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Yes, We Are Better Off In Many Ways Than We Were 50 years Ago, But That Entirely Misses The Point
"Cafe Hayek" is a reliably consistent website that faithfully carries on the legacy of Friedrich Hayek, a vociferous defender of free markets and classical liberalism. He has always impressed me because he moved from socialism to free markets, just as Thomas Sowell did, as he learned more about the world. That says something about the leftists of today, but I digress.
They have a regular feature called Quotation of the Day...and her is the most recent one:The common experience over the past several decades has been that jobs are readily available for those who want them, and for quality of life to improve. The populist argument that typical workers have been at a standstill for decades – victims of an elite that has “rigged the system” against them to help itself, or of immigrants – is incorrect.And from a strict economic interpretation, it is a powerful argument.
Nostalgia for, and misty-eyed myths about, a long-gone past are understandable. We humans are prone to such lazy indulgences. But I guarantee that if any of you ordinary Americans were suddenly projected back to, say, 1975 and found yourself living as ordinary Americans then lived, you’d feel desperately deprived. The reason is that, by the standards of today, you would be desperately deprived.But this is an incomplete analysis of the issues, which are not simply economic. Yes, cell phones and modern cars and great medicine and incredible TVs with 500 channels (of mostly nothing!) and all of the other marvels of 21st century life are axiomatically much better than what we had 50 years ago. But there has been a degradation in our standard of living that is not so easily quantified, compared to the quality of my parents' 13" Sony Trinitron versus my 60" Sony flat screen. This exposes the limitations of economics as a science to describe societies. Where is the measure of the feeling among many Americans that we are no longer judged equally by our justice system? Where is the graph showing the shift from manufacturing to service jobs, and the decrease in stability of the typical American family. And most of all, show me the pie chart that describes the withering away of patriotism and pride in country, replaced by a globalist perspective that we are all just one big (not so) happy world family.
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I'll fetch em
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 12:01 PM (OjZpE)
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Yo
Posted by: Ha at September 27, 2020 12:01 PM (HpBcU)
Posted by: Zombie Nancy Pelosi! at September 27, 2020 12:01 PM (I2/tG)
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Top 10?
Posted by: TwentytwoLR at September 27, 2020 12:02 PM (Qos/a)
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Holy cow
Posted by: Lurking Guy at September 27, 2020 12:03 PM (Rs1MW)
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Not doing a very good job Skip. Where is everyone?
Posted by: Lurking Guy at September 27, 2020 12:04 PM (Rs1MW)
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Hear hear!
Posted by: Hands at September 27, 2020 12:06 PM (786Ro)
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Having trouble with quality medicine and cars having to do with the withering away of our moral fabric.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:06 PM (vW9Vw)
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and the decrease in stability of the typical American family
The smart thing would be for the Democrats to lay off the personal attacks on ACB, but they can't help themselves.
One of the reasons for that is a key part of the Democrats' base is bitter childless women who have lots of cats, and imagine that they are in that situation because they are "feminists".
ACB is a living refutation of their entire lives, and they will not forgive her for it.
The smart thing would be for the Democrats to lay off the personal attacks on ACB, but they can't help themselves.
One of the reasons for that is a key part of the Democrats' base is bitter childless women who have lots of cats, and imagine that they are in that situation because they are "feminists".
ACB is a living refutation of their entire lives, and they will not forgive her for it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:06 PM (I2/tG)
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Prager would point out Leftists are a miserable lot, and maki ng everyone else as miserable makes their life less a bit.
We certainly have it better now than our parents had it and all should be happier for it.
We certainly have it better now than our parents had it and all should be happier for it.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 12:07 PM (OjZpE)
Posted by: George and Ira Gershwin at September 27, 2020 12:07 PM (+y/Ru)
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Have they put a lid on today yet, so I can go back to sleep?
Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at September 27, 2020 12:07 PM (I2/tG)
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You can lead a commentator to the thread but you can't make them comment
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 12:07 PM (OjZpE)
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Compare the poorest 25% now with 50 years ago. Even with the utter destruction of the nuclear family and switching to essentially a service-based workforce and consumer-based economy, it appears better.
Now, imagine if we can restore manufacturing, keep families united, and take patriotic pride in our nation again. Pipe dream? Maybe, but Trump and his Deplorables have a puncher's chance to make it happen.
Now, imagine if we can restore manufacturing, keep families united, and take patriotic pride in our nation again. Pipe dream? Maybe, but Trump and his Deplorables have a puncher's chance to make it happen.
Posted by: Fortcoins at September 27, 2020 12:08 PM (nV60k)
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And where is the graph showing how teachers' unions have degraded our schools so that they're now teaching socialism and racial hatred for the purpose of destroying civilization (and it's been working) while calling it anti-racism?
Posted by: jdgalt at September 27, 2020 12:08 PM (3SFo/)
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Fifty years ago things that were not expressly forbidden, were considered, generally, to be permitted. Now, it seem things that are not expressly permitted, should probably be avoided as being prohibited. Tremendous loss of freedom over the past five decades. Good luck getting your liberties returned.
Posted by: Old Dude at September 27, 2020 12:09 PM (LGXGf)
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>>>9 and the decrease in stability of the typical American family
The smart thing would be for the Democrats to lay off the personal attacks on ACB, but they can't help themselves.
One of the reasons for that is a key part of the Democrats' base is bitter childless women who have lots of cats, and imagine that they are in that situation because they are "feminists".
ACB is a living refutation of their entire lives, and they will not forgive her for it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:06 PM (I2/tG)
I AM TOO HAPPY YOU H8TER!!!1!
The smart thing would be for the Democrats to lay off the personal attacks on ACB, but they can't help themselves.
One of the reasons for that is a key part of the Democrats' base is bitter childless women who have lots of cats, and imagine that they are in that situation because they are "feminists".
ACB is a living refutation of their entire lives, and they will not forgive her for it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:06 PM (I2/tG)
I AM TOO HAPPY YOU H8TER!!!1!
Posted by: Emotionally Stable Green-Haired Grrrl with 37 Cats at September 27, 2020 12:09 PM (/kh7m)
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Compare the poorest 25% now with 50 years ago.
I think that the 1960 census was the last one to ask if you had indoor plumbing or not.
I think that the 1960 census was the last one to ask if you had indoor plumbing or not.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:09 PM (I2/tG)
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Someone said downstairs Sundowner Joe was making a speach on ACB very soon, maybe just before his afternoon nap.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 12:09 PM (OjZpE)
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There is a rear guard. There are teachers who teach that communism is evil and that the metric system is communist.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2020 12:10 PM (q2K0j)
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ACB is a living refutation of their entire lives, and they will not forgive her for it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:06 PM (I2/tG)
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You betcha'. She is walking point.
Pray for her and her family.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:06 PM (I2/tG)
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You betcha'. She is walking point.
Pray for her and her family.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:10 PM (vW9Vw)
Posted by: Gilded at September 27, 2020 12:12 PM (BRkq2)
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Good morning, everyone.
For the first time in possibly a few months, went to bed at a reasonable hour, actually fell asleep, and woke up at what used to be a normal hour.
Even the coffee tastes better!
I'm usually stumbling into a CBD Sunday post long after it is over, so expect some stupid comment from me, after this cup kicks in.
Oh, and ACB is just what us gun-rights folks have been looking for. I've seen a few different backgrounder bits on her. If you judge people, at least partially, by the people they hang out with, and grew up with, ACB is a flat-out winning choice.
But of course, what would you expect from someone who is always "winning! winning! winning!"?
For the first time in possibly a few months, went to bed at a reasonable hour, actually fell asleep, and woke up at what used to be a normal hour.
Even the coffee tastes better!
I'm usually stumbling into a CBD Sunday post long after it is over, so expect some stupid comment from me, after this cup kicks in.
Oh, and ACB is just what us gun-rights folks have been looking for. I've seen a few different backgrounder bits on her. If you judge people, at least partially, by the people they hang out with, and grew up with, ACB is a flat-out winning choice.
But of course, what would you expect from someone who is always "winning! winning! winning!"?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 12:12 PM (sy5kK)
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They will shift another robe wraith to the left to make up for the new cuckservative justice.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 27, 2020 12:13 PM (7CqXe)
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There are teachers who teach that communism is evil and that the metric system is communist.
Therefore, the metric system is evil. I mean, we already knew this, but here it is in irrefutable syllogistic logic!
Therefore, the metric system is evil. I mean, we already knew this, but here it is in irrefutable syllogistic logic!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:13 PM (NWiLs)
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Someone said downstairs Sundowner Joe was making a speech on ACB very soon, maybe just before his afternoon nap.
He allegedly delivered a couple of speeches yesterday, despite the "lid".
No way to tell if the speeches are prerecorded or not, of course.
He allegedly delivered a couple of speeches yesterday, despite the "lid".
No way to tell if the speeches are prerecorded or not, of course.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:13 PM (I2/tG)
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From my POV, I think we had it better 50 years ago. It seemed safer, people were more polite, it you needed a book you went to the library. Kids played outside, drank from the hose, you chopped wood, canned and put in a garden.
Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2020 12:13 PM (4ZQiP)
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If things are so much better materially, why do we hate each other so much? Is worldliness really the pinnacle of human spirituality?
Posted by: Jimbo at September 27, 2020 12:14 PM (g19P3)
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My dad just turned 77, and he's talked about he and his 10 siblings not having indoor plumbing, indoor toilet, a TV, or even a bicycle until well into his teens.
He busted his rump at GE for 38 years and earned all those amenities and a lot more.
He busted his rump at GE for 38 years and earned all those amenities and a lot more.
Posted by: Fortcoins at September 27, 2020 12:14 PM (nV60k)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:14 PM (NWiLs)
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Someone said downstairs Sundowner Joe was making a speach on ACB very soon, maybe just before his afternoon nap.Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 12:09 PM (OjZpE)+++
He seems "with-it" enough here. Dems are nothing if not deceitful.
https://tinyurl.com/y47btrk6
He seems "with-it" enough here. Dems are nothing if not deceitful.
https://tinyurl.com/y47btrk6
Posted by: Old Dude at September 27, 2020 12:14 PM (LGXGf)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 12:14 PM (+y/Ru)
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The smart thing would be for the Democrats to lay off the personal attacks on ACB, but they can't help themselves.
One of the reasons for that is a key part of the Democrats' base is
bitter childless women who have lots of cats, and imagine that they are
in that situation because they are "feminists".
ACB is a living refutation of their entire lives, and they will not forgive her for it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:06 PM (I2/tG)
Pretty spot on.
One of the reasons for that is a key part of the Democrats' base is
bitter childless women who have lots of cats, and imagine that they are
in that situation because they are "feminists".
ACB is a living refutation of their entire lives, and they will not forgive her for it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:06 PM (I2/tG)
Pretty spot on.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:15 PM (9Om/r)
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Only the brilliant graduates of Harvard and Yale law schools are worthy of the Supreme Court, like Hunter Biden! (Yale Law, 1996)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:15 PM (I2/tG)
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I think that the 1960 census was the last one to ask if you had indoor plumbing or not.
Green Nude Eel will bring that question back!
Green Nude Eel will bring that question back!
Posted by: AOC at September 27, 2020 12:16 PM (786Ro)
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But seriously, having technologically advanced stuff and easily-acquired creature comforts, while nice and all, doesn't itself speak to the health of a society, or to individual happiness.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:16 PM (NWiLs)
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replaced by a globalist perspective that we are all just one big (not so) happy world family
hyuk hyuk hyuk
hyuk hyuk hyuk
Posted by: W at September 27, 2020 12:16 PM (3P/5p)
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If you are a baby boomer or older, you are better off. All the younger generations are getting shafted, and it's only getting worse.
Posted by: Ugh at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (jEaVp)
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12 Have they put a lid on today yet, so I can go back to sleep?
Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at September 27, 2020 12:07 PM (I2/tG)
Sloe Joe is blathering about ACB right now. Allegedly live.
Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at September 27, 2020 12:07 PM (I2/tG)
Sloe Joe is blathering about ACB right now. Allegedly live.
Posted by: Fox2! at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (qyH+l)
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I had it WAY better 50 years ago.
Didn't exist then...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:14 PM (NWiLs)
Yeah, but you exist now, so make the best of it. Fuck everybody else and what they think.
I had it WAY better 50 years ago.
Didn't exist then...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:14 PM (NWiLs)
Yeah, but you exist now, so make the best of it. Fuck everybody else and what they think.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (9Om/r)
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Just read this excellent piece by Angelo Codevilla in American Greatness and wanted to pass it on.
Revolution 2020
https://tinyurl.com/y22ayakr
Revolution 2020
https://tinyurl.com/y22ayakr
Posted by: Gaelic Girl at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (5FCda)
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50 years ago we were still fighting wars on behalf of Satans children. That will never fly today.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (7CqXe)
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[...my parents' 13" Sony Trinitron...
Our first TV was a 7" black-and-white Singer. Yes, that's right...the sewing machine company. If more than one person wanted to watch it, they'd better be friends.
Our first TV was a 7" black-and-white Singer. Yes, that's right...the sewing machine company. If more than one person wanted to watch it, they'd better be friends.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (XxJt1)
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Wtfhappenedin1971.com
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (dNzKv)
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18 Compare the poorest 25% now with 50 years ago.
I think that the 1960 census was the last one to ask if you had indoor plumbing or not.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:09 PM (I2/tG)
Old cookbooks, like early versions of The Joy of Cooking!, have instructions how to clean the duck or pheasant properly, including skinning techniques to keep the meat clean of feathers.
Newer versions that I've seen have deleted that information.
Maybe people like feathers in their duck or pheasant these days. Or there are no more bird hunters. I'm not sure which.
I think that the 1960 census was the last one to ask if you had indoor plumbing or not.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 27, 2020 12:09 PM (I2/tG)
Old cookbooks, like early versions of The Joy of Cooking!, have instructions how to clean the duck or pheasant properly, including skinning techniques to keep the meat clean of feathers.
Newer versions that I've seen have deleted that information.
Maybe people like feathers in their duck or pheasant these days. Or there are no more bird hunters. I'm not sure which.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 12:18 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:18 PM (85Gof)
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Winning! /s
https://mobile.twitter.com/MariaBartiromo/ status/1310221953110888449
Breaking news: NO John durham interim report. No indictments before election - Bartiromo sources.
@SundayFutures
@FoxNews
@MorningsMaria
@FoxBusin
https://mobile.twitter.com/MariaBartiromo/ status/1310221953110888449
Breaking news: NO John durham interim report. No indictments before election - Bartiromo sources.
@SundayFutures
@FoxNews
@MorningsMaria
@FoxBusin
Posted by: Ugh at September 27, 2020 12:18 PM (jEaVp)
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Can we all just admit, Trump and many other so called Christians, really don't believe?
Posted by: Jumpit at September 27, 2020 12:15 PM (eCBa2)
Everyone falls short of the glory of God.
Posted by: Jumpit at September 27, 2020 12:15 PM (eCBa2)
Everyone falls short of the glory of God.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 12:18 PM (dNzKv)
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Heya, LCD!
Missed you at the range yesterday. We each shot a box of 9mm and it was great after so many weeks of plinking mostly .22.
Operating on a more normal schedule is lovely. Good for you!
Missed you at the range yesterday. We each shot a box of 9mm and it was great after so many weeks of plinking mostly .22.
Operating on a more normal schedule is lovely. Good for you!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (U2p+3)
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I agree with you, CBD.
If you go back to his "Pairagraph" article that he cites, he is focusing, there, on the "material standard of living." In that article, and using his terms, he's hands-down right:
"Ordinary Americans today have a material standard of living that is vastly higher than was the standard of living of ordinary Americans forty or fifty years ago."
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2fd4atv
If you go back to his "Pairagraph" article that he cites, he is focusing, there, on the "material standard of living." In that article, and using his terms, he's hands-down right:
"Ordinary Americans today have a material standard of living that is vastly higher than was the standard of living of ordinary Americans forty or fifty years ago."
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2fd4atv
Posted by: m at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (qdo54)
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49 What are we fighting this AM?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:18 PM (85Gof)
Whadda ya got?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:18 PM (85Gof)
Whadda ya got?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (NWiLs)
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Sundowner Joe is on CNN trying to stop what has been done by Presidents like 27 times before.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (OjZpE)
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Banner day for the Trump campaign...
--The Rock puts out a video endorsing Biden
--New ABC/Wash Post poll shows Biden up 10
--New NYT/Sienna poll shows Biden up 8
--New NBC/Marist poll of WI shows Biden up 10
--New NBC/Marist pol of MI shows Biden up 8
--New CBS/Yougov poll of NC shows Biden up 2
And the Trump campaign is still broke and getting slaughtered on tv/radio by non-stop Biden ads.
--The Rock puts out a video endorsing Biden
--New ABC/Wash Post poll shows Biden up 10
--New NYT/Sienna poll shows Biden up 8
--New NBC/Marist poll of WI shows Biden up 10
--New NBC/Marist pol of MI shows Biden up 8
--New CBS/Yougov poll of NC shows Biden up 2
And the Trump campaign is still broke and getting slaughtered on tv/radio by non-stop Biden ads.
Posted by: chimpy at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (st1sw)
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This post requires thinking. I resent that !
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (zr5Kq)
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I saw a movie recently, in which a man was tending to a horse. Not sitting in front of a teevee, not sitting in front of a computer. Not on a smartphone, not driving a fancy car with fancy gadgets and a backup camera.
Tending to a horse.
It struck me then, and it strikes me now... how fulfilling is a life that is filled with things that occupy our time and mental capacity?
Is this progress?
If this was 1975, I wouldn't be sitting here, plinking my fingers on this keyboard, sending words to you all. Is THIS progress??
Tending to a horse.
It struck me then, and it strikes me now... how fulfilling is a life that is filled with things that occupy our time and mental capacity?
Is this progress?
If this was 1975, I wouldn't be sitting here, plinking my fingers on this keyboard, sending words to you all. Is THIS progress??
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (hku12)
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Fuck everybody else and what they think.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (9Om/r)
Believe it or not, working on it. Daily fucking struggle that I don't always win.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (9Om/r)
Believe it or not, working on it. Daily fucking struggle that I don't always win.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (NWiLs)
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I threw my TV in the trash more than 20 years ago, and it's one of the best decisions I've ever made.
The only that TV had going for it, was that the picture quality was already more than adequate. The content was the problem.
The only that TV had going for it, was that the picture quality was already more than adequate. The content was the problem.
Posted by: Gilded at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (BRkq2)
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (NgKpN)
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26 There are teachers who teach that communism is evil and that the metric system is communist.
Therefore, the metric system is evil. I mean, we already knew this, but here it is in irrefutable syllogistic logic!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:13 PM (NWiLs)
The metric system started under Revolutionary France.
Therefore, the metric system is evil. I mean, we already knew this, but here it is in irrefutable syllogistic logic!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:13 PM (NWiLs)
The metric system started under Revolutionary France.
Posted by: Fox2! at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (qyH+l)
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President hopeful Harris wins there won't be any indictments after either.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 12:21 PM (OjZpE)
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And the Trump campaign is still broke and getting slaughtered on tv/radio by non-stop Biden ads.
Posted by: chimpy at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (st1sw)
Gonna be an early night. Might as well not even vote. Go back to bed.
And the Trump campaign is still broke and getting slaughtered on tv/radio by non-stop Biden ads.
Posted by: chimpy at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (st1sw)
Gonna be an early night. Might as well not even vote. Go back to bed.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 12:21 PM (dNzKv)
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And the content gets worse by the minute.
Posted by: Gilded at September 27, 2020 12:21 PM (BRkq2)
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Deprived? Hell, no. At worst, I'd be living "cabin life" with a lot more letter-writing and no way to choose my best shots before the film was processed. I sure as hell wouldn't be contacted at home multiple times because my boss got bright ideas on the weekend.
A widow in 1975 had a better standard of living than similar women today, especially more social connections to real people in her reality-based community. And why choose that year, anyway? That was after the Oil Embargo - yay, better gas prices! - and just before the fantastic Bicentennial, which all of America celebrated.
A widow in 1975 had a better standard of living than similar women today, especially more social connections to real people in her reality-based community. And why choose that year, anyway? That was after the Oil Embargo - yay, better gas prices! - and just before the fantastic Bicentennial, which all of America celebrated.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 27, 2020 12:21 PM (/+bwe)
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But seriously, having technologically advanced stuff and easily-acquired creature comforts, while nice and all, doesn't itself speak to the health of a society, or to individual happiness.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
Nihilism, hedonism, atheism, etc. have led to mutilated bodies and mutilated minds. See, e.g., Antifa.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
Nihilism, hedonism, atheism, etc. have led to mutilated bodies and mutilated minds. See, e.g., Antifa.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 12:21 PM (+y/Ru)
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>>> 62 26 There are teachers who teach that communism is evil and that the metric system is communist.
Therefore, the metric system is evil. I mean, we already knew this, but here it is in irrefutable syllogistic logic!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:13 PM (NWiLs)
The metric system started under Revolutionary France.
Posted by: Fox2! at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (qyH+l)
That's not really an improvement...
Therefore, the metric system is evil. I mean, we already knew this, but here it is in irrefutable syllogistic logic!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:13 PM (NWiLs)
The metric system started under Revolutionary France.
Posted by: Fox2! at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (qyH+l)
That's not really an improvement...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 12:21 PM (/kh7m)
Posted by: Jumpit, Nasha Suka! at September 27, 2020 12:21 PM (I2/tG)
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*sniff sniff*
Heavens to Mergetriod, It smells of desperation in here, reeks, even.
Exit, stage left...
Heavens to Mergetriod, It smells of desperation in here, reeks, even.
Exit, stage left...
Posted by: Fortcoins at September 27, 2020 12:22 PM (nV60k)
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Posted by: Jumpit at September 27, 2020 12:18 PM (eCBa2)
After the RBG death march fundraising campaign, the Left has piles of stoopid money to burn.
Even enough to be paying trolls for Sunday morning duty, that's like triple-time.
After the RBG death march fundraising campaign, the Left has piles of stoopid money to burn.
Even enough to be paying trolls for Sunday morning duty, that's like triple-time.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 12:22 PM (sy5kK)
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why, WHY do people INSIST ON COPYING AND PASTING CRAP ???
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:22 PM (zr5Kq)
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Cheap domestic goods are not an acceptable substitute for wage growth.
Posted by: Bumr50 at September 27, 2020 12:22 PM (BpQBP)
71
Living for me was pretty tough for me in '75. I was laid off for 8 months due to the recession...but, it led to me getting the job I kept for the next 40+ years 'til I retired.
Posted by: BignJames at September 27, 2020 12:22 PM (AwYPR)
72
How embarrassing must it be to be a troll and feel compelled to shill for a demented old man who can no longer recite the Pledge of Allegiance, and who believes he's been in Congress for 180 years.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 27, 2020 12:22 PM (TdMsT)
73
50 years might be going back too far to find an effective comparison. I'd say try 30 - 35 years ago. Not saying it the 80s were a golden age, and of course the culture wars were going on, but still. Maybe I'm biased though.
Posted by: Hands at September 27, 2020 12:22 PM (786Ro)
74
Our first TV was a 7" black-and-white Singer. Yes, that's right...the sewing machine company. If more than one person wanted to watch it, they'd better be friends.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (XxJt1)
Bendix, here.
Our first TV was a 7" black-and-white Singer. Yes, that's right...the sewing machine company. If more than one person wanted to watch it, they'd better be friends.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (XxJt1)
Bendix, here.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:23 PM (vW9Vw)
75
Sorry runner, I haven't started drinking yet.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 12:23 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:23 PM (zr5Kq)
77
There are..
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:23 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: chimpy, Tozhe Nasha Suka! at September 27, 2020 12:23 PM (I2/tG)
79
14 Compare the poorest 25% now with 50 years ago. Even with the utter destruction of the nuclear family and switching to essentially a service-based workforce and consumer-based economy, it appears better.
Now, imagine if we can restore manufacturing, keep families united, and take patriotic pride in our nation again. Pipe dream? Maybe, but Trump and his Deplorables have a puncher's chance to make it happen.
Posted by: Fortcoins at September 27, 2020 12:08 PM (nV60k)
We had since the end of January to manufacture PPE during COVID like we were fighting a war. We didn't and haven't almost 9 months later.
Now, imagine if we can restore manufacturing, keep families united, and take patriotic pride in our nation again. Pipe dream? Maybe, but Trump and his Deplorables have a puncher's chance to make it happen.
Posted by: Fortcoins at September 27, 2020 12:08 PM (nV60k)
We had since the end of January to manufacture PPE during COVID like we were fighting a war. We didn't and haven't almost 9 months later.
Posted by: Ugh at September 27, 2020 12:23 PM (jEaVp)
80
Whadda ya got?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (NWiLs)
Another day older and deeper in debt
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (NWiLs)
Another day older and deeper in debt
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:23 PM (85Gof)
81
Anyone who time-jumped from 1975 to the present day would be horrified beyond words. Women destroying their beauty with disgusting tattoos, Ubangi-style piercings on way too many people. Brain-dead sheep walking around with their faces crammed into cell phones, their ears stoppered up with micro head sets, and muzzled up like faceless shuffling zombies. Kids soft, fat and useless. Safety helmets on Big wheels. Television turned into an Orwellian propaganda engine. Tobacco Nazi's. I could go on.
And for what? facebarf? Twitter? I'd say the information highway via internet connection is a plus, but even that has become a hyper sophisticated version Of the 1984 telescreen. The cars make less smog, but are beyond the comprehension of your average joe. All in all this future sucks.
JWM
And for what? facebarf? Twitter? I'd say the information highway via internet connection is a plus, but even that has become a hyper sophisticated version Of the 1984 telescreen. The cars make less smog, but are beyond the comprehension of your average joe. All in all this future sucks.
JWM
Posted by: jwm at September 27, 2020 12:23 PM (HnUoF)
82
I think a quality of life issue that modern tech hurt and is almost always missed is our ability to enjoy our free time. I think tech has isolated people, younger people the most and it's not good for a society.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (4thlk)
83
Federalist Society member. Enemy of the Republic.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (7CqXe)
84
If this was 1975, I wouldn't be sitting here, plinking my fingers on this keyboard, sending words to you all. Is THIS progress??
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (hku12)
Dammit, Burt. I wasn't gonna think today.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (hku12)
Dammit, Burt. I wasn't gonna think today.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (XxJt1)
85
63 President hopeful Harris wins there won't be any indictments after either.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 12:21 PM (OjZpE)
And the DOJ/FBI will be "clean". Sick bastard Durham
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 12:21 PM (OjZpE)
And the DOJ/FBI will be "clean". Sick bastard Durham
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (ONvIw)
86
The 80s were horrid. Shoulder pads on girls and architecturally unsound hairstyles, vapid music, and stupid TV shows.
I feel sorry for people who look back fondly on the 80s.
I feel sorry for people who look back fondly on the 80s.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (q2K0j)
87
Mornin' all.. Looks like the trolls are getting nervous...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (Zmnko)
88
Sorry runner, I haven't started drinking yet.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 12:23 PM (dNzKv)
I forgive you. Mainly because I am still ROTFL over your post from yesterday.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 12:23 PM (dNzKv)
I forgive you. Mainly because I am still ROTFL over your post from yesterday.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (zr5Kq)
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84 Anyone who time-jumped from 1975 to the present day would be horrified beyond words.
A song called "WAP" referred to as "empowering women"
A song called "WAP" referred to as "empowering women"
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (dNzKv)
90
My mom's first TV/Stereo I remember were the big ol' honking console models that weighed a metric shit ton and took up most of the living room.
Posted by: Fortcoins at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (nV60k)
91
Medicine today vs 50 years ago is exponentially better. That is a pretty big deal. We have fewer freedoms and that blows.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (Bl5GC)
92
I've definitely been around more than 50 years.
I'd say, if you removed the present day internal strife, today is better.
But, the color revolution is upon us.
So things suck.
I'd say, if you removed the present day internal strife, today is better.
But, the color revolution is upon us.
So things suck.
Posted by: navybrat waits and watches at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (w7KSn)
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...incredible TVs with 500 channels (of mostly nothing!)
We have the Gorilla channel. That's something.
We have the Gorilla channel. That's something.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (9IdCK)
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"But I guarantee that if any of you ordinary Americans were suddenly projected back to, say, 1975 and found yourself living as ordinary Americans then lived, you'd feel desperately deprived."
His "ordinary Americans" might not include us!
His "ordinary Americans" might not include us!
Posted by: m at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (qdo54)
95
"Ordinary Americans today have a material standard of living that is vastly higher than was the standard of living of ordinary Americans forty or fifty years ago."
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2fd4atv
Posted by: m at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (qdo54)
I'm not going to delve into it. I just fundamentally reject the idea that "standard of living" measures are anything like the same thing as "quality of life."
I probably won't get polio in 2020, but I also can't go to the store without having to cover up, lest I expose myself to the creepin' China crud.
Is this progress?
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2fd4atv
Posted by: m at September 27, 2020 12:19 PM (qdo54)
I'm not going to delve into it. I just fundamentally reject the idea that "standard of living" measures are anything like the same thing as "quality of life."
I probably won't get polio in 2020, but I also can't go to the store without having to cover up, lest I expose myself to the creepin' China crud.
Is this progress?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)
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Is this progress?
If this was 1975, I wouldn't be sitting here, plinking my fingers on
this keyboard, sending words to you all. Is THIS progress??
Posted by: BurtTC
I believe it is. Someone 50 years ago had no way to express their thoughts to a general audience, save writing a letter to the editor, and that was unlikely to be published. In spite of the censorship at the social media outlets, our ideas are much more easily spread now. Also, it's much easier to put the lie to the nonsense coming from the media. Peaceful protests? WTH are you talking about?
If this was 1975, I wouldn't be sitting here, plinking my fingers on
this keyboard, sending words to you all. Is THIS progress??
Posted by: BurtTC
I believe it is. Someone 50 years ago had no way to express their thoughts to a general audience, save writing a letter to the editor, and that was unlikely to be published. In spite of the censorship at the social media outlets, our ideas are much more easily spread now. Also, it's much easier to put the lie to the nonsense coming from the media. Peaceful protests? WTH are you talking about?
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (v16oJ)
97
Fuck everybody else and what they think.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (9Om/r)
Dear sweet Jesus, I may need to make this my new motto.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (9Om/r)
Dear sweet Jesus, I may need to make this my new motto.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (TdMsT)
98
I feel sorry for people who look back fondly on the 80s.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (q2K0j)
70s were worse. No one looked good in the 70s. Maybe except Steve McQueen and Frank Sinatra.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (q2K0j)
70s were worse. No one looked good in the 70s. Maybe except Steve McQueen and Frank Sinatra.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (H8QX8)
99
On this holiest of Jewish religious observances, Melania and I send our warmest greetings to our Jewish brothers and sisters in America and around the world for a blessed Yom Kippur.
Yom Kippur signals the end of the High Holy Days a 10-day period of repentance filled with prayer, fasting, and fellowship, which concludes with the Day of Atonement. As the shofar bellows throughout communities this Yom Kippur, we are reminded of how important our faith has been over these past months as we continue to face the challenges posed by the coronavirus. Through the Almightys love and the power of prayer, we have found renewed strength and understanding to face these unprecedented times with stalwart resolve.
Today, as so many seek Gods forgiveness and mercy, let us all resolve to incorporate these virtues of compassion into our daily lives. We wish all Jewish people an easy fast and a meaningful and memorable Sabbath of Sabbaths.
Yom Kippur signals the end of the High Holy Days a 10-day period of repentance filled with prayer, fasting, and fellowship, which concludes with the Day of Atonement. As the shofar bellows throughout communities this Yom Kippur, we are reminded of how important our faith has been over these past months as we continue to face the challenges posed by the coronavirus. Through the Almightys love and the power of prayer, we have found renewed strength and understanding to face these unprecedented times with stalwart resolve.
