Why does Joe Biden think Polish people are stupid? [KT]

Poland understands this better than Biden does

David Foster posted an interesting piece yesterday relating to the Party of Identity Politics:

In an interview which has received surprisingly little attention, Joe Biden talked about the Democratic Party's political strategy:
Well, look what's happened. Look what started to seep in, beginning and probably even with candidates during our administration. We stopped showing up at the Polish American club. We stopped showing up, and we all went to you, the really smart people. We had a new kind of coalition we were putting together. College-educated women and college men and boom, boom, boom and so on.
One could conclude from this that Biden doesn't see people of Polish descent as being among the 'really smart people'. I guess he probably never heard of Frederick Chopin, Marie Curie, Nicolaus Copernicus, Stanislaus Ulam, or the Polish cryptologists who made the first breakthroughs in deciphering the Enigma code. And Biden's remark is another example at the way he jumps at the categorization of people...furthermore, he wants to ensure that people stay within expected roles of the categories into which he assigns them. ("If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't Black.") And this kind of categorization-obsession is characteristic of today's entire Democratic Party.

Lesson from History?

Back in 2011, I quoted AJP Taylor on the combination of the ethnic divisions and excessive centralization in the Austro-Hungarian Empire:
The Austrian state suffered from its strength: it had never had its range of activity cut down during a successful period of laissez-faire, and therefore the openings for a national conflict were far greater. There were no private schools or hospitals, no independent universities; and the state, in its infinite paternalism, performed a variety of services from veterinary surgery to the inspecting of buildings. The appointment of every school teacher, of every railway porter, of every hospital doctor, of every tax-collector, was a signal for national struggle. Besides, private industry looked to the state for aid from tariffs and subsidies; these, in every country, produce 'log-rolling,' and nationalism offered an added lever with which to shift the logs. German industries demanded state aid to preserve their privileged position; Czech industries demanded state aid to redress the inequalities of the past. The first generation of national rivals had been the products of universities and fought for appointment at the highest professional level: their disputes concerned only a few hundred state jobs. The generation which followed them was the result of universal elementary education and fought for the trivial state employment which existed in every village; hence the more popular national conflicts at the turn of the century.
The combination of the Dems' categorization and their drive for government control would likely push the United States in the same direction-and already has, to some extent-although with even more fragmentation and resulting harm than with the case in Austria-Hungary.

More Identity Politics, More History

Joe Biden, white guy, also said this about white guys:

All white guys are just basically, they don't give a damn about women.

Read the whole thing for commentary on how this relates to the way that "Progressive" Democrats put people in demographic buckets, plus some analysis of U.S. election history.

Which demographic bucket do you think the Democrats put you in?

Do you think they think you are as unintelligent as, say, Polish Americans?

Music

Chopin loved Poland.

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1 New meat

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 11:20 AM (OjZpE)

2 Good morning

Posted by: patti o'table, oxidizing slowly at October 17, 2020 11:22 AM (+6yLi)

3 Good morning

Sunday morning.

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at October 17, 2020 11:23 AM (6XLoz)

4 To answer the question - it's projection, as always.

He is an imbecile. He thinks everyone else is also.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2020 11:23 AM (Rvt88)

5 "In an interview which has received surprisingly little attention."

Ooopsies, I guess we missed that one too.

Posted by: MFM at October 17, 2020 11:23 AM (a3we3)

6 willowed:

628 You do not deal with fear by hiding from it or getting rid of the source. You deal with fear by dealing with it, and becoming brave.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 17, 2020 11:20 AM (WyVLE)

Tell Ben Sasse that, while he's laying on the floor and weeping about how All is Lost! All is Lost!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 11:23 AM (V2Yro)

7 Biden is a nasty and stupid piece of work. The neverTrumpers must be talking about someone else when they talk decency and honor.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at October 17, 2020 11:23 AM (lgiXo)

8 Biden doesn't laugh at Pollock jokes...he believes 'em.

Posted by: BignJames at October 17, 2020 11:24 AM (AwYPR)

9 Good morning
Posted by: patti o'table

Are we related?

Posted by: Patty O'Furniture at October 17, 2020 11:24 AM (Rvt88)

10 I guess he probably never heard of Frederick Chopin, Marie Curie,
Nicolaus Copernicus, Stanislaus Ulam, or the Polish cryptologists who
made the first breakthroughs in deciphering the Enigma code.

The what now? I thought an Enigma was a kind of omelet.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 17, 2020 11:24 AM (v16oJ)

11 Polish Content Day!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 11:24 AM (wPVhA)

12 Those are amazing quotations. He's basically saying the Dems are severing themselves from the working class, which is a suicide strategy.

Posted by: Caliban at October 17, 2020 11:25 AM (QE8X6)

13 I still can't believe there's white males left in the Democrat Party, how much self-loathing does that take? Almost like a black man voting for a political party that constantly calls him a n#gger.

I do think some of this is spilling into why black men are at least not as hostile to Trump/GOP as they were say 20 years ago.

Posted by: Blago at October 17, 2020 11:25 AM (gkdnV)

14 King John III Sobieski was a fairly important Polish guy....

In the range of Saving Western Civilization importance.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 17, 2020 11:25 AM (xT2tT)

15 One could conclude from this that Biden doesn't see people of Polish
descent as being among the 'really smart people'. I guess he probably
never heard of Frederick Chopin, Marie Curie, Nicolaus Copernicus,
Stanislaus Ulam, or the Polish cryptologists who made the first
breakthroughs in deciphering the Enigma code.
*cough* St. John Paul II *cough*

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2020 11:25 AM (DJFLF)

16 All the really badass mathematicians come from from Hungary.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 11:25 AM (wPVhA)

17 I've never been big fans of the Poles, given their role in helping Germans kill Jews.

Ducks

Posted by: Asshoes at October 17, 2020 11:26 AM (22mNy)

18 13
I still can't believe there's white males left in the Democrat Party, how much self-loathing does that take?

You assume they identify as a white male.

Posted by: pep at October 17, 2020 11:26 AM (v16oJ)

19 Sure, Anastasia Hupmann can bang out a song on the piano, but how fast is she at making a sammich?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 11:27 AM (wPVhA)

20 I'm kind of impressed that Joe gave the game away like this and nobody rushed in to stick a gag in his mouth.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 17, 2020 11:27 AM (6XLoz)

21 I saw a documentary the other day, After Hitler, about the immediate post war years in Europe. Scores were settled. A brutal peace.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 17, 2020 11:27 AM (+y/Ru)

22 One of the funniest things about politics today is how "college educated" has become a synonym for smart. Anyone with a pulse can get into college. It's barely above a HS diploma anymore.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 17, 2020 11:27 AM (22mNy)

23 There definitely is a long term goal.
All this political stuff in the news is keeping me away from getting back to the 30 Years War story.

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 11:27 AM (OjZpE)

24 17 I've never been big fans of the Poles, given their role in helping Germans kill Jews.

Posted by: Asshoes

Could the case be made that there were cadres from ALL the conquered territories/countries that worked hand in hand with the nazis?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2020 11:27 AM (Rvt88)

25 Spotted in the Polish Art Center, Hamtramck MI at the winter 2018 MIMoMe:

https://stoatnet.org/merrytrumpmas.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 11:27 AM (t+qrx)

26 I read that Poland has banned Biden from stepping foot into their country. LOL. Trump, however, is admired over there almost as much as Reagan, maybe more.

Posted by: jmel at October 17, 2020 11:28 AM (bVhJi)

27 Why does Joe Biden think Polish people are stupid?

Because they don't support Communists.
NEXT QUESTION!

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 17, 2020 11:28 AM (lRrON)

28 laissez-faire?

**********

I used to think lassie fair was like the Westminster Dog Show.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 11:28 AM (m45I2)

29 I saw a liberal UK Guardian "journalist" (BIRM) on the Twatter insisting that the beheading in Paris means that Charlie Hebdo's staff should be arrested immediately.

I can only imagine his take on rapes by Muslims.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 17, 2020 11:28 AM (6XLoz)

30 Could the case be made that there were cadres from ALL the conquered territories/countries that worked hand in hand with the nazis?
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2020 11:27 AM (Rvt8

Indeed there could.

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2020 11:29 AM (ONvIw)

31 Can't i identify myself as any color i want?

8 year old can get a sex change operation, so....

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 17, 2020 11:29 AM (pB6Gt)

32 *cough* St. John Paul II *cough*

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Two time loser. Polish and Catholic. I mean Catholic Catholic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 17, 2020 11:29 AM (+y/Ru)

33 What do you call 30 Pollacks with towels on their heads?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 11:29 AM (89T5c)

34 I'm kind of impressed that Joe gave the game away like this and nobody rushed in to stick a gag in his mouth.
Posted by: Ian S.

Because that is how they all think. They have felt this way so long it's become 'normal' to them and everyone in their DC/NY bubble.

Posted by: Infidel at October 17, 2020 11:29 AM (7N5l4)

35 When Joe talks about his party's appeal to the college educated he means the indoctrinated.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at October 17, 2020 11:29 AM (lgiXo)

36 19
Sure, Anastasia Hupmann can bang out a song on the piano, but how fast is she at making a sammich?

She looks like she's playing in her knickers. Also, there are Winged Hussars cupping her bewbs.

Posted by: pep at October 17, 2020 11:30 AM (v16oJ)

37 Hi everyone. I hope you'll be watching when I fairly moderate the upcoming debate between former Vice President Joe Biden and the racist demagogue currently occupying the people's White House. Join me, won't you?

Oh, here I am with some of my good friends:

https://tinyurl.com/y27he39k

Posted by: Kristen Welker at October 17, 2020 11:30 AM (a3we3)

38 This is CNN.

https://tinyurl.com/y5nwcrv6

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (ZLI7S)

39 I especially like the "boom boom boom and so on." All the bright young things that he wants to suck up to talk like that.

Posted by: Caliban at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (QE8X6)

40

Pollack Noodling - a limerick

In Warsaw my favorite fishing hole
Had fish near an underwater shoal
But you need a local guide
With an arm span extra wide
You can't touch 'em without a 10-foot Pole!

Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (m45I2)

41 Willowed:

646 584 "Flying bear kilss two Canadians in freak accident"

Well, shit, that's why you don't put a bear behind the controls of a Gulfstream 5.

They're much more comfortable in Cessnas.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at October 17, 2020 11:09 AM (OYAWg)

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I love the sub-head:

"We don't see (this) often..."

Posted by: No One of Consequence at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (CAJOC)

42 12 Those are amazing quotations. He's basically saying the Dems are severing themselves from the working class, which is a suicide strategy.
Posted by: Caliban at October 17, 2020 11:25 AM (QE8X6)

I agree - the Dem party, not that long ago, was strongest in the Unionized Labor movement of the northern cities, the old ethnic white working class of the upper midwest.

And Biden is saying how Dems abandoned them and went instead to the Education Establishment as it exists on the two coast. That plus catering to Black and Hispanic voters is what their party is all about now.

and any white voters who fancy themselves as uppwardly mobile educated Professionals of course want to be with the Big Smart University Intellectuals, and not with those stupid dirty ethnic day laborers.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (V2Yro)

43 Ducks
Posted by: Asshoes at October 17, 2020 11:26 AM (22mNy)

Poland had its share of Asshoes, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (yuA3x)

44 Could the case be made that there were cadres from ALL the conquered territories/countries that worked hand in hand with the nazis?
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2020 11:27 AM (Rvt8

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True, but France, Poland and Lithuania were standout disgusting on that score.

OTOH, Italy frustrated Hitler to no end with its lack of enthusiasm for rounding up its Jews. Mussolini even had a few in his cabinet.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (wPVhA)

45 What do you call 30 Pollacks with towels on their heads?

This joke looks fishy.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (SchxB)

46 38 This is CNN.

https://tinyurl.com/y5nwcrv6
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (ZLI7S)

I wonder if he'll get a good book deal for his loyalty

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2020 11:32 AM (ONvIw)

47 Biden doesn't laugh at Pollock jokes...he believes 'em.
Posted by: BignJames at October 17, 2020 11:24 AM (AwYPR)
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We laugh at Pollock jokes. Those crazy guys!

Posted by: Salmon at October 17, 2020 11:32 AM (OYAWg)

48 I'm not white. Very very off white.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 17, 2020 11:32 AM (pB6Gt)

49 Oh, here I am with some of my good friends:

Oh, FFS. I hope this is the last time those asshoes at the PDC get anywhere near a debate.

Posted by: pep at October 17, 2020 11:32 AM (v16oJ)

50 Poles sure got a raping between the Nazis and the Communist Russians, they did get a payoff but was the trade worth it?
I don't have that answer.

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 11:32 AM (OjZpE)

51 You deal with fear by stomping up to it and spitting in its face.

Posted by: creeper at October 17, 2020 11:32 AM (XxJt1)

52 If we were watching an animal in a zoo, it would be fascinating to try and unravel the ramblings of Alzheimer Joe.

I think I get what he's saying, and on one level it makes sense. However... the man is running for President.

It makes sense is your old and senile gorilla is trying to keep the apes in his own cage in line. It doesn't make sense if you're thinking of making that gorilla the keeper of the whole zoo.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 11:33 AM (hku12)

53 Pollock smiled through all the jokes because gullible people were paying big money to buy his masterpieces.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 11:33 AM (wPVhA)

54 20 I'm kind of impressed that Joe gave the game away like this and nobody rushed in to stick a gag in his mouth.

Wait until you see the video of him admitting to using his political power to extort Ukraine for personal gain!

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 17, 2020 11:34 AM (lRrON)

55 OTOH, Italy frustrated Hitler to no end with its lack of enthusiasm for
rounding up its Jews. Mussolini even had a few in his cabinet.

I believe that was also true of the Danes.

Posted by: pep at October 17, 2020 11:34 AM (v16oJ)

56 New Trafalgar poll has John James up 1.4% over Gary Peters in Michigan.

But sure, Slow Joe is winning by double digits.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 11:34 AM (ZLI7S)

57 You deal with fear by stomping up to it and spitting in its face.
Posted by: creeper at October 17, 2020 11:32 AM (XxJt1)

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BUT WHAT ABOUT SOCIAL DISTANCING!!!

Posted by: Karen at October 17, 2020 11:35 AM (wPVhA)

58 38 This is CNN.

https://tinyurl.com/y5nwcrv6
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (ZLI7S)

My God, it's "House of Cards."

Posted by: Caliban at October 17, 2020 11:35 AM (QE8X6)

59 I've misplaced my Style Guide...

What are BIRM and WASFT (?) again?

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 17, 2020 11:35 AM (YqED9)

60 World Wars trivia. In WWI, Serbia lost a greater percentage of its population than any other country. In WWII, it was Poland.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 17, 2020 11:36 AM (+y/Ru)

61 The BEST Polish jokes I've ever heard were told by Poles. Not Polish-Americans ... Poles.

Posted by: goatexchange at October 17, 2020 11:36 AM (HgBj4)

62 A Polish joke they tell in Poland:

Jerzy: Suppose we were invaded by the Germans and the Russians, who do we fight first.

Stanislas: Why, the Russians, of course!

Jerzy: Why is that?

Stanislas: Business first, then pleasure.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at October 17, 2020 11:36 AM (OYAWg)

63 Biden is far from unique, I've posted before that Gilberto Hinojosa, the chairman of the Texas Democrat Party, has openly said that the Straight, White Men are no longer welcome in his organization. He said that without shame, he wouldn't dream of taking it back.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 11:36 AM (V2Yro)

64 BIRM- But I Repeat Myself

WASFT- We Are So Fotally Tucked

Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 11:37 AM (m45I2)

65 The Union Labor movement is still "backing" the democrat party, see Richard Trumka (sp?) about that. He's the head of the afl-cio and made more visits to Barky's White House than any other individual.

But a couple of things about the Labor Movement: Private industry unionization is at about 8% of the workforce. Most union members are public employees - teachers mostly, and public safety personnel like cops.

The dems don't care about sucking up to that tiny little 8% of the private sector workforce anymore. The head of the afl-cio extracts dues from those people and makes huge donations to the dems. But their actual votes aren't as important as that shiny new demographic, the college graduate.

Posted by: Boots at October 17, 2020 11:37 AM (oGBso)

66 What do you call 30 Pollacks with towels on their heads?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 11:29 AM (89T5c)

Pack-a-Stanleys

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 11:37 AM (89T5c)

67 https://twitter.com/BGOnTheScene/status/1317249003986259970?s=20. Joe says armed militia's are roaming our streets

Posted by: jeff at October 17, 2020 11:38 AM (hYRx9)

68 58 38 This is CNN.

https://tinyurl.com/y5nwcrv6
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (ZLI7S)

My God, it's "House of Cards."
Posted by: Caliban at October 17, 2020 11:35 AM (QE8X6)

Well I'm glad to see that Billy Barr was able to make sure that all went away with no charges filed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 11:38 AM (V2Yro)

69 66
What do you call 30 Pollacks with towels on their heads?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 11:29 AM (89T5c)

Pack-a-Stanleys

That's a really good joke. Stella, even.

Posted by: pep at October 17, 2020 11:38 AM (v16oJ)

70 Poland is racist.
The professor told me so.
College shapes my life.

Posted by: Your Purple-haired Pierced Niece at October 17, 2020 11:39 AM (Q1JQ9)

71 >>But their actual votes aren't as important as that shiny new demographic, the college graduate.

Posted by: Boots at October 17, 2020 11:37 AM (oGBso

To appeal to this demographic, you have to lock yourself into untenable positions.

Posted by: Caliban at October 17, 2020 11:39 AM (QE8X6)

72 One of the smartest guys I ever knew (Tony) was Polish, and this was in the '70s and the Polish were actively pushing back against the "dumb" stereotype.

My colleague said "Tony sh*ts away more knowledge than I'll ever have."

Tony didn't care for the stereotype.

Posted by: JM in Florida at October 17, 2020 11:39 AM (g9RhN)

73 The Day of the Siege is a good movie. Poland saved Europe (and Western Civilization) many times.

Posted by: setnaffa at October 17, 2020 11:39 AM (eaJqd)

74 Thankee!

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 17, 2020 11:39 AM (YqED9)

75
Well I'm glad to see that Billy Barr was able to make sure that all went away with no charges filed.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 11:38 AM (V2Yro)

I'm a fucking hero!

Posted by: Billy plays Bagpipes at October 17, 2020 11:39 AM (ONvIw)

76 Repeat please.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 11:39 AM (DLzZd)

77 BUT WHAT ABOUT SOCIAL DISTANCING!!!
Posted by: Karen at October 17, 2020

You will fear me...from a distance.

Posted by: Bette Midler at October 17, 2020 11:39 AM (XxJt1)

78 The chick pianist has nice legs and boobies. has anyone said that yet?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 17, 2020 11:40 AM (Gd3Hn)

79 Where are Stan and Yosh Schmenge?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 11:40 AM (lgiXo)

80 Ok, I might admit whatever Michelle wanted she might get from me

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 11:40 AM (OjZpE)

81 When it comes to the Polish, Slow Joe doesn't know shit from Shinola!

Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 11:40 AM (m45I2)

82 Repeat please.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 11:39 AM (DLzZd)
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TURN RIGHT! ZERO! NINE! ZERO!!!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at October 17, 2020 11:40 AM (OYAWg)

83 That's a really good joke. Stella, even.
Posted by: pep at October 17, 2020 11:38 AM (v16oJ)

It Zbig deal.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 11:41 AM (89T5c)

84 70 Poland is racist.
The professor told me so.
College shapes my life.
Posted by: Your Purple-haired Pierced Niece at October 17, 2020 11:39 AM (Q1JQ9)

And I bet you're taught that "minorities" can never be rayciss, eventhough outside of the US they are not so much in the minority. "Minority" is defined exclusively for groups in the US and Europe.

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2020 11:42 AM (ONvIw)

85 Biden didn't go the the Polish American club because he doesn't like perogies.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 17, 2020 11:42 AM (LBiyC)

86 Has OM ever featured any Polish chess babes?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 11:42 AM (lgiXo)

87 The Democratic Party has transitioned from being the party of the working class yo being the party of the government office, the welfare office, and the faculty club.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 17, 2020 11:42 AM (I2/tG)

88

"Listen, fat. I got no ice in my damn basement refrigerator because the black woman with the recipe said it was an up escalator!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 11:43 AM (s2VJv)

89 Democratic coalitions since FDR have historically been comprised of groups that hate each others guts, but will work together insofar as possible, in order to loot the Public Treasury.

Posted by: Common Tater at October 17, 2020 11:43 AM (QEgj7)

90 Those are amazing quotations. He's basically saying the Dems are severing themselves from the working class, which is a suicide strategy.
Posted by: Caliban at October 17, 2020 11:25 AM (QE8X6)

I agree - the Dem party, not that long ago, was strongest in the Unionized Labor movement of the northern cities, the old ethnic white working class of the upper midwest.

And Biden is saying how Dems abandoned them and went instead to the Education Establishment as it exists on the two coast. That plus catering to Black and Hispanic voters is what their party is all about now.

and any white voters who fancy themselves as uppwardly mobile educated Professionals of course want to be with the Big Smart University Intellectuals, and not with those stupid dirty ethnic day laborers.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (V2Yro)

I also think it's very personal to him. He sees himself as a man who is both a tough guy and an intellectual, and he resents having to, for all those years, stoop down to the level of those blue collar union guys.

He was both one of them, and not one of them, and by golly he doesn't have to pretend anymore. He doesn't need them. He's not one of them.

The fact that the DNC knows a lot of these guys are going to vote for him anyway is just icing on the cake as far as they're concerned. But yeah, it's all about the intersectionals now.

I think they jumped the gun on this, and are going to get stomped by those very same white guys. And gals... the people they think they don't need anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 11:43 AM (hku12)

91 17
I've never been big fans of the Poles, given their role in helping Germans kill Jews.

Ducks

Posted by: Asshoes at October 17, 2020 11:26 AM (22mNy)

US President Roosevelt wasn't too keen on helping the beleagured Jews of Eastern Europe, he's also on the list.
However two notable Poles were persecuted by the Nazi regime, one survived to become the aforementioned world leader Pope John Paul II. the other, Maximillian Kolbe, a Catholic priest imprisoned at Auschwitz, gave up his life in favor of a Jewish prisoner who bemoaned the fact of his family if he was killed. So Kolbe, knowing he had no children or wife that would suffer, offered to stand in that prisoner's stead. And the guards complied.
Kolbe was canonized by the RCC.

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2020 11:44 AM (DJFLF)

92 >>The Democratic Party has transitioned from being the party of the working class yo being the party of the government office, the welfare office, and the faculty club.

And Trump has moved the Republican party to the party of the working class and that's why he is going to win the Rust Belt. Again.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 11:44 AM (ZLI7S)

93 As a polock, I can say I'm the only one that changes light bulbs around here. I just stand on the bucket and change it out. I dont need three people.

