Dr. COVID, or How We Learned to Stop Worrying and Love 2020 [As Told By: Shibumi & Bozo Conservative]

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Shibumi:

Just to set the record straight, I'm self-employed and work at home. Earlier this year, I moved to hillbilly Ohio, oh, sorry, redneck Ohio, so it's not like there's 10,000 things to see and do here. I go to the grocery store. I go to the big box home improvement stores. I go to Walmart and Big Lots. I have the most boring life ever.

Since I don't go out much, there was no way I was going to get COVID. No way.

Although I wasn't planning on being sick, I do have an interest in alternative medicine. When COVID first started, I did a lot of research, and thought that quercetin might be useful in the fight against it. It's related to hydroxychloroquine; they are both zinc ionophores; they open a cell up and let zinc in to kill the infectious agent. Like COVID. I bought some of this, just to be safe:

Purchased goods.


We've purchased things through Life Extension before, and we like the company. This dosage is equivalent to 500mg quercetin. I also picked up 50mg of zinc. The suggested treatment for COVID with this combination is:

1 bio-quercetin + 1 50mg zinc 2x daily (am/pm) for 7 days.

I put it aside and didn't think about it. This was probably in late April or May.

So, one Saturday night in late October, I got chilled. I ignored it and bundled up for a few hours, and ignored it. But I still remained chilled. I also had a bad dry cough. I ignored it all for most of the evening, but then decided to take my temperature. It was 102.

The next morning, I started on the bio-quercetin/ zinc combination, with either ibuprofen, aspirin or Tylenol, every four to six hours, since my temperature remained high. I honestly thought it was the flu, since I had no shortness of breath or loss of taste/smell. If you look at the symptoms of the flu vs. COVID, they are exactly the same. Pneumonia also has very similar symptoms. I did try to self‐quarantine at home, at least for the first few days. The first two days I slept a lot. After that, I felt better, and was able to work on my laptop and watch tv. I was NOT severely ill and did not even consider seeing a doctor or going to the hospital. As I said, I thought it was the flu.

That all being said, I had a fever for seven days. And then... it went away. And I felt fine, although I suspected that I might have a secondary bronchial infection, since I had a productive cough. For that, I took echinacea for about five days. I never went to the doctors, and have been fever free for two weeks. I currently have no symptoms and was advised against getting tested.

There is, however, another part of the story. About four days after I got sick, Bozo Conservative (aka 'the husband') started having symptoms. FYI, he is Of A Certain age and has high blood pressure which is being treated. This was about Oct 28.

Bozo Conservative:

And....we were out of quercetin. I had foreseen this and ordered more from Amazon, but the order was late/cancelled. So I only had quercetin for a few days, then out. My fever was steady for days (99-103), although I took Ibuprofen and aspirin, which tamped it down. My appetite started to wane after a few days, and I started to feel nauseous all the time. I was not drinking enough fluids, and was de-hydrating and getting weaker. I didn't want to eat either, and was sleeping a lot.


Shibumi:

At one point, I remembered that Ace of Spades commenter Sharkman had something that was useful for COVID. A few months ago, I wrote down his contact information.

So... I emailed Sharkman, and he sent over a supplement called Cell Armour that is not available in the U.S. Sharkman works for a company in California that manufactures Cell Armour and sells it through a company in Hong Kong. Sharkman can provide a scientific spec sheet for it. Bozo Conservative took it for five days; we're not sure if it helped or not. That being said, it certainly did not hurt, and to be honest, it might have kept him from getting much, much sicker.

For those interested, Sharkman can be reached at eventhorizonescapee@gmail.com. Other morons had luck with the Cell Armour; I'm not sure if Bozo Conservative did or not, since he was already quite far along in his infection. And wouldn't see a doctor or go to the hospital. We can't thank Sharkman enough for his thoughtfulness and generosity. He's a really great guy.


Bozo Conservative:

On Nov 7, Shibumi took me to the Emergency at Mt Carmel East Hospital in Columbus. I was put on an IV, had a chest X-ray and a Covid19 nose swab.

Results of the swab were COVID positive, reinforced by the chest X-ray. Went home that night --the hospital was booked at 124% level with no available rooms--and went back to bed. I still felt pretty lousy, and was getting weaker; I was given something for the nausea and an antibiotic, which made me sick. On Monday, I had a medical telecon with my physician, when she told me I also had pneumonia, and gave me a different antibiotic. Shibumi bought a little pulse-oxygen meter (available on Amazon for just $17), and my blood-oxygen level was 80-84%, which was much too low.

On a second medical telecon with my doctor on Thursday, she told me to get to a hospital. ASAP.

This is important. REALLY important. Find a hospital with rooms, because a lot of hospitals are filled up now. We didn't go into Columbus, which is a dark red COVID zone [COVID map here: https://infection2020.com/] . We went to the city east of us, which is our county seat.

The ambulance showed up and put me on oxygen immediately. This made me feel a lot better and my oxygen level went up to more normal 92-93%.

I went to Licking Memorial Hospital in Newark, which is a relatively small regional hospital. I went into emergency, started getting an IV (saline) and Remdisivir. It was the first Remdisivir of three doses. I had another chest x-ray, and then was taken out for CT Scan, to look for blood clots in my chest and abdomen; I was clear. The nurse also gave me Dexamethasone (lung inflammation), and a technician came into the room to do an ultrasound on my abdominal organs, looking for any clotting damage; none was found. After being there about 7 hours, I finally got into a room in the COVID isolation ward. I got a bottle of water and a ham sandwich. Yay. I went to sleep about 2 am, after getting poked and prodded and blood sampled out the ying-yang.


Shibumi:

There is a procedure being followed at hospitals. When you walk in, then give you both a temperature check. You are allowed to take the patient up to the desk in the lobby, but that is as far as you can go. Make sure your loved one has a CHARGED cell phone with them; they will be able to use it. You will not be allowed to sit in the lobby or go any farther with your loved one. You will be exiled to... your car in the parking lot. Waiting. For hours.

At Mt Caramel, they gave me a number to call to reach the nurse. At Licking Memorial, I was able to talk to the supervisor and a nurse about Bozo Conservatives' condition; both came to meet me in the small lobby area.

The rest of the time I spent texting Bozo Conservative, since he was short of breath, and that was easier than talking.


Bozo Conservative:

Friday came, my appetite had returned, and ate three good meals that day.

My blood was sampled more, and I received an IV with Azithromycin and saline, to fight the secondary infection from pneumonia, if any. I then received 2 units of antibody plasma --it came in cold-- the then later the second IV of Remdisivir. The antibody plasma was shipped in from D.C.

Saturday was pretty quiet. They took me off oxygen to see how my blood gases would go, and it was now steady as 93-94%. I received more Azithromycin, Dexamethasone tablets, and the third Remdisivir IV just before they released me Saturday night. My temperature now was normal and under control. Came home Saturday night, and I am now getting stronger and recovering.

I have no idea what was most effective in treatment, but according to people I have talked to (indirectly), the Dexamethasone, Remdisivir and antibody plasma are now the standard treatments for Covid 19. I still have a little shortness of breath, but it is getting a whole lot better.

Overall, I think +99% of people will shake this off. I expected to shake it off, and I got a lot worse. I have high blood pressure, which might have had a pretty negative effect on the progress of my infection and my recovery, plus I had gotten pneumonia. I think the masks are useless; trying to stop mosquitoes with a chain link fence. The important thing is to protect people with serious co-morbidities. Two people that my sister has known have died of COVID19 complications; one was a 72 year old woman with some serious heart congestion problems prior to the disease, and the other was her son who was 42--a big guy who was overweight who had diabetes. Really tragic. There were several older people in the COVID 19 ward at the hospital that were in bad shape and intubated to help them breathe; that is actually just about a death sentence.

There are several strains of the COVID 19 out there; some may be more dangerous than others. Take Vitamin D3 and Vitamin C to boost your immune system. Bio quercetin and Zinc seemed to help Shibumi shake it off and recover.


Shibumi:

It was my idea to write this. If we had not gone to the smaller hospital, I don't know what would have happened. It could have gone very, very badly. So if you're in this position, find out what hospitals are admitting emergency COVID patients. If you're in a dark red COVID infection area, consider going to a neighboring county that is not as infected, if you can.

Also...make sure your loved one has a charged cell phone with them and their charger. And be extremely vigilant when they are being discharged. I've gone through many hospital discharge situations in the past, and it's easy to make mistakes and forget something. This is even worse, since you are not standing there listening to the nurse. We were lucky; Bozo Conservative's nurse called and went over the discharge instructions with me over the phone, and then sent him home with detailed, precise instructions. I am now considered COVID positive, because I live with someone who has it and did have symptoms.

Finally... I think he should change his nickname to "Bozo Conservative, Plague Husband."


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We are happy to hear you two love birds have recovered from the Chinese Kung Flu. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us this morning. You have provided very valuable information.

The Saturday Morning Coffee Break returns next Saturday November 28th God willing and the creeks don't rise.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at 09:00 AM




Comments

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1 I wanted the China Flu.

I begged for the China Flu.

I waited for the China Flu.

No China Flu.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 21, 2020 09:05 AM (R/m4+)

2 2010 Huffpost article about Dominion's Venezuela ties before it gets erased. (Remove spaces on link)

https://m.huffpost.com/
us/entry/us_620084?guccounter=1

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 21, 2020 09:07 AM (ftFVW)

3 Is the Plague Husband mask as cool as the Plague Doctor mask?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 21, 2020 09:08 AM (u0qNR)

4 Good morning Horde. Shibumi and Bozo I am glad that your story has a happy ending, thanks for all of the information.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz, Trump Won at November 21, 2020 09:08 AM (a4EWo)

5 Hospital booze looks like blended whiskey/scotch.

Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2020 09:09 AM (AwYPR)

6 I like to think of them as Shibozo.

Posted by: Texican ette at November 21, 2020 09:10 AM (8TfZ+)

7 I like to think of them as Shibozo.
Posted by: Texican ette


Better than Bozshumi!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 09:11 AM (ZCiJZ)

8 "The Good Lawd willin' and the crick don't rise" is how we say it 'round these here parts.

Glad you guys pulled through! Sorry you had such a rough time!

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at November 21, 2020 09:12 AM (rWZ8Y)

9 Sipped a whole cup reading the content. Some things are more important than a First.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2020 09:12 AM (DMUuz)

10 Happy to hear you are both doing much better.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 21, 2020 09:13 AM (+2xjH)

11 Shibumi and Bozo, Thanks for sharing your story! I live in your area and have been a patient at both Mt. Carmel East and Licking Memorial. You are absolutely right about finding the right hospital with beds. If I can help you folks in any way, always ready to help fellow Morons. mjscanlonoh at gmail is my addy...Thank God you both are recovering, and the medication information is priceless...

Posted by: MJSOH at November 21, 2020 09:13 AM (1Yuo3)

12 Also, I've heard Candiru are an effective alternative to get blood samples out the yin-yang.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 21, 2020 09:14 AM (DMUuz)

13 Glad you both are so much better.

Good call on going to Licking Mem. They have a good rep. You folks know I'm in Delaware County - if either of you need anything at all, my email is in my nic.

Please don't hesitate to reach out if needed.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2020 09:18 AM (Rvt88)

14 One of the big fights will continue to be over Nancy's fake stimulus package. These c*cksuckers will threaten to tank the economy with Covid unless they get what they want. Which is a huge bailout of Blue places, and Nancy's wish list of things like mandatory national vote harvesting.

As we keep throwing trillions around, don't forget that wasteful spending is always an opportunity cost. We could have done something useful with those trillions. Huge things, luxurious things. Or put it in our pockets.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 21, 2020 09:21 AM (9TdxA)

15

Wow, glad you are okay now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 21, 2020 09:21 AM (sfhL4)

16 I actually know where Newark/Licking Co. are. Been there! Zanesville, home of the world famous "Y" bridge,
too.

Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2020 09:22 AM (AwYPR)

17 Thank you for this story with the happy ending.

Glad you both are doing better.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 21, 2020 09:22 AM (u82oZ)

18 Thanks for sharing your experience.

I'm glad you both are recovering!

Posted by: Evasiveboat42 at November 21, 2020 09:23 AM (Rz2Nc)

19 I dropped in to drop this:

Newt Gingrich @newtgingrich

My friend Barry Casselman reports "Two key DFL MN state senators have switched
parties and will now caucus with the GOP,
giving conservatives a 34-29 margin. A big
story with national implications!" The blue wave is gradually being replaced by a red tide

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 21, 2020 09:23 AM (sfhL4)

20 Thanks so much for sharing your story and for providing a wealth of valuable information. Glad you are both on the other side of this and doing well.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at November 21, 2020 09:23 AM (R1NI2)

21 Please don't hesitate to reach out if needed.
Posted by: Tonypete


Thanks.

We're both fine now. I really feel pretty good, just my stamina is down. I get tired easily, but that's getting better.

Biggest recommendation is to take Vitamin D

Everybody is probably short of Vitamin D3 in their blood stream, and there has been found a STRONG correlation between that and resisting Covid 19.

I take about 4000 IU a day now (was taking 2000 IU a day prior).
And Vitamin C.

If you are concerned, get the Quercetin and Zinc, and have it on hand, just in case. Not expensive at all. It really seemed to help Shibumi

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 09:23 AM (ZCiJZ)

22 Read the content, so imma first-elect, see?

Posted by: Banned at November 21, 2020 09:24 AM (VQfTH)

23 I actually know where Newark/Licking Co. are. Been there! Zanesville, home of the world famous "Y" bridge,
too.
Posted by: BignJames

Getting directions in Zanesville: Go to the middle of the bridge and take a left.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2020 09:24 AM (Rvt88)

24 MJSOH and Tonypete... thank you for your kind words and offers for help.

Things have been challenging here for me because I spent the bulk of my life in Michigan, and know what hospitals are good there, and had great doctors. I've had to start all over here, and it's been a learning experience.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 09:24 AM (ZCiJZ)

25 If you are concerned, get the Quercetin and Zinc, and have it on hand, just in case. Not expensive at all. It really seemed to help Shibumi

Posted by: Bozo Conservative.... HE'S HEALED!!

Thanks Brother - we are fully stock up here just in case.

And, as you folks mentioned, Sharkman is the man!!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2020 09:26 AM (Rvt88)

26 My theory is that the effectiveness of the two vaccines is high because the Wu flu is not all that robust and there is already a a considerable amount of resilience among the population.
I'm not a medical professional but neither are the scare-mongering media and politicians.

Posted by: Fortune Cookie Editor at November 21, 2020 09:28 AM (FsgBK)

27 And, as you folks mentioned, Sharkman is the man!!

Posted by: Tonypete


Yes he is. I can't thank him enough for his consideration and generosity. He did the same thing for Grammie Winger's grandson, and probably others.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 09:29 AM (ZCiJZ)

28 Excellent post! Thanks so much for writing this up! So glad you are both on the road to recovery.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at November 21, 2020 09:29 AM (3GzTP)

29 28 Excellent post! Thanks so much for writing this up! So glad you are both on the road to recovery.
Posted by: one of the quiet ones at November 21, 2020 09:29 AM (3GzTP)

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Amen.

Posted by: SMH at November 21, 2020 09:30 AM (RU4sa)

30 Shibozo! Very glad both of you are okay now.

Posted by: bluebell at November 21, 2020 09:34 AM (/669Q)

31 Read the twitter account from

@johnheretohelp

You don't have to belong to twitter to read his stuff.
More election fraud news. Maryland news in his latest info drop.

He's also the guy that explains why Judge Sullivan won't let Flynn go.

Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 21, 2020 09:34 AM (CFTBk)

32 Also... there are side effects from quercetin for people with certain conditions: https://tinyurl.com/ujg8j6s


LOL. The landing page on this site says it's not good for COVID.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 09:34 AM (ZCiJZ)

33 Jeffrey Dahmer:

No one is going to tell me how many people I can have for Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 21, 2020 09:35 AM (9TdxA)

34 Very useful reporting. We need more straight up information like this. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: IanDeal at November 21, 2020 09:35 AM (vgGyZ)

35 My theory is that the effectiveness of the two vaccines is high because the Wu flu is not all that robust and there is already a a considerable amount of resilience among the population.
I'm not a medical professional but neither are the scare-mongering media and politicians.
Posted by: Fortune Cookie Editor


We're really concerned about getting the vaccines. They are mRNA vaccines, and will work to change your DNA to produce Covid T-cell antibodies.
There is NO long term knowledge about what mRNA vaccines will do to you.
There are rumors of sterility following administration.

Shibumi has a very good friend that works with pharmaceutical companies doing chemo clinical trials. She is pretty Lefty, but she absolutely will not take the vaccine, because she thinks it could be very dangerous.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 09:36 AM (ZCiJZ)

36 14 "One of the big fights will continue to be over Nancy's fake stimulus
package. These c*cksuckers will threaten to tank the economy with Covid
unless they get what they want. Which is a huge bailout of Blue
places, and Nancy's wish list of things like mandatory national vote
harvesting."


