Animals: In Lansing, Terrorists Now Closing Off Roads and <i>Threatening Motorists With Rifles</i> if They Don't Comply With the Bandits' Orders

Animals: In Lansing, Terrorists Now Closing Off Roads and Threatening Motorists With Rifles if They Don't Comply With the Bandits' Orders

In wartorn countries in which all civil order has vanished, armed groups begin seizing roadways and bridges and denying entry to those who don't pay a "toll."

This is happening in America. In Lansing, Michigan.

Now. Today.

The police are present here -- but they just sit on their thumbs as armed terrorist paramilitaries threaten lawabiding citizens with a rifle.

What happens when the next motorist stopped by the bandits has a gun, and decides that he, too, would like to brandish it?

Letting the terrorists control the streets is not deescalating violence -- it is setting the state for a true conflagration of small action skirmishes that lead to civil war.

And where the fuck is Trump? Or Barr? There should be flying squads deployed throughout the US to start locking these fuckers up and making serious examples of them.

Note: A "flying squad" is a law enforcement unit, not a military one. They are teams who are assigned a specific type of crime and prosecute them without regard to jurisdiction - that's what makes them "flying."

With investigation and photo analysis, the US government could have the rifle guy ID'd in 48 hours.

If it wanted to.

And yes, this guy is violating a US citizen's civil rights -- these bandits are violating every motorists' right to travel freely. So there is a US charge that applies here.

...

Trump will not win reelection if his legacy is a country that looks like Mogadishu.

Skip to 1:00 to see the motorcyclist stopped by a man holding and aiming a rifle right at his heart.

Tell me more about the scary threat posed by the Boogaloo Brigades, Media.

Meanwhile...

JUST IN: Philadelphia Mayor Orders Christopher Columbus Statue Removed Due To "Public Safety" - https://t.co/uAxzfp7BFn pic.twitter.com/Q3NMp87xxr
— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 24, 2020

Posted by: Ace at 05:49 PM

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1 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2020 05:50 PM (arJlL)

2 Local story.

Posted by: Javems at June 24, 2020 05:50 PM (ofIwF)

3 Where is this?

Road Warrior rules of the road?
"Our voice matters!"

Posted by: Lizzy at June 24, 2020 05:51 PM (bDqIh)

4 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 05:52 PM (Zz0t1)

5 Come on you guys. No fair commenting an hour ahead of the post.

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at June 24, 2020 05:52 PM (AHq56)

6 Where are the terrorists with rifles threatening motorists? Philadelphia too, or Seattle?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 24, 2020 05:52 PM (+eVzC)

7 This happens in NJ, I start carrying

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 05:52 PM (85Gof)

8 When you fuck with people, every once in a while you run across some crazy SOB you shoulda never fucked with.

Posted by: Gran Torino at June 24, 2020 05:52 PM (cCxiu)

9 Philadelphia Mississippi?

Posted by: Brett Favre at June 24, 2020 05:53 PM (Jj+59)

10 Okay, retreat out of range of his weapon, deploy yours.

Easy peasy.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 24, 2020 05:53 PM (WEBkv)

11 >And where the fuck is Trump? Or Barr? There should be flying squads deployed throughout the US to start locking these fuckers up and making serious examples of them.

Oh ye of little faith. You don't want to be called a pants shitter, now do you?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 05:53 PM (L106N)

12 50cal

no warning shots allowed

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 24, 2020 05:53 PM (FZYNt)

13 Constitutional carry. Tired of this shit.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 24, 2020 05:53 PM (Dc2NZ)

14 Is that where the colored girls go doop doop doop de doop doop doop doop de doop doop de doop doop de doop?

Posted by: Brett Favre at June 24, 2020 05:54 PM (Jj+59)

15 blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

Never bring a 22LR training rifle to a 30-06 deer hunt.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 24, 2020 05:54 PM (u82oZ)

16 Jim Kenney, mayor of Philadelphia is a extreme leftist. He'd remove every statue in Philadelphia if he thought it benefitted the cause.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 24, 2020 05:54 PM (+eVzC)

17 Agree DJT needs to help America now. Stop calculating the political angles and help us. Messy now or later. Mr. President this will not go away. Fight with power. If Miley the metal man shits on you fire his weak ass. Agree with Ace.

Posted by: azalea city at June 24, 2020 05:54 PM (WX+x0)

18 Trump has offered help. The Democrat governors and mayors have refused. Elections have consequences. We are at the beginning of Let It Burn.

Posted by: jmel at June 24, 2020 05:55 PM (bVhJi)

19 Well, anyway, I'm sure that it is the fault of some white people, somehow. . .

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at June 24, 2020 05:55 PM (xptlg)

20 Constitutional carry. Tired of this shit.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta

You're beautiful when you're tired......

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2020 05:55 PM (arJlL)

21 I would have liked to have seen Montana.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy in Hunt of Red Octobrr at June 24, 2020 05:55 PM (ufJfM)

22 We are the unemployed people of Lansing

Posted by: wth at June 24, 2020 05:55 PM (v0R5T)

23 People are not going to for FOR this when they know it happens when Democrats are in charge. I have no idea what Trump should do but this doesn't help Biden in the slightest.

Posted by: Max Power at June 24, 2020 05:55 PM (QCc6B)

24 What makes the incident in Lansing Mi even better is the police saw the whole thing and did nothing.

Posted by: Mike at June 24, 2020 05:55 PM (IyBKv)

25 Holy crap.

And the law abiding citizen who drops him would be buried under the jail.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Our policies are failures causing misery to millions, so you must be punished at June 24, 2020 05:55 PM (NG6Iv)

26 I have decided to start carrying regularly. Have the permit, live in a small town where these things could not possibly happen ... BUT, time to play it safe.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 24, 2020 05:56 PM (/uaBM)

27 Who wants to live in Philadelphia anyway?

Posted by: dantesed at June 24, 2020 05:56 PM (88xKn)

28 The DoJ has arrested 100 people!

Posted by: MAGA at June 24, 2020 05:56 PM (f9lwT)

29 FenelonSpoke

Just wanted to say hi!

Time to head out for my Wednesday night meeting with the local pragmatists.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 24, 2020 05:56 PM (u82oZ)

30 You gonna pull them pistols or start whistling Dixie?

Posted by: Josey Wales at June 24, 2020 05:56 PM (q1Pj5)

31 Why do you not say where this is? Do you not know? Where did you find this?

Posted by: WTP at June 24, 2020 05:56 PM (HA2LH)

32 Them FBI dudes got right on that garage door handle, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Our policies are failures causing misery to millions, so you must be punished at June 24, 2020 05:56 PM (NG6Iv)

33
Tucker Carlson giving voice to what we are facing; exactly what is going on in America today:

https://tinyurl.com/yc93e47f

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yc93e47f

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 05:56 PM (W54U5)

34 >And where the fuck is Trump? Or Barr? There should be flying squads deployed throughout the US to start locking these fuckers up and making serious examples of them.�

Oh ye of little faith. You don't want to be called a pants shitter, now do you?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 05:53 PM (L106N)

Heh

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at June 24, 2020 05:56 PM (PUrOB)

35 I would have liked to have seen Montana.

Posted by: Brian Dennehy in Hunt of Red Octobrr at June 24, 2020 05:55 PM (ufJfM)

Dennehy played the sub, not the Captain!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at June 24, 2020 05:56 PM (ZSK0i)

36 >>>And the law abiding citizen who drops him would be buried under the jail.

When the cops come to arrest an innocent man, do his neighbors now get out their rifles to warn them off?

If the police have ceded control of the streets to the vigilantes, then the police are just allies of the vigilantes.

Posted by: ace at June 24, 2020 05:57 PM (PbpT7)

37 Yeah, this ain't Trump's fault. It's the local government. He would need to declare Martial Law before he could tell the military to come in and fix this shit.

You don't want that.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 05:57 PM (Zz0t1)

38 Here in NJ we can not carry, but I will if this shit starts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 05:57 PM (85Gof)

39 35 Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy

Good catch. A secret drive at 3 kts.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 24, 2020 05:57 PM (u82oZ)

40 >And where the fuck is Trump? Or Barr? There should be flying squads deployed throughout the US to start locking these fuckers up and making serious examples of them.

Now for the serious comment. Sadly, I think this shows that Trump has nearly lost control of the military. Either that or he's just doesn't care. That doesn't seem likely.

How bad is it if he makes a public spectacle of trying to deploy Guard or regular Army and they refuse? The old thing about not giving an order you know won't be followed. That would be a huge blow to his command authority and public perception. Not that this alternative is much better.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 05:57 PM (L106N)

41 THIS IS LANSING?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 24, 2020 05:57 PM (Dc2NZ)

42 When the cops come to arrest an innocent man, do his neighbors now get out their rifles to warn them off?

If the police have ceded control of the streets to the vigilantes, then the police are just allies of the vigilantes.

Posted by: ace at June 24, 2020 05:57 PM (PbpT7)

-------

It's a paycheck.

Posted by: MAGA at June 24, 2020 05:57 PM (f9lwT)

43 Is the guy in the beginning of the video twirling a baton or a rifle? Not that it matters, it's going to be a long, hot Summer.

The one idiot who says "He threatening us with running us over" about the motorcyclist is just too precious.

Posted by: Cheri at June 24, 2020 05:57 PM (oiNtH)

44 >>>31 Why do you not say where this is? Do you not know? Where did you find this?

it says it's from Lansing. You could click on it and read.

Or you can just keep pestering me about it, Champ.

Posted by: ace at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (PbpT7)

45 *sigh* I just moved to a smaller wallet-type purse. It doesn't have room for the Sig. I'm either going to have to go back to the satchel or get a teeny tiny gun.

Posted by: creeper at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (XxJt1)

46 Buy rifles. Buy ammo. Be prepared to fight for your life. If the Democrats win, this is EVERY city in America.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (I99aF)

47 So the Wild West is returning?

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (6f16T)

48 That kind of shit would get a person shot in AZ.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (k4dH2)

49 37 Yeah, this ain't Trump's fault. It's the local government. He would need to declare Martial Law before he could tell the military to come in and fix this shit.

You don't want that.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe!

That's what they are banking on, been predicting since he announced his candidacy. Concentration camps would follow

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (FZYNt)

50 Trump should absolutely stay back and let this dumpster fire burn. He is giving them the rope to hang themselves (heh, noose reference) and Sun Tsu says to never interfere with the enemy when he is making a mistake. These idiots are making one huge mistake after another and Trump is doing right not to interfere.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (/uaBM)

51 Felony Menacing in that first clip.

Posted by: Joe Mama at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (2GENc)

52 Ace, where is this?

Posted by: bluebell at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (/669Q)

53 Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 05:57 PM (L106N)

Eat me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (85Gof)

54 I thought I heard them chant "We are the free people of Lansing" assuming MI.

Posted by: Cheri at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (oiNtH)

55 Ah, Lansing. Top-to-bottom Democrats? Yes, first requirement of civil disorder.

Posted by: t-bird at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (DMQdU)

56 37:He'll get the blame. The press will see to it

Posted by: CN at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (j5am2)

57 I'm guessing it would be perfectly legal for another rifle user to take him down from a distance since he's pointing the weapon at people, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Our policies are failures causing misery to millions, so you must be punished at June 24, 2020 05:58 PM (NG6Iv)

58 And the law abiding citizen who drops him would be buried under the jail.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Our policies are failures causing misery to millions, so you must be punished at June 24, 2020 05:55 PM (NG6Iv)
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Anyone else here that would have been cool with turning your back on those people blocking the road?

In a car, you've got a chance to back out of danger while keeping an eye on things. On a bike, all you can do is present your back as a target as you get the heck out of Dodge.

That is really scary stuff.

If at all possible, when out and about, bring a friend with a gun.

It doesn't matter if you're just running to the corner grocery store, bring a friend.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 24, 2020 05:59 PM (WEBkv)

59 Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 24, 2020 05:56 PM (u82oZ)

Hello to you, Salty, and have a good meeting!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 24, 2020 05:59 PM (+eVzC)

60 {{{..creeper..}}}

A derringer. Those are deadly.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 24, 2020 05:59 PM (u82oZ)

61 These weak saucelings just haven't run up against an F350 with a gun rack yet.

Posted by: wth at June 24, 2020 05:59 PM (v0R5T)

62 Oops, sorry, I see you said it's from Lansing. I don't see anything to click on though. I'll keep looking.

Posted by: bluebell at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (/669Q)

63 Wait is this Lansing?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (cfSRQ)

64 Soon, Player 3 will enter the game.

He will be at 200 yards.

He won't speak.

But he will be heard.

That's the lesson being taught.

Posted by: RoyalOil at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (aO8Gd)

65 If the military really has decided that Trump is not their commander, it's better if we know where we stand sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (I99aF)

66 Context Ace? Where is the video taking place? When? Who?

Posted by: Xipe Totec-Death to AntiFa! at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (o2MD2)

67 Parade permit? Permission to block a street? Brandishing a firearm? Assault with a deadly weapon?
Photographer know anything about firearm safety? Would that be another assault victim? Open carry state? Lansing? Michigan? Inciting a riot? Enroute to a riot?

Posted by: 80's music fan at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (glGDV)

68 I'd be uncomfortable with Trump using the military. What I would do, if I were him, is arrest and prosecute the mayors who let it happen. I would also withhold funding to rebuild these shitholes.

America needs to decide if this is what they want - on a larger scale, coast to coast.

Posted by: Mike at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (WWn8/)

69 One of the things that the actual historical Nazi's did was establish
Jews as their scapegoat, upon which they placed all of the blame for any
problems in Germany.

White people, and in particular, white men, are
the Demonazi's new Jews; the scapegoat upon which to place the blame for
every American problem.

I for one am going to start wearing a yellow Star of David armband, as well as a yellow Star of David mask, to properly show my new status.

Posted by: An Observation at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (tWK2i)

70 HOly shit, my blood just boiled, that is fucking nuts

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (M+Lyo)

71 And figured it was a matter of time Columbus in Philadelphia was gone. Yeah the formalities had to look like a cooperation but it was a forgone conclusion.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (6f16T)

72 No matter how I game this out I'm fucked. I live in a no-carry state. (Yeah, I know. Fuck me).

If the police melt and I opt for self-defense I'm sure there will be one cop left to arrest me for carrying.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (gd9RK)

73 Trump will not win reelection if his legacy is a country that looks like Mogadishu.
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Elections won't matter at that point, only who can build the biggest throne of skulls.

Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2020 06:01 PM (kOpft)

74

Fucking LANSING???!?!?

Fat boy rick there is lucky there wasn't a few more two-wheelers. Leveling a rifle at the man's chest is felony assault. What the actual fuck is going on?

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 06:01 PM (SFOr6)

75 If you actively intervene in Democrat controlled areas the politicians there will assist the rioters and anarchists both strategically and politically to increase violence and chaos and they will be assisted and aided by a sympathetic media. This is a trap ace, and innocent people are caught up in this tragedy.

Posted by: Max Power at June 24, 2020 06:01 PM (QCc6B)

76 RustyNail, if the Democrats lose this is also every city in America. You know they never quit.

Posted by: creeper at June 24, 2020 06:01 PM (XxJt1)

77 They want blood on the street and don't care whose blood it is. There is only one answer.

Posted by: Eromero at June 24, 2020 06:01 PM (XhWtx)

78 >Eat me

Uh, excuse me? What did I do to rile you up?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (L106N)

79 In a car, you've got a chance to back out of danger while keeping an eye on things. On a bike, all you can do is present your back as a target as you get the heck out of Dodge.

-

But even in a car if that guy is aiming at you you've got no response time. The only reason you're not shot is because he hasn't shot you yet.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Our policies are failures causing misery to millions, so you must be punished at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (NG6Iv)

80 "And where the fuck is Trump?"

Failing, that's where. Gross dereliction of duty in my book. I'm tired of being told we can't fight the Left because "it would give them just what they want." How about what WE want -- like not passively witnessing our country being despoliated? I'm also sick of happy talk bullshit about the Wall or the economy or the fucking stock market.

We're losing the country, super IQ guy.

Posted by: Insignificant White Guy at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (H8QX8)

81 I assume the media is calling the rifle brandishing guy a white nationalist.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (aK3kV)

82 Clowns.

They keep it up and soon to be dead clowns.

You got your
Dead clowns in the middle of the road
Dead clowns in the middle of the road
Dead clowns in the middle of the road
Stinkin' to high heaven.......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (Z+IKu)

83 I'd happily turn around and come back with my hk91. Level a gun at me and you'd better drop the hammer.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (F6tBH)

84 If the military really has decided that Trump is not their commander, it's better if we know where we stand sooner rather than later.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 24, 2020 06:00 PM (I99aF)

relax relax

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (85Gof)

85 Just so I understand...people who want the police abolished because they feel they are treated like threats to safety, treat a motorcyclist as a threat to safety based on nothing more than the fact that he revved his engine...ok then.

Posted by: Defund NeverTrump at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (0jZvB)

86 This year, for the first time in my life, I have thought about moving out of state, if she dies before me and I get enough money. She is bed-ridden. I understand people saying Trump needs to stay out of this, but this cannot continue, and it will, especially if he is re-elected.

Posted by: Baldy at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (OLCH5)

87 An old ex-Marine advised me yesterday to get myself a .308. Says it can take down targets at over a thousand yards. Nice safe distance to be from the enemy.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (/uaBM)

88 Geez. Hogmartin lives near there. Hope he's all right.

Posted by: bluebell at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (/669Q)

89 who's the nasty whigger doing the narrating denying rights to the free citizen on the bike?

Posted by: Johnny Biface at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (RvTz9)

90 WTF - Lansing.

"Free people of Lansing".

Keep it up friends, you'll be the "Dead people of Lansing".

Of course THEN the Lansing police would actually DO something if you took exception to having guns pointed at you by hooligans on the street.

Does Michigan have no Brandishing laws?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:03 PM (TYUJ+)

91 Posted by: Insignificant White Guy at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (H8QX

By G-D your right. hey let's vote for biden

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:03 PM (85Gof)

92 Is it because I suggested that the generals might not follow orders that Trump gives them? That's not a slam against the rest of the military.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:03 PM (L106N)

93 Ace: "There should be flying squads deployed throughout the US to start locking these fuckers up and making serious examples of them."

Apparently, one needs to tie a noose to one's rear view mirror to make sure a Federal presence shows up.

The number of prisons we actually need should be doubled now. And not just to house the rioters. We need to include the riot enablers, too, for their contribution to the national insurrections. I'm looking at mayors, governors, Senators, Congressmen, and Enemedia most directly.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 24, 2020 06:03 PM (HhXSr)

94 Lansing sounds nice.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2020 06:03 PM (Tr/Ej)

95 Calling them vigilantes is an insult to vigilantes. They are bandits, brigands, hostis humani generis.

Vigilantes arise when the officials don't maintain law and order.

Posted by: butch at June 24, 2020 06:03 PM (hXu8T)

96 Uh, excuse me? What did I do to rile you up?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (L106N)

It might be the fact that you said your answer was "serious" and very directly implied his was not...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at June 24, 2020 06:03 PM (ZSK0i)

97 And where the fuck is Trump? Or Barr? There should be flying squads deployed throughout the US to start locking these fuckers up and making serious examples of them.

Trump is busy tweeting shit.

Barr is scratching his nuts while he jams another cupcake into his mouth.

I understand letting leftist states drown in their own shit, but at the risk of being slammed as a troll, Trump is going to lose the optics war if he doesn't come down hard on these people.

"Oh, wait until Trump uses these for campaign commercials"

You don't think Gropey Joe can? His campaign could use the clip above, blame it on Trump's climate of hate and promise a return to safety if Biden is elected.

And the MFM wouldn't call him out on it.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 24, 2020 06:03 PM (2JVJo)

98 So now open carry of a loaded weapon and pointing it at
someone is a non-issue? (if you're black) This will not end well. going to be a long hot summer

Posted by: Flamethrower at June 24, 2020 06:03 PM (CaD1V)

99 But even in a car if that guy is aiming at you you've got no response time. The only reason you're not shot is because he hasn't shot you yet.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Our policies are failures causing misery to millions, so you must be punished at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (NG6Iv)
---------------

A car offers a certain amount of protection.

A bike only has speed and the skill of the rider.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 24, 2020 06:04 PM (WEBkv)

100 Posted by: creeper at June 24, 2020 06:01 PM

The difference is that they will have national support to continue the anarchy. A Trump win will be a mandate to crush it.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 24, 2020 06:04 PM (I99aF)

101 How is what is happening in Michigan or Oregon or Washington state Trump's fault?

Posse comitatus was enacted for a reason.

That is what my brain says.

My heart I DO TOO HAVE ONE OF MY OWN THAT IS NOT IN A JAR says ace is right.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2020 06:04 PM (GbPPJ)

102 "Trump will not win reelection if his legacy is a country that looks like Mogadishu."

________________

I agree, I think too many on the Right hope he just lets all of this fester and people will blame the Left.

I will concede it's not exactly easy to roll into US cities with the military when the Governor/Mayor/Police all say "stay out!!!"

Posted by: Blago at June 24, 2020 06:04 PM (gkdnV)

103 I have to believe people will hold their local officials accountable, not Trump. I mean, what can he do apart from declaring martial law? Isn't that kinda banana republic-like? What if soldiers are deployed and civilians killed? It would be wall to wall coverage. He has to let this take its course.

Posted by: Cory at June 24, 2020 06:04 PM (KO+il)

104 Lansing Michigan, home of MSU and newly woke Tom Izzo.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 24, 2020 06:04 PM (m/Gc2)

105 There ARE brandishing laws in Michigan.

And these fluckfaces broke them.

https://www.lawserver.com/law/state/michigan/mi-laws/michigan_laws_750-234e

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:04 PM (TYUJ+)

106 The police are present here -- but they just sit on their thumbs as armed vigilantes threaten lawabiding citizens with a rifle.

Which, as I have said before, is why I want Trump to declare martial law now.

We know LEOs are on the other side. We know they won't do shit to threaten their sweet fat pensions. It's time to find out now if the military won't obey their C-in-C.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 24, 2020 06:04 PM (2JVJo)

107

Laws and civil society do not exist to protect whites from minorities. They exist to protect minorities from 1,500+ years of European war-evolution.

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 06:05 PM (SFOr6)

108 97: Yes

Posted by: CN at June 24, 2020 06:05 PM (j5am2)

109 >It might be the fact that you said your answer was "serious" and very directly implied his was not...

The fuck? I was talking about as opposed to my previous snarky comment. I wasn't replying to NGU at all.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:05 PM (L106N)

110 I'm guessing it would be perfectly legal for another rifle user to take him down from a distance since he's pointing the weapon at people, right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie

* checks 300,000 pages of notes *

No.

Posted by: BATF / FBI / State & Local PD at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (L6ZYH)

111 There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But I have an honorable compromise. Just walk away. Give me your pump, the oil, the gasoline, and the whole compound, and I'll spare your lives. Just walk away and we'll give you a safe passageway in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror.

Posted by: Antifa la la la la la, la la la at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (+y/Ru)

112 So given today's confirmation that Obama was the coup kingpin we already knew he was, this means a massive disaster or tragedy of some kind will happen within the next week, to suck all the air out of the room on this. You know it. I know it.

Posted by: Citizen at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (ldmQR)

113 FWIW, I have read that this is a Color Revolution sponsored by Soros. When the government clamps down on the insurgents, the populace turns against the government.

These people want Trump to use the iron fist of the law/ military. That's what most people do. By not doing that, Trump is keeping the populace on his side. As strange as that seems.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (ZCiJZ)

114 A car offers a certain amount of protection.

A bike only has speed and the skill of the rider.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

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Yeah, sorry if it seemed like I was disagreeing more than I was. I mostly just meant that if you find yourself in that situation... Well, I don't really know. It's scary to ponder that it's happening in the US.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Our policies are failures causing misery to millions, so you must be punished at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (NG6Iv)

115 In Florida, a defendant may be convicted of improper exhibition for merely carelessly, angrily or rudely displaying a weapon. It is not necessary that the defendant make a threatening gesture with the weapon in order to be convicted.

First Degree Misdemeanor, up to 1 year, $1000 Fine.

Posted by: FloridaMan at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (mXUUL)

116 Trump's shitty poll numbers are not fake news. He is looking weak, and that is as off-brand as you can get for Trump. If he doesn't take charge of this country, he loses.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (I99aF)

117 Trust Trump. The marxists WANT him to declare martial law. He will if he must, but the people have to understand why it is necessary.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (dNzKv)

118 Damn weasel is right
should buy ammo

Posted by: vmom 2020 at June 24, 2020 06:07 PM (WwTwF)

119 Jim Kinney is term-limited (as is PA governor Tom Wolf). Kinney can do what he wants.

Posted by: Wethal at June 24, 2020 06:07 PM (ZzVCK)

120
There ARE brandishing laws in Michigan.

And these fluckfaces broke them.

Laws don't exist if no one will enforce them.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at June 24, 2020 06:07 PM (ZCiJZ)

121 Prominent Dems have started to say (basically) that the only way Trump can win next Nov is by stealing the election.
The People's Armies' Shocktroops and cannon fodder are already called up.
and I see Talcum X is organizing to defund police dep'ts all over the country(bless his little egotistical heart.)

Could very well be worse than 1968. Wish I were down south with a gun or two.

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at June 24, 2020 06:08 PM (4a9Vv)

122 Meanwhile I just got the rules for using the pool at my apartment complex from the local apartment management politburo. Absurd and insane.
So at the same time you have absurd over-regulation in some places and insane lawlessness in others.

It's like Disney decided to build a real-life "What was it like to live in a soviet country" section at epcot.

Posted by: Iftwilp at June 24, 2020 06:08 PM (gqvXZ)

123 The fact that the police were sitting down there allowing this to happen means they're on board with it.

DISBAND the police if that's all they're going to do.

Back up the fucking paddy wagons or go the fuck home without pay.

DO. YOUR. JOB.

I do NOT feel sorry for you, officer, when you BRING THIS SHIT ON YOURSELF.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 06:08 PM (Zz0t1)

124 I can't decide if the biker is brave or stupid.

Appears that he's arguing with the people who are armed, one of whom has a weapon pointed at him.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 24, 2020 06:08 PM (WEBkv)

125 How about the Governor of Michigan fixing this? It's her responsibility and this is happening in her front yard.

Posted by: bluebell at June 24, 2020 06:08 PM (/669Q)

126 118 Damn weasel is right
should buy ammo
Posted by: vmom 2020 at June 24, 2020 06:07 PM (WwTwF)
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Yep. The time to start thinking about self defense is NOT when you roll up on an intersection full of maniacs.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2020 06:08 PM (Tr/Ej)

127 Radical elements have been trying to incite a race war for over 50 years. Manson. Helter Skelter.

Posted by: corn and beans at June 24, 2020 06:09 PM (tkNkP)

128 Florida, a defendant may be convicted of improper exhibition for merely carelessly, angrily or rudely displaying a weapon. It is not necessary that the defendant make a threatening gesture with the weapon in order to be convicted.

First Degree Misdemeanor, up to 1 year, $1000 Fine.

Posted by: FloridaMan at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (mXUUL)

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Now do "pointing rifle at stranger's center mass on a public street."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Our policies are failures causing misery to millions, so you must be punished at June 24, 2020 06:09 PM (NG6Iv)

129 it's not decided yet, the statue

it's up to the Philadelphia Art Commission

they're also allowing the public to comment and send in petitions etc up until a certain date

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfPrivilege at June 24, 2020 06:09 PM (j9HX3)

130 ....and Biden is a 'take charge' kind of guy.....laughable!

Posted by: Myshiba at June 24, 2020 06:09 PM (LOSg4)

131 "Trust Trump"

The "president" who's done nothing about this so far, beyond tweeting "LAW AND ORDER"? The "president" who's let the Proud Boys rot in prison? The "president" who - to this day - has let a horrible virus rampage through this country, on a level only met by Brazil?

That "president"?

