Appeals Court Orders Lawless Lunatic Emmet Sullivan To Explain His Erratic Actions in Flynn Case

I'm not sure if it's just routine to give a hearing about this kind of a motion, or if this indicates the court is taking it seriously.

I have a feeling it's the latter, because it's my (limited) understanding that appeals courts are very, very relunctant to take any appeals, but are especially reluctant to take interlocutory appeals, appeals about matters regarding a case short of final disposition (that is, over rulings made during a case, rather than after the thing is finally disposed of).

But I'm not sure. It might be that they're obliged to look at an appeal claiming judicial bias. But I don't think that can be the case, because pretty much every single scumbag prison lawyer eventually demands his judge be replaced.

Anyway, we'll now get to see this lunatic submit his explanations to the court as to why he believes he has hitherto undreamed-of powers to bring charges himself and appoint his own private prosecutor.

He will have every Democrat-donating lawyer in America helping him write his reply.

[A] federal appeals court Thursday accepted Michael Flynn's request to have the district judge overseeing his case removed and has ordered that judge to explain why he has gone to such great lengths to avoid the Justice Department's request to dismiss the case.

A special three-judge panel has been appointed to review the matter. A June 1 deadline has been set to respond to the request.

The motion to dismiss Sullivan as having taken off his judicial robes to act as an active litigant in the case was said by Flynn's lawyers to be as like "an umpire who has decided to steal public attention from the players and focus it on himself. He wants to pitch, bat, run bases, and play shortstop."

This recent piece from shipwreckedcrew at RedState says that the DC Circuit has recently made several rulings about the powers the deranged megalomaniac Sullivan is claiming, and those rulings all say he can't do what he's trying to do.

[T]he answer to the question before Judge Sullivan is quite simple, and it was provided by the Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit just four years ago in its decision in the case of United States v. Fokker Services.

There will be efforts to "distinguish" Fokker -- to say it's not a sufficiently similar case to control the outcome here -- and efforts to point to other decisions in the DC Circuit or other Circuit Courts of Appeal which point in a different direction for an answer to the Rule 48(a) question. But that's all a distraction and a waste of time because Judge Sullivan cannot escape Fokker. A District Court judge in the District of Columbia is obligated to follow the rulings of the Circuit Court for DC -- he does not have a choice. He cannot "dissent" and reach a decision based on his own views. He might not like or agree with the outcome that is dictated by the Fokker case, but in order to respect the oath of his office, he is duty-bound -- bound by the Constitution -- to respect and apply the law as it is established by a court of a higher status than the Court he presides in.

Update: Sydney Powell seems to think the appeals court is taking this very seriously indeed.

Posted by: Ace at 04:47 PM




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Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 04:48 PM (zr5Kq)

2 Flaming skull and pudding! It is a good day to die.

Posted by: pep at May 21, 2020 04:48 PM (T6t7i)

3 *sniffs* What does flaming pudding smell like?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 04:48 PM (A5zUN)

4 I see Sullivan as more of a catcher than a pitcher.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2020 04:48 PM (uJwgo)

5 will it turn into 64 flaming skulls in one pudding cup or will they all have their own pudding cups?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 21, 2020 04:49 PM (d7Ww2)

6 I predicted no flaming skull.

Obviously, I'm right all the time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 04:49 PM (LvTSG)

7 Sullivan is a straight up racist

normally, hides it well

Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 04:49 PM (UUUON)

8 If you know what I mean.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2020 04:49 PM (uJwgo)

9 I have a problem appeals court granting Sullivan 10 days to 'splain himself.

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 04:49 PM (zr5Kq)

10 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at May 21, 2020 04:49 PM (5hdQy)

11 A flaming skull in a pudding cup?!

And I got my first haircut in months?!

Brb. Bunk.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 21, 2020 04:49 PM (ejd/p)

12 I am betting he wont actually file a response, and then leak his response to the NYT/WAPO after it is dismissed. Showing what a "real independent judiciary" would have done to execute Flynn.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 21, 2020 04:49 PM (svbBD)

13 will this get us a victory rack as well as the flaming pudding cup?

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 21, 2020 04:49 PM (8D42x)

14 Ewwwww Flamey Skull Pudding Cup!

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (NgKpN)

15 begins, it does

Posted by: micky at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (3byMq)

16 Mmmm, pudding.

Posted by: clutch cargo at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (8B6Ng)

17 I cannot wait for Sullivan's explanation. I'll put up five bucks It's gonna be a tortured word salad that will be incomprehensible to a rational man.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (hYcqw)

18 Pudding cup skull!
I can never quit you!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (axyOa)

19 Jackpot!!!!!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (4o2K3)

20
*sniffs* What does flaming pudding smell like?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 04:48 PM (A5zUN)

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*points at Bill Cosby

Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (nw6Hr)

21 PDT refusing to wear a mask in Michigan and now this.

Posted by: Jmel at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (OeWgo)

22 Flaming skull...oh yeah!11!

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (flCdJ)

23 The pudding is on fire!

Posted by: dantesed at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (88xKn)

24 As I shared in the previous thread:

I expect Sullivan to ignore the order. He's that delusional, crazy and arrogant.

One thing I learned working in law firms is, there's no end to the arrogance of judges.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (L2ZTs)

25 I think I'm a flaming skull addict now.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (xfb67)

26

Sullivan doesn't pitch but does catch...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (Re9MM)

27
Wait for the geometric progression of skulls.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (nw6Hr)

28 Corgis called.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (qBbz7)

29 Nothing about this case is "Routine", it went off the rails long ago. But they could have dismissed without comment, and they didn't.

Sullivan's problem is that he's got to explain himself based on Law and Precedent, and Law and Precedent are against him on this one. Last thread it was noted that he explained that he got the power to do what he was doing from the "Inherent Power of the Court."

"I AM THE LAW!!!" ain't gonna fly with the other judges.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (Kpl3J)

30 NOOD hot skull

Posted by: Fortcoins at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (1vIuC)

31 willowed, but I think it's interesting:

512 https://tinyurl.com/ycwr7pcd

"What Happened in Staunton" on Tuesday? Were the Election Results a One-Off, a "Canary in the Coalmine," or What? from BlueVirginia

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One more datum that the American people are sick to death of the lockdown and aren't really blaming Republicans for it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (LvTSG)

32 Who are the "special" three judge panel?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (axyOa)

33 Judge Roy Bean called and said this Sullivan guy sure is overstepping his judicial role, isn't he.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (hku12)

34 I have a feeling it's the latter, because it's my (limited)
understanding that appeals courts are very, very relunctant to take any
appeals, but are especially reluctant to take interlocutory appeals,
appeals about matters regarding a case short of final disposition (that
is, over rulings made during a case, rather than after the thing is
finally disposed of).
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However, when the DOJ is declining to continue to prosecute a criminal case against a citizen, the urgency of the matter is heightened.

Posted by: SH at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (sX1BW)

35 He wants to pitch, bat, run bases, and play shortstop."



Hopefully he will be forced to "catch"

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (M+Lyo)

36 The other judges be like...dood

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (+b1ew)

37 We framed him, fair and square.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (BB2PS)

38 NOOD hot skull
Posted by: Fortcoins

Thanks !

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (zr5Kq)

39 will this get us a victory rack as well as the flaming pudding cup?


No, she went off to play a video game.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (gd9RK)

40 Oh wow. That's new. Let's zee how things shake out. It might mitigate the absolute collapse of judicial authority if it is resolved quickly.

Posted by: trev006 at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (49Hsx)

41 content, contemplation and the empty difference between the two jump links lulls one

Posted by: micky at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (3byMq)

42 I am afraid to hope for a good outcome from this. Sullivan is wacko, but that seems to be what the leftists want.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (b6kHD)

43 Tom Servo, I hear you in the last thread that Sullvan can't ignore anything, but he's already broken the rules so many times from what I understand.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (L2ZTs)

44 I cannot wait for Sullivan's explanation.
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It's his Precious.

"It's ours, and we wants it!"

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (4o2K3)

45 The most important part is he has been removed. I read that correctly right?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (2DOZq)

46 "The Governor and I had a great conversation"

I just bet you did.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (pnfZk)

47 It helps to post NOOD on the proper thread...At least there's herd immunity for the barrel...I hope...

Posted by: Fortcoins at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (1vIuC)

48 DC Court of Appeals? It's more likely an effort by the appeals court to give Sullivan cover for what he's doing.

$20 says This is going to SCOTUS.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (3P+Du)

49
The pudding is on fire!
Posted by: dantesed at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (88xKn)

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I heard that as sung by Kings of Leon.....

Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (nw6Hr)

50 From what I've seen, here's the shake down.

In crazy liberal land, the Sullivan amicus request is due to Sullivan's belief that the DOJ erred due to political malice by dropping the charges.

Jeffrey Toobin has a New Yorker article that spells this out, this is the same thing that Sullivan did when the DOJ handled Steven's case. Sullivan created a special counsel, if you will, that reviewed the DOJ's malfeasance.

Here, the DOJ is so infected by Barr=Trump=Orange=Bad malfeasance that the amicus briefs he's received don't even bother to explain how the facts of the case illustrate a public interest in keeping the Flynn case going.

I could go on but the upshot here is Sullivan/Gleeson/Protect Democracy/Toobin/every other nutball think this could be impeachment 2.0 where they get to fact-find why the DOJ was so infested by Barr's evil that they chose to drop the rock-solid case against the clearly evil liar, Flynn.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (aZkKl)

51 Sullivan doesn't pitch but does catch...
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer


Threadwinner.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (uJwgo)

52 10 days to file a brief in an appeal?

You usually get like months

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (aO8Gd)

53 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (q2fym)

54 Sydney Powell is AWESOME!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (bDqIh)

55

Red Letter but not skull-cup worthy.

If he refuses and gets yanked in front of a judge by the Marshall's, that would be worthy.

Posted by: *Sniff* at May 21, 2020 04:53 PM (Re9MM)

56 I expect Sullivan to ignore the order. He's that delusional, crazy and arrogant.

One thing I learned working in law firms is, there's no end to the arrogance of judges.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (L2ZTs)

He can't ignore it. If he does, then Sydney Powell automatically wins and her motion is granted, because Sullivan will have said "I have no explanation."

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 04:53 PM (Kpl3J)

57 2 Reagan 1 Trump appointed.

Posted by: Ha at May 21, 2020 04:53 PM (SJDa9)

58 10 days to file a brief in an appeal?

You usually get like months
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (aO8Gd)
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There's very little to add.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2020 04:53 PM (hYcqw)

59 Who are the "special" three judge panel?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (axyOa)


Great judges. In fact the best. You never heard of them, but they're huge! And we're so lucky to have them. So lucky.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 21, 2020 04:53 PM (hku12)

60 Is Pope Asshat going to argue Sullivan's side for him at the Appellate level? Because he sure argues it at the deplorable level...ad naseum.

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 04:53 PM (32YRo)

61 How can we dance when our skull is turning,

How can we sleep when our pudding's burning ?

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 21, 2020 04:53 PM (M+Lyo)

62 32 Who are the "special" three judge panel?

The lollipop guild.

Posted by: dantesed at May 21, 2020 04:53 PM (88xKn)

63 I prefer rice pudding. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Flaming Skull at May 21, 2020 04:53 PM (COzlW)

64 17 I cannot wait for Sullivan's explanation. I'll put up five bucks It's gonna be a tortured word salad that will be incomprehensible to a rational man.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (hYcqw)

in his order he said it was 'an inherent power of the Court'.

Uh, the only Court in the Land that has any inherent power, are the Supremes.

All other Courts INHERIT their power from the Supremes, and the Congress.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 04:53 PM (NgKpN)

65
NOOD hot skull
Posted by: Fortcoins at May 21, 2020 04:51 PM (1vIuC)

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Did you just newd on the newded newd thread ???


Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (nw6Hr)

66
I expect Sullivan to ignore the order. He's that delusional, crazy and arrogant.

One thing I learned working in law firms is, there's no end to the arrogance of judges.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (L2ZTs)
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That mostly flows downhill, though.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (dfRN6)

67 I'm not a lawyer, but I think when an appellate court responds to a writ of mandamus from a defendant, one who has already pled guilty but had not been sentenced, this is a rare thing. Damn, Emmet G. Sullivan is gonna have to explain himself to a superior court. Bet he didn't expect that.

Posted by: mrp at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (Pqytn)

68 How do you explain the unexplainable?

Sullivan has painted himself into a corner. Hope it was worth ruining his reputation over.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (ZLI7S)

69 62 32 Who are the "special" three judge panel?

The lollipop guild.
Posted by: dantesed at May 21, 2020 04:53 PM (88xKn)

Its when they first do tryouts of all the acts.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (NgKpN)

70 If you don't eat your skull, how can you have any pudding?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (xfb67)

71 TOP 70 !!!!

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (T09ml)

72 I'll say one thing; with President Trump in the White House, it never gets dull.

Posted by: iandeal at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (vgGyZ)

73 All this reminds me of the great Rose Bird fight here in California. I think that was the late 1980s.

She was defiant and a bitch right to the end.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (L2ZTs)

74 The fumes from burning pudding cup plastic will kill you instantly.


True story.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - Have you reported in to your assigned Contact Tracer today? at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (pnfZk)

75 17 I cannot wait for Sullivan's explanation. I'll put up five bucks It's gonna be a tortured word salad that will be incomprehensible to a rational man.
_______________

He's a federal judge, so he has clerks who can write the response for him.

But yeah, it'll be nonsensical, because that's the only way anybody can defend his lunatic actions.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (k4dH2)

76 Judge Sullivan has disbanded the appeals court and appointed his own.
Game. Set. Match.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (oVJmc)

77 In case anyone hasn't seen it, there is a very good explanation of why Barky had such a hardon for Flynn. Hint: his legacy, aka his ego.


https://tinyurl.com/y9mcwhhj

Posted by: pep at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (T6t7i)

78 No, she went off to play a video game.


this is no time for video games. we (and by that I mean "I") need to know if it is usual for appeal to ask for response from appellee and

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (zr5Kq)

79 >>>I expect Sullivan to ignore the order. He's that delusional, crazy and arrogant.

One thing I learned working in law firms is, there's no end to the arrogance of judges.

...

he can't do that. He'd automatically lose the motion, and the court would grant all that Powell/Flynn asked for, including his removal.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (PbpT7)

80 Hey Obama!


It looks like you got caught

Posted by: Yo! at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (q2fym)

81 Dang, for the first time in a long time I'm hungry for Sees candy. I can't even look at those things without gaining tons of weight.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (L2ZTs)

82 He will have every Democrat-donating lawyer in America helping him write his reply.

.....

So, all of them?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (CjFDo)

83 I doubt to many left wing lawyers/judges will want to support this asshoe now that an Appeals Court is looking at it...It was all fun and games until the Appeals Court stepped in..they will all run for cover like the cowards they all are

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (85Gof)

84 To wit:

the Protect Democracy amicus brief already filed with the court dismissed talk about things like changing the 302's, witholding exculpatory evidence, Giglio violations...

wait for it...how would you as an insane liberal deal with bad facts that tend to show that the DOJ mistreated the Flynn case and NOT that the doj was wrong in dropping the case?

They used scare quotes.

So, this "new" evidence, they say, doesn't meet any standard of proof, if probably cumulative, and la-di-dah, Flynn already plead guilty so everything is proven.

In fact, the idea that Sec 1001 wouldn't apply to flynn because there was no valid reason to interview Flynn they dismiss with the idea that as a law, the FBI has a clear mandate to be nationwide truth detectors.

plus, russia is a clearly hostile force, so any contact with Russia is a clearly malice-aforethought action. So, Flynn assumed the risk by talking the hostile foreign power.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (aZkKl)

85 and if the judge is really dismissed as the above says

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (zr5Kq)

86 he wrote a 92 page barn burner to keep the case going so I bet he brings the stupid with his response

Sydney Powell rocked this judge's world.

Posted by: DanMan at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (XTiHL)

87 73
All this reminds me of the great Rose Bird fight here in California. I think that was the late 1980s.



She was defiant and a bitch right to the end.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (L2ZTs)

Yes, and she said she took it like a man...while crying about it.

Posted by: jim at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (DF+pC)

88 Any man caught asking if there's immunity from the Barrel, gets a night in the box.

In the Barrel.

Posted by: eleven at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (QLPEO)

89 The motion to dismiss Sullivan as having taken off his judicial robes to act as an active litigant in the case was said by Flynn's lawyers to be as like "an umpire who has decided to steal public attention from the players and focus it on himself. He wants to pitch, bat, run bases, and play shortstop."


He should be playing Catcher in a Federal Pen. League.

Posted by: garrett at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (th7tO)

90 All this reminds me of the great Rose Bird fight here in California. I think that was the late 1980s.

She was defiant and a bitch right to the end.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (L2ZTs)
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We had a California then that would vote her the eff out of office. Not so much, anymore, I'm thinking.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (4o2K3)

91

Wait.....

We get a LEGAL thread and AtC is playing video games???


SRSLY??

Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (nw6Hr)

92 No, he can't ignore the order.

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (zr5Kq)

93

If he refuses and gets hauled in that will be Skull-Fuck 64 Worthy! Or, dare I say it, SKULL-FUCK 128 !!!!!11!!!

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (Re9MM)

94 43 Tom Servo, I hear you in the last thread that Sullvan can't ignore anything, but he's already broken the rules so many times from what I understand.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (L2ZTs)

The other reason he can't ignore it - if the 3 man panel removes him from the case, then he's just a crazy old black man sitting alone in a room talking to himself. Nothing he says or writes after that point matters any more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (Kpl3J)

95 71 TOP 70 !!!!
Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at May 21, 2020 04:54 PM (T09ml)

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HAHA!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (LvTSG)

96 Rather than a skull, shouldn't the image for the pudding cup be flaming balls?

Posted by: Monty James at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (Zqz9o)

97 Damn. With pudding cup.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 21, 2020 04:57 PM (aDI6+)

98 At least there was a response from the DC Appellate. I expected them to close ranks and pretend they never heard nuthin' 'bout no runaway judge.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:57 PM (L2ZTs)

99 94
43 Tom Servo, I hear you in the last thread that Sullvan can't ignore
anything, but he's already broken the rules so many times from what I
understand.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (L2ZTs)



The other reason he can't ignore it - if the 3 man panel removes him
from the case, then he's just a crazy old black man sitting alone in a
room talking to himself. Nothing he says or writes after that point
matters any more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (Kpl3J)

Sounds like that Supreme Court Justice back in the 70's.

Posted by: jim at May 21, 2020 04:57 PM (DF+pC)

100 Now, "Judge" Sullivan, how about you just drop those pants.....

"Judge" Sullivan: Drop?

Yup. Take 'em right off.

Posted by: Appeals Court at May 21, 2020 04:57 PM (Z+IKu)

101 I would have told him to get it done by 7AM Tuesday, and to hell with his Memorial Day weekend plans.

Posted by: Downcast at May 21, 2020 04:57 PM (qb5LQ)

102 I'm laughing at the flaming skull in the pudding.

Lovely

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at May 21, 2020 04:57 PM (l4C/z)

103 79 >>>I expect Sullivan to ignore the order. He's that delusional, crazy and arrogant.

One thing I learned working in law firms is, there's no end to the arrogance of judges.