She might as well double or triple her monetary requests and throw every leftist wet dream into it. That way the GOP Senate can give her more then she actually wanted when they agree to 3/4 of it and still declare a win. Just like old times.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 21, 2020 09:36 AM (4thlk)

37 Regarding a vaccine, I have a very close friend that manages clinical drug trials. She is also a big time liberal.

She said the trials for the COVID drugs have been botched horribly, and she will NOT take it. She also added "it WILL kill people."

Finally, it is an mRNA vaccine which alters your DNA. These have NOT been tested in the past, and there are NO long term tests of these vaccines.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 09:36 AM (ZCiJZ)

38 I think the best cure for Covid 19 and a host of other world problems is to nuclear incinerate the Chicoms. Just my humble opinion

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2020 09:37 AM (85Gof)

39 With content like this AoS is going to get the reputation as a smart medical blog.

Glad to hear you were both able to kick this.

On top of probably both getting things started by taking the right medication, it seems one of your best choices was getting to a hospital where the staff knew what they were doing and actually cared enough to help thier patients, which both probably has a lot to do with a big chunk of the deaths, where hospitals chose the wrong course of treatment (either through lack of knowledge or stubbornness to stay the course instead of trying something new) and eventually many just became complacent, figuring it was a 100% death rate so why even bother trying to change things, just hook'em up to a vent and move on.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 21, 2020 09:38 AM (XwTyM)

40 The lives saved by the vaccines will be credited to Biden, whose brave leadership brought them to fruition in record time.

Those with unfortunate side effects go to Trump, who rushed the product without sufficient testing.

This is a game so easy, you can play at home.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 21, 2020 09:41 AM (9TdxA)

41 You want me to report the news?

You can't handle the news.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 21, 2020 09:41 AM (pB6Gt)

42 For those who are what one might call COVID deniers, the vast majority of people who get this will recover without going to the doctor. The friend that does clinical drug trials is in Seattle and got it extremely early; her health is not all that good, yet she kicked it without a doctor. I know a few others who are in the mid/late 50's who have some health issues and they got over it.


That being said, there are different strains; right now, they told me there are two different strains in the Columbus area. Your experiences might vary.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 09:42 AM (ZCiJZ)

43 Thank you, Shibumi and Bozo Conservative!

Posted by: m at November 21, 2020 09:43 AM (7d/2N)

44 26My theory is that the effectiveness of the two vaccines is high because the Wu flu is not all that robust and there is already a a considerable amount of resilience among the population.
I'm not a medical professional but neither are the scare-mongering media and politicians.

Posted by: Fortune Cookie Editor at November 21, 2020 09:28 AM (FsgBK)


There were a few studies in the last week that seemed to point to us having a cross immunity from other Flus. So if you have those T-Cells you'll possibly get Covid but have little to no symptoms.

I think your theory also holds some water, add this new vaccine, made in record time, supposedly has a much higher rates than the normal Flu vaccine which they've been working on for decades.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 21, 2020 09:43 AM (XwTyM)

45 I think the best cure for Covid 19 and a host of other world problems is to nuclear incinerate the Chicoms. Just my humble opinion
Posted by: Nevergiveup


My company works a lot with the Chinese, and I have been to China a few times. Most Chinese are super nice people, and it is fun watching them argue with government flunkies.
The government is tyrannical and terrible, what they did to the Falun Gong and now Muslim Uighurs is really bad.
Fauci perpetuated the "wet market" origin myth, which is provably false.
The virus has been genetically sequenced, and it has HIV peptide sequences in it, which evolution or nature could never have put in there.

In 2015, there was a big debate in the Virology (in the US) community about modifying virus to potentiate them to create stronger vaccines. American scientists decided that was unethical and would not do it.

So Fauci (Bill Gates, and others) funneled money to the Wuhan lab to do this research. There are a lot of published papers about this.
It came out of Wuhan, and the CCP has now used it as a global bio-weapon to gain economic advantage. That was not the original plan ( I believe), but how it has worked out.
Fauci (spit) has played along. He is a very poor doctor and unethical man.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 09:44 AM (ZCiJZ)

46 2 2010 Huffpost article about Dominion's Venezuela ties before it gets erased. (Remove spaces on link)

https://m.huffpost.com/
us/entry/us_620084?guccounter=1
Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 21, 2020 09:07 AM (ftFVW)

Fortunately, the article has been saved at archive.is.

Funny thing about that article is that the reporter speaks with Chris Riggald, spokesperson for Dominion. Before he worked there, he was the Secretary for the Secretary of State of Georgia.

Who was the Secretary of State of GA in 2010? Brian Kemp.

If Riggald didn't work directly for Kemp, I wouldn't be surprised if they knew each other.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 21, 2020 09:45 AM (QhOG6)

47 Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui says the Dominion Voting Systems was developed by Peking University's Founder Group.

Posted by: ZZZZZZZZ at November 21, 2020 09:45 AM (5XwFj)

48 Licking Memorial is the hospital I was born in. Good people, still love to come back to central Ohio.
Thanks for the information and we will add you and your husband to our prayers!

Posted by: Ellom at November 21, 2020 09:45 AM (FxHd9)

49 Thanks for the information and we will add you and your husband to our prayers!
Posted by: Ellom


Thank you for your thoughts. But a lot of people are pretty bad off right now. We're good now. God has helped us; I know my sister prays vigilantly, and she told me repeatedly she was praying for us.

In the earlier thread, I read where Vic had fallen and broken his hip.
Please pray for Vic and healing, he really needs the support.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 09:47 AM (ZCiJZ)

50 Ellom,


Thank you so much for your prayers, they are always appreciated! I think the key for us was going to a smaller hospital in an area that did not have as many COVID patients. I cannot say enough good things about Licking Memorial.

Also, every time I tell this story to my friends back in MI, I have to say "really, the name of the hospital is Licking Memorial. Really." LOL.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 09:48 AM (ZCiJZ)

51 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 21, 2020 09:23 AM (sfhL4)

The "red tide" is already conspiring on increasing immigration and H1B visas. They're red alright, but not in a good way.

Posted by: Deep dark depression, excessive misery at November 21, 2020 09:48 AM (ONvIw)

52 Glad to hear you guys are well, and great cautionary tale about treatment!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 09:48 AM (2C38g)

53 If the vaccine changes DNA to make the person sterile, and if only lefties get vaccinated....Voila!

Posted by: President-elect LASue at November 21, 2020 09:50 AM (wc6R6)

54 Please pray for Vic and healing, he really needs the support.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 09:47 AM (ZCiJZ)


Thanks for reposting this! I saw that something had happened to Vic but did not have time to track it down.
Prayers up!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 09:51 AM (2C38g)

55 Use pneumovax to protect against developing bacterial pneumonia due to COVID. Check my link for a recent blog post!

Posted by: scrood at November 21, 2020 09:52 AM (5S5p9)

56 Very good news that both Morons seem to have beaten the Wu-flu.


On the flip side, I received a call last evening from the wife of a very good friend up in Michigan. Late last week, he complained of shortness of breath and had a fever. She took him to the ER and he was admitted. Five days later, he died. Covid. 58 years old, but had two comorbidities. Damn.

Posted by: fly at November 21, 2020 09:52 AM (Us3pf)

57 If the vaccine changes DNA to make the person sterile, and if only lefties get vaccinated....Voila!
Posted by: President-elect LASue at November 21, 2020 09:50 AM (wc6R6)


Wasn't sterility a "minor" side-effect of some of the drug trials sponsored by Bill Gates in Africa and India?

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 09:52 AM (2C38g)

58 shibumi and Bozo, thanks for the updates and information. So glad you are both healed/healing.

I'm also in your general area--even further into redneck territory: Perry County.

Fairfield Medical Center is also a good option in this area. Quality care, and not overcrowded.

Posted by: April at November 21, 2020 09:52 AM (OX9vb)

59 It's easy for me to wave off Covid as just a political tool being used against Americans. Then someone you know gets it, and it's nasty-ass and now I want to nuke China from orbit.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at November 21, 2020 09:52 AM (99Nt9)

60
Thanks for this info.

My elderly mother is generally doing great, but she's had a few emergency visits to the hospital over the past three years -- had a bad cough she couldn't get over once (could have been early covid!) and a pancreatic blockage sort of thing. It all turned out okay.

If she needs to go in again and they want to keep us out, I don't know what I'll do. I expect this lockdown shit to persist through the end of 2021, especially in hospitals, especially in California. If anything happens to her, you might see me in the news.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 90% news-free! at November 21, 2020 09:53 AM (G51Gf)

61 Was expecting coffee break so warmed up last cup and got a bagel toasting but should have grabbed my mask instead I see.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2020 09:53 AM (9sWOw)

62 35 We're really concerned about getting the vaccines.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 09:36 AM (ZCiJZ)

But you don't have to get the vaccines, now that you've already had the illness. Right? Or is that not right?

Posted by: m at November 21, 2020 09:53 AM (7d/2N)

63 If the vaccine changes DNA to make the person sterile, and if only lefties get vaccinated....Voila!


So, as some of you know, I spend time in the crazysphere; it's beyond the whole "alt right conspiracy sites." They have been talking about the sterility thing and something else that is... kind of insane.


There has been concern that if you DNA is changed, that essentially you will not be considered human any more, and you will not be recognized by God when you die.


Also, the guy from the WEF who is pushing The Great Reset is a fan of transhumanism.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 09:55 AM (ZCiJZ)

64 "So Fauci (Bill Gates, and others) funneled money to the Wuhan lab to
do this research. There are a lot of published papers about this.

It came out of Wuhan, and the CCP has now used it as a global bio-weapon to gain economic advantage."

that sounds correct ...I wish I knew the science well enough to pin down exactly who is telling the truth on details. Judy Mikovits makes some big claims on this, and she was directly involved with Fauci "stealing" work from someone else ...


Mikovits has books on this stuff ... going back to 2014. BigPharma come up with incredible stuff, but Money seems to drive the bus. This is a Mikovits interview ... it fits in with the standard operating procedure of these globalists that try to run the world via their institutions, which control us in nefarious ways. (BigTech, BigBank, FakeElection ... all undermining our liberty)


https://tinyurl.com/yyfpu8af

Posted by: illiniwek at November 21, 2020 09:55 AM (Cus5s)

65
Fauci perpetuated the "wet market" origin myth, which is provably false.
The virus has been genetically sequenced, and it has HIV peptide sequences in it, which evolution or nature could never have put in there.

In 2015, there was a big debate in the Virology (in the US) community about modifying virus to potentiate them to create stronger vaccines. American scientists decided that was unethical and would not do it.

So Fauci (Bill Gates, and others) funneled money to the Wuhan lab to do this research. There are a lot of published papers about this.
It came out of Wuhan, and the CCP has now used it as a global bio-weapon to gain economic advantage. That was not the original plan ( I believe), but how it has worked out.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron

========

Good lord. Interesting info.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 90% news-free! at November 21, 2020 09:56 AM (G51Gf)

66 I think the best cure for Covid 19 and a host of other world problems is to nuclear incinerate the Chicoms.
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Science!

Posted by: andycanuck at November 21, 2020 09:56 AM (UDapT)

67 But you don't have to get the vaccines, now that you've already had the illness. Right? Or is that not right?
Posted by: m

HA! You will comply with whatever we decide peon.
-- Stalinist Govenators and State Health Directors everywhere

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2020 09:58 AM (Rvt88)

68 Did not realize how seriously ill Ben Carson got with the Covid. He took Oleander extract and improved, but then started getting worse and took Regeneron, thanks to President Trump this drug saved his life.

https://tinyurl.com/y6taeelq

Posted by: redridinghood at November 21, 2020 09:58 AM (NpAcC)

69 "I never went to the doctors, and have been fever free for two weeks"

How are we ever going to get the Covid-19 statistics up that way?

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2020 09:58 AM (9sWOw)

70 On the flip side, I received a call last evening from the wife of a very
good friend up in Michigan. Late last week, he complained of shortness
of breath and had a fever. She took him to the ER and he was admitted.
Five days later, he died. Covid. 58 years old, but had two
comorbidities. Damn.


I'm so very sorry fly.

I think the key to this all are the co-morbidities; that might be why Bozo Conservative got very sick and I did not.

And I did not get really sick. Once I stopped the horrible chills and coughing, the fever didn't really bother me. For me, this was not nearly as bad as food poisoning or a bad stomach bug. I'd say it was kind of equal to a bout of bronchitis.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 09:59 AM (ZCiJZ)

71 Thanks for sharung, shibumi & bozo

so glad you are ok now
if I may ask, what high blood med is bozo on?

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 21, 2020 09:59 AM (nUhF0)

72 Glad you guys are feeling better.

>>It's easy for me to wave off Covid as just a political tool being used against Americans. Then someone you know gets it, and it's nasty-ass and now I want to nuke China from orbit.

Read this thread and you will want it even more.

https://tinyurl.com/y23yamhy

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2020 09:59 AM (ZLI7S)

73 andycanuck that will just prevent the next pandemic

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2020 09:59 AM (9sWOw)

74 HA! You will comply with whatever we decide peon.
-- Stalinist Govenators and State Health Directors everywhere
Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2020 09:58 AM (Rvt8


Comrade Citizen Tonypete, in the camps, the vaccine is completely optional, after all, we are not dictators!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 10:00 AM (2C38g)

75 The missus and I are both pretty sure we had it back in February. First me, then her. Sick for 3 to 4 days, and I mean, in bed, shivering, teeth chattering, body aches, high fever, you name.
We got over it on our own.
Turns out, as we treated ourselves, we did everything wrong.

Posted by: attila with coffee at November 21, 2020 10:00 AM (w7KSn)

76 https://bit.ly/3pOJofD
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WOW! Sidney Powell DROPS A BOMB -- Says "Multiple People" Were Watching the Fraud Happen in Real-Time

Posted by: ZZZZZZZZ at November 21, 2020 10:00 AM (5XwFj)

77 So glad to see that some preparedness and common sense prevailed, for you guys. Can Mrs.Bozo be specific about how many times she took the Querceptin? I can't tell if she meant q4-6hour on that or the ibuprofen...which I know is standard for fever. Zinc twice a day, I have the Vitamin D, pulse ox, too. An ER doc friend said a baby aspirin a day, can't hurt, as well. Saying prayers for all, and Vic.

Posted by: DefendUSA at November 21, 2020 10:01 AM (5ej0U)

78 Read this thread and you will want it even more.



https://tinyurl.com/y23yamhy

I wish I could say I was surprised, but I am not. I have believed from the beginning that this was a bioweapon, and I have yet to be conclusively proven that it was not. Personally, I think the bioweapon part is being downplayed because Democrats can use it to control people and further their own agenda.


China is at war with us. We have not yet openly acknowledged it, and if Pedo Joe is president, they will rule us.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:02 AM (ZCiJZ)

79 You should not take ibuprofen or acetaminophen when you have a respiratory infection: they metabolize down to acids which can be trapped in fluids which, themselves, are trapped in your lungs.

This is, after all, what pneumonia is: fluid trapped in the lungs.

All you're doing is potentially irritating your lungs more, causing them to swell more, and thus, keep fluids trapped.

This is EXACTLY why hydroxychloroquine is prescribed: it reduces swelling in lung tissue without breaking down into an acid, and helps to restore lung function much faster.

My wife -- who has muscular dystrophy -- caught a bad Coronavirus in January of 2019 (Yes, that's January of 2019: COVID-19 was possibly here already, they just didn't know. Read my blog to find out WHY).

Her doctors -- the Korean attending in the ER, and the Egyptian pulmonologist (two nations where Miss Rona are as common as dogcrap on the sidewalk) once they had a confirmation of Coronavirus, gave her azithromycin, remdesivir and HCQ (2400 mg delivered over about 10 days).

She was already using oxygen 24/7, and a bi-pap mask 8-10 hours a night. Her MD affects all the muscles in her torso, making it difficult for her to breathe. They upped the bi-pap usage to 16 hours a day, too.

And she recovered in about 3 weeks.

P.S., she hasn't had so much as a fucking sniffle in the last 21 months.

There is no mystery in HOW to treat a Coronavirus, and after all is said and done, COVID-19 IS ONLY A CORONAVIRUS (it causes a cold or flu).

We're either dealing with gross incompetence at all levels, malpractice on a massive scale, or a deliberate effort the ends of which are currently speculative but probably evil.

Posted by: Matt Noto at November 21, 2020 10:02 AM (/KeBX)

80 Shibumi and Bozo Conservative...glad to hear yall are doing ok and hope yall continue to improve. Thanks for all the info!

Posted by: Lurker Extraordinaire at November 21, 2020 10:03 AM (hvpEs)

81 Wasn't sterility a "minor" side-effect of some of the drug trials sponsored by Bill Gates in Africa and India?
Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 09:52 AM (2C38g)


This is a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Zombie Margaret Sanger and Zombie RBG at November 21, 2020 10:03 AM (PiwSw)

82 49 In the earlier thread, I read where Vic had fallen and broken his hip.
Please pray for Vic and healing, he really needs the support.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 09:47 AM (ZCiJZ)

Oh, no! I did not know.

