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Breitbart: Credibly Accused Racist and White Supremacist Rick Wilson Was In Dire Financial Straits Before He Cashed in as a NeverTrumper
Much more at the link. It's a deep dive into Rick Wilson's history and finances. They were in favor of the Confederacy before they were against it. When they were grifting money from people who didn't want the Confederate flag made illegal, Rick and Mollie Wilson supported the Confederate flag. When the revenues from their old grift-targets dried up, they moved to denouncing the Confederate flag as "treason" and anyone supporting the flag as traitors. That would include them, wouldn't it? More from John Sexton, who gives his post the headline, Things appear to be heading South for Rick Wilson. Glenn Greenwald had fun at Rick's expense yesterday, retweeting all of Rick Wilson's inflammatory tweets about Obama, race, etc., that Rick had posted when he was being paid to be an inflammatory twitter asshole for the right instead of an inflammatory twitter asshole for the left. Clarification: My lawyer informs me that I have to note Rick Wilson's general defense for his bad behavior: He is, he claims, a "Pirate." Hey Rick -- Maybe you shouldn't have tried cancelling Domino's over an eight-year-old thank you to then social media intern Kayleigh McEnany, huh? Play c*ck games, win c*ck prizes, "Pirate."
Records demonstrate that as Trump was taking off as a political force, Wilson's personal financial situation turned dour. The bank was moving in on his house, credit card companies were suing him over debt accrued, and the IRS filed various liens against him for almost $400,000 for back taxes in February 2014. As that happened, Wilson’s political style changed to become anti-Trump instead of continuing with his decades-long history of inflammatory right-wing politics. Wilson's The Lincoln Project, a group of Never Trump political consultants running targeted ads attacking Trump this year, has been touting an ad bashing the Confederate flag as a symbol of "treason" against the United States. ... But then some conservatives uncovered social media posts from Wilson and his wife featuring a cooler with a Confederate flag on it as well as the text in one image: "The South Will Rise Again." Wilson has been feverishly deleting the images from Twitter, and when his wife, Molly--legal name Mary--was confronted by conservative Caleb Hull, she would not deny owning the cooler or disavow the Confederate flag on it. She simply replied "Fuck off" to Hull, per screenshots he posted of his confronting her about it.
A Note About the Alleged Piratical Status of Rick Wilson Just because you order filthy criminal drifters to board your wife, Rick, does not make you a Pirate King.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 17, 2020 04:38 PM (XEfKE)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 04:40 PM (LvTSG)
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Posted by: Colin at June 17, 2020 04:41 PM (BMkMo)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 04:41 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at June 17, 2020 04:41 PM (xptlg)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 17, 2020 04:41 PM (+oVP5)
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For the record, all this sweet, sweet Confederate merch I'm buying isn't going to pay for itself you know.
Posted by: THERICKWILSON at June 17, 2020 04:41 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: JT at June 17, 2020 04:41 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2020 04:41 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Someguy at June 17, 2020 04:42 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 04:42 PM (6f16T)
Posted by: Archer at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Scared patriot at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (DB1SB)
Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (mrCPi)
I presume the political left works the same way. That way they have rewards AND a stick to keep you in line. Which also meshes with how NVIXIMworked too now that I think of it.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (ELQTX)
Posted by: Scared patriot at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (DB1SB)
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (dUJdY)
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I hope he finds God, retreats to a remote cabin without connection to the outside world, and prays for 18 hours a day for the rest of his days.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 04:44 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Scared patriot at June 17, 2020 04:44 PM (DB1SB)
First she accused Hull of Photoshopping the picture.
She then threw her kid under the bus, saying it was his.
Then she told Hull to "fuck off".
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2020 04:44 PM (UW2ZS)
Drew Holden's tour de force on all the times Rick the little Dick has been wrong
https://twitter.com/DrewHolden360/status/
1273001174635954176
LOL, GF, butt "pirate."
Posted by: imp at June 17, 2020 04:44 PM (SFOr6)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 17, 2020 04:44 PM (IdlNu)
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Hey I just got a great idea for a whole new line of candles from women of the world!
Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at June 17, 2020 04:45 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: Mr. Barky at June 17, 2020 04:45 PM (hKi6n)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (WdocV)
The entire federal government operates this way.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 17, 2020 04:45 PM (fIHXk)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2020 04:45 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Hands at June 17, 2020 04:46 PM (786Ro)
Consultants have no character or ethics.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2020 04:46 PM (QID7s)
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THIS TV IS FOR THAT POOR GUY THE COPS SHOT. ERR WHATEVER HIS NAME WAS!
The other TV? That's for my favorite baby mama!
Posted by: Some Atlanta Rioter at June 17, 2020 04:46 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: Jen the original at June 17, 2020 04:46 PM (4lz+j)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 04:46 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Ben at June 17, 2020 04:46 PM (XfhKA)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 04:44 PM (LvTSG)
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With 10 minutes off every hour to post Bible verses to the 'gram, right?
Posted by: Comey at June 17, 2020 04:46 PM (yL25O)
I'm beginning to have doubts about this fellows sincerity.
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 17, 2020 04:46 PM (Bvwml)
She then threw her kid under the bus, saying it was his.
Then she told Hull to "fuck off".
Missed the steo where she said the kid's girlfriend put it together.
Which was stupud. Because if she didn't that is a lawsuit waiting to hit the door.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 17, 2020 04:46 PM (IdlNu)
Posted by: Colin at June 17, 2020 04:47 PM (BMkMo)
This post could benefit from a graph showing Jonah Goldberg's declining pants budget over the last 4 years.
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I think the real graph you want to see is Goldberg FUPA size vs pants budget.
Posted by: Some Math Nerd at June 17, 2020 04:47 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 17, 2020 04:45 PM (H5knJ)
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From the pictures I've seen linked from here recently, I would think that was an ascending pants budget. As in, he needed new ones because the old ones could not be let out any more.
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 04:47 PM (/669Q)
He deserves all the shit that tweet has brought down on him..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 17, 2020 04:47 PM (CjFDo)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 17, 2020 04:47 PM (upXAm)
Posted by: gb51 at June 17, 2020 04:47 PM (9qgwW)
IMPEACH, IMPEACH! Bolton (the Warmonger) is right!
Posted by: Colon at June 17, 2020 04:47 PM (5NXRQ)
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Tie 'im to the rail and give him forty strokes.
And then whip 'im.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at June 17, 2020 04:47 PM (1jlUc)
Posted by: Mrs. Rick Wilson at June 17, 2020 04:48 PM (IdlNu)
I wonder how many of the Never Trumpers did it just to jump on the gravy train? Not that they were ever conservative but just moving from one grift to another
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 17, 2020 04:48 PM (mpeBU)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 17, 2020 04:48 PM (sWM8x)
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It is amazing how many voluntary capos there are.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2020 04:48 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: Captain Hate at June 17, 2020 04:48 PM (efT0o)
Posted by: Colon at June 17, 2020 04:48 PM (5NXRQ)
A fat pirate in mom jeans.
Posted by: Sphynx at June 17, 2020 04:48 PM (rXie1)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 17, 2020 04:48 PM (HmZuC)
Posted by: Cap'n Gillum at June 17, 2020 04:48 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 04:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Jen the original at June 17, 2020 04:46 PM (4lz+j)
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I freely admit that I know his name only from this blog.
From whence I have also learned that he is a pirate.
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (dfRN6)
Posted by: Scared patriot at June 17, 2020 04:44 PM (DB1SB)
What's the temperature there at night? Has Best Buy got some new HDTVs in?
If the answers are "above 80," and "yes," then they're gonna get their riot on tonight.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (oMc1W)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (Zz0t1)
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Comments like that violate Twitter TOS on wishing ill on people
Posted by: Scared Patriot at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (DB1SB)
You and French can continue your lonely fight for your True Con(TM) onanfest.
Jay Caruso @JayCaruso
Oh, gee whiz. Another stupid effing hit piece on @DavidAFrench. This one whines about what French is not writing about in Time magazine.
What a bunch of intellectually lazy, insufferable bores.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (SU/3O)
Wilson was a GOPe political strategist. Now he's a never-Trump grifter.
In both roles he has always been a nasty, small-minded troll.
If you peruse his Twitter account, Wilson is fond of awful personal attacks on good people.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2020 04:50 PM (UW2ZS)
Still wondering if Rickie has ever had sex with a live woman.
Posted by: gb51 at June 17, 2020 04:47 PM
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Define live.......
Posted by: Rick Wilson at June 17, 2020 04:50 PM (JUOKG)
I freely admit that I know his name only from this blog.
From whence I have also learned that he is a pirate.
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (/669Q)
This, actually.....
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 04:50 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at June 17, 2020 04:50 PM (WEaJc)
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 04:50 PM (yL25O)
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It is amazing how many voluntary capos there are.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2020 04:48 PM (WdocV)
More like commissars.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 04:50 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: f'd at June 17, 2020 04:50 PM (XfhKA)
Posted by: The Paulo at June 17, 2020 04:50 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 04:50 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 17, 2020 04:50 PM (SU/3O)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (6f16T)
Posted by: 13times at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (K3B2k)
Thin crust meat lovers.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (20lgM)
Yep.
Wilson's post-GOP career eerily resembles his GOP career.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (puu6v)
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I think they prefer "trouser pilots" now.
