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Joe Biden Ahead of Trump in Pennsylvania
...Barely
Actually, they're statistically tied.
As Democrat Joe Biden formally accepts his party’s presidential nomination, a Morning Call/Muhlenberg College poll shows him with a narrow lead over Republican President Donald Trump in the key battleground state of Pennsylvania. Biden drew support from 49% of likely state voters and 45% backed Trump, when those leaning toward a particular candidate were included. That four-point gap is within the poll's margin of error.I don't know why this report says Biden is "ahead" when this lead is within the margin of error -- that means they're statistically tied. Oh that's right, I know why: Because the left is insane and can't admit Trump might win, so they're making themselves another Hugbox Bubble of Fake News where the Bad Orange Man can never win.
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:35 PM (UWqZJ)
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well...
Anyway, polls tightening as we get into the actual election season?
Weird. That's never happened before ever.
Anyway, polls tightening as we get into the actual election season?
Weird. That's never happened before ever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:35 PM (UWqZJ)
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Present
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2020 12:35 PM (3H9h1)
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Biden went from being up +17 in Minnesota back in June to TIED with Trump in mid-August.
If Slow Joe cannot carry blue Minnesota there is no way he is taking Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
If Slow Joe cannot carry blue Minnesota there is no way he is taking Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
Posted by: Nevyan at August 21, 2020 12:35 PM (a7HML)
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Clinton was ahead too, IIRC
Posted by: CN at August 21, 2020 12:36 PM (ONvIw)
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Ace also rises..
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 21, 2020 12:36 PM (yQpMk)
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If the election is at all close, the winner will be finally determined when John Roberts casts his vote for Joe Biden.
Biden wins, 5-4.
Biden wins, 5-4.
Posted by: The ARC Of History! at August 21, 2020 12:36 PM (I2/tG)
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I wouldn't touch Biden
Posted by: 10-foot poll at August 21, 2020 12:36 PM (lSZIs)
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Weird. That's never happened before ever.
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Well to be fair, it IS rare, so rare that it's been 4 years since the last time that happened.
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Well to be fair, it IS rare, so rare that it's been 4 years since the last time that happened.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (+dsLj)
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Didn't the pillow guy promise to deliver Minnesota to Trump?
Posted by: Swallow the Rabbit Whole at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (DB16e)
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Early night.
Posted by: BignJames at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (X/Pw5)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (vf0Uk)
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But, but...this is before Mush Brain's speech last night?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (2O5Io)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (s2VJv)
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9 Weird. That's never happened before ever.
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Well to be fair, it IS rare, so rare that it's been 4 years since the last time that happened.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (+dsLj)
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My memory starts from this morning, so it's a surprise to me!
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Well to be fair, it IS rare, so rare that it's been 4 years since the last time that happened.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (+dsLj)
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My memory starts from this morning, so it's a surprise to me!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (UWqZJ)
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Voter fraud is the only way Biden wins PA.
Posted by: Brown Hornet at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (l7udz)
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Biden will regain the lead after his magnificent speech.
Posted by: Hugbox Bubble at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (aKsyK)
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Joe's ahead, BUT He is really behind
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (Gg011)
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and so it begins
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (yQpMk)
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A 4% margin of error is quite large and that poll should've been laughed out of the room.
Polls are for strippers.
Polls are for strippers.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (vf0Uk)
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Funny that the polls are closing so early, isn't it?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (oVJmc)
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There's actually a long human history of mass delusions and hysterias. It's getting longer.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (EZebt)
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I've seen this movie before
Posted by: jsg at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (Yr7T6)
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Some guy in the previous thread tells me this is all a waste of time based on some mysterious algorithm he has.
Either the trolls are getting more devious or this is turning into another dumping ground for no-thoughts.
Either the trolls are getting more devious or this is turning into another dumping ground for no-thoughts.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (2BgZB)
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Gonna be an early night.
The walls are closing in.
No path to 270.
Pay no attention to the cabal behind the curtain.
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Polls are shit.
The walls are closing in.
No path to 270.
Pay no attention to the cabal behind the curtain.
- - -
Polls are shit.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (NiXyF)
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Trump has no path. No path.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (Xz7Fn)
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Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (s2VJv)
*******
Where's TurK when you need him
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Where's TurK when you need him
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (Gg011)
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And when election day comes and President Trump is re-elected, that delusion bubble is going to pop. And the results will not be pretty. This summer was just a preview folks. Get ready for riots.
Posted by: Zaklog the Great at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (Yi+tZ)
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Pro Mask
anti-gun
Anti-coal
Pro-china
Pro-Ukraine cash
Im Jill Biden and I'm running for President.
anti-gun
Anti-coal
Pro-china
Pro-Ukraine cash
Im Jill Biden and I'm running for President.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (2O5Io)
Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (HEEq1)
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In order to prove he's physically able to carry out the duties of a President, Biden went out to a ball game. It did not go well. Also, he needs to be more targeted in where he applies his minoxidil.
https://tinyurl.com/y3unwbwd
https://tinyurl.com/y3unwbwd
Posted by: pep at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (v16oJ)
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I'd be worried if the media was saying Trump's going to win since they're wrong about everything.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (Xz7Fn)
Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (HEEq1)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (ifmtJ)
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The stock market clearly thinks that Trump is going to win.
Posted by: The ARC Of History! at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (I2/tG)
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Reuters/Harris poll has Hillary with a 99.4% chance of winning.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (vf0Uk)
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The democrats are clearly shrieking out of their fucking minds and going full leftist version of Alex Jones with the post office because Biden is just so far ahead in the polls you know.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (+dsLj)
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Ya know...some enterprising Moron could clean up selling Depends & Valu-rite vodka outside DNC HQ. 
Posted by: CPT. Charles at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (W+kMI)
Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (8ft+D)
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Turnout is key and there is probably a huge enthusiasm gap.
Mainstream D's that won't vote Trump may stay home, because they refuse to vote Biden.
I want to know what excuse D's are going to use if turnout is outside the margin of cheat?
Mainstream D's that won't vote Trump may stay home, because they refuse to vote Biden.
I want to know what excuse D's are going to use if turnout is outside the margin of cheat?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (WEBkv)
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36 Reuters/Harris poll has Hillary with a 99.4% chance of winning.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (vf0Uk)
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HA! Still would like to have seen her face early in the evening when she figured out she was going to lose.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (vf0Uk)
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HA! Still would like to have seen her face early in the evening when she figured out she was going to lose.
Posted by: Seems Legit at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (jUVms)
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A poll with that big a margin of error is even crappier than regular polls. That's like polling a bunch of high school girls about what a bitch Megan Cooper is after she started dating the football captain.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (KZzsI)
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OK, LAST election there was a very consistent 6% polling error due to people not wanting to publicly say they support Trump.
Now? That % is MUCH higher, as its actually dangerous to say you support Trump in many places.
I'd premise that the poll is at LEAST 10% off, in Trump's favor.
Now? That % is MUCH higher, as its actually dangerous to say you support Trump in many places.
I'd premise that the poll is at LEAST 10% off, in Trump's favor.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (NgKpN)
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Polls are shit.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (NiXyF)
In early with a possible Thread Winner.
Polls are shit.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (NiXyF)
In early with a possible Thread Winner.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (vf0Uk)
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Why am I not fifty points ahead, you may ask?
Posted by: Joe Biden's Spinning Pupils at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (oVJmc)
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Ah the hugbox...too bad about Metokur. He could have been a Contender.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (ifmtJ)
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Money Plane.
Posted by: The Rumble at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (KTq2u)
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The democrats' voting strength is in Philadelphia. Where have the PA riots been again?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (kA3Cp)
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I wish we had a media that could ask Cuteists fan Biden how in the fucking hell he would enforce a national mask mandate.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (+dsLj)
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OK, LAST election there was a very consistent 6% polling error due to people not wanting to publicly say they support Trump.
Now? That % is MUCH higher, as its actually dangerous to say you support Trump in many places.
I'd premise that the poll is at LEAST 10% off, in Trump's favor.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (NgKpN)
*******
YEP
Now? That % is MUCH higher, as its actually dangerous to say you support Trump in many places.
I'd premise that the poll is at LEAST 10% off, in Trump's favor.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (NgKpN)
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YEP
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (Gg011)
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40 Turnout is key and there is probably a huge enthusiasm gap.
Mainstream D's that won't vote Trump may stay home, because they refuse to vote Biden.
I want to know what excuse D's are going to use if turnout is outside the margin of cheat?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (WEBkv)
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And they're giving up some of the key tools of the convention by having it completely digital. It's a party for your biggest supporters, and they're all stuck at home in Zoom meetings.
This is supposed to be the massive dose of cocaine you give your people to get them through the next 2-3 months, and they provided them Valium instead.
Mainstream D's that won't vote Trump may stay home, because they refuse to vote Biden.
I want to know what excuse D's are going to use if turnout is outside the margin of cheat?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (WEBkv)
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And they're giving up some of the key tools of the convention by having it completely digital. It's a party for your biggest supporters, and they're all stuck at home in Zoom meetings.
This is supposed to be the massive dose of cocaine you give your people to get them through the next 2-3 months, and they provided them Valium instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (UWqZJ)
Posted by: Agent Cooper at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (Dc5Qe)
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39 5.5 MOE is very high.
Way too small of a sample.
Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (8ft+D)
Same with 5.5 MOA
*shudder*
Way too small of a sample.
Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2020 12:39 PM (8ft+D)
Same with 5.5 MOA
*shudder*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (ifmtJ)
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The same pollster's final PA poll in 2016 had Clinton winning by six points.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (xPl2J)
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Voter fraud is the only way Biden wins PA.
Posted by: Brown Hornet
We are ready, willing and able!!!
Posted by: Brown Hornet
We are ready, willing and able!!!
Posted by: Pittsburgh and Philadelphia at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (l4D6Z)
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It's not support for Bidet, but rather, a hard-core, rabid anyone-but-Trump bloc. I want to see these asshoes get everything they've got coming good and hard.
Posted by: Old Dude at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (LGXGf)
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A PA win for Trump would smell like victory to me!
But damn.. it is just too close..
I love seeing the crowds he brings out.. but if he can win PA and FL it will hopefully be an early evening on election night.. Arizona also worries me this year.. McSally is a poor Senate candidate against Mark Kelly.. and AZ has certainly gone lefty in recent years.. That race alone may bring out Dem voters..
But damn.. it is just too close..
I love seeing the crowds he brings out.. but if he can win PA and FL it will hopefully be an early evening on election night.. Arizona also worries me this year.. McSally is a poor Senate candidate against Mark Kelly.. and AZ has certainly gone lefty in recent years.. That race alone may bring out Dem voters..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 12:42 PM (CjFDo)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 21, 2020 12:42 PM (ifmtJ)
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Stock up and prepare for those November riots now...
Posted by: brak at August 21, 2020 12:42 PM (cG+eD)
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Polls are bullshit. Most people screen their calls and don't answer and many will lie just skew the polls. 
Posted by: Anderson's Pooper at August 21, 2020 12:42 PM (6p/Y6)
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Since 2016, Republicans have added a net 165,000 new voters in PA. Democrats have added a net 30,000.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 12:42 PM (ZLI7S)
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The thing to look at is where are the lawyers setting up shop. What states? Democratic aligned lawyers or Republican lawyers?
That's where the battle(s) will be after election night.
The stupid party would be well advised to start battlespace prep now...
That's where the battle(s) will be after election night.
The stupid party would be well advised to start battlespace prep now...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2020 12:42 PM (3H9h1)
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49 I wish we had a media that could ask Cuteists fan Biden how in the fucking hell he would enforce a national mask mandate.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (+dsLj)
By starting a new Federal Agency.
The United States Dept of Interior Karens Divison
DIKD for short.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (+dsLj)
By starting a new Federal Agency.
The United States Dept of Interior Karens Divison
DIKD for short.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:42 PM (2O5Io)
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Chris Plante the other day when HRC spoke, said she had a Linoleum pattern mark on the side of her face still ! hahahahah thank God I didn't have a mouthful of Coffee
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at August 21, 2020 12:42 PM (Gg011)
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We are ready, willing and able!!!
Posted by: Pittsburgh and Philadelphia at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (l4D6Z)
But you will blow me first.
We are ready, willing and able!!!
Posted by: Pittsburgh and Philadelphia at August 21, 2020 12:41 PM (l4D6Z)
But you will blow me first.
Posted by: Harrisburg at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (vf0Uk)
Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (8ft+D)
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Suing the NRA will boost Joe Hidin' by 1000% in PA!!
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (aO8Gd)
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The BBC did one of those what I thought was going to be propaganda pieces where they have three Biden voters and one Trump voter watch Biden's speech and give their assessments in real time. I was certain it was going to be a plant fake Trump voter who was going to say, "Gee, now that I hear Biden, I'm voting for him!"
But actually I was surprised: All three Biden voters basically said, "Damn, that speech was boring and totally vague. I'm still voting for him, but I was not impressed in the slightest," while the Trump voter held firm and said that speech was pointless and his mind hadn't been changed:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-53853387/ joe-biden-s-speech-lots-of-sweetness-and-light
But actually I was surprised: All three Biden voters basically said, "Damn, that speech was boring and totally vague. I'm still voting for him, but I was not impressed in the slightest," while the Trump voter held firm and said that speech was pointless and his mind hadn't been changed:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-53853387/ joe-biden-s-speech-lots-of-sweetness-and-light
Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (HEEq1)
69
McSally is a poor Senate candidate against Mark Kelly
The good news is that this would be her last campaign. She just doesn't have what it takes.
The good news is that this would be her last campaign. She just doesn't have what it takes.
Posted by: pep at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (v16oJ)
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To repeat an old mantra, I don't believe any polls this cycle. Not the ones against us, not the ones that look good. I think polling is broken.
having said that, I also don't think the Convention did them any favors. Only a handful of people in DC watched Joe's "powerful!!!!" speech, and Kamala is a big nothing.
I continue to be surprised, when talking to people I know personally, how many say that they have turned off all news, stopped reading all papers, cut off any of the input from anywhere. They perceive it as all crap, and they don't want to hear any of it anymore. I would say that among my personal acquaintances, a clear majority now fall into this category.
having said that, I also don't think the Convention did them any favors. Only a handful of people in DC watched Joe's "powerful!!!!" speech, and Kamala is a big nothing.
I continue to be surprised, when talking to people I know personally, how many say that they have turned off all news, stopped reading all papers, cut off any of the input from anywhere. They perceive it as all crap, and they don't want to hear any of it anymore. I would say that among my personal acquaintances, a clear majority now fall into this category.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (Kpl3J)
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The only *poll* that matters is the Nov 3 *poll* and even that one, if the liberals have their way, might be delayed.
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (gtatv)
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Stock up and prepare for those November riots now...Posted by: brak at August 21, 2020 12:42 PM (cG+eD)***
Been doing exactly that for some time now.
Been doing exactly that for some time now.
Posted by: Old Dude at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (LGXGf)
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I wish we had a media that could ask Cuteists fan Biden how in the fucking hell he would enforce a national mask mandate.
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We stand ready to assist.
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We stand ready to assist.
Posted by: Corrupt, Shitbag FBI at August 21, 2020 12:44 PM (vg8iE)
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68 The BBC did one of those what I thought was going to be propaganda pieces where they have three Biden voters and one Trump voter watch Biden's speech and give their assessments in real time. I was certain it was going to be a plant fake Trump voter who was going to say, "Gee, now that I hear Biden, I'm voting for him!"
But actually I was surprised: All three Biden voters basically said, "Damn, that speech was boring and totally vague. I'm still voting for him, but I was not impressed in the slightest," while the Trump voter held firm and said that speech was pointless and his mind hadn't been changed:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-53853387/
joe-biden-s-speech-lots-of-sweetness-and-light
Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (HEEq1)
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This entertains me.
But actually I was surprised: All three Biden voters basically said, "Damn, that speech was boring and totally vague. I'm still voting for him, but I was not impressed in the slightest," while the Trump voter held firm and said that speech was pointless and his mind hadn't been changed:
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-53853387/
joe-biden-s-speech-lots-of-sweetness-and-light
Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (HEEq1)
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This entertains me.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:44 PM (UWqZJ)
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Sample for the poll was 50% Dem.
If turn out on election day is 50% Dem, then I will admit Biden will probably win.
If turn out on election day is 50% Dem, then I will admit Biden will probably win.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 12:44 PM (5p7BC)
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I watched Death of Stalin recently. I'm thinking Death of Biden will follow the same arc, but even funnier.
Hillary as Beria.
Hillary as Beria.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2020 12:44 PM (DLzZd)
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75 Sample for the poll was 50% Dem.
If turn out on election day is 50% Dem, then I will admit Biden will probably win.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 12:44 PM (5p7BC)
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What's normal for Pennsylvania?
If turn out on election day is 50% Dem, then I will admit Biden will probably win.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 12:44 PM (5p7BC)
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What's normal for Pennsylvania?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:44 PM (UWqZJ)
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Polls are shit.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (NiXyF)
In early with a possible Thread Winner.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (vf0Uk)
I don't think I've ever been in the running for Thread Winner before.
It's scary.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (NiXyF)
In early with a possible Thread Winner.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (vf0Uk)
I don't think I've ever been in the running for Thread Winner before.
It's scary.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 12:44 PM (NiXyF)
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All poll respondents fall into the class of "willing to talk to pollsters."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 21, 2020 12:44 PM (E+OcO)
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Biden stated on day 1 as president he will pardon the Hamburglar, "no one should be jailed for stealing food for their family".
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (s6Kkz)
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I've noticed that nearly every "news" outlet is picking up on the moribund state of the USPS.
Broken sorting machines, food going bad, mail trucks breaking down, disappearing boxes... You know, the same shit that's been going on for the past dozen or so years. But now, all of a sudden it's a national emergency.
Had any of these idiots really planned on voting by mail, until they were told they need to vote by mail? Lemmings.
Broken sorting machines, food going bad, mail trucks breaking down, disappearing boxes... You know, the same shit that's been going on for the past dozen or so years. But now, all of a sudden it's a national emergency.
Had any of these idiots really planned on voting by mail, until they were told they need to vote by mail? Lemmings.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (8B6Ng)
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I dream of Trump unleashed in another term with him giving less fucks than he does now. oh and I long to watch the liberal tears on election night. oh yeah.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (csiRd)
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The commies at work didn't even want to talk about the convention today. All they wished to discuss was "Trump's buddy, Bannon, getting arrested."
Posted by: Swallow the Rabbit Whole at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (DB16e)
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I don't think I've ever been in the running for Thread Winner before.
You must use this power wisely
You must use this power wisely
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (KZzsI)
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*Puts on cowboy hat and large fake mustache*
Excuse me, where might a gentleman of leisure bet on a man fucking an alligator?
Excuse me, where might a gentleman of leisure bet on a man fucking an alligator?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (ifmtJ)
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69 McSally is a poor Senate candidate against Mark Kelly
The good news is that this would be her last campaign. She just doesn't have what it takes.
Posted by: pep at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (v16oJ) T
The greatest irony is that if McSally loses, and Kelly wins, then the two Democrat Senators, Kelly and Sinema, would still be on balance more conservative than the duo of Jeff Flake and John McCain.
The good news is that this would be her last campaign. She just doesn't have what it takes.
Posted by: pep at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (v16oJ) T
The greatest irony is that if McSally loses, and Kelly wins, then the two Democrat Senators, Kelly and Sinema, would still be on balance more conservative than the duo of Jeff Flake and John McCain.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (Kpl3J)
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Biden drew support from 49% of likely state voters
this is another defect of all polling: the cohort of first-time voters is not represented. I know of at least ten people who are registering for the first time to vote for Trump.
this is another defect of all polling: the cohort of first-time voters is not represented. I know of at least ten people who are registering for the first time to vote for Trump.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (DJFLF)
88
Hugbox Bubble. That's kind of brilliant.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (ZCiJZ)
89
Is Trump speaking extemporaneously now? He looks so relaxed and happy, and gives the impression he's having fun.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Charismatic MAGAfauna Exemplar at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (8np4X)
90
86 The greatest irony is that if McSally loses, and Kelly wins, then the two Democrat Senators, Kelly and Sinema, would still be on balance more conservative than the duo of Jeff Flake and John McCain.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (Kpl3J)
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Well, until Schumer needs Sinema's vote.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (Kpl3J)
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Well, until Schumer needs Sinema's vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (UWqZJ)
91
82 I dream of Trump unleashed in another term with him giving less fucks than he does now. oh and I long to watch the liberal tears on election night. oh yeah.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (csiRd
There will be tears, yes. Mostly from the tear gas.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (csiRd
There will be tears, yes. Mostly from the tear gas.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (2O5Io)
92
I don't think I've ever been in the running for Thread Winner before.
You must use this power wisely
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (KZzsI)
Wait, I'm in the AoSHQ Horde.
What is this "wisely" of which you speak?
You must use this power wisely
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (KZzsI)
Wait, I'm in the AoSHQ Horde.
What is this "wisely" of which you speak?
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (NiXyF)
93
I'm voting for Joe. Twice.
Posted by: zombie John Murtha at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (9dnxb)
94
Polls. Okay then.
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (bCLt0)
95
Within the margin of error does NOT mean tied.
I know, I was told there would be no math.
It is not "just as likely" that they are tied if Joe is 4 points ahead.
It is still more likely that Joe is ahead.
If polls meant much of anything. Which they don't.
I know, I was told there would be no math.
It is not "just as likely" that they are tied if Joe is 4 points ahead.
It is still more likely that Joe is ahead.
If polls meant much of anything. Which they don't.
Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (ZfRYq)
96
So a nationwide mask mandate in the same timeline as sanctuary cities and entire states refusing to follow federal drug laws.
Alright then.
Alright then.
Posted by: Charles Darwin - Brake lights matter at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (Zd8/o)
97
@70 - that's me. I come here for the news. I turn the car radio on for the traffic report, then I turn it off when they're done. I don't want to listen to delusional people ranting lies.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (E+OcO)
98
I'm scared of Wolf doing something to the PA votes
Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (J8nVw)
99
I'm Joe Bliden's Husband and I'm running for United States Senate.
Vote for me and I'll shit your pants!
Vote for me and I'll shit your pants!
Posted by: Joe "Ruprecht" Biden at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (vf0Uk)
100
Is GOPe giving any indication they want Trump to win?
Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (l3+k2)
101
From the morning report headlines!
Trump: Life Under a Biden Presidency Would Be Violent Anarchy, Mayhem Coming to Your Town
From me....
Hot damn here I am! Let loose the pigeons! I am arrived!
Trump: Life Under a Biden Presidency Would Be Violent Anarchy, Mayhem Coming to Your Town
From me....
Hot damn here I am! Let loose the pigeons! I am arrived!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (Vxu+H)
102
"I watched Death of Stalin recently." Me too, glad I did. I didn't laugh, but enjoyed it. Made me look up some history.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (qpX6U)
103
"Hugbox Bubble of Fake News" has entered the lexicon.
Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (BRkq2)
104
Is Trump speaking extemporaneously now? He looks so relaxed and happy, and gives the impression he's having fun.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Charismatic MAGAfauna Exemplar at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (8np4X)
He's layin' it down.
Bigly.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Charismatic MAGAfauna Exemplar at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (8np4X)
He's layin' it down.
Bigly.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (NiXyF)
105
I urge the Left to go into their Safe Spaces to escape the Bad Orange Man. I will sound the "all clear" when he is gone and they can emerge.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Convention Specials! Scalp Weasel Grooming Products 25% at The Outrage Outlet! at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (Er2qD)
106
84
I don't think I've ever been in the running for Thread Winner before.
You must use this power wisely
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (KZzsI)
...to get chicks to show you their boobs.
I don't think I've ever been in the running for Thread Winner before.
You must use this power wisely
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (KZzsI)
...to get chicks to show you their boobs.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (csiRd)
107
This is the poll with a 9% oversampling of donkey communists?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (pw+jk)
108
92 I don't think I've ever been in the running for Thread Winner before.
You must use this power wisely
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (KZzsI)
Wait, I'm in the AoSHQ Horde.
What is this "wisely" of which you speak?
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (NiXyF)
First part of...
Wise Ass?
You must use this power wisely
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (KZzsI)
Wait, I'm in the AoSHQ Horde.
What is this "wisely" of which you speak?
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (NiXyF)
First part of...
Wise Ass?
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (NgKpN)
109
Breaking Biden on TNN starts NOW.
Posted by: jsg at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (Yr7T6)
110
and so it begins
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (yQpMk)
I, love you, man.
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (yQpMk)
I, love you, man.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (DLzZd)
111
Trump speaking extemporaneously now? He looks so relaxed and happy, and gives the impression he's having fun.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Charismatic MAGAfauna Exemplar at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (8np4X)
When was the last time any Democrat looked happy?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Charismatic MAGAfauna Exemplar at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (8np4X)
When was the last time any Democrat looked happy?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (lgiXo)
112
84 I don't think I've ever been in the running for Thread Winner before.
You must use this power wisely
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (KZzsI)
Needs that slave in the chariot standing behind you, whispering in your ear.
You must use this power wisely
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (KZzsI)
Needs that slave in the chariot standing behind you, whispering in your ear.
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (bCLt0)
113
I continue to think it likely Trump will win with a higher electoral count, but I don't expect widespread trouble because of it. As I've said before.
Portland, Seattle, selected areas of select cities, some problems.
But overall - deflation, not explosion.
And the writhing agony and hysteria of the commentariat will be epic, but little noted outside the usual circles.
Portland, Seattle, selected areas of select cities, some problems.
But overall - deflation, not explosion.
And the writhing agony and hysteria of the commentariat will be epic, but little noted outside the usual circles.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (OTzUX)
114
I'm voting for Joe. Twice.
Posted by: zombie John Murtha at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (9dnxb)
No you won't. You don't have time for that.
Get back here and resume sucking my cock.
Posted by: zombie John Murtha at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (9dnxb)
No you won't. You don't have time for that.
Get back here and resume sucking my cock.