Posted by: Menack at October 17, 2020 11:44 AM (buTO7)

94 When the Poles were uprising in Warsaw as the Nazis were retreating and the Soviets advancing until they saw the Nazis counter attack and decided to let the Poles fight it out with them and stopped their advance. The Poles tried to get the Soviets to assist but they had no desire to help their new conquests.

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 11:44 AM (OjZpE)

95 Repeat please.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 11:39 AM (DLzZd)

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TURN RIGHT! ZERO! NINE! ZERO!!!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at October 17, 2020 11:40 AM (OYAWg)

Totally awesome; this guy gets it.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 11:44 AM (DLzZd)

96 Could the case be made that there were cadres from ALL the conquered territories/countries that worked hand in hand with the nazis?
Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2020 11:27 AM (Rvt8

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Sure. But Poland stood out for its desire to help, as a whole.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 17, 2020 11:45 AM (22mNy)

97 Dems are fully aligned with the oligarchs, while saying that the "rich" are republicans. They basically get away with it too.

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2020 11:45 AM (ONvIw)

98 86 Has OM ever featured any Polish chess babes?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 11:42 AM (lgiXo)

No because checkers is the polish chess.

Can that be Polock joke?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at October 17, 2020 11:45 AM (Gd3Hn)

99 The combination of the Dems' categorization and their drive for government control would likely push the United States in the same direction-and already has, to some extent-although with even more fragmentation and resulting harm than with the case in Austria-Hungary.

Remember, in the 1970's, the two countries cited as "successful" examples of multiculturalism were Yugoslavia and Sri Lanka.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 17, 2020 11:45 AM (I2/tG)

100 Who knows...if Trump woulda just let Biden drone on and on at the 1st debate, maybe Joltin' Joe woulda started rippin into some bad taste Polish jokes. Oh what coulda been...

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at October 17, 2020 11:46 AM (uJ5Z/)

101 How many actors does it take to change a lightbulb?

Fifteen.

One to do the job and fourteen others to say they could have done it better.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at October 17, 2020 11:46 AM (OYAWg)

102 38 This is CNN.

https://tinyurl.com/y5nwcrv6
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (ZLI7S)

Apparently, in order for women to be journalists in Corporate Media they have to be a semen receptacle for politicians.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 17, 2020 11:46 AM (lRrON)

103 Public service unions is one of the top 5 things that has destroyed this country.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 17, 2020 11:47 AM (22mNy)

104 Sure. But Poland stood out for its desire to help, as a whole.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 17, 2020 11:45 AM (22mNy)

France was not one bit better. The anti-Jewish laws enacted by Vichy were not mandated by German guns and Panzers.

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2020 11:47 AM (ONvIw)

105 I'm white, Male, AND Polish American. I'm doomed, doomed I tells ya!

Posted by: SacredCow at October 17, 2020 11:47 AM (D4VQX)

106 "Listen, fat. I got no ice in my damn basement refrigerator because the black woman with the recipe said it was an up escalator!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 11:43 AM (s2VJv)

Authentic Biden gibberish.

Posted by: Jordan61 at October 17, 2020 11:47 AM (/I1RL)

107 85
Biden didn't go the the Polish American club because he doesn't like perogies.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 17, 2020 11:42 AM (LBiyC)
I learned how to cook up some good pierogies and I don't think I have much Eastern European DNA, but who knows, right?

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2020 11:47 AM (DJFLF)

108 The Outer Worlds is apparently finally releasing on Steam next weekend. I wonder how many sales it will get after the end of the Epic exclusivity.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 11:48 AM (vMCab)

109 Apparently, in order for women to be journalists in Corporate Media they have to be a semen receptacle for politicians.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 17, 2020 11:46 AM (lRrON)

EWWWW!

Posted by: Rachel Maddow at October 17, 2020 11:48 AM (/I1RL)

110 Get a long little pierogi.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 11:49 AM (m45I2)

111 My aunt used to make potato-jalapeno-cheese perogies, as well as standard potato-variation ones, deep fried. Mmmmm.

Posted by: Jozef Pilsudski at October 17, 2020 11:49 AM (Q1JQ9)

112 EWWWW!
Posted by: Rachel Maddow at October 17, 2020 11:48 AM (/I1RL)

---------

Din't worry Rachel. You have a special exemption.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 11:49 AM (wPVhA)

113 Public service unions is one of the top 5 things that has destroyed this country.

Posted by: Asshoes at October 17, 2020 11:47 AM (22mNy)

You'd think a modicum of gratitude would not be out of order.

Posted by: Saint JFK at October 17, 2020 11:49 AM (DLzZd)

114 100
Who knows...if Trump woulda just let Biden drone on and on at the 1st
debate, maybe Joltin' Joe woulda started rippin into some bad taste
Polish jokes. Oh what coulda been...

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at October 17, 2020 11:46 AM (uJ5Z/)
I actually hope Trump hangs back a bit to give Bidet some slack to hurt himself.
But you know, that is not a solid proposition given whatever drug cocktail they are administering to the rotten husk of a human creature, he seems to perform well when they have him all juiced up and camera ready.

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2020 11:49 AM (DJFLF)

115 Joe's just noticing that 70% of the voters are still white, and most of them aren't Antifa supporters living in Portland.

Joe's just saying that the D's need to do a better job of fooling the rubes.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 17, 2020 11:50 AM (I2/tG)

116 "there were cadres from ALL the conquered territories/countries that worked hand in hand with the nazis?"

and how many Americans work hand in hand with DeepState CIA, in running the Coup from inside? Hillary was bold enough to call it her Resistance forces. People that would openly subvert our government, and use the shadow government in seditious acts.

All running the pay to play, on both the pay and play sides of that equation, are subverting our Republic. Policy bought by Wall Street (and sold by the Clintons and others) have made China a real threat to liberty across the globe.

The Biden candidacy amounts to running a Manchurian Candidate, but not really hiding it. (and it is a broader DeepState Hydra that he serves, including drug/human traffickers, cartels of the worst kind)

Posted by: illiniwek at October 17, 2020 11:50 AM (Cus5s)

117 Din't worry Rachel. You have a special exemption.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 11:49 AM (wPVhA)

...and a turkey baster.

Posted by: BignJames at October 17, 2020 11:50 AM (AwYPR)

118 My local rag has no mention of Biden's emails. It's all SURGING COVID cases. Surging from 5 to 10 in a week. LOL

Posted by: Asshoes at October 17, 2020 11:50 AM (22mNy)

119 So does Biden have any big events on his schedule today?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 11:50 AM (wPVhA)

120 How many performance artists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Two.

One to hold the llama and one to throw the multicolored power tools in the bathtub.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at October 17, 2020 11:51 AM (OYAWg)

121 17 I've never been big fans of the Poles, given their role in helping Germans kill Jews.

Ducks

Posted by: Asshoes at October 17, 2020 11:26 AM (22mNy)

It's a very complicated issue, indeed, especially given my family's direct experience with Mr. Shickelgruber.

Along with the German-run death camps that were all in Poland, the Baltics, Ukraine, Moldova and Belarus are essentially a vast mass grave. While attitudes have certainly changed, sadly a lot of anti-semitic attitudes that pre-date the war by hundreds of years still exist and are still passed on to younger generations, despite the fact that the Jews of Eastern Europe have been all but wiped out.

That said, I try to take people one at a time and given the current politics, I am grateful to have Eastern Europe on our side as real allies.

Anyway, the worst Jew-hate is in France, England, Spain and western Europe. And right here in New York fucking city.

Ugh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 11:51 AM (s2VJv)

122 I actually hope Trump hangs back a bit to give Bidet some slack to hurt himself.
But you know, that is not a solid proposition given whatever drug cocktail they are administering to the rotten husk of a human creature, he seems to perform well when they have him all juiced up and camera ready.
Posted by: kallisto

Considering Hunter's legendary ability to score the best crack, you might be right.

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at October 17, 2020 11:51 AM (uJ5Z/)

123 Biden's comments are also jaw-droopingly elitist.

Since when did Harry Truman's party start sneering like that at working people who didn't have college degrees-- like Truman himself?

Old-fashioned Democrats had profound misgivings about Adlai Stevenson because he was perceived (wrongly, imo) as an "egghead."

"Really smart people," huh? There IS a major political realignment out there somewhere.

And now, I'm off to find out who that "Ulam" guy was!

Posted by: mnw at October 17, 2020 11:51 AM (Cssks)

124 So does Biden have any big events on his schedule today?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 11:50 AM (wPVhA)

The placing of the lid...

Posted by: BignJames at October 17, 2020 11:51 AM (AwYPR)

125 When the Poles were uprising in Warsaw as the Nazis were retreating and the Soviets advancing until they saw the Nazis counter attack and decided to let the Poles fight it out with them and stopped their advance. The Poles tried to get the Soviets to assist but they had no desire to help their new conquests.
Posted by: Skip at

Two reasons why the Soviets didn't help.

1. Polish home guard were viewed as enemies so left the Germans waste lives killing an enemy.

2. Allowed Stalin to focus on taking over the Balkans before finishing Germany.

Posted by: Beartooth at October 17, 2020 11:52 AM (a5ALn)

126 Din't worry Rachel. You have a special exemption.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 11:49 AM (wPVhA)

...and a turkey baster.

Posted by: BignJames at October 17, 2020 11:50 AM (AwYPR)

. . . and a B.O.B.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 11:52 AM (DLzZd)

127
The Outer Worlds is apparently finally releasing on Steam next weekend. I wonder how many sales it will get after the end of the Epic exclusivity.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 11:48 AM

is that the one what's a low level Firefly impersonator?

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 17, 2020 11:52 AM (4+Ec2)

128 Some women don't know the guy is seeing if he can get her to do 'this'. Basicly any woman under 35. Then they wise up.

Posted by: Menack at October 17, 2020 11:52 AM (buTO7)

129 Battle of Britain is in my top 10 war movies, what's not to like in a movie with near vintage aircraft and Susannah York in white cottons?

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 11:53 AM (OjZpE)

130 My Mom would make pierogi, cottage cheese served in butter. My wife didn't like them so she never made them.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 11:53 AM (lgiXo)

131 Likvar pierogies are disgusting.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 11:53 AM (89T5c)

132 Stanislas: Business first, then pleasure.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at October 17, 2020 11:36 AM (OYAWg)

One of Reagan's favorite jokes, which I'm probably not going to tell right... he says he told it to Gorbachev, and Gorby laughed his head off:

Two men, an American and a Russian, arguing about which is better, the U.S. or the Soviet Union.

The American says "By gosh, we have Free Speech in America! Why, I can march to the White House, go into the Oval Office, pound my fist on President Reagan's desk and tell him 'Sir, I do not like the way you are running the country!"

The Russian says, "In the Soviet Union it is the same, I can march to the Kremlin, into Comrade Gorbachev's office, pound my fist on his desk and say "Sir, I do not like the way President Reagan is running his country!"

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 11:53 AM (hku12)

133 is that the one what's a low level Firefly impersonator?
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 17, 2020 11:52 AM (4+Ec2)

Yep.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 11:54 AM (t+qrx)

134 JJ-

What part of Eastern Europe were your relatives from, if you don't mind saying. Totally okay if you'd rather not.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 11:54 AM (m45I2)

135 I'm white, Male, AND Polish American. I'm doomed, doomed I tells ya!

Perhaps you could go on a national apology tour.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 17, 2020 11:54 AM (I2/tG)

136 114 100
Who knows...if Trump woulda just let Biden drone on and on at the 1st
debate, maybe Joltin' Joe woulda started rippin into some bad taste
Polish jokes. Oh what coulda been...

Posted by: THE Lonebadger at October 17, 2020 11:46 AM (uJ5Z/)
I actually hope Trump hangs back a bit to give Bidet some slack to hurt himself.
But you know, that is not a solid proposition given whatever drug cocktail they are administering to the rotten husk of a human creature, he seems to perform well when they have him all juiced up and camera ready.
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2020 11:49 AM (DJFLF)

You are kind of hoping that Trump goes against his nature. It might be a good strategy but that's not how he operates for good or ill. He is a bull in the china shop and when he thinks he sees the opportunity to attack he will move in even if others think the proper strategy is to let him keep talking.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 11:55 AM (vMCab)

137 Anyway, the worst Jew-hate is in France, England, Spain and western Europe. And right here in New York fucking city.

Ugh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 11:51 AM (s2VJv)

Yep. The shit pouring out of Columbia University is pretty stunning.

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2020 11:55 AM (ONvIw)

138 Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 11:53 AM (hku12)
-----
That's a good 'un!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at October 17, 2020 11:55 AM (OYAWg)

139 127
The Outer Worlds is apparently finally releasing on Steam next weekend. I wonder how many sales it will get after the end of the Epic exclusivity.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 11:48 AM

is that the one what's a low level Firefly impersonator?
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 17, 2020 11:52 AM (4+Ec2)

Yes I believe so. I haven't played it yet.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 11:55 AM (vMCab)

140 131 Likvar pierogies are disgusting.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 11:53 AM (89T5c)

Ooh a nice Hungarian prune lekvar! I also like "lecso." Both for the taste and the pronunciation.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 11:56 AM (s2VJv)

141 Din't worry Rachel. You have a special exemption.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 11:49 AM (wPVhA)

Exactly, I said women, not Chris Hayes more masculine brother.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 17, 2020 11:56 AM (lRrON)

142 I had to give up the piano when my fingers would no longer fit between two black keys, and more advanced pieces required this. Well, at least I tried.

Posted by: JM in Florida at October 17, 2020 11:56 AM (g9RhN)

143 Willowed:

I'm totally gonna tweet that curb-crawling scumbag Hancock a picture of my big family praying right before our annual insane Thanksgiving feast, and caption it #RenegadeOutlaws #ComeAndGetUsFlatfoot #YoullNeverTakeUsAlive #Turkey4Life #NoLimitGangstas

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 11:57 AM (eXmcp)

144 94
When the Poles were uprising in Warsaw as the Nazis were retreating and
the Soviets advancing until they saw the Nazis counter attack and
decided to let the Poles fight it out with them and stopped their
advance. The Poles tried to get the Soviets to assist but they had no
desire to help their new conquests.

Posted by: Skip

That's a misreading of history. Actually the Soviets were very kind to and appreciative of the Polish military so much so that they took many thousands of them them to a picnic in the Katyn forest. They enjoyed it so much they didn't come back.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 17, 2020 11:57 AM (LBiyC)

145 The Lefts lust for power requires people to be easy to shave into niches.

It's a requirement of Marxism, and neither can function any other way. Collectivists view things collectively.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2020 11:57 AM (3iAUW)

146
is that the one what's a low level Firefly impersonator?

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 17, 2020 11:52 AM

Yep.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 11:54 AM

needs more projectile weapons & cleavage

but mostly cleavage

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 17, 2020 11:57 AM (4+Ec2)

147 Had polish on one side, then english on the other.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snape,_Suffolk
I founded that fuckin town, or somebody did that had my last name a billion years ago

Posted by: Menack at October 17, 2020 11:57 AM (buTO7)

148 Poland had its share of Asshoes, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 17, 2020 11:31 AM (yuA3x)

As do we here.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 11:58 AM (hku12)

149
Overture to Monbar by Ignacy Dobrzynski

https://youtu.be/SHNOuTiLjs8

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2020 11:59 AM (mht8P)

150 134 JJ-

What part of Eastern Europe were your relatives from, if you don't mind saying. Totally okay if you'd rather not.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 11:54 AM (m45I2)

Mom's side Hungarian. She and her sisters, a brother and mother wound up in Mauthausen, another sister survived Auschwitz, one brother was actually a political prisoner and another brother was in Nordhausen building V-2s. Her father I think was in hiding.

As I get older, the incredible miracle that an entire family of 9 people survived intact hits me harder.

Dad was born in Chicago but his ancestors came from Odessa. I assume they were all wiped out.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 11:59 AM (s2VJv)

151 That's a misreading of history. Actually the Soviets were very kind to and appreciative of the Polish military so much so that they took many thousands of them them to a picnic in the Katyn forest. They enjoyed it so much they didn't come back.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 17, 2020 11:57 AM (LBiyC)

Indeed. My husband watched "The Last Witness" the other night. It is, however, not PC to think of Poles as victims.

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2020 11:59 AM (ONvIw)

152 Apparently, I have to do everything around here.

Ex-UK ambassador's CNN squeeze bikini pics:
https://tinyurl.com/y6g7la93

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 11:59 AM (a3we3)

153 >>You are kind of hoping that Trump goes against his nature. It might be a good strategy but that's not how he operates for good or ill. He is a bull in the china shop and when he thinks he sees the opportunity to attack he will move in even if others think the proper strategy is to let him keep talking.

I agree for the most part but I think he let his anger get a bit out of control during the first debate. Understandable since he has known all this stuff was coming out about Biden and he knows he was part of the coup attempt but he kind of bailed Biden out and made him sympathetic to some.

It has to be frustrating as hell given what he goes through every damn day with the media while the same media protects and shields Biden from his obvious issues and lies. But Biden is his own worst enemy, the more he talks the more damage he does to himself.

I hope he dials it down a notch in the next debate.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)

154 It's a very complicated issue, indeed, especially given my family's direct experience with Mr. Shickelgruber.

Along with the German-run death camps that were all in Poland, the Baltics, Ukraine, Moldova and Belarus are essentially a vast mass grave. While attitudes have certainly changed, sadly a lot of anti-semitic attitudes that pre-date the war by hundreds of years still exist and are still passed on to younger generations, despite the fact that the Jews of Eastern Europe have been all but wiped out.

That said, I try to take people one at a time and given the current politics, I am grateful to have Eastern Europe on our side as real allies.

Anyway, the worst Jew-hate is in France, England, Spain and western Europe. And right here in New York fucking city.

Ugh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 11:51 AM (s2VJv)

Europe is basically a history of Jew hate. I think it was Longshanks that kicked the Jews out of Europe. And heck part of the thing about why the Inquisition in Spain happened and went on so long is because the Jews were still living there and you had converts to Christianity either being secret Jews or accused of being secret Jews and only much further into the Inquisition did they start following what the rest of Europe had done earlier in kicking out the Jews.

No European country's hands are clean.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 12:00 PM (vMCab)

155 Yes I believe so. I haven't played it yet.
Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 11:55 AM (vMCab)

It's pretty good. Feels big but unfinished, like an indy game that hit it big and they had to scramble to get it ready to ship. No showstoppers, some interface annoyances, and some things that look like they had big plans for it but never got to wring out the balance. Like the healing items - they have stacks of different little items that buff different skills, but you'd drive yourself mad trying to remember when to use what. The good news is that I've spammed myself with, say, mental buffs to get my lockpick skill up enough to beat a lock, and failed, and it takes less time to wait for poisoning to wear off than it would to dig through my inventory and find the immunity buff. So it's complicated, but it doesn't matter in the least anyway.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:01 PM (t+qrx)

156
Yes I believe so. I haven't played it yet.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 11:55 AM

my daughter played it; she keeps telling me I should, too

we finally recovered the Firefly boxed set & started watching it the other day; she kept saying "...this is just like The Outer Worlds..."

chicken / egg: some juxtaposition required

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 17, 2020 12:01 PM (4+Ec2)

157
"They may take our land, but they will never take our golabki!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2020 12:01 PM (mht8P)

158 Ex-UK ambassador's CNN squeeze bikini pics:

OK, hard to blame the guy.

Posted by: pep at October 17, 2020 12:01 PM (v16oJ)

159 I'm white, Male, AND Polish American. I'm doomed, doomed I tells ya!
Posted by: SacredCow at October 17, 2020 11:47 AM (D4VQX)

Nonsense, this is 2020, none of those things, except possibly the Polish part, are unchangeable.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:01 PM (hku12)

160 My ancestry is 100% Polish. I laugh at Polish jokes. However, I know that Polish people aren't 100% stupid and yes I've spent plenty of time at the PNA and you find a lot of different people there. Brilliant to so stupid they can't get through doors and around corners. You know, just like any other ethnicity.
Fuck off Biden.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 17, 2020 12:01 PM (PgmdM)

161 Wow, what a performance by Anastasia Huppmann. I'm gonna watch it again and put the sound on this time.

Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 17, 2020 12:01 PM (lRrON)

162 155 Yes I believe so. I haven't played it yet.
Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 11:55 AM (vMCab)

It's pretty good. Feels big but unfinished, like an indy game that hit it big and they had to scramble to get it ready to ship. No showstoppers, some interface annoyances, and some things that look like they had big plans for it but never got to wring out the balance. Like the healing items - they have stacks of different little items that buff different skills, but you'd drive yourself mad trying to remember when to use what. The good news is that I've spammed myself with, say, mental buffs to get my lockpick skill up enough to beat a lock, and failed, and it takes less time to wait for poisoning to wear off than it would to dig through my inventory and find the immunity buff. So it's complicated, but it doesn't matter in the least anyway.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:01 PM (t+qrx)

Obsidian isn't a Triple A game dev so that's understandable. They probably would be now though since you know, Microsoft.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 12:02 PM (vMCab)

163 we finally recovered the Firefly boxed set & started watching it the other day; she kept saying "...this is just like The Outer Worlds..."

chicken / egg: some juxtaposition required
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 17, 2020 12:01 PM (4+Ec2)

Parvati is a not-even-disguised Kaylee.

Not that I'm complaining, mind.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:02 PM (t+qrx)

164 Yeah, the Red Army halted at the Vistula so the Nazis could finish their mop-up operation, while both knew the headlong rush by the victorious Soviets would commence immediately afterward.

One of the more surreal moments in a surreal war.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 12:02 PM (eXmcp)

165 My ancestry is 100% Polish. I laugh at Polish jokes. However, I know that Polish people aren't 100% stupid and yes I've spent plenty of time at the PNA and you find a lot of different people there. Brilliant to so stupid they can't get through doors and around corners. You know, just like any other ethnicity.
Fuck off Biden.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 17, 2020 12:01 PM (PgmdM)

You gotta wonder though, which little nugget of possibly true memory is back there among the cobwebs, where a Polish dude put Joe in his place.

I mean really, why Polish.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:03 PM (hku12)

166 As for the healing items and the skill buffs in it. That sounds basically like Fall Out and their drugs and items. So you know it makes sense, due to Obsidian's pedigree of working on New Vegas and history with pre-Bethesda Fall Out.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 12:04 PM (vMCab)

167
at least The Outer Worlds is set in space

how do you have a game called "Skyrim" what's not set in space? It's maddening, I tells ya

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 17, 2020 12:04 PM (4+Ec2)

168

No European country's hands are clean
================
With all that kicking people out, neither are their feet.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2020 12:04 PM (3iAUW)

169 There is one mission in The Outer Worlds standard storyline side mission where you help your ships engineer/mechanic (if you recruit her) prepare for her Big Gay Date.

I didn't care for that, as there was no option to just throw everyone out the airlock.

