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Politico: Coronavirus Cases are Plunging, And That's... Apparently Some Kind of Political Danger for Trump
Politico spins Trump's success as Trump's coming failure.
Another Political article talks about the "peril" that plummeting infection rates pose for Trump. They decide to, um, prove that falling infection rates are just a mirage -- by rebutting actual, real current numbers with... more "models" about the future:
Coronavirus infections are down in nearly every state. That could either give President Donald Trump just what he needs to prime his reelection odds or become another missed opportunity to capitalize on a lull during the pandemic. The positive trends are real. Covid-19 cases have been falling since late July, including in several battleground states. Hospitalizations have dropped 37 percent in the last month and the daily death count is leveling off.
But that doesn’t mean the pandemic is over, even if Trump and his team portray it that way.
The circumstances create a moment to reinforce public health measures like testing, tracing and social distancing that could finally bring the outbreak to more manageable proportions, while the world waits for a vaccine or new treatments.
Politico then attempts to blame Trump for the fact that people can't return to their normal lives -- despite the fact that Trump is the one fighting for a return to normalcy, and Poltico's political allies and sources and leakers are the ones fighting to keep life as miserable as possible:
Morgan Stanley projects at least 6.5 million U.S. infections by October, and the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation on Thursday predicted more than 260,000 people could be dead from the virus by Election Day, a 44 percent increase from current levels.
Trump's focus on schools also suggests that the White House knows declining infection numbers aren't enough. All the surveys show people are still frustrated they can't return to their normal lives, said Robert Blendon, director of the Harvard Opinion Research Program. "He wouldn't be fighting so hard to make the schools open if he thought the [infection] numbers were enough," he said. "It's very measurable in people's lives. The president can't spin it."Democrats and their client groups, like teachers' unions, are the ones fighting to keep life abnormal, but Trump "can't spin" the abnormality of current life? I think someone's spinning here, but it's not Trump. And up to 90% of the "covid cases" we have are so minor, so low in "viral load," that the person showing the infection does not even need to be isolated, because he just doesn't have enough virus in him to spread it.
According to The New York Times, potentially 90 percent of those who have tested positive for COVID-19 have such insignificant amounts of the virus present in their bodies that such individuals do not need to isolate nor are they candidates for contact tracing. Leading public health experts are now concerned that overtesting is responsible for misdiagnosing a huge number of people with harmless amounts of the virus in their systems. "Most of these people are not likely to be contagious, and identifying them may contribute to bottlenecks that prevent those who are contagious from being found in time," warns The Times. So, if overtesting is causing "bottlenecks" that keep us from identifying contagious people in time, what does The New York Times believe the solution should be? More testing!I'm sure the fact that up to 90% of covid cases might be, effectively, false positives is also a Lurking Peril for Trump.
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Posted by: CN at September 02, 2020 01:01 PM (ONvIw)
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Why does Fauxchi have a job
Posted by: CN at September 02, 2020 01:01 PM (ONvIw)
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not first
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 02, 2020 01:01 PM (UWqZJ)
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and Birx
Posted by: CN at September 02, 2020 01:01 PM (ONvIw)
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"We need a third wave!"
-Translation
-Translation
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 02, 2020 01:02 PM (UWqZJ)
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Remember, it was two weeks to "flatten the curve" so hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed.
Everything from that point on has been a lie
Everything from that point on has been a lie
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2020 01:02 PM (aO8Gd)
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It's over!
And yet, half the residents in our college town are still walking around like it's the deadliest plague ever.
And yet, half the residents in our college town are still walking around like it's the deadliest plague ever.
Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne at September 02, 2020 01:03 PM (xU7mE)
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top 10
Posted by: eleven at September 02, 2020 01:04 PM (XTyi0)
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Can some governor stand up and do his best Moses and proclaim, "Let my people go!"
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 02, 2020 01:04 PM (WEBkv)
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BIL had to be tested for a trip to Alaska... Tested positive... he said try again... Two more tests... Negative....
Posted by: It's me donna at September 02, 2020 01:05 PM (Zmnko)
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According to The New York Times, potentially 90 percent of those who have tested positive for COVID-19 have such insignificant amounts of the virus present in their bodies that such individuals do not need to isolate ...
.. this reads like the CDC press release when they rolled back the 14-day quarantine last week.
.. this reads like the CDC press release when they rolled back the 14-day quarantine last week.
Posted by: SMOD at September 02, 2020 01:05 PM (3aI0K)
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:05 PM (8B6Ng)
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We must pounce on this lurking peril.
Posted by: eleven at September 02, 2020 01:05 PM (XTyi0)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2020 01:06 PM (s2VJv)
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They decide to, um, prove that falling infection rates are just a mirage -- by rebutting actual, real current numbers with... more "models" about the future:
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Like the models that claimed two *million* American dead by this point in the year? I trust anything from private industry more than anything from the CDC or WHO, but what expectation should there be that these new models are better than the old? More important, what are the people with real skin in the game - that is, insurance companies and their actuaries - saying?
Who knows? Probably no one. But given the modelers' recent track record - which called for corpses stacked up like cord wood from sea to shining sea - I am seriously skeptical.
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Like the models that claimed two *million* American dead by this point in the year? I trust anything from private industry more than anything from the CDC or WHO, but what expectation should there be that these new models are better than the old? More important, what are the people with real skin in the game - that is, insurance companies and their actuaries - saying?
Who knows? Probably no one. But given the modelers' recent track record - which called for corpses stacked up like cord wood from sea to shining sea - I am seriously skeptical.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 02, 2020 01:06 PM (Q8c/L)
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Top 20?
Posted by: Dad of Had at September 02, 2020 01:06 PM (pB6Gt)
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No one lurks better Lurch.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 02, 2020 01:06 PM (pB6Gt)
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Morons here today already have posted this, but it needs to be blasted everywhere: https://tinyurl.com/y23ptwba
It's a comedian satirizing the updated CDC numbers and how they terrorized us with them.
Also, teach your children and their children how the evil left was more than happy to use a virus as a weapon to destroy our nation. Never let this be forgotten and vote accordingly.
It's a comedian satirizing the updated CDC numbers and how they terrorized us with them.
Also, teach your children and their children how the evil left was more than happy to use a virus as a weapon to destroy our nation. Never let this be forgotten and vote accordingly.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at September 02, 2020 01:06 PM (8/7u2)
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You know, I've long thought the 'Rona Madness would end Nov. 4.
Now, I'm wondering if it might end sooner, if polling for D's goes south?
Hmmm,
Now, I'm wondering if it might end sooner, if polling for D's goes south?
Hmmm,
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 02, 2020 01:06 PM (WEBkv)
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11 According to The New York Times, potentially 90 percent of those who have tested positive for COVID-19 have such insignificant amounts of the virus present in their bodies that such individuals do not need to isolate ...
.. this reads like the CDC press release when they rolled back the 14-day quarantine last week.
Posted by: SMOD at September 02, 2020 01:05 PM (3aI0K)
Now all of a sudden the CDC has been coopted by Trump and not to be trusted, right?
A dear friend, who's smart but clueless, told me that.
Sigh.
.. this reads like the CDC press release when they rolled back the 14-day quarantine last week.
Posted by: SMOD at September 02, 2020 01:05 PM (3aI0K)
Now all of a sudden the CDC has been coopted by Trump and not to be trusted, right?
A dear friend, who's smart but clueless, told me that.
Sigh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2020 01:07 PM (s2VJv)
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We must pounce on this lurking peril.
Posted by: eleven at September 02, 2020 01:05 PM
Only if we get to seize on it as well.
Posted by: eleven at September 02, 2020 01:05 PM
Only if we get to seize on it as well.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 02, 2020 01:07 PM (ejd/p)
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Boy howdy!
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at September 02, 2020 01:07 PM (q86xC)
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Can the Dems crank up the mail vote fraud and positive COVID19 cases fraud at the same time? Hopefully they cannot multitask, or at least multitask poorly.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at September 02, 2020 01:07 PM (ch6++)
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NYT has been setting up the post-election "whelp, the COVID is not dangerous anymore, it's safe to do everything normally" stories for the last few weeks.
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020 01:08 PM (HEs3d)
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My mom had knee surgery last Thursday and had to get a corona test before. At the hospital. Results are STILL pending but they went ahead with the surgery anyway so WHAT WAS THE POINT??
Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne at September 02, 2020 01:08 PM (xU7mE)
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19 You know, I've long thought the 'Rona Madness would end Nov. 4.
Now, I'm wondering if it might end sooner, if polling for D's goes south?
Hmmm,
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 02, 2020 01:06 PM (WEBkv)
Unfortunately, they've traumatized so many people that some may go the rest of their lives wearing a mask in public.
Evil motherfuckers, these Dems.
Now, I'm wondering if it might end sooner, if polling for D's goes south?
Hmmm,
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 02, 2020 01:06 PM (WEBkv)
Unfortunately, they've traumatized so many people that some may go the rest of their lives wearing a mask in public.
Evil motherfuckers, these Dems.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2020 01:08 PM (s2VJv)
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In other pandemic news Georga teachers are opposing a measure that would declare them essential workers and make them exempt from quarantine and stay at home work rules, Which is really weird since I have been hearing for decade that teaching "our" children is the most important job ever.
Governor is mulling it over, hope he does to hear the teachers how unfair it all is and that they are essential but in way that requires them to stay home.
Governor is mulling it over, hope he does to hear the teachers how unfair it all is and that they are essential but in way that requires them to stay home.
Posted by: Ripley at September 02, 2020 01:08 PM (MxEKc)
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This hysteria has been fetishized. It's disgusting. I'm so sick of it. I've had to go on meds to control my anger, frustration and despondency.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (vg8iE)
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Where are all the sick people?
Posted by: Where are all the sick people at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (UakdN)
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We're living through the most spectacular and soul-crushing episode of mass gaslighting that the world ever experienced.
Posted by: kallisto at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (DJFLF)
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It is a problem for someone, but that someone ain't Trump.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (kA3Cp)
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What would the Chinese Virus have been if Hilldawg were president? Just another Swine Flu? Or an excuse to nationalize every industry?
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (LZ7Gl)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (1ISKN)
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Like the models that claimed two *million* American dead by this point in the year?
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TRUMP SAVES TWO MILLION LIVES
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TRUMP SAVES TWO MILLION LIVES
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (HEs3d)
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My company is still acting like this is a deathly epidemic that will kill millions, but I think it's more political than anything else. CEO refuses to enforce face mask "guidelines," won't require a vaccine to come to work, and in general is looking at this as a way to optimize remote work arrangements.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (4k/Uz)
Posted by: Lurking Peril at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (XTyi0)
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Remember, it was two weeks to "flatten the curve" so hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed.
Everything from that point on has been a lie
Posted by: RoyalOil
I think it was all a lie, from Day One, whenever you want to assign a date to it.
And soon, we will be compelled to take a vaccine that may or may not be WORSE than the virus.
People did indeed DIE of the virus, and it also was opportunistic in causing fatalities among those already with compromised immune systems.
But....people die every year, every day. People die from the Flu in regular flu season. I am not happy, capering over the dead bodies of people that have died, or are sick and continue to suffer from the effects of the virus, but the reaction to it was the wrong one, and we and President Trump were repeatedly "lied to" by the so-called experts.
Everything from that point on has been a lie
Posted by: RoyalOil
I think it was all a lie, from Day One, whenever you want to assign a date to it.
And soon, we will be compelled to take a vaccine that may or may not be WORSE than the virus.
People did indeed DIE of the virus, and it also was opportunistic in causing fatalities among those already with compromised immune systems.
But....people die every year, every day. People die from the Flu in regular flu season. I am not happy, capering over the dead bodies of people that have died, or are sick and continue to suffer from the effects of the virus, but the reaction to it was the wrong one, and we and President Trump were repeatedly "lied to" by the so-called experts.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (vcOmj)
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Now, I'm wondering if it might end sooner, if polling for D's goes south?
Someone fax this to Gov Wolf in PA who just extended his emergency order for 90 days two days ago!!
Someone fax this to Gov Wolf in PA who just extended his emergency order for 90 days two days ago!!
Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (xU7mE)
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When/If this ends...what's next for the mask Karens?
Posted by: BignJames at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (X/Pw5)
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It's over!
And yet, half the residents in our college town are still walking around like it's the deadliest plague ever.
Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne at September 02, 2020
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Every single student I've seen on campus is masked; every staffer (except me, when I can get away with it); every faculty member (who, if they had all bonded together over this, could have forced the admin to ditch the masks nonsense -- who would teach if none of the faculty show up?). Stupid, stupid.
And yet, half the residents in our college town are still walking around like it's the deadliest plague ever.
Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne at September 02, 2020
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Every single student I've seen on campus is masked; every staffer (except me, when I can get away with it); every faculty member (who, if they had all bonded together over this, could have forced the admin to ditch the masks nonsense -- who would teach if none of the faculty show up?). Stupid, stupid.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (Ejm1K)
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Don't worry Ohio just had its highest cases since July! And totalitarian gnome dickhead DeWine is warning about a possible spike again after Labor Day.
My guess? Schools are starting back up and a they're testing teachers and college students and that's led to an increase.
My guess? Schools are starting back up and a they're testing teachers and college students and that's led to an increase.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (CzsKO)
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Funny how Politico neglects the possibility that instead of doing things for political purposes, Trump is trying to reopen the country because he loves America and its people. What disingenuous asshats.
Posted by: DPICM at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (W1EDf)
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The Dems polling must be getting bad for the Rona lockdowns and the Riots
Posted by: Dad of Had at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (pB6Gt)
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Seriously, some people are going to be so sad when the Corona is gone.
...and can we get some sort of Federal Ruling on Disaster / Emergency Declarations?
There is no fucking reason in hell that a Governor should be given Universal Powers for 6+ Months.
...and can we get some sort of Federal Ruling on Disaster / Emergency Declarations?
There is no fucking reason in hell that a Governor should be given Universal Powers for 6+ Months.
Posted by: garrett at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (3vFNy)
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In the last thread was this comment:
151 Wife just showed me a video of an Italian Dr. reading a letter discussing how the Covid-19 vaccines will be used to kill off humans in a world effort for population control.
Sadly, I can't dismiss it as a conspiracy theory.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 02, 2020 12:39 PM
I wanted to note this is basically the plot to the Tom Clancy novel Rainbow Six.
151 Wife just showed me a video of an Italian Dr. reading a letter discussing how the Covid-19 vaccines will be used to kill off humans in a world effort for population control.
Sadly, I can't dismiss it as a conspiracy theory.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 02, 2020 12:39 PM
I wanted to note this is basically the plot to the Tom Clancy novel Rainbow Six.
Posted by: Grimmy at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (6K3U5)
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I just had Sky News on and the Brits were talking to some American professor who claimed (without providing any numbers) that the infection rate hasn't decline at all in the US. This was in response to a question about a second wave............the prof said there can't be a second wave because we're still in the middle of the first wave.
Lying liars who lie are in great demand I guess.
Lying liars who lie are in great demand I guess.
Posted by: East Bay Jay at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (DePyg)
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I saw this - idiotic, desperate spin. It's Bad because you just THINK they are falling, they're about to jump back up! LOCK DOWN EVERYTHING TO BE SAFE!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (Kpl3J)
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Sorry for the early O/T, but I have to get back to work.
So I signed up for a livestream from a major statistics and data visualization software company. The topic is supposed to be Data Visualization for Scientists and Engineers.
So I sign on and what is the title of the talk?
Applying racial equity awareness in data visualization.
I am not kidding. We are being lectured on this trash by, of course, a white guy.
He said he would talk about how to apply this nonsense to various things including SHAPES, freaking shapes, used in graphs.
Next slide has a pic of someone holding up a BLM sign at a protest.
I'm out. I have better things to do with my time.
Ugh.
So I signed up for a livestream from a major statistics and data visualization software company. The topic is supposed to be Data Visualization for Scientists and Engineers.
So I sign on and what is the title of the talk?
Applying racial equity awareness in data visualization.
I am not kidding. We are being lectured on this trash by, of course, a white guy.
He said he would talk about how to apply this nonsense to various things including SHAPES, freaking shapes, used in graphs.
Next slide has a pic of someone holding up a BLM sign at a protest.
I'm out. I have better things to do with my time.
Ugh.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (9hauA)
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Now all of a sudden the CDC has been coopted by Trump and not to be trusted, right?
Have Fauci/Birx refuted current CDC guidance?
Have Fauci/Birx refuted current CDC guidance?
Posted by: kallisto at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (DJFLF)
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This is Trump propaganda! He's killing grandma!!! Wait...the New York Times? Never mind. Stay safe.
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (vtcmf)
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (HEs3d)
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"... it was two weeks to "flatten the curve" so hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed.
Everything from that point on has been a lie" yes, but "flatten the curve" was also a lie.
More and more, I think it was an Op from the get go ... they knew it was not so bad ... even if it was, the shutdown of everything was never how we dealt with pandemics. It was all just another #2weeks PsyOp, with intent from the beginning to shut our economy down ... maybe even early intent to get vote by mail.
Everything from that point on has been a lie" yes, but "flatten the curve" was also a lie.
More and more, I think it was an Op from the get go ... they knew it was not so bad ... even if it was, the shutdown of everything was never how we dealt with pandemics. It was all just another #2weeks PsyOp, with intent from the beginning to shut our economy down ... maybe even early intent to get vote by mail.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (Cus5s)
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I still want them to release the flu numbers. It seems the flu has miraculously disappeared.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (2DOZq)
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"the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation on Thursday predicted more than 260,000 people could be dead from the virus by Election Day."
They misspelled 13,000.
They misspelled 13,000.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (H8QX8)
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I noticed a story about the use of steroids to treat the inflammation due to the SARS-COv2 virus was accepted as a treatment by WHO
... after they early on strongly discouraged the use of steroids.
Always a day late and a dollar overspent
... after they early on strongly discouraged the use of steroids.
Always a day late and a dollar overspent
Posted by: SMOD at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (3aI0K)
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question for the horde:
Are other countries using the same tests & methodology as us?
I've long been suspicious of the US numbers compared to the rest of the world. It makes zero sense that our numbers are much higher than, say, Germany.
Is it possible that Germany has a higher threshold in their tests (or uses a completely different test)? In other words, is it possible that there are a large number of people who would test positive in the US, but negative in Germany? (or Canada, or wherever)
Are other countries using the same tests & methodology as us?
I've long been suspicious of the US numbers compared to the rest of the world. It makes zero sense that our numbers are much higher than, say, Germany.
Is it possible that Germany has a higher threshold in their tests (or uses a completely different test)? In other words, is it possible that there are a large number of people who would test positive in the US, but negative in Germany? (or Canada, or wherever)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (cnTJD)
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My mom had knee surgery last Thursday and had to get a corona test before. At the hospital. Results are STILL pending but they went ahead with the surgery anyway so WHAT WAS THE POINT??
Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne
My neighbor tore his MCL and ACL last spring, falling off a ladder. The most his doctor could do at the time was put in a knee brace, because of the ban on "elective" procedures. I have no idea if he has ever had surgery to fix that.
Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne
My neighbor tore his MCL and ACL last spring, falling off a ladder. The most his doctor could do at the time was put in a knee brace, because of the ban on "elective" procedures. I have no idea if he has ever had surgery to fix that.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (vcOmj)
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Leftards, you are soooo fucked.....
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (o2MD2)
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According to the left, the 6% that died from Covid means it was a death sentence for the other 94% who ... would have lived but for catching it?
Look Fat, it's the logic, reason, I mean, Come on! What are we doing here?!
Look Fat, it's the logic, reason, I mean, Come on! What are we doing here?!
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (aO8Gd)
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So if reported cases go up or down it hurts Trump? Is that the take away from this propaganda piece?
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (gDgku)
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Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (9hauA)
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Please tell me this isn't real.
I make heavy use of Tableau at work and I'm leaving if I have to apply such things to a dashboard.
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Please tell me this isn't real.
I make heavy use of Tableau at work and I'm leaving if I have to apply such things to a dashboard.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (4k/Uz)
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Next slide has a pic of someone holding up a BLM sign at a protest.
I'm out. I have better things to do with my time.
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WHY DO YOU HATE AFRICAN AMERICANS?!!
I'm out. I have better things to do with my time.
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WHY DO YOU HATE AFRICAN AMERICANS?!!
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (HEs3d)
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Doesn't matter, hitheadgovernors everywhere plan to continue mask mandates and lockdowns well into 2021.
Posted by: Innagaddadavida at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (hpbeA)
Posted by: Viron Con Dios at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (d6DSt)
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They oughta just come out and say it.
"We want high virus rates and deaths so we can rig the election."
They oughta just come out and say it.
"We want high virus rates and deaths so we can rig the election."
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (rjE57)
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My beautiful, wonderful, 16-yo daughter is having something close to an existential crisis over the continued lockdown. I cannot express the depths of the hatred I feel for these people.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (2RY3s)
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Gonna make the same comment I did in the previous post. It's amazing to watch corporate media try to tell people things we can plainly see with our own two eyes are absolutely diametrically opposed to the message they're giving.
Suicide by "the sky is falling/not falling" syndrome.
Suicide by "the sky is falling/not falling" syndrome.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (hku12)
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Does anyone else here have to work with covidiots on a day-to-day basis? They're insane in my office. "Don't touch my keyboard" signs on people's desks. Rules about how many can use the ladies' room at one time. People working in separate offices who used to be next to each other at big work tables. "Get back!" heard frequently. Health self-assessments required before you start your shift.
Does anyone else here have to work with covidiots on a day-to-day basis? They're insane in my office. "Don't touch my keyboard" signs on people's desks. Rules about how many can use the ladies' room at one time. People working in separate offices who used to be next to each other at big work tables. "Get back!" heard frequently. Health self-assessments required before you start your shift.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (G51Gf)
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More and more, I think it was an Op from the get go ... they knew it was not so bad ... even if it was, the shutdown of everything was never how we dealt with pandemics. It was all just another #2weeks PsyOp, with intent from the beginning to shut our economy down ... maybe even early intent to get vote by mail.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (Cus5s)
Ehh, when Trump started taking it seriously, the Dems were still saying that it was nothing to worry about and restricting travel from China would be racist. They then slingshotted to the other extreme when they saw that wouldn't work.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (Cus5s)
Ehh, when Trump started taking it seriously, the Dems were still saying that it was nothing to worry about and restricting travel from China would be racist. They then slingshotted to the other extreme when they saw that wouldn't work.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (LZ7Gl)
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More and more, I think it was an Op from the get go ... they knew it was not so bad ... even if it was, the shutdown of everything was never how we dealt with pandemics. It was all just another #2weeks PsyOp, with intent from the beginning to shut our economy down ... maybe even early intent to get vote by mail.
Posted by: illiniwek
The PRC and CCP used social media (in this country) to promote the idea of the "lockdown".
Two weeks to flatten the curve. And yet, the lies continue to this day. The damage has been done, and it may be irreparable.
Posted by: illiniwek
The PRC and CCP used social media (in this country) to promote the idea of the "lockdown".
Two weeks to flatten the curve. And yet, the lies continue to this day. The damage has been done, and it may be irreparable.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM (pB6Gt)
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Nevermind.
Posted by: Emily Littella Birx at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM (w7U/e)
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Politico: Coronavirus Cases are Plunging
Bloomberg "news" had a story this morning that cases are spiking in new US hotspots as Americans let their guard down. The commies should get their stories straight.
Bloomberg "news" had a story this morning that cases are spiking in new US hotspots as Americans let their guard down. The commies should get their stories straight.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM (mpeBU)
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Seriously, some people are going to be so sad when the Corona is gone. ...
Posted by: garrett at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (3vFNy)
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They will get to hang on forever if they want to. This virus is in the population now. It will *never* be gone. It's a fact of life now. And that is where the state has to make a call about severity. Based on my reading of the data, the severity is not significant enough to justify extreme measures. The states of emergency and emergency regulations should all be suspended. But it's going to have to be subjective and possibly even arbitrary because the virus isn't gone and never will be.
And as a result, it becomes a catspaw in a power game. Which is why the situation is what it is. SARS-2 is a political tool and nothing more at this point.
Posted by: garrett at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (3vFNy)
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They will get to hang on forever if they want to. This virus is in the population now. It will *never* be gone. It's a fact of life now. And that is where the state has to make a call about severity. Based on my reading of the data, the severity is not significant enough to justify extreme measures. The states of emergency and emergency regulations should all be suspended. But it's going to have to be subjective and possibly even arbitrary because the virus isn't gone and never will be.
And as a result, it becomes a catspaw in a power game. Which is why the situation is what it is. SARS-2 is a political tool and nothing more at this point.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM (Q8c/L)
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dim polling is as follows
blaming the WuFlu on anyone other than the Chinks, Unfucking acceptable
Biden pledging another shutdown, Unfucking acceptable
blaming the WuFlu on anyone other than the Chinks, Unfucking acceptable
Biden pledging another shutdown, Unfucking acceptable
Posted by: REDACTED at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM (O+AcM)
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My mom had knee surgery last Thursday and had to get a corona test before. At the hospital. Results are STILL pending but they went ahead with the surgery anyway so WHAT WAS THE POINT??
Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne
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$13K for each positive hospitalized patient is the point. Thirteen thousand of them.
Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne
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$13K for each positive hospitalized patient is the point. Thirteen thousand of them.
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM (HEs3d)
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>>Are other countries using the same tests & methodology as us?
No.
Also, their numbers are lies too.
No.
Also, their numbers are lies too.
Posted by: garrett at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM (3vFNy)
Posted by: Muldoon at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM (m45I2)
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The University of Alabama has about 1300 reported WuHu cases. Zero hospitalizations. Zero.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM (sWM8x)
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One day Mayor deBlasio will awaken to find he is living "The Omega Man"
Posted by: SMOD at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM (3aI0K)
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Now all of a sudden the CDC has been coopted by Trump and not to be trusted, right?
A dear friend, who's smart but clueless, told me that.
Sigh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2020 01:07 PM (s2VJv)
At some stage you begin to realize that its all about Trump with certain folks, it was never about COVID, or racial equality, or the Russians, etc. These are all just flimsy excuses to rail against their real enemy, Trump.
A dear friend, who's smart but clueless, told me that.
Sigh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2020 01:07 PM (s2VJv)
At some stage you begin to realize that its all about Trump with certain folks, it was never about COVID, or racial equality, or the Russians, etc. These are all just flimsy excuses to rail against their real enemy, Trump.
Posted by: Boswell at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (w2LAm)
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I noticed more and more the Trump events and other things connected to his administration are showing people without masks.
I think this is his his subtle nudge that we can go back to normal. The left are calling him out on this, saying he is deceiving the public because all of these people without masks are tested first.
All they have to do is analyze their own screams.
I noticed more and more the Trump events and other things connected to his administration are showing people without masks.
I think this is his his subtle nudge that we can go back to normal. The left are calling him out on this, saying he is deceiving the public because all of these people without masks are tested first.
All they have to do is analyze their own screams.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (rjE57)
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I had a positive test result for the Sino Sinus Syphilis, even though I never had any symptoms. So I'm going to assume that I had a false positive.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (q86xC)
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You've all probaboy seen this article, but it is EXCELLENT:
https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/ essays-and-commentaries/covid -19-is-simply-not-life-threatening/
Short version:
We now know, for sure, that Covid-19 is a mild disease, no more serious than any other random flu, and that the lockdown and panic are PURPOSELESS. Totally and completely UNNECESSARY.
"COVID-19 is simply not life-threatening
In the past few days there have been a flurry of new reports proving once again that the panic over the Wuhan virus was completely unnecessary, that the disease was exactly what the initial data suggested, a variation on the flu that would be, like the flu, harmless to the healthy and young while dangerous to the elderly sick.
And like the flu, the Wuhan virus required no extreme measures. All we had to do was protect those elderly sick, and let everyone else continue living their lives normally.
First we have the revelation this weekend, from the CDC no less, that the number of people who died only from COVID-19, with no other health issues, was only about 6% of the total deaths assigned to the disease, or only about 9,700 people total, an infinitesimal percentage of the total population."
https://behindtheblack.com/behind-the-black/ essays-and-commentaries/covid -19-is-simply-not-life-threatening/
Short version:
We now know, for sure, that Covid-19 is a mild disease, no more serious than any other random flu, and that the lockdown and panic are PURPOSELESS. Totally and completely UNNECESSARY.
"COVID-19 is simply not life-threatening
In the past few days there have been a flurry of new reports proving once again that the panic over the Wuhan virus was completely unnecessary, that the disease was exactly what the initial data suggested, a variation on the flu that would be, like the flu, harmless to the healthy and young while dangerous to the elderly sick.
And like the flu, the Wuhan virus required no extreme measures. All we had to do was protect those elderly sick, and let everyone else continue living their lives normally.
First we have the revelation this weekend, from the CDC no less, that the number of people who died only from COVID-19, with no other health issues, was only about 6% of the total deaths assigned to the disease, or only about 9,700 people total, an infinitesimal percentage of the total population."
Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (HEEq1)
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52 "... it was two weeks to "flatten the curve" so hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed.
Everything from that point on has been a lie" yes, but "flatten the curve" was also a lie.