...

he can't do that. He'd automatically lose the motion, and the court would grant all that Powell/Flynn asked for, including his removal.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (PbpT7)

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Yeah, I get the impression that federal judges can do whatever they want...until a higher court starts looking into their work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 04:57 PM (LvTSG)

104 Judge Dredd called, said this Sullivan guy is a wee bit too quick to use violence.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 21, 2020 04:57 PM (hku12)

105
he can't do that. He'd automatically lose the motion, and the court would grant all that Powell/Flynn asked for, including his removal.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (PbpT7)

by removal, do you mean removal from just Flynn's case or removal from the bench?

This guy is as nuts and corrupt as the judge in Detroit that was having an affair with a defendant in a divorce case and ordered her ex husband to jail, LOL.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (RBQSs)

106 83 I doubt to many left wing lawyers/judges will want to support this asshoe now that an Appeals Court is looking at it...It was all fun and games until the Appeals Court stepped in..they will all run for cover like the cowards they all are
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False.

Many crazy leftwingers have signed on to this. The Protect Democracy Amicus has a 2000 name long signature page.

This is RussiaHoax 2.0 or impeachment 2.0 (or 3.0?).

It's quite clear that Sullivan feels that the Barr DOJ committed malfeasance by dismissing the charges.

It's also clear that there are enough mentally ill liberals who would believe any combination of Barr=Trump=Orange=Bad bullshit so as to sign their name on to any amicus that would have the impact of hurting Flynn.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (aZkKl)

107 76 Judge Sullivan has disbanded the appeals court and appointed his own.
Game. Set. Match.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (oVJmc)

We Concur!

/slams gavel

Appeal Rejected!

Posted by: Hawaiin Judge at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (NgKpN)

108 >>>I expect Sullivan to ignore the order. He's that delusional, crazy and arrogant.



One thing I learned working in law firms is, there's no end to the arrogance of judges.



...



he can't do that. He'd automatically lose the motion, and the court
would grant all that Powell/Flynn asked for, including his removal.

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There was a time where judges took it as a mark against them to be overruled on appeal. Now not so much. He doesn't care if he loses in the end. All that matters is he kept fighting.

Posted by: SH at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (sX1BW)

109 Three judge panel hunts down jogging judge

alert Sharpton

Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (UUUON)

110 97
Damn. With pudding cup.

Pudding cup rampant, with gold oak leaves.

Posted by: pep at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (T6t7i)

111 Captain Obvious, I believe that even then, Rose Bird had to be thrown off the California court. She was flagrantly ignoring precedent and was still almost untouchable.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (L2ZTs)

112 He will have every Democrat-donating lawyer in America helping him write his reply.

.....

So, all of them?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM


*looks at law degree*

*narrows eyes*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (ejd/p)

113 Burning Skeleton Head in a Pudding Cup!!

Posted by: Weasel at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (MVjcR)

114 Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (aZkKl)

The difference is between the DOJ pursuing a case and the DOJ dismissing a case. The standard is the presumption of innocence of the defendant. That is the judge's job to make sure the defendant is provided that standard , not the opposite. Sullivan is attempting to be the prosecutor. That's not his job.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (2DOZq)

115 One of Emmet G. Sullivan's junior court clerks will likely slip the judge's reply under the DC Circuit Court's office door at about 11:59 PM, May 31, 2020.

Posted by: mrp at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (Pqytn)

116 Dang, for the first time in a long time I'm hungry for Sees candy. I can't even look at those things without gaining tons of weight.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (L2ZTs)


Scothmallows ! And butter chews !

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (M+Lyo)

117

An alternative writ of mandamus means the mandamus was granted pending the judge having a good fucking reason for acting like tool. Since that is absent in this case, he will likely receive a peremptory writ, telling him to stop fucking around in no uncertain terms.

Just having the petition for writ granted is a major win, and indicates the DC Cir is inclined to believe that Sullivan is out of line.

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (SFOr6)

118 Can you disbar a judge?

If not, can you hang one?

I may have other, similar follow up questions.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (l4C/z)

119 Also, the Gleeson independent tribunal will be Mueller 2.0 as Sullivan wants to get to the bottom of why the DOJ dropped the case. This means that Barr/Trump/Pence god knows who else needs to be deposed under oath by Gleeson to get to the bottom of this clearly political act of dropping the flynn case.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (aZkKl)

120
The appeals Court had to take it up.

Sullivan's insane assholery strikes at the very notion of a fair trial.

You can't defend yourself?

You have to plead guilty and let the state run you over or they'll destroy your kids lives?

What the actual fuck!

Sullivan needs to be covered in murder hornets then dipped in sweet dark chocolate to lock in the sweetness and flavor and murder hornet fury.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (z0XD8)

121 What is truly amazing is the criminal defense bar sitting around with their collective thumbs up their ass. The NACDL is shit, truly exposing that it's all left wing bullshit when they proclaim their devotion to civil rights.

Posted by: ejochs at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (lSFMQ)

122 Judge Reinhold called and said... well, he hasn't said anything. Phoebe Cates is at the house again, and he's been in the bathroom for an hour.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (hku12)

123 he's just a crazy old black man sitting alone in a room talking to himself. Nothing he says or writes after that point matters any more.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (Kpl3J)

I think he has already reached that goal

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (85Gof)

124 Hawaiian Judge Pakalolo puts tay on Appeals Court!

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (1g7ch)

125 Looks like he's Fokkered then.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (Mm4NK)

126 Sullivan is out?

Sullivan is OUT!?!?!?

Posted by: Just Lily at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (FuMqU)

127 We get a LEGAL thread and AtC is playing video games???


SRSLY??



I can text her but I'll tell her it was your idea. Choose wisely.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (gd9RK)

128 I came here for pudding and titties.

But mainly titties.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (MrE9D)

129 Flynn plead guilty years ago. Why didn't Sullivan sentence him then? How does a case with a guilty plea, withdrawal of which was denied, drag on this long? And why does the judge try to continue it when the prosecution itself abandons the case?


The whole thing is fixed on getting a Trump pardon, undoubtedly for political purposes. They keep trying to provoke him into it, probably because Schiff drew up the articles of impeachment years ago.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (oVJmc)

130 ace, Tom Servo and everyone else, I hope, think and pray you're right. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (L2ZTs)

131 DC Court of Appeals? It's more likely an effort by the appeals court to give Sullivan cover for what he's doing.

$20 says This is going to SCOTUS.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters


I think that is probably likely. They are going to review and make a real hash out of typical judicial behavior. Another loss for the Rule of Law.

Sullivan is really out of control, and should be reprimanded, but my guess is that he comes out of this smelling like a rose.
For a while.

The Idiocracy has almost arrived. If Biden gets elected next fall, I think it will be here.

Down the rabbit hole, or over the rainbow, life as we have known it is probably over.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at May 21, 2020 05:00 PM (vcOmj)

132 If you read Sullvan's rulings he cites local rules of court as the basis of his rulings.

It was tripe. Hopefully Sullivan tells the Appeals Court to read what he has already filed.

IOW. hoping Sullivan does the right thing and tells the appellate court to GFI.

lolol

Posted by: torabora at May 21, 2020 05:00 PM (Y274z)

133 106. The key word there was that Sullivan "feels" malfeasance took place. He can "feel" anything he wishes, that does not make it a proper legal determination.

Asking for outside comment in a criminal proceeding should be, in itself, criminal.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 21, 2020 05:00 PM (svbBD)

134 The other reason he can't ignore it - if the 3 man panel removes him
from the case, then he's just a crazy old black man sitting alone in a
room talking to himself. Nothing he says or writes after that point
matters any more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM (Kpl3J)

That's pretty much it. This case is so high profile, it has so much national attention that this panel is going to make sure there will be no valid legal criticisms of their order. They and their clerks will be triple-checking to make sure that nothing is missed.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 21, 2020 05:00 PM (0QYMt)

135 What is truly amazing is the criminal defense bar sitting around with their collective thumbs up their ass. The NACDL is shit, truly exposing that it's all left wing bullshit when they proclaim their devotion to civil rights.
Posted by: ejochs at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (lSFMQ)


Hold my beer, bitch!

Posted by: ACLU at May 21, 2020 05:00 PM (aDI6+)

136 You know if Sidney Powell was bringing a democrat appointee to fair justice Hollywood screenwriters would be presenting screenplays to studios.

John Grisham would be brought in to enhance the southern roots of the protagonist. Calls for her to run for office would be heard across the biased media.

Posted by: Redenzo at May 21, 2020 05:00 PM (E7vND)

137 >>>I have a feeling it's the latter, because it's my (limited) understanding that appeals courts are very, very relunctant to take any appeals


But it is right there in their name!

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 21, 2020 05:00 PM (1g7ch)

138 >>he can't do that. He'd automatically lose the motion, and the court would grant all that Powell/Flynn asked for, including his removal.


OVERRULED!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at May 21, 2020 05:01 PM (th7tO)

139
An alternative writ of mandamus



Wow!

Can't you just call them gay anymore?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 21, 2020 05:01 PM (z0XD8)

140 awwwww,

one of my patients just brought me a big bouquet of spanish lavendar flowers from her garden. so sweet!

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 21, 2020 05:01 PM (d7Ww2)

141 The idea that the Judge wants to convict Flynn of criminal Contempt of Court, for perjuring himself, by recanting on his coerced confession?

That's Catch 22 territory.

Its like being accused of obstruction of Justice for defending yourself.

Oh, wait, we've already seen that recently.

It would be like a Governor giving an unconstitutional order, then when you don't follow it, fines and jails you.

Oh, wait, seen that too recently.

Posted by: Hawaiin Judge at May 21, 2020 05:01 PM (NgKpN)

142 We get a LEGAL thread and AtC is playing video games???


SRSLY??


I can text her but I'll tell her it was your idea. Choose wisely.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (gd9RK)

------

Damn. Just asking questions boss.

The escalated to certain death quickly.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 05:01 PM (nw6Hr)

143 Have Sullivan removed from the Bench totaly

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 21, 2020 05:01 PM (FLiOE)

144 138 >>he can't do that. He'd automatically lose the motion, and the court would grant all that Powell/Flynn asked for, including his removal.


OVERRULED!
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at May 21, 2020 05:01 PM (th7tO)

=========

"It's a tax."
-John Roberts, without enthusiasm

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:01 PM (LvTSG)

145 I saw Murder Hornet Fury open for Fine Young Cannibals at the Gorge in '92.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 21, 2020 05:01 PM (4o2K3)

146 One thing's for sure about Sullivan's response:

Every horizontal line of text will begin with a letter that by the bottom of the page spells out his true feelings... :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (L2ZTs)

147

If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate!

Posted by: Zap Sullivan, Secret Court Justice at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (Re9MM)

148 Of note from the order:



1. The government is invited, not ordered, to respond.

2. The Fokker precedent is specifically cited.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (R0g2l)

149 It's not that he's just abusing his power, these Deep State button man's theory is completely bug fuck insane.


The idea that a defendant cannot retract his guilty plea or face a perjury charge is ludicrous on it's face but that he can then emanitze a prosecutor to essentially rubber stamp this insane theory, should have had all nine SCOTUS justices storming the court room to rebuke this ass clown, RGB swooping in on her hover chair.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (T+XCu)

150
I have a problem appeals court granting Sullivan 10 days to 'splain himself.

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 04:49 PM


ikr?

should have been ten minutes

& that's being generous

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (DUIap)

151 Unindicted co-conspirator Judge Emmet Sullivan.

Posted by: RICO aka msm/dnc/bureaucracy/and now judiciary at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (x6XkS)

152 by removal, do you mean removal from just Flynn's case or removal from the bench?

This guy is as nuts and corrupt as the judge in Detroit that was having an affair with a defendant in a divorce case and ordered her ex husband to jail, LOL.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 04:58 PM (RBQSs)

It would just be removal from the case - but that would be a huge slap, I can't remember the last time that happened to a Federal Judge. It's a clear vote of No Confidence from the Court above him; but no Federal Judge can be removed except by Impeachment. Or Sweet, Merciful Death.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (Kpl3J)

153 he is duty-bound -- bound by the Constitution -- to respect and apply the law as it is established by a court of a higher status than the Court he presides in.


His own appellate court, right? He is free to not feel bound by the rulings of, say, the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, I thought.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (yQpMk)

154 118 Can you disbar a judge?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You can impeach one, but what's the use? It only allows them to run for congress.
Paging Alcee Hastings. Mr. Hastings Paging Mr. Hastings

Posted by: Boomers remember stuff at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (vI+F1)

155 Rather than a skull, shouldn't the image for the pudding cup be flaming balls?
Posted by: Monty James at May 21, 2020 04:56 PM


Hey, we're a family-friendl...

Nah, I couldn't even type that with a straight face.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (ejd/p)

156 105>>>by removal, do you mean removal from just Flynn's case or removal from the bench?

The panel hearing this case on the Appellate Court could only remove him from the case. Congress would be the only body with the power to remove him from the bench.

Posted by: Octochicken at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (FXSJA)

157 114 Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (aZkKl)

The difference is between the DOJ pursuing a case and the DOJ dismissing a case. The standard is the presumption of innocence of the defendant. That is the judge's job to make sure the defendant is provided that standard , not the opposite. Sullivan is attempting to be the prosecutor. That's not his job.
Posted by: Kilroy

.....................
....................

You're not wrong. But you're maybe missing the point.

Yes, the appeals court is right to do this.

But what is really going on in Sullivan's mind here is what I'm saying...the DOJ commmitted evil by dropping the Flynn case.

Gleeson will be Mueller 2.0 and get to the bottom of the evil malfeasance of the Trump admin in dropping the Flynn case.

The protect democracy amicus shows that crazy insane libs think the miasmatic haze of orangemanbad is so pervasive that any accusation of bad-doing-stuff against Barr's DOJ is by definition proven. It's in the 'public interest' to not drop the flynn prosecution.

sullivan agrees, he created Gleeson who will be a factfinding judge/prosecutor who will get to the bottom of all this in a few years time.

Toobin illustrates this plan in his article, this is just another Sullivan crusade like when sullivan cracked down on DOJ misbehavior like with Ted Stevens.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (aZkKl)

158 Those Fokkers were Messerschmitts!

Posted by: Dad of Six at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (LKJk6)

159 Someone commented in the last thread that the Beatles never did a country song, and someone else brought up "Act Naturally." On that one Lennon even sounds like Buck Owens. You can't get much more country than that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (rpbg1)

160 We get a LEGAL thread and AtC is playing video games???


SRSLY??


I can text her but I'll tell her it was your idea. Choose wisely.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 21, 2020 04:59 PM (gd9RK)


Live a little

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (M+Lyo)

161 see update-- Sydney Powell thinks this is pretty serious.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (PbpT7)

162 2 or a better day to watch your enemy die

Posted by: Skip at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (ZCEU2)

163 The Left never just takes their medicine. You have to force it down their throat.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (2DOZq)

164 but in order to respect the oath of his office, he is duty-bound -- bound by the Constitution -- to respect and apply the law as it is established by a court of a higher status than the Court he presides in

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Posted by: Every single 0bama judge at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (Il+s2)

165 But I'm not sure. It might be that they're obliged to look at an appeal claiming judicial bias. But I don't think that can be the case, because pretty much every single scumbag prison lawyer eventually demands his judge be replaced.


But how often does the prosecutor say that the case is over and the judge throws a temper tantrum?

Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (Z7lwY)

166

Most judges, when faced with an alternaitve writ, will withdraw the offending order. That's unlikely here, given what we have seen from Sullivan, but he cannot ignore the order. He is bound by DC Circuit commands.

Mandamus is a command from a superior tribunal to an inferior one. Sullivan's only choice is to have someone contest the issue (I've never seen a judge do it himself) or withdraw the order.

Failure to do so would constitute contempt of the DC Circuit and might devolve into jail time for Sullivan, depending on the federal contempt statute for appellate courts (which I am not familiar with)

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (SFOr6)

167 >>>Someone commented in the last thread that the Beatles never did a country song, and someone else brought up "Act Naturally." On that one Lennon even sounds like Buck Owens

ringo, no?

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (PbpT7)

168 OT: But I'm getting a little tired of Philip Marlowe being a sexless monk. Fucking guy needs to get laid, it's giving him a weird passive aggressive complex with attractive, sexually willing women.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (l4C/z)

169 143 Have Sullivan removed from the Bench totaly
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 21, 2020 05:01 PM (FLiOE)

In a less corrupt nation we could, but sadly, that can only happen today with Nancy Pelosi's approval.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:04 PM (Kpl3J)

170 We have to get rid of these Trump judges like Sullivan

they are disgraceful

Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 05:04 PM (UUUON)

171 imp: jail time for Sullivan??
I'll be in my bunk...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:04 PM (L2ZTs)

172 Judge Sullivan explains - Flynn is a traitor.
Appeals Court - Oh, then as you were Judge Sullivan.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 21, 2020 05:04 PM (1g7ch)

173 Anything is justified because Trump.

Posted by: steevy at May 21, 2020 05:04 PM (KNsKs)

174 Congress would be the only body with the power to remove him from the bench.

----

Senate or House.???

Im embarrassed I dont know this already. Im guessing Senate.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (nw6Hr)

175
Sullivan is accusing Flynn of perjury for reversing his position regarding his plea. But Sullivan did exactly the same thing by denying amicus briefs earlier in the proceedings and now allowing them. So, is Sullivan going to prosecute himself for perjury? Will he be the judge in his own case?

Posted by: Richard Head at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (rQ/Vt)

176 The difference is between the DOJ pursuing a case and the DOJ dismissing a case. The standard is the presumption of innocence of the defendant. That is the judge's job to make sure the defendant is provided that standard , not the opposite. Sullivan is attempting to be the prosecutor. That's not his job.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here


Indeed, it is NOT his job to act as prosecutor.

And yet, he has.

So where are we here? This was a totally contrived case, with Flynn's first counsel in cahoots with the Prosecutor to nail Flynn to the wall. Of course, they counselled Flynn to plead guilty, it was all a sham.

This is the real power of the State when it is aligned against an individual. Regardless of guilt or innocence, Flynn will continue to be persecuted.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (vcOmj)

177 10 DAYS?!

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Two Weeks at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (Y274z)

178 154 118 Can you disbar a judge?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

You can impeach one, but what's the use? It only allows them to run for congress.
Paging Alcee Hastings. Mr. Hastings Paging Mr. Hastings
Posted by: Boomers remember stuff


You can prevent an impeached person from holding future public office if it's part of the eventual finding/verdict.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (uJwgo)

179 79 >>>I expect Sullivan to ignore the order. He's that delusional, crazy and arrogant.

One thing I learned working in law firms is, there's no end to the arrogance of judges.

...

he can't do that. He'd automatically lose the motion, and the court would grant all that Powell/Flynn asked for, including his removal.

Posted by: ace

--------------
......................


It's true. Sullivan is delusional but he's also aspirational.

Sullivan wants to create a min-special prosecutor in Gleeson who will fact find as to why Barr dropped the case.

This silly monkey circus shitshow needs to end by simply ordering the Flynn case dismissed, unless the DC Ct Appeals wants to deal with 5 years of fighting the DOJ on why Gleeson doesn't have the authority to depose Barr and trump and who knows who else.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (aZkKl)

180 Sullivan thought Mandamus was a character in Roots.

Posted by: Alex What's My Price at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (2oYEN)

181 Kilroy, you have to force it down their throat and then tie a knot in their esophagus to keep it down.

I hope Flynn has really good security...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (L2ZTs)

182 The Tucker compilation earlier said it best, but this Flynn case is the most important indicator of my own personal distrust of the US government in my substantial life time.

