Horrible: Democrats on DC Circuit Court of Appeals Agree to Full En Banc Hearing of Flynn Case

It's plain they're just trying to delay this until they can get a change of AG.

The entire Federal Appeals Court in Washington said on Thursday that it would take up a case involving Attorney General William P. Barr's decision to drop the prosecution of President Trump's former national security adviser Michael T. Flynn, erasing a split decision by a three-judge panel in June ordering an immediate end to the case.

A terse order from the Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said that a majority of its members had voted to erase a June 24 panel decision ordering the immediate dismissal of the case against Mr. Flynn, and set oral arguments before the full court for Aug. 11.

A majority of the Court of Appeals' members are Democrats.

By the way, the DC Court of Appeals is the most important court in America, after the Supreme Court. That's because it's the court of appeals for almost every single case involving the US government, which of course is located in DC.

And of course it will be the court of appeals for most political trials.

And expect many, many more political trials, if we lose in November.

It was for the purposes of packing the DC Court with liberals that the Democrats fillibustered Miguel Estrada, who had been nominated to the court; it was for the purposes of packing the DC Court with liberals that the Democrats then got rid of the filibuster!

First they used it to keep a conservative off the court, then they got rid of it to pack the court with liberals.

The Democrats seem to understand the importance of judges, even if the "But Gorsuch" NeverTrump neoliberals don't (or pretend not to).

Thanks to Tom Servo.

Posted by: Ace at 12:55 PM




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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 30, 2020 12:56 PM (UWqZJ)

2 top 10??

Posted by: TwentytwoLR at July 30, 2020 12:56 PM (X2Olq)

3 missed it by........that much

Posted by: TwentytwoLR at July 30, 2020 12:57 PM (X2Olq)

4 I'm finding it harder and harder to show any allegiance to this country anymore.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 30, 2020 12:57 PM (7k/uO)

5 Of all the branches of government, the judiciary is the one the people trust the least.

This is one reason why. They don't protect the constitution. Judges protect their political benefactors and each other.

It's a disgrace.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 30, 2020 12:57 PM (VpIIl)

6 Good grief

Posted by: josephistan at July 30, 2020 12:57 PM (Izzlo)

7 Process is the meat grinder punishment

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2020 12:57 PM (d/vl/)

8 I served to preserve this country?

Posted by: Anchorman at July 30, 2020 12:58 PM (+ZoLn)

9 Further reinforces the opinion that judges are tyrants in black robes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2020 12:58 PM (d/vl/)

10 Yeah, well, who is really surprised by this?

What real standing does that idiot Sullivan really have in pursuing this?

He is neither the plaintiff nor the prosecutor.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at July 30, 2020 12:58 PM (vcOmj)

11 I'm so angry

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 12:58 PM (Zmnko)

12 I am hoping and working for a huge Trump victory in November. It's the only weapon we have against the total destruction of our country by people like these window-licking "jurists".

Posted by: Marcus T at July 30, 2020 12:59 PM (VpIIl)

13 I think Trump needs to pardon Flynn now. Of course that would send him up for impeachment, but I expect impeachment II is coming up over something anyway. This while U.S. Version of Kafka's "The Trial" needs to end NOW.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2020 12:59 PM (oDRcK)

14 The Democrats are vindictive, evil, vile, pieces of shit!

Posted by: redridinghood at July 30, 2020 12:59 PM (wiXsO)

15 I'm so angry

Hulk smash DC Circus?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2020 12:59 PM (d/vl/)

16 Yes, the goal is to delay and delay as long as possible for two reasons:

1) to hopefully get a new president in office to then railroad this guy
2) to delay any case which Flynn is somehow critical in.

The very day they announced they'd dropped the case against Flynn, the Trump administration announced a major push against the Coup members. Then, as soon as the judge decided he'd try Flynn anyway, that stalled.

There is something about Flynn's case or his ability to act freely which the Coup investigation hinges on or requires.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 12:59 PM (KZzsI)

17 Un-f*cking-believable.

Truly.

Un-f*cking-believable.

Posted by: Venus at July 30, 2020 12:59 PM (iYXhj)

18 12 I am hoping and working for a huge Trump victory in November. It's the only weapon we have against the total destruction of our country by people like these window-licking "jurists".

If Trump doesn't win by a landslide they will steal it from him

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:00 PM (Zmnko)

19 I'm so angry
Posted by: It's me donna


Anger leads to hate

Hate leads to the Dark Side.

Well, whatever floats your boat.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...last of Jedi commenters at July 30, 2020 01:00 PM (vcOmj)

20 What real standing does that idiot Sullivan really have in pursuing this?

Federal Judges are, as I understand it, the only jurists who are legally able to keep a case going if both sides drop it. This is allegedly to prevent corruption from getting cases dropped, but in this case is using corruption to keep a case going.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:00 PM (KZzsI)

21 @10 - Sullivan is a party to the mandamus motion.

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 30, 2020 01:01 PM (6mvRv)

22 If the defendant were an axe murderer from a protected class, buried under a mountain of physical evidence, these judges would trip over themselves to let xim go free because the 302s were doctored and lost.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at July 30, 2020 01:01 PM (uhPTO)

23 I'm finding it harder and harder to show any allegiance to this country anymore.

Posted by: LGoPs


Understand the difference between America and its Marxist-Globalist occupiers. Plan and act accordingly.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at July 30, 2020 01:01 PM (OUMaO)

24 There are plenty of Democrats the Horde would love to Force Choke.

Adam Schiffs-for-brains.
Nadler the Penguin
Rancid Tilapia
Doll Eyes Alex

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2020 01:01 PM (d/vl/)

25 I feel worst for Alex. It has to suck knowing that your entire profession is not only destroying its credibility, but actively making itself an enemy of the people. At least you can potentially ignore the media, but when these black-robes jackboots have unlimited power and no accountability?

"Hang them all," they said.

Posted by: trev006 at July 30, 2020 01:01 PM (A6Wna)

26 I think Trump needs to pardon Flynn now
***

Trump needs to arrest Biden and half of the Senate for being on the payroll of China. But he won't.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:01 PM (qlFIA)

27 19 I'm so angry
Posted by: It's me donna


Anger leads to hate

Got plenty of that right now for this assinine ruling

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:01 PM (Zmnko)

28 Yes, the goal is to delay and delay as long as possible for two reasons:

1) to hopefully get a new president in office to then railroad this guy
2) to delay any case which Flynn is somehow critical in.

The very day they announced they'd dropped the case against Flynn, the Trump administration announced a major push against the Coup members. Then, as soon as the judge decided he'd try Flynn anyway, that stalled.

There is something about Flynn's case or his ability to act freely which the Coup investigation hinges on or requires.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 12:59 PM (KZzsI)

**************************

Sorry, point 1makes no sense -- IF Trump loses the election in November, he is still POTUS and STILL HAS THE POWER TO PARDON until January 20, 2021.

Posted by: Venus at July 30, 2020 01:02 PM (iYXhj)

29 26 I think Trump needs to pardon Flynn now

Flynn didn't want that... He wants to be cleared... I say F' that and accept the pardon

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:03 PM (Zmnko)

30 Unrelated--and of course, f*ck the DC Circuit Court--but are the networks really bumping the news for more of this John Lewis horseshit?! The guy's been at room temperature nearly two weeks now!

Posted by: Dr. T at July 30, 2020 01:03 PM (Vgw1E)

31 Time to go to work, yay

https://youtu.be/7z4WJAEG3u8

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 30, 2020 01:04 PM (d/vl/)

32 buried under a mountain of physical evidence, these judges would trip
over themselves to let xim go free because the 302s were doctored and
lost.
***

I seem to recall they let a Kennedy Klan member go after he brutally murdered a girl with a golf club. I can't even remember what excuse they used but I remember it being bullshit.


Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:04 PM (qlFIA)

33 Just you wait and see!!!!!!!!

(Hurls insults at anyone that distrusts the government actually delivering justice)

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2020 01:04 PM (gAXii)

34 Unbelievable. If society is going where I think it is, those "judges" may want to reconsider.

Posted by: Shinjinrui at July 30, 2020 01:05 PM (Gb130)

35 Gonna keep asking if these commies in the big blue cities know where their food comes from.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at July 30, 2020 01:05 PM (AgR7f)

36 Posted by: trev006 at July 30, 2020 01:01 PM (A6Wna)

It's not her entire profession. I'm sure AtC knows quite a few reputable and possibly conservative lawyers. She has admitted she doesn't much like judges, but not everyone who becomes a lawyers becomes a judge.

It would be like me thinking all clergy are molesting kids because some did. I don't think that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2020 01:05 PM (oDRcK)

37 IF Trump loses the election in November, he is still POTUS and STILL HAS THE POWER TO PARDON until January 20, 2021.

If he uses it. If not, then they have a new AG and justice department goes into full political mode again. And even if Trump pardons Flynn, the coup investigation stops and it doesn't matter what he knows

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:05 PM (KZzsI)

38 #durhamreportnow

Posted by: phoenixgirl at July 30, 2020 01:05 PM (CqHIp)

39 Ponder this upon the Tree of Woe:

If the dems win the Presidential election, expect to see not only full spectrum ops from the bench in terms of decisions like this, but expect to see the likes of Peter Strozok, McCabe and the lovely homewrecker Lisa Page reinstated to their positions or similar ones.

Take that to the bank. With back pay, too.

Posted by: Dicks out for Harambe at July 30, 2020 01:05 PM (xyImL)

40 Marx said- 'Go for the Robes' -the academics, the clergy, and the jurists.
Mao said 'if you want to catch a whale you need a long rope.
fuckers hve been working on this for over 100 yearsthey assume boomers and later generations are too fat lazy stupid and greedyto stop them

Posted by: lunatic fringe-i know i'm out there. at July 30, 2020 01:05 PM (Mce6+)

41 Horrible: Democrats on DC Circuit Court of Appeals Agree to Full En Banc Hearing of Flynn Case

As long as there's another court to whom they can bump an egregious decision, why would they not? The Supreme Court should get to the appeal next summer.

Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2020 01:06 PM (3fR4G)

42 Speaking of maintaining oppression via the established system, I'm thoroughly enjoying watching Democrat rioters yelling about injustices against black people as they burn down Atlanta, and then a couple of weeks later the exact same people celebrating a black Democrat representing Atlanta for decades after he died.

This show is fantastic.

Posted by: Charles Darwin Doing the Humpty Dance on the Interstate at July 30, 2020 01:06 PM (nkwL+)

43 I spent some of my life defending this country and have numerous relatives currently doing the same--something which we've done since the Revolutionary War, through all the Branches.

Pretty nauseating, seeing what they've done to my country lately. Like we wasted a lot of time and effort.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 30, 2020 01:06 PM (KATBx)

44 I'm finding it harder and harder to show any allegiance to this country anymore.

When Obama was re-elected, I stopped putting the flag out any longer. The republic is dead, its just a matter of how long before the nation crumbles. Unless God shows mercy on us despite being carpeted with the tiny bones of infants.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:07 PM (KZzsI)

45 Their perfidy will be their downfall. Justice will be delayed, but exoneration and vindication will come. This should put absolute resolve into the President's spine to exact a price and not play along, nor turn the other cheek. It is written; let it be so

Posted by: Uncle Max at July 30, 2020 01:07 PM (8cUgT)

46 Ugh.

You know the Dem judges had already made their decision without needing any facts except that Flynn was a Trump guy.

We are basically well on our way to becoming a full blown banana republic.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at July 30, 2020 01:07 PM (9hauA)

47 IF Trump loses the election in November, he is still POTUS and STILL HAS THE POWER TO PARDON until January 20, 2021.

Do you think a pardon, i.e., laws, will keep you free? Buy stock in Big Boxcar.

Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2020 01:08 PM (3fR4G)

48 Sigh. The rule of law is gone. It's been gone sine the first Hawaiian judge overruled Trump on... whatever.

It's Chinatown now, and we're on the wrong side.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at July 30, 2020 01:08 PM (ZCiJZ)

49 Rush covering this breaking news now.

Also- i realize many of you don't read Fox News anymore, but they had a tremendous article today about the Soros funded local DAs. So at least the word is getting out.

Posted by: Dicks out for Harambe at July 30, 2020 01:08 PM (xyImL)

50 Can't wait to hear Frei and Barnes' takes on this.

Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (don't forget that Epstein didn't off hisself) at July 30, 2020 01:08 PM (9hauA)

51 @44 You didn't put the flag back out in November of 2016? Really?

Posted by: Uncle Max at July 30, 2020 01:08 PM (8cUgT)

52 They framed him fair and square.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 30, 2020 01:09 PM (bIQ9R)

53
Pretty nauseating, seeing what they've done to my country lately. Like we wasted a lot of time and effort.
***

Pretty sure I know what the patriots would have done to a bureaucrat or governor that mandated they wear a mask to leave the house.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:09 PM (qlFIA)

54 Can't wait for Flynn's civil suit against these traitors. Should probably hire Sandman's lawyers...

Posted by: Greyman27 at July 30, 2020 01:10 PM (RKLPC)

55 If he uses it. If not, then they have a new AG and justice department goes into full political mode again. And even if Trump pardons Flynn, the coup investigation stops and it doesn't matter what he knows
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:05 PM (KZzsI)

***************

LOL -- thanks for admitting your first point is hair on fire bullshit.

Seriously.

Posted by: Venus at July 30, 2020 01:10 PM (iYXhj)

56

Vomit inducing.

We are taught not to hate.

How can you help it? Hating a satanic cult is how I'm looking at it these days.

They know what they're doing. They have instilled evil throughout the party. Nasty, filthy brainless puppets obeying their nasty, filthy evil masters.

Like Trump said, delay the elections. For 10 more years please.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:10 PM (t4of4)

57 >>>44 I'm finding it harder and harder to show any allegiance to this country anymore.

When Obama was re-elected, I stopped putting the flag out any longer.

...

obama succeeded in making this post-America.

This has not been America for a long time. It's actually an insult to America to call this Stasi/Nazi state "America."

Posted by: ace at July 30, 2020 01:10 PM (PbpT7)

58 When Obama was re-elected, I stopped putting the flag out any longer.

I just started putting one up. I want the "mask debaters" to know they can pound sand.

Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2020 01:11 PM (UMXod)

59 Flynn must really have some shit on the blue lipped mf'r.

Posted by: Jaimo at July 30, 2020 01:11 PM (/Kt3K)

60 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:07 PM (KZzsI)

And that's one of the reasons why we people of faith pray every day and some pray multiple times everyday.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2020 01:11 PM (oDRcK)

61 Fuuuuuck!!!!

We are all fucked. Seriously. Every unmarried white woman is against us. Most professionals and college educated are against us, or ineffective and silent.

Our children are against us. I have yet to find a Generation Z who isn't a mouth-breathing spouter of the most extreme leftism. Most Millennials are hopeless, although maybe some will be mugged by reality.

Big tech is against us. Every corporation is cucked into mouthing the party line.

Everyone in Europe, outside the 30% in each country who still believe in their respective nations, but are too small to win any national election.

Minorities are getting screwed but those that oppose the received wisdom are silenced by their angry "spokespersons"

Judges are lawyers so they're of course assholes anyway. And aside from the exceptional conservative voice--Scalia, RIP, Thomas and Alito--they're all wooed by fear of being excluded from the Washington cocktail party circuit. Nearly every elected "conservative" official has his finger in the wind, and most are fucking liars who will run ads to "Build the Damn Fence" while they stab us in the back.

We as a nation will collapse faster than anyone thinks. And there's no place to run to that's free, not in this world any more. Hong Kong will fall. Switzerland is drifting from its once proud independent non-SJW positions.

Sorry. I know to keep the faith, but I don't seem to have any more. God I am glad I will not live for 50 more years. Maybe I'll start smoking to hasten the process. At least then my dividends in Philip Morris/Altria stocks are something.

Posted by: John Milton's Ghost at July 30, 2020 01:11 PM (9crPk)

62
Also- i realize many of you don't read Fox News anymore, but they
had a tremendous article today about the Soros funded local DAs. So at
least the word is getting out.

Who cares if Soros has funded DAs? It's not like they're ever going lose their elections. We're stuck with them forever. Between the banana republic, the tracking , the masks, the shortages, the unemployment and the rioting, the best we can hope for is that we die quickly from the Gates Miracle Vaccine.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at July 30, 2020 01:12 PM (ZCiJZ)

63 Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at July 30, 2020 01:12 PM (qZdIZ)

64 59 Flynn must really have some shit on the blue lipped mf'r.

And he's got a gag order I believe... Why not pass the info to someone else to "leak" like the Dems do

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:12 PM (Zmnko)

65 Presume all the profanity here.

Fuck it, pardon Flynn right the fuck now Trump.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get offline before I say something I will actually regret.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 30, 2020 01:12 PM (GbPPJ)

66 How can you help it? Hating a satanic cult is how I'm looking at it these days.

***

One of the weirder things about Epstein's Pedo Island was the weird temple in the middle of it. And then we know a bunch of the Dem's are into stuff like "spirit cooking".


But hey they are the party of science right?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:12 PM (qlFIA)

67 The 2008 Financial Crisis was all we ever needed to witness.

The exploiters will be given incentives and the people who play by the rules are suckers.

Posted by: Anchorman at July 30, 2020 01:13 PM (+ZoLn)

68 thanks for admitting your first point is hair on fire bullshit.

You're a loon

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:13 PM (KZzsI)

69 Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get offline before I say something I will actually regret.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 30, 2020 01:12 PM (GbPPJ)

It can't be any worse than what the majority of us would like to say

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:13 PM (Zmnko)

70 Sullivan knew the appeals court had his back all along. They will vote to fuck over Flynn and then either Biden wins and an appeal to scotus is moot or Trump wins and Roberts ducks Flynn in 2021.

Posted by: Asshoes at July 30, 2020 01:13 PM (dgqkd)

71 61: your concern has been noted.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 30, 2020 01:13 PM (unn44)

72 It's been fixed since Adams, Madison and Marshall conspired to make it so in 1803.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at July 30, 2020 01:14 PM (nFRLh)

73 I can't wait to see the insults start flying at the people that keep pointing out that we are not seeing justice. Because you know: "But I keep getting told nothing is happening!"

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2020 01:14 PM (gAXii)

74 obama succeeded in making this post-America.

This has not been America for a long time. It's actually an insult to America to call this Stasi/Nazi state "America."
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2020 01:10 PM (PbpT7)


and he did it by skirting, going around and ignoring the laws, esp Holder etc

if only the GOP had a backbone to fight back

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:15 PM (t4of4)

75 I can't wait to see the insults start flying at the people that keep pointing out that we are not seeing justice.
)))

#twoweeks!

Posted by: The twoweeks guy at July 30, 2020 01:15 PM (qlFIA)

76 This is not the kind of news I wanted to hear on my Birthday

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:15 PM (Zmnko)

77 MOTHER FUCKER

I have said all along that the fix is in on this. Every step where all the knowledgeable people said Oh this is good news!

No.

The thing that Sullivan is asking to do is NOT PERMITTED. BY ANYTHING!

And yet, the courts are about to grant him - and ALL FEDERAL JUDGES - the power to prosecute people.

Don't think so? Sullivan was ordered on a 2-1 decision to drop the case. He appealed, which I am told he cannot do, but he did, and now it is going to the en banc. Which is a different configuration of Dem appointees to Rep appointees than the 3 judge panel.

It is either 7-5 or 7-4 in favor of Dems.

They are going to vote to allow Sullivan to go forward.

Hey, maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events, but we just got our asses kicked, pal!

Game over, man, game over.




Posted by: blaster at July 30, 2020 01:15 PM (ZfRYq)

78 71

Nothing 61 said that I disagree with. Other than the smoking part I guess.

Posted by: Asshoes at July 30, 2020 01:15 PM (dgqkd)

79 This has not been America for a long time. It's actually an insult to America to call this Stasi/Nazi state "America."
Posted by: ace at July 30, 2020 01:10 PM (PbpT7)

True. This why my anger is somewhat muted about the toppling of statues and monuments and the erasure of American history. This disgusting thing that rules us is unworthy of those people and that history. Let them build monuments to a cross-dressed Trayvon. That is better suited for this Banana Empire.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:15 PM (puu6v)

80 69
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get offline before I say something I will actually regret.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 30, 2020 01:12 PM (GbPPJ)



It can't be any worse than what the majority of us would like to say

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:13 PM (Zmnko)
But CJ Roberts assures us there is no such thing as democrat judges or republican judges!!

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 30, 2020 01:16 PM (N39Ws)

81 Technofog, of course, has the decision:

https://bit.ly/3gkTakQ

(whatever Ace linked to wouldn't let me in)

Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2020 01:16 PM (JioHo)

82 One of the weirder things about Epstein's Pedo Island was the weird temple in the middle of it. And then we know a bunch of the Dem's are into stuff like "spirit cooking".

And all those very weird cracks about cannibalism showing up on social media from celebrities. There was this case in Ohio where three women sold their children to pedos for drugs

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2qrz8o7

This cannot have been just a one-off thing

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:16 PM (KZzsI)

83 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 30, 2020 01:16 PM (Zz0t1)

84 OT but amusing to our tiny little brains:

https://tinyurl.com/y3qrsphz

Posted by: pep at July 30, 2020 01:16 PM (v16oJ)

85 Pardon Flynn. Enough of this crap.

F the Democrat judges. F them.

Posted by: Jesus Built My Hotrod at July 30, 2020 01:16 PM (JWPIL)

86 When Obama was re-elected, I stopped putting the flag out any longer.

Ditto. I fly the Betsy Ross flag.

Posted by: El Superbeasto at July 30, 2020 01:16 PM (X0NrC)

87 71: thanks, bro.

I'm sorry to be so defeatist. This blog is a ray of light in a pretty dark world.

Posted by: John Milton's Ghost at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (9crPk)

88 It's not her entire profession. I'm sure AtC knows quite a few reputable and possibly conservative lawyers. She has admitted she doesn't much like judges, but not everyone who becomes a lawyers becomes a judge.

It would be like me thinking all clergy are molesting kids because some did. I don't think that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2020 01:05 PM (oDRcK)

That's unwittingly a great point. It's not just the criminals involved, but the people who cover up for them. Even those who stay silent. The Catholic Church is hemorrhaging faithful worldwide for many reasons, but its vile hypocrisy about a crime that would have shut down any monastery even 200 years ago is a major contributor. In the same way, judges permit and even encourage absolute lawlessness in the name of OrangeManBad. Even a supposedly "conservative" Supreme Court has 1% of the population casting 33% of the vote- and look at that, they're often firmly against the Constitutional God-given rights guaranteed to Christians.

There are good lawyers. Even good judges. A major illustration of pure racial theory's bankruptcy is that a black man is a Constitutional stalwart, while a white Protestant is merrily betraying principles to arbitrarily "preserve legitimacy." But at this point, the system is so far gone that Donald Trump could declare himself Caesar and demand an ocean of blood wash away these traitors. Which I think is coming, and quickly too.

Posted by: trev006 at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (A6Wna)

89 The real reason they are keeping this going it to keep the gag order on Flynn in place. He is an honorable man, and will not break the law and talk. At least he has not so far.
Can Trump remove the gag order somehow without the case being thrown out of court? That's the real ticket.
At least that's my impression and intuition on what's happening.

Posted by: Mephitis at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (sxNLf)

90 So, a judge who can't request this has just succeeded in breaking the law and is being appeased.

Sounds about right.

We need to start over. It's been broken.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (Zz0t1)

91 ace, I think the Trumpentwatter reference to delaying the election deserves some fat-chewing.

Actually, some stunned-into-silence head-shaking.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (OTzUX)

92 This is my shocked face....

Can you guys see it?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (hku12)

93
if only the GOP had a backbone to fight back
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:15 PM (t4of4)

Well we all know how this will play out in the end. When the left finally wins and completely disassembles the last vestiges of the republic and proposes an emperor or benevolent dictator, those republicans will be lined up against the wall- as will all of the yutes who are currently rioting and looting.
eventually the revolution will tire of them and flush them like the turds they are.
We are living in an episode of Black Mirror.

Posted by: Dicks out for Harambe at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (xyImL)

94 The devil you say.

Posted by: Dr. McCoy at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (WX+x0)

95 Lo, do this in my memory and to avenge my death.

Posted by: Merrick Garland at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (ssz2a)

96 85 Pardon Flynn. Enough of this crap.

F the Democrat judges. F them.
Posted by: Jesus Built My Hotrod at July 30, 2020 01:16 PM (JWPIL)

Yep, end this shit once and for all.

Posted by: CN at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (ONvIw)

97 Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get offline before I say something I will actually regret.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 30, 2020 01:12 PM (GbPPJ)

It can't be any worse than what the majority of us would like to say
Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:13 PM (Zmnko)


nope

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:18 PM (t4of4)

98 if only the GOP had a backbone to fight back
***

The left/deep state broke the Reps in the 90s, when they cleared the path for Dennis Hastert - a man they could control.


You know a number of lefty journalists have admitted they knew Dennis was a pedo and just....didn't report it....? Why would they do that?

Note the last time the Reps actually fought the Dems for something outside of foreign policy was....right before Dennis the Menace became Speaker of the House...


Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:18 PM (qlFIA)

99
I'm of the opinion that the judge picks matter very little as well. This all just polishing brass on the Titanic.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2020 01:18 PM (Tm4zg)

100 *shakes head*

The swamp always wins, I guess. . .

Posted by: Joey at July 30, 2020 01:18 PM (bDqIh)

101 I hope the NSA is keeping track of all the ex parte communication. It will come in handy at these guys tribunals.

Posted by: x at July 30, 2020 01:19 PM (nFwvY)

102 Pretty sure I know what the patriots would have done to a bureaucrat or governor that mandated they wear a mask to leave the house.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:09 PM (qlFIA)

Well, they might have started wearing white hoods. That seems to have ended tyranny after the war...

Posted by: trev006 at July 30, 2020 01:19 PM (A6Wna)

103 Flynn is likely doomed. Only thing that could save him at this point is the Supreme Court, which is unreliable at best.

The DC Circuit en banc will be 7 Dems versus 3 GOPers (assuming that Katsas, who did not participate in the order to hear it en banc also doesn't participate in the case).

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 30, 2020 01:19 PM (H5knJ)

104 Voting will be a component of how we get out of this mess. And by component I mean voting is not going to get us out of this at all.

Posted by: Montesquieu's Big Idea at July 30, 2020 01:19 PM (8FfnY)

105 ace, I think the Trumpentwatter reference to delaying the election deserves some fat-chewing.

Actually, some stunned-into-silence head-shaking.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (OTzUX)


Remember it was the left that were saying the elections cannot be fair during covid.

I think this is Trump calling their bluff.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:19 PM (t4of4)

106 91
ace, I think the Trumpentwatter reference to delaying the election deserves some fat-chewing.



Actually, some stunned-into-silence head-shaking

I think he's baiting them into demanding the elections happen on time, and with the weeks-long disaster of a mail-in primary getting sillier by the minute, public opinion is getting increasingly skeptical of trusting Postal Union drones with their ballots.

Posted by: Greyman27 at July 30, 2020 01:19 PM (RKLPC)

107 Sometimes there are not enough swears

Posted by: blaster at July 30, 2020 01:20 PM (ZfRYq)

108 The only hope for the survival of America and our Constitution is a Trump win in November. I can't wait to see Trump unleashed for another 4 years against the enemies of the people - media/socialists/marxist, etc.

Release the Trump-Kraken!

Posted by: Cheri at July 30, 2020 01:20 PM (oiNtH)

109 This is another F' you to Barr... Maybe it will prod him into releasing all the shit they have

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:20 PM (Zmnko)

110 >>> Sorry, point 1makes no sense -- IF Trump loses the
election in November, he is still POTUS and STILL HAS THE POWER TO
PARDON until January 20, 2021.

Posted by: Venus at July 30, 2020 01:02 PM (iYXhj)

Nah bro. The law is whatever we say it is. From moment to moment. Once the coronation of our masters is over your silly ideas about the rule of law die.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judges at July 30, 2020 01:21 PM (l6b3d)

111 The whole farce is that any of the judges are actually persuadable. Just theater and process.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 30, 2020 01:21 PM (zqs/f)

112 When the left finally wins and completely disassembles the last vestiges of the republic and proposes an emperor or benevolent dictator, those republicans will be lined up against the wall- as will all of the yutes who are currently rioting and looting.

Posted by: Dicks out for Harambe at July 30, 2020 01:17 PM (xyImL)

Which is why the nationalists should do so first. And that's easier now that all cops know who their enemies are. The advantage goes to the first strike.