Posted by: m at November 21, 2020 10:03 AM (7d/2N)

83 Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2020 09:59 AM (ZLI7S)

Joe and I tried to tell people, but we were already outnumbered...

Posted by: Zombie John Birch at November 21, 2020 10:03 AM (2C38g)

84 I'm overseas, I had a German kid get on an elevator with me. We both had our masks in our hands instead on. He looked at me, held up the mask, and asked "are you afraid "

Posted by: Jean at November 21, 2020 10:03 AM (JeEtL)

85 Glad to hear you two came out okay. Our household had it back in early March, and though my Calmer Half is, on paper, much higher risk (Certain Age, Cardiac patient, etc.), I was the one who got wiped out.

As for the vaccine, no way am I taking that thing. I wouldn't take the chickenpox vaccine; I already had chickpox. So why would I take a Kung Flu vaccine?

We'll see just how politically motivated it is by how much pressure there is to vaccinate without antibody tests. Just like "I already had the thing; I'm immune now - so why should I wear a bloody mask?"

Posted by: Not From Around Here at November 21, 2020 10:04 AM (wrzAm)

86 There is also the money making aspect of the $100 bucks I had to pay for a Rapid Covid test. Not covered by insurance.

Had to sit in a parking lot for two hours with an obvious common cold waiting for a test. Work would not let me back without one.


Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 21, 2020 10:04 AM (CFTBk)

87 I will pray for Vic

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 21, 2020 10:05 AM (nUhF0)

88 Posted by: DefendUSA

Here you go:


1 dose Bio quercetin (optimized, equivalent to 500mg) 2x a day for 7 days

1 dose Zinc 50 mg 2x a day for 7 days.

Ibprofen/ tylenol as needed every 4 to 6 hours for fever; alternate them so you do not go over the dosage for one of them.

I also took around 6,000 mg a day of D3 randomly, as well as a bunch of C.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:05 AM (ZCiJZ)

89 Remove spaces? How about no. Maybe use tiny url instead?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at November 21, 2020 10:05 AM (uxUoN)

90 Late last week, he complained of shortness of breath and had a fever. She took him to the ER and he was admitted. Five days later, he died. Covid. 58 years old, but had two comorbidities. Damn.
Posted by: fly

So very sorry. The co-morbidities are what kills you, literally.

I know that a lot of people think the whole Covid-19 thing is a fraud, but it is very real for the tiny per cent that have other health problems and get it.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:06 AM (ZCiJZ)

91 Wonderful story. I will share the info with family and friends. Thank you Shibumi.

Posted by: A lotta nerve at November 21, 2020 10:06 AM (JdcHc)

92 Maybe use tiny url instead?
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at November 21, 2020 10:05 AM (uxUoN)


tinyurl be yo fren!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 10:07 AM (2C38g)

93 Here, for your convenience:

https://myplanetmyrules.blogspot.com/2020/08/you-all-suck-40-cure-vs-therapy.html#more

Posted by: Matt Noto at November 21, 2020 10:07 AM (/KeBX)

94 "... hillbilly Ohio, oh, sorry, redneck Ohio ... '

Wherever you came from, feel free to go back.

Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at November 21, 2020 10:07 AM (o+znz)

95 HA! You will comply with whatever we decide peon.
-- Stalinist Govenators and State Health Directors everywhere
Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2020 09:58 AM (Rvt8


Fucking DeWine has gone full Ceausescu since the state senate passed a bill curbing his dictator powers, vowing to veto it if the House RINOs grow a spine. Remember what happened to the Danube of Thought and his whore wife, Mikey, although I don't have anything against your missus other than she enables your stupidity.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 21, 2020 10:07 AM (y7DUB)

96 Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 09:59 AM (ZCiJZ)


Thank you. He was a good guy. I had texted him earlier this week and he didn't respond, which was very unusual for him. Now I know why.

He being in wHitler's Michigan, the funeral will be limited to family members only, so I won't being making the trip. The memorial service will be live-streamed on the funeral home's website, however.

I'm with you on the comorbidity thing. Seems to be the determining factor in a lot of cases.

Posted by: fly at November 21, 2020 10:08 AM (Us3pf)

97 >>China is at war with us. We have not yet openly acknowledged it, and if Pedo Joe is president, they will rule us.

I agree with Bozo that while the virus might not have been intentionally released by China once it got out they decided to let it infect the world. It was a perfect weapon for China's supporters in the US and elsewhere to go full government suppression and allow for Democrats to push the idiotic mass mail in voting crap.

Trump's attempts to pushback on China doesn't just affect them. There are trillions at stake by parties such as Carlyle and other huge moneyed interests. Carlyle was also hip deep in Ukraine bs.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2020 10:08 AM (ZLI7S)

98 There is NO long term knowledge about what mRNA vaccines will do to you.

-

Yeah, it's funny how we hear all about the long term concerns of Covid-19s, but quick, take this vaccine.

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 21, 2020 10:08 AM (zBf3k)

99 We're either dealing with gross incompetence at all levels, malpractice on a massive scale, or a deliberate effort the ends of which are currently speculative but probably evil.
Posted by: Matt Noto


All good points, but was taking aspirin and ibuprofen (as doctor recommended) to control fever (anti-pyretic).

Yes, I agree that there has been GROSS incompetence and deliberate mis-information about Covid 19.

It is maddening.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:09 AM (ZCiJZ)

100 thanks for this post. very informative. we've done zinc, c's and d's......i'm pretty sure i had it back in march. came back from ca after caring for my mom who was in a facility and she did have it.....no symptoms for her but i was out of commission for 2 weeks....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at November 21, 2020 10:09 AM (CqHIp)

101 Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:06 AM (ZCiJZ)



Thanks. Yep. Scary stuff when you have the comorbidity thing going on.

Posted by: fly at November 21, 2020 10:11 AM (Us3pf)

102 "... hillbilly Ohio, oh, sorry, redneck Ohio ... '



Wherever you came from, feel free to go back.

I don't mean that in a bad way, I mean it in a good way, if that makes any sense. I have been here in redneck Ohio for 9 months and feel very much at home. The area we are in still has Trump signs and flags up, and it's very quiet here. Please don't make me go back to life in Herr Whitler's state.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:11 AM (ZCiJZ)

103 I know that a lot of people think the whole Covid-19 thing is a fraud, but it is very real for the tiny per cent that have other health problems and get it.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:06 AM (ZCiJZ)

That's just it. I don't think it's a fraud; it's clearly a real virus that affects some people more horribly than others.

The fraud is in how it's dealt with--quarantining healthy populations, tyrannical lockdowns, and all that comes with that. We could focus on treatment and reasonable prevention for at-risk populations. Instead, we get to destroy the economy and put the screws to everyone.

Posted by: April at November 21, 2020 10:12 AM (OX9vb)

104 I also took around 6,000 mg a day of D3 randomly, as well as a bunch of C.
Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:05 AM (ZCiJZ)


Very glad you are doing better. Nitpick. Did you mean 6,000 mg or 6,000 IU? I think you meant IU, which would be about 0.15 mg.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 21, 2020 10:12 AM (PiwSw)

105 The issue is that folks with serious comorbidities have been died from influenza like illnesses every year, and we don't panic.

This panic was manufactured

Posted by: Jean at November 21, 2020 10:13 AM (JeEtL)

106 Oh?

@jsolomonReports

In new twist, Georgia governor urges audit of ballot envelop signatures to look for fraud | Just The News

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2020 10:13 AM (ZLI7S)

107 Ty, shibumi and BC for sharing. Husband and I tested positive on Thursday. We had the full nose/brain test, which they did not want to give me, until I listed symptoms (headache,nausea, chills). Mr. R was also being treated for bronchitis and had xrays, etc on Monday, but he was exposed last Friday. He seems to be recovering well, except for being very tired, despite a list of co-morbidlies which should have made him a target for a more negative outcome. The worst for me are the muscle aches and headaches, but ice packs help. We are in FL and protocol here seems to be OTC, unless your oxygen level drops below 93, then they get active.

Posted by: EveR at November 21, 2020 10:13 AM (DsGxB)

108 19 I dropped in to drop this:

Newt Gingrich @newtgingrich

My friend Barry Casselman reports "Two key DFL MN state senators have switched
parties and will now caucus with the GOP,
giving conservatives a 34-29 margin. A big
story with national implications!" The blue wave is gradually being replaced by a red tide
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 21, 2020 09:23 AM (sfhL4)

____

While good news, I suppose, let's not confuse GOP with conservative, Newt.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 21, 2020 10:13 AM (22mNy)

109 https://thefederalist.com/state-legislatures must investigate fraud and choose electors accordingly

I have been saying the state legislatures should be the ones to get us out of this mess.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2020 10:14 AM (9sWOw)

110 The fraud is in how it's dealt with--quarantining healthy populations,
tyrannical lockdowns, and all that comes with that. We could focus on
treatment and reasonable prevention for at-risk populations. Instead,
we get to destroy the economy and put the screws to everyone.

It could be stopped, if not completely eliminated with something called Ivermectin. But the powers that be don't want it stopped. There is not enough money in social security to keep paying seniors, and the states don't have enough Medicaid cash in their coffers. Killing off older people with illnesses is a huge bonus for them.


Ask Andrew Cuomo. He's getting an award for killing people.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:14 AM (ZCiJZ)

111 My favorite hobby horse about Covid 19 is Ivermectin. This was originally developed as a modification of Streptomycin antibiotic (by the Japanese), to stop insect parasites in humans; also widely used in veterinarian medicine. Since the 1970's, it has shown to be an effective anti-viral agent also, in many cases. This is not something that somebody pulled "out of the blue".

This has been shown to be (when tried) very effective in stopping Covid 19 and acting as a prophylaxis.

It has been widely used in at least one major province in India to protect health care workers.

One dose a month. This drug is on the WHO essential medications list.

If we all took one dose a month for three months, the Covid 19 virus would be stomped out; in my humble opinion. But...that seems too easy.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:15 AM (ZCiJZ)

112 Id like to see more on the benefits of metaformin

Posted by: Jean at November 21, 2020 10:15 AM (JeEtL)

113 Agree that was a informative write up.

Sadly I have not done anything like their preventions.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2020 10:16 AM (9sWOw)

114
shibumi and BC, thank you for posting this!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2020 10:16 AM (pNxlR)

115 I know that a lot of people think the whole Covid-19 thing is a fraud, but it is very real for the tiny per cent that have other health problems and get it.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:06 AM (ZCiJZ)

That's just it. I don't think it's a fraud; it's clearly a real virus that affects some people more horribly than others.

The fraud is in how it's dealt with--quarantining healthy populations, tyrannical lockdowns, and all that comes with that. We could focus on treatment and reasonable prevention for at-risk populations. Instead, we get to destroy the economy and put the screws to everyone.
Posted by: April at November 21, 2020 10:12 AM (OX9vb)


This 100%. Plus some people lose the genetic lottery when it comes to being susceptible to it. Life's not fair and in that case there's little one can do. But screwing everyone isn't the right response, DeWine!

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 21, 2020 10:16 AM (y7DUB)

116
I had it last February. Picked it up from the Planet Fitness as there was NOBODY else in contact with me during that period leading up to symptoms.

It was like normal flu, except the first day I did have some body chills.

Sleep, drink, eat and do nothing but these and my body healed up.

I'm a divorced 56 year old man.

It didn't hurt to be jogging on the treadmill the couple of months leading up to it three/four times a week at speed 6.5 on 2% incline for 30 minutes non-stop by that time.

Posted by: Sapwolf at November 21, 2020 10:16 AM (u8u1w)

117 We are in FL and protocol here seems to be OTC, unless your oxygen level drops below 93, then they get active.
Posted by: EveR

Yeah, mine was in the low 80% range. I felt like crap.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:17 AM (ZCiJZ)

118 Did you mean 6,000 mg or 6,000 IU? I think you meant IU, which would be about 0.15 m


[walks to kitchen, looks at husbands massive bottle of D3.]

You are indeed correct. 6,000 to 8000 IU. They're 2000 IU softgels.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:17 AM (ZCiJZ)

119 Southern Ohio is more hillbilly I would say, which reminds me that Hillbilly Elegy starts on Netflix next week.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 21, 2020 10:17 AM (E4Ltn)

120 Glad to hear Shibumi and Bozo are doing better and have recovered.
F China!
Look at the damage they've done to this country.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 21, 2020 10:18 AM (NpAcC)

121 Wasn't sterility a "minor" side-effect of some of the drug trials sponsored by Bill Gates in Africa and India?
Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules!

This is double hearsay but . . .

A friend of mine whose father taught at a Mumbai university back in the '60s told him that the government provided free vaccinations and, in addition, you got a free transistor radio if you got one. In fact, they were sterilizing them. He said the lines were long. But they got a free radio.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 21, 2020 10:19 AM (+y/Ru)

122 The issue is that folks with serious comorbidities have been died from influenza like illnesses every year, and we don't panic.

This panic was manufactured
Posted by: Jean


Yes it was. Misinformation, and the other "control" agenda, trashing the Trump economic recovery.
Fear has been used throughout to terrorize people, instead of solid information and good medicine.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:19 AM (ZCiJZ)

123 Bozo, if you had been n FL w that oxygen level, you would definitely have been focus of attention. That seems to be big bellwether here.

Posted by: EveR at November 21, 2020 10:19 AM (DsGxB)

124 105The issue is that folks with serious comorbidities have been died from influenza like illnesses every year, and we don't panic.

This panic was manufactured

Posted by: Jean at November 21, 2020 10:13 AM (JeEtL)


Even worse (not to diminish what happens to those who are elderly or have comorbidities) many young and completely healthy people die of the Flu.

Everyone tried to compare this to the Spanish flu at first, but ignored how what made that flu so devastating was how it killed young and healthy people. With Covid19 we basically knew that you could combat 90%+ of the deaths by protecting the vulnerable, meanwhile with the yearly flu everyone is vulnerable, which now allows the government to repeat thier process if tyranny whenever the want.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 21, 2020 10:19 AM (XwTyM)

125 Just for information Pennsylvania is putting up over 100+ deaths daily, Wisconsin has been doing slightly under that. NY and NJ have gone up daily around the 30s.

Ok, break over so back to the leaves.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2020 10:19 AM (9sWOw)

126 Ivermectin? Really? Huh. I know this product as a horse wormer only, just from being a purveyor of farm and ranch products.

What's the dosage for humans? Do you use that stuff in the tube, or is there a pill form for humans or something? I need to look into this. Ivermectin is so readily available.

Posted by: April at November 21, 2020 10:20 AM (OX9vb)

127
@jsolomonReports

In new twist, Georgia governor urges audit of ballot envelop signatures to look for fraud | Just The News


Change of heart, nuts in a wringer, or confidence post-shredding party?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 21, 2020 10:20 AM (oVJmc)

128 From the study I read, Dexa works best for those on vents. It's somewhat helpful for those on supplimental O2 and no effect otherwise. Dr John Campbell did a video about the study.

Glad you both recovered. I take powdered quercetin everyday along with zinc and D3. I'd recommend folks get an oximeter. They are pretty cheap. I've had mine for years.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 21, 2020 10:20 AM (YynYJ)

129 The fraud is in how it's dealt with--quarantining healthy populations, tyrannical lockdowns, and all that comes with that. We could focus on treatment and reasonable prevention for at-risk populations. Instead, we get to destroy the economy and put the screws to everyone.
Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:14 AM (ZCiJZ)


Because everyone's going to be exposed to it, or enough that there's no way to guarantee that you won't, short of complete isolation. Treating it like the flu - a course of treatment that will help get over it at home, and warning signs that indicate that you need to get to a hospital - is how this is supposed to work in a rational world.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 21, 2020 10:20 AM (t+qrx)

130 I have a brother in law who tested positive for Covid nine days ago. He is in his early 70s, has had had two heart attacks over the last few years and has a defibrillator/pacemaker installed. His temp never got over 100 and he was just fatigued for a few days. His wife now has it. Hope she fairs as well

Posted by: Javems at November 21, 2020 10:21 AM (FjSXz)

131 Also... for the record, I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice. I have an interest in natural medicine, and wanted to share what I took. Please do your own research. I simply wanted to make people aware that there are things out there that could help keep you out of the hospital, as long as you are not taking other medications and don't have certain conditions.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:21 AM (ZCiJZ)

132 Thank you so much for sharing, shibumi and bozo!

Question re: Quercetin. Is this something to keep on hand if you get sick, or something to add as a daily supplement?

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at November 21, 2020 10:22 AM (KuT6N)

133 I am glad to here that our patients Zero, Shibumi and Bozo Conservative, Plague Husband, weather the China Lung AIDS.


After nine months, we finally know some people who have gotten it, and I fear that one may be on the BCPH path.


I don't know if I had it last year, early this year, mainly because the window for infection seems to be about 2-4 weeks prior to it being identified here in January, and there was no testing, at the time. I am a healthy 29 year old with no-comorbidities, but it seemed like a forever flu that left me with prolonged fatigue, lethargy, and respiratory distress and weakness into 2020.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2020 10:22 AM (KnJdm)

134 >>Change of heart, nuts in a wringer, or confidence post-shredding party?