Gentlemen of Butt.
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (oMc1W)
Rump Wranglers. To make themselves feel more masculine.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (N39Ws)
The Democrats are trying to convince people that local LEOs are corrupt so they can offer Federal "oversight" or other forms of power creep as a solution.
When it's the Federal LEOs that are the most rotten of all.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at June 17, 2020 04:50 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (J+mig)
How is he out walking around?
How do you get to a $400k tax bill?
Holy crap.
That is nothing.....
Posted by: The Rev. Al Sharpton at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (IdlNu)
Posted by: f'd at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (XfhKA)
Fortunately, Wilson is an orc runt, and not a human being.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (HmZuC)
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According to no less an authority then Supreme Court justice Gorsuch I've had sex with many women.
F*ck you Scalia!
Posted by: The Rick Wilson at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (WdocV)
I went in the wrong way yesterday and got yelled at. How this dumb bitch is a greeter is beyond me. She's been there for years and has the personality of mop.
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (+eVzC)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (XZTFS)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (Zmnko)
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I think they prefer "trouser pilots" now.
Gentlemen of Butt.
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 04:49 PM (oMc1W)
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Butt Seriously
It's kind of an 80's Max Headroom vibe.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (JUOKG)
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Where is that? On Twitter?
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 04:52 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 04:52 PM (oMc1W)
My first cognizance of TheRickWilson was when he was yucking it up with Don LeMons and the other dude calling Trump supporters ignorant rubes. Made a big impression on me. Not a good one.
Posted by: Sphynx at June 17, 2020 04:52 PM (rXie1)
Posted by: Andrew Gillum at June 17, 2020 04:52 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: kallisto at June 17, 2020 04:52 PM (FpybW)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 17, 2020 04:52 PM (upXAm)
Maybe you shouldn't have tried cancelling Domino's over an eight-year-old thank you to then social media intern Kayleigh McEnany, huh?
Play c*ck games, win c*ck prizes, "Pirate."
Posted by: Ace at 04:39 PM
You embraced these new rules, Rick.
Reap them as the wear your ass out to the size of a 50's Buick.
I'm going to laugh the entire time.
Can you find a U and picture of a Crane NOW?
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (/669Q)
Who does he think he is, SecTreas Geithner?
Stiffing the IRS for $400,000 is indeed impressive. Did he not file returns for a decade or so?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (20lgM)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (oVJmc)
Seems to me they mostly bet the farm on Trump being an ineffective experiment. They thought he would crash and burn, it would show all the Trump supporting rubes we can't do things any way but their's, and that we should run back to their mis-shapen sallow arms and beg forgiveness for forsaking them.
Then once they found out Trump wasn't going to be the Hindenburg x 10 their egos took over and they determined to MAKE Trump a disaster.
Then once that failed, they screamed into the void.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (UW2ZS)
Posted by: Hands at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sphynx at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (rXie1)
Posted by: Phil Rizzuto at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (XRtvO)
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (oMc1W)
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (XZTFS)
Posted by: Bert G at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (OMsf+)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: The Barrel at June 17, 2020 04:54 PM (Zz0t1)
"He also said he had known Bolton for years and is shocked he would do this. Said that he has shrunk down his circle of friends to just a few and his family because he has learned that most of who he thought were honorable people cannot be trusted .
I had to feel sorry for him. It DOES suck to trust people and have them turn out to be the complete opposite of who you thought they were.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 17, 2020 04:36 PM (4lz+j)
Maybe Levin is finally coming around to what all of us out here in flyover country believe - that every single person who lives within 30 miles of Washington, D.C., is a dishonorable self serving asshole who would sell his own mother out for even the tiniest shred of fame or power.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2020 04:54 PM (Kpl3J)
The demonization of local police around the country will almost definitely be used as a call to centralize police power in DC.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at June 17, 2020 04:54 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 17, 2020 04:54 PM (20lgM)
Posted by: Sharkman at June 17, 2020 04:54 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 04:54 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: David French's boyfriend who is now a girl according to the SC at June 17, 2020 04:54 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 17, 2020 04:54 PM (upXAm)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 04:54 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (XZTFS)
Bulls don't work for free, man!
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2020 04:54 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Sharkman at June 17, 2020 04:55 PM (BM2fS)
Ricks real name : Frederick George Wilson.
Fred is short for Frederick, and only an o away from Fredo. Coincidence?
Posted by: pep at June 17, 2020 04:55 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: garrett at June 17, 2020 04:55 PM (XRtvO)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 17, 2020 04:55 PM (oVJmc)
Yo ho ho and a shed full of tears!
Posted by: El Kabong at June 17, 2020 04:55 PM (datdl)
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Hookers n' blow? Of course I don't see Rick Wilson as the female hooker type.
Posted by: Obligatory at June 17, 2020 04:55 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: Sphynx at June 17, 2020 04:52 PM (rXie1)
I'll bet there's lots of ignorant rubes who handle money better than The Rick.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 04:55 PM (XZTFS)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 17, 2020 04:55 PM (20lgM)
Posted by: Clifford at June 17, 2020 04:55 PM (XRtvO)
Posted by: Colin at June 17, 2020 04:56 PM (BMkMo)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (XZTFS)
Probably not that well compensated. The main payoff for a lot of these guys is cushy government jobs when their candidate wins, "consultant" gigs, jobs with lobbying firms, and the occasional book deal. But you also have to live in the DC area, which is ridiculously expensive, especially if you want your kids to go to the right schools and such.
He and his wife have likely been living far above their means in order to keep up with the social circles that they want to run in.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 04:56 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 04:54 PM (YqDXo)
I thought I Ctrl - something'd and caused my browser to fubar.....
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 04:56 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at June 17, 2020 04:56 PM (upXAm)
to keep up with the social circles that they want to run in.
Any number of old English books will tell you that's a bad idea.
Posted by: pep at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 04:43 PM (/669Q)
Who does he think he is, SecTreas Geithner?
Stiffing the IRS for $400,000 is indeed impressive. Did he not file returns for a decade or so?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (YqDXo)
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Or did he really take a bath on stock options somewhere?
That's dot-com crash level tax bill.
Or, apparently, ace isn't kidding when he says there's money in this grifting thing.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (yL25O)
I'm The Rick has been well compensated. How did he get into so much financial trouble?
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Getting all your custom made confederate gears costs money now. You can't just buy it at Walmart anymore.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (WdocV)
credit card companies were suing him over debt accrued
He should have done the Total Money Makeover!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Sloth from Goonies at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (xfb67)
When you see a fat lazy slob
Getting a good paying job
And his hair is all covered in brylcreem,
Call it sad, call if funny
But you can bet its even money
That the guy is doing it all for some...IRS agent?
Posted by: Boswell at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (32YRo)
Not the slavery, but the anti-corporate giant part? (idk how to describe what I perceive some argue about, in favor of those against oppressive tariffs/taxes on the south, which benefited the industrialist northerners). There do seem to be a few parallels to the current conglomerate/corporate domination of DC, against the "populist" America/Liberty First masses.
Trump speaks of how a President Jackson may have avoided such a bloody destructive civil war, and I have a raw feeling that it was industrialists more than slavery that drove the initial decision leading to war ... slavery became the "populist sloganeering" campaign. I'm sketchy on all that ... but BigMoney usually "drives the bus", not dreams of Liberty (except for the founders little gang of revolutionaries ... but they were the rebels, not the Union Jack(off) Kings, overtaxing the serfs)
Posted by: illiniwek at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (Cus5s)
That's the ONLY reason the National Review grifters have expressed concern about what NBC and Google did to The Federalist. They know it is coming for the NR out of the blue, too.
Good.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (YqDXo)
Being from the South, I don't have anything with the confederate flag on it myself. I am intelligent enough to realize that flags/words/symbols cannot *actually* cause harm and I do recognize though that for many the flag is about legacy, not an endorsement of racism or slavery.
But with that said: to actually have the phrase "The South Will Rise Again" on something you own? That is legit racist. There's no way Rick can wiggle out of that one, imo.
Posted by: Venus at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (iYXhj)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (XZTFS)
I've seen plenty of well compensated people get into huge financial trouble. Although the specifics are different, in general it's always the same old story. Getting so far behind on taxes is a classic for people who don't have withholding and who are supposed to make quarterly payments; and then of course they blow all their money so they don't have any to make the payment when it's time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (Kpl3J)
Is Rick on the Red China CCP propaganda payroll?
Posted by: Sphynx at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (rXie1)
The void is also the name of my vagina. And only Palou can fill the void.
Posted by: Mrs. Rick Wilson at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (IdlNu)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 04:55 PM (XZTFS)
Having brains and being bad with money are not mutally exclusive
(looks off in the distance wistfully)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (XZTFS)
Your Credit has been eaten by an Accrue.
Posted by: Zork at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (XRtvO)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 04:56 PM (wCmLp)
So the NeverTrump leadership are mere poseurs trying to worm their way into the upper crust.
Who knew?
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (J+mig)
Posted by: Sphynx at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (rXie1)
Isn't everybody?
Posted by: The DNC at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: 18-1
Hillary Clinton collected over 900 raw FBI files on pretty much everyone who was anyone in DC, including up and coming folks in both parties, and photocopied every one of them in early 1993.
