Sunday Morning Book Thread 06-28-2020

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Municipal Law Library, Munich


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), and you deplorables who, if you threw a brick through a storefront window, would actually get arrested on the spot and be charged for your criminal behavior and adulatory profiles about you would not be published in Acela Corridor media. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these space-age diapers and you know, if you're going to have a zipper that big, you'd better have something to back it up with, IYKWIMAITYD.



Pic Note:

Certainly worth a visit for bibliophiles:

Munich’s Municipal Law Library is by far one of the most beautiful libraries in the world, as you probably know if you read our feature. Luckily, you don’t need to be a lawyer or a law student to visit this elaborate library as it is open to the public. It resembles a bright and warm forest in which to enjoy the magic of literature (shame it is filled with law books, eh?) – the railing on the great spiral staircase is rendered as vines and leaves, with the light fixtures repeating the same motif, giving the impression they are growing straight from the wall.

The German literary treasure is located within the city’s Neues Rathaus (New Town Hall), which was built between 1867 and 1908 by Georg von Hauberrisser in a Gothic Revival architecture style.



It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

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(More on this later in the thread)




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Superstitions of Our Time

It's amazing to me how much of the prog-left worldview is based on crap books. Starting with the Big Book of Crap itself, Das Kapital. And then there's The Little Book of Big Crap. Then there's The Big Book of Pervy Sex, AKA Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, accompanied by The Little Book of Pervy Sex, widely debunked, but still required college reading. And for women, we have The Big Book of Crap, Women's Edition, otherwise known as The Feminine Mystique, which was written by that rat bastard commie Betty Friedan.

And now there's one more progressive book to toss on to the growing pile of crap. I'm talking about White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism, which probably should be called Robin D'Angelo's Big Book of Racist Crap: Why It's So Hard For White People To Shut Up and Admit That They're Monsters.

One Amazon customer review noted:

DiAngelo...is a professional race-baiting huckster. She makes a living traveling the country telling white people how awful they are, how morally superior she is, and how if white people pay ridiculously expensive fees to attend her lectures, they too can be a "good" white person like her.

Heh. Nice work if you can get it. But I don't think it's even this good. I think DiAngelo's position is that white people are inescapably racist, and if you deny being a racist, that's just proof you're a racist. And if you object to the heads-we-win-tails-you-lose unfairness of this, you're "fragile". And a racist.

In other words:

[I]f DiAngelo accuses you of racism or fragility and you disagree with her in any way-through argument, silence, or withdrawal-your reaction is considered proof of your fragility. DiAngelo leaves white readers with only two options. Either acknowledge your fragility, which proves DiAngelo’s theory, or deny your fragility, which according to DiAngelo, also proves her theory. This is a logical fallacy known as a Kafkatrap. If our legal system worked this way, no person accused of a crime would ever be acquitted because their denial would prove their guilt.

Which I think happened in some of those trials of child-care center owners accused of crimes up to and including "satanic ritual abuse" in the late 80s. The defendants' denials of molesting children was held to be evidence against them because that's what you would expect a child molester to say.

The paragraph I just quoted came from this review here, which debunks DiAngelo's nonsense pretty thoroughly, as does Tucker Carlson in this segment.

But I'm afraid this crap is catching on fast. It doesn't matter that Margaret Mead's Pervy Sex Book has been thoroughly debunked, it is still required reading for most college freshman. Likewise with DiAngelo's crap. Its poison has already been injected into the national bloodstream, and we're going to be feeling the effects of its perniciousness for years to come. My only consolation is that woke generally eats woke, so I hope I live to see the day when DiAngelo's book is consigned to the flames for being insufficiently woke.

And much of my information for this piece was pulled from this article, The 50 Worst Books of the 20th Century.



Who Dis:

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(Last week's 'who dis' was actress Rita Hayworth. I thought her blonde hair would throw you. Apparently, not for long.)



Anyone Else Remember the TIME Reading Program?

F'rinstance, yesterday I ordered a hardback copy of "The Beast of the Haitian Hills" by Philippe Thoby-Marcelin and Pierre Marcelin (published I think around 1946) which appeared to be in very good shape for an excellent (ie. relatively cheap price)

"TBotHH" is considered to be the first modern novel to come out of Haiti.

It's a pretty wonderful story mostly concerning a grocer, Morin, as he tries to muddle his way through Haitian society, seductions, the trials of modern life in conflict with Haitian superstition and vodou, the gods and lots, zombies, and his own romantic image of the Haitian countryside where he would like to live.

Wild occurrences clash with mundane reality and psychological/personal conflict.

If this sounds like something, you might like to read, too bad, old chum, it's been forgotten by time!

Or rather, the only reasonable way you can get it is through an old TIME printing available on Amazon, etc.

The TIME printing is a classy paperback with a thick cardboard cover and what must be acid-free paper cuz it still looks good.

It was part of a modern classics series they did around 1954 or so.

Check it out.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2020 09:59 AM (ysqzb)

My parents evidently had subscribed to the TIME (magazine) reading program back in the day before it had degenerated into just another progressive sock puppet and we had several bookshelves full of these TIME editions. I think you subscribed annually and got a new one every month. So I looked for this on Amazon and the cover art brought back memories:



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I don't recall that we had this particular book, but the cover font was one that was used quite often, and the style of artwork is also very familiar. The binding wasn't quite hard cover, but not really a paperback, either. It was, as NF said, stiff cardboard, only that doesn't quite do it justice, either. It's difficult to describe, but it's very durable and manufactured to last, and the pages don't suddenly start falling out like most paperbacks. If you ever get a chance to order one online, do so, if it's in reasonably good condition, you won't be disappointed.

I don't think they're valuable enough to be collectors items, but I think they probably should be.

So, what happened to all of those TIME books my parents had that I had grown up with? I don't know. Toward the end of his life, my father was giving away things he no longer needed, and I told him I wanted those books. But he said he wanted to hold onto them, so I thought OK, fine, I can wait. Then he passed in June of 2012, and my mother passed 5 months later. And somewhere in between, all of the TIME books just disappeared. I have no idea what happened to them. Mom wasn't thinking very clearly toward the end, so I think she may have just tossed them.

Anyway, Abebooks appears to have a number of copies of the TIME edition, many for < $5.



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Moron Recommendations

53 Now reading The Edge of Anarchy by Jack Kelly. It is the story of the Pullman strike of 1893. The author is certainly on the side of labor, but it is generally an accurate history. It is also instructive to see riots from 130 years ago; at least they had valid complaints and didn't attack sculptures of founding fathers, unlike the Maoists of today.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at June 21, 2020 09:21 AM (XUyTm)

The Edge of Anarchy: The Railroad Barons, the Gilded Age, and the Greatest Labor Uprising in America

The Edge of Anarchy by Jack Kelly offers a vivid account of the greatest uprising of working people in American history. At the pinnacle of the Gilded Age, a boycott of Pullman sleeping cars by hundreds of thousands of railroad employees brought commerce to a standstill across much of the country. Famine threatened, riots broke out along the rail lines. Soon the U.S. Army was on the march and gunfire rang from the streets of major cities.

This epochal tale offers fascinating portraits of two iconic characters of the age. George Pullman, who amassed a fortune by making train travel a pleasure, thought the model town that he built for his workers would erase urban squalor. Eugene Debs, founder of the nation’s first industrial union, was determined to wrench power away from the reigning plutocrats. The clash between the two men’s conflicting ideals pushed the country to what the U.S. Attorney General called “the ragged edge of anarchy.”

Many of the themes of The Edge of Anarchy could be taken from today’s headlines—upheaval in America’s industrial heartland, wage stagnation, breakneck technological change, and festering conflict over race, immigration, and inequality. With the country now in a New Gilded Age, this look back at the violent conflict of an earlier era offers illuminating perspectives along with a breathtaking story of a nation on the edge.

This does sound interesting. The Kindle edition is $14.99, so you might want to check your local library.


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I've seen Richard Hooker's M*A*S*H novels mentioned here from time to me. Here's a more complete discussion e-mailed to me from moron bensdad00:

Been a while since I found something worth sharing, but the three M*A*S*H* books written by Richard Hooker (Mash, Mash goes to Maine and Mash Mania) present a starkly different world through a better cast of characters then the libtard tv show gave us - just another example of Hollywood screwing up a fundamentally conservative property. Especially in the third volume Hawkeye, Duke, and Spearchucker (and of COURSE the liberal TV producers whitewashed the cast) talk like real people, curse a blue streak to make Archie Bunker proud, and exhibit the fundamentally conservative principles of personal charity and an aversion to and distrust of government in all its forms. Someone get Nick Searcy the rights to these books.

The TV show was basically a liberal commentary/critique/lampoon of the Vietnam War. The M*A*S*H writers and producers I've seen interviewed admit this.

There are a bunch of other M*A*S*H books out there, M*A*S*H in Rome, M*A*S*H in Vienna, M*A*S*H in Paris, and other cities. But here's an interesting little fact:

I bought them in a bulk lot along with the dozen! tv exploitation sequels that came out in a three year period from 75-77, I'll be plowing through those so you don't have to and reporting back later - I don't hold out much hope but there is a wee glimmer - the co-author of those (and actual author in all sense except name) is William E Butterworth III. - - more famous with one of his other pen names as WEB Griffin.

Only the first M*A*S*H book is out in eBook:

Mash: A Novel About Three Army Doctors

I think Mash Mania and the other M*A*S*H books are OOP.

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If you like, you can follow me on Twitter, where I make the occasional snarky comment.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.



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1 Hah

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 08:47 AM (w6A0l)

2 Ok I'll nood

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 08:47 AM (w6A0l)

3 Joan Fontaine

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 08:48 AM (ONvIw)

4 Schoene Bibliothek!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 28, 2020 08:49 AM (PiwSw)

5 Can't believe I'm this early. . . .

Posted by: FIIGMO at June 28, 2020 08:50 AM (Qf08A)

6 I wonder how many fans she lost when Marie Kondo made that idiotic statement.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 28, 2020 08:50 AM (PiwSw)

7 Booken Morgen Horden

Posted by: vmom 2020 at June 28, 2020 08:51 AM (WwTwF)

8
30 books Marie? WTF? Is this woman some sort of lunatic?

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at June 28, 2020 08:52 AM (YdyjY)

9 Currently reading David Weber's three book series that starts with 'A Beautiful Friendship'. It is about Honor Harrington' ancestor who first discovered the Treecats.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2020 08:53 AM (mpXpK)

10 I adore the wrought iron(?) in that library!

the girl in the painting has the most intriguing expression - lovely painting

the who dis photo is marred by Marx being at the bottom of the stack

Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 28, 2020 08:53 AM (WwTwF)

11 Kafkatrap:

No black people left in San Francisco so no racism.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 28, 2020 08:53 AM (EZebt)

12 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at June 28, 2020 08:54 AM (KnJdm)

13 Nice Lieberry!

Those pants seem nice.

The Who Dis is Anita Hoargarth after she went downtown and spent a quarter and had a rat gnaw that thing off her face.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2020 08:55 AM (Z+IKu)

14 Tolle Lege
I love that spiral stair case.
Am getting a few chapters a day on Dennis Prager's Rational Bible Genesis.

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2020 08:55 AM (6f16T)

15 Read nothing enlightening this week. Looking at my CS Lewis Mere Christianity and it does not appear to be reading itself.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 28, 2020 08:56 AM (JFO2v)

16
Wait. Hmmmm looks around room..... yep, less than 30 books per shelf....

That must be what Marie Kondo was talking about...

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at June 28, 2020 08:56 AM (YdyjY)

17 I mentioned this the other day in some other thread, but speaking of timely books, get yourself a copy of Eric Hoffer's book THE TRUE BELIEVER: THOUGHTS ON THE NATURE OF MASS MOVEMENTS, first published, I believe, in 1951. Very instructive in this particular time.

Posted by: FIIGMO at June 28, 2020 08:56 AM (Qf08A)

18 from the library I checked out Wheelock's Latin and I'm browsing through the pages

Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 28, 2020 08:58 AM (WwTwF)

19 Been a while since I found something worth sharing, but the three
M*A*S*H* books written by Richard Hooker (Mash, Mash goes to Maine and
Mash Mania) present a starkly different world through a better cast of
characters then the libtard tv show gave us - just another example of
Hollywood screwing up a fundamentally conservative property. Especially
in the third volume Hawkeye, Duke, and Spearchucker (and of COURSE the
liberal TV producers whitewashed the cast) talk like real people, curse a
blue streak to make Archie Bunker proud, and exhibit the fundamentally
conservative principles of personal charity and an aversion to and
distrust of government in all its forms. Someone get Nick Searcy the
rights to these books.


The first season of Mash was OK as it emphasized comedy. It wne t sh*t after Allen Alda took over.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2020 08:59 AM (mpXpK)

20 Sydney Powell's new book is out

CONVICTION MACHINE Standing Up to Federal Prosecutorial Abuse

Sydney Powell and Harvey A. Silvergate

Kindle version $14.99
Hardcover $18.34

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at June 28, 2020 08:59 AM (EMi53)

21 I love the picture of the knitting child taking time out for a book.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 08:59 AM (ONvIw)

22 30 books Marie? WTF? Is this woman some sort of lunatic?
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin

I think she used to be some kind of Shinto nun or something

Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 28, 2020 08:59 AM (WwTwF)

23 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 09:00 AM (arJlL)

24 When he wasn’t writing extremely long poems, Lord Goth spent his time riding his hobby horse Pegasus around the grounds and taking potshots at the garden ornaments with a blunderbuss. Before long he had acquired a reputation for being mad, bad, and dangerous to gnomes.

--- from “Goth Girl” by Chris Riddell

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 09:00 AM (Dc2NZ)

25 ok gotta go

bbl

Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 28, 2020 09:00 AM (WwTwF)

26 I used to love those Calvin and Hobbs cartoons.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2020 09:01 AM (mpXpK)

27 Dame Judith Anderson?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 09:02 AM (Dc2NZ)

28 Who is the Kondo bitch and why should I care?

Between the grandsons and myself, I bought 30 books last month and that's the hardcopies.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 09:02 AM (ONvIw)

29 Will all citizens please bring their copies of Strunk and White to the nearest disintegrator.

Your cooperation is appreciated.

Posted by: Year Zero Cleanup Committee at June 28, 2020 09:02 AM (PiwSw)

30 While in the army in Germany, I'd take the train to Munchen and walk endless miles, wish I had known about the beautiful library.

Posted by: Colin at June 28, 2020 09:02 AM (PWsjb)

31 Somewhat early

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 28, 2020 09:03 AM (dQF3z)

32 the who dis photo is marred by Marx being at the bottom of the stack--
Signifies Civilization built on the backs of the people.

Posted by: FrodoB-
Trying again at June 28, 2020 09:05 AM (dQF3z)

33 Parents took us to the movie MASH when it came out, bonus Sally Kellerman boobs

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 28, 2020 09:05 AM (eKTVr)

34 When we were in Europe it never occurred to us to seek out the libraries. I really don't think you could vacay long enough to see everything anyways.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:06 AM (w6A0l)

35 f DiAngelo accuses you of racism or fragility and you disagree with her in any way-through argument, silence, or withdrawal-your reaction is considered proof of your fragility.


Sounds like proof of her fragility.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2020 09:06 AM (oVJmc)

36 I mentioned this the other day in some other thread, but speaking of timely books, get yourself a copy of Eric Hoffer's book THE TRUE BELIEVER: THOUGHTS ON THE NATURE OF MASS MOVEMENTS, first published, I believe, in 1951. Very instructive in this particular time.
Posted by: FIIGMO at June 28, 2020 08:56 AM (Qf08A)

Seconded. It's very good.

Posted by: Vanya at June 28, 2020 09:06 AM (BAsqb)

37 Almost.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 28, 2020 09:06 AM (oVJmc)

38 Joan Fontaine!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 09:07 AM (rpbg1)

39 I'd never before noticed that MASH was by a Richard Hooker. To me, of course, that name means the greatest Anglican theologian, author of The Laws of the Ecclesiastical Polity. Kept me Anglican for over a decade before I gave up. Also C S Lewis's favorite theologian, clearly.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:08 AM (LMs+g)

40 My mother was like Marie Kondo in her approach to books.

She generally read dime-store romances, broke their spines while doing so (no need for a bookmark) and then threw them away.

I eventually prevailed upon her to set them in back so I could take them to Curious Books and sell them for 25-50 apiece. Not much, but each month it was enough to buy some used paperbacks for me, often of the sci-fi or history variety.

Later on, she became a member of a library board and now the taxpayers pay for her collection. A point of friction between her and my father was that he is a dedicated book collector and she hated his "clutter."

His second wife has no problem with it, so he has a massive collection. Everything works out in the end, I guess.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 09:09 AM (cfSRQ)

41 the who dis photo is marred by Marx being at the bottom of the stack
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 28, 2020 08:53 AM (WwTwF)
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On the bright side, it makes it less likely that anyone will bother to dig it out.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:10 AM (LMs+g)

42 The real problem with MASH is that Jamie Farr isn't really a tranny like Klinger and plus it's transphobic.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 09:11 AM (+y/Ru)

43 Anyway, first week of summer vacation left me largely reading to the grandsons. Reading aloud to them is a good thing, especially as the books had few distracting pictures.

Kid 2 was here all week and watched some Poirot episodes. I had to reread one of those books just to explain how much they changed and why I didn't like the revisions. I understood that feminist BS demands the change, but I didn't like it.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 09:11 AM (ONvIw)

44 Joan Fontaine
Posted by: CN

Who's the dead guy holding the feather ?

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 09:12 AM (arJlL)

45 Who Dis looks like Garbo.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 09:13 AM (cfSRQ)

46 33 Parents took us to the movie MASH when it came out, bonus Sally Kellerman boobs
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at June 28, 2020 09:05 AM (eKTVr)
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Some years ago I was talking to two other guys, and got arguing with one of them whether the movie or the TV show was better. I ended it with "Sally Kellerman is better looking than Loretta Swit, and she's naked."

The 3rd guy just said "George wins."

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:13 AM (LMs+g)

47
My only consolation is that woke generally eats woke

When the Stalinists were shooting the Trotskyites, ordinary Russians were still being sent off to the Kolyma.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 28, 2020 09:13 AM (mht8P)

48 The first season of Mash was OK as it emphasized comedy. It wne t sh*t after Allen Alda took over.
Posted by: Vic a

yep

After they turned it into The Alan Alda Show.

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 09:14 AM (arJlL)

49 Who's the dead guy holding the feather ?
Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 09:12 AM (arJlL)

No clue. Should be Bulwer-Lytton, but I doubt it.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 09:14 AM (ONvIw)

50 How did that library survive WWII?

Posted by: common sense at June 28, 2020 09:14 AM (UCCfH)

51 Those stupid cracker ass whiteys are fragile and yet I see we now have to eliminate the term "master bedroom" because ... well, you know.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 09:15 AM (+y/Ru)

52 Just finished what I thought to be an awesome book; Travelers in the Third Reich by Julia Boyd.
It was a recommended read on a different thread by ParanoidGirlinSeattle. It really fills in what was going on in Europe at the time leading up to and including the war. There is so much history I have forgotten that this book filled in information I had not known or forgotten. Its a very interesting and easy read. You really see why the Nazis came to power. Its also an interesting parallel to what the Left is doing today in our country. The Left calls us Nazis, but it is truly the Left that are the Nazis. They just haven't consolidated their power and named a leader.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:15 AM (w6A0l)

53 I am also reading a few Greek plays these days. I reread The Bacchae and Medea. One of my favorite mandatory classes back in the day was the Humanities classes. I found a prof who liked the ancient Greeks and stuck with her classes

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 09:16 AM (ONvIw)

54 Unfortunately, my interaction with books has turned less to reading them than digging them out of piles, sorting by size, and boxing them. We have decided to move. While we're going to hire movers, this stage we want to do a lot ourselves. Besides, the books really are barriers to parts of the house we haven't been to in months.

Especially in the room I now occupy, which my wife calls "The He Man Woman Haters' Club." Beats "Man Cave."

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:17 AM (LMs+g)

55 re: kafkatrap- to accuse someone of an -ism


Makes me wonder: If someone seeks to create a deep rift between two elements of society, would they be guilty of schismism?

Posted by: Muldoon at June 28, 2020 09:17 AM (Fc5rx)

56 OM, I am so sorry you lost the Time books from your parents. I think many of us have thought something treasured would be left for us, only to discover after our parents' death, that one of them had discarded it. In my own case, it was such sadness when I realized it was gone.

Posted by: EveR at June 28, 2020 09:18 AM (R0z7P)

57 Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:15 AM (w6A0l)

Sounds like a good rec. Thanks

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 09:18 AM (ONvIw)

58
g'mornin', book-ish 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2020 09:19 AM (R0tTw)

59 We had several of the Time book anthologies when I was a kid. The WWII was my favorite. Of ccourse, if Time did that series now, it would be all about race, misogyny, (USA) war crimes, and the evil unleashed by the Enola Gay.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at June 28, 2020 09:19 AM (d9Cw3)

60 I'm here.

(Looks around) how did I get here so early?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 28, 2020 09:20 AM (QzF6i)

61 Odd, I was just watching The DarkHorse Podcast on Kafka Traps; White Fragility and #BLM
https://tinyurl.com/ybwaap7y
Bret Weinstein and Wife discuss the infiltration of Marxist ideas into every corner of our society.

I read/skimmed Rules for Retrogrades which was mentioned here last week I think. Took some good from it, a little Catholic-centric. It reminded me of The Hidden Truth by Hans Schantz (who I think recommended it) wherein some college students fight a Marxist/SJW takeover of campus (among other things, it's a good series, recommended).

Hans if you're there, I tried emailing to ask if you had any more supporting material on fighting this sort of social takeover, but my email bounced. I've already read most of the recommended items in afterword of the Hidden Truth books.

I also read The Mind Virus, about Memes, their spread and replication through the collective thoughtspace of society. It was fairly interesting, and oddly had many conservative/libertarian mentions/tells.

Posted by: .87c at June 28, 2020 09:21 AM (T6Fbb)

62 I hope the Kondo fad has fizzled out. Thirty books isn't even the seed of a good library.

I opened the AoS page today, and actually gasped when I saw the photo of that gorgeous library.

Time to go to church. Have a great Sunday.

Posted by: Flyover at June 28, 2020 09:22 AM (Rbu5d)

63 Makes me wonder: If someone seeks to create a deep rift between two elements of society, would they be guilty of schismism?

Posted by: Muldoon at June 28, 2020 09:17 AM (Fc5rx)

Yeah....a splitterist.

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2020 09:22 AM (X/Pw5)

64
My parents evidently had subscribed to the TIME (magazine) reading program back in the day before it had degenerated into just another progressive sock puppet and we had several bookshelves full of these TIME editions. I think you subscribed annually and got a new one every month.

TiIME Nature series, Science series, World War II series. Grew up reading them. Good memories. Ours disappeared as well. Or maybe my brother has them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 28, 2020 09:22 AM (mht8P)

65 Finished The Plot Against America by Philip Roth, after hearing about it here. It's an alternate history novel in which the narrator, Philip Roth himself, watches from age 8 onward as Charles Lindbergh becomes president in 1940, signs peace pacts with Germany and Japan, and (according to Roth the narrator and his parents) allows the formation of an anti-Semitic, Fascist government in America and of a pogrom against American Jews.

I don't recommend it, and it's certainly not for science fiction fans. For one thing, Roth's style is annoying, with long sentences forming narration and not much dialog. In the second place, like a lot of literary authors who attempt at SF, he has a good idea but doesn't follow through enough on it. His alternate America ends with, guess what, Japan bombing Pearl Harbor in December of '42 instead of '41. How original.

And he gives this climax away far too early, in a long narration which is pretty much the most interesting part of the novel, then returns to the lives of his characters for an abrupt ending. I was going, "What? That's it?"

I have not been able to get through the novel The Human Stain, and I tried American Pastoral and gave up early. Apparently, despite all his awards, he is one of those authors whose stuff makes better movies than books.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 09:22 AM (rpbg1)

66
Yeah....a splitterist.
Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2020 09:22 AM (X/Pw5)


The proper term is "splitationist". Only a schismatic would use "splitterist".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 28, 2020 09:23 AM (mht8P)

67 Makes me wonder: If someone seeks to create a deep rift between two elements of society, would they be guilty of schismism?

Posted by: Muldoon

Driving to the Supe this AM, I wondered if they put dead mooses in a Moosaleum.

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 09:23 AM (arJlL)

68 "if you're going to have a zipper that big, you'd better have something to back it up with"

Miss me yet?

Posted by: Eric Von Zipper at June 28, 2020 09:24 AM (DMUuz)

69 Book Update: The draft is at the test readers, feedback good so far, waiting to see just how ugly the corrections list is going to be.

Next up: formatting, maps and index. I'm used to doing graphics (Conqueror has diagrams on just about every page), but the index is something new and sinister.

Still, with any luck I'll have this puppy published by the middle of July. That would mean the project went from initiation to completion in little over two months.