Screw that "president". We have no president, currently. We may as well have Biden. One senile old woman-molester or another.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 24, 2020 06:09 PM (ykYG2)

132 Obama said they had to have the right people on it. Clearly strozk wasn't the right person, he was crazy. A low level fbi staffer made an oopsie by assigning him. Obama did no wrong. His intentions were good.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (dNzKv)

133 As has been said before, if the police and elected officials won't do anything about this, then there is nothing for Trump to do. These little things pop up everywhere, the national guard can't be everywhere.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (r+sAi)

134 Curious as to when this happened. That's a main thoroughfare, not a side street.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (cfSRQ)

135 Isnt Lansing just a mini Detroit? Fuck em. Let it burn.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (2IW2q)

136 There are a lot of things to worry about. Right now the Military is not one of them.

Obama and the politburo politicized every department from the IRS to the Military. So yeah there are problems. But right now, following Orders are not particularly one of them. And it is not secret that a all to big percentage of the Military leans left. Always have. That is nothing new. The degree in which it has influenced procedures and policy ( transexuals and crap like that ) has. But these things can will be dealt with IF we can retain the White House. If not, we got bigger problems anyway

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (85Gof)

137 He would need to declare Martial Law before he could tell the military to come in and fix this shit.

No, he wouldn't. Under the insurrection act, he can send the militia to arrest the governors of these states. Activate the militia, appoint former military at their former ranks to be the officers and noncoms of the militia, and appoint a military governor of that territory.
Read 10 USC 333.

Posted by: An Observation at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (tWK2i)

138 The "president" who - to this day - has let a horrible virus rampage through this country, on a level only met by Brazil?

OK Karen.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (n4scg)

139 >>How about the Governor of Michigan fixing this? It's her responsibility and this is happening in her front yard.

So you're saying that there is a reason we conservatives have always said we believe in federalism and local and then state government should take care of their own states?

How revolutionary.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (ZLI7S)

140 Seems to me a few folks with 30.06 from reinforced elevated positions could clear that road right quick.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (Pi8qR)

141 thought I heard them chant "We are the free people of Lansing" assuming MI.

That might have been what they were trying to say, but it came out, "MOAR TRUMP!"

Posted by: t-bird at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (pbStR)

142
g'afternoon, 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (5wTO9)

143 We can send troops to fight and die every third world shithole around the globe -- how about sending them into our domestic 3rd world shitholes?

Oh right, they'll call Trump mean names ... kind if like every other day that ends in Y.

Posted by: ShainS at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (9GQbw)

144 The "president" who's done nothing about this so far, beyond tweeting "LAW AND ORDER"? The "president" who's let the Proud Boys rot in prison? The "president" who - to this day - has let a horrible virus rampage through this country, on a level only met by Brazil?

That "president"?

Screw that "president". We have no president, currently. We may as well have Biden. One senile old woman-molester or another.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 24, 2020 06:09 PM (ykYG2)

The only option he has is martial law. Period.

He cannot just send troops into a state without that state requesting said troops.

What, exactly, would you like him to do?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (Zz0t1)

145 remember the hulabaloo when Trump claimed he could order governors to open or close re: the Woohoo Flu? How dare he!

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (4a9Vv)

146 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 24, 2020 06:03 PM (2JVJo)

With all due respect, we have no way of knowing exactly what Trump is doing regarding this. It's probably not a good idea for him to broadcast his every move. You will, however, find some information on Conservative TreeHouse on his discussions and roundtables with various folks.

And I ask this-as I ask it of myself-might it be beneficial to take a break from the board?.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (+eVzC)

147 The "president" who - to this day - has let a horrible virus rampage through this country, on a level only met by Brazil?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 24, 2020 06:09 PM (ykYG2)

Sorry, but you are a fucking retard. It isn't a horrible virus, and your adolescent hysterics won't convince any sentient being of your insanity. The actual data prove you completely, laughably, embarrassingly wrong.

Calm the fuck down.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (dLLD6)

148 creeper: "I'm either going to have to go back to the satchel or get a teeny tiny gun."

As long as "teeny tiny" removes the threat, then OK. Otherwise, get the satchel.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (HhXSr)

149 Hopefully local LE can look at the video and ID some suspects

Posted by: DB- just DB. at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (iTXRQ)

150 Is this Lansing?

Posted by: Amy Schumer at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (FZYNt)

151 General Flynn on Levin's show, thanking Old Yeller and his audience for helping him out. Nice.

I can't wait to hear the whole story from Flynn.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (4rS50)

152 The "president" who - to this day - has let a horrible virus rampage through this country, on a level only met by Brazil?

Sure thing, ChemJeff.

Damn, bth. When did your screws come loose?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (ZSK0i)

153 FWIW, I have read that this is a Color Revolution sponsored by Soros. When the government clamps down on the insurgents, the populace turns against the government.

These people want Trump to use the iron fist of the law/ military. That's what most people do. By not doing that, Trump is keeping the populace on his side. As strange as that seems.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World

***

Think Northern Ireland when the Brits first moved in. Good duty for the first 6 months or so.
PDT will time it right.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (axyOa)

154 >>There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But I have an honorable
compromise. Just walk away. Give me your pump, the oil, the gasoline,
and the whole compound, and I'll spare your lives. Just walk away and
we'll give you a safe passageway in the wastelands. Just walk away and
there will be an end to the horror.>>What a puny plan!

Posted by: Defund NeverTrump at June 24, 2020 06:12 PM (0jZvB)

155 It's disturbing and disheartening to see police refusing to enforce the law against these freaks. And Ace is absolutely right: This is an invitation to vigilante war. In fact, there will be no other alternative if this is allowed to continue.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 24, 2020 06:12 PM (sWM8x)

156 An old ex-Marine advised me yesterday to get myself a .308. Says it can take down targets at over a thousand yards. Nice safe distance to be from the enemy.
Posted by: Ruthless at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (/uaBM)

size in inches * 27.8 / mils = range in yards

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 24, 2020 06:12 PM (M+Lyo)

157 Letting the terrorists control the streets is not deescalating violence -- it is setting the state for a true conflagration of small action skirmishes that lead to civil war.

Well, DUH!! That's the goal. That's the playbook. Eventually, one of you will cooperate.

Posted by: The Left and their D co-conspirators at June 24, 2020 06:12 PM (pbStR)

158 I have this fantasy in which the patriotic citizens of any given town gather together one night, something happens, and by morning all the rampaging troublemakers, as well as their quisling enablers, have mysteriously vanished. All is quiet in that little given town, with the exception of a lone excavator smoothing the dirt in that vacant lot on the edge of town. Just a fantasy, nothing more.

Posted by: Equirhodont at June 24, 2020 06:12 PM (+2GwM)

159 For all of you wondering what to do, this clip is quite informative.
The cops were 1 block away. At one point the guy on the bike pulls out his phone to call 911 and the camera operator says you wanna talk to the cops they're right there and points.
This is being allowed.

You're gonna have to become Outlaws (not the MC though they don't get messed with much either).

The law is now a cudgel for some and a suggestion for others. Make of it what you will.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at June 24, 2020 06:12 PM (z79tQ)

160
Yeah, sorry if it seemed like I was disagreeing more than I was. I mostly just meant that if you find yourself in that situation... Well, I don't really know. It's scary to ponder that it's happening in the US.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Our policies are failures causing misery to millions, so you must be punished at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (NG6Iv)
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Well, I wasn't really disagreeing with your point, either.

it's something that needs to be discussed in a fashion so that people have enough information to make a decision if faced with this kind of scenario.

This is some scary crap.

These guys are really pushing, hard.

I am now forced to think and plan for situations that I never thought I would encounter in the US.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 24, 2020 06:12 PM (WEBkv)

161 This isn't a federal issue.

A couple of people waving guns does not justify the Insurrection Act.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:13 PM (cfSRQ)

162 I don't want Trump to send in troops just yet, but I want him to hammer on these worthless governors for not protecting their citizens. It's the governor's job to quell this.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 24, 2020 06:13 PM (Dc2NZ)

163 This post reeks of glow. 'Why isn't Drumpf playing into their hands?' Gee I wonder why.

Posted by: Deepelemblues at June 24, 2020 06:13 PM (fuJH0)

164
No, he wouldn't. Under the insurrection act, he can send the militia to arrest the governors of these states. Activate the militia, appoint former military at their former ranks to be the officers and noncoms of the militia, and appoint a military governor of that territory.
Read 10 USC 333.

Posted by: An Observation at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (tWK2i)

I stand corrected.

Therefore, he could do that, at his political demise and we'd be FUCKED with JOE BIDEN for the rest of his God forsaken life.

Fine. Call for him to do that. It will destroy the country.

I'd rather see liberal shithole states destroyed than the whole fucking country.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 06:13 PM (Zz0t1)

165 We know LEOs are on the other side. We know they won't do shit to threaten their sweet fat pensions.

More likely, they don't want to be thrown into prison for doing their job.

Trump's shitty poll numbers are not fake news.

Oh, look, another poll smoker.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 24, 2020 06:13 PM (naEeR)

166 a "flying squad" is a law enforcement unit, not a military one. They are teams who are assigned a specific type of crime and prosecute them without regard to jursidiction - that's what makes them "flying."

With investigation and photo analysis, the US government could have the rifle guy ID'd in 48 hours.

If it wanted to.

Posted by: ace at June 24, 2020 06:13 PM (PbpT7)

167 I just sent that video to the Ingham County Prosecutor....who looks like the poster child for Karens. I, also, sent it to their witness hotline.

So, now they have a record....for when it blows up in their faces.

Posted by: Orson at June 24, 2020 06:13 PM (nOSo7)

168 The current Democrat mayor of Lansing won 72% of the vote. You voted for this shit Lansing. You are getting it good and hard now. Lolgf

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 24, 2020 06:13 PM (2IW2q)

169 Flynn on Mark Levin.

As for Michigan...I'm not surprised.

Posted by: Senior Ballbag Spectacularrrrr at June 24, 2020 06:13 PM (xyImL)

170 Curious as to when this happened. That's a main thoroughfare, not a side street.

The top one is Lansing, either Monday or Tuesday of this week.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (ZCiJZ)

171 re 130: you never noticed the bolts on his neck? that kind of charge?

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (4a9Vv)

172 Failing, that's where. Gross dereliction of duty in my book. I'm tired
of being told we can't fight the Left because "it would give them just
what they want."
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They want a martyr. They have a plan for parading a "victim" around endlessly with whatever made up narrative gives them advantage. They all believe it won't be them.

They have not considered the possibility of getting a thousand.

Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (kOpft)

173 With all due respect, we have no way of knowing exactly what Trump is doing regarding this. It's probably not a good idea for him to broadcast his every move. You will, however, find some information on Conservative TreeHouse on his discussions and roundtables with various folks.

And I ask this-as I ask it of myself-might it be beneficial to take a break from the board?.

I agree Fen. I don't actually want the FedGov wading into the mess in Philly - and also, as I tried to say the other day, Philly really IS NOT THAT BAD right now!!!!

they did a thing the other day tho - a whole shit ton of Antifa/BLM/DNC whatevers poured into South Philly. in the middle of the day, blocked up the streets esp around Broad and Snyder.

the cops sent out messages and went around to the people of South Philly beforehand and asked them to not engage, to stay in for a few hours while they took care of it, because the Lunatics just wanted a conflict to happen

Nothing happened. Everyone stayed calm. No news on that. It was an op. It failed.

The Philly PD was on the case, honestly they were. What was done was the best thing.

Okay? Let the mayors and the governors etc etc deal with their own messes.

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfPrivilege at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (j9HX3)

174 How revolutionary.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2020 06:10 PM (ZLI7S)
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You know me, always rebellious.

Posted by: bluebell at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (/669Q)

175 87 An old ex-Marine advised me yesterday to get myself a .308. Says it can take down targets at over a thousand yards. Nice safe distance to be from the enemy.
Posted by: Ruthless at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (/uaBM)

There are no ex-Marines or former Marines.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (ejsiI)

176 When do the people that live closely around Lansing get seriously pissed and start the blockade? Cuz I'd be there already. You (police, residents who are not the actual thugs etc) choose to let this shit go on and the thuggery grow and escalate you can do it with your food and electricity cut off IMO.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (T9Hmo)

177 Really need to start popping heads.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 24, 2020 06:15 PM (4rS50)

178 It's like Disney decided to build a real-life "What was it like to live in a soviet country" section at epcot.

That's the All-Star Resorts.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 24, 2020 06:15 PM (naEeR)

179 Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 24, 2020 06:09 PM (ykYG2)

I'm listening. We're in the biggest war the world has ever known, and I want you to share some of your expertise.

Posted by: t-bird at June 24, 2020 06:15 PM (ELgVT)

180 This is the utube of #33
Tucker Carlson giving voice to what we are facing; exactly what is going on in America today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxHV5vu1Mo

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 06:15 PM (W54U5)

181 Relax, people. These regulators are just enforcing diversity and equality measures. It's not like somebody found a noose.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 24, 2020 06:15 PM (+y/Ru)

182 Anyone surprised by this has simply not been paying attention to the growing swell of anger against Trump.

Trump's failure last year to order a military attack in response to Iran shooting down a US drone has provoked justifiable outrage across the country and this regrettable development in Lansing is just the latest manifestation of displeasure with Trump's weak foreign policy.

Posted by: Twitter's Bill Kristol at June 24, 2020 06:15 PM (ayph+)

183 Yes, it's Lansing. Look up "Free people of Lansing" for more youtubery that will just piss you off.

The "cops" have their lights on, and are sitting down the stree a hundred yards away while they point a gun at the guy on the motorcycle.

Brandishing. Law Broken. Cops obviously ordered to remain in their cars and consume their donuts.

Why even bother to sit there? Well, in case somebody tries to respond to force with force of course. Then they'll swoop in and arrest the "law breaker" who out-vigilantied the vigimorons.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (TYUJ+)

184 President Trump is damned if he does something, damned if he does not.
I have no answers except the MI governor and Dims look pretty bad right now with no control.
The police have every right to quit law and order with no support.

I may be flat out wrong, but it is the Governor who sends in the National Guard.
We'll see.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Aging supermodel, Wuhan fighter at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (SK2xO)

185 The only option he has is martial law. Period.

He cannot just send troops into a state without that state requesting said troops.

What, exactly, would you like him to do?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 06:11 PM (Zz0t1)

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Correct, the City of Lansing, Ingham County and the State of Michigan have jurisdiction.

This seems a more pressing threat than a barber on Owosso.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (cfSRQ)

186 >>It's disturbing and disheartening to see police refusing to enforce the law against these freaks.

Seriously? What have we heard for the last few weeks? The cops are militant criminals who are so out of control they need to be defunded and replaced by social workers. They are quitting in large numbers all over the country and being told by their bosses not to enforce the law before their job is cut and people are surprised that cops are saying "Ok, have fun."?

It's not only not surprising it's entirely predictable.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (ZLI7S)

187 This is some scary crap.

These guys are really pushing, hard.

Yeah all of this. Absolutely.

It's organized. And it's motivated. This is not even like Ferguson. Totally different ball-game.

George Floyd got nothing to do with this "movement".

Soros is going for broke here.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (n4scg)

188 But Trump would be attacked! And he hasn't been badly treated by the press or the Dems or the GOP so far for 3 years!

Just throwing that in so that people who haven't actually read such things here know they are actually trotted out to argue that Trump dare not act.

Meanwhile, nah, mostly nothing here for the feds to do, in general, but I think it's a case-dependent thing, hard to generalize. Trump claims he pushed MN into sending NG into Mpls by threatening action - I don't know, maybe, certainly is plausible. So maybe just jawboning is enough.

What would be a presidential thing, and valuable, would be some kind of verbal or rhetorical leadership, which has been thin, to put it mildly. Even just a press release, with a translation of Macron's national address. Would be a start.

Sure, none of us thought we'd be desperate to see French levels of national cultural confidence and seriousness, much less Swedish levels of public health administration - but here we are.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (El6T/)

189 blake - semi lurker in marginal standing: "If at all possible, when out and about, bring a friend with a gun.

It doesn't matter if you're just running to the corner grocery store, bring a friend."

If at all possible, get your own gun and get trained. Like yesterday. Don't place responsibility and legal risk on a friend.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (HhXSr)

190 I'm guessing it would be perfectly legal for another rifle user to take him down from a distance since he's pointing the weapon at people, right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie

* checks 300,000 pages of notes *

No.
Posted by: BATF / FBI / State & Local PD at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (L6ZYH)
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There won't be video of the shooter, only of the body hitting the pavement.

And, not likely someone who does that will break OpSec.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (WEBkv)

191 So Ace gets it.

Wonder what it will take for commenters here to get it, too?

For those saying it's up to the Dem Gov's to do something, they have no incentive to do so. They have soaring approval ratings. The public prefers any Dem to any Republican now by over 10 pts. They aren't losing ground. As the riots increase, the Dem's lead increases. Same with Biden. He never has to leave his living room or do anything he doesn't want to.

Trump has no such luxury. His base sees him as weak an ineffectual. He HAS to take some action before you start to see State Capitol's overthrown. The reality is he'll still probably lose, but at least go down with a fight doing the right thing and not listening to Parscale and Kushner.

Posted by: WICapitolUnderSiege at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (n+FWu)

192 Oh, look, another poll smoker.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 24, 2020 06:13 PM

He looks like a beaten pussy right now, his numbers are 2nd Bush term low, and for EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING REASON. Calling me names doesn't change reality.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (I99aF)

193 There are no ex-Marines or former Marines.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (ejsiI)

A temporary civilian Marine came up and hugged me at a DD last week. LOL. The other people were a tad startled, but we had a good laugh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (85Gof)

194 is there a chance this is staged?

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (W2Pud)

195 Depending on where you love, the default position of "support law enforcement" may work against you.

Its plain enough - anyone that does not see it simply refuses to do so. In some places, law enforcement exists to assist the criminals in suppressing the citizenry.

If you live in one of those areas - its absolutely in your best interest to see less police funding. Its your only chance to fight back.

Posted by: Well Stocked at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (9K3Nr)

196 Soros is going for broke here.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization

He has to. It's not like he has a long shelf life like RBG does

Posted by: Rick in SK at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (FZYNt)

197 I just drove through Lansing. Saw none of the roadblocks.

Posted by: Mikey NTH Plague Your Rivals With Covfefe-19 From The Outrage Outlet! at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (EmdWv)

198 As the United States does NOT (contrary to popular opinion/belief) have a unitary government, I am not blaming Mr. Trump yet. And as shocking as it may sound, Lansing has a government, the county it is in has a government, and the State of Michigan has a government.

Time to press them into action.

In the meantime, it's a good thing I keep a gun in my truck. And I got my EDC ready to go.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (ejsiI)

199 What exactly do you want the POTUS to do Ace?

Set up roving squads of military/guard to patrol every street on the outskirts of Lansing or (insert city here)?

I'm still trying to wind myself down from the National Guard being activated in DC.....Unarmed.

I hate to be the doom and gloomer here but that moron who is breaking the law by using the rifle to extract a toll would think a whole lot differently if an abrupt clue smacked him in the face. Like lawlessness going both ways aka 55 grains of fuq off being the last thing that enters his brain where thoughts were suppose to be.

Right now it looks like Nazi Germany in some places with the Jews waiting for a knock at the door. Sorry to say.

Posted by: Drider at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (R/UH9)

200
156 An old ex-Marine advised me yesterday to get myself a .308. Says it can take down targets at over a thousand yards. Nice safe distance to be from the enemy.
Posted by: Ruthless at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (/uaBM)

size in inches * 27.8 / mils = range in yards
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at June 24, 2020 06:12 PM (M+Lyo)

***

That's my long shooter.
Got a short shooter as the eyes aren't what they used to be.
And ammo.
Mark and Weasel say it best.
Buy more!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (axyOa)

201 Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (I99aF)

You DICK!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (Zz0t1)

202 87. oh how I wish I had the good and steady aim for a 1000 yard shot. For hunting elk and deer. And if I was in the middle of that kind of BS I might even go 'hunting' cell phone towers and disrupt the young thugs' and their soy boy allies.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (T9Hmo)

203 Y'all wanna know why Republican politicians are spineless?

Because of shit like I'm seeing in this thread. People abandoning a politician on a whim. Why should they take any risks when their supposed supporters are just going to stab them in the back?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (naEeR)

204 "Leveling a rifle at the man's chest is felony assault. What the actual fuck is going on?" Posted by: imp

that's what I was thinkin' there is enough on video right there to arrest the one, if not all involved in the blockade. Faces are pretty clear ... or does Lansing have another Soros DA, ordered to stand down?

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (Cus5s)

205 I'm so old I remember how the democrats and the lying media said peacefully protesting with slung guns was a threat to the USA.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (pw+jk)

206 Ace,
I may not be with you on your analysis in hanging shelves/plasma tvs, but I'm with you on this- where the fuck is trump with this shit in Michigan.

Enough with his LAW and ORDER tweets (that is what he tweeted). Get on tv and address this shit. If not him, have Barr or his press secretary. Someone!

Posted by: Senior Ballbag Spectacularrrrr at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (xyImL)

207 175 87 An old ex-Marine advised me yesterday to get myself a .308. Says it can take down targets at over a thousand yards. Nice safe distance to be from the enemy.
Posted by: Ruthless at June 24, 2020 06:02 PM (/uaBM)

I have a couple in semi-auto death rifle (FAL & C30

. You can shoot those ALL damn day, so don't let the caliber scare you off.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (TYUJ+)

208 @Techno_Fog

Judge Sullivan has stayed all deadlines and the July 16, 2020 hearing date in the Flynn case.

(We won't see a Gleeson amicus reply brief at this time. See Gleeson's proposed order for reference.)

Now we wait and see if the DC Circuit will rehear the decision.

https://tinyurl.com/y9yhwkhw

Posted by: Tami at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (cF8AT)

209 Michigan has over 700,000 paid hunting license holders, many of who probably vote Democrat. Nevertheless, if shit really goes sideways I'll put my money on anti-ANTIFA.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (m/Gc2)

210 Posted by: BlackOrchidOfPrivilege at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (j9HX3)

Thanks for your informative post, and I'm glad to hear that it was handled appropriately.

I'm weary and not looking forward to the FU's between various posters. See all you folks later-maybe

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (+eVzC)

211 123 The fact that the police were sitting down there allowing this to happen means they're on board with it.

It doesn't mean they are on board with it
It means they were following orders
Whoever is the boss is whose orders they will follow

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (W54U5)

212 Right now it looks like Nazi Germany in some places with the Jews waiting for a knock at the door. Sorry to say.

Posted by: Drider at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (R/UH9)

Not his Jew or my neighbor with more ammo ( I think ) CBD

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (85Gof)

213 Welcome to Bellona, Kid.

Posted by: Samuel R. Delany at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (un3wS)

214 "The police are present here -- but they just sit on their thumbs as armed terrorist paramilitaries threaten lawabiding citizens with a rifle."

This makes the police complicit in the crime. This has been escalating since roads started to be blocked by "protestors" during the Ferguson madness.

"What happens when the next motorist stopped by the bandits has a gun, and decides that he, too, would like to brandish it?"

The police will kill him. The inactivity of the cops is more than just complicity, come to think of it. This makes law enforcement co-conspirators and accessories because the message is clear: YOU will allow the lawlessness, and if YOU try to intervene or defend yourself, WE will shoot YOU.

Trump has to act soon. I think he will.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (puu6v)

215 In wartorn countries in which all civil order has vanished, armed groups
begin seizing roadways and bridges and denying entry to those who don't
pay a "toll."

In 2002, my parents went on a medical missionary trip to Mexico. They were in Chiapas when their bus was stopped by armed Zapatistas using a tree log to block the road. The bus driver explained that the Zapatistas did this randomly once a week, and profusely apologized for the delay. A few pesos were exchanged, and the bus went on its way. The prayers of the medical team that their bus and its supplies not be confiscated definitely were answered. (Also the prayer of my mother that the Zapatistas did not hear my father's critique of their weapon handling.)

Posted by: pookysgirl, not social enough for social media at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (XKZwp)

216 Everyone who's giving up--and that includes Ace--are playing right into the Left's hands. They want Trump to send in the military too.

Are you really going to stay home and let Obama have a third--and possibly fourth term? The country couldn't stand it.

Posted by: Mike at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (WWn8/)

217 Welcome to the new normal, Anarchotyranny.

Posted by: butch at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (hXu8T)

218 You're right Catch and I apologize for the mistake. This was a Marine who served in 'Nam, is still a Marine, and is prepared to start killing again if necessary.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (/uaBM)

219 90 WTF - Lansing.

"Free people of Lansing".

Keep it up friends, you'll be the "Dead people of Lansing".

Of course THEN the Lansing police would actually DO something if you took exception to having guns pointed at you by hooligans on the street.

Does Michigan have no Brandishing laws?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:03 PM (TYUJ+)

Law, without force, is impotent

Posted by: Pascal at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (ejsiI)

220 Ace, a worthwhile thread from Schlichter might help or not...

@KurtSchlichter
All right, this is when this fight gets hard.

You have to control your emotions.

You see buttmunches in that DC park trying - and, not incidentally, failing (thanks to federal cops) - to pull down a statue.

And you let your emotions control you... 1/

twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/1275266713706094593

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (L6ZYH)

221 He looks like a beaten pussy right now, his numbers
are 2nd Bush term low, and for EXACTLY THE SAME FUCKING REASON. Calling
me names doesn't change reality.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 24, 2020 06:17 PM (I99aF)

---
For the same reason? What, he launched wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Take a valium.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (cfSRQ)

222 I agree, I think too many on the Right hope he just lets all of this fester and people will blame the Left.

---

As an electoral issue, so what if people 'blame' the Left? If Trump hasn't demonstrated a capacity and a willingness to end it, there's no reason to believe he will after the election, and therefore no additional reason to vote for him.

Remember the Democrats are doing this without holding the White House. They aren't going anywhere just because he's reelected.

Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (kOpft)

223 Whole lot of putting the cart before the horse.

There is a Mayor and Gov'ner that have to make a move first.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (z02nf)

224 Jim "I'll Have Another Drink" Kenney is the worst mayor Philadelphia has had in my lifetime, and believe me, we've had some terrible kings.

This prick would remove the Liberty Bell if he thought it would pacify the racist mobs. And no, that is not hyperbole.

Every statue in this town will be gone before the end of his reign, and the Birthplace of Liberty will be gone forever.

Fuck these people. DIAF Kenney.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (bkUtD)

225 These people need to die. It's that simple. You want to live by the gun, you die by the gun.

Posted by: deadrody at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (V9901)

226
It doesn't mean they are on board with it
It means they were following orders
Whoever is the boss is whose orders they will follow
Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM (W54U5)
-------------

I see this as the natural outgrowth of putting cops in a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" position.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (WEBkv)

227 Correct, the City of Lansing, Ingham County and the State of Michigan have jurisdiction.

This seems a more pressing threat than a barber on Owosso.

Barber in Owosso is a tax paying white who is probably a Christian.

Protestors are violent people of color who probably don't pay taxes.

Which is the easier target?

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (ZCiJZ)

228 Wonder what it will take for commenters here to get it, too?

Posted by: WICapitolUnderSiege at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (n+FWu)

Is it okay for some of us to disagree with Ace and you, or should we march in lockstep?

Just curious.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (dLLD6)

229 Well I'm telling you son
That it ain't no fun
Staring straight down a forty-four
Gimme Three Steps and you'll never see me no more.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (q1Pj5)

230 117 Trust Trump. The marxists WANT him to declare martial law. He will if he must, but the people have to understand why it is necessary.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 24, 2020 06:06 PM (dNzKv)

There are so many things Trump can do with the bully pulpit short of martial order. This was an existential war long before this violent expression of it erupted, and above all else that's what it will remain into the future. Trump needs to get rhetorically and intellectually dialed into who and what the Left is. He's just not up to speed on this.

Posted by: Insignificant White Guy at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (H8QX8)

231 Members of the WI legislature were told today to remove things of value (financial and sentimental) from their offices because a full-fledged assault on the WI State Capital is a possibility.

Posted by: WICapitolUnderSiege at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (n+FWu)

232 Welcome to Bellona, Kid.
Posted by: Samuel R. Delany at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (un3wS)

My Bellona has a first name. It's Oscar.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (Zz0t1)

233

The current Democrat mayor of Lansing won 72% of the vote. You voted for this shit Lansing. You are getting it good and hard now. Lolgf
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member

As infuriating as the video is, and the nonchalance of the cops in allowing a felony to be committed without doing a damned thing, you are right.

My suggestion would be to call up a buddy and have them start firing on the felon form a distance and then obstruct any police attempt to find the shooter by laying the bike down (accidentally) in front of the cop car. Those of us stuck behind enemy lines are slowly going to be turned into a guerilla force out of sheer necessity.

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (SFOr6)

234 go back to the satchel or get a teeny tiny gun--Embrace the 'and'

Posted by: FrodoB-
Former otter wrangler at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (dQF3z)

235 Just read at the Federalist the ball is still in Judge Sullivan's hands, Gen Flynn isn't a free man yet if Sullivan wants to keep playing hard ball.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (6f16T)

236 Mobs rule until they win or some get killed. When there is a cluster of 10 people screaming at cops and suddenly something is thrown, a brick, a Molotov cocktail, or a bottle of acid, the cops have to open fire until the the thrower is dead. That means killing half the people there. It will be horrible, unfair to those who had no part of the weapon but you have to have a commitment to law and order. If you cannot kill for law and order, lay on the ground for someone to put their knee on it.

