You Tout Socialism For Others? Well Here It Is For You: Good And Hard!

Bernie, after you have spent your entire career spouting nonsense and supporting pretty much every crackpot leftist idea, you finally stumbled onto one that makes real (read: angry) conservatives smile.

I wholeheartedly support this bill!

Sen. Sanders proposes one-time tax that would cost Bezos $42.8 billion, Musk $27.5 billion

The “Make Billionaires Pay Act” would impose a one-time 60% tax on wealth gains made by billionaires between March 18, 2020, and Jan. 1, 2021. The funds would be used to pay for out-of-pocket health-care expenses for all Americans for a year. As of Aug. 5, the bill would tax $731 billion in wealth accumulated by 467 billionaires since March 18, according to a press release. If passed, the bill would tax billionaires on wealth accumulated through the end of the year, however.

From a rational public policy perspective, it is stupendously, catastrophically, wildly counter-productive. And as tax policy it is even worse. But I don't care. Stick it to our current crop of billionaires, whose wealth is sheltered to a large extent from the depredations of the Democrat party (and, sadly, many Republicans). It is so very easy for them to advocate spending other people's money, because even confiscatory taxes injure others far more than they. Tax Bezos' income at the highest marginal rate, and he is still left with an almost unimaginable amount of money. Tax a small business owner at the same rate and he must carefully budget and allocate and modify his spending to survive.

The schadenfreude if this ever manages to pass (of course it won't) would be delicious, and would absolutely last for more than four hours. Imagine the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments among the Silicon Valley elite, or the sneaky old bastard in Omaha, or Soros!

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 First so I'll get em

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2020 12:01 PM (OjZpE)

2 It's a nood!

Posted by: That guy who always says... at August 09, 2020 12:01 PM (EgshT)

3 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 09, 2020 12:02 PM (arJlL)

4 Taking even half or maybe %60 of a billionaire's money still leaves him well enough high and dry from the riff-raff life.

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2020 12:04 PM (OjZpE)

5 The old commies who used to simply push for nationalization of industries were a lot more honest.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 09, 2020 12:05 PM (V2Yro)

6 None of them would pay it. The Iron Law of Wealth Distribution is that all the intelligent hard-working accountants work for billionaires: all the crappy lazy accountants work for the government. So all attempts at wealth confiscation must fail.

Posted by: Martin Adamson at August 09, 2020 12:05 PM (5HEuz)

7 A lot of Billionaires claim they don't pay enough but nothing stops them from cutting a few million check to the IRS, so it's all BS showmanship.

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2020 12:06 PM (OjZpE)

8

St. Warren Buffett is always whining that he doesn't pay enough in taxes. I'm sure he'll be all on board for Comrade Bernie's plan

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2020 12:06 PM (ru+Ca)

9 The funds would be used to pay for out-of-pocket health-care expenses for all Americans for a year

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No. F*ck that. If we're full on socialists now, fine. Just take it and distribute it equally, because if we're stealing it to hand it out anyway then there's no way a drug-addled, diabetic, obese f*ckup should get $180K to pay for his methadone and AIDS treatments while this healthy family of four gets $500.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 12:06 PM (9UHPJ)

10 Wow. I never thought I would support something Sanders spouted, but I kinda like this. As long as it doesn't trickle down and affect those of us who don't make anything like that kind of money, but do actually earn a living. Because the middle class ALWAYS gets screwed in something like this. Our taxes will go up another ten or fifteen percent, and these 1 percenters (actual one percenters) won't really feel anything because they will make it back next year.

Posted by: Moki at August 09, 2020 12:07 PM (+X9Vs)

11 The point is, of course, is that if they give themselves the legal right to seize *their* money, then at the same time they have just given themselves the legal power to seize all of *your* money. That's the real game, after all - pick a victim no one likes to establish power over everyone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 09, 2020 12:07 PM (V2Yro)

12 Didn't Jeff's wife already do that to him?

Posted by: Art at August 09, 2020 12:08 PM (cts7U)

13 None of them would pay it. The Iron Law of Wealth Distribution is that all the intelligent hard-working accountants work for billionaires: all the crappy lazy accountants work for the government. So all attempts at wealth confiscation must fail.
Posted by: Martin Adamson at August 09, 2020 12:05 PM (5HEuz)

Same in Japan. Sort of.

The Yakuza are well-known for paying tip-top dollar for the best accounting students and business student who graduate from Tokyo University (their equivalent of Harvard).

Posted by: naturalfake at August 09, 2020 12:08 PM (dWwl8)

14 As long as it doesn't trickle down and affect those of us who don't make anything like that kind of money, "

It ALWAYS trickles down.

because it is MEANT to trickle down.

That's the entire point of doing it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 09, 2020 12:08 PM (V2Yro)

15 11- like minds, my friend.

Posted by: Moki at August 09, 2020 12:09 PM (+X9Vs)

16 My favorite part would be that it would wipe out the value of Amazon.

Because the lefties believe his "wealth" is stored in a bin Scrooge McDuck style.

And not in stock. And forcing Bezos to dump and keep dumping stock until he can pay? Each share sold selling for less than the next.

LOLGF.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 09, 2020 12:09 PM (aO8Gd)

17 Yeah, it won't pass, but it will be necessary for the various bought and paid for politicians to twist themselves in knots, trying to speak on behalf of their real constituents.

So I say let's have a national debate on Soak the Rich (tm).

And while we're at it, let's have a national debate on saving our poor suffering sportsball franchises.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 09, 2020 12:10 PM (hku12)

18 I like this idea.

Posted by: freaked at August 09, 2020 12:11 PM (Tnijr)

19 Bernie won't give that "Soak the Rich" chicken a break.

Posted by: klaftern at August 09, 2020 12:11 PM (RuIsu)

20 Taking even half or maybe %60 of a billionaire's money still leaves him well enough high and dry from the riff-raff life.

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2020 12:04 PM (OjZpE)

Taxed @99% Bezos is still worth almost 4.3 billion.

Posted by: BignJames at August 09, 2020 12:11 PM (X/Pw5)

21 I love how Sanders and all the other ignorants, like AOC, propose taking, stealing, plundering, tearing down from everybody but themselves.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 09, 2020 12:13 PM (O+I8R)

22 The only way Bezos calls off his attack dogs at the Washington Post is if he thinks the mob is coming for him.

Currently, the tech elite thinks that they can buy off the proles with Universal Basic Income, while maintaining their opulent lifestyles.

'Eff 'em.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 09, 2020 12:13 PM (I2/tG)

23 Tax them in a way that is equal to the inflation rate eating up the savings of the middle class.

We're all in this together, bitches.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 12:13 PM (9UHPJ)

24
And while we're at it, let's have a national debate on saving our poor suffering sportsball franchises.
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Wonder how the taxpayers paying for those empty stadiums are feeling?

Are we all in this together?

LOLGF.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 09, 2020 12:14 PM (aO8Gd)

25 Since PDT has lost money being President, this might be a bill he would enjoy signing.

Posted by: EveR at August 09, 2020 12:14 PM (ZZDMQ)

26 I agree, hit liberal interests hard with taxes, just to watch them squeal.

Same with all the Hollywood tax accounting and "foundations" that are little more than tax dodges for billionaires to play in politics.

Posted by: Blago at August 09, 2020 12:14 PM (gkdnV)

27 If they include a clause that specifies tar and feathers and rode out on a rail I'm all fer it.

Posted by: freaked at August 09, 2020 12:14 PM (Tnijr)

28 Rich Lowry of the National Review is Concerned about Trump's executive orders:

Even if these acts are technically legal, they run counter to the spirit of our system, and continue the long-running trend of an overweening executive branch steam-rolling a feckless Congress

I'm Concerned too!

Posted by: The Guy Who Is Concerned! at August 09, 2020 12:15 PM (I2/tG)

29 ...and take their gold fillings too.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 09, 2020 12:15 PM (1g7ch)

30 I have long been in favor of raiding the wealth of the dissolute monasteries, um, University endowments.

Posted by: King Miklos-Henry VIII at August 09, 2020 12:15 PM (QzkSJ)

31 After seeing the masks come off our billionaire class, I now know what they really are, if I only suspected before... roll the the start date back to 1980, and give 100% of revenue to charities promoting traditional marriage, gun rights, and the Hawaiian shirt industry. Then, order the black marias to go collect these fucksticks, and toss them into a metal shredder on live TV at Madison Square Garden. Saddam-style, but with chorus girls and a laser show.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:16 PM (4s4Jc)

32 Article somewhere had one of the teenager magazines was calling for abolishing personal property.
That the new generation is getting Communist indoctrination at school I think will doom us eventually to that move to Venezuela we have nightmares about.

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2020 12:16 PM (OjZpE)

33 Funny how people like Buffett agitate for higher income taxes, knowing full well it won't touch them because they don't make the bulk of their money as "regular income" as defined in the tax code, and get taxed at lower rates. Plus they use all manners of gifts, trusts, and foundations to shelter huge portions of their wealth. So that leaves the non-uber-wealthy holding the bag, of course. Got to crush that middle/upper-middle class. And anytime any one of these bazilliionaires want to pay more to the fed, and even earmark it for paying down the national debt, they can. So put your money where your mouth is, or shut the fuck up and fuck off home to one of your 12,000 square foot mansions.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:16 PM (NWiLs)

34 and "foundations" that are little more than tax dodges for billionaires to play in politics.

While also providing salaries and expense accounts for the billionaire's no-account relatives.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 09, 2020 12:17 PM (I2/tG)

35 31 After seeing the masks come off our billionaire class, I now know what they really are, if I only suspected before... roll the the start date back to 1980, and give 100% of revenue to charities promoting traditional marriage, gun rights, and the Hawaiian shirt industry. Then, order the black marias to go collect these fucksticks, and toss them into a metal shredder on live TV at Madison Square Garden. Saddam-style, but with chorus girls and a laser show.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:16 PM (4s4Jc)

Do you have newsletter to which I might subscribe?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:17 PM (NWiLs)

36 11 The point is, of course, is that if they give themselves the legal right to seize *their* money, then at the same time they have just given themselves the legal power to seize all of *your* money. That's the real game, after all - pick a victim no one likes to establish power over everyone.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 09, 2020 12:07 PM (V2Yro)

^^^^
This. I don't believe for a minute that the country's Bezos will pay a dime. It will filter down to a general "tax the rich" and will end up soaking the middle class again. Good and hard, as they say.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at August 09, 2020 12:17 PM (99Nt9)

37 Would love to as Rich Lowry if Barky signing DACA concerned him, even just a teeny tiny bit.

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2020 12:18 PM (OjZpE)

38
why March 18th? Is that the day bernie dropped out of the race?

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 09, 2020 12:18 PM (rgWqH)

39 This. I don't believe for a minute that the country's Bezos will pay a dime. It will filter down to a general "tax the rich" and will end up soaking the middle class again. Good and hard, as they say.
Posted by: Russkilitlover at August 09, 2020 12:17 PM (99Nt9)

Which is always how these things play out.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:18 PM (NWiLs)

40 Saddam-style, but with chorus girls and a laser show.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Mirrored Disco Balls?

Please?

Posted by: Miklos Could be happy at August 09, 2020 12:19 PM (QzkSJ)

41 um, University endowments.

At some point a university has made enough money.

Posted by: Zombie Barack Obama! at August 09, 2020 12:19 PM (I2/tG)

42 Are we all in this together?

Yes!!! Stay safe.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at August 09, 2020 12:19 PM (EgshT)

43 Rich Lowry of the National Review is Concerned about Trump's executive orders

Lowry's a douche, but as rhomboid pointed out Trump's deadbeat renter protection and deadbeat student protection because ZOMG virus! EO is just flat-out counter to capitalism.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 09, 2020 12:19 PM (luzVb)

44 propose taking, stealing, plundering, tearing down from everybody but themselves.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 09, 2020 12:13 PM (O+I8R)

Isn't the saying.. socialism isn't for the socialist

Posted by: A dude in MI at August 09, 2020 12:19 PM (/6GbT)

45 Say, did the Republicans vote on a flat tax during the time that (R)s controlled the House and Senate under the most conservative president since Coolidge?