Not bad.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 09:24 AM (cfSRQ)

70 Miss me yet?
Posted by: Eric Von Zipper at June 28, 2020 09:24 AM (DMUuz)

Beach Blanket BINGO!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:24 AM (w6A0l)

71 Who Dis woman has a preternaturally high arched and lengthy left eyebrow.




(Put THAT in your Word Power pipe and smoke it)

Posted by: Muldoon at June 28, 2020 09:25 AM (Fc5rx)

72 A few months back, someone mentioned readying Taylor's The Origins of the Second World War and wondering why it was considered somewhat scandalous. I just finished reading it. The only think I can figure is it makes the Allied powers look none too virtuous and Hitler doesn't seem evil. Sure, he's a bully and not to be trusted. But, he doesn't have world conquest on his mind. Anyways, it was an interesting read.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 28, 2020 09:25 AM (bmDHY)

73 Ideally, keep fewer than 30 words written by Marie Kondo.

Posted by: pst314 at June 28, 2020 09:25 AM (ohV1V)

74 I read The Initiate by James Cambias this week. When the main character had to pick an alias he chose......Ace. Hmmmm

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 28, 2020 09:25 AM (QzF6i)

75 COOL EVENT OF THE WEEK:

I sent an email to Stanley G. Payne's academic account at U of Wisconsin, and he wrote back!

Very cool. I mentioned I was a fan and writing my own book and he wished me the best of luck and suggest a new title that only came out in April.

Payne is the best author I've found dealing with Spain, so that email shall be cast in bronze.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 09:26 AM (cfSRQ)

76 I did finish March to Kandahar (Rodney Atwood). I mentioned it earlier as one that I got for my b-day. Not terrible, but lacking IMO. One thing I expect from a military history dealing with that level is several OBs. And there are none.

E.g., Roberts's force for the march itself is described only as 3 brigades of infantry and one of cavalry. Actual units are not mentioned, unless in passing in the text. But that way it's sometimes hard to tell which force they were part of.

The maps are also less than ideal; often places mentioned as significant are not shown.

Decent writing, though, despite a small amount of PC seeping in. Imagine a Victorian general believing in the Empire. Haven't yet seen Bobs cited as a statue which has to go, yet. But surely will be.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:26 AM (LMs+g)

77 Just finished what I thought to be an awesome book; Travelers in the Third Reich by Julia Boyd.

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One interesting anecdote was a upper class Brit woman who was so impressed with how cultured and civilized a particular German general (von Reichenau?) was who a few years later was shooting Jews at Babi Yar.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 09:26 AM (+y/Ru)

78 I mentioned this the other day in some other thread, but speaking of timely books, get yourself a copy of Eric Hoffer's book THE TRUE BELIEVER: THOUGHTS ON THE NATURE OF MASS MOVEMENTS, first published, I believe, in 1951. Very instructive in this particular time.

When I was a boy, Grandfather Poppins had a weekly appointment with a chiropractor and would bring me along. The man, Dr Bain, was very well-educated and, since Grandfather was always the last patient of the day, the two of them would sit and discuss politics, history and all sorts of things.

One day, Dr Bain gave me a copy of The True Believer, telling me that Hoffer was a brilliant man who was a dock worker in real life and wrote his books in his spare time.

I've loved to read Hoffer ever since. A very underappreciated writer.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2020 09:26 AM (2JVJo)

79 Calvin & Hobbes is spot on and I love WEB Griffin books.. Have read all the Corps, Brotherhood of War, and Presidential Agent books. All fascinating in their own right.

Oh and Good Morning...

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at June 28, 2020 09:26 AM (+ldAm)

80 Ok, I looked up Kondo..who cares what an "organizing consultant" says about anything, let alone books?

She sounds like a reverse hoarder. Her comment about a mysterious voice telling her to throw away stuff, makes her seem like a candidate for a neuroleptic.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 09:27 AM (ONvIw)

81 30 books Marie? WTF? Is this woman some sort of lunatic?

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at June 28, 2020 08:52 AM (YdyjY)

I agree that she needs some psychiatric help. One can never have enough books.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 28, 2020 09:28 AM (bmDHY)

82 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at June 28, 2020 09:28 AM (7EjX1)

83 Just finished what I thought to be an awesome book; Travelers in the Third Reich by Julia Boyd.

I give that book a thumbs up, too. Fascinating.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2020 09:28 AM (2JVJo)

84 56 OM, I am so sorry you lost the Time books from your parents. I think many of us have thought something treasured would be left for us, only to discover after our parents' death, that one of them had discarded it. In my own case, it was such sadness when I realized it was gone.
Posted by: EveR at June 28, 2020 09:18 AM (R0z7P)
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My mother threw out several boxes of the Naval Institute Proceedings, after dad died. Ouch.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:28 AM (LMs+g)

85 Morning, all. Good to "see" you.

Those pants are nightmarish.

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 09:29 AM (X1xq4)

86 Regarding the German law library, Jerome K. Jerome wrote in 1900 in Three Men on the Bummel:

"In Germany to-day one hears a good deal concerning Socialism, but it is a Socialism that would only be despotism under another name. Individualism makes no appeal to the German voter. He is willing, nay, anxious to be controlled and regulated in all things. 'You get yourself born,' says the German Government to the German citizen, 'we do the rest. Indoors and out of doors, in sickness and in health, in pleasure and in work, we will tell you what to do, and we will see to it that you do it. Don't you worry yourself about anything'. And the German Doesn't."

Not much about that has changed from the Kaiser to the Fuhrer to Merkel.

Posted by: cool breeze at June 28, 2020 09:29 AM (UGKMd)

87 62 ......I opened the AoS page today, and actually gasped when I saw the photo of that gorgeous library.

Posted by: Flyover at June 28, 2020 09:22 AM (Rbu5d)

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German law books though. It's hard to think of a more tedious collection of words.

Posted by: Sir Ian Botham. at June 28, 2020 09:29 AM (89sl2)

88 I pride myself on my vocabulary but had to look up neuroleptic. Good one, CN.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 28, 2020 09:29 AM (QzF6i)

89 Who's the dead guy holding the feather ?

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 09:12 AM (arJlL)


Thing from the Addams Family

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2020 09:30 AM (2rIKM)

90 A few months back, someone mentioned readying Taylor's The Origins of the Second World War
and wondering why it was considered somewhat scandalous. I just
finished reading it. The only think I can figure is it makes the Allied
powers look none too virtuous and Hitler doesn't seem evil. Sure, he's a
bully and not to be trusted. But, he doesn't have world conquest on his
mind. Anyways, it was an interesting read.


Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 28, 2020 09:25 AM (bmDHY)

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Churchill proposed naming World War II "The Unnecessary War" since there were so many easy ways to have prevented it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)

91 What I hated about Plot against America Was the idea that the only reason anyone would vote against FdR was anti Semitism. It was presented as either you lurve FDR or you lurve Hitler. How about option 3? I hate FDR cuz he was a fucking socialist POS tht extended the Great Depression and laid the foundation for 50% of the country depending on govt today?

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 09:30 AM (aDgpc)

92 The wood work in that library is great and I love the fanciful metal works. Now if only it wasn't full of law books and held useful and enjoyable tomes.

Posted by: JTB at June 28, 2020 09:30 AM (7EjX1)

93 "Goth Girl" is a funny YA mystery set in an appropriately maze-like estate (called Ghastly-Gorm -- Gormenghast, get it?) with the requisite crumbling old wing and unexplored rooms. There are puns and riffs aplenty on the goth/regency tropes, from the Byronic widower father to the strange inhabitants and visitors (Mary Shellfish, the Monster, Charles Cabbage the inventor, etc.).

There are illustrations on almost every page, and the hardcover has foiled skull endpages and purple edging. Rather Goth.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 09:30 AM (Dc2NZ)

94 Since I missed the GAINZZ thread yesterday -

Book GAINZZ: none. Did write a scene I needed to write, but the rewriting of the whole first draft is still stuck. I can't get out of my own way, mentally, and haven't got myself in the right frame of mind to work. Must figure out a way to do it.

Physical GAINZZ: a surprise. Since I haven't been able to go out to drink, I have lost weight. Don't know how much, only that I am just able to fit into the dress pants I want to wear to the MoMe, so I need to drop 5-10 more between now and August.

Which reminds me I need to make my reservations today.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2020 09:31 AM (2JVJo)

95
Reading A Call to Arms by Maury Klein. It's a fascinating book about the trials and triumphs of America's industrial efforts during World War II.

No one seems to realize nowadays just how badly off we were before and entering the war. We had a pathetically small army with obsolete equipment and obsolete officers. Our air force was tiny, with planes like the Brewster Buffalo. We had no industrial base and no major research efforts.

From that we built a production colossus that equipped our army, the British army and the Russian army. Not only did we build it, we got it from the US to locations around the world; if there was one thing that gave military leaders nightmares, it was shipping.

An amazing story full of both triumphs and struggles. Recommended.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 28, 2020 09:31 AM (mht8P)

96 I'm going to give Marie Kondo a pass. I read her books (hmm, irony?) and in context of her broader philosophy it makes a sort of sense. You can take or leave her suggestions. She is helping her readers tackle the greater issue of hoarding and emotional attachment to things - rather, great quantities of things.

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 09:31 AM (X1xq4)

97 My favorite WWII series was the History of the WW II put out weekly in the early 70s by I think Cavendish publishing. It probably can't be beat as it was written by those who were there. It is detailed yet broken into small segments and believe its over a million words total. I have most many bought by me as a very young teenager ever week.

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2020 09:31 AM (6f16T)

98 The 50 Worst Books of the 20th Century




Those books are nothing but leftist garbage that has infected and sickened the Western world with its communist claptrap.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2020 09:32 AM (2rIKM)

99 Fear must be rampant in corporations for DiAngelo (White Fragility) to get away with this Heads-you-lose Tails-you-lose bullsh*t.

We need a John Galt at such a meeting/browbeating:
"'I will put an end to this, once and for all,' he said. His voice was clear and without feeling. That was all he said and started to walk out. He walked down the length of the place, in the white light, not hurrying and not noticing any of us. Nobody moved to stop him. Gerald Starnes cried suddenly after him, 'How?' He turned and answered, 'I will stop the motor of the world.' Then he walked out." - Jeff Allen, Atlas Shrugged

Posted by: FloridaMan at June 28, 2020 09:32 AM (vU2Np)

100
*throws away Marie Kondo's book*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 28, 2020 09:32 AM (mht8P)

101 OM,
Thanks for that painting of the little girl stealing time from her knitting to read. It is an effective and enchanting image.

Ditto for the Calvin and Hobbes at the end. The strip was pure genius. Glad I have the complete collection.

Posted by: JTB at June 28, 2020 09:34 AM (7EjX1)

102 Be nice to see the Linenhall Library in Belfast featured here sometime. It's supposedly significant historically or something.

Posted by: Sir Ian Botham. at June 28, 2020 09:34 AM (89sl2)

103 Reuters - Four arrested for damage to Andrew Jackson statue near White House

The protest came after crowds peacefully protesting the death of George
Floyd under the knee of a police officer in Minneapolis were forcibly
displaced three weeks ago to make way for staged photos of President
Donald Trump holding up a Bible in front of a historic nearby church.




Not only is this badly written it is pure leftist drivel. There is no difference between Reuters and HuffPo


Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2020 09:35 AM (2rIKM)

104 Oompa loompa loompaty doo
I've got a little ditty for you
Oompa loompa loompaty dee
Those pants are fine
Cause they will fit me.

Posted by: An Oompa Loompa at June 28, 2020 09:36 AM (3UCkL)

105 88 I pride myself on my vocabulary but had to look up neuroleptic. Good one, CN.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 28, 2020 09:29 AM (QzF6i)

I found that more people will take a medication if you call it a neuroleptic than if you call it an anti-psychotic. The little I've read about Kondo makes me thing that she's either a bullshit artist looking for a cash-making niche, or a psychotic. Probably the former, but the comment about voices and her "nervous breakdown" over clutter could make "psychotic" stick, too

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 09:36 AM (ONvIw)

106 Word learning for me this week: jibe

Also spelled "gibe" for its 16th century Old French roots. Which meant to handle roughly then.

It's one of those words that has multiple meanings depending on context.
So it's a noun and a verb regarding insults.

But then the Americans got a hold of it in the 19th century and started using it to mean agreement with.

Of course, there's another use, this one stolen from the 17th century Dutch, same spelling, a sailing term, both a noun and verb.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 28, 2020 09:37 AM (Efi2P)

107 Last time we moved, we decreased or sq footage by 50% so we got rid of a lot of things. Including books. A ton of them. FF a few years later nobody even knows theyre gone. Nobody was going to read them again so other than for decoration on walls there was no point in packing them up moving them (mover charge by weight and books are Heave AF) and unpacking them. Getting rid of stuff became a sport in and of its own. Every load I took to the county dump was liberating.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 09:37 AM (aDgpc)

108 I already put 2 books from this thread on hold - Hoffer and the 3rd Reich one
keep the recs coming

Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 28, 2020 09:38 AM (WwTwF)

109 What I hated about Plot against America Was the idea that the only reason anyone would vote against FdR was anti Semitism. It was presented as either you lurve FDR or you lurve Hitler. How about option 3? I hate FDR cuz he was a fucking socialist POS tht extended the Great Depression and laid the foundation for 50% of the country depending on govt today?

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020


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Yup. You could hear that "anti-Semitism is everywhere" axe being ground in every scene. I'll admit that Roth's portrait of Lindbergh himself seemed fair enough, and CL did not come off like a raving anti-Semite. In Roth's view, Burton Wheeler, CL's VP, is the one that really starts the pogrom program -- but only after CL has laid the groundwork.

The novel is instructive, though. If you flip the parties, a lot of what Roth aims at Lindbergh and the Republicans is dead true of Democrats today.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 09:38 AM (rpbg1)

110 61
Bret Weinstein and Wife discuss the infiltration of Marxist ideas into every corner of our society.
Posted by: .87c at June 28, 2020 09:21 AM (T6Fbb)
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That's more extensive, and goes further back than people realize. And it hits us all. E.g., almost everyone - including our side included - buys into a class-conflict centered view of history. It's pervasive. (As is a developmental historicism.)

Two of my favorite historians, N A M Rodger and J H Hexter questioned it. And I was initially puzzled, but then convinced. Roger at one point snarks that an era when "the middle class was, as usual, rising to a new prominence."

Which raises the one point, original to Marx (I think) that may have something to it. That is the distinction between a "class in itself" and a "class for itself". The former being the "objective" existence of the class, the latter referring to the class as self-conscious of itself as a class. That "in itself", to my mind, is the only sense in which classes make sense. Groups which have a consciousness of themselves as distinct from the rest.

But think about it. If it makes sense, it is contrary to Marxism, for it is taking seriously something that, by Marx's own model, is mere "ideology" or "superstructure", and thus has no real existence. So the only point he makes that I can see some sense in actually undercuts his system.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:38 AM (LMs+g)

111 I'm going to give Marie Kondo a pass. I read her
books (hmm, irony?) and in context of her broader philosophy it makes a
sort of sense. You can take or leave her suggestions. She is helping her
readers tackle the greater issue of hoarding and emotional attachment
to things - rather, great quantities of things.

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 09:31 AM (X1xq4)

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Agreed.

Hoarding is a problem, even in my family. For us a lot of it came down to being poor for years after I lost my job and so we held onto stuff because it might be useful later. As we recovered financially, we lost that mentality and began to look at what we would realistically use, which got rid of lots of clutter.

In terms of books, I know I'm in a very unpopular minority but I will discard books that are proven to have zero artistic or reference merit. I went through a bunch of my books on firearms and weapons and donated the ones that I now knew were objectively false.

Yes, authors writing on guns, tanks, aircraft and ships get things wrong, often because they are simply cribbing from other mistaken works. Some of those books had pretty pictures, but I have other books with pretty pictures. What I want is accurate information and they were found wanting.

I do make exceptions for books that got stuff wrong because they were written close to the events. That's useful. But a lot of these were bargain-shelf bookstore specials that I got as gifts from relatives who knew I liked tanks and such. I appreciated the thought, but I'd rather that space was better used.

Also, someday I will shrug off this mortal coil and I want to make it easy for my kids. This way they know that what dad has is worth keeping, rather than the result of an inability to sort wheat from chaff.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 09:39 AM (cfSRQ)

112 My vote for "Worst Book" is Howard Zinn's "People's History of the United States". It is being used NOW to pollute students' minds.

Posted by: FloridaMan at June 28, 2020 09:39 AM (vU2Np)

113 Over a hundred posts now, so....

After the three year old boy and one year old baby girl murdered in Chicago gang violence this week, it appears a 10 year old girl fell victim to gang thuggery as well.

That's three kids included the 11 (& rising) mudred in Chicago since Friday. All Black.

Who do these lives matter to again?
I think I might be missing the point here or something but it doesn't seem that BLM give a singular fuck how many children are murdered.

Posted by: Sir Ian Botham. at June 28, 2020 09:40 AM (89sl2)

114 The revolutionary LARPers tried again to go into a residential neighborhood in Beverly Hills Friday night and burn down some celebs. Once again they got shut down immediately. Funny how that works.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 28, 2020 09:40 AM (6XLoz)

115 Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 09:37 AM (aDgpc)

Last time I moved...10 yrs ago...I rented a 20yd dumpster...tossed lots of stuff.

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2020 09:40 AM (X/Pw5)

116 On the movie thread last night, authors Neal Stephenson and Glen Cook were compared. I can speak for having enjoyed Stephenson. Cyptonomicon was a mind-changing experience for me, both in the way it was written as well as the content (somewhat dated now).

But Quicksilver, the first book of the Baroque Cycle - if you haven't had a chance, check it out. Historical fiction that is at heart a comedy, I was in awe of Stephenson's complete grasp of all that was going on across the world at the time (1650's and 1660's), and all that had gone before. It's mostly set in Europe, with forays into the New World and India (that may have been in a sequel), but much of its setting is London. The level of detail is astonishing. That Stephenson wrote the entire book in longhand is even more impressive, because it's pretty long.

Has anyone here read Glen Cook? I am unfamiliar with him. Where would be the best place to start?

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 09:41 AM (X1xq4)

117 There's a kafkatrap in my pants.

Posted by: Jerry "Comedy Gold" Nadless at June 28, 2020 09:41 AM (EgshT)

118 As for reading - I re-read The Killer Angels a couple of weeks back, which put me on a mini-Civil War bender. I have been slowly going through Volume 1 of Shelby Foote, which, oddly, I find easier to read on a kindle than holding the actual, thick book in my lap.

I'm also reading Margaret Leech's Reveille in Washington, which is one of those books I'vehad for years and never picked up.

And I'm just finishing Christopher Hibbert's bio of Edward VII. Good, but not the first book I would recommend to anyone if they were interested in the King.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2020 09:41 AM (2JVJo)

119 Libraries still locked. Found a used book shop reopened!
Tiny paths tween dusty floor to ceiling haphazazd shelves. Been open since 1960? But, of course, closing this year. Curses. May take a year to disperse. Got "Red Harvest" (Dashiel Hammett) going with coffee. Ahhhh.

Posted by: getting the banned back together at June 28, 2020 09:41 AM (dn8VX)

120 I read a good (imo) alternative to the Plot Against America many years ago - the Farthing trilogy by Jo Walton

she's a typical leftist sf writer, so I don't know if it holds up, really

it's a detective mystery set in an alternate England where Neville Chamberlain achieved peace with Hitler, so they've gone soft Nazi

Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 28, 2020 09:41 AM (WwTwF)

121 I hadn't read Marie Kondo but I like/needed her *push*.
I can't throw anything away because I *might* need it.
I have turned that corner and am really being merciless about getting rid of stuff. It really is liberating.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:42 AM (w6A0l)

122 I love the Calvin and Hobbes cartoon.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 28, 2020 09:42 AM (yQpMk)

123 Churchill proposed naming World War II "The Unnecessary War" since there were so many easy ways to have prevented it.



Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)

One of Taylor's main contentions is that France and Britain either needed to follow a policy appeasement or force in Eastern Europe. They tried both and made a mess of things. He also points out that Britain agreed with a lot of the complaints Germany had over the WWI resolution. On the one hand, you had the Entente powers talking about population self-determination. Meanwhile, you had large German populations that wanted to be part of Germany, but spread across several countries. The whole situation was untenable.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 28, 2020 09:42 AM (bmDHY)

124 Over the years I've mentioned those MASH books (MASH, MASH Goes To Maine, and MASH Mania) written by Hooker. They are a delight, especially the second two. They are vignettes with a little continuity of characters and they contain humor, a bit of political commentary, and some very emotional aspects that can still bring a tear after any number of readings. And yes, I can hear the Maine accents while I read. Ayup!

The MASH Goes to XXX (fill in the city) books are silly but fun and have nowhere near the emotional aspects of the first three. The unrelenting, over the top silliness does have a bit of charm.

Posted by: JTB at June 28, 2020 09:42 AM (7EjX1)

125 “Brightly Burning”, a retelling of Jane Eyre in spa-a-a-a-ace by Alex Donne, was a pleasant diversion.

Also reading an early trilogy of novellas written by the granddaddy of literary SF, Samuel R. Delaney, when he was but 22 years old - “The Fall of the Towers”. Technical and telepathic powers are being deployed in an intergalactic war that is going to be settled on post-apocalyptic Earth. Whatever. It's very non-linear and one can get whiplash going back and forth through time and space, but even at a young age Delaney writes plushly, so I'm just along for the ride.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 09:42 AM (Dc2NZ)

126 Last time we moved, we decreased or sq footage by 50% so we got rid of a lot of things. Including books. A ton of them.

Posted by: Hot-gas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 09:37 AM (aDgpc)

Same here when we moved. I donated a lot to the local library, but they may have ended up in the dump for all I know. It hurt to do this, but it had to be done.

Posted by: FloridaMan at June 28, 2020 09:43 AM (vU2Np)

127 I've got a twofer! I've been reading The Bookseller's Tale by Ann Swinfen. It's a murder mystery set in Oxford, England, circa 1355. In addition to being a mystery, it gives a good description of how difficult producing books was prior to Gutenberg. A rare and valuable book is the McGuffin.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 09:43 AM (+y/Ru)

128 You really see why the Nazis came to power. Its also an interesting parallel to what the Left is doing today in our country. The Left calls us Nazis, but it is truly the Left that are the Nazis. They just haven't consolidated their power and named a leader.
Posted by: Cheriebebe

I will have to read the book. A friend here was mentioning that Goebels was fond of book burning. Things Nazis felt were subversive he burned. Based on our conversation, this friend sent an email to his friends in Denmark today, reminding them of this. Some of the books on his email/list surprised me, Jack London for example, and then others, Proust, HG Wells. Cancel culture...hmmm.

Posted by: MikeM at June 28, 2020 09:44 AM (2NENR)

129 86 Regarding the German law library, Jerome K. Jerome wrote in 1900 in Three Men on the Bummel:

"In Germany to-day one hears a good deal concerning Socialism, but it is a Socialism that would only be despotism under another name. Individualism makes no appeal to the German voter. He is willing, nay, anxious to be controlled and regulated in all things. 'You get yourself born,' says the German Government to the German citizen, 'we do the rest. Indoors and out of doors, in sickness and in health, in pleasure and in work, we will tell you what to do, and we will see to it that you do it. Don't you worry yourself about anything'. And the German Doesn't."

Not much about that has changed from the Kaiser to the Fuhrer to Merkel.
Posted by: cool breeze at June 28, 2020 09:29 AM (UGKMd)
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At the very end, IIRC, he has a comment that the Germans are fine so long as they have a good government, such is their trust in it. But if the government goes bad on them, look out.

Funny passage about German kids along that line, and also a brilliant chapter on German Law. (The former may be part of the latter, now I think of it.) The whole book is very good, as is it's predecessor, Three Men On A Boat (Not To Mention The Dog).

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:45 AM (LMs+g)

130 I've dug up a paperback I bought on AbeBooks a few years ago: Craig Rice's last novel, completed by Ed McBain, The April Robin Murders (1959). Two roving photographers from New York (heroes, apparently, of at least one earlier Rice mystery) move to Hollywood in search of better things. They wind up buying a house that, according to their informant, the salesman, used to belong to movie star April Robin. And there's a hint that something valuable may be buried there. . . .

Rice was known as a comic mystery writer; her situations were solid, with real murders and real amateur detection, but including screwball comedy elements. It's hard to find anything at all by her even in old paperback stores.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 09:45 AM (rpbg1)

131 Something that I do highly recommend and truly appreciate is the vast collections of books available on line thru our local library. It saves me money. Is very easy to use, allows me to ignore Amazon AND it doesn't contribute to my clutter. Win-win I say!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:45 AM (w6A0l)

132 118
As for reading - I re-read The Killer Angels a couple of weeks
back, which put me on a mini-Civil War bender.



Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2020 09:41 AM (2JVJo)

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The kid's sequels were terrible, but that book is great. It's not just the perspective but the description of the roads, the dust, food - it really brings the event alive.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 09:46 AM (cfSRQ)

133
Even though it's necessary, the painful thing about getting rid of books (and, in my case, LPs) is that I can remember where I purchased each one of them and the pleasure I felt when I bought it. I feel like I'm killing a good friend.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 28, 2020 09:46 AM (mht8P)

134 The latest Muzzleloader magazine arrived on Friday. Now begins the contest to see if I can stretch out the reading for at least a week. The temptation with any of the magazines I subscribe to is to drop everything and read it cover to cover immediately.