Posted by: Jozef Pilsudski at October 17, 2020 12:05 PM (Q1JQ9)

170 Polish are genetically not stupid. SCIENCE

Posted by: Menack at October 17, 2020 12:05 PM (buTO7)

171 Tim Pool
at_Timcast

i used to be more in favor of gun control until riots swept across the US and police were defunded and demoralized

then i went and bought guns and now will not vote for anyone trying to restrict my right to keep myself safe

https://bit.ly/3dEcRn8

I wonder how many other Americans are waking up to the difference of supporting a policy in theory and seeing how policies work in reality.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 17, 2020 12:07 PM (Do5/p)

172 Mom's side Hungarian. She and her sisters, a brother and mother wound up in Mauthausen, another sister survived Auschwitz, one brother was actually a political prisoner and another brother was in Nordhausen building V-2s. Her father I think was in hiding.

********

Thanks. G-d Bless them.

I had the distinct privilege of visiting Hungary in the early 90's shortly after the Wall came down as part of an official military medical (goodwill) conference. In general (while hoping to avoid overly broad conclusions) the people seemed vibrant and strong-willed. I think along with Poland, Hungary was a glimmer of light from behind the Iron Curtain.

There was a family of Hungarian Christians who settled in my hometown after escaping from Hungary in '56. Good people who became close friends with my parents. I used to work part-time ~~picking~~ eating peaches in their orchard.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 12:07 PM (m45I2)

173 I didn't care for that, as there was no option to just throw everyone out the airlock.
Posted by: Jozef Pilsudski at October 17, 2020 12:05 PM (Q1JQ9)

Sure thing, Javik.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:07 PM (t+qrx)

174
NPR headine: Analysis: Questionable 'N.Y. Post' Scoop Driven by Ex-Hannity Producer, Giuliani

Shoot the messenger

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2020 12:07 PM (mht8P)

175 Wow, what a performance by Anastasia Huppmann. I'm gonna watch it again and put the sound on this time.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 17, 2020 12:01 PM (lRrON)

I really dislike the jump cut video. She's a lovely woman. Show her playing. Stop with the multiple cameras already.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:07 PM (hku12)

176 172 Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 12:07 PM (m45I2)

Cheers. And by the way, your posts on the Chinese Lung AIDS are outstanding. Thanks for those.

And the limericks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 12:08 PM (s2VJv)

177 My mom's side is Litvak, and I look the part to a tee, but I guess that means they were "sometimes Polish, subject to change without notice."

Dad's side is Russian.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 12:08 PM (eXmcp)

178 169 There is one mission in The Outer Worlds standard storyline side mission where you help your ships engineer/mechanic (if you recruit her) prepare for her Big Gay Date.

I didn't care for that, as there was no option to just throw everyone out the airlock.
Posted by: Jozef Pilsudski at October 17, 2020 12:05 PM (Q1JQ9)

I really don't care if their are gay characters in games. And this is the first I've heard of it so it sounds like its not a big part of her character personality. Its when the game gets super pandering about it. And the fact that the people on youtube I watch that do catch this kind of stuff never mentioned it tells me its nothing too big.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 12:08 PM (vMCab)

179 >> This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread

Setting up the dramatic transition.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at October 17, 2020 12:08 PM (uWF4x)

180 So no Pole Trolls on this thread, eh?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 12:09 PM (m45I2)

181
Father's side of the family is Slovak, Polish and Hungarian (Michalovce in the Carpathians).

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2020 12:09 PM (mht8P)

182
As I get older, the incredible miracle that an entire family of 9 people survived intact hits me harder.

^^^ Wow, yes indeed. Definately a feel good story.

Posted by: Iris at October 17, 2020 12:09 PM (6lKe4)

183
Gotta get back to work. It's not like I have Bill Ayers to writer for me now, do I?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 12:09 PM (s2VJv)

184 So no Pole Trolls on this thread, eh?
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 12:09 PM (m45I2)

The Cobskis are busy Chopin them down.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:10 PM (hku12)

185 Father's side of the family is Slovak, Polish and Hungarian (Michalovce in the Carpathians).

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2020 12:09 PM (mht8P)

Hail Vigo!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 12:10 PM (DLzZd)

186 164 Yeah, the Red Army halted at the Vistula so the Nazis could finish their mop-up operation, while both knew the headlong rush by the victorious Soviets would commence immediately afterward.

One of the more surreal moments in a surreal war.

---------

Yep. In the summer of '44 the Russians' Operation Bagration had destroyed the Germans' Army Group Center, the Western Allies had successfully landed in France and were headed eastward, and Germany's cities were being bombed to rubble, but the Germans allotted resources to put down a Jewish uprising in Warsaw.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 12:10 PM (wPVhA)

187 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 12:08 PM (s2VJv)

********

I appreciate the kind words.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 12:10 PM (m45I2)

188 How many democrats does it take to swindle the US taxpayers out of millions and millions of dollars and fall asleep with a meth pipe in their mouths?

Posted by: Polish Comedian at October 17, 2020 12:11 PM (Z+IKu)

189 Wife is 100% Slovak. She has the few recipes her baba wrote down.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 12:11 PM (89T5c)

190 And the fact that the people on youtube I watch that do catch this kind of stuff never mentioned it tells me its nothing too big.
Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 12:08 PM (vMCab)

It's an optional fetch quest. As far as I can tell, taking it or leaving it only affects her part of the ending.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:12 PM (t+qrx)

191 Budapest is some helluva town. Very fun. That one giant subway station is a trip, though... Don't do that escalator drunk, it's disorienting enough sober.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 12:12 PM (eXmcp)

192 BTW here in Ohio I saw a Trump ad on tv today. Not too long after a Biden ad. So for all the talk of him pulling ads in Ohio, he clearly hasn't pulled all of them.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 12:12 PM (vMCab)

193 So no Pole Trolls on this thread, eh?
Posted by: Muldoon
----
No, but I hear insomniac is bringing an otter to the TXMoMe and is planning some type of surprise show...or something along those lines. At least that's what I got from the end of the last thread.

Posted by: lin-duh en nui! at October 17, 2020 12:12 PM (n5CNg)

194 So they purposely chose to switch to a coalition with less voters in it.

Well thanks!

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2020 12:13 PM (5p7BC)

195 The history of jews in Europe: Some Sephardic jewish ancestry found through dna tests for what it's worth if accurate or not. But what really made me realize that I very likely have Sephardic ancestors was finding that the Zamora area in Spain had a well known jewish population history. That's were my grandmother came from. Also her last name was one of the Sephardic last names currently recognized by the Spanish government in granting citizenship. Other little bits and pieces in genetics and family folklore and that's what makes us interesting I think.

Posted by: Floridachick at October 17, 2020 12:13 PM (fIkro)

196 When Trump is re elected he needs to defund the NPR.

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at October 17, 2020 12:14 PM (P4Pk9)

197 I just got a text message from Doug Ducey (I could tell because the first line was "It's Doug Ducey!"). Apparently he's very excited about me donating money.

Anybody know who that is?

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:14 PM (t+qrx)

198 >> All white guys are just basically,
>> they don't give a damn about women.

Biden's comments always reveal how Biden himself thinks.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at October 17, 2020 12:14 PM (uWF4x)

199 I learned yesterday there is a town in WV called Big Otter.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 12:15 PM (89T5c)

200 Taking dogs to the get be expensive!!! You have to wait in the car. Then they call you about 5 times. Still costs $450+
Damn UTI's!

Posted by: lin-duh en nui! at October 17, 2020 12:15 PM (n5CNg)

201 Pops hates poloks. Also spics, beaners, you know who and red sea pedestrians. Likes chink money though...

Posted by: Hunter Biteme at October 17, 2020 12:15 PM (CNTlw)

202 ""Progressive" Democrats put people in demographic buckets"

aka Bigotry. But Dems plan to drive their narrative via talking points and repetition -- as with "blacks must vote Dem, and hate cops, and adore drug dealer criminals made saints.

Trayvon, GentleGiant Brown of Ferguson, Freddie in Baltimore set the trend .. a dozen fabricated martyrs, always drug dealing thugs ... good grief, that is not what holds black communities together. Drugs and praise of "the gangster life" is their main problem.

Mayor Berry got reelected after serving six months for drugs, and he was still mayor during his trial. But DC is not Rust Belt America, where blacks work with the rest of us, and lost jobs to China with us as well.

The other half of that is "Trump voters are deplorable, irredeemable, racist, homophobe ..." ... a line repeated by Hillary several times, obviously scripted. Now continued with the "Trump called the KKK Good People" lie, and "Trump Voters are ALL white supremacists" smears and threats. False but driven like a jackhammer by the MFM.

This is cult like behavior ... "all outsiders are evil (and stupid). Here is our strict dogma, you must be devoted to every point, or you are a sinner (sinning against the leftist dogma)." imo they misjudge the gullibility of the black "neighborhood" in thinking they can control it with their narrative (as Joe demands). They have failed for too long, current lies and violence too outrageous? (I hope, and God Bless Poland, a last stand for liberty in Europe?)

Posted by: illiniwek at October 17, 2020 12:16 PM (Cus5s)

203 You are kind of hoping that Trump goes against his
nature. It might be a good strategy but that's not how he operates for
good or ill. He is a bull in the china shop and when he thinks he sees
the opportunity to attack he will move in even if others think the
proper strategy is to let him keep talking.

I agree for the most part but I think he let his anger get a bit out
of control during the first debate. Understandable since he has known
all this stuff was coming out about Biden and he knows he was part of
the coup attempt but he kind of bailed Biden out and made him
sympathetic to some.

It has to be frustrating as hell given what he goes through every
damn day with the media while the same media protects and shields Biden
from his obvious issues and lies. But Biden is his own worst enemy, the
more he talks the more damage he does to himself.

I hope he dials it down a notch in the next debate.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 12:00 PM

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Me too. Trump lost 6 points post debate with rasmussen. That was a huge drop and he is barely making it back up. He stands at 48% now but another debate performance like the first will sink his chances in November.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 17, 2020 12:16 PM (JUOKG)

204 I just got a text message from Doug Ducey (I could tell because the first line was "It's Doug Ducey!"). Apparently he's very excited about me donating money.

Anybody know who that is?
Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:14 PM (t+qrx)

AZ Governor, I think.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 12:16 PM (89T5c)

205 120 How many performance artists does it take to change a lightbulb?

Two.

One to hold the llama and one to throw the multicolored power tools in the bathtub.
Posted by: Captain Obvious

Some classy art thread stuff, right here!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 17, 2020 12:16 PM (NptwJ)

206 Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 17, 2020 11:57 AM

Late 1970s Soviets still insisted it was the Nazis

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 12:16 PM (OjZpE)

207 I learned yesterday there is a town in WV called Big Otter.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

That was a surprise I bet.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 17, 2020 12:17 PM (Rvt88)

208 AZ Governor, I think.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 12:16 PM (89T5c)

Oh.

I hope he understands that I've got enough shit to deal with in Michigan at the moment. Nothing personal.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:17 PM (t+qrx)

209 I had been wondering who that "backroom chatter about trying to save the Senate" was sourced from by Erikson.

I think it is clear now that the source is Sasse.

He's going to be pretty surprised on Nov 4th.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2020 12:18 PM (5p7BC)

210 I saw a documentary the other day, After Hitler, about the immediate post war years in Europe. Scores were settled. A brutal peace.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 17, 2020 11:27 AM (+y/Ru)

I did a swing thru Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic in '97. Things were still quite raw. Met a beautiful Czech woman who had escaped when she was a young teen. Emigrated to America where she attended college. She had gone back to take a job in international banking. I asked her what it was like to come back. She got a very cold and scary look in her eye and said essentially the same thing: "There were scores to be settled. A lot of family members had...disappeared."

Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2020 12:18 PM (axyOa)

211 Father's side from Bavaria region. Mother's side is mixed Scots/Polish.

So, I'm frugal and emotionally excitable and will start marching around when upset.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 12:19 PM (DLzZd)

212
No European country's hands are clean.
Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 12:00 PM (vMCab)

the saddest historical irony is that Central Germany, having no large government but instead a large number of small principalities, was the safest and most welcoming area for Jews to live up until the 20th century. That's why the population was so high.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 12:20 PM (V2Yro)

213 https://twitter.com/IWV/status/1317482299810873344

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2020 12:20 PM (oVJmc)

214 So, I'm frugal and emotionally excitable and will start marching around when upset.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 12:19 PM (DLzZd)

You should write fortune cookies.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:20 PM (t+qrx)

215
I just wanted to post a quick reminder ( as I am reading the EMT...) we are all Morons and should treat each other with respect. We may see things differently at times but that shouldn't stop us from being civil to one another.

That said....if there IS a flame war...make damn sure it's EPIC.

That is all.

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at October 17, 2020 12:21 PM (IJle1)

216 I just got a text message from Doug Ducey (I could tell because the first line was "It's Doug Ducey!"). Apparently he's very excited about me donating money.

Anybody know who that is?
Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:14 PM (t+qrx)

Played the kid in ET. He was so precious then. Now, not so much.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:21 PM (hku12)

217 Back from Best Buy for my TV. The idiots at the door accepted my doctor's note, but then said, "Nobody will wait on you, and you can't check out."

I blinked. "You mean I can't buy anything, because I have a medical condition?"

"Uh . . ."

"You are telling me you don't want my money."

"Corporate policy, sir."

"Stupidest thing I've heard today," I said, and walked out. I wish I'd thought to say, "Remember what happened to Circuit City, Silo, and HH Gregg -- but Amazon and Walmart are still here."

I suppose I'll have to try them, if Target is similarly stupid. Anybody know? I don't want to buy a TV I haven't actually seen the picture on.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 17, 2020 12:21 PM (rpbg1)

218
The Democratic Party has reached out to underemployed college educated men and women with green and purple hair who went into debt getting useless degrees that featured indoctrination in Marxism and ant-American alternative reality. Easily recruited to paid activism, paid street fighting, and government jobs. Counting on Joe to disappear their student loans. Eager to take revenge on the non-mutants.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 17, 2020 12:21 PM (t5m5e)

219 yeah, the thing about no math, how about no smart stuff in the morning?

stay with pics, snark, coffee.

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:22 PM (4Jold)

220 that alien finger messed him up bigly

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:23 PM (4Jold)

221 Me too. Trump lost 6 points post debate with rasmussen. That was a huge drop and he is barely making it back up. He stands at 48% now but another debate performance like the first will sink his chances in November.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 17, 2020 12:16 PM (JUOKG)

as we were saying earlier, there's no way there will be another debate. Not now. Don't know what reason will be given for canceling it, but it doesn't matter, it will be canceled.

Pence did a good job, our best hope is that everyone remembers his debate and just forgets about the fiasco with Chris Wallace.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 12:24 PM (V2Yro)

222 Back from Best Buy for my TV. The idiots at the
door accepted my doctor's note, but then said, "Nobody will wait on you,
and you can't check out."

I blinked. "You mean I can't buy anything, because I have a medical condition?"

"Uh . . ."

"You are telling me you don't want my money."

"Corporate policy, sir."

"Stupidest thing I've heard today," I said, and walked out. I wish
I'd thought to say, "Remember what happened to Circuit City, Silo, and
HH Gregg -- but Amazon and Walmart are still here."

I suppose I'll have to try them, if Target is similarly stupid.
Anybody know? I don't want to buy a TV I haven't actually seen the
picture on.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 17, 2020 12:21 PM

---

You can't even go into the best buy here. You have to order on line, drive up and give them your email order number stuff and they will bring it out to you.

No one gets in the door and the geek squad has been temporarily disbanded.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 17, 2020 12:24 PM (JUOKG)

223 Father's side from Bavaria region. Mother's side is mixed Scots/Polish.

So, I'm frugal and emotionally excitable and will start marching around when upset.
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 12:19 PM (DLzZd)

And I bet the bier is good too!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2020 12:24 PM (axyOa)

224 AZ Governor, I think.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 12:16 PM (89T5c)

Oh.

I hope he understands that I've got enough shit to deal with in Michigan at the moment. Nothing personal.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:17 PM (t+qrx)

And he ain't running this year, so what kind of grift is he pulling?

Seems to me his time and effort would be better served trying to keep the seat he gave to McSally.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:24 PM (hku12)

225 I have an Uncle whose name is "Stanley Kielbasa", which I rate as one of The Most Polish of Polish Names.

I am proud of my round-faced, pasty-white Polish heritage, don't get me wrong. But "Stanley Kielbasa is just a ridiculous name.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 12:24 PM (Qio/u)

226 217

"Nobody will wait on you, and you can't check out."

I blinked. "You mean I can't buy anything, because I have a medical condition?"

"Uh . . ."

"You are telling me you don't want my money."

"Corporate policy, sir."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 17, 2020 12:21 PM

"You're telling me that your corporate policy is to not make money.

That's a bold strategy, let's see how that works out for you."

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 17, 2020 12:24 PM (Do5/p)

227 Father's side from Bavaria region. Mother's side is mixed Scots/Polish.

So, I'm frugal and emotionally excitable and will start marching around when upset.
Posted by: Count de Monet at Octobe

must be fun when you get overcharged for dinner

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:25 PM (4Jold)

228 >> 96 When Trump is re elected he needs to defund the NPR.

NPR will never be run like a business. The shrieking as they go under will be deafening. Lefties will never fund NPR. "That's the government's job!" they'll say. Lefties are the cheapest and most impractical people on earth.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at October 17, 2020 12:25 PM (uWF4x)

229 And I bet the bier is good too!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2020 12:24 PM (axyOa)

Ja!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 12:25 PM (DLzZd)

230 151
That's a misreading of history. Actually the Soviets were very kind to
and appreciative of the Polish military so much so that they took many
thousands of them them to a picnic in the Katyn forest. They enjoyed it
so much they didn't come back.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 17, 2020 11:57 AM (LBiyC)

Indeed. My husband watched "The Last Witness" the other night. It is, however, not PC to think of Poles as victims.

Posted by: CN

The Poles were certainly caught between a rock and a hard place. They did their bit in the airforce, my friend's uncle was Witold Lokuciewski Ace in WW2. My friend's son was flying commercial one time and the pilot asked for him to visit the cockpit after seing his name on the passenger list. I admire the heroes and those who remember them.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 17, 2020 12:26 PM (LBiyC)

231 I suppose I'll have to try them, if Target is similarly stupid. Anybody know? I don't want to buy a TV I haven't actually seen the picture on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 17, 2020 12:21 PM (rpbg1)

I use Best Buy to be able to walk in and compare models, see which one suits me best. Then I go home and order what I want from Amazon, cheaper and they deliver it to my house for free.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 12:26 PM (V2Yro)

232 >>as we were saying earlier, there's no way there will be another debate. Not now. Don't know what reason will be given for canceling it, but it doesn't matter, it will be canceled.

>>Pence did a good job, our best hope is that everyone remembers his debate and just forgets about the fiasco with Chris Wallace.

I don't think it hurt him that bad. He is winning right now and if the debate is cancelled it will look bad for Joe no matter what the media says.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 12:26 PM (ZLI7S)

233 No one gets in the door and the geek squad has been temporarily disbanded.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at Octobe

fbi hardest hit

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:26 PM (4Jold)

234 I'm repeating myself...But local and national news is now saying Hunter, who is Hunter. We don't care about him, but have you heard the latest about Trump! Dump the dope, is the new battle cry.

Posted by: Colin at October 17, 2020 12:26 PM (0R8Gj)

235 Biden owes his entire career to a Media unwilling to cover him, but more than willing to cover up for him.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 17, 2020 12:27 PM (l9m7l)

236 And he ain't running this year, so what kind of grift is he pulling?

Seems to me his time and effort would be better served trying to keep the seat he gave to McSally.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:24 PM (hku12)

It's probably collecting for a PAC or for that seat exactly. I just get enough of them that I reflexively delete them now, but they usually mention someone I've at least heard of.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:27 PM (t+qrx)

237 must be fun when you get overcharged for dinner

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:25 PM (4Jold)

Goosestepping time!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 12:27 PM (DLzZd)

238
"Nobody will wait on you, and you can't check out."

How about if I just walk out with it? Will they suddenly become brave?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (oVJmc)

239 Trump should pull out a pistol and offer one to Biden.

20 paces

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (pB6Gt)

240 NPR will never be run like a business. The shrieking as they go under will be deafening. Lefties will never fund NPR. "That's the government's job!" they'll say. Lefties are the cheapest and most impractical people on earth.
Posted by: 40 Miles North at October 17, 2020 12:25 PM (uWF4x)

Yeah, it's the Governments Job to run subsidized radio stations for rich white people. Sure it is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (V2Yro)

241 225
I have an Uncle whose name is "Stanley Kielbasa", which I rate as one of The Most Polish of Polish Names.

I am proud of my round-faced, pasty-white Polish heritage, don't get me wrong. But "Stanley Kielbasa is just a ridiculous name.

Posted by: Sharkman
I'lll bet his wife called him a silly sausage.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (LBiyC)

242 In the middle of the complete destruction of the Third Reich and the German State, Hans Frank had illustrators brought from Germany to Poland to make a real time illuminated manuscript detailing his suppression of Warsaw as a gift for the Fuhrer. Absolutely as bizarre as anything in "Downfall."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (eXmcp)

243 The Kenosha County prosecutor has dropped three of the four charges against Mr. Warning Shot Guy Who Was Walking With His Wife Before Fleeing The Scene. The only charge that remains is disorderly conduct.

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (a3we3)

244 I don't know why everyone is so upset about the Wallace debate. Yeah, Trump was a bit aggressive, but hell, it was two against one. I really don't think it was all that bad anyway.

Here's the important thing: Do you know a single person who voted for Trump in 2016 who is not going to vote for him in 2020? Not likely. Then add in all the people who did write-ins or didn't vote at all because they were wary of Trump. He has delivered on numerous promises. Those people are with us now and will vote for him.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (sGotD)

245 Trump should pull out a pistol and offer one to Biden.

20 paces
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (pB6Gt)

Biden's handlers should offer one to Hunter, along with a few minutes alone in a quiet room.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:29 PM (t+qrx)

246 Goosestepping time!
Posted by: Count de Monet at Octobe

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:29 PM (4Jold)

247
When you eat at a German-Mexican restaurant, you want to invade Poland, tomorrow.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2020 12:29 PM (mht8P)

248 Hope everyone has a good day. What does Salty say "strike fear in the heart of leftists everywhere"?

Anyone, I'm actually off to a celebration of JPII at the JPII center. So really enjoyed the Polish thread.
:-)

Posted by: Iris at October 17, 2020 12:29 PM (6lKe4)

249 Biden's handlers should offer one to Hunter, along with a few minutes alone in a quiet room.
Posted by: hogmartin at Octobe

he has been invited to fort marcy

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:30 PM (4Jold)

250 I'm male, white, Catholic, pro life, pro 2a, Veteran. I know exactly where the dims hold me. They hate me and everything i believe. They want me dead. I have no illusions they would ever accept me if they had all the power. Throw in oldish and disabled and i would be one of the first into the oven, for my own good.

