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Rockwell Military.jpg

Norman Rockwell

Posted by: CBD at 10:15 AM




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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:16 AM (LvTSG)

2 So close.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 25, 2020 10:17 AM (X8yb/)

3 Early
A somber but honorable Memorial Day.
Keep the fire burning.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 25, 2020 10:17 AM (d9Irc)

4 I shall play taps today at 3 PM

Posted by: Bruce at May 25, 2020 10:17 AM (vd8XM)

5 nice pick...

Posted by: Krusty at May 25, 2020 10:17 AM (9nxEV)

6 Prayers up and peaceful rest to all American Heros!

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 25, 2020 10:18 AM (JFO2v)

7 The people who won and maintain our freedoms.

Posted by: Javems at May 25, 2020 10:18 AM (ofIwF)

8 Reposted from late in last thread, in honor of Memorial Day:

It's May 25 and the big breakout is finally under way. And I don't mean the 2020 coronavirus lockdown, I mean the beachhead at Anzio in 1944. Let's take a peek inside my dad's journal. This was the day American forces from the Monte Cassino front linked up with the right flank of the beachhead forces. And the race toward Rome was on! And my dad got to fly over the battlefield in the Stinson L-4 observer plane.

25 May1944 -
Exactly six months in the line -- and what a "semi-versary". The 91st Recon from II Corps came breezing up Hwy 7 to meet the 36th Eng down by Littoria. There was great celebration and our boys took out.
The 3d [Div] pushed up toward Cori, surrounded and finally isolated Cisterna, and went on towards Valmontone. Cori was reduced late in the afternoon. 1 AD [Div] pushed well out to the North. Contact was lost at times, and the Arty had a tough job keeping up. All looks well. Rome may not be so far off.
Taylor took me for a spin over the battlefield. We were up for two hours, watched the shooting in Cori, looked in on Cisterna, saw some Tiger tanks and a few PW's, then went around to various gun positions Gerry had vacated. We saw ten guns either destroyed or abandoned. It was really quite a show.


God bless those who have given their all in service to this great nation in the name of liberty. We will never forget while we still draw breath.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 10:18 AM (Fc5rx)

9 Prayers up and peaceful rest to all American Heros!
Posted by: rhennigantx

I couldn't have said it any better.

Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2020 10:19 AM (sNpqr)

10 I'm drinking my coffee (BRCC) out of a mug with Norman Rockwell art on it.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 25, 2020 10:20 AM (NI4rU)

11 Great pic, CBD. Can you even imagine the soyboys of today taking up arms and fighting for our country?

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 25, 2020 10:20 AM (OzQGF)

12 Appropriate

Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2020 10:20 AM (wiXsO)

13
Not great art. Not something I would hang on my wall.

But -

This is exactly what I'd like to see hanging on the wall, in prominent display whenever I enter a gov't building or post office.

A several other similar paintings.

Instead of the usual lame-ass and poorly composed abstract "art" which they usually hang.l

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (z0XD8)

14 God bless those who have given their all in service
to this great nation in the name of liberty. We will never forget while
we still draw breath.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 10:18 AM (Fc5rx)



Amen. Thinking of 5 today. 4 from Iraq. 1 from Afghanistan. God be with their families.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (lwiT4)

15 God Bless America and those who gave everything for it.

Posted by: Czech Chick at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (haWye)

16 Can you even imagine the soyboys of today taking up arms and fighting for our country?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 25, 2020 10:20 AM (OzQGF)

There are plenty who do

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (85Gof)

17 Rockwell!

Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican War; Civil War, World War One, WW Two.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (rpbg1)

18 Thank you CBD. This is perfect for today. For all who have served, thank you. For those who have lost loved ones in service, thank you. Your sacrifices are not ignored or forgotten. There are still great Americans among us.

Posted by: Moki at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (mFoNl)

19 Who can name every conflict in the above painting. Exclude top and bottom (Revolution and WWI). 1/2 credit for Civil War. Go !

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 10:22 AM (zr5Kq)

20 omg! It's a PARADE of snipers!

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 10:22 AM (cHbIE)

21 As the Yorkshireman said, "Nowt to do today."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:22 AM (rpbg1)

22 Am I evil for thinking about the day Miooch and Barack said all this for a flag?

Posted by: Chillin the most at May 25, 2020 10:22 AM (lonOK)

23 Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican War; Civil War, World War One, WW Two.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (rpbg1)

You answered my question before I asked it.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at May 25, 2020 10:22 AM (Uu+Jp)

24 I know a mother who got the knock on her door one cold December morning. I know another mother who got the news and fainted.

Posted by: grammie winger at May 25, 2020 10:23 AM (lwiT4)

25 Norman Rockwell is a National Treasure. I cannot begin to understand the criticism of his works.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 10:23 AM (2DOZq)

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11 Great pic, CBD. Can you even imagine the soyboys of today taking up arms and fighting for our country?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 25, 2020 10:20 AM (OzQGF)


They'll fight only on the edges and vertices of intersectionality in their SJW world. The real world, not so much.

Nice Rockwell offering appropriate for this day.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 10:23 AM (pNxlR)

27 What's wrong with the GI in the forground?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 25, 2020 10:24 AM (ABuva)

28 An overlooked war was our war against the Barbary pirates which began about 1800. It was the beginning of a proper Navy and some of the American grit displayed by some of the combatants is awesome.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 25, 2020 10:24 AM (VNfwt)

29 There are plenty who do
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (85Gof)

Oh yes. There are some good young men.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 25, 2020 10:24 AM (OzQGF)

30 Muldoon, thank you. What an amazing piece of history, made even more precious because it/s your family history.

Posted by: Moki at May 25, 2020 10:24 AM (mFoNl)

31 Disregard I.pulled a fumducker.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 25, 2020 10:24 AM (ABuva)

32 Gee, when I posted the war that each soldier came from, I hadn't even noticed the years that Rockwell put alongside each. I was guessing based on the look of the uniform (what I know of it) for each major war the U.S. had been in up to 1945.

I forgot the Spanish-American War -- the guy who looks like he's wearing a short-brimmed Western hat, or a fedora done in cavalry style.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:25 AM (rpbg1)

33
You answered my question before I asked it.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at May 25, 2020 10:22 AM (Uu+Jp


You neglected to mention the Spanish-American War (the soldier with the over-the-shoukder bedroll).

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 10:25 AM (pNxlR)

34 Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican War; Civil War, World War One, WW Two.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (rpbg1)



Missed the Spanish-American War,

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2020 10:25 AM (z0XD8)

35 Norman Rockwell did Pollock better than Pollock.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 10:25 AM (2DOZq)

36
Oh yes. There are some good young men.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 25, 2020 10:24 AM (OzQGF)

And women.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 10:25 AM (85Gof)

37 26
11 Great pic, CBD. Can you even imagine the soyboys of today taking up arms and fighting for our country?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 25, 2020 10:20 AM (OzQGF)

They'll fight only on the edges and vertices of intersectionality in their SJW world. The real world, not so much.

Nice Rockwell offering appropriate for this day.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 10:23 AM (pNxlR)

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I watched a making of documentary of Alexander made by Oliver Stone's son, Sean.

Apparently, Sean wanted to enlist after 9/11 but Oliver talked him out of it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:25 AM (LvTSG)

38 Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican War; Civil War, World War One, WW Two.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I think you might have missed what I assume is the Spanish American war soldier.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 25, 2020 10:25 AM (VNfwt)

39 No unit patch?

Posted by: RI Red at May 25, 2020 10:25 AM (ebxKR)

40 What an appropriate painting for today. Thanks, CBD. No need for my usual half-assed analysis on this one. Hell, looks like Rockwell even showed the guns correctly or darn near.

Posted by: JTB at May 25, 2020 10:25 AM (7EjX1)

41 I forgot the Spanish-American War -- the guy who looks like he's wearing a short-brimmed Western hat, or a fedora done in cavalry style.




Looks like Ted Roosevelt.

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 10:26 AM (zr5Kq)

42 Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican War; Civil War, World War One, WW Two.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (rpbg1)

You answered my question before I asked it.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at May 25, 2020


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Yeah, but as I said above, I left out the Spanish-American War (189. I knew it had to be that; I just neglected to type it until I'd hit "Post."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:27 AM (rpbg1)

43 There are plenty who do
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (85Gof)

Oh yes. There are some good young men.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 25, 2020 10:24 AM (OzQGF)
**********
And then, there are those who join Antifa.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2020 10:27 AM (wiXsO)

44
27 What's wrong with the GI in the forground?
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 25, 2020 10:24 AM (ABuva)


Do not know, but his midsection appears to be a real muddle to the point that it looks like the painting is damaged.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 10:27 AM (pNxlR)

45 I assume everyone noticed the dates.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 10:28 AM (2DOZq)

46 Right shouldah...HAHMS!

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 25, 2020 10:29 AM (lbPuN)

47 Do not know, but his midsection appears to be a real muddle to the point that it looks like the painting is damaged.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020


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Looks almost as if smoke is coming out of his stomach. Since Rockwell would never had painted something like that, I assume it's damage.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:29 AM (rpbg1)

48 wonderful

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 25, 2020 10:29 AM (G546f)

49 I assume everyone noticed the dates.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020


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Not until after I'd posted the list of conflicts.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:29 AM (rpbg1)

50 "Do not know, but his midsection appears to be a real muddle to the point that it looks like the painting is damaged."

Looks almost to be a wader of some type. Unsnapped and partially open well above the waist.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 25, 2020 10:30 AM (3D/fK)

51 Ok reboot phone to escape banned IP...

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 10:30 AM (nQHrn)

52 Watching the wreath-laying ceremony at Arlington Cematary right now. Next year, I want to be there in person.

Posted by: Moki at May 25, 2020 10:30 AM (mFoNl)

53 t's May 25 and the big breakout is finally under way. And I don't mean
the 2020 coronavirus lockdown, I mean the beachhead at Anzio in 1944.
Let's take a peek inside my dad's journal. This was the day American
forces from the Monte Cassino front linked up with the right flank of
the beachhead forces. And the race toward Rome was on! And my dad got
to fly over the battlefield in the Stinson L-4 observer plane.

God bless those who have given their all in service
to this great nation in the name of liberty. We will never forget while
we still draw breath.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 10:18 AM (Fc5rx)


My Dad was in those forces from the Monte Cassino.

Posted by: Javems at May 25, 2020 10:30 AM (ofIwF)

54 I forgot the Spanish-American War -- the guy who looks like he's wearing a short-brimmed Western hat, or a fedora done in cavalry style.

Looks like Ted Roosevelt.
Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020


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No doubt modeled on the younger TR.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:30 AM (rpbg1)

55 'MERICA!

Posted by: FIIGMO at May 25, 2020 10:31 AM (Qf08A)

56 Watching our President at the Tomb of the Unknown.

Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2020 10:32 AM (sNpqr)

57 Success! For the moment.

Rockwell is always a favorite. Good choice, CBD.

As far as the half figure in the foreground, my guess is that Rockwell was trying to say all of the men were equal- and due equal respect.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 10:32 AM (nQHrn)

58 "25 Norman Rockwell is a National Treasure. I cannot begin to understand the criticism of his works.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 10:23 AM (2DOZq) "



He loved America.
The sin for which there is no forgiveness.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 25, 2020 10:32 AM (cqteU)

59 Why would Rockwell not have include a soldier from the Confederate army? I'm not trying to start a fight l

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at May 25, 2020 10:32 AM (Uu+Jp)

60 I was first with a sniper joke. I'll leave "no trees" for someone else.

Rockwell was so talented and versatile. Powerful.

Thanks, Muldoon, for your war diary snippets.

Too overwhelmed, dumbfounded, for Memorial Day.

We have been so mightily blessed.

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 10:33 AM (cHbIE)

61 He also painted things that were representational. That is also a sin these days.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 10:34 AM (nQHrn)

62 The war of 1812, I remember it well, man. I led my troops up San Juan Hill and Hitler was history after I surrounded the bunker. That just me, man. All guts and glory. Vote Biden 2020.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 25, 2020 10:34 AM (UF8gN)

63 Heading to a memorial service of the kid's buddy who died in Afghanistan last week. We keep losing our military guys while the soyboy scourge is spreading. Sucks.

Posted by: NCKate at May 25, 2020 10:34 AM (6LlJs)

64 I look at this Rockwell and the detail is amazing.

The amount of research Mr. Rockwell had would have had to do to get uniforms, kit and rifle correct is amazing.

But, he's just American Kitsch, and, therefore, unworthy of serious consideration as an artist.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 10:34 AM (WEBkv)

65 The President is swaying a tad. I hope he does not lock his knees.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 10:35 AM (85Gof)

66 Watching our President at the Tomb of the Unknown.
Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2020 10:32 AM (sNpqr)

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President Hillary would have been using it to hold herself up.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 25, 2020 10:35 AM (kVr0X)

67 I think you are seeing the Mills belt pockets on the WWI doughboy in front of the WWII soldier's belly

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2020 10:36 AM (WyVLE)

68 Dogs playing poker on velvet is kitsch- Rockwell is America.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 10:36 AM (nQHrn)

69 0 Muldoon, thank you. What an amazing piece of history, made even more precious because it/s your family history.
Posted by: Moki


********

I'm honored to have a place to share it with people that I know will appreciate it.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 10:36 AM (Fc5rx)

70 56 Watching our President at the Tomb of the Unknown.
Posted by: Infidel

It is refreshing to see a President and First Lady who care about American military personnel.

Posted by: Moki at May 25, 2020 10:37 AM (mFoNl)

71 SpanAm war hat was called a "slouch hat"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2020 10:37 AM (WyVLE)

72
I just noticed Rockwell's different techniques for portraying their headgear. The two World Wars' soldiers helmets were done in a different style (And one that I like) than those for the soft headgear of all the previous men. The metal helmets gave a texture to them reminiscent of a stage through which you pass when you are hammering sheet metal into a concave shape, just prior to beginning to use a planishing hammer in order to obtain a more polished and reflective surface on your piece.