Today, as so many seek Gods forgiveness and mercy, let us all resolve to incorporate these virtues of compassion into our daily lives. We wish all Jewish people an easy fast and a meaningful and memorable Sabbath of Sabbaths.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (85Gof)
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It's really an interesting subject, and it shows that humanity cannot be gauged in purely materialistic terms. For example, kids might receive their basic physical needs but their parents entirely neglect those kids' need for love, acceptance, safety, etc. Those kids are at a higher risk of anxiety, depression, relationship difficulties and all kinds of other things as they get older. People can be extremely talented, successful, rich, famous...and then kill themselves, leaving a note that says "je un ame solitaire" - like Brad Delp.
There are basic human needs, that go far deeper than the physical. And if those needs don't get met somehow, it doesn't go very well.
There are basic human needs, that go far deeper than the physical. And if those needs don't get met somehow, it doesn't go very well.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:27 PM (NWiLs)
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Looks like the trolls are getting nervous...
Biden is ONE MILLION points ahead!
All your base belong to us.
Biden is ONE MILLION points ahead!
All your base belong to us.
Posted by: chimpy, Tozhe Nasha Suka! at September 27, 2020 12:27 PM (I2/tG)
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There are basic human needs, that go far deeper than the physical. And if those needs don't get met somehow, it doesn't go very well.
Now you are getting somewhere.
Now you are getting somewhere.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:28 PM (zr5Kq)
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Where's Jackstraw.. I'd like him to give us his opinion on the "No Durham "report" before the election."
Posted by: It's me donna at September 27, 2020 12:28 PM (Zmnko)
104
Dementia Joe FTW.
Posted by: Boss Moss at September 27, 2020 12:28 PM (7CqXe)
105
In spite of the censorship at the social media outlets, our ideas are much more easily spread now.
So are THEIRS. Some college freshman gets a great idea after critical race theory indoctrination class, and can tweet it out to the world.
So are THEIRS. Some college freshman gets a great idea after critical race theory indoctrination class, and can tweet it out to the world.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 12:28 PM (dNzKv)
106
We have more stuff, but society is increasingly mercenary and self-centered. When there is no God, everything is permissible.
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 12:28 PM (ONvIw)
107
Bander,
The 80s for me was high school and undergrad. I loved the 80s. The music, the hairstyles, it was the decade of Reagan. It was the roots of grunge. I grew up in the 80s and emerged fairly competent and adventurous. It was a great decade.
The 80s for me was high school and undergrad. I loved the 80s. The music, the hairstyles, it was the decade of Reagan. It was the roots of grunge. I grew up in the 80s and emerged fairly competent and adventurous. It was a great decade.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at September 27, 2020 12:29 PM (U2p+3)
108
1975 for me was good. I graduated from university with no debt, was commissioned into the Army and had a job for at least the next 4 years. A heck of a lot of my friends then had student loans, no job, and few prospects. So for them, grad school.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 27, 2020 12:29 PM (axyOa)
109
Pride in our country ???? 50 years ago that would be 1970
Our country was torn apart by a war that should never have been fought that was pushed on to the USA by right wing conservatives of both parties
Not much has changed in that regard.
Our country was torn apart by a war that should never have been fought that was pushed on to the USA by right wing conservatives of both parties
Not much has changed in that regard.
Posted by: Kurt at September 27, 2020 12:29 PM (nvLJg)
110
We had since the end of January to manufacture PPE
during COVID like we were fighting a war. We didn't and haven't almost 9
months later.
Posted by: Ugh
You know who's worried about losing manufacturing now? China. They are no longer the low cost producer because their labor has gotten much more expensive (except for Uighurs, but there aren't enough of them). They're following Japan's road.
during COVID like we were fighting a war. We didn't and haven't almost 9
months later.
Posted by: Ugh
You know who's worried about losing manufacturing now? China. They are no longer the low cost producer because their labor has gotten much more expensive (except for Uighurs, but there aren't enough of them). They're following Japan's road.
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2020 12:29 PM (v16oJ)
111
4 Dementia Joe FTW
He's a million points ahead!
He's a million points ahead!
Posted by: Poll troll extraordinaire at September 27, 2020 12:29 PM (Zmnko)
112
Yeah, but you exist now, so make the best of it. Fuck everybody else and what they think.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (9Om/r)
You sound like my late Dad.
That's a supreme compliment, by the way.
He would probably add, "so quit whining, and DO something!"
Yeah, but you exist now, so make the best of it. Fuck everybody else and what they think.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (9Om/r)
You sound like my late Dad.
That's a supreme compliment, by the way.
He would probably add, "so quit whining, and DO something!"
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 12:29 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: chimpy, Tozhe Nasha Suka! at September 27, 2020 12:29 PM (I2/tG)
114
That's not really an improvement...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 12:21 PM (/kh7m
Sometime ago, before the Anglosphere became heretics and still used the traditional British measure, I read that the dividing line between freedom and dictatorship was the break between Metric and Imperial(ish)* measure.
* Recognizing that US customary measure differed in several ways from true Imperial measure.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 12:21 PM (/kh7m
Sometime ago, before the Anglosphere became heretics and still used the traditional British measure, I read that the dividing line between freedom and dictatorship was the break between Metric and Imperial(ish)* measure.
* Recognizing that US customary measure differed in several ways from true Imperial measure.
Posted by: Fox2! at September 27, 2020 12:29 PM (qyH+l)
Posted by: Ha at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (HpBcU)
116
Judged on Rosh Hashanah, fate is sealed on Yom Kippur.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (zr5Kq)
117
The Rock has come out supporting Biden
Posted by: Kurt at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (nvLJg)
118
There's no correlation between superior technology and a corrupting society.
We allowed the communists to take over.
We didn't pay attention.
We allowed our teacher to be schooled by hippy/commune professors.
It wasn't better medicine or better cars that corrupted us it was a lack of attention/responsibility to the importance of of citizenship and husbandry.
we let the commies turn our minds
We allowed the communists to take over.
We didn't pay attention.
We allowed our teacher to be schooled by hippy/commune professors.
It wasn't better medicine or better cars that corrupted us it was a lack of attention/responsibility to the importance of of citizenship and husbandry.
we let the commies turn our minds
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (vW9Vw)
119
That Hayek chick is one hot economist!
Posted by: andycanuck at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (an7Mv)
120
Surprised? Maria Bartiromo is now reporting there will be no additional Durham news "before the election." And, as Barr says in this very video, "What happens after the election may depend on who wins the election."
There it is.
"Two weeks" now is become "vote as if the Republic is at stake". Or, maybe it always was that and our hopes and dreams were badly mistaken. Buy ammo.
https://tinyurl.com/yxp835p6
There it is.
"Two weeks" now is become "vote as if the Republic is at stake". Or, maybe it always was that and our hopes and dreams were badly mistaken. Buy ammo.
https://tinyurl.com/yxp835p6
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (gtNWf)
121
We are living in the best times for mankind.
Going back 50 years, people tended to behave better because it was expected of them. There were still a lot of shitheads, reprobates and sodomites running around, but they tended to keep it on the down low.
Now the shitheads, reprobates and sodomites are leading the parade, holding public orifices and generally hollering about how they know what's best for us all.
Which is why you never vote democrat.
Going back 50 years, people tended to behave better because it was expected of them. There were still a lot of shitheads, reprobates and sodomites running around, but they tended to keep it on the down low.
Now the shitheads, reprobates and sodomites are leading the parade, holding public orifices and generally hollering about how they know what's best for us all.
Which is why you never vote democrat.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (Z+IKu)
122
All the flurry of disclosures in last few weeks re: coup investigations were just breadcrumbs for the peons, and to set the argument for failure in the final analysis, i.e., "we tried, we gave it our best, but nothing will stick." The deep state is not going to prosecute the deep state. How many times do we need the lesson beaten into us?
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 27, 2020 12:31 PM (H8QX8)
123
How many old movies would be pointless if the personcould take out cell phone and solve their situation immediately.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 12:31 PM (OjZpE)
124
I would go back to 1975 in a heartbeat. That's the year I met mr. creeper and the beginning of the best twenty years of my life.
No, we didn't have the technology we do now. But somehow things got done. And done well, evidently, because here we are.
No, we didn't have the technology we do now. But somehow things got done. And done well, evidently, because here we are.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:31 PM (XxJt1)
125
The Rock has come out supporting Biden
Posted by: Kurt at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (nvLJg)
-------------------
haha- I was wondering who was holding Biden up. He's a bag of bones at this stage.
The Rock has come out supporting Biden
Posted by: Kurt at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (nvLJg)
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haha- I was wondering who was holding Biden up. He's a bag of bones at this stage.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:31 PM (gtNWf)
126
"Two weeks" now is become "vote as if the Republic is at stake". Or, maybe it always was that and our hopes and dreams were badly mistaken. Buy ammo.
https://tinyurl.com/yxp835p6
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (gtNWf)
I fucked you over
"Two weeks" now is become "vote as if the Republic is at stake". Or, maybe it always was that and our hopes and dreams were badly mistaken. Buy ammo.
https://tinyurl.com/yxp835p6
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (gtNWf)
I fucked you over
Posted by: Billy plays Bagpipes,, now with vermicelli spine at September 27, 2020 12:31 PM (ONvIw)
127
Well they've pulled the Bartiromo page.
That was quick.
That was quick.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:32 PM (vW9Vw)
128
nurse, was that Featured ONT pic from last night local? just curious.
'cuz it is certainly true.
but so far, only black coffee, and no Bailey's added.
nurse, was that Featured ONT pic from last night local? just curious.
'cuz it is certainly true.
but so far, only black coffee, and no Bailey's added.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 12:32 PM (sy5kK)
129
91
Medicine today vs 50 years ago is exponentially better. That is a pretty big deal. We have fewer freedoms and that blows.
Posted by: Asshoes
People dont' understand this. We are on the cusp of fixing the genetic causes of many diseases. I've known lots of folks with what would have been immediately fatal cancer diagnoses 50 years ago, who are still alive and kicking.
So are THEIRS. Some college freshman gets a great idea after
critical race theory indoctrination class, and can tweet it out to the
world.
Sure, but would you prefer they have a monopoly and we have nothing, or that we both can compete in the marketplace of ideas?
Medicine today vs 50 years ago is exponentially better. That is a pretty big deal. We have fewer freedoms and that blows.
Posted by: Asshoes
People dont' understand this. We are on the cusp of fixing the genetic causes of many diseases. I've known lots of folks with what would have been immediately fatal cancer diagnoses 50 years ago, who are still alive and kicking.
So are THEIRS. Some college freshman gets a great idea after
critical race theory indoctrination class, and can tweet it out to the
world.
Sure, but would you prefer they have a monopoly and we have nothing, or that we both can compete in the marketplace of ideas?
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2020 12:32 PM (v16oJ)
130
98 I feel sorry for people who look back fondly on the 80s.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (q2K0j)
70s were worse. No one looked good in the 70s. Maybe except Steve McQueen and Frank Sinatra.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (H8QX
Was a Teenager in the 70's, young adult in the 80's.
Both had some very good things about them.
Music is ALWAYS hit and miss. There are always good songs and bad songs.
Fashion is ALWAYS ugly, if you look at fashion magazines, but I remember lots of slender girls in short skirts during both decades.
LOL, if I could go back then, with what I know NOW?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (q2K0j)
70s were worse. No one looked good in the 70s. Maybe except Steve McQueen and Frank Sinatra.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (H8QX
Was a Teenager in the 70's, young adult in the 80's.
Both had some very good things about them.
Music is ALWAYS hit and miss. There are always good songs and bad songs.
Fashion is ALWAYS ugly, if you look at fashion magazines, but I remember lots of slender girls in short skirts during both decades.
LOL, if I could go back then, with what I know NOW?
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 27, 2020 12:32 PM (NgKpN)
131
The Rock is allegedly supporting Biden? Oh no. It's all over. Throw in the towel. The wheels have come off. The walls have closed in.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:32 PM (NWiLs)
132
They finally came up with a winning line of attack on ACB - "She will reverse Obamacare".
They finally came up with a winning line of attack on ACB - "She will reverse Obamacare".
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:32 PM (zr5Kq)
133
A Fly's Brain > The Rock's Brain and Joe Biden's Brain Combined
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 27, 2020 12:33 PM (Z+IKu)
134
If this was 1975, I wouldn't be sitting here, plinking my fingers on this keyboard, sending words to you all. Is THIS progress??
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (hku12)
Dammit, Burt. I wasn't gonna think today.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (XxJt1)
Heh, sorry.
This is hard stuff to face, because I know I am just as caught up in all this so-called progress as everyone else.
Sometimes when I stop to think about it, and take a look at my own life, it's much more comforting to look away.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (hku12)
Dammit, Burt. I wasn't gonna think today.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (XxJt1)
Heh, sorry.
This is hard stuff to face, because I know I am just as caught up in all this so-called progress as everyone else.
Sometimes when I stop to think about it, and take a look at my own life, it's much more comforting to look away.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:33 PM (hku12)
135
Fuck everybody else and what they think.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (9Om/r)
Believe it or not, working on it. Daily fucking struggle that I don't always win.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (NWiLs)
Yeah, I can't say that I know what its like to be there, because I was always a rebel and never gave a shit, well to a point anyway. I sacrificed a lot and gave up a lot. I never had kids, so forget that entire episode of American life for me. I'll never experience that. I made some stupid choices too. I left a band I should have never left and spent years trying to get back to that level. Why did I do that? Because like you I succumbed to the pressure of doing what was expected of me. Only once in my life did I make that mistake...once, and it costed me big. I don't let it bother me, because I found that the voyage back up was equally rewarding, but I will never make that mistake again, and haven't since. So yeah, even me, I walked the path you did, but not for long. Thats the only thing that separates me and you, I saw the bullshit quick, but then I also did something about it. I said ok fuck you, and fuck you, and fuck you, and went back on my path..MY path. You just need to do it my man, fuck everybody, its your life. Man, wait til you meet my brother in texas, are you in for ride. I can just hear him talking to you. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:17 PM (9Om/r)
Believe it or not, working on it. Daily fucking struggle that I don't always win.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:20 PM (NWiLs)
Yeah, I can't say that I know what its like to be there, because I was always a rebel and never gave a shit, well to a point anyway. I sacrificed a lot and gave up a lot. I never had kids, so forget that entire episode of American life for me. I'll never experience that. I made some stupid choices too. I left a band I should have never left and spent years trying to get back to that level. Why did I do that? Because like you I succumbed to the pressure of doing what was expected of me. Only once in my life did I make that mistake...once, and it costed me big. I don't let it bother me, because I found that the voyage back up was equally rewarding, but I will never make that mistake again, and haven't since. So yeah, even me, I walked the path you did, but not for long. Thats the only thing that separates me and you, I saw the bullshit quick, but then I also did something about it. I said ok fuck you, and fuck you, and fuck you, and went back on my path..MY path. You just need to do it my man, fuck everybody, its your life. Man, wait til you meet my brother in texas, are you in for ride. I can just hear him talking to you. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:33 PM (9Om/r)
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I graduated high school in 1984. I liked it then. Pop music was what it was, but there was a metal underground that was growing like crazy. And the kids in my town didn't dress like what you saw in the movies. Mostly jeans and t-shirts. Levi's 501 buttonfly were very popular with the girls, and I wholeheartedly approved of that. Not much big hair, and only a few of the guys had mullets.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Big Dumb Weirdo at September 27, 2020 12:33 PM (x8Wzq)
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probably won't get polio in 2020, but I also can't
go to the store without having to cover up, lest I expose myself to the
creepin' China crud.
Is this progress?Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)+++
For me the possibility of being exposed to the Wuhan hasn't ever been a concern (I'm allegedly a member of two at risk cohorts). No, what has really been vexing for me is the amount of fear that has been generated by the scamdemic and how easily freedoms were surrendered by folks who pride themselves on living in "the land of the free and home of the brave".
go to the store without having to cover up, lest I expose myself to the
creepin' China crud.
Is this progress?Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)+++
For me the possibility of being exposed to the Wuhan hasn't ever been a concern (I'm allegedly a member of two at risk cohorts). No, what has really been vexing for me is the amount of fear that has been generated by the scamdemic and how easily freedoms were surrendered by folks who pride themselves on living in "the land of the free and home of the brave".
Posted by: Old Dude at September 27, 2020 12:33 PM (LGXGf)
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There are basic human needs, that go far deeper than the physical. And
if those needs don't get met somehow, it doesn't go very well.
So......all of human history.
if those needs don't get met somehow, it doesn't go very well.
So......all of human history.
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2020 12:34 PM (v16oJ)
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Interesting post, CBD.
Life is complex, that is not new. The means of navigating life (notably instant access to news and information, without a corresponding capability to critically analyze information) has created a situation where people look to either superstition or authority to do the analysis and make sense of the overwhelming flood of info.
Data ≠ information ≠ knowledge ≠ understanding ≠ wisdom
Life is complex, that is not new. The means of navigating life (notably instant access to news and information, without a corresponding capability to critically analyze information) has created a situation where people look to either superstition or authority to do the analysis and make sense of the overwhelming flood of info.
Data ≠ information ≠ knowledge ≠ understanding ≠ wisdom
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 12:34 PM (Fc5rx)
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93 - My mom's first TV/Stereo I remember were the big ol' honking console
models that weighed a metric shit ton and took up most of the living
room.
Posted by: Fortcoins
Those monstrosities brought so much pleasure to a household. Just think, being able to enjoy listening to the music of your choice or entertaining small children with recordings.
BUT, back then though new and appreciated, it wasn't meant as an 18 hour reprieve from life. Most conveniences weren't. Unlike the internet is today for many.
models that weighed a metric shit ton and took up most of the living
room.
Posted by: Fortcoins
Those monstrosities brought so much pleasure to a household. Just think, being able to enjoy listening to the music of your choice or entertaining small children with recordings.
BUT, back then though new and appreciated, it wasn't meant as an 18 hour reprieve from life. Most conveniences weren't. Unlike the internet is today for many.
Posted by: old chick at September 27, 2020 12:35 PM (sOete)
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I hate wearing a mask, HOWEVER, when I walk around in my mask and sunglasses nobody can really see me staring at titties and hinnies with my tongue hanging out...so there is that
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:35 PM (85Gof)
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The fact that so many people are on head meds belies the believe we're living in a healthy society. I'd trade all the new gadgets developed in my life to make the corrosive marxist and feminist stuff fringe again. Particularly the feminists - women my age (50s) are generally a miserable lot.
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 27, 2020 12:35 PM (wGeit)
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"Two weeks" now is become "vote as if the Republic is at stake". Or, maybe it always was that and our hopes and dreams were badly mistaken. Buy ammo.
https://tinyurl.com/yxp835p6
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (gtNWf)
Vital information necessary to an informed Republic in order to make a well considered election decision is being restrained. Good fucking show, Durham
"Two weeks" now is become "vote as if the Republic is at stake". Or, maybe it always was that and our hopes and dreams were badly mistaken. Buy ammo.
https://tinyurl.com/yxp835p6
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (gtNWf)
Vital information necessary to an informed Republic in order to make a well considered election decision is being restrained. Good fucking show, Durham
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:35 PM (vW9Vw)
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Florida is not the battleground it was last time around, at least anecdotally. Dade County, where I just was, is more pro-Trump than you can believe, and central Florida is it's usual "very energized". Even the Tampa area seemed to me to have lots more Trump signs than I recall in the last election.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (gtNWf)
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Like a Rock!
Posted by: Boob Cigar at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (63Dwl)
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Why the fuck are they waiting till 12 OCT to start the committee hearings on Amy?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (85Gof)
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My grandfather had one of those big horkin' TVs in his living room. Must've weighed 500 pounds.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:37 PM (NWiLs)
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I think a quality of life issue that modern tech hurt and is almost always missed is our ability to enjoy our free time. I think tech has isolated people, younger people the most and it's not good for a society.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (4thlk)
Good points.
I look at my grandkids and while they seem happy in their world, I am convinced I had it better. My free time was like gold.
Today they disappear into their rooms and their devices. Meaningful dialog is reduced to short texts.
Sigh.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 27, 2020 12:24 PM (4thlk)
Good points.
I look at my grandkids and while they seem happy in their world, I am convinced I had it better. My free time was like gold.
Today they disappear into their rooms and their devices. Meaningful dialog is reduced to short texts.
Sigh.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 27, 2020 12:37 PM (axyOa)
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As for Margot Asquith (mentioned by MP4), I agree, as a woman, with her assessment of most women, 'women have no reason, very little humor, hardly any sense of honor...and no sense of proportion.'
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 12:37 PM (ONvIw)
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Under Ford and Carter, America looked spent, at a dead end. Reagan was an epochal president -- he totally revived the country.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 27, 2020 12:38 PM (H8QX8)
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You just need to do it my man, fuck everybody, its your life. Man, wait til you meet my brother in texas, are you in for ride. I can just hear him talking to you. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:33 PM (9Om/r)
Something tells me I'll never be the same after...and that it will be a beneficial thing.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:33 PM (9Om/r)
Something tells me I'll never be the same after...and that it will be a beneficial thing.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:38 PM (NWiLs)
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If this was 1975, I wouldn't be sitting here, plinking my fingers on
this keyboard, sending words to you all. Is THIS progress??
Posted by: BurtTC
I believe it is. Someone 50 years ago had no way to express their thoughts to a general audience, save writing a letter to the editor, and that was unlikely to be published. In spite of the censorship at the social media outlets, our ideas are much more easily spread now. Also, it's much easier to put the lie to the nonsense coming from the media. Peaceful protests? WTH are you talking about?
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (v16oJ)
Or, you know, people would go places and TALK to each other.
And while you and I are exchanging ideas on this newfangled thing, those "peaceful protesters" are coordinating where to go, and who to shoot on the street, using this very same progress the rest of us enjoy.
this keyboard, sending words to you all. Is THIS progress??
Posted by: BurtTC
I believe it is. Someone 50 years ago had no way to express their thoughts to a general audience, save writing a letter to the editor, and that was unlikely to be published. In spite of the censorship at the social media outlets, our ideas are much more easily spread now. Also, it's much easier to put the lie to the nonsense coming from the media. Peaceful protests? WTH are you talking about?
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (v16oJ)
Or, you know, people would go places and TALK to each other.
And while you and I are exchanging ideas on this newfangled thing, those "peaceful protesters" are coordinating where to go, and who to shoot on the street, using this very same progress the rest of us enjoy.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:38 PM (hku12)
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/rant off:In 1975 I had a job as a night custodian for the local Jr. High. On that modest wage I was renting a small, two-bedroom house in a very nice neighborhood, and making payments, insurance, etc. on a new VW. I could drive from my house 50 miles to San Onofre to surf in the morning, and make it home to north Orange County in time to get to work at 1:30 in the afternoon. I could afford weed, booze, and restaurant meals, and I even trickled money into a savings account.Now that same job would not make rent, (much less luxuries like food) on a dogshit one bedroom apartment in a crappy part of town.
JWM
JWM
Posted by: jwm at September 27, 2020 12:38 PM (HnUoF)
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imo, the biggest change for better and/or worse has been the globalism of markets. This has indeed enabled a lot of lower middle class savers to become incredibly wealthy, with little effort except to "trust the system".
That has the potential for good, the concept of investing in new ideas, funding research and development, then profiting ... it is the dreamy side of "capitalism".
The darker side is the government involved in currency manipulation to protect globalists,
the movement of production to Red China Slaves (where they can freely pollute the world),
average Americans throwing most of their savings and retirement funds into the hands of Wall Street skimmers and leveraged gamblers (that get bailed out, 2Big2Fail Elitists)
massive funding of momentum stocks that use stock money to sustain losses for a decade, as they drive competitors that must make a profit, out of business. (Amazon, most notably)
the growth of government/corporate bonded entities, that became spies and propaganda machines for the left (Google chiefly, but the others as well)
and so on. "Passive Investing" is the thing ... just give all your future to the fund runners, demand government keep markets soaring ... and call it capitalism. We made the oligarchs and their foundations so incredibly wealthy, they bought all media, and all lobbyists, and most of the boardrooms. But the middle class masses sit comfortably numb, gazing at the paper riches in 401Ks.
The lower half that are not riding that (government backed) magic carpet, are indeed left out, but can buy nice tech toys on credit ... some have jobs to keep up with payments, some depend on government. Globalism is for the elite, who have actively funded degradation of society, open borders.
That has the potential for good, the concept of investing in new ideas, funding research and development, then profiting ... it is the dreamy side of "capitalism".
The darker side is the government involved in currency manipulation to protect globalists,
the movement of production to Red China Slaves (where they can freely pollute the world),
average Americans throwing most of their savings and retirement funds into the hands of Wall Street skimmers and leveraged gamblers (that get bailed out, 2Big2Fail Elitists)
massive funding of momentum stocks that use stock money to sustain losses for a decade, as they drive competitors that must make a profit, out of business. (Amazon, most notably)
the growth of government/corporate bonded entities, that became spies and propaganda machines for the left (Google chiefly, but the others as well)
and so on. "Passive Investing" is the thing ... just give all your future to the fund runners, demand government keep markets soaring ... and call it capitalism. We made the oligarchs and their foundations so incredibly wealthy, they bought all media, and all lobbyists, and most of the boardrooms. But the middle class masses sit comfortably numb, gazing at the paper riches in 401Ks.
The lower half that are not riding that (government backed) magic carpet, are indeed left out, but can buy nice tech toys on credit ... some have jobs to keep up with payments, some depend on government. Globalism is for the elite, who have actively funded degradation of society, open borders.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2020 12:38 PM (Cus5s)
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146 Why the fuck are they waiting till 12 OCT to start the committee hearings on Amy?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (85Gof)
Because they want Biden to win so they can continue to pretend to fight abortion and corruption.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (85Gof)
Because they want Biden to win so they can continue to pretend to fight abortion and corruption.
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 12:39 PM (ONvIw)
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149 As for Margot Asquith (mentioned by MP4), I agree, as a woman, with her assessment of most women, 'women have no reason, very little humor, hardly any sense of honor...and no sense of proportion.'
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 12:37 PM (ONvIw)
Hope you're firmly ensconced in a fireproof bunker...
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 12:37 PM (ONvIw)
Hope you're firmly ensconced in a fireproof bunker...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:39 PM (NWiLs)
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Well they've pulled the Bartiromo page.
That was quick.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:32 PM (vW9Vw)
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wow- I wonder if her reporting is going to change.
That was quick.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:32 PM (vW9Vw)
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wow- I wonder if her reporting is going to change.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:39 PM (gtNWf)
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It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times
Posted by: Josephistan at September 27, 2020 12:40 PM (3vUqT)
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Boudreaux takes a reliably libertarian line, which means the correct line on minimum wage legislation (opposed), unilateral free trade (favorable), and deregulation (favorable). The libertarian "no interference" reflex leads to a serious error on immigration. Boudreaux supports unlimited immigration. The common property of the US belongs to US citizens, not to the world. Libertarians will not be happy until Des Moines looks like Dhaka, Bangladesh.
Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at September 27, 2020 12:40 PM (kD3S+)
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The Gov. Of California ended the First Amendment with the permission of the Chief Justice. This isn't even the United States of America anymore.
Posted by: Burkeanmama at September 27, 2020 12:40 PM (CYk5a)
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. Or there are no more bird hunters. I'm not sure which.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 12:18 PM (sy5kK)
Check tonight's gun thread for your answer.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 12:18 PM (sy5kK)
Check tonight's gun thread for your answer.
Posted by: clutch at September 27, 2020 12:40 PM (9UmRs)
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146 Why the fuck are they waiting till 12 OCT to start the committee hearings on Amy?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (85Gof)
Either because they figure they have it in the bag and everything will go exactly to plan and the confirmation will happen 5 days before the election, or because they LOVE failure theater.
I don't know. I mean, Cocaine Mitch, he can confirm some judges, and a Lindsey Graham in electoral peril for the first time in his entire political life is a good thing, I think.
But it seems like this is run way to close. Like the Dems can't sludge things up a few days.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (85Gof)
Either because they figure they have it in the bag and everything will go exactly to plan and the confirmation will happen 5 days before the election, or because they LOVE failure theater.
I don't know. I mean, Cocaine Mitch, he can confirm some judges, and a Lindsey Graham in electoral peril for the first time in his entire political life is a good thing, I think.
But it seems like this is run way to close. Like the Dems can't sludge things up a few days.
Posted by: blaster at September 27, 2020 12:40 PM (ZfRYq)
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I often think back to the days of no cell phones
I can't say that it is an improvement in the quality of life, merely an improvement in the convenience
I can't say that it is an improvement in the quality of life, merely an improvement in the convenience
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 27, 2020 12:40 PM (aO8Gd)
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91 Medicine today vs 50 years ago is exponentially better.......
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (Bl5GC)
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Exponentially? Not really.
The 50 years between 1925 and 1975, yes. Antibiotics, advances in surgery and anesthesia, new vaccines. Yuuuge progress.
I'm not saying there haven't been advances in the last 50 years, but nothing like before. And medicine has become far more bureaucratized, expensive, impersonal.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (Bl5GC)
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Exponentially? Not really.
The 50 years between 1925 and 1975, yes. Antibiotics, advances in surgery and anesthesia, new vaccines. Yuuuge progress.
I'm not saying there haven't been advances in the last 50 years, but nothing like before. And medicine has become far more bureaucratized, expensive, impersonal.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 12:41 PM (M/9m0)
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Life is complex, that is not new. The means of navigating life (notably instant access to news and information, without a corresponding capability to critically analyze information) has created a situation where people look to either superstition or authority to do the analysis and make sense of the overwhelming flood of info.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 12:34 PM (Fc5rx)
There is a problem with the assumption that even need such "instant access," or that our lives are less if we don't have it.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 12:34 PM (Fc5rx)
There is a problem with the assumption that even need such "instant access," or that our lives are less if we don't have it.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 27, 2020 12:41 PM (H8QX8)
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Technology by itself is neither good nor bad. What's good or bad is the use to which it's put.
See: Media, Social
See: Media, Social
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:41 PM (XxJt1)
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128 tried to copy that and send it to my sister but forgot never to do that on a ONT, at least that one wasn't bad.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 12:41 PM (OjZpE)
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Why the fuck are they waiting till 12 OCT to start the committee hearings on Amy?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (85Gof)
Because they want Biden to win so they can continue to pretend to fight abortion and corruption.
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 12:39 PM (ONvIw)
Jewish holidays. You two....
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (85Gof)
Because they want Biden to win so they can continue to pretend to fight abortion and corruption.
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 12:39 PM (ONvIw)
Jewish holidays. You two....
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:42 PM (zr5Kq)
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Or, you know, people would go places and TALK to each other.
And while you and I are exchanging ideas on this newfangled thing,
those "peaceful protesters" are coordinating where to go, and who to
shoot on the street, using this very same progress the rest of us enjoy.
I'm glad you weren't around when Gutenberg was alive (I keed, I keed). Any technology has the potential for misuse. That doesn't mean it can't be used for good.
And while you and I are exchanging ideas on this newfangled thing,
those "peaceful protesters" are coordinating where to go, and who to
shoot on the street, using this very same progress the rest of us enjoy.
I'm glad you weren't around when Gutenberg was alive (I keed, I keed). Any technology has the potential for misuse. That doesn't mean it can't be used for good.
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2020 12:42 PM (v16oJ)
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50 years ago, we expected at least one of the 100 best albums ever recorded to be released each month. Now there hasn't been a single one in 25 years at least.
new Art - insofar as it is available to the general public - is dead. And in that, it is a fair representation of society itself.
new Art - insofar as it is available to the general public - is dead. And in that, it is a fair representation of society itself.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 12:43 PM (q3gwH)
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Per Obamacare, please be sure that anytime anyone who has even slightest possibility of listening to Dem propaganda says anything negative about doctor, hospital, pharmacy, prescription, the medical "system," etc., correct them: "This is all Obamacare. You hate Obamacare. The Dems had the Presidency and both Chambers and 100% carte blanche to do anything they wanted, and what you have now is what the Democrats chose."