Posted by: USNtakim at October 17, 2020 12:30 PM (0OmEj)

251 Now, we dance the Mamushka!

Posted by: Fuckball Z at October 17, 2020 12:30 PM (CNTlw)

252 So, I'm a second generation Polish American. From the Detroit area, which has a very large Polish population. Most are in Macomb County, which is the home of Reagan Democrats.

In 2016, Trump won Macomb County. I was surprised, since the area is very union/ Catholic/ Democrat. He is not doing himself any favors by saying things like this.

That being said, it will never be reported. So it didn't happen. Just like Hunter's connections with China.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 17, 2020 12:31 PM (ZCiJZ)

253 I don't think it hurt him that bad. He is winning right now and if the debate is cancelled it will look bad for Joe no matter what the media says.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 12:26 PM (ZLI7S)

I agree with you on that. I just don't think Joe will have a choice. Probably his side demands ground rules where Trump is never allowed to whisper the word "Hunter", and Trump can never agree to that.

The two sides hate each other so much now there's no way they can stand on the same stage and pretend to be civil.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 12:31 PM (V2Yro)

254 When you eat at a German-Mexican restaurant, you want to invade Poland, tomorrow.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2020 12:29 PM (mht8P)

Good one!

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 12:31 PM (DLzZd)

255 https://thefederalist.com/the biden emails prove impeachment was a-sham
https://tinyurl.com/y2xzk9ad

Short reminder what the impeachment was about.
Sure went down the rabbit hole fast, no one even brings it up anymore.

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 12:31 PM (OjZpE)

256 >>Here's the important thing: Do you know a single person who voted for Trump in 2016 who is not going to vote for him in 2020? Not likely. Then add in all the people who did write-ins or didn't vote at all because they were wary of Trump. He has delivered on numerous promises. Those people are with us now and will vote for him.

I agree. Why anyone would believe the fake media polls when we all know how corrupt they are is a mystery.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)

257 I think the debate helped Trump. It was the start of really driving home how unfair the media has been to him, and amped up turnout. Which is what is winning the election for him right now.

It also knocked Biden off his game. They had "heart warming moments" preplanned that were going to be shown by every news outlet to show what a unifier Biden would be.

That strategy has been burned to the ground.

You may not have liked the debate, but it helped Trump.

The Rasmussen results are not an indication of the true state of the race.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2020 12:32 PM (5p7BC)

258
When NPR has a beg-a-thon, they moan that government funding is a pittance.

When anyone suggests cutting funding to NPR, they moan that public support is a pittance.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2020 12:32 PM (mht8P)

259 Being a native Chicagoan, I acquired a taste for Polish sausage.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at October 17, 2020 12:33 PM (jacU8)

260 I don't think that Trump did poorly in the first debate. Given how shook up Wallace was I'd say that Trump took it to the left. Yes, Trump is a fighter and a bull in a china shop. That's reason one I like the man. Maybe those post debate polls had an exaggerated number of green haired Karen's or wine suburban moms. Who knows.

Posted by: Floridachick at October 17, 2020 12:33 PM (fIkro)

261 Sauerbraten enchiladas.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2020 12:33 PM (89T5c)

262 Cheers. And by the way, your posts on the Chinese Lung AIDS are outstanding. Thanks for those.

And the limericks.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 12:08 PM (s2VJv)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 17, 2020 12:08 PM (s2VJv)

********

I appreciate the kind words.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 12:10 PM (m45I2)

Would you two like a room?

* ducks *

Posted by: db at October 17, 2020 12:33 PM (E0PSG)

263 I agree. Why anyone would believe the fake media polls when we all know how corrupt they are is a mystery.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I can prove they are wrong. Badly wrong.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2020 12:33 PM (5p7BC)

264 Biden's handlers should offer one to Hunter, along with a few minutes alone in a quiet room.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:29 PM (t+qrx)

Ah yes. The old Ernst Rohm gambit. With only one round in the chamber.

Posted by: Old Blue at October 17, 2020 12:33 PM (VNmG1)

265 "Nobody will wait on you, and you can't check out."

How about if I just walk out with it? Will they suddenly become brave?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (oVJmc)

I'm reminded of a case I read about somewhere where a guy tried to resolve a contentious debt by writing out a check on the side of a live pig. The guy who was owed the money refused to take it and sued him. The court, having verified all the necessary information to clear the transaction had in fact been written on the pig ruled that a fair attempt at payment had been made and threw the case out.

Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2020 12:33 PM (kOpft)

266 And he ain't running this year, so what kind of grift is he pulling?

Seems to me his time and effort would be better served trying to keep the seat he gave to McSally.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:24 PM (hku12)

It's probably collecting for a PAC or for that seat exactly. I just get enough of them that I reflexively delete them now, but they usually mention someone I've at least heard of.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:27 PM (t+qrx)

What's nice is, if you move away from one area code, but keep your number, all the calls/texts that come from locals, here, I know who they are, even if I don't recognize the number, and all the call/texts coming from the old area, if I don't recognzie your number, I don't know you, I don't need you. I don't answer, and I don't read your texts.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:33 PM (hku12)

267 The Outer Worlds has been available on Game Pass for PC for a while now. It's probably not worth it if you don't also have an Xbox, but maybe with the Bethesda purchase it will be a better value in the future.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at October 17, 2020 12:34 PM (uhPTO)

268 Debates deschmates, polls, schmolls

No way biden is winning anything, anywhere, ever

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:34 PM (4Jold)

269 254
When you eat at a German-Mexican restaurant, you want to invade Poland, tomorrow.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2020 12:29 PM (mht8P)

Good one!

Posted by: Count de Monet

When you eat at a German-Chinese restaurant you want to invade Poland again a half hour later.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 17, 2020 12:34 PM (LBiyC)

270 the saddest historical irony is that Central Germany, having no large government but instead a large number of small principalities, was the safest and most welcoming area for Jews to live up until the 20th century. That's why the population was so high.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 12:20 PM (V2Yro)

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If you stretched a net across the road in 1929 and caught 100 Europeans and told them "in ten years, a heavily militarized Great Power will be storming across Europe, with one of their core goals being the final annihilation of the Jew," all 100 would've said, "oh, dammit, those wacky French." Nobody would have imagined it would be the Germans. Too out of character.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 12:35 PM (eXmcp)

271 I dated him for Mexican German chick one time. I called her il celita, she chupacabra of the SS. We broke up after she sent me to stabbed me in my sleep and sent me to a concentration camp...

Posted by: Fuckball Z at October 17, 2020 12:35 PM (CNTlw)

272 In deep blue Southern California, overnight appeared Trump and Blue Lives Matter flags installed on the every light pole along the Esplanade in Redondo Beach. A mile plus!

Posted by: LASue at October 17, 2020 12:35 PM (Ed8Zd)

273 must be fun when you get overcharged for dinner
Or his wife says she wants to enlarge the living-room!

Posted by: andycanuck at October 17, 2020 12:35 PM (an7Mv)

274 In the summer of 1944, after the fall of Rome, my did's unit spent a couple of months regrouping and refitting down around Naples before they were transferred to southern France to advance up the Rhone valley and join the southern flank of the Allied forces below Strasbourg.

His diary during that interval included some updates on the overall progress of the Allied forces, including this:

July24 1944
Went with Col Lemley to 937th, 977th, [FA Bn's] and 36th Gp today. Had quite a long visit with Van in the San Antonio Rose - what a buggy. It was a dirty trip - hot and dusty. The dust here is as bad as Texas.
5th Army is in Pisa now and not too far from Florence. The Normandy beachhead is starting to expand. Rumor has it the 142d [FA Bn] was cited for outstanding performance. Russians have four armies converging on Warsaw with a break through to the Baltic Sea imminent. Rumor is still rampant of revolt in Germany.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2020 12:35 PM (m45I2)

275 So is Best Buy locking out because of Covid-19 totally or for suspicion of?

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 12:35 PM (OjZpE)

276 Wow, what a performance by Anastasia Huppmann. I'm gonna watch it again and put the sound on this time.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy

Valentina Lasitsa did a recording the Rachmaninov piano concertos w/the London Symphony. (Spoiler: they're excellent!) She bankrolled it herself, thus wanted actual rehearsal and recording time to be minimal.

So she recorded the solo piano at home and sent it to the conductor so he could study and become familiar with her interpretation, and then they recorded the whole thing in like two-three days.

Those solo performances are all up on youtube. Here's the 1st movement of the 3rd. https://tinyurl.com/c7raccd
Search "lisitsa rach solo" to find the rest, if you're interested.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 17, 2020 12:35 PM (YqED9)

277 "All white guys are just basically, they don't give a damn about women."
-Joe Biden

"Exhibit A: your son Hunter."
-me

Posted by: Experting Expert Tom Nichols at October 17, 2020 12:36 PM (FPur3)

278 252
So, I'm a second generation Polish American. From the Detroit area,
which has a very large Polish population. Most are in Macomb County,
which is the home of Reagan Democrats.

In 2016, Trump won Macomb
County. I was surprised, since the area is very union/ Catholic/
Democrat. He is not doing himself any favors by saying things like this.

That being said, it will never be reported. So it didn't happen. Just like Hunter's connections with China.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World

That's what campaign ads are for.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 17, 2020 12:36 PM (LBiyC)

279 must be fun when you get overcharged for dinner
Or his wife says she wants to enlarge the living-room!
Posted by: andycanuck at Octobe

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:36 PM (4Jold)

280 Could the case be made that there were cadres from ALL the conquered territories/countries that worked hand in hand with the nazis?

Posted by: Tonypete

Unfortunately, yes. Poland perhaps more than other countries.

Poland was also the first place in the East that Hitler specifically targeted with his intentional policy of murdering as many occupants, whether Jewish or not, in order to create Lebensraum for Germans to move into.

So the Poles paid dearly for their perfidy. As did most of the countries East of Germany.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 12:36 PM (Qio/u)

281 >>The Rasmussen results are not an indication of the true state of the race.

I like Trafalgar for the swing states. They were the only pollster to call Michigan correctly in 2016.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 12:36 PM (ZLI7S)

282 "All white guys are just basically, they don't give a damn about women."
-Joe Biden

yeah, just a bunch of knuckl warmers

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:37 PM (4Jold)

283 When you eat at a German-Chinese restaurant you want to invade Poland again a half hour later.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 17, 2020 12:34 PM (LBiyC)

And a new AoSHQ joke meme is born.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 12:37 PM (DLzZd)

284 I can prove they are wrong. Badly wrong.
Posted by: Dave in Fla

If the polls were wrong, we wouldn't get paid, would we? They reflect exactly what we and the DNC want you to believe.

Posted by: The MFM at October 17, 2020 12:37 PM (oBAbT)

285 Back in 2011, I quoted AJP Taylor on the combination of the ethnic divisions and excessive centralization in the Austro-Hungarian Empire

Great argument for limited government.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 12:38 PM (q+fko)

286 A family friend (female) went to Great Britain about 20 years ago as part of a year-long exchange program. Unfortunately now I can't remember where exactly, but in the country not downtown London.

She's jewish, and the folks at her school found that fascinating, they'd never met any jews before her arrival.

One day someone asked her to pull her hair back. She found it odd but whatever, she pulled her hair back. The person wanted to see her ears, because they had been told all jews had pointy ears. Like Spock?

This wasn't a hundred years ago, this was 20 years ago. Yeah, she was more than a little nervous for the rest of her time there.

Posted by: Boots at October 17, 2020 12:38 PM (oGBso)

287 Though the focus is on the financial aspect, book currently reading has noted that in the occupied countries of Europe, only Belgium (and Athens, in Greece) had public officials who were so uncooperative with the Germans' anti-Jewish program that it forced them to adapt. He said nothing so far about Denmark, which I believe had a distinguished record on that.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2020 12:39 PM (OTzUX)

288
Valentina Lasitsa did a recording the Rachmaninov piano concertos w/the London Symphony. (Spoiler: they're excellent!) She bankrolled it herself, thus wanted actual rehearsal and recording time to be minimal.

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The LSO are the greatest collection of sight readers in the world. Not surprised she would have gone to them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2020 12:39 PM (mht8P)

289 243 The Kenosha County prosecutor has dropped three of the four charges against Mr. Warning Shot Guy Who Was Walking With His Wife Before Fleeing The Scene. The only charge that remains is disorderly conduct.
Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (a3we3)

a synopsis of what I posted on that earlier this week - the charges against him don't matter, the significance is what this means for the impending Rittenhouse trial.

This charge establishes, as a legal fact, that this man was firing a pistol into the air as Rittenhouse attempted to flee, with his back to him. (the audio track on the cell phone footage confirms this) What this means is that when Rittenhouse attempted to flee, he heard gunfire directly behind him, and when he turned he saw a man charging him. It was reasonable for him to believe that his life was in danger and that he had been shot at first (he couldn't see where the gun had been aimed), and thus it was reasonable for him to pull the trigger at his attacker.

This is all that is needed for a valid self defense claim. Self defense is easily established for the 2nd two shootings because of the video evidence, but the circumstances of the first shooting were obscure. This clears things up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 12:39 PM (V2Yro)

290 "All white guys are just basically, they don't give a damn about women."
-Joe Biden

"Exhibit A: your son Hunter."

My lips are sealed about this and many other things. Because I'm dead.

Posted by: Zombie Beau Biden at October 17, 2020 12:40 PM (oBAbT)

291 I don't know why everyone is so upset about the Wallace debate. Yeah, Trump was a bit aggressive, but hell, it was two against one. I really don't think it was all that bad anyway.

Here's the important thing: Do you know a single person who voted for Trump in 2016 who is not going to vote for him in 2020? Not likely. Then add in all the people who did write-ins or didn't vote at all because they were wary of Trump. He has delivered on numerous promises. Those people are with us now and will vote for him.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (sGotD)

This kind of thing is so silly. First, not enough people watched the damn thing to have been turned off by Trump's aggressiveness.

So... whatever blip occurred in the polls, if it was real, is from corporate media pounding away at it. Which, whether they like it or not, is just going to be a blip. Because that's the blessing and curse of corporate media. When you constantly shill for one side, you can influence people, but it wears off like mascara on Tammy Fae Baker's face, or melts like a goose ice sculpture.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:40 PM (hku12)

292 When I was in Germany fifteen years ago, the "ethnic" food always made me laugh... Whether you ordered spaghetti or lo mein, you were getting bratwurst in it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 12:40 PM (eXmcp)

293 hunter, hey, so you see anything in the barrel here?

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:41 PM (4Jold)

294 267 The Outer Worlds has been available on Game Pass for PC for a while now. It's probably not worth it if you don't also have an Xbox, but maybe with the Bethesda purchase it will be a better value in the future.
Posted by: Chunk Hunger at October 17, 2020 12:34 PM (uhPTO)

Yeah not an X-box user. You can buy it direct off the microsoft store too. But I've already got a lot on Steam, and that is the PC platform basically. I do have GoG for the Witcher, might purchase Cyberpunk on that as well. Just too many pc launchers currently.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 12:41 PM (vMCab)

295 Boots, reminds me of the classic line in Love and Death -

"Father Dmitri, do Jews have horns?"

"No, that's German Jews. Russian Jews have tails - here, I have some sketches ....."

(paraphrased from memory)

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2020 12:42 PM (OTzUX)

296 Anastasia is fantastic

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 12:42 PM (OjZpE)

297 "All white guys are just basically, they don't give a damn about women."
-Joe Biden

Why did he specify "white?" You know why. Because we're not as sensitive to women as, say, NFL players.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 12:42 PM (q+fko)

