 PM (8B6Ng)

Be pretty funny (as in funny like a clown way) if BIDEN challenges these brand new WI votes.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at November 27, 2020 06:10 PM (ufFY8)

252 248 I think I know what I want for Christmas. Just have to wait and see if I get it.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2020 06:09 PM (nakwk)

They're all out of PlayStation 5's...

Will a box of raisins do?

Posted by: browndog at November 27, 2020 06:11 PM (BgMrQ)

253 Be pretty funny (as in funny like a clown way) if BIDEN challenges these brand new WI votes.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at November 27, 2020 06:10 PM (ufFY


I like pie!

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 27, 2020 06:11 PM (aqmAd)

254 Attn Cat Ass: Re post 110:

Thanks, but sometimes it's nice to just be a utility infielder rather than the star second baseman. Less pressure but you still get to play the game.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at November 27, 2020 06:11 PM (d9Cw3)

255
They're all out of PlayStation 5's...

Will a box of raisins do?
Posted by: browndog at November 27, 2020 06:11 PM (BgMrQ)

Nein.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2020 06:11 PM (nakwk)

256 221
People need to swing for this.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2020 06:04 PM (aqmAd)

++++
They really do. Harsh and hard sentences, including breaking people financially. But I would most definitely call for the rope. This has gone on far too long, with people holding offices that we haven't a clue if they were gotten by legitimately.

Posted by: washrivergal at November 27, 2020 06:11 PM (66BnU)

257 The only blame goes to the election commissions who
ran elections contrary to the law. It would have been easy for philly to allow the poll watchers in, and make everything look up-and-up while the watchers walked around. By excluding them and playing games, theyran an illegal election. Those votes getting thrown out is their fault, not the legislature, not Trump.
---
If the residents of these precincts want their vote to count, they have--and had-- the opportunity to vote them out before the next election.

And Trump will--as he has-- point out that a few years ago, the courts threw out the Philly Democrat who was elected and installed the republican because of fraud--and the residents failed to take the lesson and clean out those who allowed the fraud.

Their continued, systemic and habitual fraud should not be rewarded this time either.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 27, 2020 06:11 PM (aO8Gd)

258 I'm surrounded by the enemy. I don't have enough ammo to engage.
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 27, 2020 05:39 PM


Two words: Arc Light

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 27, 2020 06:12 PM (DMUuz)

259 Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2020 06:09 PM (nakwk)

They're all out of PlayStation 5's...

Will a box of raisins do?
Posted by: browndog at November 27, 2020 06:11 PM (BgMrQ)

I crack myself up...YES.I.DO.

And I'm not even drinking tonight1

Posted by: browndog at November 27, 2020 06:12 PM (BgMrQ)

260 Helprin wrote a few

Slogging thru Soldier and realize had read years ago. Oh well, libraries closed till next week. Rosenberg's Last Jihad wernt bad, by Dead Heat disolved into prostelyzing diatribe.

Still jazzed to have seen l a cops on horses in the hood!!

Posted by: Banned at November 27, 2020 06:12 PM (qu92F)

261 220 Why the rush?
Posted by: Marybeth - TRUMP WON BIGLY! at November 27, 2020 05:52 PM

The Lt Governor is another Leftist thats why
Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 06:04 PM (9sWOw)

Sorry, Skip, I should have marked that as rhetorical or sarcastic.