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 12:19 PM (9UHPJ)

46 After seeing the masks come off our billionaire
class, I now know what they really are, if I only suspected before...
roll the the start date back to 1980, and give 100% of revenue to
charities promoting traditional marriage, gun rights, and the Hawaiian
shirt industry. Then, order the black marias to go collect these
fucksticks, and toss them into a metal shredder on live TV at Madison
Square Garden. Saddam-style, but with chorus girls and a laser show.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:16 PM (4s4Jc)

Cut, jib, newsletter

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2020 12:20 PM (ru+Ca)

47 Just like the. Purge movie but more billions..

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 09, 2020 12:20 PM (pB6Gt)

48 Wouldn't it be funny if this tax passed, then someone slipped Chief Justice Roberts some shroom tea and then he cast the deciding vote declaring the tax a mandate to buy a product and therefore unconstitutional.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at August 09, 2020 12:20 PM (cCxiu)

49 And while we're at it, let's have a national debate on saving our poor suffering sportsball franchises.
---
Wonder how the taxpayers paying for those empty stadiums are feeling?

Are we all in this together?

LOLGF.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 09, 2020 12:14 PM (aO8Gd)

Someone PLEASE tell me Stan Kronky's NFL shrine out there in Lost Angles is going to be a financial bloodbath for that pig, as well as the other pig owners.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 09, 2020 12:21 PM (hku12)

50 45 Say, did the Republicans vote on a flat tax during the time that (R)s controlled the House and Senate under the most conservative president since Coolidge?
Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 12:19 PM (9UHPJ)

Absent complete societal and governmental collapse, Title 26 and the related tax regs will never be undone. Ever.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:21 PM (NWiLs)

51 Would love to as Rich Lowry if Barky signing DACA concerned him, even just a teeny tiny bit.

Well that, and when Barky decided to shovel billions of dollars to health insurance companies to bail them out without Congressional authorization.

I didn't hear Leftists complaining about "the power of the purse" then.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 09, 2020 12:21 PM (I2/tG)

52 Isn't the saying.. socialism isn't for the socialist
Posted by: A dude in MI

Communism worked well if you had USD.

Posted by: Miklos, recalling how cheap Hungary and the Croatian seacoast was in about 1984 at August 09, 2020 12:22 PM (QzkSJ)

53 Oddly enough it looks like Barr is letting Omar off the hook for her immigration scam.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 09, 2020 12:22 PM (L9P9s)

54 My favorite part would be that it would wipe out the value of Amazon.

Because the lefties believe his "wealth" is stored in a bin Scrooge McDuck style.

[ . . . ]

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 09, 2020 12:09 PM (aO8Gd)

Point of order, I believe the style guide should be changed to: "Stored in a bin where they roll around in it until it sticks to their sweaty, overheated bodies, Scrooge McDuck style " or some variation of the theme.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2020 12:23 PM (WyVLE)

55
Taxed @99% Bezos is still worth almost 4.3 billion.
Posted by: BignJames at August 09, 2020

Nearly destitute. He might have to get a second job.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...privilege this MoFo's at August 09, 2020 12:23 PM (pgQSC)

56 51 Would love to as Rich Lowry if Barky signing DACA concerned him, even just a teeny tiny bit.

Well that, and when Barky decided to shovel billions of dollars to health insurance companies to bail them out without Congressional authorization.

I didn't hear Leftists complaining about "the power of the purse" then.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 09, 2020 12:21 PM (I2/tG)

Fascists gotta fascist.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:23 PM (NWiLs)

57
Point of order, I believe the style guide should be changed to: "Stored in a bin where they roll around in it until it sticks to their sweaty, overheated bodies, Scrooge McDuck style " or some variation of the theme.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2020 12:23 PM (WyVLE)

Oooohhhh, Kyle's money.... Feels so gooooood....

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:23 PM (NWiLs)

58 Nearly destitute. He might have to get a second job.
Posted by: Sock Monkey

Alimony from his ex.

Posted by: Miklos, script flipped at August 09, 2020 12:24 PM (QzkSJ)

59 'Taxed @99% Bezos is still worth almost 4.3 billion. '

20% of that has to go to maintaining his boats.

Posted by: freaked at August 09, 2020 12:25 PM (Tnijr)

60 Lowry's a douche, but as rhomboid pointed out Trump's deadbeat renter protection and deadbeat student protection because ZOMG virus! EO is just flat-out counter to capitalism.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 09, 2020 12:19 PM (luzVb)

Too risky to call off the kung flu freakout general lockdown.
... if it saves even just one person life it justifies everyone staving and dying in poverty.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 09, 2020 12:25 PM (1g7ch)

61 the power of the purse

I dont care if she waddles like a duck
Or talks with a lisp

Posted by: getting the banned back together at August 09, 2020 12:25 PM (8QvcY)

62 Amusing thread. A teacher is worried about lockdowns. Parents and other undesirables might find out what they're actually teaching and that'd be bad.

https://bit.ly/3fMiPkZ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 09, 2020 12:25 PM (+y/Ru)

63 It's just a mask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sce49QexZio

Posted by: It's Just A Mask at August 09, 2020 12:26 PM (XGsBz)

64 Absent complete societal and governmental collapse, Title 26 and the related tax regs will never be undone. Ever.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:21 PM (NWiLs)

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Flat tax is just something for Republicans to vote on while a Democrat is in office, then.

2011 or so IIRC

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 12:27 PM (ganPu)

65 Too risky to call off the kung flu freakout general lockdown.

... if it saves even just one person life it justifies everyone staving and dying in poverty.

Posted by: Burnt Toast

It's amazing how a country that sent men to the moon in a tincan is now cowering in their homes to hide from the flu.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 09, 2020 12:27 PM (luzVb)

66 the power of the purse

The only time I have seen the "power of the purse" in politics was when Maggie Thatcher threatened to smack some weak-tits with hers.

Posted by: The Miklos is not for turning at August 09, 2020 12:28 PM (QzkSJ)

67 After seeing the masks come off our billionaire
class, I now know what they really are, if I only suspected before...
roll the the start date back to 1980, and give 100% of revenue to
charities promoting traditional marriage, gun rights, and the Hawaiian
shirt industry. Then, order the black marias to go collect these
fucksticks, and toss them into a metal shredder on live TV at Madison
Square Garden. Saddam-style, but with chorus girls and a laser show.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:16 PM (4s4Jc)

I like it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2020 12:28 PM (9Om/r)

68 Article somewhere had one of the teenager magazines was calling for abolishing personal property.

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OK, when you get invited to one of *those* football team parties, you have to get *noticed* if you want to play Chinese Fingercuffs with a couple of lettermen in a basement powder room.

I recommend this SUPER-cute Grid Crop-Cami from Chanel. But style points like that don't come cheap.

If you can't afford it, well... as always, I say "Kill that old pawnbroker to get the money. She has no friends. No one will miss her. You deserve it, gurl. YASS SLAY QUEEN!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:28 PM (Tm4zg)

69 64 Absent complete societal and governmental collapse, Title 26 and the related tax regs will never be undone. Ever.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:21 PM (NWiLs)

-

Flat tax is just something for Republicans to vote on while a Democrat is in office, then.

2011 or so IIRC
Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 12:27 PM (ganPu)

It's jerkoff posturing to fool the rubes, like repealing Obamacare. Could've been done very easily. Did they do it? Of course not.

I confess that I used to be one of those rubes. They kept me fooled for a good long time, longer than I'd like to admit.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:29 PM (NWiLs)

70 Flat tax is just something for Republicans to vote on while a Democrat is in office, then.

2011 or so IIRC
Posted by: Charles Darwin

Herman Cain will arise and return in the hour of greatest need.

Posted by: Miklosian Folksy Tales at August 09, 2020 12:30 PM (QzkSJ)

71 43 deplorable person

The Student Loan nightmare needs to be addressed. The loans are at around 7% and make it difficult to be repaid. When my daughter graduated from law school she knew several ppl w $200k in loans. I don't have a problem w the delayed payment, but a better answer would be to lower the interest rate. Unfortunately, the SL interest helps fund Obamacare, so no one wants to stop that cash cow.

Posted by: EveR at August 09, 2020 12:30 PM (ZZDMQ)

72 70 Flat tax is just something for Republicans to vote on while a Democrat is in office, then.

2011 or so IIRC
Posted by: Charles Darwin

Herman Cain will arise and return in the hour of greatest need.
Posted by: Miklosian Folksy Tales at August 09, 2020 12:30 PM (QzkSJ)

On the ninth hour of the ninth day of the ninth month...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:30 PM (NWiLs)

73 It's amazing how a country that sent men to the moon in a tincan is now cowering in their homes to hide from the flu.

It's a brave new world.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at August 09, 2020 12:31 PM (EgshT)

74 At least Bernie defines rich as Bezos money. Trump, yesterday defined rich as $100k.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:32 PM (wkJ52)

75 Pritzker, or JB the Hutt ran for governor that he was going to tax all the billionaires in Illinois their fare share to pay off the debts accrued over the years.

Now that he is gov, people figured out there aren't enough billionaires in Illinois to accomplish it.

So all the other taxes were raised instead.

Posted by: Bruce at August 09, 2020 12:33 PM (vd8XM)

76 why March 18th?

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 09, 2020 12:18 PM (rgWqH)

Bottom of the stock market.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2020 12:33 PM (xT2tT)

77 At least Bernie defines rich as Bezos money. Trump, yesterday defined rich as $100k.
Posted by: Asshoes

Dachas, of course, are exempt.

Posted by: Bernie's accountant Miklos at August 09, 2020 12:33 PM (QzkSJ)

78
Bottom of the stock market.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2020 12:33 PM

ah, right

thx

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 09, 2020 12:34 PM (rgWqH)

79 We need to expand the bill of rights to employment, so you can't be fired for things you say outside the workplace. So you can kneel on your own time.

Cancel Culture goes after what targets legally say or do outside their day job (often years past). Ironically, BLM says that favored groups can do whatever they want during their day jobs, even if it detracts from the value of what they're doing.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 09, 2020 12:34 PM (9TdxA)

80 At least Bernie defines rich as Bezos money. Trump, yesterday defined rich as $100k.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:32 PM (wkJ52)

$100k in assets?
Gross annual income?
In the couch cushions in the guest house?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 09, 2020 12:35 PM (1g7ch)

81
TBF to Cain, I think he actually meant it about the flat-tax thing, and the flat spending cuts.

Of course, look how he was treated by the Republican Party. Their reaction to him was identical to their reaction to Donald Trump, just much watered-down, as they succeeded in marginalizing him, and didn't have to crank it up to full NeverCain intensity.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:35 PM (Tm4zg)

82 71

If you walk into a bank as an 18 year old with no collateral and ask for a $300k loan at 7% what do you think happens? You are laughed out of the building.

7% given the high risk of default is actually pretty low.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:35 PM (wkJ52)

83 $100k in assets?
Gross annual income?
In the couch cushions in the guest house?
Posted by: Burnt Toast

Stockpiled TP and hand sanitizer

Posted by: Bruce at August 09, 2020 12:35 PM (vd8XM)

84 Risk of default is pretty HIGH that is.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:36 PM (wkJ52)

85 Anything coming out of Bernie's mouth is pure BS.

However, something has to be done to the Bezoasses of the world if they want to meddle like they do.

Fucking them in the ass works for me. And Bernie is just the man for the job.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 09, 2020 12:36 PM (Z+IKu)

86 'Trump, yesterday defined rich as $100k. '

All of us here are indeed rich. Well maybe not in $s.

Posted by: freaked at August 09, 2020 12:36 PM (Tnijr)

87 At least Bernie defines rich as Bezos money. Trump, yesterday defined rich as $100k.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:32 PM (wkJ52)

-

I know more than a few people who are required to pay an extra $10K or so in taxes every year when they have to work OT and earn an extra $1000.

In a nation where the median household income is $62K, the big jump for the "wealthy" tax rate increase should be a lot higher than $80K ($40K for an individual)

*spit*

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 12:37 PM (ganPu)

88
A lot of Billionaires claim they don't pay enough but nothing stops them from cutting a few million check to the IRS, so it's all BS showmanship.
Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2020 12:06 PM (OjZpE)

They don't even have to do that. They just need to avoid taking every deduction they are entitled to on their taxes. And with a simpler tax return, they'd spend a lot less on accountants, so they'd make up at least some of the additional taxes paid.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2020 12:37 PM (LoXTY)

89
Asshoe, when you accept taking Bezo's level of money, you know, as a type of retribution justified by him being too rich and too privileged and you are jealous of what he has, you justify taking anyone's money.
Yours for example, or even not providing you with a tax holiday because you make less than the ceiling. You have justified what you hate, congratulations.

Think on that if you can.

If you can't, practice.

If you can't even do that, continue to exist as a sort of economic sea-cucumber filtering Populist ideals out of media to power your outrage and sense of being discriminated against to justify your inaction on anything, "since they always got to keep a good [non-cisgenendered individual] down!!!"

