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Trump fires TVA Board members for outsourcing labor & allowing CEO to loot its bank account [Buck Throckmorton]
Donald Trump puts America first, and more importantly he puts American workers first.
A quick primer, the Tennessee Valley Authority (or “TVA” for short) was created in 1933 to provide flood control on the Tennessee River, generate electricity, and propel economic development in Appalachia.President Donald Trump said Monday that he had fired the chair of the Tennessee Valley Authority, criticizing the federally owned corporation for hiring foreign workers. Trump told reporters at the White House that he was formally removing chair Skip Thompson and another member of the board, and he threatened to remove other board members if they continued to hire foreign labor.
The order followed the TVA’s announcement that it would outsource 20% of its technology jobs to companies based in foreign countries. TVA’s action could cause more than 200 highly skilled American tech workers in Tennessee to lose their jobs to foreign workers hired on temporary work visas, according to the White House.The president of a TVA engineering union has been telling local media that TVA workers are now having to train their replacements, and that many of the new contract workers are foreign citizens working in America under H-1B visas It’s not just the outsourcing that has President Trump upset. He is also highly critical of TVA’s CEO receiving an $8 million compensation package.
Trump also urged the TVA board to immediately hire a new Chief Executive Officer who “puts the interests of Americans first.” According to the president, the current CEO, Jeff Lyash, earned $8 million a year. “The new CEO must be paid no more than $500,000 a year,” said Trump, who lacks the authority to remove the CEO. “We want the TVA to take action on this immediately. Let this serve as a warning to any federally appointed board: If you betray American workers, you will hear two words: ‘You’re fired.’”CEO Lyash followed the True Conservative™ playbook of terminating employees, making them train their inexpensive foreign replacements, then rewarding himself with a 7 or 8-figure salary for all the labor expense he eliminated. But what if his actions could have saved consumers 1 cent per kilowatt hour after the executive bonuses? David Harsanyi would tell us that as consumers we should celebrate all those employees being fired. To the open-borders / outsource-all-the-jobs / Principled Free Traders™ at National Review, Lyash earned that money by firing his workers and finding cheap foreign replacements. And those displaced tech workers? They can just, uh, learn to code. Oh wait. Our thought leaders now want to outsource coding too. So what does Senator Lamar Alexander (R – Chamber of Commerce) have to say about this?
Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., said the TVA doesn’t get any taxpayer money and defended the CEO’s salary, saying it is in the bottom fourth of what his counterparts earn at other big utilities. “TVA may have shown poor judgment hiring foreign companies during a pandemic, but, on most counts, it does a very good job of producing large amounts of low-cost, reliable electricity. Residential electric rates are among the 25 percent lowest in the country, and industrial rates are among the lowest 10 percent,” Alexander said in a statement. “TVA’s debt is the lowest in 30 years, its pension fund is stronger and TVA leads the country in new nuclear power plants.”Wait…what? TVA’s outsourcing of labor is only a problem “during a pandemic”? Otherwise it’s an idea we should rally around because TVA has a well-funded pension plan? This lifetime politician’s tenure as a Tennessee senator has only a few months left. He won’t be missed. Oh, and look here. After Trump made his announcement, CEO Lyash suddenly found out that his pet Senator doesn’t have any influence on President Trump.
TVA President Jeff Lyash said Tuesday the IT employees at TVA who have received termination notices -- both in a round of 62 individuals whose jobs were to end this summer and another 38 workers whose jobs are ending in October -- will remain on the payroll while TVA goes through a review of the new executive order and completes all of the appeal processes for laying off workers at TVA.President Donald Trump takes bold action like this one against the TVA Board. He also makes some flippant tweets. Which one do you think matters more to Americans who take pride in bringing home a paycheck?
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meep meep motherfuckers
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 10, 2020 03:17 PM (W2Pud)
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Yep
Posted by: Gilded at August 10, 2020 03:17 PM (BRkq2)
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Sponge!
Posted by: Bete at August 10, 2020 03:17 PM (Ojki1)
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not first
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:17 PM (LvTSG)
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I got beeped.
Posted by: Gilded at August 10, 2020 03:17 PM (BRkq2)
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eat a dick, C*ck executive officer
Posted by: The Pudding at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (UPp47)
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Trump could get some votes in Silicon Valley if he highlighted the H1B stuff more to tech workers who are very SJW and Democrat. The execs love cheap Indian labor. American coders - the few that remain - dont. .
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (ha6Lb)
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I would be amazed if one penny of those "savings" found its way into a cut in utility rates.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (OWgiM)
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Quick, show this to Letitia James, NY AG to see what real insider corruption looks like.
Based on her theory, we should be able to dissolve the TVA, right?
Based on her theory, we should be able to dissolve the TVA, right?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (7cvyf)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (W2Pud)
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>>t's not just the outsourcing that has President Trump upset. He is also highly critical of TVA's CEO receiving an $8 million compensation package.
JFC, how many of these little government con jobs are there?
MORE draining of the swamp, Trump!!
JFC, how many of these little government con jobs are there?
MORE draining of the swamp, Trump!!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:20 PM (bDqIh)
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Whoa
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 10, 2020 03:20 PM (Do5/p)
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This was the sort of nonsense that in the 2000s, TruCons told us to embrace with vigor and that voters would ultimately support it because the only other alternative would be socialism.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2020 03:20 PM (gkdnV)
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I voted Trump for retribution.
I will vote for Trump again.
I will vote for Trump again.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2020 03:20 PM (U3fW+)
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good
Posted by: CN at August 10, 2020 03:20 PM (ONvIw)
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Charge the managers with immigration fraud - the whole point of the visa the foreign workers are on is because local workers are not available with the needed skills.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (1g7ch)
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Lamar has always seemed like a kind of useless man, honestly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (A5zUN)
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Lyash should be forced to 'train' his replacement.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (vIxqx)
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I would be amazed if one penny of those "savings" found its way into a cut in utility rates.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (OWgiM)
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Every penny saved is another penny for graft.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (OWgiM)
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Every penny saved is another penny for graft.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
Now sporting transition lenses!
at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (WEBkv)
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He fucked around and found out...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (wtvvX)
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>>VA's debt is the lowest in 30 years, its pension fund is stronger and TVA leads the country in new nuclear power plants.
Excellent.
Excellent.
Posted by: New Madrid Seismic Zone at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (KaltD)
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Reading Exodus, government corruption was warning in that time.
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (OjZpE)
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President Donald Trump takes bold action like this one against the TVA Board. He also makes some flippant tweets.
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Didn't Trump say he found out this whole thing through twitter?
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Didn't Trump say he found out this whole thing through twitter?
Posted by: SH at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (sX1BW)
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Hey Senator Alexander-
Riddle me this: if TVA doesn't get taxpayer dollars, why the FUCK does it have Special Agents who investigative the programs and operations of TVA- as doe other Special Agents in various Federal Department Office of Inspectors General?
Riddle me this: if TVA doesn't get taxpayer dollars, why the FUCK does it have Special Agents who investigative the programs and operations of TVA- as doe other Special Agents in various Federal Department Office of Inspectors General?
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (1+Jvs)
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When this came up last week, I mentioned that the CEO's salary, all other things being equal, is not out of line given the tremendous revenues of the TVA and the fact that the TVA, generally, does a good job at maintaining a vast electric generation and transmission infrastructure. I still think that, though it's neither here nor there.
The government - or a state-owned enterprise or a state-connected enterprise that operates as a chartered monopoly (the TVA resembles both) - has no business outsourcing abroad and displacing American workers with H-1Bs. If they need a specialized skillset we don't have then by all means, go sponsor an H-1B and get him. But that isn't how firms use the program. They use the program to price out American workers and compress wages. When that fails, they just outsource it. It is endemic. I am glad Trump at least threw down in one small area where he has the authority. Beyond that requires cooperation with Congress, and he'll never get it.
I'd like to see the H-1B program reduced by 90%, if not a general moratorium on immigration for a decade. The H-1B program exists for a reason, but that hasn't applied in a very long time if ever.
The government - or a state-owned enterprise or a state-connected enterprise that operates as a chartered monopoly (the TVA resembles both) - has no business outsourcing abroad and displacing American workers with H-1Bs. If they need a specialized skillset we don't have then by all means, go sponsor an H-1B and get him. But that isn't how firms use the program. They use the program to price out American workers and compress wages. When that fails, they just outsource it. It is endemic. I am glad Trump at least threw down in one small area where he has the authority. Beyond that requires cooperation with Congress, and he'll never get it.
I'd like to see the H-1B program reduced by 90%, if not a general moratorium on immigration for a decade. The H-1B program exists for a reason, but that hasn't applied in a very long time if ever.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (hYcqw)
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Maybe we should drain TVA and restore the valleys?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (Bm2ax)
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Which one do you think matters more to Americans who take pride in bringing home a paycheck?
Obviously, the saving of the jobs. Too bad Gaslight Inc has smothered this story with a pillow.
Obviously, the saving of the jobs. Too bad Gaslight Inc has smothered this story with a pillow.
Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (DJFLF)
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Used to work for a high tech company (that dropped 18% just the other week). They sent my job to China. Even made us train our replacements in order to get our severance.
Posted by: Neo at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (3aI0K)
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President Donald Trump takes bold action like this one against the TVA Board. He also makes some flippant tweets. Which one do you think matters more to Americans who take pride in bringing home a paycheck?
Posted by: Open Blogger at 03:17 PM
Added bonus... after this year we won't have Lame R Alexander to kick us around anymore.
Posted by: Open Blogger at 03:17 PM
Added bonus... after this year we won't have Lame R Alexander to kick us around anymore.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (hku12)
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I'll do it for 300k... please, no more
Posted by: A dude in MI at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (/6GbT)
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When the govt runs health care it will be fraud and corruption free. And hence low prices.
-Left
-Left
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (ha6Lb)
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Maybe we should find a way to privatize the TVA? (A real bitch, I know, but still.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (ejsiI)
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President Donald Trump said Monday that he had fired the chair of the Tennessee Valley Authority
He fired the chair? Where will people sit then?
He fired the chair? Where will people sit then?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (zrukV)
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But how will the Republican party reach out to Latino voters if we don't fire American workers and replace them with imported workers?
Posted by: Jeb! at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (wedPR)
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Lamar has always seemed like a kind of useless man, honestly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM
He was OK the first time around as a senator, but he became completely useless after being the useless Secretary of the useless Department of Eduslesscation.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM
He was OK the first time around as a senator, but he became completely useless after being the useless Secretary of the useless Department of Eduslesscation.
Posted by: Bert G at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (OMsf+)
Posted by: ShainS at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (o9UFo)
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>>"TVA may have shown poor judgment hiring foreign companies during a pandemic, but, on most counts, it does a very good job of producing large amounts of low-cost, reliable electricity. . ."
Oh stuff it, Lamar! This is not about low cost goods -- see also: cheap China sh#t sold by America's largest retailers.
Are there any in Congress not happy to sell off American jobs to overseas workforces, or import them here?
Oh stuff it, Lamar! This is not about low cost goods -- see also: cheap China sh#t sold by America's largest retailers.
Are there any in Congress not happy to sell off American jobs to overseas workforces, or import them here?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (bDqIh)
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I would have handled the H-1B virus better than Trump.
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (1ISKN)
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This one isn't really getting any coverage in the press. I guess they cannot figure out how to spin it so its bad for Trump so they are going to ignore it and pretend its not happening.
Remember back when President Bush the younger signed an executive order allowing power companies to use decomissioned military bases for new power plants? I thought that was freaking brilliant but did anything come of it? My guess is Obama reversed it because F-You.
Remember back when President Bush the younger signed an executive order allowing power companies to use decomissioned military bases for new power plants? I thought that was freaking brilliant but did anything come of it? My guess is Obama reversed it because F-You.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (KZzsI)
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I imagine the issue is common at other "quasi-government" run institutions. USPS comes to mind, although I've no idea if they hire non-citizens but the delivery quality of the US mail is similar to what I would expect in bumfuckistain.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (3H9h1)
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Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., said the TVA doesnt get any taxpayer money and defended the CEOs salary, saying it is in the bottom fourth of what his counterparts earn at other big utilities. "TVA may have shown poor judgment hiring foreign companies during a pandemic, but
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Is there another more powerful word than "but"?
Write five hundred pages on a topic, and then those three little letters can negate all of it.
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Is there another more powerful word than "but"?
Write five hundred pages on a topic, and then those three little letters can negate all of it.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (0KD36)
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Trump could get some votes in Silicon Valley if he highlighted the H1B stuff more to tech workers who are very SJW and Democrat. The execs love cheap Indian labor. American coders - the few that remain - dont. .
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (ha6Lb)
Every single place I've worked here has 95% Indian labor, with a few Asian upper management types. It really is slave labor.
These guys come over here, 5 live in one 2 bedroom apartment, they send the money back to the family, and, if they get promoted enough will fly the wife & kids out to join them. They might even all go in on a house together.
I can't blame them for wanting to come here instead of remaining in Hyderabad, but Silicon Valley in cahoots with the chamber of commerce have found their sweet spot. CA is all about importing brown people to do their bidding.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (ha6Lb)
Every single place I've worked here has 95% Indian labor, with a few Asian upper management types. It really is slave labor.
These guys come over here, 5 live in one 2 bedroom apartment, they send the money back to the family, and, if they get promoted enough will fly the wife & kids out to join them. They might even all go in on a house together.
I can't blame them for wanting to come here instead of remaining in Hyderabad, but Silicon Valley in cahoots with the chamber of commerce have found their sweet spot. CA is all about importing brown people to do their bidding.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (8B6Ng)
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Lamar has always seemed like a kind of useless man, honestly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (A5zUN)
Come now, he drove sales of buffalo plaid shirts through the roof during his presidential run.
Lamar has always seemed like a kind of useless man, honestly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (A5zUN)
Come now, he drove sales of buffalo plaid shirts through the roof during his presidential run.
Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (DJFLF)
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (M+Lyo)
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effin' ayyyyyy! Go Donald!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (CjFDo)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (s2VJv)
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This is an old story but one which didn't receive much coverage at the time. I think this tightened a lot of assholes of under the radar derp state operatives.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (y7DUB)
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if not a general moratorium on immigration for a decade.
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I'd recommend two generations before we even thought of immigration again. And remove that Socialist Poem on the Statue of Liberty. Fucking graffiti.
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I'd recommend two generations before we even thought of immigration again. And remove that Socialist Poem on the Statue of Liberty. Fucking graffiti.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (Bm2ax)
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Hey Senator Alexander-
Riddle me this: if TVA doesn't get taxpayer dollars, why the FUCK does it have Special Agents who investigative the programs and operations of TVA- as doe other Special Agents in various Federal Department Office of Inspectors General?
Posted by: Secret Squirrel
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The Post Office also swears up and down they aren't subsidized by the taxpayer.
If that's true, why do they keep asking for a bailout?
All of these are floated by the taxpayer, I'm not even sure why we need the TVA anymore, just shows that government agencies are the closest thing to immortality in this life.
Riddle me this: if TVA doesn't get taxpayer dollars, why the FUCK does it have Special Agents who investigative the programs and operations of TVA- as doe other Special Agents in various Federal Department Office of Inspectors General?
Posted by: Secret Squirrel
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The Post Office also swears up and down they aren't subsidized by the taxpayer.
If that's true, why do they keep asking for a bailout?
All of these are floated by the taxpayer, I'm not even sure why we need the TVA anymore, just shows that government agencies are the closest thing to immortality in this life.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2020 03:25 PM (gkdnV)
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Trump could get some votes in Silicon Valley if he highlighted the H1B stuff more to tech workers who are very SJW and Democrat. The execs love cheap Indian labor. American coders - the few that remain - dont. .
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (ha6Lb)
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It's especially bad over time. At the beginning of a company's experiments with the program, an H-1B earns about the same as his American counterpart. When there is time for a layoff, though, the Americans go. The H-1B won't complain, because when he loses his job, he has a short time to get a new one or the visa invalidates and he has to go home. He doesn't want to go home, so he'll take a pay cut or forgo raises and bonuses. When the next cycle comes, he might get laid off, and then the heat is on to get another job. He'll accept a lower wage if he has to, to stay in the country.
Repeat that a few dozen times across an industry, and you get wage compression and majority non-native staff.
When I go to my HQ, the only indications that you're not in South or East Asia is that the place is scrupulously clean and most people are speaking something that approaches English.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (ha6Lb)
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It's especially bad over time. At the beginning of a company's experiments with the program, an H-1B earns about the same as his American counterpart. When there is time for a layoff, though, the Americans go. The H-1B won't complain, because when he loses his job, he has a short time to get a new one or the visa invalidates and he has to go home. He doesn't want to go home, so he'll take a pay cut or forgo raises and bonuses. When the next cycle comes, he might get laid off, and then the heat is on to get another job. He'll accept a lower wage if he has to, to stay in the country.
Repeat that a few dozen times across an industry, and you get wage compression and majority non-native staff.
When I go to my HQ, the only indications that you're not in South or East Asia is that the place is scrupulously clean and most people are speaking something that approaches English.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2020 03:25 PM (hYcqw)
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Comedic Nonsense Network -- Contrary to his predictions, President Trump won't have a coronavirus
vaccine ready by Election Day, vaccine experts tell CNN after reviewing
data from Moderna, the first company to begin its Phase 3 clinical
trials of a coronavirus vaccine in the United States.
vaccine ready by Election Day, vaccine experts tell CNN after reviewing
data from Moderna, the first company to begin its Phase 3 clinical
trials of a coronavirus vaccine in the United States.
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2020 03:25 PM (3aI0K)
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Why is the TVA still in existence? It's mandate has been met and they should be dissolved and their assets turned over to the Army Corps of Engineers as originally envisioned.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:25 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2020 03:25 PM (s2VJv)
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This is the country club republican romney/bush clone party we've always been stereotyped as being but that rank and file republicans have always hated and despised.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Singing REO Speedwagon in a Manly Manner at August 10, 2020 03:25 PM (+dsLj)
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President Donald Trump said Monday that he had fired the chair of the Tennessee Valley Authority
He fired the chair? Where will people sit then?
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The TVA like all government programs has decided to spend $2,000 a desk for standing desks for all our employees. We at the government feel the health benefits will save us more than enough money over the lifetime of covering an employee to justify this one time expense of $4,000. That is 2,000 per desk, $1,000 to remove the old desk, and another $1,000 of graft just thrown around.
- The TVA and the government.
He fired the chair? Where will people sit then?
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The TVA like all government programs has decided to spend $2,000 a desk for standing desks for all our employees. We at the government feel the health benefits will save us more than enough money over the lifetime of covering an employee to justify this one time expense of $4,000. That is 2,000 per desk, $1,000 to remove the old desk, and another $1,000 of graft just thrown around.
- The TVA and the government.
Posted by: SH at August 10, 2020 03:26 PM (sX1BW)
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Lamar has always seemed like a kind of useless man, honestly.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (A5zUN)
Not completely useless.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (A5zUN)
Not completely useless.
Posted by: The Flannel Industrial Complex at August 10, 2020 03:26 PM (hku12)
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I'd like to see the H-1B program reduced by 90%, if not a general moratorium on immigration for a decade. The H-1B program exists for a reason, but that hasn't applied in a very long time if ever.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (hYcqw)
Indeed, it needs to be a tap.
If there is a screaming labor shortage, yeah, I can see having it around. If not, well, it's only right that we take care of our own. And I like legal immigration, one half of me comes from a legal immigrant. I like inflicting brain drain on other countries and bringing them in here. But if the immigration is not going to benefit both parties, what's the point?
The H1-B thing has been abused like mad.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (hYcqw)
Indeed, it needs to be a tap.