Stuns the idjits.
Stuns the idjits.
Posted by: Gilded at September 27, 2020 12:43 PM (BRkq2)
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Like a Rock!
Posted by: Boob Cigar at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (63Dwl)
Boob cigars? Why didn't I think of that?
Posted by: Boob Cigar at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (63Dwl)
Boob cigars? Why didn't I think of that?
Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 27, 2020 12:43 PM (3vUqT)
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I try not to look back at mistakes. because you can "should" all over yourself. And "if only". And "if my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle". So theres that.
And boy did I fuck up royally at times.Now I save the past for laughs and fond memories. Even at my age of 29 theres so much I want to learn and do. So onward.
Quote I'll now hang on to. "Life is not for you to determine. Its for you to discover.'
And one word. Bell bottoms. Later.
And boy did I fuck up royally at times.Now I save the past for laughs and fond memories. Even at my age of 29 theres so much I want to learn and do. So onward.
Quote I'll now hang on to. "Life is not for you to determine. Its for you to discover.'
And one word. Bell bottoms. Later.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 27, 2020 12:43 PM (pmcmT)
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164 91 Medicine today vs 50 years ago is exponentially better.......
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (Bl5GC)
---------------------------
Exponentially? Not really.
The 50 years between 1925 and 1975, yes. Antibiotics, advances in surgery and anesthesia, new vaccines. Yuuuge progress.
I'm not saying there haven't been advances in the last 50 years, but nothing like before. And medicine has become far more bureaucratized, expensive, impersonal.
It all comes at a cost, too. Health care is, by far, my single biggest expense. It's not even close.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (Bl5GC)
---------------------------
Exponentially? Not really.
The 50 years between 1925 and 1975, yes. Antibiotics, advances in surgery and anesthesia, new vaccines. Yuuuge progress.
I'm not saying there haven't been advances in the last 50 years, but nothing like before. And medicine has become far more bureaucratized, expensive, impersonal.
It all comes at a cost, too. Health care is, by far, my single biggest expense. It's not even close.
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 27, 2020 12:43 PM (wGeit)
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I graduated high school in 1984. I liked it then.
Pop music was what it was, but there was a metal underground that was
growing like crazy. And the kids in my town didn't dress like what you
saw in the movies. Mostly jeans and t-shirts. Levi's 501 buttonfly were
very popular with the girls, and I wholeheartedly approved of that. Not
much big hair, and only a few of the guys had mullets.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Big Dumb Weirdo at September 27, 2020 12:33 PM (x8Wzq)
Damn, where the hell were you? The lid blew off the underground in 1980 around here. Holy shit, the metal clubs were packed to the roof 7 nights a week. We did however have the jersey bighair, they were legion, and what lovely creatures they were. lol Well to be fair, a lot of them came from staten island too. They were the cousin vinny Marisa Tomei types. What a special time.
Pop music was what it was, but there was a metal underground that was
growing like crazy. And the kids in my town didn't dress like what you
saw in the movies. Mostly jeans and t-shirts. Levi's 501 buttonfly were
very popular with the girls, and I wholeheartedly approved of that. Not
much big hair, and only a few of the guys had mullets.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Big Dumb Weirdo at September 27, 2020 12:33 PM (x8Wzq)
Damn, where the hell were you? The lid blew off the underground in 1980 around here. Holy shit, the metal clubs were packed to the roof 7 nights a week. We did however have the jersey bighair, they were legion, and what lovely creatures they were. lol Well to be fair, a lot of them came from staten island too. They were the cousin vinny Marisa Tomei types. What a special time.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:44 PM (9Om/r)
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Sarah Palin's greatest sin, which the lefty libs could not accept, was bringing a Downs Syndrome baby to term rather than aborting after she was told the infant had Downs Syndrome. ACB's greatest sin, which, again, the lefty libs cannot accept, is having both a successful career and a fulfilling family home life.
Years ago, the feminists preached that women could have it all -- successful careers and happy home lifes. Then they discovered that was impossible for many women for one reason or another. They decreed that career was more important than family. ACB has proven them wrong. The cognitive dissonance will be a thing of beauty to watch unfold.
Years ago, the feminists preached that women could have it all -- successful careers and happy home lifes. Then they discovered that was impossible for many women for one reason or another. They decreed that career was more important than family. ACB has proven them wrong. The cognitive dissonance will be a thing of beauty to watch unfold.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at September 27, 2020 12:44 PM (yHHWj)
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The reason, and the only reason, there is not a crappy replacement for Fredocare is that jerk off cock sucking traitor mccain, may he rest in putrid shit the rest of eternity
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:44 PM (85Gof)
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So, has Biden soiled himself on live TV yet?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 27, 2020 12:45 PM (sd8p8)
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October 12 is Columbus Day, FWIW.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:45 PM (XxJt1)
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10/12 is Indigenous People's Day.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:46 PM (zr5Kq)
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178 So, has Biden soiled himself on live TV yet?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 27, 2020 12:45 PM (sd8p8
You' haven't heard the new excuse for Biden's "gaffes"? He has a lisp...
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 27, 2020 12:45 PM (sd8p8
You' haven't heard the new excuse for Biden's "gaffes"? He has a lisp...
Posted by: Poll troll extraordinaire at September 27, 2020 12:46 PM (Zmnko)
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Care for the seriously mentally ill was better 50 years ago than it is today. Doctors today, everything is only fixed by surgery or drugs. If someone has a problem that isn't suitable for chopping or drugging, they don't want to deal with it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 12:46 PM (q3gwH)
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ell they've pulled the Bartiromo page.
That was quick.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:32 PM (vW9Vw)
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wow- I wonder if her reporting is going to change.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:39 PM (gtNWf)
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I just checked. Her report (and the video) is still there.
That was quick.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:32 PM (vW9Vw)
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wow- I wonder if her reporting is going to change.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:39 PM (gtNWf)
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I just checked. Her report (and the video) is still there.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:47 PM (gtNWf)
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Something tells me I'll never be the same after...and that it will be a beneficial thing.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:38 PM (NWiLs)
Oh you have no idea. lol
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:38 PM (NWiLs)
Oh you have no idea. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:47 PM (9Om/r)
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Posted by: Ace's liver at September 27, 2020 12:43 PM (wGeit)
Yeah well. Two new knees and a hip. Cataract surgery on both eyes. Changed my life for the better in so many ways. So theres that.
Yeah well. Two new knees and a hip. Cataract surgery on both eyes. Changed my life for the better in so many ways. So theres that.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 27, 2020 12:47 PM (pmcmT)
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Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:44 PM (9Om/r)
Wyoming. So, yeah. metal arrived a little later, but it was me and my buddies that introduced it to our little town.
But hey, we had dial phones and indoor terlits.
Wyoming. So, yeah. metal arrived a little later, but it was me and my buddies that introduced it to our little town.
But hey, we had dial phones and indoor terlits.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Big Dumb Weirdo at September 27, 2020 12:47 PM (x8Wzq)
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I plan on celebrating by eating Indigenous foods and participating in Indigenous activities.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:47 PM (zr5Kq)
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One of the biggest differences between the mid-70's and today is, of course, the ubiquitous cell phone, and instant communication. Back then, a few lucky people had answering machines, the grandfather of voicemail. But mostly, calls were hit and miss.
I remember a couple of years living in a fraternity at the UW. A call from home would get written down on the chalk board, usually, but after the board was filled, it got erased from the top, so if you didn't walk by and read your message, it was erased.
They lasted usually at least a day, so if it was really important, they would call back and it would get written down again.
I remember telling this to mom and dad in person, they just nodded, like an "oh, of course, we should have figured that out" kind of nods.
One of the biggest differences between the mid-70's and today is, of course, the ubiquitous cell phone, and instant communication. Back then, a few lucky people had answering machines, the grandfather of voicemail. But mostly, calls were hit and miss.
I remember a couple of years living in a fraternity at the UW. A call from home would get written down on the chalk board, usually, but after the board was filled, it got erased from the top, so if you didn't walk by and read your message, it was erased.
They lasted usually at least a day, so if it was really important, they would call back and it would get written down again.
I remember telling this to mom and dad in person, they just nodded, like an "oh, of course, we should have figured that out" kind of nods.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 12:47 PM (sy5kK)
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probably won't get polio in 2020, but I also can't
go to the store without having to cover up, lest I expose myself to the
creepin' China crud.
Is this progress?Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)
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For me the possibility of being exposed to the Wuhan hasn't ever been a concern (I'm allegedly a member of two at risk cohorts). No, what has really been vexing for me is the amount of fear that has been generated by the scamdemic and how easily freedoms were surrendered by folks who pride themselves on living in "the land of the free and home of the brave".
Posted by: Old Dude at September 27, 2020 12:33 PM (LGXGf)
I think there's something to be said for living a life of risk, even if that risk meant you might get polio, or be eaten by a saber tooth tiger... or starving because the crop failed.
People in "simpler" times had a much healthier response to hardship. Sure, it's possible you'll die before you reach puberty, and if you make it to adulthood, you may very well have 3-4 or more siblings who didn't make it.
But then today, there are lots of yoots growing up, who had 3-4 or more siblings who never made it out of the womb.
go to the store without having to cover up, lest I expose myself to the
creepin' China crud.
Is this progress?Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)
+++
For me the possibility of being exposed to the Wuhan hasn't ever been a concern (I'm allegedly a member of two at risk cohorts). No, what has really been vexing for me is the amount of fear that has been generated by the scamdemic and how easily freedoms were surrendered by folks who pride themselves on living in "the land of the free and home of the brave".
Posted by: Old Dude at September 27, 2020 12:33 PM (LGXGf)
I think there's something to be said for living a life of risk, even if that risk meant you might get polio, or be eaten by a saber tooth tiger... or starving because the crop failed.
People in "simpler" times had a much healthier response to hardship. Sure, it's possible you'll die before you reach puberty, and if you make it to adulthood, you may very well have 3-4 or more siblings who didn't make it.
But then today, there are lots of yoots growing up, who had 3-4 or more siblings who never made it out of the womb.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:48 PM (hku12)
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Kids that are constantly texting or whatever that is now ... for one thing, are subject to constant BigBrother surveillance. But they moslty love BigBrother, and can be counted on to march against the MAGA "white supremacists".
Maybe good parenting overcomes that for some, but parenting is hard ... system is set up to require a two income family, if there is even a father around.
Maybe good parenting overcomes that for some, but parenting is hard ... system is set up to require a two income family, if there is even a father around.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2020 12:48 PM (Cus5s)
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180 10/12 is Indigenous People's Day.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:46 PM (zr5Kq)
No kidding? I'll trade you.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:46 PM (zr5Kq)
No kidding? I'll trade you.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:48 PM (XxJt1)
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I remember a couple of years living in a fraternity at the UW. A call
from home would get written down on the chalk board, usually, but after
the board was filled, it got erased from the top, so if you didn't walk
by and read your message, it was erased.
They lasted usually at least a day, so if it was really important, they would call back and it would get written down again.
Buy a bigger chalkboard.
from home would get written down on the chalk board, usually, but after
the board was filled, it got erased from the top, so if you didn't walk
by and read your message, it was erased.
They lasted usually at least a day, so if it was really important, they would call back and it would get written down again.
Buy a bigger chalkboard.
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2020 12:48 PM (v16oJ)
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174---It all comes at a cost, too. Health care is, by far, my single biggest expense. It's not even close.
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 27, 2020 12:43 PM (wGeit)
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Well, you ARE Ace's liver! What do you expect?!?
But yeah, medical care, like college, has exploded in cost, faaaar beyond the rate of inflation. And this despite --- (or perhaps in large part BECAUSE OF) ---massive government "help."
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 27, 2020 12:43 PM (wGeit)
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Well, you ARE Ace's liver! What do you expect?!?
But yeah, medical care, like college, has exploded in cost, faaaar beyond the rate of inflation. And this despite --- (or perhaps in large part BECAUSE OF) ---massive government "help."
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 12:49 PM (M/9m0)
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I think our dear Insomniac will return from the long awaited and much talked about TxMoMe with a "Carpe Diem !" tattooed on his ass. Just have that feeling....
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM (zr5Kq)
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Perhaps the democrats will come up with a winning flu strategy. Mandate that women wear the mask, and have a special police group enforce it.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM (0Os+c)
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Ah. The 50's. My mom was knocking down Manhattans and smoking Pall Mall's, and she pushed out four of us kids. Solid family life she and dad gave us. When you think of it we were wealthy.
Posted by: Redenzo at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM (E7vND)
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NC Wuhan Flu News: Yesterday's WF positive test rate for all tests was 5.1%. This makes 17 straight days that NC positive test rates (for all tests) have been below 6%. FREE THE PEOPLE, KING ROY COOPER!
Posted by: mrp at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM (Pqytn)
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If there is one thing you can count on it's that the Republicans will f' it up.
Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2020 12:51 PM (RV5lj)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2020 12:51 PM (u82oZ)
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92 I've definitely been around more than 50 years.
I'd say, if you removed the present day internal strife, today is better.
But, the color revolution is upon us.
So things suck.
Posted by: navybrat waits and watches at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (w7KSn)
Today, I feel empowered by it, recognizing that we are in a great battle between good and evil and knowing of the thousands here and throughout that are prepared and willing. The greatness of it all.
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=390523#c33579919
I'd say, if you removed the present day internal strife, today is better.
But, the color revolution is upon us.
So things suck.
Posted by: navybrat waits and watches at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (w7KSn)
Today, I feel empowered by it, recognizing that we are in a great battle between good and evil and knowing of the thousands here and throughout that are prepared and willing. The greatness of it all.
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?blog=86&post=390523#c33579919
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:51 PM (vW9Vw)
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The thing that makes this site the best is the content. It doesn't need flashy lights, bells, and whistles.
Posted by: Gilded at September 27, 2020 12:51 PM (BRkq2)
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In whose handwriting?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2020 12:51 PM (u82oZ)
Salty ! I am glad you asked. It will be in Gothic.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2020 12:51 PM (u82oZ)
Salty ! I am glad you asked. It will be in Gothic.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:52 PM (zr5Kq)
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I grew up in the town I now live in.
Back in 1970? Bedroom community for an Air Force Base. 12,500 People. Lots of small businesses including a bowling alley, roller rink, Theatre. Local Hardware stores, local everything. 7 GOOD Bars within 10 miles.
Now? 25,000, largest local employer is the PRISON SYSTEM (not a joke). Bowling Alley only thing left, and kids don't go there. Walmart instead of local stores. Some of highest unemployment in the State.
And in 1970? needless to say no Anti War protests.
But we did just have our first BLM protest yesterday. 200 Back the Police folks showed up, and were counter protested by 50 BLMers.
Back in 1970? Bedroom community for an Air Force Base. 12,500 People. Lots of small businesses including a bowling alley, roller rink, Theatre. Local Hardware stores, local everything. 7 GOOD Bars within 10 miles.
Now? 25,000, largest local employer is the PRISON SYSTEM (not a joke). Bowling Alley only thing left, and kids don't go there. Walmart instead of local stores. Some of highest unemployment in the State.
And in 1970? needless to say no Anti War protests.
But we did just have our first BLM protest yesterday. 200 Back the Police folks showed up, and were counter protested by 50 BLMers.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 27, 2020 12:52 PM (NgKpN)
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FREE THE PEOPLE, KING ROY COOPER!
Posted by: mrp at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM (Pqytn)
Relinquish that power? Why on earth would he do that?
Posted by: mrp at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM (Pqytn)
Relinquish that power? Why on earth would he do that?
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 27, 2020 12:52 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2020 12:52 PM (u82oZ)
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Wyoming. So, yeah. metal arrived a little later, but it was me and my buddies that introduced it to our little town.
But hey, we had dial phones and indoor terlits.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Big Dumb Weirdo at September 27, 2020 12:47 PM (x8Wzq)
Ok, yeah, it would have taken a little longer out there. I grew up around the highway 9 that bruce springsteen ( douche leafspring) sung about in born to run, and that area had clubs like New Orleans has bars.
But hey, we had dial phones and indoor terlits.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Big Dumb Weirdo at September 27, 2020 12:47 PM (x8Wzq)
Ok, yeah, it would have taken a little longer out there. I grew up around the highway 9 that bruce springsteen ( douche leafspring) sung about in born to run, and that area had clubs like New Orleans has bars.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (9Om/r)
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I think a big change is the general technical illiteracy that comfort- technologies have created.
Not only does nobody know how to do basic things like car and appliance maintenance, home repair, cooking, clothes mending, etc.... They're actual terrified at the prospect of having to learn how.
Get off my freshly mown lawn.
Not only does nobody know how to do basic things like car and appliance maintenance, home repair, cooking, clothes mending, etc.... They're actual terrified at the prospect of having to learn how.
Get off my freshly mown lawn.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (6FeV1)
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The rapist claims to have gone to a HBCU- Delaware State. He never did.
"I got started out of an HBCU, Delaware State - now, I don't want to hear anything negative about Delaware State," Biden told the crowd, as shown on video. "They're my folks."
I took 3 classes at Delaware State. I have more HBCU cred than be does.
"I got started out of an HBCU, Delaware State - now, I don't want to hear anything negative about Delaware State," Biden told the crowd, as shown on video. "They're my folks."
I took 3 classes at Delaware State. I have more HBCU cred than be does.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (dNzKv)
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From Forbes, 2011, re Hayek's Road To Serfdom --
John Maynard Keynes, thought to be the absolute opposite to Hayek in political and economic outlook, really rather liked the book:
In my opinion it is a grand book ... Morally and philosophically I find myself in agreement with virtually the whole of it: and not only in agreement with it, but in deeply moved agreement.
Which ups my opinion of Keynes just a bit.
John Maynard Keynes, thought to be the absolute opposite to Hayek in political and economic outlook, really rather liked the book:
In my opinion it is a grand book ... Morally and philosophically I find myself in agreement with virtually the whole of it: and not only in agreement with it, but in deeply moved agreement.
Which ups my opinion of Keynes just a bit.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (Z4rgH)
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The one really big area that a purely economic view missed - Education. That is an area where quality at all levels has totally collapsed. I think it's safe to say that the average high school graduate of 1970 had far more knowledge in all areas than anyone receiving a B.A. Degree from a liberal arts college today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (q3gwH)
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146 - "Why the fuck are they waiting till 12 OCT to start the committee hearings on Amy?"
I think they probably talked with Barrett and agreed on the time. You got to give her enough time to get her shit together also. They got the votes so her life is completely different from here on out. Where to prepare, staff, kids, lodging, etc., etc. Then she has to move into her next job and start new in a different city, all before the end of next month. Busy month for her to say the least.
I think they probably talked with Barrett and agreed on the time. You got to give her enough time to get her shit together also. They got the votes so her life is completely different from here on out. Where to prepare, staff, kids, lodging, etc., etc. Then she has to move into her next job and start new in a different city, all before the end of next month. Busy month for her to say the least.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (4thlk)
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I'm glad you weren't around when Gutenberg was alive (I keed, I keed). Any technology has the potential for misuse. That doesn't mean it can't be used for good.
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2020 12:42 PM (v16oJ)
Sure. Technology is neither good nor bad. It's a tool.
And like any tool, such as for example, a hammer, you can use your hammer to build walls, or you can use it to bash in your neighbor's skull.
Posted by: pep at September 27, 2020 12:42 PM (v16oJ)
Sure. Technology is neither good nor bad. It's a tool.
And like any tool, such as for example, a hammer, you can use your hammer to build walls, or you can use it to bash in your neighbor's skull.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (hku12)
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Today, I feel empowered by it, recognizing that we are in a great battle between good and evil and knowing of the thousands here and throughout that are prepared and willing. The greatness of it all.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:51 PM (vW9Vw)
I like that.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 12:51 PM (vW9Vw)
I like that.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 27, 2020 12:54 PM (H8QX8)
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195 Perhaps the democrats will come up with a winning flu strategy. Mandate that women wear the mask, and have a special police group enforce it.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM
With tasers.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM
With tasers.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:54 PM (XxJt1)
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What this site needs is flashing colored text.
Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2020 12:54 PM (RV5lj)
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When I was a sophomore in High School, required reading list included "1984", "Animal Farm", "Brave New World", and even "The Road to Serfdom".
Posted by: navybrat waits and watches at September 27, 2020 12:55 PM (w7KSn)
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Labor saving devices of all sorts has been a dramatic source of improvement over the decades CBD mentions, but at a cost of greater social isolation. We don't go to libraries to research something in the Brittanica, we whip out our phones or tablets. If we need fresh meals because our beloved parent is in the hospital and we don't have time to cook, we do not turn to our neighbors, we order out for delivery.
People are lazy and if they aren't required by daily life to help their neighbors (knowing they themselves will someday need help in their own turn), they won't.
Here is a question I do not know the answer to but I often wonder about. Who has a more social existence: hard-working Amish kids or suburban Holden Caulfields?
People are lazy and if they aren't required by daily life to help their neighbors (knowing they themselves will someday need help in their own turn), they won't.
Here is a question I do not know the answer to but I often wonder about. Who has a more social existence: hard-working Amish kids or suburban Holden Caulfields?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:56 PM (gtNWf)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2020 12:56 PM (u82oZ)
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Shut up, f'd. We have enough trouble with the damned emojis.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:56 PM (XxJt1)
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Per Obamacare, please be sure that anytime anyone who has even slightest possibility of listening to Dem propaganda says anything negative about doctor, hospital, pharmacy, prescription, the medical "system," etc., correct them: "This is all Obamacare. You hate Obamacare. The Dems had the Presidency and both Chambers and 100% carte blanche to do anything they wanted, and what you have now is what the Democrats chose."
Stuns the idjits.
Posted by: Gilded at September 27, 2020 12:43 PM
I wrote two checks this week, the smaller one $39 for an eye test. I am looking at another $500 in the coming weeks for tests my doctor ordered. Pre-Obamacare, I paid for nothing but the office visit and any optional tests. I can't afford my old plan; hence the high-deductibles.
The new screech-harpy slogan is that Trump will get rid of Obamacare, which strikes me as "You will no longer get the chicken feet and gruel that replaced the meat-and-potatoes meals!" (The other screech is "You're gonna die in chains while giving birth to unwanted triplets!")
Stuns the idjits.
Posted by: Gilded at September 27, 2020 12:43 PM
I wrote two checks this week, the smaller one $39 for an eye test. I am looking at another $500 in the coming weeks for tests my doctor ordered. Pre-Obamacare, I paid for nothing but the office visit and any optional tests. I can't afford my old plan; hence the high-deductibles.
The new screech-harpy slogan is that Trump will get rid of Obamacare, which strikes me as "You will no longer get the chicken feet and gruel that replaced the meat-and-potatoes meals!" (The other screech is "You're gonna die in chains while giving birth to unwanted triplets!")
Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 27, 2020 12:57 PM (/+bwe)
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I think a big change is the general technical illiteracy that comfort- technologies have created.
Not only does nobody know how to do basic things like car and appliance maintenance, home repair, cooking, clothes mending, etc.... They're actual terrified at the prospect of having to learn how.
Get off my freshly mown lawn.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (6FeV1)
For years I've been one of those guys who said if the toaster or the vcr or the car stop working, throw it out and get a new one.
It was relatively easy to do.
I find myself more inclined these days to want to go to a second hand store and find replacements. And to figure out how to, instead of trashing my old stuff, donate pretty much everything to these same second hand shops.
Somebody may get joy from fixing these things, even if it is something I'll never do myself.
Not only does nobody know how to do basic things like car and appliance maintenance, home repair, cooking, clothes mending, etc.... They're actual terrified at the prospect of having to learn how.
Get off my freshly mown lawn.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (6FeV1)
For years I've been one of those guys who said if the toaster or the vcr or the car stop working, throw it out and get a new one.
It was relatively easy to do.
I find myself more inclined these days to want to go to a second hand store and find replacements. And to figure out how to, instead of trashing my old stuff, donate pretty much everything to these same second hand shops.
Somebody may get joy from fixing these things, even if it is something I'll never do myself.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 12:57 PM (hku12)
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I for one would gladly go back to 1975 even knowing what I know now. The caveat is I need to be a little younger than I am now. Driving muscle cars, dating instead of hook ups, tennis at its pinnacle in the USA, no social media, Bell Burgers. Admittedly I would miss having Lasik eye surgery.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 12:58 PM (2DOZq)
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I pay Verizon over $7500/year for cell phone, tv and internet access (me, my wife and 3 kids).
I'm looking forward to the day it all goes away and I can use that money towards something more practical, like hookers and cocaine.
I'm looking forward to the day it all goes away and I can use that money towards something more practical, like hookers and cocaine.
Posted by: Open Channel D at September 27, 2020 12:58 PM (gcQt5)
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194 I think our dear Insomniac will return from the long awaited and much talked about TxMoMe with a "Carpe Diem !" tattooed on his ass. Just have that feeling....
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM (zr5Kq)
YEAH! Wait...whut?
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM (zr5Kq)
YEAH! Wait...whut?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 12:58 PM (NWiLs)
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Oh I remember Salty. One of my computers even has the formatting bar, but it don't no more.
Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2020 12:58 PM (RV5lj)
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{{{Salty}}}
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 12:58 PM (XxJt1)
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91 Medicine today vs 50 years ago is exponentially better. That is a pretty big deal. We have fewer freedoms and that blows.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (Bl5GC)
Putting a damper on the positive aspects of those medical advances over the past five decades is the explosion of heart disease and type-2 diabetes incidence--no doubt a result of 40+ years of the fake-science-based jihad against dietary cholesterol and fats (saturated in particular).
There may be stats which bear out the conclusion we're living longer overall, but we sure as hell seem to be more sickly.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 12:25 PM (Bl5GC)
Putting a damper on the positive aspects of those medical advances over the past five decades is the explosion of heart disease and type-2 diabetes incidence--no doubt a result of 40+ years of the fake-science-based jihad against dietary cholesterol and fats (saturated in particular).
There may be stats which bear out the conclusion we're living longer overall, but we sure as hell seem to be more sickly.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 27, 2020 12:59 PM (DTX3h)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 12:59 PM (q3gwH)
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I pay Verizon over $7500/year for cell phone, tv and internet access (me, my wife and 3 kids).+++
HOLY GUACAMOLE!!!!
HOLY GUACAMOLE!!!!
Posted by: Old Dude at September 27, 2020 12:59 PM (LGXGf)
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146 Why the fuck are they waiting till 12 OCT to start the committee hearings on Amy?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (85Gof)
So Republicans can raise money and secure votes for the Senate in both early and day of elections in the Senate.
People have a short memory.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (85Gof)
So Republicans can raise money and secure votes for the Senate in both early and day of elections in the Senate.
People have a short memory.
Posted by: Ugh at September 27, 2020 12:59 PM (jEaVp)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (DLzZd)
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amount of fear that has been generated by the scamdemic
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A couple of weeks ago I pointed out that Colorado had shown two nearly equal peaks of COVID "cases" (i.e. positive tests).
The first, in April, spanned about 5-6 weeks and peaked at 624 new daily cases (7-day avg) while running ~3,000 tests per day.
The second, in July spanned about 5-6 weeks and peaked at 622 new daily cases (7 day avg) while running ~9,000 to 10,000 tests per day.
Now we are in our third "wave". It began about two weeks ago, so far has peaked at 581 new daily cases (7-day avg) with a jump from 9,000 quickly up to 13,000 and as of the last reported day (9/25) over 18,000 tests per day.
The second and third 'waves' had no corresponding increase in hospitalizations or deaths. CO has had single digit daily reported deaths since way back on June 12.
The ramped-up number of tests in largely asymptomatic individuals (return to school/work, contact tracing, etc) is driving a peak in raw case numbers with no significant change in test positivity rate or morbidity/mortality.
This is blatantly false representation of data to promote ongoing fear and solidify the governor's rationale for chiding the public to "do better" and extending the mask mandate. He specifically mentioned a "third wave" when he extended the mask order (at which time the uptick on the graph was just barely noticeable).
Why the abrupt change in testing numbers?
Why are we testing asymptomatic individuals?
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A couple of weeks ago I pointed out that Colorado had shown two nearly equal peaks of COVID "cases" (i.e. positive tests).
The first, in April, spanned about 5-6 weeks and peaked at 624 new daily cases (7-day avg) while running ~3,000 tests per day.
The second, in July spanned about 5-6 weeks and peaked at 622 new daily cases (7 day avg) while running ~9,000 to 10,000 tests per day.
Now we are in our third "wave". It began about two weeks ago, so far has peaked at 581 new daily cases (7-day avg) with a jump from 9,000 quickly up to 13,000 and as of the last reported day (9/25) over 18,000 tests per day.
The second and third 'waves' had no corresponding increase in hospitalizations or deaths. CO has had single digit daily reported deaths since way back on June 12.
The ramped-up number of tests in largely asymptomatic individuals (return to school/work, contact tracing, etc) is driving a peak in raw case numbers with no significant change in test positivity rate or morbidity/mortality.
This is blatantly false representation of data to promote ongoing fear and solidify the governor's rationale for chiding the public to "do better" and extending the mask mandate. He specifically mentioned a "third wave" when he extended the mask order (at which time the uptick on the graph was just barely noticeable).
Why the abrupt change in testing numbers?
Why are we testing asymptomatic individuals?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (Fc5rx)
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I went to the Bartiromo twitter page, her warning was not there.
Posted by: navybrat waits and watches at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (w7KSn)
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I pay Verizon over $7500/year for cell phone, tv and internet access (me, my wife and 3 kids).
I'm looking forward to the day it all goes away and I can use that money towards something more practical, like hookers and cocaine.
Posted by: Open Channel D at September 27, 2020 12:58 PM (gcQt5)
A gentleman and a scholar.
I'm looking forward to the day it all goes away and I can use that money towards something more practical, like hookers and cocaine.
Posted by: Open Channel D at September 27, 2020 12:58 PM (gcQt5)
A gentleman and a scholar.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (p6QYE)
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The Rock didn't have to say anything. Why open your mouth and piss off half of your fans?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (dNzKv)
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Yeah, Id trade the internet and 4k graphics and computers for life as it was when I was a kid. There were real problems back then too but culturally the nation was still held together by a greater love of liberty, nation, and God than today.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (KZzsI)
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210 The one really big area that a purely economic view missed - Education. That is an area where quality at all levels has totally collapsed. I think it's safe to say that the average high school graduate of 1970 had far more knowledge in all areas than anyone receiving a B.A. Degree from a liberal arts college today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (q3gwH)
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You are understating the case!
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (q3gwH)
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You are understating the case!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 01:01 PM (M/9m0)
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I think our dear Insomniac will return from the long
awaited and much talked about TxMoMe with a "Carpe Diem !" tattooed on
his ass. Just have that feeling....
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM (zr5Kq)
Hell, I'm shooting for veni vidi vici. lol
awaited and much talked about TxMoMe with a "Carpe Diem !" tattooed on
his ass. Just have that feeling....
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:50 PM (zr5Kq)
Hell, I'm shooting for veni vidi vici. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 01:01 PM (9Om/r)
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I pay Verizon over $7500/year for cell phone, tv and internet access (me, my wife and 3 kids).
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$7500 a year? Dude!! You are getting ripped off bigly.
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$7500 a year? Dude!! You are getting ripped off bigly.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:01 PM (Bl5GC)
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What was the bartiromo page that got pulled?
Who pulled it?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 12:59 PM (q3gwH)
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see @120
What was the bartiromo page that got pulled?
Who pulled it?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 12:59 PM (q3gwH)
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see @120
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:01 PM (gtNWf)
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I know some people want me to support twitter, but it is a leftist propaganda outlet. I expect anything honest to be deleted quickly.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 01:02 PM (q3gwH)
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Did anyone find out why our ibguy (may he rest in peace) pass away ?
