Americans Losing Trust in Their Scientific Institutions, Poll Finds

Oh really?

I wonder what might account for that?

Could it be that these institutions are dominated by leftwingers and leftwingers have gone absolutely bugfuck insane for four years straight? And have converted every institution they control into a Democrat/Socialist front group?

For example:


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1 Decline

Posted by: Scientific Miklos at September 15, 2020 12:57 PM (QzkSJ)

2 Sponge!

Posted by: Bete at September 15, 2020 12:57 PM (Ojki1)

3 One thing I definitely associate with Biden is Science!

Posted by: Emmie at September 15, 2020 12:57 PM (4JM5Y)

4
You earn respect, you're not owed it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 15, 2020 12:57 PM (mht8P)

5 Maybe if science stopped trying to ask people to take everything on faith...

Posted by: Bete at September 15, 2020 12:58 PM (Ojki1)

6 Wow, bold move SA, cutting edge

Posted by: Zeera at September 15, 2020 12:58 PM (zUdXR)

7 Hide the decline.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 12:59 PM (ZLI7S)

8 I told you guys!

Posted by: Zombie Ike at September 15, 2020 12:59 PM (63Dwl)

9 So Scientific American didn't endorse Abraham Lincoln but it will endorse Biden?

They believe that the environment or whatever is more important than the abolition of slavery? Why does Scientific American hate blacks?

Now that I think about it, they've been around for 175 years I bet there are some back issues that say some pretty interesting things about "The Negro Races."

Posted by: 29Victor at September 15, 2020 12:59 PM (BJKQV)

10 How can someone challenge science'n stuff

Posted by: Zeera at September 15, 2020 12:59 PM (zUdXR)

11 The science is unsettling.

Posted by: Fortcoins at September 15, 2020 12:59 PM (exb34)

12 Maybe if science stopped trying to ask people to take everything on faith...
Posted by: Bete at September 15, 2020 12:58 PM (Ojki1)

it's almost as if those in charge of a lot of these "scientific organizations" don't know how science ACTUALLY works...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 15, 2020 12:59 PM (8D42x)

13 To Scientific American: with everyone dead from Tax cuts, Global climate, the lax internet rules and now Covid who is left for Trump to kill?

Posted by: Bete at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (Ojki1)

14 Lie to people enough, sooner or later they get the picture that they're being lied to.

Weird, right ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (Oi/63)

15

sad

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (rjE57)

16 SciAm's gone SJW well before this, didn't they?


Is this a new AGW push? Seems like the new talking point is a return to global warming hysteria.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (oVJmc)

17
The American Chemical Society is unconcerned about the destruction of R&D in the US chemical industry. But it's obsessed with Diversity, BLM and Womyn in Science. Faugh!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (mht8P)

18 Unfortunately the scientific community has bifurcated itself.


There's now:

- the True Scientist, who believe in: truth, facts, data, Scientific method,

- the 'Chicken Little' Scientist, who believe in crap models, apocoliptic proclamations and panic porn.


Out of the 2 groups, the 'Chicken little' ones are now sadly more prevalent.

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (g2uaa)

19 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:01 PM (UWqZJ)

20 They keep yabbering about science, yet there was a recent SciAm op ed about de-emphasizing falsifiability as a requirement for true science. In short, just trust us. The global warmists are masters with this argument.

Posted by: chuckR at September 15, 2020 01:01 PM (bRvKP)

21

So Scientific America supports attacking the police now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 15, 2020 01:01 PM (rjE57)

22
Out of the 2 groups, the 'Chicken little' ones are now sadly more prevalent.
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (g2uaa)

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Maybe not more prevalent, just louder.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 15, 2020 01:02 PM (mht8P)

23 "Hey! Let's become more overtly political! That'll get more people to like us!"
-Institutions who don't seem to understand people

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:02 PM (UWqZJ)

24 About 2000, I was at lunch at my then job and there was a copy of Scientific American. I started reading an article about how to 'fix' Globull Warmering. One of the ideas was population control through non lethal means. It was illuminating. I never read it again. The rot has been deep in our institutions for decades. It's just more pronounced now.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 15, 2020 01:02 PM (dV48Q)

25 Busy Ace!

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:02 PM (XvwBl)

26

Scientific America
Anti-Semites and Anti-World Peace

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 15, 2020 01:02 PM (rjE57)

27 One quibble: if you're doing this stuff, you aren't a scientific institution, no matter what you call yourself.

3
One thing I definitely associate with Biden is Science!

Specifically, geriatrics and neuronal decay.

Posted by: pep at September 15, 2020 01:02 PM (v16oJ)

28 "Comments can be bad for science. That's why, here at PopularScience.com, we're shutting them off."

www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-09/
why-were-shutting-our-comments/

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:02 PM (ySswD)

29 If I can get some of the science that Thomas Dolby sang about, that might help restore some of my lost trust.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at September 15, 2020 01:03 PM (ch6++)

30

Trump names all gathered for the signing earlier. No way Biden would have even attempted to say their names.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 15, 2020 01:03 PM (rjE57)

31 Fauci Effect

Posted by: garrett at September 15, 2020 01:03 PM (DpMqF)

32 I wonder if SciAm can explain the science of Orange Man Bad?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 15, 2020 01:03 PM (AFSld)

33 Only now?

Fvck Carl Sagan and his 'nuclear winter' with the barbed flaming c0ck of Satan.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2020 01:03 PM (SIo1x)

34 Scientific America

Say goodbye to your subscribers

Posted by: It's me donna at September 15, 2020 01:03 PM (Zmnko)

35 So they have two jobs, science and ethics police.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 15, 2020 01:04 PM (pB6Gt)

36 Sciam used to be a great publication. Then somewhere around 2000 they got some new editors who dumbed it down considerably and turned it into a me-too version of The Atlantic for global warming cultists. Frankly, it's heartbreaking.

Posted by: Ace's liver at September 15, 2020 01:04 PM (wGeit)

37
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:02 PM (ySswD)

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Oh, good.

Shutting off commenting is usually a sign that your traffic is cratering, and it's never coming back.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 15, 2020 01:04 PM (x73LH)

38 Those Swallow are clearly unladen.

Posted by: garrett at September 15, 2020 01:04 PM (DpMqF)

39 Scientific American is neither scientific nor American. Discuss among yourselves.

Posted by: josephistan at September 15, 2020 01:04 PM (Izzlo)

40 If your hypothesis fails scrutiny, you can't continue using it. Full stop. The end.

Scientismists don't believe in that, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:04 PM (ySswD)

41 I wonder if Scientific American believes in the science of dementia

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:04 PM (842IN)

42 They love Lysenkoism sexually.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 15, 2020 01:04 PM (NWiLs)

43 Losing? How about long gone. When both sides can buy "expert witnesses" in litigation, that "proves" their points, you're not dealing with inviolable science anymore. And that's been going on for decades.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 15, 2020 01:05 PM (LGXGf)

44 If I can get some of the science that Thomas Dolby sang about, that might help restore some of my lost trust.

You just want to smack some Ms Sakamoto...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2020 01:05 PM (SIo1x)

45 I looked it up--ultimately SciAm is owned by a privately held German company, it's no longer American owned.

Posted by: Lirio100 at September 15, 2020 01:05 PM (JK7Jw)

46 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 15, 2020 01:05 PM (1c2dI)

47 the disturbing bit of that scientific american tweet? the bit that makes them seem untrustworthy? lack of an oxford comma.

Posted by: Anachronda at September 15, 2020 01:05 PM (sGtp+)

48 This is my comment (willowed) on this:

"I remember when it was a real publication."

SciAmer has been political at least since the 1960s when they were pushing strategic arms control.

They stopped being interesting when they dropped their Amateur Scientist column, that showed how to build DIY x-ray machines and particle accelerators.
Posted by: gp at September 15, 2020 12:41 PM (qpX6U)

The destruction of 'science' as I think of it began to decline with the establishment of the Union of Concerned Scientists, which IIRC was established to be an anti-nuclear group.

Once they did their nonsense, as well as that execrable 'Doomsday Clock', the decline was well and truly in effect.

The Scientific American statement just puts a period on that sentence.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 15, 2020 01:05 PM (6xA3t)

49 The climate farce did it for a lot of numerate people.

The pandemic farce just sealed the deal.

Note that I did not say hoax or fraud. There is some truth intermeshed into all these farces -- but so what, effective lies are usually a corruption built on top of some things that are true.

There has to be some truth in it. If their lie started out with "the air is made of chocolate pudding," it would be a lot harder to sell.

Posted by: jc at September 15, 2020 01:05 PM (PuMKG)

50 Maybe if science stopped trying to ask people to take everything on faith...
Posted by: Bete at September 15, 2020 12:58 PM (Ojki1)

it's almost as if those in charge of a lot of these "scientific organizations" don't know how science ACTUALLY works...
Posted by: SturmToddler



Covid - .012 to .3
Fire smoke .4 to .7

Masks don't stop Fire smoke, but will stop Covid.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2020 01:06 PM (3XqsM)

51

Vote for the guy who doesn't know where he's at most of the time because SCIENCE!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 15, 2020 01:06 PM (rC3Hg)

52 Translation: we need the money train to keep flowing. Vote Biden!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 15, 2020 01:06 PM (1c2dI)

53 44 If I can get some of the science that Thomas Dolby sang about, that might help restore some of my lost trust.

You just want to smack some Ms Sakamoto...
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 15, 2020 01:05 PM (SIo1x)


"He blinded me. With semen."

- - Andrew Gillum

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2020 01:06 PM (s2VJv)

54 >>>Shutting off commenting is usually a sign that your traffic is cratering, and it's never coming back.


See also: NRO

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 15, 2020 01:06 PM (AFSld)

55 Trust no one !!!!

Posted by: Atomic Blonde at September 15, 2020 01:06 PM (LPnfS)

56 Well, the founders should not have included a "Chief Doctor and Determiner of all things Health" in the constitution then.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 15, 2020 01:06 PM (JRaU+)

57 Most of the problem with today's "science" is that it is opinion masquerading as science.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-now with more Disturbed) at September 15, 2020 01:06 PM (N3El/)

58

I'm sure they have already purged the non-sjw npc's.

Other scientific organizations, major ones get some pushback within but then get silenced.

It's like a wildfire.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 15, 2020 01:06 PM (rjE57)

59 They're not seeking trust from us.

They are demanding obedience. Expecting faith, requiring us to recite their creed.

"Science" is a cult.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:07 PM (hku12)

60 Haven't read the content or comments yet. But I'm thinking the key to this poll result is in the word "institutions" moreso than the word "scientific"

Posted by: Hands at September 15, 2020 01:07 PM (786Ro)

61 They have always been insane.

Posted by: Based Department at September 15, 2020 01:07 PM (AR3Ko)

62 45
I looked it up--ultimately SciAm is owned by a privately held German company, it's no longer American owned.

today scientific american, tomorrow scientific world!

Posted by: Scientific German at September 15, 2020 01:07 PM (sGtp+)

63 Tech has gone down the same hole. Dammit.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at September 15, 2020 01:07 PM (2BgZB)

64 Remember when Popular Mechanics debunked Trooferism?

Today that would be a profile in courage.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 15, 2020 01:07 PM (oVJmc)

65

So Trump went to the "banks" versus the Palestinians to broker this deal.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 15, 2020 01:07 PM (rjE57)

66 Could it be that these institutions are dominated by leftwingers and
leftwingers have gone absolutely bugfuck insane for four years straight?
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"Four"

Posted by: Methos at September 15, 2020 01:07 PM (kOpft)

67

I quit SA when they canceled The Amateur Scientist. The book of collected columns is worth having.

Posted by: Disturbed Jones at September 15, 2020 01:07 PM (d6DSt)

68 55 Trust no one !!!!
Posted by: Atomic Blonde at September 15, 2020 01:06 PM (LPnfS)

Trust but verify.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:07 PM (XvwBl)

69 Science is what the politburo tells you it is comrade scientist.

Posted by: Archer at September 15, 2020 01:07 PM (gmo/4)

70 The Masks.

Zey Do NOTHING!

Posted by: garrett at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (DpMqF)

71 Once they did their nonsense, as well as that execrable 'Doomsday Clock', the decline was well and truly in effect.

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Why was not The Paolo consulted about this Doomsday C- oh you said "Clock."

Posted by: The Paolo at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (Izzlo)

72
The 2020 election is literally a matter of life and death. We urge you to vote for health, science and Joe Biden for President.
https://scientificamerican.com/article/scientific-american-endorses-joe-biden/



Man, that is some great SCIENCE!!! right there!

I wonder how they obtained the data?

By reading Goat's Entrails or summoning the All-Powerful God-Frog, Croaky?

Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (EERbD)

73 Weird Science...

Now that is something that I can fully support.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (3D/fK)

74 This actually dovetails nicely with a recent article in the same magazine that asserted we should let go of the notion scientific theories need to be falsifiable. I'm not 100% certain on this without reading the article, but that seems wrong to me on a fundamental level.

Posted by: Ace's liver at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (wGeit)

75

Look at the Oak Ridge National Lab and the CDC. Mandatory critical race theory in what is supposed to be scientific institutions and agencies.

QED.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (s2VJv)

76 Maybe if they hadn't said we'd all be dead by now.
Because, we aren't.

Posted by: atttila the reliable at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (w7KSn)

77 Keep in mind, the people running "Scientific American" are recent graduates with humanities degrees. They haven't had actual scientists on the staff for decades.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (naEeR)

78 Climate change is Anti-Science...They're "guessing" and they've been wrong for decades...This time for reals!

Posted by: It's me donna at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (Zmnko)

79 The pro-virus college football games have been hilarious.

The referees will stand alone calling the game fully masked, then unmask and gather as a group to discuss what happened after a flag is thrown.

Reporters will stand alone on the sideline fully masked, then unmask and interview a person who removes his mask to talk.

SCINS!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (ySswD)

80 45 I looked it up--ultimately SciAm is owned by a privately held German company, it's no longer American owned.
Posted by: Lirio100 at September 15, 2020 01:05 PM (JK7Jw)

Scientific American is neither American Nor Scientific. Discuss.

Posted by: Coffee Talk at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (842IN)

81 Scientific American has long been at cable television levels of scientific respect.

Posted by: Synova at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (BD/yx)

82 Critical Science Theory

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (63Dwl)

83 They're not seeking trust from us.

They are demanding obedience. Expecting faith, requiring us to recite their creed.

"Science" is a cult.
Posted by: BurtTC



If it weren't for my damned authority issues....

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2020 01:09 PM (3XqsM)

84 *shoots dog

Why would you do this America?

^^

Everything on the Left now

Posted by: MJ at September 15, 2020 01:09 PM (gAMkn)

85
If you vote for Trump, you ain't science-y!
-- Scientific American

Posted by: Hands at September 15, 2020 01:09 PM (786Ro)

86 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:02 PM (ySswD)

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Oh, good.

Shutting off commenting is usually a sign that your traffic is cratering, and it's never coming back.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 15, 2020 01:04 PM (x73LH)

but it worked so well for hot air...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 15, 2020 01:09 PM (8D42x)

87 This actually dovetails nicely with a recent article in the same magazine that asserted we should let go of the notion scientific theories need to be falsifiable.

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Holy sh*t. Dark ages here we comes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:09 PM (ySswD)

88 16 SciAm's gone SJW well before this, didn't they?
Is this a new AGW push? Seems like the new talking point is a return to global warming hysteria.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (oVJmc)

The Enviro's are all enthused because Biden says he'll rejoin the Paris treaty, the one which does nothing except restrict American output and force America to pay reparations to countries around the world.

Remember those things when anyone says "How come America is the only country which opposes the Paris accord? It's like asking "how come the sheep is the only one who feels uncomfortable going to the Wolf's Banquet?"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:09 PM (Kpl3J)

89 Until recently, I thought medical science would be immune to SJW bullshit because to allow it would be simply too evil. OK, so I made a mistake.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2020 01:10 PM (+y/Ru)

90 From the Hole in the Ozone scam to the Sugar Scare to the Salt Will Kill You to AIDS Is For Everyone, Not Just Faggots to Weed Is Bad to Weed Is Good scheme to the Midget In A Mask.....

I don't believe any of their shit anymore.

Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 15, 2020 01:10 PM (Z+IKu)

91 Look, fat the science is clear.


If you don't ship our jobs to China, then Portland will burn down. That's just the facts, ok?



Posted by: Joe Biden at September 15, 2020 01:10 PM (qlFIA)

92 The 2020 election is literally a matter of life and death.
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The scientists literally used the word literally.

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:10 PM (842IN)

93 There was a time when education and science were about the pursuit of the truth. Latin words such as "veritas" still adorn many of the older institutions logos.

It's not about that anymore. It's about people's insane biases and whimsical desires which they use to distract from the truth and into a contra-intellectual dumpster fire.

There was a time when we called that apostasy and the person doing it, a recreant.

Liberals poison and foul everything they touch.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 15, 2020 01:10 PM (VpIIl)

94
Matter of life and death, eh?

As in, "which candidate will be alive and which one will be dead by Nov. '24?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 15, 2020 01:11 PM (x73LH)

95 So SciAm is intellectually aligned with BlackLivesMatter?

Good to know.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 15, 2020 01:11 PM (3D/fK)

96 Miss me yet, comrades?

Posted by: Zombie Trofim Lysenko at September 15, 2020 01:11 PM (786Ro)

97 Remember those things when anyone says "How come America is the only
country which opposes the Paris accord? It's like asking "how come the
sheep is the only one who feels uncomfortable going to the Wolf's
Banquet?"
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Trump should offer them the Paris Accord in exchange for acceptance of the Imperial System, now renamed the "Trump American System of Measurement"

Posted by: SH at September 15, 2020 01:11 PM (sX1BW)

98 Until recently, I thought medical science would be immune to SJW
bullshit because to allow it would be simply too evil. OK, so I made a
mistake.
___

What are you talking about?

Posted by: Some Scientist claiming Wuhan Flu doesn't affect rioters at September 15, 2020 01:11 PM (qlFIA)

99 So, earlier this morning, a barge hit the brand new bridge spanning Pensacola Bay. This, of course, will be blamed on either global warming or Trump. Maybe both.

Posted by: fly at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (2M/TV)

100
The Enviro's are all enthused because Biden says he'll rejoin the Paris treaty, the one which does nothing except restrict American output and force America to pay reparations to countries around the world.



The one that exempts the Chinese and ensures they will acquire all manufacturing away from the West.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (oVJmc)

101 The pro-virus college football games have been hilarious.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (ySswD)

Yep. You can't watch the games and NOT realize this is ridiculous. Science mask on, science mask off.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (uhPTO)

102 Results for one.
Not a single one of their dire predictions comes true.
Not just 5 year plans but 100 year plans.
Failure at all levels.

