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Gun Thread: Sunday Evening Edition! [Weasel]
Well I Guess We Showed Them!
Sporterized M1917
So in last week's awsome cinematic masterpiece on the M1917, I mentioned how it was a common practice to "sporterize" military rifles for civilian use, particularly bolt action rifles like the '03 Springfield and the Model of 1917. To be brutally honest, I'd always considered the practice to be a little bit of a tragedy when these old classic rifles were changed from their original configuration. I guess it was something of a sense of historical loss.
Your post about the Model 1917 and how many were sporterized, prompted me to share a picture of my Eddystone. It had been used in WWI and my Grandfather had it stored away in an old shed. It was in pretty bad shape and when he passed away, my father decided to sporterize it. He never completed it and by the time he passed away, it was a rusted hulk with really only the action worth salvaging. I decided to finish it in memory of them both and here is the result.
This, guys and gals, is how that is done. What a beautiful rifle and remarkable tribute to Holly's father and grandfather! I would probably still not convert a pristine military rifle if for no other reason than I have watched too many episodes of the Antiques Roadshow, but the result in this case is amazing. Very, very nice, Holly, and thanks for sharing!!
- Forged bolt handle
- Lilja magnum barrel
- Extra Fancy grade black walnut stock
- Straightened floor plate
- Bedded action
- Fresh bluing
- Decelerator butt pad
- Nikon 6 X 26 Monarch UCC scope
- Huber anti-friction match grade trigger
Well if you thought the Chinese Cooties were good for gun sales, just throw in a little civil unrest and rioting to really get things going! May 2020 gun sales set records, as reported here, here and here. I can't help but wonder how many of these are first time gun owners, and people who have previously been uninterested in guns and self defense. Let's just hope this causes people to think about the topic now that they've come to the dark side and cause a favorable shift in gun ownership sentiment.
Last week I also mentioned buying a pair of Oakley shooting glasses and used them for the first time shooting the M1917 with positive results. The Oakley's were pricey at $100, and I suspect most of that price was due to the little 'O' on the frames. At the same time I ordered the those, I also ordered a $24 pair of clear bifocal safety glasses from Readers.com with +3.0 magnification, thinking they would be good to use shooting handguns. Unfortunately I think the bifocal part is too small, and because of the lens design, too far down to be of much use in that application. Still, the clear lenses are every bit as optically clear as the Oakley's at about one quarter the cost. The Oakley's are definitely made of sturdier material, but overall I'm not disappointed with the readers.com product.
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Here is the spotter setup I assembled after I figured out what I wanted. I found a new Leupold Mk IV M151 Scout Sniper Observation Telescope 12-40x85 with mil ranging reticle, and added a Kinetic M-loc rollcage and my Vortex range finder, co-witnessed to the scope. Red Dot for quick-aim and the Kestrel Elite 5700 Weather and Ballistics calculator. The scope is mounted to a Manfrotto 410 geared head with pan, tilt and elevation on top of a Manfrotto 190CXPRO4 Carbon Fiber 65" tripod. Makes for a solid sturdy set-up and I like the M151 which has a 30 mil vertical reticle for watching and calling trace. Also, the Carbon Fiber tripod vibrates less than an aluminum one after a shot as you are sitting behind a shooter.
Comments
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Gfeuer!
Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2020 07:01 PM (6f16T)
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Holly, that is an absolutely beautiful rifle! and DBCooper, are you lasing targets for the military in your spare time? LOL
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 07, 2020 07:03 PM (uyKdz)
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Good evening, y'all.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 07:03 PM (7EjX1)
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The 'g' shouldn't be there.
Corgis and gun enthusiasts called btw
Corgis and gun enthusiasts called btw
Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2020 07:04 PM (6f16T)
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Nice gubs!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -YOU are all in this together!- at June 07, 2020 07:04 PM (mMLSg)
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GUNZZZ!!!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 07:04 PM (NWiLs)
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Allow us to pause for a few moments to appreciate the rich history and varied cultural significance of black rifles.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Shouldn't we say cops are mostly peaceful? at June 07, 2020 07:05 PM (UwWe5)
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HA! in the top 20.
Evening, horde.
I picked up a new red dot sight for one of the riflez, will get it dialed in this week.
Evening, horde.
I picked up a new red dot sight for one of the riflez, will get it dialed in this week.
Posted by: Grog at June 07, 2020 07:05 PM (weXmt)
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Weird formatting in the list of improvements Holly made to his rifle. I blame me.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:06 PM (MVjcR)
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ESS. Built for battle.
Posted by: Derak at June 07, 2020 07:06 PM (BMFHr)
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Gunsmithing & cleaning mostly shares the workbenches I use for electronics and light metal/plastic/wood working.
Building a bench in the basement for starting to reload when I get back from next week's surgery.
range report next
Building a bench in the basement for starting to reload when I get back from next week's surgery.
range report next
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 07:07 PM (0IMgo)
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No Little Joe
No peace.
No peace.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 07, 2020 07:08 PM (sGotD)
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That is a beautiful rifle, suppose if in bad shape, and you are going to use it why not. My BiL took a antique rifle of his grandfather ( but not owned by him) and had the barrel reblued and stock finished. Heard my FiL flipped the fk out. On the other hand my FiL brought back from war a P-38 and had it chrome finish destroying its worth.
Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2020 07:09 PM (6f16T)
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12 No Little Joe
No peace.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 07, 2020 07:08 PM (sGotD)
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Ha! He grrrrrrrrrrrred at his big sister today!
No peace.
Posted by: IrishEi at June 07, 2020 07:08 PM (sGotD)
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Ha! He grrrrrrrrrrrred at his big sister today!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:09 PM (MVjcR)
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"May 2020 gun sales set records, as reported here, here and here. I can't help but wonder how many of these are first time gun owners, and people who have previously been uninterested in guns and self defense."
Local shop/range has been limiting people to 10 in the store, due to the dread pox. Also so they can keep a handle on who's there and whether they have the first clue what they're doing. Apparently they've been shutting down a lot of straw purchases that go like:
"Glock 21 Gen 4, please."
*sets Colt Gold Cup on counter*
"There you go."
"Looks good, I'll take it."
"The hell you will."
There's already been one ND in the parking lot.
Local shop/range has been limiting people to 10 in the store, due to the dread pox. Also so they can keep a handle on who's there and whether they have the first clue what they're doing. Apparently they've been shutting down a lot of straw purchases that go like:
"Glock 21 Gen 4, please."
*sets Colt Gold Cup on counter*
"There you go."
"Looks good, I'll take it."
"The hell you will."
There's already been one ND in the parking lot.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:09 PM (t+qrx)
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Picked up my S&W 637 on Friday. I dithered between it and the 642 for a week before settling on the exposed hammer. It just looks better, and I like having the option of single action on the range. All in all, I'm pleased with my new snubbie.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at June 07, 2020 07:09 PM (bAe71)
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Ha. Just looked. ESS owned by Oakley.
Posted by: Derak at June 07, 2020 07:09 PM (BMFHr)
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Bang!
got some 30-06 ammo arriving tomorrow. some of it's going in the Garand clips and bandoleers i received the other day, and then they are going a nice young man we know who *isn't* a raving moonbat idiot, as so many of his age are.
got some 30-06 ammo arriving tomorrow. some of it's going in the Garand clips and bandoleers i received the other day, and then they are going a nice young man we know who *isn't* a raving moonbat idiot, as so many of his age are.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 07:10 PM (5RpHt)
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There's already been one ND in the parking lot.
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Why aren't these people just ordering them through the mail or in the gun show loophole?
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Why aren't these people just ordering them through the mail or in the gun show loophole?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Shouldn't we say cops are mostly peaceful? at June 07, 2020 07:11 PM (UwWe5)
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anyone know where to find a manual for a Weaver Qwik Point? one came with my new to me Thompson Contender?
looked around on line a bit, but came up blank...
looked around on line a bit, but came up blank...
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 07:12 PM (5RpHt)
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Yay, weasel's Sunday gun thread! I've got to get my 20 gauge cleaned and run a box of shells thru it this week
Posted by: Zeera at June 07, 2020 07:12 PM (sUh98)
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In and out for the next little while. No rioting while I'm gone.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Shouldn't we say cops are mostly peaceful? at June 07, 2020 07:13 PM (UwWe5)
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 07, 2020 07:13 PM (NcTjl)
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Damn! That M1917 is gorgeous! Beautiful work done to well thought out modifications. Thanks for sharing that.
I'm glad my M1917, made in 1918, can't see the photo. The poor thing would probably develop stock envy.
I'm glad my M1917, made in 1918, can't see the photo. The poor thing would probably develop stock envy.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 07:13 PM (7EjX1)
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Hi Horde,
Long time lurker, second time poster.
Long time pistol shooter, zero time rifle shooter. I'm looking for suggestions for AR-15 style weapon. I'll also be getting training on whatever weapon I buy, as I'm not familiar with long guns of any sort. I'd like to stay under $1000 if possible. I see AR-15s use the 5.56 NATO round, so the ammo should be easy to obtain. Perhaps there are good rifles that don't break the bank, but will deter antifa types. What's the Horde's wisdom?
Long time lurker, second time poster.
Long time pistol shooter, zero time rifle shooter. I'm looking for suggestions for AR-15 style weapon. I'll also be getting training on whatever weapon I buy, as I'm not familiar with long guns of any sort. I'd like to stay under $1000 if possible. I see AR-15s use the 5.56 NATO round, so the ammo should be easy to obtain. Perhaps there are good rifles that don't break the bank, but will deter antifa types. What's the Horde's wisdom?
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:14 PM (YWBlw)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:14 PM (03xwg)
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Helped my friend and his wife purchase their first handguns. ( it was the wife's request) . Ended up getting her the S&W 9mm Shield EZ and him the Glock 19 ( on back order, everyone is out as they shut down their factory) . The EZ was named so because it was designed to be easy to rack the slide and load the mags. Obviously marketed to the beginning female demographic. Shoots very nice.
On another note , after the 'destroy Hi Point ' vid I decided to break out my .45 Hi Point anvil and shoot it along with my Glock 21. Surprisingly the grouping at 7 yards was as tight as the 21. Not bad for a disposable $199 gun ( at the time) .
On another note , after the 'destroy Hi Point ' vid I decided to break out my .45 Hi Point anvil and shoot it along with my Glock 21. Surprisingly the grouping at 7 yards was as tight as the 21. Not bad for a disposable $199 gun ( at the time) .
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 07:14 PM (2DOZq)
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As a surplus collector, I have returned a few rifles to their original military trim.
One look at that work done by Holly and I am impressed.
He took a pick up truck and made it into a Ferrari.
Well Done Sir!
One look at that work done by Holly and I am impressed.
He took a pick up truck and made it into a Ferrari.
Well Done Sir!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 07, 2020 07:15 PM (Z+IKu)
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Yay! Gubs!
Most impressive rig I saw all week was that sniper rifle being carried by a secret service agent last Sunday.
Some one ID'd it, but it was nothing I was familiar with.
Most impressive rig I saw all week was that sniper rifle being carried by a secret service agent last Sunday.
Some one ID'd it, but it was nothing I was familiar with.
Posted by: navybrat, waiting by the door with a 2 x 4 at June 07, 2020 07:15 PM (w7KSn)
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When I was getting my Ruger SR22 from Sportsman's Warehouse back in late March, I was talking with the gal behind the counter. I asked if they had been getting a lot of first timers and she said yep. When I asked her how many were shocked that they had to wait for the background checks to come back before the could pick up the gun, she said "All of them." Most of them figured they could just walk in, buy a gun, and walk out. But that's also what the MFM has told them for the last two decades.
By late March, CO had a backlog of 14,000 4473's to go through. It took mine a week, usually a 30 minute thing.
By late March, CO had a backlog of 14,000 4473's to go through. It took mine a week, usually a 30 minute thing.
Posted by: Old Blue at June 07, 2020 07:15 PM (VNmG1)
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Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:14 PM (YWBlw)
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Howdy and welcome!, Now sit back, relax and watch the suggestions start pouring in!
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Howdy and welcome!, Now sit back, relax and watch the suggestions start pouring in!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:16 PM (MVjcR)
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Why aren't these people just ordering them through the mail or in the gun show loophole?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Shouldn't we say cops are mostly peaceful? at June 07, 2020 07:11 PM (UwWe5)
I wish they hadn't closed the MI CPL loophole.
We used to be exempt from NICS checks with a carry permit, but there was an ATF letter in March that did away with that. Some vague statement alluding to CPL holders who would not have passed NICS checks (was the state not properly doing background checks for CPL? I have no idea) and another about how MI allows recreational weed but it's still illegal federally.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Shouldn't we say cops are mostly peaceful? at June 07, 2020 07:11 PM (UwWe5)
I wish they hadn't closed the MI CPL loophole.
We used to be exempt from NICS checks with a carry permit, but there was an ATF letter in March that did away with that. Some vague statement alluding to CPL holders who would not have passed NICS checks (was the state not properly doing background checks for CPL? I have no idea) and another about how MI allows recreational weed but it's still illegal federally.Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:16 PM (t+qrx)
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27 ... " I decided to break out my .45 Hi Point anvil and shoot it along with my Glock 21. Surprisingly the grouping at 7 yards was as tight as the 21. Not bad for a disposable $199 gun ( at the time) ."
My Hi Point 45 looks like a clunky, Frankenpistol and has lousy, top heavy balance. But it has been completely reliable and decently accurate.
My Hi Point 45 looks like a clunky, Frankenpistol and has lousy, top heavy balance. But it has been completely reliable and decently accurate.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 07:17 PM (7EjX1)
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Perhaps there are good rifles that don't break the bank, but will deter antifa types. What's the Horde's wisdom?
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:14 PM
for an easy enter to the AR game, you can't go wrong with getting a rifle kit from Palmetto State Armory
you can put together a decent shooter for under $500; drive it around, see what you like or don't
it's the second AR what gets expensive
Perhaps there are good rifles that don't break the bank, but will deter antifa types. What's the Horde's wisdom?
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:14 PM
for an easy enter to the AR game, you can't go wrong with getting a rifle kit from Palmetto State Armory
you can put together a decent shooter for under $500; drive it around, see what you like or don't
it's the second AR what gets expensive
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 07, 2020 07:18 PM (NcTjl)
Posted by: JT at June 07, 2020 07:19 PM (arJlL)
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Tropical rain bands here on the Gulf Coast so no range joy at all for the weekend.
I wish they hadn't closed the MI CPL loophole. We used to be exempt from NICS checks with a carry permit, but there was an ATF letter in March that did away with that.
Alabama lost it's safe harbor last year thanks to sheriffs in the Black Belt. It is terribly annoying as I am delayed two out every three purchases.
I wish they hadn't closed the MI CPL loophole. We used to be exempt from NICS checks with a carry permit, but there was an ATF letter in March that did away with that.
Alabama lost it's safe harbor last year thanks to sheriffs in the Black Belt. It is terribly annoying as I am delayed two out every three purchases.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 07, 2020 07:19 PM (yQpMk)
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Range report, it's been too long between winter, road closed, area shut down and Flu Manchu but...
I suck.
Took my S&W 457 out. Took my five magazines to get my desired results.
7 rounds center mass at 10 yards. Once I had three magazines in that bag I figured I sucked less.
Practice and ammo.
Ammo availability report.
I went to Post Falls, ID with a friend Friday. Stopped at Cabela's there, which is open. The closest one to me in Central WA is drive up pick up only still.
They had a few boxes of .22 LR. some 9 MM and very little else although shotgun ammo was still well stocked.
Every common pistol round and except for .500 is gone. Every rifle round below .464 is gone.
They're selling it as it hits teh shelves.
I suck.
Took my S&W 457 out. Took my five magazines to get my desired results.
7 rounds center mass at 10 yards. Once I had three magazines in that bag I figured I sucked less.
Practice and ammo.
Ammo availability report.
I went to Post Falls, ID with a friend Friday. Stopped at Cabela's there, which is open. The closest one to me in Central WA is drive up pick up only still.
They had a few boxes of .22 LR. some 9 MM and very little else although shotgun ammo was still well stocked.
Every common pistol round and except for .500 is gone. Every rifle round below .464 is gone.
They're selling it as it hits teh shelves.
Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at June 07, 2020 07:19 PM (d9Irc)
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Just fired up a Romeo y Julieta Maduro and have a cup of coffee out on the deck. Beautiful evening.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:20 PM (MVjcR)
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Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:14 PM (YWBlw)
I'm an advocate of pistol caliber carbines that use the same mags as the handgun you carry. The Ruger PC and KelTec 2000 can use various model magazines.
I'm an advocate of pistol caliber carbines that use the same mags as the handgun you carry. The Ruger PC and KelTec 2000 can use various model magazines.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 07:20 PM (2DOZq)
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637 is a nice piece.
My carry is a Performance Center 637 with a bobbed hammer and (apparently) DAO internals ... I missed the SA option for a while but have accommodated over the years.
Bought it because of the s m o o t h trigger.
My carry is a Performance Center 637 with a bobbed hammer and (apparently) DAO internals ... I missed the SA option for a while but have accommodated over the years.
Bought it because of the s m o o t h trigger.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 07:20 PM (0IMgo)
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I'm looking for suggestions for AR-15 style weapon. I'll also be getting training on whatever weapon I buy, as I'm not familiar with long guns of any sort. I'd like to stay under $1000 if possible.
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:14 PM (YWBlw)
I think the S&W M&P 15 would fit the bill here. Its around $600 MSRP, which leaves you a decent bit for ammo, mags, sling, and other accoutrements. It's ready to go out of the box, with a fixed front post and a Magpul flip-up rear sight (in the configurations I've seen), so you can add a mount and optics later but you aren't starting with a completely slick flattop with no iron sights. You can get nicer and you can get cheaper, but that looks like the sweet spot for entry level, and you don't have to get into the Gun Legos hobby to get one.
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:14 PM (YWBlw)
I think the S&W M&P 15 would fit the bill here. Its around $600 MSRP, which leaves you a decent bit for ammo, mags, sling, and other accoutrements. It's ready to go out of the box, with a fixed front post and a Magpul flip-up rear sight (in the configurations I've seen), so you can add a mount and optics later but you aren't starting with a completely slick flattop with no iron sights. You can get nicer and you can get cheaper, but that looks like the sweet spot for entry level, and you don't have to get into the Gun Legos hobby to get one.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:21 PM (t+qrx)
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Occasionally get to work at a local gun shop, line still 25 deep out the door when I go passed it. Not sure who is the best gun sellers, Democrats or Antifa ?
Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2020 07:21 PM (6f16T)
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Looking at the weather for this Friday. Looks like it will be a go to take the day off and head to the range.I hope to finally zero in my .308.As I cannot bring my Sig over State lines (stupid NYC laws) I will have to put taking that out for a run until I can get out to a NY range.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at June 07, 2020 07:21 PM (uyKdz)
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Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 07:17 PM (7EjX1)
Mine is desert camo which makes it look half decent. Well like a pig with lipstick.
Mine is desert camo which makes it look half decent. Well like a pig with lipstick.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 07:22 PM (2DOZq)
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How about you all? Do you have a spacious, clean and organized place for your gun hobby, or are you a mess like me?
I wouldn't call it spacious, but I've made myself a 4'x8' desk out of a 1" thick hardwood sheet of plywood. I used decorative 4x4 fence posts turned purty side down for the legs and i cut the length of the legs to my comfortable working height. Sanded the top and painted it gawd awful purple so I could see my blued pistol parts better. It's also easier to see itty bitty electronic parts too. I keep a hobby mat handy for setting parts on that I don't want to run away. My cleaning supplies are on a shelf right above my work space. PC and good speakers for tunes are off to the side. This is my man cave, and it's one of the five bedrooms in the house so its mine-all-mine. Custom built the closet out to be my arms room. Shelves for ammo, shelves for pistols, rack for long guns is planned, but not finished. I even have a single bed in there for when I've pissed off Smash so that I have a place to sleep.
I wouldn't call it spacious, but I've made myself a 4'x8' desk out of a 1" thick hardwood sheet of plywood. I used decorative 4x4 fence posts turned purty side down for the legs and i cut the length of the legs to my comfortable working height. Sanded the top and painted it gawd awful purple so I could see my blued pistol parts better. It's also easier to see itty bitty electronic parts too. I keep a hobby mat handy for setting parts on that I don't want to run away. My cleaning supplies are on a shelf right above my work space. PC and good speakers for tunes are off to the side. This is my man cave, and it's one of the five bedrooms in the house so its mine-all-mine. Custom built the closet out to be my arms room. Shelves for ammo, shelves for pistols, rack for long guns is planned, but not finished. I even have a single bed in there for when I've pissed off Smash so that I have a place to sleep.
Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at June 07, 2020 07:22 PM (VcFUs)
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Allow us to pause for a few moments to appreciate the rich history and varied cultural significance of black rifles.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Shouldn't we say cops are mostly peaceful? at June 07, 2020 07:05 PM
Black rifles matter!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Shouldn't we say cops are mostly peaceful? at June 07, 2020 07:05 PM
Black rifles matter!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 07, 2020 07:23 PM (rBtIz)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:23 PM (MVjcR)
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Dad brought back a Japanese Arisaka type 99 back from Okinawa. It was stored in a wooden crate for years in the basement as us kids grew up.
He picked it up in a cave that had been blasted by his tank earlier. So it wasn't in the best condition. It still had the chrysanthemum over the breach.
Dad eventually let me handle it and agreed to let me clean it up because of battle damage and no care for 30+ years.
It cleaned up well and blued plus resanded the wood and used linseed oil as the stain. Turned out gorgeous but I kind of wished I left as is since it was a historical piece of equipment.
He picked it up in a cave that had been blasted by his tank earlier. So it wasn't in the best condition. It still had the chrysanthemum over the breach.
Dad eventually let me handle it and agreed to let me clean it up because of battle damage and no care for 30+ years.
It cleaned up well and blued plus resanded the wood and used linseed oil as the stain. Turned out gorgeous but I kind of wished I left as is since it was a historical piece of equipment.
Posted by: Beartooth at June 07, 2020 07:23 PM (fpc+A)
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Weasel, funny thing, I have 2 lb Timney on my .243.
Unreal, the break on that trigger. Clean and crisp with no takeup.
Also, I have ordered, and am looking forward to receiving, an S&W 686 Plus with appropriate speed loaders.
I expect it will be fun, lighting up some steel with that bad boy
I intend to stick to 38 Special +P, as that is the same load I use in my Taurus. (The Taurus snubbie shoots great with 38 Special +P, not so great with 357 Magnum loads.)
Most excellent thread again, Weasel Dude!
Unreal, the break on that trigger. Clean and crisp with no takeup.
Also, I have ordered, and am looking forward to receiving, an S&W 686 Plus with appropriate speed loaders.
I expect it will be fun, lighting up some steel with that bad boy
I intend to stick to 38 Special +P, as that is the same load I use in my Taurus. (The Taurus snubbie shoots great with 38 Special +P, not so great with 357 Magnum loads.)
Most excellent thread again, Weasel Dude!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:23 PM (WEBkv)
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The sporterized model of 1917 is beautiful! The black walnut stock makes it an artwork, IMO.
Ammo bought, because range is open again. Thank God for it. I love the sounds (heard from my house) and it gives my husband something fun and practical to do.
Ammo bought, because range is open again. Thank God for it. I love the sounds (heard from my house) and it gives my husband something fun and practical to do.
Posted by: CN at June 07, 2020 07:24 PM (ONvIw)
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What's the best way to store ammo and how long can it be expected to last under different storage methods?
Thanks Morons!
Thanks Morons!
Posted by: Dalton L Chandler II at June 07, 2020 07:24 PM (YuN8K)
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Where's Weasel Dog and his younger brother?
To heck with that gorgeous sporterized rifle.
To heck with that gorgeous sporterized rifle.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 07:24 PM (81P5W)
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Semi gun related, as mine are currently loaded and sitting within reach.
Last night, just after dark, there was suddenly a number of cars and motorcycles running all over my little town. There were a lot of Fireworks being thrown from cars, and early on what sounded like gunshots (yes, I know the difference.
Music being loudly played? Rap.
Went on for about 3 hours, and at times they were within 1/2 block of my house.
Not a Police siren Heard during those hours.
Then right about 11, I heard an argument going on, yelling at the tops of their lungs.
The last thing I heard, was 'get the F$#K out of here N%g#rs'.
Everything got really quiet after that. Cars quietly left.
Note, my little town is in Central Calif, about 1 hour from Stockton, 2 hours from the Bay Area.
It is 65% Hispanic.
I'll let you all draw your own conclusions, but things are getting sporty.
Last night, just after dark, there was suddenly a number of cars and motorcycles running all over my little town. There were a lot of Fireworks being thrown from cars, and early on what sounded like gunshots (yes, I know the difference.
Music being loudly played? Rap.
Went on for about 3 hours, and at times they were within 1/2 block of my house.
Not a Police siren Heard during those hours.
Then right about 11, I heard an argument going on, yelling at the tops of their lungs.
The last thing I heard, was 'get the F$#K out of here N%g#rs'.
Everything got really quiet after that. Cars quietly left.
Note, my little town is in Central Calif, about 1 hour from Stockton, 2 hours from the Bay Area.
It is 65% Hispanic.
I'll let you all draw your own conclusions, but things are getting sporty.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2020 07:25 PM (NgKpN)
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Now they got white people washing the feet of BLM organizers.
https://twitter.com/JasonFuhrmann3/status/1269493917130666049/photo/1
https://twitter.com/JasonFuhrmann3/status/1269493917130666049/photo/1
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at June 07, 2020 07:25 PM (af5xa)
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Remington sold 1917s they had after the war, as Model 30S with cutdown stocks and shortened barrels. Highly desirable for custom rifles in magnum calibers because the actions are so strong. I restored my 30S to a classic 1930s configuration big game rifle.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade a fucking ray of sunshine at June 07, 2020 07:25 PM (bML9A)
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Long time pistol shooter, zero time rifle shooter. I'm looking for suggestions for AR-15 style weapon. I'll also be getting training on whatever weapon I buy, as I'm not familiar with long guns of any sort. I'd like to stay under $1000 if possible. I see AR-15s use the 5.56 NATO round, so the ammo should be easy to obtain. Perhaps there are good rifles that don't break the bank, but will deter antifa types. What's the Horde's wisdom?
Take a look at the S&W M&P 15. Nicely made rifle that will set you back less than $700. The Ruger and Mossberg are good inexpensive entry level choices as well.
Take a look at the S&W M&P 15. Nicely made rifle that will set you back less than $700. The Ruger and Mossberg are good inexpensive entry level choices as well.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at June 07, 2020 07:26 PM (bAe71)
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Dry place. Long (really long) shelf life.
Posted by: JAS at June 07, 2020 07:26 PM (2BZBZ)
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Ammo will store a long time, if conditions aren't too humid or damp.
Posted by: navybrat, waiting by the door with a 2 x 4 at June 07, 2020 07:26 PM (w7KSn)
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 07:26 PM (Z4rgH)
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Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:23 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks man!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:23 PM (WEBkv)
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Thanks man!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:26 PM (MVjcR)
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Just fired up a Romeo y Julieta Maduro and have a cup of coffee out on the deck. Beautiful evening.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:20 PM
Good man. It was a cigar evening here at the Fortress of Legal Solitude as well. After a hot sticky Friday and Saturday, today was cool, dry and sunny. And the first day I could get physically back to church in months. A fine Sunday.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:20 PM
Good man. It was a cigar evening here at the Fortress of Legal Solitude as well. After a hot sticky Friday and Saturday, today was cool, dry and sunny. And the first day I could get physically back to church in months. A fine Sunday.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 07, 2020 07:26 PM (rBtIz)
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Best part of my tennis game was making a contact with an ammo wholesale rep. I just got a 1000 rd case of 9mm at cost . $210.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 07:26 PM (2DOZq)
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Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:21 PM (t+qrx)
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Listen to this guy!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:23 PM (MVjcR)
Unless you don't mind Gun Legos, in which case AltonJackson is also right. I just err on the side of less assembly required if it's for someone who doesn't already do AR. Not that assembly is hard, more so you don't accidentally SBR.
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Listen to this guy!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:23 PM (MVjcR)
Unless you don't mind Gun Legos, in which case AltonJackson is also right. I just err on the side of less assembly required if it's for someone who doesn't already do AR. Not that assembly is hard, more so you don't accidentally SBR.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:26 PM (t+qrx)
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Just got back from academy sports and they had hardly any ammo and guns. Shotgun shells mostly. Limit 5 on all boxes, all kinds.
Posted by: NCKate at June 07, 2020 07:27 PM (6LlJs)
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Hey Weasel, have you ever tried a 2-stage LaRue MBT trigger? Pretty damn impressive for $89.
Posted by: PacosMojo at June 07, 2020 07:27 PM (NUMhV)
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52 Where's Weasel Dog and his younger brother?
To heck with that gorgeous sporterized rifle.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 07:24 PM (81P5W)
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WDv2 has to wait for his turn in the Pet Thread like everyone else!
To heck with that gorgeous sporterized rifle.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 07:24 PM (81P5W)
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WDv2 has to wait for his turn in the Pet Thread like everyone else!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:27 PM (03xwg)
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Speaking of the Model 1917. I checked the remington serial numbers. Mine was made in 1918. It's in as issued condition except for the rear sight. A previous owner replaced it with a peep sight adjustable for windage and elevation. I haven't had a chance to test it out yet but it should help with my aging eyes. We'll find out.
BTW, I did a good cleaning of it today. Just doing gun maintenance is soothing. While the bore is not like a mirror, it is on the shiney side and the rifling is sharp. A few passes with Hoppe's made a big difference.
Also, I tried the TW25B greaseon the bolt as Weasel mentioned last week. What a difference! That bolt slides many times easier than before the lube. Can't wait to see how it does with lever actions and on the arbor of cap and ball revolvers. That lube ain't cheap but it really works.