More and more, I think it was an Op from the get go ... they knew it was not so bad ... even if it was, the shutdown of everything was never how we dealt with pandemics. It was all just another #2weeks PsyOp, with intent from the beginning to shut our economy down ... maybe even early intent to get vote by mail.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (Cus5s)
I'm not quite that cynical, but I agree that NONE of this makes sense. And how "15 days to flatten the curve" (as you mention) was immediately memory holed, and all of the experts said "no, we didn't say that, we said we need to be in lockdown until a vaccine is developed." and its like "uhhh... no, NO ONE said we'd have to be locked down for months, and potentially years, or potentially forever, if no vaccine with high enough efficacy is ever found."
LIke not only did they change the goalposts multiple times, but they tried to gaslight everyone in to believing that they did not do so.
It's ... it is like a pys op.
Everything from that point on has been a lie" yes, but "flatten the curve" was also a lie.
More and more, I think it was an Op from the get go ... they knew it was not so bad ... even if it was, the shutdown of everything was never how we dealt with pandemics. It was all just another #2weeks PsyOp, with intent from the beginning to shut our economy down ... maybe even early intent to get vote by mail.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (Cus5s)
I'm not quite that cynical, but I agree that NONE of this makes sense. And how "15 days to flatten the curve" (as you mention) was immediately memory holed, and all of the experts said "no, we didn't say that, we said we need to be in lockdown until a vaccine is developed." and its like "uhhh... no, NO ONE said we'd have to be locked down for months, and potentially years, or potentially forever, if no vaccine with high enough efficacy is ever found."
LIke not only did they change the goalposts multiple times, but they tried to gaslight everyone in to believing that they did not do so.
It's ... it is like a pys op.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (cnTJD)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (Zz0t1)
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Ugh.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (9hauA)
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Which software company, if I may ask. I use software like that, and I hope it isn't the same (though I suspect it is).
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (9hauA)
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Which software company, if I may ask. I use software like that, and I hope it isn't the same (though I suspect it is).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (Q8c/L)
Posted by: Seems legit at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (jUVms)
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Georgia's cases are continuing to drop, in spite of Gov. Kemp not believing in "science."
And two publications just named Georgia the #1 state to do business in.
And two publications just named Georgia the #1 state to do business in.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (ptqGC)
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What they meant to say was that the Wuhan Flu dying out is bad for vote by mail.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (kA3Cp)
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My mom had knee surgery last Thursday and had to get a corona test before. At the hospital. Results are STILL pending but they went ahead with the surgery anyway so WHAT WAS THE POINT??
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My sister was telling me a similar story. Her husband had to get surgery and they both had to be tested. Never even got the results. At all. Surgery happened though.
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My sister was telling me a similar story. Her husband had to get surgery and they both had to be tested. Never even got the results. At all. Surgery happened though.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (vg8iE)
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Please tell me this isn't real.
I make heavy use of Tableau at work and I'm leaving if I have to apply such things to a dashboard.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (4k/Uz)
I wish I were imagining things. It's for JMP software. The series is called Statistically Speaking.
They want there to be no escape from this idiocy.
I make heavy use of Tableau at work and I'm leaving if I have to apply such things to a dashboard.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at September 02, 2020 01:12 PM (4k/Uz)
I wish I were imagining things. It's for JMP software. The series is called Statistically Speaking.
They want there to be no escape from this idiocy.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (9hauA)
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It's a war to the MSM. They have calculated how many unnecessary deaths of people and businesses they can accept in order to defeat the enemy Trump and us scum that support him
Posted by: Greg61 at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (FvHZ4)
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And get the machine that goes 'ping!'.
Posted by: SMOD at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (3aI0K)
Posted by: Brie Larson at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (h5TKJ)
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Doesn't top "Election-night landslide omens Trump defeat."
Posted by: Nicholas Kronos at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (vJCwr)
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Morons here today already have posted this, but it needs to be blasted everywhere: https://tinyurl.com/y23ptwba
It's a comedian satirizing the updated CDC numbers and how they terrorized us with them.
Also, teach your children and their children how the evil left was more than happy to use a virus as a weapon to destroy our nation. Never let this be forgotten and vote accordingly.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at September 02, 2020 01:06 PM (8/7u2)
WTF is that?
A ginger trying to transition? But from what to what??
It's a comedian satirizing the updated CDC numbers and how they terrorized us with them.
Also, teach your children and their children how the evil left was more than happy to use a virus as a weapon to destroy our nation. Never let this be forgotten and vote accordingly.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at September 02, 2020 01:06 PM (8/7u2)
WTF is that?
A ginger trying to transition? But from what to what??
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (hku12)
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the dims have a major problem with the riots
people in the suburbs hate violence and blame it on the left
if the left stops the riots, Trump will get the credit
people in the suburbs hate violence and blame it on the left
if the left stops the riots, Trump will get the credit
Posted by: REDACTED at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (O+AcM)
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There was also the quiet revision of CDC data to admit that 6% of Kung Flu seaths were actually due to the Kung Flu.
Posted by: pookysgirl, proven cynic at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (x0n8t)
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Wife showed me a video earlier of an Italian Dr. reading a letter that says for people to shun and refuse the upcoming vaccines for Covid as it will be part of the world effort to lessen the population and will kill people.
I can't discount it as a conspiracy theory........
I can't discount it as a conspiracy theory........
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)
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I actually talked with the first person I know who contracted it here in CA. He was confirmed 3/16 (the day Newsom shut us down) and sick for approx. 8 weeks (comorbidity) and his friend died (also comorbidity AIDS).
It's painfully obvious that yes, it sucks if you've got a comorbidity, or are an expert at turning 29. I think the elite like it better than a war, because there's a hell of a lot less work and money involved; while they can still force us to do things we wouldn't otherwise do. And you can't destroy such a broad spectrum of lives and businesses in war time, so bonus points. Thanks to the Karens, who are still in full freakout mode.
I'm tired of the masks, and tired of the scared sheep. I think a LOT of CA feels the same way. If not for the illegals and the mail-in vote fraud, I think we'd see CA flip red. I just hope that Newsom is tarred and feathered, we don't need an envelope for that.
It's painfully obvious that yes, it sucks if you've got a comorbidity, or are an expert at turning 29. I think the elite like it better than a war, because there's a hell of a lot less work and money involved; while they can still force us to do things we wouldn't otherwise do. And you can't destroy such a broad spectrum of lives and businesses in war time, so bonus points. Thanks to the Karens, who are still in full freakout mode.
I'm tired of the masks, and tired of the scared sheep. I think a LOT of CA feels the same way. If not for the illegals and the mail-in vote fraud, I think we'd see CA flip red. I just hope that Newsom is tarred and feathered, we don't need an envelope for that.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (8B6Ng)
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Meanwhile ... Sweden becomes a leader of the Free World.
Posted by: ShainS at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (ducEo)
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#Unmask
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (ifmtJ)
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You have the virus!
You have the virus!
...
Everybody, check under your seats -
YOU ALL HAVE THE VIRUS!
You have the virus!
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Everybody, check under your seats -
YOU ALL HAVE THE VIRUS!
Posted by: 'O' Brand CV-19 Tests made from Cauliflower at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (3vFNy)
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Seriously, some people are going to be so sad when the Corona is gone. ...
Posted by: garrett at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (3vFNy)
Who says it will be gone? Corona is now a government program. What government program has ever ended?
Posted by: garrett at September 02, 2020 01:10 PM (3vFNy)
Who says it will be gone? Corona is now a government program. What government program has ever ended?
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (H8QX8)
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My mom had knee surgery last Thursday and had to get a corona test
before. At the hospital. Results are STILL pending but they went ahead
with the surgery anyway so WHAT WAS THE POINT??
I have yet to be tested, but had to wear a face mask during my two hour ankle surgery.
before. At the hospital. Results are STILL pending but they went ahead
with the surgery anyway so WHAT WAS THE POINT??
I have yet to be tested, but had to wear a face mask during my two hour ankle surgery.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (ptqGC)
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the only silver lining in this virus is not having to see my inlaws
they're in the danger zone age
the only silver lining in this virus is not having to see my inlaws
they're in the danger zone age
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (rjE57)
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@36. Welcome, Lurking Peril.
Forgive us, we are kinda shy.
Forgive us, we are kinda shy.
Posted by: Case at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (6lsFB)
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We know this isn't serious now. How do we know that? Because we have actual preventatives that they won't allow us to take. We have politicians ignoring their own lockdown orders. We have large gatherings where there are very few positive tests (I think there were 65 after Sturgis). And other countries have opened up with no problems.
But how will they push that mandatory vaccine if they don't keep us locked down?
But how will they push that mandatory vaccine if they don't keep us locked down?
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:17 PM (JKNZq)
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I still can't get over DeBlasio saying they won't return to normal until June 2021, while I've been eating in restaurants since May.
My pet theory is that all of the institutions (including government) is believing and preparing for months of infections and deaths.
Then in October, suddenly everyone realizes that there are no more infections, the pandemic is over, but every event has been cancelled. Leading to a national WTF? moment.
I was picking up my taco tuesday order last night, without a mask as always. The good news is that the crowd has greatly increased, the bad news is everyone was wearing a mask. I didn't get any Karen's in my face, and honestly not even a double take. But sheesh people are buying into this mask bullshit.
My pet theory is that all of the institutions (including government) is believing and preparing for months of infections and deaths.
Then in October, suddenly everyone realizes that there are no more infections, the pandemic is over, but every event has been cancelled. Leading to a national WTF? moment.
I was picking up my taco tuesday order last night, without a mask as always. The good news is that the crowd has greatly increased, the bad news is everyone was wearing a mask. I didn't get any Karen's in my face, and honestly not even a double take. But sheesh people are buying into this mask bullshit.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 02, 2020 01:17 PM (5p7BC)
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Any guys available this afternoon, the wife's a bit lonely, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Jerry Falwell Jr. at September 02, 2020 01:17 PM (8k7U7)
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More and more, I think it was an Op from the get go ... they knew it was not so bad ... even if it was, the shutdown of everything was never how we dealt with pandemics. It was all just another #2weeks PsyOp, with intent from the beginning to shut our economy down ... maybe even early intent to get vote by mail.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (Cus5s)
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"CONFIRMED: China Launched a Massive Social Media Campaign in March to Get Countries to Adopt Stringent Coronavirus Lockdowns and Destroy Their Economies"
https://tinyurl.com/y4rdaemm
Read the link. It's sickening. All of it coordinated by China.
An act of war.
More and more, I think it was an Op from the get go ... they knew it was not so bad ... even if it was, the shutdown of everything was never how we dealt with pandemics. It was all just another #2weeks PsyOp, with intent from the beginning to shut our economy down ... maybe even early intent to get vote by mail.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (Cus5s)
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"CONFIRMED: China Launched a Massive Social Media Campaign in March to Get Countries to Adopt Stringent Coronavirus Lockdowns and Destroy Their Economies"
https://tinyurl.com/y4rdaemm
Read the link. It's sickening. All of it coordinated by China.
An act of war.
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020 01:17 PM (HEs3d)
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@JordanSchachtel 19m
9/2/20 update: Gettysburg College has announced that they are initiating an indefinite & "immediate all-student quarantine." This is not an isolated incident. Countless schools are moving forward w prison-like conditions for students who live on campus.
9/2/20 update: Gettysburg College has announced that they are initiating an indefinite & "immediate all-student quarantine." This is not an isolated incident. Countless schools are moving forward w prison-like conditions for students who live on campus.
Posted by: Tami at September 02, 2020 01:17 PM (cF8AT)
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BIL had to be tested for a trip to Alaska... Tested positive... he said try again... Two more tests... Negative....
Posted by: It's me donna at September 02, 2020 01:05 PM (Zmnko)
3 seems to be the magic number
Posted by: It's me donna at September 02, 2020 01:05 PM (Zmnko)
3 seems to be the magic number
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:17 PM (rjE57)
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One way or the other, this entire scam ends shortly after November 3rd.
Either Trump wins and he puts his foot up the ass of the Facuchi's and the Deep State and says enough or Biden wins and all the lockdowns and masks and other bullshit melts away as they would wan't to get the economy back to normal before the Biden administration moves in.
Either Trump wins and he puts his foot up the ass of the Facuchi's and the Deep State and says enough or Biden wins and all the lockdowns and masks and other bullshit melts away as they would wan't to get the economy back to normal before the Biden administration moves in.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 02, 2020 01:17 PM (OyBX/)
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I've long been suspicious of the US numbers compared to the rest of the world. It makes zero sense that our numbers are much higher than, say, Germany.
Is it possible that Germany has a higher threshold in their tests (or uses a completely different test)? In other words, is it possible that there are a large number of people who would test positive in the US, but negative in Germany? (or Canada, or wherever)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (cnTJD)
I don't have a hard data source to show you, but I believe the US is the only nation in the world that can afford to do a huge number of tests on asymptomatic people. Combine that with our high population, and and our raw case number (which has nothing to do with symptoms) is guaranteed to be much, much higher than anyone else's.
Is it possible that Germany has a higher threshold in their tests (or uses a completely different test)? In other words, is it possible that there are a large number of people who would test positive in the US, but negative in Germany? (or Canada, or wherever)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (cnTJD)
I don't have a hard data source to show you, but I believe the US is the only nation in the world that can afford to do a huge number of tests on asymptomatic people. Combine that with our high population, and and our raw case number (which has nothing to do with symptoms) is guaranteed to be much, much higher than anyone else's.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM (Kpl3J)
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I had a positive test result for the Sino Sinus Syphilis, even though I never had any symptoms. So I'm going to assume that I had a false positive.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (q86xC)
I would like to test positive. I want a ticket to be able to say "I had it, and now I'm fine!"
No need to quarantine, no need to avoid getting on a plane or booking a hotel room or visiting elderly family members.
I had the virus, and now I'm cured. Let's get on with living now.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM (q86xC)
I would like to test positive. I want a ticket to be able to say "I had it, and now I'm fine!"
No need to quarantine, no need to avoid getting on a plane or booking a hotel room or visiting elderly family members.
I had the virus, and now I'm cured. Let's get on with living now.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM (hku12)
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Are other countries using the same tests & methodology as us?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (cnTJD)
I'm skeptical that the states are using the same methodology. I'm not even sure that the private labs contracted by a state are using the same methodology. This is what happens when you have no transparency in the process.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (cnTJD)
I'm skeptical that the states are using the same methodology. I'm not even sure that the private labs contracted by a state are using the same methodology. This is what happens when you have no transparency in the process.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM (K453c)
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More and more, I think it was an Op from the get go ... they knew it was not so bad ... even if it was, the shutdown of everything was never how we dealt with pandemics. It was all just another #2weeks PsyOp, with intent from the beginning to shut our economy down ... maybe even early intent to get vote by mail.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (Cus5s)
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I am not sure I agree on that. At the beginning - when it was a new potential superbug of unknown provenance from China and from a the vicinity of a biowarfare lab - I think there was a lot of panic, especially given China's extremely draconian response in the Wuhan region.
I view the first month of the 'Rona response as, in retrospect, one of the greatest policy errors of my lifetime. But I do think the initial phases were an error. Every second since then has not been an error - it's been coordinated terrorism against the American people. The moment it became clear that the real underlying systemic risk - that is, overwhelming the medical system - did not exist, this should have been ended. That was by Easter or perhaps a little bit (maybe a week) after. Everything since that time has been an op.
But I doubt it from the start. I think they capitalized hard.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (Cus5s)
++++++++++++++
I am not sure I agree on that. At the beginning - when it was a new potential superbug of unknown provenance from China and from a the vicinity of a biowarfare lab - I think there was a lot of panic, especially given China's extremely draconian response in the Wuhan region.
I view the first month of the 'Rona response as, in retrospect, one of the greatest policy errors of my lifetime. But I do think the initial phases were an error. Every second since then has not been an error - it's been coordinated terrorism against the American people. The moment it became clear that the real underlying systemic risk - that is, overwhelming the medical system - did not exist, this should have been ended. That was by Easter or perhaps a little bit (maybe a week) after. Everything since that time has been an op.
But I doubt it from the start. I think they capitalized hard.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM (Q8c/L)
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This fucking thing ends if you just stand aside and let it happen. Sweden did that and they're down to just 14 people in the ICU and averaging 15 positive cases per million people. Closing businesses and masks and measures to "stop the spread" are just superstitions and have no real impact on the outcome.
Posted by: Serious Cat at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM (700n7)
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111 Any guys available this afternoon, the wife's a bit lonely, if you know what I mean.
Posted by: Jerry Falwell Jr. at September 02, 2020 01:17 PM (8k7U7)
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No way man. Last time I visited you made me clean the pool first.
Posted by: Jerry Falwell Jr. at September 02, 2020 01:17 PM (8k7U7)
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No way man. Last time I visited you made me clean the pool first.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM (4k/Uz)
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the only silver lining in this virus is not having to see my inlaws
they're in the danger zone age
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (rjE57)
Lol! I feel ya.
they're in the danger zone age
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (rjE57)
Lol! I feel ya.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (ptqGC)
123
83 I had a positive test result for the Sino Sinus Syphilis, even though I never had any symptoms. So I'm going to assume that I had a false positive.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home
No, read this:
The tests (we now know) are overly hyper-sensitive, and they detect even the slightest fragment of a dead virus. Which means you probably caught it last October, ha no symptoms, because you are healthy, and then recovered. OR, just as likely, you long ago caught the flu, and the immune response for that flu overlapped with the Covid-19 immune response.
So your test almost certainly wasn't a " false positive" - -it accurately revealed that you long ago had a mild viral infection that you didn't even notice.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home
No, read this:
The tests (we now know) are overly hyper-sensitive, and they detect even the slightest fragment of a dead virus. Which means you probably caught it last October, ha no symptoms, because you are healthy, and then recovered. OR, just as likely, you long ago caught the flu, and the immune response for that flu overlapped with the Covid-19 immune response.
So your test almost certainly wasn't a " false positive" - -it accurately revealed that you long ago had a mild viral infection that you didn't even notice.
Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (HEEq1)
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>>that doesn't mean the pandemic is over, even if Trump and his team portray it that way.
You have to admit, his team certainly does. Fauci yesterday saying Americans had better be good over Labor Day and not produce another SPIKE like happened after Memorial Day and 4th of July.
>>that doesn't mean the pandemic is over, even if Trump and his team portray it that way.
You have to admit, his team certainly does. Fauci yesterday saying Americans had better be good over Labor Day and not produce another SPIKE like happened after Memorial Day and 4th of July.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (G51Gf)
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I can't discount it as a conspiracy theory........
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)
People will be lining up for that faster than the punch bowl in Jonestown.
If it were voluntary, we'd get rid of all the clowns. But they're going to insist everybody gets it, under pain of penalty. If I have to go live in the fucking woods, I'll do it.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 02, 2020 01:15 PM (Zz0t1)
People will be lining up for that faster than the punch bowl in Jonestown.
If it were voluntary, we'd get rid of all the clowns. But they're going to insist everybody gets it, under pain of penalty. If I have to go live in the fucking woods, I'll do it.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (8B6Ng)
126
I taught my 6 y-o to sing "kabuki, kabuki" to the tune of Buddy Hackett's "Shabupy" every time she puts her mask on at the bx. Why yes, we do get some strange looks
Posted by: Euro at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (rU80z)
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Evil motherfuckers, these Dems.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2020 01:08 PM (s2VJv)
This.
Hard to find a more true statement, anywhere.
Evil motherfuckers, these Dems.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 02, 2020 01:08 PM (s2VJv)
This.
Hard to find a more true statement, anywhere.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (Zz0t1)
128
Recently had a literary agent request a manuscript for something I've been working on that's set in British Hong Kong and has ChiCom villains.
She concluded that she liked it, but the humor and themes wouldn't be well received in today's market. She's probably right because today's market is primarily about wokeness and diversity.
She concluded that she liked it, but the humor and themes wouldn't be well received in today's market. She's probably right because today's market is primarily about wokeness and diversity.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (LZ7Gl)
129
One way or the other, this entire scam ends shortly after November 3rd.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 02, 2020 01:17 PM
(OyBX/)
I'd like to believe that. But Trump has really bought into it.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 02, 2020 01:17 PM
(OyBX/)
I'd like to believe that. But Trump has really bought into it.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (o2MD2)
131
Herd immunity at 2% positive cases per population. 67% to reach suppression for a virus with R3, then data shows 50% of population may not even be susceptible. Then, estimates of 10 asymptomatic cases for every symptomatic case. 67% - 50% = 17%, 10% of 17% is 1.7% or about 2%.
NOT the 67% being trumpeted by the media. New Trump advisor wants 2.3 million dead to reach herd suppression!!!!!! Nope. 2%.
NOT the 67% being trumpeted by the media. New Trump advisor wants 2.3 million dead to reach herd suppression!!!!!! Nope. 2%.
Posted by: Innagaddadavida at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (hpbeA)
132
Joy Reid says that Trump supporters are violent like muslims.
That is pretty amazing considering the media has spent the last 20 years telling America that muzzies are not violent.
The thrashing of the wounded animal called the left is getting ludicrous.
That is pretty amazing considering the media has spent the last 20 years telling America that muzzies are not violent.
The thrashing of the wounded animal called the left is getting ludicrous.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (pw+jk)
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They just don't even care about appearing, perhaps if you squint, and use blurry glasses, objective anymore.
They are Reichsministerium fur Volksaufklarung und Propaganda, and damn proud of it.
They are Reichsministerium fur Volksaufklarung und Propaganda, and damn proud of it.
Posted by: mikethemoose at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (Y6UV7)
134
It's everywhere!
@IngrahamAngle
Now the woke sports media are complaining about the Kentucky Derby:
https://tinyurl.com/y3vubeup
@IngrahamAngle
Now the woke sports media are complaining about the Kentucky Derby:
https://tinyurl.com/y3vubeup
Posted by: Tami at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (cF8AT)
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My company is still acting like this is a deathly epidemic that will kill millions, but I think it's more political than anything else. CEO refuses to enforce face mask "guidelines," won't require a vaccine to come to work, and in general is looking at this as a way to optimize remote work arrangements.
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Mine is doing the same, except they believe it. Now the flu shot is mandatory or your ass is fired. I can't wait until a vaccine comes for this shit. They'll make us take it too. That will be my hill to die on.
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Mine is doing the same, except they believe it. Now the flu shot is mandatory or your ass is fired. I can't wait until a vaccine comes for this shit. They'll make us take it too. That will be my hill to die on.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (vg8iE)
136
Where are all the sick people?
Posted by: Where are all the sick people at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (UakdN)
elderly and pre-conditioned with a serious illness
Trump has personally experienced losing more than one good friend from this, and he seemed shocked. It happened so quickly.
I have yet to know anyone that had it.
Posted by: Where are all the sick people at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (UakdN)
elderly and pre-conditioned with a serious illness
Trump has personally experienced losing more than one good friend from this, and he seemed shocked. It happened so quickly.
I have yet to know anyone that had it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (rjE57)
137
Trump EO canceling the $13K payment per positive test - immediately, numbers drop off.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (kA3Cp)
138
6 Remember, it was two weeks to "flatten the curve" so hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed.
Everything from that point on has been a lie
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2020 01:02 PM (aO8Gd)
__________
I knew it was a lie on Day One and designed as a psychological and economy-destroying disinformation op to take out Trump when the disinformation operatives in the media called it the "Trump virus."
Everything from that point on has been a lie
Posted by: RoyalOil at September 02, 2020 01:02 PM (aO8Gd)
__________
I knew it was a lie on Day One and designed as a psychological and economy-destroying disinformation op to take out Trump when the disinformation operatives in the media called it the "Trump virus."
Posted by: ShainS at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (ducEo)
139
@129
Not really, he's largely been boxed in by probably one of the better ops the Deep State has ever conceived.
After his election is secured, this shit will end the next day.
Not really, he's largely been boxed in by probably one of the better ops the Deep State has ever conceived.
After his election is secured, this shit will end the next day.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 02, 2020 01:21 PM (OyBX/)
140
It's everywhere!
@IngrahamAngle
Now the woke sports media are complaining about the Kentucky Derby:
https://tinyurl.com/y3vubeup
Posted by: Tami at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (cF8AT)
oh man
ONE SPORT needs to give them the big FU. Then we can all congregate there.
@IngrahamAngle
Now the woke sports media are complaining about the Kentucky Derby:
https://tinyurl.com/y3vubeup
Posted by: Tami at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (cF8AT)
oh man
ONE SPORT needs to give them the big FU. Then we can all congregate there.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:21 PM (rjE57)
141
6 Remember, it was two weeks to "flatten the curve" so hospitals wouldn't be overwhelmed.
Everything from that point on has been a lie
Posted by: RoyalOil
Bingo.
Everything from that point on has been a lie
Posted by: RoyalOil
Bingo.
Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2020 01:21 PM (HEEq1)
142
Unfortunately, Trump is part of the lockdown/mask problem. He let his fear of germs infect the nation.
Posted by: Justsayin' at September 02, 2020 01:21 PM (Fs5vw)
143
I still can't grasp how all you people living in places that shut down are coping. Our State never shut down and we made our own decisions. South Dakota used a novel approach. It's called freedom. The other 49 States should look into it. It has promise.
Posted by: Archer at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (gmo/4)
144
104 You have the virus!
You have the virus!
...
Everybody, check under your seats -
YOU ALL HAVE THE VIRUS!
Posted by: 'O' Brand CV-19 Tests made from Cauliflower at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (3vFNy)
LOL
I have yet to be tested, but had to wear a face mask during my two hour ankle surgery.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (ptqGC)
Ugh.. I think she did too but at least they pump more oxygen into the room bc of the masks, yes? I read that somewhere.
You have the virus!
...
Everybody, check under your seats -
YOU ALL HAVE THE VIRUS!
Posted by: 'O' Brand CV-19 Tests made from Cauliflower at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (3vFNy)
LOL
I have yet to be tested, but had to wear a face mask during my two hour ankle surgery.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM (ptqGC)
Ugh.. I think she did too but at least they pump more oxygen into the room bc of the masks, yes? I read that somewhere.
Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (xU7mE)
145
"Ehh, when Trump started taking it seriously, the Dems were still saying
that it was nothing to worry about and restricting travel from China
would be racist."
But IF it was a PsyOp from the start, they needed the early weeks to spread it ... keep normal routines, keep subways running, go hug a Chinaman ... once it was spread, THEN was the time for OMG Shut It Down ...
that it was nothing to worry about and restricting travel from China
would be racist."
But IF it was a PsyOp from the start, they needed the early weeks to spread it ... keep normal routines, keep subways running, go hug a Chinaman ... once it was spread, THEN was the time for OMG Shut It Down ...
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (Cus5s)
146
You should see the way they are spinning the reduced Covid death numbers since the CDC reduced them from 150,000 to 10,000.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (LImvu)
147
Covid is over. It ended on April 1, if not sooner. Everything after April 1 fooled us.
Posted by: Al Unsure at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (Jib4S)
148
If in 2018 an 80 year old had the seasonal flu and say, lung cancer, and they died of pneumonia - did we could that death as flu, cancer, or pneumonia?
Because I'm pretty sure right now in the same situation but with Wuhan Flu we count the death as Wuhan Flu.
Which would mean Wuhan Flu is NOT any more dangerous then seasonal flu and might in fact be significantly less so.
If the "real death tool" is only 18K more people died of seasonal flu last year!!!!
Because I'm pretty sure right now in the same situation but with Wuhan Flu we count the death as Wuhan Flu.
Which would mean Wuhan Flu is NOT any more dangerous then seasonal flu and might in fact be significantly less so.
If the "real death tool" is only 18K more people died of seasonal flu last year!!!!
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (qlFIA)
149
I just signed on to see if I could screen cap the title slide (I wish I did) and caught a few sentences on him scolding the world for listing white as the first race in analysis and grouping non-whites together.
Dude, it's because in Western countries most people participating in studies are white and there are not enough people in other racial categories to treat them as separate categories in analysis. It's not a conspiracy.
If there are enough blacks, Asians, etc, they will be treated as their own category. What the hell.
Dude, it's because in Western countries most people participating in studies are white and there are not enough people in other racial categories to treat them as separate categories in analysis. It's not a conspiracy.
If there are enough blacks, Asians, etc, they will be treated as their own category. What the hell.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (9hauA)
150
Everything is bad for Trump. Because Trump.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Augustine at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (Alp4m)
152
The only reason I will wear a mask is if someone is sick around me before and after my twice yearly infusions. Fuck em.
I find I'm saying fuck em a lot .
I find I'm saying fuck em a lot .
Posted by: mpfs, I choose the light, I choose Trump! at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (exwtQ)
153
143 I still can't grasp how all you people living in places that shut down are coping. Our State never shut down and we made our own decisions. South Dakota used a novel approach. It's called freedom. The other 49 States should look into it. It has promise.
Posted by: Archer at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (gmo/4)
Not all of us can have hot governors.
Posted by: Archer at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (gmo/4)
Not all of us can have hot governors.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (1ISKN)
154
Our church sanctuary will be open for worship for the first time since March this Sunday.
We had to demand it. Most of the elders aren't even here, they fled the heat and headed back up north for the summer. Our lefty pastor is leaving for VA (yay! sorry, VA) and we're hopefully going to get one who won't (I swear this actually happened) quote DAVID FRENCH from the pulpit. I've been grinding my teeth to a pulp for ages.
Of course, we have to wear masks and socially distance, and there will be no communion. But it's a start.
We had to demand it. Most of the elders aren't even here, they fled the heat and headed back up north for the summer. Our lefty pastor is leaving for VA (yay! sorry, VA) and we're hopefully going to get one who won't (I swear this actually happened) quote DAVID FRENCH from the pulpit. I've been grinding my teeth to a pulp for ages.