298 So, I'm a second generation Polish American. From the Detroit area, which has a very large Polish population. Most are in Macomb County, which is the home of Reagan Democrats.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 17, 2020 12:31 PM (ZCiJZ)
~~~~~

I worked at a refinery in Linden, NJ years ago which had a huge Polish population. The majority of the workers were Polish Americans and every Thursday they would bring in homemade kielbasa, pierogis, sauerkraut, potato rolls, and some little jam-filled bow tie cookies that I can't remember the name. It's a far cry from Mrs. T's and I sorely miss those days.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 12:42 PM (sGotD)

299 221�Me too. Trump lost 6 points post debate with rasmussen. That was a huge drop and he is barely making it back up. He stands at 48% now but another debate performance like the first will sink his chances in November.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 17, 2020 12:16 PM (JUOKG)

This is inaccurate. If you believe the Rasmussen approval ratings, the drop started before the debate, when he announced ACB.

Posted by: Tofer732 at October 17, 2020 12:44 PM (fiBkQ)

300 292 When I was in Germany fifteen years ago, the "ethnic" food always made me laugh... Whether you ordered spaghetti or lo mein, you were getting bratwurst in it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 12:40 PM (eXmcp)

In Bavaria, everything except the beer has pork in it. That's an unknown addendum to the Rheinheitsgebot.

Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2020 12:44 PM (Ti+Tv)

301
Sorry to be a minority of one, but Miss Hupmann's performance of the Military Polonaise did not appeal to me. But this is not meant to disparage the enjoyment anyone else got from it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 17, 2020 12:44 PM (mht8P)

302 I'm reminded of a case I read about somewhere where a guy tried to resolve a contentious debt by writing out a check on the side of a live pig. The guy who was owed the money refused to take it and sued him. The court, having verified all the necessary information to clear the transaction had in fact been written on the pig ruled that a fair attempt at payment had been made and threw the case out.
Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2020 12:33 PM (kOpft)

They say, and I assume it's true, anything over 20 pennies is not considered legal tender. So you can't pay off a debt by giving someone a wheelbarrow full of pennies.

I wonder if the same is true for nickels.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:44 PM (hku12)

303

19
Sure, Anastasia Hupmann can bang out a song on the piano, but how fast is she at making a sammich?
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Or maybe you make ssmmich for Lola.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FdDLvED_4E

Posted by: Braenyard at October 17, 2020 12:45 PM (UIwVc)

304 The role of the Polish pilots in the RAF during the Battle of Britain seems comparatively little known, overall. Pretty amazing.

And of course the essential early role in breaking the German code system.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2020 12:45 PM (OTzUX)

305 but it wears off like mascara on Tammy Fae Baker's face, or melts like a goose ice sculpture.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:40 PM (hku12)

I still have my "I ran into Tammy Faye at the Mall" T-shirt.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 17, 2020 12:46 PM (PiwSw)

306 And of course the essential early role in breaking the German code system.
Posted by: rhomboid at Octobe

they were highly motivated

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:46 PM (4Jold)

307 I didn't say anything about how it would or would not pertain to Kyle Rittenhouse's defense. It's just nice to learn that firing a handgun among a mass of people in Kenosha Co. will not get one jammed up on a felony charge of 2nd Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety.

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 12:46 PM (a3we3)

308 ---Ok, I might admit whatever Michelle wanted she might get from mePosted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 11:40 AM
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Bend over.

Posted by: M. Obama at October 17, 2020 12:46 PM (RVcmP)

309 Rhomboid, right?

I was gobsmacked when she told that story, and the fact that the person didn't just wait for a bad-hair-day when our friend would have her hair pulled back anyway. No, this person asked her to see her ears, and told her why she needed to see those ears.

Posted by: Boots at October 17, 2020 12:46 PM (oGBso)

310 In deep blue Southern California, overnight appeared Trump and Blue Lives Matter flags installed on the every light pole along the Esplanade in Redondo Beach. A mile plus!
Posted by: LASue
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Anything like this happen in 2016?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2020 12:46 PM (5p7BC)

311 IIRC, it was a Polish engineer who handmade a wooden copy of the Enigma machine and smuggled to Ol' Blighty.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 12:47 PM (eXmcp)

312 Joe hasn't yet said "You seem pretty articulate and bright and clean for a Pollack", but you know it's coming.

Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2020 12:48 PM (Ti+Tv)

313 "I am proud of my round-faced, pasty-white Polish heritage,"

You do you, of course, but speaking as someone who has been a legal immigrant here for more than half my life now, my view has always been that I am neither responsible for the sins of the land of my birth - nor do I get any credit for its virtues.
And neither are you.

Posted by: exdemocrat at October 17, 2020 12:48 PM (GmndG)

314 So Rudy released the letter from Hunter's lawyer asking for the computer drives back...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 12:49 PM (Zmnko)

315 243 The Kenosha County prosecutor has dropped three of the four charges against Mr. Warning Shot Guy Who Was Walking With His Wife Before Fleeing The Scene.
Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 12:28 PM (a3we3)

What was it, date night?

"Hey, honey, let's go to the riots tonight."
"Oh, I don't have a thing to wear."
"How about wearing all black, along with a balaclava?"
"OK."
"Right. Let me grab my pistol and we'll be on our way!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 12:49 PM (q+fko)

316 * And neither are/do you*

Posted by: exdemocrat at October 17, 2020 12:49 PM (GmndG)

317 I thought a black USN ship's cook broke the Enigma Code and then his wife went on to put a man on the moon??

Posted by: andycanuck at October 17, 2020 12:50 PM (an7Mv)

318 314 So Rudy released the letter from Hunter's lawyer asking for the computer drives back...
Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 12:49 PM (Zmnko)

what computer drives are you talking about?

Posted by: MSM at October 17, 2020 12:50 PM (Ti+Tv)

319 Why can't Antifa attempt to disrupt a reenactment of the winged hussars? I would pay to watch that.

Posted by: 40 Miles North at October 17, 2020 12:50 PM (uWF4x)

320 "When Trump is re elected he needs to defund the NPR."
This is actually a thornier problem than one would expect. NPR receives only a small percentage of their budget directly from federal appropriations. They've been shilling this fact for over thirty years, pointing to their listener and corporate donations. "We're a very minor expense for the taxpayers," they insist.
The con? The majority of their budget consists in charging their network affiliates for their programming. These affiliates are mostly university affiliated, and thus are supported by taxes. Add to that the grants from the so-called Non-govermental Organizations, few of which would exist without taxpayer support.

Defunding them would be a lengthy process in many jurisdictions.

Posted by: Brett at October 17, 2020 12:51 PM (1zwkR)

321 You do you, of course, but speaking as someone who has been a legal immigrant here for more than half my life now, my view has always been that I am neither responsible for the sins of the land of my birth - nor do I get any credit for its virtues.
And neither are you.
Posted by: exdemocrat at Octobe

no interest in my heritage further back than when my ancestors arrived here.

if they decided they wanted to gtfo of where they were and renounce their ties and obligations to where they were from and their traditions, then that is enough.

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:51 PM (4Jold)

322 317 I thought a black USN ship's cook broke the Enigma Code and then his wife went on to put a man on the moon??
Posted by: andycanuck at October 17, 2020 12:50 PM (an7Mv)

No, it was that gay guy.

Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2020 12:51 PM (Ti+Tv)

323 It's just nice to learn that firing a handgun among a mass of people in Kenosha Co. will not get one jammed up on a felony charge of 2nd Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety.
Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 12:46 PM (a3we3)

I gloss over some things since I assume they're common knowledge now; such as the knowledge that every prosecutor in a Dem run area is hopelessly corrupt. And most of the ones in Republican areas are corrupt too. Our system has given prosecutors way too much power.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 12:51 PM (V2Yro)

324 Available on You Tube are skits from the Big Chuck and Hoolihan show (later Big Chuck and Little John) on WJW channel 8, Cleveland. Many of the skits are The Kielbasi Kid, played by Big Chuck Schowdowski . Some of the best examples of Poles enjoying the humor of Polish jokes.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 17, 2020 12:51 PM (I58tH)

325 Kolaches are the Polish butter cookies with jam in the middle. There are about a hundred ways to spell that in English. But I believe it's pronounced "Ko - Laht - Skees"

Posted by: Boots at October 17, 2020 12:52 PM (oGBso)

326 where does the Polish-American Club meet?

and is there a secret handshake, cuz that would be cool

Posted by: DB- just DB. at October 17, 2020 12:52 PM (iTXRQ)

327 If you believe in the polls, you also have to believe that people have been changing their minds, back and forth, back and forth, all summer.

...if one were to think deeply.

Posted by: t-bird at October 17, 2020 12:52 PM (oBAbT)

328 I like Trafalgar for the swing states. They were the only pollster to call Michigan correctly in 2016.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Of the polls out there, they are the closest to reality right now. Their samples conform to actual votes cast, at least.

However, all of the polls, including Trafalgar, are suffering from not being able to get enough responses, especially from non-college working males. I've heard the guy from Trafalgar say that personally.

So there is a pretty decent chance that even Trafalgar and the campaign polls are underestimating Trump strength.

Personally, I continue to call it a close race, with Trump ahead in enough battleground states to win. But if the trajectory we saw this week continues for the next two week, it will become obvious that Trump is blowing Biden away.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2020 12:53 PM (5p7BC)

329 I thought a black USN ship's cook broke the Enigma Code and then his wife went on to put a man on the moon??

Posted by: andycanuck at October 17, 2020 12:50 PM (an7Mv)

No, it was that gay guy.

Actually, it was a black gay Muslim guy.

/doesn't anyone know history?

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 17, 2020 12:53 PM (ZCiJZ)

330 325 Kolaches are the Polish butter cookies with jam in the middle. There are about a hundred ways to spell that in English. But I believe it's pronounced "Ko - Laht - Skees"

Posted by: Boots at October 17, 2020 12:52 PM (oGBso)

Same number of spellings for poonsch-keys

Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2020 12:54 PM (Ti+Tv)

331 Yeah I'm not real proud of my Slavic heritage, all SMR jokes aside. I'll never understand people being proud of whatever stupid squalid pisstrap they came from when they're American. Though, these days, my countrymen are testing my patience with even this place.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 12:54 PM (eXmcp)

332 They say, and I assume it's true, anything over 20 pennies is not considered legal tender. So you can't pay off a debt by giving someone a wheelbarrow full of pennies.

I wonder if the same is true for nickels.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:44 PM (hku12)

I looked it up. In a nutshell: coins, including pennies, are legal tender, and government entities (Federal, at least) must accept payment in legal tender.

Private entities, like merchants, are free to choose which forms of legal tender they want to accept. So a 7-11 could refuse to accept bills larger than a twenty at night, for example.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 17, 2020 12:54 PM (jj7uk)

333 Joe hasn't yet said "You seem pretty articulate and bright and clean for a Pollack", but you know it's coming.
Posted by: Roy at October 17, 2020 12:48 PM (Ti+Tv)

I assumed we'd have a lot more whoppers coming out of Joe's mouth by now, but you gotta hand it to them, they've done a superb job of keeping him from saying TOO much that isn't already written for him.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:54 PM (hku12)

334 So Rudy released the letter from Hunter's lawyer asking for the computer drives back...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 12:49 PM (Zmnko)
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And what a surprise, the law firm is based in Chicago! No corruption there by golly.

Posted by: Boots at October 17, 2020 12:54 PM (oGBso)

335 "Hey, honey, let's go to the riots tonight."

"Oh, I don't have a thing to wear."

"How about wearing all black, along with a balaclava?"

"OK."

"Right. Let me grab my pistol and we'll be on our way!"

On the way home...

"Honey, why are you stopping on this bridge over the river?'"I have to get rid of the pistol before we report it stolen."

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 12:54 PM (a3we3)

336 Defunding them would be a lengthy process in many jurisdictions.
Posted by: Brett at October 17, 2020 12:51 PM (1zwkR)

So what?

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 12:55 PM (vMCab)

337 "One could conclude from this that Biden doesn't see..."

One could conclude from the things Joe says that he is a buffoon, a braggart, a bully, a liar, a con man, a racist, an idiot, an asshole, and a lot more things we don't want a President to be.

Posted by: Gref at October 17, 2020 12:55 PM (AMIL/)

338 197 I just got a text message from Doug Ducey (I could tell because the first line was "It's Doug Ducey!"). Apparently he's very excited about me donating money.

Anybody know who that is?
Posted by: hogmartin at October 17, 2020 12:14 PM (t+qrx)

No idea.

Posted by: Dug Doozy at October 17, 2020 12:55 PM (9IdCK)

339 Yeah I'm not real proud of my Slavic heritage, all SMR jokes aside. I'll never understand people being proud of whatever stupid squalid pisstrap they came from when they're American. Though, these days, my countrymen are testing my patience with even this place.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October

not so interested in where somebody came from what matters is that we are here now.

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 12:55 PM (4Jold)

340 https://thefederalist.com/why the left needs us all to believe the united-states is racist forever

There is a crack in their accusations starting as wrote earlier with prominent black Republicans and conservatives. Maybe someday that percentage will reach tipping point and Democrats need to stop it at any price. The black woman behind Trump is that.

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 12:56 PM (OjZpE)

341 this note is legal tender for all debts, public and private

Posted by: DB- just DB. at October 17, 2020 12:56 PM (iTXRQ)

342 Poles suffered horrifically under both evil ideologies. They know.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2020 12:56 PM (KZzsI)

343 Kolaches are the Polish butter cookies with jam in the middle. There
are about a hundred ways to spell that in English. But I believe it's
pronounced "Ko - Laht - Skees"

We always called them Rogaliki. Which, I believe, is the Russian name.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 17, 2020 12:58 PM (ZCiJZ)

344
Actually, it was a black gay Muslim guy.

Yeah, the tranny in a wheelchair black gay muslim guy.

Posted by: Banned at October 17, 2020 12:58 PM (p40ve)

345 Biden thinks everybody is stupid, and judging by the amount of assholes that would vote for him he may have a point.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2020 12:58 PM (9Om/r)

346 "So what?"
"What" is that the federal government cannot defund NPR at one fell swoop.

Posted by: Brett at October 17, 2020 12:58 PM (1zwkR)

347 Available on You Tube are skits from the Big Chuck and Hoolihan show (later Big Chuck and Little John) on WJW channel 8, Cleveland. Many of the skits are The Kielbasi Kid, played by Big Chuck Schowdowski . Some of the best examples of Poles enjoying the humor of Polish jokes.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

At one time, I lived in North Royalton, Ohio, in the late 1980's . Big Chuck shopped at the same supermarket that I did, as I saw him there all the time.
Little John looked like a smaller version (hah!) of a guy I used to work with. We used to kid him about being Little John's big brother.

"That certain ethnic minority!" was how they would refer to Poles.

Forget it Jake. It's Parmatown.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at October 17, 2020 01:00 PM (ZCiJZ)

348 331 Yeah I'm not real proud of my Slavic heritage, all SMR jokes aside. I'll never understand people being proud of whatever stupid squalid pisstrap they came from when they're American. Though, these days, my countrymen are testing my patience with even this place.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 12:54 PM (eXmcp)

Yeah, I'm certainly fascinated by my heritage. But I have far more pride in where I come from in America than where my ancestors chose to leave. Its cool hearing that my Great Grandfather was a blacksmith and the town constable and was spending nights outside of the bank with a rifle because it was a possible target for Dillinger.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 01:00 PM (vMCab)

349 I want blood this election, one way or the other

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 17, 2020 01:00 PM (tsZQ+)

350 Okay, so this is the story.. The photos on Hunters computer are real... But the emails are fake... That's why the FBI is still looking into it.. That's the new talking point

Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 01:01 PM (Zmnko)

351 They say, and I assume it's true, anything over 20 pennies is not considered legal tender. So you can't pay off a debt by giving someone a wheelbarrow full of pennies.

I wonder if the same is true for nickels.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 12:44 PM (hku12)

I looked it up. In a nutshell: coins, including pennies, are legal tender, and government entities (Federal, at least) must accept payment in legal tender.

Private entities, like merchants, are free to choose which forms of legal tender they want to accept. So a 7-11 could refuse to accept bills larger than a twenty at night, for example.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 17, 2020 12:54 PM (jj7uk)

So then yeah, the old "20 cent rule" is basically bullshit.

Like so many other things, gets repeated over and over again, until we just absorb it as true.

I don't know how many times I have to re-learn this lesson.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:01 PM (hku12)

352 "What" is that the federal government cannot defund NPR at one fell swoop.
Posted by: Brett at October 17, 2020 12:58 PM (1zwkR)

They could cut off that portion which is federally funded. Then they could start cutting grants to the colleges that host the radio stations.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 17, 2020 01:01 PM (jj7uk)

353 Back from the gun show. Two things really struck me as an indicator of the times.

Mossberg 590a - i bought a used on in March for $289. Little or no wear, no box. Maybe shot four or five times and traded. There were two of these at the gun show, same condition as mine. $775 & $800.

Ruger LCP II - Used to gobs of these little phuckers because they are a pain in the hand to shoot. Not. One. Single. LCP II. At. The. Show.

I suppose the new gun purchasers wanted a concealed carry pocket gun which is why there ain't any .380 to be found anywhere anymore.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at October 17, 2020 01:01 PM (VcFUs)

354 I am a first gen American on my mothers side but my father's family came from Ireland in the 1760s. We were raised to love America and our Irish heritage. But America is always first.

Posted by: Megthered at October 17, 2020 01:02 PM (SM/op)

355 https://bit.ly/31gzKI1
********
Schweizer: More Emails, Proof of Relationship Between Hunter Biden, Russian Oligarch Forthcoming

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 17, 2020 01:02 PM (Iuc1g)

356 Saw a "f##k Trump" party banner today, akin to those letters on a line happy birthday kind. Hanging from the balcony of a look in the dictionary under ghetto and see the picture of this apt bldg in a couple blocks of ghetto apts.

Posted by: Banned at October 17, 2020 01:02 PM (p40ve)

357 >>So there is a pretty decent chance that even Trafalgar and the campaign polls are underestimating Trump strength

I agree. Honestly the best indicator for me is to watch Trump's rallies. I don't remember ever seeing a candidate draw these kinds of crowds, not even Obama, night after night and in the middle of this damn lockdown. Hard to measure but vitally important.

Enthusiasm is surging for Trump and so is anger at the corrupt left including the media. Joe and The Ho have no enthusiasm at all. They've had to drag Obama to Philly to help try and regain some of that enthusiasm. In PA.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 01:03 PM (ZLI7S)

358 350 Okay, so this is the story.. The photos on Hunters computer are real... But the emails are fake... That's why the FBI is still looking into it.. That's the new talking point

Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 01:01 PM (Zmnko)

Hunter was hacked! That's why he took the laptop to the repair guy!

/s/ Team Joe

Posted by: Gref at October 17, 2020 01:03 PM (AMIL/)

359 this note is legal tender for all debts, public and private
Posted by: DB- just DB. at October 17, 2020 12:56 PM (iTXRQ)

Except there's no federal statue that requires any business to accept your filthy cash.

Maybe local statues, but not federal.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:04 PM (hku12)

360 Welp, time to gather my Kroger coupons and blitzshop.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 17, 2020 01:04 PM (DLzZd)

361 I suppose the new gun purchasers wanted a concealed carry pocket gun which is why there ain't any .380 to be found anywhere anymore.
Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at Octobe

they just want anything.

my friends were "anti-gun" now they are "any-gun"

they're buying the garbage that the stores were trying to sell forever

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 01:05 PM (4Jold)

362 "They could cut off that portion which is federally funded. Then they
could start cutting grants to the colleges that host the radio stations."
That's a good start.

Posted by: Brett at October 17, 2020 01:05 PM (1zwkR)

363 Servo: Maybe you should turn the gain up on your sarcasm detection meter.

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 01:05 PM (a3we3)

364 I think the 'paying with coin' law here is that only up to a roll has to be accepted like fifty cents in pennies; five dollars in dimes etc. as legal tender. US dollars are also legal tender here although I don't think the exchange rate is set by law.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 17, 2020 01:06 PM (an7Mv)

365 GARDEN NOOD

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at October 17, 2020 01:06 PM (OjZpE)

366 So then yeah, the old "20 cent rule" is basically bullshit.

Like so many other things, gets repeated over and over again, until we just absorb it as true.

I don't know how many times I have to re-learn this lesson.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:01 PM (hku12)

Yeah. There's no hard number on it. Look at it from a merchant's point of view: at some point the labor cost of counting and handling the coins would exceed the profit from the sale.

It's becoming hard to find banks that will accept large amounts of coin from those not account holders. Even rolled.

Those Coinstar machines are becoming popular for a reason, I guess.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 17, 2020 01:06 PM (jj7uk)

367 353 Back from the gun show. Two things really struck me as an indicator of the times.

Wow, just wow.

Posted by: Banned at October 17, 2020 01:07 PM (p40ve)

368 Joe Biden is an over-the-hill gangster, being propped up by other gangsters who are afraid they're gonna get caught.

Beau Biden was the son who was gonna take over the family business, but died.

Hunter Biden is the spoiled brat who had to take over his dead brother's role, but being a stupid fuck-up is fucking up everybody's action.

The only reason I can figure Hunter hasn't not hanged himself yet is either a dead-man-switch, or because the Biden gang is separate from the Clinton gang.

Posted by: davidt at October 17, 2020 01:07 PM (l3+k2)

369 Been reading y'all since early this morning.

I certainly hope you're right.
Seattle is so hardcore lefty, it's hard for me to image there's any majority anywhere that supports PDT.

I'm not leaving. But some clarity would be nice.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 17, 2020 01:08 PM (U2p+3)

370 I thought a black USN ship's cook broke the Enigma Code and then his wife went on to put a man on the moon??
Posted by: andycanuck at October 17, 2020 12:50 PM (an7Mv)

Close. It was a mess boy, who broke the Enigma Code while he was eating the strawberries.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 01:08 PM (le94c)

371 361 Heritage Rough Rider .22s are bringing just shy of $200. Before the latest panic, you could find them on sale for around $100. Good little gun, but sheesh.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 17, 2020 01:08 PM (I58tH)

372 You do you, of course, but speaking as someone who has been a legal immigrant here for more than half my life now, my view has always been that I am neither responsible for the sins of the land of my birth - nor do I get any credit for its virtues.
And neither are you.

Posted by: exdemocrat

True. The English 1/4 of me has been in North America for 11 generations. The Polish 3/4 for just 4. So our bloodline wasn't directly involved in any of the European Unpleasantness of the 20th Century. And even of it was, that guilt died with the perpetrators.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:08 PM (Qio/u)

373 I think the reason for the tendency towards ethnic identity among people who live in the only country where it doesn't matter in any way, is that our lack of ethnic identity makes people feel like we don't have an "authentic" American identity at all.

Which is utterly ridiculous. You could drop me anywhere on earth. If an American of the local racial extraction is walking down the street, I can pick his Yankee ass out of that crowd from fifty yards away. Nobody's like us.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 01:09 PM (eXmcp)

374 353 Back from the gun show. Two things really struck me as an indicator of the times.

Mossberg 590a - i bought a used on in March for $289. Little or no wear, no box. Maybe shot four or five times and traded. There were two of these at the gun show, same condition as mine. $775 & $800.

Ruger LCP II - Used to gobs of these little phuckers because they are a pain in the hand to shoot. Not. One. Single. LCP II. At. The. Show.

I suppose the new gun purchasers wanted a concealed carry pocket gun which is why there ain't any .380 to be found anywhere anymore.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at October 17, 2020 01:01 PM (VcFUs)

The non-availability of guns and ammo, and the prices for what is available, are much, much worse than after the Sandy Hook school shooting and the resulting screams for gun control. The 3 months or so after Sandy Hook was the worst I'd seen until now.

Posted by: Gref at October 17, 2020 01:09 PM (AMIL/)

375 Ugh. My timing sucks.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 17, 2020 01:09 PM (U2p+3)

376 We were raised to love America and our Irish heritage. But America is always first.
Posted by: Megthered at October 17, 2020 01:02 PM (SM/op)
~~~~~

Same here. There was always lots of singing at parties, and the night always ended with God Bless America.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 01:09 PM (sGotD)

377 Which is utterly ridiculous. You could drop me anywhere on earth. If an American of the local racial extraction is walking down the street, I can pick his Yankee ass out of that crowd from fifty yards away. Nobody's like us.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at Octobe

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 01:10 PM (4Jold)

378 It's becoming hard to find banks that will accept large amounts of coin from those not account holders. Even rolled.

In other words, there is a "coin shortage," but banks do not want "coins."

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 17, 2020 01:10 PM (ZCiJZ)

379
Joe Biden is an over-the-hill gangster, being propped up by other gangsters who are afraid they're gonna get caught.

Beau Biden was the son who was gonna take over the family business, but died.

Hunter Biden is the spoiled brat who had to take over his dead brother's role, but being a stupid fuck-up is fucking up everybody's action.

Posted by: davidt at October 17, 2020 01:07 PM (l3+k2)

Hunter is JFK?

Yeah, I can see that.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2020 01:11 PM (EGyGV)

380 Heritage Rough Rider .22s are bringing just shy of $200. Before the latest panic, you could find them on sale for around $100. Good little gun, but sheesh.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at October 17, 2020 01:08 PM (I58tH)

If I could own one here in Alberta, without getting name on a government list, I would buy one in a heartbeat. Not ideal for self-defense, but way better than none at all, and ideal to tote while on the lawnmower, for whacking gophers.

And just for plinking, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 17, 2020 01:11 PM (jj7uk)

381 Biden thinks everybody is stupid, and judging by the amount of assholes that would vote for him he may have a point.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2020 12:58 PM (9Om/r)

For 47 years. He's seen it up close and personal. Why would he start to think otherwise now.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:12 PM (hku12)

382 The only reason I can figure Hunter hasn't not hanged himself yet is either a dead-man-switch, or because the Biden gang is separate from the Clinton gang.
Posted by: davidt at October 17, 2020 01:07 PM (l3+k2)

Probably two scenarios:

1. They're waiting to see whether the whole thing blows over. You wouldn't think that possible, but Slick Willie got a beejer in the Oval Office from an intern and managed to ride it out, so ... maybe.

2. They figure Joe is going to lose anyway, and so the whole thing will be forgotten as he rides off into the sunset.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 01:12 PM (le94c)