BTW, I did a good cleaning of it today. Just doing gun maintenance is soothing. While the bore is not like a mirror, it is on the shiney side and the rifling is sharp. A few passes with Hoppe's made a big difference.
Also, I tried the TW25B greaseon the bolt as Weasel mentioned last week. What a difference! That bolt slides many times easier than before the lube. Can't wait to see how it does with lever actions and on the arbor of cap and ball revolvers. That lube ain't cheap but it really works.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 07:28 PM (7EjX1)
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Holly's rifle makes me just want to pick it up and hold it.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (MxIn6)
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51 What's the best way to store ammo and how long can it be expected to last under different storage methods?
Thanks Morons!
Posted by: Dalton L Chandler II at June 07, 2020 07:24 PM (YuN8K)
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Stable temp and controlled humidity and it lasts decades. I was shooting surplus ammo made in the sixties not long ago.
Thanks Morons!
Posted by: Dalton L Chandler II at June 07, 2020 07:24 PM (YuN8K)
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Stable temp and controlled humidity and it lasts decades. I was shooting surplus ammo made in the sixties not long ago.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (03xwg)
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Yahoo!! The Gun Thread!!!
Howdy Weasel, Howdy fellow Gun Cranks!!
No range activity this week... enough to give me the sadz...
One thing to remember. When a lot of surplus rifles were sporterized, they were just old cheap used rifles. Somewhere I have a gen-u-wine NRA booklet on sporterizing Springfields. I know my dad did a bunch when he was a part time gunsmith as a young man in the late 50s- early 60s. My brother has his 03A3 which is quite nice. I have his savage 44 1/2, but that is not exactly sporterized.
Interesting week here in the city. Fortunately the rioters avoided my block... They did a lot of damage around DC though...
I live in a small English Basement Apartment here. I am thinking about building a shed so I have space for a drill press and mini mill, and a reloading bench. Shh!! Not popular here I am sure.
Howdy Weasel, Howdy fellow Gun Cranks!!
No range activity this week... enough to give me the sadz...
One thing to remember. When a lot of surplus rifles were sporterized, they were just old cheap used rifles. Somewhere I have a gen-u-wine NRA booklet on sporterizing Springfields. I know my dad did a bunch when he was a part time gunsmith as a young man in the late 50s- early 60s. My brother has his 03A3 which is quite nice. I have his savage 44 1/2, but that is not exactly sporterized.
Interesting week here in the city. Fortunately the rioters avoided my block... They did a lot of damage around DC though...
I live in a small English Basement Apartment here. I am thinking about building a shed so I have space for a drill press and mini mill, and a reloading bench. Shh!! Not popular here I am sure.
Posted by: Jesse in DC at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (ouR/N)
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No range time this week.
Down time and maintenance.
Next week I put the Mosin 91/30 rifle and M44 carbine thru their paces.
Preprovozhdat!
Down time and maintenance.
Next week I put the Mosin 91/30 rifle and M44 carbine thru their paces.
Preprovozhdat!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (Z+IKu)
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How many of you saw the picture of the Secret Service Sniper here at AOSHQ earlier in the week. I could see he had about a 26" Stainless Steel barrel, and a suppressor. It appeared to be an AR Pattern, bolt action, rifle with what looked like a Night Force scope on it. My guess was either a .308 or a 6.5 Creedmore from the size of the ejector port. Any one else have more information on what he had?
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (0l/6b)
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But where is a pic of weaseldpg to complete the gun thread?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at June 07, 2020 07:30 PM (WwTwF)
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56....
The S&P is a very good budget AR. And like all AR15's, you can always "improve it" if the urge ever hits.
The S&P is a very good budget AR. And like all AR15's, you can always "improve it" if the urge ever hits.
Posted by: PacosMojo at June 07, 2020 07:30 PM (NUMhV)
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Just got back from academy sports and they had hardly any ammo and guns. Shotgun shells mostly. Limit 5 on all boxes, all kinds.
Posted by: NCKate at June 07, 2020 07:27 PM (6LlJs)
Almost had me buying a .38 Revolver ( only ammo they had besides shotgun ) when I was there last week.
Posted by: NCKate at June 07, 2020 07:27 PM (6LlJs)
Almost had me buying a .38 Revolver ( only ammo they had besides shotgun ) when I was there last week.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 07:30 PM (2DOZq)
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Weasel - awesome gun thread as usual. Not a big Springfield guy, but that 30-06 is sick. DB let me peek through that spotting scope. All I can say is wow. I think it can not only laze for range, but give you a 7 day forecast.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 07, 2020 07:32 PM (DjiZK)
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How many of you saw the picture of the Secret Service Sniper here at AOSHQ earlier in the week. I could see he had about a 26" Stainless Steel barrel, and a suppressor. It appeared to be an AR Pattern, bolt action, rifle with what looked like a Night Force scope on it. My guess was either a .308 or a 6.5 Creedmore from the size of the ejector port. Any one else have more information on what he had?
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As I recall, some of the ettes were very interested in finding out what he had.
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As I recall, some of the ettes were very interested in finding out what he had.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 07, 2020 07:32 PM (iydjf)
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65 Hey Weasel, have you ever tried a 2-stage LaRue MBT trigger? Pretty damn impressive for $89.
Posted by: PacosMojo at June 07, 2020 07:27 PM (NUMhV)
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I'm not sure of the exact model, but I have a LaRue trigger downstairs somewhere that I bought for a project (which never materialized).
Posted by: PacosMojo at June 07, 2020 07:27 PM (NUMhV)
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I'm not sure of the exact model, but I have a LaRue trigger downstairs somewhere that I bought for a project (which never materialized).
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:33 PM (03xwg)
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Stable temp and controlled humidity and it lasts decades
Can it be shrink wrapped and stored in the freezer?
Can it be shrink wrapped and stored in the freezer?
Posted by: Piratepatch from the flood zone at June 07, 2020 07:33 PM (M9BrN)
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Oh, maintenance note: I've been having some trouble with my slide not locking back on my 1911's after the last round is expended.
Not a big deal, as these are practice magazines for IDPA. (my 1911's have been so reliable, I have to create malfunctions so I can practice a malfunction drill)
Finally, though, I decided it was time to fix the problem and ordered new magazine springs and followers for the magazines.
I'm pretty sure it's the springs and followers as the problem is occurring on both the Sig and Kimber 1911 and both 1911's have been thoroughly cleaned)
Not a big deal, as these are practice magazines for IDPA. (my 1911's have been so reliable, I have to create malfunctions so I can practice a malfunction drill)
Finally, though, I decided it was time to fix the problem and ordered new magazine springs and followers for the magazines.
I'm pretty sure it's the springs and followers as the problem is occurring on both the Sig and Kimber 1911 and both 1911's have been thoroughly cleaned)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:33 PM (WEBkv)
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Finally, this week I did a little shooting with my brand-new Sig P365. Worst groups I've ever shot. Every time I go shooting, I get a little worse.
The slide didn't return all the way a couple of times, but my shooting buddy (who used to be an instructor) said he didn't detect any limp-wristing. So I guess I need more practice to see if it's me or the gun.
The slide didn't return all the way a couple of times, but my shooting buddy (who used to be an instructor) said he didn't detect any limp-wristing. So I guess I need more practice to see if it's me or the gun.
Posted by: Emmie at June 07, 2020 07:33 PM (clsJu)
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Thanks as always, Weasel.
RE: Glasses. I need them but . . . I can't see my front sight with my regular glasses on. Fortunately, I have an optometrist who made a pair of safety glasses with normal correction on the left but only astigmatism correction on the right (dominant) eye.
Makes a world of difference being able to see that way. I can see well enough to put six rounds into a softball size target @25 yards.
I can't use this set up for work though - I need true binocular vision for the job.
Range time today was rifle work. Decided I hate my bipod (it was a cheapy) so I picked up a Magpul to try. If that doesn't work, I'll go to an Atlas.
Picking up a little handgun work on Wednesdays as I teach a nephew the basics. Last week was single hand drills, dominant and weak, at seven yards.
RE: Glasses. I need them but . . . I can't see my front sight with my regular glasses on. Fortunately, I have an optometrist who made a pair of safety glasses with normal correction on the left but only astigmatism correction on the right (dominant) eye.
Makes a world of difference being able to see that way. I can see well enough to put six rounds into a softball size target @25 yards.
I can't use this set up for work though - I need true binocular vision for the job.
Range time today was rifle work. Decided I hate my bipod (it was a cheapy) so I picked up a Magpul to try. If that doesn't work, I'll go to an Atlas.
Picking up a little handgun work on Wednesdays as I teach a nephew the basics. Last week was single hand drills, dominant and weak, at seven yards.
Posted by: Long Running Fool at June 07, 2020 07:34 PM (RnS3H)
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Stable temp and controlled humidity and it lasts decades
Can it be shrink wrapped and stored in the freezer?
Posted by: Piratepatch from the flood zone at June 07, 2020 07:33 PM
naw...you're thinking hobos
Stable temp and controlled humidity and it lasts decades
Can it be shrink wrapped and stored in the freezer?
Posted by: Piratepatch from the flood zone at June 07, 2020 07:33 PM
naw...you're thinking hobos
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 07, 2020 07:35 PM (NcTjl)
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Weasel, my inbox seems to be empty.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 07:35 PM (MxIn6)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:35 PM (03xwg)
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Yahoo!! The Gun Thread!!!
Howdy Weasel, Howdy fellow Gun Cranks!!
No range activity this week... enough to give me the sadz...
One thing to remember. When a lot of surplus rifles were sporterized, they were just old cheap used rifles. Somewhere I have a gen-u-wine NRA booklet on sporterizing Springfields. I know my dad did a bunch when he was a part time gunsmith as a young man in the late 50s- early 60s. My brother has his 03A3 which is quite nice. I have his savage 44 1/2, but that is not exactly sporterized.
Interesting week here in the city. Fortunately the rioters avoided my block... They did a lot of damage around DC though...
I live in a small English Basement Apartment here. I am thinking about building a shed so I have space for a drill press and mini mill, and a reloading bench. Shh!! Not popular here I am sure.
Posted by: Jesse in DC
Will they deliver powder or primers to DC
Howdy Weasel, Howdy fellow Gun Cranks!!
No range activity this week... enough to give me the sadz...
One thing to remember. When a lot of surplus rifles were sporterized, they were just old cheap used rifles. Somewhere I have a gen-u-wine NRA booklet on sporterizing Springfields. I know my dad did a bunch when he was a part time gunsmith as a young man in the late 50s- early 60s. My brother has his 03A3 which is quite nice. I have his savage 44 1/2, but that is not exactly sporterized.
Interesting week here in the city. Fortunately the rioters avoided my block... They did a lot of damage around DC though...
I live in a small English Basement Apartment here. I am thinking about building a shed so I have space for a drill press and mini mill, and a reloading bench. Shh!! Not popular here I am sure.
Posted by: Jesse in DC
Will they deliver powder or primers to DC
Posted by: Jean at June 07, 2020 07:36 PM (B7KlG)
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Speaking of ARs, the gun shop also had a slightly worn Colt AR-15 with slick plastic stock and triangular handguard, 3-prong flash hider, and no forward assist. $3.5k. There's got to be someone on this thread who would love to have it.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:36 PM (t+qrx)
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Hey Weasel, hey y'all!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:37 PM (PiwSw)
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73 But where is a pic of weaseldpg to complete the gun thread?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at June 07, 2020 07:30 PM (WwTwF)
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I sent a pic in for the Pet Thread!
Posted by: vmom 2020 at June 07, 2020 07:30 PM (WwTwF)
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I sent a pic in for the Pet Thread!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:37 PM (03xwg)
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51 ... "What's the best way to store ammo and how long can it be expected to last under different storage methods?"
The standard andswer is store it in the never-to-be-found cool and dry place. However, I've shot ammo that sat in my garage for over 20 years, with all the heat, cold and humidity you could imagine. It shot just fine. I've fired surplus ammo over 50 years old that still did the job.
The standard andswer is store it in the never-to-be-found cool and dry place. However, I've shot ammo that sat in my garage for over 20 years, with all the heat, cold and humidity you could imagine. It shot just fine. I've fired surplus ammo over 50 years old that still did the job.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 07:37 PM (7EjX1)
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Just got back from worship in the sanctuary. Blessed, I is. What a beautiful rifle and scope! Can you morons put me some knowledge on the ATN X-Sight HD w/ GPS and Wi-Fi, comes with a green illuminator? Yes or no on it new in box?
Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2020 07:37 PM (XhWtx)
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As I recall, some of the ettes were very interested in finding out what he had.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 07, 2020 07:32 PM (iydjf)
I selflessly volunteer to perform a pat down to check for all his weapons.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at June 07, 2020 07:32 PM (iydjf)
I selflessly volunteer to perform a pat down to check for all his weapons.
Posted by: vmom 2020 at June 07, 2020 07:37 PM (WwTwF)
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Customary range day, expanded a bit, to a magazine / cylinder through just about every pistol in the Chateau - plus the AR and the Henry Survival .22
All functioned 100%, yay, kept the steel plate busy !
A high&right .44mag round from the 629 broke the bolt holding the chain, so a quick repair was required.
With summer I am going back to the bellyband for general carry.
Have to wear it fairly high, so itslows my draw a bit while I hoist my shirt clear. Looking forward to being able to wear a belt again and go back to my OWB holsters.
Thinking about one of those cheap Feyachi red-dot sights for the AR, the iron sights are getting pesky hard to see in adverse lighting.
High performance defensive ammo is in short supply around here, all I could find was .357 and .32
Bought some FMJ just to keep the numbers up in the safe.
All functioned 100%, yay, kept the steel plate busy !
A high&right .44mag round from the 629 broke the bolt holding the chain, so a quick repair was required.
With summer I am going back to the bellyband for general carry.
Have to wear it fairly high, so itslows my draw a bit while I hoist my shirt clear. Looking forward to being able to wear a belt again and go back to my OWB holsters.
Thinking about one of those cheap Feyachi red-dot sights for the AR, the iron sights are getting pesky hard to see in adverse lighting.
High performance defensive ammo is in short supply around here, all I could find was .357 and .32
Bought some FMJ just to keep the numbers up in the safe.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 07:37 PM (0IMgo)
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Fired new brass loaded to my specs today. .664 group with a cold barrel fouling shot at 1 moa higher, as usual.
I have some new shoulder setback measuring tools, so I'm really getting into the weeds now...
I'm enjoying it.
I have some new shoulder setback measuring tools, so I'm really getting into the weeds now...
I'm enjoying it.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 07:37 PM (81P5W)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:38 PM (03xwg)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at June 07, 2020 07:38 PM (WwTwF)
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Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:33 PM
I had the same problem with my "practice" mags (ProMags, I think. Yeah, I know...)
replaced them with RIA factory mags with steel followers & haven't had that problem since
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:33 PM
I had the same problem with my "practice" mags (ProMags, I think. Yeah, I know...)
replaced them with RIA factory mags with steel followers & haven't had that problem since
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 07, 2020 07:38 PM (NcTjl)
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88 Hey Weasel, hey y'all!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:37 PM (PiwSw)
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Howdy and welcome!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:37 PM (PiwSw)
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Howdy and welcome!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:39 PM (03xwg)
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Many thanks for the replies! I think I'll look into the S&W M&P 15 to begin with. The Gun Lego bug might bite me later, but for now, the simpler, the better.
Lok'tar Ogar!
For the Horde!
Lok'tar Ogar!
For the Horde!
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:39 PM (YWBlw)
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Re: the "Chinese cooties"
My 8 yr old daughter came to me a couple of hours ago to indignantly inform on her 11 yr old brother...
"Mommy! Jacob said I have CoRONA!!".
So, yeah. It's the cooties.
My 8 yr old daughter came to me a couple of hours ago to indignantly inform on her 11 yr old brother...
"Mommy! Jacob said I have CoRONA!!".
So, yeah. It's the cooties.
Posted by: Brunette the 'Ette at June 07, 2020 07:39 PM (B4Nkq)
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84 Weasel, my inbox seems to be empty.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 07:35 PM (MxIn6)
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Standby...
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 07:35 PM (MxIn6)
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Standby...
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:39 PM (03xwg)
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Speaking of ARs, the gun shop also had a slightly worn Colt AR-15 with slick plastic stock and triangular handguard, 3-prong flash hider, and no forward assist. $3.5k. There's got to be someone on this thread who would love to have it.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:36 PM (t+qrx)
My friend bought a Colt a couple of years ago that was manufactured in the 70's . The forward assist is definitely needed.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:36 PM (t+qrx)
My friend bought a Colt a couple of years ago that was manufactured in the 70's . The forward assist is definitely needed.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 07:39 PM (2DOZq)
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I'll let you all draw your own conclusions, but things are getting sporty.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 20
That's scary. My cousin lives near you.
I just went to a funeral in Linden, we landed someplace in Stockton. My cousin told me to be careful there, that it could be sketchy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 20
That's scary. My cousin lives near you.
I just went to a funeral in Linden, we landed someplace in Stockton. My cousin told me to be careful there, that it could be sketchy.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 07, 2020 07:40 PM (7bcfy)
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51 What's the best way to store ammo and how long can it be expected to last under different storage methods?
Thanks Morons!
Posted by: Dalton L Chandler II at June 07, 2020 07:24 PM (YuN8K)
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Stable temp and controlled humidity and it lasts decades. I was shooting surplus ammo made in the sixties not long ago.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (03xwg)
What Weasel said. I have shot British .303 from the 1920's, Italian 6.5 Carcano from the 1930's and German wartime production 8mm Mauser from 1943-44 and all went bang.
Stored properly over the years.
I have shot Syrian 7.5mm French from the 1960's, and only 1 in 20 went bang. Improperly stored and or Mossad sabotage. But Arabs are known for fucking up their weapons and ammo.
Thanks Morons!
Posted by: Dalton L Chandler II at June 07, 2020 07:24 PM (YuN8K)
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Stable temp and controlled humidity and it lasts decades. I was shooting surplus ammo made in the sixties not long ago.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (03xwg)
What Weasel said. I have shot British .303 from the 1920's, Italian 6.5 Carcano from the 1930's and German wartime production 8mm Mauser from 1943-44 and all went bang.
Stored properly over the years.
I have shot Syrian 7.5mm French from the 1960's, and only 1 in 20 went bang. Improperly stored and or Mossad sabotage. But Arabs are known for fucking up their weapons and ammo.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (Z+IKu)
105
Any Minneapolis morons might want to increase their weapons stash....
@Breaking911
BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council votes to "dismantle" the police department, vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety model"
@Breaking911
BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council votes to "dismantle" the police department, vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
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Posted by: Long Running Fool at June 07, 2020 07:34 PM (RnS3H)
I have a Magpul bipod. Absolutely love it. Locks right into my hunter 700 chassis shooting.308. No issue loading the bipod when shooting prone.
I have a Magpul bipod. Absolutely love it. Locks right into my hunter 700 chassis shooting.308. No issue loading the bipod when shooting prone.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (DjiZK)
107
84 Weasel, my inbox seems to be empty.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 07:35 PM (MxIn6)
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Incoming.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 07:35 PM (MxIn6)
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Incoming.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:42 PM (MVjcR)
108
Support Your Local Sheriif (1969) and Support Your Local Gunfighter (1971), James Garner comedy-westerns.
Posted by: butch at June 07, 2020 07:42 PM (hXu8T)
109
For gun stuff, I have a shed that I also do woodworking in. I'm currently designing a rolling table with drawers and doors that I'll be able to pull out and do gun stuff on. I currently have to protect my work bench as I prefer not to get oil and gun gunk on it, as I prefer not to get that residue on anything I might be doing with wood.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:42 PM (WEBkv)
110
105 Any Minneapolis morons might want to increase their weapons stash....
@Breaking911
BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council votes to "dismantle" the police department, vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
That could get interesting, because the Constitution Demands States have a Republican form of Government.
And Republics are defined by the Supremacy of the Law, and enforcement of same.
@Breaking911
BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council votes to "dismantle" the police department, vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
That could get interesting, because the Constitution Demands States have a Republican form of Government.
And Republics are defined by the Supremacy of the Law, and enforcement of same.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (NgKpN)
111
I'm going to give you my own crazy take on triggers. I think they only matter psychologically. Why? Because the only time you can feel a trigger is when you are dry firing. If you have a live round in the chamber the flash - bang reaches your brain through your eyes and ears before the nerve impulse of what the trigger felt like can travel up your arm. That flash - bang is so much more powerful than a precision trigger sensation that the trigger literally gets lost in the noise of what is going on.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (0l/6b)
112
102 Speaking of ARs, the gun shop also had a slightly worn Colt AR-15 with slick plastic stock and triangular handguard, 3-prong flash hider, and no forward assist. $3.5k. There's got to be someone on this thread who would love to have it.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:36 PM (t+qrx)
My friend bought a Colt a couple of years ago that was manufactured in the 70's . The forward assist is definitely needed.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 07:39 PM (2DOZq)
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Sounds like a Colt SP-1. I featured it on a Gun Thread about a year or so ago.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:36 PM (t+qrx)
My friend bought a Colt a couple of years ago that was manufactured in the 70's . The forward assist is definitely needed.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 07:39 PM (2DOZq)
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Sounds like a Colt SP-1. I featured it on a Gun Thread about a year or so ago.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (MVjcR)
113
"community-based public safety model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
commie enforcers
great
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
commie enforcers
great
Posted by: vmom 2020 at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (WwTwF)
114
How many of you saw the picture of the Secret Service Sniper here at
AOSHQ earlier in the week. I could see he had about a 26" Stainless
Steel barrel, and a suppressor. It appeared to be an AR Pattern, bolt
action, rifle with what looked like a Night Force scope on it. My guess
was either a .308 or a 6.5 Creedmore from the size of the ejector port.
Any one else have more information on what he had?
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (0l/6b)
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what thread was that?
Herself has a bolt action AR...
in 338 Lapua.
one of these days it might actually make it to the range to be broken in.
How many of you saw the picture of the Secret Service Sniper here at
AOSHQ earlier in the week. I could see he had about a 26" Stainless
Steel barrel, and a suppressor. It appeared to be an AR Pattern, bolt
action, rifle with what looked like a Night Force scope on it. My guess
was either a .308 or a 6.5 Creedmore from the size of the ejector port.
Any one else have more information on what he had?
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (0l/6b)
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what thread was that?
Herself has a bolt action AR...
in 338 Lapua.
one of these days it might actually make it to the range to be broken in.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 07:44 PM (5RpHt)
115
Anyone with a Kel-Tec PMR 30 wanting to improve reliability should check out MCARBO. They have an all in one upgrade kit that improves the PMR 30 to a reliable high performance pistol worthy of concealed carry. I just finished my pistol and it was an easy hour project that anyone can do. They have an instructional video that lays it all out. I dumped three thirty round magazines through mine as fast as possible without one failure. Before the upgrade I rarely ever got through a magazine without a failure to feed.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade a fucking ray of sunshine at June 07, 2020 07:45 PM (bML9A)
116
Due to the current climate in downtown Seattle where I work, I have been carrying my G42.
I find that I am more frightened than when I dont carry.
Help?
I find that I am more frightened than when I dont carry.
Help?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 07:45 PM (8viKR)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 07, 2020 07:45 PM (EgshT)
118
111 I'm going to give you my own crazy take on triggers. I think they only matter psychologically. Why? Because the only time you can feel a trigger is when you are dry firing. If you have a live round in the chamber the flash - bang reaches your brain through your eyes and ears before the nerve impulse of what the trigger felt like can travel up your arm. That flash - bang is so much more powerful than a precision trigger sensation that the trigger literally gets lost in the noise of what is going on.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (0l/6b)
As long as we're on the subject -- flat or curved?
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (0l/6b)
As long as we're on the subject -- flat or curved?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Piratepatch from the flood zone at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (M9BrN)
120
We went to my local range (my back yard 100 acres) and celebrated oldest child graduation by shooting lots of guns M1, ACP 45, 22 LR. 357, 38 special. Shot skeet Also but broke the thrower 1/2 way through. Had lots of fun.
Posted by: Picric at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (nonGu)
121
For our readers in Washington state, if you don't have a CPL yet, I have some good news!
The John Brown Gun Club (JBGC) will give you a grant to cover the costs.
I hear you thinking "Wow, Duncanthrax, that's sounds incredible! But who is the JBGC?"
Basically, they're the "armed" wing of Antifa.
"Antifa???", you think.
Indeed. Here's the blurb from their website:
"If you're a member of a marginalized group, we'll even help you towards getting a concealed pistol license! Here's a grant application for those in marginalized groups who wish to get a concealed pistol license in the state of Washington.
https://tinyurl.com/PSJBGC-CPL"
"But Duncanthrax, I'm not marginalized!"
Seriously? You're conservative, a regular reader of this blog, on this particular thread, and you're not marginalized?
All I can say is "It's their money. Use it when you want to."
The John Brown Gun Club (JBGC) will give you a grant to cover the costs.
I hear you thinking "Wow, Duncanthrax, that's sounds incredible! But who is the JBGC?"
Basically, they're the "armed" wing of Antifa.
"Antifa???", you think.
Indeed. Here's the blurb from their website:
"If you're a member of a marginalized group, we'll even help you towards getting a concealed pistol license! Here's a grant application for those in marginalized groups who wish to get a concealed pistol license in the state of Washington.
https://tinyurl.com/PSJBGC-CPL"
"But Duncanthrax, I'm not marginalized!"
Seriously? You're conservative, a regular reader of this blog, on this particular thread, and you're not marginalized?
All I can say is "It's their money. Use it when you want to."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (DMUuz)
122
Have not been to the range YET but NRA HQ range opened May 31.
sra blaster looking to get there as soon as we can. Probably this week.
Our proto-prepper instincts got us a bunch of ammo and an extra AR 15 prior to the full COVID clampdown.
With the new excitement sra blaster said we should buy some body armor.
So we did.
Due in the next couple of days.
sra blaster looking to get there as soon as we can. Probably this week.
Our proto-prepper instincts got us a bunch of ammo and an extra AR 15 prior to the full COVID clampdown.
With the new excitement sra blaster said we should buy some body armor.
So we did.
Due in the next couple of days.
Posted by: blaster at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (ZfRYq)
123
As long as we're on the subject -- flat or curved?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (PiwSw)
Triggers, y'all. Triggers.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (PiwSw)
Triggers, y'all. Triggers.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (PiwSw)
124
I think I'll look into the S&W M&P 15 to begin with. The Gun Lego bug might bite me later, but for now, the simpler, the better.
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:39 PM (YWBlw)
While you're at it, budget for:
- AR-type range bag ($60)
- Sling: add'l hardware may be needed ($50)
- Mags: Magpul is good, but so are others. Don't cheap out here. ($20/ea)
And a cleaning kit if you haven't got one. You'll want all these at some point, might as well get them now. And they'll all work on a second and third AR too.
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:39 PM (YWBlw)
While you're at it, budget for:
- AR-type range bag ($60)
- Sling: add'l hardware may be needed ($50)
- Mags: Magpul is good, but so are others. Don't cheap out here. ($20/ea)
And a cleaning kit if you haven't got one. You'll want all these at some point, might as well get them now. And they'll all work on a second and third AR too.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (t+qrx)
125
Dalton Chandlere -
my experience, with ordinary commercial ammo, stored indoors in house or garage without any particular precautions of temp or humidity;
I have recently fired quite a bit of 30 - 40 year old stuff without a single failure ... .38/.357, .44, .45, .22, .223, 12ga.
Cleaning out the safe for stuff made this century, lol.
Ditto 12 ga birdshot from about 20 years ago, zero problems.
my experience, with ordinary commercial ammo, stored indoors in house or garage without any particular precautions of temp or humidity;
I have recently fired quite a bit of 30 - 40 year old stuff without a single failure ... .38/.357, .44, .45, .22, .223, 12ga.
Cleaning out the safe for stuff made this century, lol.
Ditto 12 ga birdshot from about 20 years ago, zero problems.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (0IMgo)
126
I find that I am more frightened than when I dont carry.
Help?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 07:45 PM (8viKR)
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Added responsibility because you stand ready to put yourself between people who intend harm and those who wish to go on about their business.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Help?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 07:45 PM (8viKR)
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Added responsibility because you stand ready to put yourself between people who intend harm and those who wish to go on about their business.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv)
127
And Republics are defined by the Supremacy of the Law, and enforcement of same.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (NgKpN)
Whatever.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (NgKpN)
Whatever.
Posted by: Chief Justice John Roberts at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (2N7oZ)
128
I bought a gun this weekend. First time gun owner. The dealer didn't have any 9mm ammo though so I need to find some......
Posted by: Mark at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (+LbeO)
129
123 As long as we're on the subject -- flat or curved?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (PiwSw)
Triggers, y'all. Triggers.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (PiwSw)
Hey!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (PiwSw)
Triggers, y'all. Triggers.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (PiwSw)
Hey!
Posted by: Brie Larsen at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (NWiLs)
130
How many of you saw the picture of the Secret Service Sniper here at AOSHQ earlier in the week. I could see he had about a 26" Stainless Steel barrel, and a suppressor. It appeared to be an AR Pattern, bolt action, rifle with what looked like a Night Force scope on it. My guess was either a .308 or a 6.5 Creedmore from the size of the ejector port. Any one else have more information on what he had?
