Sunday Morning Book Thread 11-08-2020

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which I suppose are great if you want to noodle around at a friend's barbecue.

Pic Note:

Admont Abbey Library is the largest monastic library in the world:

The library hall, built in 1776...contains c. 70,000 volumes of the monastery's entire holdings of c. 200,000 volumes. The ceiling consists of seven cupolas, decorated with frescoes by Bartolomeo Altomonte showing the stages of human knowledge up to the high point of Divine Revelation. Light is provided by 48 windows and is reflected by the original colour scheme of gold and white. The architecture and design express the ideals of the Enlightenment, against which the sculptures by Joseph Stammel of "The Four Last Things" make a striking contrast.

This is a repeat from last year, but MP⁴ sent me this gorgeous photo that gives you a great shot of that fantastic ceiling, so I had to use it.

An Oldie, But A Goodie:

108 Reading is fundamental: fun and mental!

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 07, 2016 10:07 AM (UBS9M)

It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

Has this ever happened to you? In my career, I was laid off many times, but never at Christmas. I've known some people who have, though, and I can't help asking, "what kind of a-hole company does this?"

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How Did We Get Here?

People complain a lot about how modern elections are done, i.e. using polling and focus groups data analysis and such to tailor the message to appeal to certain demographic groups.

There was a book about this, The 480, written by Eugene Burdick (he was one of the co-writers of the more widely known political thriller Fail Safe) way back in 1964. That is, it was published in 1964. Obviously, it was written before that:

The plot evolves around the political turmoil after John F. Kennedy assassination in 1963. In the novel, a fictitious charismatic character, John Thosta, an engineer, is seeking nomination for the Republican Party candidate at 1964 presidential elections. A handful of political professionals are promoting his nomination, in confrontation with the Party establishment.

The novel criticizes the socio-political effects on society at large from the use of computers to run massive simulations, which predict the public reaction to certain (proposed) political moves before implementing them. Such simulations make it easy to manipulate the public consciousness.

The "480" in the title denotes the number of groups (by party affiliation, socioeconomic status, location, origin, etc.) that the computer simulation uses to classify the American electorate. The full list of these is reproduced in the Appendix, claimed by the author to be the true list used by the Simulmatics Corporation (real name) in Senator John F. Kennedy's Presidential campaign in 1960. The cover features an IBM 5081 punched card.

The 480 has been cited as prefiguring the effect of modern social media and data gathering on politics.

So yes, the Simulmatics Corporation was an actual company that was hired by the 1960 Kennedy campaign to help their candidate get more votes. A new book has just come out about this, If Then: How the Simulmatics Corporation Invented the Future by Jill Lepore, is a history of the company behind all of this, the Simulmatics Corporation,

...launched during the Cold War, [which] mined data, targeted voters, manipulated consumers, destabilized politics, and disordered knowledge―decades before Facebook, Google, and Cambridge Analytica. Jill Lepore, best-selling author of These Truths, came across the company’s papers in MIT’s archives and set out to tell this forgotten history, the long-lost backstory to the methods, and the arrogance, of Silicon Valley.

The rest of the Amazon blurb is much more informative. If Then was published in September, but only in hardback. The Kindle page says the ebook version is not yet available.

I think this is a story that should be more widely known. I would like to live to see the day when commercial and political interests do not try to manipulate my perceptions for votes or profit. Come to think of it, isn't that what advertising basically is? Best I can do is ignore it. Be nice if it were discarded because it doesn't work, but unfortunately, it works all too well.

The classic text on advertising, of course, is The Hidden Persuaders by Vance Packard, first published in 1957, which is still in print, and is even available on Kindle:

A classic examination of how our thoughts and feelings are manipulated by business, media and politicians, The Hidden Persuaders was the first book to expose the hidden world of “motivation research,” the psychological technique that advertisers use to probe our minds in order to control our actions as consumers. Through analysis of products, political campaigns and television programs of the 1950s, Packard shows how the insidious manipulation practices that have come to dominate today’s corporate-driven world began. Featuring an introduction by Mark Crispin Miller, The Hidden Persuaders has sold over one million copies, and forever changed the way we look at the world of advertising.

Packard, who passed in 1996, sounds like a prophet. He wrote a number of other books, among them The Waste Makers, which criticizes planned obsolescence, The Naked Society, about the threats to privacy posed by advertisers' unfettered use of private information to create marketing schemes, and Our Endangered Children: Growing Up in a Changing World, which warns that our preoccupation with money, power, status, and sex ignores the needs of future generations.

And getting back to Eugene Burdick, The 480 has been OOP for years. Most used copies you can find online are prohibitively expensive.

Who Dis:

(Last week's 'who dis' was Olivia De Havilland's li'l sis, Joan Fontaine.

Books By Morons

Like to drink? Has the covid panic driven you to drink? If so, you might be interested in moron author Fritz Schrank's book of drink recipes, Quarantinis: Easy and Fun Cocktails for When You're Stuck at Home:

Being stuck at home during the pandemic didn't mean the fun was over. Based on a popular Facebook series that began when COVID-19 restrictions went into effect, this ebook gives you over sixty-five tasty cocktail recipe for at-home creation, complete with photos of each drink. All of these cocktails can be easily made with an affordable liquor collection that will not overwhelm you. The book also Includes recipes for bitters and syrups you can make at home, as well as handy guidance about fruits, garnishes, flavoring agents, ice options, and glassware.

If you use a Kindle app for your phone, tablet, or computer, the drink photos will be in color. Kindle readers still only show b/w images, which is not as good. But for $3.99, it's no big deal.

Like golf? Like to read books about golf? Like to drink while playing golf? If so, Fritz has another book for you. He has been writing a weekly golf column for The Cape Gazette, a major newspaper in southern Delaware, since 1999. Hole By Hole: Golf Stories from Delaware's Cape Region and Beyond, is a collection of some of his best pieces, covering many golf topics with lots of local flavor. Also available in paperback.

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Moron Recommendations

MP⁴ is reading what sounds like an interesting book, A Place for Everything: The Curious History of Alphabetical Order by Judith Flanders, which is

...the first-ever history of alphabetization, from the Library of Alexandria to Wikipedia. The story of alphabetical order has been shaped by some of history's most compelling characters, such as industrious and enthusiastic early adopter Samuel Pepys and dedicated alphabet champion Denis Diderot. But though even George Washington was a proponent, many others stuck to older forms of classification -- Yale listed its students by their family's social status until 1886. And yet, while the order of the alphabet now rules -- libraries, phone books, reference books, even the order of entry for the teams at the Olympic Games -- it has remained curiously invisible.

I didn't think the order of the alphabet was controversial. I just assumed it... wasn't. The Amazon sample text for this book is generous. Ms. Flanders is also the author of The Making of Home: The 500-Year Story of How Our Houses Became Our Homes and also The Victorian City: Everyday Life in Dickens' London as well as some mystery novels.

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One of my Halloween recommendations was A Night in the Lonesome October by Roger Zelazny. Takes place in Victorian London and told from the persective of Snuff, a dog owned by "Jack" who is obviously Jack the Ripper. Various personages, some human, some not, are collecting body parts and other artifacts for a magic ceremony to open an inter-dimensional door to bring in Lovecraft's Elder Gods -- while others are trying to make sure the door stays closed. I'm a big Zelazny fan, so I had to move it to the top of my TBS stack. It's a fun mixture of all sorts of characters, both real and fictional, and tropes from different genres, but it all works. I've read a lot of Zelazny and he has never disappointed me.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM

Comments

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1 Ahoy book faggots!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

2 Hi. Not wearing pants.

To the content.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:01 AM (7X3UV)

3
g'mornin', book-ish 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 08, 2020 09:01 AM (k8Sei)

4
first

Posted by: RetiredBALProgrammer at November 08, 2020 09:01 AM (x4NQT)

5 Has anyone ever been first, and said "N**d"?

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:01 AM (7X3UV)

6 Even if it's these pants, which I suppose are great if you want to noodle around at a friend's barbecue.
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Shoyu weenie flavor!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

7 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:01 AM (arJlL)

8 Browser is slow for some reason
Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2020 09:03 AM (9sWOw)

9 Who Dis? Lisa Simpson, voiced by Yeardly Smith

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 08, 2020 09:03 AM (PiwSw)

10 Don't drag! Dip!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 08, 2020 09:03 AM (6FeV1)

11 Now to the content....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 08, 2020 09:04 AM (PiwSw)

12 Who dis is Joan Collins.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:04 AM (7X3UV)

13 I'm read some uplifting zombie apocalypse book to cheer me up.//

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:05 AM (UUBmN)

14 Wow, that library, all that white...turn loose a 3yo w/a piece of chocolate and you'll be cleaning 100 years.

Posted by: BignJames at November 08, 2020 09:05 AM (AwYPR)

15 Books! Um...

Posted by: Stevie Wonder at November 08, 2020 09:05 AM (adO8x)

16 Reading...gah!

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:05 AM (UUBmN)

17 Anybody read The Moviegoer by Walker Percy? I read it a long time ago when I wasn't mentally equipped to appreciate a character like Binx Bolling but now that I'm older and more jaded I'm loving every page of it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 09:06 AM (y7DUB)

18 Reading...gah!
Posted by: lin-duh

gah ?

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:06 AM (arJlL)

19 I keep waking at 3 or 4 in the morning and can't get back to sleep for some odd reason...

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:07 AM (UUBmN)

20 Odd thing happened the other day, ebook ( Bernard CornwelI's Sharpen's Trafalgar) bought months ago from Amazon wouldn't load no matter what or how many times I tried out of the blue thought I would look at it again and it was there!
Still working on Peter Wilson's The Thirty Years War, 500 pages down, 350 to go.

I only read 1 book at a time

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2020 09:08 AM (9sWOw)

21 booken morgen horden

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:08 AM (nUhF0)

22 Happy Birfday vmom!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 08, 2020 09:08 AM (PiwSw)

23 that library is breathtaking

I think I want to be a monk btw

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:09 AM (nUhF0)

24 booken morgen horden
Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP!

Hiya Morgan !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:09 AM (arJlL)

25 Happy Birthday vmom !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:09 AM (arJlL)

26 My reading this week has been odd. Of course, the election has been an issue, as has the new pup. But aside from that, the Great Unpacking continues, and I've been looking at books, just a bit at a time. E.g., there was one, China's Response to the West, which is selected readings from Chinese sources, 18th to early 20th C.

And it was frustrating. There was one where a Mandarin was writing of how China should deal with Western seapower. The editors kindly left out the part where he discusses Western warships. Thanks a lot.

And a lot of quick passages from the usual suspects, like GKC.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:09 AM (7X3UV)

27 Coffee, good content, smell of bacon from the kitchen. All in all a rather pleasant Sunday.

On a sad note, I went to the store yesterday and when i got home I discovered my front door cracked open. Fearing the worst, I discovered all of my firearms and ammuntion missing. Terrible.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at November 08, 2020 09:09 AM (jvt6t)

28 From the most important book;

"For the LORD is righteous, he loves justice; upright men will see his face. "

Posted by: Marcus T at November 08, 2020 09:10 AM (zruA2)

29 that library is breathtaking

I think I want to be a monk btw
Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP!

THAT would liven up the monastery !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:10 AM (arJlL)

30 Happy birthday, vmom; remember what it felt like four years ago? Don't give up hope!

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 09:10 AM (y7DUB)

31 20 always had goal to finish by Thanksgiving so should still be on track.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2020 09:11 AM (9sWOw)

32 I've gone wandering in my reading this week - I was working on a chapter of the current WIP set in WWII-era Brisbane ... and remembered a Nevil Schute book set in post-war Australia and England: The Far Country. Got it off the shelves for a re-read - the author was really dragged down by conditions in post-war England, it seems. Grey, dreary, depressing, poor, and rationed everything. In contrast, Australia seemed bright, generous, wealthy. He also got some slams in against the National Health Service, which must go very much against the current British zeitgeist. They did a miniseries of it with Michael York about twenty years ago, which - go figure - can't be found anywhere, now.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at November 08, 2020 09:11 AM (xnmPy)

33 Books? Meh....

Posted by: David Crosby at November 08, 2020 09:11 AM (GXJI0)

34 17 Anybody read The Moviegoer by Walker Percy? I read it a long time ago when I wasn't mentally equipped to appreciate a character like Binx Bolling but now that I'm older and more jaded I'm loving every page of it.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 09:06 AM (y7DUB)
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My wife loves it, and keeps urging me to read it. After we get unpacked, I think I will. But in all honesty, I'm not that keen on most Southern authors. (Or Russians, I confess.)

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:11 AM (7X3UV)

35 those pans look fun
I bet KTY would like them

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:12 AM (nUhF0)

36 13 I'm read some uplifting zombie apocalypse book to cheer me up.//
Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:05 AM (UUBmN)
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I too find them oddly uplifting. I guess because adversity separates the wheat from the chaff, and those with practical skills survive.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:12 AM (Dc2NZ)

37 Marcus T,
True! The most important book should be continuous read on a daily basis.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:12 AM (UUBmN)

38 I have experienced "drag the pudding." Two weeks before Christmas, and I had just upgraded to a nice apartment from room-and-boarding with a family. I had worked there for 18months, quite successfully. The execs were having cash flow problems. They said. (Not enough cash flowing into their own pockets.)

I have worked in libraries, university libraries. Poured concrete and acoustical tiles. That monastery library is beautiful.

Posted by: Flyover at November 08, 2020 09:12 AM (Rbu5d)

39 laid off just before Christmas is common in IT
happened to my neighbor

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:13 AM (nUhF0)

40 WOW, that is some baroque library.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2020 09:13 AM (zr5Kq)

41 I'm currently reading Orange is the New Black by whatshername....

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:14 AM (arJlL)

42
I too find them oddly uplifting. I guess because adversity separates the wheat from the chaff, and those with practical skills survive.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen
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True. Hard times bring out true character in people.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:15 AM (UUBmN)

43 Repost from ONT last night:

If you could beat the shit out of any fictional character, which one would it be?

My choice was Holden Caulfield.

The acknowledged thread winner: Joe Biden voters.

Your pick?

This week's reading for me: all of Jerry Pournelle's Falkenberg's Legion/CoDominium stories. I bought the full set when there was a Kindle deal several years ago, and those are always worth revisiting in troubled times.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2020 09:15 AM (VikfB)

44 WOW, that is some baroque library.
Posted by: runner

If it ain't baroque, don't fix it !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:15 AM (arJlL)

45 Anybody read The Moviegoer by Walker Percy? I read it a long time ago when I wasn't mentally equipped to appreciate a character like Binx Bolling but now that I'm older and more jaded I'm loving every page of it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 09:06 AM (y7DUB)

Not that one, but Mrs. Muse read another one of Percy's, The Thanatos Syndrome, about manipulating the population with drugs, without knowledge or consent. She said it was a good novel, but very disturbing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 09:15 AM (mjBut)

46 "37 Marcus T,
True! The most important book should be continuous read on a daily basis.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:12 AM (UUBmN)"

Praying for understanding today. What keeps coming back is the LORD has to keep finding new and creative ways to bring us back to him.

Never despair. Have faith. It will carry you through everything.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 08, 2020 09:16 AM (zruA2)

47 44 WOW, that is some baroque library.
Posted by: runner

If it ain't baroque, don't fix it !
Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:15 AM (arJlL)

If it's baroque, then it needs some Monet!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 09:16 AM (mjBut)

48 Good Sunday morning, horde!

I'm probably in good company when I say I didn't read much this week.

I've read a couple of chapters of Between Silk and Cyanide, by Leo Marks--he was a code breaker and maker for England in WWII. Of course, it was recommended by one of you Morons.

He's quite witty, and I'm really enjoying it, when I can focus.

Posted by: April at November 08, 2020 09:16 AM (OX9vb)

49 >Has this ever happened to you? In my career, I was laid off many times, but never at Christmas. I've known some people who have, though, and I can't help asking, "what kind of a-hole company does this?"

Kinder Morgan
I got laid off 3 days after Christmas 2012
pretty close

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 08, 2020 09:17 AM (iTXRQ)

50 Nice Lieberry!

Those pants, those are my kinda pants.

The Who Dis is an example of how dumbed down our country has become. 8 year olds.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 08, 2020 09:17 AM (R/m4+)

51 Fans of the Dresden files, I thought Battle Ground was really good

there is a heartbreaking loss but a good end of arc
obvious set up for next big arc
and a bonus epilogue short story

one chapter dealing with mayhem in Chicago could easily describebthe real day riots btw

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:17 AM (nUhF0)

52 The last couple of weeks I've been reading Gen. Grant's Memoir. I still haven't gotten to the main battle at Vicksburg, but I am so impressed by 1) how complex a procedure it was to avoid a frontal attack (which would have failed very quickly), and 2) how Grant is willing to try just about anything, and also admit his mistakes. I also like the way he quietly took advantage of a time when communication with the General-in-Chief (Halleck) in Washington would have been too difficult, and Halleck probably would have nixed Grant's plans. My admiration for Grant grows with each chapter.
Was there any serious criticism of Grant's book, or questions about his decisions as recorded therein?

Posted by: Alifa at November 08, 2020 09:17 AM (/iCGm)

53 WOW, that is some baroque library.
Posted by: runner

If it ain't baroque, don't fix it !
Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:15 AM (arJlL)

If it's baroque, then it needs some Monet!
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 09:16 AM (mjBut)

This will Turner things around for sure !

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2020 09:18 AM (zr5Kq)

54 That last pic, I've got a nit to pick -- The traditional form is 3 wolves and 1 sheep voting on dinner.

I'm a purist. But the book title is quite amusing.

Yesterday, I had a small argument with a 7 foot gator about whether I could play my golf ball or not. I won the argument, but struck the ball poorly as he had his eye on me the whole time from about 10 feet away in the water.

Southern golf -- not for the faint hearted.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 08, 2020 09:18 AM (F0YaR)

55 If it ain't baroque, don't fix it.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 08, 2020 09:19 AM (zruA2)

56 I've known some people who have, though, and I can't help asking, "what kind of a-hole company does this?"

AT&T

Ask me how I know!

Posted by: LaughingOutLoud! at November 08, 2020 09:19 AM (jfpNK)

57 And my books are always bouncing
And my bookroom always full
And everybody reads and reads again.
If your name is on the guest list
No one can take you higher
Everyone says I've got great books of fire!

Posted by: Bon Scott at November 08, 2020 09:19 AM (adO8x)

58 Any Morons working the IT support desk today? I have a question.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 08, 2020 09:20 AM (7Fj9P)

59
In my career, I was laid off many times, but never at Christmas. I've known some people who have, though, and I can't help asking, "what kind of a-hole company does this?"

__________

November and December are turkey season for corporations.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2020 09:21 AM (mht8P)

60 My wife loves it, and keeps urging me to read it. After we get unpacked, I think I will. But in all honesty, I'm not that keen on most Southern authors. (Or Russians, I confess.)
Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:11 AM (7X3UV)

It may not be for you because it is very Southern in terms of weird family obligations and understated oddly conducted spats and loaded with a rooski existential vibe. If you try it you should know pretty quickly if it works for you or not.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 09:21 AM (y7DUB)

61 The 480 is available at Audible as well, free with trial. They also have paperback versions for $110.

Posted by: next in line at November 08, 2020 09:21 AM (+UHbe)

62 Another book - not exactly reading - I'm hitting is The Sports Encyclopedia - Baseball. At night, I'll open it and look at the teams. (It lists everything by team, with only brief inserts for players' careers.) Two things I've taken to:

1. Look at a last place team. Then decide if they could have contended if their players were in their primes, instead of very old or very young. Of course many have rosters of nobodies, but some do not. The obvious examples are the 1915 Athletics and the 1966 Yankees. Given that they were in the WS in 1914 and 1964, respectively, the answer is obviously yes.

The A's did lose Eddie Collins, but replaced him with Nap Lajoie. Who was, unfortunately for the, 40 years old. But put him at the level of a decade earlier, and you have a HOFer. The Yanks were down across the board.

2. Try to reconstruct the lineup from the stats. You look at the ratio of runs/rbi, with an eye on games played. That can tell you who bats where, at least in slots 1-5. Works if
(a) They use a regular lineup or a set platoon,
(b) They score a reasonable number of runs. Dead ball and bad teams are tough; good teams in 1930 or 1998 are easier.

Don't even try if Casey Stengel is the manager. Mickey bats 3rd, and Yogi 4th. That is all you know, and all you need to know.

(Put a little real lit in there at the end.)

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:21 AM (7X3UV)

63 I read AtC's Twitter feed even though I don't have an account. Does anyone know what the upside down pink/red triangle she posted as a response(?) to someone else's comments means? I don't understand, I'm not Twitter/meme fluent...

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:21 AM (UUBmN)

64 Judging solely from Admont Abbey's simple and unadorned exterior, who could have guessed that such opulent splendor awaits within?https://tinyurl.com/y6gu7lrd

Posted by: Clayton in Mississippi at November 08, 2020 09:21 AM (GHMRO)

65 Take this here feather duster down to those double doors and work your way back. I'll check up on you around lunch time.

Posted by: klaftern at November 08, 2020 09:22 AM (RuIsu)

66 THAT would liven up the monastery !
Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:10 AM (arJlL)

I'll have you know that I am excessively demure and well-mannered!

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:22 AM (nUhF0)

67 Went to the Triple Goddess Bookstore in Lansing on a lark, and it was just as you might imagine (smelled of nag champa and smug) but I ended up kind of loving it. It's three shops under one roof: New Age (tarot cards, candles, incense), used books, and a comics area. The proprietors were very friendly.

Listened to people discussing how Biden will prevail over Trump's attempt to steal the election.

I bought a copy of The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe illustrated by Michael Hague, one of my favorites (his Wind in the Willows version is extraordinary).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:22 AM (Dc2NZ)

68 I keep waking at 3 or 4 in the morning and can't get back to sleep for some odd reason...
Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:07 AM (UUBmN)
**********
Good to know I'm not the only one.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 09:23 AM (+YYKs)

69
WOW, that is some baroque library.
Posted by: runner

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I'm boggled (especially after clicking the link) that it's "monastic." Bring me them robes!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 08, 2020 09:23 AM (SFAhl)

70
And my books are always bouncing
And my bookroom always full
And everybody reads and reads again.
If your name is on the guest list
No one can take you higher
Everyone says I've got great books of fire!

Posted by: Bon Scott at November 08, 2020 09:19 AM

well played

golf clap

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 08, 2020 09:23 AM (k8Sei)

71 Hogmartin audibly horked at seeing Stacy Abrams' book prominently displayed.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:23 AM (Dc2NZ)

72 Bad strategy: Just Thoreau Monet at it.

Posted by: db at November 08, 2020 09:24 AM (E0PSG)

73 On a sad note, I went to the store yesterday and when i got home I discovered my front door cracked open. Fearing the worst, I discovered all of my firearms and ammuntion missing. Terrible.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at November 08, 2020 09:09 AM (jvt6t)

Truly, Jak? That is terrible.

Posted by: April at November 08, 2020 09:24 AM (OX9vb)

74 I read Eifelheim by Michael Flynn, which was recommended here a few weeks ago. This interesting story is about the village of Oberhochwald, later known as Eifelheim, located in The Black Forest of Germany. In 1348 on a clear day, a large thunder and flash occurs in the forest outside the village. Aliens have crashed. A year later the plague decimates the village and a few escape, never to return.

Flash to the present, and Tom, a cliologist (a scientific historian), helped by his girlfriend, Sharon, a theoretical physicist, and a librarian researcher, Judy, try to determine why the village was never repopulated as others were. The story is intriguing, but what makes the book great are all of the musings...philosophical, religious, and scientific; both human and alien.

Posted by: Zoltan at November 08, 2020 09:24 AM (qb8uZ)

75 60 My wife loves it, and keeps urging me to read it. After we get unpacked, I think I will. But in all honesty, I'm not that keen on most Southern authors. (Or Russians, I confess.)
Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:11 AM (7X3UV)

It may not be for you because it is very Southern in terms of weird family obligations and understated oddly conducted spats and loaded with a rooski existential vibe. If you try it you should know pretty quickly if it works for you or not.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 09:21 AM (y7DUB)
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You put your finger on the likely problem. That started at the idea level, strictly. But it's grown deep roots. I have a deep hatred of all things existential. OTOH, I often like Tennessee Williams.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:25 AM (7X3UV)

76 Good morning, horde,

I feel kind of crappy today. Couldn't sleep last night and was staring at the click at 2am.