Hence why she is going to be running for President in place of Biden in a couple of months, and why she gets away with outright murder and pedophilia whenever she feels like it. Which is often.
Those files have come in
Posted by: Sharkman at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (Wm5SB)
Stiffing the IRS for $400,000 is indeed impressive. Did he not file returns for a decade or so?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (YqDXo)
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Chris Plante used to call Geithner "TurboTax Timmy." If Obama appointing a man to be Secretary of the Treasury who was in arrears to the U.S. Treasury for $42K isn't emblematic of his whole presidency, I don't know what is.
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (/669Q)
Worth mentioning his major Republican clients were Connie Mack way back in '88, old man Bush's '88 presidential campaign in Florida, then Giuliani's '97 NYC mayoral and '00 senate campaigns. He did some DoD work during Bush's first term under Cheney too.
His public resume is suspiciously thin after 2000 though.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (+oVP5)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 04:55 PM (XZTFS)
Having brains and being bad with money are not mutally exclusive
(looks off in the distance wistfully)
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2020 04:57 PM (CqE5x)
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Thomas Jefferson has entered the chat.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 04:59 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Daughter of Rick And Molly Wilson at June 17, 2020 04:59 PM (E7vND)
Posted by: ShainS at June 17, 2020 04:59 PM (9DzlB)
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (Wm5SB)
I want to steal this and put it on a t-shirt.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 04:59 PM (wCmLp)
Your Credit has been eaten by an Accrue.
Posted by: Zork at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (XRtvO)
You have died from Dysentery.
Posted by: The Rick Wilson Trail at June 17, 2020 04:59 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (+eVzC)
But he may not be on your side as much as you wish.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2020 04:59 PM (QID7s)
Do they have TheRickWilson pizza with extra cheese?
Posted by: dantesed at June 17, 2020 04:59 PM (88xKn)
Posted by: Menack at June 17, 2020 05:00 PM (buTO7)
Posted by: Venus
"Hey!!! Not OUR fault! It was our racist teenage son!!!!"
--- The Rick "Dick" & Molly "Mary" Wilson
Posted by: Sharkman at June 17, 2020 05:00 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM (yL25O)
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So Did the Late Great Jani Lane of Warrant
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 17, 2020 05:00 PM (SU/3O)
Tariff policy was a sore point. Industrialists in the North wanted stiff tariffs on British manufactured goods to protect their industries, whereas plantation owners and farmers in the South did not want tariffs, because they ended up paying the tariffs on British manufactured goods.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 05:00 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 04:59 PM (yL25O)
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To be fair, the economics of being a major slave owner weren't really good for access to large amounts of liquid assets. Most of their assets were in slaves.
Made paying the town baker for that order of bread for the party last month a bit harder.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:00 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (JUOKG)
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Where is that? On Twitter?
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 04:52 PM (/669Q)
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Yes, the Domino's official account responded to Rick's tweet telling them they had "killed their brand" with:
"It's unfortunate that a response to a customer's compliment in 2012 is considered political, but that's 2020 for you."
Posted by: Venus at June 17, 2020 05:00 PM (iYXhj)
Treasury who was in arrears to the U.S. Treasury for $42K isn't
emblematic of his whole presidency, I don't know what is.
Posted by: bluebell
I give you...Attorney General Eric Holder.
Posted by: pep at June 17, 2020 05:00 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2020 04:51 PM (JUOKG)
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Where is that? On Twitter?
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 04:52 PM---
Yes.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2020 05:01 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 05:01 PM (XZTFS)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2020 05:01 PM (wXhu+)
Posted by: nip at June 17, 2020 05:01 PM (Izot6)
Posted by: Mortal Kombat Player Who Wants Rick The Dick Finished at June 17, 2020 05:01 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Tuna at June 17, 2020 05:01 PM (gLRfa)
Very pirate-like.
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 17, 2020 04:53 PM
Maybe he has a pirate nickname, like:
Cuckbeard
Posted by: Bert G at June 17, 2020 05:01 PM (l/DtQ)
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (SU/3O)
Meh, the two are interrelated. Slavery was integrated into every aspect of southern life, and removing it would have been hugely destructive. At the same time, it also meant that the South was drifting further from the rapidly growing and industrializing North, and Southern political and economic power was waning.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: ACLU at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (oMc1W)
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (bJwyo)
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 04:59 PM (yL25O)
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To be fair, the economics of being a major slave owner weren't really good for access to large amounts of liquid assets. Most of their assets were in slaves.
Made paying the town baker for that order of bread for the party last month a bit harder.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:00 PM (LvTSG)
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How many times was he directly bailed out by the Virginia Commonwealth?
Just to avoid the optics? Twice at least right?
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (yL25O)
good for access to large amounts of liquid assets. Most of their assets
were in slaves.
Made paying the town baker for that order of bread for the party last month a bit harder.
That wasn't Jefferson's problem. His problem was that if he saw something he wanted, he bought it, and he wanted everything. Sort of like our Federal Government.
Posted by: pep at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (/669Q)
SecTreas uses TurboTax? That was a story right there.
Also, anyone can forget to include a lousy $400,000 of income. Who can keep track?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Tuna at June 17, 2020 05:01 PM (gLRfa)
I can't wait to get out of this fucking city.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (wCmLp)
I'd guess he failed to set aside tax withholdings on consulting and company ownership stuff, tried rolling forward his full gross income, screwed himself somewhere along the line, and kept digging new holes to get outta previous holes.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (+oVP5)
Posted by: Menack
I love this trailer for that terrible, awful, disgusting, wonderful movie:
https://tinyurl.com/CHUD1983
"CANNIBALISTIC HUMANOID UNDERGROUND DWELLERS!!"
"Ayeeeyaaahhhh!! Run for your lives!!"
Posted by: Sharkman at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: Tim Kaine at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM (oMc1W)
Many of us said this at the time Nikki Haley pulled her little political ho stunt. Confederate monuments were the Left's gateway drug to implementing Year Zero and erasing all vestiges of American history. Haley won't get past Iowa. And that's a good thing.
As an aside, this "police reform" bullshit coming from the GOP-led Senate is just another version of "sure, we'll agree to erasing Confederate insignia for the common good." They have bought into the Left's premises law enforcement is inherently evil and have been, ironically, complicit in their silence about the violence and horrible crimes being committed by "peaceful protestors."
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: pep at June 17, 2020 05:00 PM (T6t7i)
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Well, yes. In return I give you Joe Biden. No really, keep him.
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM (/669Q)
As opposed to the Civil War?
Posted by: pep at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM (T6t7i)
Trump's exactly right, Jackson DID stop a civil war when he was President; today's officials who cower and quake in the face of "protests" should take a lesson from him. IIRC, in about 1835 or 1836, South Carolina and some of the other southern states were already starting to talk about Secession, and threatened to hold a vote. Jackson heard about it, and publicly promised that if it happened, he would head down there and Personally Hang the first man who voted for it from the first tree that he could find.
Given Jackson's history, no one doubted that Jackson would do exactly what he promised, and all talk of secession at that time ended right there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM (KZzsI)
Because everyone of them has these problems--put on the mesh-back trucker hat to fool the stupid conservatives.
The latest from the left is trying to make a big scandal that McConnell had his photo taken accepting an award in front of a Confederate flag
And, it's not just Confederate iconography that is bad now, but Washington and Jefferson.
How many of these Nevertrump have praised those?
Delicious, the smell of their flesh on the bonfires of the left.
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM (Bvwml)
Just to avoid the optics? Twice at least right?
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (yL25O)
Boy, he really WAS a Democrat.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (+oVP5)
Why didn't he hire an accountant to do it for him?
Posted by: dantesed at June 17, 2020 05:04 PM (88xKn)
Yup, I was thinking the exact same thing.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 17, 2020 05:04 PM (+oVP5)
Trump's exactly right, Jackson DID stop a civil war when he was President; today's officials who cower and quake in the face of "protests" should take a lesson from him. IIRC, in about 1835 or 1836, South Carolina and some of the other southern states were already starting to talk about Secession, and threatened to hold a vote. Jackson heard about it, and publicly promised that if it happened, he would head down there and Personally Hang the first man who voted for it from the first tree that he could find.
Given Jackson's history, no one doubted that Jackson would do exactly what he promised, and all talk of secession at that time ended right there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM (Kpl3J)
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And then he gave into the South by renegotiating the tariffs, telling a new generation of Southerners that they could use threats of rebellion to get what they wanted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:04 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: demoncrat at June 17, 2020 05:04 PM (T/iD4)
Posted by: Dicked Wilson at June 17, 2020 05:04 PM (EgshT)
I'm not buying the polls that show Biden a zillion points ahead, but I don't think Trump losing is impossible.
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I looked closer and the percentage of how much Biden is ahead is matched exactly by how much support Trump lost from Republicans angry with him over Schlong Flu and the Riots.
So I believe his support has eroded but it's temporary anger from the electorate. It isn't going to hold and the base will consolidate closer to the election when the reality of a demented pedophile replacing Trump really starts to set in.
