Contradicting National Polls, Actual Early Ballots Cast in Three Critical Swing States Show Republicans Even With Democrats, Or Even Ahead

One more big thing here, too:

National polls show that a greater percentage of Biden's voters intend to vote early than on election day.

So Biden actually should have far more early voters right now in these swing states, because he's going to have fewer votes on Election Day.

But the ballots cast show Republicans keeping pace with Democrats.

The Republican Party is keeping pace in mail-in and early voting in three key swing states despite polls showing early voting should clearly favor Joe Biden.

Data out of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio indicates that registered Republicans are returning ballots at about the same rate as registered Democrats in the battleground states.

In Michigan as of Wednesday, just over 1 million ballots have been returned, 40% from registered Democrats, with the same from registered Republicans. In Wisconsin, 40% of the 711,855 returned ballots have been from Democrats, while 38% have come from Republicans. The GOP actually leads in Ohio, with 45% of 475,259 early ballot returns coming from Republicans, compared to 43% from registered Democrats. The preliminary data matches up with the requests by party affiliation for mail-in ballots.

The data contradicts national polls showing Biden supporters overwhelmingly plan to vote by mail or early in person. According to a Pew Research poll released Friday, 55% of voters who plan to cast their ballot in person before Election Day support Biden, compared to 40% who support President Trump.


Biden's lead is even larger among those who plan to or already have voted by mail, with 69% saying they support Biden, compared to just 27% who support Trump. On the other hand, Trump leads those who plan to vote in person on Election Day, 63%-31%.

So if the great majority of Biden's voters claim they'll be voting early, but in fact are not voting at a greater rate than Republicans -- doesn't that mean the polls point to a Trump win in these three states?

In Florida, an average of recent polls shows Trump quickly filling the hole he'd dug for himself:

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Trafalgar -- one of the very few polling companies to get 2016 right -- puts Trump up over Biden in Michigan, 46.5% to 45.9%, obviously completely within the margin of error (0.6%).

Still: those national polls, filled with Californians and New Yorkers who just don't matter, are just not reflective of what's happening in the twelve states that do matter.

From WisRich:


New Hill/Harris Poll

FL: Biden 48, Trump 48, Tied

Internals:
Blacks: Biden 83, Trump 13
Hispanics: Biden 57, Trump 39

Uh oh Joe.


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1 Polls, shmolls.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 16, 2020 02:53 PM (nxdel)

2 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 02:54 PM (+rZgP)

3 Top 10!

Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 02:54 PM (RKLPC)

4 Trump wins by a landslide.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (nxdel)

5 It's so weird that Trump is suddenly improving less than three weeks to the election.

Man, all those late deciders going Trump...who could have guessed.

But those polls from June were completely accurate. Completely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (+rZgP)

6 Very proud that my 2016 vote in Michigan contributed to Trump's 11k margin of victory. Was certain at the time they'd manufacture enough ballots in Wayne County to make up the difference.
Oh, and thanks Jill Stein!

Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (RKLPC)

7 oh, and FIRST!

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (nxdel)

8 Well, it's definitely good news.

Posted by: Someguy at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (Zm+LZ)

9 The only good poll is a sausage.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (+y/Ru)

10 The media polls have been lying you say?

Who knew?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (ZLI7S)

11 USPS better start dumping alot more ballots !

Posted by: McCool at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (0GdRL)

12 Why am I not fifty points ahead, you ask.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (63Dwl)

13 Conventional wisdom says Republicans will be more dominant on voting day, that's my plan.

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (OjZpE)

14 Willowed:

New Hill/Harris Poll

FL: Biden 48, Trump 48, Tied

Internals:
Blacks: Biden 83, Trump 13
Hispanics: Biden 57, Trump 39

Uh oh Joe.

Posted by: WisRich at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (G0vdT)

15 It's so nice to be at the greatest place on the internet.

Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (vMCab)

16 6 Very proud that my 2016 vote in Michigan contributed to Trump's 11k margin of victory. Was certain at the time they'd manufacture enough ballots in Wayne County to make up the difference.
Oh, and thanks Jill Stein!
Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (RKLPC)

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The 70,000 ballots that left the presidential choice blank...I have a feeling there will be far fewer of those this year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (+rZgP)

17 I am NOT a fan of States publishing Ballot #'s Cast and Party Afiliations or any other date re. Votes Received Prior to Election Day.

Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (o9Qrb)

18 Only poll that counts ends on Nov. 3.

Posted by: Twitter at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (kHg6S)

19 Nice timing Jewells

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (OjZpE)

20 Off social outkast sock.

Posted by: Joe Mama at October 16, 2020 02:57 PM (kHg6S)

21 Guys!!! I had no idea income taxes are a thing that will be deducted from my civilian paycheck... just like my military pay! I thought only military paid income taxes. Thank God the government paid $50 million to create a training program to tell me!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 16, 2020 02:57 PM (dNzKv)

22 Early voting is bullshit. Vote on Election Day, or don't vote.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2020 02:57 PM (YqDXo)

23 I hope they are small polls with really young strippers.

Posted by: Leon Black at October 16, 2020 02:57 PM (o9Qrb)

24 18 Only poll that counts ends on Nov. 3.
Posted by: Twitter at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (kHg6S)

If that were true, he would breeze. This sh-t won't end this year.

Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 02:57 PM (BRkq2)

25 I am NOT a fan of States publishing Ballot #'s Cast and Party Afiliations or any other date re. Votes Received Prior to Election Day.
Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (o9Qrb)


Why, it's almost as if they are TRYING to influence voting.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 02:58 PM (hku12)

26 21 Guys!!! I had no idea income taxes are a thing that will be deducted from my civilian paycheck... just like my military pay! I thought only military paid income taxes. Thank God the government paid $50 million to create a training program to tell me!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 16, 2020 02:57 PM (dNzKv)

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It was either that or invading Grenada.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 02:58 PM (+rZgP)

27 23 I hope they are small polls with really young strippers.
Posted by: Leon Black at October 16, 2020 02:57 PM (o9Qrb)


Cutie Patootie...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 16, 2020 02:58 PM (s2VJv)

28 The polls have to be correct. I saw them on the internets

Posted by: Polls Karen at October 16, 2020 02:58 PM (MBds8)

29 I am NOT a fan of States publishing Ballot #'s Cast and Party Afiliations or any other date re. Votes Received Prior to Election Day.

We only do it if it boosts Democrat turnout.

Posted by: State Secretaries of State at October 16, 2020 02:58 PM (8DRUP)

30 In B4 the pole trollz.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 16, 2020 02:58 PM (ttBFI)

31 Not gonna hang any hopes on such things as horse-race #s for early voting, or absentees.

Not even gonna depend on registrations, which in places like PA show a yuuuuge GOP gain since 2016, or on things like the consistent #s of Dems and infrequent voters at Trump rallies.

But they all point in one direction.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 02:58 PM (OTzUX)

32 Methinks dull Normies suspect that there may be "suprises" closer to election time that may make voting on election day difficult or impossible. When the center of the herd is as skittish as those on the edge, this is what it looks like.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM (z79tQ)

33 Vote early, and often!

Posted by: DNC at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM (kHg6S)

34 Trump wins by a landslide.


Posted by: Jewells45 at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (nxdel)


No.


Trump is slightly behind everywhere, and we must energize the base and the undecideds and the casual Trump voters to get out and vote...early and often!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM (xT2tT)

35 31 But they all point in one direction.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 02:58 PM (OTzUX)

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*nods sagaciously*

Jo Jorgenson surprise victory.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM (+rZgP)

36 >>Why, it's almost as if they are TRYING to influence voting.


Motor Voter
Early Voting
Ballot Harvesting
Early Reporting


But, Photo IDs? REEEEEEEEEE!

Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM (o9Qrb)

37 There's no benefit to answering a pollster's questions honestly. Still can't believe how much media/etc. puts stock into the few answers they do get.

Posted by: sharksauce at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM (DFZnL)

38 In Pennsylvania, an average of recent polls shows Trump quickly filling the hole he'd dug for himself

The results in the picture look to be from Florida, boss.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM (NYS7S)

39 26 21 Guys!!! I had no idea income taxes are a thing that will be deducted from my civilian paycheck... just like my military pay! I thought only military paid income taxes. Thank God the government paid $50 million to create a training program to tell me!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 16, 2020 02:57 PM (dNzKv)

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It was either that or invading Grenada.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 02:58 PM (+rZgP)

*Thinks deeply and then erases e to replace with an A*
-top brass

Posted by: Someguy at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM (Zm+LZ)

40 Allahpundit is having a little meltdown over at HotAir because of the Trafalgar polling data.

Take away quote:

"If in fact Trump performs much better on Election Day than the competition expetcs, and especially if he does well enough to win another term, Cahaly (Trafalgar pollster) will instantly be the most renowned pollster in America. The rest of the polling industry will never recover its reputation."

Posted by: Nevyan at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM (a7HML)

41 "The 70,000 ballots that left the presidential choice blank...I have a feeling there will be far fewer of those this year."
Yup. And I was a reluctant Trump voter and really pulled the lever for the moderating influence of Pence. Not this time. Plenty of shy Trump supporters for sure as well, especially in the land of the thuggish UAW.

Like we keep saying, the '16 Trump-to-'20 Biden voter is a unicorn. It doesn't exist. But if it did, his name would be Chet.

Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 03:00 PM (RKLPC)

42 Reposting...

@PollWatch2020

This is an electoral win for Trump:

Trafalgar numbers from battlegrounds:

Florida: Trump by two
Pennsylvania: Biden by two
Wisconsin: Biden by three
North Carolina: Trump by two
Michigan: Trump by one
Ohio: Trump by four
Arizona: Trump by four

@furioustheguy

Replying to @PollWatch2020

Biden's average in Pennsylvania fell by 1.5 in about 2 days, and it'll fall even more once that crazy +13 Quinnipiac poll is phased out. Meanwhile, Trump's average is skyrocketing in Florida. Keep in mind this is 18 days before election day.

https://tinyurl.com/y4bdfndp

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2020 03:00 PM (cF8AT)

43 40 Allahpundit is having a little meltdown over at HotAir because of the Trafalgar polling data.

Take away quote:

"If in fact Trump performs much better on Election Day than the competition expetcs, and especially if he does well enough to win another term, Cahaly (Trafalgar pollster) will instantly be the most renowned pollster in America. The rest of the polling industry will never recover its reputation."
Posted by: Nevyan at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM (a7HML)

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That sounds like a quote from 2016.

You know, when Trafalgar did get pretty close and then...well...the industry proceeded to shit on them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:00 PM (+rZgP)

44 Allahpundit is the biggest asshoe in America.

Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (BRkq2)

45 If it comes from the media, or "organizations", or "officials", it's a lie. That's really the lesson of the last twenty (? I have no idea) years of AoS.

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (ZS2+d)

46 So I heard Tucker was going to break "everything" on Hunter Biden last night, right there on FOX News, who was going to totally let him do it.

What was the bombshell?

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (OZIO9)

47
"Hello, I'm a pollster and I'd like to ..."

"What the hell is a stripper doing calling this house? There are young children here!"

** click! **

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (pNxlR)

48 I have been saying all along that those polls were all BS. Trump is going to wipe the floor with Biden.

Posted by: Vic at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (mpXpK)

49 get out and vote...early and often!

I plan to!

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (nxdel)

50 I'll be voting on Election Day, but it's MO, so it doesn't matter.

Well, it does, but it doesn't.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (A1UwY)

51 Early voting stinks. People move, are convicted of felonies, or they die. They aren't eligible voters under those circumstances, except in Union County, NJ.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (fQzH1)

52 Hispanics: Biden 57, Trump 39

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Build the wall to keep those 39% bad Mexicans out!

Posted by: Joey "Fingers" Biden at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (Ojki1)

53 41 "The 70,000 ballots that left the presidential choice blank...I have a feeling there will be far fewer of those this year."
Yup. And I was a reluctant Trump voter and really pulled the lever for the moderating influence of Pence. Not this time. Plenty of shy Trump supporters for sure as well, especially in the land of the thuggish UAW.

Like we keep saying, the '16 Trump-to-'20 Biden voter is a unicorn. It doesn't exist. But if it did, his name would be Chet.
Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 03:00 PM (RKLPC)

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I voted for Gary Johnson in SC, figuring the state was safe for Trump.

Well, SC is still safe for Trump and I'm voting for Trump.

I suspect that I am representative of a lot of the Libertarian Party's newfound voters (roughly 4 million of them) in 2016.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (+rZgP)

54 Vote like your life depends on it, because it does.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (haWye)

55 >>>The results in the picture look to be from Florida, boss.


thank you, I fixed it now.

Posted by: Vespa Thunder at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (PbpT7)

56 Only poll that counts ends on Nov. 3.
Posted by: Twitter at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (kHg6S)

If that were true, he would breeze. This sh-t won't end this year.
Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 02:57 PM (BRkq2)


My assumption is the delays in certifying will only work up to a certain point. As they get closer to their deadline, and suits get filed, it'll fast track to the SC, and that should be that.

I can't see how this thing drags on beyond a few weeks. If that.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (hku12)

57 What hole did Trump dig in PA?

With the best economy in living memory, and one tied very specifically to Trump policies that are the diametric opposite of Biden "policies", and with a horrendous state govt. as bad as MI or IL or NY in the last 7 months, what kind of hole could he actually dig?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (OTzUX)

58 It's so weird that Trump is suddenly improving less than three weeks to the election.



Man, all those late deciders going Trump...who could have guessed.



But those polls from June were completely accurate. Completely.
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I wonder if there's some narrative that could explain why people are "changing their minds" this late in the election cycle?

Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (kOpft)

59 Did you see one of the Biden townhall questioners was a former Obama speechwriter?


Lmaooo

Posted by: Ha at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (+jNil)

60 Almost all of the polling companies are part of the establishment. They won't get dinged for being wrong. They do get dinged for not supporting the narrative.

Posted by: WOPR - Free Kyle Rittenhouse at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (WVeiZ)

61 52 Early voting stinks. People move, are convicted of felonies, or they die. They aren't eligible voters under those circumstances, except in Union County, NJ.
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Heh, I lived there once. Rahway. And you are completely fucking accurate.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (S00tp)

62
Just some dumbass speculation. Maybe it's better that the Hunter/Joe Biden revelations get dribbled out over the next couple of weeks rather than a total bombshell today. If Joe's handlers and toadies can't be sure what's next it's difficult for them and their MSM collaborators to come up with a dismissive response everyone can parrot.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (mht8P)

63 Betcha the spin is that a ton of those Republicans are voting for Biden because Trump is icky.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (GbPPJ)

64 53 Hispanics: Biden 57, Trump 39

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Build the wall to keep those 39% bad Mexicans out!
Posted by: Joey "Fingers" Biden at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (Ojki1)

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I fully believe that.

Trump pulled normal Hispanic numbers in 2016, and he's done nothing but good things for the community ever since. Also, BLM doesn't seem to be very popular with them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (+rZgP)

65 Heh.

Boss forgot to change his socks

Everyone point and laugh!!!!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (6FeV1)

66 46 So I heard Tucker was going to break "everything" on Hunter Biden last night, right there on FOX News, who was going to totally let him do it.

What was the bombshell?
Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (OZIO9)
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lmfao

Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (BRkq2)

67 The only reason the media and Never-Trumpers keep pushing national polls, which mean nothing with respect to how we elect a president, is to depress the president's turn-out.

Posted by: Dr Spank at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (NUrEK)

68 We voted today. There was a short line at the County Clerk's office here in Kentucky. Based on the signage we've seen, I'd say the turnout was Republican heavy.

There was one woman who told whomever was there to assist her that she needed a Democrat ballot. I said she needed some common sense knocked into her.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (3H9h1)

69 Do I need to repost from this morning?

I guess I'll just restate it, not sure I made it all clear.

There is a huge disparity between voter intent on when they plan to vote. 60% of GOP voters will vote on election day, 56% on Independents, and 30% of Democrats.

In actual election day voting, Trump will get TWICE as many votes as Biden.

The Democrats must bank early votes to remain competitive, and need to win the early vote by 40 to 50 points, otherwise they will lose.

They currently are not doing that. It is particularly bad in Michigan. The Michigan polls that show Biden leading are claiming that 3 times as many Biden voters have already voted as Trump voters. However, that is not true. In actual early votes, the GOP and Dem are even.

In Michigan the Dems are severely under performing, and if they don't get their voters to the polls soon, Michigan will not even be close.

There is NO SCENARIO where Biden can lose Florida and Michigan and win the election.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (5p7BC)

70 Did you see one of the Biden townhall questioners was a former Obama speechwriter?





Lmaooo

Posted by: Ha at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (+jNil)

The psycho mother who is pushing her kid to be a tranny is married to a Democrat who ran for the PA House.

Posted by: WOPR - Free Kyle Rittenhouse at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (WVeiZ)

71 I'll be curious to see what effect last night's town hall has on Trump's numbers. Probably it'll be limited by NBC's typically low ratings, but at the very least, I wouldn't expect them to go down any.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (A1UwY)

72 This is you are going to see this "third wave" ramped up to an insane level in the next two weeks. One way they will sell the seriousness of this situation is by shutting down pro and college football and the World Series before Election Day.

Then, the important states will cancel all in-person voting.

Posted by: cedal at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (hCqcJ)

73 58 What hole did Trump dig in PA?

With the best economy in living memory, and one tied very specifically to Trump policies that are the diametric opposite of Biden "policies", and with a horrendous state govt. as bad as MI or IL or NY in the last 7 months, what kind of hole could he actually dig?
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Umm one stage managed by Philly and Manhattan.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (S00tp)

74
Trump is slightly behind everywhere, and we must energize the base and the undecideds and the casual Trump voters to get out and vote...early and often!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM (xT2tT)

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This 1000X

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (22mNy)

75 The polling industry has no reputation to kill.

Oh, and btw, Nate Silver has figured the perfect way to grift from the polls but keep his reputation. He basically crowdsourced his data collection to the polling outfits but can turn around and blame them if his meta analysis is incorrect for giving him bad data. Or he takes victory laps when he is correct like in 2008 and 2012 with internal polling from a candidate to "correct" the media polls.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (OLiBJ)

76 Trump wins by a landslide.
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Not so fast there, Sparky!

Posted by: Big Ol' Buick Trunk at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (vg8iE)

77 "In Pennsylvania, an average of recent polls shows Trump quickly filling the hole he'd dug for himself:"

... and what "hole" was that?

Posted by: Kwai Chang Mandelblit at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (o+znz)

78 Plus, Trump is in Florida and just called Hunter the middle man in the Biden Crime family. This story will not go away and PDT won't let it go away, Twitter be damned. LOL.

Posted by: jmel at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (bVhJi)

79 59 It's so weird that Trump is suddenly improving less than three weeks to the election.



Man, all those late deciders going Trump...who could have guessed.



But those polls from June were completely accurate. Completely.
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I wonder if there's some narrative that could explain why people are "changing their minds" this late in the election cycle?
Posted by: Methos at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (kOpft)

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Late deciders.

Hunter.

Trump's covid recovery.

The soon to be released GDP numbers.

There are several to pick and choose from. Every post-election analysis will use at least three.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (+rZgP)

80 5 It's so weird that Trump is suddenly improving less than three weeks to the election.