Of course, we have to wear masks and socially distance, and there will be no communion. But it's a start.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (ptqGC)
155
There is much to be said for a much, much lower herd immunity rate. The Herd Immunity Threshold (HIT) rate is around 16% because we have all had the common cold which chinese covid is.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (bDqIh)
157
At some stage you begin to realize that its all about Trump with certain folks, it was never about COVID, or racial equality, or the Russians, etc. These are all just flimsy excuses to rail against their real enemy, Trump.
Posted by: Boswell at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM
Honest question: what do you say to people who then cry, "But Trump's not President all over the rest of the world! Are you saying this virus a only a hoax in America? Why would the rest of the world lie about it, too?!"
I know the answer, but what's a succinct rebuttal look like?
Because I get these questions a lot.
Posted by: Boswell at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM
Honest question: what do you say to people who then cry, "But Trump's not President all over the rest of the world! Are you saying this virus a only a hoax in America? Why would the rest of the world lie about it, too?!"
I know the answer, but what's a succinct rebuttal look like?
Because I get these questions a lot.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (j3jZX)
158
We've been over the covid hysteria in my workplace since mid April.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (Ado0C)
159
139 @129
Not really, he's largely been boxed in by probably one of the better ops the Deep State has ever conceived.
After his election is secured, this shit will end the next day.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 02, 2020 01:21 PM (OyBX/)
I agree with you there. I don't approve of every move Trump's made, but he got boxed in quite effectively. What he did was manage to hang on until this thing finally has started to blow over.
There are always times when one has to beat a strategic retreat to survive.
Not really, he's largely been boxed in by probably one of the better ops the Deep State has ever conceived.
After his election is secured, this shit will end the next day.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 02, 2020 01:21 PM (OyBX/)
I agree with you there. I don't approve of every move Trump's made, but he got boxed in quite effectively. What he did was manage to hang on until this thing finally has started to blow over.
There are always times when one has to beat a strategic retreat to survive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (Kpl3J)
160
Everyone will be shocked - but the pristine scientific and epidemiological illiteracy of ALL of this (including the framework the WH continues to explicitly or implicitly adopt) is ridiculous.
The UW "modeling" is, like AGW modeling, nothing but random number generation. And their "forecasts" have been off by 100s or 1,000s of %. It's beyond absurd that they are mentioned OTHER than to mock them and illustrate how wrong their model is.
Cases are plunging because THAT'S WHAT VIRAL EPIDEMICS LIKE THIS DO, PERIOD. Which is well known, partly understood (perhaps), and completely independent of human "policies". Gompertz function, live, learn it, love it.
And while Trump's championing of ventilator production was - at least for a while - an understandable error based on early, flawed approaches to treatment for a new bug - his continued championing of a "vaccine" is really not excusable.
A vaccine (unlikely to be effective) *might* be relevant for the tiny slice of the population that is at serious risk from C19. For all healthy people under 50, or even 60, it's irrelevant. For the normal operation of almost all of society - it's irrelevant.
And the foundation for virtually limitless vandalism of the country and culture, based on utterly fake "science" and a discarding of all actual epidemiology, has now been laid. If a bad conventional influenza bug happens to come along this next season, there is no limit to the damage that could be done by stupid public policy.
The UW "modeling" is, like AGW modeling, nothing but random number generation. And their "forecasts" have been off by 100s or 1,000s of %. It's beyond absurd that they are mentioned OTHER than to mock them and illustrate how wrong their model is.
Cases are plunging because THAT'S WHAT VIRAL EPIDEMICS LIKE THIS DO, PERIOD. Which is well known, partly understood (perhaps), and completely independent of human "policies". Gompertz function, live, learn it, love it.
And while Trump's championing of ventilator production was - at least for a while - an understandable error based on early, flawed approaches to treatment for a new bug - his continued championing of a "vaccine" is really not excusable.
A vaccine (unlikely to be effective) *might* be relevant for the tiny slice of the population that is at serious risk from C19. For all healthy people under 50, or even 60, it's irrelevant. For the normal operation of almost all of society - it's irrelevant.
And the foundation for virtually limitless vandalism of the country and culture, based on utterly fake "science" and a discarding of all actual epidemiology, has now been laid. If a bad conventional influenza bug happens to come along this next season, there is no limit to the damage that could be done by stupid public policy.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (OTzUX)
161
"We'd like to complete the Manhattan Project and the creation of the first atomic bomb, Mr. President, but CASES ARE UP AND ZOMG ELEVENTY WE HAVE TO LOCKDOWN"
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (5bg3W)
162
10 BIL had to be tested for a trip to Alaska... Tested positive... he said try again... Two more tests... Negative....
Posted by: It's me donna
That still counts as a positive case.
Posted by: It's me donna
That still counts as a positive case.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (kfcYC)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (rjE57)
164
Honest question: what do you say to people who then cry, "But Trump's not President all over the rest of the world! Are you saying this virus a only a hoax in America? Why would the rest of the world lie about it, too?!"
I'd love a response to this also, because this is my NTer husband's main argument against me!
I'd love a response to this also, because this is my NTer husband's main argument against me!
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (j9HX3)
165
Covid is so contagious that they have to swab your brain's frontal lobe to check to see if it's present in your saliva.
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (HEs3d)
166
if Saudi Arabia next month announces that it will establish some level of diplomatic relations with Israel, Ben Rhodes (if not the Great John Kerry himseld) will call this a failure because we have not included Iran in the negotiations.
All Rhodes lead to failure
All Rhodes lead to failure
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (4a9Vv)
167
All of their plots and schemes are being frustrated - Covid is failing, the riots are backfiring, calls to defund the police are hugely unpopular. As these last few weeks go on I expect to see more than one talking head have an on-air psychotic break and start screaming about the end times.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Convention Specials! Scalp Weasel Grooming Products 25% at The Outrage Outlet! at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (1KKDF)
168
An infection rate below 1%, a death rate around 2% of that 1%.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 02, 2020 01:25 PM (oVJmc)
169
Honest question: what do you say to people who then cry, "But Trump's not President all over the rest of the world! Are you saying this virus a only a hoax in America? Why would the rest of the world lie about it, too?!"
I know the answer, but what's a succinct rebuttal look like?
Because I get these questions a lot.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (j3jZX)
The rest of the world is over it already, aren't they? Mexico never did jackshit about it, and they're just fine. No millions of bodies stacked up.
I know the answer, but what's a succinct rebuttal look like?
Because I get these questions a lot.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (j3jZX)
The rest of the world is over it already, aren't they? Mexico never did jackshit about it, and they're just fine. No millions of bodies stacked up.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 02, 2020 01:25 PM (Kpl3J)
170
No, read this:
The tests (we now know) are overly hyper-sensitive, and they detect even the slightest fragment of a dead virus. Which means you probably caught it last October, ha no symptoms, because you are healthy, and then recovered. OR, just as likely, you long ago caught the flu, and the immune response for that flu overlapped with the Covid-19 immune response.
So your test almost certainly wasn't a " false positive" - -it accurately revealed that you long ago had a mild viral infection that you didn't even notice.
Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (HEEq1)
So much bad information out there, it's really rather simple. Tests for the virus aren't actually looking for the virus, like it's a flashlight that gets turned on and sees it or not. No, the test find chemical markers that SHOULD be unique to this virus, attach to those markers, then amplify them so they show up on the test.
So... if there's other stuff out there with similar enough chemical markers, bingo! You get a positive test!
Or if one is doing antibody testing (which I don't think they are doing routinely for Covid?), it's the opposite. You're looking for the specific markers on the antibodies that will bind with the testing agents.
So... in the end, a positive test is just not that reliable. It's not going to be until they refine the tests and/or create multiple testing layers to look for different elements that give evidence of the virus.
Which I believe NOBODY is doing right now.
The tests (we now know) are overly hyper-sensitive, and they detect even the slightest fragment of a dead virus. Which means you probably caught it last October, ha no symptoms, because you are healthy, and then recovered. OR, just as likely, you long ago caught the flu, and the immune response for that flu overlapped with the Covid-19 immune response.
So your test almost certainly wasn't a " false positive" - -it accurately revealed that you long ago had a mild viral infection that you didn't even notice.
Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (HEEq1)
So much bad information out there, it's really rather simple. Tests for the virus aren't actually looking for the virus, like it's a flashlight that gets turned on and sees it or not. No, the test find chemical markers that SHOULD be unique to this virus, attach to those markers, then amplify them so they show up on the test.
So... if there's other stuff out there with similar enough chemical markers, bingo! You get a positive test!
Or if one is doing antibody testing (which I don't think they are doing routinely for Covid?), it's the opposite. You're looking for the specific markers on the antibodies that will bind with the testing agents.
So... in the end, a positive test is just not that reliable. It's not going to be until they refine the tests and/or create multiple testing layers to look for different elements that give evidence of the virus.
Which I believe NOBODY is doing right now.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:25 PM (hku12)
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Health self-assessments required before you start your shift.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 02, 2020
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My employer keeps texting me this daily "self-check." After answering "No" to all the symptom questions the first time, I've been deleting the texts. I've considered marking them as spam, but other, actually useful alerts (like "We're closed for tomorrow's hurricane") may come from the same source.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 02, 2020
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My employer keeps texting me this daily "self-check." After answering "No" to all the symptom questions the first time, I've been deleting the texts. I've considered marking them as spam, but other, actually useful alerts (like "We're closed for tomorrow's hurricane") may come from the same source.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:25 PM (Ejm1K)
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Unfortunately, Trump is part of the lockdown/mask problem. He let his fear of germs infect the nation.
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No, I think he and other leaders saw this as a bioweapon at first.
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No, I think he and other leaders saw this as a bioweapon at first.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:25 PM (kA3Cp)
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Honest question: what do you say to people who then cry, "But Trump's not President all over the rest of the world! Are you saying this virus a only a hoax in America? Why would the rest of the world lie about it, too?!"
I know the answer, but what's a succinct rebuttal look like?
Because I get these questions a lot.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (j3jZX)
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Every major government in the world suffers the same flaw. They all are both power-hungry and arrogant. They never want to admit a mistake, or to admit that they got rooked by a bad actor. As a result, any step they take was the right step and it cannot be disavowed. When those steps they took were *also* conducive to keeping the populace cowed and compliant, so much the better.
Whether it was a true op coordinated by China or not, arrogant power-trippers will ensure similar outcomes in various locales.
I know the answer, but what's a succinct rebuttal look like?
Because I get these questions a lot.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (j3jZX)
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Every major government in the world suffers the same flaw. They all are both power-hungry and arrogant. They never want to admit a mistake, or to admit that they got rooked by a bad actor. As a result, any step they take was the right step and it cannot be disavowed. When those steps they took were *also* conducive to keeping the populace cowed and compliant, so much the better.
Whether it was a true op coordinated by China or not, arrogant power-trippers will ensure similar outcomes in various locales.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 02, 2020 01:26 PM (Q8c/L)
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Well if there's a model, prediction, or theory from authority figures, then I'm certain it's well-conceived, properly peer-reviewed, and fully consistent with the most stringent of critical analysis. So I'm sure this is all very reassuring and trustworthy.
Now, when you bust my balls, would you like them placed on the left, the right, or just flat on the anvil?
Now, when you bust my balls, would you like them placed on the left, the right, or just flat on the anvil?
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at September 02, 2020 01:26 PM (HhXSr)
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Trump's not President of the world, but he helped trigger a lot of anti-globalization movements throughout the world. That's what upset them. And there are huge anti-Covid restriction protests going on world-wide that the media won't cover.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:26 PM (JKNZq)
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I have yet to know anyone that had it.
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One of my coworkers families had it - it spread through the whole family.
Dad, kids, grandparents got it. Dad got it the worst = minor flu.
Mother didn't get it at all (or it was asymptomatic)
Some people in my grandfather's nursing home got it, and some did die. They all had other conditions as well.
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One of my coworkers families had it - it spread through the whole family.
Dad, kids, grandparents got it. Dad got it the worst = minor flu.
Mother didn't get it at all (or it was asymptomatic)
Some people in my grandfather's nursing home got it, and some did die. They all had other conditions as well.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:26 PM (qlFIA)
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As bioweapons go, Covid 19 is pretty pussyesque.
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 02, 2020 01:26 PM (o2MD2)
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Honest question: what do you say to people who then cry, "But Trump's not President all over the rest of the world! Are you saying this virus a only a hoax in America? Why would the rest of the world lie about it, too?!"
China, where this was developed and released, is having pool parties. In Wuhan.
They're not shutting down. Everyone else is taking advantage of the fear and stealing more liberties.
It's ALL political. Period. It's about power.
China, where this was developed and released, is having pool parties. In Wuhan.
They're not shutting down. Everyone else is taking advantage of the fear and stealing more liberties.
It's ALL political. Period. It's about power.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 02, 2020 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 02, 2020 01:26 PM (+y/Ru)
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After his election is secured, this shit will end the next day.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 02, 2020 01:21 PM (OyBX/)
I wouldn't be placing any bets on that. I think the damage to the American psyche is pretty much complete concerning how we prevent all seasonal illnesses.
After his election is secured, this shit will end the next day.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 02, 2020 01:21 PM (OyBX/)
I wouldn't be placing any bets on that. I think the damage to the American psyche is pretty much complete concerning how we prevent all seasonal illnesses.
Posted by: Justsayin' at September 02, 2020 01:26 PM (Fs5vw)
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But muh cases!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:26 PM (dNzKv)
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118 Are other countries using the same tests & methodology as us?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (cnTJD)
I'm skeptical that the states are using the same methodology. I'm not even sure that the private labs contracted by a state are using the same methodology. This is what happens when you have no transparency in the process.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM (K453c)
I'm skeptical about how almost every fucking state has the same pattern of weekend lows and a big spike on Tuesday or Wednesday. Without fail.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:11 PM (cnTJD)
I'm skeptical that the states are using the same methodology. I'm not even sure that the private labs contracted by a state are using the same methodology. This is what happens when you have no transparency in the process.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM (K453c)
I'm skeptical about how almost every fucking state has the same pattern of weekend lows and a big spike on Tuesday or Wednesday. Without fail.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (CzsKO)
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DeBlasio is talking about maybe loosening things up by Spring....
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (HwiWi)
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168 An infection rate below 1%, a death rate around 2% of that 1%.
And of that 2% of 1%, 94% have contributing factors as cause of death.
And of that 2% of 1%, 94% have contributing factors as cause of death.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (oVJmc)
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Meanwhile ... Sweden becomes a leader of the Free World.
Posted by: ShainS at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM
Sweden didn't lock down for one reason only: they cannot and will not tell their burgeoning Muslim population what to do, ever, under any circumstance.
Posted by: ShainS at September 02, 2020 01:16 PM
Sweden didn't lock down for one reason only: they cannot and will not tell their burgeoning Muslim population what to do, ever, under any circumstance.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (j3jZX)
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Unfortunately, Trump is part of the lockdown/mask problem. He let his fear of germs infect the nation.
Posted by: Justsayin' at September 02, 2020 01:21 PM (Fs5vw)
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Bullshit!
Even after doing everything the "scientists" said to do, he still gets the blame for what the donkey governors did. 50%+ of all the fake chinese covid deaths are in 5 democrat run states..
It was politically expedient to do what Trump did. Although at first I'm sure he was genuinely concerned that the ccp had launched a biological attack. He pushed for reopening hard but the donkey governors refused it. The media refused and they were all wrong.
Posted by: Justsayin' at September 02, 2020 01:21 PM (Fs5vw)
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Bullshit!
Even after doing everything the "scientists" said to do, he still gets the blame for what the donkey governors did. 50%+ of all the fake chinese covid deaths are in 5 democrat run states..
It was politically expedient to do what Trump did. Although at first I'm sure he was genuinely concerned that the ccp had launched a biological attack. He pushed for reopening hard but the donkey governors refused it. The media refused and they were all wrong.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (pw+jk)
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No, see, we have to be locked down until we have more testing (which is unrealiable) and a vaccine (which might not work due to COVID strains mutating).
Swearsies, right then, right there, 100% freedom again. We promise.
Swearsies, right then, right there, 100% freedom again. We promise.
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (icI8A)
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Covid is so contagious that they have to swab your brain's frontal lobe to check to see if it's present in your saliva.
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020
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When I had to be tested so I could go back to work, they had me swab up there. I told people, though, that "They stuck about six inches of Q-Tip up into my brain and swirled it around in there. I think some of my memories of grade school are gone."
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020
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When I had to be tested so I could go back to work, they had me swab up there. I told people, though, that "They stuck about six inches of Q-Tip up into my brain and swirled it around in there. I think some of my memories of grade school are gone."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (Ejm1K)
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A vaccine will shut the Faucis up. His ilk and the media will have to discover a completely new foil.
or better
The meme changes Nov.4.
or better
The meme changes Nov.4.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (SKXSf)
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Fauxi has a job because he carrys water for Chi nah.
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (wBc4e)
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Honest question: what do you say to people who then cry, "But Trump's not President all over the rest of the world! Are you saying this virus a only a hoax in America? Why would the rest of the world lie about it, too?!"
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From the link above:
"The fact that CCP’s (China's) disinformation campaign focused on Italy is crucial. Italy was the first country outside China to lock down. The rest of the world followed Italy’s lead."
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From the link above:
"The fact that CCP’s (China's) disinformation campaign focused on Italy is crucial. Italy was the first country outside China to lock down. The rest of the world followed Italy’s lead."
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (HEs3d)
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"We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender...
...unless of course WE HAVE POSITIVE CASES AND THEN WE WILL #STAYHOMESTAYSAFE"
...unless of course WE HAVE POSITIVE CASES AND THEN WE WILL #STAYHOMESTAYSAFE"
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (5bg3W)
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (JKNZq)
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What's up with the constant crashing page loads? nothing much has changed for my devices, the site just crashes a lot in IOS. Am I alone in the wilderness here?
Posted by: SarahW at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (g1vnC)
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Posted by: banana Dream at September 02, 2020 12:32 PM (qc0du)
Thank you, banana Dream. Love the nic.Yes, it's been a crap year. Watching the St. Louis Cards brings me pleasure so I am watching. I have many good, family memories tied up in baseball so I ignore their crap.
A lot of otherwise decent people are caught up in hysteria of one type or another this year. It's in the water.
Thank you, banana Dream. Love the nic.Yes, it's been a crap year. Watching the St. Louis Cards brings me pleasure so I am watching. I have many good, family memories tied up in baseball so I ignore their crap.
A lot of otherwise decent people are caught up in hysteria of one type or another this year. It's in the water.
Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (QgFHh)
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If Trump can secure victory, if he can survive the crucible, he will have achieved probably one of the most hard fought victories this side of Lincoln and Washington and in many ways, surpasses anything they had to face.
If Trump can secure victory, if he can survive the crucible, he will have achieved probably one of the most hard fought victories this side of Lincoln and Washington and in many ways, surpasses anything they had to face.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (OyBX/)
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I love how FB/twatter et al breathlessly published every single pixel to come out of the CDC. All the way up until they decided that it was really only 6% of their original numbers that actually died as a direct cause of WuFlu.
Now, to even attempt to link to the CDC's own website regarding the revision is flagged as "conspiracy" and the post removed - if not having your account blocked.
When in fucking hell is congress going to get off of their spotty-lard asses and call these bastards out? They're publishers plain and simple, and all protections to the contrary need to be removed.
Now, to even attempt to link to the CDC's own website regarding the revision is flagged as "conspiracy" and the post removed - if not having your account blocked.
When in fucking hell is congress going to get off of their spotty-lard asses and call these bastards out? They're publishers plain and simple, and all protections to the contrary need to be removed.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (8B6Ng)
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Chi nah no doubt is working full tilt on another virus.
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (wBc4e)
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172 Unfortunately, Trump is part of the lockdown/mask problem. He let his fear of germs infect the nation.
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He didn't have to say wearing a mask was patriotic. Most annoying damn thing he's ever said. And honestly he really doesn't seem personally bothered at all by the infringements on our freedom. It's my only quarrel with him.
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He didn't have to say wearing a mask was patriotic. Most annoying damn thing he's ever said. And honestly he really doesn't seem personally bothered at all by the infringements on our freedom. It's my only quarrel with him.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (H8QX8)
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I'm skeptical that the states are using the same methodology. I'm not even sure that the private labs contracted by a state are using the same methodology. This is what happens when you have no transparency in the process.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM (K453c)
That's a good point. It could explain a lot of the discrepancies between state numbers.
It's enraging to me that the CDC or someone else isn't standardizing and coordinating and thinking about things like this.
How many billions of dollars have we "invested", over the decades, in the CDC and NIH and god knows how many other agencies whose entire role is supposed to be preparing for a pandemic and having processes in place when one hits.
Complete fucking waste of money.
Instead of doing that, the CDC decided it was better served giving out grants to professors at colleges studying all kinds of stupid bullshit (remember the grants that studied if guns were a public health issue) and not doing anything closely related to what their core mission is supposed to be.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM (K453c)
That's a good point. It could explain a lot of the discrepancies between state numbers.
It's enraging to me that the CDC or someone else isn't standardizing and coordinating and thinking about things like this.
How many billions of dollars have we "invested", over the decades, in the CDC and NIH and god knows how many other agencies whose entire role is supposed to be preparing for a pandemic and having processes in place when one hits.
Complete fucking waste of money.
Instead of doing that, the CDC decided it was better served giving out grants to professors at colleges studying all kinds of stupid bullshit (remember the grants that studied if guns were a public health issue) and not doing anything closely related to what their core mission is supposed to be.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (cnTJD)
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OR, just as likely, you long ago caught the flu, and the immune
response for that flu overlapped with the Covid-19 immune response.
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I remember there were a lot of discussions early on about whether the immune response to other corona viruses might help grant immunity - the seasonal flu, also a corona virus, works exactly like this, which is the reason for flu shots (if they always had to guess right for them to work at all we probably wouldn't get them).
And then the discussion just disappeared...
response for that flu overlapped with the Covid-19 immune response.
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I remember there were a lot of discussions early on about whether the immune response to other corona viruses might help grant immunity - the seasonal flu, also a corona virus, works exactly like this, which is the reason for flu shots (if they always had to guess right for them to work at all we probably wouldn't get them).
And then the discussion just disappeared...
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (qlFIA)
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I was tested because I was scheduled to have a colonoscopy. Tested positive, no symptoms. Had to quarantine for 10 days. Retested three weeks after the first test, still positive, no symptoms. Have been going to the gym daily, no issues. Apparently, the issue is with the test. The labs are running more test cycles than the upper limit the CDC recommends, so you could literally have a trace amount in your nasal passages from months ago, and still test positive.
Still have not had the colonoscopy.
Still have not had the colonoscopy.
Posted by: Tofer732 at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (fiBkQ)
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Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (j9HX3)
The response is, who gives a shit about the rest of the world? WHAT DOES THE DATA SAY? People need to stop being anecdotal and READ THE DATA. Data says this is not an extinction-level event.
The response is, who gives a shit about the rest of the world? WHAT DOES THE DATA SAY? People need to stop being anecdotal and READ THE DATA. Data says this is not an extinction-level event.
Posted by: Innagaddadavida at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (hpbeA)
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Several of our friends are doctors, and they haven't been panicked over COVID at all. Most cases in our largest local hospital came from hard-hit areas outside our county. But libs on Nextdoor are constantly hysterical because "Kemp ignores science!!!eleventy!!!!!!"
I can only imagine the hell on earth we'd be living in if Tank Abrams had been elected.
I can only imagine the hell on earth we'd be living in if Tank Abrams had been elected.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (ptqGC)
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Fauxi has a job because he carrys water for Chi nah.
That and he still has to artificially inflate his Gilead/Remdesivir stock.
That and he still has to artificially inflate his Gilead/Remdesivir stock.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (5bg3W)
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My beautiful, wonderful, 16-yo daughter is having something close to an existential crisis over the continued lockdown. I cannot express the depths of the hatred I feel for these people.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
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What's happening to her? When I was 4 or 5 we had a summer here in California with an El Nino. It rained almost every day and I had to stay in. I was sadz. If I had to lock down, wear a mask, and stay away from everyone, it would have been traumatic.
My beautiful, wonderful, 16-yo daughter is having something close to an existential crisis over the continued lockdown. I cannot express the depths of the hatred I feel for these people.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
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What's happening to her? When I was 4 or 5 we had a summer here in California with an El Nino. It rained almost every day and I had to stay in. I was sadz. If I had to lock down, wear a mask, and stay away from everyone, it would have been traumatic.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (G51Gf)
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Unfortunately, they've traumatized so many people that some may go the rest of their lives wearing a mask in public.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Remember about three weeks ago when Fauci said that goggles and face-shields might be necessary and were definitely a good idea?
Well, a lefty friend of mine who is all-in with the corona-panic IMMEDIATELY -- like, within 5 minutes of hearing Fauci say that -- when online and bought face-shields and goggles for her entire family. And ever since that day she wears them every time she goes outside.
She just assumed that face-shields and goggles were going to be the next escalation, so she wanted to get them before everyone else panic-bought them, and be ahead of the curve.
But now she looks around every time she leaves the house and -- oooooops -- the whole face-shield thing DIDN'T catch on. No one else is wearing them.
So she looks the fool.
Problem, is, she CAN'T BACK DOWN, because that would mean that she was WRONG to panic, and that there really isn't that much of a risk. Oh no, she could never ever admit that.
So now she's stuck wearing a face-shield and goggles for the rest of her life.
And she forces her husband to wear them too.
Sheer insanity.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Remember about three weeks ago when Fauci said that goggles and face-shields might be necessary and were definitely a good idea?
Well, a lefty friend of mine who is all-in with the corona-panic IMMEDIATELY -- like, within 5 minutes of hearing Fauci say that -- when online and bought face-shields and goggles for her entire family. And ever since that day she wears them every time she goes outside.
She just assumed that face-shields and goggles were going to be the next escalation, so she wanted to get them before everyone else panic-bought them, and be ahead of the curve.
But now she looks around every time she leaves the house and -- oooooops -- the whole face-shield thing DIDN'T catch on. No one else is wearing them.
So she looks the fool.
Problem, is, she CAN'T BACK DOWN, because that would mean that she was WRONG to panic, and that there really isn't that much of a risk. Oh no, she could never ever admit that.
So now she's stuck wearing a face-shield and goggles for the rest of her life.
And she forces her husband to wear them too.
Sheer insanity.
Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (HEEq1)
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Trump says you can't get Covid 19 from a toilet seat.
Posted by: Politico at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (gtpUx)
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Yes, there's a chicken in every pot under President Trump, but it probably has worms and a touch of botulism so you should probably dispose and burn it with prejudice.
Posted by: Politico at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (HhXSr)
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I'd love a response to this also, because this is my NTer husband's main argument against me!
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (j9HX3)
China started the scare propaganda with the help of their lapdog WHO and the Left in the US and Europe embraced it because never let a made up crisis go to waste. It then began to feed upon itself with fudged numbers.
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (j9HX3)
China started the scare propaganda with the help of their lapdog WHO and the Left in the US and Europe embraced it because never let a made up crisis go to waste. It then began to feed upon itself with fudged numbers.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (2DOZq)
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Natasha Bertrand perhaps ?
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (5MsXj)
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172 Unfortunately, Trump is part of the lockdown/mask problem. He let his fear of germs infect the nation.
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No, I think he and other leaders saw this as a bioweapon at first.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:25 PM (kA3Cp)
Agreed.
It was the prudent approach to take.
And who's to say it wasn't? The damn thing escaped the lab, and Chy Na took advantage of the opportunity.
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No, I think he and other leaders saw this as a bioweapon at first.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:25 PM (kA3Cp)
Agreed.
It was the prudent approach to take.
And who's to say it wasn't? The damn thing escaped the lab, and Chy Na took advantage of the opportunity.
Posted by: browndog at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (BgMrQ)
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When I had to be tested so I could go back to work, they had me swab up there. I told people, though, that "They stuck about six inches of Q-Tip up into my brain and swirled it around in there. I think some of my memories of grade school are gone."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Fuck 'em. They ain't touching me. They can wave the swab around in the air in front of my mouth.
If they cannot get enough of a viral load there, you ain't catching it from me as we pass in the grocery store.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
Fuck 'em. They ain't touching me. They can wave the swab around in the air in front of my mouth.
If they cannot get enough of a viral load there, you ain't catching it from me as we pass in the grocery store.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (LImvu)
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#197 ...they're OUR publishers
No shoo away now.
No shoo away now.
Posted by: Pelosi at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (wBc4e)
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Think the person this is bad news for is. . . Bill Gates.
Don't need a vaccine is so many have been exposed yet did not have a bad (or even a significant) reaction to is.
Don't need a vaccine is so many have been exposed yet did not have a bad (or even a significant) reaction to is.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (bDqIh)
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No trolls today? There a convention somewhere?
Posted by: BignJames at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (X/Pw5)
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"We'd like to sign the surrender at Appomattox courthouse tomorrow, Mr. President, but OMG THERE ARE MORE CASES! WE HAVE TO POSTPONE"
Posted by: Lincoln's "Advisors" at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (Ejm1K)
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Joy Reid says that Trump supporters are violent like muslims.
Will the Wokerati catch this bigoted utterance and flay this homophobic halfwit for it, finally?
Joy Reid says that Trump supporters are violent like muslims.
Will the Wokerati catch this bigoted utterance and flay this homophobic halfwit for it, finally?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (pNxlR)
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One way or the other, this entire scam ends shortly after November 3rd.
