Saturday Evening Movie Thread 05-30-2020 [Hosted By: Moviegique]

This Film Is Not Yet Rated

I have, in the past, been a bit of a censorship buff (which, sadly, is neither the least weird nor the least boring thing about me) so I was much intrigued by Kirby Dick’s film exposé of the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA) This Film Is Not Yet Rated. The film, of course, is not actually rated, severely limiting it’s options for box-office success—the point of the film—but given the way most people reacted when I said I had seen it, I doubt this made much of a difference. Sample true dialogue:

“I just saw a film
about the MPAA.”
“The what?”

“The MPAA! The Motion
Picture Association of America.”
“Oh.” Blinks of
non-recognition.
“They rate the
movies!”
“‘kay.”
“They’re also lobby
for the studios.”
“Got any dip?”

People do not seem to be fascinated by the topic. I first became aware of the ratings board through the late H.B. Halicki who griped that his film Gone In 60 Seconds (the 1974 classic, not the recent remake) had gotten an R-rating instead of a PG because he was an independent and not a big studio. (By the way, I was told this story second-hand as a young child, so it may be entirely apocryphal.) Nonetheless, indies getting a harsh rating where the board was lenient with the big studios are a fair chunk of this film’s exposé.

Most of this movie's posters have a naked woman on them, not that it's dabbling in exploitation. *kaff*

The reason I’ve been fascinated with censorship in the past is precisely because it is, almost by definition, arbitrary. One use of the F-bomb gets you a “PG”, unless you use it to refer to the act, in which case it gets you an “R”, to use one of the few, semi-hard-ish rules that the basically free-wheeling MPAA uses. The excellent Gunner Palace is riddled with swear words and gets a PG-13, presumably because it’s a documentary, and because the director appealed (and won).

I have to say before I get into specifics, that while I went into the film thinking ratings boards and censorship were generally stupid, I actually came out with a bit more respect for the ratings board, especially when presented with the film’s idea of alternatives. This is probably a bad sign, like when I came out of Enron: The Smartest Guys In The Room thinking that the media had unfairly demonized Ken Lay. I’m sure that this wasn’t the filmmaker’s intention but then, I can get a little contrary if I think I’m being manipulated.

In between making various points, the film shows largely gratuitous clips of (mostly sex) scenes that got other films “NC-17” or “X” ratings. This was the most entertaining aspect of the film. Also, the film maker hires a detective to “out” the members of the ratings board, who are generally kept anonymous. This felt a little creepy.

Come see all the scenes edited out of other movies for BEING TOO HOT! (Totally not exploitation.)

So, what are the movie’s basic points?

The MPAA, a
private organization, holds tremendous power that favors its members and
locks indies out of theaters.

The MPAA ratings process is ill-defined and mysterious. Its
appeals process is even more so.

The MPAA claims not to be a censorship board but, in fact, is,
since an href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NC-17#X_is_replaced_by_NC-17">NC-17
kills a movie’s box office.

People should be aware of what’s going on.

A more sensible ratings system should be used. One that reflects a
broader set of values.

Other minor premises:

The government should do the rating, if there’s any rating to be
done.

Sex should be less strongly rated than violence.

The movie studios have been colluding with the US military for the
past 40 years to inure the public to violence so they’ll be more
amenable to war.

I did not make that last one up. But let’s start with the top five points: First, the MPAA is a private organization and it most certainly favors the big studios that formed it. The film’s most correctly damning example comes from Kevin Smith, whose film Jersey Girl is a solid “PG-13”, or even a “PG”. There’s a discussion about masturbation that pushed it into an “R” because one of the raters would be uncomfortable if her 16-year-old daughter heard about that mysterious practice. This is such a mild film and such a mild discussion—about on a par with a “Seinfeld” episode—that the “R” seems absurd. It also seems unlikely that they would’ve given an “R” to a major player in the same circumstance.

I think this part comes right after Kevin Smith argues against "hackneyed" ideas. And this trope must be the most hackneyed idea in history.

Second, the MPAA is mysterious, weird and, em, obtuse. This is a big deal for the filmmakers who appear in TFINYR. But honestly, what do I care? The bulk of the greatest movies ever made were made under far more restrictive rules. Do I find it weird that the MPAA sometimes seems to penalize filmmakers for showing female orgasms? I suppose. Is the point possibly undermined by having the lesbian director of the dishonest Boys Don’t Cry whine about not being able to show Chloe Sevigny’s orgasm as given by Hillary Swank to the degree she’d like? Probably, yes, for most people.

Also, the murky appeals process involves clergy, which seems to appall Mr. Dick. It’s not clear whether they vote or not, but they probably have a “chilling” effect in some fashion. The process being already weird is made that much weirder and perhaps anachronistic, given the diminished role of the church in society.

Third, the MPAA is a censorship board. This is true, but it’s not really their fault that large chains and newspapers won’t play or run ads for NC-17 films. So, what it comes down to is that you can do whatever crazy thing you want in your movie, but you’ll pay the price for it. And what we really have is filmmakers bitching about that price. But, it’s not really clear what would happen in the absence of the NC-17. Surely the objections to the material being shown would not evaporate. Here, we clearly have a situation where (once again) people fail to realize the difference between “nobody wants to listen to me” and “I’m being censored!”

Fourth, sure, people should know. Why not. But do they care? Probably not as much as passionate filmmakers believe.

The movie disintegrates on point number five. There is no such thing as a sensible ratings system, especially in a country like the U.S. of A. In order to establish what is offensive, you have to be able to catalogue all the things that offend people. And we are too diverse. Nowhere is this made more hilariously obvious in the parade of filmmakers discussing what they would consider unsuitable for younger audiences. At this point, I began to feel sorry for the raters. The chestnut always dredged up is that sex should be more permissible than violence. (For some people it’s always 1969 and we need to “make love, not war”.) Kevin Smith offers the most interesting suggestion: Hackneyed plot ideas should be given severe ratings.

The Dick that made this film.

Perhaps surprisingly, listening to the litany of things that the various directors themselves find offensive, you realize they’re not at all against censorship: They’d actually impose more of it. They just want to pick what gets censored.

About 2/3rds of the way through, the movie swings to the far left, starting with the observation that war movies that want the Pentagon’s help have to be approved by the Pentagon. (What a shock: An organization doesn’t want to help you make them look bad!) This culminates in the idea that Hollywood is part of a grand conspiracy to make war acceptable to the general public through film. (Like I said, for some people, it’s always 1969. And the guy who said that apparently hasn’t seen a movie since 1969.)

Finally, the film swings back to reality, showing us Dick’s own attempt to get a rating—which must, by definition be NC-17, since it’s laden with scenes from other films that got them NC-17s. This was, at least more interesting than the conspiracy silliness but the documentary seemed to be dragging at this point. Only a few minutes are spent at the very end with the MPAA’s lobbying efforts, which are highly destructive and against the public interest (copyright extension and the reduction of “fair use”, the DMCA, etc.). The actual substantive destructiveness of the MPAA as a lobby would have been more interesting than the trips to la-la land, and the extensive sub-plot where lesbian detectives reveal the identities of people you don’t really care about.

Once again, it’s weird and it’s arbitrary, but that’s what the “Director’s Cut” is for. And that’s what this film skirts, and has to skirt to be relevant at all. Box-office receipts account for an increasingly small percentage of a movie’s total receipts. DVDs are constantly released in “unrated” versions, and the film itself comes on the (cultural) eve of Internet distribution, threatening to render all ratings boards and censorship irrelevant. It was kind of a gutsy move to make the movie, sure, but I somehow doubt most people are going to feel the outrage that filmmakers do when they feel like some talentless hacks have say over their work.

"Lesbian Dicks" is such a good name for a cop show, I'm shocked it hasn't been done. (Wait, is that what they called the reboot of "Cagney and Lacey"?)

But the point missed, overall, is that the board ostensibly exists for the public. The real question is does the public feel served by the ratings board? Dick never asks that question, preferring instead to take the opinions of people who are, by definition, outside the mainstream.

As a documentary, I give it fair marks: it makes most of its points pretty well, though veering off occasionally. As entertainment, it’s uneven. The killer, though, is relevance: It’s not the '50s, the MPAA isn’t the Hayes Commission, and the film treats the real, modern threat of the MPAA (as a lobbyist group) almost as an afterthought.

As a postscript, I saw this movie at the Laemmle in Encino, which is about a mile from the MPAA headquarters. So, it was pretty cool to be watching them drive around my stomping grounds for most of the movie.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 07:53 PM

Comments

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1 First

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 07:54 PM (+b1ew)

2 Huh?

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2020 07:54 PM (JUOKG)

3 Movie sign!

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 07:55 PM (VNfwt)

4 Finished my ice cream and pretzels

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2020 07:56 PM (ZCEU2)

5 Unplanned got screwed by getting an 'R' rating for showing an abortion which all you saw of was blood filling up a vacuum tube. I've seen worse in PG-13 movies. I believe this was done in bad faith.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 30, 2020 07:56 PM (FbBpr)

6 top Ten??

Posted by: Anonymous Guy In Ca at May 30, 2020 07:56 PM (FnwlK)

7 Dinosaurus on Sven. Crap on TCM.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 07:57 PM (VNfwt)

8 I've no doubt the MPAA has an agenda.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 07:57 PM (+b1ew)

9 7 Dinosaurus on Sven. Crap on TCM.
Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 07:57 PM (VNfwt)

Sven or "protests"...decisions decisions....

Posted by: Anonymous Guy In Ca at May 30, 2020 07:58 PM (FnwlK)

10 kameltoe harris outside the whitehouse trying to look tough.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 30, 2020 07:58 PM (CLteG)

11 Hayes Code anyone?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2020 07:58 PM (Iseto)

12 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 30, 2020 07:58 PM (arJlL)

13 Midnight Cowboy - X rated

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 07:59 PM (2DOZq)

14 Sven now has dinosaurs?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2020 07:59 PM (Iseto)

15 Spike Lee and Charlize Theron will not film until there is a Coronavirus vaccine

Can we slow roll that vaccine for say 10 to 15 years?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 07:59 PM (kNtZ8)

16 Hayes Code anyone?
Posted by: Anna Puma

No thanks, I just et.

Posted by: JT at May 30, 2020 08:00 PM (arJlL)

17 Sven now has dinosaurs?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Hey, last week he had Gargoyles.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:00 PM (VNfwt)

18 ''kameltoe harris outside the whitehouse trying to look tough.''

She really wants that VP nod doesn't she?

Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 08:00 PM (gLRfa)

19 She wants the nod but not Joey Bidet sniffing her hair.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 30, 2020 08:02 PM (Iseto)

20 One of the things I found out about the Hayes code was that men could not show their navels. That's why all those 1930's flicks like Tarzan make the guys look really weird pulling up their shorts so high.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:02 PM (VNfwt)

21 15 Keeping my fingers crossed for never

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2020 08:02 PM (ZCEU2)

22 ''She wants the nod but not Joey Bidet sniffing her hair.''

I'm not so sure about that. I'd bet she'd even let his fingers wander for a chance as his VP.

Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 08:03 PM (gLRfa)

23

Hillary Swank orgasms?

Go on...

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at May 30, 2020 08:03 PM (w3OLr)

24 Wasn't Christopher Dodd, past "waitress sandwich" politician, also head of the MPAA in the past? He's now working on Joe Biden's campaign team, too...

Posted by: gdgm+ at May 30, 2020 08:03 PM (ExnWy)

25 He's now working on Joe Biden's campaign team, too...
Posted by: gdgm+

It's rated D for dementia.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:04 PM (VNfwt)

26 Hey movie thread! Thanks Moviegique!

I wanted to share (I admit I have before), I finally saw Say Anything, the 1989 romcom classic with John Cusack (reminded me of Nic Cage) and Ione Skye (OMG super-hot).

I liked it a lot, especially what I would call the "plot twist" near the end. Yet... I feel as if I could write something just as good, or at least almost as good.

Anyway, I've already started writing my next screenplay, which is a romcom itself. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 30, 2020 08:05 PM (L2ZTs)

27 Can't say ever really paid attention to ratings much, only in what you could see as a kid with other kids.

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2020 08:05 PM (ZCEU2)

28 Pornhub.

Accept no substitutes.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 30, 2020 08:05 PM (JFe9H)

29 ''She wants the nod but not Joey Bidet sniffing her hair.''

her hair is not perfect

dum dum

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:05 PM (JgrP5)

30 ''Midnight Cowboy - X rated''

There should be a rating for depressing movies. That one would get top marks.

Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 08:06 PM (gLRfa)

31 The government should do the rating, if there's any rating to be done.

==

This is going to work out just fine.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:06 PM (zr5Kq)

32
''kameltoe harris outside the whitehouse trying to look tough.''

She really wants that VP nod doesn't she?

Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 08:00 PM

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No way she will get the nod. Trump will destroy her on her record of tossing black men in jail on drug charges.

Way too much baggage for her out there and that's why she never came close to winning anything in the primary.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 30, 2020 08:06 PM (JUOKG)

33 When I got my copy of Bad Lieutenant, I was very surprised it still featured it's NC-17 rating right on the blu-ray box.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 30, 2020 08:06 PM (L2ZTs)

34 ...so did you have any dip or not?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 30, 2020 08:07 PM (t+qrx)

35 This dick for FNC in Brooklyn is wearing a mask. Just stop it already.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:07 PM (VNfwt)

36 Does anyone paid attention to movie ratings anymore? I suppose those making a teen movie try to avoid the R rating .

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 08:07 PM (2DOZq)

37 Trump Lied and persons of choler died. Persins of color are respected in Brattleboro !!! What about your city ???

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at May 30, 2020 08:08 PM (qM84C)

38 Anyway, I've already started writing my next screenplay, which is a romcom itself. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 30, 2020 08:05 PM (L2ZTs)

It was a gloomy day in LA in June ...

Posted by: Adriane the Post Tea Party Little Incident Critic ... at May 30, 2020 08:08 PM (LPnfS)

39 Commentary from a couple of Minneapolis based "White Supremacists"...

"Minneapolis: Somali rioters shout "Free Mohamed Noor" on CNN.

Mohamed Noor was MPD's first Somali cop who shot and killed a white woman who called police for help."

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 30, 2020 08:08 PM (6B+ER)

40

Lipstick Lesbian Dicks: Where the Boy's Aren't

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at May 30, 2020 08:08 PM (w3OLr)

41 When I was a young teen I went to incredible lengths to get a Playboy and better still, a Penthouse. And then I had to hide them from my ultra traditional parents. I still remember a few centerfolds Vividly. Pictures of Lily, indeed.

Movie ratings were invented to protect teens like the former me from this.