Posted by: navybrat, largely at large at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (w7KSn)

183 Ringo > Buck Owens....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (Z+IKu)

184 The search terms 'Busty Pissed off' bear surprising fruit:

https://tinyurl.com/y8vhtpf3

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (A5zUN)

185

Lady in the Lake!

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (Re9MM)

186 A court of appeals grants a mandamus only after the judge has had an opportunity to respond.



that answers my question

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (zr5Kq)

187 30 NOOD hot skull
Posted by: Fortcoins

I think this is Brandi Chastain's shirtless sock taking a victory lap. Not a real nood.

Posted by: Downcast at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (qb5LQ)

188 see update-- Sydney Powell thinks this is pretty serious.

Posted by: ace
---------

Why would she say otherwise?

Just a sidenote on all this, kind of amazing to see a lawyer live tweet her client's defense. Have we seen this before? Is this something we are going to see more of? At what point, will the ABA say this is unethical?

Posted by: SH at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (sX1BW)

189 When you seen a court make another court jump so fast?
Now will he or is this some going down with the ship?

Posted by: Skip at May 21, 2020 05:06 PM (ZCEU2)

190 Is Sullivan the tip of the iceberg of horribly political, racist judges

or just a snowflake on the tip ?

Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 05:06 PM (UUUON)

191 When this is over Powell needs to file an ethics complaint against Sullivan.

Posted by: Ha at May 21, 2020 05:06 PM (SJDa9)

192 I don't know anything about the law, but I'm glad to hear that Sullivan "can't escape Fokker". I hope Fokker catches Sullivan and I hope he does what's expected of a Fokker when he catches him.

Posted by: Dave at May 21, 2020 05:06 PM (mXUCw)

193 Didn't Mandamus fight Gamelon?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:06 PM (+7yf7)

194 Mmmmm, you see... it's the pudding, and the skull, and the flames....


Oh, and can I offer you a drink?



Posted by: Bill Cosby at May 21, 2020 05:06 PM (jjaLl)

195

He belongs in a nuthouse. He jumped off the deep end, holding hands with Mika a long time ago.

Thelma and Louise Sullivan and Brzezinski

Rated LOL

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2020 05:06 PM (Saar8)

196 The Gaylord Fokker case ... wasn't there a movie about that?

Posted by: illiniwek at May 21, 2020 05:07 PM (Cus5s)

197 sullivan agrees, he created Gleeson who will be a factfinding judge/prosecutor who will get to the bottom of all this in a few years time.

Toobin illustrates this plan in his article, this is just another Sullivan crusade like when sullivan cracked down on DOJ misbehavior like with Ted Stevens.
Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (aZkKl)

You could be right on this - the problem for Sullivan is that he's setting himself up as the Witchfinder General, and there is no support in Law for him to usurp that much power.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:07 PM (Kpl3J)

198 DC Appeals, SCOTUS, etc. have to know that they are treading on thin ice with the public, acting as partisan inquisitors, blatantly flouting established precedent, and attempting to deliver ends justify the means outcomes.


Once the social contract is broken, for which, the respect for the rule of law is foundational, there is a long row to hoe to get back to a place where people are not overwhelmingly motivated by rational self-interest to take what they can, regardless of the impact on their fellow man.


I hate, hate, hate the left for bringing us to this point. And I am not one bit apologetic or remorseful for it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2020 05:07 PM (KnJdm)

199 This is outrageous! I'm calling twitter right away to get these judge orders cancelled!

Posted by: Mika Brezinski, Starfucker Wannabe! at May 21, 2020 05:07 PM (NVYyb)

200 It would just be removal from the case - but that would be a huge slap, I can't remember the last time that happened to a Federal Judge. It's a clear vote of No Confidence from the Court above him; but no Federal Judge can be removed except by Impeachment. Or Sweet, Merciful Death.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (Kpl3J)

Thanks Tom and others for the explanation.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 05:07 PM (RBQSs)

201 188 Just a sidenote on all this, kind of amazing to see a lawyer live tweet her client's defense. Have we seen this before? Is this something we are going to see more of? At what point, will the ABA say this is unethical?
Posted by: SH at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (sX1BW)

========

How different is it from a lawyer talking to the press on the courthouse steps after every motion in a high profile case?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:07 PM (LvTSG)

202 79 >>>I expect Sullivan to ignore the order. He's that delusional, crazy and arrogant.

One thing I learned working in law firms is, there's no end to the arrogance of judges.

...

he can't do that. He'd automatically lose the motion, and the court would grant all that Powell/Flynn asked for, including his removal.



Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (PbpT7)



I suspect he'd love the martyr moniker. Removed for demanding justice be carried out against this corrupt president owned by Russia. The masturbation sessions to him on twitter would be disgusting.

Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2020 05:07 PM (Z7lwY)

203 Posted by: Bill Cosby at May 21, 2020 05:06 PM (jjaLl)

Keep your spiked Gallo to yourself, Jell-O pusher. Ace is a Hunt's Snack Pack guy!

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:07 PM (L2ZTs)

204 Sullivan is accusing Flynn of perjury for reversing his position regarding his plea.
--------

A novel new theory that the entry of a plea is made under oath.

Posted by: SH at May 21, 2020 05:07 PM (sX1BW)

205 Nothing too surprising. As others have noted, the composition of the 3 judge panel will be interesting and probably determinative.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 21, 2020 05:07 PM (ja/kn)

206 Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (A5zUN)

Moar plz.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 05:08 PM (MrE9D)

207 151 Unindicted co-conspirator Judge Emmet Sullivan.
Posted by: RICO aka msm/dnc/bureaucracy/and now judiciary at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (x6XkS)


Howard Law graduate Emmet Sullivan.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 21, 2020 05:08 PM (VpTlZ)

208 Sullivan is going to answer that he is standing up for the rule of law and doing what the corrupt DoJ would not do.

The three judge panel will say "oh well okay then."

Posted by: Jerry Nadler at May 21, 2020 05:08 PM (ZfRYq)

209 see update-- Sydney Powell thinks this is pretty serious.
Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (PbpT7)

You have to hand it to her, she is pretty tenacious

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 21, 2020 05:08 PM (M+Lyo)

210 >>>168 OT: But I'm getting a little tired of Philip Marlowe being a sexless monk. Fucking guy needs to get laid, it's giving him a weird passive aggressive complex with attractive, sexually willing women.

he makes out with the Vivien Ravenwood broad. I think there's an implication there.

but yeah, he's mostly sexless. His defining trait is that he's too pure for the age he's in, like that knight in the painting at the Ravenwood house. He says something like, "The world has no more need for knights."

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:08 PM (PbpT7)

211 Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (A5zUN)

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Damn,

James Wood looks like a baby in that pic.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 05:08 PM (nw6Hr)

212 The panel hearing this case on the Appellate Court
could only remove him from the case. Congress would be the only body
with the power to remove him from the bench.


Posted by: Octochicken at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (FXSJA)

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It's my understanding that there a several levels of discipline that superior courts can inflict on errant district judges. Things like reducing his/her trial schedule to zero, I think.

Posted by: mrp at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (Pqytn)

213 Sullivan is accusing Flynn of perjury for reversing his position regarding his plea. But Sullivan did exactly the same thing by denying amicus briefs earlier in the proceedings and now allowing them. So, is Sullivan going to prosecute himself for perjury? Will he be the judge in his own case?
Posted by: Richard Head

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right. I forgot to mention this.

But this is proof of the batshit insane world Sullivan/Gleeson and every liberal who believes that Sullivan should get to the bottom of why the DOJ dropped the Flynn case.

The idea that Flynn perjured himself in admitting guilt is, of course, fucking stupid.

Also, if you read the plea bargain statement of facts, what flynn admitted to doing is 2 sentences long. more or less, whatever.

The DOJ's point is that even if everything else about malfeasance on the part of VanGrack is swept aside, these factual statements don't count as a 1001 violation.

Of course, there's case law saying that no, the judge doesn't prosecute perjury and it's not within his contempt powers.

so that's that.

But it does show his state of mind. He's crazy. He's invited every crazy lliberal to come in and express their latest insane conpiracy theory that Flynn=Barr=Trump=Orange=Bad and therefore the DOJ misbehaved in dismissing Flynn's case.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (aZkKl)

214 Laws? You are fucking kidding me.

Law has no part in this holy war.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (+fPHo)

215 Sydney Powell - The Honey Badger is her spirit animal.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (+7yf7)

216 I don't know anything about the law, but I'm glad to hear that Sullivan "can't escape Fokker". I hope Fokker catches Sullivan and I hope he does what's expected of a Fokker when he catches him.
Posted by: Dave


Yeah, but dees Fokkers was flying Messerschmitts!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (vcOmj)

217

imp: jail time for Sullivan??
I'll be in my bunk...
Posted by: qdpsteve



Well, the penalty for ignoring a court order is a contempt citation, and that is what he would be facing if he attempted to ignore it.

There's no way to ignore it, though, since the presiding judge of the DC District Court would remove Sullivan (as is his or her right) if he attempted to litigate the case further.

The system gives judges a lot of power, WITHIN THE SYSTEM. Once judges start freeballing it, they are as moral as we . . . . .

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (SFOr6)

218 It's been an eventful couple of weeks

Posted by: Tuna at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (gLRfa)

219 You could be right on this - the problem for Sullivan is that he's setting himself up as the Witchfinder General, and there is no support in Law for him to usurp that much power.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:07 PM (Kpl3J)


I'll allow it

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (ZfRYq)

220 121 What is truly amazing is the criminal defense bar sitting around with their collective thumbs up their ass. The NACDL is shit, truly exposing that it's all left wing bullshit when they proclaim their devotion to civil rights.
_________________

Yes, if anybody ever had their civil rights violated it's Michael Flynn.

All this guy did was do his job, and say that he was going to do what the rest of us have been begging for somebody to do: return some sanity and accountability to the federal government.

And for that, Michael Flynn was illegally spied on, framed by the FBI, lied to by his own lawyers (who soaked him for millions in legal fees as they screwed him over), slandered and libeled by the media and by crooks like Barack Obama, bankrupted, had his family threatened, and put through a years-long, Kafka-esque nightmare of legal proceedings with an insanely hyper-partisan judge who publicly called him a traitor.

Mike Flynn deserves a medal and a parade, and Christopher Wray should be hanging by his thumbs over hot coals.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (k4dH2)

221 Sidney Powell is a great American.

Posted by: mrp at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (Pqytn)

222
Just a sidenote on all this, kind of amazing to see a lawyer live
tweet her client's defense. Have we seen this before? Is this something
we are going to see more of? At what point, will the ABA say this is
unethical?


How is it different from having a press conference on the courthouse steps?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (oVJmc)

223 How different is it from a lawyer talking to the press on the courthouse steps after every motion in a high profile case?

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I suppose not different at all. That is the right analogy. Its just the first time I recall seeing a defense lawyer use twitter as much as she does.

Posted by: SH at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (sX1BW)

224 which Marlowe book are you on?

I just downloaded a few to re-read. I also just saw Farewell My Lovely with Robert Mitchum. I liked the movie a lot more than I remembered liking the book. I should reread that.


Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (PbpT7)

225 When this is over Powell needs to file an ethics complaint against Sullivan.
Posted by: Ha at May 21, 2020 05:06 PM (SJDa9)

When this is over, Sullivan needs to file an ethics complaint against Sullivan.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (Z+IKu)

226 Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be immediately denied without comment. HA!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (Kpl3J)

227 Next up: Star Chamber.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (VpTlZ)

228 The pudding is on fire!
Posted by: dantesed at May 21, 2020 04:50 PM (88xKn)

I heard that as sung by Kings of Leon.....
Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 04:52 PM (nw6Hr)


I heard it as the Bloodhound Gang.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (z79tQ)

229 I've missed the pudding cup!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (ptqGC)

230 Flaming skull in a triple layer pudding cup. I think I need a drink.

Posted by: Tuna at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (gLRfa)

231 Judges: Trump, Obama, Bush appointed. Nice.

Posted by: LASue at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (Ed8Zd)

232 Toobin illustrates this plan in his article, this is just another Sullivan crusade like when sullivan cracked down on DOJ misbehavior like with Ted Stevens.
Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:02 PM (aZkKl)

You could be right on this - the problem for Sullivan is that he's setting himself up as the Witchfinder General, and there is no support in Law for him to usurp that much power.


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oh, after I read Toobin's insane article, I know I'm right.

And, like costanza might have said, "wait, I wasn't supposed to do that?" Sullivan can do what he wants, he thinks, until someone stops him.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (aZkKl)

233 You can prevent an impeached person from holding future public office if it's part of the eventual finding/verdict.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (uJwgo)

Really? But people in Federal Penitentiaries can conduct a campaign and run for office, as was demonstrated by the late , great Jim Traficant.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (RBQSs)

234 I've missed the pudding cup!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (ptqGC)


It happens.

Just try harder next time.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 21, 2020 05:11 PM (t+qrx)

235 Someone commented in the last thread that the Beatles never did a country song, and someone else brought up "Act Naturally." On that one Lennon even sounds like Buck Owens

ringo, no?
Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020


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Was it? The only voice of the four I can readily ID is McCartney's, and that's partly because we also get him in Wings.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:11 PM (rpbg1)

236 I'm not going to be too excited by the "what are you doing?" order, its just asking the judge to officially and in legal terms explain his intent and thinking.

As I understand it, the Judge Sullivan is doign this:

When the prosecutor and defense both want to drop a case, usually that ends it. But, as I understand it, at the federal level, the judge can choose to keep it going if they wish to (but almost never do). This option exists for obvious reasons: politics might drive a prosecutor to drop a case (Hillary) or corruption (mob cases).

The judge then can appoint another prosecutor to try the case, but he has to give good reason and have a reasonable justification for doing so. Hence, Sullivan found a friendly wokester judge to look over the case and declare that it should continue (the "amicus" guy).

With that justification he then can pick someone to carry on with the case even after the DOJ dropped it and explained why with very good cause.

But he's deliberately slow walking this, saying it will be September before the prosecutor is ready etc. Why? If Trump loses well its game on baby! Plus, this might delay some actions by the Trump administration and further carries the Flynn thing over into the late election season which might hurt Trump.

So its all grossly, clearly political, and Sullivan obviously has a blatant bias and even hatred toward Flynn which he shows each day.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:11 PM (KZzsI)

237 When this is over Powell needs to file an ethics complaint against Sullivan.
Posted by: Ha at May 21, 2020 05:06 PM (SJDa9)


Oh, we will get right on that.

Posted by: Speaker Pelosi at May 21, 2020 05:11 PM (ZfRYq)

238 165 But I'm not sure. It might be that they're obliged to look at an appeal claiming judicial bias. But I don't think that can be the case, because pretty much every single scumbag prison lawyer eventually demands his judge be replaced.


But how often does the prosecutor say that the case is over and the judge throws a temper tantrum?
Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (Z7lwY)

Especially when it turns out there is NO evidence that any crime ever happened.

The Government cannot produced the transcript of the Phone call in question. They say they don't have it.

They also cannot produce the original 302 FBI report.

Given this, its clear they LIED to Gen. Flynn to get a confession.

Interesting Factoid. 97% of Federal Cases, are plead bargains.

DOJ has a 97% successful prosecution rate.

Kinda makes ya go, hmmmmm

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:11 PM (NgKpN)

239 I've missed the pudding cup!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (ptqGC)



It happens.



Just try harder next time.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 21, 2020 05:11 PM (t+qrx)


Oh, you.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 21, 2020 05:11 PM (ptqGC)

240 The system gives judges a lot of power, WITHIN THE SYSTEM. Once judges start freeballing it, they are as moral as we . . . . .
Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (SFOr6)

I would say, they become as MORTAL as we.

Sullivan is facing his Gotterdammerung.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:11 PM (Kpl3J)

241 Sullivan just got an email from Hillary:

"Hey Sullivan, you need any help taking care of Flynn? I can make things happen, if you know what I mean. xoxoxo"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:11 PM (L2ZTs)

242 A great many judges are drunk on their own power. Driven mad by it, even.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (NWiLs)

243 "Just a sidenote on all this, kind of amazing to see a lawyer live tweet
her client's defense. Have we seen this before? Is this something we are
going to see more of? At what point, will the ABA say this is
unethical?"

I have no clue, BUT the FBI has made a habit of leaking/fabricating to influence and/or create a case. Obama's DoJ did as well, I think. It's the new normal, but has only been "legal" for Dems.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (Cus5s)

244
I just downloaded a few to re-read. I also just saw Farewell My Lovely with Robert Mitchum. I liked the movie a lot more than I remembered liking the book. I should reread that.


Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020


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Ace, try also his novelette "Red Wind." All of the Marlowe flavor in a smaller space.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (rpbg1)

245 Just a sidenote on all this, kind of amazing to see a lawyer live
tweet her client's defense. Have we seen this before? Is this something
we are going to see more of? At what point, will the ABA say this is
unethical?

How is it different from having a press conference on the courthouse steps?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles


She should be banned from Twitter!!!!!

Posted by: Mika Brezinski, noted psychopath at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (vcOmj)

246 If Powell can make this go away, maybe she needs a promotion. SCOTUS material?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (L2ZTs)

247 Do the pudding flavors hold any particular meaning?

Posted by: Tuna at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (gLRfa)

248 Someone commented in the last thread that the Beatles never did a country song, and someone else brought up "Act Naturally." On that one Lennon even sounds like Buck Owens

ringo, no?
Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020

Ringo was a huge country music fan

But aside from "Act Naturally", The Beatles incorporated country music into a lot of their early songs such as "Run For Your Life"

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (CqE5x)

249 Sullivan has his out.

He has to be able to point to someone else and say, "But for those meddling kids, I would have gotten away with it!"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (WEBkv)

250

A court of appeals grants a mandamus only after the judge has had an opportunity to respond.



that answers my question
Posted by: runner


As a practical matter, yes, but that's not entirely true. THere are two kinds of writs issued in response to a petition for mandamus. Alternative (gay, lol)and peremptory. Peremptory is simply a flat order to do what the writ commands, no chance for argument. Those are only issued in the most clear-cut of circumstances. Arguably, this is one of those, but since it is high profile and politically charged, they give the parties below a chance to argue the merits of the writ.

Alternative writs are typically worded, "either do X, or show cause why not within __ days." It's really a halfway victory for Flynn already.

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (SFOr6)

251 Is it too soon for the Victory Rack?

Posted by: guy who wants to see a Victory Rack at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (SnLSx)

252 Cyd Charisse is a great American.

Posted by: eleven at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (QLPEO)

253 What does the pudding signify? Or are we just being creative?

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (AHq56)

254 I've missed the pudding cup!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (ptqGC)


Same here.

