Gun Thread: Memorial Day Weekend Edition! [Weasel]

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It's Memorial Day Weekend, traditionally the start of summer with parades, backyard barbecues and long lazy days. How this Memorial Day is celebrated in the Age of Stupidity and "social distancing" remains to be seen, but all too often the real meaning of the holiday is overlooked. It's a day to remember and honor those who have given their lives in military service to our Nation. It's a debt we carry which can never be repaid, but each of us can take the time to reflect upon, and be thankful for, the ones who made the ultimate sacrifice and make certain we are in some way worthy of their precious gift to us.

And with that said, let's get to the gun stuff, shall we?

First up, our pal Sua Sponte sends in the following range report:

I had been researching and reading many articles and watching many reviews on the Ruger 22LR Precision, a scaled down version of their Precision Series, for quite some time and finally decided to, pardon the pun, pull the trigger. I often find myself doing way more contemplating and research prior to most purchases, bit of an OCD type, however, that has led me to making pretty much zero regret purchases.

Anyhow, this thing is a tack driver right out of the box. It didn't come with the scope or bipod. I had both laying around and let's face it, you can't just have a scope and bipod laying around not attached to anything.

These were the first rounds I put through it (Aguila Super Extra CPRN; 40 grain; 1255FPS) and plan on seeing what it can do from 100y and more with other types of ammunition. With 22LR still being fairly available and inexpensive, it makes for a great day of plinking.

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Aguila Super Extra - 75 Yards

I went back out with much calmer winds and put a target up at 50 yards. I've just been having all kinds of fun with this rifle. Plan on doing a bit more testing with other ammunition once I can get my hands on it.

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Aguila SE CPRN

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CCI Mini Mag

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CCI Standard Velocity

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Winchester Super X CPHP

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Aguila SE LRN

So here we have a nicely documented range test using several types of .22LR ammunition. What is your analysis of the results?

Nicely done, Sua Sponte!! I am happy to see someone else who appreciates plinking with a .22 as much as I do. Keep up the good work!

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Next, our pal Butch made it to the range and sends the following:

I finally went to the range today; its been six months. Still pushing down; I need to do this on a regular basis.

I took my S&W 6906 semi-auto, DA/SA, 9mm. It was a LEO trade in. I cannot recommend this pistol highly enough. Currently, Aim Surplus has them available @ $390 each. They also have S&W 15-round mags at $15 a pop.

While I was there, I foolishly checked out the counter wares. I took home a FN Browning BDA, .380 ACP. Basically a Beretta Cheetah 85 without the open slide top.

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Here's a video review of the Model 6906 by AIM Surplus:

Nice job Butch, and congratulations on the new pistol! I don't know about you all, but $390 for that pistol is awfully tempting, but unfortunately they're sold out now.

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Our pal redc1c4 sent this link to a nice reloading video series on the SITKA website.

Thanks redc1c4!

And as long as we're talking about reloading, here are some words of reloading wisdom from Midsouth Shooters Supply.

So you've bought ammo, or carefully made your own ammo, now what? Here's an article on proper ammunition storage again from Midsouth.

Much to my pleasant surprise, ammunition seems to be coming back earlier than I expected it would. I checked a couple of the links shown below and popular calibers are beginning to reappear. Please, I'm begging you now - if you're one of the people caught short when the recent hysteria began, please, please, please make it a priority to start stocking up as you can. OK? Please? It's ging to happen again, and it may be sooner than you think.

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Virginia

Elections have consequences as we've famously heard, and you know what influences elections? Jackass dipshit politicians pissing off the voters, that's what. Staunton is a charming city in west central Virginia, and has been a reliable democratic stronghold in an otherwise conservative part of the state for years. However, this past week saw a huge shift in local politics when Republicans swept four open seats on the City Council, flipping the city from blue to red. Think any of the recent gun grabbing bullshit had anything to do with this?

Here's an article from the Agusta Free Press describing what happened and what it could mean for the Democrats going forward.

I'm really happy to see this, but we have to stay engaged. Wondering what you can do? How about learning a little more about grassroots activism through Free Grassroots Activist Training presented by the Second Amendment Foundation and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

From the Virginia Shooting Sports Association (VSSA):

The Second Amendment Foundation and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms will host a series of FREE online grassroots training sessions run by Glen Caroline. Glen recently joined SAF and CCRKBA as their Director of External Affairs. Most recently, he worked for NRA for 29 years, primarily as NRA's Managing Director of Grassroots Programs & Campaign Field Operations.

There will be three recurring training sessions. The content will be the same, but SAF wants to give individuals the flexibility to choose the one that best fits their individual schedules. The sessions are FREE and will last roughly one hour. The summits will take place on Tuesday, May 26th 7:00 Eastern Time, Wendesday, May 27, 7:00 PM Central Time, and Thursday May 28th, 7:00 PM Pacific Time. Just click on the date that fits your schedule to register for the summit. We all know what happened in this year's session of the General Assembly. We can't let that happen on the federal level. Choose the session that works best for you, register, then log in next week!

This seems like a great way to learn what's going on and to find out how you can help.

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Free Shit
Free is good, right? I mean, who doesn't like free shit? Follow this link to free printable targets courtesy of Alien Gear Holsters. All you need is a printer and some 8.5 x 11 paper to print your own![h/t redc1c4]

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ATTENTION NoVaMoMe 2020!!

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Sad people who cannot make the new NoVaMoMe date of August 29th

Due the Chinese Cooties hysteria in Virginia, the NoVaMoMe 2020 has been postponed until Saturday, August 29th. The time and location remain the same. If you haven't already, please check your email and let the Central Planning Committee know if you are able to make the new date. If not, your registration fee will be refunded and we will open your spot to those on the wait list. Questions? Just email us at NoVaMoMe2020 at gee mail dot com. Thank you!

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Link-O-Rama

I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA

***Mail Bag***

For those of you frightened and confused by the free diagnostic targets linked above, here is a simplified version. [h/t Butch]

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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1 Ready on the firing line

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2020 07:00 PM (ZCEU2)

2 Dutifully called them

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2020 07:02 PM (ZCEU2)

3 This is the earliest I've ever joined a thread. I'm not really sure what to do...

Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at May 24, 2020 07:04 PM (F2VXi)

4 No sadly can't go anywhere except to get food.

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2020 07:04 PM (ZCEU2)

5 Whoo-hoo! Pew pew pew, brisket, 3.5 lb bass and fireworks.

'Merica!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2020 07:04 PM (8oSoU)

6 Glen we sit and wait

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2020 07:04 PM (ZCEU2)

7 This is the earliest I've ever joined a thread. I'm not really sure what to do...
Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker


Remove pants. Manspread. Relax.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2020 07:05 PM (8oSoU)

8 Ahhh. The Manly Moron Thread.
Except we luvs the Ettes, too!

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 07:07 PM (ebxKR)

9 I thought the kids were banned from flag duty?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2020 07:07 PM (aKsyK)

10 Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at May 24, 2020 07:04 PM (F2VXi)
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Welcome to the Gun Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:07 PM (+c1jw)

11 I went and picked up my new rifle. A Mossberg Blaze .22lr. Half an hour of free range time came with the rifle. Fired 50 rounds of cci minmag. Two magazines worth. 2 jambs on the first mag but as the oil lubed it , none on the 2nd.

Posted by: I plink, therefore I am at May 24, 2020 07:09 PM (/LQkF)

12 I have three guns I need parts for sitting patiently in zip lock bags. Good ol' Numrich is the only outfit that has what I need, and they're shut down by imperial decree from Albany. Why any firearms related business would remain in NY or like states is beyond me.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 24, 2020 07:10 PM (C1Lsn)

13 Outdoor ranges are open in New Jersey as of Friday. Did not go to mine as they had a limit on the amount of people. Figured everyone and their mother who was a member would show up. Will instead wait a week or two and take a day off mid week.As far as New York ranges, have not heard anything so I am assuming they are closed.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2020 07:11 PM (uyKdz)

14 Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 24, 2020 07:10 PM (C1Lsn)
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That's idiotic.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:12 PM (+c1jw)

15 Haven't been to the range this week, but just checked and it appears that the remodel at my range is finished and they are now open for business! This week for sure!

Posted by: Old Blue at May 24, 2020 07:12 PM (VNmG1)

16 That's idiotic.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:12 PM (+c1jw)
That is the Peoples Republic of New York for you.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2020 07:13 PM (uyKdz)

17 Elections have consequences as we've famously heard, and you know what influences elections?

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Election related: I'm watching the Nascar race tonight (currently under rain delay), and an early commercial break had that awful ad from early in the bug featuring Birx and Fauci asking us to make sacrifices, blah, blah, blah.

Which soured my mood. But the most recent break featured a Trump campaign ad recapping his actions (and how Biden got the travel ban call wrong). It ends saying "He's not always polite, but he does things his way. Not the Washington way. Trump: he gets things done."

Shades of "Mike will get it done" except without the stench of failure. Made me laugh.

Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2020 07:13 PM (kOpft)

18 Hey, that's the target the department gives me when I take my annual pistol re-qualification!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 24, 2020 07:13 PM (bkUtD)

19 I'm debating the SW.22 with threaded barrel. It just sounds fun, and besides... Suppressed 22 is quiet.

I spent today with my minions at the Fredericksburg battlefield cemetery explaining memorial day as best i could to a five year old and a three year old child.

Tomorrow I'll drink for my buddies who didn't come home.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at May 24, 2020 07:13 PM (T8HPM)

20 Too many squirrels invading the property, on order is a Stoeger XM1 airgun combo with scope, suppressor and other bits. Fires 22 cal a 1000 fps. Careful hunting in suburbia is a requirement.

Posted by: azalea city at May 24, 2020 07:13 PM (WX+x0)

21 I know that not all of the horde reside in gun friendly areas. This is a direct quote from a label affixed to the back of an envelope reminding me that my NCCHL expires in July. "Due to Covid-19 virus, we are asking that you renew online and select a date! We will not let you expire, please call and we will assist you." From Sheriff John Ingram, Brunswick County, NC.

Posted by: Agitator at May 24, 2020 07:14 PM (y/e6R)

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Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:12 PM (+c1jw)
That is the Peoples Republic of New York for you.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2020 07:13 PM (uyKdz)
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Yup. How you doing, amigo?

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:14 PM (+c1jw)

23 Last week I did a little load development for the .300 AAC hog hammer. Groups were pretty consistent at 1.5" at 100 yds. Unfortunately none of my loads were very consistent velocity-wise with SDs in the 30s across the board despite having been very careful with powder loading. I think I need to get the OAL gauge out and get the seating depth a bit more correct for the gun. I just SWAGed this batch off of factory ammo length.
Also took the M1 along to give her some exercise. She ran flawlessly, and has a trigger that is only slightly better than fantastic.

Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at May 24, 2020 07:14 PM (F2VXi)

24 Shooter's Wheel of Abuse

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 07:14 PM (NWiLs)

25 I should have clarified the SW.22 pistol.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, LOL, get fucked at May 24, 2020 07:14 PM (T8HPM)

26 When can we expect the follow-ups to the previous two GT videos, i.e. the Garand Thumb demo, and the Pedersen Device demo?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 07:15 PM (DMUuz)

27 Yay gub thread!

I did manage to go to a secure remote location and get some range time.

I was getting a little bored with the slow-fire bullseye targets, so my friend and I mixed things up.

First we set out some water bottles and compared reactions to the various ammo. .22s are boring (just make holes), .32 and .380 can make them jump, and of course .40 rips them in half.

Which is fun.

Then we did some self-defense style drills. We put up for silhouette targets and loaded either five or ten rounds (depending on magazine capacity).

The shooter would take a ready position with pistol lowered while the other would call "ready, GO!" and the shooter would try to score at least one hit on all four targets with five shots. If the magazine had ten rounds, the shooter would resume a lowered position, if it was out, he would do a reload.

It was a lot of fun and we learned a lot about acquiring targets under pressure.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 07:15 PM (cfSRQ)

28 Memorial Day

To the Fallen
⚓ Crisp Salute ⚓

Ready, Two.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2020 07:15 PM (u82oZ)

29 14 When they reopen, and being firearms related I can guarantee that will be slow walked, I'm going to drive around and send them pics of available commercial property and maybe some numbers in Little Rock.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 24, 2020 07:16 PM (C1Lsn)

30 measuring with a digital caliper ... NEEEERRRRDDD

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 24, 2020 07:17 PM (G546f)

31 Ah, the gun thread!

Love the top photo.
That was a damn nice display of the different ammo out of the Ruger. Very informative.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 07:18 PM (7EjX1)

32 Yup. How you doing, amigo?

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:14 PM (+c1jw)

I am doing ok. Was on vacation for most of the week. (I was supposed to go to the Sig Academy but I pushed it back to August due to the Wuhan flu crap). Getting a little stir crazy. Only so much one can watch on tv. Keep telling myself to get out just for the fresh air and sunshine but like a lot of things I just put it off. ( I am a procrastinator).

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 24, 2020 07:18 PM (uyKdz)

33 Top 100

Posted by: Rancherbob at May 24, 2020 07:19 PM (gtu9W)

34 12
I have three guns I need parts for sitting patiently in zip lock bags.
Good ol' Numrich is the only outfit that has what I need, and they're
shut down by imperial decree from Albany. Why any firearms related
business would remain in NY or like states is beyond me.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 24, 2020 07:10 PM (C1Lsn)

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I saw that and had to search for other suppliers. I found some new outfits and am waiting to see if they screwed me. With USPS being what it is, it's hard to tell. "Priority Mail" now means "Maybe this month."

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 07:19 PM (cfSRQ)

35 Love the diagnostic target!

And yay, gubs - thanks Weasel again for gracing the blog with discussion of skeery, skeery gunz.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 07:19 PM (El6T/)

36 vmom 2020

Sua Sponte has cool tools, and is younger than 29. We had to learn to read verniers and calipers from marks on the steel. We old school.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2020 07:19 PM (u82oZ)

37 Said goodbye to the gun I learned to shoot with yesterday. Here's the story:

Sometime around 1975 my brother bought a .410 Stevens/Savage 940E single shot from one of our cousins for the princely sum of $10. Around 1980 my brother gave the shotgun to me and with it I learned basic gun safety and shooting skills from my father.

Fast forward 40 years. The cousin passed on many years ago and sadly, left virtually nothing to his daughter. My other cousin, his sister, was visiting her daughter, which presented the opportunity for me to carry out one of my mom's wishes: return the shotgun to that side of the family. So yesterday I made the trek over to the Savannah area and presented this little treasure, not valuable in price but in family history and sentiment, to my cousin. She plans on giving it in turn to her niece so that she'll have something that once belonged to her father.

Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode) at May 24, 2020 07:20 PM (OMsf+)

38 Range Report:
Kicked ass with a new 6.5 CM load - ReLoder 15 and hornady 129 g SSTs. Every step of the ladder test was under .65" at 100 yds.
Then dialed in the swinging lollipops at 200 and 300. No misses.
And it was 75 and sunny. Lots of UV and a breeze to kill any viri. A good day in northern NH.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 07:20 PM (ebxKR)

39 May GOD Bless Texas, the Constitution, America, President Trump, and civilization.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 07:20 PM (XhWtx)

40 To the Fallen

Crisp Salute

And a toast, amen.

Posted by: dartist at May 24, 2020 07:21 PM (K22Va)

41 Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2020 07:19 PM (u82oZ)

yeah, I can't diss anyone - my dad used a slide rule - I can't

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 24, 2020 07:21 PM (G546f)

42 26 When can we expect the follow-ups to the previous two GT videos, i.e. the Garand Thumb demo, and the Pedersen Device demo?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 07:15 PM (DMUuz)
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Hopefully next Sunday. I'm taking a Model of 1917 and an M1 Carbine down tomorrow.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:22 PM (+c1jw)

43 Well this time yes, I've been to the range(s).

Indoor one on Friday, just to see if I really liked the charge on my new 9mm load (it's OK, might reduce it a tiny bit).