But what's the point in the age of pornhub. Seriously, when a bazillion videos have had a million hits each

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 30, 2020 08:08 PM (9TdxA)

42 There should be a rating for depressing movies. That one would get top marks.
Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 08:06 PM (gLRfa)

I'm with ya

movie sucks

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:08 PM (JgrP5)

43 Adriane, LOL.
"And my tenth fan letter to Mila Kunis was still yet unanswered..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 30, 2020 08:08 PM (L2ZTs)

44 Has Tipper Gore been mentioned yet? *spits*

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 30, 2020 08:09 PM (Z4rgH)

45 As an Independent Filmmaker, I must object to any censorship of my art!

Posted by: Weasel at May 30, 2020 08:09 PM (MVjcR)

46 Hmm, actors with no chemistry simulating sex or actual porn.Decisions, decisions...

Posted by: Pelosi's Filthy Fingers at May 30, 2020 08:10 PM (a1s18)

47 Boys Don't Cry is dishonest?

Why, because it isn't a documentary. I read the link. Seems like a lot of nitpickery, unless the complaint is leaving out the black guy who was killed. I can even understand that, from a storytelling perspective, but if his family is upset he was left out, I supposed I could understand it.

Otherwise, yeah, the killer didn't like it, and neither did the Brandon Teena's family.

And??

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:10 PM (hku12)

48 As an Independent Filmmaker, I must object to any censorship of my art!
Posted by: Weasel at May 30, 2020 08:09 PM (MVjcR)

Use a cruise ship then ...

Posted by: Adriane the Post Tea Party Little Incident Critic ... at May 30, 2020 08:11 PM (LPnfS)

49 Just finished "Frogs" with Sam Elliot & a very hot from 1972 Joan Van Ark. https://tinyurl.com/yas4tc58

Now watching "Grizzly" https://tinyurl.com/yayr5qrw

It's supposed to be a 1976 Jaws ripoff with an 18' tall bear.

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 30, 2020 08:12 PM (VcFUs)

50 ''There should be a rating for depressing movies. That one would get top marks.
Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 08:06 PM (gLRfa)

I'm with ya

movie sucks
Posted by: REDACTED''

My sisters and I saw it when it came out. I think it was between my sophomore and junior year of college. Bummer(in the vernacular of the time)

Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 08:12 PM (gLRfa)

51 Movie ratings are really an anachronism, when sites like Rotten Tomatoes will tell you in advance anything possibly objectionable that will be depicted.

All it would probably take is a few major directors (such as say, Tarantino and Soderbergh) to publicly announce, they're not going to have their films pre-screened by MPAA anymore, and the whole thing would start to fall apart, especially if those 'unscreened' films then go on to become hits.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 30, 2020 08:12 PM (L2ZTs)

52 Apparently LA gets serious once Beverly Hills gets threatened.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 08:15 PM (WvQcX)

53 So many films that originally got X ratings are now R. Case in point: A Clockwork Orange.

OTOH, when it was resubmitted, Last Tango In Paris kept its X rating, not for the sex depicted, but because the MPAA's screeners personally objected to the film's irresponsible overuse of butter. :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 30, 2020 08:15 PM (L2ZTs)

54 The entire notion of movie ratings seems quaint, given what's viewable on home TV and the 'net.

Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 08:16 PM (7+QLY)

55 Can a movie be distributed and played in major theaters without a rating ? Or this is what "not yet rated" for ?

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:16 PM (zr5Kq)

56 As an Independent Filmmaker, I must object to any censorship of my art!

Posted by: Weasel at May 30, 2020 08:09 PM (MVjcR)

That tractor spews a lot of carbon, and the dog does too.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 30, 2020 08:17 PM (Z4rgH)

57 Overall, thank you for the review, Moviegique. I will look for this one.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:17 PM (zr5Kq)

58
Hey, last week he had Gargoyles.
Posted by: Blutarski

Penicillin will clear that up.

Posted by: Gooshy at May 30, 2020 08:18 PM (aEYyx)

59 runner--

Movies can be, in the sense that there's no law against it, but many theaters and chains =won't=. Or wouldn't, anyway, 15 years ago. I notice there's a lot of fare these days in the "special events" category which is never rated. None of it is very racy, AFAIK, though.

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:20 PM (CcUfv)

60 I, on recommendation of some members of the horde, gave The Wire a second try. Talk about violence. I liked and hated it at the same time.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:21 PM (zr5Kq)

61

Recently say Jumanji 2 and really enjoyed it. Especially parts of it.

Also I was drunk.

Don't judge me!

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at May 30, 2020 08:21 PM (w3OLr)

62 I want more fantasy sex in movies and realistic violence.

Movies today are fucking neutered compared to what was in the 70's, 80's and even the 90's.

Hell, I can't remember the last time I saw a good, hot kiss in a movie.

On the other hand, there's John Wick. So I should be grateful for that, I guess.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:21 PM (d1uFV)

63 My top five comedies based on never being tired of watching them.

Hollywood Knights
Caddy Shack
Night Shift
Uncle Buck
Major Payne

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 08:21 PM (2DOZq)

64 Special event, special showing. Yes, you see those from time to time.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:22 PM (zr5Kq)

65 runner, good question. I believe there's been examples of at least individual theaters or chains choosing to run things that either aren't rated or weren't rated yet.

Thanks to CV19 as well as myriad other social factors, I do think the old-fashioned first-run theater is... not doomed to extinction, but there's gonna be a lot less of them. There'll be smatterings of them in big cities, but the dawn of Netflix and other internet services will likely ultimately doom most others. Say goodbye to the Googolplex at the Mall.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 30, 2020 08:22 PM (L2ZTs)

66 I yt'd (no cable, hulu, netflix) a really bad Kevin Sorbo movie while waiting for space launch. All the ads were pro Trump. Made it worth my while.

Posted by: Pelosi's Filthy Fingers at May 30, 2020 08:22 PM (a1s18)

67 We're LIVING in Jumanji!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 30, 2020 08:22 PM (L2ZTs)

68 BurtTC--

It's been 15 years but at the time I had done some research and it seemed VERY clear to me that the director had used Teena as an avatar for some other gay person, say, herself, maybe.

I find that dishonest, especially for someone who was recently deceased, and who still had a grieving mother.

It was hugely dishonest when they did the same thing to Alan Turing in "The Imitation Game", which bore no resemblance to any historical references to Turing, but he's at least a historic character.

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:23 PM (CcUfv)

69 Sons of Anarchy is on Netflix. I think I'll watch an episode.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 30, 2020 08:23 PM (Uu+Jp)

70 watch "The Body Snatcher" today

I'm a big fan of Henry Daniell

got a great voice

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:24 PM (JgrP5)

71 I want more fantasy sex in movies and realistic violence.

Watch porn and horror flicks. That should cover it.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:25 PM (zr5Kq)

72 This is true, but it's not really their fault that large chains and newspapers won't play or run ads for NC-17 films.

So, they're pretty much irrelevant at this point is what you're saying.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 30, 2020 08:25 PM (ZxG8D)

73 It's supposed to be a 1976 Jaws ripoff with an 18' tall bear.

I read that as an 18" tall bear......

Posted by: JT at May 30, 2020 08:25 PM (arJlL)

74 I see PG and PG13 as just movies. R means it has F bombs or maybe boobs.

This is funny: female nudity is 'nudity'. Seeing a guy's peepee is 'graphic nudity'.

and this is really stupid: when they warn you a movie has smoking! (gasp!)

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 08:26 PM (iTXRQ)

75 The bear is played by... Joe Biden!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 30, 2020 08:26 PM (L2ZTs)

76

Would you bang Ruby Roundhouse's body if there was a guy inside it?

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at May 30, 2020 08:26 PM (w3OLr)

77 If there is one thing that Hollywood portrays very poorly it's sex

they aint got a clue

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:27 PM (JgrP5)

78 What was the last good long hot kiss in a movie? Kathleen Turner in Body Heat? Or was that The Postman Always Rings Twice?

Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 08:27 PM (7+QLY)

79 So bush = nc17?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 08:27 PM (WvQcX)

80 71 I want more fantasy sex in movies and realistic violence.

Watch porn and horror flicks. That should cover it.
Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:25 PM (zr5Kq)

You'd think so, but that's the problem.

The sex is porn is (usually) not fantasy. It's pretty realistic, pop shots and the like. It's not fantasy of guy meets hot girl and she likes him and they do it. That's pretty much a fantasy for 99% of the population.

And the violence is horror is likewise almost never realistic. It's heightened fantasy gore, torture porn is one extreme but very few horror shows treat the speed and finality of violence realistically.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:28 PM (d1uFV)

81 Runner--

It used to be far more "occasionally" than in the past year. Pre-covid there was guaranteed to be 3-4 special events per week at my local AMC.

1-2x month TCM movie (which were generally Hays-approved and would be rated "R" today, for smoking), weekly concert film, weekly weeaboo entry, an anniversary re-release (which have often been re-edited and NOT re-rated), occasional Christian-themed entry, etc.

These, besides not being rated, are often more expensive and not covered under the monthly-fee programs. So, I suspect there's some truth to this being the way things will ultimately go.

Oh, and there are the art houses where literally nothing is submitted to the MPAA.

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:28 PM (CcUfv)

82 Watched a movie on Netflix called the Green Inferno about SJW's that travel to save the rain forest and are instead captured by a primitive tribe of cannibals. It's just what you think. I don't like gore, but it served its purpose in this film.

For destruction of SJW's: Five thumbs up. Way up!

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:28 PM (VNfwt)

83 Young Kathleen turner.

Whew.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 08:28 PM (WvQcX)

84 This is funny: female nudity is 'nudity'. Seeing a guy's peepee is 'graphic nudity'.

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I'd really rather not see dongs, thanks anyway.

Maybe they could use more specific terms.

Posted by: Methos at May 30, 2020 08:28 PM (kOpft)

85 Blutarski, who to root for?? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 30, 2020 08:29 PM (L2ZTs)

86 The bear is played by... Joe Biden!

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Just wants to paw you and sniff your hair.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 30, 2020 08:29 PM (+y/Ru)

87

Rated D for Dong; W for Wiener; J for Junk.

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at May 30, 2020 08:29 PM (w3OLr)

88 It's supposed to be a 1976 Jaws ripoff with an 18' tall bear.
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Spoiler alert: It involves a shoulder-fired weapon...an it ain't an M1.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 30, 2020 08:30 PM (dP625)

89 When sexbots are a thing, the Kathleen Turner model will be a huge seller.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 30, 2020 08:30 PM (L2ZTs)

90 78 What was the last good long hot kiss in a movie? Kathleen Turner in Body Heat? Or was that The Postman Always Rings Twice?
Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 08:27 PM (7+QLY)

Body Heat counts.

Maybe....LA Confidential?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:30 PM (d1uFV)

91 Rated D for Dong; W for Wiener; J for Junk.
Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at May 30, 2020 08:29 PM (w3OLr)

C for Canine

pet thread, right

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:30 PM (JgrP5)

92 I prefer the implied sex in the old timey movies. The actors were great at making the audience believe they were all up in that 24-7 lol.

Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 08:31 PM (7+QLY)

93 weft-cut...yeah, not only irrelevant, but clearly on their way out 15 years ago.

As for nudity, anyone around in the '70s (and early '80s) remembers when pretty much ALL the movies had nudity, including PG (there was no PG-13), or at least a sex scene.

One thing that's definitely changed since is that nudity is way less likely to appear in even a PG-13 movie.

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:31 PM (CcUfv)

94 Everything went wrong with the Hayes Code of 1932, which didn't get enforced until 1934, which is why we still got the nekkid underwater swimming scene in Tarzan and his Mate.

It's de facto censorship and that's de facto wrong. Parents should read reviews, reviewers should point out what parents might have a problem with.

To make a subjective opinion law -- no one under 17 admitted without parent -- is authoritarian.

I took my twelve year old to the R-rated Kill Bill II because No. 1 Son is a comics geek and it was the best comic book movie ever.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:32 PM (gd9RK)

95 BurtTC--

It's been 15 years but at the time I had done some research and it seemed VERY clear to me that the director had used Teena as an avatar for some other gay person, say, herself, maybe.

I find that dishonest, especially for someone who was recently deceased, and who still had a grieving mother.

It was hugely dishonest when they did the same thing to Alan Turing in "The Imitation Game", which bore no resemblance to any historical references to Turing, but he's at least a historic character.
Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:23 PM (CcUfv)

There's a documentary out there, I think it's just called "The Brandon Teena Story," or maybe "The Teena Brandon Story. Either way, the film interviewed several people who were in and around the events.

It's been a long time since I watched either film, but I think the main takeaway for me was, they depicted Teena/Brandon way more sympathetically than the real person. He/she was a petty criminal, and perhaps way more sneaky about why and how she/he posed as a dude.

So anyway, I don't know that I'd call the film "dishonest." Just used some rather typical "artistic" license.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:32 PM (hku12)

96 I read that as an 18" tall bear......
Posted by: JT at May 30, 2020 08:25 PM (arJlL)
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Look, I just do what the band requests.

Posted by: Ian Faith at May 30, 2020 08:33 PM (4o2K3)

97 Rated D for Dong; W for Wiener; J for Junk.

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My tablet cleaning all frequently tells to clean my junk. That's just a little bit personal if you ask me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 30, 2020 08:33 PM (+y/Ru)

98 30
''Midnight Cowboy - X rated''

There should be a rating for depressing movies. That one would get top marks.

Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 08:06 PM (gLRfa)

Agreed. The music was good though.

Posted by: Javems at May 30, 2020 08:33 PM (ofIwF)

99 Blutarski -- "The Green Inferno" is the name of the fake film that comprises the second half of the notorious "Cannibal Holocaust".

"Cannibal Holocaust" is the first found footage film. The first half of the movie consists of a crew going to look for a bunch of young film-makers and actually finding their film. The second half is that footage, which shows them terrorizing a tribe of natives--and brutally, on-screen, real-life murdering a muskrat and a giant turtle--until they get their comeuppance (spoilers?) when the tribe strikes back.

Roth's inspiration for his "Green Inferno".

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:34 PM (CcUfv)

100 As for nudity, anyone around in the '70s (and early '80s) remembers when pretty much ALL the movies had nudity, including PG (there was no PG-13), or at least a sex scene.
Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:31 PM (CcUfv)

You can just go ahead and say "Bandersnatch", he's right here.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 30, 2020 08:34 PM (t+qrx)

101 90. I saw LA Confidential at the movies, can hardly remember it.

Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 08:34 PM (7+QLY)

102
It was hugely dishonest when they did the same thing to Alan Turing in "The Imitation Game", which bore no resemblance to any historical references to Turing, but he's at least a historic character.
Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:23 PM (CcUfv)

Lord, that was an awful film. Let me give you a synopsis.

GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY TURING WAS GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY YES HE WAS GAY GAY GAY also did some arithmetic that saved the world BUT HE WAS GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY TURING WAS GAY GAY GAY

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 30, 2020 08:35 PM (EGyGV)

103 I stopped by my theater today to pick up some snacks that were about to expire anyway, and heard about their tentative plans for reopening. First, they intend to fill the screens with old movies for the first 2-3 weeks they're allowed to open, then have Tenet arrive (with its reported 3 hr 15 min runtime) and have that play on half of the screens so that everyone has plenty of room to stretch out.
Also saw that Paramount is running an online tournament-bracket-style poll for which of their old movies should be brought back to the big screen. At the moment it looks like the finals will be Interstellar vs. Transformers.