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:02 PM (zr5Kq)
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If there is one thing you can count on it's that the Republicans will f' it up.
Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2020 12:51 PM (RV5lj)
Tucker said it recently, and I agree with him. I don't really need the Republicans right now to fix anything. I just need them to defeat the Democrats.
If they can do that, then we can have that conversation about how they can stop stepping on their own wangs and so some of the things they claim to be for doing when it's campaign season.
Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2020 12:51 PM (RV5lj)
Tucker said it recently, and I agree with him. I don't really need the Republicans right now to fix anything. I just need them to defeat the Democrats.
If they can do that, then we can have that conversation about how they can stop stepping on their own wangs and so some of the things they claim to be for doing when it's campaign season.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:02 PM (hku12)
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I'm sitting out in the middle of nowhere at an off road park but they have free wifi. Ain't America great?
Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2020 01:02 PM (RV5lj)
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I went to Costco for the first time in over 2 months yesterday. Their mask Nazis pissed me off last time, and so I gave the last 2 months of my money to other stores that were also bowing to Emperor Jay's corrupt edicts, but weren't a**holes about it.
Anyway, got some new brand of thick cut bacon there, and going to try it out this morning. It looks dang good.
I went to Costco for the first time in over 2 months yesterday. Their mask Nazis pissed me off last time, and so I gave the last 2 months of my money to other stores that were also bowing to Emperor Jay's corrupt edicts, but weren't a**holes about it.
Anyway, got some new brand of thick cut bacon there, and going to try it out this morning. It looks dang good.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 01:02 PM (sy5kK)
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{{{creeper}}}!
Dragging a bit. Went out to dinner with my wife Friday night to celebrate my Production shed start. Came back with a very sore throat and sniffles. And very tired. But no fever.
I'm going back to lay down. Have a special day.
Dragging a bit. Went out to dinner with my wife Friday night to celebrate my Production shed start. Came back with a very sore throat and sniffles. And very tired. But no fever.
I'm going back to lay down. Have a special day.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 27, 2020 01:02 PM (u82oZ)
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and I haven't named the antifa financiers either, rubes.
Trust the plan...
Trust the plan...
Posted by: billy plays bagpipes at September 27, 2020 01:03 PM (ONvIw)
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1975. Terrycloth short-shorts and tube tops abound.
Summer of Jaws.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (DLzZd)
Oh boy.... mother of god.... holy shit. There will never be an equal. lol
Summer of Jaws.
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (DLzZd)
Oh boy.... mother of god.... holy shit. There will never be an equal. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 01:03 PM (9Om/r)
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Hell, I'm shooting for veni vidi vici. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 01:01 PM (9Om/r)
We drank, we fought, he made his ancestors proud!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 01:01 PM (9Om/r)
We drank, we fought, he made his ancestors proud!
Posted by: Thor at September 27, 2020 01:03 PM (NgKpN)
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Another quote from same blog!
Truth is only one of many things demanders of ideas want from ideas. And sometimes truth has nothing to do with it. Often, demanders in the market for ideas want magical thinking. By magical thinking I mean an argument with one or more steps that require something impossible. Unfortunately, experts often have an incentive to engage in magical thinking.
Excerpt from
Roger Koppls important and today especially relevant 2018 book, Expert Failure
Truth is only one of many things demanders of ideas want from ideas. And sometimes truth has nothing to do with it. Often, demanders in the market for ideas want magical thinking. By magical thinking I mean an argument with one or more steps that require something impossible. Unfortunately, experts often have an incentive to engage in magical thinking.
Excerpt from
Roger Koppls important and today especially relevant 2018 book, Expert Failure
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 27, 2020 01:03 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:03 PM (zr5Kq)
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Hopefully if they start Oct 12 have a two week hearing then have a vote. There is no reason it should be longer.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 01:04 PM (OjZpE)
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I'm going to brunch at the Mueller house today.
Posted by: billy plays bagpipes at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (ONvIw)
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Education in the 70s was on the way downhill rapidly, though. My oldest brother graduated in 1976 and the stories he would tell about his high school were depressing even then. They were already starting to experiment with idiotic crap like the "mod system" and "new math" which were utter stupidity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (KZzsI)
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Up to about a month ago, everywhere I went almost everyone was wearing masks. Now it's down to somewhere around 1/3 of people wearing masks. People are burned out on the 'Rona. And given that in my county there have been fewer than 50 deaths, people are just not buying the scaremongering anymore.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (Bl5GC)
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Why are we testing asymptomatic individuals?
To keep the fear going. They come in because a friend had contact with someone who tested positive and now need a test "just to be sure".
To keep the fear going. They come in because a friend had contact with someone who tested positive and now need a test "just to be sure".
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (dNzKv)
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The Rock didn't have to say anything. Why open your mouth and piss off half of your fans?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
I agree. That was a mistake.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
I agree. That was a mistake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (+y/Ru)
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252 Hopefully if they start Oct 12 have a two week hearing then have a vote. There is no reason it should be longer.
Ms. Lindsey said 4 days of hearings.. Then nine days before vote on Oct. 26th
Ms. Lindsey said 4 days of hearings.. Then nine days before vote on Oct. 26th
Posted by: Poll troll extraordinaire at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (Zmnko)
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Durham? And that's a surprise? Even shipwreckedcrew was saying days ago that the reports that came out this last week were all we're gonna get before the election.
I gave up any emotional attachment to that stuff months ago. If trump wins, something might come out of it in the spring. If he loses we'll never hear about any of it again. We'll also never have another real election again.
I gave up any emotional attachment to that stuff months ago. If trump wins, something might come out of it in the spring. If he loses we'll never hear about any of it again. We'll also never have another real election again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 01:06 PM (q3gwH)
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257 The Rock didn't have to say anything. Why open your mouth and piss off half of your fans?
He's said plenty of nasty things about Trump since he was elected...
He's said plenty of nasty things about Trump since he was elected...
Posted by: Poll troll extraordinaire at September 27, 2020 01:06 PM (Zmnko)
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I pay Verizon over $7500/year for cell phone, tv and internet access (me, my wife and 3 kids).
...
Holy ship.
6 cells unlimited $120/ month- military plan.
Internet $60/Month
No cable tv cut the cord.
...
Holy ship.
6 cells unlimited $120/ month- military plan.
Internet $60/Month
No cable tv cut the cord.
Posted by: Ha at September 27, 2020 01:06 PM (HpBcU)
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Muldoon, and all because there is nearly entirely false framework built up, at the national level, never corrected, about just about every aspect of C19.
Testing asymptomatics, continuing to ignore the distinctive demographic focus of mortality, the idiocy of masks, the focus on a vaccine, on and on.
There's a dramatic decline since '75.
I doubt any aspect of this debacle - the incompetent/politicized public institutions, the instant evaporation of the constitution, or the pathetic meek ignorant and fearful compliance of the Morlocks who have replaced Americans - would be the same.
Testing asymptomatics, continuing to ignore the distinctive demographic focus of mortality, the idiocy of masks, the focus on a vaccine, on and on.
There's a dramatic decline since '75.
I doubt any aspect of this debacle - the incompetent/politicized public institutions, the instant evaporation of the constitution, or the pathetic meek ignorant and fearful compliance of the Morlocks who have replaced Americans - would be the same.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:06 PM (OTzUX)
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Hell, I'm shooting for veni vidi vici. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 01:01 PM (9Om/r)
As long as it's in Latin...you know, lawyers...
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 01:01 PM (9Om/r)
As long as it's in Latin...you know, lawyers...
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:06 PM (zr5Kq)
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The Rock didn't have to say anything. Why open your mouth and piss off half of your fans?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (dNzKv)
There have been rumblings for some time, that the meathead could be a candidate for office.
And I don't think they mean some county counsel somewhere.
I don't really know anything about the guy, other than he's an actor, after having been a wrassler. He looks like the kind of guy who has secrets, even though they have been cultivating a squeaky clean image for years now.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (dNzKv)
There have been rumblings for some time, that the meathead could be a candidate for office.
And I don't think they mean some county counsel somewhere.
I don't really know anything about the guy, other than he's an actor, after having been a wrassler. He looks like the kind of guy who has secrets, even though they have been cultivating a squeaky clean image for years now.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (hku12)
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The Rock didn't have to say anything. Why open your mouth and piss off half of your fans?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
What he say now? A while back he said that if he was an NFL player he would be kneeling with the rest of them. That's when he became dead to me.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
What he say now? A while back he said that if he was an NFL player he would be kneeling with the rest of them. That's when he became dead to me.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (2DOZq)
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257 The Rock didn't have to say anything. Why open your mouth and piss off half of your fans?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
I agree. That was a mistake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (+y/Ru)
But everyone in Hollywood and duh media support Biden, so EVERYONE must.
He's living in a bubble.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
I agree. That was a mistake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (+y/Ru)
But everyone in Hollywood and duh media support Biden, so EVERYONE must.
He's living in a bubble.
Posted by: Thor at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (NgKpN)
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I really want to believe that McConnell will not let the ACB nomination elude him of the opportunity to shove Harry Reid's trashing of the process down the dems' throats.
Posted by: Old Dude at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (LGXGf)
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New Rule: if a judge is confirmed by the Senate, and nominated for another position within 5 years of that confirmation, there is no need for additional hearings.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (Bl5GC)
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The old saw on education: "We once taught Latin and Greek in middle school. Now we teach remedial English in college."
Posted by: Hierominous Botch at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (YqED9)
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Why are we testing asymptomatic individuals?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (Fc5rx)
How else are they going to come up with numbers they can manipulate to terrify people? Nothing about COVID now is medical. It's 100% political.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (Fc5rx)
How else are they going to come up with numbers they can manipulate to terrify people? Nothing about COVID now is medical. It's 100% political.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (XxJt1)
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223 I pay Verizon over $7500/year for cell phone, tv and internet access (me, my wife and 3 kids).
I pay 920 for myself. That would be 1032 for four.
Choices.
I pay 920 for myself. That would be 1032 for four.
Choices.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (vW9Vw)
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Hopefully if they start Oct 12 have a two week hearing then have a vote. There is no reason it should be longer.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 01:04 PM (OjZpE)
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Miss Lindsey says they start hearings on Oct 12 and will have their committee vote on her nomination on Oct. 22, and will then send it to full Senate for a confirmation vote.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 01:04 PM (OjZpE)
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Miss Lindsey says they start hearings on Oct 12 and will have their committee vote on her nomination on Oct. 22, and will then send it to full Senate for a confirmation vote.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (gtNWf)
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This will be familiar to some, but here goes anyway.
We live in the most exceptional nation on the planet, populated by an extraordinary people who are governed by a political system unique in history.
We have, in our saga, met and prevailed over issues much more serious which have ruined lesser nations. So shall this one be prevailed over.
Nothing in the foregoing can be refuted, thus we cannot fall prey to despair. We are Americans, and as such are denied the option of failure.
We live in the most exceptional nation on the planet, populated by an extraordinary people who are governed by a political system unique in history.
We have, in our saga, met and prevailed over issues much more serious which have ruined lesser nations. So shall this one be prevailed over.
Nothing in the foregoing can be refuted, thus we cannot fall prey to despair. We are Americans, and as such are denied the option of failure.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (KATBx)
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The bigger the number infected makes the pandemic into the apocalypse. So inflated infected and count every death Covid-19 keeps everyone afraid.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (OjZpE)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (+y/Ru)
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The Rock didn't have to say anything. Why open your mouth and piss off half of your fans?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
I agree. That was a mistake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (+y/Ru)
He has been a no trumper left winger for some time now. He is part of the enemy and always has been
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
I agree. That was a mistake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (+y/Ru)
He has been a no trumper left winger for some time now. He is part of the enemy and always has been
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 01:08 PM (85Gof)
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259: Hopefully someone will show up im this thread and reassure everyone and school them as to why Rod and I are God's gift to integrity.
Posted by: billy plays bagpipes at September 27, 2020 01:08 PM (ONvIw)
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120 Surprised? Maria Bartiromo is now reporting there will be no additional Durham news "before the election." And, as Barr says in this very video, "What happens after the election may depend on who wins the election."
There it is.
"Two weeks" now is become "vote as if the Republic is at stake". Or, maybe it always was that and our hopes and dreams were badly mistaken. Buy ammo.
https://tinyurl.com/yxp835p6
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (gtNWf)
This is demoralizing. Who thinks this is a good idea in the Trump administration?
Basically they are saying trust us, bro.... just like every other republican who has Fricked us in the B-Hole.
There it is.
"Two weeks" now is become "vote as if the Republic is at stake". Or, maybe it always was that and our hopes and dreams were badly mistaken. Buy ammo.
https://tinyurl.com/yxp835p6
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 12:30 PM (gtNWf)
This is demoralizing. Who thinks this is a good idea in the Trump administration?
Basically they are saying trust us, bro.... just like every other republican who has Fricked us in the B-Hole.
Posted by: Ugh at September 27, 2020 01:08 PM (jEaVp)
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Poll troll is gonna have to do better
All the polls, including some he cited today, from 2016 had Hillary up 5-7 points
Wanna know the secret sauce they're using to justify Biden up 10?
At this time in 2016, Hillary was polling at 40% favorable.
And, currently, Biden sits at 44%.
Presto chango--Biden is polling better than Hillary.
I really do think the theory that Team Biden believes the current polls are accurate is the only explanation that fits
All the polls, including some he cited today, from 2016 had Hillary up 5-7 points
Wanna know the secret sauce they're using to justify Biden up 10?
At this time in 2016, Hillary was polling at 40% favorable.
And, currently, Biden sits at 44%.
Presto chango--Biden is polling better than Hillary.
I really do think the theory that Team Biden believes the current polls are accurate is the only explanation that fits
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 27, 2020 01:08 PM (aO8Gd)
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215 What this site needs is flashing colored text.
Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2020 12:54 PM (RV5lj)
I seem to remember being able to do more with text at AOSHQ back during the Kerry campaign. Perhaps I'm wrong. If we were able to do flashy things, well, the Horde certainly found ways to abuse it.
Posted by: f'd at September 27, 2020 12:54 PM (RV5lj)
I seem to remember being able to do more with text at AOSHQ back during the Kerry campaign. Perhaps I'm wrong. If we were able to do flashy things, well, the Horde certainly found ways to abuse it.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 27, 2020 01:08 PM (9IdCK)
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The rock is nothing but a brain dead steroid monster. Why idolize that? He never even had the thin credit of being involved in a real sport. Why did so many people start looking to circus freaks for their politics?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 01:09 PM (q3gwH)
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Anyone who watched 5 minutes his HBO show Ballers, knew The Rock was an anti-Trump rabid SJW.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:09 PM (Bl5GC)
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One of the reasons for that is a key part of the Democrats' base is bitter childless women who have lots of cats, and imagine that they are in that situation because they are "feminists".
ACB is a living refutation of their entire lives, and they will not forgive her for it.
Worse, she's living the life the feminists claim is attainable but generally isn't. Which is leading the left right into the trap of "demand to know who's actually taking care of her kids, because the life we claimed was possible for all women isn't actually possible". Anything they try will play poorly with voters.
ACB is a living refutation of their entire lives, and they will not forgive her for it.
Worse, she's living the life the feminists claim is attainable but generally isn't. Which is leading the left right into the trap of "demand to know who's actually taking care of her kids, because the life we claimed was possible for all women isn't actually possible". Anything they try will play poorly with voters.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 27, 2020 01:09 PM (6XLoz)
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I got a bad felling about Graham
He looks mighty guilty on the tube
like he's getting ready to fuck someone over
us
He looks mighty guilty on the tube
like he's getting ready to fuck someone over
us
Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2020 01:09 PM (O+AcM)
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Maria's video worked for me, seconds ago.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 27, 2020 01:09 PM (Cus5s)
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Hopefully if they start Oct 12 have a two week hearing then have a vote. There is no reason it should be longer.Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 01:04 PM (OjZpE)+++
And if the dems start their inevitable bs,end the hearings and call the vote, immediately.
And if the dems start their inevitable bs,end the hearings and call the vote, immediately.
Posted by: Old Dude at September 27, 2020 01:09 PM (LGXGf)
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I started high school in the fall of 1962. In my entire four years of high school, my graduating class of about 400 had only one girl who became pregnant, one guy who swiped his mom's uppers, and he guy who was suspended time and again from coming to school drunk. The most successful girl was the girl who got married less than a week after graduation.
I started college in the fall of 1966. In my three years there, there was a little weed floating around, no hard drugs, and we girls were locked into the dorms after 7:00 pm every night. And the most successful girls were the ones who got engaged.
In the summer of '67, I talked with a high school friend who was then in the Navy. He told me all about the drugs and hippies in San Francisco. I couldn't believe what he was saying. But then, of course, it began rolling out of San Francisco to cover the entire country.
The point of my rambling is that I agree with CBD; the improvement of material life since the '60s is not matched by an improvement in society. Sure, my kids grew up with colored tv, microwaves, computers, and other nifty conveniences of all types. But they also grew up with drugs in their grade schools, kids with no fathers(the XO was practically the neighborhood father), and entirely too many horrible options. I've been fortunate; all four of my kids have healthy long term relationships, are successfully employed, and are not a drag on society. But far too many of their childhood friends have none of those because of social pressure that began at a far too early age.
I started college in the fall of 1966. In my three years there, there was a little weed floating around, no hard drugs, and we girls were locked into the dorms after 7:00 pm every night. And the most successful girls were the ones who got engaged.
In the summer of '67, I talked with a high school friend who was then in the Navy. He told me all about the drugs and hippies in San Francisco. I couldn't believe what he was saying. But then, of course, it began rolling out of San Francisco to cover the entire country.
The point of my rambling is that I agree with CBD; the improvement of material life since the '60s is not matched by an improvement in society. Sure, my kids grew up with colored tv, microwaves, computers, and other nifty conveniences of all types. But they also grew up with drugs in their grade schools, kids with no fathers(the XO was practically the neighborhood father), and entirely too many horrible options. I've been fortunate; all four of my kids have healthy long term relationships, are successfully employed, and are not a drag on society. But far too many of their childhood friends have none of those because of social pressure that began at a far too early age.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at September 27, 2020 01:09 PM (yHHWj)
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Start hearings Oct 12, finish hearings Oct 12, vote in senate Oct 13.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 01:09 PM (dNzKv)
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Durham? And that's a surprise? Even shipwreckedcrew was saying days ago that the reports that came out this last week were all we're gonna get before the election.
I gave up any emotional attachment to that stuff months ago. If trump wins, something might come out of it in the spring. If he loses we'll never hear about any of it again. We'll also never have another real election again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 01:06 PM (q3gwH)
My impression is that indictments of household names would be a net negative for the Trump campaign at this point.
So either he wins, and these investigations go where they will, or he loses, and ALL of us have bigger problems than whether Brennan and Comey and Hillory and Bobama get frogmarched.
I gave up any emotional attachment to that stuff months ago. If trump wins, something might come out of it in the spring. If he loses we'll never hear about any of it again. We'll also never have another real election again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 01:06 PM (q3gwH)
My impression is that indictments of household names would be a net negative for the Trump campaign at this point.
So either he wins, and these investigations go where they will, or he loses, and ALL of us have bigger problems than whether Brennan and Comey and Hillory and Bobama get frogmarched.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:09 PM (hku12)
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284: He's more a man than I ever was.
Posted by: billy plays bagpipes at September 27, 2020 01:10 PM (ONvIw)
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255I wish that were the case here. My friends and I went for a 20 mile bike ride yesterday. The maskatroons were everywhere. Well over half the people were diapered up. Keep in mind this was on a bike path, out in the open in the hot sun, and wind. I so hate the sight of this. I about at the DEATH TO THE FACELESS point in my disgust.
JWM
JWM
Posted by: jwm at September 27, 2020 01:10 PM (HnUoF)
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I really do think the theory that Team Biden believes the current polls are accurate is the only explanation that fits
I believe they know better, but the operation right now is to convince the left that Trump cheated so they can throw the entire nation into chaos.
I believe they know better, but the operation right now is to convince the left that Trump cheated so they can throw the entire nation into chaos.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:10 PM (KZzsI)
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CBD: I think the problem is worse than that.
I think certain parts of the free market economists misunderstand the long-term viability of the "let's persecute everyone who makes anything locally for Crimes Against Gaia, while rewarding the freight forwarders like Bezos and Amazon that just resell imports from China instead."
What good does a larger TV do you if you can't have a steady job and _have_ to vote for the socialist in order to keep the wheel turning and have a roof over your head, health care, etc?
Combined with the Welfare State, it's a recipie for evental cascade failure of the entire economy, _and_ a large popular movement in support of socialism.
All because tax farmers for combustion like Elon Musk were seen as a "libertarian, market" solution but tariffs weren't.
I think certain parts of the free market economists misunderstand the long-term viability of the "let's persecute everyone who makes anything locally for Crimes Against Gaia, while rewarding the freight forwarders like Bezos and Amazon that just resell imports from China instead."
What good does a larger TV do you if you can't have a steady job and _have_ to vote for the socialist in order to keep the wheel turning and have a roof over your head, health care, etc?
Combined with the Welfare State, it's a recipie for evental cascade failure of the entire economy, _and_ a large popular movement in support of socialism.
All because tax farmers for combustion like Elon Musk were seen as a "libertarian, market" solution but tariffs weren't.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at September 27, 2020 01:10 PM (Clxcy)
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Or, as a great History professor once told me "man does not live by bread alone."
Of course he was not the primary source, but in discussions of what motivates people both as individuals and as movements, it needs to be kept in mind.
Of course he was not the primary source, but in discussions of what motivates people both as individuals and as movements, it needs to be kept in mind.
Posted by: Mongo at September 27, 2020 01:10 PM (ZalkW)
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at September 27, 2020 01:11 PM (Clxcy)
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I think they probably talked with Barrett and agreed on the time. You got to give her enough time to get her shit together also. They got the votes so her life is completely different from here on out. Where to prepare, staff, kids, lodging, etc., etc. Then she has to move into her next job and start new in a different city, all before the end of next month. Busy month for her to say the least.
Posted by: lowandslow
This is what I thought also. Seven kids in new schools, does hubby move now or end of the year. It's not like they can just pack a suitcase and go.
I think they probably talked with Barrett and agreed on the time. You got to give her enough time to get her shit together also. They got the votes so her life is completely different from here on out. Where to prepare, staff, kids, lodging, etc., etc. Then she has to move into her next job and start new in a different city, all before the end of next month. Busy month for her to say the least.
Posted by: lowandslow
This is what I thought also. Seven kids in new schools, does hubby move now or end of the year. It's not like they can just pack a suitcase and go.
Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2020 01:11 PM (4ZQiP)
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Graham is a two-faced sodomite.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 27, 2020 01:12 PM (p6QYE)
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254 Education in the 70s was on the way downhill rapidly, though. My oldest brother graduated in 1976 and the stories he would tell about his high school were depressing even then. They were already starting to experiment with idiotic crap like the "mod system" and "new math" which were utter stupidity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (KZzsI)
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Yes! "Progressive" programs began much earlier than the 70's, but it was then that they became widespread.
Centralization by means of "expert" education schools and federal intervention, bore fruit in that decade.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:05 PM (KZzsI)
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Yes! "Progressive" programs began much earlier than the 70's, but it was then that they became widespread.
Centralization by means of "expert" education schools and federal intervention, bore fruit in that decade.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 01:13 PM (M/9m0)
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The point of my rambling is that I agree with CBD; the improvement of material life since the '60s is not matched by an improvement in society.
The 1960s were the end of cultural advancement in the USA, from then on its been downhill.
The 1960s were the end of cultural advancement in the USA, from then on its been downhill.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:13 PM (KZzsI)
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Not to mention some of the active degradations of our society, caused by the New Technologies, e.g. the availability of hard core porn to anyone and everyone with the intertubes.
I'm not averse to busty lovelies becoming fast friends, but in perspective, and on the whole, this has been a significantly corrosive and coursening influence in our country, and to the youth in particular.
I'm not averse to busty lovelies becoming fast friends, but in perspective, and on the whole, this has been a significantly corrosive and coursening influence in our country, and to the youth in particular.
Posted by: Mongo at September 27, 2020 01:13 PM (ZalkW)
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Why are we testing asymptomatic individuals?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (Fc5rx)
How else are they going to come up with numbers they can manipulate to terrify people? Nothing about COVID now is medical. It's 100% political.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (XxJt1)
I assume everyone who goes into a hospital today is tested. And a LOT of people who go to their outpatient appointments are tested as well, even if they have no symptoms indicating the Covid.
All of which inflates all the numbers, because a person who dies from heart disease or cancer or whatever else, if they also have the Covids, they become another notch on the board.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (Fc5rx)
How else are they going to come up with numbers they can manipulate to terrify people? Nothing about COVID now is medical. It's 100% political.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 01:07 PM (XxJt1)
I assume everyone who goes into a hospital today is tested. And a LOT of people who go to their outpatient appointments are tested as well, even if they have no symptoms indicating the Covid.
All of which inflates all the numbers, because a person who dies from heart disease or cancer or whatever else, if they also have the Covids, they become another notch on the board.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:14 PM (hku12)
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168 Why the fuck are they waiting till 12 OCT to start the committee hearings on Amy?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (85Gof)
Because they want Biden to win so they can continue to pretend to fight abortion and corruption.
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 12:39 PM (ONvIw)
Jewish holidays. You two....
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:42 PM (zr5Kq)
Well, shofar, shogood.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 12:36 PM (85Gof)
Because they want Biden to win so they can continue to pretend to fight abortion and corruption.
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 12:39 PM (ONvIw)
Jewish holidays. You two....
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:42 PM (zr5Kq)
Well, shofar, shogood.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:14 PM (NWiLs)
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"All the polls, including some he cited today, from 2016 had Hillary up 5-7 points"
That's not quite true. RCP does a 2020 vs 2016 comparison. As of today Biden's RCP average lead 7.0. In 2016, on the same day, Hillary's lead was 2.3. Biden is definitely ahead of where Hilalry was.
And before everyone jump down my throat.....I think the national polls are not that far off. CA will be 75-25 Biden. But who gives a fuck? What matters is state polls which are all pretty close and give Trump a pretty good chance of winning the electoral college.
That's not quite true. RCP does a 2020 vs 2016 comparison. As of today Biden's RCP average lead 7.0. In 2016, on the same day, Hillary's lead was 2.3. Biden is definitely ahead of where Hilalry was.
And before everyone jump down my throat.....I think the national polls are not that far off. CA will be 75-25 Biden. But who gives a fuck? What matters is state polls which are all pretty close and give Trump a pretty good chance of winning the electoral college.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:14 PM (Bl5GC)
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263 Hell, I'm shooting for veni vidi vici. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 01:01 PM (9Om/r)
As long as it's in Latin...you know, lawyers...
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:06 PM (zr5Kq)
YEAH, fuckin' lawyers! Wait...
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 01:01 PM (9Om/r)
As long as it's in Latin...you know, lawyers...
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:06 PM (zr5Kq)
YEAH, fuckin' lawyers! Wait...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (NWiLs)
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Jewish holidays. You two....
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:42 PM (zr5Kq)
Well, shofar, shogood.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:14 PM (NWiLs)
Yom Kippur ends tomorrow.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:42 PM (zr5Kq)
Well, shofar, shogood.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:14 PM (NWiLs)
Yom Kippur ends tomorrow.
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (ONvIw)
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299 The point of my rambling is that I agree with CBD; the improvement of material life since the '60s is not matched by an improvement in society.
The 1960s were the end of cultural advancement in the USA, from then on its been downhill.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:13 PM (KZzsI)
Americans landing on the moon was the highwater mark for the USA.
Change my mind...
The 1960s were the end of cultural advancement in the USA, from then on its been downhill.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:13 PM (KZzsI)
Americans landing on the moon was the highwater mark for the USA.
Change my mind...
Posted by: browndog at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (BgMrQ)
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297 Graham is a two-faced sodomite.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 27, 2020 01:12 PM (p6QYE)
for sure
In my 45 years of selling antiques, I was scammed by 2 people.
both sneaker lightweights
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 27, 2020 01:12 PM (p6QYE)
for sure
In my 45 years of selling antiques, I was scammed by 2 people.
both sneaker lightweights
Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (O+AcM)
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Somewhere a while back someone (or more than one) did just that - attempted to do an apples/apples comparison of educational attainment/level, comparing a 1950 high school graduate and a 1980 (?) college BA graduate.
Using what info was available, and making the best good-faith adjustments one could.
Yeah, it was not pretty.
But I think we have a serious chicken and egg problem here, with education and culture. Several wheels turning.
In many of our day, discipline and expectation of effort began at home - may have been subtle, may have been more like Marine boot camp - but it was there. Utter terror - the school contacting your parents about behavior.
Not just a simple matter of unionizing teachers (ridiculous). A culture-wide rot.
"Social promotion", when it started, was a radical and skeptically viewed fringe thing (believe Chicago area was first to formalize it). Then - it became the norm, since pretending and shoving bodies out the door is what you do when you don't really care and when the parents don't seem to care (if there's much of a household to speak of) or ......
Using what info was available, and making the best good-faith adjustments one could.
Yeah, it was not pretty.
But I think we have a serious chicken and egg problem here, with education and culture. Several wheels turning.
In many of our day, discipline and expectation of effort began at home - may have been subtle, may have been more like Marine boot camp - but it was there. Utter terror - the school contacting your parents about behavior.
Not just a simple matter of unionizing teachers (ridiculous). A culture-wide rot.
"Social promotion", when it started, was a radical and skeptically viewed fringe thing (believe Chicago area was first to formalize it). Then - it became the norm, since pretending and shoving bodies out the door is what you do when you don't really care and when the parents don't seem to care (if there's much of a household to speak of) or ......
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (OTzUX)
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"This exposes the limitations of economics as a science to describe societies. Where is the measure of the feeling among many Americans that we are no longer judged equally by our justice system? Where is the graph showing the shift from manufacturing to service jobs, and the decrease in stability of the typical American family. And most of all, show me the pie chart that describes the withering away of patriotism and pride in country, replaced by a globalist perspective that we are all just one big (not so) happy world family."
A most excellent commentary, CBD.
The deaths of 60M babies were not weighing on our souls. The separation of God from Society (under the false application of the first amendment)was not yet complete. Depravity was not yet mainstream.
Yes, those days were different.
A most excellent commentary, CBD.
The deaths of 60M babies were not weighing on our souls. The separation of God from Society (under the false application of the first amendment)was not yet complete. Depravity was not yet mainstream.
Yes, those days were different.
Posted by: Flyover at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (Rbu5d)
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The one really big area that a purely economic view missed - Education. That is an area where quality at all levels has totally collapsed. I think it's safe to say that the average high school graduate of 1970 had far more knowledge in all areas than anyone receiving a B.A. Degree from a liberal arts college today.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (q3gwH)
The elephant in the room: There was law forcing regular teachers to include emotionally- or cognitively-impaired students.
The Education for All Handicapped Children Act allowed for schools for the deaf, etc. In 1990, the United States Congress reauthorized EHA and changed the title to Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). Now you have classrooms with regular and special ed students side-by-side. If a teacher is lucky, he'll have a co-teacher who focuses on children with learning disabilities. If he's really, the co-teacher will actually modify assignments, not just give the answers, and won't be pulled out of the classroom to calm down an emotionally-impaired child.
The only escape is to create "honors" classes that really aren't honors-level but which allow brighter kids to get old-fashioned rigor.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (q3gwH)
The elephant in the room: There was law forcing regular teachers to include emotionally- or cognitively-impaired students.