Posted by: trev006 at July 30, 2020 01:21 PM (A6Wna)

113 No pardon issued by Trump is going to stop people who make up the rules as they go.

Posted by: grognard at July 30, 2020 01:21 PM (sb+Cg)

114 >>I think Trump needs to pardon Flynn now. Of course that would send him up for impeachment, but I expect impeachment II is coming up over something anyway. This while U.S. Version of Kafka's "The Trial" needs to end NOW.

I don't think it would cause that much of a stir, not in this environment. And if Flynn starts telling what he knows that would be a much bigger story.

Obviously, the court is desperate to stop Flynn and willing to out themselves as partisans to do it. I agree, time to call their bluff.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2020 01:21 PM (ZLI7S)

115 Semi-serious question - if we cede the government to the left in January, could we guarantee that we'd ever get it back even after winning a future election? If not, why turn it over to them? After all, Obama only vacated the Office when he left - the power was not "turned over" to the incoming administration.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at July 30, 2020 01:21 PM (ssz2a)

116 >>ace, I think the Trumpentwatter reference to delaying the election deserves some fat-chewing


Trump shaking the box again.
Never dull, that guy

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2020 01:21 PM (bDqIh)

117 Remember, folks: In these dark times, we must always keep in mind that our judiciary is uncorruptable and there is no such thing as an "Obama Judge" or a "Bush Judge" or anyone else's judge.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (hYcqw)

118 Huge linles of people at the John Lewis memorial but we can't vote in person??

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (KZzsI)

119 Remember it was the left that were saying the elections cannot be fair during covid.

I think this is Trump calling their bluff.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:19 PM (t4of4)

Trade-off mail-in voting to hold the election on time? Quite shrewd.

It really doesn't matter at this point, anyhow, because even if Trump were to win (and be allowed to claim victory), the Police State still is in charge.

Again, let's start toward partition of some sort.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (puu6v)

120 >>ace, I think the Trumpentwatter reference to delaying the election deserves some fat-chewing.

>>Actually, some stunned-into-silence head-shaking.


Why? He obviously can't do it, he doesn't have the power and he knows it but he did effectively get the idea into the public discussion which is exactly what he was trying to do.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (ZLI7S)

121 Pardon Flynn. Enough of this crap.

I'd sell the Democrats more rope. Trump is doing that.

Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (WLHrn)

122 Awaiting a '#MichaelFlynnDidntKillHimself' hashtag.


I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (oVJmc)

123 115 Semi-serious question - if we cede the government to the left in January, could we guarantee that we'd ever get it back even after winning a future election? If not, why turn it over to them? After all, Obama only vacated the Office when he left - the power was not "turned over" to the incoming administration.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at July 30, 2020 01:21 PM (ssz2a)


Power already ceded.

If Trump wins re-election, the Civil War will start.

Same if Biden wins.

Posted by: blaster at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (ZfRYq)

124 Good Lord. This will evidently never end -- they will NEVER let Flynn off. This is a rape of justice, a spectacle of vile cruelty and inhumanity at the highest levels.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (H8QX8)

125 Hell is too good for these evil assholes.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 30, 2020 01:23 PM (wiXsO)

126 >>Huge linles of people at the John Lewis memorial but we can't vote in person??


can't go to church
can't go to the gym
really shouldn't be out at all

unless it is for some Lefty activism

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2020 01:23 PM (bDqIh)

127 Can we burn down that courthouse?


Trump should put an end of this fiasco ...

Posted by: ShainS at July 30, 2020 01:23 PM (odqVH)

128 Crooked judges

So...third box cannot be relied upon?

Good to know.

Prices on the fourth box sure are going up though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (l4C/z)

129 DC court decides Sullivan can do whatever he pleases, appeal to SCOTUS, SCOTUS declines to hear the case.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (WEBkv)

130 Even the compliance ambassadors camouflaged within my quarantine beard and thankfully silently observing and reporting your white nationalist activities and hate speech to the big tech guardians of our democracy can see that Trump and his lackey Barr have divided the country by grossly politicizing federal law enforcement and intelligence to protect their fellow crony and Putin suck-up Mike Flynn, and that only a unity administration under Joe Biden and his AG Xavier Bacerra or Keith Ellison can heal the grave damage done to our institutions of justice by the Trumpists.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (ukXxl)

131 This is not the kind of news I wanted to hear on my Birthday
Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:15 PM (Zmnko)


find a spark of light today
it's there

happy Birthday

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (t4of4)

132 Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to get offline before I say something I will actually regret.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 30, 2020 01:12 PM (GbPPJ)

Quite reasonable. After all, this is your job.

Posted by: trev006 at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (A6Wna)

133 find a spark of light today
it's there

happy Birthday
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (t4of4)

Thank you, I will

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (Zmnko)

134 This is BS on stilts General Flynn has been harassed for far too long may the judges who insisted on an En Banc review rot in Hades. Go Trump, drain the swamp, MAGA!

Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (tSosf)

135 if we cede the government to the left in January, could we guarantee that we'd ever get it back even after winning a future election?

A what? Elections are far too easily swayed by foreign actors. We won't be making that mistake again!

Posted by: Hillary! at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (3fR4G)

136 > Sorry, point 1makes no sense -- IF Trump loses the election in November, he is still POTUS and STILL HAS THE POWER TO PARDON until January 20, 2021.

Well, we ain't got a radio.

Seriously, though -- the executive also has the power to drop charges, but you see how well that turned out.

Posted by: perilisk at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (9p+wn)

137 113 No pardon issued by Trump is going to stop people who make up the rules as they go.
Posted by: grognard at July 30, 2020 01:21 PM (sb+Cg)

Exactly, and we need to start to think in these terms. Because X says Y no longer matters. If Flynn has information to release he needs to do it immediately.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (puu6v)

138 Huge linles of people at the John Lewis memorial but we can't vote in person??


can't go to church
can't go to the gym
really shouldn't be out at all

unless it is for some Lefty activism
Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2020 01:23 PM (bDqIh)


Think they'll slam those wanting to attend Herman Cains? Even if small.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:25 PM (t4of4)

139 How many people couldn't bury Grandma while John Lewis' fat corpse gets a public display?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 30, 2020 01:25 PM (oVJmc)

140 Charges dropped against the McCloskey's... so there's that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 30, 2020 01:25 PM (3H9h1)

141 I think the Trumpentwatter reference to delaying the election deserves some fat-chewing


That may be the stupidest thing, factually and tactically, that Trump has ever twatted.

It won't happen and it plays into their hands.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 30, 2020 01:25 PM (gd9RK)

142 90 So, a judge who can't request this has just succeeded in breaking the law and is being appeased.
Sounds about right.
We need to start over. It's been broken."

I agree, and another point in response, we need to understand how little Judge Sullivan actually matters here, he's just the flunky who's following orders. The Fix has always been in on this case, that's why I could *never* get excited about the fake win we were taunted with.

to repost from last thread:

Sullivan did nothing. The DC Circuit Court agreed with it before Sullivan even got the orders to do what he did. Which, if you remember, were given to him by Obama himself, in those remarks of his that were published on May 11, about the Flynn case. No one had ever used the word "perjury" in this case before that, because it was flat out wrong. Within a week of Obama making those remarks, Judge Sullivan began to talk about "perjury" being the reason for him doing what he was doing.

Just like the Russian Scam, this entire Flynn circus is an "Op' being conducted by the top levels of the Democrat Party, and now you are seeing how much of the DC Apparatus they control.

And yes, they directly control the DC Court of Appeals and thanks to John Roberts, the SCOTUS now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2020 01:25 PM (Kpl3J)

143 Happy Birthday, Donna.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 30, 2020 01:25 PM (WEBkv)

144 143 Happy Birthday, Donna.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

Thank you

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:26 PM (Zmnko)

145 Semi-serious question - if we cede the government to the left in January, could we guarantee that we'd ever get it back even after winning a future election? If not, why turn it over to them? After all, Obama only vacated the Office when he left - the power was not "turned over" to the incoming administration.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at July 30, 2020 01:21 PM (ssz2a)

--------

The Left remains in charge and will remain in charge until they are stopped by popular force, not words or ballots. One way or another it will come, but I'm not bullish on the prospect of it happening anytime soon.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2020 01:26 PM (Tm4zg)

146 Exactly, and we need to start to think in these terms. Because X says Y no longer matters. If Flynn has information to release he needs to do it immediately.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (puu6v)

Yup. Holding it back this long was a mistake, and a 4 year long trial is sufficient reason to claim his Constitutional rights have been violated.

Posted by: trev006 at July 30, 2020 01:26 PM (A6Wna)

147 The bad things started happening as soon as the 3 judge panel allowed argument on the point. They legitimized Sullivan's argument and it was always going to go this way once they did that.

All the tea leaves, oh its good they directed Sullivan himself to reply! It's good they are taking their time! Oh good questions asked during oral arguments!

And yet, Sullivan is doing things that he has no authority to do, and the Court of Appeals is going to give him the authority to do it.

Think the Supreme Court will reverse it?

Really?

Posted by: blaster at July 30, 2020 01:26 PM (ZfRYq)

148 This has not been a good day for people who love this country... Not a surprise, I guess. Herman Cain, GDP (-32%), En Banc Hearing...

Posted by: Baldy at July 30, 2020 01:26 PM (OLCH5)

149 Were I Trump I would call a press conference and announce the following


Hello, I called this session for two reasons

1) The outrageous persecution of General Flynn has to stop. I have issued a pardon and I am publicly asking the House to begin impeachment proceedings against Judge Sullivan.


2) I have hired General Flynn and placed him in charge of a broad investigation of Chinese infiltration of the US economy and government. He tells me he will have a preliminary report and likely indictments by the end of October.

Thank you, that is all.



Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:26 PM (qlFIA)

150 Power already ceded.

If Trump wins re-election, the Civil War will start.

Same if Biden wins.
Posted by: blaster at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (ZfRYq)

This is what actually terrifies me- the left will fight. The right will accept a Joe Biden presidency and go on with their lives, hoping that things will turn around the next cycle, go to work, pay taxes, and the ship will slowly sink as the republicans slowly bail out a pail or two of water.
Except it's all for not because the ship already struck the iceberg and is listing at 45 degrees.

Posted by: Dicks out for Harambe at July 30, 2020 01:26 PM (xyImL)

151 124 Good Lord. This will evidently never end -- they will NEVER let Flynn off. This is a rape of justice, a spectacle of vile cruelty and inhumanity at the highest levels.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (H8QX

This IS what passes for justice in the Banana Empire. We need to be dissolving any power it has over us.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:26 PM (puu6v)

152
Ok, all things Alex Jones are banned on YouTube, right?
Well, on a smart tv, just went to YouTube, and the FIRST recommendation was the David Knight show, subbed "Alex Jones Radio". The video itself has the Infowars thing in the corner. Almost 3k views in 1 hour.

WTF is going on?

Posted by: Gooshy at July 30, 2020 01:26 PM (3m7xy)

153 Happy birthday, donna!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2020 01:27 PM (bDqIh)

154 How many people couldn't bury Grandma while John Lewis' fat corpse gets a public display?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 30, 2020 01:25 PM (oVJmc)


All I want to know is, how pimped out is his ride, compared to Floyd George's?

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2020 01:27 PM (hku12)

155 Thank you, I will
Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (Zmnko)


You share a B-Day with JJ?

That's special!

Happy Birthday!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 30, 2020 01:27 PM (Zz0t1)

156 Pardon him the day after the election.
Pardon the porn star lawyer as well. He can go back on CNN and praise Trump as a wise leader who shows mercy.

Posted by: PDT at July 30, 2020 01:27 PM (QMwOT)

157 There is something about Flynn's case or his ability to act freely which the Coup investigation hinges on or requires.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor



On January 4, 2017, Flynn was in a meeting with Comey and Brennan and a couple other shitbag coup plotters, and he questioned the use of the "Steele Dossier", he knew all about the bogus FISA warrants against the Trump Campaign, and he also knew all about the rampant corruption in the NSA/CIA, etc.

The very next day was the meeting at the WH where King Shit Midas ordered them to frame Flynn, and they were off to the races.

Flynn needs to hit the conservative lecture circuit and start talking. Then of course the Court will order his arrest for contempt of court for violating the gag order.

The Executive Branch, which is the branch that has to arrest him, says "Fuck You, Court. We are not prosecuting him on the original charge, and we consider the gag order to be an unconstitutional infringement on Flynn's First Amendment Rights. Also: Fuck You."

Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2020 01:27 PM (BM2fS)

158 So would anyone like to place a bet that if Trump were to pardon Flynn that they would find a way to declare his pardon and still send Flynn to prison?

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2020 01:27 PM (gAXii)

159 Because it's Donna's Birthday, I move she gets awarded "First" no matter what.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (WEBkv)

160 The judge CAN request this, the process is being faithfully followed, its just being crookedly implemented. Sullivan has the legal right to do all this stuff, its just not meant to be used this way.

Lawyers are good at bending the system to benefit crooked clients or causes. No human system is beyond corruption or abuse.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (KZzsI)

161 >>> 140
Charges dropped against the McCloskey's... so there's that. Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 30, 2020 01:25 PM (3H9h1

Yeah! A pair of powerful reliable leftists having another good thing happen for them. huzzah!

Posted by: banana Dream at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (l6b3d)

162 Thank you all for your B-Day wishes... Wish we had better news

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (Zmnko)

163 135 if we cede the government to the left in January, could we guarantee that we'd ever get it back even after winning a future election?"

If we lose this election, there will never be another honestly contested election in our lifetimes. There will be ballot harvesting, and universal mail in ballots, and all illegal aliens will be given the vote, and the dem candidate will be guaranteed to have 500 million mail in votes from China each time, before the election is even held. So, this November is it, for us.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (Kpl3J)

164 150 Power already ceded.

If Trump wins re-election, the Civil War will start.