Posted by: JTB at June 28, 2020 09:46 AM (7EjX1)

135 3 Joan Fontaine

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 08:48 AM (ONvIw)


You are correct, ma'am!


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 09:47 AM (4MFd8)

136 Wow! That isi.org is a treasure, OM!

They have a list of best books as well as worst books, and they invite college students to join a community of people who are retaining sanity during their college years.

Posted by: Emmie at June 28, 2020 09:47 AM (clsJu)

137 The little I've read about Kondo makes me thing that she's either a bullshit artist looking for a cash-making niche
_______

Isn't that pretty much the definition of "consultant"? (Not that it excludes psychotics.)

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:48 AM (LMs+g)

138 At the very end, IIRC, he has a comment that the
Germans are fine so long as they have a good government, such is their
trust in it. But if the government goes bad on them, look out.



Funny passage about German kids along that line, and also a
brilliant chapter on German Law. (The former may be part of the latter,
now I think of it.) The whole book is very good, as is it's predecessor,
Three Men On A Boat (Not To Mention The Dog).

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:45 AM (LMs+g)

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I like Churchill's aphorism: The German is at your throat or at your feet.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 09:48 AM (cfSRQ)

139 Who's the dead guy holding the feather ?
Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 09:12 AM (arJlL)
~~~~~

Thing.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 28, 2020 09:49 AM (sGotD)

140 Thing from the Addams Family
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 28, 2020 09:30 AM (2rIKM)
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Whoops! I should refresh more frequently.

Posted by: IrishEi at June 28, 2020 09:50 AM (sGotD)

141 30 books Marie? WTF? Is this woman some sort of lunatic?

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at June 28, 2020 08:52 AM (YdyjY)

In a way, yes. Tidying is her life. She says in her book that it has been since she was a child and had/has no other hobby. She is not a Reader or a Maker and so has *no* understanding of what is needed to be one.

Her book isn't useless, but it does come from a very narrow view.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 28, 2020 09:50 AM (uquGJ)

142 I read a good (imo) alternative to the Plot Against America many years ago - the Farthing trilogy by Jo Walton

she's a typical leftist sf writer, so I don't know if it holds up, really

it's a detective mystery set in an alternate England where Neville Chamberlain achieved peace with Hitler, so they've gone soft Nazi
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 28, 2020


*
*

Now that might be interesting. At least she follows through on her concept and shows the result of the shift in timeline a ways down the road.

Connected in a way is the 1995 film of Richard the III, a modern (1930s) dress version of the play with Ian McKellen as Richard. The view of the play is that Richard takes over as king and institutes a rather Nazi-like rule over England. Very imaginative while still following Shakespeare's text.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 09:50 AM (rpbg1)

143 79
Calvin Hobbes is spot on and I love WEB Griffin books.. Have read
all the Corps, Brotherhood of War, and Presidential Agent books. All
fascinating in their own right.



Oh and Good Morning...

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at June 28, 2020 09:26 AM (+ldAm)

Oh and Good Morning...



Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at June 28, 2020 09:26 AM (+ldAm)


I
have read almost all of his books. Loved the series about the corps and
the Army. Didn't care too much for the Presidential agent series. The
series about the Philadelphia police department was good too.


Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2020 09:49 AM (mpXpK)

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2020 09:50 AM (mpXpK)

144 26 I used to love those Calvin and Hobbs cartoons.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2020 09:01 AM (mpXpK)


Are you implying that you no longer do so? I find that as I get older, my appreciation for Calvin and Hobbes keeps growing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 09:50 AM (4MFd8)

145 I already put 2 books from this thread on hold - Hoffer and the 3rd Reich one
keep the recs coming
Posted by: vmom 2020 -

Big Trouble - Dave Barry

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 09:50 AM (arJlL)

146 That's three kids included the 11 (& rising) mudred in Chicago since Friday. All Black.

Who do these lives matter to again?


In the town next to me, some people decided to hold a "Blue Lives Matter" rolling rally. Apparently, because some drivers had Trump signs, "All Lives Matter" signs and "Build The Wall" signs, the police chief slammed it as being a "racist" rally.

As he is quoted in this morning's paper: "The Methuen Police Department does not avow itself to the misguided doctrine of 'All Lives Matter.'"

I called the station this morning and said that if they really didn't believe my life mattered, then the Dems were right and their whole fucking department should be defunded and disbanded.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2020 09:51 AM (2JVJo)

147 121 I have turned that corner and am really being merciless about getting rid of stuff. It really is liberating.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:42 AM (w6A0l)

Yes - this exactly. On this thread particularly, someone each week laments having gotten more books to put on their "to read" list. I sympathize. I used to have such a stack. I had a very honest look at this stack as part of my cleaning process and all but one are gone.

My rule now is only if I know I'm going to refer to it again will I keep it. I don't collect fiction anymore because I'll never go back for a second read - there's too much other good stuff out there to waste time re-reading things.

The only exception I've made is for an actual collection I have of everything Robert Heinlein ever wrote. Kondo acknowledges those sorts of collections, understanding that's not just hoarding a bunch of things, rather that the collection itself is a special thing and meaningful in itself. Not that I need her permission...

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 09:51 AM (X1xq4)

148 There is another term we use for unfalsifiable beliefs: delusions.

Posted by: Grump928© at June 28, 2020 09:52 AM (yQpMk)

149 One of Taylor's main contentions is that France and Britain either needed to follow a policy appeasement or force in Eastern Europe.

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I've heard the opinion that the war really started when having been given the Sudetenland at Munich, Hitler invaded the rest of Czechoslovakia. The idea was that at that point the Allies knew that negotiations were pointless because Hitler wouldn't live up to his end of the bargain. Any similarity to our appeasement of the left is purely coincidental.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 09:52 AM (+y/Ru)

150 Who's the dead guy holding the feather ?
Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 09:12 AM (arJlL)
~~~~~

Thing.
Posted by: IrishEi

Okay; who's the dead guy holding the thing ?

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 09:52 AM (arJlL)

151 Some of the books on his email/list surprised me, Jack London for example, and then others, Proust, HG Wells. Cancel culture...hmmm.
Posted by: MikeM at June 28, 2020 09:44 AM (2NENR)

Book burning is talked about but only in general terms of what the books were that were burned. There are vague biases within the book of those who's stories are being told.
It really is reflective of today; the go along/get along theories, the subtle brainwashing/cancel activity. Its very interesting.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:52 AM (w6A0l)

152 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 09:00 AM (Dc2NZ)

That sounds hilarious.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 28, 2020 09:53 AM (uquGJ)

153 I hadn't read Marie Kondo but I like/needed her *push*.
I can't throw anything away because I *might* need it.
I have turned that corner and am really being merciless about getting rid of stuff. It really is liberating.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:42 AM (w6A0l)
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I can't read her because she doesn't understand that one of the kids *might* need it. I could probably stock two whole kitchens with what I have in the basement.

Whaddya mean you don't want Grandma's eggbeater?!

Posted by: IrishEi at June 28, 2020 09:53 AM (sGotD)

154 That worst 50 books list be rayciss, yo.

Posted by: Talcum X, Your Main Jheri Curl Man at June 28, 2020 09:53 AM (/fZv7)

155 Reading Stalin's Folly by Constantine Pleshakov, which postulates that one of the reasons Operation Barbarossa was initially so successful is that Stalin was preparing to invade Eastern Europe and Germany in early 1942, and thus had the bulk of his Western Armies and Air Forces snug up against the border with Germany (in newly divided) Poland. That positioning made it easy for Germany to destroy/encircle those forces in the first days of the OstKrieg. Interesting.

Also just picked up The Jewish Annotated New Testament, which is just what it sounds like. Jewish scholars annotating the Christian New Testament to add details of Jewish history and culture to the story to help Christians understand the context in which the events that are described occurred. Just getting started on it.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2020 09:55 AM (1YlHz)

156 I love the picture of the knitting child taking time out for a book.
Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 08:59 AM (ONvIw)

Agreed. The artist did a good job with showing the knitting too. Looks like a sock. Definitely something "in the round" on double pointed needles.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 28, 2020 09:55 AM (uquGJ)

157 133
Even though it's necessary, the painful thing about getting rid of books (and, in my case, LPs) is that I can remember where I purchased each one of them and the pleasure I felt when I bought it. I feel like I'm killing a good friend.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 28, 2020 09:46 AM (mht8P)

I have never felt the urge to purge belongings that I enjoy. Of course, space in not a problem for me at this time so I don't have to.

I do not have books lined up in piles blocking means of egress or movement and while my shelved may be "crowded", they are far from disorganized. I've yet to find any reason to participate in Kondo's behavior.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 09:55 AM (ONvIw)

158 I used to hold onto books even though I rarely reread a book. I did have the pleasure of seeing my sons read them before they ended up at the library annual book sale.
Noe I mostly read ebooks or books from the library but when I do buy something , I donate it to the library when I'm done in appreciation for all the free reading they provide.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 28, 2020 09:55 AM (QzF6i)

159 JT my library doesn't have that one on line. I'm going to have to keep searching.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:56 AM (w6A0l)

160 86 Regarding the German law library, Jerome K. Jerome wrote in 1900 in Three Men on the Bummel:

"In Germany to-day one hears a good deal concerning Socialism, but it is a Socialism that would only be despotism under another name. Individualism makes no appeal to the German voter. He is willing, nay, anxious to be controlled and regulated in all things. 'You get yourself born,' says the German Government to the German citizen, 'we do the rest. Indoors and out of doors, in sickness and in health, in pleasure and in work, we will tell you what to do, and we will see to it that you do it. Don't you worry yourself about anything'. And the German Doesn't."

Not much about that has changed from the Kaiser to the Fuhrer to Merkel.

Posted by: cool breeze at June 28, 2020 09:29 AM (UGKMd)


Not seeing the problem here.

Posted by: Otto von Bismarck at June 28, 2020 09:56 AM (4MFd8)

161 That sounds hilarious.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 28, 2020 09:53 AM (uquGJ)
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Check out some of the illustrations:

https://tinyurl.com/y9zrvsfx

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 09:56 AM (Dc2NZ)

162 JTB - I didn't think muzzleloaders had magazines :-)

Posted by: PabloD, cargo specialist for Aero Pinochet at June 28, 2020 09:56 AM (nauR4)

163 144 Are you implying that you no longer do so? I find that as I get older, my appreciation for Calvin and Hobbes keeps growing.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 09:50 AM (4MFd

No I still like them but I have read all of them at least twice now.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2020 09:57 AM (mpXpK)

164 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 28, 2020 09:55 AM (uquGJ)

Double pointed needles would be considered pretty advanced for a kid these days. It's hard to get them to learn anything like that.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 09:57 AM (ONvIw)

165 I've started van Loon's "Lives" which is proving to be delightful. More about that in future book threads. But one of the comments in the Amazon reviews mentioned the old Steve Allen show of "Meeting of Minds". I don't remember the show on PBS but that was a hugely busy time for me and I didn't always have a working TV. There are a few videos of some shows on Youtube. Turns out there is an OOP book of the scripts and my used copy arrived yesterday.

The show and van Loon's book work on the same premise: a conversational meeting in casual circumstances with famous people in history. I'm looking forward to both books. And I have a lot of faith in the Steve Allen shows. The man had a real genius.

Posted by: JTB at June 28, 2020 09:57 AM (7EjX1)

166 I had three held library audiobooks become available last week.
The Alchemist by Paul Coelho which I enjoyed.

Have Spacesuit, Will Travel by Heinlein, another 'Juvenile' winner as I'm slowly working my way through his work.

Gravity's Rainbow by Pynchon- wow, I normally spend more effort vetting a book before I put a hold on it. It's very long with constant digressions. I did get glimpses of interest/enjoyment in the few hours I listened while cutting the lawn. But I know I can find and read at least 4 other more enjoyable/educational titles in the time it would take to finish this.
A few minutes going through reviews sealed the deal on a rare abandonment.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at June 28, 2020 09:57 AM (x8Q/V)

167 JT my library doesn't have that one on line. I'm going to have to keep searching.
Posted by: Cheriebebe

Hiya !

What about Tricky Business ?

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 09:58 AM (arJlL)

168 Kafkatrap™ was the original name proposed for the Roach Motel™

Posted by: Muldoon at June 28, 2020 09:58 AM (Fc5rx)

169 Scrabble: Kafkatrap is 22 points.

Posted by: klaftern at June 28, 2020 09:58 AM (RuIsu)

170 I had picked up a book before all of the COVID stuff started and had been saving it for my trip to London since it was a fantasy novel set in current times, but doubt anytime soon I will be hopping over the pond so I read Strange Practice by Vivian Shaw. It has a nice setup- a woman is a trained medical doctor who has specialty training by her doctor father on how to treat the supernatural side of the community- vampires, ghouls, etc. mixed in with a murder mystery. Very appropriate use of London history into the plot, but too predictable of a plot and characters. Give it a 5 out of 10. There are sequels, but I won't be paying money for them.
The latest Peter Ash novel by Nick Petrie was much better, but not the high level of previous books. The Wild One should have been an interesting setting for Ash since it is in Iceland, a place he is not familiar with. Give it a 7 out of 10 due to some sharp character work and settings. Ash is a war veteran with PTSD who is tracking down a murderer and his family.
Best thing I read was a Louis L'Amour short story called the Sixth Shotgun- tight plot that made sense and solid character work. A good 10 out of 10.

Posted by: Charlotte at June 28, 2020 09:58 AM (AC9K8)

171 Your inner demons check in...

...but they don't check out!

Posted by: Muldoon at June 28, 2020 09:59 AM (Fc5rx)

172 Synchronicity alert as I actually started to re-read Quicksilver for the third time this week. I'm working my way through The Baroque Cycle again. It's never a chore.
So I was chuffed to see him mentioned here last night.
I'm going to have to check out Glen Cook now.

I love Stephenson's work and can honestly recommend "The Rise and Fall of the D.O.D.O." which he co-wrote and which I found a delight.
It's a little more humourous than his usual stuff - which isn't particularly morbid in the first place - but it has his usual intriguing mix of fantasy and magic realism.
A tale of witchcraft, time travel, alternate history, Incan string writing and rampant bureaucracy. I'm not selling it well so just go out and read it.

The audio version is particularly good and uses different actors ifot different narrations but the girl doing the Irish accent is....well....less than good, and I'm being kind here.

I doubt that accent has been no nearer Ireland than getting a warm flat Guinness in a Los Angeles Oirish theme bar. Very grating.
I'd put it on a par with my Texan accent y'all howdy partner Yee hat!

Posted by: Sir Ian Botham. at June 28, 2020 09:59 AM (89sl2)

173 I think she used to be some kind of Shinto nun or something

Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 28, 2020 08:59 AM (WwTwF)

She was a Shinto Shrine Maiden, which is (according to anime, at least) a not uncommon job for high school girls. Given that Shinto is heavily animistic, you see a lot of influence in her thinking. I also suspect, based on what she's said, that she's rather "spectrumy".

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 28, 2020 09:59 AM (uquGJ)

174 A lot of the permissiveness on pornography introduced in this country (by the courts) was built on classic liberal educations that taught (correctly) that the early years of book burning in Nazi trending Germany were of Weimar era smut as a reaction to the gross permisiveness of the post war. It always starts with the "right" people supposedly doing the "right" things.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 28, 2020 09:59 AM (nFRLh)

175 Also just picked up The Jewish Annotated New Testament, which is just what it sounds like. Jewish scholars annotating the Christian New Testament to add details of Jewish history and culture to the story to help Christians understand the context in which the events that are described occurred. Just getting started on it.
Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2020 09:55 AM (1YlHz)


That sounds very interesting!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2020 09:59 AM (2JVJo)

176 Her book isn't useless, but it does come from a very narrow view.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 28, 2020 09:50 AM (uquGJ)
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I agree. I think it has probably helped some people, but I came to a much broader idea of what she espouses years ago, on my own.

Two things I remember from her book that stood out for me. One is that every day when she comes home from work, she unpacks every single thing from her purse, thanks it, then puts it away, then puts her purse in its storage bag and puts it away. The next morning she gets everything out and repacks it again. Talk about a waste of time. And obsessiveness.

The second is her habit (which I think is weird) of literally talking to her stuff. As in the purse example above. But mostly when it comes to getting rid of things. She tells you to earnestly thank your shirt or book or dish or whatever, then put it in the toss pile. She's serious about it too. I guess it comes from her Shinto religion but I just don't subscribe to talking to inanimate objects as if they were real.

Posted by: bluebell at June 28, 2020 10:00 AM (/669Q)

177 I've heard the opinion that the war really started
when having been given the Sudetenland at Munich, Hitler invaded the
rest of Czechoslovakia. The idea was that at that point the Allies knew
that negotiations were pointless because Hitler wouldn't live up to his
end of the bargain. Any similarity to our appeasement of the left is
purely coincidental.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 09:52 AM (+y/Ru)

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This was the last exit ramp. The Czechs had fortified their border with Germany and boasted a very well-equipped army. Germany was not ready for a general war and the Stalin had a personal connection with the Czech leader, so Soviet aid was likely.

There was a coup planned in the event of war breaking out by the remnants of the Reichwehr leadership.

In writing about Spain's war, I integrate these events into my narrative and timeline, because they explain a lot about what is going on and I've noted that few books on the topic do that, instead focusing just on Spain.

But it was all locked together. Once the Czechs were sold out, the Soviets realized that the West wasn't a serious ally and Stalin decided to cut a deal with Hitler.

That in turn meant the Republic was a lower priority for military aid, especially with Japan becoming a serious threat in the Far East.

One unique element in my book is that I look at how the Republic could have won and what that would have meant in global politics.

If the 1936 rising failed, would Spain have been an Anarchist-led Communist state? Would Russia have intervened in the resulting left-on-left-on-right civil war?

What about Britain? If actual Soviet-style revolution was going on in Spain, how would the Brits react to an attempt to overthrow Portugal? Britain has a treaty with Portugal that goes back centuries.

One could well have had Britain line up with Germany and Italy against France and the Soviets (this presumes France falls into revolution as well).

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:00 AM (cfSRQ)

178 Those 'these pants' are not good. They look like spoiled sausage casings. Not something a guy wants associated with his midsection.

Posted by: JTB at June 28, 2020 10:01 AM (7EjX1)

179 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:01 AM (Zz0t1)

180 After the three year old boy and one year old baby girl murdered in Chicago gang violence this week, it appears a 10 year old girl fell victim to gang thuggery as well.

That's three kids included the 11 (& rising) mudred in Chicago since Friday. All Black.

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Only racists complain about the Chicago killing fields.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 10:01 AM (+y/Ru)

181 I can't read her because she doesn't understand that one of the kids *might* need it. I could probably stock two whole kitchens with what I have in the basement.

Whaddya mean you don't want Grandma's eggbeater?!
Posted by: IrishEi at June 28, 2020 09:53 AM (sGotD)

LOL. I have found good homes for some of my "stuff" especially kitchenware. With the current trend of looking for American made items, vintage or new old stock has become more attractive. A young neighbor was thrilled to receive an older but unused ceramic baking dish from me (after she was discussing concern about Chinese products). The kids have always been happy to get their hands on things from their grandmother's home and they use them.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 10:02 AM (ONvIw)

182 For whatever reason, probably the weather heating up, this wasn't a good reading week for me. One exception was a chapter in Simon Schama's Landscape and Memory devoted to the fountains Bernini designed and built in Rome, particularly the one for the four rivers of the world. The dagos were pretty fucking good with hydraulics but Bernini was just a magician as far as doing the almost impossible. Between the illustrations and Schama's word pictures and historical recitations of the papal patronage it was an example of how the author, when he isn't being a politicized tool, is a very effective historian.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 28, 2020 10:02 AM (y7DUB)

183 I've started van Loon's "Lives" which is proving to be delightful.

You will love it. One of my favorite chapters is when van Loon invites Elizabeth I and Empress Theodora to dine.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2020 10:03 AM (2JVJo)

184 At the very end, IIRC, he has a comment that the
Germans are fine so long as they have a good government, such is their
trust in it. But if the government goes bad on them, look out.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:45 AM (LMs+g)

Jerome did prophetically write that. He also wrote, "The German citizen is a soldier, and the policeman is his officer. The policeman directs him where in the street to walk, and how fast to walk. At the end of each bridge stands a policeman to tell the German how to cross it. Were there no policeman there, he would probably sit down and wait till the river had passed by."

Posted by: cool breeze at June 28, 2020 10:03 AM (UGKMd)

185 168 Kafkatrap was the original name proposed for the Roach Motel
Posted by: Muldoon at June 28, 2020 09:58 AM (Fc5rx)

You, sir, are a national treasure.

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 10:03 AM (X1xq4)

186 I guess it comes from her Shinto religion but I just don't subscribe to talking to inanimate objects as if they were real.
Posted by: bluebell at June 28, 2020 10:00 AM (/669Q)
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Except Mister Stabby. Right, Bluebell?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 10:03 AM (Dc2NZ)

187 I used to think Alan Alda's Hawkeye character was cool because he was so sarcastic.

Then I turned fifteen.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 28, 2020 10:04 AM (vuisn)

188 Except Mister Stabby. Right, Bluebell?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 10:03 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Every rule has the exception that proves it.

Posted by: bluebell at June 28, 2020 10:05 AM (/669Q)

189 I don't know who Marie Kondo is with her "Ideally, keep fewer than 30 books." What kind of sick bitch comes up with such nonsense?

Posted by: JTB at June 28, 2020 10:06 AM (7EjX1)

190 Posted by: bluebell at June 28, 2020 10:00 AM (/669Q)

Maybe a neuroleptic IS the answer.

I have seen true pathological hoarders. They save used paper cups, tissue boxes, some can't bear to throw out nail clippings or ripped up t-shirts. Collecting books, albums, an such is not hoarding in the psychiatric sense.

Going through your purse everyday to purge a stray piece of paper seems like an OCD ritual, but might just be a "downsizing" virtue signal and an attempt to sell her theory

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 10:06 AM (ONvIw)

191 Except Mister Stabby. Right, Bluebell?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 10:03 AM (Dc2NZ)

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We hates that one, don't we. Hates her. Soon.

Posted by: Mister Stabby at June 28, 2020 10:07 AM (cfSRQ)

192 Gravity's Rainbow by Pynchon- wow, I normally spend more effort vetting a book before I put a hold on it. It's very long with constant digressions. I did get glimpses of interest/enjoyment in the few hours I listened while cutting the lawn. But I know I can find and read at least 4 other more enjoyable/educational titles in the time it would take to finish this.

Gravity's Rainbow is probably the most disappointing book I've read unless I'm forgetting some other turd. With a few exceptions everything just seemed trite particularly compared to how great everyone told me it was.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 28, 2020 10:08 AM (y7DUB)

193 172 I doubt that accent has been no nearer Ireland than getting a warm flat Guinness in a Los Angeles Oirish theme bar. Very grating.
I'd put it on a par with my Texan accent y'all howdy partner Yee hat!
Posted by: Sir Ian Botham. at June 28, 2020 09:59 AM (89sl2)

If you want a GREAT Irish accent reading, the audiobook for Tana French's "Faithful Place" is a delight. The novel itself is very good.

Tana French - another fine recommendation from this very thread.

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 10:08 AM (X1xq4)

194 I used to think Alan Alda's Hawkeye character was cool because he was so sarcastic.



Then I turned fifteen.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 28, 2020 10:04 AM (vuisn)

---
MASH completed its run around the time I went to middle school.

I cannot watch it now. I also cannot understand why adults would have watched it - other than there were only three channels.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:09 AM (cfSRQ)

195 I have several neighbors who park expensive cars in the driveway or on the street baking in the sun all day. Why? Because their 2 or 3 car garages are filled with junk that they will most likely never use. Boxes and boxes of junk that were moved into the garage and will be moved again into a new garage some day.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 10:09 AM (aDgpc)

196 30 books Marie? WTF? Is this woman some sort of lunatic?

Surely she means thirty books per subject (nonfiction) or author (fiction). Still kind of restrictive but acceptable. Kind of. I guess.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 28, 2020 10:10 AM (qc+VF)

197 194

That is pretty much any TV show from the 80: from me. I will see a rerun and think how the fuck did anyone watch this crap? Then I remember there were only 3 channels and they all had nothing but crap available.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 10:11 AM (aDgpc)

198 Maybe the thirty book limit is just for the bathroom?

I mean come on dude! How long are you gonna be in there?!

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at June 28, 2020 10:11 AM (eMtQa)

199 Gravity's Rainbow by Pynchon- wow, I normally spend more effort vetting a book before I put a hold on it. It's very long with constant digressions. I did get glimpses of interest/enjoyment in the few hours I listened while cutting the lawn. But I know I can find and read at least 4 other more enjoyable/educational titles in the time it would take to finish this.
A few minutes going through reviews sealed the deal on a rare abandonment.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike

SPOILER ALERT!!!