But they do meet their diversity goals... so they got that going for them.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (pw+jk)

103

UAE up.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (rjE57)

104 So, what's Biden going to do to reverse global warming?

Rejoin the Paris Accords with the European countries that have increased their carbon output while we've decreased ours?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (UWqZJ)

105 Scientific American is literally (!) neither scientific nor American. It was acquired by some Brits years ago, and is all-in on Lysenkoist rubbish now.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (Tatvh)

106
old and busted: Peer-reviewed and Replicable
new hotness: Fits the Narrative

Posted by: Hands at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (786Ro)

107
but it worked so well for hot air...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 15, 2020 01:09 PM (8D42x

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Yup, it's throwing in the digital towel. Just an acknowledgement that you failed, and you're tired of being reminded about it every 5 minutes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (x73LH)

108 Man, that is some great SCIENCE!!! right there!

I wonder how they obtained the data?

By reading Goat's Entrails or summoning the All-Powerful God-Frog, Croaky?

Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (EERbD)


They have an image of birds orbiting Neptune.

That's some sciencey science right there.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:13 PM (hku12)

109 So, what's Biden going to do to reverse global warming?

Part the seas like obama

Posted by: It's me donna at September 15, 2020 01:13 PM (Zmnko)

110 Liberals poison and foul everything they touch.
Posted by: Marcus T at September 15, 2020 01:10 PM (VpIIl)
- - - - - - -

It's sometimes easier for people to see evidence of me than evidence of God.

Posted by: Satan at September 15, 2020 01:13 PM (842IN)

111 87 This actually dovetails nicely with a recent article in the same magazine that asserted we should let go of the notion scientific theories need to be falsifiable.

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Holy sh*t. Dark ages here we comes.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:09 PM (ySswD)

Yeah.

For them.

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at September 15, 2020 01:13 PM (eIig2)

112 That is not logical.

Posted by: Spock at September 15, 2020 01:13 PM (SWbVS)

113 3 One thing I definitely associate with Biden is Science!
Posted by: Emmie at September 15, 2020 12:57 PM (4JM5Y)


One thing I definitely associate with Biden is ... uh ... you know ... the thing. C'mon, man.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:13 PM (Tatvh)

114 Fauxi, was against masks before he was for them!

SCIENCE!
Don't forget to hydrate!
SCIENCE!

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 15, 2020 01:13 PM (9NndL)

115 Scientific American: "The 2020 election is literally a matter of life and death. We urge you to vote for health, science..."

Life? Health? Joe Biden?

One of those things is barely hanging on to the other two. Can SciAm's mathemagicians figure out the answer? Subscribe now to get next month's cover story, "We Really Don't Know Sh*t And You Shouldn't Either".

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 15, 2020 01:13 PM (HhXSr)

116 The picture on that SciAmer tweet is very "scientific" looking. It looks like something that hangs in a public grade school "science" class.

Posted by: gp at September 15, 2020 01:13 PM (qpX6U)

117 The Science is Settled!

Just like that Triple Chipotle Habanero Burrito Deluxe I ate for lunch.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 15, 2020 01:13 PM (88+cf)

118 103

UAE up.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (rjE57)

In Arabic, alas. But yay now translated.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:13 PM (XvwBl)

119 So, earlier this morning, a barge hit the brand new bridge spanning Pensacola Bay. This, of course, will be blamed on either global warming or Trump. Maybe both.
Posted by: fly at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (2M/TV)


Perhaps you've been asleep. This is 2020.

Covid 19.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (hku12)

120 Neither scientific nor American!

Posted by: E.Teller at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (Ski5c)

121 Maybe if science didn't change its mind every five minutes, I might believe it a little more.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (yHHWj)

122 "Understanding the Cause Behind the Prevalence of Black Men in Competitive Sports Like the NFL"

- Scientific American, November 2020


(ha, just kidding)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (ySswD)

123 I've been genetically undressing you.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (pB6Gt)

124 maybe don't keep trying to tell me neal degrasse tyson is a scientist when all he ever does is talk politics and religion history. there's a reason he doesn't talk much science.

Posted by: x at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (nFwvY)

125 Sciency American

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (iediH)

126 Biden is officially worried about FL, despite a consistent "polling lead." He is campaigning in Tampa today, his first FL stop of the campaign....50 days out.

Huge lead nationally for Biden, though...or so I am told.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (JRaU+)

127 Didn't Stalin have his group of approved scientists?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (lgiXo)

128 12 Maybe if science stopped trying to ask people to take everything on faith...
Posted by: Bete at September 15, 2020 12:58 PM (Ojki1)

it's almost as if those in charge of a lot of these "scientific organizations" don't know how science ACTUALLY works...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 15, 2020 12:59 PM (8D42x)

"I Believe Science!" has become the new "God is my Copilot!"

It seems that the less the public knows about any scientific discipline the more important it becomes that they confess their faith in "Science." It's no longer about understanding or knowledge, just about having faith.

"Consequently, faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of Science."

Posted by: 29Victor at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (BJKQV)

129 The media wet itself yesterday when some California government drone told Trump that global warming was causing the fires and Trump told him scientists don't know what they're talking about.

The global warming industry relies on government grants and handouts and in turn they give leftists the ammo they need to take more control from us. The game is obvious.

And they wonder why people are losing faith in "science".

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:15 PM (ZLI7S)

130

Lots of applause at the beginning for Jared.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 15, 2020 01:15 PM (rjE57)

131 Why was not The Paolo consulted about this Doomsday C- oh you said "Clock."
Posted by: The Paolo at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM


Stay in your lane, bub.

Posted by: Clock Boy at September 15, 2020 01:15 PM (ejd/p)

132 The American Chemical Society is unconcerned about the destruction of R&D in the US chemical industry. But it's obsessed with Diversity, BLM and Womyn in Science. Faugh!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (mht8P)


C&EN (ACS trade mag) used to have at least one article per issue on Womyn in Science, written by silly girls who obviously were washed out of grad school. For reasons that were apparent.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:15 PM (Tatvh)

133 The true conservative case for wild ass guesses.

Posted by: Bulwark Hot Takes at September 15, 2020 01:15 PM (786Ro)

134 Global warming causes arsonists.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:15 PM (ySswD)

135 It was really lovely to see Netanyahu face PDT and put his hand over his own heart, and PDT did the same.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:15 PM (XvwBl)

136 NC Wuhan Flu update: For five straight days, the NC positive test results for all tests have been at 5.2% or lower. Today, the number is 5.0%. King Roy Cooper has repeatedly stated that he and his minions would be comfortable with advancing to the "next phase" when the positive test rate reaches 5%. FREE THE PEOPLE!

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (Pqytn)

137 Quit badgering me. I said I'm NOT running. I have serious work to do.

Posted by: Senator Science at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (HhXSr)

138


It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere...

Posted by: Voltaire Jones at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (d6DSt)

139 Watching pronhub can be a scientific endeavor

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (ROLxQ)

140 I have, from childhood, been known as one who inherently distrusts experts. I have always considered that a strength. I hope that the concept of critical thinking is expanding, though my observations of those around me are not promising.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (kA3Cp)

141 I don't know what you're all watching. I was told in the last thread that all Trump has done is tweet for 4 years.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (2fGCR)

142 Losing trust, you say?


"Trust"

Hmmm. For several years now science has become something one believes in. I see the signs, I hear the various politicians, activists, and celebrities, all declaring " I BELIEVE in science."

How can you expect everyone to automatically "trust" a matter of faith?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (bDqIh)

143 The destruction of 'science' as I think of it began to decline with the
establishment of the Union of Concerned Scientists, which IIRC was
established to be an anti-nuclear group.

***

One of the greatest sources of amazement in my life is the American left working hand in glove with the Russians during the Cold War, as for example the Union of Concerned Scientists, to now arguing that the Russians are controlling their political opponents.


Trump should have amped this sh*t up to 11 and arrested everyone working on the Ted Kennedy presidential campaign for treason, since as we know he colluded with the Soviets.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (qlFIA)

144 15 DAYS TO SLOW THE SPREAD

Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (nUhF0)

145 So space is yellow, birds breathe vacuum, and the Earth is 99.9% water.

How Sciency.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (/EuRN)

146 because this type of reasoning has been thrown out of science:
1. Make a theory on how something works.
2. Devise a test to prove/disprove your theory and run it.
3. Modify theory from the results of real world test.
Repeat number 2 and 3 until theory and results match.
4. Put out for peer review and more testing.


Now it is make a theory and force results to match theory. skip steps 3 and 4. Declare you have "consensus."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 15, 2020 01:17 PM (pw+jk)

147 So gay though

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:17 PM (842IN)

148 Well the CDC did say that racism was disease.
SCIENCE!

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 15, 2020 01:17 PM (9NndL)

149 Scientific American ~ The Economist

Formerly worth reading, now "woke," and worthless. Both Brit publications.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:17 PM (Tatvh)

150 131 Lots of applause at the beginning for Jared.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 15, 2020 01:15 PM (rjE57)

I think that, for most of Netanyahu's talk, C-SPAN turned off the microphones for the applause. Netanyahu seemed to acknowledge occasional applause, but there was no sound.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:17 PM (XvwBl)

151 And I'm sure some commie, non MD heading WHO will have zero impact on its proclamations.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 15, 2020 01:17 PM (LGXGf)

152 120 So, earlier this morning, a barge hit the brand new bridge spanning Pensacola Bay. This, of course, will be blamed on either global warming or Trump. Maybe both.
Posted by: fly at September 15, 2020 01:12 PM (2M/TV)


Well Duh, math is a white supremacist social construct.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at September 15, 2020 01:17 PM (iediH)

153
The media wet itself yesterday when some California government drone
told Trump that global warming was causing the fires and Trump told him
scientists don't know what they're talking about.

***

Have any of the antifa/pyro arsonists they've arrested changed their name to Global Warming yet?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:17 PM (qlFIA)

154 How many genders does SciAm believe there are?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 15, 2020 01:17 PM (lgiXo)

155 145
15 DAYS TO SLOW THE SPREAD

Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (nUhF0)+++

SCIENCE!

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (9NndL)

156 Scientific American was a great magazine when I was young. It started going bad more than 30 years ago and is now just a mouthpiece for the left.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (9IdCK)

157 I grew up reading Scientific American and gave it up in disgust about 20 years ago after about 50 years as a reader when they started to publish crap. I was a long-time member of AAAS and read Science for several decades, until everything they published seem to have a climate change angle tucked inside. I read New Scientist for about 20 years, and same story. I have heard, and do not doubt it, that any grant app that doesn't include some crap angle about climate change or whatever is the latest scam hasn't got a chance in Hell. Deep State at work.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (/uaBM)

158 The scientific community was right about Ronald Reagan blowing up the world with nuclear weapons, weren't they?

Posted by: CrustyB at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (qXzGC)

159 Get a scientist. Get a scientist.

Posted by: Joey "Two Theories" Biden at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (FF0dF)

160 So the Left cannot grasp the simple concept of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"? Seriously?

Posted by: acethepug at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (qPKAe)

161 145 15 DAYS TO SLOW THE SPREAD
Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (nUhF0)


Leave Sandra Fluke out of this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (Tatvh)

162 Until recently, I thought medical science would be immune to SJW bullshit because to allow it would be simply too evil. OK, so I made a mistake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2020 01:10 PM (+y/Ru)


Another one of those distinctions that make being on this side better.

When one makes a mistake and admits it, everyone says "that's alright," with handshakes all around. Maybe a gentle Bruce Willis tossing a body on the hood of your car to welcome you to the party, but otherwise, all is forgiven and forgotten.

The other side burns you at the stake for daring to be badwrong, even if they have to dig your sins out of decades old social media posts.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (hku12)

163 So, earlier this morning, a barge hit the brand new bridge spanning Pensacola Bay. This, of course, will be blamed on either global warming or Trump. Maybe both.


It followed its Truth.


Not that imperialist GPS.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (oVJmc)

164 74 This actually dovetails nicely with a recent article in the same magazine that asserted we should let go of the notion scientific theories need to be falsifiable. I'm not 100% certain on this without reading the article, but that seems wrong to me on a fundamental level.
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM (wGeit)

It was once commonly accepted that to be considered Scientific, a premise had to be falsifiable. Any concept that was not falsifiable was by definition, Religion.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (Kpl3J)

165 @ALovelle

4h
Replying to
@thehill
With 200k dead and rising and a significant portion of the population denying the very existence of the virus that caused it, tell us something that we don't already know.


These assholes refuse to accept any data that doesn't support their worldview.

These dipshits would deplatform Sir Isaac Newton.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (Bk0np)

166 15 DAYS TO SLOW THE SPREAD
Posted by: vmom 2020 - The Translations of Marcus Aurelius at September 15, 2020 01:16 PM (nUhF0)


Stop complaining and put on your science niqab, citizen.

Posted by: hogmartin at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (t+qrx)

167 I think the 8 month long scam by the Deep State and "men and women of science!!!TM" have finally put people over the top and realize most of what we are told is total bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (RGRr5)

168 C-SPAN:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2q836rw

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (XvwBl)

169 The core of the earth is at one million degrees! - Algore, scientist.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (Tatvh)

170 They are going to come for STEM and Medicine hardcore under the next DEM administration. Outright quotas, alternate examinations and board certifications etc. Just watch. They will not leave those fields alone.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (JRaU+)

171 Flatten the Curve!!

Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (Ed8Zd)

172 Now it is make a theory and force results to match theory. skip steps 3 and 4. Declare you have "consensus."
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 15, 2020 01:17 PM (pw+jk)

Or to put it plainly, "science" has abandoned the Scientific Method, which can only work in an objective reality. It has followed the false light of Subjectivism, where truth is entirely observer-dependent.

Where would we be if Galileo accepted the "consensus" of his day, instead of standing on facts?

Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (hgx/q)

173 Guam: Let's Not Tip Over!

Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:20 PM (Ed8Zd)

174 17
The American Chemical Society is unconcerned about the destruction of R&D in the US chemical industry. But it's obsessed with Diversity, BLM and Womyn in Science. Faugh!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (mht8P)


Yep. I cancelled my membership about 20 years and it was horrific then. I can't imagine what the rag is like now.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 15, 2020 01:20 PM (9IdCK)

175 and a significant portion of the population denying the very existence of the virus that caused it
***

Ok, can we see the study showing 10%+ of the population doesn't believe the Wuhan Flu virus exists?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:20 PM (qlFIA)

176 Scientific American? Fuck that shit!

Posted by: Reddy Kilowatt at September 15, 2020 01:20 PM (+y/Ru)

177 This new learning amazes me, Sir SciAm! Explain again how sheep's bladders may be employed to achieve intersectionality!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 15, 2020 01:20 PM (dfRN6)

178 I wonder when the last time is a scientist worked for Scientific American?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 15, 2020 01:20 PM (MdkVW)

179 you know, since we're on a "science" kick.

I'll note the rash of stories over the last 2 days heralding the discovery of proof of life on Venus because some probe(?) found trace amounts of a gas that can be produced by carbon based lifeforms. THAT is all that is needed to say that there's life.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, actual growing cells, if implanted in a womb, are NOT LIFE, NO MATTER HOW BIG IT GETS. it's just a clump of cells. it's not alive, its not a baby.

someone square that circle for me...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 15, 2020 01:21 PM (8D42x)

180 179 I wonder when the last time is a scientist worked for Scientific American?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 15, 2020 01:20 PM (MdkVW)

When is the last time an American worked for Scientific American?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 15, 2020 01:21 PM (/EuRN)

181 Look at all these dead people.

Do what we say!
Mask off mask on

15 days to bend the curve.
Wait for a vaccine
A vaccine won't stop the restrictions.
Kneel before SCIENCE!
Die quietly nonessenstials.

Posted by: SCIENCE! at September 15, 2020 01:21 PM (9NndL)

182
MOAR FAUCI

"If you're talking about getting back to a degree of normality which resembles where we were prior to COVID, it's going to be well into 2021, maybe even towards the end of 2021," said the director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases on Friday.

A safe and effective vaccine produced this quickly would be a stunning scientific accomplishment that could save thousands of lives. But Fauci warned that widespread distribution and getting "the majority, or more, of the population vaccinated and protected" won't happen until perhaps the end 2021, and therefore means we cannot be free from oppressive lockdown measures until at least that point.



#twoweekstoflattenthecurve

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 15, 2020 01:21 PM (Bk0np)

183 Scientific American was a great magazine when I was young. It started going bad more than 30 years ago and is now just a mouthpiece for the left.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (9IdCK)
------
Conquest's Second Law.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 15, 2020 01:21 PM (Rk6Cp)

184 171 They are going to come for STEM and Medicine hardcore under the next DEM administration. Outright quotas, alternate examinations and board certifications etc. Just watch. They will not leave those fields alone.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (JRaU+)


Sadly, I think you're right.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:21 PM (Tatvh)

185 They are going to come for STEM and Medicine hardcore under the next DEM administration. Outright quotas, alternate examinations and board certifications etc. Just watch. They will not leave those fields alone.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (JRaU+)

And then it will be like the USSR, where everyone is an engineer, but nobody knows how to fix whatever breaks. Empty titles, credentialed idiots LARPing through life.

Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:21 PM (hgx/q)

186 I used to subscribe to Scientific American in the late '70's and into the early '80s.

I got tired of the silly disarmament articles, etc. There was this one guy with a Greek name (forget it now) who was always writing these articles for SA.

It had become too political for me then (almost 40 years ago).
I used to call it after that, "Scientific Communist".

The one that really bothered me was when Military History magazine changed ownership and became really left wing, about 15-20 years ago. It was so bad I canceled the subscription.
The letters to editor were scathing. A lot of long time readers were really pissed about the direction the magazine had taken.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....asymptomatic Moron at September 15, 2020 01:22 PM (vcOmj)

187 "Dog parks are Petri dishes for canine 'rape culture'" by "Helen Wilson" published in May in the journal Gender, Place and Culture.

The article suggests that training men like dogs could reduce cases of sexual abuse.

Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:22 PM (Ed8Zd)

188 I'll note the rash of stories over the last 2 days heralding the
discovery of proof of life on Venus because some probe(?) found trace
amounts of a gas that can be produced by carbon based lifeforms
***

Didn't we find the same thing on Mars?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:22 PM (qlFIA)

189 Yep. I cancelled my membership about 20 years and it was horrific then. I can't imagine what the rag is like now.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 15, 2020 01:20 PM (9IdCK)


I cancelled mine last year.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:22 PM (Tatvh)

190 Well since Bibi's a topic here, need to note that Israel is about to embark on what may be the least excusable unscientific self-mutilation yet with C19 (since the actual science has been confirmed in a massive global-sized live trial since March), imposing another "lockdown" on the country.