Man, all those late deciders going Trump...who could have guessed.

But those polls from June were completely accurate. Completely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (+rZgP)

HE FAKED COVID TO GET SYMPATHY! IMPEACH!!!

Posted by: MSNBC at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (Ojki1)

81 Early voting is bullshit. Vote on Election Day, or don't vote.

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I completely concur. Early voting, all of it is just an avenue for fraud and shenanigans. Absentee for military and the infirm, fine. I'll all for that. Everybody else, get to the polls and vote or don't vote at all because you apparently can't make it a priority.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (O+I8R)

82 some humor @Boomieleaks:

Boomieleaks
@Boomieleaks
·
Oct 15
The Trump Town Hall should've just been Trump watching the Biden town hall and making jokes about it.

Posted by: m at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (6WbUY)

83 "I suspect that I am representative of a lot of the Libertarian Party's newfound voters (roughly 4 million of them) in 2016."
It does seem absolutely bizarre that NO ONE is talking about Libertarian or any other 3rd party candidates this cycle. That tells me non-proglodyte voters don't feel like they need an alternative to Trump this time around.

And Evan McMullin is still a deadbeat asshoe.

Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (RKLPC)

84 oops, more ballots accidentally delivered to a dumpster in KY.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (dNzKv)

85 I'll be voting on Election Day, but it's MO, so it doesn't matter.

Well, it does, but it doesn't.
Posted by: Dr. T at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (A1UwY)

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (z79tQ)

86 n Pennsylvania, an average of recent polls shows Trump quickly filling the hole he'd dug for himself


How did Trump dig a hole for himself? What did HE do?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (HrMC1)

87
Has anyone asked Joe recently about the Green New Deal? Endorsing it will be a big help in PA.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (mht8P)

88 Haven't done the details, but impression is that there is a very plausible scenario in which Trump gets to 270 without states engaging in massive election integrity assault. So the worst places can carry on all they want, but the presidential thing will be over. And if margins in FL and NC are big, and decent in NH and PA .... it will in fact be a fairly early night.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (OTzUX)

89 I am truly terrified of living in a country that would elect Joe Biden for president. What is wrong with democrats?

Posted by: iandeal at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (vgGyZ)

90 But Beto's former campaign manager knows how to win campaigns!!

Look at her track record.

Lol

I swear probably 70% of the "wine moms hate Trump" is driven by her berating anyone who says otherwise--"I got record numbers of suburban women to vote against incumbent Cruz. Don't you fucking dare tell me I'm not getting that now!!"

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (aO8Gd)

91 This is you are going to see this "third wave" ramped up to an insane level in the next two weeks. One way they will sell the seriousness of this situation is by shutting down pro and college football and the World Series before Election Day.

Then, the important states will cancel all in-person voting.
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I agree. There has been a steady stream of horror stories lately.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (vg8iE)

92 A poll worker in Alabama told me that during the primaries, a Elizabeth Warren showed up. Believes she got a Democrat ballot.

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (3aI0K)

93 IBD/Tipp followed Rasmussen today and has the national poll down to Biden +5 after Biden +8 at the beginning of the week.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (xPl2J)

94 >> This is you are going to see this "third wave" ramped up to an insane level in the next two weeks.


Already underway, Boss.

Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (lWn68)

95 I do plan on voting in person, as I have always done. However, I think I will go early, since that is an option.

Just wish the damn calls would quit after I've cast my ballot.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (ch6++)

96 Trump getting WuFlu and then recovering in 2 days was yuuuge I think. People finally fgured out catching the virus does not mean instant death, the way the MSM was presenting it.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (22mNy)

97 >>In Pennsylvania, an average of recent polls shows Trump quickly filling the hole he'd dug for himself:

I don't know, ace. I think the polls are just fake. As election time gets closer, they're less fake so the polling companies can say "WE GOT IT RIGHT!" but I highly, HIGHLY doubt that there are enough people who said, "well, damn. I was going to vote for that Trump fellow, until a fly landed on Pence's head, then I said, ya know what, it's biden for me!" (or any other thing that the pundits say changes votes) to sway a poll.

I think it's nonsense. Everyone knew who they were going to vote for months ago.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (cnTJD)

98 This is so great:

70 There is NO SCENARIO where Biden can lose Florida and Michigan and win the election.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (5p7BC)

Posted by: m at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (6WbUY)

99 The media polls have been lying you say?

Who knew?
Posted by: JackStraw
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*raises hand*

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (5p7BC)

100 The mail-in ballot I got is a little confusing to me and I'm a college grad.

I imagine it will be pretty difficult for many typical democrat voters.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (HrMC1)

101 Do we bet against PDT? No, we do not bet against PDT.

Posted by: Weasel at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (MVjcR)

102 17 I am NOT a fan of States publishing Ballot #'s Cast and Party Afiliations or any other date re. Votes Received Prior to Election Day.
Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM

AGREED!

Posted by: Moonbeam at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (qe5CM)

103 I knew Biden was done when they had registered democrats asking him questions in one town hall, and then those same people were announced as independents in a later town hall.

People are swinging Trump's way!

Posted by: Shenanigans at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (ZR7kf)

104 We got our ballots yesterday which kind of surprised me seeing as we daily get 3 to 5 Trump & other Republican mailers.

Posted by: Beartooth at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (a5ALn)

105
Everyone knew who they were going to vote for months ago.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (cnTJD)

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Except for that ditz Ann Althouse.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (mht8P)

106 What hole did Trump dig in PA?

With the best economy in living memory, and one tied very specifically to Trump policies that are the diametric opposite of Biden "policies", and with a horrendous state govt. as bad as MI or IL or NY in the last 7 months, what kind of hole could he actually dig?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (OTzUX)


Too many blue collar jobs. The people can't keep up! They want a break, and Joe is just the man to break them.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (hku12)

107 Keep having that fear that those high polls were to legitimize all the phony ballots later

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (3aI0K)

108
The cookie sales say Trump in a landslide.
All you pollsters ain't doing it right.

Posted by: Lochel's Bakery Hatboro PA at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (LilNs)

109 Not a fan of pre election day voting, the small minority who couldn't be home is fine but mass mail voting is all fraud.
Look up the new Prager U video on Mail voting fraud.

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (OjZpE)

110 AOC and the kiddies grap the ball ...
13
Democratic lawmakers demanding that no corporate lobbyists or executives
be confirmed to cabinet House progressives and liberal groups Friday
called for corporate lobbyists and executives to be shut out from a
Biden Administration, drawing a clear line on what they expect if
Democrats win the election.

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (3aI0K)

111 Salon is trying to tie John James to the leftists who tried to kidnap Gov. Karen. Based on what? Based on what the FBI alleges.



Michigan Republican Senate candidate John James received campaign contributions and was photographed with the organizer of the rally where conspirators accused of planning to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer allegedly plotted with a militia to recruit more members.



Ryan D. Kelley was the organizer of the "Well-Regulated Militia" rally at the Michigan capitol in June. The FBI alleged in court documents that the leader of the group who plotted the attack on Whitmer met with militia leader Ty Garbin and a confidential source at the rally to discuss a plan and recruit more members.




It's all the FBI alleges. However there are no real ties. Just that some of the would be kidnappers showed up at one event and the FBI is saying that's where they plotted the kidnapping. What does the FBI base that on? The FBI's political agenda.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (Q9/s7)

112 50 I'll be voting on Election Day, but it's MO, so it doesn't matter.

Well, it does, but it doesn't.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (A1UwY)

Yeah, same here.

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2020 03:07 PM (cF8AT)

113 I fully believe that.



Trump pulled normal Hispanic numbers in 2016, and he's done nothing
but good things for the community ever since. Also, BLM doesn't seem to
be very popular with them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (+rZgP)

The only place it really makes a difference though is Florida and a bit in Texas. California is still a loss. It's nice to win more. But if after everything Trump has done, that's the best we can do, it isn't good. We don't make up in volume.

Posted by: WOPR - Free Kyle Rittenhouse at October 16, 2020 03:07 PM (WVeiZ)

114 84 "I suspect that I am representative of a lot of the Libertarian Party's newfound voters (roughly 4 million of them) in 2016."
It does seem absolutely bizarre that NO ONE is talking about Libertarian or any other 3rd party candidates this cycle. That tells me non-proglodyte voters don't feel like they need an alternative to Trump this time around.

And Evan McMullin is still a deadbeat asshoe.
Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (RKLPC

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Gary Johnson regularly polled between 6-8% in 2016. He ended up with 3.5% in the election.

Jo Jorgenson is now regularly polling around 3%, representing a very solid return to the mean.

Democrats had their own protest vote candidate, Jill Stein, and the Green Party did increase their historical average from about .3% to about .9%. Disaffected Democrats voted for Stein. Disaffected Republicans voted for Johnson.

And Jorgenson is not pulling Johnson's numbers. The Libertarian protest vote is going to come home to Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:07 PM (+rZgP)

115 I logged in to my brokerage account this morning. I got a pop up window urging me to vote. Big tech is in overdrive for Biden.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:07 PM (22mNy)

116 I've been filling holes my whole life.


Trump/What'sHisName 2020

Posted by: Donald Fucking Trump at October 16, 2020 03:07 PM (NUrEK)

117 The only reason the media and Never-Trumpers keep pushing national polls, which mean nothing with respect to how we elect a president, is to depress the president's turn-out.
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (NUrEK)

Seriously, does that even work anymore though? I mean, I'm going to go vote the first day I'm back from vaca (early voting in MA starts next week) though my vote (in MA, you know) means absolutely nothing to the POTUS election and none of the other races in my area are competitive (most are not even contested).

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at October 16, 2020 03:07 PM (NYS7S)

118
I vote for A leppo!

Posted by: Ann Althouse at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (LilNs)

119 98 >>In Pennsylvania, an average of recent polls shows Trump quickly filling the hole he'd dug for himself:

I don't know, ace. I think the polls are just fake. As election time gets closer, they're less fake so the polling companies can say "WE GOT IT RIGHT!" but I highly, HIGHLY doubt that there are enough people who said, "well, damn. I was going to vote for that Trump fellow, until a fly landed on Pence's head, then I said, ya know what, it's biden for me!" (or any other thing that the pundits say changes votes) to sway a poll.

I think it's nonsense. Everyone knew who they were going to vote for months ago.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (cnTJD)

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My new theory is that media polls are designed to get Republicans to misallocate resources, especially in senate races.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (+rZgP)

120 In Florida, an average of recent polls shows Trump quickly filling the hole he'd dug for himself:

How did he did a hole for himself? It seems to be it's more of the media trying to dig a hole FOR him. He is in Florida today talking to Seniors.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (WkPC9)

121 If Trump pulls a few points AHEAD of Biden--and the polls are honest about that---it will be extremely difficult for Biden to close the gap.
If there's any momentum, it will all be to Trump

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (HrMC1)

122 What were the ratings for last night's "town halls?"

Posted by: Desultory joe at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (L9P9s)

123 If Joe's handlers and toadies can't be sure what's next it's difficult for them and their MSM collaborators to come up with a dismissive response everyone can parrot.

Its the O'keeffe method...
Give a little... let them deny it and say it was just ONE employee.
Then release the next one... let them deny again.
Then the next one...
Eventually all they're left with is 'out of context' and 'highly edited'

Posted by: McCool at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (0GdRL)

124 Posted this before. If you believe that Biden is going to win, there are only 5 ways that's mathematically possible.

1. Trump 2016 voters flip to Biden
2. Trump 2016 voters stay home
3. Democrat voters who did not vote in 2016 turn out for Biden
4. Third Party 2016 voters break for Biden
5. Trump 2016 voters flip to Third Party

Does anyone have good anecdotal support for any of these? Not that I've seen. Liberals will argue that 1 and 5 are possible because Trump's senior base is freaked out over the Rona. 4 is unlikely because there were more Johnson and McMuffin voters than Stein voters in 2016, and they are more apt to lean right. As for 2, lol. That leaves 3. Are there a bunch of black voters who didn't turn out for Hillary but will for Biden? I doubt it, but maybe. Heavy black turnout was the thing we all missed in 2012, but that was with Obama on the ballot.

Posted by: where's the whiskey at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (sS+kn)

125 > Early voting is bullshit. Vote on Election Day, or don't vote.

Wut?

Our normal polling place, an elementary school is not open for voting. If we went down to the County Clerk's Office on Election Day we'd be there, waiting in line, until November 7th.

There was no difference in the voting process between this election and the last. Only the location was different. Show ID, sign for ballot, vote.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (3H9h1)

126 polls tightening? must be a month ending in October

Posted by: x at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (0tE/i)

127 In Michigan the Dems are severely under performing, and if they don't get their voters to the polls soon, Michigan will not even be close.

--

Let me ask this question. If these D voters who don't vote early, but still do not show up on Election Day (from lack of enthusiasm or whatever), isn't this where their unused ballots can miraculously be cast "for them" in the 9th hour by some shady characters? It's an honest question.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (O+I8R)

128 You know, when Trafalgar did get pretty close and then...well...the industry proceeded to shit on them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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ORC was pretty close too. CNN fired them for it.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (5p7BC)

129
There are a raft of reasons I want Trump to win.

But the final humiliation of the entire polling industry is a big one.

I look forward to an election cycle where Allahpundit has nothing to write about. There's an entire class of useless eaters in this country who make a living off of this bullshit, and they should go learn to code.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 16, 2020 03:09 PM (eXmcp)

130 114 Trump pulled normal Hispanic numbers in 2016, and he's done nothing
but good things for the community ever since. Also, BLM doesn't seem to
be very popular with them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (+rZgP)

The only place it really makes a difference though is Florida and a bit in Texas. California is still a loss. It's nice to win more. But if after everything Trump has done, that's the best we can do, it isn't good. We don't make up in volume.
Posted by: WOPR - Free Kyle Rittenhouse at October 16, 2020 03:07 PM (WVeiZ)

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Arizona and New Mexico.

Trump very well could win Arizona, and he very well could make it close in New Mexico.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:09 PM (+rZgP)

131 The only place it really makes a difference though is Florida and a bit in Texas. California is still a loss. It's nice to win more. But if after everything Trump has done, that's the best we can do, it isn't good. We don't make up in volume.
Posted by: WOPR - Free Kyle Rittenhouse at October 16, 2020 03:07 PM (WVeiZ)

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AZ, GA, NC, NV all have significant Hispanic populations too

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:09 PM (22mNy)

132 Man, all those late deciders going Trump...who could have guessed.

*************

Same as 2016, suddenly Trump had millions of voters breaking for him day before election.

Unexpectedly.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:09 PM (8YFRI)

133 I've got a few friends who are very much on the "Trump needs to stop tweeting!" train.

I asked if they ever actually read his feed, not just isolated shitposts or other people's reactions to his tweets. His feed is just an avalanche of good news and good vibes and a bit of snark here and there... how much of what's in his feed do most people never even hear of?

And i think they may have actually listened to me, and realized that the actual man who is president is not the evil villain the propaganda media has portrayed him as.

They still don't like him.... but it's not that onanistic kneejerk hatred they had been conditioned into. And they seem to hate the news media now almost as much as i do.

I can live with that for now.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2020 03:09 PM (6FeV1)

134 This is rich ...
One-time White House press secretary Anthony Scaramucci decried "cancel
culture" after C-SPAN journalist Steve Scully was indefinitely suspended
over a lie about being hacked on Twitter.

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:09 PM (3aI0K)

135 How many of those registered Democrats voters who have already voted vote for Trump compared to how many registered Republicans voted for Biden.

Posted by: Kennyraisin at October 16, 2020 03:09 PM (R8qIC)

136 I would take this with a big grain of salt. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio do not register by party in my understanding, so there is no such thing as a registered republican or democrat from those states.

The party percentages referred to in the link are based on modelling by a firm called Target Smart. They have collected data files on voters, but I have never seen them before this year, so I have no idea how their estimates will translate to actual final vote shares or how predictive their data really is.

Most states with actual registration by party seem to be showing much higher percentages of democrats voting early, as expected for this year based on surveys. Much higher percentages of Republicans say they will vote on election day.

Hopefully the numbers are accurate, but I'm not making any bets on it.

Posted by: Craig at October 16, 2020 03:09 PM (hr+TK)

137 67 46 So I heard Tucker was going to break "everything" on Hunter Biden last night, right there on FOX News, who was going to totally let him do it.

What was the bombshell?
Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (OZIO9)

Something about you should buy insurance, you should buy pizza, your children will die if you don't buy a new kind of home alarm, you should eat this brand of corn chip, and Fox has a special coming up tomorrow.

Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 03:09 PM (BRkq2)

138 I think it's nonsense. Everyone knew who they were going to vote for months ago.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (cnTJD)


It's not about who, it's about how many.

Which is why mail-in voting exists. Anything that makes it easier to vote is designed to make sure the votes happen.

All the olds and the poors and PoCs and the yoots, if all they have to do is lick a stamp, the thing goes in.

If they have to show up at a polling site, they're not as likely to do that.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (hku12)

139 Polls, shmolls.
Posted by: Jewells45 at October 16, 2020 02:53 PM (nxdel)

That's the COVID talking.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (ExV1e)

140 My guess: 331-207

Trump wins everything he won in 2016, and he picks up New Hampshire, Minnesota, Nevada, and in a shock to the media, New Mexico.

Much as I would love to swing Virginia back, I don't think it'll happen. That state has decided to become California-East.

In fact Virginia needs to be the wake-up call to conservative people that tend not to vote in places like North Carolina and Georgia. It only takes one or two bad elections for Democrats to ruin a state.

Posted by: Shenanigans at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (ZR7kf)

141 Breaking: Baraka getting out of his rotting, cigarette stanked, club chair to go campaign for Sleazy Joe. What city is Baraka going to?


Philla. Think about that for a hot minute.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (sUppP)

142 So Vespa Thunder's old buddy Nichols is crowing about "outing" the Nodding Black Woman* at the Trump interrogation, er, "town hall". Appears she's politically active as a GOPer.

But was the audience there billed as "undecideds", like all the former Obama employees and former Dem candidates at the previous event? Don't know. Either way, whatever, but certainly takes any tiny sting out of the "revelation".

* not sure, but appears she might be a 1, somebody has an article on her

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (OTzUX)

143 Ah, but you don't realize those are registered lifelong Republicans who have switched to Biden. If that's not what the ballots actually show now, fear not. That's what they will show when opened and counted.

We cannot allow voter suppression directed against those who intend to vote for Biden, but mistakenly checked "Trump". Remember those fake Buchanan votes in 2000? We can trust those who do the counting to discern the real intent of the voter.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (7X3UV)

144 Let me ask this question. If these D voters who don't vote early, but still do not show up on Election Day (from lack of enthusiasm or whatever), isn't this where their unused ballots can miraculously be cast "for them" in the 9th hour by some shady characters? It's an honest question.
Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (O+I8R)

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We are ready.
- Buicks in Detroit

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (22mNy)

145 Friend wants me to go to Ulta with her so she can pick out an eye shadow that matches one of my shiners because it "really makes the blue stand out."

I have the {{{best friends.}}}

Posted by: IrishEi at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (sGotD)

146
Something about you should buy insurance, you should buy pizza, your children will die if you don't buy a new kind of home alarm, you should eat this brand of corn chip, and Fox has a special coming up tomorrow.
Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 03:09 PM (BRkq2)

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Mmmmmm, pizza!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (mht8P)

147 >>> Who knew?
Posted by: JackStraw
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*raises hand*
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (5p7BC)

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Teacher's pet!