Same if Biden wins.
Posted by: blaster at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (ZfRYq)

This is what actually terrifies me- the left will fight. The right will accept a Joe Biden presidency and go on with their lives, hoping that things will turn around the next cycle, go to work, pay taxes, and the ship will slowly sink as the republicans slowly bail out a pail or two of water.
Except it's all for not because the ship already struck the iceberg and is listing at 45 degrees.
Posted by: Dicks out for Harambe at July 30, 2020 01:26 PM (xyImL)

While you are precisely right, this shows the absolute necessity of a Trump re-election. It won't be recognized, and it could give us the upper hand in a separation.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (puu6v)

165 I presume Flynn could spill his guts and immediately get a pardon for that if Trump wanted to.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (qlFIA)

166 I'm thinking that "draining" the swamp is not the way to go.
What AllenG said instead.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (bDqIh)

167 >>On January 4, 2017, Flynn was in a meeting with Comey and Brennan and a couple other shitbag coup plotters, and he questioned the use of the "Steele Dossier", he knew all about the bogus FISA warrants against the Trump Campaign, and he also knew all about the rampant corruption in the NSA/CIA, etc.


He knows a lot more than that. He knows about the spying that was going on way before Trump came along.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (ZLI7S)

168 Yeah! A pair of powerful reliable leftists having another good thing happen for them. huzzah

Ends up they were Trump backers

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (Zmnko)

169 I entreat you to consider my ruminations concerning the judiciary.

Posted by: Andrew Jackson at July 30, 2020 01:29 PM (hKi6n)

170 Tom Fitton @TomFitton
·
Outrageous and continuing judicial abuse of both
@GenFlynn
and
@RealDonaldTrump

. The President should grant General Flynn an immediate pardon.


I wonder what has been stopping him? I guess Trump thought it would go away as it should have, but we are all underestimating if any of the rule of law exists anymore. It doesn't for one side only.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:29 PM (t4of4)

171 26 I think Trump needs to pardon Flynn now
***

Trump needs to arrest Biden and half of the Senate for being on the payroll of China. But he won't.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:01 PM (qlFIA)

...

This is terrible for Flynn but important for the nation to see.

I think Trump is right to allow this injustice to carry its natural course for the present--to not step in, and to allow the country to see where we are all headed if there is not a change.

Even if Trump were to lose, he can pardon Flynn before he leaves office.

Until then, and may God have mercy on Flynn, this is an indispensable display of the depravity of the left.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 30, 2020 01:29 PM (2HIdp)

172 Declare his pardon invalid/illegal*

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2020 01:29 PM (gAXii)

173 I'm not even surprised.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at July 30, 2020 01:29 PM (J70i0)

174 It's not a delay. It's a railroad job. The number of Clinton appointed and Obama appointed judges exceed those appointed by Republicans...and I wouldn't put any money on the Bush appointed judges doing the right thing.

Incidentally, how often to leftist judges follow the law as opposed to the agenda? Not often. Flynn is screwed...

Posted by: Orson at July 30, 2020 01:30 PM (Dormu)

175 I wonder what has been stopping him? I guess Trump thought it would go away as it should have, but we are all underestimating if any of the rule of law exists anymore. It doesn't for one side only.

I think Flynn wanted to be cleared not pardoned

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:30 PM (Zmnko)

176 I think dogs are sexy
Posted by: The Republican Party at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (BRkq2)


They ARE a little chewy.

Posted by: Baroke Owebama at July 30, 2020 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

177 Funny thing about Alex Jones - he came to national prominence as a 9/11 troofer. The left LOVED HIM. They even cast him in the 2006 move A Scanner Darkly as himself which is hilarious.


Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:30 PM (qlFIA)

178 I miss AllenG

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 30, 2020 01:30 PM (l4C/z)

179 And D-Lamp

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 30, 2020 01:30 PM (l4C/z)

180 What's needed next is not the ammo box but a reformation and revival in our nation. If people's hearts were virtuous and good, if we turned back to morality and justice, then we wouldn't have corrupt or partisan judges, we wouldn't have poor voter choices, we wouldn't have corrupt cops or scum on the streets tearing things apart.

What needs to change is FROM WITHIN. Unless that changes, all the civil wars and rebellion and fantasies of overthrowing corrupt governments mean nothing. It will just result in a different flavor of corruption. Meet the new boss, just the same as the old boss.

The problem with America is not bad leadership, its bad voters. We don't have a sinister cabal of a few evil men manipulating things to give them power, we have voters corrupted, greedy, hedonistic, and lacking basic civic virtues PUTTING THEM INTO POWER.

Change the people's hearts, change the entire system. Don't change the people hearts and no good will come of any other change.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (KZzsI)

181 146 Exactly, and we need to start to think in these terms. Because X says Y no longer matters. If Flynn has information to release he needs to do it immediately.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:24 PM (puu6v)

Yup. Holding it back this long was a mistake, and a 4 year long trial is sufficient reason to claim his Constitutional rights have been violated.
Posted by: trev006 at July 30, 2020 01:26 PM (A6Wna)

Flynn and Powell need to go in front of a microphone now. There's absolutely no reason not to do so. Yes, she will be disbarred, but they will do it anyhow soon enough.

Gloves off.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (puu6v)

182 On the bright side, a YouTuber's donors just won a major victory in fuckin' CA.

His donors sent him money through Patreon, a company known to have hired political commissars who started canceling accounts of conservatives and other non-lefties. His account was one that was canceled.

His donors decided to demand mediation in their inability to conduct business with Owen Benjamin, as mediation is the only method that Patreon allows for redress under their Terms of Service.

Unforts, Patreon's original ToS forbade users from demanding a 'collective' mediation and required them to individually engage in mediation. They thought that would cover their asses in case a number of users got pissed off.

They thought wrong. The jist is each user can request mediation and pay a $250 fee to enter. The company has to pay up all other costs which can be $10k.

Patreon took the case to CA court to avoid individual mediation contra their own fuckin' ToS. Mark Randaza took the case for a group of the users.

@Cernovich
Update: Patreon lost.

The judge applied well-established law and denied Patreon's motion / sided against them in their lawsuit against Owen Benjamin fans.

Patreon will now be forced to arbitrate 100+ claims, and pay up front fees of up to $10,000 per arbitration.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (ysmsf)

183 Another reason to voteTrump.

Posted by: runner at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (p/F+I)

184 This may have been discussed but Whitmer has issued another executive order rolling back indoor gatherings to be limited to 10 people. Bars must close if they derive 70% of their income from alcohol.

However, casinos can now open as long as they keep occupancy to ...15%. Which of course, is more than 10 people. She says she is "following the science" and is doing this because there has been a spike in cases and they have traced back to parties.

Casinos fund the Democrat coffers in Wayne County. Whitmers's buddies know this.

The legislature in Michigan is completely impotent in doing anything about Whitmer. They claim and rightfully so, that they can't pass anything to curtail Whitmer as she will veto it and they do not have a veto proof majority since the Dems will vote in lockstep like the good little brownshirts they are.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (DN4+z)

185 Have any of the environmentalist groups begun

whining about how the used-mask-litter proliferation is increasing and

endangering wildlife?



Posted by: Zod at July 30, 2020 01:19 PM (QgtlX)


Quick!
Somebody Photoshop a discarded mask in the blow hole of a dolphin or
wrapped around the flipper of a sea turtle. This shit would stop
immediately. That is fricking brilliant Zod!!!!


No one nooded.


Posted by: Archer at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (gmo/4)

186 how did I miss that they made a movie of A Scanner Darkly?!?!

damn

anyway when Flynn pled guilty he sealed his fate. I cursed him out that day. I feel bad about doing so, but Harsh Previous Me was correct.

oh well

Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (j9HX3)

187
Posted by: TexasDan at July 30, 2020 01:29 PM (2HIdp)

--------

The American people aren't really the audience here.

None of them even know who Flynn is. None of them care to find out. If they did care, it would all be too involved at this point, and their eyes would glaze over.

We, the few informed dissenters, and any high-profile figure who wants to dissent, are the audience. This is to show their power to a segment of society they wish to intimidate.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (Tm4zg)

188 Another reason we need to break up dc and disperse the departments to the least desirable places around the country.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (LWu6U)

189 Happy Birthday Donna &&&&&&&&

And, JJ of course.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM (d9Irc)

190 D-Lamp was a cowardly worthless pussy. He want you to go out and beat up reporters. He wasn't going to be the one doing it.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM (gAXii)

191 Happy Birthday Donna! Out of mercy I won't play "Oh Donna" to torment you

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM (KZzsI)

192
Change the people's hearts, change the entire system. Don't change the people hearts and no good will come of any other change.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (KZzsI)

Excellent post, Chris, and absolutely spot on.

Posted by: Dicks out for Harambe at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM (xyImL)

193 Flynn needs to hit the conservative lecture circuit and start talking. Then of course the Court will order his arrest for contempt of court for violating the gag order.

The Executive Branch, which is the branch that has to arrest him, says "Fuck You, Court. We are not prosecuting him on the original charge, and we consider the gag order to be an unconstitutional infringement on Flynn's First Amendment Rights. Also: Fuck You."

Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2020 01:27 PM (BM2fS)

I've never been able to figure out how a Gag order is Constitutional.

Its a Law, used to suppress Freedom of Speech, when the Constitution specifically says that is something the Government can't do?

Did I miss some later amendment?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM (NgKpN)

194 It amazes me that Democrats are so bad at running things when they so effectively kick the living shit out of the GOP at every single fucking turn.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM (vMrZL)

195 While you are precisely right, this shows the absolute necessity of a Trump re-election. It won't be recognized, and it could give us the upper hand in a separation.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (puu6v)

The Left is tearing itself apart in its race to try to reclaim power. Another 4 years of delay might be the straw that broke the camel's back.

If we outlast them, we might win by default.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM (ogeN1)

196 So they're all corporate, Or political clowns

Posted by: willow at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM (DXv3q)

197 The legislature in Michigan is completely impotent in doing anything about Whitmer. They claim and rightfully so, that they can't pass anything to curtail Whitmer as she will veto it and they do not have a veto proof majority since the Dems will vote in lockstep like the good little brownshirts they are.


yes. this is the same situation we have in PA.

IT SUCKS

Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM (j9HX3)

198 how did I miss that they made a movie of A Scanner Darkly?!?!

***

It is ok. Keanu Reeves doesn't have much range as an actor, but what he can do he does well.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:33 PM (qlFIA)

199 The Left is tearing itself apart in its race to try to reclaim power. Another 4 years of delay might be the straw that broke the camel's back.


they won't make it a year in to his second term. they're losing it completely, they're eating themselves in their frenzy. just steady on.

Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at July 30, 2020 01:33 PM (j9HX3)

200 Trump and Barr need to make a powerful joint statement and Flynn needs to be pardoned. When do we say "enough"?

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 30, 2020 01:33 PM (H8QX8)

201 Casinos fund the Democrat coffers in Wayne County. Whitmers's buddies know this.

The legislature in Michigan is completely impotent in doing anything about Whitmer. They claim and rightfully so, that they can't pass anything to curtail Whitmer as she will veto it and they do not have a veto proof majority since the Dems will vote in lockstep like the good little brownshirts they are.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (DN4+z)


SO?!?

Get it on record. Submit bill after bill after bill. Make them tell the public they hate them and want them miserable.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)

202 It amazes me that Democrats are so bad at running things when they so
effectively kick the living shit out of the GOP at every single fucking
turn.
***

Well, how do you think the Harlem Globetrotters would do at running the whole country? And yet every time they beat the Washington Generals on the court.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (qlFIA)

203 If Trump wanted to send a message he could just say that given the behavior in Flynn's case he has been convinced that the protesters are right and there is no justice to be found in our courts, so he is ordering the DHS to stop defending them.

Who would have thought that burning down courthouses would be the issue which would unite both the left and right?

Posted by: Thatch at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (qWceQ)

204 I think Flynn was onto the Obama admin's use of the intelligence community to go after their political enemies. He was looking at some sort of "audit" that would be or had been conducted on all the intelligence agencies.

So, if I'm remembering correctly, he knows a great deal about what the previous administration was up to, and who was in on it. Whether or not there's proof is another story. But given how badly certain people want to keep Flynn under wraps makes one wonder.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (3H9h1)

205 ace, I think the Trumpentwatter reference to delaying the election deserves some fat-chewing.



Actually, some stunned-into-silence head-shaking.


Hell after the last few shit shows I can only imagine what the voting precincts will look like in 2020.


It will be West Palm Beach on steroids in virtually every blue or purple city and county office.

I'm good at this point with delaying the election until 2030. Call it an "en banc" election and schedule the fucking thing for February 31st.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (luzVb)

206 Mark Randaza took the case for a group of the users.

Randazza is an asshole. But I appreciate his kind of assholery.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (H5knJ)

207 I don't know why people think Flynn has any sort of information that he can release once the case is dismissed of he is pardoned. I have never seen a compelling reason that he would have to keep such information hidden. Most likely, the entire effort to set up Flynn was because once he was in place as National Security Advisor he would be able expose all of the Comey, McCabe, Strzok, Brennan, etc. efforts to attack Trump. He could have exposed the fact that there was zero evidence of Russian collusion by the Trump campaign and the efforts to frame Trump and others. The Mueller attempted set up does not work with Flynn in place.

Posted by: JBS at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (Nm6kC)

208 195 It amazes me that Democrats are so bad at running things when they so effectively kick the living shit out of the GOP at every single fucking turn.


they're excellent, and single-minded, at obtaining power.

they're completely uninterested in, and terrible at, governance. of themselves or anyone else.

Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (j9HX3)

209 192 Happy Birthday Donna! Out of mercy I won't play "Oh Donna" to torment you
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM (KZzsI)

LOL... Worst part is I'm old enough to know that song

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (Zmnko)

210 The white leaders of Wall of Moms decided to step down from their roles and hand over the reins to "women of color."

The new leaders "include Teressa Raiford, executive director of Don't Shoot Portland, Demetria Hester and Danialle James."

But now Don't Shoot Portland wants people to stop supporting Wall of Moms.

Interesting that an affiliate of BLM, which is not a non-profit organization subject to regulation, would become a 501(c)(3). My guess is that BLM Global Network is angry as hell about this.

--------------------------------------------------------------
501(c)(3) organizations are highly regulated entities. Strict rules apply to both the activities and the governance of these organizations. No part of the activities or the net earnings can unfairly benefit any director, officer, or any private individual.

In addition, all assets are permanently dedicated to a charitable purpose. In the event that a 501(c)(3) organization must cease operations, all assets remaining after debts are paid must be distributed for a charitable purpose.

Further, lobbying, propaganda or other legislative activity must be kept relatively insubstantial. Intervention in political campaigns or the endorsement/anti-endorsement of candidates for public office is strictly prohibited.

