Poll Workers Gave Sharpies to Voters In Trump Districts.<br>Sharpie Marks Do Not Read on Optical Scanners, So Thousands of Trump Votes Were Made Invisible.

Poll Workers Gave Sharpies to Voters In Trump Districts.
Sharpie Marks Do Not Read on Optical Scanners, So Thousands of Trump Votes Were Made Invisible.

Matt Schlapp says this was done extensively in Trump precincts in Arizona.

Update:

@colvinj
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Donald Trump wins 2nd Congressional District in Maine.

I was not given a ball point pen. They only had sharpies at my polling station. Why the fuck would they only have sharpies if they don't work? The website wont let me check my vote. Pima county claims you can only check once all ballots have been checked. https://t.co/54eYuvPNgK
— Adam Crigler (@AdamCrigler) November 4, 2020

AZ update: apparently the use of sharpie pens in gop precincts is causing ballots to be invalidated. Could be huge numbers of mostly Trump supporters. More to come
— Matt Schlapp (@mschlapp) November 4, 2020

Posted by: Ace at 12:58 PM

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1 Same thing where I voted. They gave everyone thin sharpies. WTH.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 12:59 PM (PsI+X)

2 First

Posted by: james at November 04, 2020 12:59 PM (PvswE)

3 I didn't even know some of these tricks existed, and I consider myself very informed.

Posted by: trev006 at November 04, 2020 01:00 PM (4m3T9)

4 Dirty deeds and they're done dirt cheap

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at November 04, 2020 01:00 PM (ifmtJ)

5 Btw, I'm in PA.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:00 PM (PsI+X)

6

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 04, 2020 01:00 PM (K2SnJ)

7 Also, why the fuck don't people have their own pens?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at November 04, 2020 01:00 PM (ifmtJ)

8 Seriously hanging Chad 2 electric boogaloo

Posted by: james at November 04, 2020 01:00 PM (PvswE)

9 3 I didn't even know some of these tricks existed, and I consider myself very informed.
Posted by: trev006 at November 04, 2020 01:00 PM (4m3T9)

They invent new ones as needed.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM (Zm+LZ)

10 Perfect.

Posted by: Strelnikov at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM (hKi6n)

11 So this is why when I was presented a paper ballot at my polling place, I said I wanted to use the touch screen system.
The worker said to me: "They take too long".
Me: I want to use the touch screen.

It took me about 2 and a half minutes to vote on the touch screen, then another minute or so to scan the paper ballot it generated.
I'm not saying that our precinct gave us sharpies, because they didn't...I just think the paper ballots are unreliable because even if you go outside the lines they don't work.

Posted by: kallisto at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM (DJFLF)

12 FIGHT THIS ALL TO THE END.

EVERY BIT OF IT.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM (jUVms)

13 Adam flew to Az to vote. Dedication.

Posted by: nip at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM (yoqcZ)

14 Holy shit! They gave us felt tip markers to use in Somers NY. Is that ink no good too?

Posted by: Iblis at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM (t/Ya5)

15 If this is the case, a manual recount will rectify things, no?

Posted by: Ersatz at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM (zuVZw)

16 Also, why the fuck don't people have their own pens?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at November 04, 2020 01:00 PM (ifmtJ)

I had one in my purse. They attached a sharpie to every folder containing the ballot. So the obvious assumption would be that is what one was supposed to use.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM (PsI+X)

17 It is the duty of nations...to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins...with assured hope that genuine

repentance will lead to mercy...The awful calamity of civil war..may be but a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins." Lincoln continued: "We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven...We have grown in numbers, wealth and power as no other nation has ever grown. But we have

forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious Hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own." Lincoln concluded: "Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us! It behooves us then to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins and to pray for...forgiveness"

Posted by: ObsidianKnife at November 04, 2020 01:02 PM (j7HVM)

18 >>>7 Also, why the fuck don't people have their own pens?

the girl in the video said poll workers were TAKING pens from the voters and giving them sharpies.

Posted by: ace at November 04, 2020 01:02 PM (PbpT7)

19 I've never seen people work so hard to kick-start a modern civil war they're not even remotely prepared for.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 04, 2020 01:02 PM (o3eXo)

20 Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your
Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 12:59 PM (PsI+X)
If you're in Montco, alert their GOP head, I can't recall her name but she is effective. She already has one lawsuit in progress and I think got a Fed judge to stop an illegal practice there.

Posted by: kallisto at November 04, 2020 01:02 PM (DJFLF)

21 Wait till the sharpie ballots are found to be incinerated already. Good times.

Posted by: nip at November 04, 2020 01:02 PM (yoqcZ)

22 Why would they give out Sharpies if they knew they didn't work?

OOOH, OOHH, I know, **waves hand**

This is bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2020 01:02 PM (iLThc)

23 Btw, I'm in PA.

We had the same, but they did give them to everyone. I think we were a slight Hillary precinct last time. (a lot of people fleeing for the countryside and bringing their votes with them)

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2020 01:03 PM (/2aWP)

24 Indelibly Corrupt.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2020 01:03 PM (U6FY4)

25 SHOW ME YOUR FUCKING WAR FACE

Posted by: ghost of kari at November 04, 2020 01:03 PM (Z4LGO)

26 We need to get better at our Fraud Operations. We really were outsmarted on that op...

Posted by: Marcus T at November 04, 2020 01:03 PM (VpIIl)

27 Radio news that Biden won all in ME !?

Posted by: Floridachick at November 04, 2020 01:03 PM (p5V57)

28 Jeff Flake would like to concede and re-establish norms.

Please clap.

Posted by: nip at November 04, 2020 01:03 PM (yoqcZ)

29 They invent new ones as needed.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM (Zm+LZ)

I believe that. Ah well, time to hand over 1000 gold and be declared General Who Exterminates Rebels.

Posted by: trev006 at November 04, 2020 01:03 PM (4m3T9)

30 Illinois as well. First time seeing them for an election.Wonder who figured out that low tech hack. They have a bright future in Leftist/Dem politics

Posted by: lady liberty at November 04, 2020 01:03 PM (zjwe/)

31 Fake news! President Rapist will do a thorough investigation once he is sworn in.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 04, 2020 01:04 PM (u610O)

32 >>the girl in the video said poll workers were TAKING pens from the voters and giving them sharpies.

They'd get a ballpoint in the eye if they tried that.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2020 01:04 PM (U6FY4)

33 Listen, people...for next time:

Way before election day go on your state's voter info page to learn which systems are being used in your county. I would have never known the touch screen option was available had I not done the research ahead of time.

At my precinct, if they'd wanted to just hand out sharpies, the people would have used them! and the guy who checked me in didn't even tell me the touch screen was available, I had to demand it.

Posted by: kallisto at November 04, 2020 01:04 PM (DJFLF)

34 God help me, SHARPIEGATE?

Well it IS 2020.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Losing My Mind at November 04, 2020 01:04 PM (8YFRI)

35 Who'd've thought sharpies would be part of the kickstart to the Second Civil War?

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2020 01:04 PM (/4vtq)

36 My God... it's full of fraud!

Posted by: Dave Bowman at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (XpDOS)

37 the girl in the video said poll workers were TAKING pens from the voters and giving them sharpies.
Posted by: ace at November 04, 2020 01:02 PM (PbpT7)

That sounds really weird, who would hand over a pen, even if they were asked to?

Posted by: Sjg at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (gDSJf)

38 And ... the voting machine will not flag an "empty" ballot, only an over-voted one.

i.e. you voted for 2 candidates instead of 1 ...

Posted by: Adriane the Picked a Bad Time to File My Nails Critic ... at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (LPnfS)

39 They've been using sharpies at my precint in SD for years now. I wonder what kind of readers they use.

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (ynpvh)

40 I'm starting to wonder how many blue states are out there would actually be purple or red without the fraud.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Losing My Mind at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (8YFRI)

41 So many ways to cheat! And if you try to reform things, the States--even the Republican ones-- start screaming that you can't do that.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (0D/p/)

42 It's almost like there was some kind of coordinated effort to suppress votes from an entire class of people. If only there were some LEA that could look into this.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (YAr5m)

43 If you're in Montco, alert their GOP head, I can't recall her name but she is effective. She already has one lawsuit in progress and I think got a Fed judge to stop an illegal practice there.

Posted by: kallisto at November 04, 2020 01:02 PM (DJFLF)

Will do, thanks!

Are you in PA? I didn't even know we could use a touchscreen. I commented yesterday that we had moved to paper ballots unlike before.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (PsI+X)

44 The Detroit Fraud Machine is apparently now kicking in (albeit late) for Gary Peters. James' lead there is down to under 20k votes according to the (otherwise currently useless) DDHQ.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (4Yddh)

45 SD = San Diego

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (ynpvh)

46 By any means necessary. If Trump loses this because of rampant fraud, the nation is lost. Elections are pointless.

They've gotten what they wanted, which was to destroy the system. We're an embarrassment as a nation because we can't count our damned votes.

What our betters in the ruling class have in store for us is going to make the entire nation into a gulag. Green energy, yay! No more meat! Trannies in every bathroom! Social credit scores to make sure you only think correctly.

We're Communist China now.

Posted by: grizzledocoastie at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (FMgad)

47 The extent of the fraud this cycle is absolutely amazing.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (sX1BW)

48 Do the McCains own a sharpie factory?

Posted by: Inogame at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (+2xjH)

49 AZ says they will read, they just bleed through, and force the ballots to be counted by hand. They will count every ballot where they can determine voter intent.... like the dimpled chads.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (u610O)

50 I thought high-capacity bullet point Sharpies were illegal in AZ.

Posted by: some guy out west at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (XpDOS)

51 This is simple enough to do. Simply hand count all ballots where a Sharpie was used and piss off on any lawyer tricks on invalidating them.

Count them all.

Posted by: Drider at November 04, 2020 01:06 PM (R/UH9)

52 44
The Detroit Fraud Machine is apparently now kicking in (albeit late) for
Gary Peters. James' lead there is down to under 20k votes according to
the (otherwise currently useless) DDHQ.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (4Yddh)

Official MI SOS site is also useless. Is about 2M votes behind what I see elsewhere. WTF?

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

53 >>The extent of the fraud this cycle is absolutely amazing.

Thanks!

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 04, 2020 01:06 PM (U6FY4)

54 Brought my own ballpoint. Didn't want to touch "used" pens.

Posted by: 496 at November 04, 2020 01:06 PM (INPZ+)

55 Sharpies will not work with a scanner because they dry to a matte finish, ball point pens and graphite pencils leave a mark that has sheen and reflectivity and can be picked up by a scanner.

This is such fucking bullshit, I can't even.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2020 01:06 PM (iLThc)

56 And you, to whom adversity has dealt the mortal blow
With smiling bastards lying to you everywhere you go
Turn to, and put out all your strength of arm and heart and brain
And like the Mary Ellen Carter, rise again!

Rise again! Rise again!
Though your heart it be broken and life about to end
No matter what you've lost, be it a home, a love, a friend
Like the Mary Ellen Carter, rise again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhop5VuLDIQ

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 04, 2020 01:06 PM (xRn8c)

57 In an effort to protect the integrity of our electoral process I will take a pass on this.

Posted by: Snack Barr at November 04, 2020 01:06 PM (2L5A1)

58 Unintentional, I'm sure...uh-huh.

Posted by: BignJames at November 04, 2020 01:06 PM (AwYPR)

59 Don't worry, they will give Biden crayons to sign bills.

Posted by: some guy out west at November 04, 2020 01:06 PM (XpDOS)

60 Yay! Manual recount!

The Chad Shall Hang Again!

Posted by: 29Victor at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (BJKQV)

61 Jeff Flake would like to concede and re-establish norms.

Please clap.
Posted by: nip at November 04, 2020 01:03 PM (yoqcZ)

Stunning and Brave, so principled too! Almost Romney-esque!

Posted by: Lucky Pierre Delecto (R-UT) at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (/4vtq)

62 Same where we voted in Michigan, Sharpies only.

Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (9UmRs)

63 Only an idiot would believe this.

Matt Schlapp? Ok, makes sense

Posted by: Champ at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (X3EqQ)

64 MICHIGAN

The 128,000 vote guy has now retracted that tweet:

Will Chamberlain Retweeted

Matt Mackowiak
@MattMackowiak
This tweet was taken and share honestly. I have now learned the MI update referenced was a typo in one county.

I have deleted the original tweet.

Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (PwDhe)

65 I thought the problem with Sharpies was bleed through from one side to the other. I think AZ had a two-sided ballot paper in some places at least (down ballot races, local judges, whatever on the back). Optical scanner should be able to read any dark mark that an eye can see (they just reflect regular light off the paper to read it), but bleed through in the wrong spot might mess things up. But probably they offset the ballot columns on front and back side to account for this problem, but maybe not.

Posted by: OpinionChecker - because FactChecking is no longer enough at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (dYe5S)

66 Are you in PA? I didn't even know we could use a
touchscreen. I commented yesterday that we had moved to paper ballots
unlike before.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your
Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (PsI+X)Yes, Delco.
The systems used are not uniform throughout the state. If you go on VotesPA.com, access the Voter Systems link, then there's a dropdown for the counties. You choose Montco and they will tell you which systems are used there.
I can't imagine you don't have high tech there.

Posted by: kallisto at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (DJFLF)

67 The margin of fraud is wider than the Grand Fucking Canyon.

Posted by: some guy out west at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (XpDOS)

68 Fuckers.

This cannot stand

Posted by: Oddnot, finding there are limits at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (olSQG)

69 Sharpies could be a problem based on ballot design. My ballot here in CA was so designed so that the areas with bubbles on one side lined up with text on the other side, not over other bubbles. Don't tell me AZ couldn't get that right?

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (ynpvh)

70 Oh this only really happened in gop Leaning districts?
Wow. What a coincidence.

Posted by: brak at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (cG+eD)

71 Also, why the fuck don't people have their own pens?

Didn't need pens last time. Also, it's hard to assume I'm coming face-to-face with criminals in my own little township.

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM (B2mhs)

72 Per the radio news "Tech stocks way up."
Payoff? Who are the buyers?

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at November 04, 2020 01:08 PM (48RE5)

73 By any means necessary. If Trump loses this because of rampant fraud, the nation is lost. Elections are pointless.

They've
gotten what they wanted, which was to destroy the system. We're an
embarrassment as a nation because we can't count our damned votes.

------------

I think this will be our finest hour.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2020 01:08 PM (sX1BW)

74 Did Ted Wheeler lose to the Antifa candidate?

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 04, 2020 01:08 PM (xPl2J)

75 >>Same where we voted in Michigan, Sharpies only.

Do people not know that Markers don't work well (if at all) with scanners?

I brought a pen with me. Always do.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2020 01:08 PM (U6FY4)

76 Dems found to be cheating more than ever ... should be more embarrassing than masturbating on a live chat (if they had any shame) ... and the consequences will be the same ... a pat on the back, maybe promotions?

Posted by: illiniwek at November 04, 2020 01:08 PM (Cus5s)

77
The amount of cheating was historic.

Even then the stories Ace tells make it even worse.

It was stolen, and China OWNS the Bidens and Kamala.

If they steal our voting system, they will have no problem stealing our lives and our property.

War is coming. Prepare yourself.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2020 01:08 PM (sy5kK)

78 This is rage-stroke inducing ...

And why do they do it? Because they can, are rewarded for doing so, and continue to get away with it.

Posted by: ShainS at November 04, 2020 01:08 PM (4Zr0J)

79 Ted won in Portland.

Posted by: lizabth at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (L3Rsz)

80 Don't the ballot machines in these states let you know when your vote is recorded? In my home state once you put the paper in the machine the screen says your vote has been counted or something.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (8MbUB)

81 Official MI SOS site is also useless. Is about 2M votes behind what I see elsewhere. WTF?
Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

Well the MI SOS is a Democrat, so...

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (4Yddh)

82 Then again, if sharpies are problematic...maybe my votes over the years haven't been counted?

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (ynpvh)

83 Ted won in Portland.

Posted by: lizabth at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (L3Rsz)

Thanks. So they are only a little less screwed than they otherwise would've been.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (xPl2J)

84 Kallisto, they had instructions posted and I read them. Nothing about a touch screen option or what type of pen to use.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (PsI+X)

85 McSally's faults aside, this might explain how Chinese pegging enthusiast and gun grabber Mark Kelly won in a state that has more guns than cactus.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (o3eXo)

86 Per the radio news "Tech stocks way up."
Payoff? Who are the buyers?
Posted by: random lurker commenter at November 04, 2020 01:08 PM (48RE5)

Big Tech's gonna run the country now. Bullish.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:10 PM (4Yddh)

87 Really would like someone to flesh out how the Sharpie conspiracy gets executed in any practical manner.

Posted by: Champ at November 04, 2020 01:10 PM (X3EqQ)

88 i'm in PA, used a ball point pen. But my district is majority Repub. I asked why no machines, "Oh, that was changed a couple years ago."
Must have been shortly after 2018, used machine for that election.

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at November 04, 2020 01:10 PM (48RE5)

89 How the hell do sharpies not work on an optical scanner?

Were these sharpies not black? That's the ONLY way I see optical scanners misbehaving. If they're looking for something that's not "white or black in a specific location", we need to NOT call them "optical scanners", or at least explain the functional mechanism that's used to "optically" find a marked spot.

Posted by: Harry'sNotHere at November 04, 2020 01:10 PM (oVQqg)

90 Fucking War with these assholes...

Posted by: Tentotwo at November 04, 2020 01:11 PM (PhAkB)

91 Holy shit! They gave us felt tip markers to use in Somers NY. Is that ink no good too?
Posted by: Iblis at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM

It depends. In my hometown we've used felt tip pens on the ballots for years. No problems. In my new town, we have ball point. It might depend on the machine.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 04, 2020 01:11 PM (ejd/p)

92 I consider myself a high information voter. I did not know that sharpies don't read in optical scanners.

Posted by: Archer at November 04, 2020 01:11 PM (gmo/4)

93 >>Were these sharpies not black? That's the ONLY way I see optical scanners misbehaving. If they're looking for something that's not "white or black in a specific location", we need to NOT call them "optical scanners", or at least explain the functional mechanism that's used to "optically" find a marked spot.

They work on reflection.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2020 01:11 PM (U6FY4)

94 5
Btw, I'm in PA.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your
Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:00 PM (PsI+X)

----------------------------

Same here, super-thin sharpie markers (although they weren't branded as Sharpie)

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 04, 2020 01:11 PM (+3rQF)

95 They're not just cheating, they'e GLEEFULLY cheating. They derive sexual pleasure from the act of fraud.

Normal people like you and I falsely assume that when someone does a bad thing they know is wring, they are filled with shame and self-loathing.

But that is a naive view.

Bad people do not feel shame when doing bad things. They feel joy.

Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:11 PM (HEEq1)

96 Ted won in Portland.
Posted by: lizabth at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (L3Rsz)

Good, I guess.

Posted by: Surfperch at November 04, 2020 01:11 PM (/4vtq)

97 if what was described in the vid is right that is actually good news because it means the fraud in these districts was rampant and it is going to be easy to send the fraudsters to jail, for good

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 04, 2020 01:11 PM (4Jold)

98 What i didn't like was that the scanner said it went through, but didn't show me what had been recorded.

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at November 04, 2020 01:12 PM (48RE5)

99 wring = wrong

Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:12 PM (HEEq1)

100 Ted won in Portland.

Posted by: lizabth at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (L3Rsz)

Thanks. So they are only a little less screwed than they otherwise would've been.
Posted by: Mark1971 at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (xPl2J)
-------
Incompetent crypto-Commie over the out-and-proud mass-murderer loving Commie. Hooray.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 04, 2020 01:12 PM (xRn8c)

101 How the hell do sharpies not work on an optical scanner?
Posted by: Harry'sNotHere at November 04, 2020 01:10 PM (oVQqg)

They'll work fine, so long as it's a 1-sided ballot. Which isn't often.

It's the "bleed-through" from one side to the next that causes the problems.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:12 PM (4Yddh)

102 89
How the hell do sharpies not work on an optical scanner?

Were
these sharpies not black? That's the ONLY way I see optical scanners
misbehaving. If they're looking for something that's not "white or black
in a specific location", we need to NOT call them "optical scanners",
or at least explain the functional mechanism that's used to "optically"
find a marked spot.

Posted by: Harry'sNotHere at November 04, 2020 01:10 PM (oVQqg)

My question as well. Scanners should be looking at light reflected back from the media. Media is white, so reflects, unless looking at a different spectrum, like IR, where I believe sharpies are still black.

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

103 Perhaps someone will ask Biden to renounce voter fraud...

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 04, 2020 01:12 PM (Ue4zo)

104 88 i'm in PA, used a ball point pen. But my district is majority Repub. I asked why no machines, "Oh, that was changed a couple years ago."
Must have been shortly after 2018, used machine for that election.
Posted by: random lurker commenter at November 04, 2020 01:10 PM (48RE5)

Same in Kentucky. I was surprised. I also had an idle thought that the machine to count the vote looked like a paper shredder with a screen.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 04, 2020 01:13 PM (A5zUN)

105 I live in a red district in Michigan. We too were given Sharpie markers to fill both our ballot and the voter slip that is put onto the ballot before putting into the ballot box.