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (umQHI)

148 99 The media polls have been lying you say?

Who knew?
Posted by: JackStraw
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*raises hand*
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (5p7BC)

*raises two hands*

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (6xA3t)

149 I'll be voting on Election Day, but it's MO, so it doesn't matter.

Well, it does, but it doesn't.
Posted by: Dr. T at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (A1UwY)

IT DOES!!
The question of legitimacy arising from Trump losing the national totals while winning the electoral college can be put to rest if 1) He comes closer this time by narrowing the gap in blue states or 2) Puts to be the idea of scrapping the electoral college by winning the national count outright.

We know how many folks in blue states don't bother to vote because it don't matter, but if we can get those people to the polls anyways it could make a difference in the perceptions of the stupid and easily mislead. Which turns out to be a rather sizable chunk of the American electorate.

And who knows, it could make a difference in a few congressional districts. So, if you're a deep blue stater get out and vote, and take your apathetic neighbors with you.
I guess the same could be said about safe red staters too, but it seems red staters know how tenuous jthat status is.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (z79tQ)

150 128 You know, when Trafalgar did get pretty close and then...well...the industry proceeded to shit on them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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ORC was pretty close too. CNN fired them for it.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (5p7BC)
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To bad the LA Times didn't do their daily tracking poll the year. I guess it was too accurate so the Dem's nuked it.

Posted by: WisRich at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (G0vdT)

151 It's all the FBI alleges. However there are no real ties. Just that some of the would be kidnappers showed up at one event and the FBI is saying that's where they plotted the kidnapping. What does the FBI base that on? The FBI's political agenda.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (Q9/s7)
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Ok I'm confused. Isn't (R) candidate John James a black man? And they've already determined that white supremacists are the ones who plotted the kidnapping? So a black man was part of a white supremacist plot?

Posted by: Boots at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (oGBso)

152 How much you want to bet the national polls suddenly swing 15 fucking points to Trump one day before the election so we can all get to hear how the polling industry has been right all along?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (8YFRI)

153 140
In fact Virginia needs to be the wake-up call to conservative people that tend not to vote in places like North Carolina and Georgia. It only takes one or two bad elections for Democrats to ruin a state.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (ZR7kf)

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I've heard that the House of Burgess's wild ride over the past couple of years has ignited some blowback. So, not impossible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (+rZgP)

154 The mail-in ballot I got is a little confusing to me and I'm a college grad.



I imagine it will be pretty difficult for many typical democrat voters.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (HrMC1)

How can a ballot be confusing? Plus, graduating with a feminist intersectionality degree is barely a degree. :-)

Posted by: WOPR - Free Kyle Rittenhouse at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (WVeiZ)

155 Remember that both in 2000 and in 2016 the Democrats claimed that the EXIT POLLS were more accurate than the actual voting. And exit polls are even more bogus than pre-election polls -- who in their right ind would confess in-person to some green-haired nose-pierced college minimum-wage freak with a clipboard on the sidewalk outside the polling place the they voted for Trump? No one.

So of course Hillary (and earlier, Gore) obliterated the Republicans in the exit polling.

They're going to pull that again this year, guaranteed. If Trump wins, they'll claim the election "was hacked," since the more-accurate exit polling showed Biden won.

Posted by: zombie at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (HEEq1)

156 It only takes one or two bad elections for Democrats to ruin a state.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (ZR7kf)

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Listen to this guy!!!!

Posted by: California at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (22mNy)

157 Trump knows two things - how to close a deal and he knows how to win. He also happens to be the best mass communicator since Reagan and one of the best the planet has ever seen.

Chinese Flu gave them a small opening which they are using to make everyone as miserable as possible... and mail-in fake balloting may ensure he doesn't win the popular vote (which he otherwise would easily) but in terms of the election they don't stand a fucking chance.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (OZIO9)

158 Trump wins by a landslide.


Posted by: Jewells45 at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (nxdel)


From your mouth to God's ears, dear lady. But I don't believe it. I can't believe it. I have to believe in a Biden win, or the disappointment / disgust / anger will ruin me.

Let us not start punching each others' babies in the dick just yet.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2020 03:12 PM (2JVJo)

159 Wut?

Our normal polling place, an elementary school is not open for voting. If we went down to the County Clerk's Office on Election Day we'd be there, waiting in line, until November 7th.

There was no difference in the voting process between this election and the last. Only the location was different. Show ID, sign for ballot, vote.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 16, 2020 03:08 PM (3H9h1)


It's an argument for how it SHOULD be, not how you should do it, given the way things are.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:12 PM (hku12)

160 I asked if they ever actually read his feed

I'm too busy to be a fact-checker. That's what Xi NN is for. Believe you me, it saves a lot of time!

Posted by: t-bird at October 16, 2020 03:12 PM (BvZkh)

161 37 There's no benefit to answering a pollster's questions honestly. Still can't believe how much media/etc. puts stock into the few answers they do get.
Posted by: sharksauce at October 16, 2020 02:59 PM

When I get a text from organization, it's usually a single question, and I do respond that I am voting for Trump.

Posted by: Moonbeam at October 16, 2020 03:12 PM (qe5CM)

162 I'll be voting on Election Day, but it's MO, so it doesn't matter.

***

Everyone needs to stop thinking like this.

it matters, whether you're in a blue state or not. I want trump to win the popular vote and completely break the left psychologically.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:12 PM (8YFRI)

163 3 things:
I feel good (gut-wise) about Trump winning swing states based on my poll watching. Always add points to Trump for silenced voters in these polls.


I am surprised that Biden had that percentage of hispanics in FL, but I don't know what Trump had in 2016.

I am really worried about the cheating in Texas. Day after day of fraud stories in the hundreds of thousands of ballots. The dems may have decided this is where they will pull off the scam. Those EV could never be made up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2020 03:12 PM (r+sAi)

164
So a black man was part of a white supremacist plot?

Posted by: Boots at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (oGBso)

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Sure, just like Yezhov was a German spy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2020 03:12 PM (mht8P)

165 I would take this with a big grain of salt. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio do not register by party in my understanding, so there is no such thing as a registered republican or democrat from those states.
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Ohio registers by party.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2020 03:12 PM (vg8iE)

166 I'll be voting on Election Day, but it's MO, so it doesn't matter.

Well, it does, but it doesn't.
Posted by: Dr. T at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (A1UwY)

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It matters. Every vote matters. Just vote.

Posted by: California at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (22mNy)

167 Medved right now trying to make sense as to why Biden had more viewers than Trump.

Probably cause people wanted to see a shit show.

Posted by: Jack Burton, who was born ready at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (1+Jvs)

168 How much you want to bet the national polls suddenly
swing 15 fucking points to Trump one day before the election so we can
all get to hear how the polling industry has been right all along?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (8YFRI)

Nope, they're all in this time. It's going to be the polls have Biden up 100 million votes. Trump cheated with Russian help. Let the riots continue.

Posted by: WOPR - Free Kyle Rittenhouse at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (WVeiZ)

169 Fox just reported French police treating Paris killing as terror related.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (qyH+l)

170 A relative of mine received a mail-in ballot and it tells you that you MUST sign to acknowledge that you requested it. Only, she didn't request it and they sent one to everyone. She's hardcore Trump and afraid to even sign it. Total clusterfuck.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (OZIO9)

171 The fact that Hunter's lawyer called the computer shop and demanded the computer be returned negates a Russian op.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (dNzKv)

172 Philla. Think about that for a hot minute.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (sUppP)

Obama won't go where he is needed, he will go where he is loved, just to massage his ego.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (xT2tT)

173 67 46 So I heard Tucker was going to break "everything" on Hunter Biden
last night, right there on FOX News, who was going to totally let him do
it.



What was the bombshell?

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:01 PM (OZIO9)

The big news was that there is an email that ask Hunter to get the US government to say good thing about Burisma and get everybody prosecuting Burisma stopped.

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (3aI0K)

174 I am NOT a fan of States publishing Ballot #'s Cast and Party Afiliations or any other date re. Votes Received Prior to Election Day.
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Now you know why neither party will get rid of early voting.
Despite it not increasing voter participation in any way as promised

In every state that has early voting, the campaigns knows who won by Sunday before election day

Because, by then, 2/3 or more of the vote has been cast.

You match who had voted against your voter history rolls and, ta-da: You know the winner.

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (aO8Gd)

175 >>So a black man was part of a white supremacist plot?



Don't you see, it's the Perfect Crime!?

Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (Hz1pN)

176 What city is Baraka going to?
Philla. Think about that for a hot minute.


Isnt that where Hillary wrapped up her campaign ?
with musicians and a party like atmosphere ...

She shoulda went to Wisconsin...

Posted by: McCool at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (0GdRL)

177 Fox just reported French police treating Paris killing as terror related.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (qyH+l)

We may never know the motive.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (OZIO9)

178 Allahpundit is the biggest asshoe in America.

Speaking of assholes . . .

Posted by: Hope Solo's Globetrotting Squeakhole at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (2JVJo)

179 The fact that Hunter's lawyer called the computer shop and demanded the computer be returned negates a Russian op.


Unless that is what the russians want us to think.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (dNzKv)

180 How are the strippers polling?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (pB6Gt)

181 The best Poles are in Poland.
The second best polls are manned by Vlad Tepes.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (fNjs9)

182 You getta lyin' and I'll get get a poll, honey

You getta lyin' and I'll get a poll, bae.

You getta lyin'; I'll get a poll,

You go down on my front hole,

Homey, your baby gravy, oh my.

Posted by: George and Savannah at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (3NSv1)

183 Has anyone asked Joe recently about the Green New Deal? Endorsing it will be a big help in PA.



Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (mht8P)

===============
Regardless of what he says when talking in Pennsy, Biden explicitly endorses the GND on his campaign website.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (fQzH1)

184 Consarnit, I'm gonna have to close this here AoSHQ.

I'm starting to feel encouraged, and that won't do! I won't have it, I tells ya! This feeling good thing ain't right. It just ain't.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (hku12)

185 I'm about to check out of work to head up north to pull the boat lifts and close the cabin. In the snow. Some of you idiots are welcome. You know who you are.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (sjdRT)

186 180 How are the strippers polling?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (pB6Gt)

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Greasily.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (+rZgP)

187 Much as I would love to swing Virginia back, I don't think it'll happen. That state has decided to become California-East.

***********

I'd like to think Virginia has at least a better chance than Colorado, which has gone full fuckninny up its pot headed ass.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (8YFRI)

188 The fact that Hunter's lawyer called the computer shop and demanded the computer be returned negates a Russian op.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (dNzKv)

Unless Hunter's lawyer is on Putin's payroll.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (OZIO9)

189 Ohio registers by party.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2020 03:12 PM (vg8iE)

Yep. You can even go to the state board of elections website and pull down every registered voter, what they are registered as, and what elections they voted in.

Posted by: WOPR - Free Kyle Rittenhouse at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (WVeiZ)

190 My wife is not sure if we should do Thanksgiving this year with her inlaws. Not because the midget Dr.'s advice but because the election. It may still be too raw only 3 weeks after the election.

What a sad state of affairs we are living in.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (22mNy)

191 Like Steve Bannon says in this clip to Maria Bartiromo...

Joe Biden has been compromised by our greatest enemy: Bannon

Oct. 16, 2020 - 9:00 - Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon argues Joe Biden 'can't be president because he's been compromised by the Chinese Communist Party.'

https://tinyurl.com/y5ud7yd3

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (sfhL4)

192 That tells me non-proglodyte voters don't feel like they need an alternative to Trump this time around.

And Evan McMullin is still a deadbeat asshoe.
Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (RKLPC)



Because the shitheads that were pushing that last time were pretending that they didn't want Hillary to win but there was no way they could vote for Trump. The "It's not binary!" But they thought doing that would still allow Hillary to win. This time they have realized that convincing people to vote third party could potentially peel away more Biden voters than Trump voters.

Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (vMCab)

193 Hunter's pedo will be sixteen or seventeen.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (fNjs9)

194 I don't believe FL.. I think Trump is more than tied there

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (Zmnko)

195 Everyone needs to stop thinking like this.

it matters, whether you're in a blue state or not. I want trump to win the popular vote and completely break the left psychologically.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:12 PM (8YFRI)

Oh yeah. Winning is not enough. They must be humiliated.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (6FeV1)

196 Mom worked the polls in 2016. She said people were bonkers excited to vote for Trump. She couldn't walk away from the machines fast enough after explaining how to use it before she saw their vote choice. She also said that they didn't care about voting for anyone else. Just Trump.

Posted by: jmel at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (bVhJi)

197 TJM, it's been a while, but very close direct association with the process by which Senate race resources were allocated showed public polling was 0% of the formula.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (OTzUX)

198
Unless Hunter's lawyer is on Putin's payroll.
Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (OZIO9)

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Wheels within wheels, man.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (mht8P)

199 Fox just reported French police treating Paris killing as terror related.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (qyH+l)

==

Uh-oh. That can only mean one thing. Backlash against the mostly peaceful muslims that never comes!

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (O+I8R)

200 Early voting is bullshit. Vote on Election Day, or don't vote.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 16, 2020 02:57 PM (YqDXo)

Man, my wife and I were gonna vote on Monday but I guess we'll just give it a pass this year.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (ExV1e)

201 187 Much as I would love to swing Virginia back, I don't think it'll happen. That state has decided to become California-East.

***********

I'd like to think Virginia has at least a better chance than Colorado, which has gone full fuckninny up its pot headed ass.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (8YFRI)



It has decided to become D.C.'s electoral votes.

Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (vMCab)

202 The fact that Hunter's lawyer called the computer shop and demanded the computer be returned negates a Russian op.



Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (dNzKv)

Unless Biden's lawyer is a senile old fool like "the big guy"

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (3aI0K)

203 A reminder that about a month ago California and New York City were pleading with people to fill out the Census and be counted. I believe there was a news report that in New York City less that 65% of residents had responded to the Census with only weeks to go.

The question is... where are these residents? Did they all move out?

The implications of failing to count so many people though are huge -- if so few people are counted in NYC and California and other blue states then that means in January when reapportionment of the House and Electoral College is made there could be a SIGNIFICANT loss of seats and EC votes in Blue States for the next 10 years.

I believe one pundit has said that New York AND California could lose 2 - 3 representatives each.

Thoughts?



Posted by: Nevyan at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (a7HML)

204 I agree. There has been a steady stream of horror stories lately.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2020 03:04 PM (vg8iE)

Just listening to sports radio this afternoon, there has been a steady stream of callers, in all likelyhood Democrat plants, who are fearing that one of the NFL players is going to "perish" if they continue playing the season with all these increasing positive tests coming back. These callers all cite the same "bunch of college players" who were diagnosed with myocarditis and the one player on the Red Sox who didn't play this season who had had an irregular heartbeat.

The wheels are in motion to shut down sports as a precursor to shut down in person voting.

Posted by: cedal at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (hCqcJ)

205 Trump primed people in Debate #1 to see things when they observe Biden.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (OZIO9)

206 196 Mom worked the polls in 2016. She said people were bonkers excited to vote for Trump. She couldn't walk away from the machines fast enough after explaining how to use it before she saw their vote choice. She also said that they didn't care about voting for anyone else. Just Trump.
Posted by: jmel at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (bVhJi)

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That's a lot of people who get excited about a presidential candidate.

I helped little black ladies in 2012 at the polls who clicked Obama's name and then just walked away without even finishing up the ballot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (+rZgP)

207 In every state no matter how red or how blue there are elections that "matter". Local elections specifically where it only takes a few votes to swing them since most people don't even bother voting for those.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (22mNy)

208

China.

The key element this election cycle. China.

From Wall Street to sports to hollywood. China is killing millions of people as we speak. China is controlling wall street, pro sports, hollywood.

All of these hundreds of millions of dollars being dumped into Biden and the DNC? China

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (sfhL4)

209 142 So Vespa Thunder's old buddy Nichols is crowing about "outing" the Nodding Black Woman* at the Trump interrogation, er, "town hall". Appears she's politically active as a GOPer.

But was the audience there billed as "undecideds", like all the former Obama employees and former Dem candidates at the previous event? Don't know. Either way, whatever, but certainly takes any tiny sting out of the "revelation".

* not sure, but appears she might be a 1, somebody has an article on her
Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (OTzUX)

They were NOT all billed as undecideds. It was likely Trump voters, likely Biden voters and undecides.

Guthrie listed their voting preferences before they all asked their questions.

Those claiming they were all suppose to be undecides are FOS.

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (cF8AT)

210 Allahpundit is the biggest asshoe in America.
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Speaking of assholes . . .
Posted by: Hope Solo's Globetrotting Squeakhole at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (2JVJo)


I think it's high time we lay off Hope Solo and her arsehoe. Granted, those of us who saw it, it's not pretty, but it's an arsehoe! What did you expect??

Most of us wouldn't expose our arsehoes to the world, and I think she deserves credit for bravely exposing hers for all to see.

She's a pioneer, she is.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (hku12)

211 The Biden campaign should be in panic over this.

Simply put, if Biden can't get a lead early voting, it's over.

Posted by: Brisco_County_Sr at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (DBPIP)

212 Posted by: IrishEi at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (sGotD)

why do you have shiners?
were you in a bar brawl?

also, Ulta is fun - you should go
alhough not as fun now when they won't let you use testers

Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry at October 16, 2020 03:17 PM (nUhF0)

213 Unless Hunter's lawyer is on Putin's payroll.

Its Russians all the way down....

Posted by: McCool at October 16, 2020 03:17 PM (0GdRL)

214 French police eventually decide to treat the mutilated corpse next to the train tracks as a "train related" death.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2020 03:17 PM (6FeV1)

215 >>Friend wants me to go to Ulta with her so she can pick out an eye shadow that matches one of my shiners because it "really makes the blue stand out."

>>I have the {{{best friends.}}}


Very thoughtful.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2020 03:17 PM (ZLI7S)

216 You really have to wonder ...
If the Bidens managed to extort about $600 million ..

What did the Obamas get ?

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:17 PM (3aI0K)

217

Social media has been accommodating China.
Google
Facebook

news

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2020 03:17 PM (sfhL4)

218 @62
they're pretty clearly doing the James O'Keefe dribble--let the leaks come a little bit at a time, so when something is denounced as untrue, or a one-off, you get to reveal the next piece.
It keeps the other side paralyzed, because they know what they've done, but they're not sure what cards our side is holding.

Posted by: artemis at October 16, 2020 03:17 PM (AwPyG)

219 The Census will just assume Covid scared people from answering the census and keep their populations as is in NYC and LA.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:17 PM (22mNy)

220 Craig,
It is not rocket science, all states have a voter history file based on what elections, including party primaries, that you have voted upon in the past. Voting in all your parties primaries is a pretty good indication that you are a Dem or Rep. Voting in Dem primaries some years and Rep. in others, swing voter, and so on.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 03:17 PM (OLiBJ)

221 I'll also repost for those that didn't see it (this is probably the 4th time now, sorry).

I am declaring Florida for Trump right now.

I have seen polling internals that show Trump up over his 2016 numbers by 5 on the Atlantic Coast and 10 in Miami-Dade.

