September 12 [KT]

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Bear Fire Complex just west of Oroville

Today, on September 12, I thought it would be a good time to check in with Gerard Van der Leun at American Digest. It has been about two years since he had to scramble to escape with his life, his kitten and his car from the fire in Paradise, California. He also remembers 9/11. He is facing new challenges.

He seems to have a knack for balancing attention to the past, present and future. You can visit his site at the link above, where there is much more content, newest content first, in reverse order to the few links I am presenting below. His "back pages" are also worth visiting. This post has already moved to the back pages:

This was the scene when I went to this intersection for a doctor's appointment at 9:00 AM in Chico. This is what it was like for over a week after the Paradise fire of 2018 burned me out. It does not make for a relaxing morning.

It's now 11:00 AM and outside my windows, it is dark as a moonless night with a red glow all around. . .

More scenes of darkness shown and described, with comparisons to the Camp Fire that destroyed his home in Paradise.

I don't think I have enough strength or funds to go through all this again.

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This guy is brilliant.

How is everybody else doing? Are you or your loved ones affected by the fires?

Here's a remarkable essay on September 10, 2001:

I've been trying to remember September 10 but it's no go.

I know what I must have been doing, but I don't remember what I did. I kept no notes on that most ordinary of September days. I kept many notes on the day that followed and the days, weeks, months and years that followed that day. What I do know is that whatever might have followed September 10 was taken from us all that day never to be returned or recaptured only avenged. What I do know is that "justice being served" has no part in it, and never did.

I can, of course, assume what I did -- what I must have done -- on a routine Monday in Brooklyn Heights. . .

What the nation has become, through death by fire, bravado, war, forgetfulness, treason, and blunt stupidity could not have been foretold on September 10, but here we are. It is a difficult reality that has been dealt by the hands of fate; one that is still being played out. . .

Well, you need to read the whole thing to get the point.

Then some music, Gun Free Zone. Heh. Then Victor Davis Hanson on the origins of Western Civilization.

The Victor Davis Hanson video provides us with an opportunity to take a break from American Digest to check in with Trent Telenko on The Giants of Flight 93 - Plus 19 Years

Today, 9/11/2020, is the nineteenth anniversary of Al-Qaeda's terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center's twin towers in New York City and the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. Often forgotten or glossed over as time goes on were the actions of the passengers of Flight 93, whose resistance to Al-Qaeda's suicide-hijacker team brought the plane down in Shanksville, PA rather than Al-Qaeda's chosen target, saving the lives of other Americans at the price of their own.

On the 2018 anniversary of 9/11/2001, President Trump dedicated the National Park Service memorial to their actions that day. . .

Yet for all that, I have not seen anything matching what a friend of mine, Tom Holsinger, wrote about 9/11/2001 and the people on Flight 93 -- our fellow citizens who rose up and fought Al Qaeda, when all others, our military, our political leaders, our law enforcement, were frozen in surprise -- at the strategypage.com web site in October 2002. I have not read any written commemoration of their act, before or since, as moving as this passage:

Students of American character should pay close attention to Flight 93. A random sample of American adults was subjected to the highest possible stress and organized themselves in a terribly brief period, without benefit of training or group tradition other than their inherent national consciousness, to foil a well planned and executed terrorist attack. Recordings show the passengers and cabin crew of Flight 93 - ordinary Americans all - exemplified the virtues Americans hold most dear.

Certain death came for them by surprise but they did not panic and instead immediately organized, fought and robbed terror of its victory. They died but were not defeated.

Ordinary Americans confronted by enemies behaved exactly like the citizen-soldiers eulogized in Victor Davis Hanson's Carnage and Culture. . .

This post also describes a memorial that citizens spontaneously set up at the site. Worth reading. Worth remembering.

Van der Leun also posts the notes he made on September 11, 2001 from Brooklyn Heights. What he saw. What he thought.

And the Memorial at the White House this year.

The Missing

And a fascinating new essay posted just this morning, The Wind in the Heights.

Past, Present and Future

For more on September 11, 2001 don't forget the segment at the end of J.J. Sefton's Morning Report yesterday.

And concerning related current and future events, remember those peace deals.

Music

Hope you have a good weekend. Treat each other well.


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1 First?

Posted by: BifBewalski Moron at September 12, 2020 11:24 AM (VcFUs)

2 I called the corgies

Posted by: BifBewalski 🂡Moron at September 12, 2020 11:24 AM (VcFUs)

3 Have any Democrats said anything outrageously stupid or ignorant about 9/11?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 12, 2020 11:24 AM (lgiXo)

4 American Digest is the best site on the internet. (well, Ace, too...)
Just go look...

JWM

Posted by: jwm at September 12, 2020 11:25 AM (HnUoF)

5 crickets

Posted by: klaftern at September 12, 2020 11:26 AM (RuIsu)

6 I believe, going from memory, that there was a former Israeli special forces commander on Flight 93.

Posted by: mnw at September 12, 2020 11:28 AM (Cssks)

7 No fires here, just hurricanes. Another one on the way.

Posted by: Javems at September 12, 2020 11:28 AM (ofIwF)

8 I lurvs me some fourth verse of the Battle Hymn of the Republic.

Also choirs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Makes for a tighter sausage at September 12, 2020 11:29 AM (xVQEQ)

9 Have any Democrats said anything outrageously stupid or ignorant about 9/11?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 12, 2020 11:24 AM (lgiXo)


"CAIR was founded after 9/11, because they recognized that some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties."

Or did you mean strictly this year?

Posted by: hogmartin at September 12, 2020 11:29 AM (t+qrx)

10 Rotten Tomatoes "Cuties" ratings.

Critics: 88%

Audience: 3%

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cuties

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 12, 2020 11:30 AM (+y/Ru)

11 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 11:31 AM (arJlL)

12 Thank you

Posted by: A lotta nerve at September 12, 2020 11:31 AM (JdcHc)

13 8
I lurvs me some fourth verse of the Battle Hymn of the Republic.


Last verse does it for me.

In the beauty of the lilies...

Posted by: pep at September 12, 2020 11:31 AM (v16oJ)

14 Hiya KT !

Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 11:32 AM (arJlL)

15 Best decision I made in a long time was to leave California last year. We've only had 1 fire here in the past month or so and that is an hour away up in Santa Fe

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 12, 2020 11:32 AM (ROLxQ)

16 10
Rotten Tomatoes "Cuties" ratings.



Critics: 88%



Audience: 3%



https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cuties

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler


I did not know that Roman Polanski was on Rotten Tomatoes.

Posted by: pep at September 12, 2020 11:32 AM (v16oJ)

17 LOLed at the glass

Posted by: vmom 2020 - 13 Hours Book Review at September 12, 2020 11:32 AM (nUhF0)

18 Have any Democrats said anything outrageously stupid or ignorant about 9/11?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 12, 2020 11:24 AM (lgiXo)
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JOEY THE PASTE BIDEN NOW SAYS HE WILL BE TOUGH ON CHINA. I CAN ONLY ASSUME THIS MEANS THAT JOEY IS GOING TO INCREASE HIS BRIBE FEES.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 12, 2020 11:32 AM (pw+jk)

19 Hiya, JT

Posted by: KT at September 12, 2020 11:33 AM (BVQ+1)

20 Have any Democrats said anything outrageously stupid or ignorant about 9/11?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 12, 2020 11:24 AM (lgiXo)

You mean today? It's not noon, yet.

Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 11:33 AM (X/Pw5)

21 Even the Japanese in WW2 knew the west coast was vulnerable to out of control fires. They tried to use balloons. We fortunately were able to use B-29s as our fire starters.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 12, 2020 11:33 AM (2DOZq)

22 Gerard Vander Leun is the most underrated blogger I know.

Posted by: creeper at September 12, 2020 11:34 AM (XxJt1)

23 Paul krugman said something really tone deaf and stupid, but it was just another day ending in 'y'.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at September 12, 2020 11:35 AM (xblh9)

24 I remember following the Paradise fire closely, and annoying some people on the net by pointing out that this wasn't a purely "natural" catastrophe, that it was directly caused by longstanding California policies and attitudes. And that there was a reason that huge fires like this, that burn down entire towns, rarely happen elsewhere. (I do recall a bad fire in the Great Smokey Mountains once)

Several of us pointed out that if California didn't change its ways, events like this were going to keep happening, over and over. Well, two years later, here we are.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2020 11:37 AM (V2Yro)

25 KT great ONT the other night.

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2020 11:37 AM (OjZpE)

26 I lurvs me some fourth verse of the Battle Hymn of the Republic.

Last verse does it for me.

In the beauty of the lilies...

Posted by: pep at September 12, 2020 11:31 AM (v16oJ)

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Yep, that was the one I was thinking of, although my 29 year old memory could certainly have the particulars screwed up.

The reverence is nice.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Makes for a tighter sausage at September 12, 2020 11:37 AM (xVQEQ)

27 Thanks runner.
I'm here, read the content and the comments.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 12, 2020 11:37 AM (sd8p8)

28 I was finally able to watch the Flight 93 movie on the 10th anniversary, and it is worth watching. Brave people.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2020 11:38 AM (bDqIh)

29 The woke version of they Battle Hymn...

Posted by: TeleSkier at September 12, 2020 11:38 AM (xZEAj)

30 KT great ONT the other night.
Posted by: Skip

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 11:38 AM (arJlL)

31 Gavin Newsome explains why you should never vote Dmocrat.

The Hill
@thehill
CA Gov. Gavin Newsom: "California, folks, is America fast-forward."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 12, 2020 11:39 AM (+y/Ru)

32 Today I learned movie critics are pedo lovers or pedos themselves.

Except the Critical Drinker.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Sentenced For Stalking Zooey Deschanel Without Wearing a Mask at September 12, 2020 11:39 AM (+dsLj)

33 Even the Japanese in WW2 knew the west coast was
vulnerable to out of control fires. They tried to use balloons. We
fortunately were able to use B-29s as our fire starters.


Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 12, 2020 11:33 AM

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The Japanese did manage to start some fires with their balloons and they killed six people IIRC with their bomb balloons.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 12, 2020 11:40 AM (JUOKG)

34 Speaking of clueless - saw this morning that New York Corporate leaders are finally calling on Deh Blaaahsio to do something about crime. But they were fine with all of it and said nothing up until now - well you're a day late and a dollar short, idiots. But it shows that even they're finally getting scared about how fast and how far NYC is falling.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 12, 2020 11:41 AM (V2Yro)

35 Air quality index update from the mid Willamette valley this morning: 512 "Beyond AQI." So hazardous .

Posted by: Beartooth at September 12, 2020 11:42 AM (PJtXD)

36 I believe, going from memory, that there was a former Israeli special forces commander on Flight 93.
Posted by: mnw at September 12, 2020 11:28 AM (Cssks)


AA 11. Daniel Lewin. Tried to break into cockpit.


(looked it up, because I too remembered the story)

There was a Jewish guy who stormed the cockpit with others, left a baby daughter behind. She is now 19. He switched planes at the last minute. Fate....

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 11:42 AM (zr5Kq)

37 I can't imagine what it must be like to be in the path or even the vicinity of a massive fire.
Stay safe all of you. This might be one of the few legitimate reasons to wear a mask.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 12, 2020 11:42 AM (sd8p8)

38 The one on flight 93.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 11:42 AM (zr5Kq)

39 Movie review of Cuties:

"Cuties dramatizes what people of color and immigrants endure as a result of isolation and ghettoization, of not being represented culturally and politically."

Lulz

Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Sentenced For Stalking Zooey Deschanel Without Wearing a Mask at September 12, 2020 11:43 AM (+dsLj)

40 Air quality index update from the mid Willamette valley this morning: 512 "Beyond AQI." So hazardous .
Posted by: Beartooth at September 12, 2020 11:42 AM (PJtXD)
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Just outside my house, the particulate matter in the air is looking like about a million parts per million.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 12, 2020 11:44 AM (Rk6Cp)

41 The woke version of they Battle Hymn...
Posted by: TeleSkier


Well, let's start with the name.

"Battle"? Triggering. "Peaceful Protest", instead.

"Hymn"? AYFKM? "Song".

"Republic" is okay, but "The Republic"? That implies one of the many republics is better than the others. Not Inclusive.

Now let's start on the lyrics to the Peaceful Protest Song of All Republics...

Posted by: mikeski at September 12, 2020 11:44 AM (P1f+c)

42 Rotten Tomatoes "Cuties" ratings.

Critics: 88%

Audience: 3%

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cuties

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

I did not know that Roman Polanski was on Rotten Tomatoes.
Posted by: pep at September 12, 2020 11:32 AM (v16oJ)


Disney's cartoon version of Alice in Wonderland is rightfully considered a classic. It's stunning art, well acted, and tells an amusing tale.

I've never read the book, and the DVD version (which has been watched by my kids many times over) includes discussions of Lewis Carroll and his "fondness" for the girls of the Little family.

Now, I think there's little doubt (pun intended) that Lewis was a pedophile. In the truest sense of the word, even if he never touched any of the girls. And here's this Dinsey "story" being told, the behind the scenes extras on the DVD, doing their damnedest to paint Carroll's interest in the girls in the best possible light.

Of course there are also the well-worn tales of Nickelodeon channel (and Disney channel) having pedos all up and down the productions of their kids shows... and the well worn tales of Hollywood child actors and actresses being passed around like candy.

So I think the disconnect between critics and audiences of this latest Netflix show is, the critics have long been on board with the pedo stuff. Audiences have been duped into not knowing it was going on, for the most part, and now here's this Netflix film, and it's being thrown right in their faces.

I'm shocked, SHOCKED to discover there's pedo stuff going on in this establishment!

Here are your Dan Schneider shows, sir.

Oh thank you very much.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 11:45 AM (hku12)

43 I lurvs me some fourth verse of the Battle Hymn of the Republic.

Last verse does it for me.

In the beauty of the lilies...

Posted by: pep

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me;
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free!
While God is marching on.

When Joanie Phony Baez sang it, she changed it to "let us live to make men free" diluting the power of a great song.

In my opinion, this is one of the two greatest political propaganda songs, the other being Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 12, 2020 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)

44 If you haven't seen the Benghazi movie, 13 hours, that is another must see. It was also 9/11.

It really makes you see just how f'ed up the Obama administration was and why never, ever want to trust a left wing government with out lives and safety every again.
It was a foreign country but judging by how these democratic governors and mayors ar treating the riots, it is the exact same way of thinking.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 12, 2020 11:46 AM (sd8p8)

45 "Cuties" is child porn. The pervs are always trying to sell their sleaze and sexual exploitation as "Art".

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 11:47 AM (zr5Kq)

46 Still haven't gotten in touch with aunt and uncle in Winston, OR.

Posted by: Infidel at September 12, 2020 11:49 AM (R4aZ2)

47 Just outside my house, the particulate matter in the air is looking like about a million parts per million.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task

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Same here. You can taste the air now. Saw cars at Costco yesterday blanketed in ash. My neighborhood ash level is maybe 1/16 inch. Nothing l like Mt. St. Helens went of course but still very gritty.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 12, 2020 11:49 AM (PJtXD)

48 Movie review of Cuties:

"Cuties dramatizes what people of color and immigrants endure as a result of isolation and ghettoization, of not being represented culturally and politically."

Lulz
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Sentenced For Stalking Zooey Deschanel Without Wearing a Mask at September 12, 2020 11:43 AM (+dsLj)


I guess that's the tack. Under-represented PoCs in Hollywood is the new black.

So anything goes. As long as it expresses the "culture and politics" of the under-represented, it's going to be criticism-proof.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 11:50 AM (hku12)

49 Yes, "United 93" will make you cry, and "13 Hours" will make you very angry.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2020 11:50 AM (bDqIh)

50 Ironically, on September 10, 2001, Secretary Rumsfeld declared "War on Bureaucracy." I was part of his team. The next day, someone else declared war on his bureaucracy, and Mr. Rumsfeld found the Global War on Terror to be a higher priority. Two friends died that day, Tamera Thurman and Barbara Olsen. RIP. I was in Pentagon 3E1034.

Posted by: Another Kansan at September 12, 2020 11:50 AM (fHhon)

51 When Joanie Phony Baez sang it, she changed it to "let us live to make men free" diluting the power of a great song.

In my opinion, this is one of the two greatest political propaganda songs, the other being Brother, Can You Spare a Dime?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 12, 2020 11:46 AM (+y/Ru)

How many contemporary singers choke on the line from Amazing Grace that saved a wretch like me?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 12, 2020 11:50 AM (lgiXo)

52 Outstanding post, KT, thank you, I'll be reading his blog for the rest of today.
Never read him before, much appreciated!