Posted by: Satan at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (vf0Uk)
115
. You know, the same shit that's been going on for the past dozen or so
years. But now, all of a sudden it's a national emergency.
I recall, about six, seven years ago - bags of unprocessed mail being dumped in the bins outside 30th Street Station in Philadelphia. That post office is a main distribution hub in SEPA. Thousands of pieces of mail, just thrown away.
during obarky's reign of error.
years. But now, all of a sudden it's a national emergency.
I recall, about six, seven years ago - bags of unprocessed mail being dumped in the bins outside 30th Street Station in Philadelphia. That post office is a main distribution hub in SEPA. Thousands of pieces of mail, just thrown away.
during obarky's reign of error.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (DJFLF)
116
I do not see why Biden cannot win 95% of the vote. All you need is a good slogan.
Posted by: Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (QE8X6)
117
I hope Newsweek does a Madame Vice President special issue!!!
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (Xz7Fn)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (pB6Gt)
119
There's no way Trump can win!
The Democrats have spent the last 4 years working night and day on issues important to blue-collar and Obama-Trump voters.
Wait. I'm getting an update:
The Democrsts have done the opposite of that.
The Democrats have spent the last 4 years working night and day on issues important to blue-collar and Obama-Trump voters.
Wait. I'm getting an update:
The Democrsts have done the opposite of that.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (aO8Gd)
120
All poll respondents fall into the class of "willing to talk to pollsters
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Yep. A poll that has a self-selecting sample is garbage.
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Yep. A poll that has a self-selecting sample is garbage.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (4k/Uz)
121
98 I'm scared of Wolf doing something to the PA votes
Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (J8nVw)
Where Wolf???
Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (J8nVw)
Where Wolf???
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (bCLt0)
122
Trump as a lame duck will invoke the insurrection act and drone strike every protestor in the country, declare the pandemic over and arrest everybody in the DOJ bureaucracy, including Barr.
And that's just the first day of his second term.
And that's just the first day of his second term.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (+dsLj)
123
Wonder what happens in September if Trump leads in all polling.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (2O5Io)
124
Morning Call, this pollster, had Clinton +6 in their final poll of 2016. Trump won by .7
Posted by: scott at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (JfQmR)
125
A poll with that big a margin of error is even crappier than regular polls. That's like polling a bunch of high school girls about what a bitch Megan Cooper is after she started dating the football captain.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (KZzsI)
Maybe if the other cheerleaders did butt stuff like Megan, I'd have stuck around....
A poll with that big a margin of error is even crappier than regular polls. That's like polling a bunch of high school girls about what a bitch Megan Cooper is after she started dating the football captain.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 12:40 PM (KZzsI)
Maybe if the other cheerleaders did butt stuff like Megan, I'd have stuck around....
Posted by: The Football Captain at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (EGyGV)
126
Portland Antifa prepares to take it to the next level:
Business has been shut down at federal courthouses Friday in downtown Portland amid a threat.
Portland's federal bankruptcy court and Mark O. Hatfield United States Courthouse are both closed. The bankruptcy court cited an unspecified "threat of violence in the area" as the reason for its closure.
Federal officials didn't immediately respond to messages seeking information. But a source with knowledge of the situation said federal authorities received a threat that a vehicle filled with explosives would hit a federal building.
I wasn't expecting full-on urban guerrilla warfare until after the election.
Business has been shut down at federal courthouses Friday in downtown Portland amid a threat.
Portland's federal bankruptcy court and Mark O. Hatfield United States Courthouse are both closed. The bankruptcy court cited an unspecified "threat of violence in the area" as the reason for its closure.
Federal officials didn't immediately respond to messages seeking information. But a source with knowledge of the situation said federal authorities received a threat that a vehicle filled with explosives would hit a federal building.
I wasn't expecting full-on urban guerrilla warfare until after the election.
Posted by: The ARC Of History! at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (I2/tG)
127
Looking deeper into that poll:
response rate was 11%. That is horrid.
sample was 47% democrat!
Even with the overwhelmingly dem sample Biden is still underwater - 39/46 approval.
They have a trend of the last 3 polls and Trump is moving up - higher than the two pre-covid polls they did.
response rate was 11%. That is horrid.
sample was 47% democrat!
Even with the overwhelmingly dem sample Biden is still underwater - 39/46 approval.
They have a trend of the last 3 polls and Trump is moving up - higher than the two pre-covid polls they did.
Posted by: Short Shorts at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (O6DoG)
128
Rasmussen: Trump now above the magic approval number at 51%.
You know what will solve this problem? Mail-in voting.
You know what will solve this problem? Mail-in voting.
Posted by: DNC at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (v0R5T)
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119 There's no way Trump can win!
The Democrats have spent the last 4 years working night and day on issues important to blue-collar and Obama-Trump voters.
Wait. I'm getting an update:
The Democrsts have done the opposite of that.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (aO8Gd)
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"But you promised us!"
-30 Trump Districts won by Democrats in 2018
The Democrats have spent the last 4 years working night and day on issues important to blue-collar and Obama-Trump voters.
Wait. I'm getting an update:
The Democrsts have done the opposite of that.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 21, 2020 12:48 PM (aO8Gd)
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"But you promised us!"
-30 Trump Districts won by Democrats in 2018
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:50 PM (UWqZJ)
130
Only the best on the #MoneyPlane
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 21, 2020 12:50 PM (icI8A)
Posted by: In before the troll at August 21, 2020 12:50 PM (EGyGV)
132
Sample for the poll was 50% Dem.
If turn out on election day is 50% Dem, then I will admit Biden will probably win.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 12:44 PM (5p7BC)
********
HAHAHAHAHA
If turn out on election day is 50% Dem, then I will admit Biden will probably win.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 12:44 PM (5p7BC)
********
HAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at August 21, 2020 12:50 PM (B6c+Y)
133
So Billie Ellish said something about "vote like your life depends on it.."'
Is she even biologically alive ? A zombie has more zest for life.
Is she even biologically alive ? A zombie has more zest for life.
Posted by: Ripley at August 21, 2020 12:50 PM (MxEKc)
134
Pennsylvania results in 2016 were pretty fascinating.
https://bit.ly/2DEv6ej
PA had been pretty solidly Blue the previous 4 elections. And Hillary only lost 64,000 votes (2%) from Obama's 2012 total.
But there was massive increase in both third party voting and in Republican turnout in PA in 2016 for Trump.
Trump increased Romney's 2012 total by 10%! 290,000 votes.
And third party voting increased by 223%. 185,000 votes.
Trump won the state by 44,000 votes.
GOP candidate votes in PA:
2016 (Trump): 2.97 mil
2012 (Romney): 2.68 mil
2008 (McCain): 2.66 mil
2004 (Bush): 2.79 mil
2000 (Bush): 2.28 mil
Dem candidate votes in PA:
2016 (Clinton): 2.92 mil
2012 (Obama): 2.99 mil
2008 (Obama): 3.28 mil
2004 (Kerry): 2.94 mil
2000 (Gore): 2.48 mil
https://bit.ly/2DEv6ej
PA had been pretty solidly Blue the previous 4 elections. And Hillary only lost 64,000 votes (2%) from Obama's 2012 total.
But there was massive increase in both third party voting and in Republican turnout in PA in 2016 for Trump.
Trump increased Romney's 2012 total by 10%! 290,000 votes.
And third party voting increased by 223%. 185,000 votes.
Trump won the state by 44,000 votes.
GOP candidate votes in PA:
2016 (Trump): 2.97 mil
2012 (Romney): 2.68 mil
2008 (McCain): 2.66 mil
2004 (Bush): 2.79 mil
2000 (Bush): 2.28 mil
Dem candidate votes in PA:
2016 (Clinton): 2.92 mil
2012 (Obama): 2.99 mil
2008 (Obama): 3.28 mil
2004 (Kerry): 2.94 mil
2000 (Gore): 2.48 mil
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 21, 2020 12:50 PM (Do5/p)
135
Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but in one of the pictures they showed last night of Biden with his kids when they were little, Hunter (I think) was wearing a Redskins wooly hat.
Posted by: Flatville Bill at August 21, 2020 12:50 PM (tEsMf)
136
127 Looking deeper into that poll:
response rate was 11%. That is horrid.
sample was 47% democrat!
Even with the overwhelmingly dem sample Biden is still underwater - 39/46 approval.
They have a trend of the last 3 polls and Trump is moving up - higher than the two pre-covid polls they did.
Posted by: Short Shorts at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (O6DoG)
This is why you never should, ah forget it.
response rate was 11%. That is horrid.
sample was 47% democrat!
Even with the overwhelmingly dem sample Biden is still underwater - 39/46 approval.
They have a trend of the last 3 polls and Trump is moving up - higher than the two pre-covid polls they did.
Posted by: Short Shorts at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (O6DoG)
This is why you never should, ah forget it.
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 12:50 PM (bCLt0)
137
98
I'm scared of Wolf doing something to the PA votes
Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (J8nVw)
I'm worried about "activists" showing up at polling locations, and I don't mean those lame-ass Black Panthers that showed up in North Philly a couple cycles back. I can see them targeting the suburbs.
I'm scared of Wolf doing something to the PA votes
Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (J8nVw)
I'm worried about "activists" showing up at polling locations, and I don't mean those lame-ass Black Panthers that showed up in North Philly a couple cycles back. I can see them targeting the suburbs.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 12:50 PM (DJFLF)
138
128 Rasmussen: Trump now above the magic approval number at 51%.
You know what will solve this problem? Mail-in voting.
Posted by: DNC at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (v0R5T)
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Since it didn't move from yesterday, that means that the jump we saw yesterday wasn't replicated in the new number added to the rolling average.
That jump was an outlier and will fall off in another couple of days.
You know what will solve this problem? Mail-in voting.
Posted by: DNC at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (v0R5T)
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Since it didn't move from yesterday, that means that the jump we saw yesterday wasn't replicated in the new number added to the rolling average.
That jump was an outlier and will fall off in another couple of days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (UWqZJ)
139
I continue to be surprised, when talking to people I know personally, how many say that they have turned off all news, stopped reading all papers, cut off any of the input from anywhere. They perceive it as all crap, and they don't want to hear any of it anymore. I would say that among my personal acquaintances, a clear majority now fall into this category.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (Kpl3J)
The problem with that, of course, is that when they are confronted with real news - such as the links in the Morning Report - they simply won't believe them. Even though they "perceive it as all crap," there's still the little voice deep down that says if they didn't see it in their local rag or hear it on the radio or TV, then it didn't really happen.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:43 PM (Kpl3J)
The problem with that, of course, is that when they are confronted with real news - such as the links in the Morning Report - they simply won't believe them. Even though they "perceive it as all crap," there's still the little voice deep down that says if they didn't see it in their local rag or hear it on the radio or TV, then it didn't really happen.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (2JVJo)
140
I've noticed that nearly every "news" outlet is picking up on the moribund state of the USPS.
Broken sorting machines, food going bad, mail trucks breaking down, disappearing boxes... You know, the same shit that's been going on for the past dozen or so years. But now, all of a sudden it's a national emergency.
Had any of these idiots really planned on voting by mail, until they were told they need to vote by mail? Lemmings.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (8B6Ng)
It's a national emergency because it's how the D's planned to steal the election this time around.
Broken sorting machines, food going bad, mail trucks breaking down, disappearing boxes... You know, the same shit that's been going on for the past dozen or so years. But now, all of a sudden it's a national emergency.
Had any of these idiots really planned on voting by mail, until they were told they need to vote by mail? Lemmings.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (8B6Ng)
It's a national emergency because it's how the D's planned to steal the election this time around.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (NiXyF)
141
Well, until Schumer needs Sinema's vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (UWqZJ)
That's why the so-called "Blue Dog Democrats" finally died out in the South. Their whole schtick was "oh we're conservative! We're just democrats, just like you old conservative democrat grandpa!" But whenever Nancy Pelosi cracked her whip, they jumped and danced for her. It took way too long, but voters finally wised up to that game.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (UWqZJ)
That's why the so-called "Blue Dog Democrats" finally died out in the South. Their whole schtick was "oh we're conservative! We're just democrats, just like you old conservative democrat grandpa!" But whenever Nancy Pelosi cracked her whip, they jumped and danced for her. It took way too long, but voters finally wised up to that game.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (Kpl3J)
142
100 Is GOPe giving any indication they want Trump to win?
Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (l3+k2)
30 House Retirements this cycle so.....
Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (l3+k2)
30 House Retirements this cycle so.....
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (Xz7Fn)
143
Ace on a hot tin roof.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (an7Mv)
144
123 Wonder what happens in September if Trump leads in all polling.
exactly guys - be careful what you wish for!!!!
it will be scary shit
zombies? MOAR Covid19 crap?!?
I shudder to think, honestly
am a bit happier when the moron dems think they're gonna win
and BTW we are seriously under totalitarianism here in PA, unless you're Amish. people here do NOT say what they think.
we've had the longest/most severe lockdowns and restrictions, and no end in sight for us. we can't get rid of the Tommunist and his little "lady" no matter what we do.
so, PA, people are not going to answer polls honestly if they are pro-trump. we're scared.
exactly guys - be careful what you wish for!!!!
it will be scary shit
zombies? MOAR Covid19 crap?!?
I shudder to think, honestly
am a bit happier when the moron dems think they're gonna win
and BTW we are seriously under totalitarianism here in PA, unless you're Amish. people here do NOT say what they think.
we've had the longest/most severe lockdowns and restrictions, and no end in sight for us. we can't get rid of the Tommunist and his little "lady" no matter what we do.
so, PA, people are not going to answer polls honestly if they are pro-trump. we're scared.
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (j9HX3)
145
But a source with knowledge of the situation said federal authorities received a threat that a vehicle filled with explosives would hit a federal building.
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Wow. I knew they had found some IEDs, but I didn't expect this action in Democrat friendly territory.
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Wow. I knew they had found some IEDs, but I didn't expect this action in Democrat friendly territory.
Posted by: Charles Darwin - Brake lights matter at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (Zd8/o)
146
DOnt know when this poll was taken, but if Joe is only "up 4" in PA after the convention, then he is way behind where he needs to be.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (svbBD)
147
121 98 I'm scared of Wolf doing something to the PA votes
Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (J8nVw)
Where Wolf???
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (bCLt0)
"There wolf!
There...castle!"
Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (J8nVw)
Where Wolf???
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (bCLt0)
"There wolf!
There...castle!"
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (ifmtJ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (L47aO)
149
Hasn't Wolf already requested 3 days after Election Day to harvest votes from the State Supreme Court?
Posted by: EveR at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (DsGxB)
150
Fun fact about PA:
If every hunting license issued each year in PA was counted as a soldier with a gun, PA would have the 4th largest army in the world.
If every hunting license issued each year in PA was counted as a soldier with a gun, PA would have the 4th largest army in the world.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (aO8Gd)
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100 Is GOPe giving any indication they want Trump to win?
Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (l3+k2)
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Whatever the Dems want but with country club panache.
Posted by: davidt at August 21, 2020 12:47 PM (l3+k2)
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Whatever the Dems want but with country club panache.
Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (BRkq2)
152
"Polls are shit."
Also, there's two months left to go. Anything could happen in two months. COVID-1900. Invasion of Taiwan. Dollar collapse. Another ten BLM martyrs. It's 2020 guys.
Also, there's two months left to go. Anything could happen in two months. COVID-1900. Invasion of Taiwan. Dollar collapse. Another ten BLM martyrs. It's 2020 guys.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (qpX6U)
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I do not see why Biden cannot win 95% of the vote. All you need is a good slogan.Posted by: Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev
A competent politician can win 100% easily.
A competent politician can win 100% easily.
Posted by: Sadam, posting from Hell at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (ZCiJZ)
154
143 Ace on a hot tin roof.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (an7Mv)
Ace has been banging Big Daddy?!!?!
Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (an7Mv)
Ace has been banging Big Daddy?!!?!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (ifmtJ)
155
Well, until Schumer needs Sinema's vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse!
Absolutely... she only votes 'conservative' on issues where her vote doesn't matter.
Well, until Schumer needs Sinema's vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse!
Absolutely... she only votes 'conservative' on issues where her vote doesn't matter.
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (gtatv)
156
there is absolutely NO WAY I would answer a pollster honestly. They already have my phone number, can easily get my name, address, place of employ... if they don't already have it.
Seattle is not a tolerant place. cars get keyed, homes get egged or otherwise defaced. It really is scary to consider being doxxed. They WILL come after you.
Seattle is not a tolerant place. cars get keyed, homes get egged or otherwise defaced. It really is scary to consider being doxxed. They WILL come after you.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (W2Pud)
157
Wonder what happens in September if Trump leads in all polling.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (2O5Io)
.........
Chaotic vote counting in November and lawsuits.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (2O5Io)
.........
Chaotic vote counting in November and lawsuits.
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (v0R5T)
158
Posted by: that guy that always thinks it's beginning at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (yQpMk)
I miss the guy who always yelled, "EN FUEGO!"
I miss the guy who always yelled, "EN FUEGO!"
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (2JVJo)
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141 Well, until Schumer needs Sinema's vote.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (UWqZJ)
That's why the so-called "Blue Dog Democrats" finally died out in the South. Their whole schtick was "oh we're conservative! We're just democrats, just like you old conservative democrat grandpa!" But whenever Nancy Pelosi cracked her whip, they jumped and danced for her. It took way too long, but voters finally wised up to that game.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (Kpl3J)
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Remember the days when we thought Sinema wasn't going to vote for conviction at the impeachment trial?
Le sigh...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM (UWqZJ)
That's why the so-called "Blue Dog Democrats" finally died out in the South. Their whole schtick was "oh we're conservative! We're just democrats, just like you old conservative democrat grandpa!" But whenever Nancy Pelosi cracked her whip, they jumped and danced for her. It took way too long, but voters finally wised up to that game.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (Kpl3J)
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Remember the days when we thought Sinema wasn't going to vote for conviction at the impeachment trial?
Le sigh...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (UWqZJ)
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2
I dream of Trump unleashed in another term with him giving less fucks
than he does now. oh and I long to watch the liberal tears on election
night. oh yeah.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (csiRd)
The thing about Trump is, not being a career politician, he never gave a damn in the first place. But yes, I agree that a second term with a mandate would be a glorious rampage of conservative judge appointments, tax cuts, regulation slashing and repeatedly curb stomping China and Iran. In other words, a huge four year America First FU to the globalist left in general.
I dream of Trump unleashed in another term with him giving less fucks
than he does now. oh and I long to watch the liberal tears on election
night. oh yeah.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (csiRd)
The thing about Trump is, not being a career politician, he never gave a damn in the first place. But yes, I agree that a second term with a mandate would be a glorious rampage of conservative judge appointments, tax cuts, regulation slashing and repeatedly curb stomping China and Iran. In other words, a huge four year America First FU to the globalist left in general.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (Dc5Qe)
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133. I will vote Trump, because I believe my life does depend on it.
Posted by: CN at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (ONvIw)
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157 Wonder what happens in September if Trump leads in all polling.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (2O5Io)
.........
Chaotic vote counting in November and lawsuits.
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (v0R5T)
I'm thinking Aliens or maybe biologically enhanced Otters.
157 Wonder what happens in September if Trump leads in all polling.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (2O5Io)
.........
Chaotic vote counting in November and lawsuits.
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (v0R5T)
I'm thinking Aliens or maybe biologically enhanced Otters.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:53 PM (2O5Io)
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>>Also, there's two months left to go. Anything could happen in two months. COVID-1900. Invasion of Taiwan. Dollar collapse. Another ten BLM martyrs. It's 2020 guys.
Joe could have another stroke.
Joe could have another stroke.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 12:53 PM (ZLI7S)
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I don't think I've ever been in the running for Thread Winner before.
It's scary.
The position of Thread First Runner Up is important because if, for any reason, the Thread Winner is unable to fulfill the requirements of the office....
It's scary.
The position of Thread First Runner Up is important because if, for any reason, the Thread Winner is unable to fulfill the requirements of the office....
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 21, 2020 12:53 PM (qc+VF)
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2020 12:53 PM (OeBYn)
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I'm so old I remember when ace told us that Trump was going to lose so big that we would lose the Presidency, the Congress, and the Courts FOR GENERATIONS.
Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (ZfRYq)
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Pennsylvania going to get royally screwed because the Liberal Hack PA Supreme Court is going to orchestrate the "mail in ballot" fiasco. Gov. Wolf submitted an after hours proposal and then started pressuring the Supreme Court to mandate it.
It allows votes to keep coming in (of the mail in variety) after election day.
Gosh, I wonder where this is headed.
It allows votes to keep coming in (of the mail in variety) after election day.
Gosh, I wonder where this is headed.
Posted by: Orson at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (iXDrN)
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156. My MIL lied and said she was voting for Dinkins for that very reason
Posted by: CN at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (ONvIw)
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Polling has had issues for years now. Outside of the polls conducted to generate a specific result, how do you get a reflective sample of the public? That gives you honest answers?
I do have to admit to telling a couple of pollsters that I'm voting for Vermin Supreme.
I do have to admit to telling a couple of pollsters that I'm voting for Vermin Supreme.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (qlFIA)
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These poll numbers are not good for Biden as I believe most polling firms are undercounting Trump supporters just like they did in 2016. Vote Trump and Republican like your life depends on it because it does.
Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (tSosf)
171
so, will the debates happen or not?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (W2Pud)
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But a source with knowledge of the situation said
federal authorities received a threat that a vehicle filled with
explosives would hit a federal building.
I wasn't expecting full-on urban guerrilla warfare until after the election.
Posted by: The ARC Of History! at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (I2/tG)
They want military in the streets so they can declare Trump a Hitler/Mussolini etc. Didn't they hear the top brass are commie plants, so that plan is a non-starter?
federal authorities received a threat that a vehicle filled with
explosives would hit a federal building.
I wasn't expecting full-on urban guerrilla warfare until after the election.
Posted by: The ARC Of History! at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (I2/tG)
They want military in the streets so they can declare Trump a Hitler/Mussolini etc. Didn't they hear the top brass are commie plants, so that plan is a non-starter?
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (DJFLF)
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Trump doing Kamalian stand up on pscp.tv
Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (fsqLk)
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If I was going to pick one state Trump loses to Biden that he didn't to Hillary (and still win the Presidency) it would probably be PA.
That being said, this is really encouraging and really bad news for Biden.
If I was Trump, I'd focus on Minnesota, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Michigan and Florida.
That being said, this is really encouraging and really bad news for Biden.
If I was Trump, I'd focus on Minnesota, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Michigan and Florida.
Posted by: Blago at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (gkdnV)
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But, but, Biden didn't blow a gasket last night, so he's a lock.
Posted by: CNN at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (v0R5T)
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Being within the margin of error isn't the same as being tied. The margin of error means that, if we assume the numbers returned in the poll are perfectly accurate, then we would expect 19/20 samples to fall within that range.
It doesn't mean that poll itself is accurate.
It doesn't mean that poll itself is accurate.
Posted by: Spiderlord at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (DXTEG)
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I mean I've spent enough time in strip clubs to be an honorary Biden, but I'm an only child so I can't doink my dead brother's wife, and I've never done cocaine. I'm a failure as a Biden.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (icI8A)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (an7Mv)
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I'm thinking Aliens or maybe biologically enhanced Otters.
Aliens in September, house arrest for all in Oct/ November.
/or maybe SMOD one of those months. I'm not sure.
Aliens in September, house arrest for all in Oct/ November.
/or maybe SMOD one of those months. I'm not sure.
Posted by: shibumi, awaiting SMOD at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (ZCiJZ)
180
Trump speaking extemporaneously now? He looks so relaxed and happy, and gives the impression he's having fun.
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But, that's not possible. He's darkness personified. Bring us into the light, Uncle Joe. Bring us into the light...
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But, that's not possible. He's darkness personified. Bring us into the light, Uncle Joe. Bring us into the light...
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (O+I8R)
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171 so, will the debates happen or not?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (W2Pud)
Nope.
171 so, will the debates happen or not?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (W2Pud)
Nope.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (2O5Io)
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I did not know this!
One of the heroes who stopped the train terrorist in Europe is running for Congress in Oregon
https://twitter.com/alekskarlatos/status/
1296551588362776576
One of the heroes who stopped the train terrorist in Europe is running for Congress in Oregon
https://twitter.com/alekskarlatos/status/
1296551588362776576
Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (J8nVw)
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171. I say they won't
Posted by: CN at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (ONvIw)
184
"Joe could have another stroke." Likely yes.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (qpX6U)
185
People like Scott Presler on Twitter do give me some hope.. they are out there doing voter registration drives (when he's not getting a 100 volunteers to do 50 ton trash clean ups in cities like Baltimore and L.A.)
and it might be enough to turn the tide...
https://tinyurl.com/yycfdcut
and it might be enough to turn the tide...
https://tinyurl.com/yycfdcut
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (CjFDo)
186
Aliens in September
Mass riots and insurrection in November
Speaking of, SGAMMO is getting a trickle of product in. Mostly expensive defensive ammo.
Mass riots and insurrection in November
Speaking of, SGAMMO is getting a trickle of product in. Mostly expensive defensive ammo.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (ifmtJ)
187
Ok So PA voter registration from 2016 to 2019:
GOP netted 172,926 more voter registrations than DEM. That doesn't even include 2020.
GOP netted 172,926 more voter registrations than DEM. That doesn't even include 2020.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (+dsLj)
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I will vote Trump, because I believe my life does depend on it.
Posted by: CN at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (ONvIw)
It does.
The left will kill you in any manner possible.
Riot. Plague. Muslham terrorist. MS-13.
The list goes on.
Posted by: CN at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (ONvIw)
It does.
The left will kill you in any manner possible.
Riot. Plague. Muslham terrorist. MS-13.
The list goes on.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (vf0Uk)
189
time to change Joe's diaper
Posted by: x at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (nFwvY)
190
and BTW we are seriously under totalitarianism here in PA, unless you're Amish. people here do NOT say what they think.
I sure do. Fuck these assholes. Of course, I live in the normal part of the state.
