The Occasional Fishing Thread, Best Laid Plans Edition [Bandersnatch]

Welcome Piscators and Piscatrixes, Nimrods and Nimrettes, and Rough Riders of all genders to the current installment of the occasional fishing and hunting and other wholesome outdoorsness thread, Bander’s Not Here Edition. .

I had the best gag for this post. I was going to be off the grid because I need it and just leave you rapscallions to yourselves, but much as I wanted to I couldn’t avoid a couple absolutely have to be done things, so I haven’t set off. I will leave within a couple of days and I’m going without an agenda or timeline so I’ll be offline as much as possible.

I’ll be here somewhere:

If you’re on around the Cape and want to say hi I’m the guy with the long beard, a red XTerra and likely a blue Pungo kayak atop it. Or write the mail address below and I’ll break OpSec.

One of the things that slowed me down while life was catching up was the forecast.

Wunderground is the best thing ever. The bit that I’m really paying attention to is the arrows at the bottom which show wind speed and direction. They’ve been N-NE for too long, and while you can always possibly catch fish “East is least” is not a phrase for nothing. Anyway, it looks like the prevailing SW is coming back to town.

People used to get nutty about “spot burning” on the internet, but (i) that’s old hat, (2) there are almost no secret spots, ( C ) fish that were there today and made it to the internet may be elsewhere tomorrow, and (vier) you guys are all my buddies and pals anyway. There is an arc to these things. In the early internet it was open channel, then it went to code, then it died. Now I have assholes trying to sell me their fishing secrets on the internet. So this is a nod to the old days.

I like this spot on the outgoing. The bar in front of the mouth changes every year, so this picture is not reliable. By outgoing I mean from mid-tide (three hours in) to an hour or less before low. Slack low and slack high are nobody’s friend. That’s when you move.

I like this spot on the incoming. Bait comes in the channel and spreads out on the flats, fish follow bait. You can wade the flats if you figure out how to get there.

The Barnstable Flats is a pretty good kayak spot. There are actual oyster beds where the oyster beds show in this image. It’s from a legitimate Google maps picture, but I never figured out whether it was a gag on google’s part.

This is my real Holy Grail, the outer beaches of Cape Cod. Ocean-facing, unspoiled, pure raw surf from Provincetown to the bottom of Monomoy Island. No honky tonk, no boardwalk, no private property, Wading the surf was a peak experience.

But then it got ruined.

Twenty years ago there were two smallish colonies of these stinky bastards. One was sort of hidden and the other supported a couple of seal watching businesses that ran down to see them on Monomoy. Then they figured out that we’re not allowed to eat them and they multiplied. There are at least 80,000 of these brutes lining the coast and they’re better fishermen than we are. Fishing in the surf now means competing with these.

Of course, it’s not as if the seals have nothing to fear:

I took this at dawn. There was no one on the beach and the little girl had not returned for her flip flops.

Anyway, despite all the fishy hubris I’ll probably spend half the time at the Land Ho.

So, are you going to drop off the grid this summer? Where and how? Please to be telling stories as that’s the point of this place.

From the mailbag, we have John the Lurker:

Technically this may not be a "Fishing" pic, but what the heck. I took this picture of an Osprey in Virginia Beach VA a couple weeks ago while on a business trip. I wish it was framed better but the pesky bird refused to be agreeable. They were flying around all day showing off their catch. Beautiful bird!

I’ll say. Meanwhile, Celia Hayes was moved by the critter thread from last episode.

A good few years ago, I had a family of opossum kits at large in my back yard. At one point, when I was peacefully reading on the back porch glider, one of them climbed up onto the glider, climbed up onto my lap, experimentally gummed the edges of the book I was reading, a fold of my blouse and my finger ... and then upon concluding that none of those were any good, went to gambol among the other stuff in the back yard.
My next door neighbor, upon being told this story, confessed that if one of those hairy little rat-tailed things had ever climbed onto her lap - she would be screaming still. Possums are OK, really - they are just uber-ugly, rat-tailed cats.

And with that we move on to the raison d’etre of this here HQ, the comments section. Brickbats, praise, and fish brag pics are welcome at aoshqfish at sign gmail thing

Posted by: Open Blogger at 08:30 PM

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1 Time machines

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2020 08:23 PM (6f16T)

2 Howdy.

Posted by: runner at July 04, 2020 08:24 PM (zr5Kq)

3 Eleventy!!!

Posted by: woulde at July 04, 2020 08:24 PM (2n1DL)

4 So, are you going to drop off the grid this summer? Where and how? Please to be telling stories as that's the point of this place.

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I dropped off the grid last summer. Does that count ? I need to think about this summer, travel constraints and all....

Posted by: runner at July 04, 2020 08:26 PM (zr5Kq)

5 Mot a fan of opossums.

Posted by: runner at July 04, 2020 08:26 PM (zr5Kq)

6 Tell the tail when moving into house, much still boxed in garage, caught a raccoon rummaging in them. Ever box that little bastard touch had to be burned it was so foul.
Guess possums might be alright but did a baby one in once. Anything living under my deck gets same treatment whatever rodent it is.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2020 08:28 PM (6f16T)

7 critters

Posted by: vmom 2020 waving Stars & Stripes at July 04, 2020 08:29 PM (OCRKH)

8 I'll be here somewhere.

Better you than me.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 04, 2020 08:29 PM (2JVJo)

9 Hi Mot. I can take them or leave them. I did almost shoot one point blank with a compound bow that was scratching at my door one night. But it was the burbs so I let it go. The one I had the broadhead aimed at was way bigger than those.

Posted by: Quint at July 04, 2020 08:29 PM (hHxp2)

10 Possums are fun to mess with. When they fight each other they make a high pitched spitting sound. It's rather easy to imitate...so whenever one comes on my porch to raid a bird feeder I make that sound through the screen door and they go high tailing out of there like a shot (for a possum, that's about like a Sloth on amphetamines).