The Education for All Handicapped Children Act allowed for schools for the deaf, etc. In 1990, the United States Congress reauthorized EHA and changed the title to Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA). Now you have classrooms with regular and special ed students side-by-side. If a teacher is lucky, he'll have a co-teacher who focuses on children with learning disabilities. If he's really, the co-teacher will actually modify assignments, not just give the answers, and won't be pulled out of the classroom to calm down an emotionally-impaired child.
The only escape is to create "honors" classes that really aren't honors-level but which allow brighter kids to get old-fashioned rigor.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (/+bwe)
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all because there is nearly entirely false framework built up, at the national level, never corrected, about just about every aspect of C19.
*******
And a populace willing to buy into the false framework.
Which comes back to the rapid dispersement of "information" without understanding or context. People whose only knowledge of science is how to look it up in Waikikipedia will rely on one of two things for their received wisdom: 1. Authority or 2. Superstition
*******
And a populace willing to buy into the false framework.
Which comes back to the rapid dispersement of "information" without understanding or context. People whose only knowledge of science is how to look it up in Waikikipedia will rely on one of two things for their received wisdom: 1. Authority or 2. Superstition
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (Fc5rx)
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160 The Gov. Of California ended the First Amendment with the permission of the Chief Justice. This isn't even the United States of America anymore.
Posted by: Burkeanmama at September 27, 2020 12:40 PM (CYk5a)
Yeah, can't disagree the Cali Guvnor, like the other Left Coast Blue Guvnors, have effed it up but I have this feeling it isn't going to stand.
The economics are just too whacked out for stability. Amazon and high tech getting fat, while small business and restaurants die on the vine without any concern from the Blue "leaders". Farmers and ranchers are getting screwed, too, and it's difficult to live without food.
A giant vacuum is being formed, and we all know, nature hates a vacuum. That's when chit starts happening quick.
Posted by: Burkeanmama at September 27, 2020 12:40 PM (CYk5a)
Yeah, can't disagree the Cali Guvnor, like the other Left Coast Blue Guvnors, have effed it up but I have this feeling it isn't going to stand.
The economics are just too whacked out for stability. Amazon and high tech getting fat, while small business and restaurants die on the vine without any concern from the Blue "leaders". Farmers and ranchers are getting screwed, too, and it's difficult to live without food.
A giant vacuum is being formed, and we all know, nature hates a vacuum. That's when chit starts happening quick.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 01:16 PM (sy5kK)
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Graham is a two-faced sodomite.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 27, 2020 01:12 PM (p6QYE)
Why art thou so bitterest ?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 27, 2020 01:12 PM (p6QYE)
Why art thou so bitterest ?
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:16 PM (zr5Kq)
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So sundown compared PDT to Geobells the other day...I hope PDT rams that down his senile throat tuesday night and makes him eat his words
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 01:16 PM (85Gof)
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all because there is nearly entirely false framework built up, at the national level, never corrected, about just about every aspect of C19.
In other word, it's all bullshit.
In other word, it's all bullshit.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:16 PM (NWiLs)
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ACB wont be the first lady that Graham failed to put to bed
Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2020 01:17 PM (O+AcM)
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The college education complex convinced the masses that everyone needs a college degree, sometime in the 70s or 80s. And so college has now become what high school was in the 50s or 60s. Everyone goes, not everyone graduates, and most of those that graduate 1/2 ass it through.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:17 PM (Bl5GC)
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ACB wont be the first lady that Graham failed to put to bed
Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2020 01:17 PM (O+AcM)
I see what you did there LOL
Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2020 01:17 PM (O+AcM)
I see what you did there LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 01:18 PM (85Gof)
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There are two ways to approach irrational fear of an unknown.
1. Embrace the fear and dismiss the thought that is irrational. Wallow in it.
2. Seek to understand the origin of the fear, seek to know that which was previously unknown.
1. Embrace the fear and dismiss the thought that is irrational. Wallow in it.
2. Seek to understand the origin of the fear, seek to know that which was previously unknown.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:18 PM (Fc5rx)
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@317
So you went to the finest schools but all you did was get juiced in it.
So you went to the finest schools but all you did was get juiced in it.
Posted by: Robert Zimmerman at September 27, 2020 01:18 PM (ZalkW)
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I had to have a Covid test prior to my colonoscopy.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (2DOZq)
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>>>My impression is that indictments of household names would be a net negative for the Trump campaign at this point.
So either he wins, and these investigations go where they will, or he loses, and ALL of us have bigger problems than whether Brennan and Comey and Hillory and Bobama get frogmarched.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:09 PM (hku12)
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This ties with an article that said (Ukraine type ) corruption was happening on both sides of the isle.
So either he wins, and these investigations go where they will, or he loses, and ALL of us have bigger problems than whether Brennan and Comey and Hillory and Bobama get frogmarched.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:09 PM (hku12)
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This ties with an article that said (Ukraine type ) corruption was happening on both sides of the isle.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (vW9Vw)
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I had to have a Covid test prior to my colonoscopy.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (2DOZq)
Same instrument?
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (2DOZq)
Same instrument?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (85Gof)
324
all because there is nearly entirely false framework built up, at the national level, never corrected, about just about every aspect of C19.
Yeah there was a host of misinformation, confusion, and mythology built up at the start which took hold and has never been removed or corrected nationally. ITs been refuted, the data is out there, but the press and guys like Fauci don't seem to want to get it out.
People believe myths aplenty about the Wuhan Flu:
1) It didn't come from China
2) It lives for days on surfaces
3) You can catch it again after you've had it before
4) Its more virulent than any previous virus we've dealt with
5) Its the first pandemic
6) People with it walk around with a death cloud around them like pigpen
7) We can prevent others from getting it by isolating ourselves from everyone else
And there's even more than that. People are living in stark raving terror and will not, some CANNOT hear the truth and learn to calm down about it
Yeah there was a host of misinformation, confusion, and mythology built up at the start which took hold and has never been removed or corrected nationally. ITs been refuted, the data is out there, but the press and guys like Fauci don't seem to want to get it out.
People believe myths aplenty about the Wuhan Flu:
1) It didn't come from China
2) It lives for days on surfaces
3) You can catch it again after you've had it before
4) Its more virulent than any previous virus we've dealt with
5) Its the first pandemic
6) People with it walk around with a death cloud around them like pigpen
7) We can prevent others from getting it by isolating ourselves from everyone else
And there's even more than that. People are living in stark raving terror and will not, some CANNOT hear the truth and learn to calm down about it
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (KZzsI)
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JWM, loved your comment about the way back, when you lived in the OC and surfed at San Onofre (Trestles, I assume).
Was your bike-ride with the idiotically masked-up people in CA?
I've seen a handful of this ridiculous thing in SoCal, not many. Outdoors, about 90% normal now.
But seeing the young families, with little kids in masks, reminds me of how collapsed our institutions are, and how collapsed education and sense are among the populace. Pathetic, really.
Was your bike-ride with the idiotically masked-up people in CA?
I've seen a handful of this ridiculous thing in SoCal, not many. Outdoors, about 90% normal now.
But seeing the young families, with little kids in masks, reminds me of how collapsed our institutions are, and how collapsed education and sense are among the populace. Pathetic, really.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (OTzUX)
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323 I had to have a Covid test prior to my colonoscopy.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (2DOZq)
Same instrument?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (85Gof)
They swabbed his sinuses but went in through the ass.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (2DOZq)
Same instrument?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (85Gof)
They swabbed his sinuses but went in through the ass.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (NWiLs)
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We've suffered many losses in the last 50 years. Among the worst is our lost faith in the news media, the judiciary, and academia. We used to believe if an issue were referred to the courts, both sides would get a fair shot and the result was a good faith attempt at justice. Now we have judges ordering parents to pretend a boy is a girl. That is both crazy and evil and everybody knows if. Similarly, we now know that "journalists" routinely lie to and about us and academic scientists create evidence free science supported by the canceling of anyone who dares disagree. Where do we go to get our faith back?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (+y/Ru)
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They are taking too long bringing ACB to a vote.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (vW9Vw)
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This ties with an article that said (Ukraine type ) corruption was happening on both sides of the isle.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM
My guess is Pierre Delecto and the fruit of his loins.
This ties with an article that said (Ukraine type ) corruption was happening on both sides of the isle.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM
My guess is Pierre Delecto and the fruit of his loins.
Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (4ZQiP)
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325 JWM, loved your comment about the way back, when you lived in the OC and surfed at San Onofre (Trestles, I assume).
Was your bike-ride with the idiotically masked-up people in CA?
I've seen a handful of this ridiculous thing in SoCal, not many. Outdoors, about 90% normal now.
But seeing the young families, with little kids in masks, reminds me of how collapsed our institutions are, and how collapsed education and sense are among the populace. Pathetic, really.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (OTzUX)
People wearing masks while driving their cars. By themselves. Pathetic indeed.
Was your bike-ride with the idiotically masked-up people in CA?
I've seen a handful of this ridiculous thing in SoCal, not many. Outdoors, about 90% normal now.
But seeing the young families, with little kids in masks, reminds me of how collapsed our institutions are, and how collapsed education and sense are among the populace. Pathetic, really.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (OTzUX)
People wearing masks while driving their cars. By themselves. Pathetic indeed.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (NWiLs)
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It's going to take a law to get the Karens to stop wearing a mask. The habit is established and the indoctrination complete. The left will do everything in its power to see that this continues.
You've seen the pictures out of China...people wearing masks like ties and scarves. It's a part of them. And it's happening here.
You've seen the pictures out of China...people wearing masks like ties and scarves. It's a part of them. And it's happening here.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (XxJt1)
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211 146 - "Why the fuck are they waiting till 12 OCT to start the committee hearings on Amy?"
I think they probably talked with Barrett and agreed on the time. You got to give her enough time to get her shit together also. They got the votes so her life is completely different from here on out. Where to prepare, staff, kids, lodging, etc., etc. Then she has to move into her next job and start new in a different city, all before the end of next month. Busy month for her to say the least.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (4thlk)
"Aw, shucks. There was just no way we could keep the Democrats from running out the clock."
I think they probably talked with Barrett and agreed on the time. You got to give her enough time to get her shit together also. They got the votes so her life is completely different from here on out. Where to prepare, staff, kids, lodging, etc., etc. Then she has to move into her next job and start new in a different city, all before the end of next month. Busy month for her to say the least.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (4thlk)
"Aw, shucks. There was just no way we could keep the Democrats from running out the clock."
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (wGeit)
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America is so divided, if I don't throw the election to Biden, there'll be war!!!!
Posted by: Bullshit Durham at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (ONvIw)
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They swabbed his sinuses but went in through the ass.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (NWiLs)
I crapped out any Covid I may have had during the prep.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (NWiLs)
I crapped out any Covid I may have had during the prep.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (2DOZq)
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328 They are taking too long bringing ACB to a vote.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (vW9Vw)
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You can't make a turtle run fast.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (vW9Vw)
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You can't make a turtle run fast.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (Bl5GC)
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334 They swabbed his sinuses but went in through the ass.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (NWiLs)
I crapped out any Covid I may have had during the prep.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (2DOZq)
Hah! From what I've heard about the prep that's probably true!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (NWiLs)
I crapped out any Covid I may have had during the prep.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (2DOZq)
Hah! From what I've heard about the prep that's probably true!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:22 PM (NWiLs)
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Jewish holidays. You two....
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:42 PM (zr5Kq)
Should they then just go into recess like God and Jefferson intended for them to so?
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 12:42 PM (zr5Kq)
Should they then just go into recess like God and Jefferson intended for them to so?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 01:22 PM (/Dgcm)
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303 Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:14 PM (Bl5GC)
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It's not hard to believe Biden is running ahead of Hillary, I guess. But Polls are structurally more unsound now than ever before, so trusting these national numbers is hard.
People don't have land lines, don't answer polling calls, or are unwilling to sit through a long polling call. Even calling cell numbers, as polling companies try to do, doesn't really help: people living in one state carry cell phones with a different state area code. My neighbors just moved here from NYC and carry phones with Raleigh area codes, and North Carolina was last their home five years ago. My kids live in Massachusetts but have NJ area codes.
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It's not hard to believe Biden is running ahead of Hillary, I guess. But Polls are structurally more unsound now than ever before, so trusting these national numbers is hard.
People don't have land lines, don't answer polling calls, or are unwilling to sit through a long polling call. Even calling cell numbers, as polling companies try to do, doesn't really help: people living in one state carry cell phones with a different state area code. My neighbors just moved here from NYC and carry phones with Raleigh area codes, and North Carolina was last their home five years ago. My kids live in Massachusetts but have NJ area codes.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:22 PM (gtNWf)
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It is not that long. Only a couple of weeks. She needs time too.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:22 PM (zr5Kq)
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50 years ago you'd have had a married couple with one income with a house and kids.
Today it takes two incomes for the same lifestyle and far fewer married people with far fewer kids.
Shipping jobs overseas and bringing hordes of low skill workers here destroyed that.
This has been *very* good for the upper middle class though. Instead of hiring American servants at American rates they can hire illegals, and can then buy crap made in China at slave wages.
Today it takes two incomes for the same lifestyle and far fewer married people with far fewer kids.
Shipping jobs overseas and bringing hordes of low skill workers here destroyed that.
This has been *very* good for the upper middle class though. Instead of hiring American servants at American rates they can hire illegals, and can then buy crap made in China at slave wages.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2020 01:23 PM (qlFIA)
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I think they probably talked with Barrett and agreed on the time.
The Senate has a schedule as well, they are doing other things and had to clear time, that's probably as early as they could get to it. Its not like they're all sitting around in hammocks waiting for a judicial hearing
The Senate has a schedule as well, they are doing other things and had to clear time, that's probably as early as they could get to it. Its not like they're all sitting around in hammocks waiting for a judicial hearing
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:23 PM (KZzsI)
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But hey, we had dial phones and indoor terlits.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Big Dumb Weirdo at September 27, 2020 12:47 PM (x8Wzq)
There was a video a few months ago of a couple of teenage boys that were given a dial telephone, which they had never seen before, and told to make a phone call.
It was funny, and it took the kids about 4 minutes or so, but they finally figured out how to make the call. It was also interesting just watching them figure out what was for them, a new puzzle.
They have no problems with the new, high tech stuff, but low tech? Hah.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Big Dumb Weirdo at September 27, 2020 12:47 PM (x8Wzq)
There was a video a few months ago of a couple of teenage boys that were given a dial telephone, which they had never seen before, and told to make a phone call.
It was funny, and it took the kids about 4 minutes or so, but they finally figured out how to make the call. It was also interesting just watching them figure out what was for them, a new puzzle.
They have no problems with the new, high tech stuff, but low tech? Hah.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 01:23 PM (sy5kK)
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Should they then just go into recess like God and Jefferson intended for them to so?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 01:22 PM (/Dgcm)
What's that ?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 01:22 PM (/Dgcm)
What's that ?
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:23 PM (zr5Kq)
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So, I just checked a bunch of blogs, twitter feeds and cannot find a single live look at what Biden had to say. One article said he said they shouldn;t vote before the election but no live quote or whether he said anything substantive.This is getting to be ridiculous.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 27, 2020 01:23 PM (sd8p8)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 27, 2020 01:24 PM (EZebt)
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Every day that ACB isn't voted on is a day that opens the door to bullshit accusations from Dems and a delay. It's ridiculous that they're waiting 2 weeks to start hearings.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:24 PM (Bl5GC)
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343 Should they then just go into recess like God and Jefferson intended for them to so?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 01:22 PM (/Dgcm)
What's that ?
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:23 PM (zr5Kq)
Used to be about a half hour in the morning when they'd let the schoolkids go out and play. They've gotten rid of that.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 01:22 PM (/Dgcm)
What's that ?
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:23 PM (zr5Kq)
Used to be about a half hour in the morning when they'd let the schoolkids go out and play. They've gotten rid of that.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:24 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 01:24 PM (+y/Ru)
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If all the data on Covid is a lie, none of it can be used to derive the truth.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:24 PM (vW9Vw)
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Globalist economics is good for everyone in general, but hurts some of our fellow citizens specifically.
I make no bones about caring what happens to them more than I care what happens to foreigners.
I make no bones about caring what happens to them more than I care what happens to foreigners.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2020 01:24 PM (yQpMk)
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I subscribe and read ethical skeptic quite a bit, but even with the constant drumbeat I also remain probably more cautious than necessary. It's hard to swim against the fear stream when it's peddled 24/7.
Posted by: InCali at September 27, 2020 01:24 PM (9AFWN)
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326 323 I had to have a Covid test prior to my colonoscopy.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (2DOZq)
Same instrument?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (85Gof)
They swabbed his sinuses but went in through the ass.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (NWiLs)
Hahahahah...Stop!...hahahahaha!
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (2DOZq)
Same instrument?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 27, 2020 01:19 PM (85Gof)
They swabbed his sinuses but went in through the ass.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (NWiLs)
Hahahahah...Stop!...hahahahaha!
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 01:25 PM (XxJt1)
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People believe myths aplenty about the Wuhan Flu:
...
2) It lives for days on sufaces
That's actually true. You can cultivate it something like nine days after a surface is contaminated, under ideal conditions. But that's not the same thing as saying you can contract it from that surface after more than an hour or two.
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2) It lives for days on sufaces
That's actually true. You can cultivate it something like nine days after a surface is contaminated, under ideal conditions. But that's not the same thing as saying you can contract it from that surface after more than an hour or two.
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 27, 2020 01:25 PM (wGeit)
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Hollywood is a Leftist cabal.
They probably told The Rock to get his mind right, or no more roles for him.
They probably told The Rock to get his mind right, or no more roles for him.
Posted by: navybrat waits and watches at September 27, 2020 01:25 PM (w7KSn)
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Today it takes two incomes for the same lifestyle and far fewer married people with far fewer kids.
People say that, but its not exactly true. Its just that we've added a bunch of expenses that people 50 years ago didn't have. Then they didn't pay for Cable, Internet, Phones, etc. The cost of all this entertainment is assumed and shrugged at but is a pretty surprisingly large portion of your monthly bills.
Go ahead and write out just stuff that wasn't around 50 years ago and add it up. That's what the wife is working for.
People say that, but its not exactly true. Its just that we've added a bunch of expenses that people 50 years ago didn't have. Then they didn't pay for Cable, Internet, Phones, etc. The cost of all this entertainment is assumed and shrugged at but is a pretty surprisingly large portion of your monthly bills.
Go ahead and write out just stuff that wasn't around 50 years ago and add it up. That's what the wife is working for.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:25 PM (KZzsI)
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Winning! /s
https://mobile.twitter.com/MariaBartiromo/ status/1310221953110888449
Breaking news: NO John durham interim report. No indictments before election - Bartiromo sources.
@SundayFutures
@FoxNews
@MorningsMaria
@FoxBusin
Posted by: Ugh at September 27, 2020 12:18 PM (jEaVp)
Whoo Hoo !
#TwoMonths !
https://mobile.twitter.com/MariaBartiromo/ status/1310221953110888449
Breaking news: NO John durham interim report. No indictments before election - Bartiromo sources.
@SundayFutures
@FoxNews
@MorningsMaria
@FoxBusin
Posted by: Ugh at September 27, 2020 12:18 PM (jEaVp)
Whoo Hoo !
#TwoMonths !
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (/Dgcm)
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That's not quite true. RCP does a 2020 vs 2016 comparison. As of today Biden's RCP average lead 7.0. In 2016, on the same day, Hillary's lead was 2.3. Biden is definitely ahead of where Hilalry was.
Posted by: Asshoes
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You're either lying or using something that's been cherry picked.
Here's a CNN poll where Hillary leads by 12 points dated Oct 23rd
https://tinyurl.com/yymz9fog
Here's a rundown of some of the last weeks of polling, almost all but Rasmussen show a 7 to 12 point gap.
https://tinyurl.com/y45d78v4
Posted by: Asshoes
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You're either lying or using something that's been cherry picked.
Here's a CNN poll where Hillary leads by 12 points dated Oct 23rd
https://tinyurl.com/yymz9fog
Here's a rundown of some of the last weeks of polling, almost all but Rasmussen show a 7 to 12 point gap.
https://tinyurl.com/y45d78v4
Posted by: Blago at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (gkdnV)
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340 50 years ago you'd have had a married couple with one income with a house and kids.
Today it takes two incomes for the same lifestyle and far fewer married people with far fewer kids.
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Wasn't quite 50 years ago, but in the 70s/80s when I was growing up, pretty much all the kids I went to school with had both parents working. We were middle to not quite upper middle class.
This dad working, mom staying home in the "old days" is a bit of a myth, I think.
Today it takes two incomes for the same lifestyle and far fewer married people with far fewer kids.
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Wasn't quite 50 years ago, but in the 70s/80s when I was growing up, pretty much all the kids I went to school with had both parents working. We were middle to not quite upper middle class.
This dad working, mom staying home in the "old days" is a bit of a myth, I think.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Bl5GC)
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the pathetic meek ignorant and fearful compliance of the Morlocks who have replaced Americans - would be the same.
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Morlocks?
Weren't the Eloi the meek, fearful ones?
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Morlocks?
Weren't the Eloi the meek, fearful ones?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Fc5rx)
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328 They are taking too long bringing ACB to a vote.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (vW9Vw)
They are delaying it so when something goes wrong, and it will, they will have a valid excuse on why it can't be done before the election
if they moved now, they could still remedy the problem and vote before the election
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:21 PM (vW9Vw)
They are delaying it so when something goes wrong, and it will, they will have a valid excuse on why it can't be done before the election
if they moved now, they could still remedy the problem and vote before the election
Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2020 01:27 PM (O+AcM)
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355 Today it takes two incomes for the same lifestyle and far fewer married people with far fewer kids.
People say that, but its not exactly true. Its just that we've added a bunch of expenses that people 50 years ago didn't have. Then they didn't pay for Cable, Internet, Phones, etc. The cost of all this entertainment is assumed and shrugged at but is a pretty surprisingly large portion of your monthly bills.
Go ahead and write out just stuff that wasn't around 50 years ago and add it up. That's what the wife is working for.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:25 PM (KZzsI)
True. Your internet/cable/cellphone probably comes out to around $5,000 a year, which isn't chump change.
People say that, but its not exactly true. Its just that we've added a bunch of expenses that people 50 years ago didn't have. Then they didn't pay for Cable, Internet, Phones, etc. The cost of all this entertainment is assumed and shrugged at but is a pretty surprisingly large portion of your monthly bills.
Go ahead and write out just stuff that wasn't around 50 years ago and add it up. That's what the wife is working for.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:25 PM (KZzsI)
True. Your internet/cable/cellphone probably comes out to around $5,000 a year, which isn't chump change.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:27 PM (NWiLs)
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357 That's not quite true. RCP does a 2020 vs 2016 comparison. As of today Biden's RCP average lead 7.0. In 2016, on the same day, Hillary's lead was 2.3. Biden is definitely ahead of where Hilalry was.
Posted by: Asshoes
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You're either lying or using something that's been cherry picked.
Here's a CNN poll where Hillary leads by 12 points dated Oct 23rd
https://tinyurl.com/yymz9fog
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Sigh. I specifically said RCP AVERAGE and you point to a CNN and a Rasmussen poll.
Posted by: Asshoes
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You're either lying or using something that's been cherry picked.
Here's a CNN poll where Hillary leads by 12 points dated Oct 23rd
https://tinyurl.com/yymz9fog
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Sigh. I specifically said RCP AVERAGE and you point to a CNN and a Rasmussen poll.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:27 PM (Bl5GC)
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Where do we go to get our faith back?
That's one of the things war is for. You have faith that the survivors will do things right because you killed all of those who wouldn't.
That's one of the things war is for. You have faith that the survivors will do things right because you killed all of those who wouldn't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 27, 2020 01:27 PM (q3gwH)
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Today at church was interesting. More than half the parishioners were saying fuck it and totally free facing.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2020 01:27 PM (yQpMk)
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Breaking news: NO John durham interim report. No indictments before election - Bartiromo sources.+++
And this will be the same DOJ that investigates the impending, massive vote-by-mail fraud. No problemo.
And this will be the same DOJ that investigates the impending, massive vote-by-mail fraud. No problemo.
Posted by: Old Dude at September 27, 2020 01:28 PM (LGXGf)
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There are two ways to approach irrational fear of an unknown.
1. Embrace the fear and dismiss the thought that is irrational. Wallow in it.
2. Seek to understand the origin of the fear, seek to know that which was previously unknown.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:18 PM (Fc5rx)
There is another...
Not quite embraced within #1, and not entirely dismissing the value of doing #2 as a long term project, is the concept of acknowledging the irrational thought/fear as just that. A thought. And recognize that thoughts and emotions are not who we are, they are merely something our minds do. To separate one's self from the mental processes we engage in ALL the time, takes effort, and the payoff is the ability to decide what to DO, regardless of whether we have the fear and/or irrational thought or not.
1. Embrace the fear and dismiss the thought that is irrational. Wallow in it.
2. Seek to understand the origin of the fear, seek to know that which was previously unknown.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:18 PM (Fc5rx)
There is another...
Not quite embraced within #1, and not entirely dismissing the value of doing #2 as a long term project, is the concept of acknowledging the irrational thought/fear as just that. A thought. And recognize that thoughts and emotions are not who we are, they are merely something our minds do. To separate one's self from the mental processes we engage in ALL the time, takes effort, and the payoff is the ability to decide what to DO, regardless of whether we have the fear and/or irrational thought or not.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:28 PM (hku12)
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I was a key latch kid. That's a big difference . My parents would be arrested for child negligence today.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:28 PM (2DOZq)
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The false framework I refer to is a bit higher level than some of those specific issues - talking more about the fact that a prevalent respiratory virus with an infection fatality rate less than influenza for most of the populace (not known in March, known in May) is not a public health crisis.
And that one doesn't "beat" it. And the only difference one can make in isolating the vulnerable, or treating acute cases - that's it.
The false framework infects many of the most vociferous "skeptics" (love how that word now just refers to people who actually analyze something rationally).
FL "managed C19 much better than NY!!!!".
No. Neither "managed" anything. Unless you refer to exacerbating fatalities (NY, nursing home policy), or *avoiding* artificial damage to society from lockdown policies (FL much better).
But neither "managed" the virus itself in any sense, nor could they.
THAT is the foundation of the false framework from which everything else flows, or at least the most damaging "policies".
And that one doesn't "beat" it. And the only difference one can make in isolating the vulnerable, or treating acute cases - that's it.
The false framework infects many of the most vociferous "skeptics" (love how that word now just refers to people who actually analyze something rationally).
FL "managed C19 much better than NY!!!!".
No. Neither "managed" anything. Unless you refer to exacerbating fatalities (NY, nursing home policy), or *avoiding* artificial damage to society from lockdown policies (FL much better).
But neither "managed" the virus itself in any sense, nor could they.
THAT is the foundation of the false framework from which everything else flows, or at least the most damaging "policies".
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:28 PM (OTzUX)
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325
Trestles it was, and you still had to sneak in, or paddle from San Onofre if Nixon was home in San Clemente. Yesterday we rode the Upper Rio Hondo trail which runs through the San Gabriel Valley. The maskatroons are everywhere, but the San Gabriel Valley has been thoroughly colonized by Asians for decades now. It's almost all Chinese. They are, by far and away, the most fanatical about wearing the muzzle. They seem to regard it as a sort of talisman, as if it has a magic effect to protect them from evil.
JWM
Trestles it was, and you still had to sneak in, or paddle from San Onofre if Nixon was home in San Clemente. Yesterday we rode the Upper Rio Hondo trail which runs through the San Gabriel Valley. The maskatroons are everywhere, but the San Gabriel Valley has been thoroughly colonized by Asians for decades now. It's almost all Chinese. They are, by far and away, the most fanatical about wearing the muzzle. They seem to regard it as a sort of talisman, as if it has a magic effect to protect them from evil.
JWM
Posted by: jwm at September 27, 2020 01:29 PM (HnUoF)
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Sigh. I specifically said RCP AVERAGE and you point to a CNN and a Rasmussen poll.
Bad data averaged is like having a teaspoon of shit in your quart of icecream.
Bad data averaged is like having a teaspoon of shit in your quart of icecream.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2020 01:29 PM (yQpMk)
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You're either lying or using something that's been cherry picked.
Posted by: Blago at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (gkdnV)
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That rhetoric is seriously uncalled for. Look at the RCP front page and you'll see the numbers he talked about. RCP may be wrong in calculating their index but he isn't "lying".
Posted by: Blago at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (gkdnV)
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That rhetoric is seriously uncalled for. Look at the RCP front page and you'll see the numbers he talked about. RCP may be wrong in calculating their index but he isn't "lying".
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:29 PM (gtNWf)
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Your internet/cable/cellphone probably comes out to around $5,000 a year, which isn't chump change.
Add to that buying a new phone every couple years, buying a new console game system every few years, and then there are little tricky things like how they suggest you get an oil change much more often these days than they did 50 years ago.
Add to that buying a new phone every couple years, buying a new console game system every few years, and then there are little tricky things like how they suggest you get an oil change much more often these days than they did 50 years ago.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:29 PM (KZzsI)
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A California woman, part of the "Caravan for Justice" rally, has been
charged with attempted murder after she allegedly drove her car through
the pro-Trump counter-protest Saturday, hitting two people.
Tatiana
Turner, 40, was booked into the Orange County Jail for attempted murder
and assault with a deadly weapon after she drove through the group of
Trump supporters outside the Yorba Linda Public Library around 3 p.m.
local time, according to the Orange County Sheriff's Department.
I'm surprised they even arrested her.
A California woman, part of the "Caravan for Justice" rally, has been
charged with attempted murder after she allegedly drove her car through
the pro-Trump counter-protest Saturday, hitting two people.
Tatiana
Turner, 40, was booked into the Orange County Jail for attempted murder
and assault with a deadly weapon after she drove through the group of
Trump supporters outside the Yorba Linda Public Library around 3 p.m.
local time, according to the Orange County Sheriff's Department.
I'm surprised they even arrested her.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 27, 2020 01:29 PM (YYJxy)
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Perhaps
if you went back to 1975 with the knowledge of what 2020 offered, or
else how would you know you what you were being deprived of ?
Or,
instead of living your daily life waiting with bated breath for breaking
news alerts or the next SC hearings or election or covid restrictions
being lifted or what The Rock or Kardashians have to say or 2 weeks, you might be more content to live in the moment of 1975.
Now, it's like everyone is always waiting for something.
if you went back to 1975 with the knowledge of what 2020 offered, or
else how would you know you what you were being deprived of ?
Or,
instead of living your daily life waiting with bated breath for breaking
news alerts or the next SC hearings or election or covid restrictions
being lifted or what The Rock or Kardashians have to say or 2 weeks, you might be more content to live in the moment of 1975.
Now, it's like everyone is always waiting for something.
Posted by: old chick at September 27, 2020 01:30 PM (sOete)
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Sigh. I specifically said RCP AVERAGE and you point to a CNN and a Rasmussen poll.
Posted by: Asshoes
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Did you look at the 2nd link? It has a rundown of polling that would be around 2 weeks from today from NY Times
https://tinyurl.com/y45d78v4
Posted by: Asshoes
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Did you look at the 2nd link? It has a rundown of polling that would be around 2 weeks from today from NY Times
https://tinyurl.com/y45d78v4
Posted by: Blago at September 27, 2020 01:30 PM (gkdnV)
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"Social promotion", when it started, was a radical and skeptically viewed fringe thing (believe Chicago area was first to formalize it). Then - it became the norm, since pretending and shoving bodies out the door is what you do when you don't really care and when the parents don't seem to care (if there's much of a household to speak of) or ......
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (OTzUX)
Social promotion was a response to incentives. Where I live the school district only gets money the first time a student goes through a grade. So everyone passes. Everyone.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (OTzUX)
Social promotion was a response to incentives. Where I live the school district only gets money the first time a student goes through a grade. So everyone passes. Everyone.