The lengthy book devolves into a race to stop a mysterious warhead in a V-2 from being launched into England. Various clues are revealed as to what the warhead is. Finally, our hero discovers what it is but the reader is not told. I interpreted it as a pean to nihilism.c

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 10:12 AM (+y/Ru)

200 About a decade ago Leonaur started republishing some Edgar Rice Burroughs novel bundles with themed covers. The John Carter of Mars books had a picture of Mars on the cover, the Carson of Venus books had a picture of Venus the cover, etc. Its a kind of cool look for them. I only picked up three of them (First Mars, First Venus, and the Moon Set) either because I didn't read them right away, or because the local bookshop never offered the later installments. Anyways, I noticed them on my bookshelf, realized I hadn't read them since the first time, and figured they would make good gifts for the nephews. The Tarzan bundle set from a year ago didn't get any complaints, so I figure these will compliment the collection.

Now I just have to find the time to see the nephews...

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 28, 2020 10:12 AM (Lhaco)

201 Kondo is adored by millions, as she provides the formula for discipline that others lack. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

I work with a true hoarder. Normal guy otherwise. He was a Navy brat, and once during a move between duty stations, all their household effects had been put into a temporary storage facility until they settled, and it burned up. So ever since he is paranoid about losing stuff. So in his office is every plastic cup (with straw), every used paper plate, every empty water bottle. He admits he's afflicted with a mental disease.

My cousins and I descended on my grandmother's house, when she passed. She was beyond packrat. She kept every newspaper, Domino's pizza flyer, etc., for 60 years. Our first day, we filled 88 large Hefty bags.

Posted by: goatexchange at June 28, 2020 10:12 AM (ju3kX)

202 Cracker Jacks are full of jacks!

And crackers!

And Oppression!

Posted by: jsg at June 28, 2020 10:13 AM (gPhq7)

203 30 books Marie? WTF? Is this woman some sort of lunatic?

Surely she means thirty books per subject (nonfiction) or author (fiction). Still kind of restrictive but acceptable. Kind of. I guess.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg

When you're dealing with a banana, who knows WTF she means ?

And, don't call her Shirley.

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 10:13 AM (arJlL)

204 I blame my book clutter on how cheap used books have become. Local libraries always seem to have a decent selection of 10-20 yr old books for a few dollars each.
Better World books has been my main internet supplier the last few years. Several times a month they have sales that bring down a 4-5 book order to potentially under $3 per book.

I've finally cut way back on book buying. One thing the whole Covid mess did, I finally adjusted to reading scanned pdf books on a tablet. Digital clutter is more manageable.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (x8Q/V)

205 I have several neighbors who park expensive cars in the driveway or on the street baking in the sun all day. Why? Because their 2 or 3 car garages are filled with junk that they will most likely never use. Boxes and boxes of junk that were moved into the garage and will be moved again into a new garage some day.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 10:09 AM (aDgpc)


This stupidity is rampant in my neighborhood. A garage is to keep your car from getting the finish baked off or getting covered with snow.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (y7DUB)

206 That is pretty much any TV show from the 80: from
me. I will see a rerun and think how the fuck did anyone watch this
crap? Then I remember there were only 3 channels and they all had
nothing but crap available.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 10:11 AM (aDgpc)

---
Magnum p.i. is still good. I've been watching it on Amazon. The thing is, you can't binge on it (or I can't) because there isn't a story line, it's just a set of stand-alone episodes.

The cast is great, the characters fun and it was the Golden Age of Cleavage.

Lots of women without bras, which I did not notice back then - but I definitely notice now.

Also, totally un p.c., which is nice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (cfSRQ)

207 This is OT, but it is the funniest thing I have seen in a long, long time.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/Protest-at-Villages

Posted by: IrishEi at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (sGotD)

208 "Ideally, keep fewer than 30 books."
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In your library "checked out" queue.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (Dc2NZ)

209
I will be happy to keep fewer than 30 bills in the house.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 28, 2020 10:16 AM (mht8P)

210 Hospital CEO in Texas says the Covid numbers are inflated because they're admitting patients for other issues and testing for Covid on arrival. If they test positive, it's a Covid hospitalization instead of a hospitalization that happens to test positive.

As the info comes out, the one thing you can conclude is, government SUCKS at it's job. Big time.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:16 AM (Zz0t1)

211 Hoarding in that sense is a mental disease, and purging can be liberating for these people who see that they CAN live without these items. Others have abnormal brain activity, and some researchers have connected it with head trauma.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 10:17 AM (ONvIw)

212 Maybe the thirty book limit is just for the bathroom?

I mean come on dude! How long are you gonna be in there?!

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at June 28, 2020 10:11 AM (eMtQa)

I was 13 when we moved into our first new house...1.5 baths!...hooray! now dad had his own library!

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2020 10:17 AM (X/Pw5)

213 I horde hardware. Sometimes I wonder if it's nuts, but then when I find a need for that Z bracket I've held onto for 30 years I think "nope".

Posted by: f'd at June 28, 2020 10:17 AM (3UCkL)

214 This stupidity is rampant in my neighborhood. A garage is to keep your car from getting the finish baked off or getting covered with snow.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (y7DUB)

When did this happen?

Posted by: jsg at June 28, 2020 10:17 AM (gPhq7)

215 Posted by: Castle Guy at June 28, 2020 10:12 AM (Lhaco)

They are great books for teens. Of course, if you really loved your nephews, you'd give them ERB with Frazetta covers.

Not a criticism, just an observation.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 10:19 AM (Dc2NZ)

216 My cousins and I descended on my grandmother's house, when she passed. She was beyond packrat. She kept every newspaper, Domino's pizza flyer, etc., for 60 years. Our first day, we filled 88 large Hefty bags.
Posted by: goatexchange at June 28, 2020 10:12 AM (ju3kX)

Yup.....hoarding is a mental illness. I had to evict a lady from an apartment of mine and she had it full wall to wall with everything and anything she had touched at one time or another. And I mean everything, even personal hygiene items. Even her little Toyota shitbox was full to the brim with stuff.

Educated, had a good job but crazy as a shithouse rat.

Sad.


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2020 10:19 AM (Z+IKu)

217 201 My cousins and I descended on my grandmother's house, when she passed. She was beyond packrat. She kept every newspaper, Domino's pizza flyer, etc., for 60 years. Our first day, we filled 88 large Hefty bags.
Posted by: goatexchange at June 28, 2020 10:12 AM (ju3kX)

My wife's mother is likewise a hoarder, as bad as any seen on reality TV. When my wife and her sisters get together, there's always at least a passing grim reference to the work that awaits them when she one day passes.

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 10:19 AM (X1xq4)

218 This is OT, but it is the funniest thing I have seen in a long, long time.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/Protest-at-Villages
Posted by: IrishEi at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (sGotD)


"Your a fucking Nazi!"
"Grab em by the pussy!"

Big players in the geriatric community, it seems.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:19 AM (Zz0t1)

219 I'm convinced that the only way we (myself and Mrs. D) will overcome the clutter problem is fire. Beautiful, cleansing fire. I just want the motorcycle to be out of the garage when it happens.

Posted by: PabloD, cargo specialist for Aero Pinochet at June 28, 2020 10:19 AM (Q8mm0)

220 Learned kafkatrapping today. Thank you for that!

Posted by: Draki at June 28, 2020 10:20 AM (j12sz)

221
...but I just don't subscribe to talking to inanimate objects as if they were real.

Posted by: bluebell at June 28, 2020 10:00 AM


so, you've never worked on a two-stroke weed-whacker?

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2020 10:20 AM (R0tTw)

222 We have a 3 car garage and 3 cars. We can get 2 cars in the garage. The third bay is for my husband's workshop/tools, the bicycles, and deep freezer. Now the attic...that's where all the crap is.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 10:20 AM (UUBmN)

223 212 Maybe the thirty book limit is just for the bathroom?

I mean come on dude! How long are you gonna be in there?!

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at June 28, 2020 10:11 AM (eMtQa)

I was 13 when we moved into our first new house...1.5 baths!...hooray! now dad had his own library!
Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2020 10:17 AM (X/Pw5)

I was gonna say "bathroom" but wondered if that made me sound weird (yeah, THAT one thing). Growing up we legit had a throne surrounded by three walls of books.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 10:20 AM (Dc2NZ)

224 201 Kondo is adored by millions, as she provides the formula for discipline that others lack. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

I work with a true hoarder. Normal guy otherwise. He was a Navy brat, and once during a move between duty stations, all their household effects had been put into a temporary storage facility until they settled, and it burned up. So ever since he is paranoid about losing stuff. So in his office is every plastic cup (with straw), every used paper plate, every empty water bottle. He admits he's afflicted with a mental disease.

My cousins and I descended on my grandmother's house, when she passed. She was beyond packrat. She kept every newspaper, Domino's pizza flyer, etc., for 60 years. Our first day, we filled 88 large Hefty bags.
Posted by: goatexchange at June 28, 2020 10:12 AM (ju3kX)
_________

I have a friend like that. He'll buy a book simply because he can't remember which storage locker his other copy is in. Or sometimes just to have two.

A lot of his stuff is here, too. He's going to get it out in 2 weeks, and - get this - get a new storage locker for it.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 10:21 AM (LMs+g)

225 221
...but I just don't subscribe to talking to inanimate objects as if they were real.

Posted by: bluebell at June 28, 2020 10:00 AM


so, you've never worked on a two-stroke weed-whacker?
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2020 10:20 AM (R0tTw)

Is that one stroke for the the engine, and one stroke for the operator?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 28, 2020 10:21 AM (CAJOC)

226 So I had seen a couple of clips about "The Man in the High Castle" video, and I know Philip K. Dick is acclaimed as a literary giant, so I ordered the paperback from Amazon.

Just finished it. It obviously isn't the book the video seemed to be based on, I think. And I really can't make sense of the book on its own either.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 28, 2020 10:22 AM (4zwBl)

227 On this day in 1944, my dad was enjoying a brief respite, in the interim between the liberation of Rome and the soon-to-come move from Italy to Southern France. Once again the unit's Stinson L-4 observation plane was in the mix (note the nickname of their pilot):

June 28, 1944
We've been having that "Sunny" Italy weather ever since the wet one on the way from Rome. During mid day the weather is quite hot - but at night the sea breezes come drifting in and the weather is quite comfortable.
With nothing else to do - the "Caps Asst 3's" along with 'Ace' did a spot check for a bivouac area near Sparanise. Paul started in the plane with Charlie and I in hot pursuit. After a while Paul came down on a little field near the road and I went up. So on it went - first one flying and then another. It was a rather expensive reconnaissance - but definitely fun.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 28, 2020 10:22 AM (Fc5rx)

228 I will never see organized book collections as "clutter" unless you store in such a way that things become moldy and unusable.

I've had too many book "minimalists" borrow from me to believe that their rituals are valid. Yes their houses have that cool, airy, whitewashed and empty look, but this too will pass.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 10:22 AM (ONvIw)

229 JTB whats in Muzzleloader magazine?

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2020 10:22 AM (6f16T)

230 205
I have several neighbors who park expensive cars in the driveway or
on the street baking in the sun all day. Why? Because their 2 or 3 car
garages are filled with junk that they will most likely never use. Boxes
and boxes of junk that were moved into the garage and will be moved
again into a new garage some day.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 10:09 AM (aDgpc)



This stupidity is rampant in my neighborhood. A garage is to keep
your car from getting the finish baked off or getting covered with snow.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (y7DUB)

Back when i could still do my morning walks I used to see this all the time in the houses up at the top of the hill. Expensive cars sitting in the driveway with the garage door open and the garage full of old crap that needs to go to the junk yard. At least they could hold a yard sale and then throw away what's left.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2020 10:22 AM (mpXpK)

231 The only thing I can figure is it makes the Allied powers look none too virtuous and Hitler doesn't seem evil. Sure, he's a bully and not to be trusted. But, he doesn't have world conquest on his mind. Anyways, it was an interesting read.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane



I don't think Hitler had any real European or World conquest dreams that he truly believed he could actually fulfill, right up until Stalin said yes to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in August of 1939. That had to be a complete surprise to him.

Stalin agreed to that Pact because it gave him Eastern Poland and, he thought, the time to put together his own plan to conquer Europe for Communism.

What the Pact did was give Hitler room and time to start WW2, conquer Europe, massively increase his military and perfect Blitzkrieg. None of that was likely without Stalin's stupid agreement to the Pact.

The Russians like to brag that they won WW2 pretty much by themselves. My thought? "Fuck you. You're one of the primary causes of WW2, and it only cost you 30 to 45 million dead in your own Empire. Dumbasses."

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2020 10:23 AM (1YlHz)

232 Magnum p.i. is still good.

-
One of the things Higgins is good at is saying, "Oh my God!" in response to some of Magnum's shenanigans.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 10:23 AM (+y/Ru)

233 ... to continue the story.... the good part about sifting through decades of garbage, when one is called in to clean up after a deceased hoarder, is the 'archeological dig' aspect. We found layers of family memorabilia. "Oh look! we've reached the 1950s!"

Posted by: goatexchange at June 28, 2020 10:23 AM (ju3kX)

234 so, you've never worked on a two-stroke weed-whacker?
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 28, 2020 10:20 AM (R0tTw)
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No. And I confess I have yelled at inanimate objects on occasion, but not because I thought they had a spirit in them. And I never said thank you to them unless it was an ironic "thanks for nothing."

Posted by: bluebell at June 28, 2020 10:23 AM (/669Q)

235 Is that one stroke for the the engine, and one stroke for the operator?
Posted by: No One of Consequence at June 28, 2020 10:21 AM (CAJOC)


More.

Posted by: Billy Squier at June 28, 2020 10:23 AM (PiwSw)

236 so past 35k and the ambush in Morocco, in my novella, so I guess I'm throwing in a twist that had been hinted at in the exposition actually two of them.

Citizens was one work that made the French Revolution, more accessible and less remote, Winik excerpts the main parts in the Great Upheaval,

Posted by: thomas hobbes at June 28, 2020 10:23 AM (hMlTh)

237 Magnum p.i. is still good. I've been watching it on Amazon. The thing is, you can't binge on it (or I can't) because there isn't a story line, it's just a set of stand-alone episodes.

The cast is great, the characters fun and it was the Golden Age of Cleavage.

Lots of women without bras, which I did not notice back then - but I definitely notice now.

Also, totally un p.c., which is nice.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (cfSRQ)


We dumped cable several months ago and now only have OTA Digital TV. Magnum P.I. is on almost nightly, so I usually watch a few episodes before I crash out.

It holds up pretty well.

Most likely don't know that Higgins was born in Texas, not England.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:25 AM (Zz0t1)

238 JTB whats in Muzzleloader magazine?
Posted by: Skip

Girly pictures ?

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 10:25 AM (arJlL)

239 207 This is OT, but it is the funniest thing I have seen in a long, long time.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/Protest-at-Villages
Posted by: IrishEi at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (sGotD)
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That is freaking hilarious.

Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at June 28, 2020 10:26 AM (xoX4A)

240 No. And I confess I have yelled at inanimate objects on occasion, but not because I thought they had a spirit in them. And I never said thank you to them unless it was an ironic "thanks for nothing."
Posted by: bluebell at June 28, 2020 10:23 AM (/669Q)
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My wife and I were watching "Forged in Fire," a contest show where blacksmiths have to create knives and swords, and I heard one of the competitors, a gal, tell the judges she got mad at her washing machine, shot it, and turned it into a knife.

I laughed.

Good morning.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:26 AM (WEBkv)

241 I had, I don't know, maybe a 100 books I had moved from house to house for years because "I might read that again someday" I few years back I decided that it was time to reread them. So every couple if months I pull one off the shelf and actually reread it. I'm running about 75/25 on keeping them or giving them to Goodwill because they weren't very good. For example I only kept three of 6 or 7 John LeCarre novels but kept all my Isabel Allende and Graham Greene

Posted by: Who knew at June 28, 2020 10:26 AM (SfO/T)

242 From the 80s on storage unit growth has been yuuuge. During the same time home size has increased and household size has decreased. So we have bigger homes, fewer people in those homes and yet we still need storage units for all the junk we cant fit in the homes.

We are a nation of hoarders.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 10:26 AM (aDgpc)

243 Has anyone here read Glen Cook? I am unfamiliar with him. Where would be the best place to start?
Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 09:41 AM (X1xq4)

Ah, Glen Cook! Its probably not his most popular series, but I really enjoyed his 'Garrett P.I.' books. Its about a private investigator (with all the film noir character traits) working in a sprawling city in a high fantasy world. So replace all the film noir character archtypes with fantasy creatures. Dark Elf nightclub owners, half-orge thugs, rat-men street hustlers....and a consultant who is technically dead, but whose mind still lingers around the body.

I found it fun, but I think Glen's other works are more popular.

Posted by: Castle Guy at June 28, 2020 10:27 AM (Lhaco)

244 Breakfast done !

Okay.....

Comin' out....

Open the door Richard.....

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 10:27 AM (arJlL)

245 This stupidity is rampant in my neighborhood. A garage is to keep your car from getting the finish baked off or getting covered with snow.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (y7DUB)

Our too. I can't decide if if it's more to brag about the expensive car or if the garage is so full you can't fit a paper clip.
When we moved into our home that has an attached garage I kinda let my husband know MY car was always going to have a parking space, if his car didn't have a space it was his choice. Needless to say 15 years later we can still both park in the garage comfortably.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 10:27 AM (w6A0l)

246 Most likely don't know that Higgins was born in Texas, not England.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:25 AM (Zz0t1)
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Interesting, as I think he could have played Poirot very well.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:28 AM (WEBkv)

247 This is OT, but it is the funniest thing I have seen in a long, long time.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/Protest-at-Villages
Posted by: IrishEi

Senior delinquents.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 10:28 AM (+y/Ru)

248
My wife and I were watching "Forged in Fire," a contest show where blacksmiths have to create knives and swords, and I heard one of the competitors, a gal, tell the judges she got mad at her washing machine, shot it, and turned it into a knife.

I laughed.

Good morning.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:26 AM (WEBkv)


Your blade.

It will KEEEEEELLLLLLLL!!!!!!

Early version of that show were greatness.

Oh, and Will Willis is a bad ass.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:28 AM (Zz0t1)

249 30 books are fine, if you mean 30 books unshelved from the library, scattered about the house, and propositioned near near every comfortable reading chair, bench, bed, nook, crapper, and pillow nest.

Posted by: Downcast at June 28, 2020 10:29 AM (rI9Qu)

250
Interesting, as I think he could have played Poirot very well.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:28 AM (WEBkv)


Remember, he was one of the townsfolk in Blazing Saddles.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:29 AM (Zz0t1)

251
I don't think Hitler had any real European or
World conquest dreams that he truly believed he could actually fulfill,
right up until Stalin said yes to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact in August
of 1939. That had to be a complete surprise to him.


Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2020 10:23 AM (1YlHz)

---
This is false. Hitler expected a general war in the 1940s and his armaments plans were based on that premise.

Much is made of Germany rearming, but the process was not well advanced, even by 1940. Germany was chronically short of just about everything, especially trucks (both armies in Spain were more mechanized than Germany's), but that got covered up by early victories.

Stalin screwed himself, but Hitler was always going to head east.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:29 AM (cfSRQ)

252 From the 80s on storage unit growth has been yuuuge.

We are a nation of hoarders.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 10:26 AM (aDgpc)

Another missed investment opportunity...maybe as big as microsoft/apple.

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2020 10:29 AM (X/Pw5)

253 Been watching Magnum every day after work, loved that show and bought my 1911 because he had one.

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2020 10:30 AM (6f16T)

254 My rule is this: cars I own are in the garage. Cars I lease... bake in the sun for all I care.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 10:30 AM (aDgpc)

255 233 ... to continue the story.... the good part about sifting through decades of garbage, when one is called in to clean up after a deceased hoarder, is the 'archeological dig' aspect. We found layers of family memorabilia. "Oh look! we've reached the 1950s!"
Posted by: goatexchange at June 28, 2020 10:23 AM (ju3kX)

My late MIL saved a lot of old memory related material and objects. Some was truly scraps that only she could appreciate, and who am I to decide that an old birthday card was not worth keeping during her lifetime. I did find a few true treasures among the long unopened boxes from her parents' home. I was glad that her daughter had no interest, lol, but now she does and think it is unfair that we have the things she'd have chucked in a landfill.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 10:30 AM (ONvIw)

256 By the way, whoever mentioned, "On the Run: A Mafia Childhood," the book by the kids of Henry Hill, thanks.

Great read and to say the book "Wiseguy" sanitized the home life of the Hills in an understatement.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:30 AM (WEBkv)

257 207 This is OT, but it is the funniest thing I have seen in a long, long time.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/Protest-at-Villages
Posted by: IrishEi at June 28, 2020 10:14 AM (sGotD)

One comment :

AntiqueFa

ROFL

Posted by: jsg at June 28, 2020 10:31 AM (gPhq7)

258 The older I get the less books I keep. If I want to reread it I'll borrow it from the library.

Posted by: JuJuBee at June 28, 2020 10:31 AM (COzlW)

259 Most likely don't know that Higgins was born in Texas, not England.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:25 AM (Zz0t1)
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Interesting, as I think he could have played Poirot very well.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:28 AM (WEBkv)


I liked him as the pompous radio host Simon Brimmer in the Ellery Queen TV series.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2020 10:31 AM (2JVJo)

260 From the 80s on storage unit growth has been yuuuge. During the same time home size has increased and household size has decreased. So we have bigger homes, fewer people in those homes and yet we still need storage units for all the junk we cant fit in the homes.

We are a nation of hoarders.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 10:26 AM (aDgpc)


How else would we have gotten to know people like Barry Weiss, Brandi and the Cholo, or Dave YUUUUUUUP!!!! if it weren't for our hoarders?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:31 AM (Zz0t1)

261 Girly pictures ?
Posted by: JT

Maybe girls holding black powder firearms

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2020 10:32 AM (6f16T)

262 That witch is someone's grandma. Drugs must have been the shizzle at Woodstock.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 28, 2020 10:32 AM (nFRLh)

263 I finished David Hackett Fischer's great "Washington's Crossing" last year. None of the brats screeching about Washington are worthy to lick his boots. An observation by Revolutionary war hero Benjamin Rush heartened me. He said that it is the nature of Americans, and possibly of republics in general, to ignore problems until things get so bad we can't anymore and only then do we act. I hope the good doctor was correct and that that is true of the present moment.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at June 28, 2020 10:34 AM (oWAzz)

264 Much is made of Germany rearming, but the process was not well advanced, even by 1940. Germany was chronically short of just about everything, especially trucks (both armies in Spain were more mechanized than Germany's), but that got covered up by early victories.

Stalin screwed himself, but Hitler was always going to head east.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:29 AM (cfSRQ)


Hitler was never going to succeed with Col. Hogan and his marry band of misfits wreaking havoc all over.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:34 AM (Zz0t1)

265 262 That witch is someone's grandma. Drugs must have been the shizzle at Woodstock.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 28, 2020 10:32 AM (nFRLh)


Bingo night is going to be lit.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 28, 2020 10:34 AM (PiwSw)

266 I used to think Alan Alda's Hawkeye character was cool because he was so sarcastic.

Then I turned fifteen.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 28, 2020


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Sometimes the writers, including Alda, pushed the sarcasm a bit too far. But in the later years of the series especially, M*A*S*H became less of a war or service comedy and more about the characters themselves, with wonderful wordplay in the dialog -- and always the recognition that they were doctors and nurses first, and soldiers only because of that.

I date the serious change from the time Charles Winchester replaced Frank Burns.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 10:34 AM (rpbg1)

267 OK, folks, going to try to make hotel and plane reservations for the August MoMe. I'm not a traveler, so this will take me a while.

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 28, 2020 10:34 AM (2JVJo)

268 @244
I had to help clean out a relative's packed-with-junk house, and she had hundreds and hundreds of books, none of them in good shape.
However, she was known to hide $ in books, so we had to go through each dusty volume.
Found $50, but we were filthy by the end of the day.

Posted by: artemis at June 28, 2020 10:35 AM (AwPyG)

269 110
Which raises the one point, original to Marx (I think) that may have something to it. That is the distinction between a "class in itself" and a "class for itself". The former being the "objective" existence of the class, the latter referring to the class as self-conscious of itself as a class.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 09:38 AM (LMs+g)

Creating more classes along whatever convenient and arbitrary lines, beyond that or mere economic status, has been the new attack of Marxism it seems. People are too wealthy and comfortable in America for the revolution of the proletariat to every transpire, so it has diversified to multiply the number of possible aggrieved parties, and to use the wedge of Christian morality instead of some Marxist semi-exclusive idea of economic parity (though they keep that one around too--income inequality anyone?).

But this is merely observation. We're also a part of the culture, we should be acting, nor merely speculating. I'm interesting in ways to combat this. Much will be in the information space, generating true and robust replicating memes--I'm pretty sure they have whole groups working on this, consider the efficacy of the phrase/idea/meme Black Lives Matter. Perfect Kafka-trap and poison pill, bringing an indictment of America as constituted/founded with it. What do we have? What are we doing?

