Gun Thread: Never, Ever Volunteer for Anything Edition! [Weasel]

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Hold my beer! (not an M1917)

Welp, I've been promising you a video of the Model of 1917 for a while and I was able to get down to the farm for a couple of days this past week and do some shooting with it. Let's take a look at that below, shall we?

Model of 1917

As I mentioned in the video, when I bought this rifle it still had the original barrel, dated 1919, which was toast. After a thorough cleaning I could tell it was a mess and a quick trip to the range confirmed it. I looked around and decided the Civilian Marksmanship Program Custom Shop in Anniston, Alabama was the best bet for having this classic rifle rebarreled, and they did an outstanding job. It's not quick, but the cost was very reasonable and I cannot say enough good things about the experience. The way it worked was to fill out a work order and send it in to be placed on a waiting list, which at the time was about six months. Right on schedule, they called to give me a service order number and authorized me to send in the rifle. At that time I inquired about custom chambering, and was told it was no problem. I sent in the rifle and the chamber specifications I wanted, and a few weeks later I had the rifle back with a new parkerized Criterion barrel, and the chamber cut exactly as I had requested.

Although in the video I was shooting surplus Lake City M2 Ball ammunition manufactured in 1969, I have worked up a custom handload for this rifle and as I recall without too much effort it was holding right around 1.5 MOA. The limiting factor, of course, is my marksmanship and more specificaly my old eyeballs. I had briefly thought about competing in Service Rifle Matches with the gun, but ultimately never pursued it, and just enjoy shooting it for funsies now. If you ever have a chance to own or shoot one of these classics, don't miss the opportunity!

Here's a vintage photo of some guys and an M1917.

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Some guys with a M1917

Oh! And a followup on the Oakley glasses. They worked fine and I would recommend them. The model is M Frame Strike and Oakley currently has them discounted on their website at about $100. Again, that's sort of pricey for a pair of plastic glasses which probably cost 7 cents to produce, but the lenses are very clear and I noticed only a minimal tendency for fogging. With a Dorkiness Coefficient of .3 they're not likly to chase off all of the range babes either, so as long as I can keep from scratching them all to hell, I think they're a decent investment.

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So our pal Jim Sunk New Dawn recently took a trip to the range, and here is his report:

A quick 25 rounds, before lunch today. Taurus Model 85, Total Titanium, chambered in .38 Spl +P. Two-inch barrel, fixed sights. Winchester-Western 148 gr. Full Wadcutter, Hollow Base target loads. 7 yards, all rounds fired double action. 6 minutes, 37 seconds on the PACT timer, first shot to last.

Range Report. There were no Rental pocket guns available, they had all been sold, at premium prices, to desperate, grasping customers. I had planned to fire another 25 rounds from a Kel Tec .32 or .380. Next time to the range, I'll break out the Beretta .32 Tomcat, and give it a whirl.

Lesson One: It's not that snubbies aren't as accurate as their larger kin.

Lesson Two: Develop SKILL with the mouseguns, and build CONFIDENCE in what they can do, if skillfully employed.

Lesson Three: Don't consider yourself "under-gunned" with one. Consider the bad guy OVER-SURPRIZED at the effectiveness of your defense.

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Jim SND 25 rounds at 7 yds

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Let's take a closer look

Words of Wisdom, brother! In addition to being an all around great Moron, you can see that Jim is one hell of a shooter. Nicely done, and thanks for sending this in!

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Last week our pal Sua Sponte was breaking in a new rifle and trying various .22LR ammo. This week he was back on the range and let's see what he had to say.

Had some time to go another round of testing and nothing could be more enjoyable than being out in the open and seeing what this Ruger Precision can do and with what ammunition.

Probably spent about four hours out on my range today and there are a few things I've learned:

-Work on my trigger control
-Work on my breathing
-Relax and enjoy
-Expectation management

This! Absolutely a thousand times this! If you want to improve your shooting, you have to have a plan during practice at the range, and it helps to remind yourself what it is periodically. Focus on the fundamentals, but have fun and manage expectations. I cannot overemphasize this enough. Everyone has a bad day at the range. It happens. I have seen competitors make a bad shot and come completely unglued as a result, effectively taking themselves out of the match. They may have made a mistake in their fundamentals, but they also stopped having fun and were certainly not managing expectations. Relax.

Sorry for the mini-rant, and back to Sua Sponte's report...

Out of the table today, along with what I've compiled the past few weeks, I would have to say the ratings for which ammunition I think best performs with the Ruger Precision, just my opinion - your mileage may vary, for precision shooting would be:

1-CCI Mini Mag 40g CPRN
2-Blazer 40G LRN (surprisingly)
3-Winchester Sub Sonic 43G LHP (another surprise)
4-Federal Automatch 40G LRN
5-Aguila SE 40G CPRN
6-Aguila SE 40G LRN
7-Winchester Super-X 40G CPHP (I just could not get this stuff to tighten up)
8-Remington Golden Bullet 40G PRN (This has not performed well at all. It's decent ammo, but, probably stretching it to fulfill a precision role)

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I think the next step is to zero down on the top six and then maybe go on to a top three out of that. Once I accomplish that, will move out to 75 yards, narrow those down and then see what they'll do at 100 yards. Regardless of how things turn out, I'm having a blast and I do believe that installing the Tandemkross Game Changer comp has helped. But, sometimes firearms can be picky with ammo, even used in the same name brand firearm. If anyone has suggestions on any ammo they have tried that performs well at distance, would love to hear.

I've included two that I did take out to 75 yards, which I had time to do more but it was getting dark.

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Aguila SE 40gr 75 yds


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Blazer 40gr 75 yds

Thanks for the report, Sua Sponte, nicely done. Look forward to seeing how it goes at 100!

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Virginia
Remember earlier this year when more than 20,000 gun owners and gun rights supporters attended a rally in Richmond, protesting infringements on their Second Amendmenton rights, and burned the city to the ground?

Yeah. Neither do I.

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ATTENTION NoVaMoMe 2020!!

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Sad people who cannot make the new NoVaMoMe date of August 29th

Due the Chinese Cooties hysteria in Virginia, the NoVaMoMe 2020 has been postponed until Saturday, August 29th. The time and location remain the same. If you haven't already, please check your email and let the Central Planning Committee know if you are able to make the new date. If not, your registration fee will be refunded and we will open your spot to those on the wait list. Questions? Just email us at NoVaMoMe2020 at gee mail dot com. Thank you!

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***Mail Bag***

This week we have an unidentified photo from our pal redc1c4. Amazing.

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:00 PM




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1 First

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 31, 2020 07:00 PM (VcFUs)

2 Calling the corgies

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 31, 2020 07:00 PM (VcFUs)

3 They been hollered at

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 31, 2020 07:01 PM (VcFUs)

4 What's the best gun to defend against cows?

Posted by: Zombie British guy killed by a herd of cows at May 31, 2020 07:01 PM (Tnijr)

5 Missed a hat trick by that ( ) much

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:01 PM (ZCEU2)

6 Fourth?

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 31, 2020 07:01 PM (VcFUs)

7 Time to read the content, thank you for the gub thread, sir.

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 31, 2020 07:01 PM (VcFUs)

8 Gun thread!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 07:02 PM (axyOa)

9 What's the best gun to defend against cows?

A blunderbuss.

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at May 31, 2020 07:02 PM (EgshT)

10 Got willowed.

Love ya weasel!



I cannot believe we're about to see another fucking night of absolute lawlessness.

Almost like the lib leaders are dragging their feet in deploying the fucking army to stop this.

All I hear is how this is all Trumps fault. They don't want to stop it.

How much longer will normal Americans put up with this??

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:03 PM (+b1ew)

11 AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:03 PM (+b1ew)

Wait for 100 ...
: -))

Posted by: Adriane the Deja Sorta Vu Critic ... at May 31, 2020 07:04 PM (LPnfS)

12 Very nice Weasel.

Think the mystery is a very ornamented Smith and Wesson Model 3. Beautiful.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 31, 2020 07:04 PM (A5zUN)

13 Hi Everybody! Welcome!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:04 PM (MVjcR)

14 Sorry. I'm pissed and it's unprecedented times.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:04 PM (+b1ew)

15 It's a beautiful wheel gun. Me want.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:05 PM (+b1ew)

16

Gun sales are going to go through the roof due to the peaceful protests and cops being handcuffed to shut this down

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 07:05 PM (hjWzb)

17 Like to see a full picture, the bit we see of the grip looks beautiful.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 31, 2020 07:05 PM (A5zUN)

18 Afternoon all.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 31, 2020 07:06 PM (JFqVi)

19 That's a nice looking shooter.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 31, 2020 07:07 PM (myjNJ)

20 Who was the poster with the 10 mile rule?

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 31, 2020 07:07 PM (nFRLh)

21 WeaselDog!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 31, 2020 07:07 PM (rBtIz)

22 That is a pretty wheel gun.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2020 07:07 PM (J4bq5)

23 Wow!! Good content!!
Keeping me busy!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 31, 2020 07:08 PM (uyKdz)

24 Note to self: don't piss off Jim.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 07:08 PM (KnJdm)

25 i have no idea what the pistol is, and there was no info on the blog where i found it poasted.

i *think* it was "It Ain't Holy Water"...


https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7acqem5

Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 07:09 PM (PnmdJ)

26 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at May 31, 2020 07:09 PM (arxmH)

27 14 Sorry. I'm pissed and it's unprecedented times.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:04 PM (+b1ew)
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No worries. I don't mind if you all talk about current events, just think before you hit post, and no fighting in the comments. 'Kay?

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:09 PM (4FPVQ)

28 My unit deployed early from Germany to Desert Storm. One of the Cav Troops next to us had been there a few days ahead of us. As we were putting up tents and cots, they were doing bayonet drills.
A couple hundred guys slashing blades and shouting loudly was pretty damned impressive.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 07:09 PM (axyOa)

29 I do feel a little silly, but last night I decided it was equally silly under the circumstances to have ammunition in boxes and empty clips. I took care of that problem.


Posted by: FlimFlammed at May 31, 2020 07:10 PM (ZTDnL)

30 Ah, the Eddystone M1917. Mine was made in December, 1918. The barrel is still about 50% and she shoots just fine. All original.

The Brits called them P1917 I believe and they got a bunch back in the day.

Simpler rear sights when compared to a Springfield 1903.

Heavy, robust rifle and the bolt is a little tricky to disassemble, you have to do the coin thingee.

Bayonets are a hard find and quite valuable.

Most were sportierized by deer hunters over the years, and the receiver and barrels are prized for their ruggedness and accuracy so if you see one still in her military kit, grab it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2020 07:11 PM (Z+IKu)

31 Nice shooting Jim is right

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:11 PM (ZCEU2)

32 So by declaring Antifa a terrorist iorganization s it true that:
Soros needs to be worried?
People throwing bail for protesters are accomplices after the fact?
Sanctuary cities are open targets?

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 31, 2020 07:11 PM (nFRLh)

33 Note to self: don't piss off Jim.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 07:08 PM (KnJdm)

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or, at the very least, stay out of pistol range...


Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 07:11 PM (PnmdJ)

34 I went through 6 Western states this past week. ID and AZ are by far the best for travel with concealed carry. NV is a close third. OR fourth with constitutional open carry.

We GTFO of CA, fortunately, just as things were getting spicy.

Stay alert out there, morons in blue locales. And be armed, always.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 07:11 PM (KnJdm)

35 Did not the WW2 guys file down the WW1 guy m1917 bayonet from 18 or 24 inches down to 12 to 14 inches?

Though I read that

Posted by: Yo! at May 31, 2020 07:11 PM (arxmH)

36 I have a sportized P17 Enfield. The job was very well done.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmNyxLRj


I could take and add some more photos if there were any interest.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2020 07:12 PM (yQpMk)

37 Weasel, did you ever do a piece on the current argument over whether the 1911 platform is outdated?

I found it quite interesting with both sides making good points.

Lots of people argue Glock, no hammer with trigger safety vs 1911, hammer with thumb safety catch.

Mag cap, etc.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:12 PM (+b1ew)

38
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2020 07:12 PM (Iq8IA)

39 36
I have a sportized P17 Enfield. The job was very well done.



https://flic.kr/s/aHsmNyxLRj





I could take and add some more photos if there were any interest.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2020 07:12 PM (yQpMk)
Gorgeous rifle!

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 31, 2020 07:12 PM (D3cJf)

40 Great video, weasel.

Thanks.

By the way, shot my Bersa Thunder and decided that while it shoots pretty well, the controls leave a bit to be desired.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:13 PM (WEBkv)

41 34
I went through 6 Western states this past week. ID and AZ are by far the
best for travel with concealed carry. NV is a close third. OR fourth
with constitutional open carry.



We GTFO of CA, fortunately, just as things were getting spicy.



Stay alert out there, morons in blue locales. And be armed, always.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 07:11 PM (KnJdm)
And don't be foolish going looking for trouble. But be ready should trouble find you.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (D3cJf)

42 redc1c4's engraved revolver appears to be a S&W Model 3, also known as a S&W Schofield Revolver.

I'd not be surprised were it chambered in .44 Russian.

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Thanks for running my Range Report, boss! I sure do enjoy that 11.5 oz. Taurus Total Titanium. With it's ported barrel, the recoil is actually quite subdued.

Taurus quit making the Total Titanium Model 85, about a decade ago. They're running right round $900 to $1,000 now, *if* you can find one.

But if you can, then BUY. It's a gem!



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (QzJWU)

43 Note to self: don't piss off Jim.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 07:08 PM (KnJdm)

Actually, you don't MESS around with Jim
https://youtu.be/QF_mUtno-p8

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (uyKdz)

44 Love the 1917s, Mr. Weasel.

I have been mulling a custom sporter based on a 1917, as there are already tons on sporterized 1917s out there pretty cheap, without having to defile an original.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (KnJdm)

45 Question about home defense shotgun: I live in a very blue part of the state and while I have escape routes nearby to bug out to the country, if someone starts coming thru my door or windows its time for plan B....
After visiting my local gun store, they recommended a Mossberg Maverick 88 20". I saw someone here recommend an 18.5" shotgun but I kinda like the idea of two more shells before running out. Thoughts or suggestions or advice? Thanks!

Posted by: NC Ref at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (AOmVJ)

46 37 Weasel, did you ever do a piece on the current argument over whether the 1911 platform is outdated?

I found it quite interesting with both sides making good points.

Lots of people argue Glock, no hammer with trigger safety vs 1911, hammer with thumb safety catch.

Mag cap, etc.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:12 PM (+b1ew)
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No, not really. I'm a 1911 guy!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (4FPVQ)

47 redc1c4, that gun is a thing of absolute beauty.

That is craftsmanship at its finest.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (dtTz3)

48 What's the best gun to defend against cows?


Bullpup. Duh.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (gd9RK)

49 oh, i volunteered a few times in uniform, but that was when i saw an advantage to what i signed up for, vs my other options.

AT in support of a school in garrison in May, vice going to Irwin or Club Bob in July or August?

i'm in.

go to Boise ID for another school support, vice the Club Bob/Irwin option again? no brainer.

things like that. when you have as many years TIG as a Specialist as i did, you look at things differently from the young troops.

Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 07:15 PM (PnmdJ)

50 PS, I love snubs and find them them be just as accurate as their bigger cousins. I have a SW airweight revolver and love it.

Center mass at 100, pinhole at 25

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:15 PM (+b1ew)

51 Interestingly, my sporter has lost it's serial number in the conversion so it is just traded as Pre68 on all the paperwork.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2020 07:15 PM (yQpMk)

52 Nice production value on the new vid, Weasel.
We got yer Picture in Picture goin' on.
Nice fades in between scenes.
Volume got a little low at the 8 minute mark or so, but I have bad ears, so, no problem.
You used a term for which I am unfamiliar.
You said the old barrel was "keyholing" or like.
Please to explain.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 07:15 PM (w7KSn)

53 Ace, if you're around...


https://rebelcreamery.com/


If you can find it, you're welcome.

Posted by: Citizen at May 31, 2020 07:15 PM (ldmQR)

54 And apropos of an earlier thread question, they are sort of pricey but a great auto shotgun for a wide audience is the Remington VersaMax - takes all three shell lengths so good in the post zombie take what you can get ammo world.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 31, 2020 07:15 PM (nFRLh)

55 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:13 PM (WEBkv)
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Thank you! I swear I'm going to get the audio right on the shooting part one of these days!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:16 PM (4FPVQ)

56 No, not really. I'm a 1911 guy!
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (4FPVQ)

Me too. Just got my first Ed Brown. Love it.

Just thought it an interesting topic, sort of like 9mm vs 45 acp

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:16 PM (+b1ew)

57 Weasel, did you ever do a piece on the current argument over whether the 1911 platform is outdated?



I found it quite interesting with both sides making good points.



Lots of people argue Glock, no hammer with trigger safety vs 1911, hammer with thumb safety catch.



Mag cap, etc.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:12 PM (+b1ew)

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No, not really. I'm a 1911 guy!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM


1911 pistol is best pistol. This is a Known Thing.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 31, 2020 07:17 PM (rBtIz)

58 How much longer will normal Americans put up with this??
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:03 PM


In Texas, they're beginning not to. There are armed patriots protecting The Alamo. There are cops in-between them and the protesters. A Karen is amazed that the cops are protecting the protectors, citing "white privilege".

They're not, you dumb*ss. They're protecting the rioters.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 07:17 PM (DMUuz)

59 Once someone learn how to shoot a m1911 they may never shoot a Glock

Also the Vietnam guy bitching about the 1911 were shooting WW2 pistols

The US never purchased a 1911 after 1945 for mass use

Posted by: Yo! at May 31, 2020 07:17 PM (arxmH)

60 Question about home defense shotgun: I live in a
very blue part of the state and while I have escape routes nearby to bug
out to the country, if someone starts coming thru my door or windows
its time for plan B....
After visiting my local gun store, they
recommended a Mossberg Maverick 88 20". I saw someone here recommend an
18.5" shotgun but I kinda like the idea of two more shells before
running out. Thoughts or suggestions or advice? Thanks!


Posted by: NC Ref at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (AOmVJ)

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you never have enough ammo... and the 1.5" difference only comes into play if you are trying to clear a building.

since you need a team to do that safely, and you just want to shoot and scoot out of there, more ammo is moar better, IMHO.

like many things firearm related, it all comes down to personal needs and preferences.

Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 07:17 PM (PnmdJ)

61 Hi Weasel! Had to educate a youngun today about media and different forms of government. She actually asked me if someone was trying to manipulate us, and if we wouldn't be better with socialism. And she is from Minnesota, has grown children. How can a person get this old and be this unaware? I know, I know.

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2020 07:17 PM (XhWtx)

62 Would love to have a bayonette lug on my ar-10. But it would need to fit my ka-bar.

Basic at ft. Bliss, we didnt get bayonette training or pugil stick training. The drills wanted us to have rifle skills because we all were destined for Nike Hercules batteries in Germany and this lost of tower guard duty to protect the warheads from the commie east germans.

God that was a fun 16 weeks. Kid one class behind me became the FORSCOM SGM.

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 31, 2020 07:18 PM (VcFUs)

63 365 Do any of you gun nuts know if there is a reliable semi-auto shotgun? I think it could come in handy.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 31, 2020 01:25 PM

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:18 PM (ZCEU2)

64 Thank you! I swear I'm going to get the audio right on the shooting part one of these days!
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:16 PM (4FPVQ)
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Yeah, you'd think after 3 or 4 videos you'd have it nailed by now!

Seriously, though, you've a pleasant voice and demeanor which is great for this kind of thing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:18 PM (WEBkv)

65 37 bite your tongue

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:18 PM (ZCEU2)

66 @16: "Gun sales are going to go through the roof due to the peaceful protests and cops being handcuffed to shut this down."

Looting in my neighborhood has convinced me to take all necessary steps to properly licensed and trained for concealed carry, and probably look into buying an evil wicked assault rifle too.

Once the previously unimaginable -- repetitive looting right outside my apartment window -- becomes not only possible, but very real, then it's time to start thinking about what else might go wrong in the future.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 07:19 PM (+oVP5)

67 WOO HOO! GUNZZZZ THREAD!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 31, 2020 07:19 PM (NWiLs)

68
You used a term for which I am unfamiliar.
You said the old barrel was "keyholing" or like.
Please to explain.
Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 07:15 PM (w7KSn)
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Thanks!
I had at least one unnecessary fade, and I keep forgetting to switch microphones for the narrative part before I start shooting.
Keyholing: when the rifling at the muzzle is worn out and does not stabilize the bullet, which hits the target sideways. Looks like a little keyhole.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:19 PM (4FPVQ)

69 63 365 Do any of you gun nuts know if there is a reliable semi-auto shotgun? I think it could come in handy.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 31, 2020 01:25 PM
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:18 PM (ZCEU2)


Beretta 1301 Comp is what I went with.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:19 PM (+b1ew)

70 Had to watch the vid first. Way cool, Weasel

Now, back to the rest of the content

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at May 31, 2020 07:19 PM (8h+YG)

71 1911 pistol is best pistol. This is a Known Thing.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 31, 2020 07:17 PM


True. And the best 1911 is a Les Baer.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 07:19 PM (DMUuz)

72 You said the old barrel was "keyholing" or like.

Please to explain.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 07:15 PM (w7KSn)

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bullet so unstable from the weak rifling, that it was tumbling when it got to the target, and went through sideways...

Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (PnmdJ)

73
Just thought it an interesting topic, sort of like 9mm vs 45 acp
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:16 PM (+b1ew)
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Sure is, let me look into it. Thank you!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (4FPVQ)

74 How about plain old lithium grease?


Anyone ever use it on their guns?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (dLLD6)

75 Once you get used to a 1911 trigger, it's really difficult to like anything else.

Glocks make really good guns, but they tend to lack in the trigger department.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (WEBkv)

76 No, not really. I'm a 1911 guy!


Me too. When glocks and 9s have survived 100 years of 2Lt, then I'll get one.

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (VcFUs)

77 74 How about plain old lithium grease?


Anyone ever use it on their guns?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (dLLD6)

Keeps them from manic episodes.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (NWiLs)

78 RE: That first pic; when I was a kid you could go down to out local surplus store and buy those 1917 bayonets for a dollar. I bet if you can find one now they would run some bucks.

Posted by: Vic at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM (mpXpK)

79 Oops, sorry, assault weapon, not rifle, just in case anyone gets persnickety about terminology.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM (+oVP5)

80 1911 pistol is best pistol. This is a Known Thing.


Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 31, 2020 07:17 PM (rBtIz)

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especially when chambered in 9mm...


Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM (PnmdJ)

81 There are some youtube channels with the semi (maybe fully) automatic shotguns, at least one.
I saw it shooting slugs.
Damn thing wants to creep up after every round.
I'll chime in on 1911 vs Glock argument, since I own both, in .45.
I just can't get the accuracy on the 1911 that I get on the Glock.
Maybe it is the particular piece, no idea.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM (w7KSn)

82 PS, I love snubs and find them them be just as accurate as their bigger cousins. I have a SW airweight revolver and love it.



Center mass at 100, pinhole at 25

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:15 PM


Agreed. I had (before The Incident With The Canoe) a nice SW 640 centennial. Loaded with 158 gr +Ps, it was a nice little shooter, and an excellent carry gun.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM (rBtIz)

83 Jim SND 25 rounds at 7 yds

Ok, we don't have to worry about defending Jim's part of town.

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM (OFJlJ)

84 4 What's the best gun to defend against cows?
Posted by: Zombie British guy killed by a herd of cows at May 31, 2020 07:01 PM (Tnijr)

A dairyenger. Duh.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM (KnJdm)

85 71 1911 pistol is best pistol. This is a Known Thing.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 31, 2020 07:17 PM

True. And the best 1911 is a Les Baer.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 07:19 PM (DMUuz)

Les makes great stuff. So does Ed Brown.

I've shot a lot of guns in my...29 years. I've never shot a better handgun than his 1911 executive.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM (+b1ew)

86 Gun sales are going to go through the roof due to the peaceful protests and cops being handcuffed to shut this down
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No shit. I got advice from the Horde today on a semi-auto shotgun. All three of the links I had were sold out in ~1.5 hours. I guess I'd rather go over the counter w/a local shop anyway, even if it costs more.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 31, 2020 07:22 PM (7Fj9P)

87 especially when chambered in 9mm...


Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM (PnmdJ)
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Prettiest handgun ever built is the Browning Hi Power.

The magazine disconnect still sucks, though.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:22 PM (WEBkv)

88 Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2020 07:17 PM (XhWtx)
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Howdy amigo!
Oh brother!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:23 PM (4FPVQ)

89 "And a followup on the Oakley glasses. They worked fine and I would recommend them. The model is M Frame Strike and Oakley currently has them discounted on their website at about $100. Again, that's sort of pricey for a pair of plastic glasses which probably cost 7 cents to produce, but the lenses are very clear and I noticed only a minimal tendency for fogging. With a Dorkiness Coefficient of .3 they're not likly to chase off all of the range babes either, so as long as I can keep from scratching them all to hell, I think they're a decent investment."

But you left out the most important information. Are they made in China?

Posted by: WTP at May 31, 2020 07:23 PM (HA2LH)

90 Brave Sir Robin, a pawn shop could be your friend.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 07:23 PM (dtTz3)

91 So. are we ready to move from "Buy Ammo" to "Keep a piece on you and a long gun in 10 seconds reach?"

I live rock throwing distance (literally, like an underhand throw) from the city limits and, yeah, a protest this weekend. About a 15 min walk from the nearest bus stop servicing The Hood.

Not really bunkered in, but I did clear fields of fire some yard work this weekend. Thinking of getting a night sight just in case for those pesky raccoons that go shopping in my trash dumpster.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 31, 2020 07:23 PM (di1hb)

92 77 74 How about plain old lithium grease?


Anyone ever use it on their guns?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (dLLD6)
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That's pretty much what the stuff in the little syringe is.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:24 PM (4FPVQ)

93 1911 and 9mm


Does. Not. Compute.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:24 PM (+b1ew)

94 By the way, weasel, did you get the email I sent?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:24 PM (WEBkv)

95 Keyholing is also when at long range the bullet starts to go subsonic

Posted by: Yo! at May 31, 2020 07:24 PM (arxmH)

96 Nice shooting Jim is right

Posted by: Skip


Concur !

Posted by: JT at May 31, 2020 07:24 PM (arJlL)

97 Posted by: McGyver at May 31, 2020 07:19 PM (8h+Y
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Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:25 PM (4FPVQ)

98 Prettiest handgun ever built is the Browning Hi Power.



The magazine disconnect still sucks, though.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:22 PM


*sigh*

I still need to get one of those for the collection.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 31, 2020 07:25 PM (rBtIz)

99 > "I cannot believe we're about to see another ****ing night of absolute lawlessness."

Maybe this breaking news will will cheer you up a bit:

AG Barr has instructed all 56 Regional Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTF) to search out and apprehend ANTIFA leaders across the country.

https://tinyurl.com/y7vabc6j

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 31, 2020 07:25 PM (YKvuL)

100 Duncanthrax, Thank You for the info about the Alamo.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 07:25 PM (dtTz3)

101 Glock or 1911? Embrace the power of 'and'. Now you have learned, young padawan.

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2020 07:25 PM (XhWtx)

102 ..After visiting my local gun store, they recommended a Mossberg Maverick 88 20". I saw someone here recommend an 18.5" shotgun but I kinda like the idea of two more shells before running out. Thoughts or suggestions or advice? Thanks!

Posted by: NC Ref at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (AOmVJ)



There are several companies who make magazine extension tubes & packages for that gun.

It's VERY simple. Unscrew the existing magazine cap. Remove magazine spring and magazine plug. (that plug is what limits your mag to 2 rounds, to comply with Federal Waterfowl hunting laws). Now your magazine holds FOUR rounds.

But don't just put the spring and cap back on. NOW you install the aftermarket magazine extension tube, and the longer magazine spring it comes with.

On THAT, you close it up with your original magazine cap, or the one that comes with the kit.

Now your magazine holds SIX or SEVEN rounds.

Pro-Tip. Find the short Reduced Recoil shells, and test them in your gun. If they feed reliably, then use them.

Now your seven shell magazine holds NINE or TEN rounds. And the gun doesn't kick quite as hard.

All with your 18.5" Mossberg 88 rig.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 07:25 PM (QzJWU)

103 Eye protection for shooting: I buy the Remington's, in bulk, because cleaning a plastic lens seems to not work very well for me.