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 27, 2020 01:30 PM (wGeit)
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223 I pay Verizon over $7500/year for cell phone, tv and internet access (me, my wife and 3 kids).
I'm looking forward to the day it all goes away and I can use that money towards something more practical, like hookers and cocaine.
Posted by: Open Channel D at September 27, 2020 12:58 PM (gcQt5)
Whoa!
Find someone in the know and check out your options. Pricing and options have changed a lot, even in the last year.
Different geographies have different needs and options. Until about two years ago, you had to have Verizon or ATampersandT if you traveled or lived in Eastern Washington. Sprint and T-Mobile were a joke. Now, T-Mobile has rolled out a lot of new coverage, and their prices are a lot better, too.
And cable TV? Get basic internet access, and buy YouTube TV with 60+ channels that include local news, most every cable station, and live sports, and save about $100 a month.
But every local area is different.
I'm looking forward to the day it all goes away and I can use that money towards something more practical, like hookers and cocaine.
Posted by: Open Channel D at September 27, 2020 12:58 PM (gcQt5)
Whoa!
Find someone in the know and check out your options. Pricing and options have changed a lot, even in the last year.
Different geographies have different needs and options. Until about two years ago, you had to have Verizon or ATampersandT if you traveled or lived in Eastern Washington. Sprint and T-Mobile were a joke. Now, T-Mobile has rolled out a lot of new coverage, and their prices are a lot better, too.
And cable TV? Get basic internet access, and buy YouTube TV with 60+ channels that include local news, most every cable station, and live sports, and save about $100 a month.
But every local area is different.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 01:30 PM (sy5kK)
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Two people have posted that they pay $5000 and $7500 a year for cable/phone/internet.
Y'all need to shop around.
My internet is $500 a year. My cell phone is $1800 a year for the family plan. I have no cable. I pay $750 for Prime/Netflix/HBO.
Seriously, if you're paying $5000 or $7500 for this shit, you're way overpaying.
Y'all need to shop around.
My internet is $500 a year. My cell phone is $1800 a year for the family plan. I have no cable. I pay $750 for Prime/Netflix/HBO.
Seriously, if you're paying $5000 or $7500 for this shit, you're way overpaying.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:31 PM (Bl5GC)
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You can't make a turtle run fast.
***********
Tortoise Wrangling, Part Two - a limerick
We tried t' head 'em off at the pass!
But our horses just ran out of gas
At the end of the day
I never thought I'd say
Those tortoises sure can haul ass!
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Tortoise Wrangling, Part Two - a limerick
We tried t' head 'em off at the pass!
But our horses just ran out of gas
At the end of the day
I never thought I'd say
Those tortoises sure can haul ass!
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:31 PM (Fc5rx)
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Muldoon, maybe I'm blending the two - Morlocks were certainly drone-like, as I recall, but yeah, the Eloi were meek and compliant.
Eloi-Locks. Half of today's "Americans".
Eloi-Locks. Half of today's "Americans".
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:31 PM (OTzUX)
381
This dad working, mom staying home in the "old days" is a bit of a myth, I think.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Bl5GC)
Mom was home with us until my brother was in high high school. She would do local temp gigs. I remember once she was the Mr. Dew lady at the grocery store in the 60's. The local economy took a huge shit on black Sunday and she went to work full time. I was already gone by then.
This dad working, mom staying home in the "old days" is a bit of a myth, I think.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Bl5GC)
Mom was home with us until my brother was in high high school. She would do local temp gigs. I remember once she was the Mr. Dew lady at the grocery store in the 60's. The local economy took a huge shit on black Sunday and she went to work full time. I was already gone by then.
Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2020 01:31 PM (4ZQiP)
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Hume @brithume
This seems pretty close to saying a woman’s place is in the home.
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Vanessa Grigoriadis@vanessagrigor
I guess one of the things I don't understand about Amy Comey Barrett is how a potential Supreme Court justice can also be a loving, present mom to seven kids? Is this like the Kardashians stuffing nannies in the closet and pretending they've drawn their own baths for their kids
This seems pretty close to saying a woman’s place is in the home.
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Vanessa Grigoriadis@vanessagrigor
I guess one of the things I don't understand about Amy Comey Barrett is how a potential Supreme Court justice can also be a loving, present mom to seven kids? Is this like the Kardashians stuffing nannies in the closet and pretending they've drawn their own baths for their kids
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:31 PM (vW9Vw)
383
Has Broken Brain shared his Deep Thoughts on the SCOTUS with us this morning?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (+y/Ru)
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365 Breaking news: NO John durham interim report. No indictments before election - Bartiromo sources.+++
And this will be the same DOJ that investigates the impending, massive vote-by-mail fraud. No problemo.
Posted by: Old Dude at September 27, 2020 01:28 PM (LGXGf)
What? Don't you trust me to do my job in a timely manner, no matter how long it takes. Pelosi will only be in charge for the first year, until I lock up the Trump family.
And this will be the same DOJ that investigates the impending, massive vote-by-mail fraud. No problemo.
Posted by: Old Dude at September 27, 2020 01:28 PM (LGXGf)
What? Don't you trust me to do my job in a timely manner, no matter how long it takes. Pelosi will only be in charge for the first year, until I lock up the Trump family.
Posted by: Bullshit Durham at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (ONvIw)
385
I just saw the slimeball Fauci now saying that asymptomatic people are more contagious that symptomatic people for the wuhu flu. Not only reversing what he said earlier but without f'ing evidence. All political. I would like to punch that guy.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (r+sAi)
386
Yeah my mom never worked once she got married, but her sister did (secretary at a law firm). I think it varied, but there were absolutely stay at home moms who took care of the house and kids.
Its a question of how prevalent it was then. Certainly more so than today.
Its a question of how prevalent it was then. Certainly more so than today.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (KZzsI)
387
Two weeks notice is standard when changing jobs and we ought to give Barrett props and time for stepping up in the first place.
But I share the uneasiness. I don't see it as a slam dunk, given Democrats' history.
It looks like Trump and McConnell are on the same page, even if we aren't.
But I share the uneasiness. I don't see it as a slam dunk, given Democrats' history.
It looks like Trump and McConnell are on the same page, even if we aren't.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (XxJt1)
388
Fauci is asking for it.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (zr5Kq)
389
Utter terror - the school contacting your parents about behavior.
......
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (OTzUX)
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First day of high school Im at lunch with some of my buddies, the lunch lady comes over, takes out a little spiral notebook, a pen from her hair and points it at me. "Mother's name. Number"
And she writes it down. Then points to the guy next tome and so on. She waved that notebook at us for years
......
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:15 PM (OTzUX)
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First day of high school Im at lunch with some of my buddies, the lunch lady comes over, takes out a little spiral notebook, a pen from her hair and points it at me. "Mother's name. Number"
And she writes it down. Then points to the guy next tome and so on. She waved that notebook at us for years
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 27, 2020 01:33 PM (EZebt)
390
Well, I suppose I would feel deprived if I was transported back to 1975, because there would be no AOSHQ and I'd miss you 'rons and 'ettes.
And crap, I'd be wearing polyester again.
OTOH, the music was better then and I didn't panic in 1975 because I didn't have my phone with me at every second. The very thought was ridiculous. Look at how enslaved all of us have become to our damned phones.
And crap, I'd be wearing polyester again.
OTOH, the music was better then and I didn't panic in 1975 because I didn't have my phone with me at every second. The very thought was ridiculous. Look at how enslaved all of us have become to our damned phones.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 27, 2020 01:33 PM (HabA/)
391
This dad working, mom staying home in the "old days" is a bit of a myth, I think.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Bl5GC)
Define old days. For a lot of us who are almost 29, it was more or less the norm. Even when my mother worked, she worked around the family's schedule.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Bl5GC)
Define old days. For a lot of us who are almost 29, it was more or less the norm. Even when my mother worked, she worked around the family's schedule.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2020 01:33 PM (yQpMk)
392
If you took Tom Brady's career and averaged it
he'd still be worth a shit
averaging a moving target is BS
a game for LIARS
he'd still be worth a shit
averaging a moving target is BS
a game for LIARS
Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2020 01:33 PM (O+AcM)
393
Dan Rather took my faith in The Media, stuffed it the the trunk of his Rolls, drove it out to the Pine Barrens and shot it. Just like in the movies.
So, it's been a while.
So, it's been a while.
Posted by: klaftern at September 27, 2020 01:33 PM (RuIsu)
394
Y'all need to shop around.
My internet is $500 a year. My cell phone is $1800 a year for the family plan. I have no cable. I pay $750 for Prime/Netflix/HBO.
Seriously, if you're paying $5000 or $7500 for this shit, you're way overpaying.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:31 PM (Bl5GC)
There must be some pretty big regional variances then. My cell family plan alone is ~$250/month. Hi Speed internet starts around $120/month. Problem is that Spectrum is the only high speed internet provider around here.
My internet is $500 a year. My cell phone is $1800 a year for the family plan. I have no cable. I pay $750 for Prime/Netflix/HBO.
Seriously, if you're paying $5000 or $7500 for this shit, you're way overpaying.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:31 PM (Bl5GC)
There must be some pretty big regional variances then. My cell family plan alone is ~$250/month. Hi Speed internet starts around $120/month. Problem is that Spectrum is the only high speed internet provider around here.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (NWiLs)
395
No indictments before election <<<<<
This is no surprise. There is a fair chance to add "or after the election" to that sentence.
This is no surprise. There is a fair chance to add "or after the election" to that sentence.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (r+sAi)
396
I grew up in a neighborhood where everyone worked. I didn't know any families where the mother stayed home with no employment. Maybe I shouldn't generalize from the particular here, but that was the deal.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (gtNWf)
397
388 Fauci is asking for it.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (zr5Kq)
And he'll get it! President Biden will give him the Medal of Freedom.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (zr5Kq)
And he'll get it! President Biden will give him the Medal of Freedom.
Posted by: Bullshit Durham at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (ONvIw)
398
386 Yeah my mom never worked once she got married, but her sister did (secretary at a law firm). I think it varied, but there were absolutely stay at home moms who took care of the house and kids.
Its a question of how prevalent it was then. Certainly more so than today.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (KZzsI)
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Ironically enough, there are more stay at home moms in my 'hood now as an adult than there were when I was a kid.
Its a question of how prevalent it was then. Certainly more so than today.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (KZzsI)
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Ironically enough, there are more stay at home moms in my 'hood now as an adult than there were when I was a kid.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (Bl5GC)
399
Oldie but goodie
90% of people are sheep. The remaining 10% are either sheep dogs or wolves.
Unfortunately the sheep are so stupid can't tell the fucking difference.
90% of people are sheep. The remaining 10% are either sheep dogs or wolves.
Unfortunately the sheep are so stupid can't tell the fucking difference.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (2DOZq)
400
I guess one of the things I don't understand about Amy Comey Barrett is how a potential Supreme Court justice can also be a loving, present mom to seven kids?
The thing is, while he clearly doesn't believe or care about this because he never once has said anything remotely like this about any other mom, I do. I think anyone at that level of power and status is a pretty lousy parent because of what it takes to get to that level of power and status.
However, there is a key to this which modern people do not grok: the more kids you have, the more helpers you have for younger kids.
The thing is, while he clearly doesn't believe or care about this because he never once has said anything remotely like this about any other mom, I do. I think anyone at that level of power and status is a pretty lousy parent because of what it takes to get to that level of power and status.
However, there is a key to this which modern people do not grok: the more kids you have, the more helpers you have for younger kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (KZzsI)
401
The very fact that Biden stands a good chance of being elected POTUS says it all.
Decadence.
Decadence.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (M/9m0)
402
JWM, thanks.
Yeah, San Gabriel. Haven't been there much, haven't been in a while, but when I did, Little Beijing. Actually took a run at a Chinese woman who lived in that area.
My favorite part was the 1950s, faux Mission or Spanish Colonial-themed mini-malls, with the Chinese characters for signs. Hilarious.
But serious good food, if'n you like all the many types of Chinese (more than most people know exist), which I mostly do.
Yeah, San Gabriel. Haven't been there much, haven't been in a while, but when I did, Little Beijing. Actually took a run at a Chinese woman who lived in that area.
My favorite part was the 1950s, faux Mission or Spanish Colonial-themed mini-malls, with the Chinese characters for signs. Hilarious.
But serious good food, if'n you like all the many types of Chinese (more than most people know exist), which I mostly do.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (OTzUX)
403
People believe myths aplenty about the Wuhan Flu:
1) It didn't come from China
2) It lives for days on surfaces
3) You can catch it again after you've had it before
4) Its more virulent than any previous virus we've dealt with
5) Its the first pandemic
6) People with it walk around with a death cloud around them like pigpen
7) We can prevent others from getting it by isolating ourselves from everyone else
And there's even more than that. People are living in stark raving terror and will not, some CANNOT hear the truth and learn to calm down about it
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (KZzsI)
PJ Watson had a video a couple months back, about what people believe are infection/death rates... I think it was just in Britain, but there may have been American numbers. I don't recall, or maybe Watson just extrapolated them to America.
Whatever the case, if you ask people how many people are infected, and how many die, the numbers are about 10 times too high.
So in Britain at the time, if they had about 30,000 reported deaths, people believed the number was something like 3 million. Which I guess is 100 times higher, but yeah, it was something like that.
1) It didn't come from China
2) It lives for days on surfaces
3) You can catch it again after you've had it before
4) Its more virulent than any previous virus we've dealt with
5) Its the first pandemic
6) People with it walk around with a death cloud around them like pigpen
7) We can prevent others from getting it by isolating ourselves from everyone else
And there's even more than that. People are living in stark raving terror and will not, some CANNOT hear the truth and learn to calm down about it
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (KZzsI)
PJ Watson had a video a couple months back, about what people believe are infection/death rates... I think it was just in Britain, but there may have been American numbers. I don't recall, or maybe Watson just extrapolated them to America.
Whatever the case, if you ask people how many people are infected, and how many die, the numbers are about 10 times too high.
So in Britain at the time, if they had about 30,000 reported deaths, people believed the number was something like 3 million. Which I guess is 100 times higher, but yeah, it was something like that.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:35 PM (hku12)
404
Go ahead and write out just stuff that wasn't around 50 years ago and add it up. That's what the wife is working for.
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The average home price in CA is $713k. The average salary in CA is $64k. It is 12 years of salary for a house.
In 1980 the average house was $74k and the average salary was $17k. - so 5 years.
Bringing women into the work force seems to have driven salaries down in general, which shouldn't be a surprise - increase supply with a relatively steady demand and the price of labor goes down.
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The average home price in CA is $713k. The average salary in CA is $64k. It is 12 years of salary for a house.
In 1980 the average house was $74k and the average salary was $17k. - so 5 years.
Bringing women into the work force seems to have driven salaries down in general, which shouldn't be a surprise - increase supply with a relatively steady demand and the price of labor goes down.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2020 01:36 PM (qlFIA)
405
There must be some pretty big regional variances then. My cell family plan alone is ~$250/month. Hi Speed internet starts around $120/month. Problem is that Spectrum is the only high speed internet provider around here.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (NWiLs)
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Wow. I pay $40/mo for 100 Mbs. And my cell plan is $150 for 4 phones with I think 20GB of data. Whatever it is, we never go over it. Spectrum and Verizon are the providers. There are probably some regional differences but no way 300% price differences.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (NWiLs)
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Wow. I pay $40/mo for 100 Mbs. And my cell plan is $150 for 4 phones with I think 20GB of data. Whatever it is, we never go over it. Spectrum and Verizon are the providers. There are probably some regional differences but no way 300% price differences.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:36 PM (Bl5GC)
406
I think polling based on affiliation from 2016 i.e. number of dems, republicans, Independents has to be significantly off based on the changes in black and hispanic numbers. We know that currently Trump is polling much better with these two demographic groups which in the past have voted overwhelmingly Democrat.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 27, 2020 01:36 PM (sd8p8)
407
This dad working, mom staying home in the "old days" is a bit of a myth, I think.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Bl5GC)
My mother quit her job when my folks married and never worked another minute outside the home.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Bl5GC)
My mother quit her job when my folks married and never worked another minute outside the home.
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 27, 2020 01:36 PM (wGeit)
408
And there's even more than that. People are living in stark raving terror and will not, some CANNOT hear the truth and learn to calm down about it
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (KZzsI)
Yep, even people who should know better. The words "novel virus" are exaggerated well beyond reality
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:20 PM (KZzsI)
Yep, even people who should know better. The words "novel virus" are exaggerated well beyond reality
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 01:36 PM (ONvIw)
409
379 You can't make a turtle run fast.
***********
You missed the clip of the turtle that wriggled its way out of an alligator's jaws.
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You missed the clip of the turtle that wriggled its way out of an alligator's jaws.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (vW9Vw)
410
Don't think Biden stands a good chance - but that he can even be considered makes essentially the same point, Margarita.
And CA won't be 75/25. Not even close. Think it will be much closer to a conventional margin of defeat for Trump.
And CA won't be 75/25. Not even close. Think it will be much closer to a conventional margin of defeat for Trump.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (OTzUX)
411
In about the 7th grade, I got into trouble with some friends for seeing if we could get little butter pats to stick to the cafeteria ceiling. We finally ran out of butter, but didn't have well enough developed criminal minds to move away from the crime scene.
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (MVjcR)
412
>>> 385 I just saw the slimeball Fauci now saying that asymptomatic people are more contagious that symptomatic people for the wuhu flu. Not only reversing what he said earlier but without f'ing evidence. All political. I would like to punch that guy.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (r+sAi)
Isn't that correct though? ...although most of the Karens won't grasp that more contagious means less virulent. The media is shrieking about SO! MANY! CASES!! but how many of these cases get the sniffles, let alone need to go to the hospital?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (r+sAi)
Isn't that correct though? ...although most of the Karens won't grasp that more contagious means less virulent. The media is shrieking about SO! MANY! CASES!! but how many of these cases get the sniffles, let alone need to go to the hospital?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (/kh7m)
413
Whatever the case, if you ask people how many people are infected, and how many die, the numbers are about 10 times too high.
Yeah, its a common myth, that huge numbers have died worldwide and in the US. I think people are conflating "carrying the virus" with "died from it"
Yeah, its a common myth, that huge numbers have died worldwide and in the US. I think people are conflating "carrying the virus" with "died from it"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)
414
Wow. I pay $40/mo for 100 Mbs. And my cell plan is $150 for 4 phones with I think 20GB of data. Whatever it is, we never go over it. Spectrum and Verizon are the providers. There are probably some regional differences but no way 300% price differences.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:36 PM (Bl5GC)
Yoiks.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:36 PM (Bl5GC)
Yoiks.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (NWiLs)
415
The biggest days of early voting are the first and last days.
Anyway, 1st day of early voting:
AZ 10/7
CO N/A
IA 10/5
MI 9/18
MN 9/17
NC 10/5
NM 10/13
NV 10/17
PA N/A
VA 9/18
WI 10/20
Something like 15-20% of all votes are that 1st day.
A nomination fight right now and for the next 3 weeks is perfect for Trump.
Anyway, 1st day of early voting:
AZ 10/7
CO N/A
IA 10/5
MI 9/18
MN 9/17
NC 10/5
NM 10/13
NV 10/17
PA N/A
VA 9/18
WI 10/20
Something like 15-20% of all votes are that 1st day.
A nomination fight right now and for the next 3 weeks is perfect for Trump.
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 27, 2020 01:38 PM (aO8Gd)
416
Why the abrupt change in testing numbers?
Why are we testing asymptomatic individuals?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (Fc5rx)
And the ONLY relevant question:
HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED?
Almost none? OK, then.
Why are working people, defined as people UNDER 69 years old, not allowed to work normally?
Look at the real statistics.
COVID SURVIVAL RATE
0 - 19 99.997%
20 - 49 99.98%
50 - 69 99.5%
70+ 94.6%
source:
Dr Scott Atlas,
White House 9-24-20
Why the abrupt change in testing numbers?
Why are we testing asymptomatic individuals?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:00 PM (Fc5rx)
And the ONLY relevant question:
HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED?
Almost none? OK, then.
Why are working people, defined as people UNDER 69 years old, not allowed to work normally?
Look at the real statistics.
COVID SURVIVAL RATE
0 - 19 99.997%
20 - 49 99.98%
50 - 69 99.5%
70+ 94.6%
source:
Dr Scott Atlas,
White House 9-24-20
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 01:38 PM (sy5kK)
417
But neither "managed" the virus itself in any sense, nor could they.
THAT is the foundation of the false framework from which everything else flows, or at least the most damaging "policies".
Posted by: rhomboid
**********
Quite so.
CO doesn't get much national press and its numbers aren't in the range of NY/NJ or the more populous states, but Polis sits in Denver and cites the epidemiological models as "evidence" that his mandate, gathering and bar/restaurant policies are bending the curve, "controlling the spread". To the point that when CO posted its public access slide bar "watch-the-curve-change" interactive modeling graphs on-line Polis said, "Now the public can see the science that I see!" (paraphrasing)
The dang website was outlandishly cartoonish in its absurdity.
THAT is the foundation of the false framework from which everything else flows, or at least the most damaging "policies".
Posted by: rhomboid
**********
Quite so.
CO doesn't get much national press and its numbers aren't in the range of NY/NJ or the more populous states, but Polis sits in Denver and cites the epidemiological models as "evidence" that his mandate, gathering and bar/restaurant policies are bending the curve, "controlling the spread". To the point that when CO posted its public access slide bar "watch-the-curve-change" interactive modeling graphs on-line Polis said, "Now the public can see the science that I see!" (paraphrasing)
The dang website was outlandishly cartoonish in its absurdity.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:38 PM (Fc5rx)
418
Two weeks notice is standard when changing jobs and we ought to give Barrett props and time for stepping up in the first place.
But I share the uneasiness. I don't see it as a slam dunk, given Democrats' history.
It looks like Trump and McConnell are on the same page, even if we aren't.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (XxJt1)
I'm more optimistic than I was a week ago, but I still don't trust wankers like Miss Lindsay. Let alone Pierre Delecto and Cocaine Lisa and the Maine Coon.
But I share the uneasiness. I don't see it as a slam dunk, given Democrats' history.
It looks like Trump and McConnell are on the same page, even if we aren't.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (XxJt1)
I'm more optimistic than I was a week ago, but I still don't trust wankers like Miss Lindsay. Let alone Pierre Delecto and Cocaine Lisa and the Maine Coon.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:39 PM (hku12)
419
dunno if Fauci is gonna be Cuneo, Barzini or Tattaglia
but after the election, he's gonna be one of them
but after the election, he's gonna be one of them
Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (O+AcM)
420
ACB confirmed after election, same-same as before - in terms of getting her on the court.
No reason she wouldn't be. Even if AZ goes wrong way. Should not change the numbers enough.
No reason she wouldn't be. Even if AZ goes wrong way. Should not change the numbers enough.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (OTzUX)
421
However, there is a key to this which modern people do not grok: the more kids you have, the more helpers you have for younger kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (KZzsI)
And it sounds like she has a good husband. Wasn't Palin mother of five, Governor and her husband was a fisherman? It can be done. Especially if you believe in the Lord.
However, there is a key to this which modern people do not grok: the more kids you have, the more helpers you have for younger kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:34 PM (KZzsI)
And it sounds like she has a good husband. Wasn't Palin mother of five, Governor and her husband was a fisherman? It can be done. Especially if you believe in the Lord.
Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (4ZQiP)
422
Fauci is a politician first, a businessman second and a doctor third.
I was just overwhelmed by the thought of all the marbles on the table in November. If Trump wins he's going to go through the Deep State like Sherman through Atlanta. Fauci's gone, half the DOJ is sacked and the little fiefdoms get moved to East Jesus.
If he doesn't...well, it was nice knowing you.
I was just overwhelmed by the thought of all the marbles on the table in November. If Trump wins he's going to go through the Deep State like Sherman through Atlanta. Fauci's gone, half the DOJ is sacked and the little fiefdoms get moved to East Jesus.
If he doesn't...well, it was nice knowing you.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (XxJt1)
423
The flaw in the idea of transporting someone from 2020 back to 1975 is that the person of today would know about cell phones and internet access. So they would miss those things and be completely miserable.
But in 1975, the things that we now know that sucked were just regular life. Everyone was thinner. Many smoked of course. Few were jaded about sex.
But far fewer were confused about their sexuality and didn't parade it around anyway.
You could also probably get a job real fast if you needed cash, and a cheap place to stay--an apartment over a store for example---and you could do both of these things without filling out lots of paperwork or being subject to a background check. Or a credit check--you would be paying cash.
It was simpler sitting around listening to LPs, reading paperbacks and smoking Marlboros (55 cents a pack0 like they were going out of style.
But in 1975, the things that we now know that sucked were just regular life. Everyone was thinner. Many smoked of course. Few were jaded about sex.
But far fewer were confused about their sexuality and didn't parade it around anyway.
You could also probably get a job real fast if you needed cash, and a cheap place to stay--an apartment over a store for example---and you could do both of these things without filling out lots of paperwork or being subject to a background check. Or a credit check--you would be paying cash.
It was simpler sitting around listening to LPs, reading paperbacks and smoking Marlboros (55 cents a pack0 like they were going out of style.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (HrMC1)
424
This dad working, mom staying home in the "old days" is a bit of a myth, I think.
***
My mom was home when I was very young. She started working part time jobs as I and my siblings got older, and finally got a full time job about the time I was a teenager.
This was the norm for all the kids around me too
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My mom was home when I was very young. She started working part time jobs as I and my siblings got older, and finally got a full time job about the time I was a teenager.
This was the norm for all the kids around me too
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (qlFIA)
425
One of the big myths is that Cuomo did a super fabulous wonderful job handling the Wuhan Flu (that Trump should have followed) when he had one of the worst godawful death rates in the nation.
Now, I think more than half of those deaths are false, mythological, and deliberate, hateful lies, but even with that, NY had a huge number of deaths compared to the rest of the country.
And that's putting aside the crap he did like murder grandparents and hide away ventilators while demanding the federal government buy him tens of thousands.
How on earth anyone sane can hold him up as a paragon is inconceivable to me.
Now, I think more than half of those deaths are false, mythological, and deliberate, hateful lies, but even with that, NY had a huge number of deaths compared to the rest of the country.
And that's putting aside the crap he did like murder grandparents and hide away ventilators while demanding the federal government buy him tens of thousands.
How on earth anyone sane can hold him up as a paragon is inconceivable to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (KZzsI)
426
420 ACB confirmed after election, same-same as before - in terms of getting her on the court.
No reason she wouldn't be. Even if AZ goes wrong way. Should not change the numbers enough.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (OTzUX)
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The risk though is if Dems have a good election, enough RINOs decide the people have spoken and won't vote for her. Just get the fucking vote done as far as possible, Every day of delay increases the risk she doesn't get in.
No reason she wouldn't be. Even if AZ goes wrong way. Should not change the numbers enough.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (OTzUX)
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The risk though is if Dems have a good election, enough RINOs decide the people have spoken and won't vote for her. Just get the fucking vote done as far as possible, Every day of delay increases the risk she doesn't get in.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (Bl5GC)
427
Whatever the case, if you ask people how many people are infected, and how many die, the numbers are about 10 times too high.
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Yeah, its a common myth, that huge numbers have died worldwide and in the US. I think people are conflating "carrying the virus" with "died from it"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)
I think it's simpler than that. People are stupid, and they have no concept of reality.
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Yeah, its a common myth, that huge numbers have died worldwide and in the US. I think people are conflating "carrying the virus" with "died from it"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)
I think it's simpler than that. People are stupid, and they have no concept of reality.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
428
>>>Bringing women into the work force seems to have driven salaries down in general, which shouldn't be a surprise - increase supply with a relatively steady demand and the price of labor goes down.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2020 01:36 PM (qlFIA)
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Another communist wedge used to disperse the family unit.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 27, 2020 01:36 PM (qlFIA)
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Another communist wedge used to disperse the family unit.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (vW9Vw)
429
lovely friendly interview at notre dame of ACB
around 25min mark she talks about the adoptions
https://youtu.be/0HMAHnT-y7c
around 25min mark she talks about the adoptions
https://youtu.be/0HMAHnT-y7c
Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (nUhF0)
430
I think it's simpler than that. People are stupid, and they have no concept of reality should be beaten with a tire iron.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
FTFY
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
FTFY
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:42 PM (NWiLs)
431
Tatiana Turner, 40,
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I see that there is a B or C actress by that name from Canada but living in LA. I don't know if it were her and I can't find a DOB on her to see if she's 40 (but she looks it).
Meanwhile, the enemedia . . .
"Based on the information provided thus far, the victims of this accident . . ."
https://bit.ly/34112Tq
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I see that there is a B or C actress by that name from Canada but living in LA. I don't know if it were her and I can't find a DOB on her to see if she's 40 (but she looks it).
Meanwhile, the enemedia . . .
"Based on the information provided thus far, the victims of this accident . . ."
https://bit.ly/34112Tq
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 01:42 PM (+y/Ru)
432
>>> 427 Whatever the case, if you ask people how many people are infected, and how many die, the numbers are about 10 times too high.
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Yeah, its a common myth, that huge numbers have died worldwide and in the US. I think people are conflating "carrying the virus" with "died from it"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)
I think it's simpler than that. People are stupid, andthey have no concept of reality. need to be beaten with tire irons.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
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Yeah, its a common myth, that huge numbers have died worldwide and in the US. I think people are conflating "carrying the virus" with "died from it"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)
I think it's simpler than that. People are stupid, and
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:42 PM (/kh7m)
433
If the GOP fails to confirm ACB before the election
the GOP and Trump will get wiped out
and deservedly so
the GOP and Trump will get wiped out
and deservedly so
Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (O+AcM)
434
One of the big myths is that Cuomo did a super fabulous wonderful job handling the Wuhan Flu (that Trump should have followed) when he had one of the worst godawful death rates in the nation.
Now, I think more than half of those deaths are false, mythological, and deliberate, hateful lies, but even with that, NY had a huge number of deaths compared to the rest of the country.
...
How on earth anyone sane can hold him up as a paragon is inconceivable to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (KZzsI)
Yes, but no one is buying the Cuomo as hero meme except the people pushing it--the media.
Now, I think more than half of those deaths are false, mythological, and deliberate, hateful lies, but even with that, NY had a huge number of deaths compared to the rest of the country.
...
How on earth anyone sane can hold him up as a paragon is inconceivable to me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (KZzsI)
Yes, but no one is buying the Cuomo as hero meme except the people pushing it--the media.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (HrMC1)
435
People are stupid, and they have no concept of reality.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
*looks for tire iron*
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
*looks for tire iron*
Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (nUhF0)
436
>>>And CA won't be 75/25. Not even close. Think it will be much closer to a conventional margin of defeat for Trump.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (OTzUX)
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It blows my mind Californians haven't learned their lesson. Wildfires destroying whole towns and killing people are obviously testament to lousy resource management. Bankrupt utilities. Brown-outs. Crime. Degraded urban centers spreading now to the burbs....
What more do the Democrats have to do to convince a rational person to try a different approach?
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (OTzUX)
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It blows my mind Californians haven't learned their lesson. Wildfires destroying whole towns and killing people are obviously testament to lousy resource management. Bankrupt utilities. Brown-outs. Crime. Degraded urban centers spreading now to the burbs....
What more do the Democrats have to do to convince a rational person to try a different approach?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (gtNWf)
437
I think it's simpler than that. People are stupid, and they have no concept of reality. need to be beaten with tire irons.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:42 PM (/kh7m)
Have I told you lately that I love you?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:42 PM (/kh7m)
Have I told you lately that I love you?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (NWiLs)
438
If all the data on Covid is a lie, none of it can be used to derive the truth.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:24 PM (vW9Vw)
I found a detailed source for "COVID related deaths" in my county.
Age of those that dies in the last two day (with COVID)
- 88, 77, 73, 95
- 84, 93, 93, 79
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:24 PM (vW9Vw)
I found a detailed source for "COVID related deaths" in my county.