Posted by: Pony Tail at September 12, 2020 11:50 AM (dLjzo)

53 Same here. You can taste the air now. Saw cars at Costco yesterday blanketed in ash. My neighborhood ash level is maybe 1/16 inch. Nothing l like Mt. St. Helens went of course but still very gritty.
Posted by: Beartooth at September 12, 2020 11:49 AM (PJtXD)
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At least I'm not getting ash deposit here. Where are you? I'm in SW Portland.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 12, 2020 11:51 AM (Rk6Cp)

54 Amazing cover of God Bless the USA, performed by Home Free (USAF band), featuring Mr. Lee Greenwood his own self.(This was recorded in separate studios due to the Plandemic. It was released just in time for July 4 celebration this year.)
I have to post the actual link in another field because pixy hates firefox.

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 11:51 AM (DJFLF)

55
Enjoy.
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https://tinyurl.com/y3u4jbfm

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 11:52 AM (DJFLF)

56 I do feel for all the West Coasties who are experiencing the skyless sky.

We had that for a few weeks here, and even last weekend our skies were darkened from fires in Utah and Californica... after having had about a week of clear blue skies.

Today it's back to blue (we had rain and clouds and cold since Tuesday), and I'm grateful. I guess I'm not going to take it for granted anymore. A blue sky is a blessing from God.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 11:52 AM (hku12)

57 pixy is a stern taskmaster

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 11:52 AM (DJFLF)

58 I still think of "The War on Terror" as Beamer's War.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 11:52 AM (yQpMk)

59
Still haven't gotten in touch with aunt and uncle in Winston, OR.
Posted by: Infidel at September 12, 2020 11:49 AM (R4aZ2)


My brother lost his place up on the Santiam. He got out and is with family out of Bend.

I actually saw the sun yesterday, the smoke thinned enough to see the orange disc and I felt a bit of heat.
It is cold today and has been since the smoke came. The forecast for yesterday was in the 90's, it barely got to the 70's. I think this is a local example of Sagan's Nuclear Winter.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2020 11:52 AM (WyVLE)

60 Our bad 140,000 acre wildfire was finally ended by a week of rain. And just as I was finishing my ark and calling the animals together.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 12, 2020 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)

61 I still think of "The War on Terror" as Beamer's War.


Why him, particularly ?

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 11:53 AM (zr5Kq)

62 At least I'm not getting ash deposit here. Where are you? I'm in SW Portland.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 12, 2020 11:51 AM

North of Salem a bit.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 12, 2020 11:53 AM (PJtXD)

63 I read that Cuties is supposed to be about a girl being freed from her family's Muslim restrictions which most of us would agree are stifling to a normal girl child's development of self worth.
Ironically,instead, made a movie basically endorsing those views by showing how deviant and corrupt western society can be.
This is why it needs to be overwhelmingly rejected.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 12, 2020 11:53 AM (sd8p8)

64 When Joanie Phony Baez sang it, she changed it to "let us live to make men free" diluting the power of a great song.

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Yeah, that's silly in the same way that *ME* wearing a mask can keep *YOU* from being exposed to a cold virus.

Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 12, 2020 11:53 AM (hpyXM)

65 Why him, particularly ?


Shock and despair answered with "Let's roll."

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 11:54 AM (yQpMk)

66 Nothing agains Todd Beamer, but I am always vary of Horst Wessel type worship. He was one of the group of people.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 11:54 AM (zr5Kq)

67 31 it really angers me that the Left is blaming on "climate change" the fires that are the result of their criminally negligent foresting practices

Posted by: vmom 2020 - 13 Hours Book Review at September 12, 2020 11:54 AM (nUhF0)

68 Nothing agains Todd Beamer, but I am always vary of Horst Wessel type worship. He was one of the group of people.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 11:54 AM (zr5Kq)



As with most heroes.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 11:55 AM (yQpMk)

69 *vary ? weary

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 11:55 AM (zr5Kq)

70 My SIL is a flight attendant for United. Flight 93 was her normal route. She should have been on that plane that day but by some miracle wasn't. She lost a lot of friends that day.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 12, 2020 11:55 AM (9Om/r)

71 The problem with California is they don't allow harvesting of dead falls or the clearing of underbrush from their forests. Manzanita is an understory growth and the wood is as hard as, if not harder than Locust. Once it catches on fire, it's Katy bar the door.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at September 12, 2020 11:55 AM (xblh9)

72 *don't yell at me grammar nazis

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 11:55 AM (zr5Kq)

73 Ironically, on September 10, 2001, Secretary Rumsfeld declared "War on Bureaucracy." I was part of his team. The next day, someone else declared war on his bureaucracy, and Mr. Rumsfeld found the Global War on Terror to be a higher priority. Two friends died that day, Tamera Thurman and Barbara Olsen. RIP. I was in Pentagon 3E1034.
Posted by: Another Kansan at September 12, 2020 11:50 AM (fHhon)


I'm sorry your friends died. I know there are others here on this site for whom 9/11 was more personal.

I still don't know what to make of Rumsfeld. He seemed to want to be responsible in the use of force, and to do so with as little exposure to risk for Americans as possible.

I wonder if at some point the whole thing got to be entirely beyond his control. Or if he was always part of the Perpetual War crowd. I don't know.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 11:55 AM (hku12)

74 My SIL is a flight attendant for United. Flight 93 was her normal route. She should have been on that plane that day but by some miracle wasn't. She lost a lot of friends that day.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 12, 2020 11:55 AM (9Om/r)

wow

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 11:56 AM (zr5Kq)

75 Here is yesterday's satellite feed for the Northwest, GOES 16-17

Lots of smoke. More smoke that bacon cooked by a 7 year old.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y575hm3d

Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2020 11:56 AM (WyVLE)

76 Hiya Kallisto !

Is that Lee Gr

Oh, I thought you meant Lee Hazelwood.

I wondered wtf happened to his hair.

Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 11:57 AM (arJlL)

77 Posted by: stupid emoji at September 12, 2020 11:54 AM (YW1Wp)

Oh absolutely! None of the really smart people on this blog believe the official story. Because it is obvious that the Deep State can keep secrets and maintain a conspiracy involving thousands of people over 20 years.


Yup. Occam's Razor backs you up!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 11:59 AM (xT2tT)

78 Nancy Pelosi: Historic Peace Deals Achieved By Trump Are Just 'Distractions' From Virus

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Diagnosis: brain rot secondary to lies and hypocrisy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 12, 2020 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

79 >>Rotten Tomatoes "Cuties" ratings.

Critics: 88%

Audience: 3%
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Think it was Christian Toto who explained why movie critics like weird and outrageous movies: they watch movies all the time and get really bored with the sameness. When something striking comes along, such as an uber-violent or incredibly transgressive one, they embrace it because it managed to hold their interest. They are also amoral Lefty scum, of course, but with "Cuties" they can embrace a newish for mainstream film genre: R-rated "kids" film!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2020 11:59 AM (bDqIh)

80 Nothing agains Todd Beamer, but I am always vary of Horst Wessel type worship. He was one of the group of people.
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 11:54 AM (zr5Kq)


Nobody remembers the names of any of the other rides on the night of April 18, 1775 (yes, I had to look it up). People only remember Paul Revere.

Why?

Because, that's why.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:00 PM (hku12)

81

Nancy Pelosi: Historic Peace Deals Achieved By Trump Are Just "Distractions" From Virus

www.weaselzippers.us/?p=455700

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2020 12:00 PM (63Dwl)

82 The problem with California is they don't allow harvesting of dead falls or the clearing of underbrush from their forests. Manzanita is an understory growth and the wood is as hard as, if not harder than Locust. Once it catches on fire, it's Katy bar the door.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at September 12, 2020 11:55 AM (xblh9)
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Shoot, in the mid-90s, you could see how sick Tahoe National Forest was all the way from Reno. Dead trees everywhere from a combination of drought and insect infestation that should have been logged out but weren't because of "ecology".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 12, 2020 12:00 PM (Rk6Cp)

83 Why do commenters and bloggers on this site accept the official narrative of 9/11?


here we go...



Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:01 PM (zr5Kq)

84 I always wondered whether the passengers regained control of flight 93 from the terrorists, only to be tragically shot down by US aircraft? The whole sequence of events has been put down the memory hole, and the cockpit tapes aren't available.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2020 12:01 PM (eakac)

85 On September 10, 2001 my wife and I were living in Mountain View, CA. The 10th is her birthday. We celebrated that night, went to bed and were woken up the following morning (we took Tuesday off to recover) by a phone call from her sister asking us if we had the TV on. It was about 8:00AM PDT, so several hours after the actual attacks.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2020 12:01 PM (3H9h1)

86 The fire we just had and is still smoldering here in NorCal was started by a lightning strike...So unless lightning strikes are now caused by climate change, they are full of s**t

Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2020 12:02 PM (Zmnko)

87 CBD, how come that stupid emoji person gets to have a stupid emoji for a nic?
And, that was a serious comment?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 12, 2020 12:02 PM (sd8p8)

88 8 years of Clinton gave us 9/11

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:03 PM (zr5Kq)

89 Nobody remembers the names of any of the other rides on the night of April 18, 1775 (yes, I had to look it up). People only remember Paul Revere.

Why?

Because, that's why.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:00 PM (hku12)
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My high school history teacher's theory was that Revere had a cooler-sounding name than the other chaps.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 12, 2020 12:04 PM (Rk6Cp)

90
Nobody remembers the names of any of the other rides on the night of April 18, 1775 (yes, I had to look it up). People only remember Paul Revere.

Why?


Because none of their names rhymed with "Listen, my children, and you shall hear "

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2020 12:04 PM (63Dwl)

91 Nobody remembers the names of any of the other rides on the night of April 18, 1775 (yes, I had to look it up). People only remember Paul Revere.

Why?


*************

April 18, 1775 - a limerick

Now before we start placing the blame
Why Revere gets too much of the fame
On that glorious day
Two men each had their say
Paul Revere and old Will What's-His-Name

Posted by: Muldoon at September 12, 2020 12:05 PM (Fc5rx)

92 Think it was Christian Toto who explained why movie critics like weird and outrageous movies: they watch movies all the time and get really bored with the sameness. When something striking comes along, such as an uber-violent or incredibly transgressive one, they embrace it because it managed to hold their interest. They are also amoral Lefty scum, of course, but with "Cuties" they can embrace a newish for mainstream film genre: R-rated "kids" film!
Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2020 11:59 AM (bDqIh)


Which is perfectly understandable, regarding movie reviewers wanting new and different.

I do too.

There just seems to be a blind spot for some TYPES of different. Particularly, anything that "subverts expectations."

I know that's now a joke meme, since Roundhead Rian Johnson abused the term for his stupid Star Wars movie, but there's some truth to the basic human need for new and different. It lights up other parts of the brain. Parts that like being lit up.

The trick is to make sure the thinking part of the brain has a say in where things go. And that, in a nutshell, is what is wrong with MUCH of what happens in humans. Too much limbic system (and others), not enough cerebral cortex.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:06 PM (hku12)

93 *don't yell at me grammar nazis
Posted by: runner

You could sing that to the tune of

Don't cry for me Argentina

Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 12:06 PM (arJlL)

94 Posted by: Muldoon at September 12, 2020 12:05 PM (Fc5rx)


I'll bet you can rhyme in your sleep, Doctor.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 12:06 PM (yQpMk)

95 CBD, how come that stupid emoji person gets to have a stupid emoji for a nic?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 12, 2020 12:02 PM (sd8p

I guess because his browser supports those emojis. And because it's more anonymous and more irritating and childish.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 12:07 PM (xT2tT)

96 Woke up this morning in southeast NM to an oddly brown/red sun that'd already risen.

Turns out the west coast smoke plume is blowing good and hard across Arizona and mostly the southern half of New Mexico.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 12, 2020 12:07 PM (ZSK0i)

97 Lee greenwood could get a job at an airport guiding in night flights

Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 12:07 PM (arJlL)

98 Nobody remembers the names of any of the other rides on the night of April 18, 1775 (yes, I had to look it up). People only remember Paul Revere.

Why?


*************

April 18, 1775 - a limerick

Now before we start placing the blame
Why Revere gets too much of the fame
On that glorious day
Two men each had their say
Paul Revere and old Will What's-His-Name
Posted by: Muldoon at September 12, 2020 12:05 PM (Fc5rx)


Best. Poem. About. April 18, 1775. EVAR!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:08 PM (hku12)

99 My husband won't watch anything on 9/11. It makes him physically ill. I remember both of us sitting in front of the TV saying how everything was changed, we couldn't go back now. His tears streaming down his face.

Posted by: Megthered at September 12, 2020 12:08 PM (SM/op)

100 You could sing that to the tune of

Don't cry for me Argentina
Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 12:06 PM (arJlL)

LOL ! you are right :


Don't cry for me Grammar nazis
The truth is I never listen
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I like my grammar
So , keep your distance

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:08 PM (zr5Kq)

101 Paul was highly revered for his crafstmanship working with silver. Historic silver known to have been worked by him are pretty spendy.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 12, 2020 12:08 PM (eakac)

102 19 years later are people ready to have an honest and adult conversation about it including the years leading up to it and the 19 years that followed 9/11



So what's the secret? What's the scoop ??

Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 12:09 PM (X/Pw5)

103 don't yell at me grammar nazis
Posted by: runner

You could sing that to the tune of

Don't cry for me Argentina
Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 12:06 PM (arJlL)
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Lord, now I've got that going "round in my head.

You are a bad person.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 12, 2020 12:09 PM (Rk6Cp)

104 Emoji clown dude. Let's us hear what you think. Did we deserve it?

Posted by: USNtakim at September 12, 2020 12:10 PM (0OmEj)

105 Nobody remembers the names of any of the other rides on the night of April 18, 1775 (yes, I had to look it up). People only remember Paul Revere.

Why?

Because, that's why.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:00 PM (hku12)
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My high school history teacher's theory was that Revere had a cooler-sounding name than the other chaps.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 12, 2020 12:04 PM (Rk6Cp)

Because none of their names rhymed with "Listen, my children, and you shall hear "
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2020 12:04 PM (63Dwl)


He also looked like Bob Hope.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2cbvw5b

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:10 PM (hku12)

106 > ... because it's more anonymous and more irritating and childish.

Clown and penguin are 2 peas in a pod. Probably the same person.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2020 12:11 PM (3H9h1)

107 106 Nobody remembers the names of any of the other rides on the night of April 18, 1775 (yes, I had to look it up). People only remember Paul Revere.


William Dawes

Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2020 12:12 PM (Zmnko)

108 So what's the secret? What's the scoop ??
Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 12:09 PM (X/Pw5)
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What's the buzz? Tell me what's a-happenin'.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 12, 2020 12:12 PM (Rk6Cp)

109 For some reason, I thought you had to have a Platinum Membership to be able to use emojis with Pixie.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at September 12, 2020 12:12 PM (xblh9)

110 I guess because his browser supports those emojis. And because it's more anonymous and more irritating and childish.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 12:07 PM (xT2tT)

And impossible to just cut and paste for most of us.

or we get an error.

So I don't even bother 'talking' to it anymore.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2020 12:12 PM (NgKpN)

111 Obviously the Wuhan Flu isn't lethal enough.

The trolls are still alive.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:13 PM (md0Us)

112 19 years later are people ready to have an honest and adult conversation about it including the years leading up to it and the 19 years that followed 9/11



So what's the secret? What's the scoop ??
Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 12:09 PM (X/Pw5)


There's credible evidence that the security cameras at the Pentagon were tampered with. There appears to be a missing frame, and not just missing, but also REPLACED after the fact, before it got released.

Why?

I don't know. I don't believe anything other than the airplane that is supposed to have hit the Pentagon, hit the Pentagon, but they doctored the tape. Of that I'm sure.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:13 PM (hku12)

113 I wondered wtf happened to his hair.

Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 11:57 AM (arJlL)

his voice is still strong, amazing

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 12:14 PM (DJFLF)

114 No word if this is Florida Man

"Man blows up part of house while chasing fly."

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:14 PM (md0Us)

115
The trolls are alive with the sound of mucus.
835;

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 12, 2020 12:14 PM (Rk6Cp)

116 Nice to know I'm not the only one who despises emojis for a nick.

Too cute by half.

Posted by: creeper at September 12, 2020 12:14 PM (XxJt1)

117 What's the buzz? Tell me what's a-happenin'.


Why should you want to know?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 12:14 PM (yQpMk)

118 >>There just seems to be a blind spot for some TYPES of different. Particularly, anything that "subverts expectations."


I would guess it has to do with them being part of a profession/industry largely populated by deviants?

If you review a film that artfully normalizes/forgives one of your kinks, all the better.

It is odd how so many Lefties have chosen to defend "Cuties," though. Saw one who had the usual LGBTQ buzzwords in her twitter bio, and she likened hate for "Cuties" to suppression of queer kids coming out. Of course. It's not about an 11 year old gyrating for the camera, it's that our current LGBTQ activists and allies encourage and demand kids explore their sexual identity early, often, and for public consumption, whether it's "Desmond is Amazing," "I Am Jazz," or "Cuties."

Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2020 12:14 PM (bDqIh)

119 Clown and penguin are 2 peas in a pod. Probably the same person.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2020 12:11 PM (3H9h1)


They are not ? I thought that was the same person.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:15 PM (zr5Kq)

120 April 18, 1775 - a limerick

Now before we start placing the blame
Why Revere gets too much of the fame
On that glorious day
Two men each had their say
Paul Revere and old Will What's-His-Name
Posted by: Muldoon at September 12, 2020 12:05 PM (Fc5rx)


Best. Poem. About. April 18, 1775. EVAR!
Posted by: BurtTC


***

Dang.
I can't wait for April 19th's!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:15 PM (axyOa)

121 106 Nobody remembers the names of any of the other rides on the night of April 18, 1775 (yes, I had to look it up). People only remember Paul Revere.
-----

William Dawes
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2020 12:12 PM (Zmnko)


Show off.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:15 PM (hku12)

122 Best. Poem. About. April 18, 1775. EVAR!
Posted by: BurtTC


***

Dang.
I can't wait for April 19th's!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:15 PM (axyOa)


Yikes! I don't think I'm ready for that one.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:15 PM (hku12)

123
Show off.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:15 PM (hku12)

I recently say a show on the revolutionary war...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2020 12:16 PM (Zmnko)

124 "After everything we know and have been through the last 5 years with
Trump, why does Teh Horde still take at face value the official
narrative of 9/11?"

idk what the official Teh Horde stance is on globalist involvement in 9/11. As with the plandemic, we prefer to think they only took advantage of the event (never let a crisis go to waste), as opposed to it being a manufactured crisis, to cover ?? whatever was destroyed in building 9?


The surveillance state (Stellar Wind) was well under way before 9/11/01, but that event ushered in new levels of secret spying ... on congress and judges, and then contractors were given access to all of it? wtf? imo, trillions of wealth of our nation has been extracted via various covert means ... tax free foundations, bailouts, secret contracts, five eyes spying/coercion on our own officials, missing billions never accounted for ...


The globalists are certainly capable of such attacks, and have at the least, certainly used events to further their agenda, and bury their criminal activities. The constant coup is the clearest evidence, as other evidence is actively wiped away by the investigators themselves.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 12, 2020 12:16 PM (Cus5s)

125 So, yesterday there was a pretty large spread outage of Internet for those of us that use Google fiber as a provider. In my area about 85% of kids in my children's middle school could not get online to do school. It was out from about 8:45 am until about 6-7 in the evening. We also had a cool front come through so it was a very pleasant day in CenTex. The upshot is there were tons of kids outside playing and interacting together in person! It was nice to see so many kids out and socializing. And no masks except 1 kid.

Posted by: lin-duh en nui at September 12, 2020 12:16 PM (UUBmN)

126 (checks to make sure we're past 100)

There's an All-Clad factory seconds and additional 15% off sale thread at Slickdeals if any cooking types are interested in that sort of thing. I'm probably not going to be around for our food thread so I'm mentioning it here.

Link to slickdeals thread in the name field. Some pretty tempting Made in the USA stuff there.

Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 12, 2020 12:16 PM (+0ZMY)

127 Lovely. "The Battle Hymn of the Republic"

Written by a violent, vengeful, psychopath 19th century blaspheming Unitarian SJW who wished genocide on all of the people of the South and said that this was God's Will.

That song is pure evil.
Its a disgrace that it is glorified here.

Posted by: 🐧 at September 12, 2020 12:16 PM (C+evo)

128 April 18 1942 the US bombed Japan.
April 18 1943 the US shoots down Admiral Yamamoto.

So April 18 is a pretty good day for the US.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:17 PM (md0Us)

129 William Dawes
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2020 12:12 PM (Zmnko)


Show off.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:15 PM (hku12)

He also rode, and his but was raw,
yes, the midnight ride of William Dawes?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2020 12:17 PM (NgKpN)

130 I watched a video on his site about the fire last night. Part of the problem was a poor evacuation route. Many people living back in wooded areas that didn't get a warning. He suspected many of those bodies would never be found. And poor management of state resources. They know tgere will be fires yet fo nothing to try and mitigate them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2020 12:17 PM (YynYJ)

131 Sit down, shut up, and listen, y'all
'Bout the midnight ride of Willy Dawes

Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 12, 2020 12:17 PM (+0ZMY)

132 VDH is a treasure.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 12, 2020 12:18 PM (wPVhA)

133 That song is pure evil.
Its a disgrace that it is glorified here.



*snort*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 12:18 PM (yQpMk)

134 Here's the video I watched:

http://americandigest.org/aftermath/

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2020 12:19 PM (YynYJ)

135 There just seems to be a blind spot for some TYPES of different. Particularly, anything that "subverts expectations."
-----------------------

I would guess it has to do with them being part of a profession/industry largely populated by deviants?

If you review a film that artfully normalizes/forgives one of your kinks, all the better.

It is odd how so many Lefties have chosen to defend "Cuties," though. Saw one who had the usual LGBTQ buzzwords in her twitter bio, and she likened hate for "Cuties" to suppression of queer kids coming out. Of course. It's not about an 11 year old gyrating for the camera, it's that our current LGBTQ activists and allies encourage and demand kids explore their sexual identity early, often, and for public consumption, whether it's "Desmond is Amazing," "I Am Jazz," or "Cuties."
Posted by: Lizzy at September 12, 2020 12:14 PM (bDqIh)


I'm talking about more generalized "subverting expectations." Or more broadly, critics are more likely to key in on ANY movie that surprises them.

It doesn't have to be "kink" per se. The one they did about Hollywood a couple years ago, and won a bunch of Oscars, La La Land... it would appear to be more naval gazing by the industry, but people sang! And flew!

So it's different enough to excite them.

Personally I think Parasite is way overrated, but it's a Korean movie, and people act quirky. So the critics ate it up.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:19 PM (hku12)

136
8 years of Clinton gave us 9/11
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:03 PM (zr5Kq)





To this day, thanks to pressure from the Clinton cabal and their commie cocksucker Donk allies, the only place you can get the TV series The Path To 9/11 is on bittorrent.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2020 12:19 PM (EGyGV)

137 Nobody remembers the names of any of the other rides on the night of April 18, 1775 (yes, I had to look it up). People only remember Paul Revere.

Why?

Because, that's why.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:00 PM (hku12)

Paul Revere had a better press agent.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 12:19 PM (SSJSf)

138 Penguins are cute. My granddaughters love penguins.
He can be a bad clown, but not a penguin. It is just not right.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 12, 2020 12:19 PM (sd8p8)

139 Why is right ear burning ? Who is talking about me ?? Same to you !

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:20 PM (zr5Kq)

140 Alright, link in name field back to football spikin'

Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 12, 2020 12:20 PM (+0ZMY)

141 Revere...Dawes.
Pppfffttt

So what's our names? Ehh??? Come on. Name even one of us!

Posted by: The Horses at September 12, 2020 12:20 PM (axyOa)

142 I'll glorify whatever I want.

Posted by: navybrat the irritable at September 12, 2020 12:20 PM (w7KSn)

143
Nancy Pelosi: Historic Peace Deals Achieved By Trump Are Just "Distractions" From Virus***
What an absolutely despicable creature she is. So close to the end, Nance, one would think some serious soul-searching would be warranted.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 12, 2020 12:20 PM (LGXGf)

144 I think penguin is differebt from clown

Posted by: vmom 2020 - 13 Hours Book Review at September 12, 2020 12:21 PM (nUhF0)

145 Types, deletes. I need a break.


Clown penguin is too much today. I'll be back later folks. Good day.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 12, 2020 12:21 PM (0OmEj)

146 The Horses

Sarah Jessica Parker
Jean Francois Cary
Nancy Pelosi
Rancid Tilapia.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:21 PM (md0Us)

147 125: A globalist is nothing more than someone with a valid passport. God forbid it have visas.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 12:22 PM (SSJSf)

148 Nancy Pelosi: Historic Peace Deals Achieved By Trump Are Just "Distractions" From Virus***

==


Pelosi is the devil, trying to distract from glorious of the Devine.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:22 PM (zr5Kq)

149 Well, it's looking like the FBI in Portland is comped. Despite evidence all over the place that many fires in Oregon are being set by Antifa - and it really is not that hard to find - they insist those reports are false.

The Special Agent in Charge is a deep state tool.

I hope the US Attorney is not, and deals with the SAIC accordingly.

Posted by: Oldstoke at September 12, 2020 12:22 PM (sb+Cg)

150 *glorious March of the Devine

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:22 PM (zr5Kq)

151 147
I think penguin is differebt from clown

Posted by: vmom 2020 - 13 Hours Book Review at September 12, 2020 12:21 PM (nUhF0)

BUT WHO IS PHONE??

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 12:22 PM (DJFLF)

152 So, yesterday there was a pretty large spread outage of Internet for those of us that use Google fiber as a provider.

Provider of what?

Posted by: Comment Provider at September 12, 2020 12:23 PM (SSJSf)

153 Dang.
I can't wait for April 19th's!!!
Posted by: Diogenes

***********

April 19, 1775 - a limerick

The Patriots anxiously bunkered
Behind tree trunks and bushes they hunkered
On that glorious day
The Brits ran away
They came. They saw. We Concord!

Posted by: Muldoon at September 12, 2020 12:23 PM (Fc5rx)

154 Show off.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:15 PM (hku12)

I recently say a show on the revolutionary war...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2020 12:16 PM (Zmnko)


Heh. It makes my heart hurt, when they do those "man on the street" interviews and ask questions like "who fought the Revolutionary War and when" and people come up with the dumbest answers like "I think it was when Mexico fought Seattle. In like the 1970s."

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:23 PM (hku12)

155
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword
His truth is marching on, His truth is marching

In the beauty of the lilies, Christ was born across the sea
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me
As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free
While God is marching on



These are pretty fantastic lyrics for invoking the Prince of Peace in your bloody war.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 12:23 PM (yQpMk)

156 Muldoon, we don't deserve you.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 12, 2020 12:24 PM (sd8p8)

157 Pre-911

Admiral Mayer to General Arnold, "If people would turn off CNN there would be no Osama bin Landen."

A real bright one that flag officer, makes Admiral Callahan look like a rocket scientist.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:24 PM (md0Us)

158
Nancy Pelosi: Historic Peace Deals Achieved By Trump Are Just "Distractions" From Virus



www.weaselzippers.us/?p=455700

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2020 12:00 PM (63Dwl)


Yes we should concentrate on the virus by getting our hair done and then turn the mob on the salon when you're caught there.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 12, 2020 12:24 PM (9Ettb)

159 "After everything we know and have been through the last 5 years withTrump, why does Teh Horde still take at face value the official narrative of 9/11?

That can be true for pretty much everything.

Moon landing, Vegas Shooting, Pearl Harbor, the sinking of the Lusitania, Comet Pizza, Vince Foster's death, ATF/FBI vs Branch Davidians, IRS vs Tea Party, SARS-CoVid-2, and a myriad of things that was in the headlines for only a day but never have a coherent official explanation.

We read "news" today for emotional reasons, to trigger passions, dopamine hits, bias confirmations, but certainly not for a better understanding of our world around us.

You want Truth? Read the Bible.

Posted by: 🐧 at September 12, 2020 12:25 PM (C+evo)

160
Pelosi is the devil, trying to distract from glorious of the Devine.
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:22 PM (zr5Kq)

Hell, IRAN can grant diplomatic recognition to Israel and she would STILL bitch. As would the media.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 12:26 PM (SSJSf)

161 Dang.
Muldoon is Nailing It this morning!!!
I can almost hear the musketry.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:26 PM (axyOa)

162 Posted by: Oldstoke at September 12, 2020 12:22 PM (sb+Cg)
The SAIC obviously wants to keep his job. It's the boogaloos that are the true domestic terrorists, right?

Surprised he hasn't claimed the hawaiian shirt garbed WS crowd started the wildfires.

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 12:26 PM (DJFLF)

163
*glorious March of the Devine
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:22 PM (zr5Kq)




Andy Devine wasn't all that. Especially compared to Slim Pickens.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2020 12:27 PM (EGyGV)

164 Re: that sidebar about normalizing kiddie sexualization. I clicked over to the twatterz link from it. First reply? "If children want to do drag, I say let them."

That's how effed up millions of people in this country are.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 12, 2020 12:27 PM (O+I8R)

165 That song is pure evil.

Its a disgrace that it is glorified here.

Posted by: [Pinguino] at September 12, 2020 12:16 PM (C+evo)


Ja. Do "John Brown's Body" or "Lincoln and Liberty" next

Posted by: Kindltot at September 12, 2020 12:28 PM (WyVLE)

166 Fuck off, Clown.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 12:28 PM (yQpMk)

167 Slim Pickens could ride an A-bomb all the way down....

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:28 PM (md0Us)

168 AP at 149

Nice!
Talipia? Is that code fore John Kerry?

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:29 PM (axyOa)

169 Holy crap did we just achieve a loop?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Makes for a tighter sausage at September 12, 2020 12:29 PM (xVQEQ)

170 peace sells, but who's buying ?

Posted by: mayate lips at September 12, 2020 12:29 PM (vzKmu)

171 Rashid Tlaib - Rancid Tilapia

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:29 PM (md0Us)

172 Those with icons as nics are running amok.

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 12, 2020 12:29 PM (AiZBA)

173 Lovely. "The Battle Hymn of the Republic"

Written by a violent, vengeful, psychopath 19th century blaspheming Unitarian SJW who wished genocide on all of the people of the South and said that this was God's Will.

That song is pure evil.
Its a disgrace that it is glorified here.
Posted by: at September 12, 2020 12:16 PM (C+evo)

Amazing that the war crimes, rape, and civilian murder of woman and children are celebrated and worshiped here. Funny that Southerns don't behave that way and respect our Northern Countrymen and women. I wonder why that is? I have always wondered why that difference exists? Tradition? Different cultures? Religions? What is it?
Posted by: at September 12, 2020 12:27 PM (YW1Wp)


Now you're just trolling.

Boringly.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:29 PM (hku12)

174 Evil clown and penguin.....schizophrenic troll?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 12, 2020 12:31 PM (sd8p8)

175 So are we going to be trolled all day by Penguin and Clownface, two of Batman's worst adversaries?

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at September 12, 2020 12:31 PM (xblh9)

176 April 19, 1775 - a limerick

The Patriots anxiously bunkered
Behind tree trunks and bushes they hunkered
On that glorious day
The Brits ran away
They came. They saw. We Concord!

Posted by: Muldoon at September 12, 2020 12:23 PM (Fc5rx)


Oh my.

I was thinking Oklahoma City... and Ruby Ridge(?).

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:31 PM (hku12)

177 Just dropped in to see what was up and find the thread is on acid - think I will get back to my tractor.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at September 12, 2020 12:32 PM (nFRLh)

178 Just perfect for Rick James, if Rick was still alive

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y5ywbvk4

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:32 PM (md0Us)

179 I honestly never even listened to the words of the Battle Hymn. The sound is just gorgeous though.

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 12:32 PM (DJFLF)

180 >>Now you're just trolling.

Now?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 12:32 PM (ZLI7S)

181 This is how they get around our ignoring them/him. Just keep replying to himself/themself.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 12, 2020 12:32 PM (sd8p8)

182 Posted by: Muldoon at September 12, 2020 12:23 PM (Fc5rx)


Oh my.

I was thinking Oklahoma City... and Ruby Ridge(?).
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:31 PM (hku12)



Oops! No, not Ruby Ridge, April 19 was Koresh and the Branch Davidians... either the day the compound went up in smoke, or when the ATF had their initial raid. I don't remember which (and I ain't lookin' it up).

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:33 PM (hku12)

183 omg, we have dueling emojii now?

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 12:33 PM (DJFLF)

184 Posted by: at September 12, 2020 12:16 PM (C+evo)

Posted by: at September 12, 2020 12:27 PM (YW1Wp)

You two deserve each other.

Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 12:33 PM (X/Pw5)

185 Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 12:32 PM (ZLI7S)

What do you think about that Durham investigator quitting?

Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2020 12:33 PM (Zmnko)

186 Its worse than dueling banjos...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:33 PM (md0Us)

187 Holy crap did we just achieve a loop?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Makes for a tighter sausage at September 12, 2020 12:29 PM (xVQEQ)

yeah...maybe even liar paradox

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:34 PM (zr5Kq)

188 I wonder why that is?

The left controls the narrative, and they have always sought slavery. Too many of us accept the premises of the left even as we disagree with their conclusions. Even to the point of calling good evil.

That's one of the reasons I'm coming around to the "live to make men free" version of the song. The original lyrics were written during a war, for soldiers and families of soldiers, to destroy an evil in pure form.

But evil always returns, and not always in such an obvious manner. It is always a fight to keep men free. We cannot allow enslaving ideologies to mask us again in barbarous chains. Reagan and Abraham Lincoln both warned us that we must dedicate not only our dying but our living to keeping America a land of the free.

There is great bravery in dying for freedom, but there's also bravery in living for freedom when all around you are living to submit to the Stephen Douglases of the world. That, also, is a bravery worth singing of.

Something I've been thinking of recently.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 12, 2020 12:34 PM (2lndx)

189 I'm usually not a cynic, but I believe WE shot down Flight 93.
I understand why and i don't blame them. I also understand why they don't tell us.