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I think Newsome will continue to punish us no matter what.
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I think Newsome will continue to punish us no matter what.
Posted by: wth at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (v0R5T)
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Honest question: what do you say to people who then cry, "But Trump's not President all over the rest of the world! Are you saying this virus a only a hoax in America? Why would the rest of the world lie about it, too?!"
I'd love a response to this also, because this is my NTer husband's main argument against me!
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (j9HX3)
The virus isn't a hoax. It has, however, presented an opportunity for power hungry wannabe tyrants to live out their authoritarian dreams. Look at the disparate ways different states and countries have handled it, even after accounting for infection rates and deaths.
I'd love a response to this also, because this is my NTer husband's main argument against me!
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at September 02, 2020 01:24 PM (j9HX3)
The virus isn't a hoax. It has, however, presented an opportunity for power hungry wannabe tyrants to live out their authoritarian dreams. Look at the disparate ways different states and countries have handled it, even after accounting for infection rates and deaths.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:31 PM (9hauA)
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Now, to even attempt to link to the CDC's own website regarding the revision is flagged as "conspiracy" and the post removed - if not having your account blocked.
When in fucking hell is congress going to get off of their spotty-lard asses and call these bastards out? They're publishers plain and simple, and all protections to the contrary need to be removed.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (8B6Ng)
My cousin tried to send a link to a, well, arguably less trustworthy source, to my brother and me via the facebook messenger app which we sometimes use to text each other.
Facebook blocked the message for "promoting conspiracy theories" or something similar. He sent me a screenshot of the message he got.
How fucking Orwellian is that?!
Now, to even attempt to link to the CDC's own website regarding the revision is flagged as "conspiracy" and the post removed - if not having your account blocked.
When in fucking hell is congress going to get off of their spotty-lard asses and call these bastards out? They're publishers plain and simple, and all protections to the contrary need to be removed.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (8B6Ng)
My cousin tried to send a link to a, well, arguably less trustworthy source, to my brother and me via the facebook messenger app which we sometimes use to text each other.
Facebook blocked the message for "promoting conspiracy theories" or something similar. He sent me a screenshot of the message he got.
How fucking Orwellian is that?!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:31 PM (cnTJD)
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The Dow is currently inches from 29,000.
That Morgan Stanley announcement that investors should position for a Trump win instead of a Biden win, and a spate of unexpected good earnings reports are driving toward record territory.
In the middle of a "pandemic"
I took a look at my portfolios, I am currently up 6% for the year, and 12% over the last 12 months. I've made more money in my 401K than I pulled down in a paycheck this year.
During a "pandemic"
That Morgan Stanley announcement that investors should position for a Trump win instead of a Biden win, and a spate of unexpected good earnings reports are driving toward record territory.
In the middle of a "pandemic"
I took a look at my portfolios, I am currently up 6% for the year, and 12% over the last 12 months. I've made more money in my 401K than I pulled down in a paycheck this year.
During a "pandemic"
Posted by: Dave in Fla at September 02, 2020 01:31 PM (5p7BC)
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They opened the movie theaters here. Nothing to see but yes!
Posted by: mpfs, I choose the light, I choose Trump! at September 02, 2020 01:31 PM (exwtQ)
Posted by: Viron Con Dios at September 02, 2020 01:31 PM (d6DSt)
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A vaccine (unlikely to be effective) *might* be relevant for the tiny slice of the population that is at serious risk from C19. For all healthy people under 50, or even 60, it's irrelevant. For the normal operation of almost all of society - it's irrelevant.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (OTzUX)
that is how the flu shot works
it only helps a little if at all, with only so many people
it's unpredictable chance
Posted by: rhomboid at September 02, 2020 01:23 PM (OTzUX)
that is how the flu shot works
it only helps a little if at all, with only so many people
it's unpredictable chance
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:31 PM (rjE57)
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"When I was 4 or 5 we had a summer here in California with an El Nino."
I believe that is Spanish for, "the Nino".
I believe that is Spanish for, "the Nino".
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 02, 2020 01:31 PM (1ISKN)
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If only ace had waited a couple more hours to post this we probably could have gotten a hilarious rant about how we all need to wear masks
Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2020 01:31 PM (CzsKO)
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194 What's up with the constant crashing page loads? nothing much has changed for my devices, the site just crashes a lot in IOS. Am I alone in the wilderness here?
Posted by: SarahW at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (g1vnC)
It crashes reliably and repeatedly on my Iphone and my Ipad.
This may help.
https://tinyurl.com/yc3j2yo3
Posted by: SarahW at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (g1vnC)
It crashes reliably and repeatedly on my Iphone and my Ipad.
This may help.
https://tinyurl.com/yc3j2yo3
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 02, 2020 01:31 PM (o2MD2)
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Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (HEEq1)
Her husband needs to get his balls back out of his wife's sterilized purse. 50% of this shit happened because the menfolk went along with it.
Her husband needs to get his balls back out of his wife's sterilized purse. 50% of this shit happened because the menfolk went along with it.
Posted by: Innagaddadavida at September 02, 2020 01:31 PM (hpbeA)
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Funny how a motley band of knuckledragging Morons correctly called this thing out as bullshit almost immediately.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (NWiLs)
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There's a huge Silent Majority that wants normalcy. I know with my kid's school, there's an outraged groundswell wanting to return now. Of course the lazy teachers are dragging their feet and not letting parents even vote on this.
I think Trump is really well positioned, everyone knows which candidate wants indefinite lockdowns and which one wants us to go back to normal.
I also sense a real outrage towards the "chicken littles" when it came to Corona that will be punished.
I think Trump is really well positioned, everyone knows which candidate wants indefinite lockdowns and which one wants us to go back to normal.
I also sense a real outrage towards the "chicken littles" when it came to Corona that will be punished.
Posted by: Blago at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (gkdnV)
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Now I'll me able to watch the new James Bond movie in peace in November.
Posted by: mpfs, I choose the light, I choose Trump! at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (exwtQ)
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It's everywhere!
@IngrahamAngle
Now the woke sports media are complaining about the Kentucky Derby:
https://tinyurl.com/y3vubeup
Posted by: Tami at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (cF8AT)
Can't access the twatter account.
Just make the horses wear masks. Problem solved.
@IngrahamAngle
Now the woke sports media are complaining about the Kentucky Derby:
https://tinyurl.com/y3vubeup
Posted by: Tami at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (cF8AT)
Can't access the twatter account.
Just make the horses wear masks. Problem solved.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (hku12)
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DeBlasio is talking about maybe loosening things up by Spring....
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (HwiWi)
It's Springtime for DeCommio and BLM. It's winter for NYC....
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2020 01:27 PM (HwiWi)
It's Springtime for DeCommio and BLM. It's winter for NYC....
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (mpeBU)
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More Stupid Party news: Gateway Pundit is reporting that we've agreed on debate moderators: all Trump haters. Same shit every four years.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (H8QX8)
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Hey, now that Nanzi has broken the ice, if anyone wants to shame you for not wearing a mask just tell them F Off - I'm following the Speaker of House' instructions H8TRs.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (eAVLs)
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Health self-assessments required before you start your shift.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 02, 2020
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My employer keeps texting me this daily "self-check." After answering "No" to all the symptom questions the first time, I've been deleting the texts. I've considered marking them as spam, but other, actually useful alerts (like "We're closed for tomorrow's hurricane") may come from the same source.
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Ha! We're supposed to do that too. Every morning before we leave home, we're supposed to log on to something and fill out the questionnaire. I don't do it, have never done it and won't do it. And I don't think anyone else is either.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 02, 2020
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My employer keeps texting me this daily "self-check." After answering "No" to all the symptom questions the first time, I've been deleting the texts. I've considered marking them as spam, but other, actually useful alerts (like "We're closed for tomorrow's hurricane") may come from the same source.
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Ha! We're supposed to do that too. Every morning before we leave home, we're supposed to log on to something and fill out the questionnaire. I don't do it, have never done it and won't do it. And I don't think anyone else is either.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (vg8iE)
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Joy Reid says that Trump supporters are violent like muslims.
Will the Wokerati catch this bigoted utterance and flay this homophobic halfwit for it, finally?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (pNxlR)
Ah yes, white people are the real terrorists, brought to you by the New York elite. That should go over well.
Will the Wokerati catch this bigoted utterance and flay this homophobic halfwit for it, finally?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (pNxlR)
Ah yes, white people are the real terrorists, brought to you by the New York elite. That should go over well.
Posted by: trev006 at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (aE1H/)
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They're letting him talk. This wont end well.
Posted by: Menack at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (buTO7)
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Trump denies that self abuse leads to corona virus and the comorbidities of blindness and hairy palms.
Posted by: Politico at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (gtpUx)
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No, I think he and other leaders saw this as a bioweapon at first.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
At first, yes. After bodies didn't drop in the streets, no.
Remember, 1918 is the gold standard for pandemics.
If it's not approaching those numbers, then it isn't.
Infected doesn't mean shit. Dead does.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
At first, yes. After bodies didn't drop in the streets, no.
Remember, 1918 is the gold standard for pandemics.
If it's not approaching those numbers, then it isn't.
Infected doesn't mean shit. Dead does.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (LImvu)
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The Left and NeverTrumpers have worked them selves into a grab-bag of personality disorders.
And some of them have gone from disorder to pyschosis.
E'rryone should check out The Fourth Age's latest vid. He talks about that study about the Left and their Dark Triad syndrome.
youtube.com/watch?v=c4eQWx5P05A
And some of them have gone from disorder to pyschosis.
E'rryone should check out The Fourth Age's latest vid. He talks about that study about the Left and their Dark Triad syndrome.
youtube.com/watch?v=c4eQWx5P05A
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (S+F2a)
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So much bad information out there, it's really rather simple. Tests for the virus aren't actually looking for the virus, like it's a flashlight that gets turned on and sees it or not. No, the test find chemical markers that SHOULD be unique to this virus, attach to those markers, then amplify them so they show up on the test.
PCR is looking for specific DNA sequences that are unique to the virus. A positive PCR is a positive, however PCR can amplify even the faintest signal. They are running these things out past 40 cycles- roughly speaking- 40 doublings- 2x2x2x2x2x2x2.... If the detector can't detect the DNA at 30 cycles, there is not enough viral load to make you infectious. They are continuing to another 10 doublings and reporting that as a positive. WHile technically correct, you are not infectious if it isn't detected after 30.
PCR is looking for specific DNA sequences that are unique to the virus. A positive PCR is a positive, however PCR can amplify even the faintest signal. They are running these things out past 40 cycles- roughly speaking- 40 doublings- 2x2x2x2x2x2x2.... If the detector can't detect the DNA at 30 cycles, there is not enough viral load to make you infectious. They are continuing to another 10 doublings and reporting that as a positive. WHile technically correct, you are not infectious if it isn't detected after 30.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (dNzKv)
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"But I do think the initial phases were an error. Every second since
then has not been an error - it's been coordinated terrorism against the
American people."
Some people were misled, but some may have (should have) known from the start, it came out of the Fauci lab (he moved the research there, when it was deemed too dangerous here ... they knew ... early warnings came directly from the researchers, iirc)
It is a real virus, and maybe China tried to scare everyone as well, to get the world to shut down ... did they see that as good for them? idk, maybe they had the problem first, so decided to save their other regions, but spread the virus intentionally ... while collecting supplies from around the world, then selling them back (at a premium?) ...
But the part about Fauci moving the research to Wuhan ... and working with Gates all along ... idk. The one good thing ... the world is now turning against China, seeing the malicious intent, not just on the virus, but that may have flipped much of their support (including Thailand now, I hear)
then has not been an error - it's been coordinated terrorism against the
American people."
Some people were misled, but some may have (should have) known from the start, it came out of the Fauci lab (he moved the research there, when it was deemed too dangerous here ... they knew ... early warnings came directly from the researchers, iirc)
It is a real virus, and maybe China tried to scare everyone as well, to get the world to shut down ... did they see that as good for them? idk, maybe they had the problem first, so decided to save their other regions, but spread the virus intentionally ... while collecting supplies from around the world, then selling them back (at a premium?) ...
But the part about Fauci moving the research to Wuhan ... and working with Gates all along ... idk. The one good thing ... the world is now turning against China, seeing the malicious intent, not just on the virus, but that may have flipped much of their support (including Thailand now, I hear)
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:33 PM (Cus5s)
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Honest question: what do you say to people who then cry, "But Trump's not President all over the rest of the world! Are you saying this virus a only a hoax in America? Why would the rest of the world lie about it, too?!"
I know the answer, but what's a succinct rebuttal look like?
Who is saying that the virus is ONLY a hoax? This has been a huge strawman.
I know the answer, but what's a succinct rebuttal look like?
Who is saying that the virus is ONLY a hoax? This has been a huge strawman.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 02, 2020 01:33 PM (LxTcq)
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As bioweapons go, Covid 19 is pretty pussyesque.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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It was made in China, you know what their quality control is like.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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It was made in China, you know what their quality control is like.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:33 PM (kA3Cp)
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If Biden wins the blue states will open up, and the federal government will force the red states to close.
If Trump wins the red states will open up completely, along with some of the blue states (since they aren't getting a bail out). A few will likely double down because if you are someone like a Whitmer, well, the lock down is the most fun you've had since you got to play Horst Wesel in your Hitler Youth Camp.
If Trump wins the red states will open up completely, along with some of the blue states (since they aren't getting a bail out). A few will likely double down because if you are someone like a Whitmer, well, the lock down is the most fun you've had since you got to play Horst Wesel in your Hitler Youth Camp.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:33 PM (qlFIA)
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If they cannot get enough of a viral load there, you ain't catching it from me as we pass in the grocery store.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (LImvu)
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That sounds almost like something a scientist would have hypothesized a few decades ago.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (LImvu)
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That sounds almost like something a scientist would have hypothesized a few decades ago.
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020 01:33 PM (HEs3d)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (gtNWf)
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235 More Stupid Party news: Gateway Pundit is reporting that we've agreed on debate moderators: all Trump haters. Same shit every four years.
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C'mon man, who doesn't want to watch Trump in a three way cage match? I pity the fool (Biden) and the moderator (guy with mangina). This is gonna be great!
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C'mon man, who doesn't want to watch Trump in a three way cage match? I pity the fool (Biden) and the moderator (guy with mangina). This is gonna be great!
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (eAVLs)
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Anybody watching Joey Mumbles give the latest speech today - man, he's barely audible. I guess the gist of his speech is the schoiols should be open...except because of Trump...or something - yeah, its pretty incoherent. But it doesn't matter anymore, because I highly doubt anyone is listening or cares - the battle lines are already long since drawn - between us normals and the left. I seriously doubt we have anyone left with a brain who is undecided about who they'll vote for to be the next president.
Posted by: Boswell at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (w2LAm)
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Viron Con Dios...you probably think that's funny.
All you did was hurt our feelings.
Lepers are people too
Unlike Morons.
All you did was hurt our feelings.
Lepers are people too
Unlike Morons.
Posted by: Lepers Everywhere at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (wBc4e)
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But now she looks around every time she leaves the house and -- oooooops -- the whole face-shield thing DIDN'T catch on. No one else is wearing them.
Down south here most of the people working in the market are wearing them (no mask). It's pretty ridiculous actually, they say "face covering". So really, you're still turning particulate matter loose with just a face shield. And, people can't spittle fleck your face. I'd certainly wear one if I was in the service industry, a heck of a lot more comfortable than the $%#& masks.
Down south here most of the people working in the market are wearing them (no mask). It's pretty ridiculous actually, they say "face covering". So really, you're still turning particulate matter loose with just a face shield. And, people can't spittle fleck your face. I'd certainly wear one if I was in the service industry, a heck of a lot more comfortable than the $%#& masks.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (8B6Ng)
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Another thing I lament is that Queen Elizabeth wasted her precious dignity on this to make a rah-rah speech as if the Germans were bombing London again. If only she'd said "Ignore the bullshit and carry on."
Another thing I lament is that Queen Elizabeth wasted her precious dignity on this to make a rah-rah speech as if the Germans were bombing London again. If only she'd said "Ignore the bullshit and carry on."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (G51Gf)
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@IngrahamAngle
Now the woke sports media are complaining about the Kentucky Derby:
https://tinyurl.com/y3vubeup
Posted by: Tami at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (cF8AT)
LOL.
Isn't it part of the Triple Corona?
Now the woke sports media are complaining about the Kentucky Derby:
https://tinyurl.com/y3vubeup
Posted by: Tami at September 02, 2020 01:20 PM (cF8AT)
LOL.
Isn't it part of the Triple Corona?
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)
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Trump's election depends on his ability to bring the mortality rate to 0%.
Posted by: Politico at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (gtpUx)
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I just got the flu shot. I have MS and the flu could do real damage to my already compromised immune system.
Had the pneumonia vaccine too.
Never had the flu since the late 90s. It wasn't pretty when I did get it.
Had the pneumonia vaccine too.
Never had the flu since the late 90s. It wasn't pretty when I did get it.
Posted by: mpfs, I choose the light, I choose Trump! at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (exwtQ)
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Where are all the sick people?
Posted by: Where are all the sick people at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (UakdN)
elderly and pre-conditioned with a serious illness
Trump has personally experienced losing more than one good friend from this, and he seemed shocked. It happened so quickly.
I have yet to know anyone that had it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020
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I personally knew, one person that died of it. One. And she was over 70 and overweight to boot.
One on my writing group members said his sister and brother-in-law had it, and recovered. And the Bernie Bro member of our group said he had a light case.
That's it.
Posted by: Where are all the sick people at September 02, 2020 01:09 PM (UakdN)
elderly and pre-conditioned with a serious illness
Trump has personally experienced losing more than one good friend from this, and he seemed shocked. It happened so quickly.
I have yet to know anyone that had it.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020
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I personally knew, one person that died of it. One. And she was over 70 and overweight to boot.
One on my writing group members said his sister and brother-in-law had it, and recovered. And the Bernie Bro member of our group said he had a light case.
That's it.
Posted by: Lincoln's at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (Ejm1K)
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What is the point of the bonus cash for a positive test? Besides the obvious
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (/6GbT)
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I cannot express the depths of the hatred I feel for these people.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
I get it.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
I get it.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (H8QX8)
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So your test almost certainly wasn't a " false positive" - -it accurately revealed that you long ago had a mild viral infection that you didn't even notice.
Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (HEEq1)
The other option is that the 1st test was background noise or (more likely IMO) a PCR artifact. If they're really running these tests out to 40 cycles then it's almost certainly one of the two.
Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2020 01:19 PM (HEEq1)
The other option is that the 1st test was background noise or (more likely IMO) a PCR artifact. If they're really running these tests out to 40 cycles then it's almost certainly one of the two.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (K453c)
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Think the person this is bad news for is. . . Bill Gates.
Don't need a vaccine is so many have been exposed yet did not have a bad (or even a significant) reaction to is.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (bDqIh)
Gates and his WHO/World Bank pals are already planning for Pandemic II: Electric Boogaloo.
Don't need a vaccine is so many have been exposed yet did not have a bad (or even a significant) reaction to is.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2020 01:30 PM (bDqIh)
Gates and his WHO/World Bank pals are already planning for Pandemic II: Electric Boogaloo.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (hku12)
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blame the FDA. Saliva tests should have been ramped up and rolled out in March - they are more effective. The good news is a push to cheap paper tests (saliva) that only turn pos if you have a viral load that could be reaching the contagious point, and provide near instant results that mean you are waiting until you've passed it around or hunkered in unecessary quarantine waiting for a too-sensitive not very useful result.
Michael Mina of Harvard has been pushing for this type of test that can do some good and give useful information in public health perspective. FDA has stood athwart.
Michael Mina of Harvard has been pushing for this type of test that can do some good and give useful information in public health perspective. FDA has stood athwart.
Posted by: SarahW at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (g1vnC)
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My local Publix finally removed the stupid directional arrows on the floor.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (ptqGC)
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256 Trump's election depends on his ability to bring the mortality rate to 0%.
Posted by: Politico at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (gtpUx)
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On every cause of death ever.
Posted by: Politico at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (gtpUx)
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On every cause of death ever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (UWqZJ)
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No, I think he and other leaders saw this as a bioweapon at first.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:25 PM (kA3Cp)
No his administration embraced a report from a British fraudster and then from a known liar Fauci.
We knew definitely that it was here at the latest in November in CA . Within a month we knew that it did not effect the young any more than a mild flu.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:25 PM (kA3Cp)
No his administration embraced a report from a British fraudster and then from a known liar Fauci.
We knew definitely that it was here at the latest in November in CA . Within a month we knew that it did not effect the young any more than a mild flu.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (2DOZq)
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Wuhan Flu isn't any more of a hoax then say the flu pandemic of 2018 or 2009.
The issue is how we grossly overreacted to it.
The issue is how we grossly overreacted to it.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (qlFIA)
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Some country music nitwit says a vote for trump is literally violence against LGBT. Can even a single act of violence against LGBT be traced to Trump? They make up some bs about LGBT not being safe in Trump's America, meanwhile they are literally being thrown off of buildings in the middle east.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (dNzKv)
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246 As bioweapons go, Covid 19 is pretty pussyesque.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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It was made in China, you know what their quality control is like.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:33 PM (kA3Cp)
First virus ever to be found to contain melamine.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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It was made in China, you know what their quality control is like.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:33 PM (kA3Cp)
First virus ever to be found to contain melamine.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 02, 2020 01:36 PM (NWiLs)
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At some stage you begin to realize that its all about Trump with certain folks, it was never about COVID, or racial equality, or the Russians, etc. These are all just flimsy excuses to rail against their real enemy, Trump.
Posted by: Boswell at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM
And at some stage you begin to realize it was never about Trump. It was about us.
Posted by: Boswell at September 02, 2020 01:14 PM
And at some stage you begin to realize it was never about Trump. It was about us.
Posted by: mikethemoose at September 02, 2020 01:36 PM (Y6UV7)
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But now she looks around every time she leaves the house and -- oooooops -- the whole face-shield thing DIDN'T catch on. No one else is wearing them.
So she looks the fool.
Problem, is, she CAN'T BACK DOWN, because that would mean that she was WRONG to panic, and that there really isn't that much of a risk. Oh no, she could never ever admit that.
So now she's stuck wearing a face-shield and goggles for the rest of her life.
And she forces her husband to wear them too.
Sheer insanity.
Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (HEEq1)
I read that the shields do nothing. Worse than a mask.
I can't wait to take mine off when I have to wear it.
I still see people driving in their cars, by themselves wearing a mask! Stay away from those people.
Now we have a visual flag on who are the most insane.
So she looks the fool.
Problem, is, she CAN'T BACK DOWN, because that would mean that she was WRONG to panic, and that there really isn't that much of a risk. Oh no, she could never ever admit that.
So now she's stuck wearing a face-shield and goggles for the rest of her life.
And she forces her husband to wear them too.
Sheer insanity.
Posted by: zombie at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (HEEq1)
I read that the shields do nothing. Worse than a mask.
I can't wait to take mine off when I have to wear it.
I still see people driving in their cars, by themselves wearing a mask! Stay away from those people.
Now we have a visual flag on who are the most insane.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:36 PM (rjE57)
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https://bit.ly/3gNTFTD
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CNN's Van Jones: 'We Need a National Moratorium on These Nighttime Marches'
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Think the Polls are HORRIBLE?
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CNN's Van Jones: 'We Need a National Moratorium on These Nighttime Marches'
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Think the Polls are HORRIBLE?
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at September 02, 2020 01:36 PM (5MsXj)
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I think Newsome will continue to punish us no matter what.
Wolf as well; he will keep tyrannizing us until his term is done in a few years
he's having WAY too much fun
Wolf as well; he will keep tyrannizing us until his term is done in a few years
he's having WAY too much fun
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (j9HX3)
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And what you should tell people, concerned about a second wave, is that we are moving PPE manufacturing and pharmaceutical production to this country, which is a very good thing.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (JKNZq)
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Unfortunately, Trump is part of the lockdown/mask problem. He let his fear of germs infect the nation.
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No, I think he and other leaders saw this as a bioweapon at first.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
I see both sides but I tend to agree with the first point.
I try to be fair and say yeah , maybe they THOUGHT it was a bioweapon because hey, I freaked out looking at the social media clips that China was releasing strategically to fk with the whole world.
"Incinerators burning night and day" . "Welding people into houses". Yeah that was scary shit.
But where was the Army biowarfare dudes? Where were the bodies in the streets? Where was the martial law? FUCK a bunch of masks! Where were the handwashing and sanitizing/sterilization stations?
Where was the martial law ?
AND WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU LISTEN TO FUCKING FAUCI THE AIDS FAILURE AND SOROS SUCKUP ?
*click my nick for a pic*
Kind of a half-ass pandemic magnified by China's fucked up disinformation campaign, seems like to me.
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No, I think he and other leaders saw this as a bioweapon at first.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada
I see both sides but I tend to agree with the first point.
I try to be fair and say yeah , maybe they THOUGHT it was a bioweapon because hey, I freaked out looking at the social media clips that China was releasing strategically to fk with the whole world.
"Incinerators burning night and day" . "Welding people into houses". Yeah that was scary shit.
But where was the Army biowarfare dudes? Where were the bodies in the streets? Where was the martial law? FUCK a bunch of masks! Where were the handwashing and sanitizing/sterilization stations?
Where was the martial law ?
AND WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU LISTEN TO FUCKING FAUCI THE AIDS FAILURE AND SOROS SUCKUP ?
*click my nick for a pic*
Kind of a half-ass pandemic magnified by China's fucked up disinformation campaign, seems like to me.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (5bg3W)
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Thanks for your responses, Horde.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (j3jZX)
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I almost think ace or another coblogger should request a write in of people to talk about how all of this has fucked up their children. How the fearmongering and forced masking has affected them. Because I got to talk to a classmate's wife for a bit about it this weekend and she was saying how her daughter is all worried and scared about "what if I get sick, does that mean I have to be quarantined for two weeks," and other stuff. And this paranoia wasn't being passed down to the daughter from her parents.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (CzsKO)
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All of this would be great if science hadn't ceased to matter 5 months ago.
This doesn't end until the people make it end.
Tyrants never willingly give up power.
This doesn't end until the people make it end.
Tyrants never willingly give up power.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (jbF6h)
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How many grandkids do you have Biden? 5 or 7?
Posted by: Menack at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (buTO7)
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I personally knew, one person that died of it. One. And she was over 70 and overweight to boot.
One on my writing group members said his sister and brother-in-law had it, and recovered. And the Bernie Bro member of our group said he had a light case.
That's it.
Posted by: Lincoln's
I know one guy that had it. Prison guard.
He's back to work.
One on my writing group members said his sister and brother-in-law had it, and recovered. And the Bernie Bro member of our group said he had a light case.
That's it.
Posted by: Lincoln's
I know one guy that had it. Prison guard.
He's back to work.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (LImvu)
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202 I was tested because I was scheduled to have a colonoscopy. Tested positive, no symptoms. Had to quarantine for 10 days. Retested three weeks after the first test, still positive, no symptoms. Have been going to the gym daily, no issues. Apparently, the issue is with the test. The labs are running more test cycles than the upper limit the CDC recommends, so you could literally have a trace amount in your nasal passages from months ago, and still test positive.
Still have not had the colonoscopy.
Posted by: Tofer732 at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (fiBkQ)
The MSM really is the Enemy of the People.
Still have not had the colonoscopy.
Posted by: Tofer732 at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (fiBkQ)
The MSM really is the Enemy of the People.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (6xA3t)
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246 As bioweapons go, Covid 19 is pretty pussyesque.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
I was in Chile when the virus madness started. At lunch with a bunch of Chilean factory workers, one of them asked me if I thought COVID was a bio-weapon. I said "if it is, whoever made it sucks at their job. Would you keep your job if you were successful fewer than 1% of the time?"
There was much jajaja after that.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
I was in Chile when the virus madness started. At lunch with a bunch of Chilean factory workers, one of them asked me if I thought COVID was a bio-weapon. I said "if it is, whoever made it sucks at their job. Would you keep your job if you were successful fewer than 1% of the time?"
There was much jajaja after that.
Posted by: Innagaddadavida at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (hpbeA)
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Some country music nitwit says a vote for trump is literally violence against LGBT.
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Trump is more on the gay train then any president outside of Obama. And I mean Obama 2012-16. Trump is more gay friendly then Obama was in his first term. So....that's bullshit.
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Trump is more on the gay train then any president outside of Obama. And I mean Obama 2012-16. Trump is more gay friendly then Obama was in his first term. So....that's bullshit.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (qlFIA)
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Unfortunately, Trump is part of the lockdown/mask problem. He let his fear of germs infect the nation.
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I'm curious where this idea that Trump rules thru his germophobia.
Did he discuss it publicly or in a book?
He has shaken a couple hundred thousand hands at graduations, embraced numerous people at award ceremonies, etc.
Hi Nurse! So glad you enjoyed your mini vacation.
Here in ND everything is pretty much normal, the school buses are headed out at 6:00am, the cafe, bar, bank, gas station in town all open. Some of the larger towns do require masks to shop, but, not all.
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I'm curious where this idea that Trump rules thru his germophobia.
Did he discuss it publicly or in a book?
He has shaken a couple hundred thousand hands at graduations, embraced numerous people at award ceremonies, etc.
Hi Nurse! So glad you enjoyed your mini vacation.