Posted by: Orson at July 04, 2020 08:29 PM (E9oEV)

11 Opossums are ugly. Poor things.

Posted by: runner at July 04, 2020 08:30 PM (zr5Kq)

12 Is there a 100-comment rule on this post?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 04, 2020 08:31 PM (2JVJo)

13 I'll be here somewhere:

*lucky you

Posted by: runner at July 04, 2020 08:31 PM (zr5Kq)

14 He's going fishing, first picture he puts up of the Cape looks like a giant fishing hook. Coincidence?

Posted by: jim at July 04, 2020 08:32 PM (ynpvh)

15 Looks like a fishing pic to me, John the Lurker. Absolutely beautiful.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2020 08:32 PM (cL0lI)

16 Is there a 100-comment rule on this post?''

well....why ?

Posted by: runner at July 04, 2020 08:32 PM (zr5Kq)

17 Every time I see Cape Cod I think of Radar O'Reilly calling it the Cape of Cod. But it's a beautiful place.

Posted by: Mookie at July 04, 2020 08:32 PM (3vIkC)

18 Here's one of those pesky Osprey's with a shark:

https://tinyurl.com/ycwhlsoq
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycwhlsoq

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/
1278705237570867200?s=20

Posted by: Braenyard at July 04, 2020 08:33 PM (46KNC)

19 Oh, I just wanted to repeat my willowed movie viewing from the thread below.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 04, 2020 08:33 PM (2JVJo)

20 Is there a 100-comment rule on this post?

I don't have the nuke keys to enforce it, but I'd prefer you keep talking about Wuhan or Trump or China or whatever downstairs.

The 100 comment rule has never come up on this thread because it hasn't had to.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 04, 2020 08:34 PM (gd9RK)

21 Possums don't cause much damage. Raccoons are the nastiest, most destructive, diseased animals around here. Anything that shits on a man's woodpile shouldn't be allowed to live.

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2020 08:35 PM (+ya+t)

22 I don't have the nuke keys to enforce it, but I'd prefer you keep talking about Wuhan or Trump or China or whatever downstairs.

The 100 comment rule has never come up on this thread because it hasn't had to.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 04, 2020 08:34 PM (gd9RK)

OK. Was only going to mention my TCM viewing today.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 04, 2020 08:35 PM (2JVJo)

23 Ive never been to Cape Cod. Always wanted to take a trip to NE. Fall. Just drive and drive. Quaint fishing villages. Fresh catch of the day. Sea air...

*sigh

Posted by: runner at July 04, 2020 08:35 PM (zr5Kq)

24 Bander, when I saw that map I kinda thought maybe you weren't going to the Cape.

Posted by: bluebell at July 04, 2020 08:36 PM (/669Q)

25 Bander, when I saw that map I kinda thought maybe you weren't going to the Cape.

I cropped it to include Scituate.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 04, 2020 08:37 PM (gd9RK)

26 I suppose I would enjoy the Cape if I liked the beach.

Or people.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 04, 2020 08:38 PM (2JVJo)

27 Of course you did! And JackStraw's old haunt, Deluxbury.

Posted by: bluebell at July 04, 2020 08:38 PM (/669Q)

28 I think possums are probably the democrats of the marsupial world.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2020 08:39 PM (XhWtx)

29 I do have cool Broad Wing Hawks very close to my yard, but I can't get a good picture of them. They while mostly eat other birds I think they get some small rodents as use to have a lot of rabbits but don't see them anymore though wife has seen one.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2020 08:39 PM (6f16T)

30 So, are you going to drop off the grid this summer? Where and how? Please to be telling stories as that's the point of this place.

Planning on hiking about 40 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail in early August. We will probably take 3-4 days to do it.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 04, 2020 08:40 PM (U2p+3)

31 I think possums are probably the democrats of the marsupial world.
Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2020 08:39 PM (XhWtx)
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Not so. You will never see a rabid possum.

Posted by: bluebell at July 04, 2020 08:40 PM (/669Q)

32 I think possums are probably the democrats of the marsupial world.
Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2020 08:39 PM (XhWtx)

That would be the foreign and most foul

Armadillo

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 04, 2020 08:42 PM (cknjq)

33 Ugly, slow, and stupid is no way to go thru life, son, but possums make it work.

Posted by: t-bird at July 04, 2020 08:42 PM (n/x6m)

34 Silly question: Can a person catch cod at Cape Cod?

Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2020 08:43 PM (clsJu)

35 We were up to Leech Lake a couple weeks ago. Federal Dam is an awesome campground. Didn't do any fishing but latched onto a fish fry done by Mr Walleye that was out of this world.

Posted by: zeera Moron Author at July 04, 2020 08:45 PM (zUdXR)

36 Silly question: Can a person catch cod at Cape Cod?

Yes. In the bay and east of the Cape. Also north. Not so much in the sound or elsewhere south.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 04, 2020 08:45 PM (gd9RK)

37 Anyway, despite all the fishy hubris I'll probably spend half the time at the Land Ho.

Man, that platter looks good.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 04, 2020 08:47 PM (EgshT)

38 We have sea lions here in Oregon, they multiplied because they are federally protected, cant touch them, they have completely decimated our salmon and steelhead. I dont even buy a license any more its gotten so bad with so little opportunity. They take chunks out of our 50 year old giant white surgeon and leave the rest for the scavengers because they are so well fed they dont have to finish. Of course, in communist oregon all we have to do is remove the dams and everything will be rainbows....