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (0l/6b)
I wasn't really paying much attention to the gun he was carrying, IYKWIM.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (0l/6b)
I wasn't really paying much attention to the gun he was carrying, IYKWIM.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (OzQGF)
131
As long as we're on the subject -- flat or curved?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Brie Larson at June 07, 2020 07:48 PM (DMUuz)
132
118 111 I'm going to give you my own crazy take on triggers. I think they only matter psychologically. Why? Because the only time you can feel a trigger is when you are dry firing. If you have a live round in the chamber the flash - bang reaches your brain through your eyes and ears before the nerve impulse of what the trigger felt like can travel up your arm. That flash - bang is so much more powerful than a precision trigger sensation that the trigger literally gets lost in the noise of what is going on.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (0l/6b)
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Fair enough, but I want my match triggers to break exactly the same way no matter which one I'm using.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (0l/6b)
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Fair enough, but I want my match triggers to break exactly the same way no matter which one I'm using.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:48 PM (03xwg)
133
I bought a gun this weekend. First time gun owner. The dealer didn't have any 9mm ammo though so I need to find some......
Posted by: Mark at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (+LbeO)
We went out to Cabela's today. Nothing but empty shelves.
Posted by: Mark at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (+LbeO)
We went out to Cabela's today. Nothing but empty shelves.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 07:48 PM (OzQGF)
134
Added responsibility because you stand ready to put yourself between people who intend harm and those who wish to go on about their business.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv)
This.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv)
This.
Posted by: blaster at June 07, 2020 07:48 PM (ZfRYq)
135
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (DMUuz)
I can pay my own way.
I don't think I'd want them knowing I had such a permit, although it may be public info anyway?
I can pay my own way.
I don't think I'd want them knowing I had such a permit, although it may be public info anyway?
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 07, 2020 07:48 PM (NgKpN)
136
I'm going to give you my own crazy take on triggers. I think they only matter psychologically. Why? Because the only time you can feel a trigger is when you are dry firing. If you have a live round in the chamber the flash - bang reaches your brain through your eyes and ears before the nerve impulse of what the trigger felt like can travel up your arm. That flash - bang is so much more powerful than a precision trigger sensation that the trigger literally gets lost in the noise of what is going on.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (0l/6b)
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If you grab a Glock and then a 1911 and then a revolver, I guarantee you'll be able to tell the difference between the triggers.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (0l/6b)
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If you grab a Glock and then a 1911 and then a revolver, I guarantee you'll be able to tell the difference between the triggers.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:49 PM (WEBkv)
137
120 We went to my local range (my back yard 100 acres) and celebrated oldest child graduation by shooting lots of guns M1, ACP 45, 22 LR. 357, 38 special. Shot skeet Also but broke the thrower 1/2 way through. Had lots of fun.
Posted by: Picric at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (nonGu)
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Sounds like a great day!
Posted by: Picric at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (nonGu)
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Sounds like a great day!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:49 PM (03xwg)
138
128 I bought a gun this weekend. First time gun owner. The dealer didn't have any 9mm ammo though so I need to find some......
Posted by: Mark at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (+LbeO)
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Congratulations! Try some of the ammo links in the thread.
Posted by: Mark at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (+LbeO)
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Congratulations! Try some of the ammo links in the thread.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:50 PM (03xwg)
139
That flash - bang is so much more powerful than a precision trigger sensation that the trigger literally gets lost in the noise of what is going on.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (0l/6b)
But it's everything that happens up to that point that matters. You can tell if a trigger is single or two-stage without even dry firing.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (0l/6b)
But it's everything that happens up to that point that matters. You can tell if a trigger is single or two-stage without even dry firing.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:50 PM (t+qrx)
140
I wasn't really paying much attention to the gun[/s[ weapo he was carrying, IYKWIM.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM
FIFY, IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM
FIFY, IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: GySgt Hartmann at June 07, 2020 07:50 PM (DMUuz)
141
I did put a replacement trigger in my Euger 10/22 takedown. It made a big improvement. I can get used to just about any trigger. But most of my muzzleloading rifles have double set triggers and they have spoiled me.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 07:50 PM (7EjX1)
142
I find that I am more frightened than when I dont carry.
Just my 2 cents but I imagine some of that comes from thinking a lot about how you would react if you (hopefully never) had to draw to defend yourself. To me, the cures are a) good training b) lots of range time and c) carry your sidearm of choice whenever and wherever practical.
Just my 2 cents but I imagine some of that comes from thinking a lot about how you would react if you (hopefully never) had to draw to defend yourself. To me, the cures are a) good training b) lots of range time and c) carry your sidearm of choice whenever and wherever practical.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 07, 2020 07:51 PM (EgshT)
Posted by: GySgt Hartmann at June 07, 2020 07:51 PM (DMUuz)
144
I did put a replacement trigger in my Euger 10/22 takedown. It made a big improvement. I can get used to just about any trigger. But most of my muzzleloading rifles have double set triggers and they have spoiled me.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 07:50 PM (7EjX1)
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I'll never forget the first and only time I shot a muzzle loader with the set trigger. I breathed on the trigger and the thing went off. Fortunately, I was warned in advance and sort of knew what to expect.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 07:50 PM (7EjX1)
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I'll never forget the first and only time I shot a muzzle loader with the set trigger. I breathed on the trigger and the thing went off. Fortunately, I was warned in advance and sort of knew what to expect.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:53 PM (WEBkv)
145
The Antifa whack job that tried to burn down the immigration holding facility in Tacoma last year was a member of the John Brown Gun Club.
He was armed. His critical error was being in Tacoma as the police there are known to shoot pretty well.
He was armed. His critical error was being in Tacoma as the police there are known to shoot pretty well.
Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at June 07, 2020 07:53 PM (d9Irc)
146
59 once upon a time, there was a movie titled
Support Your Local Shooter
Something like that.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 07:26 PM (Z4rgH)
Support Your Local Gunfighter (1971)starring James Garner - who also starred in Support Your Local Sheriff (1969).
Fun movies.
Support Your Local Shooter
Something like that.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 07:26 PM (Z4rgH)
Support Your Local Gunfighter (1971)starring James Garner - who also starred in Support Your Local Sheriff (1969).
Fun movies.
Posted by: Long Running Fool at June 07, 2020 07:53 PM (RnS3H)
147
Any Minneapolis morons might want to increase their weapons stash....
@Breaking911
BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council votes to "dismantle" the police
department, vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety
model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
A city run like a college campus. Parts of the city look like a war zone so go ahead destroy the rest of it comrades on the march to your Marxist utopia
@Breaking911
BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council votes to "dismantle" the police
department, vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety
model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
A city run like a college campus. Parts of the city look like a war zone so go ahead destroy the rest of it comrades on the march to your Marxist utopia
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 07:53 PM (P8pUU)
148
Jean, I have friends that live in America, a more or less reliable car and OPSEC.
Posted by: Jesse in DC at June 07, 2020 07:54 PM (ouR/N)
149
> I find that I am more frightened than when I dont carry.
Just my 2 cents but I imagine some of that comes from thinking a lot about how you would react if you (hopefully never) had to draw to defend yourself.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 07, 2020 07:51 PM (EgshT)
It might also be knowing that someone who starts threatening you has no idea what they're getting into, and what they're getting YOU into. If it comes to it, neither of you is likely sleeping in your own bed that night.
Just my 2 cents but I imagine some of that comes from thinking a lot about how you would react if you (hopefully never) had to draw to defend yourself.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 07, 2020 07:51 PM (EgshT)
It might also be knowing that someone who starts threatening you has no idea what they're getting into, and what they're getting YOU into. If it comes to it, neither of you is likely sleeping in your own bed that night.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:54 PM (t+qrx)
150
I'm going to give you my own crazy take on triggers. I think they only matter psychologically.
I haven't shot much but I could sure tell the difference between the trigger on a 1911 and a .22 revolver. Maybe that's too stark a difference of guns for what you mean, though.
I haven't shot much but I could sure tell the difference between the trigger on a 1911 and a .22 revolver. Maybe that's too stark a difference of guns for what you mean, though.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 07, 2020 07:54 PM (KZzsI)
151
I could look at the pictures of the Election Night 2016 meltdowns and freak-outs all... freaking... day.
Posted by: DocJ at June 07, 2020 07:54 PM (DU2N9)
152
147 Any Minneapolis morons might want to increase their weapons stash....
@Breaking911
BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council votes to "dismantle" the police
department, vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety
model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
A city run like a college campus. Parts of the city look like a war zone so go ahead destroy the rest of it comrades on the march to your Marxist utopia
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 07:53 PM (P8pUU)
Brilliant.
@Breaking911
BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council votes to "dismantle" the police
department, vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety
model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
A city run like a college campus. Parts of the city look like a war zone so go ahead destroy the rest of it comrades on the march to your Marxist utopia
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 07:53 PM (P8pUU)
Brilliant.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 07:54 PM (NWiLs)
153
"126 I find that I am more frightened than when I dont carry.
Help?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 07:45 PM (8viKR)
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Added responsibility because you stand ready to put yourself between people who intend harm and those who wish to go on about their business.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv) "
Fully seconded. It will pass, with time
Help?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 07:45 PM (8viKR)
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Added responsibility because you stand ready to put yourself between people who intend harm and those who wish to go on about their business.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv) "
Fully seconded. It will pass, with time
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 07:55 PM (0IMgo)
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Good couple of days at the range this week. Tomorrow and Tuesday will be like Christmas Tomorrow the mid-length, stainless AR kit arrives and on Tuesday powder, primers and bullets. That is an outstanding spotting scope setup, a lot of thought went into that and the reloading bench is perfect, unfortunately if I was using it, it would look like my bench in no time.
Posted by: ck at June 07, 2020 07:55 PM (Gf0Po)
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How many of you saw the picture of the Secret Service Sniper here at
AOSHQ earlier in the week. I could see he had about a 26" Stainless
Steel barrel, and a suppressor. It appeared to be an AR Pattern, bolt
action, rifle with what looked like a Night Force scope on it. My guess
was either a .308 or a 6.5 Creedmore from the size of the ejector port.
Any one else have more information on what he had?
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (0l/6b)
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what thread was that?
Herself has a bolt action AR...
in 338 Lapua.
one of these days it might actually make it to the range to be broken in.
It looked like the MRAD by Barrett. SOCOMs new sniper rifle that has 3 interchangeable caliber barrels - .308, .300 Norma Mag, .338 Norma Mag.
AOSHQ earlier in the week. I could see he had about a 26" Stainless
Steel barrel, and a suppressor. It appeared to be an AR Pattern, bolt
action, rifle with what looked like a Night Force scope on it. My guess
was either a .308 or a 6.5 Creedmore from the size of the ejector port.
Any one else have more information on what he had?
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (0l/6b)
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what thread was that?
Herself has a bolt action AR...
in 338 Lapua.
one of these days it might actually make it to the range to be broken in.
It looked like the MRAD by Barrett. SOCOMs new sniper rifle that has 3 interchangeable caliber barrels - .308, .300 Norma Mag, .338 Norma Mag.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 07, 2020 07:55 PM (DjiZK)
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I think any locality that wants to get rid of their police should do it.
Go ahead. I am not going there.
Shit Minneapolis has those damn skybridges because it is too cold to walk on the streets anyway.
Go ahead. I am not going there.
Shit Minneapolis has those damn skybridges because it is too cold to walk on the streets anyway.
Posted by: blaster at June 07, 2020 07:55 PM (ZfRYq)
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The pic I used at the top of the thread is supposed to be from somewhere in Minneapolis I think. Disbanding the police department sounds like a great idea.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:55 PM (03xwg)
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Weasel and the Horde - been interesting here near Langley AFB. Actually had some protesting and vandalizing and looting. I did not take part as I am a pasty white (ish) old (ish) guy. TOH, I DID crack open the crate with the fluffy's in it an I am happily ensconced in my new digs with not one, but TWO 1911s and a heavily modified 870
How's everyone else doin?
McGyver, over
How's everyone else doin?
McGyver, over
Posted by: McGyver at June 07, 2020 07:56 PM (8qEAs)
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Also re-inventory and replenishing family bugout bags this week.
I think I may just go full-on prepper with weird beard and everything.
I think I may just go full-on prepper with weird beard and everything.
Posted by: blaster at June 07, 2020 07:57 PM (ZfRYq)
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find that I am more frightened than when I dont carry.
Help?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 07:45 PM (8viKR)
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Added responsibility because you stand ready to put yourself between people who intend harm and those who wish to go on about their business.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv)
I think part of the fear is using deadly force. No one wants to kill someone and no one especially wants to kill someone unnecessarily. Probably doesn't help much but I have an acceleration of force plan.
Help?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 07:45 PM (8viKR)
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Added responsibility because you stand ready to put yourself between people who intend harm and those who wish to go on about their business.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv)
I think part of the fear is using deadly force. No one wants to kill someone and no one especially wants to kill someone unnecessarily. Probably doesn't help much but I have an acceleration of force plan.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 07:57 PM (2DOZq)
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Good grief, weasel, really? I thought perhaps that picture was from the ME.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:57 PM (WEBkv)
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BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council votes to "dismantle" the police department, vows to replace it with a "community- based public safety model"
So they will:
1) Turn Minneapolis into an actual re-creation of Mogadishu
2) Drive the leftist-voting SJW's who can afford to leave out of the city into the (relatively) sane-voting reddish-purple suburbs
3) Thus creating more deep-blue districts around the still deep-blue city
For the commies, it's a win-win-win.
So they will:
1) Turn Minneapolis into an actual re-creation of Mogadishu
2) Drive the leftist-voting SJW's who can afford to leave out of the city into the (relatively) sane-voting reddish-purple suburbs
3) Thus creating more deep-blue districts around the still deep-blue city
For the commies, it's a win-win-win.
Posted by: DocJ at June 07, 2020 07:58 PM (DU2N9)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:58 PM (03xwg)
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I'm going to give you my own crazy take on triggers. I think they only matter psychologically. Why? Because the only time you can feel a trigger is when you are dry firing. If you have a live round in the chamber the flash - bang reaches your brain through your eyes and ears before the nerve impulse of what the trigger felt like can travel up your arm. That flash - bang is so much more powerful than a precision trigger sensation that the trigger literally gets lost in the noise of what is going on.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM
Don't bogart that Baer 1911, my friend,
Pass it over to me, to meeeeeeeee
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM
Don't bogart that Baer 1911, my friend,
Pass it over to me, to meeeeeeeee
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 07, 2020 07:59 PM (DMUuz)
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Good grief, weasel, really? I thought perhaps that picture was from the ME.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:57 PM (WEBkv)
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Yep. No foolin'.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:57 PM (WEBkv)
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Yep. No foolin'.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:59 PM (03xwg)
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106 Posted by: Long Running Fool at June 07, 2020 07:34 PM (RnS3H)
I have a Magpul bipod. Absolutely love it. Locks right into my hunter 700 chassis shooting.308. No issue loading the bipod when shooting prone.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (DjiZK)
Thanks for the info!
I picked up two of them for my Rugers - I have a .22 RPR and (brand new, never been shot, why won't the scope PLEASE get here already!!!) RPR 6.5 Creedmoor.
Used the .22 Rimfire at the range today and my bipod was a disaster. Folded it and shot off bags to re-zero the rifle. Started terrible, finished well.
I have a Magpul bipod. Absolutely love it. Locks right into my hunter 700 chassis shooting.308. No issue loading the bipod when shooting prone.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (DjiZK)
Thanks for the info!
I picked up two of them for my Rugers - I have a .22 RPR and (brand new, never been shot, why won't the scope PLEASE get here already!!!) RPR 6.5 Creedmoor.
Used the .22 Rimfire at the range today and my bipod was a disaster. Folded it and shot off bags to re-zero the rifle. Started terrible, finished well.
Posted by: Long Running Fool at June 07, 2020 07:59 PM (RnS3H)
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A long time ago, leaving the house armed became second nature to me. You are always peripherally aware of it but after time it becomes sort of like wearing boots, or whatever else might be a part of your everyday attire. On the rare occasions that I'm not able to carry, I feel like I left one of my boots at home.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 07, 2020 08:00 PM (EgshT)
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The pic I used at the top of the thread is supposed
to be from somewhere in Minneapolis I think. Disbanding the police
department sounds like a great idea.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:55 PM (03xwg)
In an early thread someone had a link to a video of someone driving down the streets of Minneapolis. It looked like a war went through it. Destruction everywhere. Just what the Marxist utopia needs is to get rid of its police force. When the barbarians show up at the virtue signaling assholes homes looking for loot I want them to call 911 to get, Sorry you dismantled us. *click*
to be from somewhere in Minneapolis I think. Disbanding the police
department sounds like a great idea.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 07:55 PM (03xwg)
In an early thread someone had a link to a video of someone driving down the streets of Minneapolis. It looked like a war went through it. Destruction everywhere. Just what the Marxist utopia needs is to get rid of its police force. When the barbarians show up at the virtue signaling assholes homes looking for loot I want them to call 911 to get, Sorry you dismantled us. *click*
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 08:00 PM (P8pUU)
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Larsen E. Whipsnade @ 115- Thanks for the PMR30 tip, bro. Mrs. E shot a PMR30 in the Great AOSHQ Shootout and did quite well thank you, but she is always looking to up her game. Endeavor to persevere.
Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2020 08:00 PM (XhWtx)
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Thanks again, hogmartin.
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 08:00 PM (YWBlw)
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One of my hesitations is having young children at home. I want to ask advice about secure storage yet having things at the ready quickly. I know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to assume it is not impossible
Posted by: InCali at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (9AFWN)
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Had a chat with a friend this morning. He, his son and new daughter in law all enjoy shooting and take HD and SD seriously. But this is their first run-in with major ammo shortages. I suspect he will want some help setting up for reloading in the near future.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (7EjX1)
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The slide didn't return all the way a couple of times
Posted by: Emmie
Emmie, I am a gun newbie and only recently got my H&K VP9SK, so apologies if I am not understanding what you are saying. But I think that I had the same problem, after googling, it turned out that my grip, with my support hand, was too high, and that sometimes it caused the problem of which you speak.
Since I have opened my mouth, so to speak, I have an unrelated question. The wire brush that comes with the Hoppes cleaning kits-in mine it is like a wired snake. Is that safe to use? Or will it degrade the barrel over time? I thought I saw somewhere, maybe my owners manual? That these wire brushes should not be used, but it seems that is what they are designed for.
Mr Weasel, thank you for the great post.
Posted by: Emmie
Emmie, I am a gun newbie and only recently got my H&K VP9SK, so apologies if I am not understanding what you are saying. But I think that I had the same problem, after googling, it turned out that my grip, with my support hand, was too high, and that sometimes it caused the problem of which you speak.
Since I have opened my mouth, so to speak, I have an unrelated question. The wire brush that comes with the Hoppes cleaning kits-in mine it is like a wired snake. Is that safe to use? Or will it degrade the barrel over time? I thought I saw somewhere, maybe my owners manual? That these wire brushes should not be used, but it seems that is what they are designed for.
Mr Weasel, thank you for the great post.
Posted by: MikeM at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (tBXtC)
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lots of ammo still available on line, assuming it's legal in your state to do so.
use the search links at the bottom of the thread.
SG ammo won't sell ammo to #Failifornia at all, even with the 03 FFL/COE magic wand. that's all right, lots of other people will, so they get my money, not him.
can't say as i blame him though.
use the search links at the bottom of the thread.
SG ammo won't sell ammo to #Failifornia at all, even with the 03 FFL/COE magic wand. that's all right, lots of other people will, so they get my money, not him.
can't say as i blame him though.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (5RpHt)
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Support Your Local Sheriif (1969) and Support Your Local Gunfighter (1971), James Garner comedy-westerns.
Posted by: butch at June 07, 2020 07:42 PM (hXu8T)
good. very good *adopts Yoda voice*
Here's the thing -- I'm dangerous from 300 yards in; some of you fuckers scare me from a 1000 yards.
As it should be.
To quote Dirty Harry -- A man has to know his limitations.
I know mine.
Posted by: butch at June 07, 2020 07:42 PM (hXu8T)
good. very good *adopts Yoda voice*
Here's the thing -- I'm dangerous from 300 yards in; some of you fuckers scare me from a 1000 yards.
As it should be.
To quote Dirty Harry -- A man has to know his limitations.
I know mine.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:02 PM (Z4rgH)
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Before I forget I also want to thank you Weasel for a great thread every week. Looking forward to seeIng WDv2.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 08:02 PM (2DOZq)
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DocJ your probably going to be right about that.
Posted by: Skip at June 07, 2020 08:02 PM (6f16T)
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Good grief, weasel, really? I thought perhaps that picture was from the ME.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:57 PM (WEBkv)
Wow, so did I. I thought Weasel put it up as a joke.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:57 PM (WEBkv)
Wow, so did I. I thought Weasel put it up as a joke.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:03 PM (OzQGF)
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Had a chat with a friend this morning. He, his son and new daughter in law all enjoy shooting and take HD and SD seriously. But this is their first run-in with major ammo shortages. I suspect he will want some help setting up for reloading in the near future.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (7EjX1)
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Or, one can keep lots of ammo in stock.
Down to 1K rounds? Time to order,
That kind of thing.
Or, go to the range and shoot up 200 rounds? Buy 300 to replace.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (7EjX1)
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Or, one can keep lots of ammo in stock.
Down to 1K rounds? Time to order,
That kind of thing.
Or, go to the range and shoot up 200 rounds? Buy 300 to replace.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 08:03 PM (WEBkv)
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BREAKING: Minneapolis City Council votes to "dismantle" the police department, vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
Mary!!!!!
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
Mary!!!!!
Posted by: Lou Grant, Fat Marxist Pig at June 07, 2020 08:03 PM (Z+IKu)
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For our readers in Washington state, if you don't have a CPL yet, I have some good news!
All I can say is "It's their money. Use it when you want to."
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Thanks for the tip, but...
1- I don't want them to have any of my information. None.
2- I don't need there money.
3- *and most importantly* I figure, when the time comes I need to regularly carry concealed, I won't need or want a permit.
IYKWIMAITTYD.
For our readers in Washington state, if you don't have a CPL yet, I have some good news!
All I can say is "It's their money. Use it when you want to."
Posted by: Duncanthrax
Thanks for the tip, but...
1- I don't want them to have any of my information. None.
2- I don't need there money.
3- *and most importantly* I figure, when the time comes I need to regularly carry concealed, I won't need or want a permit.
IYKWIMAITTYD.
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at June 07, 2020 08:03 PM (af5xa)
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One of my hesitations is having young children at
home. I want to ask advice about secure storage yet having things at the
ready quickly. I know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to
assume it is not impossible
Posted by: InCali at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (9AFWN)
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talk to the people at Dean Safe Company here in SoCal. we bought all of out gub safes from them, and, at the very least, they can give you good advice.
home. I want to ask advice about secure storage yet having things at the
ready quickly. I know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to
assume it is not impossible
Posted by: InCali at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (9AFWN)
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talk to the people at Dean Safe Company here in SoCal. we bought all of out gub safes from them, and, at the very least, they can give you good advice.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (5RpHt)
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Posted by: Long Running Fool at June 07, 2020 07:59 PM (RnS3H)
Adapt and over came. Well done. I had a Harris and the extension locked. It ended up in the trash at the range. Magpul has been 5 for 5 so far without any distortion or binding.
Adapt and over came. Well done. I had a Harris and the extension locked. It ended up in the trash at the range. Magpul has been 5 for 5 so far without any distortion or binding.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (DjiZK)
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151 I could look at the pictures of the Election Night 2016 meltdowns and freak-outs all... freaking... day.
Posted by: DocJ at June 07, 2020 07:54 PM (DU2N9)
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That's what the faces will look like on the conservative side this time.
A lot of wishcasting the polls away based on a very minor miss in 16 (final RCP showed Hillary by 3 and she won by 2) and then nailing it in 18.
Posted by: DocJ at June 07, 2020 07:54 PM (DU2N9)
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That's what the faces will look like on the conservative side this time.
A lot of wishcasting the polls away based on a very minor miss in 16 (final RCP showed Hillary by 3 and she won by 2) and then nailing it in 18.
Posted by: Baseballisdead at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (uYvGw)
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I started questioning triggers when I noticed shooting a hi-point .45 which has an awful trigger, that I didn't notice the trigger when actually shooting the pistol; I'd mentally instruct the weapon to fire,and it would go off without me being aware of what the trigger felt like. All military ARs have crappy triggers, but nobody in the military ever complains about them - you pull the trigger it goes bang.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (0l/6b)
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Here's the thing -- I'm dangerous from 300 yards in; some of you fuckers scare me from a 1000 yards.
As it should be.
To quote Dirty Harry -- A man has to know his limitations.
I know mine.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:02 PM (Z4rgH)
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If you are good out to 300 yards, you're probably better than 85% of shooters out there.
As it should be.
To quote Dirty Harry -- A man has to know his limitations.
I know mine.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:02 PM (Z4rgH)
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If you are good out to 300 yards, you're probably better than 85% of shooters out there.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (WEBkv)
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>>> 171 One of my hesitations is having young children at home. I want to ask advice about secure storage yet having things at the ready quickly. I know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to assume it is not impossible
Posted by: InCali at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (9AFWN)
Here are a couple options; no clue if CA state gov would consider these sufficiently secure (remove spaces from the first URL):
https://www.ftknox.com/ product-category/ pistol-boxes/
http://www.thepiecekeeper.net
Posted by: InCali at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (9AFWN)
Here are a couple options; no clue if CA state gov would consider these sufficiently secure (remove spaces from the first URL):
https://www.ftknox.com/ product-category/ pistol-boxes/
http://www.thepiecekeeper.net
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 07, 2020 08:05 PM (0ReGO)
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Posted by: MikeM at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (tBXtC)
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Happy to do it MikeM. I appreciate you being here!
Posted by: MikeM at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (tBXtC)
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Happy to do it MikeM. I appreciate you being here!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:05 PM (MVjcR)
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Nurse, I agree, when you carry, the actual responsibility weighs on you. However... Your life is worth a lot to the morons on AoS. Them or you, I would pick you every time.
Posted by: Jesse in DC at June 07, 2020 08:05 PM (ouR/N)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 07, 2020 08:06 PM (EgshT)
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Didja see that it's now safe to watch Bugs Bunny?
The Hill@thehill
Elmer Fudd will not have a gun in "Looney Tunes" reboot http://hill.cm/YF3ynVd
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I guess somebody did think about the children.
The Hill@thehill
Elmer Fudd will not have a gun in "Looney Tunes" reboot http://hill.cm/YF3ynVd
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I guess somebody did think about the children.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 07, 2020 08:06 PM (+y/Ru)
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Top half looks like a Monet painting
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 07, 2020 08:06 PM (QS6Hw)
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Thanks guys.
Still losing sleep out here.
More riots in neighborhoods out here. Capital Hill.
It's about six blocks from where I work.
Still losing sleep out here.
More riots in neighborhoods out here. Capital Hill.
It's about six blocks from where I work.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 08:06 PM (l/flJ)
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182 One of my hesitations is having young children at
home. I want to ask advice about secure storage yet having things at the
ready quickly. I know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to
assume it is not impossible
Posted by: InCali at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (9AFWN)
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talk to the people at Dean Safe Company here in SoCal. we bought all of out gub safes from them, and, at the very least, they can give you good advice.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (5RpHt)
Good idea. Keep the kids locked up securely and away from the guns.
home. I want to ask advice about secure storage yet having things at the
ready quickly. I know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to
assume it is not impossible
Posted by: InCali at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (9AFWN)
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talk to the people at Dean Safe Company here in SoCal. we bought all of out gub safes from them, and, at the very least, they can give you good advice.
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (5RpHt)
Good idea. Keep the kids locked up securely and away from the guns.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:06 PM (NWiLs)
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You're most welcome Eromero. It's an easy diy and they provide everything you need. I'll be carrying mine with four spare magazines for social work.
Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade a fucking ray of sunshine at June 07, 2020 08:06 PM (bML9A)
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Busy with fires so poking my head in to say Thanks for the great thread Weasel and Hi to all and QID.
Now back to work.
Now back to work.
Posted by: DBCooper at June 07, 2020 08:07 PM (y1Mvi)
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Hey troll poll - could you go downrange and hold these targets while we shoot at them. Really appreciate it, thanks.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 08:07 PM (0l/6b)
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Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 08:02 PM (2DOZq)
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My pleasure! I really wanted to include a pic of the little guy, but it wouldn't be fair for everyone else sending stuff to the Pet Thread!
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My pleasure! I really wanted to include a pic of the little guy, but it wouldn't be fair for everyone else sending stuff to the Pet Thread!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:07 PM (MVjcR)
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One of my hesitations is having young children at home. I want to ask advice about secure storage yet having things at the ready quickly. I know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to assume it is not impossible
Posted by: InCali at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (9AFWN)
They make single gun safes opened only by your prints. Biometric.
Posted by: InCali at June 07, 2020 08:01 PM (9AFWN)
They make single gun safes opened only by your prints. Biometric.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 08:07 PM (2DOZq)
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Of course...of course...
@haleytalbotnbc
@SenatorRomney
marching in front of the WH: "We need a voice against racism, we need many voices against racism and against brutality. And we need to stand up and say black lives matter."
https://tinyurl.com/y7yobsfa
Oh and look who's thanking him. How special....
@ValerieJarrett
Welcome to the right side of history, @SenatorRomney. I hope your leadership inspires your Republican colleagues to do the same.
@haleytalbotnbc
@SenatorRomney
marching in front of the WH: "We need a voice against racism, we need many voices against racism and against brutality. And we need to stand up and say black lives matter."
https://tinyurl.com/y7yobsfa
Oh and look who's thanking him. How special....
@ValerieJarrett
Welcome to the right side of history, @SenatorRomney. I hope your leadership inspires your Republican colleagues to do the same.
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 08:07 PM (cF8AT)
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 07, 2020 08:06 PM (+y/Ru)
Because OF COURSE they're rebooting Looney Tunes.
Because OF COURSE they're rebooting Looney Tunes.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:07 PM (OzQGF)
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201 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 07, 2020 08:06 PM (+y/Ru)
Because OF COURSE they're rebooting Looney Tunes.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:07 PM (OzQGF)
BLASPHEMY!!!