Posted by: Smalls at November 04, 2020 01:13 PM (FU4bw)

106 Don't the ballot machines in these states let you know when your vote is recorded? In my home state once you put the paper in the machine the screen says your vote has been counted or something.

We fed ours into what could have been a shredder, for all I know. No confirmation of anything, and no receipt, if that's the term. (In CA, you would tear of the bottom strip which had a serialized number)

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2020 01:13 PM (JioHo)

107 How the hell do sharpies not work on an optical scanner?

Were these sharpies not black? That's the ONLY way I see optical scanners misbehaving. If they're looking for something that's not "white or black in a specific location", we need to NOT call them "optical scanners", or at least explain the functional mechanism that's used to "optically" find a marked spot.

Posted by: Harry'sNotHere at November 04, 2020 01:10 PM (oVQqg)

Indeed. I'm completely ready to believe that fishy things are going on, but this one doesn't really make much sense to me. (Unlike the last post).

Posted by: Optimizer at November 04, 2020 01:13 PM (hOOi9)

108 Trumps odds have FINALLY started improving again on bovada - betting - after cratering early morning. At least headed in right direction.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2020 01:13 PM (2L5A1)

109 Our ballots were thick stock one sided.

Posted by: Iblis at November 04, 2020 01:13 PM (t/Ya5)

110 101
How the hell do sharpies not work on an optical scanner?

Posted by: Harry'sNotHere at November 04, 2020 01:10 PM (oVQqg)

They'll work fine, so long as it's a 1-sided ballot. Which isn't often.

It's the "bleed-through" from one side to the next that causes the problems.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:12 PM (4Yddh)

WHich goes back to ballot design. Do the folks in AZ NOT know how to design a ballot to avoid this?

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:13 PM (ynpvh)

111 I think the sharpies issue bears investigation. But I dont know, it may be disinformation to take our eyes of the ball. Meanwhile Biden has claimed all 3 electoral votes in Maine??

Posted by: Floridachick at November 04, 2020 01:13 PM (p5V57)

112 China Wins!

China Wins!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (sy5kK)

113 The Chad Shall Hang Again!
Posted by: 29Victor at November 04, 2020 01:07 PM

"They said you was hung!"

Chad: "And they was right!"

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (ejd/p)

114 Don't the ballot machines in these states let you know when your vote is recorded? In my home state once you put the paper in the machine the screen says your vote has been counted or something.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters

See #38.

A ballot can be read as empty, so you ballot is accepted but does not influence the vote count for your candidate.

Posted by: Adriane the Picked a Bad Time to File My Nails Critic ... at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (LPnfS)

115 In Lassen County sharpie type pens have been used forever.

We get 70% R votes.

Posted by: torabora at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (+93ud)

116 Incompetent crypto-Commie over the out-and-proud mass-murderer loving Commie. Hooray.
Posted by: Captain Obvious

It will be interesting to see how the possible new regime deals with antifa violence. Will Joe and Kammie go hard against them, since they are white supremacists and such, as well as being part of Trump's America?

Posted by: lizabth at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (L3Rsz)

117 My question as well. Scanners should be looking at light reflected back from the media. Media is white, so reflects, unless looking at a different spectrum, like IR, where I believe sharpies are still black.
Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:12 PM (ynpvh)
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I believe that bleed-thru would screw up reading double-sided ballots.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (xRn8c)

118 What the actual fucking fuckity fuck.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (GbPPJ)

119

I mean, come on. We know they would cheat their asses off.

Kinda figured they would considering the shithead they ran...they were satisfied with running a boiled potato. Who does that?

The people who have it in the bag, and who know how to cheat.

President Biden. LMAO

Love it.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (lg/F7)

120 There was no line at our polling place. The usual poll workers were there, nice folks. For flu fear factor, we used our pens and then put them in a box to be sanitized.

Ball point pens.

Biggest challenge yesterday was making sure I filled in the little box completely and carefully. A dexterity test.

Then I slipped the ballot into the shredder....

Posted by: mindful webworker
Okla 100% Trump
at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (Pqf02)

121 11 So this is why when I was presented a paper ballot at my polling place, I said I wanted to use the touch screen system.
The worker said to me: "They take too long".
Me: I want to use the touch screen.

It took me about 2 and a half minutes to vote on the touch screen, then another minute or so to scan the paper ballot it generated.
I'm not saying that our precinct gave us sharpies, because they didn't...I just think the paper ballots are unreliable because even if you go outside the lines they don't work.
Posted by: kallisto

It took you 2.5 minutes to vote? Took me over 45 minutes! I mean, from the moment I had the ballot in front and starting pondering the first question, to the moment I dropped it off, was at least 45 minutes.

I guess you don't have state propositions where you live!

Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (HEEq1)

122 So who bought the sharpies?
C'mon man, you think they didn't expense that?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (bDqIh)

123 109 Our ballots were thick stock one sided.
Posted by: Iblis at November 04, 2020 01:13 PM (t/Ya5)

Ours were heavy paper as well, but two sided. The first side was all the candidates. The back was ballot initiatives.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (A5zUN)

124 111 I think the sharpies issue bears investigation. But I dont know, it may be disinformation to take our eyes of the ball. Meanwhile Biden has claimed all 3 electoral votes in Maine??
Posted by: Floridachick at November 04, 2020 01:13 PM (p5V57)

There are 4 total and I think Trump has the other one.

Posted by: Marybeth at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (4pK1/)

125 WHich goes back to ballot design. Do the folks in AZ NOT know how to design a ballot to avoid this?
Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:13 PM (ynpvh)

Um, imma gonna go with "because Republicans suck at all things politics".

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (4Yddh)

126 This is a non-thing. I'm in AZ, the ballot machine reads sharpies and counts them just fine. In 2016, my ballot had an initial issue with the Sharpie, spit the ballot out, I was able to fix and resubmit. There's immediate feedback on good/bad ballot read when in-person. Also, Maricopa County Recorder has come out and confirmed sharpie ballots are counted and valid.

Posted by: H.L. Mencken's Ghost at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (GVV/B)

127 Interesting times. Treasonous poll workers? The pen is mightier than the sword.

Posted by: klaftern at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (RuIsu)

128 "But I have a real job! Not like I can just take a day off to volunteer at the polls." - Republicans realizing leftists Always Be Closing

Posted by: Dark Helmet at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (Oka5v)

129 Sarah Gideon has conceded to Susan Collins. If James can hold on in MI the GOP will have no net loss of Senate seats. 53.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (xPl2J)

130 In Lassen County sharpie type pens have been used forever.

We get 70% R votes.
Posted by: torabora at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (+93ud)
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When I lived in Lassen County (1994-9

, we were using the punch-out style ballots. When did that change?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (xRn8c)

131 117
My question as well. Scanners should be looking at light reflected back
from the media. Media is white, so reflects, unless looking at a
different spectrum, like IR, where I believe sharpies are still black.

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

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I believe that bleed-thru would screw up reading double-sided ballots.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (xRn8c)

Does anybody have an example of one of the ballots, both sides? Bleed through would only be a problem if the bubbles on one side are too close or overlap the bubbles on the other side. Poor design in that case. Welcome to the 2020 version of the butterfly ballot.

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (ynpvh)

132 If your willing to commit arson on s police station. Cheating the vote is like a romper room crime.

Posted by: Redenzo at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (E7vND)

133 Ho Lee Fuk!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (CjFDo)

134 Pollster @CottoGottfried said there are 500k votes left in AZ and they're breaking R. (Twitter) Fox refuses to remove AZ from a Biden win, despite continued voting.

Posted by: EveR at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (R0z7P)

135 I am pretty sure everyone hear understands this, but just to say it out loud: this is a pure street brawl right now. Whatever happened (e.g., sharpies in red precincts, fraudulent thumb drives), has happened. Arguments pertaining to legality, logic, due process, fairness, etc. are tools/weapons, they aren't the battle itself. It's going to be an all-out street brawl to get 270 electoral votes certified and take office in January. The left sure as hell knows this. And they have a multi-year head start. The good news? We've got the best street brawler on the planet running point for our side. I don't know how much of the squishy GOP that Trump will have on his side for a bruising, no-holds-barred battle that is underway. But I know he's got me until my last f***ing breath.

Posted by: Matt at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (3J5Re)

136 (1994-98 )

Stupid smiley.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (xRn8c)

137 Recounts everywhere.

They all need to be checked with a fine tooth comb. I'm fine with Trump losing even if they do this thoroughly.

It's not so much the idea of losing that stings but when it's grand theft auto.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Losing My Mind at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (8YFRI)

138 My polling place had felt-tip pens. Is that OK?
This was MA, so no need to destroy GOP votes.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (bDqIh)

139 Just emailed my county GOP. Hopefully they get back to me.

If any potentially affected people have a Twitter account (I don't), I imagine you could tweet your inquiry and get a quicker response.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (PsI+X)

140 Sharpies and thumb drives. What's next?

Posted by: wth at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (v0R5T)

141 "I've never seen people work so hard to kick-start a modern civil war they're not even remotely prepared for."

Anybody who thinks they're "prepared" for a shooting civil war is being way overconfident.

I, an Illinois voter, did what I could to boost the Trump pop vote. I'm pleased to see that my down-ticket votes pretty much won except for Durbin.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (qpX6U)

142
Do people not know that Markers don't work well (if at all) with scanners?

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I had no effing idea.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (jUVms)

143 Obsidian Knife @ #17

Very powerful Lincoln quote! Thanks for sharing that today

Posted by: Prime sistah at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (tQL7r)

144 All the little voting tables had black felt tip markers. Not sharpies, specifically. What's the deal?

Posted by: Synova at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (BD/yx)

145 The machines we graded tests with would not reliably read Sharpies / Markers.

Pencil. Ballpoint Ink.

But markers got it working all wonky and weird and unreliably. Would have to 'over fill' with a pen to get a good result.

Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (U6FY4)

146 Alright, I am signed up to assist a recount in southern GA if needed.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (JRaU+)

147 Then again, if sharpies are problematic...maybe my votes over the years haven't been counted?
Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:09 PM (ynpvh)

That could sure explain CA. We didn't have sharpies until recently. Last time I was concerned, this time I brought my own pen - they still wanted me to use a sharpie.

Actually, they REALLY wanted me to use the tablet, and were a bit bent out of shape they had to print out a paper ballot. The last local, I didn't even have a choice, tablet or nothing.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (8B6Ng)

148 It's the "bleed-through" from one side to the next that causes the problems.

PA. Ours were almost oak-tag in thickness, and were one-sided. Very luxurious, the best!

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (JioHo)

149 Ain't we stinkers?

Posted by: Dem Operatives at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (4I/2K)

150 134 Pollster @CottoGottfried said there are 500k votes left in AZ and they're breaking R. (Twitter) Fox refuses to remove AZ from a Biden win, despite continued voting.
Posted by: EveR at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (R0z7P)

Why does AZ always take so long to count their votes?

Posted by: Marybeth at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (4pK1/)

151 @93: I understand that they work on reflection. White paper is pretty damn reflective. The only way I can see sharpies not working on a ballot is if the sharpies in question were the same color as the lamp the scanner uses to illuminate the ballot (think "red leds and a red sharpie". The red sharpie would most likely get lost), or as @101 mentioned, bleed through.

Posted by: Harry'sNotHere at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (oVQqg)

152 There will be no civil war. Our side does not fight. Not until our backs are physically against the wall, and at that point, we are merely offering token resistance to the tyranny that has been entrenched. We play by the rules. They write them.

The cheating is as blatant as can be. They are flaunting it as a message, they told us that it was going to happen, there was never going to be a chance taken here after 2016, and once they reach the executive office again, that's it for the remnants of the America we once knew. There is too much money, and more importantly, too much power at play, too many major players around the world to allow this to go any way other than what they planned.

I have no answers, and yes, I know I've gone full Eeyore at this point. But I feel powerless to do anything but rant. This is undoubtedly the greatest political scandal in the history of our nation.

Posted by: Average Loser at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (8aO2d)

153 Missouri still has the punchcard ballots.

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (nxdel)

154 According to this, there are procedures to count those votes:

https://tinyurl.com/yxssrpl7

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (d+Jcl)

155 Where are the Republican poll watchers in Pima County? On the Soros payroll? That is a grade school protest to make for voting irregularity!

Posted by: Kurtz at November 04, 2020 01:18 PM (0YZ6P)

156 Pollster @CottoGottfried said there are 500k votes left in AZ and they're breaking R. (Twitter) Fox refuses to remove AZ from a Biden win, despite continued voting.

************************

it would likely be called by CNN first before Fox, CNN to rub it in Fox's faces. If Fox has to admit they got it wrong, that's going to be incredibly damaging to their rep.

Not that they have any left to lose but just saying.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Losing My Mind at November 04, 2020 01:18 PM (8YFRI)

157 140 Sharpies and thumb drives. What's next?
Posted by: wth at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (v0R5T

Suitcases.

Posted by: dantesed at November 04, 2020 01:18 PM (88xKn)

158 Pollster @CottoGottfried said there are 500k votes left in AZ and they're breaking R. (Twitter) Fox refuses to remove AZ from a Biden win, despite continued voting.
Posted by: EveR at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (R0z7P)

In all seriousness - why is it that Arizona takes a week to count a couple (like, 2.5) million votes while Florida can have their full count of almost 11-million votes done before midnight on election night?

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:18 PM (4Yddh)

159 19 I've never seen people work so hard to kick-start a modern civil war they're not even remotely prepared for.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 04, 2020 01:02 PM (o3eXo)

__________

"We have the nukes and other sundry killing machines." -- Eric Shartwell, attorney for the Deep State/IC/Pentagon dark triad

Posted by: ShainS at November 04, 2020 01:18 PM (vVZVb)

160 Anyone who is still looking at votes remaining and "paths to victory" for Trump can just stop now. He isn't going to be allowed to win regardless of how many votes he gets.

Posted by: Stout at November 04, 2020 01:18 PM (EHSFD)

161 There will be no civil war. Our side does not fight.

************************

This. The most we'll do is complain loudly while they direct us to the traincars.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Losing My Mind at November 04, 2020 01:18 PM (8YFRI)

162 >>Sarah Gideon has conceded to Susan Collins. If James can hold on in MI the GOP will have no net loss of Senate seats. 53.

Did she?
I just saw on the news about 10 min ago that they were waiting for confirmation that Collins got 50% (she was at 50.3% w/not all votes counted) -- if Collings gets even a smidge below 50% then the "ranked choice voting" count kicks in, which could net Gideon more votes.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:19 PM (bDqIh)

163 Bad people do not feel shame when doing bad things. They feel joy.
Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:11 PM (HEEq1)

They convince themselves that evil is good. They inundate tnemselves in lies until they believe it, and once they do, they revel in it.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 04, 2020 01:19 PM (7IkXq)

164 Whatever Florida does on election day post-2000 should be the model for all other states to follow.

But Dems don't actually want smooth, speedy, and transparent elections

Posted by: Lay who za her at November 04, 2020 01:19 PM (ZR7kf)

165 157 140 Sharpies and thumb drives. What's next?
Posted by: wth at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (v0R5T

Suitcases.
Posted by: dantesed at November 04, 2020 01:18 PM (88xKn)

Buicks - oldies but goodies

Posted by: Marybeth at November 04, 2020 01:19 PM (4pK1/)

166 Official Pima County
@pimaarizona
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The felt-tip pen ballot controversy burning through social media is false. Don't get caught up in it. Arizona ballot tabulating machines can read ballots marked with a felt tip pen. Felt pens are discouraged because the ink can bleed through. 1/3
Official Pima County
@pimaarizona
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If it does bleed through, the ballot will most likely get sent for duplication so it can be read by the scanner. The image is the text from the
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Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 04, 2020 01:19 PM (d+Jcl)

167 @158 it's because of how they have to validate the dropped off absentee ballots and the provisional ballots. there's a 5 day window allowed for validation

Posted by: H.L. Mencken's Ghost at November 04, 2020 01:19 PM (GVV/B)

168 Posted by: Average Loser at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (8aO2d)

This guy gets it.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at November 04, 2020 01:20 PM (Oka5v)

169 Does anybody have an example of one of the ballots, both sides? Bleed through would only be a problem if the bubbles on one side are too close or overlap the bubbles on the other side. Poor design in that case. Welcome to the 2020 version of the butterfly ballot.
Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (ynpvh)

I have a couple of CA ballots from Santa Clara Co., mail in type which is pretty much the same as the one I had at the voting booth.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 04, 2020 01:20 PM (8B6Ng)

170 Do people not know that Markers don't work well (if at all) with scanners?

I brought a pen with me. Always do.
Posted by: garrett at November 04, 2020 01:08 PM (U6FY4)

As someone said above, I trusted that my township was not trying to screw us.

Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2020 01:20 PM (9UmRs)

171 >>I've never seen people work so hard to kick-start a modern civil war they're not even remotely prepared for.

A guess? It's not entirely a civil war -- they have assistance from China and other outside forces who want to see America destroyed.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:20 PM (bDqIh)

172 I've never seen people work so hard to kick-start a modern civil war they're not even remotely prepared for.
Posted by: Azathoth at November 04, 2020 01:02 PM (o3eXo)

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Oh, they are prepared and all the guns you have will not help you. They have taken our children while we were busy making a living.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2020 01:20 PM (nL4fk)

173 Bad people do not feel shame when doing bad things. They feel joy.
Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:11 PM (HEEq1)

They convince themselves that evil is good. They inundate tnemselves in lies until they believe it, and once they do, they revel in it.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 04, 2020 01:19 PM (7IkXq)

BAMN.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2020 01:20 PM (t+qrx)

174 Pollster @CottoGottfried said there are 500k votes left in AZ and they're breaking R. (Twitter) Fox refuses to remove AZ from a Biden win,

despite continued voting.

Despite continued voting? WTF? Polls closed last night.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2020 01:20 PM (3W5cQ)

175 At LEAST these ballots will be allowed for hand recounts, which will then have to be counted. If it's true about sharpies, then this will add a significant amount to Trump. This will also account for senate and house races as well.

Posted by: Jonah Kyle at November 04, 2020 01:20 PM (SH7Tr)

176 157
140 Sharpies and thumb drives. What's next?

Posted by: wth at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (v0R5T

Suitcases.

Posted by: dantesed at November 04, 2020 01:18 PM (88xKn)

Don't forget the boxes out of trunks.

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (ynpvh)

177 AZ is mission critical.

Must have AZ.

Posted by: Dick Morris at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (3aLWR)

178 Police station arson...shit, how about hacking up a fetus?

Posted by: nip at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (yoqcZ)

179 164 Whatever Florida does on election day post-2000 should be the model for all other states to follow.

But Dems don't actually want smooth, speedy, and transparent elections
Posted by: Lay who za her at November 04, 2020 01:19 PM (ZR7kf)

Florida's coming out of this election looking pretty good!

Which is a nice change from Florida Man fame

Posted by: Marybeth at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (4pK1/)

180 The paper ballots we got in PA were one sided and quite thick, so perhaps the sharpies won't cause a problem.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (PsI+X)

181 Anyone have Maine 3 ec gone to Biden?

Posted by: Floridachick at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (p5V57)

182 Why wouldn't the sharpie ballots be read by a scanner?

Posted by: SarahW at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (g1vnC)

183 Did she?

I just saw on the news about 10 min ago that they were waiting for
confirmation that Collins got 50% (she was at 50.3% w/not all votes
counted) -- if Collings gets even a smidge below 50% then the "ranked
choice voting" count kicks in, which could net Gideon more votes.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:19 PM (bDqIh)

A Politico reporter on Twitter says Susan Collins said Gideon called her to concede.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (xPl2J)

184 It took you 2.5 minutes to vote? Took me over 45 minutes! I mean, from the moment I had the ballot in front and starting pondering the first question, to the moment I dropped it off, was at least 45 minutes.

I guess you don't have state propositions where you live!
Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (HEEq1)

I strongly recommend figuring out propositions in advance, the tiny blurb they put on the ballots doesn't fully reflect what they are, and the titles are often spun pretty heavily.

Even something that looks reasonable at first glance almost always has a ton of special interest stuff crammed into to the actual text.

Posted by: Sjg at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (gDSJf)

185 This also happened in michigan

Posted by: Chillin the most at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (lonOK)

186 Just got here, but has the claim that sharpies can not be read been confirmed?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (IaKwv)

187 I live in PA in a Republican precinct. I was given a Sharpie, like I was about a year ago when they introduced this. The recorded percentages +30R were about the same as normal.They do bleed though and there are potential problems, but I don't believe they lead to miscounts.I'm agnostic on this. I was happy with electronic balloting, but this leaves a paper trail and in that sense it is good.

Posted by: kraki at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (TNa9O)

188 I've never seen people work so hard to kick-start a modern civil war they're not even remotely prepared for."

"They" don't believe there will be a civil war, modern or otherwise. "They" believe we're just gonna take it, like we pretty much always have, with the lone notable exception being 2000.