Trump will win Florida by a minimum of 400K votes.

It is very unlikely that Trump wins Florida but loses GA, NC, or AZ, so you can start penciling them in on your map.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (5p7BC)

222 212 Posted by: IrishEi at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (sGotD)

why do you have shiners?
were you in a bar brawl?

also, Ulta is fun - you should go
alhough not as fun now when they won't let you use testers
Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry at October 16, 2020 03:17 PM (nUhF0)

She was engaged in mortal combat with an Ent.

Posted by: Someguy at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (Zm+LZ)

223 All of these hundreds of millions of dollars being dumped into Biden and the DNC? China
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (sfhL4)

Wise words my lady. And you would be correct. All of the disinformation and psyops can be traced back to China or the BLM/Antia anti-govt types. China funds one method, we as taxpayers fund the BLM/ANTIFA through food stamps, subsidies, welfare, school loans...

Posted by: Jack Burton, who was born ready at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (1+Jvs)

224 Biden doesn't need a lead in early voting. It's the late voting he intends to dominate. If things are as close as in 2016, we'll have multiple Florida 2000 style court battles.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (H5knJ)

225 I'll leave it to the serious people like TJM to run actual numbers, my back-of-napkin scenario for VA is 1) ultra-super-turnout for Trump, due to usual factors plus incredible war on the society by current Dem govt. 2) less turnout and more Trump votes in black vote in Hampton/Richmond/etc.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (OTzUX)

226 Much as I would love to swing Virginia back, I don't think it'll happen. That state has decided to become California-East.


As Northern Virginia goes, so goes the state.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (SrfWH)

227 197 TJM, it's been a while, but very close direct association with the process by which Senate race resources were allocated showed public polling was 0% of the formula.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (OTzUX)

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I just remember 2014 when Tom Cotton won Arkansas by about 17 points, but the final polls showed a close race.

I refuse to believe that if there had been accurate public polling that Republicans wouldn't have moved some of the Arkansas money to Virginia or New Hampshire where a few more million dollars might have made a difference.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (+rZgP)

228 Here's my take:

There is really only one deciding issue in major elections:

Name recognition.

You might wonder how Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican (sure, a squishy Republican, but a Republican nonetheless) won the governorship of California, which was even back in 2003 a lock-solid blue state, in which Democrats routinely would get 65% of the statewide vote? And the answer is: Fame. His name was universally known to voters -- he had nearly 100% name recognition. The competition was not nearly as famous -- only Arriana Huffington had some name recognition. But nothing compared to Arnold. The rest were essentially unknown to the public.

Policies, record, and party affiliation were irrelevant. People voted for Arnold because they recognized his name. Period.

The same will happen with Trump. Those five letters T-R-U-M-P are the most famous five letters in the world right now.

Forget about politics. Forget about Party.

Name recognition will win it for Trump. Bank on it.

Posted by: zombie at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (HEEq1)

229 219, Nope, Supreme Court shut that down in House of Rep v. Dept of Census case. Actual enumeration is the standard.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (OLiBJ)

230 I think since there is early voting, you should do it at least this year. Antifa has promised to raise their ugly head at polling sites.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (r+sAi)

231 This is too fucking ridiculous. Facebook's arbiter for election censorship previously worked for Joe Biden as his lead Ukraine advisor?

Seriously?

https://tinyurl.com/yxln6dqf

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (fQzH1)

232 Appears she's politically active as a GOPer.
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What's the penalty for that these days?

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:19 PM (OZIO9)

233 If PDT wins the red states (he won last time) w Republican Gov and/or SOS, plus WI and MI (which have strong Republican presence and Appeals go to R majority 7 and 6 Circuits), he has exactly 270 EV. No worrying about unfriendly Courts in NC or elsewhere; it's done.

Posted by: EveR at October 16, 2020 03:19 PM (R0z7P)

234 FL:
Blacks: Biden 83, Trump 13
Hispanics: Biden 57, Trump 39
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If a Hill/Harris (anti-Trump) poll says that, I just don't see how Trump can lose Florida.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 16, 2020 03:19 PM (M/9m0)

235 BREAKING NEWS:
FLASH ...
Boeing 737 Max Judged Safe to Fly by Europe's Aviation Regulator.

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:19 PM (3aI0K)

236 I think a percentage of these yappy libs are going to walk into the booth and vote for Trump in private and then join their friends after the election in publicly wondering how OrangeManBad could have won.

I know more than a few of them who hate Trump but I also know they've been very happy the last 3 years with how their 401ks and stocks have performed since the Obama years.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 16, 2020 03:19 PM (8MXmd)

237 203 I believe one pundit has said that New York AND California could lose 2 - 3 representatives each.

Thoughts?



Posted by: Nevyan at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (a7HML)

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NY was always going to lose at least one seat.

It losing 3 would be fucking hilarious.

And AOC would be a sacrificial lamb there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:19 PM (+rZgP)

238 @216
When Prince Harry was recorded talking to the faux-Greta, he mentions the fact tht there are trillions of dollars sloshing around in slush funds.
Imagine what that money could do if it were put to good use, instead of to support awful people.

Posted by: artemis at October 16, 2020 03:19 PM (AwPyG)

239 Except WI does not have party registration. Do pollsters just make crap up? So it seems.

Posted by: henry at October 16, 2020 03:19 PM (Zl2DS)

240 76 The polling industry has no reputation to kill.

Oh, and btw, Nate Silver has figured the perfect way to grift from the polls but keep his reputation.

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that's actually all he's ever done. He's not a pollster. He made his reputation with access to Obama's internal polling in 08.

Posted by: Iron-Wombat at October 16, 2020 03:20 PM (BRnXm)

241 Ok I'm confused. Isn't (R) candidate John James a
black man? And they've already determined that white supremacists are
the ones who plotted the kidnapping? So a black man was part of a white
supremacist plot?





Posted by: Boots at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (oGBso)


James has gotten a donation from the guy Ryan Kelley who is head of the Patriot group. 2 of the guys who were part of the plot to kidnap Gov. Karen showed up at one event he held. The brain trust at the FBI claims that's where they plotted to kidnap Gov. Karen. If that isn't a direct tie of James to that kidnapping group what is?!?!?!

BTW, the event they showed up at was a Back the Blue. Kelley - "We coordinated the entire rally with Michigan State Police [and]
thanked them publicly for their service. To suggest our rally was a
meeting place to discuss a plot against the [governor] is grossly
inaccurate."

Some how the communist FBI is still all tying it together.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 16, 2020 03:20 PM (Q9/s7)

242 I believe, from what I have seen, that Trump is up pretty high with hispanic voters, as WisRich shows in his numbers. However, I have no insight into the black vote, and it would be sad if, after all this effort, they still vote 87% for Biden.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2020 03:20 PM (Kpl3J)

243 The big news was that there is an email that ask Hunter to get the US government to say good thing about Burisma and get everybody prosecuting Burisma stopped.

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (3aI0K)

"And I'll be damned...they fired him."

- The Big Guy

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2020 03:20 PM (cF8AT)

244
They were NOT all billed as undecideds. It was likely Trump voters, likely Biden voters and undecides.

Guthrie listed their voting preferences before they all asked their questions.

Those claiming they were all suppose to be undecides are FOS.
Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (cF8AT)



The right exposes "undecideds" that ask the questions as partisans and occasional outright party hacks. The left is doxxing a woman that was nodding her head.

Posted by: buzzion at October 16, 2020 03:20 PM (vMCab)

245 12 Why am I not fifty points ahead, you ask.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (63Dwl)

_________


On the one hand, had you picked Hillary as your VP you'd be ahead by 50 points; on the other, you'd be dead and buried already owing to post-traumatic hyoid failure.

What we in the business call a "win-win."

Posted by: ShainS at October 16, 2020 03:20 PM (sKZ8P)

246 Tami, thanks! Exactly what I was talking about.

But how was Nodding Black Woman intro'd??

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 03:20 PM (OTzUX)

247 Did see something I really need to see again tomorrow, near me a house all summer had the proverbial Hate has no bla bla bla, sign but also a Open Pa sign ( think you voted for it, suck it)
but BUT I think there is one for the black woman running for the Republican congressional seat sign as well.

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2020 03:20 PM (OjZpE)

248 229 219, Nope, Supreme Court shut that down in House of Rep v. Dept of Census case. Actual enumeration is the standard.
Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 03:18 PM (OLiBJ)

__

Cute, you think laws matter.

Posted by: Deep State at October 16, 2020 03:20 PM (22mNy)

249 I don't think Barry and mooch were really in on very much of the grift. They're two backwater nobodies installed as a pure token. They get paid, of course, but they're not likely to be "in" on anything. Not like a 50 year senator would be.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (6FeV1)

250 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)

251 I wouldn't start the circle jerk until it's called for President Trump.

Play like you are ten points behind and don't declare victory until you're roasting an opponents liver over a mesquite wood fire.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (BvKrx)

252 Polls are for strippers.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (Zz0t1)

253 187 Much as I would love to swing Virginia back, I don't think it'll happen. That state has decided to become California-East.
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I am not expecting it but there are things I'm seeing that make me wonder if it might happen. No Biden bumper stickers anywhere in NOVA. Remarkably few Biden signs. Incumbent Dem Senator campaigning nasty. Governor Northam and the over reach by the State Legislature. The tacit knowledge of all Govt Workers that the COVID thing is a hoax. The resentment towards Teachers shutting down the school year. And the obvious success they have all experienced with Trump.

Posted by: Puddin Head at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (S00tp)

254 You're Tik Toking me. Stop. Just stop.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (pB6Gt)

255 Found the article on NYC census completion this year --

As of September 22, 2020 NYC had a Census report rate of 60.1%.
The Census completed on October 15.

There is NO WAY NYC made up a near 40% gap in that amount of time.

https://tinyurl.com/y5ehgenf

Posted by: Nevyan at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (a7HML)

256 >>Boeing 737 Max Judged Safe to Fly by Europe's Aviation Regulator.


You first, big guy.

Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (dNJ8A)

257 Oh, right, she was just nodding, right? Didn't actually ask a question, so wasn't "ID'd" as to political preferences?

Didn't watch, so don't know.

But that makes Nichols' already typically loathsome and idiotic stunt even nastier.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (OTzUX)

258 Most of us wouldn't expose our arsehoes to the world, and I think she deserves credit for bravely exposing hers for all to see.

She's a pioneer, she is.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (hku12)
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Well I'm going to need to see this link for meself before weighing in...

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (/ZYFC)

259 Trafalgar predicting Trump win - ~275 electoral votes.

Posted by: lorien1973 at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (SpKeo)

260 People are having grass roots rallies for Trump all over the country and attracting hundreds and thousands.

Biden has 14 golf carts across 48 states.

These polls are such utter shit, it's embarrassing.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (Zz0t1)

261 I think the idea of multiple court battles to decide the election is this year's equivalent of the elusive 270-270 tie.

Plausible only because the other side would love nothing more, but I think everyone with a brain will know that Trump won on election night, and the other side will be forced to admit so by November 11th at the latest.

Not great, but not the scenario the Dems are wet dreaming for. The victory will be too big.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (OZIO9)

262 oh this morning local nooz saud FBI raided the HQ of the IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers) in a Philly burb

no idea why

Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (nUhF0)

263 *waves at vmom*

I saw you asking if I was feeling better last thread and then it got willowed.

I am, thanks for asking. First multi day migraine in ages and my left eye is still a bit wonky but I'm doing much better.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (GbPPJ)

264 I early voted in 2016, had to wait in line to do it. A legally blind woman came in, and was allowed to go to the front of the line to vote. She loudly declared, "I just wanna vote for Hillary!"

She was taken to a voting machine, where she again shouted that she wanted to vote for Hillary. The poll worker clicked on Hillary's name, asked her who else she wanted to vote for, and she said, "Nobody! I'm done!"

And she proceeded to be walked away.

Always vote for the downballot races, a lot of those who vote for the top name couldn't care less about the rest of the races.

Posted by: Boots at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (oGBso)

265 OT but if Trump saved the planet from aliens Jonah G would say "Listen, I don't have a problem with what he did, but I do have some questions about the way he did it."

Posted by: Bob Eubanx at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (SKkKl)

266 Tami see the Powerline article about splitting the winnings, and the " Big Guy" getting %10

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (OjZpE)

267 Sorry 269-269

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (OZIO9)

268 248 ACB baby, ACB.
And McConnell/Trump have flipped most circuits now and are close in the 9th.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (OLiBJ)

269 The federal govt's fiscal year ended Sept 30th, and the MTS for the last month is out, which gives final FY2020 numbers.

The deficit for FY2020 is a staggering $3.1T.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (rCwaK)

270 205 Trump primed people in Debate #1 to see things when they observe Biden.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (OZIO9)


He rambles on so

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (fNjs9)

271 >>If a Hill/Harris (anti-Trump) poll says that, I just don't see how Trump can lose Florida.

He won't.

Republicans have crushed Democrats with new voter registrations in a number of swing states most notably Florida. Republicans have cut the Democrats voter total lead to the lowest amount in decades.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2020 03:23 PM (ZLI7S)

272

Bannon says that this is resonating with the American people. I don't see this yet.

There is so much more to come out.

Biden won't be able to handle what is coming out psychologically, according to Bannon.

Again, I hope he's right. I don't see it.

#twoweeks

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2020 03:23 PM (sfhL4)

273 "Savannah" couldn't get a gig pole dancing with that mouth, so she turned to the next best thing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 16, 2020 03:23 PM (3H9h1)

274 I think the idea of multiple court battles to decide the election is this year's equivalent of the elusive 270-270 tie.

___

269 tie. And I think that is the only way 2020 ends.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:23 PM (22mNy)

275 IBEW Local 98 in Philly

Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry at October 16, 2020 03:23 PM (nUhF0)

276 261, Please do math correctly--it would be 269-269=538==435 House, 100 Senate, +3 EV to DC=538.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 03:23 PM (OLiBJ)

277 So Epstein....who did not kill himself...paid TAXES on the grift from Black.

Waiting for a 60 Minute report on Epstein's tax filings...who did not kill himself.

But it would be nice if 60 Minutes killed itself.

Posted by: torabora at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (PVUHt)

278 Boeing 737 Max Judged Safe to Fly by Europe's Aviation Regulator.


You first, big guy.
Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (dNJ8A)


I know a pilot for Southwest that's flown the Max hundreds of hours without issue. He knows what the 2 pilots did wrong and it was 100% user error. NOT the plane.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (Zz0t1)

279 MSNBC's Deutsch: 'Insecure' Trump Afraid of Seeming 'Impotent'

more likely ...

MSNBC's Insecure Deutsch: Afraid of Seeming 'Impotent'

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (3aI0K)

280 271 >>If a Hill/Harris (anti-Trump) poll says that, I just don't see how Trump can lose Florida.

He won't.

Republicans have crushed Democrats with new voter registrations in a number of swing states most notably Florida. Republicans have cut the Democrats voter total lead to the lowest amount in decades.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2020 03:23 PM (ZLI7S)

=========

Because Trump is the least popular president in American history?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (+rZgP)

281 pop got 50%

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (fNjs9)

282 Most of us wouldn't expose our arsehoes to the world, and I think she deserves credit for bravely exposing hers for all to see.

She's a pioneer, she is.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (hku12)
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Well I'm going to need to see this link for meself before weighing in...
Posted by: jhawk90 at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (/ZYFC)


Just turn your safe search off, type in her name and some variation on a word that means nekkid or backside or nekkid backside.

The world will open up for you. Oh yes it will.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (hku12)

283 206


I helped little black ladies in 2012 at the polls who clicked
Obama's name and then just walked away without even finishing up the
ballot.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it
________
I certainly understand where they were coming from and can't really fault them at all.
That being said, what little old lady is going to do the same for Sundown Joe?

Posted by: sharksauce at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (DFZnL)

284 262 oh this morning local nooz saud FBI raided the HQ of the IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers) in a Philly burb

no idea why
Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry



For old times sake, I hope it was Mafia related.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (SrfWH)

285 oh this morning local nooz saud FBI raided the HQ of the IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers) in a Philly burb

no idea why
Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry

They wanna borrow a light bulb,

Posted by: JT at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (arJlL)

286 105- Except for that ditz Ann Althouse.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM

She knows.

Posted by: Moonbeam at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (qe5CM)

287 Voter fraud is the single only deciding factor in this election.

Posted by: Fuckball Z at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (CNTlw)

288 262 oh this morning local nooz saud FBI raided the HQ of the IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers) in a Philly burb

no idea why

They were gonna back Trump ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (Zmnko)

289 Ask yourself how a black woman ended up on camera nodding her head along with Trump in prime time on NBC of all places.

How bad did they screw it up? Did they assume because she was black that she'd be "perfect" to go on camera?

Was God's hand involved?

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (OZIO9)

290 >>I know a pilot for Southwest that's flown the Max hundreds of hours without issue. He knows what the 2 pilots did wrong and it was 100% user error. NOT the plane.


On the best of days I think flying is insane.

Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (dNJ8A)

291 "This time they have realized that convincing people to vote third party
could potentially peel away more Biden voters than Trump voters."

Good point as well.

Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (RKLPC)

292 I have never seen the level of enthusiasm for a candidate that I see for Trump. Not even for the chocolate messiah. In Miami Dade county. And it isn't just the Cubans. There was nothing like this in 2016.

So I seriously doubt that 39% number.

Posted by: Floridachick at October 16, 2020 03:25 PM (fIkro)

293 283 206


I helped little black ladies in 2012 at the polls who clicked
Obama's name and then just walked away without even finishing up the
ballot.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it
________
I certainly understand where they were coming from and can't really fault them at all.
That being said, what little old lady is going to do the same for Sundown Joe?

Posted by: sharksauce at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (DFZnL)

========

I doubt she voted in 2016.

Hence Kamala on the ticket. They need a black face to get those little old black ladies back.

I doubt it will work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:25 PM (+rZgP)

294 Most of us wouldn't expose our arsehoes to the world, and I think she deserves credit for bravely exposing hers for all to see.

She's a pioneer, she is.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (hku12)
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Well I'm going to need to see this link for meself before weighing in...
======

You really don't. Think "miniature version of the Alien queen ovipositor" if you really want to know what it looked like.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2020 03:25 PM (vg8iE)

295 107 Keep having that fear that those high polls were to legitimize all the phony ballots later
Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM

Me too.

Posted by: Moonbeam at October 16, 2020 03:25 PM (qe5CM)

296 289 Ask yourself how a black woman ended up on camera nodding her head along with Trump in prime time on NBC of all places.

How bad did they screw it up? Did they assume because she was black that she'd be "perfect" to go on camera?

Was God's hand involved?
Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (OZIO9)

Black, female, young. What are the odds?

Posted by: Someguy at October 16, 2020 03:25 PM (Zm+LZ)

297 9 The only good poll is a sausage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 16, 2020 02:55 PM (+y/Ru)

It could. E a wurst.

Posted by: CHOAM at October 16, 2020 03:25 PM (qyH+l)

298 #273 *scribbles furiously on blank US Senate notepad*

Posted by: torabora at October 16, 2020 03:25 PM (PVUHt)

299 Am I the only one who hates releasing early vote totals? Seems to me its a gauge on how many possible ballots I need to stuff in the truck for future use...