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2020 12:37 PM (WyVLE)

90 It is obvious inflation is the only we get out of the debt mess. Buy hard assets, land and stocks and ride the inflation wave. Dont own cash.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:38 PM (wkJ52)

91 Jeff Bezos...and all those other billionaires....will be allowed ONE KIND OF DEODORANT

Posted by: Bernie Sandersnista at August 09, 2020 12:38 PM (QzkSJ)

92 Taxed @99% Bezos is still worth almost 4.3 billion.

Posted by: BignJames at August 09, 2020

Make it hurt him enough so he gives up The Daily Worker/WaPo

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2020 12:39 PM (NLgA+)

93 I dont know what the definition of rich should be. But $100k a year sure as fuck is not it.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:39 PM (wkJ52)

94 A trillion dollars is a lot of haircut, even for Bernie.

Posted by: DaveA at August 09, 2020 12:39 PM (FhXTo)

95 "The only way Bezos calls off his attack dogs at the Washington Post is if he thinks the mob is coming for him."

Bezos runs WaPo to be extreme Left to buy indulgences for Amazon having some of the worst labor practices in America.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 09, 2020 12:39 PM (9TdxA)

96 Pritzker, or JB the Hutt ran for governor that he
was going to tax all the billionaires in Illinois their fare share to
pay off the debts accrued over the years.

Now that he is gov, people figured out there aren't enough billionaires in Illinois to accomplish it.

So all the other taxes were raised instead.

Posted by: Bruce at August 09, 2020 12:33 PM (vd8XM)

And we still have his "progressive" income tax to look forward to. I know the idiots in this state will vote for it and if they don't they'll find the votes for it any way

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2020 12:40 PM (NLgA+)

97
I recommend confiscation of wealth from people like Bezos, not because I resent their wealth, but because of their political activities. It's a subtle but important distinction.

I think of it more as a letter of marque and reprisal. Let the land-privateers of the Horde sort them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:40 PM (Tm4zg)

98 Can't we just pants them, put them in stocks, and send them to Mars?

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2020 12:41 PM (M/9m0)

99 Anyone who votes democratic should be taxed at an 99% level and at least 50% of their accumulated wealth should be siezed...for the good of the cause.

Fuck that cock wallace at faux news also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2020 12:41 PM (85Gof)

100 Bernie likes to follow the Marxist explaination its those evil filthy rich who took the world's wealth, Trump is showing its a lot further down the ladder who are paying this freight bill.

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2020 12:41 PM (OjZpE)

101 Bezos runs WaPo to be extreme Left to buy indulgences for Amazon having some of the worst labor practices in America.
Posted by: Ignoramus

"So look for the Union Label, when you are buying from Amazon Prime.."

Posted by: International Ladies' Garment Workers and Etc. Union at August 09, 2020 12:41 PM (QzkSJ)

102 89

Da fuq you talking about? You realize Trump raised taxes on those making $100k more more yesterday right? But Trump can do no wrong so yeay Republicans!!! Fuck that. If I am made to pay then yeah I want Bezos to pay through the nose too.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:41 PM (wkJ52)

103 98 Can't we just pants them, put them in stocks, and send them to Mars?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2020 12:41 PM (M/9m0)

Bonds have greater stability long-term.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:42 PM (NWiLs)

104 How much does Obama owe, he had a 93 million payday for his book yet to be written, not counting his Netflix deal, Moochele's book deal. The Clintons still have some in the Clinton foundation.

How about you Bernie? You got a home and some cash out of the 16 run, not to mention your wife's dealing with a bankrupt university now.

Oh my fault, you only have 999,999,999.99 $ and the tax is the Billionaires Tax. Good Job

Posted by: Picric at August 09, 2020 12:43 PM (2cbKf)

105 You realize Trump raised taxes on those making $100k more more yesterday right?

Yeah? And how did he do that pray tell?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2020 12:43 PM (85Gof)

106 I think of it more as a letter of marque and reprisal. Let the land-privateers of the Horde sort them.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

"Uncle Palp says you have to dig THIS MUCH"

Posted by: Merciful Miklos at August 09, 2020 12:43 PM (QzkSJ)

107 106 I think of it more as a letter of marque and reprisal. Let the land-privateers of the Horde sort them.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

"Uncle Palp says you have to dig THIS MUCH"
Posted by: Merciful Miklos at August 09, 2020 12:43 PM (QzkSJ)

Ah yes, the Great North American Dignity Canal.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:44 PM (NWiLs)

108 "The only way Bezos calls off his attack dogs at the Washington Post is if he thinks the mob is coming for him."

Bezos runs WaPo to be extreme Left to buy indulgences for Amazon having some of the worst labor practices in America.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 09, 2020 12:39 PM (9TdxA)

And yet they still showed up at his house with a guillotine

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2020 12:44 PM (NLgA+)

109 I have no issue with taxing Bezos at 90% of income past a certain threshold. Say $50m. But a wealth tax is retarded on many levels, starting with the fact it is impossible to accurately calculate someones wealth.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:44 PM (wkJ52)

110 Give'em hell, CBD.

The tax is fun but Sanders' stealing the take for government and his medical establishment friends is criminal.

Simple divide the total collected by legal citizens and distribute ALL of the money. "For the people." "For the children."

Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 12:44 PM (BRkq2)

111 It's just a mask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sce49QexZio

Posted by: It's Just A Mask at August 09, 2020 12:26 PM (XGsBz)
Outstanding. Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 09, 2020 12:45 PM (luzVb)

112 Well I don't know everything musk does with his money, but he seems to be at least trying to drag earth into being a type 1 planetary civilization. Bezos is just an asshole who as far as I can tell contributes nothing to society. Maybe the ancient tax policy is best. The rich benevolent are left alone, the evil ones get hunted with weapons. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2020 12:45 PM (9Om/r)

113 105

Everyone under $100k got a 7.65% tax cut. Everyone making $1 more got nothing. $100k is rich according to the GOP as of today.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:45 PM (wkJ52)

114 97
I recommend confiscation of wealth from people like Bezos, not because I resent their wealth, but because of their political activities. It's a subtle but important distinction.....
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:40 PM (Tm4zg)
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Yep.
Our forefathers seized the property of British loyalists, not to establish "equality," but to make sure they had no ability to fund treason against the new republic.

(And the gains were used mainly to pay down debt.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (M/9m0)

115 Asshoe, when you accept taking Bezo's level of
money, you know, as a type of retribution justified by him being too
rich and too privileged and you are jealous of what he has, you justify
taking anyone's money.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2020 12:37 PM (WyVLE)

---You know what? I'm sick of letting the left threaten confiscatory taxes against leftist billionaires who expect the right to protect them while they do everything in their power to destroy us.

Screw it.

Hey Silicone Valley - you want socialism? You're first.

Let Bezos instruct the WaPo to start singing the virtues of capitalism if he's worried. I'm flat out of fvcks.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (cfSRQ)

116 Bernie was after the millionaires; until he became one.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (L9P9s)

117 110 Give'em hell, CBD.

The tax is fun but Sanders' stealing the take for government and his medical establishment friends is criminal.

Simple divide the total collected by legal citizens and distribute ALL of the money. "For the people." "For the children."
Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 12:44 PM (BRkq2)

Yeah! Take a billion from Bezos and give each American, uh, about $2.86!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (NWiLs)

118 starting with the fact it is impossible to accurately calculate someones wealth.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:44 PM (wkJ52)

Abolishing all non-profit status would be a start. It's a cesspool of graft, bribes, whoredom, moneylaundering, vomit-worthy speechifying, and tax evasion.

Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (BRkq2)

119
Simple divide the total collected by legal citizens and distribute ALL of the money. "For the people." "For the children."
Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 12:44 PM (BRkq2)

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See, I prefer using it to found and fund NGOs for causes the Communists would hate. No redistribution on basis of need, but of spite. Maybe some palettes of cash flown to Duarte and Orban in the middle of the night, for good measure.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (Tm4zg)

120 Everyone under $100k got a 7.65% tax cut. Everyone making $1 more got nothing. $100k is rich according to the GOP as of today.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:45 PM (wkJ52)

Yeah that's bullshit. that must be asshoe logic

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (85Gof)

121 I have no issue with taxing Bezos at 90% of income past a certain threshold. Say $50m. But a wealth tax is retarded on many levels, starting with the fact it is impossible to accurately calculate someones wealth.

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10% from everyone on any income, from welfare recipients to teachers to retired people to Amazon and Apple. No deductions, no exemptions, no automatic deductions.

Everyone from La'Kaneesha to Bezos sends a check every April.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (ganPu)

122 Crazy Uncle Bernie is a co-signer of this enormouslynitwit stupid bill. Some other nitwit thunk it up.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at August 09, 2020 12:47 PM (iiT9X)

123 118

This is about us right?
-Clinton Foundation

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:47 PM (wkJ52)

124 And no non-profits.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 12:47 PM (ganPu)

125 Orban in the middle of the night, for good measure.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Orban is the richest man in Hungary.

He's fine.

Posted by: Miklos, not really a fan at August 09, 2020 12:48 PM (QzkSJ)

126 114 97
I recommend confiscation of wealth from people like Bezos, not because I resent their wealth, but because of their political activities. It's a subtle but important distinction.....
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:40 PM (Tm4zg)
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Yep.
Our forefathers seized the property of British loyalists, not to establish "equality," but to make sure they had no ability to fund treason against the new republic.

(And the gains were used mainly to pay down debt.)

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (M/9m0)

That really is the thing, isn't it? The billionaires, especially the tech billionaires, are using their wealth to fund treason. Thing is, though, a great deal of the government establishment is in on it too.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:48 PM (NWiLs)

127 Yeah! Take a billion from Bezos and give each American, uh, about $2.86!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (NWiLs)

You oppose education?

Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (BRkq2)

128 While we're on the subject, the "free market" carries with it an implicit assumption that those with the most money have the greatest obligations to sustain the state.

Look at history - whenever the super-rich turn their back on society or the state, collapse ensues.

Old-time rich guys knew this, and didn't do stupid tax-shelter charities which are really political lobbying, they built real things: hospitals, schools, libraries.

These guys actually are vultures, feasting off the jobs they export and then selling the displaced workers discount opioids bought with money the government borrowed from them.

I'm not lifting a finger to defense these people. They created the beast that's eating them. They can put it down themselves.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (cfSRQ)

129 The country has been spending money like a teenager with a credit card they are not paying for.
Someone is going to pay for it eventually.

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (OjZpE)

130 Everyone from La'Kaneesha to Bezos sends a check every April.
Posted by: Charles Darwin

Nov. 1st

Posted by: Miklosian Logic LLC at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (QzkSJ)

131 127 Yeah! Take a billion from Bezos and give each American, uh, about $2.86!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (NWiLs)

You oppose education?
Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (BRkq2)

Define "education."

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (NWiLs)

132 120

Payroll tax cut is capped at $100k. Call it bullshit if you want it is in the EO.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (wkJ52)

133 Amusing thread. A teacher is worried about lockdowns. Parents and other undesirables might find out what they're actually teaching and that'd be bad.

Makes it clear who they think the enemy is.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (oVJmc)

134 Taxed @99% Bezos is still worth almost 4.3 billion.

Posted by: BignJames

Bezos is rich, but not quite that rich. Your math's a bit off. Bezos is worth $189B, not $430B. Your conclusion is spot on, though.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2020 12:50 PM (v16oJ)

135
Orban is the richest man in Hungary.

He's fine.
Posted by: Miklos, not really a fan at August 09, 2020 12:48 PM (QzkSJ)

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Oh, sure. He's a corrupt pisant, and so is Duarte. But they're both hated by the American Left for goring their particular global oxes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:50 PM (Tm4zg)

136 Nov. 1st

Posted by: Miklosian Logic LLC at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (QzkSJ)

-

MIKLOS / YUDHISHTHIRA'S DICE 2024

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 12:51 PM (ganPu)

137
Someone PLEASE tell me Stan Kronky's NFL shrine out there in Lost Angles is going to be a financial bloodbath for that pig, as well as the other pig owners.
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Let's see:
0 ticket sales
0 concessions sales
0 concessions jobs
0 hotel rooms rented
0 etc., etc.

Oh, I'm sure it's fantastic for everyone

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 09, 2020 12:51 PM (aO8Gd)

138 Get those taxes rolling! These chickens aren't gonna just pluck themselves!

Posted by: Colonel Bernie Sanders, Extra Crispy at August 09, 2020 12:51 PM (EgshT)

139 But you know I have to give Bernie credit for actually proposing this in an election year. Took some actual stones to do this. That or a lack of brain.

And like a t-shirt I had is high school. "No Brains, No Headaches Frontal Lobotomies for everyone."