Age of those that dies in the last two day (with COVID)
- 88, 77, 73, 95
- 84, 93, 93, 79
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (/Dgcm)
439
The dang website was outlandishly cartoonish in its absurdity.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:38 PM (Fc5rx)
I despise that faggot with the heat of a thousand suns.
The dang website was outlandishly cartoonish in its absurdity.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 27, 2020 01:38 PM (Fc5rx)
I despise that faggot with the heat of a thousand suns.
Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (4ZQiP)
440
Fauci is a politician first, a businessman second and a doctor third.
I was just overwhelmed by the thought of all the marbles on the table in November. If Trump wins he's going to go through the Deep State like Sherman through Atlanta. Fauci's gone, half the DOJ is sacked and the little fiefdoms get moved to East Jesus.
If he doesn't...well, it was nice knowing you.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (XxJt1)
Ok, this is where I'm going to be pedantic.
Sherman took Atlanta BEFORE the election, and indeed probably won the election for Lincoln by doing so.
He then went through South Carolina like a hot knife through butter, after the election.
Lots of folks in those parts are still pissed about it.
I was just overwhelmed by the thought of all the marbles on the table in November. If Trump wins he's going to go through the Deep State like Sherman through Atlanta. Fauci's gone, half the DOJ is sacked and the little fiefdoms get moved to East Jesus.
If he doesn't...well, it was nice knowing you.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 01:40 PM (XxJt1)
Ok, this is where I'm going to be pedantic.
Sherman took Atlanta BEFORE the election, and indeed probably won the election for Lincoln by doing so.
He then went through South Carolina like a hot knife through butter, after the election.
Lots of folks in those parts are still pissed about it.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (hku12)
441
The Horde Mind is an awesome thing.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (/kh7m)
442
Another communist wedge used to disperse the family unit.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (vW9Vw)
yup.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (vW9Vw)
yup.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:44 PM (HrMC1)
443
This exposes the limitations of economics as a science to describe societies. Where is the measure of the feeling among many Americans that we are no longer judged equally by our justice system? Where is the graph showing the shift from manufacturing to service jobs, and the decrease in stability of the typical American family. And most of all, show me the pie chart that describes the withering away of patriotism and pride in country, replaced by a globalist perspective that we are all just one big (not so) happy world family.
Exactly. There is more to life than money. Let's roll it back to 1975. How much easier was it for a family to live off one income?
Could you send your child outside to play?
If you decided you wanted to go to college, were you able to work at a minimum wage job during the summer and then maybe 10 hours a week during the semester and play as you went?
Was everything better? Of course not. Setting aside societal issues, with the medical technology of the time, my 82 year old father with Parkinson's would be dead, not out golfing two to three times per week. There are, needless to say, tradeoffs.
Hell, I wouldn't know you miscreants with the internet.
But quality of life *matters*. If it didn't, NYC wouldn't be emptying out as fast as people can move out. See also California.
Exactly. There is more to life than money. Let's roll it back to 1975. How much easier was it for a family to live off one income?
Could you send your child outside to play?
If you decided you wanted to go to college, were you able to work at a minimum wage job during the summer and then maybe 10 hours a week during the semester and play as you went?
Was everything better? Of course not. Setting aside societal issues, with the medical technology of the time, my 82 year old father with Parkinson's would be dead, not out golfing two to three times per week. There are, needless to say, tradeoffs.
Hell, I wouldn't know you miscreants with the internet.
But quality of life *matters*. If it didn't, NYC wouldn't be emptying out as fast as people can move out. See also California.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at September 27, 2020 01:44 PM (GbPPJ)
444
This dad working, mom staying home in the "old days" is a bit of a myth, I think.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Bl5GC)
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Um, no. It was typical of the middle-class.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Bl5GC)
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Um, no. It was typical of the middle-class.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 01:44 PM (M/9m0)
445
Gives me a sense of joy and achievement that I've added something to the Horde lexicon.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:44 PM (NWiLs)
446
Isn't that correct though? ...although most of the Karens won't grasp that more contagious means less virulent. The media is shrieking about SO! MANY! CASES!! but how many of these cases get the sniffles, let alone need to go to the hospital?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (/kh7m)
Just about all the St. Louis Cardinals tested positive for Wuhan flu at the beginning of baseball season and were forced to quarantine at their hotel in Milwaukee for over a week.
Did any of those players die or have to be hospitalized? No. Did anybody seriously expect healthy young men to die or be hospitalized? I don't think they even got sick. There were reports they spent their time playing catch in the parking lot across from the hotel.
But it was reported as "OMG!!! All the Cards have covid!!!!"
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (/kh7m)
Just about all the St. Louis Cardinals tested positive for Wuhan flu at the beginning of baseball season and were forced to quarantine at their hotel in Milwaukee for over a week.
Did any of those players die or have to be hospitalized? No. Did anybody seriously expect healthy young men to die or be hospitalized? I don't think they even got sick. There were reports they spent their time playing catch in the parking lot across from the hotel.
But it was reported as "OMG!!! All the Cards have covid!!!!"
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 27, 2020 01:44 PM (HabA/)
447
>>> 437 I think it's simpler than that. People are stupid, and they have no concept of reality. need to be beaten with tire irons.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:42 PM (/kh7m)
Have I told you lately that I love you?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (NWiLs)
LOL
What shooty things are you bringing to TX??
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:42 PM (/kh7m)
Have I told you lately that I love you?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (NWiLs)
LOL
What shooty things are you bringing to TX??
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:45 PM (/kh7m)
448
My sister and her husband make about $300K a year combined. And they spend $300K a year combined. My sister could easily not work if she chose to, but then they'd have to give up the $80K SUV and the lake house and the everything organic and everything GMO free stuff they eat and actually have to - GHASP - cook their own meals.
So I kind of roll my eyes when I hear stuff like "women have to work today but didn't in the 50s". They don't HAVE TO, they CHOOSE TO in order to live a certain lifestyle.
So I kind of roll my eyes when I hear stuff like "women have to work today but didn't in the 50s". They don't HAVE TO, they CHOOSE TO in order to live a certain lifestyle.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:45 PM (Bl5GC)
449
Yes, but no one is buying the Cuomo as hero meme except the people pushing it--the media.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (HrMC1)
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I have Dem friends who think Murphy has done an exemplary job. I guess he has, except, of course, for the nearly highest death rate per capita in the universe and a top three unemployment rate.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (HrMC1)
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I have Dem friends who think Murphy has done an exemplary job. I guess he has, except, of course, for the nearly highest death rate per capita in the universe and a top three unemployment rate.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:45 PM (gtNWf)
450
Huh, digging into how they justify the biden lead.
Biggest factor is, they're showing only 10% undecided vs. 20% in 2016.
I just can't figure how they justify discounting enthusiasm.
I mean, are we seriously supposed to believe Biden is up near 10 points in WI and MN?
Biggest factor is, they're showing only 10% undecided vs. 20% in 2016.
I just can't figure how they justify discounting enthusiasm.
I mean, are we seriously supposed to believe Biden is up near 10 points in WI and MN?
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 27, 2020 01:46 PM (aO8Gd)
451
295 "the note on the table said Bye Bye John
you know there's 57 channels and nothing on"
Before cable TV, Pink Floyd said it the best.
"Thirteen channels of shit on the TV, to choose from."
you know there's 57 channels and nothing on"
Before cable TV, Pink Floyd said it the best.
"Thirteen channels of shit on the TV, to choose from."
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 01:46 PM (sy5kK)
452
What shooty things are you bringing to TX??
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:45 PM (/kh7m)
Just myself. I'm flying in and I trust those TSA and baggage handler bastards about as far as I can throw them.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 27, 2020 01:45 PM (/kh7m)
Just myself. I'm flying in and I trust those TSA and baggage handler bastards about as far as I can throw them.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:46 PM (NWiLs)
453
Last week 2 doctors running a vet retirement home ( Massachusetts maybe?) Mixing Covid-19 patients and non affected patients. Heard it on radio news once only, in the 20s died if I remember.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 01:46 PM (OjZpE)
454
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1310252310552104962
I'm sorry, what now?
(For you smart people who don't twat, Joe Montana and his wife had to wrestle their grandchild away from a home invader.)
I'm sorry, what now?
(For you smart people who don't twat, Joe Montana and his wife had to wrestle their grandchild away from a home invader.)
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at September 27, 2020 01:46 PM (GbPPJ)
Posted by: REDACTED at September 27, 2020 01:46 PM (O+AcM)
456
To say that economic theory doesn't capture those degraded elements you discuss is, in my mind, incorrect. Rather, the point made by Cafe Hayek is that on any number of measurable levels we are far better off today than in 1975. It does not say that we are better off in all respects. The units of utility that you mention - patriotism, structural family, stability in communities - are not independent of the jobs/products/services measures being highlighted by the Hayek comment, but they are also not that tightly correlated. In other words, you *could* have the improvements we enjoy today *without* the degradations. Potentially at least.
But the Left doesn't even pine for the better aspects of the past, which is what is so amazing and frightening about their adherents. They pine for the worst of the past in all respects, and somehow define that as progress.
But the Left doesn't even pine for the better aspects of the past, which is what is so amazing and frightening about their adherents. They pine for the worst of the past in all respects, and somehow define that as progress.
Posted by: BetaPhi at September 27, 2020 01:47 PM (hGNrS)
457
340 -- Nope. It was the peanut farmer in the early '70s. Right up until inflation went ballistic, it was possible for a man to support his wife, his kids, own a home, own a car, take an annual vacation, and still put away a few bucks each pay day. The XO and I married in 1970. For the first few years, he threw a massive fit if I spent more than $15 a week for groceries. Then, one day, that same $15 only filled one bag. That's when massive numbers of women went out of the home to work for cold, hard cash. There was a lot of griping at the time about greedy, materialistic families where the mother worked to pay for a second car, a more luxurious home, and all sorts of other unnecessary doodads. But that was not the case with most of the women I knew who went back to work. That second income merely kept the family afloat.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at September 27, 2020 01:47 PM (yHHWj)
458
Muldoon, yes - CO, not satisfied to immolate itself on the idiotic IMHE or British "models" (just made up gibberish, really, as is any "model" that's not based on solid knowledge and relationships), has its own!
Every time Trump idiotically boasts about "saving 2 million lives" (does he still do that?), it's the "models" he's talking about. Absurd.
The British one was apparently garbage, even internally, even technically - forget the real-world aspect. So of course is was a random number generator (like "climate change" "models" - and for the same reason).
Besides which, "cases" are of no operational public health significance when 1) 95%+ in ages
Medieval society, with 21st century technologies and frills.
Every time Trump idiotically boasts about "saving 2 million lives" (does he still do that?), it's the "models" he's talking about. Absurd.
The British one was apparently garbage, even internally, even technically - forget the real-world aspect. So of course is was a random number generator (like "climate change" "models" - and for the same reason).
Besides which, "cases" are of no operational public health significance when 1) 95%+ in ages
Medieval society, with 21st century technologies and frills.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:47 PM (OTzUX)
459
On Topic... Sort Of...
In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
Countless little incremental improvements but not one major innovation that I can think of.
I would say that LCDs are the biggest new thing in the last fifty years... but I could live without it. And LEDs for home lighting? But for somebody outlawing incandescent light bulbs it would not exist.
In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
Countless little incremental improvements but not one major innovation that I can think of.
I would say that LCDs are the biggest new thing in the last fifty years... but I could live without it. And LEDs for home lighting? But for somebody outlawing incandescent light bulbs it would not exist.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 01:48 PM (/Dgcm)
460
I have Dem friends who think Murphy has done an exemplary job. I guess he has, except, of course, for the nearly highest death rate per capita in the universe and a top three unemployment rate.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:45 PM (gtNWf)
I'm in NJ too, and you are right---DEMOCRATS think Murphy has done a great job. But there's no pushback.
The state GOP is weak and most of the newspapers are USAToday--owned and there is absolutely no criticism of Murphy and his gang. It's all Trump and the GOP are BAD and Democrats are AWESOME.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:45 PM (gtNWf)
I'm in NJ too, and you are right---DEMOCRATS think Murphy has done a great job. But there's no pushback.
The state GOP is weak and most of the newspapers are USAToday--owned and there is absolutely no criticism of Murphy and his gang. It's all Trump and the GOP are BAD and Democrats are AWESOME.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:48 PM (HrMC1)
461
Some states
1950 the total US workforce was 62M, broken down 44/18 Men/Women
In 2000 it was 140M broken down 75/65 M/W
So yeah definitely more women working in the 2000s than in the 1950s, but it's not like NO women worked in the 1950s either and plenty of women stayed home in the 2000s as well.
1950 the total US workforce was 62M, broken down 44/18 Men/Women
In 2000 it was 140M broken down 75/65 M/W
So yeah definitely more women working in the 2000s than in the 1950s, but it's not like NO women worked in the 1950s either and plenty of women stayed home in the 2000s as well.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:49 PM (Bl5GC)
462
Ok, yeah, it would have taken a little longer out there. I grew up around the highway 9 that bruce springsteen ( douche leafspring) sung about in born to run, and that area had clubs like New Orleans has bars.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (9Om/r)
*Waves*
I grew up in manalapan!
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 27, 2020 12:53 PM (9Om/r)
*Waves*
I grew up in manalapan!
Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne at September 27, 2020 01:49 PM (xU7mE)
463
448 My sister and her husband make about $300K a year combined. And they spend $300K a year combined. My sister could easily not work if she chose to, but then they'd have to give up the $80K SUV and the lake house and the everything organic and everything GMO free stuff they eat and actually have to - GHASP - cook their own meals.
So I kind of roll my eyes when I hear stuff like "women have to work today but didn't in the 50s". They don't HAVE TO, they CHOOSE TO in order to live a certain lifestyle.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:45 PM (Bl5GC)
I have more or less the same spending habits now as I did when I was broke AF, which is allowing me to aggressively reduce my debts, even though it's been only a few months. I can't imagine sending everything I made and then some. On the other hand my ex acted as though that was her purpose in life.
So I kind of roll my eyes when I hear stuff like "women have to work today but didn't in the 50s". They don't HAVE TO, they CHOOSE TO in order to live a certain lifestyle.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:45 PM (Bl5GC)
I have more or less the same spending habits now as I did when I was broke AF, which is allowing me to aggressively reduce my debts, even though it's been only a few months. I can't imagine sending everything I made and then some. On the other hand my ex acted as though that was her purpose in life.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:49 PM (NWiLs)
464
Yeah, its a common myth, that huge numbers have died worldwide and in the US.
Doing our best, sir!
Doing our best, sir!
Posted by: The MFM at September 27, 2020 01:49 PM (2nFxy)
465
Yeah, its a common myth, that huge numbers have died worldwide and in the US. I think people are conflating "carrying the virus" with "died from it"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)
And our own government did this.
What you need to look at is average death statistics.
What you find is that in a normal year, deaths are down just before flu season, then up. There is a 'pool' of very sick people, from other causes, that flu puts over the edge.
This is normal. Happens every year.
With Covid, the months just before it hit, the 'normal' death rate was actually lower than other years in the Western World. So when Covid hit? There were more already weakened people, for it to affect.
The comorbidity rate is horrible, but very very few people just died of Covid. Which is why there is such a startling change in stats between the Young, and the Old.
But they count ANYONE who tests positive for Covid, as a Covid death, even if they had no symptoms of Covid, at all.
Anecdotal reports like a guy in a Motorcycle wreck, being placed on the Covid death list.
Which makes the data meaningless in any scientific way.
But makes it Politically dynamite. This is Michael Crichton's State of Fear, just using the flu, instead of Global Warming.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)
And our own government did this.
What you need to look at is average death statistics.
What you find is that in a normal year, deaths are down just before flu season, then up. There is a 'pool' of very sick people, from other causes, that flu puts over the edge.
This is normal. Happens every year.
With Covid, the months just before it hit, the 'normal' death rate was actually lower than other years in the Western World. So when Covid hit? There were more already weakened people, for it to affect.
The comorbidity rate is horrible, but very very few people just died of Covid. Which is why there is such a startling change in stats between the Young, and the Old.
But they count ANYONE who tests positive for Covid, as a Covid death, even if they had no symptoms of Covid, at all.
Anecdotal reports like a guy in a Motorcycle wreck, being placed on the Covid death list.
Which makes the data meaningless in any scientific way.
But makes it Politically dynamite. This is Michael Crichton's State of Fear, just using the flu, instead of Global Warming.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 27, 2020 01:49 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:50 PM (NWiLs)
467
In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
think again. too numerous to mention. every single field. computing is the single most important in my opinion, that allowed numerous others to take off
think again. too numerous to mention. every single field. computing is the single most important in my opinion, that allowed numerous others to take off
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:50 PM (zr5Kq)
468
In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
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What about me??? If you couldn't get it up in the "free love" '70's , you were out of LUCK.
In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
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What about me??? If you couldn't get it up in the "free love" '70's , you were out of LUCK.
Posted by: V I A G R A at September 27, 2020 01:50 PM (HrMC1)
469
I think Fauci just had a press release that leeches can possibly cure Covid.
In other news Fauci has admitted to a 60% share in the world's largest leech farm.
In other news Fauci has admitted to a 60% share in the world's largest leech farm.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 27, 2020 01:50 PM (2DOZq)
470
449In laws in NY, think Cuomo is perfect
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 01:51 PM (ONvIw)
471
440 Fauci is a politician first, a businessman second and a doctor third.
I pray for him every night.
That God will deal with him justly.
I pray for him every night.
That God will deal with him justly.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 27, 2020 01:51 PM (vW9Vw)
472
Carter was horrible. Killing the economy, gas lines, inflation, WEAR SWEATERS, I can't believe he's still sucking air. I notice his solar panels are no longer on the WH.
Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2020 01:52 PM (4ZQiP)
473
NY and NJ have the highest death per 1M numbers, around 1800 for both. The #3 is MA at 1300. TX is 550 and FL is 650.
And yet the media gaslights on a daily basis, talking about a Covid surge in TX and FL while praising Cuomo.
And yet the media gaslights on a daily basis, talking about a Covid surge in TX and FL while praising Cuomo.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:53 PM (Bl5GC)
474
I just saw the slimeball Fauci now saying that asymptomatic people are more contagious that symptomatic people for the wuhu flu.
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I saw an article saying that English speakers are more contagious because of all our "P"s and "B"s.
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I saw an article saying that English speakers are more contagious because of all our "P"s and "B"s.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 01:53 PM (+y/Ru)
475
444 This dad working, mom staying home in the "old days" is a bit of a myth, I think.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Bl5GC)
My mom was a stay-at-home mom, and so were her friends. And these were blue collar people, not professionals.
But we had only 1 family car - my dad went to work with a neighbor in the morning and my mom picked him up after work every day. We had one bathroom for 6 people. I shared a bedroom with my sister and my brothers also shared a bedroom. Vacations consisted of annual trips to northern Wisconsin, where we rented a cabin and fished and water skied.
Yeah, that would seem like "deprivation" to a lot of people now. But my dad was able to pay the tuition for 4 kids to attend pretty good Catholic schools from 2nd grade through hs. My college student loan payments were $130 a month for 10 years (and at times it was hard to make those payments but I managed).
I have heard people say they have 1 or 2 kids and couldn't afford to have another one because they can't afford a house with another bedroom. Apparently, it's deprivation for kids to share bedrooms these days.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:26 PM (Bl5GC)
My mom was a stay-at-home mom, and so were her friends. And these were blue collar people, not professionals.
But we had only 1 family car - my dad went to work with a neighbor in the morning and my mom picked him up after work every day. We had one bathroom for 6 people. I shared a bedroom with my sister and my brothers also shared a bedroom. Vacations consisted of annual trips to northern Wisconsin, where we rented a cabin and fished and water skied.
Yeah, that would seem like "deprivation" to a lot of people now. But my dad was able to pay the tuition for 4 kids to attend pretty good Catholic schools from 2nd grade through hs. My college student loan payments were $130 a month for 10 years (and at times it was hard to make those payments but I managed).
I have heard people say they have 1 or 2 kids and couldn't afford to have another one because they can't afford a house with another bedroom. Apparently, it's deprivation for kids to share bedrooms these days.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 27, 2020 01:55 PM (HabA/)
476
Fauci is a suck-up too, and a lot of what he's doing now is to cover up the fact that he was DEAD wrong about Covid in LATE FEBRUARY when he said we "had nothing to worry about.'
So he's been going overboard in the other direction since. He was wrong at the start and he's wrong now.
So he's been going overboard in the other direction since. He was wrong at the start and he's wrong now.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:55 PM (HrMC1)
477
Heard Fauci hasn't had a patient in over 50 years, he is a bureaucrat more than anything else.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 01:55 PM (OjZpE)
478
Hmm, shoulda been
"Besides which, "cases" are of no operational public health significance when 1) 95%+ in ages <50 are asymptomatic or mildly so 2) the test being used is so inappropriate to the task, esp. when cranked to more than 30 cycles 3) "cases" don't have any real meaning in dealing with an actual public health problem, which is defined as mortality, hospitalization, etc. - real things, not dry stats."
"Besides which, "cases" are of no operational public health significance when 1) 95%+ in ages <50 are asymptomatic or mildly so 2) the test being used is so inappropriate to the task, esp. when cranked to more than 30 cycles 3) "cases" don't have any real meaning in dealing with an actual public health problem, which is defined as mortality, hospitalization, etc. - real things, not dry stats."
Posted by: rhomboid at September 27, 2020 01:55 PM (OTzUX)
479
US population
216 million (1975)
331 million (2020)
That has an effect on our sense of who we are.
216 million (1975)
331 million (2020)
That has an effect on our sense of who we are.
Posted by: m at September 27, 2020 01:56 PM (qo4Jk)
480
I have more or less the same spending habits now as I did when I was broke AF, which is allowing me to aggressively reduce my debts, even though it's been only a few months. I can't imagine sending everything I made and then some. On the other hand my ex acted as though that was her purpose in life.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:49 PM (NWiLs)
LOL, there were a few years while working in Denver, where my salary skyrocketed. Things were going really really well for the new company.
Well, I already had my house, and Car, and kids were doing well, so my lifestyle didn't change.
My business compatriots and their wives were all confused that I didn't buy a new house, and a new car, and fancier clothes. They all stopped coming over to my place, LIKE THEY HAD BEFORE, because I guess they thought they were slumming.
But then, things crashed. Company went under. They all LOST their nice stuff, while I was still living in the same place, with the same lifestyle I'd had all along.
Success can test you, just as failure does.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:49 PM (NWiLs)
LOL, there were a few years while working in Denver, where my salary skyrocketed. Things were going really really well for the new company.
Well, I already had my house, and Car, and kids were doing well, so my lifestyle didn't change.
My business compatriots and their wives were all confused that I didn't buy a new house, and a new car, and fancier clothes. They all stopped coming over to my place, LIKE THEY HAD BEFORE, because I guess they thought they were slumming.
But then, things crashed. Company went under. They all LOST their nice stuff, while I was still living in the same place, with the same lifestyle I'd had all along.
Success can test you, just as failure does.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 27, 2020 01:56 PM (NgKpN)
481
I just saw the slimeball Fauci now saying that asymptomatic people are more contagious that symptomatic people for the wuhu flu. Not only reversing what he said earlier but without f'ing evidence. All political. I would like to punch that guy.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (r+sAi)
Just remember that Fauci is the guy that said that the only way an otherwise monogamous couple could be sure to avoid AIDS was weekly all nighters of depraved sodomy at the local bath house.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (r+sAi)
Just remember that Fauci is the guy that said that the only way an otherwise monogamous couple could be sure to avoid AIDS was weekly all nighters of depraved sodomy at the local bath house.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 01:56 PM (/Dgcm)
482
474 I just saw the slimeball Fauci now saying that asymptomatic people are more contagious that symptomatic people for the wuhu flu.
We have just done a study and found that voting booths make you 1000x more contagious and the virus thrives on the curtain!!!!!!!
We have just done a study and found that voting booths make you 1000x more contagious and the virus thrives on the curtain!!!!!!!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 27, 2020 01:56 PM (dNzKv)
483
I just saw the slimeball Fauci now saying that asymptomatic people are more contagious that symptomatic people for the wuhu flu.
That's a total lie.
That's a total lie.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:57 PM (HrMC1)
484
More expenses today that you didn't have 50 years ago: all those websites you are signed up to and pay for. All the crap you buy on Amazon that you would have had to go to the store to find and probably would not have. Most of the food you have delivered to your house. Most food was still being made scratch in most households and people didn't go out to eat much unless they were pretty affluent.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:57 PM (KZzsI)
485
Man, it's hard to get a tinyurl in edgewise here during the day!
Gird your loins.
Revolution 2020
https://tinyurl.com/y22ayakr
Gird your loins.
Revolution 2020
https://tinyurl.com/y22ayakr
Posted by: Gaelic Girl at September 27, 2020 01:57 PM (5FCda)
486
In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
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think again. too numerous to mention. every single field. computing is the single most important in my opinion, that allowed numerous others to take off
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:50 PM (zr5Kq)
I recall listening to Art Bell doing, among other things, shows on what they called "The Quickening." It's the concept that EVERYTHING is racing faster and faster, and innovations are coming at light speed, as compared to prior eras of human existence. Or even prior to human existence.
I don't really understand the details behind the concept, but yeah, the notion that there haven't been innovations over the past 50 years?
Eh, no.
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think again. too numerous to mention. every single field. computing is the single most important in my opinion, that allowed numerous others to take off
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:50 PM (zr5Kq)
I recall listening to Art Bell doing, among other things, shows on what they called "The Quickening." It's the concept that EVERYTHING is racing faster and faster, and innovations are coming at light speed, as compared to prior eras of human existence. Or even prior to human existence.
I don't really understand the details behind the concept, but yeah, the notion that there haven't been innovations over the past 50 years?
Eh, no.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 01:57 PM (hku12)
487
In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
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I have a theory, three things lead to greater freedom for the people:
1) cheaper, better weapons
2) cheaper, faster transportation
3) cheaper land
Each time one of those have happened, man was freed from the chains of government.
Notice how every trend of the last 50 years has been to restrict all 3?
In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
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I have a theory, three things lead to greater freedom for the people:
1) cheaper, better weapons
2) cheaper, faster transportation
3) cheaper land
Each time one of those have happened, man was freed from the chains of government.
Notice how every trend of the last 50 years has been to restrict all 3?
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 27, 2020 01:57 PM (aO8Gd)
488
US population
216 million (1975)
331 million (2020)
That has an effect on our sense of who we are.
Posted by: m at September 27, 2020 01:56 PM (qo4Jk)
We were less......diverse too.
216 million (1975)
331 million (2020)
That has an effect on our sense of who we are.
Posted by: m at September 27, 2020 01:56 PM (qo4Jk)
We were less......diverse too.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:58 PM (HrMC1)
489
I have more or less the same spending habits now
as I did when I was broke AF, which is allowing me to aggressively
reduce my debts
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:49 PM (NWiLs)
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I admire this. Good on ya.
I have more or less the same spending habits now
as I did when I was broke AF, which is allowing me to aggressively
reduce my debts
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:49 PM (NWiLs)
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I admire this. Good on ya.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:59 PM (gtNWf)
490
In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
I'd nominate The Web. Network technology + computing power + the software to bring it all together have each driven each other to completely change the world.
I'd nominate The Web. Network technology + computing power + the software to bring it all together have each driven each other to completely change the world.
Posted by: t-bird at September 27, 2020 01:59 PM (KfC1e)
491
So he's been going overboard in the other direction since. He was wrong at the start and he's wrong now.
He's a leftist follower. The left was saying "no big deal" (since it would make China look bad) and then they started saying "we're all gonna die" (since that makes Trump look bad). He isn't a leader, he's a mouthpiece.
He's a leftist follower. The left was saying "no big deal" (since it would make China look bad) and then they started saying "we're all gonna die" (since that makes Trump look bad). He isn't a leader, he's a mouthpiece.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:59 PM (KZzsI)
492
But then, things crashed. Company went under. They all LOST their nice stuff, while I was still living in the same place, with the same lifestyle I'd had all along.
Success can test you, just as failure does.
Posted by: Romeo13 at
I try to keep my expenses per month the same as what unemployment would be. It's paid off twice. Still stressful, but not as much as bankruptcy or foreclosure.
Success can test you, just as failure does.
Posted by: Romeo13 at
I try to keep my expenses per month the same as what unemployment would be. It's paid off twice. Still stressful, but not as much as bankruptcy or foreclosure.
Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2020 01:59 PM (4ZQiP)
493
I just saw the slimeball Fauci now saying that asymptomatic people are more contagious that symptomatic people for the wuhu flu. Not only reversing what he said earlier but without f'ing evidence. All political. I would like to punch that guy.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (r+sAi)
I'm looking forward to the day when this guy has his head shaved, his clothes torn off, and he is made to walk through a gauntlet of common folk, shouting "SHAME" as they toss urine and feces on his person.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 27, 2020 01:32 PM (r+sAi)
I'm looking forward to the day when this guy has his head shaved, his clothes torn off, and he is made to walk through a gauntlet of common folk, shouting "SHAME" as they toss urine and feces on his person.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 02:00 PM (hku12)
494
Have they put a lid on today yet, so I can go back to sleep?
Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden!
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Dude. I work "in media" and I was looking all over this morning for a Biden reaction to ACB from yesterday.
Got a Feinstein statement, a Harris tweet, a Schumer soundbite.... no Biden. The only "Biden" mention from yesterday was one of Trump's goofy insults at his rally.
Have they put a lid on today yet, so I can go back to sleep?
Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden!
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Dude. I work "in media" and I was looking all over this morning for a Biden reaction to ACB from yesterday.
Got a Feinstein statement, a Harris tweet, a Schumer soundbite.... no Biden. The only "Biden" mention from yesterday was one of Trump's goofy insults at his rally.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 27, 2020 02:00 PM (G51Gf)
495
But then, things crashed. Company went under. They all LOST their nice stuff, while I was still living in the same place, with the same lifestyle I'd had all along.
Success can test you, just as failure does.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 27, 2020 01:56 PM (NgKpN)
Yep. Best to keep your wits about you in times of plenty so you don't get totally fucked in times of want.
Success can test you, just as failure does.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 27, 2020 01:56 PM (NgKpN)
Yep. Best to keep your wits about you in times of plenty so you don't get totally fucked in times of want.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 02:00 PM (NWiLs)
496
>>> 488 US population
216 million (1975)
331 million (2020)
That has an effect on our sense of who we are.
Posted by: m at September 27, 2020 01:56 PM (qo4Jk)
We were less......diverse too.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:58 PM (HrMC1)
You're welcome!!
216 million (1975)
331 million (2020)
That has an effect on our sense of who we are.
Posted by: m at September 27, 2020 01:56 PM (qo4Jk)
We were less......diverse too.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:58 PM (HrMC1)
You're welcome!!
Posted by: Ted "Swimmer" Kennedy at September 27, 2020 02:01 PM (/kh7m)
497
In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
I can't remember the exact technology (TCP/IP?) but the tech that made the internet connect and be possible is the only one I can think of. Everything else is just reconfiguring or refinements of what we already had.
I can't remember the exact technology (TCP/IP?) but the tech that made the internet connect and be possible is the only one I can think of. Everything else is just reconfiguring or refinements of what we already had.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 02:01 PM (KZzsI)
498
In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
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What about me??? If you couldn't get it up in the "free love" '70's , you were out of LUCK. And couldn't FUCK.
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What about me??? If you couldn't get it up in the "free love" '70's , you were out of LUCK. And couldn't FUCK.
Posted by: V I A G R A at September 27, 2020 02:01 PM (HrMC1)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 02:01 PM (gtNWf)
500
Cereal boxes were bigger 50 years ago and came with toys.