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - Not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at October 16, 2020 03:25 PM (4LyY6)

300 261, Please do math correctly--it would be 269-269=538==435 House, 100 Senate, +3 EV to DC=538.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 03:23 PM (OLiBJ)

Oh fuck off I corrected myself within five seconds of posting.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:26 PM (OZIO9)

301 Prayer Request

I've mentioned this dear woman before. She is in my congregation. Her name is Arlene. She had a knee replacement and had all kinds of problems since then. Now she can't urinate and she has a fever which might be from a previous UTI that they didn't seem to have the correct meds for before. Her blood pressure has been dropping. Her daughter worries about the fever because of possible COVID. Anyway, if you could pray for her healing it would be much appreciated. We all love her so much. Thanks so much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2020 03:26 PM (WkPC9)

302 Black, female, young. What are the odds?
Posted by: Someguy


She's not even young -- she's 56 years old. She's just a fabulous-lokking 56-year-old.

Posted by: zombie at October 16, 2020 03:26 PM (HEEq1)

303 It was obvious to me that the nodding woman was a plant. I am only surprised Guthrie didn't move her as soon as they realized what she was doing.
Heh.

Posted by: artemis at October 16, 2020 03:26 PM (AwPyG)

304 I am, thanks for asking. First multi day migraine in ages and my left eye is still a bit wonky but I'm doing much better.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (GbPPJ)

I'm glad you feel better!

migraines suck
been having them more frequently lately
I blame 2020

went to look at the previous thread - never heard of a portable DW before

Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry at October 16, 2020 03:26 PM (nUhF0)

305 I would take this with a big grain of salt. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio do not register by party in my understanding, so there is no such thing as a registered republican or democrat from those states.
=====

Ohio registers by party.
Posted by: bicentennialguy
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Incorrect regarding MI and WI. There is an online service that will tell you within a few 10ths of a percentage the party affiliation of early votes.

It is easily done through voting history of precincts and the number of votes returned.

This is real.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:26 PM (5p7BC)

306 Putin doesn't care that:

1. Obama dismantled the Polish nuclear shield.
2. Obama and Hillary sold a Russian company 20% of American uranium.
3. Joe Biden was tasked with getting him in the WTO (a 19-year campaign of Putin's)
4. Obama and Hillary reduced the export restrictions on technology shared with the Russia.

Putin's job is foiling the Democratic Party in America. He seems to be doing nothing else these days, but foiling the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Axeman at October 16, 2020 03:26 PM (Eicbe)

307 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2020 03:26 PM (WkPC9)

Prayers up

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2020 03:26 PM (Zmnko)

308 But it would be nice if 60 Minutes killed itself.
Posted by: torabora a

Hey 60 minutes, Tik Tok.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 16, 2020 03:26 PM (pB6Gt)

309 Me thinks they are grossly underestimating Hispanic support for Trump. My survey of one is several of my Spanish speaking neighbors who are hard working SOB's are voting for Trump. They HATE the whole socialism push. Like everyone else around here they also hate Cuomo. That doesn't help Democrats. They say they'll never vote for Democrats again. We'll see.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2020 03:27 PM (BvKrx)

310 But how was Nodding Black Woman intro'd??

Posted by: rhomboid at October 16, 2020 03:20 PM (OTzUX)

I didn't see her ask a question. (She may of an I missed it flipping back and forth.) The usual suspects were pissed because she...nodded her head yes when Trump was talking.

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2020 03:27 PM (cF8AT)

311 The Trump campaign PAID HER TO APPROVE OF TRUMP.

ELEVENTY

Posted by: Presstitutes at October 16, 2020 03:27 PM (PVUHt)

312 209, for giggles, refer Nichols to the administration for the Navy War College in Rhode Island for unethical behavior and being publicly identified as a partisan which might violate the Hatch Act.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 03:27 PM (OLiBJ)

313 Nothing an old black lady loves as much as a mixed race harlot using her "blackness" and her harlotry as a career ladder.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2020 03:27 PM (6FeV1)

314 The world will open up for you. Oh yes it will.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (hku12)


WAIT, Wait, - What's her name?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2020 03:27 PM (fNjs9)

315 You bet - prayers for Arlene.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2020 03:28 PM (Rvt88)

316 >>> matches one of my shiners

======

What's the other girl look like?

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 16, 2020 03:28 PM (umQHI)

317 Those blacks are a bunch of Uncle Tom's.

Posted by: Sleepy Joe at October 16, 2020 03:28 PM (PVUHt)

318 Texas House Seats - Certain to gain 2, might gain 3.

Florida House Seats - certain to gain 1, might gain 2.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2020 03:28 PM (Kpl3J)

319 Most of us wouldn't expose our arsehoes to the world, and I think she deserves credit for bravely exposing hers for all to see.

She's a pioneer, she is.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:16 PM (hku12)
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Well I'm going to need to see this link for meself before weighing in...
======

You really don't. Think "miniature version of the Alien queen ovipositor" if you really want to know what it looked like.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at October 16, 2020 03:25 PM (vg8iE)


Come on, man. It ain't that bad.

Think un-oiled catcher's mitt.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:28 PM (hku12)

320 266 Tami see the Powerline article about splitting the winnings, and the " Big Guy" getting %10

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (OjZpE)

I saw info on that before. Do they have new info on it?

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2020 03:28 PM (cF8AT)

321 prayers up, Fenelon

Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry at October 16, 2020 03:28 PM (nUhF0)

322 Lid

Posted by: Sleepy Joe at October 16, 2020 03:28 PM (PVUHt)

323 Here's what's fun:
Biden can't win without NV and NM.
And they both end early voting by Sunday, 11/1
So, I bet you see Biden in both of those states on that Sunday

In 2012, Obama got 123k primary votes in NM
In 2020, Trump got 144k primary votes in NM
Trump lost NM by 74k

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 16, 2020 03:28 PM (aO8Gd)

324 318 Texas House Seats - Certain to gain 2, might gain 3.

Florida House Seats - certain to gain 1, might gain 2.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2020 03:28 PM (Kpl3J)

===========

New York:

7 possible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:29 PM (+rZgP)

325 All eyes should be on Michigan to determine the REAL mood of the country regarding COVID, and I would guess Minnesota/Wisconsin to determine the real mood of the country with BLM.

If all go red, look out. 2021 gonna be

Lit

As

Boinks

Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:29 PM (8YFRI)

326 @288
Maybe a bunch of fishy ballots there? Its the union, I wouldn't be surprised.

Posted by: artemis at October 16, 2020 03:29 PM (AwPyG)

327 287 Voter fraud is the single only deciding factor in this election.
Posted by: Fuckball Z at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (CNTlw)

This.

All this poll navel gazing (here and elsewhere) assumes this is a Vote In Person, On November 3rd election.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at October 16, 2020 03:29 PM (Oka5v)

328 Putin's job is foiling the Democratic Party in America. He seems to be doing nothing else these days, but foiling the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Axeman at October 16, 2020 03:26 PM (Eicbe)

You left out Skolkova

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2020 03:29 PM (6FeV1)

329 How bad did they screw it up? Did they assume because she was black that she'd be "perfect" to go on camera?

Was God's hand involved?

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (OZIO9)


She's a lawyer, she knew how to respond in order to get the seat. Being attractive helped.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2020 03:29 PM (fNjs9)

330 >>> Come on, man. It ain't that bad.

Think un-oiled catcher's mitt.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:28 PM (hku12)

======

Oh, I think it's been oiled.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 16, 2020 03:29 PM (umQHI)

331 I'd hit it!

Posted by: torabora at October 16, 2020 03:29 PM (PVUHt)

332

Dan Bongino mentioned on his show today that he has Hodgkin lymphoma but it's treatable. Prayers for Dan's health.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 16, 2020 03:30 PM (Q9/s7)

333

Lindsey Vohn also bared the brown eye.

These were hacked cell phone pics. They were meant for Tiger Woods, IIRC.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 16, 2020 03:30 PM (rCwaK)

334 The cookie sales say Trump in a landslide.
All you pollsters ain't doing it right.

Posted by: Lochel's Bakery Hatboro PA at October 16, 2020 03:06 PM (LilNs)

Been seeing those, but noticed you can buy them online at least one of the cookie poll bakeries (Buskin in Ohio)... so now campaigns can taint the results by making big orders.

Posted by: Serious Cat at October 16, 2020 03:30 PM (700n7)

335 "04 I am, thanks for asking. First multi day migraine in ages and my left eye is still a bit wonky but I'm doing much better.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM (GbPPJ) "

Yes, but how are your boobs feeling? Yes, That's deliberate phrasing.

AKA I took Fiorinal for years. Long story for another day.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2020 03:30 PM (BvKrx)

336 325 All eyes should be on Michigan to determine the REAL mood of the country regarding COVID, and I would guess Minnesota/Wisconsin to determine the real mood of the country with BLM.

If all go red, look out. 2021 gonna be

Lit

As

Boinks
Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:29 PM (8YFRI)

=========

The Left is going to eat itself if they lose everything this year.

The party split will start in New York.

Tom Steyer will financially take over the Worker Families Party, recruit AOC and de Blassio and the rest of the squad, and 3rd Party challenges will break out from the left against a bunch of "moderate" Democrats.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:30 PM (+rZgP)

337 I'd wager Althouse will vote for Trump. She's just not willing to admit it to herself. The "fine people" lie really pissed her off, and I suspect that she'll eventually decide that, even if she doesn't like Trump, the Dems are simply too irresponsibly crazy to be trusted with power.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (sTnpX)

338 Trump is pushing to win NY.

How many electoral votes does NY have?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (fNjs9)

339 Black, female, young. What are the odds?

***********************

Black, female, young and sexy time nom nom nom.



I denounce myself.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (8YFRI)

340 141 Breaking: Baraka getting out of his rotting, cigarette stanked, club chair to go campaign for Sleazy Joe. What city is Baraka going to?

Philla. Think about that for a hot minute.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (sUppP)

The Dems stole the voting machine codes in Philla! They can post an infinite vote there!

Thanks to, um, Barky's shitspiel, I mean.

Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (BRkq2)

341 Both could be true... i.e. - a lot of those registered republicans are also Biden voters?

No I don't think that is the case whatsoever in any of the 11 dimensions, but I bet it's a spin some never trumper will put on it

Posted by: cmotvrwc at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (1d03D)

342 Re VIRGINIA --- We need to get the Trump voters out in force. There are 3 House districts that flipped from R to D there in 2018. We need to flip them back.

If enthusiasm for Trump holds up in VA, it may not be enough to put the state in his column. But it will matter for the House races .... bigly.

(Note that Trump's one appearance in VA was in the 2nd district, which is R+3 but was lost to a Dem in 2018.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (M/9m0)

343 The world will open up for you. Oh yes it will.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (hku12)


WAIT, Wait, - What's her name?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2020 03:27 PM (fNjs9)


Tub girl.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (hku12)

344 248 ACB baby, ACB.
And McConnell/Trump have flipped most circuits now and are close in the 9th.
Posted by: whig at October 1

It's only fair.

Posted by: runner at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (ReE5g)

345 AtC,
science has shown that a "brain freeze" can alleviate migraine headache symptoms.

seriously. gulp down a slurpee as fast as you can kind of brain freeze.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (W2Pud)

346 @304
Ask your doctors about Imitrex. Miracle migraine medicine.

Posted by: artemis at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (AwPyG)

347 The likely voting dead are nearly 100% in favor of Biden.

That's torabora's poll. I asked them.

Posted by: torabora at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (PVUHt)

348 I am, thanks for asking. First multi day migraine in ages and my left eye is still a bit wonky but I'm doing much better.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at October 16, 2020 03:22 PM


My wife gets them as well. Have you tried a magnesium supplement? Seems to reduce the frequency and severity for her, as well as help her sleep better.

Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (RKLPC)

349 My wife is not sure if we should do Thanksgiving this year with her inlaws. Not because the midget Dr.'s advice but because the election. It may still be too raw only 3 weeks after the election.

What a sad state of affairs we are living in.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (22mNy)


Your wife is better than me. I would rub a Trump victory in their faces. "All that screaming, all that violence, all those riots, all that impeachment, all that phony Kung Flu and you STILL LOST! Get fucked for the next four years!

And get the fuck out of my house, too!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (2JVJo)

350 can taint the results by making big orders.
Posted by: Serious Cat

This comment in a thread full of Hope Solo ass pic discussion.

What are the odds?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (Rvt88)

351 344 248 ACB baby, ACB.
And McConnell/Trump have flipped most circuits now and are close in the 9th.
Posted by: whig at October 1

It's only fair.
Posted by: runner at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (ReE5g)

==========

Two more years of filling court seats (including potentially 2 SCOTUS seats) and the Left is out of power for a while.

A lot of their nonsense will come to an end. A lot of it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (+rZgP)

352 Lindsey Vohn also bared the brown eye.

These were hacked cell phone pics. They were meant for Tiger Woods, IIRC.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 16, 2020 03:30 PM (rCwaK)

Eye of the tiger?

Posted by: LOL at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (+jNil)

353 The party split will start in New York.

*********************

Would be nice to see Upstate NY politics actually rule the state again.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (8YFRI)

354 I saw Fabulous Lokking open for Absolutely Giddy at Claremont High School in 2015.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 16, 2020 03:33 PM (Zz0t1)

355 269 tie. And I think that is the only way 2020 ends.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:23 PM (22mNy)

That would be fitting for this year.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at October 16, 2020 03:33 PM (cnTJD)

356 The concern with all this mail-in early balloting thing was never that it would favor Joe, but that it made fraud easier

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:33 PM (KZzsI)

357 Stevie Nicks claims if she hadn't had an abortion, the world would have been deprived of Fleetwood Mac's greatness
She seems to think it's an even trade-off



this simple statement shows how much they think of themselves

and how little they think of human life

I would not care, or miss Fleetwood Mac or any singer or band or athlete or actor. Not one. They hold no value to me. They mean nothing to me.

If I like their music I will listen, but if they don't exist, I don't listen.

It's hard to wrap my head around the ego. Who cares if Fleetwood Mac was around or not?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (sfhL4)

358 These were hacked cell phone pics. They were meant for Tiger Woods, IIRC.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear

Eye of the tiger?
Posted by: LOL

She kept an eye out for him.

There's a 'hole in one' joke in here too for the adventurous.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (Rvt88)

359 How many rallies did Trump have today? I figured by the time I got up at 6AM this morning Trump already did 4.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (8YFRI)

360 just when the left is learning that Rbg has been replaced by ACB

the MSM is going to start the process of telling them that Sloppy Joe is gonna lose

Posted by: REDACTED at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (R3uW8)

361 Ho Lee Fuk

Link below is a Chinese video cut from a livestream apparently from 9/24/20, posted to YouTube 9/30/20 in which the host describes the Hunter Biden materials that were released just two days ago. In other words, this video was posted two weeks before the NY Post article.

The story is that some of the Chinese power families are in fear that Xi is going to confiscate their money and so they released these hard drives (plural) in order to stop him.

1st drive: Hunter Biden's deals with Ukraine, China, Kazakhstan and sex tapes, some with Chinese females

2nd drive: details of Xi's overseas wealth and plans

3rd drive: details of CCP bioweapons (!)

He claims that initially a copy went to DOJ and Pelosi as warnings (we have your dirt, you'd better win) but that a departure separate whistle-blower got a copy to Trump.

Could be nonsense but this video went out two weeks ago. I suppose it's possible that this guy could have gotten the info about the Biden stuff from a back channel a couple of weeks ago and is making up the rest.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8bXgULtz6cI

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (mSo5T)

362 Analpundit is pushing some piece saying there is a "Huge!" new surge of Corona in the midwest, and that everyone in Wisconsin and Michigan will blame trump and that's why Biden will win easy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (Kpl3J)

363 You schlubs don't get it yet do ya? We don't even want to try to start forging the Mail In Fraud until AFTER Trump has won so we know how many votes we have to forge and in what precincts !!! What did you think we were gonna do? Just guesstimate how many votes it was going to take to beat Trump across the board and end up disclosing our fraud in the process? Science Bitches!!! Our win is all in the LATE mail in votes!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (k+h+d)

364 "Unwilling to challenge Communist China for its role in the global pandemic outbreak, Europe is looking for scapegoats closer to home.. French police have raided the homes of senior government and health officials as part of an investigation into their handling of the coronavirus pandemic"

What did they expect to find? Cauldrons of bat soup?
Truly, truly, a mental disorder.

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (3aI0K)

365 Nothing an old black lady loves as much as a mixed race harlot using her "blackness" and her harlotry as a career ladder.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2020 03:27 PM (6FeV1)
--------------------------

And using her "talents" to break up the marriage of the black man(married to a black woman at the time) who gave her that start in politics.

And then herself marrying a white man. NTTAWWT. But black women are the least likely to marry outside of their race. Asian women are the most likely to marry outside of their race.

Posted by: Boots at October 16, 2020 03:35 PM (oGBso)

366 360 just when the left is learning that Rbg has been replaced by ACB

the MSM is going to start the process of telling them that Sloppy Joe is gonna lose
Posted by: REDACTED at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (R3uW

=========

That's going to do wonders for their election day turnout.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:35 PM (+rZgP)

367 OT:Woot! Successfully cloned my system!

/OT

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 16, 2020 03:35 PM (WEBkv)

368 We sent in our absentee ballots last Friday. But since we are South Dakota residents it just adds to his popular vote total. South Dakota belongs to Trump.

Also, prayers for Arlene are on their way. May He keep her close.

Posted by: Megthered at October 16, 2020 03:35 PM (SM/op)

369 283 sharksauce

The only Biden bumper sticker I've seen in my FL County was on ancient little black lady's car. Right next to the Hillary sticker. I think they consider him a friend of Civil Rights for some delusional reason.

Posted by: EveR at October 16, 2020 03:35 PM (R0z7P)

370 See, this is the small intestine and this is the gargantuan intestine. Go ahead, Tik Tok it.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 16, 2020 03:35 PM (pB6Gt)

371 Would be nice to see Upstate NY politics actually rule the state again.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (8YFRI)
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Ditto from Michigan. Used to be the non-Detroit areas in Michigan could counter-balance the DMA.

Posted by: Axeman at October 16, 2020 03:35 PM (Eicbe)

372 So, how exactly would one challenge the BS ruling that illegals count for representation?

...and would THAT be enough to trigger the Left Coast to secede?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (YzoMG)

373 >>Lindsey Vohn also bared the brown eye.


You know the thing about a Lindsey Vohn?

She's got a lifeless eye.
A Brown Eye.
Like a Whale's Eye.

When she comes at ya, she doesn't even seem to be livin' until she winks at ya and that brown eye gapes open ...

ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'.

The sheets turn stained and red and despite all the poundin and the hollerin', they all come in and they rip it to pieces.

Posted by: Quint at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (rQHp3)

374 Meh, let the FNM lie to the hysterics. If they believe they'll win, and then believe their loss was somehow due to Rs cheating, and any moment now evidence will come out (like the idiots who believed Barky would be proved to be Kenyan and magically removed from office) they'll be less whiny and destructive.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (Aashi)

375 At the sidebar:
Study: Apathy may be an early sign of dementia
Reached for comment, Joe Biden said "meh"


***
Personally I am neither for nor against apathy.


FINALLY!!!
I heard that 30 years ago and I finally get to repeat it.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (axyOa)

376 OT:Woot! Successfully cloned my system!

/OT
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 16, 2020 03:35 PM (WEBkv)

Does Blake 2 get his own hash, or are we just gonna have to figure it out on our own?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (6FeV1)

377 338 Trump is pushing to win NY....