It's fun to see.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (Saar8)

255 209 see update-- Sydney Powell thinks this is pretty serious.
Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (PbpT7)

You have to hand it to her, she is pretty tenacious

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 21, 2020 05:08 PM (M+Lyo)


She pegged Weissmann on the Enron case.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (eF1II)

256 251 Is it too soon for the Victory Rack?
Posted by: guy who wants to see a Victory Rack at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (SnLSx)

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AtC already gave us one for Flynn. Does she need to do a second?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (LvTSG)

257 Moar plz.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 05:08 PM (MrE9D)

*sigh* Well, it goes against my nature, but fine:

https://tinyurl.com/y9l23cwh

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (A5zUN)

258 How come no one told me I could request a second look at OJ?

Posted by: Judge Ito at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (2DOZq)

259 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:11 PM (KZzsI)

Problem is that there is a case called Fokker, which says that the Court CANNOT do what you described.

That the court cannot become the prosecutor.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (NgKpN)

260 >>It's true. Sullivan is delusional but he's also aspirational.

>>Sullivan wants to create a min-special prosecutor in Gleeson who will fact find as to why Barr dropped the case.

I'm sure that's exactly what Sullivan wants. I look forward to him outlining where in the law he has the power to do this.

Yea, judges have a lot of power but they are not omnipotent.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 21, 2020 05:14 PM (ZLI7S)

261 I hope the appeals court smacks Judge Sullivan into next week so hard that he decides to step down and retire with his remaining thought. Go Trump, drain the swamp, MAGA!

Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at May 21, 2020 05:14 PM (W92b9)

262 The judge then can appoint another prosecutor to try the case, but he has to give good reason and have a reasonable justification for doing so. Hence, Sullivan found a friendly wokester judge to look over the case and declare that it should continue (the "amicus" guy).


Yeah, no.

The amicus guy is not a prosecutor. He's an amicus. He is not prosecuting anything.

He is - at the judges direction - presenting arguments against the DoJ dropping the case.

Which is mainly just to eat up the clock and keep Flynn in the box.

Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 05:14 PM (ZfRYq)

263

... I guess I should read the post.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2020 05:14 PM (Saar8)

264 Do the pudding flavors hold any particular meaning?
Posted by: Tuna at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (gLRfa)


Chocolate = for the moral groundedness of ultimate justice
Vanilla = for the Horde's purity of essence

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:14 PM (L2ZTs)

265 255 She pegged Weissmann on the Enron case.


Phrasing?

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 21, 2020 05:14 PM (AHq56)

266 When the prosecutor and defense both want to drop a case, usually that ends it. But, as I understand it, at the federal level, the judge can choose to keep it going if they wish to (but almost never do). This option exists for obvious reasons: politics might drive a prosecutor to drop a case (Hillary) or corruption (mob cases).

chris taylor

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if you read the protect democracy brief, you get the idea that dropping the case by the judge's consent could do such a thing in the public interest.

maybe. but not really.

Rule 48 is to protect against DOJ do-overs should they screw up a case. dropping the case to start over.

The crazy leftist brain-borg thinks there's a public exception to it.

They also think that Barr=Trump=Orange=Bad is so readily apparent, there's actually no need to show why the DOJ misbehaved in dropping the Flynn case.

you see? It's in the public interest to not drop the case because orangemanbad.

what sullivan himself wants via Gleeson is an explanation as to why Barr is so evil as to drop the case...to personally order the DOJ to drop a clear cut case WRT flynn.

very cuckoo.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:14 PM (aZkKl)

267 AtC already gave us one for Flynn. Does she need to do a second?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (LvTSG)

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*cough third cough*

Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (nw6Hr)

268 Sullivan is accusing Flynn of perjury for reversing his position regarding his plea. But Sullivan did exactly the same thing by denying amicus briefs earlier in the proceedings and now allowing them. So, is Sullivan going to prosecute himself for perjury? Will he be the judge in his own case?
Posted by: Richard Head at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (rQ/Vt)


Even more basic, perjury is a criminal offense. Although a judge can cite someone for contempt of court (not abiding by court rules, orders) he/she can't prosecute and sentence someone for a criminal matter, even if it happened in their courtroom. All the judge can do is refer the criminal case to the DOJ or other law enforcement.

Posted by: LASue at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (Ed8Zd)

269 Hmmmmm ... will Emmet G. Sullivan sentence Flynn tomorrow?

Posted by: mrp at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (Pqytn)

270 >>This silly monkey circus shitshow needs to end by simply ordering the Flynn case dismissed

Its mystifying to watch a federal circuit court judge pour diesel on his career and the spark himself up in right front of all his professional jurist colleagues while shouting - "its all for you, Bob Mueller!"

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (32YRo)

271 This judge ought to hang.

Posted by: Eli Cash at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (67sg6)

272 The law firm Flynn used first looks bad about now

Posted by: Yo! at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (q2fym)

273

He will have every Democrat-donating lawyer in America helping him write his reply.



__________





"Because #OrangeManBad! It's right there in the poem on the Statute of Liberty. Q.E.F'n.D." -- Michael Avenatti, from his prison cell

Posted by: ShainS at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (FASvy)

274 Fucking hilarious skull ace.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (hVPRk)

275 Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (Kpl3J)

The correct response is: cry more bitch

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (MrE9D)

276
Lady in the Lake!
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at May 21, 2020


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Probably the best *mystery* Chandler ever plotted. His stuff wasn't really about the mystery per se, like Ellery Queen or Sherlock Holmes, it was about a slightly tarnished knight in an era without honor. Lady was kind of an exception.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (rpbg1)

277 As a practical matter, yes, but that's not entirely true. THere are two kinds of writs issued in response to a petition for mandamus. Alternative (gay, lol)and peremptory. Peremptory is simply a flat order to do what the writ commands, no chance for argument. Those are only issued in the most clear-cut of circumstances. Arguably, this is one of those, but since it is high profile and politically charged, they give the parties below a chance to argue the merits of the writ.

Alternative writs are typically worded, "either do X, or show cause why not within __ days." It's really a halfway victory for Flynn already.
Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (SFOr6)


OK. Are you an attorney ?

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (zr5Kq)

278 226
Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece
yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be
immediately denied without comment. HA!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (Kpl3J)

lol
Suck it, ass-hat.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (KnJdm)

279


Thanks, Tom Servo, I meant MORTAL, just can't type fast today

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (SFOr6)

280 ''Do the pudding flavors hold any particular meaning?
Posted by: Tuna at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (gLRfa)

Chocolate = for the moral groundedness of ultimate justice
Vanilla = for the Horde's purity of essence'

What about butterscotch?

Posted by: Tuna at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (gLRfa)

281
Judges. You can't trust a judge. I don't have Powell's optimism, but I hoper her celebratory tweet means good things... We'll see where this goes.

The judiciary as utterly beshitted itself in this matter at every juncture thus far.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (h6CJG)

282 Bing image search is odd, it keeps wanting to search for and keying off the jewelry the ladies are wearing. Silly search engine.

https://tinyurl.com/ybdx56bz

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (A5zUN)

283 What does flaming pudding smell like?

Flaming pudding smells like.....Victory!

Posted by: Archer at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (gmo/4)

284 She pegged Weissmann on the Enron case.


Phrasing?

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 21, 2020 05:14 PM (AHq56)
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I thought about that, but, decided the correct answer was, "Not nearly hard enough!"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (WEBkv)

285 Cyd Charisse is a great American.

Posted by: eleven at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (QLPEO)

===========================
The best pair of legs since forever.

Posted by: mrp at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (Pqytn)

286 AtC already gave us one for Flynn. Does she need to do a second?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (LvTSG)


Yes, but not the old wore out one.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (eF1II)

287 "That's it. Mr. Flynn, I sentence you to five billion years at hard labor in Leavenworth!!"

"Uh Judge, appellate court."

"Just shut up!! Shut up!!!"

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (L2ZTs)

288 This would be way better with some boobs

Posted by: Yo! at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (q2fym)

289 257 Moar plz.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 05:08 PM (MrE9D)

*sigh* Well, it goes against my nature, but fine:

https://tinyurl.com/y9l23cwh

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (A5zUN)

That's just great, lovely, full

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (l4C/z)

290 *sigh* Well, it goes against my nature, but fine:

https://tinyurl.com/y9l23cwh

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (A5zUN)

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Oh.


Wow.


Who is that??


Damn.


Dimples AND Bigguns....


Smitten

Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (nw6Hr)

291 And it only took 3 years

Ah, justice

Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (UUUON)

292 234
I've missed the pudding cup!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (ptqGC)



It happens.



Just try harder next time.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 21, 2020 05:11 PM (t+qrx)

Be better, Jane. Be better.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (KnJdm)

293 *cough third cough*
Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (nw6Hr)

I don't really think we need to go all Total Recall here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (A5zUN)

294 Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (A5zUN)

You're a good man

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (MrE9D)

295 I have only one thing to say:

BWAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (r+sAi)

296 .

If the DOJ has dropped the charges, who is the plaintiff?

Posted by: Mongo at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (dHTtp)

297 tuna:
Butterscotch = our golden victory! :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (L2ZTs)

298 Chocolate = for the moral groundedness of ultimate justice
Vanilla = for the Horde's purity of essence'

What about butterscotch?
Posted by: Tuna at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (gLRfa)


Butterscotch pudding is the traditional 29th anniversary gift.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (t+qrx)

299

OK. Are you an attorney ?
Posted by: runner


Yes, and one with decent mandamus experience (published favorable opinions) at that (which is rare).

And nothing I say here constitutes legal advice to you morons.

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (SFOr6)

300 Who invented butterscotch?

Posted by: Yo! at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (q2fym)

301 For Beatle's Country music there's always:


"Don't Pass Me By"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTKEiQHHsuk


Posted by: naturalfake at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (z0XD8)

302 That's not pudding.

Posted by: Pudding Expert at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (PiwSw)

303 10 DAYS?!

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Two Weeks at May 21, 2020 05:05 PM (Y274z)


Two weeks is 10 business/court in session days.

Posted by: RickZ at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (Y8PSl)

304 imp, don't have to answer, I was just curious because of response.

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (zr5Kq)

305 242 A great many judges are drunk on their own power. Driven mad by it, even.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (NWiLs)

They are. In this case, my gut feeling is that Sullivan has gone so far outside of the norms - trying to usurp the authority of both the Attorney General and the entire DOJ - that the Appeals Court is going to shut it down, just for so nakedly dragging the entire Judiciary into disrepute.

It's one thing for a Judge to try to assert authority over some small time local DA - but to try and assert his authority over the entire Federal Executive Branch? I don't think they can go for such a naked power play; it risks ALL of their power being scaled way back.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (Kpl3J)

306 I WON'T ALLOW THIS!!!

- A local judge in Hawaii

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (ADuZP)

307 And strawberry for... uh... you know...

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (L2ZTs)

308 276
Lady in the Lake!
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at May 21, 2020

*
*

Probably the best *mystery* Chandler ever plotted. His stuff wasn't really about the mystery per se, like Ellery Queen or Sherlock Holmes, it was about a slightly tarnished knight in an era without honor. Lady was kind of an exception.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (rpbg1)

Low bar, but I'll get to it eventually.
Chandler doesn't do plot very well in is fixup novels. He does other things very well instead.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (l4C/z)

309 Judges: Trump, Obama, Bush appointed. Nice.

Posted by: LASue at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (Ed8Zd)

Where'd you see that?


I looked them up and saw Trump and Reagan x2.

Posted by: Ha at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (SJDa9)

310 Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2020 05:16 PM (eF1II)

If things shake out the way we hope I'm guessing we're in for topless shots!*

*a man can dream

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (MrE9D)

311 272 The law firm Flynn used first looks bad about now
Posted by: Yo! at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (q2fym)

worse all the time, there is literally NO evidence that Flynn committed any crime.

Simple discovery would have blown this right out of the water as there is no Transcript of the phone call, and no original 302.

But its taken us almost 3 years to get there?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (NgKpN)

312 Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (nw6Hr)

Hayley Atwell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (A5zUN)

313 246
If Powell can make this go away, maybe she needs a promotion. SCOTUS material?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (L2ZTs)

That would be glorious. RGB replacement?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (KnJdm)

314 heh...the appeals court ordered Sullivan to explain himself...but only 'directed' the clerk to transmit the order...that's not worded by accident.

Posted by: NeverNeverTrumper at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (0jZvB)

315 .

"Show me the man and I will show you the crime." - Judge Emmett Sullivan

Posted by: Mongo at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (dHTtp)

316 226
Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece
yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be
immediately denied without comment.

Being a NeverTrumper means never having to admit you were wrong.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (+7yf7)

317 Bold Prediction: Sullivan will accept the dismissal before the deadline to respond.

Posted by: NM Lumberjack at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (Ec3g8)

318
Its mystifying to watch a federal circuit court judge pour diesel on his career and the spark himself up in right front of all his professional jurist colleagues while shouting - "its all for you, Bob Mueller!"

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (32YRo)


Really? What will happen to him? Will he get docked a day's pay? Fired? A memo put in his file?

No. If the appeals court rules against his circus, he continues as a Federal Judge just like he is now, and cases will come to him and he will do whatever he wants.

Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (ZfRYq)

319 Sullivan is going to fold his tent before he gets embarrassed.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (Boy/L)

320 *sigh* Well, it goes against my nature, but fine:

https://tinyurl.com/y9l23cwh

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020


*
*

She looks like the girl who played Buffy's "sister" Dawn.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (rpbg1)

321 Who invented butterscotch?
Posted by: Yo! at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (q2fym)


Collaboration between Land O Lakes and Jameson's.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (L2ZTs)

322 284 "Not nearly hard enough!"


Obviously not.

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (AHq56)

323 That the court cannot become the prosecutor.

Technically he's not. He would be appointing a prosecutor after determining whether one is justified or not by using a third party. I think he's covered his ass pretty well here, but the bias is obvious and the case is such a shambles it should be dropped no matter what his ringer comes up with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (KZzsI)

324 And nothing I say here constitutes legal advice to you morons.
Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (SFOr6)

medical advise ok, though, right ?

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (zr5Kq)

325 Another of Ms Atwell.

https://tinyurl.com/y9z29o5t

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (A5zUN)

326 A great many judges are drunk on their own power. Driven mad by it, even.

-

They are nearly all-powerful, 2nd only to the FBI in the system of checks and balances.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (ADuZP)

327 If the DOJ has dropped the charges, who is the plaintiff?
Posted by: Mongo at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (dHTtp)

THE PEOPLE!!!! and Judge Dredd.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (Kpl3J)

328 Yes, and one with decent mandamus experience (published favorable opinions) at that (which is rare).

And nothing I say here constitutes legal advice to you morons.
Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (SFOr6)

Hey if I ever get arrested.......?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (85Gof)

329 natto pudding

Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (UUUON)

330 Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (SFOr6)

I've already put you down as a reference and as my legal counsel

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (MrE9D)

331 natto pudding
Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (UUUON)


I just threw up on the cat.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (t+qrx)

332 Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (SFOr6)

I've already put you down as a reference and as my legal counsel
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (MrE9D)

hey get in line

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (85Gof)

333 Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be immediately denied without comment. HA!!!

............

if you look at protect democracy, the submitted an amicus. and if you look at Toobin, who wrote a silly article just like , i guess, patterico...you'll see the lefts' mental legal wheels turning

such as they are.

Powells's motion is silly. right?

and the DOJ's motion to dismiss is just a bunch of weird words.

The PD amicus used "scare quotes" to explain away all that evidence of VanGrack+Weissmann misbehavior as "new evidence" thereby rendering it meaningless.

Therefore, the DOJ, to them has no leg to stand on, it's just Barr and Trump criminally overstepping their bounds, for purely personal gain, to do evil and Sullivan needs to come in and figure out why.

Gleeson will use his inherent prosecutor/judge powers to depose Barr and the President, and use his inherent contempt powers, that he receives from sullivan through a legal conduit to do so.

it's crazy, but I'm just letting you know.

the crazy left/the crazy judge they think that dropping the case by DOJ was impeachment 2.0.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (aZkKl)

334 Ok now that we have the meanings for individual puddings taken care of what about the multilayered cups?

Posted by: Tuna at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (gLRfa)

335 They are. In this case, my gut feeling is that Sullivan has gone so far
outside of the norms - trying to usurp the authority of both the
Attorney General and the entire DOJ - that the Appeals Court is going to
shut it down, just for so nakedly dragging the entire Judiciary into
disrepute.

----------

Only thing left for J. Sullivan to do is resign and become the top CNN legal commenter. He will be paid a hefty 7 figure salary for his efforts to help ease his pain from leaving the bench.

Posted by: SH at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (sX1BW)

336 316 226
Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece
yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be
immediately denied without comment.

Being a NeverTrumper means never having to admit you were wrong.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (+7yf7)

=========

This just means that the appeals court is in Trump's pocket and part of the Russian cabal in the federal government.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (LvTSG)

337

medical advise ok, though, right ?
Posted by: runner




Damn straight! If you want to take the medical advice of a lawyer, you go right ahead!

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (SFOr6)

338 Didn't the 60's version of Marlowe get a handy in the remake of Murder, My Sweet with Mitchum?

Posted by: Eli Cash at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (67sg6)

339 313 246
If Powell can make this go away, maybe she needs a promotion. SCOTUS material?

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (L2ZTs)

That would be glorious. RGB replacement?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner

and executioner if we go by Sullivan rules.

Posted by: x at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (nFwvY)

340 Heh. Hasbro is doing a fan vote for some Star Wars action figures. Its very problematic. One of the choices is Slave Leia. And there are no Episode 7, 8, or 9 choices.

https://youtu.be/-nDFCtJY9wI

Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (Z7lwY)

341 They must not be messing around with this. How long has this been dragging on? And they gave the judge 10 measly days to explain himself. Which in court time is like telling him to explain himself yesterday.

Posted by: Just Lily at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (FuMqU)

342 224 which Marlowe book are you on?

I just downloaded a few to re-read. I also just saw Farewell My Lovely with Robert Mitchum. I liked the movie a lot more than I remembered liking the book. I should reread that.


Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:09 PM (PbpT7)

I'm on 'The Little Sister'.

Just finished The Big Sleep and Farewell My Lovely.

Wonderful prose, just wonderful. But Marlowe has some....quirks.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (l4C/z)

343 Probably the best *mystery* Chandler ever plotted. His stuff wasn't really about the mystery per se, like Ellery Queen or Sherlock Holmes, it was about a slightly tarnished knight in an era without honor. Lady was kind of an exception.

Yeah he wrote a story about a good man in awful places doing the right thing, the mystery was just a reason to write about him. The Big Sleep pretty well forgets about the mystery entirely for most of the book, and some of it is never resolved. But its still magnificent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (KZzsI)

344 Sullivan was hopeful the courts would just circle the wagons but methinks this a bridge too far over the river RUHigh.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 21, 2020 05:21 PM (+b1ew)

345 hey get in line
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (85Gof)


maybe our commenter needs a crown or fillings ?

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:21 PM (zr5Kq)

346 She looks like the girl who played Buffy's "sister" Dawn.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (rpbg1)

Actually she played Peggy Carter in the Captain America movies. As a redhead. You can see why Steve Rogers carried a torch.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:21 PM (A5zUN)

347 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (85Gof)

We can share bro.

No homo.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 05:21 PM (MrE9D)

348 Marlowe enthusiasts should check out "Black Eyed Blonde" by John Banville (using his slumming nom de plume Benjamin Black). Not Chandler, or course but Marlowe's in very good hands. A high quality one off, kind of like Kingsley Amis writing a James Bond ("Colonel Sun").