Posted by: Dan K. at May 30, 2020 08:35 PM (jFfSK)

104

I think in the last 10, 15 years, movie festival have given many independent films momentum. At least in the US. Those that may not had it because of theme or graphic content. Who before heard of Cannes or Toronto ? So theater chains may be hard pressed to play the latest from Cannes. Didn't "Blue is the Warmest Color" play in theaters before it got rated ? or was never rated ?

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:35 PM (zr5Kq)

105 hogmartin

Bandersnatch has an encyclopedic knowledge that is impressive. As are the photos of his models.

Bandersnatch has a gift.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 30, 2020 08:36 PM (u82oZ)

106 Roth's inspiration for his "Green Inferno".
Posted by: moviegique

I think Roth was involved with this one. It was definitely Blum House.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:36 PM (VNfwt)

107 Looking at movies released by year, by mid-90's....kissing was pretty much dead.

I mentioned LA Confidential but that might be wrong and too late.

Mullholland Falls had some serious heat in it, but lesbian heat.

By the mid-90's the neutering was in full effect.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:36 PM (d1uFV)

108 I think the one documentary I saw that I came away with pretty much the opposite effect from what the filmmakers sought was Robert Reich's thing about wealth disparity.

I saw it because I sorta had to.

And the basic premise is, we're living in an age of exaggerated salaries for corporate exectives.

Which is not the right answer. The right answer is, stocks and executive salaries are in line with the actual health and performance of companies.

So it's not a matter of HOW MUCH an executive makes, that's really nobody's business, not least of all Robert Reich's. It's more a matter of how stocks are such a silly way to run an economy.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:37 PM (hku12)

109 Fuck movies. Time to mobilize.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 30, 2020 08:37 PM (CLteG)

110 > The actors were great at making the audience believe they were all up in that 24-7 lol.

Ending of North by Northwest.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 08:37 PM (hKLpI)

111 You can just go ahead and say "Bandersnatch", he's right here.

Darling Lilli. G rated. One frame of Julie Andrews' tit.

Good enough?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:38 PM (gd9RK)

112 Everything on Sven is public domaine.
You don't gotta wait for Saturday night.

Posted by: Pelosi's Filthy Fingers at May 30, 2020 08:38 PM (a1s18)

113 Oh, 1970 or 71

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:38 PM (gd9RK)

114 109 Fuck movies. Time to mobilize.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 30, 2020 08:37 PM (CLteG)

I can do both

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:38 PM (d1uFV)

115
Lord, that was an awful film. Let me give you a synopsis.

GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY TURING WAS GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY YES HE WAS GAY GAY GAY also did some arithmetic that saved the world BUT HE WAS GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY TURING WAS GAY GAY GAY
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 30, 2020 08:35 PM (EGyGV

Yup. But he was forced to undergo hormone injections by the government for being gay.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 08:38 PM (WvQcX)

116 There was a film starring Gene Hackman and Lee Marvin called Prime Cut. It was given an X rating for it's violence. Billy Graham famously went to see it.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:39 PM (VNfwt)

117 And the basic premise is, we're living in an age of exaggerated salaries for corporate exectives.

Which is not the right answer. The right answer is, stocks and executive salaries are in line with the actual health and performance of companies.

So it's not a matter of HOW MUCH an executive makes, that's really nobody's business, not least of all Robert Reich's. It's more a matter of how stocks are such a silly way to run an economy.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:37 PM (hku12)

Man, I can't f'n type. Are NOT in line with the health and performance of...

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:39 PM (hku12)

118
A rating is not censorship. When you rate a restaurant 2, 3 starts you are not censoring it. You are reviewing quality of offering.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:39 PM (zr5Kq)

119 Rodrigo Borgia

That train entering the tunnel was not very "implied".

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 30, 2020 08:39 PM (u82oZ)

120 . > The actors were great at making the audience believe they were all up in that 24-7 lol.

I still haven't decided if Bond banged Moneypenny in "Skyfall"

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 08:39 PM (iTXRQ)

121 Cars on fire in the nearby city, video show almost all white people doing the rioting....
Curfew at nine.....groups of white guys are hitting the suburbs now...Police are just watching...

Posted by: Colin at May 30, 2020 08:40 PM (KGj2Y)

122 There was a film starring Gene Hackman and Lee Marvin called Prime Cut.

Naked Sissy Spacek. Next?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:40 PM (gd9RK)

123 Lord, that was an awful film. Let me give you a synopsis.

GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY TURING WAS GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY YES HE WAS GAY GAY GAY also did some arithmetic that saved the world BUT HE WAS GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY TURING WAS GAY GAY GAY
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 30, 2020 08:35 PM (EGyGV)

He was gay?

That's it, I'm not taking his tests anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:41 PM (hku12)

124 This is funny: female nudity is 'nudity'. Seeing a guy's peepee is 'graphic nudity'.

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yeah, what's up with that ??

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:41 PM (zr5Kq)

125 >Naked Sissy Spacek. Next?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Big Bad Mama

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 08:41 PM (iTXRQ)

126 Wasn't Caligula x rated? Maybe I misremember.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 08:42 PM (WvQcX)

127 Next?

=

Klute.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:42 PM (zr5Kq)

128 Big Bad Mama

Naked Angie Dickinson.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (gd9RK)

129 Report: Former Gen. Stanley McChrystal helping Dems combat Republicans online
WaPo: McChrystal advising group "planning to deploy technology originally developed to counter Islamic State propaganda in service of a domestic political goal - to combat online efforts to promote President Donald Trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic"

Yeah. Let's call up "the troops".

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (JFe9H)

130 Iconic old-timey implied sex scene: Rhett Butler carries his wife Scarlett up the curved staircase, Fade scene. Next morning Scarlett wakes up all perky and whistling a happy tune.

Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (7+QLY)

131 dammit wrong thread , sorry

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (JFe9H)

132 Caliigula has graphic sex and violence.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (zr5Kq)

133 All pirated movies get an Arrrrr rating.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (e1mEI)

134 Hmm. Katie Sagal from Married With Children plays a biker momma in Sons of Anarchy.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (Uu+Jp)

135 Klute.

Naked Jane Fonda.

Leave aside the VC, she looked good nekkid.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (gd9RK)

136 I have never seen Jaws nor Jaws 2

My neighbors were in Jaws 2

Marc and April Gilpin

Their sister is Peri Gilpin

They live about a block from me in Forest Hills, Dallas

Great family

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (JgrP5)

137 > Naked Sissy Spacek.

For some reason I always get her confused with Shelley Duvall.

Women who are in the "weird-looking, but yet oddly bangable" area.

Another one: young Sandra Bernhard (and yeah, I know she's a lesbian... she still had the DSL going on).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (hKLpI)

138 reply re The Imitation Game at 102 --

Yeah, but you gotta know the history. Alan Turing WAS prosecuted for gayness after the war in the UK, despite his brilliant help in said WWII. And committed suicide after he was exposed.

I think that was fucking relevant. Maybe even *central*.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (Z4rgH)

139 Naked Sissy Spacek. Next?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Do Logan's Run.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (VNfwt)

140 133 All pirated movies get an Arrrrr rating.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (e1mEI

With all that booty, can you blame them?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (WvQcX)

141 Cars on fire in the nearby city, video show almost all white people doing the rioting....
Curfew at nine.....groups of white guys are hitting the suburbs now...Police are just watching...
Posted by: Colin

Coming it at a thousand millions . . .

Sally Kohn@sallykohn
Replying to @sallykohn
Also, and I don't feel like this should need to be pointed out, property is insured and can be replaced. Lives cannot. Check your priorities, America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (+y/Ru)

142 > Leave aside the VC, she looked good nekkid.

Barbarella. Fur-lined spaceship.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (hKLpI)

143
Hmm. Katie Sagal from Married With Children plays a biker momma in Sons of Anarchy.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (Uu+Jp)

Also, her daddy was the director of The Omega Man.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 30, 2020 08:45 PM (EGyGV)

144 Do Logan's Run.

Jenny Agutter and hints of Farrah Fawcett.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:45 PM (gd9RK)

145 126 Wasn't Caligula x rated? Maybe I misremember.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 08:42 PM (WvQcX)

There's two cuts. The Italian cut, directed by Tinto Brass is a hard R. Then after Tinto was done, Bob Guccione went back and put in some hard core and lesbian scenes behind the director's back. That got it the X rating.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:45 PM (d1uFV)

146
Do Logan's Run.

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Flashdance.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:45 PM (zr5Kq)

147 So far every scene in SoA is dimly lit.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 30, 2020 08:45 PM (Uu+Jp)

148 Sally Kohn@sallykohn
Replying to @sallykohn
Also, and I don't feel like this should need to be pointed out, property is insured and can be replaced. Lives cannot. Check your priorities, America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (+y/Ru

Hopefully someone offered to burn her house down.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 08:46 PM (WvQcX)

149 Flashdance.

Jennifer Beals did not show tit. Minor character did.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:46 PM (gd9RK)

150 Watch the Netflix show Space Force. Better than The Office. Full of heart and satire. And in this day and age...we all need to ease back, relax, calm down or walk blinded into the abyss.

Posted by: Greg Burns at May 30, 2020 08:46 PM (cCSj0)

151 There's two cuts. The Italian cut, directed by Tinto Brass is a hard R. Then after Tinto was done, Bob Guccione went back and put in some hard core and lesbian scenes behind the director's back. That got it the X rating.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:45 PM (d1uFV)
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John Gielgud found it amusing to tell people that he'd been in a porno flick.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 30, 2020 08:46 PM (4o2K3)

152 I have never seen Jaws nor Jaws 2

My neighbors were in Jaws 2

Marc and April Gilpin

Their sister is Peri Gilpin

They live about a block from me in Forest Hills, Dallas

Great family
Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:43 PM (JgrP5)

I don't believe Jaws is a great movie. It's a pretty good movie, but it's not great.

What is though, is a cultural phenomenon that has several memorable scenes, and frankly at this point if you haven't seen the movie, but know the basic story and have some knowledge of the scenes, I'd suggest you skip it.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:47 PM (hku12)

153 Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

Check your policies. Rioting, insurrections, wars declared or undeclared, and nuclear explosions, even if accidental, are all not covered by insurance.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 30, 2020 08:47 PM (u82oZ)

154 Logan's Run.

Logan's Run was shot at the Apparel Mart in Dallas

BS movie

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:47 PM (JgrP5)

155 What was going on with Dorothy Malone and Bogart in that bookstore?My imagination fills that better than blatant sexy time.

Posted by: Pelosi's Filthy Fingers at May 30, 2020 08:47 PM (a1s18)

156 55 Can a movie be distributed and played in major theaters without a rating ? Or this is what "not yet rated" for ?
Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 08:16 PM (zr5Kq)

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Don't know if they can play, but I think there is a difference between "not yet rated" and "unrated".

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 30, 2020 08:48 PM (CAJOC)

157 148 Sally Kohn@sallykohn
Replying to @sallykohn
Also, and I don't feel like this should need to be pointed out, property is insured and can be replaced. Lives cannot. Check your priorities, America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (+y/Ru

Hopefully someone offered to burn her house down.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 08:46 PM (WvQcX)

People who burn down buildings can be replaced.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:49 PM (d1uFV)

158 Do Logan's Run.

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Jenny Agutter and hints of Farrah Fawcett.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:45 PM (gd9RK)

Ok, I think I get the gist of what's going on here.

So...

Dressed To Kill... feel free to name the person, but my question is... body double or no?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:49 PM (hku12)

159 The gov in MN is finally calling it "Urban Warfare". Admitting it's mostly out of state actors. Highways are closed.

Posted by: johnd01 at May 30, 2020 08:49 PM (TXvM3)

160 What is though, is a cultural phenomenon that has several memorable scenes, and frankly at this point if you haven't seen the movie, but know the basic story and have some knowledge of the scenes, I'd suggest you skip it.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:47 PM (hku12)

Guess I shoulda saw it cause my neighbors were in it, although I think they got eaten by the shark

Never had the guts to tell Peri that I never saw Fraiser

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:49 PM (JgrP5)

161 Sexcuse me, but what good is all the violence in the world unless it is tempered with limitless sex?
Bring out the limitless sex-object and allow me, Sexecutioner, genius, to sexplain the seriousness of this subject, now if you all will attend to my words you will see....

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 30, 2020 08:49 PM (NWiLs)

162 GnuBreed--

>>And committed suicide after he was exposed.

I'm not sure that's true.

And for me, that's not the point. His actual character wasn't broody Brandenberg Chamberpot. He was a very popular fellow, life of the party type, from everything I've read.

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:50 PM (CcUfv)

163 There's nudity in 'Stripped to Kill'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:50 PM (d1uFV)

164 Awfully close to the looting, maybe I'd better sleep with my cloths on and I have loaded my shotgun.

Posted by: Colin at May 30, 2020 08:50 PM (KGj2Y)

165
I don't believe Jaws is a great movie. It's a pretty good movie, but it's not great.

What is though, is a cultural phenomenon that has several memorable scenes, and frankly at this point if you haven't seen the movie, but know the basic story and have some knowledge of the scenes, I'd suggest you skip it.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:47 PM (hku12)

It's two movies in one. A creepy horror film full of dread at the beginning, and once Brody walks onto the deck of the Orca, it turns into a totally bitchin' adventure film.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 30, 2020 08:50 PM (EGyGV)

166 R rated sex is so predictable. Flims and life.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 30, 2020 08:50 PM (RWBmf)

167 Or this is what "not yet rated" for ?

Not yet rated is usually used in trailers to show that they haven't figured out just how much they have to cave to the anonymous autocrats at the MPAA to get a rating which will let them make money.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:50 PM (gd9RK)

168 Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:45 PM (gd9RK)

Ok, I think I get the gist of what's going on here.

So...

Dressed To Kill... feel free to name the person, but my question is... body double or no?
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:49 PM (hku12)

I mean the first incident. The second one appears to be the real deal (i.e. not a body double). Feel free to name her as well, as I'm sure you will.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:50 PM (hku12)

169 Dressed To Kill... feel free to name the person, but my question is... body double or no?

Angie Dickinson's body double. Head shot of a fortysomething, body shot of a twenty year old.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:51 PM (gd9RK)

170 Your father became a man. Men take care of business.
Line from Sons of Anarchy.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 30, 2020 08:51 PM (Uu+Jp)

171 155 What was going on with Dorothy Malone and Bogart in that bookstore?My imagination fills that better than blatant sexy time.
Posted by: Pelosi's Filthy Fingers at May 30, 2020 08:47 PM (a1s1

Another Dallas person , Dorothy Malone

she used to come in my shop some

she was always really nice

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:52 PM (JgrP5)

172 I gotta say...I've always found Hillary Swank and Ruby Rose bangable.

But then, I've dated more than a few lesbians.

And props to Swank, she actually can act. Puts a lot of effort into her work.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:52 PM (d1uFV)

173 The gov in MN is finally calling it "Urban Warfare". Admitting it's mostly out of state actors. Highways are closed.
Posted by: johnd01

Maybe finally admitting this is not a genuine Black phenomena but is an Antifa op, we can start using police power to push back?