Posted by: Picric at August 09, 2020 12:51 PM (2cbKf)

140 Yahoo News says Trumps signing of his executive order is a nightmare...All news from Yahoo has Trump a disaster, no matter what he does.

Now Biden's administration will be a dream come true...I added that..

Posted by: Colin at August 09, 2020 12:51 PM (gws6j)

141 Bezos must be protected at all costs cuz muhCapitalism and FreeMarkets!! But someone earning $250k a year getting taxed up the ass....bend over and take it, no payroll tax cut for you.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:52 PM (wkJ52)

142
Dueterte I mean. I always do that. It's a mental tic.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:52 PM (Tm4zg)

143 Payroll tax cut is capped at $100k. Call it bullshit if you want it is in the EO.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (wkJ52)

So? You said it was a tax increase? Either your math or your english comprehension stinks. And you obviously have no idea of the real problem with that particular EO. Go away please

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2020 12:52 PM (85Gof)

144 We really, really need to do something about foundations.
These billionaires stuff their bucks in their own tax-exempt fiefdoms while whining about OUR taxes being too low and demanding bigger and bigger government.

And if you were to ask them why they don't just hand their billions over to the treasury, they can't answer. Or rather, WON'T.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2020 12:52 PM (M/9m0)

145
So? You said it was a tax increase? Either your
math or your english comprehension stinks. And you obviously have no
idea of the real problem with that particular EO. Go away please

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2020 12:52 PM (85Gof)

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This guy must hate the Earned Income Tax Credit.

Which was a lifesafer for our family when we were poor.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 12:53 PM (cfSRQ)

146 The problem is it is more welfare financed through more money printing. But Trump did it so its brilliant. Am I close?

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:54 PM (wkJ52)

147 Lowry's a douche, but as rhomboid pointed out Trump's deadbeat renter protection and deadbeat student protection because ZOMG virus! EO is just flat-out counter to capitalism.
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So were all the shutdown and lock down orders but I don't recall you shit-sippers at NRO leading the fight against them

But I do know for damned sure your shity little screed was at the forefront of "OMG!! Were all going to die!"

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 09, 2020 12:54 PM (aO8Gd)

148 Rockefeller gave away more money than Carnegie, but IMHO, Carnegie had the better attitude about it. IIRC, he thought it was a sin to die rich. I don't necessarily endorse that attitude, but I applaud what he did for the country and its people.

Posted by: pep at August 09, 2020 12:54 PM (v16oJ)

149 This guy must hate the Earned Income Tax Credit.

Which was a lifesafer for our family when we were poor.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 12:53 PM (cfSRQ)

Were there no prisons? Were there no workhouses?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:54 PM (NWiLs)

150 Let's see:
0 ticket sales
0 concessions sales
0 concessions jobs
0 hotel rooms rented
0 etc., etc.

Oh, I'm sure it's fantastic for everyone
Posted by: RoyalOil

---

In some fashion, I'm sure he'll demand the City of LA bail him out.

And they will.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 09, 2020 12:54 PM (Rvt88)

151 131 127 Yeah! Take a billion from Bezos and give each American, uh, about $2.86!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (NWiLs)

You oppose education?
Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (BRkq2)

Define "education."
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (NWiLs)
===

Explaining their own professed principles to shitheads like Bezos and Gates.

Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 12:54 PM (BRkq2)

152 If you like your Amazon Prime, you can keep your Amazon Prime.

Posted by: Baracky O'Cracky at August 09, 2020 12:55 PM (EgshT)

153 145

I do hate the eitc you are correct. I hate all welfare.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:55 PM (wkJ52)

154 We really, really need to do something about foundations.

These billionaires stuff their bucks in their own tax-exempt
fiefdoms while whining about OUR taxes being too low and demanding
bigger and bigger government.

And if you were to ask them why they don't just hand their billions over to the treasury, they can't answer. Or rather, WON'T.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2020 12:52 PM (M/9m0)

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The problem is that the left likes to play games with what counts as a charity.

Corporate tax law is one huge racket.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 12:55 PM (cfSRQ)

155 I'd settle for returning to an intelligent and scientific approach to public health, and thereby ending this catastrophic debacle that has in fact been yet another blow to the real middle class (non-govt. workers) and a boon to the top 1%.

But that's about as likely as Bernie's confiscatory fantasy.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 09, 2020 12:55 PM (OTzUX)

156 Our combined gross income is 100k and thats barely enough for the hood in Queens. Everybody in NYC has a cash scam. Deblasio tried to go cashless but the POC said no

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 09, 2020 12:56 PM (4vNgL)

157 Da fuq you talking about? You realize Trump raised
taxes on those making $100k more more yesterday right? But Trump can do
no wrong so yeay Republicans!!! Fuck that. If I am made to pay then yeah
I want Bezos to pay through the nose too.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:41 PM (wkJ52)

stoke that outrage, child, stoke it to a towering pyre of hate. In the shadows that it casts you can hide the fact that you are no worse off, and your basis for outrage is that people who make less than you are temporarily taxed less than you are, should they ever be allowed to go back to work.

That fire is your future and your destiny, and it can devour the world. And you know what is special about it? You have to do nothing but stomp your little feet and ball your hands into fists and scream how you are hurt and insulted, and must be made whole again.

Some people will sell their souls for the world. You have lower sights of course, 7.65% of gross wages. But it can be made a justification for anything if you decide it is enough to act. Or not act. Whatever.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2020 12:56 PM (WyVLE)

158 Define "education."
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (NWiLs)

I think the same thing should be done with the Department of Education's annual budget. Just disperse it at large and close the department.

Let the dems fight that.

Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 12:57 PM (BRkq2)

159 Were there no prisons? Were there no workhouses?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo

I have a modest proposal.

Posted by: Jonathan Swift at August 09, 2020 12:57 PM (v16oJ)

160 151 131 127 Yeah! Take a billion from Bezos and give each American, uh, about $2.86!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:46 PM (NWiLs)

You oppose education?
Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (BRkq2)

Define "education."
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:49 PM (NWiLs)
===

Explaining their own professed principles to shitheads like Bezos and Gates.
Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 12:54 PM (BRkq2)

That would be a complete waste of time, don't you think? Especially since they have no principles other than will to power.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:57 PM (NWiLs)

161 When Dems and Reps are both on board with a UBI, which is what this UE forever really is, the game is over. We no longer debate whether to have a massive welfare state where working is optional, we are only now debating how much the check will be.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:57 PM (wkJ52)

162 Hey asshoe when you reference just numbers, no one knows who or what you are responding to...another reason to take your head out of your ass.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2020 12:57 PM (85Gof)

163 Bernie's confiscatory fantasy.
Posted by: rhomboid

That sounds like the title of one of Bernie's early attempts at creative writing.

Posted by: Miklos, published author and not no pr0n, neither at August 09, 2020 12:58 PM (QzkSJ)

164
Here's the thing about Trump.

I routinely disagree with the guy - these stimulus packages being a key example. Pure insanity from a reckless spendthrift, if you ask me.

But I don't really question his motives. Some of it is certainly politically motivated election-year crap. But I DO believe the guy wants to help Americans, and it's not some fig-leaf for the globo-commie agenda like I get from everyone else.

To the point that motives matter, anyway, I think it's important.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 12:58 PM (Tm4zg)

165 I do hate the eitc you are correct. I hate all welfare.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:55 PM (wkJ52)

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Just to be clear, your stated positions are:

No more welfare of any kind.

People who've lost income and can't pay rent because of lockdowns need to be evicted.

Student loans must be paid promptly and in full regardless of the ability to pay.

Trump is terrible because his targeted tax relief doesn't extend to people earning more than $100,000 per year.

Did I get all that correct?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 12:59 PM (cfSRQ)

166 163 Bernie's confiscatory fantasy.
Posted by: rhomboid

That sounds like the title of one of Bernie's early attempts at creative writing.
Posted by: Miklos, published author and not no pr0n, neither at August 09, 2020 12:58 PM (QzkSJ)

Common fantasy among women. One the divorce laws let them make a reality.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 12:59 PM (NWiLs)

167 Nope. Not going to fall for Marxism lite. I begrudge no one their wealth. They earned it, they can keep it. I would however be fully behind breaking up their monopolies.

If they would have played fair, I'd even say keep the monopolies. But they're leftists. And leftists want to destroy this wonderful country. So, fuck 'em. Break them up.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 09, 2020 12:59 PM (Fs5vw)

168 165 I do hate the eitc you are correct. I hate all welfare.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:55 PM (wkJ52)

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Just to be clear, your stated positions are:

No more welfare of any kind.

People who've lost income and can't pay rent because of lockdowns need to be evicted.

Student loans must be paid promptly and in full regardless of the ability to pay.

Trump is terrible because his targeted tax relief doesn't extend to people earning more than $100,000 per year.

Did I get all that correct?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 12:59 PM (cfSRQ)

I could say 5 words that would have all of this make sense.

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2020 01:00 PM (vMCab)

169 157

Be honest. Had Obama signed the exact same EO would you be happy with it?

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 01:00 PM (wkJ52)

170 155 I'd settle for returning to an intelligent and scientific approach to public health, and thereby ending this catastrophic debacle that has in fact been yet another blow to the real middle class (non-govt. workers) and a boon to the top 1%.

But that's about as likely as Bernie's confiscatory fantasy.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 09, 2020 12:55 PM (OTzUX)

Less likely.

Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 01:00 PM (BRkq2)

171 Something tells me it won't take 6 years or so for the Roberts to say Trump can't do this, even though the clock is still running on Obama's illegal EO amnesty orders.

Posted by: Blago at August 09, 2020 01:00 PM (gkdnV)

172 Government would have to accept payment in the form of stocks/bonds/realEstate, or it would crash those markets, since the billionaires would have to sell it all to make the payments.

But government is now buying bad debt and on the verge of buying stocks to "support the markets", so ... what do they call it, when government owns the means of production? Communism?

Posted by: illiniwek at August 09, 2020 01:00 PM (Cus5s)

173 I'm waiting for Nancy and Chuck to tell me what is right or wrong. I'm sure we will hear plenty in the next week.

Posted by: Colin at August 09, 2020 01:00 PM (gws6j)

174 I could say 5 words that would have all of this make sense.
Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2020 01:00 PM (vMCab)

*nods knowingly*

John has a long mustache.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 01:01 PM (NWiLs)

175 Who is this Duarte?

Sounds like one of the Musketeers.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 09, 2020 01:01 PM (1g7ch)

176 Trump is terrible because his targeted tax relief doesn't extend to people earning more than $100,000 per year.

Did I get all that correct?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 12:59 PM (cfSRQ)

Of course that is even not correct, because if those people who earn over $100,000 own companies and pay employees, they are in line to save money...but the whole kicker with that payroll tax reduction is whether it is just postponed or actually a true holiday? That is not clear as I read it, and might be contingent on a further EO?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2020 01:01 PM (85Gof)

177 I could say 5 words that would have all of this make sense.
Posted by: buzzion

LOLGF?

Posted by: Miklos, guessing again at August 09, 2020 01:02 PM (QzkSJ)

178 If employees near the cutoff for the 12% bracket get that 7% tax cut/raise and it bumps them up into the next tax bracket, a bunch of unaware people are going to be in the 22% rate come tax time, right?

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 01:02 PM (ganPu)

179 Does asshoe think we all have prison numbers here?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2020 01:02 PM (85Gof)

180 Aristophanes. Aristophanes. Aristophanes.

Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 01:02 PM (BRkq2)

181 The problem is it is more welfare financed through more money printing. But Trump did it so its brilliant. Am I close?
Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:54 PM (wkJ52)

Ummmmmmm.....No.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 09, 2020 01:02 PM (Z+IKu)

182 The problem I have with "tax the rich" is that the idea is merely an extortion technique for the Left. They institute these crazy taxes and rich people know that if they do favors for the right people, exemptions will be carved out for them so they don't suffer the consequences. The people who do suffer are those who lack connections and can't get the carve-outs.

Plus, the tax expenses are passed along to the little people in the form of higher prices for goods and services.

Posted by: Emmie at August 09, 2020 01:03 PM (4JM5Y)

183 Nope. Not going to fall for Marxism lite. I
begrudge no one their wealth. They earned it, they can keep it. I
would however be fully behind breaking up their monopolies.

If they would have played fair, I'd even say keep the monopolies.
But they're leftists. And leftists want to destroy this wonderful
country. So, fuck 'em. Break them up.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 09, 2020 12:59 PM (Fs5vw)

Pretty much this.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2020 01:03 PM (9Om/r)

184 At least Musk does something productive for his country and the world with some of his dough.

I wouldn't tax him as hard as Bezos and Gates.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 09, 2020 01:03 PM (FtO5h)

185 I get that if one takes the extraordinary steps that were taken (in March), extraordinary compensation efforts are appropriate. And it's early, but they seem to have been effective at cushioning the blow for many.