Posted by: KarlHungus at July 04, 2020 08:47 PM (kw7U/)

39 I was hoping to get away to northern Maine for a couple of days to work on my book, but I have heard that the state cops are pulling over people with out of state plates, demanding they prove they have quarantined themselves.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 04, 2020 08:48 PM (2JVJo)

40 When I catch a possum in the trap I carry them a couple miles to the other side of the creek and let them go because they are too stupid to come back. But the raccoon? Well...they have to... get...'relocated'.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2020 08:48 PM (XhWtx)

41 Seems like fishing from a kayak in the ocean might be a bit more challenging than fishing a glass smooth freshwater lake in a Lund. Plus, I'd bet the Lund holds more empty beers.

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2020 08:50 PM (+ya+t)

42 How soon they forget...

Posted by: zombie's first post Fishing Threadjack at July 04, 2020 08:50 PM (5bg3W)

43 Hey-O from the looney left coast, coastside El Granada. The Salmon bite is waning, but the guys on the Jetty were out in force today fishing for rockfish and eels. I judge the storms now by how many Filipinos are out on the rocks. "Whoa, must be a bad one coming in, only three dudes out on the jetty" The beaches may be closed, but they can't stop the inventors of social distancing...fishermen.

Posted by: Gromulin at July 04, 2020 08:52 PM (oLuxF)

44 Osprey looks like it's going to bomb someone with that fish.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2020 08:52 PM (aKsyK)

45 I've been thinking a little time away in the wilderness would be very restorative. No masks, no lies, no insanity.

I keep going back and forth about buying a small travel trailer. It seems like it would be perfect for getting away while staying comfy and keeping mischievous wildlife at a reasonable distance. I was almost ready to commit, and then inspected the build quality a bit too closely. And this brand is among the better-built. I expect more from a $25K camper.

Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2020 08:52 PM (clsJu)

46 Yes. In the bay and east of the Cape. Also north. Not so much in the sound or elsewhere south.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 04, 2020 08:45 PM (gd9RK)

Thanks, Bander. I wondered if the name indicated anything about the fish around there.

Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2020 08:55 PM (clsJu)

47 Have had a helluva problem with raccoons since late Spring this year - have repurposed 3 so far. The last one is one trap savvy dude, been working on him for a solid week.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at July 04, 2020 08:56 PM (xceTB)

48 Come join the hubby fishing off Castle Island in Southie...at least for the next week. The movers come mid month and we head south for retirement.

Posted by: Armybrat at July 04, 2020 08:56 PM (4LrYW)

49 Many years ago I went on a Tuna fishing charter with some folks from work. We left from some working pier in Santa Cruz, CA and went out about 50 miles. I think we started at 0400 and didn't get to the "fishing spot" until after sunrise. Way after sunrise.

Anyway... the crew was cool, we drank beer all day and I was one of 2 who caught a tuna over 30 lbs... (mine weighed in at 32.) Several other sub-30 pounders.

Best tasting tuna ever....

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Civilly Disobedient at July 04, 2020 08:56 PM (3H9h1)

50 What's a rapscallion, a hip-hopping green onion?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 04, 2020 08:57 PM (DMUuz)

51 Was bouncing around Lake Lansing again in the kayak, and then sitting in the shade drinking beer and looking at the water. Back home to grill, and now have a fire going.

Happy Independence Day all!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Your Spirit Of '76 Masks!! at July 04, 2020 08:58 PM (0QYMt)

52 The lowly opossum does have one redeeming attribute, and it's not an insignificant one at that.

It's favorite food in the world is the cockroach.

For that alone, I'll grant an opossum pardon whenever possible, (granted, sometimes it's not), when compared to the vile, thieving and destructive raccoon.

On the fishing topic. Alas, all of Galveston's beaches are closed for the holiday, out of undue fear of the panic virus. Which includes fishing from the beaches or jetties.

There is a special place in hell set aside for the petty bureaucrats who impose such edicts, and I'll be happy to provide additional gasoline as to further their sufferings.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2020 08:58 PM (QzJWU)

53 Emmie @ 45, for the past 25 years Mrs. E and I have bought used campers. We buy new trucks but a used camper is usually a good value. The one at the deer lease is 28 feet and perfect for two humans and 1 miniature weiner dog. It can be pulled with a 1/2 ton pickup at highway speeds and has aplenty room.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2020 08:59 PM (XhWtx)

54 Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2020 08:52 PM (clsJu)

You can get some well built mini campers for 15k-20k. They are not lying when they say mini though. You can pull it with most any car.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 04, 2020 08:59 PM (2DOZq)

55 47
Have had a helluva problem with raccoons since late Spring this year -
have repurposed 3 so far. The last one is one trap savvy dude, been
working on him for a solid week.

Smoked oysters leading into the trap worked for me.

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2020 08:59 PM (+ya+t)

56 There is a codfish hanging in the Massachusetts Statehouse.

There's an old doggerel, which I thought was about Lodges, but the internet says Lowells.

Here's to dear old Boston
The home of the bean and the cod
Where the Lowells speak only to Cabots
And the Cabots speak only to God.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 04, 2020 08:59 PM (gd9RK)

57 Raccoons crap in my pool. Snake shot is too loud. Will have to go pellet. Trapped and relocated one. Still they come.

Posted by: Javems at July 04, 2020 09:01 PM (ofIwF)

58 In Texas, it's illegal to relocate raccoons, other than to the next plane of existence.

On the plus side, coon-skin caps and baculums.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 04, 2020 09:01 PM (DMUuz)

59 In my area, I think raccoons are the nastiest. Can probably carry rabies too.

Posted by: Ronster at July 04, 2020 09:01 PM (+4+p5)

60 Appreciate the tip dartist; marshmallows have never failed me before this one.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at July 04, 2020 09:02 PM (xceTB)

61 So you won second prize i see.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at July 04, 2020 09:02 PM (Wztg5)

62 Kanye says he is running for POTUS. 2020 man.

Posted by: Jmel at July 04, 2020 09:02 PM (bVhJi)

63 Possums are dumb and harmless. They eat everything and anything especially bugs. They don't live very long either.

Raccoons are wily and smart, but also can be friendly. Used to have an old momma coon come by in the a.m and I would put some food out for her. She was blind and would walk up and roll over and touch me with her paw before eating her breakfast.