And if I were a betting man, my bet would absolutely be on the side of And "They" Are Abso-fuckin-lutely Correct.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (4Yddh)

189 157 140 Sharpies and thumb drives. What's next?
Posted by: wth at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (v0R5T

Suitcases.

Posted by: dantesed at November 04, 2020 01:18 PM (88xKn)

_________

Thousands of online blockchain votes from China miners -- all for Biden -- to be counted in 5 .. 4 .. 3...

Posted by: ShainS at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (vVZVb)

190 Missouri still has the punchcard ballots.
======================
I'm on the other side of the state. My ballot was printed, then I had to fill in the bubbles w/a ball point pen, 2 sided form. This was fed into a reader, and I got a greenlight my ballot was accepted. Must vary precinct to precinct.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (7Fj9P)

191 Will Paul Ryan let Fox News report on this?

Posted by: kadang07 at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (8Z3g5)

192 My polling place had felt-tip pens. Is that OK?
This was MA, so no need to destroy GOP votes.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM

It always was in my hometown. No bleed through issues. No problems voting.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (ejd/p)

193 >>Sharpies and thumb drives. What's next?

UPS bags of ballots "found" in mailrooms.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (bDqIh)

194 I guess Buicks are the new otters. I remember when otters were the new bacon.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (qpX6U)

195 There will be no civil war. Our side does not fight.

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Trump seems like a fighter to me.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (sX1BW)

196 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)

197 It took you 2.5 minutes to vote? Took me over 45 minutes! I mean, from the moment I had the ballot in front and starting pondering the first question, to the moment I dropped it off, was at least 45 minutes.

I guess you don't have state propositions where you live!
Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (HEEq1)

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I followed the usual voting strategy, which mirrors what AlexTheChick mentioned as hers on the Drift Compatible podcast: Vote red for offices; vote no on retention of judges; vote no on constitutional amendments and bond issues. Makes the process easier.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (VMeP4)

198 Oh, they are prepared and all the guns you have will not help you. They have taken our children while we were busy making a living.
Posted by: Decaf

Ain't got kids. I'm ready to dance. Call the tune.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (3W5cQ)

199 Never more apropos

"It's not the people wha vote that count, it's the people who count the votes - Joseph Stalin

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (48RE5)

200 Feel like we are living a nightmare version of Red Dawn except the role of the Russians is being played by homegrown bolshevicks.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (iLThc)

201 150 Marybeth

These votes were the ones Gov Ducey referenced this am. He said they were Election Day. Very confusing, but Team Trump very upbeat.

Posted by: EveR at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (R0z7P)

202 Awesome. 2000's "hanging chad" will be 2020's "bleed-through."

I guess it's progress. Of a sort.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (hYcqw)

203 I thought SharpieGate was bullshit but people are jumping on this. IT could be real. Time for a Florida 2000 recount.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (v7Q8U)

204 As someone said above, I trusted that my township was not trying to screw us.
Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2020 01:20 PM (9UmRs)

The individual voter in my district feeds the ballot into the counting machine and gets immediate feedback on whether it was accepted. Would it accept a 'blank' ballot, that it couldn't read? I don't know. But we also don't register by party, so I'm using the same marker the people next to me are using.

Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (t+qrx)

205 Amazing how many new commenters there are.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (A5Eje)

206 Florida's coming out of this election looking pretty good!
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We have an excellent governor who was pissed they didn't call Florida for Trump 2 hours sooner.

Imagine if we had that meth/cock (not a misspelling) whore weirdo who likes to party hard, naked with guys and pass out in his own vomit.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (jUVms)

207 If only there were some LEA that could look into this.

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They will, next year. They need to sit on this for as long as they did Hunter Biden's computer.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (nL4fk)

208 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 04, 2020 01:19 PM (d+Jcl)

So much ado about nothing?

I hope so.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (PsI+X)

209 IDK, I feel like we're just coming up with ever more unlikely scenarios to win

A TD, 2-point conversion, onside kick recovery and a field goal

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (aO8Gd)

210 >>A Politico reporter on Twitter says Susan Collins said Gideon called her to concede.

Awesome!!
When the ranked choice BS was mentioned I figured this was how they would steal it from Collins.
Like in 2018 when 40 or so GOP wins were erased days/weeks after election day.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (bDqIh)

211 well, our "path" requires one of
AZ or MI in addition to the usual PA NC GA

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (v7Q8U)

212 >Poll Workers Gave Sharpies to Voters In Trump Districts.
Sharpie Marks Do Not Read on Optical Scanners, So Thousands of Trump Votes Were Made Invisible.

they gotta prove it

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (iTXRQ)

213 They will have to hand count every ballot to resolve this, it needs to be contested immediately.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (9onwx)

214 Ffs, we have touch screen tablets in Louisiana. You people are living in the stone age with your sharpies.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (xfb67)

215 If Biden is declaring victory tonight you can be sure no states will call for Trump. Maybe NC but not NV, AZ, WI, PA, or MI.

The media will report them as Biden wins and put the magic number all over the screen and frame Trump as a sore loser.

Media calls are not certified results. Remember this people

Posted by: Lay who za her at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (ZR7kf)

216 Well, the good news is that if this happened, it will be easy to challenge.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (HabA/)

217 at least biden won't havefefe the senate. no court packing and complete gridlock until 2022.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (v7Q8U)

218 Would it accept a 'blank' ballot, that it couldn't read?

what if it could read some, but not others? then it would absolutely be accepted (where I am we vote the same) just some of the votes on the form wouldn't be cast

I already knew not to use a pencil, or a sharpie... ball point pen.

they're really specific about that here

Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (j9HX3)

219 201 150 Marybeth

These votes were the ones Gov Ducey referenced this am. He said they were Election Day. Very confusing, but Team Trump very upbeat.
Posted by: EveR at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (R0z7P)

Yeah, I know, but AZ always counts slow.

I just would like it done ASAP so Pedo Joe doesn't try to claim them.

Posted by: Marybeth at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (4pK1/)

220 "Amazing how many new commenters there are.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (A5Eje)"

That's a strange way to spell "trolls"

Posted by: Marcus T at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (VpIIl)

221 What are we going to do? Serious question. Posting memes and grumbling about bullshit means we lose.

BTW I don't have the answer, I am asking. What are we going to do? Just let it happen?

I am for scorched earth now. There is no downside. They already think we are dictators and nazis. Will they think worse if we actually start fighting?

Posted by: Innagaddadavida at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (hpbeA)

222 there's apparently videos.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (v7Q8U)

223 UPS bags of ballots "found" in mailrooms.

Yep. That's how they stole the 2004 Gubernatorial election in WA. They were literally finding boxes of votes in car trunks and closets and they kept recounting until Gregoire won. Then they declared victory and stopped counting.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (sG4Hj)

224
I've been given a magic marker / Sharpie at my polling place for two decades. I need better sourcing and confirmation on this.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (t5m5e)

225 I guess you don't have state propositions where you live!
Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (HEEq1)

I was in and out in about 5 min.

What took time was them printing out a paper ballot, because they really wanted me to use a tablet (South Santa Clara Co.). I'd already filled out a ballot for my mother, read everything ahead of time so it took less than a minute to fill it out and scan it.

And yes, they tried to give me a sharpie. I'd also venture to guess the only people asking for paper ballots were repubs.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (8B6Ng)

226 Anyone have Maine 3 ec gone to Biden?
Posted by: Floridachick at November 04, 2020 01:21 PM (p5V57)

Maine has 2 congressional districts (both D, both re-elected) and they partition their 4 EV 1) 1 for each CD and 2) 2 for the statewide winner

Trump won ME-2, so he gets 1 EV
Soros' brain-dead meat-puppet won ME-1 and the state as a whole, so he gets 2+1 or 3 EV

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (4Yddh)

227 Amazing how many new commenters there are.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at Novembe

they are very concerned too

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (4Jold)

228 Aren't punchcards the hanging chad bullshit?

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (jUVms)

229 Elections are pointless.

They've gotten what they wanted, which was to destroy the system.

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Just setting up the scene for the UN to save the day.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (nL4fk)

230 The problem with Civil war is the left hasn't found the hill we are willing to die on. But they will keep searching.

Posted by: Dick Morris at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (3aLWR)

231 at least biden won't havefefe the senate. no court packing and complete gridlock until 2022.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (v7Q8U)
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It's kinda cute that you think Biden will last until 2022.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (xRn8c)

232 174 rickb

Sorry, meant counting not voting.

Posted by: EveR at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (R0z7P)

233 Sharpiegate...I'm convinced now that the halt to vote counts last night was deliberate and coordinated so the election could be stolen.

Posted by: Defund NeverTrump at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (0jZvB)

234 >>"Why the fuck would they only have Sharpies if they don't work?"

Because they don't work.

Resume your wonderment.

Posted by: Zod at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (ypWQJ)

235 "Vote red for offices; vote no on retention of judges; vote no on constitutional amendments and bond issues."

I retained our local judges. They give really really stiff sentences to violent criminals. But guess what? Violent criminals are not deterred by stiff sentencing. They consider prison time a necessary cred-building part of the outlaw lifestyle, and they can always could on easy parole.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (qpX6U)

236 So is there any real possibility the House flips?

Posted by: Marybeth at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (4pK1/)

237 I seriously doubt that a machine that can handle ballpoint ink cannot handle Sharpie ink, which is darker.

The Sharpie problem is that the ink might (might) bleed through, in which case not only the Sharpie would be defective but also the paper.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (ykYG2)

238 Off idiot sock

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (3aLWR)

239 I strongly recommend figuring out propositions in advance, the tiny blurb they put on the ballots doesn't fully reflect what they are, and the titles are often spun pretty heavily.
=====================
last cycle they had a Soros initiative on the ballot: "Clean MO". Sounds great, eh? Cleanup the environment?
No.
It established a 3 person "demographer" group to redistrict the entire state.
We repealed it this cycle.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (7Fj9P)

240 Amazing how many doom and gloomers there are.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (A5zUN)

241 My CA ballots had enough spaced between the bubbles on on side and the other so that any bleed would go over text on the opposite side, so should have been readable by the scanners. If AZ had a poor design that didn't do this (which seems like is probably the case), then that's their fault. The scanner is not going to look too far outside the bubble regions.

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

242 Sharpie-gate undoubtedly happened in other states.

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (ONvIw)

243 "Amazing how many new commenters there are.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (A5Eje)"

That's a strange way to spell "trolls"
Posted by: Marcus T at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (VpIIl)

I'd also guess there's a good chance some longtime lurkers feel a huge need to vent at this point.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (8B6Ng)

244 I would ask can the news get any worse but I don't wanna know the answer because yes, yes it can. I used a pen. I always carry one and knew to carry one with me yesterday. I have always worried about bleed through and always watch my ballot scan. Of course, once dumped in the hopper, who knows where it goes or if the ballot is actually scanned or not.

Posted by: turambar at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (Gylu/)

245 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (7Fj9P)

Hmm, okay that must have changed from 2016.

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (nxdel)

246 Thank you Dr.Boom

Posted by: Floridachick at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (p5V57)

247 >> FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge

"According to a combination of exit polling and analysis of previous AoSHQ comments threads, we are sticking with our original call of Skip being first."
-- 2020 Fox News Decision Desk

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (bDqIh)

248 Taking pens away? How do they tale your property away?

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (ONvIw)

249 Does MLB still use punch cards to vote for the all star team? Haven't seen one of those since I was a kid.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (xPl2J)

250 Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM (jUVms)

You're right.
If you haven't written to President Trump to tell him this, please consider doing so; He needs to hear from citizens.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (WkPC9)

251 Willowed. Has there been any indication of when the AZ count will be completed?

Posted by: Where are my ping pong balls? at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (m3XFr)

252 In my district we have touch screen machines to recieve your vote, then prints a paper ballot that you review to confirm your vote, then submits or cancels the paper ballot based on your confirmation or rejection

Posted by: josephistan at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (Izzlo)

253 Trump seems like a fighter to me.
Posted by: SH at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (sX1BW)

And I appreciate that, and it's what I've most enjoyed about him compared to prior squishes and "compassionate conservatives." And there may well be a chance that he alone can pull this off. It will be immensely impressive if he should. But then there needs to be a reckoning if so. They cannot be allowed to do this again, and their institutions must suffer.

Posted by: Average Loser at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (8aO2d)

254 On our AZ absentee ballots, it clearly and explicitly stated at the top of the ballot "Use black or blue ballpoint pen ink only."

Can't speak to the in-person voting ballots.

Posted by: ShainS at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (vVZVb)

255 It's kinda cute that you think Biden will last until 2022.
Posted by: Captain Obviou

---> like the cop is any better.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (v7Q8U)

256 PA should have stuck with our previous voting method. You were in a booth covered by a curtain, didn't use a paper ballots and you could vote straight party at the touch of a button.

Now you fill out the ballot being surrounded by a cardboard shield that isn't very tall on only 3 sides, so that a very nosy person could see what you were doing if they tried.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (PsI+X)

257 FWIW: Was given a Sharpie to use on my ballot. The optical scanner indicated my ballot was successfully cast. Still, it's Crook County, so who knows?

Posted by: Old Dude at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (LGXGf)

258 235
"Vote red for offices; vote no on retention of judges; vote no on constitutional amendments and bond issues."

I retained our local judges. They give really really stiff
sentences to violent criminals. But guess what? Violent criminals are
not deterred by stiff sentencing. They consider prison time a necessary
cred-building part of the outlaw lifestyle, and they can always could
on easy parole.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (qpX6U)

But at least they're off the streets while in the click.

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

259 It took you 2.5 minutes to vote? Took me over 45 minutes! I mean, from the moment I had the ballot in front and starting pondering the first question, to the moment I dropped it off, was at least 45 minutes.

I guess you don't have state propositions where you live!

My wife's a teacher, so she gets vote recommendations from her union. It makes propositions a snap. Whatever the teacher's union recommends, I vote opposite.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (sG4Hj)

260 Ain't got kids. I'm ready to dance. Call the tune.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (3W5cQ)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVxb9fAaAe4

Even has an elephant.

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (MkuC5)

261 They will, next year. They need to sit on this for as long as they did Hunter Biden's computer.
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (nL4fk)

Speaking of which, has Wray been shit-canned yet?
Haspel?
Esper?
Fauci?

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (4Yddh)

262 Twitter won't let anyone call results unless it's the listed MSM orgs.

Then move on.org posts that Biden has won AZ and Twitter hasn't taken it down or censored it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (3aLWR)

263 UN FUCKING REAL

Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (22mNy)

264 For what it's worth, one data analytics outfit thinks AZ remaining votes will give Trump the win.

https://tinyurl.com/y44ecsll

Posted by: lowandslow at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (4thlk)

265 We used pens that we were to leave in the booth so they could be collected and wiped down (I suppose). Used a wet Q-tip to sign my name on the electronic screen.

They've gone WuFlu crazy down here.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (HaL55)

266 221 What are we going to do? Serious question. Posting memes and grumbling about bullshit means we lose.

BTW I don't have the answer, I am asking. What are we going to do? Just let it happen?

I am for scorched earth now. There is no downside. They already think we are dictators and nazis. Will they think worse if we actually start fighting?
Posted by: Innagaddadavida at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (hpbeA)

Well it's a war isn't it? Make your own preparations and defenses, organize with others as possible, sabotage the enemy wherever possible. And understand that the enemy is not only the party machine. If you're in a position to knock a million off Disney or Google's bottom line, well what does your conscience tell you to do?

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (Zm+LZ)

267 Stepien just requested recount in WI.

Posted by: EveR at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (R0z7P)

268 Democrats you want Mad Max World?

Sharpies invalidating votes is a good way

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (YFlcc)

269 I call bullshit!
I really think Sharpies work, except for a potential bleed-through problem.
I think this is a misguided conspiracy theory.

Posted by: kraki at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (TNa9O)

270 The Sharpie penis mightier!

Posted by: Sean Connery at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (4I/2K)

271 they are very concerned too
Posted by: confederatefifth

I find their concern concerning, if not problematic.

Posted by: Miklos, unibrow furrowed at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (QzkSJ)

272 264
For what it's worth, one data analytics outfit thinks AZ remaining votes will give Trump the win.

https://tinyurl.com/y44ecsll

Posted by: lowandslow at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (4thlk)

Have the factored in trunkfuls of votes for Biden?

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (ynpvh)

273 Trump seems like a fighter to me.
Posted by: SH at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (sX1BW)

He's one guy. We are individualists fighting collectivists. We have no organization, no coordination. Many of us are uneasy simply telling neighbors or co-workers who they support! If we can't even do that, then we're each on our own, not #inthistogether. They want to dominate us, we just want to be left alone. The leftist revolution here started slowly, it's quickly approaching the "suddenly" phase.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (Oka5v)

274 It's kinda cute that you think Biden will last until 2022.
Posted by: Captain Obviou

---> like the cop is any better.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (v7Q8U)
-----
Oh, I know. I'm just curious how long they can keep up the pretense that Biden is anything other than what he is.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (xRn8c)

275 Just checked my.arizona.vote and found that my ballot was accepted. So there's one for Trump.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (SchxB)

276

Trump wins Maine-2. Yahoo is saying that the Trump campaign wants a recount in Wisconsin.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (kw5n8)

277 I'm on the other side of the state. My ballot was printed, then I had to fill in the bubbles w/a ball point pen, 2 sided form. This was fed into a reader, and I got a greenlight my ballot was accepted. Must vary precinct to precinct.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 04, 2020 01:22 PM (7Fj9P)

I'm in SE MO...same, although not two sided.

Posted by: Tami at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (cF8AT)

278 If Biden is declaring victory tonight you can be sure no states will call for Trump.

****

That's some serious hubris, even algore was like let's wait until all the votes for me are counted before I declare myself the winner.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Losing My Mind at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (8YFRI)

279 254 On our AZ absentee ballots, it clearly and explicitly stated at the top of the ballot "Use black or blue ballpoint pen ink only."

Can't speak to the in-person voting ballots.
Posted by: ShainS at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (vVZVb)

This was true in NJ in precincts where "the machines are down". You were told to fill out a ballot, leave your conatct info, and they would scan it later. The machines are not op scans they're lever machines.

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (ONvIw)

280 Trump won you troglodytes.

This right here is the hill to die on.

Posted by: ghost of kari at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (Z4LGO)

281 For what its worth, third party firm (Digital Orbital) is forecasting a Trump win in Arizona.

Posted by: Jesus Built My Hotrod at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (JWPIL)

282 So are we back to all is lost, Biden wins? Or still on things are looking up?? Hard to keep track.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (bCLt0)

283 We had optical scanners. They gave us ballpoint pens, which were hard to fill in the box with.

I wondered why they didn't use markers (other than bleed-through making the back side unreadable--which could result in spoilage).

But I don't know why a Sharpie wouldn't show up on an optical scanner...

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (oVJmc)

284 "What are we going to do? Serious question. Posting memes and grumbling about bullshit means we lose."

Waiting to hear Bongino's take.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (qpX6U)

285 270 The Sharpie penis mightier!
Posted by: Sean Connery at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (4I/2K)

You're selling penis mightiers?

Posted by: Tom Cruise at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (Izzlo)

286 FWIW: Was given a Sharpie to use on my ballot. The optical scanner indicated my ballot was successfully cast. Still, it's Crook County, so who knows?
Posted by: Old Dude at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (LGXGf)

Same here. My vote was probably fine now that I think about it more.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (PsI+X)

287 280 Trump won you troglodytes.

This right here is the hill to die on.
Posted by: ghost of kari at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (Z4LGO)

--------

A-fricken-men

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (jUVms)

288 Frankly I'm sorta shocked that Massachusetts (which went 2:1 for Puddin' Brain) rejected "Ranked Choice Voting", and it wasn't even really all that close.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (4Yddh)

289 My polling station had pens.

Still used my own pen.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (YFlcc)

290 After the hundreds of millions of spending on Senate races, it looks like the GOP retains control by the same margin. It also looks like we gain between 5 and 12 House seats, or so claims twitter.

The only question mark is President. And Arizona, NC and Georgia look safe for PDJT. Whither Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania? The fraud is unreal, but we lead by so much in Pa you would hope it shouldn't matter.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (vBPbn)

291 The Sharpie penis mightier!
Posted by: Sean Connery at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (4I/2K)

Shouldn't that be "Sharpie Penish" ?

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (8B6Ng)

292 I'm fairly certain every country that had a civil war didn't think they were going to have a civil war either all the way up until they suddenly did.

Posted by: Azathoth at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (o3eXo)

293 I'd also guess there's a good chance some longtime lurkers feel a huge need to vent at this point.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (8B6Ng)

/raises hand

I didn't start commenting until a few weeks ago, so, yes, guilty as charged. Been lurking for over a decade.

Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (b3x5S)

294 I guess you don't have state propositions where you live!

No judges, propositions, local taxes or anything. Maybe five choices to make.

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (fFtVH)

295 "What are we going to do? Serious question. Posting memes and grumbling about bullshit means we lose."