We can't handle the truth.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 12, 2020 12:34 PM (HrMC1)

190 omg, we have dueling emojii now?


Now I'm picturing the commenter as Banjo Boy, though in fairness I was doing that anyway.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 12:34 PM (yQpMk)

191 Our wedding anniversary is Sept. 10 (1994) but ever since 9/11 we feel awkward about celebrating it.

Meanwhile, my brother and his wife got married on Sept. 8, 2001. They flew out of O'Hare on the 10th and were in Seattle on the morning of the 11th... they were getting ready to cross the border to Vancouver BC and take the train across Canada for their honeymoon. They did make it across and completed their train trip, but only after considerable delay at the border. Everyone they met on their trip through the Great White North, by the way, was extremely nice to them.

Posted by: Secret Square at September 12, 2020 12:34 PM (9WuX0)

192 Rashid Tlaib - Rancid Tilapia
Posted by: Anna Puma


Ahhh
Got it.
Haven't found the coffee yet.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:35 PM (axyOa)

193 omg, we have dueling emojii now?
Posted by: kallisto

The loser squeals like a pig ?

Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 12:35 PM (arJlL)

194 >>What do you think about that Durham investigator quitting?

Sounds to me like things are wrapping up.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 12:35 PM (ZLI7S)

195 Ahhh
Got it.
Haven't found the coffee yet.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:35 PM (axyOa)

Coffee ? Did you look in the coffee carafe ?

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:36 PM (zr5Kq)

196 reminds me of Dueling Ozzies - (yes it's Jimmy Fallon, but before he became a hateful dweeb)
https://tinyurl.com/y3e9m6d5

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 12:36 PM (DJFLF)

197 Sounds to me like things are wrapping up.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 12:35 PM (ZLI7S)

That's what I was thinking

Posted by: It's me donna at September 12, 2020 12:36 PM (Zmnko)

198 Getting more difficult here to distinguish between the content from emoji people and many others.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2020 12:36 PM (OTzUX)

199 ur wedding anniversary is Sept. 10 (1994) but ever since 9/11 we feel awkward about celebrating it.

Meanwhile, my brother and his wife got married on Sept. 8, 2001. They flew out of O'Hare on the 10th and were in Seattle on the morning of the 11th... they were getting ready to cross the border to Vancouver BC and take the train across Canada for their honeymoon. They did make it across and completed their train trip, but only after considerable delay at the border. Everyone they met on their trip through the Great White North, by the way, was extremely nice to them.
Posted by: Secret Square at September 12, 2020 12:34 PM (9WuX0)


We were originally scheduled to marry on Sept. 11 but we had to bump it to Sept. 18. I am glad we did.

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 12, 2020 12:36 PM (AiZBA)

200 I guess that's the tack. Under-represented PoCs in Hollywood is the new black.



So anything goes. As long as it expresses the "culture and
politics" of the under-represented, it's going to be criticism-proof.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 11:50 AM (hku12)

If that is POC culture, then POC should be deeply ashamed and should be shunned.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at September 12, 2020 12:37 PM (nAiE/)

201 We can't handle the truth.

That, again, is accepting the left's premises. It infuriates them that some Americans were still capable of fighting back when faced with the truth of what was happening.

That the Americans of Flight 93 might still exist is the left's greatest fear.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 12, 2020 12:37 PM (2lndx)

202 Its a disgrace that it is glorified here.


Posted by: stupid penguin emoji at September 12, 2020 12:16 PM (C+evo)

hotair.com doesn't glorify "Battle Hymn Of The Republic."

just sayin'....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 12:38 PM (xT2tT)

203 Andy Devine wasn't all that. Especially compared to Slim Pickens.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

They each had their place; Devine was a great Linc Appleyard.

Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 12:38 PM (arJlL)

204 174 peace sells, but who's buying ?
Posted by: mayate lips at September 12, 2020 12:29 PM (vzKmu)

So far...so good...SO WHAT!!!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 12:38 PM (SSJSf)

205 The military planes tasked with taking down Flight 93. You can read the interviews by the pilots. They were unarmed and planned to ram the plane. It went down before that. We didn't shoot it down.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2020 12:38 PM (YynYJ)

206 Coffee ? Did you look in the coffee carafe ?
Posted by: runner


Carafe? That's for rich people
Hell, I'm lucky if I can find a used paper cup.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:38 PM (axyOa)

207
I'm usually not a cynic, but I believe WE shot down Flight 93.

I understand why and i don't blame them. I also understand why they don't tell us.



We can't handle the truth.


Posted by: JoeF. at September 12, 2020 12:34 PM


----

No way that sort of information could be hidden. Way too many people in that food chain to silence or disappear to keep them form talking.

From the pilot who pulled the trigger, to the Airman who did the post flight service of the plane and everyone in between would know missiles had been pickled off.


Air Controllers close by could see the shot too.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 12, 2020 12:38 PM (JUOKG)

208 Dad and his golf buddy had been traveling for a month golfing in Ireland, Scotland, Spain, Caribbean. They had gone to Cuba via the Bahamas. They had another week planned, but dad said he needed to get home and check on things. He landed at the local airport at 6:30 pm on 9/10/01.

Posted by: Infidel at September 12, 2020 12:39 PM (R4aZ2)

209 The US did not shoot down United Flt 93.

Three F-16 ADFs of the 119th launched from Langley. Two were the alert birds fully armed. Third was the spare and only armed with 20mm for the M-61.

When all three planes finally landed back at Langley, one of the crew chiefs who arrived after the planes had launched saw that Bogey's plane was clean of missiles and assumed there had been a shoot down.

From that false assumption that the crew chief passed on to others arose the urban legend that we had shot down an airliner.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:39 PM (md0Us)

210
All Good Heroes Deserve a Nickname - a limerick

While Paul Revere gets the applause
Along with the "oohs" and the "Aahs"
Another earned acclaim
Now say it! Say his name!
'Twas William "The Wizard" O'Dawes

Posted by: Muldoon at September 12, 2020 12:39 PM (Fc5rx)

211 Amazing that the war crimes, rape, and civilian murder of woman and children are celebrated and worshiped here.

I think people are caught up in the tune because folks like Elvis and performers for Hee Haw and Symphony/Choirs made it special.

Read the lyrics. Read about the person behind those words.

Aside from the gleeful genocide in the first three stanzas, the last stanza is pure bad doctrine. Blasphemous actually.

Basically Julie Ward Howe tried to caricature Jesus Christ as the ultimate Antifa and Burning, Looting and Murder as the Gospel.

Posted by: 🐧 at September 12, 2020 12:39 PM (C+evo)

212 Fuck off, Clown.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 12:28 PM (yQpMk)


Obligatory... the greatest joke ever:

https://tinyurl.com/ltzgjkd

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:39 PM (hku12)

213 Okay, people. I have to actually get something done today.
(Please don't feed the trolls)

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 12, 2020 12:39 PM (sd8p8)

214 I am watching the WVa game and i got an 8x match offer from RNC!

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 12, 2020 12:40 PM (4vNgL)

215 Think I'll go limp along the beach. This thread is approaching train wreck status.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 12:40 PM (ZLI7S)

216 why is winred fixiated on 42$?

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (4vNgL)

217 hotair.com doesn't glorify "Battle Hymn Of The Republic."

So the kneejerk reaction should be: "I should have the Battle Hymn tattooed on my ass and I can fart out the melody".

Posted by: 🐧 at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (C+evo)

218 9/11 to young people (20 somethings) now is like Vietnam was to 20 somethings on 9/11. That detached. How many even understand ? Ambassador Grenell had to school the WH press corps about Kosovo and the war there (started, instigated by Clinton, without UN blessing...unlike war in Iraq and Afganistan). What it means to have peace between Serbia and Kosovo.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (zr5Kq)

219 Hell, I'm lucky if I can find a used paper cup.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:38 PM (axyOa)

I sure hope you don't chew tobacco.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (xT2tT)

220 Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword
His truth is marching on, His truth is marching

In the beauty of the lilies, Christ was born across the sea
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me
As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free
While God is marching on


These are pretty fantastic lyrics for invoking the Prince of Peace in your bloody war.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 12:23 PM (yQpMk)

1st verse? Old Testament.

2nd Verse? New Testament.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (NgKpN)

221 We were originally scheduled to marry on Sept. 11 but we had to bump it to Sept. 18. I am glad we did.

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 12, 2020 12:36 PM (AiZBA)

I'm glad you did as well...now you can celebrate your anniversary on...my birfday!

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (DJFLF)

222 I'm glad you did as well...now you can celebrate your anniversary on...my birfday!
Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (DJFLF)


*fist bump*

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 12, 2020 12:42 PM (AiZBA)

223 So the kneejerk reaction should be: "I should have the Battle Hymn tattooed on my ass and I can fart out the melody".


Posted by: stupid penguin emoji at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (C+evo)

You seem...stupid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 12:42 PM (xT2tT)

224 220
Think I'll go limp along the beach. This thread is approaching train wreck status.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 12:40 PM (ZLI7S)

C'mon, man...Dueling Ozzies wasn't *that* bad

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 12:43 PM (DJFLF)

225 Now you're just trolling.
-------------
Now?
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 12:32 PM (ZLI7S)


It's possible I'm not paying that much attention.

I do skim over a LOT of comments here.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:43 PM (hku12)

226 223 9/11 to young people (20 somethings) now is like Vietnam was to 20 somethings on 9/11. That detached. How many even understand ? Ambassador Grenell had to school the WH press corps about Kosovo and the war there (started, instigated by Clinton, without UN blessing...unlike war in Iraq and Afganistan). What it means to have peace between Serbia and Kosovo.
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (zr5Kq)

Saw in Denver where last year the High School kids put on a Kabuki protest, over the Columbine shootings.

They were not even BORN then.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2020 12:43 PM (NgKpN)

227 (Please don't feed the trolls)


*puts flammenwerfer away

sure, no problem

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:43 PM (zr5Kq)

228 I sure hope you don't chew tobacco.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


Ahhh dang. And all this time I thought that was tea.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:44 PM (axyOa)

229 1st verse? Old Testament.

2nd Verse? New Testament.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (NgKpN)


It is a common mistake to site the "Old" Testament as void of forgiveness and only full of judgement and punishment.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:45 PM (zr5Kq)

230 2020: "That's pee, isn't it?"
2021: I wonder if my water filter will make that clean enough to drink???

Posted by: PabloD, make commies fly again! at September 12, 2020 12:46 PM (KFnWd)

231 That fire picture got better a few minutes later when it exploded that entire hillside.

I evacuated after the hillside literally exploded in a huge fireball the length of that hill.
It sucked all it's smoke to the center and pushed a huge column of smoke skyward.

This was about 1 am.

People live over there in that forest.
They've found nine dead.
Fire rescued over a hundred.

At the bottom of that picture is a finger of Lake Oroville. Highway 162 is at the bottom of the hill from right to left...goes to Quincy from Oroville.

I didn't want to leave when I did but GF was hysterical.

Posted by: torabora at September 12, 2020 12:46 PM (Kjzu8)

232 Posted by: stupid penguin emoji at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (C+evo)

You seem...stupid.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 12:42 PM (xT2tT)

I think we can dispense w/any speculation.

Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 12:46 PM (X/Pw5)

233 Just discovered this... on 9/10/01 NYC was hit with severe thunderstorms and heavy rain. A young filmmaker/artist from Colombia spent several hours that afternoon and evening filming the weather from a studio in the North Tower.... her tape contains(as far as anyone knows) the LAST known photographic images of the Towers.

https://tinyurl.com/yy5raehu

Posted by: Secret Square at September 12, 2020 12:46 PM (9WuX0)

234 Dixie > Battle Hymn of the Republic

O, I wish I was in Dixie!
Hooray! Hooray!
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand
To live and die in Dixie
Away, away
Away down south in Dixie!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 12, 2020 12:46 PM (Z+IKu)

235 CBS will show womens soccer while cfb is available elsewhere. How do they void that contract?

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 12, 2020 12:46 PM (4vNgL)

236 Fucking trolls mess up the best place on the net.


Fuck off trolls.
Sincerely.

Posted by: USNtakim at September 12, 2020 12:47 PM (0OmEj)

237 Re: the fires out west. I read Joe Mannix's (not a cop!) passionate comments yesterday about living in the mountains and the dread of wildfire. I grew up in CO, too, albeit the suburbs of Denver. When I go out to visit, I am stunned at what has happened to the spruce forests of the front range. Due to another nasty Chynah export, the pine betel, easily half the stock of pine forest is dead, standing trees*. Combined this with the US Forest Service long standing policy of suppression, it seems like Colorado could be 10X worse than the fires of CA. There are so many people who live in the mountains now, thanks to CA migration and home cost disparity, the life and property loss would be insane.
My wife and I talked to one logger out there, and he told us he had a 10 year contract to cut down the dead trees, and they wouldn't put a dent in the problem.
*Dead standing trees cause the crown fires, that move at 30-40 mph. You can't out run them.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 12, 2020 12:47 PM (7Fj9P)

238 cite no site that is ...

(looks at coffee cup..)

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:48 PM (zr5Kq)

239 "I should have the Battle Hymn tattooed on my ass..." How about a picture of your mother tattooed on your dick

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at September 12, 2020 12:48 PM (xblh9)

240 2020: "That's pee, isn't it?"
2021: I wonder if my water filter will make that clean enough to drink???
Posted by: PabloD, make commies fly again! at September 12, 2020 12:46 PM (KFnWd)


2022: What I wouldn't give for a nice cup of pee. Why, all I've had to drink for the past year has been the blood and cerebral-spinal fluid from the skulls of our dead comrades.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:48 PM (hku12)

241 234 1st verse? Old Testament.

2nd Verse? New Testament.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (NgKpN)


It is a common mistake to site the "Old" Testament as void of forgiveness and only full of judgement and punishment.
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:45 PM (zr5Kq)

Having studied both, so its your contention that their is no battle, nor wrath of God, in the Old Testament?

Think I'll leave this thread, the above posters were correct, it seems to be bringing out a lot of people looking for fights today.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2020 12:48 PM (NgKpN)

242 CBS will show womens soccer while cfb is available elsewhere. How do they void that contract?

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 12, 2020 12:46 PM (4vNgL)

CBS airs SEC games....no SEC, yet.

Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 12:49 PM (X/Pw5)

243 CBD
No. Cigars from time to time. Chew is just vile.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:49 PM (axyOa)

244 The idea that Bush knew is retarded.
That being said Im sure that a lot of info has been hidden from the public if it makes important people look incompetent.

Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 12:49 PM (FlcKk)

245 Yeah. Signal to noise ratio is way off kilter today. Later folks.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 12, 2020 12:49 PM (Fc5rx)

246 I don't know if fire jumped the canyon to my house but there's ash everywhere.

I got back after three days last night. Just woke up. I'm getting some breakfast and going for a walk.

I'll bet you there were spot fires over here that got put out. There's char everywhere.

Posted by: torabora at September 12, 2020 12:50 PM (Kjzu8)

247 Posted by: stupid clown emoji at September 12, 2020 12:48 PM (YW1Wp)

That's because you are stupid. And banned.

Good bye.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 12:50 PM (xT2tT)

248
9/11 to young people (20 somethings) now is like Vietnam was to 20
somethings on 9/11. That detached. How many even understand ?
Ambassador Grenell had to school the WH press corps about Kosovo and the
war there (started, instigated by Clinton, without UN blessing...unlike
war in Iraq and Afganistan). What it means to have peace between
Serbia and Kosovo.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (zr5Kq)


It could be a generational thing. Pearl Harbor happened many years before I was born but from what they taught in school, what I read, saw in movies and what my parents told me about it I could understand how big of an event it and how we had to always remember what happened on that day. Now what's being taught or told to people about 9/11 who were born after 9/11?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 12, 2020 12:50 PM (Jicun)

249 Whew, that's a relief. Something about the ethanol "industry" being able to use different gas pumps. On the Trumpentwatters.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2020 12:50 PM (OTzUX)

250 I guess because his browser supports those emojis. And because it's more anonymous and more irritating and childish.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 12:07 PM (xT2tT)

Could Pixy be persuaded to block emojis in the "name" field?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2020 12:50 PM (iu7L3)

251
Browsing the history section at B&N while Her Majesty gets her hair done. Looks from the titles displayed like women singlehandedly won World War II. And the US was built entirely by slave labor.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 12, 2020 12:50 PM (H1Uzp)

252 If they could fake the moon landings and convince America that Ellen Degeneres is likable, I guess they can fake anything. *adjusts tinfoil cap*

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 12, 2020 12:51 PM (H5knJ)

253 Having studied both, so its your contention that their is no battle, nor wrath of God, in the Old Testament?

Think I'll leave this thread, the above posters were correct, it seems to be bringing out a lot of people looking for fights today.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2020 12:48 PM (NgKpN)


I said void of forgiveness. Like it is some kind of story of wrath and punishment only. It has both, has mercy, forgiveness reward even.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:51 PM (zr5Kq)

254 Cigars from time to time. Chew is just vile.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:49 PM (axyOa)

Agreed. One day we shall meet and I will tell you about a boss who insisted on sitting with me while I worked (I could see the entire operation on my systems).