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 02:02 PM (MVjcR)
501
448----So I kind of roll my eyes when I hear stuff like "women have to work today but didn't in the 50s". They don't HAVE TO, they CHOOSE TO in order to live a certain lifestyle.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:45 PM (Bl5GC)
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There is much truth in what you say.
But be careful not to confuse your upper-middle-class example with the average couple.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 27, 2020 01:45 PM (Bl5GC)
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There is much truth in what you say.
But be careful not to confuse your upper-middle-class example with the average couple.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 02:02 PM (M/9m0)
502
Why is cereal so damned expensive?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 02:02 PM (KZzsI)
503
Fauci is a suck-up too, and a lot of what he's doing now is to cover up the fact that he was DEAD wrong about Covid in LATE FEBRUARY when he said we "had nothing to worry about.'
So he's been going overboard in the other direction since. He was wrong at the start and he's wrong now.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:55 PM (HrMC1)
He's an errand boy for the Globalist Industrial Complex.
What I'm seeing now from him is, a series of apparently contradictory statements, that MIGHT fit together in a narrative, if looked a certain way, but have the effect of confusing the hell out of the people.
Which I believe is the point.
So he's been going overboard in the other direction since. He was wrong at the start and he's wrong now.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 01:55 PM (HrMC1)
He's an errand boy for the Globalist Industrial Complex.
What I'm seeing now from him is, a series of apparently contradictory statements, that MIGHT fit together in a narrative, if looked a certain way, but have the effect of confusing the hell out of the people.
Which I believe is the point.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (+y/Ru)
505
489
I have more or less the same spending habits now
as I did when I was broke AF, which is allowing me to aggressively
reduce my debts
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:49 PM (NWiLs)
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I admire this. Good on ya.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:59 PM (gtNWf)
Thank you, I appreciate that. It's not the most fun thing in the world but it'll feel so much better when I don't have it hanging over my head anymore.
I have more or less the same spending habits now
as I did when I was broke AF, which is allowing me to aggressively
reduce my debts
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 01:49 PM (NWiLs)
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I admire this. Good on ya.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:59 PM (gtNWf)
Thank you, I appreciate that. It's not the most fun thing in the world but it'll feel so much better when I don't have it hanging over my head anymore.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (NWiLs)
506
I try to keep my expenses per month the same as what unemployment would be. It's paid off twice. Still stressful, but not as much as bankruptcy or foreclosure.
Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2020 01:59 PM (4ZQiP)
Yeah, I'm in retirement mode now.
So REALLY downgraded how much space and stuff I need.
Will be moving within the next couple of years, and really trying to figure out how I want to live out my years.
Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2020 01:59 PM (4ZQiP)
Yeah, I'm in retirement mode now.
So REALLY downgraded how much space and stuff I need.
Will be moving within the next couple of years, and really trying to figure out how I want to live out my years.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (NgKpN)
507
Channel "Economics Explained" draws the distinction between relative and absolute poverty, a most apposite one IMO.
He's a bit of a lefty, but generally sensible.
Some people in the US might live in relative poverty, but no one lives in absolute poverty (as in, e.g., parts of Africa).
He's a bit of a lefty, but generally sensible.
Some people in the US might live in relative poverty, but no one lives in absolute poverty (as in, e.g., parts of Africa).
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (woUN+)
508
In 1975, there were very few Muslims in the USA.
I knew a few because I grew up in Paterson, NJ and there were a handful there.
There were also very few Mexicans anywhere other than in California or the Southwest.
I knew a few because I grew up in Paterson, NJ and there were a handful there.
There were also very few Mexicans anywhere other than in California or the Southwest.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (HrMC1)
509
What I would love is not going back to 1975 myself - I've been there and done that - I wish we could send millennials and Zoomers back there for a couple of weeks.
Because they'd die of shock. What would they do without their phones? They'd have to TALK to each other!!
It is also enjoyable to imagine a Zoomer or millennial explaining to a 1975 person what xer preferred pronouns are.
Because they'd die of shock. What would they do without their phones? They'd have to TALK to each other!!
It is also enjoyable to imagine a Zoomer or millennial explaining to a 1975 person what xer preferred pronouns are.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 27, 2020 02:04 PM (HabA/)
510
Sundowner Joe was on CNN after lunch pleading with the public to do the right thing, call your Senator and stop this injustice to Democracy and stop ACB from being nominated.
Posted by: Skip at September 27, 2020 02:04 PM (OjZpE)
511
I can't remember the exact technology (TCP/IP?) but the tech that made the internet connect and be possible is the only one I can think of. Everything else is just reconfiguring or refinements of what we already had.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 02:01 PM (KZzsI)
Your welcome!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 02:01 PM (KZzsI)
Your welcome!
Posted by: Al Gore, Rapist at September 27, 2020 02:04 PM (Z+IKu)
512
504 Seems like old times.
The Return Of CHAZ In Seattle - Rioting And Looting Returns
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (+y/Ru)
Let's get theband mob back together!
The question is whether Mayor Dyke is going to step up to the plate this time.
The Return Of CHAZ In Seattle - Rioting And Looting Returns
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (+y/Ru)
Let's get the
The question is whether Mayor Dyke is going to step up to the plate this time.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 27, 2020 02:05 PM (woUN+)
513
What I'm seeing now from him is, a series of apparently contradictory statements, that MIGHT fit together in a narrative, if looked a certain way, but have the effect of confusing the hell out of the people.
Which I believe is the point.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (hku12)
Also, he likes being a celebrity and in the spotlight, so he's just saying shit.
Which I believe is the point.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (hku12)
Also, he likes being a celebrity and in the spotlight, so he's just saying shit.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 02:05 PM (HrMC1)
514
467 In the last fifty year I am not sure if there has been any real ground breaking innovations.
think again. too numerous to mention. every single field. computing is the single most important in my opinion, that allowed numerous others to take off
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:50 PM (zr5Kq)
I can't agree. The major life-changing innovation we've had is the internet, which has been sort of a mixed blessing. Medicine is definitely better, but not by enough to counterbalance the prevalence of sedentary jobs.
The other stuff is mostly minor. Sure, lots of things are more efficient. Enough to notice on day to day basis? Not really.
think again. too numerous to mention. every single field. computing is the single most important in my opinion, that allowed numerous others to take off
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:50 PM (zr5Kq)
I can't agree. The major life-changing innovation we've had is the internet, which has been sort of a mixed blessing. Medicine is definitely better, but not by enough to counterbalance the prevalence of sedentary jobs.
The other stuff is mostly minor. Sure, lots of things are more efficient. Enough to notice on day to day basis? Not really.
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 27, 2020 02:05 PM (wGeit)
515
Most of the Muslims were in Dearborn.
Posted by: navybrat waits and watches at September 27, 2020 02:05 PM (w7KSn)
516
500 Cereal boxes were bigger 50 years ago and came with toys.
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 02:02 PM (MVjcR)
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Cracker Jacks. Real toys.
And they had more peanuts.
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 02:02 PM (MVjcR)
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Cracker Jacks. Real toys.
And they had more peanuts.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 02:06 PM (M/9m0)
517
You never hear homo economics arguments from people without jobs.
Posted by: DaveA at September 27, 2020 02:06 PM (FhXTo)
518
502 Why is cereal so damned expensive?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 02:02 PM (KZzsI)
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Good question. And what happened to the toys?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 02:02 PM (KZzsI)
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Good question. And what happened to the toys?
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 02:06 PM (MVjcR)
519
Because they'd die of shock. What would they do without their phones? They'd have to TALK to each other!!
It is also enjoyable to imagine a Zoomer or millennial explaining to a 1975 person what xer preferred pronouns are.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 27, 2020 02:04 PM (HabA/)
And those grotesque fat, tatted up , pierced, blue-haired freaks would be .....laughed at.
It is also enjoyable to imagine a Zoomer or millennial explaining to a 1975 person what xer preferred pronouns are.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 27, 2020 02:04 PM (HabA/)
And those grotesque fat, tatted up , pierced, blue-haired freaks would be .....laughed at.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 02:06 PM (HrMC1)
520
Cereal boxes were bigger 50 years ago and came with toys.
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 02:02 PM (MVjcR)
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Cracker Jacks. Real toys.
And they had more peanuts.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 02:06 PM (M/9m0)
Well most of them, except Kaboom!
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 02:02 PM (MVjcR)
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Cracker Jacks. Real toys.
And they had more peanuts.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 02:06 PM (M/9m0)
Well most of them, except Kaboom!
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 02:07 PM (HrMC1)
521
FIRST WORLD NOOD
Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at September 27, 2020 02:08 PM (OjZpE)
522
Nood
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 02:08 PM (ONvIw)
523
Cracker Jacks. Real toys.
And they had more peanuts.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 02:06 PM (M/9m0)
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I love Cracker Jacks! Haven't had them in a long time, tho.
And they had more peanuts.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 02:06 PM (M/9m0)
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I love Cracker Jacks! Haven't had them in a long time, tho.
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 02:08 PM (MVjcR)
524
Nood.
Posted by: Infidel at September 27, 2020 02:08 PM (4ZQiP)
525
504 Seems like old times.
The Return Of CHAZ In Seattle - Rioting And Looting Returns
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (+y/Ru)
I fear it will be "the new normal" for some locales. They just want and wait for some news item to be the "reason du jour" to flick their Bics.
It will continue until the locals who support and enable are the only ones left to victimize.
The Return Of CHAZ In Seattle - Rioting And Looting Returns
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (+y/Ru)
I fear it will be "the new normal" for some locales. They just want and wait for some news item to be the "reason du jour" to flick their Bics.
It will continue until the locals who support and enable are the only ones left to victimize.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at September 27, 2020 02:08 PM (8C7+r)
526
Living in he south has advantages. Change of seasons creates additional expense. Bet no one in the deep south owns a parka, snow tires, snow boots and a shovel.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 02:08 PM (zr5Kq)
527
She was next I stillliktbe hispanick girl
Posted by: Menack at September 27, 2020 02:08 PM (buTO7)
Posted by: pawn at September 27, 2020 02:09 PM (Cfk8j)
529
Anyway, Red State has a nice piece condemning the DOJ stall tactics. They have that pic of Durham in his ugly suit, that everyone says makes him look tough, when he's really gelatinous.
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 02:10 PM (ONvIw)
530
think again. too numerous to mention. every single field. computing is the single most important in my opinion, that allowed numerous others to take off
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:50 PM (zr5Kq)
Small incremental advancements. Nothing major.
Even digital communications have been around for longer than than office mainframes.
Just faster now.
Which makes the pron and arcade games so much better than is, say, 1980.
A major advancement might be fusion power, or spaceflight.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 01:50 PM (zr5Kq)
Small incremental advancements. Nothing major.
Even digital communications have been around for longer than than office mainframes.
Just faster now.
Which makes the pron and arcade games so much better than is, say, 1980.
A major advancement might be fusion power, or spaceflight.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 02:10 PM (/Dgcm)
531
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 27, 2020 01:57 PM (KZzsI)
What really annoys me is you have to pay for access to the White Pages online if you want to look up someone's cell phone number. The old-fashioned dead wood White Pages are useless because they only have landlines.
I want to look up old friends from time to time and I'm not on FB. I just want to call them - I don't need to pay $10 or $12 a month to do criminal background checks or find all their other family members.
What really annoys me is you have to pay for access to the White Pages online if you want to look up someone's cell phone number. The old-fashioned dead wood White Pages are useless because they only have landlines.
I want to look up old friends from time to time and I'm not on FB. I just want to call them - I don't need to pay $10 or $12 a month to do criminal background checks or find all their other family members.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at September 27, 2020 02:10 PM (HabA/)
532
Maybe next time
Posted by: Menack at September 27, 2020 02:10 PM (buTO7)
533
What I'm seeing now from him is, a series of apparently contradictory statements, that MIGHT fit together in a narrative, if looked a certain way, but have the effect of confusing the hell out of the people.
Which I believe is the point.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (hku12)
Also, he likes being a celebrity and in the spotlight, so he's just saying shit.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 02:05 PM (HrMC1)
I don't doubt he loves it. He's also been allowed to mingle with the BIG globalists, the people with REAL money and power, and I think he's something of a star-f**ker in that regard.
Not unlike the fat little toads who run twatter accounts for celebrities. Anyone you can think of, if they're big stars, there's some little shit who gets a sense of power and fame by sitting in front of a screen, typing stuff in the name of their employer.
That's Faulci. He doesn't always have to be TOLD what to say, but he gets to go out there and say it, and people LISTEN to him. By golly, they do.
Which I believe is the point.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 02:03 PM (hku12)
Also, he likes being a celebrity and in the spotlight, so he's just saying shit.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 27, 2020 02:05 PM (HrMC1)
I don't doubt he loves it. He's also been allowed to mingle with the BIG globalists, the people with REAL money and power, and I think he's something of a star-f**ker in that regard.
Not unlike the fat little toads who run twatter accounts for celebrities. Anyone you can think of, if they're big stars, there's some little shit who gets a sense of power and fame by sitting in front of a screen, typing stuff in the name of their employer.
That's Faulci. He doesn't always have to be TOLD what to say, but he gets to go out there and say it, and people LISTEN to him. By golly, they do.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 27, 2020 02:10 PM (hku12)
534
Is cereal that expensive when you think about it? What does a box of Grape Nuts cost? 5 bucks? That lasts a least a week for one person. Peanut-butter Capt. Crunch, 6 bucks? That lasts a couple days.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 27, 2020 02:10 PM (4thlk)
535
Gaelic Girl @485
That's an outstanding find. It's lengthy and I've only skimmed it but it's bookmarked for when I have time. Thank you.
That's an outstanding find. It's lengthy and I've only skimmed it but it's bookmarked for when I have time. Thank you.
Posted by: creeper at September 27, 2020 02:10 PM (XxJt1)
536
OT: The FDA is almost ready with their implantable biochip: https://tinyurl.com/yymccbqk
/because it makes complete sense to chip and vaccinate people for a disease that is not fatal to 99% of the population
/because it makes complete sense to chip and vaccinate people for a disease that is not fatal to 99% of the population
Posted by: shibumi, cat wrangler on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2020 02:11 PM (ZCiJZ)
537
Cracker Jacks. Real toys.
And they had more peanuts.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 02:06 PM (M/9m0)
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I love Cracker Jacks! Haven't had them in a long time, tho.
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 02:08 PM (MVjcR)
I used to love Cracker Jacks too !
And they had more peanuts.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 27, 2020 02:06 PM (M/9m0)
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I love Cracker Jacks! Haven't had them in a long time, tho.
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 02:08 PM (MVjcR)
I used to love Cracker Jacks too !
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 02:11 PM (zr5Kq)
538
/because it makes complete sense to chip and vaccinate people for a disease that is not fatal to 99% of the population
Posted by: shibumi, cat wrangler on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2020 02:11 PM (ZCiJZ)
That's really the driving force isn't it?
Posted by: shibumi, cat wrangler on the Prison Planet at September 27, 2020 02:11 PM (ZCiJZ)
That's really the driving force isn't it?
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 02:12 PM (ONvIw)
539
It blows my mind Californians haven't learned their lesson. Wildfires destroying whole towns and killing people are obviously testament to lousy resource management. Bankrupt utilities. Brown-outs. Crime. Degraded urban centers spreading now to the burbs....
What more do the Democrats have to do to convince a rational person to try a different approach?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (gtNWf)
Because absolute power corrupts absolutely.
And California Democrats are in absolute power. Only the Constitutionally mentioned county sheriffs are left to fight back. Otherwise it would be worse.
What more do the Democrats have to do to convince a rational person to try a different approach?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 27, 2020 01:43 PM (gtNWf)
Because absolute power corrupts absolutely.
And California Democrats are in absolute power. Only the Constitutionally mentioned county sheriffs are left to fight back. Otherwise it would be worse.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 27, 2020 02:12 PM (sy5kK)
540
This dad working, mom staying home in the "old days" is a bit of a myth, I think.
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Keep in mind, the term "home-based business" didn't exist until fairly recently. Stay-at-home mothers raised chickens and canned, sewed and tailored clothes, pooled resources by running nursery schools with rotating volunteers, etc. Those are just a few if the "non-work" activities that mothers did when I was growing up, but stretched the family budget.
Based on anecdotal evidence, I'd say that there was a big emphasis on running homes like a business, with wives expected to budget for bills and expenses in a way that seems completely foreign to modern Americans. Newspapers even in the '70s and '80s had columns about homemaking and saving money, focused on female readership. Marriage wasn't supposed to change girls into spendthrifts.
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Keep in mind, the term "home-based business" didn't exist until fairly recently. Stay-at-home mothers raised chickens and canned, sewed and tailored clothes, pooled resources by running nursery schools with rotating volunteers, etc. Those are just a few if the "non-work" activities that mothers did when I was growing up, but stretched the family budget.
Based on anecdotal evidence, I'd say that there was a big emphasis on running homes like a business, with wives expected to budget for bills and expenses in a way that seems completely foreign to modern Americans. Newspapers even in the '70s and '80s had columns about homemaking and saving money, focused on female readership. Marriage wasn't supposed to change girls into spendthrifts.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 27, 2020 02:13 PM (/+bwe)
541
Naturally the Cates bulb believes this is all a brilliantly conceived smoke screen by Durham. Riiiiight
Posted by: CN at September 27, 2020 02:15 PM (ONvIw)
542
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 02:10 PM (/Dgcm)
This demands a thoughtful response. Maybe another time ?
This demands a thoughtful response. Maybe another time ?
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 02:15 PM (zr5Kq)
543
Cereal boxes were bigger 50 years ago and came with toys.
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 02:02 PM (MVjcR)
One year you got a free mini-revolver with a box of Kaboom!
Was only 22 short though...
Posted by: Weasel at September 27, 2020 02:02 PM (MVjcR)
One year you got a free mini-revolver with a box of Kaboom!
Was only 22 short though...
Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 27, 2020 02:15 PM (/Dgcm)
544
Revolution 2020
https://tinyurl.com/y22ayakr
Posted by: Gaelic Girl at September 27, 2020 01:57 PM (5FCda)
TL;DR
We ain't voting our way out of this.
Revolution 2020
https://tinyurl.com/y22ayakr
Posted by: Gaelic Girl at September 27, 2020 01:57 PM (5FCda)
TL;DR
We ain't voting our way out of this.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 27, 2020 02:16 PM (kTi97)
545
1975 was 45 years ago, so we would be happy to send all the 20-year olds back to suffer and realize how great we are.
Our minds have rotted enough to forget that the people we had to answer to back then wanted US to go to 1930 so we could understand THEIR suffering.
And we rolled our eyes and made jokes about them and went out and did everything they thought was wrong, just to get even.
What did we learn from that? CLASS? Did we learn?
We learned NOTHING.
Our minds have rotted enough to forget that the people we had to answer to back then wanted US to go to 1930 so we could understand THEIR suffering.
And we rolled our eyes and made jokes about them and went out and did everything they thought was wrong, just to get even.
What did we learn from that? CLASS? Did we learn?
We learned NOTHING.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 27, 2020 02:16 PM (oRpiG)
546
I have been working with computers for forty years. One might argue that the IC technology has just incrementally gotten better and faster every year but at some point a difference in degree becomes a difference in kind. High speed ethernet and virtualization has made things so easy to run and support.
My company is about to get rid of our last z/OS mainframe, itself virtualized on an IBM zSeries. It's like the end of an era. Having a bigassed mainframe on site, with it's attended and expensive high priests, is just not necessary or even desirable anymore.
My company is about to get rid of our last z/OS mainframe, itself virtualized on an IBM zSeries. It's like the end of an era. Having a bigassed mainframe on site, with it's attended and expensive high priests, is just not necessary or even desirable anymore.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2020 02:17 PM (yQpMk)
547
It was funny, and it took the kids about 4 minutes or so, but they finally figured out how to make the call. It was also interesting just watching them figure out what was for them, a new puzzle.
They have no problems with the new, high tech stuff, but low tech? Hah.
To be fair, stuff today doesn't make it into production without someone doing some kind of usability testing on it. Rotary phones are operated the way they are because they're mechanical and that's just how it is.
They have no problems with the new, high tech stuff, but low tech? Hah.
To be fair, stuff today doesn't make it into production without someone doing some kind of usability testing on it. Rotary phones are operated the way they are because they're mechanical and that's just how it is.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 27, 2020 02:17 PM (6XLoz)
548
I have been working with computers for forty years. One might argue that the IC technology has just incrementally gotten better and faster every year but at some point a difference in degree becomes a difference in kind. High speed ethernet and virtualization has made things so easy to run and support.
Pervasive multi-core and fast SSDs are huge things that initially seemed incremental as well.
Pervasive multi-core and fast SSDs are huge things that initially seemed incremental as well.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 27, 2020 02:19 PM (6XLoz)
549
This post reminded me of this twitter thread.... Which I discovered via a post here anyway https://mobile.twitter.com/oren_cass/status/1230505649794166785
Posted by: chickenparm at September 27, 2020 02:20 PM (ALo3D)
550
I was watching a webex this week about networking with 100Gbs Ethernet. Sure, they were apologizing because we could only effectively wring 45Gbs from it but I was just boggled.
First world problems.
First world problems.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2020 02:22 PM (yQpMk)
551
45Gbs means that we can run SAN network storage over IP faster than we could run direct fiber attached storage just a couple of years ago.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2020 02:25 PM (yQpMk)
552
Within easy memory range, it would have been *extremely* rare for anyone to have taken, in a lifetime, 250 photographs.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2020 02:27 PM (WZ5i4)
553
Bet no one in the deep south owns a parka, snow tires, snow boots and a shovel.
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 02:08 PM (zr5Kq)
everyone owns a shovel
Posted by: runner at September 27, 2020 02:08 PM (zr5Kq)
everyone owns a shovel
Posted by: vmom 2020 - Grow Up and Vote for Trump by Eddie Scarry at September 27, 2020 02:30 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2020 02:32 PM (yQpMk)
555
I was watching a webex this week about networking with 100Gbs Ethernet. Sure, they were apologizing because we could only effectively wring 45Gbs from it but I was just boggled.
First world problems.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
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Just last night I was reading the War Department manual for EE-8-A Field Telephone. Range? 11 to 17 miles. 1942
First world problems.
Posted by: Grump928(C)
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Just last night I was reading the War Department manual for EE-8-A Field Telephone. Range? 11 to 17 miles. 1942
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 27, 2020 02:32 PM (bk3Sg)
556
the one thing they never talk about when they claim "everything is getting better" is the purchasing power of savings, which melts faster than an ice cube
Posted by: Jose at September 27, 2020 03:11 PM (L9Ewk)
557
Even F.A. Hayek, in the "Road to Serfdom" agrees that government has a role in healthcare:
"Nor is there any reason why the state should not assist the individuals in providing for those common hazards of life against which, because of their uncertainty, few individuals can make adequate provision. Where as in the case of sickness and accident, neither the desire to avoid such calamities nor the efforts to overcome their consequences are as a rule weakened by the provision of assistance - where, in short, we deal with genuinely insurable risks - the case for the state's helping to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance is very strong."
"Nor is there any reason why the state should not assist the individuals in providing for those common hazards of life against which, because of their uncertainty, few individuals can make adequate provision. Where as in the case of sickness and accident, neither the desire to avoid such calamities nor the efforts to overcome their consequences are as a rule weakened by the provision of assistance - where, in short, we deal with genuinely insurable risks - the case for the state's helping to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance is very strong."
Posted by: jwest at September 27, 2020 03:40 PM (/BlEx)
558
the case for the state's helping to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance is very strong.
On this topic, even the great Hayek is wrong, for the demand for government support is unlimited by any principle and becomes, always, a matter of politics and patronage.
On this topic, even the great Hayek is wrong, for the demand for government support is unlimited by any principle and becomes, always, a matter of politics and patronage.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 27, 2020 04:12 PM (yQpMk)
559
I'd go back to 1959 in a heartbeat. I had an idyllic childhood.
Posted by: Mimi Mayes at September 27, 2020 04:43 PM (8i7Ho)
560
In the South, where I grew up from 1956-1978, we really had a "Leave It to Beaver" existence. Yes, our family had its dark side, as many do, but we did have that bedrock sense of place: we had a church family, and went every Sunday like most of our friends; we belonged to a country club that was a nice place with no politics, hectoring, or screechers -- a nice swimming pool, tennis courts, golf course, and the clubhouse with a handsome dining room and club grill. All the members had been recommended by other members: you know, Free Association and all that.
We lived in the suburbs. Not fancy, but solidly middle class and comfortable. None of the wives worked -- we kids were free-range throughout the neighborhood and adjoining woods. Mom told us years later that the moms of the neighborhood kept track of us roaming around (like the Little Rascals) by keeping an eye on us outside the back windows. They would call each other near suppertime to let everyone know where the pack was, and that mom would step out and say, "Your moms want y'all home for supper!"
We roamed the woods, by ourselves or with a best friend. Swung from the trees on vines. Climbed the tree in the abandoned apple orchard. Spent a great deal of time daydreaming. When it was raining or cold, we'd be in our bedroom flopped on a bed, reading a book.
Not the least bit bored, that I can tell you.
There was one Family TV, which Dad controlled when he had a mind to: I saw a lot of football games and golf on the weekends and really got to like it, especially football. Golf was incredibly soothing: nap on the sofa....
Three channels: CBS, ABC, NBC. Almost none of the political bilge you see today, although the anchors were all libs. At midnight or 1:00 am on weekends, the stations would go off the air (so would the radio stations, mostly), with the Star Spangled Banner and the Indian-head test pattern. So you really had a cue to go to sleep. [I should program my computer to do that every night!]
Life was as full as it is now, and in some ways fuller -- instead of the ersatz electronic existence, we were spending a lot more time doing things ourselves.
Yeah, you can keep your 500 channels. That's not living, that's being in the Matrix.
PS: I'm going to be moving from NYC to Tennessee in 2-3 months, to Chattanooga. Anyone have any on-the-ground reports about Life in the Noog?
We lived in the suburbs. Not fancy, but solidly middle class and comfortable. None of the wives worked -- we kids were free-range throughout the neighborhood and adjoining woods. Mom told us years later that the moms of the neighborhood kept track of us roaming around (like the Little Rascals) by keeping an eye on us outside the back windows. They would call each other near suppertime to let everyone know where the pack was, and that mom would step out and say, "Your moms want y'all home for supper!"
We roamed the woods, by ourselves or with a best friend. Swung from the trees on vines. Climbed the tree in the abandoned apple orchard. Spent a great deal of time daydreaming. When it was raining or cold, we'd be in our bedroom flopped on a bed, reading a book.
Not the least bit bored, that I can tell you.
There was one Family TV, which Dad controlled when he had a mind to: I saw a lot of football games and golf on the weekends and really got to like it, especially football. Golf was incredibly soothing: nap on the sofa....
Three channels: CBS, ABC, NBC. Almost none of the political bilge you see today, although the anchors were all libs. At midnight or 1:00 am on weekends, the stations would go off the air (so would the radio stations, mostly), with the Star Spangled Banner and the Indian-head test pattern. So you really had a cue to go to sleep. [I should program my computer to do that every night!]
Life was as full as it is now, and in some ways fuller -- instead of the ersatz electronic existence, we were spending a lot more time doing things ourselves.
Yeah, you can keep your 500 channels. That's not living, that's being in the Matrix.
PS: I'm going to be moving from NYC to Tennessee in 2-3 months, to Chattanooga. Anyone have any on-the-ground reports about Life in the Noog?
Posted by: Beverly at September 27, 2020 05:13 PM (Ubyqu)
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This exposes the limitations of economics as a science to describe societies. Where is the measure of the feeling among many Americans that we are no longer judged equally by our justice system? Where is the graph showing the shift from manufacturing to service jobs, and the decrease in stability of the typical American family. And most of all, show me the pie chart that describes the withering away of patriotism and pride in country, replaced by a globalist perspective that we are all just one big (not so) happy world family.
This just goes to show that to many Americans, there is only one thing that counts, jobs wise: manufacturing. Hey, I like that too, BUT:
Why aren't we worried about ALL jobs?
What's wrong with farmers and ranchers, and what's wrong indeed with service jobs? Why are they treated with absolute disgust, while standing around in assembly lines all day long seen as THE only things that matter?
It just goes to show that to many people, this is the dream:
Percentage breakdown of jobs in America:
20% government
80% manufacturing
Percentage of global manufacturing:
America: 100%
The Rest Of The World: 0%
I fully anticipate being arrested for treason and spending hours being viciously beaten by police in the interrogation phase for saying this, but: aren't all jobs important? Do we not ALL have a role? And what are you doing to get your state and local governments to be more business friendly for ALL business?
I believe that this country can and should do...everything. We have 300 million+ people in the world's fourth largest country, so we SHOULD do a little of everything.
This just goes to show that to many Americans, there is only one thing that counts, jobs wise: manufacturing. Hey, I like that too, BUT:
Why aren't we worried about ALL jobs?
What's wrong with farmers and ranchers, and what's wrong indeed with service jobs? Why are they treated with absolute disgust, while standing around in assembly lines all day long seen as THE only things that matter?
It just goes to show that to many people, this is the dream:
Percentage breakdown of jobs in America:
20% government
80% manufacturing
Percentage of global manufacturing:
America: 100%
The Rest Of The World: 0%
I fully anticipate being arrested for treason and spending hours being viciously beaten by police in the interrogation phase for saying this, but: aren't all jobs important? Do we not ALL have a role? And what are you doing to get your state and local governments to be more business friendly for ALL business?
I believe that this country can and should do...everything. We have 300 million+ people in the world's fourth largest country, so we SHOULD do a little of everything.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 27, 2020 06:25 PM (4JLkY)
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There was much more neighborliness and connection between people in 1975. We went outside and did stuff with people.
Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at September 27, 2020 06:42 PM (ftFVW)
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I grew up being taught that I was the bad guy in my own country as my elders sold my future out for trinkets made in China and replaced young legacy Americans with people from incompatible cultures. If that's the free market, you can shove it.
Posted by: joe joe at September 27, 2020 08:25 PM (jS2zB)
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Bizarre. Bring 'round the time machine--I'd go back to 1975 in a heartbeat.My goodness, living in San Diego, and it wasn't a huge, half-Mexican metropolis, but a friendly, little navy town....rent affordable, great clubs, Led Zep concerts, no riots, no being punched out as a "game," able to live on a "mcjob" perfectly well as long as a one-bedroom apt or cottage served your needs (and it did) --
Great music everywhere, for that matter, going to mind-blowing concerts every month or so, half the people I knew were in bands, the culture wasn't degraded and pornified, blacks, whites, and hispanics hung out and partied together, tripping in the canyons of Balboa Park...
The 21st century is a detestable wreck---ask anyone who was there -- not the social justice warriors who think any year before their birth was "jim crow" and "sexist" and all those silly things they say now...but anyone who was alive in the 70s, and they'll tell you how it was 1,000 times better than now.
Great music everywhere, for that matter, going to mind-blowing concerts every month or so, half the people I knew were in bands, the culture wasn't degraded and pornified, blacks, whites, and hispanics hung out and partied together, tripping in the canyons of Balboa Park...
The 21st century is a detestable wreck---ask anyone who was there -- not the social justice warriors who think any year before their birth was "jim crow" and "sexist" and all those silly things they say now...but anyone who was alive in the 70s, and they'll tell you how it was 1,000 times better than now.
Posted by: hey! ho! let's go! at September 27, 2020 10:01 PM (ZBkSG)
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I married in 1975. Two years later my bride (a receptionist) and I (delivery driver) bought a house with the 2K gift of my father-in-law. True, there were no computers, cell phones, or internet; but we had every reason to believe that the future was ours for the taking. We were wrong of course; we were at the apex of our working class lives. It was all downhill from there.
Posted by: Estoy Listo at September 28, 2020 12:52 AM (vLJM8)
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