I'm angry with Trump too because I want him to go heavy handed and butt fuck BLM/Antifa out of existence and end ALL lockdowns, but at the same time I see the merit on letting it play out because we're seeing what the dems are like, good and hard.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Ah Fuck It All at June 17, 2020 05:04 PM (+dsLj)
Given Jackson's history, no one doubted that Jackson would do exactly what he promised, and all talk of secession at that time ended right there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM (Kpl3J)
Our political class has by and large spent the past thirty years "managing" one crisis after another while hoping that a solution will magically appear that won't require them to demonstrate personal courage or expend political capital.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 05:04 PM (wCmLp)
Maybe that doesn't help if the IRS is at the door too?
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:04 PM (yL25O)
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The Old South had a great deal to recommend it. I'm personally quite proud of my Southern heritage. I'm proud of my forebears who fought for the Confederacy. They were fine men.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 17, 2020 05:04 PM (sWM8x)
He did apply at one point to be a Cabin Boy, but not even John LeStinkyFeet would take him on as part of is crew.
Posted by: Capt. Long Dong Silver at June 17, 2020 05:05 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at June 17, 2020 05:05 PM (EMi53)
Also, anyone can forget to include a lousy $400,000 of income. Who can keep track?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (YqDXo)
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I think Plante was just making an alliterative joke.
That wasn't $400,00 of income he missed reporting, that's $400,000 of TAXES he missed paying. Oops.
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 05:05 PM (/669Q)
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The Old South had a great deal to recommend it. I'm personally quite proud of my Southern heritage. I'm proud of my forebears who fought for the Confederacy. They were fine men.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 17, 2020 05:04 PM (sWM8x)
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I bet it sucked to be poor and white in the antebellum South.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:05 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2020 05:05 PM (QID7s)
Treasury who was in arrears to the U.S. Treasury for $42K isn't
emblematic of his whole presidency, I don't know what is.
How about Obama inviting Al Sharpton to the White House over 30 times and putting him on multiple social justice committees while Sharpton owed millions in back taxes?
He still does by the way.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2020 05:06 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2020 05:05 PM (QID7s)
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Anti-Masons or nothing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:06 PM (LvTSG)
45s
Ann and I have always had the utmost respect for Rick and Molly Wilson and though we never socialized with those two, we worked together on a number of campaigns and learned a lot from each other.
it is unseemly that President Trump would sic his IRS on Rick and cause him financial hardship.
I will be joining my colleagues from both chambers and both sides of the aisles in calling for an investigation into abuse of power.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2020 05:06 PM (CqE5x)
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It would appear not really. The war devastated the south....but changing over to a paid system of labor for the former slaves worked pretty easily. This isn't to say it was a great system or anything for the former slaves....but if slavery had been banned without the war it would have been a minor blip in "southern life".
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2020 05:06 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 05:06 PM (XZTFS)
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The Old South had a great deal to recommend it. I'm personally quite proud of my Southern heritage. I'm proud of my forebears who fought for the Confederacy. They were fine men.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 17, 2020 05:04 PM (sWM8x)
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I bet it sucked to be poor and white in the antebellum South.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:05 PM (LvTSG)
An elite landed aristocracy and a landless unemployed population like late imperial Rome.
Posted by: Someguy at June 17, 2020 05:06 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 17, 2020 04:58 PM (Wm5SB)
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I want to steal this and put it on a t-shirt.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 04:59 PM
https://tinyurl.com/yapq5fsjalso:
https://tinyurl.com/ybvoavh4and there's this:
https://tinyurl.com/y9trqfbb
Posted by: Bert G at June 17, 2020 05:07 PM (l/DtQ)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:06 PM (LvTSG)
Jackie hit hardest
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 17, 2020 05:07 PM (mpeBU)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 05:07 PM (6f16T)
He still does by the way.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2020 05:06 PM (ZLI7S)
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Yes. He is on the short list for Biden's Secretary of the Treasury.
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 05:07 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: Pirate Rick Wilson at June 17, 2020 05:08 PM (o2vOl)
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Yes, my forebears lived through that, too. An awful lot of land was stolen during Reconstruction.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 17, 2020 05:08 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 05:01 PM (XZTFS)
Are there no prisons? Are there no work houses?
And the poor lord - still in good vigor, I presume?
Oh, for a second I thought something had stopped them in their useful course...
Posted by: Boswell at June 17, 2020 05:08 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: pep at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM (T6t7i)
That's the point. The Civil War was basically inevitable. They couldn't get rid of slavery without massive economic and social upheaval, and it was becoming increasingly difficult to maintain it as part of the Union. The slaveholding class were the political leaders in the South, and if you're headed for destruction either way, better to fight.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 05:08 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: Ricky Wilson Cucky Butt Pirate at June 17, 2020 05:08 PM (d6DSt)
That is why it must always be judged by it's bright future and never by it's murderous past.
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:08 PM (oMc1W)
"Trump's exactly right, Jackson DID stop a civil war when he was President; today's officials who cower and quake in the face of "protests" should take a lesson from him. IIRC, in about 1835 or 1836, South Carolina and some of the other southern states were already starting to talk about Secession, and threatened to hold a vote. Jackson heard about it, and publicly promised that if it happened, he would head down there and Personally Hang the first man who voted for it from the first tree that he could find.
Given Jackson's history, no one doubted that Jackson would do exactly what he promised, and all talk of secession at that time ended right there."
If was the Nullification Crisis, wherein Calhoun and company claimed they had no obligation to pay tariffs the federal government. Yes, this was before the time the United States Supreme Court announced states could ignore federal laws. To which I ask: why should states honor USSC decisions if statutes can be ignored? Because that's the only logical conclusion to how the current USSC dealt with the current nullification crisis.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 17, 2020 05:08 PM (puu6v)
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That I can't tell if this is satire or that Romney actually said it tells me all I need to know about Romney.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Ah Fuck It All at June 17, 2020 05:08 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Bert G at June 17, 2020 05:08 PM (l/DtQ)
Posted by: Pirate Rick Wilson at June 17, 2020 05:09 PM (o2vOl)
I can set up the payment but if the funds aren't there then no payment gets made.
I can give you the schedule.....you still have to write the check.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 17, 2020 05:09 PM (IdlNu)
Also, anyone can forget to include a lousy $400,000 of income. Who can keep track?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 17, 2020 05:02 PM (YqDXo)
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I think Plante was just making an alliterative joke.
That wasn't $400,00 of income he missed reporting, that's $400,000 of TAXES he missed paying. Oops.
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 05:05 PM (/669Q)
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My recollection is Geithner making that excuse himself.
Not only did he use TurboTax, which is Baby Steps Tax for Dummies, he says the software was too confusing and gosh darn it messed him up.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:09 PM (yL25O)
I can set up the payment but if the funds aren't there then no payment gets made.
I can give you the schedule.....you still have to write the check.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 17, 2020 05:09 PM (IdlNu)
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You accountants are no fun.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:09 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: f'd at June 17, 2020 05:10 PM (XfhKA)
Posted by: Colin at June 17, 2020 05:10 PM (BMkMo)
Because lots of supposedly smart people think they can manage their own money better than accountants, don't wanna pay for the privilege of lesser advice, and believe they'll make a quick windfall off tax withholdings before they come due.
Don't forget penalties and interest too. Those have a way of making reckless people even more reckless.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 17, 2020 05:10 PM (+oVP5)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:05 PM (LvTSG)
An elite landed aristocracy and a landless unemployed population like late imperial Rome.
Posted by: Someguy at June 17, 2020 05:06 PM (Zm+LZ)
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It's really why I get the whole Confederate Flag thing (though I have no personal feelings towards the flag itself).
Most descendants of the Confederate Armies came from dirt poor families who never came within an inch of owning slaves. Fighting FOR slavery was against their self-interest, so they definitely weren't fighting to keep a perpetual working class that took a lot of their work away from them.
Reading Bud Robertson's biography of Stonewall Jackson was enlightening because he used some data to show the seachange in opinion towards secession in Virginia. It didn't happen when Lincoln won, or when South Carolina seceded, or when Fort Sumter got fired upon. It was when Lincoln called up 70,000 troops. Suddenly the Southern people felt like the North was invading. I get that.
I also get that the vast VAST majority of the Southern aristocracy wrote often about preserving their state as slave owners.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:10 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 17, 2020 05:10 PM (W2Pud)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2020 05:11 PM (wXhu+)
get rid of slavery without massive economic and social upheaval, and it
was becoming increasingly difficult to maintain it as part of the Union.
I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but it's hard to imagine anything being much worse than total economic devastation, and more importantly, loss of a third of your military age males. The real problem was that the South thought they could win so they didn't need to change. Who knows, maybe they could've.
Posted by: pep at June 17, 2020 05:11 PM (T6t7i)
*******
Pillow Biter, Harbor Miner
.......
Dung Puncher, Dingleberry Digger
Posted by: wth at June 17, 2020 05:11 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Orson at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (rQLKg)
Posted by: Pirate Rick Wilson at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (o2vOl)
Posted by: james at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (MNBUP)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: PabloD at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (r/iuN)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:05 PM (LvTSG)
An elite landed aristocracy and a landless unemployed population like late imperial Rome.
Posted by: Someguy at June 17, 2020 05:06 PM (Zm+LZ)
Even more a lot like England at the time. The South always retained much closer ties to the old country than the North did.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (Kpl3J)
Maybe the history buffs on this site can tell me something I've wondered for some time. I know there were proposals that the Federal Gov't purchase the slaves from slave owners for the purpose of freeing them.
