Saturday Evening Movie Thread 06-27-2020 [TheJamesMadison]

Child Actors

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One of the long held maxims of Hollywood (originated by WC Fields) is that people should never work with animals or children in the movies, and based on what I've read about productions with child actors, it makes a lot of sense. For all the problems that actors have (emotional immaturity, big egos, and difficult personalities), most are actually professionals that are there for a job. Children have the added problem of being less controllable so that even if you get them into the right space, you still can't sit back and let them act.

In general, there seem to be three major techniques to dealing with child actors. The first is mosaic, where the director grabs small moments with the camera and then stitches them together to create something that looks like a performance when looked at from a distance. The second is the run them down method, working them constantly until they actually give the line reading the director wants. The third is capture, where you don't hire a child to act but to be themselves. They all have their advantages and disadvantages, and I have examples of all three.

Beasts of the Southern Wild

This 2012 movie is about a young girl living in squalid poverty outside of New Orleans and the devastating effects a flood has on her life. It was praised roundly for the central performance by the five year old Quvenzhane Wallis. To editorialize a small bit, I was not at all impressed, and it's all because I could see the very obvious seems in the performance.

In all of her acting moments, there's rarely a shot that last for more than a couple of seconds.



That's one of her big moments, and it's chopped to nothing. There are other moments that I can't find clips of online where her entire performance is made from moments that obviously don't match. Her emotions chop from one extreme to the next with a quick cut in between. I never understood the praise the movie received, especially for young Wallis' performance. It wasn't just that her performance was made of small moments, but that the moments cut together didn't make a whole. It felt very disjointed.

It was like a mosaic where the picture was supposed to be one thing, but it only vaguely looked like that thing. I don't think that this is a particularly good way of making a performance.

Paper Moon

The 1973 film Paper Moon by Peter Bogdonavich is about a con artist who takes a young girl under his wing during the Depression. It was met with high praise upon its release, especially for the performance of Tatum O'Neil who played Addie, the young girl, opposite her own father Ryan O'Neil who played Moses, the con artist.



"Tatum O'Neal creates a character out of thin air, makes us watch her every moment and literally makes the movie work (in the sense that this key role had to be well played)."
-Roger Ebert

"Tatum O'Neal makes a sensational screen debut."
-Variety

Critics were over themselves with praise for the young Tatum, only 8 years old when she tried out for the part, and the Academy followed suit by awarding her the Best Supporting Actress Oscar that year, making her the youngest winner of a competitive Oscar ever.

Here's how Bogdonavich talked about working with her: "one of the most miserable experiences of my life."

He made that performance by working with little Tatum repeatedly, by having her do take after take (sometimes as often as 50) just to get her to say the lines right. It takes a lot of work on the part of a director and the entire crew to get that kind of a performance from an actor who's not naturally inclined to do it. So, yes, in many ways it is a manufactured performance, as some contemporary critics alleged, but it's no more manufactured than anything else in a movie. It feels far less choppy than what we saw from Beasts of the Southern Wild.

For all the work that Bodgonavich had to put into Tatum's performance, it ended up paying off. That's just not the sort of work that many directors want to put in. Just ask George Lucas about Jake Lloyd.

Kes

Kes is my favorite of the three films in this thread. It's an independent British film from the late 60s about a young boy, Billy Casper, who lives in the small Yorkshire community of Barnsley that survives on the coal mine in town. That's all that Billy has to look forward to later in life in between the petty tyrants that surround him in the form of his older brother, employer, and teachers. On a walk one day, he finds a kestrel nest and takes one of the chicks home to raise. The small hawk becomes his escape and we watch him train the bird, which he calls Kes.

One of the absolute joys of this film is the fact that it's extremely obvious that David Bradley is actually doing everything his character is doing. From the training of the bird to his explanation of how to raise it to his class, the movie is touched by a genuineness that's hard to replicate.



And a large part of that has to do with the fact that David Bradley does very little actual acting in the film.

Like all but a single member of the cast (the English teacher), David Bradley was a local of Barnsley that Ken Loach talked into appearing in the film. Essentially, Billy Casper is just a slightly fictionalized version of David Bradley's real self. He wasn't asked to become someone he's not. He was given a bird (three actually), told to train it, and then put into scenes where he had to act as himself. There's a nice little scene, filmed guerilla style, where Billy goes into the library to ask about a book on falconry, and the interaction with the librarian is completely adlibbed.

In terms of performance, I imagine professional actors would think less of Bradley's work because there's so little acting involved, but in terms of its use in the movie, Bradley's presence is one of the biggest things that makes the film work as well as it does.

In Conclusion

Child performances are hard to capture. Children simply aren't emotionally mature enough to, on their own, shed themselves on the outside and convey another person through them, not to mention remembering dialogue. A director needs to either put in a lot of work to craft a performance, or a director needs to find a child who is simply the perfect fit for the role already.

The kind of child performance that is actually convincing is rare.

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:

Nothin'. There's a virus, dontcha know.

Next in my Netflix Queue:

Tiefland

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:

1917 (Rating 4/4) Full Review "My brain was firing on every cylinder as this movie progressed. It was about the halfway point when I realized I was watching something truly special, something more than just another great movie but something that stood out from the rest of the crowd." [Personal Collection]
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (Rating 4/4) Full Review "I absolutely love this movie in all its macabre glory. I love Sondheim's music. I love the look of the film from costumes to set design to the special effects. I love the performances. I love the story. I love how everything weaves together in a complete package." [Personal Collection]
The 39 Steps (Rating 4/4) Full Review "The whole experience is a wonderful adventure, well told, and with a winning pair of central characters to carry the audience through with. It's easily Hitchcock's best movie up to this point, where the technical and narrative elements came together and meshed perfectly. It's a great time at the movies." [Personal Collection]
Aquaman (Rating 1/4) Full Review "I really did not like this movie. It's thin with little focus and an almost complete inability to tell a story. I imagine it's not going to age particularly well for those who were blown away by it on their first viewing." [HBO Max]
Rebecca (Rating 4/4) Full Review "This is a sort of greatness that Hitchcock, up to this point, hadn't really been working towards." [Personal Collection]
Suspicion (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "In the end, though, the movie's an intricately built, really well realized story of, well, suspicion." [Youtube]
Van Helsing (Rating 2/4) Full Review "It's a guilty pleasure, and I have no real problem admitting that." [Personal Collection]
Secret Agent (Rating 2/4) Full Review "It's a mixed bag. There's some basically entertaining stuff, mostly deriving from Peter Lorre and the chase sequences, but the mix of genres doesn't work and Elsa is not really a good character." [Youtube]

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1 Near the top?

Posted by: Kathy at June 27, 2020 07:53 PM (Me4XW)

2 Yep!

Posted by: Kathy at June 27, 2020 07:54 PM (Me4XW)

3 Go away kid, you're bothering me.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 27, 2020 07:54 PM (qZdIZ)

4 Rats, had 1 more post downstairs

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 07:54 PM (6f16T)

5 Movie sign!

Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 07:54 PM (nnf6G)

6 Now that I'm a grumpy old man I understand that line. I plan on using it a lot to all of the BLM and Antifa activists I come across.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at June 27, 2020 07:56 PM (qZdIZ)

7 With American animation apparently running to "only people of race can play people of race", shouldn't woke anime fans start demanding the same?

And to the American companies suddenly signalling-It isn't good enough to change going forward. All past episodes must be redubbed, and until then all those episodes should be removed from syndication, streaming and sale this is done.

Alynski #4 bitches.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 07:57 PM (Ojki1)

8 Seventh Voyage of Sinbad on Sven.

Hard Day's Night on TCM.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 07:57 PM (nnf6G)

9 8 Seventh Voyage of Sinbad on Sven.

Hard Day's Night on TCM.
Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 07:57 PM (nnf6G)

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Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix in my Blu-ray player.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 07:58 PM (LvTSG)

10 Seventh Voyage of Sven on Sinbad

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 07:58 PM (NWiLs)

11 Oliver Harper watches Mad Max Beyond the Thunderdome

https://youtu.be/axankiYHBSs

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 27, 2020 07:58 PM (LxTcq)

12 Jodie Foster I think was a great childhood actress

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 07:59 PM (6f16T)

13 12 Jodie Foster I think was a great childhood actress
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 07:59 PM (6f16T)

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I've read the opinion that young girls are generally better actors than young boys of the same age.

I don't know if that's true, but I've read it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:00 PM (LvTSG)

14 At this point, I'm all for banning child actors. Too many of the kids end up being totally screwed up for life. Disney runs a factory of messing up kids.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 27, 2020 08:00 PM (J70i0)

15 Bogdonavich is a hack! Kubrick would've busted Tatum through 172 takes.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:01 PM (Dc2NZ)

16 Jodie Foster I think was a great childhood actress
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 07:59 PM (6f16T)

Yu talking to me?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:01 PM (85Gof)

17 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 27, 2020 08:01 PM (arJlL)

18 Jackie Earle Hayley was a pretty good child actor in the Bad News Bears. Then, after Breaking Away, he disappeared for a generation, then came back and seems to work pretty steady. He's so ugly he gets parts. He was good as a chronic child molester in Little Children. (I think it was called).

Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 08:02 PM (nnf6G)

19 Jodie Foster I think was a great childhood actress

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 07:59 PM (6f16T)

I caught some 70's film with her in it when she was a teen and she had an affair with an older man. It was the 70's and there was a nude scene where I guess they used her older sister.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 27, 2020 08:02 PM (J70i0)

20 I don't care what Bogdonavich said he did , O'Neal made the movie . Maybe he wanted more credit.


Hallie Eisenberg was a good child actor IMHO.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:03 PM (2DOZq)

21 7 With American animation apparently running to "only people of race can play people of race", shouldn't woke anime fans start demanding the same?
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You mean like call them to the star chamber for the preponderance of blonde characters and European settings?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:03 PM (Dc2NZ)

22 -Here's how Bogdonavich talked about working with her: "one of the most miserable experiences of my life."

He made that performance by working with little Tatum repeatedly, by having her do take after take (sometimes as often as 50) just to get her to say the lines right. It takes a lot of work on the part of a director and the entire crew to get that kind of a performance from an actor who's not naturally inclined to do it-

Only 50 takes?

Lightweight.

Posted by: Kubrick at June 27, 2020 08:03 PM (Ojki1)

23 Watched a depressing movie on Hulu called 'Aniara,' about a group of doomed colonists on a lost spaceship. It's said Swedish movies have only two emotional colors; despair and utter despair. There is plenty of both.

And in the middle of the movie is a full on orgy scene with full-front t's, d's, and bushes.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 08:04 PM (N30JC)

24 21 7 With American animation apparently running to "only people of race can play people of race", shouldn't woke anime fans start demanding the same?
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You mean like call them to the star chamber for the preponderance of blonde characters and European settings?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:03 PM (Dc2NZ)

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I can't wait for them to discover Orson Welles' Othello.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:04 PM (LvTSG)

25 He's so ugly he gets parts.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 08:02 PM (nnf6G)

Having a distinctive look is more important than looking perfectly beautiful. Good looks are a dime a dozen.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 27, 2020 08:04 PM (J70i0)

26 23 Watched a depressing movie on Hulu called 'Aniara,' about a group of doomed colonists on a lost spaceship. It's said Swedish movies have only two emotional colors; despair and utter despair. There is plenty of both.

And in the middle of the movie is a full on orgy scene with full-front t's, d's, and bushes.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 08:04 PM (N30JC)

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A guy at work has recommended that to me a couple of times. I've never gotten around to it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:05 PM (LvTSG)

27 Diane Lane was a child actor in a movie called A Little Romance with Laurence Olivier. It's wonderful if you haven't seen it.

She's has a good long and steady career.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 08:05 PM (nnf6G)

28 Jodie Foster I think was a great childhood actress

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 07:59 PM (6f16T)

That's good because I think she's a terrible actress as an adult. To me she's what critics here say about Streep.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:05 PM (2DOZq)

29 -1917 (Rating 4/4) Full Review "My brain was firing on every cylinder as this movie progressed. It was about the halfway point when I realized I was watching something truly special, something more than just another great movie but something that stood out from the rest of the crowd." [Personal Collection]-

Maybe I need to revisit this. So many people loved it, but it 4/4 me. Maybe I was just in the wrong place at the time.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 08:06 PM (Ojki1)

30 Meyer talked about having Shatner doing the scene where he tells Khan "Here it comes" over and over to get Shatner to say it right.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 27, 2020 08:06 PM (J70i0)

31 Hey everybody. Yay movie thread! Thanks TJM! And hi Moviegique! Still looking forward to your thoughts on my screenplay. :-)

Re kids in movies: I believe the only child Kubrick ever worked with is Danny in The Shining, played by Danny Lloyd. I don' know how he got around the natural issues of working with a child, but I know there's at least one example of assistants telling Danny exactly what to do the whole time a scene was being shot.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:07 PM (L2ZTs)

32 27 Diane Lane was a child actor in a movie called A Little Romance with Laurence Olivier. It's wonderful if you haven't seen it.

She's has a good long and steady career.
Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 08:05 PM (nnf6G)
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I just saw that recently. The kids were naturals.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:08 PM (Dc2NZ)

33 Maybe I need to revisit this. So many people loved it, but it 4/4 me. Maybe I was just in the wrong place at the time.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 08:06 PM (Ojki1)

It's a good film, but I wasn't overwhelmed by it either. The one long take I think grows tiresome after a bit. Also, I hated the German pilot scene. It felt gratuitously nasty towards the Germans.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 27, 2020 08:09 PM (J70i0)

34 The kid who played John Wayne's kidnapped grandson in Big Jake was actually his son, Ethan Wayne.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 08:09 PM (nnf6G)

35 TJM, I did not know that Bogdanovich had such a hard time working with Tatum O'Neill on Paper Moon. I only watched it a few years ago and really liked it.

I'm a bit surprised her dad Ryan didn't or wouldn't help with giving her instruction, or maybe he did? Not sure.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:10 PM (L2ZTs)

36 You mean like call them to the star chamber for the preponderance of blonde characters and European settings?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:03 PM (Dc2NZ)

That can be fine. I'm thinking all the white actors playing Japanese characters. Now this will suck for all the non-woke white VAs, but given more than a few are virtual signalers at east they should be made to eat some crow.

If not Get Woke-Go Broke, then Get Woke-Get Made Uncomfortable At Conventions When Your Wokeness Gets Thrown Back In Your Faces.

Ok that's long I admit.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 08:10 PM (Ojki1)

37 So, no mention of Jake Lloyd?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 08:10 PM (N30JC)

38 Arguably my two least favorite actors were the kid who played Anakin Skywalker in Phantom Menace and Short Round in Temple of Doom. Just awful, IMO.

Posted by: Grampa Simpson at June 27, 2020 08:10 PM (VWp7G)

39 14 At this point, I'm all for banning child actors. Too many of the kids end up being totally screwed up for life. Disney runs a factory of messing up kids.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 27, 2020 08:00 PM (J70i0)

Have to agree with you on this. I can't think of one movie I've ever loved because of a child actor. Maybe it's because of knowing what usually happens to these poor kids behind the scenes. Where are their parents and why are they so eager to sacrifice their children for stardom?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at June 27, 2020 08:10 PM (8/7u2)

40 I did, however, like Natalie Portman in The Professional.

Posted by: Grampa Simpson at June 27, 2020 08:11 PM (VWp7G)

41 I liked it that Moses didn't like Franky D. Roosevelt.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 27, 2020 08:11 PM (+y/Ru)

42 30 years ago I was imprisoned in summer school and the only saving grace was that my evil English teacher was hot (and that was HER only saving grace). We were subjected to Rebecca and North by Northwest. As a result, while Mr. Hitchcock certainly has his moments and has come up with some good movies, I don't think of him as a legend as do others. The aforementioned movies made me want to stick hot needles in my eyes.

MCMXVII is indeed a good movie, if only because it is a graphic depiction of WWI. There are a lot of WWI stories to be mined out there and because, I suspect, it is because it was a terrible, needless war, it hasn't been examined on film nearly enough.

I thought Van Helsing was entertaining. Not the greatest movie by any stretch but entertaining.

Sweeney Todd's a musical, right? HARD pass. (I do that to ALL musicals. I saw enough of them in Germany on AFN growing up to know I do not like the concept of a musical.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:11 PM (ejsiI)

43 Haley Osment did a good job in 6th Sense, showed good emotions in that.

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 08:11 PM (6f16T)

44 Off, Simpsons sock!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 08:12 PM (VWp7G)

45 Lucas Black was the go to for the southern kid role. He was really good.

I like the way he talked.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:12 PM (2DOZq)

46 Baby Leroy

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 27, 2020 08:12 PM (aKsyK)

47 -Re kids in movies: I believe the only child Kubrick ever worked with is Danny in The Shining, played by Danny Lloyd. I don' know how he got around the natural issues of working with a child, but I know there's at least one example of assistants telling Danny exactly what to do the whole time a scene was being shot.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:07 PM (L2ZTs)-

Kubrick reportedly also never let Danny know what kind of film he was in, which would make it much harder for him to have a natural performance anyway I'd imagine.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 08:13 PM (Ojki1)

48 I watched a movie a couple nights ago. Ad Astra. Have you ever watched a movie that sucks so bad, you keep watching it to see if it can suck worse? I didn't know Brad Pitt and Tommy Lee Jones were so hard up for money.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 27, 2020 08:13 PM (C1Lsn)

49 The kid who lives across the street from me was on a Nickelodeon TV series for a couple of years. He seems to have turned out alright, but his mother is German and she very probably did not take her eye off of him during filming and afterward.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 08:13 PM (nnf6G)

50 39 14 At this point, I'm all for banning child actors. Too many of the kids end up being totally screwed up for life. Disney runs a factory of messing up kids.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 27, 2020 08:00 PM (J70i0)

Have to agree with you on this. I can't think of one movie I've ever loved because of a child actor. Maybe it's because of knowing what usually happens to these poor kids behind the scenes. Where are their parents and why are they so eager to sacrifice their children for stardom?
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at June 27, 2020 08:10 PM (8/7u2)

Indeed, it's depressing what happens to child actors - even those we may have enjoyed seeing on TV or in movies over time.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:13 PM (ejsiI)

51

Jean-Pierre Leaud was good in Les Quatre Cents Coups (The 400 Blows) (not a prono). He would continue the character of Antoine Doinel through 4 more movies over 20 years.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (XKWDE)

52 Christian Bale didn't do too bad as a child actor.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (2DOZq)

53 42 MCMXVII is indeed a good movie, if only because it is a graphic depiction of WWI. There are a lot of WWI stories to be mined out there and because, I suspect, it is because it was a terrible, needless war, it hasn't been examined on film nearly enough.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:11 PM (ejsiI)

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There were a decent number of films dealing with WWI after the fact, but the move to talkies made things like war movies harder to manage for a few years, which slowed things down, sound redirected efforts towards things like musicals, and the political situation began looking forward to the next conflict in Europe by the 30s.

It was more than 20 years between WWII and Vietnam and they didn't have the same technical challenges, which allowed a greater opportunity to make movies about the recent conflict.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (LvTSG)

54 They sure fucked up Judy Garland.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (85Gof)

55 48 I watched a movie a couple nights ago. Ad Astra. Have you ever watched a movie that sucks so bad, you keep watching it to see if it can suck worse? I didn't know Brad Pitt and Tommy Lee Jones were so hard up for money.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 27, 2020 08:13 PM (C1Lsn

The train wreck analogy. You want to look away because the carnage will be so terrible but for that reason you can't stop watching.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (ejsiI)

56 48 bill- yes, all the time

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (6f16T)

57 Our gang were great childhood actors.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (remPZ)

58 RE: Jake LLoyd...

"Nobody likes kids, especially ones who can't act." - Mr. Plinkett.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (VWp7G)

59 Haley Osment did a good job in 6th Sense, showed good emotions in that.
Posted by: Skip

He was in an episode of What We Do in the Shadows this season. He had discovered carbohydrates. Wow.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (nnf6G)

60 One of the worst movies I ever saw (and by "saw", I mean on a plane while listening to my iPod) was "Little Miss Sunshine". Absolutely hideous. But it was critically acclaimed.

Posted by: Mookie at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (3vIkC)

61 Christian Bale didn't do too bad as a child actor.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (2DOZq)

Isn't he a rabid leflty

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:15 PM (85Gof)

62 Van Helsing (Rating 2/4) Full Review "It's a guilty pleasure, and I have no real problem admitting that." [Personal Collection]

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:52 PM

I have always liked it as well. Because I like Hugh Jackman and wowsah did I used to have a major crush on Kate Beckinsale (until I found out a few years ago that she's full on pro-abortion).

Also has Faramir from "Lord of the Rings" and Dilios from "300" for comic relief. (David Wenham)

All around good popcorn flick.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:15 PM (Do5/p)

63 Christian Bale didn't do too bad as a child actor.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (2DOZq)

Isn't he a rabid leflty
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:15 PM (85Gof)

aren't they all?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:15 PM (2DOZq)

64 I agree about kid actors, in general.

Oddly enough, Ron Howard in the movie "Courtship of Eddie's Father" was astonishing. Fooker was good.

the cast of Stranger Things was very good as well.

And the cast of Super 8. Also excellent.

But often, kid roles range from barely tolerable to execrable.

Jackie Coogan in The Kid was amazing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:15 PM (x8Wzq)

65 Is there an age cut off for child actors/actresses?

It seems that 12 and under might be a handful, but 12-18 do OK.

Breaking Away, Bad News Bears, Sound of Music...

Posted by: browndog at June 27, 2020 08:16 PM (BgMrQ)

66 50 Midgets for the win. No problems with them on the Wizard of Oz production. Well, maybe a few.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 27, 2020 08:16 PM (C1Lsn)

67 Haley Osment's best job was in Second Hand Lions.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 08:16 PM (remPZ)

68 Christian Bale didn't do too bad as a child actor.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (2DOZq)

Isn't he a rabid leflty
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:15 PM (85Gof)

aren't they all?
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:15 PM (2DOZq)

Actually I think the aforementioned Lucas Black is not a Lefty.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:16 PM (2DOZq)

69 wife is not talking to me. Finished up a Root Canal on her today. Sigh. Anyone got a dog house to rent

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:16 PM (85Gof)

70 having her do take after take (sometimes as often as 50) just to get her to say the lines right.

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Imagine directing one of Biden's commercials.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 27, 2020 08:16 PM (+y/Ru)

71 A good child actor is just a good actor. You're identifying with their characters and get lost in the story. Think of the kids in "Stand By Me", "Stranger Things", "This Boy's Life", etc.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:17 PM (Dc2NZ)

72 43

Haley Osment did a good job in 6th Sense, showed good emotions in that.

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 08:11 PM

Thought he was good in Secondhand Lions as well.

Hope he realizes what an honor that was for him to work with two all time greats in Michael Caine and Robert Duvall.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:17 PM (Do5/p)

73 The gangly-nerd kid from Sixteen Candles (can't think of his name) turned out to be a surprisingly good actor as an adult. He has a Steve McQueen vibe.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 08:17 PM (nnf6G)

74 There were a decent number of films dealing with WWI after the fact, but the move to talkies made things like war movies harder to manage for a few years, which slowed things down, sound redirected efforts towards things like musicals, and the political situation began looking forward to the next conflict in Europe by the 30s.

It was more than 20 years between WWII and Vietnam and they didn't have the same technical challenges, which allowed a greater opportunity to make movies about the recent conflict.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (LvTSG)

True. For instance, the original All Quiet on the Western Front (I never have seen it) came out in 1930. (As I have said on here many times before, I saw the version that came out circa 1980 and it is quite possibly the most depressing movie I have ever seen.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:17 PM (ejsiI)

75

One of the few child actors who moved to a successful career as an adult was Roddy McDowell. Roddy started in movies at the age of 10 and kept going right up until the end. 60 years as an actor.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2020 08:18 PM (XKWDE)

76 Blutarski, Anthony Michael Hall?

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:18 PM (L2ZTs)

77 NGU, comeonna my house.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 08:18 PM (remPZ)

78 ah. “Quvenzhané” is pronounced “Kwah-ven-zha-nay”

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:18 PM (Dc2NZ)

79 66 50 Midgets for the win. No problems with them on the Wizard of Oz production. Well, maybe a few.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 27, 2020 08:16 PM (C1Lsn)

There is a whole movie about that- Under the Rainbow

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 08:18 PM (Ojki1)

80 Oh yeah, Haley Joel Osment. Wonderful in The Sixth Sense. Also very good in Secondhand Lions, when he was a teenager.

But he got weird and puffy as he reached "adulthood."

Posted by: Pug Mahon, thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:18 PM (x8Wzq)

81 69 wife is not talking to me. Finished up a Root Canal on her today. Sigh. Anyone got a dog house to rent
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:16 PM (85Gof)

Move over little dog, the big ol dog is movin in....

Posted by: Mookie at June 27, 2020 08:18 PM (3vIkC)

82 One actor who started as a kid and kept going, going, going was, of course, Mickey Rooney.

Although I've read by the time Rooney was 21 he had such a swelled head, no one could stand him.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (L2ZTs)

83 Quvenzhane Wallis

Sounds like something dangerous in a tanker truck that should probably be placarded.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (OOEFM)

84 Well NGU we are all here.

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (6f16T)

85 "wife is not talking to me. Finished up a Root Canal on her today""

You work on your wife's teeth? Are you crazy?

Posted by: f'd at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (A3ioB)

86 Our gang were great childhood actors.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 08:14 PM (remPZ)

Alfafa was in it's a Wonderful Life for a scene. Got stabbed to death not too long after.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (2DOZq)

87 Cough.

Kurt. Fucking. Russell.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (x8Wzq)

88 Blutarski, Anthony Michael Hall?
Posted by: qdpsteve

Bingo! Farmer Ted. I think he was also Rusty in a Vacation movie.

Posted by: Blutarski at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (nnf6G)

89 Portman's performance in The Professional is her best. Luc Beeson directed and has a nice feel for directing actresses.

Posted by: azalea city at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (WX+x0)

90 One kid that did a good job, IMO, is the little girl in Aliens. Also, in probably her only good acting role, Kirsten Dunst in Interview With The Vampire, a.k.a. Maverick the Vampire.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (ejsiI)

91 You work on your wife's teeth? Are you crazy?
Posted by: f'd at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (A3ioB)

Isn't that obvious after all these years?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (85Gof)

92 Lucas Black is in both "Legion" and the bad Fast and Furious (3?), both of which I enjoyed.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (Dc2NZ)

93 48
I watched a movie a couple nights ago. Ad Astra. Have you ever watched
a movie that sucks so bad, you keep watching it to see if it can suck
worse.


meh. i quit paying attention when our hero stowed away on the rocket by climbing up between the engine nozzles and opening a door into the cabin.

Posted by: Anachronda at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (kf5Ci)

94 Blutarski, he was.

Anthony Michael Hall was also I believe a cast member on SNL for a short time, along with Robert Downey Jr.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (L2ZTs)

95 wife is not talking to me. Finished up a Root Canal on her today.

Started when you handed her the bill, didn't it?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (qc+VF)

96 Robert Downey Jr actually did some acting as a kid as well. He was in his father's 1975 film, Putney Swope.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (L2ZTs)

97 What a bunch of haters! Leave the child actors alone, damnit. I wish one of my brood brought home bags and bags of sweet Benjamins for crying on the screen (big or little).

As Buckwheat would say, "Not O-tay!"

Posted by: eastofsuez at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (U2zca)

98 Having a distinctive look is more important than looking perfectly beautiful. Good looks are a dime a dozen.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 27, 2020 08:04 PM (J70i0)

Jennifer Grey wishes someone would have told her that, I bet.

Posted by: Catherine at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (xCB6Z)

99 It was praised roundly for the central performance by the five year old Quvenzhane Wallis.

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From places like the NYT and white people in Hollywood?

You don't want to think too hard about why.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 27, 2020 08:21 PM (0Oypp)

100 Anthony Michael Hall was also I believe a cast member on SNL for a short time, along with Robert Downey Jr.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (L2ZTs)

Weird Science

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:21 PM (2DOZq)

101 Jennifer Grey wishes someone would have told her that, I bet.
Posted by: Catherine at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (xCB6Z)

Yup. Rich people and their money

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:21 PM (85Gof)

102 I never realized Joaquin Phoenix started out as a child actor until I saw he was in Parenthood. A friend and I were talking about that last night.

(Oh, stop. I hadn't seen Parenthood in close to 30 years and I am not exactly the walking IMDB...)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:21 PM (ejsiI)

103 wife is not talking to me. Finished up a Root Canal on her today.


Brilliant. I need to try this.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 27, 2020 08:21 PM (OOEFM)

104 Molly Ringwald was also pretty much a child actress. She started up on The Facts Of Life in 1980, when she was 12 (but already looked 15).

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:22 PM (L2ZTs)

105 64

I agree about kid actors, in general.

And the cast of Super 8. Also excellent.

But often, kid roles range from barely tolerable to execrable.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:15 PM

Was just about to post about "Super 8". Great movie and kids did a great job.

As far as tolerable/execrable range... I thought Dakota Fanning was great in "Man on Fire" with Denzel Washington and was absolutely unwatchable in "War of the Worlds" with Tom Cruise. In fact, both of Cruise's character's kids in that movie were unwatchable. I actually liked that movie in general, but I can't watch it again, because the kids ruin the entire thing for me.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:22 PM (Do5/p)

106 Bubba is on Watters World

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 08:22 PM (6f16T)

107 I watched a movie a couple nights ago. Ad Astra.
Have you ever watched a movie that sucks so bad, you keep watching it to
see if it can suck worse? I didn't know Brad Pitt and Tommy Lee Jones
were so hard up for money.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 27, 2020 08:13 PM (C1Lsn)

The film wanted to be deep, but was more shallow than a sidewalk puddle. The science was worthy of a schlock B-movie.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 27, 2020 08:22 PM (J70i0)

108 Anthony Michael Hall was also I believe a cast member on SNL for a short time, along with Robert Downey Jr.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (L2ZTs)

Mike was in an episode of Community, and I could not help wondering if Chevy Chase remembered he and Hall being in a movie together. Chevy Chase is a fuckstick.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:22 PM (x8Wzq)

109 I'm watching "Batman: the Animated Series". Was discussing this with a friend: why do the animated versions get it so right? (we also love the hilarious foul-mouthed animated Harley Quinn).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:22 PM (Dc2NZ)

110 I'm glad Mrs f'd is not a Proctologist.

Posted by: f'd at June 27, 2020 08:23 PM (A3ioB)

111 All Hail Eris, I have rewatched Legion a bunch.

It is a much more subtle version of Dogma in the references.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 08:23 PM (remPZ)

112 Posted by: Pug Mahon, thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:22 PM (x8Wzq)

I miss Community.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:23 PM (2DOZq)

113 87 Cough.

Kurt. Fucking. Russell.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (x8Wzq)


The Computer Wore Tennis Shores FTW!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 27, 2020 08:24 PM (PiwSw)

114 (we also love the hilarious foul-mouthed animated Harley Quinn).

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How foul mouthed? Actual cursing? We bought it for our youngest when it was on sale but he's not quite ready for it yet.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 27, 2020 08:24 PM (0Oypp)

115 Bubba Smollett finished 22nd at Pocono today.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 27, 2020 08:24 PM (xPl2J)

116 Midgets for the win.

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Thousand Milimeter Reich couldn't be a worse child actor than he is an economist.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 27, 2020 08:24 PM (+y/Ru)

117 Shoes

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 27, 2020 08:24 PM (PiwSw)

118 I just recently discovered that Jeff Bridges and Kurt Russell are not the same person.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 27, 2020 08:25 PM (0Oypp)

119 wife is not talking to me. Finished up a Root Canal on her today.



Started when you handed her the bill, didn't it?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (qc+VF)


Ha!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2020 08:25 PM (XKWDE)

120 118 I just recently discovered that Jeff Bridges and Kurt Russell are not the same person.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 27, 2020 08:25 PM (0Oypp)

==========

I had trouble telling the difference between Gary Busey and Nick Nolte for a very long time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:25 PM (LvTSG)

121 118 Thought it was just me.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at June 27, 2020 08:25 PM (C1Lsn)

122 Bubba Smollett finished 22nd at Pocono today.


Posted by: Mark1971 at June 27, 2020 08:24 PM (xPl2J)


Racism at work again

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2020 08:26 PM (XKWDE)

123 Bale was great in Empire of the Sun

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 27, 2020 08:26 PM (nFRLh)

124 Disney has been skewing towards the 'correct' race for voice actors for their animateds for years. Never about the talent.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 08:26 PM (kibtE)

125 Hall played Bill Gates in a tv movie about Bill Gates and Steve Jobs. It was kind of a come back as he had not really been heard from in years by the average viewer.

btw, if we are counting tv, you have to say Ron Howard was a good child actor who turned out to be pretty successful in Hollywood. He is a big left of course.

Rick Schroeder seems like more of a normal but who knows. Hc was a child actor and did some good stuff later in life.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 08:26 PM (hHxp2)

126 Moron Robbie, it's this one:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7658402/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3

It's got profanity, suggestive dialog, and stuff/people get blowed up.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:26 PM (Dc2NZ)

127 123 Bale was great in Empire of the Sun
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 27, 2020 08:26 PM (nFRLh)

===========

There's a bit in the behind the scenes documentary where you can see Spielberg get really mad at him. It's interesting to see.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:26 PM (LvTSG)

128 I just recently discovered that Jeff Bridges and Kurt Russell are not the same person.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 27, 2020 08:25 PM (0Oypp)

Jeff is the one who talks around a mouth full of water.

or bourbon.

Seriously, two of my all-time favorites.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:27 PM (x8Wzq)

129 Rick Schroeder seems like more of a normal but who knows. Hc was a child actor and did some good stuff later in life.
Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 08:26 PM (hHxp2)

I could be wrong, but I think he is a conservative

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:27 PM (85Gof)

130 Kurt. Fucking. Russell.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (x8Wzq)




He was good in that The Man From UNCLE episode

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2020 08:27 PM (XKWDE)

131 Bill Mumy

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 27, 2020 08:27 PM (PiwSw)

132 I like Margaret O'Brien's performance in Meet Me in St. Louis. Singing, dancing, and a lot of different moods.

Posted by: GibsonGirl at June 27, 2020 08:27 PM (Pmbd2)

133 I thought the kid in Get The Gringo did a good job. Or at least made the movie surprisingly enjoyable. I definitely eye-rolled when I figured out he was going to figure big in the movie (not what I expected), but he turned that around. Don't know how much of that was Gibson bonding with the kid, or if it was all imagined.

I've been on a spaghetti western kick the past few weeks. Man, some of them are extra special weird. Terence Hill especially turns in some very uneven performances. Sometimes in the same scene. Think he was on acid half the time.

Posted by: clutch cargo at June 27, 2020 08:28 PM (8B6Ng)

134 My bad, there was a mention of Jake Lloyd

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 08:28 PM (N30JC)

135 i quit paying attention when our hero stowed away on the rocket by climbing up between the engine nozzles and opening a door into the cabin.
Posted by: Anachronda

Maybe it was a hatchback.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 27, 2020 08:28 PM (+y/Ru)

136 Rick Schroeder seems like more of a normal but who knows. Hc was a child actor and did some good stuff later in life.
Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 08:26 PM (hHxp2

Screw Schroeder. He made me tear up in the theater.

Wake up Champ! Wake up !

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:28 PM (2DOZq)

137

Decades TV weekend marathon is The Wild Wild West. Good stuff. Too bad West and Gordon didn't stop Miguelito Fauci back then

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2020 08:28 PM (XKWDE)

138 Speaking of actors, well sort of, everyone see that mug shot of Ron jeremy in court? Holy shit, he looks 1/2 dead

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:29 PM (85Gof)

139 Harley Quinn the character was created just for Batman: The Animated Series.

Her character is lightning in the bottle that should have served as a cautionary tale. She starts off as a psychologist trying to figure Joker out and instead he flips her to become his insane sidekick.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 08:29 PM (kibtE)

140 Rick Schroeder seems like more of a normal but who knows. Hc was a child actor and did some good stuff later in life.
Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 08:26 PM (hHxp2)

I could be wrong, but I think he is a conservative
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:27 PM (85Gof)

Not sure about his political leanings, but he was awesome in Lonesome Dove.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:29 PM (x8Wzq)

141 TJM,

How about a piece on supporting actors?

George Sanders would be a fun one to review: Rebecca, All About Eve, Ghost and Mrs Muir, Shere Khan (voice only).

Posted by: browndog at June 27, 2020 08:29 PM (BgMrQ)

142 121 118 Thought it was just me

Nope, me too. When I saw the second Guardians of the Galaxy movie, I was totally convinced that Ego was supposed to be the same character as Starman.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 27, 2020 08:29 PM (qc+VF)

143 Speaking of actors, well sort of, everyone see that mug shot of Ron jeremy in court? Holy shit, he looks 1/2 dead
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Acting takes a lot outta ya.

Posted by: JT at June 27, 2020 08:30 PM (arJlL)

144 Jessie let Bubba get away fairly easy, wonder what Tuck might have asked.

Empire of the Sun is a good movie

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 08:30 PM (6f16T)

145 Moron Robbie, it's this one:

-

Thanks. We've just got the Batman one. I think it was on TV in the 90s so I assumed it was okay, but there are openly gay cartoon characters on 6 year olds' programs now so I'm pretty gun shy.

(complains yet again about those jerks pushing ANY form of sexuality to little kids who still believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 27, 2020 08:30 PM (0Oypp)

146 141 TJM,

How about a piece on supporting actors?

George Sanders would be a fun one to review: Rebecca, All About Eve, Ghost and Mrs Muir, Shere Khan (voice only).
Posted by: browndog at June 27, 2020 08:29 PM (BgMrQ)

==========

Yeah, character actors or "that guy".

I'll ponder on it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:30 PM (LvTSG)

147 *Oh yeah, Haley Joel Osment. Wonderful in The Sixth Sense. Also very good in Secondhand Lions, when he was a teenager.*

Love, love, love Secondhand Lions.

But, wow, Robert Duvall out-acting Michael Caine is all.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 08:30 PM (N30JC)

148 I'm watching "Batman: the Animated Series". Was discussing this with a friend: why do the animated versions get it so right? (we also love the hilarious foul-mouthed animated Harley Quinn).
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:22 PM (Dc2NZ)

Probably in part because they don't need to match voice and look in an actor, opening up a pool of talent they might otherwise pass on.

Also helps when the production team loves the characters/stories, as the team on B:TAS were fans, where as it wouldn't shock me if Christopher Nolan, Tim Burton etc. had never read more than a handful of comics, and probably the same handful of The Killing Joke and Dark Knight Returns. Mister Freeze never was more than a gimmick until Paul Dini gave him an actual backstory.

That plus lower budget and expectations versus live action allow for more freedom-the main creators of B:TAS had never been in charge of a series before and admit on various commentaries/interviews that some of the things they did that worked they never would have done "had they known better". One big example is B:TAS backgrounds were done on black paper, something everyone with experience in the industry "knew" not to do.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 08:31 PM (Ojki1)

149 Yeah, character actors or "that guy".

I'll ponder on it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:30 PM (LvTSG)

Better way to phrase it...

Thanks

Posted by: browndog at June 27, 2020 08:32 PM (BgMrQ)

150 Jackie Cooper and Jackie Coogan.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 27, 2020 08:32 PM (aKsyK)

151 As far as tolerable/execrable range... I thought Dakota Fanning was great in "Man on Fire" with Denzel Washington and was absolutely unwatchable in "War of the Worlds" with Tom Cruise. In fact, both of Cruise's character's kids in that movie were unwatchable. I actually liked that movie in general, but I can't watch it again, because the kids ruin the entire thing for me.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:22 PM (Do5/p)

You mean you didn't like Dakota Fanning screaming the entire time in Maverick Versus The Martians?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:32 PM (ejsiI)

152 "One of the worst movies I ever saw (and by "saw", I mean on a plane while listening to my iPod) was "Little Miss Sunshine". Absolutely hideous."

The one thing I remember from this movie was the non-nonsensical subplot where their "clutch" was broken. So they then push start it, using what exactly? Duh!

Posted by: Chris M at June 27, 2020 08:32 PM (6XZdO)

153 Wil Wheaton was terrible. And is still terrible.

Manu Intiraymi was decent. He got canceled, naturally.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 08:32 PM (N30JC)

154 Also speaking of Actors: Been nice knowing ya Duke. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:33 PM (85Gof)

155 Dakota Fanning hit a high point in "Man On Fire"

Her sister can't
act her way out of a paper bag.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 08:33 PM (remPZ)

156 1917 was so good.
7500 on Amazon is a good watch.
Knuckle biter.

Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 08:33 PM (w7KSn)

157 7

With American animation apparently running to "only people of race can play people of race", shouldn't woke anime fans start demanding the same?

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 07:57 PM

Time to go all-in with this.

No more women playing men's characters (i.e. woman voicing Bart Simpson, females playing Peter Pan, etc.)

No more hetero-actors playing homosexual roles. And vice versa.

No more having 20- and 30-yo actors playing the roles of teenagers.

Let's go for a complete overhaul of how Hollywood and the stage operate.

Unfortunately, we'd then miss classic lines like "I know who I am! I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude."

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:33 PM (Do5/p)

158 But, wow, Robert Duvall out-acting Michael Caine is all.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 08:30 PM (N30JC)

Robert Duvall.

Holy hell, one of the finest actors ever. And still tough as a chunk of gristle.

And, get this: chock full of testosterone.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:33 PM (x8Wzq)

159 But, wow, Robert Duvall out-acting Michael Caine is all.


Duvall is marvelous even when phoning it in, *cough*A Night in Old Mexico*cough*

What about that home alone kid? He seems pretty good.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 27, 2020 08:34 PM (yQpMk)

160 >>>the cast of Stranger Things was very good as well.


I cannot stand the kid with no teeth and the "Jew-Fro." (40-Year Old Virgin Reference)

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 08:34 PM (VWp7G)

161 Oliver Platt and Stephen Root my two favorite character actors.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:34 PM (2DOZq)

162 60 "One of the worst movies I ever saw (and by "saw", I mean on a plane while listening to my iPod) was "Little Miss Sunshine". Absolutely hideous. But it was critically acclaimed."

It had its moments, but, yeah. After watching, I was roundly criticized for opining that Greg Kinnear really was the unsung hero, and he was surrounded by a family of ungrateful shitheads and losers.

No, he has to be the bad guy, amember how he discourages his fat daughter from pounding ice cream before a beauty contest?

And he's living a.pipe dream with his never give up seminars. You.mean his mental outlook that keeps this misbegotten clown act on the road?

Well, his dad praises him, so they aren't all bad! You mean the grandfather who teaches the fat kid to striptease across several weeks alone on the basement?

As far as I'm concerned, Kinnear is the here, and the only chance the kid has of escaping that shitshow of a family.

Posted by: ogmrobvious at June 27, 2020 08:34 PM (NVfrr)

163 Batman:The Animated Series went with the black paper because they wanted a darker feel and naturally such a dark background will mute even the brightest of colors.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 08:35 PM (kibtE)

164 TJM, how about a thread on what big name actors will do to meet the mortgage payment.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 08:35 PM (remPZ)

165 159 But, wow, Robert Duvall out-acting Michael Caine is all.


Duvall is marvelous even when phoning it in, *cough*A Night in Old Mexico*cough*

What about that home alone kid? He seems pretty good.
Posted by: Grump928 at June 27, 2020 08:34 PM (yQpMk)

=========

Macaulay Culkin is the rare child actor that obviously got messed with as a child and then ended up reasonably sane as an adult.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:35 PM (LvTSG)

166 Her character is lightning in the bottle that should have served as a cautionary tale. She starts off as a psychologist trying to figure Joker out and instead he flips her to become his insane sidekick.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 08:29 PM (kibtE)
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And she later kicks him to the curb. That was part of the story in this series, that everyone thinks she's Joker's side piece and she has to assemble her own band of freaks and get some respect (and t.v. coverage):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KAkUs1AWUU



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:35 PM (Dc2NZ)

167 147 *Oh yeah, Haley Joel Osment. Wonderful in The Sixth Sense. Also very good in Secondhand Lions, when he was a teenager.*

Love, love, love Secondhand Lions.

But, wow, Robert Duvall out-acting Michael Caine is all.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 08:30 PM (N30JC)

Sometimes you just get a perfect actor for that perfect role.

Whoever cast Second Hand Lions should have gotten an award for THAT.

Every character, from the stupid relatives, to the pretty but not gorgeous Jasmine, to the Evil Vizier...

All great casting choices.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM (NgKpN)

168 I wonder what method Tarantino used with Julia Butters. It strikes me that she's just a natural.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM (02yLa)

169 You mean you didn't like Dakota Fanning screaming the entire time in Maverick Versus The Martians?


I would have buried that kid in the basement with the mole man Robbins.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM (yQpMk)

170 164 TJM, how about a thread on what big name actors will do to meet the mortgage payment.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 08:35 PM (remPZ)

======

Star Wars movies according to Oscar Issac.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM (LvTSG)

171 103
wife is not talking to me. Finished up a Root Canal on her today.


Brilliant. I need to try this.


Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 27, 2020 08:21 PM (OOEFM)

++++
LOL.

Never cared for Jodie Foster. She is either looking pissed-off or about to be pissed-off. Makes me uncomfortable.

Posted by: washrivergal at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM (UAOfD)

172 Unfortunately, we'd then miss classic lines like "I know who I am! I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:33 PM (Do5/p)

Thank the Lord that Tropic Thunder was made in the Before Times.

*waves paw*

You know, back when folks had a FUCKING SENSE OF HUMOR!

Posted by: Pug Mahon thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM (x8Wzq)

173 Macaulay Culkin is the rare child actor that obviously got messed with as a child and then ended up reasonably sane as an adult.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:35 PM (LvTSG)

Has he? That is good to hear. Wasn't he tried to Micheal Jackson some how?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM (85Gof)

174 Greetings:

Not to contradict your thesis, but I usually find the performances of children in Korean movies (and there's usually at least one) pretty entertaining.

Posted by: 11B40 at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM (evgyj)

175 >>>Oliver Platt and Stephen Root my two favorite character actors.


Stephen Root was very good in No Country for Old Men, even in a few short scenes.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 08:37 PM (VWp7G)

176 NGU wrote yesterday its a matter of time old cowboy and Indian movies are banned.

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 08:37 PM (6f16T)

177 139 Harley Quinn the character was created just for Batman: The Animated Series.

Her character is lightning in the bottle that should have served as a cautionary tale. She starts off as a psychologist trying to figure Joker out and instead he flips her to become his insane sidekick.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 08:29 PM (kibtE)

Though her first appearance she was just a henchman (henchperson?). Paul Dini (and Bruce Timm?) just wanted Joker to have a female gang member, then they went and fleshed her out.

It really is amazing what that show did to help create/revamp "definitive" versions of some long time Batman characters.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 08:37 PM (Ojki1)

178 You mean you didn't like Dakota Fanning screaming the entire time in Maverick Versus The Martians?


I would have buried that kid in the basement with the mole man Robbins.
Posted by: Grump928 at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM (yQpMk)

I hated that movie and yeah she sucked in it. They all did

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (85Gof)

179 What about that home alone kid? He seems pretty good.

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He's done more than a couple of episodes with the red letter media guys. They watch and critique horrible movies. I don't know anything about him but he makes fun of himself a lot (in a good way).

The episode with Roar and Hawk Jones is worth a watch.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (Vd6qv)

180 154 Also speaking of Actors: Been nice knowing ya Duke. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:33 PM (85Gof)

LOL, what's he done now?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (NgKpN)

181 Manu Intiraymi was decent. He got canceled, naturally.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 08:32 PM (N30JC)

I finished up the last seasons of Voyager and now I know why Mike Stoklasa is in the Slough of Despond over the execrable "Picard". The character arcs of Seven of Nine and Icheb were great, and that new series basically flushed it all down the crapper.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (Dc2NZ)

182 85 "wife is not talking to me. Finished up a Root Canal on her today""

You work on your wife's teeth? Are you crazy?
Posted by: f'd at June 27, 2020 08:19 PM (A3ioB)


Next time, give her a shot of Novocaine before you start drilling.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg, weekend smartass at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (sy5kK)

183 Eris, eewww... that Harley lacks the cool crazy fun vibe Harley from Batman:The Animated Series has.

Seriously where are the hyenas?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (kibtE)

184 162 60 "One of the worst movies I ever saw (and by "saw", I mean on a plane while listening to my iPod) was "Little Miss Sunshine". Absolutely hideous. But it was critically acclaimed."

It had its moments, but, yeah. After watching, I was roundly criticized for opining that Greg Kinnear really was the unsung hero, and he was surrounded by a family of ungrateful shitheads and losers.

Exactly. There was no one in the movie even remotely likable. It was like watching a bad family reunion movie reel. Who wants to sit through that?

Posted by: Mookie at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (3vIkC)

185 NGU wrote yesterday its a matter of time old cowboy and Indian movies are banned.
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 08:37 PM (6f16T

Don't think that was me, but I do agree

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:39 PM (85Gof)

186
Exactly. There was no one in the movie even remotely likable. It was like watching a bad family reunion movie reel. Who wants to sit through that?
Posted by: Mookie at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (3vIkC)


Alien 3

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 27, 2020 08:39 PM (PiwSw)

187 Jennifer Grey wishes someone would have told her that, I bet.

Posted by: Catherine at June 27, 2020 08:20 PM (xCB6Z)

Yup.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 27, 2020 08:39 PM (J70i0)

188 176 NGU wrote yesterday its a matter of time old cowboy and Indian movies are banned.
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 08:37 PM (6f16T)

If you actually watch the John Ford / John Wayne Cavalry movies? They give great respect to the Indians.

I don't think you will get actual Indians who have a problem with them.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2020 08:40 PM (NgKpN)

189 There was no one in the movie even remotely likable.


The Watchmen Syndrome.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 27, 2020 08:40 PM (yQpMk)

190 Also speaking of Actors: Been nice knowing ya Duke. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:33 PM (85Gof)

LOL, what's he done now?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (NgKpN)

From that playboy interview over 50 years ago. His name on that Airport is doomed.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:40 PM (85Gof)

191 NGU wrote yesterday its a matter of time old cowboy and Indian movies are banned.
Posted by: Skip

they're gonna replace the native Americans with 7-11 Indians.

Posted by: JT at June 27, 2020 08:40 PM (arJlL)

192 The child actors in "Aliens" and "Last Action Hero" were pretty good. I didn't want to strangle them, that's my criterion.

And there's also "The Pit" but that has levels of weirdness all its own.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 27, 2020 08:40 PM (l9m7l)

193 Worst childhood actor was the kid that played Timmy in the Lassie movies. Out acted by a dog.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 08:41 PM (remPZ)

194 >>>The child actors in "Aliens" and "Last Action Hero" were pretty good. I didn't want to strangle them, that's my criterion.


Carrie Henn in Aliens. never did another film. She went out on top.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 08:41 PM (VWp7G)

195 169

You mean you didn't like Dakota Fanning screaming the entire time in Maverick Versus The Martians?

I would have buried that kid in the basement with the mole man Robbins.

Posted by: Grump928 at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM

Hell, I bet we could write a whole post on movies where we hoped the hero did NOT save the kids.

Here's one: "Taken"

My gosh was Maggie Grace's character a ridiculously selfish spoiled brat who I cared absolutely nothing about. I was just rooting for Liam Neeson's character to kick some ass.

Speaking of Maggie Grace, has she ever played a likable character? From "Taken" to "LOST" to "Lockout" with Guy Pearce, I have hated her characters in everything in which I have seen her.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:41 PM (Do5/p)

196 I loved the kid in Hope and Glory, although maybe the adult narrator voice made me think he was better. Anyway, one of my favorite movies.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at June 27, 2020 08:41 PM (99Nt9)

197 Also speaking of Actors: Been nice knowing ya Duke. Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:33 PM (85Gof)

LOL, what's he done now?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (NgKpN)

From that playboy interview over 50 years ago. His name on that Airport is doomed.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:40 PM (85Gof)

Fuck.

Immona take a walk.

Posted by: Pug Mahon thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:41 PM (x8Wzq)

198 I thought the feral boy in Mad Max did a good job.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at June 27, 2020 08:42 PM (Vd6qv)

199 George Sanders is marvelously reptilian in my favorite movie, All About Eve.
Movies that I love of the Before Times:
Blazing Saddles
The Producers
Tropic Thunder
Zorro the Gay Blade
Silver Streak

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at June 27, 2020 08:42 PM (PHxng)

200 Actual aliens should play aliens.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 27, 2020 08:42 PM (aKsyK)

201 198 I thought the feral boy in Mad Max did a good job.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at June 27, 2020 08:42 PM (Vd6qv)

==========

Possibly grew up to be the Max in Mad Max: Fury Road.

At least, that's a theory.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:42 PM (LvTSG)

202
Time to go all-in with this.

No more women playing men's characters (i.e. woman voicing Bart Simpson, females playing Peter Pan, etc.)

No more hetero-actors playing homosexual roles. And vice versa.

No more having 20- and 30-yo actors playing the roles of teenagers.

Let's go for a complete overhaul of how Hollywood and the stage operate.

Unfortunately, we'd then miss classic lines like "I know who I am! I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:33 PM (Do5/p)

I've been wanting to push the idea that only people with military service can play military service. SO I guess Adam Driver (who Twitter users keep trying to cancel cause of his service) would be in high demand then.

Oh, and only people who've ever voted for a single Republican can play the evil right wing villain. Guess that'd be a small revolving list of the same actors as well.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (Ojki1)

203 >>>I thought the feral boy in Mad Max did a good job.



Honestly, that kid wasn't bad. The Thunderdome kids were awful, though.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (VWp7G)

204 NGU I wrote that after watching a Duke Wayne movie

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (6f16T)

205 Clyde Shelton, I so much agree with you. Too bad you spoiled bitch.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (remPZ)

206 I am watching the 1994 version of Little Women with Winona Ryder and Christian Bale. The BBC version with Emily Watson is better IMO.

Posted by: Jmel at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (bVhJi)

207 George Sanders' character is the one with just a comment begins Dorian Gray's slide into evil.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (kibtE)

208 200 Actual aliens should play aliens.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 27, 2020 08:42 PM (aKsyK)


*tentacle bumps*

Posted by: Kang and Kodos at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (PiwSw)

209 162 60 "One of the worst movies I ever saw (and by "saw", I mean on a plane while listening to my iPod) was "Little Miss Sunshine". Absolutely hideous. But it was critically acclaimed."

It had its moments, but, yeah. After watching, I was roundly criticized for opining that Greg Kinnear really was the unsung hero, and he was surrounded by a family of ungrateful shitheads and losers.

Exactly. There was no one in the movie even remotely likable. It was like watching a bad family reunion movie reel. Who wants to sit through that?
Posted by: Mookie at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (3vIkC)

I actually liked it because it all came together towards the end in a positive way and I also thought they were showing Kinnear as the good guy just fighting life crapping on him.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (2DOZq)

210 If it is so hard to get child actors right in the movies, how does TV do it? Malcolm in the Middle and the Wonder Years come to mind. Particularly the former. Week after week all three kids put in a performance.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (yQpMk)

211 Possibly grew up to be the Max in Mad Max: Fury Road.

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Holy crap. That's a fun idea.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (Vd6qv)

212 So, no comments on the Alyssa Milano black face?


https://tinyurl.com/y89r8z4m

Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 08:44 PM (TPKib)

213 174 Greetings:

Not to contradict your thesis, but I usually find the performances of children in Korean movies (and there's usually at least one) pretty entertaining.
Posted by: 11B40 at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM (evgyj)

This reminds me.

No child actors here, but the 70th anniversary of the start of the Korean War has quietly passed, and it is the subject of one of my favorite war movies: Tae Guk Gi. A Korean movie from I believe 2003. It is insanely good and if you don't mind subtitles, give it a spin sometime.

I showed it to a friend of mine 10 years ago when he was staying at my place as we were getting ready to hit the road for a concert. He whined and whined and whined about how he hated foreign films because he didn't like reading during the movie. Well, he started seeing the battle scenes and that shut him up real quick.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:44 PM (ejsiI)

214 Did I misread the child actor thing? Are little white girl actresses favored over little black girl actresses?

Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2020 08:44 PM (XhWtx)

215 They will rename it Ru Paul Airport.

I was kidding.
But, it could happen...

Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 08:44 PM (w7KSn)

216 Got talked about here a few weeks ago, I think.

The Florida Project:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwQ-NH1rRT4

Yes, watching the trailer, it's strikingly misleading. Everything looks sunny, and it's NOT A HAPPY STORY!!

Anyone who was fooled by the ending needs a lesson in moviemaking. It's not... yeesh.

Anyhoo, the little girl, Valeria Cotto... stunning performance.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 08:44 PM (hku12)

217 Week after week all three kids put in a performance.
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The Krelboynes!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:44 PM (Dc2NZ)

218 So what about movies that involve kids in groups (e.g, Super 8, Summer of '84) or TV shows (e.g., Stranger Things). Better for a director? Worse? Why?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 27, 2020 08:45 PM (H5knJ)

219 210 If it is so hard to get child actors right in the movies, how does TV do it? Malcolm in the Middle and the Wonder Years come to mind. Particularly the former. Week after week all three kids put in a performance.
Posted by: Grump928 at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (yQpMk)

Aaaargh! The Wonder Years. Hated that show.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:45 PM (ejsiI)

220 198 I thought the feral boy in Mad Max did a good job.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at June 27, 2020 08:42 PM (Vd6qv)

Emil Minty

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 27, 2020 08:45 PM (DjiZK)

221 Watched '1917', thought 'Apocalypse Now' on a budget.

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 08:45 PM (dQF3z)

222 213 No child actors here, but the 70th anniversary of the start of the Korean War has quietly passed, and it is the subject of one of my favorite war movies: Tae Guk Gi. A Korean movie from I believe 2003. It is insanely good and if you don't mind subtitles, give it a spin sometime.

I showed it to a friend of mine 10 years ago when he was staying at my place as we were getting ready to hit the road for a concert. He whined and whined and whined about how he hated foreign films because he didn't like reading during the movie. Well, he started seeing the battle scenes and that shut him up real quick.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:44 PM (ejsiI)

==========

That was the very first movie I ever got from Netflix DVD way back in the beginning of 2006. I gave it 5 stars, though I remember little of it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:45 PM (LvTSG)

223 I'll just say because tok much beer that Duvall and Hackman are the best American actors: character or lead.

I'd say fight me but who's kidding I'm a mess rn.

Still

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 08:45 PM (uUAw3)

224 *parachutes into thread*


(yes, I hig ctrl+F "eris" so I've read everything worthwhile)

Two nominees:

Natalie Portman in Beautiful Girls and of course The Professional. Girl forgot how to act when she hit puberty.

Little girl in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. It will be interesting to see if she thrives or if she Portmans.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 27, 2020 08:46 PM (gd9RK)

225 The Krelboynes!


Ha! The wheezy black kid in the wheel chair always cracked me up.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 27, 2020 08:46 PM (yQpMk)

226 Honestly, that kid wasn't bad.

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Yeah, I was being serious. He was having to portray an interesting character and iirc didn't have any dialog. Just grunts and laughing and facial expressions.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at June 27, 2020 08:46 PM (Vd6qv)

227 Sofia Coppola did a cracker jack job in Godfather 1

LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:46 PM (85Gof)

228 >>>Yeah, I was being serious. He was having to portray an interesting character and iirc didn't have any dialog. Just grunts and laughing and facial expressions.



And the boomerang scene. Epic.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 08:47 PM (VWp7G)

229 I want them to get burned by their own rules, of course!

But the whole notion of playing characters of other ethnicities is not "blackface". It's not a minstrel show.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:47 PM (Dc2NZ)

230 Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (Ojki1)

can dumb actors still play smart people? If not, I don't foresee a lot of new movies about smart people coming out.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 08:47 PM (hHxp2)

231 Macaulay Culkin has appeared a few times on Red Letter Media. The loser-vibe is middling, less than Rich, more than Mike.

What's funny is that this descent from Hollywood into a Milwaukee garage set is going from one ubiquitous medium to another. Almost everyone has at least heard of RLM, and most people like it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 27, 2020 08:48 PM (LxTcq)

232 Ostensibly "1917" had no edits.
Just one continuous stream.
Can anyone confirm?
If so, that would make a comparison to "Apocalypse Now" rather incredible, as that had thousands of edits.
Even 2 final versions.

Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 08:48 PM (w7KSn)

233 I don't really know what's going on but i think about Buckaroo Banzai almost every week.

And Apocalypto is the best US movie ever made.

And MANDY.

WTF?

I mean wtf?

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 08:48 PM (uUAw3)

234 I read the book version of Paper Moon and loved it. Naturally I hated the movie. Neither Ryan nor Tatum O'Neal were close to how I imagined the characters would be.

Posted by: Introverted Elephocentric Hypochondriac at June 27, 2020 08:48 PM (rw/ga)

235 Ostensibly "1917" had no edits.
Just one continuous stream.



It has a few cuts. Just well done.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 27, 2020 08:48 PM (yQpMk)

236 175

Stephen Root was very good in No Country for Old Men, even in a few short scenes.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 08:37 PM

It's amazing how he can pull off both serious characters and wacky characters.

From Nathaniel Sackett in "Turn: Washington's Spies" series to Gordon in "Dodgeball" to Milton in "Office Space".

Heck, looking over his Filmography now, I didn't even realize he was in "Path to 9/11" (Richard Clarke).

And all the voice parts he's done. Wow.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:49 PM (Do5/p)

237 So, no comments on the Alyssa Milano black face?


https://tinyurl.com/y89r8z4m
Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 08:44 PM (TPKib)


She looked more like Tan Mom if you know who that is.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:49 PM (2DOZq)

238 1917-From WikipFilming was accomplished with long takes and elaborately choreographed moving camera shots to give the effect of two continuous takes

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 08:49 PM (dQF3z)

239 https://collider.com/1917-movie-editing- explained-lee-smith-interview/

Posted by: Grump928© at June 27, 2020 08:49 PM (yQpMk)

240 Actual aliens should play aliens.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 27, 2020 08:42 PM (aKsyK)


I see, I see...Actual zombies should play zombies. Very easy.

Posted by: runner at June 27, 2020 08:49 PM (zr5Kq)

241 atilla, 1917 contains edits. They're just camouflaged.

Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:50 PM (L2ZTs)

242 I think the DUNE movie is fantastic.

And Miami Heat.

Idk maybe Fred Ward is elite?

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 08:50 PM (uUAw3)

243 230

can dumb actors still play smart people? If not, I don't foresee a lot of new movies about smart people coming out.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 08:47 PM

Matt Damon has made a career of that.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:50 PM (Do5/p)

244 I want them to get burned by their own rules, of course!

But the whole notion of playing characters of other ethnicities is not "blackface". It's not a minstrel show.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:47 PM (Dc2NZ)

That is my only motivation in it. Alynski #4.

Beyond that it is called "acting" for a reason

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 08:50 PM (Ojki1)

245 232 Ostensibly "1917" had no edits.
Just one continuous stream.
Can anyone confirm?
If so, that would make a comparison to "Apocalypse Now" rather incredible, as that had thousands of edits.
Even 2 final versions.
Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 08:48 PM (w7KSn)

===========

It's two shots, separated by a black out of the main character.

But the comparison to Apocalypse Now is still apt. 1917 is more than just its technique.

There are similar descents into hellishness.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:50 PM (LvTSG)

246 Linda Blair did some good work in The Exorcist, but the ending tableau of the ritual, where Karris has just gone out the window and Kinderman stands there baffled, is heartbreaking. Regan is huddled in the corner bawling for her mother while Chris desperately wants to approach but still fears the vicious monster that her daughter has been for months. Both actresses are astounding in this very brief bit. It's completely wrenching every time I see it. I don't want to think how asshole Friedkin got that scene out of Blair.

Posted by: Citizen at June 27, 2020 08:50 PM (ldmQR)

247 Korean War movies

Bridges at Toko-Ri
Battle Circus

June 27 1950.

F-82G Twin Mustangs of the 68th F(AW)S and 339th F(AW)S tangle with five North Korean aircraft. At the end of the melee, Lt. 'Skeeter' Hudson of the 68th is credited with the first air combat victory of the Korean War when he shoots down a Yak-11. Two La-5s are also shot down during this skirmish.

Later in the day four F-80C Shooting Stars of the 35th FBS were flying cover on the C-54s evacuating Americans when they spotted seven Il-10s. Four of the Russian attack planes fell to the guns of three of the F-80Cs. No attacks were made by the surviving three Il-10s.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 08:50 PM (kibtE)

248 I finished up the last seasons of Voyager and now I
know why Mike Stoklasa is in the Slough of Despond over the execrable
"Picard". The character arcs of Seven of Nine and Icheb were great, and
that new series basically flushed it all down the crapper.



Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:38 PM (Dc2NZ)

Kurtzman Trek has killed Rich and Mike. It is sad to see.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 27, 2020 08:50 PM (J70i0)

249 Screw Schroeder. He made me tear up in the theater.

Wake up Champ! Wake up !
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:28 PM (2DOZq

Two movies where men are allowed to cry, and if they admit to crying watching them, there is zero shame in it:

1) Old Yeller
2) Brian's Song

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:51 PM (ejsiI)

250 241 atilla, 1917 contains edits. They're just camouflaged.
Posted by: qdpsteve at June 27, 2020 08:50 PM (L2ZTs)

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Sometimes with very expensive CGI including digital doubles.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:51 PM (LvTSG)

251 232 Ostensibly "1917" had no edits.
Just one continuous stream.
Can anyone confirm?
If so, that would make a comparison to "Apocalypse Now" rather incredible, as that had thousands of edits.
Even 2 final versions.
Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 08:48 PM (w7KSn)

Russian Ark is a movie shot in one take, on the shortest day of the year, in St. Petersburg. As good as the movie is, the director commentary is even better.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at June 27, 2020 08:51 PM (99Nt9)

252 And all the voice parts he's done. Wow.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:49 PM (Do5/p)


William Fontaine de La Tour "Bill" Dauterive.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 27, 2020 08:52 PM (PiwSw)

253 1917 - Apocalyptic Now, hmmmm

Never leave the boat

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 08:52 PM (6f16T)

254 I cry when Gus gets it in Lonesome Dove.

Spolier alert.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 08:52 PM (uUAw3)

255 Same film company, A24, as The Florida Project... the other movie of theirs that really stands out is The Witch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQXmlf3Sefg

Kid actors in that one are astonishing, but the lead character, the teenage daughter, pretty sure she was around 19 or so when she made it, so not really a kid.

The others though...

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 08:53 PM (hku12)

256 251
Russian Ark is a movie shot in one take, on the shortest day of the year, in St. Petersburg. As good as the movie is, the director commentary is even better.
Posted by: Russkilitlover at June 27, 2020 08:51 PM (99Nt9)

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That movie is kind of fantastic.

My only real problem with it is that there are moments where the camera is moving the zoom is pushing back in or out and its dizzying.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:53 PM (LvTSG)

257 Two movies where men are allowed to cry, and if they admit to crying watching them, there is zero shame in it:

1) Old Yeller
2) Brian's Song
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:51 PM (ejsiI)

And "Soldier", I am told.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:53 PM (Dc2NZ)

258 >She looked more like Tan Mom if you know who that is.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation



I thought she was doing Snooki

Posted by: DB- just DB. at June 27, 2020 08:53 PM (iTXRQ)

259 1) Old Yeller
2) Brian's Song
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:51 PM (ejsiI)


3) The Princess Bride, when Inigo kills Count Rugen.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 27, 2020 08:53 PM (PiwSw)

260 Child actors. Some are excellent. 1968 Oliver. each and every urchin is perfect and acting is unbelievably professional.

Posted by: runner at June 27, 2020 08:53 PM (zr5Kq)

261
I'm gonna have to check out "kes".
You twisted my arm (thx).

Say James have you ever reviewed Brewster McCloud ?

(Oh ... I'm getting deja vu. Have I suggested this before)

Posted by: 20200627 at June 27, 2020 08:54 PM (0RhVK)

262 Korean War Movie

Steel Helmet

Best movie ever based on budget and time to make.

104k budget and made in ten days.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:54 PM (2DOZq)

263 I streamed "1917" one time, so I saw it once. Thought it was great.
"Apocalypse Now" I own DVDs of it, including both versions and Director's overdubs.
So, I've seen that dozens of times.

Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 08:54 PM (w7KSn)

264 Absolutely never ever leave the boat.

Tigers

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 08:54 PM (uUAw3)

265 Never leave the boat--Well, yeah...

Posted by: Quint-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 08:54 PM (dQF3z)

266 And the boomerang scene. Epic.

-

Which begs the question :
Can non-homicidal heterosexual actors portray rapey gay lunatic apocalyptic bikers, or is casting going to find the authentic person?

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at June 27, 2020 08:54 PM (Vd6qv)

267 That was the very first movie I ever got from Netflix DVD way back in the beginning of 2006. I gave it 5 stars, though I remember little of it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:45 PM (LvTSG)

I was in a bar in Korea early on in 2006. It was my favorite bar, and the owner was looking through channels to see what was best to leave on in the background. While channel surfing she passed up Tae Guk Gi and I requested she leave it on there because I simply loved the movie. She freaked out: "You saw this movie?" It was a huge hit in Korea.
I took that time to sell the thing hard core to the other Americans in the bar.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:55 PM (ejsiI)

268 So, no comments on the Alyssa Milano black face?

https://tinyurl.com/y89r8z4m
Posted by: An Observation

Not to mention that she played a witch on Charmed when Marianne Williamson was available.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 27, 2020 08:55 PM (+y/Ru)

269 And all the voice parts he's done. Wow.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:49 PM (Do5/p)

Don't forget he played Mr. James in NewsRadio for the entire run of the show.

They asked Root to give one word descriptions of his fellow cast members in a recent video. When they asked about Andy Dick, Root replied, "dick". And pretty much everyone says Root is a nice guy.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 08:55 PM (hHxp2)

270 Absolutely never ever leave the boat.


What about the mangoes?

Posted by: Grump928© at June 27, 2020 08:55 PM (yQpMk)

271 261
I'm gonna have to check out "kes".
You twisted my arm (thx).

Say James have you ever reviewed Brewster McCloud ?

(Oh ... I'm getting deja vu. Have I suggested this before)
Posted by: 20200627 at June 27, 2020 08:54 PM (0RhVK)

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Kes is great.

Brewster McCloud is one Altman I've missed. I'll try to check it out at some point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:55 PM (LvTSG)

272 172

You know, back when folks had a FUCKING SENSE OF HUMOR!

Posted by: Pug Mahon thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 08:36 PM

Is it good or bad that I read this in Nicholas Cage's voice?

Actually, I read it as Simon Helberg doing an impression of Nicholas Cage.

https://bit.ly/2YFvYY8

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 08:56 PM (Do5/p)

273 Never leave the boat--Well, yeah...


Posted by: Quint-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 08:54 PM (dQF3z)

is that considered to be a socking? At least say Quint2 or something.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 08:56 PM (hHxp2)

274 1) Old Yeller
2) Brian's Song
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:51 PM (ejsiI)


3) The Princess Bride, when Inigo kills Count Rugen.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 27, 2020 08:53 PM (PiwSw)

As I posted The Champ.

And I guess there is a theme to what gets to me because the end of The Green Berets also gets dust in my eyes.

Peterson ! Peterson! Where's Peterson

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:56 PM (2DOZq)

275 >Ostensibly "1917" had no edits.
Just one continuous stream.
Can anyone confirm?


there's a very obvious one where the movie moves from day to night

the character had been knocked unconscious, you see, and when he comes to...

Posted by: DB- just DB. at June 27, 2020 08:56 PM (iTXRQ)

276 267 That was the very first movie I ever got from Netflix DVD way back in the beginning of 2006. I gave it 5 stars, though I remember little of it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:45 PM (LvTSG)

I was in a bar in Korea early on in 2006. It was my favorite bar, and the owner was looking through channels to see what was best to leave on in the background. While channel surfing she passed up Tae Guk Gi and I requested she leave it on there because I simply loved the movie. She freaked out: "You saw this movie?" It was a huge hit in Korea.
I took that time to sell the thing hard core to the other Americans in the bar.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:55 PM (ejsiI)

============

I watched it because Harry Knowles at Ain't It Cool News was going on and on about it when I started up my Netflix subscription.

Worth it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:57 PM (LvTSG)

277 Not sure the acting is all that great, but for whatever reason the performance Chloe Grace Moretz gives for Kick Ass is incredible. Not really acting, I think. Maybe it's just the role. Whatever the case, there aren't that many like it out there.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 08:57 PM (hku12)

278 Princess Bride irritates me

As does Ferris Bueller

Except the vice principal incharge ofe detention who makes the heavy metal hand sign.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 08:57 PM (uUAw3)

279 Quint the original,
Sorry, left part of my name so it might be clear

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 08:58 PM (dQF3z)

280 Hit Girl in the first Kick-Ass.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 08:58 PM (l3+k2)

281 Kes is brilliant

Here is soccer Kes

https://youtu.be/_9nDHupVqVw

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 08:58 PM (uUAw3)

282 But the comparison to Apocalypse Now is still apt. 1917 is more than just its technique.

There are similar descents into hellishness.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower

Like a safari into the south side of Chicago.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 27, 2020 08:59 PM (+y/Ru)

283 Quint the original,
Sorry, left part of my name so it might be clear


Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 08:58 PM (dQF3z)

good point though. He tried like hell not to lol.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 08:59 PM (hHxp2)

284

I was watching a Hodge Twins video where they go after Don Lemon for saying that Barry is more successful than Trump. Trump's father helped him out whereas Barry did it all on his own. They said, A parent is suppose to help their child not cum and run like Barry's dad did.


Le Mon also said that Big Mike is more attractive than Melania. They said what does it say that a gay man finds Michelle more attractive and "don't get me wrong but if I was on an island with Michelle I'd bang the shit out of her. I'd even give her a reach around." I was dying over that one

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2020 08:59 PM (CTvKH)

285 And to this day George Takei will tell you how delays in shooting The Green Berets cost him some choice roles on Star Trek that they had to rewrite to fit Pavel Chekov.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 08:59 PM (kibtE)

286 Not sure the acting is all that great, but for whatever reason the performance Chloe Grace Moretz gives for Kick Ass is incredible. Not really acting, I think. Maybe it's just the role. Whatever the case, there aren't that many like it out there.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 08:57 PM (hku12)

I thought it was a great acting job.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:59 PM (2DOZq)

287 Chloe Grace Moretz gives for Kick Ass is incredible.


She was great in that, and then awkward as a teen in II, then interesting as an adult in The Equalizer.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 27, 2020 08:59 PM (yQpMk)

288
But the comparison to Apocalypse Now is still apt. 1917 is more than just its technique.



There are similar descents into hellishness.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower



Like a safari into the south side of Chicago.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 27, 2020 08:59 PM (+y/Ru)

now i really have to see it.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 09:00 PM (hHxp2)

289 281 Kes is brilliant

Here is soccer Kes

https://youtu.be/_9nDHupVqVw
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 08:58 PM (uUAw3)

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That soccer coach is one of those petty tyrants. He's so great in his awfulness.

He has to dominate in his meaningless soccer match, decked out in his club gear, and he takes out his frustration on Billy just because he can. He's such an asshole.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:00 PM (LvTSG)

290 263 I streamed "1917" one time, so I saw it once. Thought it was great.
"Apocalypse Now" I own DVDs of it, including both versions and Director's overdubs.
So, I've seen that dozens of times.
Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 08:54 PM (w7KSn)

Aren't there 4 cuts of the film?

Theatrical,
ReDux,
First Cut
Final Cut

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 09:00 PM (Ojki1)

291 Soccer coach Kes is my hero.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:00 PM (uUAw3)

292 Abed goes full Nic Cage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1XCUo_Uu8M

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 09:01 PM (Dc2NZ)

293 I'm not usually on the movie thread. Do episodic TV series count as long movies? Or do we have to wait for a TV shows post?

Posted by: mindful webworker's cell sux at June 27, 2020 09:01 PM (0BFUD)

294 257

Two movies where men are allowed to cry, and if they admit to crying watching them, there is zero shame in it:

1) Old Yeller
2) Brian's Song

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 27, 2020 08:51 PM

And "Soldier", I am told.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 08:53 PM

I think the first movie where I had to hide tears in the movie theater was "Ladder 49" with Joaquin Phoenix.

I always shed tears of joy after watching "Miracle".

Seeing the utter joy and unapologetic patriotism from everyone after they beat the Soviets... just gets me.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 09:01 PM (Do5/p)

295 How to direct kids? SCTV showed us how, in their rip-off series "Different Folks", where Larry Seigel yells and insults the child actor until he's done half a dozen takes, and "OK, one of those will work!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAhW5-A_ziA

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at June 27, 2020 09:01 PM (sWee1)

296 I actually liked it because it all came together towards the end in a positive way and I also thought they were showing Kinnear as the good guy just fighting life crapping on him.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:43 PM (2DOZq)

I liked it, too. I loved Alan Arkin as the grandpa.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 27, 2020 09:01 PM (qrX0b)

297 Carrie Henn was Newt in the movie Aliens. Saw the director's cut the other night. Around 3 hours.

IIRC, that was the only part she ever played and went on to become a teacher or something like that.

Her brother was also in that movie, playing her brother. But that scene wound up on the cutting room floor and his name wasn't in the theatrical release. Scene was their father being the first colonist on LV432 to find the alien spaceship and get "infected."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 27, 2020 09:01 PM (HaL55)

298 Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 08:57 PM (hku12)

I thought it was a great acting job.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 08:59 PM (2DOZq)

287 Chloe Grace Moretz gives for Kick Ass is incredible.


She was great in that, and then awkward as a teen in II, then interesting as an adult in The Equalizer.
Posted by: Grump928 at June 27, 2020 08:59 PM (yQpMk)


That's my question though, is it really acting? I mean, I guess it is, but she's a... what, 10 year old girl murdering people?

It's just so disconcerting. I'm not sure her acting had a much to do with it. Stuff I've seen her in since, she's just meh as a performer. And they're trying to sell her as a sex symbol, and I don't really see it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 09:01 PM (hku12)

299 "I had trouble telling the difference between Gary Busey and Nick Nolte for a very long time."

Prolly got easier after the motorcycle accident...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at June 27, 2020 09:02 PM (z5SFZ)

300 Linda Blair

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 27, 2020 09:02 PM (EZebt)

301 Greetings:

Korean War ... Pork Chop Hill

Posted by: 11B40 at June 27, 2020 09:02 PM (evgyj)

302 Ad Astra. Contrary to 99.9% of the Horde (apparently), I actually like it quite a bit.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 27, 2020 09:02 PM (H5knJ)

303
The best child actor in ages is Freddy Highmore.

His work in Neverland and a Good year was incredible.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 09:02 PM (remPZ)

304 I thought amy carter was pretty good in "Idiot in the White House"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 09:02 PM (85Gof)

305 How young do you have to be to be considered a child actor? Under 15?

Posted by: Grump928© at June 27, 2020 09:02 PM (yQpMk)

306 I watched it because Harry Knowles at Ain't It Cool News was going on and on about it when I started up my Netflix subscription.

Worth it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 08:57 PM (LvTSG)

I miss the Tartan label. There were some amazing releases under that.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 09:02 PM (Ojki1)

307 Probably Blu-Ray DVD could have all 4 versions, but mine are pre Blue-Ray so I only have the 2.

Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 09:03 PM (w7KSn)

308 I thought amy carter was pretty good in "Idiot in the White House"

Posted by: Nevergiveup--
One of those just playing herself.

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 09:03 PM (dQF3z)

309 Fifteen year old Nastassja Kinski in To the Devil a Daughter.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 27, 2020 09:03 PM (gd9RK)

310 Quint the original,
Sorry, left part of my name so it might be clear




Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 08:58 PM (dQF3z)

Well I don't own the character. Everyone here loves Jaws and probably Quint most. I didn't put the comment together at that moment. No worries my man.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 09:03 PM (hHxp2)

311 293 I'm not usually on the movie thread. Do episodic TV series count as long movies? Or do we have to wait for a TV shows post?
Posted by: mindful webworker's cell sux at June 27, 2020 09:01 PM (0BFUD)

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Talk about what you want, but I'm just not a big TV guy.

A guy at work one day told me to check out Black Sails once, but, he said, I had to muddle through the entire first season before it got good.

"I have to sit through 10 hours of bad television before it gets good? I'll pass. I'll just watch 5 movies instead."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:03 PM (LvTSG)

312 The James Madison, my review of Kick Ass

https://annapuna.blogspot.com/2010/04/kick-ass-review-from-front.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 09:03 PM (kibtE)

313 In a 36 year long career working with children I can say that kids are by and large more honest (sometimes brutally so) than adults.

Maybe that is why they aren't very good as actors.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 27, 2020 09:03 PM (Fc5rx)

314 Nolte had a motorcycle accident?

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 27, 2020 09:04 PM (nFRLh)

315 M.A.S.H movie theme song and opening credits is unsurpassed.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:04 PM (uUAw3)

316 Anyone here familiar with Sbowpiercer-the movie or the series?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 27, 2020 09:04 PM (Uu+Jp)

317 "Kids Say the Darndest Things"
Art Linkletter

Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 09:04 PM (w7KSn)

318 That little Amish kid in "Witness" had a bit part in "Lincoln"

Posted by: DB- just DB. at June 27, 2020 09:04 PM (iTXRQ)

319 302 Ad Astra. Contrary to 99.9% of the Horde (apparently), I actually like it quite a bit.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 27, 2020 09:02 PM (H5knJ)

===========

I watched it. I have a review coming up at some point in the next week or so. I liked it too. It's not great. I felt like it needed to be a good bit longer, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:05 PM (LvTSG)

320 Abed goes full Nic Cage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1XCUo_Uu8M
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf

Again I miss Community. You can see some of Abed's character's fantasy world in Rick and Morty.
I assume that's from Dan Harmon.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:05 PM (2DOZq)

321 Anyone here familiar with Snowpiercer-the movie or the series?
--
Movie - kinda stoopid to me. Not gonna watch the series.

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 09:05 PM (dQF3z)

322 Anyone here familiar with Sbowpiercer-the movie or the series?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 27, 2020 09:04 PM (Uu+Jp)


Started watching the movie. Got about 1/3 left. Why ?

Posted by: runner at June 27, 2020 09:05 PM (zr5Kq)

323 Snowpiercer

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 27, 2020 09:06 PM (Uu+Jp)

324 307 Probably Blu-Ray DVD could have all 4 versions, but mine are pre Blue-Ray so I only have the 2.
Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 09:03 PM (w7KSn)

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The recently released UHD 4K has all 3 versions, and they're gorgeous to look at.

I've still only seen the original theatrical cut.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:06 PM (LvTSG)

325 Kes is very good but I don't think I could watch it again.

Probably related to that, after I had kids (and we had them late), I found myself becoming extremely sentimental. Ever see Frozen? We watched it at home with our two children. That first scene where the little sister is standing outside the locked door singing the song and asking the big sister to come out and play with her? I had to leave the damn room. That scene is sad as hell.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Acting crab bucket is worse than acting white at June 27, 2020 09:06 PM (i9Quk)

326 Snowpiercer has Jennifer Connelly so I would watch if it was on.

Other than that it has to do with trains that never stop.

I like trains.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:06 PM (uUAw3)

327 Oooh, footy talk.

How about the embarrassing Keira Knightly in Bend it Like Beckham.

Laughably bad...

Posted by: browndog at June 27, 2020 09:06 PM (BgMrQ)

328 That's my question though, is it really acting? I
mean, I guess it is, but she's a... what, 10 year old girl murdering
people?



It's just so disconcerting. I'm not sure her acting had a much to
do with it. Stuff I've seen her in since, she's just meh as a
performer. And they're trying to sell her as a sex symbol, and I don't
really see it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 09:01 PM (hku12)


In the director's commentary he says her murdering and the other violence involving her was the reason the film had to be made in Canada.

Hollywood wouldn't touch it.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 09:06 PM (l3+k2)

329 293 I'd say as most of us get our movies on tv, and most actors and actresses switch hit between movies and tv shows and made for movies, why not?

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 09:06 PM (6f16T)

330 I just started watching the series. I'm undecided.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 27, 2020 09:06 PM (Uu+Jp)

331 Berets cost him some choice roles on Star Trek that they had to rewrite to fit Pavel Chekov.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 08:59 PM (kibtE)

I always wanted a Russian character! (Cause Russian is a race?/)

And it had nothing to do with trying to copy Davy Jones from The Monkees.

Also Capitalism is bad. Now buy the IDIC pin I just created to sell.

Posted by: Roddenburry at June 27, 2020 09:07 PM (Ojki1)

332 312 The James Madison, my review of Kick Ass

https://annapuna.blogspot.com/2010/04/
kick-ass-review-from-front.html
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 09:03 PM (kibtE)

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Yeah, I really like Kick Ass as well. I really like Matthew Vaughn as an action director.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:07 PM (LvTSG)

333
That little Amish kid in "Witness" had a bit part in "Lincoln"

Posted by: DB- just DB. at June 27, 2020 09:04 PM (iTXRQ)

That kid was good. But they probably used one of the techniques TJM mentioned. Certainly he was not at the height of his acting powers at that time.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 09:07 PM (hHxp2)

334 As to the whole "authenticity" thing, I was under the belief that the performers were "acting", to wit: pretending to be whom they were not. Isn't that the point of the excercise?

And how about casting black actors in roles that were historically white, like Sam Jackson portraying Nick Fury? I presume that's fine, because SHUT UP, but what the fuck, over?

Posted by: eastofsuez at June 27, 2020 09:08 PM (U2zca)

335 Didn't MGM have most of their child actors under contracts?

You know like Elizabeth Taylor, Judy Garland, Deanna Durbin and others.

Posted by: dantesed at June 27, 2020 09:08 PM (88xKn)

336 278

Except the vice principal incharge ofe detention who makes the heavy metal hand sign.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 08:57 PM

I am in the process of rewatching the entire "LOST" series.

Just finished S1Ep4 the other day. In it, the black Michael Dawson character, played by Harold Perrineau, is asking the Sun-Hwa Kwon character, played by Yunjin Kim, if she will watch his son as he goes on a hike into the island.

At the end of the conversation and hand gestures, he asks her if she is good with everything he's just said. And he puts up the "Okay" hand sign, asking if she's ok with everything. The one that is now said to be a "white power" sign. I chuckled when I saw that. Apparently that was not a "white power" sign back in 2004.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 09:08 PM (Do5/p)

337 TV is meh but Justified (his ex wife whew and dewey crow LOL) and the Wire and Rockford Files are the tits.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:08 PM (uUAw3)

338 Both those kids in that vampire flick -Let her in or something - the foreign version, were pretty good. Good overall flick too.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 27, 2020 09:08 PM (nFRLh)

339 I saw "Redux" at an IMAX theater.
Remember those?

Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 09:08 PM (w7KSn)

340 The kid actors in 'Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory' (the Gene Wilder film) were pretty good, in my opinion. Charlie was a sweet, innocent boy, yet likable and believable - not too good to be true. The bratty kids were delightfully awful. Red Letter Media did a recent review of the movie, with some comparison to the terrible Tim Burton remake, which I've never seen and probably never will see.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at June 27, 2020 09:09 PM (sWee1)

341 " Little Miss Sunshine". Absolutely hideous. But it was critically acclaimed.
Posted by: Mookie
Agree. Fetishizing your niece, daughter, whatever that little girl was, to the older people in the movie, I forget. How far is it from child porn to have a little girl do a strip tease dance? Hated the movie. And doubly bad because, like you say, the press loved it-so I had high expectations.

Posted by: MikeM at June 27, 2020 09:09 PM (lqHqy)

342 339 I saw "Redux" at an IMAX theater.
Remember those?
Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 09:08 PM (w7KSn)

==========

The only thing I ever saw in an IMAX theater was The Matrix Reloaded.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:09 PM (LvTSG)

343 like Sam Jackson portraying Nick Fury? I presume that's fine, because SHUT UP, but what the fuck, over?--
I understand after I stopped reading the comics, that they made Fury black.Wouldn't do that to Sargent Rock.

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 09:09 PM (dQF3z)

344 Both those kids in that vampire flick -Let her in or something - the foreign version, were pretty good. Good overall flick too.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 27, 2020 09:08 PM (nFRLh)

That was the Kick Ass girl .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:09 PM (2DOZq)

345 I cannot stand the kid with no teeth and the "Jew-Fro." (40-Year Old Virgin Reference)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 08:34 PM (VWp7G)

Yeah, he's annoying. The kid who was in a coma the whole first season turned out to be a surprisingly good actor in the second season, though.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 27, 2020 09:10 PM (qrX0b)

346 She looked more like Tan Mom if you know who that is.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation







I thought she was doing Snooki


She just needs to be hammered mercilessly, the way any conservative gets hammered on Twitter - when ever they say anything reasonable.
For example:

They could have played the scene with an actual black female, instead of miss "I like doing blackface", taking her job away.
(Tweet above at will)

Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 09:10 PM (TPKib)

347 Diane Lane was a child actor in a movie called A Little Romance with Laurence Olivier. It's wonderful if you haven't seen it.

I think she's been overlooked and underrated. She's made some bad movies granted but I never pass up a Diane Lane movie. I remember years ago someone asked her a politcal question. I can't remember the exact answer but she handled it with finesse. I do know she's a dem.. more's the pity. I may be the only one who thinks her performance in Unfaithful was excellent.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 27, 2020 09:10 PM (dUJdY)

348 340 Red Letter Media did a recent review of the movie, with some comparison to the terrible Tim Burton remake, which I've never seen and probably never will see.
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at June 27, 2020 09:09 PM (sWee1)

============

I'm gonna go through all of Burton's movies at some point, though I do remember liking Charlie and the Chocolate Factory from the couple of times I saw it long ago.

But then again, I liked Star Trek Into Darkness when it first came out and was shocked to discover how bad it was when I revisited it for a review.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:10 PM (LvTSG)

349 Well, TheJamesMadison, I await your review with trepidation. I think the comments thread will consist of us taking a merciless beating.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 27, 2020 09:10 PM (H5knJ)

350 Greetings:

Korean War Book ... T.R. Fehrenbach's "This Kind of War"

Posted by: 11B40 at June 27, 2020 09:11 PM (evgyj)

351 Let The Right One In

Or how a child vampire can ruin your life.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 09:11 PM (kibtE)

352 When I hear "Kes" I think Voyager.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 27, 2020 09:11 PM (aKsyK)

353 314 Busey

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at June 27, 2020 09:11 PM (z5SFZ)

354 In the director's commentary he says her murdering and the other violence involving her was the reason the film had to be made in Canada.

Hollywood wouldn't touch it.
Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 09:06 PM (l3+k2)


Understandable.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 09:11 PM (hku12)

355
The recently released UHD 4K has all 3 versions, and they're gorgeous to look at.

I've still only seen the original theatrical cut.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:06 PM (LvTSG)

It looks amazing in 4K. And I really liked the Final Cut, but it's been so long since I watched the original cut (can't remember if I watched Redux or not) that I couldn't compare the two.

(Got to see the original cut on the big screen in the late 90s at a classic run theater. Some movies do deserve the big screen treatment, on it is one)

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 09:11 PM (Ojki1)

356 I watched firdt season of Lost don't remember a thing. Azn dude seemed cool.

Homicide Life on the Streets and the Shield were first series I was like whoah whoah

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:12 PM (uUAw3)

357 >>>From Nathaniel Sackett in "Turn: Washington's Spies" series to Gordon in "Dodgeball" to Milton in "Office Space".



Extremely versatile to say the least.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:12 PM (VWp7G)

358 TJM. Many modern-day child actors seem to have got their start in TV commercials. And some commercials are so damn good in an of themselves, it'd be interesting to rank the top 10 or 20 or so.

A few grow into their own long term "campaigns", such as the GEICO cavemen, and others we get kinda tired of the schtick, (Flo/Progressive *yawn*)

Others, resonate for decades. One favorite of mine is the old Super Bowl ad: "Herding Cats".

https://tinyurl.com/y8osfafs

Maybe fodder for a future thread, sometime?



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 27, 2020 09:12 PM (QzJWU)

359 349 Well, TheJamesMadison, I await your review with trepidation. I think the comments thread will consist of us taking a merciless beating.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 27, 2020 09:10 PM (H5knJ)

===========

It'll show up on my blog. I'll get a couple of polite comments over there and then it'll be forgotten.

I kind of wish people would be more combative on my blog. I'm not opposed to opposing viewpoints at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:12 PM (LvTSG)

360 Aquaman...is it as bad as The Shape of Water? What a waste that was, but perfectly in tune w/ the narrative: No good men, unless their gay (or an Aquaman); corrupt patriarchal systems; evil and corrupt leaders; gentle and persecuted gays, even a basically good communist.

Posted by: Estoy Listo at June 27, 2020 09:12 PM (vLJM8)

361 Korean War Book ... T.R. Fehrenbach's "This Kind of War"

Classic. Gut wrenching. Basically here's how understandable every kind of mistake we made was.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 27, 2020 09:12 PM (gd9RK)

362 When I hear "Kes" I think Voyager.

Me too. She was a cutie-pie at the time.

Alas, no longer from what I've heard.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 27, 2020 09:13 PM (HaL55)

363 Let The Right One In

Or how a child vampire can ruin your life.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 09:11 PM (kibtE)

Great film. The American version, with the aforementioned Chloe Grace Moretz ain't bad either.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 09:13 PM (hku12)

364 Diane Lane in Streets of Fire, yes! And Willem Dafoe in weird leather overalls.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 27, 2020 09:13 PM (nFRLh)

365 292

Abed goes full Nic Cage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1XCUo_Uu8M

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 27, 2020 09:01

You're so sexy. You smell so delicious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMtD519hdVY

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 09:14 PM (Do5/p)

366 Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 08:50 PM (kibtE)

Bravo Anna!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -YOU are all in this together!- at June 27, 2020 09:14 PM (eTZoJ)

367 I recently picked up I, Tonya on disc at WalMart for $3.47, Great Movie.

Robbie's acting impresses me more and more in every new thing I see her in.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 09:14 PM (l3+k2)

368 That was the Kick Ass girl .

Let the Right One In.
I thought the cats in that movie were also awesome.

Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 09:14 PM (TPKib)

369 >>>Homicide Life on the Streets and the Shield were first series I was like whoah whoah



If you liked them, you'd love The Wire. Arguably the most accurate police series I have ever seen.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:14 PM (VWp7G)

370 360 Aquaman...is it as bad as The Shape of Water? What a waste that was, but perfectly in tune w/ the narrative: No good men, unless their gay (or an Aquaman); corrupt patriarchal systems; evil and corrupt leaders; gentle and persecuted gays, even a basically good communist.
Posted by: Estoy Listo at June 27, 2020 09:12 PM (vLJM

============

I was really surprised at how little I liked The Shape of Water because of how much I like del Toro in general.

It was just a sinking feeling that didn't stop until the movie was over.

The literal fascist in Pan's Labyrinth was more sympathetic than Michael Shannon's all American man in The Shape of Water.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:14 PM (LvTSG)

371 I fell in LOVE with Dianne Lane in Streets of Fire.

That movie is dumb though

Even though it has the creepy dude who is good.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:15 PM (uUAw3)

372 Homicide Life on the Streets and the Shield were first series I was like whoah whoah
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:12 PM (uUAw3)

HLotS, I'm surprised it doesn't get more airplay in syndication.

I loved that show.

Posted by: browndog at June 27, 2020 09:15 PM (BgMrQ)

373
Except the vice principal incharge ofe detention who makes the heavy metal hand sign.



Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 08:57 PM



I am in the process of rewatching the entire "LOST" series.



Just finished S1Ep4 the other day. In it, the black Michael Dawson
character, played by Harold Perrineau, is asking the Sun-Hwa Kwon
character, played by Yunjin Kim, if she will watch his son as he goes on
a hike into the island.



At the end of the conversation and hand gestures, he asks her if she
is good with everything he's just said. And he puts up the "Okay" hand
sign, asking if she's ok with everything. The one that is now said to
be a "white power" sign. I chuckled when I saw that. Apparently that
was not a "white power" sign back in 2004.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 09:08 PM (Do5/p)

It never was until know and still has no meaning to anyone who is not on the net all the time. Whoever started that, that was likely the joke. Choose the most common gesture and make it toxic. KInd of like how he left decided for a while that any conservative with a raised arm was making a Nazi salute. Really you can't embarrass the 2010s or whatever they are called, they are incapable or being embarrassed or lampooned.

As for Lost, I will chat about the show any time. I have seen it through at least twice and have also watched the many reactions on YT. It is not a perfect show but a really good one. It ran down rabbit holes many times but it was always interesting. What stands out to me is how most of the cast were no names when it came out and now most of them are very successful in other series.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 09:15 PM (hHxp2)

374 351 Let The Right One In

Or how a child vampire can ruin your life.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2020 09:11 PM (kibtE)

Child in appearance only...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:15 PM (NWiLs)

375 >>>I fell in LOVE with Dianne Lane in Streets of Fire.


Scorching hot. Still very attractive.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:15 PM (VWp7G)

376 303

The best child actor in ages is Freddy Highmore.

His work in Neverland and a Good year was incredible.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 09:02 PM

And The Spiderwick Chronicles

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 09:15 PM (Do5/p)

377 TCM did a kid actor round table years ago with Jane Withers, Margaret O'Brien, the other Hickman brother and someone else I forget.

Apparently, Margaret O'Brien was quite sheltered. Natalie Wood convinced her to sneak out one time and got her a blind date with...

Dennis Hopper.

Good job, Nat.

Posted by: Sal at June 27, 2020 09:16 PM (bo8pf)

378 363 Great film. The American version, with the aforementioned Chloe Grace Moretz ain't bad either.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 09:13 PM (hku12)

===========

The American version is directed by Matt Reeves, and his only previous credit was Cloverfield, which I thought was kind of interesting but ultimately boring.

And then he made the two Planet of the Apes sequels (Dawn and War) which are both awesome.

And now he's going to make the next Batman movie.

I like him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:16 PM (LvTSG)

379 Harley Quinn in BMTAS was voiced by Tara Strong.

Strong has had an amazing voice acting career and IMHO has the pretty but disincentive looking thing going for her.

She has done some roles on screen too but not nearly as much always wondered why she did not get more face time.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at June 27, 2020 09:16 PM (eMtQa)

380 The best child actor in ages is Freddy Highmore.

His work in Neverland and a Good year was incredible.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2020 09:02 PM

And The Spiderwick Chronicles
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 09:15 PM (Do5/p)

Then starred in Bates Motel as Norman. Did creepy and volatile quite well, although the series sucked.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:17 PM (NWiLs)

381 That was the Kick Ass girl .

Let the Right One In. I thought the cats in that movie were also awesome.
Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 09:14 PM (TPKib)


The American version, with Moretz, is called Let Me In.

Still a good film, but not as good as the original Swedish version.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 09:17 PM (hku12)

382 As I get older, watching "Taken" and knowing what I know about Liam Neeson's politics, I kind of root for the Albanians and St Claire. They are filling a market niche and there apparently is an endless supply of dingbat Gen Z girls.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 27, 2020 09:17 PM (DY3v8)

383 369 >>>Homicide Life on the Streets and the Shield were first series I was like whoah whoah



If you liked them, you'd love The Wire. Arguably the most accurate police series I have ever seen.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:14 PM (VWp7G)

Yes dude YES!

When at the end of aeason one they ask McNulty where do you not want to get reassigned and he says the harbor patrol and they send him there lmao.

And Bunk and his partner just saying fuck again and again as they investigate the shooting scene!

Season 2 my favorite.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:17 PM (uUAw3)

384 My conspiratorial side suspects that the reason for canceling pre-Woke media is because movies and television prior to the year 2000 is chock full of reminders of the freedom and prosperity Americans used to enjoy.