Only went to the indoor one because earlier this week, on my duty day, the range was so busy I didn't get to shoot. A first for me. As the saying goes - "who the hell opened the gate and let the customers in??".

Asked as many as I could why that day - without exception, they'd been waiting til we re-opened, after closing for almost 2 months.



Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 07:22 PM (El6T/)

44 Took the 30AR out for some range work. I managed to print a 1.25" 3-shot group at 100 yards with Remington factory 150gr. Core-Lokt bullets. What a wonderful cartridge. Near 308 power that easily adapts to an AR-15 platform. So, of course, Remington dropped production and no longer supports the cartridge.

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 24, 2020 07:23 PM (Z/PHj)

45 Bert G, that's a really nice gesture

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 24, 2020 07:23 PM (G546f)

46 I should mention that one of the guns I used on that four-target drill was none other than the Dreyse M1907 that I bought about a year ago and hated on for three straight months.

You know, with some replacement parts, solid maintenance, a better understanding of its mechanics, it's really fun.

It shoots to the left. This is known, so when doing the drill, I aimed for the target's left arm and the shots landed center mass.

I get now why the cops bought them in bulk - it's small, handy, quick and recovers quickly. When it works, an awesome little mouse gun.

Oh, and no malfunctions. Ironically the HK P2000 had more issues using aluminum-cased ammo than the antique.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 07:24 PM (cfSRQ)

47 vmom 2020

I still have 3 slide rules around. I linear and two circular with the periodic table insert.

You young one, you.

I like your book idea. Some of us are very ... colorful. We can write so many stories.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 24, 2020 07:24 PM (u82oZ)

48 Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode) at May 24, 2020 07:20 PM (OMsf+)
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Nice!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:25 PM (+c1jw)

49 Fast forward 40 years. The cousin passed on many years ago and sadly, left virtually nothing to his daughter. My other cousin, his sister, was visiting her daughter, which presented the opportunity for me to carry out one of my mom's wishes: return the shotgun to that side of the family. So yesterday I made the trek over to the Savannah area and presented this little treasure, not valuable in price but in family history and sentiment, to my cousin. She plans on giving it in turn to her niece so that she'll have something that once belonged to her father.
Posted by: Bert G


Too cool.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 24, 2020 07:26 PM (8oSoU)

50 I have a Navy issue drafting set. I look at it some times, also have a 1960s era flight computer, can't remember how it works. Getting old maybe.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 07:27 PM (XhWtx)

51 Last Thursday, May 21st in 1881, was John Douglas Pedersen's birthday, and yesterday (in 1951) was the day he passed away. These days mostly remembered for the Pedersen Device, he designed many arms for Remington Arms, and later for the United States Government.

John Moses Browning (PBUH) told U.S. Army Ordnance Maj. Gen. Julian S. Hatcher that Pedersen "was the greatest gun designer in the world".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 07:27 PM (DMUuz)

52 Nice shooting Sua Sponte!

This week was the shoot off between a DSA FAL SA58 and the old skool Polytech M-14S. Yup, a Red Chinese copy of our venerable M-14/M1A.

The SA58 is a bare bones "voyager" model with a 21 inch barrel. I changed out the rear sight from the crappy Holland to the regular ramp style which goes from 200 meters to 600 meters.

The M-14S is all stock. Many folks change out the front and rear sights, flash hider and trigger group for GI parts but I am going keep it all commie. The "flash hider" is a fake one with no holes cut into it I guess as a result of the assault weapons ban or some such nonsense. It even has the "thing that goes up" for your shoulder hold and a wood stock with fiberglass top hand guard. These rifles, also known as the Norinco M305 are big in Canada but with the recent fascist crackdown I think they will soon be banned.

I shot out to 325 yards on targets from an 8 inch gong up to a half man steel silhouette. Ammo was Aguila 7.62 x 51 150 grain boat tail.

The FAL inched out the commie M-14S. Both rifles shot great but the FAL was able to ring the small gong three times in a row which the M-14S could only hit the small target 1 out of 3.

Also, the FAL's adjustable gas valve allows you to tune in the rifle to tame the recoil as well as have the brass land in a nice pile besides your shooting position.

Look to see in the near future if any of those Polytechs or Norincos head south for sale in the next year or two.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2020 07:28 PM (Z+IKu)

53 Most interesting thing at the outdoor range was a couple of 30-something Russian immigrant guys, who brought some interesting hardware.

A DP-28 (Degtyarev pulyemot - Degtyarev machine-gun), the standard light MG for the Red Army in WWII - the one with the distinctive flat, frisbee-like ("pan") magazine on top. With a bipod.

The guy had built it from a parts kit, which meant re-welding the receiver back together. He'd brought 6 54R rounds of increasing charge to test it. Semi-auto, of course. He installed an AK trigger group. He decided he needed to re-weld it again, was not happy with stress signs, but also said he'd screwed up the gas adjustment.

He also had an RPK, also from a kit. He intrigued me by noting that the PPsh-41 kits are easy to restore, since they're stamped metal. Hmmm. Not a welder, but imagine I could have it done for not too much $ - and the kits are not that much.

Smith Machine has rebuilt DP-28-family rifles for $3K, new receivers etc.

He actually had one of the mags - he got it during "freedom week" in CA, when a judge's ruling suspended the mag capacity law for a week.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 07:30 PM (El6T/)

54 I used my new bushing type sizing die for the first time today and I have a few questions. How does the expander button not upset the size set by the bushing? I was feeling a lot of resistance at the end of the stroke when the button pulled out and it left visible marks inside the neck. Is that expected? Should I try polishing the button with some Flitz? Should I try removing it entirely?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 07:30 PM (qc+VF)

55 Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2020 07:28 PM (Z+IKu)
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I have a Polytech AK that hasn't been out in a while. They're getting pricey!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:30 PM (MVjcR)

56 Did A.H. Lloyd get in the new grips for the Astra 300?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 07:32 PM (PP3gl)

57 51 Interesting story about the Pedersen Device. Dubbed US Pistol, Model of 1918 for secrecy, they became US bonfire of 1919. Some did escape, and as we all know, the device and gear are quite rare. When US troops took over one of the German arsenals at the end of WW2, they found a large reference armory with many foreign weapons. Among them was a MK1 Springfield, a Pedersen Device, and all accoutrements. Couldn't even keep a secret back then.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 24, 2020 07:32 PM (C1Lsn)

58 54 I used my new bushing type sizing die for the first time today and I have a few questions. How does the expander button not upset the size set by the bushing? I was feeling a lot of resistance at the end of the stroke when the button pulled out and it left visible marks inside the neck. Is that expected? Should I try polishing the button with some Flitz? Should I try removing it entirely?
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 07:30 PM (qc+VF)
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Take the expander out.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:32 PM (+c1jw)

59 And Weasel, I've finally been able to up my game in precise reloading - SDs in single digits and spread in the teens.
You are absolutely right. Taking the ammo variability out of the equation leaves only range, windage and shooter screw-ups.
Of which I have my share.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 07:33 PM (ebxKR)

60 Ola, Ca va?

Not much range time stuff to share. Some good news, my new Vortex R

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 07:33 PM (bgJ0E)

61 measuring with a digital caliper ... NEEEERRRRDDD

Or geek?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at May 24, 2020 07:33 PM (ZSK0i)

62 59 And Weasel, I've finally been able to up my game in precise reloading - SDs in single digits and spread in the teens.
You are absolutely right. Taking the ammo variability out of the equation leaves only range, windage and shooter screw-ups.
Of which I have my share.
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 07:33 PM (ebxKR)
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You are progressing nicely, grasshopper!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:34 PM (+c1jw)

63 Did A.H. Lloyd get in the new grips for the Astra 300?


Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 07:32 PM (PP3gl)

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Not yet. USPS is so screwed up, I didn't think I'd see it until this coming week.

A book I ordered from an Amazon affiliate is so overdue they're offering me a refund. A friend had a gun he shipped get stalled out for two weeks. So I'll give it time.

Good thing I have that little Dreyse to keep me amused.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 07:35 PM (cfSRQ)

64 0 Ola, Ca va?

Not much range time stuff to share. Some good news, my new Vortex R
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 07:33 PM (bgJ0E)
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Howdy, amigo! I've shot with some of the Vortex engineers. Great guys.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:36 PM (+c1jw)

65 My son and I shot about 500 9mm rounds through 3 Ruger pistols. A P89, a Security 9 and an EC9. Saturday was a good day.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 24, 2020 07:36 PM (3H9h1)

66 Howdy, Horde! Well, I am settling into my new digs and have begun unpacking the firearms. I found out that joining a range here is 1) expensive and 2) predicated on current members dying in order to make room for new members. So, waiting list and dry fire in my apt.

How YOU doin?

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at May 24, 2020 07:36 PM (oi7WB)

67 Thanks Weasel. I like simple answers.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 07:37 PM (qc+VF)

68 Weasel - I hve a M1917 Eddystone receiver. Now all I have to do is get all the pieces'n parts and build a rifle around it.

Posted by: butch at May 24, 2020 07:37 PM (hXu8T)

69 Several years ago had an Amazon affiliate somehow not ship an item I ordered. When I pointed how overdue every thing was they offered me another. Said no thanks, just give me a refund. Which they did.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 07:38 PM (PP3gl)

70 Been Jonesing for Sig 365 since I heard about them right after their release but I haven't pulled the trigger so far. ISWIDT.

Any first hand experience? FTR I really really really like all my current Sigs. Really

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 24, 2020 07:38 PM (cknjq)

71 My son and I shot about 500 9mm rounds through 3 Ruger pistols. A P89, a Security 9 and an EC9. Saturday was a good day.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 24, 2020 07:36 PM (3H9h1)

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Before the canoe accident, I had a KP-89 (stainless slide), which was my first auto-loader. Fun to shoot.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 07:38 PM (cfSRQ)

72 Oops, Vertex Razor and other goodies are on the way, as we unfortunately had to cancel the long range shooting package I was running in Utah. I was supposed to bring all my SHOT show goodies back to NZ after the UT range shoot , but not to be.
More good news, I am getting a Barrett M107 .50 and a M81 chinese LMG plus some other bang bangs for nix. Yah me, if all things go well.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 07:38 PM (bgJ0E)

73 67 Thanks Weasel. I like simple answers.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 07:37 PM (qc+VF)
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No problemo. For those wanting the long answer, the expander doesn't do much besides get in the way in a FL bushing die. The neck expands when fired and the bushing returns it to the correct, smaller, diameter. I have a separate expander die setup that I use to uniform new unfired brass, but that's it.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:40 PM (+c1jw)

74 Aiim Surplus also occasionally gets S-and-W 5906es in stock, basically a full size version of the 6906. About $400.

Posted by: butch at May 24, 2020 07:40 PM (hXu8T)

75 Those of us who enjoy using traditional muzzleloaders often deal with small businesses for stuff. One man operations are not unusual. But this can have a downside.

I intend to use tow, the waste from processing flax and hemp, in cleaning my BP guns and for other functions. It is both historically correct and effective. The material is washable and reusable and works well in a flint and steel fire starting kit.

The problem was finding some. The lady I used to get it from has either retired or passed on. The phone is disconnected. Other sources list it but it is out of stock. Apparently, tow is a seasonal product. Anyhow, I finally found some at Jas. Townsend and Sons and ordered a pound. That is a LOT of tow and will probably last me for a couple of years.

This is a minor matter but illustrates the need to keep up supplies, like ammo (hint, hint), before your stocks are low or gone.

Weasel is wise in these matters.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 07:41 PM (7EjX1)

76 68 Weasel - I hve a M1917 Eddystone receiver. Now all I have to do is get all the pieces'n parts and build a rifle around it.
Posted by: butch at May 24, 2020 07:37 PM (hXu8T)
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Hopefully, you'll see mine next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:41 PM (+c1jw)

77 Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 07:41 PM (7EjX1)
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Thank you, JTB!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:43 PM (+c1jw)

78 37 ... Bert G,

That is a lovely gesture and generous on your part.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 07:44 PM (7EjX1)

79
This is a minor matter but illustrates the need to keep up supplies, like ammo (hint, hint), before your stocks are low or gone.



Weasel is wise in these matters.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 07:41 PM (7EjX1)

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Also other cleaning supplies. I didn't think about it, but my stock of CLP was getting low, so when I had the chance to get more, I took it.

If it ain't clean, it won't work, no matter how much ammo you have.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 07:45 PM (cfSRQ)

80 Weasel - I am looking forward to it!
Regards

Posted by: butch at May 24, 2020 07:46 PM (hXu8T)

81 Thanks for the gun thread Weasel. Did a little range time of Friday with DB Cooper. Need to pull the Rem 700 .308 back out and test the new Hornady 168 grn poly tips I picked up.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 24, 2020 07:47 PM (Fiwz/)

82 So, about my Ruger P89... it's a stainless model with a 15 round magazine well. Originally purchased in (of all years) 1989 in Memphis, TN.

Stainless upper, Hogue grips, no other mods.

A "sloppy" gun. But fun to shoot.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 24, 2020 07:47 PM (3H9h1)

83 Chesapeake, VA, which is somewhat a national bellwether (2012 and 2016 results nearly exactly tracked national vote), elected the entire GOP slate - including the school board. There was at least one upset.

I don't know if this has national implications, but it certainly bodes terrible for state Democrats.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at May 24, 2020 07:47 PM (ijEPD)

84 My Dad died in 1987 and left his J.C. Higgins, 12ga bolt action shotgun to my brother. I got his Remington electric razor. He wasn't big into material possessions. In 2008 my stepfather died and left his J.C. Higgins, 12ga bolt action shotgun to one of his sons. What are the odds.

Posted by: Javems at May 24, 2020 07:48 PM (ofIwF)

85 That is a lovely gesture and generous on your part.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 07:44 PM


It made several people happy, and I initially didn't think it was that big of a deal...but I'll but another one of that model, lol. I didn't realize that I'd be so saddened to see it go. It is, at least, still in the family.

Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode) at May 24, 2020 07:49 PM (OMsf+)

86 80 Weasel - I am looking forward to it!
Regards
Posted by: butch at May 24, 2020 07:46 PM (hXu8T)
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Thanks. Hope it turns out! The 1917 sometimes gets lost between the '03 Spfld and the Garand. Cool rifles.
I have been toying with the idea of starting to shoot some of the video at home rather than all of it at the farm to speed up production.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:49 PM (+c1jw)

87 Next step is pushing out beyond 500 yds. My handheld laser rangefinder is too shaky to register beyond around 650. Any suggestions for a more stable platform?
Oh, yeah. It can't break the bank.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 07:49 PM (ebxKR)

88 I posted this on an open thread earlier this week but got no response. I could still use an answer but it's not as important now because I've already ordered the parts and it will either work or not.

Anyway, if someone has a Savage bolt action and a caliper near at hand, I could two measurements: the diameter of the ejector and the rough distance from the bolt face to the center of the pin that holds the ejector in place. Thanks.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 07:50 PM (qc+VF)

89 "but I'll buy..."

Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode) at May 24, 2020 07:50 PM (OMsf+)

90 ---------
Howdy, amigo! I've shot with some of the Vortex engineers. Great guys.
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:36 PM (+c1jw)

Their engineers are awesome. The sales guys not so much. Last two years at SHOT trying to talk to them I have found the sales/front people in their booth to be very standoffish and very disinterested. So much so I am looking at March Optics as an alternative. The guys in the Horus recticle booth are goods dudes and like beers.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 07:50 PM (bgJ0E)

91 Our family has always celebrated Memorial Day as not just about the military, but family who have passed on. As early as I can remember, we have always gone out on this weekend to decorate family members' graves with flowers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 07:50 PM (A5zUN)

92 I had a couple of excellent days at the range this week. A couple of guys showed me their theshotmarker.com set ups. Very impressive, it works as long as your bullet stays supersonic and broadcasts to your tablet. My guys at Evergladesammo.com had their .224 75gr hpbt bullets in stock for a day so I get a 1000 on Tues., as well as a bunch of once fired Lake City .762 cases. I have to give Mid South two thumbs up for their Shooters World Match Rifle, great propellent 149.95 retail. My brother decided he wants an AR so I picked up an Andersons lower this morning to get started. All in all another very good week.