If there is a screaming labor shortage, yeah, I can see having it around. If not, well, it's only right that we take care of our own. And I like legal immigration, one half of me comes from a legal immigrant. I like inflicting brain drain on other countries and bringing them in here. But if the immigration is not going to benefit both parties, what's the point?
The H1-B thing has been abused like mad.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:26 PM (ejsiI)
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He fired the chair? Where will people sit then?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (zrukV)
__________
In the end, there can only be one in the Assness Chair.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (zrukV)
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In the end, there can only be one in the Assness Chair.
Posted by: ShainS at August 10, 2020 03:26 PM (o9UFo)
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Of course Schumer is demanding an investigation
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2020 03:26 PM (Zmnko)
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I interviewed for a TVA job once. Not kidding, it had an open bar.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2020 03:26 PM (1ISKN)
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I'm coming around to the idea that republicans are almost as bad as democrats.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 10, 2020 03:26 PM (pw+jk)
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Snippage
They use the program to price out American
workers and compress wages. When that fails, they just outsource it. It
is endemic. I am glad Trump at least threw down in one small area where
he has the authority. Beyond that requires cooperation with Congress,
and he'll never get it.
I'd like to see the H-1B program reduced by 90%, if not a general
moratorium on immigration for a decade. The H-1B program exists for a
reason, but that hasn't applied in a very long time if ever.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
I'd like to see the H1B and illegal immigration done away with. Both of these are the biggest detrimental pressures that suppress wages for American workers.
Snippage
They use the program to price out American
workers and compress wages. When that fails, they just outsource it. It
is endemic. I am glad Trump at least threw down in one small area where
he has the authority. Beyond that requires cooperation with Congress,
and he'll never get it.
I'd like to see the H-1B program reduced by 90%, if not a general
moratorium on immigration for a decade. The H-1B program exists for a
reason, but that hasn't applied in a very long time if ever.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
I'd like to see the H1B and illegal immigration done away with. Both of these are the biggest detrimental pressures that suppress wages for American workers.
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 10, 2020 03:27 PM (qZdIZ)
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And I doubt consumer prices were falling even killing that sort of 'muh capitalism' defence.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2020 03:27 PM (an7Mv)
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Trump could get some votes in Silicon Valley if he highlighted the H1B stuff more to tech workers who are very SJW and Democrat. The execs love cheap Indian labor. American coders - the few that remain - dont. .
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (ha6Lb)
If the "American" liberals who keep funding BLM and Antifa don't get their heads straight, let the immigrants take their jobs. Let the doctors come from India, if Faucism is the alternative. Let the Hollywood executives come from China. And let the lawyers be driven into the desert to starve.
Let every profession that betrays the American people know: NONE of you are safe, if you keep this up.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:19 PM (ha6Lb)
If the "American" liberals who keep funding BLM and Antifa don't get their heads straight, let the immigrants take their jobs. Let the doctors come from India, if Faucism is the alternative. Let the Hollywood executives come from China. And let the lawyers be driven into the desert to starve.
Let every profession that betrays the American people know: NONE of you are safe, if you keep this up.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2020 03:27 PM (Wd/c5)
65
This outrageous overreach on the part of President Trump only highlights the massive power consolidated in the executive branch. We must elect Joe Biden to make sure the country returns to a proper, centrist order.
Posted by: Lil' Ben Shapiro at August 10, 2020 03:27 PM (wedPR)
66
Not completely useless.
Posted by: The Flannel Industrial Complex at August 10, 2020 03:26 PM (hku12)
He even made the cover of LL Bean holiday issue!
Posted by: The Flannel Industrial Complex at August 10, 2020 03:26 PM (hku12)
He even made the cover of LL Bean holiday issue!
Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2020 03:27 PM (DJFLF)
67
49: I think we should have a Constitutional amendment repealing Article I, Sec 8, Clause 7. Privatize the post office.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:27 PM (ejsiI)
68
Bizarre Alexander was almost as worthless as that other RINO piece of shit, Bob "Iran Deal" Corker. The Tennessee GOP must be completely at odds with their base, unfortunately.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2020 03:27 PM (y7DUB)
69
Bravo!
Posted by: A lotta nerve at August 10, 2020 03:27 PM (svr7j)
70
why the hell isn't there a fat excise tax on every H1-B visa?
Posted by: x at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (nFwvY)
71
Considering Angel of Death Cuomo's hard-on to fuck with interstate commerce, maybe we can do away with another FDR dinosaur, the ICC?
Considering Angel of Death Cuomo's hard-on to fuck with interstate commerce, maybe we can do away with another FDR dinosaur, the ICC?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (s2VJv)
72
Trump could get some votes in Silicon Valley if he highlighted the H1B stuff more to tech workers who are very SJW and Democrat.
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No.
They'd rather starve than vote for a Republican
And fuck 'em. It ain't like they have any other skills.
#LearnToFarm
They voted for that, they should get it good and hard.
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No.
They'd rather starve than vote for a Republican
And fuck 'em. It ain't like they have any other skills.
#LearnToFarm
They voted for that, they should get it good and hard.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (aO8Gd)
73
TVA and Sen Lamar Fat-ass : "hey, enjoy all that cheap electricity will you sit at home unemployed, chumps. You're welcome!"
Nope, you see, paying laid off people unemployment actually costs taxpayers, Lamar.
Nope, you see, paying laid off people unemployment actually costs taxpayers, Lamar.
Posted by: Boswell at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (w2LAm)
74
OT, but the number of people pissing and moaning about the payroll tax holiday is killing me.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (Ez6QX)
75
Charge the managers with immigration fraud - the whole point of the visa
the foreign workers are on is because local workers are not available
with the needed skills.
^^This^^
They've been screwing Americans over for so long that it's been forgotten that foreign workers were supposed to supplement the workforce, not supplant it.
the foreign workers are on is because local workers are not available
with the needed skills.
^^This^^
They've been screwing Americans over for so long that it's been forgotten that foreign workers were supposed to supplement the workforce, not supplant it.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (SchxB)
76
The H-1B problem would be easy to solve. While not a perfect solution, it can be controlled through pay scale. H-1Bs are supposed to be premium people with remarkable skills. People who are good are paid for it. It is unusual for an H-1B to have a job that no one else has (e.g., something new). If you have an H-1B who is "Software Engineer IV," for example, they should be paid 150% of your average "Software Engineer IV" wage. If they're that good, they should be paid. If it is a new position at your firm, then they should have to earn 150% of the prevailing wage for the job in your geographic area.
This would put an end to H-1B abuse quickly, and still allow the best and brightest to come in. It could still be gamed, but it would be a HUGE improvement.
This would put an end to H-1B abuse quickly, and still allow the best and brightest to come in. It could still be gamed, but it would be a HUGE improvement.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (hYcqw)
77
I can't blame them for wanting to come here instead of remaining in
Hyderabad, but Silicon Valley in cahoots with the chamber of commerce
have found their sweet spot. CA is all about importing brown people to
do their bidding.
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Its not even slave labor. We pay them. Sure their Visa (thus ability to live in the US) is tethered to this job that we sponsored for them, so they can try to find a new employer, but may run the risk of being kicked out since they are a legal alien. So we don't have to pay them much.
Its just good business
- Tech and non-Tech companies
Hyderabad, but Silicon Valley in cahoots with the chamber of commerce
have found their sweet spot. CA is all about importing brown people to
do their bidding.
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Its not even slave labor. We pay them. Sure their Visa (thus ability to live in the US) is tethered to this job that we sponsored for them, so they can try to find a new employer, but may run the risk of being kicked out since they are a legal alien. So we don't have to pay them much.
Its just good business
- Tech and non-Tech companies
Posted by: SH at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (sX1BW)
78
68 Bizarre Alexander was almost as worthless as that other RINO piece of shit, Bob "Iran Deal" Corker. The Tennessee GOP must be completely at odds with their base, unfortunately.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2020 03:27 PM (y7DUB)
I imagine it must be the proximity to the Gore family.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2020 03:27 PM (y7DUB)
I imagine it must be the proximity to the Gore family.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (s2VJv)
79
But how will the Republican party reach out to Latino voters if we don't fire American workers and replace them with imported workers?
Posted by: Jeb! at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (wedPR)
Don't forget us China workers, Team Bush!
Posted by: Jeb! at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (wedPR)
Don't forget us China workers, Team Bush!
Posted by: Prease Crap at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (hku12)
80
If Lamar could ascend even halfway to useless, it would be require a space rocket.
Posted by: Gilded Age II, now with comprehensive surveillance, backstabbing Republicans, and fake science! at August 10, 2020 03:29 PM (BRkq2)
81
The whole H1 visa fraud should be shut down, it would be such a vote getter for Republicans.
I don't believe for one minute there aren't enough engineers here, they just don't want to pay them a real salary.
Even if you do need "more" engineers, keep them over in there home country. They never leave once they get here, you don't need a visa for someone to do the work in India.
I don't believe for one minute there aren't enough engineers here, they just don't want to pay them a real salary.
Even if you do need "more" engineers, keep them over in there home country. They never leave once they get here, you don't need a visa for someone to do the work in India.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2020 03:29 PM (gkdnV)
82
If they need a specialized skillset we don't have then by all means, go sponsor an H-1B and get him.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Fuck that shit. Find a competent American and train him.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Fuck that shit. Find a competent American and train him.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2020 03:29 PM (U3fW+)
83
But what about the sweet CCP graft!
Posted by: Establishment Commissar Hrothgar -YOU are all in this together!- at August 10, 2020 03:30 PM (eTZoJ)
84
The execs love cheap Indian labor. American coders - the few that remain - dont. .
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Working in an industry that relies on good coding, i have to fire anyone whose name even remotely sounds Indian. Worst fucking incompetent coders I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with.
In fact the only ones worse was an american coder with fuck all knowledge of basic, clean coding who was (you'll never believe this) an avid watcher of CNN. Bye.
After the great unfuckening and firing of stupid politically correct coders the only ones I have on retainer left are american or israeli coders. Clearly this makes me a nazi.
******************
Working in an industry that relies on good coding, i have to fire anyone whose name even remotely sounds Indian. Worst fucking incompetent coders I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with.
In fact the only ones worse was an american coder with fuck all knowledge of basic, clean coding who was (you'll never believe this) an avid watcher of CNN. Bye.
After the great unfuckening and firing of stupid politically correct coders the only ones I have on retainer left are american or israeli coders. Clearly this makes me a nazi.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Singing REO Speedwagon in a Manly Manner at August 10, 2020 03:30 PM (+dsLj)
85
The Post Office also swears up and down they aren't subsidized by the taxpayer.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2020 03:25 PM (gkdnV)
Blago-
you wanna hear something really infuriating? The Post Office used to be policed by Postal Inspectors- and they still are to some degree. PIs usually handle the big external felonies that affect the Post Office- bomb threats, anthrax in the mail etc.
The juice that the Postal Employees Union emits could dim a star. So many postal employees were going out on disability they created the USPS OIG to combat the fraudulent disability and mental health costs. The Postal OIG alone recoups serious cash based upon their investigations where they prove false medical claims- very similar to the VA-OIG.
USPS OIG also investigate more traditional stuff like postmasters stealing mail, drugs in the mail etc.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2020 03:25 PM (gkdnV)
Blago-
you wanna hear something really infuriating? The Post Office used to be policed by Postal Inspectors- and they still are to some degree. PIs usually handle the big external felonies that affect the Post Office- bomb threats, anthrax in the mail etc.
The juice that the Postal Employees Union emits could dim a star. So many postal employees were going out on disability they created the USPS OIG to combat the fraudulent disability and mental health costs. The Postal OIG alone recoups serious cash based upon their investigations where they prove false medical claims- very similar to the VA-OIG.
USPS OIG also investigate more traditional stuff like postmasters stealing mail, drugs in the mail etc.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 10, 2020 03:30 PM (1+Jvs)
86
Sen Lamar Alexander, R. Tenn, said the TVA doesn't get any taxpayer money and defended the CEO's salary
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He also silently defended the campaign contributions from the man.
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He also silently defended the campaign contributions from the man.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 10, 2020 03:30 PM (kA3Cp)
87
"Yes, we did promise to hire hillbillies at the TVA -- we simply expanded the definition to include Himalayan Hillbillies."
Posted by: zombie at August 10, 2020 03:30 PM (HEEq1)
88
Lamar is not useless to the Democrats.
Posted by: Gilded Age II, now with comprehensive surveillance, backstabbing Republicans, and fake science! at August 10, 2020 03:30 PM (BRkq2)
89
If we were to thoroughly kill illegal immigration through a whole host of means: checking people, coming AND going, with exit visas (to prevent illegal overstays), a wall on the southern border, and hell, who knows, maybe even the northern border, at this rate, and otherwise becoming a serious country (the United States is simply not a serious country), you would indeed see a goodly wage rise for those on the bottom end of pay scales.
If the U.S.Chamber of Commerce wants to whine about our labor laws, they can work to change them like anyone else, instead of supporting the illegal importation of people in order to skirt them.
If the U.S.Chamber of Commerce wants to whine about our labor laws, they can work to change them like anyone else, instead of supporting the illegal importation of people in order to skirt them.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:31 PM (ejsiI)
90
Charge the managers with immigration fraud - the whole point of the visa the foreign workers are on is because local workers are not available with the needed skills.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (1g7ch)
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BURNT TOAST 2024
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (1g7ch)
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BURNT TOAST 2024
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 03:31 PM (0KD36)
91
The H-1B problem would be easy to solve. While not a perfect solution, it can be controlled through pay scale. H-1Bs are supposed to be premium people with remarkable skills. People who are good are paid for it. It is unusual for an H-1B to have a job that no one else has (e.g., something new). If you have an H-1B who is "Software Engineer IV," for example, they should be paid 150% of your average "Software Engineer IV" wage. If they're that good, they should be paid. If it is a new position at your firm, then they should have to earn 150% of the prevailing wage for the job in your geographic area.
This would put an end to H-1B abuse quickly, and still allow the best and brightest to come in. It could still be gamed, but it would be a HUGE improvement.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Yes, AND~!
The employer should be required to train a native-born high school student to do the job at the same time.
And...
This would put an end to H-1B abuse quickly, and still allow the best and brightest to come in. It could still be gamed, but it would be a HUGE improvement.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Yes, AND~!
The employer should be required to train a native-born high school student to do the job at the same time.
And...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2020 03:31 PM (vIxqx)
92
Donald Trump puts America first, and more importantly he puts American workers first.
Reason #1 why I voted for him and will again.
Reason #1 why I voted for him and will again.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 10, 2020 03:31 PM (FtO5h)
93
This is no way to conduct utility business!
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2020 03:31 PM (an7Mv)
94
hey, replacing Americans with H1B foreigners was good enough for the Disney corporate IT department, so it is good enough for TVA!
hey, replacing Americans with H1B foreigners was good enough for the Disney corporate IT department, so it is good enough for TVA!
Posted by: ChinaCrats everywhere at August 10, 2020 03:31 PM (sy5kK)
95
I have had to work with many of the H1B visa holders. They are generally worthless - it takes 5 to do the work of a decent programmer.
Posted by: Chicago Vota at August 10, 2020 03:31 PM (WVSR6)
96
>>> These guys come over here, 5 live in one 2 bedroom apartment, they send the money back to the family, and, if they get promoted enough will fly the wife & kids out to join them. They might even all go in on a house together.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (8B6Ng)
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My wife is in the tech field and worked with many H-1B workers. She can firm the above statement as true. And the ones that work remote from their home country to it for only a third of what they pay a us citizen.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM (8B6Ng)
=====
My wife is in the tech field and worked with many H-1B workers. She can firm the above statement as true. And the ones that work remote from their home country to it for only a third of what they pay a us citizen.
Posted by: Up and In at August 10, 2020 03:32 PM (zobNa)
97
Worse than H1b is the L1 visa. This where Indian companies set up shop and wink wink transfer their employees to the US. Then those employees can stay here forever wand unlike h1b there is no annual limit. This is how Infosys can take over the entire IT operation of a Fortune 500 company overnight.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:32 PM (ha6Lb)
98
Find a competent American and train him.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2020 03:29 PM (U3fW+)
Companies used to do that all of the time. Then they followed the MBA plan of gutting businesses by creating a mercenary environment. They complained after that the employees weren't loyal.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2020 03:29 PM (U3fW+)
Companies used to do that all of the time. Then they followed the MBA plan of gutting businesses by creating a mercenary environment. They complained after that the employees weren't loyal.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at August 10, 2020 03:32 PM (J70i0)
99
85: The Postal Inspectors, IIRC, are the oldest fed law enforcement agency in the country.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:32 PM (ejsiI)
100
The TVA like all government programs has decided to spend $2,000 a desk for standing desks for all our employees. We at the government feel the health benefits will save us more than enough money over the lifetime of covering an employee to justify this one time expense of $4,000. That is 2,000 per desk, $1,000 to remove the old desk, and another $1,000 of graft just thrown around.
- The TVA and the government.
Posted by: SH at August 10, 2020 03:26 PM (sX1BW)
__________
I'm a contract courier for the VA, and I can attest to this. Beginning a couple years ago, I had to haul several of these heavy sit-stand desks each month to VA clinic employees -- who used them for a week or two like any fad, then stopped.
- The TVA and the government.
Posted by: SH at August 10, 2020 03:26 PM (sX1BW)
__________
I'm a contract courier for the VA, and I can attest to this. Beginning a couple years ago, I had to haul several of these heavy sit-stand desks each month to VA clinic employees -- who used them for a week or two like any fad, then stopped.
Posted by: ShainS at August 10, 2020 03:32 PM (6OGMR)
101
Chamber of Commerce is a foreign combatant.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2020 03:32 PM (CD5Uk)
102
Charge the managers with immigration fraud - the whole point of the visa
the foreign workers are on is because local workers are not available
with the needed skills.
--
This is spot on.
the foreign workers are on is because local workers are not available
with the needed skills.
--
This is spot on.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 10, 2020 03:33 PM (kA3Cp)
103
>.I don't believe for one minute there aren't enough engineers here, they just don't want to pay them a real salary.
Same.
But also, in a way, this enables universities to keep churning out useless degrees.
If we don't have enough college graduates with a skill set for a given profession (positioned to gain further work experience to eventually fill upper-tier positions) then this is a sign that out education system is out of synch with the current demands of the job market. Supplementing/supplanting with foreigners provides cover for them.
Same.
But also, in a way, this enables universities to keep churning out useless degrees.
If we don't have enough college graduates with a skill set for a given profession (positioned to gain further work experience to eventually fill upper-tier positions) then this is a sign that out education system is out of synch with the current demands of the job market. Supplementing/supplanting with foreigners provides cover for them.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:33 PM (bDqIh)
104
"Yes, we did promise to hire hillbillies at the TVA -- we simply expanded the definition to include Himalayan Hillbillies."
Posted by: zombie at August 10, 2020 03:30 PM (HEEq1)
I saw the Himalayan Hillbillies open for the Ural Mountain Ukaleleers at Red Rocks in '89.
Posted by: zombie at August 10, 2020 03:30 PM (HEEq1)
I saw the Himalayan Hillbillies open for the Ural Mountain Ukaleleers at Red Rocks in '89.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:34 PM (hku12)
105
I just remember getting a taste of this decades ago when an CAD engineer that should have been paid closer to 6 figures was working in our office for around $10 an hour from Pakistan. And thought he had won the lottery.
So who on Earth is going to pursue that path if they know they will be competing for fast food wages?
So who on Earth is going to pursue that path if they know they will be competing for fast food wages?
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2020 03:34 PM (gkdnV)
106
>> Worse than H1b is the L1 visa. This where Indian companies set up shop and wink wink transfer their employees to the US. Then those employees can stay here forever wand unlike h1b there is no annual limit. This is how Infosys can take over the entire IT operation of a Fortune 500 company overnight.