That's a very good question. I don't think it was a coincidence that Trump tweeted out an hour or so ago to "stay tuned" for evidence of fraud in Georgia.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2020 10:22 AM (ZLI7S)

135 shibumi and BC, thank you for posting this!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)


Thank Misanthropic Humanitarian. Shibumi contacts him all the time for stuff for the Pet Thread, and he was eager to put this up when we (Shibumi) said we would write it.

We wanted to tell people what happened to us, because we thought it might help someone else here at AoS.

There are a great bunch of people here, and we have to have each other's backs.

Like Sharkman, what a great and generous guy, a guy we may never ever meet. Typical AoS hero.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:22 AM (ZCiJZ)

136 I'd recommend folks get an oximeter. They are pretty cheap. I've had mine for years.


I just got one for $17 at Amazon. It's the blue one. That has helped us considerably in our post COVID time to measure how Bozo Conservatives oxygen levels are doing.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:23 AM (ZCiJZ)

137 Once Bozo's up to full strength perhaps a little super spreading is in order, IYKWIM.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 21, 2020 10:23 AM (nakwk)

138 "not enough money in social security to keep paying
seniors, and the states don't have enough Medicaid cash in their
coffers. Killing off older people with illnesses is a huge bonus for
them. Ask Andrew Cuomo. He's getting an award for killing people." Posted by: Shibumi

There is huge money made in caring for those old people, so those industries might not want them all dead. But plenty of Dems talk of how euthanizing those over 75 might be reasonable ... especially those in flyover country that are just "racist deplorables". (and yet their key Dem power brokers are in their late 70s or 80s.)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 21, 2020 10:23 AM (Cus5s)

139 NY Times Comes Out To Defend Black Man Who Raped, Murdered And Buried A Girl Alive

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Let he who is wirhout sin . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 21, 2020 10:24 AM (+y/Ru)

140 and the other was her son who was 42--a big guy who was overweight who had diabetes. Really tragic.
It was either Alex Berenson or ethical skeptic who established that diabetes is an extremely aggravating condition for SARS-COV2 afflicted.

Posted by: kallisto at November 21, 2020 10:24 AM (DJFLF)

141 117
We are in FL and protocol here seems to be OTC, unless your oxygen level drops below 93, then they get active.

Posted by: EveR



Yeah, mine was in the low 80% range. I felt like crap.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:17 AM (ZCiJZ)

I am trying to divine "normal" oxygen levels for healthy people. Can you put us some knowledge, if it has not already been discussed in thread?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2020 10:25 AM (KnJdm)

142 What's the dosage for humans? Do you use that stuff in the tube, or is there a pill form for humans or something? I need to look into this. Ivermectin is so readily available.
Posted by: April

Yes, it is widely used as a horse wormer. My elder sister and her husband use it on their horses.
But is was originally developed for humans.

It is not recommended to use the veterinary grade for people, but if I was sick, I probably would.

There are very strict recommendations on drug amounts to body mass. Too much Ivermectin may be toxic. I think there has been some stuff published about that in the Internet.

It has been known to have strong anti-viral properties for decades. There was some talk about a good clinical study starting up in the US soon.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:25 AM (ZCiJZ)

143 Is there a good way to evaluate mail-order medical equipment like pulse oximeters and sphygmomanometers and so on? I wouldn't know the first thing about whether one's accurate, or what precision is acceptable.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 21, 2020 10:26 AM (t+qrx)

144 In comparison to the flu version I had in 2004, when I thought I would die, so far, this has been very manageable.

Posted by: EveR at November 21, 2020 10:26 AM (DsGxB)

145 140
and the other was her son who was 42--a big guy who was overweight who had diabetes. Really tragic.
It
was either Alex Berenson or ethical skeptic who established that
diabetes is an extremely aggravating condition for SARS-COV2 afflicted.


Posted by: kallisto at November 21, 2020 10:24 AM (DJFLF)

That is disconcerting, as my Dad has D2.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2020 10:26 AM (KnJdm)

146 This got a smile as I'm right now in the Pharmacy at Licking Memorial Hospital. I may have made your Remdesivir.

Posted by: Clayton Barnett at November 21, 2020 10:27 AM (zdD7e)

147 143
Is there a good way to evaluate mail-order medical equipment like pulse
oximeters and sphygmomanometers and so on? I wouldn't know the first
thing about whether one's accurate, or what precision is acceptable.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 21, 2020 10:26 AM (t+qrx)

Be prepared to wade through oceans of China crap, and I cannot offer any other advice, from when we bought our pulse
oximeter and sphygmomanometer. It's a combined, automated unit, but I suppose I should probably get a stethescope and sphygmomanometer as backup and learn how to use them.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2020 10:28 AM (KnJdm)

148 95% is considered normal O2 levels. Make sure your finger is all the way in the device to get a good reading.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 21, 2020 10:28 AM (YynYJ)

149 I listened to that Sidney Powel and Larry O'Connor interview, it was good. She said in the end, that basically she wouldn't be going on the Tucker show anymore or providing him with any more information.

https://tinyurl.com/y4rx8ywg

Posted by: spypeach at November 21, 2020 10:28 AM (Up/Jb)

150 Joking aside, thank you ShiBozo for telling your story and puttin' us some fucking knowledge.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 21, 2020 10:28 AM (nakwk)

151 Thanks for your stories, mine was similar.

I was at an event in February where there were bunches of lavender which normally would have overpowered my sense of smell. It was as if the flowers were plastic. Even sticking my nose into the bunch I could smell nothing. Weird enough for me to remember. Later that night, I got chills. Spent one day puking then two or three days sniffling and feeling like crap. My chest was also really tight and I contiued hacking for a couple weeks after.

Never got tested but I had been around a group of people who had just returned from China recently just prior to getting sick. I am just guessing that it was the Ronas but I don't go the damn doctor unless I am dying anyway.

So yeah a bad flu bug.



Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 21, 2020 10:29 AM (3P/5p)

152 NY Times Comes Out To Defend Black Man Who Raped, Murdered And Buried A Girl Alive

-
Let he who is wirhout sin . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

She was a black girl ...

Posted by: Jean at November 21, 2020 10:29 AM (JeEtL)

153 Question re: Quercetin. Is this something to keep on hand if you get sick, or something to add as a daily supplement?

I don't take it daily, but I have some on hand in case either one of us picks up some sort of strange virus. That being said, here's some info on it: https://tinyurl.com/y6ql99hw


Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:29 AM (ZCiJZ)

154 I've been told by a nurse in a cancer hospital that she sees people still functioning with 02 of 88 to 88 percent. I think a healthy person would be in the mid 90s or above.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 21, 2020 10:30 AM (ftFVW)

155 Sadly I have not done anything like their preventions.

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2020 10:16 AM (9sWOw)

Do you work outdoors? At minimum, soak up as many D3 manufacturing rays as you can

Posted by: kallisto at November 21, 2020 10:30 AM (DJFLF)

156 I have some Ivermectin and HCQ. I am not sure which one to use first, or the order. More importantly, I have previously seen a lot of recommendations of what drugs to combine (Azith, zinc, etc.).

What I don't know is, what combination for which drug? And more importantly, the dosage and length of time for each.

Since I have not read the thread yet, if this has already been answered above, can you give me the post number or numbers? TIA.

Posted by: SacredCow at November 21, 2020 10:31 AM (D4VQX)

157 I am trying to divine "normal" oxygen levels for healthy people. Can you put us some knowledge, if it has not already been discussed in thread?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner


I would say it would probably be in the mid-90% level, at least.

If you are super-healthy and an athlete, it might be higher.

I just took mine, and it is at 95-96% level now (and I'm still not quite 100%).
Last week before oxygen and the hospital, it was 82-84%, and I felt like crap. I kept thinking I would turn the corner, and it wasn't happening.
I have never been so sick so long in my life, and felt like crap. I usually shake these things off fast.

Can't wait to get my medical bills. I have good insurance coverage, but this was probably $45-50K for the days in hospital, etc. and I will have a lot of deductible to pay. The $3K minimum, plus some other things that I will probably have to pay.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:31 AM (ZCiJZ)

158 My oximeter was tested by my pulmonologist. They used it on my stress test, instead of theirs.

Last stress test I took, I was at 88%. They put me on O2 just to walk around for six minutes. I thought it was funny as I'd had to hike across OHSU to get to the office. When your O2 level gets in the low 70s, it's difficult to function.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 21, 2020 10:31 AM (YynYJ)

159 88 to 89 percent I meant in my last post.

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at November 21, 2020 10:31 AM (ftFVW)

160 Can't wait to get my medical bills. I have good insurance coverage, but
this was probably $45-50K for the days in hospital, etc. and I will
have a lot of deductible to pay. The $3K minimum, plus some other
things that I will probably have to pay.



You should forward them to the Chinese Embassy.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 21, 2020 10:32 AM (3P/5p)

161 I don't take it daily, but I have some on hand in case either one of us picks up some sort of strange virus. That being said, here's some info on it: https://tinyurl.com/y6ql99hw


Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:29 AM (ZCiJZ)


Thank you!

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at November 21, 2020 10:32 AM (KuT6N)

162 A lot of these cures and remedies (Ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, azithromycin) for covid have patents that have expired so they are cheap. You can't make billions off of them like you can with a new drug or vaccine under patent.
It would be interesting to examine which pharmaceutical companies stocks, bonds etc., politicians with extreme lockdown measures are holding. Just saying.


Posted by: The Walking Dude at November 21, 2020 10:33 AM (cCxiu)

163 shibumi, we met at a MiMoMe a few years back. Say hello to Bozo for me.

I went through this last Feb/Mar and went to the doctor and they found my O2 level was 89 and that was a good reason why I wasn't making much sense writing on the ONT. It was a long pull back, in bed for 5 weeks. Dog thought it was great because she could lounge around all day in the sack.

One aftereffect that took a long time to get rid of was the hives. It was June before they finally stopped plaguing me.

On the bright side, they know a lot more about this now than they did then and more testing is available.

Good luck to you all.

Jinx

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 21, 2020 10:33 AM (33FvV)

164 Insty did a thing a few years ago about taking Quercetin as a supplement. That's where I heard the 'getting rid of gray hair' claim.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 21, 2020 10:34 AM (oVJmc)

165 Shibumi and Bozo Conservative: Maybe send a thank-you card to staff at the hospital? I'll bet they'd appreciate it!

Posted by: m at November 21, 2020 10:34 AM (7d/2N)

166 If half of this BS about this election is true, why would you think we can vote our way out this in 2-4 years?
---
Because otherwise they would have to admit they are a coward.

Easier to say, "I'm not going to fight now (or ever) because we can still vote"

Even though they know the vote is a lie. Everyone knows the vote is a lie.

Better to live on your knees.

My favorite class of coward is the "I've got too much to lose, a house, a wife, a family."

Right. Because every war, especially the war for independence, was fought by single, poor orphaned men.

Measure yourself against those who pledged their lives, their fortune and their sacred honor.

You, you have too much to lose?!

Gifted a life of leisure and comfort by their pledge, you started out deeply in debt.

And now the bill comes due ...

You can choose to pay in full and pass on a chance for freedom.

Or die pathetically in the paupers prison of communism they are building.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 21, 2020 10:34 AM (Vh3ZW)

167 Regarding hillbilly Ohio, it's nice to live in a place where people wave at you when you pass them in the car or as you drive by them in their yard

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 21, 2020 10:34 AM (zBf3k)

168 Southern Ohio is more hillbilly I would say, which reminds me that Hillbilly Elegy starts on Netflix next week.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

I have family, by marriage, in Logan and in Meigs County.

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2020 10:34 AM (Rvt88)

169 This got a smile as I'm right now in the Pharmacy at Licking Memorial Hospital. I may have made your Remdesivir.

Posted by: Clayton Barnett


Wow. Just wow. Thank you so much for the work you're doing, and please, please, thank everyone you work with at Licking Memorial for their professionalism and patience. The difference between your hospital and Mt. Carmel was night and day, and will continue to go to Licking Memorial.


We don't talk about it, but if we had waited longer and if Bozo Conservative had gone back to Mt. Carmel and had not been admitted, he could have died. He was that sick. That is one of the reasons that I wanted to share this information with everyone; it was less about 'here's Shibumi's COVID treatment' and more about 'this is what you need to do if you're in bad shape.' I don't want anyone dying because they went to a hospital that decided that their loved one wasn't sick enough to admit.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:34 AM (ZCiJZ)

170 On the bright side, they know a lot more about this now than they did then and more testing is available.

Good luck to you all.

Jinx
Posted by: Jinx the Cat


Thanks! I remember meeting you in Michigan, and hope you are well now.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:35 AM (ZCiJZ)

171 I just took mine, and it is at 95-96% level now (and I'm still not quite 100%). Last week before oxygen and the hospital, it was 82-84%, and I felt like crap. I kept thinking I would turn the corner, and it wasn't happening.

I have never been so sick so long in my life, and felt like crap. I usually shake these things off fast.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 10:31 AM (ZCiJZ)


Minus the O2 information, this is my story from late last year to mid-January. The only thing weighing against me having it is lack of a positive test, which wasn't available anyway at the time.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2020 10:35 AM (KnJdm)

172 The question I wanna ask Peking Joe--

"Which of your grandchildren won't be attending your inauguration?"

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at November 21, 2020 10:36 AM (OafoN)

173 This was always a scam and op.

The virus is very real, the reaction to it, very much not.

I'm pushing 60, have worked in all of the hot zones and know zero people who've contracted it.


I did catch something in December of 2019 that knocked me on my ass.


COVID?

Who knows, I got better.


And here we are, nearly a year later still dealing with his nightmare.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 21, 2020 10:37 AM (qEjZn)

174
Regarding hillbilly Ohio, it's nice to live in a place where people wave at you when you pass them in the car or as you drive by them in their yard.

Posted by: Undercover Brother


When the first Mrs. Krebs and I -- both of us northerners -- lived and worked in central SC back in the 80s, people in cars or on foot were always waving at us when we were outside.

"Who was that?"

"I don't know -- I thought you knew them."

It was nice.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 21, 2020 10:37 AM (pNxlR)

175 or as you drive by them in their yard
Posted by: Undercover Brother

I did that and all they did was yell at me

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 21, 2020 10:37 AM (33FvV)

176 I'm going to have to start radiation treatments for eight weeks due to residual cancer after a prostatectomy. Will really have to be careful because I can't afford to miss any.

Posted by: kennyraisin at November 21, 2020 10:38 AM (R8qIC)

177 146 This got a smile as I'm right now in the Pharmacy at Licking Memorial Hospital. I may have made your Remdesivir.
Posted by: Clayton Barnett at November 21, 2020 10:27 AM (zdD7e)

Cool!

Posted by: m at November 21, 2020 10:38 AM (7d/2N)

178 Whoa kennyraisin.

Good luck with all of that.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2020 10:39 AM (Rvt88)

179 At minimum, soak up as many D3 manufacturing rays as you can
Posted by: kallisto at November 21, 2020 10:30 AM (DJFLF)


Unless you are prone to skin cancer...

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 10:40 AM (2C38g)

180 The wolves that are howling with glee over what they think is a Biden victory will never come for you.

Wolves don't hunt like that.

They'll pick you off when you're alone, weak, vulnerable.

There's only one way to rid the land of wolves.

They have to be hunted ....

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 21, 2020 10:40 AM (Vh3ZW)

181 The oximeter I use is Santa Medical SM110.

When I first came down with my lungs issues, before I could check my O2 levels, I could barely make it from the living room back to the bedroom. I thought I might pass out. That might be helpful if you don't have a way to check. With low O2 levels, you have to stop and sit down, to give them a chance to come back up.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 21, 2020 10:41 AM (YynYJ)

182 I am trying to divine "normal" oxygen levels for healthy people. Can you
put us some knowledge, if it has not already been discussed in thread?


They like 97+

As a theoretically healthy person, I get that most of the time, although I might dip to 96 once and a while.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:41 AM (ZCiJZ)

183 What about Pepsid AC? I heard that helps...

Posted by: Max Power at November 21, 2020 10:41 AM (QCc6B)

184 @The Walking Dude:

American hospitals are positively LOUSY with hydroxychloroquine and have stockpiled it for years.

It is given to people with lupus, arthritis, MS, and a host of other maladies all the time, and large supplies are kept on hand to combat potential outbreaks of Zika virus, Yellow Fever, and West Nile virus.

It wasn't all that long ago that the AMA and other medical bodies were lobbying Congress to make HCQ available OVER THE COUNTER...even as they were telling us HCQ was a deadly poison, vis-a-vis COVID-19.

Money doesn't enter into this. It's a useful and effective drug. We export it, for Chrissakes! They make it by the shipload right next door in New Jersey. They have for 9 decades. If it was all about money and there's no profit in it, why turn it out in massive numbers for 90 years?

The issue is political -- the wrong guy (Trump) recommended it (and a doctor told him about it) and the bureaucratic "experts" in government, who fucked up COVID response to begin with -- don't like to be proven wrong.