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (fNjs9)

That would be one of the greatest days in the history of the country!

Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (BRkq2)

378 A 269 tie is not that far fetched. Biden wins PA, MI, WI, Trump wins everything else from 2016 and MN and...boom!

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (22mNy)

379 362 Analpundit is pushing some piece saying there is a "Huge!" new surge of Corona in the midwest, and that everyone in Wisconsin and Michigan will blame trump and that's why Biden will win easy.

In Wi they did open a gym up as a new treatment center.. I find it hard to believe people are getting that sick... Looks like NY panic all over again

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (Zmnko)

380 Thanks, folks, for the prayers for my congregation member.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (WkPC9)

381 Who kidnaps a Governor ? Really
Why not hijack a bus while you're at it.

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (3aI0K)

382 Fenelon,

Prayers up and will continue to pray for Arlene!

Posted by: Floridachick at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (fIkro)

383 All this poll navel gazing (here and elsewhere) assumes this is a Vote In Person, On November 3rd election.
Posted by: Dark Helmet
-----------
Vote in person is available in 45 states this year.

60% of GOP voters plan to vote on Nov 3rd.

It isn't an assumption, it is a certainty.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:37 PM (5p7BC)

384 Analpundit is pushing some piece saying there is a "Huge!" new surge of Corona in the midwest, and that everyone in Wisconsin and Michigan will blame trump and that's why Biden will win easy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (Kpl3J)


Yes. This is the current narrative pushed by the media.

SURGE!!!! HOSPITALS WILL BE OVERRUN!!!!

Even though the hospitals weren't overrun in the FIRST outbreak, the only reason ER's are seeing an increase is because you've CREATED A PANIC for this fucking thing over the last 9 MONTHS.

Assholes. I hate the media.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 16, 2020 03:37 PM (Zz0t1)

385 375 At the sidebar:
Study: Apathy may be an early sign of dementia
Reached for comment, Joe Biden said "meh"


***
Personally I am neither for nor against apathy.


FINALLY!!!
I heard that 30 years ago and I finally get to repeat it.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (axyOa)

What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?

I don't know and I don't care.

Posted by: josephistan at October 16, 2020 03:37 PM (Izzlo)

386 Your wife is better than me. I would rub a Trump victory in their faces. "All that screaming, all that violence, all those riots, all that impeachment, all that phony Kung Flu and you STILL LOST! Get fucked for the next four years!

And get the fuck out of my house, too!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (2JVJo)

--------

I have no problem with this. Actually, I'm taking notes.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 16, 2020 03:37 PM (jUVms)

387 My wife gets them as well. Have you tried a magnesium supplement? Seems to reduce the frequency and severity for her, as well as help her sleep better.
Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM


For optimal absorption, try to avoid intaking with calcium (i.e. milk, multivitamins, spinach, etc.).

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 16, 2020 03:37 PM (DMUuz)

388 Personally I am neither for nor against apathy.

FINALLY!!!
I heard that 30 years ago and I finally get to repeat it.
Posted by: Diogenes



When asked about ignorance and apathy, I replied - "I don't know, and I don't care!"

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2020 03:37 PM (Rvt88)

389
My hope: I am laughing like a hyena the day after the election and saying why did I ever worry.

My fear: I am a nutty harpy looking at the sky screaming why why why?

Worst case scenario: 269 EV votes each and the House gets to decide.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2020 03:37 PM (r+sAi)

390 Why couldn't the Fleetwood Mac woman have given up the baby for adoption, or keep it and still manage to have a music career?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (WkPC9)

391 Analpundit is pushing some piece saying there is a
"Huge!" new surge of Corona in the midwest, and that everyone in
Wisconsin and Michigan will blame trump and that's why Biden will win
easy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (Kpl3J)


The Flu Manchu hysteria machine will be in full force until the election. Trump is killing everyone with Flu Manchu!!!1!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (Q9/s7)

392 pop got 50%

--

That's Corn Pop, not Joe Biden you silly.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (O+I8R)

393 So far, the Hudson Valley in NY seems to be going big for Trump.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (BvKrx)

394 I've been hearing about a fresh "surge" of WuFlu since July.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (22mNy)

395 >>A 269 tie is not that far fetched. Biden wins PA, MI, WI, Trump wins everything else from 2016 and MN and...boom!

Not happening. Trump is going to win.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (ZLI7S)

396 351---Two more years of filling court seats (including potentially 2 SCOTUS seats) and the Left is out of power for a while.

A lot of their nonsense will come to an end. A lot of it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (+rZgP)
-----------------------------------
Um, no.
The own the culture and all major institutions.

But it will slow them down.
And, more important (to me), it will make them cry.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (M/9m0)

397 Census workers were all over my neighborhood through out September. Wife told them we did it online and to buzz off. I have no idea if she did or not but NY can fuch off.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (4vNgL)

398 254 You're Tik Toking me. Stop. Just stop.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (pB6Gt)

___________

Take back Jeffrey Epstein
Take back Pantifa Ho
Take back Beijing Biden
Give 'em all some place to go
You're Til Tokin' me, you're Tik Tokin' me
Quit Tik Tokin' me ...

Posted by: ShainS at October 16, 2020 03:39 PM (sKZ8P)

399 SURGE!!!! HOSPITALS WILL BE OVERRUN!!!! BY ANTIFA!!!!

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:39 PM (3aI0K)

400 I've heard that the House of Burgess's wild ride over the past couple of years has ignited some blowback. So, not impossible.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:11 PM (+rZgP)

======

I asked the GOP canvasser who came round here last weekend about that. She shook her head and said, "Well, if what's happened in Richmond doesn't cause blowback, I dunno what will."

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 16, 2020 03:39 PM (dfRN6)

401 Analpundit is pushing some piece saying there is a "Huge!" new surge of Corona in the midwest, and that everyone in Wisconsin and Michigan will blame trump and that's why Biden will win easy.
Posted by: Tom Servo
---------
Desperation. He is coming to realize that he is on the losing side again.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:39 PM (5p7BC)

402 I get migraine-like headaches (weakness, pain in joints, upset stomach that sometimes rarely leads to vomiting, overall miserable sickness) and just regular Excedrine Migraine works wonders.

I've never had a hangover, but the way people describe them, thats how it feels. Except eating, drinking, or being active doesn't help. Usually I can't eat anything at all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:39 PM (KZzsI)

403 "For optimal absorption, try to avoid intaking with calcium (i.e. milk, multivitamins, spinach, etc.)"

Good tip, thanks much.

Posted by: Greyman27 at October 16, 2020 03:39 PM (RKLPC)

404 I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and predict the vast majority of needed Democratic ballots will be cast after Election Day.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 16, 2020 03:39 PM (DMUuz)

405 >>> Personally I am neither for nor against apathy.


FINALLY!!!
I heard that 30 years ago and I finally get to repeat it.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (axyOa)

======

This comment? Eh, I could take or leave it.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 16, 2020 03:39 PM (umQHI)

406 396 351---Two more years of filling court seats (including potentially 2 SCOTUS seats) and the Left is out of power for a while.

A lot of their nonsense will come to an end. A lot of it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (+rZgP)
-----------------------------------
Um, no.
The own the culture and all major institutions.

But it will slow them down.
And, more important (to me), it will make them cry.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (M/9m0)

==========

They've used the courts to push through almost every major policy change for about 50 years.

Suddenly things will start rolling back. A lot of policy work they've put into place through the courts that gives them legs up are going to go away.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:40 PM (+rZgP)

407 It would be cool if conservatives as a group didn't answer the census if they lived in blue states. But we're too law abiding and shit to do that kind of stuff.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:40 PM (22mNy)

408 I'm telling you, please look into the Imitrex angle (its a generic, too.)
I had killer migraines several time a month. Now, I take a 25mg pill and it is gone in 10 minutes.
It's amazing.

Posted by: artemis at October 16, 2020 03:40 PM (AwPyG)

409 The own the culture and all major institutions.

But it will slow them down.


Yeah the courts will create problems with some of their plans, but they have shifted to the private sector to implement their goals and are bypassing government entirely wherever possible.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:40 PM (KZzsI)

410 josephistan, the Hordemind is real.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2020 03:40 PM (Rvt88)

411 I dreamed all year the Left would fool themselves into thinking "they got this one".

But I never thought it would actually happen. Once bitten, twice shy and all. But they do have this tendency to not learn. Maybe it extends to self-harm as well as hurting others.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:41 PM (OZIO9)

412 Political pundits often refer to the nebulous thing called the "shy Republican voter", and indeed, the there are a number of them. But the shyest of the "shy" voters are the Democrats who will pull the lever for President Trump, and that number, I suspect, is a helluva lot bigger than the polling response to date.

Posted by: mrp at October 16, 2020 03:41 PM (Pqytn)

413 Venezuelan Miracle Covid-19 Cure: "Ozone Rectal Therapy"

Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:41 PM (3aI0K)

414 Analpundit is pushing some piece saying there is a "Huge!" new surge of Corona in the midwest, and that everyone in Wisconsin and Michigan will blame trump and that's why Biden will win easy.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (Kpl3J)


I want Trump to win bigly and drive that clown to suicide.

He's dumber than Ollie Willis. And when you consider Willis would have a hard time matching wits with an Etch-A-Sketch, you can see his problem.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2020 03:41 PM (2JVJo)

415 I'd love a 269 tie. I *THINK* Trump would win in the house.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:41 PM (22mNy)

416 @realchrisrufo

I've obtained shocking new whistleblower documents. Story drops Monday in the New York Post.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2020 03:41 PM (ZLI7S)

417 I guarantee you that Trump has way more than 13% of the black vote. I would be surprised if it is not double that.

Posted by: Thatch at October 16, 2020 03:41 PM (qWceQ)

418
Jennifer Lawrence is in the StinkEye club too, IIRC. Fappening hacks. She was doing the standard porn head down ass up pose, IIRC.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (rCwaK)

419 Trump is pushing to win NY....

--

Are there enough honest people that handle election returns in a state like that? As in, if it really tallied up that way and Trump won NY, would they pull the plug from the outlet wall faster than a jackrabbit on a date and stop it?

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (O+I8R)

420 I want to say, it's going to be an early night.

But I'm sure one of you morons already said that.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (4BMGG)

421 So on her first day of class, the new English teacher with a high falutin' linguistics degree wanted to try out a new lesson.

She said, "in English, a double negative makes a positive. However, in other languages like Russian, a double negative is simply an emphatic negative. But there are no known languages in the world where a double positive makes a negative. "

After a few seconds silence, little Johnny in the back row snorted, "Yeah, right. "

(My buddy just told me that one)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (6FeV1)

422 Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2020 03:41 PM (ZLI7S)

Who's this person?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (Zmnko)

423 I voted early in person in VA, because Governor Blackface will declare a state of emergency and cancel election day voting if he can get away with it. Not that it will matter in the people's republic of Virginia, but I wanted my vote to be counted. I don't trust the mail-in ballots, but I also don't trust Democrat governors not to pull out all the stops to cheat. Vote in person early (and often...) if you can.

Posted by: Matt at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (MUp5h)

424 @406
I'm hoping we get the press's lawsuit protections overturned, and school choice vouchers.

Those two thing will make a seismic difference.

Posted by: artemis at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (AwPyG)

425 415 I'd love a 269 tie. I *THINK* Trump would win in the house.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:41 PM (22mNy)

==========

I can't think of a better way for the movement to get rid of the Electoral College to gain a sudden boost of steam than for Trump to lose the popular vote, tie in the Electoral College, and then have a Republican House deliver the presidency to him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (+rZgP)

426 In Wi they did open a gym up as a new treatment center.. I find it hard to believe people are getting that sick... Looks like NY panic all over again
Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (Zmnko)


I think the word you're looking for is "casedemic" - a load of meaningless cases. These states are raiding their universities, coming up with a lot of "positives" that don't amount to a hill of beans, but allow the Coronabros to keep shouting that it's Trump's fault, and we're all going to die.

Posted by: Wally at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (vy/IR)

427 364
"Unwilling to challenge Communist China for its role in the global
pandemic outbreak, Europe is looking for scapegoats closer to home..
French police have raided the homes of senior government and health
officials as part of an investigation into their handling of the
coronavirus pandemic"

What did they expect to find? Cauldrons of bat soup?
Truly, truly, a mental disorder.


Posted by: SMOD at October 16, 2020 03:34 PM (3aI0K)

The great-great-great-grandson of Alfred Dreyfuss.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Proudly Offers Ace-Brand Sequined Messenger Bags! at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (ldR/a)

428 Polls. Gosh I'm worried.

- 2016

Posted by: Cringe Biscuit at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (VF9SE)

429 Jennifer Lawrence is in the StinkEye club too, IIRC. Fappening hacks. She was doing the standard porn head down ass up pose, IIRC.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (rCwaK)


And she's a big fan of the bukakke.....

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 16, 2020 03:42 PM (Zz0t1)

430 Locking up the Supreme Court takes a big piece off the board, limits the left's options. And in lots of cases that would never be of interest to most folks, it will ensure actual conservative results (e.g., personal jurisdiction). But it won't actually advance any culturally conservatives causes. We've lost the culture war for decades. The Court isn't going to reverse Roe v. Wade or the various gay cases. You'll have to win back the culture if you want that. (Spoiler alert: most "conservatives" don't actually want that.)

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 16, 2020 03:43 PM (H5knJ)

431 417 I guarantee you that Trump has way more than 13% of the black vote. I would be surprised if it is not double that.
Posted by: Thatch at October 16, 2020 03:41 PM (qWceQ)

=========

13% is what W got in 2004.

I think Trump can match it. I hope he can exceed it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:43 PM (+rZgP)

432 The problem is democrats will be more dominant after Election Day.

Posted by: InCali at October 16, 2020 03:43 PM (9AFWN)

433 Lindsey Vohn also bared the brown eye.


You know the thing about a Lindsey Vohn?

She's got a lifeless eye.
A Brown Eye.
Like a Whale's Eye.

When she comes at ya, she doesn't even seem to be livin' until she winks at ya and that brown eye gapes open ...

ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin'.

The sheets turn stained and red and despite all the poundin and the hollerin', they all come in and they rip it to pieces.

Posted by: Quint at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM


***

That is oddly specific.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2020 03:43 PM (axyOa)

434 I'd love a 269 tie. I *THINK* Trump would win in the house.
Posted by: Asshoes



I want Trump to CRUSH the dems.
Absolutely crush them.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2020 03:43 PM (4RLKt)

435 Not really sure what will happen at Thanksgiving but Trump wins I will stikll be on cloud 9, if it proves he loses my older relatives will get a earful because those fools have no idea what they are doing.

Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (OjZpE)

436
Allahpussy is completely broken. I picture him sitting in his apartment looking like some disheveled street bum who goes around with one of those "Repent! The End is Near!" signs.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (rCwaK)

437 realchrisrufo

I've obtained shocking new whistleblower documents. Story drops Monday in the New York Post.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2020 03:41 PM (ZLI7S)

FFS.

"Shocking! Game changing! Breaking news!!!"

"Really?!?!? What is it?"

"Meh. It'll keep."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (6FeV1)

438 The concern with all this mail-in early balloting thing was never that it would favor Joe, but that it made fraud easier <<<<<<
ding, ding. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (r+sAi)

439 Rufo is the one exposing the Critical Race Theory scam.

Posted by: artemis at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (AwPyG)

440 FFS peeps, Trump is not winning NY. If he comes within 20 of Biden in NY it will be a small miracle. Let's keep thing in perspective.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (22mNy)

441 I'm going to vote when I get my mail in ballot. No reason to wait, but I do put them in an actual drop box.

And I'd bet Trump takes PA. I want to see Scott Presler go to the White House.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (JKNZq)

442 >>Who's this person?

Documentary maker.

Seems like the NY Post is the go to paper for dumping info on Biden this cycle.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (ZLI7S)

443 Trump gains 4 million votes from 2016

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (OZIO9)

444 439 Rufo is the one exposing the Critical Race Theory scam.

Thanks

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (Zmnko)

445 378 A 269 tie is not that far fetched. Biden wins PA, MI, WI, Trump wins everything else from 2016 and MN and...boom!
Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:36 PM (22mNy)
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Which is why Virginians in the 2nd, 5th, 7th, and 10th House districts MUST vote and get other Trump supporters (or even GOPers) to vote R.

In 2018 voters flipped our 6 Rs to 5 Ds to 4 Rs and 7 Ds. If we go back to 6R-5D, Virginia votes R in the House, should it come to that.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 16, 2020 03:45 PM (M/9m0)

446 Ok I'm confused. Isn't (R) candidate John James a black man? And they've already determined that white supremacists are the ones who plotted the kidnapping? So a black man was part of a white supremacist plot?

Here's the presumption...

John James is R ==> Will vote for Trump ==> Not black.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at October 16, 2020 03:45 PM (ExV1e)

447 Would be nice to see Upstate NY politics actually rule the state again.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Changing My Tone at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (8YFRI)
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Ditto from Michigan. Used to be the non-Detroit areas in Michigan could counter-balance the DMA.
Posted by: Axeman

I remember when (until 1974) Northern Virginia was solidly conservative.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 16, 2020 03:45 PM (FTlwv)

448 .... I would rub a Trump victory in their faces. "All that screaming, all that violence, all those riots, all that impeachment, all that phony Kung Flu and you STILL LOST! Get fucked for the next four years!

And get the fuck out of my house, too!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM (2JVJo)

What time is dinner?! That sounds perfect!

Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 03:45 PM (BRkq2)

449 440 FFS peeps, Trump is not winning NY. If he comes within 20 of Biden in NY it will be a small miracle. Let's keep thing in perspective.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (22mNy)

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A 4 point improvement over 2016?

I could buy it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:45 PM (+rZgP)

450 Take back Jeffrey Epstein
Take back Pantifa Ho
Take back Beijing Biden
Give 'em all some place to go
You're Til Tokin' me, you're Tik Tokin' me
Quit Tik Tokin' me ...
Posted by: ShainS

I sense some haiku and math in this.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 16, 2020 03:45 PM (pB6Gt)

451 Jennifer Lawrence is in the StinkEye club too

She's odd. Sometimes she looks gorgeous, sometimes she looks like a 6 you'd see at the little booth in a shopping mall. I think she's probably a solid 6 or 7 that gets great makeup and lighting in movies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:45 PM (KZzsI)

452 You know how you can tell Trump is winning?

Poll trolls haven't been around recently.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 16, 2020 03:45 PM (ZLI7S)

453 I'm hoping Kim Klacik will win...

Posted by: IC at October 16, 2020 03:45 PM (a0IVu)

454 Ambivalence about apathy is an early, early indicator for Alzheimer's sumpin' sumpin'. And combativeness, maybe.

Posted by: klaftern at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (RuIsu)

455 If Obammy had campaigned for Joe we might be looking at a totally different race. If he actually used his popularity for Joe, Trump would be campaigning against him and his machine. I think he could have pulled Joe over the finish line. The dems were stupid not to use him.