I toss and pull out a new pair.

They're decent.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (WEBkv)

104 How about plain old lithium grease?


Anyone ever use it on their guns?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (dLLD6)


Except for a couple of weapons, I just about use nothing but automotive products. Brake cleaner, Mobile 1 and grease. They are made for machines under high temps and pressures so they fit the bill for me at a much reduced price over "gun" products.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (yQpMk)

105 AG Barr has instructed all 56 Regional Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTF) to search out and apprehend ANTIFA leaders across the country.

https://tinyurl.com/y7vabc6j
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 31, 2020 07:25 PM (YKvuL


Good. It's a start.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (+b1ew)

106 Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:18 PM (ZCEU2)
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Thanks for looking out for me, man. I owes you a solid!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (7Fj9P)

107 Jim did that in 37sec with 5 reloads? Damn

Posted by: Jean at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (B7KlG)

108 63
365 Do any of you gun nuts know if there is a reliable semi-auto shotgun? I think it could come in handy.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 31, 2020 01:25 PM

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:18 PM (ZCEU2)

I used to have a Barretta 20 gage that was very reliable. I currently have a Remington Model 1100 but it tend to jam a lot. I clean out the action and it works for a while but then it will start jamming again. If we had a reliable gunsmith arund here I would take it to them and see if they could figure out the problem.

Posted by: Vic at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (mpXpK)

109 Les makes great stuff. So does Ed Brown.

I've shot a lot of guns in my...29 years. I've never shot a better handgun than his 1911 executive.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM


In truth, Brown, Wilson, Baer, Nighthawk all make excellent 1911s. A few years ago, Baers were significantly less expensive than a Brown or Wilson; not so much the case now.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (DMUuz)

110 redc1c4, that gun is a thing of absolute beauty.

That is craftsmanship at its finest.
Posted by: Ben Had

It sure is !

Hiya Ben Had !

Posted by: JT at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (arJlL)

111 Oh, and Gunga la Gunga !

Posted by: JT at May 31, 2020 07:27 PM (arJlL)

112 Wow--incredible video, Weasel. I loved seeing you shoot and hearing about the history and refurbishing of the gun.

Posted by: Ladyl--now mask-free! at May 31, 2020 07:27 PM (TdMsT)

113 How about plain old lithium grease?





Anyone ever use it on their guns?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (dLLD6)

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That's pretty much what the stuff in the little syringe is.


Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:24 PM

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I used to use it and switched 20 years ago to Ballistol. Never looked back and never have had a single issue with it.


If it was good enough for the Germans from 1905 through 1945, it was good enough for me.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 31, 2020 07:27 PM (JUOKG)

114
But you left out the most important information. Are they made in China?
Posted by: WTP at May 31, 2020 07:23 PM (HA2LH)
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Probably.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:28 PM (4FPVQ)

115 87 especially when chambered in 9mm...


Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM (PnmdJ)
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Prettiest handgun ever built is the Browning Hi Power.

The magazine disconnect still sucks, though.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:22 PM (WEBkv)


When I was a lad, the policy in my unit was your could deploy with a POW (Personally Owned Weapon). Ammo had to be NATO, of course and we had 9mm in our basic load (MP-5s in the Arms Room).

EVERYONE had a Hi-Power (well, except that guy in B Co with a Model 29. He had to pack his own ammo), because big mag. I had a Browning BDA (SIG 220 in 9mm, re-badged Browning), because mag disconnect.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 31, 2020 07:28 PM (di1hb)

116 @99: "AG Barr has instructed all 56 Regional Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTF) to search out and apprehend ANTIFA leaders across the country."

I'm guessing most of Antifa "leadership" has been just as serious about communication security as the Occupy Wall Street folks were serious about personal hygiene, good catering, and campground cleanup.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 07:28 PM (+oVP5)

117 Now your seven shell magazine holds NINE or TEN rounds. And the gun doesn't kick quite as hard.
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Holy crap, this place is amazing!
Thank you all!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 31, 2020 07:28 PM (7Fj9P)

118 Hi right back at ya JT, Hope you are well.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 07:29 PM (dtTz3)

119 112 Wow--incredible video, Weasel. I loved seeing you shoot and hearing about the history and refurbishing of the gun.
Posted by: Ladyl--now mask-free! at May 31, 2020 07:27 PM (TdMsT)
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Thank you, Ladyl!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:29 PM (4FPVQ)

120 @32...not that easy. "Antifa" as an organization is tough to define. But, the most important aspect of this is the priority it sets on defining antifa, and getting after its leaders once identified. Obama era FBI and holdovers didn't prioritize domestic left wing violence, saw it as a local issue at best. Not many resources out into the who's who, what's what of antifa. But the info is out there, and now it's a priority. Barr's announcement of joint task forces is very interesting. Immediately, in the domestic context, you might think FBI, DEA, ATF, state and local authorities making up those task forces. Officially putting the "terrorist" label on the target may open the aperture a bit on participating federal organizations. Lots and lots of people with a lot of experience looking at foreign terrorist groups will for the first time be picking apart antifa, antifa-friendly and antifa-curious groups. These little shits, and the lawyers, 501(c)s, PACs, and oppo research firms that support them wanted a promotion to the big leagues. They've succeeded. Best of luck to them. They'll need it.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 31, 2020 07:29 PM (ja/kn)

121 Anyone here with specific knowledge about Remington Model 12C .22 rifles? Curious about specific history. Done a good bit of google research and while there isa good bit of info, when I try to find specifics it seems like people are just BS'ing.

Posted by: WTP at May 31, 2020 07:29 PM (HA2LH)

122 I want to see perp walks, trials, and justice delivered to these antifa criminals pronto.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 31, 2020 07:29 PM (ufFY8)

123 94 By the way, weasel, did you get the email I sent?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:24 PM (WEBkv)
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I did. Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:30 PM (4FPVQ)

124 like many things firearm related, it all comes down to personal needs and preferences.


Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 07:17 PM (PnmdJ)



Yep I'm in the moar ammo is better group, have a very defensible staircase where I can hole up and shoot downward if anyone insists on coming upward after I've racked it and made it known there's danger in advancing. Handled the 20" (yeah phrasing) a couple days ago but I wanted to know if there was a good reason to start with 18.5" before I pull the trigger (so to speak). Thanks for your thoughts!

Posted by: NC Ref at May 31, 2020 07:30 PM (AOmVJ)

125 Great job with the video, Weasel. (And of course WeaselDog The Adorable!) I especially appreciated the part on lubricating the bolt.

I have a Model 1917, unaltered but haven't shot it much. What is the range for the lowest setting on the rear sight? Chances are I wouldn't be shooting it more than 200 yards.

Posted by: JTB at May 31, 2020 07:30 PM (7EjX1)

126 Evening, Boss. No Range Report tonight. Conserving ammo. Hit the loading bench instead.
Mrs. Red, having followed the news, allowed me to refamiliarize her with various handguns and the ubiquitous AR-15 pattern rifle.
I do love her.

Posted by: RI Red at May 31, 2020 07:30 PM (fEY/q)

127 Just a little side from the gun tread...The mayor of the nearby city said the looters were highly organized, they knew exactingly what they were going to do. She sounded like a very mad black mama.

Posted by: Colin at May 31, 2020 07:31 PM (B+Lak)

128 CBD, I use lithium grease on my M1s (Garand and carbine). When the specialized gun grease (the red stuff, in the syringe dispenser) runs out soon, I'll use the lithium on my pistols, too.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:31 PM (El6T/)

129 AG Barr has instructed all 56 Regional Joint Terrorism Task Forces
(JTTF) to search out and apprehend ANTIFA leaders across the country.



https://tinyurl.com/y7vabc6j

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 31, 2020 07:25 PM (YKvuL




They better smash those POSs into dust. And Federalize the National Guard in states like Illinois that will sit idly by and send them in to shut this down now. A lot of collar counties in Illinois went Dem in 2018. The looting is now hitting them today. Have Trump send in the Calvary.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 07:31 PM (hjWzb)

130 I did. Thanks!
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:30 PM (4FPVQ)
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I was a bit concerned, because, even though I tried to limit the size of the video file, it still seemed a bit large.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:31 PM (WEBkv)

131 Chocolate Jesus was POTUS for 8 years (Thanx to McClown and Romney) and I thought he solved everything ??? He F**ked it up so bad and now we have to pay they price.....

Posted by: James at May 31, 2020 07:31 PM (qM84C)

132 I might be able to post a range report in the next 2 weeks. My range in NJ only opened up the week before last and was limiting the amount of ports opened. I figured everyone and their mother would be there to finally put some projectiles downrange so I am holding off going until the 2nd week of June. But I will not go on the weekend, I am going to take a day off mid week and hopefully it will not be that crowded.With luck might even meet CBD at the range.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 31, 2020 07:31 PM (uyKdz)

133 Peaceful protest in MN just repeated Reginald Denny and pulled a trucker from his rig and beat him senseless.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:32 PM (+b1ew)

134 AG Barr has instructed all 56 Regional Joint Terrorism Task Forces
(JTTF) to search out and apprehend ANTIFA leaders across the country.




D-A-M-N.

Shit is *SO* real.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2020 07:32 PM (oVJmc)

135 104 How about plain old lithium grease?


Anyone ever use it on their guns?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (dLLD6)

Except for a couple of weapons, I just about use nothing but automotive products. Brake cleaner, Mobile 1 and grease. They are made for machines under high temps and pressures so they fit the bill for me at a much reduced price over "gun" products.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (yQpMk)

I see no difference between my auto lithium grease and my gun lithium grease, except the brand and price.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 07:32 PM (KnJdm)

136 Do any of you gun nuts know if there is a reliable semi-auto shotgun? I think it could come in handy.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

Benelli M1 Super 90, get a straight stock

Posted by: Jean at May 31, 2020 07:32 PM (B7KlG)

137 "AG Barr has instructed all 56 Regional Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTF) to search out and apprehend ANTIFA leaders across the country"

Good. Dead or alive would be better. Now somebody tell that fuckhead Piss Wallace. On TV not 20 minutes ago he was adamant that they are not organized.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 31, 2020 07:32 PM (rnj6q)

138 I have a Model 1917, unaltered but haven't shot it much. What is the range for the lowest setting on the rear sight? Chances are I wouldn't be shooting it more than 200 yards.
Posted by: JTB at May 31, 2020 07:30 PM (7EjX1)
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Thanks JTB!
I think in the down position the battle sight is zeroed for 200yds. The leaf in the UP position starts at 100.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:32 PM (4FPVQ)

139 Bullpup. Duh.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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Not allowed in Yorkshire.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2020 07:33 PM (dP625)

140 @120: "Not many resources out into the who's who, what's what of antifa."

Maybe not a priority, but there's always someone in the federal alphabet soup community that's keeping tabs on domestic agitators of all stripes, so they're most certainly not starting from scratch, and probably not even all that far behind.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 07:33 PM (+oVP5)

141 60
Question about home defense shotgun: I live in a

very blue part of the state and while I have escape routes nearby to bug

out to the country, if someone starts coming thru my door or windows

its time for plan B....
After visiting my local gun store, they

recommended a Mossberg Maverick 88 20". I saw someone here recommend an

18.5" shotgun but I kinda like the idea of two more shells before

running out. Thoughts or suggestions or advice? Thanks!




Posted by: NC Ref at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (AOmVJ)


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you never have enough ammo... and the 1.5" difference only comes into play if you are trying to clear a building.

since you need a team to do that safely, and you just want to shoot and scoot out of there, more ammo is moar better, IMHO.

like many things firearm related, it all comes down to personal needs and preferences.


Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 07:17 PM (PnmdJ)

I opted for a Remington 870 12 Gauge Express Tactical. 18.5" barrel, ghost ring sights. Wanted the pump action for simplicity. Short barrel for working through hallways until I can get out.Want more rounds, put a side saddle on it. Nice piece. Little tough for Mrs. OCiS to shoot, but she can do it.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 31, 2020 07:33 PM (D3cJf)

142 Boy howdy I expect the boom enjoyed by the gun industry since C-19 thing started will now become full-blown '09/'13-style "panic". A silver lining of sorts.

I'm half-musing that maybe by Christmas, there might be some decent sales on barely used CZ-75s, by those who got 'em and don't like 'em, changed their mind, or need Christmas cash - or some combo. My next gun shopping probably won't occur til then.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:33 PM (El6T/)

143 ..Jim did that in 37sec with 5 reloads? Damn

Posted by: Jean at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (B7KlG)



SIX MINUTES, 37 seconds.

Took me about three seconds to squeeze off the first round after the PACT beeped.

I kept a good cadence of shooting. Not slow fire, not a round a second, either.

Worst factor was the poor lighting on the sights. Had to work extra hard to hold a sight picture, there.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 07:33 PM (QzJWU)

144 2 1/2" at 100 yds and he "guesses he's ok with that". With open sights.

If I were to hear a ping! I'd be thrilled.

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2020 07:33 PM (Ypqc1)

145 134
AG Barr has instructed all 56 Regional Joint Terrorism Task Forces

(JTTF) to search out and apprehend ANTIFA leaders across the country.







D-A-M-N.



Shit is *SO* real.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2020 07:32 PM (oVJmc)

Here's why:
Trump says we will designate ANTIFA as a terrorist group. All I can say is that is long overdue.


https://tinyurl.com/ydfbjk6c

Posted by: Vic at May 31, 2020 07:34 PM (mpXpK)

146 "AG Barr has instructed all 56 Regional Joint Terrorism Task Forces
(JTTF) to search out and apprehend ANTIFA leaders across the country"
It moved. Bigly. Thank you God for PDT and AG Barr.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 31, 2020 07:34 PM (D3cJf)

147 Hi right back at ya JT, Hope you are well.
Posted by: Ben Had

I am, thank you !

Posted by: JT at May 31, 2020 07:34 PM (arJlL)

148 Posted by: RI Red at May 31, 2020 07:30 PM (fEY/q
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Nice, Amigo! You have a keeper!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:34 PM (MVjcR)

149 10 Got willowed.

Love ya weasel!



I cannot believe we're about to see another fucking night of absolute lawlessness.

Almost like the lib leaders are dragging their feet in deploying the fucking army to stop this.

All I hear is how this is all Trumps fault. They don't want to stop it.

How much longer will normal Americans put up with this??
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:03 PM (+b1ew)

652 I'm kinda wondering if the blue mayors and governors aren't hoping a 2A abiding citizen strikes back because then it become all Trump and his icky supporters in stereo.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at May 31, 2020 07:27 PM (Xt7n2)

Posted by: Cheriebebe at May 31, 2020 07:35 PM (Xt7n2)

150 Now your seven shell magazine holds NINE or TEN rounds. And the gun doesn't kick quite as hard.



All with your 18.5" Mossberg 88 rig.





Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX



Wow awesome advice I love this place and all y'all. Does that same aftermarket kit work for the 20" to expand the magazine as well? Thanks!

Posted by: NC Ref at May 31, 2020 07:35 PM (AOmVJ)

151 Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 07:21 PM

Read in a magazine probably easily 25 years ago a guy commenting in or after prison said lots of guys there were shot with 9mm, no one was by a 45acp.

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:35 PM (ZCEU2)

152 Weasel, I always look forward to your videos on the gun thread and hope to see a good many more! Wife really likes Weasel Dog!
Range finally reopens on the 3rd so I see range time in my immediate future. Yea! Jeffco Sheriffs office reopens to the public tomorrow so I can get my paperwork in for my concealed carry. And with things getting sporty, I can see another run on the gun stores. Damn if people aren't arming up like crazy.

Posted by: Old Blue at May 31, 2020 07:35 PM (VNmG1)

153 It's the Gun Thread!! Howdy Weasel, and all my fellow gun cranks.
Love the 1917. Mine is November of '18 also, but I suspect it was an NRA sale, as it is near mint. The firing pin and striker have been replaced with Winchester parts, otherwise it is 100% matching Eddystone parts. Second only to my Garand as a favorite shooter.
Great series Weasel. I am a fan sure as heck.
No range trip this week, and I know none in the upcoming week. Install frowney face here...
Have been tinkering with some air pistols to kill some time...

Posted by: Jesse in DC at May 31, 2020 07:35 PM (ouR/N)

154 Another great video Weasel.

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:36 PM (ZCEU2)

155 "Obama era FBI and holdovers didn't prioritize domestic left wing violence, saw it as a local issue at best."

I think they saw it as more of an asset than a local issue. Best case is they turned a blind eye knowing they are fellow travellers...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 31, 2020 07:36 PM (rnj6q)

156 @133: "Peaceful protest in MN just repeated Reginald Denny and pulled a trucker from his rig and beat him senseless."

Police scanner from the same area: "Protester dropped a gun on the bridge and lost it!"

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 07:36 PM (+oVP5)

157 122 I want to see perp walks, trials, and justice delivered to these antifa criminals pronto.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 31, 2020 07:29 PM (ufFY

RICO the entire lot, up through the financiers, and then shit will really get interesting.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 07:36 PM (KnJdm)

158 Got my lithium grease at an unburnt, unlooted AutoZone (topical, temporarily comprehensible dark humor). Also got my NuFinish car wax there, that I add to the walnut shell for tumbling brass (also, mineral spirits).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:36 PM (El6T/)

159 144 2 1/2" at 100 yds and he "guesses he's ok with that". With open sights.

If I were to hear a ping! I'd be thrilled.
Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2020 07:33 PM (Ypqc1)
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It would have been a much nicer looking group if one hadn't leaked out to the left!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:37 PM (MVjcR)

160

This shit was all supposed to go down with Grandma Death as POTUS.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2020 07:37 PM (J4bq5)

161 That was enjoyable! I have not yet opened my crate of Fluffy's I brought from Gods Country to Gov Blackface's dystopia, BUT, I did go get my ammo, which was stashed at a co-orker/freinds place. The SPs on the gate tend to get antsy when they see the back seat filled with ammo, so, better course of valor and all that.

Jim, SND... extra nice. And I got my mouse gun cleaned and with new batteries in the strobe, so as to distract from any disturbance. I'm too old to fight and to fat to run, so..

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at May 31, 2020 07:37 PM (8h+YG)

162 Here's perhaps the best lubrication article I've found:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybks4ee5

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 07:37 PM (DMUuz)

163 Do any of you gun nuts know if there is a reliable semi-auto shotgun? I think it could come in handy.

Ignore everyone else's worthless opinion.

Just go out and get the IWI Tavor TS12 now. And don't bitch and whine about the price. What dollar amount do you put on peace of mind, safety, and the ability to be Billy Bad Ass with a personal Anti-Antifa Streetsweeper?

Posted by: 🐧 at May 31, 2020 07:37 PM (qibYB)

164 I will say all this nonsense plus all the great info on this thread and by Weasel I am going to investigate the range that has opened near our house.
I have my FOID card, Illinois, and the range rents gubs lets you buy ammo and does private "lessons"
I think it's time.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at May 31, 2020 07:37 PM (Xt7n2)

165 If you read that statement from AG Barr, he's letting the ANTIFA perps know that as of now they aren't going to be let out and not charged as has been the MO until now.

We'll see if this is going to be a real decapitation strike that's backed up with prosecutions and prison sentences.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 31, 2020 07:37 PM (YKvuL)

166 It would have been a much nicer looking group if one hadn't leaked out to the left!
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:37 PM (MVjcR)
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It was the shooting glasses, right? Not quite used to them?

Or, can we blame bad shooting on autocucumber?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:38 PM (WEBkv)

167 https://tinyurl.com/yce3lyhs

@CrimeWatchMpls; 1m ago:

"35W was not closed at the time of the incident as it was supposed to be. It had been aired prior to the incident that State didn't have enough resources to get it closed. So somebody fucked up not getting traffic stopped when it was supposed to be. #mpls"

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 07:38 PM (+oVP5)

168 Yeah, I just now got a call from a pal in LE.
He says tonight I should be in security condition 1.
Some of my neighbors have been shooting their guns at night. I never thought much of that, because they used to do it every New Years or July 4.
Now, it is rare, until recently.
Of course, it is illegal. And there are the shot spotters.
I figure some of my neighbors just want to see if the damn thing still works.
I don't mind the pop pop pop.
I mind the brrrt.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 07:39 PM (w7KSn)

169 Besides the rioting by terrorists all over the country, we had some damage to local businesses here in little Manassas. I didn't expect that. It's not like we are a bigger city.

I don't want to start another thread on the riots as such. I mention it only as a reminder to be prepared. I spent part of today double checking my supply of loaded ammo, especially commercial stuff. Also making sure the household guns are lubed and loaded, actions worked (unloaded of course), and making sure everything functions smoothly. And I made sure Mrs. JTB is comfortable with all the different guns around the house.

Posted by: JTB at May 31, 2020 07:39 PM (7EjX1)

170 Do any of you gun nuts know if there is a reliable semi-auto shotgun? I think it could come in handy.



Posted by: Brave Sir Robin



Benelli M1 Super 90, get a straight stock

Posted by: Jean at May 31, 2020 07:32 PM (B7KlG)

The Remington 1100 is a classic semi auto. It is to semis what the 870 is to pumps. I never used one as semi shotguns were not my thing. But if that one hasn't proved its worth over time, I wonder which semi has.

I like double barrels but i am old school.


Posted by: Quint at May 31, 2020 07:39 PM (hHxp2)

171 I've been using Hoppes lithium grease in hunting guns longer than some of you have been alive. No complaints.

It *does*, like all greases, tend to capture residue/dust, but that's why ones cleans ones firearms periodically.

Also, grease is not appropriate to all working surfaces/mechanisms, but you know that, right?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2020 07:39 PM (bk3Sg)

172 Posted by: Old Blue at May 31, 2020 07:35 PM (VNmG1)
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Thank you Old Blue! Nice to have you here. WD says hi to the missus!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:39 PM (4FPVQ)

173 The most laugh-so-as-not-to-cry part of that Virginia 2A rally article?

"Capitol Police said a 21-year-old woman had been arrested and charged with one felony count of wearing a mask in public."

How things have changed.

Posted by: parsimony at May 31, 2020 07:39 PM (X1xq4)

174 All I know is that it would be bittersweet if these asses got onto Miami Beach. All those progressive sjws in there are going to get it good and hard.

Posted by: Floridachick at May 31, 2020 07:40 PM (WqkRF)

175 Gotta learn me something about the 1917. 30-06, right? The "American Enfield", that one?

I have long despaired of the prices for Springfields, but this rifle sounds very appealing too. Caliber is already in the logistics/reloading chain, service rifle, boxes both checked. I imagine they're not giving these away these days, either.

Hmm. Down the road.

Oh - Weasel - re-chambered? How, from what to what?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:40 PM (El6T/)

176
It was the shooting glasses, right? Not quite used to them?

Or, can we blame bad shooting on autocucumber?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:38 PM (WEBkv)
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Tight socks!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:40 PM (MVjcR)

177
The Remington 1100 is a classic semi auto. It is to semis what the 870 is to pumps. I never used one as semi shotguns were not my thing. But if that one hasn't proved its worth over time, I wonder which semi has.
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Used one as a deer gun for years. Always worked. Used high-brass 00's.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 31, 2020 07:40 PM (bk3Sg)

178 Rounding up Antifa could clear out college faculty lounges across this country.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2020 07:41 PM (oVJmc)

179 Trump send in the Calvary.


Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 07:31 PM (hjWzb)

Cavalry, too.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 31, 2020 07:41 PM (ufFY8)

180 Weasel, I haven't had any of the old military bolties, but your videos remind me that they were deadly then and still deadly now.
Yes, Mrs. R is a keeper. If I didn't keep her, I'd be dead in my sleep. And she loves hearing Weasel Dog at the end of the videos.
Besides, I do need a back-up to load mags, etc.
Does Weasel Woman shoot at all?

Posted by: RI Red at May 31, 2020 07:41 PM (fEY/q)

181 Posted by: Jesse in DC at May 31, 2020 07:35 PM (ouR/N
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Thanks!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:42 PM (4FPVQ)

182 45"
Question about home defense shotgun"I spent the money to buy a 20 gauge auto-loader. Twice as much money as a pump shotgun. #3 buck through the gun gave a 12" diameter pattern at 20 yards with a turkey choke. There was very little recoil. Easily 5 shots on target in 3 seconds. Remington green and white box 2 3/4 #3 buckshot, 20 pellets. About 1.5x the energy of a 44mag pistol. Did I mention almost no recoil?

Unlike 00buck, the pellets will not go through an internal dry wall, an external wall, your neighbors external wall and hit your neighbors child.
Of course a 20 yard range, 60 feet, does not exist in most houses. The 12 inch pattern is going to be small at 10 yards (30 feet) or less inside a house. Accuracy will need to be like shooting a rifle. However, 20 pellets will make it difficult to miss something immediately incapacitating.

My Turkey gun has one other advantage. It looks like a hunting gun because it is made for hunting turkeys. The liberal district attorney will find it difficult to describe as an assault weapon.

Posted by: FlimFlammed at May 31, 2020 07:42 PM (ZTDnL)

183 Tight socks!
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:40 PM (MVjcR)
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You wear socks?

Oh, wait, tree farm, crawly pests, so, yeah, socks.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:42 PM (WEBkv)

184 Thanks for running my Range Report, boss! I sure do
enjoy that 11.5 oz. Taurus Total Titanium. With it's ported barrel,
the recoil is actually quite subdued.




Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (QzJWU)

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I second this assessment. Today I ran through 50 rounds, doing a drill I mentioned last week where we had four targets, five rounds and were challenged to hit each target at least once as fast as possible.

We weren't really keeping time, just getting a sense of speed. The Taurus was great for this and while I've always tended to shoot it single action, it did quite well on double, and was fast to boot.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 07:43 PM (cfSRQ)

185 Okay, how stupid Wal-Mart corporate is?

We just had to move all our displayed firearms back into the locked gun room.

Obviously they have never thought how dangerous a properly applied bamboo skewer can be.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 07:43 PM (Iseto)

186 If you read that statement from AG Barr, he's letting the ANTIFA perps know that as of now they aren't going to be let out and not charged as has been the MO until now.

What we should all have learned by now is that the Trump Administration, even with Barr, is a paper tiger. They are the Trey Gowdy of Prosecution - lots of bluster, endless #twoweeks and ZERO, and I mean ZERO prosecutions.

Its failure theater at the DOJ and will be for another 4.5 years.

Its the DOJ's version of the GOP pretending to do something about the border and Obamacare.

Posted by: 🐧 at May 31, 2020 07:43 PM (qibYB)

187 Mike H. I don't think it's technically strictly correct, but it does work - if it slides, grease it, if it turns, oil it I've followed that old rule so far.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:43 PM (El6T/)

188 138 ... "I think in the down position the battle sight is zeroed for 200yds. The leaf in the UP position starts at 100."

Thanks, Weasel. Except for the Garand, I tend to use mild cast bullet loads in my battle rifles and that is trial and error with the rear sights. But I plan to use the model 1917 for standard power rounds. (IMR 4759 is our friend.)

Posted by: JTB at May 31, 2020 07:43 PM (7EjX1)

189 Besides, I do need a back-up to load mags, etc.
Does Weasel Woman shoot at all?
Posted by: RI Red at May 31, 2020 07:41 PM (fEY/q)
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No, not really. She has a few times, to shut me up, but not regularly.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:44 PM (4FPVQ)

190 Regarding the fifth photo, I'm pretty sure that is not how to fill out a crossword puzzle.

Posted by: Emmie at May 31, 2020 07:44 PM (clsJu)

191 Flipping to different news stations, seem protest/ later who can say are going on in lots of cities again. Seen Minneapolis, Chicago, DC, Santa Monica

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:45 PM (ZCEU2)

192 Posted by: Vic at May 31, 2020 07:34 PM (mpXpK)

We've known Antifa was a problem for years.

I find it hard to fathom that we were not ready to drop the hammer on them ALREADY.

I guess its only the KKK and Proud Boys that our Feds were worried about.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 07:45 PM (NgKpN)

193 Posted by: Cheriebebe at May 31, 2020 07:37 PM (Xt7n2)
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Thanks, and good for you! Please let us know how it goes!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:45 PM (4FPVQ)

194 ..Wow awesome advice I love this place and all y'all. Does that same aftermarket kit work for the 20" to expand the magazine as well? Thanks!


Posted by: NC Ref at May 31, 2020 07:35 PM (AOmVJ)



The magazine extension tube kids are model specific as to the 18.5 in. or 20 in. barrels.

It won't hurt anything if your magazine is a wee bit longer than your barrel.