I sure do. Fuck these assholes. Of course, I live in the normal part of the state
.Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (Xwuv1)
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"Being within the margin of error isn't the same as being tied. The margin of error means that, if we assume the numbers returned in the poll are perfectly accurate, then we would expect 19/20 samples to fall within that range.
It doesn't mean that poll itself is accurate.
Posted by: Spiderlord at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (DXTEG)"
NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD
It doesn't mean that poll itself is accurate.
Posted by: Spiderlord at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (DXTEG)"
NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (icI8A)
192
I can't wait for the debates. It will be like the 1927 Yankees agains the Bad News Bears.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (ZLI7S)
193
Biden's campaign will be the the perfect metaphor for government.
Deny there's an issue. Wait until it's too late. Do something! Blame everyone else when it doesn't work.
Deny there's an issue. Wait until it's too late. Do something! Blame everyone else when it doesn't work.
Posted by: MJ at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (gAMkn)
194
Remember the days when we thought Sinema wasn't going to vote for conviction at the impeachment trial?
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Hey, let's see you ignore Nancy Pelosi when she tugs on your nipple ring
Remember the days when we thought Sinema wasn't going to vote for conviction at the impeachment trial?
___
Hey, let's see you ignore Nancy Pelosi when she tugs on your nipple ring
Posted by: Sen Sinema at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (qlFIA)
195
181
171 so, will the debates happen or not?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (W2Pud)
Nope.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (2O5Io)
Agree. No upside for Dems, so they will brazenly concoct some reason, which everyone expects them to do.
171 so, will the debates happen or not?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (W2Pud)
Nope.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (2O5Io)
Agree. No upside for Dems, so they will brazenly concoct some reason, which everyone expects them to do.
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (bCLt0)
196
Remember the days when we thought Sinema wasn't going to vote for conviction at the impeachment trial?
Le sigh...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (UWqZJ)
What do you mean we, kemosabe?
Le sigh...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:52 PM (UWqZJ)
What do you mean we, kemosabe?
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (Xz7Fn)
197
Slick Mahony is killing me, Ace.
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (QpC4V)
198
Some guy in the previous thread tells me this is all a waste of time based on some mysterious algorithm he has. Either the trolls are getting more devious or this is turning into another dumping ground for no-thoughts.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (2BgZB)
The Hell I did.
I showed you, showed you, based on 2016 numbers - exactly how many votes would needed to be fraudulently counted to swing the election in one state, Minnesota, based on various theoretical Trump leads. And if you'd like to go back to the that thread - I'll show you how they can do it - based upon over-reporting in just a few places that went largely for Hillary in 2016.
And I did not use anything more mysterious than the 2016 numbers that are available on Wikipedia. Don't try and twist what I said.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at August 21, 2020 12:38 PM (2BgZB)
The Hell I did.
I showed you, showed you, based on 2016 numbers - exactly how many votes would needed to be fraudulently counted to swing the election in one state, Minnesota, based on various theoretical Trump leads. And if you'd like to go back to the that thread - I'll show you how they can do it - based upon over-reporting in just a few places that went largely for Hillary in 2016.
And I did not use anything more mysterious than the 2016 numbers that are available on Wikipedia. Don't try and twist what I said.
Posted by: Round and Round We go at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (x8pK0)
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It allows votes to keep coming in (of the mail in variety) after election day.
these are absentee ballots, not mail in voting, just to clarify
the dems are pushing people hard to apply for absentee, but they probably won't other than really insane liberals, but even them I would think would rather go in person
this is really being overstated and presented confusingly when you call it "mail in voting" we do NOT have that.
everyone I talk to in PA plans on voting in person. we had pretty high turnout for the primary during the worst part of the "plague" so people will be voting in person. both sides are paranoid so they will do it in person if at all possible.
these are absentee ballots, not mail in voting, just to clarify
the dems are pushing people hard to apply for absentee, but they probably won't other than really insane liberals, but even them I would think would rather go in person
this is really being overstated and presented confusingly when you call it "mail in voting" we do NOT have that.
everyone I talk to in PA plans on voting in person. we had pretty high turnout for the primary during the worst part of the "plague" so people will be voting in person. both sides are paranoid so they will do it in person if at all possible.
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (j9HX3)
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Sinema is sane, but she is a democrat. She is not a centrist. She is not our friend. She wants Schumer to be majority leader.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (svbBD)
201
The media has already written articles declaring Trump's speech to be dark and divisive, with a soupcon of seizing and a dash of pouncing.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (lgiXo)
202
Huh
Posted by: nonplussed guy at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (2M/TV)
203
If the debates do happen, it won't be at a college like usual, they'll all claim Covid. I think Notre Dame already said they were backing out.
Posted by: Flatville Bill at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (tEsMf)
204
Wonder what happens in September if Trump leads in all polling.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Covid 19 comes back, and we have a double secret probation lock down.
Everybody gets punished until they behave the right way.
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Covid 19 comes back, and we have a double secret probation lock down.
Everybody gets punished until they behave the right way.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (vcOmj)
205
Agree. No upside for Dems, so they will brazenly concoct some reason, which everyone expects them to do.
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (bCLt0)
The Lightbringer's Apprentice refuses to do battle with the Dark Troll Master?
Agree. No upside for Dems, so they will brazenly concoct some reason, which everyone expects them to do.
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (bCLt0)
The Lightbringer's Apprentice refuses to do battle with the Dark Troll Master?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (2O5Io)
206
Hey, let's see you ignore Nancy Pelosi when she tugs on your nipple ring
Posted by: Sen Sinema at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (qlFIA)
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Hey, let's see you ignore Nancy Pelosi when she tugs on your nipple ring
Posted by: Sen Sinema at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (qlFIA)
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (vkVq9)
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>>> 80 Biden stated on day 1 as president he will pardon the Hamburglar, "no one should be jailed for stealing food for their family".
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (s6Kkz)
Where does this Biden fellow stand regarding hamburger loan defaults? Asking for a friend...
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (s6Kkz)
Where does this Biden fellow stand regarding hamburger loan defaults? Asking for a friend...
Posted by: Wimpy at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (wUcQu)
209
Think of the hubris of that bitch saying, "why am I not 50 points ahead?'
Are any dems self-aware? Any?
Are any dems self-aware? Any?
Posted by: Seems Legit at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (jUVms)
210
Ace has been banging Big Daddy?!!?!
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On the other thread someone said he had to sell all his gold to bail him out! Something like that anyway.
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On the other thread someone said he had to sell all his gold to bail him out! Something like that anyway.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (an7Mv)
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"Posted by: Round and Round We go at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (x8pK0)"
Ah, but the strawberries....I proved, with geometric logic! That a duplicate electoral vote had been made.
Ah, but the strawberries....I proved, with geometric logic! That a duplicate electoral vote had been made.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (icI8A)
212
The position of Thread First Runner Up is important because if, for any reason, the Thread Winner is unable to fulfill the requirements of the office....
I've been Miss Thread Personality. Oh wait. No, I haven't.
I've been Miss Thread Personality. Oh wait. No, I haven't.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (q2K0j)
213
A lot of people on our side still go gaga because Joe Manchin once shot a hole through a draft of Obamacare in a commercial. They're still waiting for the Great Party Switch Pumpkin to arrive.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (Xz7Fn)
214
186
Aliens in September
Mass riots and insurrection in November
Speaking of, SGAMMO is getting a trickle of product in. Mostly expensive defensive ammo.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (ifmtJ)
I checked my local ammo shop, which primarily catered to LEO. They have nothing. No range ammo, no personal defense ammo. Not good.
Aliens in September
Mass riots and insurrection in November
Speaking of, SGAMMO is getting a trickle of product in. Mostly expensive defensive ammo.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (ifmtJ)
I checked my local ammo shop, which primarily catered to LEO. They have nothing. No range ammo, no personal defense ammo. Not good.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (N39Ws)
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I don't think I've ever been in the running for Thread Winner before.
It's scary.
--
The best part is the fifty cent coupon off Val-U-Rite.
It's scary.
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The best part is the fifty cent coupon off Val-U-Rite.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (4k/Uz)
216
BLM/Antifa burned down the Blue Wall ...
Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (Cus5s)
217
I don't use telephones, so I don't get a chance to lie to pollsters I guess. If I did use em, I wouldn't answer unknown callers anyway.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (qpX6U)
218
Wonder what happens in September if Trump leads in all polling.
***
I presume a deep fake of him saying the n-word. Or maybe saying he raped someone. Or probably both.
Though that will probably be late October...
***
I presume a deep fake of him saying the n-word. Or maybe saying he raped someone. Or probably both.
Though that will probably be late October...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (qlFIA)
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The problem with that, of course, is that when they are confronted with real news - such as the links in the Morning Report - they simply won't believe them. Even though they "perceive it as all crap," there's still the little voice deep down that says if they didn't see it in their local rag or hear it on the radio or TV, then it didn't really happen.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (2JVJo)
I know, I perceive that as well. It dovetails with something else I see that concerns me greatly - older people who I thought were conservative who don't have the mental capacity to face a fight. I know of at least 3 men personally (and their wives) who I thought were conservatives, who talked a big game, and who in the last 5 months have retreated into their houses, never go out, never talk to anyone, get all their groceries delivered, and who in the few brief communications say that they will NEVER leave their houses until there are NO more cases reported anywhere.
In other words, they've just given up completely and abandoned life. Just goes to show, you never know who's going to end up being a coward until they're tested.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 21, 2020 12:51 PM (2JVJo)
I know, I perceive that as well. It dovetails with something else I see that concerns me greatly - older people who I thought were conservative who don't have the mental capacity to face a fight. I know of at least 3 men personally (and their wives) who I thought were conservatives, who talked a big game, and who in the last 5 months have retreated into their houses, never go out, never talk to anyone, get all their groceries delivered, and who in the few brief communications say that they will NEVER leave their houses until there are NO more cases reported anywhere.
In other words, they've just given up completely and abandoned life. Just goes to show, you never know who's going to end up being a coward until they're tested.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (Kpl3J)
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198 The Hell I did.
I showed you, showed you, based on 2016 numbers - exactly how many votes would needed to be fraudulently counted to swing the election in one state, Minnesota, based on various theoretical Trump leads. And if you'd like to go back to the that thread - I'll show you how they can do it - based upon over-reporting in just a few places that went largely for Hillary in 2016.
And I did not use anything more mysterious than the 2016 numbers that are available on Wikipedia. Don't try and twist what I said.
Posted by: Round and Round We go at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (x8pK0)
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You're touchy.
"Democrats are going to cheat to victory no matter what!"
That's you. That's my impression of you.
I showed you, showed you, based on 2016 numbers - exactly how many votes would needed to be fraudulently counted to swing the election in one state, Minnesota, based on various theoretical Trump leads. And if you'd like to go back to the that thread - I'll show you how they can do it - based upon over-reporting in just a few places that went largely for Hillary in 2016.
And I did not use anything more mysterious than the 2016 numbers that are available on Wikipedia. Don't try and twist what I said.
Posted by: Round and Round We go at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (x8pK0)
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You're touchy.
"Democrats are going to cheat to victory no matter what!"
That's you. That's my impression of you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (UWqZJ)
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I'm leading in Penny because Pennsylvanians come from Quakers and Quakers know good oats when they see 'em.
Posted by: Lightworker Joe Biden at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (QE8X6)
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I've been Miss Thread Personality. Oh wait. No, I haven't.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (q2K0j)
That's because once you win the swimsuit competition you're out of the running for Personality.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (q2K0j)
That's because once you win the swimsuit competition you're out of the running for Personality.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (Xz7Fn)
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"Joe could have another stroke." Likely yes.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (qpX6U)
Comrade Biden is very ill. - Death of Biden, Act I
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM (qpX6U)
Comrade Biden is very ill. - Death of Biden, Act I
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (DLzZd)
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Question - how hopeful is it that we are going to be wearing masks in January?
Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2020 12:59 PM (ZfRYq)
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I'm breathlessly awaiting the next round of propaganda polls that show Biden got a 10-15-20%!! lift from that speech last night.
Posted by: Forheremenaremen at August 21, 2020 12:59 PM (pmRSz)
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Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (j9HX3)
since COVID we have mail-in in addition to Absentee. I had to print out a Mail-In application for an old lady who is afraid to vote in person due to scamdemic. Absentee is different.
since COVID we have mail-in in addition to Absentee. I had to print out a Mail-In application for an old lady who is afraid to vote in person due to scamdemic. Absentee is different.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 12:59 PM (DJFLF)
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Lots of ammo here. At home. In my safe.
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 12:59 PM (bCLt0)
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"That's because once you win the swimsuit competition you're out of the running for Personality.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (Xz7Fn)"
Poise matters just as much!
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (Xz7Fn)"
Poise matters just as much!
Posted by: Cosmo Kramer at August 21, 2020 12:59 PM (icI8A)
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I still think the Dems might try to get Biden to get Wuhan flu in the next couple of weeks.
Make him a martyr and blame Trump 24-7...
Make him a martyr and blame Trump 24-7...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 21, 2020 12:59 PM (qlFIA)
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Posted by: Round and Round We go at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (x8pK0)
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Defensive much?
You aren't changing many minds. Fraud can only do so much and the Dems pushed the envelope in 2016.
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Defensive much?
You aren't changing many minds. Fraud can only do so much and the Dems pushed the envelope in 2016.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at August 21, 2020 12:59 PM (4k/Uz)
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In the latest poll of 10 unlikely voters, none plan on voting for Trump.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2020 12:59 PM (jcBGX)
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>>I've been Miss Thread Personality. Oh wait. No, I haven't.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (q2K0j)
Most Likely to Sip a Penis, I would believe.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (q2K0j)
Most Likely to Sip a Penis, I would believe.
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (cOHy5)
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The position of Thread First Runner Up is important because if, for any reason, the Thread Winner is unable to fulfill the requirements of the office....
I've been Miss Thread Personality. Oh wait. No, I haven't.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (q2K0j)
I'm hoping for lurker of the day but I'd settle for lurker of the past 90 seconds.
I've been Miss Thread Personality. Oh wait. No, I haven't.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (q2K0j)
I'm hoping for lurker of the day but I'd settle for lurker of the past 90 seconds.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (lgiXo)
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Sinema is sane, but she is a democrat. She is not a centrist. She is not our friend. She wants Schumer to be majority leader.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (svbBD)
Woah, back up there for a sec.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 21, 2020 12:56 PM (svbBD)
Woah, back up there for a sec.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (NiXyF)
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Remember when every single news talking head called Trump 'dark' in 2016. All of them.
They're trying that again. Biden is getting sucked dry by consultants that get hammered on his dime and rehash old marketing from Clinton's campaign. LOL
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
They're trying that again. Biden is getting sucked dry by consultants that get hammered on his dime and rehash old marketing from Clinton's campaign. LOL
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
Posted by: MJ at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (gAMkn)
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89 Is Trump speaking extemporaneously now? He looks so relaxed and happy, and gives the impression he's having fun.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Charismatic MAGAfauna Exemplar at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM
He's going back and forth- reads a little, then emphasizes extempo.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Charismatic MAGAfauna Exemplar at August 21, 2020 12:46 PM
He's going back and forth- reads a little, then emphasizes extempo.
Posted by: Moonbeam at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (qe5CM)
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Am I still wearing Barrel Repellant?
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (NiXyF)
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That's you. That's my impression of you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (UWqZJ)
OOH
Is this a fight? I would like to know how this started.
*scrolls up*
That's you. That's my impression of you.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (UWqZJ)
OOH
Is this a fight? I would like to know how this started.
*scrolls up*
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (DJFLF)
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Just watched Trump's speech in Arlington, VA.
Compare careful, semi-engaged Joe vs. relaxed but focused Trump. No contest.
Compare careful, semi-engaged Joe vs. relaxed but focused Trump. No contest.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (bDqIh)
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Trump will win the electoral vote and maybe even the popular vote sans the fraud count. Antifa can only wreak havoc on a 6 block area in Portland or Seattle or the twin cities or Chicago or New York but not all at once.
Posted by: Fortcoins at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (pt7BY)
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since COVID we have mail-in in addition to Absentee. I had to print out a Mail-In application for an old lady who is afraid to vote in person due to scamdemic. Absentee is different.
are you sure about this? I've been following this in PA and there was no legislative change - I think it's more that the parties (diem and rep) are "helping" previous absentee voters with their ballots more than usual due to pandemic. they were already voting absentee and the parties "made sure" they were preapplied.
are you sure about this? I've been following this in PA and there was no legislative change - I think it's more that the parties (diem and rep) are "helping" previous absentee voters with their ballots more than usual due to pandemic. they were already voting absentee and the parties "made sure" they were preapplied.
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (j9HX3)
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>>Agree. No upside for Dems, so they will brazenly concoct some reason, which everyone expects them to do
There's an enormous downside if he refuses to debate. He and his team have been insisting for weeks they would be there.
Everyone on the planet knows Joe's biggest liability is his broken brain and if he won't debate Trump for the most important job in the world no amount of media spin is going to make people say they think Joe is super fine no matter what they say.
There's an enormous downside if he refuses to debate. He and his team have been insisting for weeks they would be there.
Everyone on the planet knows Joe's biggest liability is his broken brain and if he won't debate Trump for the most important job in the world no amount of media spin is going to make people say they think Joe is super fine no matter what they say.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (ZLI7S)
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Scott Presler has said Pennsylvania is critical and has done several clinics to register voters there.
Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (JKNZq)
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I get what Round is saying. I'm concerned about fraud too, just as I was in 2016. But they don't have the horses to do it under a microscope.
What they *will* do is run up the popular vote in deep blue areas that won't be questioned.
What they *will* do is run up the popular vote in deep blue areas that won't be questioned.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (Xz7Fn)
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Am I still wearing Barrel Repellant?
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (NiXyF)
Ancient Alien researchers say: Yes.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM (NiXyF)
Ancient Alien researchers say: Yes.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (NiXyF)
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I need to buy a .45. Niners are okay, but I may have to go for bigger game. Ideas, anyone??
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (bCLt0)
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I can't wait for the debates. It will be like the 1927 Yankees agains the Bad News Bears.
Posted by: JackStraw
Well, I think all of the 1927 Yankees are dead. So, could be a mismatch, after all.
Posted by: JackStraw
Well, I think all of the 1927 Yankees are dead. So, could be a mismatch, after all.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (vcOmj)
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What's normal for Pennsylvania?
4M registered Dems
3.2M registered GOP
1.2M registered other
We don't get party affiliation in the actual vote results, but both Trump and Clinton got a shade over 2.9M votes each. Another 270K went to other candidates.
4M registered Dems
3.2M registered GOP
1.2M registered other
We don't get party affiliation in the actual vote results, but both Trump and Clinton got a shade over 2.9M votes each. Another 270K went to other candidates.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (5p7BC)
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By the way, Gettysburgh is in Pennsylvania. That was where they had a big Civil War battle. Afterwards Lincoln went on TV and said "the world will little note nor long remember." What was I talking about again?
Posted by: Lightworker Joe Biden at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (QE8X6)
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National polls that don't weigh for the EC are useless. Who care if you under sample men/wharmtever if you over sample California?
Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (7vz7U)
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There is NO WAY the debates go on. If things are this tight in the swing states according to the usual suspects, can you imagine what kind of landslide would ensue?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (XrCyE)
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I still don't think they can allow Joe to debate. Now it will hurt them for him to duck out, but I think they're going to choose that hurt rather than the "oh my god he's cracked" hurt a debate would cause.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (Kpl3J)
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219 In other words, they've just given up completely and abandoned life. Just goes to show, you never know who's going to end up being a coward until they're tested.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (Kpl3J)
Yes, there are a lot of people like that. I am quite amazed by it, actually.
Either you live your life as you wish (NO MASKS!) or you don't.
So tired of people who talk the game, but are cowards.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (Kpl3J)
Yes, there are a lot of people like that. I am quite amazed by it, actually.
Either you live your life as you wish (NO MASKS!) or you don't.
So tired of people who talk the game, but are cowards.
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (/rsCS)
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I'd point and laugh at all you Sinema groupies but I can't remember if I thought she was asshoe or if I wanted to squeeze her whampalangas because she stood up and clapped for Trump, so i won't judge.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (+dsLj)
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Biden's plan is to hide in his basement and not leave.
Hillary tried the 'avoid going to states to meet people' plan and it backfired.
Biden literally thinks if he sets up zoom meetings each day that people are going to tune in.
Hillary tried the 'avoid going to states to meet people' plan and it backfired.
Biden literally thinks if he sets up zoom meetings each day that people are going to tune in.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (2O5Io)
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I'm thinking Aliens or maybe biologically enhanced Otters.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:53 PM (2O5Io)
.......
The aliens would vote Trump after examining their wives.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 12:53 PM (2O5Io)
.......
The aliens would vote Trump after examining their wives.
Posted by: CNN at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (v0R5T)
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Hillary is on the sidelines ... ready to be put in Joe's place ... after she has him murd--- .. I mean in case he has a stroke.
She also has her new special handlers in the FBI still ready to blame Trump for poor Joe's untimely demise.
heh ... but it is weird to see Hilda's face out there again, claiming she won, Trump stole it. Clinton Foundation doing just fine, no indictments on that fraud ... some say they are coming I guess ... tick tock.
She also has her new special handlers in the FBI still ready to blame Trump for poor Joe's untimely demise.
heh ... but it is weird to see Hilda's face out there again, claiming she won, Trump stole it. Clinton Foundation doing just fine, no indictments on that fraud ... some say they are coming I guess ... tick tock.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (Cus5s)
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The Democrats are likely hoping Biden will stroke out immediately after a mean tweet by Trump.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (lgiXo)
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Scott Presler has said Pennsylvania is critical and has done several clinics to register voters there.
Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (JKNZq)
Door Knockers everyday, sign wars, national press behind every tree. Good times.
Posted by: notsothoreau at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (JKNZq)
Door Knockers everyday, sign wars, national press behind every tree. Good times.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (Xwuv1)
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Quaker Goatmeal, it's the right thing to do.
Posted by: Goatford Brimley at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (Jwrt+)
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239 Just watched Trump's speech in Arlington, VA.
Compare careful, semi-engaged Joe vs. relaxed but focused Trump. No contest.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM
He did a great job! Columbus part was hilarious.
Compare careful, semi-engaged Joe vs. relaxed but focused Trump. No contest.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2020 01:00 PM
He did a great job! Columbus part was hilarious.
Posted by: Moonbeam at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (qe5CM)
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Sane or not, Sinema is much better looking than AOC.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (icI8A)
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>>Remember when every single news talking head called Trump 'dark' in 2016. All of them.
Yeah, go with that!
Trump on the difference between running against Hillary vs. Biden:
"Want me to tell you the difference? It's very easy: Hillary is smarter, but nit likable. Joe is a likable guy, but he's not smart."
Ouch! And then he said something like, "I don't know, maybe it is better run against someone who is smarter." Zing!
Yeah, go with that!
Trump on the difference between running against Hillary vs. Biden:
"Want me to tell you the difference? It's very easy: Hillary is smarter, but nit likable. Joe is a likable guy, but he's not smart."
Ouch! And then he said something like, "I don't know, maybe it is better run against someone who is smarter." Zing!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (bDqIh)
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It's a national emergency because it's how the D's planned to steal the election this time around.
The big tell?
How they're fixated on those big blue mailboxes.
The US Postal Service has delivered and picked up straight from every home in America for over a century, but they're saying it an electoral crisis when the big blue things are becoming rarer over the last decade.
Why would you need those?
Because you cannot mail 150 ballots from your house.
The big tell?
How they're fixated on those big blue mailboxes.
The US Postal Service has delivered and picked up straight from every home in America for over a century, but they're saying it an electoral crisis when the big blue things are becoming rarer over the last decade.
Why would you need those?
Because you cannot mail 150 ballots from your house.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (KZzsI)
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Good or bad I don't think the debates will swing the needle unless Biden has a dementia sundown.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (jcBGX)
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Things are moderner...
...they're bigger...
...yet...smaller...
... ... ...computers...
SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!!!!!
Fat.
...they're bigger...
...yet...smaller...
... ... ...computers...
SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!!!!!
Fat.
Posted by: Joe Biden no malarkey at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (lvwTq)
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246 I need to buy a .45. Niners are okay, but I may have to go for bigger game. Ideas, anyone??
Posted by: tubal
I love my Rock Island 1911.
Posted by: tubal
I love my Rock Island 1911.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (W2Pud)
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Somewhere in the middle of the Central African Republic are a bunch of kids who think that Hillary won in 2016 and that the Buffalo Bills are 4 time Super Bowl champions.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (icI8A)
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Ah, but the strawberries....I proved, with geometric logic! That a duplicate electoral vote had been made.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (icI8A)
LOL! I was thinking something like that!
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM (icI8A)
LOL! I was thinking something like that!
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (Kpl3J)
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" no amount of media spin is going to make people say they think Joe is super fine no matter what they say."
Everybody knows already. All Dems know that Biden is just a Trojan Horse, and they are fine with that.
Everybody knows already. All Dems know that Biden is just a Trojan Horse, and they are fine with that.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (qpX6U)
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Biden will try to campaign once they realize he's behind.
But it'll be too late. And he's a barely functioning old man which isn't helpful.
He'll def debate. He can't back out and have any hope.
But it'll be too late. And he's a barely functioning old man which isn't helpful.
He'll def debate. He can't back out and have any hope.
Posted by: MJ at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (gAMkn)
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I undstand your position, Jack, but I think a Biden/ Trump debate result coould rise to Catastrophic Disaster level, considering Biden's Dementia. They Democrats are in a trapp on this.
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 01:05 PM (bCLt0)
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I'm still very cautious about the numbers right now. You cannot just look at the current polls (nor can you assume they're automatically undercounting Trump voters, although they likely are). You also have to look at the trends approach election day, which is still off a bit. They turned sharply against Hillary the last couple of weeks in 2016. Since MI, PA and WI has a lot of the same blue collar voters that OH has, in retrospect it was mistake to discount them as I did.