Yikes
Yikes
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:34 PM (bDqIh)
107
Out: Republicans oppose wage limits for CEOs
In: Republicans urge wage limits for CEOs
It's an odd world.
In: Republicans urge wage limits for CEOs
It's an odd world.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (SpKeo)
108
You'd think the USPS would have a clue about voting by mail and why fraud is a concern.
You'd also be wrong.
You'd also be wrong.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Mostly Peaceful Rioter at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (3H9h1)
109
h1b is like illegal immigration. There is no shortage of American tech workers. There is a shortage of American tech workers willing to work for $30k a year. Just like Americans will do menial labor jobs but not for $5 an hour like an illegal will.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (ha6Lb)
110
Same.
But also, in a way, this enables universities to keep churning out useless degrees.
If we don't have enough college graduates with a skill set for a
given profession (positioned to gain further work experience to
eventually fill upper-tier positions) then this is a sign that out
education system is out of synch with the current demands of the job
market. Supplementing/supplanting with foreigners provides cover for
them.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:33 PM (bDqIh)
===
Be quiet!! You are making too much sense!
But also, in a way, this enables universities to keep churning out useless degrees.
If we don't have enough college graduates with a skill set for a
given profession (positioned to gain further work experience to
eventually fill upper-tier positions) then this is a sign that out
education system is out of synch with the current demands of the job
market. Supplementing/supplanting with foreigners provides cover for
them.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:33 PM (bDqIh)
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Be quiet!! You are making too much sense!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (pw+jk)
111
Can we outsource Congress to zoo animals. Just give them a yes/no box where they can clop a hoof down.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (CD5Uk)
112
Watching that press conference, you could readily see how great these four years would have been without the Republican Party being in league with the Dems.
Posted by: Gilded Age II, now with comprehensive surveillance, backstabbing Republicans, and fake science! at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (BRkq2)
113
Come now, he drove sales of buffalo plaid shirts through the roof during his presidential run.
Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM
I remember the signs Lamar! with the exclamation point.
Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2020 03:24 PM
I remember the signs Lamar! with the exclamation point.
Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (mNhhD)
114
President Donald Trump takes bold action like this one against the TVA
Board. He also makes some flippant tweets. Which one do you think
matters more to Americans who take pride in bringing home a paycheck?
Related: Speaking of Trump tweets, I know a lot here hate "sportsball", but a lot of small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
https://tinyurl.com/y2rmqbss
Board. He also makes some flippant tweets. Which one do you think
matters more to Americans who take pride in bringing home a paycheck?
Related: Speaking of Trump tweets, I know a lot here hate "sportsball", but a lot of small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
https://tinyurl.com/y2rmqbss
Posted by: Bert G at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (OMsf+)
115
72 Trump could get some votes in Silicon Valley if he highlighted the H1B stuff more to tech workers who are very SJW and Democrat.
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No.
They'd rather starve than vote for a Republican
And fuck 'em. It ain't like they have any other skills.
#LearnToFarm
They voted for that, they should get it good and hard.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM
Our farm at CHAZ would've been a model for the world to emulate if you Rethuglican fascists, with you law enforcement boot licking toadies hadn't come in and ruined it all!
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No.
They'd rather starve than vote for a Republican
And fuck 'em. It ain't like they have any other skills.
#LearnToFarm
They voted for that, they should get it good and hard.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM
Our farm at CHAZ would've been a model for the world to emulate if you Rethuglican fascists, with you law enforcement boot licking toadies hadn't come in and ruined it all!
Posted by: Freelance free-spirited silicon valley tech millennial at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM (wedPR)
116
Considering Angel of Death Cuomo's hard-on to fuck with interstate commerce, maybe we can do away with another FDR dinosaur, the ICC?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (s2VJv)
Didn't that go away in 1996?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (s2VJv)
Didn't that go away in 1996?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM (ejsiI)
117
So who on Earth is going to pursue that path if they know they will be competing for fast food wages?
Posted by: Blago
--
Look at the bright side, that is engineering. In manufacturing, companies like Nike and Apple are getting slave labor, one can't really compete with wages of zero.
Posted by: Blago
--
Look at the bright side, that is engineering. In manufacturing, companies like Nike and Apple are getting slave labor, one can't really compete with wages of zero.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM (kA3Cp)
118
You'd think the USPS would have a clue about voting by mail and why fraud is a concern.
You'd also be wrong.
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Wilford Brimley's death has left a void at the USPS that will be tough to fill.
You'd also be wrong.
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Wilford Brimley's death has left a void at the USPS that will be tough to fill.
Posted by: SH at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM (sX1BW)
119
>>I have had to work with many of the H1B visa holders. They are generally worthless - it takes 5 to do the work of a decent programmer.
It'd take ten domestic programmers to smell like one of the H1B holders, though.
Holy crap, can we at least get them some deoderant?
It'd take ten domestic programmers to smell like one of the H1B holders, though.
Holy crap, can we at least get them some deoderant?
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM (4g1Fx)
120
H1B shouldn't even be for a generic unknown foreigner. It's if you know a specific person that you want to hire because they're so damn awesome and you've worked with them in grad school or overseas already... it's not supposed to be about "cheaper labor"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM (uqIlg)
121
Speaking of efficient government servants:
According to the Daily Mail, Chicago DA Kim FOXX has dismissed over 25,000 felony cases during her tenure- including the Smollet hoax, murder arrests and drugs.
And she's just getting started.
According to the Daily Mail, Chicago DA Kim FOXX has dismissed over 25,000 felony cases during her tenure- including the Smollet hoax, murder arrests and drugs.
And she's just getting started.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM (1+Jvs)
122
NPR and the rest of the Marxist jackals promote women in STEM programs while at the same time flak for male-dominated STEM green card immigration.
NPR and the rest of the Marxist jackals promote women in STEM programs while at the same time flak for male-dominated STEM green card immigration.
Posted by: 13times at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (M6Yu0)
123
This is no way to conduct utility business!
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2020 03:31 PM (an7Mv)
I'm shocked... SHOCKED, to see electricity being wasted at this TVA plant.
Your wattage, Sir.
Oh thank you very much.
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2020 03:31 PM (an7Mv)
I'm shocked... SHOCKED, to see electricity being wasted at this TVA plant.
Your wattage, Sir.
Oh thank you very much.
Posted by: Lame R Alexander at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (hku12)
124
In: Republicans urge wage limits for CEOs
It's an odd world.
Republicans have always had a problem with high wages in government jobs. And effectively a utility like this is government.
It's an odd world.
Republicans have always had a problem with high wages in government jobs. And effectively a utility like this is government.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (KZzsI)
125
121 Speaking of efficient government servants:
According to the Daily Mail, Chicago DA Kim FOXX has dismissed over 25,000 felony cases during her tenure- including the Smollet hoax, murder arrests and drugs.
And she's just getting started.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM (1+Jvs)
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The hollowing out of Chicago is going to be interesting to watch.
According to the Daily Mail, Chicago DA Kim FOXX has dismissed over 25,000 felony cases during her tenure- including the Smollet hoax, murder arrests and drugs.
And she's just getting started.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM (1+Jvs)
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The hollowing out of Chicago is going to be interesting to watch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (LvTSG)
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106
>> Worse than H1b is the L1 visa. This where Indian companies set
up shop and wink wink transfer their employees to the US. Then those
employees can stay here forever wand unlike h1b there is no annual
limit. This is how Infosys can take over the entire IT operation of a
Fortune 500 company overnight.
Yikes
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:34 PM (bDqIh)
Liberty Mutual Insurance - yes the one with the emu - hires/contracts with LOTS of Indian people. They live in local hotels, most don't have a drivers license so you see them walking all over.
Another local company, in the education industry worked with an agency to bring in foreign (Indian) IT workers. Some were good, others, well......
>> Worse than H1b is the L1 visa. This where Indian companies set
up shop and wink wink transfer their employees to the US. Then those
employees can stay here forever wand unlike h1b there is no annual
limit. This is how Infosys can take over the entire IT operation of a
Fortune 500 company overnight.
Yikes
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:34 PM (bDqIh)
Liberty Mutual Insurance - yes the one with the emu - hires/contracts with LOTS of Indian people. They live in local hotels, most don't have a drivers license so you see them walking all over.
Another local company, in the education industry worked with an agency to bring in foreign (Indian) IT workers. Some were good, others, well......
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (N39Ws)
127
California governor's public health director resigns
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (3aI0K)
128
Honk honk!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (NWiLs)
129
What do you call the thing that you put wood chips into when you want to have smoke on a grill?
smoke box? smoker box? There is such a thing, right?
smoke box? smoker box? There is such a thing, right?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (vIxqx)
130
Hiss!
Posted by: at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (NWiLs)
131
123
This is no way to conduct utility business!
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2020 03:31 PM (an7Mv)
I'm shocked... SHOCKED, to see electricity being wasted at this TVA plant.
Your wattage, Sir.
Oh thank you very much.
Posted by: Lame R Alexander at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (hku12)
Ohm y these puns are getting bad.
This is no way to conduct utility business!
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2020 03:31 PM (an7Mv)
I'm shocked... SHOCKED, to see electricity being wasted at this TVA plant.
Your wattage, Sir.
Oh thank you very much.
Posted by: Lame R Alexander at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (hku12)
Ohm y these puns are getting bad.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (N39Ws)
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The filthy untouchable American labor that you will be gotten is not to be of first quality. The offense I am feeling is of the most profound nature, yes my friend.
Posted by: Jugdish Butterhead Pramamurthy at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (oYHnE)
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Story link: https://t.co/4aOVjmhOqX?amp=1
According to Michael McCarthy of Front Office Sports, the NFL will not hold any live performances of the national anthem before games this season, and the league could also reduce the presence of military and police honor guards.
The "Star-Spangled Banner" will still be played before the start of each NFL game, McCarthy added, but instead of hosting performers on the field, the league "may ask performers to sing the anthem off-site, then pipe it live inside their stadium," or simply play pre-recorded versions of the song before kickoff.
This isn't expected to be the only change to anthem protocol in 2020. ESPN previously reported that the NFL also plans to play "Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing," traditionally known as the Black anthem, ahead of every Week 1 game across the league.
According to Michael McCarthy of Front Office Sports, the NFL will not hold any live performances of the national anthem before games this season, and the league could also reduce the presence of military and police honor guards.
The "Star-Spangled Banner" will still be played before the start of each NFL game, McCarthy added, but instead of hosting performers on the field, the league "may ask performers to sing the anthem off-site, then pipe it live inside their stadium," or simply play pre-recorded versions of the song before kickoff.
This isn't expected to be the only change to anthem protocol in 2020. ESPN previously reported that the NFL also plans to play "Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing," traditionally known as the Black anthem, ahead of every Week 1 game across the league.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (FBrfY)
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The whole H1 visa fraud should be shut down, it would be such a vote getter for Republicans.
***
The GOPes clients are not the American citizens that vote Republican....which is why they act the way they do.
***
The GOPes clients are not the American citizens that vote Republican....which is why they act the way they do.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (qlFIA)
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Republicans have always had a problem with high wages in government jobs. And effectively a utility like this is government.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (KZzsI)
It's not really a government job. And getting an effective CEO for $500,000 per year may be rather unlikely.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (KZzsI)
It's not really a government job. And getting an effective CEO for $500,000 per year may be rather unlikely.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (SpKeo)
136
Back in 2015 Donald Trump saw this group of voters called "American Labor" that the Democrats had tossed away and said "Vote for me and I'll stand by you; what have you got to lose."
They did and he has. MAGA 2016. KAG 2020.
They did and he has. MAGA 2016. KAG 2020.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Boo Hoo? You Do! Pity Party Supplies at The Outrage Outlet! at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (ElqsY)
137
Do they even issue H1B visas to chicks?
Posted by: Yo! at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (GIeIM)
138
Its not even slave labor. We pay them. Sure their Visa (thus ability to live in the US) is tethered to this job that we sponsored for them, so they can try to find a new employer, but may run the risk of being kicked out since they are a legal alien. So we don't have to pay them much.
Its just good business
Posted by: SH at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (sX1BW)
Like the old days!
Its not even slave labor. We pay them. Sure their Visa (thus ability to live in the US) is tethered to this job that we sponsored for them, so they can try to find a new employer, but may run the risk of being kicked out since they are a legal alien. So we don't have to pay them much.
Its just good business
Posted by: SH at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (sX1BW)
Like the old days!
Posted by: Hyman Roth, who always makes money for his partners at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (sy5kK)
139
Reducing the onerous cost of business through deregulation and cutting the throats of unions is the way to encourage more American hiring. If you're running a business that barely is staying afloat, being able to hire people for a fraction of a cost greatly reduces your biggest expense: personnel. Reduce that effect, and you reduce the pressure to hire outside the USA.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (KZzsI)
140
"The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds
that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe it's likely Biden's running mate
will be president before the end of Biden's four-year term if he wins
this fall, with 39% who say it's Very Likely."
that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe it's likely Biden's running mate
will be president before the end of Biden's four-year term if he wins
this fall, with 39% who say it's Very Likely."
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (JUOKG)
141
Watching that press conference, you could readily see how great these four years would have been without the Republican Party being in league with the Dems.
Posted by: Gilded Age II, now with comprehensive surveillance, backstabbing Republicans, and fake science! at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (BRkq2)
Abolish them both and treat them as part of the same criminal enterprise. Trump would rule better as dictator, like Caesar did.
Posted by: Gilded Age II, now with comprehensive surveillance, backstabbing Republicans, and fake science! at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (BRkq2)
Abolish them both and treat them as part of the same criminal enterprise. Trump would rule better as dictator, like Caesar did.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (Wd/c5)
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This is how Infosys can take over the entire IT operation of a Fortune 500 company overnight.
Another trick Infosys likes to use. Bring in the "A-team" for turn over to make sure the new client gets past the point where they let the techies go. Then bring in the "B-team" who know jack about computers.
Another trick Infosys likes to use. Bring in the "A-team" for turn over to make sure the new client gets past the point where they let the techies go. Then bring in the "B-team" who know jack about computers.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (SchxB)
143
Out: Republicans oppose wage limits for CEOs
In: Republicans urge wage limits for CEOs
It's an odd world.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (SpKeo)
We didn't leave the CEO friendly Gope Party.
The CEO friendly Gope Party left us.
In: Republicans urge wage limits for CEOs
It's an odd world.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (SpKeo)
We didn't leave the CEO friendly Gope Party.
The CEO friendly Gope Party left us.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)
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He fired the chair? Where will people sit then?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (zrukV)
President Trump says standing cures Coronabirus!!!!!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:23 PM (zrukV)
President Trump says standing cures Coronabirus!!!!!
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (QLgXI)
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know a lot here hate "sportsball", but a lot of
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season
in particular, to stay afloat.
https://tinyurl.com/y2rmqbss
Posted by: Bert G at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (OMsf+)
We were just talking about that here. The domino effect of these COVID closings will be just staggering.
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season
in particular, to stay afloat.
https://tinyurl.com/y2rmqbss
Posted by: Bert G at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (OMsf+)
We were just talking about that here. The domino effect of these COVID closings will be just staggering.
Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (DJFLF)
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82 If they need a specialized skillset we don't have then by all means, go sponsor an H-1B and get him.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Fuck that shit. Find a competent American and train him.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2020 03:29 PM (U3fW+)
This.
American kids often avoid STEM subjects because they're difficult, require a lot of work, and employment in them is seen as short-term, as many employers will replace older, experienced engineers and scientists with young, inexperienced (and therefore cheaper) ones. Their reasoning is a scientist is a scientist, an engineer is an engineer. Of course, if they had to have surgery, they'd want the head of surgery at Johns Hopkins, not some newly minted surgeon trying his hand at it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Fuck that shit. Find a competent American and train him.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2020 03:29 PM (U3fW+)
This.
American kids often avoid STEM subjects because they're difficult, require a lot of work, and employment in them is seen as short-term, as many employers will replace older, experienced engineers and scientists with young, inexperienced (and therefore cheaper) ones. Their reasoning is a scientist is a scientist, an engineer is an engineer. Of course, if they had to have surgery, they'd want the head of surgery at Johns Hopkins, not some newly minted surgeon trying his hand at it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (zrukV)
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And the leftoids will say this is an example of Trump becoming a dictator.
I know they think that. My writing group member, the over-70 Bernie-Bro I've written about before, actually said that in an email the other day. I asked him to please skip the anti-Trump stuff, both in deference to me and to the other members, but he sent at least two more emails. I didn't read 'em.
I know they think that. My writing group member, the over-70 Bernie-Bro I've written about before, actually said that in an email the other day. I asked him to please skip the anti-Trump stuff, both in deference to me and to the other members, but he sent at least two more emails. I didn't read 'em.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (rpbg1)
148
So. The TVA labor union had a grievance and the Republican president came out vocally and loudly on the side of the union and then the Republican president criticized the company management.
What timeline have we crossed into?
What timeline have we crossed into?
Posted by: Pouncer at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (Jjybm)
149
OAN - Australians find drug Ivetmectine kills Covid-19, it's a anti parasite medicine.
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2020 03:40 PM (OjZpE)
150
China imposes sanctions on 11 Americans, including Sens. Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton, for "behaving badly on Hong Kong-related issues"
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (3aI0K)
151
140 "The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds
that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe it's likely Biden's running mate
will be president before the end of Biden's four-year term if he wins
this fall, with 39% who say it's Very Likely."
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (JUOKG)
=========
That feels like a recipe for electoral disaster for Democrats.
that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe it's likely Biden's running mate
will be president before the end of Biden's four-year term if he wins
this fall, with 39% who say it's Very Likely."
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (JUOKG)
=========
That feels like a recipe for electoral disaster for Democrats.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (LvTSG)
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106
Yikes indeed. And Id bet 95% of people have never heard of it. It is by far way more serious than h1b. For all the attention h1b gets it is capped at 65k visas a year. For L1 there is no cap. And h1b is not just tech and not just Indian. A lot of professions use h1b like finance. And there is a process to go through that takes time and effort.
L1 on the other hand allows an Indian company to set up a US subsidiary and transfer 1000 of their people over with virtually no effort. Then they get a contract from USA Company X to manage their IT and those 1000 are essentially full time workers for that USA company with the Indian company as a middle man. And just like that 1000 American jobs replaced with Indian jobs. All legal too.
Yikes indeed. And Id bet 95% of people have never heard of it. It is by far way more serious than h1b. For all the attention h1b gets it is capped at 65k visas a year. For L1 there is no cap. And h1b is not just tech and not just Indian. A lot of professions use h1b like finance. And there is a process to go through that takes time and effort.
L1 on the other hand allows an Indian company to set up a US subsidiary and transfer 1000 of their people over with virtually no effort. Then they get a contract from USA Company X to manage their IT and those 1000 are essentially full time workers for that USA company with the Indian company as a middle man. And just like that 1000 American jobs replaced with Indian jobs. All legal too.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (ha6Lb)
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"It's especially bad over time. At the beginning of a company's experiments with the program, an H-1B earns about the same as his American counterpart. When there is time for a layoff, though, the Americans go. The H-1B won't complain, because when he loses his job, he has a short time to get a new one or the visa invalidates and he has to go home. He doesn't want to go home, so he'll take a pay cut or forgo raises and bonuses. When the next cycle comes, he might get laid off, and then the heat is on to get another job. He'll accept a lower wage if he has to, to stay in the country.
"Repeat that a few dozen times across an industry, and you get wage compression and majority non-native staff."
You say that someone "has to go home" when the visa invalidates. But do they? How will anyone know if he/she overstayed the visa? Once in, they can stay as long as they want.
"Repeat that a few dozen times across an industry, and you get wage compression and majority non-native staff."