I just think the extraordinary steps (a radical experiment) were clearly failed/revealed to be unnecessary months ago, the IFR of this bug is simply not apocalyptic, and continuing to underwrite the economic/social disaster that ensued as opposed to *ending* it is a very poor strategery.

And as for the mechanics - EO, etc - it's hard to pretend to continue to think that much of our system really remains by this point - the formal, or informal, parts. Separate issue.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 09, 2020 01:03 PM (OTzUX)

186 I didnt say Trump is terrible, this EO is terrible. And yes, no welfare of any kind. Which I realize that ship sailed long ago, but a guy can dream.

And since when is paying back loans some kind of hardship? Give me a fucking break dude. A rental agreement is a binding contract. You pay rent or you leave. I dont give a fuck about your personal problems as a landlord. This is crazy 2019 thinking, I know.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 01:03 PM (wkJ52)

187
I could say 5 words that would have all of this make sense.

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2020 01:00 PM

*nods knowingly*

John has a long mustache.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 01:01 PM

chair's against the wall, yo

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 09, 2020 01:03 PM (rgWqH)

188 It's Moo Moo/Lurking Lurker.

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2020 01:03 PM (vMCab)

189 But I don't really question his motives. Some of it is certainly politically motivated election-year crap. But I DO believe the guy wants to help Americans, and it's not some fig-leaf for the globo-commie agenda like I get from everyone else.

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It's been very refreshing to remember what it's like to have a president who truly loves America and his fellow Americans.

It's been decades, sadly.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 01:03 PM (ganPu)

190
Who is this Duarte?

Sounds like one of the Musketeers.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 09, 2020 01:01 PM (1g7ch

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I know... I've been mangling the lunatic's name for five years. I always call him Duarte for some damn reason.

But he is at least a fun, colorful, mendacious third-world lunatic. And his hit squads ride dirtbikes. It's *almost* colander facemask stuff.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 01:03 PM (Tm4zg)

191 LOLGF?

Ha! I counted that on my fingers and that is indeed five words!

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at August 09, 2020 01:04 PM (EgshT)

192 Who you gonna call? Trust busters!

Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 01:04 PM (BRkq2)

193 They institute these crazy taxes and rich people know that if they do favors for the right people, exemptions will be carved out for them so they don't suffer the consequences

The Federal Tax Code is 90,000+ pages for a reason.

Well, a whole lot of reasons.

Posted by: Miklos, 1040 A-OKAY! at August 09, 2020 01:04 PM (QzkSJ)

194 Be honest. Had Obama signed the exact same EO would you be happy with it?

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 01:00 PM (wkJ52)

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I'd be pissed because it is smart politics.

I'd also expect the NR types to moan just like you and argue that *not* giving higher earners a tax cut designed to help the poor is an outrage of the highest order.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 01:04 PM (cfSRQ)

195 Would you tax me? I'd tax me. I'd tax me so hard. I'd tax me so hard.

Posted by: Warren Gumb at August 09, 2020 01:04 PM (NWiLs)

196 178

No. Income tax rates are independent of fica taxes. This will have no effect on which marginal federal tax bracket youre in.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 01:05 PM (wkJ52)

197 So I see Sasse is kissing left ass again

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 09, 2020 01:05 PM (85Gof)

198 From a rational public policy perspective, it is stupendously, catastrophically, wildly counter-productive. And as tax policy it is even worse.

To say the least.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2020 01:06 PM (yQpMk)

199 No. Income tax rates are independent of fica taxes. This will have no effect on which marginal federal tax bracket youre in.

-

Thanks.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 01:06 PM (ganPu)

200 The long game is, now it comes down to a choice for Americans. An offer nobody can refuse. Elect Trump and get the tax waived. Or elect Biden and automatically owe thousands in back taxes. And its worth shutting down to get it. Americans will cheer a shutdown standoff over that.

Posted by: Menack at August 09, 2020 01:06 PM (buTO7)

201 I routinely disagree with the guy - these stimulus packages being a key
example. Pure insanity from a reckless spendthrift, if you ask me.

But I don't really question his motives. Some of it is certainly
politically motivated election-year crap. But I DO believe the guy wants
to help Americans, and it's not some fig-leaf for the globo-commie
agenda like I get from everyone else.

Exactly where I am. Totally agree. I understand there are often no good solutions but just less bad ones.

But I am getting sick of all this "wheels within wheels" shit, especially having to "just understand" that my inalienable rights are being alienated as fuck "because horrible, terrible, <insert emergency here>."

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 09, 2020 01:06 PM (luzVb)

202
And since when is paying back loans some kind of hardship? Give me a fucking break dude. A rental agreement is a binding contract. You pay rent or you leave. I dont give a fuck about your personal problems as a landlord.

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I tend to agree, but there's a caveat here, and a big one.

In no other loan agreement in the US, does the government provide the lender protection from bankruptcy-filings by borrowers.

That was a special cutout for the student-loan mill, an obscene gift from GWB to his banker palz. If every single student were permitted to simply default and walk away it would serve these people right.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 01:06 PM (Tm4zg)

203 Pull my finger.

Posted by: The Invisible Hand at August 09, 2020 01:06 PM (yQpMk)

204 I doubt there's any such thing as a one-time tax. For that reason I respectfully disagree with the OP's premise.
There is no depth to which the political class won't sink. Remember when the Reagan-era deficits were going to _force_ Congress to finally rein in domestic spending?

Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Zap Rowsdower at August 09, 2020 01:07 PM (cUpB1)

205 153
I do hate the eitc you are correct. I hate all welfare.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 12:55 PM (wkJ52)
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To the extent that the EITC actually IS a tax credit, that it lowers income tax. I'm all for it.
But of course, it very often is just a hand-out, as you say.

I do prefer it to most forms of welfare in that it only helps those who are actually working.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2020 01:07 PM (M/9m0)

206 "You pay rent or you leave. I dont give a fuck about your personal problems as a landlord. This is crazy 2019 thinking, I know."

Gee Asshoes I wonder what's different this year? Governors using their powers to destroy jobs and limit our economy or something maybe?

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2020 01:07 PM (4thlk)

207 The Federal Tax Code is 90,000+ pages for a reason.

Well, a whole lot of reasons.
Posted by: Miklos, 1040 A-OKAY! at August 09, 2020 01:04 PM (QzkSJ)

Exactly.

Posted by: Emmie at August 09, 2020 01:08 PM (4JM5Y)

208 If you didn't tax the non-profits, it wouldn't matter anyway; they'd just donate it to their own Clinton Foundation.

Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 01:08 PM (BRkq2)

209 194

Ok so you admit that per the EO $99,999 is considered poor but $100,001 is rich. That was my point. It is retarded. And you dont have to be an NR type to realize this.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 01:08 PM (wkJ52)

210 If they would have played fair, I'd even say keep the monopolies.

But they're leftists. And leftists want to destroy this wonderful

country. So, fuck 'em. Break them up.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 09, 2020 12:59 PM (Fs5vw)

Pretty much this.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2020 01:03 PM (9Om/r)

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Aggressive anti-trust action is the best course of action, no question.

You only get these plutocrats when they have a stranglehold on the marketplace. Stop that from happening, and the problem largely goes away.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 01:08 PM (cfSRQ)

211 That was a special cutout for the student-loan mill, an obscene gift from GWB to his banker palz. If every single student were permitted to simply default and walk away it would serve these people right.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

That pre-dates GWB.

And since Barry-O federalized student loans, the losers in the defaults would be....

Posted by: Miklos, even I can't make up shit like this at August 09, 2020 01:09 PM (QzkSJ)

212 While we are at it, can we tag all the college endowments over $1 billion in assets with the same 60% tax, to be used for student loan relief? And then get gubmint out of that business forever?

Yes, I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 09, 2020 01:09 PM (XF4b8)

213 I am open to the argument that there is a point at which someone can have too much money in a Republic. I don't know where that line is but when you have more money than entire countries the temptation to corruption is irresistible.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2020 01:09 PM (yQpMk)

214 All of this talk of maths and tax codes is very confusing.

Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (EgshT)

215 I second Y's Dice observation.

Trump clearly is what he is, he's as authentic and ingenuous a pro-growth, pro-prosperity guy as has probably ever lived in the WH. He wants the country, and everyone in it, to prosper. (this is not to say other and even some recent presidents didn't also want this - but in some cases they had a poor understanding of the process)

The bad faith and irresponsibility of the Dems (and many GOP), just generally but also in this situation, of course are breath-taking, and depressing. And Trump is probably doing the best broken-field running he can see working at the moment.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (OTzUX)

216 By enabling such a tax, even a one time affair, that has set the stage for the confiscation of ALL 401k's and any other form of retirement funds.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (KATBx)

217 Ok so you admit that per the EO $99,999 is
considered poor but $100,001 is rich. That was my point. It is retarded.
And you dont have to be an NR type to realize this.

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 01:08 PM (wkJ52)

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Yes, you do, because NR types don't have to be reelected - they just type what their billionaire backers tell them to, regardless of how tone-deaf and self-defeating it sounds.

Which makes me wonder why you are doing it?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (cfSRQ)

218 That was a special cutout for the student-loan mill, an obscene gift from GWB to his banker palz. If every single student were permitted to simply default and walk away it would serve these people right.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 01:06 PM (Tm4zg)

That's the thing, isn't it? There's so much government fuckery involved in student and housing loans that I really wouldn't give a shit. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (NWiLs)

219 Why do we pay taxes at all?

The feds just borrow what they want anyways.

It's all smoke and mirrors and horseshit.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (Z+IKu)

220 206

Gee lowandslow I wonder if landlords still have to pay property tax, mortgage and maintenance?????

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (wkJ52)

221 5 words again:

It's Moo Moo/Lurking Lurker

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2020 01:11 PM (vMCab)

222
That pre-dates GWB.

And since Barry-O federalized student loans, the losers in the defaults would be....
Posted by: Miklos, even I can't make up shit like this at August 09, 2020 01:09 PM (QzkSJ)

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Was it BJ? Maybe memory fails me. I thought GWB made the rule that you may not default on a student loan.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 01:11 PM (Tm4zg)

223 I am open to the argument that there is a point at which someone can have too much money in a Republic. I don't know where that line is but when you have more money than entire countries the temptation to corruption is irresistible.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2020 01:09 PM (yQpMk)

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I think that's my hangup with the whole thing. I don't care how much or how little money someone has, only that we all have the same amount of sacrifice for the nation we live in and have an equal vote to direct. I want *everyone* to pay the same. I'm very fair that way.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 01:11 PM (ganPu)

224 By enabling such a tax, even a one time affair, that has set the stage for the confiscation of ALL 401k's and any other form of retirement funds.
Posted by: irongrampa

They did that in Hungary.

That Orban guy.

Posted by: Miklos, holding no forint-based assets at August 09, 2020 01:12 PM (QzkSJ)

225 219 Why do we pay taxes at all?

The feds just borrow what they want anyways.

It's all smoke and mirrors and horseshit.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (Z+IKu)

It's to keep us proles in line.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 01:12 PM (NWiLs)

226 Some people need to learn the difference between wealth and money, liquid and illiquid, real and paper/fiat.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 09, 2020 01:12 PM (KAi1n)

227 Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 01:03 PM (wkJ52)

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Concern status:

{ } Not Noted

{X} Noted

Posted by: Two Weeks From Living Well at August 09, 2020 01:13 PM (+dsLj)

228 "216
By enabling such a tax, even a one time affair, that has set the stage
for the confiscation of ALL 401k's and any other form of retirement
funds."

That's coming anyway, sooner or later. The Fifth Amendment taking will be "justly compensated" by an equivalent denomination of "guaranteed" gummint bonds, which will be duly rubber-stamped by SCOTUS.
Agree on opposing the tax regardless.

Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Zap Rowsdower at August 09, 2020 01:13 PM (cUpB1)

229 Like, the things you own end up owning you, man.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 01:13 PM (NWiLs)

230 It's Moo Moo/Lurking Lurker

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2020 01:11 PM (vMCab)

Obstinate/Ignorant?

Posted by: BignJames at August 09, 2020 01:13 PM (X/Pw5)

231 "I wonder if landlords still have to pay property tax, mortgage and maintenance?????"

Hey not being able to can't pay your mortgage and property tax sounds like a personal problem, why should I give a fuck?

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2020 01:14 PM (4thlk)

232 Like, the things you own end up owning you, man.

Whoa. Mind.Blown.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2020 01:14 PM (yQpMk)

233 Like, the things you own end up owning you, man.
Posted by: Insomniac

Dude.