Had a raccoon shit on my roof one time too. Looked like a homeless man had done his business up there. Huge.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2020 09:03 PM (Z+IKu)

64 There's an old doggerel, which I thought was about Lodges, but the internet says Lowells.

Here's to dear old Boston
The home of the bean and the cod
Where the Lowells speak only to Cabots
And the Cabots speak only to God.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 04, 2020 08:59 PM (gd9RK)

The Lodges and the Cabots are related, if that helps.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 04, 2020 09:03 PM (2JVJo)

65 Heart Of Darkness @ 47- We use the Pied Piper trap, it's tough and quick to close, more heavy-duty than the Have a Hearts which can be destroyed by a big raccoon.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2020 09:03 PM (XhWtx)

66 Hold on, I gotta Mashpee...

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 04, 2020 09:04 PM (L6ZYH)

67 I'll be here somewhere
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For the BIG fish, you have to sail out of Nantucket.

Posted by: Capt. Ahab at July 04, 2020 09:05 PM (bk3Sg)

68 John Fogerty is singing in a Trump endorsed event?

Gray ponytails spontaneously combust.

Posted by: Miklosian History in the Making at July 04, 2020 09:05 PM (QzkSJ)

69 I will look into that as well Eromero, thanks

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at July 04, 2020 09:05 PM (xceTB)

70 You know that pet door you have for your dog or cat...

Posted by: The Raccoon at July 04, 2020 09:06 PM (l3+k2)

71 60
Appreciate the tip dartist; marshmallows have never failed me before this one.

If you're up at night a lot, a cheap pellet gun with a mounted flashlight and red dot sight works great too. Nice and quiet.

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2020 09:06 PM (+ya+t)

72 57 Raccoons crap in my pool. Snake shot is too loud. Will have to go pellet. Trapped and relocated one. Still they come.
Posted by: Javems at July 04, 2020 09:01 PM (ofIwF)

Flashlight and .22 air rifle. The glowing eyes make a nice aiming point. Don't even need the flashlight to illuminate the body.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 04, 2020 09:06 PM (8C7+r)

73 John Fogerty is singing in a Trump endorsed event?

Gray ponytails spontaneously combust.
Posted by: Miklosian History in the Making at July 04, 2020 09:05 PM (QzkSJ)

Who is the cute blond behind him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2020 09:06 PM (85Gof)

74 Love the old lady raccoon story, H. Guy.

Posted by: skywch at July 04, 2020 09:07 PM (Y/Ps0)

75 In Texas, it's illegal to relocate raccoons, other than to the next plane of existence.

Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Same here with beaver. 'Relocated' doesn't mean what it usually does.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2020 09:07 PM (bk3Sg)

76 It isn't the cod so much as the Boston scrod.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at July 04, 2020 09:08 PM (pAKEP)

77 You know that pet door you have for your dog or cat...
Posted by: The Raccoon
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Yeah, I've had that happen. Trapped the 'coon.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2020 09:08 PM (bk3Sg)

78 John Fogerty is singing in a Trump endorsed event?

Gray ponytails spontaneously combust.
Posted by: Miklosian History in the Making at July 04, 2020 09:05 PM (QzkSJ)

Who is the cute blond behind him
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2020 09:06 PM (85Gof)

Ah I just read he served in the Army during the Vietnam War

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2020 09:08 PM (85Gof)

79 Who is the cute blond behind him
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Tiffany Trump

Posted by: Miklosian Leg-Pulling Inc. at July 04, 2020 09:08 PM (QzkSJ)

80 No official fireworks, but the locals are doing their darnedest to blow up the township.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Your Spirit Of '76 Masks!! at July 04, 2020 09:08 PM (0QYMt)

81 Fireworks and 1812 over DC on now

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2020 09:09 PM (85Gof)

82 Duncanthrax @ 58, there is more than 1 value for 'relocate', neh? Crockpot is only one option, there are many others.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2020 09:09 PM (XhWtx)

83 Now with the Russian Collusion.

Told ya's

Posted by: Miklosov "Bubba" Miklosevich at July 04, 2020 09:09 PM (QzkSJ)

84 Stupid fireworks starting. Wonder how many gun murders have happened under the cover of fireworks . Probably just mad I don't have any fireworks of my own . That or I'm getting old and grouchy. Yeah the second one.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 04, 2020 09:10 PM (2DOZq)

85 Now with the Russian Collusion.

Told ya's
Posted by: Miklosov "Bubba" Miklosevich at July 04, 2020 09:09 PM

But But that was before they were commie heathens...Then they are only Czar loving heathens

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2020 09:10 PM (85Gof)

86 Hi Hammer. I can give you this address as I really don't care what gets sent to it. boycottchina1 and de googlish ending. Include the phrase "Boycott china" in the subject line, otherwise it gets automatically deleted.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 04, 2020 09:11 PM (Mm4NK)

87 .22 LR subsonic ammo, fired from long-ish rifle barrel. Preferably a boltie.

Superior to the pellet rifle, and often even quieter in the bargain.

Potent suburban varmint control. Would work well too on top-knotted commie-fas.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2020 09:12 PM (QzJWU)

88 Thanks for the insight, Eromero and Can't Resist. This is a particularly bad year to buy. Demand is wayyyyy up due to Covid and supply is down due to Covid. Used are very hard to come by, as are rentals. I've got an email out to a guy in Houston, but I suspect his has already sold.

But this is the year that all my other travel plans have collapsed, so I thought maybe we could make a camper work out. I wanted to sample the lifestyle first, but rentals are hard to find and owners don't want to entrust their equipment to newbies.