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 21, 2020 05:21 PM (ja/kn)

349 333 the crazy left/the crazy judge they think that dropping the case by DOJ was impeachment 2.0.
Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (aZkKl)

========

They're gonna be so sad when this Congress closes out and Nancy doesn't draw up articles of impeachment about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:21 PM (LvTSG)

350 >>>8 226
Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece
yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be
immediately denied without comment. HA!!!

The Twitter Expertise Board isn't very smart or good at their jobs or, well, anything.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:21 PM (PbpT7)

351 And nothing I say here constitutes legal advice to you morons.
Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM


Isn't that legal advice?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 21, 2020 05:21 PM (DMUuz)

352 Judge Emmett Sullivan > Judge Roland Freisler

Brain teaser for history buffs.

Posted by: Archer at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (gmo/4)

353
Its mystifying to watch a federal circuit court judge pour diesel on
his career and the spark himself up in right front of all his
professional jurist colleagues while shouting - "its all for you, Bob
Mueller!
***

Not really. This is just means he jumps up a lot higher on a future Dem president's list of judges to be promoted.


He should be impeached, but it is not going to happen.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (WdocV)

354 maybe our commenter needs a crown or fillings ?
Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:21 PM (zr5Kq)

Hey I have that on my business card " We barter, fuck the IRS"

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (85Gof)

355 331 natto pudding
Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (UUUON)

I just threw up on the cat.
Posted by: hogmartin at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (t+qrx)

mission accomplished

Posted by: REDACTED at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (UUUON)

356 hey get in line

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (85Gof)

============================
NGU, I'm willing to bet that his retainer fee is higher than yours

Posted by: mrp at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (Pqytn)

357

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (SFOr6)

I've already put you down as a reference and as my legal counsel
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (MrE9D)

hey get in line
Posted by: Nevergiveup


THn be sure to use all my nics here, Hobgoblin Malphonse Imp, Esq.

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (SFOr6)

358 This case is going away one way or another

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (sy7Qg)

359 Its mystifying to watch a federal circuit court judge pour diesel on his career and the spark himself up in right front of all his professional jurist colleagues while shouting - "its all for you, Bob Mueller!"

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 05:15 PM (32YRo)

Really? What will happen to him? Will he get docked a day's pay? Fired? A memo put in his file?

No. If the appeals court rules against his circus, he continues as a Federal Judge just like he is now, and cases will come to him and he will do whatever he wants.
Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (ZfRYq)

You need to understand, Sullivan and Eric Holder have been close personal friends for over 20 years. Holder takes his orders from Obama, Sullivan takes his orders from Holder.

Remember that NO ONE had ever mentioned "perjury" in this case before Obama brought that word up in his leaked phone call. Does anyone think it's a coincidence that Judge Sullivan suddenly started talking about "Perjury" 2 days later? Obama and Holder had given him his marching orders.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (Kpl3J)

360 Another of Ms Atwell.

https://tinyurl.com/y9z29o5t

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (A5zUN)

Obviously natural.
How refreshing.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (CqE5x)

361 Henderson: Karen, 75 year old white Reagan appointee.

Wilkins: 56 year old black male Obama appointee.

Rao, Neomi, 47-year old white Trump appointee.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (k4dH2)

362
The Twitter Expertise Board isn't very smart or good at their jobs or, well, anything.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:21 PM (PbpT7


But boy howdy, they love hotdogs.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (+b1ew)

363 But Judge Sullivan is black and they have special powers. White Man Law does not apply. Jeebus.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (0rEk2)

364 I like this judge Emmett Sullivan. He does things the REICH way.

Posted by: Judge Roland Freisler at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (WdocV)

365 Circuit has ordered Judge Sullivan to respond to #FLYNN Petition for Writ of Mandamus by June 1.

He's got two weekends to calm the heck down. But that will only make it worse.

Should have given him 1 hour.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (Saar8)

366 I don't think they can go for such a naked power play; it risks ALL of their power being scaled way back.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (Kpl3J)

They gave him 10 days to save face, but in appeals court timing terms that's the equivalent of saying "Now, damn it, now!"

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 05:23 PM (32YRo)

367 Personally as Cap I'd have given up on Peggy after she tried to shoot me in the crotch out of a fit of pique. Not a girl I want to hang around with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:23 PM (KZzsI)

368 Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:21 PM (PbpT7)

I'd argue they are very good at being self righteous cock suckers.

But that's just me.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 21, 2020 05:23 PM (MrE9D)

369 Oh man, I clicked over at Patterico and know I need a shower.

Where's Karen with that spray bottle of alcohol?

Is Patterico trying to out-liberal Kap'n Kuck?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:23 PM (+7yf7)

370 Glad to see that ace is taking this with due gravitas:

Flaming Skull and Pudding Cup !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 21, 2020 05:23 PM (cqteU)

371 He should be impeached, but it is not going to happen.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (WdocV)

Oh come on, maybe if we ask Nancy Pelosi real nicely...

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:23 PM (Kpl3J)

372 If you really want to trigger Judge Sullivan, email him and say his jurisprudence reminds you of Roger Taney.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (L2ZTs)

373 Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be immediately denied without comment. HA!!!

Patrick Frey is not a very good lawyer.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (yQpMk)

374 Heh. Hasbro is doing a fan vote for some Star Wars action figures. Its very problematic. One of the choices is Slave Leia. And there are no Episode 7, 8, or 9 choices.

--

I voted for the nobody bounty hunter. Fairly unremarkable character overall but he's got a jet pack, so that's cool.

Hopefully they won't f*ck it up and eventually say every storm trooper is a clone of him or something stupid like that. Or make an entire TV series about his helmet or some stupid bullsh*t.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (ADuZP)

375 I'm here.
So, wait....does this mean that if someone enters a plea of not guilty but turns out he is guilty, that"s perjury?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (QzF6i)

376

Hell, I might try doing fillings. Just let me try on a practice tooth first.

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (SFOr6)

377 ''If Powell can make this go away, maybe she needs a promotion. SCOTUS material? ''

She's making too money in private practice. Supreme Court would be a step down for her though it's pleasant to think about how many liberal heads would explode If it ever happened.

Posted by: Tuna at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (gLRfa)

378 Oh come on, maybe if we ask Nancy Pelosi real nicely...
___

IT PUTS THE MASK ON ITS SKIN OR ELSE IT GETS THE PERJURY CHARGE AGAIN

Posted by: Buffalo Nancy Pelosi at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (WdocV)

379 If the DOJ has dropped the charges, who is the plaintiff?
Posted by: Mongo at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (dHTtp)

Judge Sullivan! Order in the Court!

Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (RBQSs)

380 Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece
yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be
immediately denied without comment. HA!!!

==
that's why he has a blog, not legal practice. f'ing imbecile.

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (zr5Kq)

381 Normally I would bet he dismisses the case on the 9th day, but 1) its 2020 man, and 2) these people are intent on making Flynn suffer to the very last ounce as possible. They don't care about smack downs or embarrassment, just drag it out as long as possible.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (r+sAi)

382 Can you buy stock in porn hub?

Their stock has to be going through the roof

Posted by: Yo! at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (q2fym)

383 Really? What will happen to him? Will he get docked a day's pay? Fired? A memo put in his file?

------------

Meet CNN's new legal expert: Former District Judge Sullivan.

We secured his talent with a $5,000,000 bonus.
- This is CNN

Posted by: SH at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (sX1BW)

384 Judges: Trump, Obama, Bush appointed. Nice.

Posted by: LASue at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (Ed8Zd)

Where'd you see that?


I looked them up and saw Trump and Reagan x2.
Posted by: Ha at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (SJDa9)

Wilkins is an Obama appointee

Posted by: LASue at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (Ed8Zd)

385 ========

They're gonna be so sad when this Congress closes out and Nancy doesn't draw up articles of impeachment about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May

.......................

they're going to want to speak to the manager of Congress.

seriously though, the protect democracy amicus has several hunderd, maybe 2000, loopy lefty signatures. It's its own exhibit.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (aZkKl)

386 Jesus, what happened to Patterico?

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (uJwgo)

387 Didn't the 60's version of Marlowe get a handy in the remake of Murder, My Sweet with Mitchum?
Posted by: Eli Cash at May 21, 2020


*
*

Mitchum played the aging Marlowe in both the Farewell, My Lovely and The Big Sleep remakes.

Marlowe fans, you might also check our Robert B. Parker's Poodle Springs. Parker took the few chapters Chandler had written about Marlowe marrying the Loring woman, and built a novel around it. Well done.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (rpbg1)

388 Judge Emmett Sullivan > Judge Roland Freisler

Brain teaser for history buffs.
Posted by: Archer at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (gmo/4)
---------------------

Your encouraging his courtroom to be bombed!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Karen who maybe knows a bit of history
at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (WEBkv)

389 When DC cretin do these things there's usually a financial reward awaiting them come retirement.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (0rEk2)

390 312
Posted by: fixerupper at May 21, 2020 05:17 PM (nw6Hr)



Hayley Atwell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:18 PM (A5zUN)

Better Haley Atwell. Nipplage warning.

https://tinyurl.com/y94p64yf

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (KnJdm)

391 Patrick Frey is not a very good lawyer.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (yQpMk)

His commenters yestrday were all "hurr hurr, has Powell ever even tried a case before?"

Today, crickets. Not one new comment addresses these developments.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (+7yf7)

392 367 Personally as Cap I'd have given up on Peggy after she tried to shoot me in the crotch out of a fit of pique. Not a girl I want to hang around with.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:23 PM (KZzsI)

Redheads.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (A5zUN)

393 Also, I wonder if Sullivan can get away with trying to call the Appellates and yell at them.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (L2ZTs)

394 One of the choices is Slave Leia
***

The googles show so many models to base this one on....

Posted by: 18-1 at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (WdocV)

395 Hey I have that on my business card " We barter, fuck the IRS"
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 05:22 PM (85Gof)


You are an officer and a gentleman.

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:26 PM (zr5Kq)

396 Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be immediately denied without comment. HA!!!

Patrick Frey is not a very good lawyer.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (yQpMk)

heh.

Posted by: LASue at May 21, 2020 05:26 PM (Ed8Zd)

397 But that's all a distraction and a waste of time because Judge Sullivan cannot escape Fokker.
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I'll allow it.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge #3 at May 21, 2020 05:26 PM (Eicbe)

398
Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be immediately denied without comment. HA!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (Kpl3J)

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Patrick Frey is insane and a terrible attorney. That he worked as a prosecutor is frankly chilling.

If I were anyone convicted by him I would enter his twitter feed as evidence in my appeal; just a video supercut of his most outlandish legal thinking.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 21, 2020 05:26 PM (h6CJG)

399 Apparently, the new talking point on the left is that Democrats are going to have to clean up the economic mess that Republicans gave them...AGAIN!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:26 PM (LvTSG)

400 Flaming pudding smells like ......victory

Posted by: Mongo at May 21, 2020 05:26 PM (hrqrN)

401 Yes, Ringo.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 21, 2020 05:26 PM (jK8Z7)

402 Is Patterico still a LA County prosecutor?

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (xPl2J)

403 The googles show so many models to base this one on....
Posted by: 18-1 at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (WdocV)

It is fertile ground.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (A5zUN)

404 Jesus, what happened to Patterico?

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2020 05:25 PM (uJwgo)


Never Trump. It's a helluva drug.

If he were the prosecutor in my case, and based upon his blog writings, I'd investigate him for all sorts of illegal and shady shit in the courtroom.

Posted by: RickZ at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (Y8PSl)

405 that's why he has a blog, not legal practice. f'ing imbecile.
Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (zr5Kq)
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He is or was a prosecutor. And appears to have that "win at all costs, no matter what the law may say" attitude.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (WEBkv)

406 But the Judge gave Sullivan a chance to "explain" himself... Not that I think he has any reason to have done this lawfully, but I don't trust the Courts and that includes this new judge

Posted by: It's me donna at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (Zmnko)

407 DrSpank, I wonder the same thing about Patterico.

This is 100% my wild-ass guess, but...

Patterico wants to move up in the California District Attorney's office and can't if he's identified as a PDT supporter. I personally believed for a long time that he was scared shitless of Kamala Harris, and if that's true then he's probably also scared of Xavier Becerra.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (L2ZTs)

408 Patrick Frey is not a very good lawyer.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (yQpMk)

If you ever look over at the opposing counsels' team and Frey and Ken White are sitting over there, start high fiving your legal team...

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (32YRo)

409 Apparently, the new talking point on the left is that Democrats are going to have to clean up the economic mess that Republicans gave them...AGAIN!

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It's finally Trump's economy.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (ADuZP)

410 Hell, I might try doing fillings. Just let me try on a practice tooth first.
Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (SFOr6)

Ah "No Guts, No Glory"...just dive right in there and go for it. I can be your expert witness in any malpractice case

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (85Gof)

411 So what happens in 10 days when the hack says he didn't have enough time or desire to address it *Flicks bird*?

Posted by: Drider at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (R/UH9)

412 Jesus, what happened to Patterico?

___

Started sipping hobo penis as a hobby?

Posted by: Some disappointed hobo at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (WdocV)

413 He is or was a prosecutor. And appears to have that "win at all costs, no matter what the law may say" attitude.



let me know if he is still

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:28 PM (zr5Kq)

414 ''This case is going away one way or another''

As the sun rises in the East and sets in the West I'm positive you are correct.

Posted by: Tuna at May 21, 2020 05:28 PM (gLRfa)

415 409 Apparently, the new talking point on the left is that Democrats are going to have to clean up the economic mess that Republicans gave them...AGAIN!

--

It's finally Trump's economy.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (ADuZP)

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Trump made the shut down of New York happen on his own!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:28 PM (LvTSG)

416 373 Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be immediately denied without comment. HA!!!

Patrick Frey is not a very good lawyer.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (yQpMk)



So he's a Gabe Malor level lawyer.

Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2020 05:28 PM (Z7lwY)

417 AtC already gave us one for Flynn. Does she need to do a second?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (LvTSG)

uh.........kinda dumb question wasn't it?

Posted by: guy who missed a Victory Rack at May 21, 2020 05:28 PM (SnLSx)

418 323 That the court cannot become the prosecutor.

Technically he's not. He would be appointing a prosecutor after determining whether one is justified or not by using a third party. I think he's covered his ass pretty well here, but the bias is obvious and the case is such a shambles it should be dropped no matter what his ringer comes up with.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:19 PM (KZzsI)

United States vs. Fokker.

Held that the Court cannot make Prosecutorial decisions, due to separation of Powers.

He is literally doing just that.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:28 PM (NgKpN)

419 As far as I know, a judge does not even have the power to "appoint" a prosecutor. They can refer a criminal case to the DOJ; its up to the DOJ to accept or decline to prosecute. Separation of powers FTW!

Posted by: LASue at May 21, 2020 05:28 PM (Ed8Zd)

420 @361...looks like a pretty good panel for Flynn. He'll get a fair shake anyway.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 21, 2020 05:28 PM (ja/kn)

421 417 AtC already gave us one for Flynn. Does she need to do a second?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:13 PM (LvTSG)

uh.........kinda dumb question wasn't it?
Posted by: guy who missed a Victory Rack at May 21, 2020 05:28 PM (SnLSx)

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Apparently, it's impossible to use Google on your computer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:28 PM (LvTSG)

422 So he's a Gabe Malor level lawyer.
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Ouch.

Posted by: SH at May 21, 2020 05:29 PM (sX1BW)

423 wolfus,

i've read Red Wind but all I remember now is that great opening about the hot wind that makes wives start pondering their husband's necks. I think I just downloaded his short stories, so I'll get to that one soon.'

>>>348 Marlowe enthusiasts should check out "Black Eyed Blonde" by John Banville (using his slumming nom de plume Benjamin Black). Not Chandler, or course but Marlowe's in very good hands. A high quality one off, kind of like Kingsley Amis writing a James Bond ("Colonel Sun").

thanks, maybe I will.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:29 PM (PbpT7)

424 Apparently, the new talking point on the left is that Democrats are going to have to clean up the economic mess that Republicans gave them...AGAIN!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 21, 2020 05:26 PM (LvTSG)
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After THEY insisted it be shut down and REEEE every time someone talks about opening....

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2020 05:29 PM (Eicbe)

425 He is literally doing just that.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:28 PM (NgKpN)

I missed it by *that* much!

Posted by: LASue at May 21, 2020 05:29 PM (Ed8Zd)

426 It is easy to say Sydney Powell is kicking the court's ass. What is weird is to note that Judge Sullivan keeps bending over to receive another kicking.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 21, 2020 05:29 PM (8Xxh3)

427 422 So he's a Gabe Malor level lawyer.
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Ouch.
Posted by: SH at May 21, 2020 05:29 PM (sX1BW)

Would you like fries with that?

Posted by: Malor level lawyer at May 21, 2020 05:29 PM (A5zUN)

428 Trump should definitely bring Powell on as WH Counsel.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 21, 2020 05:30 PM (+b1ew)

429 397 But that's all a distraction and a waste of time because Judge Sullivan cannot escape Fokker.
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I'll allow it.
Posted by: Hawaiian Judge #3 at May 21, 2020 05:26 PM (Eicbe)

Fokker going to shoo the Judge down?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:30 PM (NgKpN)

430 I think Sidney Powell spells her first name with a "i", not a "y".

Posted by: mrp at May 21, 2020 05:30 PM (Pqytn)

431 After THEY insisted it be shut down and REEEE every time someone talks about opening....

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2020 05:29 PM (Eicbe)

After they crowed about all the deaths and suffering being such great opportunities . . . for them?
They'll be lucky to not get pitchforks and torches.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2020 05:30 PM (KnJdm)

432 Ok so 1 Reagan 1 Trump and 1 Obama.

Posted by: Ha at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM (SJDa9)

433 He is literally doing just that.

How so? He's not prosecuting the case. He's not presenting the state's case. He is following the process to replace the prosecutor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM (KZzsI)

434 So why did the scomf and his people think it was essential to take down Flynn?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM (LWu6U)

435 What is driving me crazy, three books in, about Marlowe is that he has this serious slut shaming thing...and he also mocks and demeans the nice girls too.

Now Marlowe is a sarcastic asshole who basically insults almost everyone, all the time. He's also written as being VERY handsome...so lots of women make passes at him.

So he has this thing where he'll flirt with girls, then shove them away (sometimes literally) if they respond. He'll kiss women, then treat them like shit. And God help any attractive, single woman who invites him over for some saucy puppet show action, he treats them like whores.

So it's this constant push/pull thing going on and it's sorta pissing me off. If he's not interested, fine. Plenty...well not plenty...but there are detective characters who don't have any sex in their stories.

I can see why folks can make $ writing ABOUT Marlowe and his hangups.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM (l4C/z)

436 Get ready for "36,000 lives would have been saved if OrangeManBad had locked down the country one week earlier!"

The Dem/MFM complex has their orders.

And remember...that number is based on MODELS. It's SCIENCE, bitchez! Because the models have been so accurate so far.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM (+7yf7)

437 So I'm just going to ask this to if my universal theory of NeverTrump is true. Is Patterico one of those people that Amnesty Uber Alles. Either directly or he always tries to play cute little games avoiding the question?

Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM (Z7lwY)

438 I called Patterico a tool on twitter. I'm not sure he'll survive.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM (uJwgo)

439 So when Sullivan loses this, how long before the charges of racism causing his loss start?

Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM (RBQSs)

440 406 But the Judge gave Sullivan a chance to "explain" himself... Not that I think he has any reason to have done this lawfully, but I don't trust the Courts and that includes this new judge
Posted by: It's me donna at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (Zmnko)

Actually the order was given "Per Curiam" which means the entire Appeals Court, acting together. Now 3 Judges from that Court have been named to consider the Writ and rule on it, after reading Sullivan's explanation of his actions.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (Kpl3J)

441 Late to the thread, dangit! So is it too early to revoke the JEF's passport?

Posted by: cornbred at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (A751K)

442

Ha, just for grins I looked up Patterico. He wrote up a piece yesterday saying that Sydney Powell's writ was ridiculous and would be immediately denied without comment. HA!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:10 PM (Kpl3J)

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Patrick Frey is insane and a terrible attorney. That he worked as a prosecutor is frankly chilling.

If I were anyone convicted by him I would enter his twitter feed as evidence in my appeal; just a video supercut of his most outlandish legal thinking.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice


A lot of prosecutors are very good. They move on into civil practice or move up the political chain.

Many prosecutors coast along, using the coercive power of the state to force plea deals and avoid going to trial. Because of case load, few are able to ever get more than a cursory level of involvement into a case unless it is a major one (murder, organized crime, large conspiracies or fraud).

Patterico played the odds on the mandamus filing and lost. Most of them are denied summarily. This kind of petition, after the USSC's recent 9th Cir reversal, the DC Cir cases, and the publicity involved, got much more attention.

He made a foolish statement, and is rightly paying for it in ridicule.

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (SFOr6)

443 They must not be messing around with this. How long has this been dragging on? And they gave the judge 10 measly days to explain himself. Which in court time is like telling him to explain himself yesterday.
Posted by: Just Lily at May 21, 2020 05:20 PM (FuMqU)


Is that work days or calendar days?
BTW, Federal Holiday Monday. If calendar days, that would take 9 working days out of the response time.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (1g7ch)

444 opening of Red Wind:


There was a desert wind blowing that night. It was one of those hot dry Santa Anas that come down through the mountain passes and curl your hair and make your nerves jump and your skin itch. On nights like that every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands' necks. Anything can happen. You can even get a full glass of beer at a cocktail lounge.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (PbpT7)

445 433
He is literally doing just that.



How so? He's not prosecuting the case. He's not presenting the
state's case. He is following the process to replace the prosecutor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM (KZzsI)

That assumes that there is a process that he's following. Apparent controlling precedent seems to disagree with him.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (KnJdm)

446

Mark, ya got a thing against misogynist psychopaths?

Posted by: BJ Cliton at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (Re9MM)

447 406 But the Judge gave Sullivan a chance to "explain" himself... Not that I think he has any reason to have done this lawfully, but I don't trust the Courts and that includes this new judge

....

well, yeah, aside from Fokker...there's also the sineneng SCOTUS case that 9-0 said no amicus side thingies (very techincal case holding)

so, yeah, sullivan is out of his depth here.

I wonder if he'll get gleeson (who wrote cuckoo WaPo editorial explaining clearly that anything Barr does is evil because orangemanbad) or protectdemocracy to help write his reply.

Here's their legal arguments summarized:

Rule 48a has a "public interest" exception, and it's clearly within the public interest to get flynn.

Everything Trump does is bad, therefore when the DOJ dropped the Flynn case, it was trump being evil through Barr.

Flynn already plead guilty so there can never ever be a do-over.

All that new evidence about Brady rules and Giglio? That's just mumbo jumbo that has nothing to do with Barr=Trump=Orange=Bad and plus, hey, did you know that Flynn pled guilty?

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (aZkKl)

448 Marlowe enthusiasts should check out "Black Eyed Blonde" by John Banville (using his slumming nom de plume Benjamin Black). Not Chandler, or course but Marlowe's in very good hands.

I'll take a look. I was underwhelmed by Poodle Springs

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (KZzsI)

449
What happens if Judge Sullivan defies the Writ of Mandingo?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at May 21, 2020 05:33 PM (lKn9z)

450 Red Wind is not technically a Marlowe story, but about some unnamed detective (as the Continetal Op was unnamed), though he's just like Marlowe and just kinda assumed to be Marlowe.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:33 PM (PbpT7)

451 So when Sullivan loses this, how long before the charges of racism causing his loss start?
Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM

Tonight on CNN we look at the racism behind the Republicans pouncing on Judge Sullivan.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 21, 2020 05:33 PM (l+j8B)

452 I don't see any reference to his (current) profession, an about page.

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:33 PM (zr5Kq)

453 433 He is literally doing just that.

How so? He's not prosecuting the case. He's not presenting the state's case. He is following the process to replace the prosecutor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM (KZzsI)

No, he is literally questioning WHY the Prosecution has decided to drop the case.

That is the whole basis of his going forward.

US vs Fokker says he can't do that.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:33 PM (NgKpN)

454 >>Jesus, what happened to Patterico?

What happens to a lot of guys who have decided to work on only the government side of cases - since its already set up for you to win, you don't have to think much, you can be lazy as fuck, and just rest on plea deals and helpful judges.

It leaves a lot of people like Frey and White making dumb predictions on high profile cases where the defendant is motivated and well defended. Something neither of these losers are used to, nor should they be in a court of law when it happens.

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 05:33 PM (32YRo)

455 That assumes that there is a process that he's following. Apparent controlling precedent seems to disagree with him.

There has to be some sort of process, since it is legal for the federal judges to continue a case if the prosecutors decline to. Hence, it has to be legal and possible (and likely, has been done in the past).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (KZzsI)

456 Ace, try also his novelette "Red Wind." All of the Marlowe flavor in a smaller space.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:12 PM (rpbg1)


Red Wind is the perfect Marlowe.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (0QYMt)

457 426 It is easy to say Sydney Powell is kicking the court's ass. What is weird is to note that Judge Sullivan keeps bending over to receive another kicking.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 21, 2020 05:29 PM (8Xxh3)


Name a ruling that Powell has won in Sullivan's courtroom.

Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (ZfRYq)

458 Also Patterico: Nobody spied on the Trump campaign, Flynn was not unmasked and wear your masks, Trumptards!

Why o why would anyone go to these NeverTrump sites when the left already has thousands of their own sites?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (+7yf7)

459 There was a desert wind blowing that night. It was one of those hot dry Santa Anas that come down through the mountain passes and curl your hair and make your nerves jump and your skin itch. On nights like that every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands' necks. Anything can happen. You can even get a full glass of beer at a cocktail lounge.
Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (PbpT7)

That just reminded me of the beginning of Max Payne.

Which is what Remedy were going for to begin with.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (A5zUN)

460 Good news - NY and NJ are only killing 100 citizens a day now.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (QZCjk)

461

Ace, Saffron needs to make an appearance, much overdue...

Posted by: BJ Cliton at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (Re9MM)

462 429 397 But that's all a distraction and a waste of time because Judge Sullivan cannot escape Fokker.

....

yeah, the Ct Appeals is keeping it simple.

"by what power are you refusing to dismiss the case"

first and foremost, answer that.

and then feel free to answer anything else in the Powell motion, eh?

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (aZkKl)

463 No, he is literally questioning WHY the Prosecution has decided to drop the case.

Right, because he has to do that in order to justify replacing the prosecution. So he hired out some ringer to do so and give him the answer he wants. That's not prosecuting the case. Its biased and hinky, but its not acting as the prosecution.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:35 PM (KZzsI)

464 How so? He's not prosecuting the case. He's not presenting the state's case. He is following the process to replace the prosecutor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM (KZzsI)

Replacing a single Prosecutor on a case is one thing. But saying that he has the authority to replace the entire US Department of Justice is quite another, and I do not believe the Appeals Court is going to go along with that. It's a Bridge Too Far.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:35 PM (Kpl3J)

465 That pudding cup is still not fuckin' funny.

Posted by: Norah O'Donnell at May 21, 2020 05:35 PM (sWM8x)

466 There was a desert wind blowing that night. It was one of those hot dry Santa Anas that come down through the mountain passes and curl your hair and make your nerves jump and your skin itch. On nights like that every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands' necks. Anything can happen. You can even get a full glass of beer at a cocktail lounge.
Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (PbpT7)
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I remember Lou Grant reading that on the Mary Tyler Moore Show.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2020 05:35 PM (Eicbe)

467 Someone commented in the last thread that the
Beatles never did a country song, and someone else brought up "Act
Naturally." On that one Lennon even sounds like Buck Owens



ringo, no?

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:03 PM (PbpT7)

It was Ringo on vocals for that song. Ringo and Buck Owens made a video for that song in 1989.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2020 05:35 PM (dmy3W)

468 So when Sullivan loses this, how long before the charges of racism causing his loss start?
Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM


Within a New York second.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 21, 2020 05:35 PM (DMUuz)

469 Is this a mask wearers site or non mask?


Asking for a friend

Posted by: Yo! at May 21, 2020 05:35 PM (q2fym)

470 446

Mark, ya got a thing against misogynist psychopaths?
Posted by: BJ Cliton at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (Re9MM)

I like to bang hot chicks. I like to read about characters who like to bang hot chicks.

If you don't want to bang hot chicks, fine, just don't make out with them and then call them a whore.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Free WA, Buy Ammo at May 21, 2020 05:36 PM (l4C/z)

471 449
What happens if Judge Sullivan defies the Writ of Mandingo?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

He gets Air-Tighted down at The Backdoor Club...

Posted by: BJ Cliton at May 21, 2020 05:36 PM (Re9MM)

472 Although as far as Ringo using a "country" accent - the Beatles (particularly early on) sang in what they thought were American accents 100 percent of the time, because they correctly perceived that Liverpudlian accents limited their audience. Later on they relaxed that somewhat. Contrast "I Saw Her Standing There" with "A Day in the Life."

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 21, 2020 05:36 PM (jK8Z7)

473 This order is outrageous, egregious, preposterous. It's part of the coverup!

Posted by: Jackie Chiles at May 21, 2020 05:36 PM (pK7cg)

474 So is Judge Amy Berman Jackson calling Sullivan a pussy or something?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 05:36 PM (QZCjk)

475 So when Sullivan loses this, how long before the charges of racism causing his loss start?
Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 05:31 PM

Within a New York second.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 21, 2020 05:35 PM (DMUuz)
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I'd bet they are writing it up now.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2020 05:36 PM (Eicbe)

476 420 @361...looks like a pretty good panel for Flynn. He'll get a fair shake anyway.
_______________

Yep, he's got a shot. Although if the ruling goes in Flynn's favor, I'm gonna predict that the black Harvard Law Obama-appointee (Wilkins) will dissent.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 21, 2020 05:37 PM (k4dH2)

477 The strange thing to me about Chandler is that he was not a tough guy, had no experience in law enforcement, had a British accent and an upper crust education, and was a bit of a fuddy duddy. But he could write hard boiled like nobody since Hammett.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:37 PM (KZzsI)

478 Tank has uncovered massive injustice.

RNC Research@RNCResearch
Democrat Stacey Abrams: illegal immigrants "are now no longer able to elect anyone who represents them"

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Worse, they can't even be president!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 21, 2020 05:37 PM (+y/Ru)

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I think Sidney Powell spells her first name with a "i", not a "y".


Posted by: mrp at May 21, 2020 05:30 PM (Pqytn)


Embrace the power of "and" ... oh, I see you already did.

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 21, 2020 05:37 PM (AHq56)

480 I have a Writ of Mandingo.

Judge Emit Sullivan

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 21, 2020 05:37 PM (QZCjk)

481 Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:33 PM (PbpT7)

Ace, on the second page of Red Wind (at least what I have) He says his name is Philip Marlowe and lives in the Berglund across the street.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 21, 2020 05:37 PM (0QYMt)

482 Years ago often read Patterico, seemed reasonably but that was when Jug Ears was in charge.

Posted by: Skip at May 21, 2020 05:37 PM (ZCEU2)

483 Although as far as Ringo using a "country" accent - the Beatles (particularly early on) sang in what they thought were American accents 100 percent of the time, because they correctly perceived that Liverpudlian accents limited their audience. Later on they relaxed that somewhat. Contrast "I Saw Her Standing There" with "A Day in the Life."
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 21, 2020 05:36 PM (jK8Z7)

Hey Rocky Raccoon is country to the core. It has guns and bibles and everything.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 05:37 PM (RBQSs)

484
My friends, we can work with this good man, Judge Sullivan.

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (rQ/Vt)

485 Name a ruling that Powell has won in Sullivan's courtroom.

Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (ZfRYq)

the old Christians had a pretty poor record in the Coliseum.

but she got van Grack shitcanned, even though Sullivan was in on the scam with him. That was pretty impressive.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (Kpl3J)

486 I await AtC's comment.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (pK7cg)

487 There has to be some sort of process, since it
is legal for the federal judges to continue a case if the prosecutors
decline to.
Hence, it has to be legal and possible (and likely, has
been done in the past).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (KZzsI)

That's just it. Only in limited circumstances does "leave of the court" mean judges can continue the case.Legal Insurrection explains Fokker and the Judge's position very well.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (KnJdm)

488 Lorne Greene sang "Ringo" Feed your dog Alpo! Rex sure loves it!

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (l+j8B)

489 "...He might not like or agree with the outcome that is dictated by the Fokker case, but in order to respect the oath of his office..."

Yeah, I think we all see the problem here. Oaths can be so bothersome, sometimes you just have to do what you need to do because words really don't matter.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (HhXSr)

490 oh right, the whole Fokker+Rule 48+ public interest thing.

here's the thing.

there may be a teensy weeny hole that a judge could deny a MTD if maybe there was a silent prosecutor that just dropped a clearly strong case (murder not 1001 lies)...then there's dicta about that.

BUT. what every crazy lib ignores, willfully, is that the DOJ wrote a 20 page motion to dismiss with words and sentences and everything.

the amicus briefs we've seen are just like, "meh, I don't care"

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (aZkKl)

491 wolfus,

i've read Red Wind but all I remember now is that great opening about the hot wind that makes wives start pondering their husband's necks. I think I just downloaded his short stories, so I'll get to that one soon.'
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Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020


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Right, the great opening, but it also shows Marlowe at his knightliest, and you don't need to deal with so many suspects and subplots.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (rpbg1)

492 I no longer take the default position that adults are in charge and will have the ultimate say. Corruption and ideological poisoning are so shot through our system, I can only hope.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (H8QX8)

493 But saying that he has the authority to replace the entire US Department of Justice is quite another, and I do not believe the Appeals Court is going to go along with that. It's a Bridge Too Far.

I agree, I think that he has a very, very tough row to hoe trying to convince higher judges that there is good reason for continuing the case with another prosecutor. The DOJ made a really good statement as to why they dropped it which pretty much nobody read.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (KZzsI)

494 Ace, Saffron needs to make an appearance, much overdue...
Posted by: BJ Cliton at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (Re9MM)

Saffron?

https://tinyurl.com/yd8lnwo7

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:39 PM (A5zUN)

495 >>>The strange thing to me about Chandler is that he was not a tough guy, had no experience in law enforcement, had a British accent and an upper crust education, and was a bit of a fuddy duddy. But he could write hard boiled like nobody since Hammett.

on the other hand he was a degenerate drunk who made the functional alcoholic Ian Fleming seem like a teetotaler by comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj6cc0T1z7I

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:39 PM (PbpT7)

496 THIS is what they mean when they say the Process is the Punishment.

There's murderers who have been tried sentenced been in jail and got out already. (invol manslaughter, short term and covid release)

Posted by: jakee308 at May 21, 2020 05:39 PM (/fsFg)

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The only thing Sullivan will face is being told he's wrong. Judge SUllivan can't "replace the prosecution" CRT, he can only disqualify he particular prosecutors. He cannot appoint one he likes better. DOJ can send whoever they want back to confirm the motion to dismiss, up to and including Barr.

What Sullivan can't do is find a law firm to prosecute the case privately, or allow amicus to argue substantive points of law that the parties do not themselves present.

Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:39 PM (SFOr6)

498 Democrat Stacey Abrams: illegal immigrants "are now no longer able to elect anyone who represents them"

Yeah, there sure is a shortage of people to represent them.

Posted by: t-bird at May 21, 2020 05:39 PM (4EIFd)

499 I think Sidney Powell spells her first name with a "i", not a "y".

Posted by: mrp at May 21, 2020 05:30 PM (Pqytn)

Embrace the power of "and" ... oh, I see you already did.
Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 21, 2020 05:37 PM (AHq56)

"Hi, I'm Sidney with one Eye!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:39 PM (Kpl3J)

500 because Judge Sullivan cannot escape Fokker.

Sometimes the Fokker can't escape you.

Posted by: Capt. Roy Brown at May 21, 2020 05:39 PM (DMUuz)

501 RNC Research@RNCResearch
Democrat Stacey Abrams: illegal immigrants "are now no longer able to elect anyone who represents them"
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Sure they can.

They just need to go back to their own damn countries to do it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 21, 2020 05:40 PM (k4dH2)

502 Dayum... flaming skull Thursday.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM at May 21, 2020 05:40 PM (+ldAm)

503 Fokker going to shoo the Judge down?
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:30 PM (NgKpN)


Jah! but those Fokkers were flying Messerschmitts !!!

Posted by: Just the Punchline ... at May 21, 2020 05:40 PM (LPnfS)

504 81% of The Wuhan deaths in Minnesota are in nursing homes

Posted by: Yo! at May 21, 2020 05:40 PM (q2fym)

505 3
*sniffs* What does flaming pudding smell like?





Posted by: Aetius451AD
I assume it smells like burnt scrotum. Don't want to find out.

Posted by: dirks strewn DA 1977 at May 21, 2020 05:40 PM (LBiyC)

506 Name a ruling that Powell has won in Sullivan's courtroom.

Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (ZfRYq)

One thing he did do, he let Powell play out her hand...he was under no obligation to do so, he had a plea, he could have gone to sentencing. I think the idiocy of the prosecution kept dumbfounding him. Every time she asked for a normal everyday piece of evidence that could shed light on sentencing, those imbeciles over at the prosecution desk just got those blank eyes like lil Orphan Annie...he let Powell have the rope to find out what the hell was going on...

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 05:40 PM (32YRo)

507 Fascinating. I clicked on Powell's tweet to see the picture and it gave me an error ("Something went wrong") that didn't clear. Tweet would not render.

I then stripped off the referring information (went to just the tweet with no reference to the referrer (acecomments.mu.nu and no trackers) and it popped right up like a dream.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2020 05:40 PM (hYcqw)

508 RE: "My friends, we can work with this good man, Judge Sullivan."

Great. The day wasn't so bad until this prick Zombie John McCain showed up. Why can't he just stay dead and enjoy his funeral?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at May 21, 2020 05:40 PM (HhXSr)

509 Why doesn't the media mask shame Governor Cuomo? Or Governor Newsom? Or Governor Pritzker? Or Governor Inslee

None of these guys wear masks at press conferences.

Weird that they are only going after Trump.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (I2/tG)

510 There was a desert wind blowing that night. It was one of those hot dry Santa Anas that come down through the mountain passes and curl your hair and make your nerves jump and your skin itch. On nights like that every booze party ends in a fight. Meek little wives feel the edge of the carving knife and study their husbands' necks. Anything can happen. You can even get a full glass of beer at a cocktail lounge.
Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:32 PM (PbpT7)
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I remember Lou Grant reading that on the Mary Tyler Moore Show.
Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2020


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And in the second paragraph Marlowe is doing just that, which leads into the main story. Neat.