I really appreciate this thread, even though spent $200 on books last month because the book recommendations got to me. Again. I will not buy another book until I'm done with Chernov's Hamilton and Churchill's A History of the English-speaking Peoples.

I also appreciate that, despite our overt political views, we can talk food and books and pets and gardens without politics.

This morning I logged onto a special-interest site where the general tone is encouraging. I've been a member since its inception. The top rules have always been "no personal attacks" and "no politics."

Another regular prefaced her on-topic post with "Firstly, to all of you Americans (inserted "thanks" emoji) can't talk about politics here so I won't say anymore."

Oh, subtle. I can imagine how she'd react if anyone posted a "congrats" emoji after Brexit.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 08, 2020 09:25 AM (/+bwe)

77 Walker Percy's great. He and Tom McHale fought a literary and spiritual rear guard action against American Catholicism's absorption into relativism, heresy and decadence. They lost, but they were funny, perhaps noble, and maybe even tragic.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 08, 2020 09:25 AM (evxBY)

78 > The last couple of weeks I've been reading Gen. Grant's Memoir.

My favorite part of that is where he gets put in charge of the mule teams. Shady dealers sold the Army a bunch of unbroken mules. In combination with that, many of the soldiers who claimed to be "teamsters" were...not (Why? Because teamsters got to ride on a wagon rather than humping a ruck on foot, of course).

They'd get a half dozen or so men with nooses around the mule's neck, hook it to a wagon, put the "teamster" on board, then turn loose of the ropes. Hilarity ensued.

Also: most of the mules settled down after a while, but there was one that was the bane of Grant's existence. He discovered that he was not allowed to exchange mules, but would be given a new one if one of the mules ran away. His description of how the mule was encouraged to "run away" is classic dry American humor.

Of course, it is also an invaluable historical record of Grant's experiences, but it's always nice when a little humor can be injected, especially on a topic as grim as Civil War I.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2020 09:25 AM (VikfB)

79 I keep waking at 3 or 4 in the morning and can't get back to sleep for some odd reason...
Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:07 AM (UUBmN)
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Good to know I'm not the only one.
Posted by: redridinghood
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I also have this odd tension and soreness in my neck and shoulders. It just burns constantly. I wonder what could be causing this...hmmmmm.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:26 AM (UUBmN)

80 re: the Ladies' Reading Room picture:

"Well, Helloooo Ladies - a limerick

There once was a young man named Darien
Who had a desire to be marryin'
He started to smile
A bibliophile!!
In a room full of lovely librarians!

Posted by: Muldoon at November 08, 2020 09:27 AM (Fc5rx)

81 speaking of the most important book, the readings today are on the nose:

WISDOM 6:12-16

1 THESSALONIANS 4:13-18

MATTHEW 25:1-13

Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:27 AM (nUhF0)

82 Yikes, Jak. What a terrible time for that to happen, as if there were ever a good time.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 08, 2020 09:27 AM (VikfB)

83 63 I read AtC's Twitter feed even though I don't have an account. Does anyone know what the upside down pink/red triangle she posted as a response(?) to someone else's comments means? I don't understand, I'm not Twitter/meme fluent...
Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:21 AM (UUBmN)
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In Nazi Germany, homosexual prisoners had pink triangles sewn on their uniforms as badges of shame. It's been coopted as a symbol of pride by the LGBT community.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:27 AM (Dc2NZ)

84
I also have this odd tension and soreness in my neck and shoulders. It just burns constantly. I wonder what could be causing this...hmmmmm.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:26 AM

me, too

woke up Wednesday morning like that

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 08, 2020 09:28 AM (k8Sei)

85 Does anyone know what the upside down pink/red triangle she posted as a response(?) to someone else's comments means? I don't understand, I'm not Twitter/meme fluent...
Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:21 AM (UUBmN)

I think the pink triangle is how the Nazis labeled homosexuals.

Posted by: April at November 08, 2020 09:28 AM (OX9vb)

86 I've been reading the story of Joseph, who was betrayed by his brothers and sold into slavery and then falsely accused of rape and sent to prison. But he ends up saving his nation from ruin.

The moral of the story:

(To his brothers). "And as for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good in order to bring about this present result, to preserve many people alive."

This is why I remain hopeful when unfair things happen.

Posted by: Emmie at November 08, 2020 09:28 AM (4JM5Y)

87 Happy Birthday, vmom.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 09:28 AM (+YYKs)

88 Fair Lady Robin just finished reading aloud* to me "News of the World", by Paulette Giles. I can't tell you how well written, and satisfying that book is. It's the story about a Civil War vet. who is paid to escort an 8 y/o child to S. Texas. She had been abducted by Comanche, and he is to reunite with her remaining family. The story could not have been better told.
Now we come to find out Tom Hanks destroyed the story in his new movie of the same name. Def. worth the read.
*We're weird like that.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 08, 2020 09:29 AM (7Fj9P)

89 Not a big reader, but I always enjoy the library pick on the Book Thread.

Thank you!

Posted by: Bruce at November 08, 2020 09:29 AM (vd8XM)

90 Does long underwear count as pants? Hey, at least my skin is covered.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at November 08, 2020 09:29 AM (uxUoN)

91 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading. It's been needed.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 09:29 AM (7EjX1)

92 Ooops....Library picture

Posted by: Bruce at November 08, 2020 09:29 AM (vd8XM)

93 74
Zoltan, Eifelheim is a really good read.
I feel like the framing midern day story cpuld have been done away with

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:30 AM (nUhF0)

94 Yes, News of the World was the best new novel I have read since A Gentleman in Moscow.

Posted by: skywch at November 08, 2020 09:31 AM (Y/Ps0)

95 I keep waking at 3 or 4 in the morning and can't get back to sleep for some odd reason...

I do some of my best coding when I wake up very early and can't get back to sleep. And it usually puts me into a creative space that relieves the tension from whatever was keeping me awake.

Last couple of times have involved a script to reverse selected portions of audio files to reveal backmasking, and another to layer piped text over an image to create a meme.

I didn't say they were useful, just interesting problems.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 08, 2020 09:31 AM (2lndx)

96 84
I also have this odd tension and soreness in my neck and shoulders. It just burns constantly. I wonder what could be causing this...hmmmmm.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:26 AM

me, too

woke up Wednesday morning like that
Posted by: AltonJackson at November 08, 2020 09:28 AM (k8Sei)
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Me too. I think it's because I've been hunched over a computer for the last couple weeks, peering at a screen.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:31 AM (Dc2NZ)

97 In Nazi Germany, homosexual prisoners had pink triangles sewn on their uniforms as badges of shame. It's been coopted as a symbol of pride by the LGBT community.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen
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Thanks Eric. I git that part but don't understand the context she's using it as/in I guess because it doesn't make sense connected to the comments she's replying to...at least to me.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:31 AM (UUBmN)

98 Posted by: Alifa at November 08, 2020 09:17 AM (/iCGm)

It is generally considered the greatest presidential memoir of all time. Grant was a monumental figure. He is nothing today and that is a shame. One interesting factoid about Grant, he was seen in person by more people than any American who ever lived. At least that was the case back in the day. Who knows, maybe some washed up rock star can claim otherwise. But Grant toured the US and also Europe and the East. The crowds came out of him. He was a towering figure.

Grant was a man and had the pros and cons all men have. He was not perfect for sure, but he was the right man for the job. The only criticisms I know about Grant that stick are that he played favorites. If you were a Sheridan or Sherman, Grant would help you and laud you. If you were a Thomas or Don Carlos Buell, you would get little recognition or support.

As for the frontal assault thing. Grant in the West went up against inferior opponents. No one who went to West Point would ever want to order a frontal assault if they could help it. But Grant ended up in many frontal assaults against Bobby Lee. The problem is what you design can be changed by an active opponent.

A historian I think highly of named Gary Gallagher once commented on how Grant became to be known as a butcher in the Northern press. Grant was a brilliant tactician when he served in the Western Theater. He only became a butcher when he went up against R.E. Lee. Lee's army also paid a heavy price. You don't go up against Lee without a lot of bloodshed.

Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 09:32 AM (mbITn)

99 I also have this odd tension and soreness in my neck and shoulders. It just burns constantly. I wonder what could be causing this...hmmmmm.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:26 AM (UUBmN)
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Yep. I smell like Biofreeze.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 09:32 AM (+YYKs)

100 That monastery library is magnificent. I especially like the idea of bright reflective colors to light it. Considering the danger of fire when it was established, they chose wisely.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 09:33 AM (7EjX1)

101 Happy Birthday vmom!

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:33 AM (UUBmN)

102 lin-duh That has been happening to me, while I might throw in a comment on the ONT I have mostly been reading my book. It helps me tot to start my brain swirling around the country's problems I can do anything about anyway.
And not having internet a evening was another big jump in reading.

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2020 09:34 AM (9sWOw)

103 I've decided to become an ostrich and put my head in the sand until someone concedes. So, I have another opportunity to do nothing but read books and do projects!

I'm currently reading Will Jordon thriller novel. It is really a time filler as I'm waiting for a book to come out on 17 NOV. That book is Brandon Sanderson's 4th book in The Stormlight Archives. Pretty excited.

Posted by: Rob at November 08, 2020 09:34 AM (5K+Jd)

104 Light from a computer screen isn't good for sleeping

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2020 09:35 AM (9sWOw)

105 The illustration of the girls in the library is lovely and amusing. Aside from the young women, the details of the room are great. Then there's the humor of the guy listening in.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 09:36 AM (7EjX1)

106 I just finished Victor Davis Hanson's World Wars book, and it was a phenomenal overview of how people and technological issues played out over the war. Of course, it also put the conflicts into a classical context as well.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 08, 2020 09:36 AM (2lndx)

107 I keep waking at 3 or 4 in the morning and can't get back to sleep for some odd reason...
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Me too. FWIW, I started taking 1/2 of a 5 mg Diazepam in the middle of the night.
Seems to help.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 08, 2020 09:36 AM (7Fj9P)

108 Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:21 AM (UUBmN)

I think that was the symbol gays were made to were by the Nazis in the camps

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:37 AM (nUhF0)

109 Posted by: Alifa at November 08, 2020 09:17 AM (/iCGm)

I appreciated Grant's discussion of Mexico's economic system under Spain. It explained some of the problems they have even today.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 08, 2020 09:37 AM (uquGJ)

110 Thanks Eric. I git that part but don't understand the context she's using it as/in I guess because it doesn't make sense connected to the comments she's replying to...at least to me.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:31 AM (UUBmN)

In the instances I've seen her use it, it is in response to some leftist's threats of tyranny. She's essentially using the symbol to equate the original poster with Nazis.

Posted by: April at November 08, 2020 09:37 AM (OX9vb)

111 Light from a computer screen isn't good for sleeping
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I mainly use my iPad that lets you put it in night mode which is supposed to filter the blue light that affects sleep... at least that my understanding of it.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:37 AM (UUBmN)

112 Good morning, Horde. That library is amazing. Western civilization has produced so many beautiful works of art and architecture. I'm still reading Sexual Personae by Camille Paglia, which is turning out to be an interesting little art history course for me. Given my glacial pace of reading these days, a few more book threads will probably pass before I'm done, but so far it's been worth the time invested.

Posted by: PabloD isn't in a reconciliatory mood at November 08, 2020 09:38 AM (T2IeR)

113 Thanks Eric. I git that part but don't understand the context she's using it as/in I guess because it doesn't make sense connected to the comments she's replying to...at least to me.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:31 AM (UUBmN)
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She has stated many times that in their eyes, queer conservatives simply don't exist.

Socialists, whether national or international, are not friends of gay/lesbian people.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:38 AM (Dc2NZ)

114 My understanding about Grant's butcher's bill against Lee is that what he got out of it was always ending in a better strategic position than at start. I do know J F C Fuller thought Grant the better of the two.

But supposedly Sheridan, a witness to Sadowa, told Moltke afterwards that Lee would have destroyed his army in a few hours.

But it's not my area, so a big chunk of salt is required.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:38 AM (7X3UV)

115 104
Light from a computer screen isn't good for sleeping

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2020 09:35 AM (9sWOw)

Turn the screen off when you go to bed. You're welcome.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 08, 2020 09:38 AM (IbxQb)

116 IT question:
In Windows 10, how do you initialize a back-up to an external hard drive?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 08, 2020 09:38 AM (7Fj9P)

117 My guess is that AtC is pointing out to the lefties calling for healing (and not resisting their theft) that they are the ones making lists of who will go to the camps. Just like Hitler.

And she's right. Leftists are all about eliminating inconvenient people.

Posted by: Emmie at November 08, 2020 09:39 AM (4JM5Y)

118 In the instances I've seen her use it, it is in response to some leftist's threats of tyranny. She's essentially using the symbol to equate the original poster with Nazis.
Posted by: April
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Ok, that makes sense. Thanks April!

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:39 AM (UUBmN)

119 105 The illustration of the girls in the library is lovely and amusing. Aside from the young women, the details of the room are great. Then there's the humor of the guy listening in.
Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 09:36 AM (7EjX1)
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I thought that was an older lady, a governess or school marm.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:39 AM (Dc2NZ)

120 She has stated many times that in their eyes, queer conservatives simply don't exist.

Socialists, whether national or international, are not friends of gay/lesbian people.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:38 AM (Dc2NZ)

That was a much better explanation than mine.

Posted by: April at November 08, 2020 09:40 AM (OX9vb)

121 116
IT question:

In Windows 10, how do you initialize a back-up to an external hard drive?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 08, 2020 09:38 AM (7Fj9P)

Control Panel > System and Maintenance > Backup and Restore.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 08, 2020 09:40 AM (IbxQb)

122 106 I just finished Victor Davis Hanson's World Wars book, and it was a phenomenal overview of how people and technological issues played out over the war. Of course, it also put the conflicts into a classical context as well.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 08, 2020 09:36 AM (2lndx)
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Don't rely on the naval parts. That is amateurish. I don't want to rag on VDH, but it's so. He is not up on the serious writing, and is reproducing the pop history line from the 60s.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:41 AM (7X3UV)

123 If anybody likes obscure English words or phrases, like the one above, there's a great calendar called "Forgotten English" by Jeffrey Kacirk.
Every day there's an entry about a word or phrase no longer in use, and what it meant, usually with a quote. It's really well-done

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 09:41 AM (AwPyG)

124 Or just press the Windows key on your keyboard and start typing 'backup'

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 08, 2020 09:41 AM (IbxQb)

125 thank you for the bday wishes, friends!
Iirc it is also Cannibal Bob's and weew's bday

4 years ago we had The Best bday guft ever
Today I hope we get a little bit if a goid news bday gift
If not I hold on to faith for a delayed good bday gift

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:43 AM (nUhF0)

126 Love you bibliophiles!

Time to get ready for church.

Posted by: Emmie at November 08, 2020 09:43 AM (4JM5Y)

127 Leftists are all about eliminating inconvenient people.
Posted by: Emmie at November 08, 2020 09:39 AM (4JM5Y)

Before I retired from IT I used to be perplexed that so many progs were in the field until I realized that they were much happier reducing everything to a binary form.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 09:44 AM (y7DUB)

128 was laid off a couple days before Christmas in 2001.

turned out really great for my career, but still a gut punch to the holiday spirit.

Posted by: matt foley at November 08, 2020 09:44 AM (+fqBB)

129 @121
If it's just for word documents, I plug in my external hard drive, and "save as".
I think a tech person here told us its always a good idea to save important things on an external hard drive, so I do.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 09:44 AM (AwPyG)

130 Good morning all. I downloaded an Agatha Christie that was on sale for $1.99. I thought it might help me to get my head out of the dirt and into reading again. You can see how much of an impact it made. I can't even remember the title.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 08, 2020 09:44 AM (gm3d+)

131 never at Christmas. I've known some people who have, though, and I can't help asking, "what kind of a-hole company does this?"

Hollywood. Advertising. Bunch of us got envalopes at Christmas office party - not a bonus, a "youre fired" letter.

Posted by: Banned at November 08, 2020 09:45 AM (UCqve)

132 I'm about a dozen chapters into "The Man From The Train"....grateful I didn't live in that era.

Posted by: BignJames at November 08, 2020 09:45 AM (AwYPR)

133 Hi grammie!
Glad to "see" you here! Missed you

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:45 AM (nUhF0)

134

I'm seeing headlines that Trump must graciously accept the results or be forcebly removed from office. Remember how the left graciously accepted the results of 2016? Intercourse them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2020 09:45 AM (shRLH)

135 Hollywood. Advertising. Bunch of us got envalopes at Christmas office party - not a bonus, a "youre fired" letter.
Posted by: Banned at November 08, 2020 09:45 AM (UCqve)

Impressive.

Posted by: Ebenezer Scrooge at November 08, 2020 09:46 AM (PiwSw)

136 120 She has stated many times that in their eyes, queer conservatives simply don't exist.

Socialists, whether national or international, are not friends of gay/lesbian people.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:38 AM (Dc2NZ)

That was a much better explanation than mine.
Posted by: April at November 08, 2020 09:40 AM (OX9vb)
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In their eyes, no one outside the Designated Enemy Categories exists. Didn't you see this week that Latinos are White Males. I first encountered this back in the early 80's, when told that Thatcher "was not really a woman." It's now a joke, but it was new to me then.

It is a good way to make everything easy. All evidence that doesn't fit becomes, by definition, not evidence at all. (We see this today with talk about how "baseless" claims of vote fraud are, too.)

What we are seeing is an attack, not just on Western, but on all civilization. And on reason, which is the one distinctive feature of mankind.

Didn't somebody write a book called "The Abolition of Man"? (Stevenson anticipated that, BTW.)

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:46 AM (7X3UV)

137 if not everyone has done this yet, maybe just send a message to the President whitehouse.gov, letting him know we're with him.

Posted by: matt foley at November 08, 2020 09:46 AM (+fqBB)

138 Remember how the left graciously accepted the results of 2016? Intercourse them.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2020 09:45 AM (shRLH)

Remember the comity of the 2000 election?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:46 AM (Dc2NZ)

139 I thought that was an older lady, a governess or school marm.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:39 AM (Dc2NZ)

Me too.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 08, 2020 09:47 AM (R/m4+)

140 Hi grammie!

Glad to "see" you here! Missed you

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 09:45 AM (nUhF0)

Hi vmom! Did I hear that it's your birthday?

Posted by: grammie winger at November 08, 2020 09:47 AM (gm3d+)

141 There have been a few mentions of Nero Wolfe recipes in recent weeks. May I suggest "The Nero Wolfe Cookbook" by Rex Stout. Any Wolfe fans will enjoy the recipes (some are complex) and the book references.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 09:47 AM (7EjX1)

142 Leftists are all about eliminating inconvenient people.
Posted by: Emmie

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There are two ways of achieving consensus.

Voluntary and involuntary.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 08, 2020 09:48 AM (Fc5rx)

143 I'm thinking I need to liquidate portfolio tomorrow and just sit on it until this is over. I believe Trump's perview that a Biden admin means a depression like never before. Anybody here have any thoughts? What about Tech stocks since they are Dem run?

Posted by: Stellastwocents at November 08, 2020 09:48 AM (cRbt7)

144 Windows 10 will amber the screen when it gets late at night, if you set the night light. I know it will work because I would rather sleep than look at a yellow screen.

Kreiger from Archer is supposed to be an Adolph clone, but he looks more like Nicolai Romanov II.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 08, 2020 09:48 AM (LxTcq)

145 134

I'm seeing headlines that Trump must graciously accept the results or be forcebly removed from office. Remember how the left graciously accepted the results of 2016? Intercourse them.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2020 09:45 AM (shRLH)
________

I have every intention of embracing unity just as fervently as they did.

How many synonyms for "intercourse" are there? Printable or not.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:49 AM (7X3UV)

146
I've been reading William Freehling's two volumes Secessionists At Bay and Secessionists Triumphant, a very long and detailed history of the South before the Civil War.

We tend to think of the antebellum South as a monolithic entity, but there were many Souths: a Border South, and Upper South and a Lower South, as well as an Eastern South and a Western South. The tensions among these and their attitudes toward slavery are almost as striking as the conflicts between the North and the South as a whole.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2020 09:49 AM (mht8P)

147 Or just press the Windows key on your keyboard and start typing 'backup'
========================
Yeah, I'm looking in there. There's a slider that says "Automatic backup" On.
I just can't tell where it's backing up to, or how to re-path to my ext. hd. and manually start a backup.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 08, 2020 09:49 AM (7Fj9P)

148 Lots of peeps wanting to talk about "other than books"

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 09:49 AM (AwPyG)

149 I think the older lady is discreetly checking up on the girls, and also thinking back fondly to her own youth.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:50 AM (Dc2NZ)

150 "I was laid off many times, but never at Christmas. I've known some people who have, though, and I can't help asking, 'what kind of a-hole company does this?' "

I left a company (I was underpaid) in 1990. A year and a half later, I was contracting on a project that was using the system my former company built. Some of their service reps, former co-workers of mine, were complaining about the new company policy of charging a monthly fee to the service department for the use of the company cars. The fee was retroactive to the first of the year. And it was withheld from their paychecks on December 15th. Just before Christmas. I was sorry for the employees, but so happy I had left that company.

Posted by: TXNick77 at November 08, 2020 09:50 AM (38Nd0)

151 I finished a time-travel novel, Split Second, by Douglas E. Richards. It was lingering in my kindle library; it must have been a Bookbub freebie. Anyway, I'm a sucker for time travel stories, and this one has an interesting twist: the time machine can only send things or people back in time 45 microseconds. So it's really a duplication machine. I almost gave up on the book early because I found the writing to be clunky. The premise was enough for me to stick with it, and the writing got a bit better as it went along. Not good enough that I will read anything else by this author though.

Posted by: DIY Daddio at November 08, 2020 09:51 AM (RJscS)

152 141 There have been a few mentions of Nero Wolfe recipes in recent weeks. May I suggest "The Nero Wolfe Cookbook" by Rex Stout. Any Wolfe fans will enjoy the recipes (some are complex) and the book references.
Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 09:47 AM (7EjX1)
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Don't have that. We do have the Jane Austen Cookbook, and Lobscouse and Spotted Dog (Patrick O'Brian). The latter has some recipes that can be only described as, well, unappetizing. But some that look good.

One thing that comes through in both is just how much, whenever they could, they put beef and/or bacon in just about everything.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:52 AM (7X3UV)

153 143 I'm thinking I need to liquidate portfolio tomorrow and just sit on it until this is over. I believe Trump's perview that a Biden admin means a depression like never before. Anybody here have any thoughts? What about Tech stocks since they are Dem run?
Posted by: Stellastwocents at November 08, 2020 09:48 AM (cRbt7)

I'm thinking that in the short term (like about a year), things are going to look better because A. the Wuflu will miraculously vanish after Joe takes over and thus, the shutdowns will end and the economy will automatically get better.

That will enable the left to say "See? It was all Trump's fault!" and the public will believe them. Then they'll start lowering the boom.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at November 08, 2020 09:52 AM (HabA/)

154 @32
I remember The Far Country--it was well-done. I'll have to look for the book, I have an Australia son in law and maybe I'll gain some insights

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 09:52 AM (AwPyG)

155 I'm thinking I need to liquidate portfolio tomorrow and just sit on it until this is over.

Posted by: Stellastwocents at November 08, 2020 09:48 AM (cRbt7)

I've thought about this....where do you put your $$ where they can't get their hands on it? under the mattress?

Posted by: BignJames at November 08, 2020 09:52 AM (AwYPR)

156 Oh yeah, books.

SF: The Eleven Million Mile High Dancer by Carol Hill. Just started it. It was on a list of Weirdest Science Fiction Books, and that's enough for me. Sold!

Non Fic: Survival Mom: How to Prepare Your Family for Everyday Disasters and Worst Case Scenarios by Lisa Bedford.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:53 AM (Dc2NZ)

157 Reading Machiavelli's The Discourses. It is fascinating. He supports republics as the best form of government, while conceding that no form of government is perfect.
....
As for dragging the pudding, I've been laid off at Christmas, but fortunately was given a nice severance package.