I haven't found options or agents yet.

Posted by: .87c at June 28, 2020 10:35 AM (T6Fbb)

270 the who dis photo is marred by Marx being at the bottom of the stack
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 28, 2020 08:53 AM (WwTwF)

Yes. That is a very fake and stagey photo.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 28, 2020 10:35 AM (ycd8q)

271 >>>The only thing I can figure is it makes the Allied powers look none too virtuous and Hitler doesn't seem evil. Sure, he's a bully and not to be trusted. But, he doesn't have world conquest on his mind. Anyways, it was an interesting read.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane

Hitler was charismatic but world domination is always there. He is very subtle, systemic and patient. He was like cancer, spreading everywhere and not being recognized until it's too late.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 10:35 AM (w6A0l)

272 I read the whole M*A*S*H series (Paris, New Orleans, ... ) during high school, and my yearbook quote came from the original:

"The surgeons in the MASH hospitals were exposed to ex­tremes of hard work, leisure, tension, boredom, heat, cold, satisfaction and frustration that most of them had never faced before. A few flipped their lids, but most of them just raised hell, in a variety of ways and degrees."

Posted by: Otto Zilch at June 28, 2020 10:36 AM (U2esv)

273 Just took some boxes of books to Sal Army... but I still have more than 30 here...

Have we ever talked about Jack Cashill's "Hoodwinked" here? Looks like it was published in 2005, and it was probably almost that long ago I read it. I should give it another go, but Jack has other books he's written since then.

Hoodwinked is a rogues gallery of modern charlatans, who have influenced the left, and does a pretty good job of laying the framework. I just started reading his more recent book, "Scarlet Letters," which covers much the same territory.

I'm not finding much use in reading too far into the past right now. So for me, it's guys like Cashill, Douglass Murray's "Madness of Crowds," Michael Malick's "The New Right," and the invaluable and very short "The Red Thread" by Diane West.

All of it helps put into perspective what is happening right now.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 10:36 AM (hku12)

274 I finished reading James Ellroy's L.A. Confidential.

Ellroy can be pretty intense, so I read Dave Barry's Big Trouble and Tricky Business (AGAIN !)

Then, I attempted to read Joseph Heywood's Buckular Dystrophy, but he had such bizarre names for his characters that it distracted from the story.

I'm in the middle of James Ellroy's Blood on the Moon.

I picked up NYPD a City and its Police by James Lardner and Thomas Repetto.


Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 10:36 AM (arJlL)

275 That witch is someone's grandma. Drugs must have been the shizzle at Woodstock.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 28, 2020 10:32 AM (nFRLh)


Now we know who took the brown acid

Posted by: cool breeze at June 28, 2020 10:36 AM (UGKMd)

276 Yes. That is a very fake and stagey photo.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 28, 2020 10:35 AM (ycd8q)

The white paper covers are ridiculous. Probably, they hide the fact that those are cook books.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 10:36 AM (ONvIw)

277 Most likely don't know that Higgins was born in Texas, not England.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:25 AM (Zz0t1)

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It takes a while for his accent to get settled in Season 1.

The show doesn't really find its stride until near the end of that season, including the iconic theme song.

But then it becomes classic TV where you watch a fun group of characters do their thing. Nothing profound, just a nice way to pass the time with charismatic and funny people. Great chemistry on the show.

There is some good military subtext to what is going on, noting the struggles of veterans to reintegrate and it's neat to watch the writers integrate Higgins into that environment. Those are the best moments of the show.

One thing that has aged *very well* is the fact that these are military veterans who also know their government is sneaky, lies, and can't be trusted. They love America, but distrust its leaders.

It's weird how Conservatism Inc. pretends that attitude wasn't everywhere during the 80s. Name a show or movie - all of them distrusted Uncle Sam, from Rambo to Magnum.

Now we have to pretend the FBI is run by angels and CIA would never meddle in domestic politics. Those shows are very refreshing.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:36 AM (cfSRQ)

278 We don't have a storage unit but we do pay for a covered parking space for our RV. There is a really old, rundown class B motorhome next to our space. I don't think it's been moved in 5 years. It not worth much, I doubt it would start up. Yet they pay to keep it stored. A lot, those spaces aren't cheap because demand is so high.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 10:37 AM (UUBmN)

279 My rule is this: cars I own are in the garage. Cars I lease... bake in the sun for all I care.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020


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Homeowners here with garages hardly ever park their cars inside them. Both vehicles are usually out in the hot sun in the driveway, and the garage doors are shut.

If I ever have a house with a garage, the car is going inside!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 10:37 AM (rpbg1)

280 If you read any of the sequels, M*A*S*H Goes to Maine is the one. The characters from the 4077th develop more fully, and we're introduced to the oddballs of Crabapple Cove.

Posted by: Otto Zilch at June 28, 2020 10:37 AM (U2esv)

281 The young girl painting is cute. That's art, unlike the shit they sell for millions today.

Her eyes, tho....they rip right through you.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:37 AM (Zz0t1)

282
Another missed investment opportunity...maybe as big as microsoft/apple.
Posted by: BignJames

There a favorite of REITs. They invest in a property that has future development potential. Toss up a cheap, low maintenance storage facility and cover taxes with it. The lack of locked in long term tenants makes the facility easy to convert when the opportunity arises.

Posted by: Jean at June 28, 2020 10:37 AM (TkZEK)

283 136 Wow! That isi.org is a treasure, OM!

They have a list of best books as well as worst books, and they invite college students to join a community of people who are retaining sanity during their college years.

Posted by: Emmie at June 28, 2020 09:47 AM (clsJu)


Yes, I've gotten a lot of good book thread material from them over the years.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 10:37 AM (k4bRG)

284 If you read any of the sequels, M*A*S*H Goes to Maine is the one. The characters from the 4077th develop more fully, and we're introduced to the oddballs of Crabapple Cove.
Posted by: Otto Zilch at June 28, 2020 10:37 AM (U2esv)


After MASH was a terrible show, however.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

285 My rule is this: cars I own are in the garage. Cars I lease... bake in the sun for all I care.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 28, 2020 10:30 AM (aDgpc)
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People have been complaining, locally, about their cars being broken into. Yet, the local neighborhood, everyone has a garage.

Evidently, the thought of putting their cars in their garage, rather than hording a ton of crap, never crosses their minds.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:39 AM (WEBkv)

286 If you read any of the sequels, M*A*S*H Goes to Maine is the one. The characters from the 4077th develop more fully, and we're introduced to the oddballs of Crabapple Cove.
Posted by: Otto Zilch at June 28, 2020 10:37 AM (U2esv)
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Yep.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:39 AM (WEBkv)

287 I've spoken before about books that grab ya by the lapels and PULL YOU IN.

Nelson DeMille's The General's Daughter is one such book.

And I'm gonna go read it now.

Have a great one and see ya's next week, Book Horde !

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 10:40 AM (arJlL)

288
Homeowners here with garages hardly ever park their cars inside them. Both vehicles are usually out in the hot sun in the driveway, and the garage doors are shut.

If I ever have a house with a garage, the car is going inside!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 10:37 AM (rpbg1)


I have a partially started restoration project in my garage on one side. The rest is mostly filled with stuff my wife has accumulated over the years. Where her Expedition would FIT in the other half, if needed, I couldn't get into my beer fridge, so it stays outside.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)

289 243 I found it fun, but I think Glen's other works are more popular.
Posted by: Castle Guy at June 28, 2020 10:27 AM (Lhaco)

Any one in particular?

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 10:40 AM (X1xq4)

290 Been watching Magnum every day after work, loved that show and bought my 1911 because he had one.

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2020 10:30 AM (6f16T)

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Since rewatching I noticed that his 1911 jams/misfeeds from time to time. At first I thought it was theatrical, but then I realized it's probably because .45 blanks are famously inadequate when it comes to cycling the action. I suspect the writers figured this out so he rarely fires two shots in a row on camera.

I believe that's one reason why Indiana Jones used a revolver, which didn't have that problem.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:40 AM (cfSRQ)

291 After MASH was a terrible show, however.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020


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Interesting idea, but (from what I've read) terrible execution. Besides, the time at the 4077th was the most important, the defining, period of the characters' lives. That's what a story is supposed to be about. After that's resolved, unless it's a real series character, the story is really over.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 10:41 AM (rpbg1)

292 I went into a bookstore in sturgeon bay, wi earlier this week. I had to put on a mask and knock at the door to get in. It took me 30 seconds to decide this bookseller was not going to get any of my business. Just about every book on display was an anti-trump book. Oh, and a book about how to talk to your kids about white privliedge. this in a county where I've seen a grand total of 3 black people since I've been here. Not all small businesses deserve to thrive.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at June 28, 2020 10:41 AM (oWAzz)

293 238 JTB whats in Muzzleloader magazine?
Posted by: Skip

Girly pictures ?
Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 10:25 AM (arJlL)
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Betty Page.

(With that last name, she should be a who dis. If you can find a picture with a book.)

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 10:41 AM (LMs+g)

294 Makes me wonder: If someone seeks to create a deep rift between two elements of society, would they be guilty of schismism?
Posted by: Muldoon at June 28, 2020 09:17 AM (Fc5rx)

And, since it seems that one must have a uterus to be sufficiently woke, would that not be "wombatism"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 28, 2020 10:41 AM (ycd8q)

295 If I ever have a house with a garage, the car is going inside!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 10:37 AM (rpbg1)

My cars are in my garage, my books are on the shelves, the tools are in the workroom or on the loft in tha garage that my husband built for outdoor tools like the chainsaws. Organization is not all that hard and does not have to mean "almost empty".

The best part of a garage is never having to clean the snowy windshield or walk out to the car in a downpour.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 10:41 AM (ONvIw)

296 Homeowners here with garages hardly ever park their cars inside them. Both vehicles are usually out in the hot sun in the driveway, and the garage doors are shut.

If I ever have a house with a garage, the car is going inside!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 10:37 AM (rpbg1)


Right? Found out the hard way that parking your car outdoors really causes serious deterioration of the body that adds up year after year. Now our car stays in the garage every night.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 10:41 AM (k4bRG)

297 I own most of the M*A*S*H books (lack Maine, Mania, and New Orleans) and find many of them gut-bustingly funny. I say "many" because the last two with Butterworth (Montreal, Moscow) fizzled badly. I recommend that you stop with "M*A*S*H Goes to Texas." (The titles include "Goes to," not "in".)

These are definitely not for SJWs. I haven't read them in years, but I read them so often as a teen that I can just flip to certain passages. Good times.

I've begun "Sea Leopard" by Craig Thomas, who's best known for "Firefox." It was published in the early '80s.

Leopard is the code name for a submarine stealth device developed for NATO by a scientist who's vanished. The gadget has been rushed into the field so the British Navy can map a detection net installed by the Soviets (in hindsight, I miss those bastards -- they were useful heavies) in the Barents Sea. The sub overhears a distress call from a Soviet sub in Norwegian waters and is ordered to render assistance. Problem is, this is actually a Soviet trap to capture Leopard.

End chapter one.

Lacking willpower, I looked up more information on the book on a Craig Thomas fansite and tripped across a spoiler. Part of me wishes I hadn't; the rest is raring to move along with the book because said spoiler puts this story in high gear.

My wife cleared and reorganized our main bookshelves, and I must admit they look better. We have several grocery bags of books to take to our local secondhand bookstore for trade credit. We'll never use some of those credits, so we're essentially giving those books away. Still, better than trashing them.

The store also deals in comics, so just wait until I start culling my accumulation!

Posted by: Weak Geek at June 28, 2020 10:42 AM (u/nim)

298 Just realized I hat at least 50 books in my living room book case (the little one) so make that a couple of hundred books that I "might reread"

Posted by: Who knew at June 28, 2020 10:42 AM (SfO/T)

299 Not all small businesses deserve to thrive.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at June 28, 2020 10:41 AM (oWAzz)


And I bet he didn't have a single book by Thomas Sowell.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 28, 2020 10:42 AM (PiwSw)

300 Hitler was never going to succeed with Col. Hogan and his marry band of misfits wreaking havoc all over.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:34 AM (Zz0t1)

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I remember watching that show in reruns thinking Bob Crane is a comedic genius and what else did he do?And then I found out. Wow.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)

301 I've been reading "Hidden Christmas: The Surprising Truth Behind the Birth of Christ" by Timothy Keller. About 3/4 of the way through. Wonderful fresh look at what for many of us is just a celebration or holiday; instead, a new look at the "light outside of this world, and Jesus has come from it to save us."

Posted by: CarolinaGirl at June 28, 2020 10:43 AM (1qlYG)

302 I'm read children's books... Percy Jackson by Rick Riordon. Greek mythology for the win! I just can't read anything too heavy/deep right now. I need fluff!

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 10:43 AM (UUBmN)

303 "From the moment I picked your book up until I laid it down, I was convulsed with laughter. Someday I intend reading it."

- Groucho Marx, who should be required reading in skools

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 28, 2020 10:44 AM (HaL55)

304 I'm read children's books... Percy Jackson by Rick Riordon. Greek mythology for the win! I just can't read anything too heavy/deep right now. I need fluff!
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 10:43 AM (UUBmN)
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No matter what is read, it still exercises the mind more than the tv.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:45 AM (WEBkv)

305 Re: Garages - I live in Michigan and when we bought our current house the absolute requirement was for an attached garage.

Not for storage, for the cars.

There are situations during the warm weather months that we have a project going so the cars are left out, but these are rare, and usually involve a short-term project, like refinishing furniture, rebuilding a cabinet, etc.

No way in hell I want to shovel snow off of my car when there's a garage available.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:45 AM (cfSRQ)

306 ---
I remember watching that show in reruns thinking Bob Crane is a comedic genius and what else did he do?And then I found out. Wow.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)


Talk about a womanizer and living two lives, right?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 28, 2020 10:45 AM (Zz0t1)

307 I remember watching that show in reruns thinking Bob Crane is a comedic genius and what else did he do?And then I found out. Wow.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020


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Aside from his personal life, Crane played the husband of the couple next door on Donna Reed, and he did a TV-movie version of Arsenic and Old Lace in '69.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 10:45 AM (rpbg1)

308 I first encountered the term kafkatrapping in this post by Eric S. Raymond, from close to a decade ago: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=2122

Posted by: Mycroft at June 28, 2020 10:45 AM (FsNPk)

309 I was also monumentally disappointed with Gravity's Rainbow. The best way to describe it is that it's like Cryptonomicon, only stupid.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 10:46 AM (wL2ZV)

310 Betty Page.

(With that last name, she should be a who dis. If you can find a picture with a book.)
Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 10:41 AM (LMs+g)


I've found a pic of Mitzi Gaynor with a book that I can't use because the mere sight of it would turn most of the morons into wildly rutting hogs. Very unseemly for the high class book thread, don't you know...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 10:47 AM (k4bRG)

311 No way in hell I want to shovel snow off of my car when there's a garage available.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:45 AM (cfSRQ)
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I lived in snow country for years, without a garage and, yeah, taking a broom to the car to get off a foot of snow isn't fun. Yeah, we had a few storms where the snow brush was akin to bailing with a fork.

Now, even though I don't have to deal with that kind of weather, the cars still go in the garage.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:48 AM (WEBkv)

312 @Wolfus Aurelius and @OregonMuse -

Why on earth would someone keep $500 - $3000 worth of decorations, stuff for Goodwill, lawn mowers and beach junk nice and dry in the garage, while leaving a $25,000 car out in all weathers, to depreciate faster? I've never understood it.

Posted by: CarolinaGirl at June 28, 2020 10:48 AM (1qlYG)

313 I've found a pic of Mitzi Gaynor with a book that I can't use because the mere sight of it would turn most of the morons into wildly rutting hogs. Very unseemly for the high class book thread, don't you know...
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 10:47 AM (k4bRG)
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So, potential "Gorilla thread" Who Dis.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:48 AM (WEBkv)

314 Sometimes the writers, including Alda, pushed the sarcasm a bit too far. But in the later years of the series especially, M*A*S*H became less of a war or service comedy and more about the characters themselves, with wonderful wordplay in the dialog -- and always the recognition that they were doctors and nurses first, and soldiers only because of that.

I date the serious change from the time Charles Winchester replaced Frank Burns.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 10:34 AM (rpbg1)


Most shows become more about the characters than the original story line. One series that mostly avoided that was Person of Interest although the writers fixated on Root and Shaw's lezzo relationship near the end.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 28, 2020 10:49 AM (y7DUB)

315 well butterworths series, written mostly by his son, is loosely based on his early days in the paratroopers, this texan avatar is kind of hawkeye as a junior intel officer, screwing anything from paris to berlin, in the early days of the cold war, there is a thinly veiled kissinger manque in it,

Posted by: thomas hobbes at June 28, 2020 10:49 AM (hMlTh)

316 I'm convinced that the only way we (myself and Mrs. D) will overcome the clutter problem is fire. Beautiful, cleansing fire. I just want the motorcycle to be out of the garage when it happens.
Posted by: PabloD, cargo specialist for Aero Pinochet at June 28, 2020 10:19 AM (Q8mm0)


Before I moved last year, I thought arson was a viable option. Only problem was, how to make it look like an accident, and if I took my cats out first it might look suspicious.

So we moved, and the house is still sitting there. Egad, I need to sell it.

Best part of moving though was placing a huge dumpster in the driveway and loading it with all the crep that wasn't going to move with us.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 10:49 AM (hku12)

317 I know Philip K. Dick is acclaimed as a literary giant, so I ordered the paperback from Amazon.

Phillip K Dick is a great idea guy, brilliant concepts and plot ideas, but not so great at execution

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 10:50 AM (KZzsI)

318 Best part of moving though was placing a huge dumpster in the driveway and loading it with all the crep that wasn't going to move with us.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 10:49 AM (hku12)
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Heh.

My wife and I have a rule when deciding whether to keep or toss: If you hesitate, it goes.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:50 AM (WEBkv)

319 Phillip K Dick is a great idea guy, brilliant concepts and plot ideas, but not so great at execution
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

That's my take as well.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 10:51 AM (+y/Ru)

320 Well, shower time, as I think Church would appreciate being able to see me before they are aware of my presence.

Later!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:51 AM (WEBkv)

321 I had an Expedtion about 13 years ago. Parked it in the garage. One day the cruise control cable caught fire... while it was in the garage. No structural damage to the house but the smoke damage was throughout the whole house/attic. There was water damage in the garage from putting the car fire out. The comment that stuck was when the firefighters said, if we parked in the driveway because we couldn't the car into the garage it would have saved a lot of trouble and heartache.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 10:52 AM (UUBmN)

322 Why on earth would someone keep $500 - $3000 worth of decorations, stuff for Goodwill, lawn mowers and beach junk nice and dry in the garage, while leaving a $25,000 car out in all weathers, to depreciate faster? I've never understood it.
Posted by: CarolinaGirl at June 28, 2020


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Well, a great many people in Da Swamp are imbeciles, so that explains it.

These same goofballs park their cars in the hot sun at Walmart or the mall and don't put up sunshades or have their windows tinted -- and then wonder why they're hot when they get back in the car. Me, I try to find shade, put up the front and rear sunshades, and have window tint as dark as is legal.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 10:52 AM (rpbg1)

323 I remember watching that show in reruns thinking Bob Crane is a comedic genius and what else did he do?And then I found out. Wow.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)


Bob Crane was a sad, pathetic man. May God have mercy on his broken soul. I never did find out if they ever found out who beat him to death.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 10:52 AM (k4bRG)

324 gravity's rainbow was dull. I stopped reading it after 30 pages or so. to me, novels like that are like ugly modern art. they exist so the self-styled intellectual elites can preen about their special sophisticated sensibility, which elevates them above the rest of us slobs. they can appreciate gravity's rainbow and ugly modern art because they're better than the dolts who want stories with plots and beautiful art.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at June 28, 2020 10:52 AM (oWAzz)

325 Hey hordians, to round out some of my WWII reading can anyone make recommendations about what was going on with Japan? There is so much written about Europe but little allusion as to how and why we got Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 10:53 AM (w6A0l)

326 Methinks Tucker dropped a sly fact in his review of the execrable tome White Fragility." He mentioned its best-selling status and that it was being bought "in bulk."

I'm pretty sure that's code for "somebody's buying pallets of these things then putting them in a warehouse in order to make it appear to be something it isn't."

Who would buy a book with that title right now? Not me. That book is a best seller just like the riots that are mostly peaceful.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 28, 2020 10:53 AM (HaL55)

327 Books that arrived at our house this week (from Amazon, sorry):
a lovely hardback copy of Diary of an Early American Boy

"We Turned Them to the North" on cattle drives

'The Pioneers" by David McCullough, his new one

"Naked in Death", the first Eve Dallas mystery. Wow, it was bad, but you can see the bones of the good series into which it evolved.

Posted by: Sal at June 28, 2020 10:53 AM (bo8pf)

328 Most shows become more about the characters than the
original story line. One series that mostly avoided that was Person of
Interest although the writers fixated on Root and Shaw's lezzo
relationship near the end.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 28, 2020 10:49 AM (y7DUB)

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This is why detective shows were so popular.

You focus on the characters and then have a guest stars to mix things up.

No bother about story arc, plot line or anything else. Plus you can do features on the minor characters and give the lead actor a break.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:54 AM (cfSRQ)

329 Best part of moving though was placing a huge dumpster in the driveway and loading it with all the crep that wasn't going to move with us.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 10:49 AM (hku12)
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Heh.

My wife and I have a rule when deciding whether to keep or toss: If you hesitate, it goes.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:50 AM (WEBkv)


That's a good rule. We have a large quantity of Halloween decorations, but I don't think I'll ever be putting them up again. Some may have some monetary worth... so the only question is: donate or trash?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 10:54 AM (hku12)

330 Wouldn't another definition of Kafkatrapping be Damned if you do and Damned if you don;t?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 28, 2020 10:54 AM (QzF6i)

331 Bob Crane was a sad, pathetic man. May God have mercy on his broken soul. I never did find out if they ever found out who beat him to death.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 10:52 AM (k4bRG)

Willem Dafoe

Posted by: BignJames at June 28, 2020 10:54 AM (X/Pw5)

332 "The Jewish Annotated New Testament, which is just what it sounds
like. Jewish scholars annotating the Christian New Testament to add
details of Jewish history and culture to the story to help Christians
understand the context ..."

sounds very useful. Of course Christian scholars clearly need to be well versed in the OT to understand the NT, but today's Jews could probably point out some details "modern" Christians tend to miss. imo many traditions added to "Christianity" were compromises with other "traditions", thanks to infiltration of our churches (which happened even in Paul's day, as he reproved and corrected even then)


The Bible is an Eastern book, and one saying is "The Old Testament in the New Testament concealed, the new Testament is the Old Testament Revealed". For instance, Jesus as the lamb of God, the final sacrifice ... or the risen Christ Jesus as our high priest forever. And several OT references to to the coming redeemer as the foundation stone, cornerstone.


The part hidden in the OT is the current times ... and the mystery of Christ in you the hope of Glory. (for had the princes of this world known, they would not have crucified the Lord of Glory). The body of Christ (not the bride) with Christians being joint heirs, this period of grace (grace administration some would call it) ... is not revealed till Pentecost. (is my understanding, teaching from many like Bullinger) But there is still much to learn from the OT scholars, for sure. "Israel" also saw a time when this savior would return in Glory ... this is also still the Christian hope.


this link is to an index of Bullinger's appendix to his Companion Bible ... he has a lot of detail from the OT ... the whole of the appendix is linked from the index, a whole free book in itself.



https://tinyurl.com/y9qq494d

Posted by: illiniwek at June 28, 2020 10:54 AM (Cus5s)

333 319 Phillip K Dick is a great idea guy, brilliant concepts and plot ideas, but not so great at execution
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

That's my take as well.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 10:51 AM (+y/Ru)


When you consider how mentally ill he was, it's a wonder he was able to write anything at all.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 10:55 AM (k4bRG)

334 Cheriebebe, Japan at that time was suffering under various economic sanctions, especially oil and minerals.
Guess who was doing the sanctioning.

Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 28, 2020 10:55 AM (w7KSn)

335 yes root was kind of a girl crush on shaw, most of the characters were pretty damaged, reese and heck what his handler again, the former lost his wife, the latter had to give it up, if offered a very nuanced view of the panopticon, with samaritan being the evil ai, and the machine otherwise,

Posted by: thomas hobbes at June 28, 2020 10:55 AM (hMlTh)

336 @318
I think that's a good rule--I'm pretty ruthless, myself.
But I keep a lot of favorites from childhood, even though I may never read them again--The Secret of the Old Clock, Tanar of Pellucidar--because we are old friends.

Posted by: artemis at June 28, 2020 10:55 AM (AwPyG)

337 I've found a pic of Mitzi Gaynor with a book that I can't use because the mere sight of it would turn most of the morons into wildly rutting hogs. Very unseemly for the high class book thread, don't you know...


oink

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 28, 2020 10:56 AM (HaL55)

338 Lin-duh, those firemen were jackasses. Fires happen in garages period. Your car could have started the fire, so could a frayed wire that a mouse chewed. Shit happens.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 10:56 AM (w6A0l)

339 I've found a pic of Mitzi Gaynor with a book that I can't use because the mere sight of it would turn most of the morons into wildly rutting hogs. Very unseemly for the high class book thread, don't you know...
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 10:47 AM (k4bRG)
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I thought we had a rule about that.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 10:56 AM (LMs+g)

340 That can't be Betty Page. She's wearing too much clothing.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 10:57 AM (wL2ZV)

341 I just finished reading Plato's "Symposium" for the first time since college and couldn't help chuckling over what my nephew said when he read it. "That's a book about fags."

Posted by: Caliban at June 28, 2020 10:57 AM (QE8X6)

342 323 I remember watching that show in reruns thinking Bob Crane is a comedic genius and what else did he do?And then I found out. Wow.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)

Bob Crane was a sad, pathetic man. May God have mercy on his broken soul. I never did find out if they ever found out who beat him to death.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 10:52 AM (k4bRG)

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I think it's pretty much accepted that John Carpenter ('no not that one' as it usually says in every account of the murder) was the culprit. But since he's long dead too now, it will probably never be proven legally.

Posted by: Sir Ian Botham. at June 28, 2020 10:58 AM (89sl2)

343 Some may have some monetary worth... so the only question is: donate or trash?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 10:54 AM (hku12)

Maybe use some of those online garage sale type sites or on Facebook marketplace?

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 10:58 AM (w6A0l)

344 I remember Trapper John , M.D.

The problem was he looked nothing like the Trapper on the M.A.S.H tv show but it was supposed to be him later on in life.

TV is crap.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2020 10:59 AM (Z+IKu)

345 These same goofballs park their cars in the hot sun at Walmart or the mall and don't put up sunshades or have their windows tinted -- and then wonder why they're hot when they get back in the car. Me, I try to find shade, put up the front and rear sunshades, and have window tint as dark as is legal.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 10:52 AM (rpbg1)


That was one of the things I found by parking my Volvo outside for years. The dashboard plastic dried out and cracked and fell apart.

Now I always use a sunscreen when the weather gets hot. Or park in the shade.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 10:59 AM (k4bRG)

346 I was lying awake last night wondering when the book burnings will start.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 10:59 AM (wL2ZV)

347 A friend of mine bought a house in an exclusive housing project in a suburb near Raleigh. They were not allowed to park a car in the street at all, nor on the driveway for more than 1 day. They were also not allowed to plant new shrubs are cut down any shrubs or trees w/o permission of the Home Owners Association. They could also not paint their house a different color. I told him I would never buy a house in that neighborhood.

Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2020 11:00 AM (mpXpK)

348 Cheriebebe,
We know it was the car that started the fire. The firemen were joking. It stuck because it was ironic. We still park our cars in the garage. The exception was when my husband had a big crew cab long bed diesel truck that was too long to get into the garage. I imagine when the kids start driving in a few years we'll have cars in the driveway and street.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 11:00 AM (UUBmN)

349 Beach Blanket BINGO!
Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:24 AM (w6A0l)

How to stuff a wild bikini.

With Annette in a navel concealing two piece.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 28, 2020 11:00 AM (qyH+l)

350 Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 10:41 AM (ONvIw)

Our car is parked on the driveway because of the enormous recycling bin required by the city. It has to stay in the garage because of the HOA and I can't get it out between the car, the van, and the raised area with the freezer. I don't want to pull the van out just to get the bin out so the bin lives where the car would usually. The irony is that even with 5 of us we don't need such a big bin and the old style small one would have been fine.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 28, 2020 11:01 AM (uquGJ)

351 Stalin screwed himself, but Hitler was always going to head east.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd



I think you may have missed the point of my comment, which was this: "I don't think Hitler had any real European or World conquest dreams that he truly believed he could actually fulfill."

Of course I understand that Hitler wanted to Head East* and even intended to do so at some point later in the 40s. Everyone who has studied him and the period knows this. I just don't believe he really thought he could accomplish that goal.

But Stalin agreeing to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact made Hitler believe the USSR was much weaker than it was (combined with watching USSR get stymied by the Finns in 1940), gave Hitler the opportunity to conquer Europe, and also gave Hitler a false sense that his military could beat anyone, at any time. And all this lead to his stupid decision to invade Russia on 6/22/41 (stupid for all the reasons you give about Germany being woefully unprepared for the effort).

My opinion is: If not for the M-R Pact, Hitler's oft-expressed desire/intention to invade Russia would never have been put into motion. I also think that Stalin would have invaded Germany well before Hitler had the balls to invade Russia, had Hitler not had the chance to bolster his confidence by conquering Europe first).

Anyway, my opinion. YMMV.

*Oblig.: I said "Head East", so here you go music lovers:

https://tinyurl.com/HE-Never-Been-Any-Reason

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2020 11:01 AM (1YlHz)

352 Ian Toll's December 1941, offers some perspective on the machinations on the Control Junta, yamamoto was the moderate navy minister, in that crazy bag of cats, the one who knew the enemy, instead of the propaganda, but he had actually been in the states,

I think of him a little like prince turki, who was kicked over to the uk right before 9/11, out of general intelligence, because he wasn't totally on board with certain elements of the security service, he was western educated, like Prince Bandar, who would eventually take his slot, although the former came from Faisal's line, the latter the son of a servant,

Posted by: thomas hobbes at June 28, 2020 11:02 AM (hMlTh)

353 Some may have some monetary worth... so the only question is: donate or trash?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 10:54 AM (hku12)

Maybe use some of those online garage sale type sites or on Facebook marketplace?
Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 10:58 AM (w6A0l)


I can't stand the thought of selling junk online. I don't how "valuable" the junk is.

I hate money.

There, I said it. Money is such a stupid concept, and the more I have to think about it, the less I am enjoying life.

So with this sort of thing, it's about how to get clutter out of my life, I have no interest in getting cash back for any of it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (hku12)

354 I stalled out about a quarter of the way into _Rise and Fall of DODO_. Not sure why. It was hard to avoid the impression that this was all the backstory info for a really good roleplaying game.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (wL2ZV)

355 I thought we had a rule about that.
Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 10:56 AM (LMs+g)


It'd be fine for a 'who dis' during the week, (hint: leggy) but when I showed Mitzi a few months back, I found so many great pics of her that I didn't use that one.

Maybe in the future.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (k4bRG)

356 Who dis is Olivia Dehavilland's kid sister, Joan Fontaine.

Fund fact, they feuded most of their lives, and I don't believe either grew up in England at all, given their father was a diplomat in Japan, and they returned and lived in CA before the war...so where did they get their English accents?

Posted by: Boswell at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (32YRo)

357 Holy crap.

Kansas State football players are refusing to play until one (1) Kansas State student who posted a different opinion about Saint Floyd using his own individual social media account is dismissed from the school.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (3w4SV)

358 BurtTC, then go with Salvation Army. They take decorations.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 11:04 AM (w6A0l)

359 So with this sort of thing, it's about how to get clutter out of my life, I have no interest in getting cash back for any of it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (hku12)


That only leaves burglary or arson.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 11:04 AM (k4bRG)

360 My old boss was good friends with his son, Bobby. The impact of the actions of fathers on sons can be devastating.

That scene in Autofocus, the last time Bobby sees his dad, where they're sitting in the car and Bob Sr. is just all f'd up and pervy... heartbreaking.

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 11:05 AM (X1xq4)

361 I realize some churches haven't opened up and some churches don't preach the Gospel any more, so some Morons miss their Sunday services. I would like to invite you to church this morning. This is a small-town, interdenominational church.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8vkkw98

Have a blessed day!

Posted by: Emmie at June 28, 2020 11:06 AM (clsJu)

362 357 Holy crap.

Kansas State football players are refusing to play until one (1) Kansas State student who posted a different opinion about Saint Floyd using his own individual social media account is dismissed from the school.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (3w4SV)

OMG, the stupidity that is our country.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 11:06 AM (w6A0l)

363 No Hitler hated the Slavs with a passion, and Jews who were plentiful in the bloodlands, sadly not anymore, he was the Western powers as week, the UK roiled in their economic doldrums the French the same with an administrative class that hated Blum because of Dreyfus, the cagoule, the proto vichy founded by L'Oreal head Schueller, was starting their crusade against opponents,

Posted by: thomas hobbes at June 28, 2020 11:07 AM (hMlTh)

364 Fine K State. Don't play.

College and pro sports can't die soon enough.

Posted by: Children of the Banned at June 28, 2020 11:07 AM (Jk+3L)

365 Polliwog,
Can't you keep that bin behind the back fence? That's what we do. They even make a special shed to keep them in that is only about 5feet tall so it doesn't break any HOA rules about being seen from the street. We keep our bins outside because they are too big for the garage. We bought this bungee strap thing to keep critters out so no issues with that.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 11:07 AM (UUBmN)

366 And here's a more direct link to the livestream church service:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N_r6xRzF-As

Posted by: Emmie at June 28, 2020 11:07 AM (clsJu)

367 >>Kansas State football players are refusing to play

So...Kansas State does have a football team after all!

Posted by: Boswell at June 28, 2020 11:07 AM (32YRo)

368 I'm moving from a house I've lived in for 27 years. After my husband passes away teo yars ago, my sons helped clean out most of his things to save me from having to do it. I was them able to get rid of the tools and yard equipment by trading them for labor from a handyman.But now, I have to cull my own belongings. I have been able t o get rid of a lot of big stuff on Craig's list but the sheer amount of things that have nostalgic value are pretty hard to let go of. Do any of you still have high school yearbooks? I still have a newletter that I authored in grade school. Christmas decorations my kids made, essays they wrote, SAT scores. I have a huge trunk full of photo albums from our lifetime of travels and holiday events.How do you part with that stuff ? Getting rid of clothing has been much easier as shoulder pads are no longer in style.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 28, 2020 11:07 AM (QzF6i)

369 356 Who dis is Olivia Dehavilland's kid sister, Joan Fontaine.

Fund fact, they feuded most of their lives, and I don't believe either grew up in England at all, given their father was a diplomat in Japan, and they returned and lived in CA before the war...so where did they get their English accents?
Posted by: Boswell at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (32YRo)

Olivia DeHavilland was born in Tokyo, as you said the daughter of eeathly diplomats. I have no doubt she had the finest English private tutors as a child.

Im still astonished that she was born literally a few hours before the start of the Battle of the Somme and is still with us.

Posted by: Sir Ian Botham. at June 28, 2020 11:08 AM (89sl2)

370 Amazon and Abebooks (which are the same thing, really) allow you to sell used books on-line with minimum hassle.
Libraries sell used books there all the time to make a little money. So, if you don't want to sell them yourself, donate to the library so they can do it

Posted by: artemis at June 28, 2020 11:08 AM (AwPyG)

371 Our car is parked on the driveway because of the enormous recycling bin required by the city. It has to stay in the garage because of the HOA and I can't get it out between the car, the van, and the raised area with the freezer. I don't want to pull the van out just to get the bin out so the bin lives where the car would usually. The irony is that even with 5 of us we don't need such a big bin and the old style small one would have been fine.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 28, 2020 11:01 AM (uquGJ)


HOAs are canker sores on American civilization.

You should inform your HOA that your residence is now an autonomous zone and set up some concrete barriers.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 11:08 AM (k4bRG)

372 passed and two years ago.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 28, 2020 11:08 AM (QzF6i)

373 Kansas State football players are refusing to play until one (1) Kansas State student who posted a different opinion about Saint Floyd using his own individual social media account is dismissed from the school.

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OMG, the stupidity that is our country.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 11:06 AM (w6A0l)

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So much historical precedence for where this leads, and the literal students have no idea and have never been taught about it.

Matter of fact, they've probably been taught the opposite.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:08 AM (3w4SV)

374 For those wishing for a peak behind the scenes for animation there is William's The Animator's Survival Kit.

He got to learn from some of the masters at Disney and Warner Brothers. He was the director of animation for "Who Framed Roger Rabbit."

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 28, 2020 11:08 AM (krrgy)

375 Good morning Hordlings.
Those space-aged nappies would make snyones ass look big.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 28, 2020 11:08 AM (axyOa)

376 Yo yo, book morons!

Half Price Books used to carry a YUGE selection of the TIME Reading Program books for under dollar or just a bit over.

Now days, they probably just pulp them. Cuz I rarely see anything but last year's best seller hogging up the shelves.

Anywho, if you ever see a TIME Reading Program book, just buy it.

The novel is always a good one. And the quality of the cover, binding, and paper are excellent.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 28, 2020 11:08 AM (ysqzb)

377 Hey hordians, to round out some of my WWII reading can anyone make recommendations about what was going on with Japan?

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I quite liked Japan at War: An Oral History by Haruko and Theodore Cook. Two caveats. 1) Have a large box of tissues handy. The book does not white wash Japanese crimes but the suffering of the Japanese was also unimaginable. I was particularly moved by the Japanese school girls drafted to make the ballon bombs they launched against us. 2) Although I don't doubt the honesty of the various witnesses, I do doubt their accuracy. One was brain washed by the ChiComs and I don't believe the Saipan survivor's description of our poison gas use. Poison gas was certainly not US policy (although never underestimate the creativity of the frontline soldier). I suspect that what was here described as poison gas was in fact white phosphorus.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 11:08 AM (+y/Ru)

378 Heh.

My wife and I have a rule when deciding whether to keep or toss: If you hesitate, it goes.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 28, 2020 10:50 AM (WEBkv)

This is fine, unless you turn around and buy replacements for your "clutter". I know many people doing exactly this. They toss out "useless" old pots and pans only to purchase a set of overpriced Chinese made ones a month later. I suppose it felt virtuous and good when they did it and if that's how they want to spend their money, that's their issue.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 11:08 AM (ONvIw)

379 On Vmom's suggestion read the comments to a article I linked about where your woke breaking point.
In the comments was mentioned a book that looked interesting Life and Death in Shanghai about a womans struggle with the Chinese cultural revolution and she lived what we are going through.

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2020 11:09 AM (6f16T)

380 229 ... " JTB whats in Muzzleloader magazine?"

Hi Skip,
Muzzleloader has been out there for decades. It has articles on using traditional style BP guns as you would expect, a lot of articles about colonial and early American history, crafts and the craftsmen, new books on the subject, folks doing living history and how they acquired their knowledge and skills, etc. All accompanied by excellent photos and illustrations.

Older issues featured columns by Mark A. Baker (A Pilgrim's Journey, vols. 1 and 2) and Beth Gilgun (Tidings from the 18th Century).

Combine Muzzleloader with Backwoodsman magazine and Early American Life and you get a LOT of info on my favorite period of history.

Posted by: JTB at June 28, 2020 11:09 AM (7EjX1)

381 So with this sort of thing, it's about how to get clutter out of my life, I have no interest in getting cash back for any of it.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (hku12)

That only leaves burglary or arson.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 11:04 AM (k4bRG)


I've been working on learning how to cast spells, to send stuff to another dimension.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:10 AM (hku12)

382 Who dis is Olivia Dehavilland's kid sister, Joan Fontaine.

Fund fact, they feuded most of their lives, and I don't believe either grew up in England at all, given their father was a diplomat in Japan, and they returned and lived in CA before the war...so where did they get their English accents?
Posted by: Boswell at June 28, 2020


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Most kids adopt their mother's accent, so if she was English, that might explain it. Living in Japan and CA would have softened their sound, so the studio(s) they were under contract to might well have sent them to a dialect coach.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 28, 2020 11:10 AM (rpbg1)

383 De Havilland will always be a prototype to me. Melanie, the impossibly good character who was therefore doomed to die.

Posted by: artemis at June 28, 2020 11:11 AM (AwPyG)

384 OMG, the stupidity that is our country.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 11:06 AM (w6A0l)

So cancel their season, NOT the First Amendment.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 11:11 AM (ONvIw)

385 356 Who dis is Olivia Dehavilland's kid sister, Joan Fontaine.

Fund fact, they feuded most of their lives, and I don't believe either grew up in England at all, given their father was a diplomat in Japan, and they returned and lived in CA before the war...so where did they get their English accents?
Posted by: Boswell at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (32YRo)
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Though I don't think they were born there, their family comes from the Channel Islands. Related to the airplane designer.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 11:11 AM (LMs+g)

386 We didn't need poison gas in the Pacific.

We had napalm.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 28, 2020 11:12 AM (krrgy)

387 Fine K State. Don't play.

College and pro sports can't die soon enough.

Posted by: Children of the Banned at June 28, 2020 11:07 AM (Jk+3L)

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They will. They have to, because if they don't none of the womens sports will have funding. One game against a top team usually has millions of dollars for the sacrificial offering, and that's how the other non-competitive recreational teams pay for the entire year of sports throughout campus.

They'll kick that poor bastard out.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:12 AM (3w4SV)

388 As I understand it, Hitler's reason for invading Russia was based on a Theory. General Haushofer had a Theory that divided the world into regions. There's the "Periphery" -- the Americas, southern Africa, Australasis. There's the central zone -- Europe, India, China. And in the center of it all is the "Heartland" which is more or less the core of Russia (between the Urals and the Carpathians). Whoever controls that CONTROLS THE WORLD!

(Note that the fact that historically rulers of the Heartland have _not_ CONTROLLED THE WORLD doesn't matter. It's a German Theory with maps, so shaddap.)

Haushofer knew Hitler and showed him his maps. Let Britain and America have the periphery. Germany would march east to rule the Heartland and CONTROL THE WORLD!

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 11:12 AM (wL2ZV)

389 I have seen true pathological hoarders. They save used paper cups, tissue boxes, some can't bear to throw out nail clippings or ripped up t-shirts. Collecting books, albums, an such is not hoarding in the psychiatric sense.

Going through your purse everyday to purge a stray piece of paper seems like an OCD ritual, but might just be a "downsizing" virtue signal and an attempt to sell her theory
Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 10:06 AM (ONvIw)

I am not really a hoarder, but I am a saver. I keep things that might be useful. Comes from having parents that went through the Depression.

When my T-shirts get torn, they become "shop" shirts, only to be worn when I am messing about in the shop, or doing yard work. When they become too badly torn for that duty, they go in the rag pail.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 28, 2020 11:12 AM (ud4Gb)

390 I see the Kansas State Leftist Seminary is doing a great job turning out Leftists.

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2020 11:12 AM (6f16T)

391 How to stuff a wild bikini.
With Annette in a navel concealing two piece.
Posted by: Fox2! at June 28, 2020 11:00 AM (qyH+l)


I saw that movie when I was about 12. I thought the actress who played the Hawaiian girl was the sexiest woman I had ever seen. I couldn't stop thinking about her for weeks afterwards.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 11:13 AM (k4bRG)

392 Kansas State football players are refusing to play until one (1) Kansas State student who posted a different opinion about Saint Floyd using his own individual social media account is dismissed from the school.

Its so odd to me. Coaches used to be gods to these kids, and they lived in fear of losing their position on the team. Now they act like they own the place.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 11:13 AM (KZzsI)

393 What is Hitler, master race, and the Thule Society?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 28, 2020 11:14 AM (krrgy)

394 353 There, I said it. Money is such a stupid concept, and the more I have to think about it, the less I am enjoying life.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (hku12)

I find currency fascinating. Also - another chance to plug Neal Stephenson and Quicksilver. One of the key themes of the Baroque Cycle, of which Quicksilver is the first book, is the modernization of currency.

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 11:14 AM (X1xq4)

395 My church is studying a book called, "The Myth of Equality". D'angelo's book sounds similiar. Halfway through TMOE, and I've written enough notes to write my own book countering the author's argument. Can't wait for the discussion. I will include the Kafkatrap fallacy in my argument.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 28, 2020 11:15 AM (RMN7W)

396 I think you may have missed the point of my comment,
which was this: "I don't think Hitler had any real European or World
conquest dreams that he truly believed he could actually fulfill."





Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2020 11:01 AM (1YlHz)

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There is no question Hitler was an opportunist and exploited the fecklessness of the Western Allies to speed up his timetable.

But he was going to go east. It was the core of his movement, and the reason for his war machine's existence. He deeply believed that Germany would conquer the East or die out.

People forget that Germany already beat Russia in World War I, so they had every reason to believe they could do so again. Stalin's purges were signs of weakness, and his paranoia fueled the German sense that the whole rotten edifice would collapse, just as it had done in 1917.

Might Hitler have backed down over Danzig and the Polish Corridor if the Soviets entered into a defensive alliance with the West? Perhaps.

But the fate of the Czechs made that impossible, which brings us back to Munich.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 11:15 AM (cfSRQ)

397 I am not really a hoarder, but I am a saver. I keep things that might be useful. Comes from having parents that went through the Depression.

Same here. I wrote a series of posts on my blog that were quite popular (for my modest audience) based on the lessons I learned from my parents on living through a depression. I've considered working them into a book because I have suspected and felt for about a decade now that we are on the cusp of another one.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 11:15 AM (KZzsI)

398 JTB I really should take a crack at making a cartridge pouch

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2020 11:15 AM (6f16T)

399 Kansas State football players are refusing to play until one (1) Kansas State student who posted a different opinion about Saint Floyd using his own individual social media account is dismissed from the school.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (3w4SV)


That's nice, boys.

Now, say fellas, in state tuition is about $10K, out of state about $25K.

Since you're not playing sportsball for us, will you be writing a check or using your debit card?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:15 AM (hku12)

400 @379
I was listening to an author (can't remember her name) who wrote an account of her time in Iran at the fall of the Shah. She and her husband were typical university professors with a typically idealized view of the world. She described how shocked she was when the new rulers expected her to quit her job, wear a hijab, and surrender her passport. They had to flee by hiking cross country.

I think there are a lot of people in the same boat today.

Posted by: artemis at June 28, 2020 11:16 AM (AwPyG)

401 344 I remember Trapper John , M.D.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 28, 2020 10:59 AM (Z+IKu)


It lasted, what, 3 episodes?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 11:16 AM (k4bRG)

402 this link is to an index of Bullinger's appendix to his Companion Bible ... he has a lot of detail from the OT ... the whole of the appendix is linked from the index, a whole free book in itself.



https://tinyurl.com/y9qq494d

Posted by: illiniwek



One thing I've been investigating is the original meaning of each of the letters of the Hebrew alphabet and how those meanings reflect in biblical names.

For instance, G-d us just a generic Old English term for a deity, while YHWH, or Yahweh is His actual Hebrew name.

Likewise "Jesus" is just a Greco-ized and then Latinized version of the Hebrew name for YHWH's Son, Yeshua or Yashuah. "Jesus" is just a string of letters that make a particular sound, which we've decided is the name of our Savior. Yeshua or Yashuah is actually composed of Hebrew letters which mean "Yahweh's Messiah".

When either YHWH or Yeshua tell you to "call on Him by name", He means His actual name.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2020 11:17 AM (1YlHz)

403 Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 11:07 AM (UUBmN)

Our back gate, the logical place to do that, is on the far side from the kitchen door, so I hesitate to do that. This car is pretty old, but we're getting a new one soon so I might make the kids take the recycling around like that once the new one is here.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 28, 2020 11:17 AM (uquGJ)

404 The Kansas State that has won only 45% of the 1000 games they have played in their existence? What is OU going to do for chumps for change on their schedule?

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 28, 2020 11:17 AM (nFRLh)

405 Can we get K State on our schedule this year?

We need the money.

Posted by: Nick Saban, Multi-Millionaire at June 28, 2020 11:17 AM (Z+IKu)

406 Shows like AfterMASH and Trapper John MD were, I think, shelved projects that were dusted off and given a MASH skin as an attempt to cash in on the popularity of the show. And of course they cratered as a result.

Its kind of a law in TV, spinoffs almost never, ever work. There are very rare exceptions like The Jeffersons but its a pretty hard and fast rule.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 11:18 AM (KZzsI)

407 357 Holy crap.

Kansas State football players are refusing to play...

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How is this different from every year ?

Posted by: jsg at June 28, 2020 11:18 AM (3nKin)

408 Gravity's Rainbow by Pynchon- wow, I normally spend more effort vetting a book before I put a hold on it. It's very long with constant digressions. I did get glimpses of interest/enjoyment in the few hours I listened while cutting the lawn. But I know I can find and read at least 4 other more enjoyable/educational titles in the time it would take to finish this.
A few minutes going through reviews sealed the deal on a rare abandonment.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike

SPOILER ALERT!!!

The lengthy book devolves into a race to stop a mysterious warhead in a V-2 from being launched into England. Various clues are revealed as to what the warhead is. Finally, our hero discovers what it is but the reader is not told. I interpreted it as a pean to nihilism.c
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 10:12 AM (+y/Ru)



I loved "Gravity's Rainbow" ( and "V" for that matter) years ago when I first read it.

It was unlike anything that I'd ever read before.

But, that ending...Yeeesh.

It's the age old program of an author having an agenda which he uses to bend the story to his needs rather than using the agenda as a way to inform the story, so that the story grows organically.

In Pynchon's case, I believe that he wanted to apply the Physics principle of Entropy to history and "Great Events".

ie. In the end, all the heroics and villainy and great battles and personal sacrifices, etc all boil down to a uniform entropic mush that means nothing cuz it's all chaos anyway as time moves along.

That world's longest shaggy dog story or joke on the reader.

Ha ha ha ha ha...F' that.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 28, 2020 11:18 AM (ysqzb)

409 BLM is a 501c3 charitable organization, as such, it is prohibited from engaging in political campaigns.
BLM is a nakedly political organization, that is apparent to anyone with half a brain.
Close to $1billion donated so far, and all of those donors are writing off their donations.

Does anyone enforce the law anymore? Any law?

Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 28, 2020 11:18 AM (w7KSn)

410 they can appreciate gravity's rainbow and ugly modern art because they're better than the dolts who want stories with plots and beautiful art.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at June 28, 2020 10:52 AM (oWAzz)

Agree, and it's been that way since James Joyce. "Literary novels." I doubt they actually enjoy reading them, because nobody can, but they enjoy the thought of how advanced they are for reading them.

Posted by: Caliban at June 28, 2020 11:18 AM (QE8X6)

411 RE: Kansas State
Something similar was attempted at UCLA, and we know what happened at Oklahoma State.
It's too hard to believe that 18 year old kids who want to play in the NFL are pulling this stuff, I think it's an orchestrated attempt to ruin college football, which refuses to die like the NFL did.

Posted by: artemis at June 28, 2020 11:20 AM (AwPyG)

412 Who dis is Olivia Dehavilland's kid sister, Joan Fontaine.



Fund fact, they feuded most of their lives, and I don't believe
either grew up in England at all, given their father was a diplomat in
Japan, and they returned and lived in CA before the war...so where did
they get their English accents?

Posted by: Boswell at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (32YRo)

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Back in the day, the "American" accent had more variety, with stronger English and Irish pronunciation.

It was also something that aspiring people affected - English governess and all that. Diction was very important and people generally emulated the educated classes.

Now we do the opposite, which is how suburbanite, nominally educated white women affect to speak like they are from Compton or Chicago's housing protects.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 11:20 AM (cfSRQ)

413 in one of the series, that pbs runs from the bbc, closer to the enemy, which is about the british side of the post war, takes place in a hotel which is a debriefing site for ex nazis, there's one character played by alfred molina who styles himself as somekind of journalist, but he was actually with the foreign office in the period right before the war, he actually made the decision, not to go to the aid of the czechs, and hence froze out the anti Hitler faction in the army, the ones pope pius was working with before and after the start of the war, as mark riebling points out,

Posted by: thomas hobbes at June 28, 2020 11:21 AM (hMlTh)

414 409 BLM is a 501c3 charitable organization, as such, it is prohibited from engaging in political campaigns.
BLM is a nakedly political organization, that is apparent to anyone with half a brain.
Close to $1billion donated so far, and all of those donors are writing off their donations.

Does anyone enforce the law anymore? Any law?
Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 28, 2020 11:18 AM (w7KSn)

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Oh yes. When it suits the cause that is.

Posted by: Dinesh D'Souza at June 28, 2020 11:21 AM (89sl2)

415 Our back gate, the logical place to do that, is on the far side from the kitchen door, so I hesitate to do that. This car is pretty old, but we're getting a new one soon so I might make the kids take the recycling around like that once the new one is here.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
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My son hates it because it is far from the back door. Oh well! He only has to go out there about every other day and on Sunday since our pick up is Monday. I'm not storing my garbage in the garage and parking in the driveway.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 11:22 AM (UUBmN)

416 Joan Fontaine

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 08:48 AM (ONvIw)

You are correct, ma'am!


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional


***

Dang it!

All I could think of was Joan Blondell and couldn't get past that. Total brain cramp.

Where's my coffee!!!???

Posted by: Diogenes at June 28, 2020 11:22 AM (axyOa)

417 Close to $1billion donated so far, and all of those donors are writing off their donations.

I think they get around that by the fact that their donor page didn't actually give any money to BLM, but instead a Democratic Party organization who then gave most of it to Biden.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 11:22 AM (KZzsI)

418 Netflix has a DVD of Mitzi's television appearances called "Mitzi Gaynor: Razzle Dazzle!" that is fantastic. Great production numbers. Extras include Bob Mackie talking about the spectacularly sparkly outfits.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 11:22 AM (Dc2NZ)

419 Fine K State. Don't play.

College and pro sports can't die soon enough.

Posted by: Children of the Banned at June 28, 2020 11:07 AM (Jk+3L)

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They will. They have to, because if they don't none of the womens sports will have funding. One game against a top team usually has millions of dollars for the sacrificial offering, and that's how the other non-competitive recreational teams pay for the entire year of sports throughout campus.

They'll kick that poor bastard out.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:12 AM (3w4SV)


They sure will.

College sports used to have a purpose, and it's been so far removed from that purpose for decades now, it's absolutely amazing such a thing still exists.

You won't be getting black kids to play for "racist" colleges anymore. Or "paying" them with "just" tuition.

No, the institution is going to die an ignominious death. This year is done. If you have tickets to your local sportsball team, I'd cash them out now... if you can.

And parents of high skrewel kids, time to get your kids out of org sports. Now.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:23 AM (hku12)

420 Its kind of a law in TV, spinoffs almost never, ever
work. There are very rare exceptions like The Jeffersons but its a
pretty hard and fast rule.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 11:18 AM (KZzsI)

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Just off the top of my head:

Laverne and Shirley (Happy Days, which was American Graffitti on the small screen)
Facts of Life (Diff'rent Strokes)
Petticoat Junction (Green Acres)
Frasier (Cheers)

I'm sure there are more.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 11:24 AM (cfSRQ)

421 the thule was the real hydra, a pagan revivalist cult along nordic lines financed by major industrialists, I believe Dietrich eckart, who was hitler's dialogue coach, was a member,

Posted by: thomas hobbes at June 28, 2020 11:24 AM (hMlTh)

422 Do any of you still have high school yearbooks?

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Never bought 'em.

Posted by: SMH at June 28, 2020 11:25 AM (RU4sa)

423 Pretty sure John Carpenter killed Bob Crane. He was tried on the charge but acquitted. I think it was him based on blood evidence in Carpenter's rental car and the fact the two were in cahoots on some longstanding weird "videotaping our sex romps" shit.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2020 11:25 AM (1YlHz)

424 All I could think of was Joan Blondell and couldn't get past that. Total brain cramp.

Who can blame you ? Her name was even hot. Of course I'd want to date a woman named Joan Blondell.

Posted by: Children of the Banned at June 28, 2020 11:27 AM (Jk+3L)

425 I'm sure there are more.

Yeah you can think of exceptions but when you look at all the attempts at spinoffs, the great majority were failures.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 11:27 AM (KZzsI)

426 Thanks again for a delightful Book Thread, OM.

I didn't buy or place any books on hold this week, for a change!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 11:27 AM (Dc2NZ)

427 Hopefully, you folks realize that the reason the left is trying to ruin popular sports like football is the same reason that churches were last on the list to open, and the same reason they want us at least "6 feet" apart.

They don't want conservatives gathering where they can spend time talking to each other.
That's the reason. So, whether you like sports or not (or go to church or not) you should fight this oppression tooth and nail.

Posted by: artemis at June 28, 2020 11:27 AM (AwPyG)

428 They don't want conservatives gathering where they can spend time talking to each other about unapproved, non-political, fun subjects.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 11:29 AM (Dc2NZ)

429 College sports used to have a purpose, and it's been so far removed from that purpose for decades now, it's absolutely amazing such a thing still exists.

Bread and circuses, baby. I think most of America just wants to be fed, housed, and entertained.

I gotta' go build a shack in the mountains or something. I am well and truly sick of this shit.

Posted by: Children of the Banned at June 28, 2020 11:30 AM (Jk+3L)

430 There's a C.S. Lewis essay about Hamlet which applies to all literature. He talks about all the critiques of Hamlet, which vary to the point that they almost seem to be about different plays. But what keeps everyone coming back to Hamlet is that _it's a good story_. You want to know what happens next.

Same with Moby-Dick. Forget all the crap your high school English teacher told you about symbolism and God. It's a _good story_. Same with War and Peace.

You've got to have a story to tell.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 11:30 AM (wL2ZV)

431 Outright fraud in San Francisco, with a soupcon of secrecy and a ladle of press restriction; tinyurl.com/hotelhomeless

Posted by: scottst at June 28, 2020 11:30 AM (c1qKx)

432 Do any of you still have high school yearbooks?


*raises hand sheepishly*

Yes. But the papyrus is in remarkably good shape.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 28, 2020 11:30 AM (HaL55)

433 Yeah you can think of exceptions but when you look at all the attempts at spinoffs, the great majority were failures.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 11:27 AM (KZzsI)

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The majority of all shows fail.

To prove your point, you'd have to show that spinoffs are less likely to fail.

I don't think that's the case. I think spinoffs are more successful and that is why they keep using them. They have a built-in audience using familiar characters.
*UPDATE*

Okay, I looked at the wikipedia page and it appears that spinoffs are a dominant ratings/cultural force.

We remember the failures because the successes achieve their own identity and we forget where they came from.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 11:31 AM (cfSRQ)

434
Yeah, you can rack up athletics as yet another kill for the unstoppable Left.

And, I was kind of intrigued by Kondo's ideas, but not anymore. That nonsense about 30 books means she's a maniac.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 28, 2020 11:31 AM (oJN+m)

435 I despised high school.

Why would I want books of people I plan on never seeing again?

Posted by: SMH at June 28, 2020 11:31 AM (RU4sa)

436 So cancel their season, NOT the First Amendment.

Posted by: CN




"Wooops! There goes your chance at the NFL draft!"


Ahh, the glory of unintended consequences. Stupidity should be, and often is, painful.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2020 11:32 AM (1YlHz)

437 So...Kansas State does have a football team after all!

Posted by: Boswell



Not really. At least not so as you'd actually notice.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2020 11:33 AM (1YlHz)

438 I just realized the "soy sauce" I just doused my left-over sushi with was Worcestershire sauce.
Fug it.
Nom, nom, nom

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 28, 2020 11:33 AM (7Fj9P)

439 Yes. But the papyrus is in remarkably good shape.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 28, 2020 11:30 AM (HaL55)


You had papyrus? Luxury! We had to tote around clay tables with cuneiform! "Will you sign my yearbook?" Get out the chisel, whack whack, AVGFA, fine. Here you go. Bah!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 28, 2020 11:33 AM (PiwSw)

440 Ecclesiastes 1:9 covered spinoffs pretty well.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 28, 2020 11:33 AM (nFRLh)

441 Leftism destroys everything it touches, sports is just another goal reached.

Posted by: Skip at June 28, 2020 11:33 AM (6f16T)

442 They don't want conservatives gathering where they can spend time talking to each other.
That's the reason. So, whether you like sports or not (or go to church or not) you should fight this oppression tooth and nail.
Posted by: artemis at June 28, 2020 11:27 AM (AwPyG)


Meh. I fail to see how college sports any sort of realm for "conservatives."

If "conservatives" want to gather, find somewhere else. Everything associated with universities is part of the left.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:34 AM (hku12)

443 they can appreciate gravity's rainbow and ugly modern art because they're better than the dolts who want stories with plots and beautiful art.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at June 28, 2020 10:52 AM (oWAzz)

Agree, and it's been that way since James Joyce. "Literary novels." I doubt they actually enjoy reading them, because nobody can, but they enjoy the thought of how advanced they are for reading them.
Posted by: Caliban at June 28, 2020 11:18 AM (QE8X6)


This is errant nonsense which has been going on since Cervantes. I don't like Gravity's Rainbow but there are people who honestly do.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 28, 2020 11:34 AM (y7DUB)

444 That's the reason. So, whether you like sports or not (or go to church or not) you should fight this oppression tooth and nail.
Posted by: artemis at June 28, 2020 11:27 AM (AwPyG)

Amen.

Pun intended.

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 11:34 AM (X1xq4)

445 Leftism destroys everything it touches, sports is just another goal reached.

ISWYDT

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 28, 2020 11:35 AM (HaL55)

446 College sports used to have a purpose, and it's been so far removed from that purpose for decades now, it's absolutely amazing such a thing still exists.
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Bread and circuses, baby. I think most of America just wants to be fed, housed, and entertained.

I gotta' go build a shack in the mountains or something. I am well and truly sick of this shit.
Posted by: Children of the Banned at June 28, 2020 11:30 AM (Jk+3L)


Bread and circuses that fund the greatest single threat to Western Civ: universities.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:36 AM (hku12)

447 I love Calvin and Hobbes

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 28, 2020 11:36 AM (d1uFV)

448 Leftism is a disease. Local rag today was nothing but scolding karen's bitching about not wearing mask.

re K state. Guess kids today don't get dark humor.

Posted by: Infidel at June 28, 2020 11:37 AM (PWFH5)

449 Regarding spinoffs, there's two kinds, really.

The True Spinoff is when one or more characters from a successful show are spun off into a new show, possibly when the lead of the old show quits. Examples: the aforementioned Trapper John MD, The Jeffersons, Good Times, Lou Grant. A more recent variant is a cast of new characters in the same fictional universe, as with the various Star Trek spinoff series, Torchwood, etc.

Then there's the Embedded Pilot, which is where the core show has an episode which centers on a guest character, who then goes off to his or her own show. Examples include Mork & Mindy, Maude, etc.

I suspect True Spinoffs have a better success rate than Embedded Pilots, because most of the EP examples I can think of (beyond the ones I mentioned) are failures.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 11:38 AM (wL2ZV)

450 OM, thanks as always for this week's installment of The Greatest of All Threads.

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 11:38 AM (X1xq4)

451 re K state. Guess kids today don't get dark humor.
Posted by: Infidel at June 28, 2020 11:37 AM (PWFH5)


You can't say dark.

Dark is not on the approved list that just came out today.

You sir, are CANCELLED!

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:39 AM (hku12)

452 re K state. Guess kids today don't get dark humor.

If K State receives any federal dollars, can they punish a student for exercising his right to free speech?

I wonder if anyone has written any books about that issue.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 28, 2020 11:39 AM (HaL55)

453 They don't want conservatives gathering where they can spend time talking to each other.

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I'm not joking when I say there are probably people actively trying to make real-world connections on fairly obscure internet sites for the Kansas State goal. Not just Ace and CBD and JJ, but Moron Robbie and the people inside the discusion links.

I don't remember it, but some moron posted the German word for exactly what is going on re: enforcing conformity.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:40 AM (3w4SV)

454 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 11:15 AM (KZzsI)

Do it. We need voices to combat the idea that prosperity is permanent and that we can always replace anything.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 11:40 AM (ONvIw)

455 450 OM, thanks as always for this week's installment of The Greatest of All Threads.
Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 11:38 AM (X1xq4)
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It's also a mass striptease. Everyone starts in pants but ends up nude.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 11:40 AM (LMs+g)

456 You can't say dark.
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You can't say "black humor" either. "Gallows humor", maybe, except Death Penalty!!!.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 11:40 AM (Dc2NZ)

457 Trapper John M. D. ran f o r seven seasons. Seems reasonably successful.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at June 28, 2020 11:40 AM (4zyav)

458 ""Do any of you still have high school yearbooks?
""

I have mine. I remember as a kid looking at my parent's yearbooks. They had this certain smell to them, like aged. I looked at mine not too long ago and it had the same smell, and I realized it was actually older than my parent's yearbooks were when I looked at them as a kid. Yeah, it did suck.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2020 11:41 AM (9Om/r)

459 re K state. Guess kids today don't get dark humor.

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I think that's a big part of the problem, honestly. They don't get ANY humor that isn't pre-approved. This caring, educated, tolerant generation that was raised on tolerance is the most strict, ignorant, and intolerant group of people I've ever seen.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:42 AM (3w4SV)

460
Does anyone enforce the law anymore? Any law?
Posted by: attila the thrilla at June 28, 2020 11:18 AM (w7KSn)


Not if it cramps the left, but they will invent new crimes to hurt us.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 11:42 AM (ONvIw)

461 Burt, then I should have just gone with my first option. Black humor. heh

Posted by: Infidel at June 28, 2020 11:43 AM (PWFH5)

462 I don't remember it, but some moron posted the German word for exactly what is going on re: enforcing conformity.

I think that word is "German."

Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2020 11:43 AM (ZfRYq)

463 gleischastaung, coordination, along ideological lines, I remember that from a high school sociology text.

Posted by: thomas hobbes at June 28, 2020 11:43 AM (hMlTh)

464 Its funny I looked a the library photo and had a thought like Kondo. We must have 3,000 books in our house, most gathering dust or used as decoration. Made me wonder which books are actually repeatedly used, cook books, reference books and a few favorites.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 28, 2020 11:43 AM (r+sAi)

465 The modern left's humorlessness is its defining characteristic. All other evils flow from that.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at June 28, 2020 11:44 AM (ja/kn)

466 We have been in our house 10 years now. It is the longest I've ever lived in one place. I have the stirring of a huge purge. In the past I'd move and get rid of stuff. Now I just need to get rid of stuff. We also need to paint and do repairs from having 3 kids and the pets....

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 11:44 AM (UUBmN)

467 Aren't most college athletes on scholarships? Especially the football players as they bring in considerable revenue to the college? If college sports are all being cancelled, as well as on campus classes, aren't these players out of luck? I have a friend whose daughter was a champion gymnast. She had a fulll boat scholarship. When she got injured and couldn;t perform, they pulled her scholarship.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 28, 2020 11:45 AM (QzF6i)

468 I don't remember it, but some moron posted the German word for exactly what is going on re: enforcing conformity.

I think that word is "German."
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2020 11:43 AM (ZfRYq)
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Gleichschaltung

Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at June 28, 2020 11:45 AM (4zyav)

469 Speaking of humor these two clips in the sidebar are tasteless and no one should be doing that.

But they are comedy genius.

Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2020 11:45 AM (ZfRYq)

470 And, I was kind of intrigued by Kondo's ideas, but not anymore. That nonsense about 30 books means she's a maniac.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 28, 2020 11:31 AM (oJN+m)

Talking to her belongings and hearing voices are enough for me. But talking to her belongings indicates that she has a deeper emotional attachment to "stuff" than nearly everyone on the planet.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 11:46 AM (ONvIw)

471 Ah, lin-duh, I feel your pain.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 28, 2020 11:46 AM (QzF6i)

472 This caring, educated, tolerant generation that was
raised on tolerance is the most strict, ignorant, and intolerant group
of people I've ever seen.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:42 AM (3w4SV)

A completely lost and worthless generation. They actually make me wish there was a world war to dispose of them at the front.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2020 11:46 AM (9Om/r)

473 "Gallows humor", maybe, except Death Penalty!!!.
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What do you tie to a gallows, cracker? A noose, that's what!
Ain't nothin' funny 'bout nooses, whitey!

Posted by: Bubba Smollett at June 28, 2020 11:47 AM (7Fj9P)

474 I think that word is "German."
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2020 11:43 AM (ZfRYq)
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Gleichschaltung
Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at June 28, 2020 11:45 AM (4zyav)


I think there is a German word for "not getting the joke."

Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2020 11:47 AM (ZfRYq)

475 Currently reading The Mirror and the Light, the third and final book in Hilary Mantel's Thomas Cromwell trilogy. It's been a long time since I read Wolf Hall and Bring Up the Bodies, but it seems to me that Mirror is written in a different style than the first two. It's written from Cromwell's POV, but it's a very impersonal third person that frequently leaves me confused as to who is speaking. But, I've been waiting for this book for five or more years, so I will finish it or die in the attempt.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at June 28, 2020 11:47 AM (aHOHe)

476 468 I don't remember it, but some moron posted the German word for exactly what is going on re: enforcing conformity.

I think that word is "German."
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2020 11:43 AM (ZfRYq)
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Gleichschaltung
Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at June 28, 2020 11:45 AM (4zyav)


Good Choiman online reference:

https://dict.leo.org/german-english/Gleichschaltung

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 28, 2020 11:47 AM (PiwSw)

477 Ahoy, bookfagz!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 28, 2020 11:48 AM (NWiLs)

478

After M*A*S*H came AfterMASH.
After AfterMASH came W*A*L*T*E*R

www.imdb.com/title/tt0203189

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2020 11:48 AM (aKsyK)

479 474 I think that word is "German."
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2020 11:43 AM (ZfRYq)
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Gleichschaltung
Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at June 28, 2020 11:45 AM (4zyav)

I think there is a German word for "not getting the joke."
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2020 11:47 AM (ZfRYq)

Whooshenuberkopf.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 28, 2020 11:48 AM (NWiLs)

480 Thanks for the German help, guys.

Just for fun, NC's (D) governor has mandated masks everywhere in public. From the FAQs:

"Q: What if I am a person with hearing loss and am concerned about not being able to
read lips?

A: ...Try finding a cloth face covering that has a
clear plastic area that allows the lips to be visible"

O_o

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:48 AM (3w4SV)

481 Hey Insom.

Posted by: SMH at June 28, 2020 11:48 AM (RU4sa)

482 You can't say dark.
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You can't say "black humor" either. "Gallows humor", maybe, except Death Penalty!!!.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 11:40 AM (Dc2NZ)


We're gonna love this new English. By the time we're done, there will be about 140 approved words.

So most communication will have to occur with a series of varying tones of grunts, and by either burning people/stuff or having sex with people or objects with which one approves.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:49 AM (hku12)

483 481 Hey Insom.
Posted by: SMH at June 28, 2020 11:48 AM (RU4sa)


Heya SMH!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 28, 2020 11:49 AM (NWiLs)

484 Q: What if I am a person with hearing loss and am concerned about not being able to
read lips?

A: ...Try finding a cloth face covering that has a
clear plastic area that allows the lips to be visible"


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Be sure to bring enough for everybody.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2020 11:50 AM (wPVhA)

485 Do any of you still have high school yearbooks?

Mrs. Muse and I both have ours.

Haven't opened them in years, though.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 11:50 AM (k4bRG)

486 What do you tie to a gallows, cracker? A noose, that's what!
Ain't nothin' funny 'bout nooses, whitey!
Posted by: Bubba Smollett

22nd place is pretty funny.

Posted by: Infidel at June 28, 2020 11:50 AM (PWFH5)

487 Also pools and waterparks in NC are fine to remain open.

Go ahead and explain that to me.*





* That's a joke. I know it's all about the mail in voting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:50 AM (3w4SV)

488 Do any of you still have high school yearbooks?

Mrs. Muse and I both have ours.

Haven't opened them in years, though.


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 11:50 AM (k4bRG)


They will creak when you do, trust me.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2020 11:51 AM (9Om/r)

489 Be sure to bring enough for everybody.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2020 11:50 AM (wPVhA)

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Yep. It's not the deaf person who needs the mask.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:51 AM (3w4SV)

490 Aren't most college athletes on scholarships? Especially the football players as they bring in considerable revenue to the college? If college sports are all being cancelled, as well as on campus classes, aren't these players out of luck? I have a friend whose daughter was a champion gymnast. She had a fulll boat scholarship. When she got injured and couldn;t perform, they pulled her scholarship.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 28, 2020 11:45 AM (QzF6i)


Personally experience, I don't know any woman who played college sports, or anyone who has daughters who played college sports who didn't end up tearing up their bodies one way or another.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:51 AM (hku12)

491 I did just order a box of 3mm contractor bags...and the city is picking up the extra garbage at no extra charge while this COVID thing is going on...I have so many old toys and kids clothes to get rid of. I don't even care about trying to sort for donating. I just want it gone.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 11:51 AM (UUBmN)

492 I have my High School annual.Those were my glory days. I was Captain of two sports ball teams, had numerous photos of me playing ball in the annual, was Mr. Senior and dated two County Fair Queens. It was a small school. To my credit I had a very diverse group of friends, nerds, dweebs and the like. Graduated in 1963. Collage was a shock.

Posted by: Javems at June 28, 2020 11:51 AM (ofIwF)

493 Q: What if I am a person with hearing loss and am concerned about not being able to
read lips?

A: ...Try finding a cloth face covering that has a
clear plastic area that allows the lips to be visible"


---------

Be sure to bring enough for everybody.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2020 11:50 AM (wPVhA)


Nah, just when you get done talking to someone, have them give you back the mask, and then give it to the next person you want to talk to.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:52 AM (hku12)

494 I did just order a box of 3mm contractor bags...and the city is picking up the extra garbage at no extra charge while this COVID thing is going on...I have so many old toys and kids clothes to get rid of. I don't even care about trying to sort for donating. I just want it gone.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 11:51 AM (UUBmN)

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If you've got Lego I'll pay shipping and gas to drop it off. I'm serious. My son loves the stuff.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:53 AM (3w4SV)

495 Until recently I would have agreed -- in theory, at least -- that one should get rid of books you're unlikely to read again.

HOWEVER in the past six months I've had about four occasions on which I needed a book that I'd either gotten rid of or put in the "to get rid of" pile.

So from now on my answer is no. Keep the books. Keep them all.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 11:54 AM (wL2ZV)

496 Haven't opened them in years, though.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 11:50 AM (k4bRG)

I have mine and it did have one very useful moment. When kid 2 was in college, the feminist prof insisted that women of my generation were discouraged from having "professional interests". Some of the pages on academics, and career days, highlighted her ignorance. The old Life magazines from the 40s also made her feel pretty silly, as there were large articles celebrating women remaining on the job after the war.

Erasing our personal histories (as well as national ones) does harm, IMO.

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 11:54 AM (ONvIw)

497 455 450 OM, thanks as always for this week's installment of The Greatest of All Threads.
Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 11:38 AM (X1xq4)
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It's also a mass striptease. Everyone starts in pants but ends up nude.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 11:40 AM (LMs+g)


Ummm...

How about 'no'?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 11:54 AM (k4bRG)

498 443 they can appreciate gravity's rainbow and ugly modern art because they're better than the dolts who want stories with plots and beautiful art.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at June 28, 2020 10:52 AM (oWAzz)

Agree, and it's been that way since James Joyce. "Literary novels." I doubt they actually enjoy reading them, because nobody can, but they enjoy the thought of how advanced they are for reading them.
Posted by: Caliban at June 28, 2020 11:18 AM (QE8X6)

This is errant nonsense which has been going on since Cervantes. I don't like Gravity's Rainbow but there are people who honestly do.
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 28, 2020 11:34 AM (y7DUB)



Meh. I don't buy into this at all, at least for myself.

I enjoyed "Gravity's Rainbow" ( and "V' for that matter) because I'd read nothing like it before and -

One, I wanted to see how he Pynchon did what he did.(writing wise)

Two, as a STEM guy, I appreciated all the science that he was folding into the story, subtly and otherwise.

Three, "GR" was universally hailed as a "Great Novel". It got the full log-rolling treatment by everyone. Hell, in those days, Nabokov even got the full log-rolling treatment as a popular author. Think about that for a second.

And to complete the circle Pynchon was a student of Nabokov. So, idiosyncratic novels by him shouldn't be a huge shock.

Just to see how good "Gravity's Rainbow" actually is, all you need to do is read some of the spate of Pynchon Imitation Novels that came down the pike a few years later.

Stuff like "Ratner's Star" by Don DeLillo or "The Public Burning" by Robert Coover.

Give those two a stroll around your brain pan.

And those are two of the better one's.

In fact, even Pynchon couldn't do Pynchon anymore after "Gravity's Rainbow".

Anywho, that's a long-winded way to say people generally read what they like.

At the time, I like "Gravity's Rainbow" as a novel, for itself. Bite me.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 28, 2020 11:55 AM (ysqzb)

499 I think that word is "German."
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That's like the story of the German standing on a deserted street at 2 a.m.
Waiting for the crosswalk light to change.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 28, 2020 11:55 AM (7Fj9P)

500 WTH? St. Jude commercial with a cute little black girl who survived cancer is wearing a green dress with watermelon on it. Is that approved?

Posted by: Infidel at June 28, 2020 11:55 AM (PWFH5)

501 I think Kondo uses the "goodbye old sweater" thing as a psychology tool to help the hoarders. But a lot of her advice is of the live simply type, which I am appreciating more the older I get.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 28, 2020 11:55 AM (r+sAi)

502 So from now on my answer is no. Keep the books. Keep them all.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 11:54 AM (wL2ZV)

In the future only editions edited by SJWs may be available. Easier in digital copies

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 11:55 AM (ONvIw)

503 If you've got Lego I'll pay shipping and gas to drop it off. I'm serious. My son loves the stuff.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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I have several thousand dollars worth of LEGO, I even have a bunch of the instruction manuals. Where are you located?

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 11:55 AM (UUBmN)

504 Until recently I would have agreed -- in theory, at least -- that one should get rid of books you're unlikely to read again.

HOWEVER in the past six months I've had about four occasions on which I needed a book that I'd either gotten rid of or put in the "to get rid of" pile.

So from now on my answer is no. Keep the books. Keep them all.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 11:54 AM (wL2ZV)


And remember, in an apocalypse, zombie or otherwise, books will be good fort making material.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 11:56 AM (hku12)

505
Then there's the Embedded Pilot, which is where the core show has an episode which centers on a guest character, who then goes off to his or her own show. Examples include Mork & Mindy, Maude, etc.

The Andy Griffith Show

www.imdb.com/title/tt0639971

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 28, 2020 11:56 AM (aKsyK)

506 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 28, 2020 11:55 AM (r+sAi)

True hoarders have brain dysfunction, a polite farewell will not work

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 11:56 AM (ONvIw)

507 When kid 2 was in college, the feminist prof insisted that women of my generation were discouraged from having "professional interests".

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Did she ever discuss how 30%-50% of the population entering the workforce en masse halved real wages and made it so that both parents HAD to work to maintain the lifestyle that a single earner could provide before that?

Yay equality!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:56 AM (3w4SV)

508 Mom bought me the Time-Life WW I I series. They were issued monthly. I managed to grab her The West series before she died

Posted by: Beartooth at June 28, 2020 11:57 AM (A5uIJ)

509 492 To my credit I had a very diverse group of friends, nerds, dweebs and the like. Graduated in 1963. Collage was a shock.
Posted by: Javems at June 28, 2020 11:51 AM (ofIwF)

Still have my HS yearbook. I went to high school in a rural coastal Florida town in the late '80's. HS was a truly eclectic mix of surfers, skaters, rednecks (true 4H cattle-rearing kids), athletes, and nerds. Also our town was 50% black and so was our high school.

Everyone in my senior class got along. There was always friction between various groups but that usually worked itself out by 10th grade. It was usually specific personal issues and not one whole group vs. another.

Posted by: Clontarf (formerly parsimony) at June 28, 2020 11:58 AM (X1xq4)

510 Pynchon is certainly a good writer. But _Rainbow_ went on too long, like a joke that he'd forgotten the punch line to. Compare its bloat to _Crying of Lot 49_, which accomplishes most of the same objectives in about a third the length.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 11:58 AM (wL2ZV)

511 If you've got Lego I'll pay shipping and gas to drop it off. I'm serious. My son loves the stuff.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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I have several thousand dollars worth of LEGO, I even have a bunch of the instruction manuals. Where are you located?
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 11:55 AM (UUBmN)
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I see a quarter-scale Death Star in MR's future...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at June 28, 2020 11:58 AM (4zyav)

512 Silent Spring should be on that list of the 50 worst.

It was required reading for me as an incoming Freshman at College.

I imagine it still is; and it's still BS.

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at June 28, 2020 11:59 AM (RKQ/v)

513 Do any of you still have high school yearbooks?

Of course. Who wouldn't want mementos of the four worst years of ones life?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 28, 2020 11:59 AM (qc+VF)

514 I have several thousand dollars worth of LEGO, I even have a bunch of the instruction manuals. Where are you located?

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 11:55 AM (UUBmN)

NC. Here's a throwaway 10 minute email address for public posting and I'll send you my real one privately.

ctztvakpywfqwkyinx@ttirv.net

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 12:00 PM (3w4SV)

515 Mom bought me the Time-Life WW I I series. They were issued monthly. I managed to grab her The West series before she died
Posted by: Beartooth at June 28, 2020 11:57 AM (A5uIJ)


I've borrowed things from my mom, movies mostly, and she's very insistent on getting them back.

I think in part to ward off the "she's not going to be around much longer, so I might as well hold onto this" mentality from taking hold among her offspring.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 12:00 PM (hku12)

516 Silent Spring should be on that list of the 50 worst.

It was required reading for me as an incoming Freshman at College.

I imagine it still is; and it's still BS.
Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at June 28, 2020 11:59 AM (RKQ/v)

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It belongs in the Scientific Fraud section with Ehrlich's The Population Bomb, another sack of crap that was required reading in college.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 28, 2020 12:00 PM (wPVhA)

517 A: ...Try finding a cloth face covering that has a
clear plastic area that allows the lips to be visible"

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Good news, everybody! Shamwow is now selling Shamwow face masks!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 12:01 PM (+y/Ru)

518 One use for old yearbooks: to remind you which classmates you thought were hot.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 12:01 PM (wL2ZV)

519 I see a quarter-scale Death Star in MR's future...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at June 28, 2020 11:58 AM (4zyav)

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I've got a special needs son who doesn't play with much, but he LOVES lego. He builds things as tall as he can, and it's easy to run out quickly. I'm always on the lookout for it at yard sales and the like.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 12:01 PM (3w4SV)

520 I think there is a German word for "not getting the joke."
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2020 11:47 AM (ZfRYq)
______

I doubt that. Fish don't know they're wet.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 28, 2020 12:02 PM (LMs+g)

521 A: ...Try finding a cloth face covering that has a
clear plastic area that allows the lips to be visible"

-
Good news, everybody! Shamwow is now selling Shamwow face masks!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 28, 2020 12:01 PM (+y/Ru)


Two words: Clear. Flex. Tape.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 12:02 PM (hku12)

522 >>Silent Spring should be on that list of the 50 worst.

That book was written based on a letter to the Boston Herald newspaper. That was the sum total of the "science" in the book.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 28, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)

523 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 12:01 PM (3w4SV)

I guess that line in your nic means the libs want black people to die!!!!!!!!!!!!eleventy!!!!

Posted by: CN at June 28, 2020 12:03 PM (ONvIw)

524 CBD HAS A NOOD

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at June 28, 2020 12:03 PM (6f16T)

525 I've got a special needs son who doesn't play with much, but he LOVES lego. He builds things as tall as he can, and it's easy to run out quickly. I'm always on the lookout for it at yard sales and the like.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 12:01 PM (3w4SV)
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Great! It's good that he has something that engages him.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at June 28, 2020 12:03 PM (4zyav)

526 Statue thread up top.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 28, 2020 12:03 PM (hku12)

527 I must be one of the few people that loved high school. I have my yearbooks, in some box with some other stuff that I haven't opened in a couple of decades.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 28, 2020 12:03 PM (r+sAi)

528 gleischastaung, coordination, along ideological lines, I remember that from a high school sociology text.
Posted by: thomas hobbes at June 28, 2020 11:43 AM (hMlTh)

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It's Gleichschaltung.

It isn't really a sociological phenomenon, though. It's a specifically political one, and the use of force is directly stated in the word itself. It translates roughly as "shifting into an identicalness." And that isn't a passive use of a verb - it means shift in the active form.

What's happened in the US certainly is sociological and organic (not that the left hasn't dumped fertilizer into the soil). And the end result is exactly the same, except that it is somehow even MOAR totalitarian. I think Goebbels would look at the American media complex of the 21st century with naked envy, in much the same way as the Ceausescu's Securitate apparatchiks would look at out surveillance state.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 28, 2020 12:04 PM (oJN+m)

529 My year books are long gone. I still have mom and dad's. Two different HS in Long Beach, CA. One is the very first year book of Millikan HS.

Posted by: Infidel at June 28, 2020 12:04 PM (PWFH5)

530 Moron Robbie,
Email deployed...

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 12:06 PM (UUBmN)

531 Silent Spring should be on that list of the 50 worst.

It should be, but it's only referenced in the discussion of another book, The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money by John Maynard Keynes. Which is described as "This book did for Big Government what Rachel Carson's Silent Spring did for the tse-tse fly."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 12:07 PM (k4bRG)

532 The Iowa State Law Library in the capital is also a very beautiful law library.

https://www.statelibraryofiowa.org/services/collections/law-library

Posted by: Pat Charles at June 28, 2020 12:08 PM (acz2Z)

533 Haitian Beast on alibris :

Tinyurl.com/Haitianbeast

Scroll down for Time version

Posted by: scottst at June 28, 2020 12:08 PM (c1qKx)

534 So from now on my answer is no. Keep the books. Keep them all.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 11:54 AM (wL2ZV)

The Wife has an MBA and wanted to toss all her books from school. I told her she was insane, and that you don't get rid of books. I won the argument, colander face mask world over ruled a few less tubs in the basement. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2020 12:09 PM (9Om/r)

535 I saw some comment on the movie thread about this, so I'll chime in here. Don't worry, it's book related:

June 25 marked the 70th anniversary of the Korean War. When I moved there to serve my one-year stint there, I thought to read up on this history of the war there. "This Kind Of War" by T.R. Fehrenbach came highly recommended, so I bought my own copy and got to work on it. It was enjoyable, sobering, and quite readable. And considering Mr. Fehrenbach wrote it in the early 1960s - soon after the armistice - it is a good work of history, and best of all, Mr. Fehrenbach is a man after my own heart (or perhaps before it, as he was alive well before I was even thought of): he is a smartass. He is eloquent about it, but there are passages in the book dripping with sarcasm.

If you have not read "This Kind of War", I recommend it.

People here don't care for Max Hastings, but I found his "The Korean War" to be good - though not as good as Fehrenbach's book.

"The Two Koreas" by Ken Oberdorfer is good if you want an overview of the war, a brief overview of Korean history, and an in-depth look at the Korean peninsula after 1953.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 28, 2020 12:12 PM (ejsiI)

536 The Wife has an MBA and wanted to toss all her books from school. I told her she was insane, and that you don't get rid of books. I won the argument, colander face mask world over ruled a few less tubs in the basement. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 28, 2020 12:09 PM (9Om/r)

I still have all my books from my days as a history student in college.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 28, 2020 12:13 PM (ejsiI)

537 513 Do any of you still have high school yearbooks?

Of course. Who wouldn't want mementos of the four worst years of ones life?
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 28, 2020 11:59 AM (qc+VF)

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I was one of tow black kids in my high school in Hawaii.

Yeah, sure, I want a memento of some of the most racist shit I ever encountered..

Posted by: SMH at June 28, 2020 12:14 PM (RU4sa)

538 274 I finished reading James Ellroy's L.A. Confidential.

Ellroy can be pretty intense, so I read Dave Barry's Big Trouble and Tricky Business (AGAIN !)
Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 10:36 AM

Hi JT- you mentioned Big Trouble last night and I realized that I have it in my collection. Based on your recommendation, I am going to read it as soon as I finish my civil war reading stack. I also find that I need an "intensity break" after reading detailed non-fiction.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 28, 2020 12:15 PM (qe5CM)

539 Moron Robbie,
Email deployed...

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 12:06 PM (UUBmN)

thanks, just replied.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 12:15 PM (3w4SV)

540 our local library. It saves me money. Is very easy to use, allows me to ignore Amazon AND it doesn't contribute to my clutter. Win-win I say!
Posted by: Cheriebebe at June 28, 2020 09:45 AM (w6A0l)

Yes, a win on all counts. Including ignoring Amazon; Bozos wants to rule the world.

Posted by: FloridaMan at June 28, 2020 12:15 PM (vU2Np)

541 my high school class had like 500 students ... looking at the yearbook many years ago, I was surprised how few I knew, or remembered at least. My "advanced math" was the same 30 or so kids each year, but I wondered if the other classes were also maybe separated without kids knowing it, maybe separating college bound or something. Or maybe there was a lot of "self segregation" ... or maybe I was just not paying attention, or didn't care ... idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 28, 2020 12:16 PM (Cus5s)

542 Our car is parked on the driveway because of the
enormous recycling bin required by the city.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 28, 2020 11:01 AM (uquGJ)


"One of the reasons that the area would never be renovated, however, was the council's insistence that each house had three large plastic trash-bins on wheels, each a bright color: green for the bottles left over from last night's drunken orgy, red for stolen goods now surplus to requirements, purple for dead bodies and used syringes, all in fact that a modern British urban household needs to disembarrass itself of." --Theodore Dalrymple, Farewell Fear

Posted by: cool breeze at June 28, 2020 12:18 PM (UGKMd)

543
"Q: What if I am a person with hearing loss and am concerned about not being able to
read lips?

A: ...Try finding a cloth face covering that has a
clear plastic area that allows the lips to be visible"

O_o
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:48 AM (3w4SV)


Cut a hole where the mouth is. Then paint around the hole to make look like a vay jay. You'll be praised for your wokeness.

Posted by: Sooner - White Blue-eyed Debil at June 28, 2020 12:18 PM (Fs5vw)

544 50 How did that library survive WWII?
Posted by: common sense at June 28, 2020 09:14 AM (UCCfH)

It is surprising what survives war.

In the town where I lived in Germany, two arch bridges and a water tower survived perfectly well. The Army kaserne whose last vestiges are closing was in fact captured intact from the Wehrmacht, and all the buildings therein were repurposed for the United States Army. When I last visited there, I found a WWI monument just outside town on a long hike.

Keep in mind the town where I lived was subject to repeated bombings. We kids had a German teacher who was old enough to remember and told us all about it. AND if I am correct, the Third Army went through town. The place was severely damaged in the war, yet two arch bridges and a water tower, among other things as you can see, survuved.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 28, 2020 12:22 PM (ejsiI)

545 Thanks for sharing Calvin and Hobbes. I love that work. When it ended, I was done with comic strips altogether.

Posted by: FloridaMan at June 28, 2020 12:23 PM (vU2Np)

546 541 my high school class had like 500 students ... looking at the yearbook many years ago, I was surprised how few I knew, or remembered at least. My "advanced math" was the same 30 or so kids each year, but I wondered if the other classes were also maybe separated without kids knowing it, maybe separating college bound or something. Or maybe there was a lot of "self segregation" ... or maybe I was just not paying attention, or didn't care ... idk.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 28, 2020 12:16 PM (Cus5s)

My HS class? Screw 'em. They had no time or use for me, so why bother with them even ten seconds after the fact? If possible, I want no mention of the HS I went to or the year I "graduated" mentioned, as they simply do not deserve the credit.

And I do remember a great many of them.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 28, 2020 12:26 PM (ejsiI)

547 Kansas State football players are refusing to play until one (1) Kansas State student who posted a different opinion about Saint Floyd using his own individual social media account is dismissed from the school.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Masks work! Also, black people? You are not required to wear them. at June 28, 2020 11:03 AM (3w4SV)

State Uni - sounds like that would be a civil rights violation, right?

Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 28, 2020 12:27 PM (WwTwF)

548 Cut a hole where the mouth is. Then paint around the hole to make look like a vay jay. You'll be praised for your wokeness.
Posted by: Sooner
----
An ash+le would be more appropriate...

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at June 28, 2020 12:30 PM (UUBmN)

549
HOAs are canker sores on American civilization.

You should inform your HOA that your residence is now an autonomous zone and set up some concrete barriers.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 11:08 AM (k4bRG

HOAs are nothing more, nothing less, than the American version of Cuba's Committees for the Defense of the Revolution. When it comes time to buy a house, I REFUSE to buy one that is associated with an HOA. They are un-American and evil.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 28, 2020 12:30 PM (ejsiI)

550 I think there is a German word for "not getting the joke."
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2020 11:47 AM (ZfRYq)


There isn't.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at June 28, 2020 12:35 PM (A574z)

551 There isn't.

Posted by: HeatherRadish



Hey, there. How have you been? Haven't seen you around these parts in a long time.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 28, 2020 12:42 PM (BM2fS)

552 Hi JT- you mentioned Big Trouble last night and I realized that I have it in my collection. Based on your recommendation, I am going to read it as soon as I finish my civil war reading stack. I also find that I need an "intensity break" after reading detailed non-fiction.
Posted by: Moonbeam

Cool !

please tell me what ya think !

Posted by: JT at June 28, 2020 12:42 PM (arJlL)

553 119
Libraries still locked. Found a used book shop reopened!

Tiny paths tween dusty floor to ceiling haphazazd shelves. Been open
since 1960? But, of course, closing this year. Curses. May take a year
to disperse. Got "Red Harvest" (Dashiel Hammett) going with coffee.
Ahhhh.

Posted by: getting the banned back together at June 28, 2020 09:41 AM (dn8VX)
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-We get a fair number of people stopping at our book store who are fleeing east for the day from the central part of our state which is (as a customer told me yesterday) being run like the Third Reich.

Our governor tells us that the hospital in one mid-sized town is being overwhelmed compared to March and April. What he doesn't tell us is that 3 months ago there were two hospitals in the town. One closed in May (the closure had been planned for some time, not unexpected) and that's why the other hospital has more customers.

Posted by: StillJohn at June 28, 2020 12:44 PM (OlqBI)

554 428 They don't want conservatives gathering where they can spend time talking to each other about unapproved, non-political, fun subjects.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 28, 2020 11:29 AM (Dc2NZ)
--------------------------------------------------
Forget the "conservatives" part. They don't want people in general bonding against the Narrative. Sports (and Christianity) transcend race, class, and politics.
This is anathema.

Everything in the state; nothing outside the State; nothing against the State. Everything must be political.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 28, 2020 12:46 PM (M/9m0)

555 I always had problems with the TIME Reading Program editions. Even when new, the covers were too stiff to flex at the hinge so you'd have this cracking of paperboard which soon made the cover break off.

And the glue holding the pages together (a format known as "perfect binding" in the trade) was too stiff to flex -- until it snapped. (When newly made it didn't snap but took a permanent kink at the flex page.)

The content was usually available in older hardcover or even paperbacks that opened easily and properly.

They were (and remain today) just terrible examples of poor book manufacturing.

TIME-Life should be ashamed of them.

Posted by: PubliusII at June 28, 2020 01:01 PM (NCsa7)

556 Hans if you're there, I tried emailing to ask if you had any more supporting material on fighting this sort of social takeover, but my email bounced. I've already read most of the recommended items in afterword of the Hidden Truth books.

Sorry you had trouble reaching me, .87c. In case you check back, you could try tweeting at me on Twitter. I'll check out Rules for Retrogrades.

Posted by: Hans at June 28, 2020 01:20 PM (O5s8/)

557 The Andy Griffith Show was a very successful spin-off of Danny Thomas's Make Room for Daddy.

But there are a lot more that are unsuccessful.

Take "Reuben," Seemed like a good idea to spin off The Partridge Family's befuddled manager, but it lasted exactly TWO episodes

But that's TWICE as long as the run of "Alice Sam", the series showcasing The Brad Bunch's maid and her meat-packing boyfriend Sam.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 28, 2020 01:27 PM (o1fzk)

558 Time and Life published some wonderful books back in the 60s and 70s. Their science and nature series were an education in themselves. And their "The World Of ..." books on art are still some of the best introductions to art that I've seen, anywhere. How the mighty have fallen! But thank God for alibris.com, and other used book outlets!

My wife, the lovely and accomplished Annalucia, and I have just finished our out-loud reading of "Out of the East" by Paul Freedman, which is a history of spices in the Middle Ages. It sounds like a dull topic, but it's anything but, given the heavy use of spices in the Middle Ages (and no, it was not to disguise the taste of decaying meat!) and the enormous profits that it yielded to Muslim middlemen drove the Portuguese and Spanish voyages of exploration, which changed the world. A fascinating story, very well told.

And if you're interested in food and history (and who on this thread isn't!), I recommend a Great Courses course that Annalucia and I just finished: Cooking Through the Ages, which is available via The Great Courses. The teacher, Ken Abala, in 24 lectures visits the cuisines of past times and places - everywhere from ancient Rome, to ancient China, to colonial Quebec, to the canopener cuisine of 1950s America, talks about food and cook books and the popular culture of the time and place, then demonstrates some recipes from that era. I found it absolutely fascinating. Also, Abala is one of the sources cited in Freedman's book.

Anyway, best wishes and here's hoping that you have a lovely Sunday!

Posted by: Brown Line at June 28, 2020 01:51 PM (S6ArX)

559 But there are a lot more that are unsuccessful.

Yeah. The ratio of failed spinoffs to success is pretty lopsided. I mean, most TV shows fail, but that's a separate issue.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 01:53 PM (KZzsI)

560 It's hardly surprising that a show about Alice and any meat-packing man would be a failure.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 02:09 PM (wL2ZV)

561 I think Kondo would allow you to keep however many books if they "spark joy" for you.
I do think many books are kept that are never read. So it is probably a check of "do you really think you are going to read or re-read this ever?"
The Eccentric Lives book has a chapter on bibliomaniacs. True book hoarders with no limiters built in.

Posted by: goodluckduck at June 28, 2020 02:33 PM (V8zw+)

562 Thanks for the local library reminder. San Antonio Public Library has Mash: A Novel About Three Army Doctors. w00t!

Posted by: Ranten N. Raven at June 28, 2020 06:13 PM (8YAVU)

563 420 Its kind of a law in TV, spinoffs almost never, ever
work. There are very rare exceptions like The Jeffersons but its a
pretty hard and fast rule.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 11:18 AM (KZzsI)

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Just off the top of my head:

Laverne and Shirley (Happy Days, which was American Graffitti on the small screen)
Facts of Life (Diff'rent Strokes)
Petticoat Junction (Green Acres)
Frasier (Cheers)

I'm sure there are more.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 28, 2020 11:24 AM (cfSRQ)


NCIS from JAG

Posted by: red at June 28, 2020 07:30 PM (zakMt)

564 I only buy books I will read and want to keep. I get others from the library, and once in a while find one I'll love and re-read.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 28, 2020 07:53 PM (KZzsI)

565 518 One use for old yearbooks: to remind you which classmates you thought were hot.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 28, 2020 12:01 PM (wL2ZV)


Also to remind yourself what was considered hot when you were in high school.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 28, 2020 08:57 PM (k4bRG)

566 This is so great because by believing, racism is the worse thing ever, you are all just basic-bitch lefties. You adopted the beliefs of your enemy which of course is why you always lose.

Posted by: mGrant at June 29, 2020 03:23 PM (r5iyh)

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