It's a lot worse than many here seem to think, who just reduce it to dishonest results-oriented power grabbing substituting for actual science. Many of these people, and most of the dim masses ("elites", especially), actually believe this garbage.

Because they're not very smart, and collapsing standards lower all boats.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (OTzUX)

191 Scientific American = skinsuit

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (Bk0np)

192 Die quietly nonessenstials.
***

Science says grocery store baggers are immune to Wuhan flu, but teachers will die the second they step into a school.

SCIENCE PEOPLE!

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (qlFIA)

193 To have done this for any presidential candidate is bad enough...but for Joe Biden?

(hattip: "A Man for All Seasons")

Posted by: Sweet Lou at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (4DuI9)

194 Another week, another "Muh Institutional Trust" article.

I actually do agree that the shattering of institutional trust is a serious problem. Lots of bad potential when you can't trust anyone in a position of authority. Shit gets weird when that happens. Planning is difficult. Lots of downside.

But I don't bemoan it and I don't pretend to not understand it. Here's a pro tip for the institutions. It's easy to say but difficult to practice: Quit fucking lying about everything. Try being honest even if you don't like it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (hYcqw)

195 Listening to the signing ceremony for the Abraham Accords.

This guy, Donald Trump.

Worst Anti-Semite Ever!

Is there no end to this man's depravity?

Posted by: Sharkman at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (Mo1SD)

196 Real science has never been tried.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (pw+jk)

197 36 Sciam used to be a great publication. Then somewhere around 2000 they got some new editors who dumbed it down considerably and turned it into a me-too version of The Atlantic for global warming cultists. Frankly, it's heartbreaking.
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 15, 2020 01:04 PM (wGeit)


Plus, they fired a guy who wrote one of their most popular columns in the back section because he was an icky Christian. I'll have to look up the details because it was a long time ago.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (9IdCK)

198 Seems like the new talking point is a return to global warming hysteria.

-----

Yep. The last 25 things have not worked so they are trying to see if this one will stick to the wall.

Another hallmark of the cresting blue wave.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (MdkVW)

199 Science? What's that?

Posted by: BLM and Antifa Commissars at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (AMIL/)

200 Your pulse. Ninety eight point six. Most scientific.

Posted by: High Priest of the Scientific People at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (Rk6Cp)

201 72
The 2020 election is literally a matter of life and death. We urge you to vote for health, science and Joe Biden for President.
https://scientificamerican.com/article/scientific-american-endorses-joe-biden/


Man, that is some great SCIENCE!!! right there!

I wonder how they obtained the data?

By reading Goat's Entrails or summoning the All-Powerful God-Frog, Croaky?

Posted by: naturalfake



Look at it from a religious angle. They are worshippers of the Earth. Modern day pagans. They are the 'moral equivalent' of ancient druids and Aztec priests.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (dV48Q)

202 I've never subscribed to Scientific American but I have bought individual issues. I did subscribe to Astronomy for a few years and loved it.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (lgiXo)

203 172 Flatten the Curve!!
Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (Ed8Zd)

(sobs)

Posted by: Brie Larsen at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (Tatvh)

204 Where would we be if Galileo accepted the "consensus" of his day, instead of standing on facts?
Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:19 PM (hgx/q)


By blaming "climate change" on man's activities they are anti Galilean.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (y7DUB)

205 It seems that the less the public knows about any scientific discipline the more important it becomes that they confess their faith in "Science." It's no longer about understanding or knowledge, just about having faith.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (BJKQV)
----------------------------
You nailed it --- clearly, simply, succinctly.
Well said.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (M/9m0)

206 Phrenologists for Biden!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (FTlwv)

207 An eminent physician, Dr. Atlas, was de-platformed yesterday because he did not agree with WHO, which is controlled by China essentially. We are living in Heinlein's Crazy Years, and I don't think even he could imagine the depth of it.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (/uaBM)

208 The Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Kingdom of Bahrain.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (XvwBl)

209 "Dog parks are Petri dishes for canine 'rape culture'" by "Helen Wilson" published in May in the journal Gender, Place and Culture.

The article suggests that training men like dogs could reduce cases of sexual abuse.
Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:22 PM (Ed8Zd)


Wasn't that one of those articles that was published as a stunt to see what they could get past the editors (answer: whatever they wanted, basically)?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (t+qrx)

210 With 200k dead and rising and a significant portion of the population denying the very existence of the virus that caused it, tell us something that we don't already know.

-

It's got to be tough to maintain that pandemic level of terror when six months pass and no one knows anyone who died from it, and very few people know anyone who had more than the sniffles from it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (ySswD)

211
Yep. I cancelled my membership about 20 years and it was horrific then. I can't imagine what the rag is like now.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 15, 2020 01:20 PM (9IdCK)

I cancelled mine last year.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:22 PM (Tatvh)

----------

The reasons I remain a member are 1) I've been one for 42 years and would like to get to 50 and 2) I get 25 free SciFinder searches a year.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (mht8P)

212 Science!! What's not to trust?


Love,

Bill Nye the Science Guy, formerly known as the Speed Walker.

Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (Ed8Zd)

213 Scientific American = skinsuit
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (Bk0np)

Yep. Just like every other institution. The entire framework of society is bring hollowed out and puppeteered by political hacks.

Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (hgx/q)

214 Real science has never been tried.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (pw+jk)


Effin' lol

Posted by: hogmartin at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (t+qrx)

215 Look at it from a religious angle. They are worshippers of the Earth. Modern day pagans. They are the 'moral equivalent' of ancient druids and Aztec priests.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (dV48Q)

This.

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (eIig2)

216 The 2020 election is literally a matter of life and death. We urge you to vote for health, science and Joe Biden for President.
https://scientificamerican.com/article/scientific-american-endorses-joe-biden/


Life and death? Hysterical much?

Oh, and btw, no one cares whom you endorse. No one.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (Tatvh)

217 I wonder if the streets outside the White House are full of lunatics again today.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (XvwBl)

218 "Dog parks are Petri dishes for canine 'rape culture'"

***

What is the racial break down of rapists in America liberals?

Come on, let's talk about that....are women lying or are minority groups more like to commit the crime (per capita)?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (qlFIA)

219 79

The pro-virus college football games have been hilarious.

The referees will stand alone calling the game fully masked, then unmask and gather as a group to discuss what happened after a flag is thrown.

Reporters will stand alone on the sideline fully masked, then unmask and interview a person who removes his mask to talk.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:08 PM

So doing the exact *opposite* of what they should be doing. Why does that not surprise me.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (Do5/p)

220 16 SciAm's gone SJW well before this, didn't they?


Is this a new AGW push? Seems like the new talking point is a return to global warming hysteria.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (oVJmc)

About 35 years ago, when I dropped my subscription.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 15, 2020 01:26 PM (PA57R)

221 Trepanation will unite us!

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 15, 2020 01:26 PM (H5knJ)

222 I get online information from AIHA, the American Industrial Hygeine Association.

There is an online comment board.

A few days ago, one of the members REALLY took the mask wearers to task, and criticized the whole business of wearing masks. She said the ONLY one that really worked was an N95 mask (without a vent) that also had fabric mask over it.
The other "Commenters" went to the fainting couches over her "tone", but was amused that NO ONE actually refuted what she wrote.

Science. Whatever.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....asymptomatic Moron at September 15, 2020 01:26 PM (vcOmj)

223 Didn't we find the same thing on Mars?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:22 PM (qlFIA)

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Mars and Venus temperature variations have nothing in common with Earth's, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:26 PM (ySswD)

224 Funny that really, really deep pockets keep buying center and center-right publications, web sites, "journalists", sports franchises, brands, and turning all of that into Left skinsuits. And yet, Donald Trump is still president. Thank God.

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2020 01:26 PM (Pqytn)

225 The 2020 election is literally a matter of life and death. We urge you to vote for health, science and Joe Biden for President.

***

In fairness they can't keep fundamentally changing you against your will if they don't get back in power...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:26 PM (qlFIA)

226 Our "Brave New World" will be the bravery of those who use machines created and maintained by those unqualified to for such jobs.

Yay us.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 15, 2020 01:26 PM (WEBkv)

227 The reasons I remain a member are 1) I've been one for 42 years and would like to get to 50 and 2) I get 25 free SciFinder searches a year.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (mht8P)


I thought about 50 as well, which I was close to, but decided "fuggit."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:26 PM (Tatvh)

228 The halls of science have long been filled with obsequious sycophants and political ax-grinders - said lackwits are the reason why Darwinism and string theory are still taken seriously, challenges to the Correct Opinion are suppressed and squeezed out.


Recommended reading for the state of the scientific community in this era...


The Trouble with Physics by Lee Smolin

Lost in Math by Sabine Hossenfelder

The Devil's Delusion and The Deniable Darwin by David Berlinski

Signature in the Cell and Darwin's Doubt by Stephen Meyer

Farewell to Reality by Jim Baggot


I'm rather certain that Hossenfelder and Baggot would object, Baggot rather virulently, to being included in a reading list featuring names from the Discovery Institute, but these books, taken together, offer an interesting panorama of the state of mind that "reputable" scientists operate in nowadays; and indeed, for a good long while before now, too.


Good reads, especially Berlinski, whose wit (and tongue) is sharper than a monomolecular wire.


Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 15, 2020 01:26 PM (6JL3d)

229 The most annoying thing in that thread at twitter from scientific american is the idiots spouting "Science is about finding the Truth"

No, you fucking retards, it isn't.
As my very first genetics professor said at the very beginning of our first lecture, "Science is about the search for facts. If you want truth, go take a philosophy or a theology course."

Posted by: Gman at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (GfWuY)

230 Life and death? Hysterical much?

Oh, and btw, no one cares whom you endorse. No one.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (Tatvh)

Yet one more iteration of the "Vote For Biden or We Kill This Dog!" theme.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (/EuRN)

231 172
Flatten the Curve!!

you want to see the future? imagine a boot flattening the curve forever!

Posted by: Anachronda at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (sGtp+)

232 So there's a bunch of Scientific American articles from December and January talking about what needs to be done about COVID, right? Stuff that Trump didn't do? There must be.

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (842IN)

233 Over the past six months people have had "science" and "Covid" rubbed in their faces, they couldn't ignore any of that if they tried. And all that has been demonstrated is that the experts contradict themselves all of the time and that government is using the crisis to try on their South American field marshal's uniforms.

Other than that, I can't see why trust would go down.
Baffling, really.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Fall Frenzies are In at The Outrage Outlet! at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (mSgQG)

234 What we need is a good name for the little roundels of dust that build up on the contact points of a trackball.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (Rk6Cp)

235 Nic changing clown troll = fag

The science is settled.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (hku12)

236 I don't know, maybe because the Left is doing everything they can to turn science from a method of how to explain things into a fiercely dogmatic religion?

The people run around shrieking about "climate deniers"(who denies climate exists?) and how we MUST all wear masks, AT GUNPOINT IF NECESSARY are people who demand science become dogma, at which point science dies.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (SSJSf)

237 Can't wait until they bring back phrenology, trepanning and rediscover canals on Mars.

Posted by: some guy out west at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (XpDOS)

238 219 I wonder if the streets outside the White House are full of lunatics again today.
Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (XvwBl

Wasn't the "50 Days or Occupation" supposed to start yesterday? Or was it today?

Posted by: Fox2! at September 15, 2020 01:28 PM (PA57R)

239 "171 They are going to come for STEM and Medicine hardcore under the next DEM administration. Outright quotas, alternate examinations and board certifications etc. Just watch. They will not leave those fields alone."

People will die. Not necessarily the right people.

Posted by: Igotnothing at September 15, 2020 01:28 PM (xf2hT)

240 So doing the exact *opposite* of what they should be doing. Why does that not surprise me.
***

There is *NO* asymptomatic spread.


Once you understand that you understand why people are doing the things they are doing from Fauci to Pelosi.

So taking public transit when the random person next to you might cough on you? Bad idea.


Huddling with people you know, or at least have taken the temperature of? Who cares.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:28 PM (qlFIA)

241 If you ask a lefty why protests are okay during a pandemic... they will say that it's okay because everyone wears masks. Of course nobody could possibly know if these protestors are always wearing a mask or how many of them actually are because none of them get arrested for anything.

I then will ask this lefty if protesting wearing a mask is okay - why not playing a football game in a stadium if everyone wears a mask? How about church? How about a gym?

If masks are the "cure" why not allow these large "super spreader" events with the same enforcement as a protest (ie none).

Posted by: RealityMan at September 15, 2020 01:28 PM (xOBRH)

242 The article suggests that training men like dogs could reduce cases of sexual abuse.
Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:22 PM


I can cosplay Fido. Yes, I can do that. Sign me up!

Posted by: Beto ! at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (786Ro)

243 By reading Goat's Entrails or summoning the All-Powerful God-Frog, Croaky?
Posted by: naturalfake


Sic transit gloria. * croak *

Posted by: Pepe The Frog at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (DMUuz)

244 It was once commonly accepted that to be considered Scientific, a premise had to be falsifiable. Any concept that was not falsifiable was by definition, Religion.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:18 PM (Kpl3J)

Open your Book of Science to Nye 23:40.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (iediH)

245 What's happening right now at the White House is incredible.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)

246 It's just a clump of cells, but we must cut its vocal cords, so it doesn't scream when we go to kill it.

Posted by: Sciencey Science at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (hku12)

247 I get online information from AIHA, the American Industrial Hygeine Association.

There is an online comment board.

-

OSHA requires employers to monitor pulmonary baselines and annual testing for employees who are required to wear face masks like N95s in the workplace.

The same OSHA recently released a statement saying that employers who require face masks made of clear plastic and pieces of neoprene are perfectly safe and no workplace monitoring is required.

SCINS!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (ySswD)

248 "Dog parks are Petri dishes for canine 'rape culture'" by "Helen Wilson" published in May in the journal Gender, Place and Culture.

The article suggests that training men like dogs could reduce cases of sexual abuse.
Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:22 PM (Ed8Zd)

Wasn't that one of those articles that was published as a stunt to see what they could get past the editors (answer: whatever they wanted, basically)?
Posted by: hogmartin at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (t+qrx)

Yes by y Helenb Pluckrose and 2 others. It was one of the best and 7 similarly ludicrous "studies" were accepted for publication.

A nice blurb:

Dog parks are microcosms where hegemonic masculinist norms governing queering behavior and compulsory heterosexuality can be observed in a cross-species environment. They are thusly oppressive spaces that lock both humans and animals into hegemonic patterns of gender conformity that effectively resist bids for emancipatory change.

Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (Ed8Zd)

249 Scientific American supports fingering subordinate women against their will. It's Science!!!

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (842IN)

250 It's a century-plus communist insurrection coming to fruition.

Plan accordingly ...

Posted by: ShainS at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (WqPYg)

251 Good reads, especially Berlinski, whose wit (and tongue) is sharper than a monomolecular wire.


Posted by: Kinley Ardal

And never forget that tireless fun read, The Journal of Irreproducible Results. The JIR.

I don't know if it is still published, but I do have a hardbound book with a lot of the articles in it. Some people spent a lot of time and had fun ginning up some of that stuff.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....asymptomatic Moron at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (vcOmj)

252 238 219 I wonder if the streets outside the White House are full of lunatics again today.
Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (XvwBl

Wasn't the "50 Days or Occupation" supposed to start yesterday? Or was it today?
Posted by: Fox2! at September 15, 2020 01:28 PM (PA57R)

I'm seeing the 17th as the start date online.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (XvwBl)

253 If the woods weren't so dry the arsonists would be foiled.

Posted by: Remarkably Unremarkable at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (Jw2qQ)

254 Q - How do you know she's a witch?

A - She looks like one.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (UixLE)

255 198 Real science has never been tried.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (pw+jk)


If all science since some homo sapiens walked out of Africa had been done per the methodology today's Leftists embrace, we'd still be in the Stone Age.

Posted by: Gref at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (AMIL/)

256 What's happening right now at the White House is incredible.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)


What is happening right now at the White House?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (t+qrx)

257 Even the sexy dance troupe of 11-year-old boys twerking in my quarantine beard to audition for roles in the gender-swapped sequel to "Cuties" being jointly produced by the Bulwark and the Dispatch can see that the attack on science by Donald Trump evidenced for example in the hundreds of thousands of Americans killed by his ignorant mishandling of the coronavirus pandemic has spread among many of his cultish followers, accounting for the results of this latest poll.

When one side rejects science itself then we lack even a framework in which we can have a meaningful exchange of views. That is why my advice to Joe Biden is to refuse to debate the science denier Trump.

By doing so, Biden would be taking the bravest stand for science since Galileo. Yes, fascist anti-science Trumpists would likely respond with violence, as we have seen in Kenosha and so many other places around the country. But it just might be the candle that once lit would lead the world out of this ever-deepening Trump Dark Age.

By the way Joe, if you continue to ignore my advice on strategy I shan't be responsible for the outcome and shall return to my fan fiction writing project integrating Din Djarin and Baby Yoda into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Fair warning!

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (dMyj7)

258 Now might be the time to reread Fallen Angels by Pournelle et al.

Posted by: some guy out west at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (XpDOS)

259 17
The American Chemical Society is unconcerned about the destruction of R&D in the US chemical industry. But it's obsessed with Diversity, BLM and Womyn in Science. Faugh!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 15, 2020 01:00 PM (mht8P)

Oh, let me guess: they are extremely upset that there aren't "enough" girls into chemical engineering?

(Notice the people who are so upset about how there aren't enough girls pursuing STEM fields never tell us what the quota is: that is, how many is enough?)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (SSJSf)

260
Scientific American supports fingering subordinate women against their will. It's Science!!!

___

Look fat, if a broad doesn't want your fingers to do the walking she doesn't wear a short skirt to work.



Posted by: Joe Biden at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (qlFIA)

261 On the bright side, when is the last time you heard anything about nuclear winter?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (+y/Ru)

262 Mandarin or Cantonese.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (D2I2k)

263 Biden actually called Trump a climate arsonist. WTF is that? My God these people are really going to deserve what they get during CW 2.

Posted by: Eli Cash at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (67sg6)

264 "219 I wonder if the streets outside the White House are full of lunatics again today.
Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:25 PM (XvwBl("


Just a handful of Palestinian anti-Semites are far as I could tell by the videos I've seen. Pathetically small crowd.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (4thlk)

265 Look at it from a religious angle. They are worshippers of the Earth. Modern day pagans. They are the 'moral equivalent' of ancient druids and Aztec priests.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (dV48Q)

I've made the case that it's a religion before.