He chewed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (xT2tT)

255 Otis ANG launched their alert F-15s, these went to NYC just in time to see the second jetliner impact. Duff and Nasty.

Second pair of F-15s from Otis launched Winchester, unarmed. It was one of these pilots "Rosey" McGrady who contemplated ramming as they were vectored on a bogey which turned out to be a KC-10 dragging four A-10s across the Atlantic and were unaware of what had happened.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (md0Us)

256 " A globalist is nothing more than someone with a valid passport. God forbid it have visas" Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

I've seen that meme here before ... not sure what the point is. No, globalists meet and plot against sovereign nations ... oligarch types like Soros, or the WHO, or various organizations that operate outside our elected official structure. (shadow government, DeepState, whatever)

Posted by: illiniwek at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (Cus5s)

257 It is a common mistake to site the "Old" Testament as void of forgiveness and only full of judgement and punishment.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:45 PM (zr5Kq)

Having studied both, so its your contention that their is no battle, nor wrath of God, in the Old Testament?


Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2020 12:48 PM (NgKpN)

Read it again...slowly.

Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (X/Pw5)

258 And we all know how well large conspiracies work because all the parties are perfectly able to keep their mouths shut. Plane plowed into the ground at a high speed. The passengers were heard on their cell phones attacking the cabin. Sometimes things really are what they seem to be.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (YynYJ)

259 244

I could probably find a link between you and OBL if I looked hard enough. Seriously there are weird coincidences and relationships between people that can prove just about anything you want. The Dems impeached Trump over a fucking phone call remember? And all they were doing was asking questions.

Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (FlcKk)

260 252 If they could fake the moon landings and convince America that Ellen Degeneres is likable, I guess they can fake anything. *adjusts tinfoil cap*
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 12, 2020 12:51 PM (H5knJ)

child's play

Posted by: Mooch fan at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (O+AcM)

261
1st verse? Old Testament.

2nd Verse? New Testament.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 12, 2020 12:41 PM (NgKpN)


It is a common mistake to site the "Old" Testament as void of forgiveness and only full of judgement and punishment.
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:45 PM (zr5Kq)






One of the old Christian heresies that Umberto Eco put into Foucault's Pendulum (along with every other bit of cultural bric-a-brac he could find) was the idea that the Old Testament was actually Lucifer's version of the early history of man, and that the New Testament was God's.

That idea always struck me as mildly interesting, although wrong. Can't remember the specific name of the heresy though.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (EGyGV)

262 It could be a generational thing. Pearl Harbor happened many years before I was born but from what they taught in school, what I read, saw in movies and what my parents told me about it I could understand how big of an event it and how we had to always remember what happened on that day. Now what's being taught or told to people about 9/11 who were born after 9/11?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 12, 2020 12:50 PM (Jicun)

That is true.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:53 PM (zr5Kq)

263 Sharon (willow's) apprentice,

You canget an emoji by entering the escape sequence, the the emoji code.

Remove spaces
Escape key sequence: & # x
Emoji for my AoS card: 1 F 0 A 1

🂡

Clown face is: 1 F 9 2 1 🤡

Penguine dude is: 1 F 4 2 7 🐧

Posted by: BifBewalski 🂡 Moron at September 12, 2020 12:54 PM (VcFUs)

264 Resolved:. That emojis are from this day forward banned from use as nicks on the HQ.

All in favor say "Aye".

Posted by: creeper at September 12, 2020 12:54 PM (XxJt1)

265 Oh no, we gonna break the blog again...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:55 PM (md0Us)

266
Agreed. One day we shall meet and I will tell you about a boss who insisted on sitting with me while I worked (I could see the entire operation on my systems).


He chewed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (xT2tT)


Deal.
And I'll tell you about one of my sergeants.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:55 PM (axyOa)

267 Posted by: BifBewalski Moron at September 12, 2020 12:54 PM (VcFUs)

awesome ! which one would be dragon ?

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:56 PM (zr5Kq)

268 my uncle was an early aficionado of the big league chew

Posted by: REDACTED at September 12, 2020 12:56 PM (O+AcM)

269 All in favor say "Aye".
Posted by: creeper at September 12, 2020 12:54 PM (XxJt1)

No. I am about to add dragon to my fabulous nic.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:56 PM (zr5Kq)

270 In the beauty of the lilies, Christ was born across the sea

I think the original narrative had Him born in a manger.

With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me

I have no idea what that is, probably trigger language since "glory" and "transfigures" is incorrectly used in this context. According to Paul's writings in 2 Cor 3, its transfiguration of the believer into the image of Christ (not a mass murderer) that reveals the Glory. Now only does Howe have a horse-cart ordering problem, she can't even recognize the cart.

As He died to make men holy

That is heretical. He died to pay the wages of Sin.

let us live to make men free While God is marching on

Some might argue a context shift makes this "Ok", but in the midst of pseudo theological claptrap its only Christ who can make men free.

Yeah, but if you love the blasphemous/genocide glorifying song - I must be the stupid one.

Posted by: 🐧 at September 12, 2020 12:57 PM (C+evo)

271 Andy Devine wasn't all that. Especially compared to Slim Pickens.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2020 12:27 PM (EGyGV)

Don't go to Kingman, AZ, and be heard saying that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2020 12:57 PM (iu7L3)

272 OK, trying this out
#1F0A1

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 12, 2020 12:58 PM (D3cJf)

273 1f0a1

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 12, 2020 12:58 PM (D3cJf)

274 There are few benefits to living in an active fire zone, but I have found two: first, all the smoke has dropped the temperature by about 25 - 30 degrees, so the air conditioning isn't running and probably sucking in a bunch of ash into the home air; two, I have at least temporarily lost any craving for a cigar. No need to smoke when your mouth tastes like an ashtray just from walking from the car to the house.

Posted by: PabloD, make commies fly again! at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (KFnWd)

275 To my kids born after 9.11 the day is another day that has some history. But they will never understand what it means. You had to have been of age on that day to get it. Dec 7 is a day I know about but Other than knowing what happened, I have no emotional connection to it. It is another day on the calendar for me.

Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (FlcKk)

276 Agreed. One day we shall meet and I will tell you about a boss who
insisted on sitting with me while I worked (I could see the entire
operation on my systems).





He chewed.



Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (xT2tT)




I had a manger who used to chew tobacco in the office and spit it in a styrofoam cup. The guy was complete slob. We used to say he was like the Pig Pen character in Peanuts.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (Jicun)

277 Yeah, but if you love the blasphemous/genocide glorifying song - I must be the stupid one.


What he said.

Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (X/Pw5)

278 Yeah time to go do other things before the kids trying to get an emoji break the blog.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (md0Us)

279 Obligatory... the greatest joke ever:

https://tinyurl.com/ltzgjkd
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 12:39 PM (hku12)


I read that but in my mind Buddy Hackett is telling it.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (axyOa)

280 I can't imagine what fellow hordians from CA, WA and CO are experiencing re: the wildfires. It's mindnumbingly frightening.

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (DJFLF)

281 I've never smoked a cig

have taken a couple of mj tokes but I'm a lush so not a fan

I tasted a leaf of Redman once

never again

Posted by: REDACTED at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (O+AcM)

282 runner, don't you dare!

Posted by: creeper at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (XxJt1)

283 Resolved:. That emojis are from this day forward banned from use as nicks on the HQ.

All in favor say "Aye".
Posted by: creeper at September 12, 2020 12:54 PM (XxJt1)


Aye.

Yeah baby, democracy in action.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (xblh9)

284 256 " A globalist is nothing more than someone with a valid passport. God forbid it have visas" Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

I've seen that meme here before ... not sure what the point is. No, globalists meet and plot against sovereign nations ... oligarch types like Soros, or the WHO, or various organizations that operate outside our elected official structure. (shadow government, DeepState, whatever)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (Cus5s)

...and I'll keep sticking to it.

I hate Soros as much as anyone else here but he's not to blame for everything, and his going away does not void his evil.

I have a deep and abiding mistrust of my school board, so you can expect that mistrust to amplify as we go up the ladder. As for the UN, they have their uses so I don't mind keeping them around, but I'm all about running them out of the country and sending them packing to Geneva or Vienna, and turning the UN HQ in New York into a parking garage for visitors brave enough to want to visit.

(I DO appreciate someone finally attempting to explain WTF a "globalist" is. I'm sticking to my explanation. While I have no room for the Soroses of the world, I'm good with trade with nations not the PRC, and I'm good with some other things as well. For instance, the EU sucks, and should be reducted to what the Common Market was, say, pre-1978. But an isolationist looking everywhere for demons I am not. There are too many bad actors within and without the country for me to do that.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (SSJSf)

285
awesome ! which one would be dragon ?
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 12:56 PM (zr5Kq)


Dragon: 1 F 4 0 9 🐉

Posted by: BifBewalski 🂡 Moron at September 12, 2020 01:00 PM (VcFUs)

286 One of the old Christian heresies that Umberto Eco put into Foucault's Pendulum (along with every other bit of cultural bric-a-brac he could find) was the idea that the Old Testament was actually Lucifer's version of the early history of man, and that the New Testament was God's.

That idea always struck me as mildly interesting, although wrong. Can't remember the specific name of the heresy though.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (EGyGV)

I tried reading that mess (I sort of liked The Name of the Rose) and could not make heads or tails out of it.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:00 PM (zr5Kq)

287 test !

Posted by: runner 1F409 at September 12, 2020 01:00 PM (zr5Kq)

288
And I'll tell you about one of my sergeants.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:55 PM (axyOa)







When we went into the field, it was common for the chew-maniacs to have a whole roll of Copenhagen in the center of their sleeping pad as it was packed on their ruck.

I shouldn't talk though. Once I became a vehicle driver, I had several gallon ziplocs full of sunflower seeds stashed all over the place. The floor of the driver's compartment was usually COMPLETELY covered in seed hulls as I spit them out.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2020 01:00 PM (EGyGV)

289 fail

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:00 PM (zr5Kq)

290 I read that but in my mind Buddy Hackett is telling it.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (axyOa)

Is it "The Aristocrats"?

Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 01:01 PM (X/Pw5)

291 Just discovered this... on 9/10/01 NYC was hit with severe thunderstorms and heavy rain. A young filmmaker/artist from Colombia spent several hours that afternoon and evening filming the weather from a studio in the North Tower.... her tape contains(as far as anyone knows) the LAST known photographic images of the Towers.

https://tinyurl.com/yy5raehu
Posted by: Secret Square at September 12, 2020 12:46 PM (9WuX0)


Interesting. I assume you mean last images FROM the towers? Because yeah, there were plenty more OF the towers on 9/11.

It's sad to watch, not a terribly well done film in its own right, but as an historical artifact... yeah.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:01 PM (hku12)

292 Andy Devine wasn't all that. Especially compared to Slim Pickens.


He's no Pat Buttram.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2020 01:01 PM (oVJmc)

293 I tried reading that mess (I sort of liked The Name of the Rose) and could not make heads or tails out of it.

I haven't read either of those yet, but I absolutely loved Baudolino and The Mysterious Flame of Queen Loana. The latter probably requires that you used to read a lot of old science fiction and comic books to enjoy, but the former only requires a sense of history.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 12, 2020 01:02 PM (2lndx)

294 211
Coffee ? Did you look in the coffee carafe ?

Posted by: runner





Carafe? That's for rich people

Hell, I'm lucky if I can find a used paper cup.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:38 PM (axyOa)


Cup? We had to just eat the grind and drink a little water from the stream.

Posted by: Javems at September 12, 2020 01:02 PM (ofIwF)

295 I need to go watch a boat parade. Later, all.


*kicks penguins, clowns and dragons out of the way*

Posted by: creeper at September 12, 2020 01:02 PM (XxJt1)

296 275 To my kids born after 9.11 the day is another day that has some history. But they will never understand what it means. You had to have been of age on that day to get it. Dec 7 is a day I know about but Other than knowing what happened, I have no emotional connection to it. It is another day on the calendar for me.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (FlcKk)

It was only a matter of time before that happened.

Here's another one. November 22, 1963. When it was announced to people that Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis died, everyone remembers where they were. My parents can tell you where they were when they heard Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis died. But to me it was just another day in history.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 01:02 PM (SSJSf)

297 Carafe? That's for rich people

Hell, I'm lucky if I can find a used paper cup.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 12:38 PM (axyOa)


Cup? We had to just eat the grind and drink a little water from the stream.
Posted by: Javems at September 12, 2020 01:02 PM (ofIwF)

Do you perhaps have a decanter?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 01:03 PM (SSJSf)

298 ?

Posted by: runner U+1F409 at September 12, 2020 01:03 PM (zr5Kq)

299 I had a buddy who chewed. Put a Styrofoam cup on the dash filled with spit, no lid, and proceeded to pop the clutch. I had to throw up, then throw all my clothes away.

I let him clean up his car...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2020 01:03 PM (3H9h1)

300
287 test !
Posted by: runner 🐉 at September 12, 2020 01:00 PM (zr5Kq)

Put the: '& # x' in front of the '1 F 4 0 9'

Remove spaces.

Posted by: BifBewalski 🂡 Moron at September 12, 2020 01:03 PM (VcFUs)

301 Having studied both, so its your contention that their is no battle, nor wrath of God, in the Old Testament?

Without Sin, Judgement, Hate and Wrath its hard to justify Justice, Sacrifice, Redemption and Love.

In the midst of the Curse in the earliest chapters of Genesis, there was a promise of salvation and redemption.

And Revelation to John doesn't look like a Garden party. Also selections from the Gospels and letters by Peter and Paul talk about wiping out/renewing the entire Universe whereas the OT, outside of the Great Deluge, was localized demonstrations of Wrath.

Posted by: 🐧 at September 12, 2020 01:04 PM (C+evo)

302 ??

Posted by: runner \1F409 at September 12, 2020 01:04 PM (zr5Kq)

303 almost

Posted by: runner 🐉 at September 12, 2020 01:04 PM (zr5Kq)

304 It's sad to watch, not a terribly well done film in its own right, but as an historical artifact... yeah.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:01 PM (hku12)

IIRC the only (known, used) footage of AA 11 hitting the North Tower was from a French video crew that happened to be working on a documentary that morning, and happened to have the camera pointed in the right direction.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 01:05 PM (SSJSf)

305 Here's another one. November 22, 1963. When it was announced to people that Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis died, everyone remembers where they were. My parents can tell you where they were when they heard Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis died. But to me it was just another day in history.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 01:02 PM (SSJSf)

I remember where I was that day.....

Posted by: Zombie Lee Harvey Oswald at September 12, 2020 01:05 PM (Z+IKu)

306 I can't imagine what fellow hordians from CA, WA and CO are experiencing re: the wildfires. It's mindnumbingly frightening.
Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (DJFLF)


This part of CO today is the bluest blue. We had rain on Tuesday - Thursday, and the clouds started clearing yesterday. Our fires have been mostly extinguished for a couple weeks now, and last weekend smoke covered much the state, coming from the West Coast.

So as I mentioned earlier, I'm grateful for blue skies.

While others are dealing with it now, we in Colorado are free of it... for now.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:06 PM (hku12)

307 I am trying..


Posted by: runner 🐉 at September 12, 2020 01:07 PM (zr5Kq)

308 All in favor say "Aye".
Posted by: creeper at September 12, 2020 12:54 PM (XxJt1)

Aye!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2020 01:07 PM (YpIxn)

309 My parents can tell you where they were when they heard Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis died. But to me it was just another day in history.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 01:02 PM (SSJSf) /i]


ISWYDT

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:07 PM (yQpMk)

310 dammit.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:07 PM (yQpMk)

311 Elvis died on 9/11 on the moon.
FACT

Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 01:07 PM (FlcKk)

312 IIRC the only (known, used) footage of AA 11 hitting the North Tower was from a French video crew that happened to be working on a documentary that morning, and happened to have the camera pointed in the right direction.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 01:05 PM (SSJSf)

I think that's right. The French guys were brothers making a doc. about a probationary firefighter...great film, btw.

Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 01:08 PM (X/Pw5)

313 I remember where I was that day.....
Posted by: Zombie Lee Harvey Oswald at September 12, 2020 01:05 PM (Z+IKu)

He was in that book suppository building!

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 01:08 PM (SSJSf)

314 My parents can tell you where they were when they heard Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis died. But to me it was just another day in history.


Aw. They never got to see Doctor Who.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 12, 2020 01:08 PM (oVJmc)

315 won't work second time , the field becomes unreadable. I think I am going to go and post on an old thread, to test variations out.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (zr5Kq)

316 I can't imagine what fellow hordians from CA, WA and CO are experiencing re: the wildfires. It's mindnumbingly frightening.
Posted by: kallisto


My update:
Woke up to a eerie orange sky. Thick, mixed with a bit of fog and clingy. For once I don't mind wearing a mask...but indoors?
Fine ash on everything. My truck is gray. The local big fire is 30% contained and last night was the first when we didn't have an idiot arsonist try to start one.
Mrs D asked what did we want for dinner. I said Bar BQ. That earned me an odd look. She's had enough of smoke I guess.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (axyOa)

317 To my kids born after 9.11 the day is another day that has some history. But they will never understand what it means. You had to have been of age on that day to get it. Dec 7 is a day I know about but Other than knowing what happened, I have no emotional connection to it. It is another day on the calendar for me.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (FlcKk)

I wasn't born yet, but I grew up at a time when this date --and the war following it--had a deep connection to many people around me.
Also, because I went to school when history was (kinda, sorta) still taught, I understood it's significance.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (HrMC1)

318 Like the sign in NH says-Fuck Nancy Pelosi!

The hateful sagging ol' bitch.

Posted by: Case at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (rH0cI)

319 It's sad to watch, not a terribly well done film in its own right, but as an historical artifact... yeah.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:01 PM (hku12)

IIRC the only (known, used) footage of AA 11 hitting the North Tower was from a French video crew that happened to be working on a documentary that morning, and happened to have the camera pointed in the right direction.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 01:05 PM (SSJSf)


I believe you are right. A purely coincidental occurrence.

I'm trying to remember though, there may have been some amateur video and/or photos taken of the plane either coming in, or immediately after impact.

I haven't watched any film of the explosions and aftermath in several years now. I don't really want to.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (hku12)

320 won't work second time , the field becomes unreadable. I think I am going to go and post on an old thread, to test variations out.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (zr5Kq)



It's safest if it's one that has rolled off the mainpage.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (yQpMk)

321 It's safest if it's one that has rolled off the mainpage.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (yQpMk)

that is what people tell me...

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:10 PM (zr5Kq)

322 320 won't work second time , the field becomes unreadable. I think I am going to go and post on an old thread, to test variations out.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (zr5Kq)


It's safest if it's one that has rolled off the mainpage.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (yQpMk)


You have to re-set it in your nic, every time.

Posted by: BifBewalski 🂡 Moron at September 12, 2020 01:11 PM (VcFUs)

323 fires started by antifa and their BLM buddies; that is terrorism

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:11 PM (zr5Kq)

324 Elvis died on 9/11 on the moon.
FACT
Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 01:07 PM (FlcKk)

No,no,no.....Elvis is alive on Oak Island giving Bigfoot a trim while Hitler plays the lute for his space alien lovers who have the social security lock box safe and sound.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 12, 2020 01:11 PM (Z+IKu)

325 I heard Epstein is alive and living large in Gitmo...in a special cell...

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:12 PM (zr5Kq)

326 You have to re-set it in your nic, every time.


Yeah, I was briefly using the unicode copyright symbol in my nic but having to fix it every time got annoying. I lack the troll OCD required.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:12 PM (yQpMk)

327 test

Posted by: Grump928© at September 12, 2020 01:13 PM (yQpMk)

328 You have to re-set it in your nic, every time.


Yeah, I was briefly using the unicode copyright symbol in my nic but having to fix it every time got annoying. I lack the troll OCD required.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:12 PM (yQpMk)


They reset every time? Losers.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:13 PM (zr5Kq)

329 Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (axyOa)
We are praying for everyone's safety.

Posted by: kallisto at September 12, 2020 01:13 PM (DJFLF)

330 Yeah, still wipes it out.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:13 PM (yQpMk)

331 We can't have nice emojis...

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:14 PM (zr5Kq)

332 > 325
I can honestly believe that one.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 12, 2020 01:14 PM (3H9h1)

333 fires started by antifa and their BLM buddies; that is terrorism
Posted by: runner


A lot of folks in my town are packing. Well, many do anyway, but I haven't seen this many rifles hanging in truck gun racks since high school.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 01:15 PM (axyOa)

334 My update:
Woke up to a eerie orange sky. Thick, mixed with a bit of fog and clingy. For once I don't mind wearing a mask...but indoors?
Fine ash on everything. My truck is gray. The local big fire is 30% contained and last night was the first when we didn't have an idiot arsonist try to start one.
Mrs D asked what did we want for dinner. I said Bar BQ. That earned me an odd look. She's had enough of smoke I guess.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (axyOa)


Colorado Governor Penis, in addition to having renewed the mask mandate for another 30 days, has the state on a fire ban. So no grilling, alas.

Now, the rule is if you can turn the fire OFF, rather than have to put it out, you can still grill, but to me that's cheating.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:15 PM (hku12)

335 We can't have nice emojis...

I'd settle for a nice RSS feed...

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 12, 2020 01:15 PM (2lndx)

336 One of the old Christian heresies that Umberto Eco put into Foucault's Pendulum (along with every other bit of cultural bric-a-brac he could find) was the idea that the Old Testament was actually Lucifer's version of the early history of man, and that the New Testament was God's.

That idea always struck me as mildly interesting, although wrong. Can't remember the specific name of the heresy though.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 12, 2020 12:52 PM (EGyGV)

I tried reading that mess (I sort of liked The Name of the Rose) and could not make heads or tails out of it.
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:00 PM (zr5Kq)

It WAS a mess.

But it had interesting ideas and some vivid set-pieces, so even though I kept putting it down, I kept picking it up again.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 12, 2020 01:16 PM (HrMC1)

337 Nood Flowers

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:16 PM (yQpMk)

338 We can't have nice emojis...
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:14 PM (zr5Kq)

Awwww! (pulls out 2.5" violin)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 12, 2020 01:16 PM (YpIxn)

339 🌹 thread

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:16 PM (zr5Kq)

340 A lot of folks in my town are packing. Well, many do anyway, but I haven't seen this many rifles hanging in truck gun racks since high school.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 01:15 PM (axyOa)

They know.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:17 PM (zr5Kq)

341 CBD, you lightweight hedonistic baby, the clown did nothing wrong. When did ace officially turn the keys over to you to ruin this blog and comment section for free speech, debate, and good faith discourse?
Ace of Charlie Brown's Dildo's. CBD cucking ace out of 10's of thousands of dollars from donations on the Right and good faith Trump supporters and researchers because of his emotional bannings and name calling.
I'm sure ace appreciates that.
I also notice there is no bitcoin or other cyrpto currency wallets to donate anonymously to ace. Why is that? I'd love to and so would many others anonymously to ace.

Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:17 PM (tb2ER)

342 You have to re-set it in your nic, every time.
Posted by: BifBewalski Moron at September 12, 2020 01:11 PM (VcFUs)


So then why do it?

It forces the rest of us to have to REMOVE the silly thing from your nic if we want to quote you. Eventually it just gets easier to ignore your comments.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:18 PM (hku12)

343 CBD just got a loveletter.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:18 PM (zr5Kq)

344 Here's a remarkable essay on September 10, 2001:

I've been trying to remember September 10 but it's no go.
I know what I must have been doing, but I don't remember what I did. I kept no notes on that most ordinary of September days. I kept many notes on the day that followed and the days, weeks, months and years that followed that day. What I do know is that whatever might have followed September 10 was taken from us all that day never to be returned or recaptured...


In a similar way, we are going through a similar "new normal" regarding COVID-19.

Does anyone remember what it was like just 6 months ago when no one knew or cared about COVID-19; or wearing masks before being allowed into any store or restaurant; or "social distancing"; or limitations on gatherings such as church services, funerals and weddings; or cancellations of all fan-attended professional and college sporting events, etc?

And does anyone think elected officials are going to ever allow us to return or recapture that lifestyle ever again?

The big difference between the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and this COVID-19 op is that while the government enacted the Patriot Act and stricter travel security, elected officials encouraged everyone to get back to living life as normal.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 12, 2020 01:18 PM (Do5/p)

345 Lucky guy.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:19 PM (zr5Kq)

346 317

I was taught and also taught myself all you can imagine about WW2. But it all happened decades before I was born. It is important sure but in a personal or emotional level it doesnt do much for me. Same with anyone born say 1996 and later as far as 9/11 goes. You had to have been there and understand what was going on in real time to get it.

Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 01:19 PM (FlcKk)

347 Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:17 PM (tb2ER)


Piss off, Clown.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:20 PM (yQpMk)

348 Nood flowers.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 12, 2020 01:20 PM (j3jZX)

349 Central WA is all smoke and unhealthy air.
My friend is coming here for the weekend because as bad as it is here, her place is much worse.
The ridge to my south is shrouded. No air movement at all.
The sun is simply not visible.
Air inside the house tastes like smoke but coffee helps that.
The media and state, especially in OR are downplaying the arson/antifa possibility.
In an ultimate irony and spit in the face of law abiding citizens, the Multnomah Co, Portland, sheriff's dept. is warning citizens to NOT, block roads to prevent access to their communities.
It seems that blocking roads and streets is actually illegal in OR.
Unless it's Portland and you're antifa/blm.
Yeah, there's going to be bloodshed.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at September 12, 2020 01:20 PM (d9Irc)

350 The FBI has denied that Antifa/BLM is responsible for arson fires.
Which tells me that Antifa/BLM is directly responsible for arson fires.

Posted by: navybrat the irritable at September 12, 2020 01:21 PM (w7KSn)

351 I live near Davis Ca. and I haven't seen the sun for almost one month due to the LNU Lightning Complex Fire up near Lake Berryessa. Smoke and ash every single day the whole month with the only respite coming when we visited our oldest daughter in Florida.

Coupled with COVID restrictions I swear its been like living in hell here.

Dan

Posted by: Dansgirls at September 12, 2020 01:22 PM (V25ON)

352 Coupled with COVID restrictions I swear its been like living in hell here.



Yes, sure sounds like it. The air is poisonous.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:23 PM (zr5Kq)

353 The FBI has denied that Antifa/BLM is responsible for arson fires.
Which tells me that Antifa/BLM is directly responsible for arson fires.
Posted by: navybrat the irritable at September 12, 2020 01:21 PM (w7KSn)


Pretty much, yeah.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:23 PM (hku12)

354 279

Posted by: 1f0a1 at September 12, 2020 01:23 PM (vzKmu)

355 I want in on the annoying...

Posted by: 🦇 at September 12, 2020 01:24 PM (UUBmN)

356 347 Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:17 PM (tb2ER)


Piss off, Clown.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:20 PM (yQpMk)

Ironically, the clowns are the ones who volunteer for the JIDF using this place as a meet up to control the conservative narrative to spread out to other conservative and right wing blogs and message boards.
So no, I'm not the clown.

Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:24 PM (XTH7D)

357 The snow knocked down the worst of the Cameron peak fire, but it is far from over. They currently have 4% containment and last I saw they do not expect full containment until the end of October.

Currently it is low flames and smoldering in a large portion of the 102,000 acres, and could easily flare back up.

For now, though, no smoke in the Front Range.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Big Dumb Weirdo at September 12, 2020 01:24 PM (x8Wzq)

358 Are too.

Posted by: BignJames at September 12, 2020 01:25 PM (X/Pw5)

359 I should bake a cake...

Posted by: lin-duh en-nui at September 12, 2020 01:26 PM (UUBmN)

360 20 years after dec 7 1941 the world was fundamentally different because of what happened that day.

20 years after 9/11 the world is kinda unchanged if you really think about it.

Which is why the next generation doesnt really care. It was an event that was for those alive at that time. 20 years on we remember the event but the consequences of that event historically speaking are not that great. We have tsa patting down old ladies and we got rid of a few assholes in the Mid East who were replaced by other assholes. Other than that....

Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 01:26 PM (FlcKk)

361 Colorado Governor Penis, in addition to having renewed the mask mandate for another 30 days, has the state on a fire ban. So no grilling, alas.

Now, the rule is if you can turn the fire OFF, rather than have to put it out, you can still grill, but to me that's cheating.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:15 PM (hku12)

In 1964, 1992, 2008, 2012, and 2016, CO went blue. Red all other times since 1964.

BUT a closer look at the state government reveals its Dem tendencies. In my lifetime, it has had only ONE Republican gov, for eight years. Bill Owens, of course.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 01:26 PM (SSJSf)

362 ...to control the conservative narrative...
Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:24 PM


No, yeah, you're a clown.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:27 PM (hku12)

363 One is almost forced to wonder what caused wildfires before antifa, or man-caused climate change, or bad forest management policies even existed. Because the geologic and biological record seems to indicate they've been going on ..... for millions of years.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2020 01:27 PM (OTzUX)

364 Nancy Pelosi is #3 on the org chart of USA, Inc.

What a stupid time to be alive

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 12, 2020 01:27 PM (9TdxA)

365 Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:15 PM (hku12)

I thought the most recent mask mandate by polesucker ends next week on the 16th?

Posted by: Infidel at September 12, 2020 01:27 PM (R4aZ2)

366 275 To my kids born after 9.11 the day is another day that has some history. But they will never understand what it means. You had to have been of age on that day to get it. Dec 7 is a day I know about but Other than knowing what happened, I have no emotional connection to it. It is another day on the calendar for me.
Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 12:59 PM (FlcKk)
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So true.
Sept. 11 means something to my two older kids, who were over 8, i.e., well into the age of long-term clear memory.
The two younger ones, pre-schooler and baby at the time --- eh.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 01:29 PM (M/9m0)

367 Where I live we have a mask mandate too. And everyone ignores it.

Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 01:29 PM (FlcKk)

368 The weird thing is, I can remember exactly what was going on in my life on September 10, 2001. Perhaps the events of the next day amplified that. But I do know what was going on that day.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 01:30 PM (SSJSf)

369 363 One is almost forced to wonder what caused wildfires before antifa, or man-caused climate change, or bad forest management policies even existed. Because the geologic and biological record seems to indicate they've been going on ..... for millions of years.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2020 01:27 PM (OTzUX)

Except in Canada right now compared to our country. There are a total of 3-5. There are hundreds right now going on all at once.
Crazy coincidences.

Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:30 PM (XTH7D)

370 Colorado Governor Penis, in addition to having renewed the mask mandate for another 30 days, has the state on a fire ban. So no grilling, alas.

Now, the rule is if you can turn the fire OFF, rather than have to put it out, you can still grill, but to me that's cheating.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:15 PM (hku12)

In 1964, 1992, 2008, 2012, and 2016, CO went blue. Red all other times since 1964.

BUT a closer look at the state government reveals its Dem tendencies. In my lifetime, it has had only ONE Republican gov, for eight years. Bill Owens, of course.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 12, 2020 01:26 PM (SSJSf)


Colorado of course is all in with the mail in balloting. Which I assume means any reversal is not possible.

My only concern is, this year we knocked off a Gope in Congress, and the Republican candidate is a political novice (an awfully good looking one). So I'm wondering if the mail in nonsense is sufficiently in place to keep her from winning in November, when all indications I've seen is that the district SHOULD be very very red.

She's running against a harpy who has run for this office before, and presumably has backing from the lefties on the front range. If she wins..... I can't see how she could possibly win, unless their cheating is that good.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:32 PM (hku12)

371 On 9/10/01 I played golf and was excited that I got 2 birdies on the back 9. I was really psyched that happened since getting even 1 birdie for me out of 18 was a rare occurrence. I had just started playing recently.

Life is weird.

Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 01:33 PM (FlcKk)

372 Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:15 PM (hku12)

I thought the most recent mask mandate by polesucker ends next week on the 16th?
Posted by: Infidel at September 12, 2020 01:27 PM (R4aZ2)


Renewed yesterday. He always does this crap on Friday afternoons.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:34 PM (hku12)

373 Foreclosure Of A Dream

Posted by: mayate lips at September 12, 2020 01:35 PM (vzKmu)

374 362 ...to control the conservative narrative...
Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:24 PM


No, yeah, you're a clown.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:27 PM (hku12)

You are either ignorant or deceitful in your knowledge of the founding of the conservative movement by Trotskyites (Irving Kristol and the gang) and a flaming homosexual in Buckley.
Your rainbow wig and squirting flower are showing.

Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:35 PM (XTH7D)

375 One is almost forced to wonder what caused wildfires before antifa, or man-caused climate change, or bad forest management policies even existed. Because the geologic and biological record seems to indicate they've been going on ..... for millions of years.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2020 01:27 PM (OTzUX)


Some of them are definitely caused by climate change.

As in, one moment there's no lightning, and the next moment there is. Thus, climate change.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:37 PM (hku12)

376 Get lost Pepe.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:38 PM (zr5Kq)

377 344---The big difference between the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and this COVID-19 op is that while the government enacted the Patriot Act and stricter travel security, elected officials encouraged everyone to get back to living life as normal.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 12, 2020 01:18 PM (Do5/p)
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Good point.

Also, your question about when, if ever, we will be allowed to go back to normal is the one that has troubled me from the very beginning. What are the criteria that would allow a return? NO ONE WILL SAY.
And if they do say, they just move the goal posts or suppress the data.




Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 01:38 PM (M/9m0)

378 Renewed yesterday. He always does this crap on Friday afternoons.
Posted by: BurtTC

I wish that guy would die in a fire. He must have an asshole bigger than Hope Solo. *spit*

Posted by: Infidel at September 12, 2020 01:39 PM (R4aZ2)

379 I remember the message after 9/11 was that "if we don't get back to living life as normal and stop living in fear, the terrorists have won".

No such message of "if we don't get back to living life as normal and stop living in fear, the virus has won" has been pushed today.

Just the opposite, in fact. Now the message is to force everyone to live in fear... of a barely-more-dangerous-than-seasonal-flu virus.

We live in a complete opposite culture and society now than we did just 20 years ago. Hell, H1N1 was just 11 years ago. And the live-in-fear message was not pushed back then.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 12, 2020 01:39 PM (Do5/p)

380 344

Maybe because I live in a red state it is different for me but on a day to day basis, my life is no different today than pre Corona. I go out in public like always, everything here is open, schools included. Other than a few Karens wearing masks youd never know this nonsense exists.

Posted by: Asshoes at September 12, 2020 01:42 PM (FlcKk)

381
Back in the day, over a dozen years ago, our parish was solicited to host a funeral for a member of one of the DuPont families in this area. We did so.

Later, our Rector told us (the members of the vestry) the reason that the service came to be at our parish was that we had no ban on the playing of "The Battle Hymn of The Republic", whereas the decedent's home parish for the swells, just up the road, forbade it.

Proto-woke and Episcopalian is no way to go through life, or commemorative services after death.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 12, 2020 01:42 PM (pNxlR)

382 374----You are either ignorant or deceitful in your knowledge of the founding of the conservative movement by Trotskyites (Irving Kristol and the gang) and a flaming homosexual in Buckley.....
Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:35 PM (XTH7D)
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Good grief. Speaking of ignorance, ......

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 01:44 PM (M/9m0)

383 The big difference between the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and this COVID-19 op is that while the government enacted the Patriot Act and stricter travel security, elected officials encouraged everyone to get back to living life as normal.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 12, 2020 01:18 PM (Do5/p)
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Good point.

Also, your question about when, if ever, we will be allowed to go back to normal is the one that has troubled me from the very beginning. What are the criteria that would allow a return? NO ONE WILL SAY.
And if they do say, they just move the goal posts or suppress the data.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 01:38 PM (M/9m0)


Anyone who is even casually paying attention has to notice that Foxy Fauci changes his story from week to week.

I'm NOT paying close enough attention to know exactly what he's saying might be lies, and which things he says may be direct contradictions of stuff he's said before, but the general gist is, he's bouncing the message like a superball.

And I think that's his job. I think the Gates/Who/World Bank folks told him to go out there and confuse people. Which he's done masterfully.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:45 PM (hku12)

384 Woke up to a eerie orange sky. Thick, mixed with a bit of fog and clingy. For once I don't mind wearing a mask...but indoors?
Fine ash on everything. My truck is gray. The local big fire is 30% contained and last night was the first when we didn't have an idiot arsonist try to start one.
Mrs D asked what did we want for dinner. I said Bar BQ. That earned me an odd look. She's had enough of smoke I guess.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (axyOa)


If these fires turn out in fact to have been set by antifa/BLM ...

*types deletes*

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 01:46 PM (vs7JI)

385 If these fires turn out in fact to have been set by antifa/BLM ...



*types deletes*

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 01:46 PM (vs7JI)


FWIW, Tim Pool has a new video out citing some examples of Antifa types trying to set fires around the area including 3 guys who were trying to set fire to a hotel.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 12, 2020 01:47 PM (M4E/B)

386 377

Also, your question about when, if ever, we will be allowed to go back to normal is the one that has troubled me from the very beginning. What are the criteria that would allow a return? NO ONE WILL SAY.

And if they do say, they just move the goal posts or suppress the data.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 01:38 PM

Same here. I asked these exact questions and posed that exact scenario about 3-4 weeks into this mess back around the beginning of April.

Back then it was becoming obvious, as they kept extending the shutdowns based on... nothing, really.

And then when it became obvious that they were lying about the numbers, yet no one was calling them on it, it dawned on me that they could keep this going indefinitely. Because there was no possible way to check them, since the numbers were garbage.

Then, like you said, they moved the goalposts. Instead of "slowing the spread", it became "stay home, stay safe, save lives". Then it turned from a focus on the deaths to a focus on the cases. And then we found out the cases data was bullshit, because the tests were bullshit. Then they enacted the contact tracing and the 14-day quarantine. Then it was "wait for the vaccine".

And on and on and on and on. Constantly moving the goalposts and changing the targets and changing the way to count the data, and changing which data was actually important.

For the first month or two, I was religiously following the data and doing calculations and comparisons, trying to make sense of it all and predict when they could open things up again. I immediately said to fuck with it all once I found out the data was all bullshit.

And came to develop my theory that this is all a Deep State-China joint op and they're going to keep us like this for as long as they want to sow chaos.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 12, 2020 01:48 PM (Do5/p)

387 Woke up to a eerie orange sky. Thick, mixed with a bit of fog and clingy. For once I don't mind wearing a mask...but indoors?
Fine ash on everything. My truck is gray. The local big fire is 30% contained and last night was the first when we didn't have an idiot arsonist try to start one.
Mrs D asked what did we want for dinner. I said Bar BQ. That earned me an odd look. She's had enough of smoke I guess.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 01:09 PM (axyOa)

If these fires turn out in fact to have been set by antifa/BLM ...

*types deletes*
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 01:46 PM (vs7JI)


I think it's fairly obvious the ones that start in the medians, or just off the interstate highways were deliberately set, and presumably the setters are antifa types.

You'd have to catch the actual arsonist though to know.

What bugs me though is FBI coming out and saying "nah, not antifa."

How the F do you know, you crooks?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:48 PM (hku12)

388 Covid nightmare has one purpose - to kill POTUS's chances of reelection. They figured once done, they can allocate money to failing states and cities to make up for damage.

Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:50 PM (zr5Kq)

389 Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:35 PM (XTH7D)

Whereas the CPUSA was founded by upright patriotic Americans, the salt of the earth, amirite?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 01:50 PM (vs7JI)

390 I think it's fairly obvious the ones that start in the medians, or just off the interstate highways were deliberately set, and presumably the setters are antifa types.

How the F do you know, you crooks?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:48 PM (hku12)


I agree that a number of the fires were probably deliberately set, but we need proof before implementing Operation TypeDelete.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 01:51 PM (vs7JI)

391 383

Anyone who is even casually paying attention has to notice that Foxy Fauci changes his story from week to week.

I'm NOT paying close enough attention to know exactly what he's saying might be lies, and which things he says may be direct contradictions of stuff he's said before, but the general gist is, he's bouncing the message like a superball.

And I think that's his job. I think the Gates/Who/World Bank folks told him to go out there and confuse people. Which he's done masterfully.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:45 PM

Yep.

https://ihr.fm/3bK5Tvy

Dr. Anthony Fauci's 15 Totally Wrong Predictions and Contradictions

I think it is beyond obvious by now that this is a Deep State op and Fauci was their main man.

What got me thinking early on was how the media absolutely LOVED Dr. Fauci.

Think back to any Republican Administration in our lifetimes and name even one official whom the media loved like they do Fauci. There have been none. Every official in a Republican Administration has always been hated and never trusted by the media and Left.

So for every single one of them to never question a damn thing that came out of Fauci's mouth and to never call him to task on his numerous contradictory statements... tells me that everyone in the media knew he was a Deep State plant and were told to treat him as such.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 12, 2020 01:52 PM (Do5/p)

392 384---If these fires turn out in fact to have been set by antifa/BLM ...

*types deletes*
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 01:46 PM (vs7JI)
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If antifa/BLM did set a major one, the ruling class will never allow that knowledge to get out. Never.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 01:53 PM (M/9m0)

393 Good grief. Speaking of ignorance, ......


It's like a Leftist parody of a looney right winger, complete with yarn stretched across his foil covered walls.

Wheels within wheels.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:53 PM (yQpMk)

394 I think it's fairly obvious the ones that start in the medians, or just off the interstate highways were deliberately set, and presumably the setters are antifa types.

How the F do you know, you crooks?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:48 PM (hku12)

I agree that a number of the fires were probably deliberately set, but we need proof before implementing Operation TypeDelete.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 01:51 PM (vs7JI)


Right, and that's just it. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume there's not going to be any kind of true investigation, because agencies are either handcuffed, or they're truly compromised.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:54 PM (hku12)

395 It's like a Leftist parody of a looney right winger, complete with yarn stretched across his foil covered walls.

Wheels within wheels.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 12, 2020 01:53 PM (yQpMk)


Revealed itself to be a variation of the "I'm a lifelong Republican..." type troll.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:55 PM (hku12)

396 We know the big fire near me was a result of wind, broken branches and power lines. But several of the others were deliberate. One even said he's Antifa.
In Oregon the natural causes seem to follow the interstate. Hmm.
Either way, we're not out of the woods yet. A new week coming with more Dem surprises.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 12, 2020 01:56 PM (axyOa)

397 In a recent (today even) NY Post, there is a story about a female Chinese lab worker who worked in the Wuhan virus lab (the one financed with US tax dollars, $3.7 million).
She claims to have solid evidence that the Wuhan virus lab is the origin of COVID19, and that it was not an accident that the outbreak occurred when it did, just as DJT was hammering China on the trade deals.
She also says there are more man made strains ready to be unleashed.
She is now in hiding.

Posted by: navybrat the irritable at September 12, 2020 01:56 PM (w7KSn)

398 389 Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:35 PM (XTH7D)

Whereas the CPUSA was founded by upright patriotic Americans, the salt of the earth, amirite?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 01:50 PM (vs7JI)

Nope, they were founded by Marxist traitors deserving of the rope as well.

Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 01:57 PM (XTH7D)

399 386---Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 12, 2020 01:48 PM (Do5/p)
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That's a great summary of the progression of this "crisis."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 01:57 PM (M/9m0)

400 Nobody has a gun to the heads of these people who live where it burns up every couple years.

Move, for Chrissake. Just do not bring your nutty politics.

Posted by: Chester White at September 12, 2020 01:59 PM (1jtLj)

401 If antifa/BLM did set a major one, the ruling class will never allow that knowledge to get out. Never.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 01:53 PM (M/9m0)

Right, and that's just it. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume there's not going to be any kind of true investigation, because agencies are either handcuffed, or they're truly compromised.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:54 PM (hku12)


There's a third possibility re the agencies: they may figure it's better to wear some fires than to risk triggering wholesale vigilante justice nationwide.

I'm of two minds on this one.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 02:00 PM (vs7JI)

402 392 384---If these fires turn out in fact to have been set by antifa/BLM ...

*types deletes*
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 01:46 PM (vs7JI)
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If antifa/BLM did set a major one, the ruling class will never allow that knowledge to get out. Never.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 01:53 PM (M/9m0)

There are cell phone videos taken by individuals (at least 2) that big tech social media keeps deleting showing a person dressed in all black with a gas can and a torch around the edges of fires either starting them or making them larger by adding fuel.

Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 02:00 PM (XTH7D)

403 Nobody has a gun to the heads of these people who live where it burns up every couple years.

Move, for Chrissake. Just do not bring your nutty politics.
Posted by: Chester White at September 12, 2020 01:59 PM (1jtLj)


Good idea. Move to the Midwest. Oh wait, tornadoes. Move to Florida. Oh wait, hurrricanes. Move to the Northeast. Oh wait, blizzards.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 02:01 PM (vs7JI)

404 "They figured once done, they can allocate money to failing states and cities to make up for damage."

Blue state governors are now fucked, when Trump wins.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 12, 2020 02:04 PM (9TdxA)

405 Just got back from short 'toon ride on the lake.

Yesterday's forecast sunny all wknd and no rain. Today's forecast rain starting at 3p. 12:30p starts raining and we got partially douched racing back to dock.

Can't get a 48-72 hour forecast correct, but can predict Climate Change? Don't think so. Harrumph.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at September 12, 2020 02:05 PM (cxolL)

406 387---What bugs me though is FBI coming out and saying "nah, not antifa."
How the F do you know, you crooks?
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:48 PM (hku12)
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Reminds me of the case of Notre Dame cathedral in Paris. They were denying terrorism before the fires were even put out.

Translation from Leftese to plain English: "If we find out that any of our favored groups did this, we'll never tell you."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 02:06 PM (M/9m0)

407 The major fires in my neck of the woods (two over 300k acres and one over 800k) were all started by lightning. I was out walking in the nature habitat at 5am in the morning and could see the lightning strikes off to the West. Was a weird morning.

PG&E power lines were definitely not the cause.

Of course our idiot Governor immediately claimed it was the fault of global warming.

Posted by: Dansgirls at September 12, 2020 02:06 PM (V25ON)

408 (C+evo)

May be trolling us on the Battle Hymn, but his commentary on Whu Flu and it's associated statistics have been revelatory.

On that alone, I give him a pass.

Posted by: browndog at September 12, 2020 02:06 PM (BgMrQ)

409 Covid nightmare has one purpose - to kill POTUS's chances of reelection. They figured once done, they can allocate money to failing states and cities to make up for damage.
Posted by: runner at September 12, 2020 01:50 PM (zr5Kq)

Concur.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 12, 2020 02:07 PM (Z+IKu)

410 Right, and that's just it. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume there's not going to be any kind of true investigation, because agencies are either handcuffed, or they're truly compromised.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:54 PM

Yeah, remember the Vegas massacre and how that was swept under the rug within weeks and no one ever talked about it again, not even the left to push gun control?

Then there was that Islamic children training compound somewhere (New Mexico?) where children were being taught how to commit school shootings or something? As soon as it started to get into social media, *poof!* the training facility was bulldozed to the ground and nothing ever heard about it again.

And we know Soros is funding all this shit that's been going on the last 6 months, but has anyone arrested him and charged him? Nope. And now the cruise-ship Republican journalists accuse anyone of criticizing Soros as "anti-Semitic", since Soros has them on their payroll.

As Leonard Cohen sings, "Everybody Knows the fight is fixed. That's how it goes. Everybody knows." We have not been a nation of laws in decades.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 12, 2020 02:08 PM (Do5/p)

411 Grump, help me out here. About 75% of the comments are now barely distinguishable from the parody you mention. It's pretty clear that, overall, it's now a medieval society, but I thought there were some corners that might not yet have regressed that far.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2020 02:08 PM (OTzUX)

412 The Bobcat fire in Southern California is close to me. However, I can't get any nice pictures of it because the smoke is so thick. When it cleared briefly on Thursday, I could clearly see the flames coming down the foothills. But most of the time, the only thing visible is grey or brown air.

Posted by: junior at September 12, 2020 02:09 PM (PTw5h)

413 402

There are cell phone videos taken by individuals (at least 2) that big tech social media keeps deleting showing a person dressed in all black with a gas can and a torch around the edges of fires either starting them or making them larger by adding fuel.

Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 02:00 PM

Yep, I saw those yesterday. On Ian Miles Cheong's Twitter feed, I think.

https://twitter.com/stillgray

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 12, 2020 02:13 PM (Do5/p)

414 Not that it wasn't obvious before but Slow Joe just outed himself using a teleprompter for an interview. His brain is mush.

https://tinyurl.com/yxpuwc8t

Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 02:13 PM (ZLI7S)

415

Black Lives Matter activists occupied a Trader Joe's in Seattle this week, claiming to be protesting "lack of access to grocery stores" and explaining to patrons "how capitalism exploits the working class."

Morning March Seattle, which advocates to abolish the police and invest in black communities, organised the gathering at the local grocery store to educate customers on the barriers black residents face such as gentrification.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 12, 2020 02:16 PM (63Dwl)

416 A preschooler was being fussed at by his big sister last week. He said " I'm a big boy now. I was born way back in 2016!"

I did not hear a Nyah, but it was implied by body positioning.

Thanks, kid.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 12, 2020 02:16 PM (hyuyC)

417 If antifa/BLM did set a major one, the ruling class will never allow that knowledge to get out. Never.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 01:53 PM (M/9m0)

Right, and that's just it. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume there's not going to be any kind of true investigation, because agencies are either handcuffed, or they're truly compromised.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 01:54 PM (hku12)

There's a third possibility re the agencies: they may figure it's better to wear some fires than to risk triggering wholesale vigilante justice nationwide.

I'm of two minds on this one.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 12, 2020 02:00 PM (vs7JI)


Could be. Some variation on what they used to say about UFOs (I know, I'm just saying), where the government is keeping the truth from us, because it could either A. Cause the people to be so thoroughly panicked that we'll ruin our civilization, or 2. Cause the aliens to decide to start zapping us if we acknowledged we know they're here.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 02:18 PM (hku12)

418 414 Not that it wasn't obvious before but Slow Joe just outed himself using a teleprompter for an interview. His brain is mush.
https://tinyurl.com/yxpuwc8t
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 02:13 PM (ZLI7S)
-----------------------------------------
And yet he stands a very good chance of being elected POTUS. This is where we are --- on the brink of despair.

(Well, this is where I, an admitted Eeyore, am.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 02:19 PM (M/9m0)

419 Bertram Cabot, Jr.

The Left are explicitly barbarians; against us and civilization.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 12, 2020 02:20 PM (hyuyC)

420 Margarita DeVille

Be of stout heart. They will not prevail. It may look a bit dicy, but they will lose. For reasons.