And yes, there are a few campers that we can tow with our minivan. Little Guy Mini Max is first choice, NuCamp has some lightweights, or if I want to spend twice as much and wait 18 months, there's Safari Condo Alto. The very lightest Airstreams are right at or a little over the max we can tow.

Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2020 09:12 PM (clsJu)

89 Fireworks almost in my backyard.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2020 09:12 PM (85Gof)

90 Who is this singing now?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2020 09:13 PM (85Gof)

91 I need a seat up on the peak of the barn to see 'em all. You can obviously buy some really nice fireworks in PA now.

Posted by: t-bird at July 04, 2020 09:14 PM (SwCv8)

92 Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2020 09:12 PM (clsJu)

Have you looked at Camper vans?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 04, 2020 09:15 PM (2DOZq)

93 Chicago has some kind of contraptions that are supposed to detect gun shots. They turn them off on the 4th. Looking at a record weekend this year and I bet Trump had to do something to cause what will happen already, lol.

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2020 09:15 PM (+ya+t)

94 One of the nurses at the hospital showed me some pics of trout he'd caught in the local rivers. He had some real good specimens of brook, brown and rainbow he'd caught in the Davidson river near Brevard.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 04, 2020 09:15 PM (Mm4NK)

95 A'ville Robt. - Got it. Later this evening I'll send per instructions.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2020 09:16 PM (GBHAb)

96 "Chicago has some kind of contraptions that are supposed to detect gun shots"
# of people caught due to them = 0. Just another scheme to pump money to preferred people.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 04, 2020 09:17 PM (Mm4NK)

97 My old stomping grounds. From Boston to the Cape. Summers are the best. My brother is retired down there along with a bunch of relatives all over. Now look at me stuck in the middle of the midwest with no ocean to play in. Enjoy the fishing it's the best.

Posted by: morigu at July 04, 2020 09:17 PM (SjsAD)

98 RSBN has the fireworks in DC.

Some of the absolute best salt water fishing I have done on the Gulf was just before a major storm front pushes in to the shore.

Surf fishing is incredible, whiting aka "gulf kingfish" are good eating and bite like crazy on live shrimp. It's even better if it is raining.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 04, 2020 09:17 PM (5bg3W)

99 Have you looked at Camper vans?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 04, 2020 09:15 PM (2DOZq)

Not to purchase. Seems like asking for trouble, maintenance, and expense to buy something with an engine.

Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2020 09:18 PM (clsJu)

100 "A'ville Robt. - Got it. Later this evening I'll send per instructions.

Posted by: Mike Hammer"
Okee doke. Thanks.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 04, 2020 09:18 PM (Mm4NK)

101 Recently my two boys, son-in-law and myself went to Lake Erie to walleye fish. Limited out in two and a half hours. It was awesome.

Posted by: Yep at July 04, 2020 09:19 PM (lMsxO)

102 Sadly, all my spots where I go off grid are in NW Ontario. Border is still closed.

Posted by: Muad'dib at July 04, 2020 09:19 PM (MAF74)

103 # of people caught due to them = 0. Just another scheme to pump money to preferred people.

Certainly not the cicada faced mayor's fault. We need more gun control! lol. Coppers retiring in droves.

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2020 09:19 PM (+ya+t)

104 I've been doing well in the local trout creeks this year. Seems there is less and less fishing pressure each year as boomers age out and the younger generations are more interested in their phones.

Although at age 29 I'm finding those ravines harder and harder to climb out of.

Posted by: davidt at July 04, 2020 09:20 PM (l3+k2)

105 Getting noisy outside. If I was a bit further out in the country and away from people a bit more I'd run through a clip or two with my AR.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 04, 2020 09:20 PM (Mm4NK)

106 We caught a young raccoon last week and took to the deer lease in SE Cherokee county. I had to shake him out of the trap. He hit the lip of a culvert with his back toes and dived off it like Johnny Weismuller. Took off swimming up the creek and never looked back.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2020 09:20 PM (XhWtx)

107 Emmie there is a Casita factory right here in Corsicana.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2020 09:22 PM (TsX0v)

108 PBS has warblers and yodlers singing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2020 09:23 PM (cGzEU)

109 wow Washington Monument

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 04, 2020 09:23 PM (5bg3W)

110 Getting noisy outside. If I was a bit further out in the country and away from people a bit more I'd run through a clip or two with my AR.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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Well, if you do, please aim west...southwest would be best.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2020 09:24 PM (cGzEU)

111 wow Washington Monument
Posted by: deplorable unperson
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Yeah, well, that's going to have to come down.

Posted by: AntiFa/BLM at July 04, 2020 09:25 PM (cGzEU)

112 Ray Charles looks great considering he is dead

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2020 09:25 PM (85Gof)

113 101
Recently my two boys, son-in-law and myself went to Lake Erie to walleye
fish. Limited out in two and a half hours. It was awesome.

What a success story Lake Erie has been. My grandfather had a Chris Craft on it until it got so dirty it died in the early 60's? The Cayahoga river caught fire it was so bad. Haven't fished it since, but know a bunch of guys who come back every year with stories like yours. Big fish too. Erie has to be one of the top walleye lakes in the country now.

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2020 09:28 PM (+ya+t)

114 Just got home. What is the hub-bub about Gov. Northam of VA and the flag?

Posted by: IrishEi at July 04, 2020 09:29 PM (sGotD)

115 Fireworks illegal here in Pritzeristan, but the booms are getting boomy.

Almost zero diversity here in McHenry county, an hour NW of the city of Chicago. An alternative universe. Whiteness abounds.