Two round extension on a Remington 870 with 18.5 in. barrel, the magazine protrudes about 1/2 inch past the muzzle.

No worries!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 07:45 PM (QzJWU)

195 It would have been a much nicer looking group if one hadn't leaked out to the left!
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:37 PM


It was that unexpected sound from the temporarily unemployed shelter that distracted you, wasn't it?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 07:45 PM (DMUuz)

196 The Boss was happy to see me bring the Mossberg 500 pump out, with the "home defense ammo" (combo of low-recoil slugs and buckshot). Actually got it out to practice reloading with dummy rounds, but then learned there would be masks required at the tac shotgun match today, and decided not to go. But she likes having it out/about, so out it will stay. Note: not an at-risk location around here.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:45 PM (El6T/)

197 Obviously they have never thought how dangerous a properly applied bamboo skewer can be.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 07:43 PM (Iseto)
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Speaking of guns, I worked for a hardware store that sold guns for a while, then stopped. I looking around a forgotten storage area and ran across some dandy rifles. Rifles I could have walked off with, because I doubt anyone remember they were there.

Probably still there to this day.

No, I don't remember the caliber.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:45 PM (WEBkv)

198 I don't think the 1911 is outdated, but there are some later mods that improve the idea.
I think SIG did them best and paired it nicely with the two piece slide that is pinned together for manufacturing simplicity, but Astra did some very groovy takes on the design as well.

I think for the 1911 locked breech design the 1911 and Sig are the best designs, but I think the future is away from the camming barrel and will be some sort of compliant (bendy) breech block that mimics the action of the Saive design FN-FAL bolt.

(My dream pistol action is a hesitation blow back design that uses a strong localized magnetic field created during firing to hold the breech and barrel together long enough for the bullet to move down the barrel, and if anyone has a clue to what a piezoelectric metal would be best for use as either barrels or breech blocs, please let me know!)

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2020 07:46 PM (WyVLE)

199 128 CBD, I use lithium grease on my M1s (Garand and carbine). When the specialized gun grease (the red stuff, in the syringe dispenser) runs out soon, I'll use the lithium on my pistols, too.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:31 PM (El6T/)


Interesting discussion. I recommend a look at moly grease.

Service-wise, I've used GAA (Grease, Automotive and Artillery) and GMD (Grease, Molybdenum Disulfide). Yep, the use axel grease on the big tubes. GAA (lithium grease) works well in low pressure environs. GMD is better in high pressure. And GMD will last longer, meaning if you forget to or can't lube at the proper interval. That's the moly working after the petroleum and surfactants are gone. Seems like a bit of insurance.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM (di1hb)

200
Oh - Weasel - re-chambered? How, from what to what?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:40 PM (El6T/)
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Still .30-'06, I just wanted a tighter chamber than what you would normally see on a service rifle, so I sent them a chamber print that I wanted them to match.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM (4FPVQ)

201 No, not really. She has a few times, to shut me up, but not regularly.
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:44 PM (4FPVQ)
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My wife is a decent shot, but, zero interest in shooting. Oddly enough, of all the guns she's tried, she likes my 1911 best. And she's on the slender side.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM (WEBkv)

202 @186

Well as I said, we'll see.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM (YKvuL)

203 I like how Jim made a little statue of liberty on his range target. That's some controlled shooting right there.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM (r+sAi)

204 Sorry for the OT, but the riots continue in Philly, and an hour ago, a supervisor decided he wasn't going to keep a patrol car at a looted business. Apparently the city decided they'll let the looters have their way, while the rest of us have to fill out the reports and try to keep the bastards at bay.

My division is getting crushed; a shooting, robberies, carjacking, assaults, and the bosses couldn't care less.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM (VWp7G)

205 The other thing about the Glock is that it strips down for cleaning like a dream.
I could do it in the dark.
1911, better keep an eye on that main spring.
OK, I'll shut up now. LOL

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM (w7KSn)

206 Question about home defense shotgun: I live in a
very blue part of the state and while I have escape routes nearby to bug
out to the country, if someone starts coming thru my door or windows
its time for plan B....
After visiting my local gun store, they
recommended a Mossberg Maverick 88 20". I saw someone here recommend an
18.5" shotgun but I kinda like the idea of two more shells before
running out. Thoughts or suggestions or advice? Thanks!


Posted by: NC Ref at May 31, 2020 07:14 PM (AOmVJ)

I doubt it matters that much for home defense. See if you can shoot them and decide for yourself. I do agree 20 gauge is enough for home defense, along with something like #4 buck. If you must have 12 and 00, then fine too. But the practice will be punishment and I don't fully understand the gain. Now if you are hunting geese, i can see it.

Posted by: Quint at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM (hHxp2)

207 Note one major side benefit to classifying ANTIFA as a terrorist organization is that it becomes a major crime to provide funding for them. So the DOJ can also go after the money men supporting them.

Posted by: Vic at May 31, 2020 07:48 PM (mpXpK)

208 I just wanted a tighter chamber than what you would normally see

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM (4FPVQ)


Doesn't everyone?


Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at May 31, 2020 07:48 PM (ufFY8)

209 Apologies, Weasel. Just wanted to put that out there.

Back to work. God I hate this place.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 31, 2020 07:48 PM (VWp7G)

210
Oh, wait, tree farm, crawly pests, so, yeah, socks.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 07:42 PM (WEBkv)
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I almost always come home with a couple of passengers. I had my doc give me an Rx for doxycycline to take when I get back.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:49 PM (4FPVQ)

211 I have good news and bad news this week.

The good news was that the replacement grips came in for the Astra 300. Not a great fit, but serviceable. I will need to do some custom work.

A quick trip to a secure, undisclosed range proved that this is a MARVELOUS weapon platform. Holy cow.

I mentioned using the Taurus in our self-defense drill, the Astra was freaking amazing. The sights seem unremarkable, but the natural point allowed me to easily find the front sight blade, focus on it and when I raised my hand to point, I was bang on target. It was crazy. I got so cocky I started shooting it single-hand, unsupported and doing rapid fire across the targets. I should have just plain missed, but I was still getting hits!

It was crazy fun to shoot. Snappy little .380, compact, quick recovery, fun as hell. Worth the wait!

But because I can't have nice things, the C96 snapped its firing pin on the first clip of the day. So that kind of sucked.

Still the Astra made up for it.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 07:49 PM (cfSRQ)

212
The other thing about the Glock is that it strips down for cleaning like a dream.

I could do it in the dark.

1911, better keep an eye on that main spring.

OK, I'll shut up now. LOL

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM (w7KSn)

The Hi power is a bear compared to the 1911 on a detail strip. Some of us like the challenge of reassembling a box full of tiny parts, but we have issues.

Posted by: Quint at May 31, 2020 07:49 PM (hHxp2)

213 The other thing about the Glock is that it strips down for cleaning like a dream.

I could do it in the dark.

1911, better keep an eye on that main spring.

OK, I'll shut up now. LOL


Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM

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I once put a 1911 recoil spring dead into the overhead where it stuck because I was not paying attention.


Can't do that with a Glock.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 31, 2020 07:49 PM (JUOKG)

214 Thanks for the update, Wyatt.
I also was warned things could get sporty tonight.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 07:49 PM (w7KSn)

215
It was that unexpected sound from the temporarily unemployed shelter that distracted you, wasn't it?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 07:45 PM (DMUuz)
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Right!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:49 PM (4FPVQ)

216 Godspeed, Wyatt.

What a fucking mess. Bet some of these fucktard mayors are ANTIFA supporters.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 31, 2020 07:50 PM (J4bq5)

217 > Note one major side benefit to classifying ANTIFA as a terrorist organization is that it becomes a major crime to provide funding for them.


So if Antifa are terrorists, does that change the ROE? I mean, for the average guy on the street?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 07:50 PM (iTXRQ)

218 175 Gotta learn me something about the 1917. 30-06, right? The "American Enfield", that one?

I have long despaired of the prices for Springfields, but this rifle sounds very appealing too. Caliber is already in the logistics/reloading chain, service rifle, boxes both checked. I imagine they're not giving these away these days, either.

Hmm. Down the road.

Oh - Weasel - re-chambered? How, from what to what?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:40 PM (El6T/)

You can find previously loved sporterized ones in my neighborhood for $250-400.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 07:51 PM (KnJdm)

219 I have a tube of black lithium grease I like to use.

Someone brought up the rubber bullets police use. CNN just showed one, it looked to be the size of a 30mm round and clear plastic.

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:51 PM (ZCEU2)

220 I got the tool to remove the spring, carefully before breaking down the slide. Learned that one the hard way. Spring took off sideways out of the slide and bent itself. Thank god they are cheap.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 31, 2020 07:51 PM (+b1ew)

221

The Rem 870 Youth in 20 ga is ideal for small ladies and nasty arthritis sufferers, if you want a shotty.

Note that every one I have had has needed the chamber polished for reliable extraction.

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at May 31, 2020 07:51 PM (w3OLr)

222 Glad the Astra 300 is a great little pop-gun

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 07:52 PM (Iseto)

223 NC Ref,

The advantage of the shorter barrel is it is easier to manipulate the gun in the confines of a house. For that purpose, the difference between 20 inches and 18.5 doesn't matter. Go with the one that suits your wishes: more ammo is always good.

Posted by: JTB at May 31, 2020 07:52 PM (7EjX1)

224 I don't know for sure about the Maverick 88 model ,but the Mossberg 500 has a set length magazine.(usually 5 or because the barrel attachment is a bolt permanently installed on the barrel.I thought the Maverick was the same as the 500. Anyway the Rem 870 used to have the easy ability to add a mag extension by simply screwing off the mag cap and replacing it with a tube extension and longer spring. Even that got complicated later as they changed the spring retention plug system with a dent in the side of the mag tube that you had to remove somehow.. I think the Mossberg 590 has easy extension capability, but I've never had one.

Posted by: irright at May 31, 2020 07:52 PM (RVcmP)

225 Evening all

Are the curfews ever going to be enforced or are only barbers going to be arrested.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 07:52 PM (85Gof)

226 >>>Thanks for the update, Wyatt.
I also was warned things could get sporty tonight.


One of my bosses just said, "They abandoned the city." If you live in Philly - literally anywhere in the city - get out, or stay inside and hunker down.

Seriously, the mayor is giving the town to the thugs. And I will be wearing my vest driving home. It's that bad out there right now.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 31, 2020 07:52 PM (VWp7G)

227 214 I also was warned things could get sporty tonight.
Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 07:49 PM (w7KSn)

Yeah, apparently the when the party bus is done is Santa Monica, my area is their next scheduled stop. Definitely happy right now about my choice for roommates,

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2020 07:53 PM (tUOCc)

228 Oh, Wyatt, my heart bleeds for you. What a cocked up mess you are in.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 07:53 PM (dtTz3)

229 >>>Godspeed, Wyatt.

What a fucking mess. Bet some of these fucktard mayors are ANTIFA supporters.



We just want to do our jobs, and the politicians won't let us. People are calling the division and asking why aren't we doing anything. It's frustrating.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 31, 2020 07:54 PM (VWp7G)

230 #30: the rear sight and box magazine looks like a 1896 Krag-Jensen, USA service rifle immediately prior to the 1903

Posted by: BiGG at May 31, 2020 07:54 PM (aSYVz)

231 26 >>>Thanks for the update, Wyatt.
I also was warned things could get sporty tonight.


One of my bosses just said, "They abandoned the city." If you live in Philly - literally anywhere in the city - get out, or stay inside and hunker down.

Seriously, the mayor is giving the town to the thugs. And I will be wearing my vest driving home. It's that bad out there right now.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 31, 2020 07:52 PM (VWp7G)
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Damn, man. Good luck.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:54 PM (4FPVQ)

232 5 or 8

Posted by: irright at May 31, 2020 07:54 PM (RVcmP)

233 219 I have a tube of black lithium grease I like to use.

Someone brought up the rubber bullets police use. CNN just showed one, it looked to be the size of a 30mm round and clear plastic.
Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:51 PM (ZCEU2)


Likely a 30mm grenade/flare launcher round.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 31, 2020 07:54 PM (di1hb)

234 Loading Bench Report:
Used new brass for the first time. Followed a certain thought leader's instruction, from annealing to sizing, etc.
It was weird putting powder in the shiny new interior of the brass. It sort of glowed like the inside of the briefcase in Pulp Fiction.
Can't wait to turn it a dusky hue.

Posted by: RI Red at May 31, 2020 07:55 PM (fEY/q)

235 217 > Note one major side benefit to classifying ANTIFA as a terrorist organization is that it becomes a major crime to provide funding for them.


So if Antifa are terrorists, does that change the ROE? I mean, for the average guy on the street?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 07:50 PM (iTXRQ)

realistically? no.

What it does is allow the Government to do things like seize all their assets with no warrant needed (Civil Asset Forfeiture) and they have to sue to get them back.

They can also freeze the assets of those who support them.

Can also get a single Judge to give Warrants all over the country (normally you have to get a Judge in that district).

So, it does mean something apparently.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 07:55 PM (NgKpN)

236 Wyatt Earp, I can't imagine how frustrating that must be.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (gd9RK)

237 This week was Walther P1 week.

Both pistols I have are West German military surplus. One was made in 1979, the other 1981.

Fine pistols and good shooters. They are like the AK of pistols, simple, rugged and idiot proof.

9mm Luger and 8 round magazines. The West Germans never fired them much as the ones I have and have seen have pristine barrels.

The locking block design on this pistol was copied by Beretta for their M9 service pistol.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (Z+IKu)

238 They can also freeze the assets of those who support them.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 07:55 PM (NgKpN)

Wait? We can freeze Hollywoods assets???

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (uyKdz)

239 So does Trump label Antifa = terror organization by EO?

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (iTXRQ)

240 Wyatt, sounds like what's happened all across the country.

Nothing personal, but - I'm not the only one wondering just why TF we spend all this money on "law enforcement" that not only (in many places) colludes in the defiance of vital national laws (immigration), but can't/won't even do its most basic job of maintaining public order.

Literally, it's become a question for so many in uniform: "what's the point of you, anyway??".

Not everywhere, fortunately, but much of America is afflicted with this.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (El6T/)

241 Glad the Astra 300 is a great little pop-gun


Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 07:52 PM (Iseto)

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Well, I'd say .380 is a bit more than a popgun, but it is quite nice. Another element in its favor is the rounded cylinder. I understand why Germany bought these in bulk for aircrews. It's compact, easy to draw, low snag and optimized for close-range work.

I'd love to see how the Astra 400 measures up. I'm thinking not as cool, but still interesting.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (cfSRQ)

242

President Donald Trump tweets Antifa will be labeled a terrorist organization but experts believe that's unconstitutional


https://tinyurl.com/y7yx5k7o

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2020 07:57 PM (aKsyK)

243 Seriously, the mayor is giving the town to the thugs. And I will be wearing my vest driving home. It's that bad out there right now.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 31, 2020 07:52 PM (VWp7G)


Sigh

Remember when Escape From NYC
was a fantasy movie

Be Safe

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 07:57 PM (85Gof)

244 239 So does Trump label Antifa = terror organization by EO?
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (iTXRQ)

Thought he did it today.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2020 07:57 PM (tUOCc)

245 I also was warned things could get sporty tonight.

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Chicago suburbs here.

We got an automated call a couple of hours ago just telling us that there were marches and activity 'in our area' so we should stay home. No specifics where. No indication anyone intended to do anything about them.

Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 07:57 PM (kOpft)

246 >>>Damn, man. Good luck.


Thanks. Brought my two extra mags and there "may be" a box of .40 in my bag.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 31, 2020 07:57 PM (VWp7G)

247 Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2020 07:53 PM (tUOCc)
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Hi bbd! Be careful.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:57 PM (4FPVQ)

248 Wyatt Earp,

God bless and protect you and your men.

Posted by: Floridachick at May 31, 2020 07:57 PM (WqkRF)

249 CNN show coming up I Can't Breath, Black Men Living and Dyingin America
Not too much race bait in that

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 07:57 PM (ZCEU2)

250 So those 'experts' support terrorism?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 07:58 PM (Iseto)

251 Even in the suburbs here, t'ain't legal to set up a range in the backyard, so, I work with what I can. I *can* practice with my [air power!] .177 and .25 pellet guns (for controlling the squirrel population, c.f. cbd)

Let me tell you, I always have a plan, and low expectations. Justifiably so. It's just air, right? And usually, I have fun and exceed my expectations and get an eye:finger coordination workout using [air power!]

Posted by: Oh look there's a squirrel. at May 31, 2020 07:58 PM (64PZ4)

252 This week was Walther P1 week.



Both pistols I have are West German military surplus. One was made in 1979, the other 1981.


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (Z+IKu)

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This is on my list. More interesting to me than the Luger and far more affordable.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 07:58 PM (cfSRQ)

253
The other thing about the Glock is that it strips down for cleaning like a dream.

I could do it in the dark.

1911, better keep an eye on that main spring.

OK, I'll shut up now. LOL


Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM

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I once put a 1911 recoil spring dead into the overhead where it stuck because I was not paying attention.


Can't do that with a Glock.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 31, 2020 07:49 PM (JUOKG)







Depends on how you you disassemble the 1911. Way back *koffkoff* years ago in the Army, I was taught that the first step was to push in the recoil spring plunger and rotate the barrel bushing to release the tension. That's a GREAT way to put the plunger into the ceiling.

Retract the slide to the takedown notch and take out the slide stop first (like virtually every other modern, non-Glock pistol made) and you really have to work at it to lose control of the spring.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 31, 2020 07:58 PM (EGyGV)

254 Literally, it's become a question for so many in uniform: "what's the point of you, anyway??".

Not everywhere, fortunately, but much of America is afflicted with this.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (El6T/)

Blue Ctities

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 07:58 PM (85Gof)

255 President Donald Trump tweets Antifa will be labeled a terrorist organization but experts believe that's unconstitutional



....says......CNN.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2020 07:59 PM (oVJmc)

256 Ugh the fucking government of minneapolis is celebrating the lack of injuries among a rodaway mob that got in the way of a semi, and the yellow slugs on Fox agree with them.

Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 07:59 PM (kOpft)

257 CNN show coming up I Can't Breath, Black Men Living and Dyingin America

Not too much race bait in that


Imma go out on a limb: Number of gang violence mentions--zilch.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 07:59 PM (JCrfD)

258 The rifle with fixed bayonet in the hold my beer picture looks like a 1898 Krag.

Posted by: Cosda at May 31, 2020 08:00 PM (PU9gx)

259 I got a message from the DOD to essentially shelter in place. Hide

Their computer system thinks I am in the DC area

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:00 PM (85Gof)

260 *searches for Astra 300 on GunBroker.com and winces*

Need to win the lottery to afford one.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 08:00 PM (Iseto)

261 258 The rifle with fixed bayonet in the hold my beer picture looks like a 1898 Krag.
Posted by: Cosda at May 31, 2020 08:00 PM (PU9gx)
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I think that's right.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:01 PM (4FPVQ)

262 CNN show coming up I Can't Breath, Black Men Living and Dyingin America

Not too much race bait in that

Have you listened to that fuck Wallace on Fox lately? He is as bad as cnn

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:01 PM (85Gof)

263 Excellent thread Weasel. Thanks.

Posted by: tbodie at May 31, 2020 08:01 PM (TXMsW)

264 >>>God bless and protect you and your men.



Thank you. I'm inside, but a lot of my coworkers are out there in the crap. We've had three assist officer calls in the last thirty minutes.

Besides, I'm no more than a secretary with a gun, but it's getting really dicey out there.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 31, 2020 08:02 PM (VWp7G)

265 Posted by: tbodie at May 31, 2020 08:01 PM (TXMsW)
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Thank you very much! My pleasure.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:03 PM (4FPVQ)

266 .So those 'experts' support terrorism?
Posted by: Anna Puma


I think their argument is- Antifa's activities are constitutionally-protected free speech

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 08:03 PM (iTXRQ)

267 Hi bbd! Be careful.
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 07:57 PM (4FPVQ)

Hi Weasel! I will. One of my roomies is former leo. Gai bff just texted looters are 1/2 mile from his house & moving in his direction.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2020 08:03 PM (tUOCc)

268 261 258 The rifle with fixed bayonet in the hold my beer picture looks like a 1898 Krag.
Posted by: Cosda at May 31, 2020 08:00 PM (PU9gx)
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I think that's right.
******
The flip open magazine gives it away.

Posted by: Cosda at May 31, 2020 08:03 PM (PU9gx)

269 I currently have a Remington Model 1100 but it tend
to jam a lot. I clean out the action and it works for a while but then
it will start jamming again. If we had a reliable gunsmith arund here I
would take it to them and see if they could figure out the problem.


Posted by: Vic at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (mpXpK)

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does that include cleaning the gas system too?

sounds like that could be where the problem is...

Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 08:03 PM (PnmdJ)

270 MN Gov wants Ellison to lead the case in MN.

Sad shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:03 PM (85Gof)

271 Just updated my gun range membership for Mrs D and myself. She's anxious to get comfy with her .380.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (axyOa)

272 Wow..that Guv in MN is INSANE.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (L3Rsz)

273 Blake @ 87 - The Hi Power magazine disconnect is easy to remove.

Posted by: butch at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (hXu8T)

274 Thank you for the excellent video. Audio was very good, great job on that. And the picture in picture, great addition. Really good you include a bit of the getting ready for shooting maintenance in the video, while length of the video is still good.

And thanks to Sua Sponte and Jim from Galveston for the range reports.
Off to read the comments.

Posted by: MikeM at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (SVIry)

275 260
*searches for Astra 300 on GunBroker.com and winces*

Need to win the lottery to afford one.


Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 08:00 PM (Iseto)

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The ones without the Nazi marks are a lot cheaper. That's what I got, and I paid a third of what most of the other ones are going for.

They're common enough that after-market parts are easy to find, so be patient.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (cfSRQ)

276 Ellison's son loves Antifa.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (L3Rsz)

277 Ellison to lead case
Elections have consequences

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (85Gof)

278 NGU, do squads of military dentists practice close-order drill?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (DMUuz)

279 Isn't Ellison a wife beater?

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (L3Rsz)

280 Ellison's son loves Antifa.
Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (L3Rsz)

So does Ellison

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:05 PM (85Gof)

281 speaking of Race Baiters

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 08:05 PM (ZCEU2)

282 @279: "Isn't Ellison a wife beater?"

More like a crazy girlfriend beater, but still.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 08:05 PM (+oVP5)

283 Owners manual people

Owners manuals for gun cleaning/ disassemble

Posted by: Yo! at May 31, 2020 08:05 PM (arxmH)

284 I think their argument is- Antifa's activities are constitutionally-protected free speech

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 08:03 PM (iTXRQ)

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So if someone performs the same kind of "activities" on their home and car, they're fine with it, right?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:05 PM (cfSRQ)

285 271 Just updated my gun range membership for Mrs D and myself. She's anxious to get comfy with her .380.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (axyOa)
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Good. I hope that this shit causes anyone undecided about protecting themselves, their family and property, to pay attention.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:06 PM (4FPVQ)

286 Biden got out. Last seen roaming the streets of Delaware.

Posted by: Menack at May 31, 2020 08:06 PM (buTO7)

287 Well, maybe if they think Chauvin is going to get off, this gives them cover? Then maybe it is not insane.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:06 PM (L3Rsz)

288 Just got an emergency call on my phone. LA County on a 6 PM to 6 AM curfew. Stay home, they say. Well they can just fuck off. I'm taking my walk tonight just like any other night.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 31, 2020 08:06 PM (xPl2J)

289 Just read an article in the Dayton Daily News about some of the damage done in Saturday's protest downtown. Very minor. However the owner of one restaurant with a broken window said she's ok with the damage since it was justified.
Ok, you've been closed for weeks due to the WuFlu, open about a week and you have to close up til Tuesday and you're ok with it. Idiot! Haven't ever eaten there and won't try it. Might imbibe stupid through the food.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 31, 2020 08:06 PM (JVgnl)

290 A woman-beater, at any rate.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:06 PM (L3Rsz)

291
Literally, it's become a question for so many in uniform: "what's the point of you, anyway??".

Not everywhere, fortunately, but much of America is afflicted with this.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (El6T/)

I think a whole lot of people all over the country will be coming to that conclusion. So we'll see another run on guns and ammo.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 31, 2020 08:06 PM (JFqVi)

292 Weasel, I sent you a pic a few weeks ago of son's new toy, an AR pistol. It's....interesting.

He recently bought a laser sight for it.


Bring it, Savannah Antifa "visitors."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:06 PM (ptqGC)

293 I think we're thru the looking glass here, where the Constitution has lost all meaning...


...when domestic terror is okay but going to church is banned

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 08:07 PM (iTXRQ)

294 Well, just had an idea. I'm going to buy the wife a 1911 chambered for 9 mm.

I don't need another caliber but my wife needs something she can handle.

You all have a good one!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 31, 2020 08:07 PM (WEBkv)

295 There is a problem with Glocks. I love you people and you need to know about this problem before you buy a Glock. My first Glock was a G26. I shot it and actually carried it a good bit IWB. Then I traded a guy an AK for a G21. After that things kinda snowballed and before I knew it they were everywhere. Like tribbles. I have Sigs, HKs, Colts, Kimbers, CZs, Berettas, and others. But mostly? End up carrying a Glock, either an old clunker G19Gen2 or a spanking new G48. Glocks work. Just like Mossberg 590s.

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2020 08:07 PM (XhWtx)

296 287 Well, maybe if they think Chauvin is going to get off, this gives them cover? Then maybe it is not insane.
Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:06 PM (L3Rsz)

*licks finger, tests the breeze*

Nope. Still insane.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 31, 2020 08:07 PM (A5zUN)

297 My nearest city of note is Tacoma. They were patting themselves on the back this morning for their peaceful protest. In reality everything downtown has been closed for so long, there nothing there to steal.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:07 PM (axyOa)

298 NGU, do squads of military dentists practice close-order drill?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (DMUuz)


Much like Wyatt, I am mostly a secretary. The dental secretary to the Dental Admirals. I drill with my computer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:07 PM (85Gof)

299 A bad-guy cop repeatedly protected by a police union, in a blue city, in a blue state, without a single non-democrat ever involved in any decisions leading up to his current bad action and who is to blame? Red states.

Posted by: irright at May 31, 2020 08:07 PM (RVcmP)

300 Posted by: MikeM at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (SVIry)
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Thanks, MikeM! They're slooooowly getting there. I keep forgetting to swap out the microphones for the shooting sequences.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:07 PM (4FPVQ)

301 Santa Monica is getting lit up tonight.


Savannah Mayor Van Johnson finally got some sense and issued a curfew for 8:30 p.m. until 7:00 a.m.

National Guard based in Savannah is on alert, and the local white progs are in tears.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:08 PM (ptqGC)

302 Peaceful protest in MN just repeated Reginald Denny and pulled a trucker from his rig and beat him senseless.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

This makes me sick. Hubbymayhem is a truck driver. He has already said he will refuse any loads to shitcago. He's considering carrying a pistol in the truck too.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 31, 2020 08:08 PM (myjNJ)

303 Mrs. tbodie and I did some range therapy this past week, lots of fun.

I did decide I need to have some trigger work done on my wheel gun. It is just too heavy a pull when shooting DA. In SA mode I am satisfied with my shooting. I can hit the broad side of a barn at 7 yards!

Posted by: tbodie at May 31, 2020 08:08 PM (TXMsW)

304 maybe the Constitution IS a suicided pact

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 08:08 PM (iTXRQ)

305 Interesting that Ellison said, sorta, that's it's not necessarily a slam-dunk case.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:08 PM (L3Rsz)

306 I've been updating my Springfield Scout M1A lately.

I bought a Burris XTR II 1-8x24, a CASM rail, and a 15 MOA mount. I know, I know, this is blasphemy and I should be using iron sights. I don't care.

I also upgraded the spring and spring guide and polished up the trigger group.

Things are looking good so far, but I only have a 300 yard range nearby. I haven't been able to stretch its legs yet.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2020 08:09 PM (i0wNm)

307 Are the rioters attacking a tanker ? Where is that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:09 PM (85Gof)

308 The DOJ usually does not charge domestic terrorist with being a "terrorist". They charge them with some other related crime that they have committed. But them being classified as 'terrorist' makes it a lot easier to get indictments and warrants.

Posted by: Vic at May 31, 2020 08:09 PM (mpXpK)

309 Literally, it's become a question for so many in uniform: "what's the point of you, anyway??".



Not everywhere, fortunately, but much of America is afflicted with this.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (El6T/)

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I think it varies by location.