Posted by: SMOD at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (3aI0K)

211 >>> Ends up they were Trump backersPosted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:28 PM (Zmnko)
All right then shame on me. I had heard they were leftists that had even given to BLM but it looks like that was all based on a different person with the same last name.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (l6b3d)

212 Patreon will now be forced to arbitrate 100+ claims, and pay up front fees of up to $10,000 per arbitration.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM


Uber and Lyft are facing similar situations, IIRC.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 30, 2020 01:35 PM (DMUuz)

213 By the way, the infection rate in Michigan is 3.25%. I thought we were supposed to stay below 10% to be considered curve flattened?

As other's have said, this no longer is about health, or flattening the curve, or hospitals , etc. This is pure I will do whatever it takes to oppose Trump, Conservatives, Republicans, and my state's residents.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 30, 2020 01:35 PM (DN4+z)

214 Trump needs to arrest Biden and half of the Senate for being on the payroll of China. But he won't.

Posted by: 18-1



He won't, because he'd also have to arrest almost all of the Republican Senators as well.

Not one sentient human being, politician or reporter (notice how I separated those into distinct groups) in DC or NYC believed a single word of the Russia Collusion Hoax. Trump is the only one in DC not owned by a foreign power and not trying to rob the treasury, including almost all Republicans, so he had to go and both parties participated in the sham.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2020 01:35 PM (BM2fS)

215 209 195 It amazes me that Democrats are so bad at running things when they so effectively kick the living shit out of the GOP at every single fucking turn."

It like being surprised that the Washington Generals could never beat the Globetrotters.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2020 01:35 PM (Kpl3J)

216 how did I miss that they made a movie of A Scanner Darkly?!?!

***

It is ok. Keanu Reeves doesn't have much range as an actor, but what he can do he does well.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:33 PM (qlFIA)


What he does have are a very particular set of skills, skills he has acquired over a long career....


Or am I thinking of someone else.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2020 01:35 PM (hku12)

217 188
Posted by: TexasDan at July 30, 2020 01:29 PM (2HIdp)

--------

The American people aren't really the audience here.

None of them even know who Flynn is. None of them care to find out. If they did care, it would all be too involved at this point, and their eyes would glaze over.

We, the few informed dissenters, and any high-profile figure who wants to dissent, are the audience. This is to show their power to a segment of society they wish to intimidate.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (Tm4zg)

...

You're undoubtedly correct.

Until the moment Trump pardons Flynn, and the pardon becomes a national news story, with too much misinformation to be able to easily overcome it.

Maybe just for expedience alone its better to allow this to proceed until after the election.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (2HIdp)

218 Jeebus.

There's no possibility, none, no mechanism, no possibility of "delaying the election". There's no bargaining chip to "trade" for anything.

What's the benefit of "getting the idea" into play? WTF? What "idea"? It's a non-starter, there'll be no discussion beyond quick dismissal.

We've had 4 years now of ridiculous Third World slander and hysterics about Trump cancelling elections, not accepting their results, becoming a "dictator", etc.

This is the first thing he's ever said or done that (unreasonably) could be portrayed as substantiating such idiocy.

Nothing will come of this, that's not the point. But even musing that "safely" voting could require delay validates the absurd notion that there is *any* public health issue in play.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (OTzUX)

219 ROL 18-1, just saw your post!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (Kpl3J)

220 Muscles Rothschild
@MusclesRoth
·
14m
No, that's not what this means. Sullivan wants to basically have a special counsel appointed to try the Flynn case after the DOJ dropped the charges. This just means that the court will now hear the merits of that, this isn't about sentencing.


is this true?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (t4of4)

221 Need some math help:
if a population is 10.52 million and there are 3,642 deaths, is that a per capita death rate of 0.0003? Does that make sense in any event or is it irrelevant?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (aW5/6)

222 For the Left, this is a Hill to Die on....for two very important reasons.

1. It keeps Flynn in limbo and disallows him to actively participate in uncovering the corruption.

2. (and more importantly) This is a message to Bill Barr. Essentially, the DC Court is saying..."Go ahead, bring your indictments of whomever (Brennan, Clapper etc.) This is what you are going to face in our court system. We'll obfuscate, bend the law, outright break the law to assure it is seen as nothing more than political retribution. And, Barr is just naive enough to run any indictments through that same court system instead of doing so outside the DC zoo.

Posted by: Orson at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (Dormu)

223 Change the people's hearts, change the entire system. Don't change the people hearts and no good will come of any other change.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (KZzsI)



Correct, but that takes generations. We don't have generations, and we don't have the culture. Endeavors in that area fail and continue to fail because they own the institutions.

There is only one way out of this.

Posted by: grognard at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (sb+Cg)

224 121 Pardon Flynn. Enough of this crap.

I'd sell the Democrats more rope. Trump is doing that.
Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2020 01:22 PM (WLHrn)

To hang us with.

Even "independent" voters I know believe that if there was anything to prosecute with Comey et al, or with Hillary, that this would have been done. Lack of action makes the administration look like lying blowhards, "carnival barkers" and "fake news". "Apparently Trump was wrong, Hillary was not indicted"

The 3D chess, Qanon, shit was always shit. Qanon is probably Brennan himself. I used to think it was Comey, but he's not as smart. Rosenstein is a possibility as that family initiated the "hurry up and close the schools" hysteria.

Posted by: CN at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (ONvIw)

225 This is terrible for Flynn but important for the nation to see.

We're in an information war, and Flynn is a soldier in that war. He's got it comparatively easy to POWs in previous wars.

The longer this particular skirmish goes on, the more people have a chance to wake up.

Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (/2aWP)

226 And that's one of the reasons why we people of faith pray every day and some pray multiple times everyday.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2020 01:11 PM (oDRcK)


I pray several rosaries a week and am always asking for God's help in saving my country. I know he listens. But I also know that the answer is sometimes No. So I keep praying.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 30, 2020 01:37 PM (7k/uO)

227 If Trump loses, Flynn's case will be the least of our concerns anyway

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:37 PM (KZzsI)

228 He could have exposed the fact that there was zero evidence of Russian collusion by the Trump campaign and the efforts to frame Trump and others. The Mueller attempted set up does not work with Flynn in place.
Posted by: JBS at July 30, 2020 01:34 PM (Nm6kC)

He has been under a court ordered gag order since he was indicted. He cannot talk to anyone other than his lawyers.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 30, 2020 01:37 PM (DN4+z)

229 how did I miss that they made a movie of A Scanner Darkly?!?!


It was rotoscoped, but I choose to believe that the animation of Winona Ryder's tits was based on real footage, which will someday be released.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 30, 2020 01:37 PM (gd9RK)

230 Trump is the only one in DC not owned by a foreign power and not trying to rob the treasury, including almost all Republicans, so he had to go and both parties participated in the sham.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2020 01:35 PM (BM2fS)

The foreign power most are beholden to isn't Russia, but China. This needs to be repeated until it sinks in. Russian collusion was a red herring. It was meant to distract from the real conspiracy.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at July 30, 2020 01:37 PM (ogeN1)

231 There's no possibility, none, no mechanism, no possibility of "delaying the election". There's no bargaining chip to "trade" for anything.

What's the benefit of "getting the idea" into play? WTF? What "idea"? It's a non-starter, there'll be no discussion beyond quick dismissal.

We've had 4 years now of ridiculous Third World slander and hysterics about Trump cancelling elections, not accepting their results, becoming a "dictator", etc.

This is the first thing he's ever said or done that (unreasonably) could be portrayed as substantiating such idiocy.

Nothing will come of this, that's not the point. But even musing that "safely" voting could require delay validates the absurd notion that there is *any* public health issue in play.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (OTzUX)


Thing 1 there is a mechanism and that is the Congress. They set the date in Federal law. They can change it.

Trump is forcing an issue.


Posted by: blaster at July 30, 2020 01:37 PM (ZfRYq)

232
How many divisions does the DC Court have?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Roland THTG at July 30, 2020 01:38 PM (88+cf)

233 We, the few informed dissenters, and any high-profile figure who wants to dissent, are the audience. This is to show their power to a segment of society they wish to intimidate.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (Tm4zg)

Exactly.

And to your earlier point about it being long off before the rest react, yes and no. Certainly the coronavirus compliance and cowardice in the face of the "Floyd" rioters show how complacent people are (as did no reaction to a coup attempt). But the Left is impulsive and getting more reckless. They probably will overplay their hand and outrage the complacent at some point.

The best we can hope now is a relatively peaceful partition or life in a dismal police state. It probably will be the latter but with some luck could be the former.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:38 PM (puu6v)

234 Charges dropped against the McCloskey's... so there's that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer




Missouri has the strongest Castle doctrine in the United States. The McCloskeys were within their rights to shoot every person who came on their property and threatened them.

It's actually against the MO Constitution to even QUESTION a MO citizen's 2A rights, and it is specifically illegal to charge them with "brandishing" when they are on their own property with a weapon.

Idiot DA is an Idiot.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2020 01:38 PM (BM2fS)

235 Semi-serious question - if we cede the government to the left in January, could we guarantee that we'd ever get it back even after winning a future election? If not, why turn it over to them? After all, Obama only vacated the Office when he left - the power was not "turned over" to the incoming administration.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at July 30, 2020 01:21 PM (ssz2a)
+++++++++++++++++
It's simpler than that. The Left already controls the real government. We're talking only about the elected government. The last hurdle.

And whether it's this year, or '24, or beyond, doesn't really matter much. It is possible that the war is already over and we lost. It's also possible that given enough time, the ship can be righted. My money is on the former, but I don't discount the latter entirely.

But more simply, just consider it as "the next major election the Dems win is the last election that matters." It was supposed to be '16, but Trump pissed in their punch bowl. It might be '20. Time will tell. But it doesn't really matter when it happens. The next one they win is the last one with any relevance. They're nearly done. They need only one more ride to finish the job.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 30, 2020 01:38 PM (hYcqw)

236 DC judges shouldn't be able to judge DC trials.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 30, 2020 01:39 PM (1ISKN)

237 The next POTUS term will probably get at least 3 on the DC Circuit, just by age. 2 Clinton Dems and a GHWB are all 75+.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 30, 2020 01:39 PM (svbBD)

238 140 Charges dropped against the McCloskey's... so there's that.
Posted by: Martini Farmer


sounds like the local dummy realized her own fat ass was hanging out there with some liability.

Posted by: x at July 30, 2020 01:39 PM (nFwvY)

239 210 192 Happy Birthday Donna! Out of mercy I won't play "Oh Donna" to torment you
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM (KZzsI)

...

The singlemost cringe-inducing moment I have experienced in my 29 years was when my aunt married my (now) uncle, and he sort of re-wrote that song with her name in it, but made it worse, and sung it to her at the wedding.

It was interminable and excruciating.

Posted by: TexasDan at July 30, 2020 01:39 PM (2HIdp)

240 Has Powell weighed in yet?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:39 PM (Zmnko)

241 Happy Birthday Donna! Out of mercy I won't play "Oh Donna" to torment you
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:32 PM


But we're good, right?

Posted by: "Who's Holding Donna Now" & "Donna the Prima Donna" at July 30, 2020 01:39 PM (DMUuz)

242 The best we can hope now is a relatively peaceful partition or life in a dismal police state. It probably will be the latter but with some luck could be the former.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:38 PM (puu6v)
-----------

I suggest we offer them the large cities and we get the suburbs, farmland and energy producing areas.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at July 30, 2020 01:39 PM (WEBkv)

243 And of course it will be the court of appeals for most political trials.

And expect many, many more political trials, if we lose in November



Regardless if we win or lose, there won't be any political trials foing thru DC appeals courts.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2020 01:39 PM (dhqL5)

244 Trump is forcing an issue.

I don't know what this means. I don't know what "issue" he is forcing, or why it's a good thing.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 30, 2020 01:39 PM (H5knJ)

245 @ProjectLincoln

Kids can go to school, but we can't vote?


This is exactly the reaction Trump was looking for with his election delay tweet, he wanted his opponents to highlight the idiocy of the need for mail in voting.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2020 01:40 PM (ZLI7S)

246 If Biden wins, then we will only have the the democrat party of the 1990's against an outright communist party. Those will be our choices.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at July 30, 2020 01:40 PM (svbBD)

247 It's the only weapon we have against the total destruction of our country by people like these window-licking "jurists".
Posted by: Marcus T at July 30, 2020 12:59 PM (VpIIl)


Not the "only".
Perhaps the last best option, but not the only.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 30, 2020 01:40 PM (z79tQ)

248 222 For the Left, this is a Hill to Die on....for two very important reasons....

Posted by: Orson at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (Dormu)

Well said.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 30, 2020 01:40 PM (H8QX8)

249 Idiot DA is an Idiot.
Soros doesn't pay for competence or intellect. He pays for malleability and a stunted 8th-grade level progressive worldview.

Posted by: Greyman27 at July 30, 2020 01:40 PM (RKLPC)

250 Democrats ignoring the law? The deuce you say!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 30, 2020 01:41 PM (yQpMk)

251 220 Muscles Rothschild
@MusclesRoth

14m
No, that's not what this means. Sullivan wants to basically have a special counsel appointed to try the Flynn case after the DOJ dropped the charges. This just means that the court will now hear the merits of that, this isn't about sentencing.

is this true?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (t4of4)


Well yeah it's not about sentencing. It's about Sullivan and his illegal decision to not drop the case and instead appoint his own hand picked hack prosecutor to go after Flynn instead.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 30, 2020 01:41 PM (gAXii)

252 246 @ProjectLincoln

Kids can go to school, but we can't vote?


This is exactly the reaction Trump was looking for with his election delay tweet, he wanted his opponents to highlight the idiocy of the need for mail in voting.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2020 01:40 PM (ZLI7S)

Yep. But they just can't resist the bait.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 30, 2020 01:41 PM (l4C/z)

253
Ugh.

I guess America is dead.

The Democrats aren't even pretending they believe in any American principles, like the Rule of Law.

It's all just a big marxist power grab to make money killing off the American Experiment for them now.

Once the judges abandon their oaths and professional ethics, we're cooked.

Just a big power struggle now.

Well done, a-holes!


I hope I'm wrong and a massive wave vote for Trump will wash away a lot of the Dim enthusiasm for tyranny and lawlessness.