You say that someone "has to go home" when the visa invalidates. But do they? How will anyone know if he/she overstayed the visa? Once in, they can stay as long as they want.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (ejsiI)
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>>know a lot here hate "sportsball", but a lot of
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
It will hurt the colleges more. Fuck it.
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
It will hurt the colleges more. Fuck it.
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (4g1Fx)
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Hiss!
Posted by: [] at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (NWiLs)
Alger!
Hey no fair, you opened your eyes.
Posted by: [] at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (NWiLs)
Alger!
Hey no fair, you opened your eyes.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (hku12)
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>>Related: Speaking of Trump tweets, I know a lot here hate "sportsball", but a lot of small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
https://tinyurl.com/y2rmqbss
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Think the upside is that it helps destroy universities?
Mentioned earlier that 40% of Harvard's incoming freshman class has deferred. Would guess cancelling college sports will inspire others to skip this year rather than pay full tuition for roughly 25% of the college experience.
How many admin staff can higher ed support without any sports revenue and a large portion of students taking the year off?
https://tinyurl.com/y2rmqbss
- - -
Think the upside is that it helps destroy universities?
Mentioned earlier that 40% of Harvard's incoming freshman class has deferred. Would guess cancelling college sports will inspire others to skip this year rather than pay full tuition for roughly 25% of the college experience.
How many admin staff can higher ed support without any sports revenue and a large portion of students taking the year off?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (bDqIh)
157
74 OT, but the number of people pissing and moaning about the payroll tax holiday is killing me.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (Ez6QX)
Must be democrats
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (Ez6QX)
Must be democrats
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (nd/mG)
158
149 OAN - Australians find drug Ivetmectine kills Covid-19, it's a anti parasite medicine
iVETmectine?Is that a dog wormer?
iVETmectine?Is that a dog wormer?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (Zmnko)
159
I have a question: why don't companies outsource HR crap, instead of hiring purple-haired SJW lesbos with Womyns' Studies degrees?
Doing that would rein in the rampant leftist rubbish of said purple-haired lesbos; if they're engaged as consultants, they would under a lot of pressure to keep their noses clean.
Doing that would rein in the rampant leftist rubbish of said purple-haired lesbos; if they're engaged as consultants, they would under a lot of pressure to keep their noses clean.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (zrukV)
160
"The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds
that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe it's likely Biden's running mate
will be president before the end of Biden's four-year term if he wins
this fall, with 39% who say it's Very Likely."
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (JUOKG)
=========
That feels like a recipe for electoral disaster for Democrats.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM
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And it is a likely voter poll.
that 59% of Likely U.S. Voters believe it's likely Biden's running mate
will be president before the end of Biden's four-year term if he wins
this fall, with 39% who say it's Very Likely."
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (JUOKG)
=========
That feels like a recipe for electoral disaster for Democrats.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM
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And it is a likely voter poll.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (JUOKG)
161
156 Think the upside is that it helps destroy universities?
Mentioned earlier that 40% of Harvard's incoming freshman class has deferred. Would guess cancelling college sports will inspire others to skip this year rather than pay full tuition for roughly 25% of the college experience.
How many admin staff can higher ed support without any sports revenue and a large portion of students taking the year off?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (bDqIh)
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The left's efforts to destroy Trump are going to greatly weaken some of their most valuable institutions.
Mentioned earlier that 40% of Harvard's incoming freshman class has deferred. Would guess cancelling college sports will inspire others to skip this year rather than pay full tuition for roughly 25% of the college experience.
How many admin staff can higher ed support without any sports revenue and a large portion of students taking the year off?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (bDqIh)
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The left's efforts to destroy Trump are going to greatly weaken some of their most valuable institutions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (LvTSG)
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>>He fired the chair? Where will people sit then?
According to the President, "I watch Gorillas all day. They don't need chairs.".
According to the President, "I watch Gorillas all day. They don't need chairs.".
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (4g1Fx)
163
Rush brought up no college football the tv money deficit will be staggering but no 100,000 fans moving into a small town will hurt businesses.
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (OjZpE)
164
What timeline have we crossed into?
Posted by: Pouncer at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM
We're in "now" now. Everything that happens now, is happening now.
Posted by: Pouncer at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM
We're in "now" now. Everything that happens now, is happening now.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (ejd/p)
165
For once I'm *actually* just spitballing but I sincerely wonder if the planned Biden VP pick backed out and left them scrambling. Think about what they are going to have to go through, only to be part of a losing ticket...
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (QLgXI)
166
China imposes sanctions on 11 Americans, including Sens. Marco Rubio,
Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton, for "behaving badly on Hong Kong-related
issues"
How do I get on that list?
Ted Cruz and Tom Cotton, for "behaving badly on Hong Kong-related
issues"
How do I get on that list?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (SchxB)
167
119 >>
It'd take ten domestic programmers to smell like one of the H1B holders, though.
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM
We're the reason he said domestic programmers and not just any Americans.
It'd take ten domestic programmers to smell like one of the H1B holders, though.
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM
We're the reason he said domestic programmers and not just any Americans.
Posted by: Michael Moore, Sandra Fluke, TriggleyPuff and Hillary! at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (wedPR)
168
I'd like to see government employees replaced by minimum wage H1-Bs.
Posted by: x at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (nFwvY)
169
We didn't leave the CEO friendly Gope Party.
The CEO friendly Gope Party left us.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)
My point is that what we are witnessing is a massive political upheaval.
You don't support the right of someone to make money based upon their electoral preferences. Govt shouldn't dictate salaries to companies - full stop. Is this no longer the position of Republicans? Are we the party of Barney Frank now?
The CEO friendly Gope Party left us.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)
My point is that what we are witnessing is a massive political upheaval.
You don't support the right of someone to make money based upon their electoral preferences. Govt shouldn't dictate salaries to companies - full stop. Is this no longer the position of Republicans? Are we the party of Barney Frank now?
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (SpKeo)
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Do they even issue H1B visas to chicks?
Posted by: Yo! at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (GIeIM)
++++++++
Oh, yes.
Posted by: Yo! at August 10, 2020 03:38 PM (GIeIM)
++++++++
Oh, yes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (hYcqw)
171
California governor's public health director resigns
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (3aI0K)
.........
citing toxic work environment due to overuse of Men's Hair Products.
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2020 03:37 PM (3aI0K)
.........
citing toxic work environment due to overuse of Men's Hair Products.
Posted by: wth at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (v0R5T)
172
You know, if we stopped immigration we wouldn't need HUD either. We could probably close some prisons as well.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (Bm2ax)
173
You'd think the USPS would have a clue about voting by mail and why fraud is a concern.
You'd also be wrong.
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Is hilarious watching the kiddies freak out.
"Trump is taking over the Post Office!"
"Trump is going to disrupt vote-by-mail!"
If only there was some, decentralized way to go and vote, where you could vote in private and personally turn in your vote to be counted.
Oh well. Guess Trump is going to steal the election then.
You'd also be wrong.
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Is hilarious watching the kiddies freak out.
"Trump is taking over the Post Office!"
"Trump is going to disrupt vote-by-mail!"
If only there was some, decentralized way to go and vote, where you could vote in private and personally turn in your vote to be counted.
Oh well. Guess Trump is going to steal the election then.
Posted by: RoyalOil at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (aO8Gd)
174
OAN - Australians find drug Ivetmectine kills Covid-19, it's a anti parasite medicine
So it'll get my ex out of my wallet?
So it'll get my ex out of my wallet?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (NWiLs)
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That feels like a recipe for electoral disaster for Democrats.
On the contrary... They think it's safe to vote for Biden because he will be replaced quickly by a real socialist
That feels like a recipe for electoral disaster for Democrats.
On the contrary... They think it's safe to vote for Biden because he will be replaced quickly by a real socialist
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (Zmnko)
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These people have no problem lying and power is appealing, but for 90 days they are going to have to pretend over and over that the dude isn't pure vegetable matter.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (QLgXI)
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143 Out: Republicans oppose wage limits for CEOs
In: Republicans urge wage limits for CEOs
It's an odd world.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (SpKeo)
We didn't leave the CEO friendly Gope Party.
The CEO friendly Gope Party left us.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)
The same people who shriek about how horrible it is for CEOs to make a buck are oddly mute when it comes to grossly overpaid city managers and school superintendents (for just two examples). The last two, unlike CEOs, can and do take your money at the point of a gun.
In: Republicans urge wage limits for CEOs
It's an odd world.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (SpKeo)
We didn't leave the CEO friendly Gope Party.
The CEO friendly Gope Party left us.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)
The same people who shriek about how horrible it is for CEOs to make a buck are oddly mute when it comes to grossly overpaid city managers and school superintendents (for just two examples). The last two, unlike CEOs, can and do take your money at the point of a gun.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (ejsiI)
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (Bm2ax)
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That feels like a recipe for electoral disaster for Democrats.
On the contrary... They think it's safe to vote for Biden because he will be replaced quickly by a real socialist
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (Zmnko)
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You say that like only radical leftists vote for Democrats.
That feels like a recipe for electoral disaster for Democrats.
On the contrary... They think it's safe to vote for Biden because he will be replaced quickly by a real socialist
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (Zmnko)
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You say that like only radical leftists vote for Democrats.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (LvTSG)
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You say that someone "has to go home" when the visa invalidates. But do they? How will anyone know if he/she overstayed the visa? Once in, they can stay as long as they want.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (ejsiI)
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Sure, they can. But if they want to work in their field at the comparatively high wage (as compared to an illegal alien), they can't. In my industry (high tech), I have never worked for a firm that *didn't* use e-verify and take immigration paperwork seriously. It probably does happen, but I've never seen it.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (ejsiI)
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Sure, they can. But if they want to work in their field at the comparatively high wage (as compared to an illegal alien), they can't. In my industry (high tech), I have never worked for a firm that *didn't* use e-verify and take immigration paperwork seriously. It probably does happen, but I've never seen it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (hYcqw)
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165 For once I'm *actually* just spitballing but I sincerely wonder if the planned Biden VP pick backed out and left them scrambling. Think about what they are going to have to go through, only to be part of a losing ticket...
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (QLgXI)
It's either that or they are just floating trial balloons like with Rice. Trying to find one that nudges the meter upwards overall.
Decisive! Brave!
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (QLgXI)
It's either that or they are just floating trial balloons like with Rice. Trying to find one that nudges the meter upwards overall.
Decisive! Brave!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (A5zUN)
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OAN - Australians find drug Ivetmectine kills Covid-19, it's a anti parasite medicine.
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2020 03:40 PM (OjZpE)
.......
They also put beetroots on hamburgers.
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2020 03:40 PM (OjZpE)
.......
They also put beetroots on hamburgers.
Posted by: wth at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (v0R5T)
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know a lot here hate "sportsball", but a lot of
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
It will hurt the colleges more. Fuck it.
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM
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Some Schools would fold if they did not have sports that pays the bills.
Tuition would skyrocket and enrollment would plummet if University of Kentucky lost their College basketball income.
It's literally a billion dollar business.
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
It will hurt the colleges more. Fuck it.
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM
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Some Schools would fold if they did not have sports that pays the bills.
Tuition would skyrocket and enrollment would plummet if University of Kentucky lost their College basketball income.
It's literally a billion dollar business.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (JUOKG)
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Ivermectin is a generic medicine?
It doesn't work against the COVIDs. Don't ask. It just doesn't. Because science.
It doesn't work against the COVIDs. Don't ask. It just doesn't. Because science.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (0KD36)
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It's not really a government job. And getting an effective CEO for $500,000 per year may be rather unlikely.
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One doesn't have to be an economically illiterate leftwing idiot to notice that CEO salaries are generally too high.
It looks like the CEO was paid about .1% of the company's gross revenue. Is he worth that much? How much more value is he adding then a CEO you could get for say $4M instead?
In most cases this could be handled by various corporate governing rules (you can only sit on one board, CEO salary needs a specific majority vote from stock holders, etc), but I think Trump did the right thing here , both in regards to optics and policy.
It's not really a government job. And getting an effective CEO for $500,000 per year may be rather unlikely.
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One doesn't have to be an economically illiterate leftwing idiot to notice that CEO salaries are generally too high.
It looks like the CEO was paid about .1% of the company's gross revenue. Is he worth that much? How much more value is he adding then a CEO you could get for say $4M instead?
In most cases this could be handled by various corporate governing rules (you can only sit on one board, CEO salary needs a specific majority vote from stock holders, etc), but I think Trump did the right thing here , both in regards to optics and policy.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (qlFIA)
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181 165 For once I'm *actually* just spitballing but I sincerely wonder if the planned Biden VP pick backed out and left them scrambling. Think about what they are going to have to go through, only to be part of a losing ticket...
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (QLgXI)
It's either that or they are just floating trial balloons like with Rice. Trying to find one that nudges the meter upwards overall.
Decisive! Brave!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (A5zUN)
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I'd believe pretty much anything about the VP process at this point except the idea that it was running smoothly.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (QLgXI)
It's either that or they are just floating trial balloons like with Rice. Trying to find one that nudges the meter upwards overall.
Decisive! Brave!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (A5zUN)
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I'd believe pretty much anything about the VP process at this point except the idea that it was running smoothly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (LvTSG)
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You say that like only radical leftists vote for Democrats.
The others are just brain dead zombies
You say that like only radical leftists vote for Democrats.
The others are just brain dead zombies
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (Zmnko)
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Are we the party of Barney Frank now?
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Maybe, but we aren't fags.
So should our nipples be protruding or not?
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Maybe, but we aren't fags.
So should our nipples be protruding or not?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (SchxB)
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Rasmussen: 6 out of 10 voters have Biden in their Dead Pool
Posted by: x at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (4g1Fx)
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165 For once I'm *actually* just spitballing but I sincerely wonder if the planned Biden VP pick backed out and left them scrambling. Think about what they are going to have to go through, only to be part of a losing ticket...
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (QLgXI)
Yeah, I wondered about that too. A shot at being President; but also a shot as going down in history as a joke campaign.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (QLgXI)
Yeah, I wondered about that too. A shot at being President; but also a shot as going down in history as a joke campaign.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (zrukV)
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According to the Daily Mail, Chicago DA Kim FOXX has dismissed over 25,000 felony cases during her tenure- including the Smollet hoax, murder arrests and drugs.
And she's just getting started.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM (1+Jvs)
Good lord.
And she's just getting started.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 10, 2020 03:36 PM (1+Jvs)
Good lord.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (Ez6QX)
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Working in an industry that relies on good coding, i have to fire anyone whose name even remotely sounds Indian. Worst fucking incompetent coders I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with.
In fact the only ones worse was an american coder with fuck all knowledge of basic, clean coding who was (you'll never believe this) an avid watcher of CNN. Bye.
My job is a form of QA. God-awful coders who think they know things are job security for me. Sure, it'll screw the company once I retire but...something about making a bed.
In fact the only ones worse was an american coder with fuck all knowledge of basic, clean coding who was (you'll never believe this) an avid watcher of CNN. Bye.
My job is a form of QA. God-awful coders who think they know things are job security for me. Sure, it'll screw the company once I retire but...something about making a bed.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at August 10, 2020 03:46 PM (ExV1e)
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And to think I would have done that job for half the pay.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 10, 2020 03:46 PM (r+sAi)
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For once I'm *actually* just spitballing but I sincerely wonder if the planned Biden VP pick backed out and left them scrambling
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Look, I'm willing to do a lot of stuff to advance my career. But when Joe asked me to rub his legs while he sniffed my hair I said that was a hard no.
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Look, I'm willing to do a lot of stuff to advance my career. But when Joe asked me to rub his legs while he sniffed my hair I said that was a hard no.
Posted by: Kamala Harris at August 10, 2020 03:46 PM (qlFIA)
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Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (qlFIA)
Problem with doing things for "optics" is that it's nearly always bad policy or precedent.
Problem with doing things for "optics" is that it's nearly always bad policy or precedent.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:46 PM (SpKeo)
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know a lot here hate "sportsball", but a lot of
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
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It will hurt the colleges more. Fuck it.
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (4g1Fx)
Once upon a time, a talking bear was terrorizing a town. Every other day or so, one of the town folk would disappear. There was a roar, a splattering of blood, but otherwise, nothing left.
So one day the braver members of the town gathered, got their pitchforks and muskets, and set out for the forest, to find this talking bear that had caused them so much grief.
When they came upon the bear, it was nursing its cubs. She turned when she saw the assembled townfolk, and said "Please spare my life. Without me, my cubs will starve."
And so they did.
Next Spring, three bears came to town to massacre and maim the villagers.
Moral of the story: Shoot the F'n bear. Don't listen to it what it has to say, just shoot and don't look back.
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
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It will hurt the colleges more. Fuck it.
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2020 03:41 PM (4g1Fx)
Once upon a time, a talking bear was terrorizing a town. Every other day or so, one of the town folk would disappear. There was a roar, a splattering of blood, but otherwise, nothing left.
So one day the braver members of the town gathered, got their pitchforks and muskets, and set out for the forest, to find this talking bear that had caused them so much grief.
When they came upon the bear, it was nursing its cubs. She turned when she saw the assembled townfolk, and said "Please spare my life. Without me, my cubs will starve."
And so they did.
Next Spring, three bears came to town to massacre and maim the villagers.
Moral of the story: Shoot the F'n bear. Don't listen to it what it has to say, just shoot and don't look back.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:46 PM (hku12)
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Posted by: SH at August 10, 2020 03:28 PM (sX1BW)
Yep. It may not be slave labor but it devolves into exploitation (and labor trafficking) extremely easily.
Yep. It may not be slave labor but it devolves into exploitation (and labor trafficking) extremely easily.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 10, 2020 03:46 PM (uquGJ)
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After a decade-long process, Cambridge-based biotech company Biogen has shepherded what experts say may be the "first real treatment" for Joe Biden's Alzheimer's disease to the Food and Drug Administration's door.
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2020 03:46 PM (3aI0K)
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University of Kentucky lost their College basketball income.
It's literally a billion dollar business.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (JUOKG)
Maybe kollidge should focus more on things like education instead of entertainment
It's literally a billion dollar business.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:44 PM (JUOKG)
Maybe kollidge should focus more on things like education instead of entertainment
Posted by: A dude in MI at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (/6GbT)
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Hey Joe, I'm ready to step into the presidency on day 1! Sorry, I meant vice presidency!
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (qlFIA)
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188 Are we the party of Barney Frank now?
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Maybe, but we aren't fags.
So should our nipples be protruding or not?
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Better protruding nipples than prolapsed anus.
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Maybe, but we aren't fags.
So should our nipples be protruding or not?
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Better protruding nipples than prolapsed anus.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (Bm2ax)
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You can't find a department head in a municipal environment ANYWHERE that does anything more than travel to conferences and go to meetings and then go to more conferences.
There's no way this TVA employee is doing sh*t.
There's no way this TVA employee is doing sh*t.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (0KD36)
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>>Rush brought up no college football the tv money deficit will be staggering but no 100,000 fans moving into a small town will hurt businesses.
The local business hit is very bad, but I'm not sure they'd be getting it much if the sports are on this year. Just look at what a hassle travel has become, especially with recent state quarantine requirements. I would not be surprised if schools that do have sports make it locals only, or worse, no in-person attendance like as is happening with MLB.
The local business hit is very bad, but I'm not sure they'd be getting it much if the sports are on this year. Just look at what a hassle travel has become, especially with recent state quarantine requirements. I would not be surprised if schools that do have sports make it locals only, or worse, no in-person attendance like as is happening with MLB.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (bDqIh)
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It's literally the Congressionally-mandated mission of the TVA to provide jobs for US citizens. Violating that mission should result in federal charges.
Govt shouldn't dictate salaries to companies - full stop. Is this no longer the position of Republicans? Are we the party of Barney Frank now?