They have a deity (Gaia)
Invincible Dogma (Human activity is globally significant)
Prophets (Gore, Greta)
Priesthood (Consensus "scientists")
Holy Orders (Everything from Sierra Club to ELF)
Holidays (Earth Day)
Rituals (Earth Hour)
Sin (Pollution)
Sinners (Industrialists, you)
Apostates (Skeptical scientists)
Original Sin (CO2 - you exhale it)
An Apocalypse (Earth becomes Venus)
And Indulgences (Carbon Credits)

It has every aspect of a religion.

Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (hgx/q)

266 Earth could use a few million of those Venus women from Hollywood B movies from of 50's

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (ROLxQ)

267 I don't know, maybe because the Left is doing everything they can to turn science from a method of how to explain things into a fiercely dogmatic religion?

The people run around shrieking about "climate deniers"(who denies climate exists?) and how we MUST all wear masks, AT GUNPOINT IF NECESSARY are people who demand science become dogma, at which point science dies.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (SSJSf)


Maybe?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (hku12)

268 Photo ops for eternity!

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (XvwBl)

269 256 What's happening right now at the White House is incredible.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)

What is happening right now at the White House?
Posted by: hogmartin at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (t+qrx)

The mind boggles at the possibilities.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (Kpl3J)

270 I can cosplay Fido. Yes, I can do that. Sign me up!
Posted by: Beto ! at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM


Shouldn't you be prepping for your Gun Czar duties?

Posted by: Moms Against Everything at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (DMUuz)

271 How do you know she's a witch
***

Are we talking Christine O'Donnell or Marina Abramovic?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (qlFIA)

272 207 It seems that the less the public knows about any scientific discipline the more important it becomes that they confess their faith in "Science." It's no longer about understanding or knowledge, just about having faith.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 15, 2020 01:14 PM (BJKQV)
----------------------------
You nailed it --- clearly, simply, succinctly.
Well said.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (M/9m0)


Agreed. Kudos. A lot of people fail to grasp that, far from consensus reigning triumphant, controversies periodically rage in scientific circles.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (Tatvh)

273 Much like the old socialist axiom, that which is not necessary is illegal, that which is necessary is mandatory.

Either an institution exists and aids socialists to gain and/or maintain power. Or it needs to be destroyed. Socialists will target any and all institutions for one of those fates, destruction or coopting into the socialist totalitarianism.

There is no reality beyond the state, not art, not science, not history, nothing. It ei5er becomes part of the the state or it gets destroyed.

Posted by: mikethemoose at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (Y6UV7)

274 >>What is happening right now at the White House?

Israel, the UAE and Bahrain are signing a peace treaty. The first peace treaty in the Middle East in 26 years and there are more coming.

I gotta admit, I didn't see this one coming in 2016.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (ZLI7S)

275 What's happening right now at the White House is incredible.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)


This truly is a big F'*ing Deal!!!

Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (Ed8Zd)

276 It's a scientific fact, Jack, that everyone knows when you see the skirt, the fingers, no bones about it fat and then, you know, the thing.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (67sg6)

277 The most annoying thing in that thread at twitter
from scientific american is the idiots spouting "Science is about
finding the Truth"



No, you fucking retards, it isn't.

As my very first genetics professor said at the very beginning of our first lecture, "Science is about the search for facts. If you want truth, go take a philosophy or a theology course."

Posted by: Gman at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (GfWuY)


It's hard for a scientist to not segue into cosmology, which feels like a natural follow-up for many of them.

Trouble is, if your premises are faulty, your conclusions will more than likely be wrong. So it goes with the "I Fucking Love Science" crowd, the majority of whom have likely not opened a scientific or philosophical treatise in their entire adult lives.



Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (6JL3d)

278
C-SPAN:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2q836rw

President Trump and first lady Melania participate in an Abraham Accord signing between Israel and the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (XvwBl)

279 "With 200k dead and rising and a significant portion of the population denying the very existence of the virus that caused it, tell us something that we don't already know."

Can everyone see the red herring clearly?

They lie even about lies.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (HhXSr)

280 Q - What also floats in water?

A - Very small stones.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (UixLE)

281 236 I don't know, maybe because the Left is doing everything they can to turn science from a method of how to explain things into a fiercely dogmatic religion?

The people run around shrieking about "climate deniers"(who denies climate exists?) and how we MUST all wear masks, AT GUNPOINT IF NECESSARY are people who demand science become dogma, at which point science dies.

America can't have both critical race theory and falsifiability. Something had to go.

Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (iediH)

282 Israel, the UAE and Bahrain are signing a peace treaty. The first peace
treaty in the Middle East in 26 years and there are more coming.

***

Remember when the left told us Trump was going to start wars all over the globe for the hell of it?

WORST HITLER EVER

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (qlFIA)

283 What's happening right now at the White House is incredible.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)

What is happening right now at the White House?
Posted by: hogmartin at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (t+qrx)


I just assumed Melania was changing her girdle in front of the bathroom window.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (hku12)

284 Oh look far left takes over something then politicizes it, how historic!

Posted by: Drew in MO at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (cGlgB)

285 Until recently, I thought medical science would be immune to SJW bullshit because to allow it would be simply too evil. OK, so I made a mistake.

The Tuskegee Syphillis Experiment was "progressive" science. So was eugenics.

Doctors are people, and so susceptible to all our failures.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (naEeR)

286 267 I don't know, maybe because the Left is doing everything they can to turn science from a method of how to explain things into a fiercely dogmatic religion?

The people run around shrieking about "climate deniers"(who denies climate exists?) and how we MUST all wear masks, AT GUNPOINT IF NECESSARY are people who demand science become dogma, at which point science dies.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:27 PM (SSJSf)

Maybe?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (hku12)

Over at WUWT and other places where we've been watching this for awhile, we refer to the new movement as "Scientism", which is a Pseudo-Religious reliance on things that it's adherents consider "Sciency", combined with a complete lack of the most basic understanding about what Logic and Science actually are.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (Kpl3J)

287 What's happening right now at the White House is incredible.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)


Trump walked outside an just took a piss on the plants Moochelle had planted in the garden.

Posted by: Roy at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (Ti+Tv)

288 Joe will have a Scientologist for science advisor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (63Dwl)

289 @KatiePavlich 5m

Right on cue, Palestinian terrorists are launching rockets from Gaza into Israel while the UAE, Bahrain, Israel and the United States sign a historic peace agreement at the White House. #AbrahamAccords

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (cF8AT)

290 Another book for recalling how human and political "science" can always be - The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Thomas Kuhn. Was all the rage with political sciencey types back in the day, but has valuable insights.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (OTzUX)

291 The Abraham Accords!

And I lived to see it. (Getting choked up here)

Posted by: itsacookbook at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (yPxXc)

292 Thank goodness Vice President Biden's tireless work in the middle east is finally being settled under this bumbling fool's administration.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (ySswD)

293

Second look at "billions and billions of years?"

Posted by: TeeJ at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (PXKj8)

294 They're joking around, saying, is there where I sign this? I need help with the translation.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (XvwBl)

295 Actual headline from the Independent (via Yahoo News):

"White House denies clash with Israel over soical distancing and masks at peace summit"

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (Pqytn)

296 I've made the case that it's a religion before.

They have a deity (Gaia)
Invincible Dogma (Human activity is globally significant)
Prophets (Gore, Greta)
Priesthood (Consensus "scientists")
Holy Orders (Everything from Sierra Club to ELF)
Holidays (Earth Day)
Rituals (Earth Hour)
Sin (Pollution)
Sinners (Industrialists, you)
Apostates (Skeptical scientists)
Original Sin (CO2 - you exhale it)
An Apocalypse (Earth becomes Venus)
And Indulgences (Carbon Credits)

It has every aspect of a religion.
Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM


What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Clerisy at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (DMUuz)

297 "literally a matter of life and death"

As opposed to say...1940 or 44. Or the Vietnam years. Or the War on Terror years.

Eff you, lying, mentally unbalanced hacks.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (B+qrE)

298 I misspelled "social" in #295

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (Pqytn)

299 "Those peace treaties are gonna start World War III" - CNN and the Derpers.

Posted by: Roy at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (Ti+Tv)

300 We're closing on 6 months since the time that I was considered a free citizen....

I haven't worn a mask around my elderly mother-in-law, and she hasn't kicked the bucket. So, I'm pretty sure I don't have it.

So, everytime I wear a mask, I provide the people around me 0 protection. Because if I can't even kill the elderly person I see the most, how am I going to kill your grandma?

... And I'll never catch up to Twitmer and Cullmo anyway....

Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (Eicbe)

301 I just scienced in my pants!

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (FF0dF)

302 What's happening right now at the White House is incredible.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)

What is happening right now at the White House?
Posted by: hogmartin

Melania is twerking in a tight leather mini-skirt.

No, that's just a joke, kids.

Stop it, now.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....asymptomatic Moron at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (vcOmj)

303 no shit.

remember #two weeks to flatten the curve?

remember 2 1/2 MILLION AMERICANS DEAD

remember masks don't work, oh wait, they do. oh wait, but not against smoke. but against a tiny virus.

and remember social justice is a health issue.

fuck these fucktards. I don't believe anything but my eyes. our hospitals are not full of COVID patients and deaths are being fabricated to keep us locked down.

fuck them. just fuck them all to hell

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (W2Pud)

304 Once trust is lost, it is rarely regained.

Fortunately for these "institutions," many of them have the government behind them and the government has the monopoly on force, so they don't give a shit if you trust them or not. They'll just kill you and your dog too.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (vg8iE)

305 I don't know if it is still published, but I do have a hardbound book with a lot of the articles in it. Some people spent a lot of time and had fun ginning up some of that stuff.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....asymptomatic Moron at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (vcOmj)
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I've got that. Articles like "Preparation of Pure Crap" and "National Geographic: The Doomsday Machine".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (Rk6Cp)

306 Trouble is, if your premises are faulty, your conclusions will more than likely be wrong. So it goes with the "I Fucking Love Science" crowd, the majority of whom have likely not opened a scientific or philosophical treatise in their entire adult lives.
Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (6JL3d)

The great irony is that the Truth of their situation is that "They Love Fucking Science".

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (Kpl3J)

307 It's a beautiful thing.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (XvwBl)

308 265 Look at it from a religious angle. They are worshippers of the Earth. Modern day pagans. They are the 'moral equivalent' of ancient druids and Aztec priests.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (dV48Q)

I've made the case that it's a religion before.

They have a deity (Gaia)
Invincible Dogma (Human activity is globally significant)
Prophets (Gore, Greta)
Priesthood (Consensus "scientists")
Holy Orders (Everything from Sierra Club to ELF)
Holidays (Earth Day)
Rituals (Earth Hour)
Sin (Pollution)
Sinners (Industrialists, you)
Apostates (Skeptical scientists)
Original Sin (CO2 - you exhale it)
An Apocalypse (Earth becomes Venus)
And Indulgences (Carbon Credits)

It has every aspect of a religion.

Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (hgx/q)


This is GOOD. You should copyright it and sell posters.

Posted by: Gref at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (AMIL/)

309 What is happening right now at the White House?
"well Jim, we see what looks like a wooden scaffold on the South Lawn, with what looks like several loop handles made from rope, sort of like a Crossfit pullup station fitted for about a dozen people maybe? "



" And oh! look Brennan , Clapper and Comey are walking across the lawn wearing what looks like black jumpsuits..."

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (Bk0np)

310 289 @KatiePavlich 5m

Right on cue, Palestinian terrorists are launching rockets from Gaza into Israel while the UAE, Bahrain, Israel and the United States sign a historic peace agreement at the White House. #AbrahamAccords
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Did they join up with BLM? Will they shit on and burn down their own cities? Cuz, that's called WINNING!

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (UixLE)

311 (turns on ABC, CBS, and NBC to see if they're covering the peace deal)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (ySswD)

312 289 @KatiePavlich 5m

Right on cue, Palestinian terrorists are launching rockets from Gaza into Israel while the UAE, Bahrain, Israel and the United States sign a historic peace agreement at the White House. #AbrahamAccords
Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (cF8AT)

============

"What actions can we take to make us MORE irrelevant in the minds of the Arab states?"
-Palestine

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (UWqZJ)

313 Speaking of science, one traditional way to test out a theory is to run it through multiple experiments and see what happens.


So, for example, if various US states lock down hard, others somewhat, and a few not at all you can compare over time the amount of money spent and what effect it has had on deaths from the virus.

And we have that - the harder a state locked down the more deaths it got, the more jobs it lost, and the more money it spent.


Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (qlFIA)

314 Not a single word on the WSJ about Trump signing the historic Middle East agreements at the White House.

Not a single word.

We have been seeking this kind of peace for years, and Trump did it in less than four.

But no coverage.

You want to know why nobody trusts the media and loathes them? Reason #5,876.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (VpIIl)

315 The palis are celebrating peace with MOAR MISSILES FROM GAZA!

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2020 01:36 PM (y7DUB)

316 301 I just scienced in my pants!
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (FF0dF)

A valid experiment is repeatable, Joe.

Posted by: Roy at September 15, 2020 01:36 PM (Ti+Tv)

317 And never forget that tireless fun read, The Journal of Irreproducible Results. The JIR.

I don't know if it is still published, but I do have a hardbound book with a lot of the articles in it. Some people spent a lot of time and had fun ginning up some of that stuff.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....asymptomatic Moron at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (vcOmj)


I've just ordered a paperback copy, I have a feeling I'm going to enjoy that book.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 15, 2020 01:36 PM (6JL3d)

318 All of Western Civilization needs to be expunged, and that includes medicine.

On the bright side, your socialized medicine plan will cover the new paradigm, witch doctors.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 15, 2020 01:36 PM (kA3Cp)

319 Oh, let me guess: they are extremely upset that there aren't "enough" girls into chemical engineering?

(Notice the people who are so upset about how there aren't enough girls pursuing STEM fields never tell us what the quota is: that is, how many is enough?)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (SSJSf)


You got it in one. Chemistry and chemical engineering. The tenor of the articles these silly girls write for C&EN is all the impediments women face attempting to go into the field. Impediments? Really?

It's not hard to guess that these gals washed out of grad school and are bitter about it. But women face zero impediments on going into chemistry, and have actual inducements to go into research.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:36 PM (Tatvh)

320 Poseurs, sneering braggarts and unconscionable snobs.

The scientific community like to preen that they are rational, empirical, 'just the facts, ma'am', straight shooters who will brook no fluff or emotional nonsense and look down their noses at the ignorant Hoi polloi in a way that would make a French aristocrat blush
. But look how they they scream, wail, curse, throw the toys out of their pram and generally go full toddler rage if any of their number steps away from their orthodoxy, or 'settled science' if you will.

That's not to say that anyone who questions them is always right, far from it.
But their first recourse in rebuffing counter arguments is always abuse, name-calling and whisper campaigns rather than explaining why their adversary is wrong with facts and ...oh that other thing they say they love but tend not to bother with much nowadays...oh yes...science, that's the one.

Of course on the rare occasions they don't browbeat dissenters to silence and the dissenters are proved correct - and it looks like proponents of the 'Younger Dryas impact theory' are currently winning their argument as a recent example - then of course it's all backsliding and backslapping and "Of course I knew you were right all along, dear boy". Especially when lucrative scientific prizes and tenures hove into view.


And I haven't even mentioned their unfortunate and usually disastrous forays into political matters.

Posted by: Sir Ian Botham at September 15, 2020 01:36 PM (HTb6j)

321 So in the daytime you keep America's missiles humming and at night you are politically retarded.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 15, 2020 01:36 PM (pB6Gt)

322 Pretty interesting to watch one once-respected entity and institution after another trip over itself to declare its abject idiocy. What a time this is.

My brother was a brainiac and I remember how much he looked forward to his Scientific American in the mail.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 15, 2020 01:36 PM (H8QX8)

323 Totally ignored by the media, very early in his term Trump and the King of SA hosted a meeting with the leaders of every Muslim nation except for Iran and Syria. There is film of Trump's address in which he laid down all the foundations for what is happening now. It was incredible. His Jewish daughter and Jared were sitting right front and center. Totally ignored, just as Trump's book, Crippled America, in which he spelled out his whole plan to MAGA. I have never met anyone who was even aware of the book's existence. Deep State is real, folks.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (/uaBM)

324 Q - What also floats in water?

A - Very small stones.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM


A duck!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (ejd/p)

325 Remember those things when anyone says "How come America is the only country which opposes the Paris accord? It's like asking "how come the sheep is the only one who feels uncomfortable going to the Wolf's Banquet?"
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:09 PM (Kpl3J)

Hmm, I don't know, maybe because the only country punished in the Paris Accords is the United States?

I'd almost buy global warming as a legitimate theory if not for clearly punitive, anti-capitalist things like the Kyoto Protocol and the Paris Accords. Those things convinced me that this is nothing more than anti-capitalist bullshit.

The religiosity of the true believers is also quite off-putting. If your theory is so iron-clad, the debate NEVER ends, and oh by the way, it won't require marketing either (why did "global warming : become "climate change"? Climate ALWAYS changes; if it didn't, why are average temps update every ten years, covering periods going back 30 years?)

P.S. There are advertisements on TV for some organization called "Amazon". Is that like the new Sierra Club, or is there something they legitimately do?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (SSJSf)

326 "What actions can we take to make us MORE irrelevant in the minds of the Arab states?"
-Palestine
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (UWqZJ)

Blow themselves up some more?

Posted by: Roy at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (Ti+Tv)

327 I will listen to a scientific explanation, even if I think they are wrong.

I am, however, tired of their bullshit.

Posted by: tbodie at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (0jR9T)

328 "With 200k dead and rising and a significant portion of the population denying the very existence of the virus that caused it, tell us something that we don't already know."
-------------------
Can everyone see the red herring clearly?

They lie even about lies.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (HhXSr)


I'm not gonna lie though. I'm sorta waiting for the China science lady who says she has proof this thing was altered in Wuwu lab and deliberately released before I decide it's a virus and not some sort of lab created chimera.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (hku12)

329 Just a handful of Palestinian anti-Semites are far as I could tell by the videos I've seen. Pathetically small crowd.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (4thlk)

More like a gloriously small crowd! What a day.

Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (Ed8Zd)

330 312 289 @KatiePavlich 5m

Right on cue, Palestinian terrorists are launching rockets from Gaza into Israel while the UAE, Bahrain, Israel and the United States sign a historic peace agreement at the White House. #AbrahamAccords
Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (cF8AT)

============

"What actions can we take to make us MORE irrelevant in the minds of the Arab states?"
-Palestine
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (UWqZJ)

True.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (XvwBl)

331 I hope they catch that little midget fucker that shot those cops in LA and he gets ventilated.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (aOdFB)

332 This is what we get when leftists make high school graduates worse than 1st graders and college graduates about at a fourth grade level. These graduates will buy into anything to pretend that they are not what they are... STUPID AND IGNORANT about everything.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (pw+jk)

333 Ask the "I Fucking Love Science" crowd how the electricity that powers their iPhone gets to the outlet in their wall.