Oh! That was a good one! Probably one of those little cannons, the ones you charge with a 35mm film can quantity of black powder, and toilet paper wadding.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 04, 2020 09:30 PM (4ZE6o)

116 Emmie, Have you looked at tow behind pop-up campers? I don't know how long you are looking at. I suppose the pop-up campers are only good for a weekend.

Posted by: Ronster at July 04, 2020 09:30 PM (+4+p5)

117 Have you looked at Camper vans?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation

Camper van Beethoven?

Posted by: Post-punk Miklos at July 04, 2020 09:30 PM (QzkSJ)

118 Son Capt. N**** the Valiant cleared the 2 week quarantine he was ordeed into after his 9 month party in the ME. Then he was ordered to take 2 weeks of R&R. He set up a fly-fishing guided float trip on the Missouri at Craig, Mt. It got flooded out and he rescheduled for the coming Monday. Mentioned it to his childhood (and still) best friend, also an AF officer, and said friend said that Minot had come off of the CCP flu lockdown. Now the two get to enjoy the float trip and a few day visit.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at July 04, 2020 09:30 PM (HuH1F)

119 Surf fishing is incredible, whiting aka "gulf kingfish" are good eating and bite like crazy on live shrimp.
Posted by: deplorable unperson

SHRIMP LIVES MATTER

Posted by: Huey P. "Miklos" Long at July 04, 2020 09:32 PM (QzkSJ)

120 Who is this singing now?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Not me.

Posted by: JT at July 04, 2020 09:33 PM (arJlL)

121 SHRIMP LIVES MATTER

Are they really alive ? The just ...exist...

Posted by: runner at July 04, 2020 09:33 PM (zr5Kq)

122 My neighborhood sounds like a free fire zone.

Fireworks all around!

This is just about the only thing I don't mind paying for from CHYna

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 04, 2020 09:35 PM (cknjq)

123 I've been fishing on the outer beach and the seals are a pain to deal with. Lots of schoolie bass around and a few slot fish 28"-35" keepers

Posted by: Capa Blanca at July 04, 2020 09:35 PM (0VjWC)

124 Been to Wasque Point on Chappaquiddick? Blues are great there.

Posted by: Willie Stark at July 04, 2020 09:35 PM (kk8TL)

125 What is the hub-bub about Gov. Northam of VA and the flag?

A group of large and angry bikers rammed an Antifa flag up Northam's ass and pulled it out of his mouth then attached the ends to a pair of Virginia pines about 10 feet up?

Just a guess, I have no idea.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 04, 2020 09:38 PM (5bg3W)

126 ..Been to Wasque Point on Chappaquiddick? Blues are great there.

Posted by: Willie Stark at July 04, 2020 09:35 PM (kk8TL)

Didn't realize there even one Blues Club on that island. That said, rig up a large treble hook, and one might even catch an Oldsmobile near the ferry landing?

/snrk

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2020 09:39 PM (QzJWU)

127 The fat chick dancing around her apartment in her underwear is not really making me want to run out and by some ice cream.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 04, 2020 09:39 PM (cknjq)

128 deplorable unperson, don't tease me like that!

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2020 09:40 PM (TsX0v)

129 Point of order: It is properly raison d'�tre.

Needs the little pointy thing on the "e" guys.

Please make a note of it.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 04, 2020 09:40 PM (lidPb)

130 There's a great seafood place between brewster and orleans called the Lobster Claw. The only place on the Cape i've been to that has deep fried lobster. Highly recommend that dish. We had a timeshare in brewster for 30 yrs, and i've never found another restaurant that deep fries lobster meat. also rated best family restaurant on the cape from 1994-2019.

Posted by: markholio at July 04, 2020 09:41 PM (EHkY1)

131 The fat chick dancing around her apartment in her underwear is not really making me want to run out and by some ice cream.
Posted by: weirdflunky

"Going to buy ice cream" would be a good excuse to leave her apartment.

Posted by: Huey P. Miklosian Advices LLP at July 04, 2020 09:41 PM (QzkSJ)

132
Just got home. What is the hub-bub about Gov. Northam of VA and the flag?
Posted by: IrishEi at July 04, 2020 09:29 PM (sGotD)

***************
https://tinyurl.com/yageaqmu

Posted by: redridinghood at July 04, 2020 09:41 PM (wiXsO)

133 Some of the discharges in my neighborhood are NOT fireworks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2020 09:41 PM (GBHAb)

134 SHRIMP LIVES MATTER

Are they really alive ? The just ...exist...

Posted by: runner at July 04, 2020 09:33 PM (zr5Kq)
they can get pretty feisty. They would turn on the lights at fishing docks in the Gulf and the shrimp would go crazy and brink in the speckled trout. A few of them jumped onto the dock and scuttled across it and fell in the water on the other side.

Posted by: Quint at July 04, 2020 09:42 PM (hHxp2)

135 America was better off when the Cuyohoga had an octane rating, frankly.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 04, 2020 09:43 PM (lidPb)

136 Just got home. What is the hub-bub about Gov. Northam of VA and the flag?
Posted by: IrishEi at July 04, 2020 09:29 PM (sGotD)

***************
https://tinyurl.com/yageaqmu
Posted by: redridinghood at July 04, 2020 09:41 PM (wiXsO)

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2020 09:44 PM (85Gof)

137 The fat chick dancing around her apartment in her underwear is not really making me want to run out and by some ice cream.
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 04, 2020 09:39 PM (cknjq)

Is that the one looks like she's just wearing a shirt?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 04, 2020 09:44 PM (2DOZq)

138 Just got home. What is the hub-bub about Gov. Northam of VA and the flag?

Posted by: IrishEi at July 04, 2020 09:29 PM (sGotD)

I have never held a Governor in more disdain. I doubt even the Demos like him. I will bet anything this guy never holds elective office again.