383 Ugh. My timing sucks.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 17, 2020 01:09 PM (U2p+3)
~~~~~

Nah, you're good. Everyone stays here unless they want to talk rutabagas.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 01:12 PM (sGotD)

384 Okay, so this is the story.. The photos on Hunters computer are real... But the emails are fake... That's why the FBI is still looking into it.. That's the new talking point

Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 01:01 PM (Zmnko)

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I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the strategy sessions going on at Team Biden right now. I'd see the staff playing out all these different dodges and scenarios to explain the stuff on Hunter's laptop. Meanwhile, Slow Joe is outside in the hall playing with his army men and toy airplanes.

It would be just like the scene on the morning after Ted Kennedy drowned his presidential aspirations and Mary Jo. But mostly Mary Jo.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 01:13 PM (wPVhA)

385 The only reason I can figure Hunter hasn't not hanged himself yet is either a dead-man-switch, or because the Biden gang is separate from the Clinton gang.

Posted by: davidt

Hunter Biden has at least $300 million sitting in a bank account somewhere he will never lose access to or be questioned about. He did, after all, "manage" a $1.5 billion fund for the ChiComs for several years.

He never has to leave whatever mansion he lives in, and his handlers provide him all the booze, drugs and girls he can consume.

He may accidently overdose, but there is no reason why he would ever intentionally kill himself.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:13 PM (Qio/u)

386 Beau Biden was the son who was gonna take over the family business, but died.

Hunter Biden is the spoiled brat who had to take over his dead brother's role, but being a stupid fuck-up is fucking up everybody's action.

Posted by: davidt at October 17, 2020 01:07 PM (l3+k2)

Cancer was Beau's equivalent of hitmen at the toll booth?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 01:14 PM (lgiXo)

387 Vote early, folks! Use the information you currently have, before we learn more about Hunter's laptop. And Weiner's laptop. And the Ukraine... Oh, you know, just do the thing!

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 17, 2020 01:14 PM (1fg6a)

388 >>Okay, so this is the story.. The photos on Hunters computer are real... But the emails are fake... That's why the FBI is still looking into it.. That's the new talking point

The FBI took the laptop because they had a grand jury subpoena. That only happens when a US Attorney in the district of Delaware is involved.

I don't think the US Attorney in Delaware is running a counterintelligence operation.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 01:14 PM (ZLI7S)

389 he didn't get $300mm from the chinese hf $, most he got was 2 and 20 for managing the $1.5bn, which is enough but not as much.

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 01:15 PM (4Jold)

390 This thread goes well until Pets, then except that all gets quite.
Then it's good book reading time.

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 01:15 PM (OjZpE)

391 Over 3.4 million votes in Texas.

Insane.

Posted by: Ha at October 17, 2020 01:16 PM (+jNil)

392 Which is utterly ridiculous. You could drop me anywhere on earth. If an American of the local racial extraction is walking down the street, I can pick his Yankee ass out of that crowd from fifty yards away. Nobody's like us.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at Octobe

This is absolutely true. When I lived in Europe, I could pick out Americans from fifty yards away too. It wasn't their clothes, although that made it ridiculously easy (Americans in general wear brighter colors than Europeans). It was something about the open-eyed unguarded "gee whillikers" expressions on their faces.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 01:16 PM (le94c)

393 He may accidently overdose, but there is no reason why he would ever intentionally kill himself.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:13 PM (Qio/u)

------

Oh definitely. He's free and clear. Now, if he has any tiny little bit of shame left after all that crack, there's still a chance. I can't imagine he likes what he sees in the mirror.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 01:16 PM (eXmcp)

394 Heading over to gardening. I need to kavetch about a yellow jacket nest in my front island.

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at October 17, 2020 01:16 PM (VcFUs)

395 326
where does the Polish-American Club meet?

and is there a secret handshake, cuz that would be cool

more of a secret squat: "heels to the sky, western spy..."

Posted by: Anachronda at October 17, 2020 01:17 PM (5br8a)

396 I'm here.
Just checked with the hotel in Corsicana. No pool and no hot breakfast. Just boxes with a bagel and yogurt. Sigh....Is there a place to get a real breakfast and coffee? I hate, hate this. When the hell does it all end. I was hoping Texas would be more sane.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 17, 2020 01:17 PM (sd8p8)

397 I think the 'paying with coin' law here is that only up to a roll has to be accepted like fifty cents in pennies; five dollars in dimes etc. as legal tender. US dollars are also legal tender here although I don't think the exchange rate is set by law.
Posted by: andycanuck at October 17, 2020 01:06 PM (an7Mv)

When I was in Germany, most but not all businesses took dollars. Some even welcomed them.

There was no set exchange rate, however, and the best place to convert your dollars to marks (because bars often would not take dollars) was McDonalds.

So you go in, buy a small Coke, hand them a $20 and get your change in Kraut money.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:17 PM (hku12)

398 Hunter won't kill himself. But he may, "Didn't hang himself."

Posted by: davidt at October 17, 2020 01:18 PM (l3+k2)

399 bdkh?

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 01:18 PM (4Jold)

400 393 He may accidently overdose, but there is no reason why he would ever intentionally kill himself.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:13 PM (Qio/u)

I don't see why Hunter would feel any shame. He was raised for this.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 01:19 PM (lgiXo)

401 I don't see why Hunter would feel any shame. He was raised for this.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at Octobe

the whores and crack would be for the shame

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 01:20 PM (4Jold)

402 Hunter isn't Fredo exactly

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 01:20 PM (OjZpE)

403 You see the topics this lefty debate chick ("moderator") is going to ask about? Same old, same old.

Forget Biden's corruption. We know the MSM/DNC can't touch that subject. But what about foreign policy? We are having a supposedly serious election for POTUS without any talk of that.

(Yes, yes. I know. Trump holds all the aces on that subject --- so we can't even address it. Still, ....unbelievable. )

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2020 01:20 PM (M/9m0)

404 They've had to drag Obama to Philly to help try and regain some of that enthusiasm. In PA.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 01:03 PM (ZLI7S)

What's Obama's batting average when campaigning for someone? Isn't it pretty much .000?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 01:21 PM (le94c)

405
(Yes, yes. I know. Trump holds all the aces on that subject --- so we can't even address it. Still, ....unbelievable. )

And of course other topics.. covid 19 and racism...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 01:21 PM (Zmnko)

406 392 Which is utterly ridiculous. You could drop me anywhere on earth. If an American of the local racial extraction is walking down the street, I can pick his Yankee ass out of that crowd from fifty yards away. Nobody's like us.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at Octobe

This is absolutely true. When I lived in Europe, I could pick out Americans from fifty yards away too. It wasn't their clothes, although that made it ridiculously easy (Americans in general wear brighter colors than Europeans). It was something about the open-eyed unguarded "gee whillikers" expressions on their faces.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 01:16 PM (le94c)

Honestly you look at video of people and I can pretty much tell by sight that they're Eastern European. For asians I can tell a lot if they are Asian American or still living in their country.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 01:22 PM (vMCab)

407 He may accidently overdose, but there is no reason why he would ever intentionally kill himself.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:13 PM (Qio/u)

Yeah, people with money and power, if they kill themselves it's because their reputation is destroyed. The loss of prestige is the killer.

Hunter never had any, so all he's got is the money and the hookers and the blow. And he doesn't seem to be running out of those anytime soon.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:22 PM (hku12)

408 He may accidently overdose, but there is no reason why he would ever intentionally kill himself.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:13 PM (Qio/u)
--------------------
I don't see why Hunter would feel any shame. He was raised for this.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 01:19 PM (lgiXo)
~~~~~

I'm not so sure about that. Did you see the emails between Hunter and Joe? There's a lot of self-loathing there, very sad.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 01:22 PM (sGotD)

409 I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to provide a single example of Joe Biden's decency, honesty and good character.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 01:23 PM (lgiXo)

410 >>What's Obama's batting average when campaigning for someone? Isn't it pretty much .000?

It really is amazing given how popular he was with the left that he had virtually no coattails.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 01:23 PM (ZLI7S)

411 I would guess that in a checklist of "people from other countries that Americans pretty consistently like a lot," "Polisth people" would rate pretty high pretty often.

Posted by: m at October 17, 2020 01:23 PM (PwDhe)

412 And of course other topics.. covid 19 and racism...
Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 01:21 PM (Zmnko)

And the Dems' go-to issue now: healthcare! Got to keep the wine moms onside.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 01:23 PM (le94c)

413 he didn't get $300mm from the chinese hf $, most he got was 2 and 20 for managing the $1.5bn, which is enough but not as much.

Posted by: confederatefifth

I read somewhere the typical management fee for such a fund is 4% per annum, since a fund like that can easily make 30%/annum being traded after hours on the exchanges.

That's an annual fee of $60M x 5 years of management. I could definitely be wrong, and it wouldn't be first or last time for that. But that's how I calculated it.

Also, we don't yet know what other deals went through that he collected graft on.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:24 PM (Qio/u)

414 *Polish, not Polisth
; (

Posted by: m at October 17, 2020 01:24 PM (PwDhe)

415 There's a new thread; maybe y'all know.

Posted by: m at October 17, 2020 01:24 PM (PwDhe)

416 410 >>What's Obama's batting average when campaigning for someone? Isn't it pretty much .000?

It really is amazing given how popular he was with the left that he had virtually no coattails.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 01:23 PM (

Did he ever talk about anything or anyone other than himself?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 01:25 PM (lgiXo)

417 Honestly you look at video of people and I can pretty much tell by sight that they're Eastern European.

It's their bulges.

Posted by: pep at October 17, 2020 01:26 PM (v16oJ)

418 I would guess that in a checklist of "people from other countries that
Americans pretty consistently like a lot," "Polisth people" would rate
pretty high pretty often.

What a nice thing to say.

I think it's the Excellent Baked Goods plus lots of potato laden foods.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at October 17, 2020 01:26 PM (ZCiJZ)

419 I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the strategy sessions going on at Team Biden right now. I'd see the staff playing out all these different dodges and scenarios to explain the stuff on Hunter's laptop. Meanwhile, Slow Joe is outside in the hall playing with his army men and toy airplanes.

It would be just like the scene on the morning after Ted Kennedy drowned his presidential aspirations and Mary Jo. But mostly Mary Jo.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 01:13 PM (wPVhA)

Seems like for a few weeks there, they were trying to push Jill on people. Were putting Kamala out there too. Now I'm wondering if the Covids on her staff are just an excuse to keep that poisonous snakes in her hair woman out of the public eyeball.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:26 PM (hku12)

420 411 I would guess that in a checklist of "people from other countries that Americans pretty consistently like a lot," "Polisth people" would rate pretty high pretty often.
Posted by: m at October 17, 2020 01:23 PM (PwDhe)

A friend of mine, an immigrant from Poland and former member of Solidarity, told me that Reagan is God in Poland.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 01:26 PM (le94c)

421 There's a new thread; maybe y'all know.
Posted by: m at October 17, 2020 01:24 PM (PwDhe)
~~~~~

Hey! We didn't just fall off the turnip truck, ya know.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 01:27 PM (sGotD)

422 The shame is part of the kink?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 17, 2020 01:28 PM (jK8Z7)

423 I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the strategy sessions going on at Team Biden right now.

Take the center square, Joe!

Posted by: Team Joe at October 17, 2020 01:28 PM (SwCv8)

424 I'm not so sure about that. Did you see the emails between Hunter and Joe? There's a lot of self-loathing there, very sad.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 01:22 PM (sGotD)

Self-loathing with a twist. I'm bad, because you made me this way.

It's addict talk.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:29 PM (hku12)

425 I really don;t think that Dems will turn out for Biden. He doesn"t check any boxes for them. White, male, old, white, male....If they couldn't put Hilary over the top as the first woman President(at least one box checked) why would Biden now do it? Trump was an unproven entity then and still beat her. Now he has kept his promises, is still the same personality and yet somehow Biden is going to get more votes than Hillary?
Also just saw Trafalgar poll, very trustworthy, has John James up 2 over Peters 48/46 in MI. Doesn;t that also mean Trump is up?If you are voting for James, you arae voting for Trump.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 17, 2020 01:29 PM (sd8p8)

426 I read somewhere the typical management fee for such a fund is 4% per annum, since a fund like that can easily make 30%/annum being traded after hours on the exchanges.

That's an annual fee of $60M x 5 years of management. I could definitely be wrong, and it wouldn't be first or last time for that. But that's how I calculated it.

Also, we don't yet know what other deals went through that he collected graft on.
Posted by: Sharkman at Octobe

I was assuming it was a standard hf with a generous 2 % mgmt fee and 20% of gain.

were I the chicom I would give them the $ in an account with the understanding that they get the fees and nothing more.

then again, I do not do much bribery

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 01:29 PM (4Jold)

427 Corsicana? Collin Street Bakery out on 45.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 17, 2020 01:31 PM (jK8Z7)

428 "not so interested in where somebody came from what matters is that we are here now."
- Right on, brother.

"And even of it was, that guilt died with the perpetrators."
- Agreed, but tbh credits died with them too.

"Nobody's like us."
- Fuck yeah! ;-)

Posted by: exdemocrat at October 17, 2020 01:32 PM (GmndG)

429 I was assuming it was a standard hf with a generous 2 % mgmt fee and 20% of gain.

were I the chicom I would give them the $ in an account with the understanding that they get the fees and nothing more.

then again, I do not do much bribery

Posted by: confederatefifth

I think the ChiComs never expected to see a dime of that fund or its profits back. I think the entire $1.5Bn was a bribe. I'd love to see the books on it.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:32 PM (Qio/u)

430 m I wouldn't let that happen

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at October 17, 2020 01:32 PM (OjZpE)

431 Joey Bidet deserves to be in one category - criminal.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 01:33 PM (p3tmI)

432 Trump may have lost 6 points post-debate according to Ras, but I think that had less to do with his aggressive behavior --it was obvious Wallace was after him and Biden was lying through his dentures--and more to do with the bullshit " he only paid $750 in taxes" story that came out around the same time.

That kind of thing--even if it's a lie--resonates with people.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 17, 2020 01:33 PM (HrMC1)

433 63 Biden is far from unique, I've posted before that Gilberto Hinojosa, the chairman of the Texas Democrat Party, has openly said that the Straight, White Men are no longer welcome in his organization. He said that without shame, he wouldn't dream of taking it back.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 11:36 AM (V2Yro)
--------------------

Brave Democrats, like Hinojosa, everywhere, should continue to speak out.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 17, 2020 01:33 PM (kh8w4)

434 - Fuck yeah! ;-)
Posted by: exdemocrat at Octobe

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 01:34 PM (4Jold)

435 Hunter won't kill himself. But he may, "Didn't hang himself."
Posted by: davidt at October 17, 2020 01:18 PM (l3+k2)

They'll put him in a cell, next to Gizlaine. Leave the doors unlocked, a bunch of items on a table against the wall, equidistant from each cell.

Knives, fireplace pokers, ropes, bottles of strychnine, etc.

If one or the other or both don't wake up for morning chow the next day, so be it. Suicide. Or the Covids.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:34 PM (hku12)

436 425�I really don;t think that Dems will turn out for Biden.

....

Right now they are and in a big way.

I'm hoping it burns out soon.

Posted by: Ha at October 17, 2020 01:35 PM (+jNil)

437 Hunter Biden is the Ted Kennedy of the Biden clan.

Hopefully he hasn't murdered anyone while under the influence.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 01:35 PM (p3tmI)

438
Corsicana? Collin Street Bakery out on 45.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 17, 2020 01:31 PM

Knowledge.

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 17, 2020 01:35 PM (tj1pY)

439 Biden is far from unique, I've posted before that Gilberto Hinojosa, the chairman of the Texas Democrat Party, has openly said that the Straight, White Men are no longer welcome in his organization. He said that without shame, he wouldn't dream of taking it back.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2020 11:36

I'm naive, I know,but I suspect there are a lot of straight women who are quite fond of those men the Democrats hate.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 01:37 PM (lgiXo)

440 Those crazy Polacks:

https://t.co/5hC76XQXet twitter
https://tinyurl.com/y7qx5dhs twitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrA9rcF49LY

They all go to the same site, your choice of viewing.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 17, 2020 01:38 PM (kh8w4)

441 I think the ChiComs never expected to see a dime of that fund or its profits back. I think the entire $1.5Bn was a bribe. I'd love to see the books on it.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:32 PM (Qio/u)

The Schweizer narrative is interesting. Get one of Hunter's business partners to arrange a White House visit for the Chicom "businessmen." Give them a tour of the building, with nothing much of anything interesting happening during that tour... except there's NO record of Biden's visitor log for that day. The Chicoms were definitely there, but somehow, someway, Joe's time in the building doesn't show squat.

Sure.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:39 PM (hku12)

442 Beau Biden was the son who was gonna take over the family business, but died.

Hunter Biden is the spoiled brat who had to take over his dead brother's role, but being a stupid fuck-up is fucking up everybody's action.

Posted by: davidt at October 17, 2020 01:07 PM (l3+k2)

Beau was Joe Kennedy Jr.---he was being groomed for all the marbles.
Cancer was his WW2 plane crash

Hunter is as if Ted Kennedy was next in line , not JFK or RFK.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 17, 2020 01:39 PM (HrMC1)

443 I think the ChiComs never expected to see a dime of that fund or its profits back. I think the entire $1.5Bn was a bribe. I'd love to see the books on it.
Posted by: Sharkman at Octobe

that was not my though but who knows. either way it is a bunch of fuckin $

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 01:40 PM (4Jold)

444 Hunter Biden is the Ted Kennedy of the Biden clan.

Hopefully he hasn't murdered anyone while under the influence.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 01:35 PM (p3tmI)

Are any of the hookers in those photos dead?

Which brings to mind a line from Archer about them being call girls until they're dead then they're all hookers.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 01:40 PM (lgiXo)

445 The Chicoms were definitely there, but somehow, someway, Joe's time in the building doesn't show squat.
Sure.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:39 PM (hku12)
~~~~~

Most transparent administration ever.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 01:41 PM (sGotD)

446
Hunter is the Fredo in the Biden family.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 17, 2020 01:41 PM (KATBx)

447 Actually the Enigma machine first went on sale in Germany to businesses to encrypt their communications and thus prevent competitors from it.

The German military looked at the machine and went, "hey we can use this."

Now imagine if in the 1920s British intelligence had bought an Enigma machine for study.

Instead in the 1930s it fell to group of Polish mathematicians worried about a German invasion to tackle the math behind Enigma.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 01:41 PM (p3tmI)

448 I thought it was hidden figure ladies who broke the Enigma code.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 17, 2020 01:41 PM (63Dwl)

449 >>> Now I'm wondering if the Covids on her staff are just an excuse to keep that poisonous snakes in her hair woman out of the public eyeball.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:26 PM (hku12)

=====

I'm pretty sure prior to the VP debate and the ACB hearings my wife had no idea who Harris is. Yesterday she walked into the room and said "that Harris woman is one evil b*tch! That made me think, yeah, this is the reason they are limiting her exposure.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 17, 2020 01:42 PM (umQHI)

450 At Powerline ( I think it was) article brought up is it defeating Trump seeing every debate, town hall set up by the Democrats Propaganda ministry and constantly pounding DJT with accusations and Leftist talking points?
It is a thought.

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 01:42 PM (OjZpE)

451 If one or the other or both don't wake up for morning chow the next day, so be it. Suicide. Or the Covids.

Posted by: BurtTC

My brother had a big fish tank in college with two piranha in it.

One day he just decided to stop feeding them to see what would happen. Eventually they got hungry and . . .

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:42 PM (Qio/u)

452 @Anna Purna, I had the same thought. What led me there was that Joe Kennedy Jr. was supposed to be the heir, like Beau, and then the burden was thrust onto Jack when Joe died. But then I thought, Hunter's not Jack, he's Teddy.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 17, 2020 01:42 PM (jK8Z7)

453 The Chicoms were definitely there, but somehow, someway, Joe's time in the building doesn't show squat.
Sure.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:39 PM (hku12)
~~~~~

Most transparent administration ever.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 01:41 PM (sGotD)

Hopefully that's one of the things still to drop here. After Joe's denials, to have a picture or audio of him meeting with them that day.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:43 PM (hku12)

454 Alex Plitsas
@alexplitsas
3h
My military specialization was Psychological Operations and as a civilian, I was Chief of Sensitive Activities for the Assistant Secretary for Special Operations & Low Intensity Conflict overseeing the Pentagon's most sensitive information operations. Big story coming this week.
~~~~~

Wonder what this is all about.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 01:43 PM (sGotD)

455 Chopin?!? Meh...

Posted by: David Crosby at October 17, 2020 01:44 PM (OTU0Z)

456
I thought it was hidden figure ladies who broke the Enigma code.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 17, 2020 01:41 PM

there are probably at least two dozen leftards writing their doctoral thesis right now what posits that assertion

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 17, 2020 01:44 PM (tj1pY)

457 Now I'm wondering if the Covids on her staff are just an excuse to keep that poisonous snakes in her hair woman out of the public eyeball.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:26 PM (hku12)

=====

I'm pretty sure prior to the VP debate and the ACB hearings my wife had no idea who Harris is. Yesterday she walked into the room and said "that Harris woman is one evil b*tch! That made me think, yeah, this is the reason they are limiting her exposure.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 17, 2020 01:42 PM (umQHI)

Yes, instead of turning you to stone, if you look into her eyes you immediately turn stone cold against her and never want to see her face or hear her voice ever again.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 17, 2020 01:45 PM (hku12)

458 I'm sorry, I do not see any enthusiasm on the democrat side. All those early voting lines....even if there are accuratet numbers on Dems and Reps, how do we know how Indies are voting? If you're a dem, unentusiastic about your candidate, would you wait two hours in a line to vote?There is no one turning out for Biden's speeches. There is next to no one turning out for Kamala. Republican voter registration is way up. Republicans have an unbelievable ground game. They have been getting names from every rally and able to target first time voters and there are large numbers of Dems turning out for these rallies. Colleges are shut down for the most part eliminating large voting blocs and also volunteers.I don't understand the pessimisson. Things are so much more favorable now than in 2016 and we WON.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 17, 2020 01:45 PM (sd8p8)

459 Joey was thinking royally

Beau - the Heir who is trained in the role
Hunter - the Spare who is told he's insurance.

Luckily England doesn't have to worry about Harry and Meghan being the rulers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 01:45 PM (p3tmI)

460 >>I think the ChiComs never expected to see a dime of that fund or its profits back. I think the entire $1.5Bn was a bribe. I'd love to see the books on it.

Some of it was definitely spent. One example is Henniges Automotive, a maker of dual use anti-vibration technology. That deal could only go down if it went through the Obama CFIUS process because it had military applications. And of course, it was approved. The Obama administration approved selling military technology to the CCP.

The swamp is a lot deeper than Slow Joe and Hunter.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 01:46 PM (ZLI7S)

461 @AltonJackson, that would put the black ladies versus the homes. We would have to consult zombie as to who's higher in the pecking order right now.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 17, 2020 01:47 PM (jK8Z7)

462 BRB. Save my seat.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 01:47 PM (sGotD)

463 Wonder what this is all about.

Posted by: IrishEi

It's coming from inside the government, so it will be another Deep State hit on Trump. Probably the Russia Paying Afghanis to Kill Americans lie again.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:48 PM (Qio/u)

464 I'm naive, I know,but I suspect there are a lot of straight women who are quite fond of those men the Democrats hate.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy.

Agreed. I would like to find one of those myself. (-:

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 17, 2020 01:49 PM (sd8p8)

465 Quite the possibility about Kameltoe

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 01:49 PM (OjZpE)

466 I wonder if, when Biden entered politics 47 years ago did he see it as a vehicle for wealth from the beginning.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 01:49 PM (lgiXo)

467 The Obama administration approved selling military technology to the CCP.

The swamp is a lot deeper than Slow Joe and Hunter.

Posted by: JackStraw

Don't even get me started on the sale of Uranium to Rosetom and also the Skolkovo Project.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 01:50 PM (Qio/u)

468 The Dems won't come out to vote for Biden.
They will come out to vote against Trump.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2020 01:50 PM (M/9m0)

469 @sharkman, I always thought that Chelsea's husband's "hedge fund" was one that the investors had no expectation that they would ever see a dime, but it was designed to generate "management fees" that would support the Margolies-Mezvinskys' lifestyle.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 17, 2020 01:52 PM (jK8Z7)

470
It's coming from inside the government, so it will be another Deep State hit on Trump. Probably the Russia Paying Afghanis to Kill Americans lie again.

I looked up the guy.. He seems pretty conservative

Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 01:53 PM (Zmnko)

471 Time to take Elvis for a walk.

Something to think about, the FBI seized Hunter's laptop using a grand jury subpoena. The FBI doesn't impanel a grand jury, a US Attorney does.

They aren't looking for Russian disinformation.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 01:54 PM (ZLI7S)

472 B.N. - don't they all?
Mr Smith goes to Washington is just a movie
even the Marxists are out to get rich

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 01:55 PM (OjZpE)

473
Something to think about, the FBI seized Hunter's laptop using a grand jury subpoena. The FBI doesn't impanel a grand jury, a US Attorney does.

They aren't looking for Russian disinformation.

From what I gather they have had it for nearly a year.. Trying to cover up for Joe?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 01:55 PM (Zmnko)

474 Biden pere seems genuinely stupid but setting this criminal operation in place takes a lot of cunning.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 01:56 PM (lgiXo)

475 I find it interesting that in 2018 the CEO of the Chinese energy company that was trying to hire Hunter in 2017 got arrested and then vanished. The company itself folded in 2020.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 01:56 PM (p3tmI)

476 Dr. Jill is the Queen of Dragons?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 01:56 PM (p3tmI)

477 @Anna Purna, I had the same thought. What led me there was that Joe Kennedy Jr. was supposed to be the heir, like Beau, and then the burden was thrust onto Jack when Joe died. But then I thought, Hunter's not Jack, he's Teddy.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 17, 2020 01:42 PM (jK8Z7)

Let's face it: Jack was no day at the beach himself. He was a fuck-up of the first water. Bay of Pigs, Cuban missile crisis (which he generated by impressing Khruschev in Vienna as a feckless boy), allowing Federal government workers to unionize, nailing Mafia chicks, etc.

And as for body count, Ted killed Mary Jo, but Jack killed a number of members of his crew by snoozing while supposed to be patrolling. The only instance in naval history where a PT boat was run down by a warship, which is rather like a caterpillar running down a wasp. The Navy was going to court-martial JFK for dereliction of duty, but Joe Sr. managed to head that off.