That said, the current trend is moving Trump's way. A number of states I have him losing narrowly, or are still in the tossup stage right now, are moving the right direction. There are also the ongoing riots and their impact on voters. Right now, we're 80+ days of riots in MN. Absent that, I'd give the state to Biden due to a lot of things. But if the unrest continues, the state probably goes to Trump. My current EV projection has Trump at 270-268 or 269-269, the latter of which would be awful. However, a small move puts another 30-60 EVs in play for him to win.
I expect Trump to lose the deep blue states by an even larger margin this time, but am right now predicting a narrow EV victory or tie. A small move his way makes the narrow EV victory a large one which, coupled with a 4%-5% popular vote loss, is going to drive the left even more insane.
Also, be on guard against the left's post-election tactics in states they narrowly lose. See Gore 2000 writ large this time, with even more shenanigans (ballot harvesting) at work.
I still cannot get a feel for the House and Senate yet. Too many variables at work. And yes, I know this will be viewed as overly pessimistic, but it's just how I see the numbers right now. I will say that picking Harris was probably not a great choice. She and Biden are aided greatly in that people won't see much of them in person before the election and that's entirely by design. Fewer voters will see how unlikable she is and how much in decline he is.
Less than 3 months to go. I hope to be making cocktails out of leftist tears on election night.
That said, the current trend is moving Trump's way. A number of states I have him losing narrowly, or are still in the tossup stage right now, are moving the right direction. There are also the ongoing riots and their impact on voters. Right now, we're 80+ days of riots in MN. Absent that, I'd give the state to Biden due to a lot of things. But if the unrest continues, the state probably goes to Trump. My current EV projection has Trump at 270-268 or 269-269, the latter of which would be awful. However, a small move puts another 30-60 EVs in play for him to win.
I expect Trump to lose the deep blue states by an even larger margin this time, but am right now predicting a narrow EV victory or tie. A small move his way makes the narrow EV victory a large one which, coupled with a 4%-5% popular vote loss, is going to drive the left even more insane.
Also, be on guard against the left's post-election tactics in states they narrowly lose. See Gore 2000 writ large this time, with even more shenanigans (ballot harvesting) at work.
I still cannot get a feel for the House and Senate yet. Too many variables at work. And yes, I know this will be viewed as overly pessimistic, but it's just how I see the numbers right now. I will say that picking Harris was probably not a great choice. She and Biden are aided greatly in that people won't see much of them in person before the election and that's entirely by design. Fewer voters will see how unlikable she is and how much in decline he is.
Less than 3 months to go. I hope to be making cocktails out of leftist tears on election night.
Posted by: physics geek at August 21, 2020 01:05 PM (huQJB)
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Because you cannot mail 150 ballots from your house.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (KZzsI)
This is why we keep you around.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (KZzsI)
This is why we keep you around.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 01:05 PM (Xz7Fn)
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In other words, they've just given up completely and
abandoned life. Just goes to show, you never know who's going to end up
being a coward until they're tested.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (Kpl3J)
Yes, there are a lot of people like that. I am quite amazed by it, actually.
Either you live your life as you wish (NO MASKS!) or you don't.
So tired of people who talk the game, but are cowards.
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (/rsCS)
Asleep in their beds and holding their manhoods cheap.
abandoned life. Just goes to show, you never know who's going to end up
being a coward until they're tested.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 12:58 PM (Kpl3J)
Yes, there are a lot of people like that. I am quite amazed by it, actually.
Either you live your life as you wish (NO MASKS!) or you don't.
So tired of people who talk the game, but are cowards.
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (/rsCS)
Asleep in their beds and holding their manhoods cheap.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2020 01:05 PM (DLzZd)
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Sinema is the one who called her potential voters racist dregs, and they still voted for her because she is kinda hot.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2020 01:05 PM (jcBGX)
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267 246 I need to buy a .45. Niners are okay, but I may have to go for bigger game. Ideas, anyone??
Posted by: tubal
I love my Rock Island 1911.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (W2Pud)
Seven round mag??
Posted by: tubal
I love my Rock Island 1911.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (W2Pud)
Seven round mag??
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 01:05 PM (bCLt0)
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"I need to buy a .45. Niners are okay, but I may have to go for bigger game. Ideas, anyone??"
G21 for the win.
G21 for the win.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (qpX6U)
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262 Sane or not, Sinema is much better looking than AOC.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (icI8A)
you just like Thigh High Stompy Boots.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (icI8A)
you just like Thigh High Stompy Boots.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (Kpl3J)
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>>He did a great job! Columbus part was hilarious.
He is really funny.
That's one thing the Left cannot see. They think he's vitriolic and mean (uh, look in a mirror).
He can insult, but it's funny, not ". . .and I hope your kid is raped, too REEEEEE!" craziness
He is really funny.
That's one thing the Left cannot see. They think he's vitriolic and mean (uh, look in a mirror).
He can insult, but it's funny, not ". . .and I hope your kid is raped, too REEEEEE!" craziness
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (bDqIh)
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267 246 I need to buy a .45. Niners are okay, but I may have to go for bigger game. Ideas, anyone??
Posted by: tubal
I love my Rock Island 1911.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (W2Pud
Ed Brown
Posted by: tubal
I love my Rock Island 1911.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (W2Pud
Ed Brown
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (2O5Io)
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All Dems know that Biden is just a Trojan Horse, and they are fine with that.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (qpX6U)
Exactly. These commie bastards think they're being clever. Really. That passes for clever.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (qpX6U)
Exactly. These commie bastards think they're being clever. Really. That passes for clever.
Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (BRkq2)
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Coulter had tweeted the same question I had earlier ... "QUESTION: How do we know Biden's speech was live? Maybe he was doing different takes all day until they got one where he didn't stumble all over himself."
imo, we don't know that, do we?
imo, we don't know that, do we?
Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (Cus5s)
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We don't get party affiliation in the actual vote results,
We did get significant Obama-won counties flipping to Trump in 2016 though. That's a good gauge of disaffected dems.
We did get significant Obama-won counties flipping to Trump in 2016 though. That's a good gauge of disaffected dems.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (DJFLF)
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Good or bad I don't think the debates will swing the needle unless Biden has a dementia sundown.
The chances of that are 100%. He cannot stand there for a couple of hours. That's shy they bumrushed Bernie to the door when it was time for the two of them to debate.
The chances of that are 100%. He cannot stand there for a couple of hours. That's shy they bumrushed Bernie to the door when it was time for the two of them to debate.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (XrCyE)
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>> Sane or not, Sinema is much better looking than AOC.
I am assuming you mean without the bag to cover their faces?
Because, with the bags on I might have to go with AOC?
Gotta check the hips, first.
I am assuming you mean without the bag to cover their faces?
Because, with the bags on I might have to go with AOC?
Gotta check the hips, first.
Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (eW7HS)
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I know, I perceive that as well. It dovetails with something else I see that concerns me greatly - older people who I thought were conservative who don't have the mental capacity to face a fight. I know of at least 3 men personally (and their wives) who I thought were conservatives, who talked a big game, and who in the last 5 months have retreated into their houses, never go out, never talk to anyone, get all their groceries delivered, and who in the few brief communications say that they will NEVER leave their houses until there are NO more cases reported anywhere.
In other words, they've just given up completely and abandoned life. Just goes to show, you never know who's going to end up being a coward until they're tested.
Posted by: Tom Servo
.........
Da fuq?
What does that have to do with how conservative you are?
My wife has some problematic health issues.. I do NOT want her getting the Wuhan flu.. so.. we are both extremely careful about getting out.. I do all the errands and she stays in a lot.
How the fuck is that cowardice in your mind?
Sometimes I don't fucking understand you guys..
I know, I perceive that as well. It dovetails with something else I see that concerns me greatly - older people who I thought were conservative who don't have the mental capacity to face a fight. I know of at least 3 men personally (and their wives) who I thought were conservatives, who talked a big game, and who in the last 5 months have retreated into their houses, never go out, never talk to anyone, get all their groceries delivered, and who in the few brief communications say that they will NEVER leave their houses until there are NO more cases reported anywhere.
In other words, they've just given up completely and abandoned life. Just goes to show, you never know who's going to end up being a coward until they're tested.
Posted by: Tom Servo
.........
Da fuq?
What does that have to do with how conservative you are?
My wife has some problematic health issues.. I do NOT want her getting the Wuhan flu.. so.. we are both extremely careful about getting out.. I do all the errands and she stays in a lot.
How the fuck is that cowardice in your mind?
Sometimes I don't fucking understand you guys..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (CjFDo)
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People like Scott Presler on Twitter do give me some
hope.. they are out there doing voter registration drives (when he's
not getting a 100 volunteers to do 50 ton trash clean ups in cities like
Baltimore and L.A.)
and it might be enough to turn the tide...
https://tinyurl.com/yycfdcut
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM
There's an actual GOP ground game in my area this time around. I've had canvassers come by three times already.
hope.. they are out there doing voter registration drives (when he's
not getting a 100 volunteers to do 50 ton trash clean ups in cities like
Baltimore and L.A.)
and it might be enough to turn the tide...
https://tinyurl.com/yycfdcut
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 12:55 PM
There's an actual GOP ground game in my area this time around. I've had canvassers come by three times already.
Posted by: Bert G at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (OMsf+)
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National polls that don't weigh for the EC are useless. Who care if you under sample men/wharmtever if you over sample California?
Posted by: Tonic Dog
There are places (area codes if you think of phone polls) that are deep wells of Democrat OR Republican support.
Depending on who you call, or randomly, who you call, you can get some very skewed numbers.
Yeah, for example if you sample a bunch of California area codes, you can get the "predictable" results.
Internal polling done by the candidates hired guns are probably more systematically "honest", but then again, maybe not. And we don't see those.
Posted by: Tonic Dog
There are places (area codes if you think of phone polls) that are deep wells of Democrat OR Republican support.
Depending on who you call, or randomly, who you call, you can get some very skewed numbers.
Yeah, for example if you sample a bunch of California area codes, you can get the "predictable" results.
Internal polling done by the candidates hired guns are probably more systematically "honest", but then again, maybe not. And we don't see those.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (vcOmj)
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Biden ducks any debate and DJT uses the WWE ring to taunt him from.
Posted by: BluesFish at August 21, 2020 01:07 PM (QPMQ7)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:07 PM (W2Pud)
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>>Everybody knows already. All Dems know that Biden is just a Trojan Horse, and they are fine with that.
You do realize that not everybody in the country is a Democrat or a Republican, right?
Oh course he will get the vast majority of his base even if he unzips his pants and starts playing with Little Joe on stage. The goal is to win persuadable voters just like it is in every election.
Democrats have an enormous enthusiasm gap and Independents are trending toward Trump. Slow Joe is not going to win by sitting in his basement sending out videos nobody watches.
You do realize that not everybody in the country is a Democrat or a Republican, right?
Oh course he will get the vast majority of his base even if he unzips his pants and starts playing with Little Joe on stage. The goal is to win persuadable voters just like it is in every election.
Democrats have an enormous enthusiasm gap and Independents are trending toward Trump. Slow Joe is not going to win by sitting in his basement sending out videos nobody watches.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 01:07 PM (ZLI7S)
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We visited Gettysburg, PA earlier this summer, first week of July as a matter of fact. Right after the actual 3 day battle. First time for both of us.
It was a hot day, and the grounds were appropriately solemn, even with plenty of visitors. Thinking about the carnage wrought on that field made me hope that we can fight these fights at the ballot box, and nowhere else. But the democrats, then as now, seem to be willing to fight by all means necessary.
It was a hot day, and the grounds were appropriately solemn, even with plenty of visitors. Thinking about the carnage wrought on that field made me hope that we can fight these fights at the ballot box, and nowhere else. But the democrats, then as now, seem to be willing to fight by all means necessary.
Posted by: Boots at August 21, 2020 01:07 PM (oGBso)
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"Right now, we're 80+ days of riots in MN."
Minnesota Progressives _want_ riots and anarchy. Riots == Social Justice.
Minnesota Progressives _want_ riots and anarchy. Riots == Social Justice.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:07 PM (qpX6U)
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You can Bing Sinema Mormoncleavage if you want.
Posted by: fly at August 21, 2020 01:07 PM (2M/TV)
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People have been asking me, "what do I mean by 'light' versus 'darkness.'" No, it's not about the color of skin. I'm not saying there's something wrong with dark-skinned people. That ain't no dog whistle.
Posted by: Lightworker Joe Biden at August 21, 2020 01:08 PM (QE8X6)
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In the latest gossip news:
Britney Spears now looks like a parody version of a tranny imitating Britney Spears in a drag show, as she emerges from her cave to say she's not crazy:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ article-8649585/Britney-Spears-thanks-fans-support- Instagram-post-video-listing-favorite-things.html
Leave Britney alone? I will not! I will humiliate her!
Britney Spears now looks like a parody version of a tranny imitating Britney Spears in a drag show, as she emerges from her cave to say she's not crazy:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ article-8649585/Britney-Spears-thanks-fans-support- Instagram-post-video-listing-favorite-things.html
Leave Britney alone? I will not! I will humiliate her!
Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2020 01:08 PM (HEEq1)
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Wait -those assclowns had a four day fun fest of bullshit and that doddering clusterphuck of a stammering dildo is statistically tied with Trump in a state he is supposed to win in a landslide????
Holy shit!!!!
Holy shit!!!!
Posted by: Kdizzydaze at August 21, 2020 01:08 PM (h4Aeo)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:08 PM (KZzsI)
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Biden will try to campaign once they realize he's behind.
But it'll be too late. And he's a barely functioning old man which isn't helpful.
He'll def debate. He can't back out and have any hope.
Posted by: MJ at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (gAMkn)
The MFM will screech that "Trump's conditions for debating are absolutely unacceptable and totally unfair."
They'll say ANYTHING that will get Biden off the hook for debates.
If somehow they fail at that, they'll rig the debates so that every question will be pre-selected and vetted, and no interchange between the two candidates will be allowed. Probably a split-screen "virtual debate."
But it'll be too late. And he's a barely functioning old man which isn't helpful.
He'll def debate. He can't back out and have any hope.
Posted by: MJ at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (gAMkn)
The MFM will screech that "Trump's conditions for debating are absolutely unacceptable and totally unfair."
They'll say ANYTHING that will get Biden off the hook for debates.
If somehow they fail at that, they'll rig the debates so that every question will be pre-selected and vetted, and no interchange between the two candidates will be allowed. Probably a split-screen "virtual debate."
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (NiXyF)
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"Sometimes I don't fucking understand you guys.."
This is not the venue for serious debate. It is the venue for lulz and outrage.
This is not the venue for serious debate. It is the venue for lulz and outrage.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (qpX6U)
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Democrats have an enormous enthusiasm gap and Independents are trending toward Trump. Slow Joe is not going to win by sitting in his basement sending out videos nobody watches.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 01:07 PM (ZLI7S)
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It's like the dotcom boom, to a certain degree.
Democrats have an enormous enthusiasm gap and Independents are trending toward Trump. Slow Joe is not going to win by sitting in his basement sending out videos nobody watches.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 01:07 PM (ZLI7S)
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It's like the dotcom boom, to a certain degree.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (UWqZJ)
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299 This is why we keep you around.
Well, I can keep a seat warm, too
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:08 PM (KZzsI)
As long as we get the Letter, right?
Well, I can keep a seat warm, too
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:08 PM (KZzsI)
As long as we get the Letter, right?
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (bCLt0)
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are you sure about this?
Yes, we printed this off the website. I don't think there has to be a legislative change since the dems hold the SecState position, which runs the elections.
Yes, we printed this off the website. I don't think there has to be a legislative change since the dems hold the SecState position, which runs the elections.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (DJFLF)
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Portland is Antifa's playground
Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (J8nVw)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (uZhvl)
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Agreed, Dems in trap on "debates".
Don't see how they could risk having even one.
But sort of* trapped into doing them, including by their own statements.
* in 2020, so much of the electorate, esp. the Dem base, is so, so, so dumbed-down, tribal, ignorant, hate-filled, emotional, etc. that the risk of refusing "debates" is much less than it would have been at any time since they started
Don't see how they could risk having even one.
But sort of* trapped into doing them, including by their own statements.
* in 2020, so much of the electorate, esp. the Dem base, is so, so, so dumbed-down, tribal, ignorant, hate-filled, emotional, etc. that the risk of refusing "debates" is much less than it would have been at any time since they started
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (OTzUX)
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Local coverage of the protests against Biden in DE last night:
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1296626578886217728
https://tinyurl.com/y4zyysbh
Re: the second link, it's from a Gannett-owned paper, so they also defend Biden and try to throw shade on the protesters.
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1296626578886217728
https://tinyurl.com/y4zyysbh
Re: the second link, it's from a Gannett-owned paper, so they also defend Biden and try to throw shade on the protesters.
Posted by: gdgm+ at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (ExnWy)
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The MFM will screech that "Trump's conditions for debating are absolutely unacceptable and totally unfair."
They'll say ANYTHING that will get Biden off the hook for debates.
If somehow they fail at that, they'll rig the debates so that every question will be pre-selected and vetted, and no interchange between the two candidates will be allowed. Probably a split-screen "virtual debate."
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (NiXyF)
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"I knew it! Trump didn't want to debate!"
-Allahpundit
The MFM will screech that "Trump's conditions for debating are absolutely unacceptable and totally unfair."
They'll say ANYTHING that will get Biden off the hook for debates.
If somehow they fail at that, they'll rig the debates so that every question will be pre-selected and vetted, and no interchange between the two candidates will be allowed. Probably a split-screen "virtual debate."
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (NiXyF)
=========
"I knew it! Trump didn't want to debate!"
-Allahpundit
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (UWqZJ)
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Joe could have another stroke. Likely yes.
Yeah, that's not going to be a problem. They'll just turn him into a 21st century Christopher Pike*, slap him in a chair, and proclaim that people who can only communicate via yes/ no beeps are just as capable as everyone else!
*star trek tos "The Menagerie"
Yeah, that's not going to be a problem. They'll just turn him into a 21st century Christopher Pike*, slap him in a chair, and proclaim that people who can only communicate via yes/ no beeps are just as capable as everyone else!
*star trek tos "The Menagerie"
Posted by: shibumi, awaiting SMOD at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (ZCiJZ)
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>>There's an actual GOP ground game in my area this time around. I've had canvassers come by three times already.
A point I saw about ground game: there is little, if any, GOTV efforts in blue cities/areas because they are lawless messes. Would you go door-to-door in Portland to get people registered?
Michelle Obama is leading up a nationwide campaign, but that's not the same thing.
A point I saw about ground game: there is little, if any, GOTV efforts in blue cities/areas because they are lawless messes. Would you go door-to-door in Portland to get people registered?
Michelle Obama is leading up a nationwide campaign, but that's not the same thing.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2020 01:10 PM (bDqIh)
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122 Trump as a lame duck will invoke the insurrection act and drone strike every protestor in the country, declare the pandemic over and arrest everybody in the DOJ bureaucracy, including Barr.
And that's just the first day of his second term.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (+dsLj)
Actually, this is an interesting point.
Whatever Trump is going to do to 'settle all family business' after Election Day, including whatever Durham comes up with, he'll only have two years to do it.
After the 2022 midterms, the sleeper Ryan cells in Congress are going to awaken to completely gum up the works for a Lame Duck Trump.
And that's just the first day of his second term.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Being Kim Klacik's Love Bunny Snuggle at August 21, 2020 12:49 PM (+dsLj)
Actually, this is an interesting point.
Whatever Trump is going to do to 'settle all family business' after Election Day, including whatever Durham comes up with, he'll only have two years to do it.
After the 2022 midterms, the sleeper Ryan cells in Congress are going to awaken to completely gum up the works for a Lame Duck Trump.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2020 01:10 PM (6xA3t)
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Because you cannot mail 150 ballots from your house.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (KZzsI)
This is why we keep you around.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 01:05 PM (Xz7Fn)
I thought we kept him around to mop The Barrel? I mean, SOMEONE has to do it.
Because you cannot mail 150 ballots from your house.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:03 PM (KZzsI)
This is why we keep you around.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 01:05 PM (Xz7Fn)
I thought we kept him around to mop The Barrel? I mean, SOMEONE has to do it.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 21, 2020 01:10 PM (EGyGV)
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Marquise Lee Love was booked in the Multnomah County Detention Center on Friday shortly after 5:30 a.m. local time, according to jail records. He was charged with assault, coercion and riot, all three of which are felonies, records show.
That's a real shame. I had hoped that he'd have been discovered and picked up by police at two or more locations.
Marquise Lee Love was booked in the Multnomah County Detention Center on Friday shortly after 5:30 a.m. local time, according to jail records. He was charged with assault, coercion and riot, all three of which are felonies, records show.
That's a real shame. I had hoped that he'd have been discovered and picked up by police at two or more locations.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 21, 2020 01:10 PM (pNxlR)
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270 " no amount of media spin is going to make people say they think Joe is super fine no matter what they say."
Everybody knows already. All Dems know that Biden is just a Trojan Horse, and they are fine with that.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (qpX6U)
Low fo voters don't have a clue. People who are engaged politically have absolutely no sense of just how low fo a low fo voter is.
I'll give you a hint: They have something in common with Joe Biden. They barely know who he *is*.
Everybody knows already. All Dems know that Biden is just a Trojan Horse, and they are fine with that.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:04 PM (qpX6U)
Low fo voters don't have a clue. People who are engaged politically have absolutely no sense of just how low fo a low fo voter is.
I'll give you a hint: They have something in common with Joe Biden. They barely know who he *is*.
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 01:10 PM (Xz7Fn)
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Black Orchid, refer to VotesPA website. I can't link to it right now.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 01:10 PM (DJFLF)
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I'll say it again, I'm in this thing to draw on the best of us, not the worst of us. And I'm gonna do it naked by the pool.
Posted by: Lightworker Joe Biden at August 21, 2020 01:10 PM (QE8X6)
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Margin of Error is a 95% confidence interval. The distribution or uncertainty is the center of a bell curve containing 95% of the probability. Statistically, if someone is ahead in a poll, they more likely than not are actually ahead. That said though, MOE applies to both candidate's numbers.
Here is a cool calculator from a Republican polling firm that gets the odds someone is ahead based on sample size. In this situation, the sampling uncertainty (which is what MOE represents) suggests a 79% chance that Biden is ahead.
https://americanresearchgroup.com/moe2.html
Here is a cool calculator from a Republican polling firm that gets the odds someone is ahead based on sample size. In this situation, the sampling uncertainty (which is what MOE represents) suggests a 79% chance that Biden is ahead.
https://americanresearchgroup.com/moe2.html
Posted by: lurker at August 21, 2020 01:10 PM (XyP4n)
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Here is the statement of how this poll was conducted by Muhlenberg College:
The following report contains the results of a telephone survey of 416 likely voters in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania between August 11 and 17, 2020.
Respondents were interviewed in English on both landlines (105) and cell phones (311). With a randomly selected sample of respondents, the margin of error for the surveys is +/- 5.5% at a 95% level of confidence. Margins of error for questions with smaller sample size will be larger. In addition to sampling error, one should consider that question wording and other fielding issues can introduce or bias into survey results. Interviewing was conducted by Communications Concepts of Easton, Pennsylvania under protocols established by the MCIPO. The data has been weighted to gender, age, region, race and educational attainment to reflect voter population parameters. The calculation of sampling error takes into account design effects due to the weighting identified above. In order to reach a representative sample of registered voters both landlines and cell phones were called up to 3 times. Teh response rate for this survey as calculated using the American Association of Public Opinion Resaerch (AAPOR) RRII formula is approximately 11%. The sampling frame for the study is from the registered voters files of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. To determine likely voters, only voters who have voted in 1 or more of the last 4 general elections (2016 - 2019), or who is a new registrant since November of 2016 were included in the sampling frame. In addition, only survey respondents from this frame who indicated that they were "definitely" or "very likely" to vote in the November election were included in the sample."
From https://www.muhlenberg.edu/aug2020election/
1. Taken before the DNC Snoozefest of Lies, Serial Murderers and Sex Criminals.
2. Likely Voters don't seem that likely, definitionally.
3. Absolutely no idea of party affiliation ("randomly selected sample of respondents").
4. 11% of the people called responded to the poll.
5. Cell phones were the majority of the calls, rather than land line.
6. I can't find any decent information about the company that did the survey, Communication Concepts of Easton, Pennsylvania, or its owner, Timothy D. Butler.
Make what you will of all this.
The following report contains the results of a telephone survey of 416 likely voters in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania between August 11 and 17, 2020.
Respondents were interviewed in English on both landlines (105) and cell phones (311). With a randomly selected sample of respondents, the margin of error for the surveys is +/- 5.5% at a 95% level of confidence. Margins of error for questions with smaller sample size will be larger. In addition to sampling error, one should consider that question wording and other fielding issues can introduce or bias into survey results. Interviewing was conducted by Communications Concepts of Easton, Pennsylvania under protocols established by the MCIPO. The data has been weighted to gender, age, region, race and educational attainment to reflect voter population parameters. The calculation of sampling error takes into account design effects due to the weighting identified above. In order to reach a representative sample of registered voters both landlines and cell phones were called up to 3 times. Teh response rate for this survey as calculated using the American Association of Public Opinion Resaerch (AAPOR) RRII formula is approximately 11%. The sampling frame for the study is from the registered voters files of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. To determine likely voters, only voters who have voted in 1 or more of the last 4 general elections (2016 - 2019), or who is a new registrant since November of 2016 were included in the sampling frame. In addition, only survey respondents from this frame who indicated that they were "definitely" or "very likely" to vote in the November election were included in the sample."
From https://www.muhlenberg.edu/aug2020election/
1. Taken before the DNC Snoozefest of Lies, Serial Murderers and Sex Criminals.
2. Likely Voters don't seem that likely, definitionally.
3. Absolutely no idea of party affiliation ("randomly selected sample of respondents").
4. 11% of the people called responded to the poll.