---> well, if history is any lesson, losing is the path.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (v7Q8U)

296 So hand count the ballots. We need full recounts and vote audits in WI, MI, and AZ at the least.

Posted by: Broseidon at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (icI8A)

297 Son of a bitch, I was right. I KNEW something wasn't right with the bleed through, dirty fvcking bastards.

Posted by: dartist at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (+ya+t)

298 Ctrl+F "sharpie in pooper"

C'mon Horde, it's like I don't know you guys any more.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (YDYXC)

299 You can throw your rock,then hide your hand.

Working in the dark against your fellow man.

But as sure as God made black and white,

what's done in the dark will be brought to the light--

The Man in Black

Cheaters: we are coming for YOU!!!

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (nAiE/)

300 286
FWIW: Was given a Sharpie to use on my ballot. The optical scanner
indicated my ballot was successfully cast. Still, it's Crook County, so
who knows?

Posted by: Old Dude at November 04, 2020 01:27 PM (LGXGf)

Same here. My vote was probably fine now that I think about it more.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your
Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (PsI+X)
In NH I've used sharpies before too. We all used pens for primary and general elections because they wanted us to keep the pens because of the Wu Flu.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (N39Ws)

301 NE Pa. (Pike County) We were given ball-points here. Ballot thin paper; reverse was our state rep (locally very popular) My son made the joke of feeding his ballot into the "shredder"...

Posted by: pahound at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (D2K2b)

302 Noticed this as I filled out my ballot in AZ. Sharpies at the two locations I went to. (Was meeting my wife to vote and walked into the wrong location). After completing the first side I noticed the bleed through. The bubbles did not overlap from one side to the other side but were within an inch. Made a conscious decision to mark more lightly on the second side to prevent the bleed. Damn I wish I took a picture.

Posted by: Gultig at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (9az4E)

303 He's one guy. We are individualists fighting collectivists. We have no organization, no coordination. Many of us are uneasy simply telling neighbors or co-workers who they support! If we can't even do that, then we're each on our own, not #inthistogether. They want to dominate us, we just want to be left alone. The leftist revolution here started slowly, it's quickly approaching the "suddenly" phase.
Posted by: Dark Helmet at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (Oka5v)

It sure did start slowly, about 110 years ago.

What you're saying is exactly right, and it's why all fiction has the good guys waiting until the very crisis to come together.

Are we going to come together?

Posted by: ghost of kari at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (Z4LGO)

304 CA used plunger-style felt markers on stiff paper stock for a long time. It wasn't an issue.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (uhPTO)

305 TO REPORT ELECTION ISSUES
Use the following link ... https://tinyurl.com/y3d9jxm6
The information you enter at the webpage will be sent to the Trump Campaign (who created DEFEND YOUR BALLOT dot COM).

Posted by: Kathy at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (3a9Uw)

306 >>280 Trump won you troglodytes. Posted by: ghost of kari at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (Z4LGO)

Beautifully mutated.

Posted by: Zod at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (ypWQJ)

307 154 According to this, there are procedures to count those votes:

https://tinyurl.com/yxssrpl7
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (d+Jcl)

Also:

Official Pima County
@pimaarizona

1h
Replying to
@pimaarizona
All ballots in which voter intent can be discerned will be counted. That's also in the manual. No ballots will be discarded because of the method used to color in the ovals.

Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (PwDhe)

308 Sheltered me, I thought we were all doing electronic voting these days.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (H5knJ)

309
"They said you was hung!"

Chad: "And they was right!"
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (ejd/p)

Hangman.

Hangman.

Hold it a little while.

I think I see my sister comin,' ridin' many a mile.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (Zz0t1)

310 Not to brag, or anything -- int he most grim kind of "bragging" imaginable -- but wayyyy back in 2016, I (and a few other commenters here) warned the world, and predicted "Watch out, America: Our newly elected Senator here in California, Kamala Harris, is the most ambitious and unprincipled politician this country has ever seen, and she is not only planning to become the next president, but she will stop at NOTHING to get what she wants. Brace yourselves for President Harris.":

When we first said this, back in 2016, all non-Califonians said, "Kamala who? LOL. No chance. Stop worrying."

But we persisted with our warnings.

And then earlier this year when she flamed out of the primaries, the doubters all said, "See, you paranoid Californians? She has no chance nationally. Your fears and predictions are baseless."

Fast-forward to today.

And everything we predicted, and everything we feared, is coming true. Just as we warned, NOTHING gets in the way of Kamala Harris's lust for power. She will rip the universe apart to get what she wants.

Biden is not behind all this cheating. It is all being done by the Dem Deep State bureaucrats in conjunction with the Kamala Harris team. I'm sure of it.

Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (HEEq1)

311 Just like in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, it will be the old disappearing / reappearing ink trick.

Posted by: Marvin Acme at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (BBWrU)

312 The Sharpie penis mightier!
Posted by: Sean Connery at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (4I/2K)

Shouldn't that be "Sharpie Penish" ?
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (8B6Ng)
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He didn't have the "sh for s" thing in the '70s. I rate this post as "historically correct".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (xRn8c)

313 Trump's demanding a recount in Wisconsin.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (sG4Hj)

314 Posted by: hogmartin at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (t+qrx)

Yes, I watched the ballot total increment to 116. Whether my votes actually registered, I have no idea. My Congressman won by 57%, so this is definite red district.
No idea if the entire district used sharpies.

Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (9UmRs)

315
So hand count the ballots. We need full recounts and vote audits in WI, MI, and AZ at the least.

Posted by: Broseidon at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (icI8A)

Virginia too.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (nAiE/)

316 "Amazing how many new commenters there are.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 04, 2020 01:23 PM (A5Eje)"

I've been an on-and-off commenter for ~ten years but leaving Twitter has left me with no place to make comments that are then ignored.

Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (pYQR/)

317 Were they Sharpies of color?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (63Dwl)

318 48 Do the McCains own a sharpie factory?

Posted by: Inogame at November 04, 2020 01:05 PM (+2xjH)

_______

Only in Chyna.

Posted by: ShainS at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (vVZVb)

319 Even the weather here is gray and gloomy.

Posted by: Welcome to Hell at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (Jjq0h)

320 Great...now we need to wear body cams to our polling locations and the poll workers all need name tags big enough to be made out on said video?

Posted by: Scott1M at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (umAvK)

321 Trump is going to fight any shenanigans. I'm thinking one thing we can do is donate money to the legal fight.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (PsI+X)

322 PDT numbers up in MI w 73 of 83 counties reporting. Fingers crossed!

Posted by: EveR at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (R0z7P)

323 My ballot was bubble filing and it said to use black ink. Which I did. But voters don't scan it directly. We give it to a poll worker who then drops it in a box. And then what happens with that box....WHO THE FUCK KNOWS?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (22mNy)

324 And everything we predicted, and everything we feared, is coming true. Just as we warned, NOTHING gets in the way of Kamala Harris's lust for power. She will rip the universe apart to get what she wants.

Biden is not behind all this cheating. It is all being done by the Dem Deep State bureaucrats in conjunction with the Kamala Harris team. I'm sure of it.

---> damn, zombie. At least kamala is a cop.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (v7Q8U)

325 285
270 The Sharpie penis mightier!

Posted by: Sean Connery at November 04, 2020 01:28 PM (4I/2K)

You're selling penis mightiers?

~~Posted by: Tom Cruise at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (Izzlo)~~
Asks Irish men everywhere

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (N39Ws)

326 Buddy and I were catching up on all of this madness.

My observation: we're in End Stage Rome.

Even if Trump pulls this out, and I don't think the media or social media will allow it due to their constant agitprop and direct lies, we're still fucked in the long run.

Bleak, I know, and call me an Eeyore, whatever. Writing's on the wall, boys and girls.

But there is a silver lining! Stock market's up today.

Posted by: Jack Burton, who says, what the hell... at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (yx0HS)

327 293 I'd also guess there's a good chance some longtime lurkers feel a huge need to vent at this point.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (8B6Ng)

/raises hand

I didn't start commenting until a few weeks ago, so, yes, guilty as charged. Been lurking for over a decade.
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (b3x5S)

===============

Only been around here a month or so.

Is that a bad thing?

Already been disenfranchised everywhere else 'cept the range and the church.

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (MkuC5)

328 I feel a Twitter lockdown for these deplorables is coming.

Posted by: Jack off Twitter at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (BYSRI)

329 I first read that as Shapiro. Eyes are bit wonky today. Ugh. Sinus headache. Trying to work.

PA is good still, right? I mean when I went to bed we were up by a lot. And up in WI as well. AZ seems to be a bit of a mess but I think we won. GA we won, right? OH?

Posted by: turambar at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (Gylu/)

330 As I said earlier, Trump should schedule massive rallies in Lansing, Madison and Harrisburg. PA should probably go first. Redo the Million Man March.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (vBPbn)

331 >>>Trump won you troglodytes.

True but not in the way you think.

Posted by: Champ at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (X3EqQ)

332 The real indicator of fraud is that voters are reporting that their pens were being taken away and sharpie usage forced on them. If you can use either, why force the sharpie usage?

My polling place had Bic pens, no sharpies at 6am. Don't know if that changed later on, but if sharpies were preferred, I wouldn't have known. In fact, I was bitching that I wanted a felt pen as used in previous elections, since the Bic made it difficult to fill out the loooooong list of judges (plus I'm fucking short, so I was on tiptoes half the ballot). Now, I'm thinking that at least they only had Bics!

Posted by: soulpile at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (rwZk1)

333 >>Frankly I'm sorta shocked that Massachusetts (which went 2:1 for Puddin' Brain) rejected "Ranked Choice Voting", and it wasn't even really all that close.

Me, too.

I didn't see any ads against it, but the ads *for* it were ridiculous. "Tired of not having a candidate you want to vote for? Now with ranked choice voting you can vote for who you want!" And the cartoon/graphic showed Candidate A with the most votes, Candidate B with significantly fewer, but then Candidate B winning. Yeah, how are we supposed to want that after 4 years of Hillz and the Dems screaming about the candidate with the most b=votes should win?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (bDqIh)

334 CA used plunger-style felt markers on stiff paper stock for a long time. It wasn't an issue.
Posted by: Chunk Hunger at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (uhPTO)
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CA used punch-card style ballots up until the last time I voted in the state (to my knowledge) in 1998. I wonder if they changed that after the 2000 election.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (xRn8c)

335 PDT numbers up in MI w 73 of 83 counties reporting. Fingers crossed!
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If any of those counties are around Detroit, that's not good.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (7Fj9P)

336 280 Trump won you troglodytes.

This right here is the hill to die on.
Posted by: ghost of kari at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (Z4LGO)

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I guess the question is what to do?

What does that mean in real life? Beat up people? What?

Posted by: MAGA (I got rabies for Trump) at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (eMEkg)

337 Redo the Million Man March.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (vBPbn)

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Now, we're talking!

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (MkuC5)

338 321 Trump is going to fight any shenanigans. I'm thinking one thing we can do is donate money to the legal fight.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Quee

---> trump will be harassed worse than pinochet once he leaves office. He needs to win.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (v7Q8U)

339 "Virginia too.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (nAiE/)"

I wouldn't waste the effort, VA is currently a pretty heavy Biden lead. If Trump maintains in PA, GA and NC, we only need one of AZ, MI or WI.

Posted by: Broseidon at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (icI8A)

340 "We will make sure every vote is counted." - Biden campaign

We can now steal that and throw it right back at them, right?

Posted by: fly at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (nTBtw)

341 221
What are we going to do? Serious question. Posting memes and grumbling about bullshit means we lose.

BTW I don't have the answer, I am asking. What are we going to do? Just let it happen?

I am for scorched earth now. There is no downside. They already
think we are dictators and nazis. Will they think worse if we actually
start fighting?

Posted by: Innagaddadavida at November 04, 2020 01:24 PM (hpbeA)

We decide what's more important to us: a) playing by the rules, or b) winning. For my entire life I've said "a", without hesitation. The left has chosen "b" (decades ago), and taken advantage of the fact that I and most decent, patriotic Americans have said "a." It's a really big deal when I say "b", and I now say "b." That's what I mean by street brawl. How far am I willing to go in lying, cheating, stealing to match them? I don't know yet. I'm new to this side.
Like...5 hours new.

Posted by: Matt at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (3J5Re)

342 How does the media have more updated numbers than the Michigan SOS?

Posted by: NVlurker at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (YkawN)

343 @31 the guy who checked me in didn't even tell me the touch screen was available, I had to demand it.
+++
in my precinct/state, touch screen is generally for people with motor difficulties. Not that we tried to hide it from anyone, it just wasn't on our radar for people who seemed like they could do the scantron version (took us two spoiled ballots until we realized that the lady with a shoulder injury would do better with that; not malice, just oblivious). That said, anyone who wanted to use it would be welcome.
=================================
@38 And ... the voting machine will not flag an "empty" ballot, only an over-voted one.
+++
True; I had people asking about races they didn't care about & I told them that leaving it empty wouldn't cause a problem (i.e., machine wouldn't reject it).

Posted by: deplorable me at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (n4fBZ)

344 313 Trump's demanding a recount in Wisconsin.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (sG4Hj)

It's within the margin to get one.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (s2VJv)

345 309
"They said you was hung!"

Chad: "And they was right!"
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 04, 2020 01:14 PM (ejd/p)

Hangman.

Hangman.

Hold it a little while.

I think I see my sister comin,' ridin' many a mile.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (Zz0t1)

That slut....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (ifmtJ)

346 !!@#@%!!!

I know why Medical MJ passed in Mississippi

They fvcking rigged the ballot.

65 and 65A were listed twice on the ballot. First time you could vote YES or NO to both options. Second time you could vote YES to either 65 or 65A, there were no options to vote NO on the second time.

If you leave the second one blank and scan in the ballot, it will error out because of a blank. So the machine asks if you want to fix your ballot or vote as is.

I bet a lot of people fixed their ballot. So that is how it passed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (YFlcc)

347 My thoughts: the point of all this isnt necessarily to win. Calling for Biden early and all this fraud is to sow discontent with THEIR base. Think how you feel right now with the prospect of fraud. They are preparing the battle space and energizing their troops.

Posted by: Gultig at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (9az4E)

348 If Trump ends up pulling this out. He needs an Attorney General that will go scorched earth on the voter fraud that happened.

Don't care that he wins, Trump still should demand a full audit of the entire election.

Posted by: Lay who za her at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (ZR7kf)

349 337 Redo the Million Man March.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (vBPbn)

=============

Now, we're talking!
Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (MkuC5)

Weapons slung, mags out.

Send a message.

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (MkuC5)

350 292 I'm fairly certain every country that had a civil war didn't think they were going to have a civil war either all the way up until they suddenly did.
Posted by: Azathoth at November 04, 2020 01:30 PM (o3eXo)

As they say about bankruptcy, it all moved very, very slowly, until it moved very, very quickly.

Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (pYQR/)

351 Anyone know the rules for recounts in AZ?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (22mNy)

352
Did Trump win Georgia? Someone on the last thread said it but I'm not seeing it reported

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (kw5n8)

353 Biden is not behind all this cheating. It is all being done by the Dem Deep State bureaucrats in conjunction with the Kamala Harris team. I'm sure of it.

---> damn, zombie. At least kamala is a cop.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (v7Q8U)

Don't rule out some of the GOPe. You can't believe that the McCain family is innocent in AZ?

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (ONvIw)

354 I'm guessing some of this was on purpose and some of it was by accident.

Posted by: Max Power at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (q177U)

355 ) My son made the joke of feeding his ballot into the "shredder"...

I say the same thing every time I vote. Nervous laughs, lol.

Posted by: dartist at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (+ya+t)

356 The pen is mightier than the sword unless you have dyslexia.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (pB6Gt)

357 WHich goes back to ballot design. Do the folks in AZ NOT know how to design a ballot to avoid this?
_______________

Are you kidding? The mail-in AZ ballots come with instructions that say to fill in the ovals using a pen with blue or black ink. On the instructions, there is a drawing showing how to correctly fill in the ovals . . . and it shows a big pencil filling them in.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (k4dH2)

358 Trump's demanding a recount in Wisconsin.

He can demand all he wants.

If Biden declares victory at 5pm, it's over.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (2JVJo)

359 317 Were they Sharpies of color?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (63Dwl)

_________

They identify as "transparent."

Posted by: ShainS at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (vVZVb)

360 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 04, 2020 01:26 PM (7Fj9P)

I don't think CA did anything quite that blatant, but there is a lot of stuff that set ups and funds new state agencies, provides exemptions to favored special interest groups, has sweeping implications (eg prop 20 including DNA collection for misdemeanors) that doesn't get mentioned in the ballot text.

Posted by: Sjg at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (gDSJf)

361
That slut....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (ifmtJ)

Well, when a little silver and a little gold isn't enough.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)

362 Yes, I watched the ballot total increment to 116. Whether my votes actually registered, I have no idea

The whole process is hidden from us. We vote and then...who knows? It's a long way from the booth to Harrisburg.

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (fFtVH)

363 "Only been around here a month or so. Is that a bad thing?"

Some people here are quick to scream "troll" when they read something they don't like. Ignore them. This site is for lulz and outrage. Expect much of the latter.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (qpX6U)

364 The left had no issues with AlGore rescinding his concession.

I do not see DJT offering a concession until any litigations are resolved. Thats how it works in business legal issues. You fight until the judge slaps the gavel.

Posted by: BluesFish at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (WQZ1O)

365 Also, Maricopa County Recorder has come out and confirmed sharpie ballots are counted and valid.
Posted by: H.L. Mencken's Ghost at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (GVV/B)

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Well they would, wouldn't they.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (nL4fk)

366 Biden win something like jellyfish. Or it win him.

Posted by: Zod at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (ypWQJ)

367 One of the lefty pundits last night went on a rant about how we are supposed to be the most technologically advanced civilization ever, and we have not sorted out modern digital voting yet? We are still counting paper?

I agree, that it is not as efficient. But I of course assume they want a more advanced digital system so they can cheat blatantly without getting their hands dirty, or leaving tracks. I am cynical like that.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (UvJJq)

368 In my corner of CA, I voted on my mail-in ballot with a ballpoint pen and Wifey used a fine point felt tip. Hers bled through, so she took it to the polling place and surrendered the spoiled ballot to vote in person, and she put mine in the provided dropbox.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (LpuJz)

369 336 280 Trump won you troglodytes.

This right here is the hill to die on.
Posted by: ghost of kari at November 04, 2020 01:29 PM (Z4LGO)

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I guess the question is what to do?

What does that mean in real life? Beat up people? What?
Posted by: MAGA (I got rabies for Trump) at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (eMEkg)

Not just yet but assuming we find ourselves our a Democrat administration we need to drive out leftists from the areas we hope to control. It's not nice, it's not fun, but it's a lot less ugly than the alternatives.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (Zm+LZ)

370 236 So is there any real possibility the House flips?
Posted by: Marybeth at November 04, 2020 01:25 PM (4pK1/)
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Right now from what I see R's are leading in enough races not called to get to 215 (just under majority)

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/11/03/us/elections/results-house.html

If this is close to bearing fruit, then the irregularities of the Biden numbers (Easily Surpassing the Messiah and Killary's votes) show something is very off here. (AKA create Biden votes out of thin air with >90% turnout, etc.)

Posted by: theATL at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (3leHG)

371 324

---> damn, zombie. At least kamala is a cop.

Posted by: official_redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (v7Q8U
Just because she likes to uses handcuffs and some of her personal talents to elevate her status, it doesn't make her a cop.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (N39Ws)

372 lol. White House now says that Newsmax is on all their TV's.

Eat it, Fox

Posted by: Marcus T at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (VpIIl)

373 Don't care that he wins, Trump still should demand a full audit of the entire election.
Posted by: Lay who za her at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (ZR7kf)

Spectacular fraud calls for drastic measures. Barr is not gonna help or he would have done

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (ONvIw)

374 If Biden declares victory at 5pm, it's over.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (2JVJo)

If Biden declares victory before the states are done certifying, arrest his ass for attempting a coup.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (jFNHK)

375 352
Did Trump win Georgia? Someone on the last thread said it but I'm not seeing it reported
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (kw5n

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The Republican SOS said there aren't enough votes left for Biden to overcome the lead. But several people on Twitter and elsewhere say there might be.

Make of that what you will.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (22mNy)

376 Here's the thing, doesn't matter what happens from here on out, the right isn't going to believe Biden won fairly and the left isn't going to believe Trump won fairly. It's a shit show because these states can't and won't play fair or with any competence when it comes to elections.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (4thlk)

377
Seriously.

100,000 ballots all for Biden and ZERO for Trump???

Stupidity, hubris or chutzpah or all 3.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (s2VJv)

378 Missouri still has the punchcard ballots.
Posted by: Jewells45 at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (nxdel)

Wut?

Ours up in the nortand were fill in bubbles.

We got ballpoints to use btw

Posted by: fixerupper at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (nw6Hr)

379 If it's Calvinball, it's Calvinball.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (jFNHK)

380 And they have a multi-year head start. The good news? We've got the best
street brawler on the planet running point for our side.
From one of DJT's recent rallies:

"They came at us with everything, but we fought. We fought, because we have to. That's what you have to do, there's no other choice."

This is a paraphrase.

God Bless This Man A Million Times as my middle eastern friend likes to say.