Posted by: squeakywheel at November 08, 2020 09:53 AM (nOe2q)

158 Heh I'm scheduled to be laid off around Christmas.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 09:54 AM (2DOZq)

159 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 09:50 AM (Dc2NZ)

I thought perhaps she was a servant or governess, but that could be because I missed the title and wasn't sure it wasn't a single family.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 08, 2020 09:54 AM (uquGJ)

160 I'm thinking that in the short term (like about a
year), things are going to look better because A. the Wuflu will
miraculously vanish after Joe takes over and thus, the shutdowns will
end and the economy will automatically get better.

That will enable the left to say "See? It was all Trump's fault!"
and the public will believe them. Then they'll start lowering the boom.

Posted by: DonnaV at November 08, 2020 09:52 AM (HabA/)

Increased taxes and regulations are always good for an economy comrade. The Green (Red) New Deal should do just wonders for the job market.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2020 09:54 AM (shRLH)

161 Posted by: Jak Sucio at November 08, 2020 09:09 AM (jvt6t)

Do you suspect it was the deep state?
Did they get your 9mm AK?

Posted by: db at November 08, 2020 09:54 AM (E0PSG)

162 Adrianne Lecter, The Green Fields series
James Cook, Surviving the Dead series
Joshua Guess, The Fall series

These are some zombie apocalypse series I really enjoy. James Cook and Joshua Guess collaborated on one book so there is a bit or cross over in the two worlds.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:54 AM (UUBmN)

163 I've thought about this....where do you put your $$ where they can't get their hands on it? under the mattress?
Posted by: BignJames at November 08, 2020 09:52 AM (AwYPR)

Ummmmmmmm.....Yes.

Posted by: Ravadem Patel at November 08, 2020 09:55 AM (R/m4+)

164 Posted by: squeakywheel at November 08, 2020 09:53 AM (nOe2q)

My severance package was cut in half when we went into Receivership so I got that going for me.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 09:56 AM (2DOZq)

165

Speaking of red, I've talked to about a half dozen people who have said, WTF happened? I went to bed Tuesday night and Trump was on his way to victory and I woke up on Wednesday and it was gone. The red mirage. The left said they would do it and that's what they are trying to pull off. All of the those illegal ballots showing up in the dead of the night.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2020 09:56 AM (shRLH)

166 THAT would liven up the monastery !
Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:10 AM (arJlL)

I'll have you know that I am excessively demure and well-mannered!
Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP!

Oh.

Then no one would notice !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 09:56 AM (arJlL)

167 I'm thinking I need to liquidate portfolio tomorrow and just sit on it until this is over.
=========================
Donna, I'm not a financial advisor, but this sounds like an over-reaction to me. If you do do this, reserve 1/3 of that cash to pay capital gains taxes.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 08, 2020 09:57 AM (7Fj9P)

168 OM,

Maybe we shouldn't have "quick, let's crash the market" trolls on the book thread. Just a thought.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 09:57 AM (AwPyG)

169 I've thought about this....where do you put your $$ where they can't get their hands on it? under the mattress?
Posted by: BignJames at November 08, 2020 09:52 AM (AwYPR)

You would get about the same interest rate the banks are giving you now.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 09:58 AM (2DOZq)

170 I've been reading William Freehling's two volumes Secessionists At Bay and Secessionists Triumphant, a very long and detailed history of the South before the Civil War.

We tend to think of the antebellum South as a monolithic entity, but
there were many Souths: a Border South, and Upper South and a Lower
South, as well as an Eastern South and a Western South. The tensions
among these and their attitudes toward slavery are almost as striking as
the conflicts between the North and the South as a whole.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2020 09:49 AM (mht8P)

certainly Virginia is the state most associated with the war for many reasons. North Carolina should get its due because they suffered immense casualties. I think when you add things up, NC lost the most, at least per capita.

SC did start is so there is that. But yeah, there were many differences among the states. Virginia didn't join the CSA until other Southern states were threatened by a USA call up of troops to put down the rebellion. West Virginia broke off and Eastern TN was not all that into the effort.

Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 09:58 AM (mbITn)

171 151 I finished a time-travel novel, Split Second, by Douglas E. Richards. It was lingering in my kindle library; it must have been a Bookbub freebie. Anyway, I'm a sucker for time travel stories, and this one has an interesting twist: the time machine can only send things or people back in time 45 microseconds. So it's really a duplication machine. I almost gave up on the book early because I found the writing to be clunky. The premise was enough for me to stick with it, and the writing got a bit better as it went along. Not good enough that I will read anything else by this author though.
Posted by: DIY Daddio at November 08, 2020 09:51 AM (RJscS)
__________

Activate the Omega 13?

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 09:58 AM (7X3UV)

172 Before I retired from IT I used to be perplexed that
so many progs were in the field until I realized that they were much
happier reducing everything to a binary form.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 09:44 AM (y7DUB)

________

I always chalked it up to them being socially and emotionally retarded. They interfaced with peripherals far better than they interacted with other adults.

Posted by: ShainS at November 08, 2020 09:58 AM (WqPYg)

173 Old school investment banks would fire people before Christmas and the give half the expected bonus as severance.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 08, 2020 09:58 AM (9TdxA)

174 We tend to think of the antebellum South as a monolithic entity, but there were many Souths: a Border South, and Upper South and a Lower South, as well as an Eastern South and a Western South.

Bringing this into another context, I think Eeyore put his finger on something in liking Tennessee Williams; namely that New Orleans is its own unique subset of Southern literature and maybe Walker Percy fits in there. Harry Crews' strangest book, at least to me, The Knockout Artist, took place in New Orleans.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 09:59 AM (y7DUB)

175 Has Bernie Sanders weighed in on the left trying to Bernie Sanders President Trump?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 08, 2020 10:00 AM (R/m4+)

176 Okay. I'm willing to reconsider that the person peeking in is a matron of some sort. But given that, I could see a scenario where a minute ago the ladies had snuck a young Lothario in through the window, and when Mrs. McGillicuddy came to investigate the giggles they quickly hid the lad and grabbed a book or assumed an attitude of laid back lassitude. "Ho hum, nothing going on tonight. Oh Good evening Mrs. McGillicuddy!"

It even looks like a couple of them are holding their book upside down.

(Now if I could just work that into limerick form)

Posted by: Muldoon at November 08, 2020 10:00 AM (Fc5rx)

177 I'm a fan of the "Townsends" channel on Youtube. Last week Jon read both "Sleepy Hollow" and "Rip Van Winkle" by Washington Irving. He was reading in front of the hearth in the colonial era cabin he built and the scene was lit only by the fire. It was fun and charming.

Then I realized I hadn't read the stories, ever. Damn! Irving told a great story! The tales are charming, the language (written about 1820) has deadpan humor (reminds me of PG Wodehouse over a century later), delicate phrasing, and is incredibly descriptive of the areas. It was a serious pleasure to read. Now to get started on his other works.

If you haven't read the actual books, I strongly suggest you do.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 10:01 AM (7EjX1)

178 174 We tend to think of the antebellum South as a monolithic entity, but there were many Souths: a Border South, and Upper South and a Lower South, as well as an Eastern South and a Western South.

Bringing this into another context, I think Eeyore put his finger on something in liking Tennessee Williams; namely that New Orleans is its own unique subset of Southern literature and maybe Walker Percy fits in there. Harry Crews' strangest book, at least to me, The Knockout Artist, took place in New Orleans.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 09:59 AM (y7DUB)
_________

Yes, and I did mostly like Confederacy of Dunces, except the pervy bits.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:01 AM (7X3UV)

179 Maybe we shouldn't have "quick, let's crash the market" trolls on the book thread. Just a thought.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 09:57 AM (AwPyG)

feel free to scroll

Posted by: BignJames at November 08, 2020 10:02 AM (AwYPR)

180 Chris Wallace is about to bring Mayor Pete about the transition. Mitt will be on to say that Trump is trying to start a Civil War.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 08, 2020 10:02 AM (9TdxA)

181 This week, I'm reading The Stars Asunder which is one of the "Mage Worlds" books. It's a paper book in honor of my book groups meeting a week from tomorrow. It will be our first face to face meeting in months.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 08, 2020 10:02 AM (qDSku)

182 So what I keep reading outside of here (thank God for this site) is they cheated but let's just move on. I cannot. Sundance has a good article entitled our nation stands on the brink.

Posted by: AnnaS at November 08, 2020 10:02 AM (l4l/z)

183 Yes, and I did mostly like Confederacy of Dunces, except the pervy bits.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:01 AM (7X3UV)

Not a fan of CoD at all.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 10:03 AM (2DOZq)

184 I think the older lady is discreetly checking up on the girls, and also thinking back fondly to her own youth.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen

Like the time the fraternity bus broke down ?

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:03 AM (arJlL)

185 #180 Quit Fox!

Posted by: AnnaS at November 08, 2020 10:03 AM (l4l/z)

186
Stifled Giggles - a limerick

A matron named Agnes McGillicuddy
Supervising young girls in the study
"Okay, you jackanapes
Who's that hiding in the drapes?"
"We're just reading Miz M, that's nobody!"

Posted by: Muldoon at November 08, 2020 10:03 AM (Fc5rx)

187 Greg Iles writes New Orleans and the south.
I don't think he's written much lately--he's one of those troubled geniuses, I think. Which is a southern writer trait.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:04 AM (AwPyG)

188 Chris Wallace is about to bring Mayor Pete about the transition. Mitt will be on to say that Trump is trying to start a Civil War.
==========================
Why are you torturing yourself w/that bullshit?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 08, 2020 10:04 AM (7Fj9P)

189 I got the Nero Wolfe Cookbook for Mr. April a couple of years ago. We enjoy looking through it from time to time, but I don't think we've ever made anything from it. We're not exactly gourmands.

Posted by: April at November 08, 2020 10:04 AM (OX9vb)

190 How long before Wikipedia rewrites the article on Benford's Law, proving that Biden won?

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:04 AM (7X3UV)

191 I needed some escapist fiction this week, so read Lee Child's new book, "The Sentinel." No escape.

Reacher wanders into a town where there's been a cyberattack and befriends the town's tech guy who's supposed to be responsible for not protecting the town from ransomware.
Turns out (slight spoiler) that the outage may be related to a larger plan by the...wait for it....Russians to hack the election. And influence the media. At one point the tech guy refers to Russian influence possibly persuading people not to believe the MSM. Yes, says Reacher, people might think the MSM is "fake news."

You have been warned. And by the way, Lee Child is handing off Reacher to his younger brother, Andrew Child.

Posted by: Wethal at November 08, 2020 10:05 AM (ZzVCK)

192 Hiya Grammie !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:05 AM (arJlL)

193 115
104

Light from a computer screen isn't good for sleeping

Posted by: Skip at November 08, 2020 09:35 AM (9sWOw)

Turn the screen off when you go to bed. You're welcome.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 08, 2020 09:38 AM (IbxQb)

________

I'm pretty sure Skip was referring to exposure to blue light (from sources like computer and television screens) before going to bed ... but then you probably knew that.

Posted by: ShainS at November 08, 2020 10:06 AM (WqPYg)

194 Hi vmom! Did I hear that it's your birthday?
Posted by: grammie winger

yes! I am determined to enjoy it!

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 10:06 AM (nUhF0)

195 Its da Cannibal's birthday ?

Wonder who he's having for dinnah ?

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:06 AM (arJlL)

196 Happy Birthday Cannibal !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:06 AM (arJlL)

197 It's been a great week for my magazine reading. The new issues of "Muzzleloader" and "Backwoodsman" arrived. Black powder guns, colonial and early American history, DIY articles both odd and useful, and Muzzleloader has beautiful photographs. So many hours of enjoyable distraction and edification. If my magazines on wood carving and fly tying had also arrived, I would still be reading them and not commenting here.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 10:07 AM (7EjX1)

198 You wish all employers were Fezziwigs, but there are the occasional Scrooges.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:07 AM (AwPyG)

199 "We're just reading Miz M, that's nobody!"
Posted by: Muldoon at November 08, 2020 10:03 AM (Fc5rx)

That's not funny.

Posted by: Polyphemus at November 08, 2020 10:07 AM (t+qrx)

200 I needed some escapist fiction this week, so read Lee Child's new book, "The Sentinel." No escape.

I just finished reading that.

As a HUGE Reacher fan, I thought it was kinda meh.

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:09 AM (arJlL)

201 Just went to Wiki and looked at the talk section. It's already started.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:10 AM (7X3UV)

202 Adrianne Lecter, The Green Fields series
James Cook, Surviving the Dead series
Joshua Guess, The Fall series

These are some zombie apocalypse series I really enjoy. James Cook and Joshua Guess collaborated on one book so there is a bit or cross over in the two worlds.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 08, 2020 09:54 AM (UUBmN)

I really like the Surviving the Dead series. I also liked the Apocalypse Z trilogy by Manel Loureiro.

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at November 08, 2020 10:10 AM (KuT6N)

203 I gave up Fox years ago. It is not your friend.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2020 10:10 AM (flVVM)

204 vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP!

You have mail.

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:10 AM (arJlL)

205 I think I forgot to mention last week that I read The Legend of Sleepy Hollow on Halloween waiting for the almost nonexistent trick or treaters to show up. While not being world class snooty litcher it was a well constructed tale that as a goofball kid looking for just scary shit I overlooked most of what was going on. But the ending was pretty funny as the narrator tells the reader at least half of this is bullshit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 10:11 AM (y7DUB)

206 190 How long before Wikipedia rewrites the article on Benford's Law, proving that Biden won?
Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:04 AM (7X3UV)

I thought they were already updating it...seriously

Posted by: matt foley at November 08, 2020 10:12 AM (+fqBB)

207 @191
Yeah Lee Child is gone woke. You're never sure if it's sincere, or a push by his publisher, though.

I think he was fired at Christmas, once, (he worked in British TV) He said he was moping around unemployed, and he accompanied his wife to the grocery store. He's a tall fellow, and so his wife told him that he could always be a "reacher" at the grocery store, and that's where he got the name.
I think his real name is James Grant, the brother is Andrew Grant. for historical readers, Andrew's wife is Tasha Alexander.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:12 AM (AwPyG)

208 190
How long before Wikipedia rewrites the article on Benford's Law, proving that Biden won?

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:04 AM (7X3UV)

________

Old and busted: Benford's Law
New hotness: Biden's Law

Posted by: ShainS at November 08, 2020 10:12 AM (WqPYg)

209 Not a fan of CoD at all.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 10:03 AM (2DOZq)

My sister had read this as a teenager or young adult, and always recommended it to me. I finally tried reading it about three years ago (well into my 50's), and didn't find it funny at all. I really hated the grown baby-man main character, especially.

I told her I tried, but couldn't, and she laughed and said she tried re-reading it recently and also didn't see what she had found so funny about it.

That got us talking about 100 Years of Solitude, which my brother and I had both loved in our younger years. She just wasn't feeling the magical realism thing. I admitted to her that I wouldn't be able to enjoy it now, either.

Funny things happen when you grow up.

Posted by: April at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (OX9vb)

210 All these folks saying that "Americans will realize how really bad the Dems are and just wait until the midterm elections!" and "the silver lining is that this is the best thing to happen to the Republican Party". Meanwhile, Glenn Reynolds is whining that last night Facebook wouldn't let him link to an article about Biden's votes and something called Benham's Law. Sorry, Professor, you've just been introduced to the New Norm. There's a coup going on, and there's just no room for discussion. Let's see how the financial markets break this week.

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (Pqytn)

211 77 Walker Percy's great. He and Tom McHale fought a literary and spiritual rear guard action against American Catholicism's absorption into relativism, heresy and decadence. They lost, but they were funny, perhaps noble, and maybe even tragic.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 08, 2020 09:25 AM (evxBY)

In other words, they were what the GOPe aspires to be.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (mjBut)

212 Grammie Winger, I want to say I am happy to see you here. I miss you when you are not here.

Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

(and yes, this is your chance to bust my chops after the snark from me)

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

213 First a story for all the defeatists:

In his autobiography "My Life and The Times," Taylor Caldwell, the executive editor of that paper decades ago, tells of growing up in a small town in yellow-dog Mississippi.

Every election, the Democratic candidate won all but one of the votes. Speculation was that the Republican voter was the town dentist, who never spoke about it.

The dentist died. Come the next election, Caldwell is a reporter covering the counting. (Imagine -- letting people watch a vote count!) The election supervisor opened the ballot box and began tallying the ballots, then exclaimed in shock:

"My God, that Republican ballot is still in there."
,
Think of this, people. Someone knew he was likely to be overwhelmed, yet he continued to vote his conscience. Brother, that's dedication.

That's where we are now. The cheating bastards have put in the fix, yet as long as I am able, I will go down fighting.

"My God, that Republican ballot is still in there."

**********

I finished "Farewell, My Lovely," although with a bit less interest in light of current events. Still, recommended. Wiki says Chandler crafted the novel from three separate short stories. He melded them well.

**********

Dismayed and concerned as I am about what's going to happen to the world, I decided that I needed some humor. To that end, I'm rereading "Phule's Company" by the late, great Robert Asprin. It's the standard misfits-become-worldbeaters tale, but with the RA touch

I bought this on name alone; I loved his Myth-Adventures series. I bought the next two but never cracked them. I learned this year that the series totals six books, and eBay put them all in my hands. I may binge through all six.

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2020 10:14 AM (83ScS)

214 On a sad note, I went to the store yesterday and when i got home I discovered my front door cracked open. Fearing the worst, I discovered all of my firearms and ammuntion missing. Terrible.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at November 08, 2020 09:09 AM (jvt6t)

Well, at least it wasn't a boating accident...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 10:14 AM (mjBut)

215 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?
Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

Slap hot iron to it.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 08, 2020 10:14 AM (t+qrx)

216 Not a fan of CoD at all.
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 10:03 AM (2DOZq)

It is rather fishy.

Posted by: db at November 08, 2020 10:14 AM (E0PSG)

217 Yeah Lee Child is gone woke. You're never sure if it's sincere, or a push by his publisher, though.

I think he was fired at Christmas, once, (he worked in British TV) He said he was moping around unemployed, and he accompanied his wife to the grocery store.

He's 6'10"

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:14 AM (arJlL)

218 @190

Probably within a week or two.

The left will control the narrative at all costs.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 08, 2020 10:15 AM (ue8j3)

219 During the last debate someone mentioned that "Dark Winter" was the code name in a Tom Clancy novel for a simulated bio attack in the US. Anyone know what novel that was?

Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2020 10:15 AM (Izzlo)

220 Re: dragging the pudding

In 1989, I was working for Amdahl Corp. in Sunnyvale, CA. In October, we all knew a layoff was coming even though top management wouldn't admit it. We all expected it on Friday but on Tuesday of that week, the Loma Prieta earthquake happened. Well, they couldn't have the layoff on Friday, if for no other reason, because most people weren't able to come in to work. So they graciously held off for a month which meant that a bunch of people (not including me thankfully) wound up getting laid off on the Friday before Thanksgiving. Somewhere in a box of old crap, I have a copy of the San Jose Mercury News business section with the headline, and this is an exact quote, "Is Amdahl the Grinch of 1989 Or What?"

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at November 08, 2020 10:15 AM (qc+VF)

221 Why do people depend on wiki for anything other than finding out stuff like when someone was born?

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 10:15 AM (y7DUB)

222 In terms of modern political thrillers that involve polling and focus groups as a major element, there is Interface, co-written by Neal Stephenson (author of Snow Crash). Has some other resemblances to this election which would be obvious on reading.

Posted by: antisthenes at November 08, 2020 10:15 AM (BuJoJ)

223 #210
Correction: something called Benford's Law.

Posted by: mrp at November 08, 2020 10:16 AM (Pqytn)

224 A question inspired by some different comments above: is there a Hannibal Lecter Cookbook? We have one Moron who's likely to know.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:16 AM (7X3UV)

225 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?
Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

------

During the vows, make sure you grab your spouse's crotch & declare "This belongs to me now!"

Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2020 10:17 AM (Izzlo)

226 It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

(and yes, this is your chance to bust my chops after the snark from me)
Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)
-------

Hallelujah! Congratulations! How nice to see some wonderful news.

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:17 AM (/669Q)

227 It is rather fishy.

Speaking of fishy, whatever became of the Fishing Thread ?

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:17 AM (arJlL)

228 Happy Birthday to vmom and Cannibal. May you read in peace and enjoyment. Preferably with a dog on your lap.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 10:17 AM (7EjX1)

229 You wish all employers were Fezziwigs, but there are the occasional Scrooges.
Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:07 AM (AwPyG)

I was always a Mr. Scrooge fan. He's a hard worker, takes care of his business and doesn't mind others. He's thrifty, doesn't burden others and actually pays taxes to support those institutions which claim to "help" the less "fortunate". He doesn't suffer fools or panhandlers and always has money on hand to lend to those looking to start their own businesses. He was also a pioneer in the climate change industry by limiting the amount of coal his employees could waste heating up his work spaces.

He should be a national hero in England.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 08, 2020 10:17 AM (R/m4+)

230 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

Go to the courthouse.

Posted by: BignJames at November 08, 2020 10:18 AM (AwYPR)

231 namely that New Orleans is its own unique subset of Southern literature and maybe Walker Percy fits in there. Harry Crews' strangest book, at least to me, The Knockout Artist, took place in New Orleans.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 09:59 AM (y7DUB)

Percy was more ecumenical in his southernness. "The Last Gentleman" has a wide canvas, from New York to the Mississippi Delta ending up in Santa Fe. "The Second Coming" takes place in the Smoky Mountains/Piedmont area. But yes, the Moviegoer is centered in New Orleans.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 08, 2020 10:18 AM (H8QX8)

232 Pre-nup.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2020 10:18 AM (flVVM)

233 @211
I think wiki is a lot like twitter--it really depends on who's doing the writing.

I use wiki for quick history backgrounds, and the smart history people here should be doing their own entries, it would be much-appreciated by people like me

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:18 AM (AwPyG)

234 yes! I am determined to enjoy it!
Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 10:06 AM (nUhF0)

Happy birthday to both you and Cannibal Bob!

We're having our "thanksgiving" today because it's warm enough to sit outside. I'll be surrounded by Biden voters so it will be hard to enjoy it. I don't think they'll bring up the election, but I'm still so pissed off....

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at November 08, 2020 10:19 AM (HabA/)

235 During the vows, make sure you grab your spouse's crotch & declare "This belongs to me now!"
Posted by: josephistan

"Its MINE ! ALL MINE ! AHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!"

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:19 AM (arJlL)

236 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?
Posted by: Kindltot

***********

I don't see any way this comment goes ~~unnoticed~~ unmolested by the Horde.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 08, 2020 10:19 AM (Fc5rx)

237 I'm thinking I need to liquidate portfolio tomorrow and just sit on it until this is over.

Posted by: Stellastwocents at November 08, 2020 09:48 AM (cRbt7)

I've thought about this....where do you put your $$ where they can't get their hands on it? under the mattress?
Posted by: BignJames at November 08, 2020 09:52 AM (AwYPR)

Can we have a financial book thread some time? I know almost nothing.

I don't have a portfolio. I have mutual funds, an HSA, and a "guaranteed" pension which I chose to fund more of because I want the multiplier.

I paid off my mortgage earlier this year, wiping out my savings, because I have always worried about being evicted.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 08, 2020 10:19 AM (/+bwe)

238 Forget the pre-nup. Run.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 08, 2020 10:19 AM (flVVM)

239 Oh, happy birthday to vmom and Cannibal Bob! I hope you both have a wonderful day.

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:19 AM (/669Q)

240 Happy Birthday to vmom and Cannibal Bob. I just finished reading Troubled Blood, the 900 page fourth installment in the Cormoran Strike series by JK Rowling (writing as Robert Galbraith) I enjoyed it.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz, Trump Won at November 08, 2020 10:20 AM (a4EWo)

241 @212

Unless someone else is paying for it, I recommend a simple and plain wedding, with a limited number of guests.

Someone's backyard can work in a pinch.