Was that the Chandler bit that Lou read to Mary, to show her what *good* writing is? I remember the scene, but not the actual excerpt. Good choice.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (rpbg1)

511 Although as far as Ringo using a "country" accent - the Beatles (particularly early on) sang in what they thought were American accents 100 percent of the time, because they correctly perceived that Liverpudlian accents limited their audience. Later on they relaxed that somewhat. Contrast "I Saw Her Standing There" with "A Day in the Life."
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 21, 2020 05:36 PM (jK8Z7)

They also tried to sing like the records they heard and the records were American country, R&B and rock & roll.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (CqE5x)

512 Sullivan Response: Well, this guy supports Trump. He almost worked for him.

Appellate Court: Good Point...carry on.

Posted by: Orson at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (8mlXQ)

513 No, he is literally questioning WHY the Prosecution has decided to drop the case.

That is the whole basis of his going forward.

US vs Fokker says he can't do that.
Posted by: Romeo13

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yes, it's worse than that.

He wants Gleeson to get to bottom of why the evil Barr is doing this in violation of law, the dropping is the malfeasance he wants to get to the bottom of.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (aZkKl)

514 463 No, he is literally questioning WHY the Prosecution has decided to drop the case.

Right, because he has to do that in order to justify replacing the prosecution. So he hired out some ringer to do so and give him the answer he wants. That's not prosecuting the case. Its biased and hinky, but its not acting as the prosecution.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:35 PM (KZzsI)

This is a criminal prosecution.

Criminal prosecutions are ALWAYS the State vs someone.

This Judge wants to pick his own prosecutor, who will NOT be representing the State.

He will be representing the COURT.

Separation of Powers says, Nope.

Please show me a case where the Judge replaced a Prosecutor when they didn't want to prosecute?

Now, he can just rule that he is not going to take the recent pleading, rule Flynn Guilty, and sentence him.

But it will be appealed and overturned in a heartbeat.

But the real 'tell' here is the Judge is threatening the find Flynn in Criminal Contempt of Court, for changing his plea, as more evidence has come to light.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (NgKpN)

515 I agree, I think that he has a very, very tough row to hoe trying to convince higher judges that there is good reason for continuing the case with another prosecutor. The DOJ made a really good statement as to why they dropped it which pretty much nobody read.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (KZzsI)

It's occurred to me that this is a perfect example of how Leftists can never accept losing a battle, and they just Escalate, and Escalate, and Escalate, until they go over that cliff just like Thelma and Louise.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (Kpl3J)

516 From Sidney Powell's tweet:"A court of appeals grants a mandamus only after the judge has had an opportunity to respond." So this order is setting up a huge grand slam for TeamFlynn.

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (umBCo)

517
That pudding cup is kinda racist.

Posted by: Soledad O'Brien at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (rQ/Vt)

518 "Patrick Frey is not a very good lawyer." Indeed. Patterico has fallen.

Frey is a pompous jackass who, since Trump's election, has gotten almost everything regarding Trump 100% incorrect. And if you point out his downright godawful record of predictions vis a vi Trump he immediately bans you as a "Trumpikan" or some other such stupid childish name.

I've never seen anything more bizarre. he just cannot judge a single thing about Trump fairly or objectively, and always assumes the worst possible thing is true, absent any evidence and contrary to prevailing laws and standards.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (8Xxh3)

519 Was that the Chandler bit that Lou read to Mary, to show her what *good* writing is? I remember the scene, but not the actual excerpt. Good choice.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (rpbg1)
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Yep.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (Eicbe)

520 but she got van Grack shitcanned, even though Sullivan was in on the scam with him. That was pretty impressive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (Kpl3J)


Did she?

Don't get me wrong. I think Flynn is getting screwed and Powell is representing him very well.

But Sullivan is the only one kicking any tail in that courtroom.

Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (ZfRYq)

521

RNC Research@RNCResearch
Democrat Stacey Abrams: illegal immigrants "are now no longer able to elect anyone who represents them"




The horror...the horror...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (dmy3W)

522 Lorne Greene had a number one hit with "Ringo."

Still not the worst number one hit ever. That would be "(You're) Having My Baby."

"Disco Duck" places show.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (+7yf7)

523 The left knows Flynn will eventually walk away a free man. They're just trying to delay that for as long as possible. This is sadism.

Posted by: creeper at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (XxJt1)

524 The strange thing to me about Chandler is that he was not a tough guy, had no experience in law enforcement, had a British accent and an upper crust education, and was a bit of a fuddy duddy. But he could write hard boiled like nobody since Hammett.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020


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Funnier wisecracks, too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (rpbg1)

525 407 ...
Patterico wants to move up in the California District Attorney's office and can't if he's identified as a PDT supporter. I personally believed for a long time that he was scared shitless of Kamala Harris, and if that's true then he's probably also scared of Xavier Becerra.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 21, 2020 05:27 PM (L2ZTs)



So, he's not only a bad lawyer he's also a quisling.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (eF1II)

526 Ace, Saffron needs to make an appearance, much overdue...
Posted by: BJ Cliton at May 21, 2020 05:34 PM (Re9MM)


Now, I'm just mad !

Posted by: Donavon... at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (LPnfS)

527 So why did the scomf and his people think it was essential to take down Flynn? <<<<<<<

With obama it could be anything. One theory is because he told them it was fucking crazy to get in bed with fucking crazy muslim terror sponsor Iran. He didn't lick obama's underball like clapper, brennan, comey and hillary.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (r+sAi)

528 I see Romney is babbling about the virtues of mail-in voting. This guy is just automated now to take any position that undermines Trump.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (H8QX8)

529
"May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't."
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Trump tweeted this out before he became President & he & his family has been put through HELL. You think his mindset has changed?

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (sy7Qg)

530 The only thing Sullivan will face is being told he's wrong. Judge SUllivan can't "replace the prosecution" CRT, he can only disqualify he particular prosecutors.

I am far from an expert here but from what I read, he can appoint a new prosecutor, the DOJ is not the only game in town. But again, that's just what I read.

And yeah Chandler was a roaring drunk. The story of how he was to work with when helping to write the screenplay for Double Indemnity is hilarious. Both he and Wilder were a huge pain in the ass that clashed immediately but put out a masterpiece in the end.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (KZzsI)

531 >>>Was that the Chandler bit that Lou read to Mary, to show her what *good* writing is? I remember the scene, but not the actual excerpt. Good choice.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (rpbg1)
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Yep.

oh really? I thought you were just making that up.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (PbpT7)

532 What Sullivan can't do is find a law firm to prosecute the case privately, or allow amicus to argue substantive points of law that the parties do not themselves present.
Posted by: imp at May 21, 2020 05:39 PM (SFOr6)


What happens if court tells him he is wrong ? Dismissal as DOJ requested ? Can he sit on it ?

Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (zr5Kq)

533 81% of The Wuhan deaths in Minnesota are in nursing homes
Posted by: Yo! at May 21, 2020 05:40

And our dictator governor is STILL taking CV-19 patients well enough to leave the hospital and putting them in nursing homes. Great fucking idea. Let's put those people in with the most vulnerable. And then scratch our nuts and try to figure out why? If you take out LTC facilities. Our death toll is literally like 160 people in the entire state! And for that we've fucking napalmed our economy.

Posted by: Minnfidel at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (l+j8B)

534 ace, Chandler wrote the hard boiled stuff to pay the bills. Harder bitten they came, the more they paid. He studied the genre, he was a craftsman, a wonderful craftsman, but he wasn't pulling from deep recesses of his soul. He was givin' 'em what they wanted. Elmore Leonard's like that too. No pretensions to "literature", thank god, so they wrote the best literature of their respective generations.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (ja/kn)

535 No AtC.

Which of you clowns forgot to take down the " You must be this tall to comment" sign?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (DMUuz)

536 RNC Research@RNCResearch
Democrat Stacey Abrams: illegal immigrants "are now no longer able to elect anyone who represents them"




The horror...the horror...

I can think of a real easy solution...

GO HOME!!!

Posted by: LASue at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (Ed8Zd)

537 518 "Patrick Frey is not a very good lawyer." Indeed. Patterico has fallen.

Frey is a pompous jackass who, since Trump's election, has gotten almost everything regarding Trump 100% incorrect. And if you point out his downright godawful record of predictions vis a vi Trump he immediately bans you as a "Trumpikan" or some other such stupid childish name.

I've never seen anything more bizarre. he just cannot judge a single thing about Trump fairly or objectively, and always assumes the worst possible thing is true, absent any evidence and contrary to prevailing laws and standards.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (8Xxh3)



I know like nothing about this guy but again I ask: What has been his stance on illegal aliens? Has he been an amnesty proponent, or playing games with the distinction between legal immigrants and the law breaking illegals?

Posted by: buzzion at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (Z7lwY)

538 The judge is calling in the Mandalorian? It's an outrage!

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (sWM8x)

539 Mutt Rombley is a fvcking disgrace. Always and forever.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (+7yf7)

540 Please show me a case where the Judge replaced a Prosecutor when they didn't want to prosecute?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (NgKpN)
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US v. Flynn 2020 Smart guy!

Posted by: How'd You Like a Nice Hawaiian Judge at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (Eicbe)

541 RNC Research@RNCResearch 
Democrat Stacey Abrams: illegal immigrants "are now no longer able to elect anyone who represents them" 
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LOL she called them illegal immigrants?

Posted by: Ha at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (SJDa9)

542 528. It is not so much about Trump, as it is about use, the unwashed who did not vote sufficiently for him.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (svbBD)

543 Notice how Twitter doesn't deign to give major public figures like Powell or major journalists like Margot Cleveland blue checks?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (hYcqw)

544 Oooooooh Yeeeaaaahhhh!

Puddingskull!!!!!!!!1

Posted by: logprof at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (oZuI0)

545 So, he's not only a bad lawyer he's also a quisling.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (eF1II)

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well, since his only other option is to get a real j*b, he didn't have much choice...

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 21, 2020 05:45 PM (i6uJ1)

546 Man I got that guy good- I posted a comment there and called him Patterdicko!!

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at May 21, 2020 05:45 PM (jjaLl)

547 538 The judge is calling in the Mandalorian? It's an outrage!
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (sWM8x)

Baby Yoda is so cute.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 21, 2020 05:45 PM (A5zUN)

548 520 but she got van Grack shitcanned, even though Sullivan was in on the scam with him. That was pretty impressive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:38 PM (Kpl3J)

Did she?

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to be fair:

Powell was barking against a brick wall with sullivan.

It was Trump bringing in Barr to end Rosenstein's reign of terror. Once Barr appointed oversight to Flynn case, VanGrack's days were numbered

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:45 PM (aZkKl)

549 The judge is calling in the Mandalorian? It's an outrage!
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 21, 2020 05:44 PM (sWM8x)
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Just a Delorian. He wants to go back in time.

Posted by: Axeman at May 21, 2020 05:45 PM (Eicbe)

550 powell was setting up for a long slog through appeals.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:45 PM (aZkKl)

551 Frey is Johnson. Johnson is Frey

Finkle is Einhorn

Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 21, 2020 05:45 PM (xInes)

552 The judge is calling in the Mandalorian? It's an outrage!

Sexist too. Wait for it...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 21, 2020 05:46 PM (NWiLs)

553 529
"May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't."
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Trump tweeted this out before he became President & he & his family has been put through HELL. You think his mindset has changed?

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (sy7Qg)


Yes, it's moved to the right and become more steeled than ever.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2020 05:46 PM (eF1II)

554 Fuck Sullivan in particular. Hard. With a flaming pineapple, wrapped in barbwire, sideways. Repetitively.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Not Masked and Hearding Cats at May 21, 2020 05:46 PM (3H9h1)

555 Recall that Harry Reid changed the rules of the Senate to prevent filibusters of judges below SCOTUS. He did it precisely so he could pack the DC District Court of Appeals with Liberal judges.

I believe Flynn's appeal is at this court.

Posted by: Losing my mind at May 21, 2020 05:47 PM (73kBd)

556
AaaaaaaAhhhhaaaaaafffternoon Delight!

Posted by: Starlight Vocal Band at May 21, 2020 05:47 PM (DMUuz)

557 Nood Church Attendees Welcome

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 21, 2020 05:47 PM (KnJdm)

558 But Sullivan is the only one kicking any tail in that courtroom.
Posted by: blaster at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (ZfRYq)

All Judges are little gods in their own courtrooms, that's a rather trivial observation. The point is, Sullivan's plan for this case is going down the crapper, and Powell's plan comes closer to fruition every day. Powell is sticking a pitchfork into that little tin god's ass. Will she win in HIS courtroom? Of course not, Never! But she'll win her chance to get a different one - or none at all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:47 PM (Kpl3J)

559 Judge Red

Posted by: jsg at May 21, 2020 05:47 PM (aFWbw)

560 I see Romney is babbling about the virtues of mail-in voting. This guy is just automated now to take any position that undermines Trump.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (H8QX

That's actually a good thing. Because Romney is a loser, a paler version of Shit Midas.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 21, 2020 05:48 PM (CqE5x)

561 Hollywood was sick of Chandler when "The Big Sleep" was getting made. Too big a drunk. Too unreliable. So to tidy up he script the studio hired...notorious boozebag William Faulkner. Chandler on a bender really must have been something to behold.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 21, 2020 05:48 PM (ja/kn)

562 If these asshole governors are still sticking infected people in these nursing homes, that constitutes murder.

Posted by: ACLU at May 21, 2020 05:48 PM (aDI6+)

563 >>>Was that the Chandler bit that Lou read to Mary, to show her what *good* writing is? I remember the scene, but not the actual excerpt. Good choice.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (rpbg1)
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Yep.

oh really? I thought you were just making that up.

Posted by: ace at May 21, 2020


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Mary was taking a spin as the news writer, perhaps because Murray was out sick, and Lou takes the time to give her an example of what *good* writing is. I thought the excerpt on the show had something in it about rain-wet streets, but it's been a looong time since I saw the episode.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 21, 2020 05:48 PM (rpbg1)

564 560 I see Romney is babbling about the virtues of mail-in voting. This guy is just automated now to take any position that undermines Trump.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (H8QX


Does he have committee assignments?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 21, 2020 05:49 PM (eF1II)

565 What happens if court tells him he is wrong ? Dismissal as DOJ requested ? Can he sit on it ?
Posted by: runner at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (zr5Kq)

That's what a Writ of Mandamus is all about. It's an ORDER for him to do something, or to take it away from him completely.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:49 PM (Kpl3J)

566 Lorne Greene had a number one hit with "Ringo."

Still not the worst number one hit ever. That would be "(You're) Having My Baby."

"Disco Duck" places show.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (+7yf7)

Or Cha Cha Slide played repeatedly at every wedding reception.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 21, 2020 05:49 PM (RBQSs)

567 Orders coming at you from a sua sponte motion seldom bring good tidings

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 21, 2020 05:49 PM (6mvRv)

568 527 So why did the scomf and his people think it was essential to take down Flynn?

.........

Flynn was probably the most senior intel community person Trump could get to join his team.

Flynn knew what's what and would've sniffed out FISA stuff and other Russia Hoax things quicker.

What scares me about Trump and Pence is that they let Flynn go.

I ascertain affair la-Flynn went like this:

FBI talks to him, he says something like "meh, you have the call with kyslyak, whatever."

FBI spends a month trying to groom the 302 into something perjurous. But in the meantime Comey goes to trump and says "hey, bro, bad news, dude lied, broke the law."

At this point, Flynn should've said "hey fuckers, this is an operation, something is going on" but instead, Pence/Trump were convinced Flynn lied to them, probably because of WaPo leaks.

So, instead of listening to Flynn, trump fires Flynn, talks to Comey, Comey pretends this could be obstruction, and so on.

3 years later, still no original 302's, van grack refused to hand it over, we have strozk texts. blah blah blha.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:49 PM (aZkKl)

569 >>>I am far from an expert here but from what I read, he can appoint a new prosecutor, the DOJ is not the only game in town. But again, that's just what I read.

Not in US vs Michael J Flynn he can't...the DOJ represents the US...once they are gone, there is no one else who is allowed to represent the US in this case - you're thinking civilly.

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 05:50 PM (32YRo)

570 Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 21, 2020 05:42 PM (+7yf7)


C'mon. Tiptoe Thru the Tulips has gotta be at least an dishonorable mention. (the original release in 1929)


Dumbest damn song.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 21, 2020 05:50 PM (/fsFg)

571 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (KZzsI)

Not sure what you are reading, but only the DOJ can bring Federal Criminal Charges.

He can kick an individual prosecutor off the case, but he would then be replaced by someone from the DOJ, ie, the ones brining the criminal charge.

Civil cases are different.

But when the Case is US Government vs. Flynn, then the US Government must be the prosecutor.

Now, I could potentially see a case where a County Prosecutor did a crap job, so the Judge would ask the State to get involved, but both would have been prosecuting under State Law.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:51 PM (NgKpN)

572 "Hi, I'm Sidney with one Eye!" - Tom Servo
==========================
Aye, it's the "i".

Posted by: mrp at May 21, 2020 05:51 PM (Pqytn)

573 It's occurred to me that this is a perfect example of how Leftists can never accept losing a battle, and they just Escalate, and Escalate, and Escalate, until they go over that cliff just like Thelma and Louise.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 05:41 PM (Kpl3J)

Well, to be fair, that is how they often win. escalation. They escalate until we give up or give in. Trump's power is he forces then to keep escalating until they seem unhinged. It's one of the reason's they hate him so.

Imagine a poker player (progressives) that does nothing but bluff, all the time. In fact they always bluff. In fact they have done it so much they don't even know how to play cards any more. And imagine an opposing player (conservatives) that always folds when the stakes are raised. They keep losing, and cursing their luck that progressives always seem to have the winning hand. That has been the last 30 years.
Now imagine an opposing player (Trump) that either calls each raise, or raises them back. At the end of each hand the progressives keep having to show their cards, and over and over we see it was just a bluff. And progressives realize they have forgotten even how to play poker.

The other players (conservatives) are slowly realizing the progressives NEVER have shit in their hands. And the progressives are at a loss as to changing their method of play.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 21, 2020 05:51 PM (8Xxh3)

574 Still not the worst number one hit ever. That would be "(You're) Having My Baby."

I saw a tour-ending concert of the Tubes in the '70's.

The band came out for an encore. Fee Waybill asked what people wanted to hear for an encore. The crowd roared "White Punks on Dope!" Fee announced that they weren't doing that song anymore, and started singing "(You're) Having My Baby." The band got about halfway through the song until the band segued into "White Punks on Dope!"

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 21, 2020 05:51 PM (I2/tG)

575 Flynn is the only one still i n a courtroom because he stuck it out and only because he got rid ofhis corrupt attorneys and hired Powell.Papadopolous took a plea and went to jail, for a short amount of time, granted, but gave up the possibility of exoneration. I don;t think they ever charged Carter Page which would have been a can of worms as he actually worked with the CIA.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 21, 2020 05:52 PM (QzF6i)

576 569 >>>I am far from an expert here but from what I read, he can appoint a new prosecutor, the DOJ is not the only game in town. But again, that's just what I read.