Posted by: Megthered at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (SM/op)

456 Mg Citrate is more completely absorbed. So says a doc on PBS.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (fNjs9)

457 Poll trolls haven't been around recently

We had a concern troll

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (Zmnko)

458 I am registered Working Families, tho, just fuck with them.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (4vNgL)

459 390 Why couldn't the Fleetwood Mac woman have given up the baby for adoption, or keep it and still manage to have a music career?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (WkPC9)

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The inconvenience of carrying it to full term and giving birth >>>>> The life of your baby

/half-joking but I've thought of this as well

Posted by: ShainS at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (sKZ8P)

460 13% is what W got in 2004.

I think Trump can match it. I hope he can exceed it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:43 PM (+rZgP)
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I'm reluctant to agree to anything, but it seems to me that the Big Media can't even keep pro-Trump black people from being shown on TV, there are likely more for Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (Eicbe)

461 457 Poll trolls haven't been around recently

We had a concern troll
Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (Zmnko)

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Who yearned for the leadership of...George W. Bush, the guy so defenseless and spineless that he let Scooter Libby out to dry and never even defended himself against anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (+rZgP)

462 Tub girl.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM (hku12)

Glad I looked it up, first.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (fNjs9)

463 Trump gains 4 million votes from 2016

I may be wrong and way off base -- I was with Obama, both times, and thought Trump would lose -- but I don't see any scenario in which he gets fewer votes than last time. Which would mean the Democrats somehow have to crap out a ton of more votes because Biden is such a great choice??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:47 PM (KZzsI)

464 You're forgetting that Biden has the millionaire crackhead relative vote to himself.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at October 16, 2020 03:47 PM (SchxB)

465 But Ace, Allahpundit tells me it's over! He says all of the leaky little political operatives are scrambling off the ship! There's not even a chance!

Posted by: But Ace at October 16, 2020 03:47 PM (7CyhL)

466 Heh:

@BIZPACReview 46m

Billboard looming over Sunset Strip sports Joe Biden as 'Swamp Thing'

twitter.com/BIZPACReview/status/1317178633576796160

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 16, 2020 03:47 PM (ttBFI)

467 Trump gets more than 13% black vote, although I don't know how much more he picks up. Will be with black men, not women. I keep seeing black guys on Twitter talking about how they have to break it to their family that they are voting Trump.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 16, 2020 03:47 PM (JKNZq)

468 Why couldn't the Fleetwood Mac woman have given up the baby for adoption, or keep it and still manage to have a music career?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (WkPC9)


It would mean should would have to carry the child to term. Nothing was going to get in her way.

That is how bizarre this statement sounds.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2020 03:47 PM (sfhL4)

469 This comment in a thread full of Hope Solo ass pic discussion.

What are the odds?
Posted by: Tonypete at October 16, 2020 03:32 PM


The odds of a Hope Solo's specialty discussion here?

If past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior, asymptotically approaching unity.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 16, 2020 03:47 PM (DMUuz)

470 394 I've been hearing about a fresh "surge" of WuFlu since July.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (22mNy)

I think the numbers show that every area will have one big spike, then a steady drop off. And each city and area follows it's own trajectory, which is why national numbers are foolish.

New York, New Jersey, and Louisiana all had their big spike in the spring, along with a lot of mismanagement. Texas and Florida and the rest of the South had their spike in July into August, now tapering off. The upper midwest and the west never had much of a spike til now, so it's their turn now.

there is no "2nd Wave", there hasn't been one of those anywhere in this country. Instead, what happens is one spot gets hot, then gradually gets over it, then a different spot gets hot, then gets over it. The only thing that Lockdowns have done has been to delay the initial onset of the first spike in different areas - but as soon as they start opening up, then that spike comes and the total illnesses and fatalities over time end up being the same for those places that locked down and those places that didn't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2020 03:47 PM (Kpl3J)

471 The Surge! of completely asymptomatic cases obviously won't overwhelm hospitals and is due to the test kits and the test readers. This is all being manufactured to either discourage in-person voting or make states cancel in-person voting.

This Surge! will exponentially increase daily up until Election Day, and will immediately drop off a cliff the day after.

Posted by: emange at October 16, 2020 03:47 PM (hCqcJ)

472 Poll trolls haven't been around recently.

Could mean they're so confident of a Biden victory that they don't feel the need.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:47 PM (KZzsI)

473 Ice Cube is off the plantation. He's not MAGA by any stretch - but he's just announced to 5.5 million followers, many black, that the Democrats don't do shit for them.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:48 PM (OZIO9)

474 Hey! Ungawa! Trump has got the powa!

Posted by: Archer at October 16, 2020 03:48 PM (gmo/4)

475 >>Why couldn't the Fleetwood Mac woman have given up the baby for adoption, or keep it and still manage to have a music career?


Don't let her bullshit you, if she had tried to carry a baby to term at that time in her life it would have died from her cocaine abuse, alone.

Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 03:48 PM (t3j7U)

476 449 440 FFS peeps, Trump is not winning NY. If he comes within 20 of Biden in NY it will be a small miracle. Let's keep thing in perspective.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (22mNy)

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A 4 point improvement over 2016?

I could buy it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:45 PM (+rZgP)

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Ahh true. I thought Hills won by 27 there for some reason. Anyway, Two Scoops ain't winning NY.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:48 PM (22mNy)

477 Pat Buchanan was pulling 20 to 30% in ALL the primaries in 1992; right up at the end, he was still getting 10% or more.

That's how unpopular with the base GHW Bush was.

All the challengers to Trump combined never got 1%

Posted by: RoyalOil at October 16, 2020 03:48 PM (aO8Gd)

478 It would mean should would have to carry the child to term. Nothing was going to get in her way.

...of hard partying and drugs

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:48 PM (KZzsI)

479 Ice Cube asked why are Democrats always about "minority" this and "people of color" that. He said - what about BLACK people.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:48 PM (OZIO9)

480 473 Ice Cube is off the plantation. He's not MAGA by any stretch - but he's just announced to 5.5 million followers, many black, that the Democrats don't do shit for them.
Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:48 PM (OZIO9)

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That and Kanye is going to make an impact.

Trump gets 30% of the black male vote: very possible.

Trump gets 10% of the black female vote: perhaps possible.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:48 PM (+rZgP)

481 186 180 How are the strippers polling?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 16, 2020 03:13 PM (pB6Gt)

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Greasily.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:14 PM (+rZgP)

You're speaking to a bot.

Posted by: m at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (6WbUY)

482 56 Only poll that counts ends on Nov. 3.
Posted by: Twitter at October 16, 2020 02:56 PM (kHg6S)
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If that were true, he would breeze. This sh-t won't end this year.
Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 02:57 PM (BRkq2)
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My assumption is the delays in certifying will only work up to a certain point. As they get closer to their deadline, and suits get filed, it'll fast track to the SC, and that should be that.

I can't see how this thing drags on beyond a few weeks. If that.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 16, 2020 03:02 PM (hku12)
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I hope you are right!

Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (BRkq2)

483 Because Stevie Nicks was a coke addicted whore. She talks in her autobiography about having her employees use coke suppositories because she'd blown out the membranes in her nose. The same book where she talks about how much she wishes she'd had that baby.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (JKNZq)

484 Early voting is greatness...gives you flexibility to schedule things, etc. Really, how many people change their friggin minds in the last 2 weeks of a campaign?

Posted by: FriscoJim at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (+56GQ)

485 476
Ahh true. I thought Hills won by 27 there for some reason. Anyway, Two Scoops ain't winning NY.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:48 PM (22mNy)

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Yeah, he's not going to win NY, but he could help make the difference in the 7 districts that are D+4 or more Republican turn from blue to red.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (+rZgP)

486 BRB gotta pick up my repaired Macbook.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (pw+jk)

487 [Ice Cube] just announced to 5.5 million followers, many black, that the Democrats don't do shit for them.

I think they have always known that, but they've also been convinced by the media, peer pressure, local pastors etc that Republicans are evil and want to burn them in a church while whipping them and making them into slaves.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (KZzsI)

488 @JackPosobiec

BREAKING: Peter Schweizer has obtained new Hunter Biden emails from a former business partner

https://tinyurl.com/y2m339bm

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (cF8AT)

489 406---They've used the courts to push through almost every major policy change for about 50 years....

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:40 PM (+rZgP)
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Make that "about 100 years."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (M/9m0)

490 Peter Schweizer over at Breitbart is breaking news that they have obtained emails from Hunter Biden's former business partner showing clear evidence of Hunter Biden and Joe Biden selling White House political access to China.

https://tinyurl.com/yxecn49a

Posted by: Nevyan at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (a7HML)

491 Why couldn't the Fleetwood Mac woman have given up the baby for adoption, or keep it and still manage to have a music career?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2020 03:38 PM (WkPC9)

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The inconvenience of carrying it to full term and giving birth >>>>> The life of your baby

/half-joking but I've thought of this as well

Posted by: ShainS at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (sKZ8P)
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I discovered awhile ago that the FM song "Sarah" was allegedly written about the aborted baby.

Yikes. That is cold.



Posted by: Boots at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (oGBso)

492 148 99 The media polls have been lying you say?

Who knew?
Posted by: JackStraw
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*raises hand*
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:05 PM (5p7BC)

*raises two hands*
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Raises both heels.

Posted by: Kamala Sutra Gobslobberer at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (JNTt1)

493 196 Mom worked the polls in 2016. She said people were bonkers excited to vote for Trump. She couldn't walk away from the machines fast enough after explaining how to use it before she saw their vote choice. She also said that they didn't care about voting for anyone else. Just Trump.
Posted by: jmel at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (bVhJi)

This is SO GREAT!

Posted by: m at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (6WbUY)

494 I love Little Johnny jokes.

Little Johnny watched, fascinated, as his mother smoothed cold cream on her face. "Why do you do that mommy?" he asked. "To make myself beautiful," she replied. She then began to remove the cream with a tissue.

"What's the matter," asked Little Johnny, "Giving up?"

Posted by: Diogenes at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (axyOa)

495 Allahpussy is completely broken. I picture him sitting in his apartment looking like some disheveled street bum who goes around with one of those "Repent! The End is Near!" signs.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (rCwaK)


They do not realize it but they have created some strange demonic new religion and have been sucked into it whole. They worship the worst in life.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (sfhL4)

496 >> Peter Schweizer over at Breitbart is breaking news that they have obtained emails from Hunter Biden's former business partner showing clear evidence of Hunter Biden and Joe Biden selling White House political access to China.


VOTE EARLY!

Posted by: DNC at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (t3j7U)

497 I'm pro-2A and I want to know how you will stop crazy white shooters from getting dangerous assault weapons through the gun show loophole?

I'm anti-illegal immigration but I want to know what you plan to do to help all the illegal immigrants who are already here, including the ones you lock in cages?

Posted by: Undecided Voter Leaning Trump at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (OZIO9)

498 Ooops...there's more....

@JackPosobiec 2m

"These and more explosive never-before-revealed emails were provided to Schweizer by Bevan Cooney, a one-time Hunter Biden and Devon Archer business associate."

"Cooney explained that he believes he was the "fall guy" for the fraud scheme and that Archer and Hunter Biden had avoided responsibility."

Posted by: Tami at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (cF8AT)

499 The only spikes are the areas where they finally got the testing materials.

More testing = more cases, but the death rate is still infinitesimal.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 16, 2020 03:51 PM (jUVms)

500 You know how you can tell Trump is winning?

Poll trolls haven't been around recently.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Good point

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 03:51 PM (5p7BC)

501 489 406---They've used the courts to push through almost every major policy change for about 50 years....

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:40 PM (+rZgP)
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Make that "about 100 years."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (M/9m0)

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I kind of start with Roe v Wade. They at least got the Great Society and the Civil Rights Act through Congress.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 16, 2020 03:51 PM (+rZgP)

502 >>I love Little Johnny jokes.


'Fuck you, that's the electrician's job!'

Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 03:51 PM (t3j7U)

503 And it's odd that she thinks she couldn't have carried the baby to term. Joni Mitchell did and gave her daughter up for adoption. But that was an earlier time.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 16, 2020 03:51 PM (JKNZq)

504 455 Obama's constituency is personal and not really transferrable to Joe.

I would guess the same about Trump. Quite a bit of Trump voters are in it for him and could care less about Gope Swamp creatures.

That feature of our electoral system is why only one sitting VP (not including a VP elevated to the Presidency like LBJ, Truman, or Coolidge) in recent history won--GHWB.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 03:51 PM (OLiBJ)

505 raimondo's mom works the polls

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:52 PM (OZIO9)

506 OT-And for some slight comic relief. This is the 2020 award winning entry for the Bulwer-Lytton contest for the most atrocious opening sentence for a hypothetical bad novel:

Her Dear John missive flapped unambiguously in the windy breeze, hanging like a pizza menu on the doorknob of my mind.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2020 03:52 PM (WkPC9)

507 497 I'm pro-2A and I want to know how you will stop crazy white shooters from getting dangerous assault weapons through the gun show loophole?

I'm anti-illegal immigration but I want to know what you plan to do to help all the illegal immigrants who are already here, including the ones you lock in cages?
Posted by: Undecided Voter Leaning Trump at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (OZIO9)

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I too am undecided and want to know why Trump have tax cuts to billionaires while hard working single mothers are starving.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:52 PM (22mNy)

508 Don't let her bullshit you, if she had tried to carry a baby to term at that time in her life it would have died from her cocaine abuse, alone.
Posted by: garrett at October 16, 2020 03:48 PM (t3j7U)

Exactly.

Posted by: Gilded at October 16, 2020 03:52 PM (BRkq2)

509 Mom worked the polls in 2016. She said people were bonkers excited to vote for Trump. She couldn't walk away from the machines fast enough after explaining how to use it before she saw their vote choice. She also said that they didn't care about voting for anyone else. Just Trump.
Posted by: jmel at October 16, 2020 03:15 PM (bVhJi)

This is SO GREAT!
Posted by: m at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (6WbUY)


I was thinking about this when yesterday said the turnout was huge and what should we think of that.

Who is turning out in person? Aren't the democrats afraid of the wuhan shadow at this point?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 16, 2020 03:52 PM (sfhL4)

510 @487
You know who else is saying that? Kanye. Kanye, with his 31 MILLION followers. But twitter is bad!

Posted by: artemis at October 16, 2020 03:52 PM (AwPyG)

511 >>The party split will start in New York.

I agree that this state is the state to watch going forward - will see if it makes some GOP advances in this election. But if there is to be hope for CA or WA or Il - it starts with NY

Posted by: Boswell at October 16, 2020 03:52 PM (w2LAm)

512 NSFW

https://celebmasta.com/lindsey-vonn2/
But what the fuck do I care.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at October 16, 2020 03:53 PM (pw+jk)

513
You're speaking to a bot.
Posted by: m

I'm not a bot. I'm a robot with an anus just like the 2 anuses you have.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 16, 2020 03:53 PM (pB6Gt)

514 I think they have always known that, but they've also been convinced by the media, peer pressure, local pastors etc that Republicans are evil and want to burn them in a church while whipping them and making them into slaves.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (KZzsI)

No. This is different. Voter apathy is a precursor to the dementia candidate losing.

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:53 PM (OZIO9)

515 I think late November is going to be a bunch of analysts talking about how could they have gotten it so wrong about elderly voters, and why the "gray flight" from Trump was so false.

Elderly people are the LEAST likely to be frightened by yet another health scare, after living through what they have.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:53 PM (KZzsI)

516 Trump gets more than 13% black vote, although I don't know how much more he picks up. Will be with black men, not women. I keep seeing black guys on Twitter talking about how they have to break it to their family that they are voting Trump.

Posted by: notsothoreau


That's more a vote against the Dems. I expect a "Black National Party" of some sort within 5-10 years.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: @BrotherTim is on Parler at October 16, 2020 03:53 PM (OUMaO)

517 Ah yes. We are now close to the ejection so the pollsters are trying to keep their credibility as there job trying to discourage republican voters is winding down.

Posted by: keena at October 16, 2020 03:53 PM (RiTnx)

518 447---I remember when (until 1974) Northern Virginia was solidly conservative.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 16, 2020 03:45 PM (FTlwv)
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Republican maybe, but not conservative.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 16, 2020 03:53 PM (M/9m0)

519 You can find more Bulwer-Lytton atrocious opening sentence award winners from the past here:

https://www.bulwer-lytton.com/winners

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2020 03:54 PM (WkPC9)

520 oh man that was quite a nap

present

Posted by: DB- just DB. at October 16, 2020 03:54 PM (iTXRQ)

521 raimondo's mom works the polls
Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:52 PM (OZIO9)


At Bada Bing.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 16, 2020 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

522 Election not ejection! LOL

Posted by: keena at October 16, 2020 03:54 PM (RiTnx)

523 443 Trump gains 4 million votes from 2016

Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (OZIO9)


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Offset by # of mail-in votes for Beijing Biden from China.
/Only half-jokin'

Posted by: ShainS at October 16, 2020 03:54 PM (sKZ8P)

524 on the doorknob of my mind.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 16, 2020 03:52 PM (WkPC9)

*jots down for ukulele song*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner' at October 16, 2020 03:54 PM (Gd3Hn)

525 Poll trolls haven't been around recently

We had a concern troll
Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (Zmnko)
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Are you concerned that trolls haven't been around recently?

Posted by: Axeman at October 16, 2020 03:54 PM (Eicbe)

526 Political polls. Black criminals. Missing kids. Kung Flu deaths.

We just can't seem to come up with a "science" that can accurately count things.

We can put nanobots in your bloodstream and invent cars that can drive themselves.

But counting things is still just too damned difficult.

At this point, it's looking like we DON'T WANT to count things.

Posted by: RKae at October 16, 2020 03:55 PM (mg6lJ)

527 Oye como va ?

Posted by: Jorge Santana at October 16, 2020 03:55 PM (LthQw)

528 Obama's constituency is personal and not really transferrable to Joe.

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That's possibly the kindest, most gentle way I've ever seen that written.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - fight like you're the third monkey in line for the ark at October 16, 2020 03:55 PM (em09h)

529 435 Not really sure what will happen at Thanksgiving but Trump wins I will still be on cloud 9, if it proves he loses my older relatives will get a earful because those fools have no idea what they are doing.
Posted by: Skip at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (OjZpE)

I've been thinking that the best way to do this is not to give anyone an "earful", no discussions (since they won't listen anyways) Instead, tell them you have something you've come up with a little thing that gives you great Positive Vibes, that you want to show them.

Then you get up, take a breath, and do your dance. "Go Trump, Uh Huh, Go Trump, Yeah Yeah!!". Do some lariet action with one hand over your head, maybe a bit of Frankenstein arms out front, then close with some rockin' pelvic action! Everyone will be very impressed!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 16, 2020 03:55 PM (Kpl3J)

530 I think the Dems, pandering to illegals, are finally convincing the blacks that their vote is taken for granted. Trump has actually been trying to do something to get their votes.

Posted by: notsothoreau at October 16, 2020 03:55 PM (JKNZq)

531 FFS peeps, Trump is not winning NY. If he comes within 20 of Biden in NY it will be a small miracle. Let's keep thing in perspective.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 16, 2020 03:44 PM (22mNy)

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A 4 point improvement over 2016?