I've seen some very lovely backyard weddings.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 08, 2020 10:20 AM (ue8j3)

242 Hallelujah! Congratulations! How nice to see some wonderful news.
Posted by: bluebell

You're one o' them"Glass half full" people !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:20 AM (arJlL)

243 Looks like the EMT is now abandoned

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 08, 2020 10:21 AM (IzLAj)

244 When I saw "A Night in the Lonesome October", for a moment I thought it was the book, "Night in the Lonesome October" by horror's red-headed stepchild, Richard Laymon.

Laymon died several years ago from as massive heart attack (or as we say these days, COVID), just as he was starting to break big with his novel, "The Traveling Vampire Show".

"NitLO" is the first novel of his that was published posthumously and had good reviews.

Laymon is a pulpier writer than Stephen King. Those of you who find King too polite in his horror would probably like Laymon.

Oh, and Laymon also knows how to end a story.

My top three faves of his are:

1) "The Traveling Vampire Show" - three teenagers are curious about the mysterious "Traveling Vampire Show" which is coming to their town. Hi-jinks ensue and their lives are changed forever.

2) "Night in the Lonesome October" - a college student receives a kiss-off letter from his girlfriend. In his loneliness(!), he takes to wandering the streets at night in October(!). There he meets excitement, romance, and danger.

This one isn't a straight horror novel and is meant, I believe to be an oddball, pulpy, horrors romance.

3) "One Rainy Night" - One night black rain starts falling. Anyone touched by the black rain goes violently insane. The longer the rain falls, the more blood flows. Can they find out what the black rain is and what's causing it before they all go violently mad.

This one has a very nice denouement as does "TTVS".

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2020 10:21 AM (dWwl8)

245 I don't see any way this comment goes unnoticed unmolested by the Horde.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 08, 2020 10:19 AM (Fc5rx)
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Somewhere around here we must have that thread where we planned Ace's wedding for him.

*shifts through dusty threads*

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:21 AM (/669Q)

246
Just got a text from my sister. Today is the 30th anniversary of my mother passing away. It was very sudden: I called to let her know I'd returned from a trip and she sounded fine. A few hours later she was dead.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2020 10:22 AM (mht8P)

247 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?
================================
If the groomsmen are wearing white shirts, instruct your husband (assuming you're an Ette) to instruct them to wear white t-shirts underneath. It makes the white look whiter.
And yes, I denounce myself.
Edit to add: tell them NOT to take off their jackets at the reception, or roll up their sleeves.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 08, 2020 10:22 AM (7Fj9P)

248 Speaking of fishy, whatever became of the Fishing Thread ?

*************

It's hard coming up with a different angle every week.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 08, 2020 10:22 AM (Fc5rx)

249 You're one o' them"Glass half full" people !
Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:20 AM (arJlL)
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Darn straight I am. Why not look on the bright side? It's sunnier and happier over here.

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:22 AM (/669Q)

250 It's hard coming up with a different angle every week.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 08, 2020 10:22 AM (Fc5rx)
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And cast about for a new topic.

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:23 AM (/669Q)

251 221 Why do people depend on wiki for anything other than finding out stuff like when someone was born?
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 10:15 AM (y7DUB)
__________

Amusement. DuckDuckGo "Portuguese Maratha War Hoax."

It can be useful for a subject you know well, just to refresh your memory. Sometimes. Or again, to get a laugh.

The external links can be useful.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:23 AM (7X3UV)

252 Oh, happy birthday to vmom and Cannibal Bob! I hope you both have a wonderful day.

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:19 AM (/669Q)

Add me for a hat trick.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 10:23 AM (y7DUB)

253 huh, picked up a Zelazny I'd never read before from a Little Free Libary box the other day: "Eye of Cat". I always have enjoyed his work, dunno why so much of it remains unread ...

Current idle (bathroom) reading, "The Meaning of it All", by Richard Feynman ... wow, talk about a voice from a different time.

Escapism, whatever comes to hand; H. Beam Piper, David Weber, odd gleanings from Gutenberg, ...

Actually did drop my Kindle on my face twice last night, reading myself to sleep, glancing blows both times, yay.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 08, 2020 10:24 AM (6psdy)

254 Captain Hate! It's your birthday too? Happy birthday!

Cake and confetti for all!

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:25 AM (/669Q)

255 there's no allure in fishing

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:25 AM (AwPyG)

256 Oh, happy birthday to vmom and Cannibal Bob! I hope you both have a wonderful day.

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:19 AM (/669Q)

Add me for a hat trick.
Posted by: Captain Hate

And weew !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:25 AM (arJlL)

257 The Left just allegedly elected a guy that is the only Democrat the Lefty comedians have ever skewered.

Robin Williams and
Jon Stewart's Audacity of Grope.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 10:26 AM (2DOZq)

258 This is a rare day. Our local library has all three of the Judith Flanders books OM put in the post. Given my esoteric taste in books these days, that is unusual.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 10:26 AM (7EjX1)

259 239 Oh, happy birthday to vmom and Cannibal Bob! I hope you both have a wonderful day.

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:19 AM (/669Q)

Amazing they share the same birthday with J.J.!

Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2020 10:26 AM (Izzlo)

260 Captain Hate! It's your birthday too? Happy birthday!

Cake and confetti for all!
Posted by: bluebell

And sunshine !

And boids singing !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:27 AM (arJlL)

261 Wow, y'all start fast. Lisa Simpson for who dis and I would like to share my drag the pudding story. Vanderbilt, the largest employer in the state of Tennessee, laid off our department, which was keeping people out of the ER unnecessarily, on December 13, 2013. Bastards.

Posted by: jax at November 08, 2020 10:27 AM (BYqLO)

262 As a HUGE Reacher fan, I thought it was kinda meh.

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:09 AM (arJlL)

About 10 years ago I was on vacation and downloaded and read the first six books in the series. I enjoyed them (perfect vacation reading), but had no desire to continue when I returned.

They seemed just a bit too formulaic, but without the pleasure of the character development of...say...Robert Parker's "Spenser" series.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2020 10:27 AM (xT2tT)

263 Happy Birthday Captain Hate !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:27 AM (arJlL)

264 Happy birthday to captain Hate!

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at November 08, 2020 10:27 AM (HabA/)

265 What will be The One Book Everyone Must Read under the new order?

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:27 AM (7X3UV)

266 From the Twitter link in the previous thread, reason for hope:
Team Trump was watching the election from the Eisenhower Bldg. You know what else is in that building? A SCIF. (Hardened comms center.) They were watching the fraud real time.
Using 2 CIA applications, "Hammer" and "Scorecard" developed to allow spooks to remotely change election results in foreign countries, is how the D's did it.
That's how.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 08, 2020 10:27 AM (7Fj9P)

267 Amusement. DuckDuckGo "Portuguese Maratha War Hoax."

Love it!

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 10:27 AM (y7DUB)

268 Fuck netanyahoo. All he had to do is keep his mouth shut until the process played out. After what america and trump has done for you and israel! Fair fucking weather friends. Good luck with biden cocksucker they will sell you down the river.

Posted by: Ward at November 08, 2020 10:28 AM (nzKWW)

269 Amazing they share the same birthday with J.J.!
Posted by: josephistan

What are the odds ?

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:29 AM (arJlL)

270 Lindsey Graham saying to Mara Bartiromo if we don't fight back we will never win another election. Voter fraud is real

Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 10:29 AM (+YYKs)

271 Morning all. I meant to pop in only to post what I was reading and of course ended up buying another book (The Hidden Persuaders) from OregonMuse's comments. Ah well. I'm skipping the comments (so far) 'cause I'm afraid I'll spend more money. This past two weeks I've been reading Rod Dreher's latest book, "Live Not by Lies, A Manual for Christian Dissidents" It was a little hard to get into, but he does make a good case for warning us that soft totalitarianism (from work corporations, media, society) will be a burden most Christians won't be able to bear, and will break most. For something a little lighter, I turned to Allie Beth Stuckey's "You're not enough (and that's okay)" which is all about, as its subtitle reads, escaping the culture of toxic self-love. Wonderful book, a necessary corrective to today's self-focused society. I'm giving a copy of it to my 22-year-old niece for Christmas. And last, to escape all the election news this weekend, I re-read a classic, "That Hideous Strength" by C.S. Lewis. I loved his descriptions of the garden with the dancing beasts . I needed that happy ending, especially after this past week!

Posted by: CarolinaGirl at November 08, 2020 10:29 AM (Kh9rg)

272 What have I been reading? I've been picking stories here & there from the horror anthologies that I have. The volume I have in front of me now is "Alfred Hitchcock Presents Stories That Scared Even Me"

Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2020 10:30 AM (Izzlo)

273 Happy birthday to captain Hate!
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V

And Happy Thanksgiving to you !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:30 AM (arJlL)

274 Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

Congratulations Kindltot!

And Happy Birthday to Cannibal Bob and vmom!

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at November 08, 2020 10:30 AM (KuT6N)

275 Graham is saying do not accept the media's narrative of President-elect Biden.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 10:30 AM (+YYKs)

276 Happy Birthday also to you, Captain Hate.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz, Trump Won at November 08, 2020 10:31 AM (a4EWo)

277 @86 --

Emmie, I think about what must have gone through Joseph's mind in his third week/month/year in prison. Little did he know.

Dov Fischer wrote an inspiring column this past week on how our big-time election thieves all came to grief. In the Spectator, I think.

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 08, 2020 10:31 AM (83ScS)

278 @262
I think that's always the problem for authors like Child--the readers want the formula, but then the books become formulaic.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:32 AM (AwPyG)

279 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

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I see someone else already chimed in with thing about undershirts. So I got nothing.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 08, 2020 10:32 AM (wPVhA)

280 And Happy Birthday to Captain Hate, too!

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at November 08, 2020 10:32 AM (KuT6N)

281 The volume I have in front of me now is "Alfred Hitchcock Presents Stories That Scared Even Me"
Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2020 10:30 AM (Izzlo)
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Oy. That would be right up there as an answer to the question "What book would you never read, bluebell?"

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:32 AM (/669Q)

282 Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 10:30 AM (+YYKs)

Did he mention all the indictments that will be coming in #twoWeeks ?

Posted by: db at November 08, 2020 10:32 AM (E0PSG)

283 It's hard coming up with a different angle every week.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 08, 2020 10:22 AM (Fc5rx)

Need something new to reel them in.

Posted by: April at November 08, 2020 10:33 AM (OX9vb)

284 265 What will be The One Book Everyone Must Read under the new order?
Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:27 AM (7X3UV)

Biden's autobiography - The Audacity of a Dope*

*As I typed that, it dawned on me that every presidential candidate pushes out a book just around election time to generate a buzz & drum up support - but to my knowledge Biden didn't. Almost as if he knew he didn't have to.

Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2020 10:33 AM (Izzlo)

285 270 Lindsey Graham saying to Mara Bartiromo if we don't fight back we will never win another election. Voter fraud is real
Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 10:29 AM (+YYKs)
________

Fox aired that?

I'm all amazement.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:34 AM (7X3UV)

286 279 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

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I see someone else already chimed in with thing about undershirts. So I got nothing.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 08, 2020 10:32 AM (wPVhA)
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Underwear: Optional?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 10:34 AM (Dc2NZ)

287 "230 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

Go to the courthouse.

Posted by: BignJames at November 08, 2020 10:18 AM (AwYPR) "

This !
Mrs Eez and I did that.

Oh, and who was it who mentioned a few weeks ago that the music they played while leaving the church was the Linus & Lucy theme from Charlie Brown Christmas ? Left Coast Dawg ?
Loved that !
One of my all time favorite earworms !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 08, 2020 10:34 AM (6psdy)

288 @281
Yeah, I can't read horror. too scary!

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:34 AM (AwPyG)

289 Mitt Romney
@MittRomney
Ann and I extend our congratulations to President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris. We know both of them as people of good will and admirable character. We pray that God may bless them in the days and years ahead.

-
I understand there is a prophecy among the Mormons that the constitution will hang by a thread but will be saved by a Mormon. Mitt Romney will not be that Mormon.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 08, 2020 10:35 AM (+y/Ru)

290
Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM

um, yeah...it looks like I'm going to recuse myself from this topic

totes cereal: all the best to you & yours

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 08, 2020 10:35 AM (k8Sei)

291 It's hard coming up with a different angle every week.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 08, 2020 10:22 AM (Fc5rx)

Need something new to reel them in.
Posted by: April at November 08, 2020 10:33 AM (OX9vb)
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Something better than pollock jokes.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 08, 2020 10:35 AM (xRn8c)

292 "Whatever it is, I'm against it."

- Groucho Marx, malcontent

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - TRUMP WON! #StoptheSteal at November 08, 2020 10:35 AM (HaL55)

293 About 10 years ago I was on vacation and downloaded and read the first six books in the series. I enjoyed them (perfect vacation reading), but had no desire to continue when I returned.

That's funny.

I bailed on the series after about six books.

By book six or so, I could pretty much tell you exactly what would happen when.

Very boring, baby.

But, he's rich as hell so victory to Reacher and sucks to me.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2020 10:35 AM (dWwl8)

294 Off to church.
Have the best day!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 08, 2020 10:36 AM (7Fj9P)

295 I understand there is a prophecy among the Mormons that the constitution will hang by a thread but will be saved by a Mormon. Mitt Romney will not be that Mormon.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 08, 2020 10:35 AM (+y/Ru)

Mitt is a disgrace. I hope all the bad things in life happen to him and no one but him.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 08, 2020 10:36 AM (R/m4+)

296 " I wouldn't belong to any club who would have me."

- Groucho Marx,

Posted by: It's me donna at November 08, 2020 10:36 AM (Zmnko)

297 You know, if Miss Lindsay is still talking the talk* there must be something up. If he thought the ship sinking, he'd be leading the rats' aquaparade.

*The most we can ever expect from xher.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:36 AM (7X3UV)

298 Ah, dragging the pudding...brings back memories...

Between Thanksgiving and Christmas, one year, my car died, my marriage ended, I moved out of my house and got laid off from my job.

I'm on track to do a bit better this year.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 08, 2020 10:37 AM (WEBkv)

299 Animal book club looks like pure democracy.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2020 10:37 AM (63Dwl)

300 Lot of Scorpio's b'days today. Happy b'day to y'all from another Scorpio.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at November 08, 2020 10:37 AM (iEx0u)

301 270 Lindsey Graham saying to Mara Bartiromo if we don't fight back we will never win another election. Voter fraud is real
Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 10:29 AM (+YYKs)
________

Fox aired that?

I'm all amazement.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:34 AM (7X3UV)
*************
Maria's show has been great. She's standing up and standing for Trump.
Cruz up now

Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 10:37 AM (+YYKs)

302 Oy. That would be right up there as an answer to the question "What book would you never read, bluebell?"
Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:32 AM (/669Q)

You and me both, girlfriend.

Posted by: April at November 08, 2020 10:37 AM (OX9vb)

303 I'm on track to do a bit better this year.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 08, 2020 10:37 AM (WEBkv)
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Thank heavens.

Look at it this way: you used up all your lousy luck in one month. #Winning!

Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:38 AM (/669Q)

304 @293
To be fair, a lot of readers like a formulaic book. The romance genre is the perfect example of this, with a lot of money made.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:38 AM (AwPyG)

305
@MittRomney
Ann and I extend our congratulations to President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris. We know both of them as people of good will and admirable character. We pray that God may bless them in the days and years ahead.

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Go to hell.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2020 10:38 AM (mht8P)

306 119 ... "I thought that was an older lady, a governess or school marm."

Eris, Thanks. Looking closer at the illustration I believe you're correct.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 10:38 AM (7EjX1)

307 Graham is saying do not accept the media's narrative of President-elect Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 10:30 AM (+YYKs)

That is a big deal. I assume on Fox ? If true - also a big deal.

Posted by: English Lycanthrope at November 08, 2020 10:39 AM (zoiGB)

308 305
@MittRomney
Ann and I extend our congratulations to President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris. We know both of them as people of good will and admirable character. We pray that God may bless them in the days and years ahead.

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Go to hell.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2020 10:38 AM (mht8P)
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That says more about the character of Romney than it does BK.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 08, 2020 10:39 AM (WEBkv)

309 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?
__________

I mentioned this on the ONT. When we were married, we chose the Wagner and Mendelssohn standards because we had literally never actually heard them at a wedding.

And that is me to a T. Do the conventional thing when it is actually unconventional. In college, I started wearing a coat and tie to class (70s). I LOVED being lectured for conformity when I was the only student in the room dressed like that.

GKC was good on this.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:39 AM (7X3UV)

310
You know, spontaneous combustion is a funny thing.

Too bad it's never struck Mutt Rombley.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2020 10:40 AM (dWwl8)

311 You know, if Miss Lindsay is still talking the talk* there must be something up. If he thought the ship sinking, he'd be leading the rats' aquaparade.

*The most we can ever expect from xher.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:36 AM (7X3UV)
************
He seems to think the direction of the Republican Party is Trump.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 10:40 AM (+YYKs)

312 Go to hell.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2020 10:38 AM (mht8P)

I second that. What a small man he is.

Posted by: Spypeach at November 08, 2020 10:40 AM (Up/Jb)

313 Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 08, 2020 10:20 AM (ue8j3)

That's what Inspector and I did. I like to think it went well. His best friend and my kids were the wedding party.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 08, 2020 10:40 AM (uquGJ)

314 Congrats Kindltot!!!

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 10:41 AM (nUhF0)

315 The media narrative is nothing different than what all the bad guys have been trying since the last election. They try to pretend they hold power, when they don't.
And they are finally up against a guy who's not cowed by them rattling their empty scabbards.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:41 AM (AwPyG)

316 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?
__________

Do you have a twin brother ?

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 10:42 AM (arJlL)

317 Thank heavens.

Look at it this way: you used up all your lousy luck in one month. #Winning!
Posted by: bluebell at November 08, 2020 10:38 AM (/669Q)
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Things are great now, but, at that time? Mental stability and myself didn't even have a passing acquaintance.

That whole thing happened years ago, so, it's distant memory and I kick myself, once in a while, for being such an idiot during that period of my life.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 08, 2020 10:42 AM (WEBkv)

318 *perks up

Wedding advice ? you came to the right place !

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2020 10:42 AM (zr5Kq)

319
Graham is saying do not accept the media's narrative of President-elect Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 10:30 AM (+YYKs)

Scott Adams is saying we are living in a simulation. I didn't catch it at first, but he means all the media online and cable are now selling a vision of the world and expecting us to follow it.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:42 AM (WyVLE)

320 dreher thinks he can insulate himself against the new order, one is reminded of the conan story, of the demon princess that took the place of her sister, in some far off kingdom,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at November 08, 2020 10:42 AM (hMlTh)

321 Congrats from me too, Kindltot, how soon is this wedding happening?

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz, Trump Won at November 08, 2020 10:43 AM (a4EWo)

322 Has this ever happened to you? In my career, I was laid off many times,
but never at Christmas. I've known some people who have, though, and I
can't help asking, "what kind of a-hole company does this?"

Answer: a company that takes advantage of the abortion called NAFTA.

Happened to me back in '093. About two weeks before Thanksgiving, our company upper management announced it would be moving all operations to Mexico effective 1/1/94 and laying about 300 people off. That was the best manufacturing job I'd ever had. Decent pay, good cow-orkers in a fun environment and upward mobility. Made automotive A/C components by the millions.

Merry Christmas!

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - TRUMP WON! #StoptheSteal at November 08, 2020 10:43 AM (HaL55)

323 Just finished The Big Clock by Kenneth Fearing in the LoA Noir volume. Great premise of a man searching for himself. Really enjoyed it. Apparently it's been made into a movie 4 times and I haven't seen any one of them.

And I just want to say, when I retired to a banana republic, I thought the weather would be nicer.

Posted by: Who knew at November 08, 2020 10:44 AM (SfO/T)

324 My contribution to the book thread: Thanks to the 'Ron who recommended "Radical Eye for the Infidel Guy." There's lots of info packed into it and written so it can be absorbed quickly. It's my kind of book: facts, facts, and more facts and the occasional biting Moron Horde stabs at sarcasm.

Now OT: former data chief for President Trump put up a Go Fund me to track voter fraud. He needed the money to purchase the data so he could run the analytics. GoFund Me decided that he was violating their terms and that his campaign was "fraudulent." BTW. he almost raised his goal of 250K before being "bothered" by Gofundme. Epoch Times has the article: https://tinyurl.com/y34cfbet

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 08, 2020 10:44 AM (8/7u2)

325 319
Graham is saying do not accept the media's narrative of President-elect Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 10:30 AM (+YYKs)

Scott Adams is saying we are living in a simulation. I didn't catch it at first, but he means all the media online and cable are now selling a vision of the world and expecting us to follow it.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:42 AM (WyVLE)

The whole year has been like living in Bizarro World - everything is the opposite of what it should be

Hello

Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2020 10:44 AM (Izzlo)

326 Started reading a book in the Kennedy assassination...

Not that one, the other one. Robert Kennedy's murder.

The title is "A Lie Too Big To Fail."

I've heard rumblings of there being "more than one gunman," but it would seem the story here is even more complicated than that. It would seem there was an understanding of a conspiracy from the start, and I'm too early in the book to know exactly where it got derailed. How much was the bungling of LAPD, that sort of thing.

But spoiler... the Deep State appears to be involved.

Yay. As they say, the more things change.....

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2020 10:44 AM (hku12)

327 Morning all...

This is just the best! You go Yahoo!

https://tinyurl.com/y5fp5cj7

Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2020 10:44 AM (cF8AT)

328 Weeding advice? Well, first you need a good hoe, one that's not too heavy. And be sure to wear gloves, so you don't get blisters and boots to protect your feet and... What's that? Wedding?

Never mind.

Posted by: Emily Littela at November 08, 2020 10:45 AM (PiwSw)

329 Here's a very math analysis of the Beijing Biden Fraud situation for all of you big brains:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/08/just-

absolutely-insane-if-this-thread-doesnt-make-ya-go-

hmmm-about-bidens-projected-win-nothing-will/

(remove extra spaces)

Well worth reading.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2020 10:45 AM (dWwl8)

330 math = mathy

Autocorrected to idiocy. Thx.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2020 10:45 AM (dWwl8)

331 It's hard coming up with a different angle every week. --Muldoon

Oh, I have faith in the master baiters here.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 08, 2020 10:46 AM (zMFmR)

332 Jumped to the bottom so first off, Happy Birthday to all and sundry.
Finished The Bloody Bozeman by Dorothy Johnson.
Very interesting and a fair amount of bloodshed and carnage. Just to cheer me up.
The history of the Bozeman Trail from the Oregon Trail to the gold fields. She covers a lot of ground with the Indians, the personalities of the emigrants and soldiers. Also, a good bit about the Vigilantes. Whe remained a force to be reckoned with well into statehood for Montana.

Posted by: Winston dreg of society at November 08, 2020 10:46 AM (XedVG)

333 304 @293
To be fair, a lot of readers like a formulaic book. The romance genre is the perfect example of this, with a lot of money made.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:38 AM (AwPyG)
_________

"Formulaic" is used as though it's an automatic disqualifier. That's BS. To take an obvious example, every Holmes fan looks forward to the amazing deduction at the start. Lose that, and the story is weakened.

One of the pleasures you get as a philosophy major (and they were few) came when the Socratic litany begins. "If you want a boat, would you got to shipbuilder, or someone else." In the Laches (IIRC- that's still boxed) a young Socrates is talking to two people, Laches having been away from Athens for many years. He says "We should discuss this the way young Socrates suggests." The other guy says, in effect, "You don't know what you're getting in for."

Works in other forms, too. "This is where Gracie/Lucy/Ralph/Barney does something insane." Where would those shows be without them?

Of course, it has to be handled well. Like everything else.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:46 AM (7X3UV)

334 This is just the best! You go Yahoo!

https://tinyurl.com/y5fp5cj7
Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2020 10:44 AM (cF8AT)
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I saw that over at Insty.