I've seen HCQ fix a coronavirus patient. It works.

Same for azithromycin: it's the go-to anti-biotic for stubborn infections.

Posted by: Matt Noto at November 21, 2020 10:42 AM (/KeBX)

185 Unless you are prone to skin cancer...
Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 10:40 AM (2C38g)


I haven't had skin cancer, but the sun and I are NOT friends. Stupid Irish genes. I've never had a tan in my life. Just sunburns and peeling.

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at November 21, 2020 10:42 AM (KuT6N)

186 I am so glad you guys are better and got through it and thank you for sharing the story.

Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect at November 21, 2020 10:44 AM (Nyumu)

187 Wolves don't hunt like that.

They'll pick you off when you're alone, weak, vulnerable.

There's only one way to rid the land of wolves.

They have to be hunted ....
Posted by: RoyalOil

That sure was the way they hunted as the sun set at the MAGA March last week.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 21, 2020 10:44 AM (33FvV)

188 176 I'm going to have to start radiation treatments for eight weeks due to residual cancer after a prostatectomy. Will really have to be careful because I can't afford to miss any.
Posted by: kennyraisin at November 21, 2020 10:38 AM (R8qIC)

Best wishes to you Kenny.

Didn't have the prostatectomy, but I did have 9 weeks of radiation and hormone treatments.

It's a slog, but doable...

Posted by: browndog at November 21, 2020 10:45 AM (BgMrQ)

189 Cannibal Bob and I had a Covid party with the neighbor last night. Her dance partner as the Covid so she got tested yesterday. If positive, we'll probably have another party to celebrate. Bob is ordering up some HCQ now.

Posted by: Heidi at November 21, 2020 10:46 AM (7Y5nA)

190 I've seen HCQ fix a coronavirus patient. It works.

When B.C. was in the emergency room at hospital #1, I asked them about HCQ. The two nurses definitively said "Oh, that doesn't work. We only use Remdisivir."

Interesting that they did not mention antibody plasma.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:47 AM (ZCiJZ)

191 They were studying why homeless people weren't getting sick and learned most of them were taking Pepcid. Not sure exactly how it works.

Most of these drugs like HCQ or quercetin work by allowing the zinc to penetrate the virus cell and kill it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 21, 2020 10:47 AM (YynYJ)

192 Southern Ohio is more hillbilly I would say, which reminds me that Hillbilly Elegy starts on Netflix next week.

--

I'm from the SW Ohio area, Hamilton and Warren counties. I'd say there's some truth to this, but more so the Warren County area. Hamilton Co. is and was what I'd call textbook blue collar, not necessarily "hillbilly."

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2020 10:47 AM (O+I8R)

193 Justthenews:

After certifying his state's election results, Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp is now urging his state to conduct an audit comparing the signatures of voter applications and mail-in ballot envelops to those on the approved voter file to determine if fraud occurred.

https://tinyurl.com/y2n63zlf

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2020 10:47 AM (cF8AT)

194 Bob is ordering up some HCQ now.

From where?

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:48 AM (ZCiJZ)

195 Jordan, a long time ago before I turned 29, my dermatologist said "Son, you're a Scot, right?"
When I answered in the affirmative, he said "My boy, you were supposed to stay up in the mountains in the fog, and never come down to where the sunlight is!"

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 10:48 AM (2C38g)

196 Along the lines of ivermectin is other pymethrins. Found in chrysanthemums greens. Quercetin is natural in kale, broccoli, nuts, and red wine.

Posted by: Euro at November 21, 2020 10:49 AM (E2OVr)

197 Pulse oximeters bounce a frickin' laser beam off the skin and infer blood O2 from the bounced light. If you have one, test it on yourself when you are in the pink to establish a baseline.

Posted by: klaftern at November 21, 2020 10:50 AM (RuIsu)

198 After certifying his state's election results, Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp is now urging his state to conduct an audit comparing the signatures of voter applications and mail-in ballot envelops to those on the approved voter file to determine if fraud occurred.

https://tinyurl.com/y2n63zlf
Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2020 10:47 AM (cF8AT)

Wow, that's convenient. He must be pretty sure of himself, since he's doing it after the certification. I hope they have proof that this guy is crooked.

Posted by: spypeach at November 21, 2020 10:50 AM (Up/Jb)

199 Tami @ 193, I just can't believe that. Why is it dawning on this buffoon now and not earlier? It's interesting, I'll say that.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2020 10:50 AM (O+I8R)

200 Thankful y'all recovered and wrote this excellent explainer.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, you can't do that here at November 21, 2020 10:50 AM (a4Fj4)

201 "After certifying his state's election results, Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp is now urging his state to conduct an audit comparing the signatures of voter applications and mail-in ballot envelops to those on the approved voter file to determine if fraud occurred."

Weren't those events supposed to happen in the opposite sequence?

Posted by: attila with coffee at November 21, 2020 10:50 AM (w7KSn)

202 Weren't those events supposed to happen in the opposite sequence?
Posted by: attila with coffee at November 21, 2020 10:50 AM (w7KSn)

Right, a little odd, almost like he knows what the outcome will be.

Posted by: spypeach at November 21, 2020 10:52 AM (Up/Jb)

203 Weren't those events supposed to happen in the opposite sequence?
Posted by: attila with coffee at November 21, 2020 10:50 AM (w7KSn)


Playing for both sides is not always a safe strategy!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 10:52 AM (2C38g)

204 The leftists would love to have a vaccine that made people sterile because they want depopulation. So if you believe this virus was released purposefully, it is worth considering if the vaccine was the goal all along.

Posted by: Just saying at November 21, 2020 10:52 AM (r+sAi)

205 From where?
Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:48 AM (ZCiJZ)

It's via online at www.amercasfrontlinedoctors.com and you do a teledoc appointment. It's his anniversary gift to me (28 years today!).

Posted by: Heidi at November 21, 2020 10:53 AM (7Y5nA)

206 After certifying his state's election results, Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp is now urging his state to conduct an audit comparing the signatures of voter applications and mail-in ballot envelops to those on the approved voter file to determine if fraud occurred."

Weren't those events supposed to happen in the opposite sequence?
Posted by: attila with coffee at November 21, 2

...

No no. The threatening and wailing stage of GOP political theater is always in Act 4.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 21, 2020 10:53 AM (2HIdp)

207 It's via online at www.amercasfrontlinedoctors.com and you do a teledoc
appointment. It's his anniversary gift to me (28 years today!).

Thank you so much! This is another great resource as well.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 10:54 AM (ZCiJZ)

208 It makes my blood boil that the media pretends that PDT didn't do anything to stop Covid and that he in fact called it a "hoax."
If we ever get a true accounting of the history of this virus, President Trump's efforts--and the efforts of all those he appointed and gathered--would be viewed as nothing short of heroic.

This is a terrible virus for some--and the focus should be on those with comorbidities. With the right care, MOST will survive.
I know a 75 year old woman with diabetes and a 66 year old man with COPD who both made (relatively) quick and full recoveries--and this was in May, in New Jersey.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 21, 2020 10:54 AM (HrMC1)

209 Somebody or something spooked Kemp. Maybe it's another bid for authenticity from Team D. Properly controlled, the signature match can put this to bed. On the other hand, Team Trump might have shown Kemp the goods they have on him, and encouraged him to find a way out. Highly entertaining, either way.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 21, 2020 10:54 AM (evxBY)

210 Happy Anniversary Heidi and Cannibal Bob!

You can get him one of those grow your own human steak kits.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 21, 2020 10:55 AM (2HIdp)

211 That url might be misspelled?
Needs an "i"?

Posted by: MarkY at November 21, 2020 10:55 AM (i022r)

212 One thing I have learned about all of this is the importance of physical symbols to totalitarians.

These are people that simply can't be satisfied unless they are inflicting their control on other people.

It's not that they believe that masks and their draconian rules are magic or that they even work. The point is to see how far they can push you - what freedoms will you trade for even the hope of protection from BIG SCARY EVIL through controlling your speech and your appearance by demanding faithfully wearing a magical talisman or dutiful compliance with their superstitious practices involving controlling movement with arrows, circles and 6 foot lines on the floor.


The whole terrified country was/is trying to stay "on base" and avoid stepping on mother's back-breaking cracks.


They created a Covid cult based on fear of their evil Virus God and then made adherence to their beliefs the state religion. Like Scientology on steroids.


Which is why the Trump team's insistence on compliance with mask-superstition and social-distance magic not only pisses me off , but is frankly exacerbating the damage to the American people.



Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 21, 2020 10:55 AM (3P/5p)

213 Maybe Kemp saw this late last night:

@SidneyPowell1

#Georgia is squarely in our crosshairs for massive election fraud & corruption.
Take note @GovKemp

@GaSecofState
https://thenation.com/article/politics/georgia-recount/tnamp/
We know the truth
@realDonaldTrump
@LLinWood
@GenFlynn
@RepDougCollins
@CollinsforGA
#WeThePeople are taking back our country

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2020 10:55 AM (cF8AT)

214 BigTech was censoring any HCQ news as much as they censor "Trump Won" stuff now. It is quite remarkable. And the "censorship" is in the form of constant Narrative Building by the MSM, which smothers any counter evidence.


President Elect Amazing Polly links to this science guy directly in the needed field, YouTube censored him immediately. He says probably 60% have natural immunity ... from previous covids like SARS.


He mentions that claims that anitbody tests show fewer people have them now, does not means resistance declines with time, it means (he says) that the disease is in decline. I think he said T-cells are where the resistance is maintained, not in the antibodies. (makes sense, except I don't really know what a t-cell does unless I become an instant expert via internet search)


he has other interesting commentary ...
https://tinyurl.com/y46jpdz3

Posted by: illiniwek at November 21, 2020 10:55 AM (Cus5s)

215 No no. The threatening and wailing stage of GOP political theater is always in Act 4.

--

Complete with the "official survey" for you to fill out because our opinion is important! Oh, and can you donate so we can fight for you?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2020 10:55 AM (O+I8R)

216 Jordan, a long time ago before I turned 29, my dermatologist said "Son, you're a Scot, right?"
When I answered in the affirmative, he said "My boy, you were supposed to stay up in the mountains in the fog, and never come down to where the sunlight is!"
Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 10:48 AM (2C38g)


Heh, that sounds about right!

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at November 21, 2020 10:55 AM (KuT6N)

217 >>Weren't those events supposed to happen in the opposite sequence?

All they have certified with the recount they did was that they counted the same number of ballots in the recount as in the original count. There was no check for ballot integrity.

Georgia rules allow the Trump campaign to ask for another recount within 2 business days of the certification since the vote was within 0.5%.

Trump has been insisting all along that any recount that doesn't verify the signatures of the mail in votes is worthless. Sounds like Kemp knows that too.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2020 10:55 AM (ZLI7S)

218
Wow, that's convenient. He must be pretty sure
of himself, since he's doing it after the certification. I hope they
have proof that this guy is crooked.

Posted by: spypeach at November 21, 2020 10:50 AM (Up/Jb)

Lin Wood had vids of them shredding a bunch of election materials yesterday maybe all the evidence has been destroyed.

Posted by: kallisto at November 21, 2020 10:55 AM (DJFLF)

219 Also, Trump 1 hour ago...

@realDonaldTrump

Big voter fraud information coming out concerning Georgia. Stay tuned!

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2020 10:56 AM (cF8AT)

220 "...it is worth considering if the vaccine was the goal all along."

If it is a secret, it is the worst kept secret ever. Over the years, Bill Gates has given multiple ted talks about this very topic, and he funds a lot of the research. Gates is a eugenicist, and so were his parents.

Posted by: attila with coffee at November 21, 2020 10:56 AM (w7KSn)

221 I'll never know but I think I had something like a 'rona episode back in February, felt like crap for several days, but recovered.

My current rule for understanding major events and state actions is to see if money (for the "right" people) is involved. If it is, than I feel sure we are being played.

Gotta go walk the pup, what a great thread!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 10:56 AM (2C38g)

222 It's his anniversary gift to me (28 years today!).
Posted by: Heidi at November 21, 2020 10:53 AM (7Y5nA)


Happy anniversary!!

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at November 21, 2020 10:57 AM (KuT6N)

223 Using voice transcription, sorry if there's misunderstandings. Another thing that's frustrating about this whole Coronavirus situation is that we've had enough time and enough data that we could have some official guidance regarding zinc or other supplements. It's been a year. Shouldn't we be able to tell people something by now? If not, why not? Why does it feel so political? That's a rhetorical question by the way.

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 21, 2020 10:57 AM (zBf3k)

224 "The two nurses definitively said "Oh, that doesn't work. We only use Remdisivir."

Because nurses are experts in the field of virology?

They may "only use remdesivir" because that is a hospital policy -- giving HCQ to a patient with diabetes or a congenital heart problem (which may go undetected, because either the patient is unaware of it or because no one bothered to test for it) can be fatal.

By "B.C." I'm going to assume you mean "British Columbia", home of the 10-month wait for the maternity ward?

Here in the US, until March of this year, hospitals could not test in-house for corona: they had to send a sample to CDC in Atlanta to confirm. Which means we were FedEx'ing Corona all over the country. Which also means many Corona patients were being misdiagnosed as "influenza" cases, and treated accordingly.

Last year's "record flu epidemic", according to doctors I'm talking to, now turns out to have been a flu epidemic that ran concurrently or was preceded by a corona outbreak.

Coronaviruses are VERY common and our response to them has been haphazard and disjointed, mostly hampered by gov't action here in the US (like the doctor in Seattle they prosecuted for "illegally" modifying a flu test to find Coronasviruses).

Posted by: Matt Noto at November 21, 2020 10:57 AM (/KeBX)

225 Meh, Im Generation X. When it is time for me to die, Im going. No fanfare, no O2 sensors, no drug cocktails, no blogging, just heading home to Valhalla to feast, drink, fight, boast, and screw

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 21, 2020 10:57 AM (qnPkZ)

226 You can get him one of those grow your own human steak kits.
Posted by: TexasDan

Thanks TexasDan! That's a great idea. The hobo of the month club gift card just isn't that exciting anymore.

Posted by: Heidi at November 21, 2020 10:58 AM (7Y5nA)

227 If Trump (and his 75 million voters) are able to overcome this evil steal and prevail, I don't think there are enough psychiatric hospitals in existence to treat the idiots who have been told for 2 1/2 weeks that Joe is already "President Elect."

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2020 10:59 AM (O+I8R)

228 @SidneyPowell1



#Georgia is squarely in our crosshairs for massive election fraud corruption.

Take note @GovKemp


This is awesome. Somebody dug KungPao Kemp out of his hole and whispered in his ear:


"Treason, bitch. Do you speak it? "

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 21, 2020 10:59 AM (3P/5p)

229 I'll never know but I think I had something like a 'rona episode back in February, felt like crap for several days, but recovered.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Me too.
I was on the lookout for chest pains and shortness of breath because that's what they were saying to look out for in April/May and never had them even though I worked with people who had had it.
I never had those symptoms but I did lose my sense of smell/taste for three days---that never happened to me before--and I felt like I was run over by a truck.

Looking back, I think I had it.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 21, 2020 11:00 AM (HrMC1)

230 The difference in the recount in WI to the slipshod train wreck that happened in GA is appalling. In WI one county employee shows the ballot to the two party reps and ballot goes in the appropriate pile. In GA, the county folks did whatever w only one Republican watcher per 10 tables. GA GOPe permitted this.

Posted by: EveR at November 21, 2020 11:00 AM (DsGxB)

231 "...the idiots who have been told for 2 1/2 weeks that Joe is already "President Elect."

Serves them right. Maybe they won't be so insufferably credulous in the future.

Posted by: attila with coffee at November 21, 2020 11:00 AM (w7KSn)

232 >>If Trump (and his 75 million voters) are able to overcome this evil steal and prevail, I don't think there are enough psychiatric hospitals in existence to treat the idiots who have been told for 2 1/2 weeks that Joe is already "President Elect."

Dan Scavino, Trump's social media guy, posted this video on Thursday. Watch it until the very end, even better with the sound on.

https://tinyurl.com/y4sr9ehl

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2020 11:00 AM (ZLI7S)

233 Just spent over a week in the Big City, being on call for our son, who is recovering from throat cancer treatment.

His sister, who has been his main caregiver, was on family lockdown b/c her youngest got the COVID.

Posted by: Sal at November 21, 2020 11:01 AM (KTdeA)

234 Thank you, Shibumi and Bozo, for the information. I've duped it into a document.

Wishing Bozo a full recovery and continued health for you both!

Posted by: All Hail President Eris, Benevolent Dictatrix at November 21, 2020 11:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

235 Apples are a rich natural source of Quercetin, according to the WebMD link Shibumi provided. How about apples! They really are very good for health in so many ways.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, you can't do that here at November 21, 2020 11:01 AM (a4Fj4)

236 You can get him one of those grow your own human steak kits.
Posted by: TexasDan

Thanks TexasDan! That's a great idea. The hobo of the month club gift card just isn't that exciting anymore.
Posted by: Heidi at November 21, 2020 10:58 AM

...