Now. Bandersnatch. Do Excalibur!

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:52 PM (VNfwt)

174 Bandersnatch -- Wait, wasn't the "minor character" who stripped in "Flashdance" Irene Cara? Oh, crap, that was "Fame". NVM.

"Dressed To Kill" -- had a body double for Angie Dickinson, of course. She was...50-something? But I think they lied about it. Fun fact, that's De Palma who Bidens her.

And then there's "Body Double" where Melanie Griffith plays a porn star who is a body double, but in real life, she had a body double who was a porn star. (One of the "Amber"s, I think.)

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:53 PM (CcUfv)

175 .Dressed To Kill... feel free to name the person, but my question is... body double or no?
Posted by: BurtTC

body double
if you don't see the actor's face and the naughty bits in the same shot (CGI the exception, I guess) then body double

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 08:53 PM (iTXRQ)

176 This was a fascinating thread, Moviegique!

Wasn't the ratings system a way for adult fare (themes, not just sex and violence) to make it into theaters? I don't know why it always gets a bad rap.

My Mom jokes that her one and only "X" film, "Midnight Cowboy", was a PG about a year later. That was a stupid rating -- X for a story about homosexual prostitution. It wasn't particularly graphic.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 08:53 PM (Dc2NZ)

177 What is though, is a cultural phenomenon that has several memorable scenes, and frankly at this point if you haven't seen the movie, but know the basic story and have some knowledge of the scenes, I'd suggest you skip it.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:47 PM (hku12)

Guess I shoulda saw it cause my neighbors were in it, although I think they got eaten by the shark

Never had the guts to tell Peri that I never saw Fraiser
Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:49 PM (JgrP5)

Don't tell her I think she's kinda mannish.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:53 PM (hku12)

178 But then, I've dated more than a few lesbians.

And props to Swank, she actually can act. Puts a lot of effort into her work.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:52 PM (d1uFV)

were they Lesbos before you dated them ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:54 PM (JgrP5)

179 I have to say before I get into specifics, that while I went into the film thinking ratings boards and censorship were generally stupid, I actually came out with a bit more respect for the ratings board, especially when presented with the film's idea of alternatives. This is probably a bad sign...
_______

No, it's a very good sign. It means you're still thinking, and not just being reflexive.

The best way to approach, well, anything, is to
1. Question the conventional wisdom, and
2. Ask about persuasive cases "What's wrong with this?" *
3. Yes, notice when you're being manipulated.

My own take on this is, and long has been, is that local standards should apply. Yes, the internet makes it more complicated, but not wholly impossible.

At a minimum, it limits the scope of rotten decisions. And rotten decisions are going to be the norm, all over, so long as people are making them. But at the local level you can

a. Fine tune them so that dominant values are actually represented so they are NOT wholly arbitrary in context.

b. Actually modify them to remove the worst problems, not stopped by some national or state or industry or corporate bureaucrats.

Imperfect? Sure. But it's the best I can see. And I cannot say how often I've been accused of being a Mrs Grundy for saying this about towns I've never been to.

*Unless my arm is bad, tomorrow you're going to get a lot from me about Andrew Gordon's book, Rules of the Game, about the Battle of Jutland. And, oddly enough for a movie thread, that is also the (English) title of the greatest movie I've ever seen.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 30, 2020 08:54 PM (ZbwAu)

180
What was going on with Dorothy Malone and Bogart in that bookstore?My imagination fills that better than blatant sexy time.
Posted by: Pelosi's Filthy Fingers at May 30, 2020 08:47 PM (a1s1

I imagine Bogey gave Dorothy Malone's prehensile tongue a serious workout...

https://tinyurl.com/yczlngmg

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 30, 2020 08:54 PM (EGyGV)

181 Watch out for the Nighr Bogies.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 30, 2020 08:54 PM (ICrEo)

182 Alright Bandersnatch- lets see what you got

"Eye Of The Needle"

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 08:55 PM (iTXRQ)

183 Unless my arm is bad, tomorrow you're going to get a lot from me about Andrew Gordon's book, Rules of the Game, about the Battle of Jutland.
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Awesome! I'll be there.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 30, 2020 08:55 PM (4o2K3)

184 "Excalibur" had:

For The Rape of Igraine...that's John Boorman's daughter.

Helen Mirren does naked Morgana.

Then there's Lance & Guinnie...

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:55 PM (CcUfv)

185 150 Watch the Netflix show Space Force. Better than The Office. Full of heart and satire. And in this day and age...we all need to ease back, relax, calm down or walk blinded into the abyss.
Posted by: Greg Burns at May 30, 2020 08:46 PM (cCSj0)

Too late. Time to pick a side.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at May 30, 2020 08:55 PM (CLteG)

186 It's weird how older movies showed more nudity than violence

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 30, 2020 08:55 PM (aO8Gd)

187 Seka was in Body Double

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:55 PM (d1uFV)

188 I honestly thought that Christopher Dodd was dead.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 08:56 PM (yQpMk)

189 "Eye Of The Needle"

I lay down my arms. I am unfamiliar with this. Story?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:56 PM (gd9RK)

190 Eeyore

Looking forward to your book report. You are a well-grounded Navalist.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 30, 2020 08:56 PM (u82oZ)

191 I hope someone tweeted Sally Kohn the clip of the AA man who had sunk life savings into a sports bar but suspended it due to Plandemic 'cause he COULDN'T OPEN FOR BUSINESS. Now he has no business, are you happy now you Caucasian Oppressor POS Sally Kohn?

Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 08:56 PM (7+QLY)

192 149 Flashdance.

Jennifer Beals did not show tit. Minor character did.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:46 PM (gd9RK)

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'Course, nowadays, there is full frontal and simulated sex in just about every Amazon Original movie/tv show.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at May 30, 2020 08:56 PM (CAJOC)

193 And props to Swank, she actually can act. Puts a lot of effort into her work.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:52 PM (d1uFV)

She had a rather small part in Logan Lucky, but I thought she looked awfully good.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:56 PM (hku12)

194 The gov in MN is finally calling it "Urban Warfare". Admitting it's mostly out of state actors. Highways are closed.

Posted by: johnd01 at May 30, 2020 08:49 PM (TXvM3)

Is he going to do anything besides hide all night with Mayor Justin Trudeau?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 08:56 PM (Icz4p)

195 For The Rape of Igraine...that's John Boorman's daughter.

Helen Mirren does naked Morgana.

Then there's Lance & Guinnie...
Posted by: moviegique

I yield to you, sir!

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:56 PM (VNfwt)

196 Don't tell her I think she's kinda mannish.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:53 PM (hku12)

she's actually really nice and when she was young, we had a lot of fun together

went to a lot of drive ins and drank a lot of beer

just friends, she's too young for me

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:56 PM (JgrP5)

197 "Eye Of The Needle"

I lay down my arms. I am unfamiliar with this. Story?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 08:56 PM (gd9RK)
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Nazi spy seduces lonely widow on remote island (Hebrides? Shetlands?)

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 30, 2020 08:57 PM (4o2K3)

198 Ha..."Eye of the Needle" had naked Kate Nelligan.

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:57 PM (CcUfv)

199 Eye Of The Needle"
I lay down my arms. I am unfamiliar with this. Story?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Kate Milligan?

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:57 PM (VNfwt)

200 > I gotta say...I've always found Hillary Swank

Likewise. She was super cute when she was young.

> and Ruby Rose

Not for me. Mannish with ugly tats.

If you look that mannish to begin with, you'd best make yourself up to be as feminine as possible. Prison tats on your neck don't really help with that.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 08:57 PM (hKLpI)

201 178 But then, I've dated more than a few lesbians.

And props to Swank, she actually can act. Puts a lot of effort into her work.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:52 PM (d1uFV)

were they Lesbos before you dated them ?
Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 08:54 PM (JgrP5)

One yes. Two, no.

Only one of them did I know they were down on the muffin when I asked them out. In my defense, she was hot.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:57 PM (d1uFV)

202 141 Anon

Better up those stats:

Civil unrest/riot is specifically excluded from most if not all insurance policies.

Posted by: ibguy at May 30, 2020 08:58 PM (EHVbt)

203 >I lay down my arms. I am unfamiliar with this. Story?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Donald Sutherland Kate Nelligan
He's a Nazi spy in WW2 England

okay, maybe obscure

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 08:58 PM (iTXRQ)

204 Ha..."Eye of the Needle" had naked Kate Nelligan.
Posted by: moviegique

Oh, yeah. I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 08:59 PM (VNfwt)

205 Also, and I don't feel like this should need to be pointed out, property
is insured and can be replaced. Lives cannot. Check your priorities,
America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (+y/Ru

Another comfortable-living spoiled asshole that is thoroughly ignorant of what happens to lives when houses and businesses are lost.

Also I just learned that fires don't kill.

Posted by: ... at May 30, 2020 08:59 PM (Z8csD)

206 Eric --

Yes, the argument went that not EVERYTHING should be for a "General Audience" so we'll rate things.

But the porno guys jumped on the "X" rating because the MPAA had not trademarked any of this stuff. (I mean, why would you, right?) That's why, 2 decades later, they switched to NC-17.

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:59 PM (CcUfv)

207 "Dressed To Kill" -- had a body double for Angie Dickinson, of course. She was...50-something? But I think they lied about it. Fun fact, that's De Palma who Bidens her.

And then there's "Body Double" where Melanie Griffith plays a porn star who is a body double, but in real life, she had a body double who was a porn star. (One of the "Amber"s, I think.)
Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 08:53 PM (CcUfv)

Been a while since I've seen either film, but those little tidbits (or is that bidtits?) of info are quite interesting!

Gotta admit, I'm disappointed to hear that's not Angie. One of those "older women" I think I would... even now.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:59 PM (hku12)

208 >Only one of them did I know they were down on the muffin when I asked them out. In my defense, she was hot.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

so she could hit from both sides of the plate then

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 08:59 PM (iTXRQ)

209 okay, maybe obscure

Obscure is good. I need to stay on my game.

For Donald Sutherland I give you the reverse challenge: Don't Look Now.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 09:00 PM (gd9RK)

210 I'll ask the experts - is there a difference of degree, or merely marketing, between X and XXX?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:00 PM (Dc2NZ)

211 Gotta admit, I'm disappointed to hear that's not Angie. One of those "older women" I think I would... even now.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 08:59 PM (hku12)
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She was pretty darn cute in "Rio Bravo".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 30, 2020 09:01 PM (4o2K3)

212 Mullholland Falls had some serious heat in it, but lesbian heat.

By the mid-90's the neutering was in full effect.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:36 PM (d1uFV)

You are mistaken. Mulholland Drive is the movie you are thinking of with the lesbians (and a plot line that still has me scratching my head to this day).

Mulholland Falls was a 50's noir murder mystery with Nick Nolte and Chaz Palmintieri as L.A. Detectives which, briefly, featured a naked Jennifer Connelly in the opening credits. No lesbians.

Posted by: HTL at May 30, 2020 09:01 PM (zJHpY)

213
There was a film starring Gene Hackman and Lee Marvin called Prime Cut.

With car eating farm machinery.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 30, 2020 09:01 PM (aKsyK)

214 Yeah, early X-rated movies are weirdly inconsistent.

Like the Mick Jagger movie, "Performance".

Just an awful movie. But deserving of an X"?

Nope.

Unless "X" stands for boredom.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 30, 2020 09:01 PM (GIeYS)

215 You are mistaken. Mulholland Drive is the movie you are thinking of with the lesbians (and a plot line that still has me scratching my head to this day).

It's a David Lynch film. You'll never figure it out.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (NWiLs)

216
@Banderstnatch

Any Bond

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (zr5Kq)

217 Nancy Allen didn't have a body double.

And it was magnificent.

Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (Qf83p)

218 Paramount is running an online
tournament-bracket-style poll for which of their old movies should be
brought back to the big screen. At the moment it looks like the finals
will be Interstellar vs. Transformers.

Posted by: Dan K. at May 30, 2020 08:35 PM (jFfSK)
---Upvote for Interstellar. I saw it on IMAX and it was awesome.

Posted by: WillowViney at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (gYAkw)

219 One yes. Two, no.

Only one of them did I know they were down on the muffin when I asked them out. In my defense, she was hot.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 30, 2020 08:57 PM (d1uFV)

you were a busy beaver

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (JgrP5)

220 Eeyore--

There did used to be regional systems for ratings, with everybody putting in their two cents. The Catholic Decency League had a lot of pull, but ultimately there wasn't a big nationalized...Thing.

Those Big National Things always seem to fail, frankly, and end up consolidating power in the hands of the already powerful. (See the Comic Book Code for another example.)

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (CcUfv)

221 You are mistaken. Mulholland Drive is the movie you are thinking of with the lesbians (and a plot line that still has me scratching my head to this day).

Mulholland Falls was a 50's noir murder mystery with Nick Nolte and Chaz Palmintieri as L.A. Detectives which, briefly, featured a naked Jennifer Connelly in the opening credits. No lesbians.
Posted by: HTL at May 30, 2020 09:01 PM (zJHpY

Correct, but easy mistake.

What was the Connelly movie with Don Johnson where she spent the movie topless?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (WvQcX)

222 re: 191 - he suspended insurance. But Salty said insurance doesn't cover riot damage?

Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 09:03 PM (7+QLY)

223 Nancy Allen didn't have a body double.

And it was magnificent.
Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (Qf83p)

Give that man a cigar!

I'm not telling you what to DO with the cigar, but......

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 09:03 PM (hku12)

224 Mulholland Drive was an even weirder version of twin peaks.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:04 PM (WvQcX)

225 Both the original "Straw Dogs" and "A Clockwork Orange" were X-rated, mostly for violence,

which I can kinda understand for the place and time.

But, yeah, seen today, they look rather tame.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 30, 2020 09:04 PM (GIeYS)

226 I meant @ Bandersnatch, my appologies

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:04 PM (zr5Kq)

227 I need to stop typing

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:04 PM (zr5Kq)

228 Posted by: HTL at May 30, 2020 09:01 PM (zJHpY

Correct, but easy mistake.

What was the Connelly movie with Don Johnson where she spent the movie topless?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (WvQcX)

Jennifer Connolly spent about a decade and a half topless.

With good reason.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 09:05 PM (hku12)

229 I don't get why they remake movies

what's the point in making something worse than the original

the Omen and Manchurian Candidate come to mind

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 09:05 PM (JgrP5)

230 Any Bond

Almost none, not counting the opening credits. I think there was a flash from Maryam D'Abo in the Timothy Dalton one with the violas. And Grace Jones might have slipped a little in the Roger Moore one.

No, the Bond series is disappointingly prudish.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 09:05 PM (gd9RK)

231 She was pretty darn cute in "Rio Bravo"

So was Ricky and Dino.