Two questions: How seriously was this option considered? and Do you think it would have worked?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (UW2ZS)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (XZTFS)
Posted by: Ricky Wilson Cucky Butt Pirate at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (d6DSt)
*******
Pillow Biter, Harbor Miner
.......
Dung Puncher, Dingleberry Digger
Bung hammer.
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (oMc1W)
Trump's exactly right, Jackson DID stop a civil war when he was
President; today's officials who cower and quake in the face of
"protests" should take a lesson from him. IIRC, in about 1835 or 1836,
South Carolina and some of the other southern states were already
starting to talk about Secession, and threatened to hold a vote.
Jackson heard about it, and publicly promised that if it happened, he
would head down there and Personally Hang the first man who voted for it
from the first tree that he could find.
Given Jackson's history, no one doubted that Jackson would do
exactly what he promised, and all talk of secession at that time ended
right there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2020 05:03 PM
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Jackson was a bully and thought he was smarter than he actually was. His arrogance nearly cost us New Orleans during the War of 1812 but the British messed up worse than he did and made him a Hero by marching straight up to his fortified lines.
But one thing he was not was indecisive. He carried through on his threats and everyone knew it.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 17, 2020 05:13 PM (JUOKG)
They were into Southern Rock.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 17, 2020 05:13 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:13 PM (oMc1W)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (oVJmc)
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I hope you're not trying to sell your house. That would really bring down the curb appeal.
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 05:13 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: Ricky Wilson Cucky Butt Pirate at June 17, 2020 05:13 PM (d6DSt)
Two questions: How seriously was this option considered? and Do you think it would have worked?
Posted by: bonhomme
It's my understanding that the amount of money required would have been huge, so it died of malnutrition. Compared to the cost of the CW, of course....
Posted by: pep at June 17, 2020 05:14 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Orson at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (rQLKg)
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Rick Wilson is the reincarnation of Captain Ahab, hunting the White Supremacist Whale, ever since he got rid of that cooler this morning.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:14 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:09 PM (yL25O)
Tax Attorney......even less fun.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 17, 2020 05:14 PM (IdlNu)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 17, 2020 05:14 PM (axyOa)
I don't buy Neil playing 3D chess, but it was interesting nonetheless.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 17, 2020 05:14 PM (Wm5SB)
Usually that's how I gauge threads that start talking CW.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 17, 2020 05:15 PM (Ve//x)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (oVJmc)
.......
What will you do with Fauci?
Posted by: wth at June 17, 2020 05:15 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 05:15 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Redenzo at June 17, 2020 05:16 PM (E7vND)
Posted by: guy who relates everthing to a Zappa song at June 17, 2020 05:16 PM (XfhKA)
Usually that's how I gauge threads that start talking CW.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 17, 2020 05:15 PM (Ve//x)
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Sic Semper Tyrannis?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:16 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM (UW2ZS)
About as well as proposals to "buy" up all the guns in the US.
Again, it wasn't simply a matter of costs, but of changes to society.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 05:16 PM (wCmLp)
I also get that the vast VAST majority of the Southern aristocracy wrote often about preserving their state as slave owners.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:10 PM (LvTSG)
Yup, people forget that the South seceded in Dec of 1860, and it was not until April 12 that fighting broke out.
Posted by: Capt. Long Dong Silver at June 17, 2020 05:16 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: The Arch-Fiend Farragut at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (oMc1W)
Posted by: Pirate Rick Wilson at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (o2vOl)
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They stumbled on to the way to win. Make the war drag on long enough that an anti-war candidate wins the presidential election or a majority in congress. Which, you'll note, is pretty much the primary way to beat the US in a war.
The problem is the South's western generals sucked and while Lee was dominating his opponents in the Army of the Potomac the South was losing control of critical territory around the Mississippi.
Give them a Lee in the western theater and maybe McClellan wins in 64....
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (WdocV)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (l4C/z)
Are butt pirates still a thing?
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I think they prefer "trouser pilots" now.
Gentlemen of Butt.
ass o'seats.
Posted by: Anachronda at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (sGtp+)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (Ve//x)
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:09 PM (yL25O)
Tax Attorney......even less fun.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at June 17, 2020 05:14 PM (IdlNu)
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And even more expensive.
I'm a structural engineer. I make people spend lots of money on foundations and columns that block their windows. No one throws us parades either.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (l4C/z)
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It's a metaphor
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (LvTSG)
I don't buy Neil playing 3D chess, but it was interesting nonetheless.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at June 17, 2020 05:14 PM (Wm5SB)
Gorsuch's attitude seems to be "fuck it, here's my textual interpretation and yes I'm perfectly aware of how this is going to fuck with a lot of other things." It seems to be a bit of "be careful what you wish for" combined with "It's not our job to fix your poorly written laws."
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 17, 2020 05:18 PM (Ve//x)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 17, 2020 05:18 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (l4C/z)
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It's a metaphor
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (LvTSG)
Damn, I was hoping it would be about Chuck Wendig
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 17, 2020 05:18 PM (l4C/z)
Or maybe Grant kicks his ass in the western theater and the war ends much sooner.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 17, 2020 05:18 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Dicked Wilson at June 17, 2020 05:18 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: PJ at June 17, 2020 05:18 PM (qlTN9)
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Seven minutes in heaven is more my game honestly. Now, Ms RuPaul where were we?
Posted by: Neil Gorsuch at June 17, 2020 05:19 PM (WdocV)
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Is he still doing that Love Connection show?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 17, 2020 05:19 PM (Ve//x)
Well, the first battle of bull run was attended by a bunch of US Congressmen and other assorted aristocrats. They actually made a picnic of it and brought opera glasses to watch. They thought the north would easily overwhelm the south.
Seems to me that's something only a supremely over-confident group of people would do.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2020 05:19 PM (UW2ZS)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 05:19 PM (6f16T)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 17, 2020 05:12 PM
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I'll give him a buck to be my lawn jockey hitching post.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at June 17, 2020 05:19 PM (Dhht7)
Yes. They were strongly for state's rights and individualism. They were highly suspicious of government, very religious, and very capable outdoorsmen and fighters
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2020 05:19 PM (KZzsI)
And slavery still gets supplanted in the next 50 years by machinery...
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 17, 2020 05:19 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2020 05:19 PM (mht8P)
Posted by: PJ at June 17, 2020 05:18 PM (qlTN9)
Carelessness, combined with not really being that rich. Easy credit can be very seductive, and very destructive.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 05:20 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at June 17, 2020 05:20 PM (T09ml)
Argh! Pirates jus' steal more money, ya scurvy dog!
Posted by: Pirate Rick Wilson at June 17, 2020 05:20 PM (o2vOl)
Give them a Lee in the western theater and maybe McClellan wins in 64....
Albert Sidney Johnston was killed at Shiloh. That hurt badly.
Posted by: The Arch-Fiend Farragut at June 17, 2020 05:20 PM (oMc1W)
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:20 PM (oMc1W)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 17, 2020 05:18 PM (pw+jk)
Let me get this straight. You have a burning sensation when you urinate?
NO man....FIRE shoot out my dick.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 05:20 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (Ve//x)
Congressmen and other assorted aristocrats. They actually made a picnic
of it and brought opera glasses to watch. They thought the north would
easily overwhelm the south.
Seems to me that's something only a supremely over-confident group of people would do.
And the South thought that every Southern soldier was worth 10 Yankees. Both sides were unrealistic, which is usually what causes people to go to war. If you could see things as they'll actually play out, you wouldn't go to war.
Posted by: pep at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (6f16T)
One thing that's easy to overlook now - at that time, the Fed'l Government didn't have nearly that much power, and certainly not that much money. There was no Federal Reserve, there was no way to create money like we do now. The Civil War itself was financed by Treas. Secretary Salmon P. Chase making up a financing system on the fly. Don't see any way the Feds could have come up with the money to do a slave purchase scheme.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM (wCmLp)
Problem is his interpretation changes the intended meaning of the word used in the law.
So under this, the Right to keep and bear arms? Means you get to have short sleeved shirts.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: jsg at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (L4YEI)
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Is he still doing that Love Connection show?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 17, 2020 05:19 PM (Ve//x)
Asshole.
Posted by: Chuck Woolery at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 17, 2020 05:19 PM (oVJmc)
Not necessarily. Plenty of workers were picking cotton even into the early 20th century, and it's likely that slaves would have been shifted to other jobs, especially with westward expansion.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: Anachronda at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (sGtp+)
A man barely alive.
Gentlemen, we can rebuild him.
We have the funding.
We have the capability to build the world's first bionic cuck.
Jonah Goldberg will be that cuck.
Lamer than he was before.
Lamer, weaker, fatter.
Posted by: The Six Million Dollar Newsletter at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (wXhu+)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2020 05:22 PM (mht8P)
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Is he still doing that Love Connection show?
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 17, 2020 05:19 PM (Ve//x)
Wendig is unable to understand 'love'
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 17, 2020 05:22 PM (l4C/z)
Mine too, especially after I eat at Chipotle.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (Ve//x)
I don't eat there because I don't want to die prematurely.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 05:22 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: REDACTED at June 17, 2020 05:22 PM (JgrP5)
Gentlemen, we can rebuild him.