Sadly it's just a headline gimmick and not actually for sale.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 21, 2020 11:01 AM (2HIdp)

237 184 Matt Noto The issue is political -- the wrong guy (Trump) recommended it (and a
doctor told him about it) and the bureaucratic "experts" in government,
who fucked up COVID response to begin with -- don't like to be proven
wrong.



I've seen HCQ fix a coronavirus patient. It works.



Same for azithromycin: it's the go-to anti-biotic for stubborn infections.



Thats enlightening. When this shit first broke out over here early this year, I had some HCQ, azithromycin, gloves and masks slipped on a container in China, then taken off the container and mailed to me when it hit stateside. HCQ and azithromycin were what was being used in China (ground zero Kung Flu) to treat it. And amazingly its gone in CHina, people falling over each other with no masks. And no one ever talks about that over here.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at November 21, 2020 11:01 AM (cCxiu)

238 90% of all military aircraft in the skies are above America. Is this a big deal?

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 21, 2020 11:01 AM (R1LMN)

239 By "B.C." I'm going to assume you mean "British Columbia", home of the 10-month wait for the maternity ward?


LOL. B.C. is short for Bozo Conservative, who is my husband.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:01 AM (ZCiJZ)

240 Well said, my fellow patriot.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 21, 2020 10:34 AM (Vh3ZW)

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2020 11:01 AM (KnJdm)

Posted by: Kindltot at November 21, 2020 11:02 AM (WyVLE)

242 I'm cautiously optimistic that Trump will prevail, but it's going to come with a price.

I wonder if the media will "soften" up the crazies by at least putting the idea that Trump may prevail on the table, to at least let them consider that possibility.

I bet they don't.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 21, 2020 11:02 AM (HrMC1)

243 And amazingly its gone in CHina, people falling over each other with no masks. And no one ever talks about that over here.


Because they do not want it to end. Look up thread for Bozo Conservatives take on Ivermectin. There are things that would end this. They do not want it to end; they want The Great Reset.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:02 AM (ZCiJZ)

244 I take metoprolol (50 mg per day) for high BP and it's done a pretty good job of keeping it down -- I've generally been having mid-120's/high 70's readings first thing in the am before I even take the med. I do still get occasional spikes if I'm super stressed out or eat a lot of salty junk foods, but as long as I exercise, don't overeat and take the meds I seem to do OK. Are you still considered "high risk" even if your BP seems to be controlled? (Bozo said he was on medication for his BP but he still got really sick).

Posted by: Secret Square at November 21, 2020 11:03 AM (9WuX0)

245 Fauci (spit) has played along. He is a very poor doctor and unethical man.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 09:44 AM (ZCiJZ)


Fauci also failed continually in dealing with HIV. This might be his white whale

Posted by: Kindltot at November 21, 2020 11:03 AM (WyVLE)

246 Glad you both survived. Thank you for writing this. Wife has lung issues and living in a red zone county. Your tip about going to another county may become invaluable.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 21, 2020 11:03 AM (6yYEv)

247 188 Thanks. They offered me the radiation with the seeds but when they did the biopsy it was ready to push out of the posterior wall and I decided to get it done all at once.
Just put in for my Social Security retirement which got approved. Now I want to live long enough to some back from the bastards.

Posted by: kennyraisin at November 21, 2020 11:04 AM (R8qIC)

248 @224

The denigration of HCQ was all part of the op.


They couldn't have an OTC antiviral prophylaxis mucking up the operation.


Fauchi is on record praising HCQ as a very promising general use antiviral, until it wasn't,

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 21, 2020 11:05 AM (qEjZn)

249 "All they have certified with the recount they did was that they counted
the same number of ballots in the recount as in the original count.
There was no check for ballot integrity."

not even that ... wasn't it GA where O'Keefe interviewed a watcher, said they only allowed one watcher per ten (or more?) counters. AND the one he was watching was screwing up and calling Trump ballots for Biden ... till he interjected. Counter did this for several in a few minutes ... only changing to Biden of course. Others were not being watched at all, how many did they change? (for the greater good, they must be thinking)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 21, 2020 11:05 AM (Cus5s)

250 OT.
Which one of you clowns is messing with me? I just got a friend request from someone named Otterman.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2020 11:05 AM (axyOa)

251 {{{Jordan!!!!}}}

Thanks!

Posted by: Heidi at November 21, 2020 11:05 AM (7Y5nA)

252 LOL. B.C. is short for Bozo Conservative, who is my husband.

Thanks for the clarification!

My bad.

I hope you both do well going forward. Best wishes.

Posted by: Matt Noto at November 21, 2020 11:06 AM (/KeBX)

253 Shibumi, glad things are looking up. That experience was obviously a bit scary.

That said, gee, both of you got sick, you approached treatment with clear heads and a plan, didn't freak out and got things done.

Thanks for writing up your experience.


Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at November 21, 2020 11:06 AM (WEBkv)

254 Which one of you clowns is messing with me? I just got a friend request from someone named Otterman.
Posted by: Diogene

Watch your 6!

Posted by: MarkY at November 21, 2020 11:06 AM (i022r)

255 Your tip about going to another county may become invaluable.

That's one of the reasons that I wrote this. I don't want people to have to get so desperately ill that they make two visits to emergency. Going to a smaller, regional hospital was kind of against my way of thinking, but now, I'm 100% on board with it. The key was... it's not in an infection zone.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:06 AM (ZCiJZ)

256 Which one of you clowns is messing with me? I just got a friend request from someone named Otterman.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2020 11:05 AM (axyOa)


Pro-tip
Do not turn your back on him!

Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 11:06 AM (2C38g)

257 90% of all military aircraft in the skies are above America. Is this a big deal?
Posted by: bat nationalist

Huh?

Are 90% even flight worth on any one day?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2020 11:06 AM (Rvt88)

258 "I think I had something like a 'rona episode back in February, felt like crap for several days, but recovered."

I did also around Feb. 21 -- probable fever for one night, followed by 2 days of bad cough (enough to make my sides ache) and 2-3 days of being slightly more fatigued than usual. Only missed 1 day of work (a Friday). I assumed at the time that it could not possibly be COVID, and was just a bad cold, because there had not been any cases reported within 200 miles of our area at that time. Now I have to wonder.....

Posted by: Secret Square at November 21, 2020 11:07 AM (9WuX0)

259 Late this morning.
Bozo and Shibumi, thank you for telling this story.
I came down with a sore throat from sinus drainage yesterday. I am concerned but, no fever, no loss of taste or smell. No respiratory issues.
I didn't sleep well. I too, have high BP but it's under control. A life long history of asthma, pneumonia and other stuff.
I got the flu shot in September and have had the two shot pneumonia vaccine. Taking lots of zinc, Vitamins C and D3.
Be safe everyone and do what you can to avoid this crap.

Posted by: Winston dreg of society at November 21, 2020 11:07 AM (Drr5h)

260 235 Apples are a rich natural source of Quercetin, according to the WebMD link Shibumi provided. How about apples! They really are very good for health in so many ways.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, you can't do that here at November 21, 2020 11:01 AM (a4Fj4)


Two apples a day keeps a group practice at bay!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 21, 2020 11:08 AM (PiwSw)

261 Dr. COVID, or How We Learned to Stop Worrying and Love 2020
Thread title was the threadwinner.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 21, 2020 11:08 AM (3P/5p)

262 >>not even that ... wasn't it GA where O'Keefe interviewed a watcher, said they only allowed one watcher per ten (or more?) counters. AND the one he was watching was screwing up and calling Trump ballots for Biden ... till he interjected. Counter did this for several in a few minutes ... only changing to Biden of course. Others were not being watched at all, how many did they change? (for the greater good, they must be thinking)

That's the thing. Republicans were never allowed to actually see the ballots or the envelops. And not just in Georgia. Same stuff happened in PA and beyond. That in and of itself is illegal.

That's why the left has been so eager to ram this thing through and claim it's a done deal. It's not.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2020 11:09 AM (ZLI7S)

263 Bozo and Shibumi, thank you for this.
Appreciate it!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2020 11:09 AM (axyOa)

264 >>Posted by: kennyraisin at November 21, 2020

++

Damn, dude. Good luck on your radiation. I, too, have prostate cancer and have elected to go the "active surveillance" route for now. PSA has been holding steady over the last year, so no biopsies were performed. I think I'm going to insist on one at my next urologist visit in March, though.

Posted by: fly at November 21, 2020 11:09 AM (TteTU)

265 The MSM will not soften the blow for the libs in case Trump is re-elected. They want outrage and violence. Too bad they don't know who'll be in the crosshairs.

Posted by: Fortcoins at November 21, 2020 11:09 AM (nV60k)

266 Do you take ace inhibitors for high blood pressure? I've read that they may help as they keep the ace2 receptors regulated and may be protective. But who knows?

Thanks for sharing the story. I still don't know anyone directly who has had it. But I'm still cautious about it.

Posted by: InCali at November 21, 2020 11:11 AM (9AFWN)

267 So, if Atlanta burns, will CNN survive?

Posted by: EveR at November 21, 2020 11:11 AM (DsGxB)

268 Apples are a rich natural source of Quercetin, according to the WebMD link Shibumi provided. How about apples! They really are very good for health in so many ways.

--

I don't eat apples every day, but I do like to drink a couple tall glasses of water with Bragg's ACV for health reasons. Anywhere from 2-3 tbsp/day.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 21, 2020 11:11 AM (O+I8R)

269 OT - This might be a good sidebar item:

Code of Vets charity. No matter what you need. Just to pay the bills. Stay in your home. Hold you over until get back to work. I know some of the Horde are hurting. This might help.


Twitter
(shows people they have helped and how)

Code of Vets @codeofvets

EIN 32-0582177 501c3 using social media platforms to help veterans in crisis or in need.$2M+ in 2 yrs 2% operating costs http://paypal.me/codeofvets #codeofvets
Murfreesboro Tennessee, USA
codeofvets.com

Facebook
facebook.com/codeofvets/

Website
codeofvets.com/

Code of Vets -- A Great Veteran Charity
FEBRUARY 19, 2020 by THEOLDGREYBEARD [\i]
https://tinyurl.com/yy78wtlm
He mentions other charities. Those you may or may not recognize.

Not advocating, do your due diligence. It doesn't hurt to ask for help if you need it.

Also, donate if you find they are legit and want to help them.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 21, 2020 11:12 AM (sfhL4)

270 Greetings recuperating fappers.

Great story with a happy ending. Just the thing for reading whilst having a cup of The Elixir of Life.

That image reminds me of the patient in the book Catch 22 who was wrapped up in bandages from head to toe and who had an ingoing IV and an identical outgoing collection bottle that were simply swapped around every few hours.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 21, 2020 11:12 AM (HaL55)

271 >>Are 90% even flight worth on any one day?


Pretty sure he means 90% of military flights currently airborne are over the U.S. How he knows that, I don't know, but as a former military pilot, my question would be: where would you expect them to be?

Posted by: fly at November 21, 2020 11:13 AM (TteTU)

272 I think the best cure for Covid 19 and a host of
other world problems is to nuclear incinerate the Chicoms. Just my
humble opinion

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2020 09:37 AM (85Gof)

Yup, this. I'm always good with the direct approach.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 21, 2020 11:13 AM (9Om/r)

273 @SidneyPowell1



#Georgia is squarely in our crosshairs for massive election fraud corruption.

Take note @GovKemp

This is awesome. Somebody dug KungPao Kemp out of his hole and whispered in his ear:


"Treason, bitch. Do you speak it? "

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 21, 2020 10:59 AM (3P/5p)




I am really really hoping that Trump gets a Godfather baptism scenario to settle all family business soon.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 21, 2020 11:13 AM (Bfg+p)

274 Posted by: Winston dreg of society at November 21, 2020 11:07 AM

Winston, everyone has slightly different symptoms. As for the high BP under control, Bozo Conservative is on blood pressure meds. Yet he still got much, much sicker than I did.If he was not on medication, he very well might have died; I've looked at the stats.


Up thread, someone mentioned America's Frontline Doctors. An appointment costs $90: https://speakwithanmd.com/americasfrontlinedoctors/

If your symptoms change, I would consider it. FYI, the flu/ COVID have almost exactly the same symptoms. I never had shortness of breath or loss of taste/smell.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:13 AM (ZCiJZ)

275 [iJordan, a long time ago before I turned 29, my dermatologist said "Son, you're a Scot, right?"
When I answered in the affirmative, he said "My boy, you were supposed to stay up in the mountains in the fog, and never come down to where the sunlight is!"
Posted by: Commissar-Elect Hrothgar - I Have Earned, And Deserve, Different Rules! at November 21, 2020 10:48 AM (2C38g)


Heh.

Here in SE New Mexico, I never fail to be amazed at the number of redheads I see here. And it's the last climate they ought to be in. The extreme UV indices we get here on a regular basis just destroys their skin...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at November 21, 2020 11:13 AM (ZSK0i)

276 The money is not being made in HCQ, but on the testing...which is practically worthless.

I've been getting 'rona tests for the last 21 months (because of my Mrs.). The only one worth a damn is the test for live virus -- it tells you if you have the virus RIGHT NOW.

However, the test results in both false positives and negatives about 50% of the time.

The "anti-body test" is likewise, useless. It will tell if you've had a Coronavirus, but not necessarily WHEN. If you have antibodies, the virus done up and left and you survived the experience, possibly without ever knowing you had it.

The PCR test is a joke: it looks for Coronavirus DNA. Depending on how many cycles they run (each cycle is effectively going back in time) they may detect fragments of Corona DNA from an infection you had years ago, scoring "a positive".

General Rule of Thumb: if you strike out in finding what you're looking for in the first 20-40 cycles, it's probably not there, and I'm being told the PCR tests are being put through 100 or more cycles (because they produce even more false results), meaning we're finding "more cases". We aren't: we're finding more instances where someone once HAD a 'rona bug, often years ago, and not making the distinction between a new infection and an old one when compiling the stats.

Just like we're not making distinctions on death certificates between people who died OF the end results of 'rona, and people who died WITH 'rona.

Posted by: Matt Noto at November 21, 2020 11:14 AM (/KeBX)

277 Do you take ace inhibitors for high blood pressure? I've read that they
may help as they keep the ace2 receptors regulated and may be protective

Nope. He's on a calcium channel blocker.

I think you are more vulnerable if you have high blood pressure; if you have untreated high blood pressure, that's a bad, bad thing. Many older African American men have HBP that is untreated, which is, I think, why the death rate is so high in Detroit.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:16 AM (ZCiJZ)

278 271 >>Are 90% even flight worth on any one day?


Pretty sure he means 90% of military flights currently airborne are over the U.S. How he knows that, I don't know, but as a former military pilot, my question would be: where would you expect them to be?
Posted by: fly at November 21, 2020 11:13 AM (TteTU)

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I read it as 90% of available (flight worthy?) planes are in the sky now.

Whatever it is, numbers like this are meaningless without context. Is it always 90%? Or is it usually 50% and today it's 90%?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 21, 2020 11:16 AM (22mNy)

279 This got a smile as I'm right now in the Pharmacy at Licking Memorial Hospital. I may have made your Remdesivir.

Posted by: Clayton Barnett

Wow. Just wow. Thank you so much for the work you're doing, and please, please, thank everyone you work with at Licking Memorial for their professionalism and patience. The difference between your hospital and Mt. Carmel was night and day, and will continue to go to Licking Memorial.

On behalf of Pharmacy, you're welcome. Email me sometime and we can have a mini-moron-meetup in the area!

Posted by: Clayton Barnett at November 21, 2020 11:16 AM (zdD7e)

280 The antibody plasma was shipped in from D.C.

It would be cool if the antibody plasma came from Donald Trump. Tiger blood!

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 21, 2020 11:17 AM (4JM5Y)

281 Buongiorno.

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2020 11:17 AM (zr5Kq)

282 I'm detecting the same hysteria here that got us perpetual masks.

Question: If this was the annual flu, would this story have been written up as a post or written as a thread comment?

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 21, 2020 11:17 AM (Fs5vw)

283 RE: testing, we know Bozo Conservative has it because he had the classic COVID pattern on his lung x-ray. Plus the positive hospital test.

I never got tested, but am going to the Red Cross to get an antibody test, and if I did have it, I will donate.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:17 AM (ZCiJZ)

284 On the flip side, I received a call last evening from the wife of a very good friend up in Michigan. Late last week, he complained of shortness of breath and had a fever. She took him to the ER and he was admitted. Five days later, he died. Covid. 58 years old, but had two comorbidities. Damn.

Posted by: fly at November 21, 2020 09:52 AM (Us3pf)



My condolences.

I hate to ask, but being very much the same age as your friend and also having medical issues myself, you wouldn't happen to know which comorbidities, would you? I'm trying to get the best sense of which ones are the most dangerous.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at November 21, 2020 11:17 AM (ZSK0i)

285 Happy anniversary!!

Seconded!