I could buy it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I think a campaign rally in NY would be great, just to scare the Dims. Maybe one in Jersey too

Posted by: Jean at October 16, 2020 03:55 PM (Xih1H)

532 Ah yes. We are now close to the ejection so the pollsters are trying to keep their credibility as there job trying to discourage republican voters is winding down.
Posted by: keena at October 16, 2020 03:53 PM (RiTnx)

All I have to do is get it within the margin of error, and I count it as a win. Trump won PA, and I said Hillary would? Sure, but I had it within the margin of error!

Posted by: Nate Silver at October 16, 2020 03:55 PM (vy/IR)

533 Anyway, if you could pray for her healing it would be much appreciated. We all love her so much. Thanks so much.
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Done.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at October 16, 2020 03:56 PM (k4dH2)

534 And Jorgenson is not pulling Johnson's numbers. The Libertarian protest vote is going to come home to Trump.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis


This is somewhat similar in comparison to the 1980 election and the 1984 election.

John Anderson, running third party, got about 6% of the vote, which was largely (In my humble opinion) a group of disaffected Republicans who did not want to vote for Ronald Reagan.
There was no Anderson in 1984, and Reagan won by a landslide.
Agreed, there was a LOT of positive economic news in 1984 for Reagan to run on, but third part candidates tend to do funny things in elections.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 16, 2020 03:57 PM (vcOmj)

535 The polls are crap.

Not necessarily wrong, but they're crap. Phone polls get responses from less than 10% of the people they call. 90% of the people who are called hang up as soon as they hear it's a pollster.

Do you think the 10% that actually respond are a representative sample of the people who will eventually vote? Who the hell knows? The pollsters claim they can fiddle with the sample weighting and get meaningful results. I think they're full of crap, and as a result . . .

The polls are crap.

Posted by: a.moron at October 16, 2020 03:57 PM (bjCNA)

536 525
Poll trolls haven't been around recently



We had a concern troll

Posted by: It's me donna at October 16, 2020 03:46 PM (Zmnko)

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Are you concerned that trolls haven't been around recently?

Posted by: Axeman at October 16, 2020 03:54 PM (Eicbe)

well I'm concerned that she's concerned.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner' at October 16, 2020 03:57 PM (Gd3Hn)

537 NO VOTE I

Posted by: The Horta at October 16, 2020 03:57 PM (pw+jk)

538 But counting things is still just too damned difficult.

At this point, it's looking like we DON'T WANT to count things.
Posted by: RKae at October 16, 2020 03:55 PM (mg6lJ)"

Hey don't knock it, we've been working on perfecting that approach for 30 years now!

Posted by: Climate Scientists at October 16, 2020 03:57 PM (Kpl3J)

539 501, What a lot of folks are missing is that corporations, government, and educational institutions at their heart are risk averse.

If they start getting lawsuits based on critical race theory training/Title IX violations and lose them on racial or gender discrimination, they will dump it. If they get enough lawsuits regarding section 230, anti trust, violation of terms, etc. and lose enough of them--they will capitulate. You cannot install virtue in such places but you can place the incentive structure there for them to do the right thing regardless of their desires or that they pay through the nose.

Remove or limit Sullivan v. NYT, by returning to the older libel/slander doctrine, media will be forced to comply or go bankrupt.

A lot of folks dump on trial lawyers for a variety of sins, but when you are the aggrieved one or accused of a crime, you want the meanest sob on the block to represent you. And at the heart of their actions is individual fairness to client and mucho bucks for them.

In the long run, people and institutions respond to both positive and negative incentives.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 03:57 PM (OLiBJ)

540 You know who else is saying that? Kanye. Kanye, with his 31 MILLION followers. But twitter is bad!
Posted by: artemis at October 16, 2020 03:52 PM (AwPyG)


Don't kid yourself.

Twatter is VERY bad and the world would be better off without it.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at October 16, 2020 03:58 PM (Zz0t1)

541 Nood

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 16, 2020 03:58 PM (ttBFI)

542 472 Poll trolls haven't been around recently.

Could mean they're so confident of a Biden victory that they don't feel the need.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:47 PM (KZzsI)

No...

They'd be here rubbing it in our faces 24/7

The dispiriting realization is dawning on them that they're about to be relegated to wandering the wilderness for the next four years...

Heh!

Posted by: Donna Brazille at October 16, 2020 03:58 PM (BgMrQ)

543 I discovered awhile ago that the FM song "Sarah" was allegedly written about the aborted baby.

Yikes. That is cold.

Posted by: Boots at October 16, 2020 03:50 PM (oGBso)
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First thing that popped in my head was "when you build your house, call me"

Yikes is right.

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 16, 2020 03:59 PM (/ZYFC)

544 Not really sure what will happen at Thanksgiving but Trump wins I will still be on cloud 9, if it proves he loses my older relatives will get a earful because those fools have no idea what they are doing.
Posted by: Skip


I've been thinking that the best way to do this is not to give anyone an "earful", no discussions (since they won't listen anyways) Instead, tell them you have something you've come up with a little thing that gives you great Positive Vibes, that you want to show them.

Posted by: Tom Servo



I just won't be answering the phone. Especially as the shit hits the fan. They voted for it. They get to enjoy it without my help.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 16, 2020 03:59 PM (4RLKt)

545 535, According to Pew, the response rate is 6% or lower depending on type of poll.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 03:59 PM (OLiBJ)

546 Do some lariet action with one hand over your head, maybe a bit of Frankenstein arms out front, then close with some rockin' pelvic action! Everyone will be very impressed!

You gonna demonstrate that the MoMe?

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 16, 2020 03:59 PM (nxdel)

547 You can find more Bulwer-Lytton atrocious opening sentence award winners from the past here:

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Are any "Jack Reacher" books on there?

I tried to read one of those on a friend's advice, and I didn't get very far.

I think Joe Biden is better at complete sentences than Lee Child is. Child seems to think sentence fragments are "intense!"

If Somerset Maugham could read a "Jack Reacher" book, he'd never stop throwing up.

Posted by: RKae at October 16, 2020 03:59 PM (mg6lJ)

548 526 Political polls. Black criminals. Missing kids. Kung Flu deaths.

We just can't seem to come up with a "science" that can accurately count things.

We can put nanobots in your bloodstream and invent cars that can drive themselves.

But counting things is still just too damned difficult.

At this point, it's looking like we DON'T WANT to count things.
Posted by: RKae at October 16, 2020 03:55 PM (mg6lJ)

Science isn't magic. And sampling and modeling are both terribly fuzzy exercises. Generally to get good at either for a given subject you'd need to be able to try something over and over again.

Posted by: Someguy at October 16, 2020 04:00 PM (Zm+LZ)

549 Not necessarily wrong, but they're crap. Phone polls get responses from less than 10% of the people they call.
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2%

That is not an exaggeration. 2% response rate, and it goes down further if you don't match the racial makeup of the respondent.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 16, 2020 04:00 PM (5p7BC)

550 Because Stevie Nicks was a coke addicted whore. She talks in her autobiography about having her employees use coke suppositories because she'd blown out the membranes in her nose. The same book where she talks about how much she wishes she'd had that baby.
Posted by: notsothoreau at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (JKNZq)


What a job -
Gaffer! Insert cocaine suppository now! Put it all the way up in there. Deeper. Use your meat stick to go all the way.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 16, 2020 04:00 PM (/Dgcm)

551 The change in NY will start in urban areas as POC immigrants reject Donk race politics. AA's are held in low esteem here and i dont see.their shithole life attacting voters.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at October 16, 2020 04:01 PM (4vNgL)

552 The Doorstops of Perception.

Posted by: klaftern at October 16, 2020 04:01 PM (RuIsu)

553 >>> 289 Ask yourself how a black woman ended up on camera nodding her head along with Trump in prime time on NBC of all places. How bad did they screw it up? Did they assume because she was black that she'd be "perfect" to go on camera? Was God's hand involved? Posted by: ... at October 16, 2020 03:24 PM (OZIO9)

I love her, she is my new girlcrush! I'm sad she got doxxed, but she's tough, black, AND Latina, she can handle it.

At her twitter, a daily dose of happy: excellent salsa dancing to that Donald Trump song.
twitter.com/JoliMayra/status/1312025670164373504

At her FB, cooking with adobo and Goya. Should be added to the weekly food thread. Just wish I spoke Spanish and could learn what she's cooking.
facebook.com/jolilaw/posts/3434061143283380

Posted by: LizLem at October 16, 2020 04:02 PM (Rbfr/)

554 89 I am truly terrified of living in a country that would elect Joe Biden for president. What is wrong with democrats?
Posted by: iandeal at October 16, 2020 03:04

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I get it. I'm not terrified. I am however, sickened. I don't want to live in an AO where half the people support and wish for Communism. I am almost at the point whereas I hope Biden wins, and screws with the 2A immediately, so I can apeshit without guilt.

Posted by: Hell, I don't know at October 16, 2020 04:02 PM (r+ov6)

555 I have no worry about early voting by registered voters, whether they are Communist or Republican.

I have no worry about verifiable, auditable absentee voting by registered voters, whether they are Communist or Republican.

And I certainly have no worry about Election Day voting at the polling stations by registered voters, whether they be Communist or Republican.

BUT... I have EXTREME WORRIES about illegal, unauditable voting cast by unsolicited mail-in ballots whose provenance cannot be determined.

FINALLY, I have utmost TERROR at the thought of the Communists manufacturing mail-in votes AFTER ELECTION DAY IS OVER and flipping the election of the presidency and most down-ticket offices to the communists.

Posted by: Jonah Kyle at October 16, 2020 04:04 PM (SH7Tr)

556 515, Christopher Taylor,

A recent Oct 2020 poll by Scott Rasmussen indicates that you are probably right. The demographic least willing to lock down the economy again were those 65+ in age (23%). The most willing were 43% of millenials ages 25-34 followed by 18-24 year olds at 39%. This was a likely voter sample.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2lmf7jz

However, a majority in each demographic group surveyed supported adaptation to Covid rather than another lockdown or continuing an existing lockdown.

Posted by: whig at October 16, 2020 04:06 PM (OLiBJ)

557 Be careful what that damned commie down the street wishes for, he just might get it.

Posted by: klaftern at October 16, 2020 04:07 PM (RuIsu)

558 I'm thinking, with my gut, that Trump knows he has it won and is barnstorming for the beatdown.

A bit of the old Ultra-Violence, iow. And yes, I'm an optimist by nature.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 16, 2020 04:09 PM (YqED9)

559 I, for one, am voting for the current President on election day.

In person.

I hope to see gazillions of voters ON ELECTION DAY, following my cue.

In person.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at October 16, 2020 04:09 PM (8l1ux)

560 337 I'd wager Althouse will vote for Trump. She's just not willing to admit it to herself. The "fine people" lie really pissed her off, and I suspect that she'll eventually decide that, even if she doesn't like Trump, the Dems are simply too irresponsibly crazy to be trusted with power.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 16, 2020 03:31 PM

I'm not so sure. If you read her posts in 2016, you would have thought she was strongly anti-Hillary and yet, I believe she later disclosed that she voted for her. She is a Democrat who knows how to draw the most page views. And I say that as someone who enjoys reading her blog.

Posted by: Moonbeam at October 16, 2020 04:12 PM (qe5CM)

561 In Florida, an average of recent polls shows Trump quickly filling the hole he'd dug for himself

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The other possibility is certain polls (like the famed Q poll which Nate Silver loves so much) simply did their late September & early October Republican demoralization polls like they did the last time.

Posted by: William Eaton at October 16, 2020 04:12 PM (cfkTP)

562 Remember ChemJeff?

Posted by: FriscoJim at October 16, 2020 04:13 PM (+56GQ)

563 Recently there have been numerous ads lately in Michigan saying "VOTE", and telling everybody that the laws have been changed and , if you vote in Detroit,you no longer need a drivers license. Gretchen is determined to make sure Biden wins Michigan.

The laws AFAIK, have not been changed.

Posted by: Chillin the most at October 16, 2020 04:14 PM (lonOK)

564 234
FL:

Blacks: Biden 83, Trump 13

Hispanics: Biden 57, Trump 39

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These are very encouraging numbers. The one caveat about Florida (DaveinFla please jump in) is that the Hispanic vote in Florida tends to be a little higher because of the huge Cuban immigrant population, who tend to be very conservative (although the younger Cubans-Americans aren't).
I actually think Trump will end up with 43-43% of the Hispanic vote in Florida, when this is over.

Posted by: Forheremenaremen at October 16, 2020 04:15 PM (pmRSz)

565 Trolls haven't been around much lately

[ ] Concerned

[X] Not Concerned

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 04:16 PM (KZzsI)

566 dave in fl said - The Democrats must bank early votes to remain competitive, and need to win the early vote by 40 to 50 points, otherwise they will lose.

Yep Dave - Baris and Barnes podcast on PA yesterday said exactly that. They generally are not getting the early vote turn out they need, barnes said they are cannibalizing their election day vote according to his data, not getting new voters.

Posted by: donald trump's haircut at October 16, 2020 04:31 PM (fs7Ew)

567 Please G-d.

Posted by: DBH at October 16, 2020 04:36 PM (mOl4P)

568 Who the hell pays any attention to or gives any credence to polls after what happened four years ago? Trump in a landslide!

Posted by: Thomas LaBelle at October 16, 2020 04:39 PM (MxeFh)

569 187 Much as I would love to swing Virginia back, I don't think it'll happen. That state has decided to become California-East.
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I am not expecting it but there are things I'm seeing that make me wonder if it might happen. No Biden bumper stickers anywhere in NOVA. Remarkably few Biden signs. Incumbent Dem Senator campaigning nasty. Governor Northam and the over reach by the State Legislature. The tacit knowledge of all Govt Workers that the COVID thing is a hoax. The resentment towards Teachers shutting down the school year. And the obvious success they have all experienced with Trump.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 16, 2020 03:21 PM (S00tp)

No Biden signs in California. And this morning I saw a Trump Pickup with US and Trump flags on it. Still have seen no Biden cars.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 16, 2020 04:46 PM (eoQWY)

570 Without Wuflu, Trump would have won in a landslide. Because of Wuflu and the shutdowns, it will be closer than it should be - but I think Trump will still win.

And it may be that the reaction to the Wuflu and shutdowns are counterbalanced by the weak Dem response to the riots.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at October 16, 2020 04:51 PM (HabA/)

571 [Ice Cube] just announced to 5.5 million followers, many black, that the Democrats don't do shit for them.

I think they have always known that, but they've also been convinced by the media, peer pressure, local pastors etc that Republicans are evil and want to burn them in a church while whipping them and making them into slaves.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 16, 2020 03:49 PM (KZzsI)

Possibly an unintended fruit from the poison tree of their hatred of religion. The used to be smart enough to mobilize the preachers...

Posted by: Oldcat at October 16, 2020 04:53 PM (eoQWY)

572 The only reason the media and Never-Trumpers keep pushing national polls, which mean nothing with respect to how we elect a president, is to depress the president's turn-out.
Posted by: Dr Spank at October 16, 2020 03:03 PM (NUrEK)

Seriously, does that even work anymore though? I mean, I'm going to go vote the first day I'm back from vaca (early voting in MA starts next week) though my vote (in MA, you know) means absolutely nothing to the POTUS election and none of the other races in my area are competitive (most are not even contested).
Posted by: Doctor.Boom at October 16, 2020 03:07 PM (NYS7S)

I'm not sure it ever worked, but there was and is good money in having people think that it has and does work.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 16, 2020 04:55 PM (eoQWY)

573 We need a George Cruikshank sketch of Bill Kristol waddling around with his pocket watch.

Posted by: Bob Eubanx at October 16, 2020 04:55 PM (SKkKl)

574 Breaking: Baraka getting out of his rotting, cigarette stanked, club chair to go campaign for Sleazy Joe. What city is Baraka going to?


Philla. Think about that for a hot minute.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at October 16, 2020 03:10 PM (sUppP)
*******
Trying to drive the Black vote up because they don't care about Sloe Joe & Hate KamaSutra

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 16, 2020 04:55 PM (VIPrm)

575 Steve Bannon Associate, Miles Guo, Says Trump And The DOJ Are In Possession Of "Nuclear Bomb Hard Drives" Related To Hunter Biden, Xi Jinping, And China's Biological Weapons Program

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 16, 2020 04:57 PM (JlV/v)

576 That's all welcome news, but I don't know how any claim can be made that "registered" Republicans are keeping pace with "registered" Democrats in Michigan and Wisconsin, since neither state registers voters by party.

Texas doesn't either, but at least records the party chosen by voters who participate in primary elections (called "open primary, public choice") so that would provide some insight into the metrics discussed here. However, primary voters in Michigan and Wisconsin may only choose one party, but that choice is concealed ("open primary, private choice"), so there's absolutely no information to work from in that regard.

Posted by: 370H55V at October 16, 2020 04:57 PM (WusEB)

577 Biden's unexplainable surge in national polls makes exactly as much sense as Biden's unexplainable surge in Democratic primaries.

Posted by: Brisco_County_Sr at October 16, 2020 05:01 PM (DBPIP)

578 Maryland Republican Gov. Larry Hogan Casts Write-In Vote for Ronald Reagan

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 16, 2020 05:01 PM (JlV/v)

579 Stevie Nicks claims if she hadn't had an abortion, the world would have been deprived of Fleetwood Mac's greatness
She seems to think it's an even trade-off




Fleetwood Mac was founded in 1967 and Nicks joined the band in 1975. She had her abortion in 1979. There must have been time travel involved.

Posted by: Bigsmith at October 16, 2020 05:27 PM (G/mW5)

580 NOOD

Posted by: Max Power at October 16, 2020 05:41 PM (HsutE)

581 Better now. Booze is the answer.

Posted by: Hell, I don't know at October 16, 2020 06:24 PM (r+ov6)

582 Kennedy Johnson won by vote fraud in Chicago, right? Nixon decided for the good of the country he would not contest it.

@@@

The pattern is Democrats being rewarded for cheating. The question should be what if Republicans fought back against it and won

Posted by: Piratepatch at October 16, 2020 07:00 PM (2Xrky)

583 Trafalgar got WI right.

They missed NV pretty badly. They missed GA governor race by 11.

They ain't perfect.

Posted by: ed baker at October 16, 2020 07:36 PM (XyYvC)

584 A majority of Biden voters might be voting early, but a majority of Biden's votes will be cast after election day if the democrats have their way.

Posted by: Rbastid at October 16, 2020 09:24 PM (Vo8YG)

585 What is it w/ Dem females and their hygiene problems?

That shrieking skank at the alleged DJT town hall could've done w/ a shampoo.
Not Hellary's brand, clearly.

Horizontal Harris on the screen convinces one to run take another shower.

These events are made more miserable by the fact that the Dims and their toadies have a dozen microphones to scream into; PDT has nothing.






Posted by: BOC-we can be like they are at October 17, 2020 12:48 AM (Mce6+)

586 I am not looking at the polls until the last week of October, then maybe they will actually represent what is actually going on with the voters.

Posted by: Heltau at October 17, 2020 03:24 AM (7r6XS)

587 "So Biden actually should have far more early voters right now in these swing states, because he's going to have fewer votes on Election Day."

But he will have many more votes incoming AFTER election day (/s).

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