Posted by: ck at May 24, 2020 07:50 PM (Gf0Po)

93 Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 24, 2020 07:47 PM (Fiwz/)
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My pleasure, QID!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:50 PM (+c1jw)

94 59 ... "Taking the ammo variability out of the equation leaves only range, windage and shooter screw-ups.
Of which I have my share."

I can't help but think of that old joke. "I can shoot one hole targets all day long. It's the second shot that opens things up."

Congrats on improving your loading. That is a big accomplishment.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 07:51 PM (7EjX1)

95 82
So, about my Ruger P89... it's a stainless model with a 15 round
magazine well. Originally purchased in (of all years) 1989 in Memphis,
TN.



Stainless upper, Hogue grips, no other mods.



A "sloppy" gun. But fun to shoot.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 24, 2020 07:47 PM (3H9h1)

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The Mariachi uses two of these in .45 ACP in the film "Desperado."

"I'm looking for a man who calls himself "Bucho."

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 07:51 PM (cfSRQ)

96 For Memorial Day weekend, here is the harrowing and courageous story of the only B-29 Superfortress crewman to ever be awarded the Medal of Honor during World War II.

The B-29 was named "The City of Los Angeles" and the man at the moment was named Henry "Red" Erwin.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ya5ku9f7

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 07:51 PM (PP3gl)

97 Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 07:50 PM (bgJ0E)
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I don't know why they act like that. The sales guys at NightForce, for example, were all great guys and shooters. One was on my team at the 2017 Worlds.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:54 PM (+c1jw)

98 the ranges here in The Valley just reopened on the 15tn... social distancing, etc.

but i did buy two gubs, on on the 12th and one on the 17th.

miracle of miracles, DOJ actually released the Thomson Contender on time, apparently just a few hours before my earliest P/U time.

3 regular calibers: 223, 357, and 30-30

3 wildcats: 357 Herrett, 7mm TCU and 7mm Tev.

i had to look them all up but, fortunately, they are all commercially available, and i have my FFL/COE magic wand so i can order on line have it shipped to me directly. something else to spend my Malig-Nancy monies one.

the other is a Norinco 1911, which i plan to ship off to be converted to the "Mighty Rowland 460", because we don't have one of those, yet, and i didn't want to F up a perfectly good American gun.

sample 450 ammo here: https://preview.tinyurl.com/ycjjavgl

( i got talked to about using regular URLs this weekend, so i'm being good)

Rowland website here: https://preview.tinyurl.com/yaz4rg9c


they also have a 9mm conversion that is supposed to boot performance to 357 levels, and you can still shoot regular ammo in the gub.


i might send my XD9 in for that.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 24, 2020 07:54 PM (i6uJ1)

99 Yay!! It's the Gun Thread!!!
Howdy Weasel!! Hello Fellow Gun Cranks!!
No range trip this week, much to my disappointment. Hopefully this coming week.
Been working on buying and installing scopes on a couple of my 22 rifles. I ended up making a purchase from CDNN in Abilene Texas. Ordered a cheap scope because I cannot find 3/4 inch "Weaver" style anywhere at the moment. Ordered friday, USPS delivered today.On a cheap scope. With free shipping. I love gun people, and I love Texas.

Posted by: Jesse in DC at May 24, 2020 07:56 PM (ouR/N)

100 Been Jonesing for Sig 365 since I heard about them right after their release but I haven't pulled the trigger so far. ISWIDT.

Any first hand experience? FTR I really really really like all my current Sigs. Really
Posted by: weirdflunky at May 24, 2020 07:38 PM


Two words: Do it.

It's very accurate. Good ergonomics. (If you can compare it to a P-365XL, and its flat trigger, you'll have a reference. The trigger can be exchanged for a flat one (price ~$50 to $90 or so, depending on mfg.) and 15 to 20 minutes of time (there are at least 2 good Youtubes that hold your hand through the process).

It's pocketable, or IWB/OWB, and the nightsights are excellent. Let's just say it's very near the top of the last weapon I'd give up.

Oh, yeah, you can use 10, 12, or 15 round mags (15-round XL mag comes w/a regular 365 adapter).

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 07:56 PM (DMUuz)

101 Didn't get to do any shooting (so far) this Memorial Day weekend.

But did get in the mail, the wee small stock washer plate that goes in between a Remington Wingmaster receiver and the stock.

Little by little, bringing the 1967 Riot Gun back to life.

Finding a polished blue (vs. parkerized) 2 REMINGTON factory magazine extension is taxing to one's patience. I've got a three round parkerized unit, NOS in the box. I'll be happy to make a trade!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 24, 2020 07:57 PM (QzJWU)

102 Anyway, if someone has a Savage bolt action and a
caliper near at hand, I could two measurements: the diameter of the
ejector and the rough distance from the bolt face to the center of the
pin that holds the ejector in place. Thanks.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 07:50 PM (qc+VF)

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no help here: no Savage bolt actions here, yet, except the WW1 era Lee Enfield that's in the hospital, and that wouldn't help at all.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 24, 2020 07:57 PM (i6uJ1)

103 Range report.

Did some more stand, breathe, focus and slowly and deliberatley pull the trigger. I did very well.

Next week I will go back to pick up, aim, double and tripletap. Then I will suck again.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2020 07:57 PM (U2p+3)

104 Posted by: Jesse in DC at May 24, 2020 07:56 PM (ouR/N
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Howdy, bro! Have you tried Vintage Rifle Scopes in Montana? Really great outfit.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:57 PM (+c1jw)

105 Semi firearm related.

In these, our time of troubles, I have dug out the old X-Box and whiled away the hours with numerous games. The grandkids came over today and I had to entertain tIhem as Mrs. Wrecks and and my daughter prepared the feast. We played Sea of Thieves, a fairly G rated pirate game but second grade granddaughter wanted to play a game with horses so I thought we can play parts of Red Dead Redemption, specifically ride out on the desert and lasso and break some wild stallions. Sure, RDR is a violent game for adults but it we just avoid any trouble, no problem. My plans were foiled when she quickly learned to draw and shoot. Looked like fun to her third grade brother and, just like Johnny Cash, he gunned down a lot of innocent people just to watch them die, including a saloon shots in her underwear, causing the Marshall to quickly form a posse and gun him down in the street.

Best laid plans. No more RDR.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 24, 2020 07:58 PM (+y/Ru)

106 The B-29 was named "The City of Los Angeles" and the man at the moment was named Henry "Red" Erwin.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ya5ku9f7
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 07:51 PM (PP3gl)

Damn. White Phosphorus is not a laughing matter. He was a Man.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 07:58 PM (A5zUN)

107 Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2020 07:57 PM (U2p+3)
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Nice!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:59 PM (+c1jw)

108 I have a Polytech AK that hasn't been out in a while. They're getting pricey!
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:30 PM (MVjcR)

Yup....I saw a Polytech Spiker AK for sale in a Pawn Shop last week for $2800.00.

Nice rifle.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2020 08:00 PM (Z+IKu)

109 Best laid plans. No more RDR.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 24, 2020 07:58 PM (+y/Ru)

On the other hand, consequences were shown.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:00 PM (A5zUN)

110 97 Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 07:50 PM (bgJ0E)
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I don't know why they act like that. The sales guys at NightForce, for example, were all great guys and shooters. One was on my team at the 2017 Worlds.
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 07:54 PM (+c1jw)

" I am Corporate - peon, how dare you "

Mind you, I engaged a Nightforce sales guy this year about a reticle design and you would have thought I was suggesting I crap on his chest. Insufficient personality.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:00 PM (bgJ0E)

111 Posted by: Jim at May 24, 2020 07:57 PM (QzJWU)
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Saving your trip report for next week, Amigo.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:00 PM (+c1jw)

112 Thanks, JTB. I resolved this to be the year that I ring the gong at 1000 yds. Consistently.
I've been taking very deliberate (unfortunately, slow) steps in getting the optic, the gun, the dies, and testing every week.
But next step requires a spotter, and Mrs. Red has not been enthused. Yet.
The amount of expertise and knowledge that exists in this thread is just amazing, though, and keeps me focused. And enthused.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:00 PM (ebxKR)

113 Corned beef and cabbage tomorrow in honor of all the Scots-Irish (including Confederates) who have fought and sometimes died in defense of America.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 08:01 PM (XhWtx)

114
" I am Corporate - peon, how dare you "

Mind you, I engaged a Nightforce sales guy this year about a reticle design and you would have thought I was suggesting I crap on his chest. Insufficient personality.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:00 PM (bgJ0E)
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That's a shame. I think they had a reorg in their front office a year or two ago. Sorry to hear that.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:02 PM (+c1jw)

115 Finding a polished blue (vs. parkerized) 2 REMINGTON factory magazine extension is taxing to one's patience. I've got a three round parkerized unit, NOS in the box. I'll be happy to make a trade!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 24, 2020 07:57 PM


I thought you wanted a blued 18" barrel w/gold bead sight?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 08:02 PM (DMUuz)

116 Rhomboid-
from your question last night. No i have not been to the Big Sandy. Don't even have a decent excuse as to why. The spring shoot was postponed so it'll be a big one for Oct 17-19 i think.
I do know some folks that shoot there. I don't own the 42.
A friend does and think its in process of a sale for around 80k.
Quilters Irish Death shot a couple days ago and disussed a shooting AZ MoMe. Weasel has my email if you want to visit about it.

Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 08:03 PM (y1Mvi)

117 Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 07:37 PM (qc+VF)
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BtB - send me an email. I might be able to help with the Savage receiver spec later this week.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:04 PM (+c1jw)

118 BtB - send me an email. I might be able to help with the Savage receiver spec later this week.

Will do. Thanks.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 08:05 PM (qc+VF)

119 Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 07:56 PM (DMUuz)

Thanks. I've almost bought one three times and haven't done it. Now if the weirdwife asks wth do you need another gun for I can say DTX told me to. Totally not my fault.

Pocket gun so which version? Big pocket. Not tight jeans btw.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 24, 2020 08:05 PM (cknjq)

120 I went through IOBC (Infantry Officers Basic Course) with this guy. He was direct commission from E-6 to, as I member Captain, the wiki folks say 1st LT. Most direct commissions were riffed in the early 1970's but he evidently made it to 20.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Drew_Dennis_Dix

I have two very good friend to memorialize but I'll wait till tomorrow.

Posted by: Javems at May 24, 2020 08:07 PM (ofIwF)

121 Love my P365...

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 24, 2020 08:07 PM (UUBmN)

122 And HOWDY WEASEL!!!

I can't say enough how much Mark has helped me. It is so nice to have a shooting buddy who is patient and knowledgable and patient.

I want my grandfather's luger he plucked off a dead German in France back from my ex husband. Grrrrrrr

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2020 08:07 PM (U2p+3)

123 84 ... "In 2008 my stepfather died and left his J.C. Higgins, 12ga bolt action shotgun to one of his sons."

My father in law was given a Sears 12 ga. bolt action shortly after the wedding. He didn't hunt or shoot for fun but supposedly blew out the windows on the family barn. It then sat in a closet until Mrs. JTB and I got married. They knew I shot so gave the gun to me along with the vintage ammo. That was my only shotgun for several years. I used it for trap shooting and it did okay.

Where I shoot trap there are guys who are serious competitors and use VERY expensive shotguns. I'm a decent wing shot and a few times I outshot some of them. I figured they would be pissed off. Nope. Most of them wanted to borrow the Sears for a round of trap. Many of them had started out with such a gun and they wanted that old feeling again. Big smiles when they were done.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 08:08 PM (7EjX1)

124 NZ Frank
I too was equally unimpressed with the NF folks. I shoot a Vortex Razor on my Creedmoor and a PST II on my Creedmoor gas gun and beat them up pretty good and they hold zero.
my bolt gun with the Razor fell off the back of my pickup on the scope and i checked it the next morning and put 5 shots in one hole. I used the Razor for my 8 day long range precision course and it was flawless.

Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 08:08 PM (y1Mvi)

125 No range time for me.


I will remember my uncle Doyle. He jumped into fwance survived the war, came home. Survived Korea, came home again, said lolgf for Vietnam and then died of diabetes in '65.


Hard core sum'bitch.


Here's a beer to you Uncle Doyle.



My wife's uncle was a pow in ww1. Survived, became a harbor master in Manila. Survived the death March. Drowned on a hell ship sunk by American forces.
https://tinyurl.com/y8jhnw7m

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 24, 2020 08:08 PM (VcFUs)

126 Among them was a MK1 Springfield, a Pedersen Device, and all accoutrements. Couldn't even keep a secret back then.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 24, 2020 07:32 PM (C1Lsn)

The French ended up with the 7.65 Long for their military pistols because of the Pedersen ammo they were introduced to because of the Pedersen device.

Weird.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2020 08:09 PM (Z+IKu)

127 How this Memorial Day is celebrated in the Age of Stupidity and "social distancing" remains to be seen

The family down at the end of my road (a rather beat up shack that might have started as a double-wide) were having a huge party in their front yard when I came home from the store tonight. It was glorious to see.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 08:09 PM (d6gL5)

128 Anyway, if someone has a Savage bolt action and a caliper near at hand, I could two measurements: the diameter of the ejector and the rough distance from the bolt face to the center of the pin that holds the ejector in place. Thanks.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 07:50 PM

Bob, from my Axis II
Ejector diameter = 0.096"
Distance bolt face to pin =~0.230"

Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at May 24, 2020 08:10 PM (F2VXi)

129 114
" I am Corporate - peon, how dare you "

Mind you, I engaged a Nightforce sales guy this year about a reticle design and you would have thought I was suggesting I crap on his chest. Insufficient personality.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:00 PM (bgJ0E)
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That's a shame. I think they had a reorg in their front office a year or two ago. Sorry to hear that.
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:02 PM (+c1jw)

I,m not worried at all, just funny when I told him he had better be nice to the two guys of mine who he was meeting in an hours time about the contract negotiations.
Never judge based on appearance, tho to be fair I normally look like 5 miles of bad road.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:10 PM (bgJ0E)

130 Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2020 08:07 PM (U2p+3)
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One of the things I miss, really about the only thing I miss, about competitive shooting is all of the great friends I made around the world. Really, truly, great friends. Hang onto your shooting buddys!!!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:10 PM (+c1jw)

131 History question, mr. Weasel.


When general Gap came to Woodrow Wilson asking g for help, what was he armed with? Had we had a real American there instead of Wilson, would we never have experienced vietnam?

Could General Gap have evicted the fucking French with good arms and logistics?

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 24, 2020 08:10 PM (VcFUs)

132 In the same vein as Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler, I have been playing a game for amusement the past couple of nights. The Long Dark. Survival game. Pretty fun.

Gun related thing as to why I bring it up. The rifle you have is an Enfield (not called that, but it is in .303 and the muzzle end is flush with the end of the stuck.) It is supposed to be taking place in the Canadian wilderness, so I guess that makes sense well enough. (Although, how easy is it to find .303 British even without a global catastrophe?)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:11 PM (A5zUN)

133 Nosler has an ammo sale this weekend, but the web page wasn't letting me though, so i had to call them on Friday.

took my order over the phone, he gave me his e-mail, and i forwarded my magi wand electronically.

so they are sending me some 300 Weatherby Magnum ammo for the rifle i got for a steal a few years back (some gun smite/idiot owner replaced the original factory stock W/a thumb hole one) we had a line on some original ones, but they went away before we had funds to things like that.

also got 200 rounds of match grade 338 Lapua Magnum, for under $400.

someone at Malig-Nancy's orifice is going to be horrified when they open the envelope with my thank you note and printed pictures of my various purchases!