Not a company, a government-created entity with the mission of providing jobs and services to American citizens. If you're getting $8,000,000 to do that AND FAIL AT THAT BASIC MISSION, next guy has to prove he knows who he works for before he gets that kind of cash.
Govt shouldn't dictate salaries to companies - full stop. Is this no longer the position of Republicans? Are we the party of Barney Frank now?
Not a company, a government-created entity with the mission of providing jobs and services to American citizens. If you're getting $8,000,000 to do that AND FAIL AT THAT BASIC MISSION, next guy has to prove he knows who he works for before he gets that kind of cash.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (naEeR)
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Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 10, 2020 03:46 PM (r+sAi)
I generally think CEOs are somewhat useless - especially for businesses with a forced client base; but they do bear legal and regulatory responsibility. They bear the risk of jail time and other punishments should something go horribly wrong.; so you need to compensate for that risk.
I generally think CEOs are somewhat useless - especially for businesses with a forced client base; but they do bear legal and regulatory responsibility. They bear the risk of jail time and other punishments should something go horribly wrong.; so you need to compensate for that risk.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (SpKeo)
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Moral of the story: Shoot the F'n bear. Don't listen to it what it has to say, just shoot and don't look back.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:46 PM (hku12)
Yogi Bear was my friend.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:46 PM (hku12)
Yogi Bear was my friend.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (A5zUN)
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Fuck college sports. It is one of the most unnecessary things inAmerica.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (ha6Lb)
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Some Schools would fold if they did not have sports that pays the bills.
Most colleges lose money on their athletic programs. Only the really big and successful programs make money.
Most colleges lose money on their athletic programs. Only the really big and successful programs make money.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:48 PM (zrukV)
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Look, I'm willing to do a lot of stuff to advance my
career. But when Joe asked me to rub his legs while he sniffed my hair I
said that was a hard no.
Posted by: Kamala Harris
Wait, is this Joe "Kamala" Harris or Ho "Kamala" Harris?
career. But when Joe asked me to rub his legs while he sniffed my hair I
said that was a hard no.
Posted by: Kamala Harris
Wait, is this Joe "Kamala" Harris or Ho "Kamala" Harris?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at August 10, 2020 03:48 PM (SchxB)
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> smoke box? smoker box? There is such a thing, right?
Smoker box is what I've always heard, and the 'zon seems to agree.
You can improvise one by wrapping the chips in several layers of heavy duty foil and poking a bunch of holes in it with a nail.
Smoker box is what I've always heard, and the 'zon seems to agree.
You can improvise one by wrapping the chips in several layers of heavy duty foil and poking a bunch of holes in it with a nail.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2020 03:48 PM (5mKrx)
Posted by: When you realize it's Now, its already Then at August 10, 2020 03:48 PM (cCxiu)
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Look, I'm willing to do a lot of stuff to advance my
career. But when Joe asked me to rub his legs while he sniffed my hair I
said that was a hard no.
Posted by: Kamala Harris
You've done worse. C'mon.
career. But when Joe asked me to rub his legs while he sniffed my hair I
said that was a hard no.
Posted by: Kamala Harris
You've done worse. C'mon.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:48 PM (SpKeo)
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Now do the same for the IT guys at So Cal Edison that got outsourced.
Posted by: TakeFive at August 10, 2020 03:48 PM (7bUnW)
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I have no problem with executives making huge salaries in open market transactions; if they can make their company earn millions, they earn the salary. On the other hand, executives on school boards, city government, and regulated utilities like the TVA, that have a monopoly, no.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 10, 2020 03:48 PM (kA3Cp)
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149 OAN - Australians find drug Ivetmectine kills Covid-19, it's a anti parasite medicine.
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2020 03:40 PM (OjZpE)
Interesting, Skip. Good find.
I just checked the Wiki, and it has been an approved drug since 1981, and the WHO puts it on their "essential drugs" list.
But remember that HCQ, an earlier version of it, was approved in the 1950's. And over a Billion uses since.
Too bad they hate Trump so much they will lie and let people die.
But that is who "they" are.
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2020 03:40 PM (OjZpE)
Interesting, Skip. Good find.
I just checked the Wiki, and it has been an approved drug since 1981, and the WHO puts it on their "essential drugs" list.
But remember that HCQ, an earlier version of it, was approved in the 1950's. And over a Billion uses since.
Too bad they hate Trump so much they will lie and let people die.
But that is who "they" are.
Posted by: Hyman Roth, who always makes money for his partners at August 10, 2020 03:48 PM (sy5kK)
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Way to Go Mr. President! Go Trump, drain the swamp, MAGA!
Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at August 10, 2020 03:49 PM (tSosf)
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For once I'm *actually* just spitballing but I sincerely wonder if the
planned Biden VP pick backed out and left them scrambling. Think about
what they are going to have to go through, only to be part of a losing
ticket...
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM
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99 trial balloons
You and I in a little toy shop
Buy a bag of trial balloons with the money we've got
Set them free at the break of dawn
Til one by one, they were gone
Back at base bugs in the software
Flash the message, something's out there
Floating in the summer sky
99 trial balloons go by
planned Biden VP pick backed out and left them scrambling. Think about
what they are going to have to go through, only to be part of a losing
ticket...
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM
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99 trial balloons
You and I in a little toy shop
Buy a bag of trial balloons with the money we've got
Set them free at the break of dawn
Til one by one, they were gone
Back at base bugs in the software
Flash the message, something's out there
Floating in the summer sky
99 trial balloons go by
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:49 PM (JUOKG)
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139 Reducing the onerous cost of business through deregulation and cutting the throats of unions is the way to encourage more American hiring. If you're running a business that barely is staying afloat, being able to hire people for a fraction of a cost greatly reduces your biggest expense: personnel. Reduce that effect, and you reduce the pressure to hire outside the USA.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (KZzsI)
...and people will want to do business here.
If people find it is better to hire here in a business friendly environment, they will. Right now, as it is, local, state, federal governments have things such that it is so much easier to just go to China and bribe a Red Chinese bureaucrat to get things done in (whatever field), and Americans (the people who voted for that state of affairs) start shrieking about how bad and how wrong that is.
Trump can only do so much - we need to start demanding the setup of a business friendly environment here at home. We do that, then a great deal will take care of itself.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (KZzsI)
...and people will want to do business here.
If people find it is better to hire here in a business friendly environment, they will. Right now, as it is, local, state, federal governments have things such that it is so much easier to just go to China and bribe a Red Chinese bureaucrat to get things done in (whatever field), and Americans (the people who voted for that state of affairs) start shrieking about how bad and how wrong that is.
Trump can only do so much - we need to start demanding the setup of a business friendly environment here at home. We do that, then a great deal will take care of itself.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:49 PM (ejsiI)
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People are confusing this guy with a real CEO - you know one that has to actually compete and win shareholders? Need to get off the fainting chairs about Trump trying to control CEO pay.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at August 10, 2020 03:49 PM (xceTB)
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So it's now?
Posted by: eleven at August 10, 2020 03:49 PM (XTyi0)
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Dicks Out For Yogi
Posted by: Harambe at August 10, 2020 03:49 PM (4g1Fx)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 10, 2020 03:49 PM (sy5kK)
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109 h1b is like illegal immigration. There is no shortage of American tech workers. There is a shortage of American tech workers willing to work for $30k a year. Just like Americans will do menial labor jobs but not for $5 an hour like an illegal will.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (ha6Lb)
Exactly this.
There is no such thing as a job an American won't do. Only wages that Americans will not work for.
Labor follows the law of supply and demand. If there's no supply of labor available at what they're willing to pay, their choices in a free market should be to find alternatives (IE, automation) or stop doing it - not compel the state to provide them with a supply at below-market prices!
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:35 PM (ha6Lb)
Exactly this.
There is no such thing as a job an American won't do. Only wages that Americans will not work for.
Labor follows the law of supply and demand. If there's no supply of labor available at what they're willing to pay, their choices in a free market should be to find alternatives (IE, automation) or stop doing it - not compel the state to provide them with a supply at below-market prices!
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 03:49 PM (TAXCv)
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Man, I could've made a lot of money with a talking bear.
Posted by: zombie P.T. Barnum at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (h5TKJ)
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"...but the number of people pissing and moaning about the payroll tax holiday is killing me."
D's going back to the 30 year old playbook.
"The GOP is going to push grandma over the cliff!"
D's going back to the 30 year old playbook.
"The GOP is going to push grandma over the cliff!"
Posted by: navybrat, at large at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (w7KSn)
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We didn't leave the CEO friendly Gope Party.
The CEO friendly Gope Party left us.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)
My point is that what we are witnessing is a massive political upheaval.
You don't support the right of someone to make money based upon their electoral preferences. Govt shouldn't dictate salaries to companies - full stop. Is this no longer the position of Republicans? Are we the party of Barney Frank now?
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (SpKeo)
Blah blah blah. We're in "F you, war" mode now.
Time for the intellectual arguments to cease.
The CEO friendly Gope Party left us.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)
My point is that what we are witnessing is a massive political upheaval.
You don't support the right of someone to make money based upon their electoral preferences. Govt shouldn't dictate salaries to companies - full stop. Is this no longer the position of Republicans? Are we the party of Barney Frank now?
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:43 PM (SpKeo)
Blah blah blah. We're in "F you, war" mode now.
Time for the intellectual arguments to cease.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (hku12)
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The left's efforts to destroy Trump are going to greatly weaken some of their most valuable institutions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (LvTSG)
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From your lips to the god's ears.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (LvTSG)
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From your lips to the god's ears.
Posted by: Gilded Age II, now with comprehensive surveillance, backstabbing Republicans, and fake science! at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (BRkq2)
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All that money not spent on sportsball will be spent somewhere else.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (ha6Lb)
230
look...Tourist feeding bears the old fashioned way.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (pB6Gt)
231
226 "...but the number of people pissing and moaning about the payroll tax holiday is killing me."
D's going back to the 30 year old playbook.
"The GOP is going to push grandma over the cliff!"
Posted by: navybrat, at large at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (w7KSn)
Grandma isn't necessarily a good person.
D's going back to the 30 year old playbook.
"The GOP is going to push grandma over the cliff!"
Posted by: navybrat, at large at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (w7KSn)
Grandma isn't necessarily a good person.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 10, 2020 03:51 PM (NWiLs)
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208 Fuck college sports. It is one of the most unnecessary things inAmerica.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (ha6Lb)
This.
When college sports started, it was a fun thing, a way for students - real students - to blow off steam, kind of like an intramural sports team at one school challenging that at another.
It has now metastasized into a behemoth that in some places overshadows the academic function of the university.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (ha6Lb)
This.
When college sports started, it was a fun thing, a way for students - real students - to blow off steam, kind of like an intramural sports team at one school challenging that at another.
It has now metastasized into a behemoth that in some places overshadows the academic function of the university.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:51 PM (zrukV)
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206 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 10, 2020 03:46 PM (r+sAi)
I generally think CEOs are somewhat useless - especially for businesses with a forced client base; but they do bear legal and regulatory responsibility. They bear the risk of jail time and other punishments should something go horribly wrong.; so you need to compensate for that risk.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (SpKeo)
CEO compensation for major companies (disregarding those of more modestly sized businesses who if you factor them in average pay is around 200k or so) is mostly in equity options anyways. That is directly related to the stock price of their company. There's a substantial luck component as a consequence but pay is generally structured so that both shareholders and the CEO win or lose at the same time.
I generally think CEOs are somewhat useless - especially for businesses with a forced client base; but they do bear legal and regulatory responsibility. They bear the risk of jail time and other punishments should something go horribly wrong.; so you need to compensate for that risk.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:47 PM (SpKeo)
CEO compensation for major companies (disregarding those of more modestly sized businesses who if you factor them in average pay is around 200k or so) is mostly in equity options anyways. That is directly related to the stock price of their company. There's a substantial luck component as a consequence but pay is generally structured so that both shareholders and the CEO win or lose at the same time.
Posted by: Someguy at August 10, 2020 03:51 PM (Zm+LZ)
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All that money not spent on sportsball will be spent somewhere else.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM
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Right now it appears people are spending it on guns and ammunition.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM
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Right now it appears people are spending it on guns and ammunition.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:51 PM (JUOKG)
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D's going back to the 30 year old playbook.
"The GOP is going to push grandma over the cliff!"
Posted by: navybrat, at large at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (w7KSn)
Too bad their foot troops have already beaten Grandma to death, set her on fire, and then thrown her off the cliff.
"The GOP is going to push grandma over the cliff!"
Posted by: navybrat, at large at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (w7KSn)
Too bad their foot troops have already beaten Grandma to death, set her on fire, and then thrown her off the cliff.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 10, 2020 03:51 PM (A5zUN)
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Maybe we should drain TVA and restore the valleys?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (Bm2ax)
Hey! That's my boat dock you are turning into a dry dock.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (Bm2ax)
Hey! That's my boat dock you are turning into a dry dock.
Posted by: TN Deplorable at August 10, 2020 03:51 PM (mgeBd)
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234 All that money not spent on sportsball will be spent somewhere else.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM
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Right now it appears people are spending it on guns and ammunition.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:51 PM (JUOKG)
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Apparently there's a lot of paying down credit card debt right now.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM
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Right now it appears people are spending it on guns and ammunition.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:51 PM (JUOKG)
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Apparently there's a lot of paying down credit card debt right now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:52 PM (LvTSG)
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I'd believe pretty much anything about the VP process at this point except the idea that it was running smoothly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (LvTSG)
Or that Biden was involved in that process.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (LvTSG)
Or that Biden was involved in that process.
Posted by: Boswell at August 10, 2020 03:52 PM (w2LAm)
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I thought Grandma died of COVID in a NY Nursing Home?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:52 PM (Bm2ax)
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185: One doesn't have to be an economically illiterate leftwing idiot to notice that CEO salaries are generally too high.
No they're not. Unless you heard something somewhere about a CEO's paycheck bouncing when he tried to cash it.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
No they're not. Unless you heard something somewhere about a CEO's paycheck bouncing when he tried to cash it.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:52 PM (ejsiI)
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I have no problem with executives making huge salaries in open market transactions; if they can make their company earn millions, they earn the salary. On the other hand, executives on school boards, city government, and regulated utilities like the TVA, that have a monopoly, no.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 10, 2020 03:48 PM (kA3Cp)
THIS.
If you have a monopoly, you don't get paid like a Coca Cola exec. Why? Because you're not managing the same risks, there's no competition, the corners all have padded edges and there's little consequence for failure.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 10, 2020 03:48 PM (kA3Cp)
THIS.
If you have a monopoly, you don't get paid like a Coca Cola exec. Why? Because you're not managing the same risks, there's no competition, the corners all have padded edges and there's little consequence for failure.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 03:52 PM (TAXCv)
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Is TVA even the equivalent of a regulated but "private" utility company? If not, then CEO pay is a legit topic for public policy. One doesn't see Trump mentioning or caring about the compensation of real CEOs.
This is not complicated.
This is not complicated.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (OTzUX)
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228 The left's efforts to destroy Trump are going to greatly weaken some of their most valuable institutions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (LvTSG)
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From your lips to the god's ears.
Posted by: Gilded Age II, now with comprehensive surveillance, backstabbing Republicans, and fake science! at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (BRkq2)
Leftist institutions now taking it in the shorts:
1. Universities
2. Hollywood
3. News media
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (LvTSG)
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From your lips to the god's ears.
Posted by: Gilded Age II, now with comprehensive surveillance, backstabbing Republicans, and fake science! at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (BRkq2)
Leftist institutions now taking it in the shorts:
1. Universities
2. Hollywood
3. News media
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (zrukV)
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If we don't have enough college graduates with a skill set for a
given profession (positioned to gain further work experience to
eventually fill upper-tier positions) then this is a sign that out
education system is out of synch with the current demands of the job market. Supplementing/supplanting with foreigners provides cover for them.
America needs those Lesbian Studies engineers.
given profession (positioned to gain further work experience to
eventually fill upper-tier positions) then this is a sign that out
education system is out of synch with the current demands of the job market. Supplementing/supplanting with foreigners provides cover for them.
America needs those Lesbian Studies engineers.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (oVJmc)
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236 Maybe we should drain TVA and restore the valleys?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (Bm2ax)
Hey! That's my boat dock you are turning into a dry dock.
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Imagine a bigger front yard.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (Bm2ax)
Hey! That's my boat dock you are turning into a dry dock.
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Imagine a bigger front yard.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (Bm2ax)
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Most colleges lose money on their athletic programs. Only the really big and successful programs make money.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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I remember reading a few years ago that only something like 15 of the 130ish made money (Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, etc), and the average spending of all schools was something crazy like $13M per year.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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I remember reading a few years ago that only something like 15 of the 130ish made money (Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson, etc), and the average spending of all schools was something crazy like $13M per year.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (0KD36)
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Blah blah blah. We're in "F you, war" mode now.
Time for the intellectual arguments to cease.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (hku12)
That's about the only reason I am on board with Trump. The current version of the D party needs to be eliminated from office - however, the bill will come due. We are now supporting positions unthinkable just a few years ago.
Time for the intellectual arguments to cease.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (hku12)
That's about the only reason I am on board with Trump. The current version of the D party needs to be eliminated from office - however, the bill will come due. We are now supporting positions unthinkable just a few years ago.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (SpKeo)
Posted by: Dem governors at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (/6GbT)
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240 185: One doesn't have to be an economically illiterate leftwing idiot to notice that CEO salaries are generally too high.
No they're not. Unless you heard something somewhere about a CEO's paycheck bouncing when he tried to cash it.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:52 PM (ejsiI)
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I think people hear the value of the entire compensation packages for Fortune 500 CEOs and extrapolate that value to every CEO ever.
I remember reading that the average CEO gets paid about $250,000 a year. That's much lower than what a Fortune 500 CEO gets paid in a year.
No they're not. Unless you heard something somewhere about a CEO's paycheck bouncing when he tried to cash it.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:52 PM (ejsiI)
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I think people hear the value of the entire compensation packages for Fortune 500 CEOs and extrapolate that value to every CEO ever.
I remember reading that the average CEO gets paid about $250,000 a year. That's much lower than what a Fortune 500 CEO gets paid in a year.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: When you realize it's Now, its already Then at August 10, 2020 03:54 PM (cCxiu)
251
Biden picks Barack Obama as his VP, Hillary kills Biden, Obama gets 2 more terms with Hillary as VP.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2020 03:54 PM (1ISKN)
252
That awful interview with Axios that Trump did was seen (whole or in part) by 100 million people across different platforms.
Could explain why the President was making some headway vs Biden and now has fallen 13 points behind again (Battleground poll).
There was nothing to gain from doing that interview.
Could explain why the President was making some headway vs Biden and now has fallen 13 points behind again (Battleground poll).
There was nothing to gain from doing that interview.
Posted by: Gildersleeve at August 10, 2020 03:54 PM (R5TtJ)
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For once I'm *actually* just spitballing but I sincerely wonder if the planned Biden VP pick backed out and left them scrambling. Think about what they are going to have to go through, only to be part of a losing ticket...
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (QLgXI)
Yeah, I wondered about that too. A shot at being President; but also a shot as going down in history as a joke campaign.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (zrukV)
I didn't consider that someone might have actually back out, but yeah, I do think it's possible there are some power players who are eyeballing 2024, and want nothing to do with the Dumpster Fire that is Team Biden (aka Team Obama) 2020.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2020 03:42 PM (QLgXI)
Yeah, I wondered about that too. A shot at being President; but also a shot as going down in history as a joke campaign.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (zrukV)
I didn't consider that someone might have actually back out, but yeah, I do think it's possible there are some power players who are eyeballing 2024, and want nothing to do with the Dumpster Fire that is Team Biden (aka Team Obama) 2020.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:54 PM (hku12)
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Poll troll
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2020 03:54 PM (Zmnko)
255
Apparently there's a lot of paying down credit card debt right now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:52 PM (LvTSG)
Fiscal responsibility fluttering its eyelids, possibly making a comeback?