Posted by: Marybeth - TRUMP WON BIGLY! at November 27, 2020 06:12 PM (4pK1/)

262
I think if HRC was secdef, there would be a mass exodus of troops.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy


Just like the mass exodus of FBI agents we had a while back.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2020 06:12 PM (63Dwl)

263 >>> I should call and congratulate her.
~~~~~

At the least. I'm sure she is waiting to hear from you.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 27, 2020 06:13 PM (sGotD)

264 Question that I haven't seen addressed: As the Trump legal team, or Sidney, are not the federal government, if there is huge evidence in the hands of Trump the president (vs Trump the legal client), is there a way that information can be used and/or introduced?

Posted by: Fanoogeee at November 27, 2020 06:13 PM (ectFj)

265 Just like the mass exodus of FBI agents we had a while back.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2020 06:12 PM (63Dwl)

#anythingforapaycheck

Posted by: browndog at November 27, 2020 06:13 PM (BgMrQ)

266 Pedophilia and scolding are two different ills. He's not talking about Bloomberg nanny-statism.



1. A variety of vices are pursued by the elite precisely because
they're not available to non-elites. In our society this is some pretty
dark stuff.

2. Wealth is experienced in relative, not absolute terms(this is
noted in economics), so they want everyone else to be poorer to be feel
better about themselves.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 27, 2020 06:06 PM (Zm+LZ)


Look - I'm not against you here, when it comes to the Big P. That's a red line. Enough said. We are in lock step. OpSec.


What I am saying is that the notion of "you may or may not do this or that" is not a judgement restricted to the Ruling Class. EVERY CLASS does this - when they have the power to do so. Because every social class enjoys exercising their power to enforce traditions and customs that are - often - not only subjective and arbitrary but also counter-productive.

Now - listen - that's all the Left is doing. Enforcing a set of standards - because that's what every dominant social group does. Their set just happens to be evil and capricious. I think - Hell, I know - that it's important to understand the distinction between what they do and why. What they are doing is no different than any other dominant social movement.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (O3do3)

267 262
I think if HRC was secdef, there would be a mass exodus of troops.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Just like the mass exodus of FBI agents we had a while back.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 27, 2020 06:12 PM (63Dwl)

Ouch.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (nakwk)

268 Bertram Cabot, Jr.

I left the Service whenClinton was elected.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (u82oZ)

269 Keep hoping turn 1 state and it might start a trend.
Really thought in Pennsylvania Trump havjng a 700,000 vpte lead the fraud to surpass that has to be easily found.

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (9sWOw)

270 I think if HRC was secdef, there would be a mass exodus of troops.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy


Well she will not be, but most people will not leave the Military. the pay is OK, the benefits are great, and if you can do 20, your in great shape.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (85Gof)

271 Fetterman is fat fuck sack of shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (aqmAd)

272 I think I know what I want for Christmas. Just have to wait and see if I get it.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2020 06:09 PM (nakwk)



Tourist visa backlog ?

Posted by: runner at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (zr5Kq)

273 >>At the least. I'm sure she is waiting to hear from you.

Particularly since I missed our weekly call last week.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (ZLI7S)

274 I left the Service whenClinton was elected.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (u82oZ)

Did you have 20 in the bag?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (85Gof)

275
Tourist visa backlog ?
Posted by: runner at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (zr5Kq)

Why would I want a tourist visa backlog for Christmas?

Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2020 06:15 PM (nakwk)

276 Insomniac

A trip to Greenland, and not visiting the prisons and dungeons?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:15 PM (u82oZ)

277 Question that I haven't seen addressed: As the Trump legal team, or Sidney, are not the federal government, if there is huge evidence in the hands of Trump the president (vs Trump the legal client), is there a way that information can be used and/or introduced?