Because OF COURSE they're rebooting Looney Tunes.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:07 PM (OzQGF)
BLASPHEMY!!!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:08 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:09 PM (MVjcR)
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@SenatorRomney
marching in front of the WH: "We need a voice against racism, we
need many voices against racism and against brutality. And we need to
stand up and say black lives matter."
https://tinyurl.com/y7yobsfa
There is zero difference between the real Mittens and the JoeF. mock Mittens
marching in front of the WH: "We need a voice against racism, we
need many voices against racism and against brutality. And we need to
stand up and say black lives matter."
https://tinyurl.com/y7yobsfa
There is zero difference between the real Mittens and the JoeF. mock Mittens
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 08:09 PM (P8pUU)
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Because OF COURSE they're rebooting Looney Tunes.
Posted by: Jordan61
It's the Zeitgeist. Loony is breaking out all over.
Posted by: Jordan61
It's the Zeitgeist. Loony is breaking out all over.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 07, 2020 08:09 PM (+y/Ru)
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BLASPHEMY!!!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:08 PM (NWiLs)
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Now now, Tiny Tunes was pretty darn good.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:08 PM (NWiLs)
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Now now, Tiny Tunes was pretty darn good.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 08:10 PM (WEBkv)
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There's a protest going on downtown today. I just looked outside and it's raining. Does it make me a bad person if I laughed?
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:10 PM (OzQGF)
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184....
And another poll-troll shows up on the Gun Thread. So troll, can you explain why Trump maintains a 49% approval rating TODAY despite 24-7 attacks by 99% of the media? And he has the approval of 41% of the blacks, according to Rasmussen? Oh, and have you noticed which party is winning practically all the off-term elections, including several in Democratic strongholds? No, you keep posting Biden vs. Trump fluff polls when any contender is always "up" on the incumbent five months out of an election. Even Mondale was "beating Reagan" in June.
And another poll-troll shows up on the Gun Thread. So troll, can you explain why Trump maintains a 49% approval rating TODAY despite 24-7 attacks by 99% of the media? And he has the approval of 41% of the blacks, according to Rasmussen? Oh, and have you noticed which party is winning practically all the off-term elections, including several in Democratic strongholds? No, you keep posting Biden vs. Trump fluff polls when any contender is always "up" on the incumbent five months out of an election. Even Mondale was "beating Reagan" in June.
Posted by: PacosMojo at June 07, 2020 08:10 PM (NUMhV)
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 07, 2020 08:06 PM (+y/Ru)
Because OF COURSE they're rebooting Looney Tunes.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:07 PM (OzQGF)
It became necessary to destroy Looney Tunes in order to save it.
Because OF COURSE they're rebooting Looney Tunes.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:07 PM (OzQGF)
It became necessary to destroy Looney Tunes in order to save it.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 08:10 PM (t+qrx)
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Hi Horde! All's quiet in my neighborhood, probably fewer than 30% of people wear masks at the grocery store, and I'm getting in a bunch of target practice in my backyard range. Things are ok here, relatively.
>> What's the best way to store ammo and how long can it be expected to last under different storage methods?
As others have said, cool and dry ammo will outlast any of us. Out of curiosity, does anyone know what kind of time you could expect with the worst case ammo storage? Assuming I leave the ammo in my car trunk, park it out in the sun every day and in a damp cave overnight, how long would the ammo still be usable?
>> What's the best way to store ammo and how long can it be expected to last under different storage methods?
As others have said, cool and dry ammo will outlast any of us. Out of curiosity, does anyone know what kind of time you could expect with the worst case ammo storage? Assuming I leave the ammo in my car trunk, park it out in the sun every day and in a damp cave overnight, how long would the ammo still be usable?
Posted by: Lazy Messenger at June 07, 2020 08:10 PM (KP12d)
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A lot of wishcasting the polls away based on a very minor miss in 16 (final RCP showed Hillary by 3 and she won by 2) and then nailing it in 18.
Posted by: Baseballisdead at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (uYvGw)
538 gave Cankles a 95% chance of winning
based on what ? wait, wait for it
POLLING, you dunce
Posted by: Baseballisdead at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (uYvGw)
538 gave Cankles a 95% chance of winning
based on what ? wait, wait for it
POLLING, you dunce
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 08:11 PM (JgrP5)
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Posted by: DBCooper at June 07, 2020 08:07 PM (y1Mvi)
Stay safe out there DB, and keep fighting the good fight.
Stay safe out there DB, and keep fighting the good fight.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 07, 2020 08:11 PM (DjiZK)
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With the Minneapolis police department in questionable status the DNC will be an eye opening experience. Hope that it will not be a clusterfu&@, just for all the residents and locals living there.
Posted by: Picric at June 07, 2020 08:11 PM (nonGu)
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Posted by: PacosMojo at June 07, 2020 08:10 PM (NUMhV)
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If we ignore him he might go away. Thanks.
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If we ignore him he might go away. Thanks.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:11 PM (MVjcR)
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I do have a good strong bench that can take any stress or torque from reloading presses with room for components being used at the moment. Unfortunately, I can't get within several feet of it due to all the crap in the garage. So I'm reduced to a press tripod sold by Lee (it works quite well) for reloading. The rest all happens on the dining room table. Fortunately, Mrs. JTB likes the aroma of Hoppe's.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 08:11 PM (7EjX1)
Posted by: PacosMojo at June 07, 2020 08:11 PM (NUMhV)
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Right side of history is very Orwellian sounding
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 07, 2020 08:12 PM (QS6Hw)
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There's a protest going on downtown today. I just looked outside and it's raining. Does it make me a bad person if I laughed?
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:10 PM (OzQGF)
Only if you're praying for lightning...maybe not even that
There's a protest going on downtown today. I just looked outside and it's raining. Does it make me a bad person if I laughed?
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:10 PM (OzQGF)
Only if you're praying for lightning...maybe not even that
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 08:12 PM (P8pUU)
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If you are good out to 300 yards, you're probably better than 85% of shooters out there.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (WEBkv)
Thank you. Really, not to overbrag, I have shot from 250 yards. Decently. And, I can read a ballistics chart.
But when you're playing with the Big Boys, I sit back and watch.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (WEBkv)
Thank you. Really, not to overbrag, I have shot from 250 yards. Decently. And, I can read a ballistics chart.
But when you're playing with the Big Boys, I sit back and watch.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:12 PM (Z4rgH)
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>>> 217 Right side of history is very Orwellian sounding
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 07, 2020 08:12 PM (QS6Hw)
Pretty sure it's one of Marx's BS phrases.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at June 07, 2020 08:12 PM (QS6Hw)
Pretty sure it's one of Marx's BS phrases.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 07, 2020 08:13 PM (0ReGO)
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Assuming I leave the ammo in my car trunk, park it out in the sun every day and in a damp cave overnight, how long would the ammo still be usable?
Heh sounds like my barn. I was serious about the freezer shrink wrap question.
Heh sounds like my barn. I was serious about the freezer shrink wrap question.
Posted by: Piratepatch from the flood zone at June 07, 2020 08:13 PM (M9BrN)
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207 There's a protest going on downtown today. I just looked outside and it's raining. Does it make me a bad person if I laughed?
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:10 PM (OzQGF)
That's not what makes you bad person...
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:10 PM (OzQGF)
That's not what makes you bad person...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:13 PM (NWiLs)
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Willard can always be counted on to say and do the wrong thing at the wrong time.
I wish Jabroni would blow his trumpet and take him home already.
I wish Jabroni would blow his trumpet and take him home already.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 07, 2020 08:14 PM (Z+IKu)
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I think Milwaukee is the site for the 2020 DNC convention.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 07, 2020 08:14 PM (PiwSw)
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"167 A long time ago, leaving the house armed became second nature to me. You are always peripherally aware of it but after time it becomes sort of like wearing boots, or whatever else might be a part of your everyday attire. On the rare occasions that I'm not able to carry, I feel like I left one of my boots at home.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 07, 2020 08:00 PM (EgshT) "
This.
My NAA .22 goes in my pocket when I put on my pants in the morning ... little folding Gerber and a Fenix EO1 go in the left pocket ... I often strap up further when I go out, even just to walk the dog, but I that represents my absolute minimum carry for any occasion.
Knife, flashlight, pistol, don't leave home without it.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 07, 2020 08:00 PM (EgshT) "
This.
My NAA .22 goes in my pocket when I put on my pants in the morning ... little folding Gerber and a Fenix EO1 go in the left pocket ... I often strap up further when I go out, even just to walk the dog, but I that represents my absolute minimum carry for any occasion.
Knife, flashlight, pistol, don't leave home without it.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 08:14 PM (0IMgo)
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Thank you. Really, not to overbrag, I have shot from 250 yards. Decently. And, I can read a ballistics chart.
But when you're playing with the Big Boys, I sit back and watch.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:12 PM (Z4rgH)
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Yep.
Thank you. Really, not to overbrag, I have shot from 250 yards. Decently. And, I can read a ballistics chart.
But when you're playing with the Big Boys, I sit back and watch.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:12 PM (Z4rgH)
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Yep.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 08:15 PM (WEBkv)
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Thank you. Really, not to overbrag, I have shot from 250 yards. Decently. And, I can read a ballistics chart.
But when you're playing with the Big Boys, I sit back and watch.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:12 PM (Z4rgH)
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Long range shooting is pretty much like anything else. Learn the fundamentals and practice. A lot. You can get surprisingly good results at 600 yards with a basic setup.
Thank you. Really, not to overbrag, I have shot from 250 yards. Decently. And, I can read a ballistics chart.
But when you're playing with the Big Boys, I sit back and watch.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:12 PM (Z4rgH)
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Long range shooting is pretty much like anything else. Learn the fundamentals and practice. A lot. You can get surprisingly good results at 600 yards with a basic setup.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:15 PM (03xwg)
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 08:15 PM (JgrP5)
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Posted by: Baseballisdead at June 07, 2020 08:04 PM (uYvGw)
Hasn't Mommy announced it's pleasure time at at casa dead mommy pussy time?
The corpses need humping too.
Hasn't Mommy announced it's pleasure time at at casa dead mommy pussy time?
The corpses need humping too.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:15 PM (Z4rgH)
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I had to go into Milwaukee today and ran into a crowd going to attend yet another Floyd rally. Mainly white kids, carrying coolers and BLM signs. At the same time, I was listening to a radio program about D-Day, with Eisenhower's radio address and interviews with Dick Winters, the real-life "Band of Brothers" hero. And Reagan's 40th anniversary D-Day speech in Normandy. I sat there listening to it and looking at these smug shits going to protest "injustice" and I started crying.
If those troops could have foreseen what these entitled brats are like, would they have attacked that beach? For what?
If those troops could have foreseen what these entitled brats are like, would they have attacked that beach? For what?
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V at June 07, 2020 08:17 PM (HabA/)
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Let's try and forget about the troll. Don't engage and they will get bored and leave.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:17 PM (MVjcR)
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Looks like they've defanged Yosemite Sam, too.
Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam Will Not Use Guns In 'Looney Tunes' Reboot
Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam Will Not Use Guns In 'Looney Tunes' Reboot
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 07, 2020 08:17 PM (+y/Ru)
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Thank you all for the kind words on the 1917. I agree wholeheartedly regarding sporterizing complete original collector guns. I would not have done this had it been even halfway complete. There was no stock or any other furniture and the barrel had been sawn off about 6" in front of the action. It seemed like a reasonable use for it.
On the other hand, for what I spent on it, I could have bought a nice Weatherby and gas for a trip to Montana. Never again.
On the other hand, for what I spent on it, I could have bought a nice Weatherby and gas for a trip to Montana. Never again.
Posted by: Holly at June 07, 2020 08:18 PM (BeME3)
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Heh sounds like my barn. I was serious about the freezer shrink wrap question.
Posted by: Piratepatch from the flood zone at June 07, 2020 08:13 PM (M9BrN)
I wouldn't freeze it, just seems like a bad idea. Moisture freezing and condensing, all that. I know there's milsurp ammo that I've shot that has definitely been frozen, but it was also lacquer-sealed by Russians. Maybe less of a concern for Combloc 7.62x39 or Lake City 5.56, but... just doesn't feel right.
Posted by: Piratepatch from the flood zone at June 07, 2020 08:13 PM (M9BrN)
I wouldn't freeze it, just seems like a bad idea. Moisture freezing and condensing, all that. I know there's milsurp ammo that I've shot that has definitely been frozen, but it was also lacquer-sealed by Russians. Maybe less of a concern for Combloc 7.62x39 or Lake City 5.56, but... just doesn't feel right.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 08:18 PM (t+qrx)
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232 Looks like they've defanged Yosemite Sam, too.
Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam Will Not Use Guns In 'Looney Tunes' Reboot
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 07, 2020 08:17 PM (+y/Ru)
No rootin or tootin either?
Elmer Fudd, Yosemite Sam Will Not Use Guns In 'Looney Tunes' Reboot
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 07, 2020 08:17 PM (+y/Ru)
No rootin or tootin either?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:18 PM (NWiLs)
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Trying different rounds through my Mossberg 500. Have become enamored of the shorties; a mix of 9 slugs and 00. The slug shorties have a surprising kick. Nothing compares to the Winchester 2 3/4 PDX slug. It was painful to shoot.
Posted by: EdmundBurkesShade at June 07, 2020 08:18 PM (IBMDj)
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Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 08:14 PM (0IMgo)
I carry my KelTec P 3AT everywhere and I mean everywhere. Only place I haven't carried it is where there are metal detectors.
I carry my KelTec P 3AT everywhere and I mean everywhere. Only place I haven't carried it is where there are metal detectors.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 08:18 PM (2DOZq)
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Hi Jordan!
I'd laugh at them as well.
I'd love to see a B-52 drop a load of pea gravel on the rioters.
But then,,I'm not a nice person.
Howdy Nurse
I've concealed and open carried. It puts a lot of pressure on you because you really don't want to have to kill someone. It's a really crappy thing and the hassle from the cops and DA is going to take all your time and money.
Stay safe there. We've even had marches here in E-burg. The protesters are upset because the city cops won't take a knee to them. So far the police here have been good. No trouble, some noise and street/traffic blockage but no damage.
I'd laugh at them as well.
I'd love to see a B-52 drop a load of pea gravel on the rioters.
But then,,I'm not a nice person.
Howdy Nurse
I've concealed and open carried. It puts a lot of pressure on you because you really don't want to have to kill someone. It's a really crappy thing and the hassle from the cops and DA is going to take all your time and money.
Stay safe there. We've even had marches here in E-burg. The protesters are upset because the city cops won't take a knee to them. So far the police here have been good. No trouble, some noise and street/traffic blockage but no damage.
Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at June 07, 2020 08:19 PM (d9Irc)
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That's not what makes you bad person...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:13 PM (NWiLs)
I can always count on you, Insom. LOL.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:13 PM (NWiLs)
I can always count on you, Insom. LOL.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:19 PM (OzQGF)
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237 Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 08:14 PM (0IMgo)
I carry my KelTec P 3AT everywhere and I mean everywhere. Only place I haven't carried it is where there are metal detectors.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 08:18 PM (2DOZq)
*fistbump*
I carry my KelTec P 3AT everywhere and I mean everywhere. Only place I haven't carried it is where there are metal detectors.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 08:18 PM (2DOZq)
*fistbump*
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:19 PM (NWiLs)
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Posted by: Holly at June 07, 2020 08:18 PM (BeME3)
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You did absolutely the right thing. It's a beauty!
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You did absolutely the right thing. It's a beauty!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:19 PM (03xwg)
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"189 Nurse, I agree, when you carry, the actual responsibility weighs on you. However... Your life is worth a lot to the morons on AoS. Them or you, I would pick you every time.
Posted by: Jesse in DC at June 07, 2020 08:05 PM (ouR/N) "
Endorsed wholeheartedly.
Posted by: Jesse in DC at June 07, 2020 08:05 PM (ouR/N) "
Endorsed wholeheartedly.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 08:19 PM (0IMgo)
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White Protesters Wash The Feet Of Black Protest Organizers
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Well, isn't that nice?
https://bit.ly/3cO0X8c
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Well, isn't that nice?
https://bit.ly/3cO0X8c
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (+y/Ru)
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As badly as Elmer and Sam used their guns in the original cartoons you would think that would help sell the gun control agenda.
Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (eMtQa)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (WEBkv)
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Nurse R, welcome to the world of responsible carry.
It is a powerful emotion knowing that you have lethal force on you. And it makes you game out every scenario when you step out the door.
It is a powerful emotion knowing that you have lethal force on you. And it makes you game out every scenario when you step out the door.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (81P5W)
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My father kept guns and ammo in the house unsecured when we were growing up, even when we were very young. He made it clear that if we touched them and didn't end up dead we'd wish we were. But that was back in the days when punishment was real, excessive even, so the threat was more than credible.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: CihComs at June 07, 2020 08:21 PM (JgrP5)
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Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (WEBkv)
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See ya, blake!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (WEBkv)
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See ya, blake!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:21 PM (MVjcR)
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1 One of my hesitations is having young children at home. I want to ask advice about secure storage yet having things at the ready quickly. I know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to assume it is not impossible
Posted by: InCali at June 07,
The others from California know more than I do but I think there are safes that use your thumbprint for quick access. We have no kids so that's not an issue for us.
Go to your local gun store. They will help you.
Some of my friends with kids use these for quick access to handguns in their bedroom.
Posted by: InCali at June 07,
The others from California know more than I do but I think there are safes that use your thumbprint for quick access. We have no kids so that's not an issue for us.
Go to your local gun store. They will help you.
Some of my friends with kids use these for quick access to handguns in their bedroom.
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 07, 2020 08:21 PM (7bcfy)
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That sporterized 1917 is absolutely magnificent. Same here, not a big fan of sporterizing, but wow, this was done right, as Weasel noted, BIGLY. Awesome job..
Posted by: Sua Sponte at June 07, 2020 08:21 PM (cdNcj)
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Posted by: PacosMojo at June 07, 2020 08:10 PM (NUMhV)
All that was before a white Democrat killed a black Democrat in a Democrat city indicating the need to vote for more Democrats...because.
All that was before a white Democrat killed a black Democrat in a Democrat city indicating the need to vote for more Democrats...because.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at June 07, 2020 08:22 PM (ExV1e)
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fistbump*
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:19 PM (NWiLs)
Wait let me put my glove on.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:19 PM (NWiLs)
Wait let me put my glove on.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 08:22 PM (2DOZq)
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BTW, DBCooper, I have jealousy. What a rig. But if I ever go to that course you took, I suspect my later credit will be taking a beating.
Good on ya.
Good on ya.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 08:22 PM (81P5W)
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Re: kids and guns, I certainly won't presume to tell anyone else how to raise their kids but here's what worked for us. Normal safety precautions of course but beyond that, we never tried to "hide" the guns from the kids. They were told early and often that they were never to touch the guns without a parent there* but if they ever wanted to see or handle them, all they had to do was ask and I would drop whatever I was doing and show them any of the guns in a safe setting. When they were old enough (7 or 8-ish) I would make it a point to invite them along on every trip to the range. As of now, both in their mid-20s, neither is particularly interested in guns or shooting as an activity but maybe they'll come back around to it.
* Basic Eddie Eagle stuff
* Basic Eddie Eagle stuff
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:23 PM (qc+VF)
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Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (H5knJ)
Yeah my dad kept his .38 in his nightstand. I knew better. Also he let me shoot it anytime I wanted to anyway.
Yeah my dad kept his .38 in his nightstand. I knew better. Also he let me shoot it anytime I wanted to anyway.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 08:24 PM (2DOZq)
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I actually have the M1917's English cousin - the Pattern 14 in .303. Beautiful condition, and the .303 has much less recoil than a Springfield in .30-06. A definite keeper, though not as valuable as the M1917...
JustDave in GR
JustDave in GR
Posted by: JustDave in GR at June 07, 2020 08:24 PM (KBiU/)
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255 Re: kids and guns, I certainly won't presume to tell anyone else how to raise their kids but here's what worked for us. Normal safety precautions of course but beyond that, we never tried to "hide" the guns from the kids. They were told early and often that they were never to touch the guns without a parent there* but if they ever wanted to see or handle them, all they had to do was ask and I would drop whatever I was doing and show them any of the guns in a safe setting. When they were old enough (7 or 8-ish) I would make it a point to invite them along on every trip to the range. As of now, both in their mid-20s, neither is particularly interested in guns or shooting as an activity but maybe they'll come back around to it.
* Basic Eddie Eagle stuff
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:23 PM (qc+VF)
That was my approach as well.
* Basic Eddie Eagle stuff
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:23 PM (qc+VF)
That was my approach as well.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:25 PM (NWiLs)
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Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:23 PM (qc+VF)
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Sounds like a smart way to approach it.
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Sounds like a smart way to approach it.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:25 PM (MVjcR)
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Mitt fucking Romney is marching with BLM. In the words of Gomer Pyle, "sooprize, sooprize, sooprize."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at June 07, 2020 08:25 PM (H8QX8)
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Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at June 07, 2020 08:19 PM (d9Irc)
Hi Winston. This protest is really quiet so far. We'll see what happens when the sun goes down. The cops here took a knee with the protesters last week, ugh.
Hi Winston. This protest is really quiet so far. We'll see what happens when the sun goes down. The cops here took a knee with the protesters last week, ugh.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:25 PM (OzQGF)
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Didn't get to the range yesterday. Had to do husband stuff for the wife.
I did buy a second CZ P-07. It's being shipped to my neighborhood FFL and then will immediately be mailed out again to the CZ Custom shop. I'm getting it converted to DAO. The DA trigger pull of the CZ P-07 is the finest I've ever felt.
I did buy a second CZ P-07. It's being shipped to my neighborhood FFL and then will immediately be mailed out again to the CZ Custom shop. I'm getting it converted to DAO. The DA trigger pull of the CZ P-07 is the finest I've ever felt.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 07, 2020 08:25 PM (d1uFV)
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As I have pointed out there are about 20,000 shooters in Texas better than I am. I'm comfortable with that. I'm also comfortable with the fact that everyone in Antifa thinks they can shoot better than me.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 08:26 PM (0l/6b)
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i have binders of black people.
Posted by: Mitt Rombley at June 07, 2020 08:26 PM (H5knJ)
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My father kept guns and ammo in the house unsecured when we were growing up, even when we were very young. He made it clear that if we touched them and didn't end up dead we'd wish we were. But that was back in the days when punishment was real, excessive even, so the threat was more than credible.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (H5knJ)
This may seem like foolish sentimentality, but it isn't. It is how I was raised. Dad handed me an empty gun one day, and let me check it out. He even taught me how to verify that.
It's just a piece of steel and wood, until you make it something different.
It is INTENT that changes its nature. Rocks ain't very dangerous until you knapp them into arrowheads or axes. And strap them to handles.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (H5knJ)
This may seem like foolish sentimentality, but it isn't. It is how I was raised. Dad handed me an empty gun one day, and let me check it out. He even taught me how to verify that.
It's just a piece of steel and wood, until you make it something different.
It is INTENT that changes its nature. Rocks ain't very dangerous until you knapp them into arrowheads or axes. And strap them to handles.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:27 PM (Z4rgH)
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My garage-stored ammo may sort of approximate car-trunk storage, probably not quite as extreme, but 15 - 20 years or more for my experience in that case.
I am packing a Harbor Freight plastic ammo-can right now with a box or two of most common calibers around here for just-in-case in the car I am mostly driving lately, so ask again in 20 years, lol.
I am packing a Harbor Freight plastic ammo-can right now with a box or two of most common calibers around here for just-in-case in the car I am mostly driving lately, so ask again in 20 years, lol.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 08:27 PM (0IMgo)
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Rumors flying all over twitter that NYPD Commissioner & the Chief of Police have either resigned or been fired.
Additional rumors that 100's of cops (saw tweets quoting 300-800) taking early retirement.
Additional rumors that 100's of cops (saw tweets quoting 300-800) taking early retirement.
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 08:27 PM (cF8AT)
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I wonder if any of the liberals now buying guns will connect the dots and stop voting for the party of letting other people steal their stuff and burn their house down.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 08:27 PM (nAiE/)
Posted by: clutch at June 07, 2020 08:28 PM (9UmRs)
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Emmie, if you are still around. Here is the video I was talking about. Now that I listened again, he specifically mentions Sigs. The thing I remembered wrong, was that it is the thumb of my right hand which was causing the problem. It was a bit too high.
https://tinyurl.com/ybasfy4r
re: slide not locking back on last round
https://tinyurl.com/ybasfy4r
re: slide not locking back on last round
Posted by: MikeM at June 07, 2020 08:28 PM (tBXtC)
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at June 07, 2020 08:28 PM (af5xa)
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* Basic Eddie Eagle stuff
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:23 PM (qc+VF)
I agree with you that is the safest way to have weapons around kids.
I believe in California you can get in trouble for having a loaded weapon where kids can get to it. you have to have Ammo kept separate and the trigger lock on the gun.
I may be wrong
* Basic Eddie Eagle stuff
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:23 PM (qc+VF)
I agree with you that is the safest way to have weapons around kids.
I believe in California you can get in trouble for having a loaded weapon where kids can get to it. you have to have Ammo kept separate and the trigger lock on the gun.
I may be wrong
Posted by: CaliGirl at June 07, 2020 08:29 PM (7bcfy)
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268 I wonder if any of the liberals now buying guns will connect the dots and stop voting for the party of letting other people steal their stuff and burn their house down.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 08:27 PM (nAiE/)
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That's kind of where I was going in the post. Let's hope so!
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 08:27 PM (nAiE/)
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That's kind of where I was going in the post. Let's hope so!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:29 PM (03xwg)
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153 "126 I find that I am more frightened than when I dont carry.
Help?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 07:45 PM (8viKR)
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Added responsibility because you stand ready to put yourself between people who intend harm and those who wish to go on about their business.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv) "
Fully seconded. It will pass, with time
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 07:55 PM (0IMgo)
Yep. I was scared to when I started carrying daily.
Help?
Posted by: Nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 07:45 PM (8viKR)
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Added responsibility because you stand ready to put yourself between people who intend harm and those who wish to go on about their business.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv) "
Fully seconded. It will pass, with time
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 07:55 PM (0IMgo)
Yep. I was scared to when I started carrying daily.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 07, 2020 08:30 PM (d1uFV)
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Jordan
I saw that. Disgusting.
They still had a riot though as I recall. Not as bad as Seattle's but still.
CdA is still a little tense as well. No big things, kids on street corners with signs. Fewer armed men and women around but still plenty there. I hope it stays calm.
We watched some of the DC street theater live yesterday. Dee had not been to protests before.
I enjoyed pointing out that maybe 2-5% were true believers, 60%, mostly males, were there to try to get laid and the balance just wanted to say they were at the party.
I saw that. Disgusting.
They still had a riot though as I recall. Not as bad as Seattle's but still.
CdA is still a little tense as well. No big things, kids on street corners with signs. Fewer armed men and women around but still plenty there. I hope it stays calm.
We watched some of the DC street theater live yesterday. Dee had not been to protests before.
I enjoyed pointing out that maybe 2-5% were true believers, 60%, mostly males, were there to try to get laid and the balance just wanted to say they were at the party.
Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at June 07, 2020 08:30 PM (d9Irc)
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Interesting about the trigger weights.
Factory weights seem so heavy, way past
safety concerns. Especially pistols.
Any comments or sources of information
about that?
Factory weights seem so heavy, way past
safety concerns. Especially pistols.
Any comments or sources of information
about that?
Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2020 08:30 PM (TAe5w)
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Count me in with the "do not hide guns from kids" bunch. Guns are a tool.
As is a Milwaukee port-a-band. Or skil-saw. I don't keep those in a safe either.
Any gun unloaded, locked in a vault, is a gun useless to me when I need it.
As is a Milwaukee port-a-band. Or skil-saw. I don't keep those in a safe either.
Any gun unloaded, locked in a vault, is a gun useless to me when I need it.
Posted by: Cause and Effect at June 07, 2020 08:31 PM (4EqBd)
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 08:31 PM (JgrP5)
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I actually have the M1917's English cousin - the Pattern 14 in .303. Beautiful condition, and the .303 has much less recoil than a Springfield in .30-06. A definite keeper, though not as valuable as the M1917...
JustDave in GR
Posted by: JustDave in GR at June 07, 2020 08:24 PM (KBiU/)
Actually the M1917's English Daddy! Nice JustDave!
I have never seen a P14 but I am always on the lookout for one.
JustDave in GR
Posted by: JustDave in GR at June 07, 2020 08:24 PM (KBiU/)
Actually the M1917's English Daddy! Nice JustDave!
I have never seen a P14 but I am always on the lookout for one.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 07, 2020 08:31 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at June 07, 2020 08:32 PM (af5xa)
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Someone posted this earlier but it needs repeating:
Tom Arnold
2nd Amendment is for everyone including black men with long guns but it's fucking time for us white liberal men to stand up for our brothers sisters. Borrow our dad's hunting rifles go nose to nose with Trump's gang of misfit tools. Let's do it @robreiner
OH NOES!!! Tom Arnold and Meathead are going to get us with their dad's hunting rifles
Someone posted this earlier but it needs repeating:
Tom Arnold
2nd Amendment is for everyone including black men with long guns but it's fucking time for us white liberal men to stand up for our brothers sisters. Borrow our dad's hunting rifles go nose to nose with Trump's gang of misfit tools. Let's do it @robreiner
OH NOES!!! Tom Arnold and Meathead are going to get us with their dad's hunting rifles
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 08:33 PM (P8pUU)
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FWIW, the 870 is modified with a Vangcomp ported barrel and "stuff" to include an extended mag tube. With the small "personal defense" rounds available, I can get 13 rounds in the Machine. OO, Slug, other esoteric rounds. I've tested it with all of them. Do have to be careful not to short stroke it, tho.