Truly, these are the End Times.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:52 PM (LvTSG)
Fiscal responsibility fluttering its eyelids, possibly making a comeback?
Truly, these are the End Times.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:54 PM (zrukV)
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America needs those Lesbian Studies engineers.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (oVJmc)
Engineers?
That must be one helluva erector set.
America needs those Lesbian Studies engineers.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (oVJmc)
Engineers?
That must be one helluva erector set.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 10, 2020 03:54 PM (sy5kK)
257
Big battle going on in college football. May be the hill to die on for some. the big 10 (ohio state, etc) apparently voted to cancel, but some coaches took to twitter to say they don't want to cancel and asked the SEC if they could come play in their league (the SEC has said it won't cancel)
Trump has weighed in, promoting Trevor Lawrence of Clemson (out and pround Christian) who has been almost single handedly trying to get social media to stop the "coronabros" (lefties) with their plan to cancel.
Huge war going on--cross your fingers that the bad guys back down.
Trump has weighed in, promoting Trevor Lawrence of Clemson (out and pround Christian) who has been almost single handedly trying to get social media to stop the "coronabros" (lefties) with their plan to cancel.
Huge war going on--cross your fingers that the bad guys back down.
Posted by: artemis at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (AwPyG)
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I have no problem with executives making huge salaries in open market transactions; if they can make their company earn millions, they earn the salary. On the other hand, executives on school boards, city government, and regulated utilities like the TVA, that have a monopoly, no.
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Well said.
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Well said.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (0KD36)
259
Maybe we should drain TVA and restore the valleys?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (Bm2ax)
I'm all for it. Part of the land under Lake Norris is rightfully mine.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (Bm2ax)
I'm all for it. Part of the land under Lake Norris is rightfully mine.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (TAXCv)
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You can improvise one by wrapping the chips in several layers of heavy duty foil and poking a bunch of holes in it with a nail.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
yes, thanks, but that's the prob.
My grilled stuff is tasting like burnt AL foil. Which my guests haven't mentioned but I can smell it. It's acrid.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
yes, thanks, but that's the prob.
My grilled stuff is tasting like burnt AL foil. Which my guests haven't mentioned but I can smell it. It's acrid.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (vIxqx)
261
Finding the outrageous salary of a quasi-state utility outrageous is not an unthinkable position, it's obvious and standard and ancient. Ditto for all public "service" positions. Ditto for school teachers and cops.
It's a policy issue. It's public. It's not part of the real economy.
This is not complicated.
It's a policy issue. It's public. It's not part of the real economy.
This is not complicated.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (OTzUX)
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Govt shouldn't dictate salaries to companies - full stop. Is this no longer the position of Republicans? Are we the party of Barney Frank now?
Posted by: lorien1973
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There is a difference between a private company, and a regulated utility, or a government job. I have no problem with a Ford or Goolag paying their CEO whatever they want out of their revenue. Those decisions have to be justified to their shareholders. A school board member, a government department head, or the CEO of a regulated monopoly - yes, those salaries should be public, and debated.
Posted by: lorien1973
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There is a difference between a private company, and a regulated utility, or a government job. I have no problem with a Ford or Goolag paying their CEO whatever they want out of their revenue. Those decisions have to be justified to their shareholders. A school board member, a government department head, or the CEO of a regulated monopoly - yes, those salaries should be public, and debated.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (kA3Cp)
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249 240 185: One doesn't have to be an economically illiterate leftwing idiot to notice that CEO salaries are generally too high.
No they're not. Unless you heard something somewhere about a CEO's paycheck bouncing when he tried to cash it.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:52 PM (ejsiI)
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I think people hear the value of the entire compensation packages for Fortune 500 CEOs and extrapolate that value to every CEO ever.
I remember reading that the average CEO gets paid about $250,000 a year. That's much lower than what a Fortune 500 CEO gets paid in a year.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (LvTSG)
And CEO pay, especially for those larger companies, is pretty heavily in stock options. Which means the shock headlines are typically for whichever CEO's company happened to have a major surge in stock price that year.
No they're not. Unless you heard something somewhere about a CEO's paycheck bouncing when he tried to cash it.
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 10, 2020 03:52 PM (ejsiI)
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I think people hear the value of the entire compensation packages for Fortune 500 CEOs and extrapolate that value to every CEO ever.
I remember reading that the average CEO gets paid about $250,000 a year. That's much lower than what a Fortune 500 CEO gets paid in a year.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (LvTSG)
And CEO pay, especially for those larger companies, is pretty heavily in stock options. Which means the shock headlines are typically for whichever CEO's company happened to have a major surge in stock price that year.
Posted by: Someguy at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (Zm+LZ)
264
With Cuomo opening schools in NY is he in play to replace Bike Helmet Biden?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (Bm2ax)
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> I'd believe pretty much anything about the VP process at this point except the idea that it was running smoothly.
I'm sure the infighting between the "corrupt machine" wing and the various rival communist wings is brutal.
I'm sure the infighting between the "corrupt machine" wing and the various rival communist wings is brutal.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (5mKrx)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (Zz0t1)
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OH F*CK COULD YOU IMAGINE OHIO STATE JOINING THE SEC
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (0KD36)
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Children more likely to be diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder if mother reported using cannabis during pregnancy, Canadian study finds
.. makes that glass of wine look simply safe
.. makes that glass of wine look simply safe
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (3aI0K)
269
How will the mafia survive without sportsball?
Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (gmo/4)
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Hilarious how people in the media pretend the illiterate college football and basketball players are getting an education.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (ha6Lb)
Posted by: tubal at August 10, 2020 03:57 PM (bCLt0)
272
America needs those Lesbian Studies engineers.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (oVJmc)
Engineers?
That must be one helluva erector set.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 10, 2020 03:54 PM (sy5kK)
They design novel ... uh ... attachments, yes that's it, attachments for sawzalls.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (oVJmc)
Engineers?
That must be one helluva erector set.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 10, 2020 03:54 PM (sy5kK)
They design novel ... uh ... attachments, yes that's it, attachments for sawzalls.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2020 03:57 PM (zrukV)
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265 > I'd believe pretty much anything about the VP process at this point except the idea that it was running smoothly.
I'm sure the infighting between the "corrupt machine" wing and the various rival communist wings is brutal.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (5mKrx)
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"We can win the presidency without having to appeal to the stupid hicks in Iowa? Fuck you, it's mine!"
I'm sure the infighting between the "corrupt machine" wing and the various rival communist wings is brutal.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (5mKrx)
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"We can win the presidency without having to appeal to the stupid hicks in Iowa? Fuck you, it's mine!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 03:57 PM (LvTSG)
274
People still think the New Deal was about Soup, lolol... The New Deal was as much about Soup as the Green New Deal is about the environment. One brought Fascism to America the other would bring Communism. The New Deal should be revisited by the Supreme Court.
Posted by: fisht at August 10, 2020 03:57 PM (g5ddn)
275
There should be one exception to the moratorium on immigration and visas. Specifically, the H-1B3 visas.
This is the one that lets the hottie East European models (and "models" and "actresses") get in.
I'm A-ok with that.
There should be one exception to the moratorium on immigration and visas. Specifically, the H-1B3 visas.
This is the one that lets the hottie East European models (and "models" and "actresses") get in.
I'm A-ok with that.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 10, 2020 03:57 PM (rCwaK)
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The TVA:
A government solution to a once in 500 years 500k-acre flood...
...a million acre permanent lake.
A government solution to a once in 500 years 500k-acre flood...
...a million acre permanent lake.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 03:57 PM (TAXCv)
277
Simple. Private companies can pay CEOs whatever they want. Govt run institutions using tax dollars cannot. Why is this so hard to grasp for some?
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 03:57 PM (ha6Lb)
278
Trump is the man we've been waiting for for decades.
Who knew?
I know I've been bitching for a LONG time waiting for someone to come out in politics and tell it like it is.
I didn't see anything about Trump's EO signings over the weekend, but I'm hoping he said something about how the Dems are sticking every piece of shit in their bill that has NOTHING to do with helping the American tax payer.
These fucking people are EMBARRASSINGLY stupid and greedy.
Who knew?
I know I've been bitching for a LONG time waiting for someone to come out in politics and tell it like it is.
I didn't see anything about Trump's EO signings over the weekend, but I'm hoping he said something about how the Dems are sticking every piece of shit in their bill that has NOTHING to do with helping the American tax payer.
These fucking people are EMBARRASSINGLY stupid and greedy.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 10, 2020 03:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2020 03:58 PM (bDqIh)
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Children more likely to be diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder if mother reported using cannabis during pregnancy, Canadian study finds
.. makes that glass of wine look simply safe
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2020
*
*
"Hey, Mom . . . I got he munchies, man. . . ."
.. makes that glass of wine look simply safe
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2020
*
*
"Hey, Mom . . . I got he munchies, man. . . ."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 10, 2020 03:58 PM (rpbg1)
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Blah blah blah. We're in "F you, war" mode now.
Time for the intellectual arguments to cease.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (hku12)
That's about the only reason I am on board with Trump. The current version of the D party needs to be eliminated from office - however, the bill will come due. We are now supporting positions unthinkable just a few years ago.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (SpKeo)
A few years ago people thought the Republican Party cared about rolling back Bobama's excesses, like the healthcare monstrosity. That the Republicans cared about defunding Planned Abortionhood, that they cared about funding a wall.
Even longer ago, I remember thinking the Republicans sent our men into battle, to defend freedom and secure safety here at home, from enemies abroad.
A lot has changed in the last few years.
Time for the intellectual arguments to cease.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:50 PM (hku12)
That's about the only reason I am on board with Trump. The current version of the D party needs to be eliminated from office - however, the bill will come due. We are now supporting positions unthinkable just a few years ago.
Posted by: lorien1973 at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (SpKeo)
A few years ago people thought the Republican Party cared about rolling back Bobama's excesses, like the healthcare monstrosity. That the Republicans cared about defunding Planned Abortionhood, that they cared about funding a wall.
Even longer ago, I remember thinking the Republicans sent our men into battle, to defend freedom and secure safety here at home, from enemies abroad.
A lot has changed in the last few years.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 03:58 PM (hku12)
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259 Maybe we should drain TVA and restore the valleys?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (Bm2ax)
I'm all for it. Part of the land under Lake Norris is rightfully mine.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (TAXCv)
Exercise your mining rights. Or a floating casino.
259 Maybe we should drain TVA and restore the valleys?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (Bm2ax)
I'm all for it. Part of the land under Lake Norris is rightfully mine.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (TAXCv)
Exercise your mining rights. Or a floating casino.
Posted by: tubal at August 10, 2020 03:58 PM (bCLt0)
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Iknow a lot here hate "sportsball", but a lot of
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
I never like it when legitimate businesses go under and I mean no animosity toward small business owners but... you hitched yourself to an evil beast.
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
I never like it when legitimate businesses go under and I mean no animosity toward small business owners but... you hitched yourself to an evil beast.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:58 PM (KZzsI)
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Maybe we should drain TVA and restore the valleys?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (Bm2ax)
I'm all for it. Part of the land under Lake Norris is rightfully mine.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM
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I got claim to a couple of hundred acres at the bottom of Dale Hollow Lake straddling the TN/KY border.
My grandparents were kicked off of their land with no more than 2 cents on the dollar compensation for their farm, house and outbuildings.
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 03:22 PM (Bm2ax)
I'm all for it. Part of the land under Lake Norris is rightfully mine.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM
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I got claim to a couple of hundred acres at the bottom of Dale Hollow Lake straddling the TN/KY border.
My grandparents were kicked off of their land with no more than 2 cents on the dollar compensation for their farm, house and outbuildings.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:59 PM (JUOKG)
285
America needs those Lesbian Studies engineers.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (oVJmc)
Engineers?
That must be one helluva erector set.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
Gotta make toys. The World has moved pass inflatable dolls and dildos made by Hong Kong slaves.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (oVJmc)
Engineers?
That must be one helluva erector set.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
Gotta make toys. The World has moved pass inflatable dolls and dildos made by Hong Kong slaves.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 10, 2020 03:59 PM (pB6Gt)
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COULD YOU IMAGINE OHIO STATE JOINING THE SEC
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They would never win a conference game. Ok, I lied. Maybe Vanderbilt.
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They would never win a conference game. Ok, I lied. Maybe Vanderbilt.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (kA3Cp)
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Exercise your mining rights. Or a floating casino.
Posted by: tubal at August 10, 2020 03:58 PM (bCLt0)
That sounds like it'd be a lot of fun for the lawyers.
Posted by: tubal at August 10, 2020 03:58 PM (bCLt0)
That sounds like it'd be a lot of fun for the lawyers.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (TAXCv)
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@278
the reason no one ever pointed out how the pork-ridden every bill was (up until trump) is everyone was in on it.
"I have to vote for the "clean water" act, and to do so I just happened to vote to give the communist chinese a big tariff break. Oh well!"
the reason no one ever pointed out how the pork-ridden every bill was (up until trump) is everyone was in on it.
"I have to vote for the "clean water" act, and to do so I just happened to vote to give the communist chinese a big tariff break. Oh well!"
Posted by: artemis at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (ha6Lb)
290
Median CEO total compensation in the US for 2020: $1,518,000 as per salary.com - not sure where the estimates of $250K are coming from.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (qlFIA)
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I forgot...buy American and you can't go wrong with gasoline.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (pB6Gt)
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Will no one think of me?
Posted by: The Snail Darter at August 10, 2020 04:01 PM (ejd/p)
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Govt shouldn't dictate salaries to companies - full stop. Is this no
longer the position of Republicans? Are we the party of Barney Frank
now?
Posted by: lorien1973
When companies want to dictate things to us via the gov't or their monopoly position, then yes, we get to fight back.
longer the position of Republicans? Are we the party of Barney Frank
now?
Posted by: lorien1973
When companies want to dictate things to us via the gov't or their monopoly position, then yes, we get to fight back.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at August 10, 2020 04:01 PM (J70i0)
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Sports are entertainment. Nothing more.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2020 04:01 PM (oVJmc)
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@286
heh!
I'm kinda happy about all this--its been clear for a while that lefties have been trying to ruin college football. I hope it all blows up in their faces.
heh!
I'm kinda happy about all this--its been clear for a while that lefties have been trying to ruin college football. I hope it all blows up in their faces.
Posted by: artemis at August 10, 2020 04:01 PM (AwPyG)
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284
I got claim to a couple of hundred acres at the bottom of Dale Hollow Lake straddling the TN/KY border.
My grandparents were kicked off of their land with no more than 2 cents on the dollar compensation for their farm, house and outbuildings.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:59 PM (JUOKG)
But but but the GREATER GOOD. Or some such shit, conveniently shoveled.
I got claim to a couple of hundred acres at the bottom of Dale Hollow Lake straddling the TN/KY border.
My grandparents were kicked off of their land with no more than 2 cents on the dollar compensation for their farm, house and outbuildings.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:59 PM (JUOKG)
But but but the GREATER GOOD. Or some such shit, conveniently shoveled.
Posted by: tubal at August 10, 2020 04:01 PM (bCLt0)
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Exercise your mining rights. Or a floating casino.
Posted by: tubal
Those casinos are owned by redneck mafia, right?
Posted by: tubal
Those casinos are owned by redneck mafia, right?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2020 04:01 PM (vIxqx)
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OH F*CK COULD YOU IMAGINE OHIO STATE JOINING THE SEC
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (0KD36)
They'd be the mediocre team they usually are and wouldn't make it out of their conference.
They need to stay where they are if they want to remain relevant.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (0KD36)
They'd be the mediocre team they usually are and wouldn't make it out of their conference.
They need to stay where they are if they want to remain relevant.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 10, 2020 04:01 PM (Zz0t1)
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This post is right on the money.
Other 'conservative' blogs are posting about how covid will kill us all, the GOP senate should think about abandoning Trump, football, and other shit no one cares about.
At least ace gets it. The rest of con inc has lost its way.
Other 'conservative' blogs are posting about how covid will kill us all, the GOP senate should think about abandoning Trump, football, and other shit no one cares about.
At least ace gets it. The rest of con inc has lost its way.
Posted by: MJ at August 10, 2020 04:01 PM (gAMkn)
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Iknow a lot here hate "sportsball", but a lot of
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
I never like it when legitimate businesses go under and I mean no
animosity toward small business owners but... you hitched yourself to an
evil beast.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:58 PM
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When we lived in Kentucky some of the restaurants and bars in Georgetown and Lexington would make at least one quarter of their total annual revenue form UK basketball season.
chicken wings, chili and beers.
Iknow a lot here hate "sportsball", but a lot of
small businesses are dependent on colleges, and college football season in particular, to stay afloat.
I never like it when legitimate businesses go under and I mean no
animosity toward small business owners but... you hitched yourself to an
evil beast.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:58 PM
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When we lived in Kentucky some of the restaurants and bars in Georgetown and Lexington would make at least one quarter of their total annual revenue form UK basketball season.
chicken wings, chili and beers.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 04:02 PM (JUOKG)
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My grandparents were kicked off of their land with no more than 2 cents on the dollar compensation for their farm, house and outbuildings.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:59 PM (JUOKG)
Familiar with that one, too. The other side of the family was paid insultingly low amounts while being forced out of property in Cades Cove (now a national park, all modern buildings torn down. Probably would have been another Gatlinburg, if not for the Feds. Beautiful place.)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:59 PM (JUOKG)
Familiar with that one, too. The other side of the family was paid insultingly low amounts while being forced out of property in Cades Cove (now a national park, all modern buildings torn down. Probably would have been another Gatlinburg, if not for the Feds. Beautiful place.)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 04:02 PM (TAXCv)
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It may be "entertainment" but as Joe Burrow said on twitter, if this "cancel" had happened last year he'd be working a job somewhere instead of being heismann trophy winner and NFL player.
For a lot of kids this is a make or break year, after 10 years of getting ready for it.
For a lot of kids this is a make or break year, after 10 years of getting ready for it.
Posted by: artemis at August 10, 2020 04:02 PM (AwPyG)
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Median CEO total compensation in the US for 2020: $1,518,000 as per
salary.com - not sure where the estimates of $250K are coming from.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (qlFIA)
That was CEO compensation for a mid-sized nursing home company I worked for in the mid-90's. That leaves out the golden parachute, healthcare coverage after employment, stock options, etc.
Median CEO total compensation in the US for 2020: $1,518,000 as per
salary.com - not sure where the estimates of $250K are coming from.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (qlFIA)
That was CEO compensation for a mid-sized nursing home company I worked for in the mid-90's. That leaves out the golden parachute, healthcare coverage after employment, stock options, etc.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at August 10, 2020 04:02 PM (J70i0)
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297 Exercise your mining rights. Or a floating casino.
Posted by: tubal
Those casinos are owned by redneck mafia, right?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2020 04:01 PM (vIxqx)
Hey the Dixie Mafia gotta eat too!!
Posted by: tubal
Those casinos are owned by redneck mafia, right?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2020 04:01 PM (vIxqx)
Hey the Dixie Mafia gotta eat too!!
Posted by: tubal at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (bCLt0)
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286 COULD YOU IMAGINE OHIO STATE JOINING THE SEC
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They would never win a conference game. Ok, I lied. Maybe Vanderbilt.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (kA3Cp)
Now imagine Alabama playing a late November game with an early snow
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They would never win a conference game. Ok, I lied. Maybe Vanderbilt.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (kA3Cp)
Now imagine Alabama playing a late November game with an early snow
Posted by: Buzzion at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (YcdWn)
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Trump now behind 50% who men who use Axe deodorant.