Posted by: Quint at July 04, 2020 09:45 PM (hHxp2)

139 Posted by: redridinghood at July 04, 2020 09:41 PM (wiXsO)
~~~~~

Thanks, red.

Unbelievable. SMH

Posted by: IrishEi at July 04, 2020 09:45 PM (sGotD)

140 "Some of the discharges in my neighborhood are NOT fireworks.

Posted by: Mike Hammer"
Same here. You can easily tell.
I'm tempted to take some of my older stock of Black powder and improvise some. I won't but FW from china.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 04, 2020 09:46 PM (Mm4NK)

141 Some of the discharges in my neighborhood are NOT fireworks.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2020 09:41 PM

TMI, dude...TMI.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 04, 2020 09:46 PM (Tdjxx)

142 hey can get pretty feisty. They would turn on the lights at fishing docks in the Gulf and the shrimp would go crazy and brink in the speckled trout. A few of them jumped onto the dock and scuttled across it and fell in the water on the other side.
Posted by: Quint at July 04, 2020 09:42 PM (hHxp2)

Shrimp would do that ? had no idea.

Posted by: runner at July 04, 2020 09:47 PM (zr5Kq)

143 America was better off when the Cuyohoga had an octane rating, frankly.
Posted by: Common Tater

BURN ON BIG RIVER!!!

MURICA!!!!

Posted by: Miklos, noting that Cleveland was once the World's second biggest Hungarian city at July 04, 2020 09:49 PM (QzkSJ)

144 There's a great seafood place between brewster and orleans called the Lobster Claw

On 6A? I can't picture it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 04, 2020 09:49 PM (gd9RK)

145 Its been a war zone here for a hour down to 82mm and 75 pak howitzers now, it was 105mm &155mm awhile ago.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2020 09:51 PM (6f16T)

146 My neighborhood sounds like a free fire zone.

Fireworks all around!

This is just about the only thing I don't mind paying for from CHYna
Posted by: weirdflunky at July 04, 2020 09:35 PM

Same here. And they're illegal in this commie state.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 04, 2020 09:51 PM (Tdjxx)

147 Posted by: runner at July 04, 2020 09:47 PM (zr5Kq)

heh, this might even be the same place I was talking about that I fished 30 years before this video lol. same thing with the shrimp, and same fish we were catching.

https://tinyurl.com/ybqt6mmc

Posted by: Quint at July 04, 2020 09:52 PM (hHxp2)

148 Cock fighting-no

Dog fights-even more no

I can see serious money in Shrimp Fights though.

Posted by: Miklos, an Entrepreneurial Sort at July 04, 2020 09:53 PM (QzkSJ)

149 Six shows that I can see right now, four others that have stopped for the night. The Right of the People to bear Explosives shall Not be infringed.

Posted by: t-bird at July 04, 2020 09:53 PM (8DRUP)

150 I was planning on burning some black powder myself tonight but to tired.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2020 09:54 PM (6f16T)

151 I can see serious money in Shrimp Fights though.
Posted by: Miklos, an Entrepreneurial Sort at July 04, 2020 09:53

My money's on the U-10s.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 04, 2020 09:54 PM (Tdjxx)

152 Its been a war zone here for a hour down to 82mm and 75 pak howitzers now, it was 105mm &155mm awhile ago.
Posted by: Skip

Time-on-target, Skip.

Time-on-target.

Kinda like breakfast.

Posted by: Miklosian Coordinates LLP at July 04, 2020 09:54 PM (QzkSJ)

153 Maybe month ago was trying to stay awake for ONT, 1 minute to go and thought I'll just shut my eyes a few seconds. Woke up half hour later.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2020 09:56 PM (6f16T)

154 John the Lurker, Celia, thanks for content. That shot of the osprey is amazing. And opossums are so interesting. I can not believe you had one in your lap Celia.

Bandersnatch, I have not done much salt water fishing, thank you for everything above, but also that one sentence about the tides. Very interesting to me. A lot to learn.

Posted by: MikeM at July 04, 2020 09:57 PM (jVBo5)

155 My money's on the U-10s.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Brands, marketing.

I'll run two opposing teams, The Crustacean Crushers and the Shellback Slaughter.

Not sure which will be the Pretty Boys and which will be the Heels.

Posted by: Miklosian Honest Sports (rights reserved) at July 04, 2020 09:58 PM (QzkSJ)

156 Ont is up, was 4th

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2020 09:58 PM (6f16T)

157 Had something really strange happen to us a couple of weeks ago, thought maybe someone on the fishing thread could explain. We were taking our daily early morning walk down to the lake when we hear loud splashing sounds. At first we wondered if it was a black bear, but then we realized that large fish were thrashing on the surface of the water on both sides of the cove. They were not surfacing or jumping for flies; they were thrashing on the surface, usually close to shore. Only happened one day. Any ideas about what that was?

Posted by: Caliban at July 04, 2020 09:58 PM (QE8X6)

158 The Bismarck started firing, fifteen miles away...

Posted by: klaftern at July 04, 2020 09:58 PM (RuIsu)

159 The Bismarck started firing, fifteen miles away...
Posted by: klaftern

"and the British kept a-runnin"

Oh sorry, different

Posted by: Miklos "Johnny" Horton at July 04, 2020 10:01 PM (QzkSJ)

160 I own a black powder firearm. I don't really care for black powder itself too much. It is "safe" to keep around at home, but there is a reason it is treated differently than smokeless cartridge powders. Supposedly static electricity cannot set a canister off, but I wouldn't want to take that bet. Supposedly shaking a can to see how much is left resulted in a bad outcome. Anecdotal at best, but. The reason sporting goods stores don't always carry it, it is not allowed on the shelf, it must be stored in a dedicated outside storage container.

I used to buy it at the Holiday gas station if I remember right. Hm.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 04, 2020 10:02 PM (lidPb)

161 We must have a Zambelli living across the lake. Spectacular aerials just now.