5. Cell phones were the majority of the calls, rather than land line.
6. I can't find any decent information about the company that did the survey, Communication Concepts of Easton, Pennsylvania, or its owner, Timothy D. Butler.
Make what you will of all this.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (BM2fS)
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So tired of people who talk the game, but are cowards.
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (/rsCS)
Asleep in their beds and holding their manhoods cheap.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2020 01:05 PM (DLzZd)
Whenever this is all over, and they emerge, I'm sure they'll want to talk to me and be friendly, and I'll smile and talk to them, and all the while I'll be thinking "Sure, I can talk nice, you disgusting spineless worm of a man."
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (/rsCS)
Asleep in their beds and holding their manhoods cheap.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 21, 2020 01:05 PM (DLzZd)
Whenever this is all over, and they emerge, I'm sure they'll want to talk to me and be friendly, and I'll smile and talk to them, and all the while I'll be thinking "Sure, I can talk nice, you disgusting spineless worm of a man."
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (Kpl3J)
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Regarding fraud...
I've watched the MSNBC election night coverage a few times now, and the most interesting aspect for me is the reporting of Chris Matthews who was talking to one of the Philly Bosses. They were very confident that they were going to turn out vote totals for Clinton that exceeded the results for Obama.
And they did.
Matthews was 100% certain that Clinton would win PA based on that source of information.
That right there is the way the fraud works. The Dems have vote targets for their strongholds and the bosses are tasked with hitting those totals. Clinton exceeded targets in early voting and election day voting in key areas, such as Philly and Broward county. This is why they were so confident that they had it won.
They had already turned the crank on the fraud machine and manufactured all the votes they needed. They didn't count on red counties having so many people show up that hadn't voted before.
I personally think they squeezed this lemon dry in in 2016, I don't think they can get many more illegal votes without ending up in a court challenge and getting the votes in their precincts invalidated.
I've watched the MSNBC election night coverage a few times now, and the most interesting aspect for me is the reporting of Chris Matthews who was talking to one of the Philly Bosses. They were very confident that they were going to turn out vote totals for Clinton that exceeded the results for Obama.
And they did.
Matthews was 100% certain that Clinton would win PA based on that source of information.
That right there is the way the fraud works. The Dems have vote targets for their strongholds and the bosses are tasked with hitting those totals. Clinton exceeded targets in early voting and election day voting in key areas, such as Philly and Broward county. This is why they were so confident that they had it won.
They had already turned the crank on the fraud machine and manufactured all the votes they needed. They didn't count on red counties having so many people show up that hadn't voted before.
I personally think they squeezed this lemon dry in in 2016, I don't think they can get many more illegal votes without ending up in a court challenge and getting the votes in their precincts invalidated.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (5p7BC)
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I thought we kept him around to mop The Barrel? I mean, SOMEONE has to do it.
About that, I need a new hazmat suit, the legs rotted out of the last one
About that, I need a new hazmat suit, the legs rotted out of the last one
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (KZzsI)
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Whoa.
Posted by: The Duke of Ted at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (Jwrt+)
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the latest gossip news:
Britney Spears now looks like a parody version of a tranny imitating Britney Spears in a drag show, as she emerges from her cave to say she's not crazy:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ article-8649585/Britney-Spears-thanks-fans-support- Instagram-post-video-listing-favorite-things.html
Leave Britney alone? I will not! I will humiliate her!
Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2020 01:08 PM (HEEq1)
Has anyone here watched Craig Ferguson's monologue about Spears and his battle with alcoholism and drug addiction?
I thought it was very good.
Britney Spears now looks like a parody version of a tranny imitating Britney Spears in a drag show, as she emerges from her cave to say she's not crazy:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ article-8649585/Britney-Spears-thanks-fans-support- Instagram-post-video-listing-favorite-things.html
Leave Britney alone? I will not! I will humiliate her!
Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2020 01:08 PM (HEEq1)
Has anyone here watched Craig Ferguson's monologue about Spears and his battle with alcoholism and drug addiction?
I thought it was very good.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (lgiXo)
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>>There's an actual GOP ground game in my area this time around. I've had canvassers come by three times already.
I'll say it again, the RNC has helped add a net 165,000 new Republican voters in PA. The DNC has added a net 30,000.
This is not 2016.
I'll say it again, the RNC has helped add a net 165,000 new Republican voters in PA. The DNC has added a net 30,000.
This is not 2016.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (ZLI7S)
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Sinema is the one who called her potential voters racist dregs, and they still voted for her because she is kinda hot.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
No, I didn't!
But then again she was my State rep first and recognized her duplicity even then.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
No, I didn't!
But then again she was my State rep first and recognized her duplicity even then.
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (gtatv)
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Britney Spears now looks like a parody version of a tranny imitating
Britney Spears in a drag show, as she emerges from her cave to say she's
not crazy
There are those that say that Britney is mentally ill, is being abused and... is a victim of MK Ultra.
/if you do not know what MK Ultra is, you should probably not look it up.
Britney Spears in a drag show, as she emerges from her cave to say she's
not crazy
There are those that say that Britney is mentally ill, is being abused and... is a victim of MK Ultra.
/if you do not know what MK Ultra is, you should probably not look it up.
Posted by: shibumi, awaiting SMOD at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (ZCiJZ)
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There's an actual GOP ground game in my area this time around. I've had canvassers come by three times already.
Posted by: Bert G
This single thing is where the Trump campaign of 2020 is far ahead of the Trump campaign of 2016.
They have been fundraising (and I get letters ALL THE TIME) and have people out doing GOTV.
And believe it or nuts!! I think he has the Republican Party MORE behind him now than in 2016.
Posted by: Bert G
This single thing is where the Trump campaign of 2020 is far ahead of the Trump campaign of 2016.
They have been fundraising (and I get letters ALL THE TIME) and have people out doing GOTV.
And believe it or nuts!! I think he has the Republican Party MORE behind him now than in 2016.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (DJFLF)
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What does that have to do with how conservative you are?
My wife has some problematic health issues.. I do NOT want her getting the Wuhan flu.. so.. we are both extremely careful about getting out.. I do all the errands and she stays in a lot...
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (CjFDo)
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What you are doing is exactly what should have been done nationwide back in Feb/March. Protect the vulnerable, and let the rest of us continue to live our lives, shop, dine, go to sporting or musical events, and keep the economy somewhat going.
Locking down everyone while sending sick people to infect the elderly was the absolute worst thing to do. Now people are angry and lashing out at the lies we've been told and carnage that resulted.
IMHO.
My wife has some problematic health issues.. I do NOT want her getting the Wuhan flu.. so.. we are both extremely careful about getting out.. I do all the errands and she stays in a lot...
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (CjFDo)
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What you are doing is exactly what should have been done nationwide back in Feb/March. Protect the vulnerable, and let the rest of us continue to live our lives, shop, dine, go to sporting or musical events, and keep the economy somewhat going.
Locking down everyone while sending sick people to infect the elderly was the absolute worst thing to do. Now people are angry and lashing out at the lies we've been told and carnage that resulted.
IMHO.
Posted by: Boots at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (oGBso)
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You're touchy. "Democrats are going to cheat to victory no matter what!"
That's you. That's my impression of you.
Don't show me the numbers - Trump's gonna' win bigly !!! That's not my impression of you. That is you.
So, how many is Trump gonna' win Pennsylvania by ? Six million voted there in 2016. He won by half a point. What's his lead there gonna' be this November ? Five points ? Ten ? Name it. A zillion points ?
Five points is 300K fraudulent ballots. Seems unfathomable, doesn't it ? In 2016, Hillary got the bulk of her support in the following counties - Philadelphia, Delaware, Montgomery, Allegheny, Chester, and Lehigh. She won all of these counties by at least five points. Add those results up - and she netted 2.6 million votes just in those locations.
Could the DNC add another 10% - just in those locations - to null out a five point Trump lead statewide ? Or could they perform a harder trick, in my opinion, of 5% over-reporting statewide ? I don't know - but I'm positive the probability is not zero - and it's certainly in the double digits.
I'll be "confident" of this election when Trump is sworn in. Until then, we might just want to leave each others peckers alone just a bit longer. When you allow vote by mail, it just doesn't take that much, in a few blue strongholds, to tilt the scales. We've had reports of over-voting by as much as 20% in some places.
That's you. That's my impression of you.
Don't show me the numbers - Trump's gonna' win bigly !!! That's not my impression of you. That is you.
So, how many is Trump gonna' win Pennsylvania by ? Six million voted there in 2016. He won by half a point. What's his lead there gonna' be this November ? Five points ? Ten ? Name it. A zillion points ?
Five points is 300K fraudulent ballots. Seems unfathomable, doesn't it ? In 2016, Hillary got the bulk of her support in the following counties - Philadelphia, Delaware, Montgomery, Allegheny, Chester, and Lehigh. She won all of these counties by at least five points. Add those results up - and she netted 2.6 million votes just in those locations.
Could the DNC add another 10% - just in those locations - to null out a five point Trump lead statewide ? Or could they perform a harder trick, in my opinion, of 5% over-reporting statewide ? I don't know - but I'm positive the probability is not zero - and it's certainly in the double digits.
I'll be "confident" of this election when Trump is sworn in. Until then, we might just want to leave each others peckers alone just a bit longer. When you allow vote by mail, it just doesn't take that much, in a few blue strongholds, to tilt the scales. We've had reports of over-voting by as much as 20% in some places.
Posted by: Round and Round We go at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (x8pK0)
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Da fuq?
What does that have to do with how conservative you are?
My wife has some problematic health issues.. I do NOT want her getting the Wuhan flu.. so.. we are both extremely careful about getting out.. I do all the errands and she stays in a lot.
How the fuck is that cowardice in your mind?
Sometimes I don't fucking understand you guys..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (CjFDo)
So you and your wife have decided to never leave the home and not speak with anyone until there are zero cases of the Wuhan flu?
Perhaps you should read what was written more carefully.
What does that have to do with how conservative you are?
My wife has some problematic health issues.. I do NOT want her getting the Wuhan flu.. so.. we are both extremely careful about getting out.. I do all the errands and she stays in a lot.
How the fuck is that cowardice in your mind?
Sometimes I don't fucking understand you guys..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (CjFDo)
So you and your wife have decided to never leave the home and not speak with anyone until there are zero cases of the Wuhan flu?
Perhaps you should read what was written more carefully.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (Lv9tq)
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156 - Seattle is not a tolerant place. cars get keyed, homes get egged or
otherwise defaced. It really is scary to consider being doxxed. They
WILL come after you.
Posted by: nurse ratched
A day without a BOLD MEEP is like a day without sunshine.
I am so far removed from what so many commenters live with daily.
It's not even imaginable for me to understand what your daily lives are like, the stress, the strain, the loss of enjoyment.
So sad for large portions of the country and it's patriots.
otherwise defaced. It really is scary to consider being doxxed. They
WILL come after you.
Posted by: nurse ratched
A day without a BOLD MEEP is like a day without sunshine.
I am so far removed from what so many commenters live with daily.
It's not even imaginable for me to understand what your daily lives are like, the stress, the strain, the loss of enjoyment.
So sad for large portions of the country and it's patriots.
Posted by: old chick at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (sOete)
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Joe Biden: Why do people keep saying I'm a head. C'mon man, I've got a body too not just a head. Look arms, legs and you know...go.. you know ... the thing.
Joe Biden: Why do people keep saying I'm a head. C'mon man, I've got a body too not just a head. Look arms, legs and you know...go.. you know ... the thing.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (96SSR)
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320 Whenever this is all over, and they emerge, I'm sure they'll want to talk to me and be friendly, and I'll smile and talk to them, and all the while I'll be thinking "Sure, I can talk nice, you disgusting spineless worm of a man."
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (Kpl3J)
So true.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (Kpl3J)
So true.
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at August 21, 2020 01:13 PM (/rsCS)
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Think of the hubris of that bitch saying, "why am I not 50 points ahead?'
Are any dems self-aware? Any?
Posted by: Seems Legit at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM
She knew exactly what she was saying. That just lays the ground for "TRUMP IS CHEATING!!!!11!!!"
Are any dems self-aware? Any?
Posted by: Seems Legit at August 21, 2020 12:57 PM
She knew exactly what she was saying. That just lays the ground for "TRUMP IS CHEATING!!!!11!!!"
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 21, 2020 01:13 PM (ejd/p)
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Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:06 PM (CjFDo)
I am glad you are staying healthy
do you plan to vote in person?
I am glad you are staying healthy
do you plan to vote in person?
Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 01:13 PM (J8nVw)
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I personally think they squeezed this lemon dry in in 2016, I don't think they can get many more illegal votes without ending up in a court challenge and getting the votes in their precincts invalidated.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (5p7BC)
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I think Trump is ready for court battles all over the country for precincts that report number higher than possible given registered voters who reside there, and Democrats know that.
They know they can't cheat normally this year.
A Philly judge has already been thrown in federal prison for ballot box stuffing.
I personally think they squeezed this lemon dry in in 2016, I don't think they can get many more illegal votes without ending up in a court challenge and getting the votes in their precincts invalidated.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (5p7BC)
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I think Trump is ready for court battles all over the country for precincts that report number higher than possible given registered voters who reside there, and Democrats know that.
They know they can't cheat normally this year.
A Philly judge has already been thrown in federal prison for ballot box stuffing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:13 PM (UWqZJ)
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Looks like Keese Love, the Portland head-kicker, has been arrested. 5:30 am. Good.
Posted by: One of the quiet ones at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (eG2J2)
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Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (5p7BC)
Philly precincts also literally blocked Black Republicans from voting.
Philly precincts also literally blocked Black Republicans from voting.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (DJFLF)
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For whatever it's worth, Lady YD knows *very* little about Biden, aside from that he is the nominee and used to be Obama's veep. She watched his speech last night, where Joe was much more together than in recent weeks.
After it, she said "I take it back; you weren't just being mean to Democrats when you said he's too feeble to run. He's not up to this."
For whatever it's worth, Lady YD knows *very* little about Biden, aside from that he is the nominee and used to be Obama's veep. She watched his speech last night, where Joe was much more together than in recent weeks.
After it, she said "I take it back; you weren't just being mean to Democrats when you said he's too feeble to run. He's not up to this."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (xkm5f)
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Trump is still the outsider candidate ... Biden could hardly be any more corrupt insider. But the Cheat is On, now more than 2016, most likely. Hard to say if the craziness like Mask Laws and destruction of small business (while MagaCorp goes gang busters) ... will be manifest in unprecedented takeover of elections.
We have never seen a plandemic shutdown like this ... and they run much of the election process, plus they still have an army of Resistance on the inside ... and Justice Roberts, who if not compromised by some pedo island video, sure acts like they have some kompromat on him ...but my guess is still Trump in a landslide, conceivable taking back the house ... but lots of balls being juggled (and some being squeezed with pliers).
We have never seen a plandemic shutdown like this ... and they run much of the election process, plus they still have an army of Resistance on the inside ... and Justice Roberts, who if not compromised by some pedo island video, sure acts like they have some kompromat on him ...but my guess is still Trump in a landslide, conceivable taking back the house ... but lots of balls being juggled (and some being squeezed with pliers).
Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (Cus5s)
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Make what you will of all this.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (BM2fS)
.........
I see Math in there.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:11 PM (BM2fS)
.........
I see Math in there.
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (v0R5T)
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Sinema has been a fairly sane Democrat. Which is grading on a really low standard but still. If we had more Sinemas and fewer Duckworths the world would be a better place
Posted by: Asshoes at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (OV6yc)
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They'll say ANYTHING that will get Biden off the hook for debates.
If somehow they fail at that, they'll rig the debates so that every question will be pre-selected and vetted, and no interchange between the two candidates will be allowed. Probably a split-screen "virtual debate."
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That's a good thought. But I think Trump has the upper hand in that Biden has to debate. He can't fake it or duck it.
Anything less and he'll be completely done.
Voters will want to see the debate.
If somehow they fail at that, they'll rig the debates so that every question will be pre-selected and vetted, and no interchange between the two candidates will be allowed. Probably a split-screen "virtual debate."
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That's a good thought. But I think Trump has the upper hand in that Biden has to debate. He can't fake it or duck it.
Anything less and he'll be completely done.
Voters will want to see the debate.
Posted by: MJ at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (gAMkn)
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A Philly judge has already been thrown in federal prison for ballot box stuffing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:13 PM (UWqZJ)
That was sweet. I think they nabbed some Joisey fraudsters as well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:13 PM (UWqZJ)
That was sweet. I think they nabbed some Joisey fraudsters as well.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (DJFLF)
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I look at those bright, young protesters in Portland and I feel really good about the future of this country. I don't agree with not wearing masks, but gosh darnit those kids really care.
Posted by: Lightworker Joe Biden at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (QE8X6)
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>>Why would you need those?
Because you cannot mail 150 ballots from your house.
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Did you see the mail-in vote fraud case in Paterson, NJ?
They had people delivering and mailing stacks of ballots (and ballot-harvesting is not legal there, IIRC).
Because you cannot mail 150 ballots from your house.
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Did you see the mail-in vote fraud case in Paterson, NJ?
They had people delivering and mailing stacks of ballots (and ballot-harvesting is not legal there, IIRC).
Posted by: Lizzy at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (bDqIh)
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Margin of Error is a 95% confidence interval
Margin of error isn't really a statistics term. There's the confidence interval, and there's the other word for what we have confidence in. I forget the word. It's two overlapping measures of statistics. I'm old and I drink but I've taken a lot of statistics classes.
Every time someone say margin of error it makes my skin crawl.
Margin of error isn't really a statistics term. There's the confidence interval, and there's the other word for what we have confidence in. I forget the word. It's two overlapping measures of statistics. I'm old and I drink but I've taken a lot of statistics classes.
Every time someone say margin of error it makes my skin crawl.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2020 01:15 PM (q2K0j)
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1 not first
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:35 PM (UWqZJ)
12 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (vf0Uk)
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They don't call us morons for nothing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 12:35 PM (UWqZJ)
12 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 12:37 PM (vf0Uk)
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They don't call us morons for nothing.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 21, 2020 01:15 PM (yL25O)
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Marquise Lee Love was booked in the Multnomah County Detention Center on Friday shortly after 5:30 a.m. local time, according to jail records. He was charged with assault, coercion and riot, all three of which are felonies, records show.
That's a real shame. I had hoped that he'd have been discovered and picked up by police at two or more locations.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)
I'll bet his booking photo is a gem. He should be shitting his pants his time. His other crimes were minor compared to this, and if the Portland DA doesn't do his job, I am hoping (against hope, probably, but still) that the Feds swoop in and make an example of his twink ass.
That's a real shame. I had hoped that he'd have been discovered and picked up by police at two or more locations.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)
I'll bet his booking photo is a gem. He should be shitting his pants his time. His other crimes were minor compared to this, and if the Portland DA doesn't do his job, I am hoping (against hope, probably, but still) that the Feds swoop in and make an example of his twink ass.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:16 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:16 PM (qpX6U)
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I'm in Pennsylvania (hence the username). There is WAY more enthusiasm for Trump in the non-urban areas than there was in 2016. In my rural county, I've seen two Biden signs (both in the county seat) and I stopped counting Trump signs at 150.
That said, we're worried here. Trump won PA in 2016 because the Dem machines in Pittsburgh and Philthadelphia didn't bother cheating. They didn't think they needed to bother. They won't make that mistake again, and it will be really damned hard to overcome them this time. Really damned hard.
That said, we're worried here. Trump won PA in 2016 because the Dem machines in Pittsburgh and Philthadelphia didn't bother cheating. They didn't think they needed to bother. They won't make that mistake again, and it will be really damned hard to overcome them this time. Really damned hard.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at August 21, 2020 01:16 PM (+3rQF)
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What you are doing is exactly what should have been done nationwide back in Feb/March. Protect the vulnerable, and let the rest of us continue to live our lives, shop, dine, go to sporting or musical events, and keep the economy somewhat going.
Locking down everyone while sending sick people to infect the elderly was the absolute worst thing to do. Now people are angry and lashing out at the lies we've been told and carnage that resulted.
IMHO.
Posted by: Boots
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Exactly what I've been saying all along.. shutdowns have been stupid.
A little personal responsibility and common sense is all that we needed.
Locking down everyone while sending sick people to infect the elderly was the absolute worst thing to do. Now people are angry and lashing out at the lies we've been told and carnage that resulted.
IMHO.
Posted by: Boots
...........
Exactly what I've been saying all along.. shutdowns have been stupid.
A little personal responsibility and common sense is all that we needed.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:16 PM (CjFDo)
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333 156 - Seattle is not a tolerant place. cars get keyed, homes get egged or
otherwise defaced. It really is scary to consider being doxxed. They
WILL come after you.
Posted by: nurse ratched
A day without a BOLD MEEP is like a day without sunshine.
I am so far removed from what so many commenters live with daily.
It's not even imaginable for me to understand what your daily lives are like, the stress, the strain, the loss of enjoyment.
So sad for large portions of the country and it's patriots.
Posted by: old chick at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (sOete)
I Don't live behind Enemy Lines, so what works for me here most certainly would not work for you, nurse, or zombie, or sanfranpsycho, or Chi- Twn Jerry, et al. I feel for you, but would never live where you do for any amount. I can say that there are places where people generally are sane and society is orderly, with a Rule of Law.
otherwise defaced. It really is scary to consider being doxxed. They
WILL come after you.
Posted by: nurse ratched
A day without a BOLD MEEP is like a day without sunshine.
I am so far removed from what so many commenters live with daily.
It's not even imaginable for me to understand what your daily lives are like, the stress, the strain, the loss of enjoyment.
So sad for large portions of the country and it's patriots.
Posted by: old chick at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (sOete)
I Don't live behind Enemy Lines, so what works for me here most certainly would not work for you, nurse, or zombie, or sanfranpsycho, or Chi- Twn Jerry, et al. I feel for you, but would never live where you do for any amount. I can say that there are places where people generally are sane and society is orderly, with a Rule of Law.
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 01:17 PM (bCLt0)
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If somehow they fail at that, they'll rig the debates so that every question will be pre-selected and vetted, and no interchange between the two candidates will be allowed. Probably a split-screen "virtual debate."
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (NiXyF)
From the Babylon Bee: Joe sez "For this Debate, I am going to have to wear a mask that covers my ENTIRE face and head, for safety! Oh, and my voice might sound different."
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:09 PM (NiXyF)
From the Babylon Bee: Joe sez "For this Debate, I am going to have to wear a mask that covers my ENTIRE face and head, for safety! Oh, and my voice might sound different."
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:17 PM (Kpl3J)
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349 Margin of Error is a 95% confidence interval
Margin of error isn't really a statistics term. There's the confidence interval, and there's the other word for what we have confidence in. I forget the word. It's two overlapping measures of statistics. I'm old and I drink but I've taken a lot of statistics classes.
Every time someone say margin of error it makes my skin crawl.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2020 01:15 PM (q2K0j)
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Isn't margin of error a measuring term--and then you have to do some fun math to decide what impact the margin of error has on your computed result.
Confidence--isn't that just about Students T distribution stuff? Maybe it's for everything, i have forgotten that on purpose. Like targeted that part of my brain for destruction.
Margin of error isn't really a statistics term. There's the confidence interval, and there's the other word for what we have confidence in. I forget the word. It's two overlapping measures of statistics. I'm old and I drink but I've taken a lot of statistics classes.
Every time someone say margin of error it makes my skin crawl.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2020 01:15 PM (q2K0j)
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Isn't margin of error a measuring term--and then you have to do some fun math to decide what impact the margin of error has on your computed result.
Confidence--isn't that just about Students T distribution stuff? Maybe it's for everything, i have forgotten that on purpose. Like targeted that part of my brain for destruction.
Posted by: TexasDan at August 21, 2020 01:17 PM (yL25O)
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Gofund my bail, Whitey.
Posted by: Marqueef Love at August 21, 2020 01:17 PM (v0R5T)
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Exactly what I've been saying all along.. shutdowns have been stupid.
It will seem even more stupid when we go on a hard lock down/ house arrest for the next three months.
It will seem even more stupid when we go on a hard lock down/ house arrest for the next three months.
Posted by: shibumi, awaiting SMOD at August 21, 2020 01:17 PM (ZCiJZ)
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SPONGE!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 01:17 PM (NWiLs)
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353 That said, we're worried here. Trump won PA in 2016 because the Dem machines in Pittsburgh and Philthadelphia didn't bother cheating. They didn't think they needed to bother. They won't make that mistake again, and it will be really damned hard to overcome them this time. Really damned hard.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at August 21, 2020 01:16 PM (+3rQF)
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I think that's pretty obviously wrong.
The Democratic machine cheated, and it cheated big. The Jill Stein recount lawsuit in MI showed how much they cheated there.
I think it would be foolish to think that Democrats, who were happy to use the intelligence apparatus of the federal government in their cheating, weren't using every other tool they had at the same time.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at August 21, 2020 01:16 PM (+3rQF)
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I think that's pretty obviously wrong.
The Democratic machine cheated, and it cheated big. The Jill Stein recount lawsuit in MI showed how much they cheated there.
I think it would be foolish to think that Democrats, who were happy to use the intelligence apparatus of the federal government in their cheating, weren't using every other tool they had at the same time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:17 PM (UWqZJ)
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The protesters we're seeing all around the country hate racism and they're not afraid to speak up about it and God bless 'em. Reminds me of myself in '68. I was gonna say '69, but Jill tells me that's something different.
Posted by: Lightworker Joe Biden at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (QE8X6)
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Looks like Keese Love, the Portland head-kicker, has been arrested. 5:30 am. Good.
Posted by: One of the quiet ones
It would have been much better if he could have been arrested in another State, 'flight across State lines to avoid arrest'...
Posted by: One of the quiet ones
It would have been much better if he could have been arrested in another State, 'flight across State lines to avoid arrest'...
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (gtatv)
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Think of the hubris of that bitch saying, "why am I not 50 points ahead?'