Posted by: Pelosi's Filthy Fingers at May 30, 2020 09:05 PM (a1s18)

232 What was the Connelly movie with Don Johnson where she spent the movie topless?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (WvQcX)
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The Hot Spot?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:05 PM (Dc2NZ)

233 I'll ask the experts - is there a difference of degree, or merely marketing, between X and XXX?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:00 PM (Dc2NZ)

Now I'm curious too. I always thought that 'X' was an actual rating and anything beyond that was just marketing.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 30, 2020 09:05 PM (t+qrx)

234 If you are an independent film maker - particularly a right wing independent film maker - it does not matter if your film is rated or not, it won't be shown in a movie theater unless you have the money to rent the theater in order to show it.

That's reality.

Posted by: An Observation at May 30, 2020 09:05 PM (g76BA)

235 Sally Kohn@sallykohn

Replying to @sallykohn

Also, and I don't feel like this should need to be pointed out,
property is insured and can be replaced. Lives cannot. Check your
priorities, America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (+y/Ru)

If people do not want to get killed taking other people's property, they need to stop taking other people's property.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 30, 2020 09:05 PM (nAiE/)

236 232 What was the Connelly movie with Don Johnson where she spent the movie topless?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (WvQcX)
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The Hot Spot?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:05 PM (Dc2NZ

Yes! That's it. Thank you

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:06 PM (WvQcX)

237 Eris--

The "X" vs "XXX" thing was just classic one-upmanship. I think it literally went:

"We're X rated!" (They weren't.)
"Oh, yeah, our movie's so hot it's DOUBLE X-Rated!"
(smug guy in the corner)
"Hey, boys, look at this: XXX!"

If my experience with "unrated" horror from the time period is any indicator, the more hyped the "rating", the less actual material worthy of it.

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 09:06 PM (CcUfv)

238 Any Bond

Almost none, not counting the opening credits. I think there was a flash from Maryam D'Abo in the Timothy Dalton one with the violas. And Grace Jones might have slipped a little in the Roger Moore one.

No, the Bond series is disappointingly prudish.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 09:05 PM (gd9RK)
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Lana Wood was the nakedest, I think.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 30, 2020 09:06 PM (4o2K3)

239 126 Wasn't Caligula x rated? Maybe I misremember.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 08:42 PM (WvQcX)

It was. It was also one of the most disgusting movies I've ever seen.

"Performance" (with Mick Jagger and Anita Pallenberg) was also rated X, but it was just weird and goofy and disjointed. A very '60's flick. I'm sure everyone on the set was high all the time, including the director and camera men.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V at May 30, 2020 09:06 PM (HabA/)

240 You are mistaken. Mulholland Drive is the movie you are thinking of with the lesbians (and a plot line that still has me scratching my head to this day).

It's a David Lynch film. You'll never figure it out.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 30, 2020 09:02 PM (NWiLs)

You do have to sorta cross your eyes, but if you do it right, it does more or less make sense.

Now, Inland Empire, I think Lynch was just like "alright you f'ers, try to figure THIS one out."

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 09:07 PM (hku12)

241 Yes, with Bond it innuendo and suggestion than full nudity. Though there is a bit of violence - torture, killing. They may want to rethink.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:07 PM (zr5Kq)

242 Fayetteville, NC PD are a bunch of cowards who are doing absolutely nothing about the riot downtown.

Posted by: George Kaplan at May 30, 2020 09:07 PM (MX4n0)

243 Nike released a simple but powerful ad Friday evening following the police-involved death of George Floyd in Minneapolis earlier this week.
The
footwear company posted a minute-long ad with white text over a black
screen on its Instagram urging people not to "turn your back on racism"
and instead "be part of the change."
"For once, Don't Do It," the text read, playing on Nike's popular slogan.

Just die Nike

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:07 PM (Icz4p)

244 They've dropped off the bricks in Toledo. Suddenly piles of bricks spaced throughout the protest zone.

Posted by: Menack at May 30, 2020 09:08 PM (buTO7)

245 Lynch does nothing for me.

All hype.

Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 09:08 PM (Qf83p)

246 It's supposed to be a 1976 Jaws ripoff with an 18' tall bear.
Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 30, 2020 08:12 PM (VcFUs)

Remember every rotary pilot carries a bazooka on their Mac Don 500.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 30, 2020 09:08 PM (DjiZK)

247 > Nike released a simple but powerful ad Friday evening

And their store on Michigan Avenue in Chicago was looted bare today.

So, that was kind of a waste, wasn't it?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (hKLpI)

248 >>> 150 Watch the Netflix show Space Force. Better than The Office. Full of heart and satire. And in this day and age...we all need to ease back, relax, calm down or walk blinded into the abyss.
Posted by: Greg Burns at May 30, 2020 08:46 PM

That's the show created to ridicule and insult Trump and USSF.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (l6b3d)

249 I love David Lynch, he's like strangely All-American weird.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (Dc2NZ)

250 245 Lynch does nothing for me.

All hype.
Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 09:08 PM (Qf83p)

did he direct "Rope" ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (JgrP5)

251 >Don't Look Now.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

heard of it but never seen it
Sutherland has been in so many genres- comedy horror drama crime

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (iTXRQ)

252 did he direct "Rope" ?
Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (JgrP5)
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Hitchcock.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 30, 2020 09:10 PM (4o2K3)

253 Not nipple-related (sorry, Bander), but I saw "The Sundowners" this evening on TCM. What a terrific film!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:10 PM (Dc2NZ)

254 I love David Lynch, he's like strangely All-American weird.

alex's theory is that he thinks he's telling a straightforward narrative.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 09:10 PM (gd9RK)

255 I'll ask the experts - is there a difference of degree, or merely marketing, between X and XXX?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:00 PM (Dc2NZ)

XXX was a marketing ploy by the porn industry IIRC

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 09:10 PM (2DOZq)

256 Ding! Dinner's up. Catch you later.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 30, 2020 09:10 PM (4o2K3)

257 Lynch can definitely create "atmosphere".

I'll give him that much.

Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 09:10 PM (Qf83p)

258 Sally Kohn@sallykohn

Replying to @sallykohn

Also, and I don't feel like this should need to be pointed out,
property is insured and can be replaced. Lives cannot. Check your
priorities, America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (+y/Ru)

Insurance companies can't and don't cover everything, not all property destruction is covered and somethings are irreplaceable.
When someone destroys Sally MilliKohns home and possessions lets all see how cavalier she is about that.

Posted by: LASue at May 30, 2020 09:10 PM (Ed8Zd)

259 And their store on Michigan Avenue in Chicago was looted bare today.

So, that was kind of a waste, wasn't it?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (hKLpI)

But it wasn't racist looting so that's okay

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:10 PM (Icz4p)

260 253 Eris

That the one starring Joe Biden?

Posted by: ibguy at May 30, 2020 09:11 PM (EHVbt)

261 Basic Instinct

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:11 PM (zr5Kq)

262 Don't Look Now.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

heard of it but never seen it
Sutherland has been in so many genres- comedy horror drama crime
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (iTXRQ)

I have it downstairs, haven't watched it yet. And any time someone talks about it I have to keep from hearing spoilers.

So time for me to go. Not watching that one tonight.

Time to watch Logan. Finally.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 09:11 PM (hku12)

263 Colin, do you have any neighbors of like mind?

Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 09:11 PM (7+QLY)

264 > what's the point in making something worse than the original

Gene Siskel once said that remaking good movies was really stupid.

He thought that if you HAD to do a remake, you should pick a movie with a good basic idea but poor execution and redo it to be a good movie.

I can't remember the examples he gave.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:11 PM (hKLpI)

265 If Trump is in the WH, I'd personally think he should be flown to Camp David now.

Posted by: Colin at May 30, 2020 09:11 PM (KGj2Y)

266 OK, been watching the riot stuff.

I think I need some JOHN WAYNE CAVALRY movies.!

Fort Apache, to start.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 30, 2020 09:11 PM (NgKpN)

267 150 Watch the Netflix show Space Force. Better than The Office. Full of heart and satire. And in this day and age...we all need to ease back, relax, calm down or walk blinded into the abyss.
Posted by: Greg Burns at May 30, 2020 08:46 PM
--
It's received nothing but Bronx cheers from critics, even liberal ones.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:11 PM (Dc2NZ)

268 Lynch does nothing for me.
All hype.
Posted by: eleven

He had a film, I think it was the Straight Story that was rated G. As uplifting and watchable as anything. It starred the old Richard Farnsworth and he was just awesome.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 09:12 PM (VNfwt)

269 Watch the Netflix show Space Force. Better than The Office. Full of heart and satire. And in this day and age...we all need to ease back, relax, calm down or walk blinded into the abyss.
Posted by: Greg Burns at May 30, 2020 08:46 PM

That's the show created to ridicule and insult Trump and USSF.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (l6b3d)

Yeah, it's an attempt to destroy support for Trump's Space Force before it can even get going.

Like the Left tried with "RayGun's Star Wars".

Who's laughing now, a-holes?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 30, 2020 09:12 PM (GIeYS)

270 Nike released a simple but powerful ad Friday evening

And their store on Michigan Avenue in Chicago was looted bare today.

So, that was kind of a waste, wasn't it?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (hKLpI)

The sheer moral power of Colin Kapernick didn't repel the rioters? Shocking.

Posted by: LASue at May 30, 2020 09:12 PM (Ed8Zd)

271 If the studios have been colluding with any government, it's likely China and/or the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Where are my ping pong balls? at May 30, 2020 09:12 PM (m3XFr)

272 Sutherland has been in so many genres- comedy horror drama crime

Julie Christie. The regular sex is debatable but the oral sex is not open to interpetation.

*picks up crown. dusts it off*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 09:12 PM (gd9RK)

273 Sons of Anarchy is on Netflix. I think I'll watch an episode.

It's good, but I thought it ended poorly, even if they foreshadowed it the whole run.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:12 PM (yQpMk)

274 Thanks for the critique, moviegique. I've always been curious about TFINYR.

Praying for everyone tonight, especially Wyatt Earp.

Oh, and since this is the movie thread, I'd like to say throw out there that John Cusack is an utter cvnt, and I don't use that word lightly. A career in the shitter is the least worst thing that could happen to you, you balding lunatic commie assfuck.

Posted by: Gem at May 30, 2020 09:13 PM (kIHih)

275 OK, been watching the riot stuff.

I think I need some JOHN WAYNE CAVALRY movies.!

Fort Apache, to start.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 30, 2020 09:11 PM (NgKpN)

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is on now.

Posted by: LASue at May 30, 2020 09:13 PM (Ed8Zd)

276 I think the last movie I saw in theatre was the Sandra bullock space movie.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:13 PM (WvQcX)

277 Colin, do you have any neighbors of like mind?

Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 09:11 PM (7+QLY)

I really don't know. The family on my left is black and on my right they are from Turkey...The family from Turkey are probably ready.

Posted by: Colin at May 30, 2020 09:13 PM (KGj2Y)

278 I liked Blue Velvet.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 09:13 PM (2DOZq)

279 Which one was Sutherland and Christie ?

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:13 PM (zr5Kq)

280 re Moviegique's comment about Turing's suicide, via wiki:

Turing died in 1954, 16 days before his 42nd birthday, from cyanide poisoning. An inquest determined his death as a suicide, but it has been noted that the known evidence is also consistent with accidental poisoning.

In 2009, following an Internet campaign, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown made an official public apology on behalf of the British government for "the appalling way he was treated". Queen Elizabeth II granted Turing a posthumous pardon in 2013. The "Alan Turing law" is now an informal term for a 2017 law in the United Kingdom that retroactively pardoned men cautioned or convicted under historical legislation that outlawed homosexual acts.[16]

So he "accidentally" took cyanide? A very painful death? Okay, believe what you want.

Occam's Razor suggests he killed himself.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 30, 2020 09:13 PM (Z4rgH)

281 The sheer moral power of Colin Kapernick didn't repel the rioters? Shocking.

The rioters don't want him on their team either.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:14 PM (yQpMk)

282 Which one was Sutherland and Christie ?

Don't Look Now

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 09:14 PM (gd9RK)

283 "Broke in" to the gas station without a mask. I felt free. I think the kid behind the counter was relieved because he was wearing his mask as a chin warmer.

I figure if we're letting anything up to and including arson slide, surely buying a candy bar is ok.

Posted by: t-bird at May 30, 2020 09:14 PM (sqMPm)

284 252 did he direct "Rope" ?
Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (JgrP5)
-------
Hitchcock.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 30, 2020 09:10 PM (4o2K3)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE WORD LYNCH IS ASSOCIATED WITH HANGING AND ROPE IS USED FOR THAT PURPOSE.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 30, 2020 09:14 PM (NWiLs)

285 I love David Lynch, he's like strangely All-American weird.

--------
alex's theory is that he thinks he's telling a straightforward narrative.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 09:10 PM (gd9RK)

He seems like such a likable guy. I think he starts with a premise, then lets it kinda go where it does, based not just one his own vision, but by what he gets from the process.

So he comes up with a scene, wants it in there, realizes it's going to conflict with something else he's also got in there, and does his best to paste it together. Not haphazardly, but almost like a jazz musician who is on stage with other musicians that go off in directions he didn't foresee, and he's going to find his way back there. One way or another. And shut up about the strange key change or whatever, the getting there is half the fun.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 09:14 PM (hku12)

286 258 Sally Kohn@sallykohn

Replying to @sallykohn

Also, and I don't feel like this should need to be pointed out,
property is insured and can be replaced. Lives cannot. Check your
priorities, America.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 30, 2020 08:44 PM (+y/Ru)

Insurance companies can't and don't cover everything, not all property destruction is covered and somethings are irreplaceable.
When someone destroys Sally MilliKohns home and possessions lets all see how cavalier she is about that.
Posted by: LASue at May 30, 2020 09:10 PM (Ed8Zd)

No insurance companies cover 'Acts of God' or insurrections, ie riots, unless said act is specifically covered, which costs more and is nonstandard (you have to ask for it).

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 30, 2020 09:14 PM (NgKpN)

287 David Lynch is a mad genius. I love the Showtime Twin Peaks. As much as I did the original.

Anyhoo, I snagged a DVD of Repo Man. This movie is a hoot.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 30, 2020 09:15 PM (x8Wzq)

288 The movie Spawn was originally rated R. They went back and edited out 30 seconds of violence and MPAA rated it PG-13. McFarlane released the "extended" rated R version later on dvd/Blu-ray. Suckers bought it thinking it would be like Dune, uh no.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 30, 2020 09:15 PM (DjiZK)

289 Tonight, a Fed Ex truck took off in St. Louis when a bunch of "mostly peaceful protesters" started robbing him and banging on his truck. A looter got caught under one of his wheels and got dragged to death.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 30, 2020 09:15 PM (nAiE/)

290 Occam's Razor suggests he killed himself.

Occam knows he was chemically castrated by the UK government for the crime of being gay.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 09:15 PM (gd9RK)

291 278 I liked Blue Velvet.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 09:13 PM (2DOZq)

Pabst! Blue! Ribbon!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 30, 2020 09:15 PM (NWiLs)

292 DC Cab and Repo Man

Wore both those tapes out.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:16 PM (WvQcX)

293 Anyhoo, I snagged a DVD of Repo Man. This movie is a hoot.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less

You ever think of plate? Or shrimp? Or plate of shrimp?

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 09:16 PM (VNfwt)

294 203 >I lay down my arms. I am unfamiliar with this. Story?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

Donald Sutherland Kate Nelligan
He's a Nazi spy in WW2 England

okay, maybe obscure
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 08:58 PM (iTXRQ)

And Eye of the Needle is a ho-hum film, cuz I don't care about naked Kate Nelligan, but a terrific book.

The sex scenes in Don't Look Now are either uncomfortable (me) or rip-roaringly hilarious (Mr. Gem).

Posted by: Gem at May 30, 2020 09:17 PM (kIHih)

295 The sex scenes in Don't Look Now are either uncomfortable (me) or rip-roaringly hilarious (Mr. Gem).
Posted by: Gem at May 30, 2020 09:17 PM (kIHih)

Stupid movie regardless.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 30, 2020 09:17 PM (NWiLs)

296 Pabst! Blue! Ribbon!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 30, 2020 09:15 PM (NWiLs)

Heineken . Fuck that shit !

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 09:17 PM (2DOZq)

297 Anyhoo, I snagged a DVD of Repo Man. This movie is a hoot.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 30, 2020 09:15 PM (x8Wzq)

That's a fun one. Extremely quotable.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 30, 2020 09:17 PM (t+qrx)

298 Lynch does nothing for me.
All hype.
Posted by: eleven

He had a film, I think it was the Straight Story that was rated G. As uplifting and watchable as anything. It starred the old Richard Farnsworth and he was just awesome.
Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 09:12 PM (VNfwt)

It's so flippin' awesome. But I kept watching, and when something would happen, I'd be like "uh oh, now he's gonna get it." Being a Lynch film and all.

But yeah. Everyone should watch it. It's pretty accurate to the real events too.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 09:18 PM (hku12)

299 >>Anyhoo, I snagged a DVD of Repo Man. This movie is a hoot. Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 30, 2020 09:15 PM (x8Wzq)

Plate. Shrimp. Plate of shrimp.

Posted by: Zod at May 30, 2020 09:18 PM (XzT/D)

300 . I saw LA Confidential at the movies, can hardly remember it.
Posted by: kallisto

Its a fave flick of mine....

Posted by: JT at May 30, 2020 09:18 PM (arJlL)

301 292 DC Cab and Repo Man

Wore both those tapes out.

Heard one of the Barbarian brothers just passed away.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 30, 2020 09:18 PM (DjiZK)

302 Wild Orchid. Another one with controversy - was it real sex or simulated.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:18 PM (zr5Kq)

303 >>> 288 The movie Spawn was originally rated R. They went back and edited out 30 seconds of violence and MPAA rated it PG-13. McFarlane released the "extended" rated R version later on dvd/Blu-ray. Suckers bought it thinking it would be like Dune, uh no.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 30, 2020 09:15 PM

The 90's animated series from HBO was good. The movie wasn't.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 30, 2020 09:18 PM (l6b3d)

304 So Seattle mayor declares curfew, now Inslee calls out National Guard because downtown is a shitshow. But news said Guard won't be armed. That'll end well.

Posted by: Infidel Librarian at May 30, 2020 09:19 PM (GfwZO)

305 If Nike headquarters were outside Chicago instead of safely in Beaverton, Oregon, man, what a cleaning out they would have gotten.

Posted by: t-bird at May 30, 2020 09:19 PM (sqMPm)

306 Jennifer Connolly spent about a decade and a half topless.

Legally I believe that qualified as public service...

Posted by: An Observation at May 30, 2020 09:19 PM (g76BA)

307 Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 30, 2020 09:18 PM (DjiZK)

I forgot who the black guy was but him making fun of his Asian fares makes me laugh just thinking about it.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 09:19 PM (2DOZq)

308 I saw LA Confidential at the movies, can hardly remember it.

Posted by: kallisto

Its a fave flick of mine....

Posted by: JT at May 30, 2020 09:18 PM (arJlL)

I tried to like it. It didn't work.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 30, 2020 09:19 PM (nAiE/)

309 Ok, now I'm gone. Logan time. I already know what happens, but I'm gonna watch anyway.

Night all!

Posted by: BurtTC at May 30, 2020 09:20 PM (hku12)

310 OK, GnuBreed, you believe what you want and I'll believe what I want. I've never heard Turing described as depressive, gloomy, moody...he was literally gay (heh). He was, however, the kind of guy who DID keep poisonous chemicals around and WAS rather absent-minded.

Maybe he did kill himself, but I'm just as comfortable believing that the rush to the "suicide" verdict was just another part of the anti-homosexual tenor of the time.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-18561092

In statements to the coroner, friends had attested to his good humour in the days before his death.

His neighbour described him throwing "such a jolly [tea] party" for her and her son four days before he died.

His close friend Robin Gandy, who had stayed with him the weekend before, said that Turing "seemed, if anything, happier than usual".

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 09:20 PM (CcUfv)

311 >>was it real sex or simulated.
Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:18 PM (zr5Kq)

This can also be said of "Humanoids from the Deep."

Posted by: Zod at May 30, 2020 09:20 PM (XzT/D)

312 OK everybody- what is your go-to comedy? you've seen it a million times, you'll watch it a million more, and it's funny every time?

"Used Cars"

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 09:20 PM (iTXRQ)

313
A state of Emergency was just declared in Seattle, curfew is active, and downtown is a crazy scene, although not the number of fires is not like Minneapolis.

Multiple cop cars are burning, 2 AR-15's were stolen from cars, one recovered. Multiple injuries of cops and innocent people, as well as rioters. Rioters are shooting fireworks into crowds. Downtown, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th avenues, Pike, Pine, Stewart, for those of you that know the city. Also down around the Federal Courthouse area.

I live 20 miles south of downtown, and just got an Emergency Alert from Mayor Jenny Durkin on my cellphone about it.

Good news is that it is raining hard all day and rain will continue. Thanks, Mother Nature.

And how is your Saturday going?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 30, 2020 09:21 PM (sy5kK)

314 "Used Cars"
Posted by: DB- just DB

Yes. Also, Slap Shot.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 09:21 PM (VNfwt)

315
So Seattle mayor declares curfew, now Inslee calls out National Guard
because downtown is a shitshow. But news said Guard won't be armed.
That'll end well.

Posted by: Infidel Librarian at May 30, 2020 09:19 PM (GfwZO)

Does the National Guard have the right to refuse that order? Can the appeal it to someone? Sending them into that unarmed is going to get some of them murdered.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 30, 2020 09:21 PM (nAiE/)

316 >>was it real sex or simulated.
Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:18 PM (zr5Kq)

This can also be said of "Humanoids from the Deep."
Posted by: Zod at May 30, 2020 09:20 PM (XzT/D)

That's... that's a movie title you're talking about, right?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 30, 2020 09:22 PM (t+qrx)

317 I've watched Uncle Buck at least 30 times. Not laugh out loud but one continuous smile.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 09:22 PM (2DOZq)

318 This can also be said of "Humanoids from the Deep."
Posted by: Zod at May 30, 2020 09:20 PM (XzT/D)

I don't know that one.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:23 PM (zr5Kq)

319 I think Paul Thomas Anderson's film-making mission is to make movies whose sole purpose is to annoy the people watching them. Until they say, "This is annoying" and turn those movies off. And watch something better, like "Earth vs. The Flying Saucers."

That said, I'm about 30 minutes into "Magnolia" and while the annoyance is very strong--almost strident--I haven't turned it off yet.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 30, 2020 09:23 PM (l9m7l)

320 hogmartin--

"Humanoids from the Deep", a Roger Corman production, directed by Barbara Peeters and starring Doug McClure.

It's Jaws, if the sharks could come on to the land and rape women. Ends with the town festival being invaded by rapey amphibians.

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 09:23 PM (CcUfv)

321 Penetration = X rated

No Penetration = R rated

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 30, 2020 09:23 PM (Z+IKu)

322 314 "Used Cars"
Posted by: DB- just DB

2nd best movie evah

you know what's #1

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 09:24 PM (JgrP5)

323 > OK everybody- what is your go-to comedy?

1) Classic Mel Brooks (Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein...)
2) Classic Python
3) The Three Stooges (no Shemp, Joe, or "Curly Joe" need apply).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:24 PM (hKLpI)

324 Slap Shot is interesting because Paul Newman was kinda at his zenith star power and he chose to do this bawdy, over-the-top comedy. The language was startling for the time.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 09:24 PM (VNfwt)

325 302 Wild Orchid. Another one with controversy - was it real sex or simulated.
Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:18 PM (zr5Kq)

Brown...Bunny? And maybe Blue Valentine? These may have been mentioned upthread but I haven't got there yet.

Posted by: Gem at May 30, 2020 09:24 PM (kIHih)

326 during hurricane Andrew word went out the National guard was unarmed. A carload of gangbangers tried to run a checkpoint. They got half a belt withm 60 for their trouble.

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at May 30, 2020 09:24 PM (8C5t8)

327 Video of downtown (I didn't think there was any retail down there) They looted and emptied out a sneaker store.The whole city administration is black!

Posted by: Colin at May 30, 2020 09:24 PM (KGj2Y)

328 I never saw CHUD but I always liked saying
Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 09:24 PM (2DOZq)

329 I'm hoping they were wrong, because that's just nuts.

Posted by: Infidel Librarian at May 30, 2020 09:25 PM (GfwZO)

330 312 OK everybody- what is your go-to comedy? you've seen it a million times, you'll watch it a million more, and it's funny every time?

Easy

CADDYSHACK

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 09:25 PM (JgrP5)

331 Remember seeing Mulholland Drive and trying to figure out why they made that.

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2020 09:25 PM (ZCEU2)

332 270 Nike released a simple but powerful ad Friday evening

And their store on Michigan Avenue in Chicago was looted bare today.

So, that was kind of a waste, wasn't it?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:09 PM (hKLpI)

The sheer moral power of Colin Kapernick didn't repel the rioters? Shocking.
Posted by: LASue at May 30, 2020 09:12 PM (Ed8Zd)

Nike, because they support this kind of shit with their money and corporate direction from the top, deserves all the pain and destruction they get.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 30, 2020 09:25 PM (sy5kK)

333 >>Sending them into that unarmed is going to get some of them murdered. Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 30, 2020 09:21 PM (nAiE/)

>Humanoids from the Deep

Suggested edit: Sending them into that unarmed is going to get some of them with their bikinis torn off and then raped/impregnated on a beach by humanoids.

Posted by: Zod at May 30, 2020 09:25 PM (XzT/D)

334 What was the last good long hot kiss in a movie? Kathleen Turner in Body Heat? Or was that The Postman Always Rings Twice?
Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 08:27 PM (7+QLY)
___________

Check out Joel McCrea and Jean Arthur making out on her front porch in The More The Merrier (1943). Yow!

Posted by: DynamiteDan at May 30, 2020 09:25 PM (JZD4p)

335 Posted by: Gem at May 30, 2020 09:24 PM (kIHih)

No secret about Brown Bunny. That was real.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 09:26 PM (2DOZq)

336 His close friend Robin Gandy, who had stayed with him the weekend before, said that Turing "seemed, if anything, happier than usual".

Because he had made his decision. His troubles would soon be over.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:26 PM (yQpMk)

337 Ends with the town festival being invaded by rapey amphibians.
Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 09:23 PM (CcUfv)

And that's why we don't go to Innsmouth any more.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 30, 2020 09:26 PM (t+qrx)

338 ''OK everybody- what is your go-to comedy? you've seen it a million times, you'll watch it a million more, and it's funny every time? ''

''Operation Petticoat", "Pillow Talk'' , ''The Lady Eve", ''Ball of Fire", My Favorite Wife'', "The Awful Truth"

Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 09:26 PM (gLRfa)

339 This is really not uncommon in suicides. At least for men.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:26 PM (yQpMk)

340 OK everybody- what is your go-to comedy? you've seen it a million times, you'll watch it a million more, and it's funny every time?

"Used Cars"
Posted by: DB- just DB

That's a cult classic.

I like Dumb and Dumber. If I feel crappy that's a picker upper.

Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 09:26 PM (Qf83p)

341 Hairyback--

You can get an "X" (or NC-17 these days) without showing penetration.

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 09:26 PM (CcUfv)

342 > 2 AR-15's were stolen from cars, one recovered.

Undercover cop and/or private security taking a stolen AR-15 away from an Antifa soiboi.

https://twitter.com/ShawnGarrett/status/1266875751552278528

Definitely a pro. Seizes the weapon, forces MongSewer SkinniJeans to back off, drops the magazine, clears the chamber.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:27 PM (hKLpI)

343 OK everybody- what is your go-to comedy? you've seen it a million times, you'll watch it a million more, and it's funny every time?

Easy

CADDYSHACK
Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 09:25 PM (JgrP5)

Stepbrothers.

It's the f-in Catalina Wine Mixer! Pwow!

Pamn?

We recycle.

So many activities!

Posted by: LASue at May 30, 2020 09:27 PM (Ed8Zd)

344 "Brown Bunny" was savaged by Ebert, but after fuming for a time the director took his critique to heart, recut the movie, and Ebert revised his review.

I haven't seen it, but I liked the story (it's from Ebert's "I Hated, Hated, HATED This Movie").

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:27 PM (Dc2NZ)

345 No secret about Brown Bunny. That was real.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here

Yep. Chloe Severgny? I don't know how to spell.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 09:27 PM (VNfwt)

346 Comedy: "The Jerk."

Or "The Hills Have Eyes."

Posted by: Zod at May 30, 2020 09:27 PM (XzT/D)

347 Slap Shot is a comedy but I put it into my sports movies.

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2020 09:27 PM (ZCEU2)

348 The classics, of course, Animal House and Caddyshack, but I can always watch So I Married An Ax Murderer again.

Theoretically go-to movies. My attention span has been so internet-shortened that I start peeking at the time bar if something is over a minute long.

Posted by: t-bird at May 30, 2020 09:28 PM (sqMPm)

349 Go to comedy?

SpaceBalls

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:28 PM (WvQcX)

350 Slap Shot is interesting because Paul Newman was kinda at his zenith star power and he chose to do this bawdy, over-the-top comedy. The language was startling for the time.

I'm a comments track whore. I just love comments tracks. The comments track on Slapshot is the Hanson Brothers.

Almost all they talk about is whether the actors could really skate or if they filmed around it. Newman could really skate.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 09:28 PM (gd9RK)

351 A great movie no one ever talks aboot: What's Up Doc.

Ryan O'Niell has been in some surprisingly awesome movies.

Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 09:28 PM (Qf83p)

352 I remember laughing my ass off during A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum. I haven't seen it since so I don't know if it holds up.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:29 PM (yQpMk)

353 Slapshot is great, but Goon is so quotable.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:29 PM (Dc2NZ)

354 And please, folks, it's the HAYS code, not Hayes. Has nothing to do with Rutherford B.

Posted by: DynamiteDan at May 30, 2020 09:29 PM (JZD4p)

355 336 His close friend Robin Gandy, who had stayed with him the weekend before, said that Turing "seemed, if anything, happier than usual".

Because he had made his decision. His troubles would soon be over.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:26 PM (yQpMk)

Yes, I think this is a common pattern.

Posted by: Gem at May 30, 2020 09:29 PM (kIHih)

356 312 OK everybody- what is your go-to comedy? you've seen it a million times, you'll watch it a million more, and it's funny every time?

"Used Cars"
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 09:20 PM (iTXRQ)

Tough - Hooper, Blazing Saddles or Cannonball Run

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 30, 2020 09:29 PM (DjiZK)

357 Chicago is on fire. Loop and Gold Coast. Looting on all the major Michigan Ave stores. Brooks, Burberry, Saks, Bloomies. I worked in that area for the better part of 20 years. It's heart rending.

1st District Police Station, miles away, is under lockdown. Listening to the scanner, it sounds bad. Now I'm hearing Water Tower and the glamorous shops on Walton.

Chicago, alas

Posted by: Second City Wet Blanket at May 30, 2020 09:30 PM (MEbkQ)

358 Grump928(C) -- Sure, and it's not impossible that he was just covering up, and the "treatments" (thanks, Psychiatry!) were really getting him down (even though he said otherwise), and even though he hadn't had any trouble for years by all reports.

But it's not the slam-dunk that Hollywood desperately needed it to be.

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 09:30 PM (CcUfv)

359 So Seattle mayor declares curfew, now Inslee calls out National Guard
because downtown is a shitshow. But news said Guard won't be armed.
That'll end well.

Posted by: Infidel Librarian at May 30, 2020 09:19 PM (GfwZO)

Does the National Guard have the right to refuse that order? Can the appeal it to someone? Sending them into that unarmed is going to get some of them murdered.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 30, 2020 09:21 PM (nAiE/)s

If my son were in the Washington Nat. Guard, I'd encourage him to ignore the order.

Posted by: LASue at May 30, 2020 09:30 PM (Ed8Zd)

360 A great movie no one ever talks aboot: What's Up Doc.
---
I love this movie. So many great performances, and it manages to keep a dozen plates spinning throughout.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:30 PM (Dc2NZ)

361 I haven't seen it since so I don't know if it holds up.
Posted by: Grump928(C)

It does.

"He raped Thrace!"

"Yes?!"

"And again and again!"

"He raped Thrace thrice?"

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 09:30 PM (VNfwt)

362 I can not recommend Mouse Hunt with Nathan Lane higher.

Or not. You may hate it. It made my sides hurt.

Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 09:30 PM (Qf83p)

363 Maybe should go with Big Labowski.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:31 PM (WvQcX)

364 I'm a comments track whore. I just love comments tracks. The comments track on Slapshot is the Hanson Brothers.

Almost all they talk about is whether the actors could really skate or if they filmed around it. Newman could really skate.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 09:28 PM (gd9RK)

Wrapping the foil coach

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 30, 2020 09:31 PM (DjiZK)

365 > And their store on Michigan Avenue in Chicago was looted bare today.

https://twitter.com/QuarantineTrac1/status/1266895545920086016

Obviously "white supremacists". I mean, just look at them.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:31 PM (hKLpI)

366 Posted by: t-bird at May 30, 2020 09:28 PM (sqMPm)

I was going to put that in my top five. I should have made it a top six. Very quotable.

I still use his quip in the opening scene every chance I get.

Waitress brings him that cup of coffee as big as a bucket and his says ' excuse me but I ordered the large cup'

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 09:31 PM (2DOZq)

367 Turned off the tv so are they still working on destroying the cities?

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2020 09:31 PM (ZCEU2)

368 'He's a nihilist.'

'Must be exhausting.'

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:31 PM (WvQcX)

369 >>And please, folks, it's the HAYS code, not Hayes. Has nothing to do with Rutherford B.

Ah, dammit, Dan, you're right. I got it wrong in the post but right here in the comments. :-/

Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 09:31 PM (CcUfv)

370 His close friend Robin Gandy, who had stayed with him the weekend before, said that Turing "seemed, if anything, happier than usual".
Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 09:20 PM (CcUfv)

This is actually a *sign* people should watch for in people who have depression or that have made suicidal statements in the past. When depressed people are suddenly very happy and participating in things it's a sign that they have made the decision and have a plan in place to kill themselves and they are happy and relieved that they have finally given themselves a solution to their depression.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at May 30, 2020 09:32 PM (Xt7n2)

371 A great movie no one ever talks aboot: What's Up Doc.

Ryan O'Niell has been in some surprisingly awesome movies.
Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 09:28 PM (Qf

I can't stand Streisand, but I remember laughing out loud a bunch the first time I saw that movie.

Posted by: LASue at May 30, 2020 09:32 PM (Ed8Zd)

372 Chicago cops being dragged through the streets.

Are the Democrats totally sure they don't want to have an actual party convention this year?

Posted by: Virtual Miklos at May 30, 2020 09:33 PM (QzkSJ)

373 Wrapping the foil coach
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death

Old time hockey! Eddie Shore!

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 09:33 PM (VNfwt)

374 Streisand showed 2 1/2 frames of tit in What's Up Pussycat.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 30, 2020 09:33 PM (gd9RK)

375 And speaking of penetration, gonna go re-watch Dragon pierce the heavens.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:33 PM (Dc2NZ)

376 Sounds like they need the real military and water cannons to break up these ''protests". Let's see how long it takes the blue mayors and governors to ask PDT for help.

Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 09:33 PM (gLRfa)

377 You can get an "X" (or NC-17 these days) without showing penetration.
Posted by: moviegique at May 30, 2020 09:26 PM (CcUfv)

Which is why we have no standards anymore.

I must have standards and penetration or no "X".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 30, 2020 09:33 PM (Z+IKu)

378 A movie I laughed my ass off but not many people saw was the Reno 911 movie.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:34 PM (WvQcX)

379 Chicago is on fire. Loop and Gold Coast. Looting on all the major Michigan Ave stores. Brooks, Burberry, Saks, Bloomies. I worked in that area for the better part of 20 years. It's heart rending.

1st District Police Station, miles away, is under lockdown. Listening to the scanner, it sounds bad. Now I'm hearing Water Tower and the glamorous shops on Walton.

Chicago, alas
Posted by: Second City Wet Blanket at May 30, 2020 09:30 PM (MEbkQ)

where are you getting this ?

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:34 PM (zr5Kq)

380 Guess Chicago is getting razed to the ground

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2020 09:34 PM (ZCEU2)

381 I love this movie. So many great performances, and it manages to keep a dozen plates spinning throughout.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

Compadre.

Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 09:34 PM (Qf83p)

382 A movie I laughed my ass off but not many people saw was the Reno 911 movie.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

It's great!

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 09:34 PM (VNfwt)

383 On news website (King 5) still says Guard will be unarmed and "work under the direction of city leadership". Because they've managed this so well so far.

Posted by: Infidel Librarian at May 30, 2020 09:34 PM (GfwZO)

384 Ryan O'Niell has been in some surprisingly awesome movies.
Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 09:28 PM (Qf83p)

and he was married to the smokey Johanna Moore

she was 7 years older than the young Ryan

cougar

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 09:34 PM (JgrP5)

385 159 The gov in MN is finally calling it "Urban Warfare". Admitting it's mostly out of state actors. Highways are closed.
Posted by: johnd01 at May 30, 2020 08:49 PM (TXvM3)

An experienced FOX reporter 2 days ago in Minneapolis reported that there were organized leaders with earpieces, directing underlings during the riots. The earpiece guys were openly communicating and responding with orders to their squads. The reporter also was told by some that they were being paid cash to riot.

This is planned, and funded. That is obvious.

Does any government official understand this?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 30, 2020 09:35 PM (sy5kK)

386 Gov. Abbot in Texas has activated the TX National Guard.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:35 PM (hKLpI)

387 Two movies that I preferred in the original language were Das Boot and Apocalypto. I watched Apocalypto, the second time with the subtitles on, just to see how well I guessed the dialog. Pretty well, except for the Mad Little Prophetess scene. There is really no context to say what that was about.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:35 PM (yQpMk)

388 The Night Chicago Died.

Posted by: Eromero at May 30, 2020 09:35 PM (XhWtx)

389 Guess Chicago is getting razed to the ground
Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2020 09:34 PM (ZCEU2)

not true

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:35 PM (zr5Kq)

390 Courthouse in Nashville was lit on fire.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:36 PM (WvQcX)

391 Wonder if the climactic scene of "Bone Tomahawk" qualifies as 'penetration.'

Posted by: Zod at May 30, 2020 09:36 PM (XzT/D)

392 Chicago is under curfew. Streets are closed off and bridges over river drawn.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (zr5Kq)

393 Turned off the tv so are they still working on destroying the cities?
Posted by: Skip

Someone has to put their foot down!

Posted by: Mayor Lightfoot at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (QzkSJ)

394 ''On news website (King 5) still says Guard will be unarmed and "work under the direction of city leadership". Because they've managed this so well so far.''

If I had a kid in the Guard I be scared shitless. Unarmed. Good lord. What will that accomplish other than making them targets?

Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (gLRfa)

395 Chicago is on fire. Loop and Gold Coast. Looting on all the major
Michigan Ave stores. Brooks, Burberry, Saks, Bloomies. I worked in that
area for the better part of 20 years. It's heart rending.

1st District Police Station, miles away, is under lockdown.
Listening to the scanner, it sounds bad. Now I'm hearing Water Tower
and the glamorous shops on Walton.

Chicago, alas

Posted by: Second City Wet Blanket at May 30, 2020 09:30 PM (MEbkQ)

Dykefoot told the cops to stand down. They better tell her to fuck off and take matters in their own hands and do something.

From Second City Cop:

I am watching footage of Chicago Police Officers being beaten, dragged, overwhelmed and outnumbered.

CW Dispatcher tried to tell off Car 100, and 100 told him to stuff it.

This after something like a dozen cops are in the hospital with broken bones and limbs.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (Icz4p)

396 nYPD using cars to push back rioters. Wow.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (WvQcX)

397 383 On news website (King 5) still says Guard will be unarmed and "work under the direction of city leadership". Because they've managed this so well so far.
Posted by: Infidel Librarian at May 30, 2020 09:34 PM (GfwZO)

Need to bring some air support out of Whidby and Bravo Co armor out of Yakima.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (DjiZK)

398 .This is planned, and funded. That is obvious.

Does any government official understand this?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

oh they understand it, but no one wants to go first as far as saying it out loud
gotta protect our phoney baloney jobs!

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (iTXRQ)

399 Fox News going back to DC after commercial break. POTUS back at White Hut.

Posted by: Baldy at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (OLCH5)

400 Two movies that I preferred in the original language were Das Boot and Apocalypto.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:35 PM (yQpMk)

I generally prefer subtitles so I can hear the actors (even if I can't understand them), but I'll play the English dubbed version for Das Boot. All the actors spoke English, so they dubbed their own lines.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 30, 2020 09:38 PM (t+qrx)

401 Gov. Abbot in Texas has activated the TX National Guard.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

I call that pro-activating.

Posted by: Miklos, ahead of the curves at May 30, 2020 09:38 PM (QzkSJ)

402 Runner ... I'm listening to the live feed of CPD scanners. Search for Broadcastify.com

Posted by: Second City Wet Blanket at May 30, 2020 09:38 PM (MEbkQ)

403 396 nYPD using cars to push back rioters. Wow.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (WvQcX)

snowplows work better

mine weighs 900 lb

nice to set on the toes

Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 09:39 PM (JgrP5)

404 I think the point of "The Imitation Game" is, 'this guy helped shorten the war, saving millions of lives, and this is the thanks he got'

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 09:39 PM (iTXRQ)

405 Wait? Cagney and Lacey had a reboot?? It sucked the first time around.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 30, 2020 09:39 PM (n0PHw)

406 Breakin 911 Twitter has a lot of feeds

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:39 PM (WvQcX)

407 nYPD using cars to push back rioters. Wow.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (WvQcX)

snowplows work better

mine weighs 900 lb

nice to set on the toes
Posted by: REDACTED at May 30, 2020 09:39 PM (JgrP5)

THE SCOOPS ARE ON THE WAY

Posted by: hogmartin at May 30, 2020 09:39 PM (t+qrx)

408 >>378 A movie I laughed my ass off but not many people saw was the Reno 911 movie.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:34 PM (WvQcX)

"Hey assholes, more assholes here for your big suck-fest tonight."

Posted by: Zod at May 30, 2020 09:39 PM (XzT/D)

409 Watching whats going on I see white guys wearing college sweat shirts...Everyone is wearing masks to cover them selves from video cameras.

Posted by: Colin at May 30, 2020 09:39 PM (KGj2Y)

410 Legal Insurrection- Leftist politicians and media trying to pin the violence on white supremacist and Trump.

Where exactly do you find thousands of white supremacists in a urban areas that vote Democrat 100%?

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2020 09:40 PM (ZCEU2)

411 Our friend Wyatt Earp will have some stories to tell next time he shows up. I'm on phone with Philly friend. It's bad.

Posted by: kallisto at May 30, 2020 09:40 PM (7+QLY)

412
More from Second City Cop:

CW6 sounds like a war zone downtown https://crimeisdown.com/audio/live/citywide6

Sounds
like Brownie dont want to gas them. Burning and flipping squads, guys
getting their ass's kicked, looting and burning, breaking windows at
city hall, 10-1s, and a lot of "fuck you's" to Brown, Groot, and fat ass

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:41 PM (Icz4p)

413 LeftCoast Dawg

I saw all this in the World Bank protests of the 1990s. The DC cops did nothing, and in a cherry tree was a leader with comms. The black clad anarchists were well drilled.

It was like a 'No' play. Everyone had their roles, and carried on. Push and shove, slogans shouted, and the cameramen were the focus of attention.

I was just wondering over from the lab, but it was a real education.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 30, 2020 09:41 PM (u82oZ)

414 408 >>378 A movie I laughed my ass off but not many people saw was the Reno 911 movie.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:34 PM (WvQcX)

"Hey assholes, more assholes here for your big suck-fest tonight."
Posted by: Zod at May 30, 2020 09:39 PM (XzT/D

My favorite scene is the motel scene where they all end up masturbating alone.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:41 PM (WvQcX)

415 Majority of the hooligans are white. Guess got cooped up.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:41 PM (zr5Kq)

416 One local Seattle station is looping a scene where a rioter who stole an AR15 from a cop car was caught and the AR taken back.

The guy was dressed all in black, had a pistol pointed at the guy, and had another guy right by him to help him.

They were both cops of some kind. Undercover in the crowd. But they only grabbed the rifle instead of taking him down, weird. Obviously under orders not to arrest the rioters, even if they burn a cop car and steal a rifle.

Classic fucking Seattle mindset. Bring that shit into the suburbs, and a different outcome is guaranteed.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 30, 2020 09:42 PM (sy5kK)

417 THE SCOOPS ARE ON THE WAY
Posted by: hogmartin

AT LEAST TWO SCOOPS

Posted by: Golden Scalp Miklos at May 30, 2020 09:42 PM (QzkSJ)

418 410.....