I live in a liberal town and they had the demonstration today, but the only damage was to a police cruiser and I'm highly confident the perps will be made to pay for it.

Local police was out in force and they even had choppers overhead.

Detroit cops seem to have no patience for this crap, either. So it varies.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:09 PM (cfSRQ)

310 But the truck-driver drove fifty miles an hour into thousands of peaceful protesters!!!!?!!!?!

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:09 PM (L3Rsz)

311 One of my bosses just said, "They abandoned the
city." If you live in Philly - literally anywhere in the city - get out,
or stay inside and hunker down.



Seriously, the mayor is giving the town to the thugs. And I will be
wearing my vest driving home. It's that bad out there right now.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 31, 2020 07:52 PM (VWp7G)


They ought to designate certain mayors and governors as terrorists. Praying for you



Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:09 PM (WZIFd)

312 @295
As the saying goes...

All guns should be Glocks.
All Glocks should be 19's.

All 19's should be 9mm.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2020 08:09 PM (FDLBf)

313 "MN Gov wants Ellison to lead the case in MN."


That's why the President is labeling this terrorism and the participants terrorists. The feds can go after them in ways the states can't or won't.

Posted by: lowandslow at May 31, 2020 08:10 PM (4thlk)

314 (amazing how no one, aside from the driver, seems to have been hurt)

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:10 PM (L3Rsz)

315 Wyatt
Take care and keep your head on a swivel.
I have a friend who retired from Seattle PD.,One of his boys is at present an officer there.
They are frustrated as hell.
On the plus side, the mayor there got a nice photo op pretending to help volunteers who came downtown to clean up yesterday's mess.
I wonder if the goons will go after the better neighborhoods.
That will be very interesting.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 31, 2020 08:10 PM (d9Irc)

316 Much like Wyatt, I am mostly a secretary. The dental secretary to the Dental Admirals. I drill with my computer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:07 PM (85Gof)

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Do you plug the bit into the USB port? Where does the patient sit?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:10 PM (cfSRQ)

317 Anyone out on the street now is a terrorist.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:10 PM (85Gof)

318 297
My nearest city of note is Tacoma. They were patting themselves on the
back this morning for their peaceful protest. In reality everything
downtown has been closed for so long, there nothing there to steal.



Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:07 PM (axyOa)

I used to go to a CW Bar/Dance hall in Tacoma years ago.

Posted by: Vic at May 31, 2020 08:11 PM (mpXpK)

319 Constitutional right to plan, train, coordinate and fund political, racial and ethnic violence?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2020 08:11 PM (oVJmc)

320 292 Weasel, I sent you a pic a few weeks ago of son's new toy, an AR pistol. It's....interesting.

He recently bought a laser sight for it.


Bring it, Savannah Antifa "visitors."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:06 PM (ptqGC)
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Thanks, Jane! I saw that. Very nice!! Wasn't sure if you intended for me to use that on the blog. Have D'oh Boy send some pics and I'll include them. I've been thinking about you all - take care of yourselves.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:11 PM (4FPVQ)

321 ..I currently have a Remington Model 1100 but it tend
to jam a lot. I clean out the action and it works for a while but then
it will start jamming again. If we had a reliable gunsmith arund here I
would take it to them and see if they could figure out the problem.

Posted by: Vic at May 31, 2020 07:26 PM (mpXpK)




Clean the gas system, and PUT A NEW "O" RING in the thing, period.

You should have an old 35mm film cannister around somewhere. Or an old medicine bottle.

Order a half dozen "O" rings from Brownell's, and your set for (on average) a half-dozen years.

A dedicated clay or winghooter will need more than a half dozen, of course.

Keep that bottle of the "O" rings attached to or inside the gun case that holds your 1100. Replace as needed, as indicated by jams.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 08:11 PM (QzJWU)

322 >That's why the President is labeling this terrorism and the participants terrorists. The feds can go after them in ways the states can't or won't.



NOT SO FAST

Posted by: That one Hawaiian judge at May 31, 2020 08:11 PM (iTXRQ)

323 How many legit deaf people are there in the USA so that every stinking news conference as interpretive signer?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2020 08:11 PM (FDLBf)

324 I'd love to see how the Astra 400 measures up. I'm thinking not as cool, but still interesting.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 07:56 PM (cfSRQ)

Hi A.H! My 400's remind me very much of the 1911.

Big pistols, but very accurate and they handle the 9mm Largo round quite well.

Tame recoil and feels good in the hand. I had one which the barrel was shot out so I was able to find a spare and it dropped right in and she's back in business.

Both made in the 1920's and still in fine shape.

Still wanting an Astra 300. One day.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2020 08:11 PM (Z+IKu)

325 Two PA NG military police companies activated to Philadelphia. Hope they can go with their weapons. When they went to NYC after Hurricane Sandy Bloomberg made them leave firearms in PA.

Posted by: Cosda at May 31, 2020 08:11 PM (PU9gx)

326 ---
Do you plug the bit into the USB port? Where does the patient sit?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:10 PM (cfSRQ)

If I plug anything into a USB port they come and arrest me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:12 PM (85Gof)

327 Seems like the antifa goons have set up lots of goodies around Minneapolis. But sounds like a lot of the caches have been found.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:12 PM (L3Rsz)

328 Chicago suburbs here.

We got an automated call a couple of hours
ago just telling us that there were marches and activity 'in our area'
so we should stay home. No specifics where. No indication anyone
intended to do anything about them.

You must be in the south burbs then. My sil has an app scanner that said they're moving straight west too. Here's a link to a bunch of Chicago metro scanners. The main Chicago scanner is Citywide 6.

https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/mid/38

Posted by: dartist at May 31, 2020 08:12 PM (K22Va)

329 The 1917 story is fascinating. Here we were, getting ready to send a million or so men Over There, and we're training them with broomsticks because there aren't enough rifles and the armories can't make the numbers needed fast enough.

But it just so happens that three American arms companies are tooled up and producing P1914 Enfields for the Brits in .303. And they're easily converted to .30-06.

The head of ordnance at the time called it "well nigh providential."

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 31, 2020 08:12 PM (j4zcI)

330 OH, and for the record, horrible Bayonet technique.

First off, he is too close to his target.

And his front hand should be further back on the stock.

Plus, he should thrust as he is stepping forward, not after his feet are already planted.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:12 PM (NgKpN)

331 Just updated my gun range membership for Mrs D and myself. She's anxious to get comfy with her .380.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:04 PM (axyOa)

Diogenes, if you don't mind saying, what model .380 do you have? Wife seems to like the round, not a fan of the current gun.

Posted by: tbodie at May 31, 2020 08:12 PM (TXMsW)

332 Did any of you see this from that pandering, lying fuckface Rubio.

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1267189079717879810
First line: Various domestic terror groups on BOTH far left & right are instigating & committing acts of violence & looting.

Posted by: jeannebodine at May 31, 2020 08:13 PM (t1tHS)

333 Chicago suburbs here.

We got an automated
call a couple of hours ago just telling us that there were marches and
activity 'in our area' so we should stay home. No specifics where. No
indication anyone intended to do anything about them.


Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 07:57 PM (kOpft)


If you don't mind me asking, where? There was a Best Buy looted in Downers Grove this afternoon on Butterfield Rd and towns in DuPage County are advising businesses to close and people to stay at home.


4:00 pm

The City of Elmhurst has been notified that groups are
traveling into the suburbs with the intent of causing damage. Several
stores in our area have closed as a precaution.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:13 PM (WZIFd)

334 Glocks work. Just like Mossberg 590s.
Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2020 08:07 PM (XhWtx)

When you really need the tool, the best one is tge one that works. All other considerations are secondary.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 08:13 PM (KnJdm)

335 Lloyd, they never expect 'their' Mercedes G-wagen to get torched. And as long as that never happens they don't care what the savages do as long as it destroys their mortal enemy the United States.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 08:13 PM (Iseto)

336 Methos - I'm in Chicago suburbs also. Had a couple of looting/vandalism incidents this morning. Village robocall told us to stay home as did their web site. F'ing insane. We have family a couple of counties away, might be dashing out to their place soon.

Posted by: parsimony at May 31, 2020 08:13 PM (X1xq4)

337 The gun I wish I still had was a Rossi pump .22, iron sights
Would ping the t-posts along the fence across the back yard at 25 yards

The thing that worries about the current events is, a gun is a tool, and every situation some tools are better than others.
And I can't have every tool I want.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 31, 2020 08:14 PM (aO8Gd)

338 Owners manual people

Owners manuals for gun cleaning/ disassemble
Posted by: Yo!


Great advice.
But damn! There gotta be a technique to keeping that spring in place!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:14 PM (axyOa)

339 Thanks, Jane! I saw that. Very nice!! Wasn't sure
if you intended for me to use that on the blog. Have D'oh Boy send
some pics and I'll include them. I've been thinking about you all -
take care of yourselves.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:11 PM (4FPVQ)


I will. He's very proud of his new toy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:14 PM (ptqGC)

340 If I plug anything into a USB port they come and arrest me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:12 PM (85Gof)

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LOL.

When that rule came out it played havoc with Public Affairs.

"Um, so how do we get the photos off our cameras and into the computer?"

The solution is a little cd burner that can read the card, but it's hideously wasteful.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:14 PM (cfSRQ)

341 First line: Various domestic terror groups on BOTH far left & right are instigating & committing acts of violence & looting.
Posted by: jeannebodine at May 31, 2020 08:13 PM (t1tHS)

'Both sides' Drink!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 31, 2020 08:15 PM (A5zUN)

342 Hate to add more non-gun stuff, but I've been noting (and someone else, forget who) for a day or two that the local DA signaled it was *not* a slam-dunk case, notwithstanding the foolproof forensic and criminal examination by web commenters. Medical examiner's initial report was also, possibly, not "helpful".

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 08:15 PM (El6T/)

343 The dem politicians and the RINOs are all feeding this inferno

Ride on the back of the Tiger, I hope they end up inside the Tiger

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:15 PM (85Gof)

344 308 The DOJ usually does not charge domestic terrorist with being a "terrorist". They charge them with some other related crime that they have committed. But them being classified as 'terrorist' makes it a lot easier to get indictments and warrants.
Posted by: Vic at May 31, 2020 08:09 PM (mpXpK)

Incitement to riot can get you an 8 year prison term.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:15 PM (NgKpN)

345 I have no gripes with Glocks. I have a very old (in Glock years) 17 police trade in that works first time every time. A few months ago, I went out on expedition to buy a 43 and ended up with a 26. I just couldn't get used to the grip for one reason or another, even with the mag extension. My everyday carry is still, and has been for a couple years, a SCCY CPX2. I like it. I have an older CPX1 (with safety) holding down the side pocket of the recliner. Never had a failure to feed, fire , or eject with either in a few thousand rounds. Moral to the story, if it works and you're comfortable with it, carry it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 31, 2020 08:15 PM (C1Lsn)

346 Ellison leading prosecution for Chauvin? Sure, he's AG but if that's anything more than a ceremonial role (which frankly is bad enough...hiding Ellison in Biden's basement is the first step toward a legit shot at convicting Chauvin), Chauvin's defense attorney is very pleased. Jesus, even Emmett Sullivan knows that when it's really important, hire a real lawyer. What a shitshow. Mind-boggling incompetence.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 31, 2020 08:15 PM (ja/kn)

347 the owner of one restaurant with a broken window said she's ok with the damage since it was justified

The Darwin Awards just keep getting handed out. She deserves to lose that business.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 31, 2020 08:16 PM (EgshT)

348 >>The City of Elmhurst has been notified that groups are traveling into the suburbs with the intent of causing damage.


Lock and Load, People of Elmhurst.




Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 08:16 PM (isdIM)

349 Ok, time to relax and read a little.
Great gun thread as always Weasel.

And to any that have to be out in the madness that is sweeping the country, be safe.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 31, 2020 08:16 PM (uyKdz)

350 I heard the lawyers for the family of George want another autopsy, which will be done tomorrow.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:16 PM (L3Rsz)

351 Spokane now moving from peaceful to violent. The backpacks showed up.

Posted by: Derak at May 31, 2020 08:16 PM (BMFHr)

352 But it just so happens that three American arms
companies are tooled up and producing P1914 Enfields for the Brits in
.303. And they're easily converted to .30-06.



The head of ordnance at the time called it "well nigh providential."

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 31, 2020 08:12 PM (j4zcI)

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And as it turned out, none of those troops actually saw combat, because the Armistice came first.

A boon for arms collectors if there ever was one.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:16 PM (cfSRQ)

353

Sounds like a lot of shit in Chicago is happening on the south side now. Some at Sox park a post office on the south side but there is a group moving towards Trump Tower. Sounds like the cops have on riot gear. That has to be breaking that commie dyke's heart

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:17 PM (WZIFd)

354
Peaceful protest in MN just repeated Reginald Denny and pulled a trucker from his rig and beat him senseless.
Posted by: AlaBAMA


Fox News told me that he deliberately drove into a bunch of peaceful marchers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2020 08:17 PM (aKsyK)

355 >>The dem politicians and the RINOs are all feeding this inferno


The entire media is cheering them on as well.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 08:17 PM (isdIM)

356 @JackPosobiec
BREAKING: President Trump moved to underground bunker on Friday as riot mobs advanced on White House

gddamn fucking fuckers

Posted by: vmom at May 31, 2020 08:17 PM (btJAX)

357 also- beg pardon for going OT
Hey Weasel great vid
you know your stuff

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 08:18 PM (iTXRQ)

358 Make of this what you will. I drive past the Boston Market week days after picking up my daughter from school. Black Amercans want to be left alone and probably are not keen on another police state being created.

https://tinyurl.com/y9fvvowz

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at May 31, 2020 08:18 PM (4vNgL)

359 The City of Elmhurst has been notified that groups are

traveling into the suburbs with the intent of causing damage. Several

stores in our area have closed as a precaution.

I heard Oakbrook and Yorktown is shutdown with village trucks blocking entrances. They'll be walking past me to get to you.

Posted by: dartist at May 31, 2020 08:18 PM (K22Va)

360 350 I heard the lawyers for the family of George want another autopsy, which will be done tomorrow.


The autopsies will continue until findings improve.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2020 08:18 PM (oVJmc)

361
I will. He's very proud of his new toy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:14 PM (ptqGC)
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You should be very proud of him!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:18 PM (4FPVQ)

362 The solution is a little cd burner that can read the card, but it's hideously wasteful.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:14 PM (cfSRQ)

Can use CDs without a dispensation from the pope

I am teleworking from home and can not print anything. Have to email it my personal computer to print anything and that violates a dozen other regs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:18 PM (85Gof)

363 >>Fox News told me that he deliberately drove into a bunch of peaceful marchers.


Fox News is part of the problem.

From what I saw, there was NO sign of that Trucker hitting anyone or trying to.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 08:19 PM (isdIM)

364 The entire media is cheering them on as well.





Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 08:17 PM (isdIM)


Yes, they fucking well are and lying through their teeth about what is really happening. Magically peacefully protests leave tons of burned out cars, buildings, smashed windows and looted stores.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:19 PM (WZIFd)

365 It's always been said that Sgt York did his deed with a 1917, because that's what his unit was issued (like 95% of doughboys). But his grandson, IIRC, said that he traded it for an '03 Springfield before then. Apparently that good ol' boy didn't take to the aperture sight on the '17 and preferred the open sight of the '03 since it was like the guns he grew up shooting.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 31, 2020 08:19 PM (j4zcI)

366 I used to go to a CW Bar/Dance hall in Tacoma years ago.
Posted by: Vic


There's still a few down there. But the U of W Tacoma campus really cleaned up the town all along Pacific Ave. Its a nice little city but then they elected a bunch of typical Lib idiots. The outcome is inevitable.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (axyOa)

367 For those interested in the Antifa vs Barr business:

https://tinyurl.com/y7v49qdh

Scary!

Posted by: Grannymimi at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (u5LFV)

368 284 I think their argument just died by Trump

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (TnwAJ)

369 Must go, kiddies! Giggles and I have a virtual date on Facetime that I don't want to miss (don't dare to miss) ThanX! To all and again, Weasel, great viddy

Ciao, McGyver, Out

Posted by: McGyver at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (8h+YG)

370 Mayor Jenny Durkin has a press conference going on right now, and said there is a 5pm curfew tonight, and it will be enforced.

Currently, it is 5:14pm.

There are hundreds of people standing and congregating, in the TV split screen, with nobody moving or police or NG moving to enforce her curfew.

What an embarrassment.

A reporter just asked her, "what's the point?"

She just pointed out that Guvnor Inslee's stay at home order is still in effect, so there are TWO orders to obey.

I cannot make this up.

And still nobody is moving on the split screen.

She just said again that anyone on the street RIGHT NOW should immediately go home.

If you buy anything from Amazon, or Starbucks, you are supporting this nonsensical people with your tax money.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (sy5kK)

371 As the saying goes...

All guns should be Glocks.
All Glocks should be 19's.

All 19's should be 9mm.


Eh, Glocks are fine. They are reliable and functional and reasonably priced. However, they are not perfect. Their slide releases are terrible and their triggers are mediocre.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (i0wNm)

372 @356: "President Trump moved to underground bunker ..."

He's probably tweeting from the bowling alley.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (+oVP5)

373 I heard Oakbrook and Yorktown is shutdown with village trucks blocking entrances. They'll be walking past me to get to you.


Posted by: dartist at May 31, 2020 08:18 PM (K22Va)


The Best Buy that got looted is just west of Yorktown. It's all I've heard about looting in the area

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (WZIFd)

374 Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 31, 2020 08:16 PM (uyKdz)
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Thanks, S_D!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (MVjcR)

375 The Video I did see happened to show all sorts of Peaceful Protestors climbing on and into it, though...

but there was NO video of a vehicular assault of any kind.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 08:21 PM (isdIM)

376 360 350 I heard the lawyers for the family of George want another autopsy, which will be done tomorrow.


They are using the left wing celeb pathologist

A really big shoe

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:21 PM (85Gof)

377 Just got an emergency alert about the 6pm curfew. You'll all be happy to know that the homeless are exempt.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2020 08:21 PM (tUOCc)

378 Am I the only one who just now found out about the 2003 The Dead Zone episode "Plague" about a coronavirus? And using HCQ to save someone's life.

Friend of mine just forwarded 3-minute video of scenes from the episode.

If I didn't know this was from a show in 2003, I would have thought someone made this based on our current situation.

https://imdb.to/2BkRN5X

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 31, 2020 08:21 PM (Do5/p)

379 Guaranteed Rate Field ("Sox Park") is apparently a staging area for the police and/or NG:

https://twitter.com/HardlyHoward

Posted by: parsimony at May 31, 2020 08:21 PM (X1xq4)

380 Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 08:18 PM (iTXRQ)
--------
Thanks, man. Have to credit GT research staff!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:21 PM (MVjcR)

381 Just got an emergency alert about the 6pm curfew. You'll all be happy to know that the homeless are exempt.
Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2020 08:21 PM (tUOCc)


I was just about to ask.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 08:22 PM (t+qrx)

382 Hey everybody.

Well, we've got a curfew in LA County. 6pm. No exemptions except for emergency medical care, media and "homeless sheltering in place."

Stop 2020, I wanna get off!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:22 PM (L2ZTs)

383 351 Spokane now moving from peaceful to violent. The backpacks showed up.
Posted by: Derak at May 31, 2020 08:16 PM (BMFHr)

You have a link?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 08:22 PM (KnJdm)

384

Have no fear people of Illinois. Jabba is here!!!


Brigadier General Richard R. Neely called it a "somber day," saying they would be deploying 375 members of the Illinois National Guard to the city to support the efforts of police on the ground.
He said soldiers from the 33rd Military Battalion, who are trained as military police and have training in crowd control, will support law enforcement to "protect people and property in a limited capacity."


Nothing says law and order like limited capacity

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:22 PM (WZIFd)

385 Eh, Glocks are fine. They are reliable and
functional and reasonably priced. However, they are not perfect. Their
slide releases are terrible and their triggers are mediocre.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (i0wNm)

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I deeply dislike Glocks. Feel is all wrong, actively dislike trigger.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:23 PM (cfSRQ)

386 Spokane now moving from peaceful to violent. The backpacks showed up.
Posted by: Derak

Go Zags!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:23 PM (axyOa)

387 Sounds like a lot of shit in Chicago is happening on the south side now. Some at Sox park a post office on the south side but there is a group moving towards Trump Tower. Sounds like the cops have on riot gear. That has to be breaking that commie dyke's heart
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:17 PM (WZIFd)

Well, it is the basest part of town!

Posted by: Jim Croce at May 31, 2020 08:23 PM (NgKpN)

388 spent a few minutes listening to Fox.

They say the "Los Angeles National Guard" was called out. I have questions about that.

They also say Trump was moved to a bunker. I have questions about that too.

back to sitcoms. But they saw we are all in this together.

Posted by: Quint at May 31, 2020 08:23 PM (hHxp2)

389 Two Brooklyn lawyers, including an Ivy League graduate corporate attorney, are facing federal charges for tossing a Molotov cocktail into an NYPD vehicle early Saturday morning during a protest over the police killing of George Floyd.


Weasel Zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:23 PM (85Gof)

390 I think by next year I am seriously going to be emailing you all, asking if there's any way I can become a tenant at one of your rural hamlet spreads. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:23 PM (L2ZTs)

391 @378: "If I didn't know this was from a show in 2003, I would have thought someone made this based on our current situation."

Spooky like the Lone Gunmen episode about a remote controlled jetliner crashing into the World Trade Center that aired six months before the actual event.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 08:23 PM (+oVP5)

392 378 I'm actually watching Dead Zone now - just in season 2 Haven't gotten to that ep yet

Posted by: vmom at May 31, 2020 08:23 PM (btJAX)

393 bebe's, you're in California? I did not know that.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:24 PM (L2ZTs)

394 "And as it turned out, none of those troops actually saw combat, because the Armistice came first.

A boon for arms collectors if there ever was one."

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75% (not 95% like I mis-typed above) of our combat troops in WWI used the '17. It was our main battle rifle.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 31, 2020 08:24 PM (j4zcI)

395 Praying everyone stays safe tonight

Posted by: Skip at May 31, 2020 08:24 PM (ZCEU2)

396 >> Spokane now moving from peaceful to violent.


How can we sleep while SpoCompton's Burning?

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 08:24 PM (isdIM)

397

Spokane?

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at May 31, 2020 08:24 PM (w3OLr)

398 367 For those interested in the Antifa vs Barr business:

https://tinyurl.com/y7v49qdh

Scary!

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What in holy hell is this?

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 08:24 PM (TnwAJ)

399 375...huh. Well, I guess it's something.
Pritzker and Lightfoot's folly.
By gosh...THIS may turn Illinois red.(a girl can dream)

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:24 PM (L3Rsz)

400 Good news: LA does have its own National Guard.

Bad news: it's mostly retired Broadway performers. "We'll wow the rioters by distracting them with our dazzling performance of All That Jazz!" :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:25 PM (L2ZTs)

401 >>Two Brooklyn lawyers, including an Ivy League graduate corporate attorney, are facing federal charges for tossing a Molotov cocktail into an NYPD vehicle early Saturday morning during a protest over the police killing of George Floyd.


You don't know the indignities they have suffered!

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 08:25 PM (isdIM)

402 Inspector, rank above captain, just went over the air and ordered the division parking lot blocked, all the buildings doors closed and secured. I guess he's expecting us to be under siege.

Here's an idea: stop treating us like babies and let us do our job?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 31, 2020 08:25 PM (VWp7G)

403 I've never been so happy to live in a rural hamlet, on a back road, with neighbors who like to shoot guns.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:25 PM (L3Rsz)

404 Weasel, every video you're doing keep getting better n' better.

Still want you to film a Rampaging Tractor scene, with MP-5s blazing! *evil grin*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (QzJWU)

405 Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot called for unity Sunday, saying the city would work to support those looking to protest but would not allow what she called a "small element" subvert that effort.



The city is working to support the protests. Sorry bitch there are only riots and looting.



Lightfoot said moving forward the city would work to, "continue the hard but necessary work of building a more inclusive, equitable and just city."



This bitch is the final nail in Chicago's coffin

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (WZIFd)

406 I'm looking forward the the explanation on why Antifa is full of white supremacists.

I mean, since only white supremacists are causing the riots

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (aO8Gd)

407 Sunday on CNNs Situation Room, former Obama administration National Security Adviser Susan Rice said the violence during the protests over the death of George Floyd was in part because President Donald Trump demonized peaceful protests, including former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick kneeling during the National Anthem.

How many stupid things can this cunt say in one day?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (85Gof)

408 I deeply dislike Glocks. Feel is all wrong, actively dislike trigger.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:23 PM (cfSRQ)

Yup, and its all about how it feels to you.

Sig P225 in .45? Fits my hand really well.

But even better? my Uberti El Patron Single Action Colt replica, .45. Its actually the first handgun I'd pick up if there was trouble.

Posted by: Jim Croce at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (NgKpN)

409 Two Brooklyn lawyers, including an Ivy League
graduate corporate attorney, are facing federal charges

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:23 PM (85Gof)

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Remember how liberals were fine with Flynn being railroaded?

Yeah, so now the federal plea bargain machine is going to be rolling in their direction.

The process is part of the punishment. Your rules. Enjoy.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (cfSRQ)

410 @JackPosobiec 10 minutes ago

BREAKING: President Trump moved to underground bunker on Friday as riot mobs advanced on White House


This is absolutely insane!

Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (cF8AT)

411 Posted by: Jim Croce at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (NgKpN)

Sock fail

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (NgKpN)

412 This bitch is the final nail in Chicago's coffin


Posted by: TheQuietMan
Oh yes. Yes she is. Didja hear she said that Chicago may not advance to the next 'rona phase now?

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:27 PM (L3Rsz)

413 No, my brother is a mile away and is giving me a play by play.

Posted by: Derak at May 31, 2020 08:27 PM (BMFHr)

414 In fairness, I recall there being tits in All That Jazz. 10-year-old me was pretty distracted.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 31, 2020 08:27 PM (H5knJ)

415 My husband's idiot niece in ATL is upset because "friends of mine are starting fires in Midtown Atlanta."


She's a GA Tech student but a complete idiot.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:27 PM (ptqGC)

416 Jim Croce?

"Operator, oh won't you help me shoot this gun
You see the rioters on the corner are young and frisky..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:27 PM (L2ZTs)

417 375 members of the Illinois National Guard to the city to support the efforts of police on the ground.

I hope I'm wrong but I thought I heard they will not be armed.

Posted by: dartist at May 31, 2020 08:28 PM (K22Va)

418 @407: "How many stupid things can this cunt say in one day?"

I had forgotten about Susan Rice, but if Biden wants his very own version of Dick Cheney, then she might wanna start measuring the Oval Office drapes.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 08:28 PM (+oVP5)

419 Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (QzJWU)
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Thanks, Jim! Appreciate that!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:28 PM (MVjcR)

420 The LA National Guard armory is in West Hollywood.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 31, 2020 08:28 PM (xPl2J)

421 410 @JackPosobiec 10 minutes ago

BREAKING: President Trump moved to underground bunker on Friday as riot mobs advanced on White House


This is absolutely insane!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (cF8AT

If this is true, and these fools continue, there will be a body count

Posted by: A dude in MI at May 31, 2020 08:28 PM (/6GbT)

422 Heh. I remembered a 1917 story. My ex fil was an MP in WW2, in Europe. Hit Normandy on D+2. He was looking at my guns one time, and I had a pretty nice Eddystone. He told me that's what they were issued and went on to say that they were MPs and issued with a 1911. He went on to say the reason you're issued a pistol is so that you're not encumbered with a rifle, and then had choice words about military thinking and how he scrounged a carbine.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 31, 2020 08:28 PM (C1Lsn)

423 As opposed to the above ground bunker?

If they use the Roof Bunker, they can always helocopter out, you know.


They wouldn't have to go through the Kennedy Sex Tunnels, that way.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 08:28 PM (isdIM)

424 400 Good news: LA does have its own National Guard.

Bad news: it's mostly retired Broadway performers. "We'll wow the rioters by distracting them with our dazzling performance of All That Jazz!" :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:25 PM (L2ZTs)

That, and all the extras who played Storm Troopers.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:29 PM (NgKpN)

425 Secret Service needs to begin stacking the first bodies that climb over the WH fence.

Our Savannah mayor is giving a presser now. He's finally called for a curfew at 8:30 p.m. tonight.