She really thought that her positions she argued and laid down were so popular and universally supported that obviously she would be in a huge lead if the only knew.
She really thought that her positions she argued and laid down were so popular and universally supported that obviously she would be in a huge lead if the only knew.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (KZzsI)
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Anyone remember where Hill, Bill and Chelsea spent election eve in 2016? Pennsylvania. It was her key to victory and they went all out with star studded rallies in Pittsburgh and the Philly with Obama and Big Mike.
She lost.
She lost.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (ZLI7S)
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Posted by: Round and Round We go at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (x8pK0)
The DNC fraud machine in PA is always playing catch-up though. See Dave in Fla's post..
This year they're going to be short in the collar counties due to suburban white women fearing that BLM will be waking them up at 2:30 am, demanding their homes back. There's also going to be erosion in the city. A whole lot of hipsters/yuppies who are unable to flee right now got their first dose of "civil unrest" and they know whose fault it is. Part of the "shy Trump vote:.
The DNC fraud machine in PA is always playing catch-up though. See Dave in Fla's post..
This year they're going to be short in the collar counties due to suburban white women fearing that BLM will be waking them up at 2:30 am, demanding their homes back. There's also going to be erosion in the city. A whole lot of hipsters/yuppies who are unable to flee right now got their first dose of "civil unrest" and they know whose fault it is. Part of the "shy Trump vote:.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (DJFLF)
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339 Looks like Keese Love, the Portland head-kicker, has been arrested. 5:30 am. Good.
Posted by: One of the quiet ones at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (eG2J2)
Too bad he didn't resist arrest.
Posted by: One of the quiet ones at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (eG2J2)
Too bad he didn't resist arrest.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (NWiLs)
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Either you live your life as you wish (NO MASKS!) or you don't.
So tired of people who talk the game, but are cowards.
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (/rsCS)
99% of the people around me, insofar as shoppers can serve as a measurement. 20% when this started out. Now even kids are strapped with the masks. I can't see a time when there will be no masks. I think the turning point of public conditioning has been achieved. I think people have convinced themselves they LIKE wearing these things. Sickening.
So tired of people who talk the game, but are cowards.
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (/rsCS)
99% of the people around me, insofar as shoppers can serve as a measurement. 20% when this started out. Now even kids are strapped with the masks. I can't see a time when there will be no masks. I think the turning point of public conditioning has been achieved. I think people have convinced themselves they LIKE wearing these things. Sickening.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (H8QX8)
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I'll say it again, the RNC has helped add a net 165,000 new Republican voters in PA. The DNC has added a net 30,000.
This is not 2016.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (ZLI7S)
I think the #WalkAway guy is having an impact, too.
And I suspect that there will be far more blacks joining the stealth-Trump-voter crowd than most pundits are predicting. A lot of just-plain-folks Blacks are repulsed by the whole BLM thing, too.
I'll say it again, the RNC has helped add a net 165,000 new Republican voters in PA. The DNC has added a net 30,000.
This is not 2016.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 01:12 PM (ZLI7S)
I think the #WalkAway guy is having an impact, too.
And I suspect that there will be far more blacks joining the stealth-Trump-voter crowd than most pundits are predicting. A lot of just-plain-folks Blacks are repulsed by the whole BLM thing, too.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (NiXyF)
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A day without a BOLD MEEP is like a day without sunshine.
I am so far removed from what so many commenters live with daily.
It's not even imaginable for me to understand what your daily lives are like, the stress, the strain, the loss of enjoyment.
So sad for large portions of the country and it's patriots.
Posted by: old chick
It isn't all that bad. I was never a big put a sign in your front yard kinda person anyway.
I have seen ONE BIden yard sign. I have been looking. I still see Bernie signs and Andrew Yang signs. Hell, I even saw a Warren sign last week.
ONE BIDEN SIGN.
I am so far removed from what so many commenters live with daily.
It's not even imaginable for me to understand what your daily lives are like, the stress, the strain, the loss of enjoyment.
So sad for large portions of the country and it's patriots.
Posted by: old chick
It isn't all that bad. I was never a big put a sign in your front yard kinda person anyway.
I have seen ONE BIden yard sign. I have been looking. I still see Bernie signs and Andrew Yang signs. Hell, I even saw a Warren sign last week.
ONE BIDEN SIGN.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:19 PM (W2Pud)
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I'm sure Marquise Love is shocked at being arrested.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 21, 2020 01:19 PM (lgiXo)
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Had Bucks county in the above totals - which she won in 2016, but not bigly. So over-reporting would have to be by more than 10%, but rather by about 15% in places that she freight-trained in 2016. 15% seems like a big number to me.
So this is another question - how good do we think the DNC is at fraud ? Do we think they're good for five points - just in their hard-line areas ? Ten points ? We know - know that in the past they've over-reported by as much as twenty percent in their strongholds.
So this is another question - how good do we think the DNC is at fraud ? Do we think they're good for five points - just in their hard-line areas ? Ten points ? We know - know that in the past they've over-reported by as much as twenty percent in their strongholds.
Posted by: Round and Round We go at August 21, 2020 01:19 PM (x8pK0)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 01:20 PM (NWiLs)
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From the Babylon Bee: Joe sez "For this Debate, I am going to have to wear a mask that covers my ENTIRE face and head, for safety! Oh, and my voice might sound different."
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:17 PM (Kpl3J)
Or just put a big-ass microphone in front of his mouth like John Gill in the old Star Trek "Patterns of Force."
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:17 PM (Kpl3J)
Or just put a big-ass microphone in front of his mouth like John Gill in the old Star Trek "Patterns of Force."
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:20 PM (NiXyF)
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Too bad he didn't resist arrest.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020
Three felonies. That should leave a mark, even in Portland.
Too bad he didn't resist arrest.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020
Three felonies. That should leave a mark, even in Portland.
Posted by: One of the quiet ones at August 21, 2020 01:21 PM (eG2J2)
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I think it would be foolish to think that Democrats, who were happy to use the intelligence apparatus of the federal government in their cheating, weren't using every other tool they had at the same time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:17 PM (UWqZJ)
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I have no doubt they cheated their asses off. They always do. And Bob Creamer and Scott Foval were bragging on camera about their efforts in that regard.
But one thing that got me about the election interference by the intelligence agencies, and their subsequent actions, was the sloppiness of it all. If they'd had any belief they would lose the election, they would have been much more careful about their world-historical crime.
I'm guessing that the same overconfidence that led to that chain of consequences probably informed their broader election fraud efforts, as well.
I would expect the fraud to be way more focused and intense in 2020.
I think it would be foolish to think that Democrats, who were happy to use the intelligence apparatus of the federal government in their cheating, weren't using every other tool they had at the same time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:17 PM (UWqZJ)
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I have no doubt they cheated their asses off. They always do. And Bob Creamer and Scott Foval were bragging on camera about their efforts in that regard.
But one thing that got me about the election interference by the intelligence agencies, and their subsequent actions, was the sloppiness of it all. If they'd had any belief they would lose the election, they would have been much more careful about their world-historical crime.
I'm guessing that the same overconfidence that led to that chain of consequences probably informed their broader election fraud efforts, as well.
I would expect the fraud to be way more focused and intense in 2020.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2020 01:21 PM (xkm5f)
377
Leave Britney alone? I will not! I will humiliate her!
Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2020 01:08 PM (HEEq1)
Free Britney (with the purchase of an equal or greater value Britney)!
Leave Britney alone? I will not! I will humiliate her!
Posted by: zombie at August 21, 2020 01:08 PM (HEEq1)
Free Britney (with the purchase of an equal or greater value Britney)!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 21, 2020 01:21 PM (pNxlR)
378
Looks like Keese Love, the Portland head-kicker, has been arrested. 5:30 am.
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He will claim to be gay and blame everything on Nigerian bodybuilders.
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He will claim to be gay and blame everything on Nigerian bodybuilders.
Posted by: wth at August 21, 2020 01:21 PM (v0R5T)
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I'll bet his booking photo is a gem. He should be shitting his pants his time. His other crimes were minor compared to this, and if the Portland DA doesn't do his job, I am hoping (against hope, probably, but still) that the Feds swoop in and make an example of his twink ass.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:16 PM (BM2fS)
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Here it is:
https://tinyurl.com/y5elu343
Bail is $250K.
I'll bet his booking photo is a gem. He should be shitting his pants his time. His other crimes were minor compared to this, and if the Portland DA doesn't do his job, I am hoping (against hope, probably, but still) that the Feds swoop in and make an example of his twink ass.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:16 PM (BM2fS)
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Here it is:
https://tinyurl.com/y5elu343
Bail is $250K.
Posted by: rd at August 21, 2020 01:21 PM (+0uDE)
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The stock market's been diddling around all morning.
I guess no one quite knows what to make of Biden's speech.
I think if it were clearly a great speech and Biden could win, stocks would be way down.
If he clearly flubbed it, the stocks would be up.
But, it appears Low Bar Joe being able to just get over that low bar, confused everyone.
The stock market's been diddling around all morning.
I guess no one quite knows what to make of Biden's speech.
I think if it were clearly a great speech and Biden could win, stocks would be way down.
If he clearly flubbed it, the stocks would be up.
But, it appears Low Bar Joe being able to just get over that low bar, confused everyone.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 21, 2020 01:21 PM (EERbD)
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PA peaked in democrat votes in 2008 with 3.2 million. They aren't getting that many this year. Trump just needs to match or slightly exceed his 2016 numbers.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 21, 2020 01:22 PM (kA3Cp)
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So you and your wife have decided to never leave the home and not speak with anyone until there are zero cases of the Wuhan flu?
Perhaps you should read what was written more carefully.
Posted by: Buzzion
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Uh no.. We are just extremely careful. We see our daughters.. we had a dozen workmen in for remodeling for a couple weeks..
My wife is uncomfortable going to restaurants still, so I cook and we do carry out..
But I do not judge anyone else's opinion to do more.. I have disagreed with the shutdowns from day one.
I still do not see why that makes me less conservative than anyone else.
So you and your wife have decided to never leave the home and not speak with anyone until there are zero cases of the Wuhan flu?
Perhaps you should read what was written more carefully.
Posted by: Buzzion
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Uh no.. We are just extremely careful. We see our daughters.. we had a dozen workmen in for remodeling for a couple weeks..
My wife is uncomfortable going to restaurants still, so I cook and we do carry out..
But I do not judge anyone else's opinion to do more.. I have disagreed with the shutdowns from day one.
I still do not see why that makes me less conservative than anyone else.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:22 PM (CjFDo)
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When Trump is no longer a threat - a long time from now - the Left will admit how jealous they were of him. They will shower him with true compliments in an effort to laugh at how we don't have him to lead us anymore and are "rudderless".
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 01:22 PM (Xz7Fn)
384
The transperson attacker has also been arrested in LA.
Posted by: kallisto at August 21, 2020 01:22 PM (DJFLF)
385
171 so, will the debates happen or not?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (W2Pud)
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Top ranked, as of today: SlowJoe "proved" yesterday he would destroy PDT. But after endless repetition, that lie will be replaced with the next lie: because PDT is "race," Joey (against his will) cannot debate because association cooties and dignity of the nation.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 12:54 PM (W2Pud)
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Top ranked, as of today: SlowJoe "proved" yesterday he would destroy PDT. But after endless repetition, that lie will be replaced with the next lie: because PDT is "race," Joey (against his will) cannot debate because association cooties and dignity of the nation.
Posted by: Gilded Age II, reminding lefties that hugbox bubbles make great gerbils at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (BRkq2)
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I think Trump is ready for court battles all over the country for precincts that report number higher than possible given registered voters who reside there, and Democrats know that.
They know they can't cheat normally this year.
A Philly judge has already been thrown in federal prison for ballot box stuffing.
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A good point, don't underestimate who controls the DOJ this time.
They know they can't cheat normally this year.
A Philly judge has already been thrown in federal prison for ballot box stuffing.
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A good point, don't underestimate who controls the DOJ this time.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (5p7BC)
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And do you know that candidate's name, Centuwion?? It's Dementia Buttocks!
Posted by: Biggus Dickus at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (an7Mv)
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"Low fo voters don't have a clue. People who are engaged politically have absolutely no sense of just how low fo a low fo voter is."
Agree. A huge fraction of the electorate is taught to hate America, illiterate, and worst of all, innumerate. Case in point: Tammy Duckworth.
Agree. A huge fraction of the electorate is taught to hate America, illiterate, and worst of all, innumerate. Case in point: Tammy Duckworth.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (qpX6U)
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376 I'm guessing that the same overconfidence that led to that chain of consequences probably informed their broader election fraud efforts, as well.
I would expect the fraud to be way more focused and intense in 2020.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2020 01:21 PM (xkm5f)
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I dunno.
Adding hundreds of votes to ballot boxes that only include a few dozen votes total seems pretty focused.
I would expect the fraud to be way more focused and intense in 2020.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2020 01:21 PM (xkm5f)
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I dunno.
Adding hundreds of votes to ballot boxes that only include a few dozen votes total seems pretty focused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (UWqZJ)
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I would expect the DJT campaign knows which counties are most likely to cheat by mail and their attorneys will be stationed there.
Posted by: BluesFish at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (QPMQ7)
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I see one crude handmade Black Lives Matter sign in our suburban 99% white neighborhood
no Biden and no Trump signs coz no one wants a fight
no Biden and no Trump signs coz no one wants a fight
Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (J8nVw)
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Looks like Keese Love, the Portland head-kicker, has been arrested. 5:30 AM.
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Alyssa Milano believes in Love
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Alyssa Milano believes in Love
Posted by: ... at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (Xz7Fn)
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>>The stock market's been diddling around all morning.
I guess no one quite knows what to make of Biden's speech.
I think if it were clearly a great speech and Biden could win, stocks would be way down.
If he clearly flubbed it, the stocks would be up.
>>But, it appears Low Bar Joe being able to just get over that low bar, confused everyone.
It could be the market would be down save for sales of existing homes setting a record with a 25% gain in July.
I guess no one quite knows what to make of Biden's speech.
I think if it were clearly a great speech and Biden could win, stocks would be way down.
If he clearly flubbed it, the stocks would be up.
>>But, it appears Low Bar Joe being able to just get over that low bar, confused everyone.
It could be the market would be down save for sales of existing homes setting a record with a 25% gain in July.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (ZLI7S)
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Ballots are racist. They should allow people to just write a name on a piece of paper and drop it in the mailbox, then the post office should deliver it to the local election office for free.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2020 01:24 PM (jcBGX)
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Either you live your life as you wish (NO MASKS!) or you don't.
So tired of people who talk the game, but are cowards.
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (/rsCS)
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Related:
I hate that our society has reached the point where people sincerely believe it's my responsibility to take some sort of action solely to allow someone who is terrified of something to be able to take a pleasure trip somewhere they don't need to go at their convenience.
Stay home, stay safe. Leave me out of your fetish parties.
So tired of people who talk the game, but are cowards.
Posted by: charlotte the sailor at August 21, 2020 01:02 PM (/rsCS)
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Related:
I hate that our society has reached the point where people sincerely believe it's my responsibility to take some sort of action solely to allow someone who is terrified of something to be able to take a pleasure trip somewhere they don't need to go at their convenience.
Stay home, stay safe. Leave me out of your fetish parties.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 21, 2020 01:24 PM (QMjUf)
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386 I think Trump is ready for court battles all over the country for precincts that report number higher than possible given registered voters who reside there, and Democrats know that.
They know they can't cheat normally this year.
A Philly judge has already been thrown in federal prison for ballot box stuffing.
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A good point, don't underestimate who controls the DOJ this time.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (5p7BC)
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And, this is important, this DOJ has already thrown Democrats in jail for vote fraud in places like Philadelphia.
They know they can't cheat normally this year.
A Philly judge has already been thrown in federal prison for ballot box stuffing.
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A good point, don't underestimate who controls the DOJ this time.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (5p7BC)
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And, this is important, this DOJ has already thrown Democrats in jail for vote fraud in places like Philadelphia.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:24 PM (UWqZJ)
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I foresee an historic first for all these states that have opted to go with the easiest way to accomplish voter fraud, mail-in voting, by having 100% old people in nursing homes participation.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 21, 2020 01:24 PM (O+I8R)
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Here it is:
https://tinyurl.com/y5elu343
Bail is $250K.
Posted by: rd
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that's only $25k in real money.. the lefty bail fund will have him out on the streets by this afternoon.
https://tinyurl.com/y5elu343
Bail is $250K.
Posted by: rd
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that's only $25k in real money.. the lefty bail fund will have him out on the streets by this afternoon.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:24 PM (CjFDo)
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Case in point: Tammy Duckworth.
Posted by: gp,
Ya know, I didn't think I could detest anyone more than Durbin, but Tammy's done it. What a detestable women.
Posted by: gp,
Ya know, I didn't think I could detest anyone more than Durbin, but Tammy's done it. What a detestable women.
Posted by: lizabth at August 21, 2020 01:24 PM (L3Rsz)
400
In more interesting news than poll results, I didn't know that Ron Jeremy has been charged with multiple counts of rape and is in custody awaiting trial. A woman took pictures of his apartment and he lives like a filthy hoarder.
https://tinyurl.com/y5d534d5
https://tinyurl.com/y5d534d5
Posted by: Cheri at August 21, 2020 01:24 PM (oiNtH)
401
I'm telling people we're gonna give people jobs, good jobs, jobs that put a smile on your face, and I'm putting Kamala right on it the first day we're in office.
Posted by: Lightworker Joe Biden at August 21, 2020 01:24 PM (QE8X6)
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"The stock market's been diddling around all morning.
I guess no one quite knows what to make of Biden's speech."
Stocks do what they do. They do not often indicate the state of the economy nor the state of the political climate.
I guess no one quite knows what to make of Biden's speech."
Stocks do what they do. They do not often indicate the state of the economy nor the state of the political climate.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:25 PM (qpX6U)
403
So, Trump's gonna be stopping by Asheville area Monday, but I'm having a hard time finding out exactly when on Monday. Anybody got any info?
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at August 21, 2020 01:25 PM (Mm4NK)
404
The same pollster's final PA poll in 2016 had Clinton winning by six points.
Posted by: Mark1971
Ahh, the missing fact that I was looking for. And that seals it for me. Ignore this poll.
Posted by: Mark1971
Ahh, the missing fact that I was looking for. And that seals it for me. Ignore this poll.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:25 PM (BM2fS)
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comment not found
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:25 PM (UWqZJ)
406
dammit
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:25 PM (UWqZJ)
407
I still do not see why that makes me less conservative than anyone else.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
It most certainly is NOT a reflection of your conservatism. You are being cautious. That is commendable. You have not insisted the rest of the world cater to your caution.
You do what makes you feel safe.
And I will respect your choice.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
It most certainly is NOT a reflection of your conservatism. You are being cautious. That is commendable. You have not insisted the rest of the world cater to your caution.
You do what makes you feel safe.
And I will respect your choice.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:25 PM (W2Pud)
408
I think Trump is ready for court battles all over the country for precincts that report number higher than possible given registered voters who reside there, and Democrats know that.
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It's hard to argue that, given their constant, unsubstantiated by anything screeching about him "not leaving office OMG!!!"
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It's hard to argue that, given their constant, unsubstantiated by anything screeching about him "not leaving office OMG!!!"
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 21, 2020 01:26 PM (O+I8R)
409
My kids kindergarten class is 9 blacks and 1 white. They all stand and put their hands on their hearts while saying the pledge of allegiance in the morning before zoom class starts.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2020 01:26 PM (jcBGX)
410
It could be the market would be down save for sales of existing homes setting a record with a 25% gain in July.
All those zombies fleeing blue cities.
All those zombies fleeing blue cities.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2020 01:26 PM (OeBYn)
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I clicked the link and saw this:
Democrat........ 47%
Republican...... 39%
Does that change anything?
Democrat........ 47%
Republican...... 39%
Does that change anything?
Posted by: 29Victor at August 21, 2020 01:26 PM (BJKQV)
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The stock market has almost no relationship to real life these days (if ever).
Use it, but don't believe it.
Use it, but don't believe it.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 21, 2020 01:26 PM (QMjUf)
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405 comment not found
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:25 PM (UWqZJ)
So close.
405 comment not found
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:25 PM (UWqZJ)
So close.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 01:27 PM (2O5Io)
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I'm a spiritual guy. I pride myself on looking for the light. And sometimes I find it in a nice head of hair.
Posted by: Lightworker Joe Biden at August 21, 2020 01:27 PM (QE8X6)
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Orange Man. I will sound the "all clear" when he is gone and they can emerge.
Posted by: Mikey NTH
As long as their safe space is a burlap bag weighted down with rocks, with them inside and the top tied off, then thrown into deep crawfish infested stagnant water.
Yeah, me too.
Posted by: Mikey NTH
As long as their safe space is a burlap bag weighted down with rocks, with them inside and the top tied off, then thrown into deep crawfish infested stagnant water.
Yeah, me too.
Posted by: BifBewalski at August 21, 2020 01:27 PM (VcFUs)
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The amount of sheep who wear a mask all the time, walking alone, driving alone, is depressing.
Posted by: getting the banned back together at August 21, 2020 01:27 PM (VudRE)
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It most certainly is NOT a reflection of your conservatism. You are being cautious. That is commendable. You have not insisted the rest of the world cater to your caution.
You do what makes you feel safe.
And I will respect your choice.
Posted by: nurse ratched
.........
Thanks.
It most certainly is NOT a reflection of your conservatism. You are being cautious. That is commendable. You have not insisted the rest of the world cater to your caution.
You do what makes you feel safe.
And I will respect your choice.
Posted by: nurse ratched
.........
Thanks.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:27 PM (CjFDo)
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So, Trump's gonna be stopping by Asheville area Monday, but I'm having a hard time finding out exactly when on Monday. Anybody got any info?
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
"President Donald Trump is set to visit the Asheville area Aug. 24.
Trump will go to Mills River in Henderson County to visit a Farmers to Families Food Box program funded through the Coronavirus Food Assistance Program, according to a White House statement.
He will tour Flavor First Growers and Packers, an organization that partners with Baptists on Mission to build the Farmers to Families Food Boxes. The tour will show how the boxes are packaged and placed into refrigerated trucks and then delivered to families in need. Following the tour, he will deliver remarks outside."
Good luck and prayers up for your treatment.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
"President Donald Trump is set to visit the Asheville area Aug. 24.
Trump will go to Mills River in Henderson County to visit a Farmers to Families Food Box program funded through the Coronavirus Food Assistance Program, according to a White House statement.
He will tour Flavor First Growers and Packers, an organization that partners with Baptists on Mission to build the Farmers to Families Food Boxes. The tour will show how the boxes are packaged and placed into refrigerated trucks and then delivered to families in need. Following the tour, he will deliver remarks outside."
Good luck and prayers up for your treatment.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: mnw at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (Cssks)
420
Has biden reminded everyone he was born in scranton?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (jcBGX)
421
When Trump is no longer a threat - a long time from now - the Left will admit how jealous they were of him.
The next major GOP leader or president, they'll declare the biggest satan hitler racist ever and bemoan the old days when the Republicans had real leadership and a moderate like Trump, praising him.
The next major GOP leader or president, they'll declare the biggest satan hitler racist ever and bemoan the old days when the Republicans had real leadership and a moderate like Trump, praising him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (KZzsI)
422
Test
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (3FEhb)
423
If the election results in a tie, I would propose that in the name of national unity, Trump offers to step aside and let Biden become president, so long as Trump is VP.
Posted by: LASue at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Here it is:
https://tinyurl.com/y5elu343
Bail is $250K.
Posted by: rd at August 21, 2020 01:21 PM (+0uDE)
Seems right. Steve Bannon killed five people and his was what, $5 million?
https://tinyurl.com/y5elu343
Bail is $250K.
Posted by: rd at August 21, 2020 01:21 PM (+0uDE)
Seems right. Steve Bannon killed five people and his was what, $5 million?
Posted by: Chunk Hunger at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (uhPTO)
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Uh no.. We are just extremely careful. We see our daughters.. we had a dozen workmen in for remodeling for a couple weeks..
My wife is uncomfortable going to restaurants still, so I cook and we do carry out..
But I do not judge anyone else's opinion to do more.. I have disagreed with the shutdowns from day one.
I still do not see why that makes me less conservative than anyone else.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:22 PM (CjFDo)
Then you clearly did not read what he wrote. You read what you wanted to see that he wrote so you could get outraged at assuming he's saying what you are currently doing makes you less conservative. Well unless you're lying and actually doing what he said.
My wife is uncomfortable going to restaurants still, so I cook and we do carry out..
But I do not judge anyone else's opinion to do more.. I have disagreed with the shutdowns from day one.
I still do not see why that makes me less conservative than anyone else.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:22 PM (CjFDo)
Then you clearly did not read what he wrote. You read what you wanted to see that he wrote so you could get outraged at assuming he's saying what you are currently doing makes you less conservative. Well unless you're lying and actually doing what he said.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (G2zl5)
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A good point, don't underestimate who controls the DOJ this time.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (5p7BC)
Who does control them?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (5p7BC)
Who does control them?
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (H8QX8)
427
Sorting out the real bomb threats and the fake ones on Election Day is going to be fun, isn't it?
Posted by: pookysgirl, searching for her flak vest at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (XKZwp)
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I think people have convinced themselves they LIKE wearing these things. Sickening.
No, its not conditioning. It is a government regulation where it is obvious that you are violating it. People are doing it because they are, by a huge majority, law abiding, and they believe that it is the right thing to do.
No, its not conditioning. It is a government regulation where it is obvious that you are violating it. People are doing it because they are, by a huge majority, law abiding, and they believe that it is the right thing to do.
Posted by: An Observation at August 21, 2020 01:29 PM (zDN6V)
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421 When Trump is no longer a threat - a long time from now - the Left will admit how jealous they were of him.
The next major GOP leader or president, they'll declare the biggest satan hitler racist ever and bemoan the old days when the Republicans had real leadership and a moderate like Trump, praising him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (KZzsI)
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Next thing you'll tell me is that polls in June are garbage.