Posted by: Snickersleeves at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (oDRcK)
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290 Median CEO total compensation in the US for 2020: $1,518,000 as per salary.com - not sure where the estimates of $250K are coming from.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (qlFIA)
The lower estimate is inclusive of private companies, many of which are quite small. It'll all depend on what groups you include or don't include. 1.5 million sounds like all publicly traded companies.
https://tinyurl.com/y4nfna7n
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (qlFIA)
The lower estimate is inclusive of private companies, many of which are quite small. It'll all depend on what groups you include or don't include. 1.5 million sounds like all publicly traded companies.
https://tinyurl.com/y4nfna7n
Posted by: Someguy at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (Zm+LZ)
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Some what related. A few years ago I was in a position to do interviews for some new IT positions. I got buried in resume from Indians (dot). All of the had PHDs on their resumes.
Like I was going to believe they had a PHD from bumfuck, India. Most of them could barely stop drooling long enough to vomit some tech babble that might have been English.
Like I was going to believe they had a PHD from bumfuck, India. Most of them could barely stop drooling long enough to vomit some tech babble that might have been English.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (IYZ+m)
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>> The World has moved pass inflatable dolls and dildos made by Hong Kong slaves.
Like Gwyneth Paltrow's $15K gold vibrator.
Like Gwyneth Paltrow's $15K gold vibrator.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (rCwaK)
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So 100 black "leaders" have warned Biden to pick a black woman for Veep, or else. America loves them some extortion I guess.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (xceTB)
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America needs those Lesbian Studies engineers.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (oVJmc)
Because designing two fisted dildos is an art and a science.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2020 03:53 PM (oVJmc)
Because designing two fisted dildos is an art and a science.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 10, 2020 04:04 PM (1g7ch)
312
#TalkingBearsMatter
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2020 04:04 PM (an7Mv)
313
These highly overpaid CEOs will say that labor costs are too high and they're simply forced to hire inferior foreign workers when it's really management costs that are way too high.
Kudos to PDT for stopping this.
Kudos to PDT for stopping this.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at August 10, 2020 04:05 PM (HaL55)
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310 So 100 black "leaders" have warned Biden to pick a black woman for Veep, or else. America loves them some extortion I guess.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (xceTB)
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"We'll do Indian. Elizabeth Warren. We good?"
-Biden
"Sigh...ugh...what else we gonna do? Vote Republican?"
-Black leaders
"Yo..."
-Kanye
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (xceTB)
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"We'll do Indian. Elizabeth Warren. We good?"
-Biden
"Sigh...ugh...what else we gonna do? Vote Republican?"
-Black leaders
"Yo..."
-Kanye
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 10, 2020 04:05 PM (LvTSG)
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So 100 black "leaders" have warned Biden to pick a black woman for Veep, or else. America loves them some extortion I guess.
If they were more 'diverse,' they couldn't make threats like that.
If they were more 'diverse,' they couldn't make threats like that.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2020 04:05 PM (oVJmc)
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313 agreed
Posted by: CN at August 10, 2020 04:05 PM (ONvIw)
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310 So 100 black "leaders" have warned Biden to pick a black woman for Veep, or else. America loves them some extortion I guess.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (xceTB)
Or else what?? They will vote for Trump?? I find that, well, questionable.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (xceTB)
Or else what?? They will vote for Trump?? I find that, well, questionable.
Posted by: tubal at August 10, 2020 04:05 PM (bCLt0)
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Now imagine Alabama playing a late November game with an early snow
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I'd love to see that, too. Training all summer in 100 degree heat with 100% humidity, and then being asked to face someone in a cool environment?
Oh yes please.
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I'd love to see that, too. Training all summer in 100 degree heat with 100% humidity, and then being asked to face someone in a cool environment?
Oh yes please.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 04:05 PM (0KD36)
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Like Gwyneth Paltrow's $15K gold vibrator.
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Doesn't she steam her vag like broccoli?
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Doesn't she steam her vag like broccoli?
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2020 04:05 PM (Bm2ax)
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So tired of the nonsense.
On another note, from AP and the Seattle Times:
The Washington State Tree Fruit Association estimates the 2020 crop will total 134 million standard forty-pound boxes of fresh apples. That's just above 2019's total of 133.9 million boxes.
Harvest is just getting underway in the nation's top apple producing state, and will continue into November.
For the second straight year, Gala will be the most numerous variety at 23%. Red Delicious is projected at 17%, followed by Fuji at 14%, and Granny Smith and Honeycrisp at 13% of total production.
This year, the new Cosmic Crisp is forecast to come in at 1.2% of the total crop.
The association says organic apple production is forecast to be 16% of the total, or 21 million boxes.
The forecast is based on a survey of association members, and represents a best estimate of the total volume of apples that will eventually be packed and sold on the fresh market.
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If you are an apple lover, try those Cosmic Crisp apples! They are amazing!
On another note, from AP and the Seattle Times:
The Washington State Tree Fruit Association estimates the 2020 crop will total 134 million standard forty-pound boxes of fresh apples. That's just above 2019's total of 133.9 million boxes.
Harvest is just getting underway in the nation's top apple producing state, and will continue into November.
For the second straight year, Gala will be the most numerous variety at 23%. Red Delicious is projected at 17%, followed by Fuji at 14%, and Granny Smith and Honeycrisp at 13% of total production.
This year, the new Cosmic Crisp is forecast to come in at 1.2% of the total crop.
The association says organic apple production is forecast to be 16% of the total, or 21 million boxes.
The forecast is based on a survey of association members, and represents a best estimate of the total volume of apples that will eventually be packed and sold on the fresh market.
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If you are an apple lover, try those Cosmic Crisp apples! They are amazing!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 10, 2020 04:05 PM (sy5kK)
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> I'd believe pretty much anything about the VP process at this point except the idea that it was running smoothly.
I'm sure the infighting between the "corrupt machine" wing and the various rival communist wings is brutal.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (5mKrx)
If Biden is as addled as all suspect then his input is taken and routinely ignored as his advisors all argue and fight with each other to get his or her pick in as the successor-in-waiting. Like some Latin American country were El Generalissimo is dying and the scarmble has begun.
> I'd believe pretty much anything about the VP process at this point except the idea that it was running smoothly.
I'm sure the infighting between the "corrupt machine" wing and the various rival communist wings is brutal.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2020 03:56 PM (5mKrx)
If Biden is as addled as all suspect then his input is taken and routinely ignored as his advisors all argue and fight with each other to get his or her pick in as the successor-in-waiting. Like some Latin American country were El Generalissimo is dying and the scarmble has begun.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Boo Hoo? You Do! Pity Party Supplies at The Outrage Outlet! at August 10, 2020 04:06 PM (ElqsY)
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And CEO pay, especially for those larger companies, is pretty heavily in stock options. Which means the shock headlines are typically for whichever CEO's company happened to have a major surge in stock price that year.
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Sort of. Typical fortune 500 CEO salaries aren't super high, usually in the 500K - 900K range. But the stock options and grants usually make total income about 10M a year. They're incentivized to drive up the stock price, obviously.
Some years are better than others and it really depends on the industry.
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Sort of. Typical fortune 500 CEO salaries aren't super high, usually in the 500K - 900K range. But the stock options and grants usually make total income about 10M a year. They're incentivized to drive up the stock price, obviously.
Some years are better than others and it really depends on the industry.
Posted by: MJ at August 10, 2020 04:06 PM (gAMkn)
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Like Gwyneth Paltrow's $15K gold vibrator.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (rCwaK)
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Thanks for the new tag.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (rCwaK)
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Thanks for the new tag.
Posted by: Gilded Age II, now with $15,000 gilded vibrators! at August 10, 2020 04:06 PM (BRkq2)
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There is a boat at my marina that is festooned with his college sportsball logo. The boat is painted in that color. And then he has flags on it and the cover is the team logo and all sorts of shit, even the bumpers are that color.
And I find that really regraded and pathetic. Like dude you are 50 years old. Your college days were 30 years ago. Move on with your life.
And I find that really regraded and pathetic. Like dude you are 50 years old. Your college days were 30 years ago. Move on with your life.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 04:06 PM (ha6Lb)
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Honey Crisp apples ftw!!
Posted by: tubal at August 10, 2020 04:06 PM (bCLt0)
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Like I was going to believe they had a PHD from bumfuck, India. Most of them could barely stop drooling long enough to vomit some tech babble that might have been English.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (IYZ+m)
And if there's a legitimate University of Mysore with a real Ph.D program, there's probably a fly by night Mysore University with almost identical paperwork that will sell you any diploma you want for $1000 per level claimed.
Good luck trying to figure out which is which with Google Translate.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (IYZ+m)
And if there's a legitimate University of Mysore with a real Ph.D program, there's probably a fly by night Mysore University with almost identical paperwork that will sell you any diploma you want for $1000 per level claimed.
Good luck trying to figure out which is which with Google Translate.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 04:06 PM (TAXCv)
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Huge war going on--cross your fingers that the bad guys back down.
Posted by: artemis at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (AwPyG)
I don't want them to play the season. I want them to lose billions. I want them dead. I would gladly give up sports to wreck academia.
Posted by: artemis at August 10, 2020 03:55 PM (AwPyG)
I don't want them to play the season. I want them to lose billions. I want them dead. I would gladly give up sports to wreck academia.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at August 10, 2020 04:07 PM (J70i0)
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Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 03:49 PM (TAXCv)
In the late 90's and early 2000's, I worked in the Tech education industry in Denver.
We were doing really well, educating Americans to get full time jobs, and then?
We suddenly could not tie into any Fed Training dollars unless we were a College Accredited school.
At the exact same time, they drastically increased the number of H1B visas, so companies started hiring Foreigners, vice spending money to train their own internal employees.
These things killed the Tech training industry. Within 3 years our business was cut by more than 75%.
Add in that every Business application or program has a 3-5 year life cycle? Where major updates make mean you either need to retrain your techs, or REPLACE them?
Then add in the Tribal Nature of those coming from other nations, where once an Indian or Pakistani got into a management position, they would no longer hire Americans?
And you can then understand why I just finally said F it, and retired early.
In the late 90's and early 2000's, I worked in the Tech education industry in Denver.
We were doing really well, educating Americans to get full time jobs, and then?
We suddenly could not tie into any Fed Training dollars unless we were a College Accredited school.
At the exact same time, they drastically increased the number of H1B visas, so companies started hiring Foreigners, vice spending money to train their own internal employees.
These things killed the Tech training industry. Within 3 years our business was cut by more than 75%.
Add in that every Business application or program has a 3-5 year life cycle? Where major updates make mean you either need to retrain your techs, or REPLACE them?
Then add in the Tribal Nature of those coming from other nations, where once an Indian or Pakistani got into a management position, they would no longer hire Americans?
And you can then understand why I just finally said F it, and retired early.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2020 04:07 PM (NgKpN)
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Median CEO total compensation in the US for 2020: $1,518,000 as per
salary.com - not sure where the estimates of $250K are coming from.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (qlFIA)
That was CEO compensation for a mid-sized nursing home company I worked for in the mid-90's. That leaves out the golden parachute, healthcare coverage after employment, stock options, etc.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at August 10, 2020 04:02 PM (J70i0)
Bottom line for me, I generally don't care what anyone makes. CEOs or otherwise, but the CEO class has, by and large, abandoned any so-called conservative principles, and has taken up with the marxists and the CCP.
They are, by and large, the enemy.
I'm not above taking away from my enemy, that which they "may" have legitimately earned.
salary.com - not sure where the estimates of $250K are coming from.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2020 04:00 PM (qlFIA)
That was CEO compensation for a mid-sized nursing home company I worked for in the mid-90's. That leaves out the golden parachute, healthcare coverage after employment, stock options, etc.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at August 10, 2020 04:02 PM (J70i0)
Bottom line for me, I generally don't care what anyone makes. CEOs or otherwise, but the CEO class has, by and large, abandoned any so-called conservative principles, and has taken up with the marxists and the CCP.
They are, by and large, the enemy.
I'm not above taking away from my enemy, that which they "may" have legitimately earned.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2020 04:07 PM (hku12)
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I saw that honey crisps are out on the shelves at the mom and pop apple orchards in NC.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 04:07 PM (0KD36)
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Mysore. Funny name, that.
Posted by: tubal at August 10, 2020 04:07 PM (bCLt0)
332
306
Trump now behind 50% who men who use Axe deodorant.
Posted by: Snickersleeves at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (oDRcK)
Unpossible, no men use Axe deodorant.
Trump now behind 50% who men who use Axe deodorant.
Posted by: Snickersleeves at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (oDRcK)
Unpossible, no men use Axe deodorant.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Boo Hoo? You Do! Pity Party Supplies at The Outrage Outlet! at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (ElqsY)
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Rasmussen: 6 out of 10 voters have Biden in their Dead Pool
Posted by: x at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (nFwvY)
I'd love to see Biden meme'd as Deadpool. But the left wouldn't get the joke.
Posted by: x at August 10, 2020 03:45 PM (nFwvY)
I'd love to see Biden meme'd as Deadpool. But the left wouldn't get the joke.
Posted by: Chunk Hunger at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (uhPTO)
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BabylonBee:
Biden Campaign Warns That For Debate Biden Will Need A Mask That Completely Conceals His Face And He Might Sound Different
Biden Campaign Warns That For Debate Biden Will Need A Mask That Completely Conceals His Face And He Might Sound Different
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (3aI0K)
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My grandparents were kicked off of their land with
no more than 2 cents on the dollar compensation for their farm, house
and outbuildings.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:59 PM (JUOKG)
Familiar with that one, too. The other side of the family was paid
insultingly low amounts while being forced out of property in Cades Cove
(now a national park, all modern buildings torn down. Probably would
have been another Gatlinburg, if not for the Feds. Beautiful place.)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 04:02 PM
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Yep and the Army Corps of Engineers claimed they paid reasonable compensation to people who lost their land.
Nearly 60,000 acres of land taken and turned over to private contractors by the Army.
no more than 2 cents on the dollar compensation for their farm, house
and outbuildings.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 03:59 PM (JUOKG)
Familiar with that one, too. The other side of the family was paid
insultingly low amounts while being forced out of property in Cades Cove
(now a national park, all modern buildings torn down. Probably would
have been another Gatlinburg, if not for the Feds. Beautiful place.)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 04:02 PM
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Yep and the Army Corps of Engineers claimed they paid reasonable compensation to people who lost their land.
Nearly 60,000 acres of land taken and turned over to private contractors by the Army.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (JUOKG)
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Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., said the TVA doesn't get any taxpayer money
TVA owes more than $20 billion to the Treasury.
TVA owes more than $20 billion to the Treasury.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (I2/tG)
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Now imagine Alabama playing a late November game with an early snow
Posted by: Buzzion at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (YcdWn)
LOL.
Like Ohio State plays smash mouth football in the trenches and the snow wouldn't screw them as well.
But, I guess since there are no real grass fields anymore, maybe it doesn't matter.
Now imagine Alabama playing a late November game with an early snow
Posted by: Buzzion at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (YcdWn)
LOL.
Like Ohio State plays smash mouth football in the trenches and the snow wouldn't screw them as well.
But, I guess since there are no real grass fields anymore, maybe it doesn't matter.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (Zz0t1)
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Australians find drug Ivermectin kills Covid-19, it's a anti parasite medicine.
Coming soon.... Ivermectin will have to be banned in the USA because they can't do accelerated vaccine trials if there is a treatment. Which is another reason they are killing HCQ.
/because Dr. Fauci deserves to get millions from a vaccine company he has interest in to cure a disease that he helped finance.
Coming soon.... Ivermectin will have to be banned in the USA because they can't do accelerated vaccine trials if there is a treatment. Which is another reason they are killing HCQ.
/because Dr. Fauci deserves to get millions from a vaccine company he has interest in to cure a disease that he helped finance.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (ZCiJZ)
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Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (JUOKG)
And people wonder why we don't trust the government.
And people wonder why we don't trust the government.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (TAXCv)
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chicken wings, chili and beers.
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To be honest people aren't going to stop eating just because sportsing isn't happening. it's the time to be inventive and use something else as a pretext to people hanging out and watching something different every weekend.
I propose a new sport called Beat The Fuck Out of Antifa.
Every week a different team will take turns breaking antifa teeth in, starting with Grandmas and Their Nightsticks vs Antifa #138 of Asheville.
***********
To be honest people aren't going to stop eating just because sportsing isn't happening. it's the time to be inventive and use something else as a pretext to people hanging out and watching something different every weekend.
I propose a new sport called Beat The Fuck Out of Antifa.
Every week a different team will take turns breaking antifa teeth in, starting with Grandmas and Their Nightsticks vs Antifa #138 of Asheville.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Singing REO Speedwagon in a Manly Manner at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (+dsLj)
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property in Cades Cove (now a national park, all modern buildings torn down.
I've camped at Cades Cove in the Smokies; beautiful setting. There was a loop drive around some abandoned farm buildings, perhaps your family's?
I've camped at Cades Cove in the Smokies; beautiful setting. There was a loop drive around some abandoned farm buildings, perhaps your family's?
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2020 04:09 PM (y7DUB)
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 04:09 PM (ha6Lb)
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@327
college football hasn't gone crazy left (yet) which is why the "coronabros" want to destroy them. No politics, and they even allow the Christian players to profess Christ, if they want to (see: trevor lawrence,)
It's a different deal than the stupid NBA and NFL who (I agree) should go broke
college football hasn't gone crazy left (yet) which is why the "coronabros" want to destroy them. No politics, and they even allow the Christian players to profess Christ, if they want to (see: trevor lawrence,)
It's a different deal than the stupid NBA and NFL who (I agree) should go broke
Posted by: artemis at August 10, 2020 04:09 PM (AwPyG)
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I wonder what is actually more pathetic. Being a fan of college football for entertainment. Or coming back to a blog where you've previously gotten banned under two names already for being a prick.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 10, 2020 04:09 PM (YcdWn)
Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2020 04:09 PM (gmo/4)
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For those who don't believe that a $15,000 vibrator exists, it's called the Lelo Inez. I won't link to it, but you can find it. There's a stainless steel version of the Inez that goes for a mere $7900.
For those who don't believe that a $15,000 vibrator exists, it's called the Lelo Inez. I won't link to it, but you can find it. There's a stainless steel version of the Inez that goes for a mere $7900.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 10, 2020 04:10 PM (rCwaK)
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Now imagine Alabama playing a late November game with an early snow
Posted by: Buzzion at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (YcdWn)
You mean where they have to travel more than a couple of hours? Can't they just bring the snow to their stadium for another home game? We can't have players only set for speed play in non-pristine conditions.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 10, 2020 04:03 PM (YcdWn)
You mean where they have to travel more than a couple of hours? Can't they just bring the snow to their stadium for another home game? We can't have players only set for speed play in non-pristine conditions.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at August 10, 2020 04:10 PM (J70i0)
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If that was directed at moron robbie, he was never banned. Just getting a bit less visible.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 04:10 PM (0KD36)
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For those who don't believe that a $15,000 vibrator exists, it's called the Lelo Inez. I won't link to it, but you can find it. There's a stainless steel version of the Inez that goes for a mere $7900.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 10, 2020 04:10 PM (rCwaK)
Wonder what the zinc plated ones go for??
For those who don't believe that a $15,000 vibrator exists, it's called the Lelo Inez. I won't link to it, but you can find it. There's a stainless steel version of the Inez that goes for a mere $7900.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at August 10, 2020 04:10 PM (rCwaK)
Wonder what the zinc plated ones go for??
Posted by: tubal at August 10, 2020 04:10 PM (bCLt0)
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So 100 black "leaders" have warned Biden to pick a black woman for Veep, or else.
Does half-Indian, half-Jamaican count?
Asking for a friend.