Given that and the thousands of hours of video, their attempt to blame this on "white supremacists" is beyond comprehension.

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 30, 2020 09:43 PM (6B+ER)

419 An experienced FOX reporter 2 days ago in
Minneapolis reported that there were organized leaders with earpieces,
directing underlings during the riots. The earpiece guys were openly
communicating and responding with orders to their squads. The reporter
also was told by some that they were being paid cash to riot.

This is planned, and funded. That is obvious.

Does any government official understand this?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 30, 2020 09:35 PM (sy5kK)

Orders need to be shoot to kill and take out the guys with the earpieces first.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 30, 2020 09:43 PM (nAiE/)

420 My favorite scene is the motel scene where they all end up masturbating alone.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

The scene toward the end where Dangle says "We're not the smartest cops, maybe. Maybe not the best cops. Maybe not the smartest cops. Gorram it, can I finish my thought!"

Posted by: Blutarski at May 30, 2020 09:44 PM (VNfwt)

421 > snowplows work better

Snow cutters/"snow munchers" work better still.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:44 PM (hKLpI)

422 From Second City Cop:

I am watching footage of Chicago Police Officers being beaten, dragged, overwhelmed and outnumbered.

CW Dispatcher tried to tell off Car 100, and 100 told him to stuff it.

This after something like a dozen cops are in the hospital with broken bones and limbs.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (Icz4p)

I hope all the police call out with "blue flu".
I hope they find the Police Superintendent and Lightfoot and burn them down.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at May 30, 2020 09:44 PM (Xt7n2)

423 353 Slapshot is great, but Goon is so quotable.

I was surprised how much I liked Goon. It's a very good movie and that actor (can't remember his name) was really good in it. I never gave him much thought. Just the "American Pie" dude. He was really good in Goon. Very good movie.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 30, 2020 09:44 PM (n0PHw)

424 Black flags are Antifa ?

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:44 PM (zr5Kq)

425 THE SCOOPS ARE ON THE WAY
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Never not applicable

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:45 PM (Dc2NZ)

426 Orders need to be shoot to kill and take out the guys with the earpieces first.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 30, 2020 09:43 PM (nAiE/)

This and tell the commie mayors and governors to get stuffed.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:45 PM (Icz4p)

427 396 nYPD using cars to push back rioters. Wow.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:37 PM (WvQcX)
----
AOC is apoplectic about it.

Posted by: Menack at May 30, 2020 09:46 PM (buTO7)

428 New York City: listening to Broadcastify.com, the cops are overwhelmed at Bowery and 3rd St., 2000-strong. Looting and setting fires, The cops are pinned; the dispatcher sounds frantic. This is four blocks from my apartment.

https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/1855

Posted by: Beverly at May 30, 2020 09:46 PM (SBMUk)

429 Man, Nashville has gone berserk.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:46 PM (WvQcX)

430 The Grove aka farmers mkt 3rd / fairfax L A, expensive retail shops, looting now, nordstroms, etc. Tactical alert citywide. Chief wondering if enough cops to protect town.

Posted by: banned loading magazines at May 30, 2020 09:47 PM (pYHXl)

431

The mob is descending on City Hall in Chicago.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:47 PM (Icz4p)

432 Caligula was never dated. Hustler mag didn't want the X rating it was going to get destroying it's box office. I saw it 7x when I was 15, paid for it 0.

Posted by: MantuaBill at May 30, 2020 09:47 PM (T41Bc)

433

Posted by: Second City Wet Blanket at May 30, 2020 09:38 PM (MEbkQ)

https://www.nbcchicago.com

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:48 PM (zr5Kq)

434 Beverly you should be safe right?

Posted by: Skip at May 30, 2020 09:48 PM (ZCEU2)

435 I figure what's happening is that Trump is going to make the blue mayors/governors beg him for help, publicly, before he lifts a finger.

At that point, martial law gets declared.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:48 PM (hKLpI)

436 I guess that's a another "good" way to get Federal bailouts-burn down your cities.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 30, 2020 09:48 PM (+eVzC)

437 The mob is descending on City Hall in Chicago.�

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 3

Burn it down.

Posted by: National Divorce at May 30, 2020 09:49 PM (SJDa9)

438 Now I'm hearing that Chicago City Hall has been broken into ...

Sounds like things are breaking down faster now.

Sure hope somebody has plans for the National Guard.

Posted by: Second City Wet Blanket at May 30, 2020 09:49 PM (MEbkQ)

439 All calm here in Anchorage so far.

That may or may not have something to do with the average Alaskan family home being more heavily armed than a mujahideen compound in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:49 PM (hKLpI)

440 413 LeftCoast Dawg

I saw all this in the World Bank protests of the 1990s. The DC cops did nothing, and in a cherry tree was a leader with comms. The black clad anarchists were well drilled.
-------------

In the Seattle 1999 protests, I was working downtown and on a sales call to an office. I didn't know what was going on because I was in an office. Back in my car, I turned a corner and ran right into a mob a block or two away, coming right at me, in the middle of the afternoon.

Fuch, I thought. I just bought this new car. The roads are blocked and many cars behind me meant I couldn't back up.

So, being that I roamed the immediate neighborhood and the many bars over years, I knew of an alley that went through, saw it and took it. Wrong way, so what?

After I was safely driving home, it hit me how close I was and realized how lucky I was.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 30, 2020 09:49 PM (sy5kK)

441 > I guess that's a another "good" way to get Federal bailouts-burn down your cities.

I don't think those bailouts are going to be arriving.

What are they going to do if they don't? Not vote for Trump?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:50 PM (hKLpI)

442 The black guy in my town is still real polite.

Posted by: Menack at May 30, 2020 09:50 PM (buTO7)

443

Unless the cops go all British army at Rorke's Drift on this mob there will nothing left of these cities.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:50 PM (Icz4p)

444 Posted by: Second City Wet Blanket at May 30, 2020 09:49 PM (MEbkQ)

get a grip

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:50 PM (zr5Kq)

445 Reno 911 wiki page:

"Deputy Sergeant Clementine 'Clemmy' Johnson...is a promiscuous, trashy, drug-friendly blonde who always wears her uniform partially unbuttoned...she was a magician's assistant in Branson, MO, an exotic dancer, a Wiccan, and a Steely Dan groupie..."

Be still my beating heart.

Posted by: Zod at May 30, 2020 09:50 PM (XzT/D)

446 Posted by: Second City Wet Blanket at May 30, 2020 09:38 PM (MEbkQ)

https://www.nbcchicago.com

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:48 PM (zr5Kq)

POS NBC is still calling them protestors

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:52 PM (Icz4p)

447 >All calm here in Anchorage so far.

you are fortunate- your state has huge social distance from the Lower 48

Posted by: DB- just DB at May 30, 2020 09:52 PM (iTXRQ)

448 > Where exactly do you find thousands of white supremacists in a urban areas that vote Democrat 100%?

Same place that Jussie Smollett found two white guys in MAGA hats on the South Side of Chicago at 2:00 AM.

They're everywhere!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:53 PM (hKLpI)

449 We need the 24th Foot on a tour of American Blue areas.

Form 3 Ranks.
First rank, Volley Fire.
Second Rank, Volley Fire
Third Rank, Volley Fire.

Semiautomatic rifles make it all too easy.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 30, 2020 09:53 PM (u82oZ)

450 I swear I heard one of the Chicago cops in the background growsing that This is what you get when you vote Democrat.

Also, they need more people at Deerborn and Randolph.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:53 PM (yQpMk)

451 Has Biden called for calm, and is telling his people that he has a plan.

Posted by: Colin at May 30, 2020 09:54 PM (KGj2Y)

452 > you are fortunate- your state has huge social distance from the Lower 48

And yet Anchorage is one of the most genuinely diverse cities in the country.

We've got people from literally everywhere here.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:54 PM (hKLpI)

453 Has Mayor Warren Wilhelm Jr. started crying yet and asking the looters to social distance and wear masks?

No leadership having commie bastard.

Pray for New York and the good people who have to suffer this fool.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 30, 2020 09:54 PM (Z+IKu)

454 'Sup, y'all?

Posted by: Weasel at May 30, 2020 09:54 PM (MVjcR)

455 POS NBC is still calling them protestors
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:52 PM (Icz4p)

what does that have to do with a live feed from a helicopter ?

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:54 PM (zr5Kq)

456 They're looting Neiman marcus.

You have to have a heart of stone etc.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:54 PM (yQpMk)

457 I swear I heard one of the Chicago cops in the background growsing that This is what you get when you vote Democrat.

Also, they need more people at Deerborn and Randolph.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:53 PM (yQpMk)

I heard that too. They've got to start putting bullets into this scum

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:54 PM (Icz4p)

458 >>Semiautomatic rifles make it all too easy.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 30, 2020 09:53 PM (u82oZ)

Got brass in pocket.

I'm gonna use it.

Posted by: Zod at May 30, 2020 09:55 PM (XzT/D)

459 All quiet in my little Arkansas town, population about large brigade strength and just as well armed.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 30, 2020 09:55 PM (C1Lsn)

460 No one is calling them anything but protesters across the country.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:55 PM (zr5Kq)

461 Rodrigo Borgia

Being an American is adherence to a set of values and the Constitution.

The source and type of your DNA is irrelevant.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 30, 2020 09:55 PM (u82oZ)

462 Nashville declares civil emergency

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 30, 2020 09:56 PM (WvQcX)

463 *looks in safe*

*chooses M-Forgery*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 30, 2020 09:56 PM (yQpMk)

464 ONT

Posted by: hogmartin at May 30, 2020 09:56 PM (t+qrx)

465 That's a nice view from up there.

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 09:56 PM (zr5Kq)

466 > Semiautomatic rifles make it all too easy.

There's something to be said for the proverbial "whiff of grapeshot".

Or the modern equivalent, claymore mines.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:56 PM (hKLpI)

467 Our local cops in the city were using bean bags, no one paid any attention to it.

Posted by: Colin at May 30, 2020 09:56 PM (KGj2Y)

468 Do any of these cities have Republican mayors?

Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 09:57 PM (gLRfa)

469

I wonder what all of the lakefront liberals cowering and shitting themselves in their homes are thinking now? Probably blaming Trump and racism as the city burns

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 30, 2020 09:57 PM (Icz4p)

470 You know the ONT is up, right?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 30, 2020 09:57 PM (Dc2NZ)

471 Do any of these cities have Republican mayors?
Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 09:57 PM (gLRfa)

Ummmmmmm.....No.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 30, 2020 09:59 PM (Z+IKu)

472 Where is all that surplus military equipment given to the police that everyone is always complaining about? Now is the time to bring it out.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 30, 2020 09:59 PM (2DOZq)

473 Here in Pittsburgh, besides attacking police, they hit the police horses. I am so mad & sad about what is happening across the country. Just really pissed off.

Posted by: Baldy at May 30, 2020 09:59 PM (OLCH5)

474 Update

The Seattle guy in black that grabbed the loaded AR15 from the rioter was not a cop, rather a security guy for the local FOX outlet, it was just reported.

The guy looks like he was an MP for at least a couple of tours, and knew exactly what to do to disarm the thug. Armed security all the way.

Unlike Seattle PD.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 30, 2020 10:00 PM (sy5kK)

475 Harris Faulkner, who I normally like, just said idiotically "SOME of the protests becoming violent."

Posted by: Baldy at May 30, 2020 10:02 PM (OLCH5)

476 Seattle has a female mayor ?

Posted by: runner at May 30, 2020 10:03 PM (zr5Kq)

477 "435 I figure what's happening is that Trump is going to make the blue mayors/governors beg him for help, publicly, before he lifts a finger.

At that point, martial law gets declared.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 30, 2020 09:48 PM (hKLpI) "

This, yugely & luxuriously, and he's bloody well right, too.
2 weeks ago blue-state gubners were all states rights about staying locked down forever and "Trump can't tell us what to do" so now they get that policy good and hard right back.
This is all a setup for "Trump is murdering poor inner city yoots !"

Which is not to say I am not concerned for the safety of innocent Hordelings trapped in urban areas, far from it.
Praying for every one of you.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 30, 2020 10:04 PM (XXrUA)

478 ''I wonder what all of the lakefront liberals cowering and shitting themselves in their homes are thinking now? Probably blaming Trump and racism as the city burns''

Oh absolutely they are. Hypocrites. All of them.

Posted by: Tuna at May 30, 2020 10:04 PM (gLRfa)

479 Am I the only one who thinks there needs to be a reckoning between the blue cities and the extremists?

Like this is not our circus and not our monkeys and let them hash it out?

Anyone?

Posted by: eleven at May 30, 2020 10:16 PM (Qf83p)

480 I think Evil Dead 2 was the funniest movie I've seen.

Then again, I was on mushrooms at the time.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 30, 2020 10:38 PM (vuisn)

481 @479...not a ridiculous idea at all. The moral case for bailing these regions out is disappearing quickly. The economic reason may hold a little longer.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 30, 2020 11:15 PM (ja/kn)

482 > I heard that too. They've got to start putting bullets into this scum
There's lots of scum, and far fewer of the Democrat city officials that are encouraging them. If you only have so many bullets, you may need to think about the marginal value of each one deployed.

Posted by: perilisk at May 30, 2020 11:35 PM (F16++)

483 Transformers:The Movie (1986) got PG instead of G like most animated features got because Spike Witwicky said "OH SHIT!" once. PG-13 was invented for Red Dawn.

Posted by: Hurricane567 at June 01, 2020 02:47 AM (xAxac)

484 I remember seeing this when it came out. I've always hated censorship for its arbitrariness as pointed out here. But it turns out its not even fucking objective fucking arbitrariness. I decided to curse in this fucking comment to make my fucking point better, you cuntbags.

The South Park guys, when making their independent film "Orgazmo," which I've seen, which is incredibly mild, but still got an NC-17, would continually try to ask the MPAA why they had gotten an NC-17 and what they should cut out. The MPAA, those fucking censorship Goddamned Nazis, told them that there's no fucking way they could tell them what to cut out of their fucking movie, because they don't do that, that they're not allowed to give fucking tips and fucking pointers about how to fix their movie.

Later on, while making "South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut," working for Paramount, somehow, amazingly, they had a hotline right to the fucking MPAA, those shiteaters, telling them exactly what they had to do to fucking get that fucking NC-17 down to a fucking R. None of the old fucking lines about, "Oh, you poor stupid fuckers, we're not allowed to fucking help." Now it was exact advice on exactly what to do, given to them ONLY because they had a studio behind them.

So, it's not so much that its a Goddamn fucking unamerican fucking censorship board, it's that its a fucking censorship board that fucking increases the oligarchical power of the "run exclusively by fat disgusting rapists" "Big" movie studios.

People think this isn't an issue, but most of what people fucking spend their time on come from only a few outlets. When those fucking outlets start fucking censoring what's said, they shape the minds of the fucking people. Fuck THAT.

Posted by: Not Sure at June 01, 2020 10:57 AM (gqvXZ)

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