Once socialism is fully implemented, the ruling class want there to be no reminders of how things used to be.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 09:17 PM (N30JC)

385 382 As I get older, watching "Taken" and knowing what I know about Liam Neeson's politics, I kind of root for the Albanians and St Claire. They are filling a market niche and there apparently is an endless supply of dingbat Gen Z girls.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 27, 2020 09:17 PM (DY3v

Kinda out of my price range though. Renting is way cheaper than purchasing.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:18 PM (NWiLs)

386 HJO was indeed great in Secondhand Lions. I haven't seen many well-made guy flix, but that's one of the best.

"You bought a used lion?"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 27, 2020 09:18 PM (HaL55)

387 And how about casting black actors in roles that were historically white, like Sam Jackson portraying Nick Fury? I presume that's fine, because SHUT UP, but what the fuck, over?
Posted by: eastofsuez at June 27, 2020 09:08 PM (U2zca)

The out there is that the Marvel Avengers movies are more based on The Ultimates line set in a new universe created to try to get new readers and not bog them down with (then) 40ish years of history and acquired history.

In that universe the creators based their look of Nick Fury off Sam Jackson, long before any Marvel Cinematic Universe was really dreamed of.

And pretty much every character there had some changes made to make them feel more modern and often "Extreme".

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 09:18 PM (Ojki1)

388 >>>Yes dude YES!

When at the end of aeason one they ask McNulty where do you not want to get reassigned and he says the harbor patrol and they send him there lmao.


That happens often in major police departments. Happened to a former partner of mine. The show is just spot on.

I like Season 2, as well. The Greek is amazing.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:18 PM (VWp7G)

389 Two child actor performaces that I liked were Natalie Portman in The Professional and Emma Watson in the first couple of Harry Potters. I have to say that I think they became worse actors as the got older though.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 27, 2020 09:19 PM (T9OdU)

390 Margot Robbie is not that pretty to me anymore. Kind of like my perception change of Cameron Diaz from the first time I saw her . ( The Mask)

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:19 PM (2DOZq)

391 Jodie Foster was 13 for "Taxi Driver". Heavy role. Did a good job, but I suspect "Iris" screwed up Jodie's whole life.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 09:19 PM (ja/kn)

392 375 >>>I fell in LOVE with Dianne Lane in Streets of Fire.


Scorching hot. Still very attractive.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:15 PM (VWp7G)

Still hawt in Lonesome Dove

Good genetics.

Banging.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:19 PM (uUAw3)

393 The kid who played a young George Bailey in IAWL kept acting thru the scene when he was being slapped by Mr Gower while his ear was really bleeding.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 27, 2020 09:20 PM (DY3v8)

394 I watched True Romance today. It struck me that for a guy who loves Hollywood and has an encyclopedic knowledge of the movies, Tarantino sure paints Hollywood in an unflattering light.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 27, 2020 09:20 PM (+y/Ru)

395 Thank you for the movie thread work you guys. I look forward to it every week.

1917: Also, I hated the German pilot scene. It felt gratuitously nasty towards the Germans.
Posted by: WOPR
Yes. Also, if it is a scorpion and the frog fable scenario, why were you not ready for that possibility?

Also first scene so not much of a spoiler. So...let me get this straight: You need me to do this super important mission, possibly saving the lives of thousands of troops and determining the result of the war, but you want it to be just me and my mate? Because he travels fastest that travels light? Ummm...

I could not get past this stupidity. Yeah, yeah, I know, it is war, and it is a movie, suspend disbelief- no this was stupid to me.

Again, I think my expectations were too high.

Posted by: MikeM at June 27, 2020 09:20 PM (lqHqy)

396 393 The kid who played a young George Bailey in IAWL kept acting thru the scene when he was being slapped by Mr Gower while his ear was really bleeding.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 27, 2020 09:20 PM (DY3v

Ouch. Method acting hurts!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:20 PM (NWiLs)

397 The kids that inhabit the Drama classes, those drawn to perform, in high school, both in my experience as a student then as a teacher, are typically And throw in the extroversion and look-at-me-everyone while the parents and staff shower them with praise regardless of the performance quality. No thanks, I'll take my shy introvert happy kid.

Posted by: Drake at June 27, 2020 09:20 PM (SEUam)

398 392 375 >>>I fell in LOVE with Dianne Lane in Streets of Fire.


Scorching hot. Still very attractive.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:15 PM (VWp7G)

Still hawt in Lonesome Dove

Good genetics.

Banging.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:19 PM (uUAw3)

Lori darlin'...

She was at her height of hotness in Lonesome Dove!

Posted by: browndog at June 27, 2020 09:21 PM (BgMrQ)

399 7500 on Amazon is a good watch.
Knuckle biter.
Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 27, 2020 08:33 PM (w7KSn)

Just finished watching it tonight
it's great
reminds me of, but is better than that skandi film I saw a year or so ago about an emergency call response operator

Posted by: vmom 2020 at June 27, 2020 09:21 PM (WwTwF)

400 I like the ooompaloompas in Burtons Chocolate Factory. They were child actors, right? Little orangeish dudes?

Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2020 09:21 PM (XhWtx)

401 They are cancelling stuff from five or more years ago. These people are the products of some sinister level of indoctrination. If I never hear the line "you could not make that today" even again, it will be too soon. OF course I will hear it and read it for as long as they allow older movies and tv shows to be shown.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 09:21 PM (hHxp2)

402 Because he travels fastest that travels light? Ummm...
--Semi spoiler--
And then meet up with another British unit

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 09:22 PM (dQF3z)

403 Great film. The American version, with the aforementioned Chloe Grace Moretz ain't bad either.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 09:13 PM (hku12)

===========

The American version is directed by Matt Reeves, and his only previous credit was Cloverfield, which I thought was kind of interesting but ultimately boring.

And then he made the two Planet of the Apes sequels (Dawn and War) which are both awesome.

And now he's going to make the next Batman movie.

I like him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:16 PM (LvTSG)


Hmmm, worth keeping an eye on the fella.

I really expected it to stink, as many Americanized films will.

Somewhat related, the American version of the Dragon Tattoo movie ain't bad either, but nowhere near the Swedish film.

Which stars.... everyone's favorite Alien remake actress.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 09:22 PM (hku12)

404 I like when McNulty gets drunk and shoots things under the overpass. I think we've all been there.

JUSTIFIED season 2 is better I know hard to believe but trutht.

There is a hitman who drives around in an RV and watches women's tennis.

And Dewey Crow.

And his ex Natalie Zea is WOW

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:22 PM (uUAw3)

405 I spotted Jodie Foster as an extra in an old Bonanza episode. She looked about 6 or 7, but it was obviously her.

Christmas episode with Jack Elam and some orphan kids.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 09:22 PM (l3+k2)

406 397 The kids that inhabit the Drama classes, those drawn to perform, in high school, both in my experience as a student then as a teacher, are typically And throw in the extroversion and look-at-me-everyone while the parents and staff shower them with praise regardless of the performance quality. No thanks, I'll take my shy introvert happy kid.
Posted by: Drake at June 27, 2020 09:20 PM (SEUam)

A lot of introverted kids get into acting to overcome shyness, or to let them escape their shyness by pretending to be someone else while they're on stage.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:22 PM (NWiLs)

407 Then starred in Bates Motel as Norman. Did creepy and volatile quite well, although the series sucked.

Holy shit yes! There was a scene in Bates where he's dressed as mother and does all of her mannerisms, etc. I rewatched it several times. He's an amazing actor.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 27, 2020 09:22 PM (dUJdY)

408 340

The kid actors in 'Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory' (the Gene Wilder film) were pretty good, in my opinion. Charlie was a sweet, innocent boy, yet likable and believable - not too good to be true. The bratty kids were delightfully awful. Red Letter Media did a recent review of the movie, with some comparison to the terrible Tim Burton remake, which I've never seen and probably never will see.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at June 27, 2020 09:09 PM

Yes, great example with Willy Wonka. I can watch that one over and over. And you're right that Charlie is likable and believable, especially when he and grandpa go on their own little breaking of the rules with the bubble drink. He's innocent, but not that innocent. Pretty much like any average boy.

And yes, the other brats were delightfully awful, but not gratingly awful like the brats in Tom Cruise's War of the Worlds.

I have not seen the remake either. As soon as I saw the previews where it looked like they turned Willy Wonka into a crazy person, I knew I would not be watching it.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 09:23 PM (Do5/p)

409
I like the ooompaloompas in Burtons Chocolate Factory.
--All one 60 year old man

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 09:23 PM (dQF3z)

410 Aquaman F that bitch that tried to destroy Johnny Depp's career. I can't watch it anymore

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at June 27, 2020 09:23 PM (dKiJG)

411 Deep Roy

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 27, 2020 09:23 PM (dQF3z)

412 She was at her height of hotness in Lonesome Dove!
Posted by: browndog at June 27, 2020 09:21 PM (BgMrQ)

I'm crying every time Gus gets shot i don't care we don't sell pigs.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:25 PM (uUAw3)

413 >>Both those kids in that vampire flick -Let her in or something - the foreign version, were pretty good. Good overall flick too.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 27, 2020 09:08 PM (nFRLh)

--

I also thought the Swedish version was much better.
(Good movie)

Chloe Grace Moretz is good in the American film.

She strikes me as a quality actress.

Course, now with all this praise (if the system is running) she will have some political statement come out soon.

Whatever, call me like I see em'

Posted by: 20200627 at June 27, 2020 09:25 PM (0RhVK)

414 400 I like the ooompaloompas in Burtons Chocolate Factory. They were child actors, right? Little orangeish dudes?
Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2020 09:21 PM (XhWtx)

No, they were orange in the Gene Wilder version. And I'm pretty sure they were midgets. The Burton version had a single middle-aged midget playing all the oompa loompas.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:25 PM (NWiLs)

415 407 Then starred in Bates Motel as Norman. Did creepy and volatile quite well, although the series sucked.

Holy shit yes! There was a scene in Bates where he's dressed as mother and does all of her mannerisms, etc. I rewatched it several times. He's an amazing actor.
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 27, 2020 09:22 PM (dUJdY)

Yep. Great actor, shitty series.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:26 PM (NWiLs)

416 Once socialism is fully implemented, the ruling class want there to be no reminders of how things used to be.

Nailed it.

Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 09:26 PM (TPKib)

417 >>>I watched True Romance today.



One of my favorite films. Slater is so fantastic in it, as is Gary Oldman. Just a great overall cast.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:27 PM (VWp7G)

418 And yes, the other brats were delightfully awful, but not gratingly awful like the brats in Tom Cruise's War of the Worlds.

That's my guilty pleasure flick.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at June 27, 2020 09:28 PM (99Nt9)

419 ZOD.

Posted by: Zod at June 27, 2020 09:28 PM (XzT/D)

420 No, they were orange in the Gene Wilder version. And I'm pretty sure they were midgets. The Burton version had a single middle-aged midget playing all the oompa loompas.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:25 PM (NWiLs)

Dude I've read those midges were out of control drinkers and animals who hit on Judt Garland 24/7.

I think we've all been there

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:28 PM (uUAw3)

421 Johnny Depp was at his best as Donnie Brasco. His weird characters are just weird. Since they are his own creation there is no good or bad acting job because how would you know?

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:28 PM (2DOZq)

422 wife is not talking to me. Finished up a Root Canal on her today. Sigh. Anyone got a dog house to rent
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 27, 2020 08:16 PM


No, but I think I need a root canal.
I definitely need a long, slow root canal.

Posted by: Arthur Denton at June 27, 2020 09:28 PM (d/5jB)

423 Jaden Smith was an outstanding child actor.

Posted by: not Will Smith at June 27, 2020 09:29 PM (4thlk)

424 FrodoB @ 409 and 411- Yeah, I knew. Still like him as a oompaloompa, or many oompaloompas. As it were.

Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2020 09:29 PM (XhWtx)

425 There's a good doc about the making of "Dazed and Confused". The kid who played the main character was just some local kid...around Dallas, I think. The freshman girl was a local too. Not an actress. They're both awful in the movie but it's sort of charming. Probably the director's point. They both tried Hollywood after the movie but nothing clicked. Normal kids who caught the bug living more or less normal lives now while Affleck and McConaughey are superstars.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 09:29 PM (ja/kn)

426 Insomniac.. I watched it faithfully and yeah it was not the best show ever but his performance as well as Vera Farmiga's is what kept me watching.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 27, 2020 09:29 PM (dUJdY)

427 root canal could be a hell of a euphemism.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 09:29 PM (hHxp2)

428 423 Jaden Smith was an outstanding child actor.
Posted by: not Will Smith at June 27, 2020 09:29 PM (4thlk)


Take a knee, Cadet!

Posted by: Cypher Rage at June 27, 2020 09:30 PM (PiwSw)

429 423 Jaden Smith was an outstanding child actor.
Posted by: not Will Smith at June 27, 2020 09:29 PM (4thlk)

Oh Lord. Worst child actor ever. If he wasn't Will Smith's kid he wouldn't have even scored a bit part on a cranberry juice commercial.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:30 PM (NWiLs)

430 >>> as well as Vera Farmiga's is what kept me watching


Always had a thing for her, even thought she's not exactly classically pretty.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:30 PM (VWp7G)

431 The child actors in Jurrasic Park really, really, annoy me. I was rooting for the Dinosaurs in every scene the kids were in.

Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 09:30 PM (TPKib)

432 Jodie was in Bugsy Malone, watched that maybe a year ago, hadn't seen it since it came out in the late 70s.

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2020 09:31 PM (6f16T)

433 Not gonna lie a little hurt Miami Heat not getting the respect it deserves.

Can't hate the Baldwin because that role was so good.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:31 PM (uUAw3)

434 >>>The child actors in Jurrasic Park really, really, annoy me.



The kids in Jurassic World weren't much better.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:31 PM (VWp7G)

435 >>423 Jaden Smith was an outstanding child actor.
Posted by: not Will Smith at June 27, 2020 09:29 PM (4thlk)

Will Ferrell is a mediocre child actor.

Posted by: Zod at June 27, 2020 09:31 PM (XzT/D)

436 My conspiratorial side suspects that the reason for
canceling pre-Woke media is because movies and television prior to the
year 2000 is chock full of reminders of the freedom and prosperity
Americans used to enjoy.



Once socialism is fully implemented, the ruling class want there to be no reminders of how things used to be.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 09:17 PM (N30JC)


So we can achieve Air Strip One utopia


"Every record has been destroyed or falsified,
every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and
street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the
process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has
stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is
always right"

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 27, 2020 09:31 PM (CTvKH)

437 she's not exactly classically pretty.

Sexy.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (dUJdY)

438 Always had a thing for her, even thought she's not exactly classically pretty.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:30 PM (VWp7

I know what you mean. She was good in The Departed. Had that vibe.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (2DOZq)

439 400 I like the ooompaloompas in Burtons Chocolate Factory. They were child actors, right? Little orangeish dudes?
Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2020 09:21 PM (XhWtx)

---------------------------

They were proto-Trumps.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (CAJOC)

440 True Romance is great. Dennis Hopper's death soliloquy is epic, and Val Kilmer's Elvis is exquisite.

Posted by: eastofsuez at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (U2zca)

441
Dakota Fanning as a child actress -- nothing but screaming. (A young, white, and female Samuel L. Jackson, IOW.) Now? Just she's another face in the crowd.

Her sister Elle, on the other hand, is stunningly attractive and, I think, not as one dimensional as her big sister.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (pNxlR)

442 371 I fell in LOVE with Dianne Lane in Streets of Fire.

That movie is dumb though

Even though it has the creepy dude who is good.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:15 PM (uUAw3)

Great soundtrack. It was all about the music for me.

and yes, I have the soundtrack on me phone.

Well, One bad stud moved in my neighborhood

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (NgKpN)

443 Insomniac @ 414, I think they were....may I dare say it......dwarves?

Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (XhWtx)

444 >>>Sexy.


Yes Jewells, that's a better word for it. There were parts of The Departed I despised, and while her character sometimes annoyed me, I couldn't take my eyes off her.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (VWp7G)

445 I don't know if she's been mentioned yet but I think Hayley Mills was a wonderful child actress.

Posted by: Tuna at June 27, 2020 09:33 PM (gLRfa)

446 438 Always had a thing for her, even thought she's not exactly classically pretty.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:30 PM (VWp7

I know what you mean. She was good in The Departed. Had that vibe.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (2DOZq)

==========

You can see her body double's butt in Up in the Air.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:33 PM (LvTSG)

447 Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 09:29 PM (ja/kn)

Affleck was good in Dazed and Confused.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:33 PM (uUAw3)

448 I'd say fight me but who's kidding I'm a mess rn.

Still
Posted by: Thesokorus
Thank you. I have been having this conflicted feeling for weeks, but did not know how to express it. Stuff gets me annoyed and I feel like going all Michael Douglas/Falling Down, but I am not at my peak.

Posted by: MikeM at June 27, 2020 09:33 PM (lqHqy)

449 Always had a thing for her, even thought she's not exactly classically pretty.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:30 PM (VWp7

I forgot about her best role in a very underrated movie IMO, Running Scared. Her taking out the pedos was awesome.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:33 PM (2DOZq)

450 425 There's a good doc about the making of "Dazed and Confused". The kid who played the main character was just some local kid...around Dallas, I think. The freshman girl was a local too. Not an actress. They're both awful in the movie but it's sort of charming. Probably the director's point. They both tried Hollywood after the movie but nothing clicked. Normal kids who caught the bug living more or less normal lives now while Affleck and McConaughey are superstars.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 09:29 PM (ja/kn)

I saw that behind the scenes video. I enjoyed the backstories.

It's on the YouTube, and worth your time if you liked Dazed and Confused.

Posted by: browndog at June 27, 2020 09:34 PM (BgMrQ)

451 443 Insomniac @ 414, I think they were....may I dare say it......dwarves?
Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (XhWtx)

Couldn't have been. There were way more than seven.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:34 PM (NWiLs)

452 My favorite movies focusing mostly on child actors are, in no particular order:

A Christmas Story
The Sandlot
The Bad News Bears (the original)

The kids in these seemed very natural, at least to me.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 27, 2020 09:34 PM (CAJOC)

453 431 The child actors in Jurrasic Park really, really, annoy me. I was rooting for the Dinosaurs in every scene the kids were in.
Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 09:30 PM (TPKib)

The boy was in Justified as an adult. He played a snake-handling preacher.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 27, 2020 09:34 PM (qrX0b)

454 Actually, a root canal with no anesthesia would be kind of a welcome break from watching the whole world actually collapse into a Kafka nightmare.

Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 09:34 PM (TPKib)

455 Farmiga was in a short-lived series called Touching Evil that I liked. And I've liked her ever since. I would not say she's beautiful exactly, but whatever quality it is she has, she has it. Bigly.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 27, 2020 09:34 PM (H5knJ)

456 >>>I forgot about her best role in a very underrated movie IMO, Running Scared. Her taking out the pedos was awesome.


I've only seen the one with Billy Crystal. Good film, IMO.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:34 PM (VWp7G)

457 One of my favorite films. Slater is so fantastic in it, as is Gary Oldman. Just a great overall cast.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Drexl, a white guy who thinks he's a bad ass black guy. Wonder how Tarantino thought that up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 27, 2020 09:35 PM (+y/Ru)

458 455 Farmiga was in a short-lived series called Touching Evil that I liked. And I've liked her ever since. I would not say she's beautiful exactly, but whatever quality it is she has, she has it. Bigly.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 27, 2020 09:34 PM (H5knJ)

Touching Evil was pretty good. Too bad it was canceled or whatever.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:35 PM (NWiLs)

459 The queen of child actresses has to be Shirley Temple.

Posted by: Tuna at June 27, 2020 09:35 PM (gLRfa)

460 >>>The boy was in Justified as an adult.



The daughter in Still Standing was the drug dealing teenager.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:35 PM (VWp7G)

461 430 >>> as well as Vera Farmiga's is what kept me watching


Always had a thing for her, even thought she's not exactly classically pretty.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:30 PM (VWp7G)

Realized a LOT of years ago, that there is a huge difference between Pretty, and Hot.

Its like the Woman who plays the love interest in Deadpool. Not really pretty, but scorching HAWT.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2020 09:35 PM (NgKpN)

462 True Romance is great. Dennis Hopper's death soliloquy is epic, and Val Kilmer's Elvis is exquisite.
Posted by: eastofsuez at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (U2zca

Don't forget Gary Oldman as Drexl.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:36 PM (2DOZq)

463 >>>Drexl, a white guy who thinks he's a bad ass black guy. Wonder how Tarantino thought that up.



"Hey Marvin, it ain't white boy day, is it?"

"No man, it ain't white boy day."

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:36 PM (VWp7G)

464 Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (NgKpN)

How did that movie get made? I'd have thought there wasn't enough coke in the world to convince the money men. But I guess there was....

Sledgehammers?

And the lead actor was an unintelligent piece of wood

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:36 PM (uUAw3)

465 I wonder what Lindsay Lohan is up to lately? Staying at home and have her drugs delivered?

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2020 09:36 PM (4thlk)

466 Vera Farmiga and Claire Forlani

Not classically beautiful, but you can't take your eye of them.

Posted by: browndog at June 27, 2020 09:36 PM (BgMrQ)

467
Its like the Woman who plays the love interest in Deadpool. Not really pretty, but scorching HAWT.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2020 09:35 PM (NgKpN)

Morena Baccarin. I was smitten the first time I saw her in Firefly. Mmmm...yummy.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:36 PM (NWiLs)

468 >>>Its like the Woman who plays the love interest in Deadpool. Not really pretty, but scorching HAWT.


Morena Baccarin. Mmmmmm

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:37 PM (VWp7G)

469 453 431 The child actors in Jurrasic Park really, really, annoy me. I was rooting for the Dinosaurs in every scene the kids were in.
Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 09:30 PM (TPKib)

The boy was in Justified as an adult. He played a snake-handling preacher.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 27, 2020 09:34 PM (qrX0b)

---------------------------

Really? Which episode did he die in?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 27, 2020 09:38 PM (CAJOC)

470 The daughter in Still Standing was the drug dealing teenager.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:35 PM (VWp7G)

She was really, really good. I remember watching her first scene, with a guy who is supposed to be a pedo. It was such awkward subject matter, but she played it so well, I was blown away.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 27, 2020 09:38 PM (qrX0b)

471 >>> I remember watching her first scene, with a guy who is supposed to be a pedo. It was such awkward subject matter, but she played it so well, I was blown away.


Yeah, the girl has real talent.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:38 PM (VWp7G)

472 Unpopular opinion I guess, I can't stand Vera Farmiga, everything about her irritates the shit out of me. I always wondered how she ever got as far as she did.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2020 09:38 PM (4thlk)

473 373

As for Lost, I will chat about the show any time. I have seen it through at least twice and have also watched the many reactions on YT. It is not a perfect show but a really good one. It ran down rabbit holes many times but it was always interesting. What stands out to me is how most of the cast were no names when it came out and now most of them are very successful in other series.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 09:15 PM

Lost holds special nostalgia for me. Love that show. My favorite series of all time as far as a drama. (Seinfeld is my favorite sitcom.)

I loved it for the mystery, but especially for the relationships throughout the series. The character arcs, the losses, the trials, the challenges each faced. And that was my introduction to the amazing performance by Michael Emerson. What a character he played. (Which then led me to watch him in his next great series "Person of Interest" with Jim Caviezel. Another of my favorite past shows.)

But aside from the great show I felt LOST was, it came out at a time in my life when I was finally settled here in Michigan after moving here in 1999. I had a serious girlfriend for the 2nd time in my life, I had a close group of good friends and I had just bought a house and my life was looking full of promise.

Friends and I would get together every week for "Lost" watching parties and stay an hour or two after discussing the show and talk about it all week leading up to the next week.

Just such good memories watching that show.

Which is why I am watching it again now, because here I am 15 years later and none of that promise I had in my life back then came to fruition. And with every tv or movie medium shoving either COVID-19 or BLM crap in our face, I just want to escape back to a better time.

And yeah, I thought about that too with all those actors starting out then, who went on to even more later: Michael Emerson, Josh Holloway (lead in "Colony" TV series and in Ghost Protocol), Daniel Dae Kim (Hawai'i 5-0 I think?), Evangeline Lilly (The Hobbit movies as an Elf, Marvel's The Wasp), etc.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 09:39 PM (Do5/p)

474

I saw "The Hunt" last week..

It's a near great dark comedy about a group of Our Betters hunting down a bunch of Deplorables.

"The Most Dangerous Game" divided along political lines.

I'm not going to go into details cuz a lot of the fun in this movie are the shocks, twists, and surprises.

I understand why the critics in general give it a thumb's down cuz it's a pretty thorough savaging of the Left's beliefs, hypocrisy, and philosophical nature.

Understand that this is first an foremost a gory action picture. There are no or at least very few political deiscussions.

However, this little gem manages to include within the action and plotting a sly criticism of cancel culture, a keen criticism of libtard victimization philosophy as a driving force of their actions and politics, and the bumper sticker quality of libtard "thought" -

as a f'rinstance just before he kills one of the "Deplorables" lying helpless and wounded one of Our Betters triumphantly yells, "Global Warming is Real!!!".

That's the quality of their thought. They're idiots who think they're geniuses.

Great direction, crisp, clean, clever script, great acting.
Shocks, great gory action, and general mayhem. Surprisingly subtle script, even when it throws the libtards a dog biscuit.

Definitely, check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2020 09:39 PM (ysqzb)

475 Its like the Woman who plays the love interest in Deadpool. Not really pretty, but scorching HAWT.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2020 09:35 PM (NgKpN

Not pretty ? That's the actress who played Inara in Firefly. Smoking hot. Baccarin

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:39 PM (2DOZq)

476 451 443 Insomniac @ 414, I think they were....may I dare say it......dwarves?
Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2020 09:32 PM (XhWtx)

Couldn't have been. There were way more than seven.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:34 PM (NWiLs)

Under the Rainbow. Chevy Chase Movie where he is the studio rep while they are filming Wizard of Oz, and he has to keep the 'little people' from getting TOO out of hand. Seems it IS true that the studio paid for them to stay at a couple of hotels during the filming.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 27, 2020 09:39 PM (NgKpN)

477 Thank you. I have been having this conflicted feeling for weeks, but did not know how to express it. Stuff gets me annoyed and I feel like going all Michael Douglas/Falling Down, but I am not at my peak.
Posted by: MikeM at June 27, 2020 09:33 PM (lqHqy)

Your welcome Mike.

Have you seen Mandy or Buckarro Banzai or Justified or Miami Heat?

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:40 PM (uUAw3)

478 In Hollywood films even the not hot women are hot. If you want to see movies with actual people and even ugly people you need to go with older foreign films. The Spaghetti Westerns had lots of regular looking and even ugly people. A more modern film that has normal looking people is Secrets and Lies.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 09:40 PM (hHxp2)

479
I first saw Vera Farmiga in "15 Minutes", a so-so picture whose saving grace was Robert DeNiro dying a gruesome and prolonged death.

She gas a sister who is 21 years younger, Taissa, who also is in films.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 27, 2020 09:41 PM (pNxlR)

480 The real "Dead Pool" stars Patricia Clarkson, another "hmmm, not a stop traffic stunner, but for some reason I ferociously want her" type. Or, exactly Clint Eastwood's type.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 09:41 PM (ja/kn)

481
468 >>>Its like the Woman who plays the love interest in Deadpool. Not really pretty, but scorching HAWT.


Morena Baccarin. Mmmmmm
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:37 PM (VWp7G)



She got skinny like Jennifer Connolly right?

Sad.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:41 PM (uUAw3)

482 >>>Or, exactly Clint Eastwood's type.



She's Clint's Sandra Locke replacement.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:42 PM (VWp7G)

483 482 >>>Or, exactly Clint Eastwood's type.



She's Clint's Sandra Locke replacement.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:42 PM (VWp7G)

===========

Just buy her a house and never talk to her again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 09:42 PM (LvTSG)

484 Really? Which episode did he die in?
Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 27, 2020 09:38 PM (CAJOC)

The one where Boyd replaced the de-venomed snake with a un-de-vemoned snake, as a matter of fact.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 27, 2020 09:43 PM (qrX0b)

485 I first saw Vera Farmiga in "15 Minutes", a so-so picture whose saving grace was Robert DeNiro dying a gruesome and prolonged death.

She gas a sister who is 21 years younger, Taissa, who also is in films.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 27, 2020 09:41 PM (pNxlR)


Taissa has been in a few seasons of the American Horror Story series. She's quite good.

If you had told me they were mother and daughter instead of sisters though, I would have believed it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2020 09:43 PM (hku12)

486 Its like the Woman who plays the love interest in Deadpool. Not really pretty, but scorching HAWT.


Perhaps better known for her role as the Registered Companion Inara in Firefly, and Serenity.

Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 09:43 PM (TPKib)

487 I've only seen the one with Billy Crystal. Good film, IMO.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:34 PM (VWp7G

This is a fast moving criminal centered action movie. I give it 5 out of 5 .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:44 PM (2DOZq)

488 Laura Linney's another Sandy Locke stand in. Clint has a type..

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 09:44 PM (ja/kn)

489 Clyde Shelton!!! Always nice to meet a fellow LOST fan! I was OBSESSED with that damn show. I just hated how it ended because so many didn't understand it and I hated what they did to John Locke. BTW.. the guy that played Sawyer is now on Yellowstone.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 27, 2020 09:44 PM (dUJdY)

490 She gas a sister who is 21 years younger, Taissa, who also is in films.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 27, 2020 09:41 PM (pNxlR)

She was on the first few seasons of American Horror Story. She's a pretty girl.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 27, 2020 09:44 PM (qrX0b)

491 Can't stand Melissa Leo also. We could have a whole thread on actors and actresses that I can't stand.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2020 09:45 PM (4thlk)

492 The one where Boyd replaced the de-venomed snake with a un-de-vemoned snake, as a matter of fact.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 27, 2020 09:43 PM (qrX0b)

Dewey shooting the above ground pool is my favorite.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:45 PM (uUAw3)

493 Gary Oldman is a chameleon, as was Alan Rickman. Simply fabulous.

Posted by: eastofsuez at June 27, 2020 09:45 PM (U2zca)

494 Kelly Reno is a terrible child actor in a good "Black Stallion" movie.

Posted by: Zod at June 27, 2020 09:46 PM (XzT/D)

495 SO this week I watched Uncut Gems. I've never been able to watch much of any of Adam Sandler's movies, but he's amazing in this as he's playing a real character, not one of his schlock comedy characters. I've head he does this anti-type in Punch Drunk Love as well which I previously passed on, because Sandler.

Shame he does so much drek, because he turned in an amazing performance here as a guy who is rather smart, but is addicted to gambling and always trying to reach for the next bigger thing, be it his mistress or next big score.

The first almost 10 minutes feel like chaos and I almost turned it off but it sets the tone and builds tension throughout to almost unbearable levels without doing a major release of it, which started to feel overwhelming (where I did have to take a break). It's a powerful film, though its make up doesn't put it in "unmissable" category.

Also from a atmosphere stand point I saw Phantasm for the first time. This should be a go to for horror films in how one created atmosphere and tension, though its twist didn't connect with me.

And then there is a jump scare with someone you never see or get reference to before or after who walks out of a room just for that moment. That's a "What not to do" teaching moment.

Also watched Jojo Rabbit. I can have a dark sense of humor so the idea of Hitler as an imaginary friend appealed to me. Its a well crafted film with some great performances-Sam Rockwell's gay NAZI officer who disillusioned in the end days of the war and willing to make comments just short of ones that could get him hanged for treason is amazing.

In keeping with the theme of the thread, Roman Griffin Davis puts in a fantastic job as the titular character who goes from conditioned youth (he's a member and vocal Hitler youth at the start) to someone who has his eyes opened as he becomes enamored with the Jewish girl (Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie) his mom is hiding in the attic.

The character progression feels sweet, and some of the film events feel truly shocking. The film doesn't try to go all "True horror of war", but it doesn't hide moments either. And its one of the few films I remember seeing that displays a bit of how the chaos of the allies entering towns must have felt from the towns people's point of view without trying to make a point on if its good or bad. Just chaotic for the villagers. It's not going to be the best film I saw this year, but I'm going to remember it-unlike Once Upon A Time In Hollywood which is already fading from memory after a couple months.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 09:46 PM (Ojki1)

496 Jennifer Connelly started out in her early teens, in Once Upon a Time in America.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 09:46 PM (l3+k2)

497 492 The one where Boyd replaced the de-venomed snake with a un-de-vemoned snake, as a matter of fact.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 27, 2020 09:43 PM (qrX0b)

Dewey shooting the above ground pool is my favorite.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:45 PM (uUAw3)

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I watched bits and pieces of episodes. My wife was more into it. I just remember thinking that by the end of the series, there wasn't going to be anyone alive in town.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 27, 2020 09:47 PM (CAJOC)

498 445

I don't know if she's been mentioned yet but I think Hayley Mills was a wonderful child actress.

Posted by: Tuna at June 27, 2020 09:33 PM

Yes. I have always liked her version of "The Parent Trap". Saw it when I was young and still enjoy it now.

Brian Keith as the father and Maureen O'Hara the mother.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 09:47 PM (Do5/p)

499 Justified is some of the best TV ever. Up there with Breaking Bad.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:47 PM (NWiLs)

500 I was watching Adam 12 last week and Randolph Mantooth was in the episode playing a cowboy, it just about caused a rift in the 70s episodic television time continuum.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2020 09:49 PM (NJNke)

501
"SO this week I watched Uncut Gems. I've never been able to watch much of any of Adam Sandler's movies,"



I love watching the RedLetter guys tear him apart. they can't stand him in his "serious" movies either.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2020 09:49 PM (4thlk)

502 Jesse Bradford and Lucas Black ("Slingblade") were pretty decent child actors. The latter, especially, had a certain naturalness about him.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 09:49 PM (N30JC)

503 I watched bits and pieces of episodes. My wife was more into it. I just remember thinking that by the end of the series, there wasn't going to be anyone alive in town.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 27, 2020 09:47 PM (CAJOC)

Idk dude I just liked Waylan getting beaten up and the dude who drive around in an RV watching women's tennis.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:49 PM (uUAw3)

504 Holy smokes! It is sweet to see President Trump blowing up Twitter with dozens of Wanted posters! Deface the nation is going to have an even bigger hissyfit than usual this Sunday.

Posted by: Downcast at June 27, 2020 09:50 PM (xgpfE)

505 I've talked myself into putting in Running Scared into the DVD player.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:50 PM (2DOZq)

506 Justified is some of the best TV ever. Up there with Breaking Bad.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:47 PM (NWiLs)


"The" Nick Searcy was also a fantastic actor in a relatively minor part in Justified.
Great show!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -YOU are all in this together!- at June 27, 2020 09:51 PM (eTZoJ)

507 Jesse Bradford and Lucas Black ("Slingblade") were pretty decent child actors. The latter, especially, had a certain naturalness about him.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 09:49 PM (N30JC)

I was just getting ready to post that Lucas Black was very good in American Gothic. Shows I like always get cancelled. *sigh*

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 27, 2020 09:51 PM (qrX0b)

508 Let's all calm down and just admit Rockford Files is the best TV show. Ok?

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:52 PM (uUAw3)

509 "Justified" is adaptation of Elmore Leonard's novels/character. No wonder it's good. Leonard is the best American novelist since Saul Bellow, and at the rate we're going there may never even be another good American novelist. At least not one a some what mass audience will ever actually read.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 09:53 PM (ja/kn)

510 SO this week I watched Uncut Gems. I've never been able to watch much of any of Adam Sandler's movies,"



I love watching the RedLetter guys tear him apart. they can't stand him in his "serious" movies either.
Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2020 09:49 PM (4thlk

He was fantastic in Uncut Gems. And I think Funny People was a very good serious movie .

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:53 PM (2DOZq)

511 You know what would be a great movie? One that took all the woke people being shoved down our throats and played them exactly as booringly banal as they really are, only with "super hero" music in the background - where you keep expecting them to do something - but there is no there there. Just a grey socialist world of monotone The title of the movie would be 2030.

Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 09:54 PM (TPKib)

512 Am I alone in this? I have a VERY STRONG premonition that Taika Waititi is going to be implicated in a kiddy-fiddling scandal at some point.

Why do I say that? Look at the dude's filmography:
BOY: Maori kid obsessed with Michael Jackson (need I say more?) renews relationship with estranged father

HUNT FOR THE WILDERPEOPLE: Maori kid obsessed with rap music establishes relationship with Sam Neill

JOJO RABBIT: German kid establishes relationship with imaginary Hitler played by Waititi.

His only films that aren't about kids in sketchy relationships with older men are What We Do In the Shadows and Thor.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 27, 2020 09:54 PM (wL2ZV)

513 I've never watched any of Lost, but, in the first episode, after the crash, on the beach, they pull some shoes or boots or whatever off the body of a dead woman.

I knew her when I lived out in Honolulu. It was her claim to fame, as she worked as an extra out there. A real dingbat, total SJW.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 09:54 PM (l3+k2)

514 @508

That distinction goes to Barney Miller.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2020 09:54 PM (NJNke)

515 Speaking of kids, I see Prime is pushing some Dave Bautista movie where he's a government spy teamed up with a kid. I think they made this same movie with the Rock and many many others.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2020 09:54 PM (4thlk)

516 506 Justified is some of the best TV ever. Up there with Breaking Bad.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 27, 2020 09:47 PM (NWiLs)

"The" Nick Searcy was also a fantastic actor in a relatively minor part in Justified.
Great show!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -YOU are all in this together!- at June 27, 2020 09:51 PM (eTZoJ)

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Sam Elliot on Justified was a little hard to take without his moustache.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 27, 2020 09:54 PM (CAJOC)

517 The guy that played Charlie, the guy that played Hugo and almost all of them went on to star in other shows. I would guess there is some kind of record there. It was a large cast and so many of them went onward and upward.

It is interesting that you mention how certain shows and movies have a special place in one's heart because of the time and place when we watched them. I have said the same about movies. Most of the movies I really loved were from an earlier time when such things meant more to me. They also had a stronger effect on society imo because people had more shared experiences decades ago. Sure there are movies today that make an impact, but it is not the same to me.


My experience with Lost is pretty much the opposite of yours. I didn't watch the series until right before the last season premiered. There was so much hype about it, I decided to watch the first four seasons. It was the first series I ever streamed or binge watched.

Bad Robot!

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 09:54 PM (hHxp2)

518
I think "1917" was a missed opportunity.

I was into the movie until about halfway through when I finally figured out that the movie was purposely avoiding the horror of trench warfare for a bunch of little side adventures which had nothing to do with WWI ,

for the big ending, which would feature the charge and then bring the horror home, which-

it did not do so.

It made a promise that it couldn't keep. We simply see soldiers charge out and as the hero ran toward the camera.

I felt cheated by the movie.

The director got the final sequence that he wanted but "1917" was no more than that.

And intended to be no more than that.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 27, 2020 09:54 PM (ysqzb)

519 489

Clyde Shelton!!! Always nice to meet a fellow LOST fan! I was OBSESSED with that damn show. I just hated how it ended because so many didn't understand it and I hated what they did to John Locke. BTW.. the guy that played Sawyer is now on Yellowstone.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 27, 2020 09:44 PM

So was I! So obsessed I bought the collector's edition of the series. heh

I didn't mind too much how it ended. I blame part of the reason for the ending on the writer's strike that happened in the middle of the series.

But while many of the mysteries were never resolved, I still take an Aerosmith "life's a journey, not a destination" attitude about the show.

I loved all the relationship and character arcs. Just so, so many good ones. And the Christian messages through so many different episodes.

Like I said, I'm am loving getting lost (no pun intended) in this series again. I remember spending the days between the episodes back then just getting lost in thought about the messages in the show and mysteries and such.

I wrote this 10 years ago after the series ended.

Those Whining about LOST Completely Miss Show's Message

https://bit.ly/3dLGvoY

If I wrote a post again today, I wouldn't call those people upset with the ending "whiners". I understand now why some people didn't like the ending. But I still think despite the many disappointments people had, if they go back and remember the journey of the series, I think they would remember it fondly.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 09:55 PM (Do5/p)

520 Insomniac @ 499, Justified was Elmore Leonard, right?

Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2020 09:55 PM (XhWtx)

521 509 "Justified" is adaptation of Elmore Leonard's novels/character. No wonder it's good. Leonard is the best American novelist since Saul Bellow, and at the rate we're going there may never even be another good American novelist. At least not one a some what mass audience will ever actually read.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 09:53 PM (ja/kn)

Nah. glenn cook is better. And I love Leonard.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:55 PM (uUAw3)

522 Too much 'shouting in "Uncut Gems". I get it, but slow the hell down. Knew where it was going too early. Didn't live up to the hype. Francesca as a bookie was funny though.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 09:55 PM (ja/kn)

523 Perhaps better known for her role as the Registered Companion Inara in Firefly, and Serenity.


And Mama Lizard in the remake of the TV V. That series ended way too soon for me.

I'd have to be surgically removed from her.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 27, 2020 09:56 PM (HaL55)

524 Kinda wandered off for a bit. Dang, it's humid for Colorado.

But Justified is the best TV show ever. Ever.

It knew when to quit.

My least favorite season was the one with Michael Rappaport, who thought a "southern accent" was talkin' like a re-tard.

But the lady person who played his sister was a saucy ginger minx. So that alone saved that particular season.

Fooking love that show.

Posted by: Pug Mahon thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 09:57 PM (x8Wzq)

525 WC Fields was proof that fat, drunk and stupid is the way to go thru life.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 27, 2020 09:57 PM (Z+IKu)

526 That distinction goes to Barney Miller.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2020 09:54 PM (NJNke)

Easy killer. The episode with the Tri-lateral Commission was truly excellent.

But Sanford and Son and The Fall Guy were better.

And we're not close to Monk and Rockford and Justified territory.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:58 PM (uUAw3)

527 510 SO this week I watched Uncut Gems. I've never been able to watch much of any of Adam Sandler's movies,"



I love watching the RedLetter guys tear him apart. they can't stand him in his "serious" movies either.
Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2020 09:49 PM (4thlk

He was fantastic in Uncut Gems. And I think Funny People was a very good serious movie .
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 09:53 PM (2DOZq)

I liked him in Spanglish. The scene with Paz Vega, in his restaurant was achingly good...imho.

And speaking of child actresses, the young lady who played his daughter was sweet.

Tea Leoni and Cloris Leachman were fun as well.

Posted by: browndog at June 27, 2020 09:58 PM (BgMrQ)

528 WC Fields was proof that fat, drunk and stupid is the way to go thru life.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 27, 2020 09:57 PM (Z+IKu)

*wobbly high-five*

Posted by: Pug Mahon thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 09:59 PM (x8Wzq)

529 But the lady person who played his sister was a saucy ginger minx. So that alone saved that particular season.

Fooking love that show.
Posted by: Pug Mahon thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 09:57 PM (x8Wzq)

Natalie Zea.

I win Checkmate bigot youvare finished here

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:00 PM (uUAw3)

530 Guy on Justified kilt more people each week than Matt Dillon and Efrem Zimbalist combined.

Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2020 10:00 PM (XhWtx)

531 517

The guy that played Charlie, the guy that played Hugo and almost all of them went on to star in other shows.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 09:54 PM

Speaking of Hugo, I know you mean the character in Lost, not the movie... but it made me think of the child actor in Hugo.

Asa Butterfield. He was 14 when the movie came out. I liked the Hugo movie, thought he did well in that.

He went on to some pretty good things too. Ender's Game I liked. And he was in The Space Between Us. Where he plays a teenager who was born in space and has never been back to earth, but is able to chat with a teenage girl from earth. Movie is ok.

He's now in some Netflix series "Sex Education". Watched a bit of first couple episodes and was unimpressed.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 10:00 PM (Do5/p)

532 Fields started out as a vaudeville juggler, which is why a significant number of his short comedy films involve a bit of juggling. Some considered him the greatest juggler ever, but he realized that being the greatest vaudeville juggler was like being king of the buggy-whip makers. So he switched to comedy, first on stage and then in film.

And yes, he was a major-league alcoholic who drank himself to death. But it took a long time. Dude must have had a liver like an Exxon refinery.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 27, 2020 10:00 PM (wL2ZV)

533 And I love Leonard.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:55 PM (uUAw3)

How about Part 6?

Posted by: B Cosby at June 27, 2020 10:01 PM (Ojki1)

534 In the vein of Lost, where the series seemed to get the best of the writers and just started throwing things at the wall, did anyone here watch "Carlie Jade"?

Posted by: Downcast at June 27, 2020 10:01 PM (xgpfE)

535 @521...Cook's good. But Neal Stephenson's a better candidate for "The Great American Novelist", I think. Intimidatingly good. Leonard's genius was to use the genre to tell stories about characters. I doubt there's a better novel about alcoholism than "Unknown Man #89" or about marriage than " Killshot".

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 10:02 PM (ja/kn)

536 If you want some seriously dark comedy, read about Redd Foxx's death. He had a heart attack while on the set filming some show . . . and NOBODY BELIEVED HIM. They thought he was doing his classic "this is the big one" bit. And then he died.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 27, 2020 10:03 PM (wL2ZV)

537 533 And I love Leonard.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:55 PM (uUAw3)

How about Part 6?
Posted by: B Cosby at June 27, 2020 10:01 PM (Ojki1)

Omg

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:03 PM (uUAw3)

538 Neal Stephenson? Cryptonomicon guy? Now that is a great book.

Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2020 10:04 PM (XhWtx)

539 Dude must have had a liver like an Exxon refinery.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 27, 2020 10:00 PM (wL2ZV)

was he Irish?

I think maybe Irish.

or Russian.

Posted by: Pug Mahon thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 10:05 PM (x8Wzq)

540 Fields was born in Philly, but his family were immigrants from England. Original surname Dukinfield.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 27, 2020 10:06 PM (wL2ZV)

541 517

I have said the same about movies. Most of the movies I really loved were from an earlier time when such things meant more to me. They also had a stronger effect on society imo because people had more shared experiences decades ago. Sure there are movies today that make an impact, but it is not the same to me.

Bad Robot!

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 09:54 PM

Hah! Yes, the Bad Robot. There's also "Sit, Ubu, sit. Good dog. *roof!*" that happens after some other old series that I watch. Can't remember what it is now. But it's funny how those small things stay with you.

And yes on the movies meaning more to us back when. It's why some of us take/took it so badly when Disney (in my opinion) ruined the Star Wars series.

Because for some of us, who grew up on the original trilogy (I was 4 years old when Empire Strikes Back came out and still remember the feeling of going to the drive-in with my uncle and seeing it for the first time), it's more than just a movie. It's our childhood. It's memories. It's nostalgia.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 10:06 PM (Do5/p)

542 Kent McCord > Randolph Mantooth

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 27, 2020 10:06 PM (Z+IKu)

543 loved all the relationship and character arcs. Just so, so many good
ones. And the Christian messages through so many different episodes.
---
Something I noticed when watching YT reviewers comment on the show. I have never seen anyone mention the significance of some of the character's names. I mean, John Locke, Hume, Rousseau, Burke, etc. And what about Christian Shephard?

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 10:06 PM (hHxp2)

544 SO this week I watched Uncut Gems. I've never been able to watch much of any of Adam Sandler's movies, but he's amazing in this as he's playing a real character
Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 09:46 PM (Ojki1)


I would have considered watching it, but the it was in the trailers for the two movies I saw in the theater last year and the volume of its trailer was TOO DARN LOUD. Painfully loud.

Posted by: Chuck C at June 27, 2020 10:07 PM (d/5jB)

545 535 @521...Cook's good. But Neal Stephenson's a better candidate for "The Great American Novelist", I think. Intimidatingly good. Leonard's genius was to use the genre to tell stories about characters. I doubt there's a better novel about alcoholism than "Unknown Man #89" or about marriage than " Killshot".
Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 10:02 PM (ja/kn)

neal is great. But he ripped okf Cook and Cook stands up to repeated reading MUCH better.

Black Company and The Dragon Never Sleeps and A Passage at Arms? All can be read more than 3 times.

Bester's Stars my Destination best sci-fi novel.

R A Lafferty maybe better even than Cook. But too esoteric probably. Same with Gene Wolfe

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:07 PM (uUAw3)

546 >>540 Fields was born in Philly,
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 27, 2020 10:06 PM (wL2ZV)

And a member in good standing of the skeptical tribe.

Posted by: Zod at June 27, 2020 10:07 PM (XzT/D)

547 @526

All good shows but Barney Miller was brilliant week after week.


I loved the fall guy as well, especially Brian Denihys star turn as Heather Thomas's bikini and the GMC K-2500.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2020 10:08 PM (NJNke)

548 @538...yep. "Cryptonomicon" is unbelievably, staggeringly good. "ReadMe" is great too. "SeveneveS" might be better than both. Then there's his weirdo middle ages trilogy...

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 10:08 PM (ja/kn)

549 I have a couple of Stephenson's books, but I have not read them because they feel hefty.

This might be a Book Thread Thing, but my favorite American authors (contemporary, anyway) are Larry McMurtry and Fred Saberhagen (two very different genres, of course). Mostly because they not only told good stories, but could write well, with brief, but solid description, and excellent, realistic dialogue.

Posted by: Pug Mahon thinks it's a vacuum at June 27, 2020 10:09 PM (x8Wzq)

550 @545...I think Stephenson gets peop!e better than Cook, if you know what I mean. Stephenson's characters make me laugh a lot. But I take your point. Cook was there first.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 10:10 PM (ja/kn)

551 Air Wolf.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 10:10 PM (l3+k2)

552
All good shows but Barney Miller was brilliant week after week.


I loved the fall guy as well, especially Brian Denihys star turn as Heather Thomas's bikini and the GMC K-2500.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2020 10:08 PM (NJNke)

This is acceptable. I will not b& you. Fish made the show. Let's be honest. It was Fish all along.

The opening credits of Fall Guy where Hearher slides into the hot tub?

That's America.

And that is why I win.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:10 PM (uUAw3)

553 @552

Bender Abides.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2020 10:12 PM (NJNke)

554 *Tea Leoni and Cloris Leachman were fun as well.*

Chloris Leachman as the evil grandma in Malcolm in the Middle was ... she stole the show.

I wonder if they will remove the episode where she is arguing with a black man who tells her, "Okay, you know what? See, here's the thing, lady. We're better than you. Every one of us in every way. I'm smarter than you, more educated. And I contribute more to society. I have a family that loves me. I live in a big house, drive a nice car, and make more money in a year than you've probably made your whole lifetime."

She replies, "Big deal. So you're a drug dealer!"

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 10:12 PM (N30JC)

555 551 Air Wolf.
Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 10:10 PM (l3+k2)

Thank you for your service sir.

jan Michael must be given his due.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:12 PM (uUAw3)

556 If for no other reason, Van Helsing was great for the portrayal of Frankenstein's Monster. He is absolutely true to the character in the original Mary Shelly story. That made me laugh out loud.

I'll add that Mary Shelly's original novel, Frankenstein (A modern Prometheus) is awful beyond words. It's a serious slog to get through it.


JWM

Posted by: jwm at June 27, 2020 10:13 PM (HnUoF)

557 There were a lot more chicks in bikinis on TV back in the early 80's. Which was nice.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2020 10:13 PM (4thlk)

558 Air Wolf.
Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 10:10 PM (l3+k2)

Bought the bluray set recently. Got through the first 2 seasons.

Its not a very binge show.

Neither is The Dukes of Hazzard. Though Air Wolf probably won't be "cancelled" out of culture in the next 6 months.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 10:14 PM (Ojki1)

559 Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 27, 2020 10:10 PM (ja/kn)

Just goofing.

Both 100% legit.

Matter of taste really.

Master craftsmen.

Stephenson, Cook, Lafferty and Wolfe all in the running.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:14 PM (uUAw3)

560 ecause for some of us, who grew up on the original
trilogy (I was 4 years old when Empire Strikes Back came out and still
remember the feeling of going to the drive-in with my uncle and seeing
it for the first time), it's more than just a movie. It's our
childhood. It's memories. It's nostalgia.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 27, 2020 10:06 PM (Do5/p)

I was a few years older than that when Star Wars came out. It was the first time we saw movie lines that actually stretched around the block. And it was the first time I ever stayed in the theater to watch the movie again. It wasn't just me, it was everyone lol.
My biggest recollection was that at the time Star Wars had no "nerd" connection. It was a blockbuster like never before and everyone was into it.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 10:15 PM (hHxp2)

561 558
Air Wolf.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 10:10 PM (l3+k2)



Bought the bluray set recently.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 10:14 PM (Ojki1)


Seriously?

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 10:16 PM (l3+k2)

562 Air Wolf.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 10:10 PM (l3+k2)



Thank you for your service sir.



jan Michael must be given his due.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:12 PM (uUAw3)

Hooper.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 10:16 PM (hHxp2)

563 Hooper.
Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 10:16 PM (hHxp2)

Hardcastle and McCormick

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:18 PM (uUAw3)

564 >>It was a blockbuster like never before and everyone was into it. Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 10:15 PM (hHxp2)

Saw it in a theatre in Wiesbaden, Germany, through a cloud of cigarette smoke.

Posted by: Zod at June 27, 2020 10:18 PM (XzT/D)

565 Damnation Alley > Star Wars

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 27, 2020 10:18 PM (Z+IKu)

566 I loved the fall guy as well, especially Brian Denihys star turn as Heather Thomas's bikini and the GMC K-2500.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 27, 2020 10:08 PM (NJNke)

I never missed an episode of The Fall Guy.

Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 10:18 PM (hHxp2)

567 Air Wolf.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 10:10 PM (l3+k2)



Bought the bluray set recently.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 10:14 PM (Ojki1)

Imagine the NSA category that put you in.

Whew.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:19 PM (uUAw3)

568 Seriously?
Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 10:16 PM (l3+k2)

Yep.

Late March or early April I believe.

Bluray is not the friend of its visual quality in a fair number of places, but no one in the 80s was thinking much past does it work on the tube TVs at the time.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 10:19 PM (Ojki1)

569 I never missed an episode of The Fall Guy.
Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 10:18 PM (hHxp2)

First rounds on me bro!

*hug*

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:20 PM (uUAw3)

570 Imagine the NSA category that put you in.

Whew.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:19 PM (uUAw3)

Good thing my course require copy of Cather in the Rye was purchased before they tracked those things.

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 10:20 PM (Ojki1)

571 Speaking of early 80's beauties, Erin Gray will be on Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, in a little while.
mmm Erin Gray.

Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 10:22 PM (TPKib)

572 571 Speaking of early 80's beauties, Erin Gray will be on Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, in a little while.
mmm Erin Gray.
Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 10:22 PM (TPKib)

That bodysuit bro.

I was dying.

Dying.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:23 PM (uUAw3)

573 Speaking of child actors and the Fall Guy, one of Scott Baio's many girlfriends was Heather Thomas.

Posted by: Can't resist temptation at June 27, 2020 10:23 PM (2DOZq)

574 Isn't Hearher a screaming lib?

Dat body though?

C'mon

Stawp

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 10:24 PM (uUAw3)

575 Night Court, starring Brian Dennehy as Markie Post's bra.

That guy got around.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 10:24 PM (l3+k2)

576 Late to the thread, but I was always impressed by Haley Joel Osmet. He could act.

I'm guessing drugs killed his career??? I don't know but with child actors its drugs, pedo rape or growing up and looking weird. Sometimes more than one of the above.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 27, 2020 10:26 PM (d1uFV)

577 Speaking of early 80's beauties, Erin Gray will be on Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, in a little while.
mmm Erin Gray.
Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 10:22 PM (TPKib)

Concur. She was fine.

Like a work of art.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 27, 2020 10:27 PM (Z+IKu)

578 Markie Post was on an episode of Buck Rogers in an outfit that prominently displayed some of her best features. Yow.

Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 10:29 PM (TPKib)

579 577 Speaking of early 80's beauties, Erin Gray will be on Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, in a little while.
mmm Erin Gray.
Posted by: An Observation at June 27, 2020 10:22 PM (TPKib)

Concur. She was fine.

Like a work of art.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 27, 2020 10:27 PM (Z+IKu)

Hot, fit, carries a gun? I'm in.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 27, 2020 10:30 PM (d1uFV)

580 OK, since nobody bothered, as far as I can tell...

ONT IS NOOD!

Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 27, 2020 10:33 PM (CAJOC)

581 *Erin Gray will be on Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, in a little while.*

And she was in Silver Spoons with Ricky Schroder.

So, that brings the thread round and back again.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at June 27, 2020 10:33 PM (N30JC)

582 576 Late to the thread, but I was always impressed by Haley Joel Osmet. He could act.

I'm guessing drugs killed his career??? I don't know but with child actors its drugs, pedo rape or growing up and looking weird. Sometimes more than one of the above.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 27, 2020 10:26 PM (d1uFV)

===========

Carbs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 10:34 PM (LvTSG)

583 >>>Markie Post was on an episode of Buck Rogers...

Binged... Holy Smokes.

Posted by: davidt at June 27, 2020 10:34 PM (l3+k2)

584 The "Miami Heat" movie mentioned a couple of times here, with Fred Ward and Alec Baldwin, is actually "Miami Blues", an absolutely delightful 1990 crime movie.

Posted by: yop at June 27, 2020 10:43 PM (nqhkI)

585 Late to the thread, but I was always impressed by Haley Joel Osmet. He could act.

I'm guessing drugs killed his career??? I don't know but with child actors its drugs, pedo rape or growing up and looking weird. Sometimes more than one of the above.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 27, 2020 10:26 PM (d1uFV)

I was thinking about this on Friday when TMJ said he was doing this thread. I think some of it is competition- good young actors are rarer than good older actors. Throw in that as they grow they may not grow as actors or grow into the look a director wants.

Like Corey Fieldman who was everywhere in his young years but is a pariah now (though his calling out the child predators isn't something Hollywood wants to deal with either).

Posted by: Bete at June 27, 2020 10:45 PM (Ojki1)

586 326
Snowpiercer has Jennifer Connelly so I would watch if it was on.



Other than that it has to do with trains that never stop.



I like trains.

Posted by: Thesokorus at June 27, 2020 09:06 PM (uUAw3)

I saw the Snowpiercer movie on some streaming channel. I was entertained. The TNT thing is stretched out so far and brings in a crime story. Jennifer Connelly is east on teh eyes, but showing her age.
Still a One.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 27, 2020 11:27 PM (ufFY8)

587 The daughter in Still Standing was the drug dealing teenager.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 27, 2020 09:35 PM (VWp7G)

I think you mean "Last Man Standing" with Tim Allen.

Her name is Kaitlyn Dever and she's immensely talented. She was great in Justified. I also think it was one of the best television shows I've ever seen.

Recently she was in the film Booksmart.

Still Standing was an older sitcom with Jamie Gertz and the heavy guy from The Full Monty.

Posted by: Gem at June 28, 2020 12:04 AM (kIHih)

588 582 576 Late to the thread, but I was always impressed by Haley Joel Osmet. He could act.

I'm guessing drugs killed his career??? I don't know but with child actors its drugs, pedo rape or growing up and looking weird. Sometimes more than one of the above.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 27, 2020 10:26 PM (d1uFV)

===========

Carbs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 27, 2020 10:34 PM (LvTSG)

Lol - when I saw him in The Boys it was like, Whoa. Keto for you, man.

Posted by: Gem at June 28, 2020 12:08 AM (kIHih)

589 there are like 4 people in KY that know how to make bourbon, the rest are carpetbaggers. 2020 bourbon is like 80's baseball cards. I gave up collecting both many years ago. And the Pappy craze should have ended years ago. The juice is now BT swill. Anyone paying more than $50 a bottle for Pappy is a fool.

Posted by: George at June 28, 2020 12:40 AM (r7uoI)

590 My biggest recollection was that at the time Star Wars had no "nerd" connection. It was a blockbuster like never before and everyone was into it.
Posted by: Quint at June 27, 2020 10:15 PM (hHxp2)

1977. I was a Senior in High School.

And yes, HUGE nerd.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 28, 2020 02:28 AM (NgKpN)

591 You can't figure out how "Quvenzhane Wallis" received an inordinate amount of praise for no reason? Really?

Posted by: rechill at June 28, 2020 07:43 AM (lYLWl)

592 I'm glad Bogdanovich put the effort in. That was a handsome film, and the characters make it great.
I had the impression that Tatum O'Neal quit acting in her young adult years, but I see from IMDB that she took or landed few parts from 1985 to 2002 but has had something in the works every year since then.

Posted by: Art Deco at June 28, 2020 03:45 PM (1BrBu)

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