Does half-Indian, half-Jamaican count?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: NOT Kamala Harris! at August 10, 2020 04:11 PM (I2/tG)
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Yep, college football has gallantly resisted the racist-totalitarian vandalism that has ravaged America's civic culture, unlike pro sports.
Posted by: Oklahoma State football at August 10, 2020 04:11 PM (OTzUX)
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Money spent on sportsball wont suddenly cease to exist. Instead of spending time at a bar watching sportsball people will spend time at a bar I dont know talking about politics. People will still go to cars and drink and eat. There is a world outside football for fucks sake.
Posted by: Asshoes at August 10, 2020 04:11 PM (ha6Lb)
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Then add in the Tribal Nature of those coming from other nations, where once an Indian or Pakistani got into a management position, they would no longer hire Americans?
Posted by: Romeo13
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I've seen things that are beyond borderline illegal in that area.
Posted by: Romeo13
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I've seen things that are beyond borderline illegal in that area.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 10, 2020 04:11 PM (kA3Cp)
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nood kneel
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2020 04:11 PM (an7Mv)
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Fiona Apples are a good source of heroin.
Posted by: spindrift at August 10, 2020 04:12 PM (h5TKJ)
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And if there's a legitimate University of Mysore with a real Ph.D program, there's probably a fly by night Mysore University with almost identical paperwork that will sell you any diploma you want for $1000 per level claimed.
Good luck trying to figure out which is which with Google Translate.
Posted by: Cato
Mysore, India is on the border with Uranus, Pakistan.
Good luck trying to figure out which is which with Google Translate.
Posted by: Cato
Mysore, India is on the border with Uranus, Pakistan.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2020 04:12 PM (U3fW+)
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If CEO Fucktard was disincentivized for firing Americans it wouldn't happen. The problem is the way his comp is structured, it doesn't matter to him.
What Window Lickers like Alexander don't realize is that Americans are constantly losing their jobs to assholes like this who probably are all in on BLM, just not average Americans.
It's about time these CEO's got back to doing their fucking jobs and caring about every single person who works for them, not the Twitter mob and mouth breathing stalkers filing up their in boxes.
What Window Lickers like Alexander don't realize is that Americans are constantly losing their jobs to assholes like this who probably are all in on BLM, just not average Americans.
It's about time these CEO's got back to doing their fucking jobs and caring about every single person who works for them, not the Twitter mob and mouth breathing stalkers filing up their in boxes.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at August 10, 2020 04:14 PM (CKyRi)
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college football hasn't gone crazy left (yet) which
is why the "coronabros" want to destroy them. No politics, and they even
allow the Christian players to profess Christ, if they want to (see:
trevor lawrence,)
It's a different deal than the stupid NBA and NFL who (I agree) should go broke
Posted by: artemis at August 10, 2020 04:09 PM (AwPyG)
Really? ESPN is running headlines almost everyday about some coach being accused of racism. One coach had to apologize because a player didn't like his OAN t-shirt. They are as woke as anyplace and it's coming through. I wish them nothing buy their own self-destruction.
is why the "coronabros" want to destroy them. No politics, and they even
allow the Christian players to profess Christ, if they want to (see:
trevor lawrence,)
It's a different deal than the stupid NBA and NFL who (I agree) should go broke
Posted by: artemis at August 10, 2020 04:09 PM (AwPyG)
Really? ESPN is running headlines almost everyday about some coach being accused of racism. One coach had to apologize because a player didn't like his OAN t-shirt. They are as woke as anyplace and it's coming through. I wish them nothing buy their own self-destruction.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at August 10, 2020 04:14 PM (J70i0)
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338 Australians find drug Ivermectin kills Covid-19, it's a anti parasite medicine.
Coming soon.... Ivermectin will have to be banned in the USA because they can't do accelerated vaccine trials if there is a treatment. Which is another reason they are killing HCQ.
/because Dr. Fauci deserves to get millions from a vaccine company he has interest in to cure a disease that he helped finance.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (ZCiJZ)
Posted earlier, but willowed:
https://c19study.com/
Every study on HCQ, listed and detailed.
early HCQ use shows amazing results.
This website will never be mentioned by any Progda news outlet.
The site is updated daily, and is a good information source.
Coming soon.... Ivermectin will have to be banned in the USA because they can't do accelerated vaccine trials if there is a treatment. Which is another reason they are killing HCQ.
/because Dr. Fauci deserves to get millions from a vaccine company he has interest in to cure a disease that he helped finance.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at August 10, 2020 04:08 PM (ZCiJZ)
Posted earlier, but willowed:
https://c19study.com/
Every study on HCQ, listed and detailed.
early HCQ use shows amazing results.
This website will never be mentioned by any Progda news outlet.
The site is updated daily, and is a good information source.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 10, 2020 04:15 PM (sy5kK)
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Yep, college football has gallantly resisted the
racist-totalitarian vandalism that has ravaged America's civic culture,
unlike pro sports.
Posted by: Oklahoma State football at August 10, 2020 04:11 PM (OTzUX)
The sarcasm is strong with you, my friend.
racist-totalitarian vandalism that has ravaged America's civic culture,
unlike pro sports.
Posted by: Oklahoma State football at August 10, 2020 04:11 PM (OTzUX)
The sarcasm is strong with you, my friend.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at August 10, 2020 04:15 PM (J70i0)
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348 If that was directed at moron robbie, he was never banned. Just getting a bit less visible.
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 04:10 PM (0KD36)
No it's directed at "Asshoes" aka Lurking Lurker aka MooMoo
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 04:10 PM (0KD36)
No it's directed at "Asshoes" aka Lurking Lurker aka MooMoo
Posted by: Buzzion at August 10, 2020 04:16 PM (YcdWn)
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check
Posted by: Charles Darwin is a write supremacist at August 10, 2020 04:16 PM (0KD36)
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DJT calls out Portland to bring in NG troops to stop protests.
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2020 04:19 PM (OjZpE)
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LAMAR! is Tennessee's inbred retarded Corker.
Posted by: Minuteman at August 10, 2020 04:19 PM (O6RWq)
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I've camped at Cades Cove in the Smokies; beautiful setting. There was a loop drive around some abandoned farm buildings, perhaps your family's?
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2020 04:09 PM (y7DUB)
Along the trail to Gregory's Cave, in a wooded area, there's an old, early-modern foundation nobody bothered to remove. My grandmother was born there. Everything with the name Gregory on it belonged to some part of that branch.
The Russell Gregory in the cemetery described as being ambushed and murdered by North Carolina rebels was my ancestor. He was a Union militia Captain that raised the force to protect the town. (The assasination didn't have the desired effect, the militia was enraged and drove the rebels back across the border).
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2020 04:09 PM (y7DUB)
Along the trail to Gregory's Cave, in a wooded area, there's an old, early-modern foundation nobody bothered to remove. My grandmother was born there. Everything with the name Gregory on it belonged to some part of that branch.
The Russell Gregory in the cemetery described as being ambushed and murdered by North Carolina rebels was my ancestor. He was a Union militia Captain that raised the force to protect the town. (The assasination didn't have the desired effect, the militia was enraged and drove the rebels back across the border).
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 10, 2020 04:20 PM (TAXCv)
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If you are an apple lover, try those Cosmic Crisp apples! They are amazing!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
I had a VERY awkward conversation with a colleague who totally into the whole organic/vegan/non-GMO thing when it comes to food. It went like this:
Me: "Try those new Cosmic Crisp apples! They're delicious."
Him: "Oh no, I would never do that! I refuse to eat genetically modified food."
Me: "You do realize that it was made simply by cross-breeding existing varietals, right?"
Him: "Yes, and that's human interference. It still counts as genetic modified even if not done in a lab."
Me: "Ummmmm...isn't nearly every single fruit and vegetable we eat these days the product of this exact same kind of manipulation?"
Him: "What??"
Me: "When tomatoes were first discovered, they were tiny, bitter and poisonous, took hundreds of years to breed big juicy healthy ones. ALL modern-day tomatoes are the result of 'genetic modification." Same is true for potatoes, oranges, wheat, etc. etc. etc. -- including apples."
Him: "Wha--????"
Me: "If you really wanted to avoid ALL GMO food, you could only eat wild herbs foraged in the forest and wild boar you hunt yourself. If it's in a supermarket, it's the result of genetic modification by humans. Pretty much withoiut exception."
Him: (Silently stomps off in a huff.)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
I had a VERY awkward conversation with a colleague who totally into the whole organic/vegan/non-GMO thing when it comes to food. It went like this:
Me: "Try those new Cosmic Crisp apples! They're delicious."
Him: "Oh no, I would never do that! I refuse to eat genetically modified food."
Me: "You do realize that it was made simply by cross-breeding existing varietals, right?"
Him: "Yes, and that's human interference. It still counts as genetic modified even if not done in a lab."
Me: "Ummmmm...isn't nearly every single fruit and vegetable we eat these days the product of this exact same kind of manipulation?"
Him: "What??"
Me: "When tomatoes were first discovered, they were tiny, bitter and poisonous, took hundreds of years to breed big juicy healthy ones. ALL modern-day tomatoes are the result of 'genetic modification." Same is true for potatoes, oranges, wheat, etc. etc. etc. -- including apples."
Him: "Wha--????"
Me: "If you really wanted to avoid ALL GMO food, you could only eat wild herbs foraged in the forest and wild boar you hunt yourself. If it's in a supermarket, it's the result of genetic modification by humans. Pretty much withoiut exception."
Him: (Silently stomps off in a huff.)
Posted by: zombie at August 10, 2020 04:21 PM (HEEq1)
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It has now metastasized into a behemoth that in some places overshadows the academic function of the university.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
This. Here in Indiana there is a rivalry between IU and Purdue. We used to say Purdue is a good school with an athletic department. IU is an athletic department with a big school attached. Now they both suck.
Sigh, I miss Bob Knight.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
This. Here in Indiana there is a rivalry between IU and Purdue. We used to say Purdue is a good school with an athletic department. IU is an athletic department with a big school attached. Now they both suck.
Sigh, I miss Bob Knight.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 10, 2020 04:21 PM (Vxu+H)
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"For once I'm *actually* just spitballing but I sincerely wonder if the
planned Biden VP pick backed out and left them scrambling. Think about
what they are going to have to go through, only to be part of a losing
ticket..."
Makes perfect sense. Historically, being the VP nominee on a losing ticket is the high-water mark of one's political career. I can't think of a single case where someone lost as the VP nominee, then later went on to win as either VP or P.
"For once I'm *actually* just spitballing but I sincerely wonder if the
planned Biden VP pick backed out and left them scrambling. Think about
what they are going to have to go through, only to be part of a losing
ticket..."
Makes perfect sense. Historically, being the VP nominee on a losing ticket is the high-water mark of one's political career. I can't think of a single case where someone lost as the VP nominee, then later went on to win as either VP or P.
Posted by: craig at August 10, 2020 04:25 PM (vk68T)
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Lamar Alexander proves the Z-man's point: we aren't voting our way out of this. There is going to be an economic crisis that's going to make 2008 look like a birthday party, a birthday party with a rental pony. If we're lucky the nation will survive it, but on the bright side few of our "leadership" class will.
Posted by: DFCtomm at August 10, 2020 04:26 PM (50gG9)
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Is TVA even the equivalent of a regulated but "private" utility company? If not, then CEO pay is a legit topic for public policy. One doesn't see Trump mentioning or caring about the compensation of real CEOs.
This is not complicated.
Posted by: rhomboid
I don't think the TVA is still considered a public-private corporation as FDR originally conceived it. The whole argument about the TVA was why Wendell Wilkie ran for President in 1940; Wilkie actually was an executive of a major private utility, who saw the TVA as a subsidized competitor.
Still, even though I think the TVA has largely been privatized, this is a leverage issue for Trump, regarding bringing in H1B visa holders to replace Americans. The purpose of the H1B was to allow foreign nationals to be hired for a job that had no American expertise. I know that many years ago, the company I worked for had as the Technical Director a foreign national (who later became a US citizen) who was hired away from a competitor.
They still had to advertise for the job, to get applications from Americans (nobody wanted the job).
The whole H1B visa thing has gotten out of hand. The TVA was literally hiring cheaper help from overseas to get rid of their native American employees. There was competent American employees. Disney and other companies have done the same screwy two-faced dealio.
This is not complicated.
Posted by: rhomboid
I don't think the TVA is still considered a public-private corporation as FDR originally conceived it. The whole argument about the TVA was why Wendell Wilkie ran for President in 1940; Wilkie actually was an executive of a major private utility, who saw the TVA as a subsidized competitor.
Still, even though I think the TVA has largely been privatized, this is a leverage issue for Trump, regarding bringing in H1B visa holders to replace Americans. The purpose of the H1B was to allow foreign nationals to be hired for a job that had no American expertise. I know that many years ago, the company I worked for had as the Technical Director a foreign national (who later became a US citizen) who was hired away from a competitor.
They still had to advertise for the job, to get applications from Americans (nobody wanted the job).
The whole H1B visa thing has gotten out of hand. The TVA was literally hiring cheaper help from overseas to get rid of their native American employees. There was competent American employees. Disney and other companies have done the same screwy two-faced dealio.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 10, 2020 04:27 PM (vcOmj)
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139 Reducing the onerous cost of business through deregulation and cutting the throats of unions is the way to encourage more American hiring. If you're running a business that barely is staying afloat, being able to hire people for a fraction of a cost greatly reduces your biggest expense: personnel. Reduce that effect, and you reduce the pressure to hire outside the USA.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (KZzsI)
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Since women only make $.77 for men's $1.00, fire all the men and hire women! 23% labor savings. Easy, peasy.
I use that argument when a woman says women make less for the same job.
I then tell her to make me a sandwich.
139 Reducing the onerous cost of business through deregulation and cutting the throats of unions is the way to encourage more American hiring. If you're running a business that barely is staying afloat, being able to hire people for a fraction of a cost greatly reduces your biggest expense: personnel. Reduce that effect, and you reduce the pressure to hire outside the USA.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (KZzsI)
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Since women only make $.77 for men's $1.00, fire all the men and hire women! 23% labor savings. Easy, peasy.
I use that argument when a woman says women make less for the same job.
I then tell her to make me a sandwich.
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at August 10, 2020 04:28 PM (0ta/n)
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Reducing the onerous cost of business through deregulation and cutting the throats of unions is the way to encourage more American hiring. If you're running a business that barely is staying afloat, being able to hire people for a fraction of a cost greatly reduces your biggest expense: personnel. Reduce that effect, and you reduce the pressure to hire outside the USA.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (KZzsI)
The unions, other than public sector unions, have been broken for two decades now, and they were broken by foreign labor. News flash it's 2020 not 2001.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2020 03:39 PM (KZzsI)
The unions, other than public sector unions, have been broken for two decades now, and they were broken by foreign labor. News flash it's 2020 not 2001.
Posted by: DFCtomm at August 10, 2020 04:32 PM (50gG9)
Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at August 10, 2020 04:49 PM (y5oH4)
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I have an idea for a way to reduce H1B abuse...
One type of protected class under the Civil Rights Act is "national origin".
When you fire a cheap American worker in favor of a cheaper foreigner on an H1B, that could be considered two counts of national origin discrimination per position, don't you think? After all, it does fit the definition of discriminating against both the American and the foreign worker; you're firing the American because he's American and therefore has a higher cost of living (thus can't take a big pay cut), and you're discriminating against the foreign replacement by bringing him in just because you can pay him less.
One type of protected class under the Civil Rights Act is "national origin".
When you fire a cheap American worker in favor of a cheaper foreigner on an H1B, that could be considered two counts of national origin discrimination per position, don't you think? After all, it does fit the definition of discriminating against both the American and the foreign worker; you're firing the American because he's American and therefore has a higher cost of living (thus can't take a big pay cut), and you're discriminating against the foreign replacement by bringing him in just because you can pay him less.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at August 10, 2020 05:10 PM (H3MF8)
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Whoops, typo... I didn't mean to say the American was cheap.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at August 10, 2020 05:12 PM (H3MF8)
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At any rate, I applaud this move by President Trump!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at August 10, 2020 05:13 PM (H3MF8)
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Nice gesture that, Lamar! giving a handy to his owners.
Posted by: aelfheld at August 10, 2020 05:32 PM (IxDhF)
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It is so appropriate that Lamer would defend a NEW DEAL RELIC'S right to transfer corporate welfare to South Asian tech moguls looking to muscle their way into that critical economic sector of Appalachian public utility industry. It is just the epitome of GOPe.
Posted by: Son of Prognostimacator at August 10, 2020 05:44 PM (mX3Ey)
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Democrats breed rioters and looters. Doesn't matter their race or background, dems fundamentally do not understand the need to civilize people to be participants of and contributors to society. Trump is supporting working men and women of all races, religions, etc.
Posted by: iandeal at August 10, 2020 05:48 PM (vgGyZ)
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"18 Lyash should be forced to 'train' his replacement.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (vIxqx)"
I like how you think!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2020 03:21 PM (vIxqx)"
I like how you think!
Posted by: Ihatecommies at August 10, 2020 06:45 PM (E2Vzz)
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Bet ya the foreign workers were supposed to kick back a % of their salaries to boot.
Posted by: Detroit Pete at August 10, 2020 08:34 PM (Q7RCx)
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Oh Please Mr. President, fire that slimedog son of a bitch Jeff Lying Ass.
Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at August 10, 2020 11:43 PM (0tmoY)
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THIS is the very reason Lamar is out of a job come Nov. He wanted to r'un again but we Tennesseans sent a VERY clear message to him that we are TIRED of the RINOS this State sends pretending to be "conservatives". We got rid of Corker and now it is his turn. He also turned on PDT and didnt support him several times and that sealed the deal.
Lamar decided not to run again and "retire". Truth is, WE, in Tennessee, "retired" him so why would PDT listen to him? He is a nothing.
In TN we love the TVA but not this version of the TVA. The TVA we knew and grew up with provided Energy AND great jobs for our Neighbors. It was a wonder and a thing to be proud of--a LOT of us knew someone who worked at TVA and those were great, coveted Jobs. That changed about 15 yrs ago and now we have THIS incarnation that still provides (sort of) the service but ALSO allowed the disgrace of the "Accident" that happened a couple of years ago (COAL ASH) that actually has killed those working to clean it up!
TVA needs a Housecleaning, NOT a Senator making excuses for it.
We in TN were GLAD to see Rep Tim Burchette who just was elected and has LONG been a Critic of TVA as the lone Rep in the meeting with PDT at the White House along with the Tech Workers who were going to be displaced (along with other Techs being replaced).
Burchette introduced the TVA Transparency Act so the Bd Mtgs (long shrouded in secrecy) will be made PUBLIC as they should.
Lamar is history--he had his time, he stayed PAST it, WE replaced him.
Lamar decided not to run again and "retire". Truth is, WE, in Tennessee, "retired" him so why would PDT listen to him? He is a nothing.
In TN we love the TVA but not this version of the TVA. The TVA we knew and grew up with provided Energy AND great jobs for our Neighbors. It was a wonder and a thing to be proud of--a LOT of us knew someone who worked at TVA and those were great, coveted Jobs. That changed about 15 yrs ago and now we have THIS incarnation that still provides (sort of) the service but ALSO allowed the disgrace of the "Accident" that happened a couple of years ago (COAL ASH) that actually has killed those working to clean it up!
TVA needs a Housecleaning, NOT a Senator making excuses for it.
We in TN were GLAD to see Rep Tim Burchette who just was elected and has LONG been a Critic of TVA as the lone Rep in the meeting with PDT at the White House along with the Tech Workers who were going to be displaced (along with other Techs being replaced).
Burchette introduced the TVA Transparency Act so the Bd Mtgs (long shrouded in secrecy) will be made PUBLIC as they should.
Lamar is history--he had his time, he stayed PAST it, WE replaced him.
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