Posted by: Fanoogeee at November 27, 2020 06:13 PM (ectFj)
----------------------------

That would be Durham's department, but he's really really busy right now.

Posted by: President-Elect Madame Defarge at November 27, 2020 06:15 PM (oGBso)

278 273
>>At the least. I'm sure she is waiting to hear from you.



Particularly since I missed our weekly call last week.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (ZLI7S)

Make up for it by inviting her to a candlelight dinner.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at November 27, 2020 06:15 PM (ufFY8)

279 Oops

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 27, 2020 06:16 PM (oGBso)

280 Marybeth I should have know better, but for the benift of those who didn't know hopefully turned out.

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 06:16 PM (9sWOw)

281 Nevergiveup

My year group was slaughtered when the Soviets folded. Not in the cards.

Unless I was posthumously promoted for falling on a grenade meant for someone very important.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:17 PM (u82oZ)

282
I'm surrounded by the enemy. I don't have enough ammo to engage.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 27, 2020 05:39 PM


Almighty Almighty this is PBR streetgang...

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 27, 2020 06:18 PM (WO+ia)

283 Trebek's final Jeopardy (see what I did there?) episode airs on Christmas Day, FYI.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 27, 2020 06:18 PM (OssQ4)

284 And they are bringing along this guy.



https://tinyurl.com/yy4roydz


It's encouraging to see so many behind the scenes working to prove the fraud is so widespread. No chance this is going away.

Posted by: dartist at November 27, 2020 06:18 PM (+ya+t)

285 Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:17 PM (u82oZ)

How many years did you have in?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2020 06:18 PM (85Gof)

286 A trip to Greenland, and not visiting the prisons and dungeons?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:15 PM (u82oZ)

Heh.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2020 06:18 PM (nakwk)

287 Still laughing about "Sorry about your fren"

Posted by: Gilded at November 27, 2020 06:18 PM (eAoQR)

288 Lin Wood has presented a case in his Georgia law suit that is going to be very hard to refute. I think the courts have no recourse but to call for the legislature to appoint the electors.
Either that, or they rule he has no standing to file the suit, But I think the judge has already stated he does have standing.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 27, 2020 06:18 PM (aG51M)

289 Nevergiveup

Eleven. I was one of the very few that got a nice by-out package, since I was USN.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:19 PM (u82oZ)

290 283 I'll pass on that.

Posted by: Skip at November 27, 2020 06:20 PM (9sWOw)

291 Buyout. Sheesh.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:20 PM (u82oZ)

292 By the way, did you happen to see Kristi Noem's tweet announcing that she will soon be a grandmother?
----------
I should call and congratulate her.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 27, 2020 06:08 PM (ZLI7S)


I'll tell her for you.

Anything else you want me to pass on to her when I see her later?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 27, 2020 06:20 PM (hku12)

293 Eleven. I was one of the very few that got a nice by-out package, since I was USN.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:19 PM (u82oZ)

Got it. Hard to believe I will have 15 when I am done.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2020 06:20 PM (85Gof)

294
I see grammie winger is hardly (or not at all) around these days.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 27, 2020 06:20 PM (tfMsm)

295 Bryon's Noem-Kristi's husband looks like a fit and tall guy. Perhaps you should admire his wife from afar and not call to invite her to a candelight dinner.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2020 06:20 PM (WkPC9)

296 My year group was slaughtered when the Soviets folded. Not in the cards.

Unless I was posthumously promoted for falling on a grenade meant for someone very important.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:17 PM (u82oZ)


I got out in 2012 at six years because I had heard horror stories from older officers about the 90s RIFs, and saw the writing on the wall with Obama. Managed to get out about a year ahead of many of my former classmates, and watched a lot of them struggle to find jobs.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 06:20 PM (jOcSX)

297
Fetterman is fat fuck sack of shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (aqmAd)

I'm nominating that for the Chavez award. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 27, 2020 06:21 PM (9Om/r)