Things are getting sporty here. Charleston, SC was trashed last night.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:29 PM (ptqGC)

426 @421: "If this is true, and these fools continue, there will be a body count."

Storming the White House only ends in one way.

It's just a question of gory details.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 08:29 PM (+oVP5)

427 376 They are using the left wing celeb pathologist A really big shoe
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:21 PM (85Gof)

Michael Baden. Who said Epstein didn't kill himself.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2020 08:29 PM (tUOCc)

428 "She's a GA Tech student but a complete idiot"

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Embrace the power of "and."

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 31, 2020 08:29 PM (j4zcI)

429 Pritzker and Lightfoot's folly.
By gosh...THIS may turn Illinois red.(a girl can dream)


Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:24 PM (L3Rsz)


A lot of counties went Dem in 2018. I wonder how the wine moms/Karens and their beta male husbands will react when this shows up on their front lawn? It's one thing to be ohhhh so progressive when it's happening on the south side of Chicago but when the peaceful protestors show up and threaten them will it get through their thick skulls what is going on?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:30 PM (WZIFd)

430 Beautiful Greenville, SC looted tonight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:30 PM (ptqGC)

431 Things are getting sporty here. Charleston, SC was trashed last night.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:29 PM (ptqGC)

Fuckers. I love Charleston.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 31, 2020 08:30 PM (NWiLs)

432 Yep, Quiet. That's what I am thinking.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:30 PM (L3Rsz)

433
Didja hear she said that Chicago may not advance to the next 'rona phase now?

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:27 PM


Chicago is OUT?

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2020 08:30 PM (Iq8IA)

434 In fairness, I recall there being tits in All That Jazz. 10-year-old me was pretty distracted.

Including Sandahl Bergman's. (Conan's girlfriend).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2020 08:30 PM (gd9RK)

435 430 Beautiful Greenville, SC looted tonight.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:30 PM (ptqGC)

FUCKERS. I have personal ties there. Motherfucking cocksucker piece of shit sons of bitches.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 31, 2020 08:31 PM (NWiLs)

436 Insomniac, if you love Charleston, you won't wanna see Special Bulletin from 1983 :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:31 PM (L2ZTs)

437 Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 31, 2020 08:28 PM (C1Lsn)
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That's a great story!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:31 PM (4FPVQ)

438 The 1917 Enfield is a fine rifle. Mine shoots as well as my 03 Springfield, not quite as accurate. If you choose to acquire and use an Enfield keep an ejector on hand. Over time and with use they tend to be a bit fragile, the spring portion tends to break off rendering the ejector inoperative. The rifle still does what it's designed to do, you just have to pull the empty off the top of the magazine by hand.

Posted by: Edward Lunny at May 31, 2020 08:31 PM (V72cx)

439 I hope I'm wrong but I thought I heard they will not be armed.


Posted by: dartist at May 31, 2020 08:28 PM (K22Va)


It doesn't sound like they will be doing shit. BTW Chicago police scanner, cops in riot gear heading towards a group moving in on Trump Tower

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:31 PM (WZIFd)

440 Friday I took a road trip to central Texas and dropped off a resume' while I was there. Ended up getting an impromptu interview before being asked to formally apply online.

Not sure if I'm qualified enough, but if I end up getting a good offer, I'll take it. I'm done with city living.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 31, 2020 08:32 PM (JFqVi)

441 I'm pissed they are not airing the Levin show. Bret can EaBoD.

Posted by: Infidel at May 31, 2020 08:32 PM (UPF6H)

442 Let's just say Chicago is going to be punished by Mayoress Lightfoot for being naughty children. No outdoor dining or haircuts for you!

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:32 PM (L3Rsz)

443 TQM, really?
From what I know about Chicago and Lightfoot, they'd be happy to see anything with Trump's name on it burn.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:32 PM (L2ZTs)

444 Fuckers. I love Charleston.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 31, 2020 08:30 PM (NWiLs)


I do too. They destroyed King Street last night. Diners in Hall's Steak House had to be evacuated from the rear of the restaurant. The entire street was pretty much trashed.
When the Charleston church shooting happened, everyone gathered together to pray and grieve. And now Antifa/Obama's army are attacking every single city, large and small.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:32 PM (ptqGC)

445
Including Sandahl Bergman's. (Conan's girlfriend).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 31, 2020 08:30 PM (gd9RK)

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Plenty of them in Conan the Barbarian as well.

The commentary with Arnold and Milius is pretty funny. "Yeah, she looks great, saw her the other day..."

Before Ahnuld became a total girly-man.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 31, 2020 08:32 PM (cfSRQ)

446 @JackPosobiec 10 minutes ago

BREAKING: President Trump moved to underground bunker on Friday as riot mobs advanced on White House


This is absolutely insane!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (cF8AT)


Trump tweeted out "FAKE NEWS!" a few minutes ago, but it was a standalone, not any kind of reply.

And, if you believe Q--that, er, source claims he was in the "Woodshed . . . monitoring the situations".

Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2020 08:32 PM (NiXyF)

447 Fuck, not Greenville

Posted by: parsimony - how do I mute qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:33 PM (X1xq4)

448 I thought POTUS was in Florida on Friday so he could watch the SpaceX launch on Saturday. I didn't think he was in the WH on Friday.

Posted by: Megthered at May 31, 2020 08:33 PM (LC2+R)

449 Molotov cocktail?

Obviously not liability lawyers...

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 08:33 PM (Iseto)

450
@356: "President Trump moved to underground bunker ..."

He's probably tweeting from the bowling alley.
Posted by: Walter Freeman


Spare me, he's planning a first strike.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2020 08:33 PM (aKsyK)

451 Holy shit. Savannah is getting lit up. Pray for us.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:33 PM (ptqGC)

452 Still want you to film a Rampaging Tractor scene, with MP-5s blazing! *evil grin*



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX



Wearing a flak vest but no shirt. And a k-bar in your teeth!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:34 PM (axyOa)

453 Brave Sir Robin....My home shotgun is a Mossburg 500, pistol grip, 18.5 inch tube. I bought a snap in rubber plug so you can run Aquila mini shells through it. 9 in the mag, one up the spout, and a side saddle shell holder that will hold 12 of the mini shells, two to the plastic sleeve. Mix up the Mini shells Buckshot and slugs.

Posted by: jasonj at May 31, 2020 08:34 PM (qSQLQ)

454 . A lot of collar counties in Illinois went Dem in 2018. The looting is now hitting them today.

Screw them. Let them reap what they have sown.

I've been telling my daughter and son-in-law for years, "get the hell out of Kalimexifornicatistan" for years. They are getting the message now, but a day late, a dollar short.

Posted by: Grannymimi at May 31, 2020 08:34 PM (u5LFV)

455 Molotov cocktail?

Obviously not liability lawyers...
Posted by: Anna Puma

See, Russian influence

Posted by: Bruce at May 31, 2020 08:34 PM (vd8XM)

456 I think Antifa is going to regret being a 'covert network' that does everything from smartphones and social media.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2020 08:34 PM (oVJmc)

457 No range time this past week.

But my outdoor range still seems to have little military/police use - and don't think the police will have time to be there soon - so hoping to drag the Boss out there this week and re-familiarize her with her favorite gubs.

She likes the M1 carbine. The M&P22 is light and easy for her to use, and I'm hoping she'll like an S&W Model 60 w/Crimson Trace laser grip I got a few years back.

The current festivities have done my "prep" work for me, and she seems game ....

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 08:35 PM (El6T/)

458
I'm pissed they are not airing the Levin show. Bret can EaBoD.
Posted by: Infidel


He has Juan Williams on now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2020 08:35 PM (aKsyK)

459 BREAKING: President Trump moved to underground bunker on Friday as riot mobs advanced on White House


This is absolutely insane!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (cF8AT)

Trump tweeted out "FAKE NEWS!" a few minutes ago, but it was a standalone, not any kind of reply.

And, if you believe Q--that, er, source claims he was in the "Woodshed . . . monitoring the situations".
Posted by: filbert


He may have been moved to a bunker on Friday, but he was in Florida for the launch on Saturday.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2020 08:35 PM (4RRDi)

460 Didja hear she said that Chicago may not advance to the next 'rona phase now?

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:27 PM

Chicago is OUT?
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2020 08:30 PM (Iq8IA)


This is playing hell with my brackets.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 08:35 PM (t+qrx)

461 Right side bar: Parler? What happened to gab?

Posted by: Downcast at May 31, 2020 08:35 PM (xgpfE)

462 Watching the mobs live on local Savannah TV. The crowd is just starting to grow.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:35 PM (ptqGC)

463 Eh, Glocks are fine. They are reliable and functional and reasonably priced. However, they are not perfect. Their slide releases are terrible and their triggers are mediocre.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM


And the plastic sights suck. That's the first thing to change. Sights, new trigger group, new barrel, you've doubled or more the price of the pistol.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 08:35 PM (DMUuz)

464 400 Good news: LA does have its own National Guard.
Bad news: it's mostly retired Broadway performers. "We'll wow the rioters by distracting them with our dazzling performance of All That Jazz!" :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:25 PM (L2ZTs)
That, and all the extras who played Storm Troopers.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:29 PM (NgKpN)

Will they pass around the little orange buckets to shake down and extort the looters for AIDS donations after the looters burn and pillage?

One reason I never go to Broadway shows anymore.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM (Z+IKu)

465 I think Antifa is going to regret being a 'covert network' that does everything from smartphones and social media.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2020 08:34 PM (oVJmc)

invisible ink, carrier pigeons

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM (zr5Kq)

466 @JackPosobiec 10 minutes ago



BREAKING: President Trump moved to underground bunker on Friday as riot mobs advanced on White House





This is absolutely insane!

Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (cF8AT



If this is true, and these fools continue, there will be a body count


Posted by: A dude in MI at May 31, 2020 08:28 PM

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I seriously doubt this is true.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM (JUOKG)

467 And as it turned out, none of those troops actually saw combat, because the Armistice came first.


We had 53K combat fatalities so I'm guessing they saw some.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM (yQpMk)

468 I've got a bad feeling, watching the KC media, that tonight is KCMO's turn to burn.

Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM (NiXyF)

469 L A countywide curfew 6pm-6am.
Sounds like santa monica is one of the targets tonight.
Santa freakin liberal westside money monica.

Posted by: banned looking for the arizona and steiner at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM (DlkBX)

470 bonhomme @ 371- I have often commented here that on buying a Glock the very first thing you do is put real sights on it, undercut the rear of the triggerguard, and upgrade the trigger. It is known. My employer will not allow any mod to our issue G17Gen4s. But have to say Mrs. E's target G17 has all the above-mentioned mods plus custom stippling to fit her delicate hands. And she is freaking insanely accurate with it, though for some reason her edc is a Kimber micro9. Women.

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM (XhWtx)

471 Low recoil, reduced penetration. Moderate price on the shells. paired it up with a one point sling, and a good quality flashlight attachment. I sleep soundly with that next to me......

Posted by: jasonj at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM (qSQLQ)

472 Savannah police are using paintball guns to try to disperse the mob. Jeebus. Stop playing around.

National Guard Armory is just a few miles away.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM (ptqGC)

473 454 my grandfather in the US in 1930's kept telling his family in Poland to get out.

They didn't.

After the '39 invasion by Hitler, never heard from again

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM (TnwAJ)

474 >>> 451 Holy shit. Savannah is getting lit up. Pray for us.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:33 PM

Where did you see that? I pulled my car off the street. There were cars racing down my residential street at 60mph.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (l6b3d)

475 Haha...see how I've picked up the Pritzker-speech? I talk in phases now.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (L3Rsz)

476 Great video, Weasel. Nice revolver redc1c4.

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (zr5Kq)

477 Holy shit. Savannah is getting lit up. Pray for us.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:33 PM (ptqGC)


Where?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (t+qrx)

478 Those paintball guns are probably shooting pepperballs.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (1ISKN)

479 If you don't mind me asking, where? There was a Best Buy looted in Downers Grove this afternoon on Butterfield Rd
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I'm about fifteen minutes from Downers Grove. Used to live over there.

Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (kOpft)

480 Mentioned last week, I have three project guns in need of parts and Numrich is the only people that have them. They're still closed due to Chink Flu, and I imagine Albany will find a way to put them on the bottom of the list. Gun related business must suffer.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (C1Lsn)

481 I've been telling my daughter and son-in-law for years, "get the hell out of Kalimexifornicatistan" for years. They are getting the message now, but a day late, a dollar short.
Posted by: Grannymimi at May 31, 2020 08:34 PM (u5LFV)

I have friends in Santa Monica who said they'd never leave. They've seen now how insane their friends and everyone else around them are. This crap might finally convince them to leave.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (JFqVi)

482 Where did you see that? I pulled my car off the street. There were cars racing down my residential street at 60mph.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (l6b3d)


Watching it live on WSAV.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (ptqGC)

483 Wearing a flak vest but no shirt. And a k-bar in your teeth!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:34 PM (axyOa)


And an eye patch, got to have an eye patch ala Snake Plissken

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (Q4GsL)

484 Savannah has a Dem mayor, right? Good luck.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (L3Rsz)

485 This will make you sick to your stomach....

@dbongino

Is @jtimberlake going to bail them out?

https://tinyurl.com/ycwh492k


It gets worse as it goes.

Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 08:38 PM (cF8AT)

486 Just reading now about downtown Charleston--which is not that far from me--getting trashed by the black supremacist and communist terrorists. My neighborhood has been quiet thus far, but I guess it's a good time to load up some magazines just in case things get sporty tonight or tomorrow.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at May 31, 2020 08:38 PM (DTX3h)

487 407

Sunday on CNNs Situation Room, former Obama administration National Security Adviser Susan Rice said the violence during the protests over the death of George Floyd was in part because President Donald Trump demonized peaceful protests, including former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick kneeling during the National Anthem.

How many stupid things can this cunt say in one day?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM

So what did she say was the reason for the Baltimore riots in April 2015 --- 2 years before Donald Trump was President --- when they were given "space to destroy" by the mayor?

Not to mention all the other riots and destruction and looting and arson that occurred all throughout the Obama Administration years? Including the assassination of police officers in Dallas.

I guess that was all Trump's fault too.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 31, 2020 08:38 PM (Do5/p)

488 National Guard Armory is just a few miles away.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM

They're close enough to me that I can hear in the mornings.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 31, 2020 08:38 PM (l6b3d)

489 The Polar Bear Division saw combat from 1918 to 1919 in the Murmansk region against the Red Bolsheviks. At least two dozen American soldiers are still buried somewhere on those distant frozen battlefields.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 08:38 PM (Iseto)

490 Rioters in my city (Stafford, VA) are throwing bricks at cars on the road and posting on Facebook that they're coming into residential neighborhood tonight.

Remember when Weasel said to buy ammo? This is why.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at May 31, 2020 08:39 PM (T8HPM)

491 Still want you to film a Rampaging Tractor scene, with MP-5s blazing! *evil grin*

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

=====

Wearing a flak vest but no shirt. And a k-bar in your teeth!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:34 PM


Shouting "Say hello to my little friends, Mr. Heckler and Mr. Koch!"

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 08:39 PM (DMUuz)

492 filbert - I hope KCMO doesn't burn; I've got a friend who works at a hospital in the area, and although he's cool with guns he's not really a "CCW" guy. I don't even know if he has a shotty in the bedroom closet.

If I were closer, I'd swing by his place and give him a quick lesson on the beautiful simplicity of the AK platform.

Posted by: PabloD at May 31, 2020 08:39 PM (Btsd7)

493 469 L A countywide curfew 6pm-6am.
Sounds like santa monica is one of the targets tonight.
Santa freakin liberal westside money monica.
Posted by: banned looking for the arizona and steiner at May 31, 2020 08:36 PM (DlkBX)

I'm perplexed by the strategy here.

Clearly planned riots. Working from a list of targets, but almost all the targets are Blue Cities.

And there are no spokesmen telling us what they want. Its Terrorism without a visible cause to support. At least Islamic Terror had some rationale behind it (to support Islam).

I can't figure out what Antifa and their allies are hoping to accomplish, unless they are playing Joker, and just want to see the world Burn?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:39 PM (NgKpN)

494
Where?

Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (t+qrx)


Broughton Street, Ellis Square.....GA State Patrol is armed and marching on the area. Rioters are in City Market.

If Mayor Van Johnson stops this shit, I'll never criticize him again.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:39 PM (ptqGC)

495 Thanks, Weasel. This has become my favorite weekend poat.

Oh, and give Weaseldog a bacony treat as producer.

BTW, I love the humble-brag about a 2 1/2" pattern.

It's okay, I guess.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 31, 2020 08:40 PM (x8Wzq)

496 >>See, Russian influence


Das Rayciss

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 08:40 PM (Matox)

497 I am watching Savannah now. Makes a change from Chicago and Minneapolis. I hate it when the goons stand in front of the police with their hands up or on their heads.

I guess it's better than the harridans who scream obscenities in the cops faces, though.

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:40 PM (L3Rsz)

498 Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (zr5Kq)
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Thanks, runner! I'm enjoying making them!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:40 PM (MVjcR)

499 Fox is going full Cnn

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:40 PM (85Gof)

500 458 I tuned OANN moment BaIer came on.

Only heard his first statement.

Something about "Riots BUT after all these years of racism yadda yadda"

Bye Brett!

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 08:40 PM (TnwAJ)

501 If Mayor Van Johnson stops this shit, I'll never criticize him again.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:39 PM

He was protesting with them earlier today.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 31, 2020 08:41 PM (l6b3d)

502 How many stupid things can this cunt say in one day?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM


How many talk shows can they get her on?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 08:41 PM (DMUuz)

503 Rioters in my city (Stafford, VA) are throwing
bricks at cars on the road and posting on Facebook that they're coming
into residential neighborhood tonight.



Remember when Weasel said to buy ammo? This is why.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at May 31, 2020 08:39 PM (T8HPM)

Stafford Virginia? Is that for real? What is next Levittown?

Posted by: Quint at May 31, 2020 08:41 PM (hHxp2)

504 Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 31, 2020 08:40 PM (x8Wzq)
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Why thank you very much!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:41 PM (MVjcR)

505 Mentioned last week, I have three project guns in need of parts and Numrich is the only people that have them. They're still closed due to Chink Flu, and I imagine Albany will find a way to put them on the bottom of the list. Gun related business must suffer.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 31, 2020 08:37 PM (C1Lsn)

What parts you looking for? I will check around in my AO and gun room to see what may be laying about.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2020 08:41 PM (Z+IKu)

506 Bought a Crossman .177 break barrel air rifle. Zeroed the rifle with the included scope at 15 yards. Compared to a .22 it is quiet with the included suppressor. Nice varmint rifle. $89 at Academy.

Posted by: An Observation at May 31, 2020 08:42 PM (+u6Jp)

507 >>Is @jtimberlake going to bail them out?


Does it matter?

They have been letting mmurderers out of prison so they don't get the Covids...what are a few more arsonists and looters gonna hurt?

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 08:42 PM (Matox)

508 493 God help them if they try it in a red area

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 08:42 PM (TnwAJ)

509 He was protesting with them earlier today.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 31, 2020 08:41 PM (l6b3d)


I know. He's a POS. Did you see Estella Shabazz (whose husband was/is a Black Panther) riling everyone up earlier? All the stupid, young white progs were cheering for her as she told them they are all racists.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:42 PM (ptqGC)

510 Weasel, they are getting better and better ! Now you can do picture in picture. I also liked the one comparing Python and...those other ones.

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 08:42 PM (zr5Kq)

511 The nice thing about a Peaceful Protest is there are NEVER any Rapes or Sexual Assaults.

Just good old fashioned arson and assault.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 08:43 PM (Matox)

512 I turned off the news. Fox is as bad as the rest. Watching Smithonian channel about princes Margaret

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:43 PM (85Gof)

513 Van Johnson is saying people have come here from the Charleston riots last night.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:43 PM (ptqGC)

514 433

Didja hear she said that Chicago may not advance to the next 'rona phase now?

Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:27 PM

Chicago is OUT?

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2020 08:30 PM

I LOL'd!

In all seriousness though, these riots are the perfect excuse for every Governor of a lockdown state to extend their lockdowns.

We sit here thinking these Governors and mayors are freaking out, but they're more than likely all watching on TV like Mr. Smithers going "yes, yes, excellent, I now have my justification to extend the lockdowns through November..."

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 31, 2020 08:43 PM (Do5/p)

515 Incitement to riot can get you an 8 year prison term.
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I wish I had any confidence that laws and prison terms matter tonight.

Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 08:43 PM (kOpft)

516 503 when you need to shoot, shoot, don't talk - Tuco

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 08:43 PM (TnwAJ)

517 It was interesting to watch Keith Ellison in less than full race mode.

Of course, he is at the top of processing the investigation and prosecution. So he was talking as a representative of the State of Minnesota.

But the irony of what he ended up saying is delicious. Here said that the accused will hire skillful attorneys who will do everything they can to unravel the prosecutorial chain. So they are proceeding with caution, and the suggestion is the the process takes time.

So, it's rational to expect the prosecutorial process to take time.

However just before that, he had said you cannot expect a marginalized minority to have patience.

So, you cannot expect this minority to understand what he's the people to whom he's making a factual argument that this takes time.

There's a rational argument that he thinks it's beyond the pale for this minority to get.

Posted by: Axemam at May 31, 2020 08:44 PM (2CzRe)

518 I'm very happy to be far away from the riots. If I was in an area where bricks and waters were being left for antifa it would be really tempting to cut and paint some foam bricks to swap in; maybe swap out some cases of water for bottles filled with vinegar instead or just dump a bunch of salt into the water or something.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 31, 2020 08:44 PM (T9Hmo)

519 I wish I had any confidence that laws and prison terms matter tonight.

They don't.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 31, 2020 08:44 PM (EgshT)

520 I'm talking our son down from wanting to go downtown and be a Roof Marine.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:44 PM (ptqGC)

521 Let me know when the animals cross the GW Bridge or move up I 95

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:44 PM (85Gof)

522 Rioters in my city (Stafford, VA) are throwing

bricks at cars on the road and posting on Facebook that they're coming

into residential neighborhood tonight.


I think a bunch of rioters are about to make their last mistake.

Posted by: An Observation at May 31, 2020 08:44 PM (+u6Jp)

523 491 Still want you to film a Rampaging Tractor scene, with MP-5s blazing! *evil grin*

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

=====

Wearing a flak vest but no shirt. And a k-bar in your teeth!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 08:34 PM

Shouting "Say hello to my little friends, Mr. Heckler and Mr. Koch!"
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 08:39 PM (DMUuz)
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Wow! You guys have really thought this out! I was just thinking about making a jump for the tractor out of a couple of bricks and a board.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:44 PM (MVjcR)

524 Thanks, Obama, Soros, Jarrett, Brennan, Clapper, etc. etc. etc.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:45 PM (ptqGC)

525 515 Incitement to riot can get you an 8 year prison term.
--

I wish I had any confidence that laws and prison terms matter tonight.
Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 08:43 PM (kOpft)

My point is that the laws are already on the books.

Slam dunk cases.

Yet, no one seems to be arresting those who are PUBLICLLY advocating this chaos.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:45 PM (NgKpN)

526 Start shooting them.


We all know CW2 is coming. Let's get it over with.

Posted by: National Divorce at May 31, 2020 08:46 PM (SJDa9)

527 510 Weasel, they are getting better and better ! Now you can do picture in picture. I also liked the one comparing Python and...those other ones.
Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 08:42 PM (zr5Kq)
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Thanks! I'm thinking about a target cam next.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:46 PM (MVjcR)

528 "Those paintball guns are probably shooting pepperballs."

Also to mark you for later arrest.
HK police are using them.
Once the PRC arrests you, you don't want to know...

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 08:46 PM (w7KSn)

529 Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (sy5kK)


Link, please?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 08:46 PM (4iHoC)

530 Maybe I should buy a bi-pod for the Storm.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 08:46 PM (Iseto)

531

As Mayor Eric Garcetti extended a curfew for all of Los Angeles, he
assured residents that ICE is not part of any city efforts to ensure
peaceful protests.


What a fucking tool

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:46 PM (ivm6C)

532 510 Weasel, they are getting better and better ! Now you can do picture in picture. I also liked the one comparing Python and...those other ones.
Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 08:42 PM (zr5Kq)
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And that was the other thing I screwed up. I had the second camera too far away. Moron.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:47 PM (MVjcR)

533
Bel-Square in Bellevue, WA is being looted right now, a TV reporter is broadcasting live, nobody is stopping them. Looters are running out the front doors by the dozens with handfulls of loot.

For those out of the area, I would doubt there is a single home in all of Bellevue that is worth less than $500,000. Maybe a condo or two, but not a single family home.

This is all about keeping society and small business down, nothing else.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 08:47 PM (sy5kK)

534 519 coffins matter

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 08:47 PM (TnwAJ)

535 505 Hairybackguy, I appreciate the offer, but I'm in need of a loading gate and screw for an Iver Johnson 32 Cadet, and a couple of springs for two topbreaks. Thank you again, but Numrich is probably the only game in town. Pro tip, never take up working on top breaks as a hobby.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 31, 2020 08:48 PM (C1Lsn)

536
Stafford Virginia? Is that for real? What is next Levittown?
Posted by: Quint at May 31, 2020 08:41 PM (hHxp2)
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Stafford? No shit?

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:48 PM (MVjcR)

537 Curfew just enacted in Lansing MI time now

Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 08:48 PM (t+qrx)

538 Rioters in my city (Stafford, VA) are throwing bricks at cars on the road and posting on Facebook that they're coming into residential neighborhood tonight.

Stay safe, your just up the road from us a bit. I heard some rumors that there are protests in Fredericksburg planned as well.

Posted by: spypeach at May 31, 2020 08:48 PM (Up/Jb)

539 And that was the other thing I screwed up. I had the second camera too far away. Moron.
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:47 PM (MVjcR)

huh, I do not recall a problem.

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 08:48 PM (zr5Kq)

540 Savannah has a curfew that began at 8:30 p.m. "Protesting" still going on.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:49 PM (ptqGC)

541 LPD and neighboring county assist are directed to start arresting "agitators" (their words) as soon as curfew announcement is made.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 08:50 PM (t+qrx)

542 I expect the "bunker" has better com than the whole of NASA, and is immune to man portable anti-tank weapons.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 31, 2020 08:50 PM (WyVLE)

543 Cops like curfews because being out past one gives them automatic cause to arrest.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:51 PM (L2ZTs)

544 L.A. county is under curfew and the scanner keeps talking tactics but the streets are full of people and...

I wish I had a better link.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 08:51 PM (4iHoC)

545 Jane, D'oh Boy and a couple of friends can shut down all ingress to your island.

Tell him that is more important.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 08:51 PM (dtTz3)

546 529 Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 08:20 PM (sy5kK)


Link, please?
Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 08:46 PM (4iHoC)

It was a live KOMO4/ABC local affiliate link. The press conference is over now. It lasted over an hour. It was nonsense, and the Mayor scolded all of us because America is still a racist country and we must change.


Guessing they may have something on their website.
komonews.com

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 08:52 PM (sy5kK)

547 Cops like curfews because being out past one gives them automatic cause to arrest.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:51 PM (L2ZTs)

Not when the dems in charge in these shit holes tell them to stand down

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:52 PM (85Gof)

548 Most of my young life was in South Carolina and Georgia, born and raised in SC, lived and worked all over both states. I have people of all colors still there and am worried about them. May GOD Bless and Keep you morons in danger.
'Gentlemen, prepare to defend yourselves.'
-SgtMaj. Plumb

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2020 08:52 PM (XhWtx)

549 Savannah has a curfew that began at 8:30 p.m. "Protesting" still going on.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:49 PM (ptqGC)

That's a weird kind of curfew.

Jane, did you get an answer about B-boy ? I had a thought, he may have linked his email in his nic. Maybe archive threads have it?

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 08:53 PM (zr5Kq)

550 Thanks for the Gun Thread Weasel!

Posted by: DBCooper at May 31, 2020 08:53 PM (y1Mvi)

551 There's a rational argument that he thinks it's beyond the pale for this minority to get.
Posted by: Axemam at May 31, 2020 08:44 PM (2CzRe)


Keith X wasn't elected for his raw brainpower.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 31, 2020 08:53 PM (y7DUB)

552 Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:39 PM (NgKpN)

The MSM is doing all the talking for them.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2020 08:53 PM (NZbXf)

553 Barr about to unmask all of Antifa's communications with their media and political allies

REMINDER: UNMASKING IS ROUTINE.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 08:53 PM (JCrfD)

554 547 Cops like curfews because being out past one gives them automatic cause to arrest.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:51 PM (L2ZTs)

Not when the dems in charge in these shit holes tell them to stand down
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 08:52 PM (85Gof)

Never give an order you know will not be obeyed.