Posted by: redc1c4 at May 24, 2020 08:12 PM (i6uJ1)

134 Nurse R, I am so very happy to see the ettes enthused about their firearms.
Last night, Mrs. Red and I had a bust-out-of-lockdown dinner with a couple who own two or three, but have not shot them in forever. Mrs. R was actively recruiting them to join our club and I think we have some converts. Both to 2d Am and to the Right way of thinking.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:13 PM (ebxKR)

135 I have a 12 Gauge bolt action from my Grandpa. Very long barrel. The kick is, how you say, a lot.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:13 PM (A5zUN)

136 No range trip this weekend. Planned for today but snow, sporadic highway closures etc. got in the way. And not looking any better tomorrow.

Posted by: SacredCow at May 24, 2020 08:13 PM (D4VQX)

137 Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:10 PM (bgJ0E)
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Oh, I get it. I just don't think these guys realize what they're doing to their brand.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:13 PM (+c1jw)

138 124 NZ Frank
I too was equally unimpressed with the NF folks. I shoot a Vortex Razor on my Creedmoor and a PST II on my Creedmoor gas gun and beat them up pretty good and they hold zero.
my bolt gun with the Razor fell off the back of my pickup on the scope and i checked it the next morning and put 5 shots in one hole. I used the Razor for my 8 day long range precision course and it was flawless.
Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 08:08 PM (y1Mvi)

I like Vortex scopes a lot and may have being one of the first to use in NZ, I think I have about 7 or 8? Love the Razor line, but they are getting very pricey.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:13 PM (bgJ0E)

139 This is the earliest I've ever joined a thread. I'm not really sure what to do...

Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at May 24, 2020 07:04 PM (F2VXi)


Read the content?

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 08:13 PM (d6gL5)

140 Yea, guns.

And Happy Memorial Day, all respect for the honored dead.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:13 PM (d1uFV)

141

When general Gap came to Woodrow Wilson asking g for help, what was he armed with? Had we had a real American there instead of Wilson, would we never have experienced vietnam?

Could General Gap have evicted the fucking French with good arms and logistics?
Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 24, 2020 08:10 PM (VcFUs)
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Probably best to ask an historian!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:16 PM (+c1jw)

142 Bob, from my Axis II
Ejector diameter = 0.096"
Distance bolt face to pin =~0.230"


Thank you Glen. The first one is good but I think the second one means I wasted four dollars. Oh well. Probably means I'm going to wind up paying a 'smith $100 to make me one if I can even find one willing to do it.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 08:16 PM (qc+VF)

143 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

144 Talked with a young man today whose father was an AF combat controller who died in a training flight accident, already a war hero. Has streets and buildings all over our military world named after him. Wow.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 08:18 PM (XhWtx)

145 Watched the vid of 6906 - very little recoil action even though it looks backend heavy...but for $350? Wow, you can by a couple of really nice weapons for that.

Must be a special thing.

Posted by: Boswell at May 24, 2020 08:18 PM (32YRo)

146 the Pedersen device.


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2020 08:09 PM (Z+IKu)


Why does that sound kinky?

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 08:18 PM (d6gL5)

147 JTB and Atius, I still have my old 12 gauge Sears boltie. Kicks like a mule, but it was my first shottie and will not leave the arsenal.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:18 PM (ebxKR)

148 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

Beretta BM-59.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2020 08:19 PM (Z+IKu)

149 More information in regards to Red Erwin winning the MoH the hard way.

They had not even reached the coast when Nicks and Jacks started to attack the formation. One B-29 had already been hit in the wing and had to jettison its bomb load of incendiaries in the hope of making it back to Iwo Jima.

Erwin had noticed all of this and had even been knocked to the deck from flak trying to blot his B-29 out of the air. Then he was given the signal to drop the parachute flares and then readied the phosphorous bomb. Down the tube the bomb went and then it bounced up igniting. It exploded up out of the tube and bounced around inside the fuselage, gravely wounding Erwin in the process. Then it finally landed on the deck. One of the gunners thought of smothering the bomb with parachutes but then he realized if it burned through it would reach their plane's load of incendiaries. That is when Erwin pulled himself together to bravely pick up the flaming bomb only to struggle to reach the copilot's window where he tossed it out.

This had taken all of fifteen seconds from ignition to out the window.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:19 PM (PP3gl)

150 143 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

The world is your oyster, job having Man.

Maybe get a Bofors? That would be something to get a conversation started.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:19 PM (A5zUN)

151 148 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

Beretta BM-59.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2020 08:19 PM (Z+IKu)

That's the Italian take on the M14, IIRC. Do I recall correctly?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:19 PM (NWiLs)

152
also got 200 rounds of match grade 338 Lapua Magnum, for under $400.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 24, 2020 08:12 PM (i6uJ1)

How do you find the Nosler? I have used factory RWS and Lapua with a bit of Hornady. I use Berger LVDS 300 and 250 gn for my loads in the RWS and Lapua brass.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:20 PM (bgJ0E)

153 Bob, top of ejector to pin is about 0.342". It is 0.112" from top of ejector to bolt face.
Don't know if that helps any...

Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at May 24, 2020 08:21 PM (F2VXi)

154 Insomnia, that is an open ended question. Do you like .45 or 9 mm? Ginger or Maryanne?

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:21 PM (ebxKR)

155 This week's range visit was the usual mix of .22 with a box of 9mm. As usual, shooting my CZ P07 with and without the Kadet adapter. Also put some rounds with my Gen 3 Glock 17.

Of all the many, many DA/SA guns I've owned, the CZ are the one I recommend the most. Even in DA mode, the gun shoots so sweet. It's not perfect but it's very accurate and reliable.

Most of the CZ groups were good, the G17 group was larger and a little low. I may bring it next week and get back up to on target with it.

That's the problem with a big gun collection: most guns shoot slightly differently. Some want a 6 o clock hold, some want a right on, some (like my SIG) shoot with the dot COVERING the target. So getting good with one gun means I am less good with the rest. Anyway, I like the Glocks, so I need to practice more.

One final note, I did do some 25 yard shooting with the .22 Kadet adapater. My usual rule of thumb is that pistols are accurate for 10' per inch of barrel. There's a little flex but that's my experience. At 25 yards, I was tossing .22 rounds all over. Sigh. But pulling it in to 15 yards (4" barrel) and the groups were much more acceptable.

All .22 shooting was done with Federal copper plated 36 grain brass cased 'bucket o bullets', which works well in everything except the Taurus TX22.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:21 PM (d1uFV)

156 Aetius451AD @ 132 - It's not that difficult to find Enfield .303. I have a couple thousand rounds for a No. 4 Mk 1 I am rebuilding.

Posted by: butch at May 24, 2020 08:21 PM (hXu8T)

157 It exploded up out of the tube and bounced around inside the fuselage, gravely wounding Erwin in the process. Then it finally landed on the deck. One of the gunners thought of smothering the bomb with parachutes but then he realized if it burned through it would reach their plane's load of incendiaries. That is when Erwin pulled himself together to bravely pick up the flaming bomb only to struggle to reach the copilot's window where he tossed it out.

This had taken all of fifteen seconds from ignition to out the window.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:19 PM (PP3gl)

It is kind of amazing how they handled a lot of this stuff with what we would consider laughable safety standards. The ability of a round to come back into the plane? Damn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:22 PM (A5zUN)

158 Pocket gun so which version? Big pocket. Not tight jeans btw.
Posted by: weirdflunky at May 24, 2020 08:05 PM


Personally, I'd go with the regular 365. The XL is too big for pocket carry, IMHO. (Although I'd look at an XL for the flat trigger, which seems to be the #1 mod done to it).

Also look at the 365-SAS. It has a 'sight channel' which eliminates normal (and potentially snaggy) sights. Not my cup of tea, but some like it.

Clinger Holsters makes a good pocket holster, and a fantastic magazine sheath.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 08:22 PM (DMUuz)

159 154 Insomnia, that is an open ended question. Do you like .45 or 9 mm? Ginger or Maryanne?
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:21 PM (ebxKR)

Yes.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:22 PM (NWiLs)

160 143 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

That is a wide-open question, brother.

What do you want?

If you don't have a Ruger 10/22, get one of those. The takedown is wicked awesome and .22 ammo is still fairly available and reasonably priced.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:22 PM (d1uFV)

161
Maybe get a Bofors? That would be something to get a conversation started.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:19 PM (A5zUN)

How bout an Oerlikon 20 mm?

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:23 PM (bgJ0E)

162 About the 9mm "shoot fest" my son and I had...

The P89 is "heavy" and easy to lay on target. The other 2 handguns were a 9mm Ruger Security 9 and an LC9.

The Security 9 was pretty easy, as was the P89. The LC9, not so much.

400 rounds... ish. No paper was left unmolested.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 24, 2020 08:23 PM (3H9h1)

163 DB Cooper - thanks.

A few years ago I started chatting with the guy at the next bench and it turned out he was an owner who participated in Big Sandy. CA guy with a gun trust in AZ (and a Maxim, some BARs, a Ma Deuce and some other stuff) - he gave me his number and said if I wanted to to shoot, to call him and come out early, when it was "owners only" + guests. And to bring several 100 $$.

Of course I didn't go. Still have his number.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 08:23 PM (El6T/)

164 160 143 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

That is a wide-open question, brother.

What do you want?

If you don't have a Ruger 10/22, get one of those. The takedown is wicked awesome and .22 ammo is still fairly available and reasonably priced.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:22 PM (d1uFV)

Hey Mark! Yes, very open-ended and intentionally so. I do already have one of those and it is every bit as fun as advertised!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:24 PM (NWiLs)

165 How bout an Oerlikon 20 mm?
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:23 PM (bgJ0E)

Either would work on a drone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:25 PM (A5zUN)

166 An L60 or L70 Bofors?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:25 PM (PP3gl)

167 Insomniac @ 151 - You are correct. Lovely rifle; I call mine Sofia, for obvious reasons.


For you BM-59 owners, here is a YouTube video, in Italian, showing you how to disassemble and re-assemble one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIi-9Je6ELo.

Posted by: butch at May 24, 2020 08:25 PM (hXu8T)

168 Aetius, well duh! They had a war to win and go home.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:25 PM (PP3gl)

169 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?

Anybody that doesn't have an M1 needs to get one. It's a classic piece of American industrial art. I would say that anybody who does have one needs another one but that may be pushing my luck.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 08:25 PM (qc+VF)

170 166 An L60 or L70 Bofors?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:25 PM (PP3gl)

Insom is rolling in cash. I hear he is having the treasure bath installed next week.

So: Yes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:26 PM (A5zUN)

171 Gun related thing as to why I bring it up. The rifle you have is an Enfield (not called that, but it is in .303 and the muzzle end is flush with the end of the stuck.) It is supposed to be taking place in the Canadian wilderness, so I guess that makes sense well enough. (Although, how easy is it to find .303 British even without a global catastrophe?)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:11 PM (A5zUN)

Not that long ago, .303 British was sold in every hardware and sporting goods store in Canada, certainly the rural ones. That's what you got your deer/moose with.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2020 08:26 PM (pJ0tb)

172 143 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM (NWiLs)
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What don't you have that you need?

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)

173 Seconded on the M1.

Posted by: Glen the Deplorable Lurker at May 24, 2020 08:26 PM (F2VXi)

174 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM


One of Les Baer's 1911s.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 08:26 PM (DMUuz)

175 That's the Italian take on the M14, IIRC. Do I recall correctly?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:19 PM (NWiLs)

Correct! Refined and upgraded which the Italians did.

A fine instrument of destruction. A full auto one, unfired, is on GunChoker for $16,000.00.

A steal.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2020 08:27 PM (Z+IKu)

176 Aetius, I suggest the following: Sig .45 ACP tac-ops, CZ75-SP-01, HK P30-S, Glock G19, pretty much any AR or AK, and 2 or 3 Mossberg 590 Tacticals.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 08:27 PM (XhWtx)

177 154 Insomnia, that is an open ended question. Do you like .45 or 9 mm? Ginger or Maryanne?
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:21 PM (ebxKR)

It was a question that faced the Navy in the 1980's actually - they chose the 9MM, which is, of course, the more accurate weapon, easier to address on a target and had the fewer "carry" issues in the field. But when surveyed which weapon gave naval personnel in combat zones the most confidence...the John Wayner won out every time. Sometimes confidence in the field of battle matters...just saying.

Posted by: Boswell at May 24, 2020 08:27 PM (32YRo)

178 166 An L60 or L70 Bofors?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:25 PM (PP3gl)

I have some spare 40mm barrels around. Brit L/60 I think, no gun sadly, yet.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:27 PM (bgJ0E)

179 Sigh.

No range report, though I thought I was going to get one in.

Long story short, neighbors behind me decided to have a party that ran until 4 am, loud rap and all. I decided it would be less than wise to try and drive to the range, shoot, then return on 2 hours of sleep.

Such is life.

Great thread again, weasel!

Oh, and Viva La Resistance! I went to honest to goodness church service today! In person!

Next weekend: communion!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:27 PM (WEBkv)

180 One of Les Baer's 1911s.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 08:26 PM (DMUuz)

The Bofors would probably be cheaper, no?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:28 PM (A5zUN)

181 As long as your are talking M1 Carbine. Not the other .... thing.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:29 PM (bgJ0E)

182 By the way, weasel, it appears the GOP decided to show up in Staunton and fight.

Good.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:29 PM (WEBkv)

183 Ma Deuce would work on a drone

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2020 08:29 PM (ZCEU2)

184 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:27 PM (WEBkv)
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My pleasure, blake. Happy to do it!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:29 PM (MVjcR)

185 Don't know if that helps any...

Probably not really. What I'm trying to do is find an easily available ejector for a modern rifle that is close enough to be made to work in an obsolete (mid 50s) Scandi rifle.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 08:30 PM (qc+VF)

186 182 By the way, weasel, it appears the GOP decided to show up in Staunton and fight.

Good.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:29 PM (WEBkv)
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'Bout time!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:30 PM (MVjcR)

187 Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 08:08 PM (y1Mvi)

That razor is a cherry on a left handed sundae. Love that creedmore set up.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 24, 2020 08:30 PM (Fiwz/)

188 166 An L60 or L70 Bofors?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:25 PM (PP3gl)

Phalanx CIWS

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:30 PM (NWiLs)

189 What don't you have that you need?
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)
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I'll take, "how wide is the sky" for $500, Alek.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:30 PM (WEBkv)

190 BTW, I now have a nice new carry weapon (as soon as I get a holster for it*).
I picked up a Citadel 1911 Officer (3.5" barrel) in 9mm for less than $400 from gunbuyer.com. I was *really* tempted to also pick up the same weapon in .45, but even with the "stimulus" checks I can't justify buying 2 at the moment.

I hope to hit the range very soon with my son, who recently acquired his first handgun (a Ruger in .45). He's trying to get me and the Mrs and the neighbors to make it an outing. (When it happens, I'll make a report. )


Citadel is made in the Philippines and is imported under a few different brand names, evidently. So far my only problem is one of the two mags that came with it won't load all the way to 8 rounds. It cycles nice and clean, appears to have a decent trigger pull and break. I will need to doctor up the sights (they don't have dots or fiber or any aids to seeing them - just dark blued metal) eventually.

(* Any suggestions for best place to buy holsters?)