It is interesting, too, how he barely worked any of the Revolutionary War soldier's headgear into this picture.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 10:37 AM (pNxlR)

73 God bless those who have served, those who gave everything while serving and those still in service.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 10:37 AM (WEBkv)

74 The local news is pointing out that the national cemeteries here are closed to large groups placing flags on veterans graves. Its just shameful.

We owe so much to those guys and gals. The only way we can ever begin to repay them is to ensure the United States remains free from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at May 25, 2020 10:38 AM (NZbXf)

75 Why would Rockwell not have include a soldier from the Confederate army? I'm not trying to start a fight l
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at May 25, 2020 10:32 AM (Uu+Jp)



When all is said and done, the Confederates were fighting to maintain slavery.

Not an American value.

Plus, I'm guessing here, but when this was painted, there were probably still veterans of the Civil War alive.

The Union soldiers fought for the United States. The Confederates did not. It would've been seen as disrespectful to include them among those who fought for America.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2020 10:38 AM (z0XD8)

76 Johnny Doughboy leading the charge.

Posted by: Fritz at May 25, 2020 10:38 AM (95j/9)

77 Good point, Aetius.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 25, 2020 10:39 AM (cqteU)

78 War of 1776, War of 1812, War of 1846, War of 1861, War of 1898, War of 1918 and War of 1941.

What do I win?

Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 10:39 AM (Fc5rx)

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49 I assume everyone noticed the dates.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020


Do you.mind if we dance with them?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 10:39 AM (pNxlR)

80 Why would Rockwell not have include a soldier from the Confederate army? I'm not trying to start a fight l
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at May 25, 2020 10:32 AM (Uu+Jp)


He was a Yankee ?

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 10:40 AM (zr5Kq)

81 is there a date for the WW2 soldier? I don't see it...

also, beautiful calligraphy btw

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 25, 2020 10:40 AM (G546f)

82 I assume everyone noticed the dates.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020



I don't give a fig about them.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2020 10:40 AM (z0XD8)

83 Anyone else find Napoleonic era hats kind of funny?

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 10:41 AM (nQHrn)

84
78 War of 1776, War of 1812, War of 1846, War of 1861, War of 1898, War of 1918 and War of 1941.

What do I win?
Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 10:39 AM (Fc5rx)


***************
Best in Show
***************
Most Egregious
Use of the Phrase
"War of ... "
***************

** golf clap **

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 10:42 AM (pNxlR)

85 Oh, they have dates next to them. That makes it easier to figure out the third guy.

I'm glad we left the Nutcracker Suite era of the early 1800's.

Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2020 10:42 AM (XHrkn)

86 83 Anyone else find Napoleonic era hats kind of funny?
Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 10:41 AM (nQHrn)

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I think you mean fantastic and due for a comeback.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:42 AM (LvTSG)

87 I assume everyone noticed the dates.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020

I don't give a fig about them.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2020


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Painting this must have been a plum assignment.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:42 AM (rpbg1)

88 >>> What do I win?

A used American history textbook.

Posted by: fluffy at May 25, 2020 10:43 AM (FgJKq)

89 That WWI helmet looks vaguely like a straw hat.

+1 for the Iron Boater.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2020 10:43 AM (z0XD8)

90 87 I assume everyone noticed the dates.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020

I don't give a fig about them.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2020

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Painting this must have been a plum assignment.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:42 AM (rpbg1)

It was the apple of his eye.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 10:43 AM (NWiLs)

91
Why 1846 Was Cool

Epaulets

That is all.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 10:43 AM (pNxlR)

92 17 Rockwell!

Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Mexican War; Civil War, World War One, WW Two.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:21 AM (rpbg1)

The lowest blue uniformed soldier, visible between the WWI and WWII rifles, is from the Spanish War.

Posted by: Fox 2! at May 25, 2020 10:43 AM (qyH+l)

93 I would be tempting the barrel to try to copy and paste on this phone. *golfclap* for Krebs V

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 10:44 AM (nQHrn)

94 I think you mean fantastic and due for a comeback.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:42 AM (LvTSG)

shakos add a certain distinction, and several inches,always important

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 25, 2020 10:44 AM (G546f)

95 The local news is pointing out that the national cemeteries here are
closed to large groups placing flags on veterans graves. Its just
shameful.


I went yesterday, flags in hand, to decorate my Pop's resting place. He served in the European Theater, WWII. I had heard that there would be no remembrances this year but thankfully some group (probably the VFW) had all of the veterans graves flagged.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 25, 2020 10:44 AM (EgshT)

96 94 and several inches,always important
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 25, 2020 10:44 AM (G546f)

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That's what she said.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:44 AM (LvTSG)

97 81
is there a date for the WW2 soldier? I don't see it...



also, beautiful calligraphy btw

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 25, 2020 10:40 AM (G546f)


It was going on at the time is all I can think of.

Posted by: Javems at May 25, 2020 10:45 AM (ofIwF)

98 OMG... NO MASKS!!!

Posted by: Dumbtard at May 25, 2020 10:46 AM (buTO7)

99 I think you mean fantastic and due for a comeback.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:42 AM (LvTSG)

shakos add a certain distinction, and several inches,always important
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 25, 2020 10:44 AM (G546f)
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Nelson wore a bigger hat than Napoleon.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 25, 2020 10:46 AM (4o2K3)

100 How's about the tone deafness of the NYTs vis a vis our Veterans. I mean, according to them, us Veterans are a bunch of white supremacists and Memorial Day is a White supremacist holiday.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 25, 2020 10:46 AM (/VzmO)

101 Kilroy: I assume everyone noticed the dates.

naturalfake: I don't give a fig about them.

Wolfus: Painting this must have been a plum assignment.

Insomniac: It was the apple of his eye.

This fruity punning on a somber day and thread. Orange y'all ashamed?

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 10:47 AM (cHbIE)

102 So, the Alien and Sedition Acts...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:47 AM (LvTSG)

103 97 81
is there a date for the WW2 soldier? I don't see it...
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I'm thinking the date was the present at the time.

Posted by: Menack at May 25, 2020 10:47 AM (buTO7)

104 How's about the tone deafness of the NYTs vis a vis our Veterans. I mean, according to them, us Veterans are a bunch of white supremacists and Memorial Day is a White supremacist holiday.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 25, 2020 10:46 AM (/VzmO)
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When all you have is a hammer...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 25, 2020 10:47 AM (4o2K3)

105 Shakos, when the walls fell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 10:47 AM (nQHrn)

106 is there a date for the WW2 soldier? I don't see it...

also, beautiful calligraphy btw
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 25, 2020


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If Rockwell painted this during the war, nobody knew the end date. The dates, I notice, are a mix, usually the start of the conflict (though 1918 is an exception), so he could have put 1941.

On the other hand, what if he painted this prior to 12/7/41, and he intended the last soldier to be "This is Today's American Soldier"?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:48 AM (rpbg1)

107 101 Kilroy: I assume everyone noticed the dates.

naturalfake: I don't give a fig about them.

Wolfus: Painting this must have been a plum assignment.

Insomniac: It was the apple of his eye.

This fruity punning on a somber day and thread. Orange y'all ashamed?
Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 10:47 AM (cHbIE)

Well ain't you a peach.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 10:48 AM (NWiLs)

108 CNN can't give up the story of Trump golfing during this period of Pandemic and honoring our men in uniform.

Posted by: Colin at May 25, 2020 10:48 AM (UF8gN)

109 But, he's just American Kitsch, and, therefore, unworthy of serious consideration as an artist.
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He was a hack.

Posted by: Jackson Pollack at May 25, 2020 10:48 AM (GBHAb)

110

Great painting.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2020 10:48 AM (lCCR+)

111 The Norman Rockwell museum is about 15 minutes from my house, a great perk for this area.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 25, 2020 10:48 AM (UUUON)

112 Kilroy: I assume everyone noticed the dates.

naturalfake: I don't give a fig about them.

Wolfus: Painting this must have been a plum assignment.

Insomniac: It was the apple of his eye.

This fruity punning on a somber day and thread. Orange y'all ashamed?
Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020


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Lemon try to do better.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:49 AM (rpbg1)

113 I forgot the Spanish-American War -- the guy who looks like he's wearing a short-brimmed Western hat, or a fedora done in cavalry style.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:25 AM (rpbg1)


Great-Grandfather Poppins fought in the Navy during the Spanish-American War. I have a leather booklet with his "Continuous Service Certificate" which, sadly, is rather illegible because of age. The ships I can tell he served on were the Solace, Oregon, USS Villalobos, Independence and finally Columbia, with the notation "less than a month on board" before he was discharged in NY on March 4, 1901.

I wonder if there's a way to pull up those ships' complements online to find his name.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2020 10:49 AM (2JVJo)

114 World War II pin-up art by Al Buell

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ychgl7my

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 10:49 AM (PP3gl)

115 vmom: is there a date for the WW2 soldier? I don't see it...

Javems: It was going on at the time is all I can think of.

Wonder when this is from. I figured that was the 48-star flag, but there weren't enough for me to gauge.

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 10:50 AM (cHbIE)

116 Kilroy: I assume everyone noticed the dates.

naturalfake: I don't give a fig about them.

Wolfus: Painting this must have been a plum assignment.

Insomniac: It was the apple of his eye.

This fruity punning on a somber day and thread. Orange y'all ashamed?
Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 10:47 AM (cHbIE)

Well ain't you a peach.
Posted by: Insomniac
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It's all sour grapes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2020 10:50 AM (GBHAb)

117

This fruity punning on a somber day and thread. Orange y'all ashamed?
Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 10:47 AM (cHbIE)

Fruited plains and all that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 10:50 AM (nQHrn)

118 Anyone else find Napoleonic era hats kind of funny?
Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 10:41 AM (nQHrn)


During Hugo Chavez' funeral they had Presidential guards in Venezuelan class A uniforms stationed at the various points in the cathedral, and it is basically the Napoleonic Infantry uniform, from the Shako, to the webbing, to the frogged tunic, and high boots, carrying some sort of Mauser rifle, with a knock off of the US 1941 mess kit strapped in at the small of the back.

(The Colombian Presidential guard, I think, wear pickelhaubes and carry Galils, so it could be worse)

Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2020 10:51 AM (WyVLE)

119 This is called "Americans at War," and is dated 1942; so he could have put 1941 as the date for the last soldier. But leaving it as the current "today's American soldier" works too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:51 AM (rpbg1)

120 And yes, I did some writing. Stream-of-consciousness monologues for villain and villainess. Tomorrow will be for continuing the story on.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2020 10:51 AM (2JVJo)

121 Wonder when this is from. I figured that was the 48-star flag, but there weren't enough for me to gauge.



1943

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 10:51 AM (zr5Kq)

Posted by: Colin at May 25, 2020 10:51 AM (UF8gN)

123

Lemon try to do better.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I think its grape art

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 25, 2020 10:52 AM (G546f)

124 And also all our military bases in the south are named after former slave holders...blah blah blah. They want to change the names of the bases. Next up, all those towns and cities, ie. Jackson,MS, Leesburg in Ga, Fl and VA.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 25, 2020 10:52 AM (/VzmO)

125 120 And yes, I did some writing. Stream-of-consciousness monologues for villain and villainess. Tomorrow will be for continuing the story on.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2020 10:51 AM (2JVJo)

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If you want to share the draft when you're done, you know I'm happy to read it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:52 AM (LvTSG)

126 Rockwell and his northern kin seemed to view on the soldier of the Union Army as patriotic.
And don't fucking start with me.

Posted by: Emperor of Underworld. Or Underwear. I forget. at May 25, 2020 10:52 AM (AsjQP)

127 This is called "Americans at War," and is dated 1942; so he could have put 1941 as the date for the last soldier. But leaving it as the current "today's American soldier" works too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:51 AM (rpbg1)


I thought it was called "To Make Men Free" ?

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 10:53 AM (zr5Kq)

128 Someone who is an artist needs to update that painting.

Add Korea, Vietnam, Gulf Wars 1-2, and the current War on Terror.

Where do we get such men........

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2020 10:53 AM (Z+IKu)

129 This is the first Memorial Day that I'm not feeling all that patriotic. In fact, I really don't have much love left for a huge swath of "my country", and find it difficult to believe why anyone would voluntarily enlist to protect so many filthy cowards I'm constantly forced to work/associate with. Where there equally despicable citizens calling the US home in 1941? Of course. But their percentages amounted to a radical minority, primarily confined to the outer corners of universities and artist colonies. Now, they represent the majority in at least 1/3 of our 50 states, and nearly 40% of the population as a whole. So no, the sacrifice of so many great young men is no longer worth it. Not by a long shot.

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 25, 2020 10:53 AM (6B+ER)

130 118
Anyone else find Napoleonic era hats kind of funny?
Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 10:41 AM (nQHrn)

During
Hugo Chavez' funeral they had Presidential guards in Venezuelan class A
uniforms stationed at the various points in the cathedral, and it is
basically the Napoleonic Infantry uniform, from the Shako, to the
webbing, to the frogged tunic, and high boots, carrying some sort of
Mauser rifle, with a knock off of the US 1941 mess kit strapped in at
the small of the back.

(The Colombian Presidential guard, I think, wear pickelhaubes and carry Galils, so it could be worse)


Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2020 10:51 AM (WyVLE)


Pffft

Posted by: Paypal Swiss guard at May 25, 2020 10:53 AM (ofIwF)

131 Kilroy: I assume everyone noticed the dates.

naturalfake: I don't give a fig about them.

Wolfus: Painting this must have been a plum assignment.

Insomniac: It was the apple of his eye.

This fruity punning on a somber day and thread. Orange y'all ashamed?
Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 10:47 AM (cHbIE)

Well ain't you a peach.
Posted by: Insomniac
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It's all sour grapes.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.



Apple! Apple!

Posted by: CNN at May 25, 2020 10:53 AM (786Ro)

132 During Hugo Chavez' funeral they had Presidential guards in Venezuelan class A uniforms stationed at the various points in the cathedral, and it is basically the Napoleonic Infantry uniform, from the Shako, to the webbing, to the frogged tunic, and high boots, carrying some sort of Mauser rifle, with a knock off of the US 1941 mess kit strapped in at the small of the back.

(The Colombian Presidential guard, I think, wear pickelhaubes and carry Galils, so it could be worse)
Posted by: Kindltot

I bet they all look ridiculous

Posted by: Vatican Swiss Army Guard at May 25, 2020 10:54 AM (G546f)

133 That is probably a 48 star flag because the stars in the blue field are not staggered like they are in a 50 star flag.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 10:54 AM (PP3gl)

134 Well, it is a decent day for drone flying today. No wind, overcast but not horrible, and I have enough batteries for 90 minutes of air time.

Bye.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, stupid and purposely ignorant. at May 25, 2020 10:54 AM (4k/Uz)

135 This is called "Americans at War," and is dated 1942; so he could have put 1941 as the date for the last soldier. But leaving it as the current "today's American soldier" works too.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:51 AM (rpbg1)


I thought it was called "To Make Men Free" ?
Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020


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I searched for "Norman Rockwell American soldiers," and found a link that gave "Americans at War." I see the title you have is also out there in a link to a print you can buy.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:55 AM (rpbg1)

136 Love the painting.
Mr. NEC asked me this morning why I was so perturbed about the Memorial Day special PBS ran last evening, it was a rerun from last year. Asked him what Memorial Day was for, he said it was to honor those that had fallen. And that's why I was perturbed. It also honored veterans and wounded warriors which are both noble causes but not what we are supposed to do on this holiday.
Veteran's Day is what that's for.
So many traditions and holidays that have been adulterated.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 25, 2020 10:55 AM (JVgnl)

137 That Rockwell poster is framed in my study.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at May 25, 2020 10:55 AM (j4zcI)

138 OK, I decided to look up the USS Solace. She was a hospital ship commanded by Commodore Andrew Dunlap, whose signature is on Great-Grandfather's papers.

Here she is:

https://tinyurl.com/y9qj2wlj

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2020 10:55 AM (2JVJo)

139 In between hiring his own prosecutors and his own defense attorney, Judge Sullivan got Jim Comey a $100k-gig for a 12-minute speech at Howard University.

They would have paid him more if it was shorter.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2020 10:55 AM (Ndje9)

140 I bet they all look ridiculous
Posted by: Vatican Swiss Army Guard at May 25, 2020 10:54 AM (G546f)
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Yep

Posted by: guy wearing shorts, wife beater and flip flops
while commenting at DU
at May 25, 2020 10:56 AM (WEBkv)

141 is there a date for the WW2 soldier? I don't see it...

I found a bigger version which does have a date for the WWII soldier:

https://bit.ly/2XqPDZY

Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2020 10:56 AM (8DRUP)

142 139 In between hiring his own prosecutors and his own defense attorney, Judge Sullivan got Jim Comey a $100k-gig for a 12-minute speech at Howard University.

They would have paid him more if it was shorter.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives

I get paid by the inch

Posted by: Ron Jeremy at May 25, 2020 10:56 AM (FZYNt)

143
Where are the Grievance Studies professors in this painting? The LGBTQ activists? The community organizers? The public intellectuals? The award-winning journalists?

Not art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2020 10:56 AM (mht8P)

144 If you want to share the draft when you're done, you know I'm happy to read it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:52 AM (LvTSG)


I plan to, thank you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2020 10:56 AM (2JVJo)

145 Someone who is an artist needs to update that painting.



Add Korea, Vietnam, Gulf Wars 1-2, and the current War on Terror.



Where do we get such men........



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2020 10:53 AM (Z+IKu)


Any update will be full of "diversity" lots and lots of "diversity".

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 25, 2020 10:56 AM (lCCR+)

146 so,speaking ofvthe calligraphy, how many of you write "1" with the little tail on top?
or do you just write a straight vertical line?

and does your "7" have a mid cross bar?

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 10:57 AM (G546f)

147 I am past the time of realistically expecting anyone to expect me to take up arms.
But for a number of years I've been saddened to think how my view of the subject has changed.
I still remember when turning 18 going to the Post Office and registering for Selective Service, thinking that if Uncle Sam ever wrote me back, I'd be there on the dot.
More recently I've viewed the flag something along the lines of a successor entity that still retains the branding of the original, but in fact is under new management.

If I were, theoretically, called to do my duty today, I think I would do so more in the service of my comrades, and to defend those people and those parts of the country still true to being called "Americans" -- but not with the same sense of belonging to one, indivisible United States under a common flag and purpose as I would have had when 18.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at May 25, 2020 10:57 AM (lcQJG)

148 Posted by: PacosMojo at May 25, 2020 10:53 AM (6B+ER)

I hate to say it, but I agree with you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2020 10:57 AM (2JVJo)

149 Greek Presidential Guard uniforms...that is all

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 10:57 AM (zr5Kq)

150 That is probably a 48 star flag because the stars in the blue field are not staggered like they are in a 50 star flag.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Well, 1942, so...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2020 10:57 AM (bPH26)

151 Someone who is an artist needs to update that painting.

Add Korea, Vietnam, Gulf Wars 1-2, and the current War on Terror.

Where do we get such men........
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2020


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There are some representational artists, guys like Michael Whelan, who illustrated book jackets in the '80s like Heinlein's Friday: https://tinyurl.com/yb6vkdey

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 10:58 AM (rpbg1)

152 144 If you want to share the draft when you're done, you know I'm happy to read it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:52 AM (LvTSG)

I plan to, thank you.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2020 10:56 AM (2JVJo)

==========

You inspire me to write myself. I have become lax with the baby and the new house. I gotta get back into it.

Working from home hurts too. I had a system in the office that I can't really replicate here.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:58 AM (LvTSG)

153 They made pompoms out of epaulets.

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 10:58 AM (zr5Kq)

154 OR, does your " 1" have a bottom horizontal bar?

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 10:58 AM (G546f)

155 and does your "7" have a mid cross bar?
Posted by: vmom
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Only commies use the little cross bar.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2020 10:59 AM (bPH26)

156
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 10:57 AM (G546f)
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I have to put the tail on the 1 so as to distinguish between 1 and l when I print.

I also put a slash through the zero to distinguish it from an upper case O.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 10:59 AM (WEBkv)

157 Waiting for Ace's eventual hot thread oh Goldberg calling Kayleigh McEnany "grotesque."

Didn't the Nevertrumper cucksquad fredocons base their entire public hatefest on Trump saying mean things when he was attacked and was thus "unprincipled?"

Wasn't their core "principle" they hung their omegamale hats on that one should never say mean things to womyn or Rosie?



Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 25, 2020 10:59 AM (rEHTZ)

158 It also honored veterans and wounded warriors which are both noble causes but not what we are supposed to do on this holiday.
Veteran's Day is what that's for.
So many traditions and holidays that have been adulterated.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at May 25, 2020 10:55 AM (JVgnl)


Memorial Day is to honor those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our country. Veterans Day is to honor everyone who served, living or dead.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 25, 2020 10:59 AM (/VzmO)

159 >"But, he's just American Kitsch, and, therefore, unworthy of serious consideration as an artist."

Norman Rockwell's most famous work, "Saying Grace", sold at auction at Christie's for over $46 million dollars in 2014.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at May 25, 2020 11:00 AM (NJTkf)

160
so,speaking ofvthe calligraphy, how many of you write "1" with the little tail on top?
or do you just write a straight vertical line?

and does your "7" have a mid cross bar?

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 10:57 AM (G546f)


Do you use commas instead of periods as decimal marks?

Do you use the metric system instead of the English?

Are you an American or a European loser?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2020 11:00 AM (mht8P)

161 Michael Whelan painted some of my favorite fantasy book covers
the ones for Melanie Rawn's dragon series... loved them

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:00 AM (G546f)

162 Love today's picture, CBD. Thank you and God bless to those who made the ultimate sacrifice for our great country.

Thank you, Muldoon, for the excerpts from your dad's diary.

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at May 25, 2020 11:00 AM (XXNQ+)

163 Wolfus: This is called "Americans at War," and is dated 1942...

Ah, thanks. Good old Encyclopedia Hordennica. Faster than DuckDuckGo, more reliable than Wikipedia. (Okay, that latter one was a low bar.)

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:00 AM (cHbIE)

164 Some who gave that last full measure

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8fjjc8f

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 11:01 AM (PP3gl)

165 Are you an American or a European loser?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2020 11:00 AM (mht8P)
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I'm an American winner, darn it!

And I have the participation trophy to prove it!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:01 AM (WEBkv)

166 Are you an American or a European loser?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2020 11:00 AM (mht8P)

yeah, how did the number system shift so much in the colonies?

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:01 AM (G546f)

167
You inspire me to write myself. I have become lax with the baby and the new house. I gotta get back into it.

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Top 10 commenters:
1 [664 comments] 'TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower' [93.21 posts/day]

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From where I sit, you are writing just fine.

Know what you mean about working from home. It is quite an adjustment.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, stupid and purposely ignorant. at May 25, 2020 11:01 AM (4k/Uz)

168 You inspire me to write myself. I have become lax with the baby and the new house. I gotta get back into it.

Working from home hurts too. I had a system in the office that I can't really replicate here.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 10:58 AM (LvTSG)


This is a "proto-draft," meaning that when I get to the end, I have to go back to the first half already written and join it up to what I have now to make it a full book. Then there needs to be a lot of polishing and "set dressing" before I sent it out for thoughts. You probably won't see it until Thanksgiving or so.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2020 11:01 AM (2JVJo)

169 Michael Whelan painted some of my favorite fantasy book covers
the ones for Melanie Rawn's dragon series... loved them
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020


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He had the talent, and may still; I don't know if he's alive. Whether he'd *want* to paint something so patriotic would depend on his politics.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:02 AM (rpbg1)

170 and does your "7" have a mid cross bar?

Mine does, but it only got it after living in Germany for a while. So does my z, but I got that from my high school math teacher. My 1 doesn't have a little tail.

Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2020 11:03 AM (OFJlJ)

171 I'll share one other little bit of info from my dad's WWII journal. From the time he landed in North Africa in late 1943, through the Italian campaign and later the landings in southern France my dad made almost daily entries in a conversational style until Jan 31, 1945. After that there were only two additional entries before the journal abruptly cut off altogether, one covering a one week span and one covering a six week span.

The date may be purely coincidental, but Auschwitz was liberated by the Russians on January 27th. Given a few days for the horror at Auschwitz to filter through High Command and down to VI Corps HQ I have often wondered if that news and other confirmation of the rumors of the Holocaust changed my dad's viewpoint from that of a young artillery officer on a grand adventure to something much darker. He never spoke of it with me in later years.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 11:03 AM (Fc5rx)

172 MP4, I am looking forward to seeing your book out when it is ready.

If this sounds like some kind of pressure please know this is the opposite of my intention.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, stupid and purposely ignorant. at May 25, 2020 11:03 AM (4k/Uz)

173 Arkansas Gov: "We Have To Manage the Risk" With Chinese COVID-19, Like "Wearing a Seatbelt" While Driving the Car Is Parked In the Economy Garage With the Engine Running

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2020 11:03 AM (+y/Ru)

174 My 1 doesn't have a little tail.
Posted by: t-bird

I could go for a little tail right about now

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 25, 2020 11:03 AM (FZYNt)

175 Need your fix of Michael Whelan?

https://www.michaelwhelan.com/

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 11:04 AM (PP3gl)

176 when commenters in the (low) 300s hit the leaderboard it means that y'all need to comment more and often...

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM (zr5Kq)

177 Anna Puma: That is probably a 48 star flag because the stars in the blue field are not staggered like they are in a 50 star flag.

That's sorta what I guessed. You've a more discerning eye than mine. (Again, a low bar, though.)

By fifty stars, you'd get Korea added in.

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM (cHbIE)

178 Only commies use the little cross bar.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2020 10:59 AM (bPH26)

And people who have


Learned to code

Using the FORTRAN coding sheets.

Posted by: Fox 2! at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM (qyH+l)

179 ever notice how 2 and 5 are basically inverted mirror images?

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM (G546f)

180 Kilroy: I assume everyone noticed the dates.

naturalfake: I don't give a fig about them.

Wolfus: Painting this must have been a plum assignment.

Insomniac: It was the apple of his eye.

This fruity punning on a somber day and thread. Orange y'all ashamed?
Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 10:47 AM (cHbIE)

Well ain't you a peach.
Posted by: Insomniac

It's all sour grapes.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
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Don't go bananas.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM (kp35W)

181 so,speaking ofvthe calligraphy, how many of you write "1" with the little tail on top?

or do you just write a straight vertical line?


and does your "7" have a mid cross bar?
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 10:57 AM (G546f)


sometimes I put that initial tail on the number one, I always put a cross bar on the 7 for clarity, and when I am being really formal I put a curled tail on the 9.


Posted by: Kindltot at May 25, 2020 11:06 AM (WyVLE)

182 The little town I grew up in (600 soles) always had a great parade on Memorial Day or Decoration Day as some called it.
Korean, Vietnam and even some WW 2 (riding in cars). I played in the high school band and remember taps at the local cemetery. Nothing this year, but the American Legion is having a small remembrance at the local memorial in the center of town. With impatient motorists being held up on the main street, mad because they are being held up.

Posted by: Colin at May 25, 2020 11:06 AM (UF8gN)

183 I'm guessing the Spanish American war soldier (in blue , right before the WWI soldier) is carrying a "Krag" rifle (Springfield model 1896) . I've been working my way backwards through time in US armaments and have yet to add a Krag to the collection.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at May 25, 2020 11:06 AM (cCxiu)

184 @171 Interesting theory, Muldoon.

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:06 AM (zr5Kq)

185 When we made Korea a state, that's when things went south.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 25, 2020 11:07 AM (H5knJ)

186 Thank you to America's true heros, and may they rest in peace. We will live up to your standard.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, live from Pandemia at May 25, 2020 11:07 AM (NVYyb)

187 Greek Presidential Guard uniforms...that is all

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 10:57 AM


I'm kinda digging their alternate Dread Pirate Roberts uniform.

https://tinyurl.com/yanfvfp9

Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode) at May 25, 2020 11:07 AM (OMsf+)

188
By fifty stars, you'd get Korea added in.

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM (cHbIE)


Korea was 50-53. Alaska and Hawaii weren't states until later in the decade.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2020 11:07 AM (mht8P)

189 Where Eagles Dare >>> The Great Escape

Posted by: REDACTED at May 25, 2020 11:07 AM (UUUON)

190 when commenters in the (low) 300s hit the leaderboard it means that y'all need to comment more and often...
Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM (zr5Kq)
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I made the wall of shame because everyone else was slacking?

I feel a bit better, thanks.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (WEBkv)

191 Today's Special Guest Karen is a "Death Historian" (how much does that pay?) who hits the bullet points, completely misses the point that her beloved lockdowns killed all those old folks, and takes not-so-subtle shots at the deplorables with their crazy summertime and shit. Virtue well signaled, Karen!

Leah Richier
@CallMeRichier

As a death historian, I feel like I'm going mad watching the United States stumble through a mass death event, pushing aside elderly folks & poor folks & people of color in pursuit of normalcy, summertime, & instant gratification. We are grotesque. This is horrifying.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (+7yf7)

192 Beach and Park patrol, shoot when you see the whites of their bodies..................

Posted by: saf at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (5IHGB)

193 t-bird: I found a bigger version which does have a date for the WWII soldier:
https://bit.ly/2XqPDZY

Ah, good. Thanks, T-bird. (Encyclopedia Hordennica is thorough!)

I thought it was odd to have cropped off the 1776 date, much less no 1940s date.

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (cHbIE)

194 I wonder if there's a way to pull up those ships' complements online to find his name.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2020 10:49 AM (2JVJo)


For enlisted, try the National Archives at St. Louis, MO. Officer records don't start until 1902 (not sure where those would be).

https://tinyurl.com/yctnnrew

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (t+qrx)

195 fifty stars, you'd get Korea added in.
Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM (cHbIE)


Nope! Try again. Korea was 1950ish to about 1953ish. Alaska and Hawaii weren't given statehood until 1959.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (/VzmO)

196 I'm kinda digging their alternate Dread Pirate Roberts uniform.

https://tinyurl.com/yanfvfp9
Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode) at May 25, 2020 11:07 AM (OMsf+)

Oh boy...

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (zr5Kq)

197 Foreign Policy magazine has a new article claiming that Trump has "Upended four decades of successful US foreign policy in the Middle East"

They must have a very interesting definition of "successful"

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (LZ7Gl)

198 Democrat Sheila Jackass Lee Claims That Biden Did Not Really Make Bigoted "You Ain't Black" Remark

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Lee is trying to edge out Mad Max Waters for the dumbest woman in congress title.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2020 11:09 AM (+y/Ru)

199 Death Historian major= waiter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:09 AM (nQHrn)

200 By fifty stars, you'd get Korea added in.

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM (cHbIE)

Korea was 50-53. Alaska and Hawaii weren't states until later in the decade.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 202


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I think Mindful meant that if the flag were to have 50 stars, the painting would therefore be from 1960 or later, and would thus have a Korean War soldier in it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:10 AM (rpbg1)

201 "four decades of successful US foreign policy in the Middle East."

Four decades of....'Scuse me while I laugh my fvcking ass off. Gaslighting at its finest, ladies and germs.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 25, 2020 11:10 AM (+7yf7)

202 Lee is trying to edge out Mad Max Waters for the dumbest woman in congress title

DC Representative Norton holds that honor by pressing the red button.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 11:10 AM (PP3gl)

203 That's great that your dad kept a journal. Mine was in the South Pacific. He was in an advance team of Engineers who built the air fields once each area/island was secured. He was in the Phillipines building more and more expecting to use them when the invasion of Japan began.
He started out a 90 day wonder in the army air corps. His eyes weren't up to standards and then they figured out his brain worked like a calculator and off he went to build stuff.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 25, 2020 11:10 AM (rEHTZ)

204 fifty stars, you'd get Korea added in.
Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM (cHbIE)

Nope! Try again. Korea was 1950ish to about 1953ish. Alaska and Hawaii weren't given statehood until 1959.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (/VzmO)

I think he meant that by the time we had 50 stars that Korea was next in line.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (2DOZq)

205 How's about the tone deafness of the NYTs vis a vis our Veterans. I mean, according to them, us Veterans are a bunch of white supremacists and Memorial Day is a White supremacist holiday.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&&

I can't dredge up any more disdain for the NYT and the rest of the Resistance Media. That bucket is empty and has been for a great long while.

Posted by: Blutarski at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (VNfwt)

206

As always, my heroes wear dog tags, especially the role models.

Thank you, my beloved Father.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (KATBx)

207 I think Mindful meant that if the flag were to have 50 stars, the painting would therefore be from 1960 or later, and would thus have a Korean War soldier in it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:10 AM (rpbg1)

doncha' love repetitive incomprehension?

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (X/Pw5)

208 1 has no tail but my 7 does.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (mWu8/)

209 Four decades of....'Scuse me while I laugh my fvcking ass off. Gaslighting at its finest, ladies and germs.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 25, 2020 11:10 AM (+7yf7)
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Where did you see that?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (WEBkv)

210 Death Historian?

So the hag knitting and cackling as the heads bounced from being Guillotined?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (PP3gl)

211
209 Where did you see that?

Biggs 4 comments before.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 25, 2020 11:12 AM (+7yf7)

212 1 has no tail but my 7 does.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (mWu8/)
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My seven is a vee and two eyes.

What?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 25, 2020 11:13 AM (4o2K3)

213 I'm kinda digging their alternate Dread Pirate Roberts uniform.

https://tinyurl.com/yanfvfp9
Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode)

That's embarrassing. Show pom poms?

Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2020 11:13 AM (sNpqr)

214 So the hag knitting and cackling as the heads bounced from being Guillotined?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (PP3gl)
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Man, that was a great disguise!

Posted by: the scarlet pimpernel at May 25, 2020 11:13 AM (WEBkv)

215 I'm imagining that painting with a mincing prancing little soy-boy standing in front of them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:13 AM (Kpl3J)

216 197
Foreign Policy magazine has a new article claiming that Trump has
"Upended four decades of successful US foreign policy in the Middle
East"



They must have a very interesting definition of "successful"

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (LZ7Gl)
Beirut bombing
9/11BenghaziLibya (thanks Hillary)SomaliaYeah. Successful diplomacy.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2020 11:13 AM (D3cJf)

217 197 Foreign Policy magazine has a new article claiming that Trump has "Upended four decades of successful US foreign policy in the Middle East"

They must have a very interesting definition of "successful"

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (LZ7Gl)



It's what Obama calls a happy ending.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 11:13 AM (mWu8/)

218 Where Eagles Dare >>> The Great Escape
Posted by: REDACTED at May 25, 2020 11:07 AM (UUUON)

King Rat > The Great Escape > Bridge Over the River Kwai.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 11:13 AM (2DOZq)

219 Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (mWu8/)
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My seven is a vee and two eyes.

What?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 25, 2020 11:13 AM (4o2K3)

VII

Posted by: Fox 2! at May 25, 2020 11:13 AM (qyH+l)

220 If I see one more store marquee with "heroes work here" I'll be tempted to ventilate it. Now Walgreens is in on the action.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 25, 2020 11:14 AM (C1Lsn)

221 It's what Obama calls a happy ending.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020


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My mind cannot handle what Obama would call a "happy ending."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:14 AM (rpbg1)

222 197
Foreign Policy magazine has a new article claiming that Trump has
"Upended four decades of successful US foreign policy in the Middle
East"



They must have a very interesting definition of "successful"

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (LZ7Gl)
Lets try this again.Beirut bombing, 9/11, Benghazi, Libya (thanks Hillary), Somalia.
Successful diplomacy indeed.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2020 11:14 AM (D3cJf)

223 Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 11:03 AM (Fc5rx)

it is strange that he would stop a habit if almost 2 years - maybe that's why

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:14 AM (G546f)

224
I'm kinda digging their alternate Dread Pirate Roberts uniform.



https://tinyurl.com/yanfvfp9

Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode)



That's embarrassing. Show pom poms?

Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2020 11:13 AM


I'm talking about the all black uniform. Has a very pirate-esque look. Not a really a military look, though.

Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode) at May 25, 2020 11:15 AM (OMsf+)

225
As a death historian, I feel like I'm going mad watching the United States stumble through a mass death event, pushing aside elderly folks & poor folks & people of color in pursuit of normalcy, summertime, & instant gratification. We are grotesque. This is horrifying.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 25, 2020 11:08 AM (+7yf7)


As an American I feel like I'm going mad watching Democratic governors stumble through a mass death event, pushing elderly people into nursing homes to infect others and immiserating the population in pursuit of power. They are grotesque. You are horrifying.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2020 11:15 AM (mht8P)

226 215 I'm imagining that painting with a mincing prancing little soy-boy standing in front of them.

And they are facing in the direction to our left. Rockwell knew the enemy.

Posted by: Rex B at May 25, 2020 11:15 AM (a+ffW)

227
Leah Richier
@CallMeRichier

As a death historian




And she looks exactly like you'd expect. Nose in the air, as well.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2020 11:15 AM (oVJmc)

228 Ingrid Pitt >>>> Rusa Tikus

Posted by: REDACTED at May 25, 2020 11:16 AM (UUUON)

229 An Omission by Rockwell: in 1861 the Soldiers in Grey were Americans, too.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:16 AM (Kpl3J)

230 Biggs 4 comments before.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 25, 2020 11:12 AM (+7yf7)
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Ah, thank you.

I looked up Foreign Policy Magazine and, if the web site I found is any relationship to the magazine itself, it is nothing more than a load of leftist codswallop.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:17 AM (WEBkv)

231 Leah Richier...

The US fought the Great War and suffered 675,000 dead from the Spanish Influenza...

Get a grip you future blue haired twat-waffle of a Karen.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 11:17 AM (PP3gl)

232 Karen clarifies:

Leah Richier
@CallMeRichier

19h
To clarify I have a PhD in History & I specialize in the history of death, particularly in the US South in the 19th & 20th centuries. "Death Studies" is an interdisciplinary field that includes history, religion, archaeology, & anthropology. If you Google that, you'll find more!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 25, 2020 11:17 AM (+7yf7)

233 I'm thinking about going to sit outside for a time before lunch, but I don't want to miss the Morning Rant.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:18 AM (rpbg1)

234 This chick strikes me more like a serial killer groupie and just wants a cool name for it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:18 AM (nQHrn)

235 An Omission by Rockwell: in 1861 the Soldiers in Grey were Americans, too.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:16 AM (Kpl3J)

They fought under a flag other than the Stars and Stripes. They became Americans again after 1865.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 11:18 AM (2DOZq)

236 King Rat > The Great Escape > Bridge Over the River Kwai.

I read King Rat. Holy cow. Did my perspective ever change after that. May be why I have never voted demonrat.

Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2020 11:18 AM (sNpqr)

237 209 Four decades of....'Scuse me while I laugh my fvcking ass off. Gaslighting at its finest, ladies and germs.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 25, 2020 11:10 AM (+7yf7)
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Where did you see that?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (WEBkv)


https://twitter.com/ForeignPolicy/status
/1264239755086254082?s=20

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 25, 2020 11:18 AM (jGlkJ)

238 Someone should ask the death historian what she thinks about abortion.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (H5knJ)

239 Muldoon: The date may be purely coincidental...

Misty in here all of a sudden. Dang allergies.

Milady asked how you came by his diary, and I don't recall. Refresher?

I have my uncle's recollections of his time in Europe (after which he was being aimed at Tokyo, thank you Mr. Atom). I quoted just a little bit of his book once on here, mentioned that to him, and he got upset. I don't suppose he'd mind so much now that he's gone.

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (cHbIE)

240 alternate title for the painting : Sideburns in the Army

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (G546f)

241 Thanks, OM.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (WEBkv)

242 I looked up Foreign Policy Magazine and, if the web site I found is any relationship to the magazine itself, it is nothing more than a load of leftist codswallop.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020


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Where, I wonder, did the word "codswallop" come from? Anything to do with codfish?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (rpbg1)

243 when commenters in the (low) 300s hit the leaderboard it means that y'all need to comment more and often...

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM



I blame Insomniac for getting a job

Posted by: Hands at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (786Ro)

244 238 Someone should ask the death historian what she thinks about abortion.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (H5knJ)

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Bets on, "a sacrament and the only holy thing on Gaia."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (LvTSG)

245 I love the stories being told on this day. Thank you, Muldoon.

You too, Joe. Bless your heart.

Posted by: creeper at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (XxJt1)

246 Uniform during the Mexican War was khaki.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 11:20 AM (mWu8/)

247 I'm kinda digging their alternate Dread Pirate Roberts uniform.

https://tinyurl.com/yanfvfp9
Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode) at May 25, 2020 11:07 AM (OMsf+)

Wow. I thought boy bands had gone out of style.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:20 AM (Kpl3J)

248 My thought as well, Anna. Our 'mass' casualty event is not especially massy, relatively speaking.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:20 AM (nQHrn)

249 To trap Leah

Start by asking what she thinks of the Nazi eugenics pogrom while quoting Margaret Sanger.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 11:20 AM (PP3gl)

250 To clarify I have a PhD in History & I specialize in the history of death, particularly in the US South in the 19th & 20th centuries. "Death Studies" is an interdisciplinary field that includes history, religion, archaeology, & anthropology. If you Google that, you'll find more!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 25, 2020 11:17 AM (+7yf7)

No womens/black/latino/queer studies? Not a worthy PhD program IMO.

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2020 11:20 AM (X/Pw5)

251 alternate title for the painting : Sideburns in the Army
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (G546f)
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Works for me!

Posted by: Ambrose Everett Burnside at May 25, 2020 11:20 AM (4o2K3)

252 Separated but Americans nontheless
See #126

Posted by: dan patterson at May 25, 2020 11:20 AM (RGKqg)

253 in my opinion:

dead historian >>> death historian

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:21 AM (G546f)

254 Watching our President at the Tomb of the Unknown.

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To those who've never had the opportunity to be there, it is an amazing experience. Mesmerizing, somber and deeply moving.

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 25, 2020 11:21 AM (O+I8R)

255 Lets try this again.Beirut bombing, 9/11, Benghazi, Libya (thanks Hillary), Somalia.
Successful diplomacy indeed.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 25, 2020 11:14 AM (D3cJf)
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We agree with the assessment of Foreign Policy Magazine.

Posted by: Military Industrial Complex at May 25, 2020 11:21 AM (WEBkv)

256 Raining and 55 here in Seattle.

I'm not going to look at the local news today.

God grant peace to all those who lost their lives defending our Country. And to their families.

Need coffee.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 25, 2020 11:22 AM (U2p+3)

257 Where, I wonder, did the word "codswallop" come from? Anything to do with codfish?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (rpbg1)


Said to be from 19c. (but first attested 1959), perhaps from wallop, British slang for "beer," and cod in one of its various senses, perhaps "testicles" (a 1966 citation in OED spells it cod's wallop).

https://tinyurl.com/y3ujjusk

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2020 11:22 AM (t+qrx)

258
Using the FORTRAN coding sheets.
Posted by: Fox 2!
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We never used those cross bars.

Posted by: SNOBOL programmer at May 25, 2020 11:23 AM (X22L5)

259 Where, I wonder, did the word "codswallop" come from? Anything to do with codfish?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (rpbg1)

Said to be from 19c. (but first attested 1959), perhaps from wallop, British slang for "beer," and cod in one of its various senses, perhaps "testicles" (a 1966 citation in OED spells it cod's wallop).

https://tinyurl.com/y3ujjusk
Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2020


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Testicles in beer? Now there's an image for you.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:24 AM (rpbg1)

260
As vest I could determine, this work's title is "To Make Men Free" and it was painted / issued in 1943.

A script, "Today", appeared at the bottom, over the midriff of the WWII GI. Why someone felt compelled to remove it (poorly) for this picture is not clear.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 11:24 AM (pNxlR)

261 Where, I wonder, did the word "codswallop" come from? Anything to do with codfish?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (rpbg1)
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No idea, but I've long thought it a wonderful word to use when describing stupidity.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:24 AM (WEBkv)

262 Repeating a comment:

PDT wants a yes or no from NC governor on whether he will permit the national convention to go on.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 11:24 AM (mWu8/)

263 No laughing at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier

https://youtu.be/bsdHxUXf2CE

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 11:24 AM (PP3gl)

264 Testicles in beer? Now there's an image for you.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:24 AM (rpbg1)


Beer: the other pudding.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2020 11:24 AM (t+qrx)

265 Said to be from 19c. (but first attested 1959), perhaps from wallop, British slang for "beer," and cod in one of its various senses, perhaps "testicles" (a 1966 citation in OED spells it cod's wallop).

https://tinyurl.com/y3ujjusk
Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2020 11:22 AM (t+qrx)


Testicle beer? Hard pass.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 25, 2020 11:25 AM (jGlkJ)

266 That's embarrassing. Show pom poms?
Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2020 11:13 AM (sNpqr)


Not show, utility.

Gives them something to hold onto while the First Shirt reams then out.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 25, 2020 11:25 AM (1g7ch)

267 My Zs have a mid cross bar. Not sure why. I think I may have copied it from a teacher and kept with it.

Posted by: Floyd of Rosedale at May 25, 2020 11:25 AM (O6DoG)

268 The bubbles feel nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:26 AM (nQHrn)

269 MUMR wants to know what is wrong with someone else's brain. Irony.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2020 11:26 AM (oVJmc)

270 No laughing at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier

https://youtu.be/bsdHxUXf2CE
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 11:24 AM (PP3gl)


"a level of silence and respect?" Not with this lousy citizenry.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2020 11:26 AM (2JVJo)

271 codswallop = cod cooked in beer

Which reminds me, I need to finish assembling the ceviche.

Posted by: creeper at May 25, 2020 11:26 AM (XxJt1)

272 Eh, gotta go to work later.

Guess I'll start writing on the next book again while I still have time.

Actually, next two.

There another novel that keeps beating at the door every time I start writing on my latest.

I kinda hate that.

Maybe I'll give it some time..*sigh*

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2020 11:27 AM (z0XD8)

273 Norman Rockwell fucking rocks.

Happy Memorial Day, everyone.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at May 25, 2020 11:27 AM (d1uFV)

274 No laughing at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier

https://youtu.be/bsdHxUXf2CE
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 11:24 AM (PP3gl)

I visited w/a bunch of noisy high schoolers....sentry called us out.

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2020 11:27 AM (X/Pw5)

275 "Upended four decades of successful US foreign policy in the Middle
East"



40 yrs... so does the success begin the day before or after the Beirut Towers bombing?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 25, 2020 11:27 AM (1g7ch)

276 MUMR wants to know what is wrong with someone else's brain. Irony.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 25, 2020


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I finally got what "MUMR" stands for. I was thinking some troll had named itself after that guy who was on those bumperstickers in the '80s, Mumia.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:27 AM (rpbg1)

277 Running Bear loved Little White Dove... with full oooga chooga background vocals. I am pleasantly surprised Sirius Radio is not sanitizing 60s music.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:28 AM (nQHrn)

278
Milady asked how you came by his diary, and I don't recall. Refresher?


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Dad died in '03. The diary was among his things and Mom shared it with my brother who went through the handwritten journal (in two separate notebooks), and did a full page-by-page transcription, published with one scanned sheet of the handwritten journal along with the accompanying transcript on each page-- as a limited run for just family. I began digging into it in more depth when I was writing the somewhat light-hearted and whimsical "To Save Us All From Ruin".

Oddly enough 3 of my brothers really appreciated the nod to Dad that I intended with that book while 3 of them were apparently offended on some level.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 11:29 AM (Fc5rx)

279 Mirror Universe Mitt Romney (MUMR)

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 25, 2020 11:29 AM (3D/fK)

280 Me: By fifty stars, you'd get Korea added in.

Hadrian: Korea was 50-53. Alaska and Hawaii weren't states until later in the decade.

Which was what I was trying and apparently failing to convey. The "1940s Rockwell" style aside, I presumed the flag was 48-stars (not being as discerning as Anna Puma), because if it had been a fifty-star flag, Korea vet would have been pictured. Or something like that. Blah blah mooty moot too many words point answered already.

*stares at empty coffee pot*

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:29 AM (cHbIE)

281 I'm kinda digging their alternate Dread Pirate Roberts uniform.

https://tinyurl.com/yanfvfp9
Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode) at May 25, 2020 11:07 AM (OMsf+)

so THAT version explains the odd muddle in the bottom center of This version, which looks like something is wrong with the painting there. For some reason, the "1943" was removed from this version, and the area where the "9" was has been rather poorly retouched.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:29 AM (Kpl3J)

282 when commenters in the (low) 300s hit the leaderboard it means that y'all need to comment more and often...
Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:05 AM



I don't always dunk them in beer. But when I do, I use Dos Testes.

Stay pervy, my friends.

Posted by: The Most Interesting Man in the World at May 25, 2020 11:30 AM (786Ro)

283 I'm sure American leftists simply hate Norman Rockwell. At least, his artwork, which purely encapsulated a slice in time of Americana. Can you imagine Omar, Tlaib or AOC appreciating those works? The reaction would be like showing Satan the cross.

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 25, 2020 11:30 AM (O+I8R)

284 Oddly enough 3 of my brothers really appreciated the nod to Dad that I intended with that book while 3 of them were apparently offended on some level.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020


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You come from a big family. May I guess that seven brides were also involved?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:30 AM (rpbg1)

285 40 yrs... so does the success begin the day before or after the Beirut Towers bombing?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 25, 2020 11:27 AM (1g7ch)
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As a statement, it is so brazen in it's stupidity, it tends to stun, temporarily, while one wonders if it is even worth trying to refute, because of the level of delusion it projects.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:31 AM (WEBkv)

286 MUMR was a regular commenter, once. For given values of 'normal/regular'.

He's more machine than man now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:31 AM (nQHrn)

287 AAAH wrong c&p.

THIS is the link to the original painting:

141 is there a date for the WW2 soldier? I don't see it...

I found a bigger version which does have a date for the WWII soldier:

https://bit.ly/2XqPDZY
Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2020 10:56 AM (8DRUP)

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:31 AM (Kpl3J)

288 The Norman Rockwell museum is about 15 minutes from my house, a great perk for this area.

Posted by: REDACTED at May 25, 2020 10:48 AM (UUUON)


You live in Vermont? My wife wanted to stop there on the way to White River Junction and I said nfw. In retrospect I kind of feel like a prick for doing that but I was tired and cranky. And I'm not a big Rockwell fan. At all. He's a very skilled illustrator whose underlying message is as obvious as the nose on anyone's face.

Before you start piling on and accuse me of being un American I think it's an excellent choice for today.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 25, 2020 11:31 AM (y7DUB)

289 Mirror Universe Mitt Romney (MUMR)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 25, 2020


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Not to mention the latest, MUFF.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:32 AM (rpbg1)

290 285 40 yrs... so does the success begin the day before or after the Beirut Towers bombing?
Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 25, 2020 11:27 AM (1g7ch)
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As a statement, it is so brazen in it's stupidity, it tends to stun, temporarily, while one wonders if it is even worth trying to refute, because of the level of delusion it projects.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:31 AM (WEBkv)

I always dated the success as starting when Jimmy Carter's rescue mission crashed and burned in the desert.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:32 AM (Kpl3J)

291
*stares at empty coffee pot*
Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:29 AM (cHbIE)


Quite so. I'll keep it to myself next time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2020 11:32 AM (mht8P)

292 My opinion is that the coolest looking uniform remains the Revolutionary War BDU. If more men wore tricorn hats, our testosterone would be increased by 233%.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 25, 2020 11:32 AM (DY3v8)

293 MUCK

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:33 AM (nQHrn)

294 MUMR was a regular commenter, once. For given values of 'normal/regular'.

He's more machine than man now.
Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020


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Then someone needs to deliver him to Talos IV.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:33 AM (rpbg1)

295 Can you imagine Omar, Tlaib or AOC appreciating understanding those works?


*Suggested edit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 25, 2020 11:33 AM (3D/fK)

296 You come from a big family. May I guess that seven brides were also involved?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:30 AM (rpbg1)

not at the stag party, that's for sure.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:33 AM (Kpl3J)

297
When all is said and done, the Confederates were fighting to maintain slavery.

Yes yes , those damned racist Southerners less than 1% of which owned slaves.

Virtue signalers taking the side of the North in the conflict will always make slavery the focus of the war.


They will never admit that Lincoln and his psychotic murderous generals destroyed any hope of true State governance in favor of the Imperial Federal Government .

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (lbPuN)

298
Foreign Policy magazine has a new article claiming that Trump has "Upended four decades of successful US foreign policy in the Middle
East"


If it was so damn successful, then why are there more U. S. forces' personnel there now than there were forty years ago?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (pNxlR)

299 Great picture! Feel free to post Norman Rockwell pictures any time--he is one of the vastly unappreciated chroniclers of early- and mid-20th Century America.

Posted by: Tom at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (L5g/U)

300 Immediately recognizable as a Norman Rockwell. Perfect selection.

Posted by: FloridaMan at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (CuTuZ)

301 How long did it take us to colonize our Middle West and Plains? And look at how successful our Indians have become at integrating into American culture.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 25, 2020 11:35 AM (DY3v8)

302 Oddly enough 3 of my brothers really appreciated the nod to Dad that I intended with that book while 3 of them were apparently offended on some level.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 11:29 AM (Fc5rx)

you have 6 brothers?

are you the seventh son?

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:35 AM (G546f)

303 Where, I wonder, did the word "codswallop" come from? Anything to do with codfish?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:19 AM (rpbg1)

Said to be from 19c. (but first attested 1959), perhaps from wallop, British slang for "beer," and cod in one of its various senses, perhaps "testicles" (a 1966 citation in OED spells it cod's wallop).

https://tinyurl.com/y3ujjusk
Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2020

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Testicles in beer? Now there's an image for you.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:24 AM (rpbg1)


Beer Nuts

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 25, 2020 11:36 AM (1g7ch)

304 can we not re-enact 1861 today please?

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:36 AM (G546f)

305 Now Annette Funacello with sunshine lollipops and rainbows.

60s as the greatest musical decade, eh?

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:37 AM (nQHrn)

306 Didn't Barack just phone it in on Memorial Day? I think he went once to the Tomb of the Unknown and thereafter he just dispatched a wreath.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 25, 2020 11:37 AM (a4EWo)

307 This is what Andrew Klavan said about the NY Times (I'm paraphrasing from memory)

"A former newspaper, which now is a combination of Pravda and a bunch of six-year-old girls who have just seen a mouse."

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 25, 2020 11:37 AM (PiwSw)

308 Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (lbPuN)

You seem nice.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 25, 2020 11:37 AM (dLLD6)

309 The Spanish American war uniform was pretty cool.

Nobody wanted to incorporate my uniform ideas when I was in: riding crops for officers, jackboots, service branch unique codpieces, and beer hats.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 25, 2020 11:37 AM (DY3v8)

310 They will never admit that Lincoln and his psychotic murderous generals destroyed any hope of true State governance in favor of the Imperial Federal Government .
Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (lbPuN)
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Maybe, had the South not violated the treaty clause of the US Constitution, it wouldn't have precipitated the Civil War, thereby giving impetus to the creation of the all powerful federal government?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:37 AM (WEBkv)

311 are you the seventh son?

*********

I am.

In fact I am the seventh son of a second son. So instead of the gift of second sight I was blessed with the gift of20/20 hindsight.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)

312 The flag would still be 48 stars if Korea were included.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 11:38 AM (mWu8/)

313 My flag has only 49 stars...Oregon will always be a territory in my eyes.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 25, 2020 11:39 AM (DY3v8)

314 can we not re-enact 1861 today please?

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:36 AM (G546f)

No thanks....I'll pass.

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2020 11:39 AM (X/Pw5)

315 Nothing even remotely patriotic on shorpy this week. May be why I had forgotten about that site.

Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2020 11:39 AM (sNpqr)

316 Wake Island(1942) is a favorite movie of mine.

Anyone know about the cast and were any of them big time stars?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2020 11:39 AM (Z+IKu)

317 The Spanish American war uniform was pretty cool.


Those uniforms weren't uniform. TR has Brooks Brothers make up one that was cool enough for him.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 25, 2020 11:40 AM (gd9RK)

318 Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)

Ha!

You realize it's your destiny to have seven sons yourself

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:40 AM (G546f)

319 can we not re-enact 1861 today please?
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:36 AM (G546f)
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Apologies to you, CBD and OM.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:40 AM (WEBkv)

320 I finally got what "MUMR" stands for. I was thinking some troll had named itself after that guy who was on those bumperstickers in the '80s, Mumia.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:27 AM (rpbg1)

I always thought it was the guy who chased Lion-O and Cheetarah around.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:40 AM (Kpl3J)

321 There are three sides to every war story.

*shrug*

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 25, 2020 11:41 AM (lbPuN)

322 Foreign Policy magazine has a new article claiming that Trump has "Upended four decades of successful US foreign policy in the Middle
East"

If it was so damn successful, then why are there more U. S. forces' personnel there now than there were forty years ago?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (pNxlR)

So that goes all the way back to 1980 and Reagan (but excludes Carter). Includes the "success" in Beirut, Lebanon; Clinton passing on Bin Laden; W starting long war in Iraq (why?) and Afghanistan (without end), and Obama (Libya, ISIS, Syria, Iran).

So much success.

Posted by: FloridaMan at May 25, 2020 11:41 AM (CuTuZ)

323 Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (lbPuN)

Why is it so hard to accept that the disagreement over slavery was the catalyst and main reason for the secession and subsequently the war? And as it's always been, the 1% control much of everything.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 11:41 AM (2DOZq)

324 Tomb of the Unknown Soldier

Vague memory circa 1960 fam vacation and visitors were silent or speaking in hushed tones. Even as a kid you could tell This Was Serious.

Have a small piece of white marble picked from railroad track ballast from quarry in Colorado.

Posted by: banned says quietly at May 25, 2020 11:41 AM (VQO2l)

325 Nobody wanted to incorporate my uniform ideas when I was in: riding crops for officers, jackboots, service branch unique codpieces, and beer hats.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 25, 2020 11:37 AM (DY3v


The whole time I was in the Navy, never once was the uniform of the day Tropical White (shorts, knee socks, short-sleeve shirt, pith helmet).

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2020 11:41 AM (t+qrx)

326 304 can we not re-enact 1861 today please?
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:36 AM (G546f)

Oh fine.

*puts musket away*

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 11:42 AM (NWiLs)

327 I think I'm going out of my head on the radio and my parents both singing along. And all of a sudden I am 13 on a road trip to El Paso again.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:42 AM (nQHrn)

328 322 Foreign Policy magazine has a new article claiming that Trump has "Upended four decades of successful US foreign policy in the Middle
East"

If it was so damn successful, then why are there more U. S. forces' personnel there now than there were forty years ago?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (pNxlR)

So that goes all the way back to 1980 and Reagan (but excludes Carter). Includes the "success" in Beirut, Lebanon; Clinton passing on Bin Laden; W starting long war in Iraq (why?) and Afghanistan (without end), and Obama (Libya, ISIS, Syria, Iran).

So much success.
Posted by: FloridaMan at May 25, 2020 11:41 AM (CuTuZ)

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And since Foreign Policy magazine is lefty, do they now consider W.'s a foreign policy success?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 11:42 AM (LvTSG)

329 Wake Island(1942) is a favorite movie of mine.

Anyone know about the cast and were any of them big time stars?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2020


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A quick search says that John Farrow, Mia's father, directed it; and Brian Donlevy and Macdonald Carey were the stars. Carey was mostly a character actor, I think; Days of Our Lives began as a vehicle for him in the '60s. Donlevy played heavies but also heroic leads in the '40s and '50s.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:43 AM (rpbg1)

330 Now Annette Funacello with sunshine lollipops and rainbows.

60s as the greatest musical decade, eh?
Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:37 AM (nQHrn)


Annette? I thought that was Leslie Gore.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2020 11:43 AM (2JVJo)

331 277 Running Bear loved Little White Dove... with full oooga chooga background vocals. I am pleasantly surprised Sirius Radio is not sanitizing 60s music.
Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:28 AM (nQHrn)

So much of it now would be considered harassment or stalking.

Posted by: Fox 2! at May 25, 2020 11:43 AM (qyH+l)

332 can we not re-enact 1861 today please?
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times


I'm picturing vmom stopping the Civil War by dragging Abraham Lincoln and Jefferson Davis back into the house by their ears.

Boys will be boys, until mom gets ahold of them.

Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2020 11:43 AM (jacU8)

333 Brian Dennehey gave a poignant turn as Wake Island.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (gd9RK)

334 312 The flag would still be 48 stars if Korea were included

Naw, bro, Korea is the 57th state!!

Posted by: Barry Sotero, historian and gourmet at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (VQO2l)

335 In fact I am the seventh son of a second son. So instead of the gift of second sight I was blessed with the gift of 20/20 hindsight.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)

Well I'm the First Son of a First Son, and we're all blessed with the gift of knowing that we were born with the Right and the Duty to give orders to everyone else.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (Kpl3J)

336 Good morning Horde.

As I do every Memorial Day I invite all who wish to join me in a silent toast to those who gave all tonight at 5PM Pacific Coast time.
Hoist a beverage of your choice to those brave men and women.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (axyOa)

337 You might be right, MP4.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (nQHrn)

338 Joe is out of the basement.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (ZLI7S)

339 Why do I get adds for hemp gummy bears ???

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (zr5Kq)

340 Robert Preston and William Bendix were also in Wake Island.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (aKsyK)

341 A quick search says that John Farrow, Mia's father, directed it; and Brian Donlevy and Macdonald Carey were the stars. Carey was mostly a character actor, I think; Days of Our Lives began as a vehicle for him in the '60s. Donlevy played heavies but also heroic leads in the '40s and '50s.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:43 AM (rpbg1)

Cool! Thanks Wolfus.....the cast did a good job and I did not know Mia's dad was the director.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (Z+IKu)

342 335 In fact I am the seventh son of a second son. So instead of the gift of second sight I was blessed with the gift of 20/20 hindsight.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)

Well I'm the First Son of a First Son, and we're all blessed with the gift of knowing that we were born with the Right and the Duty to give orders to everyone else.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (Kpl3J)

I'm the first son of a second son. Which means precisely jack shit.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (NWiLs)

343 Speaking of the unpleasantness of 1861, anyone up to watch Grant tonight on History Channel? I enjoyed the Chernow bio but he does have a tendency to adore his subject matter.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (DY3v8)

344 Good morning Horde.

As I do every Memorial Day I invite all who wish to join me in a silent toast to those who gave all tonight at 5PM Pacific Coast time.
Hoist a beverage of your choice to those brave men and women.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (axyOa)

OK.

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (zr5Kq)

345 Why do I get adds for hemp gummy bears ???
Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (zr5Kq)
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You're posting from JackStraw's computer?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (WEBkv)

346 LOL

They just showed biden and his wife wearing hideous BLACK masks laying a wreath....Think the BLACK means something?

LOL..No one around and this putz is wearing a mask

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (85Gof)

347 >>> 338 Joe is out of the basement.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (ZLI7S)

... and running down the street?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at May 25, 2020 11:46 AM (0ReGO)

348 19h
To clarify I have a PhD in History & I specialize in the history of death, particularly in the US South in the 19th & 20th centuries. "Death Studies" is an interdisciplinary field that includes history, religion, archaeology, & anthropology. If you Google that, you'll find more!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 25, 2020 11:17 AM (+7yf7)

There's only one death that scrunt needs to worry about, and she oughta get after it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2020 11:46 AM (doIZO)

349 Joe is out of the basement.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (ZLI7S)
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Jean a du longue moustache.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 25, 2020 11:46 AM (4o2K3)

350 335 In fact I am the seventh son of a second son. So instead of the gift of second sight I was blessed with the gift of 20/20 hindsight.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)

Well I'm the First Son of a First Son, and we're all blessed with the gift of knowing that we were born with the Right and the Duty to give orders to everyone else.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (Kpl3J)

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I am the second son of a second son and I now have a second son.

I think he's screwed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 11:46 AM (LvTSG)

351
Joe is out of the basement.
Posted by: JackStraw


Wounds my heart with a monotonous languor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 25, 2020 11:46 AM (aKsyK)

352 I'm picturing vmom stopping the Civil War by dragging Abraham Lincoln and Jefferson Davis back into the house by their ears.


Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2020 11:43 AM (jacU



Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:46 AM (G546f)

353 Speaking of the unpleasantness of 1861, anyone up to watch Grant tonight on History Channel? I enjoyed the Chernow bio but he does have a tendency to adore his subject matter.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (DY3v

Produced by Leo DiCrappio?.....

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2020 11:47 AM (X/Pw5)

354 Lot of rain last night. A lot of closed roads going to the old Family cemeteries.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 11:47 AM (nQHrn)

355 309 The Spanish American war uniform consisted of very heavy wool shirts and trousers akin to canvass. Not too good in tropical climates like Cuba and the Philippines. The Stetson styled cover was ok. Now to guns. A lot of soldiers carried 1873 Springfield variants, some carried Krags, and all were outgunned by Spanish troops with Mausers or even Remington rolling blocks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 25, 2020 11:47 AM (C1Lsn)

356 Well, it's late enough in the morning for me to be able to make power tool noises in the backyard.

Later, all!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:48 AM (WEBkv)

357 353 Speaking of the unpleasantness of 1861, anyone up to watch Grant tonight on History Channel? I enjoyed the Chernow bio but he does have a tendency to adore his subject matter.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (DY3v

Produced by Leo DiCrappio?.....
Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2020 11:47 AM (X/Pw5)

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There were talks for a while of Leo starring in a Grant biopic directed by Spielberg (or Scorsese...though I think Scorsese's long standing biopic of an American is Washington).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 25, 2020 11:48 AM (LvTSG)

358 There are three sides to every war story.


*shrug*


Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 25, 2020 11:41 AM (lbPuN)


Does that include your take...suggesting that anyone who thinks slavery was the catalyst is virtue signalling?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 25, 2020 11:48 AM (dLLD6)

359 You're posting from JackStraw's computer?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 25, 2020 11:45 AM (WEBkv)

No. From my own.



Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:48 AM (zr5Kq)

360 Why is it so hard to accept that the disagreement over slavery was the catalyst and main reason for the secession and subsequently the war? And as it's always been, the 1% control much of everything.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 11:41 AM (2DOZq)



Ever since and always will the democrat party be the party of slavery, or whatever new name they choose to call it.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 25, 2020 11:49 AM (1g7ch)

361 error: Khaki was the 1916 Punitive Expedition uniform not the Mexican War.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 11:49 AM (mWu8/)

362 In fact I am the seventh son of a second son. So instead of the gift of second sight I was blessed with the gift of 20/20 hindsight.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)

Well I'm the First Son of a First Son, and we're all blessed with the gift of knowing that we were born with the Right and the Duty to give orders to everyone else.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:44 AM (Kpl3J)

I'm the first son of a second son. Which means precisely jack shit.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo


I'm the third son of a first son. The only reason I'm even here is because my next older brother (10 years between him and the older two) was an accident and the folks decided He needed someone to kick around.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2020 11:50 AM (axyOa)

363 This is what Andrew Klavan said about the NY Times (I'm paraphrasing from memory)

"A former newspaper, which now is a combination of Pravda and a bunch of six-year-old girls who have just seen a mouse."

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Sadly, they would be very proud of that description. They couldn't care less how poorly they truly are as the "paper of record."

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 25, 2020 11:50 AM (O+I8R)

364 The town canceled the annual Memorial Day Parade and ceremony today. Still doing the distancing thing.

Instead they rolled out our two antique fire engines and a bunch of antique cars and drove the veterans all through the town. They just went by my place with sirens blaring and people lining the road to wave and honor them.

Pretty cool.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2020 11:50 AM (ZLI7S)

365 error: Khaki was the 1916 Punitive Expedition uniform not the Mexican War.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020


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Black Jack Pershing going after Pancho Villa after the latter's raid on New Mexico?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:50 AM (rpbg1)

366 Lots of sons here.

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:50 AM (zr5Kq)

367 322
Foreign Policy magazine has a new article claiming that Trump has
"Upended four decades of successful US foreign policy in the Middle

East"



If it was so damn successful, then why are there more U. S. forces' personnel there now than there were forty years ago?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (pNxlR)


By "success" they mean bending over for the Mullahs in Iran.

Posted by: Javems at May 25, 2020 11:50 AM (ofIwF)

368 "Death Studies"

Blew an advertising agency job interview once bcuz I had never heard term "death care industry" (funeral homes, etc) and laughed out loud first time I heard it.

Posted by: banned was a mad man kinda sorta at May 25, 2020 11:50 AM (VQO2l)

369 I am the only son of a first son, whatever that means

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (85Gof)

370 There's only one death that scrunt needs to worry about, and she oughta get after it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2020 11:46 AM (doIZO)

That's probably a job that should be contracted out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (Kpl3J)

371 Teddy was able to get a couple of browning machine guns for his Rough Riders. I believe they were purchased by a private donor.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (2DOZq)

372 369 I am the only son of a first son, whatever that means
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (85Gof)

I'm guessing you don't have any brothers.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (NWiLs)

373 We watched Hell To Eternity last night. Pretty good movie. And based on a true story about an American kid who knew Japanese and how he was able to make pockets of Japanese soldiers surrender on the island of Saipan near the end of the war.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (/VzmO)

374 "Death Studies"

Blew an advertising agency job interview once bcuz I had never heard term "death care industry" (funeral homes, etc) and laughed out loud first time I heard it.
Posted by: banned was a mad man kinda sorta at May 25, 2020 11:50 AM (VQO2l)

Pro tip, next interview, make sure you know what social distancing is. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (85Gof)

375 I am the only son of a first son, whatever that means
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (85Gof)


You inherint all the dominions and the crown.

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (zr5Kq)

376 I'm sure American leftists simply hate Norman Rockwell. At least, his artwork, which purely encapsulated a slice in time of Americana. Can you imagine Omar, Tlaib or AOC appreciating those works? The reaction would be like showing Satan the cross.
Posted by: Lady in Black
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He did a lot of 'illustrations', and was probably looked down upon for that 'reason'.

A search for Rockwell images produces (?) hundreds.

Posted by: SNOBOL programmer at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (X22L5)

377 I am the only son of a first son, whatever that means
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (85Gof)

I'm guessing you don't have any brothers.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (NWiLs)

Crazy left wing older sister

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (85Gof)

378 375 I am the only son of a first son, whatever that means
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (85Gof)


You inherint all the dominions and the crown.
Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (zr5Kq)

And the veneers.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (NWiLs)

379 Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at May 25, 2020 11:25 AM (jGlkJ)


Hmm... Gorilla is late this morning ... but apparently alive.

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (AHq56)

380 Joe is out of the basement.
Posted by: JackStraw

I find it hilarious that they kept Joe in the basement for 2 full months, and the first thing he did after they let him out was to insult every Black voter in the country.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (Kpl3J)

381 Always surprised when I get caught up on comments but there's no nood yet.

For certain values of "caught up."


What a little dust-devil my clumsy flag-Korea comment kicked up. Sometimes some things are better left unsaid, which is what I remember after every time I speak.

I should pear my comments back to the punnery.

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:53 AM (cHbIE)

382
48 stars in the flag's union. You can see portions of all seven stripes that are shortened to create space for the union and you can reasonably place six rows of stars in the union. Eight columns by six rows = 48 stars.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 11:53 AM (pNxlR)

383 Memorial Day Parade


Canoga Park calif parade Dissappeared from web like a stalin retouched photo.

Posted by: banned rails at politicians at May 25, 2020 11:53 AM (VQO2l)

384 233
I'm thinking about going to sit outside for a time before lunch, but I don't want to miss the Morning Rant.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:18 AM (rpbg1)

Perhaps it's gone AWOL ?

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 25, 2020 11:54 AM (AHq56)

385 Why is it so hard to accept that the disagreement over slavery was the
catalyst and main reason for the secession and subsequently the war? And
as it's always been, the 1% control much of everything.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 11:41 AM (2DOZq)

This is absolutely a false statement and the writer knows it. The unCivil War was about states rights. Nothing else. Chiefly the right of the state to label one or more races as being able to bought and sold and hunted down like rabid dogs if they should mange to break free.
Please tell me I'm wrong.

Posted by: Cpl John M. Buford at May 25, 2020 11:54 AM (/LQkF)

386 371 Colt (designed by John Moses Browning) "potato diggers". Also,1895 Winchester carbines were donated in the "Army caliber".

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 25, 2020 11:54 AM (C1Lsn)

387 Crazy left wing older sister
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (85Gof)

Adopted.

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:54 AM (zr5Kq)

388 Prayers to the best and finest fighters that gave their all for our Country. A special prayer to a friend in 'Nam.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at May 25, 2020 11:54 AM (nevGY)

389
I should pear my comments back to the punnery.
Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020


*
*

Get thee to a punnery!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:54 AM (rpbg1)

390 371 Teddy was able to get a couple of browning machine guns for his Rough Riders. I believe they were purchased by a private donor.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (2DOZq)

Colt "potato diggers", purcgasedby Louis Tiffany, whose son was in the Regiment.

Posted by: Fox 2! at May 25, 2020 11:54 AM (qyH+l)

391 Foreign Policy magazine has a new article claiming that Trump has
"Upended four decades of successful US foreign policy in the Middle East"
--------

It is an excellent article.

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at May 25, 2020 11:54 AM (X22L5)

392 I am the only son of a first son, whatever that means
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 11:51 AM (85Gof)


You inherint all the dominions and the crown.
Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (zr5Kq)

And the veneers.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (NWiLs)

And the food-taster.

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2020 11:54 AM (X/Pw5)

393 And the veneers.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (NWiLs)

LOL

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 11:54 AM (zr5Kq)

394 OK, gun nuts, what kind of gun is this from the Morning Report link about paratrooper escaping the Nazis?

https://bit.ly/3c5peWB

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2020 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)

395 If it was so damn successful, then why are there more U. S. forces' personnel there now than there were forty years ago?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (pNxlR)

So that goes all the way back to 1980 and Reagan (but excludes Carter). Includes the "success" in Beirut, Lebanon; Clinton passing on Bin Laden; W starting long war in Iraq (why?) and Afghanistan (without end), and Obama (Libya, ISIS, Syria, Iran).

So much success.
Posted by: FloridaMan at May 25, 2020 11:41 AM (CuTuZ)

It was "successful" in he sense that the THEY (the establishment deep state) were in charge of it.

They consider "managing" things a "success", not actually solving things.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2020 11:55 AM (CqE5x)

396 380 Joe is out of the basement.
Posted by: JackStraw

I find it hilarious that they kept Joe in the basement for 2 full months, and the first thing he did after they let him out was to insult every Black voter in the country.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:52 AM (Kpl3J)

When you think about it, all he did was say in a more pointed fashion what the left has been saying for decades - that if you don't conform to "progressive" ideology and vote in lock-step for Democrats, you are not authentically black. They apply the same thing to other racial minorities and teh gheyz.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 11:55 AM (NWiLs)

397 Just FTR... no [100-comment rule] enforcement today. Appropriately. Just wondered when was the last time.
; )

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:55 AM (cHbIE)

398 I'm thinking about going to sit outside for a time before lunch, but I don't want to miss the Morning Rant.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:18 AM (rpbg1)

Perhaps it's gone AWOL ?
Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 25, 2020


*
*

If you knew me, and the climate here, and my attitude toward it, you'd know how crazy my idea is.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:56 AM (rpbg1)

399 Blew an advertising agency job interview once bcuz I had never heard term "death care industry" (funeral homes, etc) and laughed out loud first time I heard it.
Posted by: banned was a mad man kinda sorta at May 25, 2020 11:50 AM (VQO2l)


"Death Care Industry" would make a good mutual find.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 25, 2020 11:56 AM (1g7ch)

400 And women. You aren't authentically female unless you're a hard-left progtard.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 11:56 AM (NWiLs)

401 >>I find it hilarious that they kept Joe in the basement for 2 full months, and the first thing he did after they let him out was to insult every Black voter in the country.

I find it hilarious they are going to nominate Slow Joe in the first place. Forget the corruption that Trump is going to beat him to death with for a moment, Joe has been saying incredibly stupid shit for over 4 decades in DC and they are going to put him up against the King of Trolls?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2020 11:56 AM (ZLI7S)

402 48 stars in the flag's union. You can see portions of all seven stripes that are shortened to create space for the union and you can reasonably place six rows of stars in the union. Eight columns by six rows = 48 stars.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 11:53 AM (pNxlR)

W. C. Fields popped into my mind. A kid has been bothering him for some spare change.

W.C. Fields: "Okay kid, I'll give you a shot, for a quarter, how many States in the Union?"
Kid: 'WHAT Union?"
W. C. Fields: "You got a point, kid, you got a point. Here's your quarter."

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 11:56 AM (Kpl3J)

403 Buying, weekly, two page color adds in the NYT has some influence. _ Maura Moynihan


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BJmhNT4lg4

Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 11:56 AM (mWu8/)

404 "Death Care Industry" would make a good mutual find.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 25, 2020 11:56 AM (1g7ch)


Or a metal band.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 25, 2020 11:57 AM (jGlkJ)

405 Bridget Moynihan >> Maura Moynihan

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 11:57 AM (rpbg1)

406 OK, gun nuts, what kind of gun is this from the Morning Report link about paratrooper escaping the Nazis?

https://bit.ly/3c5peWB
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2020 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)


Looks a lot like a FN/Browning P-35 at first glance.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2020 11:58 AM (t+qrx)

407 Joe is out of the basement will be the dem's battle cry for the election, kinda like Elvis has left the building.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 25, 2020 11:58 AM (C1Lsn)

408 I'm sure American leftists simply hate Norman Rockwell. At least, his artwork, which purely encapsulated a slice in time of Americana. Can you imagine Omar, Tlaib or AOC appreciating those works? The reaction would be like showing Satan the cross.
Posted by: Lady in Black
---------------------------------------------------------------------

They also hate Rockwell because they hate the people who LIKE Rockwell's work.

It's the same formula for why they hate Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2020 11:58 AM (CqE5x)

409 it should be "deathcare"
like "healthcare"

gthen we'd have deathcare workers

Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 25, 2020 11:58 AM (G546f)

410 https://bit.ly/3c5peWB
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2020 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)

Mauser ?

Posted by: runner, totally guessing at May 25, 2020 11:58 AM (zr5Kq)

411 Death Care Industry would be a good death metal band name.

Posted by: freaked at May 25, 2020 11:58 AM (Tnijr)

412 394 OK, gun nuts, what kind of gun is this from the Morning Report link about paratrooper escaping the Nazis?

https://bit.ly/3c5peWB
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2020 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)

Looks a lot like a Browning or a copy thereof.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 11:59 AM (NWiLs)

413 OK, gun nuts, what kind of gun is this from the Morning Report link about paratrooper escaping the Nazis?

https://bit.ly/3c5peWB
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2020 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)


Not an expert by any means, but I'm gonna go with Browning 9mm.

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 25, 2020 11:59 AM (/VzmO)

414 OK, gun nuts, what kind of gun is this from the Morning Report link about paratrooper escaping the Nazis?

https://bit.ly/3c5peWB
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2020 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)


https://tinyurl.com/ycz7fm9d

Posted by: hogmartin at May 25, 2020 11:59 AM (t+qrx)

415 Maura Moynihan smarter than Bridget Moynihan

Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 11:59 AM (mWu8/)

416 I find it hilarious they are going to nominate Slow Joe in the first place. Forget the corruption that Trump is going to beat him to death with for a moment, Joe has been saying incredibly stupid shit for over 4 decades in DC and they are going to put him up against the King of Trolls?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2020 11:56 AM (ZLI7S)


I've thought of this a lot and the only consistent explanation is they're surrendering without owning up to it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 25, 2020 11:59 AM (y7DUB)

417 I'm here.
Got my neighbor to help me put up my flag yesterday. Seems like an omen.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 25, 2020 11:59 AM (QzF6i)

418 Boss in Baltimore
Fuck you asshoe mayor

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 11:59 AM (85Gof)

419 OK, gun nuts, what kind of gun is this from the Morning Report link about paratrooper escaping the Nazis?

https://bit.ly/3c5peWB
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2020 11:55 AM (+y/Ru)

FN Hi Power I believe.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2020 12:00 PM (Z+IKu)

420 Bear is on the loose.

Also Bob Dylan, never liked him.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 12:00 PM (gy1ev)

421 Ok I was too slow on the draw on that one.

Posted by: freaked at May 25, 2020 12:00 PM (Tnijr)

422 417 I'm here.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 25, 2020 11:59 AM (QzF6i)

So you say.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 12:00 PM (NWiLs)

423 OK, gun nuts, what kind of gun is this from the Morning Report link about paratrooper escaping the Nazis?

https://bit.ly/3c5peWB


Langrehr found his way eastward to the American front? I'll have to read this again.

Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2020 12:00 PM (n/x6m)

424
What a little dust-devil my clumsy flag-Korea comment kicked up. Sometimes some things are better left unsaid, which is what I remember after every time I speak.

I should pear my comments back to the punnery.
Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 11:53 AM (cHbIE)


No, you ought not.

For historical reference, the official flag of the United States had forty-nine stars on the blue union between July 1, 1959 and July 3, 1960, and then fifty stars after that. A star for a new state is added to the union on July 4th of the year during which it was admitted. Alaska was admitted on January 3, 1959 and Hawaii was admitted on August 21, 1959.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 12:00 PM (pNxlR)

425 Why aren't those guys wearing masks? Don't they know how dangerous that is?

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2020 12:00 PM (hku12)

426 What's so civil about Civil War?

(whistles)

Posted by: Axl Rose at May 25, 2020 12:01 PM (CqE5x)

427 >>I've thought of this a lot and the only consistent explanation is they're surrendering without owning up to it.

I still think they believed running Joe would force Trump to drop the investigations. They badly misjudged that one.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2020 12:01 PM (ZLI7S)

428 I've thought of this a lot and the only consistent explanation is they're surrendering without owning up to it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 25, 2020 11:59 AM (y7DUB)


It's designated loser election.
For them the strategy is how to position themselves in the loss.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 12:02 PM (mWu8/)

429 NGU - primogeniture, with all of it's benefits/privileges

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at May 25, 2020 12:02 PM (WZ5i4)

430 Oops /peanut

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 25, 2020 12:02 PM (WZ5i4)

431 SiriusXM just had a very solemn version of TAPS. Then actually had the host say Thanks.

Credit where it is due.

Posted by: Aetius451AD personal phone at May 25, 2020 12:03 PM (gy1ev)

432
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at May 25, 2020 11:57 AM (jGlkJ)


Is Gorilla Pundit on strike? Slept in? Or just taking the holiday off?

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 25, 2020 12:03 PM (AHq56)

433 NGU - primogeniture, with all of it's benefits/privileges

Like being your folks' punching bag for 20 years! Wheeeee!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 12:03 PM (NWiLs)

434 How did I not know you wrote a book, Muldoon? That was the perfect spot to put the Amazon Gift card I had hanging around.

Posted by: creeper at May 25, 2020 12:03 PM (XxJt1)

435 Hawaii was admitted on August 21, 1959.

Can we cancel that one?

Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2020 12:04 PM (sNpqr)

436 >>Wake Island(1942) is a favorite movie of mine.

Though the sequel "Woke Island" was terrible.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 25, 2020 12:04 PM (vuisn)

437 I was the oldest daughter of a youngest son. My title was Princess.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 25, 2020 12:04 PM (QzF6i)

438 Hawaii was admitted on August 21, 1959.

Can we cancel that one?
Posted by: Infidel


sure

Posted by: runner at May 25, 2020 12:05 PM (zr5Kq)

439 437 I was the oldest daughter of a youngest son. My title was Princess.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 25, 2020 12:04 PM (QzF6i)

*gag*

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 12:05 PM (NWiLs)

440 "Death Care Industry" would make a good mutual find.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 25, 2020 11:56 AM (1g7ch)

Or a metal band.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 25, 2020 11:57 AM (jGlkJ)


Sounds like a name only patrons of Hot Topic would find "edgy" and cool.

"My mom doesn't understand, Death Care Industry is so awesome. Did you finish your English homework yet?"

Posted by: BurtTC at May 25, 2020 12:05 PM (hku12)

441 426 What's so civil about Civil War?

(whistles)
Posted by: Axl Rose at May 25, 2020 12:01 PM (CqE5x)

My favorite name for it is The Late Unpleasantness.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2020 12:05 PM (Kpl3J)

442 Serving as how Lincoln's primary goal was to keep the Union together regardless of the ultimate fate of the slaves, I'd say the CW was driven by the assertion that the Federal government has priority over the State's.

Posted by: freaked at May 25, 2020 12:06 PM (Tnijr)

443
Is Gorilla Pundit on strike? Slept in? Or just taking the holiday off?

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 25, 2020 12:03 PM (AHq56)

Making merry.

Posted by: Northernlurker at May 25, 2020 12:06 PM (Uu+Jp)

444 Nood 'rilla

Posted by: Captain Obvious, 1st Murder Hornet Squadron at May 25, 2020 12:06 PM (4o2K3)

445 >>I've thought of this a lot and the only consistent explanation is they're surrendering without owning up to it.

I still think they believed running Joe would force Trump to drop the investigations. They badly misjudged that one.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2020 12:01 PM (ZLI7S)


Still waiting for Trump to tell them,

Can't investigate because former VP / President,
FU! I'm the current President and they have been investigating me since the day I started running.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 25, 2020 12:06 PM (1g7ch)

446 Nude Ape

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 25, 2020 12:06 PM (AHq56)

447 443
Is Gorilla Pundit on strike? Slept in? Or just taking the holiday off?

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 25, 2020 12:03 PM (AHq56)

Making merry.
Posted by: Northernlurker at May 25, 2020 12:06 PM (Uu+Jp)

It's only once a year, sir!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 25, 2020 12:07 PM (NWiLs)

448 When I was young there were still Civil war vets alive, I can remember the last one dying. Now all the Spanish American, and World War I vets are gone, and the WWII vets are fast disappearing, even my fellow Vietnam Vets are dwindling.
Never forget those who died protecting our freedoms, and never forgive those who are trying to destroy those freedoms.


Posted by: An Observation at May 25, 2020 12:07 PM (6vUlh)

449 Only daughter of only child mother and only daughter of only son. Little bro was the fav.

Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2020 12:07 PM (sNpqr)

450 442 Serving as how Lincoln's primary goal was to keep the Union together regardless of the ultimate fate of the slaves, I'd say the CW was driven by the assertion that the Federal government has priority over the State's.

Posted by: freaked at May 25, 2020 12:06 PM (Tnijr)


And Andrew Jackson

Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 12:07 PM (mWu8/)

451 Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 11:29 AM (Fc5rx)

Would it be a level that involves hamster races? I actually got really confused by that (until I figured out that was were the "whimsy" was coming in) because I grew up in the area and everything else was so familiar.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at May 25, 2020 12:07 PM (uquGJ)

452 To all our Veterans: Thank You!

To all our Fallen: Thank You for your sacrifice! It's a debt I cannot repay.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at May 25, 2020 12:07 PM (vGJY7)

453 NGU - primogeniture, with all of it's benefits/privileges

Sigh yeah..I wish he had seen me in the Navy.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 25, 2020 12:07 PM (85Gof)

454 seeing not serving

Posted by: freaked at May 25, 2020 12:07 PM (Tnijr)

455 210 Death Historian?

So the hag knitting and cackling as the heads bounced from being Guillotined?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 11:11 AM (PP3gl)

I'm a demon knitter- take it everywhere but Mass. When junior year English did "A Tale of Two Cities" and Madame DeFarge showed up, half the class turned and said 'Hey, M.- it's your mom!"

Posted by: Sal at May 25, 2020 12:07 PM (bo8pf)

456 I've thought of this a lot and the only consistent explanation is they're surrendering without owning up to it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 25, 2020 11:59 AM (y7DUB)


It's designated loser election.
For them the strategy is how to position themselves in the loss.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 25, 2020 12:02 PM (mWu8/)

With all due respect, I'm not buying this.
The theory only seems to make sense because it's hard to believe that Biden is the best candidate they have.
But guess what? He IS the best candidate they have.

He was consistently polling better than Trump in the very states the Democrats need to win, so that's why he's there. That and the black vote.

No one else has name recognition or "gravitas" (lol, i know) and none of the fantasy candidates --Michelle, Oprah, Cuban---want any any part of taking over a wrecked economy.

Joe's a mess and Trump will prevail---but the Democrats will pull out all the stops to defeat Trump.

Posted by: Axl Rose at May 25, 2020 12:07 PM (CqE5x)

457 Off Axl Rose sock

Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2020 12:08 PM (CqE5x)

458
Is Gorilla Pundit on strike? Slept in? Or just taking the holiday off?

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 25, 2020 12:03 PM (AHq56


Taking the day off to observe Pansexual and Panromantic Awareness and Visibility Day.

Which is today.

And now you know.

The More You Know ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 25, 2020 12:08 PM (pNxlR)

459 Noodus simianus major

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2020 12:08 PM (rpbg1)

460 I still think they believed running Joe would force Trump to drop the investigations. They badly misjudged that one.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2020 12:01 PM (ZLI7S)


That actually makes sense in a going full retard kind of way, what I'd expect from a Dominican skeletor like Tom Perez.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 25, 2020 12:08 PM (y7DUB)

461 Okay just wasted a few minutes reading about FerociouslySteph and its appointment to the Twitter Thought Police... geez that person makes Dog Boy in that furry documentary Fursonas seem perfectly well adjusted.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2020 12:10 PM (PP3gl)

462 Krebs: A star for a new state is added to the union on July 4th of the year during which it was admitted....

Y'don't often see a 49-star flag!!

Two new states! I was young and innocent and quite proud that the USA was still growing - I grew up in the 46th-star state, so 'recent additions' was a familiar concept.

When we drop California, Illinois, and New York back to territorial status until they get their acts cleaned up, three western Canadian provinces joining the USA would mean we don't have to redesign the flag again.

BUT NEVER MIND THAT
APE IS NOOD
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=387421

Posted by: mindful webworker at May 25, 2020 12:10 PM (cHbIE)

463 When I was young there were still Civil war vets alive, I can remember the last one dying. Now all the Spanish American, and World War I vets are gone, and the WWII vets are fast disappearing, even my fellow Vietnam Vets are dwindling.
Never forget those who died protecting our freedoms, and never forgive those who are trying to destroy those freedoms.


Posted by: An Observation at May 25, 2020 12:07 PM (6vUlh)


Looked it up---the last Civil War vet died in 1956, The last WW1 vet in 2011, the last Spanish American vet in 1993

Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2020 12:11 PM (CqE5x)

464 The last WW2 vet will die around 2039-40

Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2020 12:12 PM (CqE5x)

465 They will never admit that Lincoln and his psychotic murderous generals destroyed any hope of true State governance in favor of the Imperial Federal Government .
Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 25, 2020 11:34 AM (lbPuN)

Not going along with "psychotic, murderous generals", Lincoln is one of the greatest presidents despite instituting the draft,he suspended habeas corpus and ignored court orders; he jailed editors; he used military force to keep the Maryland legislature from meeting so that it could not vote on recession, in order to preserve the Union.

I think of these things when judges say: "the constitution is not a suicide pact".

And he made the great, enduring mistake of choosing Andrew Johnson as his VP.



Posted by: FloridaMan at May 25, 2020 12:12 PM (CuTuZ)

466 I still think they believed running Joe would force Trump to drop the investigations. They badly misjudged that one.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2020 12:01 PM (ZLI7S)

If you say it, I buy it.
But they never did understand Trump

Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2020 12:13 PM (CqE5x)

467 creeper, Muldoon has w at least two books!

the one to which he is referring is To Save Us All From Ruin

there's a link to my old review of it on my nic

the other is Muldoon's Collection of Limericks
on his blog
https://muldoonlimericks.blogspot.com


Posted by: vmom wuth link to Muldoon's WW2 book at May 25, 2020 12:13 PM (G546f)

468 Would it be a level that involves hamster races?


*********

I'm not entirely sure, since I don't talk with those three brothers, but yeah, the hamster thing, in the sense of "making light" of a serious weighty subject.

On the other hand I firmly believe my dad would have gotten a chuckle out of that. He certainly would have set me straight on the liberties I took with artillery physics and such, but in a helpful way, not scolding.

"No, no, no. If you're going to have a hamster steering an 8 inch howitzer shell he's going to have to be rearward of the midpoint, otherwise he's going to throw off the whole angle of incidence..."

That kind of thing.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 25, 2020 12:15 PM (Fc5rx)

469 Today is really not the day to re-fight the Civil War.
Or the Reformation.

Or longbows vs. crossbows.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 25, 2020 12:16 PM (CqE5x)

470 364 The town canceled the annual Memorial Day Parade and ceremony today. Still doing the distancing thing.

Instead they rolled out our two antique fire engines and a bunch of antique cars and drove the veterans all through the town. They just went by my place with sirens blaring and people lining the road to wave and honor them.

Pretty cool.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2020 11:50 AM (ZLI7S)


Not cool. Very sad.

Posted by: Sooner at May 25, 2020 12:29 PM (Fs5vw)

471 Here is a part of my seventh-great-grandfather's service record...


"...list of men belonging to the 26th regt. who agreed to tarry six weeks from the last of Dec., 1776, as returned by Col. Loammi Baldwin, dated Trenton, Jan. 1, 1777."


He was a true "Winter Soldier" as described in Thomas Paine's "The Crisis." He helped row George Washington across the Delaware. And then fought on to Assunpink Creek and Princeton.

As Paine wrote

"I consider Howe as the greatest enemy the Tories have; he is bringing a war into their country, which, had it not been for him and partly for themselves, they had been clear of. Should he now be expelled, I wish with all the devotion of a Christian, that the names of Whig and Tory may never more be mentioned; but should the Tories give him encouragement to come, or assistance if he come, I as sincerely wish that our next year's arms may expel them from the continent, and the Congress appropriate their possessions to the relief of those who have suffered in well-doing. A single successful battle next year will settle the whole. America could carry on a two years' war by the confiscation of the property of disaffected persons, and be made happy by their expulsion."

That 'single successful battle next year' took place in Princeton Jan. 3, 1777.

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at May 25, 2020 12:47 PM (EMi53)

472 #297 Deplorable
Thank you for correcting the record; myth is stronger than fact it appears.

Posted by: Emperor of Underworld. Or Underwear. I forget. at May 25, 2020 12:53 PM (AsjQP)

473 So where did Uncle Joe and Dr. Jill lay the wreath? The MFM should be all over that, continuous coverage until Uncle Joe returns home for supper. Probably by tonight it will be wall to wall coverage on tape.

Posted by: Colin at May 25, 2020 01:01 PM (UF8gN)

474 I did a search on the Biden laying wreath and google has lots of videos of the event, then I realized they were all from when he was VP!

Posted by: Colin at May 25, 2020 01:08 PM (UF8gN)

475 That Norman Rockwell painting was manifested in the near-the-ending scene in the comedy/movie "An American Carol". Very moving.

Posted by: Yngvar at May 26, 2020 08:31 AM (utkOp)

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