Our 17th is next week.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 21, 2020 11:17 AM (HaL55)

286 I did also around Feb. 21 -- probable fever for one night, followed by 2 days of bad cough (enough to make my sides ache) and 2-3 days of being slightly more fatigued than usual. Only missed 1 day of work (a Friday). I assumed at the time that it could not possibly be COVID, and was just a bad cold, because there had not been any cases reported within 200 miles of our area at that time. Now I have to wonder.....
Posted by: Secret Square at November 21, 2020 11:07 AM (9WuX0)

Me too. In mid Feb I got an awful sore throat and then had a dry cough which came in fits and hung around for a while. One night I had chills, but it was only for the one night. I'd like to think I had a mild case, but again, who knows?

I had an antibody test in late June that came up negative since I had blood work done anyway. Put then there's the sero reversion, so I guess it's possible I had them and they were gone. Or probably I never had them.

Posted by: InCali at November 21, 2020 11:18 AM (9AFWN)

287

OT

If you haven't seen this yet, from Lin Wood.

A couple of videos that might be showing shredding of evidence, absentee ballots or envelopes. You decide.

Scroll down for 19H ago. Three videos in a row.

Lin Wood @LLinWood

19h
Looks to me like they may be destroying election documents in Cobb County, GA.

What do you think?

#FightBack Against Election Crimes


twitter.com/LLinWood/with_replies

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 21, 2020 11:19 AM (sfhL4)

288 If this was the annual flu, would this story have been written up as a post or written as a thread comment?



No, not at all. But then, if this was the annual flu, I'm not sure that hospitals would be at 124% capacity. Maybe they would be, maybe not.


I am sure that if this was the annual flu, people would not be forced to go alone into isolation in the ER and in the hospital, and would be denied visitors. Which in itself is problematic.

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:19 AM (ZCiJZ)

289 Mrs kim and i are at the beginning. She tested positive yesterday. She feels like she has a cold. Her O2 is 95%. Im feeling the same but add a little short of breathe O2 at 89% or so.(i always run lower). Holding steady. Will watch out. Anyhow we will get by.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 21, 2020 11:19 AM (0OmEj)

290 Because they do not want it to end. Look up thread for Bozo Conservatives take on Ivermectin. There are things that would end this. They do not want it to end; they want The Great Reset.


Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:02 AM (ZCiJZ)
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Right on as Rush would say! That's why the story of the wife feeding her husband poisonous fish tank cleaner became the MSM's rallying cry - Look taking HCQ will kill you!

No matter that the fish tank cleaner ingredient was not the medicinal HCQ for treatment. And there were problems in the marriage that should have red-flagged his death.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 21, 2020 11:20 AM (oGBso)

291 Shibumi
Thank you for that information. I'm monitoring my symptoms closely. I'm in WA state so a hangnail gets called Covid case. I have to be very careful as I've been taking a friend to chemo since July.
She's gotten her next appointment at a hospital 15 miles from her home instead of dragging across the pass to Seattle which is a 400 mile round trip.

Right now, I have a roll of paper towels to blow my nose with and a box on the floor to hold the used ones next to my desk.
I haven't had this in years and it's annoying.

Posted by: Winston dreg of society at November 21, 2020 11:20 AM (Drr5h)

292 Shibumi and Bozo, thank you for sharing your experiences and suggestions. This is valuable information.

And I'm so glad to hear you are on the mend! May God grant you a speedy and complete recovery.

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 21, 2020 11:20 AM (4JM5Y)

293 257
90% of all military aircraft in the skies are above America. Is this a big deal?

Posted by: bat nationalist



Huh?



Are 90% even flight worth on any one day?


That would make sense. I assume that 100 percent of the institutional training is above America. Particularly on the weekends when the National Guard, Air National Guard, and Navy Reserve are more likely to be flying.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 21, 2020 11:21 AM (jK8Z7)

294 Our 17th is next week.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 21, 2020 11:17 AM (HaL55)

Happy Anniversary to you two love birds!

Posted by: Heidi at November 21, 2020 11:21 AM (7Y5nA)

295 >>> 167 Regarding hillbilly Ohio, it's nice to live in a place where people wave at you when you pass them in the car or as you drive by them in their yard
Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 21, 2020 10:34 AM (zBf3k)

In KS & OK it was the 1 finger wave. No, not the middle finger. Your hand on the steering wheel you just raise your index finger. Somebody doesn't give you a finger wave back they're probably city folk or just naturally onery.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 21, 2020 11:21 AM (l6b3d)

296 I'm detecting the same hysteria here that got us perpetual masks.

Question: If this was the annual flu, would this story have been written up as a post or written as a thread comment?
Posted by: Justsayin' at November 21, 2020 11:17 AM (Fs5vw)


Really?

C'mon, man.

Many of us have not met anyone with the virus.

We do not know much about it because everything is a lie. It is good to get firsthand accounts.

Geez. There is always one.

Going back to the kitchen. Leg of Lamb going into the oven soon for a late lunch/early dinner.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 21, 2020 11:22 AM (sfhL4)

297 Listen, Trumps tweets had very specific misspellings. In advance of the election. For months he was telegraphing the sting.

Republican
RepublIcan
Republiican

Etc.


That means he KNEW in advance, in detail what they were going to do. They monitored the same fraud in 2018.

No way in hell Trump isn't going to be putting these people in Gitmo for the executions for Treason & Sedition

This is how the code in the election fraud worked. Something small and hard to notice for anyone scanning the code. The misspelled Republican with the uppercase I would transfer straight ticket votes to Biden.

It was intentional. A misspelled RepublIcan Trump tweeted it in advance.


He's just waiting to drop the hammer.

Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 21, 2020 11:22 AM (CFTBk)

298 BTW thank you Shibumi Undocumented Plague Wife and Bozo Conservative for sharing your story. There is nothing in the MSM that can be trusted when it comes to the reporting on this issue.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 21, 2020 11:23 AM (oGBso)

299 Where are the temporary hospitals that they set up that went unused for the most part? Do they not want to set them up again in the 'hot spots'?

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 21, 2020 11:24 AM (2DOZq)

300 ex-Navy AO1 here:

I'd be positively SHOCKED if the US military had 90% of it's aircraft airworthy at any given time, let alone flying, anywhere.

It was rare to have a 90% availability on a carrier (for obvious reasons), despite having the best maintenance people and mechs. I don't know about land-based planes.

Modern aircraft are a maintenance nightmare.

Posted by: Matt Noto at November 21, 2020 11:24 AM (/KeBX)

301 The misspelled Republican with the uppercase I would transfer straight ticket votes to Biden.


I think the uppercase I replaced the lower case L: RepubIican.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 21, 2020 11:25 AM (jK8Z7)

302 Nice surprise to see this post here this morning.

Posted by: KT at November 21, 2020 11:25 AM (BVQ+1)

303 COVID cormobidities: https://tinyurl.com/y4hzwe7s

Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:25 AM (ZCiJZ)

304
Vernon Jones is a god-send.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 21, 2020 11:26 AM (eb38o)

305 Where are the temporary hospitals that they set up that went unused for the most part? Do they not want to set them up again in the 'hot spots'?

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 21, 2020 11:24 AM (2DOZq)
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Those were all torn down within weeks of being set up, at the expense of hundreds of millions of dollars.

The temp hospitals in NYC treated less than a hundred people total, I'm pretty sure.

The temp hospital in Chicago at McCormick Place treated maybe a dozen people.

But the right people got paid millions to set them up, then tear them down.

My personal opinion is that once the big city governments figured out that actually taking care of sick peasants would save lives of the peasants, they couldn't get those temp hospitals torn down fast enough.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 21, 2020 11:27 AM (oGBso)

306 300
ex-Navy AO1 here:



I'd be positively SHOCKED if the US military had 90% of it's aircraft airworthy at any given time, let alone flying, anywhere.



It was rare to have a 90% availability on a carrier (for obvious
reasons), despite having the best maintenance people and mechs. I don't
know about land-based planes.



Modern aircraft are a maintenance nightmare.

Posted by: Matt Noto at November 21, 2020 11:24 AM (/KeBX)

I don't think it was 90 percent of the operational aircraft. I think it was, of the aircraft that are in the sky, 90 percent of them are over CONUS and 10 percent are OCONUS. That doesn't strike me as particularly unusual, especially with Thanksgiving coming up, so optional air missions are likely to be curtailed due to troops/sailors/airmen on leave, and with this being a weekend, the Guard and Reserve will be in the sky.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 21, 2020 11:27 AM (jK8Z7)

307 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 21, 2020 11:22 AM (sfhL4)

He's not criticizing the post but rather pointing out that a story that happens every year to thousands that goes unreported is now the top story.

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 21, 2020 11:27 AM (2DOZq)

308 >>> That would make sense. I assume that 100 percent of the institutional training is above America. Particularly on the weekends when the National Guard, Air National Guard, and Navy Reserve are more likely to be flying.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 21, 2020 11:21 AM (jK8Z7)


They train a lot by me so I'm used to it. They do have, on occasion, large force exercises where there's a surge into the area, they swarm off coast, and then disperse. Nice if if you like to watch military aircraft but it can get a bit noisy.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 21, 2020 11:27 AM (l6b3d)

309

I'd read this thing through, thinking it was just the lead in to some hot, depraved Moron sex, but nooooo...

Anyway... Good Job, Shibozo!

I know absolutely no one stricken with The Virus, and it's helpful to know what to expect should it come to me or mine...

Posted by: Zettai at November 21, 2020 11:27 AM (J7U/R)

310 Vitamin D3 is fat soluble. Make sure you take it with a meal that includes some type of fat. I take it with a protein shake with added cocoanut oil and olive oil.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at November 21, 2020 11:28 AM (B76OU)

311 Great post guys! I'm tickled to hear you are both well and/or on the mend.

Posted by: Muad'dib at November 21, 2020 11:29 AM (sjdRT)

312 OK. I read the account. First, I am thrilled that both of you are all right. Second, thank you for writing it up for us. Not everyone knows anyone who had it and do not what is involved. Very helpful.

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2020 11:29 AM (zr5Kq)

313
Bumper sticker for the recovering"

"I LICKED IT BY LICKING HOSPITALS "

Posted by: Saf at November 21, 2020 11:29 AM (5IHGB)

314 Incidentally, most quercetin is not very well absorbed without an equivalent amount of Vitamin C. Or maybe some fat.

Posted by: KT at November 21, 2020 11:30 AM (BVQ+1)

315 Yeah, you probably correct. I'm just pointing it out generally. On my phone and don't have time to look it up per se.

Just want to point out how Trump KNEW. Does anyone really think he's not going to take them ALL down?

I'm just warming up my popcorn. Gonna be a great show.

Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 21, 2020 11:30 AM (CFTBk)

316 I know absolutely no one stricken with The Virus, and it's helpful to know what to expect should it come to me or mine...

I was convinced I had the flu; however, since I was sick, and Bozo Conservative got it four days after me, they count me as a case. BTW... I did try to quarantine before he got sick.


My symptoms were consistent. His were up and down. Overall, we had completely different experiences.

BTW... flu and COVID symptoms are exactly the same, and you don't have to have ALL the symptoms to have it. I did not have any of the telltale COVID symptoms.

Posted by: President Elect Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:30 AM (ZCiJZ)

317 >>I read it as 90% of available (flight worthy?) planes are in the sky now.


Again, speaking as a former military pilot, a 90% flight-cable figure out all aircraft in U.S. inventory is highly, highly suspect, let alone all being airborne at the same time.

Posted by: fly at November 21, 2020 11:31 AM (TteTU)

318 My own experience with Chinese corona was a lot less severe.

I'm 70 years old, overweight, with type 2 diabetes, impaired kidney function, and a chronic cough. I had a mild heat attack in 2006, and every day I take 3 insulin shots and more pills than Elvis.

I had chills and muscle aches for two days, then it was over. I didn't even know it was covid until I took a blood test for covid antibodies a month later.

Totally irrelevant aside: I was born at Mt. Carmel hospital in Columbus.

Posted by: Toad-O at November 21, 2020 11:31 AM (cct0t)

319 I am sure that if this was the annual flu, people would not be forced to go alone into isolation in the ER and in the hospital, and would be denied visitors. Which in itself is problematic.
Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:19 AM (ZCiJZ)
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Both my wife and I have come down with something that appears to be not much more than some sort of seasonal bug. My wife has slowed down a bit, not much, and I've not really slowed down at all.

No real fever, just a cough, some nasal congestion, etc. (I'm an asthmatic, early stages of emphysema and had Valley Fever, which scarred my lungs)

But, because of the hysteria, we're keeping a low profile and staying home as much as possible.

And, my personal opinion, the Covid hysteria has had the opposite effect of what was expected.

I honestly believe those who need to seek medical treatment are avoiding it, because of the quarantine consequences and those who don't really need to see a doctor are overloading the system.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at November 21, 2020 11:31 AM (WEBkv)

320
Big rally in front of fake news cnn now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwZWhY1GJr4

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 21, 2020 11:32 AM (eb38o)

321 He's not criticizing the post but rather pointing out that a story that
happens every year to thousands that goes unreported is now the top
story.


LOL. I don't know if a thread on Saturday morning, which is usually about "coffee" can be considered the top story.

Posted by: President Elect Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:32 AM (ZCiJZ)

322 They have double blind studies showing D3 helps prevent infection from Covid and a lighter case if you do get it. They know most people are deficient, especially dark skinned people in northern latitudes. Yet you hear nothing recommending you take it. Yes, you can take too much but their recommendation is like 200IU which is not dangerous. They want people to get sick and die

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 21, 2020 11:32 AM (YynYJ)

323 Timely article in WattsUpWithThat, from Kip Hansen

https://tinyurl.com/y2ug2hf6

Posted by: MarkY at November 21, 2020 11:32 AM (i022r)

324 I honestly believe those who need to seek medical treatment are avoiding it, because of the quarantine consequences and those who don't really need to see a doctor are overloading the system.


==



there is some of that, for sure

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2020 11:33 AM (zr5Kq)

325 COVID cormobidities: https://tinyurl.com/y4hzwe7s



Hmmm. We had someone pass away from COVID out where my wife works who was, as I recall, in his early 50's. He was noticeably obese and, as it turns out, had serious kidney issues.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at November 21, 2020 11:33 AM (ZSK0i)

326 I've seen HCQ fix a coronavirus patient. It works.

Same for azithromycin: it's the go-to anti-biotic for stubborn infections.
Posted by: Matt Noto

Yes, I was getting Azithromicin before my hospital stay and in an IV at the hospital. For lung infections, which Covid 19 makes you vulnerable to ( I got Pneumonia).

There is TONS of "anecdotal" clinical information as to how well HCQ + Zinc works. We were told at Mt Carmel East that it was "no good", by the "literal" Karen nurse at the front desk.

See, this is the medical disinformation problem.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 11:34 AM (ZCiJZ)

327 Nood, ya'll.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 21, 2020 11:34 AM (Rvt88)

328 278 271 >>Are 90% even flight worth on any one day?


Pretty sure he means 90% of military flights currently airborne are over the U.S. How he knows that, I don't know, but as a former military pilot, my question would be: where would you expect them to be?
Posted by: fly at November 21, 2020 11:13 AM (TteTU)

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I read it as 90% of available (flight worthy?) planes are in the sky now.

Whatever it is, numbers like this are meaningless without context. Is it always 90%? Or is it usually 50% and today it's 90%?
Posted by: Asshoes at November 21, 2020 11:16 AM

I saw this the other day, regarding US mil flights in air at any given time. Some sort of tracking app the guy is using. This goes to the direct info that day, but click over to the guy's main feed and there may be more updated info:

https://tinyurl.com/yyeyw34y

main feed: https://mobile.twitter.com/mil_ops

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at November 21, 2020 11:35 AM (3GzTP)

329
I am sure that if this was the annual flu, people would not be forced to go alone into isolation in the ER and in the hospital, and would be denied visitors. Which in itself is problematic.
Posted by: Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:19 AM (ZCiJZ)



Please ask yourself if this was really a result of the virus or extreme media and political hype.

For as long as I can remember, the years that OK has been hit hard by the annual flu, hospitals have always been at capacity or more.

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 21, 2020 11:37 AM (Fs5vw)

330 "Where are the temporary hospitals that they set up that went unused for the most part? Do they not want to set them up again in the 'hot spots'?"

This is the usual government response to every "crisis". Especially a "crisis" government has manufactured. That is to say, OVERKILL, and always after the horse has shit and bolted the barn.

Just a theory on my part, but, the left's platform for the last 40 years has been:

1. Commitment to "Diversity".
2. Open Borders
3. Government-run healthcare, including expansion of Medicare and Medicaid
4. High-density urban living for "environmental" purposes.
5. Pushing people to use public transportation.

If you live in New York City, like I do, here's how it looks:

The Diversity crossed the Open Borders and infected everyone with a virus that easily spreads. The city(government)-run hospitals were inundated by illegals, the elderly (who depend upon Medicare and Medicaid), who crashed the system, aided and abetted by a public transportation system (Subways) which helped spread the virus very quickly in a high-density, urban environment.

This happened in an election year, no less.