Here in ND everything is pretty much normal, the school buses are headed out at 6:00am, the cafe, bar, bank, gas station in town all open. Some of the larger towns do require masks to shop, but, not all.
Posted by: old chick at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (sOete)
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Robert Blendon, director of the Harvard Opinion Research Program
They should give it its full name, Western Harvard Opinion Research Enterprise.
They should give it its full name, Western Harvard Opinion Research Enterprise.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 02, 2020 01:37 PM (E+OcO)
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204 Several of our friends are doctors, and they haven't been panicked over COVID at all.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (ptqGC)
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Most of the docs I've talked to are similarly unpanicked. A surgeon I know is leading the charge at her kid's school for it to open full-time. The one panic-stricken doc I did see was a GP who said we must be locked down & masked until infinity, but in the next breath said most of her patients were now coming in with anxiety & depression instead of physical illness. Talk about cognitive dissonance.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (ptqGC)
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Most of the docs I've talked to are similarly unpanicked. A surgeon I know is leading the charge at her kid's school for it to open full-time. The one panic-stricken doc I did see was a GP who said we must be locked down & masked until infinity, but in the next breath said most of her patients were now coming in with anxiety & depression instead of physical illness. Talk about cognitive dissonance.
Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (R1NI2)
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Read those cheat notes, Joe! C'mon man, you can do this!
Posted by: Gref at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (AMIL/)
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Funny how a motley band of knuckledragging Morons correctly called this thing out as bullshit almost immediately.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (NWiLs)
A lot of people here are way more prescient than I am, that's for sure.
I'm often impressed.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (NWiLs)
A lot of people here are way more prescient than I am, that's for sure.
I'm often impressed.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (rjE57)
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My husband picked me up after PT one day, and we were halfway home when he said, "You're still wearing your mask." Gah! I ripped that thing off my face so fast, and hoped and prayed no one we know saw me wearing it in the car.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (ptqGC)
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My brother's godfather's son recently died of Wuhan virus just a short while after his dad passed (he was nearly 90). It was really sad.
I'm just mentioning this since people are talking about whether they knew anyone who died of it. Has no bearing on my feelings about the intense fear mongering and authoritarian behavior of donk politicians.
And clearly, ancient Nancy Pelosi doesn't think it's much of a threat.
I'm just mentioning this since people are talking about whether they knew anyone who died of it. Has no bearing on my feelings about the intense fear mongering and authoritarian behavior of donk politicians.
And clearly, ancient Nancy Pelosi doesn't think it's much of a threat.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (9hauA)
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They are so tone deaf. "We dont' care about your business being burned down. We dont' care about people being shot. We just care that it hurts Biden in the polls!"
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (JKNZq)
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"the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation on Thursday predicted more than 260,000 people could be dead from the virus by Election Day.
They misspelled 13,000"
Well that, or about 250,000 are about to die from the rona in the next couple months.
They misspelled 13,000"
Well that, or about 250,000 are about to die from the rona in the next couple months.
Posted by: Boxx Culvert - no, I am NOT entertained. at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (oyB1p)
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And at some stage you begin to realize it was never about Trump. It was about us.
definitely that was true in PA
we voted wrong in 2016
I personally know people who moved out after that because they couldn't "live among" trump voters
our ideological idiot rich boy Governor got emergency powers. WAIT! now the legislature can't just ignore all his crazy ideas!
NOW the PUNISHMENT can begin!
we've had I think the longest, most stringent restrictions on the eastern seaboard
they won't end
he's LOVING this
definitely that was true in PA
we voted wrong in 2016
I personally know people who moved out after that because they couldn't "live among" trump voters
our ideological idiot rich boy Governor got emergency powers. WAIT! now the legislature can't just ignore all his crazy ideas!
NOW the PUNISHMENT can begin!
we've had I think the longest, most stringent restrictions on the eastern seaboard
they won't end
he's LOVING this
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (j9HX3)
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Get everyone's vitamin D levels up and start the HCQ protocol as soon as someone is diagnosed and this shit goes away by November. Oh, and keep covid patients out of the f'ing nursing homes!
Posted by: PAgirlinNC at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (/5WQL)
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But now she looks around every time she leaves the house and -- oooooops -- the whole face-shield thing DIDN'T catch on. No one else is wearing them.
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I saw an elderly couple wearing these bizarre upside-down miniature face shields that rest in front of the mouth and almost below the nose. Maybe five or six square inches total, and the transparent semi-circle sat an inch or two out from the mouth.
Any cough or sneeze goes everywhere, but they sure did seem proud of their protection to save everyone else.
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I saw an elderly couple wearing these bizarre upside-down miniature face shields that rest in front of the mouth and almost below the nose. Maybe five or six square inches total, and the transparent semi-circle sat an inch or two out from the mouth.
Any cough or sneeze goes everywhere, but they sure did seem proud of their protection to save everyone else.
Posted by: Moron Robbie spikes football - I said 10,000 COVID deaths, tops, back in May at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (HEs3d)
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on the other hand, if as is possible we have another influenza outbreak this winter, expect demands for shutdowns etc all over again, regardless of whether we have a President or a half senile figurehead.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (4a9Vv)
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I still see people driving in their cars, by themselves wearing a mask! Stay away from those people.
Word. Anyone wearing a mask outside, period, needs to be beaten with a tire iron.
There are shadows of people who used to have faces, and they shall be shunned. I will not smile or make eye-contact, let alone speak to them.
I still see people driving in their cars, by themselves wearing a mask! Stay away from those people.
Word. Anyone wearing a mask outside, period, needs to be beaten with a tire iron.
There are shadows of people who used to have faces, and they shall be shunned. I will not smile or make eye-contact, let alone speak to them.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (jbF6h)
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A friend of mine is convinced the whole thing was cooked up by China and the Democrats to get Trump. It doesn't seem as crazy as it would have at one time...
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (HwiWi)
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Some country music nitwit says a vote for trump is literally violence against LGBT. Can even a single act of violence against LGBT be traced to Trump? They make up some bs about LGBT not being safe in Trump's America, meanwhile they are literally being thrown off of buildings in the middle east.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (dNzKv)
What actual fact are they basing this on?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (dNzKv)
What actual fact are they basing this on?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (lgiXo)
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289 My husband picked me up after PT one day, and we were halfway home when he said, "You're still wearing your mask." Gah! I ripped that thing off my face so fast, and hoped and prayed no one we know saw me wearing it in the car.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (ptqGC)
Stick with it, potty training isn't easy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (ptqGC)
Stick with it, potty training isn't easy.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (1ISKN)
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Remember, 1918 is the gold standard for pandemics.
If it's not approaching those numbers, then it isn't.
Infected doesn't mean shit. Dead does.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (LImvu)
We're also following a similar response to the Spanish Flu.
Interestingly enough, I remember reading something about it years ago (haven't been able to find the source, probably flagged as fake news by google) that essentially said that now that we have a better understanding of germs and bacteria, scientists are pretty sure that many, if not most, of the spanish flu deaths were from secondary bacterial pneumonia, which was running rampant through the isolation wards they put people with the flu in to.
And that that's why the death rate was so high that year. The more prudent solution would have been to tell people with the flu to stay at home and just... you know, let it ride its course, instead of bringing thousands of people with compromised immune systems (because of the flu) in to close proximity with each other in "flu clinics" which was the perfect breading grounds for bacterial pneumonia.
If it's not approaching those numbers, then it isn't.
Infected doesn't mean shit. Dead does.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (LImvu)
We're also following a similar response to the Spanish Flu.
Interestingly enough, I remember reading something about it years ago (haven't been able to find the source, probably flagged as fake news by google) that essentially said that now that we have a better understanding of germs and bacteria, scientists are pretty sure that many, if not most, of the spanish flu deaths were from secondary bacterial pneumonia, which was running rampant through the isolation wards they put people with the flu in to.
And that that's why the death rate was so high that year. The more prudent solution would have been to tell people with the flu to stay at home and just... you know, let it ride its course, instead of bringing thousands of people with compromised immune systems (because of the flu) in to close proximity with each other in "flu clinics" which was the perfect breading grounds for bacterial pneumonia.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (cnTJD)
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Does anyone really think they would be going to this level of gaslighting this early in the election cycle if, as Gaslight Inc. insists, Rapey McKiddieGroper was "running away with this election"?
Their internal numbers, and the public polls that aren't being released, must be disastrous... for them.
Their internal numbers, and the public polls that aren't being released, must be disastrous... for them.
Posted by: Doctor.Boom at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (DU2N9)
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I think Wuhan Flu *did* come out of the bio-weapons lab in China. But it likely wasn't a weapon, they were likely screwing around with trying to find a general way to handle corona viruses.
But China thought it was a bio-weapon at first, and we can apparently read their internal communications.
But China thought it was a bio-weapon at first, and we can apparently read their internal communications.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (qlFIA)
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The misinformation - massive - is not limited to North Korean drones, er, "Americans" cowering in baseless fear, or the incompetent/corrupt institutions and "leaders" vandalizing the country.
No, the CDC did not say only 6% of the total have died of C19. Not at all what they said. And they've been saying the same thing for months.
I know Twitter is a sewer and icky and has cooties - even though you can just read things without joining or participating - but it's also where actual informed commentary and analysis can be found, or linked, and it's pretty clear many don't have any real understanding of the headlines they rip and read.
For the brave, @kylamb8 has a decent, not perfect, explanation of the 6% number, by way of a simplified explanation of the death data form filed with the national data center.
No, the CDC did not say only 6% of the total have died of C19. Not at all what they said. And they've been saying the same thing for months.
I know Twitter is a sewer and icky and has cooties - even though you can just read things without joining or participating - but it's also where actual informed commentary and analysis can be found, or linked, and it's pretty clear many don't have any real understanding of the headlines they rip and read.
For the brave, @kylamb8 has a decent, not perfect, explanation of the 6% number, by way of a simplified explanation of the death data form filed with the national data center.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (OTzUX)
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I'm just mentioning this since people are talking about whether they knew anyone who died of it. Has no bearing on my feelings about the intense fear mongering and authoritarian behavior of donk politicians.
And clearly, ancient Nancy Pelosi doesn't think it's much of a threat.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (9hauA)
My neighbor had a close friend that was in the hospital for something. They tested her for Covid and the first test was negative. They tested her again and it was positive. She died the next day.
They blame Covid.
I'm just mentioning this since people are talking about whether they knew anyone who died of it. Has no bearing on my feelings about the intense fear mongering and authoritarian behavior of donk politicians.
And clearly, ancient Nancy Pelosi doesn't think it's much of a threat.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (9hauA)
My neighbor had a close friend that was in the hospital for something. They tested her for Covid and the first test was negative. They tested her again and it was positive. She died the next day.
They blame Covid.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 02, 2020 01:40 PM (Zz0t1)
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235 More Stupid Party news: Gateway Pundit is reporting that we've agreed on debate moderators: all Trump haters. Same shit every four years.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (H8QX
Thanks, Ronna (Romney) McDaniel! Great RNC you're running there.
It's great to run around and raise money, and to host a successful convention (which Trump probably had more to do with than you), but it's your job to negotiate the moderators for the debates, and you can't even do that well?
This is why I'm not giving money to the RNC. Better to support candidates directly.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (H8QX
Thanks, Ronna (Romney) McDaniel! Great RNC you're running there.
It's great to run around and raise money, and to host a successful convention (which Trump probably had more to do with than you), but it's your job to negotiate the moderators for the debates, and you can't even do that well?
This is why I'm not giving money to the RNC. Better to support candidates directly.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 02, 2020 01:40 PM (6xA3t)
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>>> I know the answer, but what's a succinct rebuttal look like?
The United States isn't the only country that has communist a-holes willing to use a global pandemic to advance their totalitarian agenda.
Look at BLM going after a statue of Robert the Bruce in Scotland for more detail.
The United States isn't the only country that has communist a-holes willing to use a global pandemic to advance their totalitarian agenda.
Look at BLM going after a statue of Robert the Bruce in Scotland for more detail.
Posted by: mikethemoose at September 02, 2020 01:40 PM (Y6UV7)
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146 You should see the way they are spinning the reduced Covid death numbers since the CDC reduced them from 150,000 to 10,000.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (LImvu)
That's not true on two counts. One, there was no revision. Those stats have been reported weekly by the CDC since the start. Two, it's just the percentage of people killed by the virus that have no other identified comorbidity. If you had diabetes, hypertension, obesity, etc when killed by the virus you aren't included in that count.
I believe the COVID deaths over counted, but not dramatically. Sweden for example has COIVID 5800 deaths but only 4200 excess deaths, suggesting many of the older folks dying of COVID would've passed due to other causes during the past 6 months.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:22 PM (LImvu)
That's not true on two counts. One, there was no revision. Those stats have been reported weekly by the CDC since the start. Two, it's just the percentage of people killed by the virus that have no other identified comorbidity. If you had diabetes, hypertension, obesity, etc when killed by the virus you aren't included in that count.
I believe the COVID deaths over counted, but not dramatically. Sweden for example has COIVID 5800 deaths but only 4200 excess deaths, suggesting many of the older folks dying of COVID would've passed due to other causes during the past 6 months.
Posted by: Serious Cat at September 02, 2020 01:40 PM (700n7)
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I'm just mentioning this since people are talking about whether they knew anyone who died of it.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (9hauA)
I still don't know anyone that knows anyone that's had it.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (9hauA)
I still don't know anyone that knows anyone that's had it.
Posted by: BignJames at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (X/Pw5)
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Wuhan Flu isn't any more of a hoax then say the flu pandemic of 2018 or 2009.
The issue is how we grossly overreacted to it.
Posted by: 18-1
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I was always scored it as a bad flu, not that it was all pretend.
Like if we didn't have a flu vaccine for normal flu, it would post similar numbers to Corona every year. And something 99% of people don't have to worry about.
The scientific and health care community really has egg all over its face for all of this. They showed their true colors.
The issue is how we grossly overreacted to it.
Posted by: 18-1
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I was always scored it as a bad flu, not that it was all pretend.
Like if we didn't have a flu vaccine for normal flu, it would post similar numbers to Corona every year. And something 99% of people don't have to worry about.
The scientific and health care community really has egg all over its face for all of this. They showed their true colors.
Posted by: Blago at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (gkdnV)
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""But Trump's not President all over the rest of the world! Are you
saying this virus a only a hoax in America? Why would the rest of the
world lie about it, too?!"
the Davos crowd is "the rest of the world" that is lying about it. Gates and others have specific plans for their injections -- probably not actually inserting tracking chips (one wilder theory), but something as evil ... Gates himself talks of population control via vaccine, and has a bad record in India, and I think Africa .... WHO is clearly in on it, on the China side ...
saying this virus a only a hoax in America? Why would the rest of the
world lie about it, too?!"
the Davos crowd is "the rest of the world" that is lying about it. Gates and others have specific plans for their injections -- probably not actually inserting tracking chips (one wilder theory), but something as evil ... Gates himself talks of population control via vaccine, and has a bad record in India, and I think Africa .... WHO is clearly in on it, on the China side ...
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (Cus5s)
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RBG sighting, in the wild
https://tinyurl.com/y28knram
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (gtNWf)
For what it's worth, no video at the link, including the "bride's" twatter account. Just a photo. And Ginny seems to be sitting.
So yeah, that's nice. Prop up a dying woman, and tell everyone how "fierce" she is. Fine, don't retire, lady. You'll be dead soon, and you'll have a different judge on your case then.
https://tinyurl.com/y28knram
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (gtNWf)
For what it's worth, no video at the link, including the "bride's" twatter account. Just a photo. And Ginny seems to be sitting.
So yeah, that's nice. Prop up a dying woman, and tell everyone how "fierce" she is. Fine, don't retire, lady. You'll be dead soon, and you'll have a different judge on your case then.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
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According to The Times, Researchers from Brazil found that individuals who ignore rules on wearing facemasks are "more likely to have malevolent sociopathic traits," that that those trivializing the risks of COVID-19 showed signs of "the so-called dark-triad of personality traits - narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy."
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (dNzKv)
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Some country music nitwit says a vote for trump is literally violence against LGBT. Can even a single act of violence against LGBT be traced to Trump? They make up some bs about LGBT not being safe in Trump's America, meanwhile they are literally being thrown off of buildings in the middle east.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (dNzKv)
What actual fact are they basing this on?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (lgiXo)
It's Kacey Musgraves - a single bag with a single hammer possesses at least 2x her IQ.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (dNzKv)
What actual fact are they basing this on?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (lgiXo)
It's Kacey Musgraves - a single bag with a single hammer possesses at least 2x her IQ.
Posted by: Doctor.Boom at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (DU2N9)
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My husband picked me up after PT one day, and we were halfway home when he said, "You're still wearing your mask." Gah! I ripped that thing off my face so fast, and hoped and prayed no one we know saw me wearing it in the car.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (ptqGC)
Stick with it, potty training isn't easy.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Duuuuuuuuude.
Snooooooooort.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (ptqGC)
Stick with it, potty training isn't easy.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Duuuuuuuuude.
Snooooooooort.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (LImvu)
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My beautiful, wonderful, 16-yo daughter is having something close to an existential crisis over the continued lockdown. I cannot express the depths of the hatred I feel for these people.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
Sorry to hear that. Especially at that age, when social bonding is so very important. When I was talking to my old friend (who got it), we both said we thought we were going to go insane - literally - during the first stretch of the lockdown in CA.
This is a social experiment on an unbelievably massive scale. Books will be written and classes taught on how this affected people. If I go postal, Sacramento is my first stop.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
Sorry to hear that. Especially at that age, when social bonding is so very important. When I was talking to my old friend (who got it), we both said we thought we were going to go insane - literally - during the first stretch of the lockdown in CA.
This is a social experiment on an unbelievably massive scale. Books will be written and classes taught on how this affected people. If I go postal, Sacramento is my first stop.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (8B6Ng)
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The idea posted above, that this is never going away because COVID is a government program now, and government programs never go away?
That's f'n depressing as hell. Straight up.
That's f'n depressing as hell. Straight up.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (j3jZX)
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Infected doesn't mean shit. Dead does.
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Yep. How many infections were there from the pandemic of 2018. No one knows. How about 2009? No one knows.
Because you handle pandemics from herd immunity and expect a significant portion of the population will get it and recover.
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Yep. How many infections were there from the pandemic of 2018. No one knows. How about 2009? No one knows.
Because you handle pandemics from herd immunity and expect a significant portion of the population will get it and recover.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (qlFIA)
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And clearly, ancient Nancy Pelosi doesn't think it's much of a threat.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (9hauA)
It would be amusing if a link between covid and botox were to be established.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (9hauA)
It would be amusing if a link between covid and botox were to be established.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (lgiXo)
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My doc has had me on 5,000 IU of D3 since surgery. I also take a zinc supplement. If either my husband or I come down with COVID, I'm demanding our doctors prescribe HCQ and the other meds asap. We've both taken HCQ as a malaria preventative, no problem (except weird dreams).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: mpfs, I choose the light, I choose Trump! at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (exwtQ)
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Thanks, Ronna (Romney) McDaniel! Great RNC you're running there.
Don't trust Ronna.
Ronna is asshole.
Thanks, Ronna (Romney) McDaniel! Great RNC you're running there.
Don't trust Ronna.
Ronna is asshole.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (5bg3W)
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So New York City was destroyed for what?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (pB6Gt)
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According to The Times, Researchers from Brazil found that individuals who ignore rules on wearing facemasks are "more likely to have malevolent sociopathic traits," that that those trivializing the risks of COVID-19 showed signs of "the so-called dark-triad of personality traits - narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy."
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (dNzKv)
You can't beat social "science." Especially Brazilian social "science."
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (dNzKv)
You can't beat social "science." Especially Brazilian social "science."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 02, 2020 01:42 PM (YqDXo)
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Up here in Maine - we had 19 new cases state-wide today. 133 deaths.
The schools were slated to reopen on a "Hybrid" basis.
Then the DHHS stepped in and is trying to stop is all because the Maine Principal's Association - who put together the reopening plan - didn't get DHHS' participation or blessing for reopening.
It's all kabuki theater and I'm sick of being a forced member of the cast.
The schools were slated to reopen on a "Hybrid" basis.
Then the DHHS stepped in and is trying to stop is all because the Maine Principal's Association - who put together the reopening plan - didn't get DHHS' participation or blessing for reopening.
It's all kabuki theater and I'm sick of being a forced member of the cast.
Posted by: Defenestratus at September 02, 2020 01:42 PM (9V81o)
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According to The Times, Researchers from Brazil found that individuals
who ignore rules on wearing facemasks are "more likely to have
malevolent sociopathic traits,
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Now try people that burn, loot, and murder in the name of racial justice.
who ignore rules on wearing facemasks are "more likely to have
malevolent sociopathic traits,
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Now try people that burn, loot, and murder in the name of racial justice.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:42 PM (qlFIA)
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317 The idea posted above, that this is never going away because COVID is a government program now, and government programs never go away?
That's f'n depressing as hell. Straight up.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (j3jZX)
That's what concerns me.
That's f'n depressing as hell. Straight up.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (j3jZX)
That's what concerns me.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 02, 2020 01:42 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at September 02, 2020 01:42 PM (2RY3s)
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323 So New York City was destroyed for what?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (pB6Gt)
For electing de Blasio.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (pB6Gt)
For electing de Blasio.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 02, 2020 01:42 PM (YqDXo)
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Funny. Biden is making the same lie, that Trump is failing to do anything to open schools. And that he did nothing in January and February. I guess Democrats did not say it is racist to issue a travel ban from CHYNAH and Trump refused to shut down flights after all.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at September 02, 2020 01:43 PM (1eJby)
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Leftist corporations, universities, blue states and cities, and a fearful population will keep this insane madness going far beyond Election Day no matter who wins. The damage, IMHO, is permanent.
Posted by: Justsayin' at September 02, 2020 01:43 PM (Fs5vw)
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Anybody watching Joey Mumbles give the latest speech today -
Posted by: Boswell at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (w2LAm)
nope, staring at the temp screen on whitehouse.gov live youtube channel
only want to listen to Trump
Posted by: Boswell at September 02, 2020 01:34 PM (w2LAm)
nope, staring at the temp screen on whitehouse.gov live youtube channel
only want to listen to Trump
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:43 PM (rjE57)
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290 My brother's godfather's son recently died of Wuhan virus just a short while after his dad passed (he was nearly 90). It was really sad.
I'm just mentioning this since people are talking about whether they knew anyone who died of it. Has no bearing on my feelings about the intense fear mongering and authoritarian behavior of donk politicians.
And clearly, ancient Nancy Pelosi doesn't think it's much of a threat.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (9hauA)
I had two relatives get it (well, my aunts sister and brother). Both are in their 70's, morbidly obese, heavy smokers, diabetes, heavy drinkers, etc. One passed away, one made a full recovery.
But like... the lady who died was incredibly sickly before this began. In and out of the hospital for years. Pancreas issues, liver issues, diabetes, etc.
If it wasn't covid-19 that killed her, it would have been something out. We have no way to measure how much longer she would have lived, but I doubt it would have been much longer, and she was (clearly) just one more malady away from dying.
I'm just mentioning this since people are talking about whether they knew anyone who died of it. Has no bearing on my feelings about the intense fear mongering and authoritarian behavior of donk politicians.
And clearly, ancient Nancy Pelosi doesn't think it's much of a threat.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (9hauA)
I had two relatives get it (well, my aunts sister and brother). Both are in their 70's, morbidly obese, heavy smokers, diabetes, heavy drinkers, etc. One passed away, one made a full recovery.
But like... the lady who died was incredibly sickly before this began. In and out of the hospital for years. Pancreas issues, liver issues, diabetes, etc.
If it wasn't covid-19 that killed her, it would have been something out. We have no way to measure how much longer she would have lived, but I doubt it would have been much longer, and she was (clearly) just one more malady away from dying.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:43 PM (cnTJD)
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According to The Times, Researchers from Brazil found that individuals who ignore rules on wearing facemasks are "more likely to have malevolent sociopathic anticommunist and anti-coercion traits," that that those trivializing the risks of COVID-19 showed signs of "the so-called dark-triad of personality traits - narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy anticommunism, individual liberty preference and personal decision-making."
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (dNzKv)
++++++++
Fixed it for them.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (dNzKv)
++++++++
Fixed it for them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (Q8c/L)
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301 Remember, 1918 is the gold standard for pandemics.
If it's not approaching those numbers, then it isn't.
Infected doesn't mean shit. Dead does.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (LImvu)
To the Moron doctors and epidemiologists in the bunch, a question:
Is there ANY pandemic that has ever been stopped by a vaccine, or even by quarantine? As far as I can tell, all pandemics eventually burn themselves out. If they are really deadly, people die faster than they can spread it, and if it's not, we reach herd immunity and that stops the spread.
If that's the case, why hasn't this been shouted from the rooftops from the beginning?
Please tell me where I'm mistaken on this.
If it's not approaching those numbers, then it isn't.
Infected doesn't mean shit. Dead does.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (LImvu)
To the Moron doctors and epidemiologists in the bunch, a question:
Is there ANY pandemic that has ever been stopped by a vaccine, or even by quarantine? As far as I can tell, all pandemics eventually burn themselves out. If they are really deadly, people die faster than they can spread it, and if it's not, we reach herd immunity and that stops the spread.
If that's the case, why hasn't this been shouted from the rooftops from the beginning?
Please tell me where I'm mistaken on this.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (6xA3t)
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Some country music nitwit says a vote for trump is literally violence against LGBT. Can even a single act of violence against LGBT be traced to Trump? They make up some bs about LGBT not being safe in Trump's America, meanwhile they are literally being thrown off of buildings in the middle east.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (dNzKv)
Well, Walk Away's Brandon Strock (sp?) and his fellow gay friend were accosted and called f*gs by a mob in DC as they left after PDTs RNC acceptance speech.
That guy whose head got kicked like a soccer ball by the BLAMtifa animal had been trying to rescue a trans person who was being harassed by the noble "demonstrators".
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:35 PM (dNzKv)
Well, Walk Away's Brandon Strock (sp?) and his fellow gay friend were accosted and called f*gs by a mob in DC as they left after PDTs RNC acceptance speech.
That guy whose head got kicked like a soccer ball by the BLAMtifa animal had been trying to rescue a trans person who was being harassed by the noble "demonstrators".
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (9hauA)
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Biden is giving a "press conference" now. It is unreal.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (sGotD)
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Shorter SlowJoe: We can solve every problem in this country by me holding Beer Summits at the White House!
Posted by: Gref at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (AMIL/)
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Epidemiologists now have less credibility than Phrenologists, Astrologists, Alchemists, and Scientologists.
They have given the China Virus attributes according to the rules of Calvinball.
In a word, the pronouncements of the experts are incohert. They're not right, they're not even wrong.
They have given the China Virus attributes according to the rules of Calvinball.
In a word, the pronouncements of the experts are incohert. They're not right, they're not even wrong.
Posted by: Minuteman at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (gtpUx)
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What mallfly alluded to - and repeating what I said earlier - with the basis established, widespread fear, WH task force explicitly or implicitly embracing unscientific frameworks and tactics - there is great potential for additional mischief this next flu season.
And of course, influenza typically has a much, much broader impact than C19, which is essentially a disease of the elderly and infirm, statistically speaking.
And of course, influenza typically has a much, much broader impact than C19, which is essentially a disease of the elderly and infirm, statistically speaking.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (OTzUX)
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The googles! They do nothing!
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (LxTcq)
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According to The Times, Researchers from Brazil found that individuals who ignore rules on wearing facemasks are "more likely to have malevolent sociopathic traits," that that those trivializing the risks of COVID-19 showed signs of "the so-called dark-triad of personality traits - narcissism, Machiavellianism and psychopathy."
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020
*
*
Then I've achieved my lifelong ambition: to be recognized for my sociopathy!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020
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Then I've achieved my lifelong ambition: to be recognized for my sociopathy!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (Ejm1K)
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320 My doc has had me on 5,000 IU of D3 since surgery. I also take a zinc supplement. If either my husband or I come down with COVID, I'm demanding our doctors prescribe HCQ and the other meds asap. We've both taken HCQ as a malaria preventative, no problem (except weird dreams).
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (ptqGC)
Remember when Louie Gohmert was diagnosed with Covid? He took HCQ and Zinc throughout (plus something else, I forget what). He said he had a couple days in the middle where he felt really bad, but he was never hospitalized and he is completely recovered now. He's donating blood with antibodies to help research with that treatment.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (ptqGC)
Remember when Louie Gohmert was diagnosed with Covid? He took HCQ and Zinc throughout (plus something else, I forget what). He said he had a couple days in the middle where he felt really bad, but he was never hospitalized and he is completely recovered now. He's donating blood with antibodies to help research with that treatment.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (Kpl3J)
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One of my sister-in-laws' uncles died of it but was elderly and had multiple comorbidities. Sis-in-law's exact words: "We were all amazed he was still alive well before COVID."
Still the person I know of in 6 months.
Still the person I know of in 6 months.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (jbF6h)
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From the NY Post:
On Sunday night, a hundred guys on illegal dirt bikes roared up and down Broadway in Manhattan for hours --with no cops in sight the entire time. (You could hear the bikers gathering beforehand in The Bronx, too.)
Out for a walk, my sister and I saw part of the group rumbling down Broadway in The Bronx.
Mad Max on Broadway: The Musical
On Sunday night, a hundred guys on illegal dirt bikes roared up and down Broadway in Manhattan for hours --with no cops in sight the entire time. (You could hear the bikers gathering beforehand in The Bronx, too.)
Out for a walk, my sister and I saw part of the group rumbling down Broadway in The Bronx.
Mad Max on Broadway: The Musical
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (9TdxA)
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A friend of mine is convinced the whole thing was cooked up by China and the Democrats to get Trump. It doesn't seem as crazy as it would have at one time...
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (HwiWi)
I agree with your friend.
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (HwiWi)
I agree with your friend.
Posted by: WeBoned! at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (8k7U7)
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I read that the shields do nothing. Worse than a mask.
I can't wait to take mine off when I have to wear it.
I still see people driving in their cars, by themselves wearing a mask! Stay away from those people.
Now we have a visual flag on who are the most insane.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:36 PM (rjE57)
I was on a work call recently, and there was a question: Since the shields fog up, especially while driving, what should they do to keep safe?
Now, I don't think anyone said anything other than "wear goggles instead of a shield," but my question is, why they F are you wearing it while driving??
Are people REALLY this stupid?
Yes. Yes they are.
I can't wait to take mine off when I have to wear it.
I still see people driving in their cars, by themselves wearing a mask! Stay away from those people.
Now we have a visual flag on who are the most insane.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:36 PM (rjE57)
I was on a work call recently, and there was a question: Since the shields fog up, especially while driving, what should they do to keep safe?
Now, I don't think anyone said anything other than "wear goggles instead of a shield," but my question is, why they F are you wearing it while driving??
Are people REALLY this stupid?
Yes. Yes they are.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (hku12)
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Is there ANY pandemic that has ever been stopped by a vaccine, or even by quarantine?
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Polio by vaccine
Just imagine how Karens would have handled that prior to the vaccine.
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Polio by vaccine
Just imagine how Karens would have handled that prior to the vaccine.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (qlFIA)
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I've already been copied on an email from my lefty cousin in which she says everybody who refuses to get "the vaccine" when it comes out is an antivax wingnut who wants everyone around them to die! die! DIE!!!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (dfRN6)
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Damn! First the one-two punch of a Biden/Harris ticket, and now this!
Posted by: Weasel at September 02, 2020 01:46 PM (MVjcR)
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The only pic of RBG I want to see involves buzzards with a well fed look of satisfaction on their faces.
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 02, 2020 01:46 PM (o2MD2)
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Funny how a motley band of knuckledragging Morons correctly called this thing out as bullshit almost immediately.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (NWiLs)
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I got in an argument with a guy at work, last March, when I told him the Corona virus panic was nothing more than media generated hysteria. I told him this appeared to be nothing more than a serious case of the flu and we were headed toward massive economic damage, which he dismissed as "a few points off the stock market."
I really wish I could go back and tell him, "I told you so" but, I retired, and, don't care to revisit the argument, because I'm pretty sure the guy is a "true believer."
Fortunately, though, I was able to talk a friend of mine off the ledge, after he'd been panicked, by telling him I thought this was serious, but, don't get to worked up over it.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (NWiLs)
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I got in an argument with a guy at work, last March, when I told him the Corona virus panic was nothing more than media generated hysteria. I told him this appeared to be nothing more than a serious case of the flu and we were headed toward massive economic damage, which he dismissed as "a few points off the stock market."
I really wish I could go back and tell him, "I told you so" but, I retired, and, don't care to revisit the argument, because I'm pretty sure the guy is a "true believer."
Fortunately, though, I was able to talk a friend of mine off the ledge, after he'd been panicked, by telling him I thought this was serious, but, don't get to worked up over it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at September 02, 2020 01:46 PM (WEBkv)
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I bought a pack of Chi nah plastic clothes pins once.
Every single one broke in half in a few years.
Perhaps the Chi nah virus is breaking too.
Every single one broke in half in a few years.
Perhaps the Chi nah virus is breaking too.
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 01:46 PM (wBc4e)
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So testing for covid requires swabbing the frontal lobe. How can Biden ever be tested with his amazing shrinking brain?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020 01:46 PM (lgiXo)
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We are slowly making our way east after spending the sunner in South Dakota and Wyoming. We are seeing more masks the farther east we get. Husband still refuses to wear one. He's immunocompromised but thinks its a scam and will probably be arrested and thrown in prison.
Posted by: Megthered at September 02, 2020 01:46 PM (hmCWm)
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Oh, Cincinnati Public Schools decided to postpone in class learning. My source said it is entirely political and only to keep Trump from looking good.
Not sure how any decision to remain closed can point to Trump doing nothing to reopen. Especially when they are run by Democrat factions.
Not sure how any decision to remain closed can point to Trump doing nothing to reopen. Especially when they are run by Democrat factions.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at September 02, 2020 01:46 PM (1eJby)
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336 Some country music nitwit says a vote for trump is literally violence against LGBT. "
All that effort and he's still not gonna sell any albums to the antifags.
All that effort and he's still not gonna sell any albums to the antifags.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 02, 2020 01:46 PM (Kpl3J)
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Now the woke sports media are complaining about the Kentucky Derby:
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Black Horses' Asses Matter!
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Black Horses' Asses Matter!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (+y/Ru)
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Media lobbing softballs at sleepy Joe. Like a pre-nap dicussion at the old folks home.
Posted by: Redenzo at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (E7vND)
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If Wuflu is such a threat, why is it that they don't seem to treat it with anything? They send people home that are positive and tell them to take over the counter meds. If someone is hospitalized, they dont' seem to do anything. There are actual treatments out there for every phase of this.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (JKNZq)
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Exactly none of any projections about the virus this year have even been remotely accurate yet the only people still stupid enough to keep waving them about is the Democrat steno pool.
Meanwhile, Biden is off somewhere in screensaver mode.
Meanwhile, Biden is off somewhere in screensaver mode.
Posted by: Azathoth at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (MEFZV)
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Rising poll numbers a clear sign Trump is facing an existential crisis. Once Trump's approval ratings hit 100%, then there's only one way to go from there: down. So Trump is in a panic.
Posted by: Politico at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (HhXSr)
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So, falling COVID infection rates, less people contracting this disease. Democrats all over not following the rules they set in place (because they know it is false) and "protesters" not required to wear face masks. This only proves one thing - THERE IS NO NEED FOR MASS MAIL VOTING. All polling places should be open - no exceptions.
Posted by: Chief White Bear at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (dMcqy)
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WTF is that?
A ginger trying to transition? But from what to what??
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He's hilarious.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at September 02, 2020 01:42 PM (2RY3s)
Is he? I couldn't tell.
A ginger trying to transition? But from what to what??
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He's hilarious.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at September 02, 2020 01:42 PM (2RY3s)
Is he? I couldn't tell.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (hku12)
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Pretty good song for a member of the Neil Young group - quite shocking considering he played for Young
Or look up Sugarcane Jane "thats what I see" in Amazon music
https://tinyurl.com/y5qkqnsg
Or look up Sugarcane Jane "thats what I see" in Amazon music
https://tinyurl.com/y5qkqnsg
Posted by: brad at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (75nH5)
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My husband picked me up after PT one day, and we were halfway home when he said, "You're still wearing your mask." Gah! I ripped that thing off my face so fast, and hoped and prayed no one we know saw me wearing it in the car.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (ptqGC
Here in Silicon Valley, the site of Asian ladies wearing masks and white cotton gloves while driving has never been unusual.
But now, it's fat bearded dudes in Volvos with I'm With Her stickers driving in the fast lane at 53 wearing their masks. I see people walking in the open space district wearing masks (not a soul around), riding bikes, you name it.
Too many people are perma-frightened as JJ mentioned. The masks will NEVER go away.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (ptqGC
Here in Silicon Valley, the site of Asian ladies wearing masks and white cotton gloves while driving has never been unusual.
But now, it's fat bearded dudes in Volvos with I'm With Her stickers driving in the fast lane at 53 wearing their masks. I see people walking in the open space district wearing masks (not a soul around), riding bikes, you name it.
Too many people are perma-frightened as JJ mentioned. The masks will NEVER go away.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (8B6Ng)
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My aluminum foil hat says China cooked it up to kill off theirmassive, unproductive to the commie cause elderly population. Look who it kills. And who it doesn't.
The Asians have a culture of elder worship. The Chi-Coms can't just go all genocide on them. A Plague would certainly be a perfect cover.
(aluminum-foil hat off.)
The Asians have a culture of elder worship. The Chi-Coms can't just go all genocide on them. A Plague would certainly be a perfect cover.
(aluminum-foil hat off.)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (jbF6h)
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This doesn't end until the people make it end.
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I think that is what has shaken me to my core the most - the willful compliance.
"Sure, I'll lock myself away under house arrest for months on end!"
"Sure, I'll let my parents die alone and afraid in a nursing home!"
"Sure, I'll close down my business and lose everything I've worked for in life!"
"Sure, I'll wear this mask that obstructs my breathing passages and is the most unnatural thing ever!"
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I think that is what has shaken me to my core the most - the willful compliance.
"Sure, I'll lock myself away under house arrest for months on end!"
"Sure, I'll let my parents die alone and afraid in a nursing home!"
"Sure, I'll close down my business and lose everything I've worked for in life!"
"Sure, I'll wear this mask that obstructs my breathing passages and is the most unnatural thing ever!"
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 02, 2020 01:48 PM (vg8iE)
369
The Virus is shortening American life expectancy by just over 10 days, based on 200,000 dead.
For Opioid overdoses it's just over 20 days.
For Opioid overdoses it's just over 20 days.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:48 PM (9TdxA)
370
It's a shame you always have to qualify your opinion on the mishandling of this pandemic by having to state that the virus is real and that you do not want to get or transmit it.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 02, 2020 01:48 PM (2DOZq)
371
How many grandkids do you have Biden? 5 or 7? Hint - its not 5.
Posted by: Menack at September 02, 2020 01:48 PM (buTO7)
372
The China Flu numbers are all lies top to bottom.
Time for folks to get back to living and dying in 3/4 time.
Time for folks to get back to living and dying in 3/4 time.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (Z+IKu)
373
Infected doesn't mean shit. Dead does.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (LImvu)
An article from Sturgis (Meade county) says cases are up 200%. But they use case for every thing from tested positive to in the morgue.
Chicken bone and tea leaf political science.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:32 PM (LImvu)
An article from Sturgis (Meade county) says cases are up 200%. But they use case for every thing from tested positive to in the morgue.
Chicken bone and tea leaf political science.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (SKXSf)
374
Is there ANY pandemic that has ever been stopped by a vaccine, or even by quarantine?
***
Polio by vaccine
Just imagine how Karens would have handled that prior to the vaccine.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020
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Smallpox, diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus.
***
Polio by vaccine
Just imagine how Karens would have handled that prior to the vaccine.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020
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Smallpox, diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (Ejm1K)
375
204 Several of our friends are doctors, and they haven't been panicked over COVID at all.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (ptqGC)
........
I've been to the ear doc and the periodontist in the last two months, and just made an appointment for the dermatologist. None of them seem concerned, and the appointments were like the next day after I called!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:29 PM (ptqGC)
........
I've been to the ear doc and the periodontist in the last two months, and just made an appointment for the dermatologist. None of them seem concerned, and the appointments were like the next day after I called!
Posted by: wth at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (v0R5T)
376
On Sunday night, a hundred guys on illegal dirt bikes roared up and down Broadway in Manhattan for hours --with no cops in sight the entire time. (You could hear the bikers gathering beforehand in The Bronx, too.)
Out for a walk, my sister and I saw part of the group rumbling down Broadway in The Bronx.
Mad Max on Broadway: The Musical
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (9TdxA)
Yeah, its a regular thing in NYC.
But since the cops are trying not to be racist now, I guess we're just going to ignore a bunch of black people riding around on (not street legal) dirt bikes and ATVs, terrorizing everyone, and doing incredibly dangerous shit like doing wheelies on a dirtbike at 60 mph down the west side highway
Out for a walk, my sister and I saw part of the group rumbling down Broadway in The Bronx.
Mad Max on Broadway: The Musical
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (9TdxA)
Yeah, its a regular thing in NYC.
But since the cops are trying not to be racist now, I guess we're just going to ignore a bunch of black people riding around on (not street legal) dirt bikes and ATVs, terrorizing everyone, and doing incredibly dangerous shit like doing wheelies on a dirtbike at 60 mph down the west side highway
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (cnTJD)
Posted by: Redenzo at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (E7vND)
378
I feel the worst for the nation's children and teens. A lot has been taken from them - you can't have a graduation ceremony but if your a Dem, you can't snuggle up close for a funeral a la John Lewis. And on and on.
Not to mention the strain on home life where so many kid's parents were under enormous financial strain and the ramifications that entailed.
May these pols burn in hell.
Not to mention the strain on home life where so many kid's parents were under enormous financial strain and the ramifications that entailed.
May these pols burn in hell.
Posted by: Cheri at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (oiNtH)
379
Watching Joey's presser. I wonder what drug cocktail he's on?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (ptqGC)
380
Did you notice Biden grinning with his arm around his new side chick while his wife stood clapping on his other side?
No way was he going to pick a guy...and he picked a woman with the Willie Brown seal of approval.
No way was he going to pick a guy...and he picked a woman with the Willie Brown seal of approval.
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (wBc4e)
381
>>Some country music nitwit says a vote for trump is literally violence against LGBT.
Ric Grenell says "Whaaaaat??"
Ric Grenell says "Whaaaaat??"
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (bDqIh)
382
337 Biden is giving a "press conference" now. It is unreal.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (sGotD)
Yeah, totally unreal.... hand-picked reporters asking soft ball questions that have been scripted.... it's as big a fiction as they come.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (sGotD)
Yeah, totally unreal.... hand-picked reporters asking soft ball questions that have been scripted.... it's as big a fiction as they come.
Posted by: itsacookbook at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (yPxXc)
383
...you CAN snuggle up close for a funeral. Damn Cheri.
Posted by: Cheri at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (G51Gf)
385
Virus kills people, its Trumps fault!
Virus doesnt kill people, that is still bad and still Trump fault?
Chongo no understand
Virus doesnt kill people, that is still bad and still Trump fault?
Chongo no understand
Posted by: PUE 206 at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (D/SYi)
386
They have given the China Virus attributes according to the rules of Calvinball.
Mix with the rules of Fizzbin and a living constitution.
They have given the China Virus attributes according to the rules of Calvinball.
Mix with the rules of Fizzbin and a living constitution.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 02, 2020 01:51 PM (aKsyK)
387
If Wuflu is such a threat, why is it that they don't seem to treat it with anything? They send people home that are positive and tell them to take over the counter meds. If someone is hospitalized, they dont' seem to do anything. There are actual treatments out there for every phase of this.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (JKNZq)
Steroids help in moderate disease, blood thinners- maybe if you are hypercoagulable. No other treatment has had any measurable benefit.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (JKNZq)
Steroids help in moderate disease, blood thinners- maybe if you are hypercoagulable. No other treatment has had any measurable benefit.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 02, 2020 01:51 PM (dNzKv)
388
Nope, staring at the temp screen on whitehouse.gov live youtube channel
only want to listen to Trump
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:43 PM (rjE57)
You not missing anything coherent that I can tell... Punchy is barely audible at times - like he ran up the steps of the Washington Memorial before giving this speech - and his diction is slurry. The speech is standard illogical lefty immaturity - so nothing new here.
only want to listen to Trump
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:43 PM (rjE57)
You not missing anything coherent that I can tell... Punchy is barely audible at times - like he ran up the steps of the Washington Memorial before giving this speech - and his diction is slurry. The speech is standard illogical lefty immaturity - so nothing new here.
Posted by: Boswell at September 02, 2020 01:51 PM (w2LAm)
389
My husband picked me up after PT one day, and we were halfway home when he said, "You're still wearing your mask." Gah! I ripped that thing off my face so fast, and hoped and prayed no one we know saw me wearing it in the car.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (ptqGC)
Stick with it, potty training isn't easy.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Duuuuuuuuude.
Snooooooooort.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (LImvu)
Odd, I thought Jane had joined the military, but was wondering if this is something new, where after you do PT in basic training, they let your husband pick you up.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:38 PM (ptqGC)
Stick with it, potty training isn't easy.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Duuuuuuuuude.
Snooooooooort.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (LImvu)
Odd, I thought Jane had joined the military, but was wondering if this is something new, where after you do PT in basic training, they let your husband pick you up.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:51 PM (hku12)
390
I was off the internet for a few days, was there a post on the Flynn judge pushing the case past the election?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2020 01:51 PM (r+sAi)
391
>> I feel the worst for the nation's children and teens. A lot has been taken from them - you can't have a graduation ceremony but if your a Dem, you can't snuggle up close for a funeral a la John Lewis. And on and on.
Not to mention the strain on home life where so many kid's parents were under enormous financial strain and the ramifications that entailed.
May these pols burn in hell.
- - - -
THIS.
Not to mention the strain on home life where so many kid's parents were under enormous financial strain and the ramifications that entailed.
May these pols burn in hell.
- - - -
THIS.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2020 01:51 PM (bDqIh)
392
I've already been copied on an email from my lefty cousin in which she says everybody who refuses to get "the vaccine" when it comes out is an antivax wingnut who wants everyone around them to die! die! DIE!!!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (dfRN6)
Wait, if the vaccine works then how does my refusal to take it harm someone who has taken it? Or are we going to try to apply the silly mask rule: my inoculation doesn't protect me, it protects you!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (dfRN6)
Wait, if the vaccine works then how does my refusal to take it harm someone who has taken it? Or are we going to try to apply the silly mask rule: my inoculation doesn't protect me, it protects you!
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2020 01:51 PM (K453c)
393
Lockdowns were required to make everyone lose their immunities to every other cold and flu, so that next winter everyone catches every cold and flu, including other, non-19 COVIDS, that can all be then be called COVID.
It's why I've done my best to stay out and about and in contact with people.
It's why I've done my best to stay out and about and in contact with people.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 02, 2020 01:51 PM (jbF6h)
394
Mad Max on Broadway: The Musical
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (9TdxA)
Has DiBiaso authorized construction of The Thunderdome yet?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (9TdxA)
Has DiBiaso authorized construction of The Thunderdome yet?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (lgiXo)
395
He's stammering over COVID. "The COVID cris--the COVID disease."
He just said 100,000 million people have died, and then changed it to 100,000.
He just said 100,000 million people have died, and then changed it to 100,000.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (j9HX3)
397
Is he? I couldn't tell.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Check out his channel. He's hilarious.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (G51Gf)
After he gets a hair cut.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Check out his channel. He's hilarious.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (G51Gf)
After he gets a hair cut.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (hku12)
398
Jane D'Oh
My money is on valium.
My money is on valium.
Posted by: itsacookbook at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (yPxXc)
399
Or look up Sugarcane Jane "thats what I see" in Amazon music
https://tinyurl.com/y5qkqnsg
Posted by: brad at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM
Saw it. It was cringey. Sorry but it was.
Right-wing political music usually is cringey, unless it's Sabaton or Megadeth, or Lee Greenwood. Dressing it up in hippie clothes? Nah.
https://tinyurl.com/y5qkqnsg
Posted by: brad at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM
Saw it. It was cringey. Sorry but it was.
Right-wing political music usually is cringey, unless it's Sabaton or Megadeth, or Lee Greenwood. Dressing it up in hippie clothes? Nah.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (j3jZX)
400
Biden is giving a "press conference" now. It is unreal.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (sGotD)
........
How do his eyes look today?
Posted by: IrishEi at September 02, 2020 01:44 PM (sGotD)
........
How do his eyes look today?
Posted by: wth at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (v0R5T)
401
To the Moron doctors and epidemiologists in the bunch, a question:
Is there ANY pandemic that has ever been stopped by a vaccine, or even by quarantine? As far as I can tell, all pandemics eventually burn themselves out. If they are really deadly, people die faster than they can spread it, and if it's not, we reach herd immunity and that stops the spread.
If that's the case, why hasn't this been shouted from the rooftops from the beginning?
Please tell me where I'm mistaken on this.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
We can't even do it for the normal flu WITH a vaccine.
2017-2018 flu season - 80,000 dead.
Is there ANY pandemic that has ever been stopped by a vaccine, or even by quarantine? As far as I can tell, all pandemics eventually burn themselves out. If they are really deadly, people die faster than they can spread it, and if it's not, we reach herd immunity and that stops the spread.
If that's the case, why hasn't this been shouted from the rooftops from the beginning?
Please tell me where I'm mistaken on this.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
We can't even do it for the normal flu WITH a vaccine.
2017-2018 flu season - 80,000 dead.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (LImvu)
402
I might have had COVID. I'm still angry I couldn't find out because the testing is so stupid. I had a brief febrile illness April, that given that I was the only one going out and about, and one dodgy exposure, was plausibly COVID. Without going into details, I recovered relatively swiftly, in terms of feeling "sick" but to tell the truth I have not been the same, ever since, and that "not sameness" has been progressive. I won't bore with details, but if you are above a certain age, like 29, maybe it's not nothing. I'm just saying. I think most people do well and the lockdowns except for us over 29s were worthless.
Posted by: SarahW at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (g1vnC)
403
For smallpox, didn't they quarantine the sick, not the healthy?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (9TdxA)
404
374 Is there ANY pandemic that has ever been stopped by a vaccine, or even by quarantine?
***
Polio by vaccine
Just imagine how Karens would have handled that prior to the vaccine.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020
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Smallpox, diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (Ejm1K)
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Mumps
Measles
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Polio by vaccine
Just imagine how Karens would have handled that prior to the vaccine.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020
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Smallpox, diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (Ejm1K)
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Mumps
Measles
Posted by: Braenyard at September 02, 2020 01:53 PM (SKXSf)
405
I've worked on a vaccine project so I am not vaccine phobic. However, they typically take *years* to develop. No way am I going to take a vaccine developed in less than a year. I'm not saying it won't be safe or effective. I just won't be a Guinea pig. It's like when I had an Apple (*spit*) phone, I didn't install updates until others had been using them for a month or so because there were often problems with them.
Hopefully one thing that comes out of this is methods for accelerating drug development.
Hopefully one thing that comes out of this is methods for accelerating drug development.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 01:53 PM (9hauA)
406
Posted by: Braenyard at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (SKXSf
1 case to 3 cases is a 200 percent increase.
1 case to 3 cases is a 200 percent increase.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 02, 2020 01:53 PM (2DOZq)
407
Chicken bone and tea leaf political science.
Posted by: Braenyard
Read it in the entrails of an owl.
Chicken bone and tea leaf political science.
Posted by: Braenyard
Read it in the entrails of an owl.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 02, 2020 01:53 PM (aKsyK)
408
The Democrats up for re-election up and down the line are going to be crushed. Governors, congresscritters, state house, state senate, mayors, aldermen, town council seats, the whole lot.
Posted by: mrp at September 02, 2020 01:53 PM (Pqytn)
409
smallpox (quarantines and eventually vaccination)
polio (vaccine)
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3
1918 Flu - took until 1945 to develop a vaccine.
polio (vaccine)
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3
1918 Flu - took until 1945 to develop a vaccine.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (LImvu)
410
Ironically, the theory that only 10% of cases are responsible for transmission has been out there for MONTHS. It is amazing how much information is out there and consistently shown to be true that the media is not remotely interested in spreading. Because it might help #OrangeManBad
Posted by: deadrody at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (VYv/W)
411
There really are 2 Americas.
The one where people live with covid dictating their every breath and the one where people live normally.
A custom combiner from a southern state, his family- wife and 2 girls, and 6 workers arrive here every year, mid Aug with 3 large travel trailers. They stay until end of Sept.
I've been taking them tomatoes,peppers,etc and visiting and none of them wear masks, social distance or seem anything other than normal.
The one where people live with covid dictating their every breath and the one where people live normally.
A custom combiner from a southern state, his family- wife and 2 girls, and 6 workers arrive here every year, mid Aug with 3 large travel trailers. They stay until end of Sept.
I've been taking them tomatoes,peppers,etc and visiting and none of them wear masks, social distance or seem anything other than normal.
Posted by: old chick at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (sOete)
412
Odd, I thought Jane had joined the military, but was wondering if this is something new, where after you do PT in basic training, they let your husband pick you up.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020
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PT in this case = Physical therapy, you nutters.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020
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PT in this case = Physical therapy, you nutters.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (Ejm1K)
413
Of course the smallpox death rate is about 30%. Less then Ebola...but 300x the worst cast estimate for Wuhan Flu. And we quarantined the sick people.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (qlFIA)
414
So that 6% thing was wrongly reported, BUT we are still counting a lot that did not have C19 as the CAUSE, and many are tested positive that perhaps never had symptoms, but the over sensitive testing shows them as positive.
I guess "over sensitive" maybe means they "have it" ... idk. If they can find tiny traces, do they develop a tiny bit of resistance as well? Maybe that is how our whole immune system works, and why we should not wear masks or wash our hands like Adrian Monk. Our system is constantly building antibodies to the ever changing microbio-world around us.
Anyway, the death curve is going down regardless ... no vote by mail please.
I guess "over sensitive" maybe means they "have it" ... idk. If they can find tiny traces, do they develop a tiny bit of resistance as well? Maybe that is how our whole immune system works, and why we should not wear masks or wash our hands like Adrian Monk. Our system is constantly building antibodies to the ever changing microbio-world around us.
Anyway, the death curve is going down regardless ... no vote by mail please.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (Cus5s)
415
The Virus is shortening American life expectancy by just over 10 days, based on 200,000 dead.
For Opioid overdoses it's just over 20 days.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:48 PM (9TdxA)
Right. Sure.
This is is where the term "GIGO" comes in.
Nobody knows. Nobody has any f'n idea, and there's no way for data to be that precise.
Some people have too much math on their hands.
For Opioid overdoses it's just over 20 days.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:48 PM (9TdxA)
Right. Sure.
This is is where the term "GIGO" comes in.
Nobody knows. Nobody has any f'n idea, and there's no way for data to be that precise.
Some people have too much math on their hands.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (hku12)
416
Biden looks ready to quit.
Posted by: Menack at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (buTO7)
417
I have never seen such softball questions. I mean this is completely over-the-top obvious. And you can't see who the questioners are, and they don't identify themselves.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (sGotD)
418
TB wasn't a vaccine but Science/Medicine eliminated it from the US until the Democrats opened the borders.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (SKXSf)
419
I would like to test positive. I want a ticket to be able to say "I had it, and now I'm fine!"
No need to quarantine, no need to avoid getting on a plane or booking a hotel room or visiting elderly family members.
I had the virus, and now I'm cured. Let's get on with living now.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM
I got it, got sick about 2 weeks ago. It's a lot like the flu: massive waves of fatigue, chills, bouts of coughing. I've been getting progressively better. I had influenza back in March: that was far worse than this annoyance.
And, yes, oh yes, do I plan to flout all the present-day dystopian norms once I'm back to my old self. I'm considering printing off a copy of the test results to carry in my pocket. "Look, Karen: I'M IMMUNE!"
No need to quarantine, no need to avoid getting on a plane or booking a hotel room or visiting elderly family members.
I had the virus, and now I'm cured. Let's get on with living now.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM
I got it, got sick about 2 weeks ago. It's a lot like the flu: massive waves of fatigue, chills, bouts of coughing. I've been getting progressively better. I had influenza back in March: that was far worse than this annoyance.
And, yes, oh yes, do I plan to flout all the present-day dystopian norms once I'm back to my old self. I'm considering printing off a copy of the test results to carry in my pocket. "Look, Karen: I'M IMMUNE!"
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (b3x5S)
420
Are people REALLY this stupid?
Yes. Yes they are.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (hku12)
Anybody that has been a landlord or in the service industry learns pretty quickly that a large percentage of the populace has a room temperature IQ. Why the democrats love them.
"The faucet! I turn the handle but it keeps running I can't shut it off!" [reaches under sink, turns shut-off valve] "Wow - MAGIC!"
"The washer and dryer stopped working! And the lights don't come on!" [walks to sub panel, flips breaker] "OMG! It's working again!"
Yes. Yes they are.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:45 PM (hku12)
Anybody that has been a landlord or in the service industry learns pretty quickly that a large percentage of the populace has a room temperature IQ. Why the democrats love them.
"The faucet! I turn the handle but it keeps running I can't shut it off!" [reaches under sink, turns shut-off valve] "Wow - MAGIC!"
"The washer and dryer stopped working! And the lights don't come on!" [walks to sub panel, flips breaker] "OMG! It's working again!"
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:55 PM (8B6Ng)
421
No, I think he and other leaders saw this as a bioweapon at first.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:25 PM (kA3Cp)
Knowing from whence it came, that is not an unreasonable inference. And the Chinese are assiduously using it as a bioweapon, after the fact of its appearance.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:25 PM (kA3Cp)
Knowing from whence it came, that is not an unreasonable inference. And the Chinese are assiduously using it as a bioweapon, after the fact of its appearance.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 02, 2020 01:55 PM (QowVJ)
422
I've worked on a vaccine project so I am not vaccine phobic. However, they typically take *years* to develop. No way am I going to take a vaccine developed in less than a year. I'm not saying it won't be safe or effective. I just won't be a Guinea pig. It's like when I had an Apple (*spit*) phone, I didn't install updates until others had been using them for a month or so because there were often problems with them.
Hopefully one thing that comes out of this is methods for accelerating drug development.
Posted by: chique l'African
Hopefully one thing that comes out of this, it to be allowed to use other drugs that have been on the market for 50 years.
Hopefully one thing that comes out of this is methods for accelerating drug development.
Posted by: chique l'African
Hopefully one thing that comes out of this, it to be allowed to use other drugs that have been on the market for 50 years.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:55 PM (LImvu)
423
Watching Joey's presser. I wonder what drug cocktail he's on?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (ptqGC)
I'm guessing Meth
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (ptqGC)
I'm guessing Meth
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 01:55 PM (rjE57)
424
The only pic of RBG I want to see involves buzzards with a well fed look of satisfaction on their faces.
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 02, 2020 01:46 PM
Dude. Seriously?
You've seen pictures of her. Well fed? There's no there there. She's a MRCB -Meal Rejected by Cannibal Bob.
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 02, 2020 01:46 PM
Dude. Seriously?
You've seen pictures of her. Well fed? There's no there there. She's a MRCB -Meal Rejected by Cannibal Bob.
Posted by: The Buzzards at September 02, 2020 01:55 PM (DMUuz)
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346 A friend of mine is convinced the whole thing was cooked up by China and the Democrats to get Trump. It doesn't seem as crazy as it would have at one time...
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (HwiWi)
I've called it a political scam since the beginning. Just wish Trump hadn't fallen for it. But he did and here we are.
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2020 01:39 PM (HwiWi)
I've called it a political scam since the beginning. Just wish Trump hadn't fallen for it. But he did and here we are.
Posted by: Justsayin' at September 02, 2020 01:55 PM (Fs5vw)
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For what it's worth, no video at the link, including the "bride's" twatter account. Just a photo. And Ginny seems to be sitting.
So yeah, that's nice. Prop up a dying woman, and tell everyone how "fierce" she is. Fine, don't retire, lady. You'll be dead soon, and you'll have a different judge on your case then.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
313 According to The Times, Researchers from Brazil fo
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I saw it on FB early this morning & I thought it was very photoshopped
So yeah, that's nice. Prop up a dying woman, and tell everyone how "fierce" she is. Fine, don't retire, lady. You'll be dead soon, and you'll have a different judge on your case then.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
313 According to The Times, Researchers from Brazil fo
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I saw it on FB early this morning & I thought it was very photoshopped
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (5MsXj)
427
416 Biden looks ready to quit.
Posted by: Menack at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (buTO7)
Wait until Trump has dragged his retarded old ass around the stage by the short hairs for an hour and a half.
Posted by: Menack at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (buTO7)
Wait until Trump has dragged his retarded old ass around the stage by the short hairs for an hour and a half.
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (o2MD2)
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Posted by: SarahW at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (g1vnC)
I'm not saying it is , but the stress of thinking you have or had something that is making you feel bad could be a self fulfilling cause.
I'm not saying it is , but the stress of thinking you have or had something that is making you feel bad could be a self fulfilling cause.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (2DOZq)
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390 I was off the internet for a few days, was there a post on the Flynn judge pushing the case past the election?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2020 01:51 PM (r+sAi)
Yep. I used to be more pissed off about it because I believed a resolution was needed to help Trump, which is why the Left legal establishment has worked so hard to make sure this goes past the election date.
Now I think the Dems have screwed up enough that this isn't going to affect any votes - they've handed Trump a Law and Order campaign on a silver platter, which is the strongest campaign he could possibly run on.
my prediction now is that one way or the other, this all gets dropped not long after the election. The Left won't have any use for it after that. (a lot like Covid!)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2020 01:51 PM (r+sAi)
Yep. I used to be more pissed off about it because I believed a resolution was needed to help Trump, which is why the Left legal establishment has worked so hard to make sure this goes past the election date.
Now I think the Dems have screwed up enough that this isn't going to affect any votes - they've handed Trump a Law and Order campaign on a silver platter, which is the strongest campaign he could possibly run on.
my prediction now is that one way or the other, this all gets dropped not long after the election. The Left won't have any use for it after that. (a lot like Covid!)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (Kpl3J)
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i have a friend who has bought into the fear. He and his wife probably won't go to church until there's a vaccine.
I have another friend who's doing business with a woman from New Jersey who became very sick from covid.
He was told by a NYC contact that the situation is much worse than thought and that bodies are being dumped into burial pits.
Where would that come from?
I have another friend who's doing business with a woman from New Jersey who became very sick from covid.
He was told by a NYC contact that the situation is much worse than thought and that bodies are being dumped into burial pits.
Where would that come from?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (lgiXo)
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"Look, Karen: I'M IMMUNE!"
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (b3x5S)
I have zero doubt there's got to be a talking point on why you should still wear a mask, even though you can't give it and can't contract it.
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (b3x5S)
I have zero doubt there's got to be a talking point on why you should still wear a mask, even though you can't give it and can't contract it.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:57 PM (8B6Ng)
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The left: That Russian vaccine is junk pseudo-science and hasn't been tested enough to be safe
Also the left: And the only reason they have it is they hacked our researchers!
Also, Also the left: And when we rush it out slightly later it will be perfectly safe and you want grandma to die if you don't take it!
Also the left: And the only reason they have it is they hacked our researchers!
Also, Also the left: And when we rush it out slightly later it will be perfectly safe and you want grandma to die if you don't take it!
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 01:57 PM (qlFIA)
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Miss Linda, who is a bit younger than I, thinks it's amazing that I had German measles at age 10, chickenpox at 11, and regular measles at 12. "Didn't they have vaccinations?"
I tell her, "I don't think they did back then. The doctors were all helping to build the Colosseum."
(If they had, my mother, the RN, would have made sure my brother and I got the shots.)
I tell her, "I don't think they did back then. The doctors were all helping to build the Colosseum."
(If they had, my mother, the RN, would have made sure my brother and I got the shots.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:57 PM (Ejm1K)
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They've been trying to develop a SARS-COV-1 vaccine since 2003. They're pretty much betting that it will also work for this variant too.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 02, 2020 01:57 PM (1ISKN)
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biden saying he never said he make masks mandated nationally...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (8D42x)
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Joe is due to break a hip, isn't he?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (lgiXo)
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dexamethasone has worked in double blind studies on people on vents, and has worked somewhat on those needing oxygen support. Why isn't it being used?
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (JKNZq)
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Too many people are perma-frightened as JJ mentioned. The masks will NEVER go away.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (8B6Ng)
I'll just point out that I, like many Morons here, called this months ago.
Masks are not only the ultimate in virtue signalling, it is a foolproof way for the tinpot Stalins in your neighborhood and government to know who is willing to put their neck on the chopping block.
It doesn't matter whether Teh Donald or Stinkfinger win in November - masks will be a PERMANENT feature of American life from now on.
Hear me now, believe me later.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (8B6Ng)
I'll just point out that I, like many Morons here, called this months ago.
Masks are not only the ultimate in virtue signalling, it is a foolproof way for the tinpot Stalins in your neighborhood and government to know who is willing to put their neck on the chopping block.
It doesn't matter whether Teh Donald or Stinkfinger win in November - masks will be a PERMANENT feature of American life from now on.
Hear me now, believe me later.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (2JVJo)
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Watching Joey's presser. I wonder what drug cocktail he's on?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (ptqGC)
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Prevagen and vodka.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:50 PM (ptqGC)
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Prevagen and vodka.
Posted by: wth at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (v0R5T)
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He didn't have to say wearing a mask was patriotic. Most annoying damn thing he's ever said. And honestly he really doesn't seem personally bothered at all by the infringements on our freedom. It's my only quarrel with him.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (H8QX
He's trying to win an election. That involves saying some shit you don't want to say.
If Biden and Harris win they've already announced its masks forever. Big picture.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 02, 2020 01:28 PM (H8QX
He's trying to win an election. That involves saying some shit you don't want to say.
If Biden and Harris win they've already announced its masks forever. Big picture.
Posted by: ... at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (glt4n)
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Politico is my go-to source for medical advice.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (yQpMk)
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Starting to look like The China Flu is not as bad as a bad case of the Mondays for anyone younger than ancient (sorry Grandma!).
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (lRrON)
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@415 My point is that the mortality effects of the Virus on all of us isn't that large. My math is in the ballpark, and it's about a ten day loss in life expectancy, which hardly justified all of us getting a year's house arrest.
Sucks if you get it and you're co-morbid. In hindsight we should have quarantined the vulnerable
Sucks if you get it and you're co-morbid. In hindsight we should have quarantined the vulnerable
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (9TdxA)
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Where would that come from?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (lgiXo)
In March and April, NYC and NNJ had a really bad time with the COVID. A particularly virulent strain was moving through that region. My friend and her BF live in NYC, they knew about 16 people who died from it.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (lgiXo)
In March and April, NYC and NNJ had a really bad time with the COVID. A particularly virulent strain was moving through that region. My friend and her BF live in NYC, they knew about 16 people who died from it.
Posted by: kallisto at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (DJFLF)
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Biden looks ready to quit.
Posted by: Menack at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (buTO7)
This has all the look and feel of a concession presser - not a campaign event - its weird that no one sees the questioner or knows what press service they represent, the questions are border line campaign propaganda lead-ins, and that Joe reads his responses slowly, as if he's about to gas out at any moment - what campaign wizard thought this was a good idea? Its an unmitigated disaster.
Posted by: Menack at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (buTO7)
This has all the look and feel of a concession presser - not a campaign event - its weird that no one sees the questioner or knows what press service they represent, the questions are border line campaign propaganda lead-ins, and that Joe reads his responses slowly, as if he's about to gas out at any moment - what campaign wizard thought this was a good idea? Its an unmitigated disaster.
Posted by: Boswell at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (w2LAm)
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I would like to test positive. I want a ticket to be able to say "I had it, and now I'm fine!"
No need to quarantine, no need to avoid getting on a plane or booking a hotel room or visiting elderly family members.
I had the virus, and now I'm cured. Let's get on with living now.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM
I got it, got sick about 2 weeks ago. It's a lot like the flu: massive waves of fatigue, chills, bouts of coughing. I've been getting progressively better. I had influenza back in March: that was far worse than this annoyance.
And, yes, oh yes, do I plan to flout all the present-day dystopian norms once I'm back to my old self. I'm considering printing off a copy of the test results to carry in my pocket. "Look, Karen: I'M IMMUNE!"
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (b3x5S)
Exactly. Get better, and then get on with your life. You're one of the lucky ones.
No need to quarantine, no need to avoid getting on a plane or booking a hotel room or visiting elderly family members.
I had the virus, and now I'm cured. Let's get on with living now.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:18 PM
I got it, got sick about 2 weeks ago. It's a lot like the flu: massive waves of fatigue, chills, bouts of coughing. I've been getting progressively better. I had influenza back in March: that was far worse than this annoyance.
And, yes, oh yes, do I plan to flout all the present-day dystopian norms once I'm back to my old self. I'm considering printing off a copy of the test results to carry in my pocket. "Look, Karen: I'M IMMUNE!"
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (b3x5S)
Exactly. Get better, and then get on with your life. You're one of the lucky ones.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (hku12)
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@mviser 33s
Joe Biden on how he intends to spend his large August fundraising haul: "What I'm having to spend a lot of it on is to counter the lies that are being told by Trump's campaign and swiftboaters out there."
Alllrighty then...
Joe Biden on how he intends to spend his large August fundraising haul: "What I'm having to spend a lot of it on is to counter the lies that are being told by Trump's campaign and swiftboaters out there."
Alllrighty then...
Posted by: Tami at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (cF8AT)
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biden saying he never said he make masks mandated nationally...
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They are in his commercials, You know what, he isn't even in charge
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They are in his commercials, You know what, he isn't even in charge
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (5MsXj)
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Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (b3x5S)
Have you been taking the HCQ cocktail ?
Have you been taking the HCQ cocktail ?
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (2DOZq)
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"He was told by a NYC contact that the situation is much worse than thought and that bodies are being dumped into burial pits.
Where would that come from?"
Because they saw them digging trenches in potter's field, just like they always do, and decided it was for all the Wuflu deaths. It wasn't but they still go with the lie
Where would that come from?"
Because they saw them digging trenches in potter's field, just like they always do, and decided it was for all the Wuflu deaths. It wasn't but they still go with the lie
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (wBc4e)
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Lol. He's being asked by Fox's Peter Doocy why he continued to have crowded campaign rallies after he said he warned Trump in January about the virus.
Ol' Joey is lying his ass off and can't get his dates right.
Ol' Joey is lying his ass off and can't get his dates right.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (ptqGC)
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HOLY CRAP autopsies are now RACIST this is a real article.
AUTOPSIES can Uphold White Supremacy, they know that St Goerge died from a Drug overdose.
https://tinyurl.com/y3qhmx84
AUTOPSIES can Uphold White Supremacy, they know that St Goerge died from a Drug overdose.
https://tinyurl.com/y3qhmx84
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (dKiJG)
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Jesus, I've seen wakes with more energy than this presser.
Posted by: Azathoth at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (MEFZV)
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435 biden saying he never said he make masks mandated nationally...
um yes he fucking did say that!
dexamethasone has worked in double blind studies on people on vents, and has worked somewhat on those needing oxygen support. Why isn't it being used?
I can't say for sure but I know I hated the hell out of taking that for infertility. hopefully therapeutic use for COVID is a lower/shorter dose?
um yes he fucking did say that!
dexamethasone has worked in double blind studies on people on vents, and has worked somewhat on those needing oxygen support. Why isn't it being used?
I can't say for sure but I know I hated the hell out of taking that for infertility. hopefully therapeutic use for COVID is a lower/shorter dose?
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (j9HX3)
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i have a friend who has bought into the fear. He and his wife probably won't go to church until there's a vaccine.
. . .
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020
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For years now my writing group has met at the local Barnes & Noble. I have this horrible vision of my colleagues insisting on the masks even if the state and parish lift their restrictions. Which means I am not going to the group while they do that.
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Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 02, 2020
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For years now my writing group has met at the local Barnes & Noble. I have this horrible vision of my colleagues insisting on the masks even if the state and parish lift their restrictions. Which means I am not going to the group while they do that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 02:00 PM (Ejm1K)
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PT in this case = Physical therapy, you nutters.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (Ejm1K)
I heard that the room where she goes for her treatment is known as PT-109.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (Ejm1K)
I heard that the room where she goes for her treatment is known as PT-109.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 02, 2020 02:00 PM (Kpl3J)
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The Democrats up for re-election up and down the line are going to be crushed. Governors, congresscritters, state house, state senate, mayors, aldermen, town council seats, the whole lot.
I don't believe that. I don't believe it at all.
Perhaps a few local races, but in general, the vast majority of the Dems will be re-elected. Too many people have TDS and also see their dimwit reps and governors as warriors fighting for science against dimwit Drumpf.
Hell, I said two months ago Whitmer will win in a landslide. Said it last weekend at the MoMe. I still say it.
I don't believe that. I don't believe it at all.
Perhaps a few local races, but in general, the vast majority of the Dems will be re-elected. Too many people have TDS and also see their dimwit reps and governors as warriors fighting for science against dimwit Drumpf.
Hell, I said two months ago Whitmer will win in a landslide. Said it last weekend at the MoMe. I still say it.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 02, 2020 02:00 PM (2JVJo)
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Im afraid you may be right... like taking your shoes off at the airport, masks will be here in one form or another for along time.
Posted by: Where are all the sick people at September 02, 2020 02:00 PM (UakdN)
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Trump's campaign and swiftboaters out there."
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Wait, is someone attacking Biden's service in the great war against staffer's vajajays in '06?
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Wait, is someone attacking Biden's service in the great war against staffer's vajajays in '06?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020 02:00 PM (qlFIA)
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399 ... interesting reaction. Probably wouldn't have paid much attention except for contrast between him and Young's nutty green support.
Posted by: brad at September 02, 2020 02:00 PM (75nH5)
462
So, Biden is taking questions from his campaign staff?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 02:00 PM (kA3Cp)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 02, 2020 02:00 PM (jbF6h)
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biden saying he never said he make masks mandated nationally...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (8D42x)
He better pull those ads then because I just saw one this morning with him saying that exact thing.
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (8D42x)
He better pull those ads then because I just saw one this morning with him saying that exact thing.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2020 02:00 PM (K453c)
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Hopefully one thing that comes out of this, it to be allowed to use other drugs that have been on the market for 50 years.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:55 PM (LImvu)
Don't get me started on the character assassination campaign against HCQ simply because Trump mentioned it.
If these people really cared about their fellow man, they would have been hoping for the success of HCQ - has been on the market for decades so has been extensively monitored and studied. It's off patent and so is also cheap and thus would be accessible to the poor and uninsured that they claim to care so much about.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 01:55 PM (LImvu)
Don't get me started on the character assassination campaign against HCQ simply because Trump mentioned it.
If these people really cared about their fellow man, they would have been hoping for the success of HCQ - has been on the market for decades so has been extensively monitored and studied. It's off patent and so is also cheap and thus would be accessible to the poor and uninsured that they claim to care so much about.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at September 02, 2020 02:00 PM (9hauA)
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>>This has all the look and feel of a concession presser - not a campaign event
It's a loser move to show up the day AFTER Trump, since Trump, as president, was able to do things like announce millions in immediate aid to harmed business owners and the police. As the challenger, Biden can't top that offer.
Seems like a rookie mistake. . .
It's a loser move to show up the day AFTER Trump, since Trump, as president, was able to do things like announce millions in immediate aid to harmed business owners and the police. As the challenger, Biden can't top that offer.
Seems like a rookie mistake. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2020 02:01 PM (bDqIh)
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Politico is my go-to source for medical advice.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (yQpMk)
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Almost as good as this place!
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (yQpMk)
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Almost as good as this place!
Posted by: wth at September 02, 2020 02:01 PM (v0R5T)
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So I guess the Gropenfuhrer is having a better day. Is the plan for the Dems to just trot him if he is having a decent day brain-wise?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 02, 2020 02:01 PM (yQpMk)
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427 416 Biden looks ready to quit.
Posted by: Menack at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (buTO7)
Wait until Trump has dragged his retarded old ass around the stage by the short hairs for an hour and a half.
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (o2MD2)
Biden leaned on the podium briefly at least twice. Maybe he was doing it trying to emphasize what he was saying at the time - leaning in I cannot recall any politician doing that before Joe, today. Not even Joe himself. May be nothing, but?
Posted by: Menack at September 02, 2020 01:54 PM (buTO7)
Wait until Trump has dragged his retarded old ass around the stage by the short hairs for an hour and a half.
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (o2MD2)
Biden leaned on the podium briefly at least twice. Maybe he was doing it trying to emphasize what he was saying at the time - leaning in I cannot recall any politician doing that before Joe, today. Not even Joe himself. May be nothing, but?
Posted by: Gref at September 02, 2020 02:01 PM (AMIL/)
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STURGISS
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at September 02, 2020 02:01 PM (CLteG)
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404 374 Is there ANY pandemic that has ever been stopped by a vaccine, or even by quarantine?
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Polio by vaccine
Just imagine how Karens would have handled that prior to the vaccine.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020
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Smallpox, diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (Ejm1K)
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Mumps
Measles
Posted by: Braenyard at September 02, 2020 01:53 PM (SKXSf)
Strangely enough, I don't believe any of those qualify as pandemics - they are epidemics.
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Polio by vaccine
Just imagine how Karens would have handled that prior to the vaccine.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 02, 2020
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Smallpox, diphtheria, pertussis, and tetanus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (Ejm1K)
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Mumps
Measles
Posted by: Braenyard at September 02, 2020 01:53 PM (SKXSf)
Strangely enough, I don't believe any of those qualify as pandemics - they are epidemics.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 02, 2020 02:01 PM (6xA3t)
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sted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (JKNZq)
it is. It was under discussion in the latest med-cram coronavirus update today (led by Dr scheult, a pulmonoligist who treats COVID patients in a hospital/ICU setting.
it is. It was under discussion in the latest med-cram coronavirus update today (led by Dr scheult, a pulmonoligist who treats COVID patients in a hospital/ICU setting.
Posted by: SarahW at September 02, 2020 02:01 PM (g1vnC)
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Darrell, you're not wrong, you're right.
Wildly over-simplified:
- early on, there was panic, it was understandable, it was feared the natural/inevitable epidemic path would involve include fatalities from overwhelmed medical systems, and the radical experiment of "mitigation" was embraced to "flatten the curve" of early, peak acute cases
- with data and experience, it became clear that the mortality, demographic breadth, and acute case load did not justify the "mitigation" measures, which are of unproven value in any case
- Sweden never abandoned the established understanding or accepted practices, took minimal measures, and "let it rip" (to use Trump's very unfortunate and pristinely illiterate formulation)
On vaccines, I am not aware of influenza-like illness (ILI) epidemics that have been eliminated. The "flu shot" is a guess that's formulated every year, and its efficacy is questioned - in any case, it obviously hasn't eliminated ILIs.
Wildly over-simplified:
- early on, there was panic, it was understandable, it was feared the natural/inevitable epidemic path would involve include fatalities from overwhelmed medical systems, and the radical experiment of "mitigation" was embraced to "flatten the curve" of early, peak acute cases
- with data and experience, it became clear that the mortality, demographic breadth, and acute case load did not justify the "mitigation" measures, which are of unproven value in any case
- Sweden never abandoned the established understanding or accepted practices, took minimal measures, and "let it rip" (to use Trump's very unfortunate and pristinely illiterate formulation)
On vaccines, I am not aware of influenza-like illness (ILI) epidemics that have been eliminated. The "flu shot" is a guess that's formulated every year, and its efficacy is questioned - in any case, it obviously hasn't eliminated ILIs.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (OTzUX)
474
TURGID
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (CLteG)
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I'm not sure which doctor you'd like to check for info on dexamethasone, but there are certainly several You Tube videos about it. It's like Remdesivir, in that it seems to have a lower success rate than the drugs they won't use.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (JKNZq)
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I think theres a growing consensus in the population that Trump will forcibly end the lockdown if he wins again because this crap has gone on long enough.
Nobody believes Sundown will end it and return us to normal, he'll have a national mask mandate and force us to stay inside until a cure is found in 10 years.
Advantage: Trump
Nobody believes Sundown will end it and return us to normal, he'll have a national mask mandate and force us to stay inside until a cure is found in 10 years.
Advantage: Trump
Posted by: Two Weeks From Enjoying Gourmet Covfefe With Winston Wolf at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (+dsLj)
477
Because they saw them digging trenches in potter's field, just like they always do, and decided it was for all the Wuflu deaths. It wasn't but they still go with the lie
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (JKNZq)
And it was later revealed that the pictures of those trenches, circulated widely on the net, were actually taken in 2001, shortly after 9/11. They were stock photos.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (JKNZq)
And it was later revealed that the pictures of those trenches, circulated widely on the net, were actually taken in 2001, shortly after 9/11. They were stock photos.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (Kpl3J)
478
The Lord works in mysterious ways, my friends.
Posted by: Archer at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (gmo/4)
479
Gov Abbott is hinting at an announcement next week re re-opening steps, in some future time.
Do it now!
Do it now!
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (DLzZd)
480
I have found an error on the sidebar. In one of the linked pics, LeBron has clearly gotten to page 2.
Another right wing lie exposed.
Another right wing lie exposed.
Posted by: Eeyore at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (7X3UV)
Posted by: Tami at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (cF8AT)
482
If we hadn't had the assinine shutdown for two months, the case numbers we're seeing now ... would've been seen in June and July.
Idiots. All of them.
Idiots. All of them.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (jWe5r)
483
>>Don't get me started on the character assassination campaign against HCQ simply because Trump mentioned it.
Right?
Think it was also that there was no profit in mass producing/prescribing HCQ.
Right?
Think it was also that there was no profit in mass producing/prescribing HCQ.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (bDqIh)
484
Good grief. "Some of the things the president says are simply not true."
Now he's denouncing plasma. What a vile old bastard he is.
Now he's denouncing plasma. What a vile old bastard he is.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (ptqGC)
485
Since asymptomatic transmission is virtually impossible (and this is still possibly finger to mouth or eye infection), it seems pretty dumb to put something on your face that you touch all the time.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (r+sAi)
486
Any of the "reporters" ask Joe about Kamalama's Antifa Bail-out Fund?
Posted by: wth at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (v0R5T)
487
He's run out of script. Word salad coming.
Posted by: itsacookbook at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (yPxXc)
488
One of my friends Dad owns a Funeral home on Long Island. When he left the military he went to mortuary school and went to work there. For 8 weeks straight he didnt have a single non Covid death come through there. Strikes me as suspicious. Almost all 65+. Not one of those old people died of another cause?
Posted by: PUE 206 at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (D/SYi)
489
Somebody should ask Biden "Is it true that you have never said the things that you've said?"
Posted by: irright at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (pMGkg)
490
Too many people are perma-frightened as JJ mentioned. The masks will NEVER go away.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (8B6Ng)
I'll just point out that I, like many Morons here, called this months ago.
Masks are not only the ultimate in virtue signalling, it is a foolproof way for the tinpot Stalins in your neighborhood and government to know who is willing to put their neck on the chopping block.
It doesn't matter whether Teh Donald or Stinkfinger win in November - masks will be a PERMANENT feature of American life from now on.
Hear me now, believe me later.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
I took a mask with the vent, gutted the filter pouch and removed the one way valve on the vent. You can see daylight thru it.
Totally legal. It's a face covering. No, our sheriff said he won't enforce the governor's edict.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 01:47 PM (8B6Ng)
I'll just point out that I, like many Morons here, called this months ago.
Masks are not only the ultimate in virtue signalling, it is a foolproof way for the tinpot Stalins in your neighborhood and government to know who is willing to put their neck on the chopping block.
It doesn't matter whether Teh Donald or Stinkfinger win in November - masks will be a PERMANENT feature of American life from now on.
Hear me now, believe me later.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
I took a mask with the vent, gutted the filter pouch and removed the one way valve on the vent. You can see daylight thru it.
Totally legal. It's a face covering. No, our sheriff said he won't enforce the governor's edict.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (LImvu)
491
It was made in China, you know what their quality control is like.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:33 PM (kA3Cp)
It made for a pretty damned effective hit on the economies of the Western world. Perfect bioweapon. If they had released something that caused mass deaths, they'd likely would have been nuked by at least 4 countries.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2020 01:33 PM (kA3Cp)
It made for a pretty damned effective hit on the economies of the Western world. Perfect bioweapon. If they had released something that caused mass deaths, they'd likely would have been nuked by at least 4 countries.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (mgeLn)
492
For what it's worth, no video at the link, including the "bride's" twatter account. Just a photo. And Ginny seems to be sitting.
So yeah, that's nice. Prop up a dying woman, and tell everyone how "fierce" she is. Fine, don't retire, lady. You'll be dead soon, and you'll have a different judge on your case then.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
********
I saw it on FB early this morning & I thought it was very photoshopped
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (5MsXj)
Yes, there's a photoshoppish look to it.
If these people are trying to prop her up, I guess there's no lengths to which they will do it. Seems awfully low though, to fake one's wedding. It did say these are "friends" of RBG though.
So yeah, that's nice. Prop up a dying woman, and tell everyone how "fierce" she is. Fine, don't retire, lady. You'll be dead soon, and you'll have a different judge on your case then.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 01:41 PM (hku12)
********
I saw it on FB early this morning & I thought it was very photoshopped
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (5MsXj)
Yes, there's a photoshoppish look to it.
If these people are trying to prop her up, I guess there's no lengths to which they will do it. Seems awfully low though, to fake one's wedding. It did say these are "friends" of RBG though.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (hku12)
493
You've seen pictures of her. Well fed? There's no there there. She's a MRCB -Meal Rejected by Cannibal Bob.
Posted by: The Buzzards
:snort!:
Posted by: The Buzzards
:snort!:
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (j3jZX)
494
You can tell when the oatmeal he calls a brain is giving out.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (ptqGC)
495
biden: i never said we need a national mandate.
biden on July 29 in interview with KSNV - Las Vegas
"Reporter: Do we need a national mask mandate?
Biden: I think we do, I think we need... look look there are some places where and when the curve is going down you can begin to loosen things. But, we should have a mask mandate until we get this under control."
That is a direct transcript i JUST made.
I hope to god someone points this out and asks him about his flip between today and a month ago...
biden on July 29 in interview with KSNV - Las Vegas
"Reporter: Do we need a national mask mandate?
Biden: I think we do, I think we need... look look there are some places where and when the curve is going down you can begin to loosen things. But, we should have a mask mandate until we get this under control."
That is a direct transcript i JUST made.
I hope to god someone points this out and asks him about his flip between today and a month ago...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (8D42x)
496
Someone ask Biden if he knows who Gosnell is.
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (wBc4e)
497
Any chance our deep state and dems knew in advance the man made China flu would he coming here?
Posted by: Fortcoins at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (iKoLt)
498
Every president that win re-election does better than his first election. Except oboma. He lost nc and Indiana the second time. So is trump in better shape now than in 2016? Yes! Biden weaker dem, trump economy was awesome. Dems being blamed for riots.
Posted by: Duncan at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (+HZ1v)
499
403 For smallpox, didn't they quarantine the sick, not the healthy?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (9TdxA)
When you lock down the sick it's a quarantine
When you lock down the healthy it's tyranny.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 01:52 PM (9TdxA)
When you lock down the sick it's a quarantine
When you lock down the healthy it's tyranny.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (CzsKO)
500
447 @mviser 33s
Joe Biden on how he intends to spend his large August fundraising haul: "What I'm having to spend a lot of it on is to counter the lies that are being told by Trump's campaign and swiftboaters out there.
Hello....hello...is this thing on. We want our meme back.
Joe Biden on how he intends to spend his large August fundraising haul: "What I'm having to spend a lot of it on is to counter the lies that are being told by Trump's campaign and swiftboaters out there.
Hello....hello...is this thing on. We want our meme back.
Posted by: The year 20000 at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (9dzlp)
501
One of my friends Dad owns a Funeral home on Long Island. When he left the military he went to mortuary school and went to work there. For 8 weeks straight he didnt have a single non Covid death come through there. Strikes me as suspicious. Almost all 65+. Not one of those old people died of another cause?
Posted by: PUE 206
Not when a hospital is being reimbursed from the Fedgov at $13.5k per Covid diagnosis.
Posted by: PUE 206
Not when a hospital is being reimbursed from the Fedgov at $13.5k per Covid diagnosis.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (LImvu)
502
Strangely enough, I don't believe any of those qualify as pandemics - they are epidemics.
====
I see in places Covid referred to as an epidemic then I see it referred to as a pandemic. Didn't the WHO downgrade it from a pandemic awhile ago?
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I see in places Covid referred to as an epidemic then I see it referred to as a pandemic. Didn't the WHO downgrade it from a pandemic awhile ago?
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (IaUhN)
503
In March and April, NYC and NNJ had a really bad
time with the COVID. A particularly virulent strain was moving through
that region. My friend and her BF live in NYC, they knew about 16 people
who died from it.
Posted by: kallisto at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (DJFLF)
....so the death certificate said.
time with the COVID. A particularly virulent strain was moving through
that region. My friend and her BF live in NYC, they knew about 16 people
who died from it.
Posted by: kallisto at September 02, 2020 01:58 PM (DJFLF)
....so the death certificate said.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (mUi0K)
504
Fun stats:
Look at the death rate for Uganda:
https://covid19info.live/uganda/
28 total deaths. They get HCQ over the counter for malaria. But we need those double blind studies! Make sure you give it to people on vents, as a last resort, when you use it.
Look at the death rate for Uganda:
https://covid19info.live/uganda/
28 total deaths. They get HCQ over the counter for malaria. But we need those double blind studies! Make sure you give it to people on vents, as a last resort, when you use it.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: wth at September 02, 2020 02:05 PM (v0R5T)
506
Abbott the Boneless
Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at September 02, 2020 02:05 PM (yQpMk)
507
495 biden: i never said we need a national mandate.
biden on July 29 in interview with KSNV - Las Vegas
"Reporter: Do we need a national mask mandate?
Biden: I think we do, I think we need... look look there are some places where and when the curve is going down you can begin to loosen things. But, we should have a mask mandate until we get this under control."
That is a direct transcript i JUST made.
I hope to god someone points this out and asks him about his flip between today and a month ago...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (8D42x)
=========
He's said so much batshit insane shit during the campaign because his campaign told him to beg the far left for votes that he's going to be backtracking every word he breathed.
They'll still go in ads, though.
biden on July 29 in interview with KSNV - Las Vegas
"Reporter: Do we need a national mask mandate?
Biden: I think we do, I think we need... look look there are some places where and when the curve is going down you can begin to loosen things. But, we should have a mask mandate until we get this under control."
That is a direct transcript i JUST made.
I hope to god someone points this out and asks him about his flip between today and a month ago...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (8D42x)
=========
He's said so much batshit insane shit during the campaign because his campaign told him to beg the far left for votes that he's going to be backtracking every word he breathed.
They'll still go in ads, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, shouting Lawrence! into the desert at September 02, 2020 02:05 PM (UWqZJ)
508
and "let it rip" (to use Trump's very unfortunate and pristinely illiterate formulation)
Posted by: rhomboid at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (OTzUX)
PRISTINELY ILLITERATE? RHOMBOID, ARE YOU DRUNK? WHY AM i YELLING? There, that's better.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (OTzUX)
PRISTINELY ILLITERATE? RHOMBOID, ARE YOU DRUNK? WHY AM i YELLING? There, that's better.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at September 02, 2020 02:05 PM (CLteG)
509
I remember the infamous long line in basic training to get pounded in both arms with vaccine guns. I made the big mistake at the end of the line to ask one of the Petty Officer medics what we were being given, whereby he yelled at me to shut up and keep walking. God only knows 
Posted by: Cheri at September 02, 2020 02:05 PM (oiNtH)
510
It's possible Biden's dementia is an act. Just like that mafia boss.
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 02:06 PM (wBc4e)
511
Fun stats:
Look at the death rate for Uganda:
https://covid19info.live/uganda/
28 total deaths. They get HCQ over the counter for malaria. But we
need those double blind studies! Make sure you give it to people on
vents, as a last resort, when you use it.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (JKNZq)
Trump wants HCQ to be sold here over the counter. I don't see why in the hell not.
Look at the death rate for Uganda:
https://covid19info.live/uganda/
28 total deaths. They get HCQ over the counter for malaria. But we
need those double blind studies! Make sure you give it to people on
vents, as a last resort, when you use it.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (JKNZq)
Trump wants HCQ to be sold here over the counter. I don't see why in the hell not.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2020 02:06 PM (ptqGC)
512
I still see people driving in their cars, by themselves wearing a mask! Stay away from those people.
Word. Anyone wearing a mask outside, period, needs to be beaten with a tire iron.
There are shadows of people who used to have faces, and they shall be shunned. I will not smile or make eye-contact, let alone speak to them.
Posted by: Guy Smiley
I've started openly laughing at them. A guy pulled up next to me at an intersection wearing one a few days ago and I looked at him and just laughed. I try to be a nice person and it's probably a bad idea to mock any stranger in these tense times, but I can't help it anymore.
Word. Anyone wearing a mask outside, period, needs to be beaten with a tire iron.
There are shadows of people who used to have faces, and they shall be shunned. I will not smile or make eye-contact, let alone speak to them.
Posted by: Guy Smiley
I've started openly laughing at them. A guy pulled up next to me at an intersection wearing one a few days ago and I looked at him and just laughed. I try to be a nice person and it's probably a bad idea to mock any stranger in these tense times, but I can't help it anymore.
Posted by: Biergood at September 02, 2020 02:06 PM (FQWHA)
513
Biden has a commercial out saying exactly that. He has a plan!!
Posted by: Cheri at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (oiNtH)
514
496 Someone ask Biden if he knows who Gosnell is.
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (wBc4e)
ouch
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (wBc4e)
ouch
Posted by: itsacookbook at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (yPxXc)
515
I have to admire the quick-thinking of that chick in Arizona.
She was probably planning to cack her husband for months, when Trump talked about HCQ, and then that light-bulb went off. She fed the poor bastard fish tank cleaner, and then loudly blamed Trump in the media.
Bravo. Brilliant.
I have to admire the quick-thinking of that chick in Arizona.
She was probably planning to cack her husband for months, when Trump talked about HCQ, and then that light-bulb went off. She fed the poor bastard fish tank cleaner, and then loudly blamed Trump in the media.
Bravo. Brilliant.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (wzG2V)
516
Just got back from doc's office. No politics entered the discussion and I have no clue what his politics area. He said we're quite close to a vaccine and he was very surprised how fast tracked the entire project has been.
Posted by: RM at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (U3LtS)
517
510 It's possible Biden's dementia is an act. Just like that mafia boss.
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 02:06 PM (wBc4e)
If so, he's an awfully d@mned talented actor.
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 02:06 PM (wBc4e)
If so, he's an awfully d@mned talented actor.
Posted by: Gref at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (AMIL/)
518
One of my friends Dad owns a Funeral home on Long Island. When he left
the military he went to mortuary school and went to work there. For 8
weeks straight he didnt have a single non Covid death come through
there. Strikes me as suspicious. Almost all 65+. Not one of those old
people died of another cause?
Posted by: PUE 206
Yup. I heard a mortician in NY say the same thing. He called the nursing home about it and they said that "they are just assuming everyone in the nursing home has covid."
the military he went to mortuary school and went to work there. For 8
weeks straight he didnt have a single non Covid death come through
there. Strikes me as suspicious. Almost all 65+. Not one of those old
people died of another cause?
Posted by: PUE 206
Yup. I heard a mortician in NY say the same thing. He called the nursing home about it and they said that "they are just assuming everyone in the nursing home has covid."
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (mUi0K)
519
Since asymptomatic transmission is virtually impossible (and this is still possibly finger to mouth or eye infection), it seems pretty dumb to put something on your face that you touch all the time.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
----
I've got an idea! Let's make little kids wear them during school!
Genius!!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
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I've got an idea! Let's make little kids wear them during school!
Genius!!
Posted by: Tonypete at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (Rvt88)
520
510 It's possible Biden's dementia is an act. Just like that mafia boss.
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 02:06 PM (wBc4e)
So, is he trying to get elected or stay out of prison?
Posted by: torabora at September 02, 2020 02:06 PM (wBc4e)
So, is he trying to get elected or stay out of prison?
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (o2MD2)
521
If we hadn't had the assinine shutdown for two months, the case numbers we're seeing now ... would've been seen in June and July.
********************
Not sure about this, the spikes were caused by riots, straight up.
The damage done by Antifa/BLM riding the hysteria of the WOO FUK MAI ASS virus was incalculable.
********************
Not sure about this, the spikes were caused by riots, straight up.
The damage done by Antifa/BLM riding the hysteria of the WOO FUK MAI ASS virus was incalculable.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Enjoying Gourmet Covfefe With Winston Wolf at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (+dsLj)
522
Just when you thought you might sneak a peak at an NFL game. Can't wait for the Super Bowl half time show.
On a conference call on Tuesday, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said the league will imprint "End racism" and "It takes all of us" in the end zones at each stadium during the 2020 season.
The NFL will also allow similar visuals to be worn on player- helmets and as patches on team caps. Players can choose either the name of a victim or one of four pre-approved phrases from the league to display on their helmets or caps: "Stop hate," "It takes all of us," "End racism" or "Black Lives Matter." Coaches and on-field officials may wear the same.
On a conference call on Tuesday, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said the league will imprint "End racism" and "It takes all of us" in the end zones at each stadium during the 2020 season.
The NFL will also allow similar visuals to be worn on player- helmets and as patches on team caps. Players can choose either the name of a victim or one of four pre-approved phrases from the league to display on their helmets or caps: "Stop hate," "It takes all of us," "End racism" or "Black Lives Matter." Coaches and on-field officials may wear the same.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (9TdxA)
523
He's run out of script. Word salad coming.
Posted by: itsacookbook at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (yPxXc)
Every one of his "talks" are between 30-40 minutes, with the sweet spot being around 20. The cocktail begins to wear off after about 30-35 minutes. It starts kicking in after about 7-10. He gets really chatty and animated - it plateaus, and then the crash comes. He starts blinking, and grabbing things.
Posted by: itsacookbook at September 02, 2020 02:03 PM (yPxXc)
Every one of his "talks" are between 30-40 minutes, with the sweet spot being around 20. The cocktail begins to wear off after about 30-35 minutes. It starts kicking in after about 7-10. He gets really chatty and animated - it plateaus, and then the crash comes. He starts blinking, and grabbing things.
Posted by: clutch cargo at September 02, 2020 02:08 PM (8B6Ng)
524
HOLY CRAP autopsies are now RACIST this is a real article.
AUTOPSIES can Uphold White Supremacy, they know that St Goerge died from a Drug overdose.
https://tinyurl.com/y3qhmx84
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
Seems like I'm saying it every day but that is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
AUTOPSIES can Uphold White Supremacy, they know that St Goerge died from a Drug overdose.
https://tinyurl.com/y3qhmx84
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
Seems like I'm saying it every day but that is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 02, 2020 02:08 PM (+y/Ru)
525
Researchers from Brazil found that individuals who ignore rules on
wearing facemasks are "more likely to have malevolent sociopathic
traits,"
No mask. Not ever.
I will not wear one in the stores,
I will not wear one doing chores.
I will not wear one in a tree,
You really best not fuck with me.
wearing facemasks are "more likely to have malevolent sociopathic
traits,"
No mask. Not ever.
I will not wear one in the stores,
I will not wear one doing chores.
I will not wear one in a tree,
You really best not fuck with me.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 02, 2020 02:08 PM (5bg3W)
Posted by: Tonypete at September 02, 2020 02:08 PM (Rvt88)
527
Okay - this presser with Punchy is off the charts bizarre - with campaign staffers picking - err people - to ask - err questions kind of - and Joe reading a response down on the podium. No one has asked a policy question yet or anything about Joe's idea of what he intends to do if elected really.
This is all just to show that Joe can still stand up and interact with campaign aids...
This is all just to show that Joe can still stand up and interact with campaign aids...
Posted by: Boswell at September 02, 2020 02:08 PM (w2LAm)
528
Biden has a commercial out saying exactly that. He has a plan!!
Posted by: Cheri at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (oiNtH)
Build Back Better: The same thing as MAGA only better (also not racist)!!!
Posted by: Cheri at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM (oiNtH)
Build Back Better: The same thing as MAGA only better (also not racist)!!!
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at September 02, 2020 02:09 PM (K453c)
529
One of my friends Dad owns a Funeral home on Long Island. When he left the military he went to mortuary school and went to work there. For 8 weeks straight he didnt have a single non Covid death come through there. Strikes me as suspicious. Almost all 65+. Not one of those old people died of another cause?
Posted by: PUE 206
Not when a hospital is being reimbursed from the Fedgov at $13.5k per Covid diagnosis.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (LImvu)
We should really be thanking the Chinese.
For years we had our best scientists working on cures for cancer, heart disease, diabetes, other infectious diseases... heck even murder, suicide, and motorcycle accidents!
But here we are, the Covids came along, and bing bang boom! All those things cease to kill anybody.
Posted by: PUE 206
Not when a hospital is being reimbursed from the Fedgov at $13.5k per Covid diagnosis.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (LImvu)
We should really be thanking the Chinese.
For years we had our best scientists working on cures for cancer, heart disease, diabetes, other infectious diseases... heck even murder, suicide, and motorcycle accidents!
But here we are, the Covids came along, and bing bang boom! All those things cease to kill anybody.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 02, 2020 02:09 PM (hku12)
530
noood
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 02, 2020 02:09 PM (rjE57)
531
Trump wants HCQ to be sold here over the counter. I don't see why in the hell not.
It kills a few people. Safer than Tylenol though. Tylenol would be a prescription medicine if brought to the market today.
It kills a few people. Safer than Tylenol though. Tylenol would be a prescription medicine if brought to the market today.
Posted by: Viron Con Dios at September 02, 2020 02:09 PM (d6DSt)
532
I don't believe that. I don't believe it at all.
Perhaps a few local races, but in general, the vast majority of the
Dems will be re-elected. Too many people have TDS and also see their
dimwit reps and governors as warriors fighting for science against
dimwit Drumpf.
Hell, I said two months ago Whitmer will win in a landslide. Said it last weekend at the MoMe. I still say it. posted by MPPPP.
============================
It's going to be turnout. The anti-Dem fervor is real and it is growing. The intensity is something to behold. I've seen men and women who never cared about politics discuss their personal trials from this 2020 Dem-caused bullshit through clenched teeth. Not so much anecdotal, either. As for Whitmer, she isn't up for reelection until 2022, right?
Perhaps a few local races, but in general, the vast majority of the
Dems will be re-elected. Too many people have TDS and also see their
dimwit reps and governors as warriors fighting for science against
dimwit Drumpf.
Hell, I said two months ago Whitmer will win in a landslide. Said it last weekend at the MoMe. I still say it. posted by MPPPP.
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It's going to be turnout. The anti-Dem fervor is real and it is growing. The intensity is something to behold. I've seen men and women who never cared about politics discuss their personal trials from this 2020 Dem-caused bullshit through clenched teeth. Not so much anecdotal, either. As for Whitmer, she isn't up for reelection until 2022, right?
Posted by: mrp at September 02, 2020 02:09 PM (Pqytn)
533
I've started openly laughing at them. A guy pulled
up next to me at an intersection wearing one a few days ago and I looked
at him and just laughed. I try to be a nice person and it's probably a
bad idea to mock any stranger in these tense times, but I can't help it
anymore.
Posted by: Biergood at September 02, 2020 02:06 PM (FQWHA)
coming back from MOME on plane a couple in their 40's. They had masks, goggles, AND a plastic shield. What is going on in their head!?
up next to me at an intersection wearing one a few days ago and I looked
at him and just laughed. I try to be a nice person and it's probably a
bad idea to mock any stranger in these tense times, but I can't help it
anymore.
Posted by: Biergood at September 02, 2020 02:06 PM (FQWHA)
coming back from MOME on plane a couple in their 40's. They had masks, goggles, AND a plastic shield. What is going on in their head!?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 02, 2020 02:09 PM (mUi0K)
534
what campaign wizard thought this was a good idea? Its an unmitigated disaster.
Joe Biden came out swinging at Trump today with vim, verve and vigor. He was at the top of his intellect and the picture of health as he gave a robust plan to cure the virus and get everybody back to normal, all while showing his deep empathy for blacks in America.
Joe Biden came out swinging at Trump today with vim, verve and vigor. He was at the top of his intellect and the picture of health as he gave a robust plan to cure the virus and get everybody back to normal, all while showing his deep empathy for blacks in America.
Posted by: Teh MSM at September 02, 2020 02:09 PM (r+sAi)
535
We have decided to price remdesivir well below this value. To ensure broad and equitable access at a time of urgent
global need, we have set a price for governments of developed countries of $390 per vial. Based on current treatment
patterns, the vast majority of patients are expected to receive a 5-day treatment course using 6 vials of
remdesivir, which equates to $2,340 per patient.
Open letter from Gilead President regarding Remdesivir pricing.
global need, we have set a price for governments of developed countries of $390 per vial. Based on current treatment
patterns, the vast majority of patients are expected to receive a 5-day treatment course using 6 vials of
remdesivir, which equates to $2,340 per patient.
Open letter from Gilead President regarding Remdesivir pricing.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at September 02, 2020 02:10 PM (5bg3W)
536
HOLY CRAP autopsies are now RACIST this is a real article.
AUTOPSIES can Uphold White Supremacy, they know that St Goerge died from a Drug overdose.
https://tinyurl.com/y3qhmx84
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (dKiJG)
Wait - I thought whites were fragile. What gives?
AUTOPSIES can Uphold White Supremacy, they know that St Goerge died from a Drug overdose.
https://tinyurl.com/y3qhmx84
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM (dKiJG)
Wait - I thought whites were fragile. What gives?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 02, 2020 02:11 PM (YqDXo)
537
Have you been taking the HCQ cocktail ?
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM
This is honestly nothing on the influenza (yes, I get the vaccine every single year) that floored me at the start of March. So far my doc has given me no prescription medication: my symptoms haven't been anything that can't be dealt with via the occasional afternoon nap and some Nyquil before bedtime. That was only because the first 4-5 days I was coughing a lot and the Nyquil made it easier for me and the missus to both get to sleep.
Have you been taking the HCQ cocktail ?
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 02, 2020 01:59 PM
This is honestly nothing on the influenza (yes, I get the vaccine every single year) that floored me at the start of March. So far my doc has given me no prescription medication: my symptoms haven't been anything that can't be dealt with via the occasional afternoon nap and some Nyquil before bedtime. That was only because the first 4-5 days I was coughing a lot and the Nyquil made it easier for me and the missus to both get to sleep.
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at September 02, 2020 02:12 PM (b3x5S)
538
479 Gov Abbott is hinting at an announcement next week re re-opening steps, in some future time.
Do it now!
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (DLzZd)
He needs to man up, overall.
And he needs to neuter the county commandantes.
Do it now!
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 02, 2020 02:02 PM (DLzZd)
He needs to man up, overall.
And he needs to neuter the county commandantes.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 02, 2020 02:12 PM (SKXSf)
539
coming back from MOME on plane a couple in their 40's. They had masks, goggles, AND a plastic shield. What is going on in their head!?
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Meanwhile, he's cheating on her with prostitutes...
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Meanwhile, he's cheating on her with prostitutes...
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 02, 2020 02:12 PM (vg8iE)
540
Thanks to Muslim paranoia about vaccination in West Africa and Pakistan, there are still human cases of polio. Their imams preach that it's a plot to make them sterile, like the penis-melting Zionist hair combs. To save their dicks, the locals murder vaccination teams. Polio can't be made extinct like smallpox was, because of them.
Every year the infected bumpkins redistribute it amongst their Muslim brothers and sisters at the Haj.
Given that the Democrats' good friends and allies "The Muslims" have labored long and hard to preserve this organization from extinction, and the CCP Wuhan Flu scam is getting threadbare, now would be an excellent time for some Democrat operatives to reintroduce polio into this country.
Trump's fault, of course. He's paralyzing your children.
Thanks to Muslim paranoia about vaccination in West Africa and Pakistan, there are still human cases of polio. Their imams preach that it's a plot to make them sterile, like the penis-melting Zionist hair combs. To save their dicks, the locals murder vaccination teams. Polio can't be made extinct like smallpox was, because of them.
Every year the infected bumpkins redistribute it amongst their Muslim brothers and sisters at the Haj.
Given that the Democrats' good friends and allies "The Muslims" have labored long and hard to preserve this organization from extinction, and the CCP Wuhan Flu scam is getting threadbare, now would be an excellent time for some Democrat operatives to reintroduce polio into this country.
Trump's fault, of course. He's paralyzing your children.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 02, 2020 02:13 PM (zdKqH)
541
>> I still see people driving in their cars, by themselves wearing a mask! Stay away from those people.
In Instagram feed for my son's school is posting a ton of pictures from the first week of school -- a lot of them are of student athletes, socially distanced, working out outside wearing masks. Gah!! Let the d@mn kids breath!!
In Instagram feed for my son's school is posting a ton of pictures from the first week of school -- a lot of them are of student athletes, socially distanced, working out outside wearing masks. Gah!! Let the d@mn kids breath!!
Posted by: Lizzy at September 02, 2020 02:13 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Don Lemonparty at September 02, 2020 02:14 PM (GhrX3)
543
One of my friends Dad owns a Funeral home on Long Island. When he left
the military he went to mortuary school and went to work there. For 8
weeks straight he didnt have a single non Covid death come through
there. Strikes me as suspicious. Almost all 65+. Not one of those old
people died of another cause?
Posted by: PUE 206
Yup. I heard a mortician in NY say the same thing. He called the nursing home about it and they said that "they are just assuming everyone in the nursing home has covid."
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM
And yet the mortuary and funeral homes don't treat the bodies differently. Strange for a pandemic.
Also where are the biohazard waste boxes for all our used masks? We take them off and the COVID disappears as if by magic?
the military he went to mortuary school and went to work there. For 8
weeks straight he didnt have a single non Covid death come through
there. Strikes me as suspicious. Almost all 65+. Not one of those old
people died of another cause?
Posted by: PUE 206
Yup. I heard a mortician in NY say the same thing. He called the nursing home about it and they said that "they are just assuming everyone in the nursing home has covid."
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at September 02, 2020 02:07 PM
And yet the mortuary and funeral homes don't treat the bodies differently. Strange for a pandemic.
Also where are the biohazard waste boxes for all our used masks? We take them off and the COVID disappears as if by magic?
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at September 02, 2020 02:14 PM (j3jZX)
544
Not when a hospital is being reimbursed from the Fedgov at $13.5k per Covid diagnosis.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (LImvu)
The Medicare/Medicaid contract billing investigator that lives next door here in NC says the hospital gets 3 times that for a Covid death. Funny thing is he is from Long Island and says all his family was buried by my buddys family funeral home.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (LImvu)
The Medicare/Medicaid contract billing investigator that lives next door here in NC says the hospital gets 3 times that for a Covid death. Funny thing is he is from Long Island and says all his family was buried by my buddys family funeral home.
Posted by: PUE 206 at September 02, 2020 02:15 PM (D/SYi)
545
Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 02, 2020 01:56 PM (2DOZq
Fair enough, but I thought I was all better, except for a little shortness of breath I assumed would improve with activity. And it sort of did., until it didn't. mostly I've been brushing it off and just going about my business. Herea's what's different, and has been getting more different - my heart rate is too fast, It's not in "get to ER" mode, but I have near constant moderate tachycardia. This means my heart is working hard, and maybe not sending out as much blood as it should with each pump. INhave chest heaviness and constant migraines. I have suddenly acquired a (thought to be benign and selfish-limiting) inflammatory vascular condition called Auchenbach's syndrome. It looks a good deal like the infamous "COVID toes" syndrome. So, possibly not related a bit, nd I don't even know, and will never know, if I had COVID in the first place. I only suspect. I
Fair enough, but I thought I was all better, except for a little shortness of breath I assumed would improve with activity. And it sort of did., until it didn't. mostly I've been brushing it off and just going about my business. Herea's what's different, and has been getting more different - my heart rate is too fast, It's not in "get to ER" mode, but I have near constant moderate tachycardia. This means my heart is working hard, and maybe not sending out as much blood as it should with each pump. INhave chest heaviness and constant migraines. I have suddenly acquired a (thought to be benign and selfish-limiting) inflammatory vascular condition called Auchenbach's syndrome. It looks a good deal like the infamous "COVID toes" syndrome. So, possibly not related a bit, nd I don't even know, and will never know, if I had COVID in the first place. I only suspect. I
Posted by: SarahW at September 02, 2020 02:16 PM (g1vnC)
546
Has anybody dealt with an on-line outfit called WinRed? I set out to make a donation to Trump and they ended up handling it. They appear to be insistent and tricky, not to be trusted. I'm thinking of cancelling the donation and starting over.
Any info on them?
Has anybody dealt with an on-line outfit called WinRed? I set out to make a donation to Trump and they ended up handling it. They appear to be insistent and tricky, not to be trusted. I'm thinking of cancelling the donation and starting over.
Any info on them?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 02, 2020 02:16 PM (zdKqH)
547
Even by the usual low Leftist standards, this Politico effort is pretty lame.
Posted by: RalphF at September 02, 2020 02:17 PM (+3O5L)
548
But since the cops are trying not to be racist now, I guess we're just going to ignore a bunch of black people riding around on (not street legal) dirt bikes and ATVs, terrorizing everyone, and doing incredibly dangerous shit like doing wheelies on a dirtbike at 60 mph down the west side highway
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (cnTJD)
Meh, biggest danger is to themselves.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (cnTJD)
Meh, biggest danger is to themselves.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 02, 2020 02:17 PM (u1ppQ)
549
504 Fun stats:
Look at the death rate for Uganda:
https://covid19info.live/uganda/
28 total deaths. They get HCQ over the counter for malaria. But we need those double blind studies! Make sure you give it to people on vents, as a last resort, when you use it.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (JKNZq)
If I don't trust data from first world countries, I'm sure not trusting data from third world countries.
They have enough problems with diseases that are endemic to their area, I'm pretty sure WhuFLu is not high on their list of things they "track".
Look at the death rate for Uganda:
https://covid19info.live/uganda/
28 total deaths. They get HCQ over the counter for malaria. But we need those double blind studies! Make sure you give it to people on vents, as a last resort, when you use it.
Posted by: notsothoreau at September 02, 2020 02:04 PM (JKNZq)
If I don't trust data from first world countries, I'm sure not trusting data from third world countries.
They have enough problems with diseases that are endemic to their area, I'm pretty sure WhuFLu is not high on their list of things they "track".
Posted by: browndog at September 02, 2020 02:23 PM (BgMrQ)
550
But since the cops are trying not to be racist now, I guess we're just going to ignore a bunch of black people riding around on (not street legal) dirt bikes and ATVs, terrorizing everyone, and doing incredibly dangerous shit like doing wheelies on a dirtbike at 60 mph down the west side highway
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (cnTJD)
Meh, biggest danger is to themselves.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 02, 2020 02:17 PM
yeah, but let one of those asshoes wipe out in front of you & you run them over, or they crash in to you
guess who gets blamed & who the mob wants to lynch
But since the cops are trying not to be racist now, I guess we're just going to ignore a bunch of black people riding around on (not street legal) dirt bikes and ATVs, terrorizing everyone, and doing incredibly dangerous shit like doing wheelies on a dirtbike at 60 mph down the west side highway
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at September 02, 2020 01:49 PM (cnTJD)
Meh, biggest danger is to themselves.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 02, 2020 02:17 PM
yeah, but let one of those asshoes wipe out in front of you & you run them over, or they crash in to you
guess who gets blamed & who the mob wants to lynch
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 02, 2020 02:26 PM (SaWys)
551
"They decide to, um, prove that falling infection rates are just a mirage -"
Is that the same "mirage" that has President Trump winning the election by a landslide?
Is that the same "mirage" that has President Trump winning the election by a landslide?
Posted by: Jane at September 02, 2020 02:51 PM (cyRVk)
552
My grandson at a small Eastern college is confined to his room because 32/2200 students have tested positive...without symptoms
Posted by: Jane at September 02, 2020 02:54 PM (cyRVk)
553
The University of Alabama has about 1300 reported WuHu cases. Zero hospitalizations. Zero.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM
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That can't be right because this is the biggest story in the local newspaper.
In San Francisco. Nothing to report locally I guess.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at September 02, 2020 01:13 PM
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That can't be right because this is the biggest story in the local newspaper.
In San Francisco. Nothing to report locally I guess.
Posted by: East Bay Jay at September 02, 2020 02:54 PM (DePyg)
554
The deer are back, grazing through the front yard. They don't know about COVID, Joe Biden or Emmett Sullivan.
Lucky deer.
Lucky deer.
Posted by: creeper at September 02, 2020 02:55 PM (XxJt1)
555
NOOD
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