298 Look - I'm not against you here, when it comes to the Big P. That's a red line. Enough said. We are in lock step. OpSec.


What I am saying is that the notion of "you may or may not do this or that" is not a judgement restricted to the Ruling Class. EVERY CLASS does this - when they have the power to do so. Because every social class enjoys exercising their power to enforce traditions and customs that are - often - not only subjective and arbitrary but also counter-productive.

Now - listen - that's all the Left is doing. Enforcing a set of standards - because that's what every dominant social group does. Their set just happens to be evil and capricious. I think - Hell, I know - that it's important to understand the distinction between what they do and why. What they are doing is no different than any other dominant social movement.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (O3do3)

You're confusing social enforcement which exists in all times and all places with a different set of issues being addressed here. A commissar isn't the same as a bigwig at the politburo.

Some attempts to establish class barriers are also noted in the essay, but that differs from the decadence. Elites are not always this decadent, it's something that increases over time until a country collapses or the elites are purged. The Bidens and Clintons are good examples. The woke-scolds and social crusaders are useful minions but primarily the leadership doesn't give a damn about that.

To use an American example, the Prohibitionists are not the same as Wilson and FDR, they're merely shock troops.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 27, 2020 06:21 PM (Zm+LZ)

299 Thanks, Jill!

https://tinyurl.com/y6h248yz

On October 30, 2020 2016 Green Party Candidate Jill Stein FINALLY won her groundbreaking case that gave her campaign the right to examine voting machine source code in Wisconsin.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 27, 2020 06:21 PM (83bQb)

300 Holy crap I love the idea of a weekly Chavez award, same as the sock puppets and most comments awards.

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 27, 2020 06:22 PM (/i8CN)

301 Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 27, 2020 06:20 PM (tfMsm)

She's trying to cope as best she can with a mood disorder and I think, feels the board is not a good place to be for her right now.

Pray for her healing if you are a person of prayer

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2020 06:22 PM (WkPC9)

302 300
Holy crap I love the idea of a weekly Chavez award, same as the sock puppets and most comments awards.

Seconded!

Posted by: dartist at November 27, 2020 06:23 PM (+ya+t)

303 I think I know what I want for Christmas. Just have to wait and see if I get it.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 27, 2020 06:09 PM (nakwk)


Does it have to do with tire irons and commie skulls?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2020 06:23 PM (H3p6x)

304 PPP


Profanity
Poet
Prize

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2020 06:24 PM (aqmAd)

305 Does it have to do with tire irons and commie skulls?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 27, 2020 06:23 PM (H3p6x)



Ukrainian "brides".

Posted by: runner at November 27, 2020 06:24 PM (zr5Kq)

306 So today I read an interesting report (posted earlier) from Johns Hopkins that pretty much confirmed what I have suspected all along; if someone dies WITH covid their death is being attributed TO covid.

Shame they didn't have the testicular fortitude to keep it up.

Evening roonz and roonettez, I hope everyone is having a great holiday weekend. It's just Mrs Hades and I at the Refuge since our travel plans got cancelled, but it's been good just staying at home and relaxing.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at November 27, 2020 06:24 PM (CcOog)

307 I need some strong ass black tea.

You ever have to explain the importance of a strike plate?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 27, 2020 06:25 PM (MY1UP)

308 God tossed a puppy at us today. A mom dog has been coming around the VFW and getting in the trash cans and knocking them over. Watched the video and saw her getting in the trash at night.


Went to talk to the owner and presto! the dog had 8 puppies and was roaming the neighborhood looking for food. One of them picked me out when we went over there and made us take her home.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 27, 2020 06:25 PM (JUOKG)

309 I think I saw grammie winger around in the last week or so, certainly since the election because the subject of how could Wisconsin possibly vote for SloJoe came up regarding the Kenosha riots.

No way. Milwaukee must have called in reinforcements in fraud from south of the cheddar border in Chi-town

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 27, 2020 06:25 PM (oGBso)