"When you ride with horse thieves, you hang with horse thieves." That came from a time when loosing the horses could mean death by starvation, and death for your children. 1000 times worse than Floyd's death.
The democrat mayors have left the cops without non-lethal weapons. So be it. Use the lethal weapons. Look up the Boston Massacre. John Adams, future president, defended the British troops for exactly these reasons.

Posted by: FlimFlammed at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (ZTDnL)

237 # 2 was delete or something...

@KurtSchlichter
Except they lost tonight.

Lost.

They tried to pull down a statue and federal cops stopped them.

Yet half of conservative Twitter is freaking out.

"TRUMP'S DOING NOTHING!" they cry.

So the left got you doing exactly what it wanted...by losing? 3/

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (L6ZYH)

238 Mayor of Lansing is Andy Shor, a democrat naturally. I wouldn't be surprised if the police have been ordered to stand back.

Posted by: Cheri at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (oiNtH)

239 ...
Why even bother to sit there? Well, in case somebody tries to respond to force with force of course. Then they'll swoop in and arrest the "law breaker" who out-vigilantied the vigimorons.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (TYUJ+)

And someone damned the rough justice of the Texas Rangers.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 06:20 PM (W54U5)

240 FFS, I know that as a sperg I suck at reading the room, but I'm not trolling here. I don't think Trump should call out the military to use on US streets, except perhaps as a very last resort, which we're not at yet. I'm speculating that the reason that the President who's big on law and order might be appearing to do nothing is that he's in a position where he's extremely limited in what his choices are.

This should be firmly in the realm of the federal law enforcement agencies, with people being deprived their civil rights by bands of armed partisans, but we know that Trump has about zero actual pull with them.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:21 PM (L106N)

241 For the idiots saying "Biden might as well be President! ", keep in mind something. He'll step down not to long after he's elected. Then his far left, anti-American VP moves in and it's glorious "Utopia". Be careful what you wish for.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 24, 2020 06:21 PM (TDmqj)

242 I suddenly want pizza, enough to fill a classroom.

Posted by: Mr. Hand at June 24, 2020 06:21 PM (un3wS)

243 And I'm starting to think Ace is right on this. I don't see Trump getting elected with all this anarchy. Normal people blame the violence on the current regime. They'll want change for change's sake.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:21 PM (bkUtD)

244 125 How about the Governor of Michigan fixing this? It's her responsibility and this is happening in her front yard.
=============
The governor is part of the problem. She is busy persecuting Corona-chan violators instead of doing her job.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 24, 2020 06:21 PM (W+kMI)

245 Jesus, guys. Be a bit nicer to boulder. Some conservatives are pussying out and losing their minds because they're behind enemy lines. They're surrounded by insane animals who will loot them and rape their children, they obviously can't effectively defend themselves, and if by some miracle they did drive off the joggers they would go to jail. To be raped by joggers.

Urban Republicans should really read up on the history of Reconstruction. Learn what happened to a certain kind of carpetbagger or uppity Freedman who became high priorities. It's going to be SO much worse for the urban Republicans, who will suffer like they were in South Africa of Zimbabwe. They'll be praying for anyone, even white supremacists, to come save them. And will get only silence.

Posted by: trev006 at June 24, 2020 06:21 PM (36S7u)

246
Michigan has over 700,000 paid hunting license holders, many of who probably vote Democrat. Nevertheless, if shit really goes sideways I'll put my money on anti-ANTIFA.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 24, 2020 06:18 PM

Michigan also has issued approx. 700,000 carry permits

Posted by: AltonJackson at June 24, 2020 06:22 PM (5wTO9)

247 This was a Marine who served in 'Nam, is still a Marine, and is prepared to start killing again if necessary.
Posted by: Ruthless at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (/uaBM)

Most Marines are. THAT is exactly what Parris Island is for...and that other place in Hollywood

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:22 PM (85Gof)

248 Screw that "president". We have no president, currently. We may as well have Biden. One senile old woman-molester or another.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 24, 2020 06:09 PM (ykYG2)

BTH the Trump hatred is eating at your brain. I thought it was just WuFlu you were going off the deep end about but Jesus man.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 24, 2020 06:22 PM (nAiE/)

249 Trump basically said get the popcorn when it comes to violence in blue jurisdictions.
They want him to crack down.
When the White House was under attack, he called for the MAGA crowd to show up.
As Tucker Carlson said, why should we pay our taxes if the government does not perform its basic function of protecting citizens from mobs.

Posted by: Valiant at June 24, 2020 06:22 PM (3MiF8)

250 We keep saying,"oh, wait until they come up to someone carrying". If someone carrying shoots one of these asdholes the police would jump into action. Individuals don't stand a chance and the military won't back Trump. We are f 'ed unless we begin to use our heads.

Posted by: Megthered at June 24, 2020 06:22 PM (H2vIV)

251 There is a certain "what are you going to do?" aspect to this when the people that inhabit these states/cities are A-Ok with it and keep the same people in charge.

Something tells me not one person in Lansing gets voted out over any of this.

You basically have to either leave or get in a shootout and probably give up your life savings and future defending your life from some blue city DA.

If cops were truly honorable, they would stand up to this, but they are only interested in punching a clock and getting their pension.

Posted by: Blago at June 24, 2020 06:22 PM (gkdnV)

252 Every time they do this it's at least robbery if not kidnapping and extortion. Somebody will get shot if they keep it up.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - fighting with a dying hard drive at June 24, 2020 06:23 PM (SchxB)

253 "No."

Posted by: Rorschach at June 24, 2020 06:23 PM (n4scg)

254 218 You're right Catch and I apologize for the mistake. This was a Marine who served in 'Nam, is still a Marine, and is prepared to start killing again if necessary.
Posted by: Ruthless at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (/uaBM)

Oh, trust me, the Marines themselves have corrected me on that quite a few times.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:23 PM (ejsiI)

255 Is it them
or
is it us?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbigVkiAe0s

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 06:23 PM (W54U5)

256 38 Mayor of Lansing is Andy Shor, a democrat naturally. I wouldn't be surprised if the police have been ordered to stand back.
========
There is no surprise. Lansing is now a less noisy version of Seattle and Portland. the police are on a tight leash and they know it, and aren't about to lose their jobs by enforcing the law they have been sworn to serve, but are prohibited to do so.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 24, 2020 06:23 PM (W+kMI)

257 Ain't no gun nut going to do s***.

Posted by: MAGA at June 24, 2020 06:23 PM (f9lwT)

258 Jesus, guys. Be a bit nicer to boulder. Some conservatives are pussying out and losing their minds because they're behind enemy lines. They're surrounded by insane animals who will loot them and rape their children, they obviously can't effectively defend themselves, and if by some miracle they did drive off the joggers they would go to jail. To be raped by joggers.

Uh huh......Sure.

You just keep fuckin' that chicken.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 06:24 PM (Zz0t1)

259 216 Everyone who's giving up--and that includes Ace--are playing right into the Left's hands. They want Trump to send in the military too.
Are you really going to stay home and let Obama have a third--and possibly fourth term? The country couldn't stand it.
Posted by: Mike at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (WWn8/)

Mike- I concur with your assessment- they DO want Trump to send in NG troops and have another Kent State. I made the same point to my old man earlier today. The propaganda coup they would net from ONE shooting would be immeasurable (and wait for the Biden sponsored commercials where the KY NG blasted someone during the riots- they're coming)

But I ask you this- what can be done if local politicians who have the ability to fire local cops (who are supposed to enforce the law) won't do anything? how do you vote out entrenched politicians who are in deep blue areas? How do you fight a corrupt DA or city attorney who would rather prosecute a cop (as in Seattle) than a rioter?

I ask because I don't know. I'm at a loss on this one guys. But we are losing the narrative on this shit- and the 1619 project has been the napalm added to the fire.

Posted by: Senior Ballbag Spectacularrrrr at June 24, 2020 06:24 PM (xyImL)

260 And this is why I live in Texas and not Massashithole.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:24 PM (TYUJ+)

261 "No."

Posted by:�Rorschach�at June 24, 2020 06:23 PM (n4scg)

That's very tolerant and diverse of you to not slaughter the criminal joggers. A pat on the head for you, my trenchcoat hobo friend.

Posted by: trev006 at June 24, 2020 06:24 PM (36S7u)

262 If the police have ceded control of the streets to the vigilantes, then the police are just allies of the vigilantes.

Posted by: ace

=============

if you read between the lines, you probably can tell that the JCOS and other generals have told Trump to fuck off, they won't help him.

so, that's nice.

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 06:24 PM (rnk6i)

263 Is this the wobbly thread?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 24, 2020 06:24 PM (oVJmc)

264 As Tucker Carlson said, why should we pay our taxes if the government does not perform its basic function of protecting citizens from mobs.
Posted by: Valiant

Because our country has become a fundamentally unserious place, and he knows this more than you or Tucker do.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 24, 2020 06:24 PM (L6ZYH)

265 yeah the hobo has gone off the deep end

maybe he was always a moby tho

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfPrivilege at June 24, 2020 06:24 PM (j9HX3)

266 The problem is that those retiring pos ex generals Mattis, Mille, Kelly, Mullen, Allen, Dempsey, Mcraven and the other scrote sucking anti-american generals have handcuffed us from being able to control order by suggesting that the military step down, just like the police do in Dem cities, and abandon the President's orders. Those generals need to lose all their clearances and being sued for sedictive actions. I hate those POS Generals for what they have done to this country in supporting its destruction.

Posted by: Johnny Biface at June 24, 2020 06:25 PM (RvTz9)

267 >>And this is why I live in Texas and not Massashithole.

Lansing is in Michigan. It's a whole different state.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2020 06:25 PM (ZLI7S)

268 There will be no peaceful divorce.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 24, 2020 06:25 PM (KnJdm)

269 That's very tolerant and diverse of you to not slaughter the ~~criminal~~ VOTING joggers.

fixed.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 24, 2020 06:25 PM (n4scg)

270 "And where the fuck is Trump? "

Fearlessly fighting the media on Twitter!

I don't think Trump understands how desperately people are craving the comfort of leadership.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 24, 2020 06:25 PM (WkTpz)

271 These are local matters up to the state's, the Federal government doesn't come to every street where armed robbery is occurring.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:26 PM (6f16T)

272 243 And I'm starting to think Ace is right on this. I don't see Trump getting elected with all this anarchy. Normal people blame the violence on the current regime. They'll want change for change's sake.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:21 PM (bkUtD)

There's a point at which anger either forms into action or becomes exhausted. If this goes on just like this straight to November I can see a lot of voters feeling demoralized and not voting at all.

Posted by: Insignificant White Guy at June 24, 2020 06:26 PM (H8QX8)

273 And the law abiding citizen who drops him would be buried under the jail.

Posted by: Moron Robbie

The law abiding citizen would hopefully take his head off from a treeline half a mile away, displace, do another, then pack up and go home and never mention it to anyone.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 24, 2020 06:26 PM (4rS50)

274 . Guess Trump is stuck with Barr .......
Trump , and the country, desperately need a real, live, aggressive, fearsome AG.,

Posted by: Voter theater. at June 24, 2020 06:26 PM (IX8ZS)

275 >>>Is this the wobbly thread?

I'm still voting for Trump. Obviously. I also enjoy watching blue shitholes burn - including my town. I just think the anarchy turns off the people on the fence.

Doesn't help that blue governors are continuing to keep states closed, and ruining the economy.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:26 PM (bkUtD)

276
Trump can call Biden "Sleepy Joe" all he wants, but in a time of chaos like this, voters might want a little sleep. And all you guys claiming Trump is playing 4D chess can whistle past the graveyard all you want but at this rate November is going to be a disaster.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 24, 2020 06:23 PM (3ufaJ)

Trump has been on TV and on Twatter doing the only thing he can do when it comes to this shit.

Calling for the GOVERNORS OF THE STATES to do their jobs.

The people know this. Fearing his poll numbers makes you a poll smoker.

The thing that makes him look worse is overstepping his authority or sending in troops to fight Americans.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 06:27 PM (Zz0t1)

277 And I'm starting to think Ace is right on this. I
don't see Trump getting elected with all this anarchy. Normal people
blame the violence on the current regime. They'll want change for
change's sake.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:21 PM (bkUtD)

I think that is an excellent point. I am not sure that the sleepy electorate blames the President yet, but that can start quickly and be very difficult to stop.

I think the answer is not to declare martial law but to use his bully pulpit (as was suggested up-thread) and broadcast these situations to the country as a reminder of what they will get if they continue to vote Democrats into office.

Then send in the BATF and grab everyone in that video on federal weapons charges.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 24, 2020 06:27 PM (dLLD6)

278 An old ex-Marine advised me yesterday to get myself a .308. Says it can take down targets at over a thousand yards.

That takes some talent. More than I've got.

Now, 500 yards ? I can do that all day - and you can too after a day at the range off a bipod. Love the .308. Mine is a Rem 700 with the bull barrell and aftermarket syn stock.

Posted by: Well Stocked at June 24, 2020 06:27 PM (9K3Nr)

279 All you people demanding Trump send in the troops RIGHT NOW need to chill.

Seriously.

There's a pretty decent Michigan contingent in the Horde and most of us are just now learning about this.

So saying "Michigan is doing nothing!!!1!" is not really accurate, since we're only now finding out about it.

Knowing the area, I don't think people are fine with armed roadblocks. I'm very interested to see how this played out.

For those who don't know, a black man was waving a gun on a major street west of Lansing last week and was shot dead by a permit holder. No major news coverage. No arrest that I know of.

So why not let the locals have a crack at dealing with this before you demand Trump send in the 82nd Airborne?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:27 PM (cfSRQ)

280 250 We keep saying,"oh, wait until they come up to someone carrying". If someone carrying shoots one of these asdholes the police would jump into action. Individuals don't stand a chance and the military won't back Trump. We are f 'ed unless we begin to use our heads.
Posted by: Megthered

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decades of reading about how tough conservatives are and such...when the SHTF how we'll crush the libs. Nah, the street gangs actually have a group of fellow minded, armed criminals while most conservatives barely know their own families or neighbors. And yeah, you can bet any attempt to organize would be JDAM'd.

sorry about it.

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 06:27 PM (rnk6i)

281 "243 And I'm starting to think Ace is right on this. I don't see Trump getting elected with all this anarchy. Normal people blame the violence on the current regime. They'll want change for change's sake."

One of the few things that trump, no pun intended, economics is domestic security. If people think they are physically endangered they will look elsewhere. In this case, right now both Biden and Trump are weak horses, so why not give the other weak horse a chance?

Trump has to become the strong horse again to win. I think he will. And even if this were to remain a contest between two weak horses and Trump won, what exactly would he "win?" We are on the cusp of textbook genocide against whites and to a lesser extent others who are perceived as whites. It has to be stopped, one way or another.

And those complicit police are not allies. They are co-conspirators.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 24, 2020 06:27 PM (puu6v)

282 Trump will not win reelection if his legacy is a country that looks like Mogadishu.
******
Lighten Up Francis ! Lansing has always been a shithole

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (n/LcJ)

283 There are no ex-Marines or former Marines.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (ejsiI)

=========

Have to disagree. Example: John Murtha.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes , the Housekeeper at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (PiwSw)

284 268 >>And this is why I live in Texas and not Massashithole.

Lansing is in Michigan. It's a whole different state.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2020 06:25 PM (ZLI7S)

Oh, I know. I posted it was Michigan above. But it's this Democrat Liberal "thinking" that causes this shit to take place.

But I'll say this about Masswatuchetts, they'd freak if ANYONE walked out on the streets with long guns. The State Mounties would be on that in a heartbeat.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (TYUJ+)

285 I think the enduring shit show is why the market took a dump today.

Posted by: blaster at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (ZfRYq)

286 >>>There's a point at which anger either forms into action or becomes exhausted. If this goes on just like this straight to November I can see a lot of voters feeling demoralized and not voting at all.

Mostly GOP voters. You know the left will be out in droves to drop OrangeManBad

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (bkUtD)

287 213 Welcome to Bellona, Kid.
Posted by: Samuel R. Delany at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (un3wS)
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Heh.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (Dc2NZ)

288 Two of my sons, aged 18 and 20, are delivery drivers for construction companies. What are they to do when they encounter something like this? I worry for their sake. They are just out there trying to do their jobs. My 25 has purchased a few guns and is working to get his concealed carry and my 20 year old will follow. Sporting goods stores are nearly out of ammo.

WTF IS GOING ON? Our country is unrecognizable.

Posted by: Chuck at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (u2D/u)

289
I ask because I don't know. I'm at a loss on this one guys. But we are losing the narrative on this shit- and the 1619 project has been the napalm added to the fire.

welp. ok so I don't live in philly anymore but I know a lot who do. who are Dems. they are extremely pissed off. they are voting Trump. they are openly saying this shit is because of the Dems.

you guys are wherever I don't know. I don't know why the northwestern part of the rust belt is such a hot mess of nonsense. maybe I'd know more if I was there.

but I know Philly is over this crap. I know there's only so far Kenney will be allowed to go. I know our unions don't have a death wish. I know our cops are good cops.

so whatever. this is rough and I worry about my family and friends in town all the time, but they are honestly a hell of a lot calmer than I am. and when I go into town now, it's pretty normal if hot and dirty (as usual). it's always kind of empty in the summer everyone is at the shore!

august comes around, everyone is back from the shore, whatever nonsense is left straggling on, is going to end. this is the silly season normally - only madmen and englishmen are still in the city ha ha

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfPrivilege at June 24, 2020 06:29 PM (j9HX3)

290 Then send in the BATF and grab everyone in that video on federal weapons charges.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

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That would be an excellent start. Start rounding up these people and charging them.

You don't have to send in tanks to really change the dynamic.

Posted by: Blago at June 24, 2020 06:29 PM (gkdnV)

291
Have to disagree. Example: John Murtha.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes , the Housekeeper at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (PiwSw)

He's a former oxygen user.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 06:29 PM (Zz0t1)

292 @241
Trump's anti-American leftist daughter and son-in-law are president right now. That's why it be like it do.

Posted by: oblig. at June 24, 2020 06:29 PM (iF7OH)

293 267 The problem is that those retiring pos ex generals Mattis, Mille, Kelly, Mullen, Allen, Dempsey, Mcraven and the other scrote sucking anti-american generals have handcuffed us from being able to control order by suggesting that the military step down, just like the police do in Dem cities, and abandon the President's orders. Those generals need to lose all their clearances and being sued for sedictive actions. I hate those POS Generals for what they have done to this country in supporting its destruction.
Posted by: Johnny Bifac

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Didn't the joint chiefs of staff put out a big letter to the whole military saying they supported black libes mitter?

I lurk, but once or twice this shit year, I felt like posting. This is some sad shit.

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 06:29 PM (rnk6i)

294 >>>I think the answer is not to declare martial law but to use his bully pulpit (as was suggested up-thread) and broadcast these situations to the country as a reminder of what they will get if they continue to vote Democrats into office.

If nothing else, the ads they're churning out are devastating to Democrats.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:29 PM (bkUtD)

295 Citizen: "So given today's confirmation that Obama was the coup kingpin we already knew he was, this means a massive disaster or tragedy of some kind will happen within the next week, to suck all the air out of the room on this. You know it. I know it."

If, and it's a big one, there's any traction in the Enemedia WRT Obama's leading the coup, then, yes, there will be the biggest squirrel we've seen in over 150 years thrown out to protect him. Alas, it will be the Enemedia that throws it, so I don't think the Obama-Led Coup story ever crosses their tongues.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 24, 2020 06:30 PM (HhXSr)

296
All this shit started with obama. He's a racist & encouraged it.

Posted by: MHK at June 24, 2020 06:30 PM (iQIUe)

297 Are we still pretending the country could be salvaged and returned to normal?

Posted by: National Divorce at June 24, 2020 06:30 PM (PUrOB)

298 There are no ex-Marines or former Marines.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (ejsiI)

=========

Have to disagree. Example: John Murtha.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes , the Housekeeper at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (PiwSw)

hard to argue with that. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:30 PM (85Gof)

299 Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (bkUtD)
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UMMMMM NO !! You have to have something to vote FOR, Not against

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:30 PM (n/LcJ)

300 286 I think the enduring shit show is why the market took a dump today.

no it was a bunch of fake COVID new cases fake garbage

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfPrivilege at June 24, 2020 06:30 PM (j9HX3)

301 And I think scrambling the "military" to deal with this rag tag bunch of dip shits is way over the top.

Don't know - does Michigan not have county mounties and state mounties that could break this shit up if the local cops are told to sit with their fingers up their noses?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:30 PM (TYUJ+)

302 Where's the FBI's "Fab Fifteen" when ya need 'em?

Posted by: DB- just DB. at June 24, 2020 06:30 PM (iTXRQ)

303 280:

"So why not let the locals have a crack at dealing with this before you demand Trump send in the 82nd Airborne?"

People have started to think locals won't deal with it. Thanks for giving the local report. I kind of know the area, too, and can't see locals allowing this to continue and it was good to read that.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 24, 2020 06:30 PM (puu6v)

304 WTF IS GOING ON? Our country is unrecognizable.
Posted by: Chuck at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (u2D/u)

It's called democrats. BLM is an ActBlue subsidiary, just like SPLC. This is the civilian force Obama wanted.

Posted by: CN at June 24, 2020 06:30 PM (ONvIw)

305 >Didn't the joint chiefs of staff put out a big letter to the whole military saying they supported black libes mitter?

Got a source for that?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:31 PM (L106N)

306 >>>but I know Philly is over this crap. I know there's only so far Kenney will be allowed to go. I know our unions don't have a death wish. I know our cops are good cops.

The asshole actually wants to run for governor. Can you imagine this POS in the governor's spot?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:31 PM (bkUtD)

307 Is it still considered "too extreme" to talk about conspiracies?

Posted by: Iftwilp at June 24, 2020 06:31 PM (gqvXZ)

308 And I'm starting to think Ace is right on this. I don't see Trump
getting elected with all this anarchy. Normal people blame the violence
on the current regime. They'll want change for change's sake.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:21 PM (bkUtD)

Funny, I am living it, I know exactly who is to blame and it ain't Trump.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 24, 2020 06:31 PM (nAiE/)

309 Again, Trump sending in the military, firing on Americans (even if they are scumbags) is exactly what the Left wants. Then they have their evidence that Trump's crazy and a dictator. You and I won't believe that, but the general public will.

Let the cities burn. Let the Left talk about defunding the police while also insisting that they take your gun. It's not a winning strategy.

Posted by: Mike at June 24, 2020 06:31 PM (WWn8/)

310 what part of thew DemonTARDS what Kent State aart DUH don't you get & this is a Michigan & Lansing Problem

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:31 PM (n/LcJ)

311 I have a list of third world shit holes complete with bandits on the roads and those other shit holes have lower taxes than this one.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at June 24, 2020 06:32 PM (AgR7f)

312 293 @241
Trump's anti-American leftist daughter and son-in-law are president right now. That's why it be like it do.
Posted by: oblig. at June 24, 2020 06:29 PM (iF7OH)

No, Trump has Ivanka all tied up with women's labor department issues.

Posted by: CN at June 24, 2020 06:32 PM (ONvIw)

313 >>>Funny, I am living it, I know exactly who is to blame and it ain't Trump.

As do I, but I don't think the left thinks that way. Everything is Trump's fault, including Jusssie Wallace's noose.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:32 PM (bkUtD)

314 I may be flat out wrong, but it is the Governor who sends in the National Guard.
We'll see.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky, Aging supermodel, Wuhan fighter at June 24, 2020 06:16 PM (SK2xO)

A state's NG CAN be federalized by the President and sent into action. (There are different levels of mobilizations.) IIRC the last time this was done was in 1970 by President Nixon in response to the postal strike.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:32 PM (ejsiI)

315 We all know that if a citizen took the law in his hand to protect himself or others from a gun wielding black leftist, the FBI would be there lickity split to investigate/prosecute him for hate crime.

On the other hand a black leftist depriving peaceful citizens of their rights bare warrants notice.

Posted by: MAGA at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (f9lwT)

316 Not voting for Trump this is what you will have from big cities to medium sized. You are going to vote for civilization or not vote for anarchy, your choice.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (6f16T)

317 254 Ace is right. You guys are high af if you think this chaos "helps" Trump. The voters don't blame Trump for the virus as evidenced by his approval ratings during the outbreak but they ABSOLUTELY blame him for the riots.

The more this chaos drags on, the more it helps Joe Biden. The white middle class independent voters, who are the most powerful voting bloc in this country, will vote for Biden as a bargaining chip with the mob
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Sorry man, it ain't so. Trump has been hindered by the Deep State and the Obamistan remainers he was (unwisely) advised not to replace ASAP. He has actually tried to be a good Federalist and get the governors to do their effin' jobs, but the Blue State governors want to sink him. Don't blame Trump for his enemies' scheming. they want him gone soonest, and this little shitshow is the preview for what they have in mind for us.

Now that has been said, Biden isn't scoring points either. He is AWOL in the cellar, he is a tired old dotard and THE ENTIRE NATION knows it, even if CNN and PMS-NBC pretend otherwise. Trump has to win this year, if nothing else so he can clean house with a vengeance. It's Civil War II for sure otherwise, and then the Republicans being cast aside for the Caesar, or Pinochet, who promises to fill mass graves with Leftists and restore law and order. I'm not ready to go there yet, even if some fire-eaters here are. Viva Trump, who can save the Republic of 1787 from its stupid citizens.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (W+kMI)

318
FWIW, I have read that this is a Color Revolution sponsored by Soros. When the government clamps down on the insurgents, the populace turns against the government.

These people want Trump to use the iron fist of the law/ military. That's what most people do. By not doing that, Trump is keeping the populace on his side. As strange as that seems.
Posted by: shibumi

Agree. Although I like the idea of stealthy raids to snatch up the worst offenders and dump them in Gitmo.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (n4scg)

319 We have to put up with this bullshit of Dems allowing this mayhem until the election. They are willing to destroy this country to get Trump and a Kent State type incident would destroy his chance at re-election. So he has to walk a very fine line.

He does need to ramp up what pressure he can while sticking the responsibility for the mayhem on the Dems where it belongs. And we all need to be ready to vote as well as fight. It's scary but it is a certainty we will need to do both, and soon.

Posted by: Sharkman at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (4rS50)

320 I don't want Trump to send in troops just yet, but I want him to hammer on these worthless governors for not protecting their citizens. It's the governor's job to quell this.

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I completely agree. It's hard enough for regular people to figure out or really know what the limitations of Trump's powers are in situations like this. He needs to address this head on...but directing everything back on the shoulders of these horrible governors.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (O+I8R)

321 Welp.
The 42nd Street militia is coordinated and ready.
Comms are stable.
Sectors of responsibility are assigned.
Neighbors identified and trusted.
I wish I wasn't 29.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (axyOa)

322 But I'll say this about Masswatuchetts, they'd freak if ANYONE walked
out on the streets with long guns. The State Mounties would be on that
in a heartbeat.

Are you sure the state mounties would stand up against an angry black man with a long rifle?

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (ZCiJZ)

323
Jumping in, don't know if we've talked about this today.

California is set to roll back Prop 209, which outlawed affirmative action in college admissions back in 1996. Sacramento cleared it to hit the ballot in November.

Asians fighting it.

It appears that "yellow" is not a color, they have funny names, what's with those eyes, isn't there any hair color other than black.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (SFAhl)

324 So why not let the locals have a crack at dealing with this before you demand Trump send in the 82nd Airborne?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:27 PM (cfSRQ)

Those cops sitting there doing nothing have video of every minute and will have the CV of everyone in that video by the end of the day.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (W54U5)

325 The FOP, IAFF, and AGFE will all make hearty endorsements of Joe Biden. So fuck them.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (dNzKv)

326 So I guess now that Gen Flynn is free ! this is the new case of thee Vapors here

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (n/LcJ)

327 WTF IS GOING ON? Our country is unrecognizable.
Posted by: Chuck

History. History is going on.

I'm not sure why anyone is surprised.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (L6ZYH)

328 imo Trump should not go in without governor support ... it will be a voter decision in November that way. These incidents with blacks pointing guns at whites ... should mean arrests. But if Dems approve, a larger voter mandate by election might be better ...