AND

Never give an order you are not going to enforce.

Because, they are connected, the second leads to more of the first.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:54 PM (NgKpN)

555 Love the blog.

Posted by: Rancherbob at May 31, 2020 08:54 PM (gtu9W)

556
Jane, D'oh Boy and a couple of friends can shut down all ingress to your island.



Tell him that is more important.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 08:51 PM (dtTz3)


We're cool on our island. His neighborhood consists of well-armed good ol' boys and their families. Downtown, the historic district, is filled with progs and transplants, as well as a few good, old families with roots that go way back.

I wouldn't want to be in the historic district tonight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:54 PM (ptqGC)

557 YouTube "Smoke n' Scan is the best I've found.
Live scanner is the best part.
But it's only L.A. county and city

Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 08:54 PM (4iHoC)

558 Wow! You guys have really thought this out! I was just thinking about making a jump for the tractor out of a couple of bricks and a board.
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:44 PM


The 'ettes just (politely) roll their eyes when it comes to our wedding planning skills, and perhaps justifiably so.

But this ... this is our metier!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 08:54 PM (DMUuz)

559 These people are breaking almost every law on the books but mayors and governors think they'll obey a curfew? Pfffft.

Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 08:54 PM (cF8AT)

560 "She's a GA Tech student but a complete idiot"

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Embrace the power of "and."

No. Think "therefore"
Intellectual standards are way down.
George P. Burdell wept.

Posted by: Oh look there's a Squirrel at May 31, 2020 08:55 PM (64PZ4)

561 552 Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:39 PM (NgKpN)

The MSM is doing all the talking for them.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2020 08:53 PM (NZbXf)

the media is still spinning Race shit.

Antifa is not about that. So the question becomes, what is THEIR goal.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:55 PM (NgKpN)

562 How's your ankle doing Jane?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2020 08:55 PM (tUOCc)

563 17th anniversary. Try to be more involved next week.

Posted by: Rancherbob at May 31, 2020 08:55 PM (gtu9W)

564 It's good it's raining in Houston

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 31, 2020 08:55 PM (aO8Gd)

565 550 Thanks for the Gun Thread Weasel!
Posted by: DBCooper at May 31, 2020 08:53 PM (y1Mvi)
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You are most very welcome. Thanks for being here!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:55 PM (MVjcR)

566 We're in Springfield IL, where so far nothing has happened in the way of protests other than a car parade. But, we live only a few blocks from the Capitol complex, and I work there, so we packed bug out bags today in case we have to leave on short notice. My question is where we should go if it comes to that... we don't have any family or friends we can hole up with. How far out of town do we need to go? We're thinking of driving to NE Missouri and looking for a small town with a mom and pop motel... we don't think any self respecting pantyfa member will bother looking for anything to loot there. Any other suggestions?

Posted by: Secret Square at May 31, 2020 08:55 PM (9WuX0)

567 559 These people are breaking almost every law on the books but mayors and governors think they'll obey a curfew? Pfffft.
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 08:54 PM (cF8AT)

right up there with why do all the major mass shootings happen in gun free zones?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:55 PM (NgKpN)

568 I just finished putting up eight flood lights aiming across the front of my property toward the street. The house is set back 61 meters from the cul de sac (I think in mils). Anyone entering will be illuminated the whole way while also being blinded by the floods.

Probably overkill, but I'm not taking chances. My kids are in here.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at May 31, 2020 08:56 PM (T8HPM)

569
My division is getting crushed; a shooting, robberies, carjacking, assaults, and the bosses couldn't care less.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 31, 2020 07:47 PM (VWp7G)

We are with you in spirit, we feel for you. Wish there was more we could do.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 08:56 PM (sy5kK)

570 Barr about to unmask all of Antifa's communications with their media and political allies



REMINDER: UNMASKING IS ROUTINE.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 08:53 PM (JCrfD)


Oh goodie. I've already got popcorn popped

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 08:56 PM (ivm6C)

571 Posted by: Rancherbob at May 31, 2020 08:54 PM (gtu9W)
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Howdy, RB!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:56 PM (MVjcR)

572 " Any other suggestions?"

Stick it out and fight back.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 08:56 PM (w7KSn)

573 The M-1917 video is super. Thanks.
I didn't notice a problem with #2 cam being too far away either.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 08:56 PM (4iHoC)

574 Bel-Square in Bellevue, WA is being looted right now, a TV reporter is broadcasting live, nobody is stopping them. Looters are running out the front doors by the dozens with handfulls of loot.

For those out of the area, I would doubt there is a single home in all of Bellevue that is worth less than $500,000. Maybe a condo or two, but not a single family home.

This is all about keeping society and small business down, nothing else.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg



And very few, if any insurance policy pays for riots and insurrections.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2020 08:56 PM (4RRDi)

575 Probably overkill, but I'm not taking chances. My kids are in here.

Need a few punji sticks. And a Rottweiler or two.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 08:57 PM (Iseto)

576 563 17th anniversary. Try to be more involved next week.
Posted by: Rancherbob at May 31, 2020 08:55 PM (gtu9W)
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Happy Anniversary to you and the little missus!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:58 PM (MVjcR)

577 Curfew just enacted in Lansing MI time now
Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 08:48 PM (t+qrx)
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GR's was at 7 tonight.

Posted by: Axemam at May 31, 2020 08:58 PM (2CzRe)

578 bebe, ankle's been good for quite a while. Again, thanks so much for letting me use you as a crutch over uneven ground at the MoMe!

*waves at RancherBob*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 08:58 PM (ptqGC)

579 17th anniversary. Try to be more involved next week.
Posted by: Rancherbob at May 31, 2020 08:55 PM (gtu9W)

Cheers!

I say this without much context.

Anyway,

Cheers!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 31, 2020 08:58 PM (x8Wzq)

580 I can't figure out what Antifa and their allies are hoping to accomplish, unless they are playing Joker, and just want to see the world Burn?
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 08:39 PM (NgKpN)


Crash the economy is always the first part to a communist revolution. Barry could have told you that.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 31, 2020 08:58 PM (1g7ch)

581 404

Still want you to film a Rampaging Tractor scene, with MP-5s blazing! *evil grin*

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM

Have I ever told you my tractor story?

Posted by: Sophie, who rides tractors in her bathing suit at May 31, 2020 08:58 PM (Do5/p)

582
Happy Anniversary to you and the little missus!
Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:58 PM (MVjcR)
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And ask her not to kill me for referring to her as "little missus"

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 08:58 PM (MVjcR)

583 If I was in an area where bricks and waters were being left for antifa it would be really tempting to increase my stock of bricks and water.


Evening roonz and roonettez. Busy day at the Refuge, Eldest Son and I managed to get the old engine out of the Subaru and get the new one mostly prepped to go back in. Unfortunately the clutch kit I got has some missing and faulty pieces, so I'll have to go back to the parts store tomorrow.

Hopefully tomorrow the new motor will be installed at least. It doesn't have to run tomorrow (although that would be nice) but I would like to see it at least in its new resting place.

I was going to keep the old engine to rebuild it but I got a good look at it and...yeah, no. Not worth the effort. So if you know of anyone who needs a J251 Subaru motor, I have one they can come and get, just needs a new crankshaft. Otherwise it's going to the scrapyard.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 31, 2020 08:59 PM (CcOog)

584 505 Hairybackguy, I appreciate the offer, but I'm in need of a loading gate and screw for an Iver Johnson 32 Cadet, and a couple of springs for two topbreaks. Thank you again, but Numrich is probably the only game in town. Pro tip, never take up working on top breaks as a hobby.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 31, 2020 08:48 PM (C1Lsn)

Ok. I actually have 2 Iver Johnsons but they are in .38 S&W. One with owl head grips and the other with the target logo.

One locks up fine but can skip now and then and the other locks up but will not turn the cylinder without a little help.

The Owl Head has the "safety hammerless" and is the better working one of the two.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2020 08:59 PM (Z+IKu)

585 Rancherbob, happy anniversary! Please say hello to your lovely wife for me.

Posted by: bluebell at May 31, 2020 08:59 PM (/669Q)

586 Rancherbob, Happy Anniversary. Hope the trail ride went well. See you Wednesday.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 08:59 PM (dtTz3)

587 This is part of what's wrong:






Denver Police Dept.

@DenverPolice

46m


#DPD We want to thank the protesters today who peacefully express themselves as we assisted them to march. Unfortunately we arrested 6 individuals for weapons charges.

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 08:59 PM (iTXRQ)

588 Nasty weather here at stately Peon Manor. High winds, heavy rain, lightning and thunder. There have been several brief power bumps. It isn't over yet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2020 08:59 PM (NPKmZ)

589 Son just texted me that all he's seeing on Farcebook is some redneck woman in Savannah waving a confederate flag at the protesters. Are you kidding me?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 09:00 PM (ptqGC)

590 This is all about keeping society and small business down, nothing else.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg


BelSquare???
Really?


That's the last hub of conservativism in the Seattle area.
Jeez.

Ok. Come on south boys and girls. Come on.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 31, 2020 09:00 PM (axyOa)

591 Police scanner channel for the NYC riots on Broadcastify:
https://www.broadcastify.com/webPlayer/32890

Posted by: Beverly at May 31, 2020 09:00 PM (SBMUk)

592 So this Philly rioter just sits in the middle of the street spanking the butt of the bottom half of a mannequin


https://twitter.com/brentos93/status/
1267193746833068032

Posted by: vmom at May 31, 2020 09:00 PM (btJAX)

593 >>Crash the economy is always the first part to a communist revolution.


Believe me. I tried.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at May 31, 2020 09:00 PM (Matox)

594 Barr about to unmask all of Antifa's communications with their media and political allies

REMINDER: UNMASKING IS ROUTINE.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 08:53 PM (JCrfD)
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Bu-bu-bu-but NEW RULES!!!

Posted by: CNN at May 31, 2020 09:00 PM (2CzRe)

595 Probably overkill, but I'm not taking chances. My kids are in here.

=====

Need a few punji sticks. And a Rottweiler or two.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 31, 2020 08:57 PM


And a fougasse or three.

They can provide their own toasted fromage.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 09:00 PM (DMUuz)

596 RancherBob! Happy anniversary to you and Cowgirl Jennifer!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 09:00 PM (ptqGC)

597 Denver Police Dept.



@DenverPolice


46m





#DPD We want to thank the protesters today who peacefully express
themselves as we assisted them to march. Unfortunately we arrested 6
individuals for weapons charges.



Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 08:59 PM (iTXRQ)


Un-fcking-real.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:01 PM (ivm6C)

598 Posted by: Secret Square at May 31, 2020 08:55 PM (9WuX0)
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That sounds like good thinking. You might want to identify some potential towns w/ hotels along your route, and have a Plan B.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:01 PM (MVjcR)

599 >>Son just texted me that all he's seeing on Farcebook is some redneck woman in Savannah waving a confederate flag at the protesters. Are you kidding me?


Does she have a tit out?

If so, that's Liberty.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 09:01 PM (Matox)

600 #1 son is a student at Tech. Well not "at", he's been home for 2 months. Doing Summer semester from home too. It's a complete ripoff what they are charging for the education they are getting.

Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2020 09:01 PM (Tnijr)

601 Weasel,
Thanks so much for the model 1917 info and the great video. They are really helpful.

I'll monitor the thread from here but won't get involved unless a firearm matter comes up. Have a good night.

Posted by: JTB at May 31, 2020 09:01 PM (7EjX1)

602 453 Brave Sir Robin....My home shotgun is a Mossburg 500, pistol grip, 18.5 inch tube. I bought a snap in rubber plug so you can run Aquila mini shells through it. 9 in the mag, one up the spout, and a side saddle shell holder that will hold 12 of the mini shells, two to the plastic sleeve. Mix up the Mini shells Buckshot and slugs.
Posted by: jasonj at May 31, 2020 08:34 PM (qSQLQ)

Pretty cool set up. Last I looked Winchester was making mini shells, too. The minis are pretty slick, if you can run them.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 09:01 PM (KnJdm)

603 GR's was at 7 tonight.
Posted by: Axemam at May 31, 2020 08:58 PM (2CzRe)


I think this one was on the fly. Just heard from dispatch to field units over the scanner, make announcements and start arresting. Also someone just tried to incite the crowd to burn down the police station (which is a 12 or 15 story building that also houses city hall and 54-A District court).

Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 09:01 PM (t+qrx)

604 Son just texted me that all he's seeing on Farcebook is some redneck woman in Savannah waving a confederate flag at the protesters.

This is like the scene where Samuel L. Jackson shoots the guy in the face in Pulp Fiction. I'm laughing, but I feel bad about it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:01 PM (JCrfD)

605
@JackPosobiec

4h
Barr about to unmask all of Antifa's communications with their media and political allies

Now you know why so many people are freaking out today

--

If their "media allies" turn out to be who I think they will be...these media allies need to be dragged out of their beds and dealt with most unpleasantly.

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 09:02 PM (TnwAJ)

606 Sigh. Most people are cowards now a days

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 09:02 PM (85Gof)

607 Wyatt, praying for you and your fellow cops.

Fuck Kenney.

Posted by: vmom at May 31, 2020 09:03 PM (btJAX)

608 If their "media allies" turn out to be who I think
they will be...these media allies need to be dragged out of their beds
and dealt with most unpleasantly.

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 09:02 PM (TnwAJ)


I vote for some good old fashion medieval justice

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:03 PM (ivm6C)

609 Bellevue? WTF? I mean upscale target and all, but no attempts to stop it? Have they done that at Southcenter where I'd expect it? I can't watch the news- my neighborhood is pretty sure to get hit tonight. Well, the major street 5 blocks away. I wonder if the rich libs a few blocks north in their big houses are getting nervous?

Posted by: Infidel Librarian at May 31, 2020 09:04 PM (GfwZO)

610 Soros is funding Antifa in a very major way.
And he funds a lot of our own politicians, which is why all of the crap started since DJT got elected for the last 3 years.
Both sides of the aisle.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 09:04 PM (w7KSn)

611 "Have I ever told you my tractor story?
Posted by: Sophie, who rides tractors in her bathing suit "


Go on and there has to be pics you know.

Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2020 09:04 PM (Tnijr)

612 Fargo PD posted (on FB) the mug shots, ages, charges, of 10 rioters arrested last night, only 2 are from out-of-state.

Posted by: old chick at May 31, 2020 09:04 PM (sOete)

613 Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 08:56 PM (4iHoC)
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Thanks, Braenyard!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:04 PM (MVjcR)

614
Update on the Bel-Square looting.

KOMO just interviewed the PR person for City of Bellevue. The Bellevue police knew last night of gangbangers who were planning this for this afternoon. About 3pm some of them, plus a lot larger crew, all flooded a bunch of stores, attacked people, stole stuff, and beat up 2 security officers.

So they knew it was coming and did nothing.

Finally about 5:30, police showed up and the thugs scattered with their loot. More theater. What an embarrassment to a civilized society.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 09:05 PM (sy5kK)

615 594 what should happen to their "media allies?"

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 09:05 PM (TnwAJ)

616 Sounds like they are losing control in DT Chicago, were not able pull one of the bridges up in time.

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:05 PM (zr5Kq)

617 "Stick it out and fight back"

Um, how are we supposed to do that when we don't currently own any firearms. All we have is a couple cans of pepper spray and two baseball bats. Yes, I know we probably "should have" gotten armed by now but I don't think I can get a FOID card and 16 hours of CCL training by tomorrow so we have to make do with what we have.

Posted by: Secret Square at May 31, 2020 09:05 PM (9WuX0)

618
I can't figure out what Antifa and their allies are hoping to
accomplish...


They are trying to start a Communist Revolution. They think they are the Bolshevicks and this is 1917 in Russia. No, seriously, they really are that insane.

Posted by: An Observation at May 31, 2020 09:05 PM (+u6Jp)

619 >>Fargo PD posted (on FB) the mug shots, ages, charges, of 10 rioters arrested last night, only 2 are from out-of-state.


Guarantee they are College Students.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 09:05 PM (Matox)

620 Stafford VA? And Fredericksburg VA? Only about 1/4 of the population there are active duty Marines and their families. Good luck, antifa. Good luck.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 31, 2020 09:05 PM (ja/kn)

621 Magpie has been harassing ronster cat and robins. Within the last 5 minutes I made sure it wouldn't happen again. I love my Henry lever action .410.

Posted by: Ronster at May 31, 2020 09:06 PM (IHpbl)

622 Waves hi to rancherbob!

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2020 09:06 PM (tUOCc)

623 Posted by: JTB at May 31, 2020 09:01 PM (7EjX1)
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Thanks, JTB. Always a pleasure!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:06 PM (MVjcR)

624 Thing I noticed: Protesters wanted ZERO part of the Florida state trooper detachment in Ft. Lauderdale.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:06 PM (JCrfD)

625 And the plastic sights suck. That's the first thing to change. Sights, new trigger group, new barrel, you've doubled or more the price of the pistol.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 31, 2020 08:35 PM (DMUuz)

Meh. Night sights you add to any SD pistol, if they didn't already come with it, which you paid for. 3.5# disconnect and 50 cent trigger job dies wonders. No idears why you would purposefully vhange the barrel, unless doing a caliber conversion or shooting lead.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 09:06 PM (KnJdm)

626 Stafford VA? And Fredericksburg VA? Only about 1/4 of the population there are active duty Marines and their families. Good luck, antifa. Good luck.

That's getting into white Taliban land, too. They are choosing poorly. Stick to Arlington.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:07 PM (JCrfD)

627 can't figure out what Antifa and their allies are hoping to accomplish


Trump. It is all about Trump. They want him removed. Tried this and that. Impeach, Russia all that shiiit. He survived. Now they are doing race riots.

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:07 PM (zr5Kq)

628
Two police officers have been fired and three others placed on desk duty
over excessive use of force during a protest arrest incident involving
two college students, Atlanta's mayor said Sunday.

Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms said at a news conference that she and police
Chief Erika Shields made the decision after reviewing body-camera
footage of a Saturday night incident that first gained attention from
video online and on local news.



Every cop should walk off the job and tell that bitch to protect the city

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:08 PM (ivm6C)

629 LPD and neighboring county assist are directed to start arresting "agitators" (their words) as soon as curfew announcement is made.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 08:50 PM (t+qrx)


I was at MSU when Cedar Fest was shut down. I think they had on order 600 cops lined up around the block. With whatever clubs they preferred.

Seems like they should be able to scrounge up a few tonight.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (1g7ch)

630 @MPRnews

Attorney General Keith Ellison will lead the prosecution of the killing of George Floyd, state officials announced this evening.


Of course. Of course....we are so effed.

Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (cF8AT)

631 Do you have any friends with weapons they are willing to sell? Buy one of those plus ammo.

Posted by: An Observation at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (+u6Jp)

632 https://mobile.twitter.com/mattdelong/status/1267253459167916032

@mattdelong: "Harrington says the number of plateless cars pulled over suggests 'organized activity' and not 'a random act of rage.' Says a driver stopped in Bloomington got out of the car and tried to douse it with gas, which is 'not something you see often during traffic stops, frankly.'"

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (+oVP5)

633 Well this is interesting. Michigan State Police will not be arresting anyone for curfew violation. Other units (LPD, Ingham County) may (and are directed to). Not sure what to make of that.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (t+qrx)

634 Between riots and Chinese lung rot, the government stupid is hell on the half shell.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (myjNJ)

635 Well, if you aren't armed to some degree or another, there is another word for you, starts with a v, and it ain't victor.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (w7KSn)

636 I can't figure out what Antifa and their allies are hoping to
accomplish...

They are trying to start a Communist Revolution. They think they are the Bolshevicks and this is 1917 in Russia. No, seriously, they really are that insane.
Posted by: An Observation



16 million AR's sold and millions of rounds of ammo and we have haven't pulled one trigger.

Yet.

There isn't a revolution.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (4RRDi)

637 What an embarrassment to a civilized society.


A formerly civilized society.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (EgshT)

638 584 Both of your IJ's problems could be remedied with a new sear spring. If you attempt changing them, have some round toothpicks handy as slave pins. Also, a rule of thumb on IJ's is if the owl on the grips is looking at you, black powder. Looking forward, third issue, smokeless. The one with the target on the grips could be an American Revolver, IJ's "B" line or could be an H&R.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (C1Lsn)

639 Thanks Weasel, another great gun thread.
I'm ashamed to say I did not know there was manufacture of the Enfield here. IIRC some British sergeant held the record at 37 shots per minute with an Enfield.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2020 09:10 PM (pw+jk)

640 Attorney General Keith Ellison will lead the prosecution of the killing of George Floyd, state officials announced this evening.

Great. Now Chauvin will be found not guilty.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:10 PM (JCrfD)

641 "74 How about plain old lithium grease?


Anyone ever use it on their guns?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 31, 2020 07:20 PM (dLLD6) "



Back in the Long Ago And Far Away I used Lubriplate on 1911 slides, no issues that I can recall.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 31, 2020 09:10 PM (XXrUA)

642 >>Attorney General Keith Ellison will lead the prosecution of the killing of George Floyd, state officials announced this evening.


Domestic Abuser Keith Ellison.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 09:10 PM (x/5r/)

643 608 hanging upside down from telephone poles is the more modern alternative

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 09:10 PM (TnwAJ)

644 I get the feeling that some of these mayors and governors want people to start shooting. They want a reason to start taking guns away from the non-criminal population.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2020 09:10 PM (r+sAi)

645 Throwing bricks...

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:10 PM (zr5Kq)

646 578. Anytime Jane! You moved pretty fast once those casings started flying our way.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2020 09:11 PM (tUOCc)

647 618
I can't figure out what Antifa and their allies are hoping to
accomplish...

They are trying to start a Communist Revolution. They think they are the Bolshevicks and this is 1917 in Russia. No, seriously, they really are that insane.
Posted by: An Observation at May 31, 2020 09:05 PM (+u6Jp)

Yup. And short term, to help defeat PDT

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 09:11 PM (85Gof)

648 117 Now your seven shell magazine holds NINE or TEN rounds. And the gun doesn't kick quite as hard.
==================
Holy crap, this place is amazing!
Thank you all!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 31, 2020 07:28 PM (7Fj9P)


There is an adapter gizmo for Mossberg pumps that lets them reliably feed the shorty shells. You can get 8 or more of those rounds in a standard magazine tube, if the short shells meet your need. I have one of these but have not installed and tested it in my Shockwave.

https://www.opsolmini-clip.com/

that's all the gun stuff I have for this week - Weasel, thanks much for the info the past weeks about the M1, M1903, and M1917.

Posted by: Gref at May 31, 2020 09:11 PM (AMIL/)

649 Son just texted me that all he's seeing on Farcebook
is some redneck woman in Savannah waving a confederate flag at the
protesters. Are you kidding me?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 09:00 PM (ptqGC)

It is her right to wave a rebel flag just like it is the right of peaceful protesters to be out peacefully protesting. When she starts jabbing people with the pointy end of the flag staff, she will be just as wrong as the rioters (unless they try to attack her first then it is self defense).

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 31, 2020 09:11 PM (nAiE/)

650 Michigan State Police will not be arresting anyone for curfew violation.

Karen Whitmer, ya'll.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:11 PM (JCrfD)

651 Rich Higgins@RichHiggins_DC 32mSo ANTIFA desecrated World War 2 memorial in Washington DC tonight.

Any Questions?

Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 09:11 PM (kOpft)

652 Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 31, 2020 09:10 PM (pw+jk)
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Thanks, Jukin! It really is my pleasure.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:11 PM (MVjcR)

653

Bellevue has, for the first time since the city was created (1953) requested National Guard assistance.


The Bel-Square activity was more about stealing stuff instead of breaking and burning, although a number of windows have been broken this afternoon.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 09:12 PM (sy5kK)

654 I was at MSU when Cedar Fest was shut down. I think they had on order 600 cops lined up around the block. With whatever clubs they preferred.

Seems like they should be able to scrounge up a few tonight.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (1g7ch


Yep. The only unusual thing is that there is no NCAA Division I Men's Basketball going on right now, and it's five miles west of East Lansing.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 09:12 PM (t+qrx)

655 Anytime Jane! You moved pretty fast once those casings started flying our way.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 31, 2020 09:11 PM (tUOCc)


LOL! I didn't fall down! I'm such a clumsy ass.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 09:12 PM (ptqGC)

656 >>> 600 #1 son is a student at Tech. Well not "at", he's been home for 2 months. Doing Summer semester from home too. It's a complete ripoff what they are charging for the education they are getting.
Posted by: freaked at May 31, 2020 09:01 PM

My state school degree was around $100/hr in the 80s. And I could easily pay for that with a part time job and have a little left over. No debt when I was done. Took me a few more years. But now it's over $400/hr at the same college. Paying off $12K+ a year with a part time job wouldn't be easy for a kid today.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 31, 2020 09:13 PM (l6b3d)

657 Rich Higgins@RichHiggins_DC 32mSo ANTIFA desecrated World War 2 memorial in Washington DC tonight.

Any Questions?
Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 09:11 PM (kOpft)

Yeah let us get Kapershits comments on that

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 09:13 PM (85Gof)

658 I don't know if there have been riots in Raleigh or not, but it's pretty quiet out here in Franklin County.

Of course, the last time the concealed carry permit holders were outed here it turns out that there are a lot of CCP holders in my area. Which is a good thing IMO, that being public knowledge cuts down on the riff raff.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 31, 2020 09:13 PM (CcOog)

659 They are trying to start a Communist Revolution. They think they are the Bolshevicks and this is 1917 in Russia. No, seriously, they really are that insane


Yes.
A mob of illiterates lead by a leadership of bolsheviks.

Happy to see the Ft Lauderdale protestors did not want to tango with the fl state trooper so far. But at least some looting in Las Olas Blvd. Broken windows in an art gallery. No looting. Apparently the protestors have no use for art.

Miami Dade under curfew now.

Posted by: Floridachick at May 31, 2020 09:13 PM (WqkRF)

660 @647: "Yup. And short term, to help defeat PDT"

The true believers hate Biden just as much and would rather see Trump reelected in order to accelerate the revolution, but no one ever said these folks aren't crazy.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 09:13 PM (+oVP5)

661 ANTIFA desecrated World War 2 memorial in Washington DC tonight.

A reckoning is coming. This is NOT going to end the way these mongrels think it will.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:13 PM (JCrfD)

662 ISTR Trump watching the entire thing, praising the Secret Service. Being in a bunker is not his style.

However, when 9/11 happened, two Secret Service agents entered the Vice President's office, said that he was moving to the bunker, and lifted him up and down the hall.

Cheney got them to let him sit in an underground hallway to call the President. The Secret Service agent next to him called the CO of the DC Air NG, and launched two fighters at the SS request.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 31, 2020 09:14 PM (u82oZ)

663 Guy Mohawk - you may be right, but the problem with that line of thinking is that once "our" side starts shooting, we're unlikely to stop shooting until the problem is solved once and for all. I like the Larry Correia quote about the left thinking that violence is like a thermostat (turn the heat up or down, depending), and our side thinking that violence is like a light switch where the settings are "vote" and "shoot f-ing everybody."

Posted by: PabloD at May 31, 2020 09:14 PM (Btsd7)

664 Jane D'oh, any live links to what's happening in Savannah? I have a cousin out in Richmond Hill and she's asking what I'm hearing.

Posted by: Bert G at May 31, 2020 09:14 PM (OMsf+)

665 The true believers hate Biden just as much and would rather see Trump reelected in order to accelerate the revolution, but no one ever said these folks aren't crazy.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 09:13 PM (+oVP5)

Yes I believe that is true in some ways.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 31, 2020 09:15 PM (85Gof)

666 555 Love the blog.
Posted by: Rancherbob at May 31, 2020 08:54 PM (gtu9W)

New here? We love the newly delurked.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 09:15 PM (KnJdm)

667 I can't figure out what Antifa and their allies are hoping to
accomplish...

They are trying to start a Communist Revolution. They think they are the Bolshevicks and this is 1917 in Russia. No, seriously, they really are that insane.
Posted by: An Observation
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It's said to be an offshoot of Occupy. Compare what Occupy wanted to accomplish to what they did. At least they had the don't-rape-me tents where reaping was totally uncool.