But Jack was a rare breed of fuck-up in his own right.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 01:57 PM (le94c)

478 They aren't looking for Russian disinformation.

From what I gather they have had it for nearly a year.. Trying to cover up for Joe?
Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 01:55 PM (Zmnko)

From what I read, the FBI's SOP on a politically-sensitive case like this is to investigate the hard drive thoroughly, using a ball peen hammer.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 02:01 PM (wPVhA)

479 In other news Reuters is reporting the Trump administration is moving forward to sell to the Republic of China 100 Harpoon anti-ship missiles to be used in a coastal defense role and MQ-9 drones. This follows on the administration moving forward on selling Taipei 66 Block 70 F-16C Fighting Falcons.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:01 PM (p3tmI)

480 Something to think about, the FBI seized Hunter's
laptop using a grand jury subpoena. The FBI doesn't impanel a grand
jury, a US Attorney does.

They aren't looking for Russian disinformation.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 01:54 PM (ZLI7S)

There's word floating around (and image of a document at the NYPost, but I wasn't sure what I was looking at) that the FBI's chief child sex crimes guy is involved. That said, we probably shouldn't discount the possibility that the FBI grabbed the laptop to get rid of it.

Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2020 02:01 PM (kOpft)

481 I hope the donkey identifies me as the guy with the gun at the back of their head.... because I will be.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 17, 2020 02:03 PM (pw+jk)

482 479
In other news Reuters is reporting the Trump administration is moving
forward to sell to the Republic of China 100 Harpoon anti-ship missiles
to be used in a coastal defense role and MQ-9 drones. This follows on
the administration moving forward on selling Taipei 66 Block 70 F-16C
Fighting Falcons.

Heh, excellent. How do you say "F*** you" in Mandarin?

Posted by: pep at October 17, 2020 02:03 PM (v16oJ)

483 , I always thought that Chelsea's husband's "hedge fund" was one that the investors had no expectation that they would ever see a dime, but it was designed to generate "management fees" that would support the Margolies-Mezvinskys' lifestyle.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon

Completely agree.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 02:05 PM (Qio/u)

484 From what I read, the FBI's SOP on a
politically-sensitive case like this is to investigate the hard drive
thoroughly, using a ball peen hammer.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at October 17, 2020 02:01 PM (wPVhA)

===
Opps. An intern accidentally put the alleged Hunter Biden lap top into our Muffin Muncher. Only story we have now is that it was all Russia to help Trump win.

Posted by: Top Men at the FBI at October 17, 2020 02:05 PM (pw+jk)

485 Use to tell polish jokes. Now I do strictly Democrat jokes.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at October 17, 2020 02:06 PM (Ski5c)

486 Heh, excellent. How do you say "F*** you" in Mandarin?

Posted by: pep

Cao ni!

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 02:06 PM (Qio/u)

487 Two stories from Allahpundit, showing simultaneously on HA.
Trump campaign manager pessimistic about election: sees three narrow paths to win

Memo from Biden campaign manager: Our polling shows Trump is neck and neck with us in the battlegrounds

Well, which is it? Trump is doomed, or Trump is very competitive? You don't even need to look at who wrote it to know.

Posted by: pep at October 17, 2020 02:08 PM (v16oJ)

488 omething to think about, the FBI seized Hunter's
laptop using a grand jury subpoena. The FBI doesn't impanel a grand
jury, a US Attorney does.

They aren't looking for Russian disinformation.

Posted by: JackStraw at Octobe

the thing about the hd is that the repair guy offered it to the fbi in NM and they told him fuck off.

then some time later the fbi went to him in DE.

How was it that the offer in NM was communicated to the fbi in DE?

Somebody in the fbi had to have mad a note about the NM offer and somebody in DE or somewhere else had to become aware of the offer.

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 02:09 PM (4Jold)

489 It's coming from inside the government, so it will be another Deep State hit on Trump. Probably the Russia Paying Afghanis to Kill Americans lie again.

I looked up the guy.. He seems pretty conservative

Posted by: It's me donna

Hmmmmmm . . .

*taps chin, pondering*

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 02:10 PM (Qio/u)

490 483 , I always thought that Chelsea's husband's "hedge fund" was one that the investors had no expectation that they would ever see a dime, but it was designed to generate "management fees" that would support the Margolies-Mezvinskys' lifestyle.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon

Completely agree.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 02:05 PM (Qio/u)

It was obviously a money-laundering scheme. All those savvy qualified investors getting in on the ground floor of those good good Greek bonds. Wait, what? We lost all that money? No, tell me it isn't so. At least we got a "thank you" note from the DNC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 02:11 PM (le94c)

491 I always thought that Chelsea's husband's "hedge fund" was one that the investors had no expectation that they would ever see a dime, but it was designed to generate "management fees" that would support the Margolies-Mezvinskys' lifestyle.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon

Completely agree.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 02:05 PM (Qio/u)

It was obviously a money-laundering scheme. All those savvy qualified investors getting in on the ground floor of those good good Greek bonds. Wait, what? We lost all that money? No, tell me it isn't so. At least we got a "thank you" note from the DNC.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at Octobe

didn't he close the fund, return the $

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 02:12 PM (4Jold)

492 Right now they are and in a big way.

I'm hoping it burns out soon.
Posted by: Ha
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Not really, at least not in Michigan, Wisconsin, or Florida.

We will see if it changes in Florida, but right now Dems only have a 20 point lead in ballots returned. They need 40+.

Things might change when the EV locations open, but as of right now the Dems are in trouble on Florida absentee. Only 45% of their absentees are in, they were expecting over 60%.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2020 02:12 PM (5p7BC)

493 It was obviously a money-laundering scheme. All those savvy qualified investors getting in on the ground floor of those good good Greek bonds. Wait, what? We lost all that money? No, tell me it isn't so. At least we got a "thank you" note from the DNC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

For The Democrats, money-laundering is the primary goal. Politics is just the way they attain that goal.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 02:13 PM (Qio/u)

494 didn't he close the fund, return the $
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 02:12 PM (4Jold)

Didn't hear that one. I read that he "lost his shirt" in the Greek bonds. Totally unforeseeable. Coulda happened to anyone.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 02:14 PM (le94c)

495 Didn't hear that one. I read that he "lost his shirt" in the Greek bonds. Totally unforeseeable. Coulda happened to anyone.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at Octobe

I read the greek thing too.

Who woulda guessed?

He did close the fund, return the $, but who knows how much her returned to who.

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 02:15 PM (4Jold)

496 Bill Clinton let Lorain sell Red China MIRV warhead technology

Posted by: JM in Florida at October 17, 2020 02:15 PM (HCeRP)

497 Japan has unveiled the first of its next generation attack subs which is expected to enter service in 2022. The Taigei has a 3,000 ton displacement, a crew of 70, and runs on Lithium-ion batteries. Seven of these subs are expected to be built by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. The Japanese Defense Minister and the JMSDF Chief of Staff were in attendance at the unveiling in the Kobe shipyard this past Wednesday.

Everyone with two brain cells is worried about the Chinese dragon extending its claws.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:17 PM (p3tmI)

498 Lorain should Loral Corp

Posted by: JM in Florida at October 17, 2020 02:17 PM (HCeRP)

499 477---But Jack was a rare breed of fuck-up in his own right.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 01:57 PM (le94c)
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Oh, yeah.
We never hear the full story of the PT boat.

And we are endlessly told what a hero JFK was in the Cuban Missile Crisis, when, as you point out, his weakness invited it --- and his weakness failed to deal with it. If you are supposedly risking a nuclear war to keep missiles out of Cuba, then get rid of Castro while you're at it. High risk demands a high reward.

Instead JFK handed over Cuba to the Soviets as a base of military, terror, and propaganda operations ---with its "independence" guaranteed by the US!
What a drug-addled idiot.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2020 02:19 PM (M/9m0)

500 Re money-laundering, see also book "sales."

Have a comradely publisher pay a hefty advance to your poxy candidate, have someone ghostwrite a book, buy up a shitload of copies (on which said candidate gets royalties), shooting the book onto the bestseller lists, warehouse the copies, then later dribble them out and recover a bit of your investment.

Candidate is happy, publisher is happy, leftist tycoon is happy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 02:19 PM (le94c)

501 Re money-laundering, see also book "sales."

Have a comradely publisher pay a hefty advance to your poxy candidate, have someone ghostwrite a book, buy up a shitload of copies (on which said candidate gets royalties), shooting the book onto the bestseller lists, warehouse the copies, then later dribble them out and recover a bit of your investment.

Candidate is happy, publisher is happy, leftist tycoon is happy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at Octobe

yes

board seats
media deal
movie deal

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 02:21 PM (4Jold)

502 Book publishing deals.

Tom Foley is still that kid who got curb-stomped.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:21 PM (p3tmI)

503 >>> In other news Reuters is reporting the Trump administration is moving forward to sell to the Republic of China 100 Harpoon anti-ship missiles to be used in a coastal defense role and MQ-9 drones. This follows on the administration moving forward on selling Taipei 66 Block 70 F-16C Fighting Falcons.

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Wait. I'm confused. Should that be Taiwan?

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 17, 2020 02:21 PM (umQHI)

504 And we are endlessly told what a hero JFK was in the Cuban Missile Crisis, when, as you point out, his weakness invited it --- and his weakness failed to deal with it. If you are supposedly risking a nuclear war to keep missiles out of Cuba, then get rid of Castro while you're at it. High risk demands a high reward.

Instead JFK handed over Cuba to the Soviets as a base of military, terror, and propaganda operations ---with its "independence" guaranteed by the US!
What a drug-addled idiot.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2020 02:19 PM (M/9m0)

Yep. The true hero of the Cuban missile crisis? Oleg Penkovsky. He told US intelligence that the Soviets were bluffing, and would cave if pushed. Penkovsky paid with his life, which was taken in an especially gory way.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 02:21 PM (le94c)

505 Wait. I'm confused. Should that be Taiwan?
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at Octobe

you forgot the sarc tag

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 02:22 PM (4Jold)

506 Re money-laundering, see also book "sales."

Have a comradely publisher pay a hefty advance to your poxy candidate, have someone ghostwrite a book, buy up a shitload of copies (on which said candidate gets royalties), shooting the book onto the bestseller lists, warehouse the copies, then later dribble them out and recover a bit of your investment.

Candidate is happy, publisher is happy, leftist tycoon is happy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at O

There are so many unreadable books by Democrats. This makes sense.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 02:22 PM (lgiXo)

507 The country's real name is the Republic of China with Taipei as the capital.

Taiwan? Might as well call it Formosa.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:22 PM (p3tmI)

508 501 Re money-laundering, see also book "sales."

Have a comradely publisher pay a hefty advance to your poxy candidate, have someone ghostwrite a book, buy up a shitload of copies (on which said candidate gets royalties), shooting the book onto the bestseller lists, warehouse the copies, then later dribble them out and recover a bit of your investment.

Candidate is happy, publisher is happy, leftist tycoon is happy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at Octobe

yes

board seats
media deal
movie deal
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 02:21 PM (4Jold)

Speaking of which, where is that Obama book he got the hefty advance for? Is Bill Ayers too busy to write it?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 17, 2020 02:23 PM (jK8Z7)

509 How many copies of What Happened actually got honestly sold?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 02:24 PM (lgiXo)

510 >>> 507 The country's real name is the Republic of China with Taipei as the capital.

Taiwan? Might as well call it Formosa.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:22 PM (p3tmI)

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Thank you. Learn something new every day.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 17, 2020 02:24 PM (umQHI)

511 *blinks*

Vietnam may be buying military equipment from Japan.

Beijing really knows how to charm people...

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:25 PM (p3tmI)

512 There are so many unreadable books by Democrats. This makes sense.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 02:22 PM (lgiXo)

Exactly. Consider Obama's crappy book. On the bestseller lists, but no one has apparently ever read it. Remember when the "dog-eating" scandal broke, and "journalists" scampered to debunk that as a racist smear? They hadn't read Obama's book either, where he plainly says he ate a dog. He said it again when he read it aloud in the audio book version.

Bestseller, but nobody's read it. Oh. OK.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 02:26 PM (le94c)

513 495 Didn't hear that one. I read that he "lost his shirt" in the Greek bonds. Totally unforeseeable. Coulda happened to anyone.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at Octobe

I read the greek thing too.

Who woulda guessed?

He did close the fund, return the $, but who knows how much her returned to who.

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 02:15 PM (4Jold)

According to Wiki, Eaglevale Partners operated from 2011 to 2016. Hmmm, what event in 2016 could have caused him to close the fund?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 17, 2020 02:26 PM (jK8Z7)

514 Vietnam may be buying military equipment from Japan.

Beijing really knows how to charm people...
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:25 PM (p3tmI)

There's no love lost between Vietnam and China. Recall that they actually fought each other after the Vietnam War ended. (I've forgotten when.)

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 02:27 PM (le94c)

515 According to Wiki, Eaglevale Partners operated from 2011 to 2016. Hmmm, what event in 2016 could have caused him to close the fund?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at O

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2020 02:27 PM (4Jold)

516 492--Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2020 02:12 PM (5p7BC)
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I really appreciate your FL reports in particular.

My cousin, who is working with a couple of pro-Trump Latino groups down there, is normally an Eeyore but has been very upbeat lately.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2020 02:27 PM (M/9m0)

517 The country's real name is the Republic of China with Taipei as the capital.

Taiwan? Might as well call it Formosa.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:22 PM (p3tmI)

Is "Taiwan" the name for the Chinese province? One we use as a polite fiction (since they have the only representative and therefore legitimate government "in" China).

Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2020 02:27 PM (kOpft)

518 Exactly. Consider Obama's crappy book. On the bestseller lists, but no one has apparently ever read it. Remember when the "dog-eating" scandal broke, and "journalists" scampered to debunk that as a racist smear? They hadn't read Obama's book either, where he plainly says he ate a dog. He said it again when he read it aloud in the audio book version.

Bestseller, but nobody's read it. Oh. OK.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at

It got great reviews but nobody read it.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 02:28 PM (lgiXo)

519 Jay I know.

But when Vietnam was still French Indochina, the Imperial Japanese Army occupied the place. It was Japanese planes flying from French Indochina airbases that sank Prince of Wales and Repulse.

So for Vietnam to talk to the Japanese is pretty telling.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:29 PM (p3tmI)

520 Everywhere I look Michelle Obama's book is being recommended to me.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 02:29 PM (lgiXo)

521 518 Exactly. Consider Obama's crappy book. On the bestseller lists, but no one has apparently ever read it. Remember when the "dog-eating" scandal broke, and "journalists" scampered to debunk that as a racist smear? They hadn't read Obama's book either, where he plainly says he ate a dog. He said it again when he read it aloud in the audio book version.

Bestseller, but nobody's read it. Oh. OK.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at

It got great reviews but nobody read it.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 02:28 PM (lgiXo)

He got the advance for his first book while he was still in law school. How could that have possibly been legit? He was groomed from the get-go.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 17, 2020 02:30 PM (jK8Z7)

522 Democrat book publishing is the primary laundering operation of the Left.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at October 17, 2020 02:30 PM (mt2jL)

523 Yeah calling the place Taiwan is being polite to not offend Peiking.

Screw that. They are the Republic of China.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:31 PM (p3tmI)

524 517 The country's real name is the Republic of China with Taipei as the capital.

Taiwan? Might as well call it Formosa.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:22 PM (p3tmI)

Is "Taiwan" the name for the Chinese province? One we use as a polite fiction (since they have the only representative and therefore legitimate government "in" China).
Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2020 02:27 PM (kOpft)

I think the Island is named Taiwan. English called it Formosa.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 02:31 PM (vMCab)

525 I wonder if, when Biden entered politics 47 years ago did he see it as a vehicle for wealth from the beginning.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 01:49 PM (lgiXo)

Of course he did. All democrats run with feathering their nests first and foremost.

Now, Old Joe was probably thinking free meals, a nice trip here and there and an occasional handy. But he had no idea how stupid the voters are and how corrupt our government could become.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2020 02:32 PM (Z+IKu)

526 500---.... later dribble them out and recover a bit of your investment....
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 02:19 PM (le94c)
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And where do you dribble them? To libraries, schools, and colleges --- all controlled by the Left! And they'll buy at least two copies, with taxpayers' money!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2020 02:32 PM (M/9m0)

527 The little league team called themselves Taiwan . That's good enough for me. By the way, they were all cheating teenagers.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at October 17, 2020 02:33 PM (mt2jL)

528 Texts from Hunter Biden to his father (that were published in today's "NY Post") indicate that because of his addiction Hunter felt that he was a real screw up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2020 02:33 PM (WkPC9)

529 I'm not worried about FL.

But in WI the ballot return rate for the second biggest county which is deep blue Dane county is 68%.

And it's only October 17th.

It's still early to draw conclusions but Dems are coming out.

I'm in the Sean Davis camp, I don't know who will win.

In NC there are already 277k votes from people who didn't vote in 16.

Posted by: Ha at October 17, 2020 02:34 PM (+jNil)

530 286 A family friend (female) went to Great Britain about 20 years ago as part of a year-long exchange program. Unfortunately now I can't remember where exactly, but in the country not downtown London.

She's jewish, and the folks at her school found that fascinating, they'd never met any jews before her arrival.

...

Posted by: Boots at October 17, 2020 12:38 PM (oGBso)
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Spy Magazine did an issue on "Great" Britain (cover had Princess Di with bad teeth) and one of the anecdotes was about a group of Brits touring New York and remarking "Look at all the Jews!" and pointing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Counter-Revolutionary She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 17, 2020 02:34 PM (Dc2NZ)

531 *pauses*

Joe standing in the doorway to Hunter's room. "Where did you learn this!!!!"

Hunter, "I learned it from you Dad!!!"

Wasn't that a don't do drugs commercial?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:35 PM (p3tmI)

532 There's no love lost between Vietnam and China. Recall that they actually fought each other after the Vietnam War ended. (I've forgotten when.)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 02:27 PM (le94c)

Over the Paracels (1979?).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Counter-Revolutionary She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 17, 2020 02:36 PM (Dc2NZ)

533 A friend of mine, an immigrant from Poland and former member of Solidarity, told me that Reagan is God in Poland.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 01:26 PM (

I was there right before an official visit from JPII. It was fuuuuckin' crazy. There was even Papist street graffiti from the local hoodlums.

The only thing I ever saw close to it was when he came to Denver, actually. Every hotel room for three hundred miles was booked. When I got into town, people were lined up by the Popemobile route in lawn chairs at 2am.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 02:36 PM (eXmcp)

534 Taiwan was controlled by Japan from 1895 to 1945. The Chinese ceded the island after being beaten-up in the First Sino-Japanese War, 1894-95.

The Japanese aircraft that bombed Manila and nearby US military facilities at the beginning of the Pacific War were based on Taiwan (Formosa).

Posted by: Gref at October 17, 2020 02:37 PM (AMIL/)

535 The Boxer Rebellion was five years later. And Japan was one of the occupying powers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:39 PM (p3tmI)

536 This YouTube video helped me understand the threat to Taiwan. Taiwan would give RedChina more security for the region, and if they were allied with the US (and other of our allies) would be more of a threat (except we are not expansionist, the CCP is).

https://tinyurl.com/yy2fa5of

China seems to be threatening everyone in the region, not to mention much of the world via their virus attack and predatory lending, and buying up resources everywhere. They also infiltrate political structures and any influence they can creep into.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 17, 2020 02:39 PM (Cus5s)

537 I wonder if the Japs will ever sell their Howa Type 64 or their Type 89 rifles on the surplus market?

A man can dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2020 02:40 PM (Z+IKu)

538 Anna Puma - thanks for the Japanese sub info ..... it's quite scandalous how lax I have become in following such things.

But related - a few years ago I happened to meet one of the Japanese naval officers who was then assigned to Annapolis (as I recall he said there was usually one engineering officer, and one other officer like him, so assigned at any time). A very, very prestigious gig in the Japanese naval service, understandably.

He had been the executive officer on a Japanese sub. Sadly I didn't insist on getting his business card, just curious how he did after that, though fairly confident when he returned to Japan he'd get his own sub command or other senior spot.

And I've happened to see JMSDF subs in dry-dock at the Mistubishi yard in Kobe several times while visiting there (from afar, not at the yard myself).

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2020 02:40 PM (OTzUX)

539 Of course, if you search in Wiki, Republic of China, it redirects to the Taiwan page. Not surprised.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 17, 2020 02:41 PM (umQHI)

540 Everywhere I look Michelle Obama's book is being recommended to me.

A pleasant young black woman I talked to today in the PA Dutch market was wearing a tee shirt that had a whole bunch of successful blacks in their fields and the shirt said things like "write like Maya Angelou," Compose like Samuel Coleridge Taylor." and there were a bunch of others-most of whom I didn't know of, and I didn't want to be staring at her chest. However, the first thing was "Inspire like Michelle Obama" Really?. Is she that inspirational to black women?. I guess I got a clue on why because the young woman is a t.v. studies major and some day she hopes to direct for Netflix. Uggh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2020 02:43 PM (WkPC9)

541 Polock / Polack

I don't care what you call us
But don't call us dumb

Posted by: kactus at October 17, 2020 02:43 PM (efWJQ)

542 539 Of course, if you search in Wiki, Republic of China, it redirects to the Taiwan page. Not surprised.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 17, 2020 02:41 PM (umQHI)

They do say "Officially Republic of China." And to be fair, they do for North Korea say "Officially Democratic People's Republic of Korea." South Korea works the same way.

Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 02:45 PM (vMCab)

543 Posting to Annapolis?

Smart move on the Japanese. cycle officers through to absorb their ally's way of thinking. Or enemy's thinking, cf Yamamoto Naval Attache. And to get that post, the officer has to be really sharp.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:46 PM (p3tmI)

544 Think the Chi-Nah/Nam scrap was '78, border clash (Chinese instruction to Hanoi over britches getting too big - see Cambodia, and warring positions of the two countries there). Second great V'mese emigration to the US (boat people) was occasioned by this - one can (probably still) sort of tell which wave a given area's Vietnamese-American population was part of by how much Chinese signage is seen.

And Vietnamese wariness/resentment of Chi-Nah is kind of a defining aspect of their national identity, after eons of being a small province in the empire, more or less.

It's even seen in the satisfaction/pride in the only romanized alphabet of a tonal Asian language (bequeathed by the colonialist French, a Portuguese Jesuit, I think, did the actual work).