Even so, to return as close to normal as possible there will need to be a reckoning for this sedition, treason, etc.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 30, 2020 01:41 PM (dWwl8)

254 They aren't liberals.

Posted by: davidt at July 30, 2020 01:41 PM (l3+k2)

255 No, that's not what this means. Sullivan wants to basically have a special counsel appointed to try the Flynn case after the DOJ dropped the charges. This just means that the court will now hear the merits of that, this isn't about sentencing.

is this true?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (t4of4)

My understanding is that Sullivan believes the DOJ dropped the case because of political pressure from the President. Which is patently untrue, given the evidence even the DOJ has provided as to how their original evidence gathering in this case was illegal and it's prosecution demonstrated to be based on false information and discarding of exculpatory evidence. Sullivan wants Flynn's plea of guilty( done because he had terrible counsel originally) to stand and he wants to sentence him because of his own political bias.

We can only hope the en banc torpedos this .

Posted by: Jen the original at July 30, 2020 01:41 PM (DN4+z)

256 But even musing that "safely" voting could require delay validates the absurd notion that there is *any* public health issue in play.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (OTzUX)


That's also what bothered me about he said. He keeps validating the Covid panic.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 30, 2020 01:41 PM (H8QX8)

257 Posted by: John Milton's Ghost at July 30, 2020 01:11 PM (9crPk)

Agree. The enemy is inside the wire. And when he is, the only solution left is to call for fire on your own position. Drastic, yes, and I'm not saying we do that, or even know how we do that, but I see no other way out of this. There will be no putting the genie back in the bottle without something cataclysmic happening that basically forces a major Reset. For the survivors.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (7k/uO)

258 As has been said, the Deep State will never let Flynn escape The Wheel of Pain.


Trump needs to pardon him now.


And demand that Barr/Durham wrap whatever the fuck they are working on now!


If there be indictments, wonderful.


If not, then we know the score and can act and plan accordingly.


Fuck this bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (ba7DA)

259 >>Yep. But they just can't resist the bait.

Yep, and Trump knows it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (ZLI7S)

260 This is terrible for Flynn but important for the nation to see.
-----------------------
We're in an information war, and Flynn is a soldier in that war. He's got it comparatively easy to POWs in previous wars.

The longer this particular skirmish goes on, the more people have a chance to wake up.
Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (/2aWP)


Exactly. People are tearing their shirts over this poor man being subjected to house arrest or whatever the heck his current status is... I assume he's not really locked up anywhere... any more than the rest of us.

He's a big boy, I think he can handle this.

So hopefully those who are in a position to fight this, including him, are using all tactics available, including pointing out how illegal this all is.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (hku12)

261 Expect some big shenanigans soon and bigger in November.

Gun up, be ready.

See folks tomorrow, I got lunch and then training.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (l4C/z)

262 No, that's not what this means. Sullivan wants to basically have a special counsel appointed to try the Flynn case after the DOJ dropped the charges. This just means that the court will now hear the merits of that, this isn't about sentencing.

is this true?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:36 PM (t4of4)


Kind of. But mostly no. There is no pony at the bottom of this pile of manure.

It is not about sentencing directly. It is about whether Sullivan can continue to prosecute the case even though DoJ has dropped it.

The en banc is going to vacate the order of the 3 judge panel which was to drop the case.

Unless the en banc provides some instruction other than just overturning the writ of mandamus, Sullivan will be able to sentence Flynn.

Posted by: blaster at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (ZfRYq)

263 So I'm betting the en banc court will give both sides until Aug 30 to file briefs.
Then another 2 weeks for each side to respond to the other sides briefs. Actual hearing scheduled for sometime in September.
Ruling in late October.
And then Roberts will rule sometime in June 2021 that Barr violated the APA or Barr's actions were pretextual, or that although Barr's action was completely legal, it was arbitrary and capricious.

Posted by: Stacy0311 at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (SqpTW)

264 A piece of good news:
Missouri AG just dropped all charges against the McCloskeys.

Posted by: attilla with suspenders at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (w7KSn)

265
Idiot DA is an Idiot.



The purpose was harassment, as a warning to others.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (oVJmc)

266 Wow.
This is insane.

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 30, 2020 01:43 PM (aO8Gd)

267 OT but amusing to our tiny little brains:

https://tinyurl.com/y3qrsphz
Posted by: pep at July 30, 2020 01:16 PM (v16oJ)
........

"This mask debate is far from over."

Posted by: wth at July 30, 2020 01:43 PM (v0R5T)

268 Has Powell weighed in yet?

Just with a "Wow!" so far. I imagine she has to get back to work.

Posted by: t-bird at July 30, 2020 01:43 PM (UMXod)

269 The fix is in. Washington DC has spoken.
The Swamp is alive and well.
You will be made to like it.

Posted by: Case at July 30, 2020 01:43 PM (frO9V)

270 >>> I suggest we offer them the large cities and we get the suburbs, farmland and energy producing areas. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at July 30, 2020 01:39 PM (WEBkv)

Da friend, that's gonna work real well for you.

Posted by: the Kulaks at July 30, 2020 01:44 PM (l6b3d)

271 Sullivan wants Flynn's plea of guilty( done because
he had terrible counsel originally) to stand and he wants to sentence
him because of his own political bias.



...........
Posted by: Jen the original at July 30, 2020 01:41 PM (DN4+z)
Flynn agreed to a plea to save his son from being prosecuted.

Posted by: Roland THTG at July 30, 2020 01:44 PM (88+cf)

272 Idiot DA is an Idiot.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2020 01:38 PM (BM2fS)

She tried, she pushed the envelope. That's what the Left does. Too bad we never do.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 30, 2020 01:44 PM (H8QX8)

273 Has Powell weighed in yet?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:39 PM (Zmnko)


only that it happened and she linked the document

Sidney Powell Flag of United States
@SidneyPowell1
#BREAKING: The DC Cir just granted rehearing en banc of the mandamus in the #Flynn case. Oral arguments are 9:30 a.m. August 11. WOW!
@realDonaldTrump

@GenFlynn

@BarbaraRedgate

@JosephJFlynn1

@GoJackFlynn

@JennaEllisEsq

@lofly727


Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (t4of4)

274 That's also what bothered me about he said. He keeps validating the Covid panic.


The President is deathly afraid of COVID-19.

That is clear. He is ALL. IN.

Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (j9HX3)

275 At this point, "draining the swamp" is a bad joke. Please don't insult my intelligence, Mr. Trump, by mentioning it again.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (H8QX8)

276 The McCloskeys were not liberals. How many threads do we have to say this on?

Also, I'm trying to follow how this works. The DOJ is declining to prosecute and wants to drop the case. If they don't go along with this, does Sullivan do their job as well?

Posted by: notsothoreau at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (JKNZq)

277 It's actually against the MO Constitution to even QUESTION a MO citizen's 2A rights, and it is specifically illegal to charge them with "brandishing" when they are on their own property with a weapon.

Idiot DA is an Idiot.


Yeah that was one of the dumbest stunts in history, but what I want is for that DA and everyone involved to face a penalty for manipulating evidence in order to create a case.

Not "oh your case was thrown out" but "you are fired and subject to lawsuits"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (KZzsI)

278 It doesn't matter what Flynn plead to, in the America I know, you are free to change your plea.


This is fucking bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (ba7DA)

279 I have the TV on with the sound off because I'm lazy and don't want to look for anything. Obama came on and I almost put the sound on to get a rage high.

I didn't, thinking I was safe, and yet it turns out that just seeing his maudlin facial expressions is just as rage inciting.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (gd9RK)

280 Can Trump remove the gag order somehow without the case being thrown out of court? That's the real ticket.
________________

Trump can't remove the gag order, but if he pardons Flynn then the gag order becomes moot and unenforceable (because the federal courts would no longer have jurisdiction as the case against Flynn would be over and no further charges based on his alleged crime could be brought against him).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (k4dH2)

281 I cracked up when I heard Trump tweeted about delaying the election. It has brought about the exact response he wanted.

We can't delay the election, aggghh! by the left. See he wants to be in power for life, Aggghhh!.

Killing mail in voting can be done in many ways. You are seeing one of them in action. It's effective, even those on Trumps side are falling for it, LOL.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 30, 2020 01:46 PM (DN4+z)

282 Remember, folks: In these dark times, we must always keep in mind that
our judiciary is uncorruptable and there is no such thing as an "Obama
Judge" or a "Bush Judge" or anyone else's judge.


You forgot your sarc tag.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at July 30, 2020 01:46 PM (ZCiJZ)

283 265 A piece of good news:
Missouri AG just dropped all charges against the McCloskeys.
Posted by: attilla with suspenders at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (w7KSn)

That DOES sound like good news.

Posted by: m at July 30, 2020 01:46 PM (ORD9/)

284 Now would be a perfect time to push education reform.

Fact: Home schooled students outperform both private and public students.

Fact: Millions of people are out of work and living on public assistance thanks to COVID

Fact: There is extreme opposition to reopening schools due to perceived health risk.

What if we had a plan that could use those 3 facts to break up the Indoctrination Industrial Complex?

I have one.

1. All public schools are privatized.

2. Vouchers for every child, equal to current spending per student.

3. Parents may choose private school or home schooling, and may keep homeschooling as long as children pass standardized tests.

4. Homeschooling parents may keep the voucher, to pay for educational materials, and for their own use beyond that.

A Middle Class family in most districts could make 30-50k per year educating their own children, which would be a more than adequate replacement for many households' second incomes.

The withdrawal of such a significant portion of the labor market to teaching would lower unemployment and put upward pressure on wages.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at July 30, 2020 01:46 PM (ogeN1)

285 >>Sullivan wants Flynn's plea of guilty( done because
he had terrible counsel originally) to stand and he wants to sentence
him because of his own political bias.

It wasn't just poor lawyering, they hid exculpatory information from Flynn and lied about it to the court.

This is as corrupt as it gets.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2020 01:46 PM (ZLI7S)

286 "They're nearly done. They need only one more ride to finish the job." Mannix

so any outrageous things keep happening, with almost zero real response, government or otherwise ... it seems the NWO people really are intent on carrying out their plan.


I keep hoping "the masses" would stand up to cancel culture, but hard to say what form that would take. The PsyOps of BigGov and ShadowGov seem to have all the bases covered, and they have BigMoney ... but the coup will be prosecuted in #2weeks. so we got that going for us.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 30, 2020 01:47 PM (Cus5s)

287 Killing mail in voting can be done in many ways. You are seeing one of them in action. It's effective, even those on Trumps side are falling for it, LOL.

I don't see how this kills mail-in voting.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 30, 2020 01:47 PM (H5knJ)

288 sounds like the local dummy realized her own fat ass was hanging out there with some liability.+++
She still should be looking at considerable liability. She tampered with evidence, at the very least. No way she shouldn't face investigation, prosecution and jail time. I know none of those things will occur.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 30, 2020 01:47 PM (LGXGf)

289 It wasn't just poor lawyering, they hid exculpatory information from Flynn and lied about it to the court.

This is as corrupt as it gets.

Yet it continues

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:47 PM (Zmnko)

290 Trump wants to show the world how important the "safety and security and integrity" of our electoral process really is to Democrats.

I understand now why we have a GOPe that doesn't fight. Because soon as someone does, we grab our stars and garters and think but what will the liberals *say*!!!!

Posted by: ... at July 30, 2020 01:47 PM (E/gBi)

291 So even though the democrats failed to manufacture adequate evidence against Flynn, he can still be sentenced because Orange Man Bad.

What's the Latin legal term for this?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 30, 2020 01:47 PM (1ISKN)

292 I don't see how this kills mail-in voting.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 30, 2020 01:47 PM (H5knJ)

I don't either. It seems like they'll only push harder for it.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 30, 2020 01:47 PM (H8QX8)

293 Didn't Sullivan have something like two years when he could have sentenced Flynn and didn't?

Posted by: notsothoreau at July 30, 2020 01:48 PM (JKNZq)

294 If Sullivan sentences Flynn, Trump can commute the sentence and Flynn can continue his appeals, right? If he is pardoned, doesn't the case end completely?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 30, 2020 01:48 PM (yQpMk)

295 By the time they get around to Comey he'll be a study subject for future palaeoxylologists.

Posted by: f'd at July 30, 2020 01:48 PM (Y67ao)

296 123 / 150 If Trump wins re-election, the Civil War will start.

My reading of the situation is the Maoist Marxist Bastards army will continue to have increasingly peaceful protests as we get closer to the election because they are passionate about making sure every vote counts, some twice and if Trump wins, magically voting will no longer matter but burn, looting, and murder is all that will count.

As for the DC Court situation. Flynn is so screwed. The hustle here is dropping a case that was predicated on a rouge FBI that ginned up a persecution of Flynn as a pretext to take down the President is exactly identical to nailing Flynn to the wall and then let him attempt to reverse that conviction and sentence via the appeals process.

In more honest times, like 1930s Soviet Union, matters like this would skip all the baloney we have to put up with today, and went right to a last smoke and bullet to the head.





Posted by: Anti Marx - Pro Lennon at July 30, 2020 01:48 PM (Fmrwt)

297 277 The McCloskeys were not liberals. How many threads do we have to say this on?

Posted by: notsothoreau at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (JKNZq)

Honestly, does it matter?

Posted by: m at July 30, 2020 01:48 PM (ORD9/)

298 @76 - Happy Birthday, Donna! Hope you and yours are safe and well, and enjoy your special day.

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 30, 2020 01:48 PM (6mvRv)

299 279 It doesn't matter what Flynn plead to, in the America I know, you are free to change your plea.


This is fucking bullshit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (ba7DA)

It is another day ending in "y" in the Banana Empire.

There is no reason to have faith in any United States institution at the point.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:48 PM (puu6v)

300 >>> The President is deathly afraid of COVID-19. That is clear. He is ALL. IN. Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (j9HX3)


The left found their rats in a head sized cage for Trump.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM (l6b3d)

301 I wonder if this day/year can get any worse. I'm almost afraid to even say that.

Posted by: spypeach at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM (Up/Jb)

302 299 @76 - Happy Birthday, Donna! Hope you and yours are safe and well, and enjoy your special day.
Posted by: Blacksheep at July 30, 2020 01:48 PM (6mvRv)

Thanks

Posted by: It's me donna at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM (Zmnko)

303 My understanding is that Sullivan believes the DOJ dropped the case because of political pressure from the President. Which is patently untrue, given the evidence even the DOJ has provided as to how their original evidence gathering in this case was illegal and it's prosecution demonstrated to be based on false information and discarding of exculpatory evidence. Sullivan wants Flynn's plea of guilty( done because he had terrible counsel originally) to stand and he wants to sentence him because of his own political bias.