Posted by: CNN at May 31, 2020 09:15 PM (2CzRe)

668 *Forrest Gump wave at Rancherbob & Bride*

Happy Anniversary, y'all!


*** break ***

Have I ever told you my tractor story?

Posted by: Sophie, who rides tractors in her bathing suit at May 31, 2020 08:58 PM (Do5/p)



Every Moron here in the thread, just popped to full attention like a colony of horny meerkats!

You have the floor, ma'am.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 09:16 PM (QzJWU)

669 Rich Higgins@RichHiggins_DC 32mSo ANTIFA desecrated World War 2 memorial in Washington DC tonight.



Any Questions?

Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 09:11 PM (kOpft)


See? They're just like the men who took the Normandy beaches

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:16 PM (ivm6C)

670
640 Attorney General Keith Ellison will lead the prosecution of the killing of George Floyd, state officials announced this evening.

Great. Now Chauvin will be found not guilty.




Definite possibility, since Ellison will probably charge him with war crimes and genocide and crimes against humanity.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2020 09:17 PM (oVJmc)

671 Weasel, great video. I found out stuff I never knew. Plus more 6 for 6 shooting. I see why you use steel targets. Each hit is instant feedback.

And I should send a target picture to you.

It will probably have Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy on it, a couple of holes on the perimeter, with 2 feet between each hole, and a red "Passed"stamp.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 31, 2020 09:17 PM (u82oZ)

672


Looks like the peaceful protestors are making Trump Tower in Chicago their location tonight. Cops in riot gear and gas teams are moving in. Please make it mustard gas

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:17 PM (ivm6C)

673 Helicopter nearby for over an hour. Guess Jenny's curfew is working out swell here in Seattle. Volunteers were out cleaning up downtown today. All I could think was 'why bother?' They'll probably be back, though I don't know what's left to steal.

Posted by: Infidel Librarian at May 31, 2020 09:17 PM (GfwZO)

674
Jane D'oh, any live links to what's happening in Savannah? I have a
cousin out in Richmond Hill and she's asking what I'm hearing.


Posted by: Bert G at May 31, 2020 09:14 PM (OMsf+)

I was watching WSAV live, but they've gone to national news. None of the local stations are carrying anything. You might try WSAV or WTOC on the internet.


I hope things have calmed down. I believe having the National Guard Armory up and ready to go a short distance from the hot zone may have helped.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 09:17 PM (ptqGC)

675 Son just texted me that all he's seeing on Farcebook is some redneck woman in Savannah waving a confederate flag at the protesters. Are you kidding me?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 09:00 PM (ptqGC)


Twenty of her kin are in the shadows on both sides making a kill box?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 31, 2020 09:17 PM (1g7ch)

676 Happy to hear that Broward county is under curfew too.

Posted by: Floridachick at May 31, 2020 09:18 PM (WqkRF)

677 CBD, I use lithium grease on my M1s (Garand and carbine). When the specialized gun grease (the red stuff, in the syringe dispenser) runs out soon, I'll use the lithium on my pistols, too.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 07:31 PM (El6T/)

I am not a big fan of white Lubriplate lithium grease. Over the years, is seems to dry out, and turn into hard white clay. I have dug lots of it out of manual window regulators on old cars. I prefer a modern synthetic grease, with a little moly in it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2020 09:18 PM (x0G/+)

678 Anyone besides me getting really, really, REALLY angry?

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (TnwAJ)

679

Crowd in front of Trump Tower is starting to get violent. Giving order to fire gas. Thrown in some bullets

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (ivm6C)

680
Michigan State Police will not be arresting anyone for curfew violation.



Karen Whitmer, ya'll.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:11 PM (JCrfD)

Well its not like those rioters are doing anything really bad like cutting hair without her majesty's say so.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (nAiE/)

681 538 Rioters in my city (Stafford, VA) are throwing bricks at cars on the road and posting on Facebook that they're coming into residential neighborhood tonight.

Stay safe, your just up the road from us a bit. I heard some rumors that there are protests in Fredericksburg planned as well.
Posted by: spypeach



Stafford? Fredericksburg? I think these AntiFags are biting a bit more than they can chew. Lots of military down there.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (dxKvt)

682 Guy Mohawk - you may be right, but the problem with that line of thinking is that once "our" side starts shooting, we're unlikely to stop shooting until the problem is solved once and for all. I like the Larry Correia quote about the left thinking that violence is like a thermostat (turn the heat up or down, depending),

and our side thinking that violence is like a light switch where the settings are "vote" and "shoot f-ing everybody."
Posted by: PabloD



Ding ding ding!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (4RRDi)

683 Something deeply pathetic/ironic/stupid about riots in modern America -- the most generous, fairest, freest, opportunity-rich, ridiculously not-racist country in human history.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (H8QX8)

684
Anyone besides me getting really, really, REALLY angry?

Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (TnwAJ)


WAAAAAY ahead of you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (ptqGC)

685 Curfew at 8 pm in KCMO.

Cops just seen in TV sitting at the side of a street, drinking bottles of water.

Calm right now.

Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2020 09:20 PM (NiXyF)

686

Heads up: MeTV's running the '70s Columbo with The Shat. May be nearly too late, but The Shat is The Shat.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 31, 2020 09:20 PM (f1Vqw)

687 Bunch of people in my little town beginning to congregate. Oh, wait a minute, they're at the Sonic, two fer burgers after 8:00 pm.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 31, 2020 09:20 PM (C1Lsn)

688 610 Soros is funding Antifa in a very major way.
And he funds a lot of our own politicians, which is why all of the crap started since DJT got elected for the last 3 years.
Both sides of the aisle.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 31, 2020 09:04 PM (w7KSn)


Excellent important fact.

Soros money has bought a lot of city Attorney General offices in larger cities, where they can ignore crimes by abusing their office and not prosecuting the crooks.

Local people see the disparity and faith in local government fails.

Which is exactly the plan.

Much cheaper and very effective, eliminating local prosecution of crimes.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 09:20 PM (sy5kK)

689
Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 31, 2020 09:17 PM (u82oZ)
---------
Thanks, Salty! I'm very fortunate to have had a great shooting instructor who managed to get me at least pointing in the right direction.

And shooting steel is a lot of fun!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:21 PM (MVjcR)

690 Anyone besides me getting really, really, REALLY angry?

I've been angry since at least the days of the nuclear freeze when the asshats made their true colors known and were never held to account.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:21 PM (JCrfD)

691 flounder, Rancherbob and his lovely wife host the TX MoMe at their ranch.

Definitely not new to the Horde.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 09:21 PM (dtTz3)

692 Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 09:17 PM

Thanks!

Posted by: Bert G at May 31, 2020 09:21 PM (OMsf+)

693

Looks like Trump Tower is the target of the peaceful protestors. Guy in black hoodie with a 3 foot board with nails moving in. Chicago cops just issued use force when needed order. Definitely use force

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:22 PM (+rNWB)

694 Well it's clear that there is a nation wide understanding that the rioters will be "given space" to destroy as there is no desire to put an end to this.

So it looks like the destruction will continue until they simply get tired.

Looks like we're in for a long hot summer.



Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2020 09:22 PM (FDLBf)

695 Just saw a class action lawsuit against the BSA for those who were sexually abused when they were boy scouts. Turns out that a lot of pedophiles are gay men.

If only someone had warned them...

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at May 31, 2020 09:22 PM (CcOog)

696 Anyone besides me getting really, really, REALLY angry?
Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (TnwAJ)

These days I wake up angry.

All of this is...

I. Am. Angry.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 31, 2020 09:22 PM (x8Wzq)

697 But the truck-driver drove fifty miles an hour into thousands of peaceful protesters!!!!?!!!?!


Posted by: lizabth at May 31, 2020 08:09 PM (L3Rsz)

The cops changed the road closing time minutes before and the trucker obviously slammed on his breaks to avoid hitting someone who had fallen down.

Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline at May 31, 2020 09:23 PM (PNThH)

698 ANTIFA desecrated World War 2 memorial in Washington DC tonight.



Democrats Para-Military wing desecrated World War 2 memorial in Washington DC tonight.

Suggested re-write.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 31, 2020 09:23 PM (dxKvt)

699

Paging Richard J Daley. Paging Richard J. Daley please report to the mayor's office and issue the shoot to kill orders

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:23 PM (+rNWB)

700 Looks like we're in for a long hot summer.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 31, 2020 09:22 PM (FDLBf)

That's always been the plan.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 31, 2020 09:23 PM (H8QX8)

701 I think these guys are just executing the typical opening phase of communism. Theyre gonna show us they can act with immunity and the LEOs for a large part will not intercede. At some point, someone is gonna shoot one of them and all hell will break loose; the state will come down on the shooter. Hard. And then everyone will fall in line.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2020 09:23 PM (NZbXf)

702 Hmmm, in case it hasn't been mentioned yet, via Insty and SmallDeadAnimals, Barr is going to unmask communications between Antifa and politicians and media...

https://tinyurl.com/y86ajpbh

Posted by: davidt at May 31, 2020 09:23 PM (l3+k2)

703 Looks like Trump Tower is the target of the peaceful protestors. Guy in black hoodie with a 3 foot board with nails moving in. Chicago cops just issued use force when needed order. Definitely use force
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:22 PM (+rNWB)


They are interrupting police communications.

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:23 PM (zr5Kq)

704 tractor story?

Posted by: rancherbob at May 31, 2020 09:23 PM (gtu9W)

705

Keep saying there's one more good rodeo left, wonder if this is it?

Albany is the closest area that could see problems, my 2x4 AO is not the hot spot ready to explode.

That said, I can't get any more prepared.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 31, 2020 09:24 PM (KATBx)

706 From the Bellevue, Washington Police twitter 21 minutes ago:

"Please do not call 911 to report looting. We are aware of the situation and are actively working it. NORCOM911 is getting inundated with calls about looting and the lines need to be left open for emergencies. Thank you!

NOT the Onion -

https://tinyurl.com/y88zso82

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at May 31, 2020 09:24 PM (8/7u2)

707 >>Guy in black hoodie with a 3 foot board with nails moving in.


Couldn't find a proper Club?

Jesus, when the real shit starts it is not gonna go well for these folks.

Posted by: garrett at May 31, 2020 09:24 PM (tSQU1)

708 Trump. It is all about Trump. They want him removed. Tried this and that. Impeach, Russia all that shiiit. He survived. Now they are doing race riots.
Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:07 PM (zr5Kq)

I don't buy that Antifa, who predates Trump, has Trump as their end goal.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 09:24 PM (NgKpN)

709 Something deeply pathetic/ironic/stupid about riots
in modern America -- the most generous, fairest, freest,
opportunity-rich, ridiculously not-racist country in human history.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (H8QX

You're right except 33% of the country is incredibly fucking racist, envious and hateful. They just think by committing injustices against a different race than they used to, it magically makes them not racist.

Posted by: ... at May 31, 2020 09:25 PM (Z8csD)

710 Do you have any friends with weapons they are willing to sell? Buy one of those plus ammo.
Posted by: An Observation at May 31, 2020 09:09 PM (+u6Jp)


Sorry, you may need the "cooling off" period.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 31, 2020 09:25 PM (1g7ch)

711 Weasel, thank you for the gun threads. I've learned a lot, and they are always interesting.

Posted by: Infidel Librarian at May 31, 2020 09:25 PM (GfwZO)

712 691 flounder, Rancherbob and his lovely wife host the TX MoMe at their ranch.

Definitely not new to the Horde.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 09:21 PM (dtTz3)

Yeah, I gathered too late. Thank you.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 09:25 PM (KnJdm)

713 And Happy Anniversary, RancherBob.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 09:26 PM (KnJdm)

714
...
Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms
said at a news conference that she and police
Chief Erika Shields
made the decision after reviewing body-camera
footage of a Saturday night incident that first gained attention from video ....
------------------------------------


Sounds like a plot line for a porn movie.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 09:26 PM (4iHoC)

715 @ Romeo13 , they direct it at will

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:26 PM (zr5Kq)

716 inundated with calls about looting and the lines need to be left open for emergencies.

Chief?

You're fired.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:26 PM (JCrfD)

717 No "bugging out" from Casa New Dawn.

There are only three ways off of this island, and the best one is over twenty miles distant.

I've got more skill and a LOT more ammo than they do. I don't think enough of them would want to pay the price to make it the final block to my house.

That said?

I sure hope they never come down to play here on the coast. I far prefer tranquility.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 09:26 PM (QzJWU)

718 Guy Mohawk - you may be right, but the problem with
that line of thinking is that once "our" side starts shooting, we're
unlikely to stop shooting until the problem is solved once and for all. I
like the Larry Correia quote about the left thinking that violence is
like a thermostat (turn the heat up or down, depending),



and our side thinking that violence is like a light switch where the settings are "vote" and "shoot f-ing everybody."

Posted by: PabloD







Ding ding ding!



Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (4RRDi)

That sounds right to me too... I will add, our side has that right approach. Civilized society does not work with toddlers throwing violent tantrums every time they don't get their way.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 31, 2020 09:26 PM (nAiE/)

719 Water bottles starting to be thrown at cops in KCMO.

Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2020 09:27 PM (NiXyF)

720 Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms
said at a news conference that she and police
Chief Erika Shields
made the decision after reviewing body-camera
footage of a Saturday night incident that first gained attention from video ....
------------------------------------


Sounds like a plot line for a porn movie.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 09:26 PM (4iHoC)

Keisha and Erika.

the ATL is in good hands. Soft, creamy hands.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 31, 2020 09:27 PM (x8Wzq)

721 -
--
From the Bellevue, Washington Police twitter 21 minutes ago:



"Please do not call 911 to report looting. We are aware of the
situation and are actively working it. NORCOM911 is getting inundated
with calls about looting and the lines need to be left open for
emergencies. Thank you!



NOT the Onion -



https://tinyurl.com/y88zso82

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at May 31, 2020 09:24 PM
-
-

----------------
You want the police to show up? Tell them someone is shooting the looters.


Posted by: irright at May 31, 2020 09:27 PM (RVcmP)

722 You know, aside from intimidation factor, a baseball bat you'd think would be far more effective and less likely to damage the wielder than a 3 foot length of 2x4 with nails in it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 31, 2020 09:28 PM (A5zUN)

723 696 Anyone besides me getting really, really, REALLY angry?
Posted by: Techie at May 31, 2020 09:19 PM (TnwAJ)

These days I wake up angry.

All of this is...

I. Am. Angry.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 31, 2020 09:22 PM (x8Wzq)


When I get angry, really angry, the best thing I can do is go to work and work hard, taking out the anger with physical and mental activity. Or I will go to a restaurant and enjoy a drink, good food, and conversation at the bar.

But because Jay Insless still has the state shut down for non-sensical reasons, I can't go to work, or to a restaurant.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 09:28 PM (sy5kK)

724 thank you flounder.

Posted by: rancherbob at May 31, 2020 09:28 PM (gtu9W)

725 Trump. It is all about Trump. They want him removed.
Tried this and that. Impeach, Russia all that shiiit. He survived. Now
they are doing race riots.

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:07 PM (zr5Kq)



I don't buy that Antifa, who predates Trump, has Trump as their end goal.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 09:24 PM (NgKpN)

It isn't about Trump. It is about us. The left wants to destroy us. trump just got in the way (thank God Almighty he did).

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 31, 2020 09:28 PM (nAiE/)

726 I was just at the WWII memorial last night...

This is just not going to end without a serious, violent clash.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at May 31, 2020 09:29 PM (T8HPM)

727 I don't buy that Antifa, who predates Trump, has Trump as their end goal.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 09:24 PM (NgKpN)


The people holding Antifa's leash want Trump removed.

Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2020 09:29 PM (NiXyF)

728 My nephew is a firefighter in Milwaukee. He's working. Spoke to him earlier. He's nervous.

Prayers, please.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V at May 31, 2020 09:29 PM (HabA/)

729 'Member when the Democrat racists in the South used to blame outside agitators for everything?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:29 PM (JCrfD)

730 OK. 9:30 GT message.
Thank you all for spending part of your weekend here. I really appreciate it! Thanks, also, for all of the kind words about the thread and the videos! Finally, if you are anywhere near all the bullshit going on, please keep your wits about you, and stay aware of what's going on. If you think you need to un-ass your area, have a plan.
Thanks again, take care, and have as good a week as you can.

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:30 PM (MVjcR)

731 I`m sad, no range time yesterday.
I had a feeling thing would get sporty early in Seattle, so I chose not to leave my hamlet.
Had I gone, there was a 50/50 chance I would have gotten caught in a freeway closure and surrounded by "protestors."

Next week, I hope to be back. In ant case, I will be packing to work in the morning and head on a swivel, especially on the way home.

Peace and love, hordlings.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2020 09:30 PM (U2p+3)

732 "Stick it out and fight back"



Um, how are we supposed to do that when we don't currently own any
firearms. All we have is a couple cans of pepper spray and two baseball
bats. Yes, I know we probably "should have" gotten armed by now but I
don't think I can get a FOID card and 16 hours of CCL training by
tomorrow so we have to make do with what we have.

---

I have a sledgehammer sitting next to me. Similar issue on firearms-my eyesight makes me less than useful in that regard, so I kept putting it off. And here we are.

Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 09:30 PM (kOpft)

733 I kid too much how tranquil it is here, but I pray for you folks in danger. I have one serious bit of advice. In the current climate, if you would be forced to the last resort to protect you and your family, look around after the act. If you can get away with it, don't report it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 31, 2020 09:30 PM (C1Lsn)

734
How angry am I?

I'm so angry that I forgot to thank Weasel for another amazing thread, featuring the rifle my father used (sporterized with a wood stock) to hunt deer when I was one of those youths.

Thanks, Weasel.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 09:30 PM (sy5kK)

735 Chicago needs some of those old retired 1968 cops. Hell they need zombie Daley too. SDS/Yippies/BlackPanthers, my ass.

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2020 09:31 PM (XhWtx)

736 >>> 664 Jane D'oh, any live links to what's happening in Savannah? I have a cousin out in Richmond Hill and she's asking what I'm hearing.
Posted by: Bert G at May 31, 2020 09:14 PM


Richmond Hill is pretty far from Savannah. I live in the city center and it takes me 30-45min to get to Richmond Hill on the highway. And the way Richmond Hill is set up with subdivisions off in the woods the rioters would be prey.

As far as Savannah, I haven't heard anything from local news yet. Just, them finding riot/vandalism supplies being left in areas. I think cities that give a shit are more prepared now that they've seen the methods the leftist have used elsewhere. It's quiet where I am. There were a series of high speed cars through earlier but now nothing.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 31, 2020 09:31 PM (l6b3d)

737 I have an aluminum tee-ball bat in my truck. Not elegant, but it has just the right range for close-in head bashing.

that said, it's not my only means of defense.

Wife has one in her car as well. It's pink, b-cuz girl.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 31, 2020 09:31 PM (x8Wzq)

738 This is just not going to end without a serious, violent clash.

We have been saying for some time that this will come to blows. We have a choice: Get back to using the Constitution and elections to decide political issues or do something else. Since the something else violates the Constitution, those of us who believe in oaths will have clarity.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:32 PM (JCrfD)

739 715 @ Romeo13 , they direct it at will
Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:26 PM (zr5Kq)

Question is, what is their endgame.

What is their goal.

This is not really going to hurt Trump, and in fact, may help.

Is the goal to bring us enough chaos to where the average citizen will embrace some change? and they will be in charge of the change?

Trump is a historic speed bump. He would be gone in a few years anyway.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 09:32 PM (NgKpN)

740

Almost slept through it.
Don't leave, please.
Question coming.

Posted by: TeeJ at May 31, 2020 09:32 PM (RwXje)

741 So Barr could go to Twitter and point out that Antifa is a terrorist org and demand that all their accounts be deleted?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2020 09:32 PM (oVJmc)

742 Not really bunkered in, but I did clear fields of fire some yard work this weekend. Thinking of getting a night sight just in case for those pesky raccoons that go shopping in my trash dumpster.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at May 31, 2020 07:23 PM (di1hb)

Ordered one on Saturday to go on a 6.5 Grendel AR15. Not true night vision but uses a uv illuminator and the scope picks up the uv light. Lots of coyotes trailing newly born fawns. Had three show up on trail cameras this week. May have other uses as well.

Posted by: Agitator at May 31, 2020 09:32 PM (y/e6R)

743 711 Weasel, thank you for the gun threads. I've learned a lot, and they are always interesting.
Posted by: Infidel Librarian at May 31, 2020 09:25 PM (GfwZO)
----
Thank you very much! Glad you're enjoying them!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:33 PM (MVjcR)

744 And there goes the tear gas in KCMO.

Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2020 09:33 PM (NiXyF)

745

The peaceful protestors are breaking windows at State and Division. My old neighborhood. Wonder what all of those lakefront liberals are thinking as they are quaking in their apartments?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:33 PM (+rNWB)

746 HUSH, ADULTS ARE TALKING.

Posted by: banned command voice at May 31, 2020 09:33 PM (vUesv)

747 668

Every Moron here in the thread, just popped to full attention like a colony of horny meerkats!

You have the floor, ma'am.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 09:16 PM

I got gonorrhea from a tractor. I did. My boyfriend said I got gonorrhea from riding the tractor in my bathing suit.

Posted by: Sophie, who rides tractors in her bathing suit at May 31, 2020 09:33 PM (Do5/p)

748 739 This is just not going to end without a serious, violent clash.

We have been saying for some time that this will come to blows. We have a choice: Get back to using the Constitution and elections to decide political issues or do something else. Since the something else violates the Constitution, those of us who believe in oaths will have clarity.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 31, 2020 09:32 PM (JCrfD)

That the Supremes just said that Freedom of Religion, Right to Assemble, and Property rights, are gone as soon as a politician says they are?

We need a reset.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 09:33 PM (NgKpN)

749 They are interrupting police communications.

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:23 PM (zr5Kq)


Someone was playing music over it but it stopped now

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:34 PM (+rNWB)

750 Peace and love, hordlings.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2020 09:30 PM (U2p+3)

*pushes loaded mags through USB port*

Stay alert.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 09:34 PM (KnJdm)

751 @Romeo13 , they want to push him to make mistakes, this is more than volatile. then they can pile on, make it impossible to have him reelected. constant chaos, news cycle of riots.

Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:35 PM (zr5Kq)

752 the "protesters"say they're going to the suburbs.... maybe they should save their time and come to the country for "enlightenment"!

Posted by: rancherbob at May 31, 2020 09:35 PM (gtu9W)

753 Well, we've got a curfew in LA County. 6pm. No
exemptions except for emergency medical care, media and "homeless
sheltering in place."



Stop 2020, I wanna get off!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 31, 2020 08:22 PM (L2ZTs)

---
not here: people out walking, riding bikes and driving, same as always for these days..

brought another 9mm into the house, and will swap a house gun out or another cheap ChiCom Mossberg clone.

i'm not too concerned, but better to have and not need than heed and not have.

9mms are filled with 147 Gold Dot HPs, and the punps will have 00 buck.

Posted by: recd1c4 at May 31, 2020 09:35 PM (PnmdJ)

754 >>> 741 So Barr could go to Twitter and point out that Antifa is a terrorist org and demand that all their accounts be deleted?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 31, 2020 09:32 PM

No, what would be better is to take them and other online sources over in order to infiltrate, degrade, and destroy.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 31, 2020 09:35 PM (l6b3d)

755 At some point, someone is gonna shoot one of them and all hell will
break loose; the state will come down on the shooter. Hard. And then
everyone will fall in line.


Agreed. That's one of the goals here. They can't wait for some poor bastard to get backed up against a wall and have to defend himself.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 31, 2020 09:35 PM (EgshT)

756 >>>Question is, what is their endgame.


For as long as there have been people in the world, there have been people who want to rule the world.

Posted by: davidt at May 31, 2020 09:35 PM (l3+k2)

757 I am appreciating the reports here from people on the ground near the riots.
Watching TV news on line and it's mostly, "Peaceful protests and demonstrators".
Except it isn't.
My town is pretty quiet although I'm sure there are scum among us who would love to start shit.
Stay safe everyone.
Prayers for you all, our country and our president.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 31, 2020 09:35 PM (d9Irc)

758 Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 09:30 PM (sy5kK)
------
Thank you very much!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:35 PM (MVjcR)

759 Well, Imonna crawl in bed and read or watch TV. Had a wonderful, relaxing dinner with husband in a lovely setting at a restaurant tonight. Two cocktails, great food, and I didn't have to clean up take out even.


Later all. Unless I get restless and try to comment from my stupid phone.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 09:36 PM (ptqGC)

760 672

Looks like the peaceful protestors are making Trump Tower in Chicago their location tonight. Cops in riot gear and gas teams are moving in. Please make it mustard gas

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:17 PM

Thankfully, my brother's shift is done today, so he does not have to put up with that shit.

Though when I shared with him the Twitter posts of pictures and video someone had taken of police parking at Guaranteed Rate Field parking lot, he was none too happy. As now anyone looking at that knows where officers' personal vehicles are parked.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 31, 2020 09:36 PM (Do5/p)

761

Small crowd at Kinzie and State throwing bricks. That's Trump Tower. White bitch and some dude in a black hoodie. Sounds like they got them. They got the bitch at least

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:36 PM (+rNWB)

762 If you are cowering in your urban apartment now as looters and rioters cavort outside, are you for or against the Second Amendment? It was easy when you thought you could call 911 and the police would respond. It was easy when it was somewhere else. Me? I'd rather reach for my shotgun than my cellphone when the shit hits the fan and society breaks down.

Posted by: jeff carter at May 31, 2020 09:36 PM (eeyFM)

763 "Please do not call 911 to report looting. We are aware of the
situation and are actively working it. NORCOM911 is getting inundated
with calls about looting and the lines need to be left open for emergencies. Thank you!

NOT the Onion -

https://tinyurl.com/y88zso82

Posted by: RondinellaMamma

----------------

You want the police to show up? Tell them someone is shooting the looters.

Posted by: irright


Officer! Officer! They're shooting the looters at the Food King!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2020 09:37 PM (4RRDi)

764 They are interrupting police communications.



Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:23 PM (zr5Kq)

it should be the opposite, shut down their social media and cell phones. There is all kinds of tech out there like sonic weapons such as lrad. The cell phones are 90 percent of this, there should be a way to knock them out in a targeted way.

Posted by: Quint at May 31, 2020 09:37 PM (hHxp2)

765 https://mobile.twitter.com/marcorubio/status/ 1267189079717879810

Various domestic terror groups on BOTH far left & right are instigating & committing acts of violence & looting.

They are stealing the focus away from the murder of Mr. Floyd & the legitimate problems it revealed.

(Rubio gets the wall)

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2020 09:37 PM (p0Y1J)

766 Frigging Champagne Socialists. Hate em. Know a ton of them.

Posted by: jeff carter at May 31, 2020 09:37 PM (eeyFM)

767 Donna&&&&&&,

Prayers for your nephew. May God keep watch over him and all other firefighters, protect them, and bring them home to their families safe and sound.

Posted by: Floridachick at May 31, 2020 09:37 PM (WqkRF)

768 Let the record show that the crowd started the violence in KCMO, by throwing things at the cops a half hour after the curfew started.

Posted by: filbert at May 31, 2020 09:38 PM (NiXyF)

769 The astonishing and outrageous stunt back in '13, when the Park Service spent money and effort to block the WWII Memorial (an open area with no NPS staffing required or normal, AFAIK), so that *elderly vets - some of whom had made once-in-lifetime trips to DC just for this, could not see their memorial* - to me that's as good as any as a time it was clear the country was no longer a familiar one.

Generational change, sure.

But there was absolutely zero political consequences for that. Nada.

And BTW, this was all part of Shut-down Theater to block O-care, a stupid unconstitutional disastrous bit of idiocy that financially body-slammed 15M+ people while doing nothing to "help" anyone that couldn't have been done with simple welfare hand-outs.

Wasn't the beginning, but at that point I recall feeling little connection to the country as it runs itself these days.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 09:38 PM (El6T/)

770 Spokane, so far no violence reported.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 09:38 PM (KnJdm)

771 UGH... DC is getting sporty again, and I really DO live here. Crap.

Posted by: Jesse in DC at May 31, 2020 09:38 PM (ouR/N)

772 Well, Imonna crawl in bed and read or watch TV. Had a
wonderful, relaxing dinner with husband in a lovely setting at a
restaurant tonight. Two cocktails, great food, and I didn't have to
clean up take out even.