310 Nevergiveup & Colorado Alex in Exile

The 90's RIFs were brutal. Saw my friends flensed. I dodged all that. That buyout package with the annuity kept me going for years, & allowed me to do some cool stuff after that.

IF Biden does get in, maybe 15 years can be a pension eligible event, like it was during the 90's.
So there is hope even in decay, Captain.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:26 PM (u82oZ)

311 Here's an interesting take on the filing from Powell in GA from a former democrat OR state election official.

https://tinyurl.com/yy9lnl76

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 27, 2020 06:26 PM (8B6Ng)

312 A column co-authored by former U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis which called for an end to President Trumps America First foreign policy did not include a disclosure regarding the retired four-star generals work with the Cohen Group, an international business advisory firm active in China.

Scumbag probably sold out on the cheap also. Idiot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2020 06:26 PM (85Gof)

313 295
Bryon's Noem-Kristi's husband looks like a fit and tall guy. Perhaps you
should admire his wife from afar and not call to invite her to a
candelight dinner.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2020 06:20 PM (WkPC9)

I think you need to distract him, Fen.
Do it for JackStraw.

Posted by: President-Elect anchorbabe fashion cop at November 27, 2020 06:26 PM (ufFY8)

314 Number of guys took early out when I was in.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2020 06:27 PM (aqmAd)

315 God tossed a puppy at us today. A mom dog has been coming around the VFW and getting in the trash cans and knocking them over. Watched the video and saw her getting in the trash at night.


Went to talk to the owner and presto! the dog had 8 puppies and was roaming the neighborhood looking for food. One of them picked me out when we went over there and made us take her home.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 27, 2020 06:25 PM (JUOKG)


Congrats on the new family member!

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 27, 2020 06:27 PM (8B6Ng)

316 So today I read an interesting report (posted earlier) from Johns Hopkins that pretty much confirmed what I have suspected all along; if someone dies WITH covid their death is being attributed TO covid.

-

Yep. Some actual science happened for about twelve hours before the censors saw it.

The archive link is on this morning's JJ thread for anyone who hadn't seen it. Scroll down through the comments or ctl+f "Hopkins"

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 27, 2020 06:27 PM (/i8CN)

317 If Biden does get in, I expect that we'll end up in a war somewhere and they won't let anyone go.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 06:27 PM (jOcSX)

318 Went to talk to the owner and presto! the dog had 8 puppies and was roaming the neighborhood looking for food. One of them picked me out when we went over there and made us take her home.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 27, 2020 06:25 PM (JUOKG)

Good for you!

Jealous...

Posted by: browndog at November 27, 2020 06:28 PM (BgMrQ)

319 I left the Service whenClinton was elected.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:14 PM (u82oZ)

Yep, me too, just before Mogadishu.

Posted by: clutch at November 27, 2020 06:28 PM (9UmRs)

320 Posted by: President-Elect anchorbabe fashion cop at November 27, 2020 06:26 PM (ufFY

LOL; Sorry; I look nothing like Kristi Noem. Unless we discussed Rhode Island history, I'm not sure how I could distract him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2020 06:29 PM (WkPC9)

321 IF Biden does get in, maybe 15 years can be a pension eligible event, like it was during the 90's.
So there is hope even in decay, Captain.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:26 PM (u82oZ)

Yeah doubt I'd qualify since I will age out in 2 years. But I knew what I was getting into when I signed up. My intention is to get a GS yob after that. Where I am sitting now, I am well postioned for that. Anyway we will see. Right now I am enjoying living on the GOV Tit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2020 06:29 PM (85Gof)

322 A column co-authored by former U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis which called for an end to President Trumps America First foreign policy did not include a disclosure regarding the retired four-star generals work with the Cohen Group, an international business advisory firm active in China.
-------------------------------

I saw somewhere that the Cohen Group has 4 locations outside of the US, 2 of them are in Chy-na.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 27, 2020 06:30 PM (oGBso)

323 NOOD

Posted by: runner at November 27, 2020 06:30 PM (zr5Kq)

324 Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 27, 2020 06:25 PM (JUOKG)

That's nice! Congrats!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2020 06:30 PM (WkPC9)

325 United States politics Trending
#BidenCheated

Posted by: Looks like we broke their censor algorithm at November 27, 2020 06:31 PM (BBWrU)

326 FenelonSpoke

You have a heart of gold, and minister to us rapscallions. That counts for a lot. But you have your own devoted spouse, and integrity.

Jack Straw, go with plan B.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:31 PM (u82oZ)

327 317
If Biden does get in, I expect that we'll end up in a war somewhere and they won't let anyone go.

Or the draft comes back.

Posted by: dartist at November 27, 2020 06:31 PM (+ya+t)

328 Nevergiveup

Waivers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:32 PM (u82oZ)

329 Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:31 PM (u82oZ)

Thanks. Yes; I am very blessed with FenelonSpouse.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 27, 2020 06:33 PM (WkPC9)

330 You're confusing social enforcement which exists in
all times and all places with a different set of issues being addressed
here. A commissar isn't the same as a bigwig at the politburo.



Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 27, 2020 06:21 PM (Zm+LZ)


No
- I would say you are confused. Groups in power enforce their whims by
whatever means are at their disposal. What you say - frankly - is
based in Classical Liberalism. Plenty of folks here are Classical
Liberals. I used to be.

WS - Gauleiters are showing up now. Understand that. Adjust what you think is "right" and what is "now" accordingly. Nobody gives two shits about how right you are if you are in the gulag. There is right, and dead right.

Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 27, 2020 06:39 PM (pp7ze)

331 My wife, who is the legal eagle of the family. tells me I am wrong on several points -

1. firstly - it is the state SOS and governors and election officials violation of their own state election laws that violates the Equal Protection Clause - ie it makes certain voters more equal than others by bypassing the legislature that is given to the election by the Constitution - its not the election fraud in and of itself...that is a state matter.
2. Never the less, even though Trump's legal team thought that should make this a federal issue - the 3rd district did not feel the violations sited in the suit and the fraud resulting from those violations came to the point that only the Feds could offer a cure, that the states can handle it - but she agrees with me that this it pretty natural at the federal level for them to default to this and their reluctance to get involve in state matters when an out is available will always manifest itself.
3. The wifey disagrees with me that the SCOTUS will pick this up as a given - it will go to a few justices in the rotation to accept an appeal and if they do, it goes en banc but that is no given - I disagree, no one is going to punt the greatest decision in our life time to some 3rd district panel...
4. My wife thinks the equal protection clause will be rejected by the SCOTUS if picked up, even by the conservative Justices, because state election matters as per the Constitution are clearly within their right, and that Bush v Gore was decided along those lines as the voting in FL at the time of the decision clearly was in line with those state law. In other words - it differed to state laws as they existed.

I disagree, of course, I think the SCOTUS will decide for Trump v PA, MI and GA and remand the cure to those state legislatures to pick electors...I'll be sleeping on the couch tonight though.

Posted by: Boswell at November 27, 2020 06:39 PM (w2LAm)

332 China.

Scumbag probably sold out on the cheap also. Idiot
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 27, 2020 06:26 PM (85Gof)

He's part of the CCP, BGY program just like Biden.
_ Come for the porn stay for the compromise

Posted by: Braenyard at November 27, 2020 06:39 PM (CZm2G)

333 A lot of the old traditions of elite behavior were based on the idea that you were often the beneficiary of good fortune beyond your control, and that your position was precarious, and so it was best not to flaunt one's wealth and status openly.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 27, 2020 06:03 PM (jOcSX)


I have always thought the concept (not strictly honored, but present) of the Divine Right of Kings was an acknowledgement of the need/duty of rulers to both recognize teh existence of a higher moral power, and a warning to be circumspect in their actions! Our new "elites" recognize neither!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 27, 2020 06:45 PM (87oRe)

334 Greg Kelly @gregkellyusa 2h

Feeling a lot of "Energy" out there, this thing ain't over! And now we got the #arizonahearing coming on Monday