I promise you it is fun....

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (qlFIA)

334 There's fair number of yard signs in my neighborhood that say something like, "In this house, we believe: BLM, etc., etc., Science is Real, etc., etc." Always wanted to ask how they square believing in "Science" and BLM's critical race theory view that "Science" is a socially constructed tool of white supremacy. I guess, that struggle session comes later and we'll know which Wine Moms are really paying attention to the social cues when the yard signs pop up, "In this house, we believe: whatever it is that lady that wrote 'White Fragility' wants us to say we believe".

Posted by: Remember the post office panic from like three weeks ago, what happened to that? at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (dYe5S)

335
someone square that circle for me...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 15, 2020 01:21 PM (8D42x)

They square it by saying it's not "human".

Even though 100% of the ones that survive are you know, human.

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (842IN)

336 I feel so old.

I remember a time when we used to be able to laugh at the Soviet Union for Lysenkoism.

Now it's more like "Lysenkoism? Hold my beer!"

Sadly, I realize it wasn't all that great, even way back. As others have observed, we had the "Nuclear Winter" concept. Basically, it was on the same scientific level as "climate change".

It's worth noting that Ayn Rand had this figured out WAY back, in the 1940s. In Atlas Shrugged, the scientific establishment provides an obstacle for a new invention ("Reardon metal"), without any actual scientific justification.

Posted by: Optimizer at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (hOOi9)

337 240

There is *NO* asymptomatic spread.

Once you understand that you understand why people are doing the things they are doing from Fauci to Pelosi.

So taking public transit when the random person next to you might cough on you? Bad idea.

Huddling with people you know, or at least have taken the temperature of? Who cares.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:28 PM

Yeah, I just meant if they were trying to follow the Left's scaremongering rules.

The fact is, no one at a football game should need to wear a mask at all whether they are on the sidelines alone or within 6' of someone giving and interview. Because, if I understand it correctly, everyone allowed into the stadium was tested and tested negative. So, there's no risk. So no need for masks at all.

So the only reason they are wearing them is not for "science" or "safety", but to virtue-signal to the TV audience or to show people watching the game that *they* should be wearing masks, because "see, we're wearing masks, so you should too!"

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (Do5/p)

338 I subscribed to Scientific American as a youth in the 70s. When I was in HS, I ended up on our school's math team, and it was a monthly ritual to read Martin Gardner's math column in the magazine. My interest in SA waned as he retired from the mag, and the leftward tilt of SA didn't do anything to make me regret my decision.

What has happened to SA, and to science in general, is a tragedy.

I'm currently reading A Brief History of Disease, Science and Medicine by Michael T. Kennedy MD (a Moron author!), and it's wonderful. The centuries of superstition and pseudoscience did a lot to stifle technical progress, and kill a lot of people in the meantime. Kennedy's book documents a lot of these missteps in scientific understanding.

After science has made the world worth living in healthily, especially in the last 150 years, it's tragic that leftist pseudoscience, starting with the movement to ban DDT, is doing so much to plunge us back into those dark ages.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (6xA3t)

339 I've made the case that it's a religion before.

They have a deity (Gaia)
Invincible Dogma (Human activity is globally significant)
Prophets (Gore, Greta)
Priesthood (Consensus "scientists")
Holy Orders (Everything from Sierra Club to ELF)
Holidays (Earth Day)
Rituals (Earth Hour)
Sin (Pollution)
Sinners (Industrialists, you)
Apostates (Skeptical scientists)
Original Sin (CO2 - you exhale it)
An Apocalypse (Earth becomes Venus)
And Indulgences (Carbon Credits)

It has every aspect of a religion.
Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (hgx/q)


I'm stealing that just like I stole the line about how a salon in SF has better security than Epstein's jail cell

Posted by: Buzzion at September 15, 2020 01:38 PM (2fGCR)

340 Trump: I received an award from The bay of Pigs veterans.

The MFM: Trump lied, there is no such award.

Trump: Here's a picture of me receiving the award.

The MFM: That's not an award.

The Bay of Pigs Veterans: Um, yes, it is in fact an award.

The MFM: Trump lied!!!!!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 15, 2020 01:38 PM (jbF6h)

341 "What does a business owner do when his business plan fails and he starts getting in a hole? He starts to cook the books. "

Christopher Chantrill at American Thinker made that reprehensible reference in today's article,
"Hey Democrats, What's the Strategy?".

Posted by: Braenyard at September 15, 2020 01:38 PM (9rYNN)

342
Trouble is, if your premises are faulty, your conclusions will more than likely be wrong. So it goes with the "I Fucking Love Science" crowd, the majority of whom have likely not opened a scientific or philosophical treatise in their entire adult lives.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (6JL3d)
---------------

Almost all lefties never examine the premises upon which their assumptions are built.

And, no matter how many times the flaws in their foundation is pointed out, they'll hand wave it away as "meaningless."

Then, once things crumble, they wail and say, "We didn't know."

While those who died from lefty "intentions" silently scream, "We warned you, but you wouldn't listen!"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 15, 2020 01:38 PM (WEBkv)

343 Joe eats Science Diet.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 15, 2020 01:38 PM (63Dwl)

344 @KatiePavlich 5m



Right on cue, Palestinian terrorists are launching rockets from Gaza
into Israel while the UAE, Bahrain, Israel and the United States sign a
historic peace agreement at the White House. #AbrahamAccords


Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (cF8AT)




Someone should keep an eye on Bro Fo.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 15, 2020 01:38 PM (xaa8Q)

345 Academia corrupted the scientific process by relying on publications for tenure. Journals only publish original and positive findings. Incentive for professors to fake data almost overwhelming.

Posted by: iandeal at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (5e/k8)

346 These men look thrilled. God bless Pres. Trump.

Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (Ed8Zd)

347 Right on cue, Palestinian terrorists are launching
rockets from Gaza into Israel while the UAE, Bahrain, Israel and the
United States sign a historic peace agreement at the White House.
#AbrahamAccords

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (cF8AT)

They are rocketing into irrelevancy, and there is nothing they can do about it except agree to peace with Israel.

And they will never do that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (xT2tT)

348 295 Actual headline from the Independent (via Yahoo News):

"White House denies clash with Israel over soical distancing and masks at peace summit"
Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM (Pqytn)


The Independent is a communist rag just like the Guardian.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (Tatvh)

349 "What actions can we take to make us MORE irrelevant in the minds of the Arab states?"
-Palestine

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (UWqZJ)

"I know....let's lob some rockets at Israel! Yeah, that'll work!"

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (cF8AT)

350 With 200k dead and rising and a significant portion of the population denying the very existence of the virus that caused it, tell us something that we don't already know.

-

It's got to be tough to maintain that pandemic level of terror when six months pass and no one knows anyone who died from it, and very few people know anyone who had more than the sniffles from it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie


Guy gets killed riding a donor cycle and because he maybe tested at one time in his life for Covid, the official cause of death is Covid.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (3XqsM)

351 The most annoying thing in that thread at twitter from scientific american is the idiots spouting "Science is about finding the Truth"

No, you fucking retards, it isn't.
As my very first genetics professor said at the very beginning of our first lecture, "Science is about the search for facts. If you want truth, go take a philosophy or a theology course."
Posted by: Gman


If you accumulate enough facts, you can postulate a theory about why something works.

But theories are only as good as the facts, and a lot of theories ultimately collapse.
Newtonian Mechanics works for a lot of frameworks (obviously) but fails in relatavistic frameworks.

Something is only true in science until you find better data.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....asymptomatic Moron at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (vcOmj)

352 @259

You ever notice no one is ever upset about the number of female brick layers or female oil rig divers.

Hmm, I wonder why.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (RGRr5)

353 The MFM: Trump lied!!!!!
***

Yeah....this has been the story of the last 4 years.


Trump says the sun rises in the East.

FACT CHECK: The earth orbits the sun, not the other way around!

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (qlFIA)

354 The most annoying thing in that thread at twitter
from scientific american is the idiots spouting "Science is about finding the Truth"


It's about finding working models so we can predict how things will behave. Even quantum physics, which is all about probabilities, has to produce models that reliably predict behavior.

And the models don't have to be -- and often can't be -- perfect. We know Newton's gravitation model isn't perfect, but it's still used for rocketry and other engineering. You have to get to really high velocity or other odd situations (like Mercury's) for the inaccuracies to be measurable.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 15, 2020 01:40 PM (naEeR)

355 They look like they're friends.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:40 PM (XvwBl)

356 239 "171 They are going to come for STEM and Medicine hardcore under the next DEM administration. Outright quotas, alternate examinations and board certifications etc. Just watch. They will not leave those fields alone."

People will die. Not necessarily the right people.
Posted by: Igotnothing at September 15, 2020 01:28 PM


People have died.

Posted by: Florida International University STEM students at September 15, 2020 01:40 PM (d/5jB)

357 I just scienced in my pants!
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 15, 2020 01:34 PM

=====

A valid experiment is repeatable, Joe.
Posted by: Roy at September 15, 2020 01:36 PM


With the dementia med they've got me on, that's not a problem. You know, the thing.

Posted by: Joe R. Biden at September 15, 2020 01:40 PM (DMUuz)

358 Media is covering the peace deal.

With a fabulous pillow.

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:40 PM (842IN)

359 It has every aspect of a religion.
Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM

---
It doesn't have a supernatural belief. It has non-natural beliefs.

You can say all you want "They worship Gaia" but the vast majority of them worship themselves. They wouldn't put up with a diety, because a deity can tell you what is better.

And that gets in their way.

It's often pointed out that believing you have the "One Truth" is an arrogance. But, the very act of saying to yourself "I'm not in charge." should be realized as a counter.

Besides, most people believe they have The Truth. Believing that is as natural as being born human. This is why this political faction is now saying we need to buckle to all their points of the One Truth they have.

Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2020 01:40 PM (Eicbe)

360 340 Trump: I received an award from The bay of Pigs veterans.

The MFM: Trump lied, there is no such award.

Trump: Here's a picture of me receiving the award.

The MFM: That's not an award.

The Bay of Pigs Veterans: Um, yes, it is in fact an award.

The MFM: Trump lied!!!!!
-----------------------
Its a Duck. Burn the Witch.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:40 PM (UixLE)

361 349 "What actions can we take to make us MORE irrelevant in the minds of the Arab states?"
-Palestine

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:35 PM (UWqZJ)

"I know....let's lob some rockets at Israel! Yeah, that'll work!"
Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (cF8AT)

==========

This is a petulant child throwing their own toys over the fence to the neighbor's back yard in protest.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:40 PM (UWqZJ)

362 I hope we get to know them more.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:40 PM (XvwBl)

363 Hey Joe, there's life on Venus, better send a rocket full of ballots over there.

Posted by: wth at September 15, 2020 01:41 PM (v0R5T)

364 Trump: I received an award from The bay of Pigs veterans.

The MFM: Trump lied, there is no such award.

Trump: Here's a picture of me receiving the award.

The MFM: That's not an award.

The Bay of Pigs Veterans: Um, yes, it is in fact an award.

The MFM: Trump lied!!!!!


If nothing else, the man has sent rake sales through the roof!

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 15, 2020 01:41 PM (B+qrE)

365 The pathetic thing about Palestinian rockets is that they're basically 10 foot pieces of sewer pipe with some fins welded on and a nose cone with an explosive charge in it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:41 PM (Kpl3J)

366 If you start out with the premise that 1+1=3, no matter how impeccable your reasoning and math are later, your answer is still wrong.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 15, 2020 01:41 PM (pw+jk)

367 FACT CHECK: The earth orbits the sun, not the other way around!

Um, the Earth orbits the barycenter, not the Sun. The Sun orbits the barycenter too.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 15, 2020 01:41 PM (aOdFB)

368 347
Right on cue, Palestinian terrorists are launching

rockets from Gaza into Israel while the UAE, Bahrain, Israel and the

United States sign a historic peace agreement at the White House.

#AbrahamAccords

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (cF8AT)

They are rocketing into irrelevancy, and there is nothing they can do about it except agree to peace with Israel.

And they will never do that.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (xT2tT)

Any bets that these rockets are launched from a school that the UN built? Any bets on how long that building will remain standing if the philistines keep this crap up?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 15, 2020 01:41 PM (N39Ws)

369 Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (hku12)

Over at WUWT and other places where we've been watching this for awhile, we refer to the new movement as "Scientism", which is a Pseudo-Religious reliance on things that it's adherents consider "Sciency", combined with a complete lack of the most basic understanding about what Logic and Science actually are.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (Kpl3J)


Yep, I think scientism is the right word.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)

370 Could it be that these institutions are dominated by leftwingers and leftwingers have gone absolutely bugfuck insane for eighty years straight?

Fixed.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (E+OcO)

371 Right on cue, Palestinian terrorists are launching rockets from Gaza
into Israel while the UAE, Bahrain, Israel and the United States sign a
historic peace agreement at the White House. #AbrahamAccords


Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (cF8AT)

They're mostly peaceful rockets.

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (842IN)

372 Guy gets killed riding a donor cycle and because he maybe tested at one
time in his life for Covid, the official cause of death is Covid.

***

In 2018 if an 80 year old person with COPD and a history of lung cancer contracted that year's flu pandemic and died what would be listed as their official cause of death?

If the same person dies today we *know* it will be listed as Covid.





Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (qlFIA)

373 291 The Abraham Accords!

And I lived to see it. (Getting choked up here)

Posted by: itsacookbook at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (yPxXc)


My first memory of hearing about the Middle East is TV reports about the Six-Day War in 1967. Fifty-three years. I've heard or read about it at least once every week since summer '67. Madness.

Posted by: Gref at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (AMIL/)

374 Speaking of science . . .

Jameela Jamil
@jameelajamil
It would be so cool if pregnant people could just be allowed to be pregnant and get bigger and not be self conscious, and enjoy the miracle taking place inside their body and not have to worry about feeling embarrassed/shamed that their body is changing for an amazing reason.

-
When you scream at me for saying pregnant people instead of only pregnant women I think it is hilarious. Imagine being this upset about some inclusive language. Get a grip.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (+y/Ru)

375 There's fair number of yard signs in my neighborhood that say something like, "In this house, we believe: BLM, etc., etc., Science is Real, etc., etc." Always wanted to ask how they square believing in "Science" and BLM's critical race theory view that "Science" is a socially constructed tool of white supremacy. I guess, that struggle session comes later and we'll know which Wine Moms are really paying attention to the social cues when the yard signs pop up, "In this house, we believe: whatever it is that lady that wrote 'White Fragility' wants us to say we believe".
Posted by: Remember the post office panic from like three weeks ago, what happened to that? at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (dYe5S)

Yes, and how that squares with their belief in 26 genders and choosing your own sex regardless of your genitalia.

Posted by: LASue at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (Ed8Zd)

376 308 265 Look at it from a religious angle. They are worshippers of the Earth. Modern day pagans. They are the 'moral equivalent' of ancient druids and Aztec priests.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (dV48Q)

I've made the case that it's a religion before.

They have a deity (Gaia)
Invincible Dogma (Human activity is globally significant)
Prophets (Gore, Greta)
Priesthood (Consensus "scientists")
Holy Orders (Everything from Sierra Club to ELF)
Holidays (Earth Day)
Rituals (Earth Hour)
Sin (Pollution)
Sinners (Industrialists, you)
Apostates (Skeptical scientists)
Original Sin (CO2 - you exhale it)
An Apocalypse (Earth becomes Venus)
And Indulgences (Carbon Credits)

It has every aspect of a religion.

Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (hgx/q)


This is GOOD. You should copyright it and sell posters.
Posted by: Gref



Well my post fits on a bumper sticker, so more efficient use of space. IN YOUR FACE CATO, YOU SMARTY PANTZ YOU!!! (I copied and pasted what you wrote. It was pretty good)

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (dV48Q)

377
Right on cue, Palestinian terrorists are launching
rockets from Gaza into Israel


ACME rockets

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (63Dwl)

378 People will die.

Posted by: Igotnothing at September 15, 2020 01:28 PM
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You mean carbon debtors.

Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (Eicbe)

379 >>> Q - What also floats in water?

A - Very small stones.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (UixLE)

====

Iowa State (Engineering Dept/Grad students?) used to have as an assignment to build a small boat out of concrete. They would them test them in the pond on campus. I may be fuzzy on the details, but that was the gist of it. I think they had big turnouts from the students to watch.

Posted by: Chin music at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (69XrE)

380 With the dementia med they've got me on, that's not a problem. You know, the thing.
Posted by: Joe R. Biden at September 15, 2020 01:40 PM (DMUuz)

That's number one. Number two: well, I'm running out of time here.

Posted by: Joe Biden with a steel plate in his head at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (v0R5T)

381 Well, it seems the purge is going to be bigger than I thought. We're going to need a fuck ton of helicopters. Fuck it, use chinooks and drop them in bulk.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 15, 2020 01:43 PM (9Om/r)

382 The fact is, no one at a football game should need to wear a mask at all whether they are on the sidelines alone or within 6' of someone giving and interview. Because, if I understand it correctly, everyone allowed into the stadium was tested and tested negative. So, there's no risk. So no need for masks at all.

So the only reason they are wearing them is not for "science" or "safety", but to virtue-signal to the TV audience or to show people watching the game that *they* should be wearing masks, because "see, we're wearing masks, so you should too!"
Posted by: Clyde Shelton


"I'm supposed to wear a mask for your health. Do you want me to jog for you to help you lose weight?"

(Not you Clyde. The royal "you")

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2020 01:43 PM (3XqsM)

383
You got it in one. Chemistry and chemical engineering. The tenor of the articles these silly girls write for C&EN is all the impediments women face attempting to go into the field. Impediments? Really?

It's not hard to guess that these gals washed out of grad school and are bitter about it. But women face zero impediments on going into chemistry, and have actual inducements to go into research.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:36 PM (Tatvh)

See, for those reasons, I have NEVER understood this. This isn't an earlier time where girls would be actively preventing from going into fields NOT teaching or nursing. The gates are WIDE OPEN for the ladies to enter those worlds, and indeed, there are financial inducements to do so via things like scholarships.

Knowing all this, people, IF they were rational, would have to kick back and ask themselves a question out of introspection: "Hmmm...in spite of everything, why aren't girls plunging headlong into STEM fields?" The answer? It's uncomfortable, but here's my theory:

1) It's Because They Don't Want To.
2) And That's OK.