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 08:30 PM (d6gL5)

191 The 3 weapons needed are the Garand, the M14, and the 1911.

All else just ices the cake.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 24, 2020 08:30 PM (KATBx)

192 Insomniac - 1911

Posted by: Skip at May 24, 2020 08:31 PM (ZCEU2)

193 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

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I'd recommend something in the 40-watt range.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 08:31 PM (cfSRQ)

194 112 ... "Thanks, JTB. I resolved this to be the year that I ring the gong at 1000 yds. Consistently.
I've been taking very deliberate (unfortunately, slow) steps in getting the optic, the gun, the dies, and testing every week."

R. I. Red,

I had some discussions with Weasel a while back about that kind of long range shooting. I decided I can't get into (or out of) the various positions and wasn't prepared to spend the bucks needed for good gear.

But the interest in accurate shooting continues so I modified my approach. Seated at the bench only. Seeing what I can achieve with iron sights before going with a scope. Rifles, handguns, and BP all have their challanges to explore. It might be how accurate I can be with a Single-Six with the 22 magnum cylinder or cast bullet loads in a .303 British or 45-70 loaded with real black powder. It's all a game, can be approached within my budget and physical limitations and it's all fun.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 08:32 PM (7EjX1)

195 191 The 3 weapons needed are the Garand, the M14, and the 1911.

All else just ices the cake.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 24, 2020 08:30 PM (KATBx)
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*fistbump*

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:32 PM (MVjcR)

196 Boswell, gotta agree. If I went to war, it would be with a .45. Although it might be a G 21 rather than a 1911.
Last time around it would have been with a .38, but what did I know.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:32 PM (ebxKR)

197 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM

Barrett Rec 7 in .300 blackout.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 24, 2020 08:32 PM (Fiwz/)

198 Ginger or Maryanne?

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:21 PM (ebxKR)


Yes.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 08:32 PM (d6gL5)

199 163- Rhomboid
I'd definitely go. Fires are usually winding down by then for me minus CA. Quilters Irish Death and I talked about October for a MoMe. Just need to get some intel on who might want to come and what we could shoot. The only NFA item I have is my 1921 Colt Thompson but have tons of other stuff to shoot.

Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 08:33 PM (y1Mvi)

200 Insom, I'm with Bob re the M1 (not the carbine, though those are nice too - get both).

But of course it's all up to your preferences. Did you not have any firearms on your wish list, or even "hmm?" list, prior to now? If you did, start with those. If not, what are the "gaps" in your arsenal?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 08:33 PM (El6T/)

201 172 143 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM (NWiLs)
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What don't you have that you need?
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:26 PM (MVjcR)

Need doesn't really have anything to do with it, I suppose... My collection isn't huge, but it's fairly representative. Or was, before the canoe accident. I don't any modern bolt-actions or semi-automatic shotguns.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:33 PM (NWiLs)

202 *reads further*

This was no dinky little bomb Red Erwin had to deal with.

The phosphorous smoke bombs were thick canisters weighing about twenty pounds, with a sex-second delayed action fuse which would allow them to fall some three hundred feet before detonating. The device was literally dropped a circular release pipe near the bomb bay.

pg 36. B-29 Superfortress in action Aircraft No. 31. Steve Birdsall. Squadron/Signal Publications. 1977.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:34 PM (PP3gl)

203 As a proponent of the 1911, I agree the 1911 is a fine purchase, with a caveat: Practice, practice, practice.

The 1911 has controls on it that need to be built into muscle memory.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:34 PM (WEBkv)

204 191 The 3 weapons needed are the Garand, the M14, and the 1911.
All else just ices the cake.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 24, 2020 08:30 PM (KATBx)

The 3 weapons needed are the SMLE, the SLR and the Hi Power.

All else just ices the cake.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:34 PM (bgJ0E)

205 Hey Mark! Yes, very open-ended and intentionally so. I do already have one of those and it is every bit as fun as advertised!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:24 PM (NWiLs)

Groovy.

If you want a hammer-fired pistol, get a CZ. CZ75, SP-01, P0-07...I'm really impressed with them.

If you want a striker fired pistol, the PPQ is a very wicked accurate magic pistol. If you can haul your ass up to WA, I can 'help you find one'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:34 PM (d1uFV)

206 Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:34 PM (PP3gl)
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Nice to have you here again, Anna Puma.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:35 PM (+c1jw)

207 whoa.. must proofread better

six second

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:35 PM (PP3gl)

208 The Bofors would probably be cheaper, no?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:28 PM[/]

Well, the Baer's have been going up in price, and they are often addictive. OTOH, you can put way more rounds downrange for a given $$ than you could with a Bofors. ;-)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 08:36 PM (DMUuz)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 08:36 PM (DMUuz)

210 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

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120mm attached to an M1A2.

Posted by: SMH at May 24, 2020 08:36 PM (RU4sa)

211 Police Trade-In S&W 5906 are available at Classic Firearms for $339.99 http://www.classicfirearms.com/smith-and-wesson-5906-good-hg1806g/

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (Z/PHj)

212 Boswell, gotta agree. If I went to war, it would be with a .45. Although it might be a G 21 rather than a 1911.
Last time around it would have been with a .38, but what did I know.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:32 PM (ebxKR)

Hey Red, I hear you...if you told me to take hill 302 and handed me the thin, light weight Barretta 9MM as my side arm, I'd be all like, yeah, I'm not going to make it.

But if you gave me a back weighted 1911 and some gung ho ship mates, I'd be all like, yeah, I think I can see us doing this!

Posted by: Boswell at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (32YRo)

213 The 3 weapons needed are the SMLE, the SLR and the Hi Power.



All else just ices the cake.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:34 PM (bgJ0E)

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What, no love for the Webley?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (cfSRQ)

214 'Tis all a game, JTB, how right you are. And what better way to turn dollars into smoke and noise.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (ebxKR)

215 On Monday last, I picked up a Remington Model 11, the five shot version ( I had a three shot Sportsmans model) for $120 from a local gun store. Tag said...not working, gunsmith special... Cleaned it, lubed it, borrowed a friction ring from my other 11, dry functioned it with a dummy round, and everything seemed to work. Test fired it, absolutely perfect. Not bad for $120. So....good week.....Jasonj

Posted by: jasonj at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (Lopoe)

216 Need doesn't really have anything to do with it, I suppose... My collection isn't huge, but it's fairly representative. Or was, before the canoe accident. I don't any modern bolt-actions or semi-automatic shotguns.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:33 PM (NWiLs)
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You could always order a barred action in your favorite caliber, stock of choice, scope, rings, and do the assembly work.

It's an interesting process.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (WEBkv)

217 Or if you are on a budget, an M-551 Sheridan loaded with 152mm beehive rounds.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (PP3gl)

218 If you want a striker fired pistol, the PPQ is a very wicked accurate magic pistol. If you can haul your ass up to WA, I can 'help you find one'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:34 PM (d1uFV)

Sweet! Believe me, another trek out to the great PNW is on my agenda once I've righted the ship, as it were.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (NWiLs)

219 What don't you have that you need?

An M1A2?

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (3H9h1)

220 If you want a hammer-fired pistol, get a CZ. CZ75, SP-01, P0-07...I'm really impressed with them.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:34


Fine choices all. But after the rest, and you're ready for the best, I'll be here.

Posted by: Heckler & Koch P-30 at May 24, 2020 08:38 PM (DMUuz)

221
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What, no love for the Webley?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (cfSRQ)

Only if I want to hit Fuzzy Wuzzies. Over the head. Then you are on a winner.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:38 PM (bgJ0E)

222 The 3 weapons needed are the SMLE, the SLR and the Hi Power.

All else just ices the cake.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:34 PM (bgJ0E)
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SLR? For taking pictures of your shooting?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:38 PM (WEBkv)

223 219 What don't you have that you need?

An M1A2?
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (3H9h1)

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*grins*

Horde mind is a wonderful thing.

Posted by: SMH at May 24, 2020 08:38 PM (RU4sa)

224 120mm attached to an M1A2.
Posted by: SMH at May 24, 2020 08:36 PM (RU4sa)

I had a feeling you'd say that!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:39 PM (NWiLs)

225 215 On Monday last, I picked up a Remington Model 11, the five shot version ( I had a three shot Sportsmans model) for $120 from a local gun store. Tag said...not working, gunsmith special... Cleaned it, lubed it, borrowed a friction ring from my other 11, dry functioned it with a dummy round, and everything seemed to work. Test fired it, absolutely perfect. Not bad for $120. So....good week.....Jasonj
Posted by: jasonj at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (Lopoe)


I

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:39 PM (bgJ0E)

226 219 What don't you have that you need?

An M1A2?
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (3H9h1)
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I figured Mr. FancyLawyerPants already had one.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:39 PM (+c1jw)

227 226 219 What don't you have that you need?

An M1A2?
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (3H9h1)
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I figured Mr. FancyLawyerPants already had one.
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:39 PM (+c1jw)

Best negotiating tool EVAH!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:40 PM (NWiLs)

228 Guy at the range this week had a "survival rifle", an under-folder with a .410 shotgun/22 Hornet - I think the M6 Air Crew Survival Weapon. He said he'd bought in 20 years ago for not much.

Every range duty day, I see something I didn't know about. Continuing edumucation of the best kind.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 08:40 PM (El6T/)

229 Or... if you're particular to the Marines.. a loaded LHA. Not picky. Just need the stores to go with whatever is proffered.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 24, 2020 08:40 PM (3H9h1)

230 I think what NZ Frank means with reference to "Fuzzy Wuzzy" is the Abos. Because in New Guinea during World War II that is what the natives were often called.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:40 PM (PP3gl)

231
Only if I want to hit Fuzzy Wuzzies. Over the head. Then you are on a winner.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:38 PM (bgJ0E)

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Even Churchill chose a German auto-loader over what the British gunmakers offered.

Speaks volumes, doesn't it?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 08:40 PM (cfSRQ)

232 I like leather holsters. My favorite, hands down, are Don Hume three slot OWB.

Then we go Galco, DeSantis


I'm trying a Pro Carry On Duty from 'thehosterstore' dot net. I'll see if it's any good.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:41 PM (d1uFV)

233 ..I thought you wanted a blued 18" barrel w/gold bead sight?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 08:02 PM (DMUuz)




I acquired one exactly such, just a couple months ago. Very mint.

The two round extension is the next and near-to-final quest for it.

I'll have two sets of wood for it. One, a very fine, very glossy Wingmaster sporting stock and fore end. I've also got the nicest "tootsie roll" riot fore end around. I just need to find a Police Standard 870 walnut stock of a similar grain and color.

Only has to be in Very Good condition. I can restore it to Mint.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 24, 2020 08:41 PM (QzJWU)

234 lol Insomniac.

Something about staring down the gun tube of a main battle tank tends to get people to see the error of their ways.

Posted by: SMH at May 24, 2020 08:41 PM (RU4sa)

235 230 I think what NZ Frank means with reference to "Fuzzy Wuzzy" is the Abos. Because in New Guinea during World War II that is what the natives were often called.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:40 PM (PP3gl)


Noooo. Think 1880's. Sudan, etc. Little wars.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:41 PM (bgJ0E)

236 Sudan?

Oh yes Gordon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:42 PM (PP3gl)

237 Also, you can get magazine extensions for the Remington 870 that will fit the 11, just takes a spacer you can fab from PVC fitting to make your 11 an 7,8 or 9 shot. Have not done that yet, but considering it. I like old school, machined weapons. jasonj

Posted by: jasonj at May 24, 2020 08:42 PM (Lopoe)

238 234 lol Insomniac.

Something about staring down the gun tube of a main battle tank tends to get people to see the error of their ways.
Posted by: SMH at May 24, 2020 08:41 PM (RU4sa)


*rumble rumble rumble*
*whirrrrrrr*
So, let's talk about that limitation of liability provision you're so set on.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:42 PM (NWiLs)

239 with a sex-second delayed action fuse

Heh. Anna that's exactly how I measure it.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 24, 2020 08:43 PM (cknjq)

240 I'm trying a Pro Carry On Duty from 'thehosterstore' dot net. I'll see if it's any good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:41 PM (d1uFV)
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There is a guy here in CA that makes really good leather holsters. I've got one I've used for CCW and IDPA for several years. I've used the holster hard and it's held up extremely well.


Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:43 PM (WEBkv)

241
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Even Churchill chose a German auto-loader over what the British gunmakers offered.

Speaks volumes, doesn't it?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 08:40 PM (cfSRQ)

I presume you know why C

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:43 PM (bgJ0E)

242 Where does an M1A2 park?

Anywhere it darn pleases.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:43 PM (PP3gl)

243

I liked the SMLE I fired, it had the slickest bolt operation I ever felt.
Never shot the SLR, and the HI Power doesn't really fit my hand as the 1911 does.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 24, 2020 08:44 PM (KATBx)

244 Or maybe I'll just start with getting the extractor on my Steyr M9 fixed.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:44 PM (NWiLs)

245 Opps again. Why Churchill did use a Mauser?

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:44 PM (bgJ0E)

246 I think what NZ Frank means with reference to "Fuzzy Wuzzy" is the Abos. Because in New Guinea during World War II that is what the natives were often called.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:40 PM


Sudan, Four Feathers era, IIRC.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 08:44 PM (DMUuz)

247 Crud, weasel, can you fix the url I just put in? I just realized I might have opened the owner up to all kinds of unwanted spam.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:45 PM (WEBkv)

248 Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:45 PM (NWiLs)

249 Most Fuzzy Wuzzies were dealt with with a 16 Pounder.

From the Sudan.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2020 08:45 PM (Z+IKu)

250 Yes, I have thought about using them I have an old Weaver scope with a "Litschert" magnifier fitted to it. It was on Dads Stevens 44 1/2 single shot rifle. The recticle is no longer visible... I expect that to be a pricey rebuild, but I love their work.
I found a company called Grubee that sells mounts exactly like I want... They also sell pedal bike engines, and were in China on a buying trip and are stuck there...I have 6 "rimfire" scopes, and they are period correct for my older 22s. Once I get the mounts bought, fun ( for me anyway) will ensue

Posted by: Jesse in DC at May 24, 2020 08:46 PM (ouR/N)

251 248 Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:45 PM (NWiLs)

Also had no hair. Alegedly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:46 PM (d1uFV)

252 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:45 PM (WEBkv)
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Deleted it

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:47 PM (+c1jw)

253 Blake, looks like that holster URL vanished.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:47 PM (d1uFV)

254 ah

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:47 PM (d1uFV)

255 251 248 Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:45 PM (NWiLs)

Also had no hair. Alegedly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:46 PM (d1uFV)

The heartbreak of ursine alopecia.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:47 PM (NWiLs)

256 Anyone have experience with Boyd's stocks? I'm thinking of upgrading from my plastic Ruger American Predator stock.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:47 PM (ebxKR)

257 The 3 weapons needed are the Garand, the M14, and the 1911.

All else just ices the cake.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 24, 2020 08:30 PM (KATBx)

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Sorry, the AR platform has surpassed its predecessors.

I know this is hard for the Old Guard to absorb, but it's true. The modular aspect means you can swap out calibers pretty damn quick. Think 5.56 is a pussy round? Fine, you can upgrade it to basically whatever you want.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 08:48 PM (cfSRQ)

258 Churchill had an arm injury that prevented him from using his sword ( calvary type of course) so a semi was more useful than a revolver, that and he was a complete gun gadget guy and the C96 was just the latest thing.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:48 PM (bgJ0E)

259 255 251 248 Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:45 PM (NWiLs)

Also had no hair. Alegedly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:46 PM (d1uFV)

The heartbreak of ursine alopecia.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:47 PM (NWiLs)

Bear pattern baldness...the struggle is real.

Hey, I almost hit a bear on my way home from the range yesterday. Fucking juvenile bear wandered off of the shoulder right in front of my car. I laid on the horn and he finally scampered back onto the shoulder.

First time that's happened.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:49 PM (d1uFV)

260 256 Anyone have experience with Boyd's stocks? I'm thinking of upgrading from my plastic Ruger American Predator stock.
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:47 PM (ebxKR)
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Take a look at McMillan.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:49 PM (+c1jw)

261 Blake, looks like that holster URL vanished.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:47 PM (d1uFV)
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Weasel got rid of it at my request because I realized putting in a URL like that was kind of stupid.

Thanks, weasel.

ttgunleather put a period here com

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:49 PM (WEBkv)

262 Also had no hair. Alegedly.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:46 PM (d1uFV)

The heartbreak of ursine alopecia.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:47 PM (NWiLs)

He's be laughing now. Imagine how hard it is to find a Bear Barber open without a lock down.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:49 PM (A5zUN)

263 Weasel got rid of it at my request because I realized putting in a URL like that was kind of stupid.

Thanks, weasel.

ttgunleather put a period here com
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:49 PM (WEBkv)

Thanks to you both. I'll check them out

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:50 PM (d1uFV)

264 260 256 Anyone have experience with Boyd's stocks? I'm thinking of upgrading from my plastic Ruger American Predator stock.
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:47 PM (ebxKR)
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Take a look at McMillan.
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:49 PM (+c1jw)

This.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:50 PM (bgJ0E)

265 260 256 Anyone have experience with Boyd's stocks? I'm thinking of upgrading from my plastic Ruger American Predator stock.
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 08:47 PM (ebxKR)
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Take a look at McMillan.
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:49 PM (+c1jw)
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Also, if you're interested in a bedding job, I know a guy.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:50 PM (+c1jw)

266 256- RI Red.
Yes the Boyds are nice. I have on on a .22

Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 08:50 PM (y1Mvi)

267 Hey, I almost hit a bear on my way home from the range yesterday. Fucking juvenile bear wandered off of the shoulder right in front of my car. I laid on the horn and he finally scampered back onto the shoulder.

First time that's happened.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:49 PM (d1uFV)

Holy shit!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:51 PM (NWiLs)

268 Also, if you're interested in a bedding job, I know a guy.

Phrasing???

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:51 PM (PP3gl)

269 Blake @ 240, the leather smell is the perfect accent to the gun oil, the women love it. At least Mrs. E does.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 08:51 PM (XhWtx)

270 Hey, I almost hit a bear on my way home from the range yesterday. Fucking juvenile bear wandered off of the shoulder right in front of my car. I laid on the horn and he finally scampered back onto the shoulder.

First time that's happened.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:49 PM (d1uFV)
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I saw the aftermath of a Jeep/Bear collision on a mountain road.

I'm not sure anyone survived, because it was an open top jeep that was upside down on the road.

Bear was just a lump of fur laying there.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:51 PM (WEBkv)

271 268 Also, if you're interested in a bedding job, I know a guy.

Phrasing???
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:51 PM (PP3gl)
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As soon as I tapped post I regretted it!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:52 PM (+c1jw)

272 I used to have a 6906 like that, and I traded it for a 4516. Same basic thing but in .45. Had it for ages and never had any sort of failure to feed or malfunction with many different types of ammo.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 24, 2020 08:53 PM (Mm4NK)

273 Sorry, the AR platform has surpassed its predecessors.
I know this is hard for the Old Guard to absorb, but it's true. The modular aspect means you can swap out calibers pretty damn quick. Think 5.56 is a pussy round? Fine, you can upgrade it to basically whatever you want.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 08:48 PM (cfSRQ)

Concur. Of all the rifles semi and auto that I have shot, the AR platform does everything well and is trooper friendly.

On the civilian market, it has no equal.

And I love old skool rifles, pistols and revolvers.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2020 08:53 PM (Z+IKu)

274 Bedding job? What else do you call it.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:53 PM (bgJ0E)

275 As soon as I tapped post I regretted it!
Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:52 PM (+c1jw)
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More phrasing!

You're on a roll!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:53 PM (WEBkv)

276 Churchill had an arm injury that prevented him from
using his sword ( calvary type of course) so a semi was more useful than
a revolver, that and he was a complete gun gadget guy and the C96 was
just the latest thing.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:48 PM (bgJ0E)

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Sorry, had to chase down some 9mm Largo.

Anyhow, you are correct. Churchill was a champion sabre fencer but dislocated his shoulder on his arrival in India. Certain movements would result in it slipping out again, so he chose to go with a pistol rather than a sword when he went into action.

He credits that quirk of fate with not only saving his own life, but the lives of other troopers at Omdurman. His account of the charge where he empties the pistol, clears the throng, and pauses to drop in another clip makes one's heart skip a beat.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 08:53 PM (cfSRQ)

277 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 08:17 PM (NWiLs)

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yes.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 24, 2020 08:53 PM (i6uJ1)

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:53 PM (PP3gl)

279 274 Bedding job? What else do you call it.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:53 PM (bgJ0E)
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$500

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:54 PM (+c1jw)

280 Where does an M1A2 park?

Anywhere it darn pleases.
Posted by: Anna Puma

As long as it's close to the fuel browsers

Posted by: Jean at May 24, 2020 08:54 PM (IKqcz)

281 Did I wander into the Bulwark comment thread by mistake?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 08:54 PM (A5zUN)

282 CHEAPER IN TOWN.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:55 PM (bgJ0E)

283 I know this is hard for the Old Guard to absorb, but it's true.

Sometimes the old ways are the best ways, Grasshopper.

Think 5.56 is a pussy round?
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 08:48 PM


The 5.56 got it reputation originally with a 55gr bullet dispensed from a 20" barrel with an arguably too-slow twist. This made the round nearly unstable, and was the driver of the wounding effects seen.

With faster twist barrels, it's much more accurate, but there's a significant velocity loss going from 20" to 16".

I gotta side with irongrampa on this one.

Now, get off of my lawn. ;-0

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 08:55 PM (DMUuz)

284 As long as it's close to the fuel browsers
Posted by: Jean at May 24, 2020 08:54 PM (IKqcz)
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Yeah, it's rated in "GPM" rather than "MPG."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:55 PM (WEBkv)

285 282 CHEAPER IN TOWN.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:55 PM (bgJ0E)
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Ha!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 08:56 PM (+c1jw)

286 I have a Ruger P90. Honestly, it shoots as good as my SIG P220. Cost about 1/4th the price

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:56 PM (d1uFV)

287 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?

Posted by: Insomniac

I'm buying odd stuff now, so a Bond Bullpup 9

Posted by: Jean at May 24, 2020 08:56 PM (IKqcz)

288 For the DP-28, Gun Jesus has a good video on the DPM-28. And there are a few others on UToob with the proper and civilized full-auto DP-28s being fired. The pan magazine seems to work quite well.

The DP-28 has a conical flash hider almost the size of those on anti-aircraft guns like the ZSUs. The Russian guy knew his idiotic CA gun laws. I said - "hmm, flash hider?? Za-PRYO-shona! (forbidden)" - he said with a smirk - "no, muzzle brake, of course!".

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 08:56 PM (El6T/)

289 ZSU-23 Shilka?

Now that would clear out a traffic jam PDQ

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:57 PM (PP3gl)

290
He credits that quirk of fate with not only saving his own life, but the lives of other troopers at Omdurman. His account of the charge where he empties the pistol, clears the throng, and pauses to drop in another clip makes one's heart skip a beat.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at May 24, 2020 08:53 PM (cfSRQ)

I must admit to being a Churchill fanboi. I was given Churchill "stuff" from age 1.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:57 PM (bgJ0E)

291 So I heard Tank Abrams got lost in Georgia driving yesterday and stopped to ask for directions from some guy.

How do I get to 285? she asked

Diet and exercise, he said

Posted by: jsg at May 24, 2020 08:57 PM (KtbSq)

292 a sex-second delayed action fuse


Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 08:34 PM (PP3gl)


Damn, that's hot!

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 08:57 PM (d6gL5)

293 How do you find the Nosler? I have used factory RWS
and Lapua with a bit of Hornady. I use Berger LVDS 300 and 250 gn for my
loads in the RWS and Lapua brass.



Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 08:20 PM (bgJ0E)

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to be honest, it's never been fired... yet.

she's busy girl with very little free time and a stressful commute and position, managing a home infusion pharmacy.

hell, she's on call this weekend, and dare not go far from home, lest she have to drive down by LAX and prepared and dispatch something.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 24, 2020 08:58 PM (i6uJ1)

294 270 Hey, I almost hit a bear on my way home from the range yesterday. Fucking juvenile bear wandered off of the shoulder right in front of my car. I laid on the horn and he finally scampered back onto the shoulder.

First time that's happened.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:49 PM (d1uFV)
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I saw the aftermath of a Jeep/Bear collision on a mountain road.

I'm not sure anyone survived, because it was an open top jeep that was upside down on the road.

Bear was just a lump of fur laying there.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:51 PM (WEBkv)

This was a pretty small black bear, maybe the size of my Rottie, Logan.

I called animal control, hopefully they corralled it. Hate to think of a truck hitting that thing. Poor dummy did not understand cars, roads or horns.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:58 PM (d1uFV)

295 This was a pretty small black bear, maybe the size of my Rottie, Logan.

I called animal control, hopefully they corralled it. Hate to think of a truck hitting that thing. Poor dummy did not understand cars, roads or horns.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:58 PM (d1uFV)
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Good deal.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:59 PM (WEBkv)

296 287 So...here's a conversation starter. What should my next gun be?

Posted by: Insomniac

I'm buying odd stuff now, so a Bond Bullpup 9
Posted by: Jean at May 24, 2020 08:56 PM (IKqcz)

Isn't that the one where the bullets go the wrong way in the magazine?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 09:00 PM (NWiLs)

297 Story at FB:

"Korean flamethrower squirrels have arrived in US"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 24, 2020 09:00 PM (L2ZTs)

298 Righty ho Mr Weasel and all. Teh doggie is begging me to take a shotgun for a walk. See y;all next time.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 09:01 PM (bgJ0E)

299 I'm buying odd stuff now, so a Bond Bullpup 9
Posted by: Jean at May 24, 2020 08:56 PM (IKqcz)

Isn't that the one where the bullets go the wrong way in the magazine?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 24, 2020 09:00 PM (NWiLs)

*harrumph*

Let us read from the Book of Browning!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:01 PM (A5zUN)

300 if you told me to take hill 302 and handed me the
thin, light weight Barretta 9MM as my side arm, I'd be all like, yeah,
I'm not going to make it.

Posted by: Boswell at May 24, 2020 08:37 PM (32YRo)


Whereas, I'd be like "Hell yeah!" Because I also have a radio, and half a dozen A-10s at the IP with full loads of 1000-lbers and 30mm. The 9mm is just for coup-de-graces and any enemy that escape the carnage.

GO AIR FORCE!

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 09:01 PM (d6gL5)

301 "I used to have a 6906 like that, and I traded it for a 4516. Same basic thing but in .45."

Excellent, I own a 4516.
If you run out of ammo, it is very useful as a blunt object.
But, I wouldn't know anything about that.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 24, 2020 09:02 PM (w7KSn)

302

If you want to consider the ARs a superior platform, fine with me.

I'll just mention that I'm able to reach out and touch you from an embarrassing distance with considerable velocity remaining with either the Garand or the M14.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 24, 2020 09:02 PM (KATBx)

303 MAE @ 286- I had a Ruger P85 and ended up giving it away to a friend, but I kept my Sig P220. It's sweet ain't it?

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 09:02 PM (XhWtx)

304 298 Righty ho Mr Weasel and all. Teh doggie is begging me to take a shotgun for a walk. See y;all next time.
Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at May 24, 2020 09:01 PM (bgJ0E)
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'Night, brother.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:02 PM (+c1jw)

305 The Gospel of Browning

https://tinyurl.com/jjf6t96

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:03 PM (A5zUN)

306 The Russian guys loved the M1 Carbine - I brought my reproduction, not the real one, but like everyone they loved how easy it was to shoot, how light it was.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 09:03 PM (El6T/)

307 Also, if you're interested in a bedding job, I know a guy.

And, how.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at May 24, 2020 09:04 PM (EgshT)

308 Weasel- Thanks for the mighty gun thread!
I'll send you a pic of my spotting scope project i am working on one of these days.

Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 09:04 PM (y1Mvi)

309 From my understanding, a lot of ww2 troops would have gladly traded their m1 Garands for a carbine or Thompson sub. THere was the cool factor, the unusual factor, and at least for the carbine, the fact that it was lighter.

But I have always heard those two weapons as being at the top of the "less effective than you want list" The carbine for sure has always had this reputation. Too bad because it is a hell of a fun gun to shoot. And since we are not always in a heavy infantry war, I am sure it works for most applications.

Posted by: Quint at May 24, 2020 09:04 PM (hHxp2)

310 McMillan, ok. And I Ackshully know how to bed a, uhh, rifle.

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 09:04 PM (ebxKR)

311 AR platform

Blow Back or Piston drive?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 24, 2020 09:05 PM (2DOZq)

312 303 MAE @ 286- I had a Ruger P85 and ended up giving it away to a friend, but I kept my Sig P220. It's sweet ain't it?
Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 09:02 PM (XhWtx)

I like the decocker. I've pinched my fingers more times than I can count doing fast reloads. But it shoots. Runs like a truck.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 09:06 PM (d1uFV)

313 AR platform

Blow Back or Piston drive?
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 24, 2020 09:05 PM (2DOZq)
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Direct impingement.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 09:06 PM (WEBkv)

314 308 Weasel- Thanks for the mighty gun thread!
I'll send you a pic of my spotting scope project i am working on one of these days.
Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 09:04 PM (y1Mvi)
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My pleasure, pal.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:06 PM (+c1jw)

315 Thanks for another great gub thread, Weasel!

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 24, 2020 09:07 PM (w7KSn)

316 And one guy down on the main range had a beautiful 91/59 - Mosin rifle cut down to "carbine" length. But the thing is these were done much later than the pre-war/WWII M38s and M44s, and saw almost no use. So the bluing on the metal is beautiful, the crowns are perfect, stocks are even nice in their original cheap Soviet shellac.

He loads lower-powered 54R with lead bullets, and it shoots easy, and very accurate out to 200 yds with the iron sights.

Seems like most 91/59s in circulation are Polish or East German. Would love to add one to the safe, or even swap one of the Mosin 91/30s for one as beautiful as the one this guy had. Function and form.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 09:07 PM (El6T/)

317 310 McMillan, ok. And I Ackshully know how to bed a, uhh, rifle.
Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 09:04 PM (ebxKR)
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That's right! A man of many talents.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:07 PM (+c1jw)

318 315 Thanks for another great gub thread, Weasel!
Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 24, 2020 09:07 PM (w7KSn)
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Happy to do it. Thank you for being here!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:08 PM (+c1jw)

319 Ok, this really is a bizarre time to be alive.

According to bing news thingee, Hitler's Alligator has died at 84.

*checks glass*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:08 PM (A5zUN)

320 309 Quint
I know an operator that found a Savage Thompson in Iraq and said it was one of the best house sweepers they had

Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 09:09 PM (y1Mvi)

321 302 ... "I'll just mention that I'm able to reach out and touch you from an embarrassing distance with considerable velocity remaining with either the Garand or the M14."

irongrampa,
Can't argue about the Garand. But your list left off the flintlock rifle and single action revolver (you choose the caliber).

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 09:09 PM (7EjX1)

322 Yeah, it's rated in "GPM" rather than "MPG."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:55 PM (WEBkv)


Yeah, but it really doesn't have to drive that far if the main gun is serviceable. Just enough to have a clear line of sight.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 09:10 PM (d6gL5)

323 319 Ok, this really is a bizarre time to be alive.

According to bing news thingee, Hitler's Alligator has died at 84.