I'm betting my life on it, and I hold my remaining years dearly.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 12, 2020 02:23 PM (hyuyC)

421 Ha! New York Times is against peace in the Middle East. And rain is wet.

The US brokered peace deals between Israel and the UAE and Bahnrain are "isolating the Palestinians."

I would love to isolate the Palestinians on that island in the Indian Ocean where that erstwhile missionary got killed by the natives.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 02:24 PM (md0Us)

422 Salty Dawg, check the ONT

Hopefully answered the questions of who was defending US air space that day.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 02:26 PM (md0Us)

423 https://mobile.twitter.com/CfuFreedom/ status/1304620615744262144

BLM/Antifa Marxists take your pet to work day.
You can learn a lot about a people by how they treat their animals.

Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 02:27 PM (XTH7D)

424 >>And yet he stands a very good chance of being elected POTUS. This is where we are --- on the brink of despair.

>>(Well, this is where I, an admitted Eeyore, am.)

Trump's going to win. A bigger win than 2016.

Trump is doing a rally in Nevada today because Nevada is in play. Just yesterday volunteers knocked on the 3 millionth voter contact in Minnesota. Trump is expanding the map.

If the debates happen Trump will crush Biden. If Biden backs out it's a death blow. It's early September and Slow Joe is still hiding in his basement.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 02:28 PM (ZLI7S)

425 Reminds me of the case of Notre Dame cathedral in Paris. They were denying terrorism before the fires were even put out.

Translation from Leftese to plain English: "If we find out that any of our favored groups did this, we'll never tell you."

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 02:06 PM (M/9m0)


Yeah, remember the Vegas massacre and how that was swept under the rug within weeks and no one ever talked about it again, not even the left to push gun control?

Then there was that Islamic children training compound somewhere (New Mexico?) where children were being taught how to commit school shootings or something? As soon as it started to get into social media, *poof!* the training facility was bulldozed to the ground and nothing ever heard about it again.

And we know Soros is funding all this shit that's been going on the last 6 months, but has anyone arrested him and charged him? Nope. And now the cruise-ship Republican journalists accuse anyone of criticizing Soros as "anti-Semitic", since Soros has them on their payroll.

As Leonard Cohen sings, "Everybody Knows the fight is fixed. That's how it goes. Everybody knows." We have not been a nation of laws in decades.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 12, 2020 02:08 PM (Do5/p)


I wonder if there's something to this, the parts that involve muslim terrorists, has the government basically decided there's going to be a moratorium on identifying the culprits, because of the p.c. nonsense about how it'll cause the rest of us to be mean to the muzzies?

I think it's patently obvious they do that in Europe, where the clampdown is almost immediate and total. Before the blood is even dry on the pavement. Are we also doing it here?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 02:28 PM (hku12)

426 411 .... It's pretty clear that, overall, it's now a medieval society....
Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2020 02:08 PM (OTzUX)
---------------------------
Medieval? We should be so lucky --- depending on the century and location, of course.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 02:29 PM (M/9m0)

427 Joey Bidet refuses to debate.

Five minutes later Trump. "Look this guy won't even debate me. How do you expect him to deal with other countries?"

Might as well seal the doors to the basement because Bidet's goose will be cooked. Worse than business suit Dukakis riding in a tank

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 02:29 PM (md0Us)

428 Anna Puma

I answered your ONT midnight post with a later post. With more details.

That takes nothing away from the bravery of the Flight 93 team of heroes. They are still people to be very proud of. They were the only ones to down a terrorist plane that day.

The Feds in Air Traffic Control and the AF team did very well, but it was ordinary citizens who got the odds down to 3 planes vice four.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 12, 2020 02:31 PM (hyuyC)

429 WTF?

I never said anything to knock the heroes of United Flt 23.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 02:33 PM (md0Us)

430 eerr 93

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 02:33 PM (md0Us)

431 Wildfires set by arson occur all the time, often but not always the perps and full details are revealed by the investigation. Will be the same here.

And one thing about origin points near interstates and major roads. Ignition sparks from vehicles are actually the culprit in a significant number of cases - seems bizarre, but true. Also - general dumbassery by people (who of course are more numerous/present along interstates) accounts for another noticeable category. Not just cigarettes tossed out the window - much more ridiculous stuff. But not intentional.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2020 02:33 PM (OTzUX)

432 Legal Insurrection has a round up of some of the arsonists

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y4j5dv6q

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 02:35 PM (md0Us)

433 It has never appeared Biden had much chance. His chances have declined like the tail end curve of a passing epidemic, appropriately enough (oh - that's been happening, in case you didn't hear about it in the "press").

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2020 02:35 PM (OTzUX)

434 Salty Dawg after you signed off last night, I posted long paraphrases from Spencer's Touching History

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 02:38 PM (md0Us)

435 Margarita I was specifically referring to the pre-scientific fear and tribalism regarding the virus, and the astonishing prevalence and energy of the Unseen Forces Causing Everything religion.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 12, 2020 02:38 PM (OTzUX)

436 All in favor say "Aye".
Posted by: creeper at September 12, 2020 12:54 PM (XxJt1)

Aye!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

EYE !

Posted by: JT at September 12, 2020 02:38 PM (arJlL)

437 Slight variation on the "never put your d*ck in crazy" axiom.

Never put your money in crazy:

https://tinyurl.com/y4ojkwt8

I mean, she's awfully cute, but... those eyes!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 02:38 PM (hku12)

438 Tuned in to root for whoever was playing against Notre Dame. Got the BLM shit within the first five minutes. Turned it off.

Posted by: fly at September 12, 2020 02:41 PM (2M/TV)

439 424---...If the debates happen Trump will crush Biden....
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 02:28 PM (ZLI7S)
------------------------------
There is no guarantee that Biden will not have a good day and appear somewhat competent. The LIVs will be told that he won.

Oh, I'm such a natural pessimist!

Still, I do have a very hard time believing there are a significant number of 2016 Trump voters who will abandon him in 2020. And I personally know quite a few 2016 no-Trumpers who will vote for him this year.

It's the cheating that scares me the most.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 02:41 PM (M/9m0)

440
It's the cheating that scares me the most.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at

Me too.

Posted by: Infidel at September 12, 2020 02:42 PM (R4aZ2)

441 ...If the debates happen Trump will crush Biden....
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 02:28 PM (ZLI7S)
------------------------------
There is no guarantee that Biden will not have a good day and appear somewhat competent. The LIVs will be told that he won.

Oh, I'm such a natural pessimist!

Still, I do have a very hard time believing there are a significant number of 2016 Trump voters who will abandon him in 2020. And I personally know quite a few 2016 no-Trumpers who will vote for him this year.

It's the cheating that scares me the most.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at September 12, 2020 02:41 PM (M/9m0)


I think that's what a lot of the interviews are now, practice for Biden so he can seem less out of it for the debates.

Which is going to include some tech to help him along. Bugs in his ears, teleprompters off-camera. Pre-fed questions.

They'll pull out all the stops, and I damn well expect they will NOT let Trump confront Biden directly.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 12, 2020 02:45 PM (hku12)

442 >>And yet he stands a very good chance of being elected POTUS. This is where we are --- on the brink of despair.

>>(Well, this is where I, an admitted Eeyore, am.)

Trump's going to win. A bigger win than 2016.

Trump is doing a rally in Nevada today because Nevada is in play. Just yesterday volunteers knocked on the 3 millionth voter contact in Minnesota. Trump is expanding the map.

If the debates happen Trump will crush Biden. If Biden backs out it's a death blow. It's early September and Slow Joe is still hiding in his basement.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 12,


Jack
I want to believe but mail in ballot stuffing worries me. I'm in Michigan and I'm confident my governor will "find" as many ballots as are needed to keep Michigan "blue"

Posted by: Chillin the most at September 12, 2020 02:46 PM (lonOK)

443 >>There is no guarantee that Biden will not have a good day and appear somewhat competent. The LIVs will be told that he won.

>>Oh, I'm such a natural pessimist!

There's no guarantee that Slow Joe will be alive in 2 weeks.

Honestly, he can't give a softball interview without a teleprompter and having the questions in advance. How is he going to spend a couple hours trading blows with a man who lives for combat?

Trump is out there day after day taking all comers and he's been doing it for years. Slow Joe has been hiding and has no practice at all. He might not break down and start playing with himself but he will drift into incoherency. He always does.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 12, 2020 02:51 PM (ZLI7S)

444 Testing

Posted by: Abacus &1F0A1x at September 12, 2020 02:56 PM (ZSK0i)

445 2nd try

Posted by: Abacus F0A1 at September 12, 2020 02:57 PM (ZSK0i)

446 Trump is out there day after day taking all comers and he's been doing it for years. Slow Joe has been hiding and has no practice at all. He might not break down and start playing with himself but he will drift into incoherency. He always does.
Posted by: JackStraw September 12, 2020 02:51 PM (ZLI7S)


This is why there will be no debates.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2020 02:57 PM (hGohp)

447 The media attempts to cover for Biden's decrepitude is approaching satire. Weekend With Joey.

Posted by: Northernlurker, don't pay me no mind at September 12, 2020 02:59 PM (lgiXo)

448 And one last time...

Posted by: Abacus 🂡 at September 12, 2020 03:01 PM (ZSK0i)

449 In the opener, Trump will debate Chris Wallace as much as Biden.

Why don't you ask Sleepy Joe this? Why haven't you covered that?

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 12, 2020 03:03 PM (9TdxA)

450 *taps chin*

Which of these airframes were the three that scrambled from Langley back on 11 Sep 2001?

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxb2dcp9

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 12, 2020 03:05 PM (md0Us)

451 98
Nobody remembers the names of any of the other rides on the night of
April 18, 1775 (yes, I had to look it up). People only remember Paul
Revere.



Why?





*************



April 18, 1775 - a limerick



Now before we start placing the blame

Why Revere gets too much of the fame

On that glorious day

Two men each had their say

Paul Revere and old Will What's-His-Name

Posted by: Muldoon at September 12, 2020 12:05 PM (Fc5rx)





Best. Poem. About. April 18, 1775. EVAR!

Posted by: BurtTC

In the top 2 for sure.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at September 12, 2020 03:06 PM (LBiyC)

452 Ok, I think I've found an appropriate icon...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy &#x 1F37A at September 12, 2020 03:07 PM (ZSK0i)

453 Shitfire

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at September 12, 2020 03:08 PM (ZSK0i)

454 Saw this earlier today:

Does Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) open her presents on the evening of September 10, or do the more traditional thing and wait for the morning of September 11?

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 12, 2020 03:10 PM (9TdxA)

455 Biden will probably get (fake) the ChinaVirus, just before debate time. Then he will be fully recovered, just before the election, proving he is SuperManJoe?


Wasn't there a claim he was on barbiturates or some such, and it was causing his eye twitching/blinking? Even Trump said he would need to be drug tested. Theyr might be able to pump him up a little ... seems a little dangerous though, for a demented man who already had a couple strokes (or whatever brain cloud problem he had).

Posted by: illiniwek at September 12, 2020 03:23 PM (Cus5s)

456 Missed all afternoon between playing tree destroyer and wife having the tablet to watch a movie. Now it's the dead zone of the weektime.

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2020 04:00 PM (OjZpE)

457 Trump will win hands down. He may take NY.
He's going to NV either to win it or to cause Dems to move resources.

If the Dems successfully cheat all bets are off.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 12, 2020 04:00 PM (OqO0g)

458 446 Trump is out there day after day taking all comers and he's been doing it for years. Slow Joe has been hiding and has no practice at all. He might not break down and start playing with himself but he will drift into incoherency. He always does.
Posted by: JackStraw September 12, 2020 02:51 PM (ZLI7S)


This is why there will be no debates.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 12, 2020 02:57 PM (hGohp)

This, a presidential nominee spot for Biden, is rarefied air. He's never done well before - not without help from the MSM - and he won't do well in the debates now.

In the financial business, this is called reversion to the mean. In the best of times, Biden would be expected to fall to earth - and these certainly aren't the best of times for Sundown Joe.

The Biden campaign is on life support, and the plug will be formally pulled on 29 Sep 2020.

If you're trading Trump stock in the futures market, you'd best get your buy orders in before the first debate.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 12, 2020 04:02 PM (4tiP2)

459 James Woods lists a couple of the people arrested for arson. And don't last night one site had a click on to listen to a scanner - people were reporting arsonists left and right.

One guy was arrested twice in 24 hours.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 12, 2020 04:03 PM (OqO0g)

460 Braenyard that link to 1939 NY photos is fun to look at, not knowing squat about NY city quite lost but been trying to fing Google street view and go to the old photos. And as said reading The Forgotten Man so it's doubly interesting.

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2020 04:11 PM (OjZpE)

461
_Oregon man is accused of arson in connection with a fire that has caused major damage to several towns in Jackson County, The Oregonian/OregonLive

_SPRINGFIELD MAN ACCUSED OF STARTING SMALL BRUSH FIRE IN DEXTER, 9KEZI

_kron4news Sep 8
ARSON ARREST: A man is suspected of lighting three separate fires in Marin County as wildfires burn through California https://trib.al/e1OosqK

Posted by: Braenyard at September 12, 2020 04:13 PM (OqO0g)

462 Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2020 04:11 PM (OjZpE)

Yeah, after spending some time with it. Your technique is a good approach. Spent some time in Bedford Stuyvesant.
It was a middle class neighborhood.

It worked better for me to copy a selected image into a better format.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 12, 2020 04:18 PM (OqO0g)

463 How the fk is a guy arrested twice in 24 hours? Next time burn if fkin fingertips with a torch before they let him go.

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2020 04:19 PM (OjZpE)

464 I just have a tablet so it's limited capability. But reading history books always gets me interested in where it is I am reading. Worse to work with is 7 year war battles, no names are the same in former Prussia.

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2020 04:23 PM (OjZpE)

465
461
-Oregon man is accused of arson in connection with a fire that has caused major damage to several towns in Jackson County, The Oregonian/OregonLive

-SPRINGFIELD MAN ACCUSED OF STARTING SMALL BRUSH FIRE IN DEXTER, 9KEZI

_kron4news Sep 8
ARSON ARREST: A man is suspected of lighting three separate fires in Marin County as wildfires burn through California https://trib.al/e1OosqK
Posted by: Braenyard at September 12, 2020 04:13 PM (OqO0g)

Wow! You mean while Canada is experiencing 3-5 wildfires, our West Coast and Mountain West States are experiencing 100s in clusters , and Marxist terrorists are being arrested for setting them along with video footage?!?!
I'm shocked AntiFa/BLM/NeoCons/Derp State would do such things. /s
Spoiler: I'll safely estimate based on Canada's vast wilderness which is comparable to ours, that at least 80% of the hundreds of fires raging were started on purpose.
Asymmetric warfare, baby!
When will POTUS declare AntiFa/BLM terrorist groups and begin the mass arrests? Or will this alienate and offend Javanka?

Posted by: anonymous blogger in the sphere at September 12, 2020 05:06 PM (UIJzI)

466 In the unlikely event there is a debate Trump can stack his front row guest seating with families with very pretty little girls - keep Biden's imagination occupied.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at September 12, 2020 05:11 PM (/Dgcm)

467 Town, city, forest, same thing
Antifa guy

Posted by: Skip at September 12, 2020 05:24 PM (OjZpE)

468 So would it be safe to say that wherever Gerard is, don't be there? He seems to attract disaster.

Posted by: NukemHill at September 12, 2020 05:29 PM (X/P8e)

469 Oh indeed... indeed I do attract disasters from time to time.

Other than that I must express my deepest thanks and gratitude for the very very kind words of KT here.

Posted by: Gerard vanderleun at September 12, 2020 09:56 PM (n9plY)

470 Oh I am such a putz.... came over from my favorite gardening thread of the week and forgot to check my six.

It is of course Open Blogger that I must thank for the kind words.

Open Blogger you da man.... !
Or das WOman if that is the case.

In either case, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Posted by: Gerard vanderleun at September 12, 2020 10:00 PM (n9plY)

471 Or maybe it is KT after all. The authorship here is confusing to me after only 28 bong hits so thanks to everyone and especially that wraithe of a man, ACE.

Posted by: Gerard vanderleun at September 12, 2020 10:04 PM (n9plY)

472 Gerard vanderleun at September 12, 2020 10:04 PM
Thanks for popping into the comments.

Thanks for posting all the great content recently. too.

I'm a woman, living in the valley below and a little South of the Creek Fire if that's how we're doing geography in California these days.

Posted by: KT at September 13, 2020 12:47 AM (BVQ+1)

473 test
f409

Posted by: gingeroni at September 13, 2020 10:12 PM (X7FeU)

474 fooey
🐉

Posted by: gingeroni at September 13, 2020 10:12 PM (X7FeU)

475 Ha!
🂡

Posted by: gingeroni at September 13, 2020 10:13 PM (X7FeU)

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