The next major GOP leader or president, they'll declare the biggest satan hitler racist ever and bemoan the old days when the Republicans had real leadership and a moderate like Trump, praising him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:28 PM (KZzsI)
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Next thing you'll tell me is that polls in June are garbage.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:29 PM (UWqZJ)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 21, 2020 01:29 PM (q2K0j)
431
The commies at work didn't even want to talk about the convention today. All they wished to discuss was "Trump's buddy, Bannon, getting arrested."
Posted by: Swallow the Rabbit Whole at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (DB16e)
By Trump's DOJ, you might point out. Followed by a whispered 'Wheels within wheels', and a finger to the nose.
Posted by: Swallow the Rabbit Whole at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (DB16e)
By Trump's DOJ, you might point out. Followed by a whispered 'Wheels within wheels', and a finger to the nose.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 21, 2020 01:29 PM (yQpMk)
432
Democrat........ 47%
Republican...... 39%
Does that change anything?
Posted by: 29Victor
Of course. The true numbers are closer to 45 - 45 with 10 undecided.
Republican...... 39%
Does that change anything?
Posted by: 29Victor
Of course. The true numbers are closer to 45 - 45 with 10 undecided.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:29 PM (BM2fS)
433
Here is the obligatory methods statement.
Who the F are they polling, most humans have cells these days and most likely screen spam poll callers out. I mean, really, the old telephone network was under 20% utilization of what it once was two years ago, surely worse now.
Polling if horse shit.
Who the F are they polling, most humans have cells these days and most likely screen spam poll callers out. I mean, really, the old telephone network was under 20% utilization of what it once was two years ago, surely worse now.
Polling if horse shit.
Posted by: Garbone at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (DQA4U)
434
So how many people do we have on death watch at the moment?
RBG
Ghisline Maxwell
Joe Biden
and their Donors and Johns
That's a lot of people.
RBG
Ghisline Maxwell
Joe Biden
and their Donors and Johns
That's a lot of people.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (3FEhb)
435
The dems frauded bigly in 2016. The recounts stopped once it exposed how blatant it was.
Posted by: Fortcoins at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (pt7BY)
436
390 I would expect the DJT campaign knows which counties are most likely to cheat by mail and their attorneys will be stationed there.
Posted by: BluesFish
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A friend of mine is a lawyer in Colorado. He volunteered his services to the state GOP and two different county GOP committees to help with pre election day, election day and election night monitoring, running to court, that kind of stuff, in both 2012 and 2016.
The response both times? Nothing but getting added to more mailing lists.
Posted by: BluesFish
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A friend of mine is a lawyer in Colorado. He volunteered his services to the state GOP and two different county GOP committees to help with pre election day, election day and election night monitoring, running to court, that kind of stuff, in both 2012 and 2016.
The response both times? Nothing but getting added to more mailing lists.
Posted by: Furious George at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (9vQJW)
437
The amount of sheep who wear a mask all the time, walking alone, driving alone, is depressing.
Posted by: getting the banned back together
While getting ready for work this morning, I looked out my window and say a middle school aged boy walking along with his backpack going to school. He was alone and wearing a mask. It made me sad. What are the psychological effects of this on our kids?
Posted by: getting the banned back together
While getting ready for work this morning, I looked out my window and say a middle school aged boy walking along with his backpack going to school. He was alone and wearing a mask. It made me sad. What are the psychological effects of this on our kids?
Posted by: Cheri at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (oiNtH)
438
99% of the people around me, insofar as shoppers can serve as a measurement. 20% when this started out. Now even kids are strapped with the masks. I can't see a time when there will be no masks. I think the turning point of public conditioning has been achieved. I think people have convinced themselves they LIKE wearing these things. Sickening.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (H8QX
People have been told that they must wear a mask or they cannot go out. They cannot go to the store to get the necessities they need to live. You get these shot headed politicians and stupid corporate hacks to drop their useless fucking mask rules and the number of people wearing them will fall off a cliff.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (H8QX
People have been told that they must wear a mask or they cannot go out. They cannot go to the store to get the necessities they need to live. You get these shot headed politicians and stupid corporate hacks to drop their useless fucking mask rules and the number of people wearing them will fall off a cliff.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (G2zl5)
439
"President Donald Trump is set to visit the Asheville area Aug. 24.
Trump will go to Mills River in Henderson County to visit a Farmers
to Families Food Box program funded through the Coronavirus Food
Assistance Program, according to a White House statement.
Good luck and prayers up for your treatment.
Posted by: Sharkman
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Thanks shark, but that's the same info all the news sites have. I need a time of day so I can see if I can be down there.
And thanks also for the prayers.
Trump will go to Mills River in Henderson County to visit a Farmers
to Families Food Box program funded through the Coronavirus Food
Assistance Program, according to a White House statement.
Good luck and prayers up for your treatment.
Posted by: Sharkman
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Thanks shark, but that's the same info all the news sites have. I need a time of day so I can see if I can be down there.
And thanks also for the prayers.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (Mm4NK)
440
Trump is just giving a tremendous speech in Arlington...he's really at the height of his powers right now. He's not just explaining how dangerous the Democrats are, but he's mocking their stupidity (particularly Obama's). Nothing hurts worse than a face that's been laughed in...
Posted by: Boswell at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (w2LAm)
441
Looks like Keese Love, the Portland head-kicker, has been arrested. 5:30 am. Good.
Posted by: One of the quiet ones at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (eG2J2)
Released and apologized to by 6:00am?
Posted by: One of the quiet ones at August 21, 2020 01:14 PM (eG2J2)
Released and apologized to by 6:00am?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (ag8Q5)
442
Then you clearly did not read what he wrote.
Well in his defense, it sounded a lot like moaning and rattling of chains
Well in his defense, it sounded a lot like moaning and rattling of chains
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (KZzsI)
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416 The amount of sheep who wear a mask all the time, walking alone, driving alone, is depressing.
Posted by: getting the banned back together
It can be depressing.
It makes me loathe the mainstream media and our elected officials who have succeeded in literally terrifying the general public. I have patients who have not left their homes in months. They are truly convinced COVID will get them. It is not rational, BUT they have been convinced by the powers that be they WILL DIE.
It makes me angry. But not at the sheep wearing the masks. I'm angry at the power hungry, bullies who are tormenting them.
Posted by: getting the banned back together
It can be depressing.
It makes me loathe the mainstream media and our elected officials who have succeeded in literally terrifying the general public. I have patients who have not left their homes in months. They are truly convinced COVID will get them. It is not rational, BUT they have been convinced by the powers that be they WILL DIE.
It makes me angry. But not at the sheep wearing the masks. I'm angry at the power hungry, bullies who are tormenting them.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (W2Pud)
444
"The stock market has almost no relationship to real life these days (if ever)."
Yup. The only reason I own stocks is to get a 4.5% dividend return, instead of a 2% CD return. And they are only ten percent of my portfolio now. Stocks are not a political barometer.
Yup. The only reason I own stocks is to get a 4.5% dividend return, instead of a 2% CD return. And they are only ten percent of my portfolio now. Stocks are not a political barometer.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (qpX6U)
445
>>> 99% of the people around me, insofar as shoppers can serve as a measurement. 20% when this started out. Now even kids are strapped with the masks. I can't see a time when there will be no masks. I think the turning point of public conditioning has been achieved. I think people have convinced themselves they LIKE wearing these things. Sickening.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (H8QX
It's close to 100% around me because it's mandatory. With a $500 fine from both the city and county. And my work requires it. The second I can be gainfully employed and not incur a $365,000 fine per year the mark is gone. If shit stays crazy here though, I'm moving and probably starting my life over.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:18 PM (H8QX
It's close to 100% around me because it's mandatory. With a $500 fine from both the city and county. And my work requires it. The second I can be gainfully employed and not incur a $365,000 fine per year the mark is gone. If shit stays crazy here though, I'm moving and probably starting my life over.
Posted by: banana Dream at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (wUcQu)
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435 The dems frauded bigly in 2016. The recounts stopped once it exposed how blatant it was.
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Yep. Remember them counting in PA until 3:30AM? I began to laugh around 8:30PM when they couldn't call PA for Hillary. All of a sudden CNN and MSNBC acted scared. It was wonderful.
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Yep. Remember them counting in PA until 3:30AM? I began to laugh around 8:30PM when they couldn't call PA for Hillary. All of a sudden CNN and MSNBC acted scared. It was wonderful.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (3FEhb)
447
Here it is:
https://tinyurl.com/y5elu343
Bail is $250K.
Posted by: rd
Thanks. So, he has to come up with $25K cash to buy a $250K appearance bond. That's a lot of blowjobs. I expect he'll eventually come up with the $25K, but his mouth will be tired when he gets out, though.
https://tinyurl.com/y5elu343
Bail is $250K.
Posted by: rd
Thanks. So, he has to come up with $25K cash to buy a $250K appearance bond. That's a lot of blowjobs. I expect he'll eventually come up with the $25K, but his mouth will be tired when he gets out, though.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (BM2fS)
448
432 Democrat........ 47%
Republican...... 39%
Does that change anything?
Posted by: 29Victor
Of course. The true numbers are closer to 45 - 45 with 10 undecided.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:29 PM (BM2fS)
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Eh...
The numbers from the poll match pretty closely with voter registration of the state from June:
https://tinyurl.com/y5tuznfo
(It's a pdf.)
Republican...... 39%
Does that change anything?
Posted by: 29Victor
Of course. The true numbers are closer to 45 - 45 with 10 undecided.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:29 PM (BM2fS)
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Eh...
The numbers from the poll match pretty closely with voter registration of the state from June:
https://tinyurl.com/y5tuznfo
(It's a pdf.)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:32 PM (UWqZJ)
449
I wonder if Biden has bought his celebratory fireworks yet.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at August 21, 2020 01:32 PM (ExV1e)
450
Adding hundreds of votes to ballot boxes that only include a few dozen votes total seems pretty focused.
Which is why I'm showing you how over-reporting in large populace areas that go largely Dem can have a huge result. But you're too busy with your snark to read it. Snark doesn't change math.
Philadelphia County went for Hillary in 2016 with 82% of the vote. I think we can assume they really like Hillary there. 700K votes were cast in Philadelphia County.
I'll bet my ass they over-report by at least 5%. Just that one county, if Trump is really doing 5 points better than last year, could yield an extra 30K votes for Biden.
So I'll ask again - how many points is Trump winning Pennsylvania by ? Because it only takes a few big counties cheating by 5% to null a small lead out.
Which is why I'm showing you how over-reporting in large populace areas that go largely Dem can have a huge result. But you're too busy with your snark to read it. Snark doesn't change math.
Philadelphia County went for Hillary in 2016 with 82% of the vote. I think we can assume they really like Hillary there. 700K votes were cast in Philadelphia County.
I'll bet my ass they over-report by at least 5%. Just that one county, if Trump is really doing 5 points better than last year, could yield an extra 30K votes for Biden.
So I'll ask again - how many points is Trump winning Pennsylvania by ? Because it only takes a few big counties cheating by 5% to null a small lead out.
Posted by: Round and Round We go at August 21, 2020 01:32 PM (x8pK0)
451
"Low fo voters don't have a clue. People who are engaged politically have absolutely no sense of just how low fo a low fo voter is."
Agree. A huge fraction of the electorate is taught to hate America, illiterate, and worst of all, innumerate. Case in point: Tammy Duckworth.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (qpX6U)
Ya know, I didn't think I could detest anyone more than Durbin, but Tammy's done it. What a detestable women.
Posted by: lizabth at August 21, 2020 01:24 PM (L3Rsz)
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Tammy Duckworth is Dick Durbin's creation.
When she came back to Illinois after getting her legs shot off in Iraq, Durbin took her under his wing and managed her political career. Everything she has now is a direct result of doing what the IL dem party tells her to do.
She's a minority, female, veteran who suffered a life changing injury because of George Bush's war in Iraq. They glommed onto her and have made her into what she is today.
She's been bought and apparently will stay bought.
Agree. A huge fraction of the electorate is taught to hate America, illiterate, and worst of all, innumerate. Case in point: Tammy Duckworth.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (qpX6U)
Ya know, I didn't think I could detest anyone more than Durbin, but Tammy's done it. What a detestable women.
Posted by: lizabth at August 21, 2020 01:24 PM (L3Rsz)
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Tammy Duckworth is Dick Durbin's creation.
When she came back to Illinois after getting her legs shot off in Iraq, Durbin took her under his wing and managed her political career. Everything she has now is a direct result of doing what the IL dem party tells her to do.
She's a minority, female, veteran who suffered a life changing injury because of George Bush's war in Iraq. They glommed onto her and have made her into what she is today.
She's been bought and apparently will stay bought.
Posted by: Boots at August 21, 2020 01:32 PM (oGBso)
Posted by: 538 at August 21, 2020 01:33 PM (xfb67)
453
I wonder if Biden has bought his celebratory fireworks yet.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at August 21, 2020 01:32 PM (ExV1e)
No, but I know where he can get some Roman pillars, cheap.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at August 21, 2020 01:32 PM (ExV1e)
No, but I know where he can get some Roman pillars, cheap.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)
454
435 The dems frauded bigly in 2016. The recounts stopped once it exposed how blatant it was.
yeah and I'm sure 2016 was the first time the Dems did that stuff, huh
anyway - some things (messing with state vote results via internet for one) are not going to work this time around for the left.
so I guess we'll see
yeah and I'm sure 2016 was the first time the Dems did that stuff, huh
anyway - some things (messing with state vote results via internet for one) are not going to work this time around for the left.
so I guess we'll see
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 21, 2020 01:33 PM (j9HX3)
455
The dems frauded bigly in 2016. The recounts stopped once it exposed how blatant it was.
That was one of the funniest moments in politics. Apparently Jill Stein was either completely unaware of how badly the Dems were cheating, or thought Trump cheated more, because she really went nuts pushing the recount in Michigan and every recount either showed gains for Trump or that the system was so much as disastrous mess that a recount wasn't possible (Detroit).
They stopped, dropped the whole matter, and the press never mentioned it again.
That was one of the funniest moments in politics. Apparently Jill Stein was either completely unaware of how badly the Dems were cheating, or thought Trump cheated more, because she really went nuts pushing the recount in Michigan and every recount either showed gains for Trump or that the system was so much as disastrous mess that a recount wasn't possible (Detroit).
They stopped, dropped the whole matter, and the press never mentioned it again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:33 PM (KZzsI)
456
81 I've noticed that nearly every "news" outlet is picking up on the moribund state of the USPS.
Broken sorting machines, food going bad, mail trucks breaking down, disappearing boxes... You know, the same shit that's been going on for the past dozen or so years. But now, all of a sudden it's a national emergency.
Had any of these idiots really planned on voting by mail, until they were told they need to vote by mail? Lemmings.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (8B6Ng)
As an engineer, I cannot believe any rational person wants to go with universal mail-out ballots without any independent testing at a reasonable scale, and given clear evidence of big problems in recent small-scale runs.
Broken sorting machines, food going bad, mail trucks breaking down, disappearing boxes... You know, the same shit that's been going on for the past dozen or so years. But now, all of a sudden it's a national emergency.
Had any of these idiots really planned on voting by mail, until they were told they need to vote by mail? Lemmings.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 21, 2020 12:45 PM (8B6Ng)
As an engineer, I cannot believe any rational person wants to go with universal mail-out ballots without any independent testing at a reasonable scale, and given clear evidence of big problems in recent small-scale runs.
Posted by: Gref at August 21, 2020 01:33 PM (AMIL/)
457
442 Then you clearly did not read what he wrote.
Well in his defense, it sounded a lot like moaning and rattling of chains
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (KZzs
I'm not talking about what I wrote.
Well in his defense, it sounded a lot like moaning and rattling of chains
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (KZzs
I'm not talking about what I wrote.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:33 PM (G2zl5)
458
437 . . . While getting ready for work this morning, I looked out my window and say a middle school aged boy walking along with his backpack going to school. He was alone and wearing a mask. It made me sad. What are the psychological effects of this on our kids?
Posted by: Cheri
____________
Not much worse than what we've already managed to accomplish.
Posted by: Cheri
____________
Not much worse than what we've already managed to accomplish.
Posted by: Education Majors Everywhere at August 21, 2020 01:33 PM (9vQJW)
459
More accurate post title: Joe Biden Ahead of Trump in Diaper Soilings... By a Mudslide
Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2020 01:34 PM (hku12)
460
If you're worried about the COVIDS I definitely wouldn't be eating any prepared food from anywhere.
The fecal-oral route is the likely main path of transmission, and now that restaurant employees are told to wear gloves and masks I bet there is a lot less hand washing. Not to mention that it is certainly active in other body fluids, and those gloves are adjusting the masks on the high school dropouts' faces without any hand washing in between now.
FWIW, the CDC and states have acknowledged that it takes 15 minutes of close contact with a positive carrier before you possibly maybe potentially catch it.
The fecal-oral route is the likely main path of transmission, and now that restaurant employees are told to wear gloves and masks I bet there is a lot less hand washing. Not to mention that it is certainly active in other body fluids, and those gloves are adjusting the masks on the high school dropouts' faces without any hand washing in between now.
FWIW, the CDC and states have acknowledged that it takes 15 minutes of close contact with a positive carrier before you possibly maybe potentially catch it.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 21, 2020 01:34 PM (QMjUf)
461
I clicked the link and saw this:
Democrat........ 47%
Republican...... 39%
Does that change anything?
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True PA polling by registration percentage would be 40D/32R/28I
So it is a pretty strong Dem oversample for an RV poll.
Democrat........ 47%
Republican...... 39%
Does that change anything?
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True PA polling by registration percentage would be 40D/32R/28I
So it is a pretty strong Dem oversample for an RV poll.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:34 PM (5p7BC)
462
People have been told that they must wear a mask or they cannot go out. They cannot go to the store to get the necessities they need to live.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (G2zl5)
I do not wear a mask. I walk right past the signs, past the questions. I haven't been kicked out of a store yet. One security guard told me "you have to wear a mask." I said "no I don't" and walked past him. Nothing happened.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (G2zl5)
I do not wear a mask. I walk right past the signs, past the questions. I haven't been kicked out of a store yet. One security guard told me "you have to wear a mask." I said "no I don't" and walked past him. Nothing happened.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:34 PM (H8QX8)
463
While getting ready for work this morning, I looked out my window and say a middle school aged boy walking along with his backpack going to school. He was alone and wearing a mask. It made me sad. What are the psychological effects of this on our kids?
Posted by: Cheri at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (oiNtH)
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Catastrophic would be my guess.
Posted by: Cheri at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (oiNtH)
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Catastrophic would be my guess.
Posted by: SMFH at August 21, 2020 01:35 PM (RU4sa)
464
She's been bought and apparently will stay bought.
Posted by: Boots
Oh yes, yes indeed. She's just loathsome. I can't stand listening to her blather.
Posted by: Boots
Oh yes, yes indeed. She's just loathsome. I can't stand listening to her blather.
Posted by: lizabth at August 21, 2020 01:35 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:35 PM (qpX6U)
466
455 The dems frauded bigly in 2016. The recounts stopped once it exposed how blatant it was.
That was one of the funniest moments in politics. Apparently Jill Stein was either completely unaware of how badly the Dems were cheating, or thought Trump cheated more, because she really went nuts pushing the recount in Michigan and every recount either showed gains for Trump or that the system was so much as disastrous mess that a recount wasn't possible (Detroit).
They stopped, dropped the whole matter, and the press never mentioned it again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:33 PM (KZzsI)
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I'm sure Trump, his campaign, and his lawyers have completely forgotten it too.
That was one of the funniest moments in politics. Apparently Jill Stein was either completely unaware of how badly the Dems were cheating, or thought Trump cheated more, because she really went nuts pushing the recount in Michigan and every recount either showed gains for Trump or that the system was so much as disastrous mess that a recount wasn't possible (Detroit).
They stopped, dropped the whole matter, and the press never mentioned it again.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:33 PM (KZzsI)
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I'm sure Trump, his campaign, and his lawyers have completely forgotten it too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 01:35 PM (UWqZJ)
467
My wife is uncomfortable going to restaurants still, so I cook and we do carry out..
But I do not judge anyone else's opinion to do more.. I have disagreed with the shutdowns from day one.
I still do not see why that makes me less conservative than anyone else.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:22 PM (CjFDo)
You probably misunderstood my point. I don't go to restaurants any more than you do - although I still leave the house and go to work downtown each day, once in a great while I'll get a sandwich with a coworker, but I mostly cook all my own food. Eating out needs to be fun, not worth it if it's a hassle.
I'm talking about people who have turned their homes into Fort Despair, and never leave for *anything*. They live their lives in constant fear that they *might* get sick. My wife, who has had plenty of health problems, had a unique perspective on this - she says "These are people who have never suffered, who thought everything was always going to be easy and fun. The first time in their lives they face a threat, they curl up into a ball and hide. If you've faced real suffering, then this is no big deal at all. You think Big Deal, Bring it."
I would add, I also think that people who think their own lives are The Most Important Thing Ever are of course going to be the ones who freak out the most. I like my life, of course, but I can think of a whole lot of things that I think are a lot more important than that.
But I do not judge anyone else's opinion to do more.. I have disagreed with the shutdowns from day one.
I still do not see why that makes me less conservative than anyone else.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 21, 2020 01:22 PM (CjFDo)
You probably misunderstood my point. I don't go to restaurants any more than you do - although I still leave the house and go to work downtown each day, once in a great while I'll get a sandwich with a coworker, but I mostly cook all my own food. Eating out needs to be fun, not worth it if it's a hassle.
I'm talking about people who have turned their homes into Fort Despair, and never leave for *anything*. They live their lives in constant fear that they *might* get sick. My wife, who has had plenty of health problems, had a unique perspective on this - she says "These are people who have never suffered, who thought everything was always going to be easy and fun. The first time in their lives they face a threat, they curl up into a ball and hide. If you've faced real suffering, then this is no big deal at all. You think Big Deal, Bring it."
I would add, I also think that people who think their own lives are The Most Important Thing Ever are of course going to be the ones who freak out the most. I like my life, of course, but I can think of a whole lot of things that I think are a lot more important than that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:35 PM (Kpl3J)
468
two days ago - in advance of some schools preparing to open for in person classes in PA - Fuhrer Wolf came out with an ORDER that all kids 2 and up must be masked ALL DAY LONG
to punish the students and schools who were going to open, against his wishes
that's what life is like here. you sweat it out every day, every week, to see what the Fuhrer will come out with to torment us with this time
and as the virus peters out, it just gets WORSE
to punish the students and schools who were going to open, against his wishes
that's what life is like here. you sweat it out every day, every week, to see what the Fuhrer will come out with to torment us with this time
and as the virus peters out, it just gets WORSE
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 21, 2020 01:36 PM (j9HX3)
469
The fecal-oral route is the likely main path of transmission,
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist
This I disagree with.
If it were true, the homeless population would have died out.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist
This I disagree with.
If it were true, the homeless population would have died out.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:36 PM (W2Pud)
470
No, its not conditioning. It is a government regulation where it is obvious that you are violating it. People are doing it because they are, by a huge majority, law abiding, and they believe that it is the right thing to do.
Posted by: An Observation at August 21, 2020 01:29 PM (zDN6V)
I view our decaying institution of law a lot less favorably than I used to, but there's not much value in causing a scene yet...
Though that may change after the election.
I think everyone is just in a holding pattern until our course is charted, for good or ill.
Posted by: An Observation at August 21, 2020 01:29 PM (zDN6V)
I view our decaying institution of law a lot less favorably than I used to, but there's not much value in causing a scene yet...
Though that may change after the election.
I think everyone is just in a holding pattern until our course is charted, for good or ill.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 21, 2020 01:36 PM (Q37hx)
471
I got curious as to when I started hanging out here . . . I know it was in the minx.cc comment site days, but that seems to be long gone and the Wayback Machine is no help.
But I did stumble across this from Ace on October 4, 2005:
You know where Bush screwed up? He screwed up by nominating Judge Roberts as Chief Justice.
Same as it ever was.
But I did stumble across this from Ace on October 4, 2005:
You know where Bush screwed up? He screwed up by nominating Judge Roberts as Chief Justice.
Same as it ever was.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:37 PM (NiXyF)
472
457 442 Then you clearly did not read what he wrote.
Well in his defense, it sounded a lot like moaning and rattling of chains
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (KZzs
I'm not talking about what I wrote.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:33 PM (G2zl5)
Ok, this made me laugh
Well in his defense, it sounded a lot like moaning and rattling of chains
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (KZzs
I'm not talking about what I wrote.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:33 PM (G2zl5)
Ok, this made me laugh
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 21, 2020 01:37 PM (ifmtJ)
473
The Big Coverup is the permanent damage from the shutdown. Permanent.
When the lid comes off... interesting times.
When the lid comes off... interesting times.
Posted by: klaftern at August 21, 2020 01:37 PM (RuIsu)
474
Meh, ignore what I said, I can't math today. TJM answered correctly.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:37 PM (5p7BC)
475
"No, but I know where he can get some Roman pillars, cheap.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe!"
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Are roman pillars cheaper than greek columns?
(And why is my spellcheck insisting that greek needs to be capitalized, but not roman?)
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe!"
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Are roman pillars cheaper than greek columns?
(And why is my spellcheck insisting that greek needs to be capitalized, but not roman?)
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at August 21, 2020 01:37 PM (Mm4NK)
476
462 People have been told that they must wear a mask or they cannot go out. They cannot go to the store to get the necessities they need to live.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (G2zl5)
I do not wear a mask. I walk right past the signs, past the questions. I haven't been kicked out of a store yet. One security guard told me "you have to wear a mask." I said "no I don't" and walked past him. Nothing happened.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:34 PM (H8QX
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Yeah, there are signs here in stores.