Not in US vs Michael J Flynn he can't...the DOJ represents the US...once they are gone, there is no one else who is allowed to represent the US in this case - you're thinking civilly.
Posted by: Boswell

..........

yup. that's a nope.

there may be a teensy weeny hole that a judge could deny a MTD if maybe there was a silent prosecutor that just dropped a clearly strong case (murder not 1001 lies)...then there's dicta about that.

The protect democracy amicus goes on and on about public interest because it's their only shot.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:52 PM (aZkKl)

577 >>Civil cases are different.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 21, 2020 05:51 PM (NgKpN)

Horde legal minds are best minds...

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 05:52 PM (32YRo)

578 Guy Smiley, you're lucky we got nood, because taking on Paul Anka might earn a trip to the barrel . . . .

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 21, 2020 05:54 PM (jK8Z7)

579
Was that the Chandler bit that Lou read to Mary, to show her what *good* writing is? I remember the scene, but not the actual excerpt. Good choice.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
--------

Pfft.

"She walked towards me, her hips waving a happy hello." - Mickey Spillane

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 21, 2020 05:54 PM (L47aO)

580 Now, I could potentially see a case where a County Prosecutor did a crap job, so the Judge would ask the State to get involved, but both would have been prosecuting under State Law.
Posted by: Romeo1

.........

this is interesting.

Rule 48 protect defendants from prosecutors trying to dismiss the case to get a re-do.

The concept here is if the judge detects that the prosecutor himself sucks, that's kind of tough shit, eh?

the prosecutor's boss could get a new guy to take over (maybe) but the difference here is that the DOJ (i.e., the prosecutor boss) is dropping the case.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:54 PM (aZkKl)

581 555 Recall that Harry Reid changed the rules of the Senate to prevent filibusters of judges below SCOTUS. He did it precisely so he could pack the DC District Court of Appeals with Liberal judges.

I believe Flynn's appeal is at this court.
______________________

It is, but the panel drawn for Flynn's writ is not all Obama appointees.

He's got Karen Henderson, a 75 yo white woman who was appointed to the federal bench by Ronald Reagan, then to the appeals court by Bush, Sr.

Neomi Rao, a 47-year old white woman appointed by Trump.

And Robert Wilkins, a 56-year old black man appointed by Obama.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 21, 2020 05:56 PM (k4dH2)

582 It's good that the Appeals Court acted so quickly on the motion for a Writ, and before Sullivan gets his circus underway on the 10th, but the scenario that delays justice for Flynn the longest would actually be:

1) 2 to 1 panel in Flynn's favor grants the writ, which allows

2) Sullivan to appeal for an en banc review by the entire DC Circuit which is majority Democrat appointed, forcing

3) an appeal to the Supreme Court by Powell on behalf of Flynn.

If the Democratic leader of the DC circuit had given them a 2-to-1 Democrat panel, their denial of the Writ would've allowed Powell to go right to the Supreme Court without the en banc review.

Posted by: Evan3457 at May 21, 2020 05:57 PM (8X8pP)

583 I am far from an expert here but from what I read, he can appoint a new prosecutor, the DOJ is not the only game in town. But again, that's just what I read.

***
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (KZzsI)


He can refer; he can't appoint. I guess he could try to end run the DOJ by referring a perjury charge to a local DA...maybe? But I'm not sure they would have jdx. Anyway, that would be really bizarre and would still be up to the DA to determine whether or not to prosecute.

Posted by: LASue at May 21, 2020 05:58 PM (Ed8Zd)

584 The protect democracy amicus goes on and on about public interest because it's their only shot.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:52 PM (aZkKl)

Yes, the interest is often in those cases of continuous charging of the defendant on the same crime or very similar crimes, then dropping them and retrying them on another case very close - ie just torturing the defendant by redoing prosecutions over and over again hoping for a guilty plea - that's when the Supremes stepped in and said, no way - you can't drop the case, have to finish the prosecution right now and get your ass kicked.

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 05:58 PM (32YRo)

585 I think this is an error:

2) Sullivan to appeal for an en banc review by the entire DC Circuit which is majority Democrat appointed, forcing

sullivan cannot appeal nothing.

only parties in the controversy can. the DOJ and Flynn.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 05:59 PM (aZkKl)

586 Having handled quite a few appeals in state and federal court, I would simplify the tea leaf reading like this:

Possible Outcome 1 on a Writ: Peremptory denial. In this instance the Court either decides it's premature to get involved (let the process play out and then consider on appeal if there is still an issue) or that the Petition for the Writ is so clearly without merit that there is no reason to consider. This outcome is common.

Possible Outcome 2 on a Writ: Grant the Writ in the first instance. In this instance, the Court concludes that the issue is so urgent and error so manifest, that the Court can't even wait to let the Trial Court file a response and grants. This sometimes happens if there is zero room for argument that the Trial Court is wrong AND it would be hard to un-ring the bell later on appeal (e.g., the Trial Court ordered a document produced that is protected by a privilege - you can't really unsee the document, so an emergency fix is needed). This outcome is rare.

Possible Outcome 3 on a Writ: Grant the alternative Writ. Usually a Petition for Writ asks the Court of Appeal to grant the Petition in the first instance OR issue and Order to Show Cause why it shouldn't be granted. The "Show Cause" just means submit a brief arguing against the outcome. This happened here. The issuing of the alternative Writ is a good sign for the Petitioner (Flynn) because it means in the initial workup of the Petition the Court (probably research attorneys consulting with the Judges assigned to a Writ panel) though there was a solid argument of error that needed early (pre-appeal) attention. This is not a slam dunk win, but it is a good position to be in (the Petitioner is often arguing from a position of strength). Sometimes it telegraphs a difference of opinion in the Judges on assigned to the matter and they want more briefing to see if it sways one side or the other. It's definitely better than a peremptory denial. Note that you can still lose once the Court considers all the arguments.

Appeals versus Writs: The press is bad about correctly characterizing legal terms of art. In appellate court parlance, appeals are (generally) available as a matter of right when a case is concluded (like a trial is concluded or a summary judgment motion is granted) or a complete part of a case is concluded that doesn't depend on or impact the rest of the case. Writs are viewed as cutting in line by the court of appeal. You need to explain why you can't wait until the trial court is done to take a normal appeal. Writs are typically by permission, not as a matter of right. When the Court of appeal orders briefing to show cause why it shouldn't grant the Writ, it has basically given permission to the petitioner to cut in line and have their issue heard early (before a normal appeal could be taken). Just to add an extra bit of detail, appeals are usually matters of right to an intermediate court of appeal, but state supreme courts and the U.S. Supreme Court usually only hear "appeals" on a permission basis (there are some narrow exceptions like death penalty cases, but the general rule usually applies).

Generally a Lurker, but a longtime reader and fan

Posted by: H. Scott Leviant at May 21, 2020 06:00 PM (Fi9Ec)

587 again hoping for a guilty plea - that's when the Supremes stepped in and said, no way - you can't drop the case, have to finish the prosecution right now and get your ass kicked.

....


hey, right, but that's not what the leftist lunatics are saying.

The public interest is that the DOJ is so evil under Trump that dropping the case is a miscarriage of justice.

I go on and on above, sorry, but the upshot is Gleeson will get to the bottom of this, why Barr and Trump ruined our justice system by letting the notorious Flynn go.

There may be a tiny sliver of dicta (no binding judge talk) that public interest could let judge overrule MTD. But that's not here.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 06:01 PM (aZkKl)

588 I see Romney is babbling about the virtues of mail-in voting. This guy
is just automated now to take any position that undermines Trump.


Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (H8QX




Benedict Arnold: What a turncoat

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 21, 2020 06:01 PM (ckxJW)

589 He can refer; he can't appoint. I guess he could try to end run the DOJ by referring a perjury charge to a local DA...maybe? But I'm not sure they would have jdx. Anyway, that would be really bizarre and would still be up to the DA to determine whether or not to prosecute.

Posted by: LASue at May 21, 2020 05:58 PM (Ed8Zd)

Two different court systems...state vs federal - he knows that the Dept of Justice brings criminal cases to the federal court system, not the local DA - he can't pick prosecuting authorities that he likes.

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 06:02 PM (32YRo)

590 There may be a tiny sliver of dicta (no binding judge talk) that public interest could let judge overrule MTD. But that's not here.
Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 06:01 PM (aZkKl)

I went and looked up Turley's article, I see what you're talking about. It probably is their plan; it's insane. The appeals court will never let them go that far.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 06:03 PM (Kpl3J)

591 Generally a Lurker, but a longtime reader and fan
Posted by: H. Scott Leviant

....

well, yeah, right?

I think the easiest path is to just grant madamus on the very simple question of Rule 48 and Fokker. There's no issue in controversy.

Otherwise, the monkey circus will ensue as I describe above, Gleeson is meuller 2.0 and goes to figure out why Barr subverted justice by ... checks notes...dropping case in light of new evidence.

You know, when Barr didn't personally drop the cas.e

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 06:04 PM (aZkKl)

592 Uh oh, the appeals panel actually cited the Fokker Services case in the order.

Not good news for Sullivan.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 21, 2020 06:05 PM (k4dH2)

593 Sadly, I believe the court has until June 5th to respond, based on how days are counted under federal rules of procedure (it may be different for the appellate court though). I would much prefer this order ruin Memorial Day weekend for the judge and limit the amount of time third parties can assist the judge.

Posted by: Brock at May 21, 2020 06:06 PM (qsTkS)

594 Flynn knew or was going to find out where all the scams and slush money was coming from. (Biden/Ukraine, Kerry/Ukraine and Jug ears had a part in all that)

He AND Trump were the death knell for the way things were being played in the WH and the IC. Lots of money floating plus they would be able to fire a lot of Obama holdovers if they hadn't been so distracted and flummoxed by all the investigations and insinuations.

Remember? It's hard to remember that things didn't used to be this way for any President. Even a Republican. Oh they'd start in on them after a few months or so but nothing so hard core.

It wasn't just because Trump beat Hillary. It was because Hillary losing put them all up for a trip to jail.

Notice the CYA memo. That memo doesn't cover Susan Rice's ass. It covers every body else's. Except Comey. It was a script they ran in front of Yates and Rice. Then Yates tells Rice to memorialize what she's heard. This way later they can claim (because of the phony scripting) that they were doing things by the book.

The clue is that they did this just before Obama's term was up and he wouldn't have any reason for this meeting.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 21, 2020 06:06 PM (/fsFg)

595 Inspector Kemp @ 573- The left are diabolical. As in shaitan-diabolical. There can be no dialog with these evil bastages. They will have to be beaten into submission, lose their will to fight, and disarmed. And no effing Marshall Plan.

Posted by: Eromero at May 21, 2020 06:07 PM (XhWtx)

596 Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 06:01 PM (aZkKl)

I went and looked up Turley's article, I see what you're talking about. It probably is their plan; it's insane. The appeals court will never let them go that far.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 202

....

well, what got my goat going was the Toobin article. Plus I actaully read the amicus.

cuckoo.

but you see what the plan is.

of course, with Seneseng the appeals court has a no brainer with respect to Gleeson.

so, it could go the other way, drop Gleeson's mueller 2.0 act and keep the guilty plea? nah...

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 06:07 PM (aZkKl)

597 I went and looked up Turley's article, I see what you're talking about. It probably is their plan; it's insane. The appeals court will never let them go that far.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 21, 2020 06:03 PM (Kpl3J)

Again, that's a public interest in NOT allowing the DOJ to repeatedly try and drop a case, not in the fact that a guilty person will go free. The only USSC decision on this was that very public interest, the interest that the public not be tortured by endless prosecution by dropping and then retrying...it has nothing to do with this case.

Posted by: Boswell at May 21, 2020 06:08 PM (32YRo)

598 Sounds similar to an order to show cause, that is, the court is being ordered to justify its actions and show cause why general Flynn should not get the relief requested.

The a****** judge and all of his amicus do I have a hard time condensing the appellate Court that trial judges can ignore what prosecutors and or defendants agree to or decide to do in agreement

Posted by: oddnot at May 21, 2020 06:09 PM (wvY8b)

599 Boswell, I didn't go through every ruling on rule 48 but protectdemocracy miscites several cases on that end.

so, I think all of us who care about this thing (and haven't filed our own amicus...hmmm) will be very interested see what sort of bullshit words sullivan strings together.

I'd like to be amused by him cobbling together something from Gleeson's WaPo editorial and the Protect Democracy amicus with whatever other doltist lib amicus comes his way.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 06:10 PM (aZkKl)

600 The a****** judge and all of his amicus do I have a hard time condensing the appellate Court that trial judges can ignore what prosecutors and or defendants agree to or decide to do in agreement
Posted by: oddno

...........

you know what, oddno, it may be that Sullivan NEVER EXPECTED the appeals court to do anything.

he thought he had free reign to conduct mueller probe 2.0 until, oh...2023.

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 06:12 PM (aZkKl)

601 I still laugh to this day, remembering the picture of Norah O' Donnel with Ace holding a pudding cup near her face...
Holy Shit. How long ago was that? 2008? 2012?

Posted by: Gunslinger at May 21, 2020 06:12 PM (R2gO3)

602 Then Yates tells Rice to memorialize what she's heard.
__________________

Except Yates said, under oath, that Obama didn't bring up the Flynn/Kisylak phone calls under after Rice had left the meeting. Yates said that she, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and Rice were at the meeting with Obama, then the meeting ended and Obama asked Yates and Comey to stay behind and discuss something. That's when he first brought up the Flynn phone calls. Only Obama, Comey, and Yates were in the room, according to Yates' sworn testimony.

So Rice was "memorializing" in her CYA e-mail, weeks after that meeting, a conversation that Rice was not even present to hear.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 21, 2020 06:12 PM (k4dH2)

603 I see Romney is babbling about the virtues of mail-in voting. This guy is just automated now to take any position that undermines Trump.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 21, 2020 05:43 PM (H8QX

He always was

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 21, 2020 06:12 PM (85Gof)

604 So Rice was "memorializing" in her CYA e-mail, weeks after that meeting, a conversation that Rice
...............

let's also savor what it meant to the Obama DOJ to do things by the book:

1. hide flynn 302
2. rewrite flynn 302
3. interview flynn without saying it's a criminal matter
4. interview flynn without contacting White House counsel
5. rewriting unmasking rules
6. FISA warrants on everyone in Trump world

and on and on

Posted by: guest myspace user at May 21, 2020 06:14 PM (aZkKl)

605 >>> He will have every Democrat-donating lawyer in America helping him write his reply.

Something about excessive cooks and bad soup.

They will all want their say, but they will need quite the editor.

Posted by: fluffy at May 21, 2020 06:16 PM (FgJKq)

606 and on and on
________________

Sure, because when Rice fabricated the Obama line about how they were supposed to do all their illegal domestic spying "by the book," she didn't mention that "the book" they were using was Rules for Radicals.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 21, 2020 06:16 PM (k4dH2)

607
Andrew Cuomo @NYGovCuomo
Do your part. Show respect. Wear a mask.


Kurt Schlichter @KurtSchlichter
9h
How about you I show you my ass and you kiss it?

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 21, 2020 06:17 PM (eNnz+)

608 So, wait....does this mean that if someone enters a plea of not guilty but turns out he is guilty, that"s perjury?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 21, 2020 05:24 PM (QzF6i)




Whoa!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 21, 2020 06:17 PM (yQpMk)

609 I'm sure it's been said but I'm gonna say it again, any government that can make you wear a mask can make you wear a yellow star.

Posted by: Eromero at May 21, 2020 06:20 PM (XhWtx)

610 >>> He will have every Democrat-donating lawyer in America helping him write his reply.
_______________

It won't matter since there is a case directly on point, and the appeals court panel that is going to be considering the writ cited that very same case (Fokker Services), and ONLY that case, in their order to Sullivan.

Sullivan is going to have to grant the government's motion to dismiss the Flynn case, no matter how much he'd prefer not to.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 21, 2020 06:21 PM (k4dH2)

611 Match head flaming skull! This has been around for a while but I just stumbled across it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbuchlcOzt0

Posted by: jollyr at May 21, 2020 06:28 PM (CdoY0)

612 Amicus, animus, whatever.

Posted by: klaftern at May 21, 2020 06:30 PM (RuIsu)

613 @579 The really famous comparison is Thomas ("You Can't Go Home Again" not Tom) Wolfe to Mickey Spillane. Wolfe comes off pretty weak. The critic? Ayn Rand.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at May 21, 2020 06:35 PM (8IOEj)

614 @77mhttps://tinyurl.com/y9mcwhhj
Posted by: pep at May 21, 2020 04:55 PM (T6t7i)

I'm trying to catch up. This article is good but it leaves out important details such as Flynn's New position in the Trump administration as DNI(I might have put the wrong dept). This is why it's confounding to us ordinary folk. When they skip what his new position was and that is NORMAL AND EXPECTED to speak to foreign dignitaries in that position it makes it look like Flynn was a rogue and that the Russian ''interference" was real, but that's not the case at all.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at May 21, 2020 06:36 PM (Xt7n2)

615 I could happily fuck Sydney Powell right now.

Posted by: Getcha Pull at May 21, 2020 06:52 PM (aR6C/)

616 Been away. Anyone know if Trump wore a mask at that MI auto plant/ (I sincerely hope not!)

Posted by: Empire1 at May 21, 2020 07:09 PM (L+CKA)

617 Hell no The BOSS did not where a mask! Pdhhhh. Mask are fer homos

Posted by: Getcha Pull at May 21, 2020 07:11 PM (aR6C/)

618
Obama's "leaked" complaint about Flynn getting off scot free was a directive to the judge:

'you'd better get him or Hillary will have you Arkancided'

Posted by: Sphynx at May 21, 2020 07:28 PM (rXie1)

619 I'm wondering if Rmoney doesn't have a thing for bathhouses.

Something is off about the guy.

Posted by: torabora at May 21, 2020 07:33 PM (Y274z)

620 I think a Petition for a Writ of Mandamus is typically dismissed out of hand. The fact that the court is asking the judge to explain himself is a very good sign for LTG Flynn. At least the appeals court isn't allowing the judge to continue to run amok for now.

Posted by: The Amazing Mystico at May 21, 2020 07:39 PM (LoFQJ)

621 Yay! BBQ pudding!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 21, 2020 08:15 PM (e1mEI)

622 After being banned by Patterico, ShipWreckedCrew should be running victory laps, as nearly every prediction, every take he had re: the BS Russian Collusion... to cut to the chase, every horseschiff take vicious NeverTrumper Patterico has pontificated about has been proven wrong.

Posted by: Iman at May 21, 2020 09:36 PM (Y8JQ4)

623 #MeetTheFokkers!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 21, 2020 09:53 PM (Ndje9)

624 This doesn't look good Cuomo, Murphy, and Wolf--Heroes of the Left.

Posted by: Kurtz at May 22, 2020 07:24 AM (h+6I8)

625 Fokker was also a case petitioning for a writ of mandamus. The court ruled that the judge had no authority to refuse to enter the deferred plea agreement recommended by the prosecutor and the defendant. The judge's questions regarding the prosecutor's charging decisions were irrelevant.

Posted by: Nikola's Notion at May 22, 2020 01:38 PM (hrHLc)

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Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat