Giuliani Highlights Vote Fraud as Well as Corporate Media Corruption in Fiery Press Conference

This is a coup.

This is no longer America.

During a press conference Thursday, President Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani scorched the corporate media for refusing to cover what he called "a massive attack on the integrity of the voting system" in the United States.

The Trump Campaign hosted the presser at RNC headquarters in Washington, D.C. with Giuliani, Trump Campaign Legal Advisor Jenna Ellis, and Trump lawyer Sidney Powell.

Throughout the news conference, Giuliani blasted the MSM for going along with the ruse that Democrat Joe Biden won the 2020 election fair and square amid mounting evidence of massive election fraud. He also chastised them for refusing to cover or condemn threats and harassment against witnesses of the fraud and lawyers on Trumpís legal team. "It's tolerated because YOU condone it in the press and you don't cover it and you don't condemn it," he charged.

Giuliani said that that the only reason Democrat Joe Biden got more votes than President Trump is because thousands of illegal ballots were produced and allowed to be used after the election was over. "Give us an opportunity to prove it in court, and we will," Giuliani promised.

The former New York Mayor informed reporters that his team has gathered a vast amount of evidence that points to a conspiracy involving multiple states that was executed from a centralized location.

"This was not a singular [case] of voter fraud in just one state," Giuliani said. "This pattern repeats itself in a number of states. Almost exactly the same pattern which any experienced investigator, prosecutor would suggest that there was a plan from a centralized place to execute these various acts of voter fraud specifically focused on big cities and specifically focused on, as you can imagine, big cities controlled by Democrats, and particularly focused on big cities that have a long history of corruption." He noted that the number of voter fraud cases in Philadelphia alone "could fill a library."

In Pennsylvania, Giuliani pointed out, the margin of "victory" for Biden was 69,140 votes, but there were 682,770 mail-in ballots that the Democrat machines in Pittsburgh and Philly did not allow to be inspected before they were entered into the vote.

"Mail ballots are particularly prone to fraud," Giuliani said, going on to note that the absent-minded Biden actually admitted a few days before the election "that he had the best voter fraud team in the world."

More at the link. Deb Heine does a great job of digesting the press conference.

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1 It was a great, and maddening, thing to watch.

Posted by: bluebell at November 19, 2020 07:21 PM (/669Q)

2 By far the best press conference I've ever seen.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 19, 2020 07:21 PM (AiZBA)

3 Empires fall.

Wish I weren't witnessing it first hand.

Posted by: Bete at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (Ojki1)

4 Rudy gave me hope. That's not a small thing.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (v16oJ)

5 willowed:
Until this election business is settled, I can't just sit and watch the news, whether biased or otherwise. My heart/anxiety can't take it.

If I'm watching TV it's something off topic to take my mind off of all this. I just watched The Crown season 4. I'm watching The Queen's Gambit right now.

But I'll get my news and discussion from here and Insty mostly. Other than that, I don't even want to hear about "President-Elect" Joe Biden and Trump's "baseless claims."

We're at war.

I can't listen to people lie to me about it.

Posted by: pmurT at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (/3Et3)

6 Virginia was stolen too.


Every single state they stopped counting in plus more were stolen.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (ySQBZ)

7 7 My posts...aren't posting

Hmmm.

Posted by: Scanner Dan at November 19, 2020 07:23 PM (kFflX)

8 Everything was stolen. If we pull this off, the next step is to get rid of every sitting fucking GOP sack of shit in the house and senate.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 19, 2020 07:23 PM (8B6Ng)

9 And so it begins.

Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (Uhu8A)

10 6
Virginia was stolen too.





Every single state they stopped counting in plus more were stolen.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (ySQBZ)

_________


The Arizona Senate seat was stolen in 2018 as a dry run for the nationwide 2020 steal.

Posted by: ShainS at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (WqPYg)

11 Politico poll says 36% of Democrats say Trump should not concede, but continue to challenge the results.

That's the FLOOR of Trump's Democrat support.

He won a landslide, with 40-45 states going red. I'll go to my grave believing this.

Posted by: pmurT at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (/3Et3)

12 Top 20?

Posted by: Andrew Ryan at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (Ca/CS)

13 My posts...aren't posting
Posted by: ErikInTexas at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (+npba)


Did you check your turtle?

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (8B6Ng)

14 Rudy gave me hope. That's not a small thing.
Posted by: pep at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (v16oJ)
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Sidney was exceptional, too. And Jenna really put the icing on the cake starting with her initial slap-down of the idiot trying to yell a question over her.

They did great. It was a lot of info, and if (IF) people can see this, it might wake them up.

Posted by: bluebell at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (/669Q)

15 Guiliani is an American hero

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (nUhF0)

16 Pmurt

I can listen to the radio but not watch TV.

I'm in season 7 of the great british baking show

Then the Crown

Then maybe last kingdom

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:25 PM (ySQBZ)

17 I'd almost....ALMOST....be willing to accept a Biden presidency if I thought it would be the spur this country needs to get serious about election integrity.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2020 07:25 PM (v16oJ)

18 Yeah, he's threatening RICO, and the tentacles for RICO come after anybody who performed an act in furtherance of the conspiracy.

I hope this is not just bluster.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:25 PM (AwPyG)

19 20
Yeah, he's threatening RICO, and the tentacles for RICO come after
anybody who performed an act in furtherance of the conspiracy.


Could there be a better person to make that case?

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2020 07:26 PM (v16oJ)

20 Virginia was stolen too.





Every single state they stopped counting in plus more were stolen.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (ySQBZ)


Realistically, Trump probably won 40+ states. All the states where the vote counting mysteriously ceased in unison were where they panicked that they didn't cheat hard enough and then kicked it into overdrive.

Posted by: mugiwara at November 19, 2020 07:26 PM (RdF5D)

21
And then Mike Pence gives a statement about Moderna having 100 million vaccinations ready to go, and at the end the fake press starts screaming "why are you undermining democracy!!"

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 19, 2020 07:26 PM (nF6gq)

22 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq7TeUJwQD4feature=emb_logo
Watch the whole thing...

Posted by: Viator at November 19, 2020 07:26 PM (89mvl)

23 Every single state they stopped counting in plus more were stolen.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (ySQBZ)


They had to stop because their shitty stone-age software couldn't keep up with the Trump landslide.

If they had managed to keep up with the votes, they might have gotten away with it.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 19, 2020 07:26 PM (8B6Ng)

24 My posts...aren't posting
Posted by: ErikInTexas at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (+npba)

Did you check your turtle?
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (8B6Ng)


See your doctor if your post lasts for more than four hours.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 19, 2020 07:26 PM (hku12)

25 Could there be a better person to make that case?

Sorry. That should have been done in Chandler Bing mode:
Could there BE a better person to make that case?

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (v16oJ)

26 I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (ZLI7S)

27 Two Oregon counties voted to force the local government to consider secession.

I believe this is how it needs to start.

Posted by: Gloom, Despair, and Agony on Me at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (8YFRI)

28 I feel a lot better than I did a week ago,

Posted by: jsg at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (2eMOL)

29 Good evening, Horde. Just trying to keep the faith.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (TdMsT)

30 And the AmeriPravda Press will just report on Rudy's hair dye and repeat "no evidence! no evidence! no evidence!"

Those who want to know can find out, but you have to go find the info, instead of being spoon-fed it by the MSM and the popular culture.

Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (NiXyF)

31 When does media bias cross the line into criminal malfeasance?

By the way I believe that line was cross long ago. I'm just not sure how to define it.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at November 19, 2020 07:28 PM (lgiXo)

32 Gotta hand it to Rudy. Great job today.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 19, 2020 07:28 PM (evxBY)

33 12 Politico poll says 36% of Democrats say Trump should not concede, but continue to challenge the results.

That's the FLOOR of Trump's Democrat support.

He won a landslide, with 40-45 states going red. I'll go to my grave believing this.
Posted by: pmurT at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (/3Et3)

Your proposal is accepted.

Posted by: @DavidOAtkins at November 19, 2020 07:28 PM (Ojki1)

34 I think I mentioned that Sen McSally, who seemed strangely unconcerned about losing her first election, is sister to the McSally on the Board of Dominion. (Mark, I think)

the twitter detective who found this said it was not easy to find

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:28 PM (AwPyG)

35
I don't laugh. Rarely does anyone make me laugh out load.

But right now I'm watching Roseanne on Youtube live-stream and she's talking Tina Forte, a big Trump supporter from New York.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 19, 2020 07:28 PM (nF6gq)

36 I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (ZLI7S)
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It casts an awful lot of doubt on an awful lot of things, doesn't it?

Posted by: bluebell at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (/669Q)

37 Chris Wallace on the press conference: "We didn't air it."
'"Rudy Giuliani was ugly to look at."

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (AD3JT)

38 I know my hope is probably in vain, but the SC just needs to say mail in ballots are too insecure for US elections.

Do you know often I get someone else's mail? It's absurd to think this is some safe way for a country to vote, how many more examples do we need that it puts everything at risk? All for convenience? Like 90%+ of the country went to a polling place and votes 20 years ago.

That's really our only hope here moving forward. If mail in voting becomes the norm, it will just be 50 states of "blue".

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (gkdnV)

39 willowed: Greg Kelly is a straight shooter, he left FARCE News several years ago. Maybe FARCE has been a sh*t storm a lot longer than we think.

still can't think of his colleague's name in Iraq.
Rick Levanthal, I got it.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (CZm2G)

40 They were all good but I was worried one of them might drop from the heat.

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (+ya+t)

41 Then the Crown

Then maybe last kingdom

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:25 PM (ySQBZ)

The Last Kingdom is great. You mentioning this made me check and I see they FINALLY released the 4th season.

And I too have to watch the new season of The Crown.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (cF8AT)

42 Will someone make some This Is A Coup hats and flags, please?

Posted by: Bama Bubba at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (mAxkE)

43 20 Yeah, he's threatening RICO, and the tentacles for RICO come after anybody who performed an act in furtherance of the conspiracy.

I hope this is not just bluster.
Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:25 PM (AwPyG)

Eh, RICO's not here, man.

Posted by: Hawain judge, Judge Sullivan, Judge Roberts at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (Ojki1)

44 Trump was doing well, easily won Florida, then votes suddenly stopped being counted in sync across multiple states for several hours.

I have been watching election returns closely for 28 years and I have never seen that happen before.

Posted by: Gloom, Despair, and Agony on Me at November 19, 2020 07:30 PM (8YFRI)

45 Is the media dying right before our eyes ?

Posted by: jsg at November 19, 2020 07:30 PM (2eMOL)

46
There are detailed posts out there that show the KY Governor race in 2018 was manipulated for the D. Votes actually changed backwards for the R in real time, and displayed on CNN as it happened.

Dominion/Smartmatic has been doing dry runs on individual elections in the USA for years.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 07:30 PM (sy5kK)

47 @34
If its true that the media was conspiring with the dominion types (and it sure seemed that way, on election night) they're going down. I'm sure there are memos and correspondence.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:30 PM (AwPyG)

48 I try to read news here and elsewhere on the net rather than watch a video, but I made sure to watch that press conference today.

Amazing. Horrible.

And we all knew what the msm would do with the story...the print media would highlight Rudy's sweating since you could hear the shutters clicking everytime he wiped his face, (and maddeningly ADD color to his sweat in the photos to make it look like his hair dye was dripping when it wasn't!), and the tv media would ignore it.

They did both. Sweaty photos and tv blackout everywhere except Fox.

Posted by: squeakywheel at November 19, 2020 07:30 PM (WrOrt)

49 'Rons and 'Ettes can bunk to Jenna Ellis' lengthy, tasty tirade against the Know-Nothing Media propagandists.

https://youtu.be/ceUW3sv4zaU

Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (NiXyF)

50 I only follow a few people who are focusing in this stuff, Barris, Rob Barnes, Seth Levy and Election Wizard, and all seem to be bullish after this press conference, which as of yesterday I think 2-3 of them were starting to say "put up or shutup" when it comes to this whole "Kraken" shit.

Apparently tomorrow is the day they actually address going to file their cases, so hopefully we start to assess real evidence, because while I believe the circumstantial evidence they've been showing, I'm not sure that does anything to sway a judge, especially a right leaning one who will follow the law exactly (as we know if Biden was making the case and showed up with a garbage bag filled with day old bread, he'd have a lefty judge throwing the whole election out)

Posted by: Rbastid at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (XwTyM)

51 So file the suit.

Have Sidney Powell, for whom I do, indeed, have the utmost respect, sign a pleading which puts her at risk for Rule 11 sanctions if the claims are unfounded.

Attach the evidence as exhibits.

Let me go on PACER and download the files and read it for myself.

Because, and hate me all you want for this Horde, right now? This is all Sources Say bullshit.

This is Adam Schiff shrieking about all this evidence he has but no you cannot see it.

Put up. I am *begging* you to put up. I am desperate to believe. But I'm not doing so just because a former *spit* prosecutor *spit* says it is true.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (GbPPJ)

52 Good evening, Horde. Just trying to keep the faith.
Posted by: Ladyl at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (TdMsT)


If you or any other reader hasn't seen today's press conference use the link below. Guaranteed that you will be cheering by the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq7TeUJwQD4

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (AiZBA)

53 Remember all the delays and problems with the primaries earlier this year? Here's some details.

- Around 300,000 absentee ballots magically appeared.
- "After approving a constitutional amendment in 2018 to allow for no-reason absentee voting, voters cast nearly 1.6 million absentee ballots in the Aug. 4 primary. The total beat the previous absentee voting record of 1.27 million absentee ballots cast in the November 2016 presidential election."

https://tinyurl.com/y6dyb72g

The canvass commissioners tried to raise a fuss then too, but were dismissed.

Posted by: Damiano at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (YDPU/)

54 Kimberley Guilfoyle is on with Kelly, her face doesn't move.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (CZm2G)

55 I listened to about half the press conference on youtube before I got off work today. I'll listen to the rest tomorrow. It was really sobering. I wonder if I can get my mama to watch this.

Posted by: April at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (OX9vb)

56 It was fantastic.

Of course, we still have to hope for some half-honest judges and state legislators. And that's a lot to hope for nowadays.

But it reminded me of why I always liked Rudi. I loved the fact that he pointed out the the presstitutes that they were abusing the word "evidence". And conflating different lawsuits as if they were all one. And, of course, how they were completely covering up anything they don't like.

As Mollie put it, they lie and they lie and they lie. They've gone beyond being just the enemies of the people. Since God is Truth, they are taking on an even higher authority.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (7X3UV)

57 Kits will be sold to skeptics. "Model your own electoral disaster! Puzzle includes pieces, video clips of outrage, faces, insignificant mobs, ballots, blah, commentary, blah."

Those of you who bet on Trump's win, Zod knows who you are Pay, or.

Posted by: Zod at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (xK9An)

58 Deb Heine

Heine...hehe heh

Posted by: Bruce at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (vd8XM)

59 >>It casts an awful lot of doubt on an awful lot of things, doesn't it?

It does. Living in Democrat controlled states most of my life I'm used to rigged elections on the local level but I've always suspected there was so much more going on around the country that I couldn't quite see.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (ZLI7S)

60 I have been watching election returns closely for 28 years and I have never seen that happen before.

Posted by: Gloom, Despair, and Agony on Me


It's happened before, but this year was orders of magnitude larger.

Posted by: Deep Dark Depression, Excessive Misery at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (v16oJ)

61 >>Kimberley Guilfoyle is on with Kelly, her face doesn't move.


JokerFace, that one.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 07:32 PM (zDVTE)

62 Lol. Biden declared winner in Georgia after Republicans in the pocket of Dominion recount the fraudulent votes.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2020 07:32 PM (h2OUV)

63 Jenna Ellis beatdown of the Progda Enemedia at the press conference today (poor video, but it's the audio that matters):



https://tinyurl.com/y65e7k7t

Posted by: ShainS at November 19, 2020 07:32 PM (WqPYg)

64 @46
that happened this time on CNN too. a twitter detective showed a screenshot behind anderson cooper where the trump total lost the same amount the biden total gained, over a split second.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:32 PM (AwPyG)

65 There is only one way Biden wins this.
And that's if SCOTUS believes that the outrage of the left is worse than our OUTRAGE.

---

Remember when protesters with guns showed up at the Michigan capitol to voice their disagreement with covid hysteria restrictions? We need more than that.

Maybe add some chatter about impeaching judges who defend vote fraud.

Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2020 07:32 PM (kOpft)

66 Willowed, but pertinent.
A lesson to be learned....
FOX, once the most "powerful voice in news" is no longer. And we did nothing more than stop watching it.
Moving forward, with "more kinetic" operations....

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate Hoisting the Black Flag at November 19, 2020 07:32 PM (3H9h1)

67 On his show today, Rush was making bored teenager noises while Rudy was doing his hyperbole thing. I think he's at the put-up-or-shut-up phase, as am I. But, at the end of the presser, I understood much better what they were doing and now see they have an actual path forward. I mean, Im on board, no matter what. But its nice to know they know what theyre doing. As for me....Hawkwind's "Brainstorm" is kickin my ass. Lemmy really borrowed heavily from his time with them for his Motorhead schtick...

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at November 19, 2020 07:32 PM (lIDCz)

68 Has Fox News told us how wrong we are yet?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2020 07:33 PM (h2OUV)

69 The left has been pretending that Rudy is some kind of reality-show joke, and a lot of young folks don't know that much about him.

If I were up against Rudy, I'd be terrified.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 19, 2020 07:33 PM (BJKQV)

70 3
Empires fall.



Wish I weren't witnessing it first hand.

Posted by: Bete at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (Ojki1)


__________


Starring Bill Clinton as Caligula.

Posted by: ShainS at November 19, 2020 07:33 PM (WqPYg)

71 As I said earlier today, I've been in a daze since November 4. I can't seem to focus or accomplish anything.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh at November 19, 2020 07:33 PM (ptqGC)

72 The first step in having a successful coup is total control of a nation's media.

CHECK.

The next step is stuffing ballot boxes.

CHECK

The next step is throwing out the old government.

.
.
.

Hold my beer

- SCROTUS

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 19, 2020 07:33 PM (/Dgcm)

73 11 Politico poll says 36% of Democrats say Trump should not concede, but continue to challenge the results.

That's the FLOOR of Trump's Democrat support.

He won a landslide, with 40-45 states going red. I'll go to my grave believing this.
Posted by: pmurT at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (/3Et3)
_________

And we know how reliable a Politico poll would be. that comes to, what, at least 45% in real math.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 19, 2020 07:33 PM (7X3UV)

74 The "Red Mirage" mirage couldn't hold. The Dems know the actual number of people who voted for Trump and, sportily or not, will not accept the theft of the election.

Posted by: Fortcoins at November 19, 2020 07:33 PM (nV60k)

75 I listened to it on Rush. If I wasn't convinced before (I was), I would certainly be now (I am).

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2020 07:34 PM (XhWtx)

76 40 Chris Wallace on the press conference: "We didn't air it."
'"Rudy Giuliani was ugly to look at."

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (AD3JT)

He said that!?!?

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 07:34 PM (cF8AT)

77 Rudy used lawyer speak for, "F You, War!"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at November 19, 2020 07:34 PM (WEBkv)

78 *takes names of the 'No-Noods' crowd*

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2020 07:34 PM (oVJmc)

79 pmur, I'm the same

overdosed on kdramas
watching Patriot now

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 19, 2020 07:34 PM (nUhF0)

80 Of course, we still have to hope for some half-honest judges and state legislators. And that's a lot to hope for nowadays.

***********

Pretty much what it comes down to. It doesnt matter that the constitution and the law is on our side, it has to be ENFORCED. If the court and the state wont enforce the law the republic is lost.

Posted by: Gloom, Despair, and Agony on Me at November 19, 2020 07:34 PM (8YFRI)

81

That press conference -- encouraging it was!

I'd never heard Sidney Powell speak... Texas, I presume... She bears a striking resemblance to my old boss's wife from the dairy farm!

Posted by: Zettai at November 19, 2020 07:34 PM (6AVB9)

82 19
I'd almost....ALMOST....be willing to accept a Biden presidency if I
thought it would be the spur this country needs to get serious about
election integrity.


ah. moving from anger to bargaining. up next: depression.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 19, 2020 07:35 PM (sGtp+)

83 All of my whinging aside, the issue of voter fraud is real and it is serious and it is driving me even more insane than I already am that the Super Duper Ultra Conservative Conservatives are hand waving away the issues.

I don't care if there are not enough votes for Trump to win. I care that elections are as honest as anything run by fallible humans can be.

BC and I get into an actual screaming at each other fight on the podcast because I think Erick Erickson is a smarmy piece of shit and BC doesn't. I stand by my view though I do feel badly for yelling at BC.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:35 PM (GbPPJ)

84 Jenna Ellis's spanking of the press was so good, I almost wish I was the press!

Posted by: Average Guy at November 19, 2020 07:35 PM (1O00z)

85 Chris Wallace on the press conference: "We didn't air it."

'"Rudy Giuliani was ugly to look at."

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (AD3JT)



Just dig that ratings grave a little deeper you prissy little cuck.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2020 07:35 PM (MFe3R)

86 All of the media flat out saying there is no evidence, completely ignoring Rudy's claims.

Posted by: iandeal at November 19, 2020 07:35 PM (vgGyZ)

87 Chris Wallace on the press conference: "We didn't air it."

'"Rudy Giuliani was ugly to look at."

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (AD3JT)

come on man, did he really say that?

Posted by: spypeach at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (Up/Jb)

88 @45...I think so. Gen Xers watch network TV, and have some residual memory of the big brand news having some credibilty, but they're young enough to understand the big shift that's taken place. Boomers are hopeless...if CBS and the NY Times say it, it's gospel, they can't help themselves. And younger than Gen X? Their media consumption habits simply do not include network TV and traditional media. The industry will last as long as there are still some lazy Gen Xers around, but no longer.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (evxBY)

89 26 I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (ZLI7S)

I think we agreed early in the then-unraveling political spying scandal that the intelligence community and the FBI probably had been doing this type thing a long, long time. We still don't know many times it happened.

The difference here, I think, is it involved far too many people for someone not to talk. So I'm not nearly as certain this happened on this scale previously. We probably have arrived at a place in our emerging totalitarianism where the State now does this openly in our faces just to show who the boss is. Dunno.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (puu6v)

90
I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.



When did the Dominion system enter the election ecosphere? I'd start there.


Or we could just ask Venezuela. Which is what the globalistas want to happen to us. If Puddinhead O'Biden manages to slither his way into the White House, we'll all get to find out first hand.

That progressive POS hasn't even been sworn in and there's already no toilet paper in the grocery stores. This is merely the beginning of our travails if the liars somehow manage to win, which I still don't think will happen.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (HaL55)

91 Steven Crowder did a nice breakdown of some details of the MI fraud this AM.

https://tinyurl.com/y3g8c845

Highlight: The city of Detroit, apparently, has zero registered voters but turned in about 140k ballots that cannot be verified.

But to the Democrats, it doesn't matter. Just doxx, threaten, and sue the Republicans until they vote to certify the election.

Posted by: Damiano at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (YDPU/)

92 There's never been anyone more incurious about losing Senate races than Martha McSally.

Posted by: DBCooper at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (y1Mvi)

93 71
As I said earlier today, I've been in a daze since November 4. I can't seem to focus or accomplish anything.


Ditto, but it's different than 2008 or 2012. In those years, I felt deeply depressed about the future of the country, but despite Dem cheating, didn't think the cheating altered the outcome of the election. It's different this year.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (v16oJ)

94 Sidney Powell mentioned two states with regular, repeated jumps in Biden votes.

I *fear* she is talking about the Doug Ross analysis that Insty linked. I commented there and on Doug's blog, but that is poor analysis. (i do not know, maybe she meant something else.)

Doug is creating the data from the NYT dataset which just gives % biden, and % Trump, with 0.001% resolution. As that number flips (0.001 -> 0.002, etc.) it shows a jump which is nearly 6,000 votes for PA, and 4,800 votes in MI since their totals were about 6M, and 4.8M votes at the time. All the switches are nearly the same. Go to his blog to see the graphs.

I really hope Sidney is not referring to that.

She had earlier tweeted (and I think Trump retweeted) equally flawed analysis based on the NYT dtataset that claimed 2.7M votes had been swapped.

I like her, but I think she is clueless about math and says thing that she should have proven specious before repeating.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (LWu6U)

95 The turning of the tide is begun. I can smell it in the air.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (3GzTP)

96 This presser put me in the perfect mood for putting up Xmas lights. And I friggin' hate putting up Xmas lights.
Cheap Chinese strings of crap.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (axyOa)

97 26 I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (ZLI7S)

CIA probably stole dozens of foreign elections, and took the Presidency from Mittens. Why else did Obama change post election venue to a much smaller place...he thought they'd fail

Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (ONvIw)

98 436 Nood.
Posted by: Bete at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (Ojki1)

78 *takes names of the 'No-Noods' crowd*
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2020 07:34 PM (oVJmc)


Hush, hush, sweet Peebles.

Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (NiXyF)

99 Posted by: Deep Dark Depression, Excessive Misery at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (v16oJ)

********

Lol just now noticed the nick

Posted by: If it werent for bad luck Id have no luck at all at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (8YFRI)

100 66 Willowed, but pertinent.
A lesson to be learned....
FOX, once the most "powerful voice in news" is no longer. And we did nothing more than stop watching it.
Moving forward, with "more kinetic" operations....
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate Hoisting the Black Flag at November 19, 2020 07:32 PM (3H9h1)

Fox is going to have to figure out that people don't watch because they love them, they watch because there were never any real alternatives. Now that there are Fox is going to have to earn its ratings.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 19, 2020 07:37 PM (BJKQV)

101 Coup or no, I have faith in myself and the majority of Americans to provide and protect our families. The left will find out in very short order, when one depends on the largess of the drone class, the outcome is third world chaos.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 19, 2020 07:37 PM (oR71r)

102 Many of us wondered before the election why there was no Biden campaign and noting correctly that they must feel good about the cheat. We had no idea.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2020 07:37 PM (r+sAi)

103 I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.





Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (ZLI7S)

I know proving Trump's reelection is the priority right now, but eventually, there have to be audits done in every state. In Illinois, there were 400,000 more Cook County votes in the last couple election cycles (Starting with Pritzker's election) compared to the rest of the decade, when we've led the nation the entire decade for people fleeing the state.
Last time I looked, Biden took IL by about half a million, which is close enough to raise questions.

Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2020 07:37 PM (kOpft)

104 SHIT!!! i wrote the wrong shitheads name! It was NICOLE Wallace that said Rudy looked ugly.

That's a brain fart.

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (AD3JT)

105 92 There's never been anyone more incurious about losing Senate races than Martha McSally.
Posted by: DBCooper at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (y1Mvi)

Last account I had McSally had not conceded.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (puu6v)

106 Starring Bill Clinton as Caligula.


Posted by: ShainS at November 19, 2020 07:33 PM (WqPYg)




Barry Obama as Elagabalus.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (MFe3R)

107

Statisics experts have shown detailed data showing the votes were fixed starting early Wednesday morning.

The voting stopped for a while, the fake votes were added to suddenly lead, and then, like the stupid azzes they are, the Smartmatic software fixed the vote at the identical rate for many many vote updates, which is impossible.

Example, Trump leading by 100k votes, voting stops, suddenly Biden gets 120,000 votes, goes in the lead, and then on every reported vote after, Biden won by exactly one percentage point! 50% to 49%, exactly, count update after count update.
The cheating is proven in the data, impossible to happen organically, and the cheaters thought they would get away with it. Arrogance.
Examples over at TGP yesterday and before for details.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (sy5kK)

108 Remember, this phase is just about proving there was evidence that voting security was compromised enough to require not certifying and possibly audits.

Next phase, after audits, is to show proof of fraud.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (LWu6U)

109 26†I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (ZLI7S)


I think it's been happening for decades upon decades, but there was a pact. Republicans looked the other way when Democrats stole local elections in thier strongholds. You want to steal seats in Philly, fine. You want to inflate the votes a Dem gets for Pres in CA, fine. But not only did they go too far, committing massive fraud for the biggest seat of them all, but they did it against a guy who isn't a squishy bitch Republican. They gave Trump shit for 4 years, spying on him, calling him the worst names possible, and trying to impeach him, then they have the gall to attempt to steal the election and think he'd let them get away with it?

That's why I honestly don't care what the legal outcome is, I'd be fine if Trump got together all those who actually lead our soldiers (not the lifetime bureaucrats) and decided that he doesn't very much feel like giving up the presidency. F Biden and the dems, they did this to themselves.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (XwTyM)

110 Democrats have been cheating since Forever.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (zDVTE)

111 CIA probably stole dozens of foreign elections, and took the Presidency from Mittens. Why else did Obama change post election venue to a much smaller place...he thought they'd fail
Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (ONvIw)



Reminder, the CIA once open ran the country.

You don't think Papa Bush stopped being a spy, did you?

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (GbPPJ)

112 Trump was doing well, easily won Florida, then votes suddenly stopped being counted in sync across multiple states for several hours.

I have been watching election returns closely for 28 years and I have never seen that happen before.

___________________

Comfortably wins Florida, wins places like Iowa and Ohio by nearly double digits, but days later narrowly loses PA and Michigan. Biden would be the only President since JFK that lost Florida and Ohio but somehow became President. And everyone knows JFK also cheated.

You could also tell the media talking heads "knew" Trump had won and looked like death, their number crunchers told them there was no way the outstanding ballots would go for Biden by that margin, but of course they did.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (gkdnV)

113 ah. moving from anger to bargaining. up next: depression.


Posted by: Anachronda


Nope. I went straight to depression, but I don't remember homicidal rage being one of the steps. Anger, sure, but this is bigger.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2020 07:39 PM (v16oJ)

114 83
BC and I get into an actual screaming at each other fight on the podcast because I think Erick Erickson is a smarmy piece of shit and BC doesn't. I stand by my view though I do feel badly for yelling at BC.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:35 PM (GbPPJ)
___________

Tell BC, for me, that you are right, and he's full of shit.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 19, 2020 07:39 PM (7X3UV)

115 Fox had some Brit on their "panel" tonight, one of the 3/4 leftists on the panel, calling Giuliani's press conference "dangerous" and "crazy". That's what they're all going with. Dangerous and crazy. Fit to be institutionalized if you believe any of it.

So very Soviet of them, and so very predictable.

Posted by: Sammy Davis, Jr. at November 19, 2020 07:39 PM (OssQ4)

116 They threw down the gauntlet for the press. Daring of them to dissemble and lie like they normally do. It will be interesting to see how the press reports on the press conference. Of course, I don't expect anything different than their usual BS.

Posted by: Average Guy at November 19, 2020 07:40 PM (1O00z)

117 104 SHIT!!! i wrote the wrong shitheads name! It was NICOLE Wallace that said Rudy looked ugly.

That's a brain fart.

Chris had a sex change operation so soon?

Posted by: President Elect Lebron Horowitz at November 19, 2020 07:40 PM (UFgOG)

118 105-
She gave her farewell speech on the senate floor.

Posted by: DBCooper at November 19, 2020 07:40 PM (y1Mvi)

119
I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.



Posted by: JackStraw



Nixon could have raised holy hell with the 60 election. He chose not to "for the good of the Country". sigh,

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 19, 2020 07:40 PM (oR71r)

120 All of the media flat out saying there is no evidence, completely ignoring Rudy's claims.
Posted by: iandeal at November 19, 2020 07:35 PM (vgGyZ)


Ellis told them that they are not the court of law. Plus no matter how much evidence they present, the press will deny that it's evidence and continue to say there is no evidence.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:40 PM (zr5Kq)

121 87 Chris Wallace on the press conference: "We didn't air it."

'"Rudy Giuliani was ugly to look at."

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (AD3JT)

come on man, did he really say that?
Posted by: spypeach at November 19, 2020 07:36 PM (Up/Jb)
_________

I don't believe he did. But I'm happy to see the rumor spread.

Vulpes delenda est.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 19, 2020 07:40 PM (7X3UV)

122 CNN's Brianna Keilar stated that the Trump legal team's news conference held this afternoon "is so bananas we can't even bring it to you because it's just so full of BS."

CNN has to suppress it's own audience.

Posted by: Joe Sky at November 19, 2020 07:40 PM (+qsi2)

123 Long long crazy crazy night.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 19, 2020 07:41 PM (PUmDY)

124 Democrats have been cheating since Forever.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (zDVTE)


The Democrat Party is a criminal organization.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2020 07:41 PM (MFe3R)

125 70 3
Empires fall.



Wish I weren't witnessing it first hand.

Posted by: Bete at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (Ojki1)


__________


Starring Bill Clinton as Caligula.
Posted by: ShainS at November 19, 2020 07:33 PM (WqPYg)

And AoC as the horse he made consul.

Posted by: Bete at November 19, 2020 07:41 PM (Ojki1)

126 Scott Walker (WI) is somewhat back on board.

"Not only I think there's a good challenge, but I think we owe it to the tens of millions of people who voted for the president and the vice president, many of whom were first time voters and/or first-time voters for a conservative candidate," Walker said. "We owe it to each and every one of them to continue this fight."

Posted by: Also wants in-person voting with few exceptions at November 19, 2020 07:41 PM (BBWrU)

127 In the biography of Frank Hamen (sp?) the Texas Ranger who tracked down Bonnie & Clyde, they go on about how Texas was known for corrupt governors like Ma and Pa Ferguson ...

Posted by: Adriane the Well, That's the Way I Heard It Critic ... at November 19, 2020 07:41 PM (LPnfS)

128 I listened to this on Rush, what a great press release. Full of hope for real America.

Posted by: Nobody at November 19, 2020 07:41 PM (giU8k)

129 @89
We wouldn't have got this far without some powerful people in the shadows helping Trump navigate through this.
You may scoff at the idea of Q, but Ezra Watkins Cohen is the new guy who just cut the CIA bureaucracy out of the loop today and his name was dropped by Q about 2 years ago.
so that's what gives me hope more than anything else. there are people who drop little droplets of info on twitter (Bolton taking a bribe, etc) and I imagine they have war-gamed this out.

One of the first rumors was: what if military intel was monitoring the votes in real time? And now we hear that Rudy has info he can't say, because he can win without it.
I think the good guys got this.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:41 PM (AwPyG)

130 26 I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (ZLI7S)

It's been happening at least since JFK.

Around here, every election we joke about needing to win above the margin of fraud and finding ballots in trunks of cars.

The only difference that I see now is how rapidly details get around. No worries though. Twitter, Facebook, and the rest will fix that problem before the next election.

Posted by: Damiano at November 19, 2020 07:41 PM (YDPU/)

131 If Biden is installed, his "presidency" won't be worth a damn. He is already illegitimate, tbe entire world knows it, and all the media propaganda in the world won't change that. Extremely dangerous times ahead.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 19, 2020 07:41 PM (evxBY)

132 Reminder, the CIA once open ran the country.

You don't think Papa Bush stopped being a spy, did you?
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (GbPPJ)

and this is why I'm worried about the safety of the all of Trumps Lawyers, especially Sidney.

Posted by: spypeach at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (Up/Jb)

133 Someone is scared. Chris Krebs, the cybersecurity chief Trump fired, tweeted this out this afternoon:'

"That press conference was the most dangerous 1 hr 45 minutes in American history. And possibly the craziest."

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (ptqGC)

134 In the biography of Frank Hamen (sp?) the Texas Ranger who tracked down Bonnie & Clyde, they go on about how Texas was known for corrupt governors like Ma and Pa Ferguson ...

Posted by: Adriane the Well, That's the Way I Heard It Critic ...



And LBJ makes an appearance ...

Posted by: Adriane the Well, That's the Way I Heard It Critic ... at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (LPnfS)

135 113
ah. moving from anger to bargaining. up next: depression.




Posted by: Anachronda

Nope. I went straight to
depression, but I don't remember homicidal rage being one of the steps.
Anger, sure, but this is bigger.


not sure it works if you do them out of order.

Posted by: Anachronda at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (sGtp+)

136 Nixon could have raised holy hell with the 60 election. He chose not to "for the good of the Country". sigh,
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp

____________

And look how the media and liberals rewarded him for falling on his sword like that.

He could have cleaned so much of this up by contesting it, that was still an era where the rank and file on both sides would have wanted clean elections.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (gkdnV)

137 106 Starring Bill Clinton as Caligula.


Posted by: ShainS at November 19, 2020 07:33 PM (WqPYg)




Barry Obama as Elagabalus.





John Kerry as Incitatus.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (oVJmc)

138 The MI SoS is now saying that there is no legal mechanism for the canvassing board members to rescind their vote.

Posted by: FloridachickTrump WON at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (ml+CM)

139 42
Will someone make some This Is A Coup hats and flags, please?

Posted by: Bama Bubba at November 19, 2020 07:29 PM (mAxkE)

_________


Make Coups Treason Again!

Posted by: ShainS at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (WqPYg)

140 Tell BC, for me, that you are right, and he's full of shit.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 19, 2020 07:39 PM (7X3UV)


Hard to believe, but sometimes BC is indeed full of shit!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Rulers Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (2C38g)

141
It is logical that if systematic cheating software was used against the R Presidential candidate, that the same cheating happened to the R Senate candidate.

McSally in AZ, John James in MI. Sydney Powell said a day or two ago that any R downballot candidate that lost by 6% or less should sue.

And maybe enough GA votes to eliminate the runoff, because the R's got 50% + 1, as required by GA law.

That would be huge in the Senate. How many other Dems in the Senate won by under 6 points?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (sy5kK)

142 5 willowed:
I'm watching The Queen's Gambit right now.

The main thing that people seem to have against the Queen's Gambit (besides the drugs and sex) is that it is rather slow-moving with essentially a formulaic plot (complete with cardboard-cutout Soviets), and lasting through all 7 episodes can end up be a chore if you're not that into it. But OTOH I think many of the critics are still coming at it from more of a "movie" perspective (2-hour timeframe), and don't understand the binge-watching mentality. Another way of phrasing this could be that only the main character has any real development, and to build this for 7 hours with only minor subplots ends up a bit difficult.

Posted by: There's worse things on Netflix at November 19, 2020 07:43 PM (BBWrU)

143 Someone is scared. Chris Krebs, the cybersecurity chief Trump fired, tweeted this out this afternoon:'

"That press conference was the most dangerous 1 hr 45 minutes in American history. And possibly the craziest."
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (ptqGC)


Top. Men.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 19, 2020 07:43 PM (AiZBA)

144 Scott Walker (WI) is somewhat back on board.




he got screwed a few times by the same machine

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:43 PM (zr5Kq)

145 If Team Giuliani causes a reversal and a re-legitimized reelection of Trump, he'll go down as, perhaps, the greatest attorney in American history. You don't measure his success by money acquired; you measure it by justice attained. And he has been profoundly successful his entire career.

This is a historic event. This team of lawyers, should they prevail, will have a monument. Sure, Soros' Blackshirts/Blackbloc will be there to pull it down, but there will be a monument. Perhaps it'll be in front of Mt. Rushmore with Trump smiling at it.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 19, 2020 07:43 PM (HhXSr)

146 We are well and truly fucked if Biden is installed but Rudy has to win something. We have to have a lawsuit that isn't cancelled. We have to show up to SCOTUS and have John Roberts screw the country over.

Posted by: Chicago Vota at November 19, 2020 07:43 PM (ts6Zs)

147 83 ATC, Make him listen to smarmy Erick E's radio shows sometime. His public discussion of his seminary experiences was notably gag worthy as when he trumpets his very brief election law experience, his very brief experience as a elected official, etc.

A clue is that he laughs at his own jokes and witticisms.

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 07:43 PM (pO7gM)

148 The Kraken is 80+ million pissed Trump voters. #Resist Communism.

Posted by: Valiant at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (3MiF8)

149 Reminder, the CIA once open ran the country.

You don't think Papa Bush stopped being a spy, did you?
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (GbPPJ)

Of course not. And I will not be stunned to learn a few GOP have assisted this coup. McCains and Romneys aren't backing the donks for love divine. Fishel at OSS was very much a manipulator of this ilk when in Vietnam

Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (ONvIw)

150 >>The difference here, I think, is it involved far too many people for someone not to talk. So I'm not nearly as certain this happened on this scale previously. We probably have arrived at a place in our emerging totalitarianism where the State now does this openly in our faces just to show who the boss is. Dunno.

I agree but I think the real problem was Trump won so big they had to break the glass and throw everything they had. Seriously, go back to the campaign where Trump was doing multiple rallies a day drawing huge crowds and Biden was mainly sitting in his basement. Then we are supposed to believe that after Trump built huge leads around the country Biden was able to shatter election records and surge ahead in the middle of the night?

C'mon man! It never made any sense. Trump was cruising along to a solid victory in Wisconsin only to have 143,000 votes drop for Joe at 3:40 in the morning. When you look at it graphically it's even more ludicrous.

https://tinyurl.com/y4mncl33

If we had an honest media this would already be over.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (ZLI7S)

151 141 Gary Peters in MI

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (pO7gM)

152 @130
As a matter of fact, there was a stir when Cohen mentioned JFK in his presser--the one about cutting the CIA out of the loop

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (AwPyG)

153 Karl Rove is scared. Dana Perino is pissed/scared.


Lin Wood is shining a light on the kitchen cockroaches.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (ptqGC)

154 "That press conference was the most dangerous 1 hr 45 minutes in American history. And possibly the craziest."
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (ptqGC)
-------------

amazing how people who are fired from the Trump administration seem to harbor some deep rooted animosity toward the truth.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (WEBkv)

155 103 I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.





Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (ZLI7S)

I know proving Trump's reelection is the priority right now, but eventually, there have to be audits done in every state. In Illinois, there were 400,000 more Cook County votes in the last couple election cycles (Starting with Pritzker's election) compared to the rest of the decade, when we've led the nation the entire decade for people fleeing the state.
Last time I looked, Biden took IL by about half a million, which is close enough to raise questions.
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2020 07:37 PM (kOpft)
___________

Rudi pretty much implied that, after the election fight, there are going to be nationwide investigations. Maybe he outright said it, for that matter. A whole lot of people will catch some shit.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (7X3UV)

156 so, who killed JFK ?

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (zr5Kq)

157
"Dangerous."

...a threat to democracy...

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (nF6gq)

158 Someone is scared. Chris Krebs, the cybersecurity chief Trump fired, tweeted this out this afternoon:'

"That press conference was the most dangerous 1 hr 45 minutes in American history. And possibly the craziest."
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM (ptqGC)


We know this guy. He CLEARLY is trying to get away from the stain of working in the orange admin and stabbing at becoming a folk hero. He's a dick.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (ySQBZ)

159 > 26 I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how
long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.



Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:27 PM (ZLI7S)

Ummmm, really? Like maybe forever.... or since there were "elections." You can't honestly now just be realizing the scale of the corruption... can you?

Be better Jack, be better....
But in all seriousness, I do get what you're saying. I think deep down we all knew how bad it was, but didn't want to admit it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate Hoisting the Black Flag at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (3H9h1)

160 SHIT!!! i wrote the wrong shitheads name! It was NICOLE Wallace that said Rudy looked ugly.

That's a brain fart.
Posted by: Ktgreat at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (AD3JT)


It's pretty telling that Chris can be reasonably confused with Dumb as a Doorknob Nicolle.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (y7DUB)

161 Its not just the MSM not writing about it, its big Tech actively censoring and 'Fact Checking' every story of the evidence.

And its a coordinated effort, as the Congressional Hearings showed.

The US is under attack from traitors within. The Cabal of Media, Big Tech, and the Democrats... along with Antifa and BLM types, needs to be identified, and destroyed.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (NgKpN)

162
51 So file the suit.

Have Sidney Powell, for whom I do, indeed, have the utmost respect, sign a pleading which puts her at risk for Rule 11 sanctions if the claims are unfounded.

Attach the evidence as exhibits.

Let me go on PACER and download the files and read it for myself.

Because, and hate me all you want for this Horde, right now? This is all Sources Say bullshit.

This is Adam Schiff shrieking about all this evidence he has but no you cannot see it.

Put up. I am *begging* you to put up. I am desperate to believe. But I'm not doing so just because a former *spit* prosecutor *spit* says it is true.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (GbPPJ)

.................

Did you watch the press conference? The answers to your complaints are there.

Granted I had to watch it twice,

How many business, court days has it been since the day after the election?

Rudy says they have been compiling evidence for two weeks, and he gave the reason why they are keeping it to themselves for now.

it has only been ten business days since Election Day night.

Would you be ready to file that fast after such a complicated process and after making sure every witness coming forward was credible?

Or would you take a little more time than 10 business days?

You are kind of pounding the table here....and you know exactly what I mean by that,

Posted by: Greange at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (v7GHK)

163 118 105-
She gave her farewell speech on the senate floor.
Posted by: DBCooper at November 19, 2020 07:40 PM (y1Mvi)

Yeah, that is the ultimate concession and you are right about the lack of curiosity. Given the state of the Banana Empire, she probably will be pulling down eight figures annually lobbying for a new fighter jet soon.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (puu6v)

164 Rudi pretty much implied that, after the election fight, there are going to be nationwide investigations. Maybe he outright said it, for that matter. A whole lot of people will catch some shit.





many on R side been bought off

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (zr5Kq)

165 3 Empires fall.

Wish I weren't witnessing it first hand.
Posted by: Bete



To be fair, we really sucked at the whole Empire thing.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (uZ3Nc)

166 Who the heck is Kristin Fischer on Fox? She is delivering a rebuttal to trumps case not delivering the news.

Posted by: Pj at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (qlTN9)

167 I dunno. You've got a lot of top former prosecutors and extraordinary lawyers on that platform. They wouldn't stand up and make those claims if there wasn't something to it.

The Democrats and their media dick suckers are also reacting in a way that tells me this team is onto something.

Let's see how it plays out. I'm in.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (h2OUV)

168 5 willowed:
I'm watching The Queen's Gambit right now.

The main thing that people seem to have against the Queen's Gambit (besides the drugs and sex) is that it is rather slow-moving with essentially a formulaic plot (complete with cardboard-cutout Soviets), and lasting through all 7 episodes can end up be a chore if you're not that into it. But OTOH I think many of the critics are still coming at it from more of a "movie" perspective (2-hour timeframe), and don't understand the binge-watching mentality. Another way of phrasing this could be that only the main character has any real development, and to build this for 7 hours with only minor subplots ends up a bit difficult.
Posted by: There's worse things on Netflix at November 19, 2020 07:43 PM (BBWrU)


We're watching Queens Gambit now (we're on the 4th episode). It is strangely compelling. We really like it.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (AiZBA)

169
Bannon said in this afternoon's Warroom.org broadcast that MI and WI, with this new information, are going to flip to Trump. Couple of off the cuff analysis shows by just the corruption in a big Democrat county will be more than enough to flip it with many thousands of votes to spare.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (sy5kK)

170 138 Mi SOS is not a judge so her opinion is about the same as a person on the street, it will be judged in court like almost everything else about the MI election.

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (pO7gM)

171 @150
And whatever the scheme, the flood of Trump votes was so massive he ended up with (they'll admit) 73 million. so Joe B has to claim he won even more.
so we wind up like Detroit, with more votes than adult US people.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (AwPyG)

172 "Giuliani noted that he can't present all of the affidavits that he has because the people are afraid of being harassed and threatened by left-wing extremists, aided and abetted by the media.

"They may lose their job, they may lose their friends. We've lost lawyers because they've been threatened. We've had lawyers who need protection," Giuliani lamented.

Speaking directly to the reporters in the room, he added: "What's going on in this country is horrible and the censorship that you're imposing is making it worse.""
---------------------

That statement is more than a condemnation,
it's the premise for a legal case against the writers, editors, and the media that published false articles that caused death threats.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (CZm2G)

173 I always though Dem fraud was in like 1-2% territory, and more just "real" voters that weren't following the law. Like felons voting, college students not really residents of the state, illegal aliens etc.

I think now it easily could be 5% plus in some areas, and it really is bogus ballots, etc.

Mail in has made it so easy, at least from a logistics stand point, it's very hard to make fake voters at the polls. You have to bus them in, etc. Plus, people are just more scared of getting caught. But if you can just drop these things in blue mail boxes by the hundreds of thousands? There's almost zero penalty.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (gkdnV)

174 "That press conference was the most dangerous 1 hr 45 minutes in American history. And possibly the craziest."
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM

Hey Krebs: we have all your social media history.

Posted by: Sammy Davis, Jr. at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (OssQ4)

175 I used to wonder why some GOP newbie never ever became a Trump, rising up thru the chaff. I don't wonder anymore.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (6hLK2)

176 and then on every reported vote after, Biden won by exactly one percentage point! 50% to 49%, exactly,
Which in turn caused fractional votes. So dumb.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (r+sAi)

177
Gary Peters in MI

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM


who?

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (kioLb)

178 amazing how people who are fired from the Trump administration seem to harbor some deep rooted animosity toward the truth.


Theyre trying to remove what they think is an orange stain. Think Benedict Arnold kissing brit ass. They never succeed.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (ySQBZ)

179 No one with millions in their accounts is scared.

Posted by: Chicago Vota at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (ts6Zs)

180 I did not like when Powell implied in that conference that it is unknown who has that server seized in Germany - whether it is "the good guys".

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (zr5Kq)

181 6 Virginia was stolen too.


Every single state they stopped counting in plus more were stolen.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (ySQBZ)


this

Posted by: Shoey at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (hmNVd)

182 so, who killed JFK ?

Posted by: runner



Lee Oswald and others.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (oR71r)

183 If I'm watching TV it's something off topic to take my mind off of all this. I just watched The Crown season 4. I'm watching The Queen's Gambit right now.


This season of the Crown STINKS, no Reagan, No Pope John Paul II, and they shit on Thatcher, They kinda mention the Troubles. They didn't get a feel for the 80s at all. Thatcher, Reagan and The Pope help end Communism and nothing was mentioned.

The Queen met with John Paul II in 1980 which was a BIG deal considering Henry split from Rome.

They didn't even mention AIDS

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (dKiJG)

184 11 Politico poll says 36% of Democrats say Trump should not concede, but continue to challenge the results.

That's the FLOOR of Trump's Democrat support.

He won a landslide, with 40-45 states going red. I'll go to my grave believing this.
Posted by: pmurT at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (/3Et3)

I'm still not thinking he's much beyond 360 EVs.

The list of Dem wins (12 states + DC) should include:
CA 55, CT 7, DE 3, DC 3, HI 4, IL 20, MD 10, MA 11, NJ 14, NY 29, OR 7, VT 3, WA 12 = 178

Posted by: 360 / 538 = 66.9% at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (BBWrU)

185 Greetings:

My impression was that Rudie, Sidney, and the other blonde lawyer have been taking lessons from President-elected Trump's little blonde Press Secretary.

Posted by: 11B40 at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (evgyj)

186 153 Karl Rove is scared. Dana Perino is pissed/scared.


Lin Wood is shining a light on the kitchen cockroaches.
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (ptqGC)

They're like a lot of public school teachers. They get paid by "The System." What the system produces doesn't really matter as long as the system continues.

Anyone who upsets the system is the enemy. Trump is taking down the system.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (BJKQV)

187
If you told me 20 years ago I'd end up thinking Roseanne Barr was a wise woman, I'd tell you you're nuts.

But here we are...

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (nF6gq)

188 Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (ySQBZ)

------

You may know my husband's Deep State cousin. Worked in W's administration, and now is making bank advising lefty campaigns. Used to be a great guy. His wife, who was adopted as an infant, is a YUGE supporter of Planned Parenthood and abortion. Boggles the mind. We used to be really close. *sigh*

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (ptqGC)

189 149 Reminder, the CIA once open ran the country.

You don't think Papa Bush stopped being a spy, did you?
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (GbPPJ)

Of course not. And I will not be stunned to learn a few GOP have assisted this coup. McCains and Romneys aren't backing the donks for love divine. Fishel at OSS was very much a manipulator of this ilk when in Vietnam
Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (ONvIw)

Last time a Business type tried to get power in DC, his name was Ross Perot.

Was doing pretty good until their were suddenly death threats, and rumors of all kinds of insane stuff he and his family were involved in.

Coordinated hit job between Intelligence and the Media, destroyed him... drove him out of politics totally.

Sound, familiar?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (NgKpN)

190 many on R side been bought off
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (zr5Kq)
----------------

If people on the R side do the perp walk along with Dems, I'll take great pleasure in telling the left I'm glad R's got taken down too.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (WEBkv)

191 122 CNN's Brianna Keilar stated that the Trump legal team's news conference held this afternoon "is so bananas we can't even bring it to you because it's just so full of BS."

I suppose it's inappropriate for me to dismiss her because her name is Brianna.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (lgiXo)

192 I heard that Queens Gambit was very good right up to when it sucked.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (ySQBZ)

193 39 willowed: Greg Kelly is a straight shooter, he left FARCE News several years ago.
Posted by: Braenyard
----
I'll extend some trust to him until he goes full Hannity.

Posted by: BluesFish at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (O68gH)

194 That statement is more than a condemnation,
it's the premise for a legal case against the writers, editors, and the media that published false articles that caused death threats.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (CZm2G)


That would be where RICO comes in.

"It isn't the crime, it's the coverup."

Witness intimidation is, I believe, illegal and kind of a no-no in civilized societies.

You know, like we used to be?

Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (NiXyF)

195 166 Who the heck is Kristin Fischer on Fox? She is delivering a rebuttal to trumps case not delivering the news.
Posted by: Pj at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (qlTN9)


Oh no!

Astro-tot has gone over to the dark side!

She is hot! And her parents were both astronauts.

She grew up being called astro-tot her entire life, and hates it.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (sy5kK)

196 Put up. I am *begging* you to put up. I am desperate to believe. But I'm not doing so just because a former *spit* prosecutor *spit* says it is true.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery




Right there with you.

GIVE ME THE DOCUMENTS TO READ AND I'LL MAKE UP MY OWN MIND!!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (BM2fS)

197 >> Posted by: There's worse things on Netflix at November 19, 2020 07:43 PM (BBWrU)

I watched either 4 or 5 episodes of The Queen's Gambit, then forgot about it and could not care less what happens in the rest of the series. And I love binge watching. Not bingeable, for me, anyway.

Posted by: DJ at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (O3/K+)

198 I wanna be clear. I KNOW what went down after 9pm on election night. I saw it with my own eyes. Just to add on to my 1st comment, I'm tired of hearing how Trump caught them or theyre gonna win this state by 20k or whatnot. I want to know the path to a win. And Im very very glad we got Powell on our side. She better have a security detail like friggin Saddam had....there are people that want her dead. The same people that assisted Epstein in his "suicide"...

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (lIDCz)

199 153 Karl Rove is scared. Dana Perino is pissed/scared.


Lin Wood is shining a light on the kitchen cockroaches.
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (ptqGC)

That is a good summary of the last four years. There is a concerted effort now to stomp the flashlight into a million pieces.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at November 19, 2020 07:49 PM (puu6v)

200 Lee Oswald and others.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (oR71r)

he was the gun

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:49 PM (zr5Kq)

201 Could this organization be any MORE useless?!

@nytimesworld

The W.H.O. rejected the use of Gilead's drug, the antiviral remdesivir, as a treatment for Covid-19, saying it did not help patients survive the disease or aid in their recovery

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 07:49 PM (cF8AT)

202 BC and I get into an actual screaming at each other fight on the podcast
because I think Erick Erickson is a smarmy piece of shit and BC
doesn't. I stand by my view though I do feel badly for yelling at BC.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:35 PM (GbPPJ)


ATC... Erick Erickson is a smarmy piece of shit and a fake Christian.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 07:49 PM (946rW)

203 >Put up. I am *begging* you to put up. I am desperate to believe. But I'm not doing so just because a former *spit* prosecutor *spit* says it is true.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (GbPPJ)

Absolutely. Like I said earlier, due to the compressed timeline of this whole thing, we're going to know if they have the goods or not very, very soon.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 19, 2020 07:49 PM (L106N)

204 > I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.



I think there has been election fraud for as long as there have been elections

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 19, 2020 07:49 PM (iTXRQ)

205 The Democrat Party is a criminal organization.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 19, 2020 07:41 PM (MFe3R)

Correct.

Here's the rub. Republicans are just as dirty.

If this all fully comes to light and finally gets dealt with effectively, I expect nearly every person in elected office, from the local dog catcher to several presidents to be implicated some greater or lesser extent. This is also why I have a lot of doubts that it will ever fully come to light and get effectively dealt with.

Think about it for a moment. If the full scope and breadth of this comes out in court and is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, everything for the past several decades falls. Everything.

Personally, I think it needs to happen no matter what the consequences because the cost of it not happening is still worse, even though it's easier and convenient to ignore it all.

Posted by: Damiano at November 19, 2020 07:49 PM (YDPU/)

206 so, who killed JFK ?
Posted by: runner


Sue Ellen little sister, Krystal ...

Posted by: Adriane the Dang, I'm Old TV Critic ... at November 19, 2020 07:49 PM (LPnfS)

207 You are kind of pounding the table here....and you know exactly what I mean by that



Well stated sir/madam.

Posted by: FloridachickTrump WON at November 19, 2020 07:50 PM (ml+CM)

208 This season of the Crown STINKS, no Reagan, No Pope John Paul II, and they shit on Thatcher, They kinda mention the Troubles. They didn't get a feel for the 80s at all. Thatcher, Reagan and The Pope help end Communism and nothing was mentioned.

They didn't even mention AIDS
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (dKiJG)

Nah. They didn't end Communism. Communist leaders who wanted their country to be more open and free ended it in spite of them.

Posted by: College Professor at November 19, 2020 07:50 PM (BJKQV)

209 @156..."So who killed JFK?"

One of the mistresses, IIRC. Not Sue Ellen.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 19, 2020 07:50 PM (evxBY)

210 >>Who the heck is Kristin Fischer on Fox?


The redhead that looks kinda like a gelfling / fraggle?

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 07:50 PM (zDVTE)

211 192 I heard that Queens Gambit was very good right up to when it sucked.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:48 PM (ySQBZ)

Queen's gambit?

It that when ya suddenly change sex to become popular?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2020 07:50 PM (NgKpN)

212 Every single state they stopped counting in plus more were stolen.


-

Yep. That's the simplest way to approach it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at November 19, 2020 07:50 PM (k1L5r)

213 I think now it easily could be 5% plus in some areas, and it really is bogus ballots, etc.



Mail in has made it so easy, at least from a logistics stand point,
it's very hard to make fake voters at the polls. You have to bus them
in, etc. Plus, people are just more scared of getting caught. But if
you can just drop these things in blue mail boxes by the hundreds of
thousands? There's almost zero penalty.

Posted by: Blago



Yes! They thought all they needed was a 3% cheat, when it showed that wasn't going to cut it, they had to pull out all the stops.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 19, 2020 07:50 PM (oR71r)

214 Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:31 PM (GbPPJ)


I hear you.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:50 PM (zr5Kq)

215 @206...beat me to the joke!

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 19, 2020 07:50 PM (evxBY)

216 JFK stole the 1960 election, right?

Posted by: MJ at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (gAMkn)

217 National mask mandate? Umm, who gave you that power?

Posted by: Chicago Vota at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (ts6Zs)

218 This is Adam Schiff shrieking about all this evidence he has but no you cannot see it.

Put up. I am *begging* you to put up. I am desperate to believe. But I'm not doing so just because a former *spit* prosecutor *spit* says it is true.

Are you comparing Sidney Powell to Adam Schiff? Because, and I'm not a lawyer or as smart as you, but that seems a little ridiculous. Do you really think she would put her reputation on the line if she didn't have something to back it up. Also, realizing I'm risking my life here

Posted by: spypeach at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (Up/Jb)

219 Remember when democracy died in darkness?

Posted by: Fortcoins at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (nV60k)

220 ATC, Make him listen to smarmy Erick E's radio shows sometime. His public discussion of his seminary experiences was notably gag worthy as when he trumpets his very brief election law experience, his very brief experience as a elected official, etc.

A clue is that he laughs at his own jokes and witticisms.
Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 07:43 PM (pO7gM)


BC does listen to him daily.

There's some back story here in that BC and Erickson are friends and I have reasons why I dislike Erickson intensely. So we are starting in wildly different places.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (GbPPJ)

221 The Kraken is 80+ million pissed Trump voters. #Resist Communism.


Posted by: Valiant at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (3MiF

The founders wrote the second amendment for a reason.

Under no circumstances can We the People tolerate a federal government run by Beijing's puppets.

Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (kOpft)

222 168 5 willowed:
I'm watching The Queen's Gambit right now.

The main thing that people seem to have against the Queen's Gambit (besides the drugs and sex)

--->

spoilers. I guess

mentioning drugs and sex is misleading.

Sex doesn't really happen in the show. The show starts off with a lez tease in the first scene but it's not her lifestyle. It was either a sleepover, or a very forward french strumpet. She sort of just gives it up to a few guys. There's one guy she can't get.

Drugs...not the exciting ones.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (a3Tyz)

223 Remember the President's Executive Order on September 12, 2018 regarding criminal penalties for foreign interference in a U. S. election? In addition, the first sentence of that order also singles out those guilty of "the distribution of propaganda and disinformation, [which] constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States:

https://tinyurl.com/ybg63hmw

Trump set a trap for his (and our) enemies two years ago.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (XYHTz)

224 West LA Fadeaway is very great.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (PUmDY)

225 LBJ stole his senate election

Posted by: Chicago Vota at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (ts6Zs)

226 I used to wonder why some GOP newbie never ever became a Trump, rising up thru the chaff. I don't wonder anymore.
Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at November 19, 2020 07:46 PM (6hLK2)


Trump, now President Trump, was an accomplished individual in multiple areas without depending on graft or favors to succeed.
Obviously, Trump's kind must NEVER be allowed to rise again!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Rulers Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (2C38g)

227 JFK stole the 1960 election, right?

Posted by: MJ at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (gAMkn)

yes

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (zr5Kq)

228 What if all the so called blue states are not at all "blue" but have been manipulated to be blue?

Vast numbers of conservatives in those states, who have come to realize that they can never get the government they choose are mass exiting those states, upending their lives, jobs, families to flee to a red state. All based on a lie. They have been disenfranchised.

Perhaps this was all by design and those "blue" states orchestrated an ideological purge that turned into a real one.

Where do those who had to flea, perhaps take a pay cut, lose money on the sale of their home, incur massive expenses to move, get justice if this was a giant gaslight?

Posted by: Derak at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (k0WjC)

229 If we're gonna go on about empires falling, *this* empire fell March 4, 2008 - the night McCain got the nomination. Because that mean it was gonna be him, Her, or the shitstain. Soros, Soros, or Soros.

I knew it, and I mourned.

And who was all-in on McCain in 2008...? Our "friends" at Fox News.

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (c6ma9)

230 Starring Bill Clinton as Caligula.

Posted by: ShainS




Starring Bill Clinton as Empress Catherine the Great.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2020 07:52 PM (BM2fS)

231 BC and I get into an actual screaming at each other fight on the podcast

because I think Erick Erickson is a smarmy piece of shit and BC

doesn't. I stand by my view though I do feel badly for yelling at BC.


Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:35 PM (GbPPJ)


Come sit next to me and I'll scream with you. We have a "conservative Christian" friend who is a former Army Ranger who loves him some Erick Erickson. My husband sends me shit from him and I run around the house yelling and scaring the two kittens.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:52 PM (ptqGC)

232 Papa Daley gave him what he needed.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:52 PM (zr5Kq)

233 @182
there's an interesting story about the man with the black umbrella, who opened his umbrella in the Zapruder film, just before the shooting started. It sure looks like a signal. (It was a hot day in dallas--no rain)
It turned out he was a British spy-person, but said his opening of the umbrella was in "protest" because "Kennedy was like Chamberlain" (meaning he was an appeaser) and Chamberlain always carried a black umbrella.
so the Warren commission decided, "sounds plausible; nothing to see here."

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:52 PM (AwPyG)

234 >so, who killed JFK ?
Posted by: runner



1st draft of the Warren report said it was a drunk driver

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 19, 2020 07:52 PM (iTXRQ)

235 This...is CNN. With plastic blonde whoreskirts we let you peek up.

Posted by: Focks Nooz at November 19, 2020 07:52 PM (ldmQR)

236 CNN's Brianna Keilar stated that the Trump legal team's news conference held this afternoon "is so bananas we can't even bring it to you because it's just so full of BS."

I suppose it's inappropriate for me to dismiss her because her name is Brianna.
Posted by: N.L. Urker



Briana banana fofana

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2020 07:52 PM (0mP7b)

237 211 192 I heard that Queens Gambit was very good right up to when it sucked.
Posted by: dagny,

---> like most things on a streaming service, it has its moments but at one point, you're like "ok so this a straightforward marysue story or does she struggle?"

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at November 19, 2020 07:52 PM (a3Tyz)

238 I cant get the video to play, so I apologize if this has already been discussed. The goal is not necessarily about getting Trump enough votes to win. If enough states don't certify their elections, they can't get electoral votes. If neither side can get to 270 in the EC, Article II, Section 1 kicks in. The election moves to the house. Each state gets ONE vote! I don't know the exact number, but there are a LOT more red states than blue. Then the real fun begins. Dems will go into full riot mode to scare Justice Roberts and Amy Barret Comey to "save the country and prevent civil war". And sadly, it would probably work. Good Times ahead!

Posted by: George at November 19, 2020 07:52 PM (r7uoI)

239
Democrats stole Illinois, via Chicago, in 1960.
Very, very close election.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (nF6gq)

240 164 Rudi pretty much implied that, after the election fight, there are going to be nationwide investigations. Maybe he outright said it, for that matter. A whole lot of people will catch some shit.

many on R side been bought off
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:45 PM (zr5Kq)

Lots of scuttlebutt about GA R governor Kemp somehow getting his palm greased (or family) by quickly approving the Dominion software counting machines, at a cost of $109 million to the taxpayers of GA. And the SoS is allegedly has his hand out, too. Who knows for sure?

Which would explain why Kemp is being silent. He would want to hide away as far as he can.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (sy5kK)

241 @224...Rubin and Cherise, please. Don't be cryptic. It's boring.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (evxBY)

242 What on earth could be the legal reason for a weighted voting system? What legal reason would mandate you build that into your software?

Posted by: Chicago Vota at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (ts6Zs)

243 If 'wearing a mask is Patriotism', then why are Democrats for it?

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (zDVTE)

244 The whole "red mirage" gay ops being disseminated by the MSM, Big Tech, DDHQ, etc. was a huge tell ahead of time that the fix was in, and that they were going to go all in. Also suggests they knew that Trump's actual support was very strong, but it turned out to be quite a bit more solid than even they predicted, hence the 3 AM shutdown.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (L106N)

245 Sex doesn't really happen in the show. The show starts off with a lez tease in the first scene but it's not her lifestyle. It was either a sleepover, or a very forward french strumpet. She sort of just gives it up to a few guys. There's one guy she can't get.

Drugs...not the exciting ones.
Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (a3Tyz)

___

Nah she fucked that French chick.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (22mNy)

246 so, who killed JFK ?
Posted by: runner


Covid-63

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (0mP7b)

247 180 I did not like when Powell implied in that conference that it is unknown who has that server seized in Germany - whether it is "the good guys".
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (zr5Kq)


She didn't imply it she said it.

At least we have solid confirmation that there was a server in Germany.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (CZm2G)

248 BC does listen to him daily.



There's some back story here in that BC and Erickson are friends and
I have reasons why I dislike Erickson intensely. So we are starting in
wildly different places.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (GbPPJ)


Jeebus. I thought carrots in chili was bad. *gives side eye to BC*

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (ptqGC)

249 willowed:
Until this election business is settled, I can't just sit and watch the news, whether biased or otherwise. My heart/anxiety can't take it.

If I'm watching TV it's something off topic to take my mind off of all this. I just watched The Crown season 4. I'm watching The Queen's Gambit right now.

But I'll get my news and discussion from here and Insty mostly. Other than that, I don't even want to hear about "President-Elect" Joe Biden and Trump's "baseless claims."

We're at war.

I can't listen to people lie to me about it.
Posted by: pmurT at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM (/3Et3)


Same here. I cancelled my local rag. Told them I didn't need to pay for Democrat propaganda when I can find all I want for free.

I really fell apart over the weekend with my anger and hatred bubbling over, and so now I am trying to keep on an even keel and not let Stinkfinger and his myrmidons control my mental health.

If I'm going to be depressed, it's because I'm doing it, not someone else.

So.

How about a picture of a pretty girl?

https://tinyurl.com/y6ehj2eg

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (2JVJo)

250 ace, if your hanging around. I have put your request to Chris Salcedo. He has always been very good about getting back to me.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (L+got)

251 242 What on earth could be the legal reason for a weighted voting system? What legal reason would mandate you build that into your software?
Posted by: Chicago Vota at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (ts6Zs)

__

Some Euro countries have weighted voting so I suppose if you want to sell it there, it has to be built in.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (22mNy)

252 I don't know the exact number, but there are a LOT more red states than blue


37 red

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (ySQBZ)

253 Having an R next to name means nothing these days.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (zr5Kq)

254 Biden told us they had an extensive program in place for cheating. Why is everyone surprised?


/also, is that statement admissible in court? Asking for a friend

Posted by: President-Elect Shibumi at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (ZCiJZ)

255 >>so, who killed JFK ?

Lucifer.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (ZLI7S)

256 Georgia is planning on using the Dominion machines for the Senate runoff.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (CZm2G)

257 Here's the rub. Republicans are just as dirty.

Posted by: Damiano

_________________

I don't really buy that. I just think there's enough Republicans that aren't effected, and so don't care and also many just think this is a smaller headwind and greatly underestimate it.

Republicans are so conditioned to just accept we basically have to win by a large margin to actually gain power that they just concede in any close election.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (gkdnV)

258 Sidney Powell said Trump had so many votes the cheat machines couldn't keep up. I hope the truth comes out on these lousy, cheating, traitorous motherfvckers.

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (+ya+t)

259 Starring Bill Clinton as Empress Catherine the Great.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 19, 2020 07:52 PM (BM2fS)


Catherine would have given Slick the painful early death that pervert deserved.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (y7DUB)

260 228 What if all the so called blue states are not at all "blue" but have been manipulated to be blue?

---> more like states with an anchor city with a vote harvesting program.

SCOTUS should...if any of their clerks are reading this exact comment...void all voting consent decrees. No more..."here's the rules but the GOP agrees to let the DNC cheat as much as they want in perpetuity"

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (a3Tyz)

261 it has only been ten business days since Election Day night.

-

I've said it before, but it takes a couple of months to buy land with cash in hand from a seller who wants to sell property he owns and has no loans on.

I have to imagine a coup with elected officials, tech giants, military brass, and international players is a tad more difficult.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (k1L5r)

262 >>West LA Fadeaway is very great.


It's no New Speedway Boogie, that's for fucking sure.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (zDVTE)

263 Repeated for fun:
The white hates in military intel: "Mr. trump, we need you to run for President and save the world. There is literally no one else who can do it."
Trump: "I'm down, let me go ask Melania."

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (AwPyG)

264 255 >>so, who killed JFK ?

Lucifer.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (ZLI7S)

No, it was you and me.

doot de do

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (CZm2G)

265 so, who killed JFK ?
Posted by: runner

Well, did you know that JFK had already signed an executive order taking the printing and creation of money away from the Fed Res, and put it back in the hands of the US Government?

Johnson rescinded that order as soon as he was President.

I always found that.... interesting.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (NgKpN)

266 252 I don't know the exact number, but there are a LOT more red states than blue


37 red
Posted by: dagny, firs

===> that's why we need to decert these votes, force the election to congress's state delegation vote.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (a3Tyz)

267 white hats. sorry!

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (AwPyG)

268 Regarding Powell's position, which she has apparently convinced Rudy of(who was originally acting more skeptical of it as I've been watching a lot of his stuff since they started putting things together), she doesn't need to go to such lengths. Rudy has plenty as far as a legal case goes, why make something up? Maybe she's lost her marbles, but the story she's telling isn't outlandish and we'll find out soon enough.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (Zm+LZ)

269 Vote by mail allows the Post Office to withhold your ballot from you, by deciding not to deliver it. It's more critical than depending on them to deliver the completed ballot as most places have drop boxes. The Post Office should not be allowed to handle any ballots.

Posted by: notsothoreau at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (JKNZq)

270 239
Democrats stole Illinois, via Chicago, in 1960.
Very, very close election.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (nF6gq)

__

Fun fact. Only 2 candidates to EVER win OH and FL but "lose" the election......Nixon in 1960 and Trump in 2020.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (22mNy)

271 Hunter Biden had a steady job.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (PUmDY)

272 238 I cant get the video to play, so I apologize if this has already been discussed. The goal is not necessarily about getting Trump enough votes to win. If enough states don't certify their elections, they can't get electoral votes. If neither side can get to 270 in the EC, Article II, Section 1 kicks in. The election moves to the house. Each state gets ONE vote! I don't know the exact number, but there are a LOT more red states than blue. Then the real fun begins. Dems will go into full riot mode to scare Justice Roberts and Amy Barret Comey to "save the country and prevent civil war". And sadly, it would probably work. Good Times ahead!
Posted by: George at November 19, 2020 07:52 PM (r7uoI)

IIRC, 26 R state houses, 22 D state houses, 2 mixed.
And the existing state houses vote, not the incoming new ones elected two weeks ago.
If that happened, there would be 27 R houses.

And R state houses in every one of the swing states.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (sy5kK)

273 Are you comparing Sidney Powell to Adam Schiff? Because, and I'm not a lawyer or as smart as you, but that seems a little ridiculous. Do you really think she would put her reputation on the line if she didn't have something to back it up. Also, realizing I'm risking my life here
Posted by: spypeach at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (Up/Jb)


I have all this evidence that proves everything I am saying is true and you must believe me and no you can't see it is exactly what Schiff said for years about Russia Russia Russia. The technique is the same.

Now, if it's true that suit is being filed, then, fine, there we go. But time is very much running out and my Sources Say loathing is most intense for the things I most want to believe.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (GbPPJ)

274 "So who killed JFK?"


https://youtu.be/GgnClrx8N2k

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 19, 2020 07:56 PM (uZ3Nc)

275 The whole "red mirage" gay ops being disseminated by the MSM, Big Tech, DDHQ, etc. was a huge tell ahead of time that the fix was in, and that they were going to go all in. Also suggests they knew that Trump's actual support was very strong, but it turned out to be quite a bit more solid than even they predicted, hence the 3 AM shutdown.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (L106N)

Exactly right. They already told us they were planning to rig it (red mirage, my foot). Trump did so much better than expected that they had to resort to stoopid levels of rigging.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (It's not over folks!) at November 19, 2020 07:56 PM (9hauA)

276
Last account I had McSally had not conceded.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at November 19, 2020 07:38 PM (puu6v)

_________


She conceded on or before we first heard the news on November 13:

https://tinyurl.com/y278vr94

Posted by: ShainS at November 19, 2020 07:56 PM (WqPYg)

277 N.L. Urker: "I suppose it's inappropriate for me to dismiss her because her name is Brianna."

Nah. But you can dismiss her even sooner because it's CNN. Names are immaterial.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 19, 2020 07:56 PM (HhXSr)

278 I am listening to the Sharpe books and my mental health is better for it

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 19, 2020 07:56 PM (dKiJG)

279 258 Sidney Powell said Trump had so many votes the cheat machines couldn't keep up. I hope the truth comes out on these lousy, cheating, traitorous motherfvckers.
Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (+ya+t)

The nation just wasn't that into critical race theory?

Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 19, 2020 07:56 PM (ONvIw)

280 @224...Rubin and Cherise, please. Don't be cryptic. It's boring.
Posted by: occam's brassiere

Honeztly, when Rudy was talking and sweating, I was thinking of th line from Cats under the Stars....
"Anyone who sweats like that must be alright"

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at November 19, 2020 07:56 PM (lIDCz)

281
LBJ stole his senate election

Posted by: Chicago Vota



Heard or read somewhere it was his congressional run when he won by 200 more votes than there were voters. Hence his moniker "Landslide Lyndon".

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (oR71r)

282 227 JFK stole the 1960 election, right?

Posted by: MJ at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (gAMkn)

yes
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:51 PM (zr5Kq)

This article says that Nixon too the "high road" and didn't challenge it. A little more than a decade later the Democrats had no such scruples.

https://nypost.com/2000/11/10/ironic-twist-daleys-dad-helped-steal-vote-for-jfk/

57 thousand dead US troops for Nixon's high road.

Posted by: College Professor at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (BJKQV)

283 247 180 I did not like when Powell implied in that conference that it is unknown who has that server seized in Germany - whether it is "the good guys".
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (zr5Kq)


She didn't imply it she said it.

At least we have solid confirmation that there was a server in Germany.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 07:53 PM (CZm2G)


She also said (I think it was her) that the Giuliani team doesn't have any visibility into the internal ops of the USGov.

I think what Sidney was alluding to is that there are bad guys and good guys in the USGov, and she doesn't know which bunch have the server.

Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (NiXyF)

284 Let's just hope Biden isn't playing the part of Von Hindenburg

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (ySQBZ)

285 Do you really think she would put her reputation on the line if she didn't have something to back it up.

It's clear enough that Powell believes what she is saying. And Rudy's willingness to be on stage while she made her case gives me pause too; he's willing to put his considerable reputation behind it. But Powell's portion of that press conference is going to require a great deal of evidence to support it precisely because the conspiracy she's talking about is huge.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (H5knJ)

286 I thought the Queens Gambit was pretty good with just a couple of slow plot points. Nothing really bothered me.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (r+sAi)

287 The whole "red mirage" gay ops being disseminated by the MSM, Big Tech, DDHQ, etc. was a huge tell ahead of time that the fix was in, and that they were going to go all in.

-

The CEO of the DNC's internet arm (HawkFish) came out an said exactly what was going to happen in late August. The video is still online. "It's going to look like a Trump landslide on election night, but after a week or so passes and we count all the votes..."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (k1L5r)

288
NEWSMAX is happening

AP: "Trump-friendly Newsmax seeks to cut into Fox's viewership."

Tucker, follow Greg Kelly's lead, make a mark.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (zr5Kq)

289 >>so, who killed JFK ?



Lucifer.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (ZLI7S)


Well after all, it was you and me.

Posted by: What's my name? at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (2N7oZ)

290 WHO KILLED MARILYN?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC0jTrAoXN4

Posted by: THE MISFITS at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (zDVTE)

291 nah she fucked that french chick

---> I'd say they left that open to interpretation. Perhaps Frenchie was of that way since she was more worldly than Beth.

I suppose the show did make chess interesting. so that's cool.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (a3Tyz)

292
Georgia is planning on using the Dominion machines for the Senate runoff.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 07:54 PM (CZm2G)


Fuck Kemp, Stacey Abrams, and Ratshitberger to hell. Kemp is dumb as a rock, turned on Trump after PDT campaigned for him, and is neck deep (with Ratshit) in Dominion graft.

I've spoken to my local rep, emailed my state reps, senators, etc. I feel helpless at this point.

I'm mad as hell, and a shit ton of Georgians are as well. As far as the transplants gloating on Nextdoor, go fuck yourselves. DIAF.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (ptqGC)

293 206 so, who killed JFK ?
Posted by: runner

Maggie Simpson.

Posted by: President Elect Lebron Horowitz at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (UFgOG)

294
If we had an honest media this would already be over.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (ZLI7S)

Case closed, then.

What would happen was signaled to us for months. The last-minute election law changes. Millions of unsolicited mail-in ballots. Nervous calls for people to vote for Biden at the last minute when the magnitude of his upcoming loss suddenly came into focus. None of it was a surprise, and the propaganda outlets helped shape the narrative into something that seemed innocent and cautious.

I don't think the propaganda worked, though. Republicans aren't the only ones who realize this was a stolen election. So we have arrived at the place where an illegitimate government may be menacing a hostile populace and demanding it not notice things.

Just horrible.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at November 19, 2020 07:58 PM (puu6v)

295 Time is a stripper doing it just for you is a good lyric.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 19, 2020 07:58 PM (PUmDY)

296 vocabulary bleg: someone invented a Latin word for "gun haters", but i can't remember what it is.... HELP!

(#firstworld problem)

Posted by: redc1c4 TRUMP WON! at November 19, 2020 07:58 PM (omAHa)

297
Gambling houses have so far refused to pay off on the "Biden for President-elect" bets.

As always, Follow the Money.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 07:58 PM (sy5kK)

298 []Here's the rub. Republicans are just as dirty.



Posted by: Damiano

If so, they're terrible at it.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2020 07:58 PM (v16oJ)

299 What on earth could be the legal reason for a weighted voting system? What legal reason would mandate you build that into your software?

Posted by: Chicago Vota


Shareholder meetings. Your vote can be weighted by number of shares you own or number of proxies you represent.

Posted by: Adriane the Dang, I'm Old TV Critic ... at November 19, 2020 07:58 PM (LPnfS)

300 204 > I know this election was stolen. What I really want to learn is how long has this been going on and how extensive has it been.



I think there has been election fraud for as long as there have been elections
Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 19, 2020 07:49 PM (iTXRQ)



that's true but it's been much more systematic the last couple of decades

Posted by: Shoey at November 19, 2020 07:58 PM (hmNVd)

301 what's a Queens Gambit ? I need to rewatch first few seasons of The Last Kingdom to get into the 4th.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:59 PM (zr5Kq)

302 265 so, who killed JFK ?
Posted by: runner

Well, did you know that JFK had already signed an executive order taking the printing and creation of money away from the Fed Res, and put it back in the hands of the US Government?

Johnson rescinded that order as soon as he was President.

I always found that.... interesting.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (NgKpN)

The Federal Reserve doesn't print money(except in the sense which all banks create money). The Federal Reserve is a banking cartel in the literal sense, created by the government, though not made of government entities but by the banks who are required by law to partake in it. Yes, it controls the money supply. No, it doesn't actually create the physical currency.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 19, 2020 07:59 PM (Zm+LZ)

303 ocabulary bleg: someone invented a Latin word for "gun haters", but i can't remember what it is.... HELP!

(#firstworld problem)
Posted by: redc1c4 TRUMP WON!



slaves ?

Posted by: Adriane the Dang, I'm Old TV Critic ... at November 19, 2020 07:59 PM (LPnfS)

304 Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery

Fagettery?

I give you...the Fagettes:


https://youtu.be/K7isRhOrxvA

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 19, 2020 07:59 PM (rBtIz)

305 Then the real fun begins. Dems will go into full riot mode to scare Justice Roberts and Amy Barret Comey to "save the country and prevent civil war". And sadly, it would probably work. Good Times ahead!
Posted by: George

---> no, please don't burn down your own cities. And your army of fake people who didn't vote is scary.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (a3Tyz)

306 Yes, it controls the money supply. No, it doesn't actually create the physical currency.

That would be North Korea.

Posted by: pep at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (v16oJ)

307 @294
"So we have arrived at the place where an illegitimate government may be
menacing a hostile populace and demanding it not notice things.
"
The second amendment is supposed to prevent the menacing. so we'll see.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (AwPyG)

308
vocabulary bleg: someone invented a Latin word for "gun haters", but i can't remember what it is.... HELP!

(#firstworld problem)
Posted by: redc1c4 TRUMP WON!


hopolophobes

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (kioLb)

309 Did someone say RICO?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8_f3kJOX_8

Posted by: Senor Suave at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (xxG/v)

310 vocabulary bleg: someone invented a Latin word for "gun haters", but i can't remember what it is.... HELP!

(#firstworld problem)
Posted by: redc1c4


Hopolophobe.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (0mP7b)

311 And R state houses in every one of the swing states.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (sy5kK)

Which is why I really can't believe the vote totals.

First thing I'd do is look REALLY hard and investigate every 'vote' that was ONLY for President.

I don't know ANYONE who would take the time to vote, and then not fill out the whole ballot (or at least a large portion of it).

And I know VERY VERY few people, who would vote for one party in State elections, but a different party for Fed elections.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (NgKpN)

312 What if all the so called blue states are not at all "blue" but have been manipulated to be blue?


_________



What if instead of winning a dozen House seats, we really won two or three or four dozen (if Trump was crushing it in a 400+ EV win)? And how many Senate seats were stolen?

Posted by: ShainS at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (WqPYg)

313 I find it hilarious that leftist Twats still think Fox new is right wing.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (22mNy)

314
I think what Sidney was alluding to is that there are bad guys and good guys in the USGov, and she doesn't know which bunch have the server.
Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (NiXyF)

That's nice...

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (zr5Kq)

315 >>> CNN's Brianna Keilar stated that the Trump legal team's news conference held this afternoon "is so bananas we can't even bring it to you because it's just so full of BS."
.....

Remember when a politician would say something stupid and entirely false and the media would air it, unedited and in full, then show results of their investigations, present opposing facts, and let their viewers decide?

Good times.

Posted by: Damiano at November 19, 2020 08:01 PM (YDPU/)

316 It's clear enough that Powell believes what she is saying. And Rudy's willingness to be on stage while she made her case gives me pause too; he's willing to put his considerable reputation behind it. But Powell's portion of that press conference is going to require a great deal of evidence to support it precisely because the conspiracy she's talking about is huge.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

_______________

If it wasn't for her, I would have written all of this off. I would just say it's Trump being Trump, sort of like him saying he's the best President since Abe Lincoln, etc.

But that also sort of gives me pause that I'm even entertaining this because of one person I sort of know.

I mean, 8 years ago, I thought Mitt Romney was a genuinely good and decent person. I just thought he was too meek. Shows what I know.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 08:01 PM (gkdnV)

317 I find it hilarious that leftist Twats still think Fox new is right wing.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (22mNy)


lol, let them

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 08:01 PM (zr5Kq)

318 Now, if it's true that suit is being filed, then, fine, there we go. But time is very much running out and my Sources Say loathing is most intense for the things I most want to believe.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (GbPPJ)

Well I don't think that she has been going on and on for the last 4 years about bullshit, I think she starts at a better place than Shifty as far as trust goes, she's not running for office and has nothing to gain from this. So why do you think she would go out on limb here if you don't think she has the evidence to back it up?

Posted by: spypeach at November 19, 2020 08:01 PM (Up/Jb)

319 303 ocabulary bleg: someone invented a Latin word for "gun haters", but i can't remember what it is.... HELP!

(#firstworld problem)
Posted by: redc1c4 TRUMP WON!



Hoplophobe?

Posted by: Smash'em at November 19, 2020 08:01 PM (YdDaK)

320 >>>
295 Time is a stripper doing it just for you is a good lyric.

Apropos of nothing, my favorite stripper name title is
" The Red Headed Riot"

Posted by: President Elect Lebron Horowitz at November 19, 2020 08:01 PM (UFgOG)

321 hopolophobes
Posted by: AltonJackson



Missed it by _ that much.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2020 08:01 PM (0mP7b)

322 301 what's a Queens Gambit ?

___

Chess move.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 08:01 PM (22mNy)

323 Time is a stripper doing it just for you is a good lyric.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie

Well....You aint nowhere till you can pay your own way baxk

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (lIDCz)

324 If we had an honest media this would already be over.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (ZLI7S)

Case closed, then.

What would happen was signaled to us for months.

--

Someone posted an outstanding video of a speaker at Hillsdale College earlier today. A Hillary supporter who was studying search engine manipulation. He speculated that it could influence something like 14M votes, and that Google had notes from a meeting leaked where they were openly discussing how to shape humanity (not society, mind you) with their company values. Very disturbing speech.

Something that was interesting was that his researchers saw that only the liberal researchers on the team were receiving "GO VOTE!!!" reminders.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (k1L5r)

325 @302
I think the fed reserve allowed for unaccounted-for slush funds made up of taxpayer dollars.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (AwPyG)

326 My husband arrived home tonight and said he wanted to have a serious conversation with me.

He began with, "You need to calm down."

I'll let the horde imagine how that went.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (ptqGC)

327
vocabulary bleg: someone invented a Latin word for "gun haters", but i can't remember what it is.... HELP!

(#firstworld problem)


Posted by: redc1c4 TRUMP WON! at November 19, 2020 07:58 PM (omAHa)

Smallis dic*^?
You are probably thinking of hoplophobe. I Think is is Greek or invented Greek.

Posted by: Quint at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (ZbBR3)

328
Missed it by _ that much.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2020 08:01 PM


at least we spelt it the same way

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (kioLb)

329 It's the oligarch overlords that are driving the coup.

Where there's a whip there's a way...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/lh9rqtp

Posted by: davidt at November 19, 2020 08:03 PM (l3+k2)

330 The amusing part of all this is the sheer brazenness of the cheating.

I mean, did these people cheat this massively because they think they can get away with it, or did they cheat out of fear of repercussions from their own side?

I can seriously see where someone with clout could have received assurances the election was in the bag, then, as it moved into blowout territory, someone panicked, because they feared their side more than getting caught.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at November 19, 2020 08:03 PM (WEBkv)

331 I think what Sidney was alluding to is that there are bad guys and good guys in the USGov, and she doesn't know which bunch have the server.
Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (NiXyF)

That's nice...
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (zr5Kq)


When the subject of the FBI came up, I believe in a question, Rudy laughed. He also said the we may need to replace them with something else.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 19, 2020 08:03 PM (AiZBA)

332 206, that was JR, and it was just a dream!

Posted by: Nobody at November 19, 2020 08:03 PM (giU8k)

333 re How long have we been having stolen elections?

Wheeling and dealing has been happening probably since the foundation of our Republic, back when electors really were "electors." The 1876 election ended on a backroom deal "GOP ends Reconstruction for the White House."

Obviously Kennedy and Johnson stole Texas and Illinois.

But that was the era of old school ballot box stuffing. Looking at the elections that followed 1960 there really wasn't a need for it. Johnson was blowing out Goldwater in 64. Nixon had it easy in 68 and 72. 76 was close but the "metrics" and the "mood" was all the Democrats way after Watergate. 80, 84, and 88 didn't need a rigging anymore than 64 did. If anyone was going to rig 92 it would have been Mr. CIA. Clinton wasn't going to lose to Dole, and of all the talk that 2000 got, no one ever even whispered about ballot box stuffing in that race.

After that, however, we moved from the era of simple low-fi rigging to our modern era of hi-fi rigging.

Screwing with the voting machines probably didn't start until 2004 or so. I remember the Dems screaming about the Diebold machines rigging it for Bush. We all shrugged it off as lunacy but in light of all this...maybe? It was the middle of the war, the Neocons were running the country. I can see them pulling a "for the good of the country" and helping W. win.

08? They may have pumped up the numbers but Obama was always going beat McCain. That being said, the Dems won 60 Senate seats that year, so maybe.

2012? Oh yeah. I don't know if it was enough to give Romney the win, but I bet they had the means to give Obama a slight boost across the board, to lift him over the top.

2016? Yep. For sure. Trump beat the margin of fraud, as they say, and Hillary couldn't challenge because she knew the recounts would only ADD Trump votes (as we saw in Jill Stein's aborted Michigan recount).

2020 is where we are today. It was the same as in 2016 except Trump beat the margin so substantially the Democrats were looking at a blowout, a bloodbath, a one-party smackdown the likes of which they've never seen before. So, instead of accepting their loss like in 2016, they did what they didn't do in 2016: They stopped the count, and went back to old fashioned ballot box stuffing. Doing that on top of the other fraud triggered a million alarms.

So here we are: Democrats are like the prisoners who have broken out of Alcatraz. They're in a bot riddled with holes, paddling as fast as they can, hoping to reach the mainland before they sink. And they only have so many fingers and Jeffrey Toobin chodes to plug the holes.

And in the darkness, booming from the island behind them, a voice from Queens, NY shouts:

"You tell em I'm comin' and the Kraken's coming with me!"

Posted by: pmurT at November 19, 2020 08:03 PM (/3Et3)

334 296 vocabulary bleg: someone invented a Latin word for "gun haters", but i can't remember what it is.... HELP!

(#firstworld problem)
Posted by: redc1c4 TRUMP WON! at November 19, 2020 07:58 PM (omAHa)

Hoplophobes? Hoplophobia is an unnatural fear of weapons.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 19, 2020 08:04 PM (H3MF8)

335 313-
That's the weird thing- the left is gloating over Fox's ratings plunge, but they seem genuinely ignorant of what occurred. They think all the people that were not watching Fox and Friends were watching Morning Joe.

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 19, 2020 08:04 PM (AD3JT)

336 I really enjoyed The Queens Gambit, ya this season of The Crown was weak. I'm looking forward to next week, Hillbilly Elegy starts.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 19, 2020 08:04 PM (J+CnC)

337 9 And so it begins.
Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (Uhu8A)

This makes me chuckle every single time. Thank you, sir.

Posted by: toddg at November 19, 2020 08:04 PM (PoO61)

338 Is it true they are still counting on AZ? If so, anybody involved needs to be fired and never be involved in elections again

Posted by: Comrade dude in MI at November 19, 2020 08:04 PM (/6GbT)

339 I think what Sidney was alluding to is that there are bad guys and good guys in the USGov, and she doesn't know which bunch have the server.
Posted by: filbert


I thought she was supposed to be smart?

If you are the good guys, and you don't know?
You don't have them.

Supposedly, a special forces team has them.
That the CiC doesn't know, means they don't have it.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2020 08:04 PM (0mP7b)

340 Gambling houses have so far refused to pay off on the "Biden for President-elect" bets.

As always, Follow the Money.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 07:58 PM (sy5kK)

-

Related: I'm always amazed at how accurate the gamblers are at predicting what the final score "spread" will be in college football games. Crazy stuff. Blowouts, and then the 4th string comes in and the gamblers get it right. It's really incredible.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at November 19, 2020 08:04 PM (k1L5r)

341 the thing is is, if you are writing comments that extend over a page, you need your own damn site.

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (4Jold)

342 i liked Queens Gambit a lot

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (nUhF0)

343 Jenna Ellis on Newsmax.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (cF8AT)

344 When the subject of the FBI came up, I believe in a
question, Rudy laughed. He also said the we may need to replace them
with something else.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 19, 2020 08:03 PM (AiZBA)


I'm seriously worried about Rudy being taken out. We're living old school Soviet Union times. Everyone on the left is laughing their asses off (Meghan McCain, you bitch, I'm looking at you) at his sweating and hair dye running, but I honestly was worried he'd have a stroke or heart attack. He was that intense and angry.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (ptqGC)

345 Apropos of nothing:

- PDT leaves nothing to chance.
- PDT saw this coming at least 3 years ago.
- PDT declared a national emergency and issued an EO to cover the contingencies of voter fraud 2 years ago. Plenty of time for the cheaters to know not to cheat.
- PDT assembled the best legal team available to litigate the voter fraud. This means other people must do the right thing. Read that as doing everything by the book per standard procedures.

- If other people do not do their duty, PDT has the EO which he can execute to stop the fraud.

- Interestingly, if other people do the right thing PDT still has the EO which he can execute.

Either way, when PDT invokes the EO, he catches a shit ton of bad guys, in D.C. and around the country. The swamp will be drained.

Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (2El4P)

346 I think what Sidney was alluding to is that there are bad guys and good guys in the USGov, and she doesn't know which bunch have the server.
Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (NiXyF)

That's nice...
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (zr5Kq)


Or, you know, she DOES know and isn't telling.

(Cue Twilight Zone and/or X-Files theme)

Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (NiXyF)

347 If we had an honest media this would already be over.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (ZLI7S)

This dishonesty does not require everyone on this blog, or elsewhere for that matter, to don some legal hat and suggest that unless proof is clearly shown, as in they type presented in a court of law, no one should believe it! That's crazy...

For some folks here, if you found a child in front of a broken cookie jar and crumbs around its mouth, you were loudly declare that, since no one saw what happened, who knows what happened with those purloined cookies?

Can we just cut that type of dopey "where's da proof?" stuff when we're talking amongst ourselves...unless you really don't believe that those cookies were eaten by the crumbly child or that dems stole this election...then you really need to seek out other sites that offer therapy.

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (w2LAm)

348 It's now very clear to me that polling served two purposes:
1. To shape opinion (as Rush would say)2. To gather data in determining the minimum amount of weighting to apply to votes in order to tip the election to Biden.
There were probably two sets of polling numbers. #1 were made public, #2 were not.
Things went off the rails for them when their estimates of vote weights was way off (Trump landslide). I believe the polls were off because many of us told them we were for Biden.
I also believe that the first (major) run of this was back in 2016. That is why they were so shocked they lost in 2016. They picked the wrong state(s) to apply the fraud.
This time they overreached and the landslide numbers blew the whole thing up.

Posted by: Thomas Alva Tesla at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (xqmCG)

349 Well I don't think that she has been going on and on for the last 4 years about bullshit, I think she starts at a better place than Shifty as far as trust goes, she's not running for office and has nothing to gain from this. So why do you think she would go out on limb here if you don't think she has the evidence to back it up?
Posted by: spypeach at November 19, 2020 08:01 PM (Up/Jb)


I am not saying she doesn't.

But I will NOT fucking trust Sources Say. I won't. I shouldn't.

NO ONE SHOULD.

Until she reveals the evidence, it is nothing more or less than Sources Say.

I'm sorry, I don't know how much clearer to make it that this has nothing to do with Powell and her trustworthiness. It has everything to do with the fact that Sources Say is a lie from the pits of hell until the Source is named and the evidence is revealed.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (GbPPJ)

350 I originally thought Dems cheated just enough to get a few thousand vote wins in GA and PA. But now? Fuck, I'm open to the idea that it was millions of votes. If you can make software change 100 votes, you can make that same software change 10M votes. It's the same amount of effort.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 08:06 PM (22mNy)

351 The Federal Reserve doesn't print money(except in the sense which all banks create money). The Federal Reserve is a banking cartel in the literal sense, created by the government, though not made of government entities but by the banks who are required by law to partake in it. Yes, it controls the money supply. No, it doesn't actually create the physical currency.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 19, 2020 07:59 PM (Zm+LZ)

Actually, it tells Treasury how much to print.

And has the ability to 'create' money even without Fractional Lending (like most banks already do).

It was the whole basis of 'quantitative easing' that we went through for years.

They created 'dollars' from nothing, and loaned them out at almost no interest, then being repaid once those dollars had churned through the system.

Compared to the number of dollars in the system, the physical money has been a smaller and smaller percentage, since the 1950s.

Now? It's almost nothing.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2020 08:06 PM (NgKpN)

352 325 @302
I think the fed reserve allowed for unaccounted-for slush funds made up of taxpayer dollars.
Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (AwPyG)

It was created to take the role JP Morgan played in handling a couple financial crashes by bailing out the banks. Historically, it doesn't ever seem to have done a good job of that role and began messing with interest rates and trying to manipulate inflation instead.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 19, 2020 08:06 PM (Zm+LZ)

353 When the subject of the FBI came up, I believe in a question, Rudy laughed. He also said the we may need to replace them with something else.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 19, 2020 08:03 PM (AiZBA)


they tried after 9/11; we got Homeland Security if you recall.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 08:06 PM (zr5Kq)

354 I think what Sidney was alluding to is that there are bad guys and good guys in the USGov, and she doesn't know which bunch have the server.
Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 07:57 PM (NiXyF)

That's nice...
Posted by: runner



or she was being nice and avoiding saying "that's stupid."

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 19, 2020 08:06 PM (4Jold)

355 Said it before and will say it again. Sidney Powell is putting up her life, her fortune and her Sacred Honor. This is no posturing for her. She is dead ass serious.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2020 08:06 PM (L+got)

356 "So we have arrived at the place where an illegitimate government may be
menacing a hostile populace and demanding it not notice things.
"
The second amendment is supposed to prevent the menacing. so we'll see.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (AwPyG)

Prevent? Nah.

Permanently rectify.

It was good enough for George Washington and the boys, it's good enough for me.

A fun experiment I do on occasion: Read the Declaration of Independence and try to find something that isn't equally or more relevant to our current times.

Posted by: Damiano at November 19, 2020 08:06 PM (YDPU/)

357 Currently watching Richard Jewel on HBO Max. Disturbingly accurate depiction of the media and FBI. The incident was a major red flag we just ignored.

Posted by: Tommyboy at November 19, 2020 08:07 PM (HU93f)

358 326 My husband arrived home tonight and said he wanted to have a serious conversation with me.

He began with, "You need to calm down."

I'll let the horde imagine how that went.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (ptqGC)

When's the wake?

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:07 PM (cF8AT)

359 For some folks here, if you found a child in front of a broken cookie jar and crumbs around its mouth, you were loudly declare that, since no one saw what happened, who knows what happened with those purloined cookies?

Can we just cut that type of dopey "where's da proof?" stuff when we're talking amongst ourselves...unless you really don't believe that those cookies were eaten by the crumbly child or that dems stole this election...then you really need to seek out other sites that offer therapy.
Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (w2LAm)



You know the crumbs are, what's the word, evidence, right? You do know that, right?

Bless. Your. Fucking. Heart. No, seriously, fuck you.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:07 PM (GbPPJ)

360 Don't old back Jane. Many of us feel the same way.

Posted by: Infidel at November 19, 2020 08:07 PM (QoPXA)

361 >>He began with, "You need to calm down."


"OW! My Balls!...", he continued.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 08:07 PM (zDVTE)

362 'm sorry, I don't know how much clearer to make it that this has nothing to do with Powell and her trustworthiness. It has everything to do with the fact that Sources Say is a lie from the pits of hell until the Source is named and the evidence is revealed.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM

I get that, we are all impatiently waiting for something, but I don't think it's unfair to give these people a little time to put their ducks in a row.

Posted by: spypeach at November 19, 2020 08:08 PM (Up/Jb)

363 Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (GbPPJ)


Schiff didn't have sworn affidavits.


Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 08:08 PM (CZm2G)

364 >If this all fully comes to light and finally gets dealt with effectively, I expect nearly every person in elected office, from the local dog catcher to several presidents to be implicated some greater or lesser extent. This is also why I have a lot of doubts that it will ever fully come to light and get effectively dealt with.

Think about it for a moment. If the full scope and breadth of this comes out in court and is proven beyond a reasonable doubt, everything for the past several decades falls. Everything.

Posted by: Damiano at November 19, 2020 07:49 PM (YDPU/)

I think you're right. If these assertions by Trump's team turn out to be even half-true, we've got the biggest scandal in American history. Much bigger than the 2016, which was yuge. Possibly the most consequential thing to ever happen to the country.

No matter which way shakes out, the country will never be anywhere near the same again.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 19, 2020 08:08 PM (L106N)

365 Let's talk Special Forces raiding a server in Germany.

This either happened or it didn't.

If you don't good guys or bad guys then you don't know.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2020 08:08 PM (ZfRYq)

366 Note to self: Shut up. AtC is not happy tonight.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 19, 2020 08:08 PM (AiZBA)

367 I think there has been election fraud for as long as there have been elections

*********

I was gonna say 1960 but 1877 was a real doozy.

Posted by: If it werent for bad luck Id have no luck at all at November 19, 2020 08:09 PM (8YFRI)

368 I have all this evidence that proves everything I am saying is true and you must believe me and no you can't see it is exactly what Schiff said for years about Russia Russia Russia. The technique is the same.

Now, if it's true that suit is being filed, then, fine, there we go. But time is very much running out and my Sources Say loathing is most intense for the things I most want to believe.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (GbPPJ)

Although you always make good points, every now and again, you and I align just perfectly.

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 08:09 PM (c6ma9)

369 I'll repeat the tweet from PDT's fired cybersecurity idiot up thread:

Chris Krebs: "That press conference was the most dangerous 1 hr 45 minutes of television in American history. And possibly the craziest."

Scared, Chris?



Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:09 PM (ptqGC)

370 Not a lot to be happy about.

Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 08:09 PM (zr5Kq)

371 @347
there's plenty of proof. Real, court room proof
See what the #1 comment says.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:09 PM (AwPyG)

372 My husband arrived home tonight and said he wanted to have a serious conversation with me.

He began with, "You need to calm down."

I'll let the horde imagine how that went.
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (ptqGC)


He might as well have started with, "Your sister's better at this."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 19, 2020 08:09 PM (2JVJo)

373 He began with, "You need to calm down."

I'll let the horde imagine how that went.


Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (ptqGC)

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 08:09 PM (CZm2G)

374 I'm with you Ben Had.

Posted by: Nobody at November 19, 2020 08:09 PM (giU8k)

375 >> Note to self: Shut up. AtC is not happy tonight.


She's so much funto poke when she's like this though.


So tiny. So furious.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 08:09 PM (zDVTE)

376 Meh. 2 weeks. yet again.

Posted by: Dingbat at November 19, 2020 08:10 PM (9fkr3)

377 sorry, the #1 from last post, the poll watcher's declaration.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:10 PM (AwPyG)

378 How many states with multiple leftist shithole cities are still "red"?

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 08:10 PM (c6ma9)

379 She's so much funto poke when she's like this though.


So tiny. So furious.
Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 08:09 PM (zDVTE)


*bites garrett's ankles a lot*

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:10 PM (GbPPJ)

380 I am not saying she doesn't.

But I will NOT fucking trust Sources Say. I won't. I shouldn't.

NO ONE SHOULD.

Until she reveals the evidence, it is nothing more or less than Sources Say.

I'm sorry, I don't know how much clearer to make it that this has nothing to do with Powell and her trustworthiness. It has everything to do with the fact that Sources Say is a lie from the pits of hell until the Source is named and the evidence is revealed.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and
fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (GbPPJ)

I think they're saying 'sworn affidavits say'...not 'sources say'.

I wouldn't want my lawyers to present all the evidence they have to present those details on TV. I want them to present them in court. Would you, as an attorney in a high profile case present all your evidence, in detail, to the media?

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:10 PM (cF8AT)

381 Hoplophobia - Jeff Cooper.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (oCSe1)

382 And so it begins.
Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at November 19, 2020 07:24 PM (Uhu8A)

This makes me chuckle every single time. Thank you, sir.
Posted by: toddg at November 19, 2020 08:04 PM (PoO61)


I miss That Guy Who Always Yells "EN FUEGO!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (2JVJo)

383 Watching Richard Jewell and Waco will certainly get you into the right mindset of the people that occupy the fbi.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (r+sAi)

384 My husband arrived home tonight and said he wanted to have a serious conversation with me.

He began with, "You need to calm down."

I'll let the horde imagine how that went.
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (ptqGC)
-----------------

He handed you a bottle of Tito's as he said that, right?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (WEBkv)

385 @ 349 AtC-

I completely agree.

I'm curious on your lawyerly opinion: Is, "I'm keeping my power dry for court" etc. bullshit or legit?

It sounds like it makes sense but we've all become accustomed to everything being tried in the court of public opinion and aired out by wannabe celebrity lawyers on CNN.

Posted by: Damiano at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (YDPU/)

386 My husband arrived home tonight and said he wanted to have a serious conversation with me.

He began with, "You need to calm down."

I'll let the horde imagine how that went.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh



Oh snap! I'm so glad I'm in Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (0mP7b)

387 He began with, "You need to calm down."

I'll let the horde imagine how that went.
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (ptqGC)

I don't even bother with that anymore. I just go straight to the belt.

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (c6ma9)

388 Note to self: Shut up. AtC is not happy tonight.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 19, 2020 08:08 PM (AiZBA)

--

Short fuse.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (q8U4k)

389 Tucker threw Sidney under the bus. He asked her to come in and show some evidence. She asked them to stop contacting her.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (NXGjq)

390 The afternoon talk show on the local radio station has gone full progtard, I had to turn it of before I ragestroked.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (qZdIZ)

391 1876 I mean.

PS the way morons are ripping into each other half the commenters will be gone with their middle fingers extended before this is over

We must hang together...

Posted by: If it werent for bad luck Id have no luck at all at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (8YFRI)

392 Someone posted an outstanding video of a speaker at
Hillsdale College earlier today. A Hillary supporter who was studying
search engine manipulation. He speculated that it could influence
something like 14M votes, and that Google had notes from a meeting
leaked where they were openly discussing how to shape humanity (not
society, mind you) with their company values. Very disturbing speech.



Something that was interesting was that his researchers saw that
only the liberal researchers on the team were receiving "GO VOTE!!!"
reminders.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden loves young people at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (k1L5r)

__________


Didn't see that, but know it must be Dr. Robert Epstein -- who testified along with Dennis Prager before Ted Cruz's committee in the Senate last July.

Heard him a month ago on Glenn Beck's radio program as well.

Posted by: ShainS at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (WqPYg)

393 Where are the cookie crumbs from the Special Ops server story?

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (ZfRYq)

394 Nagasaki the Democrat Party like its1945.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (6xHaI)

395 I know I'm being "that guy" but how well do we know Sidney Powell?

Look, I hope every word she is saying is true. But people can disappoint.

She seems like the real deal, but I can point to people like Jeff Sessions who had an entire career of basically fighting for the platform Trump ran on and for some reason decided to piss it all away and throw his lot in with the Deep State.

I'm honestly asking how well do we know this person and does she deserve this level of belief?

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (gkdnV)

396 362 'm sorry, I don't know how much clearer to make it that this has nothing to do with Powell and her trustworthiness. It has everything to do with the fact that Sources Say is a lie from the pits of hell until the Source is named and the evidence is revealed.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM

I get that, we are all impatiently waiting for something, but I don't think it's unfair to give these people a little time to put their ducks in a row.
Posted by: spypeach at November 19, 2020 08:08 PM (Up/Jb)

And yet somehow the Whistleblower who set of the Trump impeachment, is still 'he who will not be named'.

The double standard is mindboggling.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (NgKpN)

397 Let's talk Special Forces raiding a server in Germany.

This either happened or it didn't.

If you don't good guys or bad guys then you don't know.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2020 08:08 PM (ZfRYq)


Hmm . . . what was that deal about the deputy SecDef declaring that all "civilian special ops" teams were not going to be under DOD control?

That struck me as being really, really weird at the time.

(X-Files music continues)

Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (NiXyF)

398 I guess I'd better apply a tourniquet to my husband's nearly ripped off arm.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (ptqGC)

399 326 My husband arrived home tonight and said he wanted to have a serious conversation with me.

He began with, "You need to calm down."

I'll let the horde imagine how that went.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh




In fairness, and offered in sincerity, not sure what your husband is seeing, but he is not wrong, nobody is going to win this by losing their shit.

Everybody that is running Trump's team is holding their shit together.

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (4Jold)

400 Tucker is a sellout.

He let Fox muzzle him for money.

Posted by: If it werent for bad luck Id have no luck at all at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (8YFRI)

401 Hysterical screams of "where's the evidence?!?!" are fair enough. Judges and legislators will have the same questions, though perhaps a bit less self dramatically. Rudy and Sidney either have the goods, don't have the goods or, likeliest, have the goods but it won't matter because the entire power structure in the USA has decided it is time for Turmp to go, voters be damned.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (evxBY)

402 35
I don't laugh. Rarely does anyone make me laugh out load.


Depends will help with that.

Posted by: Birkenstock Cowboy at November 19, 2020 08:13 PM (WG2XP)

403 389 Tucker threw Sidney under the bus. He asked her to come in and show some evidence. She asked them to stop contacting her.
Posted by: Jaimo at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (NXGjq)


Who threw who under the bus then?

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2020 08:13 PM (ZfRYq)

404 There goes Tucker. Just flipped on Sidney Powell.

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2020 08:13 PM (+ya+t)

405 I think it's now pretty clear that the "bad guys" are the FBI and the CIA.
And these people are willing to take them on.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:13 PM (AwPyG)

406 @ 223, 345

Because the President's EO also singles out those guilty of "the distribution of propaganda and
disinformation, [which] constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat
to the national security and foreign policy of the United States...


...before this is all over, I expect we'll see massive lawsuits filed against the major news networks.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 19, 2020 08:13 PM (XYHTz)

407 56% said they were better off today than 4 years ago
46% said Trump should concede now

You do the math.

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 08:13 PM (c6ma9)

408 I really fell apart over the weekend with my anger and hatred bubbling over, and so now I am trying to keep on an even keel and not let Stinkfinger and his myrmidons control my mental health.

If I'm going to be depressed, it's because I'm doing it, not someone else.

So.

How about a picture of a pretty girl?

https://tinyurl.com/y6ehj2eg
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing


MP4 -

I don't know if this will help ... I've been doing it to talk myself off the ledge.

I've been making a list of things of political things that I want to help accomplish. Local things. Things like:

OK, Democrats are making noise about canceling student debt ... OK, we citizen petition that the local University can not offer any degree where 50% of the graduates can not get a job in the field.

That kind of thing.

Posted by: Adriane the Dang, I'm Old TV Critic ... at November 19, 2020 08:13 PM (LPnfS)

409 I'm sorry, I don't know how much clearer to make it that this has nothing to do with Powell and her trustworthiness. It has everything to do with the fact that Sources Say is a lie from the pits of hell until the Source is named and the evidence is revealed.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (GbPPJ)

Either you believe that the election was stolen or you don't - AOS isn't a bar exam or a legal hurdle to overcome...I understand that so far no one has presented the legal/IT people here enough "court" proof - but I sure hope that real grown ups aren't fooling themselves that this was an honest election and unless some one stuffs a smoking gun their face, they not changing their minds...

Otherwise, I am sure Fox New website is looking for a few clicks right about now...

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 08:13 PM (w2LAm)

410 365 Let's talk Special Forces raiding a server in Germany.

This either happened or it didn't.

If you don't good guys or bad guys then you don't know.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2020 08:08 PM (ZfRYq)


We don't know it was special forces OR what special force it was.

What we know for sure is that there was a server in Germany with election votes for the President of the United States on/in it and it was retrieved by some US entity.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (CZm2G)

411 389 Tucker threw Sidney under the bus. He asked her to come in and show some evidence. She asked them to stop contacting her.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (NXGjq)

Gosh I wonder why...they only spent all day trashing her and Rudy. JHC.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (cF8AT)

412 the twitter detective who found this said it was not easy to find
Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 07:28 PM (AwPyG)

Her brother is general counsel for Dominion Diagnostics, a health care company. Funny that its also called Dominion, but it doesn't look connected to Dominion Voting Systems.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacam, Pac Bellum) at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (l7Kbv)

413 404 There goes Tucker. Just flipped on Sidney Powell.
Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2020 08:13 PM (+ya+t)


Well, she has climbed way, way, way, WAY out onto that limb.

Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (NiXyF)

414 122 CNN's Brianna Keilar stated that the Trump legal team's news conference held this afternoon "is so bananas we can't even bring it to you because it's just so full of BS."
==========


No, Brianna, it is because you are dumber than a stump in the forest.

What will they say when charges are filed?


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (sy5kK)

415 I listen to sermons on the way to work, news is a joke and talk radio is meh

Posted by: Comrade dude in MI at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (/6GbT)

416 most of us knew four years ago that the Trump/Russia narrative was cooked up by the left, and or DNC/FBI. The media was complicit in driving the false narrative, even paid as Mockingbird Media ... (who is on that list? still secret)

Most of us know there was massive corruption in this election. Just how much can be proven, we don't know yet. It is pretty evident already that they barred watchers and did late night dumps.

There is no comparison to Schiff ... who made false claims, except under oath. At worst Powell and Rudy are overstating the hard evidence ... but we can just look at the side by side rally comparison and the history of Dem cheating in elections.


This is good versus evil, freedom versus submission ... it is not "well they made false claims about Trump, now we are making false claims about Biden". Have we already forgotten the hard drives ... Weiner, Hunter ... and Hillary's smashed evidence.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (Cus5s)

417 378 How many states with multiple leftist shithole cities are still "red"?
Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 08:10 PM (c6ma9)

___

Florida, Texas, Ohio

Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (22mNy)

418 My husband doesn't keep up with the news. Listens to Fox Bidness in his car. Other than that, he keeps up with sports. It's maddening "Where did you hear that? Are you sure? Sounds weird."

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (ptqGC)

419 I guess I'd better apply a tourniquet to my husband's nearly ripped off arm.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (ptqGC)

It doesn't work.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (c6ma9)

420 389 Tucker threw Sidney under the bus. He asked her to come in and show some evidence. She asked them to stop contacting her.

Posted by: Jaimo


Nice Knowin' ya, Tucker.

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (lIDCz)

421 Look, I hope every word she is saying is true. But people can disappoint.

*******

She seemed to me the only effective attorney for Flynn and she was pretty impressive in the documentary The Plot Against The President.

Trump doesnt have a lot of legal allies so I am giving her and Rudy and the rest a lot of slack for going against the grain.

Posted by: If it werent for bad luck Id have no luck at all at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (8YFRI)

422 Either you believe that the election was stolen or you don't - AOS isn't a bar exam or a legal hurdle to overcome...I understand that so far no one has presented the legal/IT people here enough "court" proof - but I sure hope that real grown ups aren't fooling themselves that this was an honest election and unless some one stuffs a smoking gun their face, they not changing their minds...

Otherwise, I am sure Fox New website is looking for a few clicks right about now...
Posted by: B



the thing is is you did not address the fuck off bit.

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (4Jold)

423 138 The MI SoS is now saying that there is no legal mechanism for the canvassing board members to rescind their vote.
Posted by: FloridachickTrump WON at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM

An interesting legal theory (duress and all), but in any case the State Canvassers have to vote to certify. The only difference would be is that they wouldn't also have to investigate the County if it was deemed OK.

Posted by: State > County at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (BBWrU)

424 @395
Powell is the lawyer who turned the Michael Flynn case around, and exposed the prior lawyers and the judge as corrupt.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (AwPyG)

425 >>How many states with multiple leftist shithole cities are still "red"?


We have to kill the Public Funding for Universities.

2/3 of these shithole cities are nothing more than university towns.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (zDVTE)

426 383
Watching Richard Jewell and Waco will certainly get you into the right mindset of the people that occupy the fbi.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (r+sAi)


________


I've never been the same after watching "Waco: The Rules of Engagement." That was the day I REALLY began hating our government masters ...

Posted by: ShainS at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (WqPYg)

427 How many states with multiple leftist shithole cities are still "red"?
Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 08:10 PM (c6ma9)

___

Florida, Texas, Ohio

Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (22mNy)

Cool. Now how many with Democrat governors?

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (c6ma9)

428 What we know for sure is that there was a server in Germany with election votes for the President of the United States on/in it and it was retrieved by some US entity.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (CZm2G)


Do we?

No, really. Do we?

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2020 08:16 PM (ZfRYq)

429 The FBI was a sterling organization until Hoover took over.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2020 08:16 PM (oVJmc)

430 Run for the Roses was another great Jg song.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 19, 2020 08:16 PM (PUmDY)

431 How many days before Al Gore filed in court for a much simpler case? (cannot believe that is true but it is)

Posted by: Greange at November 19, 2020 08:16 PM (DLPbp)

432 402 35
I don't laugh. Rarely does anyone make me laugh out load.


Depends will help with that.
Posted by: Birkenstock Cowboy at November 19, 2020 08:13 PM (WG2XP)

"Laugh out load." Might be the new Boomer tagline right up there with, "Have a nice day," "Whatever," and Roe v. Wade.

Posted by: 80's music fan at November 19, 2020 08:16 PM (glGDV)

433 We have to kill the Public Funding for Universities.

2/3 of these shithole cities are nothing more than university towns.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (zDVTE)

True. And also hubs for massive fraud.

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 08:16 PM (c6ma9)

434 418 My husband doesn't keep up with the news. Listens to Fox Bidness in his car. Other than that, he keeps up with sports. It's maddening "Where did you hear that? Are you sure? Sounds weird."
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (ptqGC)

__

That's my wife, sans the sports or Fox Bidness. I don't even bother telling her any of this because she just rolls her eyes and thinks I'm crazy.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 08:16 PM (22mNy)

435 395 I know I'm being "that guy" but how well do we know Sidney Powell?

Look, I hope every word she is saying is true. But people can disappoint.

She seems like the real deal, but I can point to people like Jeff Sessions who had an entire career of basically fighting for the platform Trump ran on and for some reason decided to piss it all away and throw his lot in with the Deep State.

I'm honestly asking how well do we know this person and does she deserve this level of belief?
Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (gkdnV)

I'm of the position that she's not lying about having "witnesses". Talking about a young Venezuelan military officer she's going to present is pretty specific. But what she's talking about has had several people promoting it for years, it's basically a conspiracy theory but not so well-documented and commonly understood to be true as Epstein's case. Lt. General McInerny has been running around with this lately too. Could be false and she's been played, could be true. But she does seem to believe it.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 19, 2020 08:16 PM (Zm+LZ)

436 'Night all. I need to attempt to unwind.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:16 PM (ptqGC)

437 >>Run for the Roses was another great Jg song.


Gomorrah

with Maria.

Posted by: garrett at November 19, 2020 08:17 PM (zDVTE)

438 Trump doesnt have a lot of legal allies so I am giving her and Rudy and the rest a lot of slack for going against the grain.
Posted by: If it werent for bad luck Id have no luck at all at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (8YFRI)


I totally get why people are freaked/skeptical/cynical.

Fact is we don't have a whole hell of a lot of slack left to us.

The time is NOW if anything good is going to happen.

Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 08:17 PM (NiXyF)

439 Tucker is an actor, the script changed.

Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 19, 2020 08:17 PM (ONvIw)

440 I guess I'd better apply a tourniquet to my husband's nearly ripped off arm.
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM


You must be new here, otherwise you'd be slapping hot iron.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 19, 2020 08:17 PM (DMUuz)

441 Run for the Roses was another great Jg song.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie

Damn straight, man.

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at November 19, 2020 08:17 PM (lIDCz)

442 ATC, it's irritating as hell to watch you lecture us all on what we know is true. You're right, we know it we just need to believe in right winning out.j

Posted by: Nobody at November 19, 2020 08:17 PM (giU8k)

443 Why would Tucker think she would come on his show after the network spent the entire day mocking and slandering her?????
This isn't gonna work, Tucker.

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 19, 2020 08:17 PM (AD3JT)

444 My husband doesn't keep up with the news. Listens to Fox Bidness in his car. Other than that, he keeps up with sports. It's maddening "Where did you hear that? Are you sure? Sounds weird."
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (ptqGC)
--------------

I think there are a lot of people out there that don't understand that the regulatory state will go nuts under an OBiden administration. Especially if you donated to the Trump campaign.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at November 19, 2020 08:18 PM (WEBkv)

445 There goes Tucker. Just flipped on Sidney Powell.


Unfortunately for Tucker, we need her a lot more than we need him.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 19, 2020 08:18 PM (oVJmc)

446 >>Powell is the lawyer who turned the Michael Flynn case around, and exposed the prior lawyers and the judge as corrupt.

With evidence given to her by the DOJ, evidence that had been hidden by the Mueller team.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 08:18 PM (ZLI7S)

447 Nood.

Posted by: Bete at November 19, 2020 08:18 PM (Ojki1)

448 The j doesn't mean anything. FYI.

Posted by: Nobody at November 19, 2020 08:18 PM (giU8k)

449 That tired old man
Joey Bidet wanted to be President
It was the end of the innocence

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 19, 2020 08:19 PM (6xHaI)

450 As Joe Biden would say, here's the thing: even if Giulani were completely full of shit, what he's saying and doing is newsworthy, and should be covered. And debunked, if debunking is appropriate.

But the MSM are trying to bury such stories, rather than investigating and either confirming or debunking them.

/spit

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2020 08:19 PM (jhFDc)

451 180 I did not like when Powell implied in that conference that it is unknown who has that server seized in Germany - whether it is "the good guys".
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (zr5Kq)

OTOH, the media doesn't know who is "good" or "bad" anyway...

Posted by: Another Relative Moralist at November 19, 2020 08:19 PM (BBWrU)

452 411 389 Tucker threw Sidney under the bus. He asked her to come in and show some evidence. She asked them to stop contacting her.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (NXGjq)

Gosh I wonder why...they only spent all day trashing her and Rudy. JHC.
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (cF8AT)
...............

Also because the media, who conducts the supposed Court of Public Opinion, has lost all credibility and this is not where you do this.

Posted by: Greange at November 19, 2020 08:19 PM (E3KDR)

453 This place slays me - good news can't be accepted and bad or no news is always going to be worse than expected. You people would have been great in Philly in 1776.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at November 19, 2020 08:19 PM (4NtsG)

454 Hell, if Sidney Powell is gaslighting us, we need to shut'er down right now and go enroll in some gender studies program somewhere, because it will be OVER.

Posted by: filbert at November 19, 2020 08:19 PM (NiXyF)

455 I'm not reading too much into it--the good guys are saying "we got the goods on you, bad guys" and the bad guys are desperate to know exactly what they got. This move by tucker makes me think tucker's on the wrong side.
They'll show the court the evidence. You hold your cards till then.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:19 PM (AwPyG)

456 427 How many states with multiple leftist shithole cities are still "red"?
Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 08:10 PM (c6ma9)

___

Florida, Texas, Ohio

Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (22mNy)

Cool. Now how many with Democrat governors?
Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (c6ma9)

___

How about Kentucky and North Carolina? Both "red" states, with blue shithole cities and a Dem governor. And then there's Louisiana which has arguably the shittiest blue city shithole of them all, is a "red" states and has a Dem guv.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 19, 2020 08:19 PM (22mNy)

457 This is good versus evil, ...
Posted by: illiniwek at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (Cus5s)
--------------

That's why I pray for Trump and righteousness for this nation every day.


Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 08:19 PM (CZm2G)

458 I think Trump team lawyers are playing their cards close until they get it into court. Why would they tell the press anything?

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2020 08:20 PM (+ya+t)

459 410 365 Let's talk Special Forces raiding a server in Germany.

This either happened or it didn't.

If you don't good guys or bad guys then you don't know.

Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2020 08:08 PM (ZfRYq)


We don't know it was special forces OR what special force it was.

What we know for sure is that there was a server in Germany with election votes for the President of the United States on/in it and it was retrieved by some US entity.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (CZm2G)

It was Special Forces, military, because the CIA couldn't be trusted. Remember Gina Haskel hanging out in the White House with Mitch and PDT? Guessing they did it then, she couldn't tip off the crooked CIA. The server itself was in a CIA listening post in Frankfurt, Germany. That's why Merkel didn't object, it was all USA stuff.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:20 PM (sy5kK)

460 3 Empires fall.

Wish I weren't witnessing it first hand.
Posted by: Bete at November 19, 2020 07:22 PM

Where is an empire falling? It ain't gonna happen here.

Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:20 PM (9UmRs)

461 Tucker makes funny faces

Posted by: ... at November 19, 2020 08:20 PM (c6ma9)

462 458 I think Trump team lawyers are playing their cards close until they get it into court. Why would they tell the press anything?
Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2020 08:20 PM (+ya+t)


A thousand times, this.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:20 PM (sy5kK)

463 Where's Cake Girl when we need her?

Posted by: Pete Seria at November 19, 2020 08:20 PM (7ZQe3)

464 Either you believe that the election was stolen or you don't . . . .

Otherwise, I am sure Fox New website is looking for a few clicks right about now...


This kind of thing sticks in my craw. Jesus gets my belief and trust. Everybody else has to have proof. This isn't a cult. Not for me anyway. It's perfectly reasonable to insist on seeing the evidence before making up one's mind.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 19, 2020 08:20 PM (H5knJ)

465 451 180 I did not like when Powell implied in that conference that it is unknown who has that server seized in Germany - whether it is "the good guys".
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:47 PM (zr5Kq)

.............

Yep, never call someone your enemy because they might be less motivated to remain your ally.

Bad strategic move and the only way to make sure she does not do it again is to critique it.

Posted by: Greange at November 19, 2020 08:21 PM (E3KDR)

466 I completely agree.

I'm curious on your lawyerly opinion: Is, "I'm keeping my power dry for court" etc. bullshit or legit?

It sounds like it makes sense but we've all become accustomed to everything being tried in the court of public opinion and aired out by wannabe celebrity lawyers on CNN.
Posted by: Damiano at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (YDPU/)


This gets complicated but there are ethical restrictions against trying cases in public. Please note that I am not a Rudy fangirl in the slightest. My loathing of prosecutors is well known and must be taken into consideration.

The problem here is the compressed time lines at issue combined with the public statements. If the attorney is saying that in public, then that better be 10% of what the authenticated evidence can prove.

My opinion, and this is not the lawerly opinion, is that you can't have it both ways. This is a huge conspiracy and I have the evidence but I won't show you until the suit is not tenable. Put up or shut up. If it is this major, then slam your cards face up on the table. It's all going to be public in the filings, after all.

Now, I hope that I'm proven wrong and I will be gleeful to have been done so. But this fan dance shit is just that. A fan dance.


Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:21 PM (GbPPJ)

467
Tucker threw Sidney under the bus. He asked her to come in and show some evidence. She asked them to stop contacting her.
Posted by: Jaimo

Who threw who under the bus then?
Posted by: blaster


She jumped under the bus.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2020 08:21 PM (63Dwl)

468 Holy smokes, the evidence of cheating is as obvious as the back of your hand from fractional vote shares, to pristine Biden only ballots, to election observer statements, to computer vote dumps, to counting machines with a known work rate that can't count that many votes in that time, to violation of all kinds of known statistics, to more votes than actual people in a precinct, to astronomical probabilities of one candidate getting so many votes in row, all the way down to the traditional dead people voting.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2020 08:21 PM (r+sAi)

469 @459... If it ain't true, it ought to be.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 19, 2020 08:21 PM (evxBY)

470 What we know for sure is that there was a server in Germany with
election votes for the President of the United States on/in it and it
was retrieved by some US entity.



And that one little factoid is enough to make me question lots and lots of things. Numbero Uno is WTFF is any server or any information about an American election even doing in another country? That stinks right away and tells me that there's something fishy going on somewhere.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 19, 2020 08:21 PM (HaL55)

471 I totally get why people are freaked/skeptical/cynical

*********

Yeah, and the thing is there is no way they are not being harassed and maligned behind the scenes. Already two lawyers I think have been threatened to stop working for Trump.

For them to continue supporting Trump and really go out on a limb saying flat out Trump had a landslide victory makes me ready to give them the benefit of the doubt. They dont have to do this, and endure the media and the left trying to destroy them when they can just as easily retire on some Carribbean Island sipping coconut drinks while giving America the middle finger it so richly deserves.

Posted by: If it werent for bad luck Id have no luck at all at November 19, 2020 08:22 PM (8YFRI)

472 Some rat @ 281- A well-known Texas story had Lyndon in an early political contest telling his stooges to start a rumor that that his opponent screwed his pigs. They told him 'Lyndon, we can't prove that.' Lyndon says 'We don't have to.'

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2020 08:22 PM (XhWtx)

473 Greetings:

I think that one keeps one's "powder" dry.

Posted by: 11B40 at November 19, 2020 08:22 PM (evgyj)

474 Some bad news about some potentially bad lawyering from a very respected conservative attorney, John Hinderaker at PowerLine

https://bit.ly/35KiEoA

Posted by: motionview (I am also desperate to believe) at November 19, 2020 08:22 PM (pYQR/)

475 @451
I'm not worried. It sounds lie the good guys knew all about everything. If the bad guys were trying to scrub the operation by seizing the server, its probably too late.
Makes more sense it was a desperation move by the bad guys, because I imagine Merkel's people would have to give permission. Heck, Merkel's probably got a stake in it; I bet she's had a few hinky elections.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:22 PM (AwPyG)

476 >> I think Trump team lawyers are playing their cards close until they get it into court. Why would they tell the press anything?


Jenna Ellis pretty much said this a few minutes ago on Newsmax.

Posted by: DJ at November 19, 2020 08:23 PM (O3/K+)

477 355 Said it before and will say it again. Sidney Powell is putting up her life, her fortune and her Sacred Honor. This is no posturing for her. She is dead ass serious.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 19, 2020 08:06 PM (L+got)

Agreed.

Powell has represented Flynn for, what, two years, and she has not commented on any evidence before it was produced in court. Powell also hasn't ever leaked evidence under seal unlike everyone else in that courtroom has done. She could be bluffing, but so far she has acted like a lawyer did back in the day we had Rule of Law.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at November 19, 2020 08:23 PM (puu6v)

478
Yes! They thought all they needed was a 3% cheat, when it showed that wasn't going to cut it, they had to pull out all the stops.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 19, 2020 07:50 PM (oR71r)

3% swiped, plus 3% added, equals 6% difference.

Hence why Sydney Powell said all down ballot R's to demand a hand recount.

Guessing the Trump legal team has some people working strategy for some of the down ballot close R losses.

Maybe some House races in swing states, too? That would be cool.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:23 PM (sy5kK)

479 But are we now going to say Tucker Carlson is in on it?

Rush Limbaugh a few days ago was sort of also dumping cold water on some of these claims.

I really want to believe Powell has the goods, but "extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence, and how much longer are we going to wait? Until Biden is a few years in?

This is just as much a political and PR battle as it is a legal one. You don't get years to line all of this up, I would argue it may already be too late.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 08:23 PM (gkdnV)

480 Hysterical screams of "where's the evidence?!?!" are fair enough. Judges and legislators will have the same questions, though perhaps a bit less self dramatically. Rudy and Sidney either have the goods, don't have the goods or, likeliest, have the goods but it won't matter because the entire power structure in the USA has decided it is time for Turmp to go, voters be damned.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (evxBY)
**********
Rudy has a lot of sworn affidavits which seem to point to voter fraud.
Sidney on the other hand has said the voting machines were rigged and votes were changed which is a pretty big bombshell. She can't just have a guy saying this is how its been done in other elections. It has to be for this election.

I pray she has proof and not just some guy showing us how it could be done.

Her great reputation is at stake.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 19, 2020 08:24 PM (NpAcC)

481 so, who killed JFK ?
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2020 07:44 PM (zr5Kq)

The CIA. Duh.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at November 19, 2020 08:24 PM (5FCda)

482 The MI SoS is now saying that there is no legal mechanism for the canvassing board members to rescind their vote.

Posted by: FloridachickTrump WON at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM



An interesting legal theory (duress and all), but in any case the
State Canvassers have to vote to certify. The only difference would be
is that they wouldn't also have to investigate the County if it was
deemed OK.

Posted by: State > County at November 19, 2020 08:15 PM (BBWrU)


She can say that all she wants but the votes are still uncertified because the canvassers refused to sign under penalty of perjury that everything balanced. The required paperwork was never signed. She is just pitching this temper tantrum because they could not find a legal way to remove the canvassers from the Board.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:24 PM (946rW)

483 466 I completely agree.

I'm curious on your lawyerly opinion: Is, "I'm keeping my power dry for court" etc. bullshit or legit?

It sounds like it makes sense but we've all become accustomed to everything being tried in the court of public opinion and aired out by wannabe celebrity lawyers on CNN.
Posted by: Damiano at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (YDPU/)

This gets complicated but there are ethical restrictions against trying cases in public. Please note that I am not a Rudy fangirl in the slightest. My loathing of prosecutors is well known and must be taken into consideration.

The problem here is the compressed time lines at issue combined with the public statements. If the attorney is saying that in public, then that better be 10% of what the authenticated evidence can prove.

My opinion, and this is not the lawerly opinion, is that you can't have it both ways. This is a huge conspiracy and I have the evidence but I won't show you until the suit is not tenable. Put up or shut up. If it is this major, then slam your cards face up on the table. It's all going to be public in the filings, after all.

Now, I hope that I'm proven wrong and I will be gleeful to have been done so. But this fan dance shit is just that. A fan dance.


Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:21 PM (GbPPJ)

The side of the case Rudy's making isn't the Dominion one, though he seems to have been persuaded by Powell that there's there, there. His cards basically are on the table and he's outlined the case he's going to make several times.

1. Here's a ton of individual examples of fraud. Witness testimony.
2. Here's broad breach of laws and safeguards to protect against fraud. Some set of these ballots are explicitly illegal under existing law, though they've been commingled.
3. Here's the statistical evidence to tell you how much fraud there was.
4. Here are the remedies required by existing law or precedent or that we are now requesting.

There may be some variation on the particulars, but there's nothing particularly novel about his case relative to past voter fraud.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 19, 2020 08:25 PM (Zm+LZ)

484 419 I guess I'd better apply a tourniquet to my husband's nearly ripped off arm.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:12 PM (ptqGC)

It doesn't work.
Posted by: Michelle Fields at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (c6ma9

Always fun to see Michelle Fields commenting!

Posted by: tbodie at November 19, 2020 08:25 PM (2El4P)

485 Greetings:

Sidney Powell does "serious" really well. I haven't seen that degree of "serious" since St.Margaret Mary's Grammar School.

Posted by: 11B40 at November 19, 2020 08:25 PM (evgyj)

486 just as long as trump's legal team has the big pic, keeping tabs on the safe harbor date and that they need to contest 6 states.

they probably are, but who knows.

also, trump's EO flies in the face of how these shit hole cities and states were able to get consent decrees to change the rules and actually, you know, cheat at will on election day. If the EO had ballz...then the philly precinct would've had a dozen DHS or whatever guys there to enforce the law.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at November 19, 2020 08:25 PM (a3Tyz)

487 It was Special Forces, military, because the CIA couldn't be trusted. Remember Gina Haskel hanging out in the White House with Mitch and PDT? Guessing they did it then, she couldn't tip off the crooked CIA. The server itself was in a CIA listening post in Frankfurt, Germany. That's why Merkel didn't object, it was all USA stuff.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:20 PM (sy5kK)


The way it's reported:

Gohmert emailed the President
Email was delayed
Server was taken before the President received G's email

So, according to Gohmert, the man who informed the president, some entity scooped Gohmert's email.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 08:26 PM (CZm2G)

488 >He began with, "You need to calm down."

I'll let the horde imagine how that went.
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at November 19, 2020 08:02 PM (ptqGC)

*piano music stops*

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 19, 2020 08:27 PM (L106N)

489
My opinion, and this is not the lawerly opinion, is that you can't have it both ways. This is a huge conspiracy and I have the evidence but I won't show you until the suit is not tenable. Put up or shut up. If it is this major, then slam your cards face up on the table. It's all going to be public in the filings, after all.

Now, I hope that I'm proven wrong and I will be gleeful to have been done so. But this fan dance shit is just that. A fan dance.


Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:21 PM (GbPPJ)

Point taken about the timeline, but given her representation of Michael Flynn this is not someone who lays her cards on the table prematurely let alone leaks evidence under seal (I realize this isn't that). Again, I get your point but she either is going to lay this out in court or she is lying. I am going with the former. Public relations certainly have to be a consideration but this will stand or fall based on what she has and how the court views it. Powell has everything to lose and nothing to gain if this is puffery.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at November 19, 2020 08:27 PM (puu6v)

490 @483
Yeah. You tell the court:
Here's the law
Here's our evidence
Here's the remedy
Rudy is a good lawyer, he's got it buttoned down.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:27 PM (AwPyG)

491 Im not worried about the evidence. The Trump team believes it, and I believe it.

Im worried about judges ruling according to penumbras and living documents and the orange man bad clause.

Posted by: If it werent for bad luck Id have no luck at all at November 19, 2020 08:28 PM (8YFRI)

492 The side of the case Rudy's making isn't the
Dominion one, though he seems to have been persuaded by Powell that
there's there, there. His cards basically are on the table and he's
outlined the case he's going to make several times.



1. Here's a ton of individual examples of fraud. Witness testimony.

2. Here's broad breach of laws and safeguards to protect against
fraud. Some set of these ballots are explicitly illegal under existing
law, though they've been commingled.

3. Here's the statistical evidence to tell you how much fraud there was.

4. Here are the remedies required by existing law or precedent or that we are now requesting.



There may be some variation on the particulars, but there's nothing
particularly novel about his case relative to past voter fraud.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 19, 2020 08:25


In several states, including Pennsylvania, I think the main attack will be on unconstitutional rule changes.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:28 PM (946rW)

493 The press conference was for the American people not a court.

Posted by: dartist at November 19, 2020 08:28 PM (+ya+t)

494 Tucker is already wealthy. He understands the ramifications if Biden is installed as our president. So why is he doing this?
Is Sidney maybe stabbing us in the back?

Sometimes I feel like Alice in Wonderland.

Posted by: FloridachickTrump WON at November 19, 2020 08:28 PM (ml+CM)

495 @489
and don't' forget that she's said more than once, if you're a dominion person and you want to come forward and avoid the pain, now's the time.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:28 PM (AwPyG)

496 Gentleman - You wrote that you like Sidney, but think "she is clueless about math and says thing that she should have proven specious before repeating."

She even said in the press conference that she was bad at math and implied (inferred?) that someone with much better math skills needed to double check her work.

Can you explain or link to an explanation about the bad math you think she may be relying on? Thanks.

Posted by: MikeyZee at November 19, 2020 08:29 PM (4gjQj)

497 Evidently, Tucker is not afraid of Soros.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 19, 2020 08:29 PM (NpAcC)

498 She can't just have a guy saying this is how its been done in other elections. It has to be for this election. <<<<<<<
If I can follow along with the vote dumps and see the very strange anomalies, I am pretty sure anyone can if they choose to see it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2020 08:29 PM (r+sAi)

499 482 The MI SoS is now saying that there is no legal mechanism for the canvassing board members to rescind their vote.

Posted by: FloridachickTrump

---> whatshis face is the guy who strong armed an elderly election commission woman for a felony 2 years ago.

Again two legal arguments I'm sure the courts won't like is

-we cheated outside the recount margin
-we threatened people to agree to our fraud

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at November 19, 2020 08:29 PM (a3Tyz)

500 Posted by: AltonJackson at November 19, 2020 08:00 PM (kioLb)

---
"gracias" as we say here in #Failifornia

Posted by: redc1c4 TRUMP WON! at November 19, 2020 08:29 PM (omAHa)

501 >The amusing part of all this is the sheer brazenness of the cheating.

I mean, did these people cheat this massively because they think they can get away with it, or did they cheat out of fear of repercussions from their own side?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at November 19, 2020 08:03 PM (WEBkv)

I think it was done under the "big lie" theory. That most people would never allow themselves to believe that something so terrible in scale could possibly be true. They may be correct about that assumption.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 19, 2020 08:29 PM (L106N)

502 BC and I get into an actual screaming at each other fight on the podcast because I think Erick Erickson is a smarmy piece of shit and BC doesn't. I stand by my view though I do feel badly for yelling at BC.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 07:35 PM (GbPPJ)

Mom! Dad! Quit with the fighting!

But y'all weren't screaming, you were just...very...adamant. And forceful.

Posted by: Robert at November 19, 2020 08:30 PM (MmQA/)

503 @493
Maybe also to put media on notice that any more lying is more proof for RICO case. "Knowingly" is an important element to prove.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:30 PM (AwPyG)

504 Rudy and Sidney could be trying to influence GOP legislators in WI, MI, GA and PA, rather than win in court. This isn't a legal drama. It's raw politics. Ds played very, very rough with the balloting. Now, perhaps, it's Trump's turn. Sidney and Rudy put out a plausible narrative that incenses the base and gives GOP state legislators the room to not send electors to DC, or some other political trick. Team Trump is probably schmoozing GOP state legislators, LBJ style, "I'd like to hear whatI can do for you AFTER I tell you what you'regoing to do for me". If not, they ought to be.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 19, 2020 08:30 PM (evxBY)

505 Going back to Nixon, I don't think the people held a second-rate burglary against him at the outset. It was the constant drumbeat of the media that did him in. It was exactly like today...they yelled and screamed nonstop until people started to believe them.

Posted by: creeper at November 19, 2020 08:30 PM (+Ta2A)

506 If I can follow along with the vote dumps and see the very strange
anomalies, I am pretty sure anyone can if they choose to see it.


A half-million vote lead by PDT that magically vanishes overnight is kinda hard to ignore, even by an ignoramus.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 19, 2020 08:30 PM (HaL55)

507 I bet there are some people that are scared. Hopefully scared that a US Marine will be kicking down their door and arresting them for treason.

Posted by: Garbone at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (Hx513)

508

Schiff didn't have sworn affidavits.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (CZm2G)

509 >"I really want to believe Powell has the goods, but "extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.

Why is it an "extraordinary claim" that there was massive vote fraud in this election? And even if were an "extraordinary claim", a preponderance of regular evidence will do just fine to satisfy the burden of proof.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (XYHTz)

510 Tucker is an actor, the script changed.

Posted by: DOJ is fat and incapable at November 19, 2020 08:17 PM (ONvIw)


Third act!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Rulers Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (2C38g)

511 Just not knowing if the server is in enemy hands, and by enemy hands I mean democrats, makes me nervous.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (NXGjq)

512
Watching the lying slanderous press attack the Trump legal team is showing they are actively involved with the election cover up.

Why this is so important, is right now the USA is operating under an emergency order about foreign meddling into a US Election, signed by Pres Trump on 9.12.18. That order allows the government to take all assets from these criminals.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (sy5kK)

513 Has Mike Pence made any statements about any of this?

I mean, being the VP and directly effected, one would think he'd be backing up Powell's claims that there's something big about to be revealed.

Has he made any indications?

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (gkdnV)

514 Schiff didn't have sworn affidavits.

Posted by: Braenyard

---> instead, he knew that everyone swore under oath behind closed doors they had no knowledge.

Posted by: President Elect RedCheckmark at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (a3Tyz)

515 @499
Trump's tweets seemed to say that the two electors never signed the certification, and that's what's important.
It's that "penalty of perjury" thing again. Everything else is just flak.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:32 PM (AwPyG)

516 Pence had a press conference today. the press were hysterical, of course.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:33 PM (AwPyG)

517 Tucker going after the GOP telling them they need to do a lot more to protect our Constitutional rights.
Saying DeSantis seems to get it.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 19, 2020 08:33 PM (NpAcC)

518 423 138 The MI SoS is now saying that there is no legal mechanism for the canvassing board members to rescind their vote.
Posted by: FloridachickTrump WON at November 19, 2020 07:42 PM

It doesn't matter, as soon as MI goes to certify, PDT's team sues.
If you watch Steve Crowder's video from today, detailing how Wayne county created 173,000 votes out of thin air, my state of MI is fooked.

Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:33 PM (9UmRs)

519 Why is it an "extraordinary claim" that there was massive vote fraud in this election? And even if were an "extraordinary claim", a preponderance of regular evidence will do just fine to satisfy the burden of proof.
Posted by: Anonymous 7

____________

She's making claims way beyond that, like she has smoking gun evidence of a large conspiracy, like Dominion being hacked.

It's not the usual "look at all the dead people that voted"

For the record, I absolutely believe HEAVY fraud occurred in this election.

Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 08:33 PM (gkdnV)

520 I do feel badly for yelling at BC.
Posted by: alexthechick
-------

Probably best to make sure that your taster checks the chili before you have any.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2020 08:34 PM (cGzEU)

521 474 Some bad news about some potentially bad lawyering from a very respected conservative attorney, John Hinderaker at PowerLine

https://bit.ly/35KiEoA
Posted by: motionview (I am also desperate to believe) at November 19, 2020 08:22 PM (pYQR/)

That's a tad concerning.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:35 PM (cF8AT)

522 Why this is so important, is right now the USA is operating under an emergency order about foreign meddling into a US Election, signed by Pres Trump on 9.12.18. That order allows the government to take all assets from these criminals.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (sy5kK)



Interesting. I wonder how many of the enemy are cognizant of this.

Posted by: creeper at November 19, 2020 08:35 PM (+Ta2A)

523 Probably best to make sure that your taster checks the chili before you have any.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 19, 2020 08:34 PM (cGzEU)

And then pick out all the carrots.

Posted by: Robert at November 19, 2020 08:35 PM (OBznz)

524 >>Trump's tweets seemed to say that the two electors never signed the certification, and that's what's important.

And you would be correct.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 08:35 PM (ZLI7S)

525 Dominion wasn't hacked. It worked exactly as designed.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 19, 2020 08:36 PM (NXGjq)

526
In several states, including Pennsylvania, I think the main attack will be on unconstitutional rule changes.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:28 PM (946rW)

Agreed this is particularly true in Pennsylvania where the changes didn't even follow the applicable statutes.

A tangentially related point. The statisticians are blown off by others but vital to show certain illegal actions changed the outcome. You and I have different levels of faith in the judicial system (I have precious little) but a multi-faceted attack with overwhelming evidence is needed here to overcome what I see, at least, as a judiciary hostile to where it will lead.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at November 19, 2020 08:37 PM (puu6v)

527 Well, did you know that JFK had already signed an executive order taking the printing and creation of money away from the Fed Res, and put it back in the hands of the US Government?

Johnson rescinded that order as soon as he was President.

I always found that.... interesting.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 19, 2020 07:55 PM (NgKpN)

This guy gets it.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at November 19, 2020 08:37 PM (5FCda)

528 For the record, I absolutely believe HEAVY fraud occurred in this election.

********

Im inclined to think they have to play it close to the vest here or the evidence otherwise found via discovery will magically disappear.

Posted by: If it werent for bad luck Id have no luck at all at November 19, 2020 08:37 PM (8YFRI)

529 I don't get why the servers are a big deal, a tech geek would have to help me on that. But I can see the numbers and when they came in and in what order.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 19, 2020 08:38 PM (r+sAi)

530 Tucker threw Sidney under the bus. He asked her to come in and show some evidence. She asked them to stop contacting her.
Posted by: Jaimo at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (NXGjq)

Many here, including moi, thought Tucker could or would or should take his show elsewhere.
At least for me, I now believe Tucker is right where he belongs .

Fox is going the New Coke route. Enjoy the ride Tucker. We wont miss you.

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 19, 2020 08:38 PM (WbAOU)

531 {{{Hrothgar}}}

Posted by: creeper at November 19, 2020 08:38 PM (+Ta2A)

532
Until she reveals the evidence, it is nothing more or less than Sources Say.

I'm sorry, I don't know how much clearer to make it that this has nothing to do with Powell and her trustworthiness. It has everything to do with the fact that Sources Say is a lie from the pits of hell until the Source is named and the evidence is revealed.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and
fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (GbPPJ)

I think they're saying 'sworn affidavits say'...not 'sources say'.

I wouldn't want my lawyers to present all the evidence they have to present those details on TV. I want them to present them in court. Would you, as an attorney in a high profile case present all your evidence, in detail, to the media?
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:10 PM (cF8AT)

Rudy and company dropped a GIANT turd in the Biden-elect party punchbowl.

Progda is a gasp at how someone could be so uncouth to do such a thing!

But not discuss any of the actual evidence produced.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:38 PM (sy5kK)

533 t doesn't matter, as soon as MI goes to certify, PDT's team sues.

If you watch Steve Crowder's video from today, detailing how Wayne
county created 173,000 votes out of thin air, my state of MI is fooked.

Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:33 PM (9UmRs)

Keep calling your legislators and urging them to intervene and choose the electors themselves given the proven fraud. Point to Wayne County not being certified because of the fraud including there being more absentee ballots that were counted than absentee ballots requested in multiple precincts.

Particularly call the President of the Senate and remind him that only legal votes count toward the popular vote total and legal votes favor Trump.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:39 PM (946rW)

534 There has to be at least one honest and brave Democrat politician to step up and admit something is wrong.

Are they like a unicorn?

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 19, 2020 08:39 PM (WUuhi)

535 This whole thing is approximately 1/2 the country, admittedly the uneducated, stupid, dishonest, evil half, is telling the other half, us, to fcuk ourselves. That's rude behavior and we all know what J.B. Books had to say about that.

Posted by: Eromero at November 19, 2020 08:39 PM (XhWtx)

536 512
Watching the lying slanderous press attack the Trump legal team is showing they are actively involved with the election cover up.

Why this is so important, is right now the USA is operating under an emergency order about foreign meddling into a US Election, signed by Pres Trump on 9.12.18. That order allows the government to take all assets from these criminals.



Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (sy5kK)

Yep. A compliant misinformation industry facilitated the Russia hoax.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at November 19, 2020 08:39 PM (puu6v)

537 Tucker Carlson could write his own ticket. That he continues to ride with FOX says everything we need to know about the man.

Posted by: creeper at November 19, 2020 08:40 PM (+Ta2A)

538 >>My opinion, and this is not the lawerly opinion, is that you can't have it both ways. This is a huge conspiracy and I have the evidence but I won't show you until the suit is not tenable. Put up or shut up. If it is this major, then slam your cards face up on the table. It's all going to be public in the filings, after all.

Okay, maybe they don't have evidence...do you believe it anyway? You're not in front of the bench now, you're with colleagues, in the waiting room outside Sup. Court Room 1 ...do you believe it happen - or is it all everyone's figment of imagination?

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 08:40 PM (w2LAm)

539 Agreed this is particularly true in Pennsylvania where the changes didn't even follow the applicable statutes.


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In GA and VA as well as several other states non-legislative law changes likely affected the outcome too.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:41 PM (946rW)

540 I think it was done under the "big lie" theory. That most people would never allow themselves to believe that something so terrible in scale could possibly be true. They may be correct about that assumption



But dont we already have 88% of Republicans believing that there was fraud? Do we really believe that at this stage any amount of evidence is going to convince the Democrats that their side either minutely or massively stole the election? Would they care at all even if proof was pounding them over the head? This is all or nothing. Either them or us.

Posted by: FloridachickTrump WON at November 19, 2020 08:41 PM (ml+CM)

541 521 474 Some bad news about some potentially bad lawyering from a very respected conservative attorney, John Hinderaker at PowerLine

https://bit.ly/35KiEoA
Posted by: motionview (I am also desperate to believe) at November 19, 2020 08:22 PM (pYQR/)


Hinderraker has always been a middling pos and still is.
He and Andy can go suck each other's dicks.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 08:41 PM (CZm2G)

542 It's almost too much to hope for--that the plan we're seeing tantalizing glimpses of is going forward, and all these people are going to wind up as criminal defendants.
Imagine the furor

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:42 PM (AwPyG)

543 This is a coup disguised as an election and here we are trying to convince the enemy that they did something wrong.

Posted by: FloridachickTrump WON at November 19, 2020 08:42 PM (ml+CM)

544 "faggettery"

Nice. Rolls around on the tongue, even.

Posted by: creeper at November 19, 2020 08:43 PM (+Ta2A)

545 521 474 Some bad news about some potentially bad lawyering from a very respected conservative attorney, John Hinderaker at PowerLine

https://bit.ly/35KiEoA
Posted by: motionview (I am also desperate to believe) at November 19, 2020 08:22 PM (pYQR/)

That's a tad concerning.
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:35 PM (cF8AT)

Here's what this article is about:

"I got an email today from a Minnesota resident, a conservative and a smart guy who is the CEO of a company, and later talked with him on the phone. He has taken the trouble to read the filings that have been made so far by Trump's lawyers. He directed my attention to an affidavit signed by Russell Ramsland, a Texas resident who is an expert on cyber security. The affidavit was filed by Lin Wood in the Georgia lawsuit, but it relates entirely to Michigan, and it is a safe bet that it has been filed in one or more cases in that state as well.

Here's the problem: the townships and precincts listed in paragraphs 11 and 17 of the affidavit are not in Michigan. They are in Minnesota. Monticello, Albertville, Lake Lillian, Houston, Brownsville, Runeberg, Wolf Lake, Height of Land, Detroit Lakes, Frazee, Kandiyohi--these are all towns in Minnesota. I haven't checked them all, but I checked a lot of them, and all locations listed in paragraphs 11 and 17 that I looked up are in Minnesota, with no corresponding township in Michigan. This would have been obvious to someone from this state, but Mr. Ramsland is a Texan and the lawyers are probably not natives of either Minnesota or Michigan.

Evidently a researcher, either Mr. Ramsland or someone working for him, was working with a database and confused "MI" for Minnesota with "MI" for Michigan. (The postal code for Minnesota is MN, while Michigan is MI, so one can see how this might happen.) So the affidavit, which addresses "anomalies and red flags" in Michigan, is based largely, and mistakenly, on data from Minnesota.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:43 PM (cF8AT)

546 What we know for sure is that there was a server in
Germany with election votes for the President of the United States on/in
it and it was retrieved by some US entity.





Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 08:14 PM (CZm2G)


How do we know this for sure again?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 19, 2020 08:44 PM (IbxQb)

547 No one nooded.

I shall nood.

NOOD!

Posted by: Robert at November 19, 2020 08:44 PM (MmQA/)

548 @530
Amen.

Posted by: artemis at November 19, 2020 08:45 PM (AwPyG)

549 {{{creeper}}}

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Rulers Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 19, 2020 08:46 PM (2C38g)

550 524 >>Trump's tweets seemed to say that the two electors never signed the certification, and that's what's important.

And you would be correct.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 08:35 PM (ZLI7S)

Hmmmm.. the way I read their affidavits I thought they both signed off.

Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:46 PM (9UmRs)

551 409 I'm sorry, I don't know how much clearer to make it that this has nothing to do with Powell and her trustworthiness. It has everything to do with the fact that Sources Say is a lie from the pits of hell until the Source is named and the evidence is revealed.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria and fagettery at November 19, 2020 08:05 PM (GbPPJ)

Either you believe that the election was stolen or you don't - AOS isn't a bar exam or a legal hurdle to overcome...I understand that so far no one has presented the legal/IT people here enough "court" proof - but I sure hope that real grown ups aren't fooling themselves that this was an honest election and unless some one stuffs a smoking gun their face, they not changing their minds...

Have you seen the statistical vote information on TGP in the last couple of days?
In each state, Trump was up Tuesday night. Counting stops. Then Biden wave of votes and Biden led by 10 or 20k. Then EVERY following count was EXACTLY at the same fixed rate, like Biden 50 - Trump 49. EVERY COUNT! PA, GA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, VA.

This is statistically impossible.
Votes have been reversed by strong statistical analysis before.
This is so much more detailed than ever about this fraud. One affidavit taken under oath has some weight.
Over one hundred such affidavits, from people that don't know each other or weren't R's, combined with strong statistical evidence, seems a solid case to me.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:47 PM (sy5kK)

552 389 Tucker threw Sidney under the bus. He asked her to come in and show some evidence. She asked them to stop contacting her.
Posted by: Jaimo at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (NXGjq)

Tucker can read the affidavits like everybody else. He can post links to them when they are filed in court.
Like Sidney Powell or any lawyer worth their salt is going to show their cards before they have to along with putting their witnesses and assets in mortal danger.
Tucker is acting like a midwit. He wants ratings. He is playing the part of the heel.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 19, 2020 08:48 PM (gC1MQ)

553 Over one hundred such affidavits, from people that don't know each other or weren't R's, combined with strong statistical evidence, seems a solid case to me.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:47 PM (sy5kK)


Sure looks like a tax to me!

Posted by: SCCJ Wan Roberts at November 19, 2020 08:48 PM (2C38g)

554 Tucker threw Sidney under the bus. He asked her to come in and show some evidence. She asked them to stop contacting her.
Posted by: Jaimo at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (NXGjq)

Many here, including moi, thought Tucker could or would or should take his show elsewhere.
At least for me, I now believe Tucker is right where he belongs .

Fox is going the New Coke route. Enjoy the ride Tucker. We wont miss you.

Posted by: Voter theater. at November 19, 2020 08:38 PM (WbAOU)
*********
I don't think he threw her under the bus. Tucker asked her to come on and would give her the full hour, but she declined.