I just shook my head. MSM knows what's going to happen, and, in fact, are in on it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 08, 2020 10:46 AM (WEBkv)

335 This is just the best! You go Yahoo!

https://tinyurl.com/y5fp5cj7

Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2020 10:44 AM (cF8AT)
Well, we know *that* fix is in. Joe will make his acceptance speech at Fort Marcy Park.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 08, 2020 10:47 AM (6XLoz)

336 @322
A lot of companies moved the end of their fiscal year to a quarter other than the end of the calendar year for just this purpose; you're reducing force during the holidays.
Also end-of-fical-year means a lot of work on budgets, etc, and no one wants to do that stuff in December.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:47 AM (AwPyG)

337 Happy Birthday Captain Hate!!!

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 10:47 AM (nUhF0)

338 Here is something fun to ponder.

Rombley becoming a Democrat.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2020 10:47 AM (ZfRYq)

339
Now OT: former data chief for President Trump put up a Go Fund me to track voter fraud. He needed the money to purchase the data so he could run the analytics. GoFund Me decided that he was violating their terms and that his campaign was "fraudulent." BTW. he almost raised his goal of 250K before being "bothered" by Gofundme. Epoch Times has the article: https://tinyurl.com/y34cfbet
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 08, 2020 10:44 AM (8/7u2)

othered.

He was "othered" by Gofundme. They are all around us so this election IS the hill to die on. Get off Twitter. Go to Parlor ( they are getting loads of new users) and get on Rumble for videos. And avoid gofundme.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 08, 2020 10:47 AM (8/7u2)

340 of the demon princess that took the place of her sister,

Ah, I see you've met my ex.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at November 08, 2020 10:48 AM (cCxiu)

341 I guess there wasn't a single monk in Admont who said, "You know, we're monks. Shouldn't we tone it down a bit?"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 08, 2020 10:48 AM (wPVhA)

342 320 dreher thinks he can insulate himself against the new order, one is reminded of the conan story, of the demon princess that took the place of her sister, in some far off kingdom,
Posted by: bolivar de gris at November 08, 2020 10:42 AM (hMlTh)
__________

I thought that was in The Magician's Nephew.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:48 AM (7X3UV)

343 338 Here is something fun to ponder.

Rombley becoming a Democrat.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2020 10:47 AM (ZfRYq)

You mean I'm not already?

Posted by: Mitt Rombley at November 08, 2020 10:48 AM (8/7u2)

344 Hmmmmm

https://tinyurl.com/y5o6xkhg

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 10:48 AM (O3/K+)

345

Is today's Dilbert strip about CNN?

https://dilbert.com/strip/2020-11-08

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 08, 2020 10:49 AM (63Dwl)

346 Here is something fun to ponder.

Rombley becoming a Democrat.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2020 10:47 AM (ZfRYq)

Becoming?

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 10:49 AM (2DOZq)

347 MSM knows what's going to happen, and, in fact, are in on it.

Rush Limbaugh posited earlier this year that we have it all wrong - the DNC doesn't run the media, the media runs the DNC. It's a much, much better fit for what's happening.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 08, 2020 10:49 AM (6XLoz)

348
Here is something fun to ponder.

Rombley becoming a Democrat.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2020 10:47 AM (ZfRYq)

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The Life of Mitt: stay in the Senate and rape America or go back to Bain and rape employees.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2020 10:49 AM (mht8P)

349 301 Maria's show has been great. She's standing up and standing for Trump.
Cruz up now

it heartens me to think the gloaty biden partisans on facebook have forgotten rule 1 of 2020: expect the unexpected

Posted by: Anachronda at November 08, 2020 10:49 AM (5br8a)

350 Crowder is Livestreaming right now. If you can't take that sort of thing right now, avoid it for your own sanity.

Posted by: Bon Scott at November 08, 2020 10:49 AM (adO8x)

351 @333
Exactly. Half the fun in a romance is wondering how the author is going to pull it off.
Same with mystery. The author drops clues, and the reader is trying toguess the conclusion. the fun is in how it's done

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:50 AM (AwPyG)

352 327 Morning all...

This is just the best! You go Yahoo!

https://tinyurl.com/y5fp5cj7
Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2020 10:44 AM (cF8AT)
________

Dancing Latina was better.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:50 AM (7X3UV)

353 Graham is saying do not accept the media's narrative of President-elect Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 08, 2020 10:30 AM (+YYKs)

Scott
Adams is saying we are living in a simulation. I didn't catch it at
first, but he means all the media online and cable are now selling a
vision of the world and expecting us to follow it.

Yep, I grok this. I will never accept Puddinhead O'Biden as anything but a guy who should be at home surrounded by his family whose names he can't remember. He will never be my president or even "a" president.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - TRUMP WON! #StoptheSteal at November 08, 2020 10:50 AM (HaL55)

354 More Lin Wood - Patience

https://tinyurl.com/y3u2pwbh

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 10:50 AM (O3/K+)

355 A lot of companies moved the end of their fiscal year to a quarter other than the end of the calendar year for just this purpose; you're reducing force during the holidays.
Also end-of-fical-year means a lot of work on budgets, etc, and no one wants to do that stuff in December.
Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:47 AM (AwPyG)
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The company I worked for, way back in the day, figured out it was cheaper to borrow money, and build stock against the coming year, so they could reduce lead times and keep their experienced work force around.

But, some times, they'd reach the limit of what they could borrow against projected sales, so, layoffs would happen.

For the most part, though, they tried to avoid it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 08, 2020 10:50 AM (WEBkv)

356 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

You should know better than to ask a question like that around here.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 10:50 AM (mjBut)

357 "the DNC doesn't run the media, the media runs the DNC."

It's the Borg, the incestuous alliance of BigGov, Media, Academia and select co-opted companies.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 08, 2020 10:51 AM (9TdxA)

358 Morning all...

This is just the best! You go Yahoo!

https://tinyurl.com/y5fp5cj7

Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2020 10:44 AM (cF8AT)

I am not going to read any more yahoo news but does it go something like this: Kameltoe will not be Pres because Joe was never the President and Granny Rictus takes over (FOR LIFE!!!!)
Seriously, what I love best about yahoo right now is the comments are turned off in all of their articles acclaiming Biden as dear leader and telling how all of America is celebrating is they have turned off comments.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 08, 2020 10:51 AM (946rW)

359 "Rush Limbaugh posited earlier this year that we have it all wrong - the DNC doesn't run the media, the media runs the DNC. It's a much, much better fit for what's happening."

He forgot big tech. But I don't know if they are working together or if Big Tech is pulling the media's strings.

Posted by: Tuna at November 08, 2020 10:51 AM (gLRfa)

360
Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

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1) Congratulations.

2) Don't make it a spectacle. Her Majesty and I got married by the JP and went to lunch afterwards. 27 years ago.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 08, 2020 10:52 AM (mht8P)

361 Crud, look at the time.

Need to run, church is calling.

Later!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 08, 2020 10:52 AM (WEBkv)

362 I will repeat my prognostication from last night: Trump is going to the UN. When? I don't know.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 08, 2020 10:52 AM (KAi1n)

363 Too dangerous to vote in person but totes cool for 50K people to gather and celebrate.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 10:52 AM (22mNy)

364 Happy Birthday Captain Hate!!!
Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 10:47 AM (nUhF0)

Thank you and all. I think we talked a while back how we got the best present ever four years ago. Btw I'm not giving up and we will prevail.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 10:52 AM (y7DUB)

365 the general consensus amongst the twitter-folk is the CIA runs the media, who runs the government. In that order.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:52 AM (AwPyG)

366 Reading L Lin Wood's Twitter has me feeling good about the evidence that we have of epic vote fraud.

And ready to march on DC and *type* *delete* *type* *delete* *type* *delete* their *type* *delete* up their *type* *delete* and rip out *type* *delete* .

I guess I will settle for donating to the recount fund.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 10:53 AM (3P/5p)

367 Have they started saying they should inaugurate Biden now. Why wait?

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:53 AM (7X3UV)

368 362 I will repeat my prognostication from last night: Trump is going to the UN. When? I don't know.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 08, 2020 10:52 AM (KAi1n)

___

If there is an organization more anti-Trump than the UN I'd be hard pressed to find it. What would be the point?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 10:53 AM (22mNy)

369 all the media online and cable are now selling a
vision of the world and expecting us to follow it.

Otherwise known as gaslighting

Posted by: db at November 08, 2020 10:53 AM (E0PSG)

370 I am not going to read any more yahoo news but does it go something like this: Kameltoe will not be Pres because Joe was never the President and Granny Rictus takes over (FOR LIFE!!!!)
Seriously, what I love best about yahoo right now is the comments are turned off in all of their articles acclaiming Biden as dear leader and telling how all of America is celebrating is they have turned off comments.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 08, 2020 10:51 AM (946rW)

Don't worry...it's just a screen shot of a headline. It won't take you to Yahoo.

Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2020 10:53 AM (cF8AT)

371 365 the general consensus amongst the twitter-folk is the CIA runs the media, who runs the government. In that order.
Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:52 AM (AwPyG)

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I don't think the CIA is smart enough to run its own coffee maker. Just look at it's unblemished record of failure.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 08, 2020 10:54 AM (wPVhA)

372 "the general consensus amongst the twitter-folk is the CIA runs the media, who runs the government. In that order."

Seconded.
Plus, the FBI is on the voter fraud cases, so, rest easy. (rolls eyes...)

Posted by: attila the unready at November 08, 2020 10:54 AM (w7KSn)

373 There is NO evidence of election fraud. Such charges are baseless, and are made without evidence. They are entirely discredited.

SCIENCE!

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:54 AM (7X3UV)

374 344 Hmmmmm

https://tinyurl.com/y5o6xkhg
Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 10:48 AM (O3/K+)

Remember Pence happily said, "We caught them all."

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 08, 2020 10:55 AM (8/7u2)

375 And that is me to a T. [ . . . ]
Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:39 AM (7X3UV)

I do have the claw hammer coat I bought for my sister's wedding, I will think on that.

Thank you

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:55 AM (WyVLE)

376 Happy Birfday Cap'n Hate! Have a great one!

Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2020 10:55 AM (cF8AT)

377 >>> 289 Mitt Romney
@MittRomney
Ann and I extend our congratulations to President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris. We know both of them as people of good will and admirable character. We pray that God may bless them in the days and years ahead.

-
I understand there is a prophecy among the Mormons that the constitution will hang by a thread but will be saved by a Mormon. Mitt Romney will not be that Mormon.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 08, 2020 10:35 AM (+y/Ru)

Fk Romey. I'd bet on Larry Correia if anyone. ....or maybe Sarah Hoyt. You know she's a Mormon guy, right?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 08, 2020 10:55 AM (OUT8G)

378 And speaking of election fraud, Michael Malice had a long interview with the author of the book, "The Fighting Bunch," by Chris DeRose.

Apparently this is enough of a story that they made a teevee movie about it. The "battle of Athens," where a group of WWII Vets took on the corrupt political machine in Athens, Tennessee.

I'll read the book eventually, but I have a ton of others on my plate right now. Those of you familiar with Malice know he's got his own little chickens he must flog, and the author was mostly polite, but didn't quite agree with Malice on things like voting and representative government.

In fact, the author sounded like someone who would fit in quite well here.

So for anyone interested in an example of taking on corruption in politics... and winning(!) this is apparently a story worth reading.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2020 10:56 AM (hku12)

379 CulturalHusbandry
@APhilosophae

Makes the point that historically, 3% of ballots have only president marked and nothing else. This year it was 18%.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 10:56 AM (22mNy)

380 Another frustrating find is Hexter's book on More's Utopia, which I have not read, though I love Hexter. But I cannot find my copy of Utopia.

There's also been a stall in finding my ship books. I feel like a vote counter in Philadelphia.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 10:57 AM (7X3UV)

381 @371
If you knew how many former CIA are office holders and big time anchors on TV (Jake Tapper) your eyes would start clear out of your head.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:57 AM (AwPyG)

382 Sarah Hoyt. You know she's a Mormon guy, right?

uh...

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 10:57 AM (3P/5p)

383 I guess I will settle for donating to the recount fund.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 10:53 AM (3P/5p)

What fundraising site is being used?

Genuinely shocked that hasn't been shut down yet

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 08, 2020 10:57 AM (oAY8z)

384 I do have the claw hammer coat I bought for my sister's wedding, I will think on that.

Thank you
Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:55 AM (WyVLE)

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Now you have to consider a coordinating tool belt.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 08, 2020 10:58 AM (wPVhA)

385 I think Maria B. is fantastic but I am boycotting all things Fox. Can the nice poster who said that Lindsey is actually showing a spine please let us know what Cruz said? Thanks.

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 10:58 AM (O3/K+)

386 The biggest old Drag The Pudding story was Studebaker. When their newly-headed Board began meeting in New York City instead of South Bend, some said no good could come of it. A short time later, and two weeks before Christmas, they announced the end of automotive production (they never "went out of business," morphing into an investment arm). Later inside commenters said that the Nov 22 shooting of JFK made a nice shadow into which their announcement would disappear without much outrage.

I talked to a guy who was in a grade school classroom the day it came out. The principal came around to each class and announced it, just as he had the Kennedy business a couple of weeks earlier. The guy said ir colored his expectation of school announcements for the rest of his education.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 08, 2020 10:58 AM (zMFmR)

387 381 @371
If you knew how many former CIA are office holders and big time anchors on TV (Jake Tapper) your eyes would start clear out of your head.
Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:57 AM (AwPyG)

___

Tapper was in the CIA?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 10:58 AM (22mNy)

388 Here is something fun to ponder.

Rombley becoming a Democrat.

Posted by: blaster at November 08, 2020 10:47 AM (ZfRYq)

Nah.

Mutt will never be an "Elder Statesman" as a Dim.

The minute Trump is gone, he totally loses any value he had.

He has much more prestige as a GOPe backstabber. Look at McCain. That's essentially who Rombley wants to be.

Plus, his money chain is all tangled up in GOPe business. He'd be throwing that away.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 08, 2020 10:58 AM (dWwl8)

389 Is today's Dilbert strip about CNN?

https://dilbert.com/strip/2020-11-08

Yes, very yes.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 08, 2020 10:59 AM (6XLoz)

390 @MittRomney

Ann and I extend our congratulations to President-elect Joe Biden
and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris. We know both of them as people
of good will and admirable character. We pray that God may bless them in
the days and years ahead.

It figures that Cuck Romney is the first sellout.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2020 10:59 AM (mPbc8)

391 Time for some brainstorming. I'm trying to come up with an equivalent of "Epstein didn't kill himself" for the election fraud. Something simple that cuts to the point and is easily distilled in memes.

Any ideas?

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 08, 2020 10:59 AM (LZ7Gl)

392 Kindltot,

Regarding weddings:
They are important markers of the new union, not the purpose of the union, and not the end, rather the beginning.

Make sure you remember it's just the start of a long relationship, and don't let it negatively impact that relationship before or after it transpires (esp. financially, emotionally, with in-laws, etc).

Make it fun, practical, and a little bit underwhelming, and save the rest for the rest of time.

Posted by: .87c at November 08, 2020 11:00 AM (TDP3i)

393 @387
Yup. See his bio

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:00 AM (AwPyG)

394 Not sure who this is but...

https://tinyurl.com/y4pedyhe

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:00 AM (O3/K+)

395 Another book I recommend, to those so inclined, is Ed Feser's The Last Superstition. It's a Thomist attack on the New Atheists (Dawkins, Hitchens, et al), from the early 2000s.

Of course he defends Bush, as we all did then. Now he's MAGA like us.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 11:00 AM (7X3UV)

396 the general consensus amongst the twitter-folk is the CIA runs the media, who runs the government. In that order.
Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:52 AM (AwPyG)

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I don't think the CIA is smart enough to run its own coffee maker. Just look at it's unblemished record of failure.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 08, 2020 10:54 AM (wPVhA)

That's what I used to think, but that's because it appears we're looking at it from the wrong angle.

They've a terrible record of spreading America's values into foreign lands, and/or fighting the spies of other nations.

However, if one starts with the assumption the Deep State is more about causing America to more closely embrace the principles of the left, well.....

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2020 11:00 AM (hku12)

397 At least the Mexican president kept his mouth shut unlike other world leaders..... UK, Israel ( im sure there will be more)....talkin to you assholes.

Posted by: Ward at November 08, 2020 11:00 AM (nzKWW)

398 CIA--So was egg mcmuffin, and plenty of others
There's a reason the talking heads on TV do not seem to be there based on their intelligence, attractiveness, or presence.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:01 AM (AwPyG)

399 Re: formulaic novels.

I never comment on the book thread but I think I'll talk about this. I find most mystery series are formulaic especially if they are focused on a single character.

I've read a lot of the Temperance Brennan series by Kathy Reichs. I know that, come the second last chapter, there will be a gun pointing at Temperance. But I still find them to be an enjoyable light read.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at November 08, 2020 11:01 AM (lgiXo)

400 If you knew how many former CIA are office holders and big time anchors on TV (Jake Tapper) your eyes would start clear out of your head.

If Tapper was CIA, I fully understand how the intelligence community neither has intelligence nor is a community.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 08, 2020 11:02 AM (6XLoz)

401 >> Tapper was in the CIA?

That explains why he can lie so easily with a straight face.

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:02 AM (O3/K+)

402 Good morning, horde!

I've had Jack Posobiec's twitter feed open in one tab for quite a while, just to keep up on what's going on in the twitterverse. It really irks me that he's using the name Gulag Inmate 4859 now. It's neither funny nor clever, and I'm in no mood for irony or whatever he thinks that is.

I'm still pissed off and still confident that they won't get away with this coup.

Keep the faith, patriots.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at November 08, 2020 11:03 AM (5FCda)

403 381 @371
If you knew how many former CIA are office holders and big time anchors on TV (Jake Tapper) your eyes would start clear out of your head.
Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 10:57 AM (AwPyG)

And I am sure you know this, but for everyone else, guess how and where CIA recruits its new members.

Go ahead and guess. We'll wait.

Still waiting...

If you guessed Ivy League schools, you got it in one!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2020 11:04 AM (hku12)

404 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)
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Congratulations!

1) Do NOT get a ring with a jewel plucked from the eye of a cursed idol. Ask me how I know!

2) Dwarf ring-bearer, tumblers, and fire hoopers lead the bride and groom down the aisle strewn with flowers (NOT poppies! Zzzzzzzz)

3) Roast ox and keg easier than mailing out "meat, fish, or vegan shroom-loaf?" cards.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 11:04 AM (Dc2NZ)

405 Tapper is a jock sniffer. He could no more be CIA than a soldier. He is known for one thing and one thing only. He wrote a book about better men than he. Hell I would bet on Wolf Blitzer vs Tapper in a Celebrity Jeopardy contest.

Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 11:04 AM (mbITn)

406 Since this is the book thread and we have wandered on to the topic of the CIA, may I suggest "The Devil's Chessboard"

Posted by: attila the unready at November 08, 2020 11:04 AM (w7KSn)

407 Trump is going to the UN. When? I don't know.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 08, 2020 10:52 AM (KAi1n)

Trump is not going to the UN. Are you under some illusion that the UN will do anything but cosign on Biden's corruption?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 08, 2020 11:04 AM (946rW)

408 Well 5,000 words into NaNoWriMo project which means I am about 5,000 words behind target. Hopefully will start picking up the pace.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 08, 2020 11:04 AM (eLYXt)

409 "What fundraising site is being used? "

WINRED

Trump's site

Posted by: Tuna at November 08, 2020 11:05 AM (gLRfa)

410 289 Mitt Romney
@MittRomney
Ann and I extend our congratulations to President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris. We know both of them as people of good will and admirable character. We pray that God may bless them in the days and years ahead.

Holy crap, Mittens dropped to his knees so fast, he probably broke the sound barrier.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 11:05 AM (mjBut)

411 To me, there is a correlation between the type of wedding thrown and whether a marriage will last.

If the bride wants a horse drawn carriage, they're doomed.If one of the mothers is calling all the shots, they're doomed.

I went to a fancy event, in a fancy country club in Bel Air, and one of the women was miserable because she wanted to have her daughter's wedding at this club. But the daughter was marrying a youth church councilor, and they were having a back yard wedding and inviting all his students.

That one's good for 50+ years, I thought privately, as I commiserated with her

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:05 AM (AwPyG)

412 Holy crap, Mittens dropped to his knees so fast, he probably broke the sound barrier.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 11:05 AM (mjBut)

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He's positively Bushian in his zeal to embrace defeat.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 08, 2020 11:06 AM (wPVhA)

413 PA BS

https://tinyurl.com/y2xmeo9h

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:07 AM (O3/K+)

414 If you guessed Ivy League schools, you got it in one!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2020 11:04 AM (hku12)

That means William F. Buckley was recruited out of Yale.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 11:07 AM (mjBut)

415 "If there is an organization more anti-Trump than the UN I'd be hard pressed to find it. What would be the point?"

Posted by: Asshoes
///

I'm glad you asked. What's the world's largest stage? The U.N. General Assembly. The Media has to cover him and by that I mean all the media in the entire world. Think about the optics of us having to get video of our own President speaking within our own country from outside this country.

Trump starts out with an overview of our Constitution and election system, talks up the aspirational aspects of our Constitution, etc., talks about peace breaking out in the world, trade deals, etc. Then he exposes everything Brennan, et al., have done to the world, then he exposes what they've done here. He concludes by explaining to the world how they are all better off, collectively, with a strong, neutral, honest U.S., which is what he wants too.

True International Pressure

Posted by: SFGoth at November 08, 2020 11:07 AM (KAi1n)

416 If Tapper was CIA, I fully understand how the intelligence community neither has intelligence nor is a community.

Hmm, that makes sense. We have a saying back home in Alabama about people like Fake Tapper: "Something about that boy just ain't right."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - TRUMP WON! #StoptheSteal at November 08, 2020 11:07 AM (HaL55)

417 358 Morning all...

This is just the best! You go Yahoo!

https://tinyurl.com/y5fp5cj7

Posted by: Tami at November 08, 2020 10:44 AM (cF8AT)

I am not going to read any more yahoo news but does it go something like this: Kameltoe will not be Pres because Joe was never the President and Granny Rictus takes over (FOR LIFE!!!!)
Seriously, what I love best about yahoo right now is the comments are turned off in all of their articles acclaiming Biden as dear leader and telling how all of America is celebrating is they have turned off comments.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 08, 2020 10:51 AM (946rW)

They're also playing up Vote-Stealin' Joe as some sort of Great Uniter. Yeah, the guy who called Trump supporters "chumps" just a couple of weeks ago; that guy's gonna unite us all and usher in a new era of euphoria for everyone.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 08, 2020 11:07 AM (H3MF8)

418 @407
I wouldn't be surprised if Trump kicked the UN out of the US, and withdrew. There's another perfect example of the US taxpayers funding our enemies

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:07 AM (AwPyG)

419 One problem with alphabetical sorting, especially with computers, is how to place characters that don't exist in English, such as the umlaut Ed vowels in German, "Elle" "enje" and "erre" in Spanish, the A with the circle some of the Scandinavian languages use, etc. and that's just in the Latin character set.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 08, 2020 11:08 AM (qyH+l)

420 If the bride wants a horse drawn carriage, they're doomed.If one of the mothers is calling all the shots, they're doomed.

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That carriage isn't going anywhere without horses, you know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 08, 2020 11:08 AM (wPVhA)

421 https://tinyurl.com/jg8sytw

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 11:08 AM (7X3UV)

422 Love all the fishing puns! But I've got to go, I've got someone on the other line.

Posted by: Who knew at November 08, 2020 11:08 AM (SfO/T)

423 Hidden persuaders?

James Tiptree Jr

The Girl Who Was Plugged In

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 08, 2020 11:09 AM (eLYXt)

424 Companies that fire people during Christmas are ones who don't want to pay bonuses, in my experience.

Posted by: Andyzero at November 08, 2020 11:09 AM (a06dx)

425 @379

It doesn't matter, once the Democrats were allowed to change the very nature of how we conduct national elections, it was all over.

You have to stop the fraud before the fraud happens.

Sort of what the NYC Street crimes unit did with crime before it was disbanded and youll never believe what's happened in NYC since it's been disbanded.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 08, 2020 11:09 AM (ue8j3)

426 3) Roast ox and keg easier than mailing out "meat, fish, or vegan shroom-loaf?" cards.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 11:04 AM (Dc2NZ)

Gonna have to do something on the side for the Koreans, but that is a good point.

Thank you

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 11:09 AM (WyVLE)

427 If you guessed Ivy League schools, you got it in one!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2020 11:04 AM (hku12)

Could've guessed that just by watching The Good Shepherd.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at November 08, 2020 11:10 AM (5FCda)

428 What fundraising site is being used?

donaldjtrump.com

I hate Winred but we fight with the weapons we have, not the ones we wish we had.