We can only hope the en banc torpedos this .
Posted by: Jen the original at July 30, 2020 01:41 PM (DN4+z)

It's a logical case, but here's the problem with it - what's been happening has nothing at all to with legal logic.

Sullivan refused to drop the case because Obama, Holder, and the rest of the DNC decision makers (the same ones who orchestrated the Russia hoax) ordered him to keep it going. The DC Circuit has now overruled the 3 judge panel for the same reason. (remember all those who were saying "oh they never review a case en banc!!!)

They have all been ordered to keep this going beyond the election, that one observation explains every single thing that has happened in this case for the last year. This is no longer a legal case, it has not been for a long time. This is a political "Op" being run by the Left, and it is showcasing just how much power they have in DC.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM (Kpl3J)

304 Hey, maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events, but we just got our asses kicked, pal!

Game over, man, game over.

Posted by: blaster




Oblig.:

https://tinyurl.com/Pvt-Hudson-Pisses-Himself

Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM (BM2fS)

305 @160
No, Sullivan doesn't have the "legal right" to do this.

As I said before, in America, due process is granted by a hearing--the defendant has a right to be heard. So; who's due process rights are being protected by this en banc hearing?


It only shows the absurdity of it--the defendant is being forced to reamin in legal jeopardy because a Judge is demanding due process.

I'll repeat: Everybody's corrupt, and I'm not sure what can be done.

Posted by: artemis at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM (AwPyG)

306 >>Yet it continues

Did you really expect rich and powerful people who have spent decades building their corrupt empire to give up without a fight to the death?

No, they are going to keep fighting because they know what is at stake as much as we do. So we have to keep fighting back. Giving up is exactly what they want us to do.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM (ZLI7S)

307 You know how we know the McCloskeys aren't liberals? They're still talking about them. We even know their names.

What was that bout some Vegas shooter ol whassisname again?

Posted by: ... at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM (E/gBi)

308 And then Roberts will rule sometime in June 2021 that Barr violated the APA or Barr's actions were pretextual, or that although Barr's action was completely legal, it was arbitrary and capricious.
Posted by: Stacy0311 at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (SqpTW)

In this time of a pandemic, we must tax or do unusual rulings, or understand that everyone needs to be included.

Or something.

Roberts is brain damaged. No doubt in my mind anymore.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM (DN4+z)

309 I don't either. It seems like they'll only push harder for it.+++
True. Why didn't asshoe Fauci mention goggles way the hell back in March? Saving it up as November nears, that's why.

Posted by: Old Dude at July 30, 2020 01:50 PM (LGXGf)

310 To paraphrase Insty,

Just think of them as democratic operatives in robes and you won't be far off.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at July 30, 2020 01:50 PM (LWu6U)

311 A piece of good news:

Missouri AG just dropped all charges against the McCloskeys.

Posted by: attilla with suspenders at July 30, 2020 01:42 PM (w7KSn)



That DOES sound like good news.

Posted by: m at July 30, 2020 01:46 PM (ORD9/)

I hope they don't drop consideration of charges against Gardner. If she was trying to pull this garbage with such a high-profile case, who the $%^* knows what else she's actually gotten away with.

Posted by: clutch cargo at July 30, 2020 01:50 PM (8B6Ng)

312 297 123 / 150 If Trump wins re-election, the Civil War will start.

My reading of the situation is the Maoist Marxist Bastards army will continue to have increasingly peaceful protests as we get closer to the election because they are passionate about making sure every vote counts, some twice and if Trump wins, magically voting will no longer matter but burn, looting, and murder is all that will count.

As for the DC Court situation. Flynn is so screwed. The hustle here is dropping a case that was predicated on a rouge FBI that ginned up a persecution of Flynn as a pretext to take down the President is exactly identical to nailing Flynn to the wall and then let him attempt to reverse that conviction and sentence via the appeals process.

In more honest times, like 1930s Soviet Union, matters like this would skip all the baloney we have to put up with today, and went right to a last smoke and bullet to the head.





Posted by: Anti Marx - Pro Lennon at July 30, 2020 01:48 PM (Fmrwt)

As to your last full paragraph, give it a few years.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:50 PM (puu6v)

313


The white leaders of Wall of Moms decided to step down from their roles and hand over the reins to "women of color."

The new leaders "include Teressa Raiford, executive director of Don't Shoot Portland, Demetria Hester and Danialle James."

But now Don't Shoot Portland wants people to stop supporting Wall of Moms.

Interesting
that an affiliate of BLM, which is not a non-profit organization
subject to regulation, would become a 501(c)(3). My guess is that BLM
Global Network is angry as hell about this.

--------------------------------------------------------------
501(c)(3)
organizations are highly regulated entities. Strict rules apply to both
the activities and the governance of these organizations. No part of
the activities or the net earnings can unfairly benefit any director,
officer, or any private individual.

In addition, all assets are
permanently dedicated to a charitable purpose. In the event that a
501(c)(3) organization must cease operations, all assets remaining after
debts are paid must be distributed for a charitable purpose.

Further,
lobbying, propaganda or other legislative activity must be kept
relatively insubstantial. Intervention in political campaigns or the
endorsement/anti-endorsement of candidates for public office is strictly
prohibited.

--------------------------------------------------------------

1) you can't keep the money

2) you can't lobby to "defund the police" or anything else.

It's impossible to become a Hugo Chávez as a 501(c)(3)

Posted by: SMOD at July 30, 2020 01:50 PM (3aI0K)

314 I left off the best part of my school reform plan - it wouldn't cost us one penny more than we're already paying.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at July 30, 2020 01:50 PM (ogeN1)

315 If Biden "wins" this already rigged election, we know what the new rules are. Time to make them live by them. Don't let the left eat in a restaurant. Harass and hound them. Protest like they do. Form an anticommunist group to challenge them in the streets. Of course, the deep state will react. Overwhelm them.

Posted by: Montesquieu's Big Idea at July 30, 2020 01:51 PM (8FfnY)

316 Hmm, so hysterical co-worker again telling the company that everyone must work from home. Owner of the company just said, we are working to keep people safe and not everyone agrees with you. Then basically told him to take the discussion offline. Like I said, time to look for a new netadmin because this one has gone round the bend.

Posted by: notsothoreau at July 30, 2020 01:51 PM (JKNZq)

317 This is correct, JackStraw.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 30, 2020 01:51 PM (5ZC0v)

318 Most people don't know who Michael Flynn is. Most people don't know who AG Barr is. Most people don't know what HCQ is.

Posted by: ... at July 30, 2020 01:51 PM (E/gBi)

319 297 123 / 150 If Trump wins re-election, the Civil War will start."

I would welcome a Civil War, we have a chance of winning that. What I fear is a Biden win, and that, with no organization and no leadership, our side surrenders without firing a shot.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2020 01:51 PM (Kpl3J)

320 310 I don't either. It seems like they'll only push harder for it.+++
True. Why didn't asshoe Fauci mention goggles way the hell back in March? Saving it up as November nears, that's why.
Posted by: Old Dude at July 30, 2020 01:50 PM (LGXGf)

Odd how not having goggles didn't seem to keep earlier outbreaks from flattening (New York, for example). Fauci is a monster, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:52 PM (puu6v)

321 Win or lose, Flynn will be pardoned this year.

Posted by: Dig Dug at July 30, 2020 01:52 PM (RW5iU)

322 So Steiner ain't coming, the wuflu hysteria ain't ending, and "Flynn and Breitbart's Army" will pretend that everything is under control.

Trust Jeff Sessions.

Fuck these liars.

Posted by: CN at July 30, 2020 01:52 PM (ONvIw)

323 A nerd budget proposal by Austin, Texas, City Council calls for a controlled demolition of the police department's headquarters In a symbolic gesture toward Black Lives Matter and defund police protesters.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 30, 2020 01:52 PM (wiXsO)

324 NOOD

Jake Tapper is a dick.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at July 30, 2020 01:52 PM (Zz0t1)

325 Sullivan refused to drop the case because Obama,
Holder, and the rest of the DNC decision makers (the same ones who
orchestrated the Russia hoax) ordered him to keep it going. The DC
Circuit has now overruled the 3 judge panel for the same reason.
(remember all those who were saying "oh they never review a case en
banc!!!)



They have all been ordered to keep this going beyond the election,
that one observation explains every single thing that has happened in
this case for the last year. This is no longer a legal case, it has not
been for a long time. This is a political "Op" being run by the Left,
and it is showcasing just how much power they have in DC.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM (Kpl3J)


This is exactly what is happening, and the worst part is that everybody knows but it continues.

Posted by: davidt at July 30, 2020 01:52 PM (l3+k2)

326 501(c)(3)
organizations are highly regulated entities. Strict rules apply to both
the activities and the governance of these organizations. No part of
the activities or the net earnings can unfairly benefit any director,
officer, or any private individual.

In addition, all assets are
permanently dedicated to a charitable purpose. In the event that a
501(c)(3) organization must cease operations, all assets remaining after
debts are paid must be distributed for a charitable purpose.

Further,
lobbying, propaganda or other legislative activity must be kept
relatively insubstantial. Intervention in political campaigns or the
endorsement/anti-endorsement of candidates for public office is strictly
prohibited.

--------------------------------------------------------------

1) you can't keep the money

2) you can't lobby to "defund the police" or anything else.

It's impossible to become a Hugo Chavez as a 501(c)(3)

_________________________________

You missed one thing. The IRS enforces those laws.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 30, 2020 01:52 PM (1ISKN)

327 I have long given up trying to understand Trump's tactics, but I assume that he factors into his statements that whatever he says/tweets will force a whole lot of people into demanding the opposite.

Maybe (as Lincolnproject tweet shows) he wanted to get the people who keep insisting we delay reopening to insist we not delay the election? It was a bold (reckless?) move, whatever he's up to with that. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at July 30, 2020 01:53 PM (bDqIh)

328 Now would be a perfect time to push education reform.


Given that teachers are INSISTING nobody go to school, yeah. And I love Betsy DeVos' idea of taking federal election funds and sending it directly to parents. I mean, why fund the schools if they are all shut down?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:53 PM (KZzsI)

329 Seth Rogen has made a new comedy film about a jewish Rip Van Winkle-esque character.

So he's out on the PR trail promoting the film -- and he crams he own foot down his throat during a puffball interview, totally enraging the entire audience for his film:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8576763/ Supporters-Israel-slam-Seth-Rogen-remarks-Jewish-state.html

Supporters of Israel slam Seth Rogen for saying he was 'fed a huge amount of lies' about the state's creation

"Rogen, who is also Jewish, said he was 'fed lies' about the creation of Israel

Said he was never told there were people already living where state now exists.

'They never tell you that, "Oh, by the way, there were people there". They make it seem like it was just like sitting there, like the f***ing door's open. They forget to include the fact to every young Jewish person.'"

Of course he's totally lying, and full of bullshit. "They never tell you"? C'mon the history of the region is the most well-known history of any part of the world.

And of course the anti-Semites jump with glee at his statements:

"'Thanks @Sethrogen for criticising the colonial myths about Israel's creation. 700,000 Palestinians were ethnically cleansed by Israeli apartheid,' tweeted the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel, a group supporting the controversial 'Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions' movement. "

Prediction:

The film will totally bomb, since the audience for it is older Jewish folks, all of whom were offended by his interview.

Best PR tour ever!

Posted by: zombie at July 30, 2020 01:53 PM (HEEq1)

330 Win or lose, Trump should simply pardon Flynn the day after the election.

Powell and Flynn should slow walk everything until then.

Posted by: Blacksheep at July 30, 2020 01:53 PM (6mvRv)

331 316 If Biden "wins" this already rigged election, we know what the new rules are. Time to make them live by them. Don't let the left eat in a restaurant. Harass and hound them. Protest like they do. Form an anticommunist group to challenge them in the streets. Of course, the deep state will react. Overwhelm them.
Posted by: Montesquieu's Big Idea at July 30, 2020 01:51 PM (8FfnY)

Here's why there are no "new rules," a term that amuses and angers me. Try to do anything you listed from a non-leftist perspective, and the State will destroy and/or kill you, full stop.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:54 PM (puu6v)

332 Go Trump! Donald Trump don't trust China. China is asshoe! American voter don't trust Biden. Democrat is asshoe!

Posted by: 80's music fan at July 30, 2020 01:54 PM (glGDV)

333 Giving up is exactly what they want us to do.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM (ZLI7S)


Exactly.
And the fact that these people really are acting like feral shrieking animals in a cage means we are on to something that will expose them.

They are acting more afraid then I have ever seen the left. They are losing it because they are wetting their pants.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:54 PM (t4of4)

334 Fucking unbelievable. Q better be for real and soon. I'm losing the will to live in this world, let alone fight.

Posted by: oddnot at July 30, 2020 01:54 PM (8QgU3)

335 What's needed next is not the ammo box but a
reformation and revival in our nation. If people's hearts were virtuous
and good, if we turned back to morality and justice, then we wouldn't
have corrupt or partisan judges, we wouldn't have poor voter choices, we
wouldn't have corrupt cops or scum on the streets tearing things apart.



What needs to change is FROM WITHIN. Unless that changes, all the
civil wars and rebellion and fantasies of overthrowing corrupt
governments mean nothing. It will just result in a different flavor of
corruption. Meet the new boss, just the same as the old boss.



The problem with America is not bad leadership, its bad voters. We
don't have a sinister cabal of a few evil men manipulating things to
give them power, we have voters corrupted, greedy, hedonistic, and
lacking basic civic virtues PUTTING THEM INTO POWER.



Change the people's hearts, change the entire system. Don't change the people hearts and no good will come of any other change.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 30, 2020 01:31 PM (KZzsI)


Well said Christopher. Well said. I only fear that with all the apparatus of information/culture in the hands of the Left I don't see where that reawakening gains ground. Other than through some cataclysm that finally wakes people up.

Posted by: LGoPs at July 30, 2020 01:54 PM (7k/uO)

336 Posted by: m at July 30, 2020 01:46 PM (ORD9/)
I hope they don't drop consideration of charges against Gardner. If she was trying to pull this garbage with such a high-profile case, who the $%^* knows what else she's actually gotten away with.
Posted by: clutch cargo at July 30, 2020 01:50 PM (8B6Ng)

Well at least the MO AG is not only a republican, but was outspoken about this case as an example of the local prosecutor being a political dead brained leftist who cannot bring a case against real criminals and the ones she does bring against the innocent but politically incorrect are overturned or dismissed . Hopefully he can get something going to get rid of her.