Points #1 and #2 make some people very, very, very upset, but there are countless Americans that find the concept of freewill to be very upsetting.

The moral of the story should be that all our boys and girls should be set free to do what it is they want. They'll all contribute to their families and society in a positive way.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:43 PM (SSJSf)

384 This should be on all the networks, giving us all the background.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:43 PM (XvwBl)

385 Tiresome troll, is tiresome.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 15, 2020 01:43 PM (ejd/p)

386 345 Academia corrupted the scientific process by relying on publications for tenure. Journals only publish original and positive findings. Incentive for professors to fake data almost overwhelming.
Posted by: iandeal at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (5e/k


Nah. Faked data are very rare outside of some biomedical journals because in chemistry and physics if you fake something of any significance, others will immediate try to reproduce it. Faked or cheered up data are much more prevalent in biomedical research because it is difficult to falsify someone else's results. You can always assert "biological variation" as the reason for their failure to reproduce your results.

And a considerable proportion of data fakery involves Chinese and Indian researchers. See "Retraction Watch" for supporting evidence of this contention.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (Tatvh)

387 Abraham peace arriving within 60 days of Nov 3. Dems to accuse UAE and Bahrain of meddling in our elections in 5, 4, 3...

Posted by: Hands at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (786Ro)

388 With 200k dead and rising and a significant portion of the population denying the very existence of the virus that caused it , tell us something that we don't already know.

See, this is The Big Lie, and every leftist is deploying this despicable lie.

No one. ABSOLUTELY. NO. ONE. has denied that there is a virus.

We deny that there is a pandemic, because there isn't a pandemic. They know damn well they are lying when they conflate denying the existence of a virus with a pandemic, but they do it anyway.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (jbF6h)

389 288
Joe will have a Scientologist for science advisor.

good thing i have degrees in both scientology and scientonomy!

Posted by: Dr. Fauci at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (sGtp+)

390 385 Tiresome troll, is tiresome.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 15, 2020 01:43 PM (ejd/p)

========

What'd I do now?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (UWqZJ)

391 Real time "interrupt this soap opera" peace deal coverage:

ABC = nope
NBC = nope
CBS = nope

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (ySswD)

392 Well, it seems the purge is going to be bigger than I thought. We're going to need a fuck ton of helicopters. Fuck it, use chinooks and drop them in bulk.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads



C-130's. Drop the ramp and steep climb.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (3XqsM)

393 I'm stealing that just like I stole the line about how a salon in SF has better security than Epstein's jail cell
Posted by: Buzzion at September 15, 2020 01:38 PM (2fGCR)

Feel free, I like it when my ideas get to broader audiences.

Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (hgx/q)

394 After science has made the world worth living in healthily, especially in the last 150 years, it's tragic that leftist pseudoscience, starting with the movement to ban DDT, is doing so much to plunge us back into those dark ages.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 15, 2020 01:37 PM (6xA3t)
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"As Science advances, Ignorance and Superstition gallop around the flanks and bite Science on the ass with big, dark teeth."

Philip Jose Farmer

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (Rk6Cp)

395 Mark Knoller
@markknoller
·
1m
Pres Trump, PM of Israel, and the Foreign Ministers of Bahrain and the UAE, sign documents for normalization of relations, the first between Israel and two Arab states in a quarter century.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (XvwBl)

396 When the doctor did Joe's brain surgery, there was excess space in the brain cavity. So the doctor inserted a large dill pickle.



Biden's IQ increased.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (AD14M)

397 >>> Iowa State (Engineering Dept/Grad students?) used to have as an assignment to build a small boat out of concrete. They would them test them in the pond on campus. I may be fuzzy on the details, but that was the gist of it. I think they had big turnouts from the students to watch.

======
Yep. Here it is:

https://stuorgs.engineering.iastate.edu/asce/concrete-canoe/

Posted by: Chin music at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (69XrE)

398 Perhaps worth noticing, as these peace deals get signed, is the question of why these various Arab states would be willing to sign them now. When Trump is up for re-election.

What does that tell us about THEIR interests, and their timing, and their belief in Trump's intentions versus the Democrat Party's intentions?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (hku12)

399
And I haven't even mentioned their unfortunate and usually disastrous forays into political matters.

Posted by: Sir Ian Botham at September 15, 2020 01:36 PM (HTb6j)

By way of reply, I would quote a passage from the aforementioned The Devil's Delusion....

Neither scientific credibility nor sound good sense is at issue in any of these declarations. They are absurd; they are understood to be absurd; and what is more, assent is demanded just because they are absurd. "We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs," the geneticist Richard Lewontin remarked equably in The New York Review of Books, "in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories" (my emphasis).


Why should any discerning man or woman take the side of science, or anything else, under these circumstances? It is because, Lewontin explains, "we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."



If one is obliged to accept absurdities for fear of a Divine Foot, imagine what prodigies of effort would be required were the rest of the Divine Torso found wedged at the door and with some justifiable irritation demanding to be let in?


If nothing else, the attack on traditional religious thought marks the consolidation in our time of science as the single system of belief in which rational men and women might place their faith, and if not their faith, then certainly their devotion. From cosmology to biology, its narratives have become the narratives. They are, these narratives, immensely seductive, so much so that looking at them with innocent eyes requires a very deliberate act. And like any militant church, this one places a familiar demand before all others: Thou shalt have no other gods before me.


It is this that is new; it is this that is important.



Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (6JL3d)

400 Methinks the Palis are going to wish they had taken one of those sweet peace deals they were offered in the past. They have lost backing from every Arab country except maybe Syria and the evil Iranians. They are clearly up shit creek and their canoe just sank.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (/uaBM)

401 My first memory of hearing about the Middle East is TV reports about the Six-Day War in 1967. Fifty-three years. I've heard or read about it at least once every week since summer '67.

Or as I call it--Moshe's 72-Hour Ass-Kicking Seminar.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (B+qrE)

402
When people stop trusting experts, everyone suffers.

Trust me. I'm an expert. Buy my book. I'm such an expert that my book will make you feel like an expert, too. And then you can follow me on Twitter to become more of an expert. And then share your new expertise with others on Twitter. Because I'm a giver like that.

Posted by: Tom "The Expert" Nichols at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (x73LH)

403 379 >>> Q - What also floats in water?

A - Very small stones.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:32 PM (UixLE)

====

Iowa State (Engineering Dept/Grad students?) used to have as an assignment to build a small boat out of concrete. They would them test them in the pond on campus. I may be fuzzy on the details, but that was the gist of it. I think they had big turnouts from the students to watch.
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The strongest and lightest hulls are made from concrete. A bitch to repair, though.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (UixLE)

404 Wear a bike helmet to protect my grandmother from falling in the shower, science deniers!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (ySswD)

405 The so called scientists remind me of the mutants from Beneath the Planet of the Apes that worshiped a doomsday device.

Posted by: Archer at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (gmo/4)

406 someone square that circle for me...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 15, 2020 01:21 PM


answer = that circle * that circle

Done.

Posted by: Moose out front at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (DMUuz)

407 Iowa State (Engineering Dept/Grad students?) used to have as an assignment to build a small boat out of concrete.
Posted by: Chin music

--

There were some concrete Liberty ships built in WWII. One of them ran aground in Galveston Bay. It is still there.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (kA3Cp)

408 I was reading the Stanford encyclopedia of philosophy yesterday. I wanted to get a better grasp on critical theory. The 2+2=5 argument is literally part of critical theory, ie praxis and ideology are not synchronous.

I need to do some more work on dialectics before I can completely grasp what Horkheimer posited.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (ySQBZ)

409 398 Perhaps worth noticing, as these peace deals get signed, is the question of why these various Arab states would be willing to sign them now. When Trump is up for re-election.

What does that tell us about THEIR interests, and their timing, and their belief in Trump's intentions versus the Democrat Party's intentions?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (hku12)

=========

Formalize this now so that it becomes harder to prop up Iran during a Biden presidency.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (UWqZJ)

410 366 If you start out with the premise that 1+1=3, no matter how impeccable your reasoning and math are later, your answer is still wrong.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 15, 2020 01:41 PM (pw+jk)

Says you.

Posted by: O'Brien at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (SSJSf)

411 I've made the case that it's a religion before.

They have a deity (Gaia)
Invincible Dogma (Human activity is globally significant)
Prophets (Gore, Greta)
Priesthood (Consensus "scientists")
Holy Orders (Everything from Sierra Club to ELF)
Holidays (Earth Day)
Rituals (Earth Hour)
Sin (Pollution)
Sinners (Industrialists, you)
Apostates (Skeptical scientists)
Original Sin (CO2 - you exhale it)
An Apocalypse (Earth becomes Venus)
And Indulgences (Carbon Credits)

It has every aspect of a religion.

Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (hgx/q)

I can't believe you left off Strict Dietary Regulations - Be a Veegan!!!

every dogmatic religion has those.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (Kpl3J)

412 You have to get to really high velocity or other odd situations (like Mercury's)

High velocity in a Grand Marquis was certainly a rare and odd situation.

Posted by: spindrift at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (BpjJB)

413 290 Another book for recalling how human and political "science" can always be - The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, Thomas Kuhn. Was all the rage with political sciencey types back in the day, but has valuable insights.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (OTzUX)
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That's a good one.

I'd also recommend one of Hayek's lesser known works, The Counter-Revolution of Science, which is one of many excellent works on the Progressive appropriation of Science! for utopian, political ends.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (M/9m0)

414 With 200k dead



Lie in the first 3 words = Disregard

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (842IN)

415
You know what would be funny? Get some young physics teachers male and female to sign up for tinder or something.


Have them accept whoever they want to go on a date with like normal, but the assignment is you have to turn every discussion back to quantum mechanics.

Then see how many of those first dates turn into second dates. I guarantee you those male physics nerds are NOT getting to date number two...



Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (qlFIA)

416 oh yeah, and they have a Pope named Al Gore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (Kpl3J)

417 With the dementia med they've got me on, that's not a problem. You know, the thing.
Posted by: Joe R. Biden at September 15, 2020 01:40 PM (DMUuz)

That's number one. Number two: well, I'm running out of time here.
Posted by: Joe Biden with a steel plate in his head


Number two: well, my canoe has a flat tire so my pancake is flying.
Posted by Steely Plate

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (3XqsM)

418 Scientific American hardly counts as a "Scientific Institution" of any kind. One might as well put your trust in any of the Rodale Press publications.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (yQpMk)

419 366 If you start out with the premise that 1+1=3, no matter how impeccable your reasoning and math are later, your answer is still wrong.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 15, 2020 01:41 PM (pw+jk)

"I'm the cult of personality..."

Posted by: Living Colour at September 15, 2020 01:47 PM (SSJSf)

420 The so called scientists remind me of the mutants from Beneath the Planet of the Apes that worshiped a doomsday device.


Posted by: Archer at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (gmo/4)


Damn, thats a good observation.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 15, 2020 01:47 PM (9Om/r)

421 The answer? It's uncomfortable, but here's my theory:

1) It's Because They Don't Want To.
2) And That's OK.

Points #1 and #2 make some people very, very, very upset, but there are countless Americans that find the concept of freewill to be very upsetting.

The moral of the story should be that all our boys and girls should be set free to do what it is they want. They'll all contribute to their families and society in a positive way.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:43 PM (SSJSf)


I agree with both #1 and #2. STEM subjects are difficult, and necessitate a lot of hard work for a long time. A LOT of people don't want to do that, and that's OK too.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:47 PM (Tatvh)

422 A few years ago Alabama's nerd dorm was dissolved after they built a trebuchet and launched a coke machine into a local lake. The problem being the nerd dorm didn't own the coke machine.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:48 PM (ySswD)

423 The Independent is a communist rag just like the Guardian.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 01:39 PM (Tatvh)

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I know. They published my letter to the editor and hated it so much that the next Sunday, they published a reply letter.

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2020 01:48 PM (Pqytn)

424 They're mostly peaceful rockets.
Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:42 PM (842IN)

We can just overlook the splodey bit at the tip of it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 15, 2020 01:48 PM (/EuRN)

425 Have them accept whoever they want to go on a date with like normal, but the assignment is you have to turn every discussion back to quantum mechanics.

Then see how many of those first dates turn into second dates. I guarantee you those male physics nerds are NOT getting to date number two...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (qlFIA)

What if you changed the topic to AoSHQ blog posts?

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:48 PM (Kpl3J)

426 Q - What also floats in water?

A - Very small stones.
Posted by: Puddin Head



Witches!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2020 01:48 PM (3XqsM)

427
Funny thing is, trolls could earn more collecting cans in alleyways than they get from David Brock for posting on websites.

And yet, they persist. Picking up even the lightest-weight, cleanest garbage is too much work.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 15, 2020 01:48 PM (x73LH)

428 416 oh yeah, and they have a Pope named Al Gore.
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They installed a newer Gaia Pope called Francis. Around the same time they installed 2M Muslims in Europe.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:48 PM (UixLE)

429 418 Scientific American hardly counts as a "Scientific Institution" of any kind. One might as well put your trust in any of the Rodale Press publications.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (yQpMk)

It's like calling "Motor Week" an auto manufacturer.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (/EuRN)

430 Clock Boy invented, er, time. Yeah, that's it. Should get the Nobel.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (/uaBM)

431 Iowa State (Engineering Dept/Grad students?) used to have as an assignment to build a small boat out of concrete.


Ferro-cement boat building was a big thing for a while.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (yQpMk)

432 Real time "interrupt this soap opera" peace deal coverage:



ABC = nope

NBC = nope

CBS = nope

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (ySswD)


This will get at best a brief mention in the MFM.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (xaa8Q)

433 1) It's Because They Don't Want To.
2) And That's OK.

Points #1 and #2 make some people very, very, very upset, but there are countless Americans that find the concept of freewill to be very upsetting.

The moral of the story should be that all our boys and girls should be set free to do what it is they want. They'll all contribute to their families and society in a positive way.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:43 PM (SSJSf)

It's also really hard, and there's no "interpretation" when it comes to chemical formulas or reactions. You can't talk about your feelings when you are in a lab, you have to measure, titrate, distill, and carefully document each and every aspect of what you do, so that it can be exactly reproduced by someone else in a different lab.

All of that takes precision and skill, and sometimes tedious labor. Why do that when you can just go to a class and talk about how your dad makes you feel....thus and so...and get an A?

Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (+X9Vs)

434 I'd also recommend one of Hayek's lesser known
works, The Counter-Revolution of Science, which is one of many excellent
works on the Progressive appropriation of Science! for utopian,
political ends.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (M/9m0)


I've never read that book, I'm gonna order that one today as well o.0

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (6JL3d)

435 Palestinians have been launching attacks regularly, for months now, they just receive zero "press" in the US. Including their own version of Japan's "Operation Elephant", balloon-carried fire-bombs, a few of which have caused small wildfires.

And the Palestinians' rocketing trajectory to irrelevance goes back to 1991, whose events also were the macro state-setting to make possible everything we're seeing today. The decisive revision of the eastern Arab world's power set-up in 2003, and the insane Iran-centric idiocy of the Obama years, laid the rest of the foundation.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (OTzUX)

436 Then see how many of those first dates turn into second dates. I guarantee you those male physics nerds are NOT getting to date number two...



Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (qlFIA)

Try getting a date after you get in an argument with your history major friends in a social setting over the use of the Wade-Giles transliteration system versus Pinyin.

(Yes, this really happened.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (SSJSf)

437 >>Biden actually called Trump a climate arsonist. WTF is that? My God these people are really going to deserve what they get during CW 2.



Biden's broken brain confused the antifa arsonists with Trump not buying the narrative that the fires are due to climate change.

OMG, when Biden finally says something that absolutely confirms his brain is broken -- will he reveal a big secret or two?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (bDqIh)

438 422 A few years ago Alabama's nerd dorm was dissolved after they built a trebuchet and launched a coke machine into a local lake. The problem being the nerd dorm didn't own the coke machine.
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These guys rock.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (UixLE)

439 407 Iowa State (Engineering Dept/Grad students?) used to have as an assignment to build a small boat out of concrete.
Posted by: Chin music

--

There were some concrete Liberty ships built in WWII. One of them ran aground in Galveston Bay. It is still there.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (kA3Cp)

The wreck of the SS Atlantus, build between the wars, is still visible off the coast of Cape May, NJ

Posted by: josephistan at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (Izzlo)

440 Scientific "truths" throughout time:
You can change lead into gold.
The earth is the center of the solar system.
Electing Biden will give you health


Posted by: Archer at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (gmo/4)

441 Perhaps worth noticing, as these peace deals get signed, is the question of why these various Arab states would be willing to sign them now. When Trump is up for re-election.

What does that tell us about THEIR interests, and their timing, and their belief in Trump's intentions versus the Democrat Party's intentions?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (hku12)

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Formalize this now so that it becomes harder to prop up Iran during a Biden presidency.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:45 PM (UWqZJ)


I'm sure that's part of the calculation. If you're an Arab state who doesn't want Iran back in charge, you do what you can now... hedge your bets against a Biden Presidency, while participating in historic peace deals that reduce the chance of a Biden Presidency in the first place.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (hku12)

442 What mother would name her son Gore?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (pB6Gt)

443 My first memory of hearing about the Middle East is TV reports about the Six-Day War in 1967. Fifty-three years. I've heard or read about it at least once every week since summer '67.

Or as I call it--Moshe's 72-Hour Ass-Kicking Seminar.
Posted by: Circa


Moshe Dyan - VCD

(Very Cool Dude)

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (3XqsM)

444 418 Scientific American hardly counts as a "Scientific Institution" of any kind. One might as well put your trust in any of the Rodale Press publications.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (yQpMk)

Next you'll be telling me the Racism Institution of Institutional and Systemic Racism isn't a real organization

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (aOdFB)

445 Not only am I anti-Science, Believe in I am also anti-History, Arc of

Posted by: Ripley at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (MxEKc)

446 In my naivety, I used to believe there was a hard "wall" between science and the delusion filled liberal arts.

Real scientists would never allow science to be contaminated with BS.

"Your death before their dishonor" is the rule now. The leftists are perfectly OK with installing idiots in charge, to "check the block", so they can feel good about themselves. Competence and proficiency are just "tools of the patriarchy" and so on.

So you can feel good about taking a flight where the pilot in command is a purple haired lesbian illegal alien who failed basic arithmetic. It's all good. Enjoy your flight! LOL

Posted by: Common Tater at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (6kzAH)

447 Freewill isn't license

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (ySQBZ)

448 Ordinary American: "Pretty interesting to watch one once-respected entity and institution after another trip over itself to declare its abject idiocy. What a time this is."