*checks glass*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:08 PM (A5zUN)
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At 84 he was in a high risk group.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:10 PM (+c1jw)

324 How do I get to 285? she asked

Diet and exercise, he said
Posted by: jsg at May 24, 2020 08:57 PM (KtbSq)

Hah! Entirely plausible.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2020 09:11 PM (DEayt)

325 Hitler's Alligator didn't shoot himself.

Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2020 09:11 PM (l3+k2)

326 I think we all agree that Hitler's Alligator should be recorded as a Covid death.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 24, 2020 09:11 PM (H5knJ)

327 "I think we all agree that Hitler's Alligator should be recorded as a Covid death."

LOL
Biggest laugh I have had all day

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 24, 2020 09:12 PM (w7KSn)

328 09 Quint

I know an operator that found a Savage Thompson in Iraq and said it was one of the best house sweepers they had

Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 09:09 PM (y1Mvi)

I don't doubt it has some excellent applications. Just like the Israelis with UZI's. In the right scenario, watch out. But I would hate to have sub if the situation got long range. ANd really, if it where are sub vs a rifle at close range, in the open field, there is only one choice I would think. But for sure they have their applications.

Posted by: Quint at May 24, 2020 09:12 PM (hHxp2)

329 Pretty sure lots of WWII guys had all kinds of preferences for things they didn't have, or loved what they did have. Depended a lot on location, conditions, nature of the action.

There was a "cool" factor with the Thompson, but that's probably because it was publicly known from the gangster wars and the police/FBI wars against them.

My late USMC WWII vet friend had great black/white photos from Guadalcanal, of him and another young guy posing, shorts, no shirts, with Thompsons, under palm trees.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 09:13 PM (El6T/)

330 Sua Sponte via the Barrel?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 09:13 PM (PP3gl)

331

Gotta run, thanks for the gun thread, Weasel. I learn something every time.

Mostly how knowledgeable y'all are.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 24, 2020 09:13 PM (KATBx)

332 AR platform
Blow Back or Piston drive?
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 24, 2020 09:05 PM (2DOZq)

Both. The AR-180 shoots very well and has a different recoil, more like an SKS push but lighter. And the bolt is spotless after you shoot it. No carbon back that far.

The standard AR thump/sprong is easy to get used to and I start to enjoy it after a few rounds. But you do have to clean the bolt well as carbon gets inside it more so than a short stroke piston gun.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 24, 2020 09:13 PM (Z+IKu)

333 You know who else had an alligator?

(I have no idea what that means. I'm just in that end-of-the-weekend screw off mode now.)

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 09:13 PM (qc+VF)

334 Aestius, obviously Saturn the alligator didn't listen to Ruth Vader-Meinhoff Ginsburg about longevity advice.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 09:14 PM (PP3gl)

335 Thanks again, weasel! Time for me to wander!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 09:14 PM (WEBkv)

336 You know who else had an alligator?



(I have no idea what that means. I'm just in that end-of-the-weekend screw off mode now.)

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 09:13 PM (qc+VF)

The bad guy in Romancing the Stone?

Posted by: Quint at May 24, 2020 09:14 PM (hHxp2)

337 Hitler's alligator had one testicle.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 09:14 PM (XhWtx)

338 I think the alligator story is a croc.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2020 09:15 PM (DEayt)

339 I'll post here, because it was an entertaining day. I drove up to Carson, WA in the Gorge, where I used to live. First amusement was the old Trading Post. I knew the store had been sold. They had the most amazing collection of stuff for sale. On the window facing the street, the owners had painted "Christian Conservatives", "We are not afraid" and "Wolverines". Drove up to Stabler and was happy to see the church seems to still be going. Someone had painted a board with "Locals only. Respect our community" and nailed it up on a tree next to the road.

Interesting stuff. People n that community used to meet Census takers with a gun. I suspect they don't care if the tourist industry dries up and blows away.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at May 24, 2020 09:15 PM (Lqy/e)

340 Watch out. Hitler's alligator is hiding in the barrel.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at May 24, 2020 09:15 PM (EgshT)

341 Hitler's alligator had 3 gonads.
A medical condition named "tri-orchid".
Hence, pawn shops.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 24, 2020 09:15 PM (w7KSn)

342 good stuff Weasel. I always heard those SW semis were underrated.

Posted by: Quint at May 24, 2020 09:16 PM (hHxp2)

343
Gotta run, thanks for the gun thread, Weasel. I learn something every time.

Mostly how knowledgeable y'all are.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 24, 2020 09:13 PM (KATBx)
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My pleasure irongrandpa!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:17 PM (+c1jw)

344 So they didn't keep the alligator in the bunker? (btw never heard of any exotic pets belonging to You Know Who)

Most don't know that Eva also had a dog (two dogs, I think, small breed, can't remember which). Also were kilt and burned along with the "first couple" of the Reich. Blondie was poisoned to test the cyanide. I think the Russkis found at least remains of one dog in the ditch where they got the rest.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 09:17 PM (El6T/)

345 When Quilters Irish Death was shooting my 21 Colt Friday he was practicing the 101'st airborne 3 round burst. Right pants pocket, gut, heart. He got pretty good at it.
lots of Germans surrendered to guys. with Thompsons.

Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 09:17 PM (y1Mvi)

346 'Hitler's Alligator' should definitely be a made for SyFy movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:17 PM (A5zUN)

347 335 Thanks again, weasel! Time for me to wander!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 09:14 PM (WEBkv)
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Happy to do it, blake. See ya!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:17 PM (+c1jw)

348 I would love a Walther PPQ. I have been fostering Marine ratched's and will untill he is allowed to have a personal sidearm, I don't know the rules. But, I bought it for him.

I'd also like a Kimber 1911.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2020 09:18 PM (U2p+3)

349 nurse, where's your leatherneck? Pendleton?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 24, 2020 09:19 PM (El6T/)

350 Hitler's Alligator opened for Pavlov's Dog back in the 70's.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2020 09:19 PM (aKsyK)

351 Hitler's Alligator was part Jewish.

Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2020 09:19 PM (l3+k2)

352 Hitler's Alligator?

The hard part would getting the little mustache to stick on the snout... though the patent leather boots if alligator hide might be problamatic.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 09:20 PM (PP3gl)

353 351 Hitler's Alligator was part Jewish.
Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2020 09:19 PM (l3+k2)

That's just the way he wears his pants.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 09:20 PM (d1uFV)

354
342 good stuff Weasel. I always heard those SW semis were underrated.
Posted by: Quint at May 24, 2020 09:16 PM (hHxp2)
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Thanks for stopping by, Quint!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:20 PM (+c1jw)

355 Hitler's Alligator opened for Pavlov's Dog back in the 70's.

At the Cow Palace.

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at May 24, 2020 09:20 PM (EgshT)

356 Hitler's Alligator opened for Pavlov's Dog back in the 70's.

Then he ate the dog and Pavlov because whoever heard of a vegetarian alligator?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 09:21 PM (PP3gl)

357 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 24, 2020 08:41 PM (d1uFV)


Thank you.


ttgunleather put a period here com

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 08:49 PM (WEBkv)

9:20 PM 5/24/2020
Thank you, too.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 09:21 PM (d6gL5)

358 The hard part would getting the little mustache to stick on the snout... though the patent leather boots if alligator hide might be problamatic.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 09:20 PM (PP3gl)

I figure they would find some way to etch the Nazi Eagle and Swastika into a scale or two. They put those on everything.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:21 PM (A5zUN)

359 Damn. White Phosphorus is not a laughing matter. He was a Man.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 07:58 PM (A5zUN)

They liberated a Medal from a display case in Hawaii and flew it out to Guam so that there was some chance he would receive the Medal before he died.

After years of surgery, he received a disability discharge as a MSgt in 1947.

He served as a benefits counselor at the Birmingham VA hospital for over 30 years. He died at home in 2002, age 80.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:21 PM (qyH+l)

360
I'd also like a Kimber 1911.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2020 09:18 PM (U2p+3)
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My carry gun is a Kimber Compact Custom. Love it.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:21 PM (+c1jw)

361 Oh, and before I wander, it looks like things might get sporty in CA.

Palm Spring, Insty has the link, cop showed up out of the blue and cited a bunch of restaurant workers for disobeying the lock down order. 1K fine.

9th Circuit has denied the 1A rights of churches, so, we are now in open rebellion against CA when we "officially" open on May 31.

Again, Insty has the link.

Later.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 09:22 PM (WEBkv)

362 I figure they would find some way to etch the Nazi Eagle and Swastika into a scale or two. They put those on everything.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:21 PM (A5zUN)

And Tamiya makes a scale model.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2020 09:22 PM (DEayt)

363 351 Hitler's Alligator was part Jewish.
Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2020 09:19 PM (l3+k2)

Hitler's Alligator was surprisingly woke.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:23 PM (A5zUN)

364 Hitler's Alligator didn't wear the mask.

Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2020 09:23 PM (l3+k2)

365 rhomboid,
He is at Ft Lost in the woods, Misery at his MOS school.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2020 09:24 PM (U2p+3)

366 nurse, I thought you were a G19 believer.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 09:24 PM (XhWtx)

367 Has anybody had any experience with Kimber 1911s in (gasp) 9 mm?

Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:24 PM (qyH+l)

368 *ponders*

Stacey Abrams versus Hitler's Alligator

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 09:25 PM (PP3gl)

369 I love the Kimber custom 2. I never thought about getting a 1911 in 9mm but pretty much everyone who has one raves about them.

Posted by: Quint at May 24, 2020 09:26 PM (hHxp2)

370 Traded my 6906 a couple years ago for the Sig P290.
More concealable.

But that 6906 was a tack driver for offhand shooting-from-the-hip, just seemed like a natural for pointing.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2020 09:26 PM (cqteU)

371 367 Has anybody had any experience with Kimber 1911s in (gasp) 9 mm?
Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:24 PM (qyH+l)

*eyes the Gospel of Browning*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:26 PM (A5zUN)

372 Has anybody had any experience with Kimber 1911s in (gasp) 9 mm?
Posted by: Fox2!
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I have an Aegis in 9mm

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 24, 2020 09:26 PM (UUBmN)

373 Hey guys and gals, since the ONT could show up at any time, I just want to thank you all for spending part of your Memorial Day weekend here. I appreciate it! Have a great week.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:27 PM (+c1jw)

374 Emero,
I love my G19 and am proficient with it. It is most certainly my EOTWAWKI firearm.
But I shoot the 1911 andthe Walther a bit better.

Plus, variety is the spice of life,no?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 24, 2020 09:27 PM (U2p+3)

375 Stacey Abrams versus Hitler's Alligator
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 09:25 PM (PP3gl)

Bambi meets Fraudzilla.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2020 09:27 PM (DEayt)

376 Thanks Weasel, you have a great one yourself.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 09:27 PM (PP3gl)

377 Hitler's Alligator preferred 9mm to .45cal.

Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2020 09:27 PM (l3+k2)

378 I have an Aegis in 9mm
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue
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In fact, weasel has shot it.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 24, 2020 09:28 PM (UUBmN)

379
In fact, weasel has shot it.
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 24, 2020 09:28 PM (UUBmN)
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Sure did!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:28 PM (+c1jw)

380 Would have thought that they'd take the alligator to the secret moon base. But I guess that's just how committed to covering their space tracks the Nazis were. "They'll never think we'd leave behind Der Fuhrer's favorite reptile."

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 24, 2020 09:29 PM (H5knJ)

381 367 Has anybody had any experience with Kimber 1911s in (gasp) 9 mm?
Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:24 PM (qyH+l)

Anything that says 1911 and 9mm is an abomination before God.

Thus sayeth the blessed Saint Jonathan MOSES Browning.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 24, 2020 09:29 PM (NgKpN)

382 377 Hitler's Alligator preferred 9mm to .45cal.
Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2020 09:27 PM (l3+k2)

I just had an image of an Alligator with an MP-38 slung around it's neck.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:30 PM (A5zUN)

383 Yeah, Weasel, thank you for inviting us. Y'all have a good day tomorrow and pray for those lost and those found. I will be working early-early.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 09:30 PM (XhWtx)

384 Yes, I have thought about using them I have an old
Weaver scope with a "Litschert" magnifier fitted to it. It was on Dads
Stevens 44 1/2 single shot rifle. The recticle is no longer visible... I
expect that to be a pricey rebuild, but I love their work.

I found a company called Grubee that sells mounts exactly like I
want... They also sell pedal bike engines, and were in China on a buying
trip and are stuck there...I have 6 "rimfire" scopes, and they are
period correct for my older 22s. Once I get the mounts bought, fun ( for
me anyway) will ensue



Posted by: Jesse in DC at May 24, 2020 08:46 PM (ouR/N)

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i'd suggest contacting Vintage Scopes to see if they do re-builds, or if they have replacements at an affordable price.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 24, 2020 09:32 PM (i6uJ1)

385 Good night weasel and have fun at the farm...

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 24, 2020 09:32 PM (UUBmN)

386 Hitler's Alligator hit the beach on LSD-25.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 24, 2020 09:33 PM (aKsyK)

387 383 Yeah, Weasel, thank you for inviting us. Y'all have a good day tomorrow and pray for those lost and those found. I will be working early-early.
Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 09:30 PM (XhWtx)
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Twern't for you all, I wouldn't do it. Hope to have some more fabulous video next week!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:33 PM (+c1jw)

388 Good point, Weasel, as always thanks for my favorite thread every week !


Range report - going tomorrow, seems right to include firearms in observing Memorial Day. Ditto Independence Day.

Probably the usual 5 to 15 rounds from each of the carry guns.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2020 09:33 PM (cqteU)

389 Maybe a Nazi armband.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:33 PM (A5zUN)

390 Traded my 6906 a couple years ago for the Sig P290.
More concealable.


What do you do for leather for the 290? With or without the laser? I checked the two sites posted above and was a bit surprised that both of them say that they have models for the 290 but neither mentions fitting the laser module. I think I'm going to call TT this week and ask.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 09:33 PM (qc+VF)

391 Hitler's Alligator ate Blondi the dog.

Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2020 09:33 PM (l3+k2)

392 385 Good night weasel and have fun at the farm...
Posted by: lin-duh en fugue at May 24, 2020 09:32 PM (UUBmN)
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Will do! Promise I get to see you in October, ok?

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:34 PM (+c1jw)

393 Maybe not really on topic, for which I apologize, but the ChiComs are massing troops on the Indian border and, according to the Indians, have crossed the border into India and set up multiple fortified positions.

They're also cracking down hard in Hong Kong.

Things are about to get real sporty, I'm afraid.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 24, 2020 09:34 PM (hKLpI)

394 Whereas, I'd be like "Hell yeah!" Because I also have a radio, and half a dozen A-10s at the IP with full loads of 1000-lbers and 30mm. The 9mm is just for coup-de-graces and any enemy that escape the carnage.

GO AIR FORCE!
Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 09:01 PM (d6gL5)


And if the A-10s aren't enough, there's either a BUFF or a BONE orbiting at 30,000 feet with an assortment of ordnance on call.

Peace is our Profession.

(I'm old school SAC).

Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:34 PM (qyH+l)

395 Before the ONT shows up, thanks to Weasel and all the contributors who make this such a great thread.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 09:35 PM (7EjX1)

396 Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2020 09:33 PM (cqteU)
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Thanks and thank you for being here, sock rat!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:35 PM (+c1jw)

397 If you must have something related to St. Browning in 9mm, turn thy attention to the P-35.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 09:36 PM (DMUuz)

398 All good, gunnies and gunettes. Although I do miss Weasel Dog.
Night, Boss!
BTW, my RCBS brass shaker just shat the bed. Who knows how many thousands of cases it cleaned. But it had a shitty little ChiCom motor.
Mr Trump, I demand you do something!

Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 09:36 PM (ebxKR)

399 Thanks, Weasel, for the thread and for the sizing die advice. Thanks, Glen, for the Savage info. Y'all have a good Memorial Day and the rest of the week.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 09:37 PM (qc+VF)

400 A question for the experts... In the movie Wall Street Gecko shows off, "The rarest gun in the world," a .45 Lugar.

Real or Hollywood make-believe?



Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2020 09:37 PM (l3+k2)

401 And if the A-10s aren't enough, there's either a BUFF or a BONE orbiting at 30,000 feet with an assortment of ordnance on call.

Peace is our Profession.

(I'm old school SAC).
Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:34 PM


What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Puff the Magic Dragon, and heirs at May 24, 2020 09:37 PM (DMUuz)

402 P-35?

Predecessor of the P-47 Thunderbolt?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 09:37 PM (PP3gl)

403 Anything that says 1911 and 9mm is an abomination before God.

Thus sayeth the blessed Saint Jonathan MOSES Browning.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 24, 2020 09:29 PM (NgKpN)

That's why I put (gasp) in there. But there are supposed to rounds per dollar advantages in 9mm vs God's caliber.

Which is of course one of the deceits if the Evil One.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:38 PM (qyH+l)

404 (I'm old school SAC).
Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:34 PM (qyH+l)

Still the best Insignia.

https://tinyurl.com/y8o6x9f2

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:38 PM (A5zUN)

405 Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 09:35 PM (7EjX1)
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Thanks JTB. It's all of you that make this fun.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:38 PM (+c1jw)

406 Duncanthrax @ 397- Yea verily. And all the children of the righteous rose up and praised Saint John the Moses Browning of Utah. Amen and Amen.

Posted by: Eromero at May 24, 2020 09:39 PM (XhWtx)

407 (I'm old school SAC).

Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:34 PM (qyH+l)


Me too. But flying tankers.

I have controlled both BUFFs and BONEs as a close air support guy. BONEs were meh. But a B-52 going over top of your ridge at 500 feet is a really nice feel. (Yeah, they're all dropping precision munitions now from way up high, but there's a warm glow inside pondering an enemy seeing that BUFF coming over a ridgeline with its bay doors open. First he says it, then he does it, then he catches it.)

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 09:40 PM (d6gL5)

408 RI Red,

Sorry for your loss. Have you considered a wet tumbler style to clean the brass? I just got one but haven't used it yet.

Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 09:40 PM (7EjX1)

409 Posted by: JTB at May 24, 2020 09:35 PM (7EjX1)
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Happy to do it, BtB. Drop me a line if you ever want to chat about precision reloading or load development.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:40 PM (+c1jw)

410
P-35?

Predecessor of the P-47 Thunderbolt?


Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 09:37 PM (PP3gl)

what about the p-38? A cool handgun, a fighter plane, and a can opener.

Posted by: Quint at May 24, 2020 09:41 PM (hHxp2)

411 Posted by: RI Red at May 24, 2020 09:36 PM (ebxKR)
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'Night, pal. WD will be back next Sunday. BTW, were in the process of finding her a little brother or sister!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:43 PM (MVjcR)

412 Still the best Insignia.






Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:38 PM (A5zUN)


No, the best one.... Huh, why can't I find that patch online? The SAC shield, but with testicles dangling from the gauntlet instead of lightning and arrows. Have we forgotten so soon?

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 09:43 PM (d6gL5)

413 P-35?

Predecessor of the P-47 Thunderbolt?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 24, 2020 09:37 PM


You know doggone well the Seversky was not hi-powered.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 09:43 PM (DMUuz)

414 Well, about an hour of daylight left to me. I am going to go outside in the sunshine, and spend some quality time with the weed whacker. Back for the ONT.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2020 09:43 PM (DEayt)

415 A question for the experts... In the movie Wall Street Gecko shows off, "The rarest gun in the world," a .45 Lugar.

Real or Hollywood make-believe?


It's real. Two were made and submitted to the Ordnance Department for testing. Whether that makes it the rarest gun in the world is debatable. There must be a number of prototypes where only one was ever produced.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 09:44 PM (qc+VF)

416 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 24, 2020 09:43 PM (DEayt)
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'Night, AOP!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:44 PM (MVjcR)

417 Bob the B -

It came with a factory OWB in Kydex which fits the laser ... but I actually removed the laser last year because it was a distraction.
Thing I like about the P290 is the similarity to the j-frame in action; draw, long DA trigger pull, repeat.
Turning on the laser, or thinking about it, was slowing my first round to a degree that I did not like ... I spend a (relative) lot of time on variations of the Whatsisname drill, the guy with a knife charging from 21 feet ...
So, took it off, now like j-frame all same-same; in this config I have a generic DeSantis belt-strap type that I formed to fit, actually I think it's the same model that I carry the j-frame in, just formed differently.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2020 09:45 PM (cqteU)

418 Forgotten Weapons did one on the .45 Luger. Or the reproductions a guy is making.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 24, 2020 09:45 PM (A5zUN)

419 Huh, why can't I find that patch online? The SAC
shield, but with testicles dangling from the gauntlet instead of
lightning and arrows. Have we forgotten so soon?


Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 09:43 PM (d6gL5)


There it is!
https://bit.ly/2Zxudgn

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 09:46 PM (d6gL5)

420 Cool. I always thought it was Hollywood make-believe.

Posted by: davidt at May 24, 2020 09:48 PM (l3+k2)

421 For my taste, the P-38 is one of the most beautiful (and Lethal!) aircraft designs ever. I remember telling a younger acquaintance once that the US had built a double fuselage fighter, and he didn't believe me until I showed him pictures of it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2020 09:48 PM (V2Yro)

422 I'm sorry to go OT Weasel but...

After a VERY long day and ending up having to have a c-section, our grandson, Wyatt, has arrived!
8'11", 21.25" long!

Woohoo!



Posted by: Tami at May 24, 2020 09:48 PM (cF8AT)

423 Congratulations, Tami !!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 09:49 PM (DMUuz)

424
After a VERY long day and ending up having to have a c-section, our grandson, Wyatt, has arrived!
8'11", 21.25" long!

Woohoo!

Posted by: Tami at May 24, 2020 09:48 PM (cF8AT)
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No worries! Congratulations!!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:49 PM (MVjcR)

425 Congrats Tami!

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 09:49 PM (qc+VF)

426 Tami !

Woohoo !

Congratulations to all of you !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2020 09:50 PM (cqteU)

427 via WFB, Steve Gutowski interviews a number of first time gun buyers in CA, VA, and AL --

https://tinyurl.com/y8weqkws

The one in CA is thinking about running for local office as a Republican. Before his experience, he supported restrictive gun laws.

Hmmm. Of course, that Staunton news might be another omen too. I hope.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 24, 2020 09:50 PM (Z4rgH)

428 No, the best one.... Huh, why can't I find that patch online? The SAC shield, but with testicles dangling from the gauntlet instead of lightning and arrows. Have we forgotten so soon?
Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 09:43 PM (d6gL5)

Once we got you, we never let go.

I medicaled out of 18xx (at my pre-commissioning physical!). So I changed my dream sheet to 2025.

Wouldn't you know that SAC had about 50 2035s?

Instead of going to Cheyenne Mountain, I went to Loring.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:50 PM (qyH+l)

429 Maybe not really on topic, for which I apologize, but the ChiComs are
massing troops on the Indian border and, according to the Indians, have
crossed the border into India and set up multiple fortified positions.



They're also cracking down hard in Hong Kong.

---

Something, something, war on 17 fronts

Posted by: Londo Mollari at May 24, 2020 09:51 PM (kOpft)

430 For my taste, the P-38 is one of the most beautiful (and Lethal!) aircraft designs ever. I remember telling a younger acquaintance once that the US had built a double fuselage fighter, and he didn't believe me until I showed him pictures of it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2020 09:48 PM


Ahem.

Posted by: North American F-82 at May 24, 2020 09:51 PM (DMUuz)

431 Grammi Tami has a nice ring to it!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:52 PM (MVjcR)

432 431 Grammi Tami has a nice ring to it!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:52 PM (MVjcR)

Ha! It does! Thanks everyone!

Posted by: Tami at May 24, 2020 09:53 PM (cF8AT)

433 "431 Grammi Tami has a nice ring to it!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:52 PM (MVjcR) "


That it does !

Poetic, you might say !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2020 09:53 PM (cqteU)

434 I went to Loring.



Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:50 PM (qyH+l)


A beautiful place. Lots of potatoes. And moose.

Posted by: GWB at May 24, 2020 09:54 PM (d6gL5)

435 It came with a factory OWB in Kydex which fits the laser

I actually forgot about that. I don't even know where mine is. It was a loose fit out of the box and I really want an IWB. I wear a lot of T-shirts and polos that can ride up.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 09:54 PM (qc+VF)

436 429 Maybe not really on topic, for which I apologize, but the ChiComs are
massing troops on the Indian border and, according to the Indians, have
crossed the border into India and set up multiple fortified positions.

They're also cracking down hard in Hong Kong.
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Ruh roh.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 09:54 PM (MVjcR)

437 421 For my taste, the P-38 is one of the most beautiful (and Lethal!) aircraft designs ever. I remember telling a younger acquaintance once that the US had built a double fuselage fighter, and he didn't believe me until I showed him pictures of it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 24, 2020 09:48 PM (V2Yro)

Twin engine fighter? Yes. Pod fighter? Yes. Twin tail? Yes. Double fuselage? Wouldn't that be the F-82 Twin Mustang?

Posted by: Fox2! at May 24, 2020 09:56 PM (qyH+l)

438 Sorry, Bob, I mostly carry OWB, even before the surgery ... which will hopefully be reversed this year.

In summer I do use the bellyband style a lot, worn fairly high ... Alpha Holsters on Amazon ... which is not the worst place to look, actually.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2020 09:59 PM (cqteU)

439 Maybe not really on topic, for which I apologize, but the ChiComs are

massing troops on the Indian border and, according to the Indians, have

crossed the border into India and set up multiple fortified positions.


They're also cracking down hard in Hong Kong.
---
Something, something, war on 17 fronts


Posted by: Londo Mollari at May 24, 2020 09:51 PM (kOpft)

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LOL one of the local Karen's on Nextdoor said that the term "ChiCom" was racist, so i broke her off some knowledge.

i am completely out of GAS for these scolding harridans.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 24, 2020 10:00 PM (i6uJ1)

440 Maybe not really on topic, for which I apologize, but the ChiComs are

massing troops on the Indian border and, according to the Indians, have

crossed the border into India and set up multiple fortified positions.
---
Link?

Posted by: Methos at May 24, 2020 10:01 PM (kOpft)

441 Oh, and nice pic up top, Weasel ... I went to a neighbors funeral yesterday and took pleasure in seeing that the cemetery was freshly decorated.
All praise to WI Legion posts who do this stuff !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2020 10:02 PM (cqteU)

442
This Chicom/India thing is over some border dispute that has heated up recently. Some incident on May 5th. Both China and India claim some territory as their own, I was just reading.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 24, 2020 10:03 PM (rCwaK)

443 Something, something, war on 17 fronts

Presumably one is intended as a distraction from the other but which is which? I would assume the Hong Kong crack down is the real goal because I just can't imagine PRC picking a fight with India. But who knows what the hell they're thinking after the Wuhan debacle.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 24, 2020 10:04 PM (qc+VF)

444

nood !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2020 10:05 PM (cqteU)

445 441 Oh, and nice pic up top, Weasel ... I went to a neighbors funeral yesterday and took pleasure in seeing that the cemetery was freshly decorated.
All praise to WI Legion posts who do this stuff !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2020 10:02 PM (cqteU)
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Thanks sock rat. I usually have to poke around a bit to find a picture to steal from the internet that I like, but I knew this one was the one, instantly.

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 10:05 PM (MVjcR)

446 OK. Goodnight everyone!

Posted by: Weasel at May 24, 2020 10:06 PM (MVjcR)

447 Posted by: DBCooper at May 24, 2020 09:17 PM

That thing was so smooth, but it definitely rides up and right. Completely different from shooting an AR platform.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 24, 2020 10:10 PM (Fiwz/)

448 The F 82 was not a pretty plane. Just two mustangs squashed together. Who flew the plane. The guy on the left or the on the right?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 24, 2020 10:18 PM (2DOZq)

449 The F 82 was not a pretty plane. Just two mustangs squashed together. Who flew the plane. The guy on the left or the on the right?
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 24, 2020 10:18 PM


Originally, both cockpits were active, and the pilots could trade off. Later variants had a pilot in the left cockpit, and a radar operator in the right.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 24, 2020 10:26 PM (DMUuz)

450 you chose wisely !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 24, 2020 10:44 PM (cqteU)

451 After watching the opening scenes of 'Heartbreak Ridge', I suddenly have developed a yearning for an M2 carbine.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 24, 2020 11:09 PM (hnA3K)

452 Wife and I spent Friday/Saturday as instructors at an Appleseed event. Two of seven shooters made their Rifleman score, three of the younger folks got real close. Most fun was one of our new riflemen pulling out a vintage Enfield to shoot the second afternoon.

We both got in some trigger time there. She continued working up her new AR. Found we need to do some more tinkering with the sling setup for standing. She was making 2MOA easily with rounds optimized for my rifle, so this should be a tack driver when we work up a load for it.
I ran my AR as well, and put up a 223/250 score for a requalify. Only one go around as my back was suggesting that more transition stages would be a bad idea. Also debugged a sights issue: I'd replaced an old Bushnell scope with a new Vortex Tactical, and apparently the larger bell on the new scope is amplifying vibrations and working loose the screws on my quick release rings, sending the zero on a random walk. Grrrr. Thread locker, torque 'em down periodically, or a new mount?

We will celebrate Memorial Day by reopening the smallbore class we teach for the local 4H after a Wuflu hiatus. Seems appropriate.

Posted by: Pat*'s Hubby at May 24, 2020 11:13 PM (2pX/F)

453 95 82
So, about my Ruger P89... it's a stainless model with a 15 round
magazine well. Originally purchased in (of all years) 1989 in Memphis,
TN.



Stainless upper, Hogue grips, no other mods.



A "sloppy" gun. But fun to shoot.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 24, 2020 07:47 PM (3H9h1)

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The Mariachi uses two of these in .45 ACP in the film "Desperado."

I swear I thought you were going to say,
"The Mariachi used them as castanets."

Posted by: waepnedmann at May 25, 2020 01:47 AM (teEPr)

454 Such a great Memorial Day photo, Weasel!
Photos like that make the very powerful point that many of those fighters died too young to have descendants like that little girl, and like us.

Posted by: m at May 25, 2020 08:45 AM (rsiY2)

455 No 22lr is going to be a "tack" driver at 100 yards.* For precision, its a 50 yard gun. The problem is the bullet drops through the sound barrier. Just at the sound barrier, there is air accelerating sideways around the bullet. The bullets are nutating a bit, air has tiny eddies, the bullet surface is non perfect. All of these result in the shock wave being more intense on one side than the other side of the bullet for an instant.
A bullet dropping through the speed of sound gets a tiny kick to the side from a random direction. You may have heard of shock wave turbulence. I see it at the range. At 50 yards the bullet holes are touching, tightly clustered. At 100 yards the pattern opens up, no matter how good the gun is.
*note: I have not tried subsonic 22lr at 100 yards. Another reason to get back to the range.

Posted by: FlimFlammed at May 25, 2020 09:15 AM (ZTDnL)

456 361 Oh, and before I wander, it looks like things might get sporty in CA.

Palm Spring, Insty has the link, cop showed up out of the blue and cited a bunch of restaurant workers for disobeying the lock down order. 1K fine.

9th Circuit has denied the 1A rights of churches, so, we are now in open rebellion against CA when we "officially" open on May 31.

Again, Insty has the link.

Later.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 24, 2020 09:22 PM (WEBkv)

Here's what Instapundit links to; it's a twitter account:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ya42ympw

Posted by: m at May 25, 2020 09:26 AM (rsiY2)

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