Posted by: kallisto at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (DJFLF)

381 I voted last night in Glendale, AZ and I was in fact given a Sharpie.

Posted by: Jason Didthat at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (uYpPl)

382 Trump back up to 25% on bovada. I think I saw him as low as 18%.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (2L5A1)

383 AZ has an Indian tribe that lives in the Grand Canyon and whose votes are brought out by mule?

Posted by: Jen the original at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (mpzfz)

384 If Joe declares victory, charge him with a Logan Act violation.

And appoint Flynn to investigate.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (oVJmc)

385 74 Did Ted Wheeler lose to the Antifa candidate?
Posted by: Mark1971 at November 04, 2020 01:08 PM (xPl2J)

No, it was 53-46.

Posted by: Too bad, Sarah at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (BBWrU)

386 PDT numbers up in MI w 73 of 83 counties reporting. Fingers crossed!

Seriously, where are you people pulling these "numbers" from? There are actual tabulations from the SOS, the AP is doing a tabulation, and a bunch of other "media" orgs doing tabulations, and pretty much none of them have "73 of 83 counties reporting" in MI.

They're pretty much down to counting the manufactured votes in Detroit and Flint now.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (4Yddh)

387 Some people here are quick to scream "troll" when they read something they don't like. Ignore them. This site is for lulz and outrage. Expect much of the latter.
Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (qpX6U)
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Come for the lulz and outrage. Stay for the boobs and hysteria.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (xRn8c)

388 This happened because Biden somehow got 70 million votes. This is insane. How does he do that?

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (v7Q8U)

389 If Biden declares victory at 5pm, it's over.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (2JVJo)

He can declare himself Emperor of the North Pole, it isn't over until the USSC says so.

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (ONvIw)

390 Contact the White House to show your support of President Trump:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (WkPC9)

391 378 Missouri still has the punchcard ballots.
Posted by: Jewells45 at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (nxdel)

Wut?

Ours up in the nortand were fill in bubbles.

We got ballpoints to use btw
Posted by: fixerupper at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (nw6Hr)

Fill in the ovals down here in Southern Mo, Jewells.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (bCLt0)

392 It's funny. I had a lot of fun in Airborne school back in the day. It was fun. Then I was first in my stick, standing in the door of a C-130 and thinking, "Wow, that's a long way down."

There's been a lot of talk about 'when do we start shooting' over the last few years. Well, it might be soon and suddenly everyone's an Eeyore. Knock it off. And because this is the Internet, I will now run my suck and spitball ideas.

Stop thinking about today, or next week. The Left isn't. They planned this shit well in advance and it shows. Think long term. What is the fundamental problem, here? Makers versus takers, individualists vs collectivists, and the latter are taking over. The current sociopolitical situation is unsalvageable and we know it. The most a Trump win here buys is four years and then it happens again, only even better this time because the Deep State is on their side. Am I saying a successful steal is good? No, of course not.

Stop wailing and rending your garments and get mean. Be prepared for what these people have planned for you and yours. It will get worse before it gets better.

Civil War One wasn't the end of the world. This is not either. The country will fracture, but that is also not the end of the world. The people, society, freedom of thought and speech and religion and the like, are what is important. The dirt means very little. Look at your communities and families and friends-- that is what a free country is made of, not the buildings or the corrupt Deep State or the eagle letterhead.

Biden is a meat puppet to very evil and very ruthless people. Any conflict will be long and very unpleasant and will take considerable rebuilding in the aftermath.

And to anyone who wails that its hopeless and we're all doomed to boxcars I have one word... Kurds. Who have maintained their integrity and cultural independence for two thousand years surrounded by some of the worst people on Earth. The capacity is there. It is not impossible or even close to it.

Posted by: Vanya at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (aKqzO)

393 I am ok with donating money to the President to help with the legal defense. Which website? However, I refuse to donate to the GOP.

Posted by: Floridachick at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (p5V57)

394 100,000 ballots all for Biden and ZERO for Trump???

Stupidity, hubris or chutzpah or all 3.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (s2VJv)

Corruption. Fraud.

They've gotten away with it for decades.....why stop now?

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (Zz0t1)

395 I wouldn't waste the effort, VA is currently a
pretty heavy Biden lead. If Trump maintains in PA, GA and NC, we only
need one of AZ, MI or WI.

Posted by: Broseidon at November 04, 2020 01:34 PM (icI8A)

It is not wasted effort IMO if only for the congressional races.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (nAiE/)

396 365 Also, Maricopa County Recorder has come out and confirmed sharpie ballots are counted and valid.
Posted by: H.L. Mencken's Ghost at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (GVV/B)

-----------------

Well they would, wouldn't they.
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2020 01:36 PM (nL4fk)

Fontes would say anything to make himself look good. Rat. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could spit.

Posted by: soulpile at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (rwZk1)

397 MI SOS Updated 1:22PM LOCAL:

Democratic
Biden, Joseph R. 1,732,573 46.37%

Republican
Trump, Donald J. 1,946,616 52.10%

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (MkuC5)

398 313 Trump's demanding a recount in Wisconsin.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (sG4Hj)

......,..

He has to do it now. Looks like there is a law saying a candidate has to be within 1% of the leader or less to qualify for a recount.

Pretty sure if the Dems can they want to get Wisconsin outside of that margin so that he cannot qualify for recount status.

So need to do it now.

Posted by: Greange at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (43ktw)

399 DJT's legal strategy going ought to be invalidation of a handful of states (AZ, WI, NV, MI, PA maybe, GA maybe) certifications. Theory...processes are hopelessly screwed up, can't come to a true determination other than by a restore, which there's no time for and no infrastructure for. So, neither candidate can get to 270. Thus shall Supreme Court rule. Election will then go to House Of Reps for a 12th amendment vote. Trump looks great in House under prescribed 12th amendment voting process.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (evxBY)

400 @377
Which would mean they are all fake ballots because 100k ballots wouldn't just have votes for Biden alone on them, they would have votes for other candidates, but the numbers for other candidates are not changing at all.

THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT!!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (iLThc)

401 This reliance on machines causes havoc every goddamn time. In the UK, they hand out pencils, and the ballots are counted BY HAND, with multi-party checkers to make sure nothing nefarious is going on. You can use a pen - one that makes a clear mark - if you wish. And thus a country of 67 million people gets an incontrovertible verdict on the winner five hours or so after the polls close. If power changes hands, the new Prime Minister drives into Downing Street in time for breakfast.

It is hard to believe that the use of a system that causes these problems EVERY SINGLE TIME is inadvertent.

Posted by: David Gillies at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (tjHrt)

402 @121
It took you 2.5 minutes to vote? Took me over 45 minutes! I mean,
from the moment I had the ballot in front and starting pondering the
first question, to the moment I dropped it off, was at least 45 minutes.

I guess you don't have state propositions where you live!
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You didn't figure out your votes beforehand? I marked up my sample ballot beforehand, and was out pretty quickly.

I'm happy to report that it looks like 16 failed and 22 passed. Unfortunately, it also looks like the LA County DA will be the carpetbagger from up your way.

Posted by: junior at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (TsHmb)

403 398 313 Trump's demanding a recount in Wisconsin.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 04, 2020 01:32 PM (sG4Hj)

......,..

He has to do it now. Looks like there is a law saying a candidate has to be within 1% of the leader or less to qualify for a recount.

Pretty sure if the Dems can they want to get Wisconsin outside of that margin so that he cannot qualify for recount status.

So need to do it now.
Posted by: Greange at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (43ktw)

Team Trump has announced it and it will happen.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (s2VJv)

404 Black Sharpies Matter

Posted by: dartist at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (+ya+t)

405 Biden more popular than Obama...beggars the imagination, doesn't it?

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (KfC1e)

406 >>As they say about bankruptcy, it all moved very, very slowly, until it moved very, very quickly.
Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (pYQR/)

Like the cause of death from jumping out of a building. "It wasn't the fall that killed him, it was the cessation of falling."

Posted by: Frasier Crane at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (CWMF2)

407 If Biden plans to declare victory at 5pm, why doesn't Trump declare victory at 4:30?

Posted by: DJ at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (O3/K+)

408 METH
They're normalizing meth in Oregon. Meth.

@BNONews
13h
BREAKING: Oregon becomes first U.S. state to decriminalize possession of all drugs, including cocaine, heroin, and meth, for personal use - AP/Oregonian

Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (PwDhe)

409 Anyone know the rules for recounts in AZ?
Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (22mNy)

Little early to talk about recounts when we're still days away from them finishing the original count.

Apparently the ballots come in from remote areas by carrier pigeon and burro.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (4Yddh)

410 Van Jones is a communist prick.

The pictures of kids in cages was under OWEBAMA you lying asshole.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (Zz0t1)

411 Meet the new "hanging chad," and the new SCOTUS issue. Probably one of many.

Will SCOTUS rule that every ballot has to be reviewed and, if a Sharpie was used... then what?
Is that proof of intentional Fraud? Do they just "fix" the vote with a ballpoint pen, under the watchful eye of a 3rd party observer? Do they, if they think it's fraud, invalidate the whole district?
And that's just AZ.
In WI there's the whole "where the hell did all of these votes just appear from?"

This is going to take a while.

Posted by: RobM1981 at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (ycn0s)

412 "Revote", not " restore" @399 above.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (evxBY)

413 Democratic
Biden, Joseph R. 1,732,573 46.37%

Republican
Trump, Donald J. 1,946,616 52.10%
Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (MkuC5)

Where are the counts over 2.5M coming from?

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (ONvIw)

414 >>> Posted by: Vanya at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (aKqzO)

Thank you.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (/kh7m)

415 Seriously.

100,000 ballots all for Biden and ZERO for Trump???

Stupidity, hubris or chutzpah or all 3.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (s2VJv)
+++++++++++++
Power of "and," JJ.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (hYcqw)

416 AZ has an Indian tribe that lives in the Grand Canyon and whose votes are brought out by mule?

Posted by: Jen the original at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (mpzfz)

Yes. It's the tribe that found Cindy and Bobby Brady when they got lost.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (xPl2J)

417 341 221
What are we going to do? Serious question. Posting memes and grumbling about bullshit means we lose.

As you might notice from my nic I had a bad feeling about this since first hearing of the Transition Integrity Project. We are on the organize stage.

Buy a used iPhone from Craigslist for cash
toss SIM card
restore to factory settings
burner email and ProtonMail email
anonymous Itunes account from library computer
cash to buy an iTunes gift card
download Signal
prepaid SIM card bought with cash
only use over public wifi, not cell service
gift card bought with cash to download VPN from Private Internet Access
wifi/phone off when not in use
SpiderOak for files storage - secure form of DropBox

Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (pYQR/)

418 97 MI SOS Updated 1:22PM LOCAL:

Democratic
Biden, Joseph R. 1,732,573 46.37%

Republican
Trump, Donald J. 1,946,616 52.10%
Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (MkuC5

.........

Omg. Yessssss!!!!!!

Posted by: Greange at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (43ktw)

419 Leonard Cohen "Everybody Knows"

"Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed.
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows that the good guys lost.
Everybody knows the fight is fixed,
the poor stay poor, the rich get rich,
that's how it goes,
Everybody knows."

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (HabA/)

420 346 !!@#@%!!!

I know why Medical MJ passed in Mississippi

They fvcking rigged the ballot.

65 and 65A were listed twice on the ballot. First time you could vote YES or NO to both options. Second time you could vote YES to either 65 or 65A, there were no options to vote NO on the second time.

If you leave the second one blank and scan in the ballot, it will error out because of a blank. So the machine asks if you want to fix your ballot or vote as is.

I bet a lot of people fixed their ballot. So that is how it passed.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (YFlcc)

Congratulations. In a few cycles, you can look forward to legalization passing on the pretext of "more income for the state!"

Posted by: soulpile at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (rwZk1)

421 Heard from a friend who is familiar with the remaining votes from NV.

Most of the votes that need to be counted are from in person voting from yesterday and should bode well for Trump.

For what it is worth.

Otherwise, I am dying here.

Posted by: Czech Chick at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (haWye)

422 And that's how you know this is all fraud, no other candidates are being affected by all of the found ballots for Biden.

Insanity.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (iLThc)

423 14 Holy shit! They gave us felt tip markers to use in Somers NY. Is that ink no good too?
Posted by: Iblis at November 04, 2020 01:01 PM (t/Ya5)

I have no answers, just wanted to say hi, neighbor! Yorktown, here.

Posted by: Toni at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (/c+mq)

424 Conservativetreehouse is calling for volunteers in Detroit, MI.

Posted by: Floridachick at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (p5V57)

425
@BNONews
13h
BREAKING: Oregon becomes first U.S. state to decriminalize possession of all drugs, including cocaine, heroin, and meth, for personal use - AP/Oregonian
Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (PwDhe)

It's still a federal crime and businesses still have the right to drug test and NOT HIRE for drug use.

This is the dumbest shit ever.

Good luck, Oregon.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)

426 73 of 83 counties reporting. Fingers crossed!

___

But the counties left are all blue.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (22mNy)

427 Posted by: pahound at November 04, 2020 01:31 PM (D2K2b)

Howdy neighbor!

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (48RE5)

428 BREAKING: Oregon becomes first U.S. state to decriminalize possession of all drugs, including cocaine, heroin, and meth, for personal use - AP/Oregonian

Because it's Oregon, which is far from me, I salute this.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (H5knJ)

429 MI Counties Not Yet Reporting:

ANTRIM
BERRIEN
CHARLEVOIX
GENESEE
KALAMAZOO
KENT
MONROE
WAYNE

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (MkuC5)

430 Recounts everywhere.

They all need to be checked with a fine tooth comb.

---------------

All recounts by hand and if any ballots have already been destroyed then that state or county has to vote again. Enough is enough but let's do this the easy way first.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (nL4fk)

431
I didn't see any ads against it, but the ads *for* it were ridiculous. "Tired of not having a candidate you want to vote for?
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Now you can vote for two candidates you don't want!!!

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (2L5A1)

432 @46 If Trump loses this because of rampant fraud, the nation is lost. Elections are pointless.

They've gotten what they wanted, which was to destroy the system. We're an embarrassment as a nation because we can't count our damned votes.
++++
Yeah, exactly. I worked the polls yesterday, and while I was energized by the high turnout (came close to running out of ballots for one precinct), I just felt exhausted last night/this morning.

Part of the exhaustion is from the idea (not certainty) that doing our best yesterday to help people vote (i.e., get registered, direct them to the correct precinct, etc) is just washed away by fraud. I'm certain that I & the people I worked with yesterday were there with an honest intention to help our community, but everyone else?

Posted by: deplorable me at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (n4fBZ)

433 IF Trump wins (PLEASE G-D) the first thing that needs to happen is to revise the voting system nationwide in each and every state. Failure to make reasonable efforts to prevent voter fraud results in that state's vote being rendered null and void.
1) Purge all the voter rolls. Everybody must re-register with valid, state issued, photo ID. This ID must include citizenship/voter eligibility status.
2) No more blanket vote-by-mail. The potential for fraud is too great to resist for the miscreants who will cheat.
3) Absentee ballots only for those who request them, and they better have a good reason. If you are able to go to the store or a riot, you are able to go vote in person.
4) Serialized paper ballots in all elections. All ballots must be accounted for and the numbers have to match. Let the voters select from a pile on the table to maintain anonymity. The votes can recorded and tabulated electronically at the time of voting, but the paper trail remains. As a bonus, the voter may, if they choose, record their ballot number to ensure that their vote counts as intended.
5) Any precinct that votes over 100% of registered voters gets tossed as this is hard evidence of voter fraud.
6) Any precinct that turns in 95%+ for a single candidate gets extra scrutiny.
7) Anyone getting caught stuffing the ballot box with fraudulent votes gets a minimum of 20 years hard time in club fed.

The above measures will not stop all voter fraud, but it will take a huge chunk out of play. This is one loaf of which I will gladly take 90% and be darned happy about it.

The procedure for federal elections really needs to be uniform at the federal level because the results in a given state have a direct influence on the country as a whole. We all know that the Ds love them some vote fraud and they indulge themselves in every election. It is way past time that we put a stop to it to the greatest degree possible.

I draw a real hard line when people lie to my face and steal from me. The left is not going to like it when the right decides it is time for retribution. The left is not going to like it when the right forces them to play by the rules the left put in place.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (JNTt1)

434 Magazine, Permafrost.

Dedicated to climate change scientist.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (pB6Gt)

435 but somehow other news sites have early data from Mi that shows Biden leading with both candidates well over 2.5 million a piece.

4.8 million total votes in 2016 with Gary Johnson getting 120K.

Um, I mean, a round of applause for basement biden's brilliant campaign. Not only did he avoid campaigning, he set a voter record.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (v7Q8U)

436 428 BREAKING: Oregon becomes first U.S. state to decriminalize possession of all drugs, including cocaine, heroin, and meth, for personal use - AP/Oregonian

Because it's Oregon, which is far from me, I salute this.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (H5knJ)

"They're animals anyway, so let them lose their souls."

- - Don Victor Stracci

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (s2VJv)

437 So legalization of marijuana was a gateway law...?

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2020 01:42 PM (2L5A1)

438 365 Also, Maricopa County Recorder has come out and confirmed sharpie ballots are counted and valid.
Posted by: H.L. Mencken's Ghost at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (GVV/B)

-----------------

Well they would, wouldn't they.
_____________

Maricopa County Recorder is a Dim crook named Adrian Fontes. He'll say or do anything to assure a Dim wins.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 04, 2020 01:42 PM (k4dH2)

439 >>> Biden declares victory at 5pm, its over.

According to the pundits like Plouffe, screaming about Trump declaring victory last night as the darkest moment in our nations history, just because a candidate declares victory does not make it so.

Trump will never accept that, nor will his voters.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2020 01:42 PM (UvJJq)

440 Posted by: Matt at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (3J5Re)

Me too. Been a few months longer than you, but the lockdowns crystalized a lot of things for me, including who I am willing to fight for, who I have no time for, and who I will stand aside for if they themselves are being destroyed.

Posted by: Innagaddadavida at November 04, 2020 01:42 PM (hpbeA)

441 I draw a real hard line when people lie to my face and steal from me. The left is not going to like it when the right decides it is time for retribution. The left is not going to like it when the right forces them to play by the rules the left put in place.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (JNTt1)

Well we better do it while PDT is CiC

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:42 PM (ONvIw)

442 I am very disappointed that you people will not just give up.

Posted by: David French at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (OD2ni)

443 ---> damn, zombie. At least kamala is a cop.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (v7Q8U)

So was Yezhov. And Beria.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (q+fko)

444 This happened because Biden somehow got 70 million votes. This is insane. How does he do that?
Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (v7Q8U)

"Biden" didn't get shit

"Not Trump" is well over 70-mil votes right now, and climbing

Many of us (self included) evidently grossly underestimated how toxic Trump is outside of his (granted, quite large) base.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (4Yddh)

445 This happened because Biden somehow got 70 million votes. This is insane. How does he do that?

Xerox.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (oVJmc)

446 400 @377
Which would mean they are all fake ballots because 100k ballots wouldn't just have votes for Biden alone on them, they would have votes for other candidates, but the numbers for other candidates are not changing at all.

THIS IS ALL BULLSHIT!!!!

---------

You are correct, Sir!

It's statistically impossible.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (jUVms)

447 "They're animals anyway, so let them lose their souls."

- - Don Victor Stracci

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (s2VJv)

...,,

Enough Fentanyl and we could flip Oregon in 2024.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (eov/j)

448 Fellow Missourians I stand corrected lol! I did absentee this year and assumed in person was still punchcard.

Posted by: Jewells45 at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (nxdel)

449
Team Trump has announced it and it will happen.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (s2VJv)

...........

Bam! Good to know, was worried about the Dems trying to get outside that 1% margin.

Posted by: Greange at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (43ktw)

450 so look, the MI SOS website is not counting more recent stuff that apparently other places are fine in counting. It's bad news.

Biden has had a stunning election, capturing the hearts and mind of America with over 70 million votes. Most of them cast by actual Americans.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (v7Q8U)

451 377 All 3 I'd say JJ

387 Did we get boobs? I waited last night until really late...LOL

Posted by: turambar at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (Gylu/)

452 I was noticing last night that new media was using the New York Times and AP and Decsion Desk to report yet those totals didn't match up in sync with totals from official individual secretary of States websites.
Now I know this was a thing.
I thought I was going crazy last night. I wasn't. It was fraud in real time in collusion with the MSM and big tech.

Posted by: THEN WHO WAS FEET? at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (rhjlA)

453 That old Stalin quote is still accurate. Doesn't matter who votes, what matters is who counts the votes.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (22mNy)

454 Our county in northeast PA uses Sharpie markers and we recorded 70% for Trump and our R congressman.

Posted by: Cosda at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (6M1RU)

455 >>436 428 BREAKING: Oregon becomes first U.S. state to decriminalize possession of all drugs, including cocaine, heroin, and meth, for personal use - AP/Oregonian

Yeah. That's what the people of Oregon need: *stronger* drugs.

Posted by: Zod at November 04, 2020 01:44 PM (ypWQJ)

456 438 365 Also, Maricopa County Recorder has come out and confirmed sharpie ballots are counted and valid.
Posted by: H.L. Mencken's Ghost at November 04, 2020 01:15 PM (GVV/B)

-----------------

Well they would, wouldn't they.
_____________

Maricopa County Recorder is a Dim crook named Adrian Fontes. He'll say or do anything to assure a Dim wins.
______

Agreed, but the office stating it allows any challenges against for sharpiegate ballots to be validated votes

Posted by: H.L. Mencken's Ghost at November 04, 2020 01:44 PM (GVV/B)

457 He can declare himself Emperor of the North Pole, it isn't over until the USSC says so.
Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (ONvIw)

Actually, for the laughs I'd like him to say something totally bizarre and get his words completely mangled -indicating thus again, how he is medically unqualified to be President.

I want Biden to get off the National stage and be taken care of medically and emotionally, but not until everybody sees what's going on.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2020 01:44 PM (WkPC9)

458 SE Michigan; my ballot box was equipped with a sharpie, and nothing else.

Posted by: zincfinger at November 04, 2020 01:44 PM (+Ub5Z)

459 The last local, I didn't even have a choice, tablet or nothing.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 04, 2020 01:17 PM (8B6Ng)

---------------

How brilliant, no paper trail. Only thumb drives with whatever numbers are needed.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2020 01:44 PM (nL4fk)

460 >>Yes. It's the tribe that found Cindy and Bobby Brady when they got lost.
Posted by: Mark1971 at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (xPl2J)

And then gave them the cursed necklace that resulted in the unfortunate surfing accident.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at November 04, 2020 01:44 PM (CWMF2)

461 Posted by: Bonecrusher at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (JNTt1)
++++++++++
There's another couple of things you should consider. This is similar to what I have proposed as well. Those two things are:
1) Every four years, to occur on the year of the midterm election, the voter rolls shall be destroyed following the certification of the vote. All voters must re-register before the next election, and no later than 60 days prior to election day.
2) Purple finger ink.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2020 01:44 PM (hYcqw)

462 Let's hope Trump is manufacturing votes in AZ right now. Fuck it. I'm ok with it as its well within the margin of fraud in the rust belt.

Posted by: MJ at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (gAMkn)

463 $&@& I used a Sharpie in Chandler.

Posted by: Phil at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (Ktosv)

464 Like someone else said, Bless Adam Crigler. He was not registered in time in his new state, so he flew all the way back to AZ to vote. And now he is a boots on the ground witness to how the voting went down, making them accountable for any fraud.

I love this, even if the rest of the day is a crap show.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (UvJJq)

465 458 SE Michigan; my ballot box was equipped with a sharpie, and nothing else.
Posted by: zincfinger at November 04, 2020 01:44 PM (+Ub5Z)

My kid was presented with that option, but waited til the lever machines were "working".

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (ONvIw)

466 Posted by: Bonecrusher at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (JNTt1)

I endorse this, except with replacing the 20 year penalty for vote fraud with "broken on the wheel, in the town square of the state capitol."

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (jFNHK)

467 376
Here's the thing, doesn't matter what happens from here on out, the
right isn't going to believe Biden won fairly and the left isn't going
to believe Trump won fairly. It's a shit show because these states can't
and won't play fair or with any competence when it comes to elections.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 04, 2020 01:37 PM (4thlk)

Yeah. So what? If you pause to worry about whether the other side will go along with you and concede like gentlemen, you're already done. The winners write the history. This isn't how I want it to be, it's how it currently is, right now. Someone is going to take office in January, and his opponents won't think he's legitimate. That's baked in the cake. What do you do with that? I'm fighting for the guy who I think won and deserves to be there, and not stopping to worry about whether the enemy will applaud for me.

Posted by: Matt at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (3J5Re)

468 >>the girl in the video said poll workers were TAKING pens from the voters and giving them sharpies.

what video?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (7Y5nA)

469 Meanwhile, you know which state we aren't talking about?

Florida

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (5p7BC)

470 If Trump was his own worst enemy, then his rallies were a mistake. He should've been calming the karens instead.

I was worried about this but didn't want to vocalize it.

But still...how the fcuckefe did biden get 70, even if trump hate was real when trump was at 52% approval.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (v7Q8U)

471 I want Biden to get off the National stage and be taken care of medically and emotionally, but not until everybody sees what's going on.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2020 01:44 PM (WkPC9)

I want him on a forensic unit with an estrogen patch slapped on his back

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (ONvIw)

472 What'll be really interesting is to see how quickly the Mexican drug cartels move into Oregon to set up shop. Of course, local LEOs will be prevented from enforcing the drug laws due to the new legislation. But they opened Pandora's Box when they decriminalized Marijuana.

Under a Biden regime, I don't see the Federal LEOs or US Attorney's Office taking the fight to the cartels because the political will be non existent- plus Biden won't give a shit. Should be very interesting to start to see the slow burn in Portlandia. The amount of addicts, murders and theft will absolutely skyrocket due to this new legislation. But the voters' consciences will be clear because another urban dweller won't be put in the pokey for using meth. Justice!

Posted by: Jack Burton, who says, what the hell... at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (yx0HS)

473 MICHIGAN: Antrim County Clerk Sheryl Guy learned of the skewed results in unofficial tabulations, the county said in a statement.

Since then, her office has been reviewing the results "and the multiple redundancies to search out any possible discrepancies."

"By this afternoon, we expect to have a clear answer and a clear plan of action addressing any issue," Guy said in a statement. "Until then, we are asking all interested parties to bear with us while we get to the bottom of this."

State Rep. Triston Cole, a Republican, told a local radio station that the results were suspect. There is no way that we flipped from 62 percent Trump in 2016 to upside-down this time around.

Posted by: At least the redundancies are multiple at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (BBWrU)

474 @realDonaldTrump 2m

Wow! It looks like Michigan has now found the ballots necessary to keep a wonderful young man, John James, out of the U.S. Senate. What a terrible thing is happening!

Posted by: Tami at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (cF8AT)

475 Did Lenin have a medical prescription for the weed?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (pB6Gt)

476
Yeah. That's what the people of Oregon need: *stronger* drugs.
Posted by: Zod at November 04, 2020 01:44 PM (ypWQJ)

==========

Nailed it.

A couple of days ago some wit on Twitter posted 6 pictures of the latest Antifa to be arrested. All were women and all but one had those meth marks on their faces. Someone is paying these people to mess shit up so they can get their fix.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (jUVms)

477 I'm Joe Biden and I am glad to accept the position of Presidizizedoodle of the U.S.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (WkPC9)

478 Maricopa County Recorder is a Dim crook named Adrian Fontes. He'll say or do anything to assure a Dim wins.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 04, 2020 01:42 PM (k4dH2)

Yep. He cheated McSally out of the seat in 2018 and several local elections magically turned Dem as well. He's been running around defying the court and claiming that he's basically god of elections. Whatever he says is legal, he claims.

Posted by: soulpile at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (rwZk1)

479 409 Anyone know the rules for recounts in AZ?
Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 01:35 PM (22mNy)
_______________

IIRC, there's an automatic recount when the vote is really close (has to be something like a difference of less than 1/10 of 1% of all votes cast), and no recount requests are allowed.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (k4dH2)

480 BREAKING: Oregon becomes first U.S. state to decriminalize possession of all drugs, including cocaine, heroin, and meth, for personal use - AP/Oregonian
Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (PwDhe)

Great idea. That'll help the homelessness (i.e., vagrancy) problem. What could wrong?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (q+fko)

481 Agreed, but the office stating it allows any challenges against for sharpiegate ballots to be validated votes
Posted by: H.L. Mencken's

---> this is a lie then because part of the problem is the people saying their votes were cancelled.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (v7Q8U)

482 It's still a federal crime and businesses still have the right to drug test and NOT HIRE for drug use. ...
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)
+++++++++++++
That likely won't matter much. I suspect the biggest outcome from this is that it removes a major condition that is used to round up vagrants and remove them to jail.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (hYcqw)

483 324 ---> damn, zombie. At least kamala is a cop.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:33 PM (v7Q8U)

I've never understood why Prosecutors count as "cops" and not something else entirely.

Posted by: Allie at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (vmRc0)

484 Oh fuck -- read this description of what is going on in Detroit right now. A total nightmare -- the fate of the nation hinges on this scene, which is happening RIGHT NOW:

https://tinyurl.com/yyyrh36h

"Detroit: Democrat Operatives Are Threatening GOP Poll Watchers"

"Things are starting to get a bit hostile down here. Just watched a Dem operative call 2 police on a young sweet boy poll challenging for GOP. Intimidation of GOP poll challengers is ramping up.

Heard 35k ballots showed up late last night.

There are several entrances to the massive room with over 1,000 people working. Any janitor could drop off boxes of ballots and no one would even know.

Media has big presence in room. Waiting to call Biden winner.

The Dem operatives with no names or identification are walking around intimidating poll workers. The big line is to back away from table so you can't watch process. One woman warned me I was endangering the lives of the workers."

Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (HEEq1)

485 Trump is going to fight any shenanigans. I'm thinking one thing we can do is donate money to the legal fight.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland

Thus the floods of donation requests for the last 2 months.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (3P/5p)

486 Wow! It looks like Michigan has now found the ballots necessary to keep a wonderful young man, John James, out of the U.S. Senate. What a terrible thing is happening!
Posted by: Tami at November

---> fuckefe

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (v7Q8U)

487 GA website shows Trump leading by 80,000, but a couple precincts in Fulton county (dem) not reporting yet.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (dNzKv)

488 Posted by: Tami at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (cF8AT)

I imagine John James will fight it as well.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (WkPC9)

489 RE: 395
Exactly right! If Trump holds PA, GA and NC (all of which are likely - PA because I live here), Then he needs to flip AZ, NV, MI or WI.

Some of those are more difficult than others, but thre are opportunities.

Posted by: kraki at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (TNa9O)

490
Many of us (self included) evidently grossly underestimated how toxic Trump is outside of his (granted, quite large) base.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:43 PM (4Yddh)

One advantage to living in LoCo, VA and working in DC. No shortage of exposure to the breadth and depth of visceral hatred for PDJT.

Posted by: Matt at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (3J5Re)

491 John James? Noooo

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (Zmnko)

492 STOP POSTING MI SOS NUMBERS

They are outdated.

Trump is losing Michigan.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (AJ/B4)

493 Fox is ready to call AZ in 2024 for the Democrats.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (sX1BW)

494 469 Meanwhile, you know which state we aren't talking about?

Florida
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (5p7BC)

It's something!

Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (PwDhe)

495
People... please!
MI = Michigan
MO = Missouri

Posted by: Pennsylvania Conservative at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (8DMvW)

496 470 If Trump was his own worst enemy, then his rallies were a mistake. He should've been calming the karens instead.

I was worried about this but didn't want to vocalize it.

But still...how the fcuckefe did biden get 70, even if trump hate was real when trump was at 52% approval.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (v7Q8U)

He doesn't, especially in an incumbency election. The degree to which things are cooked this time is crazy.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (Zm+LZ)

497 I specifically remember these sites reporting 95% of the precincts in, then waiting, then it was like boom 80 percent of the precincts reporting. I noticed this in Virginia, Georgia, then it spread West.
Fuck these war criminals.
We will need a few more GITMOs when it's all said and done.

Posted by: THEN WHO WAS PHONE? at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (rhjlA)

498 "gift card bought with cash to download VPN from Private Internet Access"

I've never used a VPN. I don't understand how putting _additional_ servers into an IP route makes me _more_ secure. And how can I possibly be sure that a VPN company isn't a commie honeypot?

Besides, I don't originate any traffic that's illegal or, frankly, even interesting to eavesdroppers.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (qpX6U)

499 >>469 Meanwhile, you know which state we aren't talking about? Florida
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (5p7BC)

(Folds arms, watches a dog with an arrow sticking from its ribs run through a trailer park being chased by a kid on a BMX bike smoking a joint)

Let's talk about Florida.

Posted by: Zod at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (ypWQJ)

500 I expected this apocalypse to come, perhaps when Pence lost in 2024 or later, but it's here now. The form of the destructor will be revealed when we find out if they also stole the house and senate.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (3AD8C)

501 481 Agreed, but the office stating it allows any challenges against for sharpiegate ballots to be validated votes
Posted by: H.L. Mencken's

---> this is a lie then because part of the problem is the people saying their votes were cancelled.
___

I can't speak for those people. i just know i've used a sharpie, in every election in AZ since 2000 and it's counted and validated every time.

Posted by: H.L. Mencken's Ghost at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (GVV/B)

502 State Rep. Triston Cole, a Republican, told a local radio station that the results were suspect. There is no way that we flipped from 62 percent Trump in 2016 to upside-down this time around.

----> biden ran a masterful campaign, people were enthused more so than biden...or the left stuffed the ballot boxes and there's nothing we can do about it

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (v7Q8U)

503 in 10 years

voting in person will be as quaint as a buggy whip

Posted by: REDACTED at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (R3uW8)

504 Wow, just wow. The lengths the Left has to go to to actually "win" an "election."

Their "candidates" are so incredibly bad and their "ideas" are so stupid....apparently, they have to trick people all over the country to "vote" for their side.

That explains a lot.

Posted by: Prime sistah at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (tQL7r)

505 480 BREAKING: Oregon becomes first U.S. state to decriminalize possession of all drugs, including cocaine, heroin, and meth, for personal use - AP/Oregonian
Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (PwDhe)

Great idea. That'll help the homelessness (i.e., vagrancy) problem. What could wrong?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (q+fko)

===============

So all the stoners move to beautiful Oregon.

Kewl. Works for me.

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (MkuC5)

506 Should be very interesting to start to see the slow burn in Portlandia. The amount of addicts, murders and theft will absolutely skyrocket due to this new legislation.

As long as they keep that in Portland, I'm OK with it. It's very Darwinian.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2020 01:49 PM (q+fko)

507 If Trump loses this because of rampant fraud, the nation is lost. Elections are pointless.

They've gotten what they wanted, which was to destroy the system.
We're an embarrassment as a nation because we can't count our damned
votes.

---
The upside of resolving our differences by force of arms, as humanity has done regularly throughout history, is that it's really hard to cheat.

Posted by: Methos at November 04, 2020 01:49 PM (kOpft)

508 I've now digested where we are and found it to be "not so bad'. Think Trump will pull this out but it will take time and be nasty. Dems shot their wad, again, and have nothing real to show for it. This would be a great time for Justice Beyer to die just for the entertainment value.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 04, 2020 01:49 PM (vQJZv)

509 >>Sharpies and thumb drives. What's next?

Lyubyanka-on-the-Rio Grande.

Posted by: some guy out west at November 04, 2020 01:49 PM (XpDOS)

510 503 in 10 years

voting in person will be as quaint as a buggy whip
Posted by: REDACTED at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (R3uW

Voting.

FIFY

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:49 PM (s2VJv)

511 I would imagine John James will fight like hell.

Posted by: Seems Legit at November 04, 2020 01:49 PM (jUVms)

512 Trolling?

Inconceivable!

Posted by: Dildo Schwaggins at November 04, 2020 01:50 PM (uizIZ)

513 voting in person will be as quaint as a buggy whip

Posted by: REDACTED at November 04, 2020 01:48 PM (R3uW

Do not worry comrade, state will vote for you in your best interest.

Posted by: AOC at November 04, 2020 01:50 PM (J70i0)

514 OD rate in Oregon triples.

Population control.

Also, dead liberal hippies.

Win?

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

515 >>> BREAKING: Oregon becomes first U.S. state to decriminalize possession of all drugs, including cocaine, heroin, and meth, for personal use - AP/Oregonian

We have had state laws repealed before... just last year the legislature did a ridiculous new food tax (on big poor Mormon families, you think they will stand for that?), and it was swiftly repealed the following session.

Hopefully if this law proves to be completely destructive to the fabric of society, it can be repealed. Of course it is the land of Portlandia, so...

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2020 01:50 PM (UvJJq)

516 508 I've now digested where we are and found it to be "not so bad'. Think Trump will pull this out but it will take time and be nasty. Dems shot their wad, again, and have nothing real to show for it. This would be a great time for Justice Beyer to die just for the entertainment value.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 04, 2020 01:49 PM (vQJZv)

Candygram for Sonia Sodomizer!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:50 PM (s2VJv)

517 514 OD rate in Oregon triples.

Population control.

Also, dead liberal hippies.

Win?
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

===========

Breakeven, at worst.

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:50 PM (MkuC5)

518 This coordinated corruption on a historical nature will guarantee one thing for sure.

The biggest depression of our lifetimes.

Biden will think he can just lock it down and print money.

The entire monetary system will collapse.

I sure hope you'be got ammo, because that's the first thing the ChinaCrats will cut off from accessing.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2020 01:50 PM (sy5kK)

519 D's overdoing the ballot harvesting to the point where Supreme Court invalidates results in enough states to prevent either candidate from getting 270, then DJT winning a 12th amendment vote in Nancy Pelosi's House of Representatives would be well worth all the stress and horseshit it'll take to get there.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 04, 2020 01:50 PM (evxBY)

520 BREAKING: Oregon becomes first U.S. state to decriminalize possession of all drugs, including cocaine, heroin, and meth, for personal use - AP/Oregonian
Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (PwDhe)

Great idea. That'll help the homelessness (i.e., vagrancy) problem. What could wrong?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2020 01:46 PM (q+fko)

The Libertarian answer is to outlaw outlawing drug use. Once that's done, then they go off and smoke a doobie.

Meanwhile, all the drug users show up in hospitals and morgues, and the nice people say "oh, well we gotta do something to help these poor souls."

So you get taxed out your arse, paying for it all.

Thanks, Libertarians. You've been a big help.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (hku12)

521 Trump tweeting that the have "found" enough ballots now to keep John James out of the Senate.

It's on like Donky Kong

Posted by: spypeach at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (Up/Jb)

522 They're screwing James now? They really perfected this in 2018.

If only we had an organization... a Department, say... that was charged with focusing on equity and law adherence... Justice if you will. Then maybe we could have done something about it.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (2L5A1)

523 Read an article that said for the 1st time, GW and Laura Bush will not say who they voted for. How precious!

We know quite well who the Bush clan voted for.

Posted by: Cheri at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (oiNtH)

524 508 I've now digested where we are and found it to be "not so bad'. Think Trump will pull this out but it will take time and be nasty. Dems shot their wad, again, and have nothing real to show for it.
Posted by: Puddin Head

Please be more specific! What makes you feel so confident? Everyone else is pessimistic as hell.

Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (HEEq1)

525 "469 Meanwhile, you know which state we aren't talking about? Florida
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (5p7BC)"

Alright. The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (VpIIl)

526 The upside of resolving our differences by force of
arms, as humanity has done regularly throughout history, is that it's
really hard to cheat.

Posted by: Methos at November 04, 2020 01:49 PM (kOpft)

Correct. It's just a real shame that people eventually need a reminder for why it is preferred to have a legitimate democratic process instead.

Posted by: Matt at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (3J5Re)

527 I don't know a lot of things...

However, I do know the theory and physics behind an optical scanner and I believe that a ballot filled in with a sharpie will work just fine. They have a problem with bleeding through to the other side, but the machine will definitely pick up an oval filled in with the sharpie.

If it didn't pick it up, the scanning machine will kick the ballot back out.

I know they're cheating, but this isn't one of the ways.

Posted by: jwest at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (/BlEx)

528 Well, all we need now is a war, everywhere.

I mean, history likes to sneak up on you and goose the fun parts.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (pB6Gt)

529 Posted by: Vanya at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (aKqzO)

Awesome

Posted by: clutch at November 04, 2020 01:52 PM (9UmRs)

530 Trump won this.

It may actually count at the end, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at November 04, 2020 01:52 PM (puu6v)

531 Something doesn't add up here. The scanner indicates whether your ballot was recorded or not. If my ballot wasn't accepted, I wouldn't leave the polling place until it had been accepted.

So these people inserted a ballot, the scanner said the ballot was rejected, and they just left?

Bullshit.

Scanners at my polling place used to just show the number of ballots recorded. You knew your ballot was counted when the counter went up by one. We had a newer type of scanner this time. After the ballot is inserted, the screen says "Thank you. Your ballot has been recorded."

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 04, 2020 01:52 PM (sWM8x)

532 Why do Democrats hate black people like John James?

Posted by: Marcus T at November 04, 2020 01:52 PM (VpIIl)

533 508 I've now digested where we are and found it to be "not so bad'. Think Trump will pull this out but it will take time and be nasty. Dems shot their wad, again, and have nothing real to show for it. This would be a great time for Justice Beyer to die just for the entertainment value.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 04, 2020 01:49 PM (vQJZv)

I agree. Trump will be Grant, and grind out a victory.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2020 01:52 PM (bCLt0)

534
We know quite well who the Bush clan voted for.
Posted by: Cheri at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (oiNtH)

In Texas. R's won more in Tx.

Fuck off, Bushes.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:52 PM (Zz0t1)

535 If you voted for Biden last night, you voted for Communist China.

The old skeleton was the Trojan horse.

I'll never forget what you did.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2020 01:52 PM (sy5kK)

536 528 Well, all we need now is a war, everywhere.