On another note: why is it that FOX Biz (Maria, Lou, etc) is able to keep The Signal going and FOX News is utterly disintegrating?

Monday's Tucker is going to be one for the record books I think.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:10 AM (3P/5p)

429 Holy crap, Mittens dropped to his knees so fast, he probably broke the sound barrier.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 11:05 AM (mjBut)

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He's positively Bushian in his zeal to embrace defeat.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 08, 2020 11:06 AM (wPVhA)

Defeat?

He won. The Bushes won. Half the Republican Party won. it's back to business as usual, baby, and business is good!

The four year nightmare is over, the whole of the world's elite breathe a sigh of relief. The people have been pushed back into their holes where they belong, and ANY uppity person who dares challenge the World Order again, well, Trump's punishment is just beginning. There's a lesson that must be learned here.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2020 11:10 AM (hku12)

430 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)
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Suggest a Planet of The Apes theme wedding. Then you'll never be asked to do anything important ever again.

Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2020 11:11 AM (Izzlo)

431 Defeat?

He won. The Bushes won. Half the Republican Party won. it's back to business as usual, baby, and business is good!

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Good point. You're absolutely right.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 08, 2020 11:11 AM (wPVhA)

432 391 Time for some brainstorming. I'm trying to come up with an equivalent of "Epstein didn't kill himself" for the election fraud. Something simple that cuts to the point and is easily distilled in memes.

Any ideas?
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 08, 2020 10:59 AM (LZ7Gl)

"Biden didn't... go, you know the Thing"

Posted by: josephistan at November 08, 2020 11:11 AM (Izzlo)

433 391 Time for some brainstorming. I'm trying to come up with an equivalent of "Epstein didn't kill himself" for the election fraud. Something simple that cuts to the point and is easily distilled in memes.

Any ideas?
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 08, 2020 10:59 AM (LZ7Gl)

Biden Didn't Win.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 08, 2020 11:11 AM (jK8Z7)

434 Then he exposes everything Brennan, et al., have
done to the world, then he exposes what they've done here. He concludes
by explaining to the world how they are all better off, collectively,
with a strong, neutral, honest U.S., which is what he wants too.
True International Pressure
Posted by: SFGoth at November 08, 2020 11:07 AM (KAi1n)

Then maybe he talks about which countries' elections this tech has been used for in the last 20 years

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 11:12 AM (WyVLE)

435 HAHA Lin Wood just tweeted this out:

https://tinyurl.com/y5w27mxk

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:12 AM (O3/K+)

436
You have to stop the fraud before the fraud happens.

In which case you have no evidence of fraud.

Brilliant.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:12 AM (3P/5p)

437 Any ideas?

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 08, 2020 10:59 AM (LZ7Gl)

#NotMyPedophile

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 11:12 AM (WyVLE)

438 226 It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

(and yes, this is your chance to bust my chops after the snark from me)
Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

Pre-nup.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 08, 2020 11:12 AM (nakwk)

439 >> Biden Didn't Win.

Too wordy. TRUMP WON or BIDEN LOST. Easier for the LIVs to understand.

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:12 AM (O3/K+)

440 There's a video on the Twatters of peeps in NYC giving thumbs up and cheering a USPS truck. They're just running our noses in it now.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 11:12 AM (22mNy)

441 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 11:04 AM (Dc2NZ)

Damn. Wish you were our wedding consultant.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 08, 2020 11:13 AM (7Y5nA)

442 You have to stop the fraud before the fraud happens.

In which case you have no evidence of fraud.

Brilliant.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:12 AM (3P/5p)

a worthy trade off unless I am missing something.

Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 11:13 AM (mbITn)

443 Wedding?

Slap a hot iton

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 08, 2020 11:13 AM (eLYXt)

444 433 391 Time for some brainstorming. I'm trying to come up with an equivalent of "Epstein didn't kill himself" for the election fraud. Something simple that cuts to the point and is easily distilled in memes.

Any ideas?
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 08, 2020 10:59 AM (LZ7Gl)

Biden Didn't Win.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 08, 2020 11:11 AM (jK8Z7)
________

Be patient. "Biden didn't kill himself."

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 11:14 AM (7X3UV)

445 Spent some time comfort reading this week.

Rereading. the The Rediscovery of Man: The Complete Short Science Fiction of Cordwainer Smith. This collection is published by NESFA Press and edited by James A. Mann.

So many of my favorite stories are in here.
"Scanners Live in Vain"
"From Gustible's Planet"
"Think Blue, Count Two"
"The Crime and the Glory of Commander Suzdal"
"Golden the Ship Was-Oh! Oh! Oh!"
"A Planet Named Shayol"
and the "Casher O'Neill" stories.

One big draw, embedded in sparkling stories is the long-lasting government, the Instrumentality of Mankind. It is shown as far-sighted, powerful, corrupt but successful, with strong internal discipline. Unlike today.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 08, 2020 11:14 AM (u82oZ)

446 Joe Xiden

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 11:15 AM (22mNy)

447 @436

Exactly.

Trump was tough, but he was not ruthless.

His opponents were ruthless.

Ruthless beats tough everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 08, 2020 11:15 AM (ue8j3)

448 Slap a hot iton
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 08, 2020 11:13 AM (eLYXt)
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How do we know if the Iton is hot or not? And why should we slap her?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 08, 2020 11:15 AM (xRn8c)

449 Its going to be fun watching the LIVs scratch their heads when the news cycle this week focuses on recounts, and illegal votes. The same people who told them Biden won now have to explain that nothing's really official, yet.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:16 AM (AwPyG)

450 408 Well 5,000 words into NaNoWriMo project which means I am about 5,000 words behind target. Hopefully will start picking up the pace.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 08, 2020 11:04 AM (eLYXt)

When I did NaNoWriMo, I did a spreadsheet with the daily quota (2000 words/day) vs. actual. Doing 2000 words/day means you can take 5 days off and still get done. Very important to not fall too far behind. Hang in there!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 08, 2020 11:16 AM (PiwSw)

451 a worthy trade off unless I am missing something.

Posted by: Quint
The Department of Pre-Crime doesn't exist yet as far as I know.

Stop the fraud? WHAT fraud? You have nothing. And he fraudsters tweak their approach and do it again. No.
You set them them up and catch them in the act.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:16 AM (3P/5p)

452 That task force or whatever Joe Xiden is creating is just for show. Corona is over, as we all predicted would happen right after the election.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 11:16 AM (22mNy)

453 kindltot
Congratulations on the upcoming wedding.
I agree with most of the keep it simple crew but.
My last wedding was by a guy in a wedding chapel in Gatlinburg, TN.
He was also the photographer. He sounded like Rush, had very bad breath and while I don't blame that failure of a marriage on him, it was doomed from the start.
Ah well. I've had 50 years of disappointing women so there's that.

Posted by: Winston dreg of society at November 08, 2020 11:16 AM (XedVG)

454 I think someone recommended "Devolution," by Max Brooks, and I read it this week. Really a nail biter and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It's also a nice satire of the techno-hippie mindset which crumples when faced with a true natural disaster. Recommended.

Posted by: Dr Alice at November 08, 2020 11:16 AM (1FcNW)

455 What "a" hole does this...IBM in RTP does it all the time.

Posted by: JD at November 08, 2020 11:16 AM (7/kmB)

456 @444
the winner!

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:17 AM (AwPyG)

457 Trump was tough, but he was not ruthless.

His opponents were ruthless.

Ruthless beats tough everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 08, 2020 11:15 AM (ue8j3)

The Democrat Party is a criminal organization. It's run like the mob including killing people

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2020 11:17 AM (mPbc8)

458 One big draw, embedded in sparkling stories is the long-lasting government, the Instrumentality of Mankind. It is shown as far-sighted, powerful, corrupt but successful, with strong internal discipline. Unlike today.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 08, 2020 11:14 AM (u82oZ)
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"Enter the bribes into the record, and mark the record 'off the record.'"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 08, 2020 11:17 AM (xRn8c)

459 449 Its going to be fun watching the LIVs scratch their heads when the news cycle this week focuses on recounts, and illegal votes.

___

The news cycle will be about Joe Xiden's dogs and the new African-Indian-Canadian-Jamaican-American VP.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 11:17 AM (22mNy)

460
I'm glad you asked. What's the world's largest
stage? The U.N. General Assembly. The Media has to cover him and by that
I mean all the media in the entire world. Think about the optics of us
having to get video of our own President speaking within our own country
from outside this country.

Trump starts out with an overview of
our Constitution and election system, talks up the aspirational aspects
of our Constitution, etc., talks about peace breaking out in the world,
trade deals, etc. Then he exposes everything Brennan, et al., have done
to the world, then he exposes what they've done here. He concludes by
explaining to the world how they are all better off, collectively, with a
strong, neutral, honest U.S., which is what he wants too.

True International Pressure

Posted by: SFGoth at November 08, 2020 11:07 AM (KAi1n)

Trump is not going to the UN. It would make him look weak.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 08, 2020 11:17 AM (946rW)

461
Thank you

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 11:09 AM (WyVLE)

A bagpiper in the band is good luck.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 08, 2020 11:18 AM (7Y5nA)

462
Ruthless beats tough everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

Posted by: Thomas Bender

You are wrong on this. This fight had to happen. Fraud is notoriously difficult to prove in court.

You need bullet proof evidence and a parade of witnesses. And patience.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:18 AM (3P/5p)

463 Twitter is putting warnings on Trump's tweets and won't let them be RT'd, only quoted
so I'm quoting all with this comment addef:
Factcheck: TRUE

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 11:18 AM (nUhF0)

464 226. Make the wedding the bride wants, with small nods to the groom. Dont let relatives demand traditions and other stuff in the events that you do not want. Enjoy!

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 08, 2020 11:19 AM (svbBD)

465 So WTF was up with the 4 Seasons thing yesterday? I totally missed it and reading about it today. The left is on the floor laughing over it.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 11:19 AM (22mNy)

466
Monday's Tucker is going to be one for the record books I think.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:10 AM (3P/5p)

I doubt it. Tucker is already looking past Trump.

Posted by: DAK at November 08, 2020 11:19 AM (PtOP4)

467 A thought for everyone's consideration:

If someone sees, "Batch of votes yields 100,000 Biden, 0 Trump" or "Glitch causes 6,000 votes to switch from Biden to Trump", most people's brains go, "Hmm. That doesn't make sense. There's a problem there". Their brain immediately understands and accepts that there is a problem.

If someone sees, "Scorecard!!!" or "Benford's Law!!!", most people don't know what those things are. Best case- they start evaluating information about Scorecard or Benfords Law. It's easy for a lot of people to look at this things and go, "Great. More crackpot conspiracy theories" because evaluation of the 'how' takes precedent over the obvious facts that these things attempt to explain.

Shorter version: It is of almost zero importance to explain how they committed large scale voter fraud. What is of critical importance is people seeing the clear, incontrovertible irregularities and forcing the Biden campaign to to explain them.

Hint: They can't explain theses things and the more they try, the less credible them become.

Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2020 11:19 AM (YDPU/)

468 UN? srsly?

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 08, 2020 11:20 AM (oAY8z)

469 "A Planet Named Shayol"

Oh yeah the one with ears growing everywhere and the Captain turned into a giant foot.

That one was trippy.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:20 AM (3P/5p)

470 At least commie uga lost again.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 08, 2020 11:20 AM (XN4C4)

471 Dr. Alice
I read Devolution and loved it.
Great read and the characters could be people I know.
I'm also very familiar with the scene of the action, south of Mt Rainier, and it fits well with some caveats.
He has the village south of Rainier but the actual area he describes and the projected lahar, is mostly north of the mountain.
It will happen and it will be bad as he describes.

Posted by: Winston dreg of society at November 08, 2020 11:21 AM (XedVG)

472
Hint: They can't explain theses things and the more they try, the less credible them become.

Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2020 11:19 AM (YDPU/)

Dems are not forced to explain things.

Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 11:21 AM (mbITn)

473 461
Thank you

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 11:09 AM (WyVLE)

A bagpiper in the band is good luck.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 08, 2020 11:18 AM (7Y5nA)

Really?

Posted by: Donny Two Scoops at November 08, 2020 11:22 AM (Izzlo)

474 467 A thought for everyone's consideration:

If someone sees, "Batch of votes yields 100,000 Biden, 0 Trump" or "Glitch causes 6,000 votes to switch from Biden to Trump", most people's brains go, "Hmm. That doesn't make sense. There's a problem there". Their brain immediately understands and accepts that there is a problem.

If someone sees, "Scorecard!!!" or "Benford's Law!!!", most people don't know what those things are. Best case- they start evaluating information about Scorecard or Benfords Law. It's easy for a lot of people to look at this things and go, "Great. More crackpot conspiracy theories" because evaluation of the 'how' takes precedent over the obvious facts that these things attempt to explain.

Shorter version: It is of almost zero importance to explain how they committed large scale voter fraud. What is of critical importance is people seeing the clear, incontrovertible irregularities and forcing the Biden campaign to to explain them.

Hint: They can't explain theses things and the more they try, the less credible them become.
Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2020 11:19 AM (YDPU/)
_________

Talked to a math teacher friend, & he just said "They all failed Algebra II."

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 11:22 AM (7X3UV)

475 One thing that's somewhat gratifying is seeing the columnists at PJ media and Instapundit getting their butts fried for posting stories and opinions of " We'll get' em next time, chaps" and the musing over poltical machinations during the "Biden administration"

Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at November 08, 2020 11:22 AM (UFgOG)

476 442 You have to stop the fraud before the fraud happens.

In which case you have no evidence of fraud.

Brilliant.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:12 AM (3P/5p)

a worthy trade off unless I am missing something.
Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 11:13 AM (mbITn)

I see what he's saying. Stop it beforehand, and they're free to try again. Trump instead chose to start building his case beforehand, warning us that there would be massive amounts of fraud, so he'd have a stronger case after it happened, and a shot at actually making people pay for it once he's vindicated. And, those people would not be in a position to hamstring him during his second term.

He went with the high-risk, high-reward option rather than the low-risk, low-reward option.

I pray that it pays off for him, and I know I'm not alone in that.

We also know that he has not had the full cooperation of federal law enforcement; he may well have tried to get the ball rolling on the "safe" approach, for all we know.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 08, 2020 11:23 AM (H3MF8)

477 If someone sees, "Batch of votes yields 100,000 Biden, 0 Trump" or "Glitch causes 6,000 votes to switch from Biden to Trump", most people's brains go, "Hmm. That doesn't make sense. There's a problem there". Their brain immediately understands and accepts that there is a problem.

If someone sees, "Scorecard!!!" or "Benford's Law!!!", most people don't know what those things are. Best case- they start evaluating information about Scorecard or Benfords Law. It's easy for a lot of people to look at this things and go, "Great. More crackpot conspiracy theories" because evaluation of the 'how' takes precedent over the obvious facts that these things attempt to explain.

Shorter version: It is of almost zero importance to explain how they committed large scale voter fraud. What is of critical importance is people seeing the clear, incontrovertible irregularities and forcing the Biden campaign to to explain them.

Hint: They can't explain theses things and the more they try, the less credible them become.
Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2020 11:19 AM (YDPU/)

All well and good.

But the Pavlovian 'Orange Man Bad' hatred smothers all logic before it

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 08, 2020 11:24 AM (oAY8z)

478 Shorter version: It is of almost zero importance to explain how they committed large scale voter fraud. What is of critical importance is people seeing the clear, incontrovertible irregularities and forcing the Biden campaign to to explain them.

Hint: They can't explain theses things and the more they try, the less credible them become.
Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2020 11:19 AM (YDPU/)

____

Trump needs to fight this on 2 fronts. 1 is the legal front where Benford's law and other statistical analysis comes into play. The other is a PR front with simple to understand things like magically 100K votes came in for Biden.

Sadly though the PR front sucks right now.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 11:24 AM (22mNy)

479 I feel a little like the bunny in the Schiell cartoon up top.

I've always heard such wonderful things about the Grant memoir. Thanks for mentioning it in comment @52. Ordered and will be delivered this week. Goes in my nightstand pile.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 08, 2020 11:24 AM (ZKXrk)

480 475 One thing that's somewhat gratifying is seeing the columnists at PJ media and Instapundit getting their butts fried for posting stories and opinions of " We'll get' em next time, chaps" and the musing over poltical machinations during the "Biden administration"
Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at November 08, 2020 11:22 AM (UFgOG

Good. What a bunch of wimps.

Posted by: Marybeth - Trump won! at November 08, 2020 11:24 AM (4pK1/)

481 On Newsmax yesterday they had a discussion forum. 3 lefties, 3 Cons. There is no way to reason with those douches.. They are delusional and arrogant. 'Trump wouldn't compromise'. I despised every one after about 5 minutes. The cons were pissed. One said "you better get ready for the Resistance, just like you did to us".

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 08, 2020 11:24 AM (7Y5nA)

482 @462

I agree the fight has to happen but your never going to get a court to subscribe to the notion that there was widespread systemic fraud in a Presidential election.

The time to do something about it was before the election.

Not after the election.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 08, 2020 11:24 AM (ue8j3)

483 473 461
Thank you

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 11:09 AM (WyVLE)

A bagpiper in the band is good luck.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 08, 2020 11:18 AM (7Y5nA)

Really?
Posted by: Donny Two Scoops at November 08, 2020 11:22 AM (Izzlo)
________

One of my college roommates got married, and both families being really into being Scots, they actually had pipes at the reception. Including both the fathers.

Her father had said to the caterer "He's got a bunch of college friend coming. Double the alcohol."

Fun.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 11:25 AM (7X3UV)

484
One thing that's somewhat gratifying is seeing the columnists at PJ media and Instapundit getting their butts fried for posting stories and opinions of " We'll get' em next time, chaps" and the musing over poltical machinations during the "Biden administration"
Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at November 08, 2020 11:22 AM (UFgOG)

They're trying to put the old band back together.

Posted by: DAK at November 08, 2020 11:25 AM (PtOP4)

485 I'm sure this didn't go the way the bad guys planned. You can "declare victory" and suppress communications, but you've still got 70 million flag-waving people who already know you are the bad guys, based on past events, and they are not going to suddenly believe you.
Their propaganda campaign is only making it worse, IMO.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:25 AM (AwPyG)

486 Hello, y'all.

Who fires people just before Christmas?

iHeartRadio has done it for years. When the holiday rolls around, my fellow radio people used to joke, "I wonder who they'll fire this year?"

It's long since ceased being a joke.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, the other CW at November 08, 2020 11:25 AM (aommx)

487 Kindltot - Mrs. D and I had a relatively small wedding seven years ago, obviously prior to the time when Covid restrictions make small weddings almost mandatory. We invited a total of 50 people, and most of them managed to show up from all over the country. We did our ceremony and dinner all in one shot, in the same ballroom at a nice hotel. It was nice without being ostentatious, and we kept the cost to a few thousand bucks total.

It was Mrs. D's second wedding, so she didn't need the Grand Fairy Tale Wedding. I wanted something a step up from a judge's chambers, but otherwise didn't care about the details. People can spend way too much money on a wedding that could be better spent on things like house payments or retirement savings.

Posted by: PabloD isn't in a reconciliatory mood at November 08, 2020 11:26 AM (T2IeR)

488 Over here lining up some phat business deals, boss!

Posted by: Hunter Biden at November 08, 2020 11:26 AM (HO4gs)

489 I agree the fight has to happen but your never going to get a court to
subscribe to the notion that there was widespread systemic fraud in a
Presidential election.

Then we are already Venezuela and there was nothing left of America to salvage anyway.
I will get in line for the Trump camps with everyone else when the fight is over.

It ain't over.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:27 AM (3P/5p)

490 Lin Wood seems to know something.

https://tinyurl.com/y3xlg9v8

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:27 AM (O3/K+)

491 I've been avoiding politics this week for the sake of my health. No joke. Now that the book thread has made it's regular shift to political matters, I'm gone. Not a complaint or criticism, just my preference.

See folks on the food and gun threads later. Time for a nap after a restless night.

Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 11:27 AM (7EjX1)

492 It makes more sense to me now all those Democrats who had been saying Trump would not accept the results of the election or that he would
have to be taken out by force. It's as if they new this was going to
happen.
Although, I can't imagine that Trump would NOT concede if he loses all of the legal challenges. If so, do it Hillary style - concede, and then, a few months after inauguration, come back as a member of the new resistance.

That might be tricky, though, because of this "courtesy rule" that former presidents won't criticize the new president for a certain period of time. How long was it before Obama came out and started attacking Trump?

Posted by: sillyme at November 08, 2020 11:27 AM (RPGAd)

493 486 Hello, y'all.

Who fires people just before Christmas?

___

If money's an issue, wouldn't you rather be let go while you can still take presents back?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 11:27 AM (22mNy)

494 kindletot, I've read and heard that the more people celebrating your wefding with you, the better its chances

there are even studies

imo the most important aspects are the sacrament, the friends, the photos/ videos + for the memories to padd on to kids)

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (nUhF0)

495 One thing that's somewhat gratifying is seeing the columnists at PJ
media and Instapundit getting their butts fried for posting stories and
opinions of " We'll get' em next time, chaps" and the musing over
poltical machinations during the "Biden administration"

Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at November 08, 2020 11:22 AM (UFgOG)

Don't know if I'd count Stephen Kruiser among them.

Last night he tweeted to buy guns and ammo, and lots of it.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, the other CW at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (aommx)

496 My best suggestion is have a good photographer, it's worth the expense.
Your wedding picture is what everyone will see of you, when you are long gone from this world.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (AwPyG)

497 You need bullet proof evidence and a parade of witnesses. And patience.

Some Moron here posted a video the other night of a guy who did catch XiNN redhanded in real time showing an R candidates vote totals go down in real time. I should've bookmarked it, but didn't. Video is on Bitchute by somebody with a name that sounded like SGT or something similar.

Anyway, the guy recorded XiNN's coverage and was able to pause and rewind frame-by-frame and what happened was very fast and appears to be coordinated. If you didn't have that tech, you'd never have seen it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - TRUMP WON! #StoptheSteal at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (HaL55)

498 If Trump creates a new media operation he should spent 100% of his efforts going after RINOs.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (22mNy)

499 If you wait long enough everyone will disappoint you eventually. Fuck Netanyahu. I apologize to Nevergiveup for questioning his long time criticism of Bibi.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (2DOZq)

500 Looks like Young Kim has won in California, for the second Gop pickup on the State of Stalingrad

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (hdwhl)

501 I got laid off right before Christmas.

Unsurprisingly, I hated that fuckin' job, so I wasn't too torn up about it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2020 11:29 AM (XJipD)

502 494 kindletot, I've read and heard that the more people celebrating your wefding with you, the better its chances

there are even studies....

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (nUhF0)

Oh crap....

Posted by: Prince Harry at November 08, 2020 11:29 AM (PiwSw)

503 Monday's Tucker is going to be one for the record books I think.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:10 AM (3P/5p)

I wouldn't get my hopes up

Posted by: REDACTED at November 08, 2020 11:29 AM (R3uW8)

504
I see what he's saying. Stop it beforehand, and they're free to try
again. Trump instead chose to start building his case beforehand,
warning us that there would be massive amounts of fraud, so he'd have a
stronger case after it happened, and a shot at actually making people
pay for it once he's vindicated. And, those people would not be in a
position to hamstring him during his second term.

Exactly. And I agree on the two fronts point as well.

First and foremost Trump has to get to 270. There is some evidence overlap though and it's all related.

L Lin Wood is a monster lawyer who has fought and won against impossible odds. I tend to take him at his word.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:30 AM (3P/5p)

505 @494
Yes, the Catholic Church requires a community wedding, in front of the altar. (no resorts or forests allowed)
The idea is it is a community venture, and everyone is invested.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:30 AM (AwPyG)

506 The cons were pissed. One said "you better get ready for the Resistance, just like you did to us".
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 08, 2020 11:24 AM (7Y5nA)

The #Resistance controlled the permanent bureaucracy, the House of Representatives, the news media, Hollywood, the educational system, major corporations, the intelligence community, and even some of administration itself.