Posted by: Miklos, holding but not bogueing at August 09, 2020 01:14 PM (QzkSJ)

234 Why not 100%? I mean what's do special about 60%? By doing this you are establishing that the government can fully confiscate anything they want at any time. It's like telling a rape victim that the rapist only put his penis 60% of the way in as a way of making them feel better about the whole thing. Which misses the point about being raped. Which this proposal kind of is. But as we have already learned, Bernie has some exotic porn tastes anyhow.

Posted by: Montesquieu's Big Idea at August 09, 2020 01:15 PM (8FfnY)

235 Buffett is a decrepit old man who should retire the hell from Berkshire.

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2020 01:15 PM (zr5Kq)

236 'It's Moo Moo/Lurking Lurker'

It hurts to have to sell off a Bentley.

Posted by: freaked at August 09, 2020 01:15 PM (Tnijr)

237 We don't have enough real poverty in this country. Poverty is the whip that drives the drinking class to work.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2020 01:15 PM (yQpMk)

238 Yes, I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.

Maybe someday you'll join us and the world will live as one! *hic*

Posted by: Wine Moms at August 09, 2020 01:15 PM (EgshT)

239 ....And shut up about taxes.

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2020 01:15 PM (zr5Kq)

240 I do hate the eitc you are correct. I hate all welfare.
Posted by: Asshoes

Pulled from my fuzzy memory. The original intent of the eitc was to provide additional support to working single mothers. A GAO analysis in the shrub's first term determined that roughly 50% of the eitc was ending up with tax preparation firms like H&R Block and Jackson Hewitt in the form of tax prep and rapid refund loan fees.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...privilege this MoFo's at August 09, 2020 01:15 PM (pgQSC)

241 216 By enabling such a tax, even a one time affair, that has set the stage for the confiscation of ALL 401k's and any other form of retirement funds.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (KATBx)
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BINGO !!!!!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2020 01:17 PM (M/9m0)

242 Sen. Sanders proposes one-time tax that would cost Bezos $42.8 billion,
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WTH!? That's more than a divorce costs!

Posted by: Jeff Bezos at August 09, 2020 01:17 PM (bPH26)

243 We don't have enough real poverty in this country. Poverty is the whip that drives the drinking class to work.

==

and working class to drink ?

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2020 01:17 PM (zr5Kq)

244 This whole latest EO aside, the whole usurpation of property rights and personal freedom that we've seen since March is truly astonishing and appalling. This covers lots of diverse ground, I know.

And reminds me of yet another gap in my WWII history - the legal basis for the virtual nationalization of the entire economy (well, strict control from guvamint). The Office of Price Control has a weird orwellian ring to it, but it was reality for years. And much more, of course.

Most of the measures adopted during the war did in fact go away, even if some lived on to do their damage for decades to come (tax treatment of health insurance, one of the most disastrous things in modern American history, as its full malign effect played out til today).

And speaking of WWII, Happy Nagasaki Day everyone!

And I do recommend Nagasaki as a place to visit, very nice mellow small city. Actually seriously thinking of moving there for a bit, even have a favorite neighborhood picked out.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 09, 2020 01:17 PM (OTzUX)

245 What is NR type? national review?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 09, 2020 01:17 PM (5qdFy)

246 The bad faith and irresponsibility of the Dems (and many GOP), just generally but also in this situation, of course are breath-taking, and depressing. And Trump is probably doing the best broken-field running he can see working at the moment.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (OTzUX)

I agree, what he's doing is broken field running. The left took away his economy, they took away his rallies, they thought they could neutralize him. But he's improvising as fast as he can, and he's still outthinking them.

It has been comical this morning to read about Nancy Pelosi and all the Never Trumpers whining about his EO's. Trump kept saying over and over that this is what he would do if you refused to negotiate - why are you surprised that he did what he said he would do if you forced him into it? And so now what are you going to do about it Nancy, file a suit in federal court to try and take unemployed workers money away, right before a national election? Really??

but the biggest thing, how could all of you have been such big idiots as to walk confidently straight into this trap?

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 09, 2020 01:17 PM (trdmm)

247 Sen. Sanders proposes one-time tax that would cost Bezos $42.8 billion, Musk $27.5 billion

Great way to dry up donations to the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:17 PM (9GGM/)

248 Taxes NEVER go away. Occasionally they get cut.

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2020 01:18 PM (zr5Kq)

249 I love how Bezos cannot be taxed, but a small landlord can be bent over and fucked up the ass in the name of FAIRNESS!

Posted by: Asshoes at August 09, 2020 01:18 PM (wkJ52)

250 I will note this, I have worked my entire life. If the government were willing to pay me a minimum UBI*, I would stop and join the leisure poor.

*sort of what I am planning for next year with SS.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2020 01:18 PM (yQpMk)

251 That's the thing, isn't it? There's so much
government fuckery involved in student and housing loans that I really
wouldn't give a shit. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (NWiLs)

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Make student loans dischargeable like any other debt.

Defaults are reimbursed to the Treasury from university endowments, since that's where the money went.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 01:19 PM (cfSRQ)

252 Sen. Sanders proposes one-time tax that would cost Bezos $42.8 billion, Musk $27.5 billion

Great way to dry up donations to the Democrat Party.

even that is not worth it

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2020 01:19 PM (zr5Kq)

253 Like, the things you own end up owning you, man.
Posted by: Insomniac

Dude.
Posted by: Miklos
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Karma. What goes around comes around.

Posted by: 60's hippy at August 09, 2020 01:19 PM (bPH26)

254 Like, the things you own end up owning you, man.

Posted by: Insomniac

When did we start talking about harleys? lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2020 01:20 PM (9Om/r)

255 Hey not being able to can't pay your mortgage and property tax sounds like a personal problem, why should I give a fuck?

I guessing that you don't own any real estate.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 09, 2020 01:20 PM (luzVb)

256 A man who cannot discard a treasure at need is in fetters.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2020 01:21 PM (yQpMk)

257 apropos of nothing...Susan Rice as veep for Bidet - Perfect ! I hope it is that combo.

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2020 01:21 PM (zr5Kq)

258 The funds would be used to pay for out-of-pocket health-care expenses for all Americans for a year

What happens the next year?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:21 PM (9GGM/)

259 Sen. Sanders proposes one-time tax that would cost Bezos $42.8 billion, Musk $27.5 billion

Great way to dry up donations to the Democrat Party.
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And to whom do you think Bernie intends to funnel that money?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:21 PM (bPH26)

260 Defaults are reimbursed to the Treasury from university endowments, since that's where the money went.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed

Sadly, there isn't enough.

We would also have to sell the body parts of all the Deputy Associate Assistant Executive Deans of Diversity and Inclusion.

Posted by: Miklos, with Cocktail Napkin Calculator at August 09, 2020 01:21 PM (QzkSJ)

261 Setting the confiscation aside, one way to normalize taxes for billionaires is to end the preferential treatment for borrowing against their equity. If you borrow against your house and don't use it for improvements, you can't deduct the interest. I'd go farther, if you borrow against your business equity and don't reinvest in the business, not only is the interest NOT deductible, but the principal is counted as income.

Remember, ZUCK borrowed $750M against his FB stock at a 1% rate to buy a house or 3 etc. He paid zero taxes on it because he didn't sell a share. In my world, that's taxed at the full-fat fed and local rates.

Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2020 01:22 PM (KWYbg)

262 Great way to dry up donations to the Democrat Party.

even that is not worth it
Posted by: runner at August 09, 2020 01:19 PM (zr5Kq)

No, of course not. I was kidding.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:22 PM (9GGM/)

263
A man who cannot discard a treasure at need is in fetters.

Confucius ?

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2020 01:22 PM (zr5Kq)

264 Sadly, there isn't enough.

We would also have to sell the body parts of all the Deputy Associate Assistant Executive Deans of Diversity and Inclusion.

This is acceptable.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2020 01:22 PM (yQpMk)

265 Nope, I looked it up...

The Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act was 2005 - GWB.

I never took a student loan, I paid on the barrelhead. But if I had, I'd have been one of the last to be able to discharge it in a bankruptcy filing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 01:22 PM (Tm4zg)

266 Hey, I have an idea: why don't tax the bejesus out of everyone who has more than one home?

What say you, Bernie?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:22 PM (9GGM/)

267 "I guessing that you don't own any real estate."

I was just throwing back Asshoes take on people that can't pay their rent during this economic crisis back at him.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2020 01:23 PM (4thlk)

268 1913 was the death of the Republic.

Prove me wrong.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 09, 2020 01:23 PM (vIxqx)

269 Confucius ?

Aragorn.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2020 01:23 PM (yQpMk)

270 A man who cannot discard a treasure at need is in fetters.

Confucius ?
Posted by: runner
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Mr. Ed?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:23 PM (830x5)

271 1913 was the death of the Republic.

Prove me wrong.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Zut alors.

Posted by: French Republics 1,2,3 and 4 at August 09, 2020 01:26 PM (QzkSJ)

272
The feds just borrow what they want anyways.

From whom do they borrow?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 09, 2020 01:26 PM (aKsyK)

273 In bed?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at August 09, 2020 01:26 PM (5qdFy)

274 1913 was the death of the Republic.

-

I'm sticking with Marbury vs Madison.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 01:26 PM (HxL16)

275 We would also have to sell the body parts of all the Deputy Associate Assistant Executive Deans of Diversity and Inclusion.

The college of chemistry at Berkeley called me several years ago to ~~beg~~ ask for a donation.

Me: "Redistribute the wealth. Use the chem department's muscle to redirect money from the humanities and social "science" departments.

The sweet girl on the phone: "But the whole university is short of funds."

Me: "Berkeley just established an office of diversity and inclusion with a budget of $4 million per year. So I know where you can get $4 million, right off the top of my head. Then if you give me a clipboard, a sheaf of pink slips, and directions to the sociology and grievance studies departments, I can fix your budgetary woes in a heartbeat."

They never called again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:27 PM (9GGM/)

276 The income tax is an invention of the Devil.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 09, 2020 01:27 PM (yQpMk)

277 I was just throwing back Asshoes take on people that can't pay their rent during this economic crisis back at him.

Ah. Understood.

Well if nothing else , Trump has succeeded in revealing how the leftists are attacking us - personally and viciously. It's not him that they hate. It's us.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 09, 2020 01:27 PM (luzVb)

278 From whom do they borrow?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

From ourselves!

So really, we don't owe anything!

Posted by: Miklos Ocasio-Lenin-von Numnutz at August 09, 2020 01:27 PM (QzkSJ)

279 260---...We would also have to sell the body parts of all the Deputy Associate Assistant Executive Deans of Diversity and Inclusion.

Posted by: Miklos, with Cocktail Napkin Calculator at August 09, 2020 01:21 PM (QzkSJ)
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Ooooh. Me likey!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2020 01:27 PM (M/9m0)

280 Was I right or was I right?

This country HATES success and achievement.

Don't call me a "liar" either or argue with me; if I am wrong, or a liar, how does Mr. Sanders get into elected office? Or countless other politicians that get into power by promising voters that they will screw rich people because rich people are somehow evil?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 09, 2020 01:28 PM (ejsiI)

281 'From whom do they borrow? '

The money trees.

Posted by: freaked at August 09, 2020 01:28 PM (Tnijr)

282 From whom do they borrow?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 09, 2020 01:26 PM (aKsyK)

The country's future.

Which is heavily mortgaged. VERY heavily.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:28 PM (9GGM/)

283 Taxes NEVER go away. Occasionally they get cut.
Posted by: runner at August 09, 2020 01:18 PM

And entitlements never shrink, occasionally they increase.

FIFY

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2020 01:28 PM (OjZpE)

284 We would also have to sell the body parts of all the Deputy Associate Assistant Executive Deans of Diversity and Inclusion.

Posted by: Miklos, with Cocktail Napkin Calculator at August 09, 2020 01:21 PM (QzkSJ)

I've got a sawzall I'm happy to donate!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:29 PM (9GGM/)

285 The income tax is an invention of the Devil.
Posted by: Grump928
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Pales in comparison to property taxes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:29 PM (bPH26)

286 you know who structures sentences like this:

"don't call me X or an X, [insert straw man] ?!?!?!"

leftists do

just saying

Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 09, 2020 01:29 PM (j9HX3)

287 274 1913 was the death of the Republic.
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I'm sticking with Marbury vs Madison.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 01:26 PM (HxL16)
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I'm sticking with that incident in Eden.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2020 01:29 PM (M/9m0)

288
I'm sticking with Marbury vs Madison.
Posted by: Charles Darwin - Pop quiz: What does COVID and homelessness have in common politically? at August 09, 2020 01:26 PM (HxL16)

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Yup. John Marshall realized he would never be President, and would be stuck in his sinecure at the weak-sister branch forever, so he just changed Article III. What a dick. It was hard to see in 1803, but this thing was a yuuuuge wrench in the works that has come back to haunt us over and over again.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2020 01:31 PM (Tm4zg)

289 We need to refinance the mortgage on our future.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 09, 2020 01:31 PM (aKsyK)

290 Or countless other politicians that get into power by promising voters that they will screw rich people because rich people are somehow evil?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
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You just don't understand. No one can gain, without someone else losing.