I mean, history likes to sneak up on you and goose the fun parts.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (pB6Gt)

I saw Goose the Fun Parts open for Toad the Wet Sprocket at the Tacoma Dome in '93.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (s2VJv)

537 A guess? It's not entirely a civil war -- they have assistance from China and other outside forces who want to see America destroyed.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:20 PM (bDqIh)

----------------

Let's not forget the domestic enemy - Big Tech.

Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (nL4fk)

538 Bongino up on YouTube now.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (qpX6U)

539 During the whole of a dull, dark, and soundless day in the autumn of the year, when the clouds hung oppressively low in the heavens, I had been passing alone, on a Vespa, through a singularly dreary tract of Pennsylvania; and at length found myself, as the shades of the evening drew on, within view of the melancholy House of Biden.

Posted by: Edgar P. at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (XpDOS)

540 492 STOP POSTING MI SOS NUMBERS

They are outdated.

Trump is losing Michigan.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (AJ/B4)

Shouldn't the official websites of the Secretary of the States be in charge of counting and posting official numbers? Serious question.
If not, we are these official numbers coming from? Another serious question

I want answers.

Posted by: THEN WHO WAS FEET? at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (rhjlA)

541 527 I don't know a lot of things...

However, I do know the theory and physics behind an optical scanner and I believe that a ballot filled in with a sharpie will work just fine. They have a problem with bleeding through to the other side, but the machine will definitely pick up an oval filled in with the sharpie.

If it didn't pick it up, the scanning machine will kick the ballot back out.

I know they're cheating, but this isn't one of the ways.
___

I was more concerned with looking at the actual numbers of registered voters/splits and vote tallies coming in where record numbers of independents would have to break for biden. that's what stinks to me

Posted by: H.L. Mencken's Ghost at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (GVV/B)

542 Biden could not get 50 people to attend a rally but he got 70 million votes!?

BULLSHIT. Fraud is only explanation.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (5bp/r)

543 140 Sharpies and thumb drives. What's next?
Posted by: wth at November 04, 2020 01:16 PM (v0R5T)

AR-15s.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (sy5kK)

544 BREAKING: Oregon becomes first U.S. state to decriminalize possession of all drugs, including cocaine, heroin, and meth, for personal use - AP/Oregonian

Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (PwDhe)

......

This would be a great way for Tennessee to deal with heroin and meth junkies.

Send them to a cutting edge clinic in Portland for rehabilitation.

I'd even be willing to give them $500 of walking-around money to spend while they are rehabilitating.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (eov/j)

545
I saw Goose the Fun Parts open for Toad the Wet Sprocket at the Tacoma Dome in '93.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (s2VJv)

He's good, g-ddamn.......

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (Zz0t1)

546 That likely won't matter much. I suspect the biggest outcome from this is that it removes a major condition that is used to round up vagrants and remove them to jail.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2020 01:47 PM (hYcqw)

I'm going to tell every vagrant I come across that Oregon has now legalized all drugs. Maybe they'll decamp to Oregon, which would be wonderful.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (q+fko)

547 Please be more specific! What makes you feel so confident? Everyone else is pessimistic as hell.
Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (HEEq1)
++++++++
I'm not (our) Puddin Head, but I think Trump is *probably* going to carry PA, GA and NC. If that pans out, he only needs one more - either of the Upper Midwest states, or NV, or AZ, to get there.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (hYcqw)

548 Fenelon,

Just want to say:

You are like a breath of fresh air today. And actually, every day. So, thanks for that!

Posted by: Prime sistah at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (tQL7r)

549 524 508 I've now digested where we are and found it to be "not so bad'. Think Trump will pull this out but it will take time and be nasty. Dems shot their wad, again, and have nothing real to show for it.
Posted by: Puddin Head

Please be more specific! What makes you feel so confident? Everyone else is pessimistic as hell.
Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (HEEq1)

Zombie, for my part, I base the optimism on Trump's nature. I believe he's not a guy to steal from.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (bCLt0)

550 If the sharpie allegations are true in AZ and PA, that means it's a national policy.
Must be emails about it somewhere. Dems are so stupid they always put it in writing.

Posted by: pj at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (qlTN9)

551 gonna put on my military cap for a second and segue to China, who is really behind a lot of this bullshit we are witnessing before our eyes.

With things in contest, look for china to make their move on Taiwan- either with PDT as a lame duck or when Sniffy Fingers gets in. They will then continue to enforce their built islands in the south pacific- and we won't do a damn thing about it. This scenario is beginning to look like early Japanese Navy pushes in the south pacific pre WW2.

Only way this gets avoided is PDT wins.

Posted by: Jack Burton, who says, what the hell... at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (yx0HS)

552 Who will be the first Republican to call for Trump to concede?

Romney? Yeah, it'll be Romney.

Posted by: MJ at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (gAMkn)

553
Biden Gang set to declare at 4:30PM????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (s2VJv)

554 514 OD rate in Oregon triples.

Population control.

Also, dead liberal hippies.

Win?
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

Meth babies born to meth moms.

Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (PwDhe)

555 Let's not forget the domestic enemy - Big Tech.
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (nL4fk)

I would not want to be a iPhone-dependent combatant in a civil war in a country with a grid as vulnerable and old as ours.

Posted by: Vanya at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (aKqzO)

556

Smart girl there that figured it out, and using her own pen.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (sfhL4)

557
Meth babies born to meth moms.
Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (PwDhe)

But there's an abortion mill on every corner in Oregon, no?

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)

558 Orange whip? Orange whip?

Posted by: Zydeco Ranger at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (fKiHa)

559 OD rate in Oregon triples.

Population control.

Also, dead liberal hippies.

Win?
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

You get hundreds of people dying in the streets and/or drug dens. Which has its own cleanup costs.

However, the real damage is done BEFORE they die. Your hospital and doctor bills are paying for all the freeloaders who show up, your insurance premiums then rise accordingly, and the taxers tax you to help defray the costs in extra police and fire and every other which way the community is paying for these people.

So yeah, no. They won't die fast enough. You die from all the money it costs you first.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (hku12)

560 The upside of resolving our differences by force of arms, as humanity has done regularly throughout history, is that it's really hard to cheat.
Posted by: Methos at November 04, 2020 01:49 PM (kOpft)

In warfare it's not cheating, just tactical brilliance.

Ask the Hessians.

Posted by: General Washington at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (hBDC1)

561 Who will be the first Republican to call for Trump to concede?

Romney? Yeah, it'll be Romney.
Posted by: MJ at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (gAMkn)

Three times Shapiro will say "I do not know him."

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (Ue4zo)

562 This would be a great way for Tennessee to deal with heroin and meth junkies.

Send them to a cutting edge clinic in Portland for rehabilitation.

I'd even be willing to give them $500 of walking-around money to spend while they are rehabilitating.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (eov/j)
+++++++++++
MN did this to Denver back in the late 90s or early aughts. Rounded up their vagrants, bought them one-way bus tickets to Denver, and it became our problem.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (hYcqw)

563 >>>[424] MICHIGAN ... Request for volunteers was made about an hour ago by STAND UP MICHIGAN organization. Details here ... https://www.facebook.com/standupmi/

Posted by: Kathy at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (3a9Uw)

564 And to anyone who wails that its hopeless and we're all doomed to boxcars I have one word... Kurds. Who have maintained their integrity and cultural independence for two thousand years surrounded by some of the worst people on Earth. The capacity is there. It is not impossible or even close to it.
Posted by: Vanya at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (aKqzO)

I would pick up a rifle and follow Vanya anywhere.

Posted by: Justasheep at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (L9Eia)

565 557
Meth babies born to meth moms.
Posted by: m at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (PwDhe)

But there's an abortion mill on every corner in Oregon, no?
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)

A bit late by then, but then again...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (s2VJv)

566 It's not entirely a civil war -- they have assistance from China and other outside forces who want to see America destroyed.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:20 PM (bDqIh)

Plus the fifth column "Americans" like Vindman, Weissman, Soros, and Bloomberg.

Posted by: trev006 at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (4m3T9)

567 551 gonna put on my military cap for a second and segue to China, who is really behind a lot of this bullshit we are witnessing before our eyes.

With things in contest, look for china to make their move on Taiwan- either with PDT as a lame duck or when Sniffy Fingers gets in. They will then continue to enforce their built islands in the south pacific- and we won't do a damn thing about it. This scenario is beginning to look like early Japanese Navy pushes in the south pacific pre WW2.

Only way this gets avoided is PDT wins.
Posted by: Jack Burton, who says, what the hell... at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (yx0HS)

Taiwan is a non-starter to take by force even without US protection. Casualties would be unacceptably high for modern China.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (Zm+LZ)

568
So yeah, no. They won't die fast enough. You die from all the money it costs you first.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (hku12)

Sounds like a state issue, not a federal one.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)

569 What the fuck is this bullshit. My friend's cousin is running in PA and he told me that they fucking ran out of pens at some polling places because they had everyone throw their out after they voted! how fucking stupid is this??

Posted by: Director Wray at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (q4X5T)

570 Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022
@TrumpWarRoom
"InsiderAdvantage is calling Georgia a win for President Donald Trump with virtually all the statewide votes counted."

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (sfhL4)

571 And we have an update on estimated # of Arizona early ballots left to be processed from some counties:

Gila: ~2300
Graham: ~1100
Greenlee 652
La Paz: 880
Maricopa: At least 250k
Pima: ~92k
Pinal: ~62k
Santa Cruz: ~3k
Yavapai: ~10k
Yuma: ~19k https://t.co/AVEYRMv0VP

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (dNzKv)

572 Biden Gang set to declare at 4:30PM????
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (s2VJv)

Sure. Why not.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (hku12)

573 161 There will be no civil war. Our side does not fight.

************************

This. The most we'll do is complain loudly while they direct us to the traincars.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Losing My Mind at November 04, 2020 01:18 PM (8YFRI)

Not all of us. I've already made up my mind what I will do if they ever come for me and my guns. I will probably die, but I'll fight before I do.

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (Fs5vw)

574 "So yeah, no. They won't die fast enough. You die from all the money it costs you first."

Narcan reboots them so they can have dozens of ODs before croaking. Even though they get angry when they get Narcanned, because it ruins the best high they ever had.

Posted by: It's OK To Be gp at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (qpX6U)

575 Three times Shapiro will say "I do not know him."
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (Ue4zo)

He'll say it every time! The man's a denier.

Posted by: trev006 at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (4m3T9)

576 Philly gonna have to take a break from counting to replace the printer. Biden has gained +200K votes today. Tell me another one..

Posted by: Okie Infidel at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (Pc+1u)

577 542 Biden could not get 50 people to attend a rally but he got 70 million votes!?

BULLSHIT. Fraud is only explanation.
Posted by: Duncan Macleod

---> he's very clever. I guess his money advantage was well spent. It's obvious bullshit, a slow motion car crash that team maga could do nothing to prevent.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (v7Q8U)

578 The real knife in my heart would be a quick Trump concession. That would take time for me to recover from.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (bCLt0)

579 Posted by: Prime sistah at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (tQL7r)

Thanks, dear. So are you!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (WkPC9)

580 Gee, would a party that made up stories about a SCOTUS nominee being in a rape gang stoop to vote fraud?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (oVJmc)

581 Sharpies will not invalidate your ballot.
https://twitter.com/Jackasaurus3/status/1324046097120075776

Posted by: Original Roy at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (dVsWK)

582 Taiwan is a non-starter to take by force even without US protection. Casualties would be unacceptably high for modern China.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (Zm+LZ)

Concur. I think they will take the Russian method of "Little Green Men" showing up and suddenly owning everything. Hell, I would wager 30% or more of the Taiwanese military is compromised. Shit, the Chinese compromised our potential next president and his kid!

Posted by: Jack Burton, who says, what the hell... at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (yx0HS)

583 That likely won't matter much. I suspect the biggest outcome from this is that it removes a major condition that is used to round up vagrants and remove them to jail.

Bingo.

All this drug legalization, it's part of the left's agenda to ensure that you are beset by the criminal element. How do reasonable suspicion to stop and probable cause to arrest work? Public drug use and intoxication serve an investigative and street-sweeping function.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (H5knJ)

584 So yeah, no. They won't die fast enough. You die from all the money it costs you first.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2020 01:55 PM (hku12)

Sounds like a state issue, not a federal one.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)

Sure. Let's go with that.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (hku12)

585 What the fuck is this bullshit. My friend's cousin is running in PA and he told me that they fucking ran out of pens at some polling places because they had everyone throw their out after they voted! how fucking stupid is this??
Posted by: Director Wray at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (q4X5T)
++++++++
Because of the 'Rona, I'm sure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (hYcqw)

586 578
The real knife in my heart would be a quick Trump concession. That would take time for me to recover from.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (bCLt0)
Come on, man. You know Trump. Conceding early isn't in his playbook.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (N39Ws)

587 It's important that when we call out cheating, that it's a real thing we're talking about.

When we have articles about things that are bullshit, the left will use that against us to brush aside actual cases of fraud.

Posted by: jwest at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (/BlEx)

588 Biden could not get 50 people to attend a rally but he got 70 million votes!?

BULLSHIT. Fraud is only explanation.
Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (5bp/r)

Catch me upthread. "Biden" didn't get shit.

"Not OrangeMan" got all the votes.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (4Yddh)

589 @RudyGiuliani 5m

En route to Philadelphia with legal team.

Massive cheating.

@realDonaldTrump up by 550,000 with 75% counted.

Will not let Philly Democrat hacks steal it!

Posted by: Tami at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (cF8AT)

590 The Libertarian answer is to outlaw outlawing drug use. Once that's done, then they go off and smoke a doobie.

Meanwhile, all the drug users show up in hospitals and morgues, and the nice people say "oh, well we gotta do something to help these poor souls."

So you get taxed out your arse, paying for it all.

Thanks, Libertarians. You've been a big help.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (hku12)

I say again: libertarianism is political philosophy for late adolescents in dorm rooms. And some older people who are having an especially protracted and difficult adolescence.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (q+fko)

591
Just saw Susan Collins wins re-election as Trump wins ME-2.

I should be happy I guess.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (s2VJv)

592 So it would seem that team Biden is going to try to declare victory at 4 or 5pm today.

Which would probably mean he has gotten assurances from enough of the coup states that they will certify their vote by that time, which would mean the MSM will call the election for Biden at the same time.

The pace is quickening.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (iLThc)

593 Wow.

Trump now up to 32% on bovada.

From 18% 90 minutes ago. The movement is real.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (2L5A1)

594 >>Taiwan is a non-starter to take by force even without US protection. Casualties would be unacceptably high for modern China.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (Zm+LZ)

Brockade. Number-one penalty play.

Posted by: Zod at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (ypWQJ)

595 581: Of course they will, scannable NJ ballots said specifically ball point pens or #2 Pencils only

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (ONvIw)

596 585
What the fuck is this bullshit. My friend's cousin is running in PA and
he told me that they fucking ran out of pens at some polling places
because they had everyone throw their out after they voted! how fucking
stupid is this??

Posted by: Director Wray at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (q4X5T)

++++++++

Because of the 'Rona, I'm sure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (hYcqw)
We did that in NH. Voters were told to keep their pens.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (N39Ws)

597 Taiwan is a non-starter to take by force even without US protection. Casualties would be unacceptably high for modern China.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (Zm+LZ)

Plus they can't be 100% sure Taiwan doesn't have nukes. Taiwan certainly has the intellectual capacity. Even there bombs could end China as a world power.

Posted by: trev006 at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (4m3T9)

598 Ban Narcan.

Posted by: Zydeco Ranger at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (fKiHa)

599 He should've been calming the karens instead.

Bullshit.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (EgshT)

600 569 What the fuck is this bullshit. My friend's cousin is running in PA and he told me that they fucking ran out of pens at some polling places because they had everyone throw their out after they voted! how fucking stupid is this??
Posted by: Director Wray at November 04, 2020 01:56 PM (q4X5T)

___

It was due to muhCovid. Can't have 2 people share a pen cuz cooties may get transfered.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (22mNy)

601 @RudyGiuliani 5m

En route to Philadelphia with legal team.

Massive cheating.

@realDonaldTrump up by 550,000 with 75% counted.

Will not let Philly Democrat hacks steal it!
Posted by: Tami at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (cF8AT)

You go, Rudy!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (q+fko)

602 593 Wow.

Trump now up to 32% on bovada.

From 18% 90 minutes ago. The movement is real.
Posted by: ... at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (2L5A1)

I assume Bovada is some sort of gaming site?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (s2VJv)

603 I did laugh when Crowder trolled, I think, Shapiro last night when he said, "Ben, I just today saw a picture of your sister...."

They struggled to change the subject.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (Zz0t1)

604 Biden will think he can just lock it down and print money.

The entire monetary system will collapse.
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Chine badly wants to supplant NY and London as the worlds banking center and a worthless dollar replaced by the Yuan would make them world hegemon without firing a shot. Well, only if you don't count their Wuhan Flu 'accidental release' as a shot.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (vQJZv)

605 589 @RudyGiuliani 5m

En route to Philadelphia with legal team.

Massive cheating.

What took you so long?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (Zmnko)

606

#ThePersistence
@ScottPresler
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Arizonans, please use this website to check the status of your ballot:

https://my.arizona.vote/PortalList.aspx

If your ballot was tossed, we need to determine why.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (sfhL4)

607 How about boxes seen taken out of utility vans from Virginia

Posted by: willow at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (ym/gI)

608 >> @realDonaldTrump 2m

Wow! It looks like Michigan has now found the ballots necessary to keep a wonderful young man, John James, out of the U.S. Senate. What a terrible thing is happening!
- - -

Aaaand there goes the first GOP win undone by late ballot counts.

Prepare for more, this is the Democrat's new normal. They tested the limits of this in 2018 (see Sen. Sinema) and they will repeat it.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (bDqIh)

609 MICHIGAN: (Antrim county) Gorchow mentioned it seems likely the vote totals were transposed. This means Donald Trump and John James (Republican candidate for US Senate) will gain roughly six-thousand votes statewide once this is corrected.

Posted by: Got the columns mixed up at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (BBWrU)

610 Sorry Rudy - far too late. Trump and his team needed to be there three days ago, with 12 hour shifts in these places.

No Volunteers - paid campaign people, with armed escort.

Posted by: RealityMan at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (xOBRH)

611 162 >>Sarah Gideon has conceded to Susan Collins. If James can hold on in MI the GOP will have no net loss of Senate seats. 53.

James will be robbed, and the January special in GA will then be for control. GA is going to become the epicenter of the next war as soon as the presidential shit blows over.

Posted by: disgruntled at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (DbqPe)

612 598 Ban Narcan.
Posted by: Zydeco Ranger at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (fKiHa)

This.

Sometimes natural selection just needs to be lifted by its sagging shorts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (q+fko)

613 At least they're stealing the election with decency

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (2L5A1)

614 Shit, the Chinese compromised our potential next president and his kid!
Posted by: Jack Burton, who says, what the hell... at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (yx0HS)

But then Americans have a substantial population of complete degenerates. Chinese and Taiwanese alike are shocked at how disgusting many in the West can be.

Posted by: trev006 at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (4m3T9)

615 592 Michigan does not certify for ten days.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (mpzfz)

616 593 Wow.

Trump now up to 32% on bovada.

From 18% 90 minutes ago. The movement is real.
Posted by: ... at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (2L5A1)

___

25% on PredictIt. It's been bouncing between 20 and 30 for the past hour.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (22mNy)

617 In early voting, we received pens, returned them and they were immediately sanitized and reused.

No one has died here form early voting.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (Zz0t1)

618 591

Just saw Susan Collins wins re-election as Trump wins ME-2.

I should be happy I guess.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (s2VJv)
Bitter pill to swallow. But as bad as she is, she is exponentially better than the ME Speaker of the House. She was as left as AOC.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (N39Ws)

619 573 Not all of us. I've already made up my mind what I will do if they ever come for me and my guns. I will probably die, but I'll fight before I do.
Posted by: Justsayin' at November 04, 2020 01:57 PM (Fs5vw)

That's not fighting. Everyone just says "Oh, I'll go out guns blazing when they show up at my door."

Congratulations, you've already given up.

You've just chosen "Suicide By Brownshirt".

Posted by: Allie at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (vmRc0)

620 Buy a used iPhone from Craigslist for cash
toss SIM card
restore to factory settings
burner email and ProtonMail email
anonymous Itunes account from library computer
cash to buy an iTunes gift card
download Signal
prepaid SIM card bought with cash
only use over public wifi, not cell service
gift card bought with cash to download VPN from Private Internet Access
wifi/phone off when not in use
SpiderOak for files storage - secure form of DropBox
Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at November 04, 2020 01:40 PM (pYQR/)

I would add, from experience -

- Never use the GPS or bluetooth
- Nothing Google Ever. The data Google pulls and can be obtained by law enforcement is disgusting.
- Faraday sleeve
- Pull the SIM when not needed

Posted by: Oldstoke at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (sb+Cg)

621 Someone said yesterday that the power of determining the 'time and manner' of selecting Electors resides exclusively in the State Legislature.

I think the Legislatures of these shitshow States need to step up and simply select the slate of their choosing, given this massive fraud.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (ufFY8)

622 Suckers!

Posted by: Joey Bidet at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (fKiHa)

623 How about boxes seen taken out of utility vans from Virginia
Posted by: willow at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (y.in the sweat while standing in line to vote

Posted by: willow at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (ym/gI)

624 @RudyGiuliani 5m

En route to Philadelphia with legal team.

Massive cheating.

@realDonaldTrump up by 550,000 with 75% counted.

Will not let Philly Democrat hacks steal it!
Posted by: Tami at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (cF8AT)

Bless that man.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (5FCda)

625 I assume Bovada is some sort of gaming site?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (s2VJv)

Betting, mostly sports.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (2L5A1)

626 Alright. The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end.
Posted by: Marcus T
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I'll be back into obscurity soon. No fear.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (5p7BC)

627 Because of the 'Rona, I'm sure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2020 01:58 PM (hYcqw)
We did that in NH. Voters were told to keep their pens.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (N39Ws)

In Maryland they came to you with a box for "dirty pens" and then sprayed them off and put them back in circulation.

Posted by: Director Wray at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (q4X5T)

628 Let's not forget the domestic enemy - Big Tech.
Posted by: Decaf at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (nL4fk)

"That's a nice data center you got there!"

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (MkuC5)

629 Just saw Susan Collins wins re-election as Trump wins ME-2.

I should be happy I guess.
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Maine is a weird state. She has been a team player as of lately. She came around in Kavanaugh and her statement of affirmation ended the shannigans. She is not perfect, but doesn't stab you in the back in the same way that Romney and McCain do. I say be happy for now. But expect some disappointment in the future.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (sX1BW)

630 615 592 Michigan does not certify for ten days.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (mpzfz)

No matter who you voted for, to put America through this shit is just pure fucking unvarnished evil.

That word is bandied around here a lot but what else is it?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (s2VJv)

631 Just went to the Michigan Secretary of State site and they have no results posted that ai can find.

Will go check again but for a Secretary of State to show absolutely nothing does not bode well for transparency.

Even Wisconsin is a mess. They post a punch of separate links to their counties and then each damn county has several links sometimes before you can figure out their results.

Posted by: Greange at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (43ktw)

632 611 162 >>Sarah Gideon has conceded to Susan Collins. If James can hold on in MI the GOP will have no net loss of Senate seats. 53.

James will be robbed, and the January special in GA will then be for control. GA is going to become the epicenter of the next war as soon as the presidential shit blows over.
Posted by: disgruntled at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (DbqPe)

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Even if he loses and GA is stolen, it's still 51-49 so won't be that big of a deal. Oh shit Romney. Damn you're right it will be YUUUUGE

Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (22mNy)

633 @559
However, the real damage is done BEFORE they die. Your hospital and
doctor bills are paying for all the freeloaders who show up, your
insurance premiums then rise accordingly, and the taxers tax you to help
defray the costs in extra police and fire and every other which way the
community is paying for these people.

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This is Portland we're talking about. What cops?

Posted by: junior at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (TsHmb)

634 536 Big Head Todd and The Monsters were the opener I think.

Posted by: turambar at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (Gylu/)

635 569 What the fuck is this bullshit. My friend's cousin is running in PA and he told me that they fucking ran out of pens at some polling places because they had everyone throw their out after they voted! how fucking stupid is this??
Posted by: Director Wray

That was true at my polling place too.

You HAD to wear surgical gloves to vote -- they wouldn't hand you the ballot until you put the gloves on.

The you were given a mini-pen -- short little ballpoint pen, about 3 inches long.

After voting, you had two options: Either throw the pen out in a special "bio-hazard" waste box, or keep the pen "as a souvenir."

But as afar as I know, they seemed to have enough mini-pens on hand.

My polling place was deserted, BTW. I think everyone in my entire area voted by mail. A huge room, and during the entire time I was there voting, 45 minutes, only ONE other voter came in. There were, like, 25 voting booths, all deserted. Most looked like they had never been used. I also saw only about six or seven pens into the bio-hard trash bin. And this was 3:00pm.

Posted by: zombie at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (HEEq1)

636 @RudyGiuliani 5m

En route to Philadelphia with legal team.

Massive cheating.

@realDonaldTrump up by 550,000 with 75% counted.

Why the fuck wasn't someone already there? It's not like we didn't expect these suckers of cock in PA to cheat.

Posted by: Director Wray at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (q4X5T)

637 If Trump was his own worst enemy, then his rallies were a mistake. He should've been calming the karens instead.

I was worried about this but didn't want to vocalize it.

Posted by: at November 04, 2020 01:45 PM (v7Q8U)

That is an analysis I guess.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (nAiE/)

638 Bill Stepien - suit filed in MI.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (3aLWR)

639 Funny how the Biden team 'campaigned' in Detroit, Atlanta, and Philly in the very last week.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (ufFY8)

640 Someone said yesterday that the power of determining the 'time and
manner' of selecting Electors resides exclusively in the State
Legislature.

I think the Legislatures of these shitshow States
need to step up and simply select the slate of their choosing, given
this massive fraud.
----------

I expect both sides will have a faithless elector or two. Likely won't matter, but never say never.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (sX1BW)

641 CNN has called Wisconsin for Biden.

Go figure.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (Zz0t1)

642 553

Biden Gang set to declare at 4:30PM????

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:54 PM (s2VJv)

Let them. They won't like where this leads.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (KnJdm)

643 639 Bill Stepien - suit filed in MI.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (3aLWR)

Good. Is James challenging as well?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (s2VJv)

644 Why would a scanner fail to read a mark made by a Sharpie? It doesn't make sense. "Bleed through" doesn't make sense as a reason, either.

My polling place used to use a plastic-tipped pen that marked like a Sharpie. And yes, it bled through the paper. Now they use ballpoint pens.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (sWM8x)

645 Biden will think he can just lock it down and print money.

Biden will think?

That's cute.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (4Yddh)

646 @RudyGiuliani 5m

En route to Philadelphia with legal team.

Massive cheating.

___

They're en route just now? Should have been there 18 hours ago.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (22mNy)

647 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE NEIL GORSUCH at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (Pzzpr)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (Zz0t1)

648 CNN calls WI for Biden

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (3aLWR)

649 I hope that all the CA "homeless" who are really just drug addicts hear about Oregon's new law and relocate up there.
Finally, a solution!

Posted by: pj at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (qlTN9)

650 Why the fuck wasn't someone already there? It's not like we didn't expect these suckers of cock in PA to cheat.

Posted by: Director Wray at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (q4X5T)

Amazing huh, but Director Wray said NO FRAUD

Posted by: CN at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (ONvIw)

651
They're en route just now? Should have been there 18 hours ago.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (22mNy)

Days ago....sorry. This is poor planning.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

652 Why the fuck wasn't someone already there? It's not like we didn't expect these suckers of cock in PA to cheat.

Posted by: Director Wray at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (q4X5T)
+++++++++
There were. Trump had legal towns on the ground in Philly a few days in advance. If Rudy is going, then I suspect they found something important and they need big guns to coordinate and move forward. If I had to guess, Rudy has been on standby for days to learn where he needed to go to target the worst problems.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (hYcqw)

653 I saw Goose the Fun Parts open for Toad the Wet Sprocket at the Tacoma Dome in '93.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 01:53 PM (s2VJv)

thats a good one.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (7Y5nA)

654 649 I hope that all the CA "homeless" who are really just drug addicts hear about Oregon's new law and relocate up there.
Finally, a solution!

Posted by: pj at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (qlTN9)

ISWYDT

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (s2VJv)

655 The Senate is only of interest to me if the Donald survives. I literally give no fucks about the GOP beyond him. Full Venezuela? Fine by me. Enjoy your boiled shoes, comrade.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (H5knJ)

656 JJ ten day certification is Michigan s normal procedure.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (mpzfz)

657 643 639 Bill Stepien - suit filed in MI.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 04, 2020 02:02 PM (3aLWR)

Good. Is James challenging as well?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 02:03 PM (s2VJv

He should most definitely do so.

Trump should also file suit in WI to gain access to recount.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (3aLWR)

658 CNN calls WI for Biden

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 0

Need to get him to 270 before his 5pm speech

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (AJ/B4)

659 630

No matter who you voted for, to put America through this shit is just pure fucking unvarnished evil.

That word is bandied around here a lot but what else is it?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 02:01 PM (s2VJv)

I would say destroying faith in all of our institutions. Someone said that if you don't believe in anything, you are ready to believe anything.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (bCLt0)

660 @RudyGiuliani 5m

En route to Philadelphia with legal team.

Better than a DOJ announcement, that's for sure. Dude's a private citizen doing the work of our nation's law enforcement bureaucracy.

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (/2aWP)

661 I looked upon the face before me --upon the mere scalp, and the simple features of the hair plugs --upon the bleak mask --upon the vacant slit-like eyes --upon a few rank whiskers --with an utter depression of soul which I can compare to no earthly sensation more properly than to the after-dream of the reveller upon opium --the bitter lapse into everyday life --the hideous dropping off of the face diaper.

Posted by: Edgar P. at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (XpDOS)

662 NOOD Luntz

Posted by: Dark Helmet at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (Oka5v)

663 - Never use the GPS or bluetooth
- Nothing Google Ever. The data Google pulls and can be obtained by law enforcement is disgusting.
- Faraday sleeve
- Pull the SIM when not needed
Posted by: Oldstoke at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (sb+Cg)

- Never stay in one place for more than ten minutes.
- You'd better have a way to keep your face off cameras (easier these days)
- Try to go to different places and avoid routine.

Posted by: trev006 at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (4m3T9)

664 Posted by: Oldstoke at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (sb+Cg)

Good stuff Oldstoke. And I don't have to tell you, but maybe for others, do not use the fingerprint password on your electronics.

Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (pYQR/)

665 Funny how the Biden team 'campaigned' in Detroit, Atlanta, and Philly in the very last week.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at

Several here noticed how "funny" it was.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (2L5A1)

666 I still believe that Trump will win this fight. Look at PDT's high energy, smarts, and definitely know what is at stake.

If Biden somehow wins, I can't wait to see the blithering, senile old coot deal with hostile nations. How long before he would call China's President a chink while making slant eyes with his fingers.

Posted by: Cheri at November 04, 2020 02:05 PM (oiNtH)

667 >>CNN has called Wisconsin for Biden.

Honestly, I don't care what any MSM outlet calls a state. This has always been BS, and only gotten worse in recent years.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 04, 2020 02:05 PM (bDqIh)

668 I hope that all the CA "homeless" who are really just drug addicts hear about Oregon's new law and relocate up there.

Finally, a solution!

Buy stock in Oregon crematoriums?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at November 04, 2020 02:05 PM (SchxB)

669 656 JJ ten day certification is Michigan s normal procedure.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (mpzfz)

Still evil given these conditions.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 04, 2020 02:05 PM (s2VJv)

670 397
MI SOS Updated 1:22PM LOCAL:

Democratic

Biden, Joseph R. 1,732,573 46.37%

Republican

Trump, Donald J. 1,946,616 52.10%

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 04, 2020 01:39 PM (MkuC5)

Sorry, they are far, far behind. Biden: 2,622,108, Trump 2,575,727

Posted by: jim at November 04, 2020 02:05 PM (ynpvh)

671 How about boxes seen taken out of utility vans from Virginia
Posted by: willow at November 04, 2020 01:59 PM (y.in the sweat while standing in line to vote
Posted by: willow at November 04, 2020 02:01

In the southwest

Posted by: willow at November 04, 2020 02:05 PM (ym/gI)

672 528 Well, all we need now is a war, everywhere.

I mean, history likes to sneak up on you and goose the fun parts.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2020 01:51 PM (pB6Gt)

SURPRISE!!

Posted by: Communist Otters, stealing the election at November 04, 2020 02:05 PM (sy5kK)

673 571 And we have an update on estimated # of Arizona early ballots left to be processed from some counties:
Maricopa: At least 250k

Can't imagine Adrian Fontes (Maricopa Country Recorder) will let Trump win.

Posted by: Elections have consequences at November 04, 2020 02:05 PM (BBWrU)

674 Kurds. Who have maintained their integrity and cultural independence for two thousand years surrounded by some of the worst people on Earth. The capacity is there. It is not impossible or even close to it.
Posted by: Vanya at November 04, 2020 01:38 PM (aKqzO)

Yes! This is so awesome and quite true.

I was just out doing a little shopping, it's such a beautiful day. I saw some friends out and about, chatted with the clerk.

Life is still quite good here in America, Joe and Kammie notwithstanding.

They have absolutely no mandate, and politics in our country ebb and flow constantly. It's possible the cheating will be proven and we'll be good. If not, let's get on with it in 2022. No one really wanted Joe and Kammie. But they were the 'safer' choice for 'rona scaredy cats. That's it.

Posted by: lizabth at November 04, 2020 02:05 PM (L3Rsz)

675 >> Enjoy your boiled shoes, comrade.

Shoe. Ration card permit only one shoe per week, comrade.

Posted by: some guy out west at November 04, 2020 02:06 PM (XpDOS)

676 @realDonaldTrump 2m

Wow! It looks like Michigan has now found the ballots necessary to keep a wonderful young man, John James, out of the U.S. Senate. What a terrible thing is happening!

...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 04, 2020 02:06 PM (sfhL4)

677 561 Who will be the first Republican to call for Trump to concede?

Romney? Yeah, it'll be Romney.
---

I published a list in order two weeks ago. The McCain embezzler wife should be at Romney's side with Ryan on the other side. It's extra fun when W does it. Maybe holding hands with big Mike O.

Posted by: Gilded at November 04, 2020 02:06 PM (H4AGs)

678 CNN calls WI for Biden
Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 0

Need to get him to 270 before his 5pm speech
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (AJ/B4)

Yep! NV and MI will come at 4 and 4:30 EST, or there about

270 EV baby! Woo!! (spits)

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at November 04, 2020 02:07 PM (4Yddh)

679
Now it is obvious why Biden stayed in the basement.

This election was rigged from the start.

Biden in public only lost votes. Made the rigging that much harder.

And the press. Lamp posts cry their names.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 04, 2020 02:07 PM (sy5kK)

680 And let me just round this willowed thread out with a bit of light reading:

The Accidental Guerrilla
War of the Flea
Counterinsurgency
The Sling and the Stone
Counter-Guerrilla Operations
A Savage War of Peace
The Book of Five Rings

Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at November 04, 2020 02:07 PM (pYQR/)

681 if Biden wins? My advice: buy stocks in companies like Amazon, because they'll do even more business when Pres Biden orders another lock down until no one dies for at least a week.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at November 04, 2020 02:08 PM (4a9Vv)

682 That sounds like wishcasting. MN's optical scanners check dark/light, not type of ink.

Posted by: Two Weeks at November 04, 2020 02:08 PM (l/yGW)

683 @393 I am ok with donating money to the President to help with the legal defense. Which website? However, I refuse to donate to the GOP.
++++
Seconded.

Posted by: deplorable me at November 04, 2020 02:08 PM (n4fBZ)

684 MI Secretary State update 2:03pm

Biden: 1,766,413

Trump: 2,000,121

76/83 counties

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 04, 2020 02:10 PM (N39Ws)

685
Congratulations, you've already given up.

You've just chosen "Suicide By Brownshirt".
Posted by: Allie at November 04, 2020 02:00 PM (vmRc0)

I know. You'll just give them everything and enjoy the tyranny. I guess you've got it covered. Maybe you'll write damning letters to the editor that will never get printed. You'll never give that up.

But I'm sure you'll always be looking for ways to stick it to the man.

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 04, 2020 02:10 PM (Fs5vw)

686 632 Even if he loses and GA is stolen, it's still 51-49 so won't be that big of a deal. Oh shit Romney. Damn you're right it will be YUUUUGE

My bad, AP hasn't called Perdue yet, so I was off by one. Nevertheless, Perdue is at 50.6, so if there are shenanigans that bring him below 50% and into a runoff, then the shit will really fly.

I'm not that worried about Romney and Collins. Yes, they'll want to work with their friends across the aisle, but I can't see them supporting power grabs like packing the court and adding states.

Posted by: disgruntled at November 04, 2020 02:10 PM (DbqPe)

687 If you like your drugs, you can keep your drugs.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2020 02:11 PM (pB6Gt)

688 @433 1) Purge all the voter rolls.

==============================
In WY, we only vote in alternate/even-numbered years; anyone who misses an election gets purged from the rolls. We had so many people yesterday complaining a bit that they had to re-register since they voted in 2016 but not 2018.

Frequent purges like this won't necessarily stop fraud, but I'd rather have frequent purges instead of having people on the rolls who haven't voted in 30yrs.

Posted by: deplorable me at November 04, 2020 02:16 PM (n4fBZ)

689 CNN calls WI for Biden

Posted by: AlaBAMA at November 0

Need to get him to 270 before his 5pm speech

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at November 04, 2020 02:04 PM (AJ/B4)

I asked and asked and asked - if enough blue states simply refuse to certify a Trump win, and the media goes along with it - who stops them ? How would you and I even know ? And if a blue state simply makes up a number and adds it to the Biden total to flip their state - how does that get stopped ?

I got plenty of "Trump always has a plan" in reply. Also several helpful suggestions to either get back on my meds or consider some. But I never got anything resembling a detailed answer. Just vague "in Trump we trust" slogans.

Posted by: English Lycanthrope at November 04, 2020 02:19 PM (ggiQo)

690 Rush is giving Chris Christie a well deserved rodgering.

Posted by: BluesFish at November 04, 2020 02:19 PM (WQZ1O)

691 Here is what the NY Times Arizona page is saying:

"According to turnout estimates, around 310,000 votes remain in counties won by Trump in 2016. Clinton 2016 counties have around 70,000 votes left to report."

Trump 1,317,568
Biden 1,411,086

Pct reporting 0.86

Posted by: Captain Oblivious at November 04, 2020 02:20 PM (Astxw)

692 I'm too busy to follow this bullshit today... Is it a lock for Harris yet?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 04, 2020 02:22 PM (cYs0C)

693 I'm sorry - it's too late to send lawyers in. Trump should have had paid campaign people in these cities, in these central vote-counting areas. He should have had teams of lawyers.

He's got the money... if you think they were going to steal, then you should have more than volunteers on 12 hours shifts there, you should have had paid people doing this and should have been striking these things down instantly.

Posted by: RealityMan at November 04, 2020 02:23 PM (xOBRH)

694 644
Why would a scanner fail to read a mark made by a Sharpie? It doesn't
make sense. "Bleed through" doesn't make sense as a reason, either.

The thing that worried me was something on the ballot that said something like inadvertent marks on the ballot could cause it to be invalidated. That made me careful not to mark anything but my vote. Turn the thing over and it all bled through. Didn't think anything of it until today. The machine didn't kick it back out but I didn't think to look for a counter on it.

Posted by: dartist at November 04, 2020 02:25 PM (+ya+t)

695 Breitbart has literally not updated their site since yesterday.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Losing My Mind at November 04, 2020 02:32 PM (8YFRI)

696 MI is very upsetting. I guess people prefer living on enhanced unemployment over having jobs.

Posted by: NVlurker at November 04, 2020 02:33 PM (YkawN)

697 This is curious, I've been using Sharpies for years with no difficulty. I've read that they are recommended along with traditional blue or black pens (biros). Maybe it has something to with the readers. Also, there are more than one type of Sharpie, some with higher alcohol content that make them less soluble and more permanent when marking on certain types of surfaces such as glass.

Posted by: Waalybob at November 04, 2020 02:39 PM (rX33f)

698 692 I'm too busy to follow this bullshit today... Is it a lock for Harris yet?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 04, 2020 02:22 PM (cYs0C)

Youre right she's their candidate. It's not over til the audits and the court case. theyre setting up their preplanned riots at the moment.

Posted by: Gilded at November 04, 2020 02:54 PM (H4AGs)

699 Well that's weird, we always used a black sharpie placed in the booth to mark our little circles. Since the beginning of time. All of us. They didn't hand them out they were there. Now we have to use golf pencils and throw them away, COVID. Then we put the ballot into the machine that counts them.

Posted by: Jaimo at November 04, 2020 02:57 PM (/Kt3K)

700 The Matt Schlapp tweet now has a Twitter warning:

Some or all of the content shared in this Tweet is disputed and might be misleading about an election or other civic process.

Posted by: SMOD at November 04, 2020 02:57 PM (3aI0K)

701 693 >>>I'm sorry
Posted by: (un) RealityMan at November 04, 2020 02:23 PM (xOBRH)

You sure are.

Pick up your concern and throw it in the trash. No littering.

Posted by: Gilded at November 04, 2020 02:58 PM (H4AGs)

702 The son of former MLB legend Gary Sheffield is pushing this, as he had the same thing happen and now he said his vote is listed as "canceled."

If this is true not only do all those votes need to be hand counted, everyone who gave out sharpies knowing they wouldn't work need to be jailed.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 04, 2020 10:11 PM (Wx49j)

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Poll Workers Gave Sharpies to Voters In Trump Districts.
Sharpie Marks Do Not Read on Optical Scanners, So Thousands of Trump Votes Were Made Invisible.