Fuck Pritzger.

Aerials now 360 on the horizon. Where did you all get the bombs?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at July 04, 2020 10:02 PM (H1Umo)

162 The overpopulation of those stinky bastids is why you have more great whites cruising round up there. Big bait big fish.

Posted by: BluesFish at July 04, 2020 10:03 PM (WQZ1O)

163 The overpopulation of those stinky bastids is why you have more great whites cruising round up there. Big bait big fish.

Yes, but there aren't enough sharks. We need Orcas, Canadians, and Esquimeaux.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 04, 2020 10:08 PM (gd9RK)

164 The just pulled down a Columbus statue and they didn't pull it down onto themselves this time. They are learning tools now!

Posted by: Menack at July 04, 2020 10:35 PM (buTO7)

165 Belly clams. Fsck yeah!

Posted by: Otto Zilch at July 04, 2020 10:37 PM (U2esv)

166 Got to watch an osprey catch a fish while I was golfing a few years ago. Walking up the 7th fairway, I see the shadow pass over me, and it dives into the pond and comes out with a fish. Flies back over me, and THUD! he drops the fish back by the tee where he can land and eat it.

Posted by: Otto Zilch at July 04, 2020 10:39 PM (U2esv)

167 possums..
We moved out here in the suburbs after growing up in the city.. I believe we were in our forties when we bought our first house..
So.. new development.. on land that was previously farmland..
Our first year.. my wife saw her first possum.. "There's a giant rat in our backyard!"
She wanted me to catch these critters..
Well.. after a few years of this shit she finally realized you have to just live with them..
Strong floodlights in the yard on all night keep 'em moving to someone else's yards, though..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 05, 2020 12:10 AM (CjFDo)

168 Enjoy your time in Mass. Crazy true story: Approximately 3 weeks ago, my 82yo father and myself drove a 2700 mile odyssey, through the heart of the covid BS, to Sagamore Mass from west central Fla, to pick up a 16ft skiff. What an effin awesome journey it was. We still have kin at Island Park, Mass. We dropped in on them for a few cold ones. No one could understand why we couldn't by a skiff in Fla. But that's another story. Keep your lines tight and have a ball.

Posted by: AnAmericanStory at July 05, 2020 02:24 AM (aTYeT)

169 Greetings from Yarmouth Port....

The eat more oysters google pic is of the East Dennis oyster farm. They arranged their oyster cages that way on the flats. The name of the beach is crows pasture. You can still drive you truck out onto the beach there. Stripper fishing is really good there on new moon and full moon tides, you missed one yesterday unfortunately.

Posted by: NotAFed at July 05, 2020 05:48 AM (w+t8f)

170 Good places to get in and out...
Bass river.. you can park and put your kayak in at wilbur park in yarmouth.. good schoolie fishing on the tides. Recommend you dig your own sand eels you get the best results you can also get in a few miles up at the rt 28 bridge in yarmouth.
Bass Hole / grays brach in yarmouth you can wade through the channel at low tide to chapin beach.

Posted by: NotAFed at July 05, 2020 06:18 AM (w+t8f)

171 The lions mane jelly fish has made it to the outer cape this year so watch where you are wading.

Posted by: NotAFed at July 05, 2020 06:25 AM (w+t8f)

172 About the Cape ... The Cape was done about 30 years ago when winter storms startr=ed to rework the coastline . Before the you could get down the Outer Cape by vehicle to surf cast oposite Chatham Light Even if you caught nothing the solitude and the ocean made it great . If you did catch anything , if it were a striper, OMG the bestest fish the Good Lord made . Then if Blues were your fancy , the east side of Monomoy was waiting . Run down there with any fair size outboard and fish the flats : guaranteed to get at least a couple of keepers . Now you needs to run all the way down Monomoy in open ocean to get there . I'm pretty salty , but with younguns , ain't happening.

Posted by: jaytrain at July 05, 2020 08:10 AM (QJ8NX)

173 And for hunting folks , the back side of any the islands in Pleasant Bay were flyways for migratories. So many and so dumb , could sail over in a BeetleCat , drop the sail and lie low below the gunwale and bang-o . My partner had what he called a 'Portuguese water dog' and whatever it was breed wise , it was a retriever. Back the day , back the day . So yeah the Cape . May it Rest in Peace because the Real Cape is Long Gone.

Posted by: jaytrain at July 05, 2020 08:18 AM (QJ8NX)

174 And lastly , sailing on the Cape . The currents now being about the strength of a mill race , well that's one thing . But 'seamanship' is no more or more precisely , there are no "Rules of the Road ' : one assumes everything afloat and under way imagines itself a roman galley and it's all "Ramming Speed!!!" . So one luffs up and stays out of their way ... all the time , stay out of their way and pray. Bahsten mutts, and add ETOH , every Sunday on the water is Evacuation Day in Southie , with SeaRays for fists . The Cape is done. "Sorry to ruin your Black Panther Party" or some such, but the cape is done . BTW wanna buy a house : Ocean view in the Cape's most exclusive little town : Coming on the market soon

Posted by: jaytrain at July 05, 2020 08:28 AM (QJ8NX)

175 Btw folks, yes I do read this thread the next morning.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 05, 2020 10:43 AM (gd9RK)

176 157, sounds like carp breeding in the shallows, great for bowfishing

Posted by: KarlHungus at July 05, 2020 12:24 PM (kw7U/)

177

Posted by: KathyP at July 05, 2020 01:31 PM (pUzMm)

178 When my bro coached football at Harvard, I met them one summer for their vacation on cape cod beach. They proceeded to drive down to Jersey shore the next few years for warmer water, convenient for me living in NYC.

I now live in San Diego so.....

Posted by: Jerry Mills at July 05, 2020 06:22 PM (VCg6f)

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