President Trump is indeed a cleansing fire.

We could have done this rectification of institutions decades ago, but the political class (government, media, academia, corporatism) is sooo corrupt and corruptible that repair could not be made. It's only in an era of unintentional transparency and tangible insanity that all the absurdity has been laid bare.

And Trump is its champion.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 15, 2020 01:51 PM (HhXSr)

449 Science is not fake. They saved us from the ice age in the 70's. They saved us from alar and radon. They closed the ozone hole by banning Freon. They prevented DDT from destroying the world.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 15, 2020 01:51 PM (2DOZq)

450 425 Have them accept whoever they want to go on a date with like normal, but the assignment is you have to turn every discussion back to quantum mechanics.

Then see how many of those first dates turn into second dates. I guarantee you those male physics nerds are NOT getting to date number two...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (qlFIA)

What if you changed the topic to AoSHQ blog posts?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:48 PM (Kpl3J)

It wasn't so much the discussion of quantum physics, because that is actually really cool. It was the quantum physics nerd poking my chest that ended the date.

Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2020 01:51 PM (+X9Vs)

451 A few years ago Alabama's nerd dorm was dissolved after they built a trebuchet and launched a coke machine into a local lake. The problem being the nerd dorm didn't own the coke machine.
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These guys rock.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (UixLE)

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When I was there (way) pre-9/11 they'd have a week of a nerf-gun "Fortnite" style assassination game on campus.

I can't imagine that would be smiled upon these days.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:51 PM (ySswD)

452 I'm anti-Progressive. Can join AntiProg?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 15, 2020 01:51 PM (aOdFB)

453 344 @KatiePavlich 5m



Right on cue, Palestinian terrorists are launching rockets from Gaza
into Israel while the UAE, Bahrain, Israel and the United States sign a
historic peace agreement at the White House. #AbrahamAccords


Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (cF8AT)


Certainly helps point a finger at their masters, the Iranians.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 15, 2020 01:51 PM (9rYNN)

454 Biden actually called Trump a climate arsonist. WTF is that?

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A climate arsonist is someone who sets fires to burn out his enemies from their homes. Also known as the democrat base.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (kA3Cp)

455 Never forget that Marxism is "scientific" socialism and National Socialism was based on "scientific" race theory.
(Our Progressives have their own "scientific" racialism, of course.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (M/9m0)

456 What mother would name her son Gore?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM


I thought it was a vidal thing to do.

Posted by: Mrs. Vidal at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (DMUuz)

457 >>> 1 Iowa State (Engineering Dept/Grad students?) used to have as an assignment to build a small boat out of concrete.


Ferro-cement boat building was a big thing for a while.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (yQpMk)

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Can't get nuttin' past you guys. I must have thought I was posting on Hot Air. ;-)

Posted by: Chin music at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (69XrE)

458 Science is not fake. They saved us from the ice age in the 70's. They saved us from alar and radon. They closed the ozone hole by banning Freon. They prevented DDT from destroying the world.

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The neat part is that the left's "WE'VE ONLY GOT 11 YEARS!!!" claim is from something written in 1989. They keep citing it and never discussing the source, but that's where the claim comes from.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (ySswD)

459 438 422 A few years ago Alabama's nerd dorm was dissolved after they built a trebuchet and launched a coke machine into a local lake. The problem being the nerd dorm didn't own the coke machine.
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These guys rock.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (UixLE)

I remember reading an article years ago about some British Trebuchet builders, titled "Those Magnificent Men and their Flying Latrines."

(they had decided to have a toilet-hurling contest)

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (Kpl3J)

460 @RyanGirdusky

The new Florida Atlantic University poll show undecided voters are breaking for Trump by a margin of 4:1

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

461
So you can feel good about taking a flight where the pilot in command is a purple haired lesbian illegal alien who failed basic arithmetic. It's all good. Enjoy your flight! LOL
Posted by: Common Tater at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (6kzAH)


IIRC, in the documentary "Idiocracy", the doctor's wife was an airline pilot.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (PiwSw)

462 >>What does that tell us about THEIR interests, and their timing, and their belief in Trump's intentions versus the Democrat Party's intentions?


Consider it an "in kind" Trump-Pence 2020 campaign donation?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (bDqIh)

463 It wasn't so much the discussion of quantum physics, because that is actually really cool. It was the quantum physics nerd poking my chest that ended the date.
Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2020 01:51 PM (+X9Vs)

What was he poking you with ?

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (2DOZq)

464 It has every aspect of a religion.

Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:31 PM (hgx/q)


True. All religions do not have a path of redemption or atonement. it is endless penance and guilt.

Orthodox Christianity, OTOH, has redemption and atonement.

Posted by: 🐧 at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (C+evo)

465 453 344 @KatiePavlich 5m



Right on cue, Palestinian terrorists are launching rockets from Gaza
into Israel while the UAE, Bahrain, Israel and the United States sign a
historic peace agreement at the White House. #AbrahamAccords


Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:33 PM (cF8AT)


Certainly helps point a finger at their masters, the Iranians.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 15, 2020 01:51 PM (9rYNN)

It must really chap their ass to see the rest of the Arabs & Sunnis abandon them and have to be propped up by the Persians.

Posted by: josephistan at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (Izzlo)

466 A few years ago Alabama's nerd dorm was dissolved after they built a trebuchet and launched a coke machine into a local lake. The problem being the nerd dorm didn't own the coke machine.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:48 PM (ySswD)


And everyone knows fish prefer Pepsi.

The science (and the Coke machine) is settled.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (hku12)

467 You have to get to really high velocity or other odd situations (like Mercury's)
........

But what about Uranus?

Posted by: wth at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (v0R5T)

468 395 Mark Knoller@markknoller

1m

Pres Trump, PM of Israel, and the Foreign Ministers of Bahrain and the UAE, sign documents for normalization of relations, the first between Israel and two Arab states in a quarter century.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:44 PM (XvwBl)

Then Knoller tweeted a pic of the attendees and the lack of masks in the group.

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (cF8AT)

469 442 What mother would name her son Gore?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (pB6Gt)


Gore Vidal, Albert Gore's cousin.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (9rYNN)

470 Trey Yingst
@TreyYingst
·
35m
BREAKING: Rocket sirens sounding in southern Israel as peace deal is signed at the White House

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (XvwBl)

471 Africa and India still use DDT, there still a hole in the ozone sometimes and they can't predict when. Most recent "triumphs" of science have been complete failures.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (aOdFB)

472 SCIENCE is forced to deny man + woman in service of sabotaging Christianity. But totes trust Science.

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (842IN)

473 Biden actually called Trump a climate arsonist. WTF is that?

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A climate arsonist is someone who sets fires to burn out his enemies from their homes. Also known as the democrat base.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (kA3Cp)
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Biden's campaign actually drew attention to the arson that is taking place? That's an "own goal" because PDT's team will shove that right back where the sun doesn't shine.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (WEBkv)

474 460 @RyanGirdusky

The new Florida Atlantic University poll show undecided voters are breaking for Trump by a margin of 4:1
Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

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What does Biden provide the undecided voter? The independent voter?

Promises of some kind of normalcy from his own side's worst impulses.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (UWqZJ)

475
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (hku12)

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Exactly my read. "We think Trump'll win, so it's best to get on his good side during the election. And if he loses, at least we'll have some temporary progress before Biden sends another palette of cash to the Ayatollah.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (x73LH)

476 It was the quantum physics nerd poking my chest that ended the date.
Posted by: Moki

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That is extraordinarily bad aiming.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (kA3Cp)

477 Get woke, go broke.


If I were Scientific American I'd start casting about for a pet billionaire to fund them. All the really good ones are probably already taken, but you never know!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (gtNWf)

478 460 @RyanGirdusky

The new Florida Atlantic University poll show undecided voters are breaking for Trump by a margin of 4:1
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Rut Row.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (UixLE)

479 I thought it was a vidal thing to do.
Posted by: Mrs. Vidal at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (DMUuz)


I'm stealing that.

Posted by: Mrs. Sassoon at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (PiwSw)

480 255 198 Real science has never been tried.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 15, 2020 01:23 PM (pw+jk)


If all science since some homo sapiens walked out of Africa had been done per the methodology today's Leftists embrace, we'd still be in the Stone Age.
Posted by: Gref at September 15, 2020 01:30 PM (AMIL/)

And we'll be headed back to the Stone Age if we don't put a stop to this now.

Can you imagine these klownz in the control room of a nuke station or even an industrial gas or petrochem facility?

[shudders]

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (eIig2)

481 A few years ago Alabama's nerd dorm was dissolved

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (DMUuz)

482 What does that tell us about THEIR interests, and their timing, and their belief in Trump's intentions versus the Democrat Party's intentions?
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Consider it an "in kind" Trump-Pence 2020 campaign donation?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (bDqIh)


You just gave Adam Schiff another idea.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (hku12)

483 >>Ferro-cement boat building was a big thing for a while.

I know a guy who built a catamaran using Ferro-cement.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (ZLI7S)

484 Then Knoller tweeted a pic of the attendees and the lack of masks in the group.


Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (cF8AT)

That's how you Narrative

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (842IN)

485 469 442 What mother would name her son Gore?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (pB6Gt)

Gore Vidal, Albert Gore's cousin.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (9rYNN)

You're speaking to a bot.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (XvwBl)

486 The new Florida Atlantic University poll show undecided voters are breaking for Trump by a margin of 4:1

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F*cking racists love them some retirement savings.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Y'all better work this sh*t out, because you don't want us to at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (ySswD)

487 Biden actually called Trump a climate arsonist.

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One of the things that most annoys me about Broken Brain at the moment is his commercial about how he'll treat my medical expenses as he would those of a member of his own family. So you're picking up the tab, Joe?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (+y/Ru)

488 Make now mistake. Scientific American is nothing about actual science. They haven't been for a long time. They are socialists, not scientists.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (o2MD2)

489 In my naivety, I used to believe there was a hard "wall" between science and the delusion filled liberal arts.



Real scientists would never allow science to be contaminated with BS.


Posted by: Common Tater at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (6kzAH)


You are not alone with having held that belief. Indeed, a hobby of mine is, when speaking with friends, family, colleagues, and the chick working the register at Casey's, is the fallibility and corruptible nature of scientists.

The ego trips. The rivalries. The refusals to back down from a bad theory, because, come hell or high water, it is their theory, and they will defend it to the death!

Most folk think scientists are not like the rest of us; that is wrong. They are every bit as human as the carpenter building forms for a box culvert down the street, but infinitely more vain, and at risk of corruption because of it! When one imagines oneself to be righteous, one is capable of anything.

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (6JL3d)

490 Lysenko is alive and well in the D.C. swamp.

Posted by: fenderbender at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (r72iY)

491 Jim Cramer just called that Pelosi wench "Crazy Nancy" to her face live on CNBC

LOL!! God Bless You, James.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (6kzAH)

492 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:43 PM (SSJSf)

It's also really hard, and there's no "interpretation" when it comes to chemical formulas or reactions. You can't talk about your feelings when you are in a lab, you have to measure, titrate, distill, and carefully document each and every aspect of what you do, so that it can be exactly reproduced by someone else in a different lab.

All of that takes precision and skill, and sometimes tedious labor. Why do that when you can just go to a class and talk about how your dad makes you feel....thus and so...and get an A?
Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (+X9Vs)

Expanding on this slightly: I, as a male, am supposed to - if you listen to these fools - be heavily inclined to STEM fields. OK, so I love astronomy and things that dovetail into astronomy (it's basically applied physics, so I took physics and astronomy for my science credits in college), but I have ALWAYS sucked at math. But for whatever reason, I have always been wired for the written word. All throughout school, the teachers would say how horrified they were by how I held a pencil, and I was falling ever further behind in math...but my reading was off the charts. (The teachers who bitched about how I held a pencil were dumbasses and petty tyrants.) That throws a bit of a wrench in the theory, no?

Interestingly, when I went looking around for an alternative certification program for teaching (yeah, I know), what was I told? "You'd be perfect! We NEED more male teachers!" I have no idea WHY, but there you go.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (SSJSf)

493 Can you imagine these klownz in the control room of a nuke station or even an industrial gas or petrochem facility?

[shudders]
Posted by: CZ = Happiness at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (eIig2)

I've worked in both, so you should be scared.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (aOdFB)

494 460 @RyanGirdusky

The new Florida Atlantic University poll show undecided voters are breaking for Trump by a margin of 4:1

Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

I don't know how anyone is 'undecided' at this point. I mean JHC...do you guys know ANYONE that's undecided?

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (cF8AT)

495 The new Florida Atlantic University poll show undecided voters are breaking for Trump by a margin of 4:1



Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

Science Denier!

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (88+cf)

496 >>> And everyone knows fish prefer Pepsi.

The science (and the Coke machine) is settled.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (hku12)

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Or did it?

Posted by: Chin music at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (69XrE)

497 Since all magazines and newspapers have become financially unsustainable due to the innertubes stealing their ad revenue it seems the scientific thing to do is to kill them.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (UixLE)

498 Scientology led the way. Now people can believe anything, the more ridiculous the more credible. Strange times indeed. We have become a nation of cults.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 15, 2020 01:56 PM (/uaBM)

499 491 Jim Cramer just called that Pelosi wench "Crazy Nancy" to her face live on CNBC

LOL!! God Bless You, James.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (6kzAH)

He will be arrested for his insolence soon.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 01:56 PM (SSJSf)

500 The wreck of the SS Atlantus, build between the wars, is still visible off the coast of Cape May, NJ

Posted by: josephistan at September 15, 2020 01:49 PM (Izzlo)


Yeah I saw that. It looks like somebody just dumped a concrete building into the water. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 15, 2020 01:56 PM (9Om/r)

501 I can't believe you left off Strict Dietary Regulations - Be a Veegan!!!

every dogmatic religion has those.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 01:46 PM (Kpl3J)

I have mentioned that in other forms of the list, but forgot it today. Yes, it deserves inclusion.

Posted by: Cato, Dread Pirate in Training at September 15, 2020 01:56 PM (hgx/q)

502
What was he poking you with ?
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (2DOZq)

I should clarify, we were in the restaurant, eating dinner, and he started poking the polo on my shirt, asking me "what is that?" Over and over, not listening to me say, "Please stop that."
I finally paid for the meal and left. Bruise on my boob as a thank you.

Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2020 01:57 PM (+X9Vs)

503 2+2 can be 5, if it wants to!

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 15, 2020 01:57 PM (88+cf)

504 But what about Uranus?
Posted by: wth at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM


Funny you should ask...

Posted by: Hope Solo at September 15, 2020 01:57 PM (ejd/p)

505 Science died the day it became dominant socialist.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 15, 2020 01:57 PM (o2MD2)

506
Science.... the discipline .... Is a rigid methodology for determining messurable repeatable truths.

Science.... the institution..... is a collection of organizations populated by human beings subject to the same shortcomings.... greed, jealousy, hubris, prejudice, anger, vengefullness..... as the rest of us.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 15, 2020 01:58 PM (nw6Hr)

507 I don't know how anyone is 'undecided' at this point. I mean JHC...do you guys know ANYONE that's undecided?

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (cF8AT)

Biden is undecided. He can't decide if it was him or somebody else that shit his pants.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 15, 2020 01:58 PM (9Om/r)

508 Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (hku12)

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Exactly my read. "We think Trump'll win, so it's best to get on his good side during the election. And if he loses, at least we'll have some temporary progress before Biden sends another palette of cash to the Ayatollah.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (x73LH)


It's just like when lefties were butthurt after investors started shoving more cash into the economy after the election in '16.

"If they had put their money in before, we might have beaten Trump."

Right. Or people can and will operate in their own self-interest. Always. All of us always do.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:58 PM (hku12)

509 If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (DMUuz)


This place is the best.

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 15, 2020 01:58 PM (AiZBA)

510 What does Biden provide the undecided voter? The independent voter?



Promises of some kind of normalcy from his own side's worst impulses.
Posted by TJM
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Joe's online ads are terrible. Who wants Creepy Joe to tell you every day that he understands your problems and he cares?

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2020 01:58 PM (Pqytn)

511 What was he poking you with ?

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (2DOZq)



I should clarify, we were in the restaurant, eating dinner, and he
started poking the polo on my shirt, asking me "what is that?" Over and
over, not listening to me say, "Please stop that."

I finally paid for the meal and left. Bruise on my boob as a thank you.

Posted by: Moki at September 15, 2020 01:57 PM (+X9Vs)

Second base for free! - Moki's Nerd Date...


Posted by: Archer at September 15, 2020 01:58 PM (gmo/4)

512 n at the moment is his commercial about how he'll treat my medical expenses as he would those of a member of his own family. So you're picking up the tab, Joe?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (+y/Ru)

No. Ukraine will.

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 01:59 PM (842IN)

513 I think Bruise on My Boob was a Joan Jett song.

Posted by: spindrift at September 15, 2020 01:59 PM (BpjJB)

514 Science these days is like the science of Nazi Germany. It exists to verify socialist and racist theory. Regardless of facts.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 15, 2020 01:59 PM (o2MD2)

515 The new Florida Atlantic University poll show undecided voters are breaking for Trump by a margin of 4:1



Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)

That's the election, right there.

Independent voters are similar no matter what the state.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 01:59 PM (HrMC1)

516 I left "Science" (i.e. academia) because of the preponderance of useless dreck and double-dipping allowed to sluice through the vaunted "Peer Review" process.

If all your "peers" are on the take... what the hell is the point?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 15, 2020 01:59 PM (/EuRN)

517 Can you imagine these klownz in the control room of a nuke station or even an industrial gas or petrochem facility?

[shudders]
Posted by: CZ = Happiness at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (eIig2)

I wouldn't trust them to sweep up behind a Golden Corral

Posted by: josephistan at September 15, 2020 01:59 PM (Izzlo)

518 >>> And everyone knows fish prefer Pepsi.

The science (and the Coke machine) is settled.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (hku12)

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Or did it?
Posted by: Chin music at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (69XrE)


Probably depends on how much diet soda was in the machine.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 02:00 PM (hku12)

519 Obama's terrible Iran Deal led to these peace deals.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 02:00 PM (HrMC1)

520 449 Science is not fake. They saved us from the ice age in the 70's. They saved us from alar and radon. They closed the ozone hole by banning Freon. They prevented DDT from destroying the world.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 15, 2020 01:51 PM (2DOZq)

They solved the energy crisis with cold fusion!

Posted by: Pons and Fleischmann at September 15, 2020 02:00 PM (SSJSf)

521 478 460 @RyanGirdusky

The new Florida Atlantic University poll show undecided voters are breaking for Trump by a margin of 4:1
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Rut Row.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 15, 2020 01:54 PM (UixLE)

But... But... CNN just said that Biden leads Trump by 10 points in Wisconsin! You believe CNN, don't you???