Ending police, zones given over to terrorists and assorted crazies is not popular, and is is all a Dem action right now. "you revved your engine, so we can murder you for that threat" ... let Biden get behind that to win the black vote.

Lots of campaign material being delivered freely right now ... Dems back street terrorists ... put cops on stand down for mob "tolls", kidnapping is next I guess ... federal cases will come along soon enough, if governors don't put down the terror/meth pipe.

I would like to see Trump tweet about the criminal pointing the rifle though, where he asks the governor if she needs some help, or does she support terrorism?

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (Cus5s)

329 WTF IS GOING ON? Our country is unrecognizable.

Posted by: Chuck at June 24, 2020 06:28 PM (u2D/u)

It's largely gone.

Posted by: National Divorce at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (PUrOB)

330 And I think scrambling the "military" to deal with this rag tag bunch of dip shits is way over the top.

Don't know - does Michigan not have county mounties and state
mounties that could break this shit up if the local cops are told to sit
with their fingers up their noses?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:30 PM (TYUJ+)

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Yes. Lansing is the capital city and this intersection is within (distant) sight of the capitol building itself.

An additional complication is that Michigan is an Open Carry state, and people in both sides of the political spectrum like to walk around carrying rifles in public to freak everyone out. So armed protesters is sort of a thing.

The issue is that the rifle was pointed, which changes the game.

But - and I hate to ruin everyone's panic session - simply carrying a rifle around on a public street is not a crime in Michigan.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (cfSRQ)

331 >>But I'll say this about Masswatuchetts, they'd freak if ANYONE walked out on the streets with long guns. The State Mounties would be on that in a heartbeat.

Exactly my point. I'm seeing none of this in my state, heard nothing like this in MA. Michigan has a freak for a governor who has opened the door to this.

I've been driving around the country for the last few weeks and the really seeing no signs of this crap at all. Granted, I haven't driven through some of the hot spots but that is exactly what is happening, violence in isolated hot spots and not some nationwide uprising.

Nobody around me is getting tired of the violence cause there isn't any. So we want Trump to declare martial law or act under the insurrection act and somehow that is going to go over well in places where life is going as normal as it can under the Covid crap? Sure, that will go over bigly.

Chaz is already coming to and end in Seattle. This stuff will start to peter out everywhere because it was always fake outrage. The exact wrong move by Trump right now would be to do exactly what the left wants him to do, go over the top.

Don't interfere with your enemy when they are hurting themselves.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (ZLI7S)

332 OK Sponge.

It is too late to start shooting when you are being herded onto the trains.

It is too early to start shooting when you get a traffic ticket for 40 in 35 zone.

We are somewhere in between those two extremes, and somewhere between those two extremes is the proper time to start shooting. Have we reached it yet? I say no, not yet, but it draws closer by the day.

Which would you rather have, self appointed vigilantes fighting the leftists, or an organized, well regulated, militia, arresting Gretchen Whitmer for mass murder, and depriving the citizens of Michigan of their Constitutional Rights under color of law. Your choice.

Posted by: An Observation at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (tWK2i)

333 A legal question.

If a local Mayor or State Gubnor refuses to protect people's Constitutional rights, can they be arrested and charged and replaced?

If yes, rinse and repeat until someone does their job.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (Z+IKu)

334 323 Welp.
The 42nd Street militia is coordinated and ready.
Comms are stable.
Sectors of responsibility are assigned.
Neighbors identified and trusted.
I wish I wasn't 29.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (axyOa)

But do you have coffee? I kid. I kid.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes , the Housekeeper at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (PiwSw)

335 Trump ain't the "sheriff" and that's who this is a job for.

President. Right? Remember? 50 states? USA?

Not Sheriff of Lansing.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (TYUJ+)

336 Threaten to defund Michigan from the federal level. Absolutely no federal aid as long as they don't protect their citizens and enforce their laws.

Treat them like North Fucking Korea. They're far more dangerous.

Posted by: Iftwilp at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (gqvXZ)

337 If this is going on on one street corner in Lansing, then that's bad, but it's not bad enough to get me to vote for Joey Bidet.

Posted by: Caliban at June 24, 2020 06:35 PM (QE8X6)

338 If Trump hasn't gotten Lafayette Sq under control he isn't going to be helping Lansing.

Posted by: blaster at June 24, 2020 06:35 PM (ZfRYq)

339 PDT had a very definitive statement about the Andrew Jackson Statue and the police stood up.

He does not have authority to tell the Lansing cops what to do.

This is our Country and WE should act like it.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2020 06:35 PM (z02nf)

340 oh, OK, per ace update, yes, nab this guy for a federal crime, or all three of them, any involved.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2020 06:35 PM (Cus5s)

341 If there were any Neil Youngs in this era (and there aren't) they would be just waiting for their Tin Soldiers moment.

So far he hasn't taken the bait.

Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2020 06:35 PM (Qf83p)

342 293
Trump's anti-American leftist daughter and son-in-law are president right now. That's why it be like it do.

Posted by: oblig.

Good God, how about Tiffany, any way you want to drag her into this on every thread, too?

Posted by: old chick at June 24, 2020 06:35 PM (sOete)

343 I see the Concern Trolls who haven't been here a while are back

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:35 PM (n/LcJ)

344 I don't care how badly trump fucks this up. I will still vote for him. I don't want to see what the dems have planned with a biden presidency.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 24, 2020 06:36 PM (dNzKv)

345 @315

The last time the National Guard was Federalized was during the 1992 LA Riots under 'Joint Task Force - LA' consisting of the California National Guard, California based US Marine Corps units, and various tag-alongs.

Posted by: nevyan at June 24, 2020 06:36 PM (a7HML)

346 As do I, but I don't think the left thinks that way. Everything is Trump's fault, including Jusssie Wallace's noose.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:32 PM (bkUtD)

Those assholes were never going to vote for Trump anyway. I gotta say though, all of this chaos that independent can see with their own eyes is perpetrated and encouraged by Democrats are looking at this with non-crazy eyes.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 24, 2020 06:36 PM (nAiE/)

347 It's not the job of Trump or any President to maintain local law and order when the appropriate authorities simply refuse to do their damn job. The people of Lansing, MI, voted for this. Saving them from their bad choices only ensures they'll keep making them.

Mike

Posted by: MBunge at June 24, 2020 06:36 PM (7Nkan)

348 My biggest fear is people think the only way out is to appease the mob, and that means electing Biden.

I will say think though, 99.999% of the country is not getting stopped with a rifle by some thug on his way home. I'm not sweeping it under the rug, but you just like you might find a group of Hells Angels tearing something up, it doesn't mean we no longer have law and order.

The real problem here is cops are standing down because they are so scared to be called a racist or lose their job to some blue state authority.

Posted by: Blago at June 24, 2020 06:36 PM (gkdnV)

349 --

I completely agree. It's hard enough for regular people to figure out or really know what the limitations of Trump's powers are in situations like this. He needs to address this head on...but directing everything back on the shoulders of these horrible governors.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (O+I8R)

Tie an oil rag on their tails and light it.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 06:36 PM (W54U5)

350 314 >>>Funny, I am living it, I know exactly who is to blame and it ain't Trump.

As do I, but I don't think the left thinks that way. Everything is Trump's fault, including Jusssie Wallace's noose.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

like the left is gong to vote for trump in anyone's world?
PDT needs to keep pointing out that these places are run by democrats and have been for decades.

he needs to call out the mayors and governors and insist they do their jobs.

and show pictures. and graphs. and numbers.

and pound the shit out of those leaders to get their shit together.

he cannot order the military to invade our fucked up cities. that is what the left wants. and it's not the way to solve the problem. he has to make them fix their own mess, or get on their knees and BEG for federal assistance. ON the record. publicly. in a very loud voice.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 24, 2020 06:36 PM (W2Pud)

351 This isn't going away even when Trump wins, we keep the senate, and regain the house.

I predict it will intensify. It's eventually going to come down to us individually. When are we going to get up off our asses and stop this?

It's that simple really.

Posted by: Sooner - White blue-eyed debil at June 24, 2020 06:36 PM (Fs5vw)

352 309 And I'm starting to think Ace is right on this. I don't see Trump
getting elected with all this anarchy. Normal people blame the violence
on the current regime. They'll want change for change's sake.

Would Biden be able to stop it? I doubt it. And having Biden win would be handing a 'win' to the crazy progressives that want this. It would be akin to Chamberlain's 'appeasement' of Nazi's and the left would simply become bolder going forward.

I don't know what the answer is. In the meantime, I'm just going to keep working and raising my family. I don't hold out much hope that the Republicans will do anything helpful, but I'll vote that way anyway.

Posted by: Chuck at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (u2D/u)

353 I agree with Ace here, it's a fine line, but Trump needs to make a decision, he needs to do something about this other than just tweeting. I'm not sure what that "something" is but right now we have chaos and it needs to be stopped.

But also we as citizens also have a responsibility to step up as well.

Posted by: spypeach at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (Up/Jb)

354 Good god, the police are afraid of THAT f-in bunch? Aside from the three provocateurs they are all bed wetters.

Posted by: West at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (I3X4g)

355 The problem is if the Left wins the election by getting people to want a change for change sake then katie bar the door, because I don't think this is just about the election for the Leftists. This is about total and complete power. That guy in the video pointing the gun will be one of many to say kneel or die.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (r+sAi)

356 Like I said, local story. It won't get out nationally because it makes the wrong people look bad, both the perps and their betters. Won't hurt Trump a bit. He can't send in the 82nd for a bunch of dumb asses at some intersection in Detroit

Posted by: Javems at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (ofIwF)

357 >>>The FOP, IAFF, and AGFE will all make hearty endorsements of Joe Biden. So fuck them.

In my department, the FOP sends out endorsement letters. Arguably 90% of the members toss them into the shredder. They were going to endorse Hillary in 2016 and changed their mind after we rained angry messages down upon them.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (bkUtD)

358 306 >Didn't the joint chiefs of staff put out a big letter to the whole military saying they supported black libes mitter?

Got a source for that?
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:31 PM (L106N)

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Secretary of Defense announced a "diversity and inclusion" board. Since the military is already fully integrated and is probably the least racist organization in the world, the only purpose of this board appears to be to appease and listen to BLM.

Posted by: MAGA at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (f9lwT)

359 "FFS, I know that as a sperg I suck at reading the room, but I'm not trolling here. I don't think Trump should call out the military to use on US streets, except perhaps as a very last resort, which we're not at yet."

Agreed. We are far from being there yet.

And please, save the "Trump should be using the bully pulpit or saying some magic words aside from what he has already stated".

We do not have gatekeepers of truth anymore via our media. We do have half or so of our political leaders who want to amp this up and that includes the GOP.
Where the hell are most of them?
That being said, ASIDE from the POTUS stating that we need to have our law enforcement make adjustments to the brutality problem. ASIDE from the fact that he has stated over and over that he is ready to give the green light on National Guard assistance. ASIDE from the fact that he has stated that lawlessness will not be tolerated and backed it up with harsh penalties.

People seem to expect a genie lamp that is going to correct this problem by simply rubbing it and I get it, people are irritated and frustrated beyond belief on this.

The way I see it is that you just give it time up until or if an event takes place where it's do or die.

Posted by: Drider at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (R/UH9)

360 328 I think not so fast, Judge Sullivan still has to make the decision

thefederalist.com/circuit court just ordered flynns criminal charges to be dropped but judge sullivan might escalate things anyway

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (6f16T)

361 So why not let the locals have a crack at dealing with this before you demand Trump send in the 82nd Airborne?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:27 PM (cfSRQ)

Sayin.

The United States does NOT have a unitary government.

And, though I have never set foot in MI (and need to visit Lansing at some point, when it is somewhat saner), from what I know of the place, the locals won't sit well with this.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:38 PM (ejsiI)

362 Anyone see the news the GOP defended a seat in NY where they only won by 1000 votes in 2018?

This time around, GOP won by 25,000

Thats kind of a big deal.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Dialing a 900 Number To Talk to MAGA Babes at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (+dsLj)

That's my district. in 2018 the R on the ballot was under indictment for insider trading and guilty as hell. He still won by 0.3%. In 2016 Trump beat Hillary by 18% so that may be a better benchmark. Yesterday, in the election to fill the seat vacated by Mr. Insider Trading, the Republican won by 39%. Extrapolate as you see fit, but the folks I saw voting weren't demoralized, they were happy and cracking jokes.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer o

Wonderful

Posted by: LASue at June 24, 2020 06:38 PM (Ed8Zd)

363 Don't interfere with your enemy when they are hurting themselves.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (ZLI7S)

Yup. The right move here, may well be to make no move at all. The Left is really boxing themselves into a radical left wing violent position.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:38 PM (85Gof)

364 California is set to roll back Prop 209, which outlawed affirmative action in college admissions back in 1996. Sacramento cleared it to hit the ballot in November.

Asians fighting it.

Boy, if only there was something Asians could do about this. Like not vote for the Democrats doing this. Pretty hard to feel sorry for people about to lose out in a racial spoils system enacted by the people they insist on electing (because they say Republicans are racists).

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 24, 2020 06:38 PM (H5knJ)

365 The last time the National Guard was Federalized was during the 1992 LA Riots under 'Joint Task Force - LA' consisting of the California National Guard, California based US Marine Corps units, and various tag-alongs.

Posted by: nevyan

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Whoa there Big Shifter...we were not tag-a-longs.

Posted by: US Army I Corps Ft Lewis at June 24, 2020 06:38 PM (axyOa)

366 >>History. History is going on. I'm not sure why anyone is surprised.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (L6ZYH)

WUT? I thought we had reached "the end of history"!!???

Posted by: Caliban at June 24, 2020 06:38 PM (QE8X6)

367 Saw some write ups on this yesterday - they all contained the name and pictures of the self-appointed ring leader. Scooping his skinny pale ass up wouldn't be tough.

Except the police don't want to.

Posted by: Well Stocked at June 24, 2020 06:38 PM (9K3Nr)

368
Are you sure the state mounties would stand up against an angry black man with a long rifle?
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (ZCiJZ)
I kinda think so - Guns are an evil that outclasses racism in Massachusetts, at least inside the 128/495 ring roads where Karen and all her liberal sissypants neighbors live.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:38 PM (TYUJ+)

369 Joe Biden will make the trains run on time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 24, 2020 06:39 PM (dNzKv)

370 Ah, the music plays in Michigan.

Dance well, don't get captured.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 06:39 PM (ifmtJ)

371 it's just a tragedy there have been so many recent canoe accidents...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 24, 2020 06:39 PM (PiwSw)

372 My thought (for what little it's worth) is that within the next six months, each of us is going to have to dig deep within and muster up whatever measure of courage we have to offer. The collection plate will be passed around, as it has been more than a few times in the relatively brief history of this wonderful Republic.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 24, 2020 06:39 PM (EgshT)

373 So....when does President Trump start the counter punch? Not just a rallies or the Press Sec slapping bitches....but the actual campaign offensive?

So much read meat to slap the Marxists around with and bury them with....needs to start soon and I still believe Trump as the punching power to break some faces and splatter some brains.

Fingers crossed.

Posted by: GigantorX at June 24, 2020 06:39 PM (OpIjY)

374 This place was tough ! wtff happened. It is embarrassing. You need to take a walk & then come back & read this thread & be ashamed

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:39 PM (n/LcJ)

375 Secretary of Defense announced a "diversity and inclusion" board. Since the military is already fully integrated and is probably the least racist organization in the world, the only purpose of this board appears to be to appease and listen to BLM.
Posted by: MAGA at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (f9lwT)

Yawn. Don't make more out of words and fluff than they deserve. Most "boards" like that in the military go and peter away in the dark.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:39 PM (85Gof)

376 @358

'He can't send in the 82nd for a bunch of dumb asses at some intersection in Detroit.'
Yeah! You only do that when people are eating each other in sports stadiums of flooded Louisiana cities!
Seriously, does no one remember the 82nd Airborne being deployed and patrolling the flooded streets of New Orleans post-Katrina???

Posted by: nevyan at June 24, 2020 06:39 PM (a7HML)

377 Hrothgar, I first took that oath in 1968. It still counts.

Posted by: Eromero at June 24, 2020 06:39 PM (XhWtx)

378 "349 It's not the job of Trump or any President to maintain local law and order when the appropriate authorities simply refuse to do their damn job. The people of Lansing, MI, voted for this. Saving them from their bad choices only ensures they'll keep making them.

Mike"

If there is a deprivation of civil rights due to state action or inaction, it does become a federal issue.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 24, 2020 06:40 PM (puu6v)

379 WUT? I thought we had reached "the end of history"!!???
Posted by: Caliban

Hah. That didn't age well did it?

Who was that retard? A Clintonista if I remember.

Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2020 06:40 PM (Qf83p)

380 Regarding a comment about why local cops don't do anything:

Consider:
Seattle PD has been operating under the Federal Consent Decree for several years now due to racism allegations and what were later deemed bad shoots. As a result, cops have gone to minimal patrol because any complaint requires a full investigation that can leverage disciplinary action, termination, or jail. As a result, areas like Belltown and Pioneer Square are literal fucking homeless shelters and drug dealing zones.

Seattle is a hotbed of marxist/soy/liberals with a lotta money who live in condos in the nice areas of the city and don't have to mingle with the unwashed masses. They watch from their perch and cluck at the cops and the blight- but they keep voting for dem policies because guilt.
The City Attorney, Pete Holmes, consistently jacks with SPD and sides with criminals in all sorts of matters.
The Mayor, Jennie Durkan, a former US Attorney and a worthless one at that, refuses to let the cops do what they need to get done to restore law and order. WA Governor Inslee deploys National Guard troops to SEattle but denies them any arms (unless you count a shield and stick a weapon). NG troops were stationed BEHIND SPD and other law enforcement officers. They did not engage anyone.
Seattle city council declares that pepper spray and tasers now verbotten for SPD to use. See CHAZ shooting for those consequences.

Now- take all of those facts, take a city council with an avowed socialist bimbo Kshama Sawant, a feckless mayor and endless SJWs clamoring for power who will absolutely refuse to allow cops to enforce the law, and you get the above. Cops who cannot or will not do anything because the minute they break leather or deploy a baton, it is a use of force incidence that is scrutinized by the mob, the council, and the Feds. And who wants to have their lives and family ruined by five seconds on twitter?
Many of those cops are good men and women who want to enforce the law and clean up the city. They can't. They are trapped because of family issues, money, timing, whatever.
It is a terrible position to be in.

Posted by: secret squirrel, author of Three LTs of Joint Base Lear MacBeth, a comedic play in 3 acts! availabl at June 24, 2020 06:41 PM (xyImL)

381 And another thing - it's a big country. What do you suppose 60 people getting shot on a weekend in Chicago looks like when you're on the street? But we don't see that do we?

We're focusing on the most outrageous shit here, occurring in selected Democratic shitholes.

And extrapolating it to be "the whole country", which is precisely what the MEDIA and the assholes who are doing it WANT.

Don't.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:41 PM (TYUJ+)

382 360 306 >Didn't the joint chiefs of staff put out a big letter to the whole military saying they supported black libes mitter?

Got a source for that?
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:31 PM (L106N)

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Secretary of Defense announced a "diversity and inclusion" board. Since the military is already fully integrated and is probably the least racist organization in the world, the only purpose of this board appears to be to appease and listen to BLM.
Posted by: MAGA

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I saw it back after Floyd died but before the antifa riots joined forces with blm but now all I can find is the follow up letter which says they support the constitution blah blah

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 06:41 PM (rnk6i)

383 If Obama were still in office, I don't think anyone here would be demanding that he swoop in and do something about what is clearly a Lansing, Michigan issue. I semi-ironically use the term "local crime story".

Chill the hell out.

Posted by: parsimony at June 24, 2020 06:41 PM (X1xq4)

384 The last time the National Guard was Federalized was during the 1992 LA Riots under 'Joint Task Force - LA' consisting of the California National Guard, California based US Marine Corps units, and various tag-alongs.
Posted by: nevyan at June 24, 2020 06:36 PM (a7HML)

Gotcha. Thanks. (By the way, that was so thoroughly forgotten, that when I went to a class to learn about levels of mobilization, among other things - this was NEVER mentioned. In a class taught by DoD personnel.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:41 PM (ejsiI)

385 I've been in an L shaped ambush in rural Brazil. Paid my $5 and moved on. Pretty sure they were the local cops.

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2020 06:41 PM (RLx3l)

386 341 PDT had a very definitive statement about the Andrew Jackson Statue and the police stood up.

He does not have authority to tell the Lansing cops what to do.

This is our Country and WE should act like it.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2020 06:35 PM (z02nf)

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 06:41 PM (W54U5)

387 Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (6f16T)
**********
UMMMMMM no he doesn't !! Then the Appeals court will do it. Good God almighty you people can't even feel good abouut Gen Flynn being freed

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:42 PM (n/LcJ)

388 Would Biden be able to stop it? I doubt it. And having Biden win would be handing a 'win' to the crazy progressives that want this. It would be akin to Chamberlain's 'appeasement' of Nazi's and the left would simply become bolder going forward.
Posted by: Chuck

_______________

Oh I think it all stops dead in its tracks if Biden is elected, that's really what most of this is about, people pissed Trump is President.

That's the problem is that people might just want to give the "baby their bottle" and shut all of this up by getting rid of Trump.

Posted by: Blago at June 24, 2020 06:42 PM (gkdnV)

389 Many of those cops are good men and women who want to enforce the law and clean up the city. They can't. They are trapped because of family issues, money, timing, whatever.
It is a terrible position to be in.
Posted by: secret squirrel, author of Three LTs of Joint Base Lear MacBeth, a comedic play in 3 acts! availabl at June 24, 2020 06:41 PM (xyImL)

Yup.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:42 PM (85Gof)

390 363 So why not let the locals have a crack at dealing with this before you demand Trump send in the 82nd Airborne?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:27 PM (cfSRQ)

Sayin.

The United States does NOT have a unitary government.

And, though I have never set foot in MI (and need to visit Lansing at some point, when it is somewhat saner), from what I know of the place, the locals won't sit well with this.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:38 PM (ejsiI)

Uh, the cops were sitting right within view, doing a whole lot of nothing as a citizen was threatened with a rifle.

So, no.

Posted by: West at June 24, 2020 06:42 PM (I3X4g)

391 Citizen: "So given today's confirmation that Obama was the coup kingpin we already knew he was, this means a massive disaster or tragedy of some kind will happen within the next week, to suck all the air out of the room on this. You know it. I know it."

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This.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Our policies are failures causing misery to millions, so you must be punished at June 24, 2020 06:42 PM (NG6Iv)

392 I grew up in Lansing. That's the corner of Foster & Michigan Ave. A short walk from MSU campus.

I got out of that shithole of a town as soon as I could.

Posted by: weew at June 24, 2020 06:42 PM (gk7if)

393 Testing to see if comments broke on whole site or just newest post.

Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at June 24, 2020 06:42 PM (icI8A)

394 355 I agree with Ace here, it's a fine line, but Trump needs to make a decision, he needs to do something about this other than just tweeting. I'm not sure what that "something" is but right now we have chaos and it needs to be stopped.

But also we as citizens also have a responsibility to step up as well.
Posted by: spypeach at June 24, 2020 06:37 PM (Up/Jb)

I would be happy with major antifa blm prosecutions and someone, anyone, naming names about elites affiliation with antifa. We can be pretty sure Waters, Sherrod, and Elizabeth Warren (via Richard Cordray who was always Anti-American) are involved, but they aren't the breadmen here.

I asked earlier what happened to Joseph "Chepe Martin" Alcoff, who was allegedly going to trial in 2019. I can find no info on a trial. Did they drop it, did he plead a lesser offense, did he flee to France, did he Arkancide? In this case, no news is bad news, IMO.

Posted by: CN at June 24, 2020 06:42 PM (ONvIw)

395 you know how it is searching for anything that isn't approved for current truth...

these goofs are still making hay that Wesley Clark is really upset at the idea of using troops against peaceful citizens just trying to use their God given right to assemble.

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (rnk6i)

396 **********
UMMMMMM no he doesn't !! Then the Appeals court will do it. Good God almighty you people can't even feel good abouut Gen Flynn being freed

I will when he is actually "freed "

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (Zmnko)

397 Hitler was arrested for rabble-rousing in the 20s in a big way. It was in prison that he worked on his ideology and gained support.

Perhaps it is better to let themselves run themselves into a corner and not give them a big strong jack-booted response that they are desperate for. If Germany had done that in the 20s, maybe Naziism never picks up steam.

Posted by: Iftwilp at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (gqvXZ)

398 The locals in Lansing may not like this, but will they even see it? Look at the relatively low view count on YT. It won't be on the news. Maybe it makes Tucker. Will anyone who lives in Lansing even know this is happening?

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (uhPTO)

399 Better point is the people of big cities in this fkin mess voted yourselves into it, either live with it or vote yourselves out.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (6f16T)

400 "And where the fuck is Trump? Or Barr? There should be flying squads deployed throughout the US to start locking these fuckers up and making serious examples of them."

Wait, what? I don't even know where this took place. First I've heard of it. And already "where's Trump"?!

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (y5oH4)

401 Yeah! You only do that when people are eating each other in sports stadiums of flooded Louisiana cities!
Seriously,
does no one remember the 82nd Airborne being deployed and patrolling
the flooded streets of New Orleans post-Katrina???

Posted by: nevyan at June 24, 2020 06:39 PM (a7HML)

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Yes, better than you do.

Federal troops were sent because the governor of Louisiana requested them.

They did not show up on their own.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (cfSRQ)

402
If Trump hasn't gotten Lafayette Sq under control he isn't going to be helping Lansing.

Posted by: blaster at June 24, 2020 06:35 PM (ZfRYq)

Lafayette Square has been cleared. BLM's encampment has been destroyed and the DC National Guard has been activated to help the Parks Department protect monuments and statues. I am assuming all of this happened after Trump gave the mayor a chance to handle her business correctly.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (nAiE/)

403 388 Many of those cops are good men and women who want to enforce the law and clean up the city. They can't. They are trapped because of family issues, money, timing, whatever.
It is a terrible position to be in.
Posted by: secret squirrel, author of Three LTs of Joint Base Lear MacBeth, a comedic play in 3 acts! availabl at June 24, 2020 06:41 PM (xyImL)

Yup.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:42 PM (85Gof)

Welcome to life. We all live here.

Posted by: West at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (I3X4g)

404 Time to fire up the Star Chambers? If our duly elected "government" cannot or will not carry out the minimal duty of providing for public safety and application of our laws then I no longer acknowledge it's authority in any realm.

Posted by: I Have Questions at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (+v+zN)

405 334 OK Sponge.

It is too late to start shooting when you are being herded onto the trains.

It is too early to start shooting when you get a traffic ticket for 40 in 35 zone.

We are somewhere in between those two extremes, and somewhere between those two extremes is the proper time to start shooting. Have we reached it yet? I say no, not yet, but it draws closer by the day.

Which would you rather have, self appointed vigilantes fighting the leftists, or an organized, well regulated, militia, arresting Gretchen Whitmer for mass murder, and depriving the citizens of Michigan of their Constitutional Rights under color of law. Your choice.
Posted by: An Observation at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (tWK2i)

Can we have both?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (ifmtJ)

406 Notice the Prius slinking away

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2020 06:44 PM (RLx3l)

407 Are people wanting the same military who was ordered to take a knee with protesters to suddenly jump into action at the President's call? The same military that is top heavy with Obama-approved flag and general officers? The officer corps is decidedly left leaning.

When the the military openly defies a presidential order, and they will, that's when it's over for Trump. Half the country already blames him for Coronavirus, half the country is blaming him for the riots and the police. That's where we're at.

This is Kobiashi Maru, and it's not a computer simulation.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 24, 2020 06:44 PM (Bx+pw)

408 weren't the same posters calling for PDT to go into Seattle's CHUD ??

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:44 PM (n/LcJ)

409 353 This isn't going away even when Trump wins, we keep the senate, and regain the house.

I predict it will intensify. It's eventually going to come down to us individually. When are we going to get up off our asses and stop this?

It's that simple really.

Posted by: Sooner - White blue-eyed debil at June 24, 2020 06:36 PM (Fs5vw)

It will. But it will be an inverted V curve.

After the election Wyatt and his colleagues will have support. And so will we.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 06:44 PM (W54U5)

410 378 WUT? I thought we had reached "the end of history"!!???
Posted by: Caliban

Hah. That didn't age well did it?

Who was that retard? A Clintonista if I remember.

==========

some kennedy or was it fukuyama?

little could I have imagined when the berlin wall went down, we'd ... do what we did and now live in a weird new country.