We have the funding.
We have the capability to build the world's first bionic cuck.
Jonah Goldberg will be that cuck.
Lamer than he was before.
Lamer, weaker, fatter.
Posted by: The Six Million Dollar Newsletter at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (wXhu+)
Robocuck
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 05:22 PM (XZTFS)
Posted by: Anachronda at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (sGtp+)
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I guess, like everyone else, they want the alligator to eat them last.
Posted by: bluebell at June 17, 2020 05:23 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2020 05:23 PM (Y8PSl)
So under this, the Right to keep and bear arms? Means you get to have short sleeved shirts.
Freedom of Assembly means you can put together crappy Swedish furniture inside your house.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 17, 2020 05:23 PM (59YkD)
Sure, I understand that. But at that time, we had made the practice of importing slaves illegal. So if the Gov't bought the slaves, the supply would be almost entirely gone.
Additionally, there was a whole lot of un/underemployed people in the South. So if each slave buyout could buy three years labor of a free person, at least that would have given the Southerners a head start on changing their financial structure.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2020 05:23 PM (UW2ZS)
Posted by: PJ at June 17, 2020 05:23 PM (qlTN9)
"Most descendants of the Confederate Armies came from dirt poor families who never came within an inch of owning slaves. Fighting FOR slavery was against their self-interest, so they definitely weren't fighting to keep a perpetual working class that took a lot of their work away from them.
Reading Bud Robertson's biography of Stonewall Jackson was enlightening because he used some data to show the seachange in opinion towards secession in Virginia. It didn't happen when Lincoln won, or when South Carolina seceded, or when Fort Sumter got fired upon. It was when Lincoln called up 70,000 troops. Suddenly the Southern people felt like the North was invading. I get that."
Lincoln's greatest political mistake was asking the governors of the Southern states that had not seceded to provide him with troops rather than remain neutral. Some of the residents of the Southern states still in the Union at that time had immediate relatives who had recently settled Texas and even Alabama and Mississippi. The Corwin Amendments proposed to retain slavery to entice the states to remain in the Union failed because people weren't going to fight their immediate family.
It was a war to establish a nation, which would have resulted in another generation or more of slavery, and that obviously would have been horrible. So I don't knock on Southerners who honor their war dead at all. And frankly, if anyone had a clue the war would last four years and result in such a horrific death and casualty count, it never would have been fought in the first place. The Union assumed it would be a swift and decisive win. It's the great unspoken truth about American history.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 17, 2020 05:23 PM (puu6v)
They also instituted the first Income Tax.
3% between $600 and $10,000 and 5% above that.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2020 05:23 PM (NgKpN)
Yeah, and absent a monetary printing press, any massive structural change like that woulda come with political and constitutional concessions too.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 17, 2020 05:23 PM (+oVP5)
Posted by: Biden the Brilliant at June 17, 2020 05:23 PM (fagTl)
I visited a historic plantation recently and that point was brought up. The North kept up with technology of the time while the South was still using the slave based economy (not to put too fine of a blunt on that).
It would have bankrupted a lot of families to modernize instead of relying on slaves.
Posted by: Blanco at June 17, 2020 05:24 PM (Ay9RF)
I was born and lived most my early life in the south and for the life of me I still have no clue why they hung onto for as long as they did the Democratic party and the idea that the Confederacy was anything but a way for the connected few to get rich off the many who weren't.
Posted by: Boswell at June 17, 2020 05:24 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: Surprise Anal Otter at June 17, 2020 05:24 PM (PbpT7)
My word what is that man not an expert on... other than winning... or satisfying his wife.. or well anything.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 17, 2020 05:24 PM (pw+jk)
Give them a Lee in the western theater and maybe McClellan wins in 64....
Albert Sidney Johnston was killed at Shiloh. That hurt badly.
Posted by: The Arch-Fiend Farragut at June 17, 2020 05:20 PM (oMc1W)
Bragg was an asshole, but he also organized and led the only really successful 'Northern' invasion. He just funked out...to Buell, of all people.
And you had Nathan Bedford Forrest out West.
And Price.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 17, 2020 05:24 PM (l4C/z)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2020 05:24 PM (SjvTs)
Posted by: Blanco at June 17, 2020 05:24 PM (Ay9RF)
Actually they did modernize which ironically caused the need for more slaves.
Thanks Eli Whitney.
Posted by: Biden the Brilliant at June 17, 2020 05:25 PM (fagTl)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 17, 2020 05:26 PM (fagTl)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 17, 2020 05:26 PM (DMoow)
Posted by: 18-1 at June 17, 2020 05:17 PM
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Then we'd have had Grant in the East a year earlier and BOOM! the war is over.
Because Grant was a better General than Lee.
Lee was a master of the battlefield. Grant was a master of Grand Strategy.
Big difference.
Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at June 17, 2020 05:26 PM (T09ml)
Rick Wilson, Never Trumper Douchenozzle: Always follow the money, or lack thereof.
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2020 05:23 PM (Y8PSl)
Well from the photos, it's obvious that he hadn't spent the money on his wardrobe....
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 17, 2020 05:26 PM (EGyGV)
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2020 05:26 PM (bCLt0)
You have leftists ratting out Jews hiding in attics, while Bill Palmer makes the case that conservatives are subhuman and should be relegated to menial labor.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2020 05:26 PM (97lnL)
Mary can be more difficult to pronounce.
Posted by: Diesel Jones at June 17, 2020 05:27 PM (0CeRG)
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:27 PM (oMc1W)
Posted by: Boswell at June 17, 2020 05:24 PM (32YRo)
The agrarian aspects also weren't self-sufficient. Food was imported from the North, the South was heavy cash-crop focused. Caused them a lot of trouble during the war.
Posted by: Someguy at June 17, 2020 05:27 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 05:28 PM (6f16T)
One old New Orleans friend I now find had a dad in politics, who left it due to the corruption ... but one friend of hers has a book, kinda discrediting Lincoln's true intent ... I went back to a Facebook chat to find his name ... I found the time when chatting about the Civil War ... then I see FB removed a link in the (private) chat ... saying it did not conform to their community standards. oh my.
Posted by: illiniwek at June 17, 2020 05:28 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Fringe at June 17, 2020 05:28 PM (vx54i)
Tears shed: Many---due to uncontrollable laughter.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 17, 2020 05:28 PM (WEBkv)
Mary can be more difficult to pronounce.
Posted by: Diesel Jones at June 17, 2020 05:27 PM (0CeRG)
True story!
Posted by: Guy who can't say R's correctly at June 17, 2020 05:28 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 05:22 PM (Zz0t1)
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Speaking of which... if your thoughtful wife says "I brought you sushi," step 1 is PUT IT IN THE FRIDGE if you don't eat it immediately. If you don't, THEN DON'T EAT IT.
Even if it's only been three hours on the counter.
My ass feels like Molly Wilson's after thanking her carboys for the new gazebo she put on Rick's SlavemasterCard.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2020 05:29 PM (wXhu+)
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2020 05:29 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 05:29 PM (XZTFS)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2020 05:29 PM (wXhu+)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 17, 2020 05:29 PM (bkUtD)
Slave holding killed the South long before the civil war - it kept alive an agrarian society that eschewed manufacturing and the development of land for uses other than crops.
An antebellum Southern grandee died. He was dressed in a suit from Massachusetts, his casket was made in Indiana and the headstone was of Vermont marble. The South provided the corpse and the hole in the ground.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2020 05:30 PM (mht8P)
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:30 PM (oMc1W)
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2020 05:30 PM (CeHbE)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 17, 2020 05:30 PM (DMoow)
Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at June 17, 2020 05:26 PM (T09ml)
Grand Strategy is a lot easier when you can replace your dead and wounded while the enemy cannot easily replace its casualties. So, yes, attrition is a Grand Strategy. It's also bloody as hell and almost caused Lincoln to lose the 1864 election.
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (Y8PSl)
Grant knew two things.
North had more manpower to draw on. They could replace Armies even if lost.
North had more manufacturing to draw on, they could replace the equipment of armies as needed.
Given those two factors, it came down to having the will to actually fight.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2020 05:30 PM (mht8P)
That's an A, you racist bastard.
Posted by: Lady A at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (Zz0t1)
The Fiend!
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (oMc1W)
Did that play a part in their calculation about becoming a more industrialized region? Meaning, did they think that it was just too damn hot to be inside a factory in Biloxi in June?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (UW2ZS)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (sWM8x)
Fine.
Ginger was far superior to Maryann, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a damn fool.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 05:21 PM (6f16T)
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Someone needs to tell the mayor that a lot of Black Texans are not particularly keen on Juneteenth anymore.
It's simultaneously the date of freedom for the Texas slaves and a reminder that they were held in slavery longer, perhaps (likely?) deliberately.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (yL25O)
If the North had been more concerned about modernizing and helping the south get past the need for slaves and less being patronizing jerks, they could have worked together on the issue and many would have changed over. Slavery could have been ended peacefully but both sides had to be arrogant and stupid.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (bCLt0)
Funny how that works out huh?
Posted by: f'd at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (XfhKA)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 17, 2020 05:32 PM (mht8P)
Posted by: Someguy at June 17, 2020 05:27 PM (Zm+LZ)
From my vague history recall, tobacco is a super labor intensive and land intensive crop - it depletes the land each harvest or something so they needed more and more land and tons of workers- so the south's reliance on tobacco and cotton (also very labor intensive) were not sustainable long term.
Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2020 05:32 PM (s7jaT)
Maybe so, but allowing the mid-Atlantic and Upper South states to remain neutral and then blockading the Deep South probably would have ended the war in rather short order.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 17, 2020 05:32 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 17, 2020 05:29 PM (bkUtD)
Was he in the room with the black guy in Florida, passed out in the bathroom and no one noticed?
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 05:32 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2020 05:32 PM (97lnL)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 17, 2020 05:30 PM (DMoow
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G-d only knows. Ask my Google Android autocucumber. Prolly some rich guy thing Eric Schmidt hires people for and we don't know exists.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2020 05:32 PM (wXhu+)
ALWAYS WRONG. ALWAYS SURE HE IS RIGHT. NEVER CHANGING.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (pw+jk)
south get past the need for slaves and less being patronizing jerks,
they could have worked together on the issue and many would have changed
over. Slavery could have been ended peacefully but both sides had to
be arrogant and stupid.
Hey, they sound like humans!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - fighting with a dying hard drive at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (SchxB)
Posted by: REDACTED at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (JgrP5)
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2020 05:30 PM (CeHbE)
...
Also Bolton: Trump tried to get North Korea to hand over their nukes in a naked attempt to grab the Korean-American vote.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (yL25O)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (97lnL)
The Fiend!
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (oMc1W)
How DARE he!!!!
Posted by: Very confused adolescent at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (s7jaT)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (DMoow)
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:27 PM (oMc1W)
Some had already done exactly that.
There are Blacks with my same last name, who took that name PRIOR to the Civil War, when they were freed.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (NgKpN)
[looks at 40]
Posted by: Rick Wilson at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (ELgVT)
Maybe so, but allowing the mid-Atlantic and Upper South states to remain neutral and then blockading the Deep South probably would have ended the war in rather short order.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 17, 2020 05:32 PM (puu6v)
I agree with that.
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2020 05:34 PM (bCLt0)
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The Fiend!
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (oMc1W)
Breaking news: My grocer sold me carrots and milk, not out of the goodness of his heart, but to get me to give him money.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2020 05:34 PM (hku12)
Hey, he's down with the struggle... to get free of his zip ties.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 17, 2020 05:34 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 17, 2020 05:30 PM (DMoow
===I'm sure someone here will post a link that you should NOT click, but afaik a carboy is a big glass bottle 5-8 gallons to make beer.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 17, 2020 05:34 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (KZzsI)
The Democrats had basically unilateral control of the government for an extended period of time and were the more dominant party relative to the Whigs for a long time. Arguably the southern general populace had an interest in industrializing but their political class did not. The northern industrialists and bankers did have quite good relations with the southern aristocrats though, so what's old is new.
Posted by: Someguy at June 17, 2020 05:34 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: REDACTED at June 17, 2020 05:35 PM (JgrP5)
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (bCLt0)
Trump boosted people out of poverty in an attempt to use his government position to meddle in the 2020 election!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2020 05:35 PM (97lnL)
Out East..he's a grinder.
But he was aggressive and didn't have any quit in him. He didn't spook or defeat himself.
That's why he was able to use the North's logistic and manpower advantages and why the previous Union Generals could not.
(I do think John Pope, given support and time to know the troops could have excelled)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 17, 2020 05:35 PM (l4C/z)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 17, 2020 05:35 PM (ZZxzD)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 17, 2020 05:29 PM (XZTFS)
You do that, you go to the box, you know. Two minutes. By yourself, you know and you feel shame, you know. And then you get free.
Denis Lemieux, Charlestown Chiefs
Posted by: Archer at June 17, 2020 05:35 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2020 05:30 PM (CeHbE)
...
Also Bolton: Trump tried to get North Korea to hand over their nukes in a naked attempt to grab the Korean-American vote.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (yL25O)
Trump refused to grovel to China in a blatant attempt to steal the Type A vote.
Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2020 05:35 PM (s7jaT)
The Fiend!
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (oMc1W)
LOL more of that please. That's great pro-Trump persuasion because it assigns responsibility for those jobs to Trump - and also a "magic wand" - and that's all anybody dopey will come away with.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2020 05:36 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2020 05:36 PM (ELgVT)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2020 05:37 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 17, 2020 05:37 PM (naEeR)
Posted by: TexasDan at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (yL25O)
If he's not trying to help Trump (and he's not), he may as well be.
Posted by: ... at June 17, 2020 05:37 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 17, 2020 05:37 PM (fagTl)
Yes.. and the medias new darling
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2020 05:37 PM (Zmnko)
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I try not to think about it. Unsuccessfully.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 17, 2020 05:37 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 17, 2020 05:37 PM (ZZxzD)
"The death of George Floyd is unfortunately not an isolated incident."
The debate is underway at the UN headquarters in Geneva. It was requested by the African Group, composed of 54 member states from the African continent.
High Commissioner for Human Rights, Michelle Bachelet, who joined the debate in person, said: "We also need to make amends for centuries of racial discrimination." "Time is of the essence. Patience has run out. Black Lives Matter. Indigenous lives matter."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2020 05:38 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2020 05:37 PM (85Gof)
Probably has a bunch of debt that needs to be paid off. I'm serious, how many of the uniparty live in fear of not making next month's mortgage payment if they fall out of favor?
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at June 17, 2020 05:38 PM (wCmLp)
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (Y8PSl)
Not if you have so many people they won't be missed.
Posted by: China at June 17, 2020 05:38 PM (QID7s)
I was astonished Trump even hired Bolton, who basically opposed each and every aspect of the America First agenda. Whoever recommended Bolton, Wray, and Rosenstein need to feel a boot on their neck(s) in a second term.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 17, 2020 05:38 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: Someguy at June 17, 2020 05:27 PM (Zm+LZ)
Yes - the idea that large areas of land were held by the few and operating the land was needed to sustain the cash flow of the war effort was an unworkable situation - especially in warfare in which holding vast territory matter a lot given the lack of technology and limited tactics.
Posted by: Boswell at June 17, 2020 05:38 PM (32YRo)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2020 05:38 PM (97lnL)
Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (Cxofo)
Posted by: Ripley at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 17, 2020 05:37 PM (fagTl)
Trump got himself impeached in a blatant attempt to secure for himself the anti-impeachment vote.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (hku12)
Posted by: REDACTED at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (JgrP5)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (6f16T)
Posted by: China at June 17, 2020 05:38 PM (QID7s)
Well, you don't have elections, so there's that, too.
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (Y8PSl)
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (Y8PSl)
Not if you have so many people they won't be missed.
Posted by: China at June 17, 2020 05:38 PM (QID7s)
200 million dead DOES make a roomier Gulag, Comrade.
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (bCLt0)
Posted by: Ripley at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (MxEKc)
Who?
Posted by: Don LeMon at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: John Bolton - Modern Solomon at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (H5knJ)
https://tinyurl.com/y99k9pbd
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 17, 2020 05:40 PM (rpbg1)
Posted by: REDACTED at June 17, 2020 05:40 PM (JgrP5)
One thing that stuck out is they have 2 pictures of him with trump and several with Alan Dershowitz and only one (so far) of him with Clinton.
The picture of Epstein and Ghislaine with Trump and Melania is obviously fake because it shows Epstein to be about the same height and size as Trump and Melania, when in the next scene there is video of Epsting walking past Trump and he is clearly no more than 5'8=5"9" at best and slight, like a little Ben Stiller.
Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2020 05:40 PM (s7jaT)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 17, 2020 05:40 PM (SjvTs)
Well, you don't have elections, so there's that, too.
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (Y8PSl)
But Xi is held accountable by his constituents, you know.
Posted by: Michael Bloomberg at June 17, 2020 05:40 PM (Zz0t1)
The debate is underway at the UN headquarters in Geneva. It was requested by the African Group, composed of 54 member states from the African continent.
High Commissioner for Human Rights, Michelle Bachelet, who joined the debate in person, said: "We also need to make amends for centuries of racial discrimination." "Time is of the essence. Patience has run out. Black Lives Matter. Indigenous lives matter."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2020 05:38 PM (aKsyK)
If the U.N. wants to improve black lives, one thing it could do is pull the U.N. out of black areas, where U.N. personnel are rather fond of raping black children.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2020 05:41 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2020 05:41 PM (85Gof)
The National Pulse is today publishing a previously undisclosed "go to" list of "conservative" influencers that Big Tech firm Google uses to influence the political dynamics in Washington, D.C.
* * *
You will only recognize a handful of them and they aren't that surprising.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 17, 2020 05:41 PM (++MjY)
Posted by: China at June 17, 2020 05:38 PM (QID7s)
Well, you don't have elections, so there's that, too."
According to Bloomberg, the Chinese Politburo is highly accountable to its constituents.
Bloomie wasn't even paid to say that, at least directly.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 17, 2020 05:41 PM (puu6v)
https://tinyurl.com/y7h245fe
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 17, 2020 05:41 PM (rpbg1)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2020 05:41 PM (85Gof)
"High Commissioner for Human Rights, Michelle Bachelet, who joined the debate in person, said: "We also need to make amends for centuries of racial discrimination." "
They can start with the French and Italian colonies.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2020 05:41 PM (QID7s)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2020 05:41 PM (85Gof)
Nothing a Snickers Bar wouldn't cure.