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 15, 2020 02:00 PM (Kpl3J)

522 @494

I have never encountered an undecided voter, I've heard tale of such a creature, I've largely relegated them to being like the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot or an Iowan.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 15, 2020 02:00 PM (RGRr5)

523 50 days.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 02:01 PM (XvwBl)

524 Jim Cramer just called that Pelosi wench "Crazy Nancy" to her face live on CNBC

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Now, that's science!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 15, 2020 02:01 PM (+y/Ru)

525 The new Florida Atlantic University poll show undecided voters are breaking for Trump by a margin of 4:1



Posted by: JackStraw at September 15, 2020 01:52 PM (ZLI7S)


Trump is the luckiest guy I know.

Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 02:01 PM (842IN)

526 You are not alone with having held that belief.
Indeed, a hobby of mine is, when speaking with friends, family,
colleagues, and the chick working the register at Casey's, is the
fallibility and corruptible nature of scientists.

The ego trips. The rivalries. The refusals to back down from a bad theory, because, come hell or high water, it is their theory, and they will defend it to the death!

Most
folk think scientists are not like the rest of us; that is wrong. They
are every bit as human as the carpenter building forms for a box culvert
down the street, but infinitely more vain, and at risk of corruption
because of it! When one imagines oneself to be righteous, one is capable
of anything.


Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (6JL3d)

==============================
Not to mention the fierce competition for government grants, and not only the US government funding, either.

Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2020 02:01 PM (Pqytn)

527 Biden still lying about Trump's "losers and suckers" remark and talking about Beau.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 02:01 PM (HrMC1)

528 Points #1 and #2 make some people very, very, very upset, but there are countless Americans that find the concept of freewill to be very upsetting.

Other than the American Religion (a degenerated offshoot of Christianity) and the regular heretic that popped up in the last few millennia (e.g. Pelagus, Erasmus, Arminius, Taylor et al) and were smacked down, the unregenerate "will" is "enslave to sin", loves sin and hates righteousness.

The will is "free" only in the sense that there is moral accountability, not that the person can turn off a penchant for sin.

The will is in enmity with God and thus isn't free in the sense that it can choose life and righteousness.

Luther and Edwards both wrote massive books on this topic.

Posted by: 🐧 at September 15, 2020 02:01 PM (C+evo)

529 469 442 What mother would name her son Gore?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 15, 2020 01:50 PM (pB6Gt)


Gore Vidal, Albert Gore's cousin.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 15, 2020 01:53 PM (9rYNN)
---------------------------------------
Heh.
Can't blame the mom.
IIRC, Gore Vidal was actually "Eugene."
He changed his name to Gore when he became a writer.
Gore was his mother's maiden name.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 15, 2020 02:01 PM (M/9m0)

530 Biden is undecided. He can't decide if it was him or somebody else that shit his pants.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 15, 2020 01:58 PM (9Om/r)


A favorite scene from The Simpsons (back when they were funny)

*family is in in the car, going on a trip, Abe is in the back seat*
Marge: "Grandpa, are you sitting on the warm apple pie?"
Abe Simpson: "I sure hope so!"

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 15, 2020 02:02 PM (PiwSw)

531 Any self respecting fish would demand Mountain Dew. Ya Hoo and all that.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 15, 2020 02:02 PM (/uaBM)

532 I've worked in both, so you should be scared.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 15, 2020 01:55 PM (aOdFB)

I don't about nukes, aside from the expected aspects, but I do know gases and hydrocarbons and combos thereof.

This stuff is unforgiving to the clueless.

Think hydrogen peroxide or acetylene...

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at September 15, 2020 02:02 PM (eIig2)

533 Sorry, you guys got it ALL wrong.

REAL science demands photographs of some chick wearing smart glasses and a lab coat peering super intently and Serious You Guys into a test tube filled with blue liquid. Bunsen burners and beakers in the background a plus.

Jeeze.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 15, 2020 02:02 PM (6kzAH)

534 Jim Cramer
@jimcramer
·
1h
It disgusts me that she is called "crazy Nancy." She has spent her whole life in public services. My critics didn't listen to why i mentioned it-because it is horrifying.

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 02:02 PM (XvwBl)

535 Scientology led the way. Now people can believe anything, the more ridiculous the more credible. Strange times indeed. We have become a nation of cults.
Posted by: Ruthless at September 15, 2020 01:56 PM (/uaBM)
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People have long believed in weird stuff. Look into the turn of the 20th century.

Look into New Harmony, NY in 1820s.

I mean seas of lemonade is pretty weird.

Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2020 02:02 PM (Eicbe)

536 I don't about nukes, aside from the expected aspects, but I do know gases and hydrocarbons and combos thereof.

This stuff is unforgiving to the clueless.

Think hydrogen peroxide or acetylene...
Posted by: CZ




Methane.

The silent killer.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 15, 2020 02:03 PM (3XqsM)

537 Dr. Jill Biden@DrBiden · 2h

#VoteForScience

@benshapiro 8m

Can men be women?

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2020 02:03 PM (cF8AT)

538 Biden is embarrassing himself right now

Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 02:03 PM (HrMC1)

539 Weird fake health science gave us Corn Flakes so it does have its good points.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 15, 2020 02:04 PM (2DOZq)

540 519 Obama's terrible Iran Deal led to these peace deals.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 02:00 PM (HrMC1)

I think so. It concentrated minds in the Middle East that they should ally themselves against Iran. What's the UAE's biggest threat - a country with a Med coastline that just might want to do business with them, or the big country across the Gulf from them that is actively pursuing nukes?

So a lot of deals and handshakes were done under the table between various countries and Israel as a result. I take nothing from Trump here. He saw this, and took advantage of it. So he's achieving something that other presidents and SecsState can only dream of.

And given our last ruler's foreign policy was aimed against two states: the United States and Israel, somewhere out there, He is fuming.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 02:04 PM (SSJSf)

541 Fish love seas of lemonade. It's a fact. Truth.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 15, 2020 02:04 PM (/uaBM)

542 534 Jim Cramer
@jimcramer

1h
It disgusts me that she is called "crazy Nancy." She has spent her whole life in public services. My critics didn't listen to why i mentioned it-because it is horrifying.
Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 02:02 PM (XvwBl)

I didn't buy the "Cramer called her Crazy Nancy" for a second.

He's always been a more or less squishy sort of center left Democrat.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 15, 2020 02:04 PM (/EuRN)

543 @537

And while we're at it, are anorexics fat?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 15, 2020 02:04 PM (RGRr5)

544 Obama's terrible Iran Deal led to these peace deals.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 02:00 PM (HrMC1)



In once sense, this is not wrong. Though perhaps it should be in reaction to.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2020 02:04 PM (yQpMk)

545 Science.... the discipline .... Is a rigid methodology for determining messurable repeatable truths.

Science.... the institution..... is a collection of organizations populated by human beings subject to the same shortcomings.... greed, jealousy, hubris, prejudice, anger, vengefullness..... as the rest of us.
Posted by: fixerupper at September 15, 2020 01:58 PM (nw6Hr)


A liberal defending AGW crap once said to me, "The scientists wouldn't push this just for their personal aggrandizement."

"We must know different scientists."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 02:04 PM (Tatvh)

546 Hydrocarbons and HV electricity are what scared me the most. Radiation is a pussycat compared to those.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 15, 2020 02:04 PM (aOdFB)

547 541 Fish love seas of lemonade. It's a fact. Truth.
Posted by: Ruthless at September 15, 2020 02:04 PM (/uaBM)

Only if there's acid in it.

Posted by: Trey Anastasio at September 15, 2020 02:04 PM (/EuRN)

548 Not to mention the fierce competition for government grants, and not only the US government funding, either.


Posted by: mrp at September 15, 2020 02:01 PM (Pqytn)


Absolutely true, and a topic covered in several of those books I mentioned up top!

And where money is concerned, the morality of men goes out the window!!

Posted by: Kinley Ardal at September 15, 2020 02:05 PM (6JL3d)

549 Trump is the luckiest guy I know.
Posted by: ... at September 15, 2020 02:01 PM (842IN)

-----------

Ive noticed that luck almost invariably follows hard work and planning.




Holy shit. Has Joe been drinking?

Posted by: fixerupper at September 15, 2020 02:05 PM (nw6Hr)

550 rick223 -- Anything exothermic. Very unfriendly.

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at September 15, 2020 02:05 PM (eIig2)

551 REAL science demands photographs of some chick wearing smart glasses and a lab coat peering super intently and Serious You Guys into a test tube filled with blue liquid. Bunsen burners and beakers in the background a plus.

Jeeze.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 15, 2020 02:02 PM


Surrounded by a supporting cast of characters as diverse as the cast of a PBS kids show. And at least one must be wearing a hijab.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 15, 2020 02:05 PM (ejd/p)

552 522 @494

I have never encountered an undecided voter, I've heard tale of such a creature, I've largely relegated them to being like the Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot or an Iowan.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 15, 2020 02:00 PM (RGRr5)


There are plenty of people who WILL vote who spend very little time thinking about politics.

They consider it their "civic duty" to go to the polls every four years, and what they do know is mostly Biden was that "nice man" who has been on teevee a lot. And Trump is that not nice man who has been on teevee a lot.

So when they wake up and pay attention this year, they'll see Biden stumbling around like old Vince who hangs around the general store, asking for change, with a vague odor of pee on his person. And Trump is smiling and joking and waving to raucous crowds waving American flags, and they'll decide then they like Trump better than Grampy Poopypants.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2020 02:05 PM (hku12)

553 I don't understand how they can just continue to lie and lie and LIE about what Trump said about veterans.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 02:06 PM (HrMC1)

554 Science is not fake. They saved us from the ice age in the 70's. They saved us from alar and radon. They closed the ozone hole by banning Freon. They prevented DDT from destroying the world.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 15, 2020 01:51 PM (2DOZq)

---
They were totally right about increasing the quality of the species by not letting unwanted members breed.

Three generations ending with C-student is enough!

Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2020 02:06 PM (Eicbe)

555 nood strzok

Posted by: m at September 15, 2020 02:06 PM (XvwBl)

556 Isn't Florida Atlantic University the home of the sooper-self-collapsing bridge?

Just hope the architecture department isn't in charge of the polling.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 15, 2020 02:06 PM (dfRN6)

557 Or people can and will operate in their own self-interest.

But what if the part of the brain that calculates self-interest is broken and selects things that are harmful?

Things that are definitely against one's own self interest: (short list)

Substance abuse,
Suicide,
Voting Democrat,
Partnering with abusive and violent people,
Getting a "studies" degree
Genital mutilation...

Posted by: 🐧 at September 15, 2020 02:07 PM (C+evo)

558 Biden is embarrassing himself right now
Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 02:03 PM


Just now?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 15, 2020 02:07 PM (ejd/p)

559 533 Sorry, you guys got it ALL wrong.

REAL science demands photographs of some chick wearing smart glasses and a lab coat peering super intently and Serious You Guys into a test tube filled with blue liquid. Bunsen burners and beakers in the background a plus.

Jeeze.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 15, 2020 02:02 PM (6kzAH)

What about a pencil skirt under the lab coat?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 02:07 PM (SSJSf)

560 dI haven't smell the stale urine and wine odor of MUMR today. Did he finally stroke out and meet Satan?

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 15, 2020 02:08 PM (o2MD2)

561 Obama's terrible Iran Deal led to these peace deals.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 02:00 PM (HrMC1)


In once sense, this is not wrong. Though perhaps it should be in reaction to.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 15, 2020 02:04 PM (yQpMk)

Not taking anything away from Trump--just emphasizing what a rotten negotiator Obama and his people were

Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 02:08 PM (HrMC1)

562 I don't understand how they can just continue to lie and lie and LIE about what Trump said about veterans.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 02:06 PM (HrMC1)
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It really isn't a "lie". It's simply a poorly sourced/mostly refuted claim.

The press only needs a couple people to chime in and Hunter Biden was never under investigation and that's "debunked", and if you bring it up later, only Putin wins.

So, it's not a lie. But in comparisons to all that the press has called "lies", it pretty much qualifies.

Posted by: Axeman at September 15, 2020 02:08 PM (Eicbe)

563 REAL science demands photographs of some chick wearing smart glasses and a lab coat peering super intently and Serious You Guys into a test tube filled with blue liquid. Bunsen burners and beakers in the background a plus.

Jeeze.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 15, 2020 02:02 PM


Holding the test tube up, showing it to a black guy. Colored liquid (liquid of color?) in the cooling jacket of a condenser to add that touch of authenticity. For extra authenticity, include a retort.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 15, 2020 02:08 PM (Tatvh)

564 Keeps talking about Beau and now tying his cancer to his military service

Posted by: JoeF. at September 15, 2020 02:09 PM (HrMC1)

565 If you think Scientific American is bad, read Behavioral Science & Policy. That's where they lay out the plans for whatever behavioral modification our betters decide the government should enact. It's... informative.

Posted by: Ms. Johnnie at September 15, 2020 02:09 PM (qB8iS)

566 If you tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. Or so the MSM et al. seem to think. Might have been true in Nazi Germany, but there are too many channels of information now for that shit to fly. Notice that the press ranks somewhere near the bottom on lists of approved entities, just below used car salesmen and drug dealers. They have earned that position. They should get a nice shiny medal. We could call it a Pull It Teaser or something.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 15, 2020 02:09 PM (/uaBM)

567 Tami: "I don't know how anyone is 'undecided' at this point. I mean JHC...do you guys know ANYONE that's undecided?"

I think Biden is voting Amtrack Caboose for president and Ukraine for Daughter-In-Law. So, I guess, technically, no.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 15, 2020 02:12 PM (HhXSr)

568 Southern fish prefer either Mt. Dew, Dr. Pepper or Mello Yello.
It's settled science!




Posted by: Archer at September 15, 2020 02:21 PM (gmo/4)

569 533 Sorry, you guys got it ALL wrong.

REAL science demands photographs of some chick wearing smart glasses and a lab coat peering super intently and Serious You Guys into a test tube filled with blue liquid. Bunsen burners and beakers in the background a plus.

Jeeze.
Posted by: Common Tater



Who's a red head with big bewbs, that strain against the fabric of the lab coat. Also, she is ONLY wearing the lab coat. Nothing else. #ILOVESCIENCE

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 15, 2020 02:23 PM (dV48Q)

570 202 I've never subscribed to Scientific American but I have bought individual issues. I did subscribe to Astronomy for a few years and loved it.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 15, 2020 01:24 PM (lgiXo)

Astronomy would get a little snarky in their articles. That's why I killed off my subscription to them. I will buy an individual copy every so often though.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 15, 2020 02:27 PM (SSJSf)

571 I'm with all of you that canceled SA. I did so myself in the early 2000's when they became so overtly political. This is (supposedly) a science magazine, for God's sake! Nowadays, I get my science news online from less (or slightly less) political viewpoints.

Posted by: jim at September 15, 2020 02:34 PM (ynpvh)

572 569
533 Sorry, you guys got it ALL wrong.



REAL science demands photographs of some chick wearing smart glasses
and a lab coat peering super intently and Serious You Guys into a test
tube filled with blue liquid. Bunsen burners and beakers in the
background a plus.



Jeeze.

Posted by: Common Tater


Who's a red head with big bewbs, that strain against the fabric of
the lab coat. Also, she is ONLY wearing the lab coat. Nothing else.
#ILOVESCIENCE

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 15, 2020 02:23 PM (dV48Q)

I saw a picture of some gal holding a soldering iron...from the hot part, supposedly soldering something electonic. Was also NOT using any anti-static countermeasures.

Posted by: jim at September 15, 2020 02:36 PM (ynpvh)

573 It disgusts me that she is called "crazy Nancy." She has spent her whole life in public services.

It never occurs to the throne-sniffer that she's called Crazy Nancy *because* she's spent her whole life grifting off the public.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 15, 2020 03:06 PM (naEeR)

574 REAL science demands photographs of some chick wearing smart glasses and a lab coat

Like this: https://preview.tinyurl.com/y5eljxdw

Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 15, 2020 03:09 PM (naEeR)

575
It disgusts me that she is called "crazy Nancy." She has spent her whole life in public services.


Would "grifting, lying bitch Nancy" make you feel better?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 15, 2020 03:11 PM (pNxlR)

576 While I appreciate your need to make this about Trump, he's just the Rorschach test that makes it unavoidable to see science as corrupt and dishonest. Start with human equality, racial crime, infinite genders, sexual dimorphism, James Watson, global warming, degenerate sodomy and ask yourself why all this all is not merely hidden but career killers for even putting a toe over the line of what neoliberalism allows. Then ask yourself why this is and who has the power to make it so.

Posted by: TrumpedUP at September 15, 2020 03:24 PM (zMisp)

577 39 Scientific American is neither scientific nor American. Discuss among yourselves.
Posted by: josephistan at September 15, 2020 01:04 PM (Izzlo)

Haha first thing I thought as well!

Posted by: Based Mute at September 15, 2020 03:42 PM (7CyhL)

578 I looked up their history just for laughs, because I wondered if they had endorsed Jefferson, and that gay German guy who stopped by to flack for Lewis and Wm Clark. No, they are not quite that old. But in their recent history there were a lot of rapid and brief appointments of new top officials. I believe that piece of information tells a great deal.


Outside gossip: The Univ of Va. will remove the campus statue of founding father George Rogers Clark, who took Vincennes through the frozen marshes and guaranteed that the Old Northwest would become part of the future US. Apparently he was mean to the Indians who he was at war with. I agree: he really was. And it really worked, too.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 15, 2020 04:00 PM (8IOEj)

579 WTF Scientific American endorsing a US President?!!
SA published by Springer Nature, 53% owned by family in Stuttgart, Germany. Talk about interference in US elections.
Stopped my subscription years ago when it was purchased by Euroweinies. Truly not scientific or American, per #39 above.

Posted by: KungPow at September 15, 2020 04:18 PM (/UfA5)

580 Scientific American should rename itself Science Fiction America their sounding at rediculous as the Union of Concerned Scientists their putting Profits and Politics ahead of Truth and Knowlage

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at September 15, 2020 04:27 PM (FLiOE)

581 Hey! 'member that time it got 2 degrees hotter and all the ice melted and the oceans rose up and swallowed the coastal cities?

Yeah, that was the shit.

Posted by: Paul in Tx at September 15, 2020 05:07 PM (kYyDC)

582 At the Ed with mrs Kim. She has a severe migraine

Posted by: Usntakim at September 20, 2020 08:47 PM (zjMWv)

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