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 06:44 PM (rnk6i)

411 This could be the Left flashing guns so that they can later ask for more gun control. I suspect that the Left wants a shoot out. These guys that are walking around with guns are stooges and probably the human sacrifices for the Bolsheviks. They could be taken out from 400 yds out without a real effort. Go to any good shooting range and there are many people who can hit that target. I hope that does not happen but these guys with the guns are just sitting ducks. And their handlers know it.

Posted by: Rich at June 24, 2020 06:45 PM (BATdn)

412 Wait, what? I don't even know where this took place. First I've heard of it. And already "where's Trump"?!

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (y5oH4)

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I know. A bunch of the Horde live not far from that spot and it's news to them.

People need to calm down.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:45 PM (cfSRQ)

413 366
The last time the National Guard was Federalized was during the 1992 LA
Riots under 'Joint Task Force - LA' consisting of the California
National Guard, California based US Marine Corps units, and various
tag-alongs.

Posted by: nevyan

***

Whoa there Big Shifter...we were not tag-a-longs.

Posted by: US Army I Corps Ft Lewis at June 24, 2020 06:38 PM (axyOa)
New Mexico National Guard was patrolling my neighborhood in New Orleans post Katrina. New York state police patrolled my subdivision and Champlain New York fire department was set up across the road.

Posted by: Javems at June 24, 2020 06:45 PM (ofIwF)

414 Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:42 PM

I absolutely jumped for joy when I heard it, but as Gen Flynn was on Seb Gorka's radio show I took the hint its just a little premature, at least I hope so.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:45 PM (6f16T)

415
That's the problem is that people might just want to give the "baby
their bottle" and shut all of this up by getting rid of Trump.

Pretty much how Hitler got into power.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 24, 2020 06:45 PM (oVJmc)

416 "I think the enduring shit show is why the market took a dump today. -- no it was a bunch of fake COVID new cases fake garbage"

covid cases made the headlines, but I think the race war crap is part of it. or, it cold be a real bubble, because much of the economy will be slower regardless of upcoming covid numbers. travel, restaurants, small biz barely back, stimulus can only go so far before it starts doing more harm than good (if it hasn't already)

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2020 06:45 PM (Cus5s)

417 The officer corps is decidedly left leaning.

THAT is a load of HORSESHIT.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:45 PM (85Gof)

418 Brandishing is a crime. Police watching someone brandish a weapon and doing nothing is a travesty.

The police are not there to defend people from criminals. The police are there to defend criminals from people. If the police won't act, people will.

Posted by: motionview at June 24, 2020 06:45 PM (pYQR/)

419 >>>Many of those cops are good men and women who want to enforce the law and clean up the city. They can't. They are trapped because of family issues, money, timing, whatever.

That's the case in my department. Mayor and Police Commissioner have tied our hands, released rioters and are prosecuting cops who tried to stop them.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:46 PM (bkUtD)

420 Though I commend Ace on a post completely devoid of references to Muh Nevertrump.

Posted by: parsimony at June 24, 2020 06:46 PM (X1xq4)

421 Many of those cops are good men and women who want to enforce the law and clean up the city. They can't. They are trapped because of family issues, money, timing, whatever.
It is a terrible position to be in.
Posted by: secret squirrel, author of Three LTs of Joint Base Lear MacBeth, a comedic play in 3 acts! availabl at June 24, 2020 06:41 PM (xyImL)

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Like I said earlier, it's a paycheck.

Posted by: MAGA at June 24, 2020 06:46 PM (f9lwT)

422 Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (Zmnko)
********
Keep Moving those Goalposts

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:46 PM (n/LcJ)

423 And, though I have never set foot in MI (and need to visit Lansing at some point, when it is somewhat saner), from what I know of the place, the locals won't sit well with this.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:38 PM (ejsiI)

It's not common enough for the locals to do anything about it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at June 24, 2020 06:46 PM (1g7ch)

424 Many of those cops are good men and women who want to enforce the law and clean up the city. They can't. They are trapped because of family issues, money, timing, whatever.[/i

They weren't drafted. They have a choice. They choose to side with a mayor that sides with the criminals.

Posted by: Well Stocked at June 24, 2020 06:46 PM (9K3Nr)

425 I do think it's possible that we truly are in the middle of a cultural revolution, as Rush called it, and the public is just not on the side of law and order or Republicans. Dems are not going to compromise with the GOP on anything when people favor them over the GOP by over 10 pts and Biden is up a whopping 14 points over Trump.

But President Trump still has to try and do the right thing and get a handle on these riots. It's human nature to see how far you can go when there is no pushback and there is no resistance to the protesters.

IMO, the President will regret the moment he listened to Jared Kushner and retreated to the bunker and went silent while cities burned. The country needed a leader at that moment. He had two options. Either put the hammer down as much as possible or meet with black leaders and try to calm the situation. Instead, he did neither.

The genie has been out of the bottle so long now, I don't know how he rectifies things and comes out ahead in the long run.

Posted by: WICapitolUnderSiege at June 24, 2020 06:46 PM (n+FWu)

426 421 Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2020 06:43 PM (Zmnko)
********
Keep Moving those Goalposts

That's uncalled for

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2020 06:46 PM (Zmnko)

427 I'm gonna go out on a limb here. Someone, somewhere, is going to light the fuse. I don't believe it's going to take much longer. Keep yer powder dry, folks.

Posted by: rustbucket at June 24, 2020 06:47 PM (XPvhq)

428 >>>After the election Wyatt and his colleagues will have support. And so will we.

Not locally, but likely nationally.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:47 PM (bkUtD)

429 Brandishing is a crime. Police watching someone brandish a weapon and doing nothing is a travesty

That wasn't just brandishing. It's assault with a deadly weapon.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at June 24, 2020 06:47 PM (F6tBH)

430 test

Posted by: grammie winger at June 24, 2020 06:47 PM (lwiT4)

431 Thanks to Hollywood, people think the federal government has an army of Jack Bowers ready to jump out of helicopters and stop street punks.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (y5oH4)

432 "400
If Trump hasn't gotten Lafayette Sq under control he isn't going to be helping Lansing.

Posted by: blaster at June 24, 2020 06:35 PM (ZfRYq)

Lafayette Square has been cleared. BLM's encampment has been destroyed and the DC National Guard has been activated to help the Parks Department protect monuments and statues. I am assuming all of this happened after Trump gave the mayor a chance to handle her business correctly."

Seems about right. Bowser apparently refused to do anything. But those National Guardsmen are unarmed because, as I gather, our vaunted DOD Secretary got the feelz about them having ammunition.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (puu6v)

433 173
...
Nothing happened. Everyone stayed calm. No news on that. It was an op. It failed.

The Philly PD was on the case, honestly they were. What was done was the best thing.

Okay? Let the mayors and the governors etc etc deal with their own messes.
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfPrivilege at June 24, 2020 06:14 PM (j9HX3)

Andthat is good policing.
South Philly...isn't that the Italian hyphen American area?

Posted by: Flyover at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (Rbu5d)

434 Their parents should hang their heads in shame.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (wiXsO)

435 427 Brandishing is a crime. Police watching someone brandish a weapon and doing nothing is a travesty

That wasn't just brandishing. It's assault with a deadly weapon.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at June 24, 2020 06:47 PM (F6tBH)

Yup

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (ifmtJ)

436 Has anyone mentioned this yet, where are the protest songs? This is not a movement until you have protest songs.

What we see is mayhem orchestrated by domestic terrorists and abetted by the entire Dem establishment. This is not grassroots from the bottom up action but instigated from the top and pushed down.

Posted by: Decaf at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (xarPm)

437 thefederalist.com/circuit court just ordered flynns criminal charges to be dropped but judge sullivan might escalate things anyway
Posted by: Skip

Doesn't matter. Once a higher court closes it, it's over.

Sullivan would have to start a prosecutors office out of whole-cloth. And yes, he tried that. And if failed.

Flynn's out, Sullivan is a wet dish-rag at this point.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (L6ZYH)

438 They weren't drafted. They have a choice. They choose to side with a mayor that sides with the criminals.
Posted by: Well Stocked at June 24, 2020 06:46 PM (9K3Nr)

BULLSHIT...Mayors and councils got elected around them. And I am sure your gonna support them and their families when they quit right? Pay for their bank payments and health insurance right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (85Gof)

439 Judge Sullivan has stayed all deadlines and the July 16, 2020 hearing date in the Flynn case. <<<<<

I only play a lawyer on the internet, so I need that explained to me of what it means.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (r+sAi)

440 These aren't just sculpted globs of concrete and marble these thugs are destroying, it's our sense of self. Who we are as a country. Where we've been. 200 years of hopes and dreams and aspirations are tied up in those monuments. If a governor or a sheriff or a mayor won't do their fucking job, then it's incumbent upon the next guy up the chain to do it for them.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 24, 2020 06:44 PM (3ufaJ)

Nah, this is a shit show at a 4 way intersection in Lansing. No one is getting shot. What does the South Side of Chicago look like come Friday Night thru Monday Morning?

But we're not sending in troops. No one is demanding Trump fix it, nao!

The country isn't going into the shitter just because these fucking retards organized a shitty skirmish line on some street in Lansing and the cops didn't land on them instantly.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (TYUJ+)

441 >This is Kobiashi Maru, and it's not a computer simulation.

Thanks for saying what I was trying to, but in a better way.

Shit, I know nerves are frayed and everyone is bitchy because of it. I also know that I'm not a regular poster here, but I've lurked for a very long time. I remember globular clusters. I used to look forward to CAC's astronomy posts (one of the few I guess). I know that NGU is Navy. I wasn't trying to shit on the military, other than the political generals who were probably all installed by the Lightbringer.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (L106N)

442 >>>South Philly...isn't that the Italian hyphen American area?

Yes, and I'm surprised they haven't started rioting yet.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:49 PM (bkUtD)

443 Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:45 PM (6f16T)
**********
SO He had a GAG Order on him & was on Gorka's & Rush's show GEEEEEEZ Wally I wonder why all of a sudden he was on 2 talk shows on the day the Appeals Court ordered Butthead to do his job

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:49 PM (n/LcJ)

444 Pretty much how Hitler got into power.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 24, 2020 06:45 PM (oVJmc)

And I don't put it past the citizenry. They want all the burning and looting to go away.

Posted by: CN at June 24, 2020 06:49 PM (ONvIw)

445 Quick question: Does anyone know for a fact that the perps haven't been apprehended?

I'm serious.

If Lansing Police Dept. wanted to keep this quiet and just picked them up, how would you know?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:49 PM (cfSRQ)

446

The issue is that the rifle was pointed, which changes the game.

But - and I hate to ruin everyone's panic session - simply carrying a rifle around on a public street is not a crime in Michigan.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Don't think anyone had a problem with fatty arbuckle open carrying (aside from it being a jackass thing to do) but in fact objecting to the felony assault with a deadly weapon in leveling the rifle with a finger on the trigger.

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 06:49 PM (SFOr6)

447
They weren't drafted. They have a choice. They choose to side with a mayor that sides with the criminals.
Posted by: Well Stocked

_______________

hat would happen if a cop arrested a guy pointing a rifle at someone and not letting them down a public road?

Are they really getting orders from mayors that they are not to protect people?

If so, why not go public with that?

I'm just not 100% on the "cops want to enforce the law but aren't being allowed"

Posted by: Blago at June 24, 2020 06:49 PM (gkdnV)

448 ********

Keep Moving those Goalposts

Seriously. What's wrong with you?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 24, 2020 06:49 PM (n4scg)

449 The thing is, this isn't what happens if the Dems win. If they win they shut this down. Rioters tried to create an autonomous zone in the super left mayor of Portland's neighborhood. He called in the cops and shut it down in an hour.

If Trump wins, that's when things get uglier.

Posted by: The Judge at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (GDjCl)

450 433 Has anyone mentioned this yet, where are the protest songs? This is not a movement until you have protest songs.

What we see is mayhem orchestrated by domestic terrorists and abetted by the entire Dem establishment. This is not grassroots from the bottom up action but instigated from the top and pushed down.
Posted by: Decaf at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (xarPm)

"We are the folk song army!
Every one of us, Cares!
We all hate poverty, war and injustice
Unlike the rest of you squares!"

Tom Lehrer.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (TYUJ+)

451 Department of Pedantic Corrections sends this:

Actually Hitler and his gang attempted an actual take-over of the Bavarian govt. during the putsch attempt, so it's not really accurate to say the authorities over-reacted by breaking up his outfit and sending a few to prison.

Things went far beyond street rabble-rousing or even the kind of Third World street shake-down attempt depicted in the posted video.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (El6T/)

452 Shit, I know nerves are frayed and everyone is bitchy because of it. I also know that I'm not a regular poster here, but I've lurked for a very long time. I remember globular clusters. I used to look forward to CAC's astronomy posts (one of the few I guess). I know that NGU is Navy. I wasn't trying to shit on the military, other than the political generals who were probably all installed by the Lightbringer.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (L106N)
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More posting, less lurking.

(Insomniac got a job, so, someone has to pick up the slack when it comes to encouraging people)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (WEBkv)

453 Kind of ironic how minuteman-LARPing "conservatives" spent all these years bragging about being the ones with the guns, and what they were going do if those weak snowflake commies ever tried anything with them.

Then the weak snowflake commies finally called their bluff and just went and started an armed revolution, seizing their territory, destroying their property, conquering all their institutions and attacking their people, using their own guns against them; and it turns out that the "muh guns!" conservatives aren't going to do shit about it except stand around whining helplessly about the outcome.

Maybe it wasn't the guns that were important so much as organization and community.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (0Uf+z)

454 The officer corps is decidedly left leaning.

______

THAT is a load of HORSESHIT.

____

Whatever you say, bro.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (Bx+pw)

455 "What happens when the next motorist stopped by the bandits has a gun, and decides that he, too, would like to brandish it?"

If the motorist is white, they'll RICO every white gun owning man in America (probably the women too) on b.s. charges and grab all the guns.

"Trump will not win reelection if his legacy is a country that looks like Mogadishu."

Two problems. 1) Someone, likely Jared Kushner, is advising Trump to stand back while the Democrats "implode on themselves", which is false and wrong strategy from every possible angle. Silence is acquiescence. That's why BLM has high approval ratings from the public. Tucker Carlson (who is the last man standing as far as any prominent figure defending the historic American nation, i.e. the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant one) pointed this out. No one prominent is pushing back against any one of BLM's premises so everyone assumes they are morally correct.

Jared Kushner also wants Trump not to do anything to jeopardize his mythical black voter outreach and the tsunami of votes that will never materialize (and never does or will for the GOP). The only blacks who like Trump like him because he promised to restore law and order, not gut it. Trump still is pandering to people who hate him and will never ever vote for him. Criminal Justice Reform let a whole lot of criminals out of jail and will cause real deaths, yet not one more vote for Trump.

2) Trump really is not in control of this government. We've seen this clearly throughout his tenure, the President in Name Only. If the courts aren't illegally undoing his actions, his own cabinet and Federal agencies are doing so. Trump could order the military to occupy these cities and restore order under the Insurrection Act, and the Pentagon would likely tell him no right to his face.

The problem is Trump has the rhetoric of a radical of the achievements of a moderate, which leaves him in no man's land: his enemies hate him even more for his words and his supporters wonder where the goods are. Trump blusters as if he is in total control when he obviously is not. Don't tweet you're going to send someone in to restore order to CHAZ when you won't be able to. Trump needs to level with his people, his voters, as to the gravity of the situation, and explain to them he'll do everything he can but this government is comically corrupt. Trump won because of "someone's doing the raping, Chris" and telling it like it is. He has to go back to that and keep to it.

Based on his speech in Tulsa and rhetoric recently, Trump seems to know he has to push back. But that two week period from the time he went to the burned church and the Tulsa rally was abysmal, and was rightfully perceived as his physical and rhetorical absence. He cannot do that, period. It's go time, and this is our survival at stake.

Oh and he needs to fire Jared Kushner. He needed to do that years ago.

Posted by: Ruled By Mercenaries at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (qzlMS)

456 125

How about the Governor of Michigan fixing this? It's her responsibility and this is happening in her front yard.

Posted by: bluebell at June 24, 2020 06:08 PM

She's too busy murdering grandmas by the hundreds in nursing homes.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (Do5/p)

457 Posted by: WICapitolUnderSiege at June 24, 2020 06:46 PM (n+FWu)

*honk*

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (uhPTO)

458
That's uncalled for

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2020 06:46 PM (Zmnko)
Just wait til he starts posting gibberish at you.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (n4scg)

459 732 Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 24, 2020 07:32 PM (HhXSr)

Amen, the FIB is too busy looking into garage door accessories to stop felony desecration of monuments.

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2020 06:51 PM (u4uQe)

460 blaster: "If Trump hasn't gotten Lafayette Sq under control he isn't going to be helping Lansing."

I think that's a fair and proper metric.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 24, 2020 06:51 PM (HhXSr)

461 Has anyone mentioned this yet, where are the protest songs? This is not a movement until you have protest songs.

What we see is mayhem orchestrated by domestic terrorists and abetted by the entire Dem establishment. This is not grassroots from the bottom up action but instigated from the top and pushed down.
Posted by: Decaf

Like I said...this era has no Neil Youngs. You either get rap or Taylor Swift.

Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2020 06:51 PM (Qf83p)

462 389 - that Lansing video was enraging...but for a few seconds I had a fleeting mental image of a high pitched zing and the head of the guy holding the gun exploding into a burst of red mist.

Posted by: vivi at June 24, 2020 06:51 PM (11H2y)

463 411 Wait, what? I don't even know where this took place. First I've heard of it. And already "where's Trump"?!

============

ok, this is a good counterpoint to our hysterics.

I would say that letting BLM/aFA tear down shit for 3 weeks before dusting off the old federal 'everything is a crime' law book to start threatening them with jail is a problem.

hundreds of folks are on tape committing every crime in the book. But ... Bubba Smollet gets first pick of the FBI's time. sad.

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 06:51 PM (rnk6i)

464 Like I said...this era has no Neil Youngs. You either get rap or Taylor Swift.
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2020 06:51 PM (Qf83p)

There's The Killers and Bruno Mars...

...it's not much, I know.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 06:51 PM (ifmtJ)

465 The godless heathens on the left are not a bit worried about the November election. They don't intend for that election to take place.

Posted by: Eromero at June 24, 2020 06:51 PM (XhWtx)

466 Well crap.

The comments upstairs are doing that thing again.

if only Uncle Ace knew what was happening.

Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2020 06:51 PM (Qf83p)

467 The officer corps is decidedly left leaning.

THAT is a load of HORSESHIT.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Yea, but something happens at general officer charm school. I think half of them draw short straws and are taken to a basement where they are filmed doing something heinous so they can be trusted to serve the democrats.

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (RLx3l)

468 Oh and Sabaton, they kick ass. Though, Swedish.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (ifmtJ)

469 333 >>But I'll say this about Masswatuchetts, they'd freak if ANYONE walked out on the streets with long guns. The State Mounties would be on that in a heartbeat.

Exactly my point. I'm seeing none of this in my state, heard nothing like this in MA. Michigan has a freak for a governor who has opened the door to this.

I've been driving around the country for the last few weeks and the really seeing no signs of this crap at all. Granted, I haven't driven through some of the hot spots but that is exactly what is happening, violence in isolated hot spots and not some nationwide uprising.

Nobody around me is getting tired of the violence cause there isn't any. So we want Trump to declare martial law or act under the insurrection act and somehow that is going to go over well in places where life is going as normal as it can under the Covid crap? Sure, that will go over bigly.

Chaz is already coming to and end in Seattle. This stuff will start to peter out everywhere because it was always fake outrage. The exact wrong move by Trump right now would be to do exactly what the left wants him to do, go over the top.

Don't interfere with your enemy when they are hurting themselves.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2020 06:34 PM (ZLI7S)

This is an excellent point and I think something all of us forget about. This is like news reporting of a flood.

If you watch the news, they will assure you City X is completely underwater in a flood. But indeed, the city is flooding - in areas adjacent to creeks and rivers, and it sucks to get around in - but is the ENTIRE city under water? No. They rarely are.

I drove from Pittsburgh to my TX home about three weeks ago, and it was surprising, and refreshing, to see people going about their business and their lives. And I drove starting in PA, crossed over OH into IN near Fort Wayne, before crossing IN diagonally to (mostly, except for about 1/2 a mile) avoid the People's Republic of IL, KY, MO, and OK. Yeah, yeah, I know, Red State America and mostly rural areas.

But you know something? Contrary to what is being sold by the media, not ALL of America is aflame right now. Yes, some big cities are, as we've seen. It's not stopping me from keeping an eye on things and making sure my EDC is well-oiled with a complement of rounds. I absolutely am concerned. But not all of America is going to hell, yet.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (ejsiI)

470 It's not the job of Trump or any President to maintain local law and
order when the appropriate authorities simply refuse to do their damn
job. The people of Lansing, MI, voted for this. Saving them from their
bad choices only ensures they'll keep making them.

Mike
I see there are a lot of people arguing this way. You are absolutely wrong about it not being the president's job:
10 U.S. Code 333:

The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by
any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to
suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful
combination, or conspiracy, if it--

(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the
United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is
deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in the
Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities of that
State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right, privilege, or
immunity, or to give that protection; or

(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.

In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to
have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the
Constitution.

Posted by: An Observation at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (tWK2i)

471 BULLSHIT...Mayors and councils got elected around them. And I am sure your gonna support them and their families when they quit right? Pay for their bank payments and health insurance right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (85Gof)

And that's bullshit - they'd never lift a fucking finger to support mine. I won't support theirs.

Being a cop ain't their damn birthright. Learn a trade. Swing a hammer.

Did it never occur to them that the mayors office is a revolving door - and in a blue city of assholes the mayor might eventually be a blue asshole ?

They chose. They chose to sit on their asses while thugs pointed guns - and they would've chose to bury anybody that shot the thugs.

They chose - poorly.

Posted by: Well Stocked at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (9K3Nr)

472 The officer corps is decidedly left leaning.

______

THAT is a load of HORSESHIT.

____

Whatever you say, bro.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (Bx+pw)

What I say is the truth.. I have lived it for the last 13 years.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (85Gof)

473 440 no they made it known they couldn't talk about the case and didn't. Seb said Gen Flynn was his immediate superior in ghe beginning of the Trump administration.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (6f16T)

474 The thing is, this isn't what happens if the Dems win. If they win they shut this down. <<<<<<

Nope. It gets worse. Much worse.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (r+sAi)

475 We need the Karens of America to get all punched in the mouth. Or their kids physically terrorized. Only then, maybe just maybe, they will understand. Till then, its other peoples problem and they will cowardly continue to virtue signal. It's the nonconfrontational way. The easy way.

Posted by: Floridachick at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (M3aP6)

476 Like I said...this era has no Neil Youngs. You either get rap or Taylor Swift.
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2020 06:51 PM (Qf83p)

There's The Killers and Bruno Mars...

...it's not much, I know.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Sabaton?

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (RLx3l)

477 So the woman in Buffalo who ran over the cops? There have been repeated protests that she should be released from custody because, "She hasn't been convicted of anything and she's a mother who should be with her family." These asshole protesters are regularly on the local news.

Well, she's still in custody and they just added an attempted murder charge. I expect she will plea deal out, but it's still nice to see.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (Wm5SB)

478 I'm not blaming Trump for incidents like Lansing. Responsibility for that is entirely with local law enforcement.

I'm not blaming the cop sitting in his car with his thumb up his ass, either. I have no doubt he's doing exactly what he's been told to do.

The thing is--it's not difficult to stop this kind of shit. A show of force is all it would take, and they'd run like hell.

What's so disturbing about this to me is that local governments are clearly complicit in the lawless behavior.

They're not trying but failing to stop it--they're supporting it.

If that continues, we'll eventually be in a state of war.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (sWM8x)

479 Kind of ironic how minuteman-LARPing "conservatives" spent all these years bragging about being the ones with the guns, and what they were going do if those weak snowflake commies ever tried anything with them.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo

If you're going to play this carpet-biting stuff, might as well as name names.

Oh, what's that? You won't?

Ok.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (L6ZYH)

480 Hey everybody The 5 time Banned Scoggdogg is back

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (n/LcJ)

481 No one prominent is pushing back against any one of BLM's premises so everyone assumes they are morally correct.

Counterpoint: Name one conservative thinking person sufficiently "prominent" to convince these bloodthirsty , terrorist maniacs that their operating premises are false?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (n4scg)

482 "405 Are people wanting the same military who was ordered to take a knee with protesters to suddenly jump into action at the President's call? The same military that is top heavy with Obama-approved flag and general officers? The officer corps is decidedly left leaning.

When the the military openly defies a presidential order, and they will, that's when it's over for Trump. Half the country already blames him for Coronavirus, half the country is blaming him for the riots and the police. That's where we're at.

This is Kobiashi Maru, and it's not a computer simulation."

I don't trust the military. At all. Everyone who suggested this is an attempted Color Revolution was pretty well on the mark but didn't mention the SHTF when the officers turned. Some of ours, even active, have given indication that's where they are.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (puu6v)

483 Don't think anyone had a problem with fatty arbuckle
open carrying (aside from it being a jackass thing to do) but in fact
objecting to the felony assault with a deadly weapon in leveling the
rifle with a finger on the trigger.

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 06:49 PM (SFOr6)

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Yes, I know, and everyone's fearless behind a keyboard.

The perps broke the law and the cops likely know who they were and where they live.

The smart play is to pick them up later, not cause a shootout on mainstreet.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (cfSRQ)

484 Seems about right. Bowser apparently refused to do
anything. But those National Guardsmen are unarmed because, as I gather,
our vaunted DOD Secretary got the feelz about them having ammunition.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (puu6v)

Esper needs to go as does every other person down the chain of command who is inclined to be a treasonous jackhole. If that leaves a load of master sergeants in charge of the armed forces, well they would probably do a way better job anyway.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (nAiE/)

485 Kind of ironic how minuteman-LARPing "conservatives" spent all these years bragging about being the ones with the guns, and what they were going do if those weak snowflake commies ever tried anything with them.

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Explain to me again why I am going to travel to a Democrat controlled urban sh*thole to help the Demcrats keep their Democrat controlled urban sh*thole from continuing down the path of sh*tholedom?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (Vjz25)

486 Time test #2 7:53

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (6f16T)

487 462 The officer corps is decidedly left leaning.

THAT is a load of HORSESHIT.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Yea, but something happens at general officer charm school. I think half of them draw short straws and are taken to a basement where they are filmed doing something heinous so they can be trusted to serve the democrats.
Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (RLx3l)

Oh, trust me, there are some in the officer corps that make me feel like I'm a damn Bircher.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (ejsiI)

488

those weak snowflake commies ever tried anything with them.

Then the weak snowflake commies finally called their bluff and just went and started an armed revolution, seizing their territory, destroying their property, conquering all their institutions and attacking their people, using their own guns against them; and it turns out that the "muh guns!" conservatives aren't going to do shit about it except stand around whining helplessly about the outcome.

Maybe it wasn't the guns that were important so much as organization and community.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo

Haven't seen them try this shit in Poteau, OK, so, no, they haven't really done anything to invade blue hellholes like Lansing just yet. Nice try, tho.

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (SFOr6)

489 Yea, but something happens at general officer charm school. I think half of them draw short straws and are taken to a basement where they are filmed doing something heinous so they can be trusted to serve the democrats.
Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (RLx3l)

Well first that idiot said Officer Corps. Now if your taking Flag Officers, it is still untrue, but a whole different discussion

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (85Gof)

490 I wish everyone would take it down a notch. There's so much angst in the comments that I can almost not masturbate while reading them.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (H5knJ)

491 Posted by: McLurkerson at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (Bx+pw)

What I say is the truth.. I have lived it for the last 13 years.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

==========

I mean come on...you folks can all imagine ROTC kids are deluged with non stop "muh gender queer BLM is america. viva illegals" lesson plans?

Your old military values are gone.

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (rnk6i)

492 Hey, people of Lansing, ever hear of Ken Rex McElroy? Skidmore Missouri?

Posted by: Bean Counteress of Rohan at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (2+j2N)

493 Conservatives used to gloat about how they would squash the Left in another Civil War.

Well, it turns out the liberals are a hell of a lot tougher than conservatives and would win that war.

Posted by: WICapitolUnderSiege at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (n+FWu)

494
Nope. It gets worse. Much worse.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (r+sAi)

Dems are the financiers of this movement and it's leadership. Alcoff, who seems to have vanished, was pictured with Sherrod and Maxine, and was known to meet with Cordray. They control it via the purse strings at this time.

Posted by: CN at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (ONvIw)

495 Has anyone mentioned this yet, where are the protest songs? This is not a movement until you have protest songs.

Gimme Some Money by Spinal Tap

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (D4w0N)

496 Don't worry Barr Durham will take care of this once he's done with the coup plotters. I mean we're getting those indictments this spring......Oh yeah. But hey, they cleared up the Bubba Noose incident.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (J70i0)

497 483 I wish everyone would take it down a notch. There's so much angst in the comments that I can almost not masturbate while reading them.

Agreed... We don't need anymore discord

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (Zmnko)

498 It's beginning to look like "ridin' shotgun" is no longer just a metaphor or abstraction.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (hKi6n)

499 Well, this post really brought out the loons.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (oVJmc)

500 Hogmartin wants me to point out that this took place four blocks from his house.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (Dc2NZ)

501 Look at all the shit the left has thrown at Trump and he is still standing. Trump cannot solve every problem by himself, he needs the Governors and Mayors to do their jobs.

And Joe Biden or whomever will be the acting POTUS will make this country great again? Dem POTUS, Speaker Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Schumer and America will look like a Freak Show and you will have a quality life like Havana, Cuba.....

Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (qM84C)

502 No one prominent is pushing back against any one of BLM's premises so everyone assumes they are morally correct.

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Also record gun sales. One of those is a better indicator than the other.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (Vjz25)

503 This may already be Obvious to others but exactly what does it take for this country to label the Democratic Party as a credible Terrorist Organization and put them on the list?

Posted by: MrObvious at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (3EHc7)

504 Posted by: An Observation at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (tWK2i)
*******
Posse Comitatus says hi

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (n/LcJ)

505 Troll is welcome to fuck himself, sideways.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (ifmtJ)

506 I was a Highwayman, along the woke roads I did ride.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (4thlk)

507 Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (L106N)

Not mad at you. Perhaps your wording was chosen poorly. We're good

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (85Gof)

508 Sabaton sounds like a love seat at Ikea.

Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (Qf83p)

509 FFS, y'all. Chill.
This is all a huge psyop to get someone on the right to pull a trigger. And it's only going to get worse through the election.
I'd say Trump understands that letting your enemy destroy themselves is best.
Don't worry, if he loses we'll have plenty of opportunity to change the ROE.

Posted by: RI Red at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (5qvy2)

510 463 Oh and Sabaton, they kick ass. Though, Swedish.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (ifmtJ)

The Swedes?

Give me some Opeth. And, oh yes, Meshuggah.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 06:56 PM (ejsiI)

511 Has anyone mentioned this yet, where are the protest songs? This is not a movement until you have protest songs.

Posted by: Decaf at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (xarPm)

Money for Nothing

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 24, 2020 06:56 PM (J70i0)

512 Not locally, but likely nationally.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 06:47 PM (bkUtD)

After the election we'll have 4.5 more years of Trump. There will pressure from above which will encourage and embolden support from below.
(local)

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 06:56 PM (W54U5)

513 hat would happen if a cop arrested a guy pointing a rifle at someone and not letting them down a public road?

Are they really getting orders from mayors that they are not to protect people?

If so, why not go public with that?

I'm just not 100% on the "cops want to enforce the law but aren't being allowed"
Posted by: Blago at June 24, 2020 06:49 PM (gkdnV)

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How's that even work? "I, as mayor, order you not to enforce the law you have sworn to uphold".

We had this exact same argument four years ago about why the "white hat" FBI agents never whistleblow or resign. Lots of people defended the "they have families, need income" argument.

Never mind that millions of people every year leave their employers for a variety of reasons.

Posted by: MAGA at June 24, 2020 06:56 PM (f9lwT)

514 Scroll down about two-thirds of the way on this page to get world Wuhan stats. The U.S. is doing pretty well -- better than almost all the Nato countries except Germany. Probably based on that U.S. university's stats that will include over-reporting U.S. rates and under-reporting e.g. Red Chinese.
https://www.covid-19canada.com/

Posted by: andycanuck at June 24, 2020 06:56 PM (TZi47)

515 503 FFS, y'all. Chill.
This is all a huge psyop to get someone on the right to pull a trigger. And it's only going to get worse through the election.

THIS.

Posted by: secret squirrel, author of Three LTs of Joint Base Lear MacBeth, a comedic play in 3 acts! availabl at June 24, 2020 06:56 PM (xyImL)

516 And based on the comments here from posters I recognize and generally agree with, the Democrat's chaos strategy is working just as planned.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 24, 2020 06:56 PM (hKi6n)

517 Has anyone mentioned this yet, where are the protest songs? This is not a movement until you have protest songs.

Posted by: Decaf at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (xarPm)

yeah they suck at protest songs...but then rap just don't cut it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:57 PM (85Gof)

518 What I say is the truth.. I have lived it for the last 13 years.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (85Gof)
_______
And I lived it for over 20.
Whatever you say.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 24, 2020 06:57 PM (Bx+pw)

519 Counterpoint: Name one conservative thinking person sufficiently "prominent" to convince these bloodthirsty , terrorist maniacs that their operating premises are false?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 24, 2020 06:53 PM (n4scg)

No one will convince antifa, but someone must convince the citizenry that the forces of law are still in charge and that BLM/Antifa is a dem org based on lies.

Posted by: CN at June 24, 2020 06:57 PM (ONvIw)

520 I wish everyone would take it down a notch. There's so much angst in the comments that I can almost not masturbate while reading them.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

Do you see what you have done to this poor man!

Bastards!

Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2020 06:57 PM (Qf83p)

521 483 I wish everyone would take it down a notch. There's so much angst in the comments that I can almost not masturbate while reading them.
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Gotta automate and go hands-free!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 24, 2020 06:57 PM (Dc2NZ)

522 Well, on the upside, Mrs D has me doing some home chores. I had to order a stud finder for some of it. I forgot to provide the address, but damn...they found me anyway.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 06:57 PM (axyOa)

523 In addition to projection, the Left's lies sometimes indicate their greatest fears. The bullshit about "right-wing extremists" is some of that fear. Notice these criminals are not running wild in the tonier areas where the white Left live. That's a fear that should be exploited.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 24, 2020 06:57 PM (puu6v)

524 They are willing to destroy this country to get Trump and a Kent State type incident would destroy his chance at re-election
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Why does anyone believe that?

What voters are sympathetic to the mob but not already against Trump?

Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2020 06:57 PM (kOpft)

525 483 I wish everyone would take it down a notch. There's so much angst in the comments that I can almost not masturbate while reading them.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (H5knJ)

Here, maybe this will help
https://www.instagram.com/elizabethhurley1/

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 06:57 PM (ifmtJ)

526 And I lived it for over 20.
Whatever you say.
Posted by: McLurkerson at June 24, 2020 06:57 PM (Bx+pw)

yeah? What's your rank and where did you serve?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:58 PM (85Gof)

527 497 This may already be Obvious to others but exactly what does it take for this country to label the Democratic Party as a credible Terrorist Organization and put them on the list?
Posted by: MrObvious at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (3EHc7)

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They've been a criminal organization for at least 15 years and a mob racket for 12 years. DoJ don't care.

Posted by: MAGA at June 24, 2020 06:58 PM (f9lwT)

528 FBI had 15 agents to investigate the noose, maybe they could track down guy breaking federal law on video by stopping traffic and pointing rifle at motorists. Federal law, federal agents ... easy peasy, no special military intervention.

I know nothing of these "flying squads", but that seems to be just the ticket. With some snipers poised 500 yards out, as the terrorists are removed from the streets (or just pick them up at their homes ... less drama)

But a few cars pull up, men with rifles get out, bull horn says "lay down your weapons ... turn around .. hands up ... you know the routine" would make a good news segment as a lesson to the others.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2020 06:58 PM (Cus5s)

529 That would be an excellent start. Start rounding up these people and charging them.

With a battery charger ?

BZZZT....ZZZZZZtttttttt.....

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2020 06:58 PM (arJlL)

530 I'm glad people on this site are waking up to the fact that Trump is losing and is the election would be held today, he would be slaughtered.

I think Ace knows this. He admitted in a past post that he was convinced Trump would not get re-elected until poll numbers started to really improve a few months ago, so I don't think he is ignoring the polls now.

People are going to blame Trump for what is happening. He is the incumbent, and its happening under him. Yelling that its the local officials fault isn't going to convince the low information voters. Trump tweeting "LAW AND ORDER!" doesn't help, it just makes him look weak and incompetent. Please spare me the 5-dimensional chess rationalizations.

What can Trump do? Firstly, he runs D.C. ultimately, not the mayor, so he needs to put a stop to the riots and statue tear downs in his own back yard. Secondly, he needs to have the Guard ready to enter hot spots and get on TV every day highlighting the riots and stating that the Guard is ready to go in as soon as he gets the OK from the Governor. Every night. ie "Im happy to work with Governor Inslee to put down the riots and end the lawlessness of the CHAZ/CHOP with the Guard. Please call his office and demand that he authorize the Guard to come in and help." Use a combination of charm and persuasion and bullying in an intelligent manner, not just tweet stupid things.

Imagine if a Bill Belichick Patriots team came from behind and barely beat the Jets in a game. Do you think he would sit on his hands and say "Hey, we won, so I must be a genius" or he would be pissed and breaking down film and benching players and doing everything to improve his team. Donald Trump came from behind and barely squeaked by Hillary Clinton, a woman with all of the corruption of a Clinton without any of the charm. He barely squeaked by the equivalent of the Jets, and yet people think hes winning and everything is great and they are fooling themselves.

Posted by: Keyser at June 24, 2020 06:58 PM (v8/5X)

531 502 Sabaton sounds like a love seat at Ikea.
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (Qf83p)
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I have the Dimmu Borgir lounger on my patio!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 24, 2020 06:58 PM (Dc2NZ)

532

Philadelphia Mayor should be removed.

For public safety.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 24, 2020 06:58 PM (aKsyK)

533 >More posting, less lurking.

Thanks, but sticking my head up out of the bunker only to get blasted by friendly fire from regulars isn't sounding like fun. I get why tensions are high. There are concern trolls, glowies, and griefers everywhere so I understand why people are easy to jump down my throat, but damn.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:58 PM (L106N)

534 FFS, y'all. Chill.
This is all a huge psyop to get someone on the right to pull a trigger. And it's only going to get worse through the election.
**********
AMEN Uncle Ben

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 06:59 PM (n/LcJ)

535 "Well, this post really brought out the loons." - Mr Pebbles

I resemble that remark!

Posted by: rhomboid at June 24, 2020 06:59 PM (El6T/)

536 I'm in the let-it-burn caucus. Trump is giving them rope - and they're hanging themselves pretty effectively. Wolverines, are you tired of this shit? Then stop electing tyrannical half-wits who couldn't manage a hot dog stand just because they're in your tribe and promise you shiny trinkets.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 24, 2020 06:59 PM (HmZuC)

537 wow, twitter must have broken something, they're actually showing ObamaGate as trending on the sidebar again.

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 06:59 PM (rnk6i)

538 Trump knows this is a trap and will not fall for it...

Trump employs the military and the left will go on a rampage to the point you will have a President Biden and a F**k Hole of a country.........

Posted by: James at June 24, 2020 06:59 PM (qM84C)

539 I would suspect the officer corp of the US are more often as not Leftists as everyy one has graduated from Leftist Seminaries maybe with the exception of the academys.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:59 PM (6f16T)

540 This was a Marine who served in 'Nam, is still a Marine, and is prepared to start killing again if necessary.

Posted by: Ruthless at June 24, 2020 06:19 PM (/uaBM)

I've shot at and been shot at by foreigners. I'm OK going shooting again.

Posted by: Archer at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (gmo/4)

541 Well, this post really brought out the loons." - Mr Pebbles

And they're not the fun loons

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (Zmnko)

542 I think I'm done.

Seriously, you want Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act for...what?

People break the law ALL THE TIME. Is every instance now Trump's to settle?

Read a police blotter sometime. Holy crap.

No one on this thread knows if the people in this video were arrested or not, but hey, let's light our hair on fire.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (cfSRQ)

543 502 Sabaton sounds like a love seat at Ikea.
Posted by: eleven at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (Qf83p)

I think it's a piece of armor. A boot or something.

Kick ass power metal. Midway is one of favorite songs by them.

https://youtu.be/GFa4jwFtK6w

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (ifmtJ)

544 In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to
have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the
Constitution.

Posted by: An Observation at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (tWK2i)

That's what I call a nuclear mic drop. Well done. If a sheriff or mayor or governor refuses to protect the rights of American citizens, it's up to the President to do so. PERIOD.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (3ufaJ)

If he does it, watch what happens.

It will be the last move of his presidency.

We'll have Owebama II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII for the rest of our fucking lives.

Let the lib shitholes burn themselves down. Point at them and remind everyone WHO DID THIS and WHO ALLOWED THIS.

Vote Dem, vote for pantifa. Period.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (Zz0t1)

545 The 42nd Street militia is coordinated and ready.
Comms are stable.
Sectors of responsibility are assigned.
Neighbors identified and trusted.
I wish I wasn't 29.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 06:33 PM (axyOa)

Lemme know if you all need help.

Posted by: trev006 at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (TA8VV)

546 Catch Thirty-Thr33

Same, I drove down to Kennedy Space Center and back NOVA twice in the last two months. No sign of this silliness, even the COVID crazy was gone once I cleared Fairfax Co (I avoided Richmond). Restaurants were closed, but that cleared up mid May.

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (RLx3l)

547 I'm glad Trump is a tough sonofabitch with a spine stronger than 360 million other Americans. Talk about the right guy for the right time.

Trump knows one thing above all - how to win and winning is more important than anything right now. Certain people sound like typical fair weather fans. Jumping on the team and wearing the colors when they win the World Series, but abandoning them when they lose a few games the following April.

Others have watched Trump from the *beginning* and dealt with all the same fucking pansy poll smoking naysayers hashing their mellow and spouting shit. We don't need your kind in an Election Year. We need to be united like the asshole Left is. This is where the rubber meets the road. Get some stones and stiffen the fuck up. Gonna be a bumpy ride.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (uEbPt)

548 Well, this post really brought out the loons.

No, I've been here for a while.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - fighting with a dying hard drive at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (SchxB)

549
I wish everyone would take it down a notch. There's so much angst in the
comments that I can almost not masturbate while reading them.

and

FFS, y'all. Chill.
This is all a huge psyop to get someone on the right to pull a trigger.

And this is where the memes collide.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (oVJmc)

550 Notice the Prius slinking away
Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2020 06:44 PM (RLx3l)
......

Ha ha. I saw that. "Eek, zzip zzip we're outa here!"

Posted by: wth at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (v0R5T)

551 For the "Left is just waiting for the right to do something" claimers, nothing we do will get good press. So your plan is to do nothing, maybe win an election, and still do nothing. You've just encapsulated the entire GOPe strategy for 25 years.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (J70i0)

552 Well, this post really brought out the loons." - Mr Pebbles

And they're not the fun loons
Posted by: It's me donna

They're not koo-Koo for cocoa puffs ?

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (arJlL)

553 What I say is the truth.. I have lived it for the last 13 years.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 06:52 PM (85Gof)

And people usually associate with kindred spirits.
There may be many you are not aware of.
I mean, who wants to piss off their dentist?

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (W54U5)

554
Why does anyone believe that?

What voters are sympathetic to the mob but not already against Trump?
Posted by: Methos at June 24, 2020 06:57 PM (kOpft)

Kent state was in 1970, Nixon won handily in 1972. In Ohio, Rhodes (R) lost, but regained the governorship 4 years later

Posted by: CN at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (ONvIw)

555 >Posted by: Nevergiveup

Thanks man

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (L106N)

556 I would suspect the officer corp of the US are more often as not Leftists as everyy one has graduated from Leftist Seminaries maybe with the exception of the academys.
Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:59 PM (6f16T)

You would be guessing wrong. You really think lefties on college campuses are sitting around smoking grass and then say, hey let's join the military? I think you might have seen 'Stripes" a few to many times

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (85Gof)

557 447 433 Has anyone mentioned this yet, where are the protest songs? This is not a movement until you have protest songs.

What we see is mayhem orchestrated by domestic terrorists and abetted by the entire Dem establishment. This is not grassroots from the bottom up action but instigated from the top and pushed down.
Posted by: Decaf at June 24, 2020 06:48 PM (xarPm)

"We are the folk song army!
Every one of us, Cares!
We all hate poverty, war and injustice
Unlike the rest of you squares!"

Tom Lehrer.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at June 24, 2020 06:50 PM (TYUJ+)

Folk songs? We have one!

If the father is brave, the son will be a hero.
If he's a reactionary, the son will be an asshole.
If you're a revolutionary, step forward and join us.
If you're not, get lost!
GET LOST!
WE'RE GONNA CHASE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING JOB!!!
KILL!!! KILL!!! KILL!!!

Posted by: Red Guards at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (ejsiI)

558 Let the lib shitholes burn themselves down. Point at them and remind everyone WHO DID THIS and WHO ALLOWED THIS.

-

Yep. Locals, I hate it's happening, but the ball is literally in your court.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (Vjz25)

559 540 I'm glad Trump is a tough sonofabitch with a spine stronger than 360 million other Americans. Talk about the right guy for the right time.

Trump knows one thing above all - how to win and winning is more important than anything right now. Certain people sound like typical fair weather fans. Jumping on the team and wearing the colors when they win the World Series, but abandoning them when they lose a few games the following April.

Others have watched Trump from the *beginning* and dealt with all the same fucking pansy poll smoking naysayers hashing their mellow and spouting shit. We don't need your kind in an Election Year. We need to be united like the asshole Left is. This is where the rubber meets the road. Get some stones and stiffen the fuck up. Gonna be a bumpy ride.
Posted by: ... at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (uEbPt)

Endorsed.

Can you imagine Jeb in the Oval Office now?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (ifmtJ)

560 Posted by: James at June 24, 2020 06:59 PM (qM84C)
********
ChickenHawk ! Posse Comitatus

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (n/LcJ)

561
No one will convince antifa, but someone must convince the citizenry
that the forces of law are still in charge and that BLM/Antifa is a dem
org based on lies.

I don't know. The public part is definitely based on lies for the rubes. George Floyd is not motivating this shit no matter how much they claim it.

This is an op with organization, funding and purpose.

This is not some grassroots, inexperienced outfit. There is structure and discipline here.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (n4scg)

562 The left is trying to get us Trump supporters to abandon him and sit out this election........Not going to happen !!

Soon they will be playing "Ohio" by CSNY on the news every night......

Posted by: James at June 24, 2020 07:02 PM (qM84C)

563

Yes, I know, and everyone's fearless behind a keyboard.

The perps broke the law and the cops likely know who they were and where they live.

The smart play is to pick them up later, not cause a shootout on mainstreet.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

It's just as reasonable to assume that Lansing law enforcement will do jack shit about this fucker. THat they will stay just as safely ensconced in their black and whites instead of rousting the guy and potentially getting shot. THat the DA would not want to prosecute a black man where no one was physically touched. All sorts of realistic scenarios, but letting him walk away makes everything we say pure speculation. ANd the guy on the bike just got a rifle pointed at his chest. For nothing. Sucks for him, I guess.

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 07:02 PM (SFOr6)

564 And in line with some morons here,
Razor says relax

https://youtu.be/_7NBPN-yd2U

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 07:02 PM (ifmtJ)

565 Philadelphia Mayor should be removed.
For public safety.

Reading from the French Revolution onward 'Public Safety ' is just a trap that a big foot is coming down on you for your own good.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 07:02 PM (6f16T)

566 Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (3ufaJ)
*******
I get a sense you are a Bad concern troll

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 07:02 PM (n/LcJ)

567 Here it is: The left is creating a movie. A rerun of the Iran hostage crisis. They've cast Trump in the role of Jimmy Carter. And Biden as Reagan. Biden is to come in as the hero and the terrorists will surrender and free the hostage, America.
I'm not saying that makes sense. They don't have to make sense. A good portion of the populace are witless thralls who've never had a thought in their head that wasn't placed there. To defeat them you have to break the plot of the "movie". I don't know how.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM (l6b3d)

568 I suppose the line in the sand will be actual shootings of non lefty normal folks. That will be the tipping point i think. Left on left won't do it. When the population does awaken they are well armed.

Posted by: USNtakim at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM (0OmEj)

569 Where's the Democrat mayor Andy Schor?
People of Lansing should be calling his office and flooding his Facebook page.

Posted by: redridinghood at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM (wiXsO)

570 da fuq? Have not heard anything about this

Posted by: A dude in MI at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM (/6GbT)

571 I would suspect the officer corp of the US are more often as not Leftists as everyy one has graduated from Leftist Seminaries maybe with the exception of the academys.
Posted by: Skip

At least half of the academy clowns were appointed by democrats.

Meceps, OCS, The Citadel, VMI were not.

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM (RLx3l)

572 Why do I get the sense that a lot of you are "4D
Chess" people? The kind who say Trump is brilliant for setting back and
letting blue cities burn but if he actually did send in troops you would
switch to saying Trump is brilliant for sending in troops and stopping
this madness.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (3ufaJ)

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So now he has to use the Army every time a crime is noted on Youtube where law enforcement doesn't respond fast enough?

Good lord, PEOPLE IN LANSING DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT.

What, does Trump have a Palantir lying around so he can instantly detect injustice and order the FBI or the Marines to fix it?

Hair status: Raging infermo

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM (cfSRQ)

573 ...and Fox has the head of BLM-NYC on to explain why violence is the answer right now..and his bright idea to have armed BLM members patrolling the streets..

Posted by: vivi at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM (11H2y)

574 This was common when I worked in various shitholes in West Africa. So Michigan is West Africa now. Isn't there some large institution of eduction in Lansing? Is that not the capital of that state? Zero fucking way I let someone who may or may not know how to use a weapon draw down on me.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 24, 2020 07:04 PM (xceTB)

575 While it doesn't deal with the issue of what the federal response should be doing, Michael Lind's Spectator piece, linked on RealClearPolitics, is an awesome analysis of what is happening. He has some economic insights into the riots that I've not seen previously. Would link it but don't use Little URL's.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 24, 2020 07:04 PM (puu6v)

576 532 I would suspect the officer corp of the US are more often as not Leftists as everyy one has graduated from Leftist Seminaries maybe with the exception of the academys.
Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 06:59 PM (6f16T)

Not this one. I maybe met one lib officer in my travels. Most are conservatives who love America- warts and all.

Posted by: secret squirrel, author of Three LTs of Joint Base Lear MacBeth, a play available on Amazon at June 24, 2020 07:04 PM (xyImL)

577 526 >More posting, less lurking.

Thanks, but sticking my head up out of the bunker only to get blasted by friendly fire from regulars isn't sounding like fun. I get why tensions are high. There are concern trolls, glowies, and griefers everywhere so I understand why people are easy to jump down my throat, but damn.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen

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I know, right?

I don't comment on here anymore so I don't read the comments anymore either, so I'm no longer a moron I guess.

BUT I feel like there's one guy here who thinks he's Ace's special hall monitor. What kind of welcome is that?

If I feel like breaking my no-commenting ways it's because I'm worked up, not because I feel the need to "troll" my favorite blog.

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 07:04 PM (rnk6i)

578 Lemme know if you all need help.

Posted by: trev006

Probably not...but appreciate the offer.
If this place get overrun, it's batshit crazy time.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 07:04 PM (axyOa)

579 >>>I would suspect the officer corp of the US are more often as not Leftists as everyy one has graduated from Leftist Seminaries maybe with the exception of the academys.

The academies? You mean like West Point, who recently graduated one Spenser Rapone, a sworn, open communist? The Army's booted him, but only after he drew attention to himself.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 24, 2020 07:04 PM (HmZuC)

580 And people usually associate with kindred spirits.
There may be many you are not aware of.
I mean, who wants to piss off their dentist?

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (W54U5)

Well no, you can usually figure things out if you serve with someone for more than a few weeks. And while I hate polls, ALL the polls show the military as a whole and the Officer Corps to a greater extent to be conservative. Not as much as you might want, but still 60% conservative leaning or there abouts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:04 PM (85Gof)

581 So how is this not actually worse in every respect than the Ahmaud Arbery case, except that the motorcyclist didn't try to grab the gun?

Posted by: scott at June 24, 2020 07:04 PM (cVX/D)

582 I don't see the problem. Blue state problems. Blue city problems. Let them eat each other.

Posted by: runninrebel at June 24, 2020 07:04 PM (mQoUp)

583 Oh man, a guy could make a fortune selling Troll-B-Gone around here.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 24, 2020 07:04 PM (Wm5SB)

584 Thanks, but sticking my head up out of the bunker only to get blasted by friendly fire from regulars isn't sounding like fun. I get why tensions are high. There are concern trolls, glowies, and griefers everywhere so I understand why people are easy to jump down my throat, but damn.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 24, 2020 06:58 PM (L106N)
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Well, not to worry, everyone is on edge, because every time we turn around, there's an escalation of some sort.

But, as someone rightly pointed out, the worst of the violence is happening in Democrat controlled areas.

So, it's their problem.

if it spills into GOP states and GOP governors are too spineless to take care of the problem, then it becomes everyone's issue and will have to be dealt with through extreme prejudice.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 24, 2020 07:04 PM (WEBkv)

585 323 Welp.
The 42nd Street militia is coordinated and ready.
Comms are stable.
Sectors of responsibility are assigned.
Neighbors identified and trusted.
I wish I wasn't 29.
===
I wish I was 29 again, not a flabby 50 with bifocals and diabetes. Heck of a way to go into "interesting times" yeah. But it sounds like you are doing good there, Diogenes.

I think I may give myself a birthday present this year. Something in 9mm or .410, maybe.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 24, 2020 07:05 PM (W+kMI)

586 "I'm just not 100% on the "cops want to enforce the law but aren't being allowed"

it seems more like ... "if you arrest a protester, you damn well do every move perfectly, or you may end up in prison for a hate crime or excessive force or whatever we can get you for". Holder and company were crippling PDs, unions keep PDs from firing bad cops (is my impression) ... making for a bad mix. Add in some Somalian diversity hires that shoot women in bathrobes ... and it is a mess.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2020 07:05 PM (Cus5s)

587 561 Here it is: The left is creating a movie. A rerun of the Iran hostage crisis. They've cast Trump in the role of Jimmy Carter. And Biden as Reagan. Biden is to come in as the hero and the terrorists will surrender and free the hostage, America.
I'm not saying that makes sense. They don't have to make sense. A good portion of the populace are witless thralls who've never had a thought in their head that wasn't placed there. To defeat them you have to break the plot of the "movie". I don't know how.
Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM (l6b3d)

In order to have a hostage crisis you have to have hostages. For the time being the MSM is pushing the idea that there's nothing going on. The time to come down hard would be if they switched to a narrative about the country falling into anarchy.

Posted by: Someguy at June 24, 2020 07:05 PM (Zm+LZ)

588 So now he has to use the Army every time a crime is noted on Youtube where law enforcement doesn't respond fast enough?

YASSSSS!!!

Posted by: HAIR!! ON !! FIRE!! COMMENTER!!! at June 24, 2020 07:05 PM (n4scg)

589 I agree its an op to get someone on the right to drop one of those fuckers. But enough is enough. What happens when no one shoots, the left will escalate as they have been doing. Next is for them to start killing whitey as they have promised. Then what? No ...its time now for PDT to end this bullshit.

Posted by: Pliney at June 24, 2020 07:05 PM (nzKWW)

590 YOU CAN'T FIGHT IN HERE! THIS IS THE WAR ROOM!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 24, 2020 07:05 PM (oVJmc)

591 And based on the comments here from posters I recognize and generally
agree with, the Democrat's chaos strategy is working just as planned.

No, it's not. The government has not clamped down and killed protestors. If they did the MSM would brand Trump a killer and say that 24/7 every day until the election. Even if the "protestor" was armed and shot first.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at June 24, 2020 07:05 PM (ZCiJZ)

592 How's that even work? "I, as mayor, order you not to enforce the law you have sworn to uphold".

We had this exact same argument four years ago about why the "white hat" FBI agents never whistleblow or resign. Lots of people defended the "they have families, need income" argument.

Never mind that millions of people every year leave their employers for a variety of reasons.

Posted by: MAGA
__________________

Exactly, I'm just not sure I buy it.

People tend to be "lazy" about their jobs and writing parking tickets to a compliant citizen is way "easier" than arresting an armed suspect. So the cops look the other way.

I'm not saying these mayors aren't worthless, but do you really believe they are telling some beat cop that they can't arrest someone for clearly endangering the public with a rifle? I'm not convinced.

Posted by: Blago at June 24, 2020 07:06 PM (gkdnV)

593 What the fuck.

Over.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 24, 2020 07:06 PM (6FeV1)

594
Yep. Locals, I hate it's happening, but the ball is literally in your court.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (Vjz25)

Yep. If you want change, you must start with the officials. Your elected officials have shown they have NO CARE for your safety. Tell them that's not acceptable.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 24, 2020 07:06 PM (Zz0t1)

595 I forgot firefox eats carriage returns here.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2020 07:06 PM (l6b3d)

596 NGU have they bought into the Leftism being preached to them from high school through college is the question. That officers are professional is not in question.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 07:06 PM (6f16T)

597 Don't make me yell for the Hall Monitor again.

Posted by: guy who always yells for the Hall Monitor at June 24, 2020 07:06 PM (v0R5T)

598 493 Hogmartin wants me to point out that this took place four blocks from his house.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 24, 2020 06:55 PM (Dc2NZ)

I lived near there (Clemens St) one summer to be closer to Sparrow. After one summer, I decided that driving from EL was worth it as I felt a bit isolated. Some say it's very close to MSU, but it may as well be on Mars, nobody wants to go to you, you had to go back to EL.

Posted by: CN at June 24, 2020 07:06 PM (ONvIw)

599 "Trump will not win re-election if ... "

O rly ?

This makin' everyone want to vote for Biden, huh ?

Posted by: the_sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 24, 2020 07:07 PM (0IMgo)

600 It's just as reasonable to assume that Lansing law
enforcement will do jack shit about this fucker. THat they will stay
just as safely ensconced in their black and whites instead of rousting
the guy and potentially getting shot. THat the DA would not want to
prosecute a black man where no one was physically touched. All sorts of
realistic scenarios, but letting him walk away makes everything we say
pure speculation. ANd the guy on the bike just got a rifle pointed at
his chest. For nothing. Sucks for him, I guess.

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 07:02 PM (SFOr6)

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Actually, that's completely *unreasonable* given even the locals never heard about this.

You actually don't even know if they let him walk away. He could have been arrested on the way to his car after putting his rifle in the trunk.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 07:07 PM (cfSRQ)

601 ...
The perps broke the law and the cops likely know who they were and where they live.

The smart play is to pick them up later, not cause a shootout on mainstreet.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

They'll be stars of a Bad Boys episode next year.
Cops have videos and CV's on every person there.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 07:07 PM (W54U5)

602 The people I know from Rural Michigan are not the kind of people some snot nose jerk is going to want to stop on a random armed roadblock.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 24, 2020 07:07 PM (WkTpz)

603 Honestly I think if there *were* a Bush in the White House right now they would be sending in the military. It's kind of their thing.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM (3ufaJ)

Getting wrecked because they don't know how to use troops is their thing. Bush refused to go after the Iranian leadership and they correctly judged him to be a skirt clinging thumbsucker. Trump iced Soleimani in response to some very mild provocations: now the Iranians know Americs has a President who will kill them and their families.

We're not there yet, but give it time. Trump's waiting for maximum chaos, like he did in Syria.

Posted by: trev006 at June 24, 2020 07:07 PM (TA8VV)

604 lol...I just saw the Dems are pretty much doing a virtual convention...cant let fingers get out in the public eye

Posted by: A dude in MI at June 24, 2020 07:07 PM (/6GbT)

605

And for what it's worth, Lloyd, I don't think Trump should do a damn thing.

I also agree that there are elements that are trying to get a right-side shooter amped up enough to go do something.

There are clear examples above, with the asslicks talking smack about how tough the 2A folks are. Whatever. There's a reason the mentally unstable vote Democrat and want to ban guns. THey can't handle them and project that instability on us. Fuck them too.

It's just frustrating seeing this shit in America, as we all are feeling.

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 07:07 PM (SFOr6)

606 479 "Explain to me again why I am going to travel to a Democrat controlled
urban sh*thole to help the Demcrats keep their Democrat controlled urban
sh*thole from continuing down the path of sh*tholedom?"
Because it's the fucking United States of America? That's your country, isn't it? The Right has become so used to retreating and giving ground that they can't can't even see any other way at this point. It's really sad.

Look, I get it. People have families and lives to protect. Who's going to stick their neck out when you know nobody's going to have your back?
So maybe this is an indictment, first and foremost, of the leadership and organization of the right which is at best nonexitent and at worst deliberately self-sabotaging. their pathetic performance in this latest episode could not make that any more clear.
Whatever the solution, though, this "not in my backyard; not my problem" way of thinking is a fucking loser mindset. Eventually there will be no more places to run.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 24, 2020 07:07 PM (0Uf+z)

607 O rly ?

This makin' everyone want to vote for Biden, huh ?

Posted by: the_sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 24, 2020 07:07 PM (0IMgo)
*********
Is Midol is short supply because of Kung Flu ?

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 24, 2020 07:08 PM (n/LcJ)

608
Can you imagine Jeb in the Oval Office now?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (ifmtJ)

"Awww, these aren't riots, they aren't even protests. They are acts of love, just as not showing a passport to a CBP official at the border is an act of love..."

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (ejsiI)

609 I think you might have seen 'Stripes" a few to many times

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:01 PM (85Gof)

I did 2-1/2 pushups! That's a fact, Jack!

Posted by: Pvt Winger at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (q1Pj5)

610 Lansing?

Good thing I have no intent to ever go to Lansing.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (hku12)

611 I think I may give myself a birthday present this year. Something in 9mm or .410, maybe.

Posted by: exdem13

I treated myself to a Hi Point 9545 last year...what a fantastic surprise! Remarkably inexpensive...reliable and accurate.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (axyOa)

612 You can find the ringleader's name - Paul Birdsong - easily enough online.

He won't be arrested. He's been previously anointed a "civil rights protest leader".

No Nth Dimensional Chess by the Lansing police here.

Posted by: Well Stocked at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (9K3Nr)

613 That officers do make it threw that shouldn't is proved in every war but I do think its exception not the rule.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (6f16T)

614 My theory...

The Democrats want Trump to step in.

So they are purposely stirring shit up in their states and daring him to send in military troops to make him look like a dictator.

They first tried it with COVID-19, deliberately murdering people in nursing homes to jack up the death totals and keep their lockdowns in place. They were daring Trump to take over and force them to open up again, to paint him as a dictator.

Now they are trying the same tactic with the riots and looting and statue toppling and CHAZ stuff.

You notice all these Democrat asshole Governors and mayors are telling their local law enforcement to stand down.

Governors have police and state police and national guard at their service. There is no fucking excuse for Whitmer to allow this shit. Or any Governor or Mayor to allow anything going on in their state or city. This is terrorist activity. You stop it with brutal force. Period. The fact that none of these Democrat assholes are lifting a finger to stop this tells me this is planned. It is planned to get Trump to act and then they can paint him as a dictator.

So yeah, I think Trump is doing the right thing. But I think he needs to come out and say, in so many words... hey, assholes, you have local police, state police and national guard... fix your own shit and fix it NOW. That is YOUR responsibility to the people of your state.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (Do5/p)

615 it seems more like ... "if you arrest a protester, you damn well do every move perfectly, or you may end up in prison for a hate crime or excessive force or whatever we can get you for". Holder and company were crippling PDs, unions keep PDs from firing bad cops (is my impression) ... making for a bad mix. Add in some Somalian diversity hires that shoot women in bathrobes ... and it is a mess.
Posted by: illiniwek

__________________

I understand that angle, but the above video is not a protest.

If the cops were just sitting there watching that unfold, they should be arrested.

As much as I hate blue state governors and mayors, I honestly don't believe they would have the balls to fire a cop or charge him for arresting someone for what transpired in that video.

Posted by: Blago at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (gkdnV)

616 Conservatives used to gloat about how they would squash the Left in another Civil War.

Well, it turns out the liberals are a hell of a lot tougher than conservatives and would win that war.

Posted by: WICapitolUnderSiege at June 24, 2020 06:54 PM (n+FWu)

well that is not true. They are more likely to threaten and destroy with no qualms or good reason, but if there were a Civil War 2, no way radical leftists would win. In fact no one would win as that would be the end of America. The experiment would be over and this generation would be forever known as the one that lost it.

But you are wrong when you think the left would win a war. They win now because the local government, media, academia, and even corporations bow to them and at the same time, lead them. But if there were a real civil war, as a tactical discussion, some man bun is not going to win it.

Posted by: Quint at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (hHxp2)

617 This is what is called "brandishing" and it is a crime that local LE needs to work on.

Not sure why a bunch of people think Trump needs to "do something" though.

Everyone knows the left is waiting for Trump's Kent State moment right?

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (JUOKG)

618 604 I think I may give myself a birthday present this year. Something in 9mm or .410, maybe.

Posted by: exdem13

I treated myself to a Hi Point 9545 last year...what a fantastic surprise! Remarkably inexpensive...reliable and accurate.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (axyOa)

Jah, the HiPoint carbines are pretty good

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (ifmtJ)

619 >>>Are they really getting orders from mayors that they are not to protect people?

If so, why not go public with that?

They aren't written orders, but the message has been fairly clear here; let the rioters riot.

As for going public? To whom? No local news station will touch it, and even nationally, who would listen?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 07:10 PM (bkUtD)

620 NGU have they bought into the Leftism being preached to them from high school through college is the question

Maybe some, But the majority of the people who VOLUNTARILY raise their hand and sign on the bottom line are very pro American and bend to the conservative side. Anyone who says the Officers Corps of the Military does not bend that way, is lying or never really served. Now as as I said that majority conservative is not 80-90% but closer to 60%. And of course it varies from poll to poll.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:10 PM (85Gof)

621 561 Here it is: The left is creating a movie. A rerun of the Iran hostage crisis. They've cast Trump in the role of Jimmy Carter. And Biden as Reagan. Biden is to come in as the hero and the terrorists will surrender and free the hostage, America.
I'm not saying that makes sense. They don't have to make sense. A good portion of the populace are witless thralls who've never had a thought in their head that wasn't placed there. To defeat them you have to break the plot of the "movie". I don't know how.
Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM (l6b3d)
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That's actually not a bad comparison.

Was watching vids of election night 80 on youtube recently and the exit polling showed the Iran Hostage Crisis really hurt Carter at the end. He was seen as weak and powerless and nearly all the undecideds broke for Reagan.

Posted by: WICapitolUnderSiege at June 24, 2020 07:10 PM (n+FWu)

622 Is this thing on?

Posted by: Eromero at June 24, 2020 07:10 PM (XhWtx)

623 What the hell are they doing to the motorists aside from pointing guns at them?
Robbing them?Demanding they take a knee to BLM?Spoiling Season 2 of The Boys?

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at June 24, 2020 07:10 PM (0V/8D)

624 "The smart play is to pick them up later, not cause a shootout on mainstreet.: lloyd

they would stand down if confronted by cops ... there would be no shoot out ... if it looked like a real threat ... pull up with more cop cars ... the thugs are just there because they feel they have permission, which they apparently do.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2020 07:10 PM (Cus5s)

625 well...I hope the DOJ has stopped their great noose hunt and started working on protecting our monuments and citizens.

It's a fair point to say trump can't drop the 82nd on every trouble spot in America, these are blue cities, etc.

But at the same time...this violence has been planned and organized by marxists, including international marxist organizations. If it wasn't Floyd, it'd be some other bullshit event to send up the flag.

Since the blue cities have a revolving door on their jails, looters get arrested, make bail, and go out and bash more heads, the best strategy is to use Fed laws (and we know there are a lot of them) to round up and at least decapitate the marxist movement.

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 07:10 PM (rnk6i)

626 Seriously, I admit to being an unabashed Razorfist fan but do check out his video he just put up on YouTube.

And I say that as a man who's ears are straining to hear the music.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 07:11 PM (ifmtJ)

627 *yawn*
*scribbles in Hot Cup of Joe comic book*

Posted by: wth at June 24, 2020 07:11 PM (v0R5T)

628 Jebus, we are overrun with concern trolls. Someone squeeze of a claymore or to.w

Posted by: Javems at June 24, 2020 07:11 PM (ofIwF)

629 I am trying to fight nice as my mom use to say to my sister and me.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 07:11 PM (6f16T)

630 Wyatt, thanks for your insider's info and perspective. Keep bringing them on specifics.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 24, 2020 07:11 PM (El6T/)

631 I had to order a stud finder for some of it.

Can I borrow that when you're done?

Posted by: Sandra Flook at June 24, 2020 07:12 PM (EgshT)

632 I did 2-1/2 pushups! That's a fact, Jack!
Posted by: Pvt Winger at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (q1Pj5)

Well LOL, if your a women and over 65, that is about the amout the amount of push ups you have to do to pass. G-D's honest truth

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:12 PM (85Gof)

633
Jah, the HiPoint carbines are pretty good

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo

But the ammo...oi!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 07:12 PM (axyOa)

634 608

As much as I hate blue state governors and mayors, I honestly don't believe they would have the balls to fire a cop or charge him for arresting someone for what transpired in that video.

Posted by: Blago at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM

You greatly underestimate my hand-picked Attorney Generals.

Posted by: George Soros at June 24, 2020 07:12 PM (Do5/p)

635 So, Whitmer put COVID seniors back in the nursing homes. Scores died.

The only ones in MI that seem to know this fact are the MI Morons.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at June 24, 2020 07:12 PM (ZCiJZ)

636 hello test

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 24, 2020 07:12 PM (EcqY2)

637 614 561 Here it is: The left is creating a movie. A rerun of the Iran hostage crisis. They've cast Trump in the role of Jimmy Carter. And Biden as Reagan. Biden is to come in as the hero and the terrorists will surrender and free the hostage, America.
I'm not saying that makes sense. They don't have to make sense. A good portion of the populace are witless thralls who've never had a thought in their head that wasn't placed there. To defeat them you have to break the plot of the "movie". I don't know how.
Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM (l6b3d)
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That's actually not a bad comparison.

Was watching vids of election night 80 on youtube recently and the exit polling showed the Iran Hostage Crisis really hurt Carter at the end. He was seen as weak and powerless and nearly all the undecideds broke for Reagan.
Posted by: WICapitolUnderSiege at June 24, 2020 07:10 PM (n+FWu)

FYI CNN doesn't have anything about these incidents. There's a blackout on riots etc.

Posted by: Someguy at June 24, 2020 07:12 PM (Zm+LZ)

638 It's just frustrating seeing this shit in America, as we all are feeling.

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 07:07 PM (SFOr6)

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Sure, but we also have to keep some perspective.

No one local has even *heard* about this, so to claim it has the tacit support of city, county and state officials and is proof that Michigan is now eligible for the Insurrection Act is utterly insane.

And the trolls just make everything worse.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 07:12 PM (cfSRQ)

639 I think I may give myself a birthday present this year. Something in 9mm or .410, maybe.

Posted by: exdem13

I treated myself to a Hi Point 9545 last year...what a fantastic surprise! Remarkably inexpensive...reliable and accurate.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM

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I bought a Springfield XD-S in .45acp for Father's Day.

Was going to buy it for Juneteenth but Academy Sports was mobbed at the gun counter that day.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 24, 2020 07:13 PM (JUOKG)

640 if it spills into GOP states and GOP governors are too spineless to take care of the problem, then it becomes everyone's issue and will have to be dealt with through extreme prejudice.

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who was the gov of Ohio who just executive ordered felon voting rights? She a GOP.

so yeah, the GOP ...as ace points out...probably doesn't even watch Fox news (tucker) or listen to Rush.

sigh.

Posted by: guest myspace user at June 24, 2020 07:13 PM (rnk6i)

641 Whatever the solution, though, this "not in my backyard; not my problem" way of thinking is a fucking loser mindset. Eventually there will be no more places to run.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 24, 2020 07:07 PM (0Uf+z)

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No, it's the way the US is designed to work. I know it's unpopular and the feds should do everything all the time for everybody, but government at the lowest level is how we're supposed to work for a very good reason.

Locals address this bullsh*t. The mayor/police/governor respond to the locals. Locals ramp up as necessary if necessary, with the understanding that they already let things go way too far and their sh*t is on the line.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 24, 2020 07:13 PM (Vjz25)

642 552 540 I'm glad Trump is a tough sonofabitch with a spine stronger than 360 million other Americans. Talk about the right guy for the right time.

Others have watched Trump from the *beginning* and dealt with all the same fucking pansy poll smoking naysayers hashing their mellow and spouting shit. We don't need your kind in an Election Year. We need to be united like the asshole Left is. This is where the rubber meets the road. Get some stones and stiffen the fuck up. Gonna be a bumpy ride.
Posted by: ... at June 24, 2020 07:00 PM (uEbPt)

Endorsed.

Can you imagine Jeb in the Oval Office now?
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Likewise endorsed.

I can't imagine Jeb in the Oval Office right now, because he would've gutlessly lost the election to the Hildabeast. Now, if SHE was in charge we'd have gotten into an actual shooting war sometime last year, or maybe the year before. Cities would still be on fire 'cause that's what happens when high explosive meets something combustible, and the usual mob of goblins and zombies would've run riot anyway.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 24, 2020 07:13 PM (W+kMI)

643 >>Why do I get the sense that a lot of you are "4D Chess" people? The kind who say Trump is brilliant for setting back and letting blue cities burn but if he actually did send in troops you would switch to saying Trump is brilliant for sending in troops and stopping this madness.

Since showing up you have called people who don't agree with you cucks and now 4D Chess people.

Are you planning on continuing to be an asshole before you leave?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2020 07:14 PM (ZLI7S)

644 You know what? Let them make their own little paradise. When food stops getting delivered to grocery stores, when electricity stops flowing, when
water is shut off, these people will have no reason to keep their "border."

Lather, rinse, repeat. The 0th rule of a revolutionary: set up at a defensible place, with resources to keep you going for a while. Those who don't are just another bunch of bandits.

And Trump can't do this. It has to come from the Governor, the Mayor, and various police forces.

Posted by: Gork at June 24, 2020 07:14 PM (VmQ66)

645 Jah, the HiPoint carbines are pretty good

I just got Bozo Conservative a Kel Tec at 9mm carbine for his half birthday. he was surprised to say the least. FYI... they only had three in stock the day I went shopping and all three were sold within two hours of opening.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at June 24, 2020 07:14 PM (ZCiJZ)

646 NGU thats what I hoped that conservatives were in the majority, that most to a man or woman would not fail to their duty.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 07:14 PM (6f16T)

647 >>>Wyatt, thanks for your insider's info and perspective. Keep bringing them on specifics.

The Soros-appointed DA arrested a high ranking supervisor for striking a toad who took his baton. Since then, most patrol cops have stopped writing tickets, making car stops, etc. They still answer radio calls, but everything else has stopped.

We should be overrun with jobs right now, and we're not. At all.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 07:14 PM (bkUtD)

648 The op-ed (WSJ?) written by the senior colonel who'd been an instructor at West Point and was stunned by what he found when visiting - all of this spurred I think by the Rapone case - was pretty jaw-dropping. Both as to course content and mindset, standards, etc. Never did find much of a discussion of it, to help weigh its validity. But it was pretty shocking.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 24, 2020 07:14 PM (El6T/)

649 I like how these mooks do this stuff in blue shithole locations. What not try this in, say, Waskom, Texas or Arab, Alabama? Because they would get a VERY different response.

Ace, I love you like a brother, so this is *types* *deletes* territory for me.

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at June 24, 2020 07:15 PM (VcFUs)

650 Are they really getting orders from mayors that they are not to protect people?

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But that democrat cop working under the democrat chief and democrat mayor in Minnesota did his knee thing on his own.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 24, 2020 07:15 PM (Vjz25)

651
The only ones in MI that seem to know this fact are the MI Morons.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at June 24, 2020 07:12 PM (ZCiJZ)

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Front page of the Detroit News on Saturday. Editorial about it today.

Mlive has picked it up as well.

It is known.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 07:15 PM (cfSRQ)

652
Are you planning on continuing to be an asshole before you leave?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2020 07:14 PM (ZLI7S)

The SHADOW KNOWS!!!!! Mwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 24, 2020 07:15 PM (oVJmc)

653 Doing my own research...apparently this happened last week? And the excuse is he's a "security guard" there to protect the protesters because they're feeling "threatened"

https://tinyurl.com/yag2bpze

Posted by: WTP at June 24, 2020 07:15 PM (HA2LH)

654 This all began back in 2008. Remember when there were Black Panthers brandishing weapons outside of a polling station in Philadelphia on Election Day?

There were NO consequences for them, not on the day they did it, and certainly not when Obama's regime could have punished them months later

There were also NO consequences for the Occupy weirdos who took over public places.

And NO consequences for the autonomous zone creeps.

How did we get here?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at June 24, 2020 07:15 PM (8/7u2)

655 Anybody see the interview with Wray on Fox?

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 24, 2020 07:16 PM (xPl2J)

656 My heart I DO TOO HAVE ONE OF MY OWN THAT IS NOT IN A JAR says ace is right.

Posted by: alexthechick

We used to dream of having a jar.

Posted by: TheLegionOfShortJokes at June 24, 2020 07:16 PM (FhXTo)

657 Trump will get to this after he builds the wall, stop being naive

Posted by: Dj3way at June 24, 2020 07:16 PM (b4hQE)

658 This is what is called "brandishing" and it is a crime that local LE needs to work on.

Not sure why a bunch of people think Trump needs to "do something" though.

Everyone knows the left is waiting for Trump's Kent State moment right?

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (JUOKG)
Not a lawyer, and really don't even want to get into a legal discussion. Fine if someone wants to respond, that is what all this typing is about lol. But people keep saying "brandishing". To me, pointing a rifle at someone's heart is way beyond brandishing, it is assault, a threat of murder ,and reason for someone to believe their life is in imminent danger. If someone stranger, some street goon pointed a rifle at me and threatened me, I know I would feel my life was in imminent danger.

I recall "brandishing" was more like showing you had a weapon in order to intimidate. Basically if you carried, even if your weapon was revealed to someone because you did not wear the right shirt, holster set up or whatever, that could be called brandishing. But pointing a rifle at someone and telling them they have to do what you say is way beyond brandishing.

Posted by: Quint at June 24, 2020 07:16 PM (hHxp2)

659

And the trolls just make everything worse.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

With that, we are entirely in agreement and shall part as friends once more.

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 07:16 PM (SFOr6)

660 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:10 PM (85Gof)

I want to believe that those in the Armed Forces that take the oath, actually "take" the oath and believe in it.
But sometimes it is hard.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -YOU are all in this together!- at June 24, 2020 07:17 PM (mMLSg)

661 Gotta say this for ace, he knows how to pull 'em in.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2020 07:17 PM (W54U5)

662 I always have to double check these because I live ~10 miles from Lansing IL.

Posted by: TheLegionOfShortJokes at June 24, 2020 07:17 PM (FhXTo)

663 NGU thats what I hoped that conservatives were in the majority, that most to a man or woman would not fail to their duty.
Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 07:14 PM (6f16T)

Most take their oath very seriously. When we called up all those nurses and DRs for this covid crap, many were not thrilled but they said to the man and women " OK fuck, that is what I pledged to do. When do I have to report" ...And the answer was usually tomorrow and damn they all made it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:17 PM (85Gof)

664 Heard a interview of McCarthy couple days ago that his opinion is the Democrats were working on having the public get saturated with Trump that they will turn to anyone to stop it.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 07:17 PM (6f16T)

665 Raise your hand if you really think the asshole brandishing the gun isn't about to be renditioned.

Every cop in Michigan knows who this prick is and so do the Feds.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 24, 2020 07:17 PM (z02nf)

666 >>>There were NO consequences for them, not on the day they did it, and certainly not when Obama's regime could have punished them months later

Caught on video committing crimes and Holder did nothing.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 07:17 PM (bkUtD)

667 What needs to happen to this is that a *bait* vehicle gets stopped by these dumb fucks. Then the "bait" vehicles buddies, standing off 200-400 yards unloads on the dumb fuckers stopping folks.

It would only take 2 or 3 guys with rifles that feel comfortable at that range to put and end to this stupid tactic...once word got around.

Posted by: Gman at June 24, 2020 07:18 PM (Xhndx)

668 Felony voting move was by GOP gov. of IA, not OH.

And Wyatt - sounds a *lot* like Atlanta PD at the moment?

And, I imagine, other major metros.

But while NYC has seen serious street crime sky-rocket (no pun intended, with the bizarre fireworks thing that's now, I guess, a "thing"), has Phila? Haven't seen anything about that.

When the cops step back in bad areas, seems the outcome is predictable. Baltimore. What's the sitrep on the kind of crime one expects to take off once cops lean backwards?

Posted by: rhomboid at June 24, 2020 07:18 PM (El6T/)

669 Was watching vids of election night 80 on youtube recently and the exit polling showed the Iran Hostage Crisis really hurt Carter at the end. He was seen as weak and powerless and nearly all the undecideds broke for Reagan.

Posted by: WICapitolUnderSiege at June 24, 2020 07:10 PM (n+FWu)

1) Carter did try an armed rescue of the hostages. It failed, and at least the Iranians didn't try slaughtering them to retaliate.

2) If Hollywood wizardry still worked, even at quarter effectiveness, then Trump would have lost 2016 and Episode IX would have made more money. They've lost the plot. And they will die screaming.

Posted by: trev006 at June 24, 2020 07:18 PM (TA8VV)

670 651
Gotta say this for ace, he knows how to pull 'em in.

Come for the HTML, stay for the shelf jokes.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (oVJmc)

671 Anyone see the news the GOP defended a seat in NY where they only won by 1000 votes in 2018?

This time around, GOP won by 25,000

Thats kind of a big deal.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Dialing a 900 Number To Talk to MAGA Babes at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (+dsLj)

672 If a conservative enclave of California, for example what's still GOP in Orange County, were to declare an autonomous zone, Newsome would crush it and the body county would be high. We know that is a reality, and it is what makes this particularly infuriating. Likewise, if those in CHOP decide they don't like what's happening and begin assaulting Antifa, we know the Seattle police suddenly will become law enforcement against again. Again, infuriating.

Eventually the basic civil rights of citizens have to be protected if local and state governments will not do it. Trump has decided to be incremental about this and looks weak. He will step it up if/when necessary, I think. Otherwise voters will go with the other weak horse.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (puu6v)

673 I want to believe that those in the Armed Forces that take the oath, actually "take" the oath and believe in it.
But sometimes it is hard.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -YOU are all in this together!- at June 24, 2020 07:17 PM (mMLSg)

Most do. They really do and they are very proud of that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (85Gof)

674

These people voted for this. President Trump has nothing to do with it.

Pretty sure I have typed "give them what they want good and hard" a time or two. Read it here even more.

Posted by: nip at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (cpS4u)

675 611 604 I think I may give myself a birthday present this year. Something in 9mm or .410, maybe.
Posted by: exdem13
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I treated myself to a Hi Point 9545 last year...what a fantastic surprise! Remarkably inexpensive...reliable and accurate.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2020 07:09 PM (axyOa)

Jah, the HiPoint carbines are pretty good
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Good to hear that, man, especially since Hi-Point is something I could buy new. I've seen some good reviews on the carbines from YouTube shooters.

I've been interested in the Judge line since February when I got to try one out. It's the right size, handles well, has an effective range for visually challenged me, and hopefully I can find one on sale.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (W+kMI)

676 >>>And Wyatt - sounds a *lot* like Atlanta PD at the moment?

Ten years ago, maybe. Not that department anymore. Newer cops are very woke and very big on doing the job and pleasing their idiot supervisors. We couldn't get ten people to call out right now.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (bkUtD)

677 they would stand down if confronted by cops ...
there would be no shoot out ... if it looked like a real threat ... pull
up with more cop cars ... the thugs are just there because they feel
they have permission, which they apparently do.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2020 07:10 PM (Cus5s)

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Why would you think that? They outgun the cops.

Are you saying the local police should a full-on Waco-style show of force?

I'm not confident that would work out well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 07:20 PM (cfSRQ)

678 You actually don't even know if they let him walk away. He could have been arrested on the way to his car after putting his rifle in the trunk.

We do know - thanks to the magic of the information superhighway and a really complex search algorithm of "Paul Birdsong Lansing".

The police are "investigating". This happened last week. Birdsong has a lawyer, Lucas Dillon. Lansing PD claims the officer didn't see the incident.

Took me five minutes to find that. Not that I'm talented - I just wanted to know the truth.

Posted by: Well Stocked at June 24, 2020 07:20 PM (9K3Nr)

679 At least half of the academy clowns were appointed by democrats.

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2020 07:03 PM

I was.

You think I vote that way?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2020 07:20 PM (rBtIz)

680 The left is winning this "civil war" because the GOP elected class refuses to grant the political and legal cover to the right team jack*ss does the left.
The fainting couch GOP will not be bothered to be bothered until the left has killed 10 or more million of us.
That is where we are at, you waant to know why this sh*t is out of control?
The left is not paying a price and the GOP refuses to allow a price to be levied.

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2020 07:20 PM (u4uQe)

681 I've been counting the moving vans around my neighborhood - NYC's Yorkville neighborhood. Today there were so many I had to take pix with my phone. Three just on the corner of York Avenue and 81st. Today's total: 23.
I'm going to send the pix of the trucks to my city councilperson and my state assemblyman...that idiot invited me to a downhill on...'environmental justice."

Posted by: vivi at June 24, 2020 07:20 PM (11H2y)

682

Lamont Cranston

You're either being a sperg-lord or a moby to insult people who are engaging in a fair debate. Either way, it is in fact "being an asshole."

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 07:20 PM (SFOr6)

683 Posted by: Quint at June 24, 2020 07:16 PM (hHxp2)

IANAL, but to me brandishing is making a visible threat that you are armed and capable of escalating to a forcible deadly response.

Pointing a presumably loaded deadly weapon directly at a person, goes way beyond that!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -YOU are all in this together!- at June 24, 2020 07:20 PM (mMLSg)

684 618 Seriously, I admit to being an unabashed Razorfist fan but do check out his video he just put up on YouTube.

And I say that as a man who's ears are straining to hear the music.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 24, 2020 07:11 PM (ifmtJ)

I (heart) Razorfist.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 24, 2020 07:21 PM (Dc2NZ)

685 The hardcover edition of Douglas Murray's Madness of Crowds is temporarily unavailable at Amazon. Make of that what you will...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 24, 2020 07:21 PM (PiwSw)

686 "640 I like how these mooks do this stuff in blue shithole locations. What not try this in, say, Waskom, Texas or Arab, Alabama? Because they would get a VERY different response.

Ace, I love you like a brother, so this is *types* *deletes* territory for me.

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at June 24, 2020 07:15 PM (VcFUs) "

This.

Or anywhere in Wisconsin, outside the cities.

Posted by: the_sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 24, 2020 07:21 PM (0IMgo)

687 Not sure why a bunch of people think Trump needs to "do something" though.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS)

Agree. Unless we at war officially.

Shouldn't the Lansing mayor and Guv Whitmer DO something? This does not fall under Trump's bailiwick at this point.

Posted by: lizabth at June 24, 2020 07:21 PM (L3Rsz)

688 Ten years ago, maybe. Not that department anymore. Newer cops are very woke and very big on doing the job and pleasing their idiot supervisors. We couldn't get ten people to call out right now.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (bkUtD)

I treat a lot of Police and their families in my town...they are not going to walk off, but the word is out: Don't arrest anyone and stay safe at all costs. Pick up your check and benefits and go home at night

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:21 PM (85Gof)

689 It's being minimally observant.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at June 24, 2020 07:18 PM (3ufaJ)

No, you're clearly an asshole.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 24, 2020 07:21 PM (hku12)

690 665

These people voted for this. President Trump has nothing to do with it.

Pretty sure I have typed "give them what they want good and hard" a time or two. Read it here even more.

Posted by: nip at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (cpS4u)

By analogy, if Harvard burned to the ground I wouldn't be running in with a bucket. We need to siege these places anyways so why exactly do we want to play Captain-save-a-ho over something nobody knows about?

Posted by: Someguy at June 24, 2020 07:21 PM (Zm+LZ)

691 669 Posted by: Well Stocked at June 24, 2020 07:20 PM (9K3Nr)

Correct another case of "prosecutorial discretion" as trademarked by Geo Soros....
see democrats can let violent felons walk away no charges ever filed, but democrat judges can try to force prosecution on non crimes.
Had enough yet?

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2020 07:21 PM (u4uQe)

692 >>I didn't realize 4D chess people was a slur. Where do I report for reeducation? And no, showing people that they're exhibiting the exact same behavior that they condemn in others is not "being an asshole." It's being minimally observant.

Well then you haven't been paying attention for the last 3 years. Why did you quotations marks around 4D Chess people?

And cucks most definitely is a slur, particularly around here where it gets used as a slur pretty much on a daily basis. That alone qualifies as asshole.

Be more observant. Be better.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 24, 2020 07:21 PM (ZLI7S)

693 >>>Well, it turns out the liberals are a hell of a lot tougher than conservatives and would win that war.

What do you base that on? When have liberals ever been tough or even learned to be tough? There's never any consequences for their bad behavior, even when it becomes violent. Toughness is overcoming challenges. When have liberals ever been truly challenged about anything?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 24, 2020 07:22 PM (HmZuC)

694 Slightly O/T, but somehow the loaf of bread I bought this morning didn't make it into the grocery bag.

Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2020 07:22 PM (Tr/Ej)

695 Nevergiveup: "Not as much as you might want, but still 60% conservative leaning or there abouts"

That's a lower number than I'd expected. Now "conservative" and "liberal" are relative terms, but I tend to group "conservative" with "law and order," so I don't like that ratio you observed.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 24, 2020 07:22 PM (HhXSr)

696 1) Carter did try an armed rescue of the hostages.
It failed, and at least the Iranians didn't try slaughtering them to
retaliate.

Posted by: trev006 at June 24, 2020 07:18 PM (TA8VV)

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Operation Eagle Claw.

I was just old enough to remember it when it happened - and totally demoralized by it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 07:22 PM (cfSRQ)

697 "I honestly don't believe they would have the balls
to fire a cop or charge him for arresting someone for what transpired in
that video." Posted by: Blago

true, in this case it does seem they are told to "give room to riot" ... by the mayor of maybe the police chief. I didn't see the whole video ... if cops just watch the guy point the gun, that is bad, as is turning over part of a city to the thugs. Thugs must have been given permission ... cops should resign, but it is a paycheck, early retirement, nice bennies.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2020 07:23 PM (Cus5s)

698 >And where the fuck is Trump? Or Barr? There should be flying squads deployed throughout the US to start locking these fuckers up and making serious examples of them.

Nope. Now's the time for Federalism. In November there will be a referendum on the Republic. The People need to see what they are signing up for.

What I would like to see happen is for the FBI to quietly arrest and throw the book at every single 'protester' who through a rock at a member of law enforcement.

I'm all for quiet effective acts, but if you're Democratic controlled local is starting to look 3rd world, well then best consider that in the voting booth because this ones for all the marbles.

Posted by: hevel varik at June 24, 2020 07:23 PM (quVbM)

699 Although I have to add...I do deeply understand the feeling that someone must do something here. This is beyond belief. But if Whitmer wants her state run by warlords, that's the way it's going to be.

Posted by: lizabth at June 24, 2020 07:23 PM (L3Rsz)

700

Slightly O/T, but somehow the loaf of bread I bought this morning didn't make it into the grocery bag.
Posted by: Weasel

BURN THE MOTHERFUCKER TO THE GROUND!!!!11!!11!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: imp at June 24, 2020 07:23 PM (SFOr6)

701 679 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:21 PM (85Gof)

Oh I am pretty certain that the Jackson Mississippi cops did not get that memo, or you know I got questioned for "driving while white."
The GOP voter is still subject to the law champ, just the jack*ss club has the Olly Olly Oxenfree card.

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2020 07:23 PM (u4uQe)

702 Looks like Lansing hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1993.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 24, 2020 07:23 PM (Vjz25)

703 NGU thats what I hoped that conservatives were in the majority, that most to a man or woman would not fail to their duty.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2020 07:14 PM (6f16T)

Most take their oath very seriously. When we called up all those
nurses and DRs for this covid crap, many were not thrilled but they said
to the man and women " OK fuck, that is what I pledged to do. When do I
have to report" ...And the answer was usually tomorrow and damn they
all made it.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:17 PM

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Same thing for Desert Shield and Storm. I processed literally thousands of Doctors, Nurses and Corpsmen onto Active Duty from Reserves.

95+ said sure OK, that was the deal I signed up for. Had a few that we had to send people out to round them up though. And some actually refused to show.

We didn't do anything to them, BUPERS told us to discharge them and give them all RE-4's not eligible to reenlist if they were enlisted and Officers were issued an Honorable 214 with a letter that basically said....you are done.

I signed quite a few DD 214's with the members signature "not available".

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 24, 2020 07:24 PM (JUOKG)

704 test test

Posted by: azalea city at June 24, 2020 07:24 PM (WX+x0)

705 691 Posted by: lizabth at June 24, 2020 07:23 PM (L3Rsz)

She does not want *her* state ran by random warlords....she wants her state ran by deniable asset communist operatives.

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2020 07:25 PM (u4uQe)

706 Are we saying that people in Michigan generally and Lansing specifically didn't know about this? Do they now? Have they responded? Curious is all.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 24, 2020 07:25 PM (xceTB)

707 "where the fuck is Trump"

I've only been saying this since, what, April.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at June 24, 2020 07:25 PM (ykYG2)

708 We do know - thanks to the magic of the information
superhighway and a really complex search algorithm of "Paul Birdsong
Lansing".

The police are "investigating". This happened last week. Birdsong
has a lawyer, Lucas Dillon. Lansing PD claims the officer didn't see
the incident.

Took me five minutes to find that. Not that I'm talented - I just wanted to know the truth.

Posted by: Well Stocked at June 24, 2020 07:20 PM (9K3Nr)

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Good for you!

And now that it's getting more publicity, I'm sure they'll get more questions. Good thing they posted the video to help the LPD investigate.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 07:25 PM (cfSRQ)

709 They kept Trump spinning with RUSSIA for 2.5 years while they planned this. But no, the Left doesn't plan. Things like COVID and these riots just happen to fall in their lap in an election year.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2020 07:25 PM (uEbPt)

710 694 Looks like Lansing hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1993.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 24, 2020 07:23 PM (Vjz25)

It was a nicer place prior to the fall of the auto industry.

Posted by: CN at June 24, 2020 07:25 PM (ONvIw)

711 Sorry but ace is right here. The "let them beclown themselves" theory doesn't work when most voters aren't seeing the raw footage, they're getting the distorted view through the prism of legacy media. "It's only happening in blue cities" - yes, but Americans, because we actually aren't monsters,because we actually have empathy, care about those people. I mean, I kinda don't - but normal good people do.

And if it takes martial law - so what? The people who will call Trump a tyrant for that call him a tyrant for drinking water with two hands. We have no go zones now - that's something that is supposed to happen in fucking failed states, not the US. People are afraid, and when they're afraid, they want to see a strong hand on the tiller.

Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at June 24, 2020 07:25 PM (icI8A)

712 662 Anyone see the news the GOP defended a seat in NY where they only won by 1000 votes in 2018?

This time around, GOP won by 25,000

Thats kind of a big deal.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Dialing a 900 Number To Talk to MAGA Babes at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (+dsLj)

That's my district. in 2018 the R on the ballot was under indictment for insider trading and guilty as hell. He still won by 0.3%. In 2016 Trump beat Hillary by 18% so that may be a better benchmark. Yesterday, in the election to fill the seat vacated by Mr. Insider Trading, the Republican won by 39%. Extrapolate as you see fit, but the folks I saw voting weren't demoralized, they were happy and cracking jokes.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 24, 2020 07:25 PM (Wm5SB)

713 685 Slightly O/T, but somehow the loaf of bread I bought this morning didn't make it into the grocery bag.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2020 07:22 PM (Tr/Ej)

This is Julys disaster. You buy bread, but it disappears by the time you get home. So you run to the store to buy more bread, and that disappears too. The entire mo th is just endless trips to the store to buy bread. And trump stands by and does nothing. Congress passes a $3 trillion bread stimulus bill.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 24, 2020 07:25 PM (dNzKv)

714 nood !

Posted by: the_sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 24, 2020 07:26 PM (0IMgo)

715 The problem with the 1980 election scenario? Biden ain't Reagan. RR was an eloquent speaker. Biden can't complete a sentence. Furthermore, there was no energy for Carter - ever.

Posted by: Mike at June 24, 2020 07:26 PM (WWn8/)

716 By analogy, if Harvard burned to the ground I wouldn't be running in with a bucket. We need to siege these places anyways so why exactly do we want to play Captain-save-a-ho over something nobody knows about?
Posted by: Someguy at June 24, 2020 07:21 PM

If Harvard were on fire, I'd rush in with a bucket of beer, drink it, and let nature take its course on the ashes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2020 07:26 PM (rBtIz)

717 This time around, GOP won by 25,000

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SEND IN THE NATIONAL GUARD!!!

That's how this works, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Wakanda 4 Evah at June 24, 2020 07:26 PM (Vjz25)

718
I just got Bozo Conservative a Kel Tec at 9mm carbine for his half birthday. he was surprised to say the least. FYI... they only had three in stock the day I went shopping and all three were sold within two hours of opening.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at June 24, 2020 07:14 PM (ZCiJZ)
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I hope he was suitably "grateful"!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at June 24, 2020 07:26 PM (Dc2NZ)

719 Are we saying that people in Michigan generally and
Lansing specifically didn't know about this? Do they now? Have they
responded? Curious is all.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 24, 2020 07:25 PM (xceTB)

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I think most just found out about it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 24, 2020 07:26 PM (cfSRQ)

720 Anyone remember the Democrat Convention of 1968? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Democratic_National_Convention)

It was in Chicago. It turned out to be Hubert Humphrey (LBJ did not seek a second term) versus Richard Nixon. Nixon won that year and won in a landslide four years later.

Posted by: GPHANNER at June 24, 2020 07:27 PM (XwMGP)

721 >>>I treat a lot of Police and their families in my town...they are not going to walk off, but the word is out: Don't arrest anyone and stay safe at all costs. Pick up your check and benefits and go home at night

I'm effectively Peter Gibbons from Office Space. I work just hard enough to not get hassled.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 07:27 PM (bkUtD)

722 701 Sorry but ace is right here. The "let them beclown themselves" theory doesn't work when most voters aren't seeing the raw footage, they're getting the distorted view through the prism of legacy media.
Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at June 24, 2020 07:25 PM (icI8A)

Take a look at the prism. There are no riots. This didn't happen. They aren't pulling down statues of George Washington. Acting now would be equivalent to bringing down the hammer for no apparent reason. Things need to heat up a little before action becomes the politically correct move.

Posted by: Someguy at June 24, 2020 07:27 PM (Zm+LZ)

723 WICapitolUnderSiege
Your concern is
[x] noted[ ] not noted.

Posted by: An Observation at June 24, 2020 07:27 PM (tWK2i)

724
Oh dear. Ann Althouse is thinking of leaving Madison.

Whazzamatta, toots? Did you just learn that the rioters weren't just some of your cowering students and didn't give a flip about Constitutional Law, or the Constitution, or law? You only now found out that they meant just what they said?

Sympathy level: zero point zero.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2020 07:27 PM (mht8P)

725 In case you missed it, NOOD

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 24, 2020 07:28 PM (bkUtD)

726 Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 24, 2020 07:24 PM (JUOKG)

Yup. Exactly. When this shit started the decision to MOB them came before the Presidential MOB order so we first put people on ADT Orders. And they asked me to write them and I had the list. So as I was writing the Orders and Putting the people on them, I'd be calling the names I recognized and told them pack their bags. Then we had to take a whole bunch of them off those Orders to put them on MOB Orders What a cluster fuck for them and PSD

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 24, 2020 07:28 PM (85Gof)

727 sniper to the brandisher's heart. you are free to carry a long gun, but not to point is at someone. that is fatal threat. and yet, all the good corporate shills sing the George Floyd song. No he should not have died. But his life style choices brought him where he is.

Posted by: projection on steroids at June 24, 2020 07:29 PM (V9NdA)

728 Razorfist just uploaded a great video on this very topic. He says Relax, America. https://tinyurl.com/yad3rytd

Posted by: fly gal at June 24, 2020 07:29 PM (6CtMt)

729 So, is it 'whiff of grapeshot' time yet?

Just ask'n for a friend.

Posted by: CPT. Charles at June 24, 2020 07:29 PM (W+kMI)

730 662 Anyone see the news the GOP defended a seat in NY where they only won by 1000 votes in 2018?

This time around, GOP won by 25,000

Thats kind of a big deal.
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That's a good story, and it gave me another reason to hold still and maintain the stiff upper lip, even if I do feel like a Concealed Carry birthday. The Blue State nincompoops-in-chief have frightened and alienated a lot of their constituents who are afraid for their property and their lives, and their loved ones' lives. Come November there could be a stunner turnout for Trump. Yeah, there'd be riots, but there would be riots win or lose. Be worth it too for the newsies' reactions.

Posted by: exdem13 at June 24, 2020 07:29 PM (W+kMI)

731 "Why would you think that? They outgun the cops.Are you saying the local police should a full-on Waco-style show of force?I'm not confident that would work out well. Postedby Lloyd

this is nothing like Waco ... this is a few guys brandishing weapons ... stopping traffic in the open. Or was there a whole mob back there with weapons? Still not like Waco.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2020 07:29 PM (Cus5s)

732 Gotta start dropping these assholes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 24, 2020 07:29 PM (9Om/r)

733 717 Razorfist just uploaded a great video on this very topic. He says Relax, America. https://tinyurl.com/yad3rytd
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Will watch this while reading NOOD

Posted by: exdem13 at June 24, 2020 07:30 PM (W+kMI)

734 This time around, GOP won by 25,000

Thats kind of a big deal.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Dialing a 900 Number To Talk to MAGA Babes at June 24, 2020 07:19 PM (+dsLj)

Yet NC-11 got scooped by the underdog. The candidate favored by Meadows and Trump got beat 2 to 1.

Guess the hippies in Asheville changed registration.

Posted by: golfman at June 24, 2020 07:30 PM (hOMhY)

735 >Sorry but ace is right here. The "let them beclown themselves" theory doesn't work when most voters aren't seeing the raw footage, they're getting the distorted view through the prism of legacy media. "It's only happening in blue cities" - yes, but Americans, because we actually aren't monsters,because we actually have empathy, care about those people. I mean, I kinda don't - but normal good people do.

I do care. I also live in Blue state. But if Trump declares martial, the media will make him own the chaos.

The empathetic thing to do here for Trump is to win the next election. We need to win the house and senate too. And then we need to start legislating.

The dems are are liking the way this is going. Recall summer of love lady saying how she was going to shut CHOMP down. Hasn't happened yet...

Posted by: hevel varik at June 24, 2020 07:30 PM (quVbM)

736 Mark1971: "Anybody see the interview with Wray on Fox?"

No. What would be the point? He's cover for a runaway institution. I don't trust him now. I won't trust him tomorrow. I don't believe he's doing anything to reform a mostly failed agency that has lost its mission and readily abuses its power.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 24, 2020 07:32 PM (HhXSr)

737
BURN THE MOTHERFUCKER TO THE GROUND!!!!11!!11!!!!!!!!!1
Posted by: imp

YES! Let's discuss Weasel's first world problems in terms of fire and maneuver squad tactics!

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at June 24, 2020 07:33 PM (VcFUs)

738 But it's not Trump who is trying to make us look like Mogadishu. It's the Democrats trying to do that, because they think they will get back into power by doing it. They must never be rewarded for this, or we're gonna have some serious problems.

(Which everyone here knows, of course).

Posted by: Andy_in_Colorado at June 24, 2020 07:33 PM (CBrao)

739 We have a military that's very good at taking out these kinds of roadblocks, even from an advisory or intel perspective. We have a DoJ that's usually very good at finding and prosecuting the organizations behind it. The GO's and DoJ brass should get off their fat, flabby asses and stop playing politics.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 24, 2020 07:33 PM (WkTpz)

740 "The empathetic thing to do here for Trump is to win the next election.
Posted by: hevel varik at June 24, 2020 07:30 PM (quVbM)"

Indeed. And ace is saying, and I'm agreeing - that won't happen if this kind of shit is still going on in September and October. So yeah, there's a lot of time for things to play out.

Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at June 24, 2020 07:34 PM (icI8A)

741 Slightly O/T, but somehow the loaf of bread I bought this morning didn't make it into the grocery bag.
Posted by: Weasel at June 24, 2020 07:22 PM (Tr/Ej)
........

You have to help. It won't crawl in there by itself.

Posted by: wth at June 24, 2020 07:34 PM (v0R5T)

742 Wow. Look at all the trolls. Was there a half off sale? I didn't get the flyer.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 24, 2020 07:34 PM (WkTpz)

743 You know, this all serves another Dem purpose: the continued mayhem will convince a lot of timid folks that the only way to stop all the madness it to get rid of Trump. (Really, it's only a shower, I promise...)

Posted by: ProfShade at June 24, 2020 07:34 PM (BdDfF)

744 Yet NC-11 got scooped by the underdog. The candidate favored by Meadows and Trump got beat 2 to 1.

Guess the hippies in Asheville changed registration.
Posted by: golfman at June 24, 2020 07:30 PM (hOMhY)
*********
There is this article that is saying that the Meadows/Trump candidate was a Never-Trumper.
The candidate that won is only 24 yrs. old.
https://tinyurl.com/ycncjtq7

Posted by: redridinghood at June 24, 2020 07:35 PM (wiXsO)

745 What do you base that on? When have liberals ever
been tough or even learned to be tough? There's never any consequences
for their bad behavior, even when it becomes violent. Toughness is
overcoming challenges. When have liberals ever been truly challenged
about anything?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 24, 2020 07:22 PM (HmZuC)

and toughness is overrated, competence matters even more. Look at history and you have many examples of small units defeating huge mobs of radicals who simply had no clue what they were doing. I am not talking hundreds of years ago either.
But what needs to happen is someone has to grow a spine and stand up to all of this. It is not just on the president, but the entire country. The president is saying the right things mostly, but some new tactics are in order imo. I would advise the president to address the nation and persuade the persuadable. That is what Reagan would have done i think. We can still get people to stand up to anarchy but someone needs to persuade them, to explain the situation in a new way.

Posted by: Quint at June 24, 2020 07:35 PM (hHxp2)

746 Is the upstairs thread broken?

Posted by: redridinghood at June 24, 2020 07:36 PM (wiXsO)

747 And where the fuck is Trump? Or Barr? There should be flying squads deployed throughout the US to start locking these fuckers up and making serious examples of them.

----------------------

How much political support did Trump get when he moved communist agitators out of the way so he could proceed to the church? None. In fact a bunch of Republicans and generals freaked out.

That proved the country was not ready to end the madness. So Trump did the smart thing, he defended what he could and let the local Democrats screw things up by allowing it to escalate.

So now the key is thus: When does the majority of America become sick enough of this to support Trump coming down much harder?

This matters because when he does the media will scream "Hitler" and the local state and city democrat leaders will resist, possibly with violence. That means a real fight, which is always ugly politically.

In other words, we need those lily suburbanites (people like Little Marco) to choose between continued chaos or Trump using force.

Posted by: William Eaton at June 24, 2020 07:36 PM (cfkTP)

748 Where's Pixy?????

Posted by: redridinghood at June 24, 2020 07:36 PM (wiXsO)

749 The FBI is "looking carefully" at the possibility that foreign actors are influencing the sometimes-violent nationwide protests in the wake of George Floyd's in-custody death, FBI Director Christopher Wray exclusively told Fox News' Bret Baier on Wednesday.

Posted by: SMOD at June 24, 2020 07:53 PM (X5CsJ)

750 history and you have many examples of small units defeating huge mobs of radicals who simply had no clue what they were doing. I am not talking hundreds of years ago either.
But what needs to happen is someone has to grow a spine and stand up to all of this. It is not just on the president, but the entire country. The president is saying the right things mostly, but some new tactics are in order imo. I would advise the president to address the nation and persuade the persuadable. That is what Reagan would have done i think. We can still get people to stand up to anarchy but someone needs to persuade them, to explain the situation in a new way.
Posted by: Quint at June 24, 2020 07:35 PM (hHxp2)
Karl Rove is in this somewhere. Wait. Wait. Wait. No hill to die on. So un-Trumpian. Doing ' the Rove' is certain political death .
Better to have Trump be Trump than To remind us of ' W'.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at June 24, 2020 07:55 PM (xD/WU)

751 Trump is letting the voters who elected Democrats get what they wanted... without lube or martyrs...

Maybe they'll stop voting for people who incite mobs and then back down...
I notice the protests in Red states have been much calmer.
An armed society is a polite society.

Posted by: setnaffa at June 24, 2020 08:01 PM (c4NCi)

752 Shouldn't we be doing something?

Posted by: TeleSkier at June 24, 2020 08:09 PM (XY8oi)

753 "Where is Trump?"

Trump is a survivor, he is not a happy warrior. He is not a patriot. He does not want to "own the chaos" and fight for America. No. He wants to survive and squeak out an electoral victory over "Sleepy Joe."

Sure, beating Biden would be a victory, but it's not like Trump going AWOL and leaving the streets in parts of America to these terrorists is the only path forward. It's certainly not a principled one. He's no different than Stephanie Rawlings-Blake back in 2015, "We also gave those who wished to destroy space to do that."

Posted by: Doug at June 24, 2020 08:26 PM (J2UyQ)

754 Can I buy you a hot dog?

Posted by: jbspry at June 24, 2020 08:30 PM (ATe9j)

755 "Democracy is the theory that the common man knows what he wants and deserves to get it, good and hard."
-H.L. Mencken-

Trump is exercising democracy as your web site's patron saint described it. He is letting blue states get a god-damned gutful of what they voted for.

I say carry on President Trump!

Posted by: jbspry at June 24, 2020 08:36 PM (ATe9j)

756 not only are all these centers of anarchy cities run by Democrats. Most are run by Black democrats (or, wanta bes)

Posted by: projection on steroids at June 24, 2020 08:46 PM (V9NdA)

757 Not that anyone cares but Kurt Schlicter called it. This is a dem info OP not kinetic. If you are in a blue city or worse, a blue city in a blue state, it pretty much sucks as street crime is also spiking in these areas along with the resist we much behavior. So, be alert, use your smart phones, radios, TV, social media to avoid it. Hunker down, keep powder dry, and don't be provoked.

The instant that it hurts the dems as covid did, poof, it will disappear because the money guys will make it so. But, the risk to the dems is communications and if you don't think that nsa bob isn't listening, I will sell you a bridge.

Qatar, China, and some other transnational actors like antifud and cartels are also involved. Sometimes if you are going to lance a boil, it is best to let it come to a head

Posted by: whig at June 24, 2020 08:55 PM (OZEtd)

758 I live in Michigan & thank God I'm drinking. The authorities (define for yourself) need to start shooting, and not with rubber bullets.

Posted by: Biblio at June 24, 2020 08:58 PM (HR2wa)

759 Two is one.
One is none.
Embrace the power of "and".
Back
Up
Gun
BUG

Posted by: waepnedmann at June 24, 2020 09:11 PM (Y/Kgl)

760 "What happens when the next motorist stopped by the bandits has a gun, and decides that he, too, would like to brandish it?"
He'll get shot
The intelligent one would not brandish it. he would just shoot everyone in the vicinity who's carrying a gun, and then drive away

Posted by: Greg The Class Traitor at June 24, 2020 09:11 PM (m70qF)

761 How many times did i warn people here that the left/democrats were trying to force America to third world status ? Sooo much denial turning America into0 a utopian society hell hole. Satisfied how much damage your denial has caused this nation and its people ?

Posted by: ron n. at June 25, 2020 12:37 AM (om5HK)

762 This current anarchy society is just why the democrats desperately wanted you disarmed, so YOU would be at the thugs mercy, and they would have had little mercy. They really like murdering, robbing and raping.

Posted by: ron n. at June 25, 2020 12:40 AM (om5HK)

763 that's no.1 case against federalism.law and order are currently in the hands of extremely incompetent, corrupt, biased and evil mayors and a batch of far left governors.
Trump can't do nothing. because: "holy federalism".
he has more authority to bomb some middle eastern shithole than to send the troops to michigan or seatlle.people still blame him though. and then accuse him of being a fascist.a good little portion of old fashioned right wing fascism could do real wonders here!

Posted by: juicer at June 25, 2020 09:00 AM (iXIWF)

764 So surprising the {{{media}}} and the {{{FBI}}} are not covering a black militia terrorizing an American city I am sure a White militia would given exactly the same treatment.

Posted by: mGrant at June 25, 2020 11:58 AM (r5iyh)

765 I don't say this lightly, but there is going to be a mass shooting soon. Police are letting these idiots turn cities into war zones and one side or the other is going to crack. Either the little bitch who holds his AR like a musket or some armed American tired of this shit is going to start pulling the trigger.

Posted by: Fed Up at June 25, 2020 02:36 PM (lFWos)

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