What can the right muster that's anywhere close to that?

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 08, 2020 11:30 AM (LZ7Gl)

507 Dems are not forced to explain things.
Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 11:21 AM (mbITn)

Agreed. And there is lies the problem. The question is, is it better to have a bunch of people Googling "What is Scorecard" or "County switched from Trump to Biden due to computer glitch. Are other counties effected?".

But the Pavlovian 'Orange Man Bad' hatred smothers all logic before it
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 08, 2020 11:24 AM (oAY8z)

Agreed. None of this matters to the indoctrinated. They don't matter. The "normies" do.

Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2020 11:30 AM (YDPU/)

508 Sup, y'all?

Posted by: Weasel at November 08, 2020 11:30 AM (MVjcR)

509 478Sadly though the PR front sucks right now

Well, we are not even in the battle field as of now when it comes to pr!!

Posted by: Floridachick at November 08, 2020 11:31 AM (XvEl1)

510 Late as always. Was laid off from a job of 11 1/2 yrs on 12/12/16. Took a year to find a decent job.

Posted by: Infidel at November 08, 2020 11:31 AM (32aJ9)

511 I apologize to Nevergiveup for questioning his long time criticism of Bibi.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (2DOZq)

Yeah...I apologized to him a couple of years ago.

But Netanyahu has to play realpolitik. Biden is a natural anti-Semite and has been anti-Israel for a long time. So Israel has to maintain at least the appearance of support for Biden in the hope that he will not revert to his natural state with as much glee as they fear.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2020 11:31 AM (xT2tT)

512 If Trump loses, he needs use the nixon strategy. Nixon was roobed in 1960 by cheating, then started to campaign for congressional republicans with great sucess and then the presidency.

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:32 AM (hdwhl)

513 Morning everyone.

**yawns**

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2020 11:32 AM (axyOa)

514 You need bullet proof evidence and a parade of witnesses. And patience.
_________

And bullet proof witnesses.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 11:33 AM (7X3UV)

515 499 If you wait long enough everyone will disappoint you eventually. Fuck Netanyahu. I apologize to Nevergiveup for questioning his long time criticism of Bibi.
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X1000 this.

Posted by: Ward at November 08, 2020 11:33 AM (nzKWW)

516 If Trump loses, he needs use the nixon strategy. Nixon was roobed in 1960 by cheating, then started to campaign for congressional republicans with great sucess and then the presidency.
Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:32 AM (hdwhl)
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You're assuming that Trump will be allowed to remain free and at large.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 08, 2020 11:33 AM (xRn8c)

517 My best suggestion is have a good photographer, it's worth the expense.
Your wedding picture is what everyone will see of you, when you are long gone from this world.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (AwPyG)

sounds like a racket to me. Now that i think about it, I don't think I have seen a single wedding picture of my folks. There must have been one or two but I didn't link it with a wedding. They had some portraits done but not in wedding attire.

To each his own I guess. Everybody Loves Raymond and other sticoms taught me that the best play is to do what the bride wants in this regard.

Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 11:34 AM (mbITn)

518 Posted by: JTB at November 08, 2020 11:27 AM (7EjX1)

Understandable that the discussion would turn to the most important event in our lifetime. I would also like to whistle past the graveyard but it is what it is.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 11:34 AM (2DOZq)

519 Israel needs fighter plane money. They could care less about pudding head Biden. Israel is scarred of Harris

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:34 AM (hdwhl)

520 @507
and 70 million "normies" are not very happy, right now.
A lot of people on twitter are speculating that this election was always planned to be the "take-down" of the deep state. It's pretty exposed, right now, in all its ugliness. If you'd said 2 months ago that Brett Baier and Chris Wallace were bad guys, the normies might not have believed you.

Now they do.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:34 AM (AwPyG)

521 "What can the right muster that's anywhere close to that?"

Truck drivers. If even a sizable minority of them went on a general strike for about a week, the country would grind to a halt.

Posted by: PabloD isn't in a reconciliatory mood at November 08, 2020 11:34 AM (T2IeR)

522 The #Resistance controlled the permanent bureaucracy, the House of Representatives, the news media, Hollywood, the educational system, major corporations, the intelligence community, and even some of administration itself.

What can the right muster that's anywhere close to that?
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 08, 2020 11:30 AM (LZ7Gl)

___

We will only give Biden 90% of what he wants instead of 100%
- GOPe Resistance

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 11:35 AM (22mNy)

523 What can the right muster that's anywhere close to that?

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 08, 2020 11:30 AM (LZ7Gl)

Guns? I really don't believe the rally's will go away if Dementia Joe gets inaugurated. It will make the Tea Party look like well.. a tea party. I hope a permanent movement will come of this. Trump started something.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 08, 2020 11:35 AM (7Y5nA)

524 ------

You're assuming that Trump will be allowed to remain free and at large.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 08, 2020 11:33 AM (xRn8c)

The left will go after him and his family. No doubt about it. Someone challenged their power and corruption and that person must be destroyed.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2020 11:35 AM (mPbc8)

525 If Trump loses, he needs use the nixon strategy.
Nixon was roobed in 1960 by cheating, then started to campaign for
congressional republicans with great sucess and then the presidency.

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:32 AM (hdwhl)

the cheating is worse now and institutionalized. If the Repubs don't spend all political capital on changing this, then they are in for a world of hurt.

Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 11:35 AM (mbITn)

526 >>> 382 Sarah Hoyt. You know she's a Mormon guy, right?

uh...
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 10:57 AM (3P/5p)

iirc some dumbass leftist (birm) refused to believe she was who she says she is, and insisted she must be a Mormon male.

Now it's a running joke on her site.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 08, 2020 11:35 AM (OUT8G)

527 Gop needs to revenge the dems on all positions that require a senate vote. Slow walk them

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:35 AM (hdwhl)

528 Israeli PMs have to maintain a good relationship with US Presidents. Part of the job. At least on the surface anyway.

But I'm sure BN knows that we will soon help their enemies destroy them.

A lot of the diplomacy Trump and Netanyahu have pursued will help them get a head start realigning away from the US.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2020 11:35 AM (XJipD)

529 American Airlines.

Posted by: Kurtz at November 08, 2020 11:35 AM (0YZ6P)

530 >>> I agree the fight has to happen but your never going to get a court to subscribe to the notion that there was widespread systemic fraud in a Presidential election.
...

Agreed. Selling "widespread, systemic fraud" is virtually impossible. It is easier to make a case of actual, proven irregularities.

The point of going to court is people disagree on the answer but agree that there is a question.

To your point about 'before the election', that's a hard hill to climb. It's like pre-crime. It's much easier to point to the dead body on the floor and ask, "How this that get there?"

Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2020 11:36 AM (YDPU/)

531 Who fires people just before Christmas?

Posted by: Captain Whitebread, the other CW at November 08, 2020 11:25 AM (aommx)

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Maybe someone already answer this but politicians do.

After the election the new legislators gather, elect leaders and then pink slip the staff that isn't retained.

TFW your party retains majority but due to a change in leadership, they end of canning a bunch of loyal staff anyway for more nepotistic hires.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 08, 2020 11:36 AM (cfSRQ)

532 All Bibi had to do is shut the f*ck up. He couldn't even manage that. Biden will sell him out first. What a cuck. In the age of trump the masks just keep on a-fallin.

Posted by: Ward at November 08, 2020 11:36 AM (nzKWW)

533 'mornin' Weasel!
I too have been laid off at Christmas time, something to do with the end of the fiscal year.
Turns out it was a good thing, I hated that job. Plus I was being sexually harassed by my boss, a woman, and I was not accepting her advances, because I was newly married.
Probably why I got let go.
That was a long time ago, before sexual harassment was "a thing".

Posted by: attila the unready at November 08, 2020 11:36 AM (w7KSn)

534 Can I ask you a question? It looks like I am going to get married, do you have advice for a wedding?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 08, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

Aww, congratulations!

Don't do anything that makes one of you look like a deer in the headlights. As the size of our wedding increased, I got that look and my mom helped me scale it WAY back. (Sorry, MIL, love you!)

Avoid cutesy fads
That's it.

Happy-B-day to all the November 8'ers!

Posted by: Sal at November 08, 2020 11:36 AM (KTdeA)

535 Herman Muster?
Colonel Muster?

Posted by: db at November 08, 2020 11:36 AM (E0PSG)

536 Hi Weasel!

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 08, 2020 11:36 AM (nxdel)

537 One thing that's somewhat gratifying is seeing the columnists at PJ media and Instapundit getting their butts fried for posting stories and opinions of " We'll get' em next time, chaps" and the musing over poltical machinations during the "Biden administration"

Over there I've mostly seen Sarah Hoyt wanting to learn to fly a helicopter in order to start Air Pinochet, and both Stephen Kruiser and Reynolds himself have advocated buying ammo.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 08, 2020 11:36 AM (6XLoz)

538 526 >>> 382 Sarah Hoyt. You know she's a Mormon guy, right?

uh...
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 10:57 AM (3P/5p)

iirc some dumbass leftist (birm) refused to believe she was who she says she is, and insisted she must be a Mormon male.

Now it's a running joke on her site.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 08, 2020 11:35 AM (OUT8G)

I've had the pleasure of meeting Sarah Hoyt. She's a terrific lady.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 08, 2020 11:37 AM (H3MF8)

539 Herman Muster?
Colonel Muster?
Posted by: db at November 08, 2020 11:36 AM (E0PSG)

In the library?

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 11:37 AM (2DOZq)

540 We just saw our final traditional election night. We will move to everywhere having weeks of voting, universal mail in etc. it will give the Dems time to manufacture votes. This is perfect for them, and they wont be giving it back.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 08, 2020 11:37 AM (svbBD)

541 Gop needs to revenge the dems on all positions that require a senate vote. Slow walk them
Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:35 AM (hdwhl)

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McConnell didn't slowwalk anything for Trump. He flatly stopped his entire agenda.

He will come to heel like a thoroughly whipped dog for President Harris. Bank it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2020 11:38 AM (XJipD)

542 525. Well said. That is why need to use 2022, if biden wins, to really win the down ballot on state supreme courts, sos, and county recorders etc.... and they did start that already by winning the DA, and maricopa county races in AZ

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:38 AM (hdwhl)

543 But Netanyahu has to play realpolitik. Biden is a natural anti-Semite and has been anti-Israel for a long time. So Israel has to maintain at least the appearance of support for Biden in the hope that he will not revert to his natural state with as much glee as they fear.

Agreed. This is a reframe of one of the Left's attacks on Trump that I found the most infuriating, that he was being too nice to e.g. North Korea and it proved he loves dictators. No, it proves that you can make a deal a lot easier if you don't charge in denouncing one of the parties.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 08, 2020 11:39 AM (6XLoz)

544 511 I apologize to Nevergiveup for questioning his long time criticism of Bibi.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (2DOZq)

Yeah...I apologized to him a couple of years ago.

But Netanyahu has to play realpolitik. Biden is a natural anti-Semite and has been anti-Israel for a long time. So Israel has to maintain at least the appearance of support for Biden in the hope that he will not revert to his natural state with as much glee as they fear.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 08, 2020 11:31 AM (xT2tT)

Nations don't have friends, they have interests. Your post is correct -- Bibi is trying hard to limit the damage to Israel from a Biden-Harris Administration. He has probably asked, what is the downside if I'm wrong? Is Trump going to be anti-Israel in his second term? Of course not. So if you look at it from his point of view, this was completely predictable.

BoJo, on the other hand, was just stupid. The UK has a lot to lose.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 08, 2020 11:39 AM (jK8Z7)

545 541. Not judges

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:40 AM (hdwhl)

546 What can the right muster that's anywhere close to that?
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 08, 2020 11:30 AM (LZ7Gl)

Start small.
Get organized.
Select specific resistance targets to go after.
Isolate them. Publicize their wrong doing.
Make them accountable.
Move on to the next one.
Destroy the legitimacy of each target.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 08, 2020 11:40 AM (axyOa)

547 If Trump's team actually have the evidence they need, then they'd give the appearance of sitting on it for 2 reasons:

- It takes time to initiate legal shennanigans and make sure they're correct; judges and legislatures will pounce on any opportunity to pass the hot potato

- He was giving the Dems an opportunity to walk back from the brink. There is no small chance that, if he has the evidence, dropping it leads to war. Deals have been cut over fraud before, so it's not like there isn't precedent. I can't tell if the left coalition is doubling down or not; a lot of places started injecting weasel words like "projected to be" even after yesterday's call.

They spent all day yesterday frantically convincing people Biden had won, while the tech barons snorted rails and mashed the delete key. Trump on the other hand, went golfing.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at November 08, 2020 11:40 AM (EEVQU)

548 BoJo, on the other hand, was just stupid. The UK has a lot to lose.

BoJo's not fixable, he completely fucked up the Covid thing. Bring on Nigel Farage.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 08, 2020 11:41 AM (6XLoz)

549 Lin Wood - on fire today

https://tinyurl.com/y69gxgmj

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:41 AM (O3/K+)

550 We noticed on a hike yesterday that Covid had gone away. Bathrooms open in the park and yellow tape removed from around tables. Boy Joey B really went right to work!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 08, 2020 11:41 AM (7Y5nA)

551 McConnell didn't slowwalk anything for Trump. He flatly stopped his entire agenda.

He will come to heel like a thoroughly whipped dog for President Harris. Bank it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2020 11:38 AM (XJipD)
I question that. Maybe if you had some examples it would help. I don't think of McConnell as much of a pushover. if the Dems take office legally or otherwise, McConnell will be more powerful than ever. Sure he has not much of a personality. But I don't recall him stopping Trumps entire agenda. i do recall McCain and some others though.

Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 11:41 AM (mbITn)

552 Lin Wood implicating CIA 1

https://tinyurl.com/y4jshbmj

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:42 AM (O3/K+)

553 Biden will do this etc.. biden will
Not do anything, he does not even know what day it is,
And itrying to shit in his pants

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:42 AM (hdwhl)

554 Hmmm, not a lot of book talking going on. I guess I'm too late.

I'm looking at doing an essay comparing Waugh's Sword of Honour to Ford's Parade's End. Lots of similarities but also significant differences.

It will get my mind of politics for a while, because frankly I'm sick of it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 08, 2020 11:42 AM (cfSRQ)

555 BoJo has always been deep state. Most people knew it, and now we are seeing it on display.

Remember that historic election a year ago, when labor was wiped out and the Tories (conservatives) had an unprecedented margin of over 60 votes?
Absolutely nothing has happened to advance conservative causes. Nothing.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:42 AM (AwPyG)

556 Remember: UK and Israel have intelligence agencies, too. Unlike people here, they have enough info to know that the fix is in.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2020 11:42 AM (XJipD)

557 Lin Wood implicating CIA 2

https://tinyurl.com/y3ytqffv

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:42 AM (O3/K+)

558 544 There was no down side to Bibi just waiting until the process is over. By your logic Bibi should have endorsed biden/ Harris before the election. Bibi is closet cuck!

Posted by: Ward at November 08, 2020 11:42 AM (nzKWW)

559 BoJo's not fixable, he completely fucked up the Covid thing. Bring on Nigel Farage.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 08, 2020 11:41 AM (6XLoz)

This.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at November 08, 2020 11:43 AM (5FCda)

560 LOLGF!

Posted by: Barr at November 08, 2020 11:43 AM (HO4gs)

561 Agreed. This is a reframe of one of the Left's attacks on Trump that I found the most infuriating, that he was being too nice to e.g. North Korea and it proved he loves dictators. No, it proves that you can make a deal a lot easier if you don't charge in denouncing one of the parties.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 08, 2020 11:39 AM (6XLoz)

Yeah, this drove me nuts too.

You can't walk away from a table that you never sat down at.

It seemed like they stopped learning after Obama got beat up over the "without preconditions" thing and the new line was "I am not talking to anyone unless they agree with me in advance!". That is not what "preconditions" means.

The naivety of the left is boundless.

Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2020 11:43 AM (YDPU/)

562 Trump was 16 and at military school when Adlai Stevenson kicked the
Soviets in the nads at the UN on October 25, 1962. What was the UN
going to be able to do about the Cuban Missile Crisis? Not a
poll-darned thing. That wasn't the point.

Trump is going to turn the most of the entire world against Joe Biden and the Democrat party by revealing everything they've done. The only way to do that is to go the UN (because that's where you get all the international coverage) and the UN is in New-Fracking-York, bitches.

Trump's going to the USSC too, obviously. The UN is simply waking the world up and bringing the cavalry. And he'll be doing it through the UN. Go script me a better Hollywood (classic Hollywood, 40's and 50's) ending.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 08, 2020 11:43 AM (KAi1n)

563 Can or will Clarence Thomas hold out for another 4 years? Biden is the person who tests Thomas's faith the most in regard to forgiveness. I believe / guessing Thomas despises Biden and constantly prays to ask forgiveness for this hate.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 11:43 AM (2DOZq)

564 442 You have to stop the fraud before the fraud happens.

In which case you have no evidence of fraud.

Brilliant.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 08, 2020 11:12 AM (3P/5p)

a worthy trade off unless I am missing something.

Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 11:13 AM (mbITn)

Not necessarily. If you just prevent the fraud without nailing the fraudsters, they'll just try again next time, only with more clever plans.

Better to draw them out, let them do their dirty work, let them think they succeeded, and then SMACK!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 11:43 AM (mjBut)

565 They spent all day yesterday frantically convincing people Biden had won, while the tech barons snorted rails and mashed the delete key. Trump on the other hand, went golfing.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at

And took a picture with a surprised bride.

Posted by: Infidel at November 08, 2020 11:43 AM (32aJ9)

566 Mitch was A+ on Trump judges. For that he will always have my thanks.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 11:43 AM (22mNy)

567 McConnell didn't slowwalk anything for Trump. He flatly stopped his entire agenda.

He will come to heel like a thoroughly whipped dog for President Harris. Bank it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2020 11:38 AM (XJipD)

100 percent disagree. Ryan slowwalked the agenda in the House in the first 2 years, and then in the second 2 there was no point in getting anything through the House. The Senate was never a factor in anything legislatively, except for McCain's treachery on the Obamacare repeal. McConnell has a lot more power as the blocker than he has as the facilitator for President Harris. He should make the D's give a pound of flesh for every single Cabinet position, judge nomination, and continuing resolution.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 08, 2020 11:44 AM (jK8Z7)

568 Good point. You're absolutely right.

====

He is good at regurgitating other people's point.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2020 11:44 AM (zr5Kq)

569 549 Lin Wood - on fire today

https://tinyurl.com/y69gxgmj
Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:41 AM (O3/K+)

Not sure pissing off the head justice is a good strategy.

Posted by: Spypeach at November 08, 2020 11:44 AM (Up/Jb)

570 563. Thomas is likely to die in the court.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 08, 2020 11:44 AM (svbBD)

571 Wall Street wanted Biden, but a Gop senate. They love divided govt. that is when they get to keep tax cuts, but then get stimulus. That is why trump voters should cash in any stimulus money, and hide it or buy gold. Why help wall street with a new car

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:45 AM (hdwhl)

572 >> Posted by: Barr at November 08, 2020 11:43 AM (HO4gs)

Harmeet Dhillon on this guy

https://tinyurl.com/y4ast2hu

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:45 AM (O3/K+)

573 @551
Remember Mitch made sure there was never a "recess" so that Trump could make recess appointments.

I'd love to find out the deal they made to get the judges through. Maybe Trump promised not to prosecute him for his corruption. But then why was he stymied at every other turn?

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:45 AM (AwPyG)

574 My only election comments:
1) this is thievery plain and simple
2) it will stand
3) all the 'national guard was watching', statistical evidence, state legislatures will send republican electors, etc. etc. reminds me of the Clinton campaign after Trump won. Didn't happen then, won't happen now.
4) I hope I'm wrong.

Posted by: Who knew at November 08, 2020 11:45 AM (SfO/T)

575 Well, bye for now.

I hope that by next week we'll still be allowed books.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 08, 2020 11:45 AM (7X3UV)

576 Thomas is younger than bidet.

Posted by: runner at November 08, 2020 11:46 AM (zr5Kq)

577
Posted by: Spypeach at November 08, 2020 11:44 AM (Up/Jb)

I'm just the messenger

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:46 AM (O3/K+)

578 @565
Now, there's a wedding picture for the ages!

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:46 AM (AwPyG)

579 @realDonaldTrump 2h

"We believe these people are thieves. The big city machines are corrupt. This was a stolen election.

Best pollster in Britain wrote this morning that this clearly was a stolen election, that it's impossible to imagine that Biden outran Obama in some of these states.

...Where it mattered, they stole what they had to steal. what they had to steal.
@newtgingrich

Posted by: Braenyard at November 08, 2020 11:46 AM (CZm2G)

580 A bunch of comments upthread about "fraud should have been stopped before it happened" and "courts won't overturn"

To be blunt, if those are true statements then there was no point to bothering with an election.

MPPP was then right, and we all spent months participating in theater. Also 70 million Trump voters did the same.

We now know the levels the Dems were willing to go to to win. If there is any saving grace, it took our enthusiasm and turnout to make the marginal fraud that could be hidden turn into blatant fraud that anyone can see.

This was going to happen. Trump hoped they wouldn't go this far, but they did.

So the only way we ever had available to win this election is through the courts. This was always going to be the case, as we have now learned.

Now we get to see if state legislatures and SCOTUS are patriots or not. The one thing we have going for us is that every one of the people who will decide this has been attacked and slandered by the Democrats. Notably including Clarence Thomas.

By Joe Biden personally.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 08, 2020 11:47 AM (IzLAj)

581 Not necessarily. If you just prevent the fraud
without nailing the fraudsters, they'll just try again next time, only
with more clever plans.

Better to draw them out, let them do their dirty work, let them think they succeeded, and then SMACK!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at November 08, 2020 11:43 AM (mjBut)

yeah, do both imo. I think I missed the context of the argument, which is nothing new. My point was if we prevent the fraud in the first place, we won't have to catch them later. But you can do both things. Prevent the fraud and also catch those who want to commit fraud.

Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 11:47 AM (mbITn)

582 I'm just the messenger
Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:46 AM (O3/K+)

I was referring to Lin wood

Posted by: Spypeach at November 08, 2020 11:47 AM (Up/Jb)

583
I agree the fight has to happen but your never going to get a court to

subscribe to the notion that there was widespread systemic fraud in a

Presidential election.

-----------

Bullshit... Thomas, Alito, ACB, Gorsuch and Kavanaugh are seeing the same things we are.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 08, 2020 11:48 AM (946rW)

584 I know Spypeach

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:48 AM (O3/K+)

585 Scott Adams discussed how trying to prove "widespread, systemic fraud" is impossible. Instead, focus on individual cases of specific fraud.
There are half a dozen of those, easily.

Posted by: attila the unready at November 08, 2020 11:50 AM (w7KSn)

586 Posted by: Who knew at November 08, 2020 11:45 AM (SfO/T)

I will see your hope and raise you certainty. You are wrong.

Posted by: db at November 08, 2020 11:50 AM (E0PSG)

587 Tucker's Monday show will either be a real scorcher, or about kitties, delicious vegan cake recipes, and Cathy Areu's advice how to cope with loss.

Posted by: Bon Scott at November 08, 2020 11:50 AM (adO8x)

588 If Trump pulls this out you don't think he will remember how Netanyahu abandoned him at the most crucial time? He not only accepted and congratulated Biden. He went on to suck his dick.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 08, 2020 11:51 AM (2DOZq)

589 When the dems had the senate under nixon and Bush 1, they would hand them a list of any that they would approve for Scotus. That is how we ended with the awful Brennan, Burger, Stevens , and Souter. Even Kennedy under Reagan, after he lost the senate. A couple were good, like Rehnquist and Thomas, but it was hell to get them confirmed

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:51 AM (hdwhl)

590 569 549 Lin Wood - on fire today

https://tinyurl.com/y69gxgmj
Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:41 AM (O3/K+)

I don't think Wood would infer such a thing about Roberts unless it were true.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 08, 2020 11:51 AM (CZm2G)

591 And think about the bigger picture, too. After this mess, how can the dems not (reluctantly) agree to massive election reform?
Sometimes you got to step back, and let everyone see what's what. I'm sure the good guys knew what was coming (remember Trump's "4 am votes" comment happened just before three states mysteriously received 4 am votes)

but now the public has seen it with their own eyes, and are ready to reform this crazy late ballot nonsense.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:51 AM (AwPyG)

592 Some Moron here posted a video the other night of a guy who did catch XiNN redhanded in real time showing an R candidates vote totals go down in real time.

the guy recorded XiNN's coverage and was able to pause and rewind frame-by-frame and what happened was very fast and appears to be coordinated. If you didn't have that tech, you'd never have seen it.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - TRUMP WON! #StoptheSteal at November 08, 2020 11:28 AM (HaL55)

Here's the link: https://tinyurl.com/yyebkdp4

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 08, 2020 11:51 AM (8/7u2)

593 Wow, missed it in the election bullshit.

Kyle Rittenhouse was extradicted. Bail set at 2 MILLION dollars.