I'd say 50/50 compliance.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (G2zl5)
I do not wear a mask. I walk right past the signs, past the questions. I haven't been kicked out of a store yet. One security guard told me "you have to wear a mask." I said "no I don't" and walked past him. Nothing happened.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:34 PM (H8QX
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Yeah, there are signs here in stores.
I'd say 50/50 compliance.
Posted by: SMFH at August 21, 2020 01:37 PM (RU4sa)
477
462 People have been told that they must wear a mask or they cannot go out. They cannot go to the store to get the necessities they need to live.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (G2zl5)
I do not wear a mask. I walk right past the signs, past the questions. I haven't been kicked out of a store yet. One security guard told me "you have to wear a mask." I said "no I don't" and walked past him. Nothing happened.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:34 PM (H8QX
And neither do I with the exception of my job where I wear it wrong. But you are not most people. I am not most people. They hear you must wear a mask to buy groceries and that is what they do as the path of least resistance to get in and out. You drop the demand and they aren't going to bother taking the time to wear the mask.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (G2zl5)
I do not wear a mask. I walk right past the signs, past the questions. I haven't been kicked out of a store yet. One security guard told me "you have to wear a mask." I said "no I don't" and walked past him. Nothing happened.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:34 PM (H8QX
And neither do I with the exception of my job where I wear it wrong. But you are not most people. I am not most people. They hear you must wear a mask to buy groceries and that is what they do as the path of least resistance to get in and out. You drop the demand and they aren't going to bother taking the time to wear the mask.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (G2zl5)
478
452 You know what's even better than polls?
Computer models.
Posted by: 538
_____________
Preach it, brother.
Computer models.
Posted by: 538
_____________
Preach it, brother.
Posted by: Anthony "I Throw Even More Like A Girl Than Obama" Fauci at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (9vQJW)
479
dems frauded bigly in 2016. The recounts stopped once it exposed how blatant it was.
Posted by: Fortcoins at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (pt7BY)
They wanted Recount Theater.
But Jill Stein, that glorious dimwit, went and started an actual recount.
Can't have that, now, can we?
Posted by: Fortcoins at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (pt7BY)
They wanted Recount Theater.
But Jill Stein, that glorious dimwit, went and started an actual recount.
Can't have that, now, can we?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (VFZD4)
480
Wild Idea:
Trump wins 42-44 states, and about 400 EV.
President Trump demands a recount of Michigan and Pennsylvania. Do you remember some of the early results from the Jill Stein recount of Michigan?
I would love to see a complete accounting in those two states.
Trump wins 42-44 states, and about 400 EV.
President Trump demands a recount of Michigan and Pennsylvania. Do you remember some of the early results from the Jill Stein recount of Michigan?
I would love to see a complete accounting in those two states.
Posted by: rd at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (+0uDE)
481
These are people who have never suffered, who thought everything was always going to be easy and fun. The first time in their lives they face a threat, they curl up into a ball and hide. If you've faced real suffering, then this is no big deal at all. You think Big Deal, Bring it.
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Uh-huh. Yuuuuge part of the panic-prone people problem. Sheltered to such a degree that they've never had a serious problem. Lots of people in that boat. And that, I suppose, is an actual blessing of liberty and its attendant prosperity. But it has consequences, as everything does.
These are people who have never suffered, who thought everything was always going to be easy and fun. The first time in their lives they face a threat, they curl up into a ball and hide. If you've faced real suffering, then this is no big deal at all. You think Big Deal, Bring it.
-------
Uh-huh. Yuuuuge part of the panic-prone people problem. Sheltered to such a degree that they've never had a serious problem. Lots of people in that boat. And that, I suppose, is an actual blessing of liberty and its attendant prosperity. But it has consequences, as everything does.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2020 01:39 PM (xkm5f)
482
442 Then you clearly did not read what he wrote.
Well in his defense, it sounded a lot like moaning and rattling of chains
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (KZzsI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG0s6B-tMYo
Well in his defense, it sounded a lot like moaning and rattling of chains
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:31 PM (KZzsI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG0s6B-tMYo
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:39 PM (Kpl3J)
483
you are 1000 percent right klaftern
eventually people are going to start to realize the damage done by the lockdown
eventually people are going to start to realize the damage done by the lockdown
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 21, 2020 01:39 PM (j9HX3)
484
"I didn't think I could detest anyone more than Durbin, but Tammy's done it. What a detestable women."
I visited Beloit College about six years ago. My lib gf said, "Look gp, there's Duckworth speaking. She's a vet, so you should like her."
I visited Beloit College about six years ago. My lib gf said, "Look gp, there's Duckworth speaking. She's a vet, so you should like her."
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:39 PM (qpX6U)
485
They wanted Recount Theater.
But Jill Stein, that glorious dimwit, went and started an actual recount.
Can't have that, now, can we?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (VFZD4)
Just like they want the FBI to investigate the DNC being hacked, yet never let the FBI see their server.
But Jill Stein, that glorious dimwit, went and started an actual recount.
Can't have that, now, can we?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (VFZD4)
Just like they want the FBI to investigate the DNC being hacked, yet never let the FBI see their server.
Posted by: 538 at August 21, 2020 01:39 PM (xfb67)
486
would add, I also think that people who think their own lives are The Most Important Thing Ever are of course going to be the ones who freak out the most. I like my life, of course, but I can think of a whole lot of things that I think are a lot more important than that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:35 PM (Kpl3J)
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Well said.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:35 PM (Kpl3J)
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Well said.
Posted by: SMFH at August 21, 2020 01:40 PM (RU4sa)
487
The fecal-oral route is the likely main path of transmission,
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist
This I disagree with.
If it were true, the homeless population would have died out.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:36 PM (W2Pud)
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In a pandemic that only kills 0.24% of the 1 in 7 people who even know they have it out of the 1 in 9 people who manage to catch it? (I think I have my numbers right, although the 7 and 9 might be reversed)
They wouldn't be able to tell these sniffles from any other sniffles.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist
This I disagree with.
If it were true, the homeless population would have died out.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:36 PM (W2Pud)
-
In a pandemic that only kills 0.24% of the 1 in 7 people who even know they have it out of the 1 in 9 people who manage to catch it? (I think I have my numbers right, although the 7 and 9 might be reversed)
They wouldn't be able to tell these sniffles from any other sniffles.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 21, 2020 01:40 PM (QMjUf)
488
In a way, it is kind of sad for the Dems. They have perfected the art of election fraud to such a fine art that it is now required for them to win.
They can't really improve their vote totals any longer.
They can't really improve their vote totals any longer.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:40 PM (5p7BC)
489
485 They wanted Recount Theater.
But Jill Stein, that glorious dimwit, went and started an actual recount.
Can't have that, now, can we?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (VFZD4)
Just like they want the FBI to investigate the DNC being hacked, yet never let the FBI see their server.
Posted by: 538 at August 21, 2020 01:39 PM (xfb67)
So glad the FBI didn't see anything wrong with that.
But Jill Stein, that glorious dimwit, went and started an actual recount.
Can't have that, now, can we?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (VFZD4)
Just like they want the FBI to investigate the DNC being hacked, yet never let the FBI see their server.
Posted by: 538 at August 21, 2020 01:39 PM (xfb67)
So glad the FBI didn't see anything wrong with that.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 01:40 PM (6hvzW)
490
Thanks. So, he has to come up with $25K cash to buy a $250K appearance bond. That's a lot of blowjobs. I expect he'll eventually come up with the $25K, but his mouth will be tired when he gets out, though.
=============================
He'll get sprung fast. There's a big pile of cash thanks to Soros, Kamal-toe and various celebs to get these terrorists out walking around again. And at the end of the day it won't matter, you need a DA/PA to actually prosecute.
Soros has made sure they won't.
=============================
He'll get sprung fast. There's a big pile of cash thanks to Soros, Kamal-toe and various celebs to get these terrorists out walking around again. And at the end of the day it won't matter, you need a DA/PA to actually prosecute.
Soros has made sure they won't.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 21, 2020 01:41 PM (7Fj9P)
491
I don't go out much. Our Dear Leader Kate Brown makes everyone wear masks in public places, and most of the people I have knows since childhood and more recently have shown themselves to be willing to drive themselves mentally ill over all of this.
I don't want to wear a mask and I would rather not deal with people who could turn into a mob.
I don't want to wear a mask and I would rather not deal with people who could turn into a mob.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2020 01:41 PM (WyVLE)
492
eventually people are going to start to realize the damage done by the lockdown
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 21, 2020 01:39 PM (j9HX3)
More and more people are realizing it, as they're discovering that they won't be able to send their kids back to school in the fall.
Lots of soccer moms will receive enlightenment.
"What do you mean I have to keep living with my hellions 24/7/365! OPEN THE FUCKING SCHOOLS!!!"
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 21, 2020 01:39 PM (j9HX3)
More and more people are realizing it, as they're discovering that they won't be able to send their kids back to school in the fall.
Lots of soccer moms will receive enlightenment.
"What do you mean I have to keep living with my hellions 24/7/365! OPEN THE FUCKING SCHOOLS!!!"
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:41 PM (NiXyF)
493
Are roman pillars cheaper than greek columns?
(And why is my spellcheck insisting that greek needs to be capitalized, but not roman?)
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at August 21, 2020 01:37 PM (Mm4NK)
Well, shit.
(And why is my spellcheck insisting that greek needs to be capitalized, but not roman?)
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at August 21, 2020 01:37 PM (Mm4NK)
Well, shit.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 21, 2020 01:41 PM (Zz0t1)
494
A good point, don't underestimate who controls the DOJ this time.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (5p7BC)
The Deep State?
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 21, 2020 01:23 PM (5p7BC)
The Deep State?
Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2020 01:42 PM (ZfRYq)
495
We are have to wear a mask everywhere (CA nazis) so I have fun with it...mine is mesh like with lots of sequins, very bling.
Posted by: IC at August 21, 2020 01:42 PM (a0IVu)
496
NOOD, Fat.
Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 01:42 PM (NiXyF)
497
nature dot com on homeless pandemic:
https://tinyurl.com/y7nx3rzz
"In one recent study, researchers found that only one individual out of 147 who tested positive in a homeless shelter in Boston, Massachusetts, would have met the official criterion for testing - a fever"
https://tinyurl.com/y7nx3rzz
"In one recent study, researchers found that only one individual out of 147 who tested positive in a homeless shelter in Boston, Massachusetts, would have met the official criterion for testing - a fever"
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 21, 2020 01:42 PM (QMjUf)
498
THe Seattle School district just got around to laying off their bus drivers. they haven't worked since, what, MARCH?
Teachers need to be furloughed.
And all admin should be let go.
Teachers need to be furloughed.
And all admin should be let go.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 01:43 PM (W2Pud)
499
477 462 People have been told that they must wear a mask or they cannot go out. They cannot go to the store to get the necessities they need to live.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (G2zl5)
I do not wear a mask. I walk right past the signs, past the questions. I haven't been kicked out of a store yet. One security guard told me "you have to wear a mask." I said "no I don't" and walked past him. Nothing happened.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:34 PM (H8QX
And neither do I with the exception of my job where I wear it wrong. But you are not most people. I am not most people. They hear you must wear a mask to buy groceries and that is what they do as the path of least resistance to get in and out. You drop the demand and they aren't going to bother taking the time to wear the mask.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (G2zl5)
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Until they made it a Governor Walz Emergency Order, Target had a mask rule that was pretty much ignored in my area. The workers even ignored it and had their masks on their chins.
After the order, the employees cleaned up their act. Everyone started wearing a mask.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:30 PM (G2zl5)
I do not wear a mask. I walk right past the signs, past the questions. I haven't been kicked out of a store yet. One security guard told me "you have to wear a mask." I said "no I don't" and walked past him. Nothing happened.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 21, 2020 01:34 PM (H8QX
And neither do I with the exception of my job where I wear it wrong. But you are not most people. I am not most people. They hear you must wear a mask to buy groceries and that is what they do as the path of least resistance to get in and out. You drop the demand and they aren't going to bother taking the time to wear the mask.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (G2zl5)
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Until they made it a Governor Walz Emergency Order, Target had a mask rule that was pretty much ignored in my area. The workers even ignored it and had their masks on their chins.
After the order, the employees cleaned up their act. Everyone started wearing a mask.
Posted by: rd at August 21, 2020 01:43 PM (+0uDE)
500
Wild Idea:
Trump wins 42-44 states, and about 400 EV.
President Trump demands a recount of Michigan and Pennsylvania. Do you remember some of the early results from the Jill Stein recount of Michigan?
I would love to see a complete accounting in those two states.
Posted by: rd at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (+0uDE)
I strongly doubt it, but if that did happen, there'd suddenly be a lot of new parties springing up on the Left to challenge the Democrats, in the hope of replacing them. A major national party showing that weakly has a foot in the grave.
Trump wins 42-44 states, and about 400 EV.
President Trump demands a recount of Michigan and Pennsylvania. Do you remember some of the early results from the Jill Stein recount of Michigan?
I would love to see a complete accounting in those two states.
Posted by: rd at August 21, 2020 01:38 PM (+0uDE)
I strongly doubt it, but if that did happen, there'd suddenly be a lot of new parties springing up on the Left to challenge the Democrats, in the hope of replacing them. A major national party showing that weakly has a foot in the grave.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 21, 2020 01:43 PM (Q37hx)
501
Thanks shark, but that's the same info all the news sites have. I need a time of day so I can see if I can be down there.
And thanks also for the prayers.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
He's showing up here as well. So perhaps a call to them Monday morning will garner a time.
Flavor 1st Growers and Packers
Packing/Processing/Storage/Distribution
3240 Banner Farm Road
Mills River, NC 28759
Phone: 828-890-3631
He's also showing up at the Charlotte Convention Center late that day because the Repub Convention starts Monday. Their number is: 800-231-4636. They don't have the schedule posted yet, but I imagine they'll have it.
And thanks also for the prayers.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
He's showing up here as well. So perhaps a call to them Monday morning will garner a time.
Flavor 1st Growers and Packers
Packing/Processing/Storage/Distribution
3240 Banner Farm Road
Mills River, NC 28759
Phone: 828-890-3631
He's also showing up at the Charlotte Convention Center late that day because the Repub Convention starts Monday. Their number is: 800-231-4636. They don't have the schedule posted yet, but I imagine they'll have it.
Posted by: Sharkman at August 21, 2020 01:43 PM (BM2fS)
502
"There's a big pile of cash thanks to Soros, Kamal-toe and various celebs to get these terrorists out walking around again."
All of our local protestors get instantly bailed out by one of our former alderwomen, Letitia W. Nobody asks her where all the money comes from.
All of our local protestors get instantly bailed out by one of our former alderwomen, Letitia W. Nobody asks her where all the money comes from.
Posted by: gp, Blinded By The Bright Light Of Biden at August 21, 2020 01:43 PM (qpX6U)
Posted by: jwest at August 21, 2020 01:43 PM (/BlEx)
504
Dems know they have two losers for candidates. What they want is what they do best: Destroy.
They're after the last pillar of our republic. They want to dissolve all trust in the American electoral process.
They're after the last pillar of our republic. They want to dissolve all trust in the American electoral process.
Posted by: Justsayin' at August 21, 2020 01:44 PM (Fs5vw)
505
I only got about 5 weeks of working from home from the lockdown. Then it was back to regular work schedule with the added benefit of knowing we aren't making any money and everyone could be laid off at any time.
But, I'm thankful for what I have. I know many people got it a lot worse.
But, I'm thankful for what I have. I know many people got it a lot worse.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 21, 2020 01:44 PM (xfb67)
506
Uh-huh. Yuuuuge part of the panic-prone people
problem. Sheltered to such a degree that they've never had a serious
problem. Lots of people in that boat. And that, I suppose, is an actual
blessing of liberty and its attendant prosperity. But it has
consequences, as everything does.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2020 01:39 PM (xkm5f)
People stating that the role of government is to prevent people from making bad choices, people looking to use the government powers to enforce what they think is the right choice.
I have some respect for people that want everyone to obey the laws they feel required to obey and they hate, but not a lot. The rest . . .
problem. Sheltered to such a degree that they've never had a serious
problem. Lots of people in that boat. And that, I suppose, is an actual
blessing of liberty and its attendant prosperity. But it has
consequences, as everything does.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 21, 2020 01:39 PM (xkm5f)
People stating that the role of government is to prevent people from making bad choices, people looking to use the government powers to enforce what they think is the right choice.
I have some respect for people that want everyone to obey the laws they feel required to obey and they hate, but not a lot. The rest . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2020 01:44 PM (WyVLE)
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@45_ Gref, that's not the way these people think. Remember the Obamacare website launch?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2020 01:45 PM (cQd8v)
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They're after the last pillar of our republic. They want to dissolve all trust in the American electoral process.
Posted by: Justsayin' at August 21, 2020 01:44 PM (Fs5vw)
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As far as I'm concerned, they've succeeded.
Posted by: Justsayin' at August 21, 2020 01:44 PM (Fs5vw)
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As far as I'm concerned, they've succeeded.
Posted by: SMFH at August 21, 2020 01:46 PM (RU4sa)
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You probably misunderstood my point. I don't go to restaurants any more than you do - although I still leave the house and go to work downtown each day, once in a great while I'll get a sandwich with a coworker, but I mostly cook all my own food. Eating out needs to be fun, not worth it if it's a hassle.
I'm talking about people who have turned their homes into Fort Despair, and never leave for *anything*. They live their lives in constant fear that they *might* get sick. My wife, who has had plenty of health problems, had a unique perspective on this - she says "These are people who have never suffered, who thought everything was always going to be easy and fun. The first time in their lives they face a threat, they curl up into a ball and hide. If you've faced real suffering, then this is no big deal at all. You think Big Deal, Bring it."
I would add, I also think that people who think their own lives are The Most Important Thing Ever are of course going to be the ones who freak out the most. I like my life, of course, but I can think of a whole lot of things that I think are a lot more important than that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:35 PM (Kpl3J)
I try to be respectful of people who are, in my view, overly cautious about this virus nonsense, and I SEPARATE them from those with legitimate health concerns that require them to take precautions that are way more than I would/need.
Even so, the overly cautious are doing themselves a disservice, even if it MIGHT not be my place to tell them so.
What gets me boiling though, I have a mother who checks all the risk boxes, and STILL has more fight in her than many other people I see. She's fairly well fed up with her children who want to baby her, and do their share of virtue signaling around who CARES for our mother more than whom.
My challenge then, is not getting too snotty with my siblings (and their meddling spouses). I try to take a lesson from my mother on that count, but I'm nowhere near as full of wisdom and forbearance as she is.
I'm talking about people who have turned their homes into Fort Despair, and never leave for *anything*. They live their lives in constant fear that they *might* get sick. My wife, who has had plenty of health problems, had a unique perspective on this - she says "These are people who have never suffered, who thought everything was always going to be easy and fun. The first time in their lives they face a threat, they curl up into a ball and hide. If you've faced real suffering, then this is no big deal at all. You think Big Deal, Bring it."
I would add, I also think that people who think their own lives are The Most Important Thing Ever are of course going to be the ones who freak out the most. I like my life, of course, but I can think of a whole lot of things that I think are a lot more important than that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 01:35 PM (Kpl3J)
I try to be respectful of people who are, in my view, overly cautious about this virus nonsense, and I SEPARATE them from those with legitimate health concerns that require them to take precautions that are way more than I would/need.
Even so, the overly cautious are doing themselves a disservice, even if it MIGHT not be my place to tell them so.
What gets me boiling though, I have a mother who checks all the risk boxes, and STILL has more fight in her than many other people I see. She's fairly well fed up with her children who want to baby her, and do their share of virtue signaling around who CARES for our mother more than whom.
My challenge then, is not getting too snotty with my siblings (and their meddling spouses). I try to take a lesson from my mother on that count, but I'm nowhere near as full of wisdom and forbearance as she is.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 21, 2020 01:46 PM (hku12)
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nurse, the CDC and states also recommend not sharing a bathroom if you test positive, and were pulling people out of homes with only one bathroom when this thing first started. I'm guessing that's not because there's a bunch of bathroom sneezing involved.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 21, 2020 01:47 PM (QMjUf)
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When you don't order the specials at the local diner, the terrorists win.
Posted by: jwest at August 21, 2020 01:49 PM (/BlEx)
512
I'm sure Trump, his campaign, and his lawyers have completely forgotten it too.
By all appearances, yeah, they have. remember when VP Pence was going to get TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS fraud thing?
Then dropped it, and in 2018 just let the Democrats cheat to win like 6 seats in congress? BOy they were all over that huh?
By all appearances, yeah, they have. remember when VP Pence was going to get TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS fraud thing?
Then dropped it, and in 2018 just let the Democrats cheat to win like 6 seats in congress? BOy they were all over that huh?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 01:53 PM (KZzsI)
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I'm looking forward to the shock on mainstream commentators faces when they begin to figure out that 10's of Millions of moderate and right leaning Americans stopped answering polls about 4 years ago. How many non-lefties would even take the operational security risk of talking to a pollster they don't know right now? Given this years escalation of leftists lunacy driven violence this year how many people would know a legitimate pollster from someone seeking targets to later harass or commit vandalism/arson against?
I think out of an abundance of caution lots and lots of Americans who don't fall in line with the prevailing CNN/MSNBC/NY Times/DNC worldview are opting to remain silent or ignore polling opportunities. My guess is that the silence on the right, coupled with intentional undersampling of right leaning voters means that the polls are understating conservative candidate support by at least 10-15% and possibly as much as 20%. I'm not going to hold my breath due to commie shenanigans and the potential for massive vote fraud, but I still think we are looking at a massive Trump landslide with broad coattails for any Republican who isn't under current indictment (and probably some who are if the charges are filed by Soros funded DA's).
I think out of an abundance of caution lots and lots of Americans who don't fall in line with the prevailing CNN/MSNBC/NY Times/DNC worldview are opting to remain silent or ignore polling opportunities. My guess is that the silence on the right, coupled with intentional undersampling of right leaning voters means that the polls are understating conservative candidate support by at least 10-15% and possibly as much as 20%. I'm not going to hold my breath due to commie shenanigans and the potential for massive vote fraud, but I still think we are looking at a massive Trump landslide with broad coattails for any Republican who isn't under current indictment (and probably some who are if the charges are filed by Soros funded DA's).
Posted by: Justasheep at August 21, 2020 01:56 PM (L9Eia)
514
Hey...Hey ... Hey...
Posted by: Fat Albert c/o the Warden State Correctional Institution at August 21, 2020 01:59 PM (Men5k)
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Uh-huh. Yuuuuge part of the panic-prone people
problem. Sheltered to such a degree that they've never had a serious problem. Lots of people in that boat.
And remember, people under the age of say, 60, have really faced no real hardship in their lives. No major deadly wars, no serious illnesses, no depression, etc.
Older folks went through the world war, vietnam, polio, smallpox, hong kong flu, the great depression, it goes on and on. They've faced real dangers and hardship.
Younger people have no perspective, to them this is THE WORST THING EVER THE WORLD WAS GOING TO DIE. They have no reference point to worse times to compare. Its like when your toddler skins a knee. Never before in their lives have they experienced pain like this. Its bad, and boy does it hurt, but by the time you're 20 you've had far, far worse and know its not as bad as you thought.
problem. Sheltered to such a degree that they've never had a serious problem. Lots of people in that boat.
And remember, people under the age of say, 60, have really faced no real hardship in their lives. No major deadly wars, no serious illnesses, no depression, etc.
Older folks went through the world war, vietnam, polio, smallpox, hong kong flu, the great depression, it goes on and on. They've faced real dangers and hardship.
Younger people have no perspective, to them this is THE WORST THING EVER THE WORLD WAS GOING TO DIE. They have no reference point to worse times to compare. Its like when your toddler skins a knee. Never before in their lives have they experienced pain like this. Its bad, and boy does it hurt, but by the time you're 20 you've had far, far worse and know its not as bad as you thought.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 21, 2020 02:01 PM (KZzsI)
516
I like big butts and I can not lie...
I like big butts and I can not lie...
Posted by: Peter Paul Rubens at August 21, 2020 02:03 PM (Men5k)
517
I like rubenesque women.
I like rubenesque women.
Posted by: Sir Mix-a-Lot at August 21, 2020 02:05 PM (Men5k)
518
I do too PP Rubens and Sir Mix... I'm guessing a lot of us Morons due. My wife's current obsession with dieting is really just a benefit to her long term health and pretty redundant if she's seeking to be more attractive to me.
Posted by: Justasheep at August 21, 2020 02:09 PM (L9Eia)
519
246 I need to buy a .45. Niners are okay, but I may have to go for bigger game. Ideas, anyone??
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (bCLt0)
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RUGER SR45. Idiot proof, very easy to use, low recoil.
Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 01:01 PM (bCLt0)
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Posted by: Bonecrusher at August 21, 2020 02:21 PM (JNTt1)
520
Well they know Biden is ahead because polls can't factor in the massive fraud that takes place in philly every 4 years. Republicans need to invest in poll watchers in states that may be close.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 21, 2020 03:58 PM (U7hCZ)
521
Thanks to Governor Wolf and "Rachel" Levine, the hate for Democrats and their policies is very real here in PA. The Dynamic Duo has managed to only increase the energy for Trump and disdain for Biden.
Posted by: Eric at August 21, 2020 03:59 PM (4q3U3)
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Well they know Biden is ahead because polls can't factor in the massive fraud that takes place in philly every 4 years. Republicans need to invest in poll watchers in states that may be close.
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Trump just said that on Hannity: massive outpouring of law enforcement to de-thugify the polls. Also seems to have controlled the mail-in voting with his bud running the USPO.
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Trump just said that on Hannity: massive outpouring of law enforcement to de-thugify the polls. Also seems to have controlled the mail-in voting with his bud running the USPO.
Posted by: The War PLanner at August 21, 2020 11:30 PM (vRqzK)
523
Joe Biden is actually trailing and trailing badly. The samples always over-sample democrats & left leaning independents and always under-sample republicans and right leaning independents. If the Democrat, Biden in this case, isn't ahead by at least 10 points than he is actually behind.
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