And while not a positive experience, the Vietnamese experience under Japanese occupation was much less brutal or negative than seen elsewhere - for some of the time for part of the country, it was sort of a hybrid thing anyway. Vichy France still technically ran many things, the colonial govt. co-existed with the Japanese.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2020 02:46 PM (OTzUX)

545 But don't call us dumb

So why did you choose to live in the only flat space between Germany and Russia?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2020 02:47 PM (q2K0j)

546 Oh, what a brain-addled, psychopathic commie puppet I am.

Posted by: Gropin' Uncle Joe Biden at October 17, 2020 02:48 PM (EgshT)

547 So why did you choose to live in the only flat space between Germany and Russia?

The rent was cheap?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:49 PM (p3tmI)

548 >>>
They do say "Officially Republic of China." And to be fair, they do for North Korea say "Officially Democratic People's Republic of Korea." South Korea works the same way.
Posted by: buzzion at October 17, 2020 02:45 PM (vMCab)

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Funny, I went back read that more carefully, and actually was going to post it. Then I thought, "I'm probably the only here that didn't know that, so I'm just going to shut up now!"

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 17, 2020 02:49 PM (umQHI)

549 So why did you choose to live in the only flat space between Germany and Russia?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2020 02:47 PM (q2K0j

Attempts to move the Alps to Poland have not yet succeeded.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at October 17, 2020 02:50 PM (lgiXo)

550 Anna as I recall he said there were two slots, one for an engineering officer who would teach at Annapolis in a technical field, and one like him who would sort of lecture on leadership and command issues, and participate in panels, etc.

And of course while he didn't say it, I confidently assume these two slots were among the most, if not the most, coveted assignments in a naval officer's career in Japan at the moment. Seems logical.

His English was outstanding. Really enjoyed talking with him - he was very happy to talk some WWII sub stuff.

If this place did photos I would post one of my favorite photos. A sea of Rising Sun flags on JMSDF ships at Kure, where we were touring a ship.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2020 02:51 PM (OTzUX)

551 My chemist son is currently working in the Netherlands.
NONE of his cow-orkers is Dutch, although all of the technical support people are. His group consists of a Jap, a Dotindian, a Moldovan, 2 Italians, a Polak, and an Austrian.

They don't talk politics much but the Jap, Polak, and Moldovan were PLEASANTLY surprised that son is not anti-Trump. They thought all educated Americans hated him.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2020 02:52 PM (M/9m0)

552 One of the policies of the old Rhino Party in Canada wae to move the Rockies to Manitoba.

To be clear they were comedic.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at October 17, 2020 02:52 PM (lgiXo)

553 So why did you choose to live in the only flat space between Germany and Russia?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2020 02:47 PM (q2K0j)

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I know you're kidding... But the reason people live in Poland and Ukraine instead of running away from the hordes of barbarian marauders on all sides, is the dirt. The finest, blackest soil on a hungry continent.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2020 02:53 PM (eXmcp)

554 Joe's right. Democrats did stop showing up at working class events like the Polish-American Club. He sold their borders to illegal aliens, their safety to criminals, their traditions to transgendered extremists and their jobs out to China.

For a nominal fee.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 17, 2020 02:53 PM (Ndje9)

555 IrishEli-
Where was the story about the psy-ops chief from? Do you think it is a dem "October surprise"?

Posted by: Megthered at October 17, 2020 02:54 PM (SM/op)

556 545

So why did you choose to live in the only flat space between Germany and Russia?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2020 02:47 PM (q2K0j)
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Same reason the Jews settled in the crossroads of Egypt and the great Mesopotamian empires! It sharpens the wits!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2020 02:55 PM (M/9m0)

557 But in WI the ballot return rate for the second biggest county which is deep blue Dane county is 68%.

And it's only October 17th
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Ballot return in WI was 1:1 D/R as of 3 days ago.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 17, 2020 02:55 PM (5p7BC)

558 Rhomboid,

Maybe write up a post on the arms race to keep China at bay. Submit it to the CoBs. And use that photo.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2020 02:55 PM (p3tmI)

559 Has to be Taiwan for these missiles, my faith in Donny Two-scoops wou I'd go to 0 if it is the Chi-Coms.

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 02:56 PM (OjZpE)

560 So why did you choose to live in the only flat space between Germany and Russia?

Posted by: Bandersnatch

Well, the damn Eye-talicans already stole the valley where we keep our river (the Po), so we had to land up sonewhere.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 02:56 PM (Qio/u)

561 It sharpens the wits!

Heh. I like that one.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2020 02:57 PM (q2K0j)

562 And almost $1g poorer from my truck, son of a bitch.

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 02:57 PM (OjZpE)

563 All I can say is that my Taiwanese sister-in-law calls it Taiwan. She's as anti-CCP as you can get.

When you say "The Republic of China," people get confused. And SIL does not want to be confused with commie Chinese.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2020 03:00 PM (M/9m0)

564 So why did you choose to live in the only flat space between Germany and Russia?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2020 02:47 PM (q2K0j)

Where the hell else can you grow
pierogi and golabki

huh?

Posted by: kactus at October 17, 2020 03:00 PM (efWJQ)

565 PET NOOD IS UP

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at October 17, 2020 03:01 PM (OjZpE)

566 CBD otter do a Food Thread on Polyak cuisine.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Counter-Revolutionary She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 17, 2020 03:03 PM (Dc2NZ)

567 560---Well, the damn Eye-talicans already stole the valley where we keep our river (the Po), so we had to land up sonewhere.
Posted by: Sharkman at October 17, 2020 02:56 PM (Qio/u)
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Dirty colonizers!
Reparations, I say! Reparations!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at October 17, 2020 03:03 PM (M/9m0)

568 Now is when all threads but Pet die by my experience

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at October 17, 2020 03:04 PM (OjZpE)

569 520 Everywhere I look Michelle Obama's book is being recommended to me.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 02:29 PM (lgiXo)

Do you have a table with a wobble?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 03:05 PM (le94c)

570 Where was the story about the psy-ops chief from? Do you think it is a dem "October surprise"?
Posted by: Megthered at October 17, 2020 02:54 PM (SM/op)
~~~~~

It was just a tweet by Alex Plitsas. I have no real knowledge about him, but he has conservative bona fides and is followed on Twitter by a bunch of good people. I guess we'll just have to wait until next week.*grumble grumble*

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 03:05 PM (sGotD)

571 Thanks IrishEli. I think sounds like something to do with the Biden camp. I'm worried that the dems are cooking up something but I think this Biden news has knocked them back.

Posted by: Megthered at October 17, 2020 03:08 PM (SM/op)

572 Pets thread is up

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at October 17, 2020 03:09 PM (VcFUs)

573 B.N. Why? Not the best boat anchor on the market

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at October 17, 2020 03:09 PM (OjZpE)

574 >>> Now is when all threads but Pet die by my experience
Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at October 17, 2020 03:04 PM (OjZpE)

======

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm not usually around, but too cold and windy to be outside, not watching sportsball this year, so here I am.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at October 17, 2020 03:10 PM (umQHI)

575 55 IrishEli-
Where was the story about the psy-ops chief from? Do you think it is a dem "October surprise"?
Posted by: Megthered at O

Don't think so.. I looked him up and he is Conservative

Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2020 03:11 PM (Zmnko)

576 Well, I see Clemmins is sneaking by South Carolina 59-7 late in the 3rd.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at October 17, 2020 03:11 PM (YqED9)

577 562 And almost $1g poorer from my truck, son of a bitch.
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 02:57 PM (OjZpE)

yikes

Posted by: m at October 17, 2020 03:11 PM (LTs8q)

578 569 520 Everywhere I look Michelle Obama's book is being recommended to me.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at October 17, 2020 02:29 PM (lgiXo)

Do you have a table with a wobble?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 03:05 PM (le94c)

heh

Posted by: m at October 17, 2020 03:14 PM (LTs8q)

579 I suppose I'll have to try them, if Target is similarly stupid. Anybody know? I don't want to buy a TV I haven't actually seen the picture on.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 17, 2020 12:21 PM

Best Buy and other mass retailers are no way to critically assess TVs anyway. The display sets are never set up properly or consistently. You're better off checking reviews and discussions on enthusiast sites such as AVS Forums and Rtings.com and then ordering online.

Posted by: Bigsmith at October 17, 2020 03:15 PM (G/mW5)

580 Where was the story about the psy-ops chief from? Do you think it is a dem "October surprise"?

Posted by: Megthered at October 17, 2020 02:54 PM (SM/op)

~~~~~

It was just a tweet by Alex Plitsas. I have no real knowledge about
him, but he has conservative bona fides and is followed on Twitter by a
bunch of good people. I guess we'll just have to wait until next
week.*grumble grumble*

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 03:05 PM (sGotD)

There was a woman who used to work with Alex Jones, who got arrested days before releasing a report claiming CIA psyops mechanisms/technology (like twitter bots, not woo woo) were being used to push a color revolution here of the sort they've done elsewhere. It might be related to that.

Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2020 03:15 PM (kOpft)

581 rhomboid, if I'm not mistaken the Japanese occupation of Indochina was characterized as more of a protectorate than an annexation. Japan was already at war with China and they wanted to cut off resupply to China from Haiphong. In 1940 they occupied northern Indochina, then the southern part in 1941. They finally took over in a coup in March 1945 and installed puppet governments in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia, concerned that as France was liberated the French Indochina administration would support the Allies. Those boundaries established the nations that exist today.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at October 17, 2020 03:18 PM (jK8Z7)

582 Ted Nugent playing the anthem at the Muskegon rally is awesome!

I know this thread is probably dead but I couldn't mention it on the Pet Thread.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 17, 2020 03:25 PM (5FCda)

583 Not completely dead, GG. I was born and raised in Muskegon and made a
mental note a few days ago to tune in today to PDT's rally there. I
forgot all about it until your post. Thanks for the heads up. I'm off
to search for a live stream.

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 03:28 PM (a3we3)

584 Do you have a table with a wobble?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 17, 2020 03:05 PM (le94c)
~~~~~

I'm ashamed to say it took me way too long to get that.

LOL

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 03:32 PM (sGotD)

585 The reason why Joe Biden calls Polish dumb is the same reason any democrat accuses anyone else of anything: they are actually talking about themselves and what they are doing.
I refer you to all things Trump has been accused of.

Posted by: keena at October 17, 2020 03:32 PM (RiTnx)

586 Listening to the Carrot-top and the Midget podcast and Alex used the descriptive "goat-felching".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Counter-Revolutionary She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 17, 2020 03:35 PM (Dc2NZ)

587 There was a woman who used to work with Alex Jones, who got arrested days before releasing a report claiming CIA psyops mechanisms/technology (like twitter bots, not woo woo) were being used to push a color revolution here of the sort they've done elsewhere. It might be related to that.
Posted by: Methos at October 17, 2020 03:15 PM (kOpft)
~~~~~

Is that Millie something-or-other, or maybe the other lady, Tore? There's also another associate of theirs called Bergy (sp?) I'm not sure what to make of them yet, but I check them out on Twitter now and then just to see what's up.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 03:37 PM (sGotD)

588 Alex used the descriptive "goat-felching".

She is sui generis.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2020 03:37 PM (q2K0j)

589 Gun talk? Ooh, I gotta share.

Here in Canada, a possession and acquisition license (PAL) is required to possess and acquire some types of guns and a restricted PAL for others.

I got both on Thursday and tomorrow is shopping day. So far, I'm only interested in a .22lr as it's the perfect tool to put bullet holes in paper targets, which is all I want to do.

I don't expect any burning times coming up soon but if I'm wrong, a .22 is better than nothing so I'll be buying as much ammo as I can carry. And ammo will be cheaper and more available tomorrow than next week/month/year.

Oh yeah, since ammo is kinda useless without a gun, I'll also be picking up a Tikka T1X.

Posted by: all doubt removed at October 17, 2020 03:37 PM (S2eH9)

590 If Biden's plethora of asinine comments through which he has disparaged a whole lot of individuals and groups ever reached the light of day, Trump would bury him on election day.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 17, 2020 03:39 PM (EgshT)

591 She is sui generis.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 17, 2020 03:37 PM (q2K0j)
--

She is beautiful and terrible as the morning and the night! All shall love Her and despair!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Counter-Revolutionary She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 17, 2020 03:40 PM (Dc2NZ)

592 I just want the whole world to know about this spell caster I met
two weeks ago

Posted by: Micheal Pan at October 17, 2020 03:43 PM (AYaY2)

593 Ted Nugent playing the anthem at the Muskegon rally is awesome!

I know this thread is probably dead but I couldn't mention it on the Pet Thread.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 17, 2020 03:25
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Just went to Right Side Broadcasting YT feed and saw I missed Nugent. What time does PDT arrive?

After this rally in Muskegon he's heading to Janesville, WI. Wonder if Paul Ryan will be there? Isn't he from there?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at October 17, 2020 03:45 PM (iEx0u)

594
Posted by: Micheal Pan at October 17, 2020 03:43 PM (AYaY2)

oh, thank you!!

I had mis-placed the phone number; it was like someone had cast a spell of despair over me

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 17, 2020 03:46 PM (tj1pY)

595 Now we have spells for sale? I miss the more traditional machines and wigs.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 17, 2020 03:46 PM (EgshT)

596 Hey Mike. Come back when you've got lace wigs.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 17, 2020 03:48 PM (sGotD)

597 If Biden's plethora of asinine comments through which he has disparaged a whole lot of individuals and groups ever reached the light of day, Trump would bury him on election day.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 17, 2020 03:39 PM (EgshT)

Ya Think?

Posted by: The MSM at October 17, 2020 03:49 PM (HrMC1)

598 Do they have spells for U g g s ?

Posted by: db at October 17, 2020 03:50 PM (E0PSG)

599 I wonder if that dude can put a spell on Brennan?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 17, 2020 03:52 PM (EgshT)

600 I remember as a child that Get Smart was still using Formosa instead of Taiwan.

Posted by: andycanuck at October 17, 2020 03:54 PM (an7Mv)

601 Just went to Right Side Broadcasting YT feed and saw I missed Nugent. What time does PDT arrive?

After this rally in Muskegon he's heading to Janesville, WI. Wonder if Paul Ryan will be there? Isn't he from there?
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at October 17, 2020 03:45 PM (iEx0u)

No idea what time PDT will arrive, olddog...sorry. I've had the RSBN tab open in the background since noon when they said the rally was supposed to start!

And yes, Paul Ryan is from Janesville.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 17, 2020 03:54 PM (5FCda)

602 But in WI the ballot return rate for the second biggest county which is deep blue Dane county is 68%.

And it's only October 17th

That's part of the plan.
The Democrats will raise a big stink about more Dem ballots being returned than Republican and claim it's suppression and go to court to ensure that "every BALLOTT be counted."

Posted by: JoeF. at October 17, 2020 03:55 PM (HrMC1)

603 Not completely dead, GG. I was born and raised in Muskegon and made a
mental note a few days ago to tune in today to PDT's rally there. I
forgot all about it until your post. Thanks for the heads up. I'm off
to search for a live stream.
Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 03:28 PM (a3we3)

YW! Glad I mentioned it now. :-)

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 17, 2020 04:00 PM (5FCda)

604 -
at October 17, 2020 03:43 PM (AYaY2)
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No lace wig spells? Sad!

Posted by: irright at October 17, 2020 04:06 PM (RVcmP)

605 What a beautiful day.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2020 04:07 PM (ZLI7S)

606 Gaelic Girl, looks like PDT may be at Muskegon 4p CT.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at October 17, 2020 04:08 PM (iEx0u)

607 592 A crummy commercial?

Throws decoder ring away

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 04:08 PM (OjZpE)

608 Gaelic Girl, looks like PDT may be at Muskegon 4p CT.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at October 17, 2020 04:08 PM (iEx0u)

Thanks!

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 17, 2020 04:15 PM (5FCda)

609 Late to the thread, but it doesn't seem anyone has mentioned another contribution made by the Poles:

Reverse Polish Notation (RPN). You list the values and then the operator: a simple example is (2 2 +) = 4.

It seems awkward, but it is really great when doing complex operations on a handheld calculator. The RPN nerds know of what I speak.

My Hewlett Packard model 50 was my constant companion while getting my engineering degree.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 17, 2020 04:18 PM (pJWtt)

610 5 PM EST and Muskegon, Michigan
7 PM EST Janesville, Wisconsin

RSBN
https://youtu.be/iUFhuZan3eU

CSPAN
https://www.c-span.org/video/?476981-1/
president-trump-holds-rally-muskegon-mi&live

Posted by: Braenyard at October 17, 2020 04:19 PM (hPGuH)

611 My tablet gives me Leftist news,
Fox - Michigan Gov Whitmer vetoes " fearmongering" bill targeting voter fraud
Would have made it a felony to apply for multiple absentee ballots
She claimed it would muddy the waters and is unnecessary

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 04:20 PM (OjZpE)

612 So there's this billboard i keep seeing in PA that's supposed to be a a picture of Trump and Putin shaking hands in the white field of the Russian flag....

But i just realized another reason that stupid shit has been pissing me off.... it's the French flag!!!!!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 17, 2020 04:25 PM (6FeV1)

613 So there's this billboard i keep seeing in PA that's supposed to be a a picture of Trump and Putin shaking hands in the white field of the Russian flag....

But i just realized another reason that stupid shit has been pissing me off.... it's the French flag!!!!!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 17, 2020 04:25 PM (6FeV1)

Lafayette for the win!

Posted by: JoeF. at October 17, 2020 04:31 PM (HrMC1)

614 Lafayette for the win!
Posted by: JoeF. at October 17, 2020 04:31 PM (HrMC1)

Jacobin collusion!!!!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 17, 2020 04:32 PM (6FeV1)

615 test

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 04:38 PM (a3we3)

616 The mayor of Norton Shores, MI -- where Muskegon Co. Airport is located -- cannot hide his disdain for the president. Haha, eat shit, asshole.

https://tinyurl.com/y2xv3a7j

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 04:40 PM (a3we3)

617 The mayor of Norton Shores, MI -- where Muskegon Co. Airport is located -- cannot hide his disdain for the president. Haha, eat shit, asshole.

Bless the mayors heart. He can take the 15-20k extra expense out of their marketing budget. He'll come out ahead from the exposure of the rally.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at October 17, 2020 04:48 PM (iEx0u)

618 616 The mayor of Norton Shores, MI -- where Muskegon Co. Airport is located -- cannot hide his disdain for the president. Haha, eat shit, asshole.

https://tinyurl.com/y2xv3a7j

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 04:40 PM (a3we3)
---

LOL.

It may legitimately be a logistical pain, but Obama never had qualms bout locking down whole LA freeways on his endless shakedowns for Hollywood cash.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Counter-Revolutionary She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 17, 2020 04:52 PM (Dc2NZ)

619 Our next moderator, pictured at Christmas. Super fair.

https://tinyurl.com/y4dp8rvs

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 17, 2020 04:59 PM (fQzH1)

620 Muskegon Co. Airport is where I learned to fly back in the early 80s. It's kind of cool seeing it hosting my president all this many years later.

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 05:01 PM (a3we3)

621 Huck guess we won't won't be fielding questions on Hunter's emails and the Big Guy's payoffs

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 05:02 PM (OjZpE)

622 It's gonna' be Biblical.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at October 17, 2020 05:03 PM (9IdCK)

623 Huck guess we won't won't be fielding questions on Hunter's emails and the Big Guy's payoffs
================
Or the economy, or foreign affairs.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 17, 2020 05:05 PM (fQzH1)

624 Think anybody'd wait outside in that Muskegon cold for hours to listen to Biden speak?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Counter-Revolutionary She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 17, 2020 05:05 PM (Dc2NZ)

625 Wheels down

Posted by: Braenyard at October 17, 2020 05:06 PM (4ue9T)

626 Sundown Joe took the day off today, because yesterday he went to Michigan and that's exhausting

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Tinfoil Hat Wearer at October 17, 2020 05:06 PM (fQzH1)

627 Wolfus- go to samsclub.com
82" Samsung for $1400 and lotsa a 65-75" from $700

Posted by: free tibet at October 17, 2020 05:06 PM (s43+n)

628 It's gonna' be Biblical.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at October 17, 2020 05:03 PM (9IdCK)

Which part of the Bible?

Posted by: db at October 17, 2020 05:07 PM (E0PSG)

629 He's not coming out the rear door, Mr. Cameraman.

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 05:11 PM (a3we3)

630 628 It's gonna' be Biblical.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at October 17, 2020 05:03 PM (9IdCK)

Which part of the Bible?

All if it. 👹

Posted by: Michael the Texan at October 17, 2020 05:14 PM (9IdCK)

631 All of it. 👹

I'm such a dummy.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at October 17, 2020 05:14 PM (9IdCK)

632 Hee goes IN the rear door... See also Melania's three-hole qualified smile...

Posted by: Fuckball Z at October 17, 2020 05:14 PM (CNTlw)

633 He's not coming out the rear door, Mr. Cameraman.
Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 05:11 PM (a3we3)

LOL Must be a rookie.

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 17, 2020 05:16 PM (5FCda)

634 Oh there is another rally

Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2020 05:17 PM (OjZpE)

635 PDT had Covid 2 weeks ago and he's had how many rallies in the last week? And a townhall. I'm 10 years younger and do not have half his energy. Then there's Joe Biden. He's pitiful!

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 17, 2020 05:20 PM (PgmdM)

636 *mentions Whitmer*

LOCK HER UP, LOCK HER UP!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Counter-Revolutionary She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 17, 2020 05:24 PM (Dc2NZ)

637
*mentions Whitmer*

LOCK HER UP, LOCK HER UP!

And PDT responds, "Lock them all up." haha

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 05:25 PM (a3we3)

638 633 He's not coming out the rear door, Mr. Cameraman.
Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 05:11 PM (a3we3)

LOL Must be a rookie.
Posted by: Gaelic Girl at October 17, 2020 05:16 PM (5FCda)

Trump exited the rear door at the Ocala rally yesterday.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at October 17, 2020 05:29 PM (9IdCK)

639 CHESS DRESS NOOD

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at October 17, 2020 05:30 PM (OjZpE)

640 >>Trump exited the rear door at the Ocala rally yesterday.

No he didn't. Watch it starting around 29 minutes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmBBXAr4KY4

Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 05:35 PM (a3we3)

641 640 >>Trump exited the rear door at the Ocala rally yesterday.

No he didn't. Watch it starting around 29 minutes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmBBXAr4KY4
Posted by: fly at October 17, 2020 05:35 PM (a3we3)

You're right. My apologies. Perhaps it was another rally. Commenters were telling RSBN to move to the front door but they stuck on the back door, which Trump exited.

I didn't see the beginning of the rally today and don't know which door he exited from. I'm guessing that the campaign team is notified beforehand.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at October 17, 2020 05:55 PM (9IdCK)

642 Biden thinks the Polish are stupid, as also whites, as also blacks, as also minorities. Democrats have also pointed out police and soldiers and patriots.
Who's voting for these hateful hating haters?
Answer provided; Socialist are firm believers to cultivate, use and abuse useful fools!

Posted by: ron n. at October 18, 2020 03:54 PM (om5HK)

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