So, we can see what the left's vision of America leads to: outbreaks of disease brought by immigrants and allowed in by lax immigration control (especially in the area of catching infectious diseases), government hospitals that cannot respond to them, and then democrats imposing lockdowns, mass unemployment, economic ruin, school closings, and diktats regarding mandatory testing and masks, and restrictions on freedom of association and travel.

Here in NYC, the State Police were sent into Private, for-profit and non-profit hospitals to forcibly TAKE equipment, drugs and PPE to be given to the failing city-run hospitals.

The one hospital singled out as The Worst (Elmhurst, in Queens) serves neighborhoods with names like "Chinatown", "Koreatown" and "Little Egypt". All countries where coronaviruses are very common ('rona is not native to North America: it comes from East Asia and the Middle East. Basically, anywhere the Mongol Horde went).

The more you suffered, wondering how you were going to pay the rent or where your next meal was coming from, of if your kids were in danger because they went to algebra class, the less you noticed who was responsible.

And the more you didn't care how much was wasted in the response. I'll bet a good portion of the money spent here made it's way back to DeBlasio, Cuomo, AOC, and democrats, in general.

And then the Guy In Charge gets blamed, and he has to be made a scapegoat.

Posted by: Matt Noto at November 21, 2020 11:37 AM (/KeBX)

331 Which one of you clowns is messing with me? I just got a friend request from someone named Otterman.

Full name: Naked Guy On The

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 21, 2020 11:37 AM (oVJmc)

332 Thank you for sharing this. Very good info.
I'm very confident that my whole family got it in February. (Vectors: We live in a university town with many Chinese students, and I work on a military base where personnel regularly rotate in from South Korea.)
For my wife (younger than me) and my daughter it was just a bad cold with two-three days of mild fever.
For me -- male, age 50, slightly overweight and high blood pressure -- it was four-five weeks of sneezing and coughing and fatigue, repeatedly starting to get better and then getting worse again. A period of several days in the first week where my sense of smell was severely blunted, a symptom I had never before experienced with any illness. Mild fever that came and went, and one night where it spiked hard for a couple of hours. And a nasty sinus infection (I was blowing out gunk that was BROWN -- never seen that before) that required a Z-pack.

Posted by: Rob Hobart at November 21, 2020 11:38 AM (wgW+t)

333 Additional Blond Agent: Re: my good friend who passed.

He had some form of cancer. I don't know what type. His wife didn't say and I didn't pry. She said he also had a compromised immune system and was taking meds for it. Again, she wasn't specific and I didn't ask. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

Posted by: fly at November 21, 2020 11:39 AM (TteTU)

334
There is TONS of "anecdotal" clinical information as to how well HCQ + Zinc works. We were told at Mt Carmel East that it was "no good", by the "literal" Karen nurse at the front desk.

See, this is the medical disinformation problem.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 21, 2020 11:34 AM (ZCiJZ)
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And this is a direct result of our media playing politics with public health.

The media could have easily put this all to rest with decent reporting, which isn't that hard to do, but, instead, fed the flame of hysteria all because they hate President Trump.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at November 21, 2020 11:40 AM (WEBkv)

335 Anyway, thanks for this thread, I've never been to any of the various in person events, but I'm so grateful to have this community of friends in gray boxes to check in with daily. Keeps me going here in deep blue America.

Heading out to what's left of our local farmer's market. They've extended the last last market to next Saturday, to try and give the farmers (mostly fruit growers at this point) some income.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 21, 2020 11:40 AM (oGBso)

336 Thanks Heidi.

We need to remember what this pandemic is and where it originated: it's a bioweapon that was developed in a ChiCom lab and "accidentally" escaped the facility. Funny how PROGDA never seems to mention that little factoid. Also funny is how that weapon has been used for different attacks on us, the latest in an attempt to rig the election to install Puddinhead O'Biden as preezy.

It's almost as if this was all planned in advance. Almost...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 21, 2020 11:41 AM (HaL55)

337 Dan Scavino, Trump's social media guy, posted this video on Thursday. Watch it until the very end, even better with the sound on.

https://tinyurl.com/y4sr9ehl
Posted by: JackStraw at November 21, 2020 11:00 AM (ZLI7S)

HA! Scavino is really good!

Posted by: Tami at November 21, 2020 11:41 AM (cF8AT)

338 kennyraisin, godspeed.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2020 11:43 AM (KnJdm)

339 There are some other tips on OTC compounds to use against COVID 19 in the Marik Covid 19 Protocol from Wastern Virginia Medical School. I think the amount of zinc is a little too high in the prophylaxis section unless you are having symptoms.

Posted by: KT at November 21, 2020 11:43 AM (BVQ+1)

340 I think the amount of zinc is a little too high in the prophylaxis section unless you are having symptoms.


I didn't use the zinc/bio quercetin until I HAD symptoms. So I wasn't using it as a prophylaxis, but I think you could, if you dropped the zinc to 25mg.

Posted by: President Elect Shibumi, undocumented plague wife at November 21, 2020 11:45 AM (ZCiJZ)

341 Quercetin with Zinc, C and D are lifesavers imo. I had something that attacked my lungs. A burning fire I had never experienced in my life. It started at the bottom and slowly rose. When it got to the point at the bottom of my breasts, the doorbell rang. It was Amazon finally delivering my Quercetin along with the zinc, A and D which I took immediately. 1.5 hours later, the burning was completely gone. I did not know it should be taken twice a day and 12 hours later, the cytokine storm hit my lungs again. Retook the drugs and again was gone in 1.5 hours. I took the cocktail twice a day for months as I was afraid of a return episode.

My husband also got it and the Quercetin worked for him as well.

Posted by: Cesta De Plorable at November 21, 2020 11:47 AM (HbEWj)

342 The media isn't playing politics. This was a coup. An act of war. Treason. Sedition. Subversion.

This was the media - ALL the media is owned by only 6 corporations. 6 massive corporations - Disney, ATT, etc. Actively participating in a coup, an overthrow of the government. Some 275 executives in on the coup.

Hope they enjoy Gitmo.

Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 21, 2020 11:47 AM (CFTBk)

343 In KS & OK it was the 1 finger wave. No, not the middle finger. Your hand on the steering wheel you just raise your index finger. Somebody doesn't give you a finger wave back they're probably city folk or just naturally onery.
Posted by: banana Dream

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Yep.

Index finger on the steering wheel for everyone, all four fingers for people you know.

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 21, 2020 11:47 AM (pk9Sm)

344 He had some form of cancer. I don't know what type. His wife didn't say and I didn't pry. She said he also had a compromised immune system and was taking meds for it. Again, she wasn't specific and I didn't ask. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

Posted by: fly at November 21, 2020 11:39 AM (TteTU)


That's specific enough. Your followup's very much appreciated.

Myself, I'm most concerned about the hypertension/ cardiovascular disease aspect on the one hand and also what possible effects a familiar genetic collagen defect (which seems to come with some inflammatory immune system behaviors) might also have.

Ironic that it's the Chinese that have the saying about living in interesting times...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at November 21, 2020 11:47 AM (ZSK0i)

345 Briar Ohio. Apparently "briarkicker" used to be a word. But yep, the old name for Ohio's Appalachian community is "briars."

Posted by: suburbanbanshee at November 21, 2020 11:52 AM (sF8WE)

346 We only took 15 mg of zinc twice a day (The amount in Centrum Silver) and that worked for us luckily.

I forgot to mention above that I knew I needed to go to hospital as I was gasping for breath and vomiting due to low oxygen level, but I knew they would vent me and I decided I had rather die at home than be put through that torture. I was lucky that Amazon came with the Quercetin which I believe saved my life.

Posted by: Cesta De Plorable at November 21, 2020 11:53 AM (HbEWj)

347 My personal opinion is that once the big city
governments figured out that actually taking care of sick peasants would
save lives of the peasants, they couldn't get those temp hospitals torn
down fast enough.





Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 21, 2020 11:27 AM (oGBso)


__________


"You say that like it's a bad thing." -- Gov. Fredo-the-Elder (CCP - NY)

[Thanks for the write-up ShiBozo -- glad that you had a ... uhm ... "happy ending"? ;-) ]

Posted by: ShainS at November 21, 2020 11:55 AM (WqPYg)

348 Cesta, which Quercetin did you get?

Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 21, 2020 11:56 AM (K2Cvh)

349 Bozo Conservative and Shibumi, thank you for sharing your story. It must have been very scary and I am so glad you are both ok.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 21, 2020 11:59 AM (HTkE0)

350 For those with inflammation, look up Golden paste. It's tumeric in coconut oil with pepper. Tumeric has anti inflammatory properties as does coconut oil. Pepper keeps it in your system longer.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 21, 2020 12:00 PM (YynYJ)

351 I tried the turmeric route and oddly enough, I'm sensitive to it. Go figure.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at November 21, 2020 12:03 PM (ZSK0i)

352 Good for you, Shibumi and Bozo Conservative!

Vitamin A is also good for the immune system. Don't overdose on it, but make sure your tank is full. And wrap up warm if you think you have the coof, because this virus hates heat.

Put a heating pad or some kind of hot or reflective thing directly on the chest, for added oomph to help your lungs and heart.

Obviously drink lots of fluids.

Posted by: suburbanbanshee at November 21, 2020 12:04 PM (sF8WE)

353 I avoid turmeric coz I get low iton snd turmeric blocks iron absorption

Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 21, 2020 12:05 PM (K2Cvh)

354 And I agree those that think this was a planned political op from the beginning.

One must ask themselves, who in our country has the closest financial and political ties to China?

Answer: The dems/deep state/globalists. And with open communication between these entities, this really would not be hard to set up. Especially with the MFM and their cohorts in China.

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 21, 2020 12:08 PM (Fs5vw)

355 I buy powdered quercetin from Amazon. I can't take capsules any more, so I mix it with olive oil, contents of Restroval capsules and 2 crushed up Cardio plus tablets from Standard Process. I have liquid zinc in a 15mg dose I can take as well as a 50mg pill. I try to take this daily but do sometimes miss a day. I have powdered vitamin C and magnesium take I take in water at night. If I start to feel sick, I mix up some C with water and drink that during the day.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 21, 2020 12:09 PM (YynYJ)

356 Need coffee. Proper grammar is suffering.

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 21, 2020 12:09 PM (Fs5vw)

357 Godspeed on a swift recovery.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 21, 2020 11:19 AM (0OmEj)

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 21, 2020 12:09 PM (KnJdm)

358 Re: prayer intentions, it's not like a pie that has diminishing people. God is infinite, so it's not like you can't pray for an infinite number of people.

Heck, you can even pray for people in the past and future, because God is omnipresent and omnipotent and omniscient within all points in time/space, as well as eternal beyond it.

Think big! "Ask a sign from the Lord your God, from the depths of sheol to the heights above."

Posted by: suburbanbanshee at November 21, 2020 12:14 PM (sF8WE)

359 Glad you both are getting better.

Everybody be careful out there - it's going to get worse before it gets better.

Posted by: Peter Zenger at November 21, 2020 12:24 PM (WWHxh)

360 348: Vmom. I doubt it makes much difference, but I got the Amazing Formulas 500 mg vcaps.

Posted by: Cesta De Plorable at November 21, 2020 12:34 PM (HbEWj)

361 https://bit.ly/3kSSV1u

Tamara K.
@TamSlick
They said that a mask and gloves were all you need, but I couldn't help noticing that all the shoppers who were looking at me all judgy-like were wearing pants and shirts, too.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 21, 2020 12:48 PM (i9ZF7)

362 Posted by: Peter Zenger at November 21, 2020 12:24 PM (WWHxh)

This dude is a troll. FYI. This person posted some really crappy stuff a day or two ago.

Posted by: Derak at November 21, 2020 01:06 PM (k0WjC)

363 Always at the end of a thread, too.

Posted by: Derak at November 21, 2020 01:06 PM (k0WjC)

364 Glad to hear positive outcome. This thing sucks.

Posted by: Rando T Rioter at November 21, 2020 01:13 PM (t3YBx)

365 Thank you for sharing. I am glad you are doing better. My wife and I are of a certain age, I'm healthy and she isn't (kidney problems, etc), so if I get it things could be bad for her.

Again, thank you for all the information.

Posted by: JM in Florida - I search w DuckDuckGo at November 21, 2020 01:30 PM (HCeRP)

366 33 Jeffrey Dahmer:

No one is going to tell me how many people I can have for Thanksgiving dinner.
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 21, 2020 09:35 AM (9TdxA)

I heard he liked white and dark me.

Posted by: Trump won in a landslide at November 21, 2020 01:35 PM (e+ZAK)

367 Thanks for sharing your story!

Even though I'm over the coof, I'm still taking extra C, D, and Zinc.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, the other CW at November 21, 2020 01:58 PM (aommx)

368 This dude is a troll. FYI. This person posted some really crappy stuff a day or two ago.
Posted by: Derak


Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

Posted by: Peter Zenger at November 21, 2020 02:10 PM (WWHxh)

369 Shibumi and BC, any idea how this infection got into your household?

So glad you've emerged safe and sound.

Posted by: Judy London at November 21, 2020 02:32 PM (MsA7o)

370 Thank you very much for taking the time to share this with the Horde, Shibumi and Bozo CPH. There is some advice and information I was not aware of. It could and will likely save lives.

I have bookmarked your post for just in case.

I am a fellow Buckeye, by the way. My area is a hot spot too.

Take care and God bless you and yours!

Posted by: Lace gloves or panties click heer at November 21, 2020 05:51 PM (7RzBN)

371 The monoclonal antibodies frm lily andnregeneron especially are better than plasma. There's a certain dose of antibodies, in plasma its variable. Then plasma had a countervailing downside - it can trigger clotting (doesn't always but it's a risk) and it can cancel out the benefit if antibodies. We should all have access via EUA to Regeneron but the FDA is obstacle-dogging it. LIly, less trump friendly got its EUA a little over a week ago and it already helping older folks a lot. Women can get very ill, but men have extra risk, since they have more of the receptors that are the main point of entry for SARS CoV-2 in the cell. That's the ACE2 receptor, and when it's coopted it deranged feedback loops in the RAS which cause a cascade of issues, including cellular damage from oxidative stress. Being Vitamin D deficient is a risk factor because the active form in the blood reduces oxidative stress.

Posted by: SarahW at November 21, 2020 06:34 PM (g1vnC)

372 I'm really late to the party, but it sounds like Shibumi & Bozo Conservative are in my neck of the woods. I'm 6 miles from MCE and 20ish from LMH. Also, I wouldn't put my dog in Mount Carmel East -- too many bad experiences there with my wife.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at November 21, 2020 08:21 PM (1uBGK)

373 55 Use pneumovax to protect against developing bacterial pneumonia due to COVID. Check my link for a recent blog post!
Posted by: scrood at November 21, 2020 09:52 AM (5S5p9)

Good reminder. I need to call my docs on Monday and find out when I'm due for my next pneumonia vaccine. They started giving it to me after I had pneumonia in '01. You're supposed to get a booster every few years, and I don't rightly know if I'm covered now. Having had it once, I can definitely say "Don't recommend".

Posted by: LibraryGryffon at November 21, 2020 08:56 PM (4c08c)

374 Good fucking panic post. You hit all the highlights: convoluted tale of describing retarded self medication based on friends and internet posts, incredulous realization that you're actualy sick, panic, filled up hospitals, long and again convulted tale of recovery, lots of medical nomencaltrue and ridiculous drug names... great job. Leave it up to Missy Humanitarian the fair-to-middl'in conservative from Wisconsin to post this mess.

Posted by: Banned at November 21, 2020 09:05 PM (NbsDz)

375 374 -

I can see why you're banned. Lack of thought process and presence of ad hominems.

Posted by: LibraryGryffon at November 21, 2020 09:45 PM (4c08c)

376 Still no response to my question as to where you think you might have picked this virus up. It didn't come from nothing. When, where, and from whom? Surely you have thought about this. Care to share? Or are we to buy the idea that behavior doesn't matter.

Posted by: Judy London at November 22, 2020 09:14 AM (MsA7o)

377 @Judy London,

Considering the virus can be "picked up" in a public lavatory, a dormitory, any place someone has sneezed in the last 15 minutes, or so, you get a mess of letters and bills sealed with spit delivered to your door every day by a government employee, and masks have been definitively proven to be ineffective as a defense against the Peking Pox, I would say

NO. Behavior doesn't (much) matter.

Viruses do some mysterious things.

Would you ask someone the same question if they had caught chicken pox?

Posted by: Matt Noto at November 23, 2020 01:48 AM (/KeBX)

378 @JudyLondon: I got mumps the summer I was 20. We have absolutely no idea where I got it from. Probably someone on a bus in Dublin, but it takes a week or so before the swelling starts. Same with the year I got flu. I didn't know anyone who had it, but I was nearly sick enough to end up hospitalized. Probably got it from someone I passed in the hall at work, but it could have been through the kids' daycare, or shopping. Viruses do their thing.

Posted by: LibraryGryffon at November 23, 2020 02:48 AM (4c08c)

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