Posted by: Braenyard at November 27, 2020 06:48 PM (CZm2G)

335 256 221
People need to swing for this.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 27, 2020 06:04 PM (aqmAd)

++++
They really do. Harsh and hard sentences, including breaking people financially. But I would most definitely call for the rope. This has gone on far too long, with people holding offices that we haven't a clue if they were gotten by legitimately.
Posted by: washrivergal

Do you think it's occured to the vaunted AG Barr that perhaps if a few of the guilty from spygate had swung many of the participants in this fraudulent election would have been afraid to participate?

Nah, he was mccaining/grahamming all along.

Posted by: Fra Filippo at November 27, 2020 06:50 PM (WH8+k)

336 Modern day sumptuary laws. Only the privileged may indulge.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at November 27, 2020 06:53 PM (0tmoY)

337 @333...a certain modesty is an important feature of a healthy aristocracy. They know they were born into it, after all, and must justify their staus and power. We don't have an aristocracy, we have a meritocracy. Meritocracy is a misnomer, because true merit has very little to do with how staus and power is achieved in the USA. But "elites" think the've earned their status and power, so have no real reason to be modest about it. An unhealthy aristocracy forgets where it comes from, a meritocracy doesn't know where it comes from in thne first place.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 27, 2020 06:59 PM (evxBY)

338 Nah, he was mccaining/grahamming all along.
Posted by: Fra Filippo at November 27, 2020 06:50 PM (WH8+k)


No surely, he was on of the good guys (starting in 1973).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barr

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 27, 2020 07:00 PM (87oRe)

339 Well we now 210 House seats with 3 still uncalled. Gop officially flipped the Cal 21 today

Posted by: Jonah at November 27, 2020 07:04 PM (rbgPC)

340 No matter what happens, Donald is my idol. The Gop potus to ever fight, besides Reagan

Posted by: Jonah at November 27, 2020 07:06 PM (rbgPC)

341 I am hoping the Scotus also is realizing that trust in America for future elections is at risk. The data on how Biden performed worse than Hillary is every city, besides those in swing states, confirms the software steal

Posted by: Jonah at November 27, 2020 07:09 PM (rbgPC)

342 Biden did not cheat, he does not even know what day it is. This was done by the CIA and Pentagon, thru their vessel dominion.

Posted by: Jonah at November 27, 2020 07:12 PM (rbgPC)

343 Oprah....need I say more?

Posted by: Judith at November 27, 2020 07:15 PM (u1W2O)

344 291 Buyout. Sheesh.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 27, 2020 06:20 PM (u82oZ)

Better than a "Bye, Out", package.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 27, 2020 07:42 PM (qyH+l)

345 OFF TOPIC, except not-so-much:

Regarding the Johns Hopkins University newsletter which scrubbed an article by Yanni Gu summarizing a study by Genevieve Briand. The item was dated 11/22 and titled A Closer Look at US Deaths Due to Covid-19 (in which she demonstrates that there are NO "excess deaths" from covid; the numbers of deaths listed as due to pneumonia and influenza dropped by about the same amount as the numbers of deaths attributed to covid). (The disappeared article can be found at the Wayback Machine.)

Wellll, I searched the JHU newsletter for her name and found three-plus-one items: thumbnails of 3 graphs used in the article, AND the following message from the Editors:
" Editor's Note: After The News-Letter published this article on Nov. 22, it was brought to our attention that our coverage of Genevieve Briand's presentation "COVID-19 Deaths: A Look at U.S. Data" has been used to support dangerous inaccuracies that minimize the impact of the pandemic. "

Get that? A researcher's data was used to support *BAD-THINK*, and so this analysis of publically-available data had to be suppressed.

WHAT COUNTRY AM I LIVING IN ?


Posted by: Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah at November 27, 2020 08:04 PM (Nm/yV)

346 In his Democracy in America Alexis De Tocqueville wrote about how democratic societies, by the very equality that was sought therein, were not capable of the grand debaucheries that monarchical societies could produce. He seemed to be very sad about this.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 27, 2020 10:26 PM (YPZzQ)

347 Perhaps it's past time for a "Dead Zone" moment for ALL our communist politicians, GOP-e, NeverTrump and Deep State?

There are plenty of pigstys open in middle America that will eliminate ALL evidence of their ever existing.

Posted by: Grumpy Oldman at November 28, 2020 12:05 PM (OLyxY)

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