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2020 05:42 PM (bCLt0)
billionaires stand to make from a marxist America by the amount of money
they are spending to get there.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy"
Google will have you demonitized if you continue with such hateful speech.
Posted by: Ripley at June 17, 2020 05:42 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: Michael Bloomberg at June 17, 2020 05:40 PM (Zz0t1)
Ah, yes, bon mots from the farming genius.
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2020 05:42 PM (Y8PSl)
Carboys is an odd auto spell.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 17, 2020 05:33 PM (DMoow)
It's Carpeople, you insensitive clod.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 17, 2020 05:42 PM (KnJdm)
In My neck o the woods a little town north of here ran out the Mayor because she didn' think we needed a dialogue about BLM... About 20 showed up to demand it... The sheeple here ran her out
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2020 05:42 PM (Zmnko)
Posted by: REDACTED at June 17, 2020 05:40 PM (JgrP5)
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Good grief, dude. Is someone forcing you to read this blog?
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at June 17, 2020 05:42 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2020 05:42 PM (97lnL)
Posted by: Grump928© at June 17, 2020 05:42 PM (oMc1W)
We are at war
and fucking Ace is mired on humor
fuck you
Posted by: REDACTED at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (JgrP5)
You have issues.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 17, 2020 05:43 PM (fagTl)
The Fiend!
Posted by: Grump928 at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (oMc1W)
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That's not how Never Trumping works. That's not how anything works.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 17, 2020 05:43 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Ripley at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (MxEKc)
Who?
Posted by: Don LeMon at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (Zz0t1)
Who was the third guy who was yucking it up with Don "SMELL MY FINGER" Lemon and Rick "Cuck racist now again a rube" Wilson?
Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2020 05:43 PM (s7jaT)
Posted by: 13times at June 17, 2020 05:43 PM (K3B2k)
Posted by: SMOD at June 17, 2020 05:43 PM (CeHbE)
We are at war
and fucking Ace is mired on humor
fuck you
Posted by: REDACTED at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (JgrP5)
You know what they say, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 17, 2020 05:44 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 17, 2020 05:43 PM (fagTl)
Ah we all have issues. problem is issues don't usually pay so good? Sigh
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2020 05:44 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2020 05:31 PM (Y8PSl)
Meh, not so much. Lincoln beat McClellan 212- 21 in the electoral college and garnered 55% of the popular vote.
Posted by: lurking lurker at June 17, 2020 05:45 PM (bqR7B)
and fucking Ace is mired on humor
fuck you
Posted by: REDACTED at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (JgrP5)
That's out of left field.....
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 05:45 PM (Zz0t1)
You know? You CAN leave willingly. You don't have to force people to kick you out to feed your victim complex. Just take a step back and come back later.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 17, 2020 05:45 PM (KnJdm)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 05:45 PM (6f16T)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 17, 2020 05:45 PM (6FeV1)
Posted by: Give Me a Break at June 17, 2020 05:45 PM (976+d)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 17, 2020 05:38 PM (aKsyK)
So we all will die?
Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2020 05:46 PM (s7jaT)
Posted by: Pork&Pine at June 17, 2020 05:46 PM (4XImJ)
We are at war
and fucking Ace is mired on humor
fuck you
Posted by: REDACTED at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (JgrP5)
We're going to be at war for a very long time, perhaps for the rest of our lives. All soldiers learn that you've got to kick back and find a way to find a little levity along the way, or else you're going to blow a mental fuse.
Yes, we're at war. So strike up a tune, have a beer. The war is still going to be here tomorrow, and the day after.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2020 05:46 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: tubal at June 17, 2020 05:46 PM (bCLt0)
Who was the third guy who was yucking it up with Don "SMELL MY FINGER" Lemon and Rick "Cuck racist now again a rube" Wilson?
Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2020 05:43 PM (s7jaT)
Some asshole.
THIRD BASE!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 05:46 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 05:45 PM (Zz0t1)
I always get the blame.
Assholes.
Posted by: Left Field at June 17, 2020 05:46 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: MAGA at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (N0rAw)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2020 05:46 PM (Kpl3J)
Well said.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (KnJdm)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (59YkD)
Posted by: 13times at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (K3B2k)
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (xptlg)
Posted by: Braenyard at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (QID7s)
Hum, yeah, maybe...but a lot more isolated than police on white fatalities or Black on black Fatalities. How'd ya like them apples
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (Zmnko)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (6f16T)
Loyola University in New Orleans, is the target of a petition to get him
fired:
The idiot behind the petition thinks being blind is a race.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: MAGA at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (N0rAw)
Ace was also not a Trump guy early on, but managed to keep an open mind and go all batshit ORANGEMANBAD crazy.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 05:48 PM (Zz0t1)
We are at war
and fucking Ace is mired on humor
fuck you
Posted by: REDACTED at June 17, 2020 05:39 PM (JgrP5)
You have issues.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 17, 2020 05:43 PM (fagT
We all have issues right now. Levity helps.
Posted by: LASue at June 17, 2020 05:48 PM (s7jaT)
Posted by: MAGA at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (N0rAw)
Rick Wilson is Chemjeff?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 17, 2020 05:48 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 05:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Suicide by ban hammer!
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 17, 2020 05:48 PM (+oVP5)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (oVJmc)
That's very racist to point that out.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 17, 2020 05:48 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 05:49 PM (6f16T)
Posted by: Jewells45 at June 17, 2020 05:49 PM (dUJdY)
I wonder how pllice forces round the world do in killing unarmed civilians.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 05:45 PM (6f16T)
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I'd guess... it depends.
I mean, I'm guessing you really don't want to piss off a Liberian cop. Especially if he's feeling peckish.
But in Western Europe? Jay-zus. It's almost sad really. They're like a gay version of the Cub Scouts.
I guess their docile, low-t, decadent post-Christian populace is easily controlled, because seeing a German or French cop as an American requires that you stifle your laughter. Just to be polite, though. Not because you're afraid.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 17, 2020 05:49 PM (wXhu+)
Posted by: Adriane the Arizona Gardening Critic ... at June 17, 2020 05:50 PM (LPnfS)
Many more instances like this, please.
Posted by: lazlong at June 17, 2020 05:50 PM (7XjsU)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
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You will be made to care.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 17, 2020 05:50 PM (vOGqy)
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 05:51 PM (6f16T)
Lesson that MUST BE REPEATED: Never Trust a Neo-Con.
If they come from the Bush administration it should be a big red flag. If they come from the inside Washington crowd, it should be a big red flag. The city and its political elite are rotten.
Posted by: William Eaton at June 17, 2020 05:51 PM (cfkTP)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 17, 2020 05:51 PM (7Fj9P)
Posted by: lurking lurker at June 17, 2020 05:45 PM (bqR7B)
Sherman's taking Atlanta helped secure that presidential win. Prior to the victory at Atlanta, the election could have gone either way. The Northern population was getting very tired of the lengthy casualty lists, war weariness if you will. Atlanta was a light at the end of a dark tunnel.
Posted by: RickZ at June 17, 2020 05:51 PM (Y8PSl)
That punk Gabe comes to mind.
Posted by: 13times at June 17, 2020 05:51 PM (K3B2k)
About 18 unarmed black men die due to police activity a year. In a country of 300,000,000.
In Chicago, 187 black men were shot by other black men between the TWO police shootings this year.
The police ain't the problem. They ain't perfect, but they ain't the problem.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at June 17, 2020 05:52 PM (naEeR)
Posted by: The Greys at June 17, 2020 05:53 PM (FtO5h)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 17, 2020 05:32 PM (97lnL)
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Some holidays serve that purpose.
But most often the holidays serve to force the people to celebrate and applaud fascist leaders and ideology.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 17, 2020 05:54 PM (M/9m0)
I remember reading a story about Iwo Jima, some marines were in fox holes, under heavy fire. One japanese attacker carrying a satchel charge was shot down right next to a foxhole, and when his satchel bomb went off, it blew his body to bits, as well as stunning the marines in their foxhole just a few feet a away. The torso of the dead jap had all its clothes blown off and landed, ass facing up, in the lap of one of the marines. Coming to, the marine looked down, saw what he thought was his own ass facing him, and shrieked "Oh my god!!! am I hit that bad????"
the teller of the tale said that, in spite of being under constant machine gun and grenade fire, everyone in earshot laughed so hard that they were completely useless for the next 5 minutes or so!
and that's how we humans survive hard times.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 17, 2020 05:55 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: jsg at June 17, 2020 05:56 PM (L4YEI)
Posted by: MAGA at June 17, 2020 05:47 PM (N0rAw)
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At one time I trusted Bush & Co. to run a war and it turned out I was wrong. We try to do the right thing based on the information we had at the time. There has been a lot of new information and learning in the last 20 years.
Posted by: William Eaton at June 17, 2020 06:00 PM (cfkTP)
45 policemen were killed in line of duty, 41others in traffic accidents also in 2019.
Posted by: Skip at June 17, 2020 06:02 PM (6f16T)
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Posted by: eleven at June 17, 2020 06:08 PM (Qf83p)
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Boy. Howdy.
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