I want to believe Sidney. I really want to believe
Sidney, but she needs to start showing some evidence. If she has a guy that actually changed votes in this election maybe she could read his sworn affidavit that he changed votes.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 19, 2020 08:49 PM (NpAcC)

555 Keep calling your legislators and urging them to intervene and choose the electors themselves given the proven fraud. Point to Wayne County not being certified because of the fraud including there being more absentee ballots that were counted than absentee ballots requested in multiple precincts.

Particularly call the President of the Senate and remind him that only legal votes count toward the popular vote total and legal votes favor Trump.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:39 PM (946rW)

They're all hiding in the tall grass the last couple days and not answering the phones.

Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:49 PM (9UmRs)

556 Evidently a researcher, either Mr. Ramsland or
someone working for him, was working with a database and confused "MI"
for Minnesota with "MI" for Michigan. (The postal code for Minnesota is
MN, while Michigan is MI, so one can see how this might happen.) So
the affidavit, which addresses "anomalies and red flags" in Michigan, is
based largely, and mistakenly, on data from Minnesota.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:43 PM (cF8AT)

Well... if this is true, the affidavit needs to be corrected to read Minnesota not Michigan. It does not affect the crux of the argument though.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:50 PM (946rW)

557 So the affidavit, which addresses "anomalies and red flags" in Michigan, is based largely, and mistakenly, on data from Minnesota.
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:43 PM (cF8AT)

Unless the case is built solely or exclusively on this singular testimony, its retarded to suggest that the suit is a goner...everyone, I mean everyone, makes mistakes in cases, my best friend tells me all the time about his, some are pretty hilarious and accidental ...but most if not all are not fatal. And he runs the number 3 largest white collar crime firm in the world right now.

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 08:50 PM (w2LAm)

558 How do we know this for sure again?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 19, 2020 08:44 PM (IbxQb)

The internet. Try using it sometimes.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 19, 2020 08:50 PM (gC1MQ)

559 They're all hiding in the tall grass the last couple days and not answering the phones.

Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:49 PM (9UmRs)

Keep calling and calling. Also, email.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:51 PM (946rW)

560 They're all hiding in the tall grass the last couple days and not answering the phones.
Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:49 PM (9UmRs)


Answering to your constituents is just not done dear boy. They might get ideas about accountability!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Rulers Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 19, 2020 08:51 PM (2C38g)

561 2016 Dem Primary - Stolen from Bernie for Hillary the Inevitable

2016 General - Didn't think Trump could win, so didn't try hard enough

2020 Dem Primary - Stolen from Bernie (again) for Joe Biden in a panic

2020 General - Learned from 2016 General, spent 4 years putting The Sting in place, and had to use it for . . . Joe Biden.

This quote will be on our nation's headstone:

"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f**k things up."



Posted by: starboardhelm at November 19, 2020 08:52 PM (yy4fX)

562 The claim on Dominion and any other related systems that use similar hardware is that weighted voting was built into the system software allegedly for HOA, organization elections, etc. as well as some local elections that use rank order voting.

If Dominion or some other entity can download live patches to the voting machines, then it is alleged that this was done via the simultaneous drop in votes that apparently the volume of votes in some states could not have come from absentee votes being run through the machine scanners which take a measurable finite amount of time each.

Then, there are the typical voter fraud issue such as vote harvesting by paying voters to collect their ballot and fill it out for them, collecting votes from the senile at nursing homes, etc. , then the mailing of absentee ballots to non-existent persons--key is huge number of ballots being delivered to empty lots, commercial properties, abandoned homes, etc., then there is the discarding and shredding of ballots, for the other team, filling out pristine ballots your team and running those through the tabulators without bothering with voter history file,signatures, etc.

Then add in counting illegitimate votes such as after the deadlines for submission, voters committing crimes such as voting in two locations, non-citizens voting, felons voting, and so on as well as "losing" the datacards of vote tabulations in strong Trump areas.

Last, but not least, given the EO, the Trump administration could have had FISA warrants out three hops from Dominion, Scytel, foreign leaders and oligarchs, and anyone contacting them. Given the amount of three degrees, we are talking abou hundreds of people. If the PDT administration was using this for the NSA to monitor election communications as well as raw data feeds via communications, that could well explain the backfill and lack of specifics right now. The way that the FBI and other agencies have used counterintel searches for regular criminal investigations (which is not supposed to be done) is that the comms are used to identify players and the location of evidence but then regular gumshoe work produces evidence that you can use in court via witnesses, physical evidence, etc.

We shall see what happens which is about all you can expect at this stage.

Right now, the legal issue before the Trump team is stopping certification that the elections were both fair and honest in those six states. That is an easier remedy in courts than seeking Trump to be declared the victor. Contrary to Dem propaganda about Bush v. Gore, Bush had it won via certification of Florida's vote--Gore was trying to overturn the certification. All Bush had to do was persuade the court that the recounts asked by Gore created an equal protection problem due to counties differing vote standards which the Court so found.

In Trump v. contested states, his legal path is different in each state.



Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 08:52 PM (pO7gM)

563 Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:51 PM (946rW)

I've snail mailed a few times, they're not answering email either.

Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:53 PM (9UmRs)

564 @realDonaldTrump 2m

Look at this in Michigan! A day AFTER the election, Biden receives a dump of 134,886 votes at 6:31AM!

https://tinyurl.com/yy959o8x

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:53 PM (cF8AT)

565 >Why is it an "extraordinary claim" that there was
massive vote fraud in this election? And even if itwere an "extraordinary
claim", a preponderance of regular evidence will do just fine to satisfy
the burden of proof.
--Posted by: Anonymous 7



>>She's making claims way beyond that, like she has smoking gun evidence of a large conspiracy, like Dominion being hacked.

It's not the usual "look at all the dead people that voted"

For the record, I absolutely believe HEAVY fraud occurred in this election.--

Posted by: Blago


Yes, she is claiming more than run-of-the-mill vote fraud.

But Powell also recently said "I don't allege anything I can't prove."

So it will come down to what evidence she has. Why does it have to be "extraordinary"? What does that even mean? It just has to evidence convincing enough to satisfy the burden of proof.

Powell and the president's legal team are going for the entire shooting match because they rightly see an international conspiracy at work. They may well be able to prove election fraud, but not the wider conspiracy. We'll have to see the evidence they present to the court for the latter.


Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 19, 2020 08:53 PM (XYHTz)

566 I remember when Tucker was constantly slamming John Bolton and I was like, "WTF Tucker."

I now see what he meant.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 19, 2020 08:55 PM (NpAcC)

567 So it will come down to what evidence she has. Why does it have to be "extraordinary"?



Because judges are loathe to overturn an election.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2020 08:56 PM (0mP7b)

568 Look at this in Michigan! A day AFTER the election, Biden receives a dump of 134,886 votes at 6:31AM!

https://tinyurl.com/yy959o8x
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 08:53 PM

Steve Crowder's video today was talking about 173,000 votes coming from Detroit precincts with 0 registered voters. He shows the voting results.

I hope the canvassers did not sign off Wayne county.

Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:57 PM (9UmRs)

569 513 Has Mike Pence made any statements about any of this?

I mean, being the VP and directly effected, one would think he'd be backing up Powell's claims that there's something big about to be revealed.

Has he made any indications?
Posted by: Blago at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (gkdnV)


Mike was working the new COVID vaccine information press conference, saying they are ready to go and distribute it as soon as they get a green light.
Keeping the official message separated from the election message.

Smart PR.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 08:57 PM (sy5kK)

570 Right now, the legal issue before the Trump team is stopping
certification that the elections were both fair and honest in those six
states. That is an easier remedy in courts than seeking Trump to be
declared the victor. Contrary to Dem propaganda about Bush v. Gore,
Bush had it won via certification of Florida's vote--Gore was trying to
overturn the certification. All Bush had to do was persuade the court
that the recounts asked by Gore created an equal protection problem due
to counties differing vote standards which the Court so found.



In Trump v. contested states, his legal path is different in each state.




----

And yet the paths are very similar and most will be an argument that non-legislative rules created due process issues and allowed some voters unequal protection under the law (and were, besides, unconstitutional under article 1 section 4).

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:57 PM (946rW)

571 The internet. Try using it sometimes.
Posted by: bat nationalist at November 19, 2020 08:50 PM (gC1MQ)

Not sure Brian in New Orleans has gotten the gist of this web site...I get it, its nuanced. But here it is:

"Most if not everyone here believes the election was stolen in some measure large and small and, while hoping that might get proven in court, are not sure it will be and are apprehensive about that."

This understanding should help Brian of New Orleans realize that his pontifications about proofs and being convinced are irrelevant to nearly everyone posting here. Alas, this understanding is just a hope, one that I have.

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 08:58 PM (w2LAm)

572 Because judges are loathe to overturn an election.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2020 08:56 PM (0mP7b)

They are not.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:58 PM (946rW)

573 They're all hiding in the tall grass the last couple days and not answering the phones.
Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:49 PM (9UmRs)

Answering to your constituents is just not done dear boy. They might get ideas about accountability!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar


If Biden wins, they'll never have to answer to constituents again.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2020 08:59 PM (0mP7b)

574 Well... if this is true, the affidavit needs to be corrected to read Minnesota not Michigan. It does not affect the crux of the argument though.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 08:50 PM (946rW)

Unless the case is built solely or exclusively on this singular testimony, its retarded to suggest that the suit is a goner...everyone, I mean everyone, makes mistakes in cases, my best friend tells me all the time about his, some are pretty hilarious and accidental ...but most if not all are not fatal. And he runs the number 3 largest white collar crime firm in the world right now.

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 08:50 PM (w2LAm)

I would hope someone at Powerline or from somewhere is trying or hopefully, has succeeded in notifying Trump's lawyers about this. Because if this comes out...no matter what other strong evidence they have...you know THIS is the ONLY thing the media will report and point and laugh.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 09:00 PM (cF8AT)

575 389 Tucker threw Sidney under the bus. He asked her to come in and show some evidence. She asked them to stop contacting her.
Posted by: Jaimo at November 19, 2020 08:11 PM (NXGjq)

Maybe he's playing sensationalist contrarian (which he's done in the past). Sidney is smart not to show all her cards now. And she doesn't answer to him.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 19, 2020 09:00 PM (H8QX8)

576 I've snail mailed a few times, they're not answering email either.

Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:53 PM (9UmRs)

Keep at it clutch... it is so important. I am bugging my sister to get her grown kids in MI to keep calling too.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 09:00 PM (946rW)

577 >>Look at this in Michigan! A day AFTER the election, Biden receives a dump of 134,886 votes at 6:31AM!


Same pattern as Wisconsin and PA. Sorry, this is real evidence. These things are statistically impossible.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 09:01 PM (ZLI7S)

578 If Biden wins, they'll never have to answer to constituents again.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 19, 2020 08:59 PM (0mP7b)

The 3:00 update on the radio after Rush said PDT was meeting Friday with the MI House speaker and senate majority leader, both squishy Repubs.
So, at least they will answer him, if not me.

Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 09:01 PM (9UmRs)

579 Boo

Posted by: HINT at November 19, 2020 09:02 PM (cp0RJ)

580

"Voter fraud is actually election official fraud."

- Jenna Ellis, Trump Sr. legal member today

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 09:04 PM (sy5kK)

581 you know THIS is the ONLY thing the media will report and point and laugh.
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 09:00 PM (cF8AT

Tami - Hindraker hates Trump, he dug through the filing and found a mistake, he says, and is crowing...again, unless its central to the case, its a side issue, and can actually get cut out or dropped in future proceedings...he's an ass since he knows this well enough. He's probably made similar mistakes in initial presentation of evidence, so he's not fooling anyone that's done it.

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 09:06 PM (w2LAm)

582 576 I've snail mailed a few times, they're not answering email either.

Posted by: clutch at November 19, 2020 08:53 PM (9UmRs)

Keep at it clutch... it is so important. I am bugging my sister to get her grown kids in MI to keep calling too.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 19, 2020 09:00 PM (946rW)
**************
Everyone needs to write letters and make phone calls M-F. So important.
Also, while your at it contribute to the Loeffler and Perdue campaign.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 19, 2020 09:06 PM (NpAcC)

583 Tami - Hindraker hates Trump, he dug through the filing and found a mistake, he says, and is crowing...again, unless its central to the case, its a side issue, and can actually get cut out or dropped in future proceedings...he's an ass since he knows this well enough. He's probably made similar mistakes in initial presentation of evidence, so he's not fooling anyone that's done it.
Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 09:06 PM (w2LAm)

I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I'm just saying in this case, there can be no errors. The media will crucify them.

Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 09:09 PM (cF8AT)

584 >>I'd almost....ALMOST....be willing to accept a Biden Obama presidency if I
thought it would be the spur this country GOPe needs to get serious about
election integrity us willing to abandon them..

Does any of that sound familiar?
WAR. We TAKE our country back BAMN. Get in their faces.

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 19, 2020 09:09 PM (aR6C/)

585 Why on earth, after the treatment FARCE NEWS gave the team today, would Sidney go and be badgered by Tucker for an hour?

He didn't throw her under the bus.
She told him to bugger off.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 09:09 PM (CZm2G)

586 That's what happens to guys who bat for the wrong team.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 09:10 PM (CZm2G)

587 Wow... well thanks for editing out my strikethru text pixy... or firefox

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 19, 2020 09:10 PM (aR6C/)

588 570 redbanzai,

In PA, the primary issues were allowing post 8 PM ballots by PA Sup. Ct. ruling as well as banning observers, etc. Sup. Ct. tied 4-4 with ACB as to whether to grant the preliminary injunction but Alito send a warning to PA to segregate the ballots because the Sup. Ct. might rule against the PA courts having usurped the Art. II role of legislatures in apportioning its electors via rules.

The GA as well as WI, MI seems to be more like PA in that votes were counted where voters did not exist in Wayne County, NV is the oddball which still at the last time that I checked had not completed its vote tally but the DJT team is ready with dead voters, changes that eliminated security checks on mail in ballots, etc.

The point is in an election challenge, you do not have to prove that you won, but that the voting and counting procedures are so flawed and out of whack that there was no certain winner.

The usual remedy is another election which is actually commonly done in local, a bit less but happens at the state level, and occasionally at the federal level (see NC House race this year where it happened).

But, Article II has alternative paths for the president where the political branches can decide--e.g. the legislatures of those states and the Congress itself. So judges could simply rule that the count was invalid and leave it to the political branches to thresh out who wins.

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 09:11 PM (pO7gM)

589 I don't disagree with anything you're saying. I'm just saying in this case, there can be no errors. The media will crucify them.
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 09:09 PM (cF8AT)

Then their gonna have a field day - as my wife says all the time - there are no perfect cases...

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 09:11 PM (w2LAm)

590 Hinderaker is a middling cocksucker.
He's blueblood GOPe banker.
He and Andy McCarthy are bunk buddies.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 09:12 PM (CZm2G)

591 Tami,
Mistakes can happen in filings, especially under tight deadlines, and this is an issue when you are contesting six different states with different state laws and policies plus the federal overlay.

Usually the court allows amending the questionable material under these conditions.

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 09:13 PM (pO7gM)

592 @581

Hindraker and Co. are positioning themselves to be aligned with access to the power center of a Biden administration.

Their blog isn't called "Powerline" for nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 19, 2020 09:13 PM (XYHTz)

593

So it will come down to what evidence she has. Why does it have to be "extraordinary"? What does that even mean?

It just has to evidence convincing enough to satisfy the burden of proof.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 19, 2020 08:53 PM (XYHTz)

Have you seen the actual voting counts from precincts that were all a perfect 50% - 49% for every count, after the Dump and Roll in all the swing states? Every one of them, and VA, too.

Statistically impossible, and other proof as well.

There is a lot of evidence. And more coming in, like more witnesses that saw illegalities, and experts who have conclusions from actual vote results, continue to paint the pallet with a picture of crime.

The court is the proper venue to unfurl the entire scheme and players.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 09:13 PM (sy5kK)

594 The media will crucify them.
Posted by: Tami at November 19, 2020 09:09 PM (cF8AT)


He's not on Trump's team. It's an independent suit.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 19, 2020 09:14 PM (CZm2G)

595 Usually the court allows amending the questionable material under these conditions.
Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 09:13 PM (pO7gM)

Thanks whig - you addressed the issue I tried to explain in a much more succinct manner...

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 09:16 PM (w2LAm)

596 FWIW,
Breitbart has an outline of the nine points of evidence that the PDT legal team will use to focus their legal efforts that the elections were not fair and honest as required by the law.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y3nnnm6k

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 09:16 PM (pO7gM)

597 Anyone near Milwaukee this Saturday - meet up for the MAGA rally in Wauwatosa, Mayfair Mall at 11 a.m. Sheriff David Clarke is organizer. Sounds like the Proud Boys will be there for security. This is it.
Sheriff Clarke hosted Mark Bellings program this afternoon and detailed out the plans. Listen to Proud Boys International President at about 1:21 time.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-the-mark-belling-show-24992319/

Posted by: New Leaf at November 19, 2020 09:17 PM (WyTzs)

598 Reindeer Priebus on Hannity is saying massive fraud in WI
Rewrote Manuel yesterday on absentee voting.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 19, 2020 09:18 PM (NpAcC)

599 damn autocorrect should be REINCE.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 19, 2020 09:19 PM (NpAcC)

600 595, you are welcome Boswell.

The legal world is a bit weird compared with the regular world and even within the legal world, you have the different specialties that might as well be talking Greek to each other.

Election law is a weird hybrid of constitutional, statutory, and administrative law and most election lawyers are actually hired by campaigns for regulatory compliance--not challenging results.

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 09:19 PM (pO7gM)

601 @593

Right. Ordinary evidence will suffice. And there's PLENTY of it, with more rolling in every day.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 19, 2020 09:19 PM (XYHTz)

602 593 LeftCoastDawg,
I agree with you. It is better to lay out the evidence in court rather than try to play with a treacherous media.

Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 09:20 PM (pO7gM)

603 Make it about elections integrity not trump

Posted by: Hmm at November 19, 2020 09:22 PM (cp0RJ)

604 @603 Make it about AOS comment deletions

Posted by: Canada at November 19, 2020 09:23 PM (+CYtv)

605 I mean re flags shirts etc. try 1776

Posted by: Hmm at November 19, 2020 09:24 PM (cp0RJ)

606 537 Tucker Carlson could write his own ticket. That he continues to ride with FOX says everything we need to know about the man.
Posted by: creeper at November 19, 2020 08:40 PM (+Ta2A)

I'm not so harsh on Tucker as you are, creeper. It takes a while to get out of some of those contracts. Tucker has earned his credibility with me, and he remains with a large platform to state his views.

But his credibility is getting some seawater on it with the FIX News insistence on drilling a big hole in the bottom of the hull of the S.S. FOX.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 09:24 PM (sy5kK)

607 >>Right. Ordinary evidence will suffice. And there's PLENTY of it, with more rolling in every day.

@CodeMonkeyZ

There is more coming out on Saturday! Stay tuned you may be shocked.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 09:25 PM (ZLI7S)

608 There's no evidence and this place looks crazier by the day,

Posted by: Canada at November 19, 2020 09:26 PM (+CYtv)

609 606: Don't be so hard on people. The country is melting down. Tucker should bail - but your right - he's a blueblood and wants his money and reputation so won't break his contract.

Posted by: New Leaf at November 19, 2020 09:26 PM (WyTzs)

610 Election law is a weird hybrid of constitutional, statutory, and administrative law and most election lawyers are actually hired by campaigns for regulatory compliance--not challenging results.
Posted by: whig at November 19, 2020 09:19 PM (pO7gM)

Boy, ain't that the truth...my head spins. I get business contract law where I need to navigate, and my wife and friend know white collar crime, but election laws and procedures seem so confusing and awash in the political - it seems just about impossible to war game out any outcome here.

Posted by: Boswell at November 19, 2020 09:26 PM (w2LAm)

611 Lt. General McInerny believed MH370 was flown to Pakistan too. I wouldn't put any credence in any thing he says outside of possibly general military knowledge.

Posted by: Baldy at November 19, 2020 09:27 PM (OLCH5)

612 577 >>Look at this in Michigan! A day AFTER the election, Biden receives a dump of 134,886 votes at 6:31AM!


Same pattern as Wisconsin and PA. Sorry, this is real evidence. These things are statistically impossible.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2020 09:01 PM (ZLI7S)

Impossible on top of impossible on top of impossible.

yeah, nothing to see here, move on, comrade.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 19, 2020 09:28 PM (sy5kK)

613 >"I really want to believe Powell has the goods, but "extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence.

Why is it an "extraordinary claim" that there was massive vote fraud in this election? And even if were an "extraordinary claim", a preponderance of regular evidence will do just fine to satisfy the burden of proof.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 19, 2020 08:31 PM (XYHTz)


The "extraordinary claim" is that in multiple states they just found half a million votes for Biden out back by the dumpster at o'dark thirty after they stopped counting for no apparent reason.

Elections are supposed to be the most transparent mechanism in any society and belligerent refusal to allow that transparency discredits the whole process.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 19, 2020 09:41 PM (/Dgcm)

614 So you telling me that it was at RNC HQ and there were four Trump people present -- but NO GD REPUBLICANs?!!!!!

Why wasn't the entire GOP Congressional delegation present? Too busy being fisted by kamala?

Posted by: Gilded at November 19, 2020 09:41 PM (defHz)

615 So more than 2 weeks after the election, when I went to the correct place to vote, & they made me do provisional, they still can't find my ballot when I check online. Allegheny County, PA of course.

Posted by: Baldy at November 19, 2020 09:44 PM (OLCH5)

616 LeftCoast DawgWow, her parents were astronauts. I guess she is trying to live up to their achievements or something.
She's a tool.

Posted by: President-Elect pj at November 19, 2020 10:17 PM (qlTN9)

617 So none of you fucking idiots saw Rudy sweating so profusely his shitty dye job started running down his face, looking like the bad nosferatu impersonator?
Ace, please, you use to be so good, and now you just constantly suck Trump's little orange dick.

Posted by: BearFlag at November 20, 2020 01:37 AM (jDK37)

618 If the US Supreme Court ignores the monstrous violations of Pennsylvania's Constitutionally protected election law and thereby allows 682,000 ILLEGALLY tabulated ballots to disenfranchise 3.4 MILLION _LEGALLY_ CAST PENNSYLVANIAN VOTES FOR TRUMP: then the US Supreme Court will be taking a giant shit on our beloved Constitution.

A bogus margin of 69,000 illegally tabulated ballots will be allowed to cancel out 3.4 MILLION legal votes in the State of Pennsylvania!

Yes, this will indeed be the taking of a giant shit on democracy and the rule of law in America.
By looking the other way, the US Supreme Court will become complicit in this tyrannical fraud, in this Republic-destroying coup.

Will 2020 be the year that SCOTUS takes a big shit on America and its Constitution?


Posted by: cold civil war at November 20, 2020 05:28 AM (Z2PYk)

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