Later all. Unless I get restless and try to comment from my stupid phone.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 09:36 PM (ptqGC)

Night Jane, peace and safety to you and yours.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 31, 2020 09:38 PM (nAiE/)

773 Pug, if you and your wifu have aluminum softball bats you BETTER have softballs and gloves to go with them if you are stopped. Just saying.

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2020 09:39 PM (XhWtx)

774 Weasel, thanks for giving the 1917 some publicity. I've shot the Games matches at Perry for years now and for the Vintage Class the 1917 is the most popular rifle, ahead of the K31 Swiss and Swede Mauser.
Mine shoots similar to yours, 2 MOA+/- and the long barrel makes offhand shooting easier IMHO. Prices for a nice 1917 have certainly gone up lately and are close to the Springfield in value.

Posted by: CMP Shooter at May 31, 2020 09:39 PM (HuCTk)

775 https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/ 1267198074092498944

Barr about to unmask all of Antifa's communications with their media and political allies

Now you know why so many people are freaking out today

(1st pandemic erection confirmed)

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 31, 2020 09:39 PM (p0Y1J)

776 Frigging Champagne Socialists. Hate em. Know a ton of them.

Posted by: jeff carter at May 31, 2020 09:37 PM (eeyFM)


I wonder how many of these Antifa shitheads are kids of the champagne socialists?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:39 PM (+rNWB)

777
I have an aluminum tee-ball bat in my truck. Not elegant, but it has just the right range for close-in head bashing.

that said, it's not my only means of defense.

Wife has one in her car as well. It's pink, b-cuz girl.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Mask-less at May 31, 2020 09:31 PM


I was told by a LEO years ago that if you're going to keep a bat in you vehicle, to get a glove & a ball and keep it in there, too.

Logic being: having a bat, ball, & glove makes the bat "sporting goods" and if you have to use it for self defense, you just grabbed the first thing handy.

Having just the bat could be construed as "looking for trouble"

YMMV; it was a long time ago but it sounded like solid advice at the time

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2020 09:39 PM (Iq8IA)

778 Posted by: Quint at May 31, 2020 09:37 PM (hHxp2)

Cell phone comm is a great tracking tool.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 31, 2020 09:40 PM (NZbXf)

779 ANTIFA desecrated World War 2 memorial in Washington DC tonight.



Democrats Para-Military wing desecrated World War 2 memorial in Washington DC tonight.

Suggested re-write.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 31, 2020 09:23 PM (dxKvt)


Same one Barry put barricades around so actual WWII couldn't see it?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 31, 2020 09:40 PM (1g7ch)

780

Haven't shot any of my stuff in probably 4 yes.
Long story.

Yesterday, first time in at least 7 with my M1991A1.

28 feet
7 within 2 inches of bull.
Largest spread around 3 3/4 in.

Adequate?
Not being sarcastic or whatever.
Truly.
I know lots of folks here put that to shame and well, with my 65 year old eyes and don't go to "real" ranges and stuff, I just don't know.

Posted by: TeeJ at May 31, 2020 09:40 PM (RwXje)

781 Thanks flounder.

I hope you and Ms Flou der and the little flou ders hada lovely road trip. Please email me so e of the adventures.
Your boys are a treasure.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2020 09:40 PM (U2p+3)

782 Thanks, Weasel. You're the bestest. Be safe tomorrow, all you morons. Be armed if possible and avoid crowds, all crowds.

Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2020 09:40 PM (XhWtx)

783 I wonder how many monuments and memorials in DC will be desecrated tonight. They have already spread graffiti on The Lincoln Memorial.

Posted by: Quint at May 31, 2020 09:41 PM (hHxp2)

784 774 Weasel, thanks for giving the 1917 some publicity. I've shot the Games matches at Perry for years now and for the Vintage Class the 1917 is the most popular rifle, ahead of the K31 Swiss and Swede Mauser.
Mine shoots similar to yours, 2 MOA+/- and the long barrel makes offhand shooting easier IMHO. Prices for a nice 1917 have certainly gone up lately and are close to the Springfield in value.
Posted by: CMP Shooter at May 31, 2020 09:39 PM (HuCTk)
--------
Thanks, CMP Shooter! Nice to have you here. They're great rifles, aren't they?

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:41 PM (MVjcR)

785

They got both of the shitheads throwing bricks by Trump Tower. That's not too far from NBC Tower and Trib Tower. I'd like to see them hit those commies

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:41 PM (+rNWB)

786 You want the police to show up? Tell them someone is shooting the looters.

Posted by: irright

stealing that

Posted by: vmom at May 31, 2020 09:41 PM (btJAX)

787 Rubio is full of s**t. He is pandering to the liberal hispanics in South FL. He wins because the Democrat opponent is so much worse. If he gets primaried by a strong conservative instead of a gop puppet Rubio is toast. I hope that happens next time he is up for reelection and Trump throws his support to whomever primaries Rubio.

Posted by: Floridachick at May 31, 2020 09:41 PM (WqkRF)

788 Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2020 09:39 PM (Iq8IA)

I'm 61. Solid Harwood Cane that belonged to me Grandfather.

Add it a little bit of Bar-Jiutsu? A martial art created in the early 1900s specifically for a gentleman?

How to use a cane, how to use your hat to hide your attacks, things like that.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 31, 2020 09:41 PM (NgKpN)

789 I know lots of folks here put that to shame and well, with my 65 year old eyes and don't go to "real" ranges and stuff, I just don't know.
Posted by: TeeJ at May 31, 2020 09:40 PM (RwXje)

Nice shooting Teej!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 31, 2020 09:41 PM (Z+IKu)

790 "My boyfriend said I got gonorrhea from riding the tractor in my bathing suit."

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Posted by: Sophie's boyfriend at May 31, 2020 09:42 PM (Tnijr)

791 Posted by: Jesse in DC at May 31, 2020 09:38 PM (ouR/N)

I lived there for quite a while - all 4 quadrants and MD and VA. I heard they're defacing the monuments. Is it basically the WH area that has been damaged? What about Dupont Circle, K Street, Georgetown, Capitol Hill?

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&V at May 31, 2020 09:42 PM (HabA/)

792 Chicago cops just issued use force when needed order. Definitely use force

About fucking time. Enough already. Local tv just had Madison, WI mayor on. Cufew tonight on info from Chicago PD that southsiders are moving north, lol. Like WI doesn't hate us enough already.

Posted by: dartist at May 31, 2020 09:43 PM (K22Va)

793 751 @Romeo13 , they want to push him to make mistakes, this is more than volatile. then they can pile on, make it impossible to have him reelected. constant chaos, news cycle of riots.
Posted by: runner at May 31, 2020 09:35 PM (zr5Kq)

They want to create chaos fatigue. They want people to throw up their hands in November and vote Trump out just to stop the madness.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 31, 2020 09:43 PM (H8QX8)

794 Posted by: AltonJackson at May 31, 2020 09:39 PM (Iq8IA)

the horde has.previously advised a tire iron

Posted by: vmom at May 31, 2020 09:43 PM (btJAX)

795 Posted by: TeeJ at May 31, 2020 09:40 PM (RwXje)
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Nothing in the world wrong with that!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:43 PM (MVjcR)

796 The endgame of the urban guerilla movement isn't to win, it's to create doubt in the minds of the people that their government can protect them. They're succeeding at that beyond their wildest dreams.

It's only one prong of the strategy. Winning an election with a broad-based coalition is another part. A coalition with Joe Biden as the weak figurehead would work, but I don't think they really expect to win this time. AOC or someone like her will be the nominee in 2024.

The third part is to create so much economic destruction that Medicare for All, universal basic income, student debt forgiveness, and building a Green New Deal become mainstream ideas.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 31, 2020 09:43 PM (jK8Z7)

797 Well, Imonna crawl in bed and read or watch TV. Had a
wonderful, relaxing dinner with husband in a lovely setting at a
restaurant tonight. Two cocktails, great food, and I didn't have to
clean up take out even.


Later all. Unless I get restless and try to comment from my stupid phone.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 31, 2020 09:36 PM (ptqGC)

Rubio is full of spit. There is zero proof of anyone but Antifa and BLM rioting.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 31, 2020 09:43 PM (nAiE/)

798

They are really tearing up my old neighborhood. Some are trying to close Lake Shore Drive while others are continuing north.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:44 PM (J/mmb)

799 @777: "Having just the bat could be construed as 'looking for trouble'."

Like wise, if you keep ski masks in your car, you need to bring along some skis and poles, but don't bring a snowboard, or else they'll toss your car looking for drugs.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at May 31, 2020 09:44 PM (+oVP5)

800 Posted by: Eromero at May 31, 2020 09:40 PM (XhWtx)
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Thanks, pal. You too!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:44 PM (MVjcR)

801 777 Also, if you can't carry a gun, carry a cane if you need it or not (most times I do). You can put a pretty good thumping on a bad guy if you know what you're doing, and nothing can be said about possessing it. If you need the cane in your strong hand and carry, have a plan for dropping it and drawing your gun (I have a little drill for that).

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 31, 2020 09:44 PM (C1Lsn)

802 781 Thanks flounder.

I hope you and Ms Flou der and the little flou ders hada lovely road trip. Please email me so e of the adventures.
Your boys are a treasure.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 31, 2020 09:40 PM (U2p+3)

Thanks. Most exciting thing was the storm coming north out of OR. The running of tge tumbleweeds, the overturned semi, the flash flooding over part of 395 N, the high winds and lightning shows. We pretty much followed it N/NE.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 09:44 PM (KnJdm)

803 771 UGH... DC is getting sporty again, and I really DO live here. Crap.
Posted by: Jesse in DC



I'm across the river in VA. Hang in there. I am glad I know longer work in downtown DC. No violence or protests out in the burbs. Quiet except for the sirens going elsewhere.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 31, 2020 09:44 PM (dxKvt)

804 Thanks for the great thread as usual Weasel.

Posted by: Quint at May 31, 2020 09:45 PM (hHxp2)

805 Fancy shooting kudo's to Jim with the Snubbies. Lynyrd Skynyrd something something Big Jim will shoot you right between the eyes...

Posted by: DBCooper at May 31, 2020 09:45 PM (y1Mvi)

806 oh here's the Plague ep of The Dead Zone

Posted by: vmom at May 31, 2020 09:45 PM (btJAX)

807 wow, lotta posts today. Not sure I'll catch up in time

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2020 09:45 PM (d1uFV)

808 Philly dispatcher can't understand why one of her own is chasing two suspects.

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2020 09:45 PM (8DRUP)

809 Whatever you do, DON'T read that POS Rubio's twitter feed.

Holy hell what an effing useless waste of space.

Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 09:45 PM (cF8AT)

810 We are in no danger here but we have family and friends in the mess. Please , all of you who may be close to this, have an escape plan and some means if defending yourself. You can't wait until they are the only ext street over. They are out for blood.

Posted by: Megthered at May 31, 2020 09:46 PM (LC2+R)

811 9th & Broadway, L.A., man w/AK47

Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 09:46 PM (4iHoC)

812

Heard one of the cops who got the brick throwers near Trump Tower, "You motherfuckers!" I hope some skulls get cracked tonight.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:46 PM (J/mmb)

813 Hello Weasel, I've got this funky smell on my hands, case lube from Herters back in the 60's..

Posted by: rancherbob at May 31, 2020 09:46 PM (gtu9W)

814 You got gonorrhea from a tractor?? And you call *that* your tractor story??

Alright, that's it for me. You've been great. Goodnight everybody!

Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld at May 31, 2020 09:47 PM (Do5/p)

815 Looking at the WGN live stream, NG moving in.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 31, 2020 09:47 PM (r+sAi)

816 rancherbob and Cowgirl Jennifer,

May your anniversary be blessed with happiness.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 31, 2020 09:47 PM (u82oZ)

817 811 9th & Broadway, L.A., man w/AK47
Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 09:46 PM (4iHoC)

Which could me AK47, AR-15 or a pump shotgun.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 31, 2020 09:48 PM (A5zUN)

818 Arrestees are being transported from downtown Lansing. Sounds like neighboring counties are providing transport.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 31, 2020 09:48 PM (t+qrx)

819 A few thoughts, for posterity as the music plays and the dancing begins...

I have my 'lines' in my head, lines that if someone crosses, I'm ok with using noisemakers on them to make them stop.

I hope everyone has mentally prepared themselves, to be ready and able to dance with the time comes.

Guns are going to be important. Make sure you have one. If, for some reason, you don't have one....CDNN Sports has two very good pistols for sale for under $300: the SDVE by S&W and the Walther Creed. Both are pretty darn good, even at that price point.

Even a Ruger 10/22 is very much better than nothing.

Gun up, buy ammo and get your mental lines drawn.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2020 09:48 PM (d1uFV)

820 They are really tearing up my old neighborhood. Some are trying to close Lake Shore Drive while others are continuing north.

Heads up Cheeseland!

Posted by: dartist at May 31, 2020 09:48 PM (K22Va)

821 Tear gas deployed in Spokane.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 09:48 PM (KnJdm)

822 804 Thanks for the great thread as usual Weasel.
Posted by: Quint at May 31, 2020 09:45 PM (hHxp2)
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Thank you Quint, and thanks for spending some of your weekend here!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:48 PM (MVjcR)

823 they want to push him to make mistakes, this is more than volatile. then they can pile on, make it impossible to have him reelected. constant chaos, news cycle of riots.

It must be driving them nuts. Our besieged President is constantly on the defensive, fending off waves of attacks. He's in reactive mode. ...and yet he is always five steps ahead. How can that be, I wonder?

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2020 09:49 PM (jacU8)

824 Link to article on monuments

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7cp8354

Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 09:49 PM (kOpft)

825

WGN - Protests against the killings of black people at the hands of police continued for a third day in Chicago Sunday, and while demonstrations have been peaceful, there have been reports of looting and other damage across the Chicagoland area.



Reports? Reports? All the destruction must just be an illusion

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:49 PM (J/mmb)

826 AK47 owner was Asian protecting his business.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 09:49 PM (4iHoC)

827 813 Hello Weasel, I've got this funky smell on my hands, case lube from Herters back in the 60's..
Posted by: rancherbob at May 31, 2020 09:46 PM (gtu9W)
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I'm a Redding case lube man, myself!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 09:49 PM (MVjcR)

828 Actually, I can't watch a plague ep right now - too triggering

Posted by: vmom at May 31, 2020 09:50 PM (btJAX)

829 >>>At some point, someone is gonna shoot one of them and all hell will break loose; the state will come down on the shooter. Hard. And then everyone will fall in line.


So what you are saying is the first choice for your average suburban block defense is a funnelator and half bricks?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 31, 2020 09:51 PM (1g7ch)

830 TeeJ...that's good enough shooting, for sure.

But, think Carnegie Hall. Practice, Practice, Practice.

*** break ***


..I got gonorrhea from a tractor. I did. My boyfriend said I got gonorrhea from riding the tractor in my bathing suit.

Posted by: Sophie, who rides tractors in her bathing suit at May 31, 2020 09:33 PM (Do5/p)



Did your M.D. concur with that as a medical certainty?

And then the next question, is who was on that tractor seat before you?

Either way, I'm thinking you missed the correct opportunity to plough that boyfriend down into next year's crops.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX


Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 09:51 PM (QzJWU)

831 I'm old enough to remember the Coronavirus.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 31, 2020 09:52 PM (vuisn)

832 where'd y'all go?

Posted by: vmom at May 31, 2020 09:52 PM (btJAX)

833 Whatever you do, DON'T read that POS Rubio's twitter feed.

Holy hell what an effing useless waste of space.
Posted by: Tami

Okay

Posted by: JT at May 31, 2020 09:52 PM (arJlL)

834 Whatever you do, DON'T read that POS Rubio's twitter feed.



Holy hell what an effing useless waste of space.

Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 09:45 PM (cF8AT)

Hopefully he is getting ratioed by people who actually have accounts.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 31, 2020 09:53 PM (nAiE/)

835 Even a Ruger 10/22 is very much better than nothing.

Gun up, buy ammo and get your mental lines drawn.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards


Aim for joints. Joints don't work too well when polluted with lead bits.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 31, 2020 09:53 PM (4RRDi)

836 806

oh here's the Plague ep of The Dead Zone

Posted by: vmom at May 31, 2020 09:45 PM

The doctor in that episode is the actor who played Ned Ryerson in Groundhog Day and Cosmo Kramer's holistic healer friend in Seinfeld.

I think I would be laughing my ass off at his diagnoses in The Dead Zone episode, thinking instead of his other characters, even though it's supposed to be a serious episode about plague.

TOR: You see, you are in disharmony. The throat is the gateway to the lung. Tonsillitis, adenoiditis, is, in Chinese medical terms, an invasion of heat and wind.

JERRY: There's some hot air blowing in here...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 31, 2020 09:53 PM (Do5/p)

837 I don't know if there have been riots in Raleigh or not, but it's pretty quiet out here in Franklin County. --GGE


Hey GGE! Raleigh got a little crazy last night but it was all downtown. Same tonight, might get a little crazier as it gets later. But it's all focused in a small area right downtown. Over here in Durham it was actually pretty peaceful last night but I'm still ready to hit the road if necessary. Not enough rioters to move out from downtown...yet. I was in LA for the '92 riots and this is nothing like that here...yet. I'm still buying a shotgun tomorrow tho. Fuck me for waiting this long.

Posted by: NC Ref at May 31, 2020 09:53 PM (AOmVJ)

838 We're loading mags.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 31, 2020 09:53 PM (KnJdm)

839

These police dispatchers should know the city better. They want cars at 1800 North Astor. There is no 1800 Astor. Astor ends at North Ave which is 1600.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:53 PM (J/mmb)

840 Next, I DID get to the range, despite thunderstorms and rain.

I did some cross body shooting, making sure if I do have to shoot....oh, say out the driver's side window at communists beating on my car, I can hit heads at 5 yards.

I could and did. Nice drill, will try it again next week.

Also took the car guns for a whirl, shooting my old, old GEN 3 G17. Did ok at 7 yards but wasn't as good a group as with my CZ P-07. Most of that is trigger differences. I'll practice more next week and see if I can tighten it up.

I did notice a bad flinch this week. It wasn't obvious at 5 yards double taps, but it did show up at the 7 yard double tap and Mozambique drills. Some dry firing....all right, a LOT of dry firing, cleared it up. Worth doing dry fire first before shooting live rounds during a range session.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 31, 2020 09:54 PM (d1uFV)

841 You don't tug on Superman's cape

You don't spit into the wind
and
You don't mess around with JIM

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 09:54 PM (dtTz3)

842 "Complete the sequence, Mr. President."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 31, 2020 09:55 PM (vuisn)

843 Trump isn't close to understanding what the Left is doing or how to stop it. I love him, but he's stuck in some illusory world of America being united and great. This isn't happening without war, and he's not committed to the idea of it. Designating Antifa a terrorist group (way late for this) sounds good but it's a half-measure, and it won't be followed up.

They're committed to war, we're not.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 31, 2020 09:55 PM (H8QX8)

844 I am appreciating the reports here from people on the ground near the riots.
Watching TV news on line and it's mostly, "Peaceful protests and demonstrators".
Except it isn't.


You can search for police scanners on broadcastify.com. I'm listening to Philly since I have to go in to the airport this week.

Posted by: t-bird at May 31, 2020 09:55 PM (ZS2+d)

845

They just passed my old apartment building.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:55 PM (J/mmb)

846 Mayor DeBlasio's daughter arrested at Manhattan protest

Posted by: vmom at May 31, 2020 09:55 PM (btJAX)

847 Why don't they use the fucking hose??

Posted by: Jame Gumb at May 31, 2020 09:55 PM (l3+k2)

848
28 feet
7 within 2 inches of bull.
Largest spread around 3 3/4 in.

Adequate?
Not being sarcastic or whatever.
Truly.
I know lots of folks here put that to shame and well, with my 65 year old eyes and don't go to "real" ranges and stuff, I just don't know.
Posted by: TeeJ at May 31, 2020 09:40 PM (RwXje)


TeeJ, I for one would not like to be 28 feet away from you, trying to piss you off.

Good on you for getting out there. I have been slacking myself, and need to do better.

What will be interesting is how much better you will do next time. Guessing you will see improvement.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 09:56 PM (sy5kK)

849 Fox News told me that he deliberately drove into a bunch of peaceful marchers.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 31, 2020 08:17 PM (aKsyK)

He must have not put the hammer down hard enough, then. And there are no "peaceful" marchers now. Once the riots began, any such gathering is a riot waiting to happen.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2020 09:56 PM (dt7aG)

850 841
You don't tug on Superman's cape



You don't spit into the wind

and

You don't mess around with JIM

Posted by: Ben Had at May 31, 2020 09:54 PM (dtTz3)
Damn right!






















Posted by: rancherbob at May 31, 2020 09:57 PM (gtu9W)

851 So - we have our first Roof Korean sighting? In LA, home of Roof Koreans?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 31, 2020 09:57 PM (El6T/)

852

Why the hell don't they just round up all of this scum and arrest them and tell Leftfoot and Jabba to get fcked

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:57 PM (J/mmb)

853

Thanks H.G. and Weasel.

Thing is, first 40 yrs of life I had eyesight to die for.
Hands were much steadier, too.
Shooting was so easy. I could just take it for granted.

Also discovered my dimes, at worst nickles running Stingers through my 10-22 at approx 30 yards have turned to quarters.
That. Sucked.

Oh, the 7mm post "work" will be ok.
Lousy platform to shoot from and 1.5 at 100 yes.
It did come back about 5 in low and right so that took a few adjustments.

Posted by: TeeJ at May 31, 2020 09:58 PM (RwXje)

854 ONT is nood.

Posted by: mikeski at May 31, 2020 09:58 PM (P1f+c)

855 833 Whatever you do, DON'T read that POS Rubio's twitter feed.

Holy hell what an effing useless waste of space.
Posted by: Tami

Okay
Posted by: JT at May 31, 2020 09:52 PM (arJlL)

LOL!

I deserved that!

Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 09:59 PM (cF8AT)

856 Now a few hundred conglomorating in Bellevue near Bel-Square.

A long close up of the crowd, and it seems everyone has a multi-hundred dollar outfit on.

Not a pair of blue jeans or a scruffy jacket in the bunch.

Another 1500 or so in another march a few blocks away. Again, no jeans. Very stylish dressers.

It's Bellevue.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 31, 2020 10:00 PM (sy5kK)

857 >We're loading mags.
Posted by: flounder


all mine are loaded- checked a while ago
5 for the USP, 3 for the 9mm, plus more ammo.
Haven't loaded The Judge but there's a box of ammo for it right here on my coffee table.


Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 10:00 PM (iTXRQ)

858 WGN - Protests against the killings of black people at the hands of police continued for a third day in Chicago Sunday, and while demonstrations have been peaceful, there have been reports of looting and other damage across the Chicagoland area.

Protests against the killings of hundreds of black people at the hands of unpoliced blacks... yeah, we don't have those.

Posted by: "Inner City Leaders" at May 31, 2020 10:01 PM (SwCv8)

859 curses nooded again

Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 31, 2020 10:01 PM (iTXRQ)

860 BREAKING: President Trump moved to underground bunker on Friday as riot mobs advanced on White House


This is absolutely insane!
Posted by: Tami at May 31, 2020 08:26 PM (cF8AT)

Well, now they can touch off a neutron bomb 10,000 feet over DC, and President Trump will be safe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2020 10:05 PM (dt7aG)

861 Various domestic terror groups on BOTH far left right are instigating committing acts of violence looting.

---

I keep waiting to see this mythical far right violence

Posted by: Methos at May 31, 2020 10:05 PM (kOpft)

862 Arrestees ought to be left to stew in confinement for a while. "Oops, folks are busted at the city jail. Been a rough few days. Sorry, Mommy. Sorry, Daddy. Sorry Daddy's golf buddy the lawyer, there's just so many of them, ya know? Hard to keep track. Your little ray of sunshine's in there somewhere probably. I'm sure we'll find...excuse me, what's the subject's prononun?...ah, xerm. OK. Just hang around the courthouse. When we arraign xerm you'll see xerm and maybe post bail. I don't know how long. Jeez, just so many of them...a week, maybe?"

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 31, 2020 10:05 PM (ja/kn)

863 The ONT has been deployed.

I repeat.

The ONT has been deployed.




Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 31, 2020 10:05 PM (QzJWU)

864 OK, thanks again everyone! Goodnight!

Posted by: Weasel at May 31, 2020 10:06 PM (4FPVQ)

865

Thank YOU. Weasel.
Now to watch vid and read comments from beginning.

Posted by: TeeJ at May 31, 2020 10:08 PM (RwXje)

866 Thx as always, Weasel !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 31, 2020 10:10 PM (XXrUA)

867 852

Why the hell don't they just round up all of this scum and arrest them and tell Leftfoot and Jabba to get fcked

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 31, 2020 09:57 PM (J/mmb)


County, City, an NG radios don't talk to each other.
They are out numbered. - Haven't heard a call for one wagon.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 31, 2020 10:11 PM (4iHoC)

868 My brother decided I've been having too much fun shooting my AR's and decided he wants one. I felt lucky to find a Palmetto kit, SS barrel, mid length gas system and nice magpul furniture for $520 free shipping. I just happen to have a stripped lower in the gun cabinet. I was lucky enough to get it in the hands of UPS before the kung flu, oops I mean insurrection got off the ground. So Friday I'll get a nice new shiny rifle. They're coming in about a month so we'll build it together. Had a couple of good days at the range but Friday it was 97 so I ordered a beach chair umbrella to mount on the bench.

Posted by: ck at May 31, 2020 10:16 PM (Gf0Po)

869 I'm very happy to be far away from the riots. If I was in an area where bricks and waters were being left for antifa it would be really tempting to cut and paint some foam bricks to swap in; maybe swap out some cases of water for bottles filled with vinegar instead or just dump a bunch of salt into the water or something.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 31, 2020 08:44 PM (T9Hmo)

I would be digging into that pallet of bricks, go down 4 or 5 layers in the middle, place 2 sticks of capped dynamite, and pile the bricks back. Rig it so removing one particular brick from the edge of the pile closes the circuit to the dynamite cap.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2020 10:18 PM (dt7aG)

870 TeeJ, if you're still here ...

Saw your post up above; that all sounds like solid "center body mass" hits to me. Good enough.
That's pretty much where I am at, too; I'll never be the marksman that the guy in that church shooting is, the one who dropped the shooter with a single head shot from about 40 feet.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 31, 2020 10:25 PM (XXrUA)

871 You know, aside from intimidation factor, a baseball bat you'd think would be far more effective and less likely to damage the wielder than a 3 foot length of 2x4 with nails in it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 31, 2020 09:28 PM (A5zUN)

The crappy lumber they sell these days, you could get a nasty splinter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2020 10:41 PM (GdRAq)

872 Agreed. That's one of the goals here. They can't wait for some poor bastard to get backed up against a wall and have to defend himself.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 31, 2020 09:35 PM (EgshT)

They are looking for their Horst Wessel.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 31, 2020 10:45 PM (GdRAq)

873 Well well....


Seems here in L.A (they doth protest too much!)

But not without a permit.......Wait for it....

YOU CAN PEACEABLY PROTEST HERE WITH A PERMIT.

AND L.A HAS BEEN GRANTING PU-KU permits to do ...just....that.

SSSOOOOOoo...any chance you city brain trusts give a HEAD'S UP!!! to any business owners in the area you've just given another PERMIT TO????


Smells like teen spir......wasted/degraded/corrupted and a de-facto take down on the rule of LAW.....ya all remember that for-shizz/ (won't even lower myself) like this is all going down yet..... I just saw a saint stomping into my post................wth

Posted by: The Nightwatch at June 01, 2020 12:26 AM (u1WYs)

874 Got Error 403 on the comments thread for the ONT.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 01, 2020 12:55 AM (Ume4b)

875 Weasel, hope you got my email Saturday.

Posted by: GWB at June 01, 2020 01:31 AM (o61E1)

876 Weaseldog for the win!

Posted by: m at June 01, 2020 05:22 AM (zcb42)

877 The rifle in the picture is a Krag-Jorgenson not a M1917

Posted by: TNTPro at June 01, 2020 08:25 AM (ey/b/)

878 The rifle in the picture is a Krag-Jorgenson not a M1917
Posted by: TNTPro at June 01, 2020 08:25 AM (ey/b/)
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Yep. That's why I included the caption "Not a M1917"

Posted by: Weasel at June 01, 2020 11:44 AM (RrqtM)

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The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat