"<b>V</b>" Shaped Or "<b>K</b>" Shaped Recovery Depends On What You Do And Where You Live

"V" Shaped Or "K" Shaped Recovery Depends On What You Do And Where You Live

As if the attempted destruction of our economy to destroy President Trump wasn't enough for the Acela-Hyde Park-Madison-Austin-SF-Portland Malibu corridor!

The drive to shift their economies to a non-manufacturing-high-"education" work force has allowed many of their most vocal supporters to continue to work from via the internet. And isn't that lovely...except that the service industries that support those slim-hipped hipsters have been crushed. All of those line cooks and dishwashers and janitors and sales clerks and maintenance men and cab drivers and the hundreds of other segments of the economy that can't pick up their tools and work from home have been disproportionately impacted by the draconian Wuhan Flu rules that governors and mayors in mostly blue states (but sadly some red!) have enacted. Their deepest masturbatory fantasies of being supreme rulers have been satisfied!

Here is Coyote Blog discussing that point, with an additional theory about just who was most impacted.

"Work From Home & Socialize via Zoom" Is the Height of Elite Priviledge [sic]

I have been pointing out since April that stay at home orders tend to be supported by folks who either a) are rich with lots of savings; b) have professional jobs and can work from home (eg journalists) or c) get paid even if they don't work (eg government workers and teachers). A lot of folks on the Left that lecture the rest of us constantly on privilege have shown zero self-awareness in advocating for the most privilege-biased government order in my memory.
So it should not be shocking that the results of the COVID business lockdowns have disproportionately hit lower income and less educated workers.

I would like to see some additional data about the economic impact by state, and whether the budding fascists in NY and CA and IL and several other blue states have been worse for their most vulnerable workers than the typical red state governors.

As for his last sentence? maybe, maybe not, but it's interesting.

I think there is a good chance other cultures more used to relying on larger networks and multi-generational extended families are having a particularly hard time with the order to limit social contact to zoom.

My observations of NYC suggest that it is the politically vulnerable minorities that are most impacted. And who are they? Orthodox Jews have borne the brunt of de Blasio and Cuomo's crackdowns, but large gatherings of other minorities have been allowed to a much greater degree by the jack-booted thugs of government.

It will be interesting to see the voting patterns this November!

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1 Good Morning Horde....

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 18, 2020 12:01 PM (FnwlK)

2 My first "first"...!!!

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 18, 2020 12:01 PM (FnwlK)

3 Wait....where is everybody....?

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 18, 2020 12:02 PM (FnwlK)

4 Good morning horde!

Dreary day here in Colorado.........hopefully will help beat back the numerous fires

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 18, 2020 12:03 PM (/UQ/R)

5 Good afternoon

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 12:05 PM (ONvIw)

6 I have a new job that has been unaffected, or maybe even a counter, by the china coof. My previous job was convention events and was devastated.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 18, 2020 12:05 PM (LxTcq)

7 3 Wait....where is everybody....?
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Ca at October 18, 2020 12:02 PM (FnwlK)

Truthfully, I think everyone is wearing down.

The pace of the news cycle (i.e. the latest outrage of the day) is a bit overwhelming.

That MoMe in Texas is just the ticket to re-invigorate the Horde.

Posted by: browndog at October 18, 2020 12:06 PM (BgMrQ)

8 Orthodox Jews will vote Trump, the others won't. My NYC inlaws are totally Biden "he may be corrupt but he's what the country needs". I'm glad their real estate is falling in value.

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 12:07 PM (ONvIw)

9 For a few months I did all my shopping in mask exempt counties. Now pretty much everyone around here is ignoring the mask order.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at October 18, 2020 12:07 PM (3AD8C)

10 When you socialize with cats in a Manhattan apartment, you don't really worry about going out into a crowd.

Blue checkmarks >> Zoom.

Posted by: Roy at October 18, 2020 12:07 PM (Ti+Tv)

11 I have a voting patten like a shotgun blast.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 18, 2020 12:08 PM (pB6Gt)

12 Called the others, on the Book Thread below.

Posted by: gdgm+ at October 18, 2020 12:09 PM (ExnWy)

13 BTW - WTF is a K-shaped recovery?

Posted by: Roy at October 18, 2020 12:09 PM (Ti+Tv)

14 Unemployment here is back below 5%.

If anyone wants a job there are tons of them here. Walmart starts at $11 an hour.

School bus drivers start at $20 an hour.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2020 12:09 PM (JUOKG)

15 >>BTW - WTF is a K-shaped recovery?

Some go up, some go down.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2020 12:10 PM (ZLI7S)

16 The drip, drip, dribble, Chinese water torture of information about Hunter's laptop and the information therein continues.

From the EMT comes a Bannon interview w/SkyNews Australia continuing the flow from Rudy's last podcast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zhWHsfEa0U

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 12:10 PM (wHCvQ)

17 16 The drip, drip, dribble, Chinese water torture of information about Hunter's laptop and the information therein continues.

Time is running out.. People are voting.. Hurry up that drip

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 12:11 PM (Zmnko)

18 WTF is a K-shaped recovery?

The K is on its back. The upward slant is the privileged who participate in the recovery. The flat line is those who don't.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 18, 2020 12:11 PM (q2K0j)

19 Trump was hoodwinked and provided these blue state governors the back up needed to lock down the country. Now unbelievably they are trying to say he didn't do enough. You can't win so I don't know why we even ever try to concede an inch to these lunatics.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at October 18, 2020 12:11 PM (2DOZq)

20 Willard from last thread:

Biden Crime family in chronological order.
The link goes to Free Republic.
The link contains many many other links.
Worthy of a bookmark

https://tinyurl.com/y4g7be3h

Posted by: navybrat, at home at October 18, 2020 12:11 PM (w7KSn)

21 Acela-Hyde Park-Madison-Austin-SF-Portland Malibu corridor!

Well hell. Just what do we gotta do???

Posted by: Seattle CHAZ at October 18, 2020 12:12 PM (axyOa)

22 15 >>BTW - WTF is a K-shaped recovery?

Some go up, some go down.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2020 12:10 PM (ZLI7S)

That would be a less-than recovery. I guess everything starts from a vertical line then. Economists aren't very creative.

Posted by: Roy at October 18, 2020 12:12 PM (Ti+Tv)

23 Thought I'd re-post, since on the book thread we were discussing whether the Michigan governor damsel-in-distress story line is a false flag:
There's an interesting story out of Australia, where a "brave" hair
salon owner became a cause celebre because she refused to shut down, and
was publicly arrested and fined.
Then the twitter folk exposed her
as a crisis actor, and pointed out that the "salon" has only been in
business a couple of months.
They claim it was a false flag so as to frighten everyone into line.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:12 PM (AwPyG)

24 The drip, drip, dribble, Chinese water torture of information about Hunter's laptop and the information therein continues.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 12:10 PM (wHCvQ)

Joe sez "I have no response."

Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2020 12:13 PM (AwYPR)

25 It's also telling that some of the biggest lockdown continuation proponents are the giant SJW virtue-signaling corporations, particularly those that have gotten incredibly huge and wealthy by selling cheap Chinese crap. Their stocks prices are through the roof.

Small businesses are dying right and left, but that's just "the market at work", you see.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at October 18, 2020 12:13 PM (cvssK)

26 Joe sez "I have no response."
Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2020 12:13 PM (AwYPR)

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To be fair, he also called it a smear.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2020 12:14 PM (wPVhA)

27 >>>My observations of NYC suggest that it is the politically vulnerable minorities that are most impacted. And who are they? Orthodox Jews have borne the brunt of de Blasio and Cuomo's crackdowns...

I wonder if the NYC Jewish community will vote for the Democrats after all they've been through.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:14 PM (bkUtD)

28 Smear, as in, "it makes me look bad."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2020 12:14 PM (wPVhA)

29
17 16 The drip, drip, dribble, Chinese water torture of information about Hunter's laptop and the information therein continues.

Time is running out.. People are voting.. Hurry up that drip
Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 12:11 PM (Zmnko)

Leftism is a mental illness. Joe Biden could be Satan himself, and the left would still vote for him.

What I want out of the Biden laptop scandal is for every leftist to know, in no uncertain terms, that they are voting for a complete and total lying, demented shit.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 18, 2020 12:14 PM (TdMsT)

30 To be fair, he also called it a smear.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2020 12:14 PM (wPVhA)

He should know.

Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2020 12:15 PM (AwYPR)

31 >>>What I want out of the Biden laptop scandal is for every leftist to know, in no uncertain terms, that they are voting for a complete and total lying, demented shit.

I think they know it, and they couldn't care less. But they'll screech about Trump's "corruption."

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:15 PM (bkUtD)

32 >>That would be a less-than recovery. I guess everything starts from a vertical line then. Economists aren't very creative.

For a lot of people it will be less than a recovery. There are thousands of businesses that will never open again, thousands of jobs that will never come back.

It doesn't get a lot of coverage but San Francisco is dying. People are fleeing in huge numbers. The destruction from this nightmare has yet to be fully realized.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2020 12:16 PM (ZLI7S)

33 I wonder if the NYC Jewish community will vote for the Democrats after all they've been through.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:14 PM (bkUtD)

It's only the Orthodox that have suffered.
It appears the Reform are in bed with him.
Amazing.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 12:16 PM (wHCvQ)

34 >>>It's only the Orthodox that have suffered.
It appears the Reform are in bed with him.
Amazing.

No sympathy for their fellow Jews. Why am I not surprised?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:16 PM (bkUtD)

35 What I want out of the Biden laptop scandal is for every leftist to know, in no uncertain terms, that they are voting for a complete and total lying, demented shit.

NYT's has a doozy of an editorial attacking Trump in their backing of Biden.. Truly slanderous

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 12:17 PM (Zmnko)

36 >>> 23 Thought I'd re-post, since on the book thread we were discussing whether the Michigan governor damsel-in-distress story line is a false flag:
There's an interesting story out of Australia, where a "brave" hair
salon owner became a cause celebre because she refused to shut down, and
was publicly arrested and fined.
Then the twitter folk exposed her
as a crisis actor, and pointed out that the "salon" has only been in
business a couple of months.
They claim it was a false flag so as to frighten everyone into line.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:12 PM (AwPyG)

I've often wondered if many of the politically incorrect statements by various celebrities are driven by this same concept - say, Martina Navratilova first criticizing men pretending to be women so they can play in women's sports, and then issuing the proper apology after media chastisement and dropping the subject.

"Look, a teachable moment!"

(stupid commie phrase...)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 18, 2020 12:17 PM (/kh7m)

37 I've been saying for a while that the AloneTogether commercials on TV are particularly infuriating because we are not fucking alone in this together - not while everyone in the ruling class, including government workers, gets a free, all expenses paid, vacation staying at home.

This fucking virus will disappear immediately, the minute government workers start getting laid off.

And that makes me see red.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 18, 2020 12:17 PM (/a3Ep)

38 So did any Sunday morning talk shows bring up Biden's pay for play problem? I don't watch them so don't know.

I wouldn't even count on Fox News Sunday to mention it with Wallace in control.

Posted by: WisRich at October 18, 2020 12:17 PM (qKfc+)

39 27 > Wyatt Earp -- I'm guessing a fair percentage of the 'observant' Jews will break for Trump

The JIGCOs who dance before the Marx-faced Golden Calf, not so much.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 18, 2020 12:17 PM (W+kMI)

40 It doesn't get a lot of coverage but San Francisco is dying. People are fleeing in huge numbers. The destruction from this nightmare has yet to be fully realized.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2020 12:16 PM (ZLI7S)

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The mayor's biggest challenge is, "how do I blame this on Trump?"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2020 12:18 PM (wPVhA)

41 I wonder if the NYC Jewish community will vote for the Democrats after all they've been through.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:14 PM (bkUtD)

The assimilated Jews always have and always will.

But the Orthodox, both modern and Chasidic will vote for Trump. Maybe not all of them, but it is a much saner demographic.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2020 12:18 PM (xT2tT)

42 >>So did any Sunday morning talk shows bring up Biden's pay for play problem? I don't watch them so don't know.

The only one worth watching anymore is Maria Bartiromo and yes, it definitely came up.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2020 12:19 PM (ZLI7S)

43 >>So did any Sunday morning talk shows bring up Biden's pay for play problem? I don't watch them so don't know.

Ask Mike Rowe. Maybe he watch them for his show.

Posted by: Roy at October 18, 2020 12:19 PM (Ti+Tv)

44 >>> 29
.....
Leftism is a mental illness. Joe Biden could be Satan himself, and the left would still vote for him.
.....
Posted by: Ladyl at October 18, 2020 12:14 PM (TdMsT)

Well when you have such massive Daddy issues, of course you would vote against the Biggest Daddy of Them All (tm MPPPP).

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 18, 2020 12:19 PM (/kh7m)

45 No sympathy for their fellow Jews. Why am I not surprised?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:16 PM (bkUtD)

They don't consider them "their fellow Jews."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2020 12:20 PM (xT2tT)

46 38 So did any Sunday morning talk shows bring up Biden's pay for play problem? I don't watch them so don't know.

Not that I've read.. They have been running with "Trump mis-handled Covid and killed us all."

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 12:20 PM (Zmnko)

47 FWIW Bannon has an interview on Revolver that says a bunch more stuff is rolling out on Biden from multiple sources.

Posted by: blaster at October 18, 2020 12:20 PM (ZfRYq)

48 What I want out of the Biden laptop scandal is for every leftist to
know, in no uncertain terms, that they are voting for a complete and
total lying, demented shit.

The amazing thing about Leftists is that you could show a Leftist a hammer, smash the hammer onto their thumb, hold the hammer up again to let them see it and watch as the swelling and pain began in the injured thumb...

and the Leftist would immediately be willing to testify under oath that their thumb injury was not from a hammer but was a direct result of Trump's Nazi white-supremacist policies.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at October 18, 2020 12:20 PM (cvssK)

49 Alexandra Chalupa
@AlexandraChalup
Steve Bannon is a terrorist more dangerous to the United States than Osama bin Laden ever was. He belongs in a high security prison for life. Any journalist or news outlet treating him as anything but a code red threat is aiding and abetting the enemy. Everyone is on notice.
***********
I think the Chalupa is about to be dropped

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 18, 2020 12:20 PM (9o3wL)

50 I forgot about Coyote Blog, used to read him. Glad he's still going.

At first I wondered about what people meant by "K shaped" recovery, but I finally got it. It just means that the country will now have divergent outcomes - some people and some places will do very very well, some places will just keep getting worse and worse. I already believed that was happening before I heard this terminology.

A V shaped recovery just means you're on the top half of the K.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 12:20 PM (V2Yro)

51 O/T (but critical) -- BTW, Giuliani's newest video on the Biden Crime Family is up.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 18, 2020 12:21 PM (W+kMI)

52 I guess Joe is in "lock down" until the debate

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 12:22 PM (Zmnko)

53 It could be worse. It could be an X-shaped recovery, and then we'd be in uncharted waters.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2020 12:22 PM (wPVhA)

54 I always drop a chalupa after morning coffee.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 18, 2020 12:23 PM (89T5c)

55 It's also telling that some of the biggest lockdown
continuation proponents are the giant SJW virtue-signaling corporations,
particularly those that have gotten incredibly huge and wealthy by
selling cheap Chinese crap. Their stocks prices are through the roof.

Small businesses are dying right and left, but that's just "the market at work", you see.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at October 18, 2020 12:13 PM

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Retail in the US tends to change it's make up about every 20-25 years or so since about 1920.

Small independent retailers were the norm until then end of WWII when Chain Department stores started opening up in most Cities downtown areas. Sears, Penny's, Woolworth's, etc.

They stayed the kings of retail until the "Mall" movement got going in the late 60s early 70s and stores moved to indoor malls located away from the downtown districts and those large National Department store Chains started dying.

Then came the Walmart behemoth that started in mid 80s and exploded in the 90s that would alter the retail world once again. Sears and Penny's are literally on their last legs because of Walmart.

Amazon closely followed in the 00s and is still growing while Walmart has saturated the market in the US and is actually closing some under performing stores.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 18, 2020 12:23 PM (JUOKG)

56 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 18, 2020 12:24 PM (arJlL)

57 I always drop a chalupa after morning coffee.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 18, 2020 12:23 PM (89T5c)

Just a regular fella, huh?

Posted by: BignJames at October 18, 2020 12:24 PM (AwYPR)

58 >>I think the Chalupa is about to be dropped

Been waiting a long time for this scrunt to get exposed.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2020 12:24 PM (ZLI7S)

59 46 38 So did any Sunday morning talk shows bring up Biden's pay for play problem? I don't watch them so don't know.

Not that I've read.. They have been running with "Trump mis-handled Covid and killed us all."
Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 12:20 PM (Zmnko)

The "Covid will Kill Us All!" was the storyline the Left had booked for the remaining 3 weeks, before Rudy threw Hunter's laptop out there. The fact that they're still stuck on it is pretty good proof that
A) they have no response to Rudy's Revelations, and
B) they never had any Plan B after Covid.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 12:24 PM (V2Yro)

60 What the heck... here it is:

https://youtu.be/9LuSpHJNPe0

And yes, Giuliani has his *serious* DA Hat on for this video.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 18, 2020 12:24 PM (W+kMI)

61 No sympathy for their fellow Jews. Why am I not surprised?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:16 PM (bkUtD)

They don't consider them "their fellow Jews."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2020 12:20 PM (xT2tT)

They are probably mad at Hasids for causing a ruckus and not following the ~~Nuremberg~~ DeFascistio dictates ?

Posted by: runner at October 18, 2020 12:24 PM (zr5Kq)

62 It doesn't get a lot of coverage but San Francisco is dying. People are fleeing in huge numbers. The destruction from this nightmare has yet to be fully realized.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2020 12:16 PM (ZLI7S
The mayor's biggest challenge is, "how do I blame this on Trump?"
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2020 12:18 PM (wPVhA)

It's already dead. What you are witnessing are the maggots have now become flies which take flight and move to a healthy area and start the parasitical cycle all over again.

Now let's watch as Zombie Jim Fowler pokes the decomposing body once more.

Keep your fly swatters handy. BzzzzzzzzzzBzzzz.......

Posted by: Zombie Marlin Perkins at October 18, 2020 12:24 PM (Z+IKu)

63 It could be an X-shaped recovery, and then we'd be in uncharted waters.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2020 12:22 PM (wPVhA)

Arrrggghhh!!!
Points to X.
Here there be treasure!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 18, 2020 12:25 PM (axyOa)

64 It could be worse. It could be an X-shaped recovery, and then we'd be in uncharted waters.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) a

Q-shaped.

*wink

Posted by: Q at October 18, 2020 12:25 PM (zr5Kq)

65 Sears and Penny's are on their last legs because of poor merchandising, loss of quality, and ugly customer service.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 12:26 PM (wHCvQ)

66 I think there is a substantial element of redistribution of wealth going on as well.

The disposable face mask industry is booming!

Frontline restaurant employees not so much.

Not to mention COVID ais spending in the trillions. Who ultimately pays for that?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 18, 2020 12:27 PM (m45I2)

67 ais = aid

Posted by: Muldoon at October 18, 2020 12:27 PM (m45I2)

68 Sears and Penny's are on their last legs because of poor merchandising, loss of quality, and ugly customer service.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 12:26 PM (wHCvQ)

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Sears mismanaged its strategy and brand for decades. Eddie Lampert's incompetence was just the coup de grace.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 18, 2020 12:29 PM (wPVhA)

69 We will, we will, CRUSH YOU!

Posted by: Government and its minions at October 18, 2020 12:29 PM (e1mEI)

70 But the lesson in private business is you have to be nimble to survive. The owner of the longest running business in America explained its longevity by saying, "We have no traditions."
The left has been trying to choose which businesses will prevail in their slots, mainly because those businesses promise to keep the graft coming.
So we have an artificial brake on creativity and innovation

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:30 PM (AwPyG)

71 33---It's only the Orthodox that have suffered.
It appears the Reform are in bed with him.
Amazing.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 12:16 PM (wHCvQ)
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Not so amazing really.
I would guess that Jews who are serious about their religion are something of an embarrassment and annoyance to JINOs, just as Catholics like ACBarrett are a nuisance (at best) to CINOs like Pelosi and Biden.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2020 12:30 PM (M/9m0)

72 59 - Tom Servo > Frontpage put up a nice piece on the three biggest lies concerning the Commie Virus.

I regard it as no coincidence that those 3 lies constitute the iron club being brandished by Leftist Politicos to keep us 'little people' in line.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 18, 2020 12:30 PM (W+kMI)

73 Looks suspiciously like a Space Mountain shaped recovery.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 18, 2020 12:30 PM (m45I2)

74
Illegal aliens always vote Democrat. But now that Angel of Death Cuomo and loping hunk of commie piss DeBolshevik have destroyed the restaurant industry - by far the single largest employer of illegal aliens in NYC and state - that might put a dint in future migration. And increase reverse migration back below the border.

Here's hoping for at least a happy ending in that regard.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 18, 2020 12:32 PM (s2VJv)

75 Q shaped ... ha. It is really QE shaped (Quantitative Easing, Magic Money Tree)

$5 TRILLION in QE buys a lot of hope and change in the stock market. (imo Trump had to do it for reelection, and most only see the stock market going up, so they are happy ... decoupling from China is also helped with the Easy Money Tree)

Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2020 12:32 PM (Cus5s)

76 It doesn't get a lot of coverage but San Francisco is dying. People are fleeing in huge numbers. The destruction from this nightmare has yet to be fully realized.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2020 12:16 PM (ZLI7S)

BLM is attacking random people on Market St. now. You couldn't pay me to go there, and I'd be afraid to leave my house if I lived there.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 18, 2020 12:33 PM (5FCda)

77 55 It's also telling that some of the biggest lockdown
continuation proponents are the giant SJW virtue-signaling corporations, particularly those that have gotten incredibly huge and wealthy by selling cheap Chinese crap. Their stocks prices are through the roof.

Small businesses are dying right and left, but that's just "the market at work", you see.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at October 18, 2020 12:13 PM

I was driving on the South Loop under Dallas about a month ago, and on the access road next to it I saw something I had not seen before - at least 75 full sized semi trailers all lined up and waiting, so I looked to see where they were headed and could see at least 100 more all stacked up, waiting to get into the facility.

And then I noticed that almost all of them had the "Prime" logo on the side, and they were all waiting to be loaded up at the Amazon Prime distribution center.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 12:34 PM (V2Yro)

78 I was oilfield, it's not coming back anytime soon. Trying to switch from oilfield geology (And rig automation specialist) to Environmental Geology/engineering. 6 months so far and nothing.

I really hope Biden doesn't win or I think I'll wind up in retail or something despite having a Geology degree.

Posted by: Silentbrick at October 18, 2020 12:35 PM (F7lOI)

79 For those asking if the Hunter stuff came up on the Sunday shows take a listen to this clip from Bartiromo with Senator Ron Johnson.

In the tweet the person said suspended when he meant subpoenaed.

https://tinyurl.com/y47tdrny

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2020 12:35 PM (ZLI7S)

80 How about a 🖕 shaped recovery.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 12:36 PM (NWiLs)

81 It will be interesting to see the voting patterns this November!

I'm convinced that the people entrusted with analyzing voting patterns will not be forthright in their observations and conclusions.

Knowledge is power, so lying about everything is a valuable tool to cobble contestants for that power.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 12:36 PM (C+evo)

82 Sears is the lesson in business school about not being nimble when they used to be the king of catalog sales.
It's like the music industry, who made a lot of money being the gatekeepers, and tried to keep their position as gatekeeper even though the internet meant that everyone could be their own gatekeeper, and they weren't needed anymore.
The publishing industry, too.

It's very similar to how the media is desperately trying to put a lid on social media as a means to disrupt their narratives. Sorry, you're not the gatekeepers, any more.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:36 PM (AwPyG)

83 "But the lesson in private business is you have to be nimble to survive"

Sometimes being nimble means selling yourself to the Chinese.

Posted by: Westinghouse Electronics, LLC at October 18, 2020 12:36 PM (Rx3dp)

84 Yes it will be interesting; I suspect I will either be delighted or disgusted.

Posted by: MikeyD at October 18, 2020 12:36 PM (kPPnr)

85 BLM is attacking random people on Market St. now. You couldn't pay me to
go there, and I'd be afraid to leave my house if I lived there.

I find it disgusting that the FBI can find a bunch of low-life anarchists in the faux attempt to kidnap Michigan's governor but are literally hapless in figuring out who is organizing the BLM and Antifa takeover of our cities.

My belief is that it's not haplessness but rather conscious and deliberate ignorance. Meaning, THEY are the enemy.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 18, 2020 12:36 PM (/a3Ep)

86 Other than improving air quality in hospitals and care facilities; and improving medical screening networks around the world ... what will we learn from the CoronaPanic other than our elites lie to us.

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 12:37 PM (Xih1H)

87 @78
that's interesting, new name person. I know a ton of people in oil and gas who are crazy busy, right now.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:37 PM (AwPyG)

88 @86
If everyone figures out that our elites are lying to us, I think that's the most important lesson of all.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:38 PM (AwPyG)

89 My belief is that it's not haplessness but rather conscious and deliberate ignorance. Meaning, THEY are the enemy.
Posted by: LGoPs

That new FBI HQs needs to go to Johnston Atoll, not Huntsville. Maybe just the SES and 15's can be sent to Johnston?

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 12:40 PM (Xih1H)

90 Mmm, yeah. Okay. A Kay-shaped recovery looks like that one receptionist we got rid of, Kay Gunkel. So It's shaped like a bowling pin with thick glasses.

Posted by: Lumbergh at October 18, 2020 12:40 PM (Q1JQ9)

91 Meaning, THEY are the enemy.
Posted by: LGoPs at October 18, 2020 12:36 PM (/a3Ep)

That much is clear.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 18, 2020 12:40 PM (KnJdm)

92 Sears is the lesson in business school about not being nimble when they used to be the king of catalog sales.

Sears owned a catalog business and Compuserve at the beginning of the internet. They could have invented e-commerce, but didn't.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 18, 2020 12:40 PM (q2K0j)

93 @83
In a weird way, it's true. NAFTA meant that a lot of industry had to offshore to China in order to compete (which was the point, in retrospect)
And that took a lot of scrambling and nimble-ness, too

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:41 PM (AwPyG)

94 71 33---It's only the Orthodox that have suffered.
It appears the Reform are in bed with him.
Amazing.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 12:16 PM (wHCvQ)
----------------------------
Not so amazing really.
I would guess that Jews who are serious about their religion are something of an embarrassment and annoyance to JINOs, just as Catholics like ACBarrett are a nuisance (at best) to CINOs like Pelosi and Biden.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2020 12:30 PM (M/9m0)

From the Jewish friends I know personally (and have always had), there is War now between the Orthodox and the Reformed movement, just like there is War now in this country between those who support Trump, like us, and those who hate him.

The Reform movement has even abandoned Israel itself, for daring to re-elect Netenhyehu. They are now cheering for the Palestinians to win.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 12:41 PM (V2Yro)

95 They don't consider them "their fellow Jews."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2020 12:20 PM (xT2tT)

Very true. The orthodox are considered "crazies" and on the other hand many orthodox don't consider the other groups (Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist) to be Jews either. There are "denominations", so to speak, in Judaism too.

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 12:42 PM (ONvIw)

96 34- call it the Soros Effect

Posted by: vivi at October 18, 2020 12:42 PM (11H2y)

97 Damn, I'm watching video, I think from yesterday.

It is a Trump march down Rodeo Drive.

Thousands of people, it goes on and on and on.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 18, 2020 12:43 PM (5p7BC)

98 @94
It might even boil down to Good vs. Evil.
you might even say that it always does.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:43 PM (AwPyG)

99 >>>Wyatt Earp -- I'm guessing a fair percentage of the 'observant' Jews will break for Trump

I certainly hope so.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:44 PM (VWp7G)

100 It's all part of my plan, don't you see.

Posted by: Dr. Cocteau at October 18, 2020 12:45 PM (Hx2jS)

101 Ding dang blue duckbill platypus. Everything they utter like old movie props.

Every vote is an extra child sex slave for for the big cheeses.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 18, 2020 12:45 PM (pB6Gt)

102 I like the trend in SF.
Fewer people, better air, shorter lines.
Downtown is a jungle, but I hated going there even before all this crap.
Antifa BLM own all of that now.
Antifa BLM dare not go in to the neighborhoods where I live because they know people like me are there, armed to the teeth and will not put up w their shit.
There was a "boom car" (you know the ones, w the sub woofers that rattle your molars) cruising around my 'hood recently.
My neighbors pelted it w eggs.

Posted by: attilla the unreasonable at October 18, 2020 12:45 PM (w7KSn)

103 What I want out of the Biden laptop scandal is for every leftist to know, in no uncertain terms, that they are voting for a complete and total lying, demented shit.

Because the fact that he is a proxy for Xi Jinping is probably a plus in their book.

A vote for Joe Biden is a vote for Chinese global hegemony.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 12:46 PM (C+evo)

104 Sears is the lesson in business school about not being nimble when they used to be the king of catalog sales.

Sears owned a catalog business and Compuserve at the beginning of the internet. They could have invented e-commerce, but didn't.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

To be fair, Sears' markets: clothing, durables, tools weren't going to be big online sellers until the online market matured. The Prodigy market was small.

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 12:46 PM (Xih1H)

105 "...now we've got the co-conspirator Kevin Cooney, that's also started to reveal information..."

Senator Ron Johnson

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 12:47 PM (wHCvQ)

106 There was a "boom car" (you know the ones, w the sub woofers that rattle your molars) cruising around my 'hood recently.
My neighbors pelted it w eggs.

Posted by: attilla the unreasonable

Nice, no HOA?

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 12:47 PM (Xih1H)

107 78 I was oilfield, it's not coming back anytime soon. Trying to switch from oilfield geology (And rig automation specialist) to Environmental Geology/engineering. 6 months so far and nothing.

I really hope Biden doesn't win or I think I'll wind up in retail or something despite having a Geology degree.
Posted by: Silentbrick at October 18, 2020 12:35 PM (F7lOI)

I can see, in my area, Oil and Gas coming back cautiously, so far. Everyone is worried about the election; if Trump wins, things look pretty good. If Biden wins, then he's going to use new Enviro laws to kill the industry for good.

At least everyone in the Oil Business knows that this is a life or death election for their careers, their businesses, and the Country.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 12:47 PM (V2Yro)

108 It might even boil down to Good vs. Evil.
you might even say that it always does.

The GOP is pretty evil too.

Its more like this: Generally speaking, the GOP has no love for America, the Demonic Party hates America.

So do you want to be treated with neglect or contempt?

Demonic Party = Chinese Global Hegemony.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 12:48 PM (C+evo)

109
I was unemployed when this started. I had four interviews for a job, the last in mid-March. I put in applications for other jobs for which I was well suited and had expressions of interest.

With the lockdown orders, all that vanished. The positions are gone. There have been few if any suitable ones in the last few months. I have now reconciled myself to the knowledge that my professional career is over.

My thanks to all the state governors and bureaucrats for making my unwilling retirement necessary.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 18, 2020 12:48 PM (mht8P)

110 I still think attilla is really Trump. Prove me wrong.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:48 PM (AwPyG)

111 Depends where you are in SF. Friends are very unhappy with the school-from-home nonsense, and the general boredom, but otherwise not much has changed.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2020 12:48 PM (OTzUX)

112 An HOA, in San Francisco?
LOL!

Posted by: attilla the unreasonable at October 18, 2020 12:49 PM (w7KSn)

113 A vote for Joe Biden is a vote for Chinese global hegemony.
Posted by: penguin at October 18, 2020 12:46 PM (C+evo)

We're cool with that. What's the problem with you?

Posted by: Zuckerberg, Gates, and Bezos at October 18, 2020 12:49 PM (ONvIw)

114 The Reform movement has even abandoned Israel
itself, for daring to re-elect Netenhyehu. They are now cheering for
the Palestinians to win.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 12:41 PM (V2Yro)

I look at my liberal Jewish friends and have to bite back, "You might as well just drop the Zyklon B pellets yourself."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2020 12:49 PM (xT2tT)

115 @108
We live in a fallen world.Keep swinging.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:49 PM (AwPyG)

116
I look at my liberal Jewish friends and have to bite back, "You might as well just drop the Zyklon B pellets yourself."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 18, 2020 12:49 PM (xT2tT)

No! We're the "good Jews"!!!

Posted by: liberal left wing tikkun olamists at October 18, 2020 12:50 PM (ONvIw)

117 If Biden wins, then he's going to use new Enviro laws to kill the industry for good.

I'm halting a move in Texas based on this election. Texas doesn't have an income tax (yet). With the huge influx of parasites that are at peace with income taxes, and with the growing education cartel's influence and desire to plunder the state Treasury, and with the diminished severance taxes on oil production - Texas will likely end up with an income tax on top of their obscene property taxes.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 12:50 PM (C+evo)

118 >>>At least everyone in the Oil Business knows that this is a life or death election for their careers, their businesses, and the Country.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 12:47 PM (V2Yro)
----------------

Bootleg those pumpers and refineries; make the fed take them by force.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 12:50 PM (wHCvQ)

119 I can see, in my area, Oil and Gas coming back cautiously, so far.
Everyone is worried about the election; if Trump wins, things look
pretty good. If Biden wins, then he's going to use new Enviro laws to
kill the industry for good.

And knowing that Russia's energy production is its prime source of income, who in the world would we think that Putin prefers as his candidate? Biden, who will cripple America's energy production or Trump, who will champion it? A fifth grader could figure this out.

Posted by: LGoPs at October 18, 2020 12:50 PM (/a3Ep)

120 I look at my liberal Jewish friends and have to bite back, "You might as well just drop the Zyklon B pellets yourself."

I thought it was common knowledge that Jews have a penchant for talking themselves into ovens.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 12:52 PM (C+evo)

121 99 >>>Wyatt Earp -- I'm guessing a fair percentage of the 'observant' Jews will break for Trump

I certainly hope so.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:44 PM (VWp7G)

Remember, Jared Kushner is Orthodox. Ivanka has converted. The Donald has Jewish grandchildren.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 12:52 PM (V2Yro)

122 One of the things seattle has always prided itself on is our art, music and performing arts community.

All that has been wiped out by the lock downs. And our governor, Inslee is not too popular.

I've been arguing that how is it ok to go and purchase cheap shit crap from China at walfart but you can't go to the open air Pike Place Market and support local artists. Thankfully, some artists have been able to go online to places like Etsy, but many haven't. I don't k ow what happened to them.

Our music scene has always been exciting.

Now there's nothing.

Our small wineries that were reliant on their tasting rooms, done. Gone.
Brewers, same road.

But the Microsoft, amazon and Starbucks folks are doing fine!

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 18, 2020 12:52 PM (U2p+3)

123 The downtown Sears stores always had a little snack bar in the back, by the small parking lot (people would walk downtown or ride the bus). A kid could ride his bike downtown, get a hot dog and a root beer out of a big Hires keg and maybe a quarter pound of cashews for under a buck. I think the Penney's stores had a like set up.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 18, 2020 12:53 PM (I58tH)

124 Sigh.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 12:53 PM (85Gof)

125 It's pretty easy to believe this entire thing would have been approached differently if it weren't an election year/it wasn't Trump/it was a Democrat president. It's the event that has been seized upon to fuel the argument against Trump on November 3, and the article of your faith on the issue comes down to where you fall on that political question.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 18, 2020 12:53 PM (oVJmc)

126 Bootleg those pumpers and refineries; make the fed take them by force.

Posted by: Braenyard

Have Boston bay oil party. Toss in some twitter servers too.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 18, 2020 12:54 PM (pB6Gt)

127 So Trump's in Newport Beach CA today, fund raising with the former owner of Oculus who is rich enough to feed gold nuggets to his goldfish.
Is there any hope for California? Is this a good sign?

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:54 PM (AwPyG)

128 At least everyone in the Oil Business knows that this is a life or death election for their careers, their businesses, and the Country.
Posted by: Tom Servo at Oct

Same here in the golf business.

We're going to have our best year since 2008.

Bracing for next year. Gave bonuses instead of raises. Explained to employees we didn't want to lock in expenses or employees expectations.

Posted by: Golfman at October 18, 2020 12:54 PM (eJyNP)

129 Wyatt Earp -- I'm guessing a fair percentage of the 'observant' Jews will break for Trump

I certainly hope so.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:44 PM (VWp7G)

Yes the more observant jews did in the past, and will this election, vote for PDT

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 12:55 PM (85Gof)

130 128 So Trump's in Newport Beach CA today, fund raising with the former owner of Oculus who is rich enough to feed gold nuggets to his goldfish.
Is there any hope for California? Is this a good sign?

Unfortunately not.. I'm in CA.

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 12:55 PM (Zmnko)

131 >>>Remember, Jared Kushner is Orthodox. Ivanka has converted. The Donald has Jewish grandchildren.

Which is odd since Trump is literally a Nazi. /s

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:55 PM (VWp7G)

132 There's a devastating set of graphs showing job loss/recovery in the 4 biggest recessions of recent times (1990, 1999, 2008, now), comparing the situation for the top and bottom income quintiles (20%). In the previous events, not a big difference, over time. This time - bottom 1/5 job situation plunges much, much deeper than the top tier, and remains much worse.

And then there's the spectacular "disparate impact" from the (completely indefensible) school closures, which if anything is even worse than the jobs and income one.

And that one's kind of perfect, in an idiotic, pernicious way: among the most destructive and negative forces in modern society - debased, unionized public "education" - stupidly jealously selfishly arrogantly imposing and amplifying *the* worst thing to happen to children of middle- and lower-income households, in our history. While the better-off, generally, weather things much better, even though the damage there will be great too.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2020 12:55 PM (OTzUX)

133 Many retailers are now gone. Forever.

Posted by: runner at October 18, 2020 12:55 PM (zr5Kq)

134 So Trump's in Newport Beach CA today, fund raising with the former owner of Oculus who is rich enough to feed gold nuggets to his goldfish.
Is there any hope for California? Is this a good sign?

POTUS needs a friendly House and Senate.

May just be for down ticket wins.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 12:55 PM (C+evo)

135 @124
We always bought a bag of Sears' chocolate covered peanuts. Nothing better

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:55 PM (AwPyG)

136 I think the Penney's stores had a like set up.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 18, 2020 12:53 PM (I58tH)

Best hot dogs and fries I ever had was at the local Woolworth's. Mom would set us up at the counter while she shopped. They toasted the buns with butter.

Now I'm hungry.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 18, 2020 12:56 PM (x8Wzq)

137 Chalk 2020 up to another first.

First time in my life since Reagan '84 that I have ever voted for a president on a Sunday.
(Missed Reagan '80 by 16 days)

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2020 12:56 PM (I9SqL)

138 PDT's grandchildren, besides being Jewish, will also probably not swap wives and husbands when they grow up.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 12:56 PM (85Gof)

139
POTUS needs a friendly House and Senate.

Speaking of the Senate, what's this Ben Sasse thing with Trump?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 12:56 PM (Zmnko)

140 Hi pug!

I'm happy to see you enjoyed Owen Meany.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 18, 2020 12:56 PM (U2p+3)

141 I saw A few ads this weekend of NJ Dems trashing Jeff Van Drew, who's up against a "Kennedy" whose as leftist as Teddy. Hopefully Van Drew mops the floor with her.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:57 PM (VWp7G)

142 @133
I am really, really hoping that school vouchers are next on the agenda. DeVos has hinted, and so has trump.
There wouldn't be a better time than now

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 12:57 PM (AwPyG)

143 Best hot dogs and fries I ever had was at the local Woolworth's. Mom would set us up at the counter while she shopped. They toasted the buns with butter.

Now I'm hungry.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at October 18, 2020 12:56 PM (x8Wzq)

There was still one of those around here when I was a kid. Never got to eat at their lunch counter though. It since closed. Another little piece of Americana dead.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 12:57 PM (NWiLs)

144 Speaking of the Senate, what's this Ben Sasse thing with Trump?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 12:56 PM (Zmnko)

The word is romney had him in the ass in senate cloke room a few years ago. It must have took

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 12:58 PM (85Gof)

145 NY is so effing screwed

Posted by: confderatefifth at October 18, 2020 12:59 PM (4Jold)

146 >>>Speaking of the Senate, what's this Ben Sasse thing with Trump?

With very few minor exceptions, Sasse is the political personification of David French.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:59 PM (VWp7G)

147 With very few minor exceptions, Sasse is the political personification of David French.

Do you think he will vote no for ACB ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 12:59 PM (Zmnko)

148 Best hot dogs and fries I ever had was at the local Woolworth's. Mom would set us up at the counter while she shopped. They toasted the buns with butter.

Now I'm hungry.
Posted by: Pug Mahon

Best memory? Famous Barr Department Store (St. Louis) Bargin Basement. Bottom of the escalator. Hand made hot fresh pretzels like auntie Anne's but back in 1969.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2020 01:00 PM (I9SqL)

149 I was unemployed when this started. I had four interviews for a job, the last in mid-March. I put in applications for other jobs for which I was well suited and had expressions of interest.

With the lockdown orders, all that vanished. The positions are gone. There have been few if any suitable ones in the last few months. I have now reconciled myself to the knowledge that my professional career is over.

My thanks to all the state governors and bureaucrats for making my unwilling retirement necessary.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 18, 2020 12:48 PM (mht8P)

Same here, Hadrian. I was two weeks from starting a new job when Newsom put us all under house arrest. Not eligible for unemployment because I was between jobs, the only relief I've received from the government was that one check.

It was already hard to find a job at my age, and now that so many businesses have been destroyed I'm having serious doubts that I'll ever have a good job again. My only hope seems to be finding a way to flee this fascist state and resettle in a red state.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 18, 2020 01:00 PM (5FCda)

150 Ancient Woolworth's had the best toy department in town.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:00 PM (wHCvQ)

151 >>>Do you think he will vote no for ACB ?

Probably, because he needs to pretend he's a conservative once a year.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 01:00 PM (VWp7G)

152 "Our music scene has always been exciting."

I will vouch for that. I have enjoyed playing music in Seattle for decades, in various jazz venues. I worked off Broadway shows there.
I haven't been back since about 2015.
Same story here in SF.
All music venues, boarded up.
Downtown used to be merely annoying, now it is downright dangerous.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at October 18, 2020 01:00 PM (w7KSn)

153 Remember when we saw that famous pic of Sasse, all sweaty in running clothes sitting on a wall and listening intently to whatever Schumer was telling him?
Trump must be scaring him straight. It's helpful that Sessions lost, and that most of the people Trump endorsed have won. Note that Murkowski has been very subdued since he promised he'd campaign against her in two years.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:01 PM (AwPyG)

154 Oh, that's wildly optimistic and I think simply disregarding obvious reality to think that Trump being in the WH was the key driver of the abandonment of science and previous doctrine with the mass "mitigation" effort.

The technical mediocrity and insane authoritarian impulses of the CDC and "public health" authorities down to the frequently farcical county health directors is a thing - it's not an artifact of a 2020 election cycle.

And the failure to confront it, outside a handful of jurisdictions - and pretty much completely, at the federal level - is more than ominous for the future.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2020 01:01 PM (OTzUX)

155 Do you think he will vote no for ACB ?

Probably, because he needs to pretend he's a conservative once a year.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 0)

The putz has already announced he is supporting her

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:01 PM (85Gof)

156 I am really, really hoping that school vouchers are next on the agenda. DeVos has hinted, and so has trump.
There wouldn't be a better time than now

Which may explain part of why the education cartels are threatening to resume their human kennel services once the votes have been officially counted.

Since Trump is likely to have four more years, the government parasites sitting out expecting full compensation are going to be seen by many as a target for those who have been curb stomped by this Plannedemic.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 01:01 PM (C+evo)

157 My USAToday-owned local paper in NJ did not only not mention the Hunter Biden scandal, there was a SINGLE mention of Joe Biden OR Kamala Harris in it's news section.
All the stories were about Trump "playing down the virus", "escalating racial tensions"--there was a long story about blacks in PA fearing violence if Trump wins--and how Trump is fumbling the economy.

I had to double up on the amlopodine.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:02 PM (HrMC1)

158 Talked to nurse in the hospital recently. He said they are terribly understaffed. Many have gone to locations paying 5K a week.

Posted by: Javems at October 18, 2020 01:03 PM (ofIwF)

159 I'm halting a move in Texas based on this election. Texas doesn't have an income tax (yet). With the huge influx of parasites that are at peace with income taxes, and with the growing education cartel's influence and desire to plunder the state Treasury, and with the diminished severance taxes on oil production - Texas will likely end up with an income tax on top of their obscene property taxes.
Posted by: at October 18, 2020 12:50 PM (C+evo)

Just remember, the future is only bleak if Biden wins.

If Trump wins, things are gonna be great! Texas will absolutely be on the top half of that K Shaped Recovery.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 01:04 PM (V2Yro)

160 I saw A few ads this weekend of NJ Dems trashing Jeff Van Drew, who's up against a "Kennedy" whose as leftist as Teddy. Hopefully Van Drew mops the floor with her.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 12:57 PM (VWp7G)

It's some bint who's married to a Kennedy cousin.
Hard to believe that 60 years on from "Camelot" this name still has cachet.

She might be leading though

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:05 PM (HrMC1)

161 Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 12:07 PM (ONvIw)

So, your relatives acknowledge that Biden will bring corruption and we need corruption in our country? Do they listen to themselves?

Posted by: clutch at October 18, 2020 01:05 PM (9UmRs)

162
I thought it was common knowledge that Jews have a penchant for talking themselves into ovens.

They can get it wholesale!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 18, 2020 01:05 PM (63Dwl)

163 >>>She might be leading though

Likely, because NJ is lost forever.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 01:05 PM (VWp7G)

164 Of course, lots of wheels turning, but I might be mildly surprised if Trump doesn't manage at least one SoCal appearance for all the House candidates from seats only "flipped" in 2018.

And the Sasse thing is 1) huh? what is that, suddenly, all about? and 2) a pretty good sign ACB's vote numbers are quite safe.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2020 01:05 PM (OTzUX)

165 I may be overly optimistic, but I see a groundswell of working class people understanding this nonsense needs to end and their livelihood depending on it. Plus just making work a pain in the ass, imagine being like a mechanic and having to wear a mask all day?

It's when you go into high end areas that people are far more paranoid (borderline superstitious and silly) than lower class areas.

Even if you are apolitical or maybe lean towards the Democrats on some issues, I have to think it's known that one candidate wants to get back to normal quicker than the other candidate.

Posted by: Blago at October 18, 2020 01:05 PM (gkdnV)

166 Neil deGrasse Tyson warns asteroid could hit Earth day before election

LOL, only if we are lucky. I nominate CA or NYC

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:05 PM (85Gof)

167 >>>Neil deGrasse Tyson warns asteroid could hit Earth day before election

LOL, only if we are lucky. I nominate CA or NYC

Seconded!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 01:06 PM (VWp7G)

168

159 My USAToday-owned local paper in NJ did not only not mention the Hunter Biden scandal, there was a SINGLE mention of Joe Biden OR Kamala Harris in it's news section.
All the stories were about Trump "playing down the virus", "escalating racial tensions"--there was a long story about blacks in PA fearing violence if Trump wins--and how Trump is fumbling the economy.

I had to double up on the amlopodine.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:02 PM (HrMC1)

Please tell us you are not paying for this paper.

Posted by: Ladyl at October 18, 2020 01:06 PM (TdMsT)

169 >>>If Trump wins, things are gonna be great! Texas will absolutely be on the top half of that K Shaped Recovery.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 01:04 PM (V2Yro)
-----------

It's going to be a W shaped recovery.

Posted by: Heels Up Harris at October 18, 2020 01:07 PM (wHCvQ)

170 I dont quite think its 'where' you live. Some people you can drop off in the middle of Calcuta and they will be just fine.

Posted by: Menack at October 18, 2020 01:07 PM (buTO7)

171 Talked to nurse in the hospital recently. He said they are terribly understaffed. Many have gone to locations paying 5K a week.

You are referring to a program that pays CoViD trained nurses $5-10k / week to go to underserved hospitals. The way inflated pay rate has everything to do with the huge amounts of government money being spent on anything CoViD.

There are many nurses who are quite upset that they are getting paid a tiny fraction of what these contractors are receiving. During the furlough, many nurses who were sent home seriously considered the gigs. When word of this went to the supervisors of the hospitals, these nurses living on savings were told that if they did these contract gigs, that when the furlough was over they would not have a job to return to.

Serious stupidity and malice all around on this CoViD disaster. People will go to Hell over their handling of this.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 01:08 PM (C+evo)

172 ears owned a catalog business and Compuserve at the beginning of the internet. They could have invented e-commerce, but didn't.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

To be fair, Sears' markets: clothing, durables, tools weren't going to be big online sellers until the online market matured. The Prodigy market was small.

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 12:46 PM (Xih1H)

What I can't quite grasp is how Walmart hurts Sears or JC Penney. Both of those stores sold a lot of different items, many of high quality.

All Walmart sells is junk food in bulk and Chinese crap.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:08 PM (HrMC1)

173 I can see, in my area, Oil and Gas coming back cautiously, so far.
Everyone is worried about the election; if Trump wins, things look
pretty good. If Biden wins, then he's going to use new Enviro laws to
kill the industry for good.

And knowing that Russia's energy production is its prime source of income, who in the world would we think that Putin prefers as his candidate? Biden, who will cripple America's energy production or Trump, who will champion it? A fifth grader could figure this out.

Posted by: LGoPs

More importantly, the oligarchs - Czar Putin and his new dvoryanin - personally are enriched by energy revenues.

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 01:08 PM (Xih1H)

174 My USAToday-owned local paper in NJ did not only not mention the Hunter Biden scandal, there was a SINGLE mention of Joe Biden OR Kamala Harris in it's news section.
All the stories were about Trump "playing down the virus", "escalating racial tensions"--there was a long story about blacks in PA fearing violence if Trump wins--and how Trump is fumbling the economy.

I had to double up on the amlopodine.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:02 PM (HrMC1)

Please tell us you are not paying for this paper.
Posted by: Ladyl at October 18, 2020 01:06 PM (TdMsT)

YA wanna hear something sad and depressing. The Mililtary let's USA Today edit and publish the Navy, Army, and Marine Times if anyone was curious why these now rags are in the bag for the Left

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:08 PM (85Gof)

175 LOL, only if we are lucky. I nominate CA or NYC

Thanks.. I'm in CA.. Not to worry I looked it up and it's small... Sorry

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 01:08 PM (Zmnko)

176 >>>All the stories were about Trump "playing down the virus", "escalating racial tensions"--there was a long story about blacks in PA fearing violence if Trump wins--and how Trump is fumbling the economy.

Yeah, because PA whites are inciting violence, not BLM. Speaking of clowns, apparently King Putt is coming to Philly Wednesday, I believe. I think that says a lot about Biden if Obammy has to rally in Philadelphia.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 01:09 PM (VWp7G)

177 sigh

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:09 PM (wHCvQ)

178 166 Of course, lots of wheels turning, but I might be mildly surprised if Trump doesn't manage at least one SoCal appearance for all the House candidates from seats only "flipped" in 2018.

And the Sasse thing is 1) huh? what is that, suddenly, all about? and 2) a pretty good sign ACB's vote numbers are quite safe.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2020 01:05 PM (OTzUX)

Sasse has been a nevertrump shit head forever.

Posted by: buzzion at October 18, 2020 01:09 PM (vMCab)

179 ears owned a catalog business and Compuserve at the beginning of the internet. They could have invented e-commerce, but didn't.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

To be fair, Sears' markets: clothing, durables, tools weren't going to be big online sellers until the online market matured. The Prodigy market was small.

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 12:46 PM (Xih1H)

What I can't quite grasp is how Walmart hurts Sears or JC Penney. Both of those stores sold a lot of different items, many of high quality.

All Walmart sells is junk food in bulk and Chinese crap.
Posted by: JoeF.

Walmart owns the land, Sears leased space.

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 01:09 PM (Xih1H)

180 A few neighbors have Biden signs. I'm always tempted to ask:
You don't think he's too old? did you think Reagan was too old?

You don't think he's corrupt?

You don't think he's a pedophile?

But I don't say anything, because I'm hoping they are very uninformed, rather than malevolent.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:09 PM (AwPyG)

181 This time around there are virtually no signs.. I'm in a super Lib part of CA.

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 01:11 PM (Zmnko)

182 China warns it will take Americans hostage if DOJ doesnt drop charges against researchers

Isn't that an act of war

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:11 PM (85Gof)

183 @179
Walmart is releasing a ton of commercials pledging billions to make sure their products are made in USA, which will help US small businesses.
Remember that nimble thing? There it is, exhibit A

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:11 PM (AwPyG)

184 >>>This time around there are virtually no signs.. I'm in a super Lib part of CA.

I wonder if Bernie Bros will stay home again?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 01:11 PM (VWp7G)

185 is how Walmart hurts Sears or JC Penney. Both of those stores sold a lot of different items, many of high quality.

All Walmart sells is junk food in bulk and Chinese crap.
Posted by: Joe

the way the stores are set up has much to do with it. the warehouse stores are much easier to stock than a more traditional department store such as Sears.

Posted by: confderatefifth at October 18, 2020 01:11 PM (4Jold)

186 Hello. I am calling about the Asbury Park Press, and would like to know if you would be wanting a subscription please.

Posted by: Idian man named "Trevor" for this cold call at October 18, 2020 01:11 PM (Q1JQ9)

187 Showing my age as they say. I remember when downtown was hopping with dept. stores with restaurants both in the bargain basement and up where Joe says the women's dept is.Downtown here is a ghost town now, as are most cities. Downtown Newark, NJ looked really bad when I was there 4 years ago. A downtown church had a high chain link fence around it with security cameras, and strong lights along the fence.....Times do change.

Posted by: Colin at October 18, 2020 01:12 PM (gN9jm)

188 "Isn't that an act of war?"
Yes, so is releasing the plague.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at October 18, 2020 01:12 PM (w7KSn)

189 Alexandra Chalupa
@AlexandraChalup
Steve Bannon is a terrorist more dangerous to the United States than Osama bin Laden ever was. He belongs in a high security prison for life. Any journalist or news outlet treating him as anything but a code red threat is aiding and abetting the enemy. Everyone is on notice.
***********

I'm late to this party but noticed something: she changed her Twitter profile from "human rights lobbyist" to "human rights HOBBYIST." Did she lose her paying gig?

Posted by: NaughtyPine - now with extra naughtiness at October 18, 2020 01:12 PM (/+bwe)

190 Neil deGrasse Tyson warns asteroid could hit Earth day before election

LOL, only if we are lucky. I nominate CA or NYC
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:05 PM (85Gof)
********
NASA announced it would be close in Space terms, but nowhere near us. But NDT is a Retard who has just read about it

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 18, 2020 01:12 PM (9o3wL)

191 >>China warns it will take Americans hostage if DOJ doesnt drop charges against researchers

Isn't that an act of war
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Yes, but then so is releasing a virus.

Posted by: Aviator at October 18, 2020 01:12 PM (0FTCx)

192 If Trump wins, things are gonna be great! Texas will absolutely be on the top half of that K Shaped Recovery.

I am still thinking Upshur County, but acreage and broadband are mutually exclusive.

(except I did see a white elephant outside of Gilmer, but it would need at least a $100k to make it liveable to anyone other than a geek.)

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 01:12 PM (C+evo)

193 And the Sasse thing is 1) huh? what is that, suddenly, all about? and 2) a pretty good sign ACB's vote numbers are quite safe.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2020 01:05 PM (OTzUX)

Sasse fools a lot of people with his fake, fraudulent , reasonable approach.
I hate to say my mother was impressed with him during the ACB hearings.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:13 PM (HrMC1)

194 the shape of the recovery will be just like a wedgie.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 18, 2020 01:13 PM (pB6Gt)

195 "Isn't that an act of war?"
Yes, so is releasing the plague.
Posted by: navybrat, at large at October 18, 2020 01:12 PM (w7KSn)

Great point.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:13 PM (85Gof)

196 Walmart owns the land, Sears leased space.
Posted by: Jean at Octobe

that is not necessarily an advantage for wmt, they are unabl to get rid of the old stores now.

Posted by: confderatefifth at October 18, 2020 01:13 PM (4Jold)

197 >>>What I can't quite grasp is how Walmart hurts Sears or JC Penney. Both of those stores sold a lot of different items, many of high quality.

Eons ago I bought two pair of wool slacks from Sears.
They lasted ten years. I went back to buy another set and they had no wool.

Slacks, the only choice of material was viscus, or some other synthetic crap.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:13 PM (wHCvQ)

198 imo DeepState forced out Bernie and installed Biden because Biden will not follow through on those Green Promises. $100/brl oil is a killer ... in many ways. The elite need a robust economy so they can keep fleecing us, and so their stocks soar even more.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2020 01:13 PM (Cus5s)

199 "I think there is a good chance other cultures more used to relying on larger networks and multi-generational extended families are having a particularly hard time with the order to limit social contact to zoom."

Attended my niece's wedding gatherings this weekend. I'm one of eight sibs and my niece is another one of eight. Hundreds of folks at church, the reception and after parties from all over the country.

Not one mask. Not one even among the elderly.

We will not comply.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 18, 2020 01:13 PM (Rvt88)

200 @199
Just went to a wedding in California, same experience. The wheels are hopefully falling off the covid bus.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:14 PM (AwPyG)

201 But I don't say anything, because I'm hoping they are very uninformed, rather than malevolent.
Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:09 PM (AwPyG)

Easy way to find out...just wear the MAGA hat.
And have a sniper on over watch.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 18, 2020 01:15 PM (axyOa)

202 I'm aware of Sasse's idiotic behavior, generally. Don't know what triggered this latest and particularly nasty outburst from Trump, that's all.

And Twitter now shutting down Dr Atlas, the only adult on the WH task force (am I including Pence in this harsh statement? Why, yes, yes I am). For something about masks. Probably meaning any of the long-standing and exhaustively researched conventional wisdom about their lack of utility in limiting transmission of a respiratory virus.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2020 01:15 PM (OTzUX)

203 Twitter is boldly promoting Democrat side. Shit is down.

Posted by: runner at October 18, 2020 01:16 PM (zr5Kq)

204 Not one mask. Not one even among the elderly

Here in CA, they all but cancelled Thanksgiving and I'm sure Christmas also.. Get this.. You can have people from up to 3 Families.. You can only eat outside with 6 feet distance on all sides and you must use disposable plates, food containers, and silverware...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 01:16 PM (Zmnko)

205 My NYC inlaws are totally Biden "he may be corrupt but he's what the country needs". I'm glad their real estate is falling in value.
Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 12:07 PM (ONvIw)

The country needs a senile grifter who pervs on underage girls?

Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:17 PM (aKqzO)

206 >>>Twitter is boldly promoting Democrat side. Shit is down.

Every conservative should flee the platform. It's a cesspool anyway, and they will continue to block and ban you.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 01:17 PM (VWp7G)

207 Freudian slip - shut it down.

Posted by: runner at October 18, 2020 01:17 PM (zr5Kq)

208 What I can't quite grasp is how Walmart hurts Sears or JC Penney. Both of those stores sold a lot of different items, many of high quality.

All Walmart sells is junk food in bulk and Chinese crap.
Posted by: JoeF.

Walmart owns the land, Sears leased space.
Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 01:09 PM (Xih1H)

That makes sense, financially-wise

But what I'm saying is why would the consumer choose Walmart over Penney?

The stores are TOTALLY different. Okay Walmart sells food and pharms, but they sell a very thin selection of clothes--and it's all garbage.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:17 PM (HrMC1)

209 >>>Freudian slip - shut it down.

Eh, your slip was also accurate. Twitter is shit.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 01:18 PM (VWp7G)

210 I have completely eschewed masks in W CO. Was worried when I got an oil change yesterday am, no need. Not a mask in sight.

Posted by: Infidel at October 18, 2020 01:18 PM (7N5l4)

211 I tell my kids that anyone with a Biden sign had an abortion and we should pray for them.

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 01:18 PM (Xih1H)

212 @206
Have to disagree. Twitter is saving the world

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:18 PM (AwPyG)

213 166
Neil deGrasse Tyson warns asteroid could hit Earth day before election
+++++
I need to buy a new vacuum cleaner. Now I am perplexed.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 18, 2020 01:19 PM (66BnU)

214 NY Post's last twitt was Oct. 14, rumor is that twitter locks them out until they stop running Hunter laptop articles.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:19 PM (wHCvQ)

215 172---What I can't quite grasp is how Walmart hurts Sears or JC Penney. Both of those stores sold a lot of different items, many of high quality.

All Walmart sells is junk food in bulk and Chinese crap.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:08 PM (HrMC1)
-------------------------------------
Yeah, I don't quite buy that Walmart killed Sears and JCP.
Those two survived competition from K-Mart and other discount department stores very well and established themselves as stores for the solidly middle class --- fair prices overall and a range in quality from so-so to very high. And their catalog offerings were wonderful.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2020 01:19 PM (M/9m0)

216 >>>Twitter is boldly promoting Democrat side. Shit is down.

The saving grace is that the vast majority of Americans don't live in TwitterWorld and even among those that do, the bias is so obvious that they are not winning converts to the Biden side.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:19 PM (HrMC1)

217 the Amish were holding Trump rallies.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 18, 2020 01:19 PM (WyVLE)

218 Hello. How are you today? I am calling to remind you that the Asbury Park Press has greatly reduced its subscription prices and I'm sure you will find a subscription plan that will fit your budget. What can I put you down for, please?

Posted by: Indian man named "Ashton" today at October 18, 2020 01:20 PM (Q1JQ9)

219 But what I'm saying is why would the consumer choose Walmart over Penney?

The stores are TOTALLY different. Okay Walmart sells food and pharms, but they sell a very thin selection of clothes--and it's all garbage.
Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:17 PM (HrMC1)

Penney's is competing less with Walmart. More with Kohls. Are you hearing much about Kohls having the same problems as Penney's did?

Posted by: buzzion at October 18, 2020 01:20 PM (vMCab)

220 Well, you cannot leave a platform if it is still viable and is promoting garbage. You need to counter while it is still alive. If every conservative leaves twitter, it's like leaving a battlefield. SO, thy either cut it out with their one sided crap, or face the consequences.

Posted by: runner at October 18, 2020 01:20 PM (zr5Kq)

221
The country needs a senile grifter who pervs on underage girls?
Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:17 PM (aKqzO)

That's a-OK as long as he loves abortion, and cheap labor (can't let our portfolio be destroyed by higher wages)

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:20 PM (ONvIw)

222 Not one mask. Not one even among the elderly.

We will not comply.
Posted by: Tonypete at October 18, 2020 01:13 PM (Rvt8

Good for you. These mandates are illegal

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:21 PM (ONvIw)

223 @220
Exactly. there's a reason @jack is desperately trying to purge all the right-leaning twitter accounts. A lot of people are waking up, especially overseas. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:22 PM (AwPyG)

224 My HS kids do on-line classes via ZOOM, & tutoring via SKYPE. Works OK. They can see both the teacher & the tutor.

Posted by: mnw at October 18, 2020 01:22 PM (Cssks)

225 Yeah, I don't quite buy that Walmart killed Sears and JCP.
Those two survived competition from K-Mart and other discount department stores very well and established themselves as stores for the solidly middle class --- fair prices overall and a range in quality from so-so to very high. And their catalog offerings were wonderful.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2020 01:19 PM (M/9m0)

Yes.
Walmart killed downtown--the Woolworth's and Kressges and that sort of thing.

I used to marvel at the comprehensiveness of goods Sears offered when I was a kid.
I still go to Penney's for clothes.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:22 PM (HrMC1)

226
Leland Vitter just kicked the shit out of a Biden campaign Spox Xhe re the Hunter emails.

I am..... suprised .

Posted by: fixerupper at October 18, 2020 01:22 PM (nw6Hr)

227 >>>Well, you cannot leave a platform if it is still viable and is promoting garbage. You need to counter while it is still alive. If every conservative leaves twitter, it's like leaving a battlefield. SO, thy either cut it out with their one sided crap, or face the consequences.

I'd agree if there were consequences, but there aren't. There will be hearings and bold statements, but if they haven't done anything yet, they won't at all.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 01:22 PM (VWp7G)

228 I need to buy a new vacuum cleaner. Now I am perplexed.

Posted by: washrivergal

Buy it on credit. In case of the rapture. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at October 18, 2020 01:22 PM (Rvt88)

229 >>> 166 Neil deGrasse Tyson warns asteroid could hit Earth day before election

LOL, only if we are lucky. I nominate CA or NYC
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:05 PM (85Gof)

I can assure you *that* fucktard didn't calculate the orbit. He's reading off some astronomy research org's newsletter.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 18, 2020 01:23 PM (/kh7m)

230 >>> A lot of people are waking up, especially overseas. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Can we throw Jack out of a helicopter?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 18, 2020 01:23 PM (VWp7G)

231
205 My NYC inlaws are totally Biden "he may be corrupt but he's what the country needs". I'm glad their real estate is falling in value.
Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 12:07 PM (ONvIw)

My S-n-L is the same. Facts are irrelevant. Her ego is invested now. The marxists could be dragging her from her house and she'd still swear she is right.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 18, 2020 01:23 PM (axyOa)

232 Leland Vitter just kicked the shit out of a Biden campaign Spox Xhe re the Hunter emails.

I am..... suprised .
Posted by: fixerupper at October 18, 2020 01:22 PM (nw6Hr)
*********
Broken Clock is right twice a day

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 18, 2020 01:23 PM (9o3wL)

233 Yeah, I don't quite buy that Walmart killed Sears and JCP.

Those two survived competition from K-Mart and other discount
department stores very well and established themselves as stores for the
solidly middle class --- fair prices overall and a range in quality
from so-so to very high. And their catalog offerings were wonderful.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2020 01:19 PM (M/9m0)

I suspect Sears and JCPennys stopped being principally retailers who dealt with high end stuff and clothings, and moved to being credit companies that stopped caring about quality merchandise as much as credit terms.

At that Amazon and Ross and WalMart had them out competed, since it was just as easy or easier to buy middle quality stuff at WalMart, and at least locally, WalMart has better parking/

Posted by: Kindltot at October 18, 2020 01:23 PM (WyVLE)

234 Buy it on credit. In case of the rapture. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at October 18, 2020 01:22 PM (Rvt8

++++
Say, not a bad idea!

Posted by: washrivergal at October 18, 2020 01:24 PM (66BnU)

235 Some go up, some go down.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2020 12:10 PM (ZLI7S)

Spinnin' wheel, got to go round

Talkin' 'bout your troubles, it's a cryin' sin

Ride a painted pony, let the spinnin' wheel spin

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 18, 2020 01:24 PM (6bQvJ)

236 206 Wyatt Earp

Yeah, but... it's hard to "flee a platform" you've never once used. Kind of like "boycotting the NBA."

HOW?

Posted by: mnw at October 18, 2020 01:24 PM (Cssks)

237 I was just in Cali - above Fresno for the Creek fire - no masks east of Fresno. Lots of Trump signs. Same in Central FL outside of Orlando, I got yelled at by an old guy to take off the damn mask in Brevard Co.

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 01:25 PM (Xih1H)

238 202 I'm aware of Sasse's idiotic behavior, generally. Don't know what triggered this latest and particularly nasty outburst from Trump, that's all.
------------------------------------------------

GOP Sen. Sasse says Trump 'kisses dictators' butts' and mocks evangelicals

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yypyngfn

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at October 18, 2020 01:25 PM (iEx0u)

239 If twitter excisted during the Nazis, it would be called Fick dich

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 18, 2020 01:25 PM (pB6Gt)

240 Neil deGrasse Tyson warns asteroid could hit Earth day before election
+++++
I need to buy a new vacuum cleaner. Now I am perplexed.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 18, 2020 01:19 PM (66BnU)

Mr. SCIENCE! deGrasse Tyson "forgot" to mention that that "asteroid" is about 6' - 10' in diameter. A real civilization killer.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 18, 2020 01:25 PM (AiZBA)

241 Penney's is competing less with Walmart. More with Kohls. Are you hearing much about Kohls having the same problems as Penney's did?
Posted by: buzzion at October 18, 2020 01:20 PM (vMCab)

Kohl's is a good store .
Their prices are very reasonable and the quality is better than expected in most cases. The service is very good.
The parking lots of the three stores within a ten minute drive near me are always full.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:25 PM (HrMC1)

242 Just went to a wedding in California, same experience. The wheels are hopefully falling off the covid bus.
Posted by: artemis

A 73 yr old fat guy (Trump) only being sick for 4 days, SHOULD HAVE killed the Covid hysteria.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2020 01:25 PM (I9SqL)

243 Hey now, Kaiser Wilhelm was relatively a friend to the Jews compared to Mayor Wilhelm.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 18, 2020 01:26 PM (qlFIA)

244 For the Q doubters, I will say that the Q drops have been warning for a long time that the big social media accounts that follow them would be shut down. They encouraged everyone to have back channels, and told the smaller accounts that they would have to step up to fill the breach.

And that's exactly what's happened--almost as though Q knows the left's playbook.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:26 PM (AwPyG)

245 >>> 182 China warns it will take Americans hostage if DOJ doesnt drop charges against researchers

Isn't that an act of war
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:11 PM (85Gof)

Who are they going to grab, a Kristi Noem or LeBron James?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 18, 2020 01:26 PM (/kh7m)

246 Yeah, this is just an "election cycle op", nothing to worry about when Trump wins, bigly.

Nobel Laureate Professor Levitt cancels participation in a biodesign conference - because too many other speakers threatening to boycott if he was there.

A biology Nobel with utterly reasonable and largely vindicated (at an observational level) takes on C19 forced to withdraw from a conference where he would be one of the star participants.

As he himself said, "New Dark Age Cometh".

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2020 01:26 PM (OTzUX)

247 For me there is no more pandemic. Everything is open, everyone is out and about. Nobody gives a fuck about masks.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 18, 2020 01:26 PM (22mNy)

248 GOP Sen. Sasse says Trump 'kisses dictators' butts' and mocks evangelicals

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yypyngfn
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at October 18, 2020 01:25 PM (iEx0u)

That's such a bullshit story.

Has any reputable evangelist with a following ever accused Trump of mocking them?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:27 PM (HrMC1)

249 @242

Not to mention that Coach Sabin clearly had a false positive, and that many of the "positives" in football turned out to be false.
I think normal people are waking up fast.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:27 PM (AwPyG)

250 The country needs a senile grifter who pervs on underage girls?
Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:17 PM (aKqzO)

Ummmmmm....Yes!

Posted by: Democrat voters, grifters and preverts at October 18, 2020 01:28 PM (Z+IKu)

251 As he himself said, "New Dark Age Cometh".

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2020 01:26 PM (OTzUX)

The signs of this are everywhere.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:28 PM (HrMC1)

252 I can assure you *that* fucktard didn't calculate the orbit. He's reading off some astronomy research org's newsletter.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 18, 2020 01:23 PM (/kh7m)

+++++
I caught him on some show a while back. He was working on the theory of time travel. His ambition is to go back in time to meet up with his long-dead father.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 18, 2020 01:28 PM (66BnU)

253 That's a-OK as long as he loves abortion, and cheap labor (can't let our portfolio be destroyed by higher wages)
Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:20 PM (ONvIw)

I used to be 100 percent against unions. Thought they were outdated relics that only served to raise wages by artificially restricting the supply of labor. In many ways I still do.

However, in the last few years I've realized that there are a lot of companies and owners who would gladly grind their workforce into the dirt if it meant they would max out their financial GAINNNZZZZZ. The cold blooded mentality is not gone from these people, it's just hidden and suppressed by societal disapproval and labor laws. Thus they want a workaround. We have to pay reasonable wages to Americans? Fuck it, I'll import Indians. It can't go on.

Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:28 PM (aKqzO)

254 I signed up for a NY Post account and added their app.

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 01:29 PM (Xih1H)

255 China warns it will take Americans hostage if DOJ doesnt drop charges against researchers

Isn't that an act of war
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:11 PM (85Gof)

On the plus side all their bonds and treasuries will be declared defaulted. I mean good in the possibility that the USD won't go into hyperinflation.

It will be hard to get an iPhone for a while, though.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 18, 2020 01:29 PM (WyVLE)

256 250 The country needs a senile grifter who pervs on underage girls?
Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:17 PM (aKqzO)

And a good five-cent cigar.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 01:30 PM (NWiLs)

257 My S-n-L is the same. Facts are irrelevant. Her ego is invested now. The marxists could be dragging her from her house and she'd still swear she is right.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 18, 2020 01:23 PM (axyOa)

Yep, and maybe a bit more superficial. It's brand loyalty.

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:30 PM (ONvIw)

258 The OJ communities in NJ are solid for Jackass Murphy after he dropped a coupla million on a few key yeshivas. Cant say who theyre in favor of for POTUS.

Everyone votes their interests. Some hold out their votes for sale.

Posted by: BluesFish at October 18, 2020 01:31 PM (WQZ1O)

259 Not to mention that Coach Sabin clearly had a false positive, and that many of the "positives" in football turned out to be false.
I think normal people are waking up fast.
Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:27 PM (AwPyG)

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there was a study released a couple of weeks back that looked at 37 American colleges and universities. Since August there have been over 50,000 positive test cases for college students. Exactly two two hospitalizations and I think now one death, with comorbidities.

Posted by: fixerupper at October 18, 2020 01:31 PM (nw6Hr)

260 The only thing I got is that Sears and Penney stores anchored many shopping malls, so when malls began to suffer--in part because of online shopping--the writing was on the wall.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:31 PM (HrMC1)

261 @248
I think its a sign of desperation--to put out these stories where Trump is already a known commodity to these groups. (Hates" evangelicals? Hates Jews? They must be shaking their heads.)
But it resonates with the people who will already vote against him. I have a millennial relative who spouts whatever the latest talking point is. "Trump will not leave office when he's voted out." is a favorite. Which makes you wonder why they'd want that propaganda out there.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:31 PM (AwPyG)

262 On the plus side all their bonds and treasuries will be declared defaulted. I mean good in the possibility that the USD won't go into hyperinflation.

That is one way to make China pay for the damage they caused with their weaponized virus.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 01:31 PM (C+evo)

263 I wish I had more background on this topic, but it is my hypothesis
that the government's lockdown orders may well disproportionately harm
ethnic minorities.

***
Perhaps, but illegals have ignored lockdowns laws just like they've ignored all other laws...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 18, 2020 01:31 PM (qlFIA)

264 Who are they going to grab, a Kristi Noem or LeBron James?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 18, 2020 01:26 PM (/kh7m)

Americans currently living in China.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 18, 2020 01:32 PM (5FCda)

265 I caught him on some show a while back. He was working on the theory of time travel. His ambition is to go back in time to meet up with his long-dead father.
Posted by: washrivergal

Even if that were possible, what could possibly go wrong?

The depths of ignorance appear to have no bottom.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 18, 2020 01:32 PM (Rvt88)

266 Twatter just removed a Tweet from Dr. Scott Atlas saying Masks don't work

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 18, 2020 01:32 PM (9o3wL)

267 I think its a sign of desperation--to put out these stories where Trump
is already a known commodity to these groups. (Hates" evangelicals?
Hates Jews? They must be shaking their heads.)
***

If you go to places where actual anti-semites hang out, like the comments section at ZeroHedge, they HATE Trump, and call him a tool of the Jews.

Calling Trump an anti-Semite has to be the dumbest of all the insults the left and Vichey Republicans have come up with.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 18, 2020 01:33 PM (qlFIA)

268 Should I buy Au or NIB iPhones?

Posted by: klaftern at October 18, 2020 01:33 PM (RuIsu)

269 GOP Sen. Sasse says Trump 'kisses dictators' butts' and mocks evangelicals

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yypyngfn

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at October 18, 2020 01:25 PM (iEx0u)

That's such a bullshit story.

Has any reputable evangelist with a following ever accused Trump of mocking them?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:27 PM (HrMC1)

One of Billy Graham's granddaughters (Jerusha Duford) is all woke and is claiming that Trump is trying to hijack their faith for votes and encouraging Evangelicals to vote for Gropin' Joe.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 18, 2020 01:33 PM (6bQvJ)

270 Crooked Joe Biden to Go into Hiding Starting Monday Until Debate on Thursday Night in Final Weeks Before Election!

That's a mighty bigga LID

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:34 PM (85Gof)

271 We have to pay reasonable wages to Americans? Fuck it, I'll import Indians. It can't go on.
Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:28 PM (aKqzO)

Indeed. Some unions went too far (can't fire for ineptitude) but some are ok. The nurses at my former hospital were unionized, and we were better for it. Management thought they'd get smart and start importing cheap RNs, but the union said "you'll pay hem like the Americans", we have a contract. They abandoned the scheme. I can't even imagine how many non-English speakers and poorly trained people they would have put in those jobs. And yes, management could terminate for cause.

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:34 PM (ONvIw)

272 >>>However, in the last few years I've realized that there are a lot of companies and owners who would gladly grind their workforce into the dirt ...i
Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:28 PM (aKqzO---------------------------------------

At which time said employee seeks an upgrade in employment.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:35 PM (wHCvQ)

273 The economic impact of COVID will pale when the societal destruction becomes more apparent.

Posted by: creeper at October 18, 2020 01:35 PM (XxJt1)

274 Lots of illegals working the Creek Fire recovery, a few were wearing masks - probably for the ash and smoke. 6am line at the Shell station for fried chicken was wrapped around the store and mask less. The staff werent even bothering. And, thats California with lots of cops and state officials running around.

Posted by: Jean at October 18, 2020 01:35 PM (Xih1H)

275 I think its a sign of desperation--to put out these stories where Trump is already a known commodity to these groups. (Hates" evangelicals? Hates Jews? They must be shaking their heads.)

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:31 PM (AwPyG)

I don't care if Trump likes me. I don't care if he HATES me. What I care about is whether he deals with me and people like me, and my country, in a fair manner. That's all I ask from anyone. I don't care what you think, I care what you *do*. Of course this is the polar opposite of the Left, who don't care what you do at all as long as you think the right thoughts.

Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:35 PM (aKqzO)

276 And a good five-cent cigar.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 01:30 PM (NWiLs)

Hell. I'd even go for a twenty five cent cigar. If SMOD is coming, might as well live it up.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 18, 2020 01:35 PM (axyOa)

277 GOP Sen. Sasse says Trump 'kisses dictators' butts' and mocks evangelicals

Which may explain why Trump is the only president that bothers to attend Pro Life events, prayer rallies and otherwise is the greatest supporter of Evangelicals since the days of the founding fathers.

OTOH, it is the Demonic Party who attacks Christians, forces Christian entities to hire perverts, denies Christians the right to assemble and worship, pushes evolution everywhere and categorically denies the existence of the Living God and cancels those who do.

Sasse is a demon just like French.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 01:35 PM (C+evo)

278 233 ---I suspect Sears and JCPennys stopped being principally retailers who dealt with high end stuff and clothings, and moved to being credit companies that stopped caring about quality merchandise as much as credit terms.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 18, 2020 01:23 PM (WyVLE)
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That is definitely the case with Sears.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2020 01:36 PM (M/9m0)

279 @264
If there are Americans still living in China after all this, that's on them. I'd have had my family out of there a year ago--or maybe when Hong Kong was shut down.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:36 PM (AwPyG)

280 My sense is that a lot of the leftist that are saying insane things like "Biden might be corrupt, but he is what we need", are coming to grips with the sense that Trump is going to win, and are in the arguing stage (or bargaining stage?)

I saw a short clip of Cavuto and he is holding onto those poll numbers for dear life. Every action in the country is viewed through that lens.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 18, 2020 01:36 PM (5p7BC)

281 The recovery here is pretty much Karen with a strap on pegging you shaped...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at October 18, 2020 01:36 PM (NijEX)

282 I used to be 100 percent against unions. Thought they were outdated relics that only served to raise wages by artificially restricting the supply of labor. In many ways I still do.

However, in the last few years I've realized that there are a lot of companies and owners who would gladly grind their workforce into the dirt if it meant they would max out their financial GAINNNZZZZZ. The cold blooded mentality is not gone from these people, it's just hidden and suppressed by societal disapproval and labor laws. Thus they want a workaround. We have to pay reasonable wages to Americans? Fuck it, I'll import Indians. It can't go on.
Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:28 PM (aKqzO)

For some it is probably needed. The traditional unionized groups right now have outlived their usefulness and are more exploitative of their members as the companies they work for. But you know for journalists I'm in favor just so they can watch as the companies they think are down with the struggle prove they're not. And I think Bezos could do with dealing with quite a few strikes really.

Posted by: buzzion at October 18, 2020 01:36 PM (vMCab)

283
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 18, 2020 01:33 PM (6bQvJ)
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There's ONE in every family.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:37 PM (wHCvQ)

284 One of Billy Graham's granddaughters (Jerusha Duford) is all woke and is claiming that Trump is trying to hijack their faith for votes and encouraging Evangelicals to vote for Gropin' Joe.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 18, 2020 01:33 PM (6bQvJ)

I'd invite her over for some old-time snake handling, but she looks way too much like her grampa.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 01:38 PM (NWiLs)

285 At which time said employee seeks an upgrade in employment.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:35 PM (wHCvQ)

The trouble is stuff like this drives wages down across the board. Company A hires Third Worlders and pays them shit. This enables them to underbid everyone else because where is your biggest expense? Personnel. To compete and survive, everyone else joins the race to the bottom.

Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:39 PM (aKqzO)

286 Hell. I'd even go for a twenty five cent cigar. If SMOD is coming, might as well live it up.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 18, 2020 01:35 PM (axyOa)

Right? A good 25 cent cigar and a twenty-dollar whore. That's what we need right now. And blow.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 01:39 PM (NWiLs)

287 There's ONE in every family.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:37 PM (wHCvQ)

I got more than one in my family. Who do I go to, to complain?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:39 PM (85Gof)

288 Not to mention that Coach Sabin clearly had a false positive, and that many of the "positives" in football turned out to be false.

Yet based on these false positives, EVERYONE around them was forced to be in a fortnight in-home incarceration.

We are so far beyond any recognition of the Bill of Rights or Due Process.

next week they will be welding the doors shut on anyone suspected within being a furlong from anyone who may have tested positive.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 01:40 PM (C+evo)

289 BTW, I know people are saying there won't be a 3rd debate, but there will be.

It is Biden's last chance to change the course of the election. If he stays on the current track he will lose handily.

He needs to find a way to turn the narrative back to Covid, to have any chance of winning.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 18, 2020 01:40 PM (5p7BC)

290 Companies like Sears, Boeing, ATT became more intersted in stock price and dividends once they had large hedge fund euity stakes and hedge fund managers on the board. Fuck the product or customers, how do we drive up the stock price and get a good return on investment?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:40 PM (dNzKv)

291 269 GOP Sen. Sasse says Trump 'kisses dictators' butts' and mocks evangelicals

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yypyngfn

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at October 18, 2020 01:25 PM (iEx0u)

That's such a bullshit story.

Has any reputable evangelist with a following ever accused Trump of mocking them?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:27 PM (HrMC1)

One of Billy Graham's granddaughters (Jerusha Duford) is all woke and is claiming that Trump is trying to hijack their faith for votes and encouraging Evangelicals to vote for Gropin' Joe.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 18, 2020 01:33 PM (6bQvJ)

I read an article about the "mocked evangelicals" thing. He was ripping on the "Prosperity gospel" types. The "God wants you to give me money so I can have a Gulfstream" types.

Posted by: buzzion at October 18, 2020 01:40 PM (vMCab)

292 >>Right? A good 25 cent cigar and a twenty-dollar whore. That's what we need right now. And blow.
Posted by: Insomniac

Throw in a $2 dildo and I'm in!

Posted by: Hunter at October 18, 2020 01:41 PM (0FTCx)

293 @285
You are buying into the left's world-view, that everyone is fungible.
They aren't--good workers are good workers, no matter where they are from, and if you want to survive, you need good workers..

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:41 PM (AwPyG)

294 287 There's ONE in every family.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:37 PM (wHCvQ)

I got more than one in my family. Who do I go to, to complain?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:39 PM (85Gof)
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Complaint Dept., elevator to basement, take a left and follow the arrows. You can't miss it.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:42 PM (wHCvQ)

295 293 @285
You are buying into the left's world-view, that everyone is fungible.
They aren't--good workers are good workers, no matter where they are from, and if you want to survive, you need good workers..
Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:41 PM (AwPyG)

I put the "fungi" in fungible.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 01:42 PM (NWiLs)

296 Never against unions per se- they allow the labor commodity to get priced properly. It's when they're bargaining on both sides of the table that the monkey wrench gets thrown in the gears.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 18, 2020 01:42 PM (5ZCYn)

297 Joe knows that even if he wins, the senate will remain with the GOP

and they're a few dim senators who wont go along with court packing

so Joe doesn't want the stain of an unobtainable goal to be on his burnished legacy

so he's stuck

Posted by: REDACTED at October 18, 2020 01:42 PM (R3uW8)

298 I'm watching my grandson's baseball game on a live stream.

Music is blaring..

A mom on the opponent's team screamed at her kid on the field--

It's not Soul Train! Stop dancing!

Posted by: Ladyl at October 18, 2020 01:42 PM (TdMsT)

299 275---I don't care if Trump likes me. I don't care if he HATES me. What I care about is whether he deals with me and people like me, and my country, in a fair manner. That's all I ask from anyone. I don't care what you think, I care what you *do*. Of course this is the polar opposite of the Left, who don't care what you do at all as long as you think the right thoughts.
Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:35 PM (aKqzO)
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AMEN.
Preach it!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2020 01:42 PM (M/9m0)

300 If there are Americans still living in China after all this, that's on them. I'd have had my family out of there a year ago--or maybe when Hong Kong was shut down.

Selling out your own countrymen is where its at.

Something about sleeping with dogs, waking up with fleas.

I wonder how valuable round-eye's organs are to the Chinese elite?

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 01:43 PM (C+evo)

301 How about a (flip the bird) shaped recovery.

lol

The technical mediocrity and insane authoritarian impulses of the CDC
and "public health" authorities down to the frequently farcical county
health directors is a thing - it's not an artifact of a 2020 election
cycle.

And the failure to confront it, outside a handful of jurisdictions -
and pretty much completely, at the federal level - is more than ominous
for the future.

I am tired of being told, as if I don't know " show me where in the Constitution that Trump can stop the mask mandates".

Dudes, that's not the point. We were inundated for months by "experts" in epidemiology, virology, immunology, biological warfare, Chinese history and politics, economics, finance, corporate strategy, food production, logistics, manufacturing of PPE and on and on.

Not a single fucking "expert" to read through the Bill of Rights and explain how NONE of the accomplishment of this shit matters if we give up even a tiny fraction of what our Creator bestowed on us? And how many Constitutional lawyers are there in DC?

This is my sticking point with the current administration.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at October 18, 2020 01:43 PM (cvssK)

302 It is a big problem in healthcare when companies which employ doctors to staff hospitals like envision and team health are now run by equity firms who are all about the stock price and profits. The product is a physician providing your medical care, they want the cheapest employment cost with the highest billing. It is rotting healthcare from the inside.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:43 PM (dNzKv)

303
A mom on the opponent's team screamed at her kid on the field--

It's not Soul Train! Stop dancing!
Posted by: Ladyl

lol.

Posted by: Infidel at October 18, 2020 01:44 PM (7N5l4)

304 290
Companies like Sears, Boeing, ATT became more intersted in stock price
and dividends once they had large hedge fund euity stakes and hedge fund
managers on the board. Fuck the product or customers, how do we drive
up the stock price and get a good return on investment?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:40 PM (dNzKv)

Yup. The biggest difference between them is that Sears and ATT didn't kill hundreds of people.

Posted by: creeper at October 18, 2020 01:45 PM (XxJt1)

305 I read an article about the "mocked evangelicals" thing. He was ripping on the "Prosperity gospel" types. The "God wants you to give me money so I can have a Gulfstream" types.

I submit that those Prosperity Gospel people are not Christians at all, but are like the Left who wear the skin of respectable institutions as a suit.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 01:45 PM (C+evo)

306 Granted I don't get out much, but I haven't seen any "bad hombre" stuff in S.F. I did meet some old work colleagues last Friday (I had not been out socializing at all in years) on Divisadero Street near Hayes. It was unseasonably warm and aside from the face mask parade, the scenery was eye-catching. People were definitely out having fun. I seemed to be the only person who wasn't signalling their desire "to be taken care of".

Posted by: SFGoth at October 18, 2020 01:45 PM (KAi1n)

307 One of the more insidious ways the left is ruining free enterprise is that by their propping up of certain "favored" businesses, those businesses get very rich, and can afford to buy out any potential competition.
It's an old song-and-dance in the tech industry, any business that grows enough to have middle management isn't nimble anymore, so they squash all innovative competition by buying them out.

A lot of the brainiacs from Stanford Business School have one end in mind: create a start-up company that Google wants to buy for a lot of money.
And you can't really blame them, even though it hurts the big picture.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:45 PM (AwPyG)

308 I read an article about the "mocked evangelicals" thing. He was ripping on the "Prosperity gospel" types. The "God wants you to give me money so I can have a Gulfstream" types.
Posted by: buzzion at October 18, 2020 01:40 PM

My brothers and sisters!!! Just put one hand on your check book and one hand on your radio dial and send me two or three hundred dollars and you will be saved!!!
Yeah. Big difference between tithes and guilting people.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 18, 2020 01:46 PM (axyOa)

309 You are buying into the left's world-view, that everyone is fungible.
They aren't--good workers are good workers, no matter where they are from, and if you want to survive, you need good workers..
Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:41 PM (AwPyG)

I put the "fungi" in fungible.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 01:42 PM (NWiLs)

Plenty of "good workers" are also cheap and foreign. Sorry not buying that we should have more expensive Americans train their cheaper foreign replacements. That's bullshit.

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:47 PM (ONvIw)

310 This is my sticking point with the current administration.

Well that, and the fact there is no such thing as "too much spending" and there is no crime worth prosecuting.

Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 01:47 PM (C+evo)

311 You are buying into the left's world-view, that everyone is fungible.
They aren't--good workers are good workers, no matter where they are from, and if you want to survive, you need good workers..
Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:41 PM (AwPyG)

I'm not buying their wordview. Good workers are good workers, but that isn't what's under discussion. There are a lot of good workers *here*. There are good workers in India and Mexico, and if there's nothing stopping them building their own industries and companies, there, and replicating the success of the US-- except, you know, rampant corruption, ethnic cronyism, religious hatred, etcetera.

Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:47 PM (aKqzO)

312 I wonder how different the pandemic would have been if HRC was president. We probably would have stopped talking about it by March, or the deaths would be the fault of republican governors and legislators.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:48 PM (dNzKv)

313 BTW, I know people are saying there won't be a 3rd debate, but there will be.

It is Biden's last chance to change the course of the election. If he stays on the current track he will lose handily.

He needs to find a way to turn the narrative back to Covid, to have any chance of winning.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 18, 2020 01:40 PM (5p7BC)

If there is a 3rd debate, how will the mod be able to stop Trump from bringing up the Biden Crime Family's treasonous activities?

A kill switch on Trump's mic is a non-starter, as we've already seen. Trump would just reject the debate entirely.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 18, 2020 01:48 PM (5FCda)

314 Cat Ass Trophy, if Hillary had won there would be no COVID.

Posted by: creeper at October 18, 2020 01:49 PM (XxJt1)

315 He needs to find a way to turn the narrative back to Covid, to have any chance of winning.

Lucky for him it's one of the topics picked by the totally not biased moderator

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 01:49 PM (Zmnko)

316 The product is a physician providing your medical care, they want the cheapest employment cost with the highest billing. It is rotting healthcare from the inside.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:43 PM (dNzKv)

Exactly, no matter where they're from and how bad they are. Most of the docs at my former hospital are Pakistani. Questionable language skills, no tolerance for patient families, pretty authoritarian. But they are willing to use cheaper medications and get patients out ASAP

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:50 PM (ONvIw)

317 A kill switch on Trump's mic is a non-starter, as we've already seen. Trump would just reject the debate entirely.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl

I could see the Donald walking over to Biden's mic and continuing. I would laugh my ass off.

Posted by: Infidel at October 18, 2020 01:50 PM (7N5l4)

318 https://bit.ly/347ztcf
*********
Oh Boy: Hunter Biden's Computer Camera Roll Turned Over to Bannon and Giuliani Contains 25,000 Images With Sexually Explicit Selfies and Porn

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 18, 2020 01:50 PM (9o3wL)

319 Posted by: buzzion at October 18, 2020 01:40 PM

Fuck Sasse. If NE doesn't primary that asshole i have no use for them.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:50 PM (dNzKv)

320 He needs to find a way to turn the narrative back to Covid, to have any chance of winning.

Are you speaking of Trump?

Posted by: grammie winger at October 18, 2020 01:50 PM (gm3d+)

321
there was a study released a couple of weeks back that looked at 37 American colleges and universities. Since August there have been over 50,000 positive test cases for college students. Exactly two two hospitalizations and I think now one death, with comorbidities.
Posted by: fixerupper at October 18, 2020 01:31 PM

Do you have a link to this study?

I found what I think is the right one at NYT behind a paywall. Does anyone know the site that gives a quick recap of a new article w/o having to go the primary source?

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at October 18, 2020 01:51 PM (3GzTP)

322 Oh Boy: Hunter Biden's Computer Camera Roll Turned Over to Bannon and Giuliani Contains 25,000 Images With Sexually Explicit Selfies and Porn

Who cares about that? I want the emails with the connections to dear old dad.. The other stuff means nothing

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 01:51 PM (Zmnko)

323 @312
I have to disagree. The plandemic was planned well-before the last presidential election, with the idea that HRC would socialize the country "for the good of everyone."
Notice how long the left has been trying to condition us to believe freedom is selfish. This was going to be for all the marbles.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:51 PM (AwPyG)

324 Cat Ass Trophy, if Hillary had won there would be no COVID.
Posted by: creeper

It would just be a 2017 bad flu.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2020 01:51 PM (I9SqL)

325 Oh Boy: Hunter Biden's Computer Camera Roll Turned Over to Bannon and Giuliani Contains 25,000 Images With Sexually Explicit Selfies and Porn
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 18, 2020 01:50 PM (9o3wL)

Not illegal unless it's kiddie stuff or otherwise in violation. Also-- Is anyone surprised?

Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (aKqzO)

326 I hope to God that Trump triumphs bigly. To lose to Biden would be the worst outcome imaginable. And even if you discount the Hunter corruption extravaganza, Biden himself is pitiful. He is sounding more lunatic, more frenzied in his pleas for votes - promising anything and everything under the sun, without outlining any plan or procedure, only vowing and swearing that he'll make it all good. He come across with zero sincerity, just desperation.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (66BnU)

327
It would just be a 2017 bad flu.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2020 01:51 PM (I9SqL)

She'd have been kissing chinese ass and there woukd have been no wuflu

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (ONvIw)

328 @322
Who's to say the porn doesn't include the bribe takers, and dear old dad?

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (AwPyG)

329 Kohl's is a good store .

Their prices are very reasonable and the quality is better than expected in most cases. The service is very good.

The parking lots of the three stores within a ten minute drive near me are always full.

In my area, the Kohls is vastly inferior to JC Penny. Kohls here is still selling last winters merchandise for a little more than half off, and there are empty shelves. It might be a good store for men, but as a female, I find it lacking, unless you want overpriced skinny jeans and long tops that make your @ss look enormous. JC Penny has a larger section of normal clothes for women and better prices.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (ZCiJZ)

330 There may be a picture of him having sex with himself in a closet.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (wHCvQ)

331 289
....He needs to find a way to turn the narrative back to Covid, to have any chance of winning....
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 18, 2020 01:40 PM (5p7BC)
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He doesn't need to find a way.
The DNC operative "moderating the debate" will keep Covid the focus. That and Trump's raaaaacism.

And I think we are about to witness the first POTUS election in decades that will take place with scarcely a mention of foreign policy.
For obvious reasons.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (M/9m0)

332 Who's to say the porn doesn't include the bribe takers, and dear old dad

Of course that would be a different story.. I was just saying we already knew Hunter was a druggie with a penchant for strippers/hookers...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 01:53 PM (Zmnko)

333 Notice how long the left has been trying to condition us to believe freedom is selfish. This was going to be for all the marbles.
Posted by: artemis

I'm the most selfish person you'll ever meet.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 18, 2020 01:53 PM (I9SqL)

334 It will be interesting to see the voting patterns this November!

Haven't had a chance to read the comments but I have to believe that non-union/government middle and lower-middle class folks are going to give serious consideration to PDT's reelection. Unfortunately, a lot of service industry workers are SEIU. That blows.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 18, 2020 01:53 PM (EgshT)

335 YA wanna hear something sad and depressing. The Mililtary let's USA Today edit and publish the Navy, Army, and Marine Times if anyone was curious why these now rags are in the bag for the Left
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 18, 2020 01:08 PM (85Gof)
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They've been trending leftward a lo-o-o-ong time, as well as being sensationalistic. We used to get a good laugh at typical Army Times covers like KNIFE IN THE HEAD! with X-ray of skull mit knife.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Counter-Revolutionary She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 18, 2020 01:53 PM (Dc2NZ)

336

In my area, the Kohls is vastly inferior to JC Penny. Kohls here is still selling last winters merchandise for a little more than half off, and there are empty shelves. It might be a good store for men, but as a female, I find it lacking, unless you want overpriced skinny jeans and long tops that make your @ss look enormous. JC Penny has a larger section of normal clothes for women and better prices.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (ZCiJZ)

You need to shop at my Kohl's!

Posted by: Ladyl at October 18, 2020 01:54 PM (TdMsT)

337 Most of the docs at my former hospital are Pakistani.

But at least they had to pass our board and licensing exams. These companies are replacing doctors with nurse practitioners trained to questionable standards at diploma mill online schools. They get less than 1/10 of the training of a doctor, no rigorous licensing or postgraduate training, and are pumped up full of hubris that they know more than anyone. Patients are dying because of it, but you are a racist, misogynist, bigot if you complain.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:54 PM (dNzKv)

338 Here's the article that caused Twitter to shut down Atlas:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y359mfsm

It's a good one, which proceeds from a basics-on-up perspective, about the mechanics of masks and aerosols, etc. It's not a medical study or meta-study - though it provides a decent technical overview of why *those* studies, going back decades, uniformly fail to find much or any benefit in masks for a situation like today.

And, FFS, when one clicks on the link where it is posted within any number of Twitter accounts (fellow dangerous scientists whoa are reposting it), one gets an "Unsafe" warning.

I'm wordless. The whole "safe" idiocy has of course been beyond description for years. But this is beyond orwellian. New words are needed.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 18, 2020 01:54 PM (OTzUX)

339 >>>Who cares about that? I want the emails with the connections to dear old dad.. The other stuff means nothing
Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 01:51 PM (Zmnko)
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It's pucker factor enhancement.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:54 PM (wHCvQ)

340 253 > Vanya

Actually, American labor could do well copying the German model of unions... a typical German 'union' is the rank-n-file employees as an organized group within a particular company, which then interacts with the company's management.

In Germany, there are NO 'national unions' per say, it's all at the local / company level. It's a matter of law, and compels management to work with their employees, rather than treating them like disposable droogs.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at October 18, 2020 01:54 PM (W+kMI)

341 https://bit.ly/347ztcf
*********
Oh Boy: Hunter Biden's Computer Camera Roll Turned Over to Bannon and Giuliani Contains 25,000 Images With Sexually Explicit Selfies and Porn
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 18, 2020 01:50 PM (9o3wL)

I think the focus should be on Hunter's graft and grift and how SlowJoe is very connected to it, and unless it's child porn, talking about salacious sex and selfies gives the Left an excuse to call the scandal " ONLY about sex."

Am I wrong??

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:54 PM (HrMC1)

342 China probably threw some underage girls at Hunter while he was on meth ... same tactic as we assume Epstein did (for FBI/Mossad/whomever).

So our FBI would own Slo' Joe and the boy with the kompromat, but so would China, and probably other countries (Ukraine, Russia)

Posted by: illiniwek at October 18, 2020 01:55 PM (Cus5s)

343 Levin is having Rudy Giuliani for the full hour tonight.

Posted by: Infidel at October 18, 2020 01:55 PM (7N5l4)

344 At this point I'd give better odds on Trump winning New York than I would Biden winning Ohio.

Posted by: Shenanigans at October 18, 2020 01:55 PM (ojwvu)

345 She'd have been kissing chinese ass and there woukd have been no wuflu

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (ONvIw)

This guy gets it.

Posted by: creeper at October 18, 2020 01:55 PM (XxJt1)

346 But at least they had to pass our board and licensing exams. These companies are replacing doctors with nurse practitioners trained to questionable standards at diploma mill online schools. They get less than 1/10 of the training of a doctor, no rigorous licensing or postgraduate training, and are pumped up full of hubris that they know more than anyone. Patients are dying because of it, but you are a racist, misogynist, bigot if you complain.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:54 PM (dNzKv)

I'm not sure I trust those "passing scores". But I agree "nurse practitioners" in the place of physicians, as "attendings", is just plain stupid.

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:55 PM (ONvIw)

347 Who cares about that? I want the emails with the connections to dear old dad.. The other stuff means nothing
Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 01:51 PM (Zmnko)
**********
Yeah ya know nobody could blackmail him or anything, GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 18, 2020 01:55 PM (9o3wL)

348 Who cares about that? I want the emails with the connections to dear old dad.. The other stuff means nothing
Posted by: It's me donna at October 18, 2020 01:51 PM (Zmnko)

We think alike

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:56 PM (HrMC1)

349 @321
I'd do a search for the school stats--the chart has been all over twitter.
It's interesting; if the positive tests are true, then the mortality rate is ridiculously low for this flu--lower than just about any flu in history
If the positive tests are ginned-up and fake, that's a bad thing, too. Either way, it's not good news for the left.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:56 PM (AwPyG)

350 341 https://bit.ly/347ztcf
*********
Oh Boy: Hunter Biden's Computer Camera Roll Turned Over to Bannon and Giuliani Contains 25,000 Images With Sexually Explicit Selfies and Porn
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 18, 2020 01:50 PM (9o3wL)

I think the focus should be on Hunter's graft and grift and how SlowJoe is very connected to it, and unless it's child porn, talking about salacious sex and selfies gives the Left an excuse to call the scandal " ONLY about sex."

Am I wrong??
Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 01:54 PM (HrMC1)

Unless its of him banging his stepmom.

Posted by: buzzion at October 18, 2020 01:56 PM (vMCab)

351 Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:41 PM (AwPyG)

I put the "fungi" in fungible.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 01:42 PM (NWiLs)

Plenty of "good workers" are also cheap and foreign. Sorry not buying that we should have more expensive Americans train their cheaper foreign replacements. That's bullshit.
Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:47 PM (ONvIw)

Well I certainly didn't say that. Just that I'm a mushroom - they keep me in the dark and feed me bullshit.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 01:57 PM (NWiLs)

352 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:54 PM (dNzKv)

I always love the DNPs insisting on being called "doctor". Maybe this is OK in a university, but in a hospital patients expect "doctor" to be an MD or a DO.

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:57 PM (ONvIw)

353 Unless its of him banging his stepmom.
Posted by: buzzion at Octobe

with his dad

Posted by: confderatefifth at October 18, 2020 01:58 PM (4Jold)

354 310 This is my sticking point with the current administration.

Well that, and the fact there is no such thing as "too much spending" and there is no crime worth prosecuting.
Posted by: 🐧 at October 18, 2020 01:47 PM (C+evo)

There are very definitely crimes be___ prosecuted. It's just us conservatives that are getting the prosecution, and not the liberals ruining the country.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at October 18, 2020 01:58 PM (VcFUs)

355 The rapist said that he sat down with the boilermaker union and discussed his fracking plan. That they liked it so much, they endorsed him for pres. National Boilermakers say "No we didn't endorse the rapist". The local PA boilermakers endorsed Trump.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:58 PM (dNzKv)

356 JC Penny has a larger section of normal clothes for women and better prices.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (ZCiJZ)

You need to shop at my Kohl's!
Posted by: Ladyl at October 18, 2020 01:54 PM (TdMsT)
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Same stores in different areas (different managers) are demonstrably different. Thanks for reminding me.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:58 PM (wHCvQ)

357 ell I certainly didn't say that. Just that I'm a mushroom - they keep me in the dark and feed me bullshit.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 01:57 PM (NWiLs)

I know you didn;t say that Insom, but plenty of people make the argument that foreign cheap workers are "needed" or their companies will fail

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:59 PM (ONvIw)

358 Yeah having a walking time bomb national security risk near Slo is not an issue. Hello, McFly?

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at October 18, 2020 01:59 PM (xceTB)

359 @331
Have faith that no one knows how to derail a "narrative" like DJT

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:59 PM (AwPyG)

360 The rapist said that he sat down with the boilermaker union and discussed his fracking plan. That they liked it so much, they endorsed him for pres. National Boilermakers say "No we didn't endorse the rapist". The local PA boilermakers endorsed Trump.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:58 PM (dNzKv)

WTF to boilermakers have to do with fracking? Unless it's making pressure vessels for equipment, which is peripheral at best. That's like saying the Strippers Union endorsed my plan to have the US Navy grant more shore leave.

Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (aKqzO)

361 Haven't seen a JCP in years.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (oVJmc)

362 355
The rapist said that he sat down with the boilermaker union and
discussed his fracking plan. That they liked it so much, they endorsed
him for pres. National Boilermakers say "No we didn't endorse the
rapist". The local PA boilermakers endorsed Trump.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:58 PM (dNzKv)

++++
If Trump had made an outrageous lie such as this we would never hear the end of it.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (66BnU)

363 @349 - thanks, I'll check!

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (3GzTP)

364 Re: nurse practitioners -- in California, ONLY an M.D. is covered for physician-patient confidentiality. Anything you tell to any medical professional, who is not an M.D., even if they are going to relate it to the M.D. you are about to see, not covered. I had a case some years ago where statements made to an NP (nurse practitioner) were not covered.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (KAi1n)

365 357 ell I certainly didn't say that. Just that I'm a mushroom - they keep me in the dark and feed me bullshit.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 01:57 PM (NWiLs)

I know you didn;t say that Insom, but plenty of people make the argument that foreign cheap workers are "needed" or their companies will fail
Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:59 PM (ONvIw)

Yeah but chemjeff doesn't post here anymore and Nip Sip seems to have vanished under Thom Tillis' desk.

Posted by: buzzion at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (vMCab)

366 311 ---..... rampant corruption, ethnic cronyism, religious hatred, etcetera.
Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 01:47 PM (aKqzO)
----------------------------------------
Hey, now.
The US is working very hard to catch up on that stuff!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (M/9m0)

367 Libs are in an alternate universe. Heidi got an email from a Lib that used the "Karen's " meme to describe people who Won't wear masks. The hell. Really?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (Gd3Hn)

368 I always love the DNPs insisting on being called "doctor".

Doctor Karen, DNP, MSN, BSN, AAS, RN, CCRN, ALS, BLS, PALS, HGTV, HS Diploma, 8th Grade Honors.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (dNzKv)

369 Any of the Bidens play a banjo?

Posted by: klaftern at October 18, 2020 02:01 PM (RuIsu)

370 I know you didn;t say that Insom, but plenty of people make the argument that foreign cheap workers are "needed" or their companies will fail
Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 01:59 PM (ONvIw)

Oh, I know. And they'll blatantly lie about their need for H1B workers, as evidenced by the current American worker being required to train his/her H1B replacement for a currently existing job currently filled by an American, the only difference being they can pay the H1B a fraction of what the American will work for.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 02:01 PM (NWiLs)

371 hope to God that Trump triumphs bigly. To lose to Biden would be the worst outcome imaginable. And even if you discount the Hunter corruption extravaganza, Biden himself is pitiful. He is sounding more lunatic, more frenzied in his pleas for votes - promising anything and everything under the sun, without outlining any plan or procedure, only vowing and swearing that he'll make it all good. He come across with zero sincerity, just desperation.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (66BnU)

Virtually no one likes Kamala so there are going to be plenty of Biden voters with a blind spot, not realizing that it's not Joe who will be presidenting, it's HER.

People need to wake up to this fact.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 02:02 PM (HrMC1)

372 Speaking of mushrooms, my neighbor came over a while ago to get me so he could show me a huge lion's mane mushroom he found. We will eat well tonight.

And if it will just get off its duff and rain we could eat well for the next week.

It felt SO good to get out and tramp around. If I came home covered with ticks it was worth it.

Posted by: creeper at October 18, 2020 02:02 PM (XxJt1)

373 If the positive tests are ginned-up and fake, that's a bad thing, too. Either way, it's not good news for the left.
Posted by: artemis

It's training. We have a kollige kid that comes in and does filing, etc. Wears a mask constantly.

Posted by: Infidel at October 18, 2020 02:02 PM (7N5l4)

374
Oh, I know. And they'll blatantly lie about their need for H1B workers, as evidenced by the current American worker being required to train his/her H1B replacement for a currently existing job currently filled by an American, the only difference being they can pay the H1B a fraction of what the American will work for.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 02:01 PM (NWiLs)

Exactly. My former employer was looking to cut nursing wages by 60% and replace American RNs with foreigners. Even planned on using an old building as a dormitory.

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 02:03 PM (ONvIw)

375 And John McCain can go take a break from Satan's barbed cock and go fuck himself with his "Americans won't pick lettuce for $50 an hour" bullshit.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

376 Libs are in an alternate universe. Heidi got an email from a Lib that
used the "Karen's " meme to describe people who Won't wear masks. The
hell. Really?

This reminds me of when I told someone during the Obama administration that I don't recycle.

The person I was talking to gasped and was SHOCKED that I hated the planets and sea-turtles and whatever.

I explained that I would not be pawing through my trash like a goddamned raccoon and that it all goes to the same landfill anyway.

Virtue-signaling and posing is not necessarily a new development.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at October 18, 2020 02:03 PM (cvssK)

377 375 And John McCain can go take a break from Satan's barbed cock and go fuck himself with his "Americans won't pick lettuce for $50 an hour" bullshit.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

Most of the Nursing assistants would be thrilled to do that, in fact they'd take 20

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 02:04 PM (ONvIw)

378 Re: nurse practitioners -- in California, ONLY an M.D. is covered for physician-patient confidentiality.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (KAi1n)

I'm not sure what you are talking about. HIPAA applies to everyone. If you go the office and discuss your herpes flare, the nurse can't go on FB and tell everyone how bad SF Goths herpes is this time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 02:05 PM (dNzKv)

379 I'd do a search for the school stats--the chart has been all over twitter.
It's interesting; if the positive tests are true, then the mortality rate is ridiculously low for this flu--lower than just about any flu in history
If the positive tests are ginned-up and fake, that's a bad thing, too. Either way, it's not good news for the left.
Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 01:56 PM (AwPyG)

Which is precisely why such stories are suppressed--under the guise of "public safety", of course.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 02:05 PM (HrMC1)

380 @375
I've mentioned this before, but one of the reasons people think that Q is Naval Intelligence is because whenever they talk abouy the people involved in the coup attempt, they always reference John McCain as "no name." Everyone else involved is named outright, except for him--they refuse to speak his name.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 02:05 PM (AwPyG)

381 >>> 376
.....
The person I was talking to gasped and was SHOCKED that I hated the planets and sea-turtles and whatever.

I explained that I would not be pawing through my trash like a goddamned raccoon and that it all goes to the same landfill anyway.
.....
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at October 18, 2020 02:03 PM (cvssK)

A lot of trash *and* recycling from the US ends up in CHYna to be incinerated. Good thing buying carbon credits from algore fixes that!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 18, 2020 02:06 PM (/kh7m)

382 Exactly. My former employer was looking to cut nursing wages by 60% and replace American RNs with foreigners. Even planned on using an old building as a dormitory.
Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 02:03 PM (ONvIw)

There are shipyards and docks in south Louisiana where the oxygen, acetylene and water hookups at the docks are only labeled in Spanish. See also: The Chinese who work at Chinese places-- Does anyone wonder where the fuck they come from? In places with no Asian population? They import them on temp visas, house them stacked like fucking cordwood and pay them next to nothing. And the airports are full of signs about human trafficking, but yes, let's encourage this kind of business model.

Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 02:06 PM (aKqzO)

383 Grampa, Daddy is sobbing and says he really misses his computer.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at October 18, 2020 02:06 PM (EgshT)

384 NOOD First-World Problems

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 18, 2020 02:06 PM (5FCda)

385 the nurse can't go on FB and tell everyone how bad SF Goths herpes is this time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 02:05 PM (dNzKv)

Goths got herpes!?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 18, 2020 02:07 PM (Gd3Hn)

386 Is it typical for a JAG serving in Iraq to get a Bronze Star without some actual gallantry? I'm talking Beau Biden, who was being groomed as the Michael in the Biden crime family.

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 18, 2020 02:07 PM (9TdxA)

387 And John McCain can go take a break from Satan's barbed cock and go fuck himself with his "Americans won't pick lettuce for $50 an hour" bullshit.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 18, 2020 02:03 PM (NWiLs)

I'd gladly pick lettuce for $50 bucks an hour. So would many other Americans.

Megan McCain should have done it for a few hours a week for exercise.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 02:08 PM (HrMC1)

388 367
Libs are in an alternate universe. Heidi got an email from a Lib that
used the "Karen's " meme to describe people who Won't wear masks. The
hell. Really?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (Gd3Hn)

++++I got into a disagreement with my DiL just last week over this. She was insisting that Karens were the maskless harpies. She is on Facebook, so I am wondering if this some upside-down interference gambit. Confuse everyone.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 18, 2020 02:08 PM (66BnU)

389 Posted by: Vanya at October 18, 2020 02:06 PM (aKqzO)

This business model is why big tech and the CoC want to get rid of Trump.

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 02:08 PM (ONvIw)

390 @386
It must have killed them when Beau died, and they all turned to consider Hunter, who was probably passed out on the sofa at the time. Notice that Hunter was then sent--rather late in life--to sign up for the Navy., so as to be able to cite a military career.

Posted by: artemis at October 18, 2020 02:09 PM (AwPyG)

391 Presdent obama shoulds do something about the lies Trump is spreading abouts Joe Biten.....

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at October 18, 2020 02:10 PM (nOJDr)

392 I'm not sure what you are talking about. HIPAA applies to everyone. If you go the office and discuss your herpes flare, the nurse can't go on FB and tell everyone how bad SF Goths herpes is this time.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 02:05 PM (dNzKv)

It sure does, even the unlicensed people can't say "So and so is a patient at the facility I wash floors at"

Posted by: CN at October 18, 2020 02:10 PM (ONvIw)

393 Libs are in an alternate universe. Heidi got an email from a Lib that
used the "Karen's " meme to describe people who Won't wear masks. The
hell. Really?

Yup, they are actively trying to turn the "Karen" meme on it's head and make it mean the opposite.

I saw an example of it myself, but I'm about to be willowed.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 02:10 PM (HrMC1)

394 Never against unions per se- they allow the labor
commodity to get priced properly. It's when they're bargaining on both
sides of the table that the monkey wrench gets thrown in the gears.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 18, 2020 01:42 PM (5ZCYn)

Unions are a form of cartelization of labor, equivalent to the railroads conspiring with each other to fix freight prices.

It is an attempt to keep access low, prices high, and quality unimportant.

It only works when the government is powerful enough to regulate it: see NLRB and FLSA

Posted by: Kindltot at October 18, 2020 02:11 PM (WyVLE)

395 Libs are in an alternate universe. Heidi got an email from a Lib that
used the "Karen's " meme to describe people who Won't wear masks. The
hell. Really?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (Gd3Hn)

++++I got into a disagreement with my DiL just last week over this. She was insisting that Karens were the maskless harpies. She is on Facebook, so I am wondering if this some upside-down interference gambit. Confuse everyone.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 18, 2020 02:08 PM (66BnU)

Yes

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 02:11 PM (HrMC1)

396 I have an old school friend, retired state dept, who grew up blue collar Dem in NYC and worked her ass off to get into state.

She and her husband are retired on their Maine acreage in their historic cottage, that they have left ONCE since March.

She is mega lockdown face burka panic porn diva, who honestly believes, and has posted (also once) that it is extremely hard to be so good on behalf of so many stupid people who just don't take the sacrifice of people like her seriously, and how wearing it is to be locked up (in her historic home, on her acreage, with her pension and benefits the likes of which haven't been seen in the private sector for going-on two generations, ordering whatever she wants off of Amazon, and whining about missing going to Europe) CARING for these stupid people, who aren't even grateful for her sacrifice, by sharing mask memes.

I told her it sounded like something Colonel Jessup would write if he did women's magazine articles on unfair imposition of "emotional labor".

They recently took one week on Cape Cod to "get away from it all", and it kind of blew my mind that they were in a rented location previously occupied by whoever, cleaned by whoever, and so on, after driving and using public bathrooms used by whoever else, but safely fully masked there in off season splendor.

She posted photo after photo of completely empty attractions, with captions about how they couldn't visit the gift shop because there were PEOPLE in them, and beautiful expensive gourmet meals with small batch craft beers and ciders at outdoor venues.

Many comments on how they just couldn't go some places because even one or two people was just TOO SCARY, and I finally asked her how she thought it was sustainable for an entire tourist-based economy to be completely empty for her benefit, yet provide three gourmet meals a day (grown, gathered, prepped, served by...PEOPLE...all of whom come in contact with other...PEOPLE)?

She said it was sad.

Some people do not live in reality, haven't for some time, do not wish to, and believe it a virtue to vote to perpetuate it.

Posted by: barbarausa at October 18, 2020 02:14 PM (W7IZQ)

397 For a lot of people it will be less than a recovery. There are thousands of businesses that will never open again, thousands of jobs that will never come back.

It doesn't get a lot of coverage but San Francisco is dying. People are fleeing in huge numbers. The destruction from this nightmare has yet to be fully realized.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 18, 2020 12:16 PM (ZLI7S)

I read a tweet somewhere (forget which website) that was someone's theory that big tech (google, facebook, etc) was using Wuhan to crush the real estate (mentioned NYC) so they could (and ARE) swoop in and buying real estate at a steal. Wouldn't be surprised if the same thing is being done in SF.

Posted by: DeplorablyBonnieBlue at October 18, 2020 02:15 PM (BNMel)

398 Oh Boy: Hunter Biden's Computer Camera Roll Turned Over to Bannon and Giuliani Contains 25,000 Images With Sexually Explicit Selfies and Porn
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 18, 2020 01:50 PM (9o3wL)

I wanna see Old Joe getting it on....it would make history!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 18, 2020 02:16 PM (Z+IKu)

399 There may be a picture of him having sex with himself in a closet.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 18, 2020 01:52 PM (wHCvQ)

How many times to I have to tell you, it is an Orgone chamber!!

Posted by: Zombie Wilhelm Reich at October 18, 2020 02:17 PM (WyVLE)

400 367 Libs are in an alternate universe. Heidi got an email from a Lib that used the "Karen's " meme to describe people who Won't wear masks. The hell. Really?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 18, 2020 02:00 PM (Gd3Hn)

Scott Adams (Dilbert) has been making that point this week. He says that the two sides now live in completely different, parallel universes. They draw completely different conclusions from the same evidence. For example, they believe that Russia has obviously invented all of this Hunter stuff and given it to Rudy to protect their Agent, Trump. And only RAYCISTS! doubt that.

After the election, one side will turn out to be right, one will have been wrong. The losing side will not just have to face the loss of an election, but the complete collapse of their entire world view.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 02:17 PM (V2Yro)

401 I wanna see Old Joe getting it on....it would make history!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 18, 2020 02:16 PM (Z+IKu)

I want to see a photo of Hunter and Jill getting it on, while Joe watches!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 02:19 PM (V2Yro)

402 But at least they had to pass our board and
licensing exams. These companies are replacing doctors with nurse
practitioners trained to questionable standards at diploma mill online
schools. They get less than 1/10 of the training of a doctor, no
rigorous licensing or postgraduate training, and are pumped up full of
hubris that they know more than anyone. Patients are dying because of
it, but you are a racist, misogynist, bigot if you complain.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 18, 2020 01:54 PM (dNzKv)

The Flexner report and recommendations, financed by Carnegie and backed by the AMA, was supposed to end this sort of thing forever, as a method to weed out practitioners of "variant" therapies and schools of medical thought and as a way to ensure public health by securing proper medical care for everyone.

It was one of the centerpieces of the Progressive era, and LITERALLY TOOK ONE FREAKING CENTURY TO ENSURE EXACTLY WHAT IT CLAIMED TO TRY TO PREVENT

Posted by: Kindltot at October 18, 2020 02:23 PM (WyVLE)

403 So after reading the comments above about the exodus from San Francisco, I texted my cousins in the bay area for verification. We used to vacation with them east of the bay, cross the bridge and go to China Town, Napa, Sonoma, etc. We were last out there 3 1/2 years ago for a convention. When I asked how the city was, I was told they haven't been over to SF since then except to get to the airport or back. They try to fly into and out of Oakland now to avoid it. Currently all the restaurants and retail spaces are closed and/or bankrupt. Between druggies and homeless it's not even safe to travel around the city. Shoplifters aren't prosecuted so there are no retail spaces now. Any building locked and closed is now subject to vandalism to reclaim any wires/metal/electronics to sell at a recycling center. My memories of San Francisco from years past makes this such a sad, sad mental image for me now.

Posted by: MrObvious at October 18, 2020 02:25 PM (k+h+d)

404 I read a tweet somewhere (forget which website) that was someone's theory that big tech (google, facebook, etc) was using Wuhan to crush the real estate (mentioned NYC) so they could (and ARE) swoop in and buying real estate at a steal. Wouldn't be surprised if the same thing is being done in SF.
Posted by: DeplorablyBonnieBlue at October 18, 2020 02:15 PM

That works so well for Chinese, too.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at October 18, 2020 02:33 PM (3GzTP)

405 400---After the election, one side will turn out to be right, one will have been wrong. The losing side will not just have to face the loss of an election, but the complete collapse of their entire world view.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 18, 2020 02:17 PM (V2Yro)
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I think Adams is dead wrong about elections determining what's right or wrong.

If Biden wins, will YOU say the leftist take on things is true? Of course not.

Similarly, if Trump wins, it will not affect, much less collapse, the lefties' world view at all.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2020 02:35 PM (M/9m0)

406

Police unions nationwide have largely supported President Donald Trump's reelection, amid mass demonstrations over police brutality and accusations of systemic racism - but a number of Black law enforcement officers are speaking out against these endorsements, saying their concerns over entering the 2020 political fray were ignored.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 18, 2020 02:42 PM (63Dwl)

407 Black law enforcement officers are speaking out against these endorsements, saying their concerns over entering the 2020 political fray were ignored.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 18, 2020 02:42 PM (63Dwl)

Do those black LEOs include the black chiefs of police of cities like Seattle, who were forced out of office after the riots broke out? What about the black cops who are getting screamed at and called the n word by white antifa members?

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at October 18, 2020 02:52 PM (HabA/)

408 I think Adams is dead wrong about elections determining what's right or wrong.

If Biden wins, will YOU say the leftist take on things is true? Of course not.

Similarly, if Trump wins, it will not affect, much less collapse, the lefties' world view at all.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 18, 2020 02:35 PM (M/9m0)

Yes, but the Left needs to come down to earth regardless. For all our biases and (perhaps) exaggerations , we have been more right than wrong, more reasonable than not.

I wonder if when (God Willing) Trump gets re-elected, if the media will check itself.
Will everything from Morning Joe to Colbert--and everything in between--STILL carry on as it has since 2016?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 18, 2020 03:23 PM (HrMC1)

409 I call the people pushing for the lock downs to continue the 'paycheck privileged'. They are people unaffected by the shutdown because they can work from home or they're still collecting their government paycheck.

My sister is a federal government employee. She is the only person in her department to work on site five days a week since the beginning of the pandemic. Some of the other govvies are NIW working on site a few days a week, but her manager never created a pandemic plan - no plan for bringing workers back, no plan for what should be done when employees must interact with the public, etc. The other department in her building is in worse shape. Many of the employees have moved out of the area, even though their jobs do not permit distance working.

The whole thing is an extended vacation for the paycheck privileged.

Posted by: Biancaneve at October 18, 2020 06:12 PM (hkMx0)

410 You asked about unemployment.

NYS- 12.5 (August)
NJ- 10.9
CA-11.4
HI- 12.5

Michigan-8.7

FL- 7.4
AZ- 5.9
GA- 5.6
TX- 6.8

Posted by: NYC TRUMP SUPPORTER at October 19, 2020 05:41 PM (/FHTF)

411 https://www.bls.gov/lau/

Is the link to the data

Posted by: NYC TRUMP SUPPORTER at October 19, 2020 05:42 PM (/FHTF)

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