Posted by: Marxism indoctrinated SJW/AntiFa at August 09, 2020 01:31 PM (bPH26)

291 don't call me X

It's Mister X.

But you can call me Malcolm.

Posted by: down for the SHTRUGGLE at August 09, 2020 01:31 PM (QzkSJ)

292 270 A man who cannot discard a treasure at need is in fetters.

Confucius ?
Posted by: runner
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Mr. Ed?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:23 PM (830x5)

Well, we know it wasn't Biden, or it would have read something like "A man who cannot discard the ... thing when you know, I mean, c'mon man!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:31 PM (9GGM/)

293 291 don't call me X

It's Mister X.

But you can call me Malcolm.
Posted by: down for the SHTRUGGLE at August 09, 2020 01:31 PM (QzkSJ)

I always wondered if there were a Malcolm XI.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:32 PM (9GGM/)

294 We won our personal war on poverty some time ago. The result of many years of hard work and frugality.

We're not super rich, just comfortable--no debts and only ongoing living expenses to account for.

All I ask is to live out my remaining years in peace and quiet, already had some very competent and pissed off people shooting at me, I want no more of that.

Any attempt at confiscation of my retirement (through taxes or outright seizure) will be defended against by whatever means I deem appropriate.

TPTB may want to keep that in mind, I am multiplied greatly.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 09, 2020 01:33 PM (KATBx)

295 Corporations are people ... let's just charge the FANGs with sedition/treason/? and confiscate the whole thang.

Sure, Muh Private corporation ... but they are anti-American and conspiring to interfere in the election, Big Time conspiring against conservatives. And they are doing it in harmony with leftist global foundations and foreign entities, including commie enemies.

Government run is bad, but government funded much of the research for these leftist behemoths, which now have plans to overthrow America and our constitution. Their CEOs have lied to congress, they have acted against patriotic conservatives and censored life saving HCQ news.

We could keep them private maybe, but like ATT or other utilities? idk, but currently they are acting like their own shadow government, and they perhaps work in harmony with DeepState/Media/DNC, if not directly with China and Soros and oligarch minions to be named later.

Because we don't need the money, we need the control back from the seditionists and coup plotters. (imprisoning the worst offenders would also be helpful, if we don't do public hangings)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 09, 2020 01:33 PM (Cus5s)

296 I always wondered if there were a Malcolm XI.

Maybe they increment it like laundry tags.

Malcolm XX.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 09, 2020 01:33 PM (luzVb)

297 Pales in comparison to property taxes.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:29 PM (bPH26)

How to sock it to the bourgeoisie? Hmm, must think, must think. Wait - I've got it! A tax on property. Perfect!

Poll taxes are un-Constitutional, but property taxes are A-OK.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:34 PM (9GGM/)

298 They never called again.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:27 PM (9GGM/)

There is so much bloat in the UC system it is almost unimaginable...until you realize that it's California.

The administration has doubled in size since I was there...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2020 01:34 PM (xT2tT)

299 296 I always wondered if there were a Malcolm XI.

Maybe they increment it like laundry tags.

Malcolm XX.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 09, 2020 01:33 PM (luzVb)

Good point. Although in the digital era, maybe it's Malcolm 1010.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:35 PM (9GGM/)

300
I always wondered if there were a Malcolm XI.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:32 PM (9GGM/)

Uh, where's Malcolm I-IX?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 09, 2020 01:36 PM (ejsiI)

301 Because we don't need the money, we need the control back from the seditionists and coup plotters. (imprisoning the worst offenders would also be helpful, if we don't do public hangings)
Posted by: illiniwek

Suggestion-make the members of the Boards of Directors personally liable for any civil or criminal penalty due to those companies.

Posted by: Miklosian Rectification Campaigns 202)! at August 09, 2020 01:36 PM (QzkSJ)

302 I mean, c'mon man!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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You would think that one of his advisors would try to get him to quit tediously, vapidly, using 60's hippie-speak.

They probably can't find a diplomatic way of doing it that he would understand.

Advisor: "Mr. VP, we would recommend that you stop repetitiously using trite phrases."

Biden: " Awwww, c'mon man!"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:37 PM (WD9ZA)

303 There is so much bloat in the UC system it is almost unimaginable...until you realize that it's California.

The administration has doubled in size since I was there...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2020 01:34 PM (xT2tT)

Yep.

The rest of the story. The sweet thing - and she really was - countered with, "I don't disagree, but those departments are really popular."

"C'mon, sweetheart. If there a department of Beer Drinking, THAT would be really popular too, wouldn't it?

She had no idea what she'd be dealing with when she dialed my number.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:37 PM (9GGM/)

304
Uh, where's Malcolm I-IX?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
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Probably in jail.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:38 PM (WD9ZA)

305 The Dildo is evolving. Slowly, yet evolving in the right direction in 2020 and beyond.
* wipes tear from right eye *

Posted by: Maskhole at August 09, 2020 01:38 PM (2ab8V)

306 Philosophically I'm against it. Pragmatically, it's a necessary drop in the bucket and wouldn't come close to balancing the reckless spending.
But the part of me that knows some petards need hoisting is all for it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 09, 2020 01:38 PM (z79tQ)

307 You would think that one of his advisors would try to get him to quit tediously, vapidly, using 60's hippie-speak.

They probably can't find a diplomatic way of doing it that he would understand.

Advisor: "Mr. VP, we would recommend that you stop repetitiously using trite phrases."

Biden: " Awwww, c'mon man!"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:37 PM (WD9ZA)

"Far out!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:38 PM (9GGM/)

308 People are confused, lost and really really scared.
Not a recipe for rational thinking or logical decision-making.

I think that thing are going to get much much worse in the coming months.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 09, 2020 01:39 PM (luzVb)

309 Mostly already said, but:

The income tax (16th Amendment) was sold as a "tax on the rich". The initial rate was 1% on incomes above $3,000 ($78,000 today). It didn't stay there.

Amazon stock is only worth what it is because Jeff Bezos votes that stock. Its value if it got dumped, or if it was being voted by the likes of Burny Sanders would be...considerably less.

I note with amusement that Burny's "millionaires and billionaires" catchphrase has been modified of late. Millionaires no longer signify.

Nothing to do with Burny himself now being a multimillionaire, I'm sure.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 09, 2020 01:39 PM (unn44)

310 And now we know why they could not let bernie get the nomination.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 09, 2020 01:39 PM (JUOKG)

311 "The administration has doubled in size since I was there..."

And it isn't just universities, it's local K-12 also. Brand new administrative buildings packed with people. What they do all day I have no idea.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2020 01:39 PM (4thlk)

312 I don't know who put Schrader's piece in the sidebar and proceeded to dump on her, but she's firmly ON OUR SIDE. I know her personally and the sidebar editorializing was derisive. If the snark was not meant to mock Emily herself, that should be made clear. What she puts out is deserving of our support, not our mockery.

Posted by: geewhiz at August 09, 2020 01:39 PM (ih1HZ)

313 Biden: " Awwww, c'mon man!"
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:37 PM (WD9ZA)

"Far out!"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

*snaps fingers*

Copascetic.

Posted by: Maynard G. Miklos-Krebs at August 09, 2020 01:40 PM (QzkSJ)

314 Which makes me wonder why you are doing it?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 01:10 PM (cfSRQ)

I think he has not gotten the specs for the Vauban star fort and is working on the older fortification model

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2020 01:40 PM (WyVLE)

315 > Uh, where's Malcolm I-IX?

There was that show "Malcolm in the Middle".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 09, 2020 01:41 PM (unn44)

316 And it isn't just universities, it's local K-12 also. Brand new administrative buildings packed with people. What they do all day I have no idea.
Posted by: lowandslow

Mock you and spend your money?

Posted by: iklos, probably quite correct at August 09, 2020 01:42 PM (QzkSJ)

317
There was that show "Malcolm in the Middle".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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And, the T-Rex's.

Posted by: Dr. Ian Malcolm at August 09, 2020 01:42 PM (GBHAb)

318 Sadly, there isn't enough.

We would also have to sell the body parts of all the Deputy Associate Assistant Executive Deans of Diversity and Inclusion.

Posted by: Miklos, with Cocktail Napkin Calculator at August 09, 2020 01:21 PM (QzkSJ)

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You say that like its a bad thing.

After the endowments are spent, we can put a surtax on Universities until the full amount is repaid.

Or just take it out of their federal aid. Either way, it's a win.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 09, 2020 01:42 PM (cfSRQ)

319 "A man who cannot discard the ... thing when you know, I mean, c'mon man!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:31 PM (9GGM/)

If any debates occur, a highly debatable question, I propose "c'mon man" and some version of "you know the thing" as do a shot phrases.

We should all be stinking drunk within 30 minutes ie ahead of schedule.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 09, 2020 01:42 PM (XF4b8)

320 It has been comical this morning to read about Nancy Pelosi and all the Never Trumpers whining about his EO's. Trump kept saying over and over that this is what he would do if you refused to negotiate - why are you surprised that he did what he said he would do if you forced him into it? And so now what are you going to do about it Nancy, file a suit in federal court to try and take unemployed workers money away, right before a national election? Really??

Just one more example of the level of their stupidy. Our vacuous, foaming at the mouth, leaders showing their true colors, dancing for the brain washed masses.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...privilege this MoFo's at August 09, 2020 01:42 PM (pgQSC)

321 but the biggest thing, how could all of you have been such big idiots as to walk confidently straight into this trap?
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 09, 2020 01:17 PM (trdmm)

They've been getting away with not taking Republicans seriously for decades.

Posted by: Emmie at August 09, 2020 01:43 PM (4JM5Y)

322
If any debates occur, a highly debatable question, I propose "c'mon man" and some version of "you know the thing" as do a shot phrases.
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What about inane laughter?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:44 PM (GBHAb)

323 We don't have enough real poverty in this country. Poverty is the whip that drives the drinking class to work.

==

and working class to drink ?

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2020 01:17 PM (zr5Kq)

Work is the curse of the drinking class -- Oscar Wilde

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 09, 2020 01:44 PM (qKXXr)

324 291
don't call me X

It's Mister X.

But you can call me Malcolm.

Posted by: down for the SHTRUGGLE at August 09, 2020 01:31 PM (QzkSJ)

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That's LIEUTENANT COLONEL X.

Posted by: Bearclaw X at August 09, 2020 01:44 PM (cfSRQ)

325 The average moron would be shocked by the multi million dollar mansions I walked past this morning, adorned with Bernie, Warren, Biden, and BLM signage.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 09, 2020 01:44 PM (EZebt)

326 And it isn't just universities, it's local K-12 also. Brand new administrative buildings packed with people. What they do all day I have no idea.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2020 01:39 PM (4thlk)

Why do K-12 ~~teachers~~ educators have tenure? Tenure is designed to protect researchers from retribution for promulgating unpopular ideas. (See, e.g., Howard Zinn, but also Arthur Jensen.)

To get tenure at the university level you have to publish a considerable body of work that is found to be of suitable intellectual heft.*

Do K-12 teachers do any research, or publish anything at all, popular or otherwise? I missed that.

*I know, a lot of people get tenure in intellectual sandbox departments for publishing rubbish, but this is how it's supposed to work, and definitely the way it works in STEM.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:45 PM (9GGM/)

327 What about inane laughter?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,

I will not wear a wire.

Posted by: iklos, 5th Amendment etc. at August 09, 2020 01:45 PM (QzkSJ)

328 If any debates occur, a highly debatable question, I propose "c'mon man" and some version of "you know the thing" as do a shot phrases.

Be sure to put local ERs on high alert if we do this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:46 PM (9GGM/)

329 300
I always wondered if there were a Malcolm XI.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:32 PM (9GGM/)

Uh, where's Malcolm I-IX?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 09, 2020 01:36 PM (ejsiI)

They didn't survive the Adamantium bonding process.

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2020 01:47 PM (vMCab)

330 The average moron would be shocked by the multi million dollar mansions I walked past this morning, adorned with Bernie, Warren, Biden, and BLM signage.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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One of the most affluent families in the neighborhood (replete with multi-mil house) now has two BLM signs out front.