Posted by: Jen the original at July 30, 2020 01:55 PM (DN4+z)

337 I wonder if this day/year can get any worse. I'm almost afraid to even say that.
Posted by: spypeach at July 30, 2020 01:49 PM


It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black.

Posted by: Murphy at July 30, 2020 01:55 PM (DMUuz)

338 I said it way back at the beginning, Sullivan is 100% going to issue an order sentencing Flynn to-- laughably-- time served.

He will "find" that Trump obstructed justice by coercing the DOJ to drop the case.
He will further find that Trump's tweets are a clear threat to further obstruct justice, preventing him from giving Flynn his deserved longer sentence.

He will issue that order in October

That's what this is all about, the headline "FEDERAL JUDGE FINDS TRUMP OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE!!"

Posted by: RoyalOil at July 30, 2020 01:55 PM (aO8Gd)

339 Most people don't know who Michael Flynn is.

We could hijack the BLM shitheads by claiming Michael Flynn was the guy who died in Minneapolis. I bet they wouldn't notice.

"Justice for Mike Flynn!"

"Two four six eight
Free Mike Flynn
Stop the hate!"

"Hey hey ho ho
Free Mike Flynn
Let him go!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 30, 2020 01:55 PM (wiTnL)

340 At this point I no longer consider people of the left to be my countrymen, they can fuck off and go poison and destroy a little utopia of their very own.

Posted by: Drew in MO at July 30, 2020 01:55 PM (cGlgB)

341 Also, I'm trying to follow how this works. The DOJ is declining to prosecute and wants to drop the case. If they don't go along with this, does Sullivan do their job as well?
Posted by: notsothoreau at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (JKNZq)


Yes. There are any number of outcomes, but here are the two most likely:

1. En banc overrules the writ of mandamus, and this allows Sullivan to refuse to drop the case, refuse to allow FLynn to retract his plea, and he sentences Flynn. And there will be NO DOJ input into what the sentence should be. It will be all Sullivan.

2. En banc overrules the writ and the sentencing stuff above applies AND gives Sullivan all that he asked for, which is to appoint something like a special prosecutor who would be able to investigate (and presumably prosecute) Barr and the DoJ for corrupt motive in dropping the case.

Posted by: blaster at July 30, 2020 01:55 PM (ZfRYq)

342 If Biden "wins" this already rigged election, we
know what the new rules are. Time to make them live by them. Don't let
the left eat in a restaurant. Harass and hound them. Protest like
they do. Form an anticommunist group to challenge them in the streets.
Of course, the deep state will react. Overwhelm them.

Posted by: Montesquieu's Big Idea at July 30, 2020 01:51 PM (8FfnY)

Some of us have to go to work every day.

Posted by: Roland THTG at July 30, 2020 01:55 PM (88+cf)

343 remember all those who were saying "oh they never review a case en banc!!!
***

We've spent 20-30 years with people telling us "of course they won't do that...that goes against decorum, tradition, and history!" and each time the left does it anyway.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:56 PM (qlFIA)

344 The President is deathly afraid of COVID-19.

Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at July 30, 2020 01:45 PM (j9HX3)

The man's a germophobe. Not quite Howard Hughes level, but it's a known fact.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at July 30, 2020 01:56 PM (ogeN1)

345 He knows a lot more than that. He knows about the spying that was going on way before Trump came along.

Posted by: JackStraw



Yup. Going all the way back to the first days of Cock-Curious's first term.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2020 01:56 PM (BM2fS)

346 335 Fucking unbelievable. Q better be for real and soon. I'm losing the will to live in this world, let alone fight.
Posted by: oddnot at July 30, 2020 01:54 PM (8QgU3)

Q was a larp designed to make conservatives "calm down and trust the experts". Bullshit from day one.

Posted by: CN at July 30, 2020 01:56 PM (ONvIw)

347

Post Newd.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at July 30, 2020 01:57 PM (t4of4)

348 I would welcome a Civil War, we have a chance of winning that. What I fear is a Biden win, and that, with no organization and no leadership, our side surrenders without firing a shot.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2020 01:51 PM (Kpl3J)

Until those states on the west coast ask for and receive aid and comfort from the Chicoms.
I never thought an invading force would ever receive support from my own countrymen. Today, after seeing what has happened over the last few months, i cannot be so sure.
I wish for once someone would come out and just say it-the Chinese govt is working feverishly behind the scenes to stoke the fires burning this country. And they will use any means at their disposal to conquer us if they think they have a rat's ass of a chance.

Posted by: Dicks out for Harambe at July 30, 2020 01:57 PM (xyImL)

349 The smart play for Barr, Trump, etc would be to immediately arrest a bunch of "yutes" who changed their plea. Ideally on violent crime, not minor stuff, since this would be a political move.


Force the issue.


Posted by: 18-1 at July 30, 2020 01:58 PM (qlFIA)

350 I would welcome a Civil War, we have a chance of winning that. What I fear is a Biden win, and that, with no organization and no leadership, our side surrenders without firing a shot.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 30, 2020 01:51 PM (Kpl3J)

Bill Barr sounded the Chamade by failing to prosecute

Posted by: CN at July 30, 2020 01:58 PM (ONvIw)

351 "It's actually against the MO Constitution to even QUESTION a MO citizen's 2A rights, and it is specifically illegal to charge them with "brandishing" when they are on their own property with a weapon.

Idiot DA is an Idiot."

I'm expecting that idiot to start getting high paid gigs on CNN or MSNBC once she tires of the DA's office. Book advances? Done. If God forbid Biden wins they'd probably offer her a spot as AG. The wages of idiotship can be pretty good I hear.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 30, 2020 01:59 PM (SqopC)

352 I wish for once someone would come out and just say it-the Chinese govt is working feverishly behind the scenes to stoke the fires burning this country. And they will use any means at their disposal to conquer us if they think they have a rat's ass of a chance.
Posted by: Dicks out for Harambe at July 30, 2020 01:57 PM (xyImL)

The ChiComs already have won and used a very compliant Fifth Column to do so. It's a mopping up operation now.

Partition. Partition. Partition.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at July 30, 2020 01:59 PM (puu6v)

353 So if I vote for Trump I'm voting for civil war?
We aren't already in one?
Well, so be it. Guess I'll be voting for civil war.

Posted by: Case at July 30, 2020 01:59 PM (frO9V)

354 I have long given up trying to understand Trump's tactics, but I assume that he factors into his statements that whatever he says/tweets will force a whole lot of people into demanding the opposite.

Maybe (as Lincolnproject tweet shows) he wanted to get the people who keep insisting we delay reopening to insist we not delay the election? It was a bold (reckless?) move, whatever he's up to with that. . .
Posted by: Lizzy



Trump knows exactly what he is doing and how to push people's buttons.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2020 02:00 PM (dhqL5)

355 Willowed comment reposted in the nood!

Posted by: zombie at July 30, 2020 02:00 PM (HEEq1)

356 IANAL, so if the appeals court rules that the Flynn case continue, who prosecutes? Not DOJ, they dropped it. Can't be Sullivan if he's the "impartial" judge. An amicus prosecutor wouldn't have Executive branch authority.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 30, 2020 02:01 PM (p6fEl)

357 So if I vote for Trump I'm voting for civil war?
We aren't already in one?
Well, so be it. Guess I'll be voting for civil war.
Posted by: Case



Since Portland is in a state of Insurrection with the backing of it's governor, in regards to telling the feds to piss off and leave the state, can we have the south rise again?

If not, why not? Why does Oregon get to go their own way, while keeping fed money?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 30, 2020 02:05 PM (dhqL5)

358 Greetings:

The Process is the Punishment.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 30, 2020 02:10 PM (evgyj)

359 I've never been able to figure out how a Gag order is Constitutional.

Its a Law, used to suppress Freedom of Speech, when the Constitution specifically says that is something the Government can't do?

Did I miss some later amendment?

Posted by: Romeo13



They are presumed unconstitutional on their face, and the S. Ct. has created a "three part test" in Nebraska Press Ass'n v. Stuart, 427 US 539 (1976) to analyze them to see if they are constitutional:

"[A] prior restraint properly may issue only when it is shown to be necessary to prevent the dissemination of prejudicial publicity that otherwise poses a high likelihood of preventing, directly and irreparably, the impaneling of a
jury meeting the Sixth Amendment requirement of impartiality. This requires a showing that (i) there is a clear
threat to the fairness of a trial, (ii) such a threat is posed by the actual publicity to be restrained, and (iii) no less
restrictive alternatives are available. Notwithstanding such a showing, a restraint may not issue unless it is also shown that previous publicity from unrestrained sources will not render the restraint inefficacious. . . . [A]ny restraint must comply with the standards of specificity always required in the first Amendment context."

The problem, of course, is that the press has been slandering Flynn for 4 years with information leaked to them by the prosecutors, who are also supposed to be under a gag order to not discuss the case. Any DC jury pool is already hopelessly tainted against Flynn because of the lies told about him in the MSM.

I'm sure Flynn doesn't have the $$ to fight the question of the gag order's constitutionality to the S. Ct. Under the present circumstances of the case, he should just start talking and let the Executive Branch refuse to allow the Court to have him arrested for it.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 30, 2020 02:11 PM (BM2fS)

360 1. it is true, senate rupiblicans were spineless losers for lettting obama pack the court

2. it doesn't matter...the flynn prosecution itself is done. There's no possible biden attorney general who could prosecute the case, anyway.

3. all that's happening is the judges on the circuit panel themselves are embarassing themselves

Posted by: guest myspace user at July 30, 2020 02:32 PM (rnk6i)

361 13 I think Trump needs to pardon Flynn now. Of course that would send him up for impeachment, but I expect impeachment II is coming up over something anyway. This while U.S. Version of Kafka's "The Trial" needs to end NOW.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 30, 2020 12:59 PM (oDRcK)


No need now. If the impossible happens, er, I mean, if the mail-in ballot fraud works, Trump can issue pardons until he leaves office.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at July 30, 2020 02:33 PM (sy5kK)

362 Our judicial system is corrupt and beyond redemption. I propose before any issue may be brought before a judge the issue must be resolved by trial by combat. If either party refuses, then the other party wins. Only if trial by combat does not result in the death of a party will it proceed to a judge for final solution.

My guess is commonsense will prevail and legal disputes will disappear or that the gene pool will be far improved.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at July 30, 2020 02:41 PM (Ju2mK)

363 We lost our country after Reagan, we just didn't know it. Look how the feds respond to right wing dissent (Randy Weaver, Clive Bundy) vs. Left wing dissent (Portland).

Posted by: Kate Winslet's boobs at July 30, 2020 02:52 PM (t2GrG)

364 CJ Roberts is a pedophile! That is the only thing they could be blackmailing him with. Fuck him with a roll of rusty barbed wire. Ass first then mouth.

Posted by: Pissed off Patriot at July 30, 2020 03:08 PM (JNTt1)

365 It's time for Barr and Durham to unleash HELL on the Democrats.

Posted by: Kurtz at July 30, 2020 03:20 PM (h+6I8)

366 The Democrats are BAD

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 30, 2020 03:20 PM (FLiOE)

367 The Tree of Liberty is watered with the blood sweat and tears of patriots and tyrants.


Her brilliant flame-coloured leaves flutter as flags for the Free.
When they fall, they gather lovingly at her feet.


Tho' the roots be covered with the manure of corrupt judges, academics, clergy greedheads and traitors. Piled high and deep.

Posted by: lunatic fringe-i know i'm out there. at July 30, 2020 03:25 PM (Mce6+)

368 I feel for Michael Flynn on this prolonging of his legal journey,
but the upside is that we get to see which members of the DC Circuit aren't worthy of the black robes they wear.

The best part of the Age of Trump is that people self-identify

Posted by: SMOD at July 30, 2020 03:25 PM (3aI0K)

369 Mister, we could use a man like Gan Ganowicz AGAAAAINNNNN

Posted by: George Will's Punchable Face at July 30, 2020 03:26 PM (6MoD2)

370

Panic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Barney Fife at July 30, 2020 03:38 PM (LilNs)

371 Are we limited to the choice of P:eace or War?
Ladies. Gentlemen. Pray . Then let us choose Liberty and Justice. For all.

Tho' the Heavens fall.
And Hell erupts out of the feces-encrusted gold-plated toilets of depraved swamp-villains.
God rot them Alllllllll!

Posted by: lunatic fringe-i know i'm out there. at July 30, 2020 03:45 PM (Mce6+)

372 The Michael T. Flynn Legal Defense Fund was established to help meet the tremendous costs of legal representation. Friends and supporters can aid in his defense by contributing online at: https://mikeflynndefensefund.org/contribute/

For mailed contributions, please send your check or money order, payable to MICHAEL T. LEGAL DEFENSE FUND, to the following address:

Barbara Redgate, Trustee
P.O. Box 711533
San Diego, CA 92171

Only U.S. citizens and permanent residents may contribute. Any donations that are identified as originating with foreign nationals will be declined or refunded. Some donors could be subject to gift taxes in connection with donations. Donors should consult their tax advisors for more information.

Posted by: Kathy at July 30, 2020 03:49 PM (Me4XW)

373 If the DC cir be-sluts themselves, they may lose their standing as federal court of courts. Pyrrhic all round.

Posted by: lunatic fringe-i know i'm out there. at July 30, 2020 03:52 PM (Mce6+)

374 The State of Texas used to try all its political corruption cases in ultra-liberal Travis County. Guess how that went? Effective Republicans got railroaded and effective Democrats got their wrists slapped. Travis Cty D.A. would always go after a handful of small-fish Dems to make it look even-handed but it was generally used as a tool against Republican leadership in Texas. Now any county D.A. in Texas can prosecute corruption in cooperation with the State's Atty Gen.

Guess how any trial of Brennan, Comey, Biden, Obama will go in the D.C. Circuit? As bad as it was for Flynn, that's how smooth-and-easy-like-pudding it will be for these jerks. We need to move political corruption cases out of D.C. and send them to be tried in Plano, TX; Huntsville, AL; and Shreveport, LA.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 30, 2020 04:10 PM (0V/8D)

375 My mother always said that Shakespeare had it wrong. I't's "First we kill the judges". She'd then start muttering about unelected demigods and lifetime appointments and whatnot, but I'd lose focus, I was just a kid.

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