McGyver, over
McGyver, over
Posted by: McGyver at June 07, 2020 08:33 PM (8qEAs)
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Hey, it is OK to post porn here?
AntiFa chased out of town by Hell's Angles
https://tinyurl.com/y7cys6dt
AntiFa chased out of town by Hell's Angles
https://tinyurl.com/y7cys6dt
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at June 07, 2020 08:34 PM (af5xa)
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I'm with Hogmartin on the s&w AR. Hard to beat for the price, and ready to go out of the box.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Shouldn't we say cops are mostly peaceful? at June 07, 2020 08:34 PM (wXOk6)
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280 Hey, it is OK to post porn here?
https://tinyurl.com/y7cys6dt
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at June 07, 2020 08:32 PM (af5xa)
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Ha! Nice.
https://tinyurl.com/y7cys6dt
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at June 07, 2020 08:32 PM (af5xa)
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Ha! Nice.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:34 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 08:34 PM (MxIn6)
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Added responsibility because you stand ready to put yourself between people who intend harm and those who wish to go on about their business.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv) "
Fully seconded. It will pass, with time
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 07:55 PM (0IMgo)
Yep. I was scared to when I started carrying daily.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 07, 2020 08:30 PM (d1uFV)
Looks like I'm the odd man out. It didn't make me nervous at all.
I might add, when I first started carrying, I was nervous.
Now, second nature.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 07, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv) "
Fully seconded. It will pass, with time
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 07:55 PM (0IMgo)
Yep. I was scared to when I started carrying daily.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 07, 2020 08:30 PM (d1uFV)
Looks like I'm the odd man out. It didn't make me nervous at all.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:34 PM (NWiLs)
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Yep. I was scared to when I started carrying daily.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 07, 2020 08:30 PM (d1uFV)
Yes. It is a responsibility, greater than a cop's. You, if you fuck up, will be judged harsher, and with less support.
Which is why the permitters are less likely to be charged than any others. We know.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 07, 2020 08:30 PM (d1uFV)
Yes. It is a responsibility, greater than a cop's. You, if you fuck up, will be judged harsher, and with less support.
Which is why the permitters are less likely to be charged than any others. We know.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:34 PM (Z4rgH)
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When I come home I hang up a G17Gen4 and 2 mags. When I go out (church this evening) I strap on a G19Gen2 and 2 mags. I feel naked if I don't. Been doing it for a long time. GOD Bless Texas.
Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2020 08:34 PM (XhWtx)
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So, Tom Arnold has discovered that the 2A doesn't have a racial exclusion.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at June 07, 2020 08:34 PM (ExV1e)
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I wonder if any of the liberals now buying guns will connect the dots and stop voting for the party of letting other people steal their stuff and burn their house down.
Probably about the same time the Law and Order folks look up, realize that LEOs enforce the whims of certain Mayors and Governors, and maybe consider not supporting buying another MRAP on the public dime.
Leftists ain't the only ones addicted to talking points.
Probably about the same time the Law and Order folks look up, realize that LEOs enforce the whims of certain Mayors and Governors, and maybe consider not supporting buying another MRAP on the public dime.
Leftists ain't the only ones addicted to talking points.
Posted by: Cause and Effect at June 07, 2020 08:35 PM (4EqBd)
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I store all of my ammo in surplus US ammunition boxes. Over years, I have used basements, my shop, pretty much anywhere. As long as the seals on the lid are good and seal, I expect my ammo to last at least as long as I will.
I have some Iraqi 303, who knows how old, and how stored in the past. It all fires, but some is "Click- pause- Bang" stuff. I think I will give it to a buddy, and he will disassenble it and re use the components. This is the only bad ammo I have ever had
I have some Iraqi 303, who knows how old, and how stored in the past. It all fires, but some is "Click- pause- Bang" stuff. I think I will give it to a buddy, and he will disassenble it and re use the components. This is the only bad ammo I have ever had
Posted by: Jesse in DC at June 07, 2020 08:35 PM (ouR/N)
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Big shakeup coming at NYPD.
My sources (wow, I have sources!) tell me there will be a new commish (black man) and a new Chief of Dept. (black woman.)
My sources (wow, I have sources!) tell me there will be a new commish (black man) and a new Chief of Dept. (black woman.)
Posted by: IrishEi at June 07, 2020 08:35 PM (sGotD)
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That Tom Arnold tweet is almost as coherent as a Raimondo post.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 07, 2020 08:35 PM (H5knJ)
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286 Weasel, message received. Will reply in the morning.
Thank You for the great gun thread.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 08:34 PM (MxIn6)
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Anything for you, Ben Had!
Thank You for the great gun thread.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 08:34 PM (MxIn6)
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Anything for you, Ben Had!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:36 PM (MVjcR)
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there were plenty of weak, scared people who sieg heiled their asses off to the Nazis
then claimed it was all an act
then claimed it was all an act
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 08:36 PM (JgrP5)
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Ola ca va? Still cleaning out the gun room trying to massage 10 lbs of crap into a 3 lb bag, ie fit all my crap still left in the room which will be the walk in gun safe, out and into the workshop/man cave which is full of transit cases, ammo lockers, mills, lathes, motersicles, reloading and cleaning benches, etc, etc. One good thing was as I was cleaning off the top of one locker was the discovery of all my WWI pistol leather holsters , Webley, Luger, Smith and Wesson, etc. As I thought they needed a bit of leather cleaning I set to. One was a highly modified British Webley issue holster with a cleaning rod in place and I thought that's been used by a pro. A very useful holster for the trenches, so as I was cleaning it, under the flap was the rank, name and unit of the WW1 owner. The magic letters NZMGC. I will let you guess what that means, but to me its effing priceless as I identify with it. I did not realise that, the info was hidden there. Going to do some more research on the owner and dig out the pistol to more closely check it out, but that will go amoungst pride of place when the gun room is finally finished. Finally some good news.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:36 PM (bgJ0E)
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wonder if any of the liberals now buying guns will connect the dots and stop voting for the party of letting other people steal their stuff and burn their house down.
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Ha. The same people who are convinced the parties switched names in the 60s and that defunding police departments will decrease violence in the black community?
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Ha. The same people who are convinced the parties switched names in the 60s and that defunding police departments will decrease violence in the black community?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Shouldn't we say cops are mostly peaceful? at June 07, 2020 08:36 PM (wXOk6)
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I wonder if any of the liberals now buying guns will connect the dots and stop voting for the party of letting other people steal their stuff and burn their house down.
I had this exact conversation yesterday. I would like to think that at least some of the first time gun buyers will stop and think "You know, all those people who told me that guns were bad, that gun owners were toothless hicks, and that the police would protect me... I wonder what else they might have been lying to me about." But realistically, nah, 99.9% of them will pull the same lever in November that they always do without ever making the connection.
I had this exact conversation yesterday. I would like to think that at least some of the first time gun buyers will stop and think "You know, all those people who told me that guns were bad, that gun owners were toothless hicks, and that the police would protect me... I wonder what else they might have been lying to me about." But realistically, nah, 99.9% of them will pull the same lever in November that they always do without ever making the connection.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:36 PM (qc+VF)
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ig shakeup coming at NYPD.
My sources (wow, I have sources!) tell me there will be a new commish (black man) and a new Chief of Dept. (black woman.)
Posted by: IrishEi at June 07, 2020 08:35 PM (sGotD)
Yes, that will make everything ALL BETTER.
I hope to hell my cousins and their kids quit.
My sources (wow, I have sources!) tell me there will be a new commish (black man) and a new Chief of Dept. (black woman.)
Posted by: IrishEi at June 07, 2020 08:35 PM (sGotD)
Yes, that will make everything ALL BETTER.
I hope to hell my cousins and their kids quit.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:37 PM (OzQGF)
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I had this exact conversation yesterday. I would like to think that at least some of the first time gun buyers will stop and think "You know, all those people who told me that guns were bad, that gun owners were toothless hicks, and that the police would protect me... I wonder what else they might have been lying to me about." But realistically, nah, 99.9% of them will pull the same lever in November that they always do without ever making the connection.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:36 PM (qc+VF)
Changing a worldview and habits formed and kept over an entire lifetime are difficult and often painful to change. It's much easier not to.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:36 PM (qc+VF)
Changing a worldview and habits formed and kept over an entire lifetime are difficult and often painful to change. It's much easier not to.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (NWiLs)
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I honestly think Trump is going to have to send the military into NYC
Posted by: Jmel at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (OeWgo)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (MVjcR)
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I think we should have a defund police test city. 30 Days of Night real
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 07, 2020 08:39 PM (nFRLh)
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302 I honestly think Trump is going to have to send the military into NYC
Posted by: Jmel at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (OeWgo)
nope, he will let it burn
Posted by: Jmel at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (OeWgo)
nope, he will let it burn
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 08:39 PM (JgrP5)
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265 My father kept guns and ammo in the house unsecured when we were growing up, even when we were very young. He made it clear that if we touched them and didn't end up dead we'd wish we were. But that was back in the days when punishment was real, excessive even, so the threat was more than credible.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (H5knJ)
It was a simple thing around my house.
We were taught the word "NO" at a very young age.
It could be a weapon, a saw, a bowl of soup. No.
Once that word No is secured in the brain. No worries.
Back when I had the discussion my opinion was age six; his professional opinion was that eight years of age was it.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 07, 2020 08:20 PM (H5knJ)
It was a simple thing around my house.
We were taught the word "NO" at a very young age.
It could be a weapon, a saw, a bowl of soup. No.
Once that word No is secured in the brain. No worries.
Back when I had the discussion my opinion was age six; his professional opinion was that eight years of age was it.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2020 08:40 PM (TAe5w)
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I remember trying out for a PD and you had to pull an (unloaded, dry fire) Glock, 17 times in 30 seconds.
And there were people who couldn't do it.
And there were people who couldn't do it.
Posted by: navybrat, waiting by the door with a 2 x 4 at June 07, 2020 08:41 PM (w7KSn)
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If the lines weren't out the door already, I'd suggest that gun shop owners go on a baking spree and post signs that say "Come To The Dark Side-We Have Cookies!"
Posted by: pookysgirl, gun saleswoman at June 07, 2020 08:42 PM (XKZwp)
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Rumors flying all over twitter that NYPD Commissioner the Chief of Police have either resigned or been fired.
Additional rumors that 100's of cops (saw tweets quoting 300-800) taking early retirement.
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 08:27 PM (cF8AT)
Hopefully they resigned.
And hopefully, the mayor is going to be told he can hire private security to keep him safe because there are not enough police to spare.
Additional rumors that 100's of cops (saw tweets quoting 300-800) taking early retirement.
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 08:27 PM (cF8AT)
Hopefully they resigned.
And hopefully, the mayor is going to be told he can hire private security to keep him safe because there are not enough police to spare.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 08:42 PM (nAiE/)
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the left thinks that if they get rid of the police and things go south
they will able to have it back overnight
much like their ideas on single payer health care
doesn't work that way
they will able to have it back overnight
much like their ideas on single payer health care
doesn't work that way
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 08:42 PM (JgrP5)
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302 I honestly think Trump is going to have to send the military into NYC
Posted by: Jmel at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (OeWgo)
Until NYC citizens turn out, en masse, begging for that - the answer must remain no.
NYC is entitled to self-rule, same as anywhere else. And they are demonstrating the level of Law and Order they prefer.
Some residents disagree. But they are a minority - yet they stay. Some residents where I live hate the local gun culture. Yet, no chains bind them here either.
Posted by: Jmel at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (OeWgo)
Until NYC citizens turn out, en masse, begging for that - the answer must remain no.
NYC is entitled to self-rule, same as anywhere else. And they are demonstrating the level of Law and Order they prefer.
Some residents disagree. But they are a minority - yet they stay. Some residents where I live hate the local gun culture. Yet, no chains bind them here either.
Posted by: Cause and Effect at June 07, 2020 08:43 PM (4EqBd)
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303 Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:36 PM (bgJ0E)
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Howdy, Amigo!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (MVjcR)
Howdy back. Hows the new pet arrival going?
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Howdy, Amigo!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (MVjcR)
Howdy back. Hows the new pet arrival going?
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:43 PM (bgJ0E)
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Going to do some more research on the owner and dig out the pistol to more closely check it out, but that will go amoungst pride of place when the gun room is finally finished. Finally some good news.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:36 PM (bgJ0E)
Very Nice NZFrank! I have a Carcano M41 that when I cleaned it up had little etches behind the trigger guard like you see on a calendar.
I guess the owner was keeping track of something....
I also have a VZ 52 which was liberated from Central America at some point with "PACO" scratched into the stock. Poor Paco, lost his rifle.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:36 PM (bgJ0E)
Very Nice NZFrank! I have a Carcano M41 that when I cleaned it up had little etches behind the trigger guard like you see on a calendar.
I guess the owner was keeping track of something....
I also have a VZ 52 which was liberated from Central America at some point with "PACO" scratched into the stock. Poor Paco, lost his rifle.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 07, 2020 08:43 PM (Z+IKu)
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@204:
"There is zero difference between the real Mittens and the JoeF. mock Mittens"
Joe F.'s mockery is awesome, though. There is also zero difference between Romney and these virtue signaling companies donating to BLM. They have the same motives--being eaten last--and it is transparent. I really hope Romney meets up with Antifa, they say "howdy," and Mitt's piss is bloody for weeks.
"There is zero difference between the real Mittens and the JoeF. mock Mittens"
Joe F.'s mockery is awesome, though. There is also zero difference between Romney and these virtue signaling companies donating to BLM. They have the same motives--being eaten last--and it is transparent. I really hope Romney meets up with Antifa, they say "howdy," and Mitt's piss is bloody for weeks.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2020 08:44 PM (puu6v)
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That's what the faces will look like on the conservative side this time.
Not answering the Poll Troll. But our sides faces never look like that. As adults we realize things can go disastrously wrong for the country, and that the variety of con men on the left can occasionally fool enough people to win. The left's faces look like that because they are basically adolescents and children subject to tantrums when things go badly for them.
Not answering the Poll Troll. But our sides faces never look like that. As adults we realize things can go disastrously wrong for the country, and that the variety of con men on the left can occasionally fool enough people to win. The left's faces look like that because they are basically adolescents and children subject to tantrums when things go badly for them.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 08:44 PM (0l/6b)
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The professional shocked me. He said he security weapon was the 1911. Kept them around the house.
Loaded. He had three boys.
Said by the time they were old enough to rack the slide they were old enough to understand it and respect the word NO.
Loaded. He had three boys.
Said by the time they were old enough to rack the slide they were old enough to understand it and respect the word NO.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2020 08:44 PM (TAe5w)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2020 08:45 PM (aKsyK)
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I could be wrong but Carl Reiner never struck me as much of a hunter.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:45 PM (qc+VF)
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My sources (wow, I have sources!) tell me there will be a new commish (black man) and a new Chief of Dept. (black woman.)
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hahahahaha
(snort)
Just like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc.
Oh boy. Get ready, NY. Your party is just getting started.
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hahahahaha
(snort)
Just like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc.
Oh boy. Get ready, NY. Your party is just getting started.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 08:45 PM (KxZpr)
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Private security.
Right there is a field, while already very big, is going to ramp up big time.
Right there is a field, while already very big, is going to ramp up big time.
Posted by: navybrat, waiting by the door with a 2 x 4 at June 07, 2020 08:46 PM (w7KSn)
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And hopefully, the mayor is going to be told he can
hire private security to keep him safe because there are not enough
police to spare.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 08:42 PM (nAiE/)
Do police have to provide security for sporting events? Just hoping it's an option they can turn down for the NBA and NFL. Tell both leagues to get fcked and they have to hire private security for every game and make them pay through the teeth for it
hire private security to keep him safe because there are not enough
police to spare.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 08:42 PM (nAiE/)
Do police have to provide security for sporting events? Just hoping it's an option they can turn down for the NBA and NFL. Tell both leagues to get fcked and they have to hire private security for every game and make them pay through the teeth for it
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 08:46 PM (P8pUU)
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147:
"A city run like a college campus. Parts of the city look like a war zone so go ahead destroy the rest of it comrades on the march to your Marxist utopia"
Evergreen University, to be exact, and the results will be the same.
"A city run like a college campus. Parts of the city look like a war zone so go ahead destroy the rest of it comrades on the march to your Marxist utopia"
Evergreen University, to be exact, and the results will be the same.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2020 08:46 PM (puu6v)
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This is so utterly bizarre I don't know what to make of it. Cary, NC. Uhm, gun related...well, they might get their guns wet. The cops, I mean.
Timcast also has this. This link is to TMZ
https://tinyurl.com/y9v25nyp
This is so utterly bizarre I don't know what to make of it. Cary, NC. Uhm, gun related...well, they might get their guns wet. The cops, I mean.
Timcast also has this. This link is to TMZ
https://tinyurl.com/y9v25nyp
Posted by: Gooshy at June 07, 2020 08:47 PM (DCVgi)
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Howdy back. Hows the new pet arrival going?
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:43 PM (bgJ0E)
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Most excellent, thank you for asking! WDv2 is starting to show his personality and holy crap is he ever a cute little nugget. We've started to fatten him up because he is severely malnourished. We weighs six pounds and should probably be 10 or 11 pounds.
Howdy back. Hows the new pet arrival going?
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:43 PM (bgJ0E)
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Most excellent, thank you for asking! WDv2 is starting to show his personality and holy crap is he ever a cute little nugget. We've started to fatten him up because he is severely malnourished. We weighs six pounds and should probably be 10 or 11 pounds.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:47 PM (MVjcR)
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Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 07, 2020 08:43 PM (Z+IKu)
Ahh the famous Carcano M41. Never fired and only dropped once, I presume.
Ahh the famous Carcano M41. Never fired and only dropped once, I presume.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:47 PM (bgJ0E)
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ThanX! Weasel and the Horde. I must off to bed as tomorrow comes waaaay to early. G'nite, All!
McGyver, out
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at June 07, 2020 08:47 PM (8qEAs)
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I could be wrong but Carl Reiner never struck me as much of a hunter.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:45 PM (qc+VF)
They can borrow 2 from Arnold's dad. According to that douche's twitter he grew up on a farm in Iowa so that means he's a regular Sgt. York
I could be wrong but Carl Reiner never struck me as much of a hunter.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 08:45 PM (qc+VF)
They can borrow 2 from Arnold's dad. According to that douche's twitter he grew up on a farm in Iowa so that means he's a regular Sgt. York
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 08:48 PM (P8pUU)
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Dammit. My dad didn't have a hunting rifle. I guess I'm out of luck.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with haircut at June 07, 2020 08:48 PM (WD9ZA)
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Until NYC citizens turn out, en masse, begging for that - the answer must remain no.
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I feel that same way with all cities and states. And when the feds do go in, it comes with an agreement that all the people who got things to that point are fired and have no more influence, and a five year window of people with no connections or interest in the local BS coming in to stabilize the situation.
But first is begging. Weeks and weeks of begging.
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I feel that same way with all cities and states. And when the feds do go in, it comes with an agreement that all the people who got things to that point are fired and have no more influence, and a five year window of people with no connections or interest in the local BS coming in to stabilize the situation.
But first is begging. Weeks and weeks of begging.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 08:48 PM (KxZpr)
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" ...
Changing a worldview and habits formed and kept over an entire lifetime are difficult and often painful to change. It's much easier not to.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (NWiLs) "
or as some RAH character said (paraphrased): " ... it's easier to die than it is to think."
Changing a worldview and habits formed and kept over an entire lifetime are difficult and often painful to change. It's much easier not to.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (NWiLs) "
or as some RAH character said (paraphrased): " ... it's easier to die than it is to think."
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 08:48 PM (0IMgo)
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Kin I get me a huntin' license here?
Posted by: John Kerry at June 07, 2020 08:49 PM (WD9ZA)
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"I can't help but wonder how many of these are first time gun owners, and people who have previously been uninterested in guns and self defense."
And some who just finally had an opportunity to buy a couple. (Along with motivation provided by our autocratic legislature and arrogant baby-murdering governor.)
And some who just finally had an opportunity to buy a couple. (Along with motivation provided by our autocratic legislature and arrogant baby-murdering governor.)
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 08:49 PM (Uf/DD)
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or as some RAH character said (paraphrased): " ... it's easier to die than it is to think."
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 08:48 PM (0IMgo)
Dying is easy.
Comedy is hard!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 08:48 PM (0IMgo)
Dying is easy.
Comedy is hard!
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 08:49 PM (V2Yro)
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This is so utterly bizarre I don't know what to make of it. Cary, NC
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Yankees. They took that town over years ago.
NC black population 22%
Raleigh, NC 29%
Cary, NC 8%
But yeah, Cary believes black lives matter.
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Yankees. They took that town over years ago.
NC black population 22%
Raleigh, NC 29%
Cary, NC 8%
But yeah, Cary believes black lives matter.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 08:50 PM (KxZpr)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:50 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Piratepatch from the flood zone at June 07, 2020 08:51 PM (M9BrN)
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Jesse in DC, my former lead RO at the range where I volunteer once game me some 54R "yellow tip", also called heavy ball, ammo, Soviet surplus. Basically a 182g projectile vs. 147/9g projectile. Sometimes used as sniper ammo, though the Soviets had "sniperskiye" - not kidding, that's the Russian borrow word used for it - ammo that was something else.
Anyway, click/pause/bang.
Uh, nah bro.
Even though the Mosin-Nagant action may be one of the most over-built actions of all time, and over-pressure etc. not a practical concern, nah. No need to use imperfect ammo, whatever the issue, with so much good ammo to hand.
Anyway, click/pause/bang.
Uh, nah bro.
Even though the Mosin-Nagant action may be one of the most over-built actions of all time, and over-pressure etc. not a practical concern, nah. No need to use imperfect ammo, whatever the issue, with so much good ammo to hand.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 08:51 PM (El6T/)
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Please give doggie a better name than WDv2! That sounds like a German vengance weapon.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:51 PM (bgJ0E)
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NZFrank with a M2
Given that that particular dog pooped and threw up in Weasel's new car on the way home, that may be appropriate naming.
Given that that particular dog pooped and threw up in Weasel's new car on the way home, that may be appropriate naming.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 08:52 PM (u82oZ)
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They can borrow 2 from Arnold's dad. According to that douche's twitter he grew up on a farm in Iowa so that means he's a regular Sgt. York
Posted by: TheQuietMan
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Hey, dammit! York is ours, here in Appalachia. I suppose you might claim Audie Murphy. Not sure the Texans will go for that, but you can have a go at it.
They can borrow 2 from Arnold's dad. According to that douche's twitter he grew up on a farm in Iowa so that means he's a regular Sgt. York
Posted by: TheQuietMan
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Hey, dammit! York is ours, here in Appalachia. I suppose you might claim Audie Murphy. Not sure the Texans will go for that, but you can have a go at it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with haircut at June 07, 2020 08:52 PM (WD9ZA)
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338 Please give doggie a better name than WDv2! That sounds like a German vengance weapon.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:51 PM (bgJ0E)
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No worries! WDv2 is his nic for the blog. His name is Little Joe, or Jose.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:51 PM (bgJ0E)
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No worries! WDv2 is his nic for the blog. His name is Little Joe, or Jose.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:53 PM (MVjcR)
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Weasel, have you received my emails about my AR build?
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 08:53 PM (Uf/DD)
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@293
I've seen postings on other sites that not only has the NYPD Police Commissioner resigned (or been fired), but that between 300 and 800 officers are retiring immediately. There's another report out there that Minneapolis is disbanding their entire police force.. No links/sources cited though. Until there's official confirmation it's unclear exactly what's happening. However, one thing is certain: events are moving very quickly.
I've seen postings on other sites that not only has the NYPD Police Commissioner resigned (or been fired), but that between 300 and 800 officers are retiring immediately. There's another report out there that Minneapolis is disbanding their entire police force.. No links/sources cited though. Until there's official confirmation it's unclear exactly what's happening. However, one thing is certain: events are moving very quickly.
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at June 07, 2020 08:53 PM (/nk+m)
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Is Little Joe left-pawed, Weasel?
Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (XhWtx)
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"305 302 I honestly think Trump is going to have to send the military into NYC
Posted by: Jmel at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (OeWgo)
nope, he will let it burn"
Based on comments from the Secretary of Defense, Mattis, Powell, fill in the grifter, the military has become too unreliable to use. Esper would have to be sacked even to deploy the National Guard successfully. Come to think of it, Rick Grenell would make an awesome acting Defense Secretary.
Posted by: Jmel at June 07, 2020 08:38 PM (OeWgo)
nope, he will let it burn"
Based on comments from the Secretary of Defense, Mattis, Powell, fill in the grifter, the military has become too unreliable to use. Esper would have to be sacked even to deploy the National Guard successfully. Come to think of it, Rick Grenell would make an awesome acting Defense Secretary.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (puu6v)
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Nearly 10 million views and counting; that's how many people a Houston teen has reached with a TikTok video that lays out the unwritten rules his mother taught him to think about every time he leaves the house. It's a glimpse into what many African American parents teach their kids.
"Don't be out too late. Don't touch anything you're not buying. Always have a receipt when you leave the store," says 18-year-old Cameron Welch in his viral video. "Never make it look like there's an altercation between you and someone else."
"A lot of the comments were, 'I'm Caucasian and it's opening my eyes to how you all live every day.' It's really powerful. It's an eye-opener and I'm glad to see that I'm making a difference,"
Nearly 10 million views and counting; that's how many people a Houston teen has reached with a TikTok video that lays out the unwritten rules his mother taught him to think about every time he leaves the house. It's a glimpse into what many African American parents teach their kids.
"Don't be out too late. Don't touch anything you're not buying. Always have a receipt when you leave the store," says 18-year-old Cameron Welch in his viral video. "Never make it look like there's an altercation between you and someone else."
"A lot of the comments were, 'I'm Caucasian and it's opening my eyes to how you all live every day.' It's really powerful. It's an eye-opener and I'm glad to see that I'm making a difference,"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (aKsyK)
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339 NZFrank with a M2
Given that that particular dog pooped and threw up in Weasel's new car on the way home, that may be appropriate naming.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 08:52 PM (u82oZ)
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He pooped and threw up twice! Fortunately, WW's lap kept it off the leather, but it messed up the new car smell!
Given that that particular dog pooped and threw up in Weasel's new car on the way home, that may be appropriate naming.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 08:52 PM (u82oZ)
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He pooped and threw up twice! Fortunately, WW's lap kept it off the leather, but it messed up the new car smell!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (MVjcR)
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@johncardillo for all your probably well-sourced NYPD rumor intelligence and rumor control, FYI
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (El6T/)
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So are they going to change Elmer Fudd's hunting costume too?
I can just hear Bugs Bunny's dialog: "Comrade Fudd, you will please to be kneeling to comrade Daffy. Black Ducks Matter."
I can just hear Bugs Bunny's dialog: "Comrade Fudd, you will please to be kneeling to comrade Daffy. Black Ducks Matter."
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 08:55 PM (0l/6b)
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342 Weasel, have you received my emails about my AR build?
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 08:53 PM (Uf/DD)
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I did, thanks. Replied this afternoon. Sorry for the slow response!
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 08:53 PM (Uf/DD)
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I did, thanks. Replied this afternoon. Sorry for the slow response!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:56 PM (MVjcR)
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InCali,
In regards to your questions about gun storage and small children there are several solutions.
The safest place for your pistol is on your person in a holster when you have small children in the house, or teenagers for that matter. Otherwise, you need to keep it in an accessable safe. There are numerous safe companies that make thumbprint release safe, and their is a new one made for access in your bed/mattress.
Do not, and I mean, do not assume small children or any kids will be safe to leave a pistol in drawer or unlocked cabinet. Every year hundreds of kids are killed by playing with a gun they found or one they knew about and are showing their friends. Adam Lantz killed his mother with her shotgun and then headed to Sandy Hook.
Recommend for gun safety, holsters, safes etc. you check out the following. Carrie Lightfoot owns and runs The Well Armed Woman and her blog posts and recommendations for holsters, storage, etc. are both for men and women. Excellent resource for both new and experienced shooters.
https://thewellarmedwoman.com/where-do-i-start/
In regards to your questions about gun storage and small children there are several solutions.
The safest place for your pistol is on your person in a holster when you have small children in the house, or teenagers for that matter. Otherwise, you need to keep it in an accessable safe. There are numerous safe companies that make thumbprint release safe, and their is a new one made for access in your bed/mattress.
Do not, and I mean, do not assume small children or any kids will be safe to leave a pistol in drawer or unlocked cabinet. Every year hundreds of kids are killed by playing with a gun they found or one they knew about and are showing their friends. Adam Lantz killed his mother with her shotgun and then headed to Sandy Hook.
Recommend for gun safety, holsters, safes etc. you check out the following. Carrie Lightfoot owns and runs The Well Armed Woman and her blog posts and recommendations for holsters, storage, etc. are both for men and women. Excellent resource for both new and experienced shooters.
https://thewellarmedwoman.com/where-do-i-start/
Posted by: Jen the original at June 07, 2020 08:56 PM (h2mCn)
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Ahh the famous Carcano M41. Never fired and only dropped once, I presume.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:47 PM (bgJ0E)
Hahaha...yup. So clunky, so bare bones, such an ugly duckling that I favor it for some reason.
I actually shot the bayonet off it once when it came loose, slid forward and caught a round unawares.
Split the bayonet retaining ring in half.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:47 PM (bgJ0E)
Hahaha...yup. So clunky, so bare bones, such an ugly duckling that I favor it for some reason.
I actually shot the bayonet off it once when it came loose, slid forward and caught a round unawares.
Split the bayonet retaining ring in half.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 07, 2020 08:56 PM (Z+IKu)
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One of my hesitations is having young children at home. I want to ask
advice about secure storage yet having things at the ready quickly. I
know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to assume it is not
impossible
Posted by: InCali at June 07,
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contact me off line if you are still here.
RL email in nick
advice about secure storage yet having things at the ready quickly. I
know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to assume it is not
impossible
Posted by: InCali at June 07,
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contact me off line if you are still here.
RL email in nick
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 08:56 PM (5RpHt)
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De Commie is NYC is defunding the police somewhat, good for him. NYC doesn't need the police anyway. Lots of guns from ex-cops might be on the market. Get your marshmallows ready.
Posted by: Colin at June 07, 2020 08:56 PM (jKqap)
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Hey, it is OK to post porn here?
https://tinyurl.com/y7cys6dt
Posted by: TSgt Ciz
Old and busted: 1953, Hell's Angels destroy a town in The Wild One
Posted by: TSgt Ciz
New and shiny: Hell's Angels save a town
https://tinyurl.com/y7cys6dt
Posted by: TSgt Ciz
Old and busted: 1953, Hell's Angels destroy a town in The Wild One
Posted by: TSgt Ciz
New and shiny: Hell's Angels save a town
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 07, 2020 08:56 PM (+y/Ru)
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Bertram, I confess I'm confused by that TikTok thing, at least the quoted part. Normal, age-old parental guidelines for safe and decent behavior is seen by some as new, or distinctive, or in any way limited to any ethnic persuasion? Huh?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 08:56 PM (El6T/)
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Given that that particular dog pooped and threw up in Weasel's new car on the way home, that may be appropriate naming.
Posted by: NaCly
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Heh. The family next door just got a puppy, named 'Rosie'. I was walking our dog and their daughter (maybe 9 years old) came over to see her (the dog). I asked how Rosie was doing, and she replied, 'poopy'.
Posted by: NaCly
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Heh. The family next door just got a puppy, named 'Rosie'. I was walking our dog and their daughter (maybe 9 years old) came over to see her (the dog). I asked how Rosie was doing, and she replied, 'poopy'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, with haircut at June 07, 2020 08:56 PM (WD9ZA)
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344 Is Little Joe left-pawed, Weasel?
Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (XhWtx)
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Ambi, as far as I can tell!
Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (XhWtx)
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Ambi, as far as I can tell!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:56 PM (MVjcR)
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that lays out the unwritten rules his mother taught him
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You know, I think I might have noticed something important.
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You know, I think I might have noticed something important.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 08:57 PM (KxZpr)
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ome 54R "yellow tip", also called heavy ball, ammo, Soviet surplus. Basically a 182g projectile vs. 147/9g projectile.
That was used as PM1910 Maxim "light" ammo as the original issue load was 207gn. The heavier projectile gives enough recoil impulse on the face of the barrel to cycle. As the Russians improved on the WWI issue guns, by WWII they found that they could use 182gn and still have the gun function, due mostly going away from cloth to metallic belts.
That was used as PM1910 Maxim "light" ammo as the original issue load was 207gn. The heavier projectile gives enough recoil impulse on the face of the barrel to cycle. As the Russians improved on the WWI issue guns, by WWII they found that they could use 182gn and still have the gun function, due mostly going away from cloth to metallic belts.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:57 PM (bgJ0E)
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OH NOES!!! Tom Arnold and Meathead are going to get us with their dad's hunting rifles
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 08:33 PM (P8pUU)
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I like the transparently racist assumption that black men with rifles are incapable of defending themselves unless some out of shape old white guys take charge.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 08:33 PM (P8pUU)
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I like the transparently racist assumption that black men with rifles are incapable of defending themselves unless some out of shape old white guys take charge.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 08:57 PM (cfSRQ)
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"Rick Grenell would make an awesome acting Defense Secretary.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (puu6v) "
This.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (puu6v) "
This.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 08:57 PM (0IMgo)
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Minneapolis Police Department, never fired, only dropped once
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 07, 2020 08:57 PM (+y/Ru)
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Congratulations on the new puppy. I've always been a 2 doggie guy with a fenced yard and doggie door. It makes for a happy home.
Posted by: ck at June 07, 2020 08:58 PM (Gf0Po)
365
https://thewellarmedwoman.com/where-do-i-start/
Posted by: Jen the original at June 07, 2020 08:56 PM (h2mCn)
My TWAW instructor is awesome, I love her! We have classes once a month, with range time afterwards.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 07, 2020 08:56 PM (h2mCn)
My TWAW instructor is awesome, I love her! We have classes once a month, with range time afterwards.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 07, 2020 08:58 PM (OzQGF)
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"Don't be out too late. Don't touch anything you're
not buying. Always have a receipt when you leave the store," says
18-year-old Cameron Welch in his viral video. "Never make it look like
there's an altercation between you and someone else."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (aKsyK)
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sad.
i'm as white as the background here at the HQ, and my parents taught me the same things...
not buying. Always have a receipt when you leave the store," says
18-year-old Cameron Welch in his viral video. "Never make it look like
there's an altercation between you and someone else."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (aKsyK)
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sad.
i'm as white as the background here at the HQ, and my parents taught me the same things...
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 08:59 PM (5RpHt)
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364 Congratulations on the new puppy. I've always been a 2 doggie guy with a fenced yard and doggie door. It makes for a happy home.
Posted by: ck at June 07, 2020 08:58 PM (Gf0Po)
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Thanks!
Posted by: ck at June 07, 2020 08:58 PM (Gf0Po)
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Thanks!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:59 PM (MVjcR)
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Come to think of it, Rick Grenell would make an awesome acting Defense Secretary.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (puu6v)
Wouldn't he just.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (puu6v)
Wouldn't he just.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 08:59 PM (nAiE/)
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Another web source mentioned here by several of us over the months for female, or really any, new gun owner or gun-curious person - corneredcat.com. Quick glance seems to indicate inactive for 2 years, but a wealth of good stuff there in archives.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 08:59 PM (El6T/)
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Based on comments from the Secretary of Defense,
Mattis, Powell, fill in the grifter, the military has become too
unreliable to use. Esper would have to be sacked even to deploy the
National Guard successfully. Come to think of it, Rick Grenell would
make an awesome acting Defense Secretary.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (puu6v)
I think Grenell tore into Mattis too
Mattis, Powell, fill in the grifter, the military has become too
unreliable to use. Esper would have to be sacked even to deploy the
National Guard successfully. Come to think of it, Rick Grenell would
make an awesome acting Defense Secretary.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (puu6v)
I think Grenell tore into Mattis too
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 07, 2020 08:59 PM (P8pUU)
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He pooped and threw up twice! Fortunately, WW's lap kept it off the leather, but it messed up the new car smell!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (MVjcR)
Glad to see you have correct proorities. Leather is expensive.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 08:54 PM (MVjcR)
Glad to see you have correct proorities. Leather is expensive.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 08:59 PM (bgJ0E)
372
One of my hesitations is having young children at home. I want to ask
advice about secure storage yet having things at the ready quickly. I
know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to assume it is not
impossible
--
Lifepod. I have one that I use when we go camping. Really great little storage safe, and it comes with a metal cable to secure it to solid objects if needed.
https://tinyurl.com/y8jqjz33
advice about secure storage yet having things at the ready quickly. I
know Cali makes it hard to get a gun, but I have to assume it is not
impossible
--
Lifepod. I have one that I use when we go camping. Really great little storage safe, and it comes with a metal cable to secure it to solid objects if needed.
https://tinyurl.com/y8jqjz33
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:00 PM (KxZpr)
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OK, gunnies, goodnight. We'll see what the next week brings us.
Good night, WD. Sorry I mislabeled your gender earlier. Hope it doesn't downgrade my social credit.
Yeeeah.
Good night, WD. Sorry I mislabeled your gender earlier. Hope it doesn't downgrade my social credit.
Yeeeah.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 09:01 PM (81P5W)
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I like the transparently racist assumption that
black men with rifles are incapable of defending themselves unless some
out of shape old white guys take charge.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 08:57 PM (cfSRQ)
Some out of shape old white guys who have never held a weapon and who think guns are icky.
Those two would be more likely to shoot themselves or other allies than they would be to be of actual use in a shoot war.
black men with rifles are incapable of defending themselves unless some
out of shape old white guys take charge.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 08:57 PM (cfSRQ)
Some out of shape old white guys who have never held a weapon and who think guns are icky.
Those two would be more likely to shoot themselves or other allies than they would be to be of actual use in a shoot war.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 09:01 PM (nAiE/)
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Thank God Tom Arnold is here! Between the KKK and the racist cops, I though we were goners!
I'll sure sleep better knowing him and that other old guy are standing guard for us poor black folks.
Golly I will!
I'll sure sleep better knowing him and that other old guy are standing guard for us poor black folks.
Golly I will!
Posted by: Said no armed black man, ever at June 07, 2020 09:01 PM (cfSRQ)
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just got this from the owner of AO Sword, down in El Cajon...
in response to my sending him the comment about sales to n00bs. he was apparently interviewed by a local reporter yesterday.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ya7cvtgn
in response to my sending him the comment about sales to n00bs. he was apparently interviewed by a local reporter yesterday.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/ya7cvtgn
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (5RpHt)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (u82oZ)
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373 OK, gunnies, goodnight. We'll see what the next week brings us.
Good night, WD. Sorry I mislabeled your gender earlier. Hope it doesn't downgrade my social credit.
Yeeeah.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 09:01 PM (81P5W)
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No worries, I keep calling him a her. Goodnight, bro!
Good night, WD. Sorry I mislabeled your gender earlier. Hope it doesn't downgrade my social credit.
Yeeeah.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 09:01 PM (81P5W)
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No worries, I keep calling him a her. Goodnight, bro!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (MVjcR)
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NZFrank, thanks, that's awesome info re Soviet Maxim ammo and change in same.
A few years back, at a great ammo source known to many here - SGAmmo.com - they had some "snaiperskiye" ammo for sale, in the spam cans, with Soviet markings. Of course it was pricier, I didn't really consider it because my "needs" are limited to having fun trying to hit man-sized profiles or less at 100-200 yds from cover, on the move, etc.
At the least possible cost.
A few years back, at a great ammo source known to many here - SGAmmo.com - they had some "snaiperskiye" ammo for sale, in the spam cans, with Soviet markings. Of course it was pricier, I didn't really consider it because my "needs" are limited to having fun trying to hit man-sized profiles or less at 100-200 yds from cover, on the move, etc.
At the least possible cost.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (El6T/)
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Cary, NC 8%
But yeah, Cary believes black lives matter.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 08:50 PM (KxZpr)
The big town 10 miles from me, Great Barrington MA
had a BLM rally yesterday
population 8K, maybe .001 black
surrounding towns like mine, black pop. is .000
But yeah, Cary believes black lives matter.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 08:50 PM (KxZpr)
The big town 10 miles from me, Great Barrington MA
had a BLM rally yesterday
population 8K, maybe .001 black
surrounding towns like mine, black pop. is .000
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (JgrP5)
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" ...
sad.
i'm as white as the background here at the HQ, and my parents taught me the same things...
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 08:59 PM (5RpHt) "
Yeah, same here.
Someone should point this out to them, this was how everyone was raised in a decent home at one time ... i.e. before communism's fellow travelers managed to corrupt everything they touched.
sad.
i'm as white as the background here at the HQ, and my parents taught me the same things...
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 08:59 PM (5RpHt) "
Yeah, same here.
Someone should point this out to them, this was how everyone was raised in a decent home at one time ... i.e. before communism's fellow travelers managed to corrupt everything they touched.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (0IMgo)
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Arnold can probably get a lot of guns from his sister's meth operation and dealers.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 09:03 PM (2DOZq)
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redbanzai the Southerner
You have just given them a positive role. May they be as effective as Hollywood is moral.
You have just given them a positive role. May they be as effective as Hollywood is moral.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 09:03 PM (u82oZ)
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I have a few sets of Dewalt bifocal safety glasses because I work in a machine shop and need readers to read the drawings.
I use 3.0 for the small type and they work very well.
Rather, one of the 4 pairs I've bought work very well, one pair is Eh.
The bifocal part is a stick on thing, so QC must have messed up on that one.
I wear them shooting and they're pretty good.
The bifocal isn't really good for shooting, the target is a blur.
I just need good light to see the sights well.
I use 3.0 for the small type and they work very well.
Rather, one of the 4 pairs I've bought work very well, one pair is Eh.
The bifocal part is a stick on thing, so QC must have messed up on that one.
I wear them shooting and they're pretty good.
The bifocal isn't really good for shooting, the target is a blur.
I just need good light to see the sights well.
Posted by: Veeshir at June 07, 2020 09:03 PM (C5s69)
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373 OK, gunnies, goodnight. We'll see what the next week brings us.
Good night, WD. Sorry I mislabeled your gender earlier. Hope it doesn't downgrade my social credit.
Yeeeah.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 09:01 PM (81P5W)
You're going to have to kneel.
Good night, WD. Sorry I mislabeled your gender earlier. Hope it doesn't downgrade my social credit.
Yeeeah.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 09:01 PM (81P5W)
You're going to have to kneel.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 09:04 PM (NWiLs)
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OT The senior editor of the NYT's opinion section has resigned over Tom Cotton's op ed describing the President's ability to use the Insurrection Act to stop rioting.
Apparently the Editor defended publishing the piece this week, and his staff went berserk, claiming it was a call to kill black employees, etc. Some called in sick, etc.
NYT's when announcing the resignation, said the op ed recommending sending in troops to stop "protesters" . Cotton has demanded an apology, since his piece said rioters, not protesters.
Apparently the Editor defended publishing the piece this week, and his staff went berserk, claiming it was a call to kill black employees, etc. Some called in sick, etc.
NYT's when announcing the resignation, said the op ed recommending sending in troops to stop "protesters" . Cotton has demanded an apology, since his piece said rioters, not protesters.
Posted by: Jen the original at June 07, 2020 09:04 PM (h2mCn)
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Some out of shape old white guys who have never held a weapon and who think guns are icky.
Those two would be more likely to shoot themselves or other allies than they would be to be of actual use in a shoot war.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 09:01 PM (nAiE/)
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In times of crisis, who wouldn't turn to a pair of overweight coke-heads wildly swinging a rusted Marlin around?
I know I'd feel safer - with them on the other side.
Those two would be more likely to shoot themselves or other allies than they would be to be of actual use in a shoot war.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 09:01 PM (nAiE/)
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In times of crisis, who wouldn't turn to a pair of overweight coke-heads wildly swinging a rusted Marlin around?
I know I'd feel safer - with them on the other side.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:04 PM (cfSRQ)
388
The Philadelphia Inquirer's top editor is resigning after an uproar over a headline lamenting damage to businesses amid turbulent protests denouncing police brutality against people of color, the paper announced Saturday.
The Inquirer had apologized for a "horribly wrong" decision to use the headline, "Buildings Matter, Too," on a column Tuesday about looting and vandalism on the margins of protests of George Floyd's death in Minneapolis at the hands of a white police officer.
The Philadelphia Inquirer's top editor is resigning after an uproar over a headline lamenting damage to businesses amid turbulent protests denouncing police brutality against people of color, the paper announced Saturday.
The Inquirer had apologized for a "horribly wrong" decision to use the headline, "Buildings Matter, Too," on a column Tuesday about looting and vandalism on the margins of protests of George Floyd's death in Minneapolis at the hands of a white police officer.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2020 09:04 PM (aKsyK)
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377 Weasel,
Hope your new puppy learns fast. I would never ever want to piss off WW.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (u82oZ)
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Ha! It was actually kind of funny. I asked if she smelled something and she replied no about the time she found the deposit. Hilarity (sort of) ensued.
Hope your new puppy learns fast. I would never ever want to piss off WW.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (u82oZ)
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Ha! It was actually kind of funny. I asked if she smelled something and she replied no about the time she found the deposit. Hilarity (sort of) ensued.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:04 PM (MVjcR)
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Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:14 PM (YWBlw)
I just put together my first AR-15 build, and I bought the kit and the lower from Palmetto State Armory. It was *slightly* less expensive than an already built AR, and I got to know my rifle much better than I did before. The kit I bought was for the "M4" version - that is the carbine version of the M-16 (but semi-auto only) I carried in Germany and Bosnia. The kit contains a completed upper and all of the lower parts. I bought their "Virginia-15" stripped lower.
Only complaint I have is that you will have to go searching _on your own_ for instructions on how to put it together. PewPewTactical.com does have a great instructional with good pictures.
Posted by: Numbuh Two, 2x4 Technology Operative at June 07, 2020 07:14 PM (YWBlw)
I just put together my first AR-15 build, and I bought the kit and the lower from Palmetto State Armory. It was *slightly* less expensive than an already built AR, and I got to know my rifle much better than I did before. The kit I bought was for the "M4" version - that is the carbine version of the M-16 (but semi-auto only) I carried in Germany and Bosnia. The kit contains a completed upper and all of the lower parts. I bought their "Virginia-15" stripped lower.
Only complaint I have is that you will have to go searching _on your own_ for instructions on how to put it together. PewPewTactical.com does have a great instructional with good pictures.
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:05 PM (Uf/DD)
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redc thanks, gonna watch that clip.
Indoor range I use has a store section of course, they've had slim pickings in the handgun department since a bit into the WuFlu thing.
Somewhere the last 2 days I saw a funny comment from some political observer - "One agenda item that just disappeared from most Democrats' public side: gun control".
Yeah, probably.
Indoor range I use has a store section of course, they've had slim pickings in the handgun department since a bit into the WuFlu thing.
Somewhere the last 2 days I saw a funny comment from some political observer - "One agenda item that just disappeared from most Democrats' public side: gun control".
Yeah, probably.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:05 PM (El6T/)
392
Gun safes are cheap and easy. Gun security is the same as trigger security - you can do both or you can pass on owning a gun.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (nFRLh)
393
Weasel,
I have managed to anger the local Soros group. I still worry about a CC permit, as this would get added to my drivers license.
And thinking of a suppressor, for shooting rattlesnakes in the yard, but again, do not like being on more govt. lists than I already am.
I have managed to anger the local Soros group. I still worry about a CC permit, as this would get added to my drivers license.
And thinking of a suppressor, for shooting rattlesnakes in the yard, but again, do not like being on more govt. lists than I already am.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (u82oZ)
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And before the end, thanks as always, Weasel !
looking forward to seeing WD 2 one of these days !
looking forward to seeing WD 2 one of these days !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (0IMgo)
395
Whats going on with Flynn and that asshole Sullivan?
It worries me that the "opinion" hasn't come out yet against Wilkenson..
I have asked this for the past 3 threads.
Anyone?
It worries me that the "opinion" hasn't come out yet against Wilkenson..
I have asked this for the past 3 threads.
Anyone?
Posted by: Getcha Pull at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (aR6C/)
396
Rick Grenell would make an awesome acting Defense Secretary.
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This is the best idea I've read all day
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This is the best idea I've read all day
Posted by: Methos at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (kOpft)
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380 Cary, NC 8%
But yeah, Cary believes black lives matter.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 08:50 PM (KxZpr)
The big town 10 miles from me, Great Barrington MA
had a BLM rally yesterday
population 8K, maybe .001 black
surrounding towns like mine, black pop. is .000
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (JgrP5)
Isn't having Soros-money great?
/s
Same problem here in 20k Monroe WA. Overwhelmingly white and hispanic. We had about 200 protestors, mostly Karens.
But yeah, Cary believes black lives matter.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 08:50 PM (KxZpr)
The big town 10 miles from me, Great Barrington MA
had a BLM rally yesterday
population 8K, maybe .001 black
surrounding towns like mine, black pop. is .000
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (JgrP5)
Isn't having Soros-money great?
/s
Same problem here in 20k Monroe WA. Overwhelmingly white and hispanic. We had about 200 protestors, mostly Karens.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (d1uFV)
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379 NZFrank, thanks, that's awesome info re Soviet Maxim ammo and change in same.
A few years back, at a great ammo source known to many here - SGAmmo.com - they had some "snaiperskiye" ammo for sale, in the spam cans, with Soviet markings. Of course it was pricier, I didn't really consider it because my "needs" are limited to having fun trying to hit man-sized profiles or less at 100-200 yds from cover, on the move, etc.
At the least possible cost.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (El6T/)
My pleasure. I generally find out well established fact "after" my trial and error attempts.
A few years back, at a great ammo source known to many here - SGAmmo.com - they had some "snaiperskiye" ammo for sale, in the spam cans, with Soviet markings. Of course it was pricier, I didn't really consider it because my "needs" are limited to having fun trying to hit man-sized profiles or less at 100-200 yds from cover, on the move, etc.
At the least possible cost.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:02 PM (El6T/)
My pleasure. I generally find out well established fact "after" my trial and error attempts.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (bgJ0E)
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Whats going on with Flynn and that asshole Sullivan?
It worries me that the "opinion" hasn't come out yet against Wilkenson..
I have asked this for the past 3 threads.
Anyone?
Posted by: Getcha Pull at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (aR6C/)
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Isn't the hearing on June 10?
It worries me that the "opinion" hasn't come out yet against Wilkenson..
I have asked this for the past 3 threads.
Anyone?
Posted by: Getcha Pull at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (aR6C/)
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Isn't the hearing on June 10?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (cfSRQ)
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Posted by: Veeshir at June 07, 2020 09:03 PM (C5s69)
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Howdy and welcome, Veeshir! I've also heard that Milwaukee brand safety glasses are good too.
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Howdy and welcome, Veeshir! I've also heard that Milwaukee brand safety glasses are good too.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (MVjcR)
401
Look at the bright side NYC no law means no law against you having a gun too.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 09:08 PM (0l/6b)
402
No thoughts on trigger pull weight?
Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2020 09:08 PM (TAe5w)
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Thank you again for a great education, and for featuring that beautiful rifle. Wow.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 09:09 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:09 PM (MVjcR)
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Howdy and welcome, Veeshir! I've also heard that Milwaukee brand safety glasses are good too.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (MVjcR)
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Not to be confused with Milwaukee's Best glasses.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (MVjcR)
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Not to be confused with Milwaukee's Best glasses.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:09 PM (cfSRQ)
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405 Howdy and welcome, Veeshir! I've also heard that Milwaukee brand safety glasses are good too.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (MVjcR)
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Not to be confused with Milwaukee's Best glasses.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:09 PM (cfSRQ)
Feast on the Beast!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (MVjcR)
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Not to be confused with Milwaukee's Best glasses.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:09 PM (cfSRQ)
Feast on the Beast!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 09:10 PM (NWiLs)
407
Some day when I finally get around to building my first Evil Black Rifle, the trigger will be an issue. My first inclination is to get the cheapest *good* trigger I can - meaning reasonably decent trigger, as compared to rock-bottom stock kind. The overall objective is a simple quality AR for short-range work at least cost, so initial idea is to put most $$ into trigger and barrel. Don't plan to have any glass on it at all, just irons.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:10 PM (El6T/)
408
Insom. No way am I kneeling.
Well, WD would be an exception. And Mrs. R when I'm begging.
Well, WD would be an exception. And Mrs. R when I'm begging.
Posted by: RI Red at June 07, 2020 09:10 PM (81P5W)
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Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (0IMgo)
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My pleasure, s_r_e! Hopefully soon!
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My pleasure, s_r_e! Hopefully soon!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:10 PM (MVjcR)
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407 Some day when I finally get around to building my first Evil Black Rifle, the trigger will be an issue. My first inclination is to get the cheapest *good* trigger I can - meaning reasonably decent trigger, as compared to rock-bottom stock kind. The overall objective is a simple quality AR for short-range work at least cost, so initial idea is to put most $$ into trigger and barrel. Don't plan to have any glass on it at all, just irons.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:10 PM (El6T/)
Why no optics?
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:10 PM (El6T/)
Why no optics?
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 09:10 PM (bgJ0E)
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:11 PM (Uf/DD)
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Weasel,
I did buy 6 more 20 round mags for my latest toy. If I can't have fire control radar, I'll just keep swapping mags until I get a hit. If needed.
I do have clear fields of fire at Festung NaCly.
I did buy 6 more 20 round mags for my latest toy. If I can't have fire control radar, I'll just keep swapping mags until I get a hit. If needed.
I do have clear fields of fire at Festung NaCly.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 09:11 PM (u82oZ)
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402 No thoughts on trigger pull weight?
Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2020 09:08 PM (TAe5w)
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I leave the triggers on my handguns alone, and only really worry about my match rifles consistency.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2020 09:08 PM (TAe5w)
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I leave the triggers on my handguns alone, and only really worry about my match rifles consistency.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:12 PM (MVjcR)
414
Beautiful restoration on the rifle. Quality work.
Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2020 09:12 PM (HtsKA)
415
Speaking of Geissele and triggers, their sister company ALG Defense makes really sweet milspec AR triggers for around $50-70 depending on features. Very smooth and crisp, but with the milspec 5-6 lb pull weight. Not really for long-range sooper precision or competition work, but fantastic for serious social use. Have 'em in my ARs and I love 'em.
Speaking of Geissele and triggers, their sister company ALG Defense makes really sweet milspec AR triggers for around $50-70 depending on features. Very smooth and crisp, but with the milspec 5-6 lb pull weight. Not really for long-range sooper precision or competition work, but fantastic for serious social use. Have 'em in my ARs and I love 'em.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 07, 2020 09:12 PM (EGyGV)
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413 402 No thoughts on trigger pull weight?
Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2020 09:08 PM (TAe5w)
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I leave the triggers on my handguns alone, and only really worry about my match rifles consistency.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:12 PM (MVjcR)
Except for Herr Glock , very much ja,ja.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 07, 2020 09:08 PM (TAe5w)
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I leave the triggers on my handguns alone, and only really worry about my match rifles consistency.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:12 PM (MVjcR)
Except for Herr Glock , very much ja,ja.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 09:13 PM (bgJ0E)
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A lot of wishcasting the polls away based on a very minor miss in 16 (final RCP showed Hillary by 3 and she won by 2)
All hail President Hillary Clinton.
All hail President Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 07, 2020 09:13 PM (yQpMk)
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I was taught "do what you think is right and if it's not, you'll know soon enough"
somehow with this guidance, I
never killed anyone
never stole anything
never raped anyone
never destroyed anyone's property
and so on and so on
and when I encountered a white person, a black person, a cop or anyone else for that matter
I treated them with respect
It's not that tough
somehow with this guidance, I
never killed anyone
never stole anything
never raped anyone
never destroyed anyone's property
and so on and so on
and when I encountered a white person, a black person, a cop or anyone else for that matter
I treated them with respect
It's not that tough
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 09:13 PM (JgrP5)
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I did buy 6 more 20 round mags for my latest toy. If I can't have fire control radar, I'll just keep swapping mags until I get a hit. If needed.
I do have clear fields of fire at Festung NaCly.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 09:11 PM (u82oZ)
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Good plan. What did you go with, brand-wise?
I did buy 6 more 20 round mags for my latest toy. If I can't have fire control radar, I'll just keep swapping mags until I get a hit. If needed.
I do have clear fields of fire at Festung NaCly.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 09:11 PM (u82oZ)
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Good plan. What did you go with, brand-wise?
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:13 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 09:14 PM (u82oZ)
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Veeshir and Weasel, I wear Dewalt at work and and using tools. They are great and always available at Lowes and Home Depot. 10 percent off for Vets.
Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2020 09:14 PM (XhWtx)
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This comment is for Ben Had (from the Food Thread) ...
[233] I bought a bottle of strawberry/poppyseed dressing, but I have no idea what to use it on. Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 05:28 PM
Greetings, BH ... You might like to try using it on a salad of mixed greens, chunks of rotisserie chicken, slivered almonds, diced red onion, and sliced fresh strawberries. I make a summer dinner salad like this using plain poppyseed dressing -- with either strawberries or mandarin oranges -- and it is quite refreshing!
[233] I bought a bottle of strawberry/poppyseed dressing, but I have no idea what to use it on. Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 05:28 PM
Greetings, BH ... You might like to try using it on a salad of mixed greens, chunks of rotisserie chicken, slivered almonds, diced red onion, and sliced fresh strawberries. I make a summer dinner salad like this using plain poppyseed dressing -- with either strawberries or mandarin oranges -- and it is quite refreshing!
Posted by: Kathy at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (Me4XW)
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Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 07, 2020 09:12 PM (EGyGV)
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Good to know. Appreciate the testimonial!
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Good to know. Appreciate the testimonial!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (MVjcR)
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I have now shot a Glock 17, 19 and a revolver with .38 special rounds. Love the Glock but that revolver....that is a thing of beauty.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (IYHxL)
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Not long ago on this blog, discussions were held about "their side" and "our side" and how each would fare in a "hot civil war."
Are we in a hot civil war? If not, why?
If so, who's winning?
Seems to me one side showed up, the other didn't.
Why?
Are we in a hot civil war? If not, why?
If so, who's winning?
Seems to me one side showed up, the other didn't.
Why?
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Civilly Disobedient at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (3H9h1)
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I was taught "do what you think is right and if it's not, you'll know soon enough"
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Yep. One of the most valuable things my dad taught me, and what I'm trying to get my kids to understand, is that if you have to wonder if something is wrong, it's probably wrong.
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Yep. One of the most valuable things my dad taught me, and what I'm trying to get my kids to understand, is that if you have to wonder if something is wrong, it's probably wrong.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (KxZpr)
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"418 I was taught "do what you think is right and if it's not, you'll know soon enough"
somehow with this guidance, I
never killed anyone
never stole anything
never raped anyone
never destroyed anyone's property
and so on and so on
and when I encountered a white person, a black person, a cop or anyone else for that matter
I treated them with respect
It's not that tough
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 09:13 PM (JgrP5) "
Weird, innit, how the last 50 years of "progress" has only made everything worse instead of better ?
somehow with this guidance, I
never killed anyone
never stole anything
never raped anyone
never destroyed anyone's property
and so on and so on
and when I encountered a white person, a black person, a cop or anyone else for that matter
I treated them with respect
It's not that tough
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 09:13 PM (JgrP5) "
Weird, innit, how the last 50 years of "progress" has only made everything worse instead of better ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 09:16 PM (0IMgo)
428
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 07, 2020 09:14 PM (u82oZ)
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My pleasure, thanks for stopping by!
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My pleasure, thanks for stopping by!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:16 PM (03xwg)
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410 407 Some day when I finally get around to building my first Evil Black Rifle, the trigger will be an issue. My first inclination is to get the cheapest *good* trigger I can - meaning reasonably decent trigger, as compared to rock-bottom stock kind. The overall objective is a simple quality AR for short-range work at least cost, so initial idea is to put most $$ into trigger and barrel. Don't plan to have any glass on it at all, just irons.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:10 PM (El6T/)
I like Rise Armament triggers a lot, cheap, reliable and down to 2.5 pounds , which is light for an AR.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:10 PM (El6T/)
I like Rise Armament triggers a lot, cheap, reliable and down to 2.5 pounds , which is light for an AR.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 09:16 PM (bgJ0E)
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I have now shot a Glock 17, 19 and a revolver with .38 special rounds.
Love the Glock but that revolver....that is a thing of beauty.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (IYHxL)
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What model?
I'm a big fan of revolvers. Last week was doing some self-defense drills on double action and the shots fell nicely. On single action...perfection.
I have now shot a Glock 17, 19 and a revolver with .38 special rounds.
Love the Glock but that revolver....that is a thing of beauty.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (IYHxL)
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What model?
I'm a big fan of revolvers. Last week was doing some self-defense drills on double action and the shots fell nicely. On single action...perfection.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:17 PM (cfSRQ)
431
Same problem here in 20k Monroe WA. Overwhelmingly white and hispanic. We had about 200 protestors, mostly Karens.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (d1uFV)
I hope you have the same problem my town of 1400 has
since 2015, zero crimes, nada
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (d1uFV)
I hope you have the same problem my town of 1400 has
since 2015, zero crimes, nada
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 09:17 PM (JgrP5)
432
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Civilly Disobedient at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (3H9h1)
It's not hot yet. They are having the war on their own turf.
It's not hot yet. They are having the war on their own turf.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 09:17 PM (2DOZq)
433
421 Veeshir and Weasel, I wear Dewalt at work and and using tools. They are great and always available at Lowes and Home Depot. 10 percent off for Vets.
Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2020 09:14 PM (XhWtx)
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Good to know, thanks pal!
Posted by: Eromero at June 07, 2020 09:14 PM (XhWtx)
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Good to know, thanks pal!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:17 PM (MVjcR)
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Are we in a hot civil war? If not, why?
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Because white Democrats are burning down black businesses in cities they've exclusively controlled for 50-150 years, same as they've always done.
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Because white Democrats are burning down black businesses in cities they've exclusively controlled for 50-150 years, same as they've always done.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:17 PM (KxZpr)
435
Must go and interfere with sheep. Thanks for the thread Mr Weasel.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (bgJ0E)
436
399 Whats going on with Flynn and that asshole Sullivan?
It worries me that the "opinion" hasn't come out yet against Wilkenson..
I have asked this for the past 3 threads.
Anyone?
Posted by: Getcha Pull at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (aR6C/)
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Isn't the hearing on June 10?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (cfSRQ)
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I think so. If I had to guess, the reason why the appeals court is having oral arguments is because of how profile this case is and how odd it is. They don't adjudicate on serious Mandamus petitions all that often. They wanna make sure they get it right I guess.
It worries me that the "opinion" hasn't come out yet against Wilkenson..
I have asked this for the past 3 threads.
Anyone?
Posted by: Getcha Pull at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (aR6C/)
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Isn't the hearing on June 10?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:07 PM (cfSRQ)
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I think so. If I had to guess, the reason why the appeals court is having oral arguments is because of how profile this case is and how odd it is. They don't adjudicate on serious Mandamus petitions all that often. They wanna make sure they get it right I guess.
Posted by: Jackal at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (o3+fQ)
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rhomboid, see ALG Defense, per my earlier comment. Sounds like exactly what you're looking for.
rhomboid, see ALG Defense, per my earlier comment. Sounds like exactly what you're looking for.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (EGyGV)
438
NZFrank, no optics mostly because, just for shorter range work ("work" meaning fun, there's zero chance I'll use this hardware for anything else), and so far eyes are fine. I own no optics of any kind. Don't hunt, and so far long-range or precision aren't part of the hobby for me.
I am able to hit plates at 200 yds with crap Soviet surplus ammo out of a Mosin with zero "accurizing" work on it using just the original irons, when I'm shooting well. That's the pinnacle of the hobby for me, in that department.
Big sport, lots of disciplines and sub-interests.
I am able to hit plates at 200 yds with crap Soviet surplus ammo out of a Mosin with zero "accurizing" work on it using just the original irons, when I'm shooting well. That's the pinnacle of the hobby for me, in that department.
Big sport, lots of disciplines and sub-interests.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (El6T/)
439
435 Must go and interfere with sheep.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (bgJ0E)
So that's what y'all are calling it?
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (bgJ0E)
So that's what y'all are calling it?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (NWiLs)
440
Assembling your first AR? You tube is your friend, watch 4 or 5 different AR assembling videos. Everyone does it a little differently. If you see a few variations you'll figure out what works best for you and the tools you have on hand. There's a $13 plastic tool on amazon for the front knock down pin, it will save you many launched springs and detents. Have fun, it's a blast, you'll know your gun inside out. My brother is coming out next week and we're building him his first.
Posted by: ck at June 07, 2020 09:19 PM (Gf0Po)
441
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:17 PM (cfSRQ)
I am a gun retard so I can't tell you the model but it was a double action. Sexy sexy sexy gun.
I am a gun retard so I can't tell you the model but it was a double action. Sexy sexy sexy gun.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:19 PM (IYHxL)
442
Rhomboid, no kidding. I had a couple of Number 1 MK3s that had some worn barrels, victims of corrosive ammo sometime in their 100 years. I figured the iraqi ammo would work in one of them. Well, not so much. As of now I only have one Enfield left, and will never shoot any corrosive ammo in it no matter what its provonance is. Some of the iraqi ammo is loaded on WW1 clips. I kept a few of those though.
Posted by: Jesse in DC at June 07, 2020 09:19 PM (ouR/N)
443
ITC, you beat me to it! I was just about to chime in and note in the limited shopping around I've done, ALG was in fact one brand of trigger that was on my list. AIM Surplus had them for decent prices last I looked (um, which might be a year ..... ).
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:20 PM (El6T/)
444
"425 Not long ago on this blog, discussions were held about "their side" and "our side" and how each would fare in a "hot civil war."
Are we in a hot civil war? If not, why?
If so, who's winning?
Seems to me one side showed up, the other didn't.
Why?
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Civilly Disobedient at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (3H9h1) "
My 0.02 ?
it's that "lawn order" thing ... our side mostly still views the law as something to be obeyed and respected, and at a very gut level.
before we can seriously start active resistance, we will need to get okay with transgressing those boundaries a bit.
not advocating it of course, just sayin' ...
Are we in a hot civil war? If not, why?
If so, who's winning?
Seems to me one side showed up, the other didn't.
Why?
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Civilly Disobedient at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (3H9h1) "
My 0.02 ?
it's that "lawn order" thing ... our side mostly still views the law as something to be obeyed and respected, and at a very gut level.
before we can seriously start active resistance, we will need to get okay with transgressing those boundaries a bit.
not advocating it of course, just sayin' ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 09:20 PM (0IMgo)
445
407 Rise Super Sport is a good build out trigger for an AR. Not a crazy light pull.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at June 07, 2020 09:20 PM (nFRLh)
446
435
Must go and interfere with sheep. Thanks for the thread Mr Weasel.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (bgJ0E)
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I didn't know you were Welsh.
Must go and interfere with sheep. Thanks for the thread Mr Weasel.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (bgJ0E)
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I didn't know you were Welsh.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:20 PM (cfSRQ)
447
Looks like I'm the odd man out. It didn't make me nervous at all.
Me either, in fact I am much friendlier and more outgoing when I'm carrying.
Looks like I'm the odd man out. It didn't make me nervous at all.
Me either, in fact I am much friendlier and more outgoing when I'm carrying.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 09:20 PM (0l/6b)
448
Must go and interfere with sheep.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (bgJ0E)
So that's what y'all are calling it?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (NWiLs)
That fruit was so low it became a potato. I wanted too though.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (bgJ0E)
So that's what y'all are calling it?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 07, 2020 09:18 PM (NWiLs)
That fruit was so low it became a potato. I wanted too though.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 09:20 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: rancherbob at June 07, 2020 09:20 PM (gtu9W)
450
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:17 PM (KxZpr)
*deep fucking sigh of despair*
*deep fucking sigh of despair*
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:20 PM (IYHxL)
451
Just like Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, etc.
Oh boy. Get ready, NY. Your party is just getting started.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 08:45 PM (KxZpr)
A prime opportunity to drop a tune ---
Get Ready, Cuz Here I Come :
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=IyAwY2Q96Ps
Oh boy. Get ready, NY. Your party is just getting started.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 08:45 PM (KxZpr)
A prime opportunity to drop a tune ---
Get Ready, Cuz Here I Come :
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=IyAwY2Q96Ps
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 09:21 PM (Z4rgH)
452
Weasel. Thanks for the thread and knowledge bro.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:21 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 07, 2020 09:21 PM (5RpHt)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:21 PM (MVjcR)
455
I am a gun retard so I can't tell you the model but it was a double action. Sexy sexy sexy gun.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:19 PM (IYHxL)
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Barrel length?
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:19 PM (IYHxL)
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Barrel length?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:21 PM (cfSRQ)
456
Sheep lives matter.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 07, 2020 09:22 PM (aKsyK)
457
Was this more Dana lesseN brilliance?
Posted by: clutch at June 07, 2020 08:28 PM (9UmRs)
Nope, it's from the ATF.
https://tinyurl.com/yc9fs3ch
Posted by: clutch at June 07, 2020 08:28 PM (9UmRs)
Nope, it's from the ATF.
https://tinyurl.com/yc9fs3ch
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 09:22 PM (t+qrx)
458
BTW, someone is shooting cops in California (three I think). Cops suspect ex military. I don't know much -- I only saw a TV news chyron about it.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 07, 2020 09:22 PM (TQ/zJ)
459
Thanks for the gun thread this week, Weasel. Finally got to the range this week and had a great practice session.
Back to the top to read the comments.
Back to the top to read the comments.
Posted by: Pod Hamp at June 07, 2020 09:22 PM (RBFmA)
460
Just came back from a walk through my diverse neighborhood. There's no tension or discord here - one neighbor whom I've never met greeted me with a big smile, she is AA. There was a party up the street, it was a racially mixed crowd grooving to 70s and 80s funk and soul. We all get along and we must not allow the marxist/globalist puppetmasters divide us.
Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2020 09:22 PM (HtsKA)
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Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:21 PM (cfSRQ)
Dont know. My BIL rented it and I got to shoot it. Sorry man.
Dont know. My BIL rented it and I got to shoot it. Sorry man.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:23 PM (IYHxL)
462
Assembling your first AR? You tube is your friend, watch 4 or 5 different AR assembling videos. Everyone does it a little differently. If you see a few variations you'll figure out what works best for you and the tools you have on hand. There's a $13 plastic tool on amazon for the front knock down pin, it will save you many launched springs and detents. Have fun, it's a blast, you'll know your gun inside out. My brother is coming out next week and we're building him his first.
Posted by: ck at June 07, 2020 09:19 PM (Gf0Po)
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Brownell's has a great video series that I've used too.
Posted by: ck at June 07, 2020 09:19 PM (Gf0Po)
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Brownell's has a great video series that I've used too.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:23 PM (MVjcR)
463
NZFrank's gone to do something with sheep (silence! what's that snickering in the back??), but thanks to him, another name added to the AR build list: Rise triggers.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:23 PM (El6T/)
464
Assembling your first AR?
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PSA
Go ahead and get the Wheeler 710906 for the bolt catch before you start, because you're going to want it and have to wait once you get going. $13.25 on Amazon.
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PSA
Go ahead and get the Wheeler 710906 for the bolt catch before you start, because you're going to want it and have to wait once you get going. $13.25 on Amazon.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:23 PM (KxZpr)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at June 07, 2020 09:23 PM (2DOZq)
466
Are we in a hot civil war? If not, why?
If so, who's winning?
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Civilly Disobedient at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (3H9h1)
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We are.
The Blue cities are collapsing into anarchy and lawlessness, meanwhile the red ones are experiencing peace and prosperity.
The Dems are going to lose Civil War 2.0 to themselves.
If so, who's winning?
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Civilly Disobedient at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (3H9h1)
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We are.
The Blue cities are collapsing into anarchy and lawlessness, meanwhile the red ones are experiencing peace and prosperity.
The Dems are going to lose Civil War 2.0 to themselves.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:24 PM (cfSRQ)
467
"460 Just came back from a walk through my diverse neighborhood. There's no tension or discord here - one neighbor whom I've never met greeted me with a big smile, she is AA. There was a party up the street, it was a racially mixed crowd grooving to 70s and 80s funk and soul. We all get along and we must not allow the marxist/globalist puppetmasters divide us.
Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2020 09:22 PM (HtsKA) "
This !
Posted by: kallisto at June 07, 2020 09:22 PM (HtsKA) "
This !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 09:24 PM (0IMgo)
468
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:21 PM (IYHxL)
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Well you are most very welcome! Thanks for being here!
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Well you are most very welcome! Thanks for being here!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:24 PM (MVjcR)
469
Seems to me one side showed up, the other didn't.
No, we have showed up, in Indiana, Michigan, in the little town outside of Seattle, we just haven't started shooting ... yet.
Seems to me one side showed up, the other didn't.
No, we have showed up, in Indiana, Michigan, in the little town outside of Seattle, we just haven't started shooting ... yet.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 09:24 PM (0l/6b)
470
I don't want Federal Troops in New York anymore than I want them in Syria. Both places mean about the same to me. Both places need to sort themselves out - or not. They're the ones who gotta live with what comes next, not me.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:24 PM (V2Yro)
471
hang dai thathalfrican.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:24 PM (KxZpr)
472
thathalfrican, revolvers are great - and of course as always everything depends on "what will it be for?" and "what works for *you*?". But definitely consider revolvers if you're looking for basic self-defense/home defense purposes.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:25 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:26 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 09:26 PM (JgrP5)
475
Seems to me one side showed up, the other didn't.
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Tons of attempts in smaller and rural areas around the country, with rioters bused in. Both sides definitely showed up. The dumb ones smartened up really quickly once they realized that their BS wasn't going to be tolerated.
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Tons of attempts in smaller and rural areas around the country, with rioters bused in. Both sides definitely showed up. The dumb ones smartened up really quickly once they realized that their BS wasn't going to be tolerated.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:26 PM (KxZpr)
476
or maybe 444 was just my pessimism coming to the front.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at June 07, 2020 09:26 PM (0IMgo)
Posted by: davidt at June 07, 2020 09:27 PM (l3+k2)
478
Dont know. My BIL rented it and I got to shoot it. Sorry man.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:23 PM (IYHxL)
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No worries, always interesting in helping more people discover the sublime joy of wheel guns.
Speaking of which, the secondary market for them has been soft of late, because everyone wants a Glock.
When I helped a guy get his COVID gun, the area where the revolvers were kept was very well stocked and he got a decent price. Glocks were out of stock.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:23 PM (IYHxL)
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No worries, always interesting in helping more people discover the sublime joy of wheel guns.
Speaking of which, the secondary market for them has been soft of late, because everyone wants a Glock.
When I helped a guy get his COVID gun, the area where the revolvers were kept was very well stocked and he got a decent price. Glocks were out of stock.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:27 PM (cfSRQ)
479
The Blue cities are collapsing into anarchy and lawlessness, meanwhile the red ones are experiencing peace and prosperity.
The Dems are going to lose Civil War 2.0 to themselves.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:24 PM (cfSRQ)
I've been thinking along those lines. They missed the day in War College when the lesson was "You burn down your ENEMIES cities and try to protect your own - Not the other way around!"
The Dems are going to lose Civil War 2.0 to themselves.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:24 PM (cfSRQ)
I've been thinking along those lines. They missed the day in War College when the lesson was "You burn down your ENEMIES cities and try to protect your own - Not the other way around!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:27 PM (V2Yro)
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Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:24 PM (KxZpr)
Brother. Appreciate you. Seriously. You ever make it to my state? First round on me fam.
Brother. Appreciate you. Seriously. You ever make it to my state? First round on me fam.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:28 PM (IYHxL)
481
As always, a decent chance I'm missing something/a lot, but my impression was that this party is winding down, fast - I mean the "troubles" - almost everywhere. Even the "protests". Gas, bag, some disassembly required.
Not talking about the various idiotic things "government" in select locations will do. But I don't sense or know of any general festivities brewing.
Not talking about the various idiotic things "government" in select locations will do. But I don't sense or know of any general festivities brewing.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:28 PM (El6T/)
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'Seems to me one side showed up, the other didn't'
One side is watching and waiting. I'm not about to go into a city with riots going on. They'll have to come to me.
One side is watching and waiting. I'm not about to go into a city with riots going on. They'll have to come to me.
Posted by: freaked at June 07, 2020 09:29 PM (9UH9v)
483
Holly's rifle makes me just want to pick it up and hold it.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (MxIn6)
And squeeze it?
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (MxIn6)
And squeeze it?
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:29 PM (Uf/DD)
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:29 PM (MVjcR)
485
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:25 PM (El6T/)
For me? Revolver is my fun gun and Glock is my home defense. Just my comfort level.
For me? Revolver is my fun gun and Glock is my home defense. Just my comfort level.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:29 PM (IYHxL)
486
If things are cooling down, the trial will warm things up again.
Posted by: davidt at June 07, 2020 09:29 PM (l3+k2)
487
The Dems are going to lose Civil War 2.0 to themselves.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:24 PM (cfSRQ)
"the idea is to get the other guy to die for his country"
Patton
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:24 PM (cfSRQ)
"the idea is to get the other guy to die for his country"
Patton
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 09:30 PM (JgrP5)
488
And before it gets late and the ONT kicks us to the curb, thank you all for being here every week. You all are the best. No kidding!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:30 PM (MVjcR)
489
If things are cooling down, the trial will warm things up again.
I would be shocked if the trials even begin in less than a year.
I would be shocked if the trials even begin in less than a year.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 07, 2020 09:31 PM (yQpMk)
490
thanks, Weasel
thanks, Weasel
Posted by: AltonJackson at June 07, 2020 09:31 PM (NcTjl)
491
Tons of attempts in smaller and rural areas around the country, with rioters bused in. Both sides definitely showed up. The dumb ones smartened up really quickly once they realized that their BS wasn't going to be tolerated.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:26 PM (KxZpr)
I was noting that in a thread this morning, as to why this outbreak was a Big City disease that wasn't going to transfer over to smaller cities very easily at all. Anyone can mix in a big city, it's hard to spot outside agitators. Contrast to where I live, like many smaller cities, where outsiders stand out like a sore thumb to everybody local, black, white, and hispanic. And nobody wants a bunch of outsiders coming in starting trouble where they live.
That hipanic guy with the chainsaw in McAllen was hilarious - he didn't care about their politics, or left, or right, or anything. All he kept yelling was "GET THE FUK OUTTA HERE!!!" That's gonna be the small town attitude just about anywhere you go.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:26 PM (KxZpr)
I was noting that in a thread this morning, as to why this outbreak was a Big City disease that wasn't going to transfer over to smaller cities very easily at all. Anyone can mix in a big city, it's hard to spot outside agitators. Contrast to where I live, like many smaller cities, where outsiders stand out like a sore thumb to everybody local, black, white, and hispanic. And nobody wants a bunch of outsiders coming in starting trouble where they live.
That hipanic guy with the chainsaw in McAllen was hilarious - he didn't care about their politics, or left, or right, or anything. All he kept yelling was "GET THE FUK OUTTA HERE!!!" That's gonna be the small town attitude just about anywhere you go.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:32 PM (V2Yro)
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I've been thinking along those lines. They missed the day in War College when the lesson was "You burn down your ENEMIES cities and try to protect your own - Not the other way around!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:27 PM (V2Yro)
I've seen a lot of stuff on Twitter (and an editorial in the LA Times) about how "we're coming to your neighborhood", but I haven't seen much evidence it's actually true. I expect things won't go well if they actually try to follow through on that threat.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:27 PM (V2Yro)
I've seen a lot of stuff on Twitter (and an editorial in the LA Times) about how "we're coming to your neighborhood", but I haven't seen much evidence it's actually true. I expect things won't go well if they actually try to follow through on that threat.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 07, 2020 09:32 PM (wGeit)
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2020 09:32 PM (siRtV)
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I've been thinking along those lines. They missed
the day in War College when the lesson was "You burn down your ENEMIES
cities and try to protect your own - Not the other way around!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:27 PM (V2Yro)
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Yeah, they're also moving to disband their only organized security apparatus.
So they've set fire to their cities and are now ensuring that their security forces are demoralized and deserting in droves.
Yep, they got us right where they want us.
the day in War College when the lesson was "You burn down your ENEMIES
cities and try to protect your own - Not the other way around!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:27 PM (V2Yro)
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Yeah, they're also moving to disband their only organized security apparatus.
So they've set fire to their cities and are now ensuring that their security forces are demoralized and deserting in droves.
Yep, they got us right where they want us.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:32 PM (cfSRQ)
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Whats going on with Flynn and that asshole Sullivan?
It worries me that the "opinion" hasn't come out yet against Wilkenson..
I have asked this for the past 3 threads.
Anyone?
Posted by: Getcha Pull at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (aR6C/)
The Appeals Court set oral arguments for the 12th I think. I also think they ordered that Sullivan attend.
Whats going on with Flynn and that asshole Sullivan?
It worries me that the "opinion" hasn't come out yet against Wilkenson..
I have asked this for the past 3 threads.
Anyone?
Posted by: Getcha Pull at June 07, 2020 09:06 PM (aR6C/)
The Appeals Court set oral arguments for the 12th I think. I also think they ordered that Sullivan attend.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 09:32 PM (nAiE/)
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Thank you for the thread,Weasel!
I can always couny on yall to respond productively to my rookie questions.
Smooches to weaseldog!
And you too!
I can always couny on yall to respond productively to my rookie questions.
Smooches to weaseldog!
And you too!
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 09:33 PM (U2p+3)
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Posted by: AltonJackson at June 07, 2020 09:31 PM (NcTjl)
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Happy to do it. Thank you for reading and commenting!
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Happy to do it. Thank you for reading and commenting!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:33 PM (MVjcR)
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AH Lloyd reminded me, thathalfrican, and other Gun Morons - something I've preached here forever - don't overlook the used/2nd-hand market for gunz.
I think it might rival the new/barely used car market for value improvement. As in, drive the new car off the lot, it instantly loses X% of value, yet is still basically the same.
I only own 2 guns that I bought new, of all the (redacted) that I own. Of course the rifles, being mostly military surplus, one approaching 100 years old (one of the Mosin-Nagants), are not new. But even my Mossberg 500 and the M1 Carbine reproduction are 2nd hand (both tremendous values, esp. the carbine) - saved lots of money.
Anyway, a lot depends on where you live, because of the market size and depth. But gun shoppers, carefully consider the used market, if value and cost are issues.
I think it might rival the new/barely used car market for value improvement. As in, drive the new car off the lot, it instantly loses X% of value, yet is still basically the same.
I only own 2 guns that I bought new, of all the (redacted) that I own. Of course the rifles, being mostly military surplus, one approaching 100 years old (one of the Mosin-Nagants), are not new. But even my Mossberg 500 and the M1 Carbine reproduction are 2nd hand (both tremendous values, esp. the carbine) - saved lots of money.
Anyway, a lot depends on where you live, because of the market size and depth. But gun shoppers, carefully consider the used market, if value and cost are issues.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:33 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2020 09:33 PM (siRtV)
500
500
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 07, 2020 09:34 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:34 PM (Uf/DD)
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By the way, Mattis has utterly destroyed his reputation.
He's now on record as saying the US military should remain in Afghanistan forever, with an endless stream of bodybags, but preserving public order at home is right out.
With all due respect, sir, eat a bag of dicks.
He's now on record as saying the US military should remain in Afghanistan forever, with an endless stream of bodybags, but preserving public order at home is right out.
With all due respect, sir, eat a bag of dicks.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:34 PM (cfSRQ)
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That hipanic guy with the chainsaw in McAllen was hilarious - he didn't care about their politics, or left, or right, or anything. All he kept yelling was "GET THE FUK OUTTA HERE!!!" That's gonna be the small town attitude just about anywhere you go.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:32 PM (V2Yro)
I saw that!
Felt it was fake.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:32 PM (V2Yro)
I saw that!
Felt it was fake.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (siRtV)
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vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
Doesn't that mean "vigilantes"? Or is it "militia"?
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
Doesn't that mean "vigilantes"? Or is it "militia"?
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (Uf/DD)
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Not talking about the various idiotic things "government" in select locations will do. But I don't sense or know of any general festivities brewing.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:28 PM (El6T/)
In 1968, what fueled the riots and kept them going all summer was the Vietnam War, and the deaths that kept piling up and up and up, not to mention the threat of the draft to a whole bunch of 18 and 19 years old who didn't wanna go.
There's no fuel for the fire anywhere close to that this time around.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:28 PM (El6T/)
In 1968, what fueled the riots and kept them going all summer was the Vietnam War, and the deaths that kept piling up and up and up, not to mention the threat of the draft to a whole bunch of 18 and 19 years old who didn't wanna go.
There's no fuel for the fire anywhere close to that this time around.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (V2Yro)
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Funny thing, a gallon ziploc bag is a really useful gunsmithing tool. Any time you're working with a small spring under pressure, do it with the piece inside the bag. When, not if, you launch the spring... it'll keep you from spending all afternoon rooting through the carpet before giving up and ordering another from Brownells, waiting a week and launching that one, ordering a third from Brownells, and installing that one successfully, then finding the original spring 6 months later when you're walking around the living room barefoot and having it stab you in the web of your toe.
Funny thing, a gallon ziploc bag is a really useful gunsmithing tool. Any time you're working with a small spring under pressure, do it with the piece inside the bag. When, not if, you launch the spring... it'll keep you from spending all afternoon rooting through the carpet before giving up and ordering another from Brownells, waiting a week and launching that one, ordering a third from Brownells, and installing that one successfully, then finding the original spring 6 months later when you're walking around the living room barefoot and having it stab you in the web of your toe.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (EGyGV)
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thathalfrican - great! Fun is a legit part of this exercise (it's almost all of it, for me).
If you can find any revolver-friendly matches (ICORE, they're called), you'll really enjoy a revolver. Or just a decent steels match - great fun.
If you can find any revolver-friendly matches (ICORE, they're called), you'll really enjoy a revolver. Or just a decent steels match - great fun.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:36 PM (El6T/)
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Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:34 PM (cfSRQ)
Then his faggoty old ass should go lead the charge st a remote violent FOB. Dickhead.
Then his faggoty old ass should go lead the charge st a remote violent FOB. Dickhead.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at June 07, 2020 09:36 PM (IYHxL)
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Doesn't that mean "vigilantes"? Or is it "militia"?
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (Uf/DD)
Old and busted: Police
New Hotness: Thought Police
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (Uf/DD)
Old and busted: Police
New Hotness: Thought Police
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2020 09:36 PM (siRtV)
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Posted by: nurse ratched at June 07, 2020 09:33 PM (U2p+3)
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Thanks nurse! Always a pleasure to have you here!
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Thanks nurse! Always a pleasure to have you here!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:37 PM (MVjcR)
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I've seen a lot of stuff on Twitter (and an editorial in the LA Times) about how "we're coming to your neighborhood", but I haven't seen much evidence it's actually true. I expect things won't go well if they actually try to follow through on that threat.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 07, 2020 09:32 PM (wGeit)
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The one I keep thinking of is in Huntsville, AL. March all you want, but don't be out here after 8pm.
(8pm passes)
FWOMP! HISS! goes the tear gas.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 07, 2020 09:32 PM (wGeit)
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The one I keep thinking of is in Huntsville, AL. March all you want, but don't be out here after 8pm.
(8pm passes)
FWOMP! HISS! goes the tear gas.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:37 PM (KxZpr)
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Anyway, a lot depends on where you live, because of
the market size and depth. But gun shoppers, carefully consider the
used market, if value and cost are issues.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:33 PM (El6T/)
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An excellent observation.
I will add that revolvers are well-suited to the used market because they are so easy to inspect. No fussing with a bore light, just open the cylinder and take a look.
It's all right there, so less room for surprises.
the market size and depth. But gun shoppers, carefully consider the
used market, if value and cost are issues.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:33 PM (El6T/)
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An excellent observation.
I will add that revolvers are well-suited to the used market because they are so easy to inspect. No fussing with a bore light, just open the cylinder and take a look.
It's all right there, so less room for surprises.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:37 PM (cfSRQ)
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I've seen a lot of stuff on Twitter (and an
editorial in the LA Times) about how "we're coming to your
neighborhood", but I haven't seen much evidence it's actually true. I
expect things won't go well if they actually try to follow through on
that threat.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 07, 2020 09:32 PM (wGeit)
They have tried that in several locales and have been met with men with guns telling them to move along (and, in one particularly hilarious case, they were met by one man with a chainsaw who actually chased them down the road until they left).
editorial in the LA Times) about how "we're coming to your
neighborhood", but I haven't seen much evidence it's actually true. I
expect things won't go well if they actually try to follow through on
that threat.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 07, 2020 09:32 PM (wGeit)
They have tried that in several locales and have been met with men with guns telling them to move along (and, in one particularly hilarious case, they were met by one man with a chainsaw who actually chased them down the road until they left).
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 09:37 PM (nAiE/)
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Some point this coming I plan on taking my BP revolvers out for some exercise. They've been badly neglected lately, only fondled for cleaning purposes.
To me, handling and shooting them is akin to holding history in your hands. People tend to view them as primitive toys all too often, but getting hit with a .454 round ball kills you as dead as that Glock.
Not to mention how surprisingly accurate they are.
Some point this coming I plan on taking my BP revolvers out for some exercise. They've been badly neglected lately, only fondled for cleaning purposes.
To me, handling and shooting them is akin to holding history in your hands. People tend to view them as primitive toys all too often, but getting hit with a .454 round ball kills you as dead as that Glock.
Not to mention how surprisingly accurate they are.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 07, 2020 09:38 PM (KATBx)
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"444 "425 Not long ago on this blog, discussions were held about "their side" and "our side" and how each would fare in a "hot civil war."
Are we in a hot civil war? If not, why?
If so, who's winning?
Seems to me one side showed up, the other didn't.
Why?
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Civilly Disobedient at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (3H9h1) "
My 0.02 ?
it's that "lawn order" thing ... our side mostly still views the law as something to be obeyed and respected, and at a very gut level.
before we can seriously start active resistance, we will need to get okay with transgressing those boundaries a bit.
not advocating it of course, just sayin' ..."
We had a blatant coup attempt and didn't torch D.C. It would have been fully justified if that had been a successful op. People supinely allowed themselves to be locked down and that led to this psychotic episode. Now, I am getting a feeling people are getting fed up with the Left finally but look at what it took. All of which is to say you are correct.
Are we in a hot civil war? If not, why?
If so, who's winning?
Seems to me one side showed up, the other didn't.
Why?
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Civilly Disobedient at June 07, 2020 09:15 PM (3H9h1) "
My 0.02 ?
it's that "lawn order" thing ... our side mostly still views the law as something to be obeyed and respected, and at a very gut level.
before we can seriously start active resistance, we will need to get okay with transgressing those boundaries a bit.
not advocating it of course, just sayin' ..."
We had a blatant coup attempt and didn't torch D.C. It would have been fully justified if that had been a successful op. People supinely allowed themselves to be locked down and that led to this psychotic episode. Now, I am getting a feeling people are getting fed up with the Left finally but look at what it took. All of which is to say you are correct.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 07, 2020 09:38 PM (puu6v)
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Robert - you probably know about it, but a very cool website for gun nutz/movie buffs is imfdb.org - the internet firearms movie database. If'n you're wondering "what was that guy shooting in that scene?".
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:38 PM (El6T/)
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In 1968, what fueled the riots and kept them going all summer was the Vietnam War, and the deaths that kept piling up and up and up, not to mention the threat of the draft to a whole bunch of 18 and 19 years old who didn't wanna go.
There's no fuel for the fire anywhere close to that this time around.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (V2Yro)
I don't think this set of riots is organic. There are people organizing and funding them. I'm not sure who, exactly. I hope the FBI and other security orgs can redeem themselves somewhat and figure out what's going on.
All that said, the late '60s were much worse, at least, much worse than things have been so far. There were hundreds of bombs from 1968 to 1972.
There's no fuel for the fire anywhere close to that this time around.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (V2Yro)
I don't think this set of riots is organic. There are people organizing and funding them. I'm not sure who, exactly. I hope the FBI and other security orgs can redeem themselves somewhat and figure out what's going on.
All that said, the late '60s were much worse, at least, much worse than things have been so far. There were hundreds of bombs from 1968 to 1972.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 07, 2020 09:38 PM (wGeit)
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:39 PM (El6T/)
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vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
Doesn't that mean "vigilantes"? Or is it "militia"?
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (Uf/DD)
It means busybody social workers scolding people and looking really disappointed when they commit crimes.
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
Doesn't that mean "vigilantes"? Or is it "militia"?
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (Uf/DD)
It means busybody social workers scolding people and looking really disappointed when they commit crimes.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 09:39 PM (nAiE/)
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I will add that revolvers are well-suited to the used market because they are so easy to inspect. No fussing with a bore light, just open the cylinder and take a look.
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And so many great old police weapons and the civilian versions that so few people want anymore.
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And so many great old police weapons and the civilian versions that so few people want anymore.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:39 PM (KxZpr)
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Holly's rifle makes me just want to pick it up and hold it.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (MxIn6)
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And squeeze it?
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:29 PM (Uf/DD)
And call it George. Seriously, that is a knockout piece of walnut there. It's getting harder and harder (and more $$$) to find wood like that.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 07, 2020 07:29 PM (MxIn6)
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And squeeze it?
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:29 PM (Uf/DD)
And call it George. Seriously, that is a knockout piece of walnut there. It's getting harder and harder (and more $$$) to find wood like that.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 09:40 PM (qc+VF)
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So, with the Minneapolis police department disbanded, does that mean the crime rate drops to zero, as there's no one to document it?
I'm expecting to see the media full of success stories of this new brand of smart government.
I'm expecting to see the media full of success stories of this new brand of smart government.
Posted by: Methos at June 07, 2020 09:40 PM (kOpft)
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519 vows to replace it with a "community-based public safety model"
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
Doesn't that mean "vigilantes"? Or is it "militia"?
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (Uf/DD)
It means busybody social workers scolding people and looking really disappointed when they commit crimes.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 09:39 PM (nAiE/)
It means social workers for a week, a week of panic, and then a police force by some other name.
Posted by: Tami at June 07, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)
Doesn't that mean "vigilantes"? Or is it "militia"?
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (Uf/DD)
It means busybody social workers scolding people and looking really disappointed when they commit crimes.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 09:39 PM (nAiE/)
It means social workers for a week, a week of panic, and then a police force by some other name.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 07, 2020 09:41 PM (wGeit)
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Weasel,
Thanks for another wonderful thread.There is so much good info that comes from it.
The hint has come from Prince and Mrs. JTB that it's time for the evening snack so I'll send this now in case we are swept away on an ONT wave.
Thanks for another wonderful thread.There is so much good info that comes from it.
The hint has come from Prince and Mrs. JTB that it's time for the evening snack so I'll send this now in case we are swept away on an ONT wave.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 09:41 PM (7EjX1)
525
I saw that!
Felt it was fake.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (siRtV)
I don't think it was. I've been to the Valley (rio grande valley, the residents just call it the valley) He looked and sounded pretty typical.
and I'm not glorifying them, probably half of McAllen has got relatives in the cartels. But you don't fuck around with them.
There was a comment in that twitter feed (which seems to be down now) which was especially hilarious. "THIS GUYS GOT A CHAINSAW SOMEBODY CALL THE POLICE! OH WAIT WE HATE THE POLICE!!!"
Felt it was fake.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (siRtV)
I don't think it was. I've been to the Valley (rio grande valley, the residents just call it the valley) He looked and sounded pretty typical.
and I'm not glorifying them, probably half of McAllen has got relatives in the cartels. But you don't fuck around with them.
There was a comment in that twitter feed (which seems to be down now) which was especially hilarious. "THIS GUYS GOT A CHAINSAW SOMEBODY CALL THE POLICE! OH WAIT WE HATE THE POLICE!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:41 PM (V2Yro)
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Not gonna get into the topic too much, but the '68 (and just before/just after) riots were about a lot more than Vietnam - I'd say the ones we are thinking of (urban, actual riots) had little to do with that, and much to do with other things. There were other disturbances directly linked to "anti-war" sentiment, but I don't think DC's business district or Newark or Detroit and the like were anti-war things.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:41 PM (El6T/)
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Warlordism is a long tradition in the Somali culture.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at June 07, 2020 09:41 PM (yQpMk)
528
In 1968, what fueled the riots and kept them going
all summer was the Vietnam War, and the deaths that kept piling up and
up and up, not to mention the threat of the draft to a whole bunch of 18
and 19 years old who didn't wanna go.
There's no fuel for the fire anywhere close to that this time around.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (V2Yro)
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It was also because segregation was so fresh and when it ended, there was frustration that things didn't instantly get better. Plus MLK got shot, etc.
The current generation acts like Selma was last week, but it happened before *middle aged* people were born. It's two generations ago, going on three.
We elected a black president to two terms, Oprah is one of the richest women in the world but *do go on* how American society is so discriminatory.
*Actually, it is, vs Asians. It's going to be interesting what happens when they are finally barred from putting their kids in good schools. Tiger moms unleashed, as it were.
all summer was the Vietnam War, and the deaths that kept piling up and
up and up, not to mention the threat of the draft to a whole bunch of 18
and 19 years old who didn't wanna go.
There's no fuel for the fire anywhere close to that this time around.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (V2Yro)
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It was also because segregation was so fresh and when it ended, there was frustration that things didn't instantly get better. Plus MLK got shot, etc.
The current generation acts like Selma was last week, but it happened before *middle aged* people were born. It's two generations ago, going on three.
We elected a black president to two terms, Oprah is one of the richest women in the world but *do go on* how American society is so discriminatory.
*Actually, it is, vs Asians. It's going to be interesting what happens when they are finally barred from putting their kids in good schools. Tiger moms unleashed, as it were.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:42 PM (cfSRQ)
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So, with the Minneapolis police department disbanded, does that mean the crime rate drops to zero, as there's no one to document it?
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It will be tragic to watch people in Minneapolis becoming confused at why violent crimes against black people somehow keep increasing once all the Minneapolis cops are no longer committing all the violent crimes against black people.
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It will be tragic to watch people in Minneapolis becoming confused at why violent crimes against black people somehow keep increasing once all the Minneapolis cops are no longer committing all the violent crimes against black people.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:42 PM (KxZpr)
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Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:39 PM (El6T/)
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You're much too kind! This is all my normal BS, but I really do appreciate you all for coming back week after week. You all are what makes this fun! Otherwise, I'd be talking to myself.
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You're much too kind! This is all my normal BS, but I really do appreciate you all for coming back week after week. You all are what makes this fun! Otherwise, I'd be talking to myself.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:42 PM (MVjcR)
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474 a 3%er arrested for the Killing of David Dorn
I know, it's a shocker
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 09:26 PM (JgrP5)
Yes, but the real shocker is if any Progda networks even mention it.
I am going to watch out for that. Actually, what I'm going to do is watch Newsbusters.org for a few days, they track these details pretty well.
Maybe one or two of them will give a 5 or 10 second mention, without any video or background, of course. They can then claim "see! we are fair!"
right.
I know, it's a shocker
Posted by: REDACTED at June 07, 2020 09:26 PM (JgrP5)
Yes, but the real shocker is if any Progda networks even mention it.
I am going to watch out for that. Actually, what I'm going to do is watch Newsbusters.org for a few days, they track these details pretty well.
Maybe one or two of them will give a 5 or 10 second mention, without any video or background, of course. They can then claim "see! we are fair!"
right.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 07, 2020 09:42 PM (sy5kK)
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I know it's absurd on its face, but is Antifa going to claim to be Constitutionally Protected Militia?
Posted by: davidt at June 07, 2020 09:43 PM (l3+k2)
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Felt it was fake.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (siRtV)
Not fake. Alas, they arrested him. It was in McAllen.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (siRtV)
Not fake. Alas, they arrested him. It was in McAllen.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 07, 2020 09:43 PM (6sh7A)
534
A horde instruction manual for AR assembly could be fun.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:44 PM (KxZpr)
535
No tractor today? Well, I guess maybe next week.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 07, 2020 09:44 PM (wGeit)
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In 1968, what fueled the riots and kept them going all summer was the Vietnam War, and the deaths that kept piling up and up and up, not to mention the threat of the draft to a whole bunch of 18 and 19 years old who didn't wanna go.
There's no fuel for the fire anywhere close to that this time around.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (V2Yro)
I don't think this set of riots is organic. There are people organizing and funding them. I'm not sure who, exactly. I hope the FBI and other security orgs can redeem themselves somewhat and figure out what's going on.
All that said, the late '60s were much worse, at least, much worse than things have been so far. There were hundreds of bombs from 1968 to 1972.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 07, 2020 09:38 PM (wGeit)
The 60s riots weren't exactly organic either, the KGB basically funded the whole antiwar movement back then (if memory serves, that came out later in the Venona Papers).
In 1968, what fueled the riots and kept them going all summer was the Vietnam War, and the deaths that kept piling up and up and up, not to mention the threat of the draft to a whole bunch of 18 and 19 years old who didn't wanna go.
There's no fuel for the fire anywhere close to that this time around.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (V2Yro)
I don't think this set of riots is organic. There are people organizing and funding them. I'm not sure who, exactly. I hope the FBI and other security orgs can redeem themselves somewhat and figure out what's going on.
All that said, the late '60s were much worse, at least, much worse than things have been so far. There were hundreds of bombs from 1968 to 1972.
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 07, 2020 09:38 PM (wGeit)
The 60s riots weren't exactly organic either, the KGB basically funded the whole antiwar movement back then (if memory serves, that came out later in the Venona Papers).
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 07, 2020 09:44 PM (EGyGV)
537
You all are the best. No kidding!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:30 PM (MVjcR)
Yeah, we're just pretty dang awesome, aren't we? But if any cob deserves us, you do. Thanks Weasel.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:30 PM (MVjcR)
Yeah, we're just pretty dang awesome, aren't we? But if any cob deserves us, you do. Thanks Weasel.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 09:44 PM (qc+VF)
538
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 09:41 PM (7EjX1)
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Thank you and goodnight! Please give my best to Mrs. JTB!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:44 PM (MVjcR)
539
Well there is some revolver inspection, at least my current understanding, and one I've used in buying. Just checking "lock-up" and "end shake". Pretty simple. So, yeah, very little inspection, and bores probably aren't much of a concern.
And for true bargain shoppers, a scuffed up revolver that is mechanically perfect ..... those can be downright cheap.
And for true bargain shoppers, a scuffed up revolver that is mechanically perfect ..... those can be downright cheap.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:44 PM (El6T/)
540
I've seen a lot of stuff on Twitter (and an editorial in the LA Times)
about how "we're coming to your neighborhood", but I haven't seen much
evidence it's actually true. I expect things won't go well if they
actually try to follow through on that threat.
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There were activities in the Chicago suburbs, mostly sacking of stores, but not at quite the scale found in the cities.
The BLM march that went by my house was clearly a couple hundred white suburbanites looking for a black to kneel to.
about how "we're coming to your neighborhood", but I haven't seen much
evidence it's actually true. I expect things won't go well if they
actually try to follow through on that threat.
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There were activities in the Chicago suburbs, mostly sacking of stores, but not at quite the scale found in the cities.
The BLM march that went by my house was clearly a couple hundred white suburbanites looking for a black to kneel to.
Posted by: Methos at June 07, 2020 09:45 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: jsg at June 07, 2020 09:45 PM (zrcnm)
542
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Posted by: vmom 2020 at June 07, 2020 09:45 PM (WwTwF)
543
a 3%er arrested for the Killing of David Dorn
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sorry, I missed the snark.
I'm kinda embarrassed for that.
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sorry, I missed the snark.
I'm kinda embarrassed for that.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 07, 2020 09:46 PM (sy5kK)
544
Nood fappers.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 07, 2020 09:46 PM (vFo9d)
545
539 Well there is some revolver inspection, at least my current understanding, and one I've used in buying. Just checking "lock-up" and "end shake". Pretty simple. So, yeah, very little inspection, and bores probably aren't much of a concern.
And for true bargain shoppers, a scuffed up revolver that is mechanically perfect ..... those can be downright cheap.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:44 PM (El6T/)
I like revolvers. As Kim Du Toit used to say "A revolver is like a fork. It just works."
And for true bargain shoppers, a scuffed up revolver that is mechanically perfect ..... those can be downright cheap.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 07, 2020 09:44 PM (El6T/)
I like revolvers. As Kim Du Toit used to say "A revolver is like a fork. It just works."
Posted by: Ace's liver at June 07, 2020 09:46 PM (wGeit)
546
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 09:44 PM (qc+VF)
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Thanks BtB. Looking forward to shooting with you again in October!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:46 PM (MVjcR)
547
I'm reminded of Peter Egan's tool musings:
woodbutcher.net/tools.shtml
"Grease gun: A messy tool for checking to see if your zirk fittings are still plugged with rust."
woodbutcher.net/tools.shtml
"Grease gun: A messy tool for checking to see if your zirk fittings are still plugged with rust."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - End the systemic racism of affirmative action. at June 07, 2020 09:47 PM (KxZpr)
548
Thanks again, Weasel! Always a pleasure. I may have something for you during the week.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at June 07, 2020 09:47 PM (cfSRQ)
549
it's that "lawn order" thing ... our side mostly still views the law as something to be obeyed and respected, and at a very gut level. before we can seriously start active resistance, we will need to get okay with transgressing those boundaries a bit.
That's a big part of it; a large number of our side would have get okay with the idea real quick because the first one to go hot, even in completely justifiable self defense, will open the door for full-on confiscation moves. These commie fuckers are just salivating for the first shot.
I gotta say am feeling like an angry chump. Still following the rules, paying enough taxes to choke a horse, but have to shut up, prole! So all I can do is refuse to submit to the mask and drive like every bit of asphalt is the effin autobahn.
That's a big part of it; a large number of our side would have get okay with the idea real quick because the first one to go hot, even in completely justifiable self defense, will open the door for full-on confiscation moves. These commie fuckers are just salivating for the first shot.
I gotta say am feeling like an angry chump. Still following the rules, paying enough taxes to choke a horse, but have to shut up, prole! So all I can do is refuse to submit to the mask and drive like every bit of asphalt is the effin autobahn.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at June 07, 2020 09:48 PM (FubcM)
550
548 Thanks again, Weasel! Always a pleasure. I may have something for you during the week.
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You bet. Happy to do it. Thanks AHL.
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You bet. Happy to do it. Thanks AHL.
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:48 PM (MVjcR)
551
Plenty of riots in the late 60s were about nothing but police brutality, and while rioting is never a good thing, they were actually being brutalized in many places.
My mama was a nurse in downtown LA in the 60s, and she said the LA cops were racist assholes to the core. She is not the kind of person to say bad things about anyone, but to this day, she talks about how they'd sit around in the nurses break room (after bringing someone in they had likely beat the hell out of) and laugh about how they better get back on the street and find some N-words to ticket.
So, again, rioting is never, ever justified, but there was some shit going down in the 60s.
My mama was a nurse in downtown LA in the 60s, and she said the LA cops were racist assholes to the core. She is not the kind of person to say bad things about anyone, but to this day, she talks about how they'd sit around in the nurses break room (after bringing someone in they had likely beat the hell out of) and laugh about how they better get back on the street and find some N-words to ticket.
So, again, rioting is never, ever justified, but there was some shit going down in the 60s.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 07, 2020 09:49 PM (6sh7A)
552
514 ..."Some point this coming I plan on taking my BP revolvers out for some exercise. They've been badly neglected lately, only fondled for cleaning purposes.
To me, handling and shooting them is akin to holding history in your hands. People tend to view them as primitive toys all too often, but getting hit with a .454 round ball kills you as dead as that Glock.
Not to mention how surprisingly accurate they are."
irongrampa,
Amen! Anyone in doubt should see what a plastic soda bottle looks like after a hit from a Ruger Old Army or Colt 1860.
To me, handling and shooting them is akin to holding history in your hands. People tend to view them as primitive toys all too often, but getting hit with a .454 round ball kills you as dead as that Glock.
Not to mention how surprisingly accurate they are."
irongrampa,
Amen! Anyone in doubt should see what a plastic soda bottle looks like after a hit from a Ruger Old Army or Colt 1860.
Posted by: JTB at June 07, 2020 09:50 PM (7EjX1)
553
OK everyone, that's a wrap for this week. Thanks again and I will check in the morning to make sure I didn't miss any late questions. Have a great week!
Posted by: Weasel at June 07, 2020 09:50 PM (MVjcR)
554
Hello: Minneapolis 911
Caller: OMG! There is a crowd of hundreds with rocks, bricks, and bottles, walking right down the street and towards my house! Send the cops!
Minn 911: Sorry, there are no longer any police. We are outreach for the community. Did you ask them how they really feel?
Caller: OMG! WHAT?!
Minn 911: Go out to them, kneel down, and beg forgiveness. If the males start unzipping your pants in front of you, well, you've seen pron before, haven't you?
Call us back to see if that works.
Hello: Minneapolis 911
Caller: OMG! There is a crowd of hundreds with rocks, bricks, and bottles, walking right down the street and towards my house! Send the cops!
Minn 911: Sorry, there are no longer any police. We are outreach for the community. Did you ask them how they really feel?
Caller: OMG! WHAT?!
Minn 911: Go out to them, kneel down, and beg forgiveness. If the males start unzipping your pants in front of you, well, you've seen pron before, haven't you?
Call us back to see if that works.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 07, 2020 09:51 PM (sy5kK)
555
Y'all have fun and thanks as always Weasel.
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556
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Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at June 07, 2020 09:53 PM (qc+VF)
557
Hey Weasel, we think you are pretty daggone great as well. I read a lot, but the Gun Thread is a big time high light.
Posted by: Jesse in DC at June 07, 2020 09:53 PM (ouR/N)
558
My mama was a nurse in downtown LA in the 60s, and she said the LA cops were racist assholes to the core. She is not the kind of person to say bad things about anyone, but to this day, she talks about how they'd sit around in the nurses break room (after bringing someone in they had likely beat the hell out of) and laugh about how they better get back on the street and find some N-words to ticket.
So, again, rioting is never, ever justified, but there was some shit going down in the 60s.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 07, 2020 09:49 PM (6sh7A)
The 60's? Racist? Nah. 200 years, baby!
So, again, rioting is never, ever justified, but there was some shit going down in the 60s.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 07, 2020 09:49 PM (6sh7A)
The 60's? Racist? Nah. 200 years, baby!
Posted by: Lyndon Baines Johnson at June 07, 2020 09:53 PM (sy5kK)
559
That flash - bang is so much more powerful than a
precision trigger sensation that the trigger literally gets lost in the
noise of what is going on.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (0l/6b)
Maybe for most small variations. But I have a pistol with an atrocious trigger pull that makes it really hard to put rounds on target.
YMMV
precision trigger sensation that the trigger literally gets lost in the
noise of what is going on.
Posted by: An Observation at June 07, 2020 07:43 PM (0l/6b)
Maybe for most small variations. But I have a pistol with an atrocious trigger pull that makes it really hard to put rounds on target.
YMMV
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 09:56 PM (Uf/DD)
560
- Sling: add'l hardware may be needed ($50)
- Mags: Magpul is good, but so are others. Don't cheap out here. ($20/ea)
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (t+qrx)
I got my sling for $12. But I am not springing for tactical or "single-point" or any of that.PSA had Magpuls for $12 each.
- Mags: Magpul is good, but so are others. Don't cheap out here. ($20/ea)
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 07:46 PM (t+qrx)
I got my sling for $12. But I am not springing for tactical or "single-point" or any of that.PSA had Magpuls for $12 each.
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 10:09 PM (Uf/DD)
561
I don't think it was. I've been to the Valley (rio grande valley, the residents just call it the valley) He looked and sounded pretty typical.
and I'm not glorifying them, probably half of McAllen has got relatives in the cartels. But you don't fuck around with them.
There was a comment in that twitter feed (which seems to be down now) which was especially hilarious. "THIS GUYS GOT A CHAINSAW SOMEBODY CALL THE POLICE! OH WAIT WE HATE THE POLICE!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:41 PM (V2Yro)
Heh, I'm from the Valley!
I just watch the video and think there's something oddly performative about the whole thing. Maybe I'm just a dumb cynic, but shit stirrers gonna stir shit. Videos like that don't usually capture action from the beginning like this one, but usually in the middle. Also the dude seemed nonplussed about being recorded.
But if it is real? That man is my new spirit animal.
and I'm not glorifying them, probably half of McAllen has got relatives in the cartels. But you don't fuck around with them.
There was a comment in that twitter feed (which seems to be down now) which was especially hilarious. "THIS GUYS GOT A CHAINSAW SOMEBODY CALL THE POLICE! OH WAIT WE HATE THE POLICE!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 07, 2020 09:41 PM (V2Yro)
Heh, I'm from the Valley!
I just watch the video and think there's something oddly performative about the whole thing. Maybe I'm just a dumb cynic, but shit stirrers gonna stir shit. Videos like that don't usually capture action from the beginning like this one, but usually in the middle. Also the dude seemed nonplussed about being recorded.
But if it is real? That man is my new spirit animal.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2020 10:13 PM (siRtV)
562
On revolvers, there are Smith and Wessons, Rugers, and Colts.
Smiths can have some issues, production quality slipped during the Bangor Punta era and apparently some of their current revolvers are showing some issues. Rugers, generally fine beasts of revolvers if not abused, Colts, pre 1968, be careful as the old double action of a Colt was handfitted and did not take abuse well--Colt gunsmiths are few and far between nowadays. Post 1968, the more modern actions are okay but parts are scarce. The new Colts are fine.
Usually not so obvious problems on revolvers are bent cranes, out of timing, or botched trigger jobs. I have them all (Colts, Rugers, and Smiths in revolvers and a few others besides) and like them but if starting today as a new gun buyer, I would frankly buy a Glock 19 if I could afford only one gun.
Smiths can have some issues, production quality slipped during the Bangor Punta era and apparently some of their current revolvers are showing some issues. Rugers, generally fine beasts of revolvers if not abused, Colts, pre 1968, be careful as the old double action of a Colt was handfitted and did not take abuse well--Colt gunsmiths are few and far between nowadays. Post 1968, the more modern actions are okay but parts are scarce. The new Colts are fine.
Usually not so obvious problems on revolvers are bent cranes, out of timing, or botched trigger jobs. I have them all (Colts, Rugers, and Smiths in revolvers and a few others besides) and like them but if starting today as a new gun buyer, I would frankly buy a Glock 19 if I could afford only one gun.
Posted by: whig at June 07, 2020 10:23 PM (dQFEv)
563
I got my sling for $12. But I am not springing for tactical or "single-point" or any of that.PSA had Magpuls for $12 each.
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 10:09 PM (Uf/DD)
I have an ordinary 2-point sling, but I had to add the mounting hardware. I didn't remember exactly what I paid, but it never hurts to assume a little more than you expect. Worst that happens is you end up with ammo money left over from the parts budget.
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 10:09 PM (Uf/DD)
I have an ordinary 2-point sling, but I had to add the mounting hardware. I didn't remember exactly what I paid, but it never hurts to assume a little more than you expect. Worst that happens is you end up with ammo money left over from the parts budget.
Posted by: hogmartin at June 07, 2020 10:26 PM (t+qrx)
564
Felt it was fake.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (siRtV)
Not fake. Alas, they arrested him. It was in McAllen.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 07, 2020 09:43 PM (6sh7A)
I think he is more likely to get a parade than to be convicted by a jury.
Posted by: Robert at June 07, 2020 09:35 PM (siRtV)
Not fake. Alas, they arrested him. It was in McAllen.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at June 07, 2020 09:43 PM (6sh7A)
I think he is more likely to get a parade than to be convicted by a jury.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at June 07, 2020 10:27 PM (nAiE/)
565
Rocks ain't very dangerous until you knapp them into arrowheads or axes. And strap them to handles.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:27 PM (Z4rgH)
Or you throw it hard enough.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 07, 2020 08:27 PM (Z4rgH)
Or you throw it hard enough.
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 10:49 PM (Uf/DD)
566
I know it's already willowed, but...
launched springs and detents.
Posted by: ck at June 07, 2020 09:19 PM (Gf0Po)
I haven't gone through my video, yet, but the only spring I almost lost was the buffer retaining doohickey. I took the buffer back out and let go of the pin and peeyow! off it went. I turned off the video and spent 10 minutes looking for it - it was in the box lid.
launched springs and detents.
Posted by: ck at June 07, 2020 09:19 PM (Gf0Po)
I haven't gone through my video, yet, but the only spring I almost lost was the buffer retaining doohickey. I took the buffer back out and let go of the pin and peeyow! off it went. I turned off the video and spent 10 minutes looking for it - it was in the box lid.
Posted by: GWB at June 07, 2020 11:42 PM (Uf/DD)
567
Perspectives will change...
The merciless cruel looters-rioters all burn down their society and fellow men, then the violence will subside and the same people will bawl their eyes out to have to live in the very areas they plundered and burned.
If you don't like drinking polluted water, don't piss in the well you drink from.
If only rebels had that much intelligence, eh?
The merciless cruel looters-rioters all burn down their society and fellow men, then the violence will subside and the same people will bawl their eyes out to have to live in the very areas they plundered and burned.
If you don't like drinking polluted water, don't piss in the well you drink from.
If only rebels had that much intelligence, eh?
Posted by: ron n. at June 08, 2020 12:13 AM (om5HK)
568
democrats are the biggest forces to encourage Americans to arm themselves. Except democrats want us to disarm and trust the police to defend/protect us. The very same police the democrats want to eliminate. Socialism agendas drive democrats insane, and this is proof !
Why should Mexican drug lords be supplied with weapons, and law abiding Americas be disarmed ? George Soros utilizes useful fools !
Why should Mexican drug lords be supplied with weapons, and law abiding Americas be disarmed ? George Soros utilizes useful fools !
Posted by: ron n. at June 08, 2020 12:18 AM (om5HK)
569
irongrampa....like you, I love black powder, and have gone as far as to use black powder revolvers for home defense....third , or fourth tier, but there, none the less. A couple of weeks ago, I took out a chopped .44 Remington copy I had very carefully loaded six months prior. Six out of six downrange, no issues. It killed men 100 plus years ago, it can kill them today.....Jasonj......
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