Under WI law, apparently bail is not set by a Judge, but a commissioner, and Spokesmen for victims get to talk at that 'hearing'.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 08, 2020 11:51 AM (NgKpN)

594 Lin Wood - on fire today

https://tinyurl.com/y69gxgmj
Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:41 AM (O3/K+)

Not sure pissing off the head justice is a good strategy.
---------------

You have to expose him to take away the leverage of the blackmail. Otherwise he is still being controlled.

Posted by: Ward at November 08, 2020 11:52 AM (nzKWW)

595 @589
that was in filibuster times, though. How funny that Harry Reid is hoist by his own petard

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:52 AM (AwPyG)

596 whoa Megyn

@megynkelly
Level 1:
No. Half of the country has been demonized as awful for four years just for supporting their president who was falsely accused of Russian collaboration, wrongly impeached & attacked relentlessly by the L & a dishonest media. And now it's "let's heal!" "Unity!" Good luck.

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 08, 2020 11:52 AM (nUhF0)

597 Look at the BS Twitter alert on this - zero OFFICIAL sources called this race

https://tinyurl.com/y274zjcq

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:52 AM (O3/K+)

598
100 percent disagree. Ryan slowwalked the agenda in the House in the first 2 years, and then in the second 2 there was no point in getting anything through the House. The Senate was never a factor in anything legislatively, except for McCain's treachery on the Obamacare repeal. McConnell has a lot more power as the blocker than he has as the facilitator for President Harris. He should make the D's give a pound of flesh for every single Cabinet position, judge nomination, and continuing resolution.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 08, 2020 11:44 AM (jK8Z7)

You can't be serious. If democrats are allowed to get away with stealing away a Trump land slide victory there will be nothing they can't get away with. Biden will just start installing who he wants to without senate approval.

Posted by: DAK at November 08, 2020 11:53 AM (PtOP4)

599 But I don't recall him stopping Trumps entire agenda. i do recall McCain and some others though.
Posted by: Quint at November 08, 2020 11:41 AM (mbITn)

-------

2016-2018. 75pc of bills from the GOP House died on the floor of the Senate he controls with an iron fist. He stopped all of it. And I don't buy for one second he wasn't aware of McCain's planned betrayal.

He spent the entire Obama administration and 2018 working against any conservative who dared run for Senate. He is a Deep State crony, and he doesn't bother hiding it. He prefers Dems to conservatives in a very forthright manner, and now that the own America in perpetuity he'll be less inclined than ever to hamper his friends across the aisle.

His vaunted judges will react similarly.

The rage against Trump and the promised reckoning for his supporters and voters you hear from the Conservative Media Ecosystem™ will happen rapidly and he will enthusiastically participate.

Anyone who believes the GOP will stand athwart Harris is in for a nasty shock.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2020 11:53 AM (XJipD)

600 Well 5,000 words into NaNoWriMo project which means I am about 5,000 words behind target. Hopefully will start picking up the pace.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Give it hell Anna !

Posted by: JT at November 08, 2020 11:53 AM (arJlL)

601 Go script me a better Hollywood (classic Hollywood, 40's and 50's) ending.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 08, 2020 11:43 AM (KAi1n)

It's not originally my idea -- radio host Michael Berry pointed out a few years ago that PDT is a reality show producer and creates drama around everything. But taking that insight,

Season One started with the ride down the escalator and ended with Election Night 2016.
Season Two started with the Inauguration and ended with losing the House in the midterms, introducing a villain for Season Three, Nancy Pelosi.
Season Three started with the new House in session and ended with the Kavanaugh vote (introducing the character Brett Kavanaugh, who will be prominent in a future season).
Season Four started with the Kavanaugh vote and ended with the defeat of Nancy Pelosi's impeachment.
Season Five started after the impeachment , ran through the 2020 campaign, and will end with Brett Kavanaugh voting in the Supreme Court to exclude Milwaukee County, Wayne County, and Philadelphia County from the election returns, the rejection of Nancy Pelosi as speaker by her own caucus, and end with the reading of the Electoral College count in the joint session of Congress boycotted by the Democrats.
I can't wait for Season Six.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 08, 2020 11:53 AM (jK8Z7)

602 Tucker is a company man, as is hannity and ingraham. They will not say a damn thing. F them

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 11:53 AM (hdwhl)

603 "Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, you need to convict this man of murder! Sure, he didn't actually kill anyone yet, but that doesn't matter! You can tell he's a murderer just by looking at him! And have you seen all the knives in his kitchen? No one needs that many knives! If he used each knife for murder only once, he would be a mass murderer! It is only a matter of time until he gets angry enough to go on a killing spree!"

Pre crime only makes sense to the FBI when the MI governor needs a distraction from her state Supreme Court ruling against her.

Posted by: Damiano at November 08, 2020 11:53 AM (YDPU/)

604 I saw Drag the Pudding open for Run the Jewels at Coachella in '16.

Good morning! Sunday morning!

Barely. I've been power-washing an old fence all morning. Should be finished before December. Then I'll stain it.

Oh, and TRUMP WON.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 08, 2020 11:54 AM (OssQ4)

605 Not sure pissing off the head justice is a good strategy.

If Roberts is being blackmailed into making un-Constitutional decisions, we need to know it.

I'm fairly certain that in the coming weeks, we're going to see the band-aid being ripped off. And what's underneath will not be pretty, but it absolutely has to be done if we are to remain a free people.

This is the hill to die on. We didn't pick it, our enemies did.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 08, 2020 11:55 AM (HaL55)

606 DJ. one of these tweets from Lin Wood is very strange:

He either has the goods and is ready to reveal them or blackmail someone

or

he's gone completely off the rails which doesn't sound like him.

Lin Wood
@LLinWood
Do you think that anyone flying on Jeffrey Epstein private jet or visiting his private island might be compromised or is it just me?

Who is the John Roberts on Epstein flight logs?

REVIEW NAMES ON EPSTEIN FLIGHT LOGS!!!

Every lie will be revealed.

#FightBack for TRUTH

11:29 AM Nov 8, 2020 Twitter for iPhone

Posted by: Marybeth - Trump won! at November 08, 2020 11:55 AM (4pK1/)

607 Has Don Trump Jr been thrown off Twitter? I just went there and searched for him but no luck..just a couple of parody

Posted by: AnnaS at November 08, 2020 11:55 AM (l4l/z)

608 "100 percent disagree. Ryan slowwalked the agenda in
the House in the first 2 years, and then in the second 2 there was no
point in getting anything through the House. The Senate was never a
factor in anything legislatively, except for McCain's treachery on the
Obamacare repeal. McConnell has a lot more power as the blocker than he
has as the facilitator for President Harris. He should make the D's give
a pound of flesh for every single Cabinet position, judge nomination,
and continuing resolution.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 08, 2020 11:44 AM (jK8Z7)"

Turtle is a puzzle. It's hard to attribute his actions to any one motivation, and therefore hard to tell what those motivations are.

For example - don't forget the usual Antifa/BLM cancel mobs tried to physically assault his wife. That turned out to be unwise - her security detail essentially had to save them from her - but there are several ways that could motivate him, regardless of whose side he's on.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at November 08, 2020 11:56 AM (EEVQU)

609 Posted by: Marybeth - Trump won! at November 08, 2020 11:55 AM (4pK1/)

My thoughts exactly... I was actually wondering if someone had gotten control of his account but I am just hoping they have all the goods.

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:56 AM (O3/K+)

610 I know I'm guilty of it too, but the folks complaining about the politics creeping into the Book Thread are right.

The book, pet, and gardening threads are oases of calm. Maybe we ought to keep the politics in the previous thread.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 08, 2020 11:56 AM (Dc2NZ)

611 No justice for the coup plotters or Hunter.

And now a fraudulent and stolen election.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at November 08, 2020 11:56 AM (HO4gs)

612 Drag the Pudding 101: I have a cousin married to a Bond Broker that used to work for Shearson Leaman. Their Christmas parties were an annual act of cleaning house. At the end of the year the company would look at each individual's production and decide to keep them or let them go. If you were being kept you got a good percentage of your annual production as your "Christmas Bonus".....but if the company decided to let you go, your Christmas Bonus would be an insult, based on your monthly salary. Knowing this, every employee would show up with 2 different Christmas Cards for their supervisor signed and sealed in their Jacket Pockets. One was basically "Thank you so much for the opportunity this year and you're the best Boss on the planet...Merry Christmas!" and the other was "You f*ing piece of slime, you can't fire me because I quit!" During the course of the Christmas Party every employee would be taken aside and handed a Christmas Card by their supervisor. The employee would read it and the amount it contained for their Christmas Bonus, then decide which envelope to pull out and hand their boss. As you can expect....it wasn't all bells and mistletoe at their office Christmas Party.

Posted by: Mr Obvious at November 08, 2020 11:56 AM (k+h+d)

613 >>>Anyone who believes the GOP will stand athwart Harris is in for a nasty shock.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2020 11:53 AM (XJipD)
------------------------

Aye

Posted by: Braenyard at November 08, 2020 11:57 AM (CZm2G)

614 Don Jr. is still on Twitter

Posted by: DJ at November 08, 2020 11:57 AM (O3/K+)

615 593...

Victims? Those creatures Rittenhouse killed were actual Nazis!

Posted by: PacosMojo at November 08, 2020 11:57 AM (F8bEJ)

616
A few related things worthy of the sidebar or if people can image, rename and tweet. gnews.org/534248/
https://archive.is/RakSt https://tinyurl.com/y67g5ul3

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 08, 2020 11:58 AM (r+sAi)

617 Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 08, 2020 11:44 AM (jK8Z7)"

Turtle is a puzzle. It's hard to attribute his actions to any one motivation, and therefore hard to tell what those motivations are.

For example - don't forget the usual Antifa/BLM cancel mobs tried to physically assault his wife. That turned out to be unwise - her security detail essentially had to save them from her - but there are several ways that could motivate him, regardless of whose side he's on.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at November 08, 2020 11:56 AM (EEVQU)

I wasn't basing that comment on Cocaine Mitch as an individual. I was just analyzing what power is inherent in his position under a Harris Administration. Cooperation gains nothing for him.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 08, 2020 11:58 AM (jK8Z7)

618 Roberts was never going to vote our way.
Remember the Calif church case re: Covid? It was rushed to the USSC very quickly, where Roberts was the deciding vote to say, "if a governor decides to rescind all your civil rights during a pandemic, it is none of the court's business"
This was a set-up for the coming election fraud, and upholding the governors' orders about mail in ballots. It can't be more obvious that this was the end game.
Which only feeds my theory that RBG had been dead for awhile, and the left was keeping her "alive" to vote on the coming election case, upholding the late mail in ballots that contradicted state's laws.

When the court spokesman announced that RGB had died, it threw them into a scramble, and their carefully laid plan was ruined.

Posted by: artemis at November 08, 2020 11:58 AM (AwPyG)

619 Hey, I'm suddenly hearing a bunch of stuff about "hammer and scorecard." Is this some sort of crazy bullshit designed to make us look foolish or legit?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 08, 2020 12:00 PM (7o4Oo)

620 From the content:

Has this ever happened to you? In my career, I was laid off many times, but never at Christmas. I've known some people who have, though, and I can't help asking, "what kind of a-hole company does this?"

Raises hand. I know such a place. Out of the blue after more than 25 years being there. About a year ago now. This year they did it before Thanksgiving - just last week.

Posted by: Hans O'Lo at November 08, 2020 12:00 PM (u7pQw)

621 PDT going scorched earth! Win or lose it needs to be done!

Posted by: Ward at November 08, 2020 12:01 PM (nzKWW)

622 Is this some sort of crazy bullshit designed to make us look foolish or legit?
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 08, 2020 12:00 PM (7o4Oo)

Yes

Posted by: Braenyard at November 08, 2020 12:01 PM (CZm2G)

623 Nood.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at November 08, 2020 12:01 PM (iEx0u)

624 Trump keeps saying fraud, stolen election, etc. But still so far nothing specific. You can't win the PR war like this.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 08, 2020 12:02 PM (22mNy)

625 Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 08, 2020 12:00 PM (7o4Oo)

For the time being, safest to go with the former.

Posted by: db at November 08, 2020 12:02 PM (E0PSG)

626 "I wasn't basing that comment on Cocaine Mitch as an
individual. I was just analyzing what power is inherent in his position
under a Harris Administration. Cooperation gains nothing for him.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 08, 2020 11:58 AM (jK8Z7)"

Yeah, I mean - nobody can really pin down what he wants, let alone what he'll do with the bowl of lemons he might be handed.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at November 08, 2020 12:02 PM (EEVQU)

627 Anecdata for why Trump needs to release a bombshell if he has one - my wife, who granted has evolved into a human dishrag in regards to personality - just wants to give it to Biden now to get the mess over with. She simply can't mentally process all the innuendo and implications.

She is, frankly, a dumb ass. But also typical of her kind. Dumbed down over the last decade - visibly so. Yet - Trump will need support from those like her if he is to build the popular will needed to win this.

Monday will be critical.

Posted by: English Lycanthrope at November 08, 2020 12:02 PM (zoiGB)

628 Really interesting read on InstaPundit: https://gnews.org/534248/

Posted by: Mr Obvious at November 08, 2020 12:02 PM (k+h+d)

629
I worked for a company in the mid-80's that was sold to 2 guys from New Jersey. After a year and a half or so, they called a company-wide meeting 2 weeks before Christmas. We thought we were going to get a Christmas bonus. They told us they had sold us to a local competitor who wanted our locations but not the employees, and we were jobless as of that night.

Posted by: Happy at November 08, 2020 12:04 PM (JG0oy)

630 You guys are right, it's the book thread, and none of this shit matters more than a fart in a hurricane, anyway. I'll desist.

I've been enjoying "Bloodlands." Highly recommend. Full disclosure: I'm not done yet, so the end might suck.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2020 12:05 PM (XJipD)

631 As far as books.... last read was Galileo's Daughter. Got a coworker to read Capitalism and Freedom by Milton Friedman. Spurred some interesting discussions. Looking for the next thing... Maybe some Sowell...

Posted by: Hans O'Lo at November 08, 2020 12:08 PM (u7pQw)

632 Hubby was fired the day before Thanksgiving 2008 right after Obama was elected, which started a cascade of foreclosure, bankruptcy, and owing beaucoup bucks to the US government because we had to use our 401k to stay alive (we still had 3 kids in school). I so look forward to what I am sure will be Obama v2.0 in the next 4 years if they manage to steal this election.

Posted by: Rana at November 08, 2020 12:09 PM (dntzX)

633 Hey, I'm suddenly hearing a bunch of stuff about "hammer and scorecard." Is this some sort of crazy bullshit designed to make us look foolish or legit?
Posted by: Farmer Bob

I get the same queasy feeling like it's just something for the rubes to get excited about and be mocked for when it turns out to be vapor...and then I hear Sidney Powell talk about it. She's on the team and no joke, and if she's talking about it...it seems like it's legit, to me.

*shrug*

But wtf do I know, I'm always wrong.

Posted by: El Superbeasto (Not a Good German) at November 08, 2020 12:09 PM (1Jot5)

634 619 Hey, I'm suddenly hearing a bunch of stuff about "hammer and scorecard." Is this some sort of crazy bullshit designed to make us look foolish or legit?
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 08, 2020 12:00 PM (7o4Oo)

The only reason I would give this ANY more than a passing thought WHATSOEVER is because Sidney Powell talked about it on Fox Business. Why she would risk her reputation on a hugely embarrassing hoax makes no sense.

Not going to get excited about it. but taking a wait and see attitude.

Concentrate on solidifying state wins through recounts, audits, and the courts.

If it's real, all the better. It will come out soon enough.

Posted by: Marybeth - Trump won! at November 08, 2020 12:13 PM (4pK1/)

635 Yeah, I know we're all speculating here, but in 20 years of practicing law, I've never heard "you have to wait until we file our lawsuit to tell you what our proof is" until yesterday.

Facts are facts.
Proof is proof.
Evidence is evidence.

Filing a lawsuit can't change that.
And, if you really have the proof, so does the bad guy.

So? What's the real play going on here?

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 08, 2020 12:13 PM (aO8Gd)

636 100 percent disagree. Ryan slowwalked the agenda in the House in the
first 2 years, and then in the second 2 there was no point in getting
anything through the House. The Senate was never a factor in anything
legislatively, except for McCain's treachery on the Obamacare repeal.
McConnell has a lot more power as the blocker than he has as the
facilitator for President Harris. He should make the D's give a pound of
flesh for every single Cabinet position, judge nomination, and
continuing resolution.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 08, 2020 11:44 AM (jK8Z7)

Same old Caeser... there is not and will not be a President Biden.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 08, 2020 12:14 PM (946rW)

637 Yeah, I know we're all speculating here, but in 20
years of practicing law, I've never heard "you have to wait until we
file our lawsuit to tell you what our proof is" until yesterday.

Facts are facts.

Proof is proof.

Evidence is evidence.

Filing a lawsuit can't change that.

And, if you really have the proof, so does the bad guy.

So? What's the real play going on here?

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 08, 2020 12:13 PM (aO8Gd)

I don't know where you practice law but, even not being a lawyer, I have seen plenty of instances where one side or the other kept things close to their chest so the other side did not have time to fix the issue they were raising.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 08, 2020 12:16 PM (946rW)

638 Just to clarify the coattails of trump on the down ticket. In 2010 when the Gop won 63 house seats, not won was a pickup in california. We have 2 aleady in 2020

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 12:20 PM (hdwhl)

639 Parler needs some big cash. This phone number thing on every post is brutal. If trump dumped twitter and went there, it would be a massive IPO

Posted by: Jonah at November 08, 2020 12:24 PM (hdwhl)

640 "I'm thinking I need to liquidate portfolio tomorrow and just sit on it
until this is over. I believe Trump's perview that a Biden admin means a
depression like never before. Anybody here have any thoughts? What
about Tech stocks since they are Dem run?"

It all depends on the Georgia run-offs. If Cocaine Mitch retains control of the Senate, then nothing radical will happen during the next two years. If not, then expect all hell to break loose.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 08, 2020 12:34 PM (S6ArX)

641 I started hearing excuses for the GOP's "unexpected" downticket successes yesterday. "Well, you know, it's a sign of how divided the GOP is on Trump. A lot of Republicans voted for their party, but not for Trump. He's so divisive, see?"

Except... what actually happened is the exact opposite. They got millions of votes with only Biden selected, no downticket candidates. It's right there in the vote totals; Biden outperformed the rest of his party bigly. The vast majority of people who voted for Trump voted straight-ticket Republican, and this is reflected in the vote totals.

Trump enjoys an amazing 90%+ approval rating within his party. Probably more than that with the "shy Trump" element factored in.

The "Biden-only" ballots are likely 99% fake. They needed to be filled out in a big hurry, and there was no time to be concerned with downticket races.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 08, 2020 12:35 PM (H3MF8)

642 My meme: Biden Cheats

Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 08, 2020 12:36 PM (l72Ps)

643 My company was bought and absorbed by a larger corporation which came down on 10 December to hear about out profitable year just before our Xmas party. They then announced they are shutting the whole company down as of 1 January and will be offering meager compensation packages to the 250 employees.

Party was not festive at all.

Posted by: Distant Observer at November 08, 2020 12:37 PM (Tn7Oy)

644 Something to consider: I expect Jill Biden to want to reprise Edith Wilson's role as the caretaker and go-between, and de-facto decision-maker, for a mentally incapacitated president. So, when the time comes to 25-amendment Slow Joe, will Jill Biden go gracefully? Somehow, I doubt it. Her and Harris will have the cat-fight to end all cat-fights - and Cocaine Mitch will hold the key to it all. What could he demand from Harris in return for his going along with Slow Joe's removal from office? It could be very interesting.

Of course, all this depends on the Repubs winning at least one of the Georgia run-offs.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 08, 2020 12:38 PM (S6ArX)

645 >>> If Roberts is being blackmailed into making un-Constitutional decisions, we need to know it.
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Roberts is 100% exactly what the Republican Party stands for. He is an exemplary "Republican." They have everyone backstabbed PDT every step of the way.

Even after all of this, people, even here, don't understand the most basics things. smfh

Posted by: Gilded at November 08, 2020 12:43 PM (AiRsH)

646 Alex Trebek has passed Probably already been said

Posted by: grammie winger at November 08, 2020 12:55 PM (gm3d+)

647 >>>and Cocaine Mitch will hold the key to it all
---

The same spam-sewer-filth Mitch who passed the entire Trump agenda in 2017-18? That's not dope up his nose. And that's not his nose.

Posted by: Gilded at November 08, 2020 12:56 PM (AiRsH)

648 I've been enjoying "Bloodlands." Highly recommend. Full disclosure: I'm not done yet, so the end might suck.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 08, 2020 12:05 PM (XJipD)

I'm glad you're enjoying, which is a strange adjective for such horrible content, such a well narrated book. Snyder taking a regional approach explains what happened there more effectively than concentrating on individual countries; not that they didn't have differing particulars but the commonalities were overwhelmingly. I think it's essential to understand that to understand what the area is like today.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 01:00 PM (y7DUB)

649 Simple wedding is most promising, agreed. My parents' living room, only both families, 54 years this last August.

Posted by: empire 1 at November 08, 2020 01:18 PM (vluYu)

650 So? What's the real play going on here?

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 08, 2020 12:13 PM (aO8Gd)

1. GOP state legislatures in the 5 states betray PDT
2. SCOTUS betrays PDT
3. House GOP betrays PDT

Done. TV doesn't vote.

Posted by: Gilded at November 08, 2020 01:26 PM (AcsI+)

651 Back in '93 our hospital hired a CEO whose only real talent was stringing large, meaningless words together. He was horrible at virtually every other aspect of his job. As Christmas rolled around, he and his "C-suite' became alarmed at the hospitals finances and decided to layoff 76 people out a employee population of less than 200, many of the the newest nursing hires that we on the medical staff begged , borrowed and stole to get to come to this semi-rural town. After the bloodshed and the holidays, it was discovered, and unsuccessfully covered up, that his CFO had misplaced the decimal point in the billing software for for 15 minute increments of surgical time. This resulted, in very low, but also recoverable re-imbursements for the large volume of surgeries that we had been doing, before the layoffs. In spite of this, our "do nothing" board allowed this idiot to stay almost 11 years. We had to replace 4 board members in order to "resign" him..

Posted by: Michael Christian at November 08, 2020 01:33 PM (aFw7/)

652 >>>Simple wedding....

1. Run away to Italy, just you two, and get married in a beautiful place and in a relatively corruption-free country (lol).

2. Move to Poland and make babies.

Posted by: Gilded at November 08, 2020 01:34 PM (AcsI+)

653 o, yeah, it IS the book thread!

Reading Fielding's Tom Jones with Mrs Gilded. Reading the same book at the same time is fun.

Great novel. Get the Wesleyan edition with the original spelling and punctuation (used paperbacks abound): it amplifies the pleasure. Marry someone who likes books.

Posted by: Gilded at November 08, 2020 01:42 PM (AcsI+)

654 My prediction: After Biden is inaugurated the MSM will find plenty of Biden corruption. Voila! The Marxist from California, President Kamala Harris.

Posted by: Zoltan at November 08, 2020 02:37 PM (qb8uZ)

655 Tom Jones is a hilarious book but I'm sure its sheer length drives a lot of people off. Too bad because it's very much worth the effort.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2020 03:28 PM (y7DUB)

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