One part of my mind says that they are trying to buy an indulgence...the other part says that they are virtue-signaling idiots.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:48 PM (pK7cg)

331 Yudhishthira's Dice 2024

Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 09, 2020 01:48 PM (BRkq2)

332 So I said to this joker, you'd better 23-skidoo, Skeezix, or you're gonna get banjaxed.

Posted by: The Silver-Tongued Joe Biden at August 09, 2020 01:48 PM (unn44)

333 I just saw this pop up on my Insty feed - BLM idiots (at least 2) pointing handguns at a pickup truck while stopping traffic. At least one idiot standing next to this with his ~~kid~~ meat shield.

https://tinyurl.com/y4z7mveg

Strange this isn't making the news. I'm sorry, if only 2 guys were holding guns in front of me, I'd count on accelerating faster than they can level their pistols. How this hasn't gotten even uglier is beyond me - other than normal people are kowtowing to their every whim. This is all about them showing they're in control of our lives.

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 09, 2020 01:48 PM (8B6Ng)

334 What about inane laughter?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 09, 2020 01:44 PM (GBHAb)

Maybe he will burst an important blood vessel doing that 'un. But yeah, he is certain to pull that move repeatedly.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 09, 2020 01:50 PM (XF4b8)

335 Uh, where's Malcolm I-IX?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 09, 2020 01:36 PM (ejsiI)

Coming up for parole about now, most likely.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 01:50 PM (9GGM/)

336 333 I just saw this pop up on my Insty feed - BLM idiots (at least 2) pointing handguns at a pickup truck while stopping traffic. At least one idiot standing next to this with his kid meat shield.

https://tinyurl.com/y4z7mveg

Strange this isn't making the news. I'm sorry, if only 2 guys were holding guns in front of me, I'd count on accelerating faster than they can level their pistols. How this hasn't gotten even uglier is beyond me - other than normal people are kowtowing to their every whim. This is all about them showing they're in control of our lives.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 09, 2020 01:48 PM (8B6Ng)

My guess is that this is being done in the location with the Soros DAs where the thugs get released with no charges. But anyone that stands up to them is arrested and charged.

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2020 01:50 PM (vMCab)

337 If Bernie were the nominee, the Dems would be a centrist party, that has always been their path to victory. They would be making Trump's personality the issue, but, they chose batshit crazy as their message.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 09, 2020 01:50 PM (4vNgL)

338 Where does Professor X fit in here? I know Malcolm was half white. Maybe Professor X was his daddy? Like a Strom Thurmond situation?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 09, 2020 01:51 PM (unn44)

339 The administration has doubled in size since I was there...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 09, 2020 01:34 PM (xT2tT)
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Considering the former D governor of AZ was, until recently, in charge of the UC system, it's to be expected.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
Now sporting transition lenses!
at August 09, 2020 01:51 PM (WEBkv)

340 325 The average moron would be shocked by the multi million dollar mansions I walked past this morning, adorned with Bernie, Warren, Biden, and BLM signage.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 09, 2020 01:44 PM (EZebt)
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No, no, the average moron would not be shocked at all.
Only a LIV would be shocked.

I remember during an election season when my son came home with this spiel about the GOP being the "party of the rich" and the Dems the party of the poor and middle class.

I laughed and took him on a tour of different neighborhoods to look at the signs. Ha!
Then I turned him onto sites like Open Secrets, where he could see who the Forbes super-rich fund most.
Yeah, HE was shocked.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 09, 2020 01:52 PM (M/9m0)

341 The average moron would be shocked by the multi million dollar mansions I walked past this morning, adorned with Bernie, Warren, Biden, and BLM signage.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 09, 2020 01:44 PM (EZebt)

I thought a lean-to shed was selling for multi millions in SF. So basically, every building.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 09, 2020 01:53 PM (XF4b8)

342 "If passed, the bill would tax billionaires on wealth accumulated through the end of the year..."

Dumb fuck probably thinks they can write a check from their bank account.

Posted by: Javems at August 09, 2020 01:53 PM (fk9y/)

343 https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ martenson-its-time-position-endgame

" Let's do a little math here. Handing 3.3% of the value of the entire economic output of 160,000,000 working people to roughly 600 individuals is the equivalent of granting each one of those 600 billionaires the entire yearly output of 9,020 people.

It's like the Fed decided that each billionaire deserved to have 9,020 people become their slaves for the year. How is that *not* psychopathic? How is that fair? What's the plan here? Keep going until these 600 people own everything in the world?....

(Based and MainstreetPilled)

Posted by: Maskhole at August 09, 2020 01:53 PM (2ab8V)

344 Like him or hate him, Bezos kept the merch moving during the lockdowns.

I think he deserves every penny.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 09, 2020 01:55 PM (unn44)

345 Yesterday in a local store , friend witnessed two college kids being berated, stalked and harassed by another college kid for walking around a grocery store with their masks on "improperly". Danced like a fucking monkey right up to the line of pissing them off, trying to get someone to punch him so he could be a martyr.

Fucking Antifa fascist brownshirts are everywhere.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 09, 2020 01:55 PM (luzVb)

346 Let's tax politicians 90% of the difference in their net worth between leaving office and entering it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 09, 2020 01:57 PM (unn44)

347
I'm sticking with Marbury vs Madison.
Posted by: Charles Darwin

MvM just turned one part of the Federal government against itself.

1913 turned every citizen into a fucking piece of government property.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 09, 2020 01:57 PM (vIxqx)

348 {{{MdeVille}}}

> $10 million
Unobstructed Golden Gate views adjacent to Presidio

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 09, 2020 01:58 PM (EZebt)

349 Confused, lost and really scared is rightg where they want us to be, so they can pull the crap they want on us.

Before I finished writing that got a pop up picture of a group of government officials with each named, no idea where that came from.

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2020 01:59 PM (OjZpE)

350 YOUR FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS NOOD

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at August 09, 2020 02:01 PM (OjZpE)

351 Like him or hate him, Bezos kept the merch moving during the lockdowns.

I think he deserves every penny.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 09, 2020 01:55 PM (unn44)
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Yep.

Especially since Amazon keeps me away from people who might catch me on a bad day. And my bad days sort of run together, lately.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
Now sporting transition lenses!
at August 09, 2020 02:02 PM (WEBkv)

352 344 Like him or hate him, Bezos kept the merch moving during the lockdowns.

I think he deserves every penny.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 09, 2020 01:55 PM (unn44)

The infrastructure and workers did. Bezos didn't do shit but totally eliminate even more small businesses during this crisis.

Posted by: Maskhole at August 09, 2020 02:02 PM (2ab8V)

353 YOUR LAST CALL FOR NOOD

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at August 09, 2020 02:05 PM (OjZpE)

354 nood

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 09, 2020 02:05 PM (vIxqx)

355 My guess is that this is being done in the location with the Soros DAs where the thugs get released with no charges. But anyone that stands up to them is arrested and charged.
Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2020 01:50 PM (vMCab)

I'd think that since Indianapolis is still mostly red, something could happen. Sure, the mayor is a flaming lefty - and I've got no idea about the DA etc. Soros has certainly been a busy little demon placing these people in surprising places.

The media is 100% complicit, and the democrats will keep saying none of this exists. Most Americans would be shocked to see this.

I swear, it's about time to get an old F350, and mad-max the fuck out of the thing. Shoot all you want, just make sure the ricochet doesn't hurt any bystanders.

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 09, 2020 02:06 PM (8B6Ng)

356 The imbalance of rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics.
- Plutarch

(I'm sure current year influencers at ConInc and The Uniparty know better than the greatest of Western Philosophers. /s. Let's look to the National Review, The Federalist, and Reason mag for answers.)

Posted by: Maskhole at August 09, 2020 02:07 PM (2ab8V)

357 "Bezos kept the merch moving during the lockdowns."

assuming he did not negotiate that in advance, as part of the lockdown that would close his competition, allowing him to gain market share (buyers that preferred to Buy Local, but local was forcibly closed).

Bezos was granted immunity, it would seem ... nothing brave about that.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 09, 2020 02:09 PM (Cus5s)

358 I'm on board with this. People like Bezos DEMAND more government, so let's give them all the GOVERNMENT they can stand. As one man said, "You know, at some point I DO think you've made enough money." Bezos, Oprah, Gates, Soros, et al. have all made enough money. Tax them at 100% rates.

Posted by: I Have Questions at August 09, 2020 02:32 PM (+v+zN)

359 It's just a mask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sce49QexZio

Posted by: It's Just A Mask at August 09, 2020 12:26 PM (XGsBz)
Outstanding. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast

Posted on Facebook as well. Taking bets on how long it takes them to find, cancel and erase it from all social media sites? If they could get away with it they would try to imprison everyone who was involved with producing it, saw it, and shared it.

Posted by: idlan at August 09, 2020 02:33 PM (FOOiW)

360 Tax actors, actresses, and sportsball millionaires. Give 'em $15 an hour, and call it good.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 09, 2020 02:34 PM (9GGM/)

361 The agenda is much further exposed!
Remember the 60's, warehouse black people is large buildings. We called them slums, ghettos, the projects, hell holes where drug deals and incredible evils to families occurred and the buildings were eventually gutted and torn down. After running the rich out of NewYork, De Blasio wants to return to the projects, slums for black people! The Democrat plantation gets clearer and clearer!
I have many times mentioned they intend to turn America into third world Country hell holes, didn't i? !

Posted by: ron n. at August 09, 2020 02:34 PM (om5HK)

362 Husband and I are retired. We have no payroll tax to pay, no student loans, we own our home and don't have mortgage, and aren't unemployed. His EO was nothing to us.

Posted by: megthered at August 09, 2020 02:36 PM (MsK6T)

363 I should have mentioned,DeBlasio intends to now use thousands of buildings to house people in socialist ghettos AGAIN.

Posted by: ron n. at August 09, 2020 02:38 PM (om5HK)

364 Does asshoe think we all have prison numbers here?
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Moron XLI, now listen to me, all of you. You are all condemned men. We keep you alive to serve this thread. So comment well, and live.

Posted by: zombie Quintus Arrius at August 09, 2020 03:14 PM (an7Mv)

365 "...one-time 60% tax on wealth gains made by billionaires between March 18, 2020, and Jan. 1, 2021."

Useless, billionaires would have their legal and accounting people shift their gains outside of this window.

Posted by: iowaan at August 09, 2020 03:34 PM (L0CA6)

366 I'll take my cut in gold or silver.....

Posted by: James R. McKenna at August 09, 2020 04:29 PM (2d1IY)

367 The REAL question is what would that tax cost Schwartz Gy�rgy???

THAT answer will tell you whether or not the Democrats would ever pass such a tax. They are OWNED by the tribe!!!

Posted by: Mark Matis at August 09, 2020 04:39 PM (nZJej)

368 My proposal for use of Mao Mao Bernie's Bazillionaires tax :

send massive world-war-4 level military assets of every form to kick his beloved CCP's arse out of So China Sea,
and away from Taiwan, Japan, Hong Kong, Tai Pei, Okinawa, Guam, etc etc.

All in a day;s work.

Posted by: lunatic fringe-i know i'm out there. at August 09, 2020 04:43 PM (Mce6+)

369 362 Husband and I are retired. We have no payroll tax to
pay, no student loans, we own our home and don't have mortgage, and
aren't unemployed. His EO was nothing to us.

Posted by: megthered at August 09, 2020 02:36 PM (MsK6T)

Bravo!
From my POV, a rising tide will lift all boats.

Posted by: lunatic fringe-i know i'm out there. at August 09, 2020 04:48 PM (Mce6+)

370 Re: Admin bloat in higher ed: when I started my first job at the university, 34 years ago, there was exactly one person on campus who held the title of Vice Chancellor. Now, at last count, there were 15.1

Posted by: Introverted Elephocentric Hypochondriac at August 09, 2020 06:34 PM (rw/ga)

371
Sen. Sanders proposes one-time tax that would cost Bezos $42.8 billion, Musk $27.5 billion

do it! do it! do it! especially to the now communist china lovin' fuckin Musk. Musk should pay back every penny of the subsides he has received from american taxpayers.

Posted by: JD at August 09, 2020 08:28 PM (NLEnr)

372 Trump might sign a bill like this just to p@@s off a holes like bezos and musk

Posted by: Tonyp at August 09, 2020 09:19 PM (Ps6Xq)

373 A common myth of online gambling is slot progress.
Give some power for you to the teams and but let's let them fine
players for not playing hard enough.

Posted by: ocean king jammer